Illinois House Floor Debate — June 13, 1984

"The House will come to order. Members will be in their chairs. The Chaplain for today will be the Reverend Wayne Meyer, Pastor of First Christian Church of Watseka. Reverend Heyer is a guest of Representative Chuck Pangle. Will the guests in the balcony please rise and join us in the invocation?"

"Oh God, we stand in reverence before You with our heads bowed, and by this physical act we declare that You are involved in the destiny of humankind. We realize we are privileged to live in the United States of America and proud to live in Illinois. By fate, hard work or luck, we are in this  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 Representative Neff is excused because of illness."

"Yes. Thank you. Messages from the Senate."

"No messages from the Senate."

"Committee Reports." Clerk O'Brien; "Representative Leverenz, Chairman of the Committee on Appropriations I, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken June 12, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: Do pass as amended Senate Bills 1549, 1552, 1556 and 1565. Representative Bowman, Chairman of the Committee on Appropriations II, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken June 12, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: Do pass Senate Bills 1573, 1591, 1593, 1594, 1599 and 1654; do pass as amended Senate Bills 1590, 1592 and Senate Bill 1600. No further Committee Reports."

"Approval of the Journal, Representative Greiman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would move that we dispense with the reading of the Journal, and that Journals numbered 69-113 inclusive be approved as read."

"The Gentleman moves to dispense with the reading of the Journals, and that Journals 69 through 113 be approved as read. And on that, the Gentleman from Marion, Representative Friedrich."

"Would you... I would yield to Representative Vinson at this point."

"The Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the maker of the Motion yield for a question?"

"Yes, he indicates he will."

"Representative, can you tell me roughly what dates those 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day Journals cover?" June 13, 1984

"I can't, but the Clerk can provide that for us."

"Mr. Clerk."

"June 23, 1983 through May 3, 1984."

"Okay. Mr. Clerk, can you tell me if the Committee established by the Speaker to review the Journals has approved those Journals?"

"Representative Greiman."

"Well, it's my understanding that copies of the Journals were provided to you, Mr. Vinson and to Mr. Friedrich, your Conference Chairman. And that you... There was a request that there be notations made if there were objections to them and none have been given to the Clerk. Is that... Is that correct understanding? This was several, I guess, two or three weeks ago. Is that correct?"

"It was my understanding that a number of corrections had been made as a result of the review."

"Well, it's our understanding that perhaps they were, but they were made in the solitude of, perhaps, your own office and not communicated to the Clerk. We don't have a divining stick to know what those were. If you... Now I would certainly be more than happy to, if you want, to take this out of the record if you have some that you can give us and the Clerk can look at them. That's perfectly alright, but we have not... The Clerk advises me that we have not received any notations, corrections or additions to the Journal."

"Mr. Speaker, I wonder if we could take this out of the record for a few minutes then, at least, please."

"Certainly. Out of the record. Representative Vinson."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I would be prepared to go ahead with Mr. Greiman's Motion at this point if the Chair would so 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day desire." June 13, 1984

"Thank you. Then, Representative Greiman, would Greiman: you renew your Motion?" "Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would mave that ve dispense with the reading of the Journal and that Journals numbered 69 through 113 inclusive be approved as read.."

"You have heard the Motion to dispense with the reading of the Journal, to approve Journals 69 through 113 as read. Is there any objection to using the Attendance Roll Call? Representative Friedrich."

"Mr. Speaker, I don't object to using the Attendance Roll Call. I would like to make a couple of comments. One is that, as a Member of this Committee, we... we have not met. I think it's... it's unfortunate that we accumulate this many Journals without approval. There were a number of errors that were made in the Journal as you have it printed. In fairness, the Clerk has made some corrections, but some of those were rather wild things in the first Journal in that whole Conference Committee Reports were left out and other things. So if you'd been reading the Journal, it was not accurate. Our... The Clerk of the House has been diligent in trying to correct these. One of the most flagrant one was, and in fairness I can't honestly blame this onto the Clerk, was the House Committee on Energy, Environment and Natural Resources where a Resolution which is on the Calendar now was voted out by a voice vote, and we have a Motion to put that back in Committee So it can be handled in a proper manner. But I think the Journal which is a final record, and once you approve it as you know the courts have sustained that that's what happened regardless of what else was said. So I think this is a very important function, and I would hope that we would have more frequent meetings and that we would 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 not have to approve this many Journals at one time. But I... We will be pressing the Notion to put House Resolution 564 back in Committee, even though the... And in fairness to the Clerk, the Committee Clerk was the one in error, but... and the Clerk of the House had no jurisdiction over that part, so I don't want to blame him for that."

"Representative Matijevich."

"Mr. Chairman... Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I... to set the record straight, having been the Chairman of that Committee, I would hope that Representative Friedrich would go back to that Resolution that created that Committee. I've served in the Legislature as Chairman of Committee and have always, always lived up to my responsibilities. The intent of that Committee was never to be a Committee to approve Journals. So if you're expecting me to call a Committee to approve Journals, forget it. That was not the intent of the Committee. I have always taken my responsibilities religiously and will continue to every responsibility I have. You had better go look at that Resolution. That wasn't the business of our Committee."

"You have heard the Motion. All those in favor of the Motion signify by saying "aye", opposed "no". The 'ayes have it, and the Motion carries. On page nine of the Calendar, Consent Calendar Second Reading, Second Day. Read the Bills, dr. Clerk."

"Consent Calendar Second Beading, Second Day. Senate Bill 1381, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning the Chain 0 Lakes - Fox River Waterways. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1456, a Bill for an Act in relation to the computation of the principal and interest payments on certain bonds. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1457, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 in relation to state monies. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1518, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to regulate solicitation and collection of funds for charitable purposes. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1602, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1655, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to law enforcement agencies concerning lost, missing and runaway children. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1659, a Bill for an Act to authorize municipalities, counties and townships to appropriate funds to private nonprofit organizations servicing runaway youths. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1801, a Bill for an Act to provide for the use of gas transmission facilities for private energy entities together with Committee Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1862, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1938, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1944, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the labeling of equipment and facilities concerning hazardous waste materials. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1953, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Hazardous Material Railroad Transportation Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1954, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill."

"Third Reading. Representative Breslin in the Chair."

"Agreed Resolutions."

"House Resolution 1039, Madigan McGann and Keane; House Resolution 1040, Byder; 1041, McNamara; 1042, Barger. And House Joint Resolution 161, DiPrima et al." 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"Representative Matijevich."

"Madam Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Resolution 1039, Madigan, congratulates Margaret Halpin on her 90th birthday; House Resolution 1040, Ryder, commends the people of Barry; House Resolution 1041, McNamara, congratulates Lawrence and Pauline Buckley on their 50th wedding anniversary: House Resolution 1042, Barger, extends... congratulations on the 50th wedding anniversary to Mr. and Mrs. Grebe; House Resolution... House Joint Resolution 161, DiPrima, congratulates Mr. and Mrs. Guy Ranallo on their 50th wedding anniversary. And I understand, Mr. Speaker or Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Resolution 1035 was taken off the agreed yesterday, Woodyard - Stuffle, asking Congress to keep the post office in Vermilion, Illinois open, and I would ask leave and the Attendance Roll Call that House Joint Resolution (sic - House Resolution) 1035 be discharged from the Committee on Assignment for the immediate consideration and adoption on the Agreed Resolution list."

"You have heard the Gentleman's Motion. Is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the Gentleman asks leave to include House Bill... Resolution... House Resolution 1035 in this group. The Gentleman... Hearing no objection, the Gentleman has leave to use the Attendance Roll Call for that purpose. And on the Motion to accept the House Resolutions as read, all those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Resolutions are adopted. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading, Short Debate Calendar, on page three of your Calendar, we will begin at the beginning and take all of these Bills. First appearing on that Calendar is Senate Bill 835, 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 Representative McGann. Ladies and Gentlemen, we are on the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading, Short Debate Calendar. Senate Bill 835, Representative McGann. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 835, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. Second Reading of the Bill."

"Representative McGann."

"Amendment #1 was adopted previously last year. This year erroneously another Amendment #1 was adopted."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"Representative Oblinger moves to table Amendment #1 which was adopted last year."

"The Lady moves to table Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 835 that was adopted last year, the previous year of this Session. All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and Amendment #1 of the previous year is tabled. Are there any further Motions or Amendments?"

"A Motion by Representative McGann to table Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 835 which was adopted this year in Committee."

"Representative McGann moves to table Amendment #1 adopted this year to Senate Bill 835. All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. Representative Piel, for what reason do you rise?"

"I was just wondering if the Gentleman could explain to us what exactly the Amendment is doing that he's taking off. Is he the Sponsor of the Amendment? Why don't we slow things down a little bit?"

"Representative McGann is the Sponsor of this Amendment. Yes."

"Then would the Sponsor explain to us what he's doing, what the Amendment does that he's taking off?" 8  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 13, 1984

"Okay. I understand, Representative Piel, that he is going to take this Amendment off and then proceed with an Amendment that is properly drafted. that correct, Representative McGann?"

"Thank you."

"That is correct, Madam Speaker."

Is that... Is Speaker Breslin: "Very good. All those in favor say 'aye', in favor of the tabling Motion. All those in favor say 'aye", all those opposed say nay. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and Amendment #1 adopted this year to Senate Bill 835 is tabled. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, by Representative Oblinger."

"Representative Piel, for what reason do you rise?"

"Madam Speaker, according to our records, we have not received Amendment #2 or Amendment #3."

"The Clerk indicates that Amendment #2 has not been circulated. Is that correct? I see. Very good. I understand that Mrs. Oblinger plans to withdraw Amendment #2 anyway. Does the Lady have leave to withdraw Amendment #2? And the Lady has leave. Amendment #3 has been printed and distributed, Representative Piel."

"We don't have it."

"Read Amendment #3, please, Mr. Clerk. And would somebody provide Representative Piel with Amendment #3? Yes, we withdrew #2. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, McGann, amends Senate Bill 835 as amended by deleting the title and inserting in lieu thereof the following: An Act to amend Section 19.9(a) of the Revenue Act of 1939."

"Representative McGann."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the Assembly. 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 835 actually becomes the Bill itself. It's contents and purpose is to certify, as far as real property is concerned, with the Federal Government and the State Government as to their tax ability. That's all the Bill does. It comes from court decisions between the United States and Cook County, and it's a resolution now that we should be taxing some of the federal properties where the Federal Government states that we should be taxing such property. Therefore, we are looking into millions of dollars of revenue for localities as a result of this Bill, and I would move its adoption."

"The Gentleman moves the adoption of Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 835. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."

"Yes, will the Sponsor yield for a question?"

"The Gentleman will yield for a question."

"Representative McGann, do I understand then that the Bill as originally filed dealt with exempting from taxation certain housing projects owned by not-profit... not-for-profit housing corporations? Is that still in the Bill?"

"No, it is not, Representative Cullerton."

"Fine. Thank you."

"Is there any further discussion? There being no further discussion, the question is... The Lady from Sangamon, Representative Oblinger. Excuse me."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor respond to a question?"

"The Gentleman will yield to a question."

"Thank you. Representative McGann, the reason, as you know and I explained to you and I think the rest of the Members should know here, is that we have a number of housing projects under Section 202... 202 Section 8 that 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 HUD is no longer granting money, and I... a lot of you have come to me on this. I don't know whether you're going to pay any attention or not, but don't ask me this question again then. You've all asked me why there are some housing projects that are tax exempt and some are not, and that's because we don't have uniform rule here in the State of Illinois and each county decides whether they're going to tax it or not. HUD has now made a statement. There will be no more 202 Section 8 housing unless that locality exempts it from taxation and substitutes for it a service charge. This is what we were trying to get at. I might indicate for those who are present the reason this was objected to came out of the City of Chicago, and they said something I can't quite understand. They said, "Oh, we'd lose too much money'. And I said, "How was that?" They said, "Well, we handle it our own way'. What they do, they take the amount of money that the people pay for rent, which is one-fourth of the charges at that place, and they tax that building on that one-fourth. I assure you that the assessors are not supposed to do this. So some places are getting around it by just ignoring it. Some places have substituted their own thing, and I think that we should have kept that Amendment in. I hope you will vote 'no' on Amendment #3."

"Is there any further discussion? There being no further discussion, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative McGann, to close."

"Representative Oblinger asked a question, but she did not finish the question; and, therefore, I don't know what the total context was. But from what I observe from it, Representative Oblinger, the problem with the original Bill was that the Revenue... the House Revenue Committee felt as though that there was some unconstitutionality to it; and, 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 therefore, it could not be worked out. In the meantime, we have gutted that Bill, and we put Amendment #3 on the Bill in order to bring out another more important or equally important, whatever way you look at it issue and that is the issue in regards to the United States Government's liability for taxes in certain counties in the State of Illinois. And this came from a Federal Court decision which... which they consent and state that they should be paying real estate taxes on certain properties. Therefore, we are going to have a little short windfall here for the residents of the State of Illinois inasmuch as we will be taxing some of these federal properties. This is a good Bill. It's a good Amendment which is the Bill, and I would appreciate an affirmative vote because this is one area where tax dollars will be coming in and helping all of our constituents. Thank you."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of... or adoption of Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 835. All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. The Clerk will take the record. On this Amendment, there are 62 voting 'aye'... 61 voting 'aye', 35 voting 'no' and none voting 'present', and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Leave... Does the Gentleman have leave to keep this Bill on the Order of Short Debate? Hearing no objections, the Gentleman has leave. Excuse me, Representative Piel objects, Representative McGann. Senate Bill 626, Representative Currie. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1179, Representative Jaffe or Representative White. I'm sorry. Inadvertently, I went to the wrong page on the Calendar in Second Reading. We should be on Senate Bill 1374, Representative Curran. Out of the record. 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 Senate Bill 1384, Representative Hastert. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1830... 1384, a Bill for an Act in relation to State Property Tax Appeal Board. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Ewing, amends Senate Bill 1384 by deleting the title and inserting in lieu thereof the following: An Act in relation to the property taxes and the State Property Tax Appeal Board."

"Representative Ewing has the Amendment, Representative Hastert. What is your pleasure since the Gentleman is not here?"

"I'll take it out of the record."

"Okay. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1385, Representative Matijevich. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1385, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Income Tax Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Currie - Greiman, amends Senate Bill 1385 on page four, line 22 by deleting 'and' and inserting in lieu thereof and so forth."

"Representative Currie, on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. Senate Bill 1385 proposes to decouple the State of Illinois from certain changes in the Federal Tax Law. The Amendment that I offer, Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 1385, does precisely the same thing with respect to certain other tax changes at the federal level. I think that it's important for this state to make independent decisions about tax benefits, advantages, increases and decreases, and I urge adoption of Amendment #1. I'm happy to answer any 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 questions."

"The Lady has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1385. And on that question, the Gentleman from Lake, Representative Matijevich."

"Yes, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, the Sponsor of Amendment #1 spoke very quickly and really didn't tell you exactly what she was trying to do with this Bill. It's a decoupling Amendment - an issue very controversial that has never to my knowledge come out of the Senate Revenue Committee where they've had some pretty long discussions on this issue. She... I'm sort of ambivalent about her Amendment because I have always been supportive of trying to decoupling where we... In Congress they've given tax breaks to business, but that has hurt us revenue-wise in the State of Illinois. But my... The Senate Bill that I have here as a Sponsor is trying to exempt the retirement income benefits from state taxation, and I don't think that we should support her Amendment which is highly controversial and jeopardize this good Bill. If this were an agreed Amendment, it would be different. I would be totally supportive. So I hope we have a lot... a lot of loud 'nos' on her Amendment."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Greiman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker... Madam Speaker. I rise in support of this Amendment. Over the years people who are experts in revenue, if there are such things, have said that the best kind of state legislation you can have is a state income tax which follows the federal income tax, so that you can look at one bottom line in a federal return and you can put that over on the state return, and bingo, you've got yourself a... some income to tax. But we changed that. We changed that in Illinois in terms of 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 capital gains. We changed that last year in terms of... of our state income... of our state real estate tax so that if you take... you are a property tax owner and have a home, you take that off your state income tax. So we no longer ride along with the federal adjusted gross income. Once we have changed that - once we change the formula then it follows that we are... we are on a roll. We need not look at the same way slavishly. We need not be slaves to the Federal Internal Revenue Service; that we can make our own destiny in terms of how we tax. Accordingly, this would merely bring us back to where we were before the 1981 Economic Recovery Tax Act, so called. That was a great benefit for a lot of wealthy people. And I'm not against benefits for wealthy people. I just like to see them spread out a little bit. And accordingly, I think this decoupling would provide us with the kind of revenue that we are searching for, the kind of revenue necessary to fund our schools, the kind of revenue necessary to fund all the foibles that... that people are throwing in here in these last days. This is where the money will come from - not a new tax on your... on your constituents, not voting for a tax, but merely a decoupling. Accordingly, I would ask that you vote 'aye' on this very important and significant piece of legislation."

"There being no further discussion, the Lady from Cook, Representative Currie, to close."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. I think the issue is clearly defined. I would just like to remind the Members of this chamber that in addition to the priorities we all place on issues like education for our children in the state and Representative Greiman's point about the additional dollars that this small change, not a tax increase, but a small change in our tax laws would 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 enable us to spend in this coming fiscal year, this Amendment would bring us into compliance with the actions of our neighbor states. We're always talking about how Illinois compares with Indiana, Iowa, Ohio, Minnesota, Wisconsin. Each of those states has made changes either to decouple or to change the corporate tax rate in their state in response to the federal actions in 1981. We could bring Illinois into conformity with our neighbors, in effect, make our state as competitive with respect to business as all of our neighbor states, and we could do a job for the children of the state if we adopt Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 1385. I ask for your affirmative votes."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1385 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 12 voting 'aye', 75 voting 'no' and 3 voting 'present', and the Amendment fails. Representative... Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Pierce - Virginia Frederick, amends Senate Bill 1385 on page two, in line 26 and so forth."

"Representative Pierce."

"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment #2 is the same as House Bill 1734 as amended which passed out of this House earlier only to meet its demise in the Senate Rules Committee - the notorious Senate Rules Committee. House Bill 1734 as amended by Representative Friedrich and myself cured incongruity in our law by allowing pension payments to a partner or a deceased partner's survivor from being exempt on the Illinois income tax. We all know that under Keough plans the pension is exempt, under HR 10 pension is exempt, but 16  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 13, 1984 the... prior to the Keough plans there are some older partnership pension plans that are not exempt under Illinois law. The Department of Revenue has no objection to this. Corporate pension plans are exempt, and this just makes sure that the older partners, whose partnership agreements were drawn up prior to the HR 10 - Keough... era, will have the same exemption under pension payments under Illinois income tax as those more recently retired partners who have the benefit Kecugh plans. And I, therefore, move the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1385, and perhaps Representative Frederick wants to close. I don't know."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1385. And on that question, the Gentleman from Lake, Representative Matijevich."

"Yes, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment #2 is far different from Amendment #1, and I rise in support of it. Representative Pierce is trying to clear up a problem in the Illinois law where the... there is the only bit of retirement income that is taxed, and we're trying to remove that from the law. Inadvertently, I believe, the Senate Rules Committee didn't put his Bill, exempt his Bill out of Rules, and they have mended their ways, I understand now, by... by amending the Social Security Bill over there which is my Bill and including his Bill onto that Bill through Amendment. And I would, therefore, feel that it is proper that this Bill also be amended and rise in support of it."

"The Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."

"Yes, Madam Speaker, would the Sponsor yield for a question?"

"Representative Pierce will yield for a 17  133rd Legislative Day question." Vinson: STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 13, 1984 "Representative, as I read and understand the Amendment, it exempts certain retirement income from Illinois income taxation. Is that correct?"

"That's right. Retirement income, as you know, under the Keough plan - HR 10 - your retirement income is exempt from federal and state. These effect retirement of accounting CPA partners and other partners. It was actually a CPA, retired CPA, that brought it to Representative Frederick's attention and my own that under the Illinois Income Tax Act, they fall between the cracks if they retired... if their plans were drawn up prior to Keough. Their... Their pension... retirement payments are subject to Illinois income tax, and they're, therefore, on a different footing than the more recently retired partners who have the benefit of the Keough plan."

"So Keough income is currently exempt..." Pierce:

"Right." "...and this would exempt people who have the same thing as Keough plans but the plans were not qualified under the Keough provisions."

"Yeah, maybe even Keough didn't exist when they're plans were drawn 10, 15 years ago."

"Mr... Madam Speaker, to the Bill. I would rise in support of the Amendment. I think it's a fine Amendment."

"Is there any further discussion? There being no further discussion, Representative Pierce or Representative Frederick, to close. Representative Frederick."

"Madam Speaker... Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I simply would just ask for 'aye' vote."

"The question is, Shall Amendment #2 to Senate 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 Bill 1385 be adopted?" All those in favor say aye, all those opposed say 'nay". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments.

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1399, Representative Klemm. Clerk... Excuse me. On Senate Bill 1385, does the Gentleman have leave to keep that Bill on the Order of Short Debate? Hearing no objection, the Gentleman has leave, and the Bill remains on the Order of Short Debate. On Senate Bill 1399, Representative Klemm. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1399, a Bill for an Act authorizing the McHenry County Conservation District to convey certain real property in exchange for certain other real property. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted previously."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Amendment #2 was withdrawn previously. Floor Amendment #3, Hallock, amends Senate Bill 1399 as amended."

"Representative Hallock."

"Yes, this may interest you, Madam Speaker. I would ask leave to withdraw Amendment #3."

"The Gentleman asks leave to withdraw Amendment #3. Hearing no objections, the Gentleman has leave. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1401, Representative Stuffle - Matijevich. Clerk, read the Bill. Excuse... There is no need to ask leave for Short Debate on your Bill, Representative Klemm, because there were no 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 Amendments added. Just to clear up the record, does the Gentleman have leave to keep Senate Bill 1399 on the Order of Short Debate. Hearing no objections, the Gentleman has leave. Now on Senate Bill 1401, Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1401, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act to regulate the practice of podiatry in the State of Illinois. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None.."

"Third Reading. Representative Steczo. Excuse Senate Bill 1425, ше. Representative Matijevich, for what reason do you rise?"

"Madam Speaker, we moved 1385 to Third it Reading, and was amended. Could I have leave that that remain on Short Debate?"

"We did ask for leave, and it was granted, Representative. Representative Steczo. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1462, Representative Ewing. Representative Ewing. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1462, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Revenue Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Representative Ewing, there is a request for a state mandates note on this Bill. The Bill can, therefore, not be moved. Representative Ewing."

"Madam Speaker, the Bill is, as amended, indicates that the state exempts the State Mandates Act, so I don't think that request is proper or timely."

"Representative Cullerton, on the question."

"I would ask leave to withdraw that request." 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

June 13, 1984 "Representative Cullerton withdraws his request for the State Mandates Act; therefore, the Bill can be moved and will be moved to Third Reading. Senate Bill 1462 moves to Third Reading. Senate Bill 1519, Representative Olson. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1519, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act to regulate solicitation and collection of funds for charitable purposes, providing for violations thereof. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1618, Representative Oblinger. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1618, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Wildlife Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Hallock, amends Senate Bill 1618 on page one by deleting line one and two and so forth."

"Representative Hallock. Clerk... Representative Hallock on the Amendment."

"I would ask leave to withdraw this Amendment, please."

"The Gentleman asks to withdraw Amendment #2. Hearing no objection, the Amendment is withdrawn. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. With leave of the House, I 21  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 13, 1984 would like to go back to Senate Bill 1384, since Representative Ewing has returned to the floor. Senate Bill 1384. Clerk, read the Bill. Excuse me. Representative Cullerton objects to going to that Bill at this time. Senate Bill 1781, Representative Markette and Alexander. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1791, Representative Keane. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1791, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Income Tax Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1870, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1870, a Bill for an Act to release highway easements and to restore access rights to certain described lands. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Motions..."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions and no Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1876, Representative Vinson. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1876, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois and the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Hallock, amends Senate Bill 1876..." 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984

"Out of the record. Senate Bill 1878, Representative Ropp. Representative Bopp. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1878, a Bill for an Act to create the Child Support Enforcement Trust Fund. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No... No Floor Amendments."

"Representative Cullerton, for what reason do you rise?"

"I wonder if the Sponsor could hold the Bill for a few minutes so we can see if there's a need... I believe there might be a need for a technical Amendment, and we're just checking it out right now, if the Sponsor could just hold it for a few minutes."

"The Gentleman agrees. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1881, Representative Hensel. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1881, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Purchasing Act."

"Representative Hensel, for what reason do you rise?"

"Madam Speaker, could we take this out of the record?"

"Out of the record. Senate Bill 1887, Representative Nash - Fiel. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1911, Representative Rower. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1911..."

"Out of the record. Senate Bill 1928, Representative McCracken. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1928, a Bill for an Act in relation to indemnification of certain public employees in certain civil lawsuits. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1 and 2 were adopted in Committee." 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1929, Representative McCracken. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1929, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Uniform Disposition of Unclaimed Property Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, McCracken, amends Senate Bill 1929 on page one in line one and so forth."

"Representative McCracken."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1929 provides that where certain assets subject to abandonment and retention by the Department of Financial Institutions provide for the possibility of extensions, and by that I mean where a maturity date of those instruments can be extended pursuant to contract, that the presumption of abandonment would not begin until the end of that renewal period. And I move for the favorable adoption of Amendment #1."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1929. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."

"Yes, would the Sponsor yield?"

"The Gentleman will yield for a question."

"Representative McCracken, I wonder if you could explain this Amendment in a little bit greater detail by, perhaps, giving me an example of how... how this would work. Now..."

"Yes, I'd be happy to." 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984

"...I'm not sure exactly what it covers. Does it cover passbook, or checking accounts or just what... If you could give me a typical example of how you think it would work, I'd appreciate it."

"Well, if a deposit is made for a period of 90 days..."

"...in a passbook deposit or checking?"

"No, no, no."

"What kind of a deposit? Savings account?"

"I don't know how to give you the precise... Let me look at the Amendment."

"I didn't mean to force you to actually read the Amendment. I apologize."

"This is terrible I had to read it. What I... What I have here is that in any type of instrument subject to the abandonment rules, where they provide for an extension, that the abandonment period doesn't begin until the extension period has expired. Now whether it applies to passbooks, the Amendment states, 'Notwithstanding any other provision of this Section, no deposit except passbook, checking, NOW accounts, Super NOW, money market accounts or such similar accounts held by the banking and financial organization shall be presumed abandoned if... with respect to such a deposit which specifies a definite maturity date. The organization was authorized to extend or roll over the account. So, yes, to those types of accounts which specify the authority to roll them over that abandonment period would not begin until the expiration thereof. That would apply to passbook, checking, NOW accounts, Super NOW accounts."

"What is the purpose of the Amendment?"

"To accommodate time deposit type instruments currently being issued by financial institutions." 25  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 13, 1984

"Okay. Now, was this the subject matter of another Bill that..."

"Yes. Yes, it was. It was House Bill 395, sponsored by Representative Leverenz last... last year."

"And... And what happened to that Bill?"

"It passed the House, and it did not pass the Senate."

"Fine. Okay. Thank you very much."

"The Gentleman from... Is there any further discussion? There being no further discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1929 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Does the Gentleman have leave to keep this Bill on the Order of Short Debate? Hearing no objection, the Gentleman has leave. Senate Bill 1936, Representative Terzich. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1936, a Bill for an Act in relation to the applicability of the replacement vehicle tax. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1945, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1945, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?" 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984

"No Floor Amendments."

"Representative Barnes, for what reason do you rise?"

"I have just been notified that there is going to be an Amendment filed, so I would like to keep that Bill on Second Reading."

"Cut of the record. Senate Bill 1949, Representative Keane. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1949, a Bill for an Act to create the Hazardous Waste Technology Exchange Service Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1951, Representative Keane. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1951, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1957, Representative Friedrich. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1957, a Bill for an Act in relation to obsolete and duplicative provisions in the statutes. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Dwight Friedrich, amends 27  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 13, 1984 Senate Bill 1957 on page 25 by deleting line 30 and 31."

"Representative Friedrich."

"Madam Speaker and Members of the House, this is the Legislative Reference Bureau revisory Bill, and the Amendment is just another thing that's come up in the Reference Bureau to be added to it. It's nonsubstantive. I move its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1957. And on that question, is there any discussion? Seeing no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1957 te adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Dwight Friedrich, amends Senate Bill 1957 on page 294."

"Representative Friedrich."

"The same explanation, Madam Chairman (sic Speaker). It's just a..."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1957. And on that question, is there any discussion? Seeing no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 to House (sic Senate) Bill 1957 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say "nay". In the opinion of the Chair, the "ayes have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, Dwight Friedrich."

"Representative Friedrich on Amendment #3."

"The same explanation, Madam Chairman (sic Speaker)."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 1957. And on that question, 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."

"Yes, I just want to make it clear that I believe that... Did the Gentleman ask for leave to consider these without having them printed?"

"The Gentleman did not ask leave to do that."

"I would ask leave, Madam Chairman (sic Speaker). This is... Amendment has just been adopted. I have an agreement with Representative Cullerton to move this to Third Reading with the understanding it'll be moved back if in their examination of it by staff there's any problems. The original Bill was only printed in a limited number by leave of the House."

"The Clerk advises me that you need leave to... to proceed with Amendments #2 and 3, and the Assembly is therefore asked. Does the Gentleman have leave to proceed with these Bills (sic Amendments) without them being printed and distributed? Hearing no objection, the Gentleman has leave. Is there any further discussion? There being no further discussion, the question is, Shall Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 1957 be adopted? All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Does the Gentleman have leave to keep this Bill on the Order of Short Debate? Hearing no objection, the Gentleman has leave to keep this Bill on the Order of Short Debate. With leave of the House, we would like to go back now to Representative Ropp's Bill, Senate Bill 1878. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1878, a Bill for an Act to create the Child Support Enforcement Trust Fund. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments." 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Ladies and Gentlemen, on the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading, at the... Ladies and Gentlemen, we are going to the Order of Senate Bills Third Reading, Short Debate Calendar. It's on page two on your Calendar. Senate Bill Third Reading Senate Bill 1448, Representative Giorgi - Greiman. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1459, Representative Keane. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1459, a Bill for an Act to amend the Inheritance and Transfer Tax Law. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Keane."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Senate Bill 1459 amends the Inheritance and Transfer Tax Law, requires county treasurers to transmit taxes collected under the law to the state treasury by, rather than on, the 10th day of each month. This was a finding... an exception in that the Audit... the Audit Commission found with the State Treasurer. The Treasurer introduced this legislation at the Audit Commission's request. The Bill has an Amendment on it. Amendment #1 takes a problem away. A parent without being appointed guardian or legal guardian of any minor child whose interest is not adverse to said child may, on behalf of the minor child, may make an election and sign without court approval an agreement pursuant to Section 2032(a) of the Internal Revenue Code for the valuation of property. It has... If they make that election, it has the same legal force as if the election had been made and the agreement had been signed by the minor child. I'd be happy to answer any questions and ask for a favorable Roll Call." 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"The Gentleman has moved Senate Bill 1459. June 13, 1984 for the passage of And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."

"Yes, would the Sponsor yield."

"The Gentleman will yield for a question."

"Representative Keane, did you indicate what the position of the county treasurers might be with regard to this Bill?"

"As far as I know, there's no opposition to it. The Bill... There was no one that spoke in opposition to the Bill when it was in Committee. It came out of Committee 10 to 1, and the county treasurer did not record any opposition to it."

"Well, maybe you could describe to me what additional duties the county treasurers would have or what different duties the county treasurers would have under this Bill."

"It basically says that they must... the taxes must be transferred... transmitted by the 10th rather than on. So it could be done before."

"And what's happening now?"

"It says on the 10th."

"Right now it says on the 10th they must transfer it."

"Yes. Yeah, all it does is it takes that from on the 10th to received by the 10th."

"So they would have to mail it... mail it sometime before the 10th."

"It has to reach the Treasurer by the 10th."

"What happens if it doesn't?"

"We didn't change any of the penalties or any... any of that."

"Alright. Thank you."

"Is there any further discussion? The Gentleman from... Is there any further discussion? There being no 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 further discussion, the question is, "Shall Senate Bill 1459 pass?" All those in favor vote "aye", all those opposed vote "no". Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 109 voting "aye", none voting "no" and none voting "present". This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1879, Representative Vinson - Byder. Out of the record. Ladies and Gentlemen, on the Order of Senate Bills Third Reading, page two on your Calendar, appears Senate Bill 450, Representative Giorgi. Clerk, read the... Out of the record. Senate Bill 1424, Representative Jaffe - White. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1481, Representative LeFlore. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1650, Representative Cullerton. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1650, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the State's Attorneys' Appellate Service Commission Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Cullerton."

"Yes, thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This would allow the State's Attorneys' Appellate Service Commission to assist state's attorneys in connection with the Collective Bargaining Act. The Collective Bargaining Act, as we all know, was recently enacted into law. This would allow for the Commission, which is a state-funded and county-funded program, to assist the county state's attorneys in their duties with regard to the negotiations conducted on behalf of a county or pursuant to an intergovernmental agreement with regard to these negotiations and possibly trial and appeal of such cases. Be happy to answer any questions, and I would appreciate the support."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 Senate Bill 1650. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Levin."

"Would the Gentleman yield for a question?"

"The Gentleman will yield for a question."

"Representative Cullerton, earlier in the Session, you had a Bill which authorized the extension of the State's Attorneys' Appellate Services Program to include Cook County. There's nothing like that in this Bill, is there?"

"No, the State's Attorneys' Appellate Service Commission is a... is prohibited from operating in Cook County, and in the downstate counties, it's done on a volunteer basis. If the county decides that they wish the services then they can opt in. This does not change that provision at all. It only deals with the Illinois Public Labor Relations Act in allowing the Commission to represent certain counties if they need the help with regard to handling labor relation negotiations and disputes."

"So what you're saying is, even in connection with labor relations, this would not apply to Cook County."

"I'm sorry. Couldn't hear you."

"In connection with labor relations, this would also not apply to Cook County."

"To Cook, no."

"Right? Right."

"Because they're not authorized to work in Cook."

"Thank you."

"Unfortunately."

"The Gentleman from Knox, Representative Hawkinson."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Gentleman will yield for a question."

"Representative Cullerton, the State's Attorneys' Appellate Service Commission does not presently have staff 33  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 13, 1984 that can handle this new duty, do they?"

"That's right. They do not have the staff."

"How many new positions would be required?"

"They have requested in their appropriation three additional attorneys, I believe. Three attorneys, right."

"And they feel this will be adequate to cover the 101 counties in labor relations?"

"Well, it's... it's designed to help the smaller state's attorneys offices which may not have the expertise or the manpower to handle labor relations. I wouldn't expect that large counties like Dupage or even any of the collar counties would... would utilize this. I think it's a downstate proposal, and it was requested by these smaller counties."

"I have had one of my larger counties contact me thinking that this would help them that has, you know, 10, 15 assistants in the office. But you... you would anticipate that this would be more likely the counties under 10,000 or the like."

"Well, if they're... if they're willing to participate in the program, they certainly are authorized to request the help. But the... the Commission felt that they only would need three attorneys to...to assist. They'd be specialists in this particular field, and they could go throughout the state whenever there was a labor dispute."

"Would these attorneys represent only counties or would they represent also individual elected county officials whose... would... I think there's some question as to whether they'd be separate bargaining units, for example, with a state's attorney's office or a county clerk's office or not. Would they represent individual office holders as well?"

"Well, my understanding is that they would take the 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 place of the assistant state's attorney. So whatever role the assistant state's attorney would have with regard to representing the county, they would have the same... same authority, so..."

"Thank you."

"The Gentleman from Bond, Representative Slape."

"Yes, would the Gentleman yield, please?"

"The Gentleman will yield for a question."

"Yes, Representative Cullerton, under this legislation, do you explain the term employer? Who exactly will the Commission be assisting?"

"The Commission may assist county state's attorneys in the discharge of their duties under the Illinois Public Labor Relations Act."

"Okay. What are those duties? It's my understanding those rules haven't even been laid down yet."

"Well, we say in the law it would include negotiations conducted on behalf of a county, trial and appeal of cases with regard to labor relations."

"Thank you. Madam Speaker, to the Bill."

"Proceed."

"I think... I think this is... we're in the wrong stage of this to start deciding who's going to pay for the negotiations. I don't think that the State of Illinois should be all that willing to run in rapidly and start picking up the legal tabs for these negotiations till we actually find out how wide a scope we're going to be. It's no... I have no doubt that if we start doing it for the counties, it won't be long and the municipalities will ask us to do it for them. And I think we should take a very close look at this before we decide that the State of Illinois is going to start paying the legal expenses in all the negotiations." 35  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 13, 1984

"The Gentleman from Dupage, Representative McCracken."

"Will the Gentleman yield?"

"The Gentleman will yield for a question."

"Representative, the state would pay these additional costs in salaries in the first instance. Is that right?"

"Well, the way the... Whatever the state pays, the individual counties pay one-third. That's how the State's Attorneys Appellate Service Commission works."

"Okay. So they'd be charging the counties on the same basis that they charge them now for services?"

"Right. That's correct."

"Would there be a separate charge, or would it be itemized or do you know how that would..."

"It's going to be done, as I understand it, on a contractual basis with the counties paying one-third and the state paying two-thirds."

"Okay."

"The Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative Flinn."

"Madam Speaker, I move the previous question."

"Representative Flinn moves the previous question. The question is, "Shall the main question be put?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it, and the main question is put. Representative Cullerton, to close."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As I indicated, since we now have a Labor Relations Act, there are going to be some smaller counties that are going to..."

"Excuse me, Representative Cullerton. Representative Vinson, for what reason do you rise?" 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"Madam Speaker, I apologize June 13, 1984 for interrupting the Gentleman's closing, but I wonder if he might be willing to take this Bill out of the record at this time."

"Sure."

"Thank you."

"Representative Cullerton, what is your pleasure on this Bill? Representative Cullerton."

"If I could have leave to come back to the Bill..."

"At the end of this Order of Business?"

"...sometime during this Order sc I can close on the Bill, and..."

"Very good. Does the Gentleman have leave to take this Bill out of the record for a short time and come back to it later on? Hearing no objection, the Gentleman has leave. At this time, Ladies and Gentlemen, we would like to go back to an appropriation Bill that is considered an emergency appearing on this Order of Call. It is Senate Bill 1371. Representative Neff and Homer are the Sponsors. Representative Mays, I understand, will handle the Bill. Representative Mays. Representative Homer, Senate Bill 1371. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1371, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act making appropriations for educational and other Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Homer."

"Thank you, purposes. Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. Representative Neff is the Chief Sponsor on this Bill. I'm a hyphenated Cosponsor. In Bepresentative Neff's absence I'll handle the Bill. What we're asking here for is a supplemental appropriation of 600,000 dollars to Western Illinois University which would come from the Governor's University Income Fund, not from GFF. The reason for the need is that a couple of years ago we put in a coal 37  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE conversion power heating plant in the university, and the projections at that time showed that there would be a decline in the cost of natural gas usage. It turns out that that coal conversion process has not come on line as rapidly as hoped; and, therefore, the university has incurred additional natural gas heating expenses of 600,000 dollars. To my knowledge, the Bill has no opposition and is agreed to by all the parties including the Governor's Office, and I would ask for your support."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1371. And on that question, is there any discussion? Seeing no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1371 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'aye', none voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1755, Representative Homer. Clerk, read... Representative Homer, you want to do another one? Senate Bill 1755? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1798, Representative Christensen. Representative Christensen. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1812, Representative Nash. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1841, Representative Keane. Out of the record. Ladies and Gentlemen, it should be remembered that we have only two weeks for consideration of these Bills, and you would be well advised to call your Bill if at all possible. Senate Bill 1844, Representative Braun. Out of the record. Representative Cullerton, we are at the end of this Order of Call. Would you still prefer to wait? Representative Cullerton."

"I would think that it would be appropriate for me to have... to be able to take up with the Bill where I was 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 when I was interrupted that being in close..."

"That would be fine, and would you prefer to do that now?"

"No. We'll do that some other time when it's more propitious."

"Well, Representative Cullerton, I... I can't guarantee that. Senate Bills Second Reading, page five of your Calendar. Representative Braun, are you ready to proceed on Senate Bill 495? Representative Braun. Out of the record. Senate Bill 626, Representative Currie. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1179, Representative Jaffe and White. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1217, Representative Nash. Representative Nash. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1217, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 were adopted in Committee."

"Representative Nash."

"Madam Speaker, there's a Motion..."

"Excuse me. Excuse me. Are there any Motions filed?"

"Motion one. "I motion... I move to table Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1217. Representative Nash."

"Representative Nash."

"Yes, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, it's an agreement with the other side of the aisle and with the Sponsor of the Amendment to table Amendment #2."

"The Gentleman moves to table Amendment #1... excuse me, Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1217. All those... Is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, Shall Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1217 be tabled? All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the Motion 39  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 13, 1984 carries. Are there any further Motions?"

"Motion. I move to table Amendment #5 to Senate Bill 1217. Representative Nash."

"Representative Nash."

"Yes, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment #5 is also in agreement with the other side of the aisle to be tabled. It's my Amendment, and I move to table it."

"The Gentleman moves to table Amendment #5 to Senate Bill 1217. And on that question, is there any discussion? Seeing no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #5 to Senate Bill 1217 be tabled?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is tabled. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Amendment #7, Olson, amends Senate Bill 1217 as amended."

"Representative Olson."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #7 to Senate Bill 1217 is an identical Amendment to which was included in House Bill 3181 which permits precinct committeemen, who may act as registrars in a county, also serve to challenge registrations in a county. I move for the adoption of Amendment #7 to Senate Bill 1217."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #7 to Senate Bill 1217. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Nash."

"Yes, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, it's an agreed Amendment. I also move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman from Knox, Representative Hawkinson."

"Will the Sponsor of the Amendment yield for a 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day question?" June 13, 1984

"The Gentleman will yield for a question."

"Representative, did you say that this Amendment was the same as the substance of House Bill 3181?"

"Representative Olson."

"Representative Hawkinson, the substance of this Amendment is exactly the same as the Amendment I offered to 3181.

"But it is not the same as the Bill 3181."

"No, it's not exactly the same as the Bill. It's my Amendment to that Bill."

"Would you refresh my recollection on what your Amendment did?"

"My Amendment basically provides that registrars who may now be permitted to register in the entire county may also challenge registrations."

"Thank you."

"Excuse me, Representative. Representative Cullerton, for what reason do you rise?"

"I don't think we can determine whether or not this is identical to another Bill because this hasn't been printed yet, I don't believe and distributed."

"The Gentleman is correct. The Bill (sic Amendment) has not been printed or distributed. Representative Olson. The Clerk indicates that the Bill has not... the Amendment has not been printed and distributed. We, therefore, have to take this..."

"Take it out of the record. Thank you."

"...Amendment out of the record and the Bill out of the record. Senate Bill 1375, Representative Mautino. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1375, a Bill for an Act to add Sections to the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments." 41  STATE OP ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Johnson, amends Senate Bill 1375 as amended."

"Representative Johnson, on Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1375. Excuse me. The Clerk indicates that this Amendment has not been printed and distributed either. Representative Mautino says to take this Bill out of the record. Senate Bill 1382, Representative Mautino - Giglio. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1382, a Bill for an Act to regulate the transportation on rail of hazardous nuclear materials in Illinois. Second Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Mautino, Amendments have just been filed to this Bill. They have not been printed and distributed either. What is your pleasure? The Amendments, therefore, cannot be heard. The Gentleman must, therefore, move to table the Amendments that have been filed. Representative Mautino. How many Amendments are there, Mr. Clerk?"

"There are ten Amendments to Senate Bill 1382."

"Representative Mautino, do you wish to do this as one Roll Call or individually?"

"One Roll Call. The Bill was sent out of Committee last Thursday. I... No one spoke to me about any Amendments. I'd like to move my legislation to Third Reading, and I would move to table the Amendments that have been filed late as... on 1382. I think it's basically a tactic to... to kill the Bill and to disallow the movement of the Bill is its entirety and its original proposal. Therefore, I move to table those Amendments."

"The Gentleman from Bureau, Representative Mautino, moves to table Amendments 1 through 10 to Senate Bill 1382. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day Representative Piel." June 13, 1984

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would ask the Gentleman to reconsider his Motion, the reason being, you know, he's saying that people had time enough to file Amendments. Well, when the Bill is on Second Reading is the time to file Amendments. I don't have the slightest idea whose the Amendments are, whether they're Republican, Democrat or whose Amendments they are. But I would ask him to reconsider his position, because, you know, that's what Second Reading is for is a time to introduce Amendments. And if the Amendments are bad, fine, vote the Amendments down. If they're good, let's put them on the Bill. But as far as, you know, making a blanket Motion of tabling ten Amendments that haven't, you know, been distributed, I think the man is being unfair to the Members of the Assembly, and I would ask him to withdraw his Motion."

"Representative Mautino, to close on his Motion."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. Mr. Piel has been here long enough to know the... the current position of the Sponsor of any piece of legislation. If there were ten individuals who intended to amend this legislation in any way, shape or form, a common courtesy was to at least come to the Sponsor and inform him or her that they are considering Amendments. That has not happened in this case. I think it's a delaying tactic used to possibly kill this Bill. Therefore, I renew my Motion, because I'd like to have it in the same form in which it was sent out of Committee and placed on Third Reading."

"The Gentleman has moved to table Amendments 1 through 10 to Senate Bill 1382. All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 this question there are 67 voting 'aye' and 44 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. Representative Piel, for what reason do you rise?"

"Want to verify the... the 'yes' votes, please."

"The Gentleman has asked for a verification of the Roll Call. Representative M  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCBIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984

"Huff. Keane. Krska. Kulas. Laurino. Leflore. Leverenz. Levin. Markette. Marzuki. Matijevich. Mautino. McGann."

"Excuse me, Mr. Clerk. Representative Hannig asks leave to be verified, Representative Piel. And that is granted. Representative Curran asks for the same courtesy, Representative Piel. And that is granted. Proceed, Mr. Clerk."

"McPike. Mulcahey. Nash. O'Connell. Panayotovich. Pangle. Pierce. Preston. Rea. Bhem. Rice. Richmond. Ronan. Saltsman. Satterthwaite. Shaw. Slape. Steczo. Stuffle. Terzich. Turner. Van Duyne. Vitek. White. Wolf. Younge. McNamara. Mr. Speaker."

"Representative Fiel, do you have any questions of the Affirmative Roll Call?"

"Yes. Representative Barnes. First of all, Madam Speaker, may I ask what we're starting with? Are we starting with 67?"

"Mr. Clerk, what is the count? 67 'aye', 45 'no'."

"Okay. Representative Barnes."

"Representative Barnes? Is the Lady in the chamber? The Lady is not in the chamber. Remove her. Representative Ewing, for what reason do you rise?"

"Would you record me as 'no'?"

"Representative Ewing wishes to be recorded as voting 'no'. Representative Satterthwaite, for what reason... Representative Satterthwaite asks leave to be verified, Representative Piel. And that is granted, Representative Satterthwaite. Do you have any further questions of the Roll?"

"Let's see. We took Representative Barnes off, correct?"

"Yes, Representative Barnes has been removed 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 from the Roll Call."

"Okay. Representative Brookins."

"Excuse me. Representative Madigan asks to go from 'aye' to 'present'. Change the Speaker from 'aye' to 'present'. Proceed, Representative Piel. Representative... Excuse me. Representative Hicks, for what reason do you rise? Representative Hicks goes from 'aye' to 'no'. Representative Younge asks leave to be verified. Does the Lady have leave? The Lady has leave? Proceed, Representative Piel."

"The... Okay. Representative Brookins."

"Representative Brookins. The Gentleman is not in the chamber. Remove him."

"Representative Brummer."

"Representative Brummer. Representative Brummer. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Remove him."

"Representative Currie."

"Representative Currie is in her seat."

"Representative Domico."

"Representative Domico? Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Representative Domico. The Gentleman is not in the chamber. Remove him."

"Representative Capparelli."

"Representative Capparelli. Representative Capparelli. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Remove him."

"Representative Krska."

"Representative Capparelli has just returned to the chamber. Add him to the Roll Call. Representative Preston asks leave to be verified, Representative Piel. That is granted, Representative Preston. Representative Turner, for what reason do you rise? The Gentleman asks leave to be verified. Does the Gentleman have leave, Representative Preston (sic - Piel)? The Gentleman has 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 leave."

"I'm Piel. Preston's over there. Representative Krska."

"Representative Krska. Representative Krska. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? The Gentleman is not in the chamber. Remove him."

"Representative Laurino."

"Representative Laurino. The Gentleman is in the chamber."

"Representative Pierce."

"Representative Pierce. The Gentleman is in the chamber."

"Representative Rea."

"Representative Rea? Representative Rea. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? The Gentleman is not in the chamber. Remove him."

"Representative Terzich."

"Representative Terzich. The Gentleman is in the chamber."

"Representative McGann."

"Representative McGann? The Gentleman is in the chamber. Representative Homer, for what reason do you rise? Representative Homer."

"How am I recorded, Madam Speaker?"

"You are recorded as voting 'aye', Representative."

"Representative Nash."

"Representative Nash. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? The Gentleman is in the chamber. Representative Braun, for what reason do you rise? The Lady asks leave to be verified, Representative Piel. Does the Lady have leave?"

"She can have leave, but I'm finished verifying. No further questions, Madam Speaker." 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

June 13, 1984 "Very good. Representative Brummer, for what reason do you rise?"

"How am I recorded?"

"Representative Brummer, you were removed from the Roll Call. How do you wish to be recorded?"

"Please record me 'aye'."

"The Gentleman wishes to be added to the Roll Call as voting 'aye'. On this Roll Call there are 60 voting 'aye'... Representative Piel."

"Madam Speaker, I would ask that he would check that one more time, because I can tell you who we took off, and we've got 59 ayes".

"Did you just add on Representative Piel (sic Brummer)?"

"We had 58 'ayes..."

"Or Representative Brummer?"

"We had 58 'ayes" before Representative Brummer went 'aye'."

"We'll ask the Clerk to check his... his figures again."

"If he would like, I can give him the names of the people that we took off."

"Do you have Representative Capparelli as going back on, Representative Piel? Representative McPike, for what reason do you rise?"

"Please change me to 'present'."

"Representative McPike goes from 'aye' to 'present'. Representative Rea asks to be put back on the Roll Call. Representative Brookins asks to be put back on the Roll Call. Change Representative Breslin from 'aye' to 'present'. Representative Brummer? Representative Brummer changes from 'aye' to 'present'. Representative Slape goes from 'aye' to 'present'. Representative Pangle goes from 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 'aye' to 'present'. Representative Pangle went from 'aye' to 'present'. On this Motion there are 56 voting 'aye', 47 voting 'no' and 6 voting 'present', and the Motion carries. Are there any further Amendments? Representative Piel."

"Maybe I misunderstood. You said the Motion carries?"

"The Motion carries. The Motion to table carries."

"It was a Motion to table. Correct me if I'm wrong. You can ask the Parliamentarian. Are... Doesn't the rule state that on a Motion to table takes 60 votes?"

"The rules state that a Motion to table requires a simple Majority of those voting on the issue, the same as the passage of an Amendment in the first place. There are 56 voting 'aye', 47 voting 'no' and 6 voting 'present', and this Motion fails. There are no further Amendments. Third Reading. Senate Bill 13... Excuse me. The Motion has passed. The Amendments are tabled. There are no further Amendments. So, the Bill goes to Third Reading. Senate Bill 1395. With leave of the House, I'd like to go back to Senate Bill 1223, Representative Hoffman - Friedrich. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1223, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 has been withdrawn. Floor Amendment #2, Hoffman, amends Senate Bill 1223 as amended."

"Representative Hoffman."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The effect of Senate Amendment... or of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1223 we've deleted the provisions that provide that any legislation introduced after January 1, 1985, which increase benefits in cost 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 shall be accompanied by an appropriate increase in the minimum contribution rates. This Amendment was drawn up with agreement of the Chairman of the... of the Pension Committee, Representative aclf, and the parties that it involved, and it's been agreed to by the Senate Sponsor. And I would move for the adoption of Amendment #2."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #232 to Senate Bill 1223. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton. The Gentleman indicates he does not seek recognition. Is there any further discussion? There being no further discussion, the question is, Shall Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1223 be adopted?" All those in favor say aye, all those opposed say nay'. In the opinion of the Chair the ayes have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Again with leave of the Assembly the Chair would like to go back to Senate Bill 1217 as the Amendment is presently ready. Senate Bill 1217, Representative Nash. Clerk, read the Pill."

"Senate Bill 1217, has been read a second time previously with Amendments #2 and 5 being tabled. Floor Amendment #37, Olson, amends Senate Bill 1217 as amended."

"Representative Nash... excuse me Representative Olson."

"Thank you. Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #7 to 1217 has now been distributed. It basically says this in essence. It permits precinct committee men to challenge the validity of registrations anywhere in the county as they are now permitted by an Amendment to this Bill to service the deputy registrar anyplace in the county in which they reside. This is not 50  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 13, 1984 applicable to Cook or Chicago, as they do not have precinct committeeman in that jurisdiction. So I would move for the adoption of Amendment #7 to Senate Bill 1217."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #7 to Senate Bill 1217. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Nash."

"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, as I stated earlier this is an agreed Amendment, and I move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman from Macon, Representative Dunn." Dunn, J.: "Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Gentleman will yield for a question." Dunn, J.: "It's tough to hear over here. Did you say this will allow a precinct committeeman to register anywhere in the county?"

"An additional Amendment to this Bill, Representative Dunn, permits a duly authorized committeeman, a registrar, to register any place in the county. That is a part of 1217. Amendment #7 permits the same committeeman to challenge anywhere in the county." Dunn, J.: "I can't hear you. What did you just say about... What's the Amendment do?"

"The Amendment permits a duly appointed registrar to challenge anyplace in the county." Dunn, J.: "I still... I still can't hear."

"Excuse me, Representative Dunn. The Gentleman has indicated that the Amendment allows any precinct committeeman to challenge any person in the entire county rather than just in his precinct... his or her precinct. That's the answer." Dunn, J.: "Okay, well then why do you want to do that?"

"Representative Olson."

"Thank you, I'll try again. Do you hear me now, 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day Representative?" Dunn, J.: "Why do you want to do that?"

June 13, 1984 "We seek to do that is put into context the same authorization that an Amendment to this Bill permits duly authorized committeeman, registrars, to register anyone in the county. It puts it into the same context. They can register anyplace in the county or in essence they will be able to challenge registration anyplace in the county. This was a part of 3181 that was passed a week ago and got hung up in the Senate." Dunn, J.: "And who wants this legislation and who's opposed to it?"

"The County Clerks' Association feels that this should be in tandum."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Huff."

"Yes, Madam Speaker, will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Gentleman will yield for a question."

"Well as I... Representative Olson, as I understand your Amendment it will allow the registrar to register anyone and to challenge anyone, right?"

"Downstate."

"Well, what's to stop that guy... that registrar from challenging everybody in that... in that county including the cows and the pigs and everything else?"

"Well we have a number of those downstate. Understanding this is not applicable to Cook. It has... It has to be done, Representative Huff, in context with the State Board of Election's standards as they are now."

"Yes, but I mean what... what provisions do you have in there to safeguard that against that happening? I mean we've... we've experienced this in Chicago. We've had one challenger challenge everybody in the ward, everybody."

"Well this is not a applicable to your standards in 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 Chicago because you are exempt from this."

"Yes, but you haven't answered my question. What's to stop this registrar from challenging everybody in that county?"

"The standards that are set by the State Board of Election. Representative Nash, would like to respond to that."

"Representative Nash has an answer to the question."

"In reference to what Representative Huff is referring to, in the City of Chicago right now the election judges can register people, and they can challenge them. They can take them off if they don't live there. And this Amendment does the same thing. As long as a registrar can register someone to vote, if they find they don't live there anymore, they can challenge him. They can take him off. It's a very simple Amendment. It puts the Bill in the order. It's an agreed Amendment."

"Representative Huff, to the Bill... or the Amendment."

"As we found in Chicago, Madam Chairman (sic Speaker), Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, these affidavits that these challengers present to precipitate the challenge are usually... on this face. They haven't met any of the requirements, and the Board of Election should strike these depositions, but they allow them to stand nonetheless. And we go through all of this effort and money and time and really don't knock off anybody. I think that this is a waste of time, and this Amendment should be struck."

"Representative Nash, for what reason do you rise?"

"In answer to the last..."

"Representative Nash, you have already spoken to the question. Representative Pangle, from Kankakee." 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 13, 1984 133rd Legislative Day

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. A question to the Sponsor."

"Question of the Sponsor. The Gentleman indicates he will yield for a question."

"When the challenge is made, who will the challenge actually be made to?"

"To the county clerk or the Election Commission whichever it might be. This is strictly a downstate challenge."

"So it would be to the county clerk of, let's say Kankakee County, is that correct?"

"I'm sorry, Representative, I was talking..."

"I'm glad you're getting all that support from Cook County on a nonpartisan Cook County Bill. If it's challenged, the County of Kankakee, for an example, the county clerk will determine that challenge. I mean it will be up to his discretion?"

"The deputy registrar who is making the challenge in the county, the same as he would be going around signing people up to vote, would take it to the proper authority, and they would have plenty of time under the State Board of Election standards to challenge it prior to the election, a couple of weeks up front. They just can't walk in and have their allegation accepted. It has to be supported by substantial evidence."

"So there will be enough time if there is a challenge made that that person if challenged, if it's 28 days before election, can still be eligible..."

"Yes, there's very adequate time. The county clerks are supported with this Amendment."

"The county clerks figure they have enough time to take care of the challenges in the voter registration..."

"That's right, we wouldn't have suggested it otherwise."

"Thank you."

"The Gentleman from Jefferson, Representative 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day Hicks." June 13, 1984

"Yes, Madam Speaker, a question of the Sponsor of the Amendment please."

"The Gentleman will yield to a question."

"Yes, Representative Olson, is this Amendment similar to the Amendment that we placed on 3181?"

"Yes, Representative, this is exactly the same Amendment as we put on 3181 which we had visited with you."

"And currently under Illinois Election Code cannot any registered voter in the State of Illinois challenge any other registered voter if they feel like they're... they're illegal?"

"I didn't hear you. Someone was rapping the gavel."

"Currently, under Illinois statutes, as far as the Election Code goes, cannot any registered voter challenge any other voter?"

"They may within the jurisdiction, yes."

"Fine. Madam Speaker, to the Amendment. The Amendment is very similar to what we placed on my Bill, House Bill 3181. As a matter of fact, I understand it's exactly like it. It's not an Amendment that's going to create any problems. I support the Amendment, and I'd ask everybody else to support the Amendment."

"There being no further discussion, the Gentleman from Lee, Representative Olson, to close."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This has had adequate discussion. I would reemphasize this is only applicable to downstate. It gives a balance to registering and challenges the proper safeguards are spelled out by the State Board of Elections and supported by the county clerks. And I urge its adoption."

"Representative Olson moves the adoption of 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 Amendment #7 to Senate Bill 1217. All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say "nay. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1395, Representative McGann - Satterthwaite. Clerk, read the... Out of the record. Senate Bill 1420, Representative Keane - Levin. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill..."

"1420."

"1420, a Bill for an Act in relationship to delinquent taxpayers. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1470. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1470, a Bill for an Act relating to the sale of retail of merchandise by or on property of state institutions of higher learning. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1478, Representative Wojcik - Karpiel. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1484, Representative Greiman - Nash. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1484, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments? Representative Greiman, for what reason do you rise?" 56  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Greiman: "I did file an Amendment. I'm not sure that it's been... has it been distributed? Apparently it's been distributed." June 13, 1984

"Amendment #1, Greiman, amends Senate Bill 1484 and so forth."

"Representative Greiman."

"Yes, thank you. This Bill as it was originally filed deals with bus drivers, school bus drivers, who are intoxicated or found guilty of driving while under intoxication, driving a school bus under intoxication. In the Senate they increased the penalty from a Class 4 Felony to a Class 3 and passed the Bill. It seemed to us, to the Committee that heard it, the Transportation Committee, that that would be an unusually harsh penalty. Certainly we should have a harsher penalty and raise it from a Class A Misdemeanor to a Class 4 Felony. So this puts it in the condition that it was originally filed, a Class 4 Felony. It also requires that a student or the school children be present on the bus at that time. The thrust of the Bill is that we punish those people who are driving buses, school buses, and are intoxicated. And the thrust of it is, therefore, that there be children present and that the children be endangered. And accordingly, I ask for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1484."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1484. And on that question, the Lady from Chicago, Representative Alexander."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Gentleman will yield for a question."

"Are we inferring to intoxication via alcohol or other forms of intoxication that prove that your drunk? You know they do have other drugs out there that produce a drunkness. Are we just limiting it to alcohol?" 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984

"NO, it would be also drugs as well, other drugs as well, yes."

"Okay, that is also included?"

"Yes."

"Alright, thank you."

"The question is, Shall Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1484 be adopted?" All those in favor say aye', all those opposed say 'nay". In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1491, Representative Flinn. Clerk, read the... Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1491, a Bill for an Act to amend the Uniform Disposition of Unclaimed Property Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Zwick, amends Senate Bill 1491 on page one and so forth."

"Representative Zwick."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. I am proposing Amendment #2 which simply expands on what the original Bill does. Okay, the original Bill follows several recommendations and certainly nothing that I object to. It is a definition in the Unclaimed Property Act for an act of expressed trust. The problem is that the definition is simply inadequate in that there is no distinction in the definition between an act of expressed trust and an inact of expressed trust. So I add five words to the definition which are and that purpose has not ended, which draws a d stinction between active expressed trust and inactive expressed trust. Now the purpose is 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSENBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 very important, because an inactive expressed trust has to be treated very differently and is currently being addressed by litigation in the State of Illinois between the Department of Financial Institutions and Chicago Title and Trust. The Department of Financial Institutions is supposed to under the Unclaimed Property Act search the records of financial institutions or be... have the financial institutions report to them on a search that they have done of their records for inactive property or trusts so that we can notify the beneficiaries or trustees of this unclaimed property and return it to the proper owner; or, if that is not possible, that we can turn those funds over to the pension funds, which is where the money would go to if it's unclaimed property that is not claimed after proper notification procedures. If this Bill is passed the way it is without this Amendment on it, those enactive trusts will be able to be held by the title companies or whatever financial institution is holding them without proper notification to the beneficiary or trustee and without properly channeling those funds back to the state where they should be. They will be held by the trust companies, and they will earn the interest that the state should be getting or the person who is rightfully entitled to that property. I would submit to you that this is a very important Amendment. I hope you will pay attention to it. It is very important that we get the Amendment on the Bill. It will overturn. It will actually negate the effect. This Bill without the Amendment will negate the effect of the current litigation that is pending for the Department of Financial Institutions to go in and search for inactive trusts in the trust companies. I... I urge your support of this Amendment, and I would be glad to answer any questions that you might have." 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

June 13, 1984 "The Lady has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1491. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative O'Connell."

"Question of the Sponsor."

"The Lady will yield for a question."

"Representative, your Amendment was the same Amendment Zwick: that was offered in the Financial Institutions Committee. Is that correct?" "Yes, that is correct."

"Okay. You said that this will negate any litigation that's pending right now. Is that your statement?"

"It will make it mute. If the Bill passes without this Amendment, it will make that litigation mute."

"Make it mute, okay."

"Right, it will... it will negate the effect of it, actually. I mean the litigation will not be able to continue, because it will be overturned, really, by this Amendment. O'Connell: Zwick: I mean I... by this Bill." "Well, the litigation is an interpretation of what is an expressed trust... active trust." "It's a question between what is active and what is inactive and if the Department had the right to search for those inactive trusts."

"So if you don't put the Amendment on, you're going to leave it up to the courts to decide what is an active trust?"

"No, if you don't put the Amendment on, then the Bill will pass as it is, which will say that there is no difference between an active and an inactive trust so that the Department cannot go in and search for inactive trusts, because there will be no difference under our definition."

"Well presently, doesn't the court decide what is an active trust and what is an inactive trust?" 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"I'm sorry, I didn't hear you." June 13, 1984

"Presently, isn't the current practice that the courts in equity determine what is an active trust?"

"No, it's not the court. It is by our statutes that we create. I believe it's after seven years of inactivity without... unless there was like, of course, the first payout of the trust did occur for after seven years."

"The courts... The courts have some jurisdiction over this matter, now. Do they not?"

"You can only appeal to the courts if you believe that the statutes are insufficient, which is what has been done, because there is currently no definition."

"Well, who interprets the statute?"

"Well, the courts do, of course."

"Alright now with your Amendment on..."

"Yes?"

"Are you not giving the Department of Financial Institutions the determination to decide?"

"No, I'm putting... I'm putting it in the law. I'm putting it in the statute book. I just think it's better to have a good definition or no definition. What this Bill proposes to make the definition is an inadequate definition."

"Well who's going to decide whether... excuse me, Representative... Who will decide whether the purpose has not ended?"

"That is determined by law."

"Somebody has to interpret the law."

"Right and we create the law and say that after seven years of enactivity. Then we look at it to see if it is unclaimed, and they can certainly debate that point. If the Department would say this is an inactive trust at this point according to the statutes, then anyone could 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 certainly appeal that. And they could even begin by doing it internally before going on to the courts. But we do create in the statutes specific legislation as to what is an active trust and what is inactive. There is a definition in Black's Law Dictionary, for example, that is very different from this one."

"To the Bill, Madam Speaker."

"Proceed."

"I would have to recommend that there be a negative vote on this Amendment. I think that the Amendment does, in fact, gut the intent of the Bill, and I think pursuant to our... the discussion in Financial Institutions Committee my concern is that you are taking out of the courts the determination as to what is an active trust and placing it more prominently in the hands of the Department of Financial Institution. Albeit written into the statute, I don't think the statute is that clear. Anytime anyone can differ on the language and that purpose has not ended. I don't think that that determination should be placed in the hands of the Department of Financial Institutions, and I would recommend a 'no vote on this Amendment."

"The Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative Flinn."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise in opposition to this Amendment to my Bill. The Bill originally came from JCAR, and it came about simply because the Department was having negative reporting. Each year, whether you had any trusts or not, you had to do a report. It also came about because the Department was trying to institute rules which took away from the bank of commissioners who has the right, right now, to audit active trusts. It also takes away from the equity court which has been making decisions on active trusts. This Amendment was offered... as an Amendment in 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 the Senate and was turned down. It was offered in the Committee and turned down. The Lady who is sponsoring it did not have the benefit of being at the Committee that day and didn't get to hear all of the things that were said about the Amendment and the fact that it guts the Bill. And I don't think she appreciates what the Bill is for. She's a super nice person. I hate to oppose her, but I think that she ought to know what she is talking about. And I believe she's been had by some Department representative. I would ask that you defeat the Amendment once and for all."

"There being no further discussion, the Lady from Kane, Representative Zwick, to close."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I appreciate some comments that have been made, and I regret that I did miss the Committee hearing that day. But I have pretty thoroughly researched this Bill, and I do believe that there is some misunderstanding that is quite widely spread around... on this particular issue. I admit that this is a JCAR recommendation, but I think that perhaps JCAR has been had on this one to tell you the truth. This... What this does is basically what I said. My Amendment does gut the effect of what Chicago Title and Trust is trying to do. What my Amendment does is... is safeguard against the permitting of inactive or failed trusts to escape the coverage of this Act, and that is what the intention of this Act was, for unclaimed properties so that we can find unclaimed property and notify the proper owners, not leave it sitting with Chicago Title and Trust or some other financial institution for them to earn the interest. The interest rightfully belongs with the beneficiary or trustee even if, when the trust is inactive or failed, or it should go to the State of Illinois pension funds, and perhaps we can save a little 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 bit of money that we might have to appropriate. I would request your support on this Bill, and I appreciate your consideration of the Amendment."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1491 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 46 voting 'aye', 53 voting 'no' and 3 voting 'present', and the Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading."

"Senate Bill 1509, Representative Terzich. Representative Terzich? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1522, Representative Greiman - Currie. Excuse me, Representative Terzich is back. With leave of the House, let's go back to Senate Bill 1509, Representative Terzich. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1509, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Park District Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1522, Representative Greiman. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1524, Representative Stuffle. Representative Stuffle? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1538, Representative Giorgi. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1538, a Bill for an Act in relation to the interest rate on special assessments in certain sanitary districts. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Representative... Are there any Floor 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day Amendments?" June 13, 1984

"Floor Amendment #1, Giorgi, amends..."

"Representative Giorgi."

"Madam Speaker, Members of the House, Amendment #1... it's the... is the result of the problem created by the Federal EPA placing certain requirements upon sanitary districts. They order that sanitary districts have pretreatment programs to control... users by permitting contracts and then also the ability to remedy noncompliance and immediately to affect and hault threatening pollutants in the sanitary districts services. This Bill allows sanitary districts to prepare the necessary permits and contracts and to allow the sanitary districts to force these people to comply with their regulations with a subpeona. That's all this does, and I urge the support of the Amendment."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1538. And on that question, is there any discussion? Seeing no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1538 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Giorgi."

"Representative Giorgi."

"Floor Amendment #2 is the... the contents of Floor Amendment #2 is the same as the House Bill #2523 that went out of the House. We've had profusely quite a bit of debate on the Amendment, and it died in the Senate Rules. And I'd like to put it on this Bill so we can keep House Bill 2523 alive. And what that allows is for emergency repairs to sanitary sewers or sanitary districts. It's the same as the Act that municipalities have, and it's no 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 different. All it allows is by emergency it suspends bidding and purchasing requirements because of an emergency. It takes two-thirds of the vote of the members of the board, and what they do has to be on display for a year to show that there is no chicanery. I urge for the adoption of Amendment #2."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1538. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Piel."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, will the Gentleman yield for a question, please?"

"The Gentleman will yield for a question."

"Representative, this Amendment basically with a two-thirds vote is giving a carte blanche to where they can, you know, buy things up to $40,000 without bidding. Is that correct?"

"Only in the case of a dire emergency."

"Well the way ve, you know, read the Amendment here is that, by a vote of two-thirds of the board, they can suspend the advertise and competitive bidding procedures. You know, what in the Amendment sort of would classify, you know, the emergency situation?"

"Okay, the emergency situation would be a situation where, for example, a shopping center like the Woodfield Shopping Center or the Oakbrook Shopping Center or the Rockford Cherryville Shopping Center has a main break, has debris spewing all over the shopping center, and it's going to take 20 or 30 or 40 thousand dollars in this day's prices, to do the job."

"Well I know what an emergency is... I know what emergency is, but what I'm asking is where is it in the Amendment that you're saying only in emergency situaticas. The way I'm reading the Amendment is that at any time with a 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 two-thirds vote of the board, they can waive advertising and bidding procedures up to $40,000."

"What it says is, in the event of an emergency, it takes two-thirds of the board to suspend their bidding and purchasing procedures so they can go into the emergency action. This does not apply to the Metropolitan Sanitary District of Chicago."

"Thank you."

"Is there any further discussion? There being no further discussion, the Gentleman from Winnebago, to close."

"Madam Speaker, I've explained the Bill. I think this..."

"The Gentleman has... The question is, Shall Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 58... 1538 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Third Reading. Excuse me, are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, Giorgi, amends Senate Bill 1538 by deleting the title and so forth."

"Excuse me, this Bill remains on the Order of Second Reading. Representative Giorgi, for what reason do you rise?"

"Madam Speaker, Amendment #3 is identical to Amendment #2 that we just adopted. So I'd like to withdraw Amendment #3."

"Very good. The Gentleman withdraws Amendment #3. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1589, Representative Alexander. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1589, a Bill for an Act to amend the 67  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIFTION DEBATE June 13, 1984 Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Kirkland."

"Representative Kirkland."

"Withdraw Amendment #2, please."

"The Gentleman withdraws Amendment #2 there. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, Kirkland."

"Representative Kirkland."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #3 we intended to add in Committee, and I walked out of the room, and the Bill was called and went past. This is to amend the no fault portion of the Illinois Marriage and Dissolution Act to clarify, I believe, that separation periods occurring prior to July 1 when the Bill goes into effect will be counted toward the separation periods called for in the statute, and I ask for support."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 1589. And on that question, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Effingham, Representative Brummer."

"Yes, excuse me, but I did not completely understand the clarification. How does... This undoubtedly deals with the length or period separation. How does it change existing law?"

"It doesn't change the provisions for length of separation, but it simply said where... says that... clarifies, I think, that where there is separation prior to July 1 and up to and through July 1 that that period of 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 separation will count toward the numbers called for in the statute. The numbers aren't being changed."

"Okay, and is that a... that's a one year period, if I recall correctly."

"It's six months when the parties agree and two years when they don't agree."

"Okay, and that's a consecutive period of time?"

"That's correct."

"And we aren't changing that."

"I'm sorry."

"We are not changing that. This Amendment would not alter that in any way."

"That's correct."

"Okay, thank you."

"The question is, Shall Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 1589 be adopted? All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Braun, in the Chair."

"Senate Bill 1612, Representative Hoffman. Representative Hoffman? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1625, Representative Ropp. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1629, Representative Giorgi. Representative Giorgi? Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Do you wish to have your Bill called? 1629. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1629, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Horseracing Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?" 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984

"A Motion by Representative Cullerton to table Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1629."

"On that Motion, Representative Cullerton. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1631, Representative Giorgi. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1644. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1664, Representative Oblinger. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1691, Representative Steczo. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1691, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Credit Union Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions. No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1692, Representative Cullerton. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1707. Out of the record. For what reason does the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Fiel, rise?"

"Yes, could we back up to 1691? We never moved that to Third Reading. You said there was no Floor Amendments and then we just went onto the next Bill."

"Yes, we did, Representative. It was moved to Third Reading."

"Fine, as long as it was moved to Third Reading I got no problems, but I didn't hear Third Reading."

"No it went to Third Reading. The Chair recognizes the Lady from DuPage, Representative Karpiel."

"Yes, thank you, Madam Speaker, on a point of personal privilege. I know this is against the rules, but I would like to introduce the Pfizer Management Team that are up in the balcony up there that are here to celebrate their 5th... their 5th annual Springfield Hospitality Day. And they do invite all Legislators to join them this evening."

"Representative Karpiel, that is against the 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 rules. However, since you've already done it. House Bill 1725 (sic - Senate Bill 1725), Representative Homer. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1725, a Bill for an Act in relation to victims of violence and abuse. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1, 2 and 3 were adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 17... House Bill 1727 (sic - Senate Bill 1727). Out of the record. House Bill 1733 (sic - Senate Bill 1733). Out of the record. House Bill 1743 (sic - Senate Bill 1743), Representative Terzich. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1743, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act in relation to compensation of Members of the General Assembly. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Terzich, amends Senate Bill 1743 on page four line 24 by deleting 'January 9, 1985' and inserting in lieu thereof 'July 1, 1984'. Representative Terzich, on Amendment #1... 2 on Amendment 2."

"Yes, Madam Speaker, Amendment #2 simply changes the effective date from January 1, 1989 (sic - 1985) to the fiscal year starting July 1, 1984, and I would move for its adoption."

"Is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Kane, Representative Kirkland. Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1743 be adopted?'" 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEВАТЕ 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 All those in favor say 'aye', all opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Third Reading. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1746, Representative Hoffman. Cut of the record. Senate Bill 1747. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1790, Representative Jaffe - Representative Dunn. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1793, Representative Cullerton. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1794, Representative Topinka. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1794, a Bill for an Act in relation to the offense of aggravated fleeing or attempting to elude a police officer. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"A Motion to table Amendment #1 by Representative Cullerton."

"Representative Cullerton, on a Motion to table Amendment #1. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1803, Representative Pierce. Representative Fierce? Senate Bill 1803, do you wish to have your Bill heard? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1811, Representative Saltsman. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1811, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Motions filed?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Representative Saltsman, amends Senate Bill 1811 on page one, line one and so forth."

"Representative Saltsman, on Amendment #1."

"Yes, Madam Speaker, I'd like to withdraw Amendment 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day #1." June 13, 1984

"Amendment #1 is withdrawn. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, by Representative Friedrich."

"Representative Friedrich, on Amendment #2."

"Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, this Amendment merely permits schools to lease parochial schools, which they are doing now, but it would permit them to use the building fund money as opposed to operating money. And as far as I know there is no opposition to it. We did have some opposition to a previous one because it said public buildings, and there was some opposition because they said that could include legion halls and everything else. But this limits it to public schools and parochial schools. I move the adoption of the Amendment."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2. Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, Friedrich."

"Madam Chairman (sic - Madam Speaker), was #1 tabled?"

"Amendment #1 was withdrawn."

"Amendment #1 was withdrawn."

"I would like to withdraw #3."

"Amendment #3 is withdrawn. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, Hallock, amends Senate Bill 1811 on page one by deleting line one and two."

"The Gentleman from Winnebago, on Amendment #4."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. This Amendment merely allows some schools to give land or, I 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 should say, lease land to municipalities, land that is not being used. We have a situation in my district whereby some vacant schools are being used by the cities which are not for profit, of course, and this would allow this to be done. And I would ask for your support."

"Is there any discussion on Amendment #4. There being none, the question is, "Shall Amendment #4 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye, opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1845, Representative McGann. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1850, Representative Madigan. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1853, Representative McGann. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1855, Representative Nelson. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1857, Representative DeJaegher. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1864, Representative Vinson. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1873, Representative Oblinger. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1875, Representative Countryman. Representative Countryman? Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1875, a Bill for an Act to create grant in aid programs to link the techno... technological..."

"Any Motions filed?"

"...of the state's universities with research and development needs for small businesses. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions. No Floor Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments? No Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments." 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1883, Representative Waite. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1883, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act creating attorneys' liens and for enforcement of same in the Illinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Representative Waite, amends Senate Bill 1883 as amended as follows and so forth."

"Representative Waite, the Gentleman from Boone, on Amendment #2."

"Yes, Amendment #2 simply deletes minors from the award that would have to maybe be given back to the Department of... for the minors given for... Public Aid. We simply want to leave this off because this was not the intent to put this in in the first place."

"Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, Johnson, amends Senate Bill 1883 as amended as follows and so forth."

"Representative Johnson, on Amendment #3. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Representative Johnson? Representative Waite, what is your pleasure with regard to this Amendment?"

"I guess we can hold it until he gets back."

"Out of the record. This Bill will be held on Second Reading as amended. Senate Bill 1888, 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day Representative Nash. Out of the record. Representative Terzich. June 13, 1984 Senate Bill 1889, Out of the record. Representative Terzich. Representative Terzich, on Senate Bill 1889. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1925, Representative Flinn Representative Levin. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1925, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relation to rules and powers of various state agencies. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1, 2 and 3 were adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, Levin and Flinn, amends Senate Bill 1925 on page one by adding after line 32 the following and so forth."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Levin, on Amendment #4."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1925 is the omnibus Joint Committee on Administrative Rule Bill, and Amendment #4 is an Amendment agreed to by the Department of Law Enforcement and the Illinois Criminal Justice Information Authority. And what it does is to provide that the ... the Authority, rather than the Department of Law Enforcement, shall establish rules to allow individuals to review criminal history record information which is held by the Department. In addition, the Amendment allows the Authority to establish reasonable fees for such reviews and also allows the Authority to establish rules regarding the correction of such information."

"Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, Shall Amendment #4 be adopted? All those in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the 76  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Chair, the 'ayes" have it. The Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?" June 13, 1984

"Floor Amendment #5, Levin and Flinn, amends Senate Bill 1925 on page one, in line two and so forth."

"The Gentleman from Cook."

"Continuing as the spokesman for law enforcement, Amendment #5 is proposed by the Department of Law Enforcement and provides that the Superintendent of Police shall be appointed by the Director of the Department rather than by the Governor. This is also supported by the Governor. This is... the Superintendent of State Police is the only Deputy Director that is not currently appointed by the Director, and one of the results of this is that he earns a different salary level. It is supported by the Police Lodge and by the Governor as well as by the Department."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #5 is there any discussion? There being none the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it, the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #6, Levin and Flinn, amends House Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1925 on page five, line five and so forth."

"Withdraw Amendment #6."

"Amendment #6 is withdrawn. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #7, Levin and Flinn, amends Senate Bill 1925 with reference to the page and line numbers in House Amendment #1 and sc forth."

"Representative Levin."

"Yes, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 this Amendment simply clarifies that the Department of Public Health shall inspect nursing homes. We've adopted similar Amendment on the Speaker's Nursing Home Reform Act."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #7 is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1935, Representative Madigan. Representative Currie. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1935, a Bill for an Act concerning long-term care facilities and amending certain Acts herein named. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Motions filed... No, any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Topinka and Cowlishaw, amends Senate Bill 1935 on page two by deleting line nine and so forth."

"On Amendment #1, Representative Topinka."

"Yes, Madam Chairman (sic - Speaker), I would like to withdraw Amendments 1 and 2, please."

"Amendments 1 and 2 are withdrawn. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1939, Representative Barnes. Representative Barnes? The Lady from Cook... The Clerk will read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1939, a Bill for an Act creating the Illinois Health and Hazardous Substance Registry Act. 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill... Senate Bill 1940, Representative Barnes. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1940, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1941, Representative Barnes. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1941, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relation to environmental protection. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1946, Representative Barnes. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1946, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?" 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. With leave of the House we will return to Senate Bill 1707, Representative Cullerton. Is there leave? Mr. Clerk, read the Fill."

"Senate Bill 1707, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to provide for the regulation and administration of trusts by trust companies. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Motions filed... I mean any Floor Amendments?"

"No Committee Amendments and no Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. With leave of the House we will return to Senate Bill 1884... I'm sorry 1883, Representative Waite. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1883, this Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendments #1 and 2 were adopted."

"The Gentleman from... Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, Johnson, amends Senate Bill 1883 as amended as follows on page nine by deleting line 17 through 19 and so forth."

"The Gentleman from Champaign, Representative Johnson, on Amendment #3."

"Yes, thank you, Mr. (sic Madan) Speaker, Members of the House. I've talked to the Sponsor about this. It's an agreed Amendment. It simply restores the Bill or restores the last paragraph of the Bill to the way it was before... before the proposed changes. I don't think it's controversial. It has to do with the Wrongful Death Act, and I move its adoption."

"Is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays." 80  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984

"I just look like Mays. I'm just using his thing here."

"Is there any discussion? The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #3. All in favor say aye, opposed say 'nay. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. The House will be at ease for a moment. We will now return to the Order of Second Reading, appropriation bills, on page six on the Calendar. House Bill 1559 (sic Senate Bill 1559). Out of the record. House Bill 1560 (sic Senate Bill 1560). Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1560, a Bill for an Act to making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Office of the State Fire Marshal. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?#"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Amendment #2 was withdrawn in Committee. Floor Amendment #3, Saltsman, amends Senate Bill 1560 as amended on page one, line 11 and so forth."

"The Gentleman from Peoria, Representative Saltsman, on Amendment #3."

"Yes, Madam Speaker, what this Amendment does is it puts back in some of the project that the State Fire Marshals wanted in the beginning that was cut cut and what it will do. It is not putting back in everything that was there, but we think it is something that will be agreeable to the Director of the Budget and the Governor's Office. And we think that he will accept this Amendment."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 Amendment #3 is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Piel."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, will the Gentleman yield for a question please?"

"He's indicated he will."

"Representative, first of all if this Amendment goes on the Bill what are we talking about total increase costs?"

"Approximately $124,000."

"Thank you very much."

"Is there any further discussion? There being none, the Gentleman has moved... There being none the question is, Shall Amendment #3 be adopted?" All in favor say 'aye', opposed say "nay". In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it, the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1561, Representative Barnes. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1561, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the General Assembly Retirement System. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1563, Representative Barnes. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1563, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Judges' Retirement System. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1570, Representative 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984 Barnes. Mr. Clerk, read the Pill."

"Senate Bill 1570, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Mines and Minerals. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1 and 2 were adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment... Amendment #3 was withdrawn in Committee. No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Eill 1571. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1578, Representative Farnes. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1578, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the State Employees' Retirement System. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. For what purpose does Representative Bowman rise?"

"Thank you, Madan Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I just wish to announce for the benefit of the Members of the Appropriations II and anyone who has an interest in legislation in our Committee that we will meet immediately following adjournment. We recessed the morning meeting because we didn't have time to here all the Bills, and we will meet immediately upon adjournment in Room 118. My understanding is that we will be adjourning very soon and SO the Members... I wish the Members of the Appropriations Committee to take heed and be prepared to

83 Speaker Braun: "I'd like to remind the Members of the House that we have moved through almost all of the Calendar today. Those Bills which were not called were not called in many instances because Amendments are not yet ready to be heard. I'd encourage the Membership to have your Amendments ready so that we may shorten our work time and calmly get through this end of Session. So if you have any... if you have a Bill that you think you can move, please try to get it moved tomorrow so that we can clear the Calendar up. So that we can conclude our business. The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Rinnebago for purposes of an announcement or the Adjournment Resclution."

"Madam Speaker, do you want to read the Agreed Resolution before we adjourn?"

"Yes, we do. Mr. Clerk."

"Bouse Besolution #1043."

"House Resolution 1043, Kirkland - Karpiel."

"The Gentleman from Winnebago, Representative Giorgi."

"Nadam Speaker, House Resolution 1043 by Kirkland Karpiel, honors the Pfizer Incorporated Corporation for their world-wide success. They have... They employ 41,000 people throughout the world and operate 142 production facilities in 43 nations. I move for the adoption of the Agreed Resolution." 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All in favor... All in favor of the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions say 'aye, opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes have it, the Resolutions are adopted."

"Madam Chairman, does the Clerk need any perfunctory time?"

"Representative Giorgi, we'd like you to hold the Adjournment Resolution for a moment. Representative Nash has requested leave of the House to return to the Order of Second Readings for purposes of hearing Senate Bill 1888. Is there any objection? There being none, Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1888, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Banking Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Winnebago, Representative Giorgi."

"Madam Speaker, I move that the House do now adjourn until tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m.... 9:00 a.m. Thursday morning."

"Allowing five minutes for Perfunctory Session, the House will adjourn until 9:00 a.m. Wednesday morning... Thursday morning. All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes have it. The House stands adjourned until 9:00 tomorrow morning."

"If I can have your attention Members of the House and the softball members, we're going to have practice this afternoon at 4:30 at the normal park where we do have, about two blocks west of the Capitol, 4:30 softball practice. Thank you." 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 13, 1984

"Committee Report. Representative Bowman..."

"Yes, Ladies and Gentlemen, I just want to make a report. The total receipts for the Poppy Day sales were $342.77, which I'm very grateful, but it was a little bit less than what we had done in the past. I hope we'll improve on it next year. Jack Davis made a donation of $10. Myron Kulas gave a donation of 10 and Tommy Lyons gave us 20. Thank you one and all. Thank you."

"Further Committee Reports. Representative Bowman, Chairman of the Committee on Appropriations II, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken June 13, 1984 and reported the same back with the following recommendation: 'do pass as amended' Senate Bills 1550, 1557, 1575, 1583, 1595, 1597 and 1574. Message from the Senate by Mr. Wright, Secretary. 'Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has concurred with the House of Bepresentatives in passage of a Bill of the following title, to wit; Senate Bill #2711, together with Senate Amendments #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10 and 11, passed by the Senate as amended June 13, 1984. Kenneth Wright, Secretary.' Further Committee Reports. Representative Leverenz, Chairman of the Committee on Appropriations I, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken June 13, 1984 and reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' Senate Bills 1460, 1474, 1510, 1513, 1546, 1553, 1562, 1564, 1567, 1572, 1577, 1579, 1581, 1582, 1586, 1587 and 1656; 'do pass as amended' Senate Bills 1450, 1534, 1541, 1547, 1548, 1554, 1558, 1566, 1576, 1649 and also Senate Bill 1551 on the 'do pass as amended'. No further business, the House now stands adjourned." 86