"The House will be in order. Members will be in their seats. The Chaplain for today will be the Reverend Simon A. Simon, Pastor of the First United Presbyterian Church of Jerseyville, which is celebrating their 150th anniversary year this year. Reverend Simon is a guest of Representative Tom Ryder. Will the guests in the gallery please rise for the invocation?"
"I suppose you've heard by this time what happened - I think it was in the Colorado Legislature - when they were voting on an appropriation for an increase in their salaries, and it was going to be such an overwhelming vote that many of the Legislators decided at the to end to switch to a 'no' vote so they could tell their constituents that they voted 'no', and too many of them switched and defeated the proposal. Was that yesterday? I'm sure there's a message in there more meaningful to you than to me. My appreciation to Tom Ryder for making this opportunity possible. My father was a local politician of some stature in Omaha, Nebraska, for many years, and through that, I've come to appreciate the kind of work you are doing. I also have had a quiet ambition over the years to do similar work, and one day, I hope that something like that might be possible, and if, in any way, I can be of any service to the Representatives of the state, I would welcome the opportunity. In our time of prayer this morning, I'm attempting to focus on some of the elements of faith which we might hold in common, given our diverse religious backgrounds. I hope that this will be more than a routine experience for you. It is certainly not a routine experience for me, as it is the first time I have had the privilege of addressing Legislators in prayer. Will you please join with me now in prayer? Almighty God, 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 You have plans for this state and more than plans. You have given resources, energies and the power to make plans happen. On this day, we pray, please give these Legislators, executives and staff a knowledge of Your will and a great desire to bring Your will to pass. Let them remember that they serve a public trust, and may they combine their abilities and their energies for the well-being of all Your people. Give to them, we pray, a consuming commitment to what is right and fair and just. In Thy holy name we pray. Amen."
"Representative Ropp will lead us in the pledge to the flag."
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
"Roll Call for Attendance. Alright. Alright. Ladies and Gentlemen, if it is your intention to nonconcur... to nonconcur with Bills that are on the Order of Concurrence, come to the well. There will be a list available for you to mark down, so that we may call the Bills in which there is to be nonconcurrence in some order, and it will be here. We're going to be having a presentation at this time, and there will be a sheet here at the well. So, if you are going to nonconcur, please advise us. Thank you. Mr. Clerk, take the record. There are 118 Members being present, and a quorum is present. Are there any... Mr. Piel? Message from the Senate."
"A Message from the Senate by Mr. Wright, Secretary. 'Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has concurred with the House in passage of Bills of the following title, together with Amendments: House Bills 2600, 2605, 3041, 1474, 3957, 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 3060 and 2556 passed the Senate as amended June 25, 1984. Kenneth Wright, Secretary.'"
"We are joined this morning by the Morton Potters, the 1984 AA state baseball champs. Representative Koehler in the Chair."
"Thank you very much, Representative Greiman, and thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen, for allowing us the opportunity to honor these young people. It is always a pleasure to honor young people in their academic and their athletic achievements. And the Morton Potters High School baseball team won the 1984 State AA Baseball Championship this year, right here in Springfield. This is their first state championship that they have brought home to the Morton community. In doing that, they defeated Belleville West, Taylorville and Burbank Reavis, and in earning their championship title, the team broke so many records that they almost broke a record for breaking records. And perhaps the Clerk will read the Resolution that talks about their accomplishments."
"House Resolution 1105, offered by Representative Koehler. Whereas, personal excellence, consistent striving towards a mutual goal, and the very best sportsmanship characterize the exceptional success of Morton High School Potters in capturing the Class AA State Baseball Championship this season; and whereas, the Morton Potters captured numerous tournament records on their way to becoming state champions, including an all-time tournament record of 46 hits, a remarkable batting average of .474, which overwhelmed the previous tournament average of .388, and a record-breaking 45 runs scored, and 36 hits batted in; and whereas, in addition to setting all state tournament records, the Potters also became the first Morton High School baseball team to ever capture the state 3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 title, and the first Peoria area team to do so in 16 years; and whereas, each member of the Morton Potters baseball team contributed to the team's phenomenal success, including Kurt Hummel, who was named the most valuable player of the tournament; and whereas, these young men are a source of pride to the community of Morton, to their school, to their families and friends, and indeed, to everyone who recognizes and appreciates such qualities as determination, fairness and excellence; and whereas, the fine display of athletic powers, strength of character, team spirit and good sportsmanship exhibited by the Morton Potters should be an example for each of us to follow; now therefore, be it resolved by the House of Representatives of the 83rd General Assembly of the State of Illinois that we do hereby honor, commend and extend our sincere congratulations to the Morton High School Potters for their outstanding state tournament win; and be it further resolved that we applaud their sportsmanship, athletic excellence and team character so ably developed by their fine coach, Mike McDonald, and be it further resolved that suitable copies of this Resolution and Preamble be presented to the Morton High School, Coach Mike McDonald, and to each member of the Morton team... Morton Potters' team."
"All those in favor of the Resolution signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' prevail, and the Resolution is adopted."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. While we have the opportunity, I would just like to introduce those members of the team who were able to be present today, including their head coach, Mr. Mike McDonald, Doug Flusser. Perhaps you might each wave your hand as I introduce you. Doug Flusser, the pitcher; Tim 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Taylor, pitcher and outfielder; Sam Kent, the catcher; Todd Hummel, who is an... the outfielder and on the all-tournament team; and Kirk Hummel, the first baseman and most valuable player. I might mention that... Now, did I get that correct? Is it Kirk or Todd? Yeah. Kirk. Okay, and the most valuable player award was given this year because he set an all-time record of three home runs in the tournament, tied the all-time homer mark for a single game with two against Taylorville, and had eight RBI's and a .417 batting average. Perhaps some of you on the House softball team would like to have him as a member of your team, right? Okay, the other members are Steve Brusso, an outfielder; Rich Melton, the shortshop; Larry Lomolino, outfielder; and John Hostetler, designated the hitter and outfielder. And Mr. Wayne Newland, the Superintendent of Schools, is here also, and would perhaps like to say a few words to you. Okay, may I recognize Representative Saltsman first?"
"Yes, thank you, Representative Koehler. Being from the district next to Morton, I want to also congratulate you, and I know all the Peoria teams are proud of the accomplishment you made, even though you did knock our favorites off. But we still appreciate what Morton did for central Illinois, and I know the team, with their spirit and with their desire to win, takes after their coach, because I competed for many years against him in the Peoria-Pekin area. And if you follow his footsteps, you'll be back again. Congratulations."
"Thank you."
"I just... On behalf of this team and our school, I wish to express appreciation for the opportunity to be here. I would also like to point out that these young men represent the student body at Morton High, one of the fine 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 schools in the State of Illinois, for which you've been debating and talking about regarding financing. Just keep that in mind as you continue. Thank you very much."
"Thank you very much, Ladies and Gentlemen, and while we do all recognize that we have many fine individuals here, I think they would be the first to tell you that it, of course, was a team effort that helped them to beat Burbank Reavis, and I believe that Burbank Beavis is in Representative McGann's district, and perhaps he might have a few words of consolation for his team - for the... for the wonderful accomplishments of the Morton High School team. Mr. McGann."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the Assembly. Reavis is not in my district. It is in our great Speaker's district, the Michael J. Madigan district. But I am very familiar and very supportive of Reavis High School. We're good losers, and we applaud the winners' tremendous job. Well done."
"Thank you, Representative McGann. I am sorry that I was under the mistaken impression that it was in your district, but the victory is even more sweet it it is in the Speaker's district. Thank you."
"Representative Greiman in the Chair. Thank you very much for joining us this morning. We'll stand at ease for a few moments. For the newly arrived, a list of Bills where the Sponsor desires to nonconcur - nonconcur is being compiled. If you will come to the well and give the number of your Bill, it will be on a list for nonconcurrence. Thank you. Agreed Resolutions."
"House Resolution 1101, Curran; 1111, Madigan - Christensen; 1112, Pangle; and 1113, Pangle."
"On the Agreed Resolutions, the Gentleman from Lake, Representative Matijevich." 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. Resolution 1101, Curran, congratulates the Den Chili Parlor on its relocation and expansion. Speaker Madigan, on House Resolution 1111, congratulates Simon Rosenberg for receiving a degree from Northwestern at the age of 72 years. 1112, Pangle, commends the Crescent City Arrowcrest 4-H Club. 1113, Pangle, designates July 20th as Illinois POW-MIA Recognition Day. I move the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."
"The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich, has moved for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Death Resolutions."
"House Resolution 1114, offered by Representative White, with respect to the memory of Mrs. Sarah Sess."
"The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich, moves for the adoption of House Resolution 1114. All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Resolution is adopted. Representative Vitek on a matter of personal privilege."
"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, yesterday we passed a Resolution honoring our former seatmate, Congressman John Fary, and with the help of Jack O'Brien and Kenneth Wright and the Members of the Senate, we were successful in adding all the House Members, and especially those that served with John Fary to the Resolution. So, rather than going around to each one of you, I thought I'd ask for this point of personal privilege to let you know your names will be on the Resolution, and I thank the Speaker, I thank Jack O'Brien, I thank Kenny Wright and the Members of the Senate for allowing this 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 privilege to all the House Members. Thank you very much."
"Thank you, Representative Vitek. In a moment or two, we'll be moving to the Order of Business, Senate Bills Second Reading, in which are appropriations on the Order of Second Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading, appears Senate Bill 1386. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1386, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Capital Development Board for the Board of Trustees of Southern Illinois University at Carbondale. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Bowman."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman."
"Leave to withdraw Amendment 1."
"Amendment #1 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1450. Mr. Leverenz, do you wish to proceed? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1450, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Department of Transportation for expenditure by the Division of Water Resources. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 and 2 were adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"A Motion to table Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1450, by Representative Leverenz."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz, on a Motion to table."
"I ask leave to withdraw that Motion." 8 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"The Gentleman from Cook withdraws the Motion to table Amendment #2. Are there further Amendments... Floor Amendments? The Motion is withdrawn. Yes, Mr. Panayotovich, for what purpose... no... alright."
"Floor Amendment #3, Giorgi."
"The Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Giorgi. Mr. Giorgi, on Amendment #3. The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Giorgi, on Amendment 3."
"Mr. Speaker, Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 1450 has to do with the bridge that connects Highway 51, which is a state highway, and Highway 2, which is also a state highway, and I've cleared this with the appropriate Department heads, and they're all in agreement. This appropriates $300,000 to the Department of Transportation for repair work on the Riverside Boulevard Bridge over the Rock River in Loves Park. This connects those two highways, and I urge the adoption of the Amendment."
"The Gentleman from Winnebago moves for the adoption of Amendment 3 to Senate Bill 1450. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #4, Johnson - Woodyard."
"The Gentleman from Champaign, Mr. Johnson. Mr. Johnson, on Amendment #4."
"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, this, I think, is an agreed Amendment. It has to do with a line item reduction in the amount of approximately 49,000 dollars. I move its adoption."
"Gentleman from Champaign moves for the adoption of Amendment #4 to Senate Bill 1450. Is there any 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."
"Will the... Would the Gentleman yield?"
"He indicates he'll yield for a question."
"Yes, Sir, I will."
"Would you explain that a little more in detail as to what the Amendment does?"
"Well, it has... it has to do... reduction... line item reduction in an amount precisely equal to the salary of the Director of the Division of Water Resources. Representative Woodyard and I, Representative Stuffle, have had a real problem with the Director, in terms of not allowing some of our constituents to clean out a stream. So, we want to get a message to the Director."
"To the Amendment then, I think it's a good Amendment, and we can send a strong message to the head of that bureau and would ask everyone to vote 'aye'."
"Further discussion? Gentleman from Effingham, Mr. Brummer."
"Yes, will the Sponsor yield?"
"Indicates he'll yield for questions."
"Is the Director Mr. Vonnahme? What is the... I guess I'm a little surprised at the difficulty, because I've always found him to be a rather cooperative individual. What's the... What's the nature of the difficulties..."
"We found him to be a totally uncooperative individual. We have had a project pending for farmers simply to clear out a stream called Deer Creek that flows in between Douglas and Coles County. Farmers have had their crops flooded out for a couple of years, and we've run through the most incredible bureaucratic snags all rooted in that Department that you could ever imagine. Representative Leverenz has been very, very good to us and tried to serve his good offices in terms of getting a... some action from 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 the Division on what's a very, very simple thing. Everybody..."
"What have you needed from him, a permit?"
"From the... Yeah, we need a permit from the Division of Water Resources. All the other relevant Departments have said okay."
"Okay. Thank you."
"EPA said okay. Department... Department... Three different entities have said okay, everybody but this Division. And sometimes there's only one way you can get a message across."
"Thank you."
"Further discussion? Gentleman from Will, Mr. Davis."
"Well, I'm going to speak in opposition to the Amendment simply because we all use this strategy from time to time to get the attention of a Director. This particular Director, along with Representative Brummer, I've probably spent 500 hours of my life with this guy over a flood control project in Will County. I've found him to be not only the most responsive, but the most creative and innovative Director of that Department that I've ever seen. And I think that the message is good; but, with the three guys that you're talking about here trying to get through to him, I guarantee you your message is well heard. And all you're going to do is you know damn well that the Amendment will be stripped off in a Conference Committee or later on. It won't stay on the Bill or be vetoed by the Governor or whatever. So, I think your message is there. And if you want to withdraw it, Representative Johnson, I'll be glad to help you with Don Vonnahme to make sure you get what you want done. I think this is silly."
"Gentleman from Vermilion, Mr. Stuffle." 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"We appreciate Representative Davis' remarks. Representative Johnson's carried the ball on this issue since it affects his district directly in Douglas County, but I can assure you that despite the fact I don't represent that district at all anymore. We've been flooded with calls and letters and requests from... from effected people just to the end that Representative Johnson indicated here; that they've not been responsive to his requests or the requests of the individuals involved. And I think you have to send them some sort of a message. If he can't get the message through the Legislator that works in that district very effectively and through Representative Woodyard and through our office and other offices, and particularly Representative Johnson, I think you've got a problem, and you've got to address it. Obviously, the age-old way to address it is here on the floor of the House and stop the buck here and work through the appropriations process. And if they don't like it, too bad. I would ask for an 'aye' vote on the Amendment."
"Gentleman from Will, Mr. Van Duyne."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I... You know, it's amusing when you hear Representative Davis get up there and chide the... chide the Body for its silliness. And, you know, I don't understand him, because the comments he made were all true. But the trouble is that Representative Davis, at that time, was the winner. He and another fellow that was very well known to this House scuttled a 12 or a 13 year process in the very town that we live in in favor of a little, bitty, boonie town out in Mokena that Representative Davis represents out there and at the expense of about six to ten thousand people living across... around Hickory and Spring Creek in Will County. Now if I can take away Representative... I mean, the . 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Director Vonnahme's whole salary, you know, it would absolutely serve him right, and I intend to give him a resounding 'aye' vote on this Amendment."
"Mr. Davis, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"My name was mentioned in debate, Mr. Speaker, and I take somewhat umbrage at my distinguished colleague from the other side who is obviously a very poor loser; but, in losing, he became a winner and saved the taxpayers of Will County some three million dollars in so doing on a wrong embarked project that he had been working on for 12 years and could not get done but is now underway. So, I would just admonish the Gentleman that personalities should not be involved in this, I don't think..."
"He's admonished. Alright. Lady from Champaign, Ms. Satterthwaite."
"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I, too, rise in support of this Amendment. What we have found in the process of trying to deal with these issues of clearance of drainage ditches in farmland is that there are no rules and regulations on file by the Department that even can be used as guidelines. And so, when the engineering companies go in and suggest the remedy, that can be overruled, because there's nothing on record that shows how these projects will be approved or disapproved. I don't believe that it is our intention as a Legislative Body to give any state agency complete control without going on record for the guidelines that will be used on these projects. And for that reason, I think that we should pass this Amendment to give that message to the Department."
"The Gentleman from Edgar, Mr. Woodyard. Mr. Woodyard." 13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do also rise in support of the Amendment. I realize that... that this may not stay on the Bill in its final passage stage, but certainly this is one way to send a message to some people who have been nonresponsive to a group of people, particularly in Representative Johnson's district. The permit desired by those people to clean out a simple creek also runs down into my district in Coles County. And... Well, as my opponent here says, 'And a Democratic township'. So, I urge all of your support on this Amendment."
"The Gentleman from DeWitt, Mr. Vinson."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Assembly. I think the point here... I think we're getting off track a little bit. Obviously, in some instances, the gentleman does cooperate, and obviously, in other instances, the two honorable Members of this Assembly, with great integrity, have indicated the gentleman has failed to cooperate. And I don't see any reason why where, in an instance, he has failed to cooperate, that this Assembly can't send a message. And so I would urge an 'aye' vote on the Gentleman's Amendment."
"There being no further discussion, the Gentleman from Champaign, Mr. Johnson, to close."
"Well, I really appreciate the comments and help of people here on both sides of the aisle, Representative Leverenz and Satterthwaite, Stuffle, Woodyard, Vinson and so forth. This... This has been a real frustrating process. For two and a half or three years, farmers' fields all over southern Douglas and northern Coles County, primarily in Douglas, are being flooded out because of a credible amount of obstructions in a stream. In fact, there's probably... probably the stream's not even under the jurisdiction of the Department of Transportation, 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 because it's probably not going to be considered by the courts to be a navigable waterway. We have tried every conceivable way. They have had to spend money for lawyers, substantial amounts of money for engineers. A number of drainage districts and farmers are all involved in this project for that length of time, and all they've gotten, as a result of their continued trying to go along with the system, is one more letter, one more letter, one more request, one more laundry list of things that... that this one entity says has to be complied with, even though every other governmental entity, federal, state and local across the board, have approved the project. Now, maybe on other projects this gentleman is a cooperative individual, and I'm sure that in the long run, he's going to keep his job. But I'll guarantee you on this project, and everybody involved in the project will tell you, he's been anything but cooperative. He's absolutely obstructionist, rude to me as a Legislator, and I don't know about the other ones. He certainly has treated me as though I don't have any business talking to him about it, and I resent that. I think that when we come here to represent our constituents and try to keep our farmers' fields from being flooded out, that we ought to at least be listened to. And I don't think that's happened. I realize that this process is one of helping one another out, and I sincerely appreciate people on both sides of the aisle being willing to use this mechanism that we had to try to help some of our constituents out and to try to prevent our fields from being flooded by acres and acres and acres. And I urge a 'yes' vote."
"Question is, 'Shall Amendment #4 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair... In the opinion of the Chair, 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #5, offered by Representative Homer."
"The Gentleman from Fulton, Mr. Homer."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Leave to withdraw Amendment #5. I'm asking for leave to withdraw."
"Yes. Amendment #5 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #6, offered by Representative Wolf."
"The Gentleman from Madison, Mr. Wolf."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Amendment #6 is an Amendment that would make an appropriation of $300,000 from the anti-pollution bond fund of the Environmental Protection Agency to a community in Madison County, for the purpose of assisting that community in replacing sewer lines which have been devastated by a high water table. When the original sewer lines were put in in this area, heavy industry in that area was using deep well pumps, which had the effect of keeping the water table well below the danger point. Several years ago, heavy industry in that area went to a direct line into the Mississippi River, stopped using their deep well pumps, and this had the effect of raising the water table to the point where all of the sewer lines in that area have been crumbling and breaking. They are now in the process of replacing these lines with plastic lines. They have spent over $2,000,000 up to this point, but now, they need a little assistance from the state to help them in doing the job that they're trying to do. I would ask your support of the Amendment."
"The Gentleman from Madison has moved for the 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 adoption of Amendment 6. On that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #6 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #7, offered by Representative Satterthwaite."
"The Lady from Champaign, Ms. Satterthwaite."
"Leave to withdraw Amendment #7, please."
"Pardon?"
"Leave to withdraw Amendment #7."
"Amendment #7 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #8, offered by Representative Homer."
"The Gentleman from Fulton, Mr. Homer."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. Amendment #8 would appropriate $40,000 from the Grade Crossing Protection Fund to DOT for the purpose of implementing and installing railroad crossing signals in... on East Chestnut and East Elm Streets in Canton, Illinois, necessitated by a change in traffic direction from one-way to two-way streets, as a result of the closing of International Harvester. And I would ask for your approval."
"The Gentleman from Fulton moves for the adoption of Amendment #8 to Senate Bill 1450. On that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #8 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?" 17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Floor Amendment #9, offered by Representative Satterthwaite."
"The Lady from Champaign, Ms. Satterthwaite."
"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, this is an Amendment for $150,000 from the road fund to be appropriated for a road that belongs to the University of Illinois and is currently in the process of being repaired. We know of no other way to fund that, other than taking it from the road fund to reimburse the local government that is currently paying for that project, and I would ask for your support in this Amendment."
"The Lady from Champaign moves for the adoption of Amendment #9 to Senate Bill 1450. On that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #9 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #10, offered by Representative Panayotovich and Leverenz."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Panayotovich. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz. Leverenz."
"Thank you. Amendment #10 would add $5,000,000, appropriating it to the Capital Development Board for the Chicago Regional Port District for construction of the boat marina, the access road, ramps, parking lot, storm and sanitary sewers, the utilities to provide the water and electrical distribution, and right down to the landscape, and I would move for the adoption of Amendment #10."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz, moves for the adoption of Amendment #10 to Senate Bill 1450. On that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' All in 18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 favor signify by vote... by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1541. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1541, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the various legislative support agencies and the legislative commissions. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Keane."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Keane, on Amendment #2."
"Please withdraw Amendment #2."
"Amendment #2 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Leverenz."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The Amendment increases the ADP line item. It breaks out the funding for the Legislative Staff Intern Program and adds an effective date - a bit of a sunshine Amendment, and I would move for the adoption of Amendment #3."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz, moves for the adoption of Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 1541. On that, is there any discussion? There being none, the 19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1546. 1546. Mr. Nash. Mr... Would you like that called? Alright. Out of the record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1549. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1549, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Agriculture. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #2, 3, 5, 7, 9 and 10 were adopted in Committee."
"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Barnes. Oh, I'm sorry. Were there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #11, offered by Representative Hicks."
"The Gentleman from Jefferson, Mr. Hicks."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I'd like to withdraw... leave to withdraw Amendment #11."
"Amendment #11 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #12, offered by Representative Barnes and Leverenz."
"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Barnes."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment #12 to the Department of Agriculture Bill incorporates Amendment #2, 3, 5, 7, 9 and 10 that were adopted in Committee. The total is one million, one 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 hundred and seventy-three thousand dollars, two hundred. It's one million, twenty-three thousand, two hundred dollars in appropriations, and one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in reappropriations. To recap for the benefit of the Members, Amendment #2 was twenty-three thousand dollars for the tractor pull awards at the Illinois State Fair; Amendment #3 adds a hundred and six thousand, six hundred, for ethnic and cultural state fair events; Amendment #5 adds thirty thousand, two hundred dollars for the Galatin County Fair Association; Amendment #7 reappropriates a hundred and fifty thousand dollars for state entertainment. And as everybody knows, we must assure the entertainers that we do contract with, some funding up front and also a portion of the ticket sales realized at the fair. Amendment #9 adds five hundred and fifty thousand dollars for research and technical assistance for promotion of international trade, and Amendment #10 adds three hundred and thirteen thousand dollars, four hundred, to restore the Senate cut. If there aren't any questions, Mr. Speaker, I would ask for an 'aye' vote."
"The Lady from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment 12 to Senate Bill 1549. And on that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."
"The Amendment simply cleans up everything that we added in Committee, and I would hope that it would be adopted comfortably."
"There being no further discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #12 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #13, offered by Representative 21 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Hicks."
"The Gentleman from Jefferson, Mr. Hicks, on Floor Amendment 13."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment 13 is the same as Amendment 11 was, that was withdrawn. The only difference is that it takes the money out of the Ag Premium Fund and allows $2,500 for a premium in awards to be given at the state fair this summer during the rabbit breeding show. I'd ask for its approval."
"The Gentleman from Jefferson moves for the adoption of Amendment 13 to Senate Bill 1549. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #13 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment."
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1555. Mr. Hastert, do you wish to proceed with 1555? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1555, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Corrections. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1, 2, 3 and 5 were adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #6, offered by Representative Davis."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Davis, on Amendment 6. The Gentleman from Will. Mr. Davis."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment 6 adds $50,000 into the contractual 22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 service line for Stateville Penitentiary in my district in Will County, for medical services and ambulance services for that particular facility, and I would move for its adoption or answer any questions you might have."
"The Gentleman from Will has moved for the adoption of Amendment 6 to Senate Bill 1555. And on that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I have no objection to this Amendment. I urge its support."
"The Gentleman from Kendall, Mr. Hastert. The question is, 'Shall Amendment #6 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #7, offered by Representative Davis."
"The Gentleman from Will, Mr. Davis."
"Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. Amendment #7 adds $390,000 into the Department of Corrections budget, which is a shift from the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs, who formerly funded state's attorneys... additional state's attorneys in areas that have correctional centers in them. The state has been funding additional state's attorneys for obvious reasons in correctional centers, for about seven or eight years, now, and it has been funded out, for some unknown reason, out of the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs. There's a like amount reduction in their budget, and this is a transfer to Corrections, and I move for its adoption."
"The Gentleman from Will has moved for the adoption of Amendment 7 to Senate Bill 1555. And on that, 23 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Mr. Bowman."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The Gentleman is correct. There's no net increase to the budget. This is simply a more appropriate home for the money for these state's attorneys. I urge support by the whole House."
"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #7 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #8, offered by Representative Bowman."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment #8 reduces funding for the retirement contributions by 1.1 million dollars. If this Amendment is adopted, the payout ratio for retirement contributions will be 60 percent. This is the Governor's recommended level. We did approve a Bill yesterday to provide for amortizing the unfunded liability over a 30 year period. This Amendment is consistent with that legislation, and I believe that if we are to have a balanced budget this year, it is necessary to appropriate at this level, and that is why I move adoption of Amendment #8."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman, moves for the adoption of Amendment #8 to Senate Bill 1555. There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #8 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"No further Amendment."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills 24 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1557. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1557, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Emergency Services and Disaster Agency. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"
"A Motion to table Amendment #1, offered by Representative Klemm."
"Yes, Mr. Hastert, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Mr. Speaker, I would like to take this Bill, momentarily, out of the record."
"We'll take it out of the record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1565. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1565, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Law Enforcement. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1 and 2 were adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions with respect to the Amendments?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Amendment #3 lost in Committee. Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Woodyard."
"The Gentleman from Edgar, Mr. Woodyard, on Amendment #4."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Amendment #4 is the product of a lot of work and research over the past five or six months with members of the Underwater Search and Recovery Team of the State Police. Presently, we have 13 certified scuba divers on... that are 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 volunteers of the State Police. They furnish their own equipment. Amendment #4 would add $51,500 to the State Police budget to actually one-time purchase equipment for these teams. It would at least put their equipment in a consistent and compatible manner, which they don't have at this time. Many times when they arrive at the scene of an accident or where they have to dive, their equipment becomes torn or broken, and they cannot interchange. So this would at least allow the state to purchase equipment for these three teams. I would urge its adoption."
"The Gentleman from Edgar moves for the adoption of Amendment #4 to Senate Bill 1565. Is there any discussion? On that, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."
"Would the Gentleman yield to a question or three?"
"Indicates that he will."
"How many teams?"
"This would be enough equipment for three teams. It would be located in a northern region, central region and southern region."
"That makes sense. How many individuals to the team?"
"There would be approximately 25 certified divers, and I assume that they would... there would be approximately eight members - eight volunteers in each region."
"Three goes into 25 how many times? Eight?"
"Eight and a third."
"On your side of the aisle, it may. Could you tell me the total amount of dollars, now?"
"51,500."
"51,500. And these people are using their own equipment now?"
"Yes."
"So, that equipment will go unused, probably, if we buy 26 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 all this other equipment. Right? I mean, they're doing it volunteer, now. Right?"
"That's correct."
"Could you name a couple of the items that are in the four-figure category that we are purchasing with this 51,000? I mean the four-figure. Forget the pulleys and the $30 diving harness and the lift bag straps and the line ascenders and the three diving lights."
"We have the underwater metal detectors at $1,650; those lift bags that you mentioned at $1,800; the full face masks with wet communications in them, $2,400."
"Well, I've been asked to support it, so I guess I will. Thank you."
"Thank you."
"Further discussion?"
"I'm in the tank."
"There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #4 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #5, offered by Representative Leverenz."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz, on Amendment #5."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #5 restores $524,600 for the strategic anti-felony team, better known as the 'SS', or that's the KGB. I'm sorry. It would restore 14 special agents and support costs that have been eliminated by Committse Amendment #2. Now, the new level will enable the Department to maintain a 44-member team to be located in four command units, never to use the scuba gear, and I 27 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 would move for the adoption of the Amendment."
"The Gentleman from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment #5 to Senate Bill 1565. There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #5 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #6, offered by Representative Leverenz."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz, on Amendment #6."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The Amendment adds 101,700 in General Revenue Funds - we're trying to spend this money as fast as possible - to the Division of Support Services for the forensic science trainees. Hopefully, they'll not work any precincts. The trainees will be trained in one of eight disciplines, five that I can say, one of which that I cannot pronounce, and I would move for the adoption of the Amendment."
"The Gentleman from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment #5 to Senate Bill 1565. There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #5 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. That was Amendment #6. We're going to correct the board. Amendment #6 is adopted. Further Amendment."
"Floor Amendment #7, offered by Representative Leverenz."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz, on Amendment #7."
"Now that we've put all the general revenue in, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, we'll peel a 28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 little bit off. This would reduce retirement by 5.6 percent out of personal service line items to put the funding for retirement at 60 percent, and I would move for the adoption of the Amendment."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz, moves for the adoption of Amendment #7 to Senate Bill 1565. There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #7 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1557. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1557, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Emergency Services and Disaster Agency. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Is there any Motion with regard to Amendment #1?"
"A Motion to table Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1557, by Representative Klemm."
"The Gentleman from McHenry, Mr. Klemm."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I wonder if I could have leave of the House to make a Motion to table Amendment #1."
"Well, you have made a Motion to table. Is that right?"
"Yes."
"Alright, I'm calling you on... I'm recognizing you for that Motion to table."
"Oh, fine. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm sorry. I was speaking to some people next to me." 29 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"It's alright."
"Yes, Amendment #1 has been corrected with Amendments 2 and 3, so I'd ask leave that we table Amendment 1 to correct it..."
"The Gentleman from McHenry moves to table Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1557. On that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman."
"I just want to... Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I support the Gentleman's Motion, and we ought to table this and move the Bill along. Thank you."
"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 be tabled?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and Amendment #1 is tabled. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Barnes."
"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Barnes."
"I wish to table Amendment #2."
"That has not been adopted. Is that correct?"
"That is correct."
"Alright. So you'll withdraw Amendment #2. Amendment #2 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Klemm."
"The Gentleman from McHenry, Mr. Klemm, on Amendment #3."
"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. #3... Amendment #3 simply does, in the Bill, saying that the Emergency Service and Disaster Agency for grants to local emergency organizations will continue to go to the local authorities, rather than being, perhaps, allocated to other activities, and it's part of Amendment 1, and I do ask for its adoption."
"The Gentleman from McHenry, Mr. Klemm, moves 30 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 for the adoption of Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 1557. Mr. Bowman."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Amendment makes no dollar change in the budget, but it is useful clarifying language, and I urge its adoption."
"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Barnes."
"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Barnes."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment #4 to Senate Bill 1557 appropriates $24,600 to the State Emergency Service and Disaster Agency to enable the Agency to re-establish a regional office in 'ESDA' region 3, which was closed in Fiscal Year '84. The Federal Government will provide 50 percent reimbursement, $12,300 General Revenue Fund, and $12,300 federal funds; $10,800 for antenna and transmitter - just a one-time charge; $2,600, telephone installation and line charge; $200 one-time charge; $1,200, leased line to Oak Brook to connect new regional office to Springfield; $10,000 office rent. If there aren't any questions, I would ask for the adoption of this Amendment."
"The Lady from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment 4 to Senate Bill 1557. On that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The Amendment is exactly as the Lady describes it. It's a modest increase. I support it."
"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #4 be 31 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #5, offered by Representative Bowman."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a 7.2 thousand dollar reduction in the retirement line to fund the retirement at 60 percent of estimated payout. This is the Governor's recommendation, and I move the adoption of the Amendment."
"The Gentleman from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment #5 to Senate Bill 1557. There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #5 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1568. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1568, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Medical Center Commission. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Amendment #1 lost in Committee. Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Bowman."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 is a $1,000 reduction. Again, it would be consistent with the retirement policy that we established in the other Bills. I move its adoption." 32 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Alright. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman, moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1568. There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1571. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1571, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Pollution Control Board. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Vinson."
"The Gentleman from DeWitt, Mr. Vinson, on Amendment #1."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Assembly. Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1571 adds $258,000 to provide scientific and technical support to the Pollution Control Board for the Pollution Control Board's rule-making activity. The Amendment adds a scientific and technical support Section. The scientists will provide support to Board members relative to the complex rule-making requiring both scientific expertise and knowledge of highly specialized federal laws and regulations. I believe that Members of the Assembly on both sides of the aisle are pretty much in detail aware of the increased requirements we placed on the Board last year and this year, particularly in the area of hazardous waste. 33 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 What the Board would like to have is some scientific and technical support to arrive at these decisions, and I would move for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1571."
"The Gentleman from DeWitt moves for the adoption of Senate... of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1571. There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Leverenz."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 would decrease the appropriation for retirement lines by $2,700. I would move for the adoption of the Amendment."
"The Gentleman from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1571. There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1574. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1574, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Public Aid. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12 were adopted in Committee." 34 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Are there any Motions?"
"A Motion to table Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1574, offered by Representative Hannig."
"The Gentleman from Macoupin, Mr. Hannig, on a Motion to table. Do you wish to withdraw your... alright. The Motion to table will be withdrawn. Are there further Motions?"
"No further Motions."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #13, offered by Representative Saltsman."
"The Gentleman from Peoria, Mr. Saltsman. Mr. Saltsman on Amendment 13."
"Yes, there was a Motion to... to discharge Amendment #7 on this Bill. Yes, Mr. Speaker, Amendment #13 is similar to Amendment #7. This Amendment corrects a technical language oversight in Amendment #7. This Amendment will provide for the construction and operation of a Women's strength headquarters in Peoria. And when I spoke before this in Committee, the Amendment never had the word 'Peoria' in it. All this really does is put the word 'Peoria' into the Amendment, which should have been in #7. It's taking care of a technical error."
"The Gentleman from Peoria moves for the adoption of Amendment #13 to Senate Bill 1574. There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #13 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"Amendment #14, Vinson, amends Senate Bill 1574 as amended."
"The Gentleman from DeWitt, Mr. Vinson. Mr. Piel, for what purpose do you seek recognition?" 35 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Just a question of clarification, Mr. Speaker. Did we table Amendment #7... by 13?"
"No. No."
"Wouldn't we have to table #7 to be taken... if 13 was going to take place in it?"
"If I understood Mr. Saltsman's presentation correctly, he added the word 'Peoria', and adding the word 'Peoria' never puts anything out of order, so that it would be in order. Alright?"
"Well, you know, he was adding more than just 'Peoria' to it. See, that's what I was saying. It's basically the same as #7, but adding Peoria in there besides. So I think probably the best thing to do would be for 7 to be tabled. I mean, to be correct."
"Well, Mr. Piel, we're going to look at that for a moment. Apparently, there's some other movement afoot on Amendment 13. Alright. The Chair recognizes Mr. Saltsman."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I move to table Amendment #13."
"The Gentleman from Peoria moves to table Amendment #13 to Senate Bill 1574. On that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #13 be tabled?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and Amendment #13 is tabled. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #14, Vinson, amends Senate Bill 1574 as amended."
"The Gentleman from DeWitt, Mr. Vinson, on Amendment #14."
"What happened to putting 'Peoria' into the Bill?"
"Apparently, Amendment 13... it has been tabled by the Representative from Peoria. Is that... Are you on 36 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day - June 26, 1984 14, or do you want to discuss the other Bills, Mr. Vinson?"
"Well, if he signals me, it's okay. I just didn't want him strong armed on something for Peoria. If that's... If he's okay, I'm okay."
"You're okay, he's okay. Amendment 14, Mr. Vinson."
"I'll withdraw that."
"Amendment 14 is withdrawn. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #15, Hastert, amends Senate Bill 1574... "
"The Gentleman from Kendall, Mr. Hastert, on Amendment #15."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just a point of order on Amendment #13 and Amendment #7, what actually happened. The game plan was to withdraw 7 and adopt 13. Is that what happened, or what did we do, there?"
"No, I think 7 stands and 13 has been withdrawn... has been tabled. Not the first game plan to go astray. What is your pleasure on Amendment 15, Sir? Proceed. I'm recognizing you on Amendment 15."
"Thank you, Mr. Chairman (sic - Speaker). I ask for the adoption of Amendment #15. Amendment #15 deals with a... or, a 50 percent increase... 50 cent increase in funds to pharmacies for prescription filling, and it's been about seven years since they've had an increase in that area. I would ask for its positive... "
"The Gentleman from Kendall has moved for the adoption of Amendment #15 to Senate Bill 1574. There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #15 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and Amendment #15 is adopted. Further Amendments?" 37 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Floor Amendment #16, Slape, amends Senate Bill 1574 as amended."
"The Gentleman from Bond, Mr. Slape, on Amendment #16. Mr. Slape. Yes, Mr. Bowman, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"With leave of the House, I can handle this Amendment."
"Alright. Does Mr. Bowman have leave to handle Amendment #16? Alright. Mr. Bowman, you have leave. Mr. Bowman on Amendment #16."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Amendment is necessary because it was originally placed in the budget for Southern Illinois University, and an arrangement was worked out whereby it was shifted over to this budget. So, this is coming out of another budget and putting it in this budget. It's very much like Mr. Davis' Amendment earlier on the state's attorneys. I move its adoption."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman, moves for the adoption of Amendment 16 to Senate Bill 1574. And on that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from DeWitt, Mr. Vinson."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Assembly. I rise in opposition to Amendment #16 to Senate Bill 1574. It's an Amendment that should appropriately be considered in the Higher Education appropriation, not in the Public Aid appropriation, and if we're going to keep this process going in a deliberative fashion, we ought not be throwing Amendments out of everywhere onto Bills that appropriate for specific agencies and functions. The next thing we'll be seeing are commission Amendments and everything else. I would urge a 'no' vote on this and request a Roll Call."
"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Braun. Ms. Braun. 38 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Further discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman, to close."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'm really very disappointed in the Gentleman from DeWitt. After all, the... what we're doing here is precisely the same thing that one of his own members did with respect to the Department of Corrections' budget just a moment ago. We're trying to get these Bills in proper shape, and I don't know why he has any complaint about which particular budget this goes on. This Amendment was adopted to the SIU budget in Committee, and SIU and the Board of Higher Education specifically asked to have this Amendment placed on the Public Aid budget. So, if the cause of concern for the Representative from DeWitt is that we're putting this on the... that we're putting it on the wrong budget, that it should be over in Higher Ed, rest assured that we are doing this to respond to the concerns raised by the Board of Higher Education, which felt that this was a more appropriate home for the money in question, and so, we're doing this to accommodate the higher education community. And so, I think the Gentleman's point is not well taken, and I urge that this Amendment be adopted."
"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #16 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #... "
"Yes, excuse me. Mr. Vinson."
"Mr. Speaker, I requested a Roll Call on that."
"During your presentation, did you? If you did... If you did, then you'll get a Roll Call. Okay. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 39 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 'nay'. Voting is now open. The Gentleman from Bureau, Mr. Mautino, to explain his vote."
"Thank you very much. I'd like to make a request of the distinguished Minority Leader over there, that if we're going to do it on this Amendment, Representative Vinson, we're going to do it on all of them."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Amendment, there are 59 voting 'aye', 35 voting 'no', none voting 'present', and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #17, Hastert, amends Senate Bill 1574 as amended."
"The Gentleman from Kendall, Mr. Hastert."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I ask leave to table Amendment... Committee Amendment #10. Ask leave to table Committee Amendment #10."
"Mr. Hastert, I was recognizing you on 17, on Amendment #17. Did... Did you want to do that first... Did you want to first table Amendment #10?"
"We need to do that first, yes."
"Alright. The Gentleman from Kendall moves to table Amendment #10 to Senate Bill 1574. Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #10 be tabled?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and Amendment #10 is tabled. Amendment #17. The Gentleman from Kendall, Mr. Hastert."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #17 is the technical change that corrects a flaw in Amendment #10. What it does is allow for $700,000 for food stamp distribution, and I ask for its favorable passage."
"The Gentleman from Kendall moves for the 40 STATE OF ILLINOIS 93RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 adoption of Amendment 17 to Senate Bill 1574. Is there any discussion? There being none... I'm sorry. The Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Mulcahey."
"A question of the Sponsor, Mr. Speaker."
"Indicates he'll yield for a question."
"What... Representative Hastert, what is this for? The Amendment just has a couple of numbers on there. What..."
"Would you repeat your question? I can't hear you."
"Amendment #17. What is the increase in the funds for? Where is it going? Why is it needed?"
"Representative, it's not an increase. It's a technical Amendment that takes the place of Committee Amendment #10, but what is does is allow $700,000 which was appropriated in Committee for food stamp distribution through currency exchanges, and basically, this is done in urban areas, not in rural areas, because of the safety of those packets."
"Okay. Thank you."
"You're welcome."
"Further discussion? Mr. Bowman."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Since there's some question about this, I just want to point out that the money that this Amendment deals with was in the Governor's budget as it was presented to the Senate. The Senate Committee took the money out. We restored the money in House Committee, but because the Amendment was not properly drafted, we had to table that Amendment and adopt this Amendment, so this doesn't make any change in the Governor's budget as it was introduced."
"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #17 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #18, Bowman, amends Senate Bill 41 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 1574 as amended."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman, on Amendment #18."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Amendment restores the operation cuts made by the Senate based on their productivity guidelines. It also reduces the retirement level to the original request, 5.6 percent for personal services, and the net changes by line item are... well, they... they're in several different line items that they total in addition of 5.67 million dollars. The personal services dollars restores 158 various positions throughout the Department's operations. I move for its adoption."
"The Gentleman from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment 19 to Senate Bill 1574. There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #18 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. Amendment #18 is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #19, Hastert, amends Senate Bill 1574."
"The Gentleman from Kendall, Mr. Hastert, on Floor Amendment 19."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to table Amendment #19. Or withdraw."
"Mr. Hastert withdraws Amendment #19. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #20, Hastert, amends Senate Bill..."
"The Gentleman from Kendall, Mr. Hastert, on Floor Amendment #20."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to withdraw Amendment #20." 42 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"The Gentleman from Kendall withdraws Amendment #20. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #21, Hastert, amends Senate Bill 1574."
"The Gentleman from Kendall, Mr. Hastert, on Amendment #21."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #21 adds $2,250,000 to the budget to create 130 new positions, which basically are people who go out and check nursing homes, according to the... some of the legislation we just passed in this House."
"The Gentleman from Kendall moves for the adoption of Amendment #21 to Senate Bill 1574. And on that, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."
"I thought you... would the Sponsor yield?"
"Indicates he'll yield for a question."
"I thought you were doing Agreed Resolutions, there. This adds how many people?"
"A hundred and thirty positions, Sir."
"A hundred and thirty positions. That's more positions than I have precincts in my legislative district. How much money is that?"
"As I said before, it's $2,250,000, and this goes along with the Madigan plan that was passed out of this House."
"Well, you're saying some of the right words, but you're still not hitting all of the bells."
"Representative, I might add, too, with comment on this. It's 75 percent reimbursable federal funds."
"And then, the 25 percent, what is that? General Revenue or Road Fund?"
"It's GRF fund, sir."
"GRF. I think there might be some hesitation on this side of the aisle on this Amendment, and we'd ask for a 43 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Roll Call."
"The Gentleman from Bureau, Mr. Mautino."
"Same request, Mr. Speaker."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in support of this Amendment. For the benefit of people on this side of the aisle, this Amendment is what's known in the trade as 'the program'. There are a lot of substantive Bills going through the Legislature and many of them imposing certain requirements on various Departments. This is one Department that is being imposed upon, and we need this money in order to be able to fund some of the substantive Bills. So I think that this is a good Amendment, and we ought to adopt it."
"The Gentleman from DeWitt, Mr. Vinson."
"Mr. Speaker, I just want to tell Mr. Mautino that if we're going to do it on this one, we're going to do it on all of them."
"Yeah, I urge the Representative to consider withdrawing his request for a oral... or, for a Roll Call vote."
"Mr. Leverenz, on Roll Call."
"I'm not convinced. I know he mentioned one name, but nobody checked with me."
"There being no further discussion, Mr. Hastert, from the County of Kendall, to close."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, what this Amendment does is to recapture 75 percent of this money back into federal funds. What it does is approve... allow people that we can go and approve care plans, and nursing homes verify that services are actually being delivered, withhold payment for services if they're not delivered favorably. It approves all transactions with the nursing homes and the Department and assures 44 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 appropriate movement of clients from one nursing home to another. Now, I'm trying to move this piece of legislation through here to accommodate some very important Bills that have been passed through this House previously. I'm just trying to accommodate and certainly would appreciate a favorable Roll Call."
"The question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Amendment, there are 61 voting 'aye', 25 voting 'no', none voting 'present', and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #22, Braun et al... "
"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Braun."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #22 follows up on the Governor's press conference yesterday, in which he indicated that there would be a grant increase for public aid recipients in the energy assistance line. I move for the adoption of the Amendment."
"The Lady from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment #22 to Senate Bill 1574. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #22 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #23, Hastert, amends Senate Bill 1574 as amended."
"The Gentleman from Kendall, Mr. Hastert."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Because of the watchful eye of the people on the other side, I... move to withdraw this 45 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Amendment."
"Amendment #23 will be withdrawn. My former seatmate, Harold Katz, is working the floor, I see. Hello, Harold. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #24, Hastert, amends Senate Bill ..."
"The Gentleman from Kendall, Mr. Hastert, on Amendment #24."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #24 adds $2,095,000 to the medical assistance budget. What it does is replace... What it does is to add the cost-of-living increases to medical providers to people on medical assistance."
"The Gentleman from Kendall has moved for the adoption of Amendment #24 to Senate Bill 1574. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #... I'm sorry. The Lady from Cook, Ms. Braun."
"No... No questions."
"Alright. The question is, 'Shall Amendment #24 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1577. Ms. Barnes, do you wish to proceed? 1577. Alright, Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1577, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the office of the Commissioner of Savings and Loans. Third Reading of the Bill. I mean, Second Reading of the Bill." 46 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Barnes, amends Senate Bill 1577."
"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Barnes, on Amendment #1."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen, Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1577 adds $42,100 for two additional positions and the use of an accountant for consulting purposes. I would ask for adoption of the Amendment."
"The Lady from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1577. There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and Amendment #1 is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #2, Leverenz, amends Senate Bill 1577."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz, on Floor Amendment #2."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Amendment simply reduces, by $3,100, the General Revenue Fund funding of the retirement line item. I would move for the adoption of the Amendment."
"The Gentleman from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1577. There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"No further Amendment."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills 47 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1583. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1583, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Department on Aging. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1, 2 and 3 were adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #4, Oblinger, amends Senate Bill 1583."
"The Lady from Sangamon, Ms. Oblinger, on Amendment #4."
"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I would like permission to withdraw Amendment #4."
"Amendment #4 is withdrawn. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #5, Oblinger, amends Senate Bill 1583."
"The Lady from Sangamon, Ms. Oblinger, on Amendment #5."
"Amendment #5 is the Amendment that would allow $395,000 for... $320,000 for settlement of the Court of Claims from vendors. The reason for this, the Community and Home Care Program is an entitlement program, and all people who are eligible must be accepted, and so the funds were depleted, and they need this money now to pay the vendors on the Court of Claims charges. That's for FY '83. I'm sorry."
"The Lady from Sangamon moves for the adoption of Amendment #5 to Senate Bill 1583. Is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #5 be adopted?' All in favor signify... Yes, Mr. Bowman. I'm sorry." 48 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Thank you. I oppose the Amendment. The customary procedure is to go through the Court of Claims. This circumvents that procedure, and I think it is inappropriate. We certainly do supplemental Bills for this sort of thing all the time, and I see no reason to have it in the budget. It's $395,000 that we might be able to spend on something else that's very worthy, and so, I would oppose the Amendment."
"Alright. Further discussion?"
"This is now... This is in..."
"Excuse me, Ms. Oblinger. Let's see if there's any further discussion. Alright. There being none, Ms. Oblinger to close."
"This is being processed through the Court of Claims now, and will be in order to be paid within the next couple of weeks, and that's why they're asking for it now, rather than to come again for a supplemental."
"The Gentleman from Effingham, Mr. Brummer."
"Yes, will the Sponsor yield?"
"Indicates she'll yield for questions."
"Yes, is... I do not have the Amendment in front of me. Is the language such that it is subject to the approval of the Court of Claims?"
"The way it reads is, 'the sum of $395,500 or so much thereof as may be necessary is appropriated to the Department on Aging for outstanding obligations incurred during the fiscal year ending June 30, 1993.' This is back quite a ways, and the Court of Claims is working on it now."
"So it would not be subject to approval by the Court of Claims, then?"
"Not at this time."
"How many claims are pending, here?" 49 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"There are about 10. They have to do with local health agencies, Catholic charities, Lutheran charities, the ones who have provided service in the in-home care program."
"What happens if the Court of Claims finds, for example, that some of these claims or one of these claims is invalid, and we appropriate this money for the payment of it?"
"The Department is not fighting any of the claims. They are all authenticated."
"Well... But, doesn't the Court have to make a decision as to whether or not they're valid claims? I mean, isn't that the function of the Court of Claims?"
"That's the function of the Court of Claims, and usually, they'll follow the agency's recommendations, if they are liable for those amounts."
"And the agency concedes these amounts?"
"Yes."
"Thank you."
"Further discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."
"Could the Sponsor yield? What happened to Amendment 4?"
"I withdrew it."
"Will you withdraw 6 also, if 5 is adopted?"
"6 is for '84 claims, 5 is for '83 claims."
"Could you tell me, as far as I understand from the Amendment, it says for the immediate payment. Is that correct, to make immediate payment to the vendors?"
"No, it says, 'It is appropriated to the Department on Aging for outstanding obligations incurred during the fiscal year ending June 30, 1983.' It does not say, 'for the immediate payment'."
"Well, did they just overspend?" 50 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"I explained that, Representative Leverenz, but I will again. About 20,000,000 plus was allocated for the in-home care... Community In-Home Care Program. The Department on Aging has no control over how much they spend on that program, because the Court held it's an entitlement program. So everybody that's eligible, they have to accept. They have done this, and this is why they're short on the payment to the vendors."
"So have any of these people gone in now to the Court of Claims to go through the entire process, because I don't think it's going to pass in the Senate. And they'll not go with the Court of Claims which has not been signed off on by the Court of Claims in the Attorney General's Office."
"They are in the Court of Claims now. That's all I can answer."
"How long have they been going through that process? Is there some faulty work going on in the Court of Claims, that they're not processing these fast enough?"
"About a year, they've been there."
"They have been there about a year."
"Yes."
"You're giving us reason that there should be, perhaps, a problem when the Court of Claims Bill comes up. It's on Third Reading here. Is this all going to pop up in the Auditor General's next audit?"
"I've been informed that their load of cases this past year has been so heavy that they have not rendered their final decisions in any of these instances."
"Was there some attempt to... Or what was the purpose of putting them in the two different Amendments? Just because there are two different years or..."
"Yes."
"It would sound much bigger if Amendment 5 and 6 were 51 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 added together."
"I don't think that was the reason. I think they separated them, because they are for different years."
"How much then will the total be? It's 320 thousand... 320,000 for this Amendment, correct?"
"Alright. They don't know their '84 one. So that one leaves it open that as much as is necessary."
"Was there any reason why you didn't make an attempt to put this in the Court of Claims Bill itself? Obviously, it's in the wrong place."
"As I understand it, it cannot go into the Court of Claims Bill until the Court of Claims has rendered their final decision, and that's why they're asking for permission now so that they can pay these vendors who have provided the services as soon as the Court of Claims acts."
"Well, I'm sorry to raise these questions, Representative, but it just sounds a little goofy. Thank you."
"The Gentleman from Adams, Mr. Mays."
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the chamber. I think... I don't ever represent to be an authority on this topic, and I want to clear that first off, but it would seem to me that the reservations that have been raised by the other side of the aisle on the appropriateness of this measure in this Bill do have some merit. It would also seem to me that with Senate Bill 1546 still on the Order of Second Reading, it might be appropriate for the Sponsor of this Amendment to consider drafting Amendment #8 or 9 to 1546 subject to Court of Claim's approval. And I think we could get around this whole problem."
"Further discussion? There being no further discussion, the Lady from Sangamon to close, again." 52 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"I would ask for a favorable Roll Call on Amendment #5, because this will be coming very soon, and they would like... The vendors are small, local vendors, your local health authorities, your local Catholic and Lutheran charities who cannot wait much longer for this kind of reimbursement."
"Question is, 'Shall Amendment #5 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Bowman, do you wish to explain your vote? I think you spoke in debate, Mr. Bowman. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill (sic - Amendment) there are 41 voting 'aye', 47 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', and the Amendment fails. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #6, Oblinger, amends Senate Bill 15..."
"Lady from Sangamon, Ms. Oblinger"
"Mr. Speaker, I ask permission to withdraw Amendment #6."
"Amendment #6 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #7, Hicks, amends Senate Bill 1583..."
"Gentleman from Henderson, Mr. Hicks, on Amendment #7. Mr. Hicks. Well, it appears Mr. Hicks has stepped away. Do you want to take this out of the record, or what is your pleasure, Ma'am?"
"I do not support Amendment #7. I would like to withdraw it."
"Well, you'll have to ask to table Amendment #7."
"Alright. I would like to table Amendment #7." 53 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Yes, Mr. Leverenz, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"I would ask leave to handle the Amendment for him."
"What did you say, Mr. Leverenz?"
"I'd ask leave to handle the Amendment for him."
"There's been objection to you handling it. Mr. Mulcahey..."
"Then I would ask that the Bill be taken out of the record for a few moments."
"Mr. Mulcahey. Alright. Ms. Oblinger. Alright, we'll take this Bill out of the record. We'll come back to it shortly, Ms. Oblinger. On the... On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1587. Mr. Terzich? 1587? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1587, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. Alright. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1595. Mr. Stuffle. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1595, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Illinois Community College Board and the Board of Trustees of the State Community College of East St. Louis for Fiscal Year 1985. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions?"
"Motions to table Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1595, filed by Representative Klemm and Representative Keane."
"Gentleman from McHenry, Mr. Klemm."
"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. During the Committee 54 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 debate, we were talking about some allocation of some funds for the equalization towards the community colleges in Chicago. And, unfortunately, there was some misunderstanding, and I've filed... and Amendment #1 was adopted which would have transferred the million, three hundred and seventy thousand, two hundred dollars from the equalization category to the credit hour category. Subsequent to the passage of that, I had an opportunity to talk with Representative Keane, Representative McGann. They clarified the situation of why that money was needed because the formula had been changed in subsequent years, and they had lost some additional funding and that the Community College Board has agreed to work with us next year to bring some fair and equitable funding for the community colleges that do not receive the equity... or the equalization formula funding. So, I would like to ask leave to with... to table Amendment #1, because we have reached an agreement on that Bill."
"The Gentleman from McHenry moves to table Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1595. And on that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Vermilion, Mr. Stuffle."
"Mr. Speaker and Members, just to point out that everything Representative Klemm says is accurate and that there is no disagreement at this point in time. We've agreed to look at the issue of equalization grants next year in the early on and to have some input that probably should have been there for a long time from the Members of the General Assembly and the appropriations people. I would support the Motion to table Amendment #1."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. McGann."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I also support the tabling of this Amendment by Representative 55 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Klemm. I want to applaud him for his thoughtfulness and understanding in this matter in being able to work out a fair and equitable compromise at this time. And I want to thank Representative Klemm in behalf of all of us in the city colleges and in the community college district."
"There being no further discussion, all those in favor of tabling Amendment #1 signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. Amendment is tabled. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #2, Leverenz, amends Senate Bill 1595 as amended."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 would add the sum of two million dollars to the Illinois Community College Board for the purpose of providing matching grants to Illinois community colleges for program development, material, equipment and procurement of the curricula specifically impacted by advanced technology. These are the high tech grant monies. We took it out of the Higher Ed appropriation, and we are now placing it in this Bill as the substantive Bill has passed both Houses. I would move for the adoption of Amendment #2."
"The Gentleman from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1595. And on that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman."
"Thank you. I rise in support of this Amendment. This is the same Amendment that had been on the Board of Higher Education budget, and it was shifted over here because it is an appropriation to the Community College Board. It's more appropriate in this location. I support the Amendment."
"Question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' 56 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #3, McGann, amends Senate Bill 1595 as amended."
"Gentleman from Macoupin, Mr. Hannig, on Amendment #3. Oh, I'm sorry. Mr. McGann, on Amendment #3."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would ask leave of the House to withdraw Amendment #3."
"Amendment #3 is withdrawn. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #4, Younge, amends Senate Bill 1595 as amended."
"Lady from St. Clair, Ms. Younge, on Amendment #4."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #4 would appropriate 20,000 dollars from the State Community College Income Fund for reimbursement of prior year's liability to the Community College Impress Fund. I move for the adoption of the Amendment."
"The Lady from St. Clair moves for the adoption of Amendment #4 to Senate Bill 1595. On that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Ronan."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know this is against House rules, but I'm used to breaking House rules. I want to introduce a distinguished member of the Chicago City Council. He's Chairman of the Education Committee. He's going to come down here and explain to us how he solved all of our education problems, Alderman Fat O'Conner from the 40th Ward, great Ward Committeeman and the Alderman of the 40th Ward."
"Thank you, Mr. Ronan. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz." 57 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in support of Amendment #4. The money did lapse. This replaces the money in the Impressed Fund. I would hope the Amendment would be adopted very easily. Thank you."
"Further discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Berrios."
"Just a point of personal privilege."
"Yes."
"I also wanted to take the opportunity to introduce the first Puerto Rican Alderman ever elected in the City of Chicago, Alderman Migel Santiago from the 31st Ward."
"Thank you. Further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #4 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #5, Hannig - Rea - Mulcahey, amends Senate..."
"Gentleman from Macoupin, Mr. Hannig, on Amendment #5."
"Yes, thank you..."
"Excuse me. Mr. Bowman... Excuse me, Mr. Hannig. Mr. Bowman, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker. I believe Amendment #5 is out of order with the adoption of the previous Amendments. I would appreciate it if the Parliamentarian would take a look at the Bill."
"Alright. Mr. Hannig, we will have the Parliamentarian examine Amendment #5 to see if it is in order. Mr. Bowman, your observation is correct. Amendment #2 amends the same Section. Accordingly, Amendment #5 58 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 would be out of order. Mr. Hannig, the Amendment is out of order. Further Amendments? Yes, Mr. Mulcahey, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Mr. Speaker, I wonder if the Gentleman would take this Bill out of the record for a few minutes."
"Mr. Stuffle, there has been a request by Representative Mulcahey that the Bill be taken out of the record for a few minutes."
"I'd be happy to take it out of the record."
"Alright. The Bill will be out of the record. We will return now to Senate Bill 1546. Mr. Nash, are you prepared on that? Out of the record again? On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1597. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1597, a Bill for an Act making certain appropriations to the Illinois State Scholarship Commission. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1(sic), Pedersen, amends Senate Bill 1597 on page one and so forth."
"Mr. Pedersen. The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Pedersen."
"Mr. Speaker, I move to withdraw Amendment #1 (sic)."
"Amendment #... No, Amendment #2, I think that is."
"Amendment #2."
"Amendment #2 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, Bowman, amends Senate Bill 1597..." 59 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman, on Floor Amendment #3."
"Mr. Speaker, just to clarify things. Which Amendments are now on the Bill? Could the Clerk advise us?"
"Amendment #2 was withdrawn. Amendment #1 remains on the Bill. Mr. Bowman, on Amendment #3."
"Then I ask leave to withdraw Amendment #3."
"Mr. Bowman withdraws Amendment #3. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #4, Pedersen, amends Senate Bill 1597..."
"Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Pedersen, on Amendment #4."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Amendment 4 to Senate Bill 1597..."
"Excuse me, Mr. Pedersen. Representatives and Aldermen, please, let's give the Gentleman our attention. Mr. Pedersen, the Gentleman from Lake, on Amendment #4."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Amendment 4 to Senate Bill 1597 will permit the funding of 33 new positions in the Student Loan Collection Division for eleven months, as opposed to the ten months the Bill calls for with Amendment 1. It would also... included is the appropriation for the State Employees' Pension Program. The addition of one month for the funds is supported by the Bill's Sponsor. It is an agreed Amendment, and I would appreciate your affirmative vote on this Amendment."
"Gentleman from Lake moves for the adoption of Amendment #4 to Senate Bill 1597. Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #4 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?" 60 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1599. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill"
"Senate Bill 1599, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the retirement purposes of higher education institutions and agencies. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Bowman, amends Senate Bill 1599..."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman, on Amendment #1."
"Leave to withdraw Amendment #1."
"Amendment #1 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, Bowman, amends Senate Bill 1599..."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman, on Amendment #2."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment #2 removes a total of 6.9 million dollars and also makes adjustments, comparable adjustments in the General Assembly and Judges' Retirement Systems to reflect the 60 percent payout policy that was in the Governor's budget. I move adoption of Amendment #2."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman, moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1599. On that, is there any discussion? Gentleman from Cook, Mr. O'Connell."
"Question of the Sponsor."
"He'll yield for a question."
"Would you indicate the adjustments that you're referring to in your remarks?" 61 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Yes. The... It removes a total of 6.9 million dollars from the University Retirement System of state contributions. The Amendment also includes appropriations to the General Assembly and Judges' Retirement System. The General Assembly system is provided for a total... Well, I don't have the reduction here. I have the total, but the payout level for the General Assembly and Judges system is 60 percent. We've already passed those Bills out of the House. If this Bill passes, the Governor can simply sign this and veto the other ones. But if I can anticipate your concern, let me... let me assure you that we're not trying to do anything to any other retirement systems that we're not prepared to do to our own and to the Judges Retirement System. We're trying to be consistent across the board."
"No, I'm not talking about the Judges' Retirement System. The University Professors' Retirement System is reduced from 67 percent to 60 percent, is it not?"
"That is correct, yes."
"In this Amendment."
"That is correct."
"Thank you."
"Further discussion? Gentleman from Rock Island, Mr. Brunsvold."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"He indicates he'll yield for a question."
"The six million dollars is... where is it going to go? Where's it going to be used?"
"Well, Representative Brunsvold, that... in a way that's an easy question; but, in a way, it's a hard question. The fact is, we've probably already spent it in a variety of other Bills that have already passed, and that's the reason we've got to do this. No, the simple fact is that the budget as introduced contemplated a 60 percent payout. The 62 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Senate upped that to 67 percent and made some other... it made some cuts. However, the cuts the Senate made did not begin to compensate for the increase in the budget that they passed. And so, at the present time, this is necessary to try and bring the budget back into balance. I'm... I'm sorry, go ahead."
"This wouldn't be enough money for private busing, would it?"
"Absolutely not. Absolutely not."
"Thank you."
"The Lady from Champaign, Ms. Satterthwaite."
"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, there appears to have been some kind of an agreement struck somewhere, but it certainly was not something that went through the process in the Appropriations Committee to agree to cut back the retirement system funding levels for this year. I think that it is really sad when we are in a position of trying to balance the budget on the backs of the retirement systems when the state has been underfunding those systems for several years now, not even putting in enough money to meet the payout from that particular system. I think that we have taken a step in the right direction by passing a Bill out of here yesterday that provides for a future level of funding that will catch up. But, in the meantime, we are really penalizing our pension systems and the retirees, because we constantly reject improvements to the system that are warranted for particularly those who have retired a number of years ago. And I really object to the fact that whatever kind of agreement has been struck here was not done in an open forum, was not something that went through the Committee process. And for that reason, I am opposing this Motion to adopt Amendment #2." 63 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Gentleman from Will, Mr. Van Duyne."
"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I can only echo Representative Satterthwaite's contention without reiterating them to the Body, but my main concern is here that we all go on record as how we're voting. And I ask the Chair for a Roll Call vote."
"Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Mulcahey. Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."
"To the Amendment. I would just suggest that some of the prior speakers that aren't in favor of this and especially one mentioning that it was not discussed in Committee, many things cannot go to Committee but will be dealt with in Conference. And I would move that we put the Amendment on so we can get there expeditiously. Thank you."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman, to close."
"Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would like to point out to the Membership to remind them that we passed Senate Bill 1223 yesterday. Senate Bill 1223 provides for amortization of the unfunded liability of the pension systems. The starting point for 1223 was a funding at a 60 percent payout this year. So, what we are doing with this particular Amendment is consistent with the legislation that we passed yesterday which does provide over a long term the gradual reduction of the unfunded liability of the pension system. These... these systems are not placed in jeopardy by the 60 percent payout. The fact is that we have to balance the various needs of the various agencies and various lives, and this particular Amendment is consistent with the Governor's budget. It is consistent with the Bill that we passed yesterday. And I believe that it behooves us to adopt this Amendment now. I so move." 64 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair... 'Ayes' have it. Mr. Van Duyne, I'm reminded that you did ask for a Roll Call. All in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. Mr.... Mr. Piel. Mr. Piel's seatmate, vote him 'no'. He asks to be voted 'no'. Mr. Piel, you don't have a seatmate apparently. Mr. Vinson, for what purpose do you seek recognition? To explain your vote, sir?"
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I would strongly urge the Members to cast an 'aye' vote on this Amendment. I believe that if we attempt to persist in appropriating at a high level on the pension issue, we're going to put ourselves in the position where there is no conceivable way to balance the budget, there is no conceivable way to provide money for elementary and secondary education. If we don't adopt this kind of an Amendment which really represents an act of courage and integrity by the Gentleman from Cook, then we are going to put ourselves in a position where you cannot balance this budget. I believe Members ought to at this particular point, now, make that decision and get this issue off the table. And I would strongly urge 'aye' votes on this Amendment."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman, to explain his vote."
"Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the hopes that with a little more time some of the Members might see the err of their ways, let me... let me say... Well, I hear people yelling for recognition."
"Mr. Van Duyne, under our rules, the Sponsor... Excuse me, Mr. Bowman. Under our rules, Mr. Van Duyne, the Sponsor may explain his vote even though he has spoken in 65 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 debate. That is our rules. Mr. Bowman, you may proceed."
"Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You're very fair. The... Yes, I think that the people ought to reconsider the vote. The problem is simply this. When you aggregate the fact of increasing the retirement funding levels to 67 percent, the... it comes to 50 million dollars over the budget level. Now, we're being asked to fund a lot of things, and 50 million dollars is an awfully big piece of change, granted this particular Bill involves seven million dollars. But let me tell you, one of two things is either going to happen. Either we put all the Bills in a consistent posture, or we're going to overappropriate on some and underappropriate on the others, and then what the Governor is going to do is take the ones that are overappropriated, such as this one, and then he's going to veto them back. Now, maybe you want to put the Governor in that awkward posture, and I suppose that's okay, too, but the fact is that if we... if we don't prepare the Bills in a consistent fashion, we're simply inviting the use of the veto pen. And you're not going to succeed anyway. So, I think it would be better if the House and the Senate were to behave responsibly and to behave consistently... at the 60 percent level."
"Yes, Mr. Bowman, bring you remarks to a close."
"I just did."
"Mr. Hastert, the Gentleman from Kendall."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House..."
"To explain his vote. One minute."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. You know, what we have before us here is we have certainly a self interest. This is the General Assembly pension. We are looking at also university professors and 66 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Judges. What is being done is we're saying, 'No, we're not willing to bring our pension down from 67 to 60 percent like we've done in other areas, even on this floor today', but; yet, it's okay to go along and lower everybody else's pension. I think politically and otherwise this is a very shortsided move to vote 'no' against this move, against this Amendment. I think we ought to look at the whole picture. I would encourage Members on both this side and the other side to vote 'yes' on this Amendment."
"Gentleman from Vermilion, Mr. Stuffle, to explain his vote. One minute."
"Mr. Speaker and Members, that last statement speaks to the issue of all the cuts. All the other Motions on these Amendments were taken on voice votes so far. The issue cuts across what system we're in. It speaks to the fact that year after year we've promised only one year of borrowing, if you will, from payout. We have two things we all talk about doing - funding education and funding pensions, and we consistently don't do either one. We can send this signal today - there are plenty of days left in this Session - that we don't like what's going on by killing this Amendment."
"Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, having been involved in the appropriations process for a good many years and knowing, as all of us do, that we really don't know until right near the end how we are going to apportion the funds that totally make up the budget for the State of Illinois, this is a very important issue. We've got to adopt this Amendment. It is possible that the Senate and the House may agree on a percentage of funding for retirement; but, if we adopt this Amendment, we can put everything out of kilter. I've received the same letters 67 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 that all of you have. I've received people in my office, as all of you have, but we must be responsible in passing the appropriations Bills in the end product. So that we can come to a responsible and responsive end product, I would urge that enough Members do support this Amendment, and we can finally do our work."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Amendment there are 49 voting 'aye', 45 voting 'no', 13 voting 'present'. This Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On page six of the Calendar, continuing Senate Bills Second Reading, appears Senate Bill 1600. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1600, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of state universities civil service system. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1609. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1609, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Department of Public Aid. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Bowman, amends Senate Bill 1609..."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman, on Amendment 68 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 #1."
"Leave to withdraw Amendment #1."
"Amendment #1 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, Braun, amends Senate Bill 1609..."
"Lady from Cook, Ms. Braun, on Amendment #2."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is 300 million... or 300,000 dollars for the Auditor General for his auditing of cost containment."
"Lady from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1609. Is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Kendall, Mr. Hastert, on Amendment #2."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wasn't aware of these Amendments going on. Would the Sponsor of this Amendment please say a little bit louder what this is for?"
"I'm very sorry."
"You have such a soft voice."
"It's because I'm a nice person. It's a clear-cut Amendment, Representative. It just provides for the Auditor General so he can discharge his functions in reviewing hospital expenditures."
"The Auditor... So this appropriates money to the Auditor General."
"That's correct."
"I was misinformed, I guess. I thought this Bill was a Bill that dealt with the Department of Public Aid. He's not doing anything with public aid."
"Yes, this is pursuant to the Bill that we passed yesterday, Senate Bill 495."
"So it's for his looking after the nursing home situation?"
"Cost containment for hospitals." 69 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Cost containment for hospitals."
"Yes. Yes."
"That was Senate Bill..."
"495."
"495. Thank you for your explanation."
"You're welcome."
"There being no further discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, Brunsvold, amends Senate Bill 1609..."
"Gentleman from Rock Island, Mr. Brunsvold, on Amendment #3."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #3 would grant 15,000 dollars for a rental of a punch card system for the County of Rock Island. And I move for the adoption of the Amendment."
"Gentleman from Rock Island moves for the adoption of Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 1609. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. Amendment #3 is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1610. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1610, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to certain state agencies. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments." 70 STATE OF ILLINOIS 93RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Matijevich - Davis, amends Senate Bill 1610 on page..."
"Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich, on Amendment #1."
"Yes, if I could, I'd ask leave that Representative Stuffle be added as a Sponsor also."
"Gentleman has leave to add Representative Stuffle as a Cosponsor."
"Because he and I and Representative Jack Davis have worked with the state troopers' lodge on this particular Amendment. What it would do it would appropriate 480,500 dollars to the Department of Law Enforcement for the payment of a five percent salary increase at the beginning of sworn officers 17 and a half year of service. This increment increase would affect 524 officers in the Department. Supported and endorsed by the state troopers' lodge. Allan Bennet, I believe, has talked to some of you about it. I've talked to the agency about this, and this comes within the appropriation level, total appropriation in their Department. They're discussing it with the troopers, and we want to make sure that it's included as a half year funding. We want to include it, because they are very close to coming into terms with this. And I would appreciate your support."
"Gentleman from Lake moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1610. On that, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #2, Leverenz, amends Senate Bill 71 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 1610..."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 would appropriate 56,000 dollars to the State Board of Education for a study to determine the financial implications of legislation passed in 1983 regarding high school graduation requirements, and I would so move for the adoption of Amendment #2."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz, moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1610. There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1649. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1649, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the State's Attorneys' Appellate Service Commission. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, Leverenz, amends Senate Bill..."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 would remove 5800 dollars and 2800 dollars. It reduces the level of retirement payoff to 60 percent, and I would move for the adoption of the Amendment." 72 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz, moves for the adoption of Amendment 2 to Senate Bill 1649. There being no further discussion, question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1656. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1656, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Department of Law Enforcement agencies to recover Children Search Program. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. Mr. Nash, are you prepared to proceed on 1546? We'll... Yes, turn Mr. Nash on. I'm sorry. Mr. Nash."
"Can we take it out of the record for just a second?"
"Yes, we'll take it out of the ... We'll come back to it. Yes, Mr. Bowman, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"If we're... If we've got a little... little time, maybe we could go back and pick up Aging?"
"Mr. Bowman, we always have time. What can we do for you? What is your pleasure?"
"Well, if we could go back... I think it was the Department on Aging that was... Bill was taken out of the record. I believe we worked something out that might make it go smoothly."
"Hold it just for a second, Mr. Bowman." 73 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Oh, okay."
"Alright. Mr... Excuse me. Mr. Bowman, we'll get back to you in a little while. Mr. Nash, are you prepared to proceed on 1546? Alright. Mr. Clerk, read 1546."
"Senate Bill 1546, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Court of Claims and to the State Comptroller. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Keane, amends Senate Bill 1546 on page..."
"Mr. Nash asks leave... He asks leave to handle that. Alright. The Gentleman has leave to handle Amendment #1. Proceed, Mr. Nash."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I move to table Amendment #1. It's technically incorrect, and it's being replaced with Amendment #6."
"Alright. Gentleman asks leave to withdraw Amendment #1. Amendment #1 is withdrawn. Proceed. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #2, Mays, amends Senate Bill 1546."
"The Gentleman from Adams, Mr. Mays."
"Thank you very... Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 adds 35,831 dollars to the Court of Claims Bill. Back in 1982 when we were going through the cuts that we were going through over there, there were some bills that were left unpaid to the city for fire protection, water and sewer. There were two claims filed in the Court of Claims last December; one dealing with fire, one dealing with water and sewer. The water and sewer was dealt with within two weeks, and so that is a part of the current bill. The fire portion of 74 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 that bill, however, was not dealt with until last week when Judge 'Roe' signed the order for this amount. It still has to get some other signatures. So, we're putting in there 'pursuant to the revised statutes' and so on. So, I move the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1546."
"Gentleman from Adams moves for the adoption of Amendment 2 to Senate Bill 1546. Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment #2 is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #3, Countryman, amends Senate Bill 1546."
"Gentleman from DeKalb, Mr. Countryman, on Amendment #3."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #3 appropriates $239.06 to Carolyn Suttie. Carolyn Suttie is a constituent in my district who had a contract with the Department, and the Department failed to process her... her voucher and then failed to properly process the matter in the Court of Claims before all the appropriations lapsed. The matter will pass the Court of Claims if there's a sufficient appropriation. I'd ask for a favorable vote on Amendment #3."
"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 1546. Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 be adopted?' All in favor... I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Ms. Oblinger, the Lady from Sangamon."
"May I ask the Sponsor a question?"
"Certainly. Of course. He'll yield for a question."
"Has the Court of Claims adjudicated this?" 75 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Yes."
"Okay, fine."
"Question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #4, Nash, amends Senate Bill 1546."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Nash."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #4 to Senate Bill 1546 is the spring awards Bill for the Court of Claims. This Amendment adds 9,666,933 dollars to the Court's spring awards Bill. I'd move for its adoption."
"Gentleman from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment #4 to Senate Bill 1546. And on that, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."
"Would the Gentleman yield for a quickie?"
"Indicates he'll yield for a quickie."
"All of these have gone through the total process on both sides, is that correct?"
"Yes, it has."
"Is there anything in here for one Medley Movers?"
"There isn't but should be."
"There is not?"
"But it should be."
"But it should be. Probably come in a further Amendment. Thank you."
"Question is, 'Shall Amendment #4 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #5, Leverenz, amends Senate Bill 1546..." 76 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz, on Amendment #5."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. For awards that have been gone... they have gone through the process. Various trucking companies overpaid licensing fees. This will appropriate 134,719 from the Road Fund, and I would move for the adoption of the Amendment."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz, moves for the adoption of Amendment #5 to Senate Bill 1546. Is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Nash."
"A question of the Sponsor of the Amendment."
"Proceed, Mr. Nash."
"Mr. Leverenz, is one of the trucking companies Mr. Medley's that's included in this Bill?
"I'm not going to tell you. Maybe I will. No. That's in a further Amendment, I think."
"Further discussion? The question is, 'Shall Amendment #5 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #6, Keane, amends Senate Bill 1546 as amended."
"Does Mr. Nash have leave to proceed on that? Gentleman has leave. Mr. Nash, proceed."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Amendment is the spring... is another spring awards Bill for the Court of Claims. It would appropriate 450,682 dollars to the Comptroller for payment to the city collges of Chicago. I move for its adoption."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Nash, moves for the passage... moves for the adoption of Senate Bill... of 77 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Amendment #6 to Senate Bill 1546. Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #6 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #7, Giorgi, amends Senate Bill 1546 as amended."
"Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Giorgi. Mr. Giorgi is in the chamber, Mr. Nash."
"Mr. Speaker, Amendment #7 provides for a death benefit award for a firefighter, Terry Berg, who died as a result of his injuries. The courts and everybody agreed that he died as a result of his injuries, but he didn't die within the one year prescribed by law. So, this is going to attempt to change the law and allow the Court of Claims to pay the claim. I urge the adoption of the Amendment."
"The Gentleman from Winnebago moves for the adoption of Amendment #7 to Senate Bill 1546. Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #7 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #8, Leverenz, amends Senate Bill 1546 as amended."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."
"Withdraw on Amendment 8."
"Amendment 8 is withdrawn. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #9, Leverenz, amends Senate Bill..."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."
"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, 78 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 here's the one you've all been waiting for, even Representative DiPrima and McAuliffe. Amendment #9 would appropriate 92,400 dollars on a court ordered judgment entered in the United States Court of Appeals for the 7th District on November 1st of '83 to the firm of Sonnenschein, Carlin, Nath and Rosenthal who represented one friend of all of ours here in Springfield, and I would move for the adoption of the Amendment."
"Gentleman from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment #9 to Senate Bill 1546. On that, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Nash."
"A question of the Sponsor, Mr. Speaker."
"Indicates he'll yield for a question."
"Is this the Pat Quinn Amendment, Mr. Leverenz?"
"Well, you had to do it, didn't you? I said this is the one everyone's been waiting for. Yes, that's true."
"I will ask for a Roll Call on this Amendment."
"Objection."
"Further discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. DiPrima."
"Yes, Mr. Quinn, as you recall, is the man that cut this House down by one-third. Now, you know, what this did was did away with the minority representations in various districts. I would oppose this thing vehemently, and I would ask every Member of this House to do likewise."
"Further discussion? Gentleman from Cook, Mr. McAuliffe."
"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I also would rise in opposition to this Amendment. I wouldn't vote to appropriate one nickel to Pat Quinn unless it was to bury him. So I'm very definitely opposed to this."
"Yes, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bullock." 79 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Mr. Speaker, will the Sponsor yield for a question?"
"Indicates that he will."
"Representative Leverenz, could you tell this Body and certainly this Representative what 92,400 dollars is actually expended for over and beyond reading the language in the Amendment?"
"Nope. It's in the language of the Amendment, and I..."
"Well, that's consistent, Representative Leverenz. I do not ask the question in folly, even though you reciprocate in folly. I wanted to know what the case was all about. And since you refuse to tell us, I certainly am disposed to voting 'no', but I would like to know what it is, in fact, involving."
"Well, to respond to the Gentleman, I did not answer him in folly. I don't know what all of the fees represent. I would imagine the clock was on and ticking. I would imagine that it took filing fees. I would imagine that it takes travel and whatever had to be done in the suit against the State Board of Elections to recover the amount provided by a judgment entered in the United States Court of Appeals, which I explained earlier. I don't know how to explain it any further."
"Could you tell us what the case was, Representative?"
"Excuse me, Mr. Bullock. I wanted to point out to people who may be on the floor that under our rules, access to the floor is set out in Rule 63 and that lobbyists and people who are lobbying do not have access to this floor and would be well advised to stay off the floor. No, Mr.... or Senator Jones is... you may stay with us. Mr. Bullock, proceed."
"Mr. Speaker, I was trying to get some clarification on the actual case involved. Several people had alluded to it 90 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 as the Pat Quinn Amendment, and I, you know, whatever your opinions and feelings are about Pat Quinn aside, but I think when we're appropriating whether it's 92,000 dollars or, in some case, we're asking for a 12 dollar increase of cost of living for Public Aid recipients, it's usually customary on this floor that we try to explain to the Members who are not as enlightened as others what exactly is involved. And if the Gentleman would tell us the case, the disposition of that case, I personally would be satisfied."
"Very well. I'll try to answer your question very succinctly. Case #84-CC3557, and the question was, 'Does a circulator of a petition have to come from the same jurisdiction.' That was the question. On the circulation of petitions for the cut-back Amendment, the attorneys won. The Court has ordered the attorneys paid."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I think that was important to this Body so that the individuals would know that a court order has been entered and not only that, in terms of what the money was incurred for."
"The Gentleman from DeKalb, Mr. Countryman."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As I indicated the last time this was up, I am a named defendant under the Civil Rights Act in these cases and, therefore, will only cast a 'present' vote. I would be glad to try to explain to anyone the complex nature of this litigation, and I don't think I agree with everyone in the House. I'm not happy about doing this, but I think it happens all the time. And it's something that just needs to be taken care of because there's an interest clock running and a Federal Judge running the meter. Thank you."
"Gentleman from Will, Mr. Van Duyne." 81 STATE OF ILLINOIS 93RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Yes. Would the Sponsor yield, please?"
"Indicates he'll yield for a question?"
"Representative, would it be advantageous for us to know who the other attorneys were? Do you have their names?"
"What other attorneys do you allude to?"
"I thought you... Maybe I misunderstood you then. I'm sorry. I thought you said that there... that there were attorney fees adjudicated by the Court of Claims, and we were ordered to pay those."
"Well, I have named the law firm, Sonnenschein, Carlin, Nath and Rosenthal. And the attorney for that firm that actually handled the case was William Barker and James Scanlon of the Board of Election represented by the Board of Elections."
"Mr. Van Duyne, you through? Further discussion? There being none, Mr. Leverenz, to close."
"Yes, Ladies and Gentlemen and Mr. Speaker, I think we all have a responsibility to do what is right. The longer this goes, the longer the clock runs for interest. I truly believe it's going to have to be done whether we like it or not. It is, in fact, a court ordered payment, and I've explained the case. I have explained the number of the case, the attorneys in the case. And I think we just better adopt the Amendment and find another way to take out our vengence or whatever or anything that we want to do. We can all file petitions and run against Mr. Quinn personally, if you think you've got the guts to do it and the wherewithall to win in the organizational skills that the Gentleman has. So, let's get to the Amendment and adopt it."
"Question is, 'Shall Amendment #9 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 82 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Oh. Under our rules, five people have to join in requesting a Roll Call. I guess there were five. I, apparently... Question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. Yes, Mr. Leverenz, to..."
"Would you order the Clerk to cut the board off before they put me in the Century Club again on this lovely number?"
"You're doing alright. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Amendment there are 42 voting 'aye', 41 voting 'no', 12 voting 'present', and the Amendment is adopted. Yes, the Gentleman from Adams, Mr. Mays, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is this the final Amendment for the Court of Claims Bill today?"
"I don't know. We'll find out in a few minutes."
"No. At that time... Never mind."
"Mr. Clerk, are there further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #10, Nash, amends Senate Bill 1546 as amended."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Nash, on Amendment #10."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #10 is all the case... all of these cases... Can't read the note."
"Gentleman from... Yes, Mr. Nash? Yes, Mr. Johnson, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"I hope he hasn't finished."
"I couldn't tell." 83 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"I mean, I really like Representative Nash, but I wish... I have absolutely no idea in the world what he said about this Amendment or the Bill or anything else."
"Mr. Nash."
"Well, I didn't speak on the Amendment yet, Mr. Johnson. I'm trying to find out what the Amendment is, because I'm trying to accommodate your side of the aisle."
"Alright. Mr. Johnson, Mr. Nash is about to speak on this Amendment at which time you will be able to question him."
"Amendment #10 deals with the Illinois Replacement Hospital construction costs. It has 35,000 contract replacing of chiller pumps in the cooling towers of the University of Illinois Medical Center, campus Chicago, Illinois; 225,000 to burn out Goldberg Associates, Smith, Garden and Erickson and... the Illinois... University of Illinois Hospital architects contract additional service to provide the Capital Development Board with a new design known as H Plan for the University of Illinois Replacement Hospital; $215,471.05 to Alcay Comstock contract increase in base contract due to change orders authorized by the Capital Development Board at the University of Illinois Replacement Hospital; $32,938.76 to Robert Show Controls Company an increase in base contract due to change orders authorized by the Capital Development Board at the University of Illinois Hospital; $23,979.30 to S. N. Nielson and Company revisions to contract drawings and additional iron bracing supports at the University of Illinois Replacement Hospital; and $22,510.54 to Pora Construction Company contract increase in base contract due to change orders authorized by the Capital Development Board at the University of Illinois Replacement Hospital. I move for its adoption." 84 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Gentleman from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment #10 to Senate Bill 1546. Mr. Johnson, you may question him as long as you like."
"Are each one of these six subappropriations all ones that have been ordered after the judicatory process by the Court of Claims?"
"Can you repeat it?"
"Yes. Are each one of these six separate items that have been approved by adjudication of the Court of Claims?"
"Yes."
"Further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #10 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. Amendment #10 is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #11, Leverenz, amends Senate Bill 1546. Leverenz."
"Mr. Leverenz, on Amendment #11. Mr. Leverenz, we are on Amendment #11 to Senate Bill 1546."
"I was trying to get Zeke Giorgi's approval. Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #11 would provide court ordered payouts of attorneys' fees. The first case, 84-CC2588 for 18,650. The next is 84-CC3558 for ten thousand, seven. The next, 84-CC3584 for 6900. The next, 84-CC3582 for ten thousand, three. And 81-C6093 for legal fees assessed in the case 408,000. I would move for the adoption of the Amendment."
"The Gentleman from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment 11 to Senate Bill 1546. And on that, is there any debate? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #11 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and Amendment #11 is adopted. 85 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Further Amendment?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third... Yes, Mr. Nash, for what purpose are you seeking recognition?"
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, there is one more Amendment that Representative Oblinger has. It's not ready, and I have promised her that we'll bring the Bill back from Third Reading to adopt that Amendment."
"Well, alright. The Bill will... We'll place the Bill on the Order of Third Reading then. Now, Mr. Bowman. Yes, the Chair recognizes Representative from Cook, Mr. Bowman."
"Thank you. I believe we've worked out some problems on the Department of Aging's Bill, and I believe Representative Oblinger would like to now move the Bill... I mean... So, I'd like to go back to pick up the Department on Aging, 1547, I believe it was."
"Alright, Mr. Bowman."
"I'm sorry. 1583."
"On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1583. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1583 has been read a second time previously. Before the House is Senate Amendment... House Amendment #7, Hicks, amends Senate Bill 1583."
"Gentleman from Jefferson, Mr. Hicks."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Amendment... House Amendment #7 to Senate Bill 1583 would add a 100,000 dollars for the operation of the Love Joy Adult Day Care Center located in Mt. Vernon. Currently, the Love Joy Adult Day Care Center had applied to the Department of Aging for funding. That funding level was denied. The Love Joy Adult Day Care Center has alleged that there has been discrimination in the findings for 86 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 that. They have filed a claim with the Department of Human Rights to investigate the area - aging... Agency on Aging; and, during that time period and that interim period of the year, we're asking for a one year's funding for that day care center that currently is only funded with donations. And I would ask for its adoption."
"The Gentleman from Jefferson moves for the adoption of Amendment #7 to Senate Bill 1583. There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #...' I'm sorry. Lady from Sangamon, Ms. Oblinger. You were on the other side of my vision here. I'm sorry, Ms. Oblinger. Ms. Oblinger."
"Mr. Speaker, when Representative Redmond was up there, I used to have two little Irish flags, because I sat way out here and waved them at him. So, I'm going to have to get some kind of a little gadget like that."
"Well, I'll give you the country for me. Go ahead."
"I have several questions to ask the Sponsor if he'll yield."
"He'll yield for questions. Proceed."
"Representative Hicks, has this Love Joy Adult Day Care Center in Mt. Vernon ever been funded by the Department on Aging?"
"No, Ma'am. This exact center has never been funded. The group that is backing the... that is involved with this is a group out of Centralia, Illinois, which is a funded adult day care center for the elderly. They're the ones who have put the proposal together. That's why the charges of discrimination and everything else with the local area agency have been brought forth, because they have been funded in the past in similar type situations with the same type of people involved." 87 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"The second question I would like to ask, is the suit before the Human Relations Commission against the Department on Aging or the area agency on aging?"
"No, Ma'am. They've brought the discrimination charge against the local area agency, not the Department of Aging."
"Is it true that the Department on Aging has funded a similar program in Centralia called the Joy Adult Day Care Center?"
"That's correct. The Love Joy and the Joy Center are both the same group of people who are operating both of them."
"Has there been any discrimination alleged in the Centralia one?"
"No, Ma'am, there has not. The local area agency in Mt. Vernon is not the same agency that takes care of the one in Centralia. That's the reason for the charges being brought about."
"Mr. Speaker, to the Amendment. I do not believe this is a proper Amendment to be entered against the State Department on Aging. They have given the technical assistance, worked with this Love Joy Adult Day Care Center, which was not up to the point system that they required. They are not being sued on the discrimination. It is the local area agency, and there is no reason for the Department on Aging to fund a program which they have never funded before while they are in litigation before the Human Rights Commission, and I would suggest a 'no' vote on Amendment #7."
"The Gentleman from Marion, Mr. Friedrich."
"Would the Sponsor yield?"
"Indicates that he will."
"Is this Dr. Baglins' outfit?"
"Yes, Sir, that's correct." 98 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Well, I... I hope you'll have him move the whole operation in Centralia to Mt. Vernon. You're welcome to him."
"There being no further discussion, the Gentleman from Jefferson, Mr. Hicks, to close."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I would simply ask for the adoption of the Amendment."
"Question is, 'Shall Amendment #7 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #8, offered by Representative Bowman."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #8 reduces the Bill by 14,500 dollars as per the 60 percent payout for retirement. I move its adoption."
"Gentleman from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment #8 to Senate Bill 1583. Is there any discussion? The Lady from Sangamon, Ms. Oblinger."
"Mr. Speaker and... May I ask Representative Bowman a question?"
"Indeed you may. He'll yield for questions."
"Representative Bowman, this is not facetious. I really want to have an explanation of this and nobody else has given it to me. Why did we pass Senate Bill 1223 yesterday and then we're putting all these reductions on today? I mean, it's hard for me to understand, and it's hard for my constituents, a number of them who are in these retirement systems."
"Well, Representative Oblinger, I have been informed that Senate Bill 1223, when it was drafted, was predicated on the assumption that we would fund this year at 60 percent." 89 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 So, what we're doing is consistent with 1223. Now, next year may be a different story, but at least, at this time for this fiscal year, what we are doing is consistent with that Bill."
"Thank you."
"Further discussion? There being none... Yes, Mr. Dunn, the Gentleman from Macon." Dunn, J.: "Sponsor yield?"
"Indicates he will." Dunn, J.: "If this Amendment is adopted, what will be the level of payouts in the retirement system for this agency?"
"Sixty percent." Dunn, J.: "Thank you."
"Mr. Bowman?"
"I'd move for the adoption of the Amendment."
"Alright. The question is, 'Shall Amendment #8 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third... Third Reading. Yes, the Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Marion, Mr. Friedrich."
"Mr. Speaker, I would like to request a 30-minute recess for the purpose of a Republican Conference in Room 118."
"Alright. Mr. Friedrich has requested a Republican Conference in Room 118 for a half hour. The Democrats will go to lunch, and we will return at 1:30 promptly. Yes, Mr. Ewing, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Your Party goes to lunch everyday. Can we go with you?"
"Well, Mr. Ewing, if you've noticed the portly 90 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 manner of the Speaker, I could probably do without lunch today and a few other days, but you can come along. Sure. Thank you. The House will be in recess until the hour of 1:30. 1:30. The House will... The House will... The House will be in order. The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Madison, Mr. McPike."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the record show that Representative Slape is excused because of family... because his wife is having a baby?"
"Let the record show that Representative Slape is excused today and that the House extends its congratulations to... That's no illness. That's a blessing, Mr. Cullerton. In a few moments we will be going to the Order of Senate Bills Third Reading where the Sponsors have requested leave to return the Bills to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. While we are awaiting the Members to return, we will go to the Order of Concurrence on page six for nonconcurrence Motions that have been... of which the Chair has been advised. On that Order of Business appears House Bill 877 on page six of your Calendar. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Levin."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I would move that we nonconcur to Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 877."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Levin, moves that the House do nonconcur with Senate Amendments 1 and 2. And on that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I think it would be a good practice for all Members of the House with regard to the issue of when they wish to nonconcur to just briefly explain what the House Bill did and what the Amendments did and why you 91 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 wish to nonconcur."
"Amendment #1 provides that the State Board of Education's annual report to the Governor shall include the number of men and women teachers, their assignments, the number of students served in these assignments and the number of time devoted to these assignments. Our staff analysis indicates that this Amendment is overly vague. It should be corrected?"
"What did the Bill do?"
"The... By the way, it struck... Amendment 1 also struck everything after the enacting clause. The original Bill dealt with asbestos in the schools."
"So, okay. Were you upset when they struck your Bill, or do you want to try to... on a Conference Committee or..."
"I have a lot of asbestos in my, you know, schools in my school district."
"I mean, do you expect a Conference Committee to come back with your Bill? Is that what your hope is, or is that..."
"I doubt it. I doubt it."
"Well then, what's wrong with the Senate Amendments then?"
"The, you know, the... It's overly vague."
"Oh, okay. And so was your answer, I might add, but that's fine."
"Gentleman from DeWitt, Mr. Vinson."
"Well, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Assembly, I believe after carefully analyzing the Bill and the Amendments and the potential damage that Conference Committees could do in this area that I would offer a substitute Motion that the House concur in Senate Amendments 2 and Senate Amendment 1 to House Bill 877. And 92 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 I offer that Motion for a variety of reasons. First of all, the Amendments that have now become the Bill are basically Amendments that can't harm anybody. They are an Amendment that simply permits any downstate teacher to reside anywhere they want and not be... not be fired for so doing and an Amendment that simply requires an additional line relating to the number of students and their assignments in a report to the Governor."
"Excuse me, Mr. Vinson. We are under debate with respect to Mr. Levin's Motion to nonconcur. Accordingly, your Motion to concur is out of order, but you may continue certainly on... with respect to Representative Levin's Motion to concur. Mr... You have the floor, Mr. Vinson."
"Mr. Speaker, you're ruling that you cannot make a substitute Motion from the floor?"
"I'm ruling that we are presently debating, under our rules, under Rule... The Parliamentarian advises me that under our practice it is a principle Motion. It could be subject to Amendment, but it is... it is... it will not take a substitute Motion. That is our Parliamentarian's suggestion. That's my ruling..."
"What do you mean it might be subject to Amendment, Mr. Speaker? You mean you may rule differently on the next substitute Motion? Is that what you're really telling me?"
"You could within the scope of Robert's Rules amend Mr. Levin's Motion which was to concur. You could amend it, I guess, to delete nonconcur and delete 'non' and strike 'non', and that would read 'concur'."
"I so move."
"I think it is..."
"I so move."
"Wait. We'll get to you in a minute, Mr... 33 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Alright. We're going to... Mr. Levin, we are checking Robert's diligently at this moment. If you would like to take this out of the record for a while, we will come back to it. Honest injun. Okay. This is out of the record. On the Order of Concurrence, Motions to nonconcur, appears House Bill 2395 on page seven of the Calendar. Mr. Staczo. Out of the record. On the Order of Concurrence, nonconcurrence Motions, appears House Bill 2400, Mr. Bowman, the Gentleman from Cook, on page seven of the Calendar."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 2400 is the academic scholarship revision Bill. The Bill, as it passed the House, provided for up to a thousand dollar scholarship, but the amount of the scholarship would be based on the need of the student. However, the Senate, in its infinite wisdom, completely revised the concept and simply provided for a flat grant of 500 dollars, which is less than the current academic scholarship currently provides, completely changes the concept. I have spoken with the Senate Sponsor about this piece of legislation, and I think we can work something out. But in order to do so, we must nonconcur in the House, and they must nonrecede in the Senate. And so I now move to nonconcur."
"Gentleman from Cook moves to nonconcur with Senate Amendment..."
"I."
"... #1 to House Bill 2400. And on that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Piel."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Maybe a question, and you can just agree or non-agree with me, Mr. Bowman."
"I will do one or the other, sir."
"Ours has a ... the way it went over there was a thousand 94 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 dollars with the show of need. The way it came back from the Senate was a 500 dollar one year. You didn't have to show need. It would just be anybody in the top five percent. Is that correct?"
"That's correct."
"Thank you. I would support your Motion."
"Thank you."
"Gentleman from Bureau, Mr. Mautino."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To Representative Bowman, if I may. If this Bill goes to a Conference Committee, is it your intention to allow for a grant proposal for those academically... academic achievers very similar to what the Senate Amendment is, or is it your intention to eliminate totally the grant provision, unless it's based on need? Because I believe that there should be... I sponsored the legislation five, six years ago with Don Anderson that implemented this program so that the achievers would receive some recognition for the excellent work they've done in high school. I would not want to see the provisions of this Amendment to be totally eliminated."
"I think I can guarantee, as much as we can guarantee anything around here, that when you see the Conference Committee Report, there will be a... part of it will award all achievers."
"Okay. Fine. Thank you."
"We will have a compromise."
"Further discussion? Question is, 'Shall the House nonconcur with Senate Amendment 1 to House Bill 2400?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the House does nonconcur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2400. Now, we will return to Senate... to House Bill 377. Mr. Levin's. Is Mr. Vinson in the 95 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 chamber? I don't want to take... Mr. Vinson, we are returning to House Bill 877. Mr. Levin."
"Mr. Speaker, can we take it out of the record for a little while? Mr. Vinson and I are in the process of conferring on it."
"Alright. Mr. Levin, if that's your pleasure, that's your pleasure. On the Order on Concurrence appears House Bill 2458. Motions nonconcur. Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Capparelli. Mr. Capparelli. On page seven of the Calendar."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to nonconcur with Senate Amendments, and I would ask the House to support me."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Capparelli, moves that the House does nonconcur with Senate Amendment 1 to House Bill 2458. On that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the House nonconcur with Senate Amendment 1?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the House does nonconcur with Senate Amendment #1. On the Order of Concurrence, nonconcurrence Motions, appears Senate Bill 2576. 2576. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Terzich."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, 2576 is regarding the Police Training Act which would include correctional officers to be... go through the police training. There has to be some technical changes made on the Bill to put it in proper order. And so, therefore, I'd move to nonconcur."
"The Gentleman from Cook has moved that the House do nonconcur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2576. There being no discussion... Yes, the Gentleman from Adams, Mr. Mays." 96 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. On this Amendment that we're nonconcurring in it seems like it was a technical Amendment or a cleanup Amendment in its own right. Are you saying there's more cleanup, nonsubstantive?"
"I've got from the... I got it from the director of police training, Mr. Appa, that wanted to put it in the proper order so that they could exercise the thing. So, I'm adopting his changes to put it in its proper order."
"So, if you're nonconcurring in, you're saying we need technical, nonsubstantive changes to make it all..."
"That's correct."
"Fine."
"Question is, 'Shall the House nonconcur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2576?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the House does nonconcur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2576. On the Order of Concurrence, nonconcurrence Motions, appears House Bill 2693. Mr. Keane? 2693. Out of the record. On the Order of Concurrences... Yes, Mr. Vinson, for what purpose do you seek recognition? Mr. Vinson, what... for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Yes, will the Sponsor yield for a question?"
"To what? What Sponsor? We don't have a Bill on the floor."
"2693, nonconcurrence on #1."
"No, we took it out of the record."
"Oh, I see. The Clerk just can't get it off the board, huh?"
"On the Order of Nonconcurrence... of Concurrence, nonconcurrence Motions, appears House Bill 2810. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. I'm sorry, the Lady from Kane, Miss Deuchler." 37 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Mr. Speaker, I move to nonconcur with Senate Amendment 2. It effectively strikes the effect of Senate Amendment 1, and Representative McMaster has taken care of Senate Amendment 2 in one of his Bills."
"Excuse me, Representative, there is on this Bill Senate Amendments 1 and 2."
"Yes."
"You wish to..."
"I move to nonconcur."
"Concur? You wish to..."
"I have moved to concur with Senate Amendment 1 and nonconcur with Senate Amendment 2."
"Alright. The Lady from Kane moves to concur with Senate Amendment 1 to House Bill 2810. Is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton."
"Yes, Representative Deuchler, first of all you didn't explain what the House Bill does. Secondly, you didn't explain what the Amendment you want to concur does. Could you please do that first? And I think what you said was, you think the Senate's going to recede from their Senate Amendment #2 which really means this is going to be final passage. And so I wondered if you could explain what the Bill did and how Senate Amendment #1 modified it."
"House Bill 2810 as I am... originally proposed it set up the requirement for a referendum in townships where townships were trying to sell property at an annual town meeting by imposing a new tax and that was the way Senate... or House Bill 2810 originally went through the House. Then in the Senate we had two Amendments placed on the Bill, Senate Amendment 1 and Senate Amendment 2. Both of these Amendments had the input and advice of the townships organizations, and Senate Amendment 1 required the county boards, no later than January 1 of 1986, to 98 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 adopt a plan to alter the boundaries of townships so that each township would have an equalized assessed valuation of not less than 10 million as of the 1982 assessment year. Now this is a... a provision that townships have been interested in for many years and has their support."
"This would mean that all townships in the state would redistrict themselves?"
"This would require a referendum in... for any change in township boundaries and those townships having an assessed valuation of not less than 10 million."
"The original Bill makes it easier for a township to buy or sell its property without a referendum though, isn't that correct?"
"Yes. Yes."
"Okay. Thank you."
"Further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2810?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Motion there are 88 voting 'aye', 13 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present', and the House does concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2810. The Representative from Kane, Representative Deuchler. The Representative from Kane... The Representative... The Lady from Kane, Representative Deuchler, moves that the House do nonconcur in Senate Amendment #2. On that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the House nonconcur in Senate Amendment #2?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the House does nonconcur in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 2810. On the Order of Concurrence, Motions to nonconcur, appears 99 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 House Bill 2837. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Ronan. On page nine of the Calendar, Mr. Ronan."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I move to nonconcur in Senate Amendments 1, 2 and 3."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Ronan, moves to nonconcur in Senate Amendments #1, 2 and 3 to House Bill 2837. And on that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from DeWitt, Mr. Vinson."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I wonder if the Sponsor might yield for a few questions?"
"Indicates he will."
"Representative, would you explain the Amendments and why it is that the Amendments are bad Amendments or what you might want to get into this Bill in addition to the Amendments?"
"Representative Vinson, these Amendments are not the kind of Amendments that I think we should look at at this point. So that, I think, we'll nonconcur and do a little work on this Bill."
"Could you outline what you mean by a little work?"
"Sure, Representative Vinson, I'm sure that you and I will work together this last week and come up with something that we can all agree on."
"I rise in support of the Gentleman's Motion then."
"Further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the House nonconcur in Senate Amendments 1, 2 and 3 to House Bill 2837?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it, and the House does nonconcur in Senate Amendments #1, 2 and 3. On the Order of Nonconcurrence appears House Bill 2892, Mr. Steczo."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, House Bill 2892 was the Bill that we... this House had passed with 100 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 relation to stipends for clerks of the Circuit Court. During the deliberations in the House, we had amended a Bill, both the House version and the Senate version, to delete reference to the Circuit Court Clerk of Cook County. The Senate opted to put that provision back in. I believe it is not the will of this House to do that; and therefore, I would ask to nonconcur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2892."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Steczo, moves to nonconcur with Senate Amendment 1 to House Bill 2892. Is there any discussion? The Gentleman from DeWitt, Mr. Vinson."
"Yes, would the Sponsor yield for a question?"
"Indicates that he will."
"Representative, your intention is to have... try to get the Senate to recede from Amendment #1."
"Representative Vinson, yes, it is. I would hope that they would recede from Amendment #1. This Bill, this provision, or this concept has been before this House twice. In each case we have passed it without the provision relating to the Cook County Circuit Court Clerk. So, therefore, I feel it's in our best interest to have it perceived that way."
"Thank you."
"Further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the House concur... nonconcur in Amendment #1 to Senate Bill... to House Bill 2892?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the House does nonconcur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2892. On the Order of Concurrence, Motions to nonconcur, appears House Bill 2917. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Steczo." 101 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, I would move to nonconcur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2917. The Senate attached an Amendment with relation to senior citizens' housing in townships which we think is fine. But we have just been made aware of a few other problems that have cropped up, and we would like an opportunity to take House Bill 2917 to Conference Committee to try to iron those problems out. And I would ask for a nonconcurrence."
"The Gentleman moves that the House do nonconcur with Senate Amendment 1 to House Bill 2917. Is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the House nonconcur with Senate Amendment #1?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the House does nonconcur... and the House does nonconcur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2917. On the Order of Concurrence, Motions to nonconcur, appears House Bill 2953. The Gentleman from Rock Island, Mr. Brunsvold. On page nine of the Calendar."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, House Bill 2953 started out as a request for a foreign trade zone for Rock Island, Moline, East Moline, Silvis and Milan. And then Senate Amendment #2 was added which expanded the area to be covered to any county, city, village or town within the state or a public or private corporation authorized to license to do business in the state. So it expanded the role of foreign trade zones for application to anyone in the state. And Amendment #2 restricted - no foreign trade zone can be established within 50 miles of another trade zone. So with that I would motion not to concur with Senate Amendments 2 and 3."
"The question is... Further discussion? There 102 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 being none, the question is, 'Shall the House nonconcur with Senate Amendments 2 and 3 to House Bill 2953?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the House does nonconcur with Senate Amendments 2 and 3 to House Bill 2953. Mr. Levin. On the Order of Concurrence appears House Bill 877. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Levin."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Representative Vinson and myself have finished our conference, and at this point I would like to renew my Motion to nonconcur in Amendments #1 to House Bill 877."
"The Gentleman from Cook moves to nonconcur with House Amendment 1 to Senate Bill... with Senate Amendment 1 to House Bill 877. On that, is there any discussion? Mr. Vinson. Mr. Vinson. The Gentleman from DeWitt, Mr. Vinson."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker."
"Do you wish to renew your Motion?"
"I beg your pardon?"
"Do you wish to renew your Motion?"
"No, I'm in favor of the Motion to nonconcur."
"Mr. Vinson, you have deprived the Chair of an opportunity to make one of the great rulings of this House. We will save it for another day. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton."
"What about that speech that he gave though when he spoke in opposition to the Gentleman's Motion to nonconcur?"
"Well that was in a prior life, Mr. Cullerton, and his speeches are like the sands of time. Yes, Mr. Vinson."
"Mr. Levin has consulted with me as to what he intends to 103 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 put into this Bill in Conference Committee. I think that it's a good idea of what he intends to do, and I believe that we ought to nonconcur and get this Bill to Conference Committee so that we can accomplish Mr. Levin's objective."
"So, Mr. Speaker, that means if anybody wants to nonconcur, they should go over and check with Sam to see if it's okay and tell them what they intend to put it in the Conference Committee."
"The question is, 'Shall the House nonconcur with Senate Amendment 1 to House Bill 877?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the House does nonconcur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 877. Mr. Levin, your Motion was for 1. Your Motion was on Amendment #1 so you would renew your Motion as to Amendment #2. Alright. The question is, 'Shall the House nonconcur in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 877?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the House does nonconcur in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 877. On the Order of Concurrences, nonconcurrence Motions, appears House Bill 2987. Out of the record. On the Order of Concurrences, nonconcurrence Motions, appears House Bill 3059. Mr. Brunsvold, the Gentleman from Rock Island. Is he in the chamber? Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Conconcurrence, nonconcurrence Motions, appears House Bill 3177, Mr. Keane."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to nonconcur to Senate Amendment... House Bill 3177."
"The Gentleman from Cook moves that the House nonconcur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3177. Is there any discussion? Being none, the question is, 'Shall the House nonconcur in Senate Amendment #1?' All in favor 104 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the House does nonconcur with Senate Amendment #1. Yes, Mr. Keane."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I wasn't here when I think you called House Bill 2693."
"I was going to return to that, Mr. Keane, as long as we have you on the hook. On the Order of Concurrence, nonconcurrence Motions, appears House Bill 2693. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Keane."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I move to nonconcur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2693."
"The Gentleman from Cook moves to nonconcur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2693. Is there any discussion? The Gentleman from DeWitt, Mr. Vinson."
"Yes, I wonder if the Sponsor might yield for a question, Mr. Speaker?"
"Indicates he will."
"Representative, what's wrong with that provision?"
"I'm sorry I didn't hear you."
"I say what is wrong with Senate Amendment #1?"
"We are trying to clean up some mechanical problems because of pending federal legislation. Does that satisfy... I'll repeat it, we are trying... It's just for... It's going back for some mechanical cleanup because we... of pending federal legislation."
"The... My only concern is that the Bill itself appeared to deal with the federal audit thing and... where required by the Federal Government. And it appeared that all the Amendment did was to broaden that so that the Legislative Audit Commission could request one even when the feds didn't. And I just... I thought that that was good authority for the Audit Commission."
"That's the law now. Basically what we're going to do is 105 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 send it back, use it as a vehicle for pending federal legislation on the cleanup, on mechanical cleanup."
"Okay."
"Thank you."
"The question is, 'Shall the House nonconur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2693?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the House does nonconcur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2693. Representative DiPrima, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Yes, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, we have with us today our former city... State Treasurer, Mr. Cosentino, right here, Jerry Cosentino. We also have Alderman Roman Pucinski. That's Capparelli's alderman."
"Mr. Steczo, are you prepared on 23... 2987? On the Order of Concurrences, nonconcurrence Motions, appears House Bill 2987. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Steczo."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 2987 is a Bill that we passed which allows the Commerce Commission to encourage various kinds of energy conservation measures. The Senate put Amendment #1 on. That would deal with public television stations in Rockford. That's acceptable to me. However, it's come to our attention that there are some other problems related to the Commerce Commission that have to be addressed before the Session adjourns. And, therefore, Mr. Speaker, I would ask for nonconcurrence in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2987."
"Mr. Steczo, is that Amendment 2 or Amendment #1? They... you only have 2."
"I'm sorry, Mr. Speaker, Amendment #2."
"Alright, thank you. The Gentleman from Cook 106 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 moves that the House nonconcur in Senate Amendment 2 to House Bill 2987. Is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the House nonconcur?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the House does nonconcur in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 2987. We are now on the Order of Senate Bills Third Reading. We will be considering only those Bills on Senate Bills Third Reading which are appropriations for which there has been a request to return the Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purpose of an Amendment. And on that Order appears Senate Bill 1510, Mr.... 1510, Mr. Keane. Out of the record. On that Order of Business appears... Senate Bills Third Reading appears Senate Bill 1513, Mr. Leverenz. Out of the record. 1534. Out of the record. 1515, Mr. Hastert. Mr. Hastert. Out of the record. 1551. The Lady from Cook, Miss Barnes. 1553, Miss Barnes. We are on the Order of Senate Bills Third Reading... Bills... On that Order, Senate Bill 1513. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz. Mr. Leverenz."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'd ask leave to take this Bill back to the Order of Second Reading."
"The Gentleman from Cook asks leave of the House to return the Bill to the Order of Second Reading for purposes of an Amendment. Does the Gentleman have leave? He has leave. Mr. Clerk."
"Amendment #1, offered by Representative Leverenz."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #1 would reduce the level of payout on the retirement as we did this morning. It would delete $11,251. I would move for the adoption of 107 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1513."
"The Gentleman from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1513. Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by... Mr. Mays, your light is not working. Alright, it's on now. Mr. Mays."
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield for a question?"
"Indicates he will."
"What's the agency that this is the... reducing the retirement for?"
"I think this was specifically your retirement, but I've learned since that it is the State Treasurer's budget."
"To the Amendment. You know all morning long we have been doing exactly the same thing as we are seeking to do on this particular Amendment - reducing the funding levels for the retirement systems across the board from 67 to 60 percent. We've not been selective in the past, and I guess if we're going to apply the clean sweep we ought to go ahead and support this Amendment and all those subsequent Amendments that we will be seeing on this topic matter. I would suggest, however, that all of the Amendments that we have been adopting by voice votes, increasing various agency budgets, be scrutinized in the future as well as in Conference Committee, so that we may be able to reverse the trend that has emerged this... early this week. So I'm personally going to yell 'no' or vote 'no', however the requirement comes down, and I would hope that others would join me."
"Mr. Leverenz."
"I guess without any further questions - to the State 108 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Treasurer's retirement line item. We are deleting 11,251 by the Amendment, and I would ask also that we adopt the Amendment and provide leave for Representative Mays to be journalized as a big 'no' vote. Thank you."
"The Gentleman has moved... The question is, 'Shall the House adopt Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1513?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House... Senate Bills Third Reading appears Senate Bill 1534. Mr. Leverenz, the Gentleman from Cook."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For the budget of the Office of Comptroller, I would ask leave that we be allowed to take the Bill back to Second Reading."
"The Gentleman from Cook moves... asks leave of the House to return the Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purpose Amendment. Does the Gentleman have leave? Leave is granted. Mr. Clerk."
"Amendment #4, offered by Representative Leverenz."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz, on Amendment #4."
"The Amendment would reduce the funding for retirement from 66 to 60 percent. It is roughly... roughly $40,000 reduction. I would ask for the adoption of Amendment #4."
"The Gentleman from Cook has moved for the adoption of Amendment #4 to Senate Bill 1534. On that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment 109 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Representative Breslin in the Chair."
"On page two on your Calendar is Senate Bill 1550, Representative Hastert. Representative Hastert asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing no objections, the Gentleman has leave. Mr. Clerk."
"Amendment #7, offered by Representative Didrickson."
"Representative Didrickson."
"Madam Speaker, I'd like to ask leave to withdraw Floor Amendment #5."
"Withdraw Amendment #5."
"Thank you. I offer Amendment #7 which is simply a technical Amendment. It cleans up a typo that was in Amendment #5."
"Mr. Clerk, what is the status of Amendment #5?"
"Amendment #5 was adopted."
"The Lady, therefore, moves to table Amendment #5 to Senate Bill 1550. And on that question, Representative Leverenz."
"Will the Sponsor of the Amendment yield?"
"Representative Didrickson."
"Would you explain what happened in Amendment #5 which apparently was adopted that you're cleaning up with 7?"
"Yes, Amendment #5 had on page three line 26, it said by deleting $288,100 is what we want to put in with Amendment #7. Amendment #5 had a typo that incorrectly stated $228,100. That's the prevention line."
"Alright, you're tabling 5." 110 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Correct."
"Replacing it with 7. Thank you."
"Correct."
"The Lady moves to table Amendment #5 to Senate Bill 1550. All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is tabled. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #7, Didrickson."
"Representative Didrickson."
"Yes, Amendment #7 now makes that correction and inserts $288,100."
"The Lady moves to adopt Amendment #7 to Senate Bill 1550, and on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #7 to Senate Bill 1550 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1551, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1551, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense for the commissioner of banks and trust companies. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Barnes. The Lady asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Are there any objections? Hearing no objections, Mr. Clerk."
"Amendment #2, offered by Representative Leverenz."
"This Bill is on Second Reading. On Amendment 111 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 #2, Representative Leverenz."
"Ask leave to withdraw Amendment #2."
"Withdraw Amendment #2. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1553, Representative Barnes. The Lady asks leave to take this Bill out of the record. Senate Bill 1554, Representative Barnes."
"I'd like to bring it back for purposes of an Amendment."
"The Lady asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Hearing no objections, the Lady has leave. The Bill is on Second Reading. Mr. Clerk."
"Amendment... We've got a Motion here first..."
"Representative Leverenz, Representative Barnes indicated she did not want to bring 1553 back for the purposes of an Amendment, so she went to 1554. Representative Leverenz."
"I think she might want to just take this out of the record."
"Very good, out of the record. Senate Bill 1556. Senate Bill 1552, Representative Barnes."
"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I'd like to bring House... Senate Bill 1552 back for purposes of an Amendment."
"The Lady asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Hearing no objections, the Lady has leave."
"Amendment #7, offered by Representative Barnes."
"Representative Barnes. Representative Barnes, you have been recognized on Amendment #7."
"Madam Chairman, Senate Bill 1552 is one that we wanted 112 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 to hold. Senate Bill 53 (sic - 1553) is the one we wanted to bring back for purposes of an Amendment."
"Representative Leverenz."
"Did she now take 1552 out of the record as planned?"
"She is asking for that now. Take Senate Bill 1552 out of the record and move it back to Third Reading. Representative Barnes?"
"Yes."
"Okay. Move Senate Bill 1552 back to Third Reading, then take it out of the record. Senate Bill 1553."
"Madam Speaker, Representative Leverenz has all these Amendments, and I would like to bring Senate Bill 1553 back to Second for purposes of an Amendment."
"The Lady asks leave to return this Bill back to Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Hearing no objections, the Lady has leave. Mr. Clerk."
"Amendment #1, offered by Representative Leverenz."
"Representative Leverenz."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #1 removes $1,450 from the Commission's retirement line item. I would move for the adoption of Amendment #1."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1553. And on that question, is there any discussion? Seeing no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1553 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1556, Representative Barnes. Representative Barnes asks leave 113 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Hearing no objections, the Lady has leave. Mr. Clerk."
Clerk O'Brien: "Amendment #2, offered by Representative Leverenz."
"Representative Leverenz."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. On Amendment #2, it would reduce the payment of contributions to the retirement system by $4,100 in general revenue. And I guess Representative Mays would like to be journalized again as 'no' on all of these. I would move for the adoption of Amendment #2."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1556. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1556 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those... Representative Van Duyne."
"Without any further remarks, could I be journalized as voting 'no' also?"
Speaker Breslin: "Excuse me. Would you repeat that, Representative Van Duyne?"
"I understand that this is another one of those Bills where it diminishes the participation of the State of Illinois in a retirement plan. And if that's true, I would like to be journalized as voting 'no' also, along with Mr. Mays."
"Representative Van Duyne, we do not journalize anyone on a voice vote."
"Well then I would like to ask for a Roll Call Vote."
"Very good, that's fine. All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no' on Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1556. Voting is open. Have all voted who 114 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 45 voting 'aye', 24 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. And the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1559, Representative Barnes. The Lady asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Hearing no objection, the Lady has leave. Representative Barnes."
"Amendment #..."
"Excuse me. Mr. Clerk."
"Amendment #3, offered by Representative Leverenz."
"Representative Leverenz."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. On Senate Bill 1559, we have a tidy-up Amendment that would reduce the appropriation by 13,500 in the Retirement Fund line item. It would be at the 60% payout level. And I would move for the adoption of Amendment #3."
"The Gentleman moves to adopt Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 1559. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 1559 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 65 voting 'aye', 18 voting 'no', none voting 'present'. And the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Ladies and Gentlemen, on the Order of Motions on page twelve on your Calendar appears 115 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Senate Bill 1893. That's the Order of Motions on page twelve on your Calendar. The Chair calls Senate Bill 1893. Mr. Clerk, read the Motion."
Clerk O'Brien: "Motion. 'Pursuant to Rule 77(a), I move to discharge Committee on the World's Fair and further consideration of Senate Bill 1893 and advance to the Order of Second Reading, Second Legislative Day,' offered by Representative Nash and Bullock."
"Representative Nash on the Motion."
"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I ask for a favorable Roll Call on this Motion. The Committee had to recess. There wasn't enough time to take a vote on it, and that's why this Motion was necessary."
"The Gentleman has moved to discharge the Committee on the World's Fair and advance this Bill to the Order of Second Reading, Second Legislative Day. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Speaker Madigan."
"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this Motion would discharge the Committee on the World's Fair from further consideration of Senate Bill 1893 which provides for a continued study of the World's Fair in Chicago. It would provide for permanent funding for the McCormick Place expansion in Chicago. And it would provide for a Statewide Tourism Program. The plan is to simply take the Bill from Committee today and place the Bill on the Order of Second Reading. We do not plan to move to consideration of Amendments today, but rather to move to consideration of Amendments tomorrow. So, Madam Speaker, I would rise in support of the Gentleman's Motion."
Speaker Breslin: "The Gentleman from Marion, Representative Friedrich."
"Madam Speaker, I am sorry that we're dealing with this subject at this late date. But the Senate Bill did 116 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 not come over, and the House hearings were held as quickly as possible, but there was not time to consider all of the Amendments. So, I'm going to support this. I think it's also unfortunate that these three issues got all tied up in one package because it's kind of a all or nothing saying. I think everybody is for tourism, and I think a lot of people for McCormick Place. I think some people have mixed emotions about the Fair, but I guess this is one way of bringing it out to the Body for consideration of the various Amendments. And for that reason I'm going to support this Motion to discharge. But as I say I do think it's unfortunate from the standpoint that we're considering this very complicated matter in the last few days of the Session and that we're considering all three matters at one time, which makes it a little more complicated than ever."
"The Lady from Cook, Representative Currie. The Lady has decided she does not wish to speak. Ladies and Gentlemen, the question is, 'Shall the House Committee on the World's...' Representative Mulcahey."
"Yes, Madam Speaker, this does require a Roll Call Vote. Is that correct?"
"Yes, it does."
"Thank you."
"The question is, 'Shall the House discharge the Committee on the World's Fair and advance Senate Bill 1893 to the Order of Second Reading?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Representative Mulcahey to explain his vote."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I just... to explain my vote very briefly. If there's ever been a Bill before this General Assembly in recent years that ought to stay in Committee for another week, another six weeks, another six months, it's this one right here. Now there are those of 117 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 you who are... who support the World's Fair, those of you who support tourism. There are those of you who support McCormick Place, whatever the case may be. All three of these are wrapped up in one Bill, one Bill. It's all right here. Now if you're for the World's Fair, if you think it's going to do the job, then go ahead and vote green, and let them ramrod this thing through because that's exactly what's going to happen. Now you can't separate the other two issues. So, there's only one question you have to ask yourself. Are you in favor of the World's Fair? Are you in favor of bailing out McCormick Place? If you are, vote green. If you're not, vote 'no'."
"Have all voted who wish? This Bill requires 60 votes... This Motion requires 60 votes for adoption. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Motion, there are 72 voting 'aye', 39 voting 'no' and 4 voting 'present'. And the Motion is adopted. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill a second time, please."
"Senate Bill 1893, a Bill for an Act creating the Tourism Fund in the State Treasury, authorizing deposits of revenue therein, and transfers and appropriations therefrom and amending Acts relating thereto. Second Reading of the Bill."
"Ladies and Gentlemen, this Bill has been read a second time. Tomorrow we will entertain Amendments and Motions on this Bill. Back on page three on your Calendar on the Order of Appropriation Bills that need to be brought back to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment appears Senate Bill 1562. That is on page three on your Calendar. Senate Bill 1562. Representative Barnes. The Lady asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Does the Lady have leave? Hearing no objections, the Lady 119 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 has leave. Mr. Clerk."
"Amendment #1, offered by Representative Barnes."
"Representative Barnes."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this Amendment breaks out various line items which concurrently are appropriated to the Department of Insurance exclusively from general revenue. Between general revenue and the new Insurance Producer Administration Fund, which will be established January 1, 1985, pursuant to the provisions of House Bill 1134, the Amendment distributed the Department of Insurance Fiscal Year '85 appropriation between the General Revenue Fund and the Insurance Producer Administration Fund. The total for the Bill is still $7,829,100. There is no change in the total dollars appropriated to the Department of Insurance. This new fund will be funded by receipts collected by the Department for annual insurance producer license renewal fees. This single license will replace all the agent and broker licenses which the Department of Insurance currently issues and which do not expire until March 1 of '85. The monies in this new fund will be used to pay for all of the functions of the Department's consumer division except for its market conduct activities, as well as that division's allocated share of support services provided by the administrative support, EDP, and staff services division. A total of $498,100 will be appropriated out of the new fund for the direct activities of the consumers' division which include: (1) producer regulation; (2) licensing; (3) policy form evaluation; (4) consumer services. Activities of other divisions which support the consumer division and will be funded out of this new fund include: Administrative Support Services $296,100; (1) collection and processing of fees for the licensing of insurance producers; (2) 119 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 maintenance of consumer division files and records; (3) postage and processing of mail; (4) rental of office space; (5) word processing; and, (6) graphic services. I would ask for the adoption of Amendment #1."
"The Lady has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1562. And on that question, is there any discussion? Seeing no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1562 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Barnes."
"Representative Barnes."
"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment #2 restores $25,000 of the $50,000 which the Senate cut from general revenue in the contractual service line for the Administrative Support Division of the Department of Insurance. Recent events concerning the rehabilitation of the Baldwin United Companies show that the Department will need this money which was budgeted for legal services. I would ask for an adoption of this Amendment."
"The Lady moves to adopt Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1562. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1562 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Leverenz."
"Representative Leverenz." 120 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #3 would provide one dollar funding for the entire Department for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department. I would move for the adoption of the Amendment."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 1562. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 1562 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1564. Representative Barnes. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1567. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1573. Representative Hastert. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1573, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense for the Prisoner Review Board. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Hastert asks leave of the Assembly to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing no objections, the Gentleman has leave. Mr. Clerk."
"Amendment #3, offered by Representative Bowman."
"Representative Bowman, on Amendment #3. Representative Bowman."
"Thank you. Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment #3 reduces funding for retirement contributions by $2,700 as amended. This funding level reduces the payout ratio to 60% from the Senate approved 121 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 66% level. I move its adoption."
"The Gentleman moves to adopt Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 1573. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 1573 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 67 voting 'aye', 21 voting 'no' and 5 voting 'present'. And this Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1575, Representative Hastert. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1575, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Governor's Purchase Care Review Board. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Gentleman asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Does the Gentlemen have leave? Hearing no objections, the Gentleman has leave. Mr. Clerk."
"Amendment #2, offered by Representative Leverenz."
"Representative Leverenz."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 would reduce the level of retirement by $400. I would move for the adoption of Amendment #2."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1575. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1575 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the 122 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1576, Representative Barnes. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1579. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1581, Representative Barnes. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1586, Representative Nash. Representative Nash. Take 1586 out of the record. Ladies and Gentlemen, on the Order of Senate Bills Third Reading, appropriations only, appears Senate Bill 1590. Representative Keane. This is Third Reading of the Bill. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1590, a Bill for an Act making certain appropriations for higher education. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Keane."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker... or Madam Speaker. Senate Bill 1590 is the appropriations for the Board of Higher Education. I'd be happy to answer any questions on the Bill and ask for a favorable Roll Call."
"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1590. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1590 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 107 voting 'aye', none voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1591, Representative Satterthwaite. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1591, a Bill for an Act making certain appropriations of the Board of Trustees of the University of Illinois. Third Reading of the Bill." 123 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Representative Satterthwaite."
"Madam Speaker and Members of the House, this is the appropriation for the University of Illinois. It is in the same condition in which it came from the Senate appropriating $463,000,000. It's about 6.9% increase over last year's expenditure level. I would be happy to try to respond to questions."
"The Lady has moved for passage of Senate Bill 1591. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1591 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 105 voting 'aye', none voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1592, Representative Keane. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1592, a Bill for an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of Southern Illinois University. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Keane."
"Thank you. This... Senate Bill 1592 is the appropriation for ordinary and contingent expenses of Southern Illinois University. And I would ask for the approval of Senate Bill 1592."
"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1592. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1592 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 102 voting 'aye', 4 voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is 124 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1593, Representative Ropp. Representative Ropp. Representative Bowman, for what reason do you rise?"
"Well, with leave of the House I'd be happy... it came through my Committee. I'd be happy to handle it for Representative Ropp."
"The Gentleman asks leave to handle this Bill on behalf of Representative Ropp. Hearing no objections, proceed, Representative Bowman. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1593 (sic - Senate Bill 1593), a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Board of Regents. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Bowman."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This appropriation is for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Board of Regents. The Senate amended it to provide for the appropriation of the increased tuitions. And the House Committee found nothing to modify. There's no Committee Amendment, no Floor Amendment. I urge that we approve this Bill and send it to the Governor today. And I move for its adoption... I move for its passage."
"The Gentleman has moved for passage of Senate Bill 1593. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1593 be passed?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'aye', none voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1594, Representative Keane. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1594, a Bill for an Act making 125 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 appropriation to the Board of Governors of state colleges and universities. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Keane."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Senate Bill 1594 is the ordinary... appropriation for ordinary and contingent expenses of the Board of Governors of state colleges and universities. I'd ask for a favorable Roll Call."
"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1594. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1594 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 109 voting 'aye', none voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1621, Representative Satterthwaite. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1621, a Bill for an Act making a supplemental appropriation of the Board of Trustees of the University of Illinois. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Satterthwaite."
"Madam Speaker and Members of the House, this is a supplemental appropriation to the Board of Trustees of the University of Illinois in the amount of $645,000 as a result of fire damage in two buildings on campus at the Urbana location. These were fires that had been deliberately set apparently, and a person has been apprehended. But because we do not carry insurance, a supplemental appropriation of this sort has to be requested. I'd be happy to answer questions."
"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1621. And on that question, the Gentleman from 126 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Effingham, Representative Brummer."
"Yes, will the Sponsor yield?"
"She will yield for a question."
"What are these buildings?"
"There were two buildings on the Urbana campus. One is the lumus lab, and one is noise lab."
"Okay. Why in the world does not the University of Illinois carry insurance for fire on the buildings? I mean I support the University of Illinois, I think, on all their appropriations, but I find it hard to believe that an entity such as the U of I would not carry insurance."
"The practice has been with the University properties, as well as with state property in general, that no insurance is carried. It would be prohibitably expensive to carry insurance on an annual basis. And studies have shown that it is more practical simply to absorb the cost when there is damage occurring."
"You mean most state buildings are not insured."
"That's my understanding."
"Do you know if the building in which we stand is insured for wind or fire?"
"I have no idea, but my understanding is that none of the state properties are insured for fire damage."
"Thank you."
"On that question, Representative Hastert."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. If I could just speak very briefly and try to clear some of this stuff up. We did talk about this in Appropriations to some extent. We had statistics provided to us to show that it's economical not to insure. If we insured all the state university buildings and all the state buildings, it would really be a prohibitive amount as was stated before. We've also asked the state officials to provide us with further statistics 127 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 and information on this procedure. There is an exception. Dormitories and those types of things where it has personal property in it are insured. But buildings, the standard university-type buildings and buildings that the state provides does not have insurance."
"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1621 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. The Gentleman from Knox, Representative Hawkinson, one minute to explain his vote."
"Madam Speaker, this is on a point of personal privilege. Would the record show that the Clerk's Office has just changed my... put in a new switch on my 'no' button and that I intended on Senate Bill 1574 Amendment 21 to vote 'no' and on Senate Bill 1559 Amendment 3 to vote 'no' but that the 'no' switch did not work?"
"Your remarks will be transcribed, Representative Hawkinson. The Clerk will take the record on Senate Bill 1621. On this Bill there are 107 voting 'aye', 2 voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1654; Representative Leverenz. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1654, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Illinois Arts Council. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Leverenz."
"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is the ordinary and contingent expenses for the Illinois Arts Council. We are passing it at the Senate level of 6,051,100, and the request originally was 6,963,600. If there are any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. I ask for your 'aye' vote." 128 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"The Gentleman has moved for passage of Senate Bill 1654. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1654 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 97 voting 'aye', 4 voting 'no' and 10 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. With leave of the Assembly, we will now go back to Representative Nash's Bill, Senate Bill 1586. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1586, a Bill for an Act making appropriation to certain officers and agencies. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Nash asks leave to return Senate Bill 1686... 1586... Representative Friedrich, for what reason do you rise?"
"Madam Speaker, if you're looking for something to do, 1474 and 1510 I don't think will be controversial."
"I'm sorry. I can't even hear you, Representative Friedrich."
"1474 and 1510 I don't believe are controversial if you want to consider them."
"Just one moment, Representative. Out of the record on Senate Bill 1586. Ladies and Gentlemen, with leave of the Body the Chair would now like to go to page five on your Calendar, Senate Bills Third Reading, Senate Bill 1549. Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1549, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Agriculture. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Lady asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. 129 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Hearing no objections, the Lady has leave. Mr. Clerk."
"Amendment #14, offered by Representative Brummer."
"Representative Brummer."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the Assembly. Amendment 14 adds 48... excuse me, $98,000 appropriation for grandstand renovation at the 4-H Center in Lawrence County. It is similar to provisions that we have done with regard to county fairs in other areas. In fact, I think there was a prior Amendment on here by Representative Friedrich regarding renovation of the grandstand at the Marion County Fairgrounds. I would ask for a favorable vote."
"The Gentleman asks for the adoption of Amendment #14 to Senate Bill 1549. And on that question, the Gentlemen from McLean, Representative Ropp."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"
"The Gentleman will yield for a question."
"Representative, is this a new construction or a replacement or a old one, and did you have any insurance on it?"
"It is a renovation."
"I thought at some time a number of years ago we decided not to do that."
"I think we did so last year or the year before with regard to White County and with regard to Richland County. Representative Friedrich has one on here with regard to Marion County. It's Amendment... I don't know what Amendment it is. In fact, it's $350,000 or something of this nature. You know, it seems that we have continued to do that practice for some time."
"Is this General Revenue or Ag Premium Fund?"
"It is GRF." 130 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Okay. Thank you."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #14 to Senate Bill 1548 (sic-Senate Bill 1549). All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On page five on your Calendar, Ladies and Gentlemen, appears Senate Bill 1595 on the Order of Second Reading. Representative Stuffle. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1595, a Bill for an Act making appropriation to the Illinois Community College Board and the Board of Trustees of the State Community College of East St. Louis for the Fiscal Year 1985. This Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was tabled; 2 was adopted; 3 was withdrawn; 4 was adopted; And we were on Amendment #5, offered by Representative Hannig - Rea and Mulcahey."
"Representative Hannig."
"Yes, would you withdraw that Amendment?"
"The Gentleman moves to adopt Amendment #5 to Senate... Excuse me. Withdraw Amendment #5. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #6, Mulcahey - Rea and Hannig."
"Representative Mulcahey."
"Well, Madam Speaker, against my better instincts I reluctantly... very reluctantly withdraw Amendment #6."
"Withdraw Amendment #6. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #7, offered by Representative Hannig."
"Representative Hannig." 131 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Yes, thank you, Madam Speaker. In an effort to move this Bill along, I would move to withdraw this Amendment."
"Withdraw Amendment #7. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Ladies and Gentlemen, I am told that when I announced the adoption of Amendment #14 to the last Bill, I announced Senate Bill 1548. That was supposed to be Senate Bill 1549 for the record. Let the record also show that Representative Hawkinson's switch has been replaced by the electrician. Representative Hawkinson."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like leave of the Body to be recorded as voting 'no' on Amendment #21 to Senate Bill 1574 and voting 'no' on Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 1559, which occurred just prior to my switch being replaced."
"Thank you, Representative. The Gentleman asks leave to be so recorded on those Bills as he had intended to vote in the first place. Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing no objections, the Gentleman has leave. On the Order of Concurrences on page six on your Calendar appears House Bill 598. Ladies and Gentlemen we are on page six on your Calendar on the Order of Concurrences. The first Bill on that Order is House Bill 598, Representative Braun. Representative Braun. Is the Lady in the chamber? Take the Bill out of the record. House Bill 877, Representative Levin. House Bill 1190, Representative Steczo. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1190, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code together with Senate Amendments #1 and 2."
"Representative Steczo."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would ask for concurrence 132 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 in Senate Amendments #1 and #2 to House Bill 1190. Senate Amendment #2 provided just a clarification of the intent of the original Bill which deals with local school district reorganization, and it was meant as a cleanup. Amendment #2 dealt with transportation, and it clarified that combined school districts must only provide pupil transportation if the combined district includes any school district which was previously required to provide pupil transportation. Amendment #1 is the exact language that was passed by this House unanimously in House Bill 1188. And simply what that does is to take the transportation reimbursement formula and put that on a five year basis rather than a six and two-thirds year basis, as is the present law. And also it made one minor change codifying present practice regarding contracts with educational service region superintendents. And, Madam Speaker, I would like to move for concurrence on these two Amendments."
"The Gentleman has moved to concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 1190. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 1190?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 104 voting 'aye', none voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. And the House does concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 1190. House Bill 1348, Representative Brummer. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1348, a Bill for an Act in relation to occupation and use taxes together with Senate Amendment #2." 133 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Representative Brummer."
"Madam Speaker, Members of the Assembly, House Bill 1348 as it left this chamber, simply provided that when a retailer purchases manufacturing equipment... I'm sorry. When a manufacturer purchases manufacturing equipment from a retailer which is exempt from sales tax as a result of the exemption on manufacturing equipment, that if that manufacturer had a retail number, they did not have to file a certificate. That passed out of the House here with a major vote. I do not recall. I think it was near unanimous. Anyway the Senate left that portion intact and added what has generally been referred to as the Bottlers' Amendment. That Amendment arose as a result of a Illinois Supreme Court decision recently, which indicated that if a wholesaler had not obtained a retail number from the retailer, the wholesaler may be liable for the tax even though the wholesaler could show that the sale was clearly for resale. Amendment #2 in the Senate leaves the existing language regarding the requirement that the retailer or that the wholesaler obtain the number, but adds the following language, 'failure to present an active registration or resale number and a certification to the seller, that a sale is for resale, creates a presumption that the sale is not for resale. This presumption may be rebutted by other evidence that all of the seller's sales are sales for resale or that a particular sale is a sale for resale.' What that really means is, if the wholesaler does not obtain the number, the wholesaler is running a considerable risk that he or she is going to be liable for the sales tax. It creates a presumption that the sale was not for resale. However, with this Amendment the wholesaler would not be precluded from bringing in evidence that would be persuasive to the Department, to the hearing 134 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 officer, or ultimately to the court sufficient evidence to rebut that presumption and show that the sale was a sale for resale. I would be glad to respond to any questions. If there are no questions, I would move to concur with Senate Amendment #2."
"The Gentleman has moved to concur in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 1348. And on that question, the Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Would the Sponsor yield?"
"Yes."
"Just a simple question on this. This is caused... and I think you tried to explain this, I just want to clarify it. You... This is caused because some of the bottlers such as a company like distributors for Pepsi-Cola and 7up, once they are audited sometimes couldn't go back and because the nature of their business and different types of businesses that they deal with, they could not go back and get that number in many cases. Is that correct?"
"Yes. I mean it is applicable more to the bottlers. It arose specifically as a result of the Tri-America Company case. But the entities that have particular concern are the bottlers. And they have been the one that have really pushed this Amendment because they distribute to hundreds or maybe thousands of individual retailers, some of which go in and out of business. And as long as they can show that it was a sale for resale under this and can present adequate testimony to rebut that presumption, they would be allowed to do so."
"Thank you very much. This is a good Amendment. We support it on this side of the aisle. And it deserves everybody's affirmative vote."
"The Gentleman from McHenry, Representative 135 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Klemm."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield for a question?"
"The Gentleman will yield for a question."
"Representative Brummer, just more concern on the Senate Amendments. You say that a business would have to provide the registration number or the resale number and certification. Could you clarify what the two differences are? Could you tell me what the difference is between a registration number and/or a resale number and the certification? Is that actually... we photocopy the certificate from the Department of Revenue and must mail that to all these people that we do business with? Or is it sufficient under this intent just to give the number off of the certification or certificate?"
"Are you looking at Senate Amendment #2?"
"No, I'm not. I'm looking at a synopsis. That's why I need your clarification."
"The language in the second to last paragraph is not new language, if you have the Amendment. And it refers to a sale for resale unless the purchaser has an active registration number or a resale number. That's the existing law. Now I really cannot tell you precisely what the difference is between an active registration number or a resale number, but those are both numbers issued by the Department, and I cannot distinguish between them. What I referred to is the sales tax number, but there is apparently two different types."
"I would too. Now, if we... under that assumption they provide that number, then it would not be the presumption that the sale is not for resale? Then they would satisfy your Amendments?"
"Would you repeat that, please?" 136 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"If they provide that resale number that you and I are agreeing with, then does that satisfy the requirements of the Senate Amendment #1 and 2?"
"That is the existing law, and we are not changing that in any significant manner."
"Alright. Thank you very much."
"Under the existing law, there needs to be a... that resale number provided. And that requirement is still going to exist. What this Amendment does is creates a... an alternate methodology in those rare instances or those instances where the number isn't available or the wrong number was given. And when the Department of Revenue is auditing the wholesaler, and they punch in these numbers, and they don't show up on the computer of the Department of Revenue as an active number at that time under the existing law, there's nothing else the wholesaler can do. This Amendment will allow the wholesaler to rebut a presumption that it was not for resale by showing other evidence that, in fact, it was for resale."
"Alright. Fine. Thank you very much, and I stand in support of the Bill."
"The question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 1348?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 114 voting 'aye', and none voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. And the House does concur in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 1348. House Bill 1427, Representative Steczo. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1427, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act together with Senate Amendments #1 and 2."
"Representative Steczo." 137 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. I would move to concur in Senate Amendments #1 and #2 to House Bill 1427. Senate Amendment #1 affects Public Act 83-275 of last year's Senate Bill 341 that was passed by this General Assembly. That Bill stated where there is unemployment of 10% or more, the county board can extend the delinquency date by taxes... for taxes by 60 days. There was a technical error which could create a difficult problem in those particular counties. And Senate Amendment #1 tries to address that particular problem by saying that the... filing the correct amount of any tax paid under protest shall be made in December rather than October to conform with that legislation. Senate Amendment #2 is an exact duplicate of House Bill 1855, which passed this House by a vote of 110 to 3. And that deals with the ability of park districts to operate property such as the concession stands, et cetera, that are operated at profit while not being subjected to property taxes... property taxes in those areas. And I would ask the House to concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 1427."
"The Gentleman moves to concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 1427. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 1427?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Representative Laurino asks to be voted 'aye'. The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'aye', none voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. And the House does concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 1427. House Bill 1448, Representative Terzich. Clerk, read the Bill. This is a State Mandates Act Bill." 138 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"House Bill 1448, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to compensation of sheriffs, coroners, county treasurers, county clerks, recorders and auditors, together with Senate Amendment #1."
"Representative Terzich."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, the Bill was previously passed by the House and subsequently amended in the Senate with regard to the sheriffs and the various counties throughout the state. What it does is it adjusts the salaries' minimum to approximately the same amount as the State's Attorneys. It's been 12 years since there was any last adjustments on the minimum amount. This provision would not go into effect for another two and a half years, which would make it 14 years. And this is simply a minor adjustment in the minimums. And I'd appreciate your support in concurring with Senate Amendment #1. It received 58 votes in the Senate."
"The Gentleman has moved to concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1448. And on that question, the Gentleman from Knox, Representative McMaster."
"Will the Sponsor yield?"
"The Gentleman will yield for a question."
"Representative Terzich, did the Senate Amendment change the minimum salary on these officials from what it was when we passed it out of the House?"
"That's correct."
"A county such as mine, which is Knox County, what will now be the minimum salary of sheriff, of treasurer, clerk, all of those people?"
"This only deals with the sheriffs. And I don't know what your county is. If you tell me what the population is, I could give you an idea." 139 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Above 60."
"Around 60,000?"
"Above 60,000."
"Above 60,000. In 1986, December of '86, it would go to a minimum of $40,000."
"Don't you think that's rather high, Bob?"
"No, the... We can beat that to death, but it's been 12 years since there has been an adjustment. This would make 14 years, and under this Bill it simply provides that at the current time that they could be right in near that range at the present time. And like I say, there hasn't been any adjustment in the salary, and this would make it 14 years."
"Madam Speaker, to the Bill."
"Proceed."
"I would not be against some sort of increase for the sheriffs or any other elected county official for that matter. But my feeling is this, I think we're going a little bit overboard when we say we're going to go to a minimum salary of 40,000 per year for the sheriff in a county of my size. I feel that over the years down here many of us have tried to get out of the position of setting mandating salaries for local officials. And now we are doing just that by raising the minimum, again mandating salaries. I would rather... I have seen the time when we have taken off maximum salary limits, and I have supported that. But when we go to the position of raising the minimums, mandating in other words as far as local officials are concerned, I think that is wrong. And I would urge that we defeat this."
"The Gentleman from Champaign, Representative Johnson."
"The same arguments that we made before are obviously 140 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 applicable to this debate as well. We passed laws to toughen up our criminal justice system. We give the tools to the prosecutors in law enforcement. We've got to have the people in law enforcement, namely the sheriff, and the people in the prosecutorily branch of the government, namely the State's Attorney, who have sufficient incentives to do their best. They do that now, but I don't think we pay them at their best level. And I think this is a reasonable attempt to try to put pay for that branch of the government in line with what we expect them to do in our total criminal justice system. I think it's a good Bill. I'm going to vote 'yes'. And I would hope that others would do likewise."
"The Gentleman from Effingham, Representative Brummer."
"Yes, will the Sponsor yield?"
"He will yield for a question."
"Is there a state mandates exemption under this, or this an item that would be reimbursed by the state?"
"There's a state mandate exemption."
"So, it would not be reimbursed by the state. The local counties would have to pick up the increase."
"That's correct."
"Okay. Thank you."
"The Gentleman from Livingston, Representative Ewing."
"Would the Sponsor yield?"
"He will yield for a question."
"Bob, in this particular case, the sheriff's salary is set as a percentage of the state's attorney's? Is that..."
"No. This... This is simply adjusting the minimum. The state's attorney was adjusted 15 thousand dollars which is also under this Bill. This simply adjusts the minimum. 141 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 There are some sheriffs that are making close to the basic minimum now, so the adjustment might be two thousand dollars in '86 or it might be 10 thousand dollars in '86 depending upon the size of the county."
"Is it an eight or a ten thousand dollar adjustment in the minimum?"
"It would be depending upon what they are currently paying them. For example, if you had a minimum of 31 thousand and they're currently paying that share of say 28 thousand then there would be a minimum or an adjustment of three thousand dollar minimum."
"Right. But I meant the raise in the minimum is either eight or ten thousand, or is it more than that?"
"I believe it's adjusted about 10 thousand, I understand."
"Ten thousand total."
"Yes."
"Now, it was my understanding there was one Bill out in regard to sheriffs' salary that set it at a percentage, two-thirds of the state's attorney."
"That got beat in the Senate."
"That is not this Bill."
"Right."
"Alright. Thank you."
"There being no further discussion, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Terzich, to close."
"Well, again this is similar... this also includes the state's attorneys, and it's, I think, a fair and equitable adjustment. It did receive 58 votes in the Senate, doesn't go into effect until 1986, and it has been 14 years since this adjustment. I appreciate your support."
"The Gentleman... The question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1448?'" 142 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Representative Alexander is voting 'aye'. It is working here, Representative, and it is working on the board. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 70 voting 'aye', 42 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present', and the House does concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1448. House Bill 1563, Representative McGann. Clerk, read... Out of the record? House Bill 1658, Representative Braun. Out of the record. House Bill 2211, Representative Greiman. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2211, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act regulating transactions concerning vehicles and vehicle parts, together with Senate Amendments #2, 3, 4, 5 and 6."
"Representative Greiman."
"Thank you, Speaker. I would move that the House concur with the Senate Amendments to House Bill 2211. This was the Bill that reformed the chop shops... reformed the law enforcement of chop shops. With the Amendments... Some of the Amendments in the... in the Senate related specifically to the Bill. Some were to accommodate and make clear the kind of records that were to be kept by scrap processors. There was a concern that the records to be required by scrap processors were too... unwieldy and too complex, and so there was a... there was a definitional change in order to help the processors. There were also changes with respect to certain technical problems that were encountered in terms of definition of lost and abandoned cars and how to respon... how to... the kind of requirements that you needed for an auction where there was a total... a total of a car, because there had been found that often the auctions and the insurance sales where there was total out of a car 143 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 were the main sources of cars that were allowed what they called switching and retagging. There were... There are two Amendments that are not particularly germane to the Bill but were added on. And while I... I don't have any strong feelings about them except that they don't... I don't think they affect the original Bill, and the original Bill is significant enough since it will make very startling changes in how we go after chop shops. One authorizes the Secretary of State to issue a special Armed Forces Reserve plate. We do that now for National Guard. This would just be Reserve. The other one changes... changes the presumption on a rental car when the title... as to title when the... when the car has been stolen from a rental agency. That's what the Amendments are about. I would move for concurrence of Amendment... of these Amendments to Senate... House Bill 2211."
"Ladies and Gentlemen, Channel 5 has asked permission to do some videotaping from the press box. Do the gentlemen have leave? The gentlemen have leave. Ladies and Gentlemen, Representative Greiman has asked that the House concur in Senate Amendments 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 to House Bill 2211. And on that question, the Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."
"Yes, Madam Speaker, will the Sponsor yield for a question?"
"The Gentleman will yield for a question."
"Representative, Senate Amendment #5, as I have just very briefly perused it, and I wonder if you would confirm or correct my quick reading. There has to be a notification sent to somebody who improperly possesses a vehicle..."
"That's not part of the chop shop Bill, but that's correct. That's my understanding. Yes."
"And if that person doesn't give up the vehicle within 144 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 three days of the mailing of the notification, then they are committing the crime of theft."
"Apparently it's decreased from seven to three."
"Now, my only concern is that that's a mailing date notification, and quite frequently, I get letters from constituents 15, 16, 18 days after they've been mailed, after they're postmarked. And it just seems to me that that particular provision is extraordinarily onerous. What do you think about that?"
"I probably wouldn't have put the... put it on, but the Senate did, and they... I notice its the... one of my Senate Sponsors was the Sponsor of it. So that is why I am here, and I..."
"Don't you think we really ought to concur in the other Amendments and nonconcur in this one and see if they won't recede in this one?"
"Well, I've made a Motion to concur in it. I said initially that it wasn't quite my cup of tea, but I... I think it's not so onerous. We already have the... the thing in the law that provides for seven days. This reduces it, and that's what it does."
"Well, how often do you get your mail within three days of when it was postmarked?"
"Nobody ever writes me."
"I beg... Ladies and Gentlemen, to the Bill. I think the Gentleman has worked long and hard on this Bill. The underlying Bill I have no problem with, and all of the other Amendments appear to me to be in order. But this particular Amendment that the Senate put on would have a person committing the crime of theft... a felony if they didn't receive their mail within three days under certain circumstances. And I think given the record of performance by the United States Postal Service that that's just too 145 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 much to... too much of a penalty to put on the people of the State of Illinois, and I... so I would urge a 'no' vote on the... on the Motion. As a matter of fact what I would do, Madam Speaker, is move to divide the question so that we can vote on each of these Amendments separately."
"And which Amendment do you want divided, Representative Vinson?"
"I would like the vote on Amendment 5 taken separately."
"That Motion is in order. On the question for Senate Amendments 2, 3, 4 and 6, the Gentleman from Effingham, Representative Brummer."
"Yes, will the Sponsor yield?"
"He will yield for a question."
"With regard to the major Bill, the major portion of the Bill, as you sent it over to the Senate, are the auto rebuilders, recyclers, I'm not sure exactly their association name, are they in support of this legislation now as amended?"
"Well, I'm... I'm not sure. I've sort of lost track of who is and who isn't. The last Amendment, Amendment 6, provided for the scrap processors, and they are clearly on board as is the Secretary of State, the Department of Law Enforcement, the state's attorneys, the State's Attorney of Cook County and everybody else. So, I don't know. I'm not sure whether they are or not. I don't know that..."
"Does this..."
"...process... significant process in the Senate as well as the House."
"Does this legislation still provide for marked titles? I think the Secretary of State's Office is currently stamping them rebuilt in large letters on the title. Does this alter that in any manner?"
"Representative Greiman." 146 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Yes, just one moment, Madam Speaker."
"Representative Brummer."
"Currently the Secretary of State stamps in large letters on... on titles... Rebuilt, I think is the language that is stamped on there. There's been a considerable amount of concern with regard to the auto recyclers regarding that because that results in a substantially lower sale price. There's an auto recycler who the Sponsor I know has talked to from my district regarding that issue. And I'm... I'm wondering if that has been changed in any manner in the legislation."
"Representative Greiman."
"I don't think that has been changed. I think that they've talked about the possibility of changing that. I don't think they have. There were some proposals that were offered back and forth. I think that remains. But that's the current law. That's not... That's not changing anything in the law. That's the current law."
"Proceed, Representative Brummer."
"Yes, very briefly to the Bill. When this Bill was before us on Third Reading, originally Representative Greiman indicated that everybody was in favor of this except organized crime. I would respectfully disagree with that statement. But with a statement like that I suspect there's going to be concurrence by a substantial margin. I do feel that this addresses the auto rebuilding industry in a manner that's unfair. It seems to me that they came forward with several proposals to address the chop shop problem without unduly crippling their industry, and I would respectfully disagree with the Motion to concur regarding this Bill."
"There being no further discussion, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Greiman, to close." 147 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"With respect to some of the issues that Representative Brummer has raised, I see that in Amendment 2... the initial Amendment 2 which we added on provides for separate definitions for rebuilders and for repairers. A repairer can receive a clean title, and a rebuilder would receive a salvage title. But that doesn't change the law. That's what the law... I mean that changes it, but they don't get a clean so-called title at this point. So we're not changing that law in any event. Those Amendments that have been adopted by the... by the Senate that we are considering now strengthen the Bill, make it a... still have all of the other people who were for this Bill who are in law enforcement for the Bill, and I respectfully... understand that people certainly can oppose the Bill and that doesn't demean their character. I have, Lord knows, opposed enough Bills on this floor. But this is a good Bill. It is a Bill that will seriously move toward... toward attacking chop shops, and I would ask that we concur in those Amendments that are part of this Motion."
"The... The question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendments 2, 3, 4 and 6 to House Bill 2211. All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 104 voting 'aye', 4 voting 'no' and 5 voting 'present', and the House does concur in Senate Amendments 2, 3, 4 and 6 to House Bill 2211. Representative Greiman on Senate Amendment #5."
"I think... Speaker, I think that I will adopt what Representative Vinson has suggested. I think that... I think that is right. I think he is correct. I think that is a little onerous and questionable, and so I will move to nonconcur." 148 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"The Gentleman moves to nonconcur in Senate Amendment #5 to House Bill 2211. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, all those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the House does nonconcur in Senate Amendment #5 to House Bill 2211. House Bill 2296. Representative Hallock? Out of the record. House Bill 2325, Representative Ronan. Representative Ronan. Out of the record. House Bill 23... Representative Ronan. Clerk, read the Bill. That was House Bill 22... 2325. Excuse me."
"House Bill 2325, a Bill for an Act creating the Illinois Infrastructure Bank Act, together with Senate Amendments #1 and 2."
"Representative Ronan."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. I move to concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2325. Basically what they do is that they incorporate divisions of House Bill 3063, an Act to create the Minority and Female Business Enterprise Act, which is Amendment #1. Amendment #2 is a further clarification which establishes a Minority and Female Business Enterprise Act set aside program, and I move to concur."
"The Gentleman has moved to concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2325. On that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2325. All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 84 voting 'aye', 21 voting 'no' and 3 voting 'present, and the House does concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House..." 149 STATE OF ILLINOIS 93RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 to House Bill 2325. House Bill 2334, Representative Madigan. Out of the record. House Bill 2355, Representative Flinn. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2355, a Bill for an Act to amend the Radiation Protection Act, together with Senate Amendments #1 and 2."
"Representative Flinn."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I move to concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2355. Senate Amendment #1 restores the January 1, '84 accreditation deadline and permits unconditional accreditation for persons employed in the field of not less than 24 months or 48 months preceding January '84. It very simply settles the argument we had... JCAR had with the Department of Nuclear Safety, and this was an agreed to Amendment in the Senate. Senate Amendment #2, generally speaking, excludes the podiatry... licensed podiatrists and administrators of radiation for human beings that... for diagnostic purposes, where such a podiatrist attests to the nurses' or technicians' or other systems' competence... I would move for the adoption of these two Amendments."
"The Gentleman has moved to concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2355. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Ronan."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I have no problems with Senate Amendment #1, but I do have a significant problem with Senate Amendment #2. It's bad public policy, and I'd like to divide the question."
"The Gentleman has asked to divide the question. The Gentleman is within his rights. On the issue of concurrence, on Senate Amendment #1, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Effingham, Representative 150 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Brummer."
"Yes, will the Sponsor yield?"
"The Gentleman will yield for a question."
"Representative Flinn, several months ago, I remember receiving several letters from hospitals in my district that were very concerned about this legislation. They had some specific suggestions. Quite frankly, because of the length of time that it's been, I don't recall those suggestions. Could you indicate, is the Illinois Hospital Association in favor of Amendment #1?"
"I... I don't know particularly whether they are, but what... their main objection was grandfathering in their technicians so they may take X-rays, and this has been done in Amendment #1."
"That's with regard to people employed not less than 24 of the last 48 months?"
"Right. That's right."
"Thank you."
"The question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2355?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present'. And the House does concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2355. Representative Flinn, what is your pleasure on Senate Amendment #2?"
"Well, Madam Speaker, the Senate Sponsor agreed to this Amendment, and I cannot very well move to nonconcur, so I would move to concur in Senate Amendment #2. It does, indeed, take the podiatrists out of the Act, so to speak, by simply having the physician in charge verify that the person's qualified. I understand there's some problems 151 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 with it. The medical association has a problem, and other people, but I would still move to concur in Senate Amendment #2..."
"The Gentleman has moved to concur in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 2355. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Ronan."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I think Representative Flinn has done one of the great understatements of all time on Senate Amendment #2. It really does establish bad public policy. What it does, it opens up a Pandora's box on the delivery of the Health Care Service System in this state. The Illinois State Medical Society and a lot of other significant groups in this state have serious problems with Senate Amendment #2. I move that we nonconcur and send this to a Conference."
"Excuse me, Representative Ronan. The Motion has already been made, and that is to concur, and that is what we are discussing. The Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."
"Well, Madam Speaker, I certainly take umbrage with your denial of Representative Ronan's right to offer a substitute Motion. I think that that's always in order in the General Assembly, and I believe Roberts' Rules of Order clearly established that. Beyond that, since you're going to do that with the Chair, I rise in opposition to concurrence in Senate Amendment #2 as well. If anybody would have any doubt about voting against the Amendment just on the basis of that very bad ruling, they ought to vote against the Amendment on the merits of the Amendment. It is an Amendment which would, in essence, grandfather people who apply radiation to other people. And if there shouldn't be some legitimate certification process for that, I can't imagine what there should be certification 152 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 for. I would urge a 'no' vote on the Motion to concur on this Amendment."
"There being no further discussion, the Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative Flinn, to close."
"I'd just ask for an 'aye' vote."
"The question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 2355?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 3 voting 'aye', 110 voting 'no', and 2 voting 'present'. And the Motion to concur fails. Representative Flinn?"
"Madam Speaker, could I have permission to carry a gun, please? Madam Speaker, I would now move to nonconcur on Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 2355."
"The Gentleman... The Gentleman moves to nonconcur on Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 2355. All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the House does nonconcur in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 2355. House Bill 2359, Representative Nelson. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2359, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning urban forestry programs, together with Senate Amendment #1."
"Representative Nelson."
"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I move that the House do concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2359. The original Bill was the Urban Forestry Assistance Act. There is no funding in the Bill. This is substantive legislation. It does provide a mechanism for eventually, when we have the funding in place, giving to municipalities that have a forestry 153 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 program matching grants up to 50% but not exceeding 10 thousand dollars to a municipality that develops a planned forestry program. Senate Amendment #1 does two things. It corrected an oversight in last year's Act and adds the word 'or' between 'timber buyer or person who uses timber produced on his own land'. And secondly, the Amendment adds that a timber buyer shall retain the books, accounts, records and papers used in the conduct of his business for a period of three years. That is presumably to ensure that the tax is correctly collected by the Department of Revenue, and I would move to concur."
"The Lady moves to concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2359. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2359?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those... Representative Cullerton."
"Yes, I just wondered if the Sponsor might yield."
"She will yield for a question, yes."
"I really have a question more about the original House Bill, and I'm not sure whether this was addressed. Did this have a fiscal impact? The Amendment #1 on the House Bill, did it have a fiscal impact?"
"In its original form, it had a fiscal impact but Amendment #2 removed that. It removed Section 7, Representative Cullerton."
"Well, Amendment #2 provided that the grants under this Act would come from the General Revenue Fund rather than the Illinois Forestry Development Fund."
"That's correct. We would have to, of course, make a specific appropriation for that purpose, and..."
"How much money is coming from the Illinois Forestry Development Fund?" 154 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"No money is coming from the Illinois Forestry Development Fund."
"None. So this would just... This would say that if we decided to fund it, it should come from the General Revenue Funds."
"That's correct."
"Okay. Fine. Thank you."
"The question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2359?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'aye', 5 voting 'no' and none voting 'present', and the House does concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2359. With leave of the Assembly, we will go back to House Bill 2334, Representative Cullerton. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2334, a Bill for an Act in relation to the mental health programs and services, together with Senate Amendment #1."
"Representative Cullerton."
"Yes, I move to concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2334. The Bill deals with the community mental health clinics in Chicago that apply for grants in aid from the Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities. And it's ensured that there would be a local community mental health board representative of the area to be... to be served. What the Amendment does is to clarify that the... First of all, it was recommended by the Illinois Association for Retarded Citizens. The Amendment ensures that applications submitted by private agencies operating within the city limits would not be subject to review. It's only the... The board would only review grant applications by local public agencies. So it's a 155 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 good Amendment, and I would ask for concurrence in it."
"The Gentleman has moved to concur in Senate Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 2334. And on that question, the Lady from Cook, Representative Alexander."
"Thank you, Madam Chairman (sic - Speaker). Will the Sponsor yield for a question?"
"He will yield for a question."
"John, to what extent is the city's allocation grant-in-aid affected by this Amendment?"
"I don't think that it's affected at all. I think what the Bill did was to set up a Board that would review requests for grants in... in-aid. So it doesn't in any way affect the funding directly."
"This definitely would not affect the funding of the city's position at this time."
"Okay. Let me... Let me just explain one more time what it does. Requires a community mental health clinic that apply for grants-in aid from the Department of Mental Health to obtain review and comment on such applications by a local community mental health board. And the Bill sets up who shall be included on that mental health board. Okay?"
"Could you..."
"So that a local community mental health makes application for grants-in-aid. This sets up a board which reviews those grants-in-aid. The Amendment only makes it clear that it refers to grant applications by public agencies rather than private agencies."
"Then the... Are you saying that the City would have the right to... the communities themselves would appoint their own board or council to review these grants?"
"Well, no. It sets up one community mental health board that's representative... Oh, I'm sorry. You're 156 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 right. Double-check and see how many boards there are. I think it's... let me just double-check. Yes, I'm sorry. It is city wide. It's a city-wide board."
"It would be a city-wide board. Who would the... be vested in to make the appointments to this board?"
"Mayor."
"The mayor would have that power? Alright. Thank you."
"So I move for concurrence in Senate Amendment #1."
"The Gentleman has moved to concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2334. The question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #1?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 108 voting 'aye', 6 voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. And the House does concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2334. House Bill 2381, Representative Hannig. Out of the record. House Bill 2388, Representative Ewing - Hastert - Woodyard. Out of the record. House Bill 2395, Representative Steczo. Representative Steczo. Out of the record. House Bill 2475, Representative Cullerton. Clerk, read the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is a State Mandates Act Bill."
"House Bill 2475, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relation to coroners, together with Senate Amendment #1."
"Representative Cullerton."
"I'd like to take it out of the record, please."
"Out of the record. House Bill 2479, Representative Mautino. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2479, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act, together with Senate Amendments #1, 2, 3 and 5." 157 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Representative Mautino."
"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. I move to concur with the Senate action on House Bill 2479. The Senate Amendments that were added to the legislation was to allow for the manufacture of a candy with an alcohol base in the Kankakee area to protect the environs of the 100 foot provision at the local level as it pertains to licenses within the 100 foot radius of a religious facility or church. And it included the Amendment by Representative (sic - Newhouse) allowing nonresident liquor dealers to warehouse their goods in Illinois and copartnerships whereby the license is authorized. The copartnership is eligible unless any other member would be ineligible for some other reason than residency, and I move for the concurrence in the Senate Amendments to House Bill 2479."
"The Gentleman has moved for the concurrence on Senate Amendments #1, 2, 3 and 5 to House Bill 2479. And on that question, the Lady from Cook, Representative Pullen."
"I'd like to ask a question, please."
"The Gentleman will yield for a question."
"In Amendment #1 there is a change in the definition of adulterated food in... on page three lines eight and nine, to change the definition of adulterated food as respects confectionary if it is containing less than 5% rather than one-half of one percent alcohol derived solely from the use of flavoring extracts. Could you tell me, please, what kind of candy requires this change in the law to go from a half a percent to 5% alcohol?"
"Yes, Representative. Basically what happens is it's very similar to cooking when you cook with sherry. You may put 5% sherry in the mixture which you're cooking, but it cooks down to less than one-tenth of one percent. That's 158 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 in the manufacture of the candy as I understand that particular provision. The original implementation is at 5%. The end product is like one-half of one percent, because it boils away the alcohol in the process of making the candy."
"But it doesn't say if it has had added to it 5%. It says containing 5%."
"That is only because the existing law says one half of one percent is what's authorized by statute. In order to get this down to one half of one percent, you must input 5% because it cooks away. Alcohol cooks away they tell me."
"Excuse me, Sir. It doesn't say if you input 5%. It says if it contains 5%. So that's the cooked down version, is it not? The way the Bill is actually worded."
"No, I... I believe that as presented to me in the Senate - it was a Senate Amendment - by the manufacturer of that candy in Kankakee County, that was the language that is necessary for that business to continue to operate, as I was informed by the manufacturer. I don't know much about making candy with booze, but..."
"Could you please tell me what kind of candy they're making in Kankakee County?"
"It's that... Have you ever had a cherry cordial candy, a grape cordial candy? That's what it is. It's a piece of chocolate with a filling in it. Okay? With a cherry and a grape, but it's blended with an alcohol base. There's also a rum, as I understand it, a rum candy. It's about... It's about 15 to 18 dollars a pound, this candy."
"So they're making alcoholic cherries in Kankakee County, huh?"
"Well, yes, but you've got to understand something. We have that same product in candy stores in Illinois. It's allowed to be exported in here because they make them in 159 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Belgium. Marshall Fields has those candies. They're all made for... in other states and in other countries. This would allow them to be made in Illinois, no different than anything else."
"How many of these cherry candies would one have to eat before one could be picked up by Secretary of State Edgar?"
"There's one ounce of alcohol in ten pounds of candy. You'd probably have to eat 40 to 50 pounds of that candy to get maybe 5% alcohol."
"Thank you. I think that puts it in perspective."
"The Gentleman from Kankakee, Representative Pangle."
"To answer the Representative's question, you have to eat at least 60 pounds of that candy, and it runs between 18 and 22 dollars a pound. And also, as Representative Mautino said, we export that candy into the State of... Illinois now, and if we can produce it in Manteno, we will provide at least 75 jobs for people in Kankakee County."
"There being no further discussion... Excuse me. The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Brookins."
"Maybe the Representative from Kankakee will bring a couple of pounds of that candy so that we can see... judge it."
"There being no further discussion, Representative Mautino to close."
"I just ask to move to concur with the Senate Amendments 1, 2, 3 and 5 on House Bill 2479."
"The question is, 'Shall the House concur with Senate Amendments #1, 2, 3 and 5 to House Bill 2479?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all vote who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 96 voting 'aye', 17 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present', and the House 160 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 does concur in Senate Amendments #1, 2, 3 and 5 to House Bill 2479. House Bill 2509, Representative Madigan - Levin. Representative Levin. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2509, a Bill for Act in relation to senior citizens and certain boards and Commissions, together with Senate Amendments #1 and 2."
"Representative Levin."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would move that the House do concur to Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 2509. House Bill 2509 is the Bill that puts senior citizen..."
"Excuse me, Representative. Representative Cullerton, for what reason do you rise?"
"Representative Levin, could you take this out of the record for just one moment, please? Come right back to it."
"Out of the record. House Bill 2513, Representative Karpiel. Clerk, read the Bill. Oh, out of the record. House Bill 2516, Representative Nelson. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2516, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code, together with Senate Amendment #1."
"Representative Nelson."
"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I move that the House do concur with Senate Amendment 1 to House Bill 2516. Senate Amendment #1 addresses a concern that was raised when it got over there that perhaps only a portion of a fiscal year might be used for the basis of determining fair market value. This has to do with a House Amendment that was put onto this Bill which allows that the fair market value of a water system can be determined by the capitalization of income method 161 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 when a condemnation proceedings is in process. The Senate Amendment only adds the words, 'for the preceding fiscal year', which is perfectly reasonable. And Representative Cullerton had raised a question about this the last time we were on the Order of Concurrence, but we have cleared that up with staff. Furthermore, the underlying Bill was another 'tree' Bill which authorized municipalities to establish joint long-term programs with other municipalities and enter into long-term contracts in order to get a better deal. And I'd be glad to answer any questions. I move to concur."
"The Lady moves to concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2516. And on that question, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Peoria, Representative Tuerk."
"Would the Sponsor yield for a question?"
"She will yield for a question."
"As I recall, in 1983, there was some Bill floating around that had the overtones of this particular... the Amendments that have been put on about using a part of the earnings as a basis for establishing the worth of a company and so forth. Is that the same concept as was prevalent a year ago?"
"Yes, you are correct. The Sponsor of the Amendment is Representative Hastert, and I'd be glad to yield to him if you have further questions on it. But he advises me, Representative Tuerk, that this is an agreed Amendment."
"Well, agreed by whom?"
"I... The water companies."
"All water companies?"
"The Association."
"I see."
"And it is permissive." 162 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"What do you mean it's permissive?"
"The language... Well, I mean the language of the Amendment says the fair cash market value acquired under this division and so on, and so on, may be determined in accordance with the following valuation principles, may be determined."
"I see. Well, I had forgotten all the particulars about the Bill because it's been over a year ago. But as I remember then, there were some serious questions about it. I opposed the Bill then, and I think I'll continue to oppose it now based on some of the knowledge that I had a year ago. I'm not completely up to date as to what has transpired during that interim period."
"The Gentleman from McHenry, Representative Klemm."
"Will the Sponsor yield for a question?"
"She will yield for a question."
"I... I guess the same questions that Representative Tuerk is asking I would have to ask too. What prohibits a water company now from working out any agreement with a municipality for whatever value they wish to determine without having a mandate another way which they could use voluntarily?"
"I don't know the answer to that, Representative Klemm. Let me yield to Representative Hastert, because it was his Amendment, if I may."
"Fine."
"Representative Hastert to answer the question."
"It needed statutory authorization to do it."
"To do... To do what? To just sit down and determine how much a company is worth? They have to... They have to spell out how they arrived at those figures?"
"Yes." 163 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"Unbelievable. Alright. Thank you."
"The question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2516?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 105 voting 'aye', 5 voting 'no' and 4 voting 'present', and the House does concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2516. With leave of the Assembly, I'd like to go back to a Bill that we missed, House Bill 2040, page six on your Calendar, Representative Younge. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2040 amends the Environmental Protection Act, concurring with Senate Amendments #1 and 2."
"Representative Younge."
"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker and Members of the Assembly. I move to concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2. Senate Amendments #1 and 2 delete the language that came over from the House. This Bill amends the Environmental Protection Act. The language that came from the House made it impossible to site a regional pollution control facility in a 100 year flood plain. The Senate in Amendment 1 changed that to make the law that after the local siting approval has been approved by the local county or municipality, if the applicant does not apply for a development permit to the EPA within two years, that approval will lapse. Amendment #2 states that, and was put in by the... by the Pollution Control Board, that the Department of Energy and Natural Resources would provide environmental research support for the Pollution Control Board. And I concur in both Amendments."
"The Lady moves to concur in Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 2040. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question 164 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2040?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 84 voting 'aye', 28 voting 'no' and 3 voting 'present', and the House does concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2040. With leave of the Assembly, I would now like to go to House Bill 2475, Representative Cullerton, on page seven on your Calendar. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. This is a State Mandates Act Bill."
"House Bill 2475 amends an Act to revise the law in relationship to coroners, concurring in Senate Amendment #1."
"Representative Cullerton."
"Yes, thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Perhaps the first thing I should do is to point out that the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs has issued a State Mandates Act fiscal note indicating that this Bill does not come under the State Mandates Act because it does not require the expenditure of any additional funds whatsoever. The Senate Amendment is not controversial. It prohibits a coroner from performing an autopsy. I would be happy to answer any questions, and I would move for the concurrence of Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2475."
"The Gentleman has moved to concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2475. And on that question, the Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."
"Yes, Madam Speaker, would the Sponsor yield for a question?"
"The Gentleman will yield for a question."
"Yes, Representative, would you explain to us just what 165 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 coroners are going to do in this world if they're prohibited from performing autopsies?"
"Yes, I would ask Representative Davis if he could answer that question. I would yield to Representative Davis who will tell you what the coroners... You know, in Cook County we don't have a coroner, so perhaps it's inappropriate for me to answer the question."
"I'll withdraw my question."
"Fine. Thank you."
"Representative Davis."
"Well, thank you, Madam Speaker. I'll rise in support of the Amendment simply because the Coroners' Association has talked to my about that. There's an Attorney General's opinion that it's bad public policy and that coroners ought not to do their own autopsies with their own hands on for obvious reasons. There are... There are about 96 coroners in the state, only two of whom are physicians and currently do not do their own autopsies, but have other physicians or forensic pathologists do them. The Attorney General's... opinion states that it is indeed bad policy because if indeed a coroner was inclined if a guy walks in with bullet holes in him and he's inclined to do natural causes it thwarts the law enforcement community for whatever reason. And so they suggested that this change would be... would be good for the Attorney General's opinion to be put into law. It's really as simple as that, Sam."
"The Lady from Cook, Representative Pullen."
"I'd like to ask the Sponsor a couple of questions, please."
"The Gentleman will yield for a question."
"Is the underlying Bill still in it, or does the Senate Amendment remove the underlying..."
"Yes, and I will explain the underlying Bill. It 166 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 provides that a juror shall be paid up to ten dollars per inquest but no more than 40 dollars per day for his services. And again, it does not affect Cook County. It changes the current law from a strict per diem amount of ten dollars per day to one based on the number of inquests served with the per diem ceiling of up to ten dollars per inquest and 40 maximum per day. So it doesn't..."
"You said for a juror. You mean for a coroner's juror?"
"Only a coroner's inquiry."
"Thank you."
"Madam Speaker, if I could close on the..."
"Please do."
"Right. As... Perhaps I can also clarify Senate Amendment even further by indicating to Representative Vinson that the point is that the actual coroner himself is the one who would be precluded under the Amendment from performing the autopsy of... Certainly his office still would perform the autopsy. And it's basically a clean hands for coroner Amendment, so they don't have to do these autopsies and have a question as to whether or not they, who are in charge of the actual performance of their... their fine office, make sure that there's no collusion. And, therefore, I would think it's a very good Amendment that the Senate has put on the Bill, and I would move to concur with the Amendment."
"The question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2476 (sic - 2475)?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. House Bill 2475. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'aye', 1 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present', and the House does concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2475. House Bill 2560, Representative Bowman. 167 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Representative Bowman. Clerk, read the Bill. Excuse me. Representative Van Duyne, for what reason do you rise?"
"What happened to 2534 and 2542?"
"Would you come to the podium, please? Representative Bowman on House Bill 2560."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker..."
"House... House Bill 2560, a Bill for an Act to amend the Senior Citizens and Disabled Persons Property Tax Relief Act, concurring in Senate Amendments 1 and 2."
"Representative Bowman."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I move that the House do concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2560. The underlying Bill establishes a Pharmaceutical Assistance Program for senior citizens and disabled persons. We've passed this program... similar program once before, and this particular Bill has passed the House with a vote of 96 to 13. The... When it got over to the Senate, there was a... a technical Amendment put on that solved... resolved some remaining problems with the pharmacists. For example, it requires a drug formulary indicating the specific products to be covered. Requires a survey of dispensing fees and costs be done on an annual basis. Limits dosages to 34 days only except for reasons of medical utilization control as indicated by rule. Clarifies the generic drug pricing policy will apply if that type of product is available, and makes clarifications in terminology. As a further attempt to try to respond to people concerned about the cost of the program, Senate Amendment 2 limits the program to cardiovascular preparations. And I believe that with a new program of this sort, it is appropriate to begin with a small targeted population and build. And I think that this is a wise approach. So I now move that we concur in 168 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 2560."
"The Gentleman has moved to concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2560. And on that question, the Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."
"Yes, Madam Speaker, I rise in opposition to the Gentleman's Motion for concurrences on House Bill 2560. The Bill has been very substantially changed by the Senate Amendments. The fees for pharmacies now are somehow placed on a floating basis. They can increase. The prescription drugs permitted are decreased so that, for instance, insulin is no longer permissible under this Bill. And it would certainly seem to me that you have a very fundamental equal protection problem if you're going to take care of some drugs for some people but not insulin for diabetics. I would strongly urge that the Assembly remember what the cost of this kind of program is and that it's been made worse in the Senate, probably by, in the one hand, by some special interest and on the other hand, by somebody who doesn't like diabetics. And I think that that's wrong, and we all ought to be voting against this Motion."
"There being no further discussion, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Bowman, to close."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'm really very surprised at the Gentleman from DeWitt. It seems to me that this is one of the few times I can remember that he has gotten to his feet and argued against a cost control measure. The Amendment that was adopted in the Senate was done in a good faith effort to respond to concerns about the cost of the program. I believe that what we have done here is to target the program to those senior citizens who have debilitating heart conditions. Now what we're talking about here is 169 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 heart disease, Ladies and Gentlemen, people who have heart attacks, who have hypertension and who are in danger of having heart attacks. These... This... These people are... lives are very much threatened. Their lives are hanging in the balance. We need to put this program on the books so that we can help protect our senior citizens who are being threatened by heart disease. And I think the Gentleman as being very callous in his remarks, and I urge us just to disregard him and go ahead and vote for this Motion."
"The question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2560?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 100 voting 'aye', 11 voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present', and the House does concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2560. House Bill 2566, Representative Wojcik. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2566 amends the Illinois Plumbing License Law, concurring in Senate Amendment #1."
"Representative Wojcik."
"Yes, Mr. (sic - Madam) Speaker and Members of the House, I move to concur with Senate Bill... Amendment #1. This is the Amendment that I told you would be placed on the Bill and has been agreed to by all parties. What the Amendment states is that it provides that persons who are not licensed plumbers, who customarily perform certain installation, repair or maintenance work on service lines and water meters prior to the effective date of this Act, may continue to perform such work, and that licensed plumbers who customarily performed any such work prior to the effective date of this Act must continue to perform such work. Many, many hours have been put into this Bill, 170 STATE OF ILLINOIS 93RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 and many meetings were made and had, and the Bill finally is in form for all concerned. All municipalities now have a status quo as it was before. I move..."
"The Lady... The Lady moves to concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2566. And on that question, the Gentleman from Lake, Representative Matijevich."
"Well, I just want to compliment the Sponsor. I know she has gone through many hours on this particular Bill. I know what you went through. Some of us went through that last year, and what you are doing by this Amendment is really following through with the legislative intent that we try to put on the floor of the House, but now we are doing it statutorily. And I would urge unanimous approval of this Amendment."
"The Gentleman from Peoria, Representative Tuerk."
"Would the Sponsor yield for a question?"
"The Lady will yield for a question."
"I only have one clarifying question. You mention the status quo would apply. This would also apply to the privately owned water companies who operate within a municipality. Is that correct?"
"Yes, that is correct."
"The status quo would apply?"
"Status quo."
"Thank you."
"The Lady from Cook, Representative Alexander."
"Thank you. Maybe my question has been answered, but would the Sponsor yield?"
"The Lady will yield for a question."
"Does the Senate Amendment means that unless I was a licensed plumber, I would not be entitled to work even though I may have had the experience... expertise as an 171 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 unlicensed plumber?"
"No. If you are a licensed plumber, you would be welcomed on the job. As it stands now, if you are on the job as an unlicensed plumber, it is okay also."
"Alright. Thank you."
"The question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2566?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'aye', none voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. The House, therefore, does concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2566. House Bill 2574, Representative Brummer. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2574 amends the School Construction Bond Act, concurring in Senate Amendments #1 and 2."
"Representative Brummer."
"House Bill 2574, as it left this chamber, amended the School Construction Bond Act, reduced the debt service by six million dollars and authorized the issuance of six million dollars of bonds for grants to school districts for rehabilitation of school buildings condemned by regional superintendents of schools prior to January 1, 1984. It passed the House here with 108 votes. The Senate added two Amendments. The second Amendment increased that amount by three million dollars. Was placed on by Senator Laura Kent-Donahue to address a problem at Beardstown, Illinois, in Representative Mays' district. Senate Amendment #1, placed on by Senator Demuzio at the request of the Illinois Farm Development Authority Act, lowered the Farm Development Authority Act's bond set aside for the agri business loans without decreasing the overall bonding authorization of the Illinois Farm Development Authority 172 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Act thereby making additional funds available for the first farmer program, or the New Farmer Program. The reason for the reduction in the... set aside for the agri business loans and... was because there has not been a large number of applications for that Program, and they are short of funds with regard to the New Farmer Program. It's a... an Amendment at the request of the... of that Agency, that Farm Development Authority, and I would move to concur in both Senate Amendments #1 and 2."
"The Gentleman has moved to concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2574. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Frequently when candidates run for statewide office, they make as their theme, 'Bringing the state together.' There is no upstate. There is no downstate. It's all one big happy family. I think sometimes when we do favors for each other like passing this particular Bill that helps Edwards County and then in a Senate Amendment that helps Beardstown, it's nice to reflect that even though the Representatives from Chicago frequently don't have requests like this for bridges and rehabilitating school districts and buildings, and it's nice to reflect on how well we work together and how well we cooperate with each other. And I think it's appropriate when we vote for this Bill that we remind our friends from throughout the state that we are in favor of their projects which help them in their own community."
"Thank you."
"The question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2574?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting 173 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 96 voting 'aye', 19 voting 'no' and none voting 'present', and the House does concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2574. House Bill 2598, Representative Capparelli. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2598 amends the Illinois Housing Development Act, concurring in Senate Amendments #1, 2, 3 and 4."
"Representative Capparelli."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I do concur with the four Amendments from the Senate. Amendment #1 makes it clear that IHDA will always make available the number of units for low and moderate income as required by federal law. Amendment 2 makes it clear that the energy efficiency techniques and building materials should be available to the low and moderate income. Amendment #3 requires the Authority adopt these rules regarding energy standards no later than January 1st, 1986. And Amendment 4 provides that IHDA investments and certain investment instruments shall be for the sole purpose of hedging to reduce the financial risks associated with the fluctuations of the rate. I do concur with House (sic - Senate) Amendments 1, 2, 3 and 4."
"The Gentleman moves to concur in Senate Amendments #1, 2, 3 and 4 on House Bill 2598. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendments #1, 2, 3 and 4 to House Bill 2598?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'aye', none voting 'no' and 3 voting 'present', and the 174 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 House does concur in Senate Amendments #1, 2, 3 and 4 to House Bill 2598. House Bill 2657, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2657 amends the Capital Development Bond Act, concurring in Senate Amendment #1."
"Representative Barnes."
"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I move not to concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2657."
"The Lady moves to nonconcur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2657. And on that question, is there any discussion? The being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the House nonconcur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2657?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Senate non... the House, rather, nonconcurs in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2657. House Bill 2666, Representative Mautino. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2666 amends an Act in relationship to licensing and regulating certain games of chance, concurring in Senate Amendments #1 and 2."
"Representative Mautino."
"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. I move to concur with Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 2666. In its original form, this authorized the Nonprofit Voluntary Business Organizations to hold raffle and chances and be licensed under that provision. Amendment #1 by Senator Bloom absolves the... that the lessor of the premises used to conduct the raffle from criminal liability in the event the organization conducting the raffle is unlicensed. And Amendment #2 is by Senator Bloom and Watson that adds to the Bill a minor revision to the revenue distribution formula in the personal property tax replacement so that 175 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 townships which receive replacement tax revenues in proportion to amounts formerly levied under the abolished personal property tax for the care and maintenance of public graveyards must remit these proportionate amounts to the graveyards for use... these revenues... for the use... for the graveyard purposes. And that's basically what it does, and I move for the concurrence of Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 2666."
"The Gentleman moves to concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2666. On that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall this House concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2666?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'aye', 2 voting 'no' and none voting 'present', and this House does concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2666. House Bill 2684, Representative Nash. Clerk, read the Bill. This is a State Mandates Act Bill."
"House Bill 2684 amends the Illinois Public Aid Code, concurring in Senate Amendment #1."
"Representative Nash."
"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I move to concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2684. Senate Amendment #1 was an Amendment that was put on this Bill by the Department of Public Aid. It tightens up the language."
"The Gentleman moves to concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2684. And on that question, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Winnebago, Representative Mulcahey."
"Question of the Sponsor, Madam Speaker. 176 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 Representative Nash, where is the language tightened?"
"What it did, the income district... or it applies to the individual and not to the amount the family gets. As the Bill left the House, the language was a little loose, so Public Aid put an Amendment on which tightened it up and it allows an individual rather than the amount the family receives in public aid."
"The Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."
"Yes, will the Sponsor yield for a question, Madam Speaker?"
"The Gentleman will yield for a question."
"Representative, the... as I understand the import... You're moving to concur. Is that correct? And that would be final action on this Bill. Is that correct? And as I understand the import of the Bill, we're going to disregard certain income, general assistance recipients, for determining whether they're eligible for the grant. Is that correct?"
"In its present form... As the Bill left the House, what it does, it permits a welfare recipient to earn the difference between 144 and 286, which is 142 dollars, for a three month period only within a one year. In other words, a welfare recipient goes out and gets a job that earns 142 dollars..."
"Well, this says that if they... if they go out and get a job and get some income, this encourages them to do that?"
"Let me finish."
"That's what it's all about?"
"Let me finish. Let me finish."
"It's a workfare Bill?"
"Let me finish, Sam."
"Okay." 177 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"If they go out and they get a job and then they get laid off, they won't be knocked off. What the Amendment does, it tightens that up to... to reflect only an individual and not a family. It was the Public Aid Department's Amendment."
"What I'm not sure of... Does this let them... Does this disregard the sum amount of income that they earn on the job or does this disregard..."
"The sum amount of income they earn on the job. Right now Public Aid permits welfare recipients to go out and earn an additional 65 dollars a month."
"So this is basically a workfare concept."
"Yes."
"I'm not sure why I should be against this. I think I'm for this."
"Representative... Representative Nash is recognized to close."
"I ask for a favorable Roll Call."
"The question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2684?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 85 voting 'aye', 28 voting 'no' and none voting 'present', and the House does concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2684. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2692, Representative Olson. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2692 is an Act concerning the Department of Conservation, concurring in Senate Amendments 1, 2 and 3."
"Representative Olson."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the 178 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 House. I move to concur in Senate Amendments 1, 2 and 3 to House Bill 2692. This is a conveyance vehicle that we moved out of here on a 101 to 1 vote relative to moving some property to the Church of God in Oregon. We have set the fair market value at 3400 dollars, and Senate Amendment #1 put in place in the Executive Committee affirmed that. Senate Amendment #2 deals with the conveyance by quick claim deed of some property to the Bristel-Kendall Cemetery in the amount of one dollar. It actually was an old borrow pit on which the Cemetery Association is prepared to put in some fill and utilize it. Amendment #3, the Department of Conservation is authorized to lease in whole or in part to the City of Kankakee or its successors or assigns for a period not to exceed 60 years the Kankakee River Dam at Kankakee, Illinois, and the necessary state-owned land, surplus waters in their purposes for hydro-powered developed. Representative Fangle was prepared to offer this Amendment if necessary. I move for the adoption of the concurrence Motion on House Bill 2692."
"The Gentleman moves to concur in Senate Amendments #1, 2 and 3 to House Bill 2692. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."
"Yes, would the Sponsor yield?"
"Yes."
"The Sponsor will yield for a question."
"Representative, if you could speak up a little bit, I'd appreciate it."
"Yes."
"The... The House Bill authorizes the Department of Conservation to convey a parcel of land currently in its possession to the Oregon Church of God in Oregon, Illinois; and, as we passed it, it was for no less than the fair 179 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 market value of the property. Is that correct?"
"Correct."
"Then the Senate amended the Bill and deleted that Section that said the property will be sold for the fair market value and specified that it will be sold for 3400 dollars."
"The appraisals came in at an average of 2800 plus 600 dollars for moving it, or a total of 3400. They formalized the appraisals that we offered in Executive."
"And what was the date of the appraisals?"
"I don't have the exact date. Approximately the middle of April."
"Well, what do you think of the propriety of changing from... selling it for the fair market value, which seems to make sense - the way you drafted the Bill - to having a fixed amount of how much the land is actually worth as of whenever the Bill gets signed?"
"Well, it was based on the assessments which we... we gave them the same appraisals that we had over here. They decided to put a fair amount value on it."
"But what do you... if you can answer my question, isn't it... isn't the Bill better the way you drafted it to say it shall sell for fair market value?"
"The Senate, in its wisdom, sought to amend it..."
"Well, we know about the Senate's wisdom. That's why I'm asking why you're concurring with the Amendment. Alright. How about Senate Amendment #2 which, in their wisdom, they authorized the conveyance of property from the Department of Conservation to the Bristol-Kendall Cemetery Committee for cemetery purposes?"
"Yes."
"This sounds like it's in Representative... Is this a cemetery for animals or people?" 180 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"No, it's going to be for people. At the moment, it's a borrow pit, which is not worth..."
"A what?"
"A borrow, B-O-R-R-O-W, not barrow, but borrow pit."
"Is this in Representative Hastert's district?"
"It's in Representative Hastert's district."
"What is a borrow pit?"
"That's a place where they borrowed ground from and take the ground someplace else. That's a borrow pit."
"And that's not called a lake?"
"No, there's... It's not filled with water. It's just an empty hole in the ground. "
"I see. And we're going to... we're going to fill that up with bodies?"
"Eventually, as soon as we put some dirt in there... with the bodies."
"Now, what is the appraised value of that hole in the ground?"
"A dollar."
"That's the appraised value?"
"That's right. An appraisal wasn't necessary because of the conveyance method."
"The appraisal may not be required by our... by our law, but... or the Senate, but this... You can still get land in Illinois for a dollar?"
"If you saw this borrow pit, you might only pay 75 cents, Representative."
"How... A dollar a hole."
"A dollar a hole. I've lost a lot of ... for a dollar."
"How big is this hole? How big is this hole?"
"It's very large."
"How many acres?"
"It's a huge hole. Representative Hastert said it's a 150 181 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 yards by 37 yards. That would be the size of a football field."
"For a dollar."
"For a dollar. It's a very good value."
"And if they don't use it for cemetery purposes, we're giving the state the right of entry?"
"They're going to get back a hole in the ground."
"Well, does the state get it back, or do we just have the right to go into the hole?"
"Well, we've been going in the hole in this Assembly for years."
"Well, really, I just wondered... I just wondered if... if... Do we get the land back? Does the state get the ownership back, or do we just have the right to..."
"They would get it back, if they decide not to put some bodies in that hole."
"I see. Does this... Does this have anything to do with landfills?"
"Nothing to do with landfills. That would be unsanitary. We'd have to call it a hazardous waste."
"I see. Well, it sounds like another program for downstate, doesn't it?"
"It is a program for downstate, something that they're very deserving of."
"Fine. Well, it sounds like a good program to help out certain individual Representatives in the state, proving once again there is no downstate - there is no upstate. It's just all one big, happy state."
"I'm happy to have your support, Representative Cullerton. I'd appreciate your 'aye' vote."
"The Gentleman from... The Gentleman from Hill, Representative Van Duyne."
"Thank you. Would the Gentleman yield for a question 182 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 or for a request, really?"
"Yes."
"The Gentleman will yield."
"Would... I see in our synopsis, the new ones, that it authorizes the Department of Conservation to convey the land along side the Kankakee River Dam in Kankakee for a hydrological energy plant. Would you be amisble to amend this on its face to include and Wilmington"?"
"I have no problem with that. At this late date, might have a concern."
"Don't say you can't."
"I didn't say that..."
"You can do anything you want to if you have leave, as I understand it."
"If we do that, we'd have to go back to the Senate. I would move for passage in its present form."
"The question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendments #1, 2 and 3 to House Bill 2692?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 114 voting 'aye', 1 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. And the House does concur in Senate Amendments #1, 2 and 3 to House Bill 2692, and this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Ladies and Gentlemen, we have been operating on the Order of Concurrences. In those Amendments that we have concurred in and where there were no nonconcurrences, that was final action. Then where there was a Constitutional Majority, those Bills were declared passed. Agreed Resolutions. Representat..."
"House Resolution 1115, Kulas; 1116, Topinka; 1118, Wojcik - Karpiel; 1119, Mautino; 1120, McGann - Keane; and 183 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 1121, Virginia Frederick."
"Representative Giorgi."
"Madam Speaker, 1115, by Kulas, memorializes Congress to establish a Commission on the Ukraine Famine; 1116, by Topinka, congratulates the Congo Men's Club; 1118, by Wojcik - Karpiel, tells us Schaumburg was honored by the Governor's Home Town Award; 1119, by Mautino, tells of the appointment of a marshal for their parade; 1120, by McGann - Keane, heralds a police retirement; and Virginia Frederick's 1121 really tells us someone was married for 75 years. I move for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."
"The Gentleman has moved for passage of the Agreed Resolutions. All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair... Excuse me. Representative Vinson, on this Motion? Representative Vinson."
"Will the Gentleman yield for questions?"
"The Gentleman will yield for a question on the Agreed Resolutions."
"Did that first Resolution have something to do with a Commission, did you say?"
"The first Resolution memorializes Congress to establish a Commission to study the Ukrainian Famine."
"The what?"
"The Ukrainian Famine."
"The what?"
"Ukrainian Famine."
"Okay. Secondly, is there anything in any of these things that affects the Chicago Skyway?"
"No, just sky hooks."
"Thank you."
"The question is, 'Shall the Agreed Resolutions be passed?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those 184 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984 opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Agreed Resolutions are adopted."
"Death Resolutions."
"House Resolution 1117, LeFlore, in the respect to the memory of Elizabeth Abram."
"Representative Matijevich moves for the adoption of the Death Resolution. All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Death Resolution is adopted. Representative Hawkinson."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. During the time that my voting box was being soldered, we voted on five appropriation Bills, all of which I voted 'yes' on. I've been shown a Roll Call on 1592, the SIU appropriation, which recorded me as voting 'no'. I have confirmed this with the Gentleman who was doing the soldering and confirmed that I did indeed press green on all of those. I would like... as leave of the Body to be recorded as 'aye' on Senate Bill 1592. The Gentleman asks leave to be recorded as voting 'aye' on Senate Bill 1592. Hearing no objections, the Gentleman will be recorded as voting 'aye'. Representative Matijevich on the... Representative Mautino, for what reason do you rise?"
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I had the same request for 2560. I did not have the opportunity to vote on it. It would not change the outcome, and I would like leave to be voted 'aye' on 2560."
"Representative Mautino, the only reason we have done this for Representative Hawkinson is because of the problem with the electronics. We will note your... your remarks for the record. Representative Matijevich on the Adjournment Resolution."
"Not on the Resolution..." 185 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 140th Legislative Day June 26, 1984
"On the Motion."
"On the good news, I now move that the House do stand adjourned until tomorrow, Wednesday, June 26th, is it, or 27th... 27th at 10:00 a.m."
"The Gentleman moves that this House stand adjourned until 10:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Motion is carried. This House is adjourned until 10:00 a.m. tomorrow morning." 186 DOCUMENT NAME T062684 REQ STORE PRINT OPER GROUP COMMAND 9 0 pj DATE 09/25/84 D COPY WIDTH DEPTH 1 66 78 ERROR 10/02/94 STATE OF ILLINOIS 09:00 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX PAGE 1 JUNE 26, 1984 HB-0877 CONCURRENCE PAGE 91 HB-0877 CONCURRENCE PAGE 103 HB-0877 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 94 HB-1190 CONCURRENCE PAGE 132 HB-1348 CONCURRENCE PAGE 133 HB-1427 CONCURRENCE PAGE 137 HB-1448 CONCURRENCE PAGE 139 HB-2040 CONCURRENCE PAGE 164 HB-2211 CONCURRENCE PAGE 143 HB-2325 CONCURRENCE PAGE 149 HB-2334 CONCURRENCE PAGE 155 HB-2355 CONCURRENCE PAGE 150 HB-2359 CONCURRENCE PAGE 153 HB-2400 CONCURRENCE PAGE 94 HB-2458 CONCURRENCE PAGE 96 HB-2475 CONCURRENCE PAGE 165 HB-2479 CONCURRENCE PAGE 157 HB-2516 CONCURRENCE PAGE 161 HB-2560 CONCURRENCE PAGE 168 HB-2566 CONCURRENCE PAGE 170 HB-2574 CONCURRENCE PAGE 172 HB-2576 CONCURRENCE PAGE 96 HB-2598 CONCURRENCE PAGE 174 HB-2657 CONCURRENCE PAGE 175 HB-2666 CONCURRENCE PAGE 175 HB-2684 CONCURRENCE PAGE 176 HB-2692 CONCURRENCE PAGE 178 HB-2693 CONCURRENCE PAGE 105 HB-2810 CONCURRENCE PAGE 97 HB-2837 CONCURRENCE PAGE 100 HB-2892 CONCURRENCE PAGE 100 HB-2917 CONCURRENCE PAGE 101 HB-2953 CONCURRENCE PAGE 102 HB-2987 CONCURRENCE PAGE 106 HB-3177 CONCURRENCE PAGE 104 SB-1386 SECOND READING PAGE 8 SB-1450 SECOND READING PAGE 8 SB-1513 RECALLED PAGE 107 SB-1534 RECALLED PAGE 109 SB-1541 SECOND READING PAGE 19 SB-1546 SECOND READING PAGE 74 SB-1549 SECOND READING PAGE 20 SB-1549 RECALLED PAGE 129 SB-1550 RECALLED PAGE 110 SB-1551 RECALLED PAGE 111 SB-1553 RECALLED PAGE 113 SB-1555 SECOND READING PAGE 22 SB-1556 RECALLED PAGE 113 SB-1557 SECOND READING PAGE 23 SB-1559 RECALLED PAGE 115 SB-1562 RECALLED PAGE 118 SB-1565 SECOND READING PAGE 25 SB-1568 SECOND READING PAGE 32 SB-1571 SECOND READING PAGE 33 SB-1573 RECALLED PAGE 121 SB-1574 SECOND READING PAGE 34 SB-1575 RECALLED PAGE 122 SB-1577 SECOND READING PAGE 46 SB-1583 SECOND READING PAGE 49 SB-1583 SECOND READING PAGE 86 SB-1583 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 54 SB-1587 SECOND READING PAGE 54 SB-1590 THIRD READING PAGE 123 SB-1591 THIRD READING PAGE 123 SB-1592 THIRD READING PAGE 124 10/02/84 STATE OF ILLINOIS 09:00 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY PAGE 2 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX JUNE 26, 1984 SB-1593 THIRD READING PAGE 125 SB-1594 THIRD READING PAGE 125 SB-1595 SECOND READING PAGE 54 SB-1595 SECOND READING PAGE 131 SB-1595 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 59 SB-1597 SECOND READING PAGE 59 SB-1599 SECOND READING PAGE 61 SB-1600 SECOND READING PAGE 68 SB-1609 SECOND READING PAGE 68 SB-1610 SECOND READING PAGE 70 SB-1621 THIRD READING PAGE 126 SB-1649 SECOND READING PAGE 72 SB-1654 THIRD READING PAGE 128 SB-1656 SECOND READING PAGE 73 SB-1893 MOTION PAGE 116 HR-1105 ADOPTED PAGE 3 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER - REPRESENTATIVE GREIMAN PAGE 1 PRAYER - REVEREND SIMON A. SIMON PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 2 ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 2 MESSAGE FROM SENATE PAGE 2 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 6 DEATH RESOLUTION PAGE 7 RECESS PAGE 91 HOUSE RECONVENES - REP. GREIMAN IN CHAIR PAGE 92 REPRESENTATIVE BRESLIN IN CHAIR PAGE 110 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 183 DEATH RESOLUTION PAGE 185 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 186