Illinois House Floor Debate — April 23, 1985

"House will come to order. Members will be in their seat. The Chaplain for today will be the Reverend Duane Nevis, pastor of the Wesley United Methodist Church of Naperville, Illinois. Pastor Mevis is the guest of Representative Mary Lou Cowlishaw. Will the guests in the gallery rise and join us in the invocation?"

"Let us pray. O God, we pause to thank You for this good land, for our heritage within it. We know You as the one who brought order out of chaos at the beginning of time and we thank You for those here and everywhere who daily put the common good above personal gain. We thank You for seeds of freedom, justice and righteousness that continue to find places to root and grow. We pray for our president, our national leaders and especially now for our State Legislators. Remember them with Your mercy, as they are often confronted with great pressures, appealing temptations and difficult choices. Give them wisdom in thinking, truth in speaking and love in their hearts. Help them and all of us always to set the interests of community above those of party, the interests of nation above those of community and faithfulness to You above everything else. And grant that at the end of the day we may win the approval of our own conscience and the respect of our peers and Your 'well done'. May we all live constantly in the joy of Your presence. This we ask for Your love's sake. Amen."

"We will be led in the Pledge by Representative Ropp."

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day

"Roll Call for Attendance. April 23, 1985 Have all recorded themselves as they wish? The Clerk will take the record. Let the record show that there are 116 Members answering 'present' to this Roll Call and a quorum is present. Representative Matijevich, to you have any excused absences?"

"Yes. Let the record show that Representative Jesse White is excused for absence today."

"Representative McCracken, do you have any excused absences, Sir?"

"Just one, Madam Chairman. David Harris."

"Thank you very much. Ladies and Gentlemen, on page 13 on your Calendar appears the Consent Calendar, Second Reading Second Day. Mr. Clerk, read the Bills."

"House Bill 802, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1165, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Second Reading of the Bill."

"Are there any Amendments filed?"

"No Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1165. We have moved all... both of the Bills on the Consent Calendar now to Third Reading. Agreed Resolutions."

"House Resolution 244, offered by Representative McGann. 245, by Representative Ropp. 246, by Representative Ropp. And 247, by Representative Matijevich et al. And Senate Joint Resolution #40, offered by Representative Oblinger."

"Representative Giorgi, on the Agreed Resolutions."

"Madam Speaker, House Resolution 244, by McGann, commends Al Robinson. 245, by Ropp, congratulates the men's basketball team. 246, by Ropp, the women's basketball 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day April 23, 1985 team. 247, by Matijevich, honors Emily 'Merlock'. And Oblinger's Senate Joint #40 lauds Frank 'Belrose'. And I move for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. Hearing no objections, the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Ladies and Gentlemen, on your Calendar, on page four, appears House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate Calendar. House Bill 294, Representative Steczo. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 294, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Emergency Services and Disaster Agency Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Steczo, amends House Bill 294 on page one by deleting line one and so forth."

"Representative Steczo."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 294, as amended, seeks to address a problem as it relates to emergency services and disaster agencies created in townships in Cook County. With the adoption of Amendment #1, there were a few problems created which has... which needed to be discussed between the State Emergency Services and Disaster Agency and the County of Cook. With Amendment #2, those problems have been answered and basically what Amendment #2 does is to provide that the townships who wish to create an emergency service and disaster area in Cook County must, within thirty days after the enactment of this law, provide a copy of the report to the State ESDA, and must also have an approved report, and 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day approved plan on file with the Cook April 23, 1985 County Sheriff's Office. It makes it really applicable to only one township in Cook... in Cook County... a township which currently does have and is the only township in the state that does have an emergency services and disaster agency. And I would move for the adoption of Amendment #2."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 294, and on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Piel. Remember this Bill is on Short Debate."

"Would... Thank you, Madam Speaker. With the diligence of the House, I would like to ask some questions in reference to the Amendment."

"Proceed."

"Terry, what do you... Who is setting up as the county coordinator. I know it's got to have the approval prior to with the county coordinator."

"Representative Piel, could you restate that, please?"

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Basically, the township must have the approval of the county coordinator prior to establishing... the county coordinator is who?"

"The county coordinator is the Sheriff of Cook County."

"Okay, then this would only take effect then in Cook County, correct?"

"That's correct."

"Okay, now could you also explain the disaster plan that has to be on file, the township's disaster plan with the county that has to be on file in counties of more than one million."

"Representative Piel, it's the same disaster plan that currently all municipalities that have an emergency services and disaster agency have to keep on file. It's a detailed plan of how they plan to deal with various 4  28th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 64th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 23, 1985 emergencies that arise."

"Fine. Thank you very much."

"There being no further discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 to House Bill 294 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

Clerk O'Brien" "No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 375, Representative Hicks. Representative Hicks. Out of the record. House Bill 394, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 394, a Bill for an Act to add Sections to the Illinois Public Aid Code and the Illinois Administrative Procedure Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 430, Representative Matijevich - Giorgi - Saltsman. Representative Matijevich, Giorgi or Saltsman. Out of the record. House Bill 639, Representative Woodyard. Representative Woodyard. Out of the record. House Bill 705, Representative DeJaegher. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 705, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Floor Amendments? Excuse me. Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments." 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day

"Third Reading. House Bill 714, April 23, 1985 Representative Wojcik. Out of the record. House Bill 778, out of the record. House Bill 787, out of the record. House Bill 1013, Representative Preston. Representative Preston. Out of the record. Appearing on page four on your Calendar, Ladies and Gentlemen, appears House Bills Second Reading. House Bill 1, Representative Cullerton. House Bill 1. Clerk, read the Bill. Excuse me, Representative Cullerton. Representative Cullerton, you have filed the fiscal note, however, there is a request for a state debt impact note which has not been filed on this Bill. Do you wish us to proceed? Is it possible to proceed at this point, Representative Cullerton? Representative McCracken, do you wish to speak to this issue? Very good."

"Does he want to proceed?"

"You weren't recognized, Representative McCracken. Okay, out of the record. House Bill 25, Representative Giorgi and Representative Hallock. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 25, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act to revise the law in relation to county clerks. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 33, Representative Terzich. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 33, a Bill for an Act to restrict smoking in public places and provide penalties for violation thereof. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee." 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day

"Are there any Motions filed?"

April 23, 1985 "Motion to table Amendment #1 to House Bill 33, by Representative Vinson."

"Representative Vinson." "Madam Speaker, has the State Mandates Act note been filed in relationship to this Bill?"

"So we "Our Calendar indicates that it has been." are proceeding on my Motion Gentleman's Amendment?"

"That is correct." Vinson: to table the "Madam Speaker and Members of the Assembly, the Gentleman's Amendment is an Amendment which has a negative impact on the concept of home rule in the State of Illinois. Now, it is also true that the Bill has a negative impact on the concept of home rule in the State of Illinois, but the Amendment doesn't cure that problem as it might have been intended to do and he needs a much better Amendment to do that. The Bill still involves, even with that Amendment, adverse impact limitation of home rule powers and mandates on home rule units of government and other local units of government in the State of Illinois. I don't believe that we should permit this Amendment to go with the Bill because if we take this Amendment off the Bill, the Gentleman will have to come in with a Bill... with an Amendment which absolutely cleans up the Bill and removes the impact and the cost on home rule and local units of government. Now, the Speaker has been most forthright in condemning past efforts in this General Assembly to impose impacts on local units of government which raise costs for taxpayers at those local levels of government and he has adopted a program to strike at any possibility that this General Assembly might continue its war on local governments. This Amendment that is on the 7  28th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 23, 1985 Bill now is part of a concerted effort against local government in the State of Illinois. By supporting my Motion to table you will be effectuating your constituents desires that we place local power in local hands and that we stop passing sweeping mandates and shipping the bill to the local taxpayers. I would urge a 'yes' vote on the Motion to table the Amendment."

"The Gentleman has moved to table Amendment #1 to House Bill 33, and on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Terzich."

"Yes, Madam Speaker. I wish I knew what the previous speaker was talking about. It was certainly kind of confusing. Amendment #1, which was adopted unanimously in Committee, simply would stipulate that... which is pertaining to the Indoor Clean Air Act, which was stated that it did not affect any home rule mandates and, therefore, the mandate wasn't even required, as stated by the... under the State Mandate Act. What the Amendment only did is that it allows local government organizations to enact more strict no smoking regulations than those that are provided under the legislation. I'm sure that all of us are aware that some local units of government may want to incorporate no smoking because of either health or safety rules and, therefore, this Amendment simply allows the local unit of government to do that and certainly is necessary on this legislation and I would move that we vote against the Motion to table Amendment #1."

"Representative McCracken, to the Motion."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise in support of the Motion and cite Rule 42 to the House, where it holds that no Bill denies or limits any power or function of a home rule unit unless there is specific language limiting or denying that power. The fact of the matter is that House 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day April 23, 1985 Bill 33, as amended with #1, falls within Rule 42. So the question becomes, 'Do you want to fully exempt or not have applied to home rule units HB 33 and then make it a simple 60 or 61 vote majority for passage or do you want to leave Amendment #1 on?' It... Amendment #1 specifically, explicitly applies to home rule units of government and allows them to pass only more restrictive measures. It is clearly a preemption of home rule authority and if it on Third Reading does not receive 71 votes, then it would be appropriate to declare it not passed. So I move to table it at this time and you can proceed with Majority. I support the Motion to table."

"There being Representative Vinson to close." Vinson: to a no further Constitutional discussion, "Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would urge a favorable vote on this Motion to table an Amendment. I offer the Motion to table the Amendment because its time that we stopped imposing sweeping mandates on local government and shipping the Bill the property taxpayers to pay for those mandates. Amendment #1 continues the thrust of that program and I urge an 'aye' vote for my Motion table, which will take Amendment #1 off the Bill and compel the Sponsor to deal responsibly with the subject of mandates and local cost." to

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to House Bill 33 be tabled?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Representative Terzich, for what reason do you rise?"

"Well, yes, as I mentioned that I am... I am not in favor and I hoped that we would get a 'no' vote on this Motion. This, of course, is my legislation and I would rather have the Bill passed with..."

"Representative Vinson, for what reason do you 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day rise?"

"The Gentleman spoke in debate. of the Motion." April 23, 1985

He is not the Sponsor Speaker Breslin: "Your point is well-taken, Representative Vinson. Representative Homer, would you vote me please? I wish to be recorded as voting 'no'. Representative Terzich, for what reason do you rise?"

"Well, Madam Speaker, it's my Bill and I should be able to respond to..."

"It's your Bill, Sir, but you... I'm sorry, Sir. You are not able to speak both in debate and then in explanation of vote when you are not the Sponsor of the Amendment. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 48 voting 'aye' and 50 voting 'no'. Representative Vinson, for what reason do you rise?"

"To request a verification of the negative Roll Call."

"The Gentleman has requested a verification of the negative Roll Call. Representative Terzich wishes... Representative Terzich,"

"If that prevails, I would like to have a..."

"Very good. Would you verify the negative Roll Calls, Representative . Representative Laurino, for what reason do you rise? Representative Laurino wishes to be recorded as voting 'no', Mr. Clerk. Mr. Clerk, Representative DeLeo wishes to be recorded as voting 'no'. Representative Wolf wishes to be recorded as voting 'no'. Representative Panayotovich wishes to be recorded as voting 'no'. Okay. Give me the count before we proceed, Mr. Clerk, please. Representative Homer. Representative Homer wishes to vote 'no'. Representative Vinson. Representative Vinson, there are 48 voting 'aye' and 54 voting 'no'. Do you wish to proceed with the verification? 10  28th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 23, 1985 He does, Representative Johnson, for what reason do you rise? Representative Johnson wishes to vote 'no'. There are, therefore, 55 voting 'no'. Proceed, Mr. Clerk."

"Poll of the Negative Votes. Alexander. Berrios. Bowman. Braun. Breslin. Brookins. Brunsvold. Capparelli. Christensen. Cullerton. Curran. Currie. DeLeo. Dunn. Flowers. Giglio. Giorgi. Greiman. Hicks. Homer. Huff. Johnson. Keane. Koehler. Krska. Kulas. Laurino. LeFlore. Levin. Matijevich. McGann. Nash. O'Connell. Panayotovich. Phelps. Rice. Ronan. Ropp. Saltsman. Satterthwaite. Shaw. Soliz. Stange. Steczo. Stern. Sutker. Terzich. Turner. Van Duyne. Vitek. Wait. Washington. Wolf. Anthony Young and Wyvetter Younge. No further."

"Mr. Clerk, Representative Hartke wishes to change his vote from 'aye' to 'no' and Representative Vinson, Representative Brookins asks leave to be verified. Is that granted? That is granted, Representative Brookins. Proceed, Representative Vinson."

"Representative Alexander."

"Representative Alexander is in her chair."

"Representative Christensen."

"Representative Christensen. Representative Christensen. The Gentleman is not in the chamber. Remove him."

"Representative DeLeo."

"Representative DeLeo is in the chamber."

"Representative Giglio."

"Representative Giglio. Representative Giglio is in the chamber."

"Representative Hicks."

"Representative Hicks. Representative Hicks. The Gentleman is not in the chamber. Remove him." 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day April 23, 1985

"Representative Huff."

"Representative Huff. Representative Huff. The Gentleman is not in the chamber. Remove him."

"Representative Levin."

"Representative Levin is in the chamber on your side of the aisle."

"Where?"

"On your side of the aisle."

"Are you sure?"

"For a change."

"Well, I knew it was getting to be a broader party, but... Representative Nash."

"Representative Nash is in the chamber."

"Representative Phelps."

"Representative Phelps is in the chamber."

"Representative Satterthwaite."

"Representative Satterthwaite is in her chair."

"Representative Sutker."

"Representative Sutker is in his chair."

"Where is his chair?"

"Directly in the middle. Would you stand, Representative Sutker, and wave to Representative Vinson?"

"Representative Van Duyne."

"Representative Van Duyne is in the chamber."

"Representative Washington."

"Representative Washington is in his chair."

"Representative Curran."

"Representative Curran. Representative Curran. Is the Gentleman in the chamber. Representative Curran. Remove Representative Curran."

"Representative Shaw."

"Representative Shaw. Representative Shaw is in the chamber." 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day

"Representative O'Connell." April 23, 1985

"Representative O'Connell is in the chamber."

"Representative Wolf."

"Representative Wolf is in his chair."

"Representative Preston."

"Representative Krska is in his chair."

"No, Preston."

"Representative Preston. Representative

Preston. Vinson: "The man with the fingerprint machine."

"The Gentleman is not in the chamber. Excuse me. Representative Preston is not voting, Sir."

"Representative Rice."

"Representative Rice is in the chamber, in his chair. Representative Alexander asks leave to be verified although I think she has been verified once."

"No further questions."

"Representative Barger, for what reason do you rise?"

"Madam Speaker, would... Madam Speaker, would you add me to the 'yes' votes, please?"

"Representative Barger wishes to be recorded as voting 'aye', Mr. Clerk. Representative Curran has returned to the chamber. He wishes to be returned to the Roll Call as voting 'no'. Representative Kirkland seeks recognition and wishes to be recorded as voting 'no'. Representative Farley. Representative Farley."

"Would you record me 'no', please?"

"Representative Farley wishes to be recorded as voting 'no'. Representative Pangle, for what reason do you rise?"

"Yes, would you record me as 'no', please?"

"Representative Pangle wishes to be recorded as 13  28th Legislative Day voting 'no'. STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 23, 1985 Representative Flinn wishes to be recorded as voting 'no'. Representative Richmond wishes to be recorded as voting 'no'. Mr. Clerk, can you give me the Roll Call, please? On this Motion there are 48 'ayes' and 58 'nos', and the Motion fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Piel, amends House Bill 33 on page one, line 27 by inserting after the period the following: 'Public place and so forth'."

"Mr. Clerk, has this Amendment been printed and distributed? It has been printed and distributed. Mr... Would someone give Representative Terzich a copy of Amendment #2, please? Yes, Representative Terzich, the Amendment was filed just before we began on your Bill, but it has been printed and distributed. Representative Piel, on Amendment #2."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 basically is clarifying language that a public place does not mean a retail establishment that derives 75 percent of its income from the retail sale of alcoholic liquor, which means a... basically what we are doing is a bar that sells sandwiches would be classified in this category. And all that... the clarifying language on this is basically, you know, clarifying as far as what a liquor establishment or a bar is classified as and I'd ask for a... you know, affirmative vote on Amendment #2 on House Bill 33."

"The Gentleman has moved for adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 33, and on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, the Sponsor, Representative Terzich."

"Yes, Madam Speaker. I oppose Amendment #2. Basically, the Amendment is nothing more than dilatory anyhow. It was 14  28th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 23, 1985 just filed five minutes ago and I don't know how it got printed and distributed, but the... this would simply ... the public place means any indoor... enclosed indoor area used by the public. You don't need any 75 percent of retail establishments. It is specifically outlined in the Bill and the Bill should be voted on as is and not some frivolous Amendment... 75 percent of the liquor sales. And so I would move that we do not adopt Amendment #2 and vote "no"."

"There being no further discussion, Representative Piel is recognized to close."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Madam Speaker, could we have some order here, please? It's beyond my comprehension why the Sponsor is opposing this Amendment. If he is in a situation where he says he hasn't had a chance to read the Amendment, hey, I'm willing to hold the Amendment and come back to the Bill tomorrow or later on today when he has had a chance to read it. But as far as, you know, using as an excuse he hasn't had a chance to read the Amendment when it has been printed and distributed on the Members desks, I mean that's sort of a flimsy excuse. What this basically states according to the Bill the way it is written right now, that a bar, tavern is classified as a public place. Very few times do you go into a bar where there are not people smoking.. And this would just be exempting a establishment that has... 75 percent of its income is derived from liquor sales being exempt from this Act. It does not exempt a restaurant, like the Gentleman vas a little bit worried about that before. It doesn't exempt a restaurant, but it does exempt a bar. And I think it is a good Amendment. It's a fair Amendment. I was, you know, the Gentleman vas in a discussion with Representative Vinson before. I'd be more 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th Legislative Day April 23, 1985 than happy to talk to him. If he has questions as far as the Amendment, I'll be more than happy to hold the Amendment until he has a chance to read it. But I would ask for a favorable Roll Call and I would ask for a Roll Call on this, Madam Speaker, on Amendment #2, please."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 to House Bill 33 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 51 voting 'aye' and 57 voting 'no'. Representative Piel, for what reason do you rise?"

"I'd like to verify the negative, please."

"The Gentleman wishes to verify the Negative Roll Call. Would you read the Negative Roll Call? Poll the Negative Roll Call, Mr. Clerk. Representative Terzich, for what reason do you rise?"

"Well, it's another dilatory tactic, but if... if it should... if the vote changes, I would like to have a verification also."

"Surely, Representative. Representative Brookins asks leave to be verified again. Is that okay, Representative Piel? Very good."

"Poll of the Negative Roll Call. Alexander. Berrios. Bowman. Braun. Breslin. Brookins. Brunsvold. Bullock. Capparelli. Cullerton. Currie. Dunn. Farley. Flinn. Flowers. Giglio. Giorgi. Greiman. Hartke. Homer. Huff. Johnson. Keane. Klemm. Koehler. Krska. Kulas. Laurino. LeFlore. Leverenz. Levin. Matijevich. McGann. McPike. Nash. O'Connell. Panayotovich. Pangle. Phelps. Rice. Ronan. Ropp. Saltsman. Satterthwaite. Soliz. Steczo. Stern. Sutker. Terzich. Turner. Vitek. Wait. Washington. Wolf. Anthony Young. Hyvetter 16  28th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Younge. And Mr. Speaker."

"Representative Christensen April 23, 1985 wishes to be recorded as voting 'no'. There are, therefore, 51 voting 'aye' and 58 voting 'no', Representative Piel. Do you have any questions of the Negative Roll Call?"

"As a matter of fact, I do, Madam Speaker."

"Proceed."

"Representative Alexander."

"Representative Alexander. Representative Alexander. The Lady has left the chamber. Remove her."

"Representative Braun."

"Representative Braun is in the chamber."

"Representative Bullock."

"Representative Bullock is in the chamber."

"Representative Capparelli."

"Representative Capparelli is... Representative Alexander has returned to the chamber and Representative Capparelli. Representative Capparelli is in the chamber."

"Representative Currie."

"Representative Currie is in her seat."

"Representative Farley."

"Representative Farley is in the... his seat."

"Representative Flinn."

"Representative Flinn is in his seat."

"Representative Giglio."

"Representative Giglio. Representative Giglio is in his seat. Representative Van Duyne wishes to be recorded as voting 'aye'. Record Representative Van Duyne as voting 'aye'. Proceed, Representative Piel."

"Representative Johnson."

"Representative Johnson is in the chamber."

"Representative Huff."

"Representative Huff. Representative Huff. Is 17  28th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 34th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 23, 1985 the Gentleman in the chamber? Remove him."

"Representative Brookins."

"Representative Brookins was already verified, Sir."

"Representative Satterthwaite."

"Representative Satterthwaite is in her chair."

"Representative Brunsvold."

"Representative Brunsvold. Representative Brunsvold. The Gentleman is not in the chamber. Remove him."

"Representative Nash."

"Representative Nash is in the chamber."

"Representative Curran."

"Representative Curran. Representative Curran. Excuse me. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Representative Curran voted 'aye', Sir. If you would like to have him removed, we could."

"No, I'll wait for Bob to do that. Representative Ronan."

"Representative Ronan. Representative Ronan is in his chair."

"Representative Keane."

"Representative Keane is in his chair."

"Representative Pangle."

"Representative Pangle. The Gentleman is in his seat. Excuse me. Representative Nash asks to change his vote from 'no' to 'aye'. Record Representative Nash as voting 'aye'. Representative Pullen, for what reason do you rise?"

"Please record me as voting 'no'."

"Representative Pullen should be recorded as voting 'no'. Do you have any more questions of the Negative Roll Call?"

"Did I ask Capparelli?" 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day

"Yes, you did."

"Representative Levin." April 23, 1985

"Representative Levin is in the Chamber."

"No further questions, Madam Speaker."

"Mr. Clerk, can you tell us what the count is? On this Amendment, there are 53 voting 'aye' and 54 voting 'no' and the Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 50, Representative Preston. Clerk, read the Bill. Representative Preston, House Bill 50."

"House Bill 50, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 51, Representative Preston. Clerk, read the Bill. Excuse me, Representative Preston. There is a State Mandates Act fiscal note requested on this Bill. We, therefore, cannot proceed until it is filed. Excuse me. Very good. I understand that that fiscal note is being filed right now. We can, therefore, proceed on House Bill 51."

"House Bill 51, a Bill for an Act to add Sections to the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Amendments filed?"

"No Floor Amendments." 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day

"Third Reading. April 23, 1985 House Bill 52, Representative Preston. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 52, a Bill for an Act..."

"Representative Preston, for what reason do you seek recognition? Representative Preston."

"Would you... 52 I'd like to take out of the record, please."

"Out of the record on House Bill 52. 53, out of the record? House Bill 56. Representative... Representative Preston, on House Bill 53."

"Yes, I'd like to have House Bill 53 read, please."

"Okay. Proceed, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 53, a Bill for an Act to add Sections to the Code of Criminal Procedure. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motion filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments?" out of the

"Third Reading. House Bill 56, record. House Bill 68, Representative Rea. Out of the record. House Bill 150, out of the record. House Bill 159, out of the record. House Bill 160, out of the record. House Bill 181, Representative Currie. Out of the record. House Bill 308, Representative McPike - Wolf. Representative Wolf or McPike. Out of the record. House Bill 319, Representative Braun. A fiscal note has been requested. Out of the record. You realize a fiscal note has been requested. House Bill 356, Representative Brunsvold. Out of the record. House Bill 360, Representative Homer. Representative Homer. Out of the record. House Bill 370 is out of the record as an appropriation Bill. House Bill 381, Representative 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day McCracken. Out of the record, April 23, 1985 House Bill 405, Representative Tate. Where is Tate? Representative Tate. Out of the record. House Bill 406, Representative McCracken. Out of the record. House Bill 408, Representative Hicks and Churchill. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 408, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act relating to the acquisition, possession and transfer of firearms and firearm ammunition. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None,"

"Third Reading. House Bill 414, Representative Ropp Koehler. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 414..."

"Out of the record, excuse me. House Bill 419, out of the record. House Bill 448, Representative Giglio. A fiscal note has been requested, Representative Giglio, and no complied with. Out of the record. House Bill 493, Representative Frederick, Virginia Frederick. Out of the record. House Bill 500, Representative Cullerton. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 500, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed?"

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments." Speaker Breslin; "Third Reading. House Bill 501, out of the record. House Bill 507, Representative McGann. Capparelli. Representative McGann. Out of the record. House Bill 511, out of the record. House Bill 512, out of the record. House Bill 513, Representative Hicks - Rea. 21  28th Legislative Day Read the Bill. STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 23, 1985 Excuse me, Representative Hicks. There is a request for a fiscal note on this Bill and we, therefore, cannot move the Bill. Out of the record. House Bill 521, Representative McCracken. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 521, a Bill for an Act in relation to anti-trust immunity for activities of units of local government and school districts. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 545, Representative Rea and Richmond. Representative Rea and Richmond. Out of the record. House Bill 571, Representative Flinn. Representative Flinn. Out of the record. House Bill 572, Representative Dunn. A fiscal note has been requested. Out of the record. House Bill 575, Representative Dunn, John Dunn. Christensen - Van Duyne. Out of the record. House Bill 582, Representative Woodyard. Out of the record. House Bill 591, Representative Pangle. Representative Pangle. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 591, a Bill for an Act in relation to burial of dead human bodies. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendment?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 593, Representative Berrios - Capparelli. Representative Berrios. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 593, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments." 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None." April 23, 1985

"Third Reading. House Bill 597 has a fiscal note requested, Representative Bowman. The Bill will, therefore, be out of the record. House Bill 598, Representative Saltsman. Representative Saltsman. Out of the record. House Bill 599, out of the record. 640, Representative McAuliffe. Out of the record. Duyne. House Bill Representative McAuliffe. House Bill 636, Representative Van Representative Van Duyne. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 696, a Bill for an Act amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Committee Amendments."

Second Reading of the Bill. No Speaker Breslin: "Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 702, Representative Kirkland. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 702, a Bill for an Act concerning working cash funds and amending certain Acts therein named. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Kirkland, amends House Bill 702 by deleting everything after line 14 and so forth."

"Representative Kirkland."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This Amendment is simply to take the Chicago Sanitary District, Chicago School Board and the Chicago School Finance Authority out of the Bill. The Bill deals with various types of local government and their working cash funds and there was agreement in Committee that this Amendment would be added on Second Reading."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day Amendment #1 to House Bill 702, and on that April 23, 1985 question, the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative McCracken."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He will yield for a question."

"Does this require a payback of the funds within the fiscal year of the borrowing? Was that ever resolved? I think we talked about that in Committee."

"That isn't in this Bill, I don't believe. I don't think so."

"Could we hold it?"

"You want to hold it?"

"Yeah... Can we pass it for a short time?"

"... Tom, it has nothing to do with the Amendment, number one. That question has nothing to do with this Amendment. Okay, we'll hold it."

"The agreement is that this will be held for a short time. You can come back within a few minutes, if you wish to. Out of the record. House Bill 711, Representative Preston - McCracken. Out of the record. House Bill 715, Representative Nash - DeLeo. Representative Nash or DeLeo. Out of the record. House Bill 720, Representative Madigan - Daniels - Greiman. Out of the record. House Bill 722, Representative McGann. Representative McGann. House Bill 722. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 722, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Hospital Licensing Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions and no Floor Amendments."

"No Floor Amendments. Representative McGann, for what reason do you rise?"

"Madam Speaker, would you kindly take this out of the 24  28th Legislative Day record?"

"Okay, out of the record. House Bill 751, Representative Terzich. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 751, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 793, Representative McPike. Out of the record. House Bill 860, Representative Dunn. Out of the record. House Bill 950, Representative Ropp. Out of the record. House Bill 1081, out of the record. House Bill 1157, Representative Johnson Capparelli - Terzich. Representative Johnson, Capparelli or Terzich. Out of the record. With permission of the Assembly, we would like to go back to pick up a Bill that is ready to be acted on now on page four on your Calendar, under House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1, Representative Cullerton. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill #1, a Bill for an Act in relation to passenger seat belts for school buses and the inspection thereof by school boards. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Have all the proper notes been filed?"

"The state debt... the Mandates note... Act has been filed."

"Representative Piel, for what reason do you rise?"

"A question of the Chair, Madam Speaker. Could you tell me 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day when the April 23, 1985 request was filed and when the Mandates Note Act was filed and by who, please?"

"Mr. Clerk, could you answer those questions? Out of the record. House Bill 181, Representative Currie. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 181, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Ladies and Gentlemen, again, with the permission of the House, we'll go back to House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate Calendar on page four on your Calendar for a Bill that is now ready for Representative Woodyard. Clerk, read the Bill. House Bill 639."

"House Bill 639, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Woodyard."

"Representative Woodyard."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #1 was offered or suggested by the Department of Transportation and it is a technical change in the Bill in which it simply deletes a word 'roadway' and inserts the definition 'highway'. I would ask for the adoption of this Amendment."

"The Gentleman has moved to adopt Amendment #1 to House Bill 639, and on that question, is there any discussion? Representative Cullerton."

"Yes, I... Would the Sponsor yield for a question?"

"The Gentleman will yield for a question." 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day

"I couldn't hear you. Could Amendment does again, please?" April 23, 1985 you explain what the

"Yes. Representative, the original Bill, a Bill sponsored by Representative Hicks and myself regarding lights on snowplows and that kind of equipment in the Bill it refers to use of this equipment on a roadway. Department of Transportation felt that we should use the word highway rather than roadway. And so that's all the Amendment does is change from roadway to highway."

"Did they say what the difference... Did they explain what the difference was between a roadway and a highway?"

"I have never been able to fathom what Illinois Department of Transportation thinks in their interpretation of this."

"Okay, fine. Thank you."

"There being no further discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to House Bill 639 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. On that same order of business, Ladies and Gentlemen, appears House Bill 375, Representative Hicks. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 375, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Zwick is recognized for the purpose of a Motion."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise to request that House Bill 741, of which I am Chief Sponsor, be tabled." 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day

April 23, 1985 "The Lady moves to table Amendment #... or table House Bill 741, of which she is a Chief Sponsor. Hearing no objection, the Bill is tabled. Ladies and Gentlemen, on page eight on your Calendar is House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate Calendar, House Bill 31, Representative McNamara. Out of the record, House Bill 47, Representative Leverenz. Out of the record. House Bill 120, Representative Friedrich. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 120, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Real Estate Transfer Tax Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Friedrich."

"Under the present law, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, when there is a foreclosure under the present law, the financial institution has to pay revenue stamps to get the title in their name and then turn around and pay revenue stamps when the property is sold. This merely exempts the foreclosure procedure itself from the revenue stamps and as far as I know, there is no opposition to it."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 120, and on that question, is there any discussion? The Gentleman is moving for final passage, Ladies and Gentlemen. There being... The Gentleman from Cook, Representative O'Connell, on the Bill."

"Madam Speaker, I could not hear the explanation of the Bill. May I ask for..."

"Your point is well-taken, Representative O'Connell."

"And I have a question after the explanation."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, we are on Third Reading at final passage stage on these Bills. Members cannot hear the debate unless you lower your tone of voice and your conversation. Representative O'Connell has a question of 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 34th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th Legislative Day April 23, 1985 the Sponsor of the Bill, Representative Friedrich. Please proceed, Representative O'Connell."

"I'm sorry, Representative. I didn't hear the explanation, but I thought that this would remove the transfer tax on sales pursuant to foreclosure actions."

"It would remove it at the time of the foreclosure, but the lending agency that took possession of the property would have to pay the tax when it sells it or transfers someone else. It eliminates a double tax actually."

"So presently, there would be a transfer tax when the to person who foreclosed the property obtained title to the real estate?"

"There is now, but... and then he pays it twice. He pays it again... when he gets it and then again when he sells it. This would leave the tax in when he sells it."

"But the person who is obtaining title pursuant to the foreclosure action isn't necessarily the same person that would be selling the property a second time."

"Well, I can't think of a situation like that. The one who forecloses would get title in their name and then they would have to sell it to transfer it to someone else and at that time he pays the revenue stamps, the same as any other seller."

"But the seller pays the transfer tax, right?"

"Right."

"Well, who pays it in the case of a foreclosure?"

"Well, the one who forecloses, in this case, and then he has to turn around and pay it again when he sells it. So it's a double tax as it stands now. This merely amends it so that he would pay it at the time that he sells it to a bonafide purchaser."

"Thank you."

"There being no further discussion, the question 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day April 23, 1985 is, 'Shall House Bill 120 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no', Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 79 voting 'aye', 23 voting 'no' and 7 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 190, Representative Leverenz. Out of the record. House Bill 228, Representative Zwick. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 228, a Bill for an Act to amend the Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Zwick."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 228, as amended in Committee, requires that all garbage trucks, both new and old, would be equipped with an automatic backup signal which would make a sound that is audible from the rear of the truck automatically when the garbage truck backs up. This was brought about by several accidents which have taken place in the last few years resulting in both injury and death to various people including... mostly children, to be quite honest with you. I felt that it was necessary that all garbage trucks because of the size of the garbage trucks and the difficulty of a driver seeing behind him when he does back up that it is necessary that all garbage trucks make this noise. All large equipment currently is mandated to have this. Garbage trucks were just small enough that they slipped out from under the OSHA Federal requirements. So we would like to require this at the state level. And I know of no opposition to this Bill at the current time. I thank you very much and request your support."

"The Lady has moved for passage... the Lady has moved for passage of House Bill 228, and on that question, 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day April 23, 1985 is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 228 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there 101 voting 'aye' 7 voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. Representative Leverenz wishes to be recorded as voting 'aye'. There are therefore 102... and Representative Barnes wishes to vote 'aye'. There are 103 voting 'aye', 7 voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 241, Representative Ronan. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 241, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to infrastructure revolving loan fund. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Ronan."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. I'd like to call the Bill back for an Amendment."

"The Gentleman has asked that this Bill return to the Order of Second Reading. Hearing no objection, the Bill is on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments filed?"

"Amendment #1, Ronan, amends House Bill 241 on page one and so forth."

"Representative Ronan."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This is a very simple Amendment. We were going to put it on in Committee, but it wasn't prepared in time so I'd like to add it now on the floor. Basically, what it does is it expands the coverage of what this legislation would handle dealing with infrastructure rebuilding where we can also include financing for transit and solid waste facilities. It also clarifies some further language dealing with community 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day involvement. I'll be glad to answer April 23, 1985 any questions concerning the Amendment."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 241, and on that question, the Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."

"I wonder if the Sponsor might yield for a question?"

"He will yield for a question."

"Representative, do I understand the Amendment to mean that you have given up on the idea of getting money from the Federal Government and now you are after some state source of funds for infrastructures?"

"No, Representative Vinson, I have tremendous faith in the Reagan administration. I'm going to take your lead and I'm going to put my future in Ronald Reagan's hands and I assume that he's going to just send a big pot of money here to Illinois."

"And is the real purpose of the Amendment... is the next one going to be a build Illinois Amendment?"

"Representative Vinson, as you are well aware, we are for build Illinois, as long as those dollars go where they are needed, including your county and some of the other fine counties in this state because I know it's going to go to your county."

"Thank you."

"Representative Mautino, on the Amendment."

"Will the Gentleman yield?"

"He will yield for a question."

"Representative Ronan, would you please explain to me the provisions on the twenty percentiles used in the categories for those communities that can use these funds?"

"Representative Mautino, do you have a question of Representative Ronan?"

"I posed my question, Madam Speaker. I didn't get a 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 23, 1985 28th Legislative Day response yet."

"Yeah, Madam Speaker. I'm looking at the Amendment right now. I'll be right there with a response. The intent of the Amendment, it says that 20 percent of the financing of this program must be given to 20 percent of the communities in this state who are most in need of it. So it limits it to 20 percent of the financing of the program."

"Representative Mays, to the Amendment."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield for a question?"

"The Gentleman will yield for a question."

"This is more ΟΣ less a followup on Representative Mautino's question. On page two, lines 15 through 24, there is three qualifiers on this thing as to... as to what, who is going to be eligible for this pot of funds?"

"Madam Speaker, I can't hear the question."

"Representative Mays, would you repeat your question? Ladies and Gentlemen, we are having difficulty hearing on the floor again. Representative Mays to repeat his question."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. Mr. Sponsor, on page two, lines 15 through 24, are basically, as I read it, criteria for determining eligibility for this... these monies, for infrastructure repair. Is that correct?"

"Yes, they are."

"And a given unit of local government must meet two of the three criteria set forth in this Bill. Is that correct?"

"That is correct."

"Have you any idea what cities would be... would fall within these categories or what units would not?"

"Representative Hays, what we are going to do is we're going to strike that Section of the Amendment so that what I'll do is I'm going to hold the Bill until I can remove 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day that provision."

"Thank you very much," April 23, 1985

"So, Representative Mays, what I would like to do, if possible, is adopt this Amendment and then I will have followup Amendment... I'll hold the Bill on Second Reading and I'll have a followup Amendment to strike this Section."

"Very good. Is there any further discussion? There being no further discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to House Bill 241 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Representative Ronan, a fiscal note... Representative Ronan. Representative Ronan, a fiscal note has been filed on this Bill also at this time, the request for the fiscal note, I should say. The Bill, therefore, remains on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 335, Representative Ewing. Clerk, read the Bill. Out of the record. House Bill 337, Representative Ewing. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 337, a Bill for an Act to amend the Agricultural Areas Conservation and Protection Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Ewing."

"Mr. Speaker... Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Bill 337 amends the Ag Areas Conservation Act and basically it provides for how additional land can be added to ag areas. It provides for the reporting of counties when ag areas are created within a county to the state. It also asks the county boards to report to the county when an ag area is eliminated, when it is removed. These... Bill is basically a cleanup of the Ag Areas Act 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th Legislative Day April 23, 1985 that we passed a few years ago. Passed out of the Committee overwhelmingly and I would ask for your consideration, favorable consideration."

"The Gentleman moves... has moved for passage of House Bill 337, and on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall... Representative Cullerton, did you... Do you have your light on?"

"Yes."

"Okay. Mr. Electrician, would you check that because it's not flashing up here. Representative Cullerton, on House Bill 337."

"Yes, will the Gentleman yield for a question?"

"He will yield for a question."

"I have no further questions."

"Representative Ewing."

"Madam Speaker, I would like the record to show on this Bill and I would like to state for the record that the Bill is not the intent of this Bill to preclude the use of land within an agricultural area for placement of utility lines or easements, substations or related facilities which are required to meet the health, safety and energy needs of the people of the State of Illinois. And I read that into the record to make it absolutely clear that we are not in any way affecting the eminent domain powers of public utilities."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 337 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 106 voting 'aye', none voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House 35  28th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 23, 1985 Bill 480, Representative Klemm. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 480, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Klemm."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 480 attempts to allow some procedure for people wishing to change their mailing address on real estate tax Bills. Presently. there is no real law that allows a procedure for people to properly have their tax bills sent to a correct or a new address. Right now anybody can go to a county treasurers' office and if he or she knows the real estate property tax number they can have that tax bill mailed to any address they wish. They don't have to have any relationship to the property. They don't even have to know the owner. They don't have to even be involved whatsoever. If we carry that to an extreme case, this could result in the rightful owner of not receiving a tax bill, not paying their taxes inadvertently and losing the property in a tax sale. This establishes a simple procedure that the county treasurer or county collector would be able to at least know that those people who submit the request for changing the property tax mailing address for that bill at least has an interest in the property. And I'll be happy to answer any questions."

"The Gentleman has moved for passage of House Bill 480, and on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 480 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 106 voting 'aye', 3 voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 528, 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 34th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day Representative Flinn. Clerk, read the Bill." April 23, 1985

"House Bill 528, a Bill for an Act to Amend the Illinois Credit Union Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Flinn."

"Madam Speaker, thank you and Members of the House. House Bill 528 amends the Illinois Credit Union Act to the extent that it adds groups instead of limiting it to groups and the definition of 'common bond'. It will also... the Bill also puts the state chartered banks... I mean the state chartered credit unions in the same posture as the federally chartered credit unions and that they can make change by rule as opposed to law. Right now the state chartered credit unions must go... come back to the Legislature each time they make a change and the federal chartered credit unions do not. And I would ask for a favorable vote and try to answer any questions if there are any. I know of no opposition."

"The Gentleman has moved for passage of House Bill 528, and on that question is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 528 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 105 voting 'aye', 1 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 555, Representative Woodyard, Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 555, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Agricultural Fair Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Woodyard."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 555 is the result of several meeting that 37  28th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 23, 1985 transpired starting last November with the Illinois County Pair Association in an attempt to give the county fairs in the State of Illinois some relief from the financial problems that they have had. The Bill does, basically, three things. We have changed the formula and the method of reimbursement to the county fairs up to 66 and two-thirds percent of what ve call an authorized base predicated on the amount of agricultural premiums that they have paid. The second thing that this Bill does is to increase the amount of capital money reimbursed to the county fairs where they improve whether it be horse barns, race tracks or so on. The third thing the Bill does is to allow those ten large fair and expos nore flexibility in the use of their reimbursements. As of right now, their particular reimbursement only allows them to use their Boney for capital projects and we are saying within this Bill that they would be able to use that reimbursement for things other than capital improvement and certainly the... for agricultural premium funds. There will be absolutely no appropriation in conjunction with this Bill. The Bil1 actually would not trigger into effect until Fiscal 1987. That's basically what the Bill does. I would be glad to answer any questions on it."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 555, and on that question, the Gentleman from Madison, Representative McPike."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Is this Bill On Short Debate?"

"Yes, it is."

"I would request that it be removed from Short Debate."

"The Gentleman is joined by the appropriate number to remove this Bill from the Order of Short Debate, It is, therefore, on Third Reading, regular debate. 38  28th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 23, 1985 Proceed, Representative McPike."

"Will the Gentleman yield?"

"The Gentleman will yield for a question."

"How does money get into the Agricultural Premium Fund?"

"I'm sorry, what?"

"How do we fund the Agricultural Premium Fund?"

"The Agricultural Premium Fund is funded by parimutuel betting in this state and the county fairs were the first people that were funded out of the Ag Premium Fund in 1927."

"Okay, so that the money goes into the Ag Premium Fund comes from horse racing, and out of the Ag Premium Fund, what do we pay? What do we pay for from the Agricultural Premium Fund?"

"Into county fairs?"

"County fairs, what else?"

"We pay for... now, I'm guessing, Representative, and I'm not sure, but I think we pay for some veterans' scholarships. I know we pay for some capital operating costs in McCormick Place... several funds."

"McCormick Place, yes. And civic centers."

"And civic centers."

"And what is the cost of this Bill in FY '87?"

"Approximately 1.2 million dollars."

"Thank you. Madam Speaker, to the Bill."

"Proceed."

"There... really, the question before the General Assembly, for each and every one of your districts, is how do you want to spend the money that we skim from horse racing around the state? How do we want to spend this money? Last year we increased the amount of money to civic centers. We have authorized about ten new civic centers. There is probably another ten Bills in this year to 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th Legislative Day April 23, 1985 authorize new civic centers. Those civic centers, the new civic centers are funded from the Agricultural Premium Fund, and we have a seventy-five million dollar debt limit so that as those bonds are paid off, we are allowed to float more bonds to pay for new civic centers. We pay of approximately four million dollars in bonds every year. We have refused to raise that debt limit from 75 million to 80 to 90 or to 100 because we simply can't pay for those bonds so we have frozen the debt limit at 75 million dollars. There are a lot of Members in this General Assembly that have pet projects in their districts to build new civic centers. Those civic centers will not be built if we are going to spend the money on county fairs. There are a lot of people from Chicago that are anxious to pay off McCormick Place. That would be jeopardized if we spend more and more money for county fairs. There are some people that think that the excess that goes into the Agricultural Premium Fund should be returned to the General Fund so that we can fund education, mental health and everything else we provide for in this state. So this is a matter of priorities. This does not fit with my priorities. I don't think that we should spend more and more money for county fairs. I don't think we can afford a million dollars for country fairs for operating costs. We already take most of the money that we skim from horse racing, most of the money that we skim from horse racing in Cook County and in Madison County and we give that to all the county fairs all over the state. I think it's about time that we realigned our priorities and stop skimming all this money simply to spend on county fairs, start spending it for some civic centers, for education and mental health and the other proper functions of state government and not continue to bear the burden that should be borne by local 40  28th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE counties. So I would oppose this Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Bullock." April 23, 1985

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will Representative Woodyard yield for a question?"

"He will yield for a question."

"Representative Woodyard, when this Bill was in Committee, who testified in support of it?"

"Representative, I don't recall specifically, but this Bill is supported by certainly the Illinois County Fair Association, Department of Agriculture and, quite frankly, an awful lot of county fair board members all over the state."

"And it's... you are representing to the Body that the Department of Agriculture now supports the Bill?"

"Yes."

"Perhaps our staff analysis is incorrect. It indicates that the Department is neutral, but I'm sure Representative Ropp has some influence in that Department. Madam Speaker, and Members of the Assembly, first of all, I'm chagrined as to how this Bill could come out of the Agriculture Committee and be placed on Short Debate when it has such a devastating effect on exposition centers across the state, as the Majority Leader had indicated. I'm also chagrined that at a time when we are talking about the Build Illinois Program and the Governor has set up a horse racing task force to talk about a dying industry, we now have a Amendment... amended Bill before us which is a subsidy for county fairs over and beyond what they are presently receiving. I'm sure those of you who are from major metropolitan areas and who last Session fought to make certain that your local civic centers, whether they be in Rosemont or McCormick Place or Rockford or Springfield, 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day April 23, 1985 that you are going to take a close look at House Bill 555 and make your decision based on what is best for those civic centers in your home districts or in the districts adjacent to you. I respect Representative Woodyard for trying to represent his constituents and on this particular issue, I'm going to represent my constituents, and on this particular issue, we are in total disagreement. And I would urge those of you to look closely at the Bill and vote 'no' on House Bill 585 (sic - House Bill 555) as amended because it does a disservice to civic centers across the state."

"The Lady from Sangamon, Representative Oblinger."

"Madam Speaker and Members of the General Assembly, as I recall last year eight million dollars went up to the Chicago area for planning on the... 1992 fair. There are a lot of us downstate here who are not going to be able to go to that fair every day or every time we turn around because we are going to have a lot of costs in addition to the admission charges. We go to our local county fairs and this is our option and that is where we want our money to go. If you can give eight million to a world's fair that we are not going to attend, I think you can give eight million to us downstate to attend our own fairs. There are some people who don't understand that we all aren't going to flock to metropolitan areas, and in answer to those people who have just recently spoken, I have a civic center in my district just as well as the rest of you, but I also have a county fair. We have been supporting our civic center for a long, long time. I think it's time that we looked to the rural communities for them to have some of the things they need. I would urge a 'yes' vote on this and I think most of you can understand that when you 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day April 23, 1985 realize that our county fairs is to us what the world's fair is to you people in the metropolitan area."

"The Gentleman from McLean, Representative Ropp: Ropp." "Thank you, Mr... Madam Speaker and Members of the House. I think it's very ironic that we talk about a lot of civic centers in the State of Illinois, when, in fact, we want to save money and spend on civic centers when there hasn't been a single one of them that has stayed out of the red. So I think it's quite interesting how we are very much concerned about that. Let's point the finger to the thing that we are really attempting to do here in terms of spending dollars and making some priority assessments. You know, we spend a lot of money on social programs throughout the... part of our state, a lot of 4-H fairs, FFA fairs, county fairs are training grounds for young people, young people who, in fact, are busy with their hands creating projects, growing livestock, developing new kinds of crafts and so forth. And I can assure you that we spend very little money for these people. These are the kinds of people who, frankly, will not need money in their later years because they have been involved in doing something illegal, corrupt or indecent. These are good, honest young people. These are the kinds of people that we ought to be spending dollars for. If the small amount of money that we spend for these kinds of programs in our county fairs throughout the State of Illinois in comparison to what we spend in trying to prevent gang crime in other portions of the state... It's also an economic development for many of our counties. A lot of small towns have county fairs. It creates a center for a lot of activities both rural and urban. And I urge you to support this Bill because of the contributions that it makes to keeping people together and 43  28th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 23, 1985 keeping young people off of the streets."

"The Gentleman from Jefferson, Representative Hicks."

"Yes, thank you, Madam Speaker. Could I have a question of the Sponsor, please?"

"The Gentleman will yield for a question."

"Yes, Representative Woodyard, how many county fairs are there that this Bill affects in the State of Illinois?"

"Well, in answer to that, I really haven't counted those. I want to think in the back of my mind maybe 65, 67 county fairs..."

"Well, the analysis I have says it's 92 with the possibility of two additional ones down the road. You're actually talking about appropriation of a little over a million dollars, is that correct, in year '87?"

"In 1987, yes. In fiscal 1987."

"So you're talking about spreading a million dollars over 84 counties. Is that correct?"

"That's correct."

"So I... I would take it then that everybody's getting a little piece of that million dollars and that you're also looking at an appropriation two years down the road. You're not trying to rush something through. Is that correct?"

"That's absolutely correct..."

"Madam Speaker..."

"If a county fair wishes to put on the same size fair that they have put on in the past, they will get a little more money. If they want to reduce the size of their county fair, they'll get less money."

"Madam Speaker, to the Bill."

"Proceed."

"House Bill 555, as I understand it to be, puts my county, 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day April 23, 1985 Jefferson County, in the biggest losing position of any county fair in the state. But izregardless of that, this Bill is talking about trying to help county fairs over the entire State of Illinois. We're talking about 84 counties in this state that are going to benefit from this Bill. And I certainly think that a million dollars appropriation down the road, two years down the road, something that's not being rushed through this House, like many other things are, is certainly something that we all ought to all be in support of. And I would ask that a positive vote is the right vote on this Bill. Thank you."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Huff."

"Yes, Madam Speaker, I move the previous question."

"There's no need for that Representative Huff. Representative Woodyard is recognized to close."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I think it's probably well that this Bill was removed from Short Debate since there seems to be a lot of questions about the Bill. Quite frankly, some of the issues raised on the Bill have nothing... whatsoever to do with the Bill itself. If there is a concern about civic centers, there should not be. There absolutely should not be. Do you realize that just a year ago we transferred out of the parimutuel betting Ag Premium Fund 30 to 35 million dollars back into General Revenue Fund? Now don't tell me you've got trouble with civic centers because that money was in the Ag Premium Fund and it was lapsed back into the General Revenue Fund. As I mentioned, there will absolutely be no appropriation on this Bill this year. It's an attempt to try to address a very, very serious situation all over the State of Illinois in trying to get our county fairs a little more money. Do you realize how long it's been since they've had any kind of increase? 1980. Well, you tell me how many other 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day April 23, 1985 entities of reimbursement back into your local areas has been five to six years since they've had any kind of increase. They didn't come in here and ask us in bad budget years for increases, but they have asked us for this small consideration at this particular time. And I certainly urge your support for this Bill."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 555 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 63 voting 'aye', 47 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. Representative Bullock, for what reason do you rise? The Gentleman asks for a verification of the Affirmative Roll Call. Representative Woodyard asks for a Poll of the Absentees."

"Poll of the Absentees. Barger. Harris. Keane. Van Duyne. White. Wolf and Wyvetter Younge."

"Representative Turner, for what reason do you rise? Representative Soliz, for what reason do you rise?"

"I'd like to switch my vote from..."

"The Gentleman wishes to change his vote from 'aye' to 'no'. Representative Barger."

"I would like to vote 'yes', please."

"The Gentleman asks to be recorded as voting 'aye'. Representative Curran asks to be voted 'aye'. We, therefore, have 64 voting 'aye'. Proceed with the Poll of the Affirmative, Mr. Clerk."

"Poll of the Affirmative. Barger. Brunsvold. Christensen. Churchill. Countryman. Cowlishaw. Curran. Daniels. Davis. DeJaegher. Deuchler. Ewing. Virginia Frederick. Dwight Friedrich. Giorgi. Goforth. Hallock. Hannig. Hartke. Hastert. Hawkinson. Hensel. Hicks. Hoffman. Homer. Johnson. Klemm. Koehler. Kubik. 46  28th Legislative Day STATE OP ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 23, 1985 Mautino. Mays. McAuliffe. McCracken. McMaster. Mulcahey. Oblinger. Olson. Pangle. Parcells. Bernard Pedersen. William Peterson."

"Excuse me, Mr. Clerk. Representative LeFlore asks leave to be verified."

"Yes."

"Do you have any objection? No. Representative Stern,"

"I would like to change my vote to 'no', please."

"Okay. Representative Stern asks leave to change her vote from 'aye' to 'no'. Proceed, Mr. Clerk."

"Continuing with a Poll of the Affirmative. Phelps. Piel. Pullen. Rea. Regan. Richmond. Ropp. Ryder. Saltsman. Satterthwaite. Slater. Stange. Stephens. Sutker. Tate. Tuerk. Vinson. Wait. Weaver. Williamson. Woodyard and Zwick."

"Representative Bullock, Representative Nash asks leave to be verified. Representative Nash, you're recorded as voting 'no', so it makes no difference. Representative Pedersen."

"I'd like leave to be verified."

"Representative Pedersen asks leave to be verified. Leave is granted. Do you have any questions of the Affirmative Roll Call, Representative Bullock?"

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Representative Tuerk."

"Representative Tuerk is in his chair."

"Representative Hoffman,"

"Representative Hoffman. Representative Hoffman. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Remove him."

"Hoffman. He's removed? Koehler."

"Representative Koehler is in the chamber. Representative Kirkland, for what reason do you rise?"

"...recorded?" 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day

"You're recorded as voting 'no'."

"Vote me 'aye', please."

April 23, 1985 "The Gentleman wishes to change his vote from 'no' to 'aye'."

"Representative Wait."

"Representative Wait. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Remove him."

"Harris."

"Representative Harris. The Gentleman is not in the chamber. Remove him... He's not voting. Excuse me."

"Johnson."

"Representative Johnson. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Representative Johnson. The Gentleman is not in the chamber. Remove him. But Representative Hoffman... Representative Johnson is in the chamber. Add him to the Roll Call, and Representative Hoffman has returned. Add him to the Roll Call."

"Olson."

"Representative Olson. Representative Olson is in the chamber."

"Berny Pedersen."

"Representative Pedersen asked leave to be verified."

"Okay. Peterson. Bill Peterson."

"Bill Peterson. Representative Peterson is in his chair."

"Tate."

"Representative Representative returned to Wait has returned the chamber, rather. Add him to the Roll Tate is in the chamber. to the Roll Call... Call,"

"Slater."

"Representative Slater is in the chamber." 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day April 23, 1985

"Piel."

"Representative Piel is in his chair."

"Regan."

"Representative Regan is in the chamber."

"No further questions."

"On this Roll Call, there are 68... 64 voting 'aye', 48 voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. The Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Ladies and Gentlemen, with leave of the Assembly, we will go back to... to do two Bills on Second Reading, on page seven on your Calendar. Hearing no objections, House Bill 702, Representative Kirkland. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 702, a Bill for an Act concerning working cash funds. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Kirkland, amends House Bill 702..."

"Representative Kirkland."

"Yes... Yes, again, I think we have the problem straightened out, and it was agreed in Committee I would amend this on Second Reading to take out the Chicago Sanitary District, Chicago School Board and the Chicago School Finance Authority."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 702. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to House Bill 702 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?" 49  28th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Clerk Leone: "No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 711, Representative Preston. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 711, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to teachers and employees of public schools. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Agreed Resolutions."

"House Resolution 248, Rea; 249, Currie - Madigan; 250, Bowman; 251, McNamara; 255, Hartke; and 256, Washington."

"Representative Giorgi on the Agreed Resolutions. Representative Giorgi on the Agreed Resolutions."

"Madam Speaker, 248, by Rea, wishes a happy birthday to Jasper Garrison, 105th. 249, by Currie - Madigan, congratulates Mount Carmel High School. 250, by Bowman, honors Mary Chase Pell. 251, by McNamara, commends a 40th wedding anniversary. 255, by Hartke, tells about Teutopolis High School basketball team; and 256, by Washington..."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. Are there any... Okay, and a House Joint Resolution, which is agreed. Please, read it."

"House Joint Resolution 35, Washington."

"Representative Giorgi."

"Madam Speaker, House Joint 35 honors Pastor W.N. Daniel, and I move for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions." 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day April 23, 1985

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Representative O'Connell, you have filed a Motion to table House Bill 412. If you would do that now on the floor, that would be fine. The Gentleman moves to table House Bill 412 of which he is the chief Sponsor. Hearing no objections, the Bill is tabled. That's House Bill 412. Was there anyone else who wished to table any Bills? Is there anyone present who wishes to table Bills at this time? Representative Cullerton, for an announcement."

"Yes, thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. There was a Bill, House Bill 324, that was inadvertently left off the posting for the Judiciary II Committee for this Thursday. The Sponsor, Representative Young, he has witnesses coming down on the Bill. It's been cleared with Representative McCracken, so I would move that we waive the posting requirements for House Bill 324 for the Judiciary II Committee."

"The Gentleman has moved to waive the posting rules for House Bill 324. Hearing no objection, the posting rule is waived. Representative Flinn, for the purposes of an announcement."

"Madam Speaker, there will not be a Financial Institutions Committee today, but I would warn all the Members of the Financial Institutions to be prepared to stay for a long time next meeting because we're going to have a lot of Bills. And we'll have a Subcommittee meeting shortly after that meeting and probably one the following Friday. There will not be a meeting of Financial Institutions today."

"The Gentleman has announced that there will be a cancellation of the Financial Institutions meeting today. 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day April 23, 1985 Representative Younge, for what reason do you rise? Representative Wyvetter Younge."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. There will not be an Urban Redevelopment Committee meeting today. It will meet. next week."

"The Urban Redevelopment Committee meeting has been cancelled also. Representative Mulcahey, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to ask leave of the House to have the appropriate posting rule waived so that we may hear House Bill 1232, House Bill 1700 and House Bill 1909 tomorrow in the Elementary and Secondary Education Committee and the Subcommittee on Instructional Standards."

"Representative Mulcahey, read those Bill numbers again, please."

"1232, 1700 and 1909."

"The Gentleman has moved to waive the appropriate posting rules for House Bill 1232, House Bill 1700 and 1902, so that those Bills..."

"1909."

"1909, so that those Bills can be heard tomorrow. Hearing no objection, the posting rules are waived. Are there any further announcements? Hearing no further announcements, General Resolutions."

"House Resolution 254, sponsored by Representative Slater et al."

"Committee on Assignment. Death Resolutions."

"House Resolution 252, Hensel, in respect to the memory of Dr. William Perkins; and House Resolution 253, introduced by Representative Nash et al, in respect to the memory of Daniel Melas."

"Representative Cullerton moves the adoption of 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 28th Legislative Day April 23, 1985 the Death Resolutions. All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Resolutions are adopted. Representative Cullerton now moves to adjourn until 12 o'clock tomorrow. Hearing no objections, this House stands adjourned until 12 o'clock tomorrow, allowing two minutes Perfunctory Session for the Clerk."

Clark Leone: "Representative Christensen, Chairman from the Committee on... on Select on Aging, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken April 23, 1985, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'Do pass amended Short Debate Calendar' House Bills 301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 306 and 307. Being no further business, the House now stands adjourned till April 24th, 12 o'clock noon." 53  07/31/85 14:54 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX APRIL 23, 1985 PAGE 1 HB-0025 SECOND READING PAGE 6 HB-0033 SECOND READING PAGE 6 HB-0033 MOTION PAGE 7 HB-0050 SECOND READING PAGE 19 HB-0051 SECOND READING PAGE 19 HB-0053 SECOND READING PAGE 20 HB-0120 THIRD READING PAGE 28 HB-0181 SECOND READING PAGE 26 HB-0228 THIRD READING PAGE 30 HB-0241 HELD ON SECOND PAGE 34 HB-0241 RECALLED PAGE 31 HB-0294 SECOND READING PAGE 3 HB-0337 THIRD READING PAGE 34 HB-0375 SECOND READING PAGE 27 HB-0394 SECOND READING PAGE 5 HB-0408 SECOND READING PAGE 21 HB-0412 TABLED PAGE 51 HB-0480 THIRD READING PAGE 36 HB-0500 SECOND READING PAGE 21 HB-0521 SECOND READING PAGE 22 HB-0528 THIRD READING PAGE 37 HB-0555 THIRD READING PAGE 37 HB-0591 SECOND READING PAGE 22 HB-0593 SECOND READING PAGE 22 HB-0639 SECOND READING PAGE 26 HB-0696 SECOND READING PAGE 23 HB-0702 SECOND READING PAGE 23 HB-0702 SECOND READING PAGE 49 HB-0702 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 24 HB-0705 SECOND READING PAGE 5 HB-0711 SECOND READING PAGE 50 HB-0741 TABLED PAGE 27 HB-0751 SECOND READING PAGE 25 HB-0802 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-1165 SECOND READING PAGE 2 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER - REPRESENTATIVE BRESLIN PAGE 1 PRAYER - REVEREND DUANE MEVIS PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 2 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 2 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 50 GENERAL RESOLUTIONS PAGE 52 DEATH RESOLUTIONS PAGE 52 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 53 PERFUNCTORY SESSION PAGE 53 COMMITTEE REPORT PAGE 53 PERFUNCTORY SESSION - ADJOURNMENT PAGE 53  REQ STORE PRINT DOCUMENT NAME OPER GROUP COMMAND DATE T042385 31 0 PJ 04/29/85 D COPY WIDTH DEPTH ERROR 1 66 78