"The House will come to order. Members, please be in your seats. We shall be led in prayer today by Wayne Padget, the Assistant Doorkeeper. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, please turn off your cell phones, and rise for the invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance. Assistant Doorkeeper Padget."
"Let us pray. Dear heavenly Father, thank you for the faithful servants you have brought together to fulfill your purpose. You have given us willing hearts and a desire to proclaim the name of Jesus through word and deed. We ask you to give us wisdom, patience, guidance, and peace as we plan for the future. Jesus taught us to follow you first in all things. He said, 'But seek first his kingdom and righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.' As we begin Session today, Lord, help us to pursue you and your will. Help us to respect one another and to work together. We give you the glory for everything that is accomplished. These things we pray. Amen."
"We shall be led in the Pledge of Allegiance today by Representative Gill."
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
"Roll Call for Attendance. Leader Gabel is recognized to report any excused absences on the Democratic side. Leader Gabel." 10300121.docx 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 121st Legislative Day 11/21/2024
"Speaker, Let the record show that Representatives Burke, Crespo, Manley, Mayfield, Ness, and Tarver are excused today."
"The record shall reflect. Leader Keicher is recognized to report any excused absences on the Republican side. Leader Keicher."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Please let the record reflect that Representatives Cabello, Stephens, and Hauter are excused for today."
"Have all recorded themselves who wish? Have all recorded themselves who wish? Have all recorded themselves who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There being 108 Members being present, a quorum is present. The Chair recognizes Representative Didech."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If I could have the Body's attention, please. I… I rise today to honor the life of Dr. Olga Duchon, a resident of Vernon Hills whose life was taken from her earlier this week. I'll read from a GoFundMe page that was established by her friend. 'We are heartbroken to share the tragic news that Dr. Olga Duchon, a beloved physician and radiant soul, was murdered on Sunday. Olga, who dedicated her life to caring for others, leaves behind her cherished four-year-old daughter. Olga was not just a respected doctor; she was a beacon of hope and healing for people around her. Her exceptional skills and heartfelt compassion made her a trusted figure among her patients and a source of pride for her family. Tragically, Olga's life was cut short by an act of domestic violence, a harrowing reminder of the dangers that many face in silence. Her loss is not 10300121.docx 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 121st Legislative Day 11/21/2024 just a personal tragedy; it highlights the urgent need to confront and address domestic violence in our communities.' From news reports, 'A 46-year-old Barrington man has been charged with first-degree murder in the shooting death of a well-regarded north suburban endocrinologist over the weekend, police said.' The assistant state's attorney told the judge the couple's relationship ended in 2021 over Duchon's objections to the defendant purchasing and storing firearms in their home. Duchon obtained an order of protection against the defendant, which required him to surrender his firearms. That order revoked his Firearm Owner's Identification Card. We have seen this tragic story before. Many of you are familiar with the case of Karina Gonzalez. Almost a year and a half ago, Karina and her 15-year-old daughter were shot and killed by Karina's husband, even though she had been granted an order of protection against him. The unacceptable circumstances surrounding Karina's death inspired legislation called Karina's Bill that will clarify and strengthen the law to require a firearm to be removed when a domestic violence survivor is granted the firearm remedy in an order of protection. We advanced similar legislation last year. Since then, progress has stalled, as conversations among stakeholders have continued to iron out the details of the Bill. I understand that this is a complex issue, but the time to get this done is now. On this issue, we should be doing less talking and more voting. Our job is to make laws. By continuing to do nothing, we're making orphans. When we return to Springfield in January, turning Karina's Bill into Karina's Law should be our priority. I'll 10300121.docx 3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 121st Legislative Day 11/21/2024 ask the chamber to take a moment of silence for Dr. Olga Duchon."
"The Body shall observe a moment of silence. Thank you. Representative Severin, for what reason do you seek recognition?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege, please."
"Please state your point."
"We have a special guest on the floor with us this morning. Her name is Gail Dunkel. Gail, if you'll stand up, please. And I met her when I was elected in '16, sworn in, in '17 on the second floor. I found out real quick where the bathroom was and didn't know much else, but I figured out real quick that in the mailroom was a lady that could help me. And I found out that she knew a lot of stuff, knew a lot of people. And so, she helped me from that day forward to kind of figure out what in the world was going on here in Springfield. And I also found out she's a phenomenal cook, and she also has orange slices. She has a glass jar of orange slices, which one of my favorite things. That’s why I can't fit into my suits now is because of her orange slices. But we want to honor her today. As you know, this is the last day of Veto Session and this is going… shortly one of the last days she's going to be us here, as far as working for the State of Illinois in the mailroom. So, I want to present to her and read this certificate, and then we're going to have a little fun with her. So, it says: State of Illinois, 103rd General Assembly, House of Representatives acknowledges Gail Dunkel in recognition of over 28 years of service to the State of 10300121.docx 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 121st Legislative Day 11/21/2024 Illinois and joins in the commemoration of the effort, dedication, and hard work, most of the time, that led to success. I entered… I added that. And further expresses its best wishes for personal happiness and professional achievement. Offered by, Representative Dave Severin, signed by Representative Dave Severin; and also, Emanuel 'Chris' Welch, signed by him; and also by the infamous John Hollman, and signed by him also. So, again, we want to present this to you. And also, if… those of you that know me, got to have a little fun, got to have a T-shirt. So, you're going to be the first person that I've ever presented a T-shirt to on the House Floor, and this is what it says, 'I can't believe I worked for the State of Illinois for over 25 years and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.' Gail, thank you for your time and your service, and thank you for your kindness, and thank you for your awesome abilities in the cooking. So, we appreciate it very much, and thanks for letting me have a little bit of fun with you. Appreciate you very much. Have a great Thanksgiving, and enjoy your retirement. Thank you."
"Representative Halbrook."
"Mr.… thank you, Mr. Speaker. A point of personal privilege, please."
"Please state your point."
"Thank you. Ladies and Gentlemen of the General Assembly, as we conclude the final week of Veto Session, there is a palpable sense of anticipation in the air, almost akin to excitement being felt by a child awaiting Christmas morning. However, instead of a festive cheer, what we are truly anticipating is the looming lame duck Session scheduled 10300121.docx 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 121st Legislative Day 11/21/2024 for the first week of January. For those less familiar with the term, lame duck Session occurs when retiring Legislators or those not reelected return to Springfield for one final period of legislative activity. During this time, Legislators are no longer accountable to their constituents, raising concerns about their accountability and an integrity to the decisions made. The lame duck Session has historically been one of the most risky and concerning periods for the residents of our great state. But why is that the case? Well, there's lots of evidence to that point. In January 2021, the SAFE-T Act was rushed through the Senate in the wee hours of the morning, on to the House, and then was signed by the Governor. This legislation has since become one of the most contentious and litigated Bills to emerge from our General Assembly. It required multiple subsequent Bills to address its flaws, resulting in more Amendments than the original texted itself, not to mention the numerous lawsuits challenging its constitutionality. Fast forward to January of 2023, we saw the introduction of Protect Illinois Communities Act. Similar to the SAFE-T Act, PICA was pushed through quickly, deemed unconstitutional by many, yet still signed into law, and just recently, was struck down by a federal judge. This pattern leaves law-abiding taxpayers to defend their civil rights in court against their own state, bearing the financial and emotional burdens of these legislative oversights. The lame duck Session is fertile ground for rushed and ill-considered legislation. The examples of SAFE-T Act and PICA demonstrate how critical policies can be compromised when accountability is diminished. Beyond rushed policies, there are significant 10300121.docx 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 121st Legislative Day 11/21/2024 concerns about the constitutionality of these laws passed during these Sessions. These laws not only face legal challenges, but also undermine the very principles that are meant to uphold. We have seen such legislation that attacks fundamental rights, such as free speech, during regular Sessions under the guise of protecting the most venerable among us, but lame duck is always worse. Governor Pritzker has repeatedly claimed to have balanced budgets and created a Rainy Day Fund. However, the reality tells a different story. Illinois, once again, is facing multi-billion-dollar deficits. The financial strain is largely due to continued pandemic-era spending. However, the difference now is there's no federal bailout money coming with it. The projected $23 billion increase in the state's budget by 2030 is unsustainable and places an undue burden on taxpayers without cuts. Furthermore, the out-migration of Illinois citizens is a clear indicator that these policies are driving residents away, rather than fostering a thriving community. Governor Pritzker, it's time to acknowledge the realities facing Illinois. Our state is losing more citizens than ever before, and your policies are a significant contributing factor. To this Body, let's not make any worse decisions during lame duck Session by ramming through more policies that will drive people out of Illinois. We must restore common sense to our state's governance. In closing, the upcoming lame duck Session presents another dangerous opportunity for misguided legislation that could further jeopardize our state's future. Let's not continue repeating the vicious cycle of radical, unconstitutional legislation passed during lame duck. Let's 10300121.docx 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 121st Legislative Day 11/21/2024 stand united in advocating for responsible governance, accountability, and the preservation of our constitutional rights. Together, we can return Illinois to a place of prosperity and opportunity for all citizens. Thank you."
"Representative Swanson."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."
"Please state your point."
"Thank you. I'd like to take a moment to give a shoutout to the Henry County-Stark County Health Department. The counties came together and conducted screening and testing for Lyme disease and other vector-borne diseases. They did this most times of screenings for these two diseases, there's… for Lyme diseases and other vector-borne diseases. The testing's only done when there's systemic reasons for testing, but the health department took it upon themselves to say we want to help the residents of our counties. There were 21 individuals tested over a two-and-a-half-week period. During that two-and-a-half-week period, I was one of those members tested. The results of my test provided a… a great explanation as to what disease I brought home with me from Iraq. Having been treated by many medical doctors and many medical professionals, my condition was undiagnosed. I was basically given a sleeping pill to put me to sleep at night because of what I had. I now know that I have Bartonella, which is caused by the sand flea. And, gosh, there's a lot of sand fleas in Iraq. With my case, it also came back with a twist of Lyme disease. So, I'm going to begin a protocol of some medications to help… help with what I have. And I'm so grateful to the Henry County-Stark County Health Department 10300121.docx 8 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 121st Legislative Day 11/21/2024 for being bold and doing this testing and screening. I would encourage you to work with your county health departments to do something similar. When we look at over 40 percent of Lyme… of ticks tested in Illinois, they carry Lyme disease, and many carry other vector-borne diseases. So, I just wanted to give a shoutout, and I appreciate the opportunity to do that, Mr. Speaker. Thank you."
"Leader Keicher, for what reason do you rise?"
"Point of personal privilege, Mr. Speaker."
"Please state your point."
"Thank you. I… I don't mean my comments in any way to take away from the tragedy that my peer just shared with the… the dearly departed doctor from Vernon Hills. But just as President-elect Trump has indicated that there are 1.3 million deportation orders that have already been made for residents that are still here, I'd like to point out that there are also low-hanging fruit when it comes to revoked FOID cards. Just this year, Cook County Sheriff Tom Dart indicated that there are 27 thousand revoked FOID cards in Cook County alone, where those households more than likely still possess firearms. And we have done nothing to address that. What we do instead is we go after law-abiding gun owners who are just minding their own business and doing nothing nefarious. And, again, I don't mean to take away from the tragedy, but let's do as President-elect Trump has suggested and pursue the low-hanging fruit of those that shouldn't have it already, and let's eradicate some of those burdens from possible domestic violence situations. Thank you, Mr. Speaker." 10300121.docx 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 121st Legislative Day 11/21/2024
"Representative Mussman."
"Point of personal privilege."
"Please state your point."
"So, I'm here today to say thank you and goodbye to a valued member of our staff as we often do. Michael Marks has been with us for more than nine years. He started out on my campaign, and I know that he's helped a lot of other campaigns. He… he joined House staff very shortly afterwards. And, again, he's been assigned as legislative aide to many of us. He's been assigned to numerous committees, including education, and he has been my right-hand man for a very, very long time. And I want to make sure that we all give him an incredibly warm send off. Former Senator Ann Gillespie has wisely picked him up to bring him into the new… the insurance department. And hopefully, we will continue to see him out and about around the Capitol. But certainly, it won't be the same, as I know, getting to see him greet me every day when I come up the hallway. I cannot tell you how grateful I am to have had such a good friend be with me all these many, many years, and I know I am going to miss him dearly."
"Representative Schweizer."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."
"Please state your point."
"Yes. I have a Resolution that's making its way through the system for Master Sergeant Jennifer Smit. And I just want to take this time to honor her. So, she is the recipient of the Rotary Club Vocational Service Person of the Year. So, this award is presented to a local individual who best exemplifies the ideals of Rotary and practices the high 10300121.docx 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 121st Legislative Day 11/21/2024 ethical standards in their chosen vocation. Jennifer has been involved in the law enforcement since 2014 when she accepted the call to serve the citizens of Danville as a police officer. Before this, she served as a seventh-grade science teacher for nearly three years at Danville's North Ridge Middle School with her master's degree being in education. Jennifer was an award-winning student-athlete and academic honors recipient while at Kankakee's Bishop McNamara High and DePaul University. She excelled in the police academy and sought after her assignment as a patrol officer. Jennifer served three years as an officer for Danville when she was then transferred to the State Police as a trooper. In less than five years, she was promoted to sergeant and then to master sergeant in 2024. She was heavily endorsed by her supervisor, Illinois State Police Master Sergeant Kenneth Massey, who saw her achievements as an officer and sergeant worthy of recognition. So, Jennifer also volunteers her free time. She assists the Danville Area Community College Foundation with scholarships and supports the Women's Survival Resource Center in the annual event Walk a Mile in Her Shoes. So, Jennifer continues to put a human face in law enforcement and shows compassion to everyone that she interacts with. I ask that we all acknowledge her positive impact on our community for whom she serves. So, Master Sergeant Jennifer Smit, it is my honor and privilege, as well as those of my fellow Members of the House of Representatives, to congratulate you on your well-earned Rotary Vocational Service Person of the Year. Thank you."
"Representative Stuart." 10300121.docx 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 121st Legislative Day 11/21/2024
"Thank you, Speaker. A point of personal privilege."
"Please state your point."
"Thank you. I just want to briefly introduce to the chamber, my friend, my Page today, Emma Lipe. Emma Lipe is a proud graduate of Edwardsville High School, go, Tigers, where she played tennis, won state with the journalism squad, and also worked on the yearbook. She's also a graduate of Indiana University, where she majored in advertising, and she's just here today to see what goes on. So, please give her a warm welcome."
"Welcome, Emma. Representative Bunting, for what reason do you arise?"
"Personal… point of personal privilege, please, Mr. Speaker."
"Please state your point."
"While we're all waiting here on the floor patiently, I thought I'd take an opportunity to wish my wife at home a happy… let's just say happy birthday, as she's taking care of the family and the farm here on this cold November day. So, join me in wishing my wife, Tasha, a happy birthday."
"Happy birthday. Representative Kifowit."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."
"State your point."
"Well, I am rising today to give a heartfelt and very appreciative recognition of an individual that I have worked very closely with, and he does not like recognition, which is probably why he's not on the House Floor. But today is Victor Zepeda's last Session day with the House. I believe he's been us about five years. I worked extremely closely with him on 10300121.docx 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 121st Legislative Day 11/21/2024 the Veterans' Affairs Committee, and his passion for veterans is… is just amazing. In fact, he had actually tried to apply to be in the U.S. Army, and for certain circumstances, was not able to… was not able to complete that vision. But his dedication to our veterans is… is really outstanding, and I can't even put it into words. Recently, he became a new father, and… to a baby girl. And… and he is a hundred percent devoted to his family, and that is really part of his character. He is a man of upstanding character. I'm blessed to call him my friend, and I truly, truly appreciated working with him. He also worked with Representative Rita Mayfield on her appropriations committee, and I know that he worked very hard for our General Assembly. He is going to the Illinois Emergency Management Agency. So, he's not going to be very far, just down the road. But I want to give my heartfelt congratulations to him on his new endeavor, and I really wish him well. And I don't want him to be a stranger, and to come over and visit us. So, with that, the man who does not like recognition, who's not on the House Floor because he does not like recognition, I'm given him recognition, nonetheless. And with everybody, just give a round of applause for the hard work of Victor Zepeda."
"…Hernandez, for what reason do you arise?" Hernandez, L.: "Point of personal privilege."
"Please state your point." Hernandez, L.: "Representative Kifowit just kind of beat me to it. I also wanted to announce that Victor Zepeda was leaving. I just learned about it myself as well. But what I want to include is that when Victor came in, he was going to be, 10300121.docx 13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 121st Legislative Day 11/21/2024 actually, my LA. I interviewed him, but he was, like Representative Kifowit, a little bit special that, to the point that I was asked if… if we could put him in research. And I'm like, of course. So, five years as a research staff member, he… and I know those who have worked with him can say much about him. We're going to miss him. I know he's going to IEMA, and I know he's going to good work there. Let's just… if I… I ask to join me again in… in giving him a… a farewell and wishing him all the best."
"Leader Hammond, for what reason do you seek recognition?"
"Point of personal privilege."
"Please state your point."
"I would like to say a heartfelt thank you and wish my legislative aide, Karla Dirks, all the best in her retirement. Karla's been on staff for, I'll just leave it at decades, and she has been an incredible blessing to me in the time that she has been my legislative assistant. And I know that she'll still be around whenever she can. She has great friends in this complex. And I wish her all the best."
"Mr. Clerk, the infamous John Hollman, please read the Adjournment Resolution. Oh, sorry, Brad."
Clerk Bolin: "House Joint Resolution #76, offered by Representative Gabel. RESOLVED, BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE ONE HUNDRED THIRD GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, THE SENATE CONCURRING HEREIN, that when the two Houses adjourn on Thursday, November 21, 2024, the House of Representatives 10300121.docx 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 121st Legislative Day 11/21/2024 stands adjourned until the call of the Speaker; and the Senate stands adjourned until the call of the President."
"Leader Gabel moves for the adoption of the Adjournment Resolution. All those in favor say 'aye'; all opposed 'nay'. In the opinion… sorry, Leader Windhorst."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Under House Rule 52, all legislative measures are debatable subject to a specific debate status. In addition, I request that the vote on the Resolution be a recorded vote. Under House Rule 49, any vote shall be by record vote whenever five Representatives shall so request or whenever the Presiding Officer shall so order. We are not adjourning this Body sine die, which I believe is the appropriate measure that should be taken today. Instead, we're leaving open the possibility of a lame duck Session. Lame duck Session should be limited to true emergencies. We have had an election. The newly elected 104th General Assembly should be taking up any new legislation that is not an emergency. I request a 'no' vote on this Resolution and instead we adjourn the 103rd General Assembly sine die."
"Leader Windhorst, I apologize. I hadn't seen your… your button. We're checking with the parliamentarian. Leader Gabel have… has moved for the adoptions of the Adjournment Resolution. Leader Windhorst has asked for a roll call vote. The question is, 'Shall the Adjournment Resolution be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 71 voting 'yes', 10300121.docx 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 121st Legislative Day 11/21/2024 37 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. And the Adjournment Resolution is adopted. Representative Kifowit."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A quick point of personal privilege."
"Please state your point."
"I just want to inform the Body that Victor Zepeda has arrived after we said all the good things about him. So, if we can just give a great round of applause and appreciation for all the hard work he has done in the five years and seven months he tells me he's been here for our Body and wish him well in his new endeavor."
"Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."
"Agreed Resolutions. House Resolution 950, offered by Representative Buckner. House Resolution 951, offered by Speaker Welch. House Resolution 952, offered by Representative Schweizer. House Resolution 953, offered by Representative Kelly. House Resolution 954, offered by Representative Hoffman. House Resolution 955, offered by Representative Elik. House Resolution 956, offered by Representative Morgan. And House Resolution 957, offered… offered by Representative Weaver."
"Leader Gabel moves for the adoption of Agreed Resolutions. All those in favor say 'aye'; all opposed 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolutions are adopted. And now, allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk, Leader Gabel moves that the House stand adjourned. All those in favor say 'aye'; all opposed 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the House is adjourned." 10300121.docx 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 121st Legislative Day 11/21/2024
"House Perfunctory Session will come to order. Introduction and First Reading of House Bills. House Bill 5917, offered by Representative Nichols, a Bill for an Act concerning regulation. First Reading of this House Bill. Introduction and First Reading of Senate Bills. Senate Bill 469, offered by Representative Katz Muhl, a Bill for an Act concerning education. First Reading of this Senate Bill. There being no further business, the House Perfunctory Session will stand adjourned." 10300121.docx 17