Illinois House Floor Debate — January 12, 2021

"The House will be in order. Members will be in their chairs. We shall be led in prayer today by Wayne Padget, the Assistant Doorkeeper. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off all cell phones, and rise for the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance. Wayne Padget."

Speaker Manley: "We shall be led in the Pledge today by Representative Haas."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Leader Harris is recognized to report any excused absences on the Democratic side of the aisle."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. We have Representatives Connor and Andrade who are excused today."

"Leader Spain is recognized to report any excused absences on the Republican side of the… I'm sorry. Oh, hi, Leader Demmer. How about you? Will you give us the report? Thank you." 10100103.docx 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Thank you. Have all recorded themselves who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There being 115 Members answering the roll call, a quorum is present. Mr. Clerk, Committee Reports."

"Chair recognizes Leader Durkin."

"Leader Durkin, thank you. I'm being told that your questions have been noted, and they are still under review, and we'll get back to you soon."

"Thank you for your patience, Leader Durkin. I'm being told they will get back to you as soon as possible."

"Leader Durkin, I appreciate your patience."

"Chair recognizes Representative Bryant."

"Please proceed."

"Let us take a moment of silence. Thank you, Representative."

"Chair recognizes Representative Bailey. Welcome back."

"Please proceed."

"Good luck to you, Representative. The Chair recognizes Representative Morgan."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. A point of personal privilege, please."

"Please proceed."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, I rise today on behalf of the Jewish Caucus. We're an informal group here in the General Assembly, in the House. But it's important that I rise today and address an issue and the events that recently happened because country… the country has been through a lot in the last week. The entire country. We mourn… we mourn the tragic life… loss of life of 2 U.S. Capitol Police Officers. We take a deep breath and thank God that the attempted coup was unsuccessful on January 6, but we will never be the same as a nation. We must ensure that this attack 10100103.docx 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 on the heart of our democracy is met with clear repudiation, an unambiguous message that those responsible and those that directly incited that mob are held accountable. We must make sure that this never happens again. Never again. Those are sacred words to the Jewish community, obviously, because of the 11 million who were killed during the Holocaust. Those are sacred words to me because my great-grandparents were killed in the Holocaust at the Treblinka concentration camp. They're sacred. So, I am furious that a Member of the Illinois Congressional Delegation thought it was appropriate to quote Adolf Hitler at a political rally. I'm furious that anyone would ever think that would be okay. I'm also livid that there is a Member of this chamber who was on Facebook rallying against 'dangerous democratic terrorist' and remarking that we are in a great cultural war to see which world view will survive. Just minutes before rally goers crushed a police officer to death and the countless other law enforcement officers. We talk a lot in this chamber about blue lives matter, hear that a little bit more from our friends on the other side of aisle. Where's your outrage now? Where is the humanity? Where's the shame? I haven't heard anything. These events, to me, underscore the importance of what we are literally, literally here to do today. Making sure, like we just said in the Pledge of Allegiance, that we have justice for all. Justice for all. Justice for all requires police reform and accountability. Justice for all requires equity in our government's services. It requires education that is color blind. It requires health care that eliminates the death gap from one zip code of white constituents to a nearby zip 10100103.docx 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 code with black residents. Our actions here today, right now, right now, are the best way to honor those who defended all of our freedom in Washington, D.C. less than a week ago. The phrase never forget is meaningless unless we take action to defend it and to show that it means something, and it means something to this Body, and it means something to the country. So with that, I ask for a moment of silence in honor of those lives lost and a moment of reflection about what we can do here for the rest of the 101st General Assembly to honor that and to honor justice for all. Thank you."

"The Body will take a moment of silence. Thank you, Representative. The Chair recognizes Leader Butler."

"Thank you, Representative. Chair recognizes Representative Jones."

"I rise for a point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed."

"I stand before you embarrassed and kind of like I let my colleagues down and I let a family down. You know, two years ago, many of you supported me in passing House Bill 331, which we call the Tamara Clayton Act, where a postal worker was shot in the head and killed on I-57. We passed that Bill to allow the State Police to put up cameras and use it as a tool to catch people who are shooting on our expressways and using our expressways for their criminal activity and killing 10100103.docx 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 families and taking lives. And I told each and every one of you then that in 2018 that there were a hundred twenty-eight shootings on the expressways. A hundred twenty-eight shootings on the expressways. That was 2018. 2019, there was a hundred sixty-eight shootings on the expressways. It went up. In 2020, during a pandemic, there were a hundred twenty- eight shootings again on our expressways, and twenty of them resulted in people dying on our expressways. And yet, IDOT is doing nothing about it. I had a conversation with the Governor a month ago and asked him to take action because our expressways are being used and people are dying on our expressways. And the Governor… the Governor committed that he was going to do something about it. He was going to push IDOT to do more. He was going to push the State Police to do more. The State Police, they have done more. And the Governor promised me that it was going to get resolved. Well, here we are, January 12, 2021, and nothing has been done. In 2021, there have been three shootings on our expressways again this year, and we're just twelve days into a new year. So, how much are we going to take and how long are we going ask the Governor to keep on letting this go on and using our expressways for criminals to shoot and kill families? So, today, I am going to ask the Governor to either have IDOT do something about it or have the director of IDOT resign. Enough is enough. All the State Police ask for is money and put the cameras on the expressways as a tool to catch these people. And you'd be amazed that out of all of those shootings on the expressways, the State Police, they've only caught maybe ten percent of those who have shot and killed families that we 10100103.docx 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 know. Now, many of you saw, when I brought Tamara Clayton down and her family, you saw the hurt of her sister when she sat in our chambers. That murder is still unsolved. And yet, we still have murder and shooting after shooting on our expressways, and we can't allow anymore to go on. So, I ask you today that you join me in calling the Governor and urging IDOT to do something today to finish this. We gave them the money to fix this and put the cameras. We're not asking them to reveal the locations, but we're asking them to do something about it today. This has gone on for too long. I've stayed silent for too long. I tried to be patient, but many of you, a hundred and eighteen of us, voted 'yes' for this Bill, for this family. And it's time that the Governor tells IDOT to get off of their butts and do this today. This has gone on long enough, and I plan on standing on this House Floor until they do it and get the job done. It's not about saving the money in the road fund because that money was there that we appropriated. So, I ask my colleagues for their indulgence. Please take your time today and call the Governor's Office, call IDOT and tell them we want to make sure that they do everything that they can to make sure that the Bill we passed, House Bill 331, gets done and the cameras get on these expressways. I hate to stand up here at the end the year and say that we had another a hundred and twenty-eight more shootings on our expressways. So, thank you, Madam Speaker. Thank you for your indulgence. And I appreciate the Body's time."

"Thank you, Representative. Chair recognizes Representative Mason." 10100103.docx 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Thank you. This morning, many of us heard that my Congressman, Congressman Brad Schneider of Illinois' 10th District, has tested positive for COVID. I've been in touch with him, and he's feeling well. But I would like to ask this Body to keep him in his thoughts and his family as well as the other Congressmen and women who have also tested positive recently."

"Thank you, Representative. Chair recognizes Representative Ammons."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Point of personal privilege, please."

"Please proceed."

"Thank you. Each September 11, we're all reminded of the terrible experience that this country witnessed at the attack on the Twin Towers. And each September 11, we commemorate those lives that were lost in that terrorist act. And the accountability measures that our government took to address the attack our democracy in 9/11 was not a minimal response. In this case, as we stand in solidarity with my Jewish colleagues, we also want to remind others that the T-shirts of swastikas come along with nooses hanging from our Capitol that sends African Americans into a experience of great pain, discomfort, and harm. And yet, the response that we've heard from that attack on the Capitol has been minimal, justifications, inciting language from this Body, from Members on this floor who called us Democratic terrorists. And that the accountability measures that they are receiving, those who've been arrested, some of them are being charged with things like trespassing. They didn't show up for a 10100103.docx 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 friendly rally. They showed up with the intent to do the harm that they read about in The Turner Diaries that many of you probably have copies of. The Turner Diaries are literally lain bare right before us and the exercises that we witnessed are written in The Turner Diaries of 1973. And so, we don't want to pretend that the attacks were innocent rallies and that people are just upset 'cause they lost an election. This has been written. The extreme actions that were taken by many of those who showed up for that rally with pipe bombs, restraints, weapons, armed, some unarmed. As we watched them bang on the windows to break into the Capitol with everything from a hat that they had in their hands, and sticks, and bottles. That is not a rally. That's an attack. So, we who have been the victim of that kind of terrorism for hundreds of years recognize these actions. And we do call on our Republican colleagues to not just say how bad that was but to actually take action because there's a threat that is on this Capitol, in this state, that is allegedly supposed to happen within the next few days. So, that's not a small task or a small measure. So, I ask all of us to reach out to our Congressional Delegation and ask them to hold accountable the Republican Members who fed this attack and who encouraged this rally and this vicious attack on the U.S. Capitol and the democracy. It's alarming. It also took the lives of several people in our country. So, as we, African Americans, are fighting for the humanity of regular black people driving, walking, biking, eating, talking, whose lives have been taken at the hands of the police, many of whom are members of these national organizations, many of whom that we have documented 10100103.docx 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 are right-wing conspirators and who take it out on the black community across this state and other states, which is why we have seen the number of deaths. Last year, 1,619 African American men, primarily, were killed at the hands of the police. This is why we're asking for qualified immunity because we have watched our generations snuffed out for the most insignificant of reasons. So, today, we are not just standing up with our Jewish colleagues. We're standing up for the humanity of all American citizens. And it is our obligation and duty. It is our obligation and duty sometimes to push back on those who don't want that type of accountability. The reason why we are still here a hundred and something years after the civil war is because we've not dealt with the underlying issue. W.B. Du Bois wrote In Souls of Black Folks that the problem of the 21st century is the problem of the color line. And we are still trying to address that problem. So, to my colleagues on the right and the left, don't pretend that you don't know what qualified immunity really is for. It is to shield the conduct of those who have been shielded for hundreds of years for lynching, murdering, raping, robbing black people in this country. And we cannot, at this moment, be dissuade from dealing with this issue. And so, when it comes your turn to think about what your vote will be on this matter, you think about the lynch ropes they hung from the Capitol. They don't intend to have a conversation with us. They came there to inflict harm and pain on this country and on those that they find in The Turner Diaries to be exceptionally outside of American citizenship. 10100103.docx 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 And so, it is time for us to act, and I call on this Body to do so. Thank you very much, Madam Speaker."

"Appreciate you, Representative. We're proceeding to the Order of House Bills on Second Reading. House Bill… excuse me, Senate Bill 1480. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Harper to explain the Amendment."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to adopt House Amendment 2 and House Amendment 3 and discuss it on Third Reading."

"Representative Harper moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment 2 and 3. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"Representative Harper, you wish to move… we need to do Amendment 3 now. Want to explain it on Third? Wish to adopt the Amendment?"

"Yes."

"Representative Harper moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment 3. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendment, Mr. Clerk?" 10100103.docx 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"I move that the notes be ruled inapplicable."

Speaker Manley: "Hold on one second, Representative. Representative Harper moves that the notes be held inapplicable. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the notes are ruled inapplicable. My apologies. This is going to be a recorded vote. Representative Harper moves that the notes be help inapplicable. All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. With 70 voting 'yes', 43 voting 'no', the Motion carries. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Harper."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Senate Bill 1480 is package number two of four of the Illinois Legislative Black Caucus' Economic Access, Opportunity, and Equity Pillar as part of the Black Caucus' agenda to stop systemic racism. I'd like to thank my colleagues for their support last night and going forward as we seek to pass the remainder of this pillar today. This particular section of the… or Bill is ensuring fair wages by ending wage disparities for black women, men, as well as 10100103.docx 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 people with records. It includes, specifically, conviction records protections. It includes a measure around an equal pay registration certificate. And it also has the business corporation annual EEOC reporting measure. I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Just to let everybody know, we're going to be using a four minute timer on debate. Chair recognizes Representative Batinick. For what reason do you seek recognition?"

"She indicates that she will yield."

"Sure. So, our measure relating to the Illinois Human Rights Act, Conviction Record Protection, it's an Amendment to the Illinois Human Rights Act that makes it a civil rights violation to take adverse action against an employee on the basis of a conviction record unless there is substantial relationship between the criminal offenses and the position or granting of employment would involve an unreasonable risk to property or safety of individual of the general public."

"I'm glad you asked. The definition is in the Bill. It's not going to drive employers out of Illinois. It's simply asking that they go through a process when they're considering a person's criminal record or convictions during employment."

"So, there's a definition for substantial relationship on page 7, starting on line 9. And it says, 'Substantial relationship means a consideration of whether the employment position offers the opportunity for the same or a similar offense to occur and whether the circumstances leading to the conduct for which the person was convicted will recur in the employment position.'"

"What was the question?"

"Recur in the employment position." 10100103.docx 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"This language was negotiated. We negotiated this language."

"From direct relationship to substantial relationship."

"This Bill is not about pleasing employers. It's not about driving jobs out of the state. It's about… it's about 10100103.docx 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 preventing discrimination based on whether or not you have a criminal record. Fifty-five percent of people in Illinois have a criminal record. And people with criminal legal system involvement are half as likely to receive offers of employment or interviews than individuals who don't have a record. And the reason why this is such a very important part of the Black Caucus' agenda, the reason why Representative West has been carrying this Bill and I've carried this Bill in the past, is because this hiring disparity is twice the size for black applicants as it is for white applicants. And so, while maybe in your district people with a record don't have a problem getting a job, well that's because in our district, in our black communities, the hiring disparity is twice the size for black people. So, black people with records can't get a job, whereas, white people with records can get jobs at higher rates than black people who don't have records at all. And we have plenty of numbers that say this. So, again, this Bill is not based on helping the employers. I can't tell you which one of them supports it. I can tell you that Cabrini Green Legal Aid supports this Bill 'cause they've been working to pass it for so long. I can tell you that Community Renewal Society supports this Bill. I can tell you that the Illinois Department of Human Rights supports this Bill. And that's enough support that Members of the Black Caucus need to be part of this agenda."

"Chair recognizes Leader Wheeler."

"She will yield." 10100103.docx 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"This Bill does not take away any employer protections that are under current law."

"And they're protected if they follow the process."

"I'm sorry, can you clarify that for me?"

"Will you be in violation of what, so to speak?"

"No, you would not."

"Yes, correct."

"Thank you."

"The Chair recognizes Leader Durkin."

"She will."

"I talked with the Department of Labor, Department of Human Rights, Cabrini Green Legal Aid, and the Rocky Coalition, Illinois Chamber of Commerce…"

"…and all the input from my colleagues over the past four or five days."

"No."

"I think it's fair to say that we've had multiple discussions with the chamber about this Bill."

"No." 10100103.docx 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"That… I would like to clarify… I will say that's not the primary focus of the Bill as the Representative insinuated."

"This Bill actually does help employers by providing standards for them to consider conviction records in an individual's background. Right. So, it's clear for them."

"I clarify… Representative…"

"…I clarified my statement, and I just clarified it here."

"And we can leave it at that and keep it moving."

"Correct." 10100103.docx 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"The law already addressed arrest records and hiring."

"Correct."

"Okay, I understand what you're saying. But in that situation, a employer could still determine that granting or the continuation of the employment would involve an unreasonable risk to property or to the safety or welfare of the specific individuals or the general public."

"I disagree."

"I feel like I've already explained myself."

"Chair recognizes Representative Mazzochi."

"She indicates that she will."

"We did not work with the Governor's Office per se, but we worked with the Department of Human Rights." 10100103.docx 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"And they were happy to work with us to do so."

"No."

"I think with all of the feedback that I've been getting from everybody about the Bill, and DCEO has contacted me about several other Bills, they have not contacted me about this one, which leads me to believe that they don't have an issue with it."

"Well, Sonya Harper, the Chairman of the House Economic Opportunity & Equity, approves of this Bill."

"Representative, I just got word, I'd like to clarify for you that we in fact did work with the Governor's Office on this Bill."

"No. I haven't… I haven't asked him that."

"Are you referring to tourism type organizations?"

"I got you. It just sounded like, Choose Chicago, that's a tourism focused organization. So, that's why I asked."

"None of them have reached out to me, Representative."

"It could be anything from any statute in the Criminal Code."

"Representative Mazzochi, can you bring your questioning to… is that… Representative Reick will give you his time. Please proceed."

"Representative, can you repeat your question?"

"Juvenile records."

"DCFS investigations."

"We're going to look into that."

"I'm sorry, Representative. Can you repeat that?"

"If she discriminates."

"Yes."

"No."

"I'm only making it so that they can't discriminate."

"Representative Mazzochi."

"Representative Haas will give you his time."

"I just… I disagree with you, Representative."

"IDHR has rulemaking authority."

"To act is to make decisions about recruitment… about recruitment. And as I said, IDHR has rulemaking authority to make any other clarifications that are needed as it relates to this provision."

"Please repeat the question."

"No, that sounds like thinking. Or would be thinking."

"Those are determinations that IDHR can make."

"Representative, we don't know how a court would interpret. You are speculating."

"Well, that's not our legislative intent."

"I believe I made that very clear. Thank you."

"Representative Mazzochi… Representative Daugherty, will you like to give your time to Representative Mazzochi? Please continue, Representative."

"Potentially, yes."

"The employers will follow the process that is laid out in the statute and then they will apply their reasoning."

"Then they have a cause of action."

"You know, there's a… there's a case by case analysis for each situation that could arise."

Speaker Manley: "Representative Mazzochi. Representative Halbrook, would you like to extend your time?"

"Please continue, Representative Mazzochi."

"Yes."

"Yes."

"If it would require an unreasonable risk to property or to the safety or welfare of specific individuals or the general public, yes."

"Can you elaborate on that, please?"

"Could you define hostile work environment for me?"

"And an example of that would be to…"

"And if there's a substantial relationship between that conviction and the job sought…"

"No. No."

"You're making an insinuation about what I understand."

"It depends on the circumstances, Representative."

"It depends on if the granting of the employment would involve an unreasonable risk to the property or to the safety or welfare of specific individuals or the general public."

"Well, it depends on what they're a repeat offender of."

"It depends because the granting or continuation of the employment would have to involve an unreasonable risk to property or to the safety or welfare of specific individuals or the general public."

"It would depend, and that's why you would follow the process."

"Representative Mazzochi, I'm going to ask you to bring your comments to a close."

"Thank you." 10100103.docx 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Representative."

"Representative."

"Representative."

Speaker Manley: "Thank you. Chair recognizes Representative Tarver."

"Thank you, Madam Chair. Will the Sponsor yield? You got to love when people…"

"She indicates that she will."

"Yeah. You got to love when people preface things with minority hiring. We just hire individuals where I'm from. It's benefitted if the minorities are diverse, but people are clarifying they hire minorities, that tells you where the conversation's going to start. Sonya, I just want to make sure I understand a few things. There was some conversation about this whole substantial relationship thing. That's not something that's new in Illinois law, is it?"

"No."

"Okay. Because right now, if you are a convicted pedophile, let's say, right? You don't get to get a job in a school. Is that right?"

"Correct."

"So this, while it's landmark and important legislation, it's not necessarily earth shattering in a sense that we've never had substantial relationship in statute. Is that right?"

"Correct."

"Okay. I just wanted to make sure. And then, there was a lot of conversation about the Bill being negotiated. Does negotiated mean that whoever you talk to agree with absolutely everything that you put into statute?"

"Nope."

"It means you had a conversation with them, right?" 10100103.docx 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"That's right."

"Okay. I just wanted to make sure my definition of negotiation was still okay. Is it a prerequisite that the Illinois Chamber of Commerce agree with the Bill for us to file it?"

"No, Representative."

"For us to move it?"

"No."

"Okay. And has it been your experience that the Illinois Chamber of Commerce has been this bastion of being supportive of important issues in the black community?"

"No."

"Okay. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything. You know what, to the Bill. Again, when we have individuals who are telling black people how to advocate for black people and patting themselves on the back because they do minority hiring, we have an issue. I think Representative Mazzochi's entire line of question demonstrates the need for a Bill like this. I really do. And it's offensive and… you talk about having training. There needs to be some more diversity training because it's incredibly offensive to tell somebody what's best for them. That's what people have been doing for a long period of time. So, now we have a Bill that we think is best for our community but not only our community. The reason why there's a highlight for us is because we get arrested at disproportionate rates. We get convicted at disproportionate rates. We end up right back in the same neighborhood with less opportunities when we get out of jail and/or prison. So, we need a Bill like this. I want to commend 10100103.docx 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 you, Sonya, for all of your hard work, including putting up with ridiculous lines question and patronizing language in order to get this thing across the finish line. I will be looking forward to voting 'yes'. And I just want to let you know, because people love to say, 'I'm a lawyer. I'm a business owner.' So, am I, and I support it. And the last quick thing, it's very interesting when people talk about job creators, job creators, job creators. Do you have a definition of job creator? I didn't hear a definition of that, right? So, I just want to say thank you again. If you need any help from me on this or any other Bills, I'd be happy to do it. And people want to pat themselves on the back for being a lawyer or a business owner or helping the minorities, have a seat. I don't care how many times somebody yields you your time, you're going to still sound like an idiot. Thank you."

"Couple of housekeeping items. If you're not eating or drinking, will you please put your masks on? If you're not eating or drinking, please… over your mouth and nose. Thank you. Also, once you've spoken, please turn your speak light off. We don't have that ability up here and we've got lots and lots of people waiting to speak. With that, the Chair recognizes Representative Ugaste."

"She indicates that she will."

"I'm good."

"So, you're saying if the job applicant lies about their criminal records?"

"Let me clarify that for you."

"I think that we would rely on the Department of Human Rights to interpret that because, at that point, it's not so much about the conviction as it is about the lie."

"So, our intent is that if someone lies about their conviction the employer would not be in violation of this law."

"That's correct." 10100103.docx 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Well, the current laws are not enough. The Census Bureau data tells us that women are still paid 82 cents on the dollar for what men make on average, and it's even worse among women of color. Latino women make 54 cents on the dollar, Native American women make 57 cents, and black women make 62. So, those gaps have major implications for women's economic issues and their success and their long-term earning potential. So, we need to flip the way that those disparities are being addressed. Companies, they need to be proactive if the wage gap is ever going to be fixed. And that's what we're trying to do in this measure."

"No, this one's private."

"Yes, Sir."

"Representative."

"Representative Butler would like to give you his time."

"Please continue."

"Okay. All right, what's your question, Rep?"

"It doesn't say here, but it's for the last calendar year."

"Well, that is my legislative intent. And, if that needs to be, I'm happy to add it."

"I see what you're saying, Representative, and I'm happy to discuss that further with you. It's based on gross profits, which I believe is before they make distributions to shareholders. The percentage versus net profits."

"A reminder to everybody, turn your lights off once you've spoke… spoken. Thank you. We've got a lot of people waiting to speak. Chair recognizes Representative Cassidy."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Question of the Sponsor."

"She will answer your questions. Go ahead."

"All right. We've touched on this a little bit, but I want to be explicit. In the earlier exchange about the 10100103.docx 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 negotiation process for this Bill, you were essentially accused of lying about negotiating this Bill with some organizations. That's how I interpreted that line of questioning. So, I want to ask a really simple question, which is, in your interactions with the chamber, were there asks made by them?"

"Yes."

"And were some of those accepted? In other words, there are two things in the Bill that…"

"Yes. We took some of their…"

"…reflect to their desires."

"We took some of their recommendations."

"Yeah, we took some of their recommendations, and we didn't take some others. Were there organizations from our side of the aisle, if you will, or from our usual allies that asked for things that didn't get into this Bill?"

"Definitely."

"That's what I figured because negotiation isn't capitulation, right? You would agree those are different things?"

"That's right. We… we negotiated a substantial amount from this Bill. It had a lot more in it and, over the years, it just wasn't negotiated for this Black Caucus agenda. We have been negotiating this Bill over several General Assemblies. So, there has been lots of talks around this legislation. It is not new."

"So, just like the other pillars, it frequently includes things that have been in process for many, many years. I know that in Representative Slaughter's criminal Bill, it actually 10100103.docx 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 includes some legislation that I've carried over the years, that you have carried over the years. We've married these up."

"Exactly, Representative."

"So, this is not the first time we're talking about pretty much any of this."

"You're correct."

"Thank you. To the Bill. I feel like I have fallen into an episode of hypotheticals gone wild with all of these various nightmare scenarios looking for a way to make this Bill the bogeyman. Again, we are at a critical point in our history. We have generations of errors and injustices to correct for, and we're just getting started. It is time to pass this Bill now. Thank you."

"Thank you, Representative. The Chair recognizes Representative Murphy. Representative Murphy. Don't run. You're good."

"She indicates that she will."

"No."

"Thank you, Representative. Chair recognizes Representative Morrison."

Speaker Manley: "Chair… Chair recognizes Representative McCombie."

"She indicates that she will."

"Can you explain it to me, Representative?"

"Yes, Representative. I actually had a couple of Bills in the past General Assemblies giving tax credits to people who hire people with records. So… and we've had… many caucus Members have worked on this issue in the past. So, this… that is an area that we have explored. We found that it's an option that is not very popular, especially in our districts. But, yes, we are open to exploring all options as it relates to expanding benefits, expanding employment opportunities for all people, but especially people who have been caught up in this system of mass incarceration that's leading a detrimental economic impact on generations in our black communities. And so, that's the real cause of…"

"…of what we're trying to get to in this Bill today."

"I'm sorry. Can you clarify? What did I say wasn't good for my district?"

"Oh, you're… you're saying in place of. You're saying I should do the tax credit idea instead of this Bill? That that would…" 10100103.docx 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"I'm telling you, yes, Representative. I have filed Bills that have done just that."

"Yes."

"Yeah. They have… it passed. To be honest, we have laws on the books that already give tax credits to companies who hire ex… we, in the State of Illinois, we do. What we need to do is do a study to see how many people are actually taking advantage, how many companies have actually taken on those tax credits, and how many people have gotten jobs as a result of that to see if that problem is being effective, see if that program is being effective."

"Yeah."

"So, here's the other thing, too. We pass so many laws on all of these subjects all the time. And it could be maybe that it's in statute, but it's just not being implemented. You're right. So, I can't point to the particular program. I can ask staff about it for you."

"Yes, Ma'am."

Speaker Manley: "Chair recognizes Representative Windhorst. Where'd he go? There you go."

"No."

"That's not current law. So, I can't speak to that. I'm not the expert on that…"

"Okay, thank you. We'll definitely take a look at that."

"We can continue."

"No, I'm not pulling the Bill from the record."

"But I can continue to take a look at clarifying those things further in the 102nd General Assembly. And if that's something you would like to help me, I'd love to talk about it and continue the conversation."

"I agree, definitely. Yes."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Chair recognizes Representative West."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. To the Bill. I'm excited to be one of the co… the chief Sponsors to this Bill. I'm not a lawyer. I'm not a business owner. But I an expert in workforce development and career development. And in all my time of working people to find jobs and working with people to prepare themselves to get jobs, the biggest issue I've seen… and the majority of those people are not just students, like 20, 23, 24. These are people in our age brackets, 30s, 40s, 50s, who find themselves still not able to get a job based on something that happened when they were 17, 18, 19. We call that what? Being young and dumb. I don't know if Abraham Lincoln said that… said this but one of my favorite movies is Lincoln. And 10100103.docx 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 it says in that movie if you can look through the seeds of time, and tell me which grain will grow and which one will not, speak then to me. All these hypotheticals that has no specifics to it. All these hypotheticals of what if, what if, without really appreciating that it could be case by case. We have to come to the… we're here to help you understand where the Black Caucus is coming from. Where black people… not just black people, not just brown people, but a lot of people, even white people, where they find themselves because of something that even small, even if it's an arrest, something that they did that is keeping them from doing even the most… even the most acceptable of jobs working at one of my favorite fast food joints, Beefaroo in Rockford. And so, what this Bill… this Bill is not a slap on the wrist to our employers. This Bill is not trying to take away protections from our employers. It's trying to make… give it a fair shake, empower even those who went through the penal system where they were supposed to do the most foundational thing. The most foundational principal behind our criminal justice is rehabilitation. And then they come out, and they're still being penalized for something that they did years, decades ago. And so, I can… a lot of us, we understand your questions, though hypothetical, but please understand that this helps our state putting more people to work. If the job specifically affects… if the background of the individual specifically affects the job itself, the property, or the protection of those in your workforce, you have the right to not hire them. Going based on hypotheticals is not… it's what kept people down. What if this is why people are still… still have their 10100103.docx 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 face to the ground. What about this, is still keeping people with… that has no bootstrap… boots. How can we lift ourselves from the bootstrap when we only operate on hypotheticals? So, please understand… and you… my Republican colleagues, you know I don't really do this. You know I really don't look at y'all and talk to y'all. I've gained that rapport with a lot of you. But please understand that this Bill is to help everyone. And like it was said earlier, rising tides lift all boats. This Bill is to help everyone and anyone. And if the crime… if the crime fits, then you don't have to hire them. If the criminal background fits, then you don't have to hire them. And so, I want to thank Representative Harper for all the work you've done. I want to thank the entire Black Caucus for the work you've done. To the stakeholders that helped us with this Bill, I want to thank you as well, because this Bill is to help our communities, every single one of our communities. And the… so that we can ensure that we have more taxpayers who are working…"

"Representative, Representative Carroll will give you his time."

"Thank you. Thank you, Sir. So that we have more taxpayers who are working and who are too busy making money and understanding their worth to be… to do things that are criminal. I think we can all agree that a lot of crimes that people commit are not of ill intent. A lot of it is out of desperation. A lot of it is out of support for their families, doing what they can because they can't find that job or that… can't get hired because of this one little thing that they did that has nothing to do with driving a bus, that has 10100103.docx 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 nothing to do with flipping burgers even. Now, those are the smaller jobs I'm talking about. So, you still… there's still protections in place for our employers, and Representative Harper has been explaining that. And Representative Harper has been explained that. So, Madam Speaker, I move to call the question… the previous question."

"Representative, your Motion's out of order. We are now moving to the last speaker. Chair recognizes Representative Davidsmeyer."

"Yes."

"The answer to your question is 60."

"Representative Harper to close."

"I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1480 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 70 voting in 'favor', 43 voting 'against'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed."

"Davis in the Chair. On the Order of Second Reading, there is Senate Bill 1980, Representative Harper. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Harper on Floor Amendment #2." 10100103.docx 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the General Assembly. I would like to adopt House Amendment 2 and discuss it on Third Reading."

"Representative Harper moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any additional Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"Representative Harper on the notes."

"I move that the notes be ruled inapplicable."

"Representative Harper moves that the notes be made inapplicable. Representative Batinick."

"So, Representative Harper moves that the notes be made inapplicable. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the notes are ruled inapplicable. Anything else, Mr. Clerk?"

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Harper."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the General Assembly. I'm pleased to present before you Senate Bill 1980 10100103.docx 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 as package number three of four of the Legislative Black Caucus' Economic Access, Opportunity, and Equity Pillar as part of the Black Caucus' agenda to stop systemic racism. This section here deals with several different measures. We're talking about property tax redemption in this measure. We are improving housing access for those with criminal records. And I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Thank you very much, Representative Harper. Representative Thapedi, for what reason do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, I move that this matter be put on Short Debate. And I think there's at least seven other Members that would agree with me on that."

"It's already on Short Debate."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I see it says Floor Amendments, and it should be a two, for Short Debate if I… if I'm reading the rules correctly."

"Okay, Representative. It… Calendar indicates that it will be on Short Debate. So, we will… it is on Short Debate."

"All right, and that'll be a two-minute presentation by the principal Sponsor and then two by a Member in response. One minute by the principal to close, or yield to other Members, provided at the request of seven Members before the close of debate, the debate status shall be open to Standard Debate. And I think that there's… I hope my Motion is in order. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. It will be on Short Debate, as indicated. Representative Batinick, for what reason do you rise?" 10100103.docx 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"The Chair…"

"Representative Thapedi."

"Okay. So…"

"But what does… what does that mean in English? I don't…"

"Five or ten minute…"

"…for the entire time for the debate on…"

"Okay. Well, I'll take you at your word, Mr. Batinick."

"You're a scholar and a gentleman. So, if you're telling me that this debate is going to last no longer than 5 to 10 minutes on the entire legislative measure, I'll withdraw my Motion. How does that work for you?"

"Okay. So, Representative Thapedi withdraws his Motion. The Calendar indicates that the Bill will be on Short Debate. So, we will go back to the four minute timer, Representative Batinick?"

"Oh, for unlimited debate. Oh, I'm sorry."

"I'm sorry. Standard Debate."

"I apologize."

"All right. So, the Bill will be placed on Standard Debate. But as you've indicated, it won't be a very long debate."

"So, with that reason, for what reason do you rise then, Representative Batinick?"

"She indicates she'll yield."

"That is correct."

"The $80 is referring to the indemnity fee paid by tax purchasers for a certificate of purchase."

Speaker Davis: "Thank you, Representative Batinick. Representative Evans, for what reason do you rise? Representative Evans, your light is flashing. Okay. We'll come back. Oh, it's off now. Representative Wheeler, for what reason do you rise?"

"She indicates she'll yield."

"Yes, Sir."

"Correct."

"Can you please repeat that?" 10100103.docx 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"No. It's public housing."

"Thank you."

Speaker Davis: "Thank you very much, Representative. Representative Ford, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Inquiry of the Chair."

"State your inquiry."

"Mr. Speaker, will you promise to give this Bill it's just due and give it a 'ding' when you call for the vote?"

"Absolutely."

"Thank you."

"Representative Evans, are you not wanting to speak? He is the last speaker if that what he's… okay. Representative Evans does not wish to speak. That being said, Representative Harper to close."

"I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1980 pass?' All those in favor vote 'yes'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Ding. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? As they are scurrying back to their tablets. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 113 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and no one voting 'present', this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Williams, for what… Ann Williams, for what reason do you rise?" 10100103.docx 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 Williams, A.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just a quick comment."

"Please state your comment." Williams, A.: "One of our new Members, Representative-Elect Wang Stoneback, pointed out to me the following information that's a bit sobering. The average number of new cases of COVID in Illinois was 690… 6,999 cases yesterday. About the same as it was the day before. Since January of last year, at least 1 in 12 people who live in Illinois have been infected, and that's higher that the national average. In addition, 1 in 654 have died. These statistics are shocking and a reminder that with everything going on here we still have to remember what's happening out in the world at large, and it's very scary, and it's very dangerous. And on that note, COVID testing is available in the basement. And the people administering the tests are pointing out, they've only been visited by 10, 15, 20 people a day. They have much more capacity than that. So, please join me for a daily COVID test. It's a lot fun. It's easy, not too painful, and just stay safe."

"Mr. Clerk, on the Order of Second Reading is Senate Bill 1792. Mr. Clerk, what's the status of that Bill?"

"Representative Harper on Floor Amendment #3."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to adopt Floor Amendment 3 and discuss it on Third Reading."

"Representative, do you want to adopt both?" 10100103.docx 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Oh, sorry. Sure, yes. I'd like to adopt both."

"Oh, I'm sorry. I'm told they have to be done separately. So, on Floor Amendment #3… Floor Amendment #3 is offered by Representative Harper, have been approved for… oh, that's the Clerk's line. Sorry. Representative Harper moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #3. All those in favor vote 'yes'; all those opposed vote… excuse me, say 'yes'; all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'yeses' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"

"Representative Harper on Floor Amendment #4."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to adopt Floor Amendment #2… 4 to Senate Bill 1792."

Speaker Davis: "Thank you very much, Representative. Representative Harper moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #4. All those in favor say 'yes'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'yeses' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"Representative Harper."

"I'd like to move that the notes be ruled inapplicable."

"Representative Harper moves that the notes be ruled inapplicable. All those in favor say 'yes'; all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'yeses' 10100103.docx 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 have it. And the notes have been ruled inapplicable. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Harper, Senate Bill 1792."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the General Assembly. Senate Bill 1792 is package number four of four of the Legislative Black Caucus' Economic Access, Opportunity, and Equity Pillar as part of the Black Caucus' agenda to stop systemic racism. I'd like to thank my colleagues for their support thus far, and going forward, as we seek to pass the remainder of our pillar today. This section/Bill is ensuring industry specific equity, including a Cannabis Equity Commission, a disparity study for black farmers and the beauty supply industry, as well as the capping of predatory payday loans. I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Thapedi, for what reason do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, again, I move pursuant to Rule 52 for Short Debate. In the event that I can have a similar agreement as to the last one, I'm willing to withdraw my Motion. I do have the agreement to truncate the debate to… how much time, Mr. Batinick? Five to ten minutes. And I'll withdraw my Motion on that agreement, Mr. Speaker."

"Thank you very much, Representative. That being said, Representative Davidsmeyer, for what reason do you rise?" 10100103.docx 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"She indicates she'll yield."

"No, we don't have that information."

"Which measure are you referring to?"

"The Water Innovation Grant Program?"

"I believe you may be reading a previous version of the Bill, Representative. We have adopted Amendments that has taken out any references to water programs."

"Sure. So, we have a disparity study for black farmers, which requires the Department of Agriculture to conduct a study to determine the economic and other disparities associated with farm ownership and farm operations in the State of Illinois between black farmers and other socially disadvantaged farmers. We have a provision for the Cannabis Equity Commission, which creates a commission to ensure the equity goals in the CRTA are met. We also have a disparity study relating to the beauty supply industry, requiring DCEO to conduct a study to determine whether discrimination exists in the beauty supply industry and to provide recommendations 10100103.docx 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 for eliminating whatever barriers do exist there. And then, we also have the anti-predatory lending measure, which cuts the allowable annual percentage rates for loans, including payday loans, small consumer loans, and title secured loans at 36 percent."

"I've had many conversations along those lines with individuals."

"Yeah, they can… they can go to a number of other resources such as CDFIs, online lenders, banks, installment lenders. And like you said, family and friends."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Representative Ugaste, for what reason do you rise?"

"She indicates she'll yield. If you spoke already, can you please do us a favor of turning your light off? Your speak light off. Representative Harper, she'll yield."

"That is correct."

"It has to do with licensing and the Consumer Installment Loan Act to require certain lenders making loans where the annual interest rate is 9 percent or more to be licensed by IDFPR."

"To the Bill."

"Thank you, Representative. I look forward to working with you as well in the 102nd."

Speaker Davis: "Thank you, Representative. Representative Hammond, for what reason do you rise?"

"She indicates she will."

"So, yeah, we're defining the scope of farmer the same way that we defined the scope of farmer in the Farmer Equity Act that is now law. And so… well, I can't say it verbatim. It does include… it's not just urban agriculture, right?"

"It includes all farms…"

"…and all crops. So, yeah. That is the definition."

"Urban and rural, it includes all farmers. It does not discriminate. Yeah."

"You're welcome. Thank you."

"Seeing no others, Representative… I'm sorry. Representative Chesney, for what reason do you rise? I'm sorry."

"She indicates she'll yield."

"Yes."

"Thank you, Representative. That means a lot."

"Seeing no further debate, Representative Harper to close."

"I would like to thank every single person, every colleague who is in support of these pillars. They mean so much to Members of the Illinois Legislative Black Caucus, 10100103.docx 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 but, more importantly, they mean so much to the State of Illinois. I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1792 pass?' All in favor vote 'yes'; all those opposed vote 'no'. And the voting is open. Ding. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a vote of 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 2 voting 'present', this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Rules Report."

"Representative Spain, for what reason do you rise?"

"Okay. Have any timeline, Representative?"

"At least an hour? Okay. Thank you very much. The Republicans will caucus in the upstairs mezzanine. Democrats will not caucus at this moment, but that may change. So, please stay close. House stands at ease."

"Good afternoon, House Democrats. We will now go caucus in the basement. Democrats, go to caucus." 10100103.docx 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"It's already on Third Reading. Mr. Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 54 modernizes liquor delivery to home via platforms, online platforms. This is an agreement among WSDI, ABDI, Meier, along with the online platforms, and I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Batinick, I misspoke. That Bill was already on Third Reading. It was not on Second Reading."

"Yes, we are debating the Bill."

"All right. He indicates he'll yield."

"They're neutral on the substance of the Bill. What Miss D'Alessandro said was we've now done two Bills where craft brewers and craft distillers haven't been offered any relief. And we're cognizant of that. I think the Senate's going to send us, by the time this week is over, another Bill 10100103.docx 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 on hospitality. I don't know if that… I don't the status of that Bill, but within the four corners of this Bill the stakeholders asks that we leave the agreement as is and not add any additional language."

"Say that again. Say that again, Mark."

"No. What I'm told is the Senate is going to send over an additional Bill on liquor delivery… on liquor delivery, cocktails-to-go. We haven't… we're not in receipt of that Bill yet but…"

"As I understand it, the goal is to send it to us for the 101st."

"You're welcome."

"Representative Hoffman, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For the purposes of legislative intent, will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative Zalewski, is it your legislative intent, as Sponsor of the Bill, that nothing in the Amendatory Act of the 101st General Assembly authorizes any holder of a local liquor… retail liquor license, which simultaneously holds any 10100103.docx 80  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 license or privilege to manufacture alcohol, liquors within or outside the State of Illinois to ship alcoholic liquors to a consumer via common carrier or deliver alcoholic liquors to a consumer."

"Yes. That is my intent as the Bill Sponsor and as of my colleagues sponsoring the legislation in the other chamber. The goal of the legislation is to allow delivery of alcoholic liquors within the State of Illinois to provide economic support to holders of local retailer licenses but not local retailer licenses which simultaneously hold any license or privilege to manufacture alcoholic liquors."

"And is this legislation also intended to preserve the three-tiered system in Illinois in order to protect the public health, safety, and welfare of the citizens in the State of Illinois…"

"Yes. Ninth…"

"Oh, I'm sorry."

"…and to promote temperance?"

"Well, you know… I don't know about the temperance part. I'm kidding. Yes, it's to promote temperance. Yes, that's my intent as the Bill Sponsor and of my colleague sponsoring the legislation in the other chamber. The additional goal of the legislation is to preserve the three-tiered system in Illinois in order to protect the public safety, welfare of the citizens of the State of Illinois and to promote temperance."

"Is that it, Representative Hoffman?"

"Yes." 10100103.docx 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

Speaker Davis: "Great. No one else seeking recognition, Representative Zalewski to close."

"I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 54 pass?' All in favor vote 'yes'; all opposed vote 'no'. And the voting is open. Ding. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, 105 voting 'yes', 7 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bills on Third Reading. We have Senate Bill 1805, Representative Evans. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Just a moment, Representative. Mr. Clerk, please put this Bill back on the Order of Second Reading for the purpose of Amendments. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Harris, are you going to present Floor Amendment #2?"

"Yes. Let me just pull the Bill up, Mr. Speaker."

"Representative Evans, do you wish to address Floor Amendment #2?"

"Hello. Yeah, I'm sorry. Here. I'm adopting Floor Amendment #5."

"So, Mr. Clerk, please withdraw Floor Amendment #2. Floor Amendment #5, Representative Evans." 10100103.docx 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Thank you. Sorry for the confusion. This Bill amends the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District Act. The legislation and the substance allows the district to transfer, lawfully, available revenue to its pension fund. Their plan is to transfer, roughly, $10 million of surplus funds into the district pension fund. Legislation was necessary after the approval of the board to make this possible. I ask for your support."

"Representative Batinick, for what reason do you rise?"

"Would you like to… you want us to adopt it and ask questions on Third? Or…"

"Okay. Representative Evans, anything else?"

"No further statements."

"Mr. Clerk. Representative Evans, excuse me, moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #5. All those in favor say 'yes'; all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'yeses' have it. And Floor Amendment #5 is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Evans."

"Again, I spoke on two. I would request your support. I'm available for questions."

"The Amendment becomes the Bill?" 10100103.docx 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Yes."

"Thank you very much. Mr. Batinick, for what reason do you rise?"

"He indicates he will."

"Not Chicago. The Water Reclamation District is its own entity. So, it's not Chicago."

"Oh, the Water Reclamation's district funds. It's not Chicago. This is their own TIF funds."

"To the Bill."

"Thank you very much. Representative Ford, for what reason do you rise?"

"Will the Sponsor yield, Mr. Speaker?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative, I just have a quick question because I can't read the Bill. I don't have the Bill analysis. What unit of government does this impact?"

"Oh, the Water Reclamation District. Cook County's Water Reclamation District."

"Okay. Does the president Kari Steele support this?"

"Yes."

"Okay. Thank you…"

"It's initiative of the Water Reclamation District in Cook County."

"Oh, thank you so very much. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Thank you."

"No one else seeking recognition, Representative Evans to close."

"I humbly request your support. Thank you."

"Thank you. Representative Ford, turn your speak light… speak button off. And the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1805 pass?' All those in favor vote 'yes'; all those opposed vote 'no'. And the voting is open. Ding. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? You need assistance, Representative Pappas? Okay. Representative Pappas is having trouble with her… her button. Okay, Representative Pappas, we'll handle that. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, 90 voting 'yes', 22 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having 10100103.docx 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Pappas, if your button had been working, you would've wished to been recorded as a 'yes'? Oh, we got it. Okay, we got it working. Thank you. Mr. Clerk, Senate Bills on Second Readings. Senate Bill 2270… excuse me, 2779. Senate Bills-Third Reading, 2279. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Barbara Hernandez." Hernandez, B.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. SB2779 will clean the confusion of the language from the original legislation. The original legislation used the word 'district' to refer to both the Fox Valley Park District as a whole and the subdistricts. So, we're clarifying that petitions will come from the subdistricts. Also, it includes an increase of signatures for the petitions from 25 to 50. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Wheeler, for what reason do you rise?"

"She indicates she will."

"No one else seeking recognition, Representative Barbara Hernandez to close." Hernandez, B.: "Once again, I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Thank you. And the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 2779 pass?' All those in favor vote 'yes'; all those opposed vote 'no'. And the voting is open. Ding. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. And on this question, 112 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bills on Third Reading is Senate Bill 2527, Representative Collins."

"Oh, they turned it on. Okay, I'm sorry. Thank you, Mr. Chair."

"Sorry, Representative. It's your first Bill. I forgot to ask the Clerk to read it the third time. So, Representative Collins, please."

"Senate Bill 2527 would transfers property currently owned by DCFS to the Carole Robertson Center for Learning in exchange for a dollar. This particular property is unusual since DCFS generally does not own or manage property and instead uses property that is owned and managed by Central Management Services. This is an Agreed Bill, and there's no opposition. I ask the Body for an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Wheeler, for what reason do you rise?"

"She indicates she will."

"Thank you. Thank you."

"Representative Mayfield, for what reason do you rise?"

"Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates she will."

"Just had an inquiry. Are there any animals on this land? Lions, tigers, bears?"

"No, Representative."

"Thank you. Congratulations."

"Thank you."

"Representative Flowers, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you. Well, since there's no animals, are there any trees?"

"You know, it's the West Side of Chicago. So, there's trees everywhere. But no, not on the property."

"Congratulations on your first Bill."

"Thank you, Representative Flowers."

"Representative Willis, for what reason do you rise?"

"Will the Sponsor yield, please?"

"She indicates she will." 10100103.docx 88  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Representative, how many words are in this Bill? I know. I’m serious. Have you done a word count? You do know there is a minimum?"

"No. No, Ma'am."

"You better talk to your staff about this."

"Where's my staff?"

"Congratulations on your first Bill."

"Thank you."

"Representative Severin, for what reason do you rise?"

"She… she'll yield."

"Yes. Yes."

"Oh, yes."

"Thank you."

"Representative Ford, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the west side Representative please yield?"

"She indicates she will."

"Representative, I heard you say that this Bill is agreed. Who told you that?"

"So, yes. There's… there's no opponents. It's agreed by DCFS and CMS."

"But it's not agreed until this Body says it's agreed. So, it's not agreed." 10100103.docx 89  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"You're correct. You're correct, and I'm asking for this Body's support."

"Okay. Let's think about it, Body."

"Representative Thapedi, for what reason do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, will the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates she will."

"All right, I'm going to be a little harder on you now. I'm not going to let you just off the hook like that. All right. So, this property is being sold, or transferred, to this entity for one dollar?"

"Yes, Sir."

"What's the fair cash market value of that property? Yeah, looking at staff."

"There's a reverter clause in it. So, it would revert back to the state."

"That's not what I asked."

"So, we don’t have… we don't have the appraisal."

"No, that's… that's not what… you don't have an appraisal?"

"No, Representative."

"Wait, wait. We're gifting a property to somebody for one dollar and we don't even have an appraisal? You better get some more staff for sale."

"So, when… so, when you have a reverter clause you don't need to have an appraisal for the property."

"I understand that, but is this property worth 10 million, and we're giving it to these people for a dollar? Or 10100103.docx 90  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 is the property worth $50 and we're giving it to them for a dollar? I mean, I want to know what kind of…"

"So… yes."

"'Cause we're all about transparency in the State of Illinois."

"So, the state has spent $754 thousand and $21 on the maintenance on this building since fiscal 2017. So, we'll actually be saving money to our state."

"I'm sorry. Say that one more time. I'm sorry. I apologize. I'm not going to belabor it."

"So… so the state…"

"I just want to know, what is the value of the property? That's all I want to know."

"I will look into that and get back to you, Representative."

"Oh, that's a good answer. That's… is it vacant land, or is it a building, or what's on it?"

"It's a building."

"How big is the building?"

"It's a school type sized building."

"I'm going to think on what I'm going to do."

"All right, no one else seeking recognition, Representative Collins to close."

"So, again, I ask the Body for an 'aye' vote."

Speaker Davis: "Thank you very much on your first Bill, Representative Collins. And so, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 2527 pass?' All those in favor vote 'yes'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Ding. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who 10100103.docx 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. And on this question, 113 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', and this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Congratulations. Mr. Clerk, Rules Report."

"Senate Bills-Second Reading is Senate Bill 3066. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Ramirez on Floor Amendment #2."

"Thank you, Speaker. I rise to request your support for a comprehensive COVID-19 housing relief Bill. As discussed in Executive Committee this morning on House Floor Amendment 5, which the committee voted 'recommends be adopted'. I am first requesting that the House adopt House Floor Amendment 7… one moment. Speaker, my apologies. Staff are telling me there's a technical change. So, I'd like to request that we remove Floor Amendment 2."

"The Representative request we withdraw Floor Amendment #2?" 10100103.docx 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Withdraw, that is correct."

"Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Ramirez on Floor Amendment #5."

"My apologies. I'm so anxious to pass a housing Bill, I just got a little ahead of myself. All right. I'd like to also withdraw this Amendment."

"Representative asked to withdraw Floor Amendment #5. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Ramirez, Floor Amendment #6."

"It's been a long few days. I also would like to ask that we withdraw Amendment 6."

"Representative asked that we withdraw Floor Amendment #6. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Ramirez, Floor Amendment #7."

"All righty. So, I rise to request your support for a comprehensive COVID-19 housing relief Bill. As discussed in the Executive Committee this morning on House Floor Amendment 5, which the committee voted 'recommends to be adopted'. I am first requesting that the House adopt House Floor Amendment 7 on Second Reading. House Floor Amendment 7 contains the same substantive language contained in House Floor Amendment 5. After that vote, I will request that the House adopt House Floor Amendment 8, which is a technical page and line 10100103.docx 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 Amendments to House Floor Amendment 7, correcting references to subsections on page 10, and line 16, which are 2 exceptions to when a sealed court file may be disseminated. Under the new Section 9-121.5, in subsection (f), there's a technical error. House Floor Amendment 8 corrects the reference to subsections (d) and (e). And subsections (d) and (e) provide the exceptions to when a sealed court file may be disseminated. That's a lot."

"Representative Ramirez ask that we adopt House Floor Amendment #7. All those in favor say 'yes'; all the opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'yeses' have it. House Floor Amendment #7 is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Ramirez has offered an explanation for House Floor Amendment #8. She ask for the adoption of House Floor Amendment #8. All those in favor say 'yes'; all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'yeses' have it. And Floor Amendment #8 is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Ramirez."

"Speaker, I come before the House Floor requesting your support for an emergency housing Bill that I have been working on since the start of this pandemic. I am asking for your support for House Floor Amendment 7, which is a substantive 10100103.docx 94  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 Bill that has been negotiated with stakeholders, and House Floor Amendment 8, which is a technical cleanup with some language of House Floor Amendment 7. This Bill offers a comprehensive approach to addressing the crisis of housing instability that has been caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. At the start of this pandemic, I knew from my work as a human social services practitioner that there were many people who would not be able to shelter in place as they were either experiencing homelessness or at risk of homelessness. I knew that there were thousands of families across the entire state that were housing unstable and that as the pandemic raged on economic crisis just worsened, these families who were on the brink of survival would be pushed to the edge. This is why a number of my colleagues in the House and Senate and I immediately got to work on comprehensive legislation to address the needs of those most at risk of eviction and foreclosure. I sponsored an emergency housing legislation that we discussed at great length during the spring emergency legislative Session. Unfortunately, we received staunched opposition and we recessed not having taken action on that proposal. So, here's the thing, 1 in 3 Illinois households is at risk of eviction. Nationally it is expected that approximately 25 percent of households that rent are in need of help to pay the rent. A kid's count report published by the Casey Foundation presented significant racial disparities with COVID-19, stating that 32 percent of African Americans in the State of Illinois, 25 percent of Latinos, Latinx, and 10 percent of whites across the state were unable to pay their rent. A study from the University of Pennsylvania found that 10100103.docx 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 states that have never had an eviction moratorium or that allowed their eviction moratorium to lapse can attribute 1 death, 1 death, to every 60 evictions. The study found that even a 1 percent eviction rate could lead to 5 to 10 percent increase in COVID-19 cases. The federal relief that has been provided has been insufficient. In the spring, the ILGA appropriated $396 million to the Illinois Housing Development Authority to provide emergency rental and mortgage assistance. This aid was distributed over the fall through a lottery. I mean, know that the agency was only able to fund approximately 40 thousand applications of the 80 thousand that they received, that they received that the landlord and tenants had completed. There was a higher number. Fortunately, the latest federal stimulus package includes $25 billion for an emergency rental assistance. The State of Illinois and local municipalities are expected to receive approximately 834 million in rental assistance through this program, 560 million of those dollars will be administered through state agencies. Most of the money must be spent by September 2021. It is, therefore, critical that we create measures that will protect homeowners and tenants for as long as possible. So… here I'm getting to the moment that you want me to. My Bill responds to the impending crisis with a comprehensive approach to address the eviction crisis, the foreclosure crisis, and administering of emergency rental assistance. The Bill provides critical relief for tenants who will face eviction as a result of COVID-19 pandemic or the economic fallout by expanding the ability for tenants to seal eviction cases. This Bill will require the sealings of all 10100103.docx 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 eviction records between March 2020 and March 2022 upon filing. It allows for cases unrelated to nonpayment of rent to be unsealed if a judgement is entered against them. It prohibits tenant screening companies from disseminating sealed eviction records by allowing enforcements by the tenants or Attorney General's Office. This also sunsets July of 2022. The sunset provisions are compromises with the realty and landlord industries. The Bill will also create guidance that any state agency or department that will be administering the Federal Emergency Rental Assistance Program. This guidance will ensure that the program is consistent with Federal Law, while ensuring that those most in need are assisted as soon as possible. Specifically, the legislation clarifies that the program recipients can receive funding based on need, not a capped amount. A written lease is not a requirement for the program eligibility but other forms of documentation can be accepted. Immigration status will not be considered for eligibility. Priority must be given to residents of COVID DIAs, people who have documented history of housing instability, and those with significant rental arrears. The agency should also have a process for applicants to rectify applications and communicate denials. Finally, for closure protections, we understand going into this that not only do tenants need protections but so do landlords and homeowners that have been impacted by the economic crisis. We all know too well from our very recent history how dangerous a wave of foreclosures can be on homeowners and for tenants. We cannot repeat the fallout from the great recession where small landlords, especially black and Latino communities, 10100103.docx 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 lost their homes, rental units into foreclosure. It is vital that we also protect tenants who lives in smaller properties for foreclosure because we know all too well how negatively impacted tenants are when their landlords are in foreclosure. And so, this Bill will provide protections from foreclosure by providing a moratorium on foreclosures through May 1, 2021, judicial sales and orders of possession through July 31, 2021. The moratorium applies to both homeowners and landlords of properties with 6 or less units regardless of whether the landlord occupies one of those units. The moratorium's protection, however, do not apply to vacant or abandoned properties. So, I'm going to close this out and just wrap up the piece. Listen, folks, you've heard me say for every single person that ends up homeless as a result of this pandemic or prior, it cost us 4 times more to help them find permanent housing. The eviction crisis is going to be here. When the eviction moratorium is lifted, thousands of people will, unfortunately, see themselves in eviction court. Those filings can haunt them for 7 years. This Bill will seal those evictions for the next… through… we've done so many dates, March 2022… through March 2022 and July 2022 that's… you can see it in the Bill. We will also make sure that the rent assistance that we will receive from the Federal Government gets out as soon as possible and we remove barriers to getting that assistance so that the tenants, hopefully, won't be in eviction court and the landlords get their payment. And finally, we provide a moratorium on foreclosures in order to ensure that the landlords and homeowners who are still going to wait for this money, that it's not here yet, can keep their 10100103.docx 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 home and we stabilize our communities. It's a good Bill. It is not the Bill that I was thinking I'd bring to you, it's a lot of Amendments. And I will continue to fight for more housing opportunities, but in this moment, folks, we've had 17 thousand people or more die from COVID. Over a million of them, right, have contracted COVID. It is our responsibility to walk out of here with a Bill that addresses the housing crisis, and you can make that happen. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Thank you, Representative. For the purposes of this debate, the Chair will use a timer, four minute timer. Obviously, more Members can ask for more time if they need it, but we're going to go to a four minute timer. And with that, Representative Batinick, for what reason do you rise?"

"She indicates she will."

"Very brief."

"That is correct. The Republicans voted 'no' and the Democrats voted 'yes'."

"That is correct." 10100103.docx 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"I don't think you're explaining it correctly. I think that the bankers don't have a problem with the rent assistance. The Federal Government has indicated how those dollars could be spent. I think they had a problem with us providing relief to someone if they owned a home and they owned a second home. And because of COVID-19, the tenant couldn't pay the rent on the second home, they wanted to say that the landlord of that second home should not be covered for foreclosure. I believe that we need to provide that foreclosure protection. We got about 90 percent of their language in the current Bill."

"The money from the federal relief that is coming will go directly to the landlord on behalf of the tenant."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Thank you. Representative Guzzardi, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield for a couple of questions?"

"She indicates she will."

"Thank you. Representative Ramirez, a couple of questions for legislative intent. I'm trying to be like conversational about this. So, your Bill does three major things, right? It works on sealing of eviction files, it works on implementing the emergency rental assistance from the Federal Government, and it works on foreclosure protections. It seems relatively comprehensive, but one that I noticed in the Bill is an eviction moratorium for residential tenants. Can you explain what the reasoning is behind not including that in the Bill?"

"Thank you for your question, Representative. Well, it was considered at length by staff and stakeholders to be able to include an eviction moratorium, however, it was determined that the Governor's Executive Orders issuing and reissuing a statewide eviction moratorium during the COVID-19 pandemic was and still remains the best approach for providing this critical tenant protection during the ongoing emergency."

"Okay, but why leave that authority to the Governor?"

"Well, the Governor's eviction moratorium has been a clear an extremely effective. It establishes a consistent approach statewide at a time when preserving housing for 10100103.docx 101  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 countless vulnerable Illinoisans is most needed throughout this unprecedented public health disaster and resulting economic crisis when staying sheltered and at a home is the first offense against this deadly virus. The Governor has been able to respond swiftly and meaningfully."

"So, explain why not to include these provisions in this legislative measure."

"That's another very good question. The Governor's executive powers under the Constitution and State Law are designed for these crisis, which accompany a disaster. Also, the future is unpredictable. And although we have a vaccine, rollout is really uncertain. And so, it's how many individuals who will get to those vaccines is something we don't know right now. So, the Governor's authority that the General Assembly has granted him, places him in the best position to assess the ongoing emergency and reissue a revised moratorium as appropriate."

"Okay. So, in drafting this legislation on emergency housing relief, it was concluded that the Governor has the authority and is best situated to issue and reissue the statewide eviction moratorium?"

"Yeah, so… specially because… yes. So, specially because of sufficient number of Illinois residents receiving the vaccine is not expected until late into the fall of this year."

"Okay. And if there ever does come a time in which a legislative moratorium becomes necessary during this emergency to protect the health of children, families, and our most vulnerable residents across the state, would you 10100103.docx 102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 consider bringing that legislation forward or support a legislative eviction moratorium?"

"If it does, a hundred percent. Yes."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, to the Bill."

"To the Bill."

"I'll be brief. I think we saw in May, when we all convened here, Representative Ramirez, your passion for this issue. You brought down a legislative package then that we weren't able to pull together. I think what we've seen from you this time down is your savvy as a negotiator, that you've worked with all the stakeholders on this Bill. I've been involved in a few of these conversations. I know you and your staff have been in many, many more of them. You've worked really hard to bring the largest stakeholder in this Bill, it was the most vociferously opposed to this measure back in May, you brought them to neutral. You made a lot of compromises and you found a piece of legislation that's going to protect thousands, if not millions, of Illinoisans. It's an admirable piece of work. I admire you. I admire this Bill. And I urge the Body to support it. Thank you."

"Thank you. Representative Mazzochi, for what reason do you rise?"

"She indicates she will."

"The Attorney… so, thank you for your question, Representative. The Attorney General's Office has, in fact, reviewed the Bill, and they have not expressed any concerns."

"Representative, I didn't ask that question. I wish you and I would've talked, and I would've asked it."

"So, first… let me… let me say something in terms of the language that you're concerned about because I know that there's been questions about where some of this language came. 10100103.docx 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 What would've been perfect for me would've been a clear moratorium on all foreclosures, but I really wanted to work with the bankers and the financial industries. So, that language that you're referring to, I got from the bankers. So, I'm going to assume and trust that the Attorney General's Office has looked at it, the bankers have looked at it, and they have not seen a concern on that particular section."

"It's for financial effects."

"Yeah. Yeah. We're trying to make sure that people don't die during a COVID, Representative."

"I had an uncle, my husband's uncle died four weeks ago from COVID-19. He lived in a garage. So, let me tell you that I am tired. I am tired of negotiating with lenders…"

"…and bankers and everyone. And I believe it is time for us to be done with this piece so we can get to the Black Caucus pillars. So, I'm going to tell you that my intent is to move a Bill on emergency housing. That's my intent." 10100103.docx 105  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Representative Reick yields his time."

"Yes. The public purpose is to keep people housed."

"As I mentioned prior, we talked to the Attorney General's Office. They went through all of our language. They did not find any concerns, and they know that this is critical and won't have that impact. I also want to reiterate, for the purpose of those that need to hear this, that much of this language came from the bankers."

"Representative Mazzochi, the intent, and I'm going to say it again… and I know you hear the frustration. I know you've worked on Bills for a long time. I'm sure they are also about keeping people housed and sheltered, and a lot of things that I know we both work on. But I'm going to tell you this again, this Bill is about keeping people housed. For anyone that's never had to worry about paying rent or their mortgage, especially during a pandemic, this is a Bill that you won't have to worry, hopefully, that you're going to have to be opening up more shelters or that you and your family's going to go feed people on Thanksgiving or Christmas, which is when most people go. It’s a good Bill. You know the intent. Let's please pass emergency housing legislation."

"Yes, I've answered the question. I just feel like, yes, I've answered the question."

"Representative Mazzochi…"

"…I don't know if I'll ever say you're… I don't know. But I'm going to say, yes, I've answered the question." 10100103.docx 107  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Representative, are you… do you want to bring your remarks to a close or you have more?"

"Okay. Representative."

"Representative, will you repeat your question?"

"No, and this is not a takings issue. This is a Bill to keep people housed."

"Thank you, Representative. Representative Ammons, for what reason do you rise?"

"I rise… oh, I'm sorry… to see if the Sponsor will yield, Mr. Speaker."

"She indicates she will."

"Representative, you've spent quite some time working with your community and all the stakeholders on this Bill. Is that correct?"

"That is correct. Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve."

"Thank you. And just part of the process of working on this Bill, have you included all of the other stakeholders, including the bankers, the realtors, private owners, advocacy groups and housing, and other interested parties in the crafting of this legislation?"

"Yes, that is correct."

"Thank you. To the Bill. Part of the processing…"

"To the Bill."

"Thank you, Sir. We've experienced, unfortunately, under the COVID pandemic, has not just cost us human lives but also jobs and the ability for individuals to pay their way with 10100103.docx 109  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 their housing, and food, and other utility services that would be standard for most families. Unfortunately, this pandemic has cost us a lot. I've spoken to my Cunningham Township accessor and asked him to review this Bill, and I wanted to just share what he shared with me. He said, this Bill is a big deal because evictions are stigmatizing and keeps people from finding housing. Of course, it impacts us more because, unfortunately, people of color have significantly less income. It also helps to prevent the cycle of poverty and putting people in the streets during a pandemic. So, rent assistance is necessary at this time for renters and for those who are mortgage holders. And we hope that this Body will support this Bill in a similar fashion to some of the other Bills that we've done to try to build affordable housing in other communities. This is a good Bill. I want to thank Representative Ramirez for her dedication and her commitment. And I also want to thank people in the Champaign-Urbana community who has been working with the statewide coalition for housing for people throughout the state and all of their efforts as well. So, with that, thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you, Representative Ramirez. I ask the Body for an 'aye' vote."

"Thank you. Representative Chesney, for what reason do you rise?"

"She indicates she will."

"It's been discussed a lot. It's why we want to make sure that people don't even get the foreclosure filing, but it is not in the Bill. I'd be happy to work with you on something like that in the 102nd Session."

"I guess… let me start with… I need a point of clarification. Where are you getting… where is the part that you see in the Bill that they're not collecting revenue? Are you referring to the landlords not collecting revenue?"

"We've discussed credit scores and the fear of what's going to happen to our homeowners."

"We did not put anything on the Bill, specifically, on that. But this is why we fought so hard to have a foreclosure moratorium."

"On the rent relief, let me just clarify 'cause I think it can get confusing. We've given, already, some rent relief from the first CARES funding. In the latest economic stimulus, we were… we secured $25 billion, right? An entire country of which about 850 million are coming here. That money is for rent relief. It is to go directly to the landlords. And this Bill, which I think is such a critical thing for us to know… on this Bill we are saying that the state agencies should not cap how much they give in assistance. They should give based on need. So, if a landlord is owed $9 thousand, the 5 thousand still leaves them with 4 thousand in debt. This Bill will allow them to be able to get all of it if they apply for it and they're awarded. It's a really good Bill to address this issue."

"Absolutely. I'd love to work on that with you."

"Thank you. Representative LaPointe, for what reason do you rise?"

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates she will."

"I have a… just one question about the Bill. Is the Cook County Sheriff's Office in support of this Bill?"

"They are in support of this Bill."

"Okay, that's great. I want to just speak to the Bill, briefly." 10100103.docx 112  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"To the Bill."

"To the Bill. I submit that here in Illinois we have not done nearly enough during our multiple crises to protect the basic human rights of housing at a time when we're all supposed to be staying at home. I also submit that we haven't done enough to protect small landlords, which I know we all care about. This Bill is a very big step in the direction to support not only renters, homeowners, and landlords during this crisis. We are in a public health crisis and the last thing we should be doing is creating more housing instability. It's been a pleasure to work with you on this Bill, and I urge and 'aye' vote."

"Thank you. Representative Caulkins, for what reason do you rise?"

"She indicates she will."

"That is correct."

"This is the… so, this is the money that's coming from the Federal Government. So, in terms of… so, the way that it works is that the money will come into the state and the state agencies that are administering the program, for the sake of what we know now, it will be IHDA, they will go ahead… and so… 530…"

"…one second. So, $560 million will go to the state directly. The remaining will go to municipalities who will get their direct relief into their municipalities."

"For this… for this round that the latest stimulus Bill passed, all of it is for rent relief. There's no mortgage assistance, which is why we have to do the foreclosure protections that I have on this Bill. It will all go to the landlords, but it's for rent relief. That's for the federal mandate."

"So, 80 thousand people applied…"

"…right? The need was that. And then 40 thousand were able to be awarded. It was based on the application, based on, I'm assuming… it was based on eligibility, right? So, if you have proven COVID impact, if you have obviously proven that you can't pay your rent, your landlord had to indicate that you couldn't pay the rent, and how much you owed, and signed. Your landlord had to provide a lease for this… for the latest one, for the first one. This one, we're saying no lease requirement because we know there are landlords who cannot or will not provide a lease if you haven't paid rent. So, the previous one was based on those requirements." 10100103.docx 114  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"So, that 396 million, Rep, if you remember, we legislated that in May. So, out of that $396 million, IHDA administered… they certainly set aside a portion… again, this is the previous. This has nothing to do with this Bill. This is previously. They set aside a certain amount for administrative cost to be able to run the program, to be able to contract agencies across the entire state to help… help people fill out the application. This happened across the entire State of Illinois, mostly through the continuums of care. That's what we call in housing relocation and services. Of that, a portion went to municipalities and then some went directly, administered through IHDA. But IHDA is the one that paid the check, sent it to the landlord, the tenant never touched a dollar. It went straight to the landlord."

"So, Rep Caulkins, this was the previous… again, this is not this current program. But previously, IHDA broke it down across different sectors. We would have to ask IHDA because IHDA's the one that did the final. Let me be honest with you…"

"Representative, do you need more time or is this your last question?"

"Is this your last question?" 10100103.docx 115  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Representative Keicher yields his time to you."

"Absolutely, yes. It is going to go to the people that need it the most and we want to get them as much as possible so that they are not evicted. Yes."

"Rep Caulkins, that's a conversation with IHDA. They have the authority to create the program. I can't respond… I don't work for IHDA. So, I can't respond for them. But I think we should ask that question to IHDA. That is that previous program. So, what I tell you about the federal dollars coming that we should all be very thankful for, I would say to you that in terms of some of the distributions, for any municipality that has 200 thousand or more residents, they will get their own dollars directly to those municipalities. So, obviously, we know we have a couple of those municipality across the state. They will get that relief directly. It's about $386 million. The rest will go through the IHDA 10100103.docx 116  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 administered program or any state agency that runs the program."

"Well, Representative, I think that it's hard because there's two different programs. So, it's hard to know which program you're talking about. My Bill…"

"…is to clean up some of those issues. I'm with you. IHDA can tell you I called them all the time. I probably called them on Christmas Eve yelling about something. So, what I'm going to tell you for this program, we address some of those issues. If you look at the Bill language of this Bill, we're saying that landlords can assist with the application and that landlords can apply directly. That is very different from what you saw in the previous. And that, Rep Caulkins, is to address the landlord's issue on not being able to get, right, the agreement from the tenant. Or whatever the challenge was to get that application."

"Yeah."

"Yeah."

"The Federal Government changed that, and we're codifying to make… yeah, so the… it's been changed for this relief that we're getting."

"Absolutely."

"Thank you, Representative."

Speaker Davis: "Thank you, Representative. Representative Thapedi, for what reason do you rise?"

"Will the Sponsor yield, Mr. Chairman?"

"She indicates she will."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative, just to get a little bit of clarification. I know that the Lady from DuPage on this side of the aisle was asking you a lot of questions about legislative intent. And if I heard you correctly, I believe that you indicated that this is not a takings Bill, correct?"

"Correct, there is no takings."

"Right. So, there's not Fifth Amendment issues, there are no Fourteenth Amendment issues, there's no just compensation issues, none of that stuff, right?"

"That is correct, yes."

"All right. Now, with respect to the moratorium that you talked about, are lienholders available to file suit immediately under this Bill?" 10100103.docx 118  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Are you asking with regards to foreclosure?"

"Yes."

"One moment."

"So, said another way, while you're referring to counsel, if a homeowner or a property owner is behind, does the lienholder, or the bank, or the lender have the ability to initiate a foreclosure action?"

"No."

"Okay."

"All foreclosures and… there's a moratorium on foreclosures until May 31. And I apologize, we've changed the date so much. Until May 31, they cannot."

"No worries. So, if litigation is currently pending, a foreclosure action that is, must that foreclosure action stop or may they continue on with the litigation?"

"Pending actions should be stayed."

"Stayed until what period?"

"Until May… May 1."

"Okay. Now, with respect to the rent relief, I believe that you testified… or at least you… you indicated to the Gentleman from Decatur, when he was asking you questions, that the Bill has now… or at least your proposal is that landlords now have the ability to actually apply directly for assistance. Is that accurate?"

"That is correct."

"So, prior to this Bill, the only individuals who are really able to actually make the application for that rental relief or rental assistance was the actual tenants themselves, correct?" 10100103.docx 119  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"That is correct. There are now federal requirements that allow for that."

"So, now you're giving more flexibility to not only the tenants to be able to obtain that rental relief that they need, but if for whatever reason the tenant is having challenges, the landlord, too, can be proactive and get that rental assist… that rental assistance in. Is that accurate?"

"Yes, that's correct."

"All right. So, now that we've got those two portions, the moratorium foreclosure and the relief portions, what are the other aspects of this Bill that are paramount that deal, specifically, with the emergency of COVID that we need to be aware of?"

"The last one is eviction filings and sealing of evictions through COVID period. We know that if you have an eviction filing on your record, an eviction judgement because for nine months you haven't worked 'cause IDES couldn't get it together so you can get your unemployment… whatever that reason was, that's to say that during this period that should not haunt you for seven years. So, we have an eviction sealing on it only for the COVID period indicated in the Bill."

"Okay. So, there… there are primarily only three components to the Bill. The moratorium on foreclosures, your rent relief, and then, finally, the sealing of evictions, correct?"

"That is correct."

"I urge an 'aye' vote, Mr. Speaker."

"Thank you very much. Representative Ramirez, no one else seeking recognition… I respectfully ask that 10100103.docx 120  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 Representatives Thapedi, Ammons, and Guzzardi please turn off their… their lights. Thank you very much. And Representative Ramirez to close."

"Speaker, I have waited 2 years to come before this House Floor. At the age of 17, I started working in my church's basement homeless shelter. I saw men come in and out, and I looked in their faces and I saw hopelessness. I saw people that did not believe that anyone would be with them and help them get out of homelessness into permanent stable housing. It is why I stuck around and, at 21, I became the executive director of this tiny, little organization. I will say to you that in those 13 years I met so many people who just needed a little assistance and people in the Legislature and city council to care more and believe that housing is a human right. Today, we are in an unprecedented times. January 6 was horrible. Losing thousands of people because of COVID, especially because they're poor, to me, in some ways, is even worse. Both are bad. So, today, I ask you to stand on the right side of justice. This Body has to make housing a priority. If you want a roof over your head, if you have it, if you have multiple homes, God bless you and your privilege. But unfortunately, too many people are living in a garage, doubled up and tripled up and spreading COVID left and right. So, today, I want to say, first, to every single Legislator that has stood with me, taken the calls, and has asked me what do I do to help, Delia, to Representative LaPointe who has been with me nonstop every single day and, yes, on Christmas Eve, on New Year's Eve, at 10:00 at night, 11:00 at night, thank you. This Bill is also your Bill. To Rep 10100103.docx 121  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 Guzzardi, to Rep Ammons, to Rep Harper, to Rep… Leader Harris, to Rep Morgan, to Robyn Gabel, who's also Representative and a mentor and a leader, to Rep Buckner, to the Latino Caucus, to the Black Caucus, and to all of us here, thank you for this moment. It is time. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"And the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 3066 pass?' All those in favor vote 'yes'; all those opposed vote 'no'. And the voting is open. Ding. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. And on this question, 77 voting 'yes', 33 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, committee… committee announcements."

"Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Hope everybody got that. House will break for committees and be at recess to the call of the Chair. House will be in order. Mr. Clerk, Committee Reports."

"Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Moving to the Order of Senate Bills-Second Reading, Senate Bill 1199, Representative Zalewski. Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Zalewski on Amendment #2."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #2 becomes the Bill. It becomes the revenue proposal. I'd ask for its adoption and move it to Third Reading."

Speaker Davis: "Representative Zalewski… Mr… Representative Zalewski moves for the adoption of Amendment… Amendment #2. All those in favor say 'yes'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'yeses' have it. Floor Amendment #2 is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1199, as amended, does a series of things related to the Illinois Revenue Code. Probably the most important and the thing I expect the most questions on is what we refer to as decoupling. In the Cares Act, the Congress offered to create a 5-year lookback for 10100103.docx 123  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 excess business loss and what's referred to as net operating loss. That is not compliant with Illinois' typical treatment of these 2 deductions. So, we are decoupling from that particular aspect of the Cares Act. That is a 1… potential $1 billion cost savings to the State of Illinois. We're also doing a fix to the data center initiative by making the incentive more appealing by creating a certification that companies can actually apply for and achieve from… so going from 90 days to 2 years. We're adding a year to the South Suburban Brownfield project, which is a very successful program in the south suburbs dealing with redevelopment. We are fixing the sales tax on meals applied under the Assisted Living and Shared Housing Act. There's a confusion based on a ruling by the DOR. We're going to make the statute clearer. With respect to the Marketplace Fairness Act, which is an Act we did to capture more online tax revenue, the Department and IRMA has come to accord on a technical fix. So, that's included in the Bill. The auctioneers were being included in the treatment of a marketplace facilitator. This language clears that up. And then, there's an assessment issue dealing with how SLFs, which are supportive living facilities, are assessed. This statute… this change in the statute clarifies that. So, all that being said, this is an important proposal, and I ask for an 'aye' vote."

Speaker Davis: "Thank you very much, Representative. Representatives Stephens, it's showing that you wish to speak. Is that on this Bill or something else? No. Okay. It's showing up on the screen here, but the light isn't flashing. We just wanted to check. All right. Thank you very much, 10100103.docx 124  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 Representative. For a question, Representative Mazzochi, for what reason do you rise?"

"Before you start the questioning, we are going to use the four minute timer. Just to make everyone aware. He indicates that he'll yield. Please state your question."

"All changes here, I would argue, are within the Illinois Revenue Code, and, therefore, I don't think we have a single subject problem."

"What's your rational for suggesting they don't?"

"You're aware that they all deal with taxation, right, Deanne?"

"Yeah." 10100103.docx 125  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"No. I wouldn't characterize it that way. If we don't do this, the Federal Law on taxation will expose Illinois taxpayers to subsidizing of Federal Law that we don't have to adhere to. We decouple from tax treatments all the time. In this instance, it makes no sense to look back that many years when we simply can go to the spirit of the original statute, which is to carry it forward one year. So, it just makes no sense to allow congress to dictate to us how we should handle these types of issues."

"What I'm told is DOR hasn't put out its January circular yet. So, companies aren't… been given any guidance on how they should treat net operating loss and excessive business loss. So, we're doing this now so that the department can go to taxpayers and say, here's how we're handling net business… net operating loss and excessive business loss. Prepare you taxes accordingly. So, I would not characterize it as a tax increase as compared to a clarification of this statute." 10100103.docx 126  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"A clarification of the statute."

"It… it's us keeping our state taxpayers… our state budget held harmless from the actions of the Congress. That's what it is."

"You could choose to see it that way. I don't."

"I know you do."

"Thank you very much. Next is Representative Sosnowski. For what reason do you rise?"

"He indicates he will."

"Gained as compared to lost if we don't do it is a frame of reference, Joe, but what I would… what we've been briefed on is upwards of a billion dollars."

"What I was told by DOR is there were… both on net operating loss and excessive business loss, there's 2 ranges, anywhere from 200 to 600 billion. If you average those out, 500 billion each, it comes out to a billion dollars. That's the way they've explained it to me. That's the level of exposure they would say we have."

"To the Bill."

"Thank you, Representative. Representative Reick, for what reason do you rise?"

"He indicates he will."

"I'm told that, indeed, GOMB projected that we would decouple when they prepared up estimates."

"Correct." 10100103.docx 129  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Correct. That's correct, I'm sorry."

"I'm told that the… David Harris, who is the Director of Revenue, was made aware of the CARES Act provision in October. He anticipated a Veto Session where we would be able to decouple. That, obviously, didn't occur because of COVID. And GOMB revisited this with us at the end of 2020."

"Well, I don't know that the May budget had the number baked in. What I'm told is, as GOMB produced its revenue estimate for one of our statutory budget meetings under the COVID measure, that it's at that… when GOMB produced its first revenue projection, it was included in there."

"Well, don't forget CARES Act changed the treatment of the two deductions. So, that occurs, David Harris realizes as a result of the change of the treatment that there's going to 10100103.docx 130  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 be a revenue shortfall, alerts the… alerts GOMB that the number may change. We don't do it in Veto Session but, ultimately, we come to the conclusion that if we don't do it, our projected revenue is going to change. So, as of now, it's status quo. But we have to do this or else, eventually, in Fiscal Year '21, in tax year… for tax year '20, filers are going to file and we're going to end up losing that revenue."

"Representative, your time has come to a close. Would you like more time?"

"Representative McCombie yields her time to you."

"Thank you."

"Because we baked in the amount of a normal excess business loss and net operating loss. And what GOMB and DOR is telling us is CARES Act is eventually going to change the way people file in '21 for '20. We have to account for that. Here's the statutory way to do that. That's the way the numbers work. That's…"

"…how to make the numbers make sense."

"Correct."

"It should've been told in May when we didn't know that the CARES Act was going to pass in October?"

"Oh, I'm mistaken. I thought this was a piece of CARES, too. So, repeat your question, Steve."

"I can only describe for you the anxiety of David Harris when he explains his problem, and his tax team, and explains that this kept them up at night once they discovered, in the summer, that it was going to be a problem. And we just didn't meet in Veto Session. I…"

"They… hold on. Hold on, Steve. They knew that the federal… that Congress had acted. However, they had… they have no sense until they filed it. They began tax preparation for '21… or for '20 in '21 of whether we're going to choose to do this or not. Decoupling happens all the time. We're not the only state that's done this."

"So… so, taxpayer… a tax preparer's going to tell them, hey, the General Assembly may not offer you the five-year look-back here. I understand what you're saying, but I also think there's a second view."

"To the Bill."

"Thank you, Representative. Representative Demmer, for what reason do you rise?"

"To the Bill."

"Thank you, Representative. Please turn off your light if you don't mind. Representative Caulkins, for what reason do you rise?"

"He indicates he will. Thank you."

"Sure. I'm happy you asked, Representative. This… the SLF proposal says that… my understanding is when there's an assessor in Illinois that is assessing SLFs in a way that uses what is referred to as an income capitalization approach, and then applying the cap rates to the income to determine the value. Some of the stakeholders are arguing that they're using rental income instead of what's supposed to be the capitalization income. As a result, it's a creating a disparate market. This seeks to rectify that."

"To the Bill."

"Thank you. Representative, could you please turn off your light, Sir? Representative Marron, for what reason do you rise?"

"To the Bill."

"A verification has been requested. Representative Keicher, for what reason do you rise?"

"Visit? You mean you want to go visit with…"

"He indicates he will."

"I think the Gentleman from McHenry did a nice job of walking through those. But it's S corps, C corps, and LLCs, right?"

"They're not. They're not. I'm sorry."

"I made a mistake. I made a mistake, Representative. It's the ones you're referring to."

"Correct." 10100103.docx 138  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Correct. That's correct."

"Well, they… it requires an affirmative act by us to decouple. I will concede that. However, my understanding from the Department of Revenue is that no business was in a position to have decided whether to use the tax break until the middle of January when the notice goes out. They put an annual circular out that says, in this instance, we've gone along with the Federal Government. In other words, your federal AGI is going to carry over to the state return. In this instance, we're going to… the state return is going to have precedence over the federal return in terms of the differentiation. So, in term of… I don't know if rely is the right word, but I will tell you, what I'm told by the experts is, is small businesses should not have made a threshold decision about whether this lawsuit is available to them until the end of January. And as a result, we have until then to make an affirmative decision to decouple. Now, you guys are likely to vote 'no', but it doesn't change… it doesn't change the fact that we're not pulling the wool over small businesses' eyes here. They…" 10100103.docx 139  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"When was the last time you spoke to your accountant about excessive business loss and net operating loss?"

"So, I'm… but I'm asking a specific question…"

"…on these two items."

"When I'm relying on the experts that told us that…"

"…we would have until the end of January to give you a… to give you and your tax preparer guidance."

"So, for tax year 2020, CARES Act said five-year look- back for net operating loss and excessive business loss. We are saying, via state statute, before the Department of Revenue alerts taxpayers to the rules of engagement, do not rely upon the CARES Act provision. This… your AGI will not carry over to the state return for that purpose." 10100103.docx 140  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"I mean, it's too late to go back and forth with you, Representative. Yes. The answer to your question, for all intents and purposes, yes."

"Representative, your time has expired. Do you have more questions?"

"Representative Bryant offers you her time. Please, go right ahead."

"I… that's a great… that's actually a great question. I… I recall that the… oh, my gosh, I'm a mess over here. I recall that the CARES Act 2 did offer the relief from PPP for tax purposes, but I will have to get you an answer on how this affects that, Representative."

Speaker Davis: "Thank you, Representative. Representative McSweeney, for what reason do you rise?"

"To the Bill."

"Representative McSweeney, please turn your light off. Thank you. Representative Davidsmeyer, for what reason do you rise?"

"The Sponsor will yield."

"I… C.D., I appreciate your kind words, but I'm not going to be able to pull this Bill from the record."

"We are going to decouple from a federal provision that we have every right to do, and small businesses will be alerted to the fact that they won't have this five-year look back available to them."

"I… C.D., we're just not going to come to a meeting of the minds on this. I… I understand your position."

Speaker Davis: "Thank you, Representative. Representative Hammond, for what reason do you rise?"

"He indicates he will."

"December 30. It was immediately after the chief of staff sent us the notice that we would be convening for lame- duck… for Session before the new General Assembly's sworn in."

"Yes, October."

"Yes."

"No, I, in fact, am." 10100103.docx 144  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Norine, that's a… that's a sincere point. We did, quite frankly, push GOMB to say, look, it was not wise to bake this into the revenue number. We… we agree on that."

"That's a fair criticism of the process. Correct."

"Thank you. Representative Murphy, for what reason do you rise?"

"He indicates he will."

"Mike, did you file your taxes in October?"

"Well, not… no. My question to you is, did you file your taxes in October?"

"Well… well, did your accountant…"

"Did you accountant say to you…"

"Mike… Mike, you cut me off."

"No."

"That's not what I said."

"I'm… no, it's not."

"Mike, no, it's not. I'm getting upset the way I'm being talked to."

"No. Mr. Speaker, excuse me. I will not be disrespected by like that. It's irresponsible. These guys have been going off on me for 15 minutes, and I've taken it. I'm not going to 10100103.docx 146  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 get cut off like that. I didn't say that, Representative. Finish your statement."

"It's up to you."

"To the Bill."

"Thank you very much, Representative. Ladies and Gentlemen, I know it's late and there's still yet a lot of work yet to be done tonight. So, if you need to, walk away, stretch your legs, get a bottle of water, come back, and let's continue our robust debates and try to make it as civil as possible. Representative Swanson, for what reason do you rise?"

"To the Bill."

"Thank you. Representative Murphy and Swanson, please turn off your lights if you don't mind. Representative Chesney, for what reason do you rise?"

"To the Bill."

"Thank you, Representative. I'd like to just offer a reminder to all Members as it relates to wearing your mask properly, which includes covering your nose and your mouth. So, if you could kindly do that, we would appreciate it. Representative Thapedi, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Z, I don't have cows, and pigs, and beans, and corn in my neighborhood…"

"Oh, man…"

"…and I'm hearing that people in that area are hurting. And I'm listening to this side of the aisle behind me asking for relief. But what I do have in my community is no fresh food, lead riddled water, blight, and police killing unarmed people, but my pleas for help are always ignored. But I do want to understand and try to harmonize what's going on here with this Bill. Whose initiative is this?"

"It is the… well, it's actually a series of initiatives, Andre. The one we've spent the most time on, decoupling, is an initiative of the Illinois Department of Revenue."

"Okay. And what is the impetuous for this Bill?"

"The impetuous is if we don't do it by the time the Department alerts the taxpayers of the 2020 rules of engagement, it will be unfair to them to file under cloudy… effectively, cloudy regulatory schemes. So, we're trying to 10100103.docx 151  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 decide whether we want to remain or decouple from the federal rule on these two deductions."

"Okay. Well, I'm not an accountant, and I'm not an actuarian. So, in English, what does that mean?"

"It means we have…"

"'Cause I'm hearing… I'm hearing from the folks behind me that this is a tax increase on black and brown communities. Now, I take that with great skepticism because I'm hearing, pretty much for the first time, that there's concerns from the aisle behind me about the concerns and the pains of the black and brown community."

"That irony isn't lost on me either, Andre."

"Yeah. So… I mean, again, I want to give credit where credit is due. And if that is a concern and if it is true, I want to take them at their word. So, can you tell me whether or not that's accurate because…"

"I don't consider… I'll go back to the very first exchange I had. I don't consider this a tax increase. You should not have been relying on these two deductions until the department put out its circular at the end of January."

"Well, help me out. Let's play devil's advocate for a minute. I know I only have two and a half minutes. Why are they making that assertion? And you're a very bright lawyer..."

"Because the oppositions are…"

"Why are they making that assertion? I just want to know, are they trying to pull the wool over my eyes by trying to get me concerned about the black and brown community, which 10100103.docx 152  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 is what the Black Caucus pillars are all about? Or is that a bunch of hogwash?"

"I don't view it as a tax increase on small businesses. I truly don't. They probably think it's disingenuous to suggest that. I suggest that it's a tax clarification so everybody knows the rules of engagement when they file their 2020 return."

"All right. Thank you."

"Thank you. Next would be Representative Meier. For what reason do you rise?"

"To the Bill."

Speaker Davis: "Thank you. Respectfully, if Representatives Thapedi and Meier can please turn your speak buttons off, 10100103.docx 154  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 please. I would appreciate it. Representative Butler, for what reason do you rise?"

"To the Bill."

"Representative Stava-Murray, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"How many businesses is it estimated that this will impact? Four hundred and forty thousand, I'm seeing. I'm sorry, I know but…"

"Yes."

"Okay. So, and the estimated impact to our budget, am I correct, in that it's been estimated that we'll be increasing our deficit by 500 million to 1 billion dollars if we don't pass this. Is that accurate?"

"Yes." 10100103.docx 155  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"So, if we do the math for a quick second, let's take the total amount that we could increase our deficit by, which is what we are actually talking about tonight, it would impact each business approximately a thousand to 2 thousand dollars. Is that correct?"

"Say that one part again, Anne."

"So, if you do the math, it's approximately a thousand to 2 thousand dollars per business, if we were to average across all 440 thousand businesses, the 500 million to 1 billion dollars?"

"Correct."

"Correct. So, when we're talking about taxing businesses out of existence, that's a bit of an overreach to me and I'll say… to the Bill. What we're talking about…"

"To the Bill."

"To the Bill. This is a… this is a deficit increase if we don't pass this. And if you want the Tribune, tomorrow, to have the headline, Illinois fails to decouple from federal provisions to increase the deficit by 500 million to 1 billion dollars, then that's on you. But that's not what my people elected me to do. Thank you."

"Representative Morrison, for what reason do you rise?"

"To the Bill."

"Representative Zalewski to close."

"I'm just going to speak to my side for a moment. It's late, we're very tired. We've had an incredibly long day. The decisions in the 102nd General Assembly are not going to be easy. This makes balancing a budget a much more palatable circumstance for our constituents. We're not going to get any help from that side. It's been made perfectly clear over the last 5 days. And then they added insult to injury tonight by the way they conducted themselves. So, I'm asking the 74 on our side to do the right thing, support this legislation, and get it over to the Senate. Thank you."

"Thank you. Members, Representative Marron has requested a verification. All Members will be in their chairs and vote their own switches. The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1199 pass?' All in favor vote 'yes'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Ding. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk… oh, we have… you have technical issues, Representative? If you ask for technical support, we give it to you also. The Gentleman says he's having technical issues. Representative Smith, are you having technical issues? Would you… would you turn on Representative Smith's mic, please? Yes, Representative."

"Mr. Speaker, will the Clerk enter my 'yes' vote?"

"Is that possible, Mr. Clerk?"

"Oh, now it's working. We're good."

"Okay." 10100103.docx 157  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"All right. Mr. Clerk, please… Representative Zalewski? Mr. Clerk, please take the record."

"No, no. Mr. Speaker, can I… can I add this to the Order of Postponed Consideration?"

"Yes."

"Thank you."

"Yes, the Bill… I was told I needed to take the record before I could put it on Postponed Consideration. I just took the record. Just took the record, and I was told that I had to take the record to put the Bill on Postponed Consideration. According to the parliamentarian, you take the record and then the Bill can be requested by the Sponsor to be put on Postponed Consideration. Representative Zalewski asked for the Bill to be put on Postponed Consideration. Leader Durkin, for what reason do you rise?"

"Leader Durkin, it's House Rule 62."

"Leader Durkin." 10100103.docx 158  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"I'm told that you have to exact to know… you have to know exactly how many votes you have to determine whether or not it even meets the threshold for Postponed Consideration. Therefore, you must take the record to finalize the vote."

Speaker Davis: "A verification? If it's on Postponed Consideration…"

"Representative."

"According…"

"So, you still want to do a verification for 50 votes?"

"Even though there was a request for Postponed Consideration, which…"

"…according to this, he got 50 votes…"

"…and he asked for a Postponed Consideration?" 10100103.docx 159  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

Speaker Davis: "Just hold on, Representative. Hold on. Representative Batinick, according to House Rule 56(a), a verification is out of order with regard to a roll call that has not been… that has not received the requisite number of votes to pass."

"For passage, the requisite number of votes is 60, correct?"

"We weren’t voting on Postponed Consideration."

"If it received the requisite number of votes, correct?" 10100103.docx 160  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

Speaker Davis: "Mr. Batinick, that is the ruling of the parliamentarian."

"Representative Mazzochi, for what reason do you rise?"

"Representative Buckner, for what reason do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, we've worked long and hard this year and over these last few days to pass a very important Black Caucus agenda. If we recess right now, we will not be able to get our work done. So, I want the Body to remember that. If we do vote on this Motion, I'm asking everybody on the Democratic side to please vote 'no'."

"The Representative asked for a recorded vote on her Motion. Members will vote their own switches. There is a Motion to recess. All those in favor vote 'yes'; all those opposed vote 'no'. And the voting is open. Ding. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question… on 10100103.docx 161  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 the Motion, there are 44 voting 'yes', 65 voting 'no'. The Motion fails. Continuing on the Order of Second Reading is Senate Bill 1510, Representative Harris. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Harris on Floor Amendment #3."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to adopt the Amendment, if we could, and then debate the Bill on Third."

"Representative Harris moves for the adoption of Amendment #3. All those in favor say 'yes'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'yeses' have it. Floor Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Harris."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The majority of this Bill, it consists of the hospital transformation program for the State of Illinois. Those of you who were here last May remember that when we passed the hospital assessment we had allocated $150 million for a hospital transformation program to improve health care and outcomes in communities affected by health care disparities. At the time though, the Body rejected the proposal that was on the table before us. So, all summer long, the Medicaid 10100103.docx 162  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 Working Group, which is a bipartisan group made up of Legislators from both sides of the aisle, the administration, and the health care advocacy groups, have been working on this new proposal that is before us today. I just want to give special thanks, particularly, to Representatives Camille Lilly, LaToya Greenwood, Fran Hurley, Robyn Gabel, Tom Demmer, Ryan Spain, Norine Hammond, Janet Haas, Members of the working group from this chamber who put in many, many, many hours to get this done. Essentially, Ladies and Gentlemen, what this does is it directs funds to areas that have been disproportionately impacted by disparities of health care that have developed over years and generations and will work to undo those systemic disparities. It's available to all areas of the state that are in distress. We are making sure that there is money for safety net hospitals in Chicago, for FQHCs, to be sure that rural critical access hospitals downstate are accommodated. There's programs to incentivize innovation, particularly in the areas of behavioral health, post-COVID care, maternal child health, and others. I know the hour is late. So, I'm not going to go into a long discussion. I will point out that there are a couple other provisions in the Bill related to some adjustments for nursing homes related to COVID, as well as a fix to the initial hospital assessment Bill, a date correction, and an adjustment for FQHCs. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Thank you, Representative. The Chair will use the timer on this debate. Representative Demmer, for what reason do you rise?" 10100103.docx 163  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"To the Bill."

Speaker Davis: "Thank you, Representative. Representative Flowers, for what reason do you rise?"

"Would you the Gentleman yield?"

"Yes, he will."

"Representative, I thank you and your committee for the hard work and the years of hard work that you've been putting into this, but I have a few questions. So, there's going to be a $150 million given to how many hospitals, over what period of time?" 10100103.docx 164  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"That is $150 million per year. So, each year there will be an additional amount of money. And the hospitals must have submit… or hospitals, or collaborations of hospitals and FQHCs, submit applications. So, there's not a set amount. They would apply for what they need and then these are reviewed by the department and granted based on merit."

"Will these hospitals be allowed to close?"

"No. There are provisions in there that should… the hospital should not close. Or should they cease to deliver the services or not perform, the money will be clawed back."

"So, if the money will be clawed back, then they'll be able to close?"

"This Bill does not address hospital closures. I believe that might be in the pillars Bill."

"My other concern in regards to… what is the transformation? Just give me an idea of what type of transformation are we looking at for these hospitals."

"So, some hospitals that have talked to us about ideas they're thinking of would be transforming to find new ways of delivering… accessing people and delivering mental health and substance abuse community… services in local communities. Or there are a lot hospitals in areas disproportionately hit by COVID who now say they're having to invent from the ground up a whole new type of medical practice that has never existed before. And this is called post-COVID care, that people who have been afflicted with COVID-19, whether they got extremely sick during their illness or just a mild case, hospitals and doctors are now seeing people coming in months later, weeks later with neurological problems, cardiovascular problems. 10100103.docx 165  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 You know, all these things which they are now having to learn how to treat and design buildings and systems to provide that care. And we want to do that in the communities where people live. So, it would be able to incentivize that type of thing."

"And what type of prevention treatment or intervention treatment are people given? Because a lot of these people that died from COVID in my community, the reason why they died was probably because of… the reason why they got sick from COVID was because of the preexisting conditions because of the lack of access to care that they were getting it in the first place. And how are we going to change and have a health care system as opposed to these individual health care providers acting as if there's no new technology or no research out there to help them make people better?"

"No, no, you raise a very good point. And in the… you know, I'll be happy to show you in the actual Bill where it goes through some of the details, but it… when you submit your application, there are enhanced eligibility if you work in collaboration with other hospitals, other health systems, FQHCs, and community organizations. That's actually part of the application process to encourage folks to do that. But also work with other community organizations such as food, or housing, or, particularly, health outreach workers. You know, folks who would go into the home and do the care coordination, help people get to their appointments and that kind of thing."

"And another problem that I have is… oh, wow, what was it? I understand that some…"

"Representative Flowers."

"Yes." 10100103.docx 166  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Your time has expired. Would you like more?"

"Yes."

"Representative West yields you his time."

"Representative Harris, there was another concern I had. A lot of hospitals are having their monies removed from them because of the… of the billing. Now, can you explain what type of billing are the hospitals not in compliance with? And as opposed to taking away the funds from the hospital, because it's really hurting the patients, how about if someone from the Department of Human Services go in and show these safety… these overworked and understaffed safety hospitals what they're doing wrong as opposed to taking the money back?"

"Representative, it's like you and I sat here and planned out your questions to make my Bill sound better, because you'll be happy to know there's actually a section in there that provides resources for hospitals to be able to do just that kind of thing, to bring in better billing services and recovery services so that those claims denials go down and they're able to get more money back from the MCOs."

"My final question. In regards to people being healthier, what type of homes or what type of safety environment are we trying to send them back to?"

"We want to send people back to safe environments. We want to send them back to places with wrap around services if need be. And that is if somebody has a disability, would there be somebody who would help make sure that their house is accessible. If it was somebody who is struggling with a mental illness, would they have somebody who could help make sure that they're taking their medications, getting to their 10100103.docx 167  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 appointments regularly. And if it's a person who's not stably or safely housed, we're trying to incentivize people to also move people into stable housing situations where they can recover from their illness, whether it would a behavioral illness or physical illness, which you can't do, obviously, if you're…"

"And one other question, then I'll bring my remarks to a close. In regards to taking their medication, why is it that Aetna is requiring that people on Medicaid to go to a certain Walgreens, as… I'm sorry, a certain drugstore as opposed to the one that's closest to their community. Considering the fact that this is capitated fees, so the insurance company has already been paid. So, why are we causing our poorest people to have to go further and further put themselves at harm by taking public transportation if they don't have a car… a car and put other people at harm if they have COVID or any other disease that they could pass on?"

"I know the situation you're referring to, and this Bill doesn't touch that issue, but I understand the issue and share your concern about it."

"Well, I think… will your committee be working on that or do I have to help you, or what can I do?"

"I think this could be something we're going to take up. I know Representative Ford has brought it up to me a number of times. So, I think that could be next on…"

"Thank you very much. I appreciate you and your hard work." 10100103.docx 168  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Thank you, Representative. Representative Kalish, for what reason do you rise?"

"Good morning, Mr. Speaker. I have a question of the Sponsor. Does the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Just for legislative intent, I want to read this question. Does this coverage include testing of individuals that have no know symptoms and no known exposure to COVID?"

"Representative, can I try to rephrase your question, possibly, in a way…"

"Please."

"…I think I know where you're going with this. Would you say that there are some who have raised questions about some of the drafting in this Bill related to an insurance issue for testing for people with COVID?"

"I think that's exactly it, Sir."

"And I've talked to the Life Insurance Council of Illinois tonight. I've also sent message with Representative… Chairman Jones to the Department of Insurance that we will work with them and do a trailer Bill to address those concerns."

"Thank you so much."

"Representative Harris to close."

"Thank you for your time. I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"And the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1510 pass?' All those in favor vote 'yes'; all those opposed vote 'no'. And the voting is open. Ding. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members, please record yourselves. Representative Ammons. Representative Frese. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. And 10100103.docx 169  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 this Bill receiving 112 'yeses', 0 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', having received the Constitutional Majority, is declared passed. Mr. Clerk, what's the status of Senate Bill 1530?"

"Representative Harris, Senate Bill 1530."

"Thank you, Mr. Chairman. For those of you looking at the screen, this Bill has nothing to do with utilities or…"

"Representative, I understand you have a Floor Amendment that you need to adopt."

"Oh, you're right. I have a Floor Amendment. I would like to adopt House Floor Amendment #1."

"Mr. Clerk, would you move this Bill back to the Order of Second Reading?"

"Leader Harris on Floor Amendment #2."

"If we could adopt the Amendment and then discuss the Bill on Third."

"Leader Harris seeks for the… asks for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2. All those in favor say 'yes'; all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'yeses' have it. And the Floor Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 10100103.docx 170  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Representative Harris."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill corrects a date in statute. It deals with the eligibility of a hospital in Granite City, Illinois, and that's what it does."

"Representative Spain, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you. No one else seeking recognition, Leader Harris to close."

"Please vote 'yes'."

"And on that question… well, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1530 pass?' All those in favor vote 'yes'; all those opposed vote 'no'. And the voting is open. Ding. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. And on that question, 112 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Willis, your light is on. Would you, please? Thank you."

"It won't go off. Malfunctioned, I'm sorry." 10100103.docx 171  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Moving to the Order of Concurrences. On page 5 of the Calendar, we have House Bill 1559, Representative Cassidy."

"Thank you, Mr…"

"Mr. Clerk, do you need to read the Bill? No. Okay. Go right ahead, Representative."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe I need to adopt… no, this is just a concurrence."

"Concurrence."

"Thank you. I move to concur in Senate Amendment 2 to House Bill 1559. This represents a… an agreement between the City of Chicago and the Chicago Teachers Union. It is a trailer Bill to clean up some distinctions in the… from the Bill that passed this chamber unanimously affecting the collective bargaining agreement in the Chicago Public Schools. And I ask for an 'aye' vote."

Speaker Davis: "The question is… I'm sorry. Representative Batinick, for what reason do you rise?"

"She indicates she will. And we are using the timer, Representative."

"Thank you."

"Thank you for giving me enough time to pull up the notes since they don't come up automatically. I apologize. The Bill deletes one section that deals with Chicago school district 10100103.docx 172  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 collective bargaining subjects. It moves negotiation on the length of the school day and the lengthy academic school year from prohibited subjects to permissive subjects… permissive subjects of collective bargaining in the Chicago school district. Once again, this is an agreed Amendment with no known opposition."

"It went through committee this morning."

"It was unanimous."

"Thank you, Representative. Seeing no further requests, Representative Cassidy to close."

"Please vote 'aye'."

"And the question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 1559?' This is final action. All those in favor vote 'yes'; all those opposed vote 'no'. And the voting is open. Ding. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. It's already taken. On this question, 107 voting 'yes', 3 voting 'no', 0 voting 'question'… 0 voting 'present', excuse me. The House does concur in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 1559. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative, on that… on that Bill you wish to have been recorded? Would you recognize Representative Flowers, please?" 10100103.docx 173  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Pardon me."

"Go right ahead."

"Mr. Speaker, I was walking, not running, and I was trying to tell you to wait. So, please be patient with us. We can't fall on these floors, okay?"

"Yes, Ma'am."

"But, yes, had I been at my desk, I would've voted 'yes'. So, please let the record reflect that I would've voted 'yes'."

"Yes, Ma'am. The record will reflect that you would've voted 'yes'."

"It's 2:00… 4:00 in the… what time is it? I want all of my votes to count."

"Yes, Ma'am."

"Thank you."

Speaker Davis: "Thank you. Continuing on the Order of Concurrences, Supplemental Calendar #1 is House Bill 156, Representative Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The concurrence here simply extends the TNC Bill, which is the Uber and Lyft regulatory Act one year. I'd ask for its adoption."

"Representative… Representative Batinick, for what reason do you rise?"

"He indicates he will."

"Very simply, we have a TNC Act, which is a transportation network… TNP, transportation network provider, that's effectively Uber and Lyft. We put a sunset on the Bill to make sure that we had maintained regulatory control. This extends the sunset."

"I actually think this is a technical correction because we didn't extend the sunset and LRB asked us to fix it."

"It was sent… it was a concurrence sent directly to the floor."

Speaker Davis: "Thank you, Representative. Representative Zalewski to close."

"Vote 'aye'."

"And the question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #3 to House Bill 156?' This is final action. All those in favor vote 'yes'; all those opposed vote 'no'. And the voting is open. Ding. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Is anybody running to their desk? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. And on this question, 109 Members voting 'yes', 3 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. And the House does concur in Senate Amendment #3 to House Bill 1556 (sic 156). And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Continuing on the regular Calendar, page 5, on the Order of Concurrences is House Bill 3360, Representative 10100103.docx 175  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 Hoffman. Representative Hoffman on the Motion. Please turn Representative Hoffman's mic on."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 3360, as amended, requires prevailing plaintiffs in all personal injury or wrongful death actions seeking damages to also be able to recover prejudgment interest on all damages set forth in the judgement. This Bill would indicate that you could receive prejudgment interest of up to nine percent. Nine percent is the amount of post- judgement interest that you can receive now under Illinois law. This would be consistent by allowing some prejudgment interest in over forty states in the United States. I ask for a favorable roll call."

"Representative Mazzochi, for what reason do you rise?"

"He indicates he will."

"That's correct. I believe they were found to be unconstitutional." 10100103.docx 176  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"It's my understanding that this prejudgment interest proposal deals with personal injury and wrongful death actions, not contract."

"Well, there's a thing called the statute of limitations that I think would prohibit that."

"Well, there's a couple things. First of all, this prejudgment interest, if it occurred prior to the effective date or the date that the alleged tort fees or receives notice of the injury or death, whichever is latter, therefore, this 10100103.docx 178  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 does not go backwards, just prospective. In addition, with regard to… you… I think you mentioned asbestos by mesothelioma. There would have to be notice before the prejudgment interest begins."

"Representative, would you like more time?"

"Representative Caulkins offers you his time. Thank you."

"The intent is to get litigation moving so that the… there is a… there's a reason… because the prejudgment interest, there's incentive to move the litigation and/or settle a claim that makes… that is warranted. So, I… the intent of this Bill is that it is prospective from the date of the effective date."

"Was that a question? I apologize."

"Well, I can just tell you I don't… I understand how you're reading it. I don't read it that way, and I don't believe that that is necessary. I can tell you what the intent is. It's that the prejudgment interest would not accrue until the latter of either the effective date or the date the alleged tort fees or receives notice of the injury or death. That's the intent."

"I'm reading from the legislative intent."

"Representative, your time has expired. Would you like more?"

"Representative Reick offers you his time."

"I apologize." 10100103.docx 181  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Staff has it on her phone. I can't see it."

"So, the… I don't believe that is necessary. I believe it is properly drafted."

"Yeah, I think what you're talking about is the actual notice provision versus the accrual date. And the notice provision indicates that you would receive actual notice of the injury 'cause you knew about the injury or you received written notice. The accrual date relates to the date that this actually becomes law, and that indicates that the prejudgment interest would not accrue until the latter of 10100103.docx 182  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 either the effective date or the date the alleged tort fees or receives notice of the injury or death."

"But… but it's… it's the defendant's notice of the injury. It's not… you can't… you can't go back years to when the plaintiff received injury, it's the defendant's notice of the injury. That's when it begins."

"Representative, we have extended your time three times already. Is it possible you can bring your remarks to a close?"

"Well, I think the rationale is what it says you can do."

"Well, the court would have the discretion of which agency. It could be, I assume, possibly a ward of the state. It could be an individual who is possibly in a… has incurred state… been put into a state institution. I think that would be up to the discretion of the court."

"Representative, can this be your last question?"

"I'm not…"

"I'm not saying it's not…"

"…but we have extended you a few times already. We'd just like to be able to move on, that's all. If I offer you more time, can we close at the end of that then?"

"Okay. Representative Welter offers you more time. Thank you."

"Well, it gives the direct discretion to the court and the… obviously, the state would have to have some kind of a standing or would have to have some type of an interest in the case."

"Thank you, Representative. Rules Report."

"Representative Ugaste, for what reason do you rise?"

"He indicates he will."

"Yes. Reasonable settlements, yes."

"Well, first of all, I don't believe that that is practical simply because the plaintiff wouldn't want to take a risk that they're not going to receive a judgment. Therefore, if they get no judgment, they get no… they don't get any interest. Secondly, normally in these types of situations, in a personal injury or wrongful death case, the plaintiff is not the one that's dragging it on. Now, in the age of COVID, we can't have jury trials in many jurisdictions, therefore, we're unable to move forward with trials. And in many cases, it is believed that the defense is simply keeping the plaintiffs… knowing that there's a legitimate claim by the plaintiff and has been a legitimate injury, is simply keeping the money, drawing interest on their own accord, and then eventually, after a long period of time not settling the case, and then not paying prejudgment interest either."

"Well, it would be in… it would be in any wrongful death or personal injury case. So, it… whoever the defendant might be, is my understanding."

"If it is a wrongful death or a personal injury case, yes."

"I think there is a statutory attorneys' fee in nursing home cases, yes." 10100103.docx 187  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"I believe… well, what would happen is they would receive an amount on the judgment that is entered."

"From the date of notice to the judgment date."

"Representative, is this your final question?"

"I will an…"

"Just a little more time? Representative Meier offers you his time."

"If that's the math, then from the point of notice, either actual or written, to the judgment date, it would be nine percent. Yes."

"Yes, any… any personal injury case and/or wrongful death."

"To the Bill."

Speaker Davis: "Thank you, Representative. Representative Davidsmeyer, for what reason do you rise?"

"Indicates he'll yield."

"This is in the case of personal injury and/or wrongful death. So, the defendant would not be receiving a nine percent 10100103.docx 189  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 prejudgment interest because, generally, the defendant is the person that is at fault and would pay the plaintiff who was injured or died."

"If you get hurt at work, that would be under the Illinois Workers' Compensation Law."

"It wouldn't be covered by this."

"Or any type of… any type of personal injury that is nonwork related."

"If you had notice of the actual incident or had a written notice."

"Well, generally, the timeline is controlled by the defendant because the defendant, if it is a personal injury 10100103.docx 190  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 or wrongful death case, has the ability to settle the case for a reasonable amount. But if they decide not to and they delay unduly or just delay, and there ultimately is a judgment, then they would have to pay from the point of notice to the judgment date nine percent."

"Well, if you did not commit a negligent act, you would not be liable."

"Well, I would hope not."

"It does?"

"Probably not in your county."

"Representative Ammons, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move the previous question."

"Representative Hoffman to close."

"I want to thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This proposal is a proposal that would actually speed up the court system, would be reasonable to injured individuals or individuals who actually lost their lives as a result of a negligent and/or strict liability act or intentional act, and I believe it is reasonable. And I ask for a favorable roll call."

"And the question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3360?' This is final action. All those in favor vote by… vote 'yes'; all those opposed… all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Ding. Thank you. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? And we've got some… Representative Slaughter, are you okay? Did you vote? Okay. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 69 voting 'yes', 42 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And the House does concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3360. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, on the Order of Concurrences, we have House Bill 4276, Representative Hoffman." 10100103.docx 192  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill… this House Bill is actually… 4276, which is a Motion to Concur, is actually the agreed to workers' compensation Bill concerning the agreement that we had that expired… that we passed in March and expired on December 31, 2020. A few days ago, we began the debate on this, and I took it out of the record. I know of no known opposition. This actually is the agreed Bill and extends all the provisions to December 30… to June 30, 2021 for the workers compensation, the death benefits presumption, as well as the Illinois Public Employee Disability Act."

"Representative Wheeler, for what reason do you rise?"

"He indicates he will."

"Yes, it is."

"Seeing no further debate, Representative Hoffman to close."

"I ask for a favorable roll call."

"And the question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 4276?' This is final action. All those in favor vote 'yes'; all those opposed vote 'no'. And the voting is open. Ding. Have all voted who wish? Have 10100103.docx 193  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. And the House does concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 4276 on a vote of 113 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. The House does concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 4276. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, on the Order of Concurrence, we have House Bill 2461, Representative Hoffman. Representative Hoffman, concurrence on House Bill 2461."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a several property piece of legislation that the Senate put on this Bill and there were several provisions from Members on both sides of the aisle. It would… the Bensenville IDOT property requires the Illinois Department of Transportation convey specific parts of the land near O'Hare Airport, currently used by the Illinois Tollway Authority. This is a Representative Willis provision. It would… it would give the Carole Robertson Center, or sell it, with the reverter clause for $1. This was Representative Collins' provision. Concerning Northern Illinois University, you could sell property pursuant to the legislation without the CMS approval. This is similar to current law, and it would also ensure that Will County quick take… it authorizes several quick take proceedings for a 2-year period by Will County. And the properties are needed for reconstruction of 80th Avenue, from 191st Street to 183rd Street in Tinley Park. It would require the requisite appraisals. As well as it would allow the comptroller to buy a building for its offices in 10100103.docx 194  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 the City of Springfield. Currently, they rent and they believe it would possibly be cheaper to purchase."

"Representative Butler, for what reason do you rise?"

"He indicates he'll yield."

"It is my intent that they do everything to remain downtown, yes." 10100103.docx 195  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Thank you. Representative Hoffman to close."

"I urge a favorable roll call, please."

"And the question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment numbers 1 and 3 to House Bill 2461?' This is final action. All those in favor vote 'yes'; all those opposed vote 'no'. And the voting is open. Ding. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? You okay, Representative Flowers? Got… okay. All right. No running across the floor. We don't want you to fall. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On the question, we have 101 voting 'yes', 9 voting 'no', and 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill… and the House does concur in Senate Amendments numbers 1 and 3 to House Bill 2461. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Continuing on the Order of Concurrence, we have House Bill 2488, Representative Zalewski. Representative Zalewski on the Order of Concurrence, House Bill 2488."

"Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 2488, Senate Amendment 3, clarifies a technical concern among providers of what's called the PMP, which is a Prescription Monitoring Program. The department, along with the stakeholders, are working… worked through an agreement. I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Batinick, for what reason do you rise?"

"He indicates he will." 10100103.docx 196  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Correct."

"I don't."

"I don't."

"I'm not aware of any."

"Oh, my God."

"Thank you. Is that it, Representative Batinick? Okay. Representative Zalewski to close."

"Vote 'aye'."

"And on this question… the question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #3 to House Bill 2488?' This is final action. All those in favor vote 'yes'; all those opposed vote 'no'. And the voting is open. Ding. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk… technical issue. Representative Willis. We can… for the record, Representative Willis, if… you good? Okay. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. Oh, she did this. Okay, take the record. On a vote of 112 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', the House does concur in Senate 10100103.docx 197  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 Amendment #3 to House Bill 2488. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Willis."

"I meant to vote 'yes'. I'm still having technical difficulty. So for the record, would you please record me as a 'yes'?"

"The record shall so reflect."

"Thank you."

"On the Calendar, page 3, we have Senate Bills- Second Reading. Senate Bill 558, Representative Lilly. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Lilly on Floor Amendment #3."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen."

"Representative Lilly, would you just like to go ahead and adopt all the Amendments and then debate on Third?"

"That's exactly what I was going to do. Please."

"Okay. Representative Lilly moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #3. All those in favor say 'yes'; all opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'yeses' have it. And the Floor Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Lilly moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #4. All those in favor say 'yes'; all those 10100103.docx 198  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'yeses' have it. Floor Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Lilly moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #5. All those in favor say 'yes'; all the opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'yeses' have it. Floor Amendment #5 is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Lilly."

"Thank you, again, and good morning. On this day, Senate Bill 558 is the health and human service pillar for the Illinois Legislative Black Caucus policy agenda. It's the beginning of addressing health needs of all Illinoisans here in the State of Illinois, focusing on the most hardest hit communities, distressed communities, and under-resourced communities here in the State of Illinois. I would first like to thank everyone who have contributed to this piece of legislation. All of the Black Caucus Members who have had General Assembly after General Assembly, putting forth legislation to make sure we all have access to health care. So, I'd like to thank my colleagues here in the Legislative Black Caucus on both sides of the Capitol. I'd like to thank the advocates and the organizations who've contributed with thought and endearment to make sure we are addressing the under… the address… the under-resourced communities as it 10100103.docx 199  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 relates to health care. This Bill is… is agreed and negotiated. The subject matter hearings that we held addressed many of the concerns that we talk about day to day here in the General Assembly and throughout our community when it comes to quality of health. This information has built a database that tells us we have to begin to rid Illinois of systemic racism when it comes to health care. The purpose and the issues related in health care is that health care is a right. It is a human right. It's a basic human right that if you do not receive the basic essentials to ensure quality of life, most Illinoisans would not have good health and quality health. When you are addressing food, the absence of food, housing, education, jobs, health care, and transportation, you are looking at deficiencies in the lives of many. And that here in Illinois, the deficiencies exist in the communities where they're poor, black, and brown statewide. So, at this point, we want to make sure that Illinois is living up to its Constitution, its Preamble adopted December 15, 1970. It is important that we are ensuring that every citizen has access, according to our Preamble, have access to good health, safety, and the welfare and making sure that we're doing it in an orderly fashion. And this particular Bill does just that. With… with that, the Illinois Legislative Black Caucus agenda will ensure that we are addressing the pandemics that exist in our society. One, the systematic racism. Two, violence. And now, COVID-19. This omnibus package with legislation that makes sure we are remedying the harms that's been caused in our communities. We want to take the lead of our Leader Mary Flowers who's been here General 10100103.docx 200  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 Assembly after General Assembly, taking up this measure. And we now want to do as she had done years ago where the HMOs who were not being fair and providing health care to our communities and those who were eligible for Medicaid, that particular legislation is no longer existing here in our state. So, I would like to thank Mary for that vision. This Bill will also look at things that we can do better, we can reform, and we can improve upon. We'll be looking at community health worker initiatives. We'll be reforming hospitals. We'll be adding implicit bias to training throughout the health care industry. We'll be addressing the needs related to substance abuse and mental health treatment. We will make sure that we really will have access to health care. We're looking at the issues around hospital closures and how we can deter that from happening. We're looking at managed care organization reform where we're making those… those concerns with those programs addressed. And we're dealing with infant mortality and maternity mortality where we have a Bill with Representative Greenwood where we're bringing doulas, HB4, before to our delivery of our mothers and our babies. It is important that we begin to… we begin to talk about this measure. And at this time, I'll ask for any questions. And I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Thank you, Representative. Representative Gabel, for what reason do you rise?"

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates she will." 10100103.docx 201  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Thank you. Thank you, Representative, for this very comprehensive Bill. It's very impressive, and I think it's going to have a true impact on the health of the community."

"Thank you."

"I just was wondering if you could tell us a little bit more about the community health worker aspect of this because there's quite a bit of research showing that that can really help improve people's chronic diseases."

"Thank you, Representative. We worked very hard on this initiative to bring forth what we call work for initiatives that allow local people to work within the health industry to ensure that we have better health outcomes through the lenses of prevention and promotion. We have the opportunity to bring forth certification through an opportunity of employment. We have many, many, many industries within the health care industries that's looking to tap into the work that they're doing. They will be dealing with case management, navigation. They'll make sure that a family who needs to navigate the health care system will be able to have that opportunity through their assistance. So, the health care worker has been key and has been known… actually, data has been proven that when you have community health workers, navigators, case management, health outcomes improve. So, we are excited to bring that to our state where we are now bringing grass root approach to making sure we have better health outcomes."

"Great. I think that's going to be a very, very effective program. Well, I just want to thank you, again, for bringing this Bill forward. As you know, we can pass all the Bills we want, but if we don't make sure that they're implemented, 10100103.docx 202  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 nothing will happen. So, let's work together and make sure that all the aspects of this Bill are implemented and we can really improve the health of our people in Illinois. Thank you."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Representative Demmer, for what reason do you rise?"

"She indicates she will."

"No, it does not. But I would like to say it does give the opportunity for managed care to work with local community groups and the department to make sure that we are monitoring, overseeing, and being a part of making managed care effective for all Illinoisans."

"It is not. It has been removed."

"We have an agreed Bill before us today."

"That… that language has been changed. We're requiring them to be trained. Just trained."

"The nurses, the teachers, and the day care… I'm sorry, the day care providers."

"One second."

"I believe that is correct, but they're double checking."

"No. I do know that one."

"Yes. When I mentioned this is an agreed Bill, everyone who chose to meet with us and talk with us through it, we came up with some, I would say, some accommodation to their concerns. This particular language indicates that the Governor agreed to subject to funding availability because they are… and reimbursement. They are very much interested in addressing the disparities within health care. And we are going to work together to make sure that these types of programs and ideas where it includes the community to have… create a workforce that's going to support the outcomes to a population, the most vulnerable population, here in the state. So, this particular creative initiative, which we're bringing back, is subject to appropriation." 10100103.docx 205  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"This is…"

"Representative, I probably dozed off a minute and you did run out of time. Representative Batinick would like to offer you more time."

"Thank you."

"This is language proposed by the Governor's Office, but we will check into it and get back to you."

"No. Actually, this initiative is taking into account the federal match to make sure that this is being implemented." 10100103.docx 206  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Well, real quickly, we just passed a transformation plan tonight, which involved the commitment of the Federal Government through an application to address the health needs in the state. So, I'm excited to see that the Federal Government is working with the state. And many of you who voted in favor of that type of plan is an indication of how this type of plan and this type of ideal can move forward in our state and throughout our country. So, I'm excited about their commitment to better health in America."

"Real quickly in response to that. I have to… I have to state that this opportunity is in front of us. All we have to do is request for approval. And that there is important to any state who's looking to have better health outcomes for its citizens. And that's what we're going to do. And we'll get back to you on their response."

"And something, once upon asked, is better than nothing. We have the opportunity to match our funding here in the state so that we can have better outcomes. And we have in this Bill mechanisms to monitor and support the resources needed to make sure every Illinoisan has access to health care in the poor black and brown communities."

"Representative, Representative Keicher will offer you his time."

"Thank you."

"This has just been brought to our attention. We will work with them to address it."

"Thank you for the question, and we do understand the importance of that question. These are the impetus that we're going to work on, and we will get back to you on everything we come up with. But we appreciate the question."

"Representative, are you… are you done? Did you have a question?"

"Okay, please do."

"To the Bill."

"Thank you. Representative Flowers, for what reason do you rise?"

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"And she indicates she will."

"Representative, first of all, I want to thank you for your hard work and the long hours that you put into this pillar, this very important pillar. I just have a few questions. Excuse me, my voice is tired. In regards to the community health workers, what do you foresee them doing exactly?"

"Thank you for asking, Representative… Leader Flowers. Basically, it is important and it's been documented and researched, that when the vulnerable populations who have barriers to health care have persons to assist them with understanding their health condition, accessing services that they may not know where or how to access, and to have someone available to them to answer their questions about their health 10100103.docx 212  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 issues, they have better outcome. It requires coordination of care that would ultimately improve the access and outcomes."

"Would these also be considered doulas as well?"

"Yes. I apologize, that… that's a separate Bill and program, which is also in this piece of legislation."

"I understand that it's separate but, basically, the doulas would be doing the same thing for the moms and the children…"

"Oh, technically, yes."

"…but for the seniors or the people that's incapacitated, they will be, basically, helping those type of people out. And as a result, maybe some of these people will not have to go to a nursing home or they can get their physical therapy in their homes. Something to… something like that?"

"Yes."

"Okay. We… Representative Gabel and Representative Demmer referred to the implementation legislation. So, is House Bill 157 in your package? Because that Bill was introduced to make sure that the actual legislation that becomes law is implemented. And if not, the agency or the Department would have to report back to tell us the reason why they cannot implement the legislation."

"Representative, that particular piece of legislation, very important legislation, had some single subject concerns, and we requested it to go to one of our other pillars. And it did not receive… it did not get into the Bill, I think, is what they're telling me. However, as I mentioned earlier, this is the beginning of what we're trying to accomplish with 10100103.docx 213  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 the health pillar. We have some trailer Bills that we want to pick up to make sure that that legislation is involved."

"Yes. And my next concern would be the commission. Now, what concerns me about this commission that's being created to provide oversight is that this is monies that will be going to oversee a department that is supposed to be overseeing what the MCOs are doing. And that monies that we're spending on this commission should be going toward helping the patients. That's monies being taking away from the hospitals, the doctors, the patients. And so, I would suggest that the MCOs would go back to the Department of Insurance and have that office of consumer protection to take the calls and the concerns that the… that the consumers may have in regards to what's going on with the Department… with the MCOs as opposed to paying this commission."

"Representative, would you like more time?"

"Yes."

"Representative Chesney offers you his time."

"Thank you."

"Thank you."

"And my final… in order to make sure that the MCOs are in compliance… and, furthermore, I think there needs to be a report that the Department of Insurance would report back to the General Assembly as it used to be with the HMOs. The HMOs would put together a report every year and give us the information so we'll know exactly how this program, or these programs, are being implemented. So, those are just my suggestions. But once again, I want to thank you for the hard 10100103.docx 214  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 work and the long hours and look forward to working with you. Thank you."

"Thank you, Representative. Your input will add more to this initiative. The commission is well overdue for the MCOs, and I think it's an excellent idea to talk to the insurance companies to pay for this commission, or support the commission, and then also get a report from them. I'm looking forward to implementing your suggestions."

"No, no, no."

"You have one more question?"

"I don't… I do not want the MCOs to pay for this…"

"Oh."

"…because, once again, that's taking monies away from… from out consumers that need the health care."

"Okay."

"So, why am I… why am I paying them twice when HFS should be doing that or the Department of Insurance could be collecting that information? We don't need to pay anyone else. Let's put the money where it's needed, and that's with the patients, the hospitals, and the providers, please."

Speaker Davis: "Are you done, Representative? Thank you. Representative Meier, for what reason do you rise?"

"Yes, she will."

"It's for all licensed day care home providers, licensed group day care home providers, and licensed day care centers, directors, and classroom staff."

"It's subject to… oh. This is the new language that was provided in lieu of what was initially suggested. The cost, I believe they believe… I believe that they felt that this would not be an additional cost, but we will look into it."

"Thank you… thank you, Representative. I just want to point out the legislation indicates at least one training. One training for continued ed and support for this population that's serving the children of our future. I think it's something that we need to look into. We do not feel that it will be a cost act that's going to close our child care center. It's going to actually enhance the services and the 10100103.docx 216  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 quality of care for our children. And now, again, this language was submitted in support of making a difference and making sure young people have access to child care. It was not submitted to make sure we close our child care facilities."

"Thank you, Representative. I truly believe one training will help our services to our young people and is… I do not believe it will break the system of child care. And I'm looking forward to working with you."

"Representative Spain, for what reason do you rise?"

"She'll yield."

"Good morning."

"Don't start."

"Our hope was to make sure that all the language become before both chambers to make sure that Members had the opportunity to read, respond, and react. So, we have legislation is both chambers."

"They are substantially similar. We've just changed some few nuances because of the input and the negotiation we've been going through all night. So, they're substantially similar."

"I believe we have the same language. We're working with the Senate to address the issues of HFS." 10100103.docx 218  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021

"Yes. HFS tweaked the language, and we're working to address their issues as well."

"To the Bill."

"Verification has been requested. Representative Lilly… Representative Lilly to close."

"Well, just to address some of the points that have been made. Again, I stated that this particular effort from the Illinois Legislative Black Caucus has been an issue in our state for a long time. We are, basically, making sure that everyone has a right to health care. And the concerns that you have in relations to the resources, I must state again and again, and I listen to Leader Flowers all the time, that because we are not implementing our health care plan to the most vulnerable population to… to the most vulnerable population in our state, we are putting those lives at risk from denials and lack of access. Which, ultimately, when they're not being cared for, we are actually losing resources that are earmarked for our communities. When you put barriers from young people and families to getting their prescriptions because they do not have access to pharmacies in their communities, they are not capable of utilizing their health plan. When you have signage that indicates that individual providers will not accept managed care plans, those individuals do not have access to health care and they are not being able to use their health plan. When you have, I 10100103.docx 220  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 would say, an operation that is denying services and not reimbursing for care, you now have a plan that's truly causing health care concerns. Ultimately, causing persons not to survive, i.e., COVID-19. We, here in the State of Illinois and throughout our country, COVID has hit us the hardest than any other global country in the world. It is truly a concern to many and, particularly, those in the poor black and brown communities that we do not have a health care system that we can tap into, that we can be benefactors of because we have contributed to making sure that the most vulnerable populations in our country have access. We must continue to understand that we have to work on this. It is important that we look at all the legislation that has been noted in this Bill from Legislators from decade after decade trying to address access when we now have health outcomes that's causing persons not to survive a pandemic. We must understand that in the communities that are distressed, in the communities that are under-resourced, in the communities that are underserved, we see that we lack basic… basic human needs that are essential to a quality of life. We lack food, grocery stores, we lack education, we lack housing, we lack jobs, transportation, and now health care. All of these essentials to quality of life must be restored into the poor black and brown communities. If we do not do so, we will never be able to survive the pandemics that we all know will be part of our society. Therefore, here in Illinois, we are putting forth a health pillar with the efforts of the Illinois Legislative Black Caucus to begin this important step today. It's the beginning and we are looking forward to working with each and 10100103.docx 221  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 every one of you here in the General Assembly to make sure that every Illinoisan has access to health care where we will no longer have to hear that the disparities of health care, where expectancy of life is based on your zip code, with a difference between 30 years from one community to a next. We cannot… we can no longer see hospitals closing in the middle of pandemics. We can no longer see lives lost because they did not have access to health care that prevents illnesses, that prevents death. We, collectively, want to see Illinois be the lead in making sure that everyone has access. And we're looking forward to working with our Governor to make sure that when we have available resources, we're implementing the programs that are here in this particular pillar. With that, I'd like to say thank you for your morning ears. Thank you… to all of the Legislators, Black Caucus for their support, initiative, thank each of you for your vote to make sure that we are addressing health care in the poor black and brown communities. At this time, I ask for your 'aye' vote."

Speaker Davis: "Thank you very much, Representative Lilly. Members, Representative Spain has requested a verification. All Members will be in their chairs and vote their own switches. And the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 558 pass?' All those in favor vote 'yes'; all those oppose… opposed vote 'no'. And the voting is open. Ding. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On the vote of 66 voting in 'favor', 44… 41 voting 'against', 0 voting 'present', and this Bill, having received… he withdraws his verification. So, on this question, there are, again, 66 voting in 'favor', 41 voting 10100103.docx 222  STATE OF ILLINOIS 101st GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103rd Legislative Day 1/12/2021 'against', 0 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

"Leader Harris moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All those in favor say 'yes'; all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'yeses' have it. And the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. And now, allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk, Leader Harris moves that the House stand adjourned until Wednesday, January 13, at the hour of 8 a.m., 8 a.m. Yeah, about… yeah, a little under four hours from now. All those in favor say 'yes'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'yeses' have it. And the House stands adjourned."