Illinois House Floor Debate — May 29, 1981

"Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, the House will be at ease until one o'clock. One o'clock."

"Could I have your attention. I've just been asked to announce, we will convene Session at four o'clock this afternoon."

"Thank you. Ladies and Gentlemen, while we are in recess waiting to get started. We have a group of students here from the 'Devort' on the west side of the City of Chicago, 7th and 8th graders. We would like to welcome you to Springfield, they are represented by Representative Griffin, Turner and Henry. Welcome to Springfield."

"The hour of....the hour of one o'clock having arrived, the House is not...is now in Session. The prayer today will be offered by Sister Mary Siena, Sacred Heart Academy located here in Springfield, Illinois. Sister Mary Siena."

"Let us pray. Lord Our God, bless this Body of people gathered once more to work for the common good. Let them not forget that even unforeseen events can give them the opportunity to act lovingly, firmly, wisely. To transform things from what they are to what they might be. Help them to strive for the kind of love, Saint Paul, describes in his epistle to the Romans, when he says, let your love be genuine, hate what is evil, hold fast to what is good. Never lack zeil but be on fire with the spirit. Rejoyce in hope, be patient in tribulation be constant in prayer. Do not become self satisfied and seek only the highest ideals. Live in harmony with one another, make real friends with the poor. Do all you can to live at peace with everyone. Do not be overcome by evil.but overcome evil with good. In their efforts at this genuine love Lord, help them to be fearestly honest, to know when 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981 to wait patiently and when to move relentlessly ahead. Grant them the senerity to accept the things they cannot change the courage to change things they can and the wisdom to know the difference."

"We will be led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Representative Kustra."

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all."

"Thank you, Representatives. Thank you, Sister. Roll Call for Attendance. The Chair recognizes Representative Chapman for an annoucement."

"Mr. Speaker, I'm sure the whole House joins me thanking Sister for being here all through this week. Her words have provided comfort, guidance and inspiration for all of us. And I believe among the most beautiful prayers that have ever opened these Sessions. Thank you, Sister."

"House Bills, Third Reading. House Bill 588. Pardon. Is there quorum? Take the....call. Is there a quorum present? 165 answering the Roll. There is a quorum present. House Bill 588. House Bills, Third Reading. Representative Madigan for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Mr. Speaker, would the records show that Representative Mulcahey is excused. That Representative Redmond is excused because of an illness in the family and that Representative Keane and Getty are excused because of Legislative business."

"Representative Collins, any absences on your side? Excused absences?"

"Mr. Speaker, may the records show that Representative Margalus is excused because of illness and Representative Zwick is excused because of a death in the family." 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981

"The record will so indicate. Representative Giorgi for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Well, Mr. Speaker, I know my Minority Leader excused Representative Mulcahey from this Session but, Mulcahey was here at noon and here at four o'clock. So, how do we handle that in his case? He was present...present and I saw him, I was a witness to it."

"I'm not sure, Representative. Representative Wolf, House Bill 588."

"House Bill 588, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Children and Family Services, the Department of Public Aid, the Department of Public Health, the Department of Mental Health and Developmental. Disabilities, and the Department of Rehabilitation Services. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Wolf." Wolf, J.J.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. We started going through this the other day before it was taken through the record. The Department of Children and Family Services, their budget is one hundred and eighty-one million, one hundred and sixty-seven thousand which is 3.3% less than it was introduced. Department of Public Aid, two billion nine hundred and thirty-five million, four hundred eighty-one point six, which is a reduction of 1.2% below as introduced. The Department of Public Health as recommended in this Bill, a hundred thirteen million, thirty-five thousand seven hundred dollars, which is one tenth of percent less than as introduced. The Department of Mental Health, five hundred and sixty-seven million, eleven thousand eight hundred dollars, which is seven tenths of a percent below as introduced. The Department of Rehab Services, ninety-nine million, eight hundred and eighty 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981. thousand dollars or point eight percent below the introduced amount. And the bipartisan House Committee on Medical Assistant Program, seventy-five thousand dollars, comes to a total of three billion, eight hundred ninety-six million, six hundred and fifty-one point one thousand dollars or a difference of one point two percent below as introduced. If there are any specific questions I would be happy to answer them or defer to the Subcommittee Chairman."

"Representative Matijevich, on the Bill."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I made my remarks reference to this Bill yesterday. Even though this is almost four billion dollars and it's a lot of money and state spending to some, and I'm sure that some may withhold their votes just because it's four billion dollars in state monies and funds. I feel that we must fund human services, I think all of us heard the prayer by Sister, just a little bit ago as she said, we should help the poor. My problem is that very often when we talk about public assistance, that there is a myth that we are giving too much for the poor and so often it is the providers that are making the monies and the poor remain poor. I intend to support this appropriation Bill and hopefully see its passage today.

"Representative Darrow."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates that he will."

"Do you have any idea how many people are on the Public Aid staff?" Wolf, J.J.: "Do you want a head count?"

"Head count." Wolf, J.J.: "Ten thousand and forty-three."

"And what are the current administrative cost of the 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1981 52nd Legislative Day program?" Wolf, J. J.: "Alright. A total of a hundred fifty million, seven hundred, forty-one point four thousand."

"Pardon." Wolf, J. J.: "Hundred and fifty million, seven hundred and forty-one thousand, four hundred."

"What I'm doing..." Wolf, J.J.: "Personal Services."

"What I'm doing is checking with figures that I received yesterday from Public Aid. They had indicated that the administrative cost were two hundred thirty-five million, one hundred and thirty-seven thousand. So we have a discrepancy there, I believe." Wolf, J.J.: "Okay, what. I gave you was Personal Service, I thought that's want you wanted."

"No, I was talking about adminstration...I would like to address this Bill." Wolf, J.J.: "Two hundred and twenty-seven million, one hundred and sixty-seven thousand, six hundred. That's GRS.".

"Proceed, Representative."

"Thank you. Yesterday after we amended this legislation and attempted to amend it further. I checked with the Department of Public Aid and I learned that there were in excess of ten thousand bureaucrats working to administer.. the Public Aid funds. Furthermore, they indicated that.. there was a sum of two hundred and thirty-five million, one hundred and thirty-seven dollars used to administer the program. Further checking I learned that of the budget, one billion six hundred thirty-four million, six hundred and eighty thousand dollars goes to doctors and hospitals.. This is more than goes to the recipients themselves, the recipients receive one billion, one hundred and two million, eight hundred, forty-one thousand. So we have a 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981 program that employs over ten thousand people in the state, it costs over two hundred and thirty-five million to administer and the most funds of any program go to doctors and hospitals. We have a need for welfare reform, the Carter Administration has proposed welfare reform. in this area, it fell upon deaf ears, President Reagan has not yet called for a reform of this. Here in Illinois we have. House Bill 79, I believe it is, introduced by Catania and Ryan. But this Bill has not had a fair hearing on the House floor, it has not been acted upon. I think this whole system needs reform, I think that were're...we have a system where the recipients are receiving some assistance but most of its going for administration and to doctors and hospitals. I would encourage my colleagues to vote 'present' on this until we have some meaningful reform in the Public Aid Department. Until Catania, Ryan Bill is voted on by this House of Representatives. There's really no emergency here, we're talking about appropriation for. fiscal year beginning July 1st. I think if we can withhold our votes, resurrect the Catania, Ryan Bill, we would have a better chance of improving the system the delivery of services in cutting back on this wasteful: program. Thank you."

"Further discussion? Representative Schraeder."

"I wonder if the Sponsor would yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative, what is the Department of Child and Family Services done with the purchase of care contracts they've had in effect for some time with some of the private agencies?" Wolf, J.J.: "Would you repeat that question, please.".

"What has the Child and Family Services Department done with the contracts for the purchase of care with the 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1981 52nd Legislative Day private agencies?" Wolf, J.J.: "I've been advised that they still have contracts for the coming year like they have currently."

"Well, they still have contracts and tend to continue. those contracts, why aren't they providing that...allowing those private agencies to fulfill those contracts. Why are they withholding the...those individual situations from the private agencies then? Doesn't that seem like a conflict? Make a contract then not allow them to function." Wolf, J.J.: "I'm not sure I understand the question. If they have a contract, I can't understand..."

"But they're not letting those contracts function.. They are denying the right.." Wolf, J.J.: "In what way? If someone has a contract that they contracted to deliver services, I can't see how they can be impared from delivering those services."

"Well, that's what the agency has been doing for some time. Well, let me go one other question.. What's the position of the agency in cutting back the million plus to some four hundred thousand dollars as far as the prenatal and maturity services to some of the agencies? Is it the policy of the department to discontinue that completely next year, since you've reduced it over 50% on this years budget?" Wolf, J.J.: "The department as I understand, is going to continue the program at a somewhat diminished level and are making. every effort to clean it up."

"But what happens if you have the need there, is...hov. can you exist on less than 50%.funding. if we have need of greater than that this year? It seems to me that the teenage pregnancy in unwed mothers category is increasing every year rather than decreasing... How can you explain that in the cut back?" 7-  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Wolf, J.J.: "The May 29, 1981. department believes that they can fulfill that obligation with the lesser amount of dollars."

"Well, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, it just seems to me that this is another time this agency has shown the irresponsible actions of past fiscal years. They keep saying they're going to take care of the children, they aren't, they're not taking care of the expectant single mothers when the need is there. They certainly aren't. filling their obligations as far as the written contracts between private agencies and the state and it seems to me that until they have a thorough discussion with those. private agencies and some kind of meaningful dialog, we ought to vote 'present' and not give them the sufficient: votes to pass their appropriation."

"Further discussion? Representative Reilly."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the.. House.. Just briefy, as Chairman of the subcommittee, that heard this appropriation. We worked very carefully and very closely between the two parties, Representative Bowman, the Minority Spokesman and myself and all the Members of the subcommittee.. We dealt as best we could with the various problems that were brought to us. And I think we present to you a Bill that is in reasonable shape., Now there's in an area here where the proponents wouldn't like to have more money. That will be the story on the whole budget here, in the Senate, when you get to final passage on the Conference Committee. We would like to give more to all kinds of good causes but we have responded. We did listen. We did take into account the complaints that were made, that day care was being cut too much and we responded to that. We did take into account the complaints that direct patient care position in mental health were not being funded sufficiently, and we responded to that.. We 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day worked through this Bill for many many Committee, the subcommittee and in the full May 29, 1981. hours in the Committee and if you remember for about six hours the other day... I'm. sure you were all exhausted listening to it but you all sat here, I was very proud of the whole House. We worked our will on this and we won some and lost some on the various Amendments. I think the Bill as it comes to you has been worked on very carefully and in very close cooperation. I commend Representative Bowman, I commend Representative: Matijevich, Representative Wolf.. We have all from both parties worked to put this Bill in the best possible shape... To not pass it at this point and move it along is in plain simple language, not only irresponsible but also a. vote....if you don't like the planned kind of omnibus Bills you have now, defeat this Bill and wait till you see what comes back from the Senate on July 3. If you don't like this you'll love that. The only responsible vote and a. good, honest conscientious principle vote at this point is to vote to fund these agencies, send this Bill over to the Senate and move on with the process. I ask with all the sincerity that I possess for a favorable vote on House Bill 588."

"The Representatives in this order, as the lights came on. Bullock, Kelly, O'Connell, McBroom, Leverenz.. Representative Bullock.. Your light is not on, Representative Kane. Representative Kelly." Kelly, D.: "Yes, I would just like to ask a question of the Sponsor."

"He indicates he'll yield." Kelly, D.: "Can you tell me, in Tinley Park at the Tinley Park Mental Health Facility and the Howel Center, if there will: be a two and a half million dollar reduction in our budget and if so, does this mean, I understand there's going to be 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY

TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981. approximately two hundred employees that are going to be removed from that facility as far as losing their jobs and so forth. I believe it's under Amendment #18 or 19." Wolf, J.J.: "Representative Kelly, I understand there's a slight decrease in dollars it is not that large of one...from this year, fiscal '81 to fiscal '82. And that there will. be. some small decrease in number of employees from FY-81 to 82 but, it is not two hundred like two hundred like you've..." Kelly, D:. "I have an explanation of Amendment #19 and it says here, transfers two and a half million from the Howel Developmental Center to Dixon and Shapiro Developmental Centers for caring of a hundred and sixty residents and then it notes that there are at Tinley Park, forty-eight people and at Howel Center two hundred and twenty-four. people who will be either transferred or else will lose their employment. Now that's the explanation that I have of the Amendment and....is that not correct?" Wolf, J.J.: "Okay. I understand there were suppose to be a hundred and sixty residents transferred to Howel originally. These people were instead shifted to Dixon and to Shapiro and therefore, the additional personnel would not be needed since the additional patients would not be going to Howel." Kelly, D.: "Okay, well then I just...." Wolf, J.J.: "We're talking....these were to be new position and they are not needed now because of the patients are not going to be....that is one hundred and sixty residents are not going to be transferred to Howel." Kelly, D.: "Okay. Thank you., I would just like to speak on this issue, Mr. Speaker and that is, that a particularly the Legislators that are representing that area. We're going to have a number of people and we already have high. unemployment rate and this is going to add to it and I have 10  STATE OP ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981. always supported this appropriation. And I feel very bad not to but I just can't do it with that large. a....and by closing down those facilities, that would be, I think a real tragedy and I'm going to encourage those of you particularly from the south suburbs to either vote 'noor vote 'present'."

"O'Connell."

"Mr. Speaker, I move the previous question."

"The question is, 'Shall the main question be put?' Those in favor will signify by saying 'aye', those. opposed.. The 'ayes' have it, Representative Wolf to close." Wolf, J.J.: "Thank you, Mr.. Speaker. In answer to the last Gentleman, I would like to submit to this House of Representatives, it is not the function of any department to try to use patient care to solve unemployment problems on a regional basis. We could make the same argument for Dixon for Shapiro, for any other center and as to the patient should be moved there to solve some local unemployment problems. I think these exist all over the state. In answer to a previous Gentlemen, who said that there were over ten thousand bureaucrats in the Department of Public Aid, I wouldn't consider case workers and people who are out in the streets trying to fulfill the needs of the people out there as bureaucrats. Now there are over...close to two hundred, ten thousand AFDC recipients alone, that these ten thousand employees are taking care. of. I don't have the figures on the others but I know in AFDC alone there are close to two hundred and ten thousand people out there that have to be served and I think.. it's foolishness and folly to vote 'no' on this appropriation... It is something that has to be done, the question before you now at this point, is not how much more money can be 11.  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981. added in or subtracted, that was done on Second Reading. The question before you now is, are you going to fund this budget, are you going to take care of the people in these various agencies in Children and Family Services, in Public Aid, in Mental Health or are you going to give them. nothing... And that is the question before you now at Third Reading, I would ask for your affirmative votes."

"The question is, 'Shall House....shall House Bill 588 pass?'. Those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative O'Brien to explain his vote."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker and Members. I rise to support House Bill 588 and I realize that yesterday we were asking for Chicago to sucede from the State of Illinois. Today cooler heads prevail primarily because our Speaker, Speaker Ryan, has opened up the channels of communication and for those reasons, I will support the appropriation process and I'm happy to state, Speaker, that I am very pleased that we have finally opened up the channels of communication so that we can solve the problems for all the people of the State of Illinois. I vote. 'aye'."

"Representative Satterthwaite to explain her vote."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. It really hurts me not to be able to support these budgets for human services which are of dire concern to me. But a part of the mental health budget as it now stands, is an.. elimination of regional offices and in return, some monies put into the central office in Springfield instead. I do not believe that we can run the kind of mental health program that we need in the State of Illinois with that 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE. 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981. portion of the budget eliminated. We really need to have those regional offices open and functioning... And for that reason, I vote 'no'."

"Representative Bullock to explain...."

"Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise to state for the record, not only my voting 'aye but I think for the first time that I can recall in my short tenure here. That we have. bipartisan cuts in the Public Aid budget...minus the cost of living increase for publicaid recipients of which I would have liked to have seen in this budget., I thought that there was one very significant Amendment to this Bill. I noticed that Representative Vinson had put an Amendment to this Bill that cut out a hundred and seventy-five dollars...seventy-five thousand dollars to health systems agencies.. I think Representative Vinson should be. commended for at least pointing the way to the radication of an agency or agencies across the state that I think have been a tremendous deterent to quality care. And I want the records to show at least, some Democrats believe in budget cuts and if for no other reason, I'm supporting that one."

"Representative Braun to explain her vote."

"Thank you, Mr....Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This budget..."

"Excuse me. The House Rules prohibit the filming during explanation. Thank you. Representative Braun to explain her vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I recognize this Bill has to be passed and I frankly hope that:89 people will at least vote for it.. I will not lend my vote to this Bill, however, not only because the cost of living is not in there, I'm not that much of a spoiled sport. But certainly because of what it 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE. 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981. does to hospitals, particularly the high tertiary care facilities throughout this state. It will set up a separate.....if the cuts in this Bill are passed, it will set up a separate standard of health care for the poor. I frankly find that unconsciousable. The cuts in the hospital lines, what it does in terms of health services I find to be counter productive and short sided. I believe that the poor will suffer and for that reason, I'm voting 'present'."

"Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question there are 130 voting 'aye', 15 voting 'nay', 12 voting 'present', this Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. The Lady from St. Clair, Representative Younge for the purposes of an announcement. Representative Younge."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. In the gallery to our right are three very important visitors. Veronica Wade. of the Illinois Commission on Children, Andrew Hoffman who is a Sophomore at Rose Homen Institute of Technology and Electrical Engineering and Karen Welch who is Vice Chairman of the Illinois Council on Youth. Karen is a Sophomore at MIT, majoring in machanical engineering. Would you welcome them, please."

"Representative Balanoff, for what purpose do you rise, Ma'am?"

"My button seems to be...it wasn't working and....."

"Mr. Electrician, the Lady's button is not working. Does the Lady wish to be recorded?"

"As 'aye' on 588."

"The Lady asks leave to be recorded as voting as 'aye' on House Bill 588. Is there any objection? Leave being granted, the Lady will be so recorded."

"Thank you." 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981

"Representative O'Connell for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Mr. Speaker, similarly my button did not work.. I request leave to be recorded 'aye'."

"The Gentleman requests leave to be recorded, does he have leave of the House. Leave is granted, Mr. Clerk. Let the record indicate, Representative O'Connell as voting 'aye'.. House Bill 589, Representative Wolf. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill. 589, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Law Enforcement, the Department of Insurance, the Military and Naval Department, the State Fire Marshal, the Local Governmental Law Enforcement Officers' Training Board, the Illinois Racing Board, and the Illinois Historical Library and the Department of Mental Health Developmental Disabilities. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Wolf." Wolf, J. J.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House... The Agencies are funded as follows.. The Department of Law Enforcement, sixty-eight million six hundred forty-two thousand dollars. That's 1% less than as introduced....pardon me, it was a hundred and five million, a hundred and forty-four point three thousand.. The Department of Insurance at eight million, one hundred eighty-seven thousand six hundred dollars, that was 2 1/2%. less than introduced. The Military and Naval Department, six million, four hundred and ninety-one point three thousand. Six million, four hundred ninety-one thousand, three hundred dollars, a reduction of 5.8% under the Bill as introduced. State: Fire Marshal, four million, nine hundred and twenty-three thousand, two hundred dollars 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE. 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981 which is 7 1/2% below the amount at which it was introduced. Local Government Officer Training, three million, two hundred and sixty-four thousand, nine hundred dollars.. The Racing Board, seven million, six hundred and sixty-five thousand, three hundred dollars, that's .2%.. below as introduced. Historical Library, one million, seven hundred and seventy thousand, one hundred dollars. For a grand total of a hundred and thirty-seven million, six hundred and ninety-six thousand, seven: hundred dollars."

"In the order of the lights so far, Representative Matijevich and Schraeder. Representative Matijevich."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House,. I again would now urge the Members on this side of the aisle to withhold their votes or vote no on House Bill 589. And we do, I believe, have legitimate reasons why we should not vote for this Appropriation Bill at this time. For the last couple of....last: Session, this Session, we've been having some real serious problems with the Department of Law Enforcement and up grading its system, the computerized criminal: history systems. Which is so important to local police departments, local law enforcement agencies. They rely so heavily on this information, in the court systems and when you don't have that adequate information you are not doing a good job in law enforcement. Now I realize. that Director 'Zagal' has said, that they are going to all that they can to upgrade this system. But they have such a backlog, I think that the only way we can show that we mean business is by withholding our votes. Now that...I think that does work to a great extent, for example, one of the other agencies in this omnibus type of Bill is the Racing Board. The Racing Board showed both the Republican 16  52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1981. and Democratic staff just a complete sense of arrogance in their lack of providing adequate information to the....both staffs. In fact, one of the Gentleman from that agency said, well just don't give us the money, we just won't have any racing dates. I think that type of arrogance is a type that we, as a House ought to show that we do have final approval on those appropriation Bills. And the best way. that we can show that we mean business and we want accountability, we want those agencies of government doing their job, is by withholding our votes. So I would urge. the Members on this side of the aisle at this time to withhold their votes or vote 'no' on House Bill 589."

"Representative Schraeder."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House.. I wonder if the Sponsor would yield to a couple of questions?"

"He indicates he will."

"Yesterday or the day before I made an inquiry about Concordia Seminary which is now used by the State Police Agencies. I wonder if you can tell me what the original. sale price of that property was?" Wolf, J.J.: "It's not in this Bill."

"Nothing to do with the Concordia?" Wolf, J.J.: "No."

"Which one is that in?" Wolf, J.J.: "Department of Corrections."

"Okay..." Wolf, J.J.: "That's a Senate Bill."

"Okay. Thank you.. What about the two new penal. institutions that are now under construction. Is there any money in for that or is that the other budget?" Wolf, J.J.: "That's Capitol CBD and Department of Corrections."

"Is there anything in there for furnishing or for 17  52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1981. staffing in this budget?" Wolf, J.J.: "No, not in this one."

"But that staffing be in that budget or would it be in this budget?" Wolf, J.J.: "That's in the Department of Corrections budget."

"Thank you." Speaker: Peters: "Representative Leverenz. He's not here.. Representative Wolf to close." Wolf, J.J.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House... In closing I would like to respond to the Minority Spokesman on Committee, maybe my mind is bad but it seemed to me that you voted for this in Committee and I thought we had solved that particular problem. As a matter of fact, the head count in the support services division, I believe we increased that from around 226 to 359, for the computerized criminal history in order that we could get these records out. You're shaking your head no over there. At any rate, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, as I said, this is the Department of Law Enforcement which is the State Police and other agencies and not the Department of Corrections.. I would just ask for your affirmative: vote."

Speaker Peters: "The question is, 'Shall House Bill 589 pass?" Those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'nay". The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Vinson to: explain his vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The Chairman of the Committee vas accurate in saying that one of the Amendments that we put on here, added a hundred eighty-nine thousand for new positions in support services. To provide the manpower to get the criminal history records and so forth out on a much quicker. basis. This is some: 75% or so of the amount that the 18  52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1981. director said, would get it done on a fast turn around time. I think the subcommittee and the Committee were extremely responsible and that and I would urge an 'aye'. vote for this agency."

"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question there. are 86 voting 'aye'... the Gentleman asks for a poll of the absentees."

"Poll of the Absentees. Bowman... Deuster... DiPrima. Garmisa. Getty. Hanahan. Huff. Kane.. Keane... Kosinski. Laurino. Margalus. Miller. Mulcahey. Pechous. Pierce. Redmond. Stearney. Topinka... Younge... And Zwick."

"Representative Kane."

"Vote me 'no', please."

"Vote Representative Kane, 'no'. Any other changes? Take the record. What's the count? On this question there are 86 voting 'aye', 42 voting 'no', 29 voting 'present'. This Bill having failed to receive the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared lost. 621.out of the record. 624, Representative. Huff... Out of the record. 673, Representative Collins. It's for the Port Authority. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 673, a Bill for an Act making. appropriations to the Department of Transportation. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Collins."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 673 is the companion appropriation for House Bill 674, which this House passed just in the last week or so by a vote of 145 to 12. The substantive Bill came out of the Appropriation Committee, 20 to nothing and this Bill came out of the... Oh, I mean the Executive 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981. Committee. And this Bill came out of the Appropriations Committee by a vote of 15 to 4. This Bill would provide monies for Port Districts in Chicago at the rate of twenty-five cents per ton for foreign imports and exports... It's an important Bill to our Port Districts and especially to the Chicago Regional Port District and I would ask for your favorable consideration."

"Representative Matijevich."

"Yes, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I joinin support of this Bill. The ports do need a lot of help, I think the Bill such as this does do a lot to help the economy of the State of Illinois and therefore, I intend to vote for it."

"Representative Bullock."

"Mr. Speaker, I was wondering if the Sponsor would yield for a question?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative Collins, I've received information relative to the ports, particularly around Calumet Harbor.. I was wondering if you could clarify for me whether or not this quarter of a million dollars in anyway make the Calument Harbor a system more competitive than what some of us in the past would like to see. I recall recently, a. news account that one of the largest employers of the State of Illinois, Caterpillar Company was not utilizing ports in the City of Chicago, but instead were using some of the ports on the east coast., Will this Bill in anyway enhance..."

"Excuse me, Representative Collins."

"Mr. Speaker, I'll answer Representative Bullock's question privately, in the meantime I would like to take this out of the record."

"Out of the record. 697, Representative 20  52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1981. Winchester. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 697, a Bill for an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent expense of the State Board of Elections. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Winchester."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is the. ordinary and contingent appropriation for the State Board of Elections as it vas originally introduced, it was four million three hundred, sixteen thousand.. We trimed it, three hundred and ninety-three thousand dollars, the budget is now: three million, nine hundred and twenty-two thousand... It represents a decrease of 36.5% from FY-81. appropriation.. This is how it was submitted to us by the State Board of Elections. It's probably one of the better agencies to send us a....an appropriation budget this year and I would ask for a favorable vote."

"Any discussion? If not, the question is, 'Shall. House Bill 697 pass?' Those in favor will signify by voting'aye', those opposed by voting 'nay"... Have all: voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question there are 149 voting 'yes', none voting 'nay", 3 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed., House Bill 733, Representative: Robbins. Read the Bill, Mг.. Clerk.."

"House Bill 733, a Bill: for an Act making appropriations to the Department of Agriculture for the control of starlings. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Robbins. Out of the record.. Page 7, Constitutional Amendments, Second Reading. ar Clerk, House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment 13.9

"House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment.. 21.

82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day #13. This Resolution has been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motion regard to Amendment #1?"

"No Motions filed."

"Third Reading. Floor. Amendments? Representative McCormick for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Well, Mr. Speaker while you're waiting to get: something lined up. Might I make a statement to all of the Ladies, the lovely Ladies...Members of the House. I want you to know that I appreciate very much this beautiful plant that you have given me. I'll tell you one thing, you young fellows may be tall, dark and handsome but the girls said, old C. L., is short, fat and loveable. But thank you very much, I appreciate it very much. And I want you to know this, as soon as it dries I've got the secret papers to make it what you want it."

"Representative Daniels. Representative Daniels, shall we go with it? Any Amendments? Third Reading back to Second. Any Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Cullerton. Amends House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #13 on page 1, by deleting line 8 and 9 and so forth."

"Representative Cullerton, Amendment #1."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This rewrites the Resolution, provides that the....it be a creation of a Judicial Screening Commission to certify the fitness of candidates for Supreme Appellate Circuit Court and Associate Judges. No person will be eligible to serve in the Office of Supreme Appellate Circuit Court or Associate Judge unless they are certified by the Judicial Screening Commission. And it would not apply to such Judges in office at the time of this 22.  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981. adoption. There would be twenty-three Members on this Screening Commission, the First Judicial District would have nine, three appointed by the Supreme Court, three non Lawyers appointed by the Governor with the advice and consent of the Senate. Three Attornies selected by. attornies from the district. And the other four downstate districts, there would be twelve members, three from each district, three appointed by the Supreme Court, three non lawyers, one appointed by the....all appointed by the Governor. And again, three attornies selected by attornies from the district. There would be two, at large, members appointed by the Supreme Court. The members of the Screening Commission would serve for six year terms, the Supreme Court shall designate one of the Judge members as Chairman for a two year term. The Commission shall adopt.. rules of procedure and in order to be eligible to serve or be eligible to hold the office of Supreme Appellate Circuit Court Associate Judge, a person must submit his name for certification to the Screening Commission. No person may hold such office unless his fitness has been certified. As I said before, they should use the following criteria, judicial temperment, legal knowledge, experience as an attorney or Judge, integrity and partialty in absence of prejudice and avoidance of impropriety.. There would be, for the purpose of evaluation and certification, there would be two categories, Supreme and Appellate and the other category would be Circuit and Associate. It would take twelve votes to certify a candidate and the certification shall be valid for six years subject to findings of ethical or judicial conduct. violations by the. Supreme Court. That's what the Amendment does, I would be. happy to answer any questions and ask for its adoption."

"Representative Vinson." 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day

"Will the Sponsor yield for a question?"

"He indicates he'll try." May 29, 1981.

"Hould you distinctly express what the difference of the...between the. Amendment and the Constitutional Amendment as it now is proposed, is?"

"Yes, we still retain the peoples right to decide:who their Judges are going to be instead of having it....as the Bill is given as the Bill is drafted, it really turns over the appointment power to a very small group of people. What this does, is to insure that ve have quality candidates but it still keeps the people...allows them the right to decide who the Judges shall be."

"So, this would still provide for an election....an. electoral system?"

"That's correct."

"Can you tell me, on page 2, subsection (b) at the top of the page, line 7 and 8....which would require the licensed attorney to maintain a law practice in the district? Does that differ from the underline Amendment?""

"Representative Cullerton, will you reply. He indicates he'll reply."

"I'm trying to get the answer for him, one second."

"Take your time."

"I'm having a hard time hearing him, Mr. Speaker., Could you ask him to speak louder."

"He hasn't said anything yet."

"Oh, I see."

"I don't know the answer, Representative.".

"You what?"

"I can't understand your questions so I can't give you the answer."

"Well, on page 2 in subsection (b), on line 7 and 8, where the attorney has to maintain a law practice in the 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981. district.. Does that differ from the underlined Constitutional Amendment that's being proposed?"

"Well, I know what this Amendment does but I don't. know what Representative Daniels Constitutional Amendment. says."

"I see. Your proposing an Amendment and you don't know what the... what it is you're amending."

"I know what it's going to be after this Amendment: passes. That's the important thing."

"To the Amendment, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. What Representative Cullerton, is proposing is an attempt to essentially rape the principle and purpose of the Constitutional Amendment we're considering.. But the Constitutional Amendment that we're considering would do is provide, by judicial district for an optional basis for people to choose to go to a merit selection of judges nominating procedure. It would not impose that any place in the state, the people would have to choose it. The problem with the Amendment is, that this would still throw. it back into an electoral system and you would have no guarantee that that electoral system still would not be rigged to produce highly partisan judicial results. I would strongly urge defeat of the Amendment."

"Representative Dunn is next and then you, Representative. Representative John Dunn." Dunn, John: "Thank you for indulgence, Mr. Speaker.. I was down at the well: just getting a copy of this Amendment and I would like to ask the Sponsor, for my own clarification.. Whether if this Amendment is adopted, House Joint: Resolution Constitutional Amendment 13 would provide for appointment and merit selection of all Judges from the Associate Judge to the Circuit Judge, the Appellate Judge, Supreme Court Judge, all across the State of Illinois." 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981

"No, it would provide that we would maintain the peoples right to decide who are Judges are going to be rather than turn that over to an elete and select group of people to make that decision." Dunn, John: "Would there be any change in the present system of electing Circuit Judges if your Amendment is adopted and this Constitutional Amendment would become law?"

"Well, we would insure that the candidates for that office, pass a very rigorous investigation by Screening Commission that I'm proposing. And that's how it would improve the system." Dunn, John: "What changes would be made in the election process for Circuit Judge if your Amendment is adopted?":

"No person would be eligible to run unless they've been certified by the Judicial Screening Commission." Dunn, John: "And on your Screening Commission, how many lawyers and how many non lawyers will there be?"

"There's three Judges appointed by the Supreme Court, three non lawyers appointed by the Governor..." Dunn, John: "At the Circuit level, screening of Circuit Judges."

"That's how. I'm answering. I'm describing the Commission to you. The Screening Commission, three Judges appointed by the Supreme Court, three non lawyers appointed by the Governor and three attorneys selected by the attorneys from the district. And two at large, appointed by the Supreme Court. Could be either attorneys or non attorneys." Dunn, John: "Would the three Judges who are appointed, screened candidates for Circuit Judge in every circuit in the state?"

"Yes, there's....there is..." Dunn, John: "And the three non lawyers which have whom you have spoke, would they also participate in the screening of all 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981 Circuit Judge candidates throughout the State of Illinois?"

"No, in the district. In the judicial district." Dunn, John: "Well, you mentioned three Judges, three non lawyers, you said three attorneys from the district. Are three Judges to be selected in each circuit or are there three Judges statewide to participate in this election of all candidates in every circuit?"

"There's two separate Commissions. One is for the first judicial district, has nine members. Second one, is for the other four downstate districts and they have twelve members. Three Judges appointed by the Supreme Court, three non lawyers appointed by the Governor, three attorneys and two at large." Dunn, John: "How many Screening Commissions altogether will there be in the State of Illinois. Maybe..."

"Two. One for the first judicial district and other one for the other four downstate." Dunn, John: "So, the other..."

"Representative Daniels." Dunn, John: "May I complete my questioning, Mr. Speaker?".

"Take this Bill out of the record."

"Out of the record. Senate Bills, First Reading. Messages from the Senate."

"A Message from the Senate by, Mr. Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has passed Bills of the following titles, in the passage of which I am instructed to ask concurrence of the House of Representatives, to-wit: Senate Bill 59, 1016, 1020, 1025, 1026, 1030, 1031, 1034, 1040, 1061, 1081, 1086, 1108, 1113, 1120, 1124, 1141, 1143, 1147, 1148, 1151, 1157, 1160, 1163, 1193, 1201, 1214, 1221, 1227, 1228, 983, 1119, 1168, 1146, 1155, 1161, 1176, 1177, 1179, 1180, 1181, 1182, 1183, 1184, 1186, 1187, 1190, 1196, 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981 1197, 1205, 1206, 1218, 1105, 1110, 1125, 1126, 1127, 1128, 1130, 1131, 1132, 1133, 1144, 1145, 1060, 1062, 1068, 1073, 1074, 1075, 1077, 1078, 1083, 1085, 1087, 1088, 1094, 1104, 1010, 1027, 1028, 1033, 1036, 1038, 1043, 1044, 1049, 1051, 1052, 1058, 908, 913, 915, 919, 928, 932, 951, 953, 955, 966, 977,989, 992, 864, 868, 875, 879, 885, 888, 889, 891, 892, 894, 895, 898, 902, 904, 596, 652, 741, 799, 803, 818, 827, 829, 841, 842, 851, 853, 861. Senate Bill 19, 21, 68, 115, 188, 259, 296, 352, 416, 418, 432,433, 575 and Senate Bill 1107, passed the Senate May 19, 1981. Kenneth Wright, Secretary."

"Senate Bills, First Reading.

"Senate Bill 1031, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Revenue. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 155, Brummer. A Bill for an Act to amend the Probate Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 218, Deuster. A Bill: for an Act to amend the Local Records Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 230, Peters-Kane. A Bill for an Act making certain appropriations to the Board of Trustees of the University of Illinois. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 231, Wikoff.. A Bill for an Act making certain appropriations to the Board of Trustee of the University of Illinois. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 232, Richmond. A Bill: for an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of Southern Illinois University. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 233, Bradley. A Bill for an Act making appropriations for the Board of Regions. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 234, Stuffle-Woodyard. A Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Board of Governors of State Colleges and Universities. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 235, 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTIONDEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Woodyard-Stuffle. May 29, 1981 A Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Illinois Community College Board and Board of Trustees and the State Community College of East St. Louis for fiscal year '82.. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 236, Stuffle-Woodyard. A Bill for an Act to amend the Public Community College Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 238, Wikoff. A Bill for an Act making appropriation for the retirement purposes higher education institutions and agencies. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 274, Madigan-Matijevich. A Billfor an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent and distributive expenses of the State Comptroller. Senate Bill 270, Ebbesen. A Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to the state finance. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 316, J. J. Wolf-Winchester. A Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Environmental Facilities Finance Authority. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 320, Wikoff. A Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of State Universities Civil Service Merit Board. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 321, J. J. Wolf-Davis. A Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Board of Trustees of the General Assembly Retirement System. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 322, J. J. Wolf-Davis. A Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Judges Retirement System. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 323, J. J. Wolf-Davis. A Bill for an Act making certain appropriations to the Teacher Retirement System. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 324, J. J. Wolf-Davis. A Bill for an Act making appropriations for certain retirement benefits for teachers. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 325, J. J. Wolf-Davis. A Bill for an 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981 Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of state employees retirement system. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 328, J. J. Wolf-Davis. A Bill for an Act making appropriations for ordinary and contingent expenses in the Medical Center Commission. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill. 336, J. J. Wolf-Vinson. A Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses for the Commissioners of Bank and Trust Companies. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 337, J. J. Wolf-Davis. A Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Court of Claims. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 347, Ropp. A Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 468, McBroom-Kociolko. A Bill for an Act to amend the Uniformed Disposition of Unclaimed Property Act. First Reading of the Bill., Senate Bill 518, Henry. A Bill for an Act in relationship to explosive disposal units. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 535, Swanstrom. A Bill for an Act to amend the Recorder Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 568, Terzich. A Bill for an Act to create Sanitary Districts. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 569, Terzich. A Bill for an Act to create sanitary districts. First Reading of the Bill. Bill 639, Robbins. A Bill for an Act in relationship to filing leases and standardize objects and purposes for which appropriations are made. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 798, Terzich. A Bill for an Act to amend the Personnel Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Senate Bill 800, Swanstrom. A Bill for an Act to amend an. Act to revise the law in relationship to recorders. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 882, Macdonald. A Bill for an Act to amend the Mental Health and Developmental Disability Confidentiality Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981 Bill 883, Macdonald. A Bill for an Act in relationship to the disclosure of medical and mental health records. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 926, Terzich. A Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 940, O'Connell. A Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Abortion Law. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1047, Jim Kelley. A Bill for an Act to amend the Vital Records Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1048, Jim Kelley. A Bill for an Act to amend the Vital Records Act. First Reading of the Bill."

"Committee Reports."

"Representative Pullen, Chairman from the Committee on Executive to which the following Bills were referred, action taken on May 28, 1981. Reported the same back with the following recommendations: Be adopted, House Resolution 212. Do not adopt as amended, House Joint Resolution 9."

"Introduction, First Readings."

"House Bill 1907, E. G. Steele. A Bill for an Act relating to the preparation of financial statements by certain public officials. First Reading of the Bill."

"Read the Journal."

"House Journal, 36th Legislative Day, May 7, 1981. Twelve O'Clock, noon "

"Representative Collins."

"Mr. Speaker, I move that we dispense with the reading of the Journal and that Journal #36, May 7, 837 of May 8, and #38 of May 11, 1981 be approved as read."

"All in favor say 'aye', all opposed.. Amendment passes. Motion passes. Anything else? June 8, is the last day for Senate Bills to be reported out of House Committees. You want to make the motion? June 29, will be alright with me. Somebody might go in default but that's 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981 alright. The Chair would now call on the Chairman of the various Committees to ask for appropriate leave or vote or not leave of the House in order to suspend.. the posting rules SO that the Senate Bills can be heard. On that point, Representative Madigan."

"Mr. Speaker, would the Chair person indicate whether he or she has talked with the Minority Spokesman regarding this suspension of the posting requirements."

"The person that is the Chairman of the Committee. As we call on them we will be happy to put the question."

"My request was, rather than ask us on each occasion had you talked with the Minority Spokesman, would they simply state as part of their Motion whether they had discussed this action with the Minority Spokesman on the Committee."

"Sure. Okay. Representative Wolf. Nothing? Representative Huskey, Motor Vehicles."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I have the Minority Spokesman alongside of me here and he's in agreement with me. I would like to....well, I know where he is. I would like to ask to remove the appropriate rules to hear in Committee, Tuesday, in Motor Vehicles Committee, Tuesday, Senate Bill 53, Senate Bill 173, 388, 401, 429, 462, 491, 543, 544, 625, 666, 1106 and Senate Bill 197."

"You've heard the Gentleman's Motion. He asks leave for the attendance roll call. Is leave granted? Leave being granted, the rule is suspended.. Representative Epton, Insurance. I'm going to take these in the role that I've got on the list. The Vice Chairman, Representative Birkinbine. Insurance."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On behalf of Chairman, Epton. I ask leave of the appropriate rule to have heard 32  52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1981. in Committee, Senate Bills 592, 662, 912, 913, 914, 929, 1062, 1073, 1109 and 1173. I do not know whether or not Representative Epton had a chance to talk to Spokesman O'Brien."

"Representative O'Brien. O'Brien.":

"Yes, Representative Epton and myself did talk, we have no objection whatsoever to waiving the rules so...for posting."

"The Gentleman has.... Representative Matijevich for what purpose do you rise?"

"For the record, I would like to publicly say, I know when we had House Bills in House Committees, some of the Committee Chairmen waited until a Sponsor had the request that their Bills be heard. This was a departure from what we've done for two Sessions and I was wondering if they're doing the same with regards to Senate Bills. Because I think the better procedure is just to post the Bills. We know that ever House Sponsor of every Senate Bill wants their Bills to be heard in Committee and I was wondering as a public position, are we going to post all of the Bills in Committees that are Senate Bills."

"I would assume that will be done. Now all the Bills are not going to come here till June 1, that the last day in the Senate. The... you heard the Gentleman's Motion in regard to the Bills posted for the Insurance Committee. Does the Gentleman have leave for use of the attendance roll call. Representative Brummer on that question."

"Yes, I don't think he indicated, or if he did, I did not hear when the hearing was scheduled."

"The Gentleman wants to know when the meeting...the schedule...ordinary, regular day? Regular day."

"Does he know what date that is?" 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981

"Tuesday, June 2, D-1 Stratton Building, 2:00 P.M."

"Thank you."

"City and Villages, Representative Wikoff."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Having checked with the Minority Spokesman and the Minority Leader, I would waive...ask leave to waive the appropriate rules, let Senate Bills 436, 737 and 1175 could be heard in Cities and Villages at 2:00 on...room 114 on Tuesday, June 2."

"You've heard the Gentleman's motion, he asks leave to use the Attendance Roll Call. Does he have leave? Leave granted.. Conservation and Natural Resources, Representative Macdonald."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the absence of the Minority Spokesman but with the approval of the Minority Leader, I would like to suspend the appropriate rule to have Senate Bills 581, 721, 899 and 900 heard next Tuesday in Conservation and Natural Resource Committee."

"You've heard the Lady's motion, she asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call. On that question, Representative Johnson. No. Does the Lady has leave? The rule is suspended. Health and Family Services, Representative Barnes. I'm going to call them on the list I have here on. Representative Barnes."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House.. I would like to suspend the appropriate rule, I have checked with the Minority Spokesman and ask permission to have Senate Bills, 61, 181, 220, 224, 484, 524, 631, 655, 689, 702, 1029 and 1078, and the meeting will be held next Tuesday, at 4 o'clock in room 114."

"You've heard the Lady's motion. The Lady ask leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call. Does the Lady have leave? No objection, leave being granted, the rule is 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981 suspended. Public Institutions and Social Services, Representative Catania."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I ask leave to suspend the posting rule so that all the Senate Bills that have been assigned to Public Institutions and Social Services Committee may be posted to be heard next Tuesday afternoon at 4:00 P.M. in room 118. The Minority Spokesperson has no objections."

"Representative Catania, we need the number of the Bills."

"I don't have it with me."

"I think the Clerk is going to have problems."

"Staff says, they don't have it here."

"I think we're going to have problems."

"Well, I assume staff has it somewhere, maybe they can find it."

"On that question, Representative Meyer." Meyer, Ted: "Yes, Mr. Speaker, I've been talking to Representative Schraeder and I have personal knowledge of Bills that are still over in the Senate pending, I can assume will go to our Committee. They're dealing with coal and how can we suspend a rule for Bills that we don't have."

"We can't." Meyer, Ted: "Well, what is the posture of those Bills?"

"The rules can only be suspended for those Bills that have been assigned....assigned by the Committee on assignments. Any other numbers that might have been thrown in....just don't belong there and the Clerk and Committee Chairman in Committees will take note of that. Representative Catania, let's take yours out until we figure out: what to do. Agriculture, Representative Rigney." 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day

"Mr. Speaker, I would like to May 29, 1981 suspend the posting regulation for Senate Bills 764 and 1084, unfortunately our Minority Spokesman is not here and I have not been able to talk to him."

"You've heard the Gentleman's motion, does he have leave for use of the Attendance Roll.Call? Being no objection, he has leave. The rule is suspended for those Bills posted in the Committee on Agriculture. Committee on Revenue, Representative Bwing. The Vice Chairman, Representative Bell."

"Mr. Speaker, the Minority Spokesman is not here, the Minority Leader has suspend....to suspend the Committee for Wednesday, hear the following Bills. 176, 199, 228, 257, 305, 440, 443, 477,486, 494, 580, 611, 633, 672, 771, 909." given permission to move the appropriate rules for Revenue June 3, 8:00 A.Н., room 114 to Senate Bill 17, 26, 148, 154,

"You've heard the Gentleman's motion. He asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call. Is leave granted? Leave is granted, rule is suspended in regard to the posting for the Committee on Revenue.. Judiciary I, Representative Johnson. Vice Chairman."

Representative Johnson: "Yeah, Mr. Speaker. and Members, Leinenveber has asked me to seek unanimous: leave, ve've conferred as far as we can with the Minority Spokesman but I don't think Representative Jaffe is here. I know of no objections.. I would ask...is Representative Jaffe here? Would ask unanimous leave to suspend the appropriate posting requirements so that the following Bills can be heard on June 3, Wednesday at 9:00A.M. Senate Bills 88, 116, 147, 208, 226, 267, 300, 355, 358, 377, 527, 542, 547, 607, 876 and 942. And I would so move."

Speaker Peters: "Do you have all of those, Mr. Clerk? You've 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981 heard the Gentleman's motion, he asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call. Does the Gentleman have leave? Leave granted, the rule is suspended in regard to the Bills posted for Judiciary I. Elementary and Secondary Education, Chairman Reilly. Reilly.".

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I ask leave to use the Attendance Roll Call for a motion to suspend the posting rules for Senate Bill 62, 174, 498, 548, 549, 597, 612, 617, 641, 647, 723, 733, 765, 766, 781, 782, 783 and 788, which are all the Bills that are assigned to us so far. We will meet Wednesday at 8 o'clock, our regular time in room 118 in the Capitol. I assume I have to do this again Monday or Tuesday for a subsequent meeting later in the week."

"You've heard the Gentleman's motion.. The Gentleman ask leave for the... use of the Attendance Roll Call. Does the Gentleman have leave? Leave granted, the rule is suspended in regard to the postings for Elementary and Secondary Education. Labor and Commerce, Representative Schuneman. Representative Schuneman, Labor and Commerce. Schuneman, Labor and Commerce." Schuneman; "Yes, Mr. Speaker, the House Committee on Labor and Commerce is scheduled to meet at 2:00P.M., in room 114.on Wednesday and we would ask leave to suspend the posting rule as respect to Bills that are assigned to our Committee. And those Bills are, House Bill 168...or Senate Bill rather 168, 546, 1081, 483, 221, 89, 579, 585, 703. Representative Farley, who is the Spokesman on that Committee is not in the chamber so I didn't have a chance to talk to him."

"On that question, Representative.... Representative Madigan."

"Mr. Speaker, I object to this request for leave." 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981

"The Gentleman objects to the request for leave. It will take 107 votes. Those in favor of the Gentleman's motion will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'nay'.. What do you want? Representative Kane for what purpose do you rise?"

"Unless this is on the Calendar, doesn't it require unanimous consent?"

"Well, I don't think it's going to get 107 votes, do you?" :

"Well, I think we ought to abide by the rules."

"You're right...you're right...you're right."

"Okay."

"Representative Schuneman on the question."

"Well, Mr. Speaker..."

"I "Dump this Roll Call." understand that...that some of these Bills may or may not be controversial and I don't believe the Gentleman on the other side really know whether they are or not at this point. But the...I would simply point out to you that the only purpose of your objection on this is to delay the Committee meeting, we still will be able to post and have the Committee meeting and these Bills will be heard. So, I would ask you to reconsider this position....all you're doing is requiring the House to schedule a later Committee meeting. Because there's plenty of time to have hearings before..."

Calendar. Speaker Peters: "The Gentleman has objected. It has to be on the All it takes is one person to.... Representative Friedrich on this question." Friedrich, D.: "If the Minority Leader presists, I will now tell you in advance, I will object to suspend the rule for any Democrat Bill that comes over here after. Nov, he's delaying the process of Legislation, these people have a 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981 right to hear their Bills, he knows what the deadline is and I'm going to tell you now that I will look up the Bills and no Democrat Bill will get suspension. If you want to play the game, I'll play it too."

"Representative. Friedrich, that's your right. Representative Madigan."

"Mr. Speaker, every Members of the House realizes that Bills concerning unemployment insurance are highly partisan in nature. There are two Bills on. Mr. Schuneman's list which deal with the issue of unemployment insurance, Representative NcPike suggested to Mr. Schuneman that he delete the two Bills dealing with unemployment insurance and then we would not object to all of the other Bills. Mr. Schuneman rejected that suggestion. If you wish to move ahead with the Bills that do not deal with unemployment insurance, we have no objection."

"Representative Schuneman."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, the Gentleman is correct. That suggestion was made to me but that really doesn't solve the problem, Representative. These Bills are.. going to be heard, the only question is, whether they're going to be heard in our regular meeting on Wednesday of if they will be heard at some later time. And, you know, frankly I think that your tactics are in the nature of dilatory and they're going to fail but, if you're going to persist then I'm sure you're within your rights." Speaker Peters: : Representative Schuneman, you are correct in what you're saying, the Minority Leader is correct in what he is saying. Representative Friedrich is right in expressing the right he has as a Hember. There is objection made to Labor and Commerce. Counties and Townships, Chairman Achaster. What do you seek recognition for, Representative Giorgi?". 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1981 52nd Legislative Day

"r. Speaker, I would like to remind the House that the Rules Committee refused to listen to Senior Citizen Bill..."

"Representative Giorgi, I don't want to get into a Rules Committee, I want to get through with Representative McMaster's, we'll take all your objections up at the end. Representative McMaster, Counties and Townships."

"ar. Speaker, I now ask leave for the Attendance Roll Call to suspend the appropriate posting rules for Bills #172 and 420 and all other Bills that have and or are being assigned to Counties and Township Committee. There is a rather long list and I did not see until about 2 o'clock this afternoon, I do not have it over here with me...."

"Representative Madigan."

"Mr. Speaker, I will object to any...."

"The Gentleman makes objections."

"Mr. Speaker, please. I will object to any request to suspend posting requirements for Bills that are not in possession of the Committee."

"The Gentleman is correct in that objection. Representative Nchaster. Representative Collins., Let us remind the Chairmen, the only Bills you can post are those Bills that have been assigned to your Committee. We do not dealin futoral..."

"Hr. Speaker..."

"Or preconception. Representative Collins."

"Well, you're references to birth control aside, Mr. Speaker, Ι..."

"I'm attempting a prophylactic jester."

"I have one I may return to you, Sir. I would assume that if, Mr. Speaker, I would assume that if there are any Bills that have already been read into these motions, that 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981 have not been assigned to the Committees by the Committee on Assignment, they would be routinely removed from these motions?"

"The Clerk will be so instructed."

"Thank you."

"Representative McHaster to restate your motion."

"To restate my motion then, Mr. Speaker. Only those Bills that have been presently assigned to the Committee and there are some fifteen or more Bills that have been assigned to the Committee. I did not get a complete list from the Committee on Assignment of Bills until this afternoon sometime, the list is over in my office, I have conferred with the Minority Spokesman of this Committee in front of two witnesses and he has agreed to the posting of the Bills that have been assigned to us. Now, may I have the Attendance Roll Call?"

"Representative Hadigan. Did she give him the list, alright. Alright he's getting the list of numbers. The Gentleman ask leave for the use of the Attendance Roll Call for suspension of the rule.. On that question, Representative Kane."

"The rules specifically say, that this rule cannot be suspended except for specifically enumerated Bills, by number and I think that there is more than simply the convenience of the House...."

"Representative McMaster."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The notice of the hearing was stamped, May 28, 1981. Now I assume that was Thursday and I think that is sufficient time then for the posting without any suspension of the rules."

"The Gentleman withdraws his motion. Energy and Environment, Representative Meyer." Meyer, Ted: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to suspend the 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981 appropriate rules....posting rules for Senate Bills 171, 899, 900, 1167 and 1193, the Committee meeting of Energy and Environment will be held, Wednesday, June 3, at 2:00 P.M. in room 118. And I have consulted with Representative Schraeder and he is in agreement."

"The Gentleman asks leave for the use of the Attendance Roll Call. On that question, Representative Darrow."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I have a question that's result of Representative Friedrich's objection to any Democratic Bills. Are we playing a political game here or will we have..."

"Representative Friedrich has made no objections to this point."

"Alright, fine. I have no objection."

"No objection, leave is granted. The rule is suspended in regard to Energy and Environment. The Elections, Representative Winchester."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would ask for unanimous leave to suspend the posting requirement in order to hear Senate Bills 790, 791, 794. Elections Committee meets Wednesday at 2 o'clock in C-1. I discussed it with the Minority Spokesman and the Assistant Minority Spokesman, since the Minority....since Representative Laurino is not on the floor and they both agreed that it's okay. I would ask for leave."

"On that... the Gentleman asks leave, you've heard his motion. He asks leave for the Attendance Roll Call. On that question, Representative Kane."

"Would the Gentleman yield to a question?"

"Representative Winchester, a question."

"Yes."

"Is the primary Lockup Bill involved in that, in any of 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981 those Bills?"

"I....I really don't know, Representative. I haven't looked at the Bills other than the Sponsor, they are all three represented....Sponsored by Representative Lemke...Senator Lemke, I'm sorry and I don't know. I can't tell you."

"Okay, until you can tell me then I would object."

"The Gentleman objects. Talk to Senator Lemke. The Bill shall not be posted. No, let Kane, talk. to him. Public Utilities, Chairman Abramson. Vice Chairman Kucharski. No postings. Higher Education, Chairman Hudson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would ask unanimous leave to suspend the appropriate posting rules so that the following Bills might be heard at 4:00P.M., in room C-1, on June 3. I have checked with the Minority Leader, he has granted his okay in the absence of Representative McGrew. The following Bills, Senate Bill 139, 373, 605, 685 and 686."

"You've heard the Gentleman's motion. He asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call. Is there objection? There being none, the rule is suspended for the Bills for Higher Education for the following week. Veterans' Affairs, Personnel and Pensions, Representative McAuliffe."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I consulted with Representative DiPrima and I would ask to suspend the appropriate....the appropriate rules to hear House.... Senate Bills 512, 513, 558, 559, 560, 587, 593, 599, 694, 696, 724, 726, 729 and 1113, in Committee on Wednesday, at 4:00P.M."

"On that question, Representative DiPrima."

"No objections on my part, Mr. Speaker."

"On that question, Representative Yourell." 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day

May 29, 1981 "Just an inquire of the Chair. Personnel, Pensions of Veterans' Affairs is posted on the Calendar of today for 1, 2, 3, 4, Bills and I heard a lot of Bills that were not...not posted for next week. So, I don't think that motion is necessary. He doesn't need leave, does he?"

"Representative McAuliffe, take a look on page 11, of the Calendar. 1222, 108 and 412. Are there Bills in addition to that? There are Bills in addition to that, Representative Yourell, so what he would be asking for is leave to post those Bills that are not already on the posting notice."

"They've been assigned?"

"They've been assigned.. You've heard the Gentleman's motion, does he have leave? Leaves granted, the rule is suspended. Registration and Regulation, Vice Chairman Watson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask leave for Attendance Roll Call to suspend the appropriate rule in regard to the posting requirements for Registration, Regulation Committee, meeting Wednesday, June 3, at 4:00 P.M. in room D-1 in the Stratton Building. The Following Bills, Senate Bill 487, 577, 610, 650, 651, 769, 1034, 1143 and 1148. We cleared this through the Minority Leader."

"You've heard the Gentleman's motion. He asks leave for the use of the Attendance Roll Call. Is there objection? There being none, leave is granted, the rule is suspended in regard to those Bills posted for Registration and Regulation.. State Government. Organization, Representative Davis. No requests. Transportation, Chairman Neff."

"Mr. Speaker, all Bills that have been assigned to Transportation have been posted."

"I'm sorry, Representative, I didn't...no 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981 requests?"

"No request, all Bills assigned to Transportation have been posted."

"Financial Institutions, Chairman McBroom."

"Mr. Speaker, when you get time can you get back to me in just a minute."

"Yes, Sir. Representative Catania, do you have your list? Public Institutions Social Services, Chairman Catania."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker...."

"Excuse me, are the Clerks listening? Go ahead."

"I ask for leave for unanimous consent to suspend the posting rule so that we can post Senate Bills 23, 186, 1006, 1095 and 1198 to be heard in Public Institutions and Social Services Committee, Tuesday afternoon at 4:00 P.M., room 118. Representative Satterthwaite has no objections."

"The Lady asks leave. On that question, Representative Friedrich." Friedrich, D.: "I want to object to 23 and 186, please."

"The Gentleman objects to 23 and..." Friedrich, D: "186."

"186. Representative Darrow for what purpose..."

"I object to every other Bills there."

"There has been objections raised to the entire post...there has been objection to the entire posting for Public Institutions and Social Services. Objections by Representative Darrow. Financial Institutions, Chairman McBroom."

"Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, I hope you can hear me, I'm losing my voice. I've discussed the matter with Representative Leon and I would ask unanimous consent leave of the House to suspend the appropriate rule for the posting of the following Bills. 426, 434, 469, 525, 578, 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981. 1056, 1097 and 761."

"You've heard the Gentleman's motion, he asks leave for the... Representative Wolf." Wolf, J.J.: "I object to posting of Senate Bill 761."

"Representative Darrow."

"Mr. Speaker, I hate to do this, this is being ridiculous and we're hurting our own Members...."

"Representative..."

"Bills..."

"Representative Darrow, objects...."

"Unless they want..."

"To the posting of all Bills for Financial Institutions. Fine. Judiciary II, Chairman Stearney. Representative Daniels."

"In Representative Stearney's absence I would move that posting rules be suspended for Senate Bills 448, 450, 490, 515, 516, 530, 601, 602, 618 and 623."

"Any objections? The Gentleman asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call. Is there objection? There being none, leave is granted and the posting notices for the Bills in Jud II for the coming week are suspended. Did the Chair call everyone? Does anyone else seek recognition on....does anyone else seek recognition on this matter? Representative DiPrima on...for purposes of an announcement."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I wanted to give a final report on the Poppy Day."

"We eagerly await it."

"I know you've all been anxiously awaiting the report. Well, I want to thank Taylor Pouncey, who chaired the group that collected on the Democratic side with Jeanie Chapman, Laz Murphy and Eddie Kornowicz. And Eddie.... Bob Pechous, Pechous incidentally is from that powerful allegence 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981 district that I spoke about yesterday which....where he runs in Cicero and Berwin, yeah. And on the Republican side of course we had, Bill Collins, Jake Wolf, Ray Hudson and Ben Polk. Now, here's the donars, like I said, five.....who won the bicycle? Danny O'Brien, he needs it."

"The Gentleman requires no flack."

"Now, the bag of marbles was won by Dolly Hallstrom. She donated ten dollars for the Poppies, Dolly Hallstrom. Penny Pullen. Jeff Holden, from the Illinois Medical Society. Now the five dollar donars, John Hallock, Clarence Neff, Herb Huskey, Glenn Bower, Bob Barr, Virginia Frederick, Ben Polk, Cal Schuneman, Ray Hudson, Past District Commander from the 11th District from the American Legion. Eddie Doyle, Rich Brummer, Chuck Cassel. from the Telephone Company, Mi Mike Getty, Bob Pechous, Joe Ebbesen, Everett Steele, Clyde Robbins, Virginia Macdonald, Phil Collins, Randy Witter from Illinois Governmental Affairs, Illinois Association of Realtors, Phil Bianco, Carl Sodistrum, Bob Meyer. Who's this from...Who? Lee Daniels, twenty dollars from Lee Daniels. You'll get the bicycle. Alright, that...that concludes the thing and I'm really indebted to all: of you for having given me your support....oh, we collected close to five hundred dollars now with this. Beats all the records. Listen, I won't be able to give them this until next week so I'm going to hang on to it until we come back in. Thank you."

"Representative Friedrich, for what purpose do you rise?" Friedrich, D.: "I just want to say, if the Minority Leader wants to reconsider his irresponsible actions, I'll withdraw my objection on the Bills that are to be heard next week. We need to get this done."

"The Minority Leader indicates that he is firm in 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1981 52nd Legislative Day his position." Friedrich, D.: "So am I."

"Just....Representative O'Brien. Representative McBroom."

"Mr. Speaker, I guess there's confus....some confusion here. I've been discussing this with Representative Leon, the Bills in Financial Institutions have been posted, they were posted before noon today.. The meeting is next Thursday..."

"The objections of Representative Wolf and Darrow, are withdrawn, the Bills are properly posted for hearing in Financial Institutions. Senate Bills, Third Reading. House Bill 125, Representative. Leinenweber. Senate Bill. Did I say Senate? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1023, Representative J. J. Wolf."

"Senate Bill 1023, a Bill for an Act to amend the Department of Registration, Education, FY-81 Appropriations Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Wolf." Wolf, J. J.: "Hove for its adoption."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of House Bill 1023, is there any discussion? Senate Bill.1023., Is there any discussion? Representative Lechovicz."

"Well, I just want to stand to encourage this side of the aisle to support this Bill. If this Bill loses it effects the credit rating of the State of Illinois. We probably drop from a triple A, to an A, or lower if this Bill is not passed."

"Any further discussion? Representative Wolf, any instructions for our side of the aisle?" Wolf, J. J.: "Well, I only wish the opposite side of the aisle had a...the same verber for passage of Appropriation Bills." 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day

"Representative Daniels." May 29, 1981 "I was just wondering, if this Bill were to fail, would it effect the credit rating of Chicago?"

"Representative Wolf." Wolf, J. J.: "Unfortunately, no."

"But if....isn't this on all bonded indebtedness of the State of Illinois and would effect those bonds that we guarantee, the State of Illinois guaranteed? So, in that way it could effect the City of Chicago?" Wolf, J. J.: "The answer is, yes, indirectly."

"But those of us from the suburbs will:once again help you out from Chicago and we'll support it."

"On the question, Representative John Dunn." Dunn, John: "Just for the edification. Members on this side of the aisle, if the Bill passes it may help Bill Foster, so I would recommend an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Wolf, out of the record? Where are we at on this?" Wolf, J.J.: "I think we're at the stage of passage. I would really like to take it out of the record but I think we ought to go ahead with it. It's the responsible thing to do."

"We can always do it Monday. Or Tuesday. The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1023 pass?' Senate Bill. Senate Bill 1023. All those in favor will vote 'aye', those opposed will vote 'nay'. Representative Conti on the question."

"Yes, I don't want to explain my vote, I want to express it."

"I think that....Have all voted who wish? Take the record. Take the record. 126 voting 'aye', 2 voting 'nay', 1 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OP REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 1 52nd Legislative Day May 29, 1981 Representative Leon wishes to be recorded as voting 'aye'. Does the Gentlemen have leave? Leave. Add the Gentleman to the Roll Call. Representative Collins for the purposes of a motion."

"Kr. Speaker, I move that the House stand adjourn until Monday, June 1, at the hour of 4:00P.M."

"You've heard the Gentleman's motion.. All those in favor will signify by saying 'aye', opposed. The 'ayes' have it, the House is adjourned....Mrs. Smith, for an announcement before ve leave. Give the Lady your attention." Smith, Μ.: "Would you...would you please register me as voting 'aye'."

"Add the Lady as 'aye' to the last Roll Call. Monday...and Representative Younge. Monday, 4:00 o'clock." 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 29, 1981. PAGE 1 HB-0588 3RD READING PAGE 2 HB-0589 3RD READING PAGE 15 HB-0673 3RD READING PAGE 19 HB-0697 3RD READING PAGE 21. HB-1907 1ST READING PAGE 31 SB-0155 1ST READING PAGE 28 SB-0218 1ST READING PAGE 28 SB-0230 1ST READING PAGE 28 SB-0231 1ST READING PAGE 28 SB-0232 1ST READING PAGE 28 SB-0233 1ST READING PAGE 28 SB-0234 1ST READING PAGE 28 SB-0235 1ST READING PAGE 28 SB-0236 1ST READING PAGE 29 SB-0238 1ST READING PAGE 29 SB-0270 1ST READING PAGE 29 SB-0274 1ST READING PAGE 29 SB-0316 1ST READING PAGE 29 SB-0320 1ST READING PAGE 29 SB-0321 1ST READING PAGE 29 SB-0322 1ST READING PAGE 29 SB-0323 1ST READING PAGE 29 SB-0324 1ST READING PAGE 29. SB-0325 1ST READING PAGE 29 SB-0328 1ST READING PAGE 30 SB-0336 1ST READING PAGE 30 SB-0337 1ST READING PAGE 30 SB-0347 1ST READING PAGE 30 SB-0468 1ST READING PAGE 30 SB-0518 1ST READING PAGE 30 SB-0535 1ST READING PAGE 30 SB-0568 1ST READING PAGE 30 SB-0569 1ST READING PAGE 30 SB-0639 1ST READING PAGE 30 SB-0798 1ST READING PAGE 30 SB-0800 1ST READING PAGE 30 SB-0882 1ST READING PAGE 30 SB-0883 1ST READING PAGE 31 SB-0926 1ST READING PAGE 31 SB-0940 1ST READING PAGE 31 SB-1023 3RD READING PAGE 48 SB-10311ST READING. PAGE 28 SB-1047 1ST READING PAGE 31 SB-1048 1ST READING PAGE 31 *HJR-0013 2ND READING PAGE 21 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE AT EASE SPEAKER PETERS HOUSE TO ORDER SPEAKER PETERS PRAYER SISTER SIENA PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE EXCUSED ABSENCE POLL OF ABSENTEES MESSAGE FROM SENATE COMMITTEE REPORTS SUSPENSION OF RULES CHANGE OF VOTE ADJOURNMENT PAGE 1 PAGE 1 PAGE 1 PAGE 2 PAGE 2 PAGE 2 PAGE 19 PAGE 27 PAGE 31 PAGE 32 PAGE 50 PAGE 50