Illinois House Floor Debate — May 29, 2021

"The House will be in order. Members will be in their chairs. We shall be led in prayer today by Major Chase Wilhelm, who is the Deputy Command Chaplin of the United States Special Operations Command, Army Reserve Element. Major Wilhelm is the guest of Representative Kifowit. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off all cell phones and rise for the invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance."

"We'll be led in the Pledge of Allegiance today by Representative Swanson."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Leader Manley is recognized to report any excused absences on the Democratic side of the aisle."

"Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Please excuse Representatives Gong-Gershowitz, Moeller, and Mayfield today."

"Leader Batinick is recognized to report any excused absences on the Republican side of the aisle."

"Have all recorded themselves who wish? Have all recorded themselves who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There being 114 present, answering the roll call, a quorum is present. Would the Members please stand for the presentation of colors by the Illinois National Guard? Mr. Clerk, please read House Resolution 364."

"Representative Kifowit is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I ask that all Members of the General Assembly be added to this Resolution."

"All Members shall be added. Representative Kifowit moves for the adoption of House Resolution 364. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. Leader Butler is recognized."

"Representative Friess is recognized."

"Representative Kifowit is recognized."

"Specialist Michael Isaiah Nance, United States Army, died July 29, 2019, in the Chicago area."

"Representative Meyers-Martin is recognized." 10200045.docx 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Specialist Henry J. Mayfield, Jr., United States Army, killed in action January 5, 2020, Hazel Crest, Illinois."

Speaker Andrade: "Representative Barbara Hernandez is recognized." Hernandez, B.: "Private First Class Miguel A. Villalon, United States Army, killed in action January 11, 2020. Joliet, Illinois."

"Representative DeLuca is recognized."

"Sergeant Trevor Goldyn, United States Marines, died August 11, 2020, Frankfort."

"Leader Bennett is recognized."

"Thank you, Members. Representative Swanson is recognized."

"Leader Butler… Butler is recognized."

"Please proceed."

"Leader Bourne… Bourne is recognized."

"Please proceed."

"Proceed to the Order of House Bills on Second Reading. House Bill 1091, Representative Hirschauer. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Hirschauer is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, fellow Members. Today I rise to present House Bill 1091. This Bill contains requirements 10200045.docx 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 that will make our FOID card system more efficient and effective. It is also a crucially important step that we, as Legislators, can take today to prevent mass tragedies and everyday gun violence and keep fire arms out of the hands of dangerous people. I'm happy to report that there are some key changes in this Bill from the Bill that many of you voted on in 2019 that truly fixed the FOID for law-abiding gun owners and will bring much needed efficiencies to an overloaded system. This language is consistent with recommendations from ISP that will help them address the FOID card application backlog. If your offices are anything like mine, I am sure that you are fielding complaints weekly, if not daily, about the FOID card backlog. The following changes are designed to fix the system and will help solve problems for our constituents. HB1091 creates the option of an electronic FOID card, allowing folks to have a copy on their phones and available at all times. It allows for automatic renewals of your FOID when your CCL is renewed. It allows for renewals of CCL and FOID cards in the same calendar year, gives authority to ISP to issue one card for FOID and CCL. It allows for automatic renewal of your FOID card when you buy a gun and go through the background check process using the Firearms Transfer Inquiry Program. It allows applicants to use fingerprints already on file with ISP, streamlining this process for hundreds of Illinoisans who already work in professions that mandate fingerprints from a certified vendor. It also provides access to the Secretary of State database for address updates and creates a permanent FOID appeals board that will specifically hear issues with denials 10200045.docx 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 and revocations. Those are some very positive changes, approved by ISP, that I think we can all agree will fix a broken system and help folks in each and every one of our districts. But equally important to me, and I'm sure to all of you, are the ways in which this Bill will work to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people. On February 15, 2019, just a few miles outside of my district, there was a mass shooting at the Henry Pratt Company in Aurora, which killed six people, including the shooter, and injured six more, including five members of law enforcement. The shooter, who had a conviction for felony aggravated assault in Mississippi, was not legally allowed to own a gun in Illinois, but he… he lied on his FOID card application. His felony conviction was not detected until he submitted a fingerprint for his Concealed Carry License. But by that time, it was too late. Law enforcement did not have the resources necessary to revoke his FOID card and firearm. And he kept his gun and used it in a mass shooting, the effects of which are still echoing throughout our community."

"Mr. Clerk, please take the Bill out of the record. Proceed to the House of Bills on Third Reading… Senate Bills on Third Reading. On page 2 of the Calendar, under Third Reading, we have Senate Bill 654, offered by Representative Ortiz. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Ortiz is recognized."

"Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 654 provides daily time for supervised, unstructured, child-directed play for 10200045.docx 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 all students in K-5. It also requires play time for at least to be 30 minutes on any school day that is five clock hours or longer in length. Play time may be divided into play periods of at least 15 consecutive minutes in length. Provides that for any school day less than five clock hours, play time shall be at least one-tenth, rather than a one-fifth, of a day of attendance. Provides that play must comply with a student's applicable individualized education program or federal Section 504 Plan. School shall not withhold play time as disciplinary or punitive action. Play develops social skills, teaching children how to organize, cooperate, resolve conflict, share, and lead. Play gives children the freedom to be creative and explore. Members, let's please keep in mind all the youngest people in the state when taking this vote. Please… I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Leader Bourne is recognized."

"He has indicated she… he will. Please proceed."

"Thirty minutes."

"Not that I'm aware of."

"As amended, my understanding is it is the… the school board, the… the association that represents the school boards, and the Large Unit School District Network."

"I mean, we're talking about recess. No, it's not."

"So, the school is not able to take away recess unless the student is somehow a threat."

"A threat." 10200045.docx 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Proceed."

"Mr. Clerk, Rules Report."

"Representative Willis is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Yes."

"He indicates he will. Please proceed."

"Thank you. Representative, what were the guidelines on this Bill originally?"

"The guidelines originally on this Bill were… the Bill was… for 60 minutes, it would… would require for schools, for play time, for at least 60 minutes. And it also was… would be applicable for grade levels K-8. So, it is now reduced to K- 5, and it is now 30 minutes."

"And you worked really hard with those people that brought the concerns to come to this compromise, correct?"

"Yes. I worked with the Illinois Principals Association and the Illinois Association of School Administrators, and also the Illinois Education Association. And they are all now neutral with the Amendment."

"Thank you very much. And I don’t know if you shared, but this was personal to you, correct?" 10200045.docx 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Yes. It's personal to me because I never had recess growing up. Ever. And I don’t want to be… any child in our state to go without an opportunity to have recess."

"Thank you very much for sharing that. To the Bill. There was an article just yesterday about… I happened to see. And I can't tell you… unfortunately, I can't tell you where I saw it from. But it basically said that our youth of today do not get enough outside time. They do not get enough running around time, get those wiggles going and all of that kind of stuff. And it is great that some parents do take that into consideration and make sure their children have play time maybe after school. But so many of our kids don’t have that opportunity, and it's difficult. I have a daughter who's a teacher, and it is difficult to fit everything that we put into… in the daily schedule. But I honestly believe that this is something we need to truly look at and recognize that, while many people hate mandates, I think this is one that is actually is going to do good for our students. Not only for their physical health, helping them get some extra exercise, but their mental health too, to just take a breather away from things. Many of us have found on the House Floor, when we're here for long periods of time, to go take a walk. It helps us refocus as we go back. I commend the Sponsor because he recognized the original Bill was a little bit too much to try to put into the day and has worked really hard to bring it down to lower level grades and reduce the amount of time. And because of his hard work to try to find that compromise, while I may personally think it's not the best thing, I do believe that this Bill has the right intent and we need to 10200045.docx 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 continue to work on this. But it is one that I am more than happy to vote 'yes' for. So, thank you so much, Representative, for all your hard work on this."

"Members, there's many Members wishing to speak. We'll move to a five minute… five-minute timer. Representative LaPointe is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He will. He says he will."

"I just have a few questions on this, and some of them have been brought out already. But can you tell me a little bit more about the… the evidence based behind this Bill and why recess time leads to better outcomes for all our kids around the State of Illinois?"

"Representative LaPointe, thank you so much for that question. So, there's so much research that shows benefits of play. Play develops social skills, teaching children how to organize, cooperate, resolve conflict, share, and lead. It… play provides the freedom to choose what to do and who… and who to interact with. And I've found that other times during school, play can mitigate anxiety, depression, and stress. Regular breaks from structure and… structured instructional time and improved behavior. Some of the cognitive benefits of play are play gives children the freedom to be creative and explore. Break… breaks for play increase attention and on- task behavior and decrease fidgeting during academic time without a decrease in academic performance. Benefits of play time are even greater for children diagnosed with hyperactivity. Some of the physical benefits are children are most physically… children are most physically activity… 10200045.docx 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 active during free play, even compared to physical education classes. And children are more active after school on days with recess and movement in school. Physical activity and mental… physical activity has mental and physical health benefits."

"Thank you for that. Another question I have is, you mentioned, yourself, growing up that you didn’t have access to recess. Would you say that… is it kids that come from neighborhoods that have higher levels of poverty? Are those our kids that tend not to have access to recess?"

"Sorry, Representative. I don't really know how to answer that question. Could you phrase it differently?"

"I guess what I'm asking is, we're all aware that there is uneven access to resource across the State of Illinois."

"Yes."

"Are there any patterns in terms of kids that are coming from neighborhoods of high levels of poverty? Do those kids have less access to resources than children that grow up in areas with higher income levels?"

"Representative, that is… that… to my understanding, I… I definitely believe that is the case in many of the schools that are in Chicago. I worked at a Chicago public school, a high school, and there are times where I just… I was a security guard when I first started working at a high school. And during the lunch period, one of my tasks was to just tell kids to sit down. You got to be seated for 40 minutes. So, you got to give people a bit more freedom."

"Okay. Thank you for that. I, myself, have worked at a Chicago public school in the Humboldt Park neighborhood. And 10200045.docx 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 it was a neighborhood where kids could not necessarily go outside on the weekend and have free time play because there was a high risk of gun violence. I am so thankful for you for bringing this Bill forward. I wish it was more than 30 minutes, but it's not. I had a… I got recess when I was growing up, and I have great memories of unstructured times hanging out with my friends outside the school, developing imaginative games. I think this is so important for the cognitive and social-emotional development of our young people in every corner of Illinois. I strongly urge an 'aye' vote. And thank you, Representative Ortiz, for bringing this Bill."

"Representative Swanson is recognized."

"He indicates he will."

"No, Representative Swanson. There will be no added time to the school day."

"Representative Swanson, the way the Bill is drafted, the school can implement this time in 15-minute segments. So, it doesn’t necessarily have to be the full 30 minutes."

"Yeah."

"Well, Representative, it's up to the school's discretion on how it is that they will be implementing the 15 minutes. But it needs to be just in 15-minute segments and at least 30 minutes of the day."

"Well, Representative, ISBE did apply a fiscal note on this, and they found that it wouldn’t be necessarily a cost associated to this. But if I could also just quickly respond to… you mentioned there was an administrator, and that administrator was a middle school principal. So, just want you to be aware that this will not be applied to grades 6-8 anymore. So, just K-5."

"Yeah. So…"

"Thirty seconds."

"So, this counts towards clock hours. And so, you do not increase labor time."

"Leader Davidsmeyer is recognized."

"He indicates he will. Please proceed."

"Thank you, Representative. So, technically, after any school day less than five clock hours, play time shall be at least one-tenth, rather than one-fifth, of the day of attendance." 10200045.docx 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Congratulations, Representative."

Speaker Andrade: "Representative Weber… Leader Weber is recognized."

"He indicates he will. Please proceed."

"This is just for public schools."

"No. You cannot… you cannot substitute the physical education time with recess."

"I'm sorry. Can you repeat your question?"

"Well, Representative, play time could include organized games, and it doesn’t necessarily have to… have to be outside, but it is encouraged that they do go outside."

"So, Representative, one of the avenues in which that may occur is specifically for students who have an IEP or a Section 504 plan. And if there is intensive academic interventions that are needed with some of those students, that would… because it's included in the 504 plan or IEP, 10200045.docx 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 those students would be able to then stay inside to receive that academic support. So, currently with this language, that would be applicable to students with an IEP or 504."

"They are… we are… again, we are encouraging them to go outside, but they are able to stay inside."

"Recess is for unstructured time."

"Representative Keicher is recognized."

"He indicates he will. Please proceed." 10200045.docx 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"No."

"Representative, my understanding is they do."

"Representative, not that I'm aware of. But this… I do want you to know that this Bill came out of… it was a recommendation that… of a task force that was created about 10 years ago in which the findings provided 30 minutes of school play time would support academic progress for students."

"Representative Keicher, I believe we are rescuing academics, and we are rescuing academics with Senate Bill 654. And I would really appreciate an 'aye' vote from you, if you want to help me rescue academics." 10200045.docx 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 Keicher: I appreciate the dialogue, Representative. I'm encouraging a strong 'no' vote on behalf of our children."

"Representative Scherer is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to the Bill. I was a teacher, as you know, and I imagine you get tired of hearing that. But I taught for 30 years in grades K-5. I also taught educators getting their master's degree, and one the classes I taught was the power of brain-based learning. So, what did I learn from the power of brain-based learning? Was that when you go to recess, that's when you actually learn because then your neurons relax. And I won't into all the scientific with you, but that is when you learn. So, here's the problem. Also when I taught, every waking minute of every day, in the particular schools I was in, it was push, push, push, prepare for the test, prepare for the test, prepare for the test. It got to the point where the teachers wouldn’t even eat in the teachers' lounge because your entire lunch was, 'What do you need for the test? Are you ready for the state test? The state test. Look at the scores. We have to be number one.' I was not in a school that had failing grades. I was in school that had the top scores. And every year it was push, push, push. So, my issue is, there's no lowering of the standards on the tests. There's no lengthening of the school day. There's no increasing teacher pay for them to work longer. Somehow, we're just supposed to ask teachers to pull a rabbit out of their hat. I would… I'm appalled that the City of Chicago does not have their students have recess. I've been in buildings where recess was cut out. And I can tell you exactly why it was cut out. It was because the people who sat in these green chairs 10200045.docx 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 decided that the only way to know if children learned was to make them test, test, test. And so, the schools, the teachers, the principals, the students feel so much pressure from these tests that they don’t even feel there's time to go out and play because there's so much anxiety. I had a child in the middle of one of the tests go down to the boy's bathroom and peed in the sink because he was so nervous he didn’t even hardly know what he's doing. I had another girl pee her pants in her chair because she was so nervous to have to get up and leave during a test. And guess whose fault that is, folks? It's yours. I would say it's mine, but I've never voted for a test on a student a day in my life. So, for that one, I will not take responsibility. So, again, in conclusion, my concern is, this is an excellent Bill, if we lower our standards on our testing. And if we're going to expect teachers to fit this in to a crammed schedule, we're going to pay teachers what they deserve as we have… are forced to lengthen their school day. So, I would really like to see… Chicago School District, listen up and start giving your students some resources in recess and maybe your scores would go up. But beside the point, you can't keep shoving stuff down teachers' throats and wonder why we have such a teacher shortage. Thank you."

"Representative Crespo is recognized."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield, please?"

"Indicates he will."

"Representative Ortiz, thank you for bringing this. Obviously, this is very important to you. You've worked really hard. And I appreciate your efforts working with the… the 10200045.docx 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 entities that were against this Bill. As you recall, in committee, we didn't get testimony from some folks. And we had, I believe, he was an administrator or a principal that talked about how they structure the school day and he talked about passing. And I guess that meant they have to quantify and factor how long does it take students to pass from one class to the other, and they quantified it. And my question back then, and I'll ask the question again. According to my analysis, our analysis, it says that the time spent dressing or undressing for outdoor play shall not… shall not count towards the daily time for play. Can you tell this Body how long… can you quantify how long would it take for these students to get ready, undress or dress for recess?"

"Representative Crespo, thank you for that question. I can't necessarily quantify that time. I'm not sure how long it would actually take. But that's a great question."

"Would you say 5 to 10 minutes, perhaps? Does that sound reasonable?"

"I would say when it just becomes routine and becomes a little bit less, about five minutes, maybe less."

"Okay. So, let's say five minutes for the purposes of discussion here. That would add, if you figure 5 minutes and 2 15-minute increment recesses, that's like another 10 minutes or 15 minutes. Now, you're… we're at 40, 45 minutes. If it takes longer than that, we're close to an hour. Let me ask you this, Representative. During inclement weather, because we are… according to the Bill, it does encourage that this recess take place outdoors, correct?"

"Yes. Correct." 10200045.docx 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Yeah. What if it's 20 below 0? I don’t think you want the kids outdoors, right?"

"No. Absolutely not."

"Right. So, then they have the option of having recess indoors. But let's say that the gym is being used for a P.E. class. What… what options do the administrators have?"

"Representative, you can actually… I mean, again, you can hold it indoors and you can have organized games. Organized games, it would be inside. But we do want to just shift away from the phones and the tablets."

"But… but when you say organized games, is that considered structure or unstructured?"

"Unstructured. A few games that are there for them to play. Not necessarily the teachers are organizing for them, but just organized games inside."

"Okay. Thank you. And to the Bill. The idea is a great idea. And I think no one disputes that research does indicate that recess does have its benefits. I think where I'm torn, especially after talking to some of my superintendents, is the implementation of this right now. One of the earlier speakers talked about that we should continue to work on this, that we need to look at this. And I think this still needs more work so we can address those implementation issues, especially in light of the fact, and someone brought this before, that because of the pandemic we're dealing with this learning deficit, which is a huge issue in education nowadays. And this was a recommendation made by a task force 10 years ago, way before the pandemic. I don’t think they… they were aware that there would have been a learning deficit that we 10200045.docx 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 needed to deal with. So, I'll continue listening to debate. But, once again, I'm just concerned about the implementation. I think this will need some more work. Thank you."

"Representative Didech is recognized."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates he will."

"Thank you. Representative Ortiz, I just want to drill down a little bit into the practical effect of this Bill and how this is going to work and be responsive to some of the concerns that were raised. So, am I reading this correctly? This Bill will require schools to provide daily time for supervised, unstructured, child-directed play. Is that accurate?"

"That is accurate."

"And this does not force any child to do anything the child does not want to do. Is that right?"

"That is right."

"So, if during this time, if the child doesn’t feel like playing basketball or doesn’t feel like playing on the playground, the child is not going to be dragged out there and forced to do something he doesn’t want to do?"

"That is absolutely correct."

"So, if, during this time, the child doesn’t feel like running around, he'd rather sit down and read a book, that's… that's something that child would be permitted to do. Is that right?"

"That is right."

"And if he'd rather… he doesn’t feel like running around, he'd rather work on his studies, he'd rather sit down with 10200045.docx 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 the teacher, we're not going to drag the child out there and force him to do something he doesn’t want to do?"

"We won't."

"Right. So, that's…"

"School districts won't."

"And just to further clarify, this only applies for kindergarten through fifth grade as well. Is that correct?"

"Yes, Representative. That is correct."

"All right. Thank you for clarifying that. To the Bill. I know the Sponsor has worked very, very hard on this Bill with the other stakeholders to find a compromised solution. I don’t think this Bill, at all, will inhibit ability for a child to get extra help with his studies or to work with his teachers if that’s what he decides to do. I think this is a very sound compromise, and I will strongly encourage an 'aye' vote on this Bill. Thank you."

"Representative McLaughlin is recognized."

"Indicates he will."

"Representative, that is not in the legislation." 10200045.docx 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Representative Mah is recognized."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will. Please proceed."

"Representative Ortiz, I want to thank you for your work on this Bill. And I just want to ask a couple of questions to clarify some things. So, haven’t there been countless studies showing that physical activity and unstructured play actually increases concentration and helps with brain development and, ultimately, with academic achievement for young students?"

"Yes, Representative. That is correct."

"And wouldn’t you say that, after a year or more without social interaction for these kids, where we've had remote learning, that the opportunity to play together in an unstructured way with their friends, having that interaction is valuable to improving learning loss and… and improving academic achievement?"

"Learning loss has been… absolutely. That would… this would promote… students would feel… we have faced a crisis, public health crisis, in which many students have not been outside, have not been with their friends for many years. So, you're absolutely right, Representative."

"And wouldn’t you say that, for those who are concerned about teachers not having the time to work with kids, that there 10200045.docx 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 are other times during the day that this can be an option? For example, the lunch hour or before and after school?"

"Yes, Representative. That is correct. As a college and career counselor and as a teacher assistant, we would often times go into lunch periods or before school or after school to… to support this additional academic interventions."

"Thank you, Representative Ortiz. To the Bill. I think that this is an incredibly important Bill that offers valuable time for young brains to develop and for kids to have more time to develop their well-being. And it ultimately helps with greater academic achievement. We're building a strong foundation for success, future, and life… for success later in life when you give kids the opportunity for more unstructured play. Thank you so much. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Ortiz to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Outside of school, many children have few opportunities for free play. And poor and low income children and children of color are less likely to have time for play at school and more likely to have play time withheld as punishment. Play is a major part of the school day and around the world, Turkey, Finland, Uganda, Singapore, Japan and the UK. A hundred and ninety-six countries recognize play time as a human right by ratifying the convention of the rights of the child. Again, this does not affect IEPs or 504 plans. This will… play time will only be for 30 minutes throughout the day, and it could be in segments of 15 minutes. Kids can get help before, during, and after school. This Bill 10200045.docx 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 does not take away from one-on-one time for instruction. I please urge an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 654 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is now open. All voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 60 'yay'… voting in 'favor', 52 voting 'nay', 0 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1655, on Third Reading. Leader Harris is recognized. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Leader Harris, please proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a land conveyance and acquisition Bill for a… DNR and IDOT, and also contains some corrections on previous Bills. I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Leader Batinick is recognized."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1665 (sic- 1655) pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is now open. All voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting in 'favor', 2 voting 'nay', 0 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, Committee Reports."

"Members, an announcement. This is a reminder of House Rule 51.5. Please remember to wear a face covering that covers your nose and mouth, except for when necessary for eating or drinking. This includes when speaking on the microphone at your desk and prior to the start of Session. Again, please remember to wear a face covering, including while speaking on the microphone. That's pursuant to House Rule 51.5. Thank you. Leader Evans is recognized."

"Yeah, just a quick point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed."

"Yeah. Today I have with me… I just want the record to reflect that Marcus C. Evans, III, is making his first official visit to Springfield. So, after all the parent caucus, we miss our children. I know I miss my son. He's two and half. So, my… the grandmamma and grandfather were nice 10200045.docx 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 enough to bring him down. So, thank you to his grandparents. And give a round of applause to Marcus C. Evans, III, my joy."

Speaker Andrade: "Under Third Reading, Senate Bill 2122, presented… offered by Representative Slaughter. Mr. Clerk, please return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading."

Speaker Andrade: "Representative Slaughter to explain the Amendment."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill is about minors. The Amendment reflects a technical clarification that the substantive provisions do pertain only to minors. I move for its adoption. I'd like explain the Bill on Third Reading."

"Representative Slaughter moves adoption of Floor Amendment #1. All those in favor say 'aye'; those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"Third Reading. Read the Bill."

"Representative Slaughter is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As I present Senate Bill 2122, please take the opportunity to glance up at the big board. What you'll find is a robust, dynamic, bipartisan team of Sponsors and Leaders. This Bill prohibits the use of deceptive tactics when a minor 10200045.docx 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 in custody is being interrogated. The objective of Senate Bill 2122 is to prevent minors from making false confessions. There have been a hundred wrongful convictions in Illinois predicated on false confessions. Minors make up 31 of these cases. Research, experience, and common sense tell us that minors are more likely… between two and three times more likely to falsely confess to crimes they didn’t commit. Those in committee heard me talk about a story of Mr. Terrill Swift. Mr. Swift was wrongly convicted… a wrongly convicted teenager in the Englewood Four case that was sentenced to 36 years in prison for a false confession. Thirty-six years. And, yes, he was later exonerated on DNA evidence, but only after serving over 15 years in prison. Terrill Swift's story is all too common to hear in the State of Illinois. With Senate Bill 2122, of course, we want to prevent lives from being destroyed, but there are two other critical issues that we're addressing with this Bill. First of all, fiscal responsibility. The Englewood Four case cost our state taxpayers over $30 million. This is one case. These civil settlements are costing our state millions and millions of dollars. And also on top of that, taxpayers are paying unnecessary costs to incarcerate individuals that are innocent. Secondly, I really wanted to touch on public safety. And when we talk about criminal justice reform, sometimes this does get lost. When we incarcerate the wrong individual, the actual offender is still out in the community. More times than not, we find that these offenders are… are continuing to commit further crimes. Now, Ladies and Gentlemen, I really wanted to hone in on this. It's something that I'm happy 10200045.docx 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 about, something that I'm excited about. This is not only a criminal justice reform Bill that has bipartisan sponsorship support, but equally important, has strong support from our law enforcement partners. Let me repeat that. This Bill has strong support from our law enforcement partners. In particular, our Chiefs of Police and our States Attorneys Association. We collaborated with the States Attorneys Association to put forth two significant Amendments at their request. First, as it relates to prosecutors proving the voluntariness of confessions, we lowered the burden of proof standard to make that easier for them. Secondly, we limited what qualifies as an inadmissible statement. We wanted to clarify that a statement made by the minor that incriminates someone else would still be admissible, even if deception was used. Of course, the state's attorneys wanted this to continue to gather important information about their cases, to continue to develop investigations as they go about their work. With Senate Bill 2122, we are addressing, once and for all, a long-standing issue with wrongful convictions and false confessions of minors. This Bill has bipartisan support. Again, supported by key entities of law enforcement, supported by our Chiefs of Police and our States Attorneys Association. I urge a 'yes' vote on this important Bill, Mr. Speaker."

"Leader Durkin is recognized."

"Leader Durkin, the short and simple answer is yes. But I'd be remised if I didn’t take just a couple minutes to really highlight your efforts and your Leadership on this Bill. I want to thank you for your collaborative spirit. Also, Representative Windhorst as well. Your experience on this subject matter makes you an expert. And as a Sponsor of the Bill, I thank you and appreciate you bringing your expertise to this discussion. To the essence of the question, and we have both shared a concern that we needed to provide clarity and guidance to the courts, guidance to judges in regards to 10200045.docx 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 these particular matters. And, yes, if the officer is not impeached, if there is not deception, if the testimony of the officer or officers that were there during the confession is unrebutted, this does constitute voluntariness."

"Representative Tarver is recognized."

"Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I apologize by my attire. I had to change a flat tire this morning. Representative Slaughter, I just have one quick question."

"To the Bill or…"

"To the Bill, yeah. I have just one quick question. So, when we speak of minors as it relates to this Bill, is that just based on age?"

"Yes. Under 18, Representative."

"Okay. So, if we had a 30 year old with some intellectual cognitive disability, then this would not apply to them? It's not anybody who's been, essentially, adjudicated as a minor?"

"Yeah, that… we're not capturing and addressing that scenario in this Bill. However, we're going to continue to 10200045.docx 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 work on… on a Bill that would address that, Representative Tarver."

"Okay. So, obliviously, this is a Bill that's good. Happy to support it. I would just have a strong request that, as you continue to look at issues like this, that it's not solely based on age but, to some extent, at least intellectual and cognitive ability. Because I don’t know that a 35 year old, who is essentially functioning with a mindset of a 14 year old, should have deception used on him or her in any manner that’s different because they're not 18 or under. So, I would just say, again, this is a great Bill. I'm obviously going to vote for it. But it might be something that we should look at collectively as a chamber because I don’t think we want that unintended consequence."

"I totally agree, Representative, and look forward to, obviously, continuing to work with you on this particular matter."

"Thank you. I appreciate it."

"The Chair recognizes Senator Slaughter to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As many of you may know, unfortunately, Illinois leads the nation for wrongful convictions. This has undoubtedly led us to a need for interrogations reform. With Senate Bill 2122, we take a significant step forward in protecting our minors from false confessions. While we may not always agree on criminal justice reform, I do believe we all agree that we should have a system that does not incarcerate individuals that are innocent. 10200045.docx 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 Let's turn the page and put this important safeguard in to protect our Illinois minors. I urge a 'yes' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 2122 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 114 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'nay', 0 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Under Third Reading, Senate Bill 2129, offered by Representative Cassidy. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Cassidy is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Senate Bill 2129 is a Bill that I've been working on since, I believe, 2017 in partnership with Matt Jones of the States Attorney Association. This represents a lot of input from all parties and addresses the opportunities… it creates the opportunity for a prosecutor, at their discretion, to motion to resentence defendants such as in situations when someone is serving a longer sentence than they would if sentenced today. A good example of that would be, for example, when we eliminated felony prostitution. That still left people serving time for… for those cases. It preserves the rights established by the Rights of Crime Victims and Witnesses Act. And it allows the court to consider post-conviction factors in determining whether or not someone should be eligible for a resentencing hearing. And I ask for your support." 10200045.docx 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

Speaker Andrade: "The question is, 'Shall'… Representative Carroll."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates she will."

"Yeah, I just want to make sure, Representative Cassidy, I see there's one person in opposition. I'm going to guess this person just may have filled this out incorrectly. Is that correct?"

"I believe so."

"Okay. Thank you. That's all I have. Thanks."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 2129 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please… Clerk, take the record, please. On this question, there are 61 voting in 'favor', 48 voting 'against', 0 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Under Third Reading, Senate Bill 2158, offered by Representative Buckner. Clerk, out of the record. Under Third Reading, Senate Bill 2182, offered by Representative Walker. Clerk… Clerk, please take this Bill back to Second, please."

Speaker Andrade: "Representative Walker to explain the Amendment." 10200045.docx 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"I move to… move Floor Amendment #2 and debate on Third. It is simply a change in effective date."

"Representative Walker moves the adoption of Floor Amendment #2. All those in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"Mr. Walker, please proceed."

"Thank you very much."

"Third Reading."

"Thank you very much. Senate Bill 2182, as amended, is about the data center incentive program, which is only just over two years old in Illinois and has become one of the most successful programs for building jobs and building opportunity and building the infrastructure of the state. It is… and that is to the credit of the state, the industry, the advocates, labor, everyone involved. We are now rated by some organizations as the number two area in the entire world for data center construction. Other organizations rate us as… in actual construction, as the number three in the United States. That's a credit to this program. The spirit of this Bill, as amended, is continuous improvement. I'm going to go through some of the elements, and then we'll talk about questions and disagreements on this Bill. The original Bill provides certificates of exemption for a 20-year period but to be renewed and reviewed every 5 years for such things as use taxes, service use taxes, occupation taxes, Chicago taxes, income taxes is applied to data centers. A local and real 10200045.docx 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 estate tax, which is not our purview, but they are often offered to these programs. In fact, the economic environment, as related to taxation, is extremely strong and matches it or succeeds any other state in the union. And these are economically very viable projects, which is why we attract them in… in numbers. We have over 5 billion in investments so far, multiple billions in discussion. It supports thousands of construction jobs and then at least hundreds of ongoing jobs. The reason that this really started before we started the tax program is because Illinois, and I'm always proud of Illinois, leads the nation in producing advanced engineering degrees in our higher education system. We are still the backbone of distribution in the United States because of our location. We have all kinds of trained labor and skilled labor and are rated very highly in that, and these kinds of organizations need that. And there's a synergy for being a high tech state that even flows to our venture capital world where, although we are among the top five venture capital markets in the country, in fact, among those, our venture capital programs that get funded have the highest rate of profitability. So, we have all kinds of things going for us beyond this tax program and… and therefore, it's successful. What this Bill does, it has a bunch of elements, but I'll mention four that were pushed by and… by the industry itself, which we're happy to work with, and one that is more pushed by the state and the labor organizations in the state, which I support. Number one, it clarifies a campus style data center, opening up data centers not to just one facility but to facilities that can be linked by infrastructure, but within 10200045.docx 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 five miles of each other. Because data centers, it turns out, can be built in large geographic areas, but they can still be considered a data center. For us to expand the benefits of this program to that greatly expands the benefits to the businesses we're dealing with and reflects reality on what is happening on the ground. It clarifies for companies which jobs can be counted as jobs related to their commitments to the state, and thereby receiving tax benefits for those jobs. We also required green building certificates for these entities that became very difficult to achieve. So, we extended the certification of green building from 90 days to 2 years. Again, at the industry request. We further defined tenants so that tenants and affiliated tenants, which could be an affiliated business that actually helps operate the facilities, can be counted and can get all of these tax breaks. That's all defined in the… in the Bill. We added to this an Amendment that has become controversial, to say the least, that is a… required a labor peace agreement between these entities upon recertification or renewal, which ordinarily occurs five years after the original certification. A labor peace agreement that is… requires a memorandum of understanding between the parties within a 180 days of applying for that labor peace agreement. The procedures for the purpose of ensuring an orderly environment for employees of their rights within the National Labor Relations Act and to avoid picketing and other economic actions directed at the employer by that potential labor entity. Now, the… the Amendment itself narrowly defines what jobs are meant to be covered by this. Which we could read the 10200045.docx 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 language, but they are essentially the supporting systems of… of HVAC cooling systems, chillers, piping, that kind of system. It is not expand to just willy nilly anybody that just happens to be in that facility doing sales, doing customer service, doing anything like that. It's about those… those operating engineer jobs. It is limited to that. It does not require unionization. That is not in this Bill, although that's been claimed. What it does require is a labor peace agreement, whereby the two entities may agree that there is a referral process of trained engineers for these specific functions to be reviewed by an agreed process with the employer for up to 48 hours, and then beyond if agreed. And then if a… the referral hall… this is not a hiring hall, it’s a referral hall in the lingo… produces qualified… does not produce qualified candidates, then the… number one, the company is free to pick from qualified candidates or the company is free to hire on their own through another process. So, it is not a mandated hiring process. Now, I will… I will say that this could lead to that. It is not a unionization mandate, but it could lead to that through a fair and open normal election process. And so, there's been a lot of push back that this is a demand for unionization. And I will fully admit that if all these parties act completely appropriately, both the employer and employees, but especially the employees might well vote to belong to a union, but that is not required in this Bill. So, I am now open for questions."

"Representative Walker, please hold for a second. Mr. Clerk." 10200045.docx 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Leader Demmer is recognized."

"Certainly."

"Indicates he will."

"Well, I intended to take the Bill and run it, and I intended to review it and see if it could be improved upon and have Amendments."

"It created opposition."

"That's correct."

"They will be required upon renewal. The current data center agreements that we have will not be abrogated or not go away. But if an entity wishes to apply for new certificates of exemption or renew certificates of exemption, then this becomes applicable."

"It will… similarly, the effective date has been moved to January 2022. And any current party negotiating with DCEO who signs an agreement prior to the effective date will be in the same situation where they will… they will not have to have this… this Bill applied to them until five years after their current agreement."

"That's my understanding. Yes."

"That is technically correct, yes. So, I believe the intent is for the agreements to be resolved by January 1, 2022 for them to be exempt."

"Normally, no. However, there is a definition of affiliated tenant in the data center, which is a tenant that does, in fact, operate… help operate the data center. And they could be covered if they have workers that are filling these roles. So, they would have to have both the workers and get the tax credits for being an affiliated tenant of the operating center."

"Leader Demmer, your time has expired. Would someone yield you time? Leader Welter yields his time." 10200045.docx 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"That responsibility will not fall to the union necessarily through the labor peace agreement. It would fall to the union if the union and the entity that is the company agrees to that. Now, however…"

"I hear that argument. That’s not the intent."

"I did not talk to them directly, but I talked to people who said that they were representing their interests."

"Leader Wheeler is recognized."

"Your wish has been noted."

"He indicates he will."

"Oh, yes."

"Yes."

"It's not defined specifically in the Amendment. No."

"It's actually been used in Illinois for a while now. It was part of the cannabis Bill for the production facilities for cannabis." 10200045.docx 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Yes."

"Yeah. Let's… let's put it to bed. The intent of that Amendment… and we've gone back and forth on the language. The 10200045.docx 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 intent is not to cover the servers. It's not to cover that core equipment about data processing. It's about to cover these things that are listed and similar items that we… the only reason it says and… and not limited to that could be some other named system that is similar that supports the environment."

"What I will consider, and one of the reasons I extended the effective date, was I… I certainly will consider detailed discussions between the industry and DCEO on how to apply this language."

"'22." 10200045.docx 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"The soonest an agreement would have to be reached on this would have to… would be six months after that date. Well, the latest, up to six months after that date. It’s a year from now."

"Right."

"Yeah. If… if a trailer Bill is necessary."

"Wheeler, your time has expired. Would someone yield time? Representative Reick yields the time."

"I hear your request. I'm moving forward as is it."

"Representative Yednock is recognized." 10200045.docx 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Bill Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Thank you. Representative Walker, talking a little bit about a peace agreement and a project labor agreement, and I think there might be some clarity here. On a project labor agreement, which many of these data centers are built under, they come in, they understand that we have a very qualified work force here full of skills. They want peace agreements there. We'll call it… they want labor agreement to make sure there's no strikes. And I… I'll tell you, as someone that goes out does this for a living, that they always come to us and say, we have the best workers in the State of Illinois. They're trained. We know that you show up every day, you do the job, they're done. I think the nuance here… and I'm asking the Representative, maybe he was in on the discussions I wasn’t. The difference between a project labor agreement and a peace agreement would be the company, the underlying company that maybe owns the building, will not try to stop the workforce from unionizing if they want to. In other words, they try to leave them alone. If those people that are doing this type of work… and let me specify this type of work… the systems, the sprinkler systems, the people who run the HVAC, fix the elevators if it's an inside person. A lot of people do this like in hospitals or the downtown buildings. They're the inside operating engineers. It's a separate workforce than the Google, the Facebooks, or whomever might rent space in these places or lease these places. So, I want to make some clarity there for my friends on the other side of the aisle or anybody over here. Representative Walker, is… is 10200045.docx 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 that how you understand the difference between a peace agreement and a labor agreement for this to say that? The peace agreement…"

"Yes."

"…just tries to ask the companies that own the building and the systems not to try to stop a… people, if they want to unionize, to try to not stop them from doing that."

"Well, there are a lot of pieces that can be negotiated in the labor peace agreement. The idea is to establish stability. The idea is to say, for instance, that if we have an organizing effort that you will not do many of the things that are illegal anyway. But you will not coerce or threaten or interfere with reasonable organizing efforts. In exchange, we will not picket. We will not cause a boycott of your company. We will not do the kinds of things that… that can occur so that the employees can choose freely. Now, that is obviously part of the National Labor Relations Act. But in practice, in the field, often there are people that abuse that process. That’s part of it. The thing where… that I would like to point out, and actually point out strongly, is this is a wonderful program as originally designed. As originally designed, it had thousands of people under required labor agreements already. They had PLAs for construction jobs for the trades, for the engineers, the reason that was viewed as advantage for being in Illinois. Again, having the strong unions we have is an advantage for being in Illinois because they produce the labor quickly. They… it was highly trained. It was effective. They got the jobs done. What I'm trying to do is extend that strength of Illinois, because we have 10200045.docx 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 probably the most responsible unions in the country, in my estimation. To… to negotiate with them such that that kind of support, that kind of finding, training, supplying, key personnel can be an ongoing benefit to the company."

"Okay. This is… Representative Walker, this doesn’t force anybody to unionize."

"No, it doesn’t."

"It's a peace agreement."

"That's right."

"For the… for the workers who are going to run the systems in there, that’s all this is. It's not… we're not forcing anybody, any of the regular workers… so, there might be, let's say a thousand workers at… at a site how you've laid it out. Could be a couple different spots within five miles of each other. Those particular workers, we're not forcing unionization. What we're talking about, again, is… let's say the plumbers and the pipe fitters and the boiler makers that work on those systems, to just not try to stop them if they… if they want to utilize a unionization. We’re just saying go ahead and work at it, and we're not going to actively try to stop you from doing that."

"Well, that's true for the jobs defined in the Bill."

"Okay. Okay. I just wanted… I wanted to clarify that. And… and this…"

"Representative Yednock, your time has expired. Will someone yield his time? Representative Hoffman yields his time. Please proceed."

"I'll try to clear this up. I just want to make some clarity so my friends on the other side… so we don’t vote 10200045.docx 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 against a Bill that is good. We got places that are being built in Northern Illinois. They want to come here. We got a great workforce. We have colleges that are putting out these political… or I'm sorry, these computer scientists, they want to be here. Over four or five jobs are a very small percentage of the jobs that say we just want to have a labor peace agreement. It is not the right thing to do to poison a program that many people are still going to use, as many companies are going to come here and do. Don't let that get in your way here. Anyway, I just wanted to make that clarify… to clarify that, everybody. And I would still urge an 'aye' vote so we can just keep building data centers here in the State of Illinois. Thank you, Representative."

"Representative Batinick is recognized."

"The record will reflect. Representative Meier is recognized."

"He indicates he will."

"Representative Zalewski is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. There's a lot of revisionist history being written about what occurred in the last two years with respect to data centers. I'm going to start right there. Two years ago, there was a data center Bill filed. I know because I was the Sponsor. Within the data center dialogue, I insisted that there be prevailing wage language in the Bill, which there was. It should come as no surprise to any data center developer that this is a pro- union state that wants to use union workers. That is not an earth shattering revelation to anybody, nor should it be. On June 1 of 2019, in an accommodation to get votes on a Capital Bill, the incentive was included in the Bill for data centers. The data center incentive is a generous incentive. It takes away money from our General Revenue Fund for the purposes of redeveloping large facilities that employ very few people, relatively, but we did it. And we did it because we wanted to work across the aisle. Now, it's two years later and there's things we want to fix about the data center incentive, including making it more green, and making the incentive work better, and making it better for everybody. In the course of that conversation, it's been discovered that not all data center developers are living up to the promise to organize labor. The Gentleman's Bill does a very simple thing. It says that a developer should enter into an agreement with labor to ensure we're using union labor. He even went so far as to delay it six months so that the developers can clean up their 10200045.docx 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 own mess and make sure they're using union labor. That’s an accommodation to your side. And now, again, there's a narrative shift about what's really going on here. We're a pro-union state that wants those who benefit from our tax code to use union labor. That's what the Gentleman's Bill does. It's a good Bill overall. It will help incentivize even more data center development. And, Mr. Speaker, I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Walker is recognized to close."

"Yes. Thank you very much for all the questions and all the input. I've listened to it very carefully now and in previous days from now. The… my goal here is to improve what is already an outstandingly successful program, improve it by adding even more of the benefits of working in Illinois to it. What we need, I think, and which… which I believe is that we… we have to come to a place where people realize that having good peace with the labor unions and leveraging labor unions for their skills at producing highly skilled workers are, in fact, an advantage of being in Illinois. Labor unions are not a disadvantage for being in Illinois. They are an advantage. We need that mind shift, and I… I'm going to keep marching forward in that way. I would ask for an 'aye' vote. I appreciate all the input. I appreciate, especially, Representative Meier's work to date on this Bill, though not on this Amendment. So, thank you very much."

"Members, Representative… Leader Wheeler has requested a verification. All Members will be in their chairs and vote their own switches. The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 2182 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 10200045.docx 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 65 voting in 'favor', 42 voting 'against', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received… Clerk, please read the affirmative."

"Mr. Clerk, Leader Wheeler has withdrawn his request for verification. On this question, there are 65 voting in 'favor', 42 voting 'against', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Under Third Reading, Senate Bill 2193, offered by Representative Ortiz. Mr. Clerk, please read the… the Bill."

"Representative Ortiz."

"Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker and Members of the Body. I'm presenting Senate Bill 2193, which is an initiative of the Illinois Railroads Association. Senate Bill 2193 was sponsored by Senator Sims in the Senate and passed out unanimously. Senate Bill 2193 is a modernization of the Criminal Codes' burglary definition to bring the code more in line with the industry by adding the term freight container. As you know, the rail industry has grown and evolved over the years, and now intermodal containers are as prevalent on our trains as a traditional railcar. This modification will bring 10200045.docx 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 the code into the 21st century and more in line with how the industry is operating. Thank you for your time. I please ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Ford is recognized."

"Mr. Speaker, will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Thank you. Representative, I want to thank you for bringing the Bill forward. I just want to steal some of your time to urge the railroad to do everything that they can to stop the guns from being hijacked on the railroads because they're causing lots of trouble in the communities and the city. There are lots of guns that are stolen because the railroad's not doing a good job of protecting the freights. I just wanted to steal some of your time to say that. Thank you."

"Thank you, Representative Ford."

"Representative Ortiz to close."

"I urge an aye… I urge an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 2193 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'yay', 0 voting 'nay', 1 voting 'present', 6 not voting. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, Rules Report."

"Representative Wilhour, for what reason do you wish to be recognized?"

"Please proceed."

"Representative Willis, for what reason do you wish to be recognized?"

"A point of personal… personal privilege, please."

"Please proceed."

"Mr. Speaker, you have asked numerous times for Members to put their masks on. I am so happy that Representative Wilhour, when he decided to finally get on the mic, put his mask on. That is the first time this morning it has been put on. There are other Members on the other side that have not bothered to put a mask on since they've walked into this chamber. They seem to think that the rule does not apply to them. I recognize there are times when you're drinking and you're going and having a snack, the mask comes down. But, 10200045.docx 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 Representative Niemerg, you haven’t had your mask on all day. Representative Wilhour only put it on when he got to the mic. Representative David Friess has not had his mask on all day. Representative Halbrook has not had his mask on. Representative Miller has not had his mask on. Representative Chesney has not had his mask on, nor has Representative Caulkins had his mask… he does have it on now. Thank you, Representative. I appreciate that. I do believe if we're going to have Members that are going to blatantly ignore the rule, maybe we need to ask them to leave the chamber while they do that. Thank you."

"Under Third Reading, Senate Bill 2201, offered by Representative LaPointe. Out of the record. Under Third Reading, Senate Bill 2338, offered by Representative Buckner. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Buckner, please proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 2338 is a gut and replacement, and it creates the Illinois Student-Athlete Endorsement Act. Generally, it allows student-athletes in Illinois to earn a market value compensation for the use of their name, image, and likeness, or voice while enrolled at a postsecondary education institution. And two, it obtain… it gives them the ability to obtain an agent for such activity if they feel so necessary. It provides the postsecondary educational institution with the ability to uphold rules that prevent a student-athlete from earning compensation for name, image, and likeness, and this has been done in a number of 10200045.docx 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 states across the country. We worked with the University of Illinois and every athletic director from every school in the state to make sure that the language was correct so this would properly protect student-athletes. I'm happy to answer any questions. And I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Carroll is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative Buckner, are you a former college athlete yourself?"

"I am."

"And where did you attend college?"

"University of Illinois."

"And was your likeness ever used… yes, that. Thank you. And was your likeness ever used by the university in any promotional materials?"

"It was, and I was a party in a class action lawsuit against EA sports for my image being used on the NCAA video game."

"Yes, and we had a conversation about that as well. I appreciate that. So, the university used your likeness to sell things like tickets, jerseys, fund raising materials. How much of that money did you actually see while you were in college?"

"None."

"Okay. Well, you do get a scholarship, which they claim was your compensation. But you received nothing else for your likeness?"

"That is correct." 10200045.docx 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"So, to the Bill. Thank you. This is a phenomenal piece of legislation. This Bill, right here, will make sure that our college athletes are compensated for their likeness and things like that. As we watch things like the NFL draft, the NBA draft, we see these guys in their college uniforms and the universities are very proud of the things that they do. Unfortunately, there likeness, they are not compensated for. This gets us closer to actually doing the right thing. So, I want to thank Representative Buckner on his work on this Bill. Speaker Welch worked on it last year. This is the right thing to do, and I encourage everyone in this Body to vote 'aye'. Thank you."

"Leader Batinick is recognized."

"He indicates he will."

"So, the… what you're looking for probably… this was an educational Bill that we gutted. And so, what you're probably seeing on your analysis is from that."

"Yes, Sir." 10200045.docx 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"We should always ignore the Senate, but absolutely."

"No one that voted against this spoke up and said why they were against it. So, I would be… I would love to hear it now if anybody had anything they want to talk about."

"Yep. Thank you."

"Leader Wheeler is recognized."

"He indicates he will."

"I-N-I."

"Absolutely. Thank you, Leader Wheeler, for that. So, I think one… the spirit of this… of this Bill, we really want to make sure that not only are we allowing these young people autonomy over their name, image, and there likeness, but also giving the institutions the opportunity to protect them 10200045.docx 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 because we know we live in a… a pretty unscrupulous world. So, what we built into this legislation was some parameters that prohibited our young student-athletes from endorsing certain products. So, this would be alcohol and tobacco, cannabis, sports betting, gamming, and things that fall into those categories. Things like… there are about nine things that we've banned from those folks from being able to endorse."

"Absolutely. The… the impetus for, I think, the coalition that was able to come together to get this Bill drafted and pushed this time around was that we've seen that the NCAA has recognized this as an issue, but they have refused to actually move on it. They've had some ceremonially votes about it, but they have not done anything. And so, they've also urged states to get into place and to put in legislation that would put states individually on the right course. And so, we've seen… when we talked about this a year and half ago, we were one of the first states to actually address it. But obviously, we didn’t get the Bill passed. Since then, there have been, I think, 17 states in the country who have moved forward with legislation to do this. And so, the universities, 10200045.docx 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 specifically the University of Illinois and Athletic Director Josh Whitman, came back to us to try to get this done. And we're happy for their partnership."

"Yeah. We'll see… so, there are… I know there's a pending Bill in Michigan. I think there's one in Indiana. I think there's one in Ohio. The states who have passed this so far actually are the west coast states. So, I think California was the first to do it. But we also have seen it in places like Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, usually… typically the Southeastern Conference schools. But the Big Ten schools are all coming on board, but we're leading the charge here."

"Thank you, Leader."

"Leader Mazzochi is recognized."

"He indicates he will. Please proceed."

"Not specifically, Representative. What it does do is give these student athletes the ability to obtain legal counsel or an agent to help them work through whatever those issues are. But we do not specifically speak to trying to take their money and put it in a trust or whatever that may be."

"Thank you for your concern."

"Leader Brady is recognized."

"He indicates he will."

"I did. Despite my Northwestern tie today."

"I did."

"I would assume that there was. I was 17 years old. I don’t know what I signed. I just know it was something that sent me to school. But I assume that there was something at some point that we signed that…"

"I… I would assume so."

"I would assume so."

"Right."

"That would be my assumption."

"Leader Butler is recognized."

"He indicates he will yield."

"Currently, no."

"So, if… if the university has a… say the university is a Nike school and the contract, therefore, requires the EIU football team to wear Nike on the field, that remains. But Tim Butler, the quarterback, could have a Reebok contract and do whatever he needs to do outside of his… his job as a student-athlete."

"Thank you, Leader."

"Representative Buckner is recognized to close."

"Thank you, Speaker Andrade. And thanks everybody who indulged in this conversation. This is really putting 10200045.docx 80  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 Illinois in the right position to… to be the tip of the spear and lead when it comes to making sure that our young people have autonomy over their name, likeness, and image and they are no longer subject to not having the ability to… to control that. And so, we are… we're leading here. And I appreciate an 'aye' vote from everyone in the chamber. Thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 2338 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 95 voting in 'favor', 18 voting 'against', 0 voting 'present', 5 not voting. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Manley in the Chair."

"Proceeding to Senate Bills on Second Reading. Senate Bill 153, Representative Kifowit. Out of the record. Senate Bill 336, Representative Stuart. Out of the record. Senate Bill 583, Representative Burke. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Burke on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Madame Speaker. House Floor Amendment #2 is a gut and replace Amendment. It keeps the language of the underlying Bill, except it removes provisions regarding a change in the value of public and community service. That's taken out of the Bill." 10200045.docx 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Representative Burke moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment 2 to Senate Bill 583. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Burke."

"Senate Bill 583 is an initiative of newly elected Clerk of the Circuit Court of Cook County, our former colleague, Iris Martinez. And it does two things. It does two things. It amends the Local Records Act to provide that records and reports of obligations, basically financial records of the Clerk of the Circuit Court of Cook County, are public records that are available for inspection. And it also mandates that the Clerk of the Circuit Court accept online credit card payments for fines, penalties, and court costs. And also provides that a Clerk of the Circuit Court may accept a certified check as a form of payment for fines, penalties, or costs. I don’t believe there's any opposition. And I ask for an 'aye' vote. Happy to take questions."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 583 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'opposed', 0 voting 'present'. The Bill, having received a 10200045.docx 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 672, Representative Burke. Out of the record. Senate Bill 693, Representative Conroy. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Conroy on Floor Amendment 3."

"Thank you, Speaker. I'd like to withdraw Amendments 3 and 4 and adopt Amendment 5, which removes all opposition and was done in… with working with IDPH."

"Representative Conroy moves for the withdrawal of Amendments 3 and 4. Mr. Clerk, please read Amendment… Floor Amendment 5."

"Representative Conroy."

"Thank you, Speaker. Amendment 5 bring… removed all opposition and is something that we worked on with the Illinois Department of Public Health and becomes the Bill."

"Representative Conroy moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment 5… pardon me. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments? Representative Conroy moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment 5. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Conroy."

"Thank you, Speaker. This Bill is an initiative of the Illinois Fire… Associated Fire Fighters and the Illinois State Ambulance Association and contains two components. First, it allows EMS personnel to request a patient not be sent to the closest emergency department, and instead requests transport to the closest or appropriate EMS approved mental health facility. Second, it puts in place requirements for emergency medical responders, EMRs, to drive an ambulance with a licensed EMT. This provides flexibility to ambulance providers who are struggling with an EMT shortage and will help provide needed training. This proposal will also help increase diversity in the workforce and provide an avenue to bring more individuals into an EMS career who cannot afford to take time off from their day jobs to attend EMT training classes. There are protections built into the Bill to ensure care for patients is maintained, which was negotiated with the Department of Public Health. This Bill will help ensure people requiring EMS services with access to mental health services when they need it. And also establishes a pipe line to address the EMT shortage. There is no opposition to this Bill. And I would appreciate a 'yes' vote."

Speaker Manley: "The question is, 'Shall'… Representative LaPointe, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Does the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates that she will." 10200045.docx 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Thank you. I just had a few questions to the Sponsor to make sure I fully understand this Bill. So, to the Representative. On page 18 of this Bill, starting on line 3, when you're defining private, nonpublic local government employers, that means those ambulances that are… excuse me, routinely staffed by at least two private employees employed by a private company on an ambulance. Is that right? I just want to make sure I'm understanding it."

"Yes, Representative. That's correct."

"Okay. And then one more point of clarification. If a private contracted ambulance is staffed by at least one public employee, then the other employee shall be a minimum of an EMT and does not meet the new standards set forth in the Bill. Is that right?"

"Yes, that’s correct."

"Okay. Excellent. I fully understand. Thank you. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Conroy to close."

"Thank you. I appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 693 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'opposed', 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1410, Representative Welter. Representative Welter. Out of the record. On page 6, Senate Bill 1970, Representative 10200045.docx 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 Conroy on behalf of Representative Gong-Gershowitz. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Conroy on the Amendment."

"House Amendment 3 is a gut and replace and becomes the Bill. The Amendment reflects agreed language to remove opposition and brings DHS, Division of Mental Health, the Illinois Coalition Against Domestic Violence, the Guardianship Advocacy Council, and the ACLU to neutral on this Bill."

"Representative Conroy moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment 3 to Senate Bill 1970. All those in favor vote… say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Conroy."

"Thank you, Speaker. Senate Bill 1970 is an initiative of NAMI and the Chicago Bar Association to enable families to assist loved ones with discharged planning from an inpatient mental health facility. It was drafted based on the compassionate communication on HIPAA provided… provision of Federal Law that was create… enacted by Congress in 2016 and 10200045.docx 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 allows limited access to basic inpatient mental health information by those who can demonstrate that they are involved with the patient's care. The ability to assess loved ones with discharged planning will result in better access to secure housing, aftercare, and successful implementation of the recovery plan. I want to thank Members of the Mental Health & Addiction Committee for your work and collaboration on the Bill and your commitment to continually doing what's right for those with mental health and addiction issues. House Amendment 3 makes substantial changes and addresses concerns and includes agreed language to protect an individual's right to informed consent while enabling family members to assist when loved ones lack decisional capacity. I would be remiss if I did not give Senator Laura Fine the credit she deserves for the work she's done on this legislation for over three years. And the work that Representative Gong-Gershowitz did, a yeoman's amount of work, to bring everybody to… to take all the opposition off this Bill. It was not an easy thing to do. This Bill will help the outcome of severely… those who are… who are struggling with severe mental health issues. And I'd appreciate a 'yes' vote."

"Leader Batinick."

"She indicates that she will."

"Believe it or not, they all have."

Speaker Manley: "The question is, 'Shall'… excuse me. Representative Conroy to close."

"Thank you, Speaker. And I'd appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1970 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there 113 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'opposed', and 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Page 7, Senate Bill 2356, Representative Mazzochi. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Mazzochi on the Amendment."

"Representative Mazzochi moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 2356. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Mazzochi."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 2356 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'opposed', 0 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 2384, Representative Gabel. I couldn’t see you over there. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Leader Gabel on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. House Floor Amendment #2 changes language in the original Bill to give HFS flexibility in 10200045.docx 89  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 applying for CMS approval to implement a program that qualifies for federal matching dollars."

"Representative Gabel moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment 2 to Senate Bill 2384. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Gabel."

"Thank you. Senate Bill 2384 calls for the Illinois Department of Healthcare and Family Services to create a home- based pediatric palliative care program as a benefit under Medicaid. Pediatric palliative care is not simply good for Illinois' most seriously ill children and their families, but it's also good for the sustainability of the Medicaid program. They have done this in other states and it’s… the demonstration projects have been incredibly successful. It really… it has the potential to simultaneously improve family satisfaction and medical outcomes while reducing costs. I'd appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 2384 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Harper, Ortiz, Slaughter, Tarver. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'opposed', and 0 voting 10200045.docx 90  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 2496, Representative Croke. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Croke on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. The Amendment changes the sunset from 10 years to 5 years."

"Representative Croke moves… Representative Ford, can we… can we adopt the Amendment and discuss on Third? Thank you. Representative Croke moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 2496. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Representative… Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Croke."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. SB2496 is an Illinois Commerce Commission initiative that extends the sunset on the Collateral Recovery Act. The CRA allows the ICC to regulate the industry that handles the repossession of cars, boats, and motorcycles. Without this extension, the industry will continue to operate but will no longer be subject to licensing 10200045.docx 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 and regulation. And I'm unaware of any opposition. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Chair recognizes Representative Ford."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates that she will."

"I just have a simple question. What's a sunset? I don’t get it. Sunset…"

"What's a sunset?"

"Sunset."

"It's just extending the program itself. And then it will… we'll have to vote on it again in five years."

"So, the sun has to be…"

"But a sunset like the sun is a little different."

"So, it has to be… like, the sun has to be out for five years?"

"Kind of… yeah. I would say, yes."

"You think that's good? I mean, it could burn out."

"Representative, you know this is not my first Bill, right?"

"Okay. It's not your first Bill. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Chair recognizes Leader Batinick."

"She indicates that she will."

"My understanding, it was just… that was a internal policy decision of the department." 10200045.docx 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"I know that it was just asked for it to change from 10 to 5 years."

"Yeah. Only because this is a department initiative, I… I would assume that came from the department."

"Chair recognizes Representative Guzzardi."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates that she will."

"In the… forgive me, Representative Croke, I'm just coming to this late. But in the ILGA summary here, it mentions changes pertaining to individuals, court records, and the age at the time of conviction. Have those changes been removed from the Bill in the amended version or are they still present in the Bill?"

"It would be present. The only change in the Amendment was the sunset."

"So, that's the only change that this Bill makes whatsoever? Okay. Great. Thank you."

"Representative Croke to close."

"I urge an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 2496 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting in 'favor', 1 voting 10200045.docx 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 'opposed', 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Representative Nichols."

"Thank you. Today, first, I'd like to… my family came down. My wife told me not to start crying. But my family came down to see me as long as they could. So, I want to introduce my wife, Theresa Nichols. She's an Air Force veteran. By the way, I was trying to get her up early this morning but they got in a little bit late. My daughter, Chloe, and my son, CJ. So… yeah, give them a hand. There you go. Y'all kids come down, I be clapping for y'all's kids. All right. So, listen, yesterday, with everything that was going on, I just… I kind of felt like today I'll read this Resolution. In honor of a coach in Chicago, Illinois that… that passed away recently. The State of Illinois House of Representatives 102nd General Assembly. House Resolution 356. I'm going to try not to… I'm going to try to get through this. Offered by Representative Cyril Nichols and Marcus C. Evans, Jr. WHEREAS, The members of the Illinois House of Representatives are saddened to learn of the death of Arthur Goodwin, who passed away on May 14, 2021; and WHEREAS, Arthur Goodwin graduated from South Shore High School in 1985; and WHEREAS, Arthur Goodwin was the head basketball coach for the Bogan High School, where the program was virtually non-existent prior to his arrival; he was affectionately known as 'Goodie' and turned the Bengals into a powerhouse; and 10200045.docx 94  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 WHEREAS, Arthur Goodwin won nine regional championships, two sectional titles, and a Public League championship in 2015; his 2018-2019 team that lost in overtime to East St. Louis in the Class 3A state championship and they won 30 games that year, setting the school record; he got his players to play hard, compete, and play together; and WHEREAS, Arthur Goodwin was not only a program builder but also a nurturer of players; the behind-the-scenes care he had for his players and the relationships he built had a tremendous impact; he was in the school every day and engaged with students, teachers, and staff; when there was a problem, people would seek his guidance; he knew how to lead and move things along; and WHEREAS, Arthur Goodwin was always able to deliver a message that kids could relate to, because he knew them so well; he had an uncanny ability to identify the strengths and weaknesses of every kid, and he treated them each individually; he wanted to know everything about a kid, even after the players left his program, he wanted to keep up with their lives; he never let any relationship go; therefore, be it RESOLVED, BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE ONE HUNDRED SECOND GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, that we mourn the passing of Arthur Goodwin and extend our sincere condolences to his family, friends, and all who knew and loved him; and be it further RESOLVED, That a suitable copy of this Resolution be presented to the family of Arthur Goodwin as an expression of our esteem and respect. I'd just like to say… well, adopted by the House 10200045.docx 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 of Representatives May 28, 2021. I'd just like to say, in Chicago, I know you guys know that basketball is a… is one of the most celebrated sports. And when you run across a gentleman like this that… that take a team of young men and mold them to be more than just basketball players, become real student-athletes and go on and have productive lives. This was a gentleman that dedicated his life to that service. So, I would ask the House for a moment of silence."

"Members, let's take a moment of silence to honor Mr. Goodwin."

"Thank you very much. And thank you to my family for being here. This is amazing, right now, for me. Thank you."

"Thank you, Members. This Resolution was adopted on a previous day. Senate Bill 2521, Representative Caulkins. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill. Pardon me. Senate Bill 2520. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Caulkins on the Amendment."

"Representative Caulkins moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 2520. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion the Chair, the 10200045.docx 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Caulkins."

"Chair recognizes Representative Halbrook."

"Representative Ness, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Question for the Sponsor. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates that he will."

"Thank you. Representative, I… in committee I actually voted against this Bill. And I cited at the time that I was concerned that sometimes these conflicts can turn into very expensive conflicts and legal suits, especially for taxpayers. I cited a case in McHenry County where a tax- funded position has accrued close to half a million dollars of legal fees from using private attorneys. So, in the time, we talked about limits or caps or finding a way to… to not have that happen in a case like this. I'm just inquiring, has there any… been any effort to do that in this case?"

"Yeah, I understand it. I understand the issue. There have been cases in other parts of the state when there's been a conflict between the state's attorney representing a county entity, and they've used other state's attorneys throughout the state to come in and fill that void. And so, I just made the comment in… in committee. I'm going to put it on record here that it's my preference that we don’t use private counsel for cases… involving taxpayer-funded entities and boards when civil cases attorneys are provided to do that. So, I just wanted to put that on record. I still have a concern with that. But I appreciate you bringing this forward. Thank you."

"Representative Caulkins to close."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 2520 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 103 voting in 'favor', 6 voting 'opposed', 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Leader Andrade in the Chair."

"Second Reading, Senate Bill 667, offered by Representative Welter. 1667, my fault. Clerk, please read the record… read the Bill."

Speaker Andrade: "Representative Welter to explain the Amendment."

"Leader Welter moves adoption of Floor Amendment #1. All those in favor say 'aye'; those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Welter."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1667 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'against', 0 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate 10200045.docx 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 Bill 2662, offered by Guzzardi, under Second Reading. Representative Guzzardi. Out of the record. Senate Bill 2662, offered by Representative Guzzardi. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Clerk, please read the Bill. Representative Guzzardi on the Floor Amendment."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Amendment becomes the Bill and simply makes a technical change to the code. Will not have any practical impact. And I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Guzzardi moves adoption of Floor Amendment #1. All those in favor say 'aye'; those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Guzzardi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 2662, as amended, simply removes unnecessary and redundant language in the statute pertaining to conditional permanent residence. It will have no impact on the substantive effect of the Act. Simply language clean up in the Motor Vehicle Code. I urge an 'aye' vote." 10200045.docx 101  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Representative Keicher is recognized."

"He indicates he will."

"Yeah. So, this language in the statute refers to conditional permanent residence. Conditional permanent residence refers… or receives a Green Card because of marriage or because of entrepreneurship. But they're already covered in the code."

"And so, this is just removing a redundant reference to those individuals."

"That's correct. As I understand it, yes."

"Representative Guzzardi to close."

"Thank you, Members. Urge an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 2662 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'nay', 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 12 of the 10200045.docx 102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 Calendar, under the Order of Resolutions, we have House Joint Resolution 34, offered by Representative Buckner. Representative Buckner."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Joint Resolution 34 just… simply, it requests that the U.S. Congress find a way, through federal statute or a Constitutional Amendment, to secure the right to vote. There is no federal guaranteed right to vote. States have done it. Illinois has a right to vote every… 49 of 50 states have done, everybody except for the State of Arizona. But this is just… urges Congress to take it up on the federal level. I'm happy to answer any questions. And I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Buckner moves for the adoption of House Resolution Joint… House Joint Resolution 34. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote… say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. The voting is open. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. House Joint Resolution 35, offered by Sosnowski. Representative Sosnowski."

"Representative Sosnowski moves for the adoption of House Resolution… House Joint Resolution 35. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have 10200045.docx 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 113 'ayes', 0 'nays', voting… 0 voting 'present'. And this Resolution, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby adopted. House Joint Resolution 39, Representative Meier. Representative Meier, please proceed."

"Representative Meier moves for the adoption of House… House Joint Resolution 39. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 113 'ayes', 0 'nays', voting present… 0 voting 'present'. And this Resolution, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby adopted. House Joint Resolution 40, offered by Representative Meier. Representative Meier."

"Representative Meier moves for the adoption of House Resolution… House Joint Resolution 40. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 113 'ayes', 0 'nays', 0 voting 'present'. And this Resolution, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby adopted. House Joint Resolution 41, offered by Representative Marron. Representative Marron is recognized on an Amendment. Please proceed."

"Representative Marron moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1. All those in favor say 'aye'; those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"Representative Marron, please proceed with House Joint Resolution 41." 10200045.docx 105  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Representative Marron moves for the adoption of House Joint Resolution 43. All in favor vote 'aye'… 41. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 110 'ayes', 0 voting 'nays', 0 voting 'present'. And this Resolution, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby adopted. House Joint Resolution 42, offered by Representative Windhorst. Please proceed."

"The Body shall take a moment of silence. Thank you, Members. Representative Swanson."

"Representative Windhorst moves for the adoption of House Joint Resolution 42. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 112 'ayes', 0 'nays', 0 voting 'present'. And this Resolution, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby adopted. House Joint Resolution 43, offered by Representative Ammons. Clerk, out of the record. House Joint Resolution 44, Leader Durkin, presented by Representative Bennett. Representative Bennett, please proceed." 10200045.docx 107  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Leader Bennett moves for the adoption of House Joint Resolution 44. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. House Joint Resolution 45, offered by Leader Mazzochi. Leader Mazzochi, please proceed."

"Leader Mazzochi moves for the adoption of House Joint Resolution 45. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. House Joint Resolution 46, offered by Leader Welter. Leader Welter, please proceed."

"Leader Welter moves for the adoption of House Joint Resolution 46. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 112 'ayes', 0 'nays', 0 'present'. And this Resolution, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby adopted. House Joint Resolution 47, offered by Leader Welter. Leader Welter, please proceed."

"Leader Welter moves for adoption of House Joint Resolution 47. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 108 'ayes', 0 'nays', 0 voting 'present'. And this Resolution, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby… is hereby adopted. House Joint Resolution (sic-House Resolution) 226, offered by Representative Sosnowski. It's Resolution 226. Representative Sosnowski, please proceed."

"Leader Batinick is recognized."

"It would be a voice vote."

"Your wish is granted too."

"Representative Ford is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates he will."

"Thank you. Representative, I join you today on one accord, and that is that people that struggle to get their unemployment, they should get it. And I stand with you because our office have been inundated with calls. But I do know that the Governor has asked for an increase to make sure that the department, when it opens, it could be efficient and it could provide all of the support needed to have a highly effective office. And so, my question to you is would you support revenue in a budget to do exactly that?"

"Well, it seems to me that some Representatives, regardless to the Party that they are affiliated with, thinks that this state runs just on air. But it actually takes money. It actually takes revenue. And I think that when we negotiate the budget and we have an opportunity to vote to make sure that our state agencies run, I urge you to support the budget and the revenue enhancements to make sure that we're able to do that. Or even closing some loopholes to make sure that it's possible to do exactly what this Resolution is calling for. I still support your Resolution because I also support closing loopholes to make sure that we can support the Department of Employment Security. Thank you."

"Representative Luft is recognized."

"Representative Murphy."

"Representative Halbrook."

"Representative McCombie is recognized."

"Indicates he will." 10200045.docx 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Representative Sosnowski moves for the adoption of House Resolution 226. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 108 'ayes', 0 'nays', 0 voting… 1 voting 'present'. And this Resolution, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby adopted. House resolution 263, offered by Representative Ford. Out of the record. House Resolution 266, offered by Representative Greenwood. Representative Greenwood is recognized to present Floor Amendment 2."

"Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the General Assembly. The Floor Amendment just makes some technical language changes to the Resolution."

"Representative Greenwood moves adoption of Floor Amendment 2. All those in favor say 'aye'; those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"Representative Greenwood." 10200045.docx 114  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Thank you, again. This Resolution was an initiative of Kate Wexel, who's a high school junior at O'Fallon High School in my district. And I ask for your support. Thank you."

"Representative… Representative Greenwood moves for the adoption of House Resolution 266. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. House Resolution 270, offered by Representative Hirschauer. Representative Hirschauer."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Resolution 270 is a Resolution to urge the Bank on Commission, under the leadership of the Comptroller, to lead a task force to identify recommendations to improve the financial literacy outcomes of students enrolled in two or four year public colleges and universities in Illinois. I'd like to thank the Office of the Comptroller for their leadership on this issue. And ask for an 'aye' vote."

Speaker Andrade: "Representative Hirschauer moves for the adoption of House Resolution 270. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. House Resolution… Resolution 275, offered by Leader Flowers. Leader Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Resolution 275… on June 17, 1971, President Richard Nixon declared drug abuse as public enemy number one in the United States and launched a failed, costly, and inhumane all-out offensive war on drugs. This war would prove to be the United State's longest and costly war, and 10200045.docx 115  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 ultimately a complete and shameful war. And in 1994… I'm sorry. In January of 1972, President Nixon created the Office of Drug Abuse Law Enforcement to wage a government war on otherwise peaceful and innocent Americans who voluntarily chose to ingest plants, weed, and other intoxin forbidden by the government. In July of 1973, that office was consolidated, along with other federal drug agencies, into a newly established Drug Enforcement Administration, DEA, as a new super agency to handle all aspect of the War on Drugs. In 1994, President Nixon, counsel, and his assistant for domestic affairs John Ehrlichman revealed that the real enemies of the Nixon administration were not drug abusers but they were the anti-war left and black Americans. He noted that the war on drugs was actually designed as a evil, deceptive, sinister policy to wage a war on two groups of people. John Ehrlichman claimed 'we knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war on blacks, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroine, and then criticizing them heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the War on Drugs? Of course we did', he said. Finally, Ladies and Gentleman, the purpose of House Resolution 275 is to acknowledge the fact that the War on Drugs was proven to be costly, a failed disaster that shamefully affected some of America's most vulnerable populations. And that we will recognize the shameful and the discriminatory War on Drugs 10200045.docx 116  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 and the pain that it has cost the people in America. Thank you very much. And I urge for the adoption. Thank you."

"Leader Batinick is recognized."

"Today I'm in a good mood, so you can proceed."

"Your request has been acknowledged."

"Leader Mazzochi is recognized."

"Representative Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates she will."

"Leader Flowers, I want to thank you for this Resolution because it raises the awareness, I think, to a issue that has 10200045.docx 117  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 impacted, I guarantee you, everyone's family in this Body. I've had people in my family die from heroin overdose. I have people in my family, right now, suffering from a substance use disorder. And it's very, very difficult for people to overcome a drug addiction. And when I looked at the date that this so-called War on Drugs… that this so-called War on Drugs took place, it was the same year that I was born, just a year… a month before. So, January 1972. I was born February 1972. And since then, I've seen how the community that I live in, Austin, have people coming from all over the state, literally, to buy heroin. Whether their black, white, Hispanic, they come to the black communities to buy heroin. And so, I think this Resolution should tug at our conscience and we should join together to figure out how we can urge the Governor of this state to cut the flow of illegal drugs from our borders… to cut the flow of illegal drugs from the borders and keep them from entering the State of Illinois. It's very, very painful to see how heroin and other drugs destroy families. And to have a discussion about… this is important because I think that it gives us all an opportunity to reflect and figure out how we can stand against drugs coming into our communities and destroying families. You have a number of… in the Resolution, that speaks to $51 billion annually being spent to do what, Leader Flowers?"

"To hurt poor people, Latin and African American."

"The $51 billion annually, to… to do what in the country? Constantly to…"

"I'm sorry, Representative. I lost your…" 10200045.docx 118  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"The drug policy alliance estimates that they're… that the United States spends $51 billion annually on the War on Drugs. So, I just hope that the Governor is listening to this Resolution and… and all of the people here, and we do everything that we can to figure out how we could protect families. Because even when we have people coming to the West Side of Chicago, I know that that means that people from the suburbs are hurting from substance use disorder and we should do something. We shouldn’t stand idly by and allow people to suffer and die from drug overdose. So, thank you for the Resolution."

"Thank you."

"Leader Flowers moves for the adoption of House Resolution… yes, Leader Flowers, please proceed."

"I need to make a point of clarification. To the Lady on the other side of the aisle that spoke of the misquote, I just want to bring to the Member's attention the Congressional Bill of the 115th Congressional Office, from the U.S. Government Publishing Office, House Resolution 933. And it says, 'The War on Drugs was admitted to be a move by the Nixon administration to attack his political opponents, and in 1994, President Richard Nixon's aide John Ehrlichman admitted in an interview that the War on Drugs was a tool to arrest and manipulate black and liberals, stating that, 'We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or blacks, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with the marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt this community. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up 10200045.docx 119  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 their meetings, vilify them night after night on the national news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.' Ladies and Gentlemen, I'll be more than happy to share with you this Resolution from the Congressional Record. I would appreciate an 'aye' vote on this Resolution. Thank you."

"Leader Flowers moves for the adoption of House Resolution 275. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 59 'ayes', 33 'nays', 0 'present'. And this Resolution, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby adopted. House Resolution 281, offered by Representative Haas."

"Representative Haas, proceed."

"Representative Haas moves for the adoption of House Resolution 281. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. House Resolution 286, offered by Representative Kifowit. Out of the record. House Resolution 293, offered by Representative Gonzalez. Representative Gonzalez, please proceed."

"House Resolution 293 urges the Governor to sign into a Multi-State MOU so that by 2030 30 percent of new truck sales or heavy duty vehicles are zero-omission, and by 2050, 100 percent. So, I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Gonzalez moves for the adoption of House Resolution 293. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 68 'ayes', 39 'nays', 0 voting 'present'. And this Resolution, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby adopted. Under the Second Reading, on page 2, House Bill 30… House Bill 1091, offered by Representative Hirschauer. Please read the Bill. Mr. Clerk, please take the… Mr. Clerk, please return this Bill to the Second Order."

"Representative Willis on the Amendment."

"The Amendment becomes the Bill, and I would prefer that we can debate it once it's adopted. It's a gut and replace."

"Representative Wheeler on the Amendment."

"Representative Willis moves the adoption of Floor Amendment #1. All those in favor say 'aye'; those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Hirschauer."

"All right. Thank you, Mr. Speaker and fellow Members. You know, one of my favorite aspects of this new job is learning things on the fly, and I have learned a lot today. And I thank you for your indulgence. There is nothing more important to us, here in this Body, as the health and safety of all Illinoisans, and I am honored to bring HB1090 (sic- HB1091) before you again today. The second time's a charm. With your indulgence, I would like to touch on the few points that I made earlier, because they are important aspects of this Bill. This Bill passed through the House back in 2019. Many of my colleagues in here voted for it then. It is a good Bill that has been made even better with recommendations from the Illinois State Police to address our overloaded FOID system. Efficiencies in this Bill will go a long way in truly 10200045.docx 122  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 fixing the FOID for law-abiding gun owners. Here's some things that it does. It creates the option of an electronic FOID card, allowing folks to have a copy on their phones and available at all times. It allows for automatic renewals of your FOID card when your CCL is renewed. It allows for renewals of CCL and FOID cards on the same calendar year, and it gives the authority to ISP to issue one card for your FOID and your CCL. It also allows for automatic renewal of your FOID card when you buy a gun and go through the background check process using the FTIP system. These are good changes to the law that would allow ISP to be more efficient. This Bill also allows applicants to use fingerprints that are already on file with ISP, which streamlines the process for hundreds of Illinoisans who work in professions that already mandate fingerprints from a certified vendor. This Bill also creates a permanent FOID appeals board that will specifically hear issues on denials and revocations. Again, those are some positive changes, approved by the Illinois State Police, that will help fix a broken system and, in turn, help folks in each our districts. Equally important to me, and I'm sure to all of you, are the ways in which this Bill will work to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people. Please indulge me, again, as I share a story from outside my district. On February 15, 2019, just a few miles outside of my district in Aurora, there was a mass shooting at the Henry Pratt Company, which killed six people, including the shooter, and injured six more, including five members of law enforcement. The shooter, who had a conviction for a felony aggravated assault in Mississippi, was not legally allowed to own a gun in 10200045.docx 123  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 Illinois. But he lied on his FOID application. His felony conviction was not detected until he submitted a fingerprint for his CCL. But by that time, it was too late. Law enforcement did not have the resources necessary to revoke his FOID card and his gun, which he kept, and then used in a mass shooting. The effects of which are still echoing throughout our community. This Bill, HB1091, will make it harder for dangerous people, like the Henry Pratt shooter, to access deadly weapons by requiring a fingerprint for a firearm owner ID card. That way, we can quickly identify and accurately identify gun purchasers. This Bill will also require action by the Illinois State Police to remove guns once a FOID card is revoked. Also important is it will close the person-to-person background check loophole. Closing this loophole and requiring background checks on all gun sales can significantly reduce the number of guns that enter the illegal market. Guns purchased from unlicensed sellers are an important source of guns diverted to the illegal market, which we all recognize in this Body as a huge contributing factor to gun violence in Illinois. Also important, this Bill funds the communities most impacted by gun violence through investing in concealed carry fees and mental health services. Gun violence is a multifaceted and complex issue that must be addressed on all fronts. From supporting law enforcement with the tools and technology they need to solve gun crimes and track illegally trafficked guns, to funding mental health and community-based violence intervention programs and education. This Bill is not a magic fix for the gun violence that plagues our state and our nation. It is, however, a crucially 10200045.docx 124  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 important step that we, as Legislators, can take right now to prevent mass tragedies and everyday gun violence and keep firearms out of the hands of dangerous people. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Leader Wheeler is recognized."

"Indicates she will."

"Leader Wheeler has requested a verification on the vote. All Members will vote their own switches and will be at their chairs. Leader Wheeler."

"She indicates she will."

"Yes, that's correct."

"It would require fingerprinting… thanks for the moment. It will require one-time fingerprinting. So, if 10200045.docx 125  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 you're a new applicant, you'll get a fingerprint when you're new. If you already have a FOID card and haven’t submitted a fingerprint, you would submit a fingerprint on your reapplication."

"I don’t know that exact answer."

"A ballpark figure right now… in a conversation I had with ISP, there's around 2.2 million applications out there right now."

"Can you repeat the last part? Can you repeat your question?"

"Well, Leader, in this Bill, it allows for folks who already have a fingerprint on file… about 30 percent of folks in the State of Illinois have a job where they are required to have a fingerprint, and those folks are already taken care of. So, we believe that makes a big dent in that number."

"Leader, that is correct. In this Bill, that is the correct language. However, on the floor right now, I can say that will be negotiated back down to a $10 fee for 10 years in the Senate."

"Again, I am testifying to that here on the floor, on the record, that that will be fixed in the Senate."

"Forgive me, Leader. Could you repeat that?"

"Yes."

"Leader, we are working through conversations with our Senate Sponsors, and we have included ISP language on efficiencies they requested in the FOID card system. We are both trying to fix the system and address a public health issue."

"Leader Keicher has… Leader Wheeler, Leader Keicher has yielded his time to you."

"The Illinois State Police has not taken a position on this Bill. They're neutral."

"No. I am not aware of a deal. There is no deal. Conversations are being had, but I don’t think deal is the correct way to phrase it."

"With respect, that Bill is with the state police. It is not with the advocates that have worked tirelessly on this issue for three, four years."

"No."

"I don’t understand. It feels as though we're playing a game of telephone, Leader. I am here to speak to this Bill, House Bill 1091."

"I did not, in my opening, ever say that this Bill was agreed."

"And I am here presenting House Bill 1091. Happy to answer questions on that."

"Representative Willis is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates she will."

"As I go forward, as many of you know, I was the original Sponsor of this Bill. And I am proud of the work that we've done on this, and I continue to be proud of the work that's being done on the Bill. And I am happy to turn the reins over to Representative Hirschauer. Representative, when I asked you to take over the final stretch on this Bill, what did I tell you?"

"You got this."

"You got this. That's right. I told you, you got this. And I did that… to the Bill. I did that because Representative Hirschauer has a strong history of working on anti-gun violence Bills. She knows this Bill. She was part of the advocates before she came to this chamber. To address some of the points that my colleague on the other side of the aisle said about an agreed Bill in the Senate, there is no agreed Bill in the Senate. I think it's fair to say that when we talk about gun violence issues, that it's very rarely that we end up with agreed Bills. We just fundamentally think differently on how to go about doing that. But I will say that there are negotiations continuing on this Bill. We are working with the Senate Sponsor. Representative Hirschauer has stated a couple of things that we've totally agreed upon 10200045.docx 131  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 that will be changed. That is bringing this back to a 10-year term, bringing the fee back to $10. Those are things that we're… know we're going to agree. There are a couple of other issues that I think some of my other colleagues will be bringing up forward that we are continuing those conversations on. As to the fact if someone's going to bring a lawsuit forward on the FOID card, that's already happening. We're already hearing that from the people that believe in the Second Amendment that that’s the law of the land, that FOID cards are unconstitutional. This isn’t going to change their thoughts. What this is going to do is, it's going to stop people right at the very beginning that should not be getting those FOID cards, that should not have access to guns at the very beginning. If we can verify who they are to a national database through a fingerprint, we're going to be able to do that. We're seeing fingerprints done for so many things right now. We also have worked with the state police. They are willing to look in any place that we can find fingerprints already on file. If you are a teacher, you have fingerprints on file. If you are a lawyer, you have fingerprints on file. There are plenty of other jobs that you may have your fingerprints already on file for that you would not have to redo this. That is why we are trying to work together to make this the best Bill possible, to make sure that we can cut those things in the very beginning. If we don’t have… if you don’t get your FOID card, you don’t get your guns in the beginning, the chance of having to do revocations is that much less. That much less of having guns get in the wrong people's hands. That is what we're trying to 10200045.docx 132  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 do with this. So, I want to just stress to the Body, I have the upmost confidence that our… my fellow Rep will bring this to the finish line. I am working with her on this. She knows this Bill as well as I do. But I am going to continue to be actively involved as we work with the Senate on the final version. It will be coming back for a concurrence because I totally anticipate changes happening. And I urge everybody in this Body to have faith in us that we're going to get to a good point and cut down on the shootings that we're constantly hearing about in many of our neighborhoods. Thank you so much for your support."

"Representative Caulkins."

"She indicates she will."

"Yes, it has."

"I believe it was partisan leave, but we will check on that."

"Sorry. Sorry, could you repeat that?"

"There were witness slips filed for and against, yes."

"I don’t have the exact numbers before me right now. I can tell you the proponents. I can read off the proponents and the opponents that I have in my analysis right now."

"Okay. Give me a moment."

"I'm literally counting names right now. So, would you like me to continue?"

"Okay."

"I believe it is funded by the FOID fees, but I will look it up."

"Representative, there are many intents to this Bill. One is efficiencies in the FOID card systems. The other is to address a public safety crisis. And as evidenced by the mass shooting in Aurora, the Illinois State Police needs resources to be able to go out into the community to revocate firearms and FOID cards when they are made aware that someone has broken the law. That is what that task force is for."

"Gun violence in this country and in the State of Illinois is an epidemic. As I stated in my opening, this is one piece of a puzzle, Representative, that… that we, as a Body, need to come together to solve."

"The piece of the puzzle you are referencing…"

"Representative, I don’t have numbers for that."

"I will take the opportunity to point out that another facet of gun violence is intimate partner gun violence or domestic violence using a firearm. And in those instances, in many cases, those folks have FOID cards."

"I believe that is… will be taken care of by the Illinois State Police." 10200045.docx 135  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"I'm glad you pointed that out, Representative, because it actually speaks to one of the issues you just brought up. Person-to-person background… person-to-person gun sales that are left unchecked lead to illegally trafficked guns on the street. So, that is one way in this Bill that we are attempting to solve a very large problem. If I wanted to sell you my gun, you and I would go to a federally licensed gun shop. They would perform a background check and hold the gun there, if necessary, if they needed to. And then, when your background check came out clean, you would get your gun."

"Representative Caulkins, would you bring your remarks to a close? Representative Reick has yielded his time."

"Again, Representative…"

"I'm pleased that we are discussing this on the House Floor, because it shows me that this whole Body is committed to examining different ways in which this state can curve that kind of gun violence. That is not what we are speaking 10200045.docx 136  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 of in this Bill right now, but I am happy to work with you on that."

"I do believe that's in the Bill, if you give me one minute."

"That is correct."

"We trust the Secretary of State."

"I have every faith in…"

"…our Secretary of State." 10200045.docx 137  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Please proceed."

"Representative Cassidy."

"Question of the Sponsor."

"Indicates she'll yield."

"Representative Hirschauer, as you know… thank you. Representative Hirschauer, as you know, this is an area that 10200045.docx 138  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 I've spent a lot of time on as well, just as Representative Willis and Representative Stoneback. So, I… I thank you for all the hard work that you all have put into this. I just have a quick question. Is there anything in the Bill that is before us that impacts medical cannabis patients?"

"Thank you for that question. Representative, as we discussed, in the person-to-person background check that is done at the federal level, there is an impact to folks who have to indicate whether or not they use cannabis, and we have discussed this. And as you know, you have my commitment to work on this with the Senate Sponsor to address the issues because the intent of this Bill is not to disenfranchise folks from their Second Amendment rights. The intent is to really keep firearms out of the hands of dangerous criminals."

"Thank you for that commitment. I appreciate that. I will say that when we began the medical cannabis program and our prior administrations sent out revocation letters to patients all over the state because of their use of medical cannabis, I sought the support of folks on the other side of the aisle to help retain the rights of those… those cannabis patients. I sought the support of the National Rifle Association lobbyists. I sought the support of the State Rifle Association lobbyists. And I got crickets. So, I thank you, in spite of our strongly held feelings about ensuring that we keep illegal weapons off of our streets, for also acknowledging that we have to protect the rights of lawful gun owners who are also medical cannabis patients. Thank you."

"Representative Swanson." 10200045.docx 139  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Representative Buckner."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield, please?"

"Yes, she will yield."

"Representative Hirschauer, I first want to thank you for bringing this. Thank you, Representative Willis, for all your work and your commitment to making this a better Bill. A couple things I want to clarify, just in terms of legislative intent and what we can expect if this Bill does move on to the next chamber. In 2019, I believe, I spoke a little bit about my reticence with this original Bill because I felt that it might unintentionally create a class of citizens that, based on their financial situation, wouldn’t be able to legally own a firearm in the state. Have you guys done work to address some of the fee questions that were out there earlier?" 10200045.docx 141  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Thank you, Chairman Buckner, for those questions. Yes, there has been work done on this Bill to cap the fingerprinting fee at $30. Quite often, those fees can range as high as 75, and we have made strong progress in capping it at 30. And also, as I have stated and I'm happy to state again, I know on this Bill it is at a $20 fee for 5 years. At the Senate, it will be a $10 fee for 10 years."

"Thank you for that. I also spoke to you a little bit about a section in this Bill that talks about revocation of FOID card and firearms for Illinoisans who have been indicted for a felony. Once again, that's indicted, not convicted. Am I correct that this is something that will be addressed in the Senate and as this Bill… as we move through this Bill? As we do not intend to have, say someone who was accused, just accused of stealing a pair of shoes from a store that are valued at $500… $501, right? Which is a felony in Illinois, which is also something we need to work on. But we don’t intend to have that person without being… being charged but not convicted to have their FOID card revoked and to be required to surrender their firearms. Is that correct?"

"That is correct, Chairman. The intent of this Bill, again, is not disenfranchisement. And we are working very hard to make that a reality in the Senate."

"Okay. Thank you very much for your work on this. And I look forward to continuing to try to perfect this legislation. Based on all the work that you've done, I'm extremely enthusiastic to be supportive of it today. Thank you."

"Thank you."

"Representative Davidsmeyer." 10200045.docx 142  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"The record will reflect that."

"Representative McCombie."

"Indicates she will." 10200045.docx 143  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Not in this Bill, Representative."

"No, not in this Bill."

"I do not."

"Not in… I do not."

"First, I would need to apply for a FOID card. I do not have one."

"Between you and I?"

"Yes."

"I am not familiar with the process."

"The private sales portion of this Bill, the universal… the universal background check portion of this Bill closes a loophole. So, I guess… right now, if you were sell me a gun, you wouldn’t have to do a background check on me."

"It puts a check and a balance, Representative, to make sure that all folks do that."

"I'm sorry, if you're not going to do it… repeat that…" 10200045.docx 145  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Representative McCombie, our job in this Body is… is to create legislation and… in the hope and the ideal that folks will follow it. And that is what I am doing. I am creating… we, here…"

"Right now, Representative McCombie, if you wanted to sell me a gun and you checked to see if I had FOID card, it's not a complete history of my FOID card. You don’t have the ability to see if it has been revoked, if it has been flagged. If you go to a legal gun shop, then you would be able to see that. So, it would save you, Representative McCombie, from selling a gun to a dangerous person like myself."

"Again, it is a check and a balance to make sure that the process is being followed, that no one is quickly flashing a FOID card. We are… we are just trying to make the laws safer for people."

"Leader McCombie, your time has expired. Will someone yield their time? Representative Stephens yields you time."

"The cap on the… I'm sorry… the background check charge or the fingerprint charge?"

"Oh, yes."

"I don’t believe so."

"Not that I know of. It's a service."

"Representative Manley."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates she will."

"Representative, I have a couple questions for you, and I want to make sure that everybody is listening to this on the record. I told you I was going to ask you these questions, and I hope everybody takes note. When the Bill leaves this chamber, as I… I'm sure it will, and gets to the Senate, are there going to be Amendments brought? And then will the Bill come back on concurrence?"

"Yes, Leader. That's correct."

"Okay. So, can you point to some of things that are… you've committed to changing and not concurring with if they don’t come back in their entirety?"

"Yes, Leader. I am committed to changing the fee and the duration of the FOID card from $20 to 5 years, back down to $10 in 10 years. We are committed to adding a public defender to the FOID review board. And we are committed to changing the appeals decision time on FOID revocation review board. Those are the things we've agreed to so far."

"Okay. So, right now, how much does it cost for a FOID card? What's the fee?"

"Currently, it cost $10."

"Okay. In the Bill though, it says what?" 10200045.docx 148  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"The Bill says $20."

"Okay. And we're going to roll that back to $10 in the Senate? When it comes back here, that’s what we're going to be concurring with, right?"

"Correct."

"And also, the renewal is 5 years, but you're going to move that to 10 years."

"Correct."

"So, we're voting on $20 in 5 years, but when it comes back we're going to get 10 for 10?"

"Yes."

"Okay. Talk about the fingerprints a little bit. And… and I just want… it's hard to listen to people saying that… that this Bill won't do anything and it's a gun grab. Because I want you to explain to everybody in this chamber what would have happened if the fingerprinting part of your Bill was in place that… before the Aurora shooting. And I know… somebody said, oh, it's sad. Well, no, it's not just sad. It's tragic and awful. And I commend you for trying to fix. And if it's the only thing that’s fixed, if that’s the only thing that happens because we brought this legislation, then it was a success. So, please explain to the people that are… are saddened by the killing in Aurora but don’t think that this would fix it. Can you tell them how this would have made a difference?"

"Absolutely, Leader. Thank you for that question. If the Henry Pratt shooter had had to have a finger… a mandated fingerprint for his FOID card, it would've been a comprehensive and complete background check that would have 10200045.docx 149  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 caught the aggravated felony charge that he had in Mississippi and he would have never have gotten a FOID card or a gun."

"I'm sorry. Did you say that, if the fingerprinting component of this Bill had been in place, that those people might not be dead today?"

"Absolutely. There would be six people alive and five uninjured law enforcement."

"So, I'm really… I don’t understand why that's a bad thing you guys. I don’t understand. We could've saved… how many people died there, Maura?"

"Six."

"Six people would be alive today. I think their families are probably feeling a little bit more than sad. Let's get some of this right. It's a piece of a puzzle. She has explained it. She has made it a commitment to coming back to this chamber with a more amenable term… renewal term and better… lower fees. She's working with you. She's working with you. I don’t know one Bill that's come out of this chamber that's been perfect, but there are pieces of this Bill that work and would make a difference. I recommend an 'aye' vote."

"Leader Hammond."

"Representative Luft."

"She indicates she will." 10200045.docx 151  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Thank you for that question, Representative. In the negotiations in the Senate, the fees that go to DNR will go back to ISP, and that line item will be taken care of in the budget for DNR."

"I'm not sure I understand."

"It will come from somewhere else. That's correct."

"That is being negotiated in the Senate."

"In the Bill, Sir, it states that the fingerprints must be transmitted through a live scan fingerprint vendor licensed by the Department of Financial and Professional Regulations."

"It is, Sir. It is written in the Bill that it will be capped at $30."

"The cap…"

"The cap at $30 breaks down a barrier and makes this accessible, which is something that folks on your side have spoken to." 10200045.docx 153  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"You're asking me that question? Yeah."

"This fee cap has been negotiated by licensed fingerprint dealers, and it is supported by them."

"Representative Luft, you're out of time."

"Representative Weber. Leader Weber."

"She indicates she will."

"Sir, I'm here to answer any questions on House Bill 1091."

"That is not what I said, Sir."

"Representative Windhorst."

"She indicates she will."

"I do, Second Amendment." 10200045.docx 155  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"The government can restrict certain constitutional rights for public safety purposes, and this is a compelling reason. The gun violence epidemic in this country is a compelling reason for that."

"Could you tell me?"

"Thank you. We… you’re the lawyer, so…"

"I also appreciate the discussions we've had on this issue. And again, you know where I'm coming from, that this is a public health crisis and we do a lot of things as a society for the good of public safety. I believe that this is one." 10200045.docx 156  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"I do."

"The changes I have spoken to on the floor have been cleared with my Senate Sponsor."

"That’s a hypothetical."

"I understand the frustration I hear from you. I'm new here, as everyone knows, but I, too, have seen how that happens a lot. However, I am working very closely with my Senate Sponsor, and I have every confidence that it will be amended in the Senate." 10200045.docx 157  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Yes. We would request an Amendatory Veto."

"I did not."

"I did not. I will let you know I advocated for this Bill as a member of Moms Demand Action in 2019. So, while I have not been presenting and working on it as Representative Willis has, it is a very important piece of legislation that I am invested in."

"Representative Windhorst, your time is up. Representative Severin has yielded his time."

"I do fully agree with that. We have worked hard with ISP on these efficiencies in the Bill, and we recognize that 10200045.docx 158  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 the five-year limit, kind of, makes those efficiencies moot. You know? So, it is important to ISP and to us that we amend the Bill to $10 in 10 years."

"Representative Niemerg."

"Representative Meier."

"Representative Reick, please proceed."

"Representative Mason."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates she will."

"Thank you. A lot of people in this Body may not know this about me, but I am a current FOID card holder. I come from a family with a long history of hunting and fishing. And I believe in the Second Amendment. Representative, will this legislation prevent me, as a legal FOID card holder, from owning a gun or purchasing guns?"

"It will not, Representative."

"It won't… it won't stop my constitutional right to owning a firearm in any way?"

"It will not."

"Thank you. Representative, we have been assisting in my district office with hundreds of individuals who have current FOID card issues. As a Democrat, I know that many of the other Democrats on this side of the aisle have been doing the same. Does this legislation include items that will increase efficiencies to help those people who are deserving of FOID cards get those FOID cards in a faster manner?"

"It absolutely does, Representative. Thank you for that question. It's language provided by ISP, which I outlined 10200045.docx 163  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 in my opening. But I'll just do a view quick hits for you. You know, it allows automatic FOID renewals with an FTIP. It allows you to automatically renew your FOID when your CCL is renewed. And it does that nifty electronic FOID card, which would be good for everybody, among other things."

"Thank you, Representative. I know people in my district will appreciate that. Representative, is the Bill that's currently in the Senate an agreed Bill?"

"Thank you for that question again. It is not an agreed Bill. The Bill that is in the Senate is not agreed to by the advocates who have worked tirelessly on this issue for years. This reflects the work of advocates along with language requested from ISP in this Bill."

"Thank you. Representative, I heard some folks question the costs associated in this Bill. So, you're telling me that you have an understanding that this will cost folks $10 for a 10-year FOID card?"

"That is correct."

"And $30 for a fingerprinting fee?"

"Yes, a one-time fingerprinting fee."

"Okay, very good. I know that even a small box of ammunition cost 34… 30 to 50 bucks. And for those who are hunting for food, the cost of getting a deer processed starts at about a $120. So, that doesn’t seem unreasonable to me, does it, Representative?"

"I would agree with that."

"Thank you. You know, folks are… as I drive here, speeding down Route 55, and I see it all the time, even those without legislative plates. Did that stop us from implementing 10200045.docx 164  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 Scott's Law to have people slow down, even though we know people will keep speeding?"

"It did not because it is a public safety measure."

"Thank you, Representative. And finally, we know that domestic violence is at epidemic proportions and it continues despite, of course, being illegal, including the domestic violence situation that killed Officer Oberheim the other day and injured his partner. Do we stop that from pursuing domestic violence legislation, even though we know people will break those laws and need to be held accountable?"

"Absolutely not because our one job is to keep Illinoisans safe."

"Absolutely. To the Bill. Folks, this is something that is going to help keep us safer. It is not going to product… protect people… or not going to prevent people from exercising their Second Amendment rights. We cannot stand down because people are going to break the law. This is a huge puzzle and this is a piece of it. We need to have strong legislation, and then we need to also work with our law enforcement partners to ensure that these things are implemented. So, I thank you. I know how hard you've been working for years on this before your time in the Legislature. And I urge everyone to vote 'yes'."

"Representative Stoneback."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Does the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates she will."

"Thank you. I've been listening to this robust debate for the past, I believe, more than an hour. And I'd like to respond to some of the comments that I've been hearing. The 10200045.docx 165  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 first one is extremely disturbing to me. So, this Bill was referenced by one of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle as a piece of garbage. A piece of garbage. I'm sorry, but is this the way we treat each other in the Illinois House of Representatives? Is that a show of respect, even if we agree to disagree? We agree to disagree every single day. We will not see eye to eye, possibly on this issue, and on many other issues. But I would ask for respect for the advocates, for the current Bill Sponsor, for the former Bill Sponsor, for all of the work that has been done on this Bill. And it is a tremendous amount of work, hours and hours. And I want to thank the Bill Sponsor for all of her hard work, and the previous Sponsor for all of her hard work, all of the advocates, and the Illinois State Police. We've… we've heard many comments about how the Illinois State Police needs and wants improved efficiencies to our flawed FOID system. And this Bill will, it's been acknowledged by many, improve those efficiencies. But I also want to speak to the multiple comments about law-abiding gun owners shouldn’t have to do this because we're all law-abiding. Now, someone mentioned straw purchasers. Representative Hirschauer, are you familiar with straw purchases?"

"Yes."

"And can you explain, briefly, what a straw purchase is."

"A person who buys guns legally and then sells them illegally to a person without a FOID card."

"There have been many comments here. Oh, it's not us law-abiding gun owners that… FOID card holders that are… that 10200045.docx 166  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 are committing the crimes. It's… it's people with illegally trafficked guns. Yeah. Many times, that’s right. But straw purchasers actually have a FOID card, and they purchase, using their FOID card illegally, and then resale those guns or pass them illegally to someone who is not able to obtain a gun. This is something that we have to stop, and this Bill would help that. So, not everybody who is a valid FOID card holder is law-abiding. I also want to reiterate the situations of domestic violence. So, in situations of domestic violence, the presence of a gun increases the chances of gun homicide by 500 percent. In many times, if there is a domestic violence suicide or suicide and gun homicide in a family situation, that person is a legal gun owner, is a law-abiding… up until that very moment, was a law-abiding gun owner. And then something happened. There was a domestic fight. They lost their job. They were getting a divorce. So, not everybody who has a valid FOID card ends up being a law-abiding gun owner. I also want to talk about… a little bit about revocations. Representative Hirschauer, you mentioned the Aurora shooting. In that situation, the shooter in Aurora did have a FOID card. Is that correct?"

"That is correct."

"And was that FOID card revoked?"

"It was not. A letter… I believe a letter was sent and went unanswered."

"The validity was… the validity of the FOID card was revoked but the firearm was never removed. Is that right?"

"Correct." 10200045.docx 167  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"And would this Bill assist in that revocation process?"

"It does. It creates the Violent Crimes Task Force whose main job would be to safely go out into the community and address FOID revocations."

"Is that an important part of the Bill?"

"It is a critical part of the Bill, a critical piece of the large puzzle that we have all been talking about in addressing the epidemic of gun violence."

"So, now that we've established that not everyone who has a valid FOID card holder is a law-abiding gun owner… actually, I will throw out there. I know it's been said there were 2.1 million people in Illinois with FOID cards in 2017, I believe. So…"

Speaker Andrade: "Representative Stoneback, your time has expired. Representative Carroll will yield you his time."

"Thank you. So, there are 2.1 million FOID card holders in 2017. And in that year alone… actually, in 2016. In a single year, 11 thousand people had their FOID cards revoked. And fewer than half actually turned in their firearms or had any sort of documentation as to where their FOID cards and firearms went. So, is… Representative Hirschauer, does this sound like an effective FOID system to you?"

"It does not, which is why we are addressing that issue in this Bill."

"So, I'd just like to say that that is a critical part. There are tens of thousands, currently, FOID card holders who are not law-abiding, who have had their FOID cards revoked. And the Illinois State Police has not had the tools they need 10200045.docx 168  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 in order to be able to dispossess those illegal FOID card holders of their firearms. So, that is critical to our public safety right here, right now, today. So, to the Bill. The Center for Gun Policy and Research of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, they published a report right around the time of the Aurora shooting in February of 2019. The report, which I have right here, is titled Policies to Reduce Gun Violence in Illinois. This report was prepared by professors, researchers with years of experience and expertise in the issue of gun safety policy. The purpose of their report was to provide an overview of current Illinois firearm policies, summarize evidence relevant to policies associated with reductions in gun violence, and provide policy recommendations that Illinois should consider as part of its gun violence prevention reduction efforts. These renown experts used research, data, and… to recommend evidence-based policies to reduce gun violence. At the top of the list was mandatory fingerprinting and a five-year duration. Multiple other recommendations are also addressed in the Bill. And I would also like to say that they recommended in-person background checks, in-person fingerprinting at a law enforcement agency, which is not in this Bill. This is… this Bill could be much stronger. I'd like to read an excerpt from the report. I quote, 'Illinois, arguably, has the weakest of all purchase licensing laws. Illinois' law does not require fingerprint verification for background checks or safety training requirements.' The report goes on to note that, in 2017, gun fire took the life of 1,547 Illinois residents, including 934 homicides and 577 10200045.docx 169  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 suicides. Illinois' firearm homicide rate, 7.3 per 100 thousand population, is higher than all but 5 states. In fact, Illinois some… has some of the highest levels of gun-related crime in the country, taking a devastating toll. From 2008 through 2017, 12,068 people were killed with guns in Illinois. From 2014 through 2018, there were 164 mass shootings in Illinois. A total of 111 people were killed and 669 were injured. Since then, gun violence has seen a dramatic increase. Undoubtedly, pandemic stress has become… has been a contributing factor. I'd also like to say that, very sadly, the burden of gun violence in Illinois falls disproportionately on communities of color. Approximately 75 percent of the state's gun homicide victims are black. However, only 15 percent of the state's population is black. In Illinois, shootings are the leading cause of death for young people. So, you may have seen some of… supporters of the Bill wearing this button. And it says, 'Our one job', and it has a fingerprint on it. Because, as Representative Hirschauer previously mentioned, it's our one job to keep Illinoisans safe from gun violence. So, we need to ask one another, what number of gun deaths, what number of mass shootings, what number of gun suicides are… is going to be the tip of the iceberg? When are we going to say this is enough? Enough people have died from gun violence. I say that this is a critical Bill…"

"Representative, please bring your remarks to a close."

"Yes, I will. This is a critical Bill, not only to improve efficiencies in the FOID system, but it's to protect 10200045.docx 170  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 public safety and prevent firearms from falling into the hands of those who should not have them. As Legislators, we have a responsibility to fix our flawed FOID system and stop criminals from getting easy access to guns. This is something we can and must do, right here, right now, today. It's been more than two years since the Aurora shooting, and the public has been waiting for the Illinois Legislature to act. We can't just keep sending thoughts and prayers. We have many moments silence in this Body, and I would strongly urge every one of my colleagues here to honor the victims of the Aurora shooting and all victims of gun violence with…"

"Please bring your remarks to a close."

"…an 'aye' vote. Thank you. I strongly urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Tarver."

"Thank you, Speaker. Representative Hirschauer, first of all, thank you and thank Leader Willis and all the others for all of your hard work. I, unlike Representative Mason, everybody knows that I have… that I'm a firearm person. And like Leader Hammond, I have a couple cards here myself. The reason why most people know that I'm a firearm owner, though, is because I ended up in the newspaper for these two things right here. And I want to be very clear, there's some unintended consequences at times. So, if you will bear with me, I'll do my best on time. November 18 or so, 2019, I picked my daughter up from STEM at school, dropped her off. Went about my business. I ended that night cuffed to a bench for seven hours over this. Except these were valid. That's the key. Okay? And there were six police officers behind me, 10200045.docx 171  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 treated much differently than my predecessors, who is a great one. Barbara, I know you're probably listening, right? But I didn’t get treated like a 77-year-old white woman would in my own district, or anywhere, right? Cuffed to a bench and told I had to take a charge… take a charge. All right? And the only reason… I don’t know if you're aware of this. The only reason I was finally let go… again, we're talking about this. The reason I was finally let go, after being denied phone calls and things like that, was because my sister showed up, who happened also to be a lawyer, at 2:30 in the morning. She also called Kam Buckner 30 times. He didn’t answer. That's a different a story. It's true, all right? And I was able to finally go ahead and get home and go about my business. But now, I have an eight year old, who you all met, and thank you for your patience with her, but she can Google her father and see that I have a mug shot 'cause of this. So, I'm happy, at a minimum, to be combining cards. But I don’t think this goes far enough. And I want to make sure we have a very candid conversation, because I talked to ISP. Several times, I talked to Sergeant Thompson, or Lieutenant Thompson. John Thompsons's his name. Okay? And I told him from the beginning… there was a Bill in Justice Committee as well, email notifications and text messages should be across the board anyway. But I don’t see anything in this Bill that allows for that on the front end. People don’t stay, necessarily, in their homes for 10 years or so. We had that conversation yesterday. That’s why we passed the Supreme Court map, because people don’t stay where they were, necessarily, always. Okay? So, I get a letter at my old address from 10 years ago, and 10200045.docx 172  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 it becomes an issue. I take care of it with the state police. I still get pulled over because the systems not caught up with each other, and I'm screwed. Okay? So, I want a commitment from you to continue to work on this, because I asked Thompson… when I finally said give me the contract for your vendors since you can't seem to do email notifications, he came back and said we can do it. Our vendor can handle it. So, there's nothing to suggest that they can't handle giving notifications before the card expires at 90 days. They can do that, Maura. So, I want your commitment, please. Not just for me, 'cause I have a sister, apparently, who can show up at 2:30 in the morning that's a lawyer, but for the other folks. I've had other Reps reach out to me about people in their districts who have been charged with UUWs, unlawful use of weapons. Felonies because of simple things like this. And I'm sure you know what they look like. That's the first point. The FOID appeal panel. I have some reservation about that. Now, I'm glad that it's not going to be solely in the hands of ISP. That's important to me. But the FOID appeal panel, based on my reading, is primarily made up of former prosecutors, judges, and there is a mental health professional, which I think is important. Would you be willing to work with me to ensure that someone who is maybe a public defender… if we're going to be lawyer heavy, we should be somewhat balanced in that. Would you work with me on that?"

"Absolutely, Representative."

"Okay. That's… that's important to me. Also have an issue with the timing. Now, we talk about law-abiding citizens, I consider myself one until, apparently, Chicago police said 10200045.docx 173  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 that I wasn’t one. Okay? Forty-five days on this FOID review panel, business days, is a long time for somebody to continue to wait when the state has been derelict in issuing licenses anyway. So, I need your commitment to work on something. I can't give you a magic number, but 45 business days is not that number. Will you work with me to reduce that number?"

"Absolutely, Representative."

"I appreciate that. Another thing that seems to be a little bit weird in the language is, there's this 'shall notify' if that panel needs more time of 30 days. What I don’t see is some kind of a backstop. So, what I don’t anticipate, but certainly don’t want to see, is an opportunity to continue to deny somebody a license. You know, if I say 15 times I need 30 days, that’s 450 days. Will you work with me to ensure there's backstop, that you can't just continue to say I need 30 more days?"

"Absolutely, Representative."

"Okay. And I don't want a gun just issued to anybody. I want to make sure that we have that on the backend. Representative Buckner touched on a issue that we both had about the indictment piece, but I want to make sure for a clear record. It's now my understanding… I've been enlightened, thank you, staff… that the indictment piece for any felony is actually federal in nature. And I don't guess, then, we can actually do anything about. Is that your understanding as well?"

"That is also what I was told by staff."

"Okay. So, that's my understanding as well. So, I appreciate you asking staff, and I appreciate staff providing 10200045.docx 174  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 that response. The other thing… give me one second. The other thing that I want to talk about… and I'm not asking you to change this on the Senate side, but I am asking for your help in a trailer Bill, or at least as far as facilitating conversation…"

"Representative Tarver, your time has expired. Representative West yields his time."

"Thank you, Representative West. I'll be very, very brief in this one. So, right now, there's the ability to expedite the process for law enforcement to have their firearms returned to them. Now, again, I'm no expert in this space, but if we're having law-abiding citizens wait 45 business days or whatever it is, I have some concerns about law enforcement. Let's talk about Chicago, where I represent, right? Where they tell State Reps, who are lawyers, you have to take a charge. If a law enforcement officer shoots, I don’t know, somebody unarmed in the back, and in Chicago, they're now on desk duty. I have some concerns about them having their firearm immediately returned to them. Again, I'm not asking you to do anything about that right now, but I want your commitment, as I've been working with you and trying to help you with this, to help me look at that issue. Okay?"

"Yes, Representative. I… the conversations that we have had, I mentioned in my opening how learning on the job has been one of the best parts of this new job for me. And learning about intent of a Bill and how that effects different people around the State of Illinois is so important to the crafting of legislation. And our discussions I take very seriously. And you have my commitment." 10200045.docx 175  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"I appreciate that. And I just want to thank you again for jumping in and taking over. So, I want to thank, again, Leader Willis as well. You all have taken over some very, very difficult… trying to manage a lot of expectations. And I really appreciate all of your hard work. I appreciate your willingness to take a phone call on a Saturday or… well, I guess its Saturday now. But generally, you work hard on your Bill. You've texted me. You've called me. You've taken everything into account. I really appreciate that. I look forward to continuing to work with you. And I appreciate you trusting me to help you with this Bill, and I'm going to trust you to help me with what we discussed going forward. Thank you very much. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Hirschauer to close."

"Wow. It's done. Okay. I wasn’t expecting that. First, there are a few things I want to address that came up from Members on the other side. I cannot state strongly enough that the Bill that is being discussed in the Senate is not an agreed upon Bill. To state so is false. The advocates have not agreed to any language in that Bill. This is a Bill that advocates have agreed on with language from ISP that will both keep our communities safe and help with efficiencies in the FOID card system. The second thing we've spent a lot of time talking about is Amendments in the Senate. As I said, I understand the frustrations people say, people feel, when we say we will amend in the Senate. Again, for the record, I am stating that this Bill, in the Senate, will be amended to a $10 fee in 10 years. And you have my commitment that if it does not come back with that change, then I will request an 10200045.docx 176  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 Amendatory Veto from the Governor. Third, really quickly, I wanted to address something that Mr. Meier brought up. On page 36 of the Bill, it does address family-to-family transfer of firearms. And it's just an easy transfer if you want to transfer to someone in your family. Notify ISP within 60 days, and they'll do the background check. So, that is accounted for in this Bill. I would like to thank each and every person on both sides of the aisle who got up to speak on this issue. I know it is a very emotional issue. And while we may not always agree, I think the one thing that we can agree on, again, is keeping our constituents safe. Gun violence is public health epidemic that plaques our state and our nation. Suicides, intimate partner violence, homicides, police shootings. Gun violence takes many forms, all of them are lethal. This Bill is not about politics. It's about saving lives and building in Illinois where all people are safe. In Illinois, where folks don’t have to be scared of being shot while at work, or going to the park after school, or inside of their school building. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Members, Leader Wheeler… Leader Wheeler has requested a verification. All Members will be in their chairs and vote their own switches. The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1091 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 60 voting in 'favor', 50 voting 'against', 0 voting 'present'. Mr. Clerk, please read the names of those voting in the affirmative." 10200045.docx 177  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"Leader Wheeler." 10200045.docx 178  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021

"He's in his chair."

Speaker Andrade: "Verification has been withdrawn. On this question, there are 60 voting in 'favor', 50 voting 'nay', 0 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Clerk… Clerk, Rules Report."

"The Clerk is in receipt of Motions in Writing to waive the posting requirements for several Bills. If there is leave, we will take these Motions together in one Motion. Is there leave? Leave is granted. Leader Harris on the Motion."

"Mr. Speaker, I move the posting requirements be waived so the following Bills can be heard this week in committee. Senate Bill 667 in Immigration. And 6… I'm sorry. Senate Bill 828 to Ethics & Elections."

"Leader Harris has moved to waive the posting requirements. All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'nay'. In the opinion… the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 66 voting in 'favor', 42 voting 'nay', 0 voting 'present'. And the 10200045.docx 179  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 Motion carries. Leader Harris is recognized for an announcement."

"Democrats will caucus immediately after Session."

"Leader Batinick is recognized."

"Mr. Clerk, committee announcements."

"Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

"Leader Manley moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. And now, allowing for perfunctory time for the Clerk, Leader Manley moves that the House stand adjourned until Sunday, May 30, at the hour of 11 a.m. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those 10200045.docx 180  STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 45th Legislative Day 5/29/2021 opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the House stands adjourned."