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Illinois House Floor Debate — May 6, 1983

83rd General Assembly (1983-1984) · Legislative day 41 · Regular Session
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Speaker Madigan

"The House shall come to order. The House shall come to order. The Members shall be in their chairs. We shall be led in prayer today by the Reverend Terry Rebert, Pastor of Bethlehem Lutheran Church in Broadview, Illinois. Reverend Rebert is a guest of Representative Judy Topinka. Will the guests in the gallery please rise and join us in the invocation?"

Reverend Rebert

"Let us pray. Dear Lord, heavenly Father, there is a vanishing villain in our world today. It is sin. Heavenly Father, ever since sin existed, there has been great problems, wars between nations, between parties, between individuals. But You have not forgotten us, heavenly Father. History is a testimony of Your presence. The ultimate act of Your presence was the sending of Your Son, Jesus Christ, to vindicate us from the ultimate power of sin, death itself. Heavenly Father, through our baptism in the presence of Thy Holy Spirit, help us to solve the problems within the State of Illinois and within ourselves, which give witness to our love and care for others, as You have loved and cared for us. We ask all this in the name of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, who taught us to pray, 'Our Father, who art in heaven, Hallowed be Thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, on earth, as it is in heaven. Give us, this day, our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And led us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For Thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen.. "

Speaker Madigan

"We shall be led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Representative Ropp."

Ropp et al

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one 1 41st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1983 Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Speaker Madigan

"Roll Call for Attendance. Mr. Greiman, are there any excused absences?"

Greiman

"Mr. Speaker, we are in fine fiddle, and there do not appear to be any excused absences."

Speaker Madigan

"Thank you, Mr. Greiman. Mr. Vinson, are there any excused absences?"

Vinson

"Yes, Sir, Mr. Speaker. Representative McMaster, and I might add that Mr. McMaster is doing well and expects to be back with us tomorrow... or next week."

Speaker Madigan

"Let the record show that Representative Master (sic McMaster) is excused. Mr. Clerk, take the record. There being 116 Members responding to the Attendance Roll Call, there is a quorum present. Mr. Clerk, what business do we have? The Chair recognizes Mr. Greiman, for the purpose of moving the Adjournment Resolution. Mr. Clerk, read the Resolution "

O'Brien

"Senate Joint Resolution 39. Resolved by the Senate, of the 83rd General Assembly, of the State of Illinois, the House of Representatives concurring herein, that when the Senate adjourns on Thursday, May 5, 1983, it stands adjourned until Tuesday May 10, 1983, at 12:00 noon. And when the House of Representatives adjourns on Friday May 6, 1983, it stands adjourned until Tuesday, May 10, 1983 at 12:00 noon."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Greiman."

Greiman

"Mr. Speaker, I move for the adoption of the Adjournment Resolution."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Adjournment Resolution. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', all those opposed by saying "no". The 'ayes' have it. The Motion carries. The Adjournment Resolution is 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983 adopted. Mr. Clerk. For what purpose does Mr. McCracken seek recognition?"

McCracken

"Mr... Mr. Speaker, just for the purpose of moving for the assignment to Interim Study of two Bills from Judiciary Committee, 658 and 6..."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. McCracken, let me inquire of the Chair if we have a form to be used for that purpose. Mr. Clerk, do we have a form that can be used for assignment of Bills to the Interim Study Calendar? Well, Mr. McCracken, if you'd come down to the well, complete the form, we can do that a bit more expeditiously than we have been in the past. For what purpose does Mr. Rea seek recognition? Mr. Rea."

Rea

"Yes. As principle Sponsor of House Bills 1517, 1518, and 1519, I would ask leave to table those Bills."

Speaker Madigan

"Is there leave? Leave is granted to table those Bills. Pursuant to previous notification, the first Order of Business will be Motions to discharge Committee on nonappropriation Bills. Therefore, on page thirty-three, of the Calendar, there appears House Bill 2. Mr. Levin. Mr. Levin. Is Mr. Levin in the chamber? Out of the record. House Bill 425 is a Bill assigned to an Appropriation Committee, so we shall not call that Bill. House Bill 621. Mr. Terzich. Do you wish to call that Motion? The Chair recognizes Mr. Terzich."

Terzich

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I believe I filed a Motion on House Bill 621, 666, and 720, and I understand that House Bill 666 was passed out of Committee. Do I need to..."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Terzich, apparently Representative Pullen would like to speak with you."

Terzich

"And also 1399."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Terzich, could you recite those numbers again?"

Terzich

"House Bill 621, 666, 720 and 1399, Mr. Speaker. I 3 41st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1983 filed a Motion on all four Bills."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Terzich, do these Bills relate to a similar subject matter?"

Terzich

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, they all relate to the same subject matter."

Speaker Madigan

"Fine. Mr. Terzich, if we consider your Motion on House Bill 621, and then your Motion on House Bill 666, can I presume that we will not call the Piel Motion on House Bill 666?"

Terzich

"That's correct, Mr. Speaker; however, House Bill 666 is now on the House floor on Second Reading, so I would like to withdraw that Motion on, specifically, on 666."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Terzich withdraws his Motion on House Bill 666. And let the record show that Mr. Piel has withdrawn his Motion on House Bill 666. Mr. G'Connell has withdrawn his Motion on House Bill 720. Representative Pullen, will you withdraw your Motion on House Bill 1399? Mr... Mr. Terzich has filed a Motion. Representative Pullen."

Pullen

"Is it my understanding that my Bill is included in Representative Terzich's Motion?"

Speaker Madigan

"Yes."

Pullen

"And that that's why you're asking to... me to withdraw my individual Motion?"

Speaker Madigan

"Yes. It's a duplicative Motion."

Pullen

"Well, it might or it might not be."

Speaker Madigan

"We can wait. Would you like to wait? Would you feel more secure if we waited?"

Pullen

"I would appreciate that Mr. Speaker. Thank you very much."

Speaker Madigan

"Okay, good. We want you to feel secure and comfortable. Mr. Terzich has moved Motions to discharge the Judiciary Committee on House Bills 621, House Bill 720, and House Bill 1399. And on that Motion, Mr. Jaffe seeks 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day recognition."

Jaffe

May 6, 1983 "Yes, Mr. Speaker, I think it's really rather ironic that Mr. Terzich would make this Motion. As the Members of this House know, the House Judiciary Committee posted special Orders of Business on two occasions asking for only abortion Bills. On those occasions, ve were ready, willing, and able to hear the Bills. I might say that the maker of this Motion, who has appeared before the Judiciary Committee MOZE than any Member of the House, never showed up for either one of those occurrences. I will say further that on the last appearance Representative O'Connell had permission go ahead with all the abortion Bills. I think that there were four of them in the package, if I'm mistaken, four or five. On those four or five, one of them did get out of Committee, and the other three did not. These Bills really have had a thorough hearing in the Judiciary Committee. I think in addition to that, it should be noted, that what has happened is that these Motions were filed long before the time that they were suppose to be posted in Committee. not to They were filed, I don't know, three, four, five weeks ago, and since that time, they've been posted in the Committee at least on two occasions and sometimes on three occasions. I think that Representative O'Connell, by withdrawing his Motion, has indicated that these Bills have always received a good and fair hearing. The fact that they were not able to pass four Bills, which were really totally unconstitutional, and were able to pass one, which I'm in opposition to, but none the less is a constitutional Bill, I think indicates that the Committee did its work. There are people on the Committee who were prolife, who voted against those Bills or who refused to vote on those Bills, because of the fact that... because of the fact that the Committee got such 5 41st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1983 rotten treatment from the Sponsors of those Bills. I think if we want to value the Committee system, we ought to go ahead and defeat these Motions. There is one abortion Bill that passed out on a call. If they want to use that as a vehicle, they can use it as a vehicle, but these Bills certainly got a fair hearing. And for Mr. Terzich to appear on these Motions, when in fact he never appeared before the Committee, although they were posted, I think just underlines the fact how ludicrous this particular Motion is. But again, I say, the important thing is the Committee structure, and if you value the Committee structure, you ought to vote 'no' on these Motions."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Vinson."

Vinson

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, two points. First, I'm advised that Representative Oblinger should also be an excused, absence, and would the record so note that, please?"

Speaker Madigan

"Let the record show that Representative Oblinger is excused."

Vinson

"And second, would you repeat the Bill numbers that this Motion applies to? I think there are three Bills that it applies to. Aren't there? And I... There are two that I'm sure of and the third one, I'm not sure of."

Speaker Madigan

"House Bill 621. House Bill 720. House Bill 1399. Representative Pullen."

Pullen

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I was amused to hear from the Chairman about how fair the treatment was that the Committee gave these Bills. I appeared before the Judiciary Committee on a totally noncontroversial matter, on the same day that one of... that my Bill in the package was posted without my request, and had to ask leave that another Member hold my noncontroversial Bill for a Roll Call til later, because there were not enough votes there to pass even a 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983 noncontroversial Bill, that ended up with no negative votes. And yet, the Chairman invited me, at that time, to please either call my prolife Bill right then, or leave it in his hands, so that he could handle my prolife Bill for me, if you can imagine that. That's one example of the treatment. I asked another Gentleman, who was sitting on the Committee, to call my Bill later that morning, after I had, as I explained to the Chairman, worked some things out with some witnesses, because I was not prepared to go forward at that moment. And certainly, the Gentleman, that I asked to have handle the Bill, will have to speak for himself to this point, but he did inform me later that he asked the Chairman to call the Bill later on, and the Chairman, somehow, I guess, didn't hear him, or somehow shrugged off his request. I think that the Members of this House know enough about the House Judiciary Committee to understand what's going on here, and I would urge and 'aye' vote on Representative Terzich's Motion."

Speaker Madigan

"Representative O'Connell."

O'Connell

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I think I fir.. should first of all clarify something that was mentioned by my respected colleague, the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee. The only reason I withdrew my Motion to discharge is because Representative Terzich is considering all three in his Motion, and rather than take up the time of the House, I withdrew my Motion to discharge. I think I should also address, as a Member of the Judiciary Committee, that the issue really isn't whether we receive a fair hearing in a Judiciary Committee or not. As to that point, I must say, that I do believe that we received a fair hearing on the Judiciary Committee. The Bills were... we were notified as to when the Bills were to be heard, and they were heard. We did not receive 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983 the favorable vote that we would have wanted; therefore, we are entitled to this Motion to discharge, regardless of when we file the Motion, and regardless as to the arguments as to whether one considers a fair hearing or not. As a Member of the Judiciary Committee, we were afforded the courtesies to be heard on two separate occasions, and I think that should be stated for the record. I also think it should be stated for the record that we have every legitimate procedural right to proceed with this Motion to discharge. I feel that these Bills are substantive. They're very complex, and they're very deserving of the entire floor debate. And I do not think that the issue should be the makeup of the Judiciary Committee. I think the issue should be the makeup of these Bills, which I feel warrant the entire and clear debate that should be presented on this Body. Thank you.""

Speaker Madigan

"Representative John Dunn. John Dunn."

Dunn

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. At the time the Bills in question, on the Motion before us, were considered in the Judiciary Committee, of which I am a Member, I asked the Sponsor, the acting Sponsor presenting those Bills, approximately how long these particular Motions to discharge had been on the Calendar. I don't know the exact date the Motions were filed, but he did concede to me that they had been on the Calendar in excess of two weeks. And that means, Ladies and Gentlemen, that the mover of these Motions decided more than two weeks ago, that one of the duly appointed standing Committees of this General Assembly, in the House of Representatives, duly appointed and constituted by the Speaker of this House, was presumed in advance to be so prejudiced on the issues that he was advancing, that he knew he could not get a fair hearing. He filed these Motions in anticipation of any 8 41st Legislative Day STATE OP ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1983 action the Committee might take to pass the Bills, τα reject the Bills, to hear the Bills, not to hear the Bills. And you have just heard the last Speaker indicate that the Bills were heard at a time certain, set for the convenience of those who are interested in this legislation, and that the Bills were given a fair hearing in Committee. Those of us, who respect the Committee system, in the Illincis General Assembly, know that if we are to pass good legislation, and reject legislation, which should not be passed, the great bulk of that work should be done in the Committees. The Committees should be given wholehearted support. And those Members, who take the time to attend Committee hearings, to sit in Committee hearings, to stay there, when they would rather be in some other Committee, presenting one of their own Bills, deserve to have some degree of cooperation from the Sponsors presenting Bills before their Committees. They do not deserve the kind of consideration they get when a Motion to discharge is filed more than two weeks before the end... the deadline for hearing Committee Bills, and before any action has been taken on the Bills. If these Bills had been presented in Committee two, three, or four weeks ago, and the Sponsor got a Roll Call that the didn't like, and he chose to come before the House of Representatives after the Roll Call and file his Motion, that is something that all of us understand. But to... to brand the Committee as prejudice, in advance, is something that a Committee Member should not tolerate. I am a Member of that Committee. I'm an endorsed prolife candidate, but I refuse to be intimidated into voting any way on any issue. I voted 'present' on all the Bills in Committee, because of the posture taken by the Sponsor of this Motion, filing these Motions two and three weeks in advance of Committee consideration, and I would 9 41st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSENELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1983 urge defeat of this Motion today."

Speaker Madigan

"Representative Sam Wolf. Sam Wolf."

Wolf

"Mr. Speaker, I move the previous question."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentleman moves the previous question. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', all those opposed by saying 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The previous question has been moved. The Chair recognizes Mr. Terzich to close."

Terzich

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Unfortunately, I've been before the Judiciary Committee just about every week since the Committees began, and I think I've been their most frequent visitor, and one of the longest waiters at the Committee to hear some of the Bills being called. But in any event, I would say that it's within my right to present this type of a Motion on a subject matter, which I feel is very, very important to the people of the General Assembly and also the State of Illinois. This has to deal with the child's life, the unborn child, and the prolife movement... movement in the State of Illinois. And I think that we should ri... rise above the fact of whether or not the Motion was filed before the Judiciary hearing. Previously, all of these Bills normally went to the Executive Committee. It just so happens that it didn't go there this year; and therefore, I felt that this type of a Motion was necessary, so that the General Assembly would be afforded an opportunity to express their feelings for the unborn child in the State of Illinois. And I would hopefully and respectfully request that all of the Members support me in this Motion to move these Bills."

Speaker Madigan

"The question is, 'Shall this Motion be adopted?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'no'. Representative Karpiel to 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983 explain her vote. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 78 'ayes', 23 'nos'. The Motion is adopted, and House Bills 621, 720, and 1399 have been discharged from the Judiciary Committee. Is Representative Pullen in the chamber? Penny, we want to clear the Calendar. How about your Motion? Shall we withdraw that? Representative Pullen's Motion on House Bill 1399 is withdrawn. House Bill 1725. Representative Karpiel. For what purpose is Representative Didrickson seeking recognition?"

Didrickson

"Mr. Speaker, point of personal privilege, please."

Speaker Madigan

"Proceed."

Didrickson

"I would like to introduce the 8th grade class from Madison, Illinois, School District 159, and their teacher Jean 'Bodner' and their assistant principal Tim 'McCarthy', up here in the gallery. If you'd all give them a warm welcome. Thank you."

Speaker Madigan

"Representative Karpiel on House Bill 1725."

Karpiel

"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I make a Motion to... just a moment, please. All right, Mr. Speaker. I make a Motion to discharge House Bill 1725 from Cities and Villages."

Speaker Madigan

"The Lady has moved to discharge House Bill 1725 from the Committee on Cities and Villages. The Chair recognizes the Chairman of the Committee, Representative Giglio. Mr. Giglio."

Giglio

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise to support Representative Karpiel's request. We got someway fouled up in the Committee yesterday, and something happened to this Bill, and I told her I have no problem supporting her and would ask the House also do it."

Speaker Madigan

"Representative Karpiel moves to discharge the Committee on Cities and Villages from further consideration 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983 of House Bill 1725. The Chairman of the Committee supports the Lady's Motion. Is there leave? Leave is granted. The Motion is adopted. On the Order of Postponed Consideration. On page twenty-nine of the Calendar, there appears House Bill 18. Mr. Capparelli. Fine. And the Chair recognizes the Clerk of the House to tell the Speaker the current posture of this Bill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 18 was read previously, and on April d 20th, the Bill was moved to Consideration Postpone.""

Speaker Madigan

"The Chair recognizes Mr. Brunsvold. Mr. Brunsvold, this Bill is now on the Order of Consideration Postponed, and if you wish to move an Amendment then you must request that the Bill be place on the Order of Second Reading."

Brunsvold

"Yes, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 18 would raise the... all right... request this to be moved back to Second Reading for an Amendment."

Speaker Madigan

"All right. Is there leave? Leave is granted. The Bill is placed on the Order of Second Reading for the purpose of Amendment. Mr. Brunsvold. Mr. Clerk, read the Amendment."

O'Brien

"Amendment #2, by Brunsvold, amend House Bill 18 on page one, by deleting line one and two and so forth."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Brunsvold."

Brunsvold

"Amendment #1(sic - #2)... Amendment #1(sic - #2) on House Bill 18 would include downstate in the raising of the... of the Homestead Exemption from $25,000.00 to $3,000.00... $30,000.00 or $25,000.00 to $30,000.00 on home improvements. All this Amendment does is to include the downstate. Excuse me, this is Amendment #2."

Speaker Madigan

"The Chair would like to correct the record to show that House Bill 18 was moved to the Order of Second Reading at the request of the Sponsor of the Bill, Mr. 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983 Capparelli. So now Mr. Brunsvold has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2, and on that question, does anyone seek recognition? Mr. Vinson."

Vinson

"Mr. Speaker, I wonder if the Sponsor might take the Bill out of the record at this time, so that we can examine the Amendment."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentleman agrees to take the Bill out of the record. And Mr. Brunsvold, would you share that Amendment with Mr. Vinson?"

Brunsvold

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Madigan

"On the Order of Postponed Consideration, there appears House Bill 230. Mr. Terzich."

Terzich

"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I would like to have House Bill 230 brought back to Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentleman requests leave to take this Bill back to the Order of Second Reading for the purpose of an Amendment. Is there leave? Leave is granted. The Bill is placed on the Order of Second Reading for the purpose of Amendment. Mr. Terzich."

O'Brien

"Amendment #3, Vinson, amends House Bill 230 as amended in Sections..."

Speaker Madigan

"On the Amendment, Mr. Vinson."

Vinson

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The Bill, as it currently stands, permits any county officer to request a... an opinion of the Attorney General. We opposed that Bill as it stood, because of the tremendous number of people that would be requesting those opinions, and because of the potential cost impact. The Sponsor has discussed the Bill with us, and we have worked out what we believe is a reasonable alternative. Under that alternative, only those county officers, who are created by the Constitution, would be able to request such 13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983 an opinion. And because the Attorney General is also created by the Constitution, those county officers are.... there is some meaningful theory for doing that. The cost should be substantially reduced, and for those reasons, I would ask for adoption of the Amendment."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Vinson moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 (sic 3). Is there any discussion? There being no discussion, all those in favor of the Amendment say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

O'Brien

"No further Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"This Bill shall be placed on the Order of Consideration Postponed. For what purpose does Mr. Cullerton seek recognition?"

Cullerton

"Mr. Speaker, on this last Bill, House Bill 230. Was that Amendment #1 that we just adopted?"

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Clerk can you respond to Mr. Cullerton's inquiry?"

O'Brien

"I'm sorry. It was Amendment #3. 1 and 2 were adopted previously."

Speaker Madigan

"Let the record show that the Amendment just adopted was Amendment #3. Thank you, Mr. Cullerton. For what purpose does Mr. Panayotovich seek recognition?"

Panayotovich

"Mr... Mr. Speaker, a point of pr... personal privilege."

Speaker Madigan

"Proceed."

Panayotovich

"Up to my left, I'd like welcome the 8th grade class of the Warren School from my district, along with their instructor, Carolyn 'Currie', who is one of my campaign people. Welcome to Springfield. Thank you."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Vinson, are we prepared to consider House Bill 18?"

Vinson

"Yes, Sir." 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983

Speaker Madigan

"All right. The Order of Business shall be House Bill 18, on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Brunsvold has moved an Amendment, and Mr. Clerk, would you confirm that this is Amendment #1?"

O'Brien

"Amendment #2, Brunsvold."

Speaker Madigan

"All right. Mr. Brunsvold has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2. On that question, the Chair recognizes Mr. Hastert."

Hastert

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Would the Sponsor yield for questions?"

Speaker Madigan

"Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

Hastert

"Well, Mr. Sponsor, Representative Brunsvold. What is the fiscal impact on downstate taxing districts? Do you know for this Amendment?"

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Brunsvold."

Brunsvold

"I'm informed there is no impact."

Hastert

"Why?"

Brunsvold

"The... I would yield to... to Mr. Carpelli to answer that... Capparelli."

Speaker Madigan

"The Chair recognizes Mr. Capparelli."

Capparelli

"This is on renovation and remodeling of new homes, and we don't just know how many permits will be taken out. And eventually they will get the money on this after four years. So the impact, would be that... would be that to be some growth and not loss."

Hastert

"Representative Capparelli, thank you. To the Amendment, Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Brunsvold."

Hastert

"I think it's Mr. Hastert."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Hastert."

Hastert

"Right."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Hastert."

Hastert

"We're at a time when we've... the State of Illinois is 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983 in some fiscal problems, but our local taxing disticts in downstate Illincis also are really strapped, and what we're doing here is strapping them even more for a period of the next four years, in taking away their tax base. We've talked about this time and time again on the the House floor. And we start destroying the tax bac... base of local governments, they come right back to State Government for that money, the money that their losing in school districts, and municipalities, and park districts, and if you sat in Revenue Committee through all the 100 and some Bills, you see this is a concurring problem, They're coming back to the state for reimbursement. I... I think this Bill, if it was a serious concern of the Sponsor of this Amendment, he should have been in Revenue Committee and presented that Bill there. I just can't see tagging this type of... of destruction on the property tax base for local governments on... on a Bill. I ask that you oppose it."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Mautino."

Mautino

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I stand in support of Amendment #2 to House Bill 18, because this legislation allows the home owners to make improvements in their property without having their tax increase for that first guadrennial. It seems to me, rather ridiculous, since the original Bill only allows those in Cook County, in the City of Chicago, to have improvements completed on their homesteads and receive the provisions that are not in the sate posture of those individuals living downstate. In... included in that Amendment, of course, is the fact that it costs more to improve your home now than it did a year or two... two ago, but it allows people to put that extra H〇〇日 on, ΟΣ extend for an area between a garage and a home for another to 16 41st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1983 usable piece of proper... usable area within their property. I think it's a good piece of legislation that will put people to work, first of all adding on. And number two, it will not penalize them for fixing up their homes. It's been said to all of us in the General Assembly, the homeowners are getting rather tired of being taxed, when in fact they put no new improvements on their home. This, in fact, allows them to improve their homes, without having that large tax increase for that four year period. It's a good Amendment. It treats Chicago just like downstate, and it should be adopted."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Ewing."

Ewing

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. We continue to take away from local government. Now certainly, this is a laudable approach to those people who's assessments are going up because of improvements. But let's face it. Who is the Representative improving... who is he helping? Those who can afford to improve their home by $30,000.00. I would think that $25,000.00 was an ample sum to delete from the tax Bills. How many of the working men and women, the farmers, those people with smaller incomes can afford to put over $25,000.00 in home improvements? We've already done that. And now we want to make it $30,000.00. Well, I think all of those with higher incomes should thank Representative Mautino for this nice little break that they're going to get on their homes, and local governments and schools can go without. I would suggest a 'no' vote."

Speaker Madigan

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted to House Bill 18?' All those in favor of the Amendment signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Sam, would you vote Mr. Fierce 'aye'?" 17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1983 41st Legislative Day Mr. Daniels."

Daniels

"Well, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I think it's perhaps time that we realize exactly what we're doing by this Amendment. Now if you're prepared to vote for a tax increase, if you're prepared to turn your back in a cruel manner, on the taxpayers of this state, then you'll support an Amendment like this, which really erodes the local tax base back home, when you're telling people back home, *We're trying to hold the line on spending." Now I, for one, do not like getting up and voting against an Amendment like this, because like many of you, I also pay real estate taxes, and I also have the same kind of liability that you face. But I am not prepared, at this time, to say our taxpayers that I got all the information available to me, to support an income tax or for that matter, to be against an income tax, at this point. Be careful on these Amendments. Be careful on the things that you're doing right now, and be careful when you're telling your people back hose that you're for holding the line on governmental spending, but then turning around and eroding the local tax base, the local real estate tax that supports your schools and your local form of government, before you turn around and support Amendments like this."

Speaker Madigan

"Have all voted who wish? The... Mr. Brunsvold to explain his vote."

Brunsvold

"This Amendment... I introduced this Amendment to try to equalize the Cook County area and downstate, and that was the purpose of the Amendment. If you wish to vote against the Bill, that's fine, but I think we should treat both entities in the same... in the same manner. The Amendment simply puts them equal. Then, if... if you wish to vote against the Bill, when it's presented, that's fine. 18 41st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1983 But I think it should be... both areas should be treated equally. Thank you."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Vinson."

Vinson

"Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time, I would request a verification."

Speaker Madigan

"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On the question of the Amendment, Mr. Vinson... Mr. Vinson... on the question of the Amendment, there are 64 'ayes', and 49 'nos'."

Vinson

"That's why I want to verify it."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Clerk, proceed to a verification of the affirmative Roll Call, and before you do that poll the absentees."

O'Brien

"Poll of the absentees. McMaster, Oblinger, and Richmond."

Speaker Madigan

"Proceed to a poll of the affirmative vote."

O'Brien

"Berrios, Bowman, Breslin, Brummer, Brunsvold, Bullock, Capparelli, Christensen, Cullerton, Curran, Currie, DeJaegher, DiPrima, Domico, Doyle, John Dunn, Farley, Flinn, Giglio, Giorgi, Greiman, Hannig, Hicks, Homer, Huff, Hutchins, Jaffe, Keane, Krska, Kulas, Laurino, Leverenz, Levin, Marzuki, Matijevich, Mautino, McGann, McPike, Mulcahey, Nash, O'Connell, Panayotovich, Pangle, Pierce, Preston, Rea, Rhem, Rice, Ronan, Saltsman, Satterthwaite, Shaw, Slape, Steczo, Stuffle, Taylor, Terzich, Van Duyne, Vitek, White, Wolf, Younge, Yourell, and Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Clerk, how many affirmative votes are there?"

O'Brien

"64 'aye' votes."

Speaker Madigan

"We begin with 64 votes. Mr. Vinson, are there any challenges?"

Vinson

"Yes, Sir. Mr. Bullock." 19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983

Speaker Madigan

"Is Mr. Bullock in the chamber? Remove Mr. Bullock from the Roll Call."

Vinson

"Mr. Doyle."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Doyle is in his chair."

Vinson

"Mr. Farley."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Farley is in his chair."

Vinson

"Mr. Hicks."

Speaker Madigan

"Representative Hicks. Representative Bicks is in his chair."

Vinson

"Mr. Huff."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Huff. Is Mr. Huff in the chamber? Remove the Gentleman from the Roll Call."

Vinson

"Mr. Kulas."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Kulas is in his chair."

Vinson

"Mulcahey."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Mulcahey. Mr. Mulcahey. Is Mr. Mulcahey in the chamber? Remove the Gentleman from the Roll Call. For what purpose does Mr. Richmond seek recognition? Mr. Richmond."

Richmond

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. May I be recorded as 'aye' please?"

Speaker Madigan

"Record the Gentleman an 'aye'. Mr. Vinson."

Vinson

"Representative Panayotovich."

Speaker Madigan

"Panayotovich is in the rear of the chamber."

Vinson

"Representative Rhem."

Speaker Madigan

"Representative Rhem is in his chair."

Vinson

"Mr. Rice."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Rice is in his chair."

Vinson

"Representative Steczo."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Steczo is at the side of the chamber."

Vinson

"Mr. Stuffle."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Stuffle is at the rear of the chamber."

Vinson

"Representative Vitek." 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day

Speaker Hadigan

"Mr. Vitek. Is Mr. Vitek in the chamber? Remove the Gentleman."

Vinson

"Representative Younge."

Speaker Madigan

"Representative Younge is in the press box."

Vinson

"Representative Taylor."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Taylor. Remove the Gentleman."

Vinson

"Representative Nash."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Nash, standing..."

Vinson

"He ought to be voting our way if he's over here."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Nash is present."

Vinson

"No further questions."

Speaker Madigan

"On this question, there are 60 'ayes', 49 'nos'. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

O'Brien

"No further Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"On the Order of Motions, on page... House Bill 18 shall be returned to the Order of Postponed Consideration. Mr. Vinson."

Vinson

"Mr. Speaker, I believe the Clerk could inform you that a fiscal note has been filed on that Bill, as it was just amended; and therefore, it has to remain on Second Reading, pursuant to our Rules."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Clerk. Mr. Clerk was there a regu... request for a fiscal note. The fiscal note request has been properly filed, Mr. Capparelli, so that you will be required to file an amended fiscal note, before the Bill can move from Second to Third Reading. The Bill shall now remain on the Order of Second Reading, because a fiscal note request has been filed. So the Bill shall remain on the Order of Second Reading. On page thirty-six of the Calendar, there appears a Motion relative to House Bill 1349. Mr. DiPrima, do you wish to call your Motion? Is Mr. DiPrima in the chamber? You have filed a Motion 21 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983 relative to House Bill 1349 to discharge the Committee. Do you wish to move your Motion? It concerns the Selective Service System. Would you return to your chair to speak to the Motion? Mr. Clerk, read the Motion."

O'Brien

"Motion pursuant to Rule 35 (b) I move to take House Bill 1349 from the Speaker's table, which was reported out of Committee unfavorably, and placed on the Calendar, under the Order of House Bills Second Reading, first legislative day. Representative DiPrima."

Speaker Madigan

"For what purpose does... for what purpose does Mr. Matijevich seek recognition?"

Matijevich

"I have a parla... parliamentary intr... inquiry, Mr. Speaker. With regards to the Bill that Brunsvold amended, under Rule 37(b), 'A Bill returned to the Order of Second Reading, to which amendments have been adopted, shall not again be taken up on the Order of Third Reading, that same legislative day and shall... shall be readvanced to the Order of Business on the Calendar from which it was returned to Second Reading... to Second Reading.' That means that Bill has to go back to the Order of Postponed Consideration. It doesn't say 'may'. It says 'shall'. And my inquiry is that Bill belongs on the Order of Postponed Consideration... Third... on Third Reading Postponed Consideration. I think it's Postponed... the word is."

Parliamentarian Getty

"On behalf of the Speaker, who had ruled that the Bill would be replaced to the Order of Postponed Consideration; however, it would stay in the status of Second Reading, on Postponed Consideration, because of the fiscal note having been required."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. DiPrima on a Motion on House Bill 1349."

DiPrima

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I would like to move to take from the Speaker's table, which House Bill 1349, which was reported 22 41st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1983 out of Committee unfavorably, and place it on the Order of Second Reading. At the time, there was just a handful of people, the minimal amount that could possibly hear the Bill, but I know I won't have any problem once I get it on the flooΣ. This..."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Clerk."

DiPrima

"... intelligent Body..."

Speaker Hadigan

"Mr. Clerk, what did the Committee report relative to this Bill?"

O'Brien

"The Committee report was, 'do not pass'."

Speaker Madigan

"Which Committee?"

DiPrima

"Higher Education."

O'Brien

"Higher Education Committee."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. DiPrima has... has moved to take House Bill 1349 from the table because there was a 'do not pass' Motion adopted in the Committee on Righer Education. And on that Motion, the Chair recognizes the Chairperson of Higher Education, Representative Satterthwaite."

Satterthwaite

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, the Bill in question here did have a fair hearing in Committee. There were witnesses there in opposition to the Bill. The matter of the constitutionality of the Bill, before us, was placed in question. There was adequate discussion on the measure in the Committee, and in the normal course of events the 'do not pass' Motion was made and seconded, and the Motion prevailed. I think that if we have any regard for the action of the Committee process in our deliberations here, that we should not honor this Sponsor's request for his Motion to take this Bill from the table, and I urge you to vote 'no' on the Motion."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Bowman." owman: "Inquiry of the Chair, Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Madigan

"Proceed." 23 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1983 41st Legislative Day

Bowman

"I seem to recall a Rule that I... I can't find the relevant Section right now. A Rule that indicates that if a Committee recommendation is, 'do not pass', that that tables the Bill, and that the Sponsor of the Bill, in order to have the... a Motion like this considered must file the Motion, within I believe, it's 48 hours or two legislative days, perhaps, of the... the Committee action. And I would like to ask first of all, if my recollection of that Rule is correct? And second of all, if it is correct, can the Clerk inform us as to when the Amen... the Motion was filed and was it properly filed?"

Parliamentarian Getty

"Rule 74 provides, 'A Motion, to take from the table, shall be taken up... shall not be taken up until it appears on the daily Calendar. Motions to take from the table may be filed with the Clerk at any time and shall appear on the daily Calendar on the next legislative day. A Motion to take from the table shall require the affirmative vote of 71 Members.'"

Bowman

"Mr. Speaker, I think that in order to... the Motion... this Motion is to discharge Committee. Is that... is that correct? Or it's to take from the table? Okay. Was the... the Motion properly filed? Is the question properly before us?"

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Clerk, the Gentleman has made an inquiry of your office."

O'Brien

"Yes, the Motion was properly filed within two legislative days from the report."

Bowman

"I see. And this will take 71 votes."

Speaker Madigan

"That is correct."

Bowman

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Johnson."

Johnson

"I... I'm going to direct this to the mo... movent, but I think probably Representative Satterthwaite could... 24 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day could respond maybe better than the movent May 6, 1983 because could, the movent has a tendency not to be responsive to questions. How long did... how long... how many witnesses and for what length of time were you allowed to present this Bill Representative DiPrima?"

DiPrima

"There was only one witness, and that witness vas a representative of the A.C.L.U. if you know what I mean."

Johnson

"No. No. I'm... I'm talking about... Given your past history of the A.C.L.U., I doubt whether you know what they mean. On... on your behalf, and on behalf of the Bill, how long were you allowed to present the... present the legislation? Were you cut off?"

DiPrima

"What are we going to go in, the minutes and seconds? I don't know."

Johnson

"No. I'm just asking you how long you were allowed to present the Bill."

DiPrima

"I throw in the sponge in a hurry, when I saw there vas just enough there... a minimal amount of Members present. I though possibly I might be able to get it passed out, because that woman from the A.C.L.U. vas there, but I vas stunned at the outcome."

Johnson

"What vas... what vas the vote? What vas the vote on this Bill?"

DiPrima

"Four to one, again... against me. That vas one of the first votes I ever lost in House Committee. That's right. I want revenge."

Johnson

"The vote... vell, I have to say as a stand up act that Representative DiPrima does a heck of a job, but realistically in terms of the process, when someone is allowed to present a Bill and the opponents are allowed to present their position, and it's defeated to the extent that this one vas, and I guess I'm not allowed to debate the Bill, but when ve have to debate the Bill, you'll see 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983 how patently unconstitutional it is. I certainly don't think this is the kind of thing that we ought to be troubling the House with, and the time of the House with, to vote Bills like this out. As I understand it, talking to the Members of the Committee, and the people who were there, this Bill had an eminently fair hearing. It got beat overwhelmingly, and I think we ought to give it an equally overwhelming defeat on this Motion."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Vinson."

Vinson

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in support of the Gentleman's Motion to discharge the Committee. I rise in support of the Motion, because the Gentleman has a good Bill. All the Gentleman's Bill does is to ask Illinois citizens to comply with Federal law, and I think that's a good Bill. I think beyond that, the fact, that one Committee happens to view an issue differently than the full House, doesn't give that Committee the right to bottle that Bill up and to kill that Bill. If it's a good idea, this full General Assembly, elected by all the people in this state, ought to consider the Bill and ought to vote the Bill out, pass it, send it to the Governor and have him sign it. I think it's a good Bill, something we all ought to support, and it's... it's as American as apple pie."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Krska."

Krska

"Mr. Speaker, I move the previous question."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Krska, there is no one seeking recognition, so the Motion could be withdrawn and is withdrawn. Mr. DiPrima to close. Mr. DiPrima to close."

DiPrima

"Yes, well, I think if anybody looks up the legislation, it speaks for itself. I don't want to discuss the merits of the Bill until after we get it passed out, and it comes up next week, and I would appreciate your 'aye' vote. 26 41st Legislative Day Thank you." STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1983

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentleman moves that the Committee on Higher Education strike that... The Gentleman moves that House Bill 1349 be taken from the Committee on Higher Education. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'no'. The Chair repre... recognizes Representative Satterthwaite."

Satterthwaite

"Mr. Speaker, just for correction. The Bill is not in Higher Education. The Bill was reported out of Committee with a 'do not pass' Motion. The appropriate Motion is to take from the table."

Speaker Madigan

"Yes. The Chair stands corrected. The appropriate Motion is to take from the table. And the Chair recognizes Representative Shaw."

Shaw

". Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen, to explain my vote. I serve on the Higher Education Committee, and that was a six, one, and one in Committee, to 'do not pass'. And at that time, I thought it was a bad Bill, and I know that the state of... of... Minnesota, I believe it is, the Supreme Court in that state has just defeated... overturned a Bill like this, and that's... I think the Bill is totally uncon... unconstitutional. I think that it would be.. be denying the citizens of this state their constitutional rights, and that's why I voted against it, and I'm voting against it now. And I urge the Members of this House to vote to kill this Motion."

Speaker Madigan

"The Chair recognizes Mr. Friedrich."

Friedrich

"Mr. Speaker, in explanation of my vote. I think those who receive the benefits of our scholarship program should not be law violators, and that's the reason I'm voting 'aye', and I think the rest of you ought to do the same thing."

Speaker Madigan

"Have all voted who wish? The Chair recognizes 27 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983 Representative Topinka to explain her vote."

Topinka

"Yes, Mr. Chairman, and Members of this House. I know we've all been subjected to numerous inquiries and pu... visits by representatives of the various universities here, in the State of Illinois, for at least the last three or four weeks, asking that we are... you know, fund cuts that have been in education, fully fund education, new monies for education. Let's do all we can for the universities and the colleges here in Illinois, and that's all very well and good, but I personally resent the fact that we help fund all of this to whatever extent we can, and then ultimately wind up with draft dodgers, who don't care enough about this country to serve in exchange for that. And I do encourage more 'aye' votes."

Speaker Madigan

"Representative Brookins to explain his vote."

Brookins

"Mr. Speaker, I serve on the Higher Education Commission, and I have the deepest respect for the Sponsor of this Bill, but I think that it did receive in Committee the proper hearing, and I know that I am a veteran, myself. I have encouraged my young folks, my kids to register, and they have their registration cards, but this Bill is a bad Bill; and therefore, I must vote against it, and I encourage the rest of the Members of this House to do the same."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Bowman to explain his vote."

Bowman

"Just to indicate that should this receive the necessary majority, and I'm happy to see that a lot of people are... are not here today, but if it does get to 71 I will request a verification."

Speaker Madigan

"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 64 'ayes', 25 'nos'. The Motion fails. On Supplemental Calendar #1, on the Order of Motions, there appears House Bill 1288. Mr. 28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1983 41st Legislative Day Davis: Davis." "Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move now to discharge the Transportation and Motor Vehicles Committee and advance to the Order of Second Reading, first legislative day, pursuant to Rule 77 (a), on the subject matter contained in House Bill 1288. In explanation of the Motion, Sir, I should simply say that this morning our attendance was quite light in the Transportation Committee, as they were in all Committees. We had a little problem. The Bill got seven votes, I believe, and one 'no' vote, one 'aye' vote. The votes, that were committed to it, had to be elsewhere in Committee. I don't think we really had the... the fully debated hearing that the Bill deserved, and I simply would offer it to you now for your consideration for the House floor. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentleman moves to discharge the Committee on Transportation of House Bill 1288. Is there any discussion? Mr. Cullerton."

Cullerton

"Yes. Will the Sponsor yield? Representative Davis."

Speaker Madigan

"The Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

Cullerton

"Representative Davis, with respect to the substance of the Bill, there's... there's a term guote, 'daily demand service'. 'Daily demand service may pertain to a dial-a-ride service. Now my question to you is, 'does the incorporation of this term in the Bill, this Bill allowing for a township to disconnect if they are not receiving regular bus service, does that also cover dial-a-ride service?' In other words, if they're receiving the dial-a-ride service would they be allowed to disconnect?"

Davis

"May I respond, Mr. Speaker. Yes, indeed, Mr. Cullerton. The answer to your question is yes, although we're not supposed to debate the subject matter of the Bill. The answer to your question is yes. Dial-a-ride is included as 29 41st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1983 a prohibition for disconnect."

Cullerton

"Well, so if they did get dial-a-ride, then they couldn't disconnect."

Davis

"That's correct."

Cullerton

"Okay."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Davis has moved that... that House Bill 1288 be discharged from the Committee on Transportation. Is there leave? Leave is granted. The Gentleman's Motion is adopted. House Bill 1815. Mr. Levin. The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Motion. House Bill 1869. Representative Zwick. The Lady indicates that she would like to be recognized. That's what she's been telling the Republican Leadership."

Zwick

"Right, I'm still working on it. I'd like to withdraw the Motion, if I may please."

Speaker Madigan

"The Motion shall be withdrawn."

Zwick

"Thank you."

Speaker Madigan

"House Bill 1896. Representative Koehler. Representative Koehler. Let the record show that there is no response. House Bill 1908. Mr. Davis. Mr. Davis."

Davis

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 1908 did not have an opportunity to get any hearing at all, for that matter, in the Public Utilities Commission... Committee this morning, and for that reason, we immediately moved for consideration of a discharge Motion. A Motion I would make at this particular time."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentleman moves to discharge House Bill 1908 from the Committee on Public Utilities. On that question, the Chair recognizes Mr. Brummer."

Brummer

"Yes, Mr. Chairman, the Public Utilities Committee met this morning. Representative Davis was not there. We have not had an opportunity to hear this because the Sponsor was not there to call the Bill. I was not informed of the 30 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983 filing of this Motion, and I guess there's no obligation on his part to do SO, but this Bill was not heard. He's absolutely correct. It was not heard because the Sponsor was not there, and I would oppose this Motion at this time."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Davis has moved to discharge House Bill 1908 from the Committee on Public Utilities. The Chairman of the Committee, Representative Brummег, has stood in opposition to the Motion. All those in favor of the Motion signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 45 'ayes and 53 'nos', and the Motion fails. House Bill 1971. Representative Karpiel. The Lady indicates that she does not wish to move her Motion. House Bill 2177. Representative Younge. The Chair recognizes Representative Younge."

Younge

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to discharge the Committee on Higher Education in reference to House Bill 2177. This Bill would rename a program, the Katherine Dunham Applied Technology Program, and I ask leave to discharge the Committee. I don't believe there's any objections."

Speaker Madigan

"The Lady moves that House Bill 2177 be discharged from the Committee on Higher Education. On that question, the Chair recognizes the Chairperson of the Committee, Representative Satterthwaite."

Satterthwaite

"Mr. Speaker, I have no objection, if the Sponsor can muster the votes to get this out. There was a fair hearing in Committee, but it was a time when attendance was rather low, and it was difficult to keep a quorum in the room at that time."

Speaker Madigan

"Representative Younge moves to discharge the 31 41st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1983 Committee on Higher Education from further consideration of House Bill 2177. The Chairperson indicates that there is no objection. For what purpose does Mr. Johnson seek recognition?"

Johnson

"Well, it really is a matter of... of consistency in procedure. Just a few minutes ago, we had a Bill and I certainly concurred with the... Representative Satterthwaite in opposition to the Motion to discharge, and the Motion failed. Now we have a different Bill, and apparently a different subject matter, and the Representative indicates she doesn't object, even though it had a fair hearing. I'd just like to know what kind of standards are going to be applicable with respect to Motions to discharge. We're either going to believe in the Committee process, or we're not. I don't know how this differs any, other than setting up some new center that's going to cost several million dollars or billion dollars, so we can increase taxes a little bit this year."

Speaker Madigan

"Representative Satterthwaite."

Johnson

"Representative Younge had her hearing. I don't know why she can't live with the results like every other Member of this House."

Speaker Madigan

"Representative Satterthwaite."

Satterthwaite

"Mr. Speaker, the difference between this Motion and the other Motion pertaining to a Bill that had been heard in Higher Education is that this Bill had a 'do pass' Motion, and as I indicated, it came at a time when it was extremely difficult for us to keep a quorum in the room, at that time. The other Bill had a 'do not pass' Motion. There was a quorum present voting on that other Bill. I... I'm simply trying to accommodate the Sponsor, who happened to be there at a time when Committee Members were going off in a number of different directions. It does not set up a 32 41st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1983 new agency. It renames an agency that is already in existence, and expands slightly the authority for the kinds of programs that would be held there."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Johnson could we proceed the Roll Call on the question? There's been adequate debate and the question is, 'Shall Representative Younge's Motion to discharge the Committee on Higher Education be adopted?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'no'. The Chair recognizes Mr. McGann to explain his vote."

McGann

"Yes. Mr. Speaker, I would just like to make this comment. I'm a Member of Higher Education. I voted against this Bill in Committee, because I felt as though we were not following procedure, that this belongs in a procedural area with the Board of Higher Education, and the naming of the new center belongs with the Southern Illinois University. But I've been trying to work out some sort of a Resolution with Representative Younge; and therefore, in the meantime, I would appreciate having this moved from the table; therefore, I'm voting 'aye'."

Speaker Madigan

"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall... Representative Laurino is seeking someone's attention, so he can be voted. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question... have we taken the record, Mr. Clerk? On this question, there are 56 'ayes', and 42 'nos', and this Motion fails. The Chair recognizes Representative Deuchler."

Deuchler

"Speaker. Mr. Speaker, point of personal privilege. I would like to introduce a large group from my district, from Big Rock Elementary Grade School and their teachers."

Speaker Madigan

"On the Supplemental Calendar, there appears House Bill 2224. Representative Currie."

Currie

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House 33 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983 Bill 2224 did not have an opportunity to be heard in House Executive Committee, and I would appreciate support for my Motion to discharge that Committee, so the full House can hear this Bill. The Bill, itself, provides for the... Patronage Decree to apply throughout the State of Illinois, instead of only to those governments in the northern district. The prospect of permitting political hirings and firings to go OD in Illinois State Government, in other municipalities, in towns and villages across the state, is, I think, really a purely unactractive one, certainly one, that I think, no other Member of this House would want to support. The... Bill of Decree, as I say, applies only in the northern districts, does apply to the State of Illinois in the northern district and to other local governments in that region, but I don't think E want to support one region that is patronage free. I think the Members of this General Assembly would certainly want to make sure that the provisions of that ruling apply to the full State of Illinois, to Governor Thompson and all of his agencies, as they do apply under that decree to governments in the northern part of the state. I would appreciate your support for this Motion to discharge House Bill 2224 from the Executive Committee, so it can be given the full and adequate consideration it deserves by all the Members of this House."

Speaker Madigan

"The Lady moves to discharge House Bill 2224 from the Committee on Executive. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye, all those opposed 'no". The 'nos' have it。 The Motion fails. For what purpose does Mr. Bowman seek recognition?"

Bowman

"Mr. Speaker, I would just like to point out the practical effect of what you just did. The Lady to my right, who made the Motion, is an Ethel Parker Award 34 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983 Winner of the independent voters of Illinois Independent Precinct Organization, and... and what we need here is Roll Call, Mr. Speaker, so everybody can be recorded, and so she can once again be an 'Ethel Parker Award Winner.' I might add that I tied with her for that privilege, and I would like to be an 'Ethel Parker Award Winner' too."

Speaker Madigan

"I think she failed to read the newspapers, to hear of the change in position up in the City. Mr. Clerk, would you read the list of requests for Interim Study. The Chair would like to explain to the Membership, if I could have your attention for just... for a few moments. Could I have the attention of the Membership. During the last few days, several Members have requested recognition to place Bills on the Order of Interim Study. We have provided a procedure where a Member can file a form with the Clerk. Those Bill numbers are then placed on a list. The Clerk will now read the Bill numbers that are on that list, and then we will take one Motion for Interim Study. So Mr. Clerk, if you would proceed to read the Bill numbers of the Bills, which are proposed to be placed on the Order of Interim Study."

O'Brien

"Motion. The following principle Sponsors request the following House Bills to be committed to Interim Study, suspending Rule... House Rule 27(b). House Bill 4, Levin; 14, O'Connell; 23, Dwight Friedrich; 65, Terzich; 92, Terzich; 101, Levin; 102, Birkinbine; 173, Johnson; 177, Johnson; 181, Henry; 182, Henry; 185, Henry; 212, Johnson; 214, Ralph Dunn; 217, Henry; 229, Terzich; 251, Birkinbine; 253, Levin; 303, Johnson; 304, Johnson; 306, Johnson; 310, Henry; 371, Johnson; 389, Hallock; 405, Greiman; 407, Greiman; 431, Henry; 432, Henry; 493, Birkinbine; 521, Saltsman; 527, Greiman; 658, McCracken; 660, Bowman; 679, Yourell; 752, Tuerk; 759, Wojcik; 809, Greiman; 837, Ralph 35 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983 Dunn; 871, Bowman; 876, Levin; 877, Levin: 878, Levin; 962, Greiman; 973, Ropp; 989, Birkinbine; 990, Birkinbine; 991, Birkinbine; 992, Birkinbine; 993, Birkinbine; 1030, Taylor; 1058, Tuerk; 1060, Reilly; 1069, Stec2o; 1125, Hallock; 1243, Stuffle; 1256, Stuffle; 1279, Deuchler: 1350, Dwight Friedrich; 1366, Ralph Dunn; 1375, Saltsman; 1469, DiPrima; 1510, Rea; 1511, Rea; 1512, Rea; 1513, Rea; 1514, Rea; 1515, Bea; 1533, Krska; 1541, Levin; 1543, Ralph Dunn; 1575, Churchill; 1608, Zwick; 1640, Hallock: 1697, Ropp; 1700, Currie; 1720, Levin; 1727, Levin; 1728, Levin; 1732, Levin; 1741, Levin; 1742, Levin; 1743, Levin; 1744, Levin; 1749, Levin; 1752, Didrickson; 1783, Krska: 1785, Krska; 1809, Levin; 1816, Levin: 1833, Mays; 1840, Koehler; 1867, Harris; 1874, McCracken; 1875, Kirkland; 1893, Zwick; 1895, Zwick; 1896, Koehler; 1900, Barger; 1909, Virginia Frederick; 1910, Harris; 1926, Kirkland; 1961, W. Peterson; 1964, Harris; 2011, Levin 2016, Greiman; 2018, Greiman; 2020, Greiman; 2049, Johnson; 2051, Ewing; 2119, Hensel; 2125, Didrickson; 2168, Alexander; 2174, Cowlishaw; 2175, Pullen; 2195, Giorgi: 2196, Giorgi 2211, Greiman; 2247, Hallock; 2255, Hallock: 2259, Mulcahey. House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #11, Birkinbine. And House Bills 22, 24, Barbara Plynn Currie. House Bill 63, Keane."

Speaker Madigan

"The Clerk has just read the Bill numbers of those Bills which we purpose to place on the Order of the Interim Study Calendar. Is there leave? Leave is granted. Those Bills shall be placed on the Order of the Interim Study Calendar. Mr. Vinson."

Vinson

"Mr. Speaker, I move to discharge the Committee on Public Utilities from further consideration of House Bill 1946."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Vinson has moved to discharge the Committee on Public Utilities from further consideration of House 36 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983 Bill 1946. On that Motion, the Chair recognizes the Chairman of the Utilities Committee, Mr. Brummer."

Brummer

"Would you restate the Motion?"

Speaker Madigan

"Yes. The Motion is that the Committee on Public Utilities be discharges from further consideration of House Bill 1946."

Brummer

"Whose Bill is it? Who made the Motion?"

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Vinson has offered the Motion."

Brummer

"Where does the... is it his Bill?"

Speaker Madigan

"Are you addressing a question to the Clerk? Mr. Clerk, would you tell the Body who is the Sponsor of the Bill?"

O'Brien

"Representative Wait."

Speaker Madigan

"Representative Wait. Mr. Wait indicates the Motion is okay with him. Mr. Brummer."

Brummer

"Is this... is this Motion on the Calendar?"

Speaker Madigan

"No."

Brummer

"How many... is this... is the Motion in order without being printed on the Calendar?"

Speaker Madigan

"I believe it would require 71 votes to suspend the Calendar requirements. There's a request for leave, Mr. Brummer."

Brummer

"Well, I object until... until further notice."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Brummer, we are all awaiting your decision. Mr. Vinson withdraws his Motion. The Chair is prepared to adjourn. Agreed Resolutions."

O'Brien

"House Resolution 232, Keane. 234, DiPrima. 235, Shaw. 237, Ronan. 238, Ronan. 239, Ronan. 240, Ronan. 242, Johnson."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Giorgi."

Giorgi

"Mr. Speaker, Representative Keane's 232 congratulates Father John M. Kane; DiPrima's also congratulates Patrick DeMauro; Shaw's 235 wants federal funding for education... 37 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983 suggests it; Ronan's 237, 238, 239, 240 congratulates four for Alderman of Chicago who were elected, Jerry Orback, McLaughlin, Kotlarz and O'Connor; and 242 by Johnson announces a retirement. I move for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."

Speaker Madigan

"For what purpose does Mr. White seek recognition?"

White

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I move to suspend the appropriate rule..."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. White, could you hold that for one minutes?"

White

"Yes."

Speaker Madigan

"We are on the Order of the Agreed Resolutions, and Mr. Giorgi has moved for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', all those opposed by saying 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Mr. White."

White

"Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend the appropriate rule, so the Human Services Committee could meet on Wednesday morning at 11... May 11, at 11:00 a.m., on the floor of the House, so that we could hear some testimony, a testimony only pertaining to Day Care 1984."

Speaker Madigan

"Have you consulted with the Clerk of the House concerning the availability of the House floor at that time?"

White

"No I have not, but I talked with staff, and they said that it would be available."

Speaker Madigan

"Did you speak with Mr. LaFaille?"

White

"I think he has... well let me double check that."

Speaker Madigan

"Do you you plan to take testimony up until 12:00 o'clock?"

White

"No. It would be about 15 minutes from about 11:00 o'clock to by 11:20, between 11:30 max." 38 41st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1983

Speaker Madigan

"Okay. Have you spoken with the Minority Spokesman on the Committee?"

White

"Yes, I have. Yes, I have."

Speaker Madigan

"Fine. And so the Gentlemen requests leave to suspend the posting requirements for the purpose of a meeting of the Committee on Human Services next Wednesday, at 11:00 a.m. on the House floor. Is there a leave? Leave is granted."

White

"Thank you. Thank you."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Flinn. Mr. Monroe Flinn."

Flinn

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, some of the people didn't hear the announcement yesterday, I understand, that the legislator's golf tournament is scheduled for this Monday has been postponed for one week, because of the wet ground at the Old Crest Country Club, postponed for one week. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Madigan

"Representative Topinka, are you seeking recognition? The Chair would like to take this opportunity to wish a happy birthday to our esteemed Clerk, Mr. Jack O'Brien. How many years, Jack? Or don't you want to tell us? On the Order of Death Resolutions."

O'Brien

"House Resolution 236, LeFlore, with respect to the memory of Mary Keys Ducksworth; and House Resolution 233, Representative Brookins, with the respect to the memory of Lucille Ellison of Chicago."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Giorgi moves for the adoption of the Death Resolutions. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', all those opposed by saying 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Death Resolutions are adopted. General Resolutions."

O'Brien

"House Resolution 241, Satterthwaite, and House Resolution 243, Bowman."

Speaker Madigan

"Committee on Assignments. The Chair would like to remind the Members that when we return for Session on 39 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983 Tuesday, we shall be in full Session from noon until 7:30. And we have scheduled evening Sessions for all of next week, and the following two weeks. It is the intent of the Chair not to work beyond 8:00 at night. However, we will have a goodly number of Bills on the Calendar, and if we are to proceed to a consideration of all of those Bills, then we must begin Session on time. We must be in the chamber. And we must move as expeditiously as possible. So, if you would all be prepared for intense floor action for the next three weeks. Representative Topinka. Fine. The Motion is that we stand adjourn until Tuesday, at 12:00 noon. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye", all those opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. We stand adjourn."

O'Brien

"Committee Reports. Representative Giglio, Chairman of the Committee on Cities and Villages, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 5, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 2206 and 1888; 'do pass as amended House Bills 557, 1798 and 1803; 'do pass Short Debate House Bills 2097 and 2015; 'do pass as amended Short Debate House Bills 1020, 1751 and 1602; 'do pass Consent Calendar House Bills 1124, 2213, 2000, 1680 and 1595; 'Interim Study Calendar House Bills 1443, 1799, 1945 and 2247. Representative Steczo, Chairman of the Committee on Counties and Townships, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 5, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass as amended House Bill 840; 'do pass Short Debate House Bills 1311, 1599 and 1201; 'do pass as amended Short Debate House Bills 1667, 1598, 1486; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bill 2133, 1163, 1739, 2138 and 1448. Representative Mulcahey, Chairman of the Committee on Elementary and 40 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day. May 6, 1983 Secondary Education, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 5, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bill 2083. 'do pass as amended' House Bills 1105, 634 and 1178; 'do pass as amended Short Debate' House Bill 1503; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 1568, 1962, 1852, 1556, 2193 and 1701. Representative Hulcahey, Chairman of the Committee on Elementary and Secondary Education, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 4, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 1936, 2009, 844, 845 and 843; 'do pass as amended' House Bills 770, 1530 and 1262; 'do pass Short Debate' House Bill 1567; 'do pass as amended Short Debate' House Bill 1614; 'do pass Consent Calendar' House Bill 1584; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 1506, 739, 1440, 1529, 807 and 1656. Representative Taylor, Chairman of the Committee on Elections, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 4, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 856 and 1204; 'do pass as amended' House Bill 1485 and 2012; 'do pass Short Debate' House Bills 345; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bill 1005. Representative Van Duyne, Chairman of the Committee on Energy and Natural Resources, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 4, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 1527, 2106, 1632 and 1872; 'do pass as amended' House Bills 1714 and 2234; 'do pass Short Debate' House Bills 1525 and 1778; 'do pass as amended' Short Debate' House Bill 1830; 'do pass Consent Calendar' House Bill 1649. Representative Terzich, Chairman of the Committee on Executive, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 4, 1983, reported the same back 41 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day with the following recommendations: May 6, 1983 *do pass House Bills 1131, 1331 and 1334; 'do pass as amended House Bill 1861; *do pass Short Debate Calendar House Bills 556, 688, 842, 924, 1111, 1130, 1165, 1359, 1388, 1394, 1501, 1593, 1596 and 1613, 1651, 1652, 1829, 1871, 1933, 1939, 2100, 2105, 2108, 2110, 2111, 2144, 2221 and 2277; 'do pass as amended Short Debate House Bill 1333; 'do not pass House Bills 1327, 1364 and 1648; 'do pass Consent Calendar House Bills 1650 and 921; Interim Study Calendar House Bill 2024. Representative Terzich, Chairman of the Committee on Executives, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 5, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass House Bills 362, 703, 1253, 1389, 1404, 1560, 1612, 1685, 1923, 2010, 2169 and 2233; do pass as amended House Bills 1205 and 2269; do pass Short Debate Calendar' House Bills 502, 853, 1052, 1467, 1468, 1796, 1970, 1921, 1925, 1982, 2004, 2062, 2079, 2085 and 2244; 'do pass as amended Short Debate House Bills 1101, 1882, and 1972; 'do pass Consent Calendar' House Bills 1308, 1390, 1941, 2029, 2060; do pass as amended' 'do not pass as amended House Bill 1894; Interim Study Calendar House Bills 274, 1267, 1270, 1276, 1586, 1659, 1715, 1950, 1974, 2053, 2179 and 2240. Representative Jaffe, Chairman of the Committee on Judiciary, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 4, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bill 963; "do pass as amended House Bills 7... 1818, 765 and 1497; "do pass Short Debate House Bill 1943. Representative Farley, Chairman of the Committee on Labor and Commerce, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 4, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 1141, 1653, 1703, 42 41st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1983 1443, 1790, 1521, 1526, 2035, 1559, 1520 and 1001; 'do pass as amended' House Bills 554 and 1385; 'do pass Short Debate House Bills 1738 and 1750; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 971, 1302, 1645, 1646, 1647, 2210, 1929, 1241, 1475, 1621, 1737, 1826, 1896, 1304, 1476, 1229, 1713, 2037 and 707. Representative Huff, Chairman of the Committee Select Committee on Local Government, Local School District Reorganization, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 5, 1983, reported the same back with following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 1186 and 1255. Do pass as amended' House Bills 1187, 1189 and 1188; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 2278 and 1190. Representative Farley, Chairman of the Committee on Labor and Commerce, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 6, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 630, 881, 1607, 2172 and 2202; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 535, 1070, 1552, 1619, 1869, 2104 and 1954. Representative Brummer, Chairman of the Committee on Public Utilities, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 6, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass as amended' House Bill 1156; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bill 1768. Representative Domico, Chairman of the Committee on Registration and Regulation, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 4, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do not pass' House Bill 1540. Representative Pierce, Chairman of the Committee on Revenue, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 4, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 1434, 1584, 934, 941, 9 and 1762; 'do pass as amended' House Bills 1831, 1473, 1489, 1847, 959, 1772; 'do pass Short 43 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983 Debate House Bills 1261, 1329, 1400, 1838, 1470 and 1557; do pass as amended Short Debate House Bills 1709, 1351, 385; 'Interim Study Calendar House Bills 290, 540, 712, 1012, 1099, 1233, 1361, 1401, 1429, 1430, 1431, 1491, 1555, 1836, 1837, 2022, 2067, 2068, 1766 and 1265. Representative Pierce, Chairman of the Committee cn Revenue, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 5, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 1314, 1328, 1402, 1507 1561, 1562, 1563, 1564, 1579, 1594, 1712, 1781, 1755, 1883, 1897, 1948, 2092 2094, 2102, 2103, 2126, 2149; 'do pass as amended House Bills 60, 270, 474, 753, 864, 948, 1009, 1133, 1330, 1864 and 2002; 'do pass as amended Short Debate House Bill 391; 'do not pass House Bills 1758 and 2185; do pass' House Bills 2208, 2251, 2274 and 2282; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 53, 71, 113, 453, 1183, 1407, 1528, 1734, 1735, 1736, 1756, 1845, 1846, 2099, 2164, 2187, 2190, 2209, 2273 and 2181. Representative Younge, Chairman of the Select Committee on Urban Redevelopment, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 5, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendation: 'Interim Study Calendar House Bills 358, 365, 706, 1004, 1011, 1268, 1013, 1127, 1277, 1126, 2001, 1278, 1716 and 2039 and 583. The Kouse stands at ease awaiting further Committee Reports. Committee Reports. Representative Stuffle, Chairman of the Select Committee on Economic Recovery, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 6, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass as amended' House Bills 704, 1272, 1828 and 2290; 'Interim Study Calendar House Bills 2175, 105 and 1010. Representative Taylor, Chairman of the Committee on Elections, to which the following Bills vere 44 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day May 6, 1983 referred, action taken May 6, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass House Bills 2055, 2266, 1688, 1679, 1687, 1459, 1812, 1454, 1455, 1558, 1237, 1238, 1691, 1565, 1983, 1566, 1987, 2013, 1898, 1702, 1988, 2047, 719, 1991; 'do pass as amended House Bills 1989, 1984, 1985, 1997, 1990, 1992, 1994, 1986, 1206, 2014, 1203, 1460, 1453, 471, 2056, 1987 and 1236; 'do pass Short Debate' House Bill 1161; 'do pass as amended Short Debate' House Bill 751; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 1678, 1689, 1932. 'do pass' 1993, 1995, 1996, 1987 and 2228. Representative Van Duyne, Chairman from the Committee on Energy Environment and Natural Resources, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 6, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass as amended House Bills 1054, 1108, 1410 1257, 2040 and 2171; 'do pass Consent Calendar' House Bill 1355; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 762, 1234, 1360, 1377, 1609, 1911, 2183, 2215 and 2246. Representative White, Chairman from the Committee on Human Services, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 6, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bill 359, 1086, 1835 and 2031; 'do pass as amended House Bills 1644, 1661 and 1949; 'do pass Short Debate' House Bills 1708 and 1834; 'do pass as amended Short Debate' House Bill 952 and 492; 'do pass as amended Consent Calendar' House Bill 1285; 'do not pass' House Bill 1759. 'Tabled by Rule 26 (d), House Bill 1195; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 449, 598, 636, 602, 1087, 1097, 951, 1106, 1354, 1397, 1415, 1416, 1417, 1418, 1419, 1420, 1464, 1522, 1546, 1570, 1658, 1663, 1732, 1757, 2045, 2075, 2082, 2151, 2232, 1469 and 1299. Representative Jaffe, Chairman of the Committee on Judiciary, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 5, 1983, 45 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day reported the same back with the following May 6, 1983 recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 2023, 2242, 551, 272, 1466, 1382, 1383, 654, 666, 1149, 463, 174, 1859, 1914, 456 and 220; 'do pass as amended' House Bills 1157, 1853, 1239, 726, 343, 652, 657, 321, 940, 863, 1889, 289, 1849, 2136 and 572; 'do pass Short Debate' House Bills 1287, 689, 452, 1323 and 428; 'do pass as amended Short Debate' House Bills 516, 690, 250 and 1963; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 665, 1523, 549, 2163, 1384, 2281, 1197, 809, 1471, 1820, 1821, 1822, 2161, 1441, 1132, 526, 1458, 1488, 2132, 215, 216, 218, 219, 221, 1325, 2160, 8, 20, 38, 2, 298, 1706, 738 and 1015; 'do pass Consent Calendar' House Bill 176. Representative Jaffe, Chairman of the Committee on Judiciary, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 4, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass Short Debate' House Bills 133, 134, 135, 142, 144, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151, 153, 154, 155, 156, 157 and 165. Representative John Dunn, Chairman of the Committee on Transportation and Motor Vehicles, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 6, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 1306, 1676, 2072, 2231, 2276, 2285; 'do pass as amended' House Bills 1154 and 2287; 'do pass Short Debate' House Bill 1245, 1683, 1704, 1934, 2065, 2073, 2109 and 2283; 'do pass as amended Short Debate' House Bills 1665, 1978, 2284; 'do pass Consent Calendar' House Bill 1666; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 2114, 1965, 1913, 1640, 2057 2155, 1128, 1850, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1905, 1906, 1907, 1720, 1806, 19, excused me. 1809, 1810, 1811, 2049, 1524, 2211, 1362, 1940. No further business, the House adjourns." 46 08/01/83 09:40 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX PAGE 1 MAY 06, 1983 HB-0004 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0014 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0018 SECOND READING PAGE 15 HB-0018 HELD ON SECOND PAGE 21 HB-0018 RECALLED PAGE 12 HB-0022 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-0023 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0024 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-0063 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-0065 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0092 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0101 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0102 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0173 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0177 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0181 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0182 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0185 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0212 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0214 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0217 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0229 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0230 RECALLED PAGE 13 HB-0251 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0253 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0303 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0304 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0306 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0310 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0371 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0389 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0405 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0407 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0431 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0432 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0493 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0521 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0527 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0621 MOTION PAGE 4 HB-0658 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0660 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0679 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0720 MOTION PAGE 4 HB-0752 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0759 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0809 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0837 OTHER PAGE 35 HB-0871 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-0876 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-0877 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-0878 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-0962 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-0973 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-0989 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-0990 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-0991 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-0992 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-0993 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1030 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1058 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1060 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1069 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1125 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1243 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1256 OTHER PAGE 36 08/01/83 09:40 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX PAGE 2 MAY 06, 1983 HB-1279 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1288 MOTION PAGE 29 HB-1349 MOTION PAGE 22 HB-1350 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1366 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1375 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1399 MOTION PAGE 4 HB-1469 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1510 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1511 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1512 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1513 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1514 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1515 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1517 TABLED PAGE 3 HB-1518 TABLED PAGE 3 HB-1519 TABLED PAGE 3 HB-1533 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1541 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1543 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1575 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1608 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1640 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1697 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1700 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1720 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1727 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1728 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1732 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1741 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1742 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1743 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1744 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1749 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1752 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1783 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1785 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1809 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1816 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1833 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1840 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1867 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1874 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1875 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1893 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1895 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1896 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1900 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1908 MOTION PAGE 30 HB-1909 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1910 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1926 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1946 MOTION PAGE 36 HB-1961 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-1964 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-2011 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-2016 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-2018 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-2020 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-2049 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-2051 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-2119 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-2125 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-2168 OTHER PAGE 36 HB-2174 OTHER PAGE 36 08/01/83 09:40 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 06, 1983 HB-2175 OTHER HB-2177 MOTION HB-2195 OTHER HB-2196 OTHER HB-2211 OTHER HB-2224 MOTION HB-2247 OTHER HB-2255 OTHER HB-2259 OTHER *HJR-0011 OTHER SJR-0039 ADOPTED PAGE 3 PAGE 36 PAGE 31 PAGE 36 PAGE 36 PAGE 36 PAGE 33 PAGE 36 PAGE 36 PAGE 36 PAGE 36 PAGE 2 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER - SPEAKER MADIGAN PAGE 1 PRAYER - REVEREND TERRY REBERT PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 2 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 37 DEATH RESOLUTIONS PAGE 39 GENERAL RESOLUTIONS PAGE 39 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 40 PERFUNCTORY SESSION PAGE 40 COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 40 PERFUNCTORY SESSION - ADJOURNMENT PAGE 46