Illinois House Floor Debate — June 19, 1981

"The House will come to order and the Members will please be in their seats. The prayer this morning will be by the Chaplain, Doctor William Nichols from the Central Christian Church in Decatur, Illinois."

"Let us pray. O God and Father whose children are all by right of birth, brothers and sisters to each other. It frightens us when we realize what great power has been placed at our finger tips. The power by which we may help or hurt great numbers of people. Forgive us for any selfish or carelessuses of that power. Grant O Lord to all the leaders in our Government the wisdom to seek what is right and the courage to do it. May learning, education, politics and prosperity all be directed to good ends and may godliness and integrity among all of us lead to peace in this House, in our country and in our world. Forgive us the lack of discipline that passes for broad mindedness, the apathy that calls itself tolerance. The materialism which hides behind the cloak of prosperity and grasps for more. It is so easy for our opinions to become inflamed with stuborn pride so that we neither listen to nor care about equally strong feelings and opinions of others. Help us to know that it is never a sign of indecisiveness when we are willing to listen to others. And never in evidence of weakness when we treat with courteous and kindness even those with whom we have great philosophical differences. Let peace rule this House today, O God and in the concord of brotherly and sisterly spirit, may the differences of mind and method be resolved. And may your gracious, forgiving and loving spirit be here today. Amen."

"An appropriate prayer. This morning we will be lead in the Pledge by Representative Laz Murphy."

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United State of 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Representative McGrew, for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the confusion, I've seem to have lost my key...I finally found it, thank you."

"Alright will the Clerk be sure that you're on."

"I found it."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a distinguished visitor with us this morning. He is currently the Grand Chief de Guerre for the State of Illinois of the Forty and Eight. This is an honor society originated after World War I, and it's named the Society of the Forty and Eight. That means forty horses and eight men, quarante hommes et huit chauvaux. And that's all my French. Anyway, he was also a past State Commander of the American Legion, my good friend Eddie 'Shaugh'. Eddie."

"Thank you, very much. Ladies and Gentlemen I'm very pleased to back up here again. Nine years ago it was my pleasure and honor to be allowed to speak and say hello and extend greetings from the American Legion. This time I'm back from the Forty and Eight and I'm going to reverse Larry's story. It's forty men or eight horses. That shows how little he knows of the French. But we're very pleased that you are continuing to remembering the veterans and we hope you will always do so. I'm not going to take anymore time, I know how busy you are. Thank you, very much and keep up the good work. Thank you."

"Take the record, Mr. Clerk. Excused absences. Representative Giorgi."

"Mr. Speaker, let the records show that Representative Redmond is excused because of his wifes illness. And Representative Capparelli, he wasn't excused yesterday, he 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 should be excused yesterday and today because his daughter is getting married tomorrow."

"Representative Collins, excused absences."

"Mr. Speaker, may the record show that Representative Margalus is excused because of illness."

"All right we're to go the the Order of House Bills, Third Reading, Short Debates. Senate Bills, Short Debate. Senate Bill 253."

"Senate Bill 253, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to state monies. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Knox, Representative McGrew. Is the Gentleman on the floor? Let the records show that a quorum is present. The Gentleman from Knox, Representative McGrew."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 253 is fairly simple in context, what it does is allow the treasurer to count guaranteed student loan monies as collateral when determining a banks accessibility as receiver of state funds. The rationale for this particular Bill is that credit the Federal Government guarantees each student loan against the borrowers default, therefore, it is certainly a viable program and should be allowed to do so. Also, I adopted an Amendment #1 that said that the Veterans Commission shall prorate all 1982 dollars after paying 1981 claims. I would ask for its adoption."

"The Gentleman from Winnebago, Representative Hallock."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield for a question?"

"He indicates that he will."

"Representative McGrew, in this day and age when a lot 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 of student loans aren't being paid, how can that be good security for the State Treasurer when we're not sure these loans will in fact be repaid?"

"Because they are guaranteed to the State of Illinois by the Federal Government, Sir."

"Well, it seems to me like the Feds have had the same trouble we've had in collecting these loans."

"That's their problem."

"I agree, it's their problem, it seems like it's our problem too. Do you have anything in the Bill which you would suggest would insure that we in fact would get good security and not just a shallow loan?"

"Absolutely, yesterday I passed House...excuse me, Senate Bill 23...well anyway we passed a Senate Bill for the collection of the guaranteed loan program and it even stops students from getting out of it by trying to declare bankruptcy upon their graduation where didn't...that they say we owe more money that we're worth and try to file under Chapter 7 or 13. And we are trying to move toward the collections of it but, nonetheless, this will only address the section that is the Federal guaranteed loan."

"Thank you very much."

"You're welcome."

"Is there further discussion? The Gentleman from Knox to close."

"I think I have explained it, thank you very much."

"The question is, 'shall Senate Bill 253 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye' the opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Take the record. Pechous, 'aye'. On this question there are 118 'ayes', 3 voting 'no', 6 answering 'present'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. Representative Beatty for what purpose do you 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day rise, Sir?" June 19, 1981

"Well, Mr. Speaker in the mess we had last night, I'm not certain of what I'm saying but, it would appear to me that on our Calendar maybe in error you've got House Bills Third Reading 1902 and 1903. Now if my recollection is correct at least one of these did not pass until after midnight and I would...."

"You're correct, Sir."

"In this position, I don't think they...."

"They won't be called today. Your are correct."

"Alright, thank you."

"Senate Bill 464."

"Senate Bill...."

"Is Representative Schneider on the floor? Representative Schneider. Take that out....well you know where he is? Well let's take it out of the record for now, we'll get back to him. Senate Bill 546. Is Representative Schuneman on the floor? I don't see Representative Schuneman, take that out of the record. Senate Bill 6...no. Senate Bill 633, out of the record. Representative Ewing, do you want Senate Bill 633 called. Is he there? Oh, no, okay. Senate Bill 697. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 697, a Bill for an Act to amend State Employees Group Insurance Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative J. J. Wolf. That's Senate Bill 697. Short Debate. Representative Barkhausen, for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"

"Well, Mr. Speaker...Mr. Speaker, I don't really like to do this but we had some questions about this Bill the other day. I don't think it should be on Short Debate. I would asked to be joined by some colleauges to take it off 5  67th Legislative Day Short Debate." STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 19, 1981

"Is the Gentleman joined by ten Members? Take it off of Short Debate. Representative J. J. Wolf." Wolf, J.J.: "Out of the record."

"Take it out of the record. Senate Bill 731, Representative White. Representative Ewing for what purpose do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, just as I was at the top of the stairs you had my Bill 66..."

"633."

"633, if you wish to call it I would be glad..."

"Alright. Senate Bill 633, will the Clerk please read it."

"Senate Bill 633, a Bill for an Act to amend the Service Use Tax Act, the Service Occupation Tax Act and the Retailer's Occupation Tax Act, Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Livingston, Representative Ewing."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This piece of legislation does a couple of things. First of all, Senator Berman in the Senate proposed this piece of legislation which puts a statute limitation on the liability of directors of corporations for....that go defunct for any unpaid use in sales tax. Now, not normally would a director even be liable for corporate use or sales tax but if for some reason they are liable the statute limitation would be two years which would be a normal statute limitation. There is also an Amendment on the Bill which clears up the sales tax exemption for equipment for unitized gasification program in the State of Illinois. And I think this was debated somewhat thoroughly on Second Reading and I would ask for the adoption of the Bill."

"Is there any opposition? The Gentleman from 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 19, 1981 67th Legislative Day Cook, Representative Cullerton."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I know we're on Short Debate, Mr. Speaker but I would like to find out from the Sponsor who indicated that Amendment #3 having to do with expanding the sales tax exemption to include coal gasification facilities. What effect did the...that Amendment which changed the title of the Act, what effect did that Amendment have on Amendment #1 of Representative Pierce? Did that, in effect, eliminate Amendment #1 of Representative Pierce or is Representative Pierce's Amendment still operative?"

"No, it did not eliminate it. That was just put on to make it...our Bill comply with his Amendment. We had to table one Amendment and put on another Amendment because after Representative Pierce's Amendment was adopted ours... Bill, our Amendment was out of order."

"Could you just simply tell us what the cost impact is of expanding the sales tax exemption to include coal gasification facilities?"

"Well it's...I have no cost on it because there's only one unit in the state that hasn't been built yet. It isn't completed, we don't know what the cost is going to be and it just clears up how they're going to give the exemption."

"Just where is it located? Somewhere..."

"It's in Southern Illinois."

"Where is it?"

"Southern Illinois, not in my district."

"Fine. Thank you."

"Is there further discussion? Does the Gentleman wish to close?"

"I would just ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 633 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', the opposed by 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On this question there are 130 'ayes', no 'nays', none answering 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Stiehl for what purpose do you rise?" Stiehl, C.M.: "Would you vote me 'aye', please."

"Record the Lady as voting 'aye'. Alright now... Representative Jaffe wants to be voted 'aye'. Now... Representative Carey, 'aye'. When we're presiding... Representative Mays, 'aye'. We're going to try and take those records and move along. Senate Bill 731. Is Representative White on the floor? Representative White. Take that out of the record. Representative Terzich on the floor? Senate Bill 791, will the Clerk please read it."

"Senate Bill 791, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to campaign financial disclosure. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentlemen from Cook, Representative Terzich."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This amends the Campaign Disclosure Article of the Election Code. It defines 'candidate' to include persons seeking retention to public office, and expands the definition of 'person' to include various organizations; raises the reporting threshold from fifteen hundred....from one thousand to fifteen hundred dollars. It authorizes the filing of non-participation statements in lieu of report of inactive political committees. It also raises the amount for reporting of itemization of contribution, expenditures from one fifty to two hundred and fifty dollars. It came out of the Committee 12 to nothing on a unanimous vote and I would appreciate your support." 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 19, 1981 67th Legislative Day

"Any discussion? The question is, 'shall Senate Bill 791 pass'? All those in favor signify by voting 'aye' the oppose by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On this question there are 142 'ayes', 5 voting 'no', none answering 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. Representative Zito, 'aye'. I'm sorry..."

"Mr. Speaker..."

"For what purpose you rise, Sir?"

"A point of information."

"Sure."

"Did the Chair rule that we were going to return to Priority of Call at all today? Is that the Chairs intent?"

"No, Representative. We're on Senate Bills, Third Reading Short Debate, going right down the Calendar in numerical sequence. Representative Davis wishes to be recorded 'aye' on the last Roll Call. Senate Bill 848, will the Clerk please read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 848, a Bill for an Act in relationship to work programs for public aid recipients. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Ronan."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. This is basically a non controversial piece of legislation. It passed out of the Senate unanimously 53 to nothing. What it does is, that it says it authorizes the Department of Public Aid to establish work programs for public aid recipients. Basically, AFDC recipients and general assistance recipients. The goal of the legislation is to encourage people to go to work so they can gather job skills and hopefully get off the public aid roles and become productive members of society. I move for the.."

"Any discussion? Any discussion? The question 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 is, 'Shall Senate Bill 848 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye the opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On this question there 152 'ayes', 3 'nay', none answering 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 853. Clerk read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 853, a Bill for an Act in relationship to the definition of gasohol. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Edgar, Representative Woodyard."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like leave to return 853 to Order of Second Reading for an Amendment."

"Does the Gentleman have leave? The Gentleman from Sangamon, Representative Kane."

"I would ask for a Roll Call on that question."

"Objections have been heard. Does the Gentleman wish to put a motion?"

"No, I said... No, I said, I would ask for a Roll Call on that."

"Alright, the Gentleman has asked for a Roll Call. Would Representative Woodyard wish to put a motion?"

"Right."

"The Gentleman moves that Senate Bill 853 be returned to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye' the oppose by voting 'no'. This question will require 89 votes. Have all voted who wished? Take the record. This question 139 'ayes', none...по 'nay', none anwsering 'present'. The Gentleman's motion prevails. Representative Cullerton for what purpose do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Mr. Speaker, I think it is appropriate at this time that I inquire of the Chair, now that we are covering 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 a Bill that is on Second Reading. What...just so we all know, all the Members of the House on both sides of the aisle. If someone has filed an Amendment, right now for example, to this Bill and the Amendment has not yet been printed and distributed. Is it within the discretion of the Chair to either hold it on Second Reading until it is distributed or is it within the discretion of the Chair to rule that Amendment out of order and then move to the Order of Third Reading? Just so we know for today, what the rules are."

"Okay. It's the Chairs opinion that pursuant to Rule 34 (c), Amendments which have not been printed or distributed are not in order. And if the Sponsor wishes to leave the Bill on Second Reading, that would be his choice of if he or she wishes to move it to Third, it would be also their choice. It's been the opinion of the Chair that the Sponsor in fact does control the destiny of a Bill in that regard. Representative Cullerton." Cullerton" "Then there would be no need for the Sponsor to move to table an Amendment that had been filed but not distributed. Is that correct?"

"That is my opinion, Representative."

"The only reason why I ask this is because yesterday, Representative Currie as you know, had a Bill, she wish to move it to Third, there had been an Amendment by Representative Vinson that had been filed but not distributed and the Chair with the same parliamentarian to your left that was up there yesterday ruled apparently or gave the advise to the Chair that the only way to proceed was to have that tabled. I just want to know for today, what the rules are. And I will be... Mr. Speaker, I will make sure that when you are not in the Chair, when we have a new temporary Speaker that I will renew my inquiry just 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 so we know what the rules will be when we have a new temporar Speaker."

"The Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I first remind the Gentleman from Cook who spoke last, that stare decisis has never been a guiding light of the Legislature, particularly when his Party had the Chair. But even assuming that stare decisis were an appropriate point of reckoning in this process, I would remind him that nothing occured yesterday that in anyway violated the rule or violated the rule of stare decisis. What happened yesterday in the case of Mrs. Currie's Amendment, she moved to table the Amendment. She chose to do that, then subsequently after moving to table the Amendment she exercised the courtesy toward me and withdrew her motion to table the Amendment. Subsequently I withdrew my Amendment, later in the evening the situation was exactly a Rule 34 (b) situation, the Amendment had not been printed. The Sponsor of the legislation chose not to make the premature motion which Representative Currie made earlier in the afternoon to table the Amendment. Chose instead to do...to chose an earlier more timely remedy of just moving the Bill on, perfectly locical, rational an lawful thing to do in this Chamber. And I would urge the Gentleman not to try to plung the Chamber into partisanship again this afternoon. I think that we can get on with the business of this House, deal with such important issues as transportation, the budget, people in need. And I would just urge him not to be partisan today, John."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I would just like to correct the record. Mr. Vinson has 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 reported the fact inaccurately. I asked that Senate Bill 1006 be moved to Third Reading, the Chair would not permit that Bill to be moved to Third Reading without some dealing with an Amendment filed but neither printed or distributed. I was not permitted the prerogative of moving that Bill to Third Reading without either dealing with the Amendment by a vote after printing and distribution or by a motion to table. That was exactly contrary to the way this Chair ruled last night. I don't think the issue is a partisan one, in fact, the Amendment that I filed to House bill 1902 was the only non partisan map that this Legislature would ever of had an opportunity to look at. This was a map that was proposed...an Amendment that I was proposing to that Bill that was drafted, not by the Republican Party, not by the Democratic Party but by a group of citizens who were concerned with the representation of their people in the following Sessions of this General Assembly and that in the Federal Congress. Our only opportunity to take the issue of reapportionment out of the partisan considerations was my Amendment #4 to House Bill 1902. And it was your inapporpiate ruling, Mr. Speaker, that prevented this Body from its opportunity to deal with this critical issue of the 82nd General Assembly in a truly nonpartisan nature. Representative Vinson talked about stare decisis, if we do nothing...."

"Rep...one moment please. Representative Johnson for what purpose do you rise?"

"Well, this is an interesting and fairly typical diatribe on whatever happened yesterday, but it is totally out of order. We're on House Bill 853 and Representative Currie as interesting as she always is, is out of order."

"The Gentleman's point is well taken. Representative Robbins, do you have a point that you want 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day to make, Sir?"

June 19, 1981 "I think that we're talking about two entirely different questions. This Amendment has been on the desk of all of us for over two days, it is not one that has just been recently filed. And I think we're talking about two entirely different questions, SO I move the previous question, so we can discuss the Bill."

"Alright, there's no previous question. Representative Currie, let me see if you can wrap it up."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The point that I was making, is the point that this House has to operate on fair procedures that are consistant from one day to the next. Representative Cullerton asked whether your ruling today would be like your ruling of last night, or instead like your ruling of yesterday afternoon. I think that it is only fair for you to make a ruling for the Session on the question of how we deal with Amendments that are filed but not printed or distributed on a Bill that is on Second Reading. I don't think it is adequate to answer the question with respect to today and I don't think it is fair for Representative Vinson to suggest that the procedure should be changable from one day to the next or that the issue is one of partisanship merely. It's an issue of the proper decorum and order of this House, if we cannot operate on fair procedures, consistant procedures, then we have no business telling our people back home we are giving them fair and democratic representation in this Assembly. And I would ask you, I would ask you, please to give us a ruling that is consistant ruling throughout the Session as to how you intend to deal with the situation of Amendments filed but neither printed or distributed. Will Sponsors of Bills, if they happen to be me, be forced to table those Amendments or will Sponsors of Bills, if they happen to be 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 Representative Ryan, be permitted to move them to Third without that interviening step?"

"We'll take this up with the Speaker and the Parliamentarian, Representative. Now, are Amendments filed to Senate Bill 853?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Woodyard. Amends Senate Bill 853 on page 2, deleting lines 26 and so forth."

"Alright, Representative, one moment. Representative Madigan for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"

"Mr. Speaker, I rise on the parliamentary inquiry of Representative Cullerton and I also rise on a point of personal privilege. Mr. Speaker, I address myself to, Speaker Ryan on this question eariler in the Session. And I suggested to him that the actions of this House, not only reflects upon the House as a Body but they also reflect upon each Member of this House individually. Because of your conduct of the Chair last night, Mr. Speaker, where you arbitnarily refuse to recognize Members seeking to address Amendments and Bills. Where you arbitnarily refused requests and demands from sufficient number of Members for record votes so that the public would know how people voted on particular Amendments and Bills. Because of your actions, Sir, in the Chair last night, local television this very noon is reporting that in the Illinois Legislature there is such pandemonium and confusion that television cameras are being physically removed from the Chamber and the newspaper reporters are being physically removed from the Chambers so that Members can be insulated and protected from the news media. This action and the reporting of this action, just as that insane demonstration by former Representative Griesheimer, makes us all look like a pack of idiots and makes every individual Member look like an idiot when they return home to their district. 15  67th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 19, 1981 We are elected to this Body to serve as public officials. We are expected to conduct ourselves in a proper and civil fashion in that capacity, but on a personal level as individuals we must return home to our communities, we must face our friends and neighbors and we must tell our friends and neighbors whether we are acting in a civil fashion in our official capacity or whether we are acting like a pack of idiots that they see portrayed on the television screens. This is what has....this is where this Body has degenerated during this Session. It has degenerated to this condition because the Leadership of this House, in the Speaker's Office is afraid, to have full faith and confidence in the full Membership. They are afraid of record votes, they're afraid of recording how people vote, they're afraid of allowing people to speak to Amendments. And they only allow people to talk such as today when their item of concern has been moved to a safe place on the Calendar. So, let me say to you, Mr. Speaker and let me say to those who have supported you, supported you in your acts of tyranny. In this process there's always a day of reckoning, you've learned that earlier in the Session. You abused me and you abused the Democratic Members early in this Session and then your day of reckoning came. And I single handedly engineered that day of reckoning and there was some long faces standing on that side of the aisle and there was some people on the microphone complaining that their long hours of work had been kicked out the window because I was dissatisfied with the treatment given to me earlier in the Session. I have certain legislative abilities and capabilities, I've served here for eleven years. I know this process, I know when I can win. I know when I can lose and I'm saying to you and I'm saying to you, Mr. Telcser and I'm saying to you, Mr. Ryan, listening 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 in your comfortable office and to you Mr. Thompson, listening in your comfortable office. I know this system and there will be a day of reckoning for every person in a power position who decides to abuse their position of power and to trample over the rights of any Member of this House. So, you can sit here comfortably today but just remember, your time is coming. Just wait and wait and it will arrive and you will regret what you've done because we are all here as individuals and as human beings. And as a human being we have rights, we have a right to address a Bill, we have a right to a record vote and by God, when you fail to look upon others as human beings, you're making a mistake and you will regret it."

"The Gentleman from Champaign, Representative Johnson."

"I hope...I hope the other side of the aisle will give this side of the aisle the same courtesy that we did to the Minority Leader in his accusations. You know, I remember three years ago or five years ago at the end of a Legislative term. When we lived with the entire term as we did for the whole four years in any other time when Representative Redmond, the Speaker Redmond was in the Chair. To have our Amendments voted down by voice vote, to have Amendments on the other side of the aisle adopted by voice vote with almost no opportunity despite our efforts requesting a Roll Call vote...ever in those four years to see the Assistant Speakers, the Assistant Leadership abuse our rights on this side. I would like to know from anybody what kind of rules Representative Telcser violated last night or Representative Ryan or anyone else have violated during this term. I've heard a lot of accusations but when it comes down to the rules and when it comes down to the procedures of the House, we followed it. Representative 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 Madigan talks about what we've done on this side of the aisle, to lead this Chamber into chaos or disrepute on the part of the public. Well, I would remind the distinguish Minority Leader and I'm really not talking to all that side of the aisle, I'm talking to the people who make those accusations. That whatever Representative...people have thought or didn't think about Representative Griesheimer when he was here. That was a by partisan thing, you may or may not have thought it was a an appropriate thing to do but there was people on both sides of the aisle who thought in light of the spirit of the time that it was something appropriate. But it certainly wasn't something that was partisan and I would remind the distinguished Minority Leader that last night, despite the efforts of the Chair to have order in this Chamber that it wasn't people on this side of the aisle who physically charged the Chair. Broke through the, whatever limitations there were on the side there and actually physically confronted the Speaker of this House. It wasn't people on this side of the aisle that did that. It wasn't people on this side of the aisle who created such a situation of chaos down at the well in the Chair that despite the efforts of Representative Telcser and others to have some decorum in this House that it broke down in chaos. We didn't contribute to that. And I think that since we're all here, as 177 adults, who we're all elected by our own constituencies, that when this Session has been marred by the Minority Leaders continual references to the elected Speaker of this House as, George and his little clique and in their comfortable offices and continually personal aspersion on people who have been elected by their own constituents and by this side of the aisle and for that matter by the whole Chamber as duly elected state officials, that's what degrades this Chamber. 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 19, 1981 67th Legislative Day And I think the time is now and I suppose on both sides of the aisle, to quit the party bickering. To put aside the accusations and to dedicate the rest of these ten days to addressing the problems of the State of Illinois that we should have addressed ...I suppose in many senses on an overall sense better over during this term. And I think that statements by the Minority Leader aren't going to solve the problems of transportation, they aren't going to add to our ability as an elected Legislative Body to solve our own problems of reapportionment rather than turn it over to eight people in a back room. And they aren't going to solve the other problems of the budget and so forth. What's going to solve the problems of this state is responsible, deliberitive approaches that I think have marked the conduct of the Chair and the Leadership of this House during the five months despite efforts to the contrary. And I hope we can put aside these efforts, put aside the accusations and put aside the little diatribes like we just heard and get down to the business of the people of the State of Illinois. Thank you."

"Representative Kane, for what purpose do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. There has been some talk about what when on last night and what when on three years ago and what has happened before in this House chamber. And there is a statement by the previous speaker, which said that no rules have been broken. Well I've been in and around these chambers for about sixteen years, Mr. Speaker, before you were here. And there have been an awful....there have been a number of occasions in which this House has gone up for grabs. And the times when this House has gone up for grabs, in those sixteen years, has been the times when the person in the 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 Chair, weilding the gavel has arbitrarily abrogated the fundamental rights of a Democratic Representative Body, that is, the right to a vote and a right to have that voted counted. That has happened on a number of occasions. First time that I can remember was on a 'stop and frisk' Bill and its happened before, its happened about three times. Four times in the sixteen years that I have been around. And the previous speaker says, that its those who insisted on the right to have a vote taken and a vote counted that caused the chaos. That isn't what caused the chaos, what causes the chaos is the person who has the gavel that isn't willing to trust the elected Representatives of the people of this state to cast an intelligent vote and either to win or to lose and to take that win or to take that loss. Ladies and Gentlemen, in a Democratic process and a Democratic society the only thing that we have to protect ourselves, is the process. And it's the Leadership that has to protect the process and if the Leadership refuses to honor the process then we as individual Members don't have any other choice but to insist that our constitutional rights, our rights under the rules and our right to represent the people of our districts are enforced and enhanced. The question last night, in the furor, last night was not over the merits of any Amendment the furor last night was over the question of whether or not a Roll Call was going to be taken. Whether votes were going to be counted and whether the people of this state were going to have their Representatives be able to vote in some kind of orderly and seemly fashion. And once we allow that process to be besmirched and we gavel things through, we might as well pack it up because at that point we don't have a Democratic process. We might as well not have any elected officials, we might as well turn it 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 over to who ever has the gavel and say, take it, be a dictator for the next four years or the next two years or whatever. I would remind the Gentlemen on the other side of the aisle and the Ladies on the other side of the aisle, that it's only you who can straigten out your own Leadership. And I would remind you that when there have been abuses when we were in power and there was Democratic Leaders, it was Members on the Democratic side of the aisle who stormed the podium, walked up there quietly and remonstrated with their Leadership, but the only time that it's going to happen is when you take it upon yourselves to straighten out your Leadership because you're in the Majority, we're in the Minority and you have to take that point of Leadership because we don't have the votes to do it."

"Representative Chapman, the Lady from Cook. The Lady from Champaign, Representative Satterthwaite."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, the previous speaker from the other side of the aisle obviously has some vested interest in the maps as they have been drawn. He has very visibly gone throughout the state indicating his involvement in this issue. And so, I guess it is somewhat understandable that although he likes to promote himself in our district as an independant person, not tied to Party Leadership, he in fact now distorts the truth about what happened last night in defense of his Party Leadership, presumably as far as I can tell, because he has such a vested interest in the map drawing process. If that process of doing a map by Committee is So sacred that no other Member of the House can have any input to the process then I think he should defend his Lead ership. But I for one feel that as an elected Representative, I should have a right to submit Amendments to the Bill, to have them 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 voted up or down on the merits of those Amendments or on a political bases or by any other means. But as Representative Kane has clearly pointed out, last nights action on this House floor was a total disregard for our rules, a total disregard for any Members right to have any input to the map making process unless you were part of that little clique who happened to get appointed in the beginning to that special Committee. I very much resent the fact that a Member from my district would choose to distort the record to try to make his Party Leadership look good. And I also resent the fact that that Leadership would deny me the privilege of providing an Amendment on the House floor for consideration of the Body. And I would like the record to show that and I hope that the publicity that the current map gets will clearly indicate that those who attended some of the meetings were not necessarily responsive to what was said at the hearings on what the people of the various districts throughout the state wanted. And if you look at the map for the state in general and for its various parts, I think that you will find that attendance at hearings is far different than being responsive to the testimony that was given there. Thank you."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative O'Brien."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Mr. Speaker, I do also rise to express my dismay and my shame at the actions we took last night in this chambers. And, Mr. Speaker, I understand as well as every other Member of this chamber, the importance of 1902 and 1903 and the reapportionment issue or gerrymandering issue. That issue alone will probably, if one Party wins out over the other, gain control of the State of Illinois for at least the next 22  67th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 19, 1981 decade. But, Mr. Speaker, what happened last night was extremely unfair and extremely undemocratic and not in character with you or your conduct as a Legislator for the last twelve years in this Illinois General Assembly. Mr. Speaker, in brief, what happened last night on the Currie Amendment, was that you abused the Clerk's Office by not printing the Amendments in a timely fashion. In addition to that, you turned off the microphones of the Members of the Minority on this side of the aisle. On that same Amendment you also through out the T.V. Cameras from this chambers. In addition to that, there was no record or recorded vote on those most important Amendments and that Bill was fast gaveled to a Third Reading. In addition that, I have never seen armed guards telling Representatives, whether they be Republican or Democrat, on this House floor what they can do and where they can go. Mr. Speaker, you don't take over the State of Illinois for the Republican Party, for the next ten years through the podium, you do it through a platform and issues that you take back to your district, issues that relate to the people. Mr. Speaker, you did one thing last night and the Republican Party did the Democratic Party a favor, you united the Democratic Party more than it has ever been united in the last five months of this Session. I hope, Mr. Speaker, that the rest of the Session will allow us Minority Members in the House to be heard. Thank you."

"The Lady from Sangamon, Representative Oblinger."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the General Assembly. You've all been commenting on your behavior last night, we condemn a country because it didn't stop and think what it should do before it acted. And I think this is something we better learn here, I was never so ashamed of my cohorts 23  67th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 19, 1981 as I was last night. Why didn't you stop and think before you acted, you could have done the same thing in much more Ladylike and Gentleman like order. And now if you truly mean what you just got through saying, all of you, that you're interested in your constituents, I would suggest that we stop all this rhetoric and get on with the work of the House."

"The Lady from St. Clair, Representative Younge."

"Right, Mr. Speaker, I just want to comment on a matter of personal priviledge in reference to Amendment #6 of House Bill 1903. This Amendment sought to that I didn't get an opportunity to present or to speak on sought to correct a gerrymanding situation involving the separation of the City of East St. Louis into two legislative districts. That was bad enough and that hurt me that I was not able to argue and have consideration on the correcting of this notorious gerrymanding situation. But after I thought about it, what hurt me deeper and more deeply was to see democracy turn into chaos last night. It might not be important to you, Mr. Speaker, but it is important to me that I serve in a democracy of government of the people, by the people, for the people. It is important to me that I have chosen to try to maintain orderly government, that I have chosen to try to be a part of an organized society. And for me to have to sit here and to stand here and witness the total breakdown of orderly process and democratic government was of great grieve to me. It is important to me that I represent 188,000 people who have a right to have their position and point of view represented here. I remember and I recall many of the things that I had read as I was growing up. One of the things that I read about tyranny is that power corrupts an 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 absolute...power corrupts absolutely and what I witnessed here last night was absolute corruption of power. Democracy is important to those of us who spend OUT days and our evenings and our months here and by your conduct you show that you have no love for the form of government under which we serve. And I feel called upon to say that when you set that type of example you open the flood gate for people who although they have no jobs and although they have no housing, you open the flood gate for people to come to the conclusion that they will riot before they will have no representation. And I feel that I have to stand up here and say that people expect you to maintain the rules and regulations of an orderly society and to protect and love democracy. And when you act as you acted last night you show you have a total disregard for each of us and the things we represent."

"Alright, the Gentleman from Edgar, Representative Woodyard in connection with a motion to Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 853." Woodyard: But "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When I became Sponsor of this Bill, I was told that it was relative non controversial Bill and we certainly had an awful lot of discussion. I do appreciate the debate on my Bill. I would move to table Amendment #1 and then adopt Amendment #2."

Senate to "The Gentleman moves to table Amendment #1 Gentleman from Sangamon, Bill 853. The Representative Kane."

"I would ask for a Roll Call on that motion."

"The Gentleman moves to table Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 853. All in favor signify by voting 'aye' the opposed by voting 'no'. Minority goes on the question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Huskey."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, I....as long as Amendment #1 was my 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 Amendment I would like to ask a question? What does Amendment...why is the purpose of tabling Amendment #1?"

"Amendment #1 was technically incorrect, we were amending the wrong lines in the Bill and Amendment #2 does technically corrects that plus do two other things."

"The same substances?"

"Oh, yes."

"Then I have no opposition."

"Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On this question 142 'ayes', none voting 'no', none answering 'present' and the Gentleman's motion prevails. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Woodyard. Amends Senate Bill..."

"The Gentleman from Edgar, Representative Woodyard."

"Amendment #2 does amend the correct lines in the Bill. It does two other things, we passed two gasohol Bills out of here yesterday. And these Bills carry a penalty clause for selling gasohol that is not legally gasohol. This puts the penalty provisions consistent with those two Bills. It also defines the alcohol content by chemical analyses or proof of the alcohol in gasohol. And I would move for its adoption."

"Any discussion? The Gentleman offers to move the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 853? The Gentleman from Sangamon, Representative Kane, requests a Roll Call. All in favor signify by..."

"Yes, I would."

"Yeah. The Gentleman offers to move the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 853. All in favor signify by voting 'aye' the oppose by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Take the record. This question, 153 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none answering 'present', the Gentleman's motion prevails. Amendment #2 is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, Kane. Amends Senate Bill 853 as amended."

"The Gentleman from Sangamon, Representative Kane."

"Mr. Speaker, I don't think that this Amendment has been printed and distributed yet and I would ask that this Bill be held on Second until that is done."

"Representative Woodyard, do you wish..."

"Move it to Third."

"Okay, now...the Gentleman's Amendment has not been printed, it's not in order. Are there further Amendments? Representative Cullerton, what purpose do you rise?"

"Would it be in order for a Member to ask that this be tabled...this Amendment be tabled or is it as we did yesterday or is it proper for the Sponsor to be allowed to deny Representative Kane's right to amend his Bill, which he just brought back to Second Reading? Which procedure are we going to follow today? A motion to table or just allowing the Sponsor to deny Representative Kane's right to amend his Bill which he brought back to Second today? Which seems the fairest to you?"

"Representative Matijevich, what purpose do you rise?"

"Well, Mr. Speaker, I would be very careful if you in the Chair just uphold what you did last night, establish a precedent that is in the future going to jeopardize all of the legislation in the House. You know, you let a lot of people speak here...you know, no body was allowed to speak last night but now that that maps on Third Reading you have 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 graciously allowed everbody to speak because now it doesn't do a damn bit of good. None of us vere allowed the opportunity to amend those maps and we know that you had the votes. I really don't know what you were afraid of. But now what I'm afraid of, Mr. Speaker, in your haste to try to justify what you wrongfully did last night, you are now going to make a ruling that could jeopardize procedures in the future. We have alway in the future kept a Bill on Second Reading as long as an Amendment has been filed, ΟΓ that Amendment be tabled and then you can go on rightfully and legally on to Third Reading. But, you know, I'll forgive you what you did but let's not jeopardize the future. You made a mistake, I'd rather that you admit your mistake. You did it for the purposes of politically of trying to get your map, getting it through one House and maybe that will do you some political good in the future. But, let's not jeopardize all the legislation, you know, all these Bills belong to all of us and you know, I heard all about the...so much of what somebody has said, about choas. Have you ever thought about the fact that sometimes choas does good. No body has ever thought about that, you know, in the Senate there's never any choas. The Senate...the Senate adjourned at 2:30, last night and I would rather belong to this House of Representatives where it is more democratic, I'd rather belong to this House where sometimes when the Majority Party does act chaotically, you can combat that with some choas and then get some things done. I don't see anything wrong with that. I regret the fact that sometimes it comes So close of being physical but sometimes in the end, that does some good for all of the people of the State of Illinois. I happened to, one time do something here on the floor of the House because of a lobbyist right in the middle of the most 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 important thing that this House ever did and that's to elect a Speaker of the House where lobbyist were trying to control people on the floor of this House. And I did something that was very....almost physical, I guess, but believe me out of that some good was done. Now that may have been choas and I...believe me what Representative Kane, did last night was in return for the choas that was happening to all of us. Now I think that happen to be good, I don't care how it is reported. That doesn't make any difference to me, but all I say, Mr. Speaker, forget about justifying what you did last night and let's worry about the future."

"Alright, Representative, let me simply answer you in this fashion. It is the sincere belief of the Chair that the ruling which the Chair made last night in reference to Amendment #4 to House Bill 1902, was a proper ruling. It's a ruling which I have made many many times on this podium in prior years. Some responsibility has to fall upon the Sponsors of Bills, whether or not they want to hold them or not hold them. It's apparent that if your point of view is a prevailing one, then all one has to do to tie up the process of this Assembly is to file an Amendment. And if it is not printed we have to constantly get into the situation of motions to table Amendments, substitute motions, verifications ad infinitum. I made that motion sincerely, I made that ruling sincerely and I sincerely make it again today. If an Amendment is offered and not printed and distributed, the Amendment is simply out of order pursuant to the rules of the House. Now, Amendment #3 in the mean time has been distributed, it's now in order, Representative Kane will offer that Amendment. But to say the Chair isn't courteous, that courtesy then has to fall upon the Sponsor whether or not 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 he or she wants to hold the Bill or not hold the Bill. Nevertheless, the Amendment has been distributed. Representative Madigan for what purpose do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, what you have just said....what you have just....Mr. Speaker, I would like you to listen to me at this time. Thank you. What you have just said, is that a provision of the rule which provides that the Amendment be on file, printed, distributed and you full well know that the Chair controls the printing of the Amendments and the Chair can call the printing shop and either expedite the printing of the Amendment or slow down the printing of the Amendment so that a conspiracy can be put together very easily which would deny a person a right to offer their Amendment. And you just stood on that podium and you justified the system which will allow that type of conduct. I did not say that you would stand there and justify a performance of that type of conduct, I said, that you stood there and justified a system that would allow for that kind of conduct. And I say to you, Mr. Telcser, that you should say that with shame and regret and I remind you of your political base and offspring, Sir. You come from a liberal section of the city and you have been elected by the people from that section of the city because you have offered yourself as a fair, liberal, open minded person, the type of person who would never stand on the podium of the House of Representatives of Illinois and offer a justification of even the temptation that something like that could be done. And I just say to you, Sir, please remember from whence you came, don't allow yourself to be completely corrupted by your role as a Leader of the Republican Party. Remember the people who sent you here in the first place."

"Representative, your reference to a conspiracy obviously comes from experience. Your own experience. I 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 recall as a Member of the Minority...events in the past which really have no relevance to todays discussion. I can simply say to you, the Chair, last night or any other time....was not aware of anything, was not involved in anything nor even had those thoughts about a conspiracy. I can, therefore, only conclude that your mind runs that way because perhaps in the past few years you have engineered those conspiracys. I would be delighted, Mr. Madigan, to have you come up anywhere in my district and I will debate you on any question that you choose. I'm not afraid of my constituents, I'm delighted to go back to them and discuss with them my Legislative record. Nevertheless, Mr. Madigan, I repeat myself. I sincerely believe that the Members of the Assembly ought to have the right to read an Amendment before it's voted up or down. I also believe....I also don't believe that if some Members wish to engage in other conspiracys or dilatory actions, that the business of the people of Illinois should be tied up in partisan rambling and handling simply because some Members wish to file Amendments which may or may not dilatorius but obviously without the ruling that I have made, we encourage dilatory action and we encourage the inability of this Assembly to function in the behalf of the people of Illinois. What's lacking in this country today, and in this state is the ability for leaders to lead. You and I have talked about that many times and that is simply what we are doing. We are attempting to protect Members. I sincerely believe my ruling is correct, I stand by it and I assure you...I assure you there has been no attempt on my part at any time to encourage some sort of printing procedure to be delayed. Now Amendment #3 has been distributed, the Gentleman from Sangamon, Representative Kane." 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Having never been a part of Leadership, I've never been involved in any conspiracy. But, I think that one of the questions that needs to be raised, is that the ruling....or the rule that is the foundation for the ruling that you made. Is a rule to protect the Membership from having to vote on an Amendment which they have not seen and I think that as a Leadership has to protect itself from dilatory Amendments. The Membership also has to be protected from Leadership that does not want certain Amendments printed, therefore, they can be arbitrarily ruled out of order. To the Amendment. Amendment #3 amends page 10, line 34 of Senate Bill 853, by changing 10% to 11% and I would urge the adoption of Amendment #3."

"The Gentleman from Edgar, Representative Woodyard on the Amendment."

"Mr. Speaker, would you take this Bill out of the record, please."

"Take this Bill out of the record. It's out of the record, it's on the Order of Second Reading. Senate Bill 840. The Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill..."

"860, I'm sorry."

"Senate Bill 860, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would ask leave of the House to return this to the Order of Second Reading for the Amendment that we did discuss, it's printed and distributed."

"Does the Gentleman have leave to take this Bill back to Second? Leave has been granted, Second Reading. 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 Are there any Amendments? Did you want a Roll Call, Mr. Kane? Representative Kane, want a Roll Call. The Gentleman moves to take Senate Bill 860 from the Order of Third Reading to the Order of Second. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye' the opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Take the record. This question they're 103 'ayes', 30 'nay', none answering 'present'. The Gentleman's motion prevails. Any Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Leverenz. Amends Senate Bill 860...."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"Table Amendment #1 it is incorrect."

"The Gentleman moves to table Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 860, the Gentleman from Kane asks for a Roll Call. All in favor signify by voting 'aye' the oppose by voting 'no'. Wait a second the machine has got to clear. Representative Leverenz, for what purpose do you rise?"

"Let me recorrect the word I used. I withdraw Amendment #1, it was not adopted."

"The Gentleman withdraws Amendment #1. Are the futher Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Leverenz. Amends Senate Bill 860...."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The Amendment would reverse the reference to using a radar detection devices within five hundred feet of the posting on a Senior Citizens Center. It actually makes it now consistent with the practice that was indicated earlier. I would ask for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House... Senate Bill 860. 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day

June 19, 1981 "All in favor 'aye'. Is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Effingham, Representative Brummer."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"He indicated it would make it consistent with what was indicated earlier. I don't recall what was indicated earlier, would you expalin the Amendment."

"Why certainly. Let me help you recall, on line 20 of the Bill it said, nothing in this Chapter shall prohibit the use of electronic speed detecting devises within five hundred feet of signs within a Senior Citizen Home zone. It would now provide that it would say, that you cannot do that." Brummer:

"And how is that a change?" "It makes it comform with the general practices, Mr. Getty, pointed out to me. In part 604 the Illinois Vehicle Code. It prohibits the use of the radar detection devise to be used as evidence in court.

"In other words, they could use...."

"A good lawyers Amendment for you."

"They could use radar but they could no not use the evidence of the radar in court?"

"You can't do either."

"They could neither use the radar nor use it as evidence in court?"

"That's correct."

"Thank you."

"Further discussion? The Gentleman offers and moves the adoption of Amendment #32 to Senate Bill 860. All in favor signify by saying 'ayes'....the Gentleman wishes a Roll Call. All in favor signify by voting 'aye' the oppose by voting 'no". Have all voted who wish? Take the record. This question there are 89 'ayes', 6 voting nay, 1 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 answering 'present' and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Peters for what purpose do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, for the purpose of a motion."

"State your motion, Sir."

"Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend Rule 35 (g) and any other appropriate rules to extend the deadline for consideration of Senate Bills on Third Reading and all other matters to which the deadline rules apply to midnight, June 26, 1981."

"Is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Sangamon, Representative Kane."

"Mr. Speaker, I think the rules require that if we're going to suspend a rule that those rules be enumerated specifically and I would ask the Gentleman to enumerate the rules specifically that he is asking to suspend."

"There is only one rule, Representative, it's Rule 35 (g). Representative Kane for what purpose do you rise?"

"I think then he should amend his motion to apply only to 35 (g)."

"The Gentleman moves to suspend provisions of 35 (g), it will take 89 votes. All in favor signify by voting....the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Madigan."

"Mr. Speaker, it might be wise if this could just be held for five or ten minutes and let some discussion ensue on this side of the aisle."

"Will the Gentleman withdraw the motion? Representative Peters."

"I'm sorry, I did not hear..."

"The Minority Leader asked you to hold the 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 motion for about five minutes. He wants to...."

"Certainly."

"Okay. House Bill 903, will the Clerk please read the Amendment...read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 903, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning public utilities. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Levin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill Sponsored in the Senate by Senator Coffey and passed the House in a 55 to nothing vote. It increases the fines for damage, removal, defacement of railroad signs, signals, gates or other protective devices located at or near any public grade crossing from ten dollars to hundred dollars at one end of the spectrum to fifty dollars two hundred dollars. Offenders would also be in a position where they might be required to make restitution for the cost of replacemnt of such railroad road sign or other property. I ask for your support of this Bill." to

"Is there any discussion? Any opposition? The Gentleman from McLean, Representative Ropp."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, would the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates that he will."

"Let's say in the past year, how many people have ever been caught and penalized for defacing a railroad sign?"

"I really don't have that information, Representative. This was a Bill that was requested by the Illinois Commerce Commission and I understand that it came as a result of conversations and consultations with the various railroads. They feel that this would be helpful, that defacement is a serious problem. Right now the penalties are very limited and so what this Bill does is to increase the penalties and also, more importantly provides that the person that is perpetrating this defacement can be ordered to provide 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 19, 1981 67th Legislative Day compensation in order to put back the sign or the equipment back in the form that it was in."

"Well I think it is very laudable but I'd doubt if we probably had one person that's every been caught defacing a railroad sign but if increasing the penality will help us to catch those or to deter people why maybe we ought to support this Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Conti."

"I wonder if the Speaker will yield?"

"He indicates that he will."

"Representative Levin, this isn't the Bill where they put the Amendment on where they can't sell their railroad property? Is there an Amendment on this Bill?"

"Representative, there is no Amendment on this Bill. There is a....another Bill that was reported out of our Committee...."

"Alright, you answered by question. I can't see anything wrong with this Bill, the first time this Session I'm agreeing with Levin's good Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Levin to close."

"Just ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 903 pass?' All those in favor will signify by voting 'aye", opposed by voting 'no'. The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Piel to explain his vote. No. Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On this question 154 ayes', 3 voting 'no', none anwsering present' and this Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 930. Is Representative McAuliffe on the floor? Representative McAuliffe. Senate Bill 955. Is Representative Hoffman on the floor? Nope. Senate Bill 1047, will the Clerk please read the Bill." 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981

"Senate Bill 1047, a Bill for an Act to amend the Vital Records Act. Third Reading of the bill."

"The Gentleman from Winnebago, Representative Kelley." Kelley, Jim: "Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, this is a Bill I'm handling for the Department of Public Health. Amends the Vitals Record Act, allows an associate physican, chief medical officer of a hospital or pathologist to certify the cause of death. This Bill passed the Senate 57 to nothing. I would urge your 'yes' vote."

"Is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Kane...the Gentleman from Sangamon, Representative Kane."

"Would the Gentleman yield to a question?"

"He indicates that he will."

"Would you indicate to us why this Bill is needed, why this change in the statute is required? Why do we need this change in the statute?" Kelley, J: "I haven't the foggist idea, Representative Kane. This is a Bill from the Illinois Department of Public Health and they asked me to handle it."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As long as we don't have the foggist idea what this Bill does or why it's being done, I think we ought to vote 'no' and I would urge a 'no' vote."

"Is there further discussion? The Gentleman from Rock Island, Representative Darrow."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have an inquiry for the Clerk. Earlier when this Bill was discussed, Representative Lechowicz, indicated he may have an Amendment for this Bill. Has an Amendment been filed? The Sponsor had agreed..."

"None have been filed, Representative."

"Thank you." 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981

"Is there further discussion? The Gentleman from Winnebago, Representative Kelley to close." Kelley, J.: "I would only urge a 'yes' vote for the Illinois Department of Public Health."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1047 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye' the opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Take the record. This question 130 'ayes', 20 voting 'no', 2 answering 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1119, will the Clerk please read it."

"Senate Bill 1119, a Bill for an Act relating to alcoholic liquors. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Sandquist. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1132. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1132, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Bond, Representative Watson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1132 amends the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act and it deletes the requirement that the Department of Public Health have a new drug...when a new drug is used for investigational use in Illinois, currently we have to have a report filed. This would just delete that requirement. The Department of Public Health use to have the authority to approve new drugs in Illinois and this function has been taken over totally by the Federal Food and Drug Administration. The Department of Public Health feels that it's not necessary to have this requirement. Now, they support the Bill, it passed the Senate 57 to nothing and of course came out of Committee, 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 19, 1981 67th Legislative Day 13 to nothing. I would appreciate a 'yes' vote."

"Is there any discussion? None? The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1132 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye' the oppose by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On this question there are 154 voting 'aye', 1 voting 'no', 1 answering 'present'. This having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1133. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1133, a Bill for an Act to amend the Medical Practice Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Barnes."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a Bill that passed out of the Senate, 57 to nothing and passed out of the Health and Family Services, 15 to nothing. And it requires that applicants for license as an Osteopath or Chiropractor must graduate from school approved by a disignated organization. This is approved by the State Medical Society and also the Chiropratic Society. I would ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"The Gentleman from Rock Island, Representative Darrow."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative Polk and I have discussed this at some length and I would ask at this time if we could take this off Short Debate."

"Is the Gentleman joined by ten Members. He is, it's now on regulater debate. Is there further discussion? No further discussion. I don't know. The Gentleman from Rock Island, Representative Darrow."

"Thank you, Mr. Sponsor.... Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates that she will."

"How would it be possible to monitor this legislation?" 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981

"In what matter, Representative do you want it monitored."

"In terms of the foreign colleges having the equivalency to the United States standards."

"Well, if the schools in another country, its standards must be equivalent to those set forth for United States schools. You know, it is very interesting, the other night, Representative Darrow. Some Gentleman called me at my apartment and he said that his son, who was an Illinois resident was practing chiropraty in Detroit and he said, I don't think he's happy with your Bill. And I said, well, may I ask you a question, Sir? Was your son every denied the right to go to chiroprator school in Lombard and he said, no. And I said, then I really don't see what the complaint is about."

"Well, according to our analyses...most legislation such as this is phrased in substantially equilavent that the foreign school would be substantially equilavent, have you given any consideration to this?"

"No."

"Have you....well, let me ask this. Why is Mr. Polk, Representative Polk been removed as a Sponsor of this legislation?"

"You would have to ask Representative Polk that and I don't think he's on the floor. He asked me to take the Bill."

"TO the Bill, ΜΙ. Speaker. In Illinois there are a number of Chiropractic Organizations, one centers around the Lombard area and the School of Chiropractic in that area. The other organization stems from Palmer School of Chiropratic in my area. I'm informed by a number of Chiroprators in my area that this legislation is defective and is for this reason that the other medical professions 41  67th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 19, 1981 have opt out of it leaving only the School of Chiropratic. It would appear what we are doing is creating a situation where these schools are perpetuating themselves and saying, if you're not a resident or a graduate of these schools, you cannot become a chiropractor. Based on this and based on the wishes of my constituents back home, I will be voting no. Thank you."

"Is there further discussion? The Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert."

"Ladies and Gentleman of the House, Mr. Speaker. I too, have had quite a bit of contact with people back in my district. They say that this Bill is plainly discriminatory, they say it does create preferred status for people of one group in one area and one school and on very good source, I think this is a bad Bill and on the expert advise of those people and I would urge a 'no' vote in this Assembly on this Bill."

"The Gentleman from Peoria, Representative Schraeder."

"I wonder if the Sponsor would yield for a question?"

"She indicates that she will."

"Why is the one Chiropractic Society single out on this Bill in changing the regulations? Are somebody been charged incorrectly with malpractice or something such as that?"

"No, Representative. There are, I think approximately six Chiropractor schools in Illinois and..... there's is one, Senator Davidson is the Chiropractor and this is his Bill. And he said that there...."

"I don't know what school, he may be from the other school. Answer my....please."

"That's what I'm trying to do, but you know what I'm trying to do, I'm trying to get the right answer for you, 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day Sir."

"Thank you."

"You're welcome. Senator informs me schools that are June 19, 1981 There is one school in Illinois, the and there are five different other recognized in Illinois. The one school that seems to be complaining is a school that is located in Iowa and it is also recognized."

"Thank you."

"So, I don't consider it discriminatory."

"The Gentleman from Whiteside, Representative Schuneman."

"A question of the Sponsor, Mr. Speaker?"

"She indicates she will yield."

"Representative, this Bill deals with licensing and I don't know that much about the licensing of Chiropractors. Is there licensing procedure similar to that of a medical doctor in that they are required to take an examination?"

"Yes, Representative."

"Would this not...would this Bill then not deny some people who might want to take that examination, from being able to even take an exam to see whether or not they are qualified?"

"They are presently denied now if the school is not recognized by the State of Illinois."

"So, how...in what way does this Bill effect those people then. Does it extend in some way the denial of the right of people to have an exam or the privilege?"

"Just a protection for the people that do go to these schools in the State of Illinois, that when he graduates that he will be recognized as a fully qualified doctor to practice in Illinois."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, to the Bill. It seems to me that we're being asked here to decide upon an argument between 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 two branches of the Chiropratic practice and frankly, I don't feel qualified to vote on that issue not knowing more than I do about the subject. Under those circumstances, I think I'm going to have to support....oppose the Bill in spite of the good sponsorship both here in the House and in the Senate."

"Mr. Speaker, I would like to respond. I don't always feel qualified to vote on insurance issues but I recognize that Representative Schuneman is an authority. As I think that the Members of this House should also recognize that Senator Davidson is an authority."

"Further Discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Stearney."

"Would the Lady yield?"

"She indicates that she will."

"Representative, correct me if I'm wrong but, isn't the same procedure followed with the licensing of medical doctors. As I understand it, they have to take an exam within the State of Illinois to be licensed by the State Medical Board, am I right?"

"That's right, Representative."

"And in order for them to take that exam to become license physicans to practice in the State of Illinois they have to be graduates of a credited medical schools within the United States or of some European University. Am I not right?"

"That is right."

"So, this here type of legislation is analogous to what we do in the procedure we follow to license medical doctors. Is it not?"

"That's right."

"Well then, I guess that would answer, Mr. Schuneman's question and I think what we're doing in this...with this 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 legislation is the fit and proper thing to do and I would urge an 'aye' vote."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative

Leverenz.n Leverenz: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you all. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates that she will."

"Representative, how does this change the existing law?"

"It just defines it."

"It is a merely Bill?"

"This Bill was introduced at the request of the Examining Committee."

"And....who then would okay the schools that would be....who then would okay the schools that would be approved?"

"The National Committee on Chiropractor Education in the State of Illinois."

"who approves the schools now?"

"The National Acrediting Committee and the State of Illinois." Leverenz: enz: "This would eliminate then the State of Illinois and just leave it up to the National Committee?"

"No, they would still both do it, Representative Leverenz." Leverenz:

"They both still would. Would there be anyone that has gone through the educational process that would be approved or possibly be denied approval or the ability to get a license? In other words, they have expended their money for the education and would be denied getting the ability to get the license."

"No different than it is right now, Representative." "And it was introduced at the request of the Examining 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day Board?"

"Yes, Sir." June 19, 1981

"Mr. Speaker, to the Bill. I think the best way to define it, since a board that controls it brought it forward would be that it would simply maintain standards the way they should be and I solicit your 'aye' vote."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Ronan."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think we've heard enough debate on this Bill. This is a fine piece of legislation, what we're doing is protecting the consumer and making sure that chiropractors are qualified to do a good job for the people. I move the previous question on this fine Bill."

"The Gentleman has moved the previous question. All in favor signify by saying 'aye', opposed 'no'. Representative Ewell for what purpose do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, the rules specifically say that you can not speak and then move the previous question. The Gentleman's motion for the previous question is out of order."

"Okay, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Vitek."

"Mr. Speaker, in that sense, I move the previous question."

"The Gentleman has moved the previous question. All in favor signify by saying 'aye', opposed 'no'. The previous question has been moved. Representative Barnes to close."

"Well, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I think that all the questions have been answered and I would merely ask for an 'aye' vote on this fine piece of legislation."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1133 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye' the opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Take the record. 46  67th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 19, 1981 On this question 116 'ayes', 23 voting 'nay', 5 answering 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. Representative Collins for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"

"Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of an introduction. We have a distinguish visitor today with us, I would like to introduce the Counselor General of Haiti, Mr. John Claude Board."

"Representative Lechowicz for what purpose do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For the purpose of a introduction, we have the Chairman of the Democratic Chairman Association, State of Illinois, Todd Renfrow. Todd."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Peters for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"

"For the purposes of a motion, Mr. Speaker."

"State your motion."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I would like to renew my motion. I move to suspend the provisions of Rule 35 (g), to change the final date on which Senate Bills may be called for vote on the Order of Third Reading from June 22, 1981 to June 26, 1981."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Madigan."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of this motion but I would like to reiterate some of my comments this week which would be that...."

"Let the Gentleman speak."

"I think they're getting tired of hearing me."

"No, I think the Minority Leader...I think the Minority Leader is entitled to certain extra courtesies...." 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day

June 19, 1981 "I would hope, Mr. Speaker, that with this extention of the deadline that we could work a reasonable number of hours, each day. I have said before that I don't think it's in the well being of our health that we work from early in the morning until late at night. And I realize that the Speaker does have certain matters that he wishes to move through under the cover of darkness to spite that concern, if we could work some reasonable hours."

"Thank you very much, Sir. The Lady from Cook, Representative Pullen."

"Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the Minority Leaders concern for all of our health. I find it rather ironic though that since this particular Gentleman led an hour and a half of meaningless, worthless, absolutely useless discussion today in the middle of business on Representative Woodyard's Bill that that discussion had no pertinence to whatsoever. think it's very ironic that he should ask concerned about the hours that we put in here. I you to be Thank you."

"The Gentleman has moved to suspend the provisions of Rule 35 (g), to change the final date in which Senate Bills may be called for a vote on the Order of Third Reading from June 22, 1981 to June 26, 1981. All in favor signify by voting 'aye the oppose by voting 'no'. 89 votes. Have all voted who wish? Take the record. This question 129 'ayes', voting 'nay', none answering 'present' and the Gentleman's motion prevails. Gentleman from Cook, Representative Peters."

4 Peters: "Mr. Speaker, for the purposes of a motion."

"State your motion.

"I move that the House now stand adjourned until June 22, The Monday, at the hour of 12:00 noon and that the Clerk be given ten minutes time to fulfill whatever obligations he has." 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day

"Representative Polk, are you seeking recognition? No. Representative Polk." June 19, 1981

"Yes, I don't believe I've ever done this in nine years I've been here. I was inadvertently off the floor when this last Bill, 1133 was voted and somebody apparently accidentally hit my button, I was recorded 'aye'. I'm just requesting that I can be recorded 'no', I don't think I have ever asked this before..."

"Are there objections? Representative Schneider for what purpose do you rise?"

"I'll trade him one, Mr. Speaker. I was off the floor and I want to vote for it, otherwise, I object."

"Are there any objections? Leave for the two Gentlemen to be recorded....."

"I'll be glad to pair with him then, Mr. Speaker."

"All in favor of Representative Peters motion signify by saying 'aye' the opposed saying 'no'. The House stands adjourned until Monday, at the hour of noon."

"Committee Reports. Representative J. J. Wolf, Chairman from the Committee on Appropriations, to which the following Bills were referred. Action taken June 18, 1981 and reported the same back with the following recommendations. Do Pass as amended, Senate Bills 313, 326, 345, 956 and 1228. General Resolution, House Joint Resolution 41, Rhem-Henry-Huff. Committee on Assignment. Introduction and First Reading. House Bill 1918, Carey-Jones, et al. A Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Unified Code of Corrections. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1919, Breslin. A Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1920, Breslin. A Bill for an Act in relationship to Workers' Compensation Workers' Occupational Diseases and Employment 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 Insurance Compensation for volunteer firemen. First Reading of the Bill. House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #15. Resolved by the House of Representatives of the Eighty-Second General Assembly of the State of Illinois, the Senate concurring herein, that there shall be submitted to the electors of the state for adoption or rejection at the general election next occurring at least six months after the adoption of this Resolution, a proposition to amend Section 1 of Article VIII of the Constitution to read as follows: Article VIII. Finance. Section 1. General Provisions. (a) "Public Funds" means any funds belonging to the government which are held by or are under control of any public official in any branch or instrumentality of government. Public funds, property or credit shall be used only for public purposes. No instrumentality of government may receive, hold, expend or use funds which are not public funds except as provided by law or ordinance. The State, units of local government and school districts shall incur obligations for payment to make payment from public funds only as authorized by law or ordinance. Reports and records of the obligation, receipt and use of public funds of the State units of local government, school districts are public records available for inspection by the public according to law. First Reading of this Constitutional Amendment on Third Reading. As amended."

"Constitutional Amendment, Second Reading. House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #7. Resolved by the House of Representatives of the Eighty-Second General Assembly of the State of Illinois, the Senate concurring herein, there shall be submitted to the electors of the state for adoption or rejection at the general election next occurring at least six months after adoption of this 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 Resolution, a proposition to amend Section 4 of Article IX of the Constitution to read as follows; Article IX. Revenue. Section 4. Real property taxation. (a) Except as otherwise provided in this Section, taxes upon real property shall be levied uniformly by valuation ascertained as the General Assembly shall provide by law. (b) Subject to such limitations as the General Assembly may hereafter prescribe by law, counties with population with more than two hundred thousand may classify or continue to classify real property for purposes of taxation. Any such classification shall be reasonable and assessments shall be uniformed within each class. The level of assessment a rate of tax of the highest class in the county shall not exceed two and one half times the levy of assessment or rate of tax of the lowest class in that county. Real property used in forming in the county shall not be assessed at a higher level of assessment than single family residential real property in that county. (c) Any depreciation in the value of real estate occupied by private easement, public easement may be deducted in assessing such property. (d) The affirmative vote of three-fifths of the Members elected to each House of the General Assembly shall be required to pass a law increasing or authorizing an increase in advalorem real property tax rates. Schedule; This Amendment to Article IX of the Constitution takes effect upon its adoption by the electors of this state. Second Reading of the Constitutional Amendment, the constitutional Amendment will be held on Second Reading. House Joint Resoltuion Constitutional Amendment #8. Resolved by the House of Representatives of the Eighty-Second General Assembly of the State of Illinois, the Senate concurring herein, that there shall be submitted to the electors of this state for adoption or 51  67th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 19, 1981 rejection at the general election next occurring at least six months after the adoption of this Resolution, a proposition to amend Section 1 of Article XIV of the Constitution to read as follows: Article XIV. Constitutional Revisions. Section 1, Constitutional Convention. (a) Wherever a three-fifths of the Members elected to each House in the General Assembly so direct the question of whether a Constitutional Convention shall be called submitted to the electors at the general election next occurring at least six months after such legislative direction. (b) The vote on whether to call the Constitution shall be on a separate ballot, a Constitution shall be called if approved by three-fifths of those voting on the question or a majority of those voting in the election. (c) The General Assembly at the Session following the approval of the electors by law shall provide for the Constitution and for the election of two delegates from each Legislative District. Designate the time and place of the Convention's first meeting and shall be within three months after the election of delegates. Fix and provide for the pay of delegates and officers and provide for expenses necessarily incurred by the Convention. (d) To be eligible to be a degelated person, must meet with the same eligibility requirements as a Member of the General Assembly. Vacancies shall be filled as provided by law. (e) The Convention shall prepare such provisions of or Amendments to the Constitution as it deems necessary. Any proposed revision or Amendments provided by a majority of the delegates elected shall be submitted to the electors in such manner as the Convention determines. At an election designated or called by the Convention occurring not less than two...or more than six months after the Conventions adjournment. Any revision or Amendments proposed by the 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 Convention shall be published with explanations as the Convention provides at least one month proceeding the election. (f) The vote on the proposed revision or Amendments shall be on a separate ballot. Any proposed revisions or Amendments shall become effective as the Convention provides, if approved by a majority of those voting on the question. Schedule; this Amendment to Section 1 of Article XIV of the Constitution takes effect upon its approval by the electors of this state. Second Reading of the Constitutional Amendment. Constitutional Amendment will be held on Second Reading. House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #19. Resolved, by the House of Representatives of the Eighty-Second General Assembly of the State of Illinois, the Senate concurring herein, that there shall be submitted to the electors of the state for adoption or rejection at the general election next occurring at least six months after the adoption of this Resolution, a proposition to amend Section 12 of Article VI of the Constitution to read as follows: Article VI. The Judiciary. Section 12. Election and Retention. (a) Supreme, Appellate and Circuit Judges shall be nominated at primary elections or by petition. Judges shall be elected at general or judicial elections as the General Assembly shall provide by law. A person eligible for the office of judge may cause his name to appear on the ballot as a candidate for Judge at the primary and at the general or judicial elections by submitting petitions. The General Assembly shall prescribe by law the requirements for petitions. (b) The office of a Judge shall be vacant upon his death, resignation, retirement, removal, or upon the conclusion of his term. Whenever an additional Appellate or Circuit Judge is authorized by law, the office shall be filled in the manner provided by...for filling a 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 vacancy in that office. (c) A vacancy occurring in the office of Supreme, Appellate or Circuit Judge shall be filled as the General Assembly may provide by law. In the absence of a law, vacancies may be filled by appointment by the Supreme Court. A person appointed to fill a vacancy 60 or more days prior to the next primary election to nominate judges shall serve until the vacancy is filled for a term at the next general or judicial election. A person appointed to fill a vacancy less than 60 days prior to the next primary election to nominate Judges shall serve until the vacancy is filled at the second general or judicial election following such appointment. (d) A law reducing the number of Appellate or Circuit Judges shall become effective when a vacancy occurs in the affected unit. Schedule. If approved by the electors, this Amendment shall take effect the next day following proclamation of the result of the vote. Second Reading of the Constitutional Amendment. Amendment #1 to House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #19, amends House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #19 on page 1, by changing line 24 to read as follows: Conclusion of his term without a successor being elected whenever. Second Reading of the Constitutional Amendment, as amended. Constitutional Amendment will be held on Second Reading. House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #26. Resolved by the House of Representatives of the Eighty-Second General Assembly of the State of Illinois, the Senate concurring herein. There shall be submitted to the electors of this state for adoption or rejection of the general election next occurring at least six months after the adoption of this Resolution. Proposition to amend Section 9 of Article V of the Constitution to read as follows: Article V. Section 9. Governor Appointing 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day June 19, 1981 Power. (a) The Governor shall appoint and by in with the advise and consent of the Senate, a majority of the Members elected concurring by record vote shall appoint all officers whose election or appointment is not otherwise provided for. Any nomination not acted upon by the Senate within 60 Session days after the receipt thereof, shall be deemed to have been rejected by the Senate. The General Assembly shall have no power to elect or appoint officers of the Executive Branch. (b) If during a recess of the Senate there's a vacancy in an office filled by appointment by the Governor by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, the Governor shall make a temporary appointment till the next meeting of the Senate when he shall make a nomination to fill such office. (c) No person rejected by the Senate for an office shall, except at the Senate's request, be nominated again for that office at the same Session or be appointed to that office during a recess of the Senate. Schedule. This Amendment takes effect on the 1st day of January, next following its adoption by the electors of this state. Second Reading of the Constitutional Amendment. This Constitutional Amendment will be held on Second Reading. No further business, the House now stands adjourned until noon, Monday." 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX JUNE 19, 1981 HB-1918 1ST READING PAGE 49 HB-1919 1ST READING PAGE 49 HB-1920 1ST READING PAGE 49 SB-0253 3RD READING PAGE 3 SB-0633 3RD READING PAGE 6 SB-0791 3RD READING PAGE 8 SB-0848 3RD READING PAGE 9 SB-0853 3RD READING PAGE 10 SB-0860 3RD READING PAGE 32 SB-0903 3RD READING PAGE 36 SB-1047 3RD READING PAGE 38 SB-1132 3RD READING PAGE 39 SB-1133 3RD READING PAGE 40 *HJR-0007 2ND READING PAGE 50 *HJR-0008 2ND READING PAGE 51 *HJR-0015 3RD READING PAGE 50 *HJR-0019 2ND READING PAGE 53 *HJR-0026 2ND READING PAGE 54 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER REPRESENTATIVE TELCSER PAGE 1 PRAYER DR. NICHOLS PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE REPRESENTATIVE MURPHY PAGE 1 ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 2 EXCUSED ABSENCES PAGE 2 SUSPENSION OF THE RULES PAGE 47 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 49 COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 49 PAGE 1