Illinois House Floor Debate — May 29, 1985

"The House will be in order. The Members will be in their chairs. We will be led in prayer today by Reverend Claude S. Wyatt, Pastor of the Vernon Park Church of God in Chicago. Will the guests in the gallery please rise for the invocation? Reverend Wyatt."

"Oh mighty God, Thou hast been our help. In ages passed, Thou hast been our joy. Thou hast been with us and will be with us in ages to come. We thank You for this privilege to share together today as we stand in your august presence. We thank You for these men and women in offices of the state who are here today to take care of business. We ask for them, Your divine guidance. We pray our Father that you would give to them wisdom, understanding, compassion. That as they legislate and as they meet, they will be mindful of those who are hungry. They will be mindful of those who are unemployed. They will be mindful of those who are feeble, weak and sick. They will be mindful of those who are void of understanding and need enlightenment. We pray our Father that you would be mindful of each of them oh God. So, bless the families and the homes that are represented here today. Those who are sick, and those who are despondent, we pray that Your spirit will abide richly. We ask our Father that each person here today would be well aware of the sacred trust Thou has given unto each of them, and by their wisdom and by their understanding, they will fulfill that trust. So, bless and keep each of them and their families for we ask it in the name of our Lord. Amen."

"We will be led in the Pledge of Allegiance today by Representative Ropp."

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

"We're not going to take the Roll Call for attendance just yet."

"Representative McPike in the Chair."

"Senate Bills First Reading."

"Senate Bill #12, Pangle, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 36, McAuliffe Davis, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 39, Wyvetter Younge, a Bill for an Act creating the East St. Louis Development Authority. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 42, Curran Parcells Mautino Oblinger, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 48, Van Duyne, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to the posting and publication of certain notices in school districts. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 62, Bowman, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to alzheimer's disease research. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 77, Ewing, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 91, John Dunn, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the support and maintenance. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 99, Hoffman Turner, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unified Code of Corrections. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 109, Van Duyne, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relation to counties. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 134, Matijevich, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Board of Higher Education. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 145, Levin... excuse me, Leverenz Bowman, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the Department of Commerce 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 and Community Affairs. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 167, Leverenz, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 174, Bowman, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Department of Children and Family Services. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 175, Bowman, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Department of Public Aid. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 193, Anthony Young, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act creating the Department of Children and Family Services. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 200, Anthony Young, a Bill for an Act to provide for the assistant director of apprenticeship and training for programs and systems of apprenticeship and other on the job training to establish a State Apprenticeship and Training Council and to provide for standards of apprenticeship. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 227, Anthony Young, a Bill for an Act to amend the Metropolitan Fair and Exhibition Authority. First Reading of the Bill."

"If the Chair could have your attention. If the Chair could have your attention for a minute. It is our intent to... to adjourn immediately for Committees. We have an abbreviated schedule for Committees from 2:15 until 4:15. We plan to go into... into Session on time at 4:15, and we will complete the appropriations Bills on the Calendar this evening. We think we can do so in two hours. We plan to come in tomorrow for an abbreviated Session after Committee meetings, and to get out of here in a very short time tomorrow. So, if everyone shows up at 4:15 on time, we're confident that we can move all these Bills in a couple of hours. And you can do whatever you have to do this evening. So, we would encourage everyone to be back here at 4:15. We will take an Attendance Roll 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day Call at 4:15. Calendar May 29, 1985 There are about 100 Senate Bills on the that have not... that do not have House Sponsors. I would ask you to come up before you leave the floor and signup for these Senate Bills. Are there any announcements? Representative Richmond."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I want to announce that the House Ag Committee scheduled for this afternoon will be cancelled until next week. Thank you."

"And Representative Flinn."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would... like to announce that the Financial Institutions Committee is cancelled for this afternoon. There's only one Bill in there, mine, and I'm not about to call the Committee Members together to listen to one of my Bills. So, it's cancelled."

"Any further announcements? That's Agriculture and Financial Institutions have been cancelled. Any further announcements? There being none, Representative Greiman moves, allowing the Clerk perfunctory time for reading Senate Bills First Reading, that the House stands in recess until the hour of 4:15. In favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The House stands in recess."

"Continuing Senate Bills First Reading. Senate Bill 292... Senate Bill 292, Rea, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 293, Oblinger, a Bill for an Act to amend the Funeral Directors and Embalmers Licensing Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 325, Anthony Young, a Bill for an Act concerning Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 489, Currie - Levin, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 513, Parcells, a 4  48th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1985 Bill for an Act in relation to the filing date for returns for certain state taxes. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 522, Homer, a Bill for an Act to amend an. Act to create the offense of first degree murder and second degree murder. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 567, Richmond, a Bill for an Act to amend Beef Market Development Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 644, Flowers, a Bill for an Act to amend the Crime Victims Compensation Act. Ac First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 651, Parcells, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 670, LeFlore, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to permit employees to review personnel records. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 690, Parcells, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Income Tax Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 729, Olson, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to certain state regulatory agencies. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 986, Dunn, a Bill for an Act to amend the Probate Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1031, Hensel, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1105, Van Duyne, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1131, Parcells, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1174, Anthony Young, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1215, Anthony Young, a Bill for an Act to amend the School... Illinois School Student Record Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1244, Homer - McCracken - Cullerton, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the offense involving the operation of vehicles while under the influence of alcohol or other drug. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 1352, Anthony Young, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1360, Ronan, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1366, Parcells, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning purchase contracts. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1397, Anthony Young, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1414, Tuerk, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to create the Historic Preservation Agency. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1422, Homer, a Bill for an Act governing the apportionment of utility bills among residential tenants and landlords. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1434, Ronan, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Banking Act. First Reading of the Bill. Further Senate Bill introductions. Senate Bill 1267, Hoffman, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1273, Hoffman, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to certain cigarette taxes. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1279, Hoffman, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1279, Hoffman, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Library Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill... Senate Bill 32, McGann, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 814, Stephens, a Bill for an Act to amend the Fish Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 988, Stephens, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1350, Bullock, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to savings and loan associations. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1032, Richmond, a Bill for an Act to provide legal assistance to Illinois farmers. 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day First Reading of the Bill. May 29, 1995 Senate Bill 1211, McGann, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1192, Bullock, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to currency exchanges. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1367, Davis, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to state finance. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1379, Davis, a Bill for an Act to amend the Health Finance Reform Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1428, Davis, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 103, Davis, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning hospital costs. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 502, Davis, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Aeronautics Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 938, Bullock, a Bill for an Act to amend the Nursing Home Care Reform Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 658, Currie, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 173, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making certain appropriations. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 169, Bullock, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the funding of certain metropolitan exhibitions civic center authorities. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 14, Bullock, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to Grant Park. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1358, Keane, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 734, Vinson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 660, Bullock, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. First Reading of the Bill. Further introductions. Senate Bill 780, Giorgi, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relation to counties. First Reading of the Bill. No 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 further introductions. The House now stands in recess until 4:15 p.m." Speaker: McPike: "The House will come to order. Roll Call for attendance. 112 Members answering a Roll Call, a quorum is present. Representative Piel."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, would the record show Representative Klemm is excused today, please?"

"Yes. Representative Matijevich."

"Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen, let the record show Jim DeLeo and Bill Laurino excused today."

"Thank you. Messages from the Senate."

"Message from the Senate by Mr. Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has concurred with the House in adoption of the following Joint Resolution, together with Senate Amendment #1 passed by the Senate as amended May 29, 1985. Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Message from the Senate by Mr. Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representatives the Senate has adopted the following Senate Joint Resolutions. The adoption of which I'm instructed to ask concurrence of the House of Representatives, to wit; Senate Joint Resolutions #16, 23, 27 and 31, adopted by the Senate May 29, 1985. Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Message from the Senate by Mr. Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representatives the Senate has passed Bills of the following title, passage of which I am instructed to ask concurrence of the House of Representatives, to wit; Senate Bills #306, 342, 356, 357, 358, 359, 360, 361, 362, 363, 364, 383, 387, 403, 428, 449, 450, 451, 452, 453, 454, 455, 456, 457, 458, 459, 460, 461, 462, 463, 464, 465, 466, 467, 468, 469, 470, 471, 472, 473, 474, 475, 476, 477, 478, 480,  48th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1985 552, 695, 863, 1033, 226 and 308, passed by the Senate Nay 29, 1985. Kenneth Wright, Secretary."

"Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, we have with us a former Member. We have with us a former Member that would like to address the Body. Currently, the senior United States Senator from Illinois, Senator Alan Dixon."

"Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, it's a great privilege and an honor and a pleasure to come back and visit with you. I spent some of the happiest days of my life between 1950 and 1962 serving in this place, and I think many of you here know that a good large number of our Illinois Congressional Delegation Members are former Members of this House. Both of our United States Senators and a substantial number of our House Members served in the Illinois General Assembly. It may surprise you to know that you never get away from the night Sessions. We have then all the time in Washington. We spent all last week working until past midnight on the DOD, the Department of Defense Authorization Bill. Bi So, I wish you well in what you do here. I hope you all know and many of you do come to visit me from time to time on both sides of the aisle. I hope you all know that my office door is always open. I'm very interested in working with you at all times, and I thank you for your friendship and our good relations over the years. God bless you all. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Representative Matijevich."

"Speaker, I want to tell my good friend, Alan, it's not very often that a U.S. Senator stops into my home town. You're going to be there tomorrow to help save the Great Lakes Naval Training Center. I appreciate it. Please tell all my friends that your good friend John said hello to all of them. And after your stop tomorrow, I think 9  48th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1985 you'll get every vote in town. And I..."

"John, I thank you for saying that. I will be in your town tomorrow. We're very much concerned about saving Great Lakes. And may I say to all Members on both sides of the aisle in this place that Great Lakes vas established under President Taft in 1911. I was discharged from there in 1946. They graduated 35,000 students from that place last year, and have a payroll of $200 million. And... All Illinois can illafford to have Great Lakes closed. you, John."

Thank Natijevich: "Amen, and that wasn't rehearsed at all."

"Representative Vinson."

"Before my good friend, Senator Dixon, my favorite Democrat Senator gets away, I want him to come back up to the podium and tell us about that tank gun, or whatever it was that he keeps speaking on."

"Representative Van Duyne."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to revive our memories as to my dissertation on House Bill 1687. I think it was about 5:00 o'clock last Friday afternoon when I presented the Bill, and luck... it was lucky enough to have it passed. But in the course of that dissertation, Representative Ewing, asked me some questions and the staff person representing the Governor's Office alledgedly went down to his desk and told him that the Governor had no support for my Bill. Now, in my dissertation I said that the Governor hadn't placed it in his budget, but that he had made public statements to the affect that he did support that. And I've taken the liberty to capture... recapture this from our local paper, The Joliet Herald News, The Copley_ Press, and I've highlighted the area Representative Ewing in which the Governor says, 'the port authorities ($20 million funding Bill) to allow the port 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 34th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 authorities to borrow money for state funds to expand their waterway shipping facilities has been sent to the House floor):'. The Governor said, 'I want to see Illinois move foward in diversity of this transportation. The waterway certainly is an important component. Our Illinois inland waterways carry more traffic than the Rhine River in Germany. It's one of the things I talk about whenever I travel abroad.' And I just wanted to remind you."

"Representative Van Duyne, thank you very much. A number of people had questioned the Chair on that. Representative Ewing."

"Mr. Speaker, have we changed the rules in regard to passing out this type of scurrilous material? I mean I remember when recently Representative..."

"No. Representative Ewing, no we haven't, and if you want to pass that out, you'll have to get permission from the Chair."

"No, I don't. It was on my desk, and I just feel so sorry for Representative Vinson, because he was chastised for passing out some legitimate material."

"We have another former Member with us today on the Republican side of the aisle, Representative John Birkinbine. Page 2 of the Calendar, House Bills Second Reading, appears House Bill 24, Representative Hallock. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 24, a Bill for an Act to make an appropriation of the Board of Regents of Regency Universities. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Brookins."

"Representative Brookins, Amendment #1." 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985

"Yes.. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to withdraw Amendment..."

"The Gentleman withdraws Amendment #1. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Brookins - Braun."

"Representative Brookins."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies of the Gentlemen... of the Assembly, I'm asking for $1 million to put in a engineer program at Chicago State College."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2. And on that, the Gentleman from Winnebago, Representative Hallock."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, this Amendment is not my first choice amongst Amendments, but I'll be happy to take it."

"Further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amend... Representative Hastert, the Gentleman from Kendall."

"Would the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates he will."

"This is an Amendment to do... to put on a School of Engineering at Chicago State. What's the cost of that Amendment?"

"Representative Brookins. Representative Brookins. Proceed."

"Hello. One million dollars."

"One million dollars."

"That's correct."

"Is that GRF funds?"

"Yes, it is."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, to the Bill."

"Proceed."

"To the Amendment. You know, we're starting out here 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day right away..." May 29, 1985

"Mr. Clerk, put the Bill number on the board."

"We have a million dollars here, and if you look, start going down through the Amendments, we'll have a million dollars in a lot of different places. We have a budget that we passed out of this House, and of course, the other half of the budget at this time is in the Senate. But I think the Members in this House better take a look at the analysis that they have in front of them, because if you start adding up the expenditures, you start adding up what we pretend or portray to spend for education, if you start adding up the accruals that ve have in pensions, the dollars don't add up. And we can start right here, right now, voting for this Bill and putting on a million dollars in General Revenue Funds above an appropriation, the level that... that maybe those dollars are there, and maybe they're not, but we have to start looking. And you'll here this theme this afternoon over and over again. If you're going to vote for these dollars, then be... be prepared to find a revenue source, a tax if you may, to support those dollars. I think it might be well aware that the Members of this House listen to what this debate was about, because we're dealing in dollars and cents. Dollars and cents that eventually, if you spend it, you're going to have to ante it up. That's the message. That's what you're going to have to fess up to, and you better be aware of it when you vote for this Amendment."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Bowman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I think the last speaker made some very good points, and I would echo them. I would say, however, my position on... on this legislation is that I'm prepared to support the Amendment. Although, I think the Bill with or 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 without the Amendment still has problems, and I would not be prepared to support the Bill in either form. But I think what's fair is fair. If we're going to do this for Northern Illinois, we ought to be prepared to do it for Chicago State. And so, I will support the Amendment. But I would like to ask for a record Roll Call on the Amendment and... and of course, the Bill."

"The Lady from Marshall, Representative Koehler."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in opposition to this Amendment. I think it is important to point out that we are voting on creating yet another law school in the State of Illinois. Most individuals in the State of Illinois would say we already have enough law schools, and many more lawyers than we actually... excuse me... engineering school. That we have enough engineers here. Engineering schools here in the State of Illinois, as well as, enough engineers to take care of the problems that we now have. Why many of the engineering firms are branching out, because they have more engineers than they... than they... than they have jobs for them. So, we definitely do not need to create another engineering school in Illinois. And in addition to the one that is already planned for Nothern, they are trying to create another one in the City of Chicago. And the current engineering schools are opposed to this. We have enough engineering graduates to take care of the work that we now have in Illinois, and I would oppose this particular Amendment. And I believe Representative Bowman had asked for a Roll Call, but if he did not, I would like to request a Roll Call."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Keane."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill and the substantive Bill that went with it is going to deal with two sets... 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 23, 1985 two types of engineering. It's not a full engineering school. It's only on robotics and on computer engineering, and I think it's a good Amendment, and I ask for your support."

"The... Representative Hallock, for what reason do you rise?"

"I'd ask leave to take this Bill out of the record at this time."

"The Gentleman asks the Bill be taken out of the record. House Bill 143, Representative Currie. Representative Currie here? Read the Bill."

"House Bill 143, a Bill for an Act making appropriations of the State Comptroller. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Representative Vitek, for what reason do you rise?"

"Point of personal privilege, Mr. Speaker."

"State your point."

"I'd have a little quiet all the Members."

"Members give the Gentleman your attention, please."

"Mr. Speaker, earlier in the day you announced that we were going to recess til 4:15. Upon coming back with the admonishment that if we kept ourselves to a limit on Amendments and that we could finish in 2 hours. The first Bill... look at how long we've been going, over a half hour, and we take it out of the record. We'll be here until tomorrow night at midnight if you keep fooling around like this with all these Amendments. So, on a point of personal privilege, keep your arguments soft and sweet. You'll get your little piece of pie when it comes through. Don't worry about it."

"The Gentleman's point is well taken. It is the 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 Chair's intention to call all appropriations Bills this evening, and we can finish in a short time, or we can be here all night. At... at the Members beckoning. Representative Currie. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments to this Bill?"

"Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Currie - Madigan."

"Representative Currie, Amendment #2."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. The Amendment is a... provides that this Bill will be an appropriate companion Bill to House Bill 142, which came out of this chamber last week. It's a way of funding both the proposal to provide direct state grants to public radio stations, and adds money for the statute already on the books that provides the same amount of help for public television stations. I would appreciate your support for the Amendment. I'm happy to answer any questions."

"The Lady has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I would ask at this point that the Sponsor take the Bill out of the record at this point, and that we move to just moving those appropriation Bills for which Amendments are not on file, and move those to Third. I think that might be more expeditious for a few minutes."

"Representative Currie, you've heard the Gentleman's request. Whatever you desire. Representative Currie."

"Could we wait... could we wait just a moment while the 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 Chairman of the Appropriations Committee discusses this issue with the Minority Representative."

"Representative Currie, the Chair would suggest you take this out of the record. If the Members will indulge the Chair, we would call those Bills that do not have Amendments, and move them to Third and pass them out at this time. So, we will proceed with Bills that do not have Amendments filed. House Bill 219, a Representative Frederick. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 219, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the State Board of Education. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 219, Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. Read the... it's been read a Third time. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 219, a Bill for an Act making appropriation to the State Board of Education. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Frederick on the Bill."

"Yes. Okay? Alright. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Bill 219 appropriates 1,097,118 dollars or as much as may be necessary to the State Board of Education for distribution to Warren Township High School as amended by the 84th General Assembly for expenses incurred by that school district for rental transportation, rennovation, and other expenses associated with temporary relocation and housing as a result of a fire. I ask for your affirmative vote."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of House Bill 219, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Hoffman." 17  48th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1985

"Thank you very much. Will the Sponsor yield to an inquiry, please?"

"She will."

"Thank you. The... would you give me the amount again, Representative?"

"Yes, it's a 1,097,118 dollars."

"And this covers exactly what again?"

"It will cover expenses related to relocating a total student body into another facility."

"What does that mean?"

"That means providing bus service for this student body of about 1,600 students. It provides for additional teachers because the facility that has been rented is too small to accommodate the student body entirely, and so it's a double shift situation, which means the hiring of additional teachers. Also, provides for the rental of the school facility."

"And this... this only is being rented from the Lake Forest?"

"Yes."

"... School District."

"Yes."

"How long does this cover... how long do you anticipate this to take? Is this the first of your request for this kind of money?"

"It's my understanding, Sir, it is the only request, and it covers a period of 18 months to 2 years."

"In other words you don't anticipate this total amount of money being expended during this fiscal year?"

"No, I do not."

"Is it... am I correct in the budgetary process that you... this will require additional legislation during the next fiscal year?" 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day

"I do not expect that it will. appropriation, no. I do not." May 29, 1985

As far as extra Hoffman: "You will be unable to expend this money during this fiscal year, as I understand your comment."

"Oh, okay. Okay. It will be to repay the school district for expenses that have been incurred since January I of this year, and it's probably a pay back situation."

"Alright. So, then it is... it is not prospective in the sense in the next fiscal year, but it is retrospective?"

"Excuse me. I think I should take the Bill out of the record."

"Representative Frederick has taken this Bill out of the record. The next Bill is House Bill 342, Representative Soliz. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 342, a Bill for an Act making appropriation of Capital Development Board. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 342. Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 342, a Bill for an Act making appropriation of the Capital Development Board. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Soliz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a Bill which would appropriate $20 million for the construction of a high tech institution of higher learning in the 'Peilson' Little Village Community for the benefit of the entire City of Chicago and the State of Illinois. What this Bill would do is actually provide for the creation of a high tech center in an area where 19  48th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1985 there... there are no institutions of higher learning whatsoever. There's no community colleges in that area. There's no other institutions that would provide this high tech training for students in that particular area of the city. At the present time, we're very close in proximity to the University of Illinois, also to the medical complexes in the... close to the University of Illinois. This would be a feeding ground of whereby we could train students in high tech areas, which would be a benefit I believe to the entire State of Illinois, and I move for adoption of this appropriations Bill."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 342, is there any discussion? There being none, the... Representative Vinson on the Bill."

"Yes, I'm sorry, I was distracted. I wonder if the Gentleman would yield for a question?"

"He will."

"Representative, what is the purpose of this appropriation?"

"The appropriation would provide for the building or the construction of a high tech center in... at 23 and Wels... Western in the 'Peilson' Little Village Communities in near west side of Chicago."

"And is that appropriation from Capital Development Funds?"

"That's correct."

"To the Bill, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Assembly. I would urge a 'no' vote on this particular Bill. The efforts that we are making in the community college area are important, and I believe every Member recognizes that. But I believe every Member also recognizes the reality of the importance of our bond rating in Illinois. We have to protect that bond rating. It 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 would be highly inappropriate in a year where we're receiving extraordinary revenues to spend those revenues in a long term obligation, as Capital Funds must be spent. Which in the long run could threaten our bond rating. This is such a Bill. And it is on the basis of Bills such as this that our determination to protect our bond rating will be based. If we cannot say no to this kind of Bill, then we're never going to be able to protect that bond rating. I would urge a 'no' vote on the Gentleman's Bill."

"The Gentleman from Lake, Representative Matijevich."

"Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I... I don't think we ought to take a lot of time on appropriation Bills. They usually zip through here, but I wanted to alert the Members on this side of the aisle that in this year which we call, 'Build Illinois', and this is Speaker Madigan's Bill, that it is very important to have this type of Bill that creates a... a job training center. There are over 650,000 people in this... State of Illinois that will never be able to work unless they're trained. You cannot provide jobs if you don't provide the training for people to have the appropriate skills. This goes hand in glove with the 'Build Illinois', and I would urge all the Members on this side of the aisle to vote for this Bill."

"The Gentleman from Hastert... I'm sorry, from Kendall, Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative, was this... is this part of 'Build Illinois'? Was this Amendment offered to 'Build Illinois'?"

"My understanding is that part of the package will include 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 at least 3 other high tech centers, however, it wasn't included in this particular appropriations Bill. But in the package that was passed in the 'Build Illinois' proposal I think did include the provision for construction of 3 other high tech centers."

"So, you say that there's 3 other high tech centers in this area. Is this all part of a package?"

"No, not in this area. But I'm saying that the 'Build Illinois' package did include 3 other high tech centers."

"And then you tried to put this in the 'Build Illinois', and it didn't... what happened?"

"No, this Bill was actually introduced as you can see by the number very early in the Session, and it was not part of the 'Build Illinois' dialogue at the time."

"So, do you think this compliments or it takes away the appropriateness of those 3 other centers?"

"In my estimation, this would actually compliment because it would be essentially part of the whole 'Build Illinois' concept of creating for... and this instance not really job creation, but job training. We are faced with a situation in the City of Chicago alone where there are 650,000 unemployed workers and many of them can't find jobs because they're not adequately trained. This center would provide for the training of those individuals in areas where they can find jobs in the high tech areas."

"The $20 million then is free and independent really of the 'Build Illinois' Program, and I hate to... maybe you can't answer this but the 3 other high tech institutions that are created in 'Build Illinois' are those in say the Chicago area."

"My understanding is that that they are."

"So..."

"The only reason... the reason that this was not included 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day in that package May 29, 1985 is that this Bill was... was introduced early in the Session."

"So, this is the fourth high tech thing that's outside of the 'Build Illinois'... Mr. Speaker, to the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, I think we have a clear situation here that we've already in the 'Build Illinois' Program have built in 3 high tech centers in the State of Illinois. You got $20 million coming out of the CDB Capital Development Fund, which is really the bonding. So, instead of building Illinois, we're going to end up bonding Illinois on this issue, and I think would... should be a negative vote."

"The Gentleman from Cook to close, Representative Soliz."

"I would just ask for a favorable vote, Mr. Speaker."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 342. The question is, 'Shall House Bill 342 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Representative Bowman to explain his vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I really didn't understand the speeches coming from the other side of the aisle because they were concerned, anxious about our bond rating. Well, the other side of the aisle had an awful lot of green votes on that board for the 'Build Illinois' package that was several billions of dollars. This is a very modest addition to the kinds of programs that... that we were promoting with that package. So, if that package did not jeopardize Illinois bond ratings, I don't see how this particular proposal can jeopardize our bond ratings. Let me point out that this... the money in this proposal will not stand alone. That there will be additional monies which will be leveraged from the Chicago Building Commission and from local 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 sources. That this... this money will get more bang for the buck than the other high tech programs in what might be considered the official 'Build Illinois' package. I would further point out to Members on my side of the aisle that the Speaker is the principle Sponsor of this Bill, and I think that a few more green votes from our side of the aisle would be... would be appropriate. And to the other side of the aisle, I'd say not to worry, you've already voted for billions anyway. This is a very very modest incrimental increase."

"The Gentleman from Marion, Dwight... Representative Friedrich, one minute to explain your vote."

"Mr. Speaker, I actually rose for the other purpose."

"I'll recognize you after this Bill then. Representative McGann, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Assembly. I am voting 'present' so that I will not have a conflict of interest as Chairman of City Colleges of Chicago. But I would like to mention that it's very, very important that this piece of legislation and appropriation would come forth. The Public Building Commission of the City of Chicago is providing their share of the monies in order to bring about this tech center to work with the different business and industrial communities of the west side area in order to provide jobs. This is an excellent program, and I would ask your cooperation. I only wish I could give a green vote."

"Representative Braun, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The other night when we were here so late, Representative Younge pointed out that if we're going to really talk about solving some of the problems of intercity 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 communities, it makes sense to listen to some of the solutions offered by representatives of those intercity communities. We have tried and tried and tried top down planning, and we've seen that it has not worked. We see the results of our failures everytime we look in the newspaper and see how people are unemployed and untrained for employment. Representative Soliz has a proposal here that is responsive to the needs of his community, will have an uplifting affect in that community, and will leverage other governmental as well as private dollars for job training and development. I encourage your response to his appeal. I encourage your response to his attempt to represent the interest of those community and actually provide some actual workable solutions to problems that everyone in this General Assembly is concerned about. I encourage your green vote."

"Representative Ronan, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I too rise in support of this very important piece of legislation. I find it ironic that Members of the General Assembly on the other side of the aisle are not voting to create the kind of environment we need in the City of Chicago to train people so that we can finally put them back to work. How are we ever going to establish a society where we don't have dependent people on government social programs, if we don't give the kinds of job incentives, and the kinds of job training that are desperately needed for all the citizens of the City of Chicago. This will be a tremendous benefit not only for the hispanic and black community, but there are a number of white citizens who will use that... that project up on the far northwest side at the former campus of Wright Junior College. I think 25  48th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1985 it's crucial that we in the General Assembly give people an opportunity το better themselves, and give them the kinds of training, the high tech field, that's so important for not only the next decade, but for the next generation. I urge the Members on the other side of the aisle to reconsider their 'no' vote, and to give people a chance and give them an opportunity to put themselves to work and have the necessary skills available to do that. And I urge an 'aye' vote on this important Bill."

"Representative Vitek, to explain his vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Many of you old timers remember another guy that used to sit on the other side, Bernie Epton. Remember Bernie? Bernie would say, I'm going to vote my conscience even though I have a conflict of interest. He was the head of our Insurance Committee, and I'm sure you fellows that are from out of Chicago will vote your conscience. Andy, I know the good Lord will forgive you if you vote if you vote a green light, because he forgave Bernie Epton, who was one time a candidate for Mayor of Chicago. So, maybe someday you'll be a big guy, and you'll run for mayor. So, think about it. Vote green."

"Representative McGann."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for allowing me..."

"For what reason do you rise?"

"A point of personal privilege."

"State your point."

"In as much as I have explained my conflict, I will now vote my conscience."

"Representative Vinson, for what reason do you rise?"

"To request a verification in the event that this Bill should appear to get the request majority." 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 63 'ayes', 49 'nos'. The Gentleman from DeWitt has requested a verification, and Representative Soliz asks for a Poll of the Absentees."

Clerk O'Brien: Frederick. Speaker."

Speaker McPike: "Poll of the Absentees. DeLeo. Virginia Klemm. Laurino. Satterthwaite. And Mr. to be "Representative Brookins asks leave verified. Representative Vinson. Proceed with the poll of the affirmative vote."

"Alexander."

"Excuse me. Representative Levin asks leave to be verified. Proceed."

Clerk O'Brien: "Berrios. Bowman. Braun. Breslin. Brookins."

"Excuse me, Representative O'Connell would like leave to be verified. Anyone else? Proceed, Mr. Clerk. Representative Keane asks the same request. Representative Keane, Representative Preston and Representative Shaw, have that same request. Proceed, Mr. Clerk."

"Brunsvold. Bullock. Capparelli. Christensen. Cullerton. Curran. Currie. DeJaegher. Dunn. Farley. Flinn. Flowers. Giglio. Giorgi. Greiman. Hannig. Hartke. Homer. Huff. Keane. Krska. Kulas. LeFlore. Leverenz. Levin. Matijevich. Mautino. McGann. McNamara. McPike. Mulcahey. Nash. O'Connell. Panayotovich. Pangle. Phelps. Preston. Rea. Rice. Richmond. Ronan. Saltsman. Shaw. Slater. Soliz. Steczo. Stern. Sutker. Terzich. Turner. Van Duyne. Vitek. Washington. White. Wolf. Anthony Young. And Wyvetter Younge."

"Questions of the affirmative."

"Representative Homer." 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day

May 29, 1985 "Representative Homer is in his chair." "Representative Mautino."

"Representative Mautino is in his chair."

"Representative McNamara."

"McNamara is in his chair."

"Representative Nash."

Speaker McPike: "Representative Nash. Is Representative Nash in the chamber? Remove Representative Nash from the Roll Call."

"Representative Panayotovich."

"Representative Panayotovich. The center aisle."

"Representative Pangle."

"Representative Pangle is in his chair."

"Representative Phelps."

"Representative Phelps is in the front of the chamber."

"Representative Rea."

"Representative Rice?"

"Rea. R-E-A."

"Representative Rea is in the rear. Proceed."

"Where were we with Representative Rea?"

"He's in the rear of the chamber."

"Oh, okay. Representative Ronan." Speaker McPike: ke: "Representative Ronan. here? Representative Ronan in the chamber? Representative Ronan The Gentleman is not. Remove him from the Roll Call."

"Representative Saltsman."

"Representative Saltsman is in.. in the aisle. Representative Ronan has returned. Return Representative Ronan to the Roll Call. Representative Braun, for what reason do you rise? The Lady asks leave to be verified. Leave, Proceed, Representative Vinson."

"Representative Steczo." 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985

"Representative Steczo is in his chair."

"Representative Washington."

"Representative Washington is in his chair."

"Representative Anthony Young."

"Representative Anthony Young is in his chair, and Representative Bullock would like leave to be verified. Leave. Proceed."

"Representative Breslin."

"Representative Breslin. The Lady is in the chamber."

"Representative Capparelli."

"Representative Capparelli is in his chair."

"Representative Wyvetter Younge."

"Representative Younge. Is the Lady in the chamber? She is not. Remove her from the Roll Call."

"Representative Cullerton."

"Representative Cullerton. Representative Cullerton. He's in the rear."

"Representative Farley."

"Representative Farley. Is the Gentleman here? Representative Farley. Remove him from the Roll Call."

"Representative Flinn."

"Representative Flinn is in his chair."

"Representative Greiman."

"Representative Greiman. Representative Greiman in the chamber? Yes, he is. He's in the rear."

"Representative Hannig."

"Representative Hannig is in his chair."

"Representative Slater."

"Representative Slater. Representative Slater. Is the Gentleman here? Remove him from the Roll Call. Representative Nash has returned to the chamber. Return Representative Nash to the Roll Call." 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day

"Representative Flowers."

"Representative Flowers is here."

"Representative Wolf."

"Representative Wolf is here."

"No further questions."

"Representative Hicks."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I'd like to be recorded 'aye' instead of 'no', please."

"The Gentleman changes his vote from 'no' to 'aye'. Representative Satterthwaite."

"May I be recorded as voting 'aye', please?"

"The Lady votes 'aye'. What's the count, Mr. Clerk? On this Bill, there are 62 'ayes', 43 'nos'. House Bill 342, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair would remind everyone that that's the first Bill we passed. We will now return to the Bills we took... that we took out of the record a few minutes ago at the request of the Sponsors. Excuse me. Representative from Marion, Representative Friedrich."

"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to request a 30 minute recess for the purpose of Republican Conference in Room 118 immediately."

"Representative Friedrich, you are aware that we would like to proceed and call all of these appropriations Bills this evening. That was the intent of the Chair when we recessed at 12:15. It was the intent of the Chair when we came back at 4:15 to call these Bills to proceed in an orderly manner to call these Bills tonight so that we can get out of here tomorrow. We are going to call all of these Bills tonight. Now, do you persist in asking for a Republican Caucas?"

"I have been asked to request that conference, and I persist with it." 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1985 48th Legislative Day

"Very well. That... that will... that request will be honored, but I... the Chair will remind you that we intend to call these Bills tonight. And if you take the Bill out of the record, the Bill will probably not be called tomorrow. The House will stand in recess for a half hour, and we will be back at 20 til 6:00. Representative Hastert, welcome back. Committee Bills... Senate Bills First Reading. The House will come to order."

"Senate Bill 54, Keane, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 55, White, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 57, Keane, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 60, Tate - Churchill, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 61, Brookins, a Bill for an Act making appropriation to the Board of Higher Education. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 632, Satterthwaite - Johnson - Braun, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 648, McCracken, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 750, Deuchler, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Clinical Labratory Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 833, Daniels, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 848, Hawkinson, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to the access of the criminal history record information. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 849, Vinson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1129, Anthony Young, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Administrative Code of Illinois. First 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day Reading of the Bill."

May 29, 1985 "Continuing on the Calendar page 2, appears House Bill 362, Representative Wolf. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 362 (sic House Bill 362), a Bill for an Act making appropriation to the Department of Revenue. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 362, Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 362, a Bill for an Act making appropriation to the Department of Revenue for the Office of Appraisals. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Madison, Representative Wolf: Wolf." "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 362 appropriates 431,000 for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Revenue for the Office of Appraisals for the fiscal year beginning July 1, 1985. As many of you know, the Office of Appraisals was created in 1980 by the General Assembly and signed into law by the Governor at that time. The purpose of the office was to provide a service by statute to assist local units of government in counties of less than one million with appraisals of large commercial and industrial properties. Now, the reason for this is that the smaller units of local government cannot afford the type of expert appraisal service that it requires to appraise large commercial and industrial properties. This comes into being when these local units of government are forced to defend themselves at the state level at the Office of Appeals... the Board of Appeals. Many large commercial and industrial risks are 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 going the route of bypassing the Board of Review at the county level in order to get to the state level, because they can't afford to hire the type of appraisal service to present to the Board of Appeals which would establish an appraised value considerably less than that established by the local supervisor of assessments. I think that this Office of Appraisals properly funded as provided by this legislation would provide the kind of service that local units of government need. For some reason or another, this agency was created in 1980, has never been funded for one reason or another. I think the time is long passed for this to be accomplished. I ask for your support."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 362. And on that, the Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert."

"Would the Sponsor yield?"

"Yes, he will."

"Representative, is the... is this in the Governor's budget?"

"I don't believe it is at this time."

"Thank you."

"The Gentleman from Livingston, Representative Ewing."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, we have existed for 10 years without the expenditure of $431,000. I think we could probably exist another 10 years very well, and save that money for education or some other needed service. I would vote 'no'."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Harris."

"Question of the Sponsor, Mr. Speaker."

"Proceed."

"Representative, just a quick question. Has appropriation requesting... or has an appropriation been 33  48th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE requested for this Office of Appraisal before years?" May 29, 1985 in previous

"TO my knowledge it never has, and no one has been able to Harris: explain intelligently to me or anyone else why this hasn't been done." "Okay. Thank you."

"Representative Wolf, to close."

"Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. this A previous speaker has indicated that we have done without service for the last 10 years, and we can do without it for the next 10. That may be true, but the problem that we've been encountering is being compounded by the fact that many of the large commercial and industrial risks are discovering that they can bypass the Board of Review, go to the state level, get their assessments reduced drastically. This is beginning to affect many of the taxing bodies at the local level, such as your boards of education, and I think the time has come for passage of this Act."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 362. The question is, 'Shall House Bill 362 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 64 'ayes', 48 'nos', none voting present'. And House Bill 362, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. We will now return to a Bill that was taken out of the record at the request of the Sponsor. House Bil1 143, Representative Currie. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 143, a Bill for an Act making appropriation to the State Comptroller for the making grants to certain public radio stations. has been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was purpose of This Bill 34  48th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, May 29, 1985 offered by Representative Currie Madigan."

"Representative Currie, Amendment #2."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Leave to withdraw Amendment 2."

"The Lady withdraws Amendment #2. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 143, Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 143, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the State Comptroller for the purposes of making grants to certain public radio stations. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Currie, on House Bill 143."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 143 is companion legislation to a Bill that passed out of this chamber last week providing a program of support for public radio and television stations in the State of Illinois. The public television portion of the funding is actually already part of the Illinois State Statutes. That program has, however, been unfunded since 1981. House Bill 143 in line with the provisions of House Bill 143 would provide dollar support behind the state statute already in the books for public televsions and to add to funding for public radios as provided for in House Bill 142 (sic House Bill 143). I'm happy to answer your questions, and I would appreciate your support."

"The Lady moves for passage of House Bill 143, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 35  48th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1985 'Shall House Bill 143 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye, opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 66 'ayes', 45 'nos', and none voting 'present'. House Bill 143, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 418, Representative Capparelli. Read the Bill, Hr. Clerk."

"House Bill 418, a Bill for an Act making appropriation for the Metropolitan Fair and Exhibition Authority Reconstruction Fund. This Bill has been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 418, Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 418, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the Metropolitan Fair and Exhibition Authority Reconstruction Fund. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Capparelli."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is the annual appropriation of 4.8 million dollars to the Metro... from the Metropolitan Fair and Exposition Authority Reconstruction Fund to the Metropolitan Fair and Exhibition Authority. This is included in the Governor's annual budget, and I would recommend a 'aye vote."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 418. And on that, the Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, will the Sponsor yield for a question?"

"Yes."

"Representative, is this the annual appropriation for 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day McCormick Place?"

"Yes."

May 29, 1985 "Now, is that the authority... I saw somewhere the other day in the newspaper where one of these authorities was attempting to build a building that was flammable. That would burn up. Now, isn't that the new McCormick Place that they were talking about on that?"

"What? They resolved that, yes."

"What?"

"They resolved that problem."

"What do you mean they resolved it? Did the building burn down last night?"

"No. No. No. They're going to open up... they dismissed those bids, and they're going to open the new bids."

"Will that cost more money?"

"We'll have to wait and see."

"Mr. Speaker, to the Bill. This is one that we absolutely ought to beat here. Just this past month in the Chicago newspapers, The_Sun_Times pointed out that the plans for McCormick Place, the new building that this would help pay for. The money would be used to build a building that would burn down. A building that under the City Fire Code was flammable. The panels on the building would burn down. Now, some of you who may not have been watching McCormick Place for very long may realize that the original McCormick Place burned down. And they had to come back down here and get another appropriation to build another McCormick Place, because the first one built burned down. And now, they're planning to spend this money on another McCormick Place that would burn down. That is a waste of the taxpayers' money, and nobody, no selfrespecting Member of this General Assembly, ought to be voting for something 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 like this with an authority that's demonstrated that kind of irresponsibility. Anybody who votes for this is for burning up the money of the people of the State of Illinois, and I urge a 'no' vote on this and request a verification should it appear to get the requisite number of votes."

"Representative Bullock."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Will... Representative Capparelli will you yield for a couple of questions? Representative Capparelli, is it your understanding that in today's Sun__Times and throughout the Chicago media market that Dr. Joseph *Hannen', who's Executive Director of the McCormick Authority, announced to the State of Illinois and certainly to those members down in DeWitt County that in fact, the panels that were in dispute, that the firm that manufactured those panels has in fact been removed, and that the contract has been cancelled with that corporation? And is it also your understanding that the McCormick facility has 6 members appointed in the authority by the Governor, and 6 members appointed by the Mayor of the City of Chicago? And that in fact the newly appointed member of that authority is a fine U.S. District Attorney that indentifies with that side of the aisle by the name of Dan Webb? Mr. Speaker, to the Bill."

"Proceed."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I respect the Gentleman from DeWitt. Off the floor, we're the best of friends. On the floor, we're loyal adversaries, and I'm surprised and chagrined since I know for a fact that he visited our great city over the weekend, that he failed to pick up that fine newspaper, The Chicago Sun-Times, which clearly reported today on frontpage in 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 addition to all of the other episodes that occurred that The Sun Times picks up. That the McCormick Fair and Exposition Authority affective today, because of The Sun Times expose on the deficient panels attendant to the annex expansion have in fact dismissed that company. Will, in fact, contract new bids, open and competitive bids for the construction of McCormick Place. The reason I rise in support of this is that last year this Assembly, and Senator Rock, and I were proud to sponsor a Bill which expanded McCormick Place. That project is on schedule. It is being well managed by appointees from the Thompson Administration and the Washington Administration, former U. S.... and the present U. S. Attorney Anto Valuckus served on that authority. We have the wife of Judge Flaum on that authority. We have the best watchdog in the business you could find on the McCormick Authority. They're doing a good job, Representative Vinson, of watching the taxpayers' dollars. Representative Capparelli should be supported, and we should in fact move on and support the Gentleman's... and give it green votes."

"Representative Capparelli, to close."

"Mr. Speaker, this money has already been approved by the Governor. There should be no problem with this. The Governor has approved this. It's in his annual budget. The downstate gets 14 million from the same fund. I would ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"Gentleman moves for passage of House Bill 418. The question is, 'Shall House Bill 418 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Representative Bowman, to explain his vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. You know, I think the only reason the Gentleman from DeWitt got up to speak was he wants a bargaining chip 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 34th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 for the end of the Session. That's all it is is just a political Roll Call, unfortunately. If the issue is substance, as Representative Capparelli expresses, is perfectly valid, this is an earmarked Fund. The money is not coming out of the General Revenue Funds, and downstate gets 14 million dollars out of the same fund. I think it's an appropriate appropriation."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 65 'ayes', 47 'nos'. Representative Vinson, are you seeking a verification?"

"Not right now."

"Not right now? 65 'ayes', 47 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, House Bill 418 is declared passed. House Bill 526, Representative Leverenz. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 526, a Bill for an Act making an additional appropriation to the Secretary of State for the per capita grants to public libraries. This Bill has been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 526, Third Reading. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 526, a Bill for an Act making an additional appropriation to the Secretary of State for per capita grants to public libraries. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 526 would appropriate 4,490,000 dollars additionally to the Secretary of State's budget. This, if you know anything about the library funding for the State 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 of Illinois - it's on a per capita basis, and it has been funded at probably a 53 or 54 cent level. This would bring it up to one dollar, and that is what is provided in state law, that it would be provided at one dollar. Therefore, by making this appropriation, we are living within the letter of the law and fully funding that library formula. I would ask for your green vote to pass this Bill"

"Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 526. There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 526 pass?' Representative Woodyard, your light is now on. Gentleman from Edgar, Representative Woodyard."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Question of the Sponsor, please."

"Proceed."

"Representative, would it be your intent, if this Bill were to pass, that you would withdraw the Amendment on House Bill 583?"

"No, but you bring up a good question, and let me explain it since you brought the question up. If this Bill should pass to the Senate, and as we all know occasionally we need a vehicle Bill for a Conference Committee Report someplace. Obviously we wouldn't need twice as much, and we are going to proceed with the Amendment to put it into the Secretary of State's budget directly so that it is where it should be and that it is also going to be pointed out, as I did in Committee, that the Secretary of State did not ask for it, did not support it, but we're going to put it there anyway."

"Mr. Speaker, then, to the Bill so that the Membership does realize that this is an appropriation Bill in the amount of 4,490,000 dollars which is not in the budget. And so, use your own judgement".

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 526 pass?' 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 73 'ayes', 35 'nos', 5 voting 'present'. House Bill 526, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 529, Representative Ronan. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 529, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the Illinois Development Finance Authority. Second ... This Bill has been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 529, Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 529, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the Illinois Development Finance Authority. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Ronan."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 529 appropriates five million to the Illinois Development Finance Authority for use in its direct loan program. This is one of the state agencies that's really done a good job on behalf of the public. They make loan dollars available for construction projects. It's done an excellent job on behalf of the taxpayers, and I'll be glad to answer any questions."

"Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 529. The question is, 'Shall House Bill 529 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Representative Mautino, one minute to explain his vote." 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wanted to ask some questions. I'm not sure that the explanation of vote would suffice at this time."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 66 'ayes', 45 'nos', 1 voting 'present'. House Bill 529, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 530, Representative Leverenz. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 530, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the State Board of Elections. This Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 530, Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 530, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the State Board of Elections. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 530 would appropriate 4,273,000 dollars for the operations of the State Board of Elections. I would ask for your 'aye' vote. And if you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them."

"Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 530. Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 530 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 record. On this Bill there are 108 'ayes', 5 'nos', none voting 'present'. House Bill 530, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 583, Representative Woodyard. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 583, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the Secretary of State. This Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Leverenz."

"Representative Leverenz, Amendment #2."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #2, as we discussed about four or five minutes ago, would be the 4.490 thousand dollars that would bring the library level up to a dollar to meet the per capita formula. I would ask for your support to adopt Amendment #2. And if we do that and get it passed, we'll use the other as a vehicle in the Senate."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2. Is there any discussion? Being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Leverenz."

"Representative Leverenz, Amendment #3."

"Withdraw. Withdraw."

"Gentleman withdraws Amendment #3. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day Flowers."

May 29, 1985 "Representative Flowers, Amendment #4. The Lady withdraws Amendment #4. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 583, Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 583, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation the Bill." to the Secretary of State. Third Reading of

"This Bill has been amended today. Requires 71 votes. The Gentleman asks leave to have the Bill heard on Third Reading at this time. Are there any objections? Hearing none, leave is granted. The Attendance Roll Call will be used. It's on Third Reading. It's been read a third time. Representative Woodyard on the Bill."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. As amended now the Secretary of State's appropriation would be 193,986,000 dollars. Its the OCE of the Secretary of State's Office. It does include the normal pay increases for all state employees. It does contain the additional appropriations for the new programs put in place by this General Assembly. And I would ask your favorable support or be glad to answer any questions."

"Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 583. Is there any discussion? Being none, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 583 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 109 'ayes', 2 'nos', none voting 'present'. House Bill 583, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 641, Representative Richmond. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985

"House Bill 641, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the Capital Development Board. This Bill has been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 641, Third Reading. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 641, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the Capital Development Board. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Richmond."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 641 appropriates 2.3 million to the Capital Development Board to renovate the Veterans' Center at Anna Mental Hospital and Developmental Center. This is something that we've been striving to get for our part of the state, and I would ask your support of House Bill 641."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 641. Is there any discussion? On that, the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr Speaker. Will the Gentleman respond to a question?"

"He will."

"How many individuals are presently housed at the Mental Health and Developmental Center?"

"I sure... I'm not sure of the answer to that question. Of course, it have nothing to do with what we're trying to do here. We're talking about a retirement center for... utilizing existing buildings for a Veterans' Retirement Home."

"For... You're talking about changing... You're talking about changing the purpose for which the Center is being 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 presently used?"

"No, just some unused buildings, some surplus buildings there that could... that lend themselves very well to renovation and changes to accommodate a Veterans' Retirement Center, which is badly needed to accommodate the aging veterans in our part of the state."

"Is this project supported by the Department of Veterans' Affairs?"

"It's supported by them. They're not quite sure just where it appears on their priority list the last time I talked to them. And it... that will have to be determined as it moves further along the channels."

"Thank you very much. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, with all due respect to the Sponsor of this legislation, and in all due respect for what appears to be, at least on the face, the intent, it would appear to me that since this is not included in the budget of the Department of Veterans' Affairs and since we're going to be faced with finite resources, that it is... probably the better part of wisdom at this stage of the game to oppose appropriations similar to this. And for that reason, I rise in opposition to this legislation."

"Representative Ewing."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I think it's been adequately pointed out that this is not in the budget and, therefore, an increase and will divert money from other sources. We ought to all be aware of that."

"Representative Richmond, to close."

"I just ask your support of House Bill 641. Thank you."

"Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 641. The question is, 'Shall House Bill 641 pass?' 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 34th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 65 'ayes', 46 'nos', none voting 'present'. House Bill 641, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 651, Representative Barnes. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 651, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Office of Commissioner of Savings and Loans. This Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendments #1 and 3 were adopted in Committee"

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 651, Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 651, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Office of Commissioner of Savings and Loan. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 651 as amended appropriates 1,279,745 dollars to the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Savings and Loan Commissioner. I would ask for an 'aye' vote"

"The Lady moves for the passage of House Bill 651. Is there any discussion? Being none, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 651 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 record. On this Bill there are 107 'ayes', 4 'nos', none voting 'present'. And House Bill 651, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 652, Representative Barnes. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 652, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense for the Prisoner Review Board. This Bill ha has been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Leverenz."

"Representative Leverenz,"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #31 would reduce the appropriation by 100,000 dollars in the equipment line items. I understand it to be agreed - and the contractual area - and the agency agrees to it. I would move for the adoption of Amendment #1."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1. Is there any discussion? Being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. The Lady asks leave to have the Bill heard on Third Reading at this time. Any objections? Hearing none, leave is granted. Attendance Roll Call will be use used. House Bill 652, Third Reading. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 652, a Bill for an Act making appropriations For the ordinary and contingent expense of the Prisoner Review Board. Third Reading of the Bill"

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 652 as just amended 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 appropriates 835,900 dollars for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Prison Review Board. I would ask for an 'aye' vote"

"The Lady moves for the passage of House Bill 652. Is there any discussion? Being none, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 652 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 107 'ayes', 3 'nos', 2 voting 'present'. House Bill 652, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 653. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 653, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense the Local Governmental Law Enforcement Officers' Training Board. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 653, Third Reading. Read the Bill"

"House Bill 653, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Local Government Law Enforcement Officers' Training Board. Third Reading of the Bill."

"House Bill 653, Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 653 as introduced appropriates 7,120,100 dollars for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Police Training Board."

"The Lady moves for the passage of House Bill 653. Is there any discussion? Being none, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 653 pass?' All those in favor signify by 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 voting 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 111 'ayes', 2 'no', none voting 'present'. And House Bill 653, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 654, Representative Barnes. Read the Bill"

"House Bill 654, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the State Employees' Retirement System. This Bill has been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 654. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 654, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the State Employees' Retirement System. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 654 as introduced appropriates 4,916,800 dollars for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the State Employees' Retirement System. I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The Lady moves for passage of House Bill 654. Is there any discussion? Representative Terzich."

"Yeah, Representative Barnes, what percentage funding are they putting into the pension system, State Employees' Retirement System? Is this at 60 percent, 40 percent?"

"It's 60 percent, as last year, Representative."

"At the 60 percent, the employees are presently putting in somewhere around eight percent. What's the state contribution as compared to the payroll? What percentage of payroll is the state contributing to the pension 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day system?" May 29, 1985

"That's a very good question, Representative, and I'11 have your answer in a minute."

"Thank you."

"Representative Barnes, are you waiting to answer the question?"

"Well, we feel that the state puts in the 60 percent."

"No, that's what they're funding. They're funding 60 percent of payouts, but I believe the state employees right now is a percentage of their payroll or contributing approximately eight percent of their salary in pension contributions. And I'm wondering what percentage the state is contributing towards the pension system as compared to their salary they're contributing eight percent. What is the state contributing, two percent, three percent, four percent?"

"Seven percent."

"They're contributing seven percent, and the state employees are contributing eight percent. So, therefore, the employees are contributing more money into the pension system than the state is."

"Well, Representative, I believe that you are on the Pension Commission, and I've always considered you an authority on the pension system. And if that's what you say, I would agree with you."

"Well, I would just want to point out to the Members of the General Assembly, that's what been happening to the state pension system is that the employees are continuously paying into the pension system. And unfortunately, the employer has not been contributing his share into the pension system. And this is just a fact that when they contribute eight percent and the employer is supposed to be contributing around 16 percent and it comes out to be seven 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 percent so you know who's getting the short end of the stick. Thank you, Representative Barnes. You're a great Legislator."

"Thank you. I would ask for an 'aye' vote, Mr. Speaker."

"The Lady moves for the passage of House Bill 654. The question is, 'Shall House BIll 654 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 112 'ayes', no 'nays' and I voting 'present'. House Bill 654, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 655. I'm sorry. Excuse me. Representative Cullerton, for what reason do you rise?"

"Yes, for the purposes of an announcement, Mr. Speaker. To all those Members of the Judiciary II Committee, that's the Criminal Law Committee in the House, we will not be meeting tomorrow. The Judiciary II Committee, Criminal Law Committee, will not meet tomorrow. So it's very possible that Judiciary I Committee will go a little bit past its deadline. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"House Bill 655."

"House BIll 655, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Teacher Retirement System. Been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House BIll 655, Third Reading. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 655, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Teachers' Retirement System. Third Reading of the Bill." 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 655 as introduced appropriated 24,286,200 dollars to the Teachers' Retirement System to pay supplementary benefits to teachers with minimum retirement allowances."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of House Bill 655. And on that, Representative Terzich."

"Representative Barnes, I notice that the teachers contribute eight and a half percent of their payroll to the pension system. Can you tell what percentage the state is contributing?"

"This is a supplementary. I think that you want to wait for another Bill that's going to be heard. It's House Bill 994."

"Alright. We'll check with you later then. Thank you."

"Thank you."

"The Lady has moved for passage of House Bill 655. Question is, 'Shall House Bill 655 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 113 'ayes', no 'nays', none voting 'present'. House Bill 655, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 656. Representative Breslin in the Chair. Read the

"House Bill 656, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Pollution Control Board. Has been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Amendments from the floor?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker." 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985

"Excuse me. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill a third time?"

"House Bill 656, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Pollution Control Board. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. House Bill 656 as introduced appropriates 1,213,200 dollars for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Pollution Control Board. I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of House Bill 656. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 656 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 110 voting 'aye', 2 voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 657. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill"

"House BIll 657, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Illinois Labor Relations Board. Has been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House BIll 657, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Education Labor Relations Board. Third Reading of the Bill." 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 29, 1985

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. House Bill 657 as amended appropriates 1,562,552 dollars for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Educational Labor Relations Board. I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of House Bill 657. And on that question, the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Hoffman."

"Thank you very much. Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I'd just like to point out to you that here's a 1,562,000 dollars for the Illinois Educational and Labor Relations Board against which a number of us voted when it came before this Body. And as you watch this appropriation Bill, this explains part of the reason why we opposed it. Here's a million and a half dollars going for an agency that doesn't even need to exist. And I rise in opposition to this Bill."

"There being no further discussion, Representative Barnes, to close".

"I would merely ask for an 'aye' vote, Madam Speaker."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 657 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 89 voting 'aye', 24 voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 658, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 658, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Local Labor Relations Board. Has been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?" 56  48th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1985

"None."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill on Third, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 658, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Local Labor Relations Board. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam..."

"Excuse me. Excuse me. Representative Leverenz, for what reason do you rise?"

"When it was on Second, did you ask if there were any Amendments?"

"I did, and there were none filed."

"Did you ask if there were any Motions filed?"

"There were no Amendments adopted in Committee, so there were no Motions that could be filed."

"Oh, you're right. One of the words was... right. So we're in the right posture on Third Reading on this one"

"Representative Barnes, the Bill has been read a third time. Proceed."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. House BIll 658 as introduced appropriates 1,001,900 dollars to the Local Labor Relations Board for Fiscal Year '86. I would ask for an 'aye' vote".

"The Lady has moved for the passage of House Bill 658. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 658 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 37 voting 'aye', 25 voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 659, 57  48th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1985 Representative Hastert. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 659, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Human Rights Commission. It's been read a second time previously."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill on Third, please."

"House Bill 659, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Human Rights Commission. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 659 appropriates 744,900 dollars to the Human Rights Commission. Happy to answer any questions."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 659. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 659 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 83 voting 'aye', 22 voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitution... Representative Mulcahey asks to be voted 'aye'. There are, therefore, 84 voting 'aye', 22 voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 660. Clerk, read the 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 34th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day Bill."

May 29, 1985 "House Bill 660, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Human Rights. It's been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Read the Bill on Third."

"House Bill 660, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Human Rights. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 660 appropriates 4,038,200 dollars to the Department of Human Rights. I'll be happy to answer any questions."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 660. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 660 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 85 voting 'aye', 22 voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 661. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 661, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Medical Center Commission. Has been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee" 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day What Amendment... May 29, 1985 Floor Amendment #2 does is provide a means of transferring remaining federal funds to the Protection and Advocacy Board after the mandated split between the Guardianship and Advocacy Commission and the Protection and Advocacy Board. There's no dollar change. All it does is transfer those funds."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 662. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 to House Bill 662 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. The Gentleman now asks leave for immediate consideration of House Bill 662 on Third Reading. Are there any objections? Representative Friedrich."

"No, I won't object, although I could. But I certainly want to speak against the Bill."

"Very good. Hearing no objections, the Gentleman has leave for immediate consideration of House Bill 662. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 662, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Guardianship and Advocacy Commission. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 662 appropriates 3,970,600 dollars to the Guardianship Advocacy Commission. I'll be happy to answer any questions." 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day

May 29, 1985 "The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 662. And on that question, the Gentleman from Marion, Representative Friedrich."

"Madam Speaker, Members of the House, of all the requests that come before us today for money, this is the one that should be soundly rejected. A few... a couple years ago, this outfit came before the Audit Commission. We asked them to explain what they did. And, so help me, God, they couldn't even explain what they did, but I've found out since what they did. They go around to all of the school districts in the state harassing them, being disruptive and costing them thousands and thousands of dollars. And I have letters here. I'm sorry I didn't appear before the Appropriations Committee, because I think I might have been able to stop this Bill in Committee. But I can show you right here; the Tri-County Special Ed District in Union, Jackson and Perry County, the Community Unit District in Murphysboro, Century High School, Kaskaskia Special Ed District. And let me tell you what they're doing. They're causing these people to spend hours and hours of staff time, thousands and thousands of dollars worth of attorneys' fees and staff time, and let me just read a few of them. Here's one for 6,258 dollars. That didn't include telephone calls and staff time; 4,313 dollars from the Community District in Lawrence and Crawford Counties. Here's another one for 24,842 dollars, and this does not include the time that is taken away from the children that need help of these staff people. I'm not sure why on earth this thing has been allowed to grow as it has. It probably is one of the biggest abuses of government in the State of Illinois. And if anything, it ought to be abolished. And, frankly, a couple years ago, I thought the Governor was going to abolish it. And like the 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 cat with nine lives, here it comes again with an appropriation of 3,970,000 dollars, plus all of the costs that it costs the local districts. I hope this will be soundly defeated, because it has no place in State Government the way it's being operated. And I don't know if you've had any experience in your district, but I can tell you, if you had, you can find that these people are going around causing problems of people who are really trying to do a good job with these special ed children. So I hope that you will vote 'no' on this Bill."

"There being no further discussion, Representative Hastert, to close."

"Just to answer Representative Friedrich. One of their main functions is to serve as a guardian of the last resort to people who need guardians. There is a 36 percent increase in their budget over least year. And, you know, you have to vote your conscience on this."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 662 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Representative Bowman, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. First of all, I would point out that this is an official agency of State Government, that it is established pursuant to law. If you don't like the agency and what it's doing, then the proper thing to do is to repeal the law on which... which requires this appropriation. Now if you don't like how the agency functions, that's another matter. That's something to be discussed. However, as the Gentleman observed, he didn't bother to come before the Appropriations Committee and tell us about his problems in his district. I mean, when people come before our 63  48th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1985 Committee and have problems, you know, I use my role as Chairman of the Committee to go to the directors of the agencies and ask them to work out these problems. And I do that whether the person approaching me is a Democrat or a Republican, because I think if you've got a problem in your district that we ought to try and work it out with the agency directors. We all represent our constituents to the best of our abilities. And when our constituents bring us problems, we should try and work them out. He didn't do that. I think it's regretable, and I think taking it out on Third Reading is the wrong way to do it. And if this Bill gets beaten on Third Reading and he wants to come into my Committee and try and work their problem again, I'm going to give him a deaf ear because he hasn't shown any interest in working with the Committee. So, if this Bill gets beaten, then that's fine. He's on his own from here on out."

"Representative Bowman, your time is up. The Lady from DuPage, Representative Cowlishaw, one minute to explain your vote."

"Madam Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I was appointed by the Governor to serve on the Guardianship and Advocacy Commission. If I had my way, it's annual appropriation would be reduced to zero. That Commission is probably the most poorly functioning, meddlesome group of people it has even been my displeasure with whom to be associated. I vote 'no'."

"The Lady ... The Lady from Lake, Representative Frederick."

"Yes, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I think one good reason for supporting this appropriation is the Amendment that we just adopted which will transfer funds to the Protection and Advocacy Board. 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 I can tell you, that Board is outstanding in the way it serves the people of our state, and I think they should be protected. So, I'm voting 'aye'."

"Have all voted who wish? The Lady from Cook, Representative Currie, one minute to explain your vote. Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. I don't understand the failure of this Bill to achieve the 60 votes it needs to pass. The 36 percent increase wasn't our way of saying, 'You're doing such a swell job. We want you do to more of exactly what you are doing.' It's because right now there isn't the money to provide guardianship services for people who, themselves, are not competent to request it and have no available relatives to ask this Commission to play that role. Without the 36 percent increase, we will continue seeing people in this state unserved who are in need of advocates and who are especially in need of guardians. I don't understand why there seems to be such opposition to the proposal. The 36 percent increase is warranted, reflects the fact that we have left unserved people who need this kind of protection, and I think that the only appropriate vote on this Bill is 'yes'."

"The Gentleman from Bureau, Representative Mautino, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I stand in support of the recommendation presented by Representative Friedrich. This is the same Commission when enacting their rules and regulations mandated that the individuals and parents could not even sign their own guardianship provisions for the court but had to do it through them, and it increased the cost from 100 dollars to 500 dollars. It's an excellent proposal. And anytime that a Member of this Legislative 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 Body who serves on that Commission recommends its abolishment, that's the way it should be."

"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 46 voting 'aye', 60 voting 'no' and 6 voting 'present'. This Bill, having failed to receive the necessary Majority, is hereby declared lost. House Bill 663, Representative Hastert. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 663, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the State Emergency Services and Disaster Agency. It's been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. Proceed with Third Reading."

"House Bill 663, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the State Emergency Services and Disaster Agency. Third Reading of the Bill"

"Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 663 appropriates 14,946,300 dollars to the Department of Emergency Services and Disaster Agency, known as ESDA. I would ask for your favorable vote. Be..."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 663. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 663 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 108 voting 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 'aye', 2 voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 664. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 664, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Children and Family Services. Has been read a second time previously. Amendments #1 and 3 were adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"A Motion to table Amendment #3, filed by Representative Brookins."

"Representative Brookins, on the tabling Motion for tabling Amendment #3."

"Yes, Madam Speaker and Members of the General Assembly, I move to table Amendment #3. Amendment #3 eliminates 144,600 dollars from the Department and Division of Youth and Community Services. These positions have been funded for seven years under CETA and JTPA grants for youth employment and training coordination. These positions are very much needed, and I move that this Amendment be tabled."

"The Gentleman has moved to table Amendment #3. And on that question, the Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. In this budget, we have approximately 127 new jobs, and it's really quite of an expansion in this Department. We went through it. These are federal jobs that won't be... these are federal funding jobs of 14 we cut it in half. You know, I think this is a fair budget. I think this Department has certainly gotten more than its share, and I would ask to reject the Gentleman's Motion."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative 67  48th Legislative Day Bowman." STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1985

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Normally, I do not rise to support undoing on the floor what we have done in Committee. I'm going to do SO in this instance. The Department of Children and Family Services is asking for 184 new positions in its... in its budget. The Amendment that was proposed in Committee that is now under discussion cut seven positions out of the increase. At the time, it did not seem to me to be a particularly serious cut because that still left the Department with 177 new positions on top of their existing positions."

"The question is, 'Shall...'."

"So I am supporting the Gentleman's Notion to table because I think we took the wrong new positions away. Thank you."

"Yes, Madam Speaker, these positions are the assistant regional youth coordinators, provide technical assistance for community agency and administrate youth employment and training program, have doubled the youth through vocational programs in job preparations and placement, assists in coordinating and monitoring complex, comprehensive and community based programs in the region. I just read off a couple of them because they are very important positions, and that's what makes this agency function. They have a fifty percent success rate. They have placed over 9000 adolescents during their career. So, I ask for a favorable.." "Okay. Representative Brookins, to close."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 to House Bill 664 be tabled?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this 68  48th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE question there May 29, 1985 are 64 voting 'aye', 47 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. And the Amendment is tabled. Are there any further Amendments... Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, Ropp, amends House Bill 664 as amended."

"Representative Ropp."

"Madam Speaker, please withdraw."

"Withdraw Amendment #4. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5, Ropp, amends House Bill 664."

"Representative Ropp."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. One of the things that has happened in the Department of Child and Family Services under our current statute is that when children have been awarded to the state, there are certain amounts of funds based on care and shelter that are awarded to DCFS to take care of those young people. When the court awards them to the county, that responsibility is also a part of the state. Unfortunately, the state has never funded that amount, which the statute currently says up to three percent of DCFS budget shall go for this particular program. The Amendment 4 dealt with the full three percent, which was six million dollars which was entirely too much. When, in fact, I asked DCFS what it is actually costing based on the amount of requests turned in by the counties, it amounted to around two million dollars. The 2.5 million is the amount of money that will go to take care of problem children that have been awarded to the county by courts. Every county in the State of Illinois will be a part of this particular program. Currently, there are some... twenty some counties, I believe, that are in the process of taking this concept to court because the law is not fully being implemented, and I intend, with your 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 help, to implement to the full intent of the law and that's what Amendment 5 is attempting to do."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #5 to House Bill 664. And on that question, the Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'm sure the Gentleman is well intentioned. However, there's a clear choice of the court, whether they're going to give that ward of the court to the state or they're going to give that ward of the court to the counties. If they give the ward of the court to the state, then the state's responsibility. Unfortunately, if they give the ward of the state to the county, then, you know, is it behoove us to fund that. I think that's a decision. It's a decision of dollars and cents. Is Santa Claus going to come today? Is he going to come June 30th sometime with a bundle of money that we can support Amendments onto Bills, a Department that already has a huge budget. I don't think this Amendment makes sense. I don't think we have the money to fund it, and I ask for your 'no' vote."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Bowman."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise in support of my Republican colleague on the other side, Representative Hastert. I believe that he stated the argument very well. Representative Hastert, the Minority Spokesman, and I stand together in opposition to this Amendment."

"There being no further discussion, Representative Ropp, to close."

"Madam Speaker and Members of the House, we just passed legislation within the last several weeks stating that we would fully fund this amount based on the equal amount of costs for shelter and care for those young people that have 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 34th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 been warded either to the state or to the counties. It is a good Amendment, and I welcome your support."

"There being no further discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #5 to House Bill 664 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Representative Homer. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 23 voting 'aye', 77 voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present' and the Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #6, Bowman, amends House Bill 664.."

"Representative Bowman."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Many of the Members will recall that we resisted it by several hundred working parents who took time off from their jobs to come down and tell us about the importance of day care in their lives and the need to expand the number of day care slots so that other people can avail themselves to this very needed service. There was discussions with the Bureau of the Budget, the Governor's Office, Legislative Leadership and an agreement was worked out for Fiscal '85 and for the next two out years. The Amendment #6 reflects this agreement and provides for 45 new licensure staff and for 240... 70 slots for protective day care and 2880 slots for consolidated day care, all of which will begin January 1, 1986. This is in addition to a rate increase for the centers which were already in the budget. I move adoption of Amendment #6."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #6 to House Bill 664. And on that question, the Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 House. This is an Amendment that was an agreement between the Governor's Office and Representative Bowman and his troops over there. It is agreed. I understand the only trouble is on this side of the aisle, we read about it in the newspapers and really wasn't across the board. But I guess this is part of the package."

"The Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."

"Will Mr. Bowman yield for a question, please?"

"He will yield for a question."

"Representative, was Bill Hart in the meetings on this agreement?"

"No, but we keep him fully informed of all of our discussions, just in case."

"There being no further discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #6 to House Bill 664 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Hastert now asks leave for immediate consideration of House Bill 664. Are there any objections? Hearing no objections, the Gentleman has leave. Read the Bill on... By use of the Attendance Roll Call."

"House Bill 664, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Children and Family Services. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Now House Bill 644 (sic - 664) as amended appropriates 261,040,400 dollars to the Department of 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day Children and Family Services. If there are any questions, I'd be happy to try to answer them."

"The Gentleman House Bill 664. And on May 29, 1985 additional has moved for the passage of that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 664 pass? All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question the are 98 voting 'aye', 10 voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 665, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill"

"House Bill 665, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Military and Naval Department. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill on Third."

"House Bill 665, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Military and Naval Department. Third Reading of the Bill"

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. House Bill 665 as amended appropriates 8,701,200 dollars for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Military and Naval Department. I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of House Bill 665. And on that question, is there any discussion? 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 665 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 105 voting 'aye', 4 voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 666, Representative Barnes, Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 666, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Commerce Commission. Been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill on Third, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 666, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Commerce Commission. Third Reading of the Bill."

"We're waiting for the board to clear. Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. House Bill 666 as amended appropriates 14,000,815 point six dollars for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Commerce Commission. I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of House Bill 666. And on that question, the Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the 74  48th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1985 House. Not so much a question, but just a statement. If the Public Utility Reform Act passes, there are some provisions in that Act that will substantially change the Illinois Commerce Commission. If that happens, there could be a change in this budget. There could be a supplemental on this floor next fall, and I just wanted to give Members that notice."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 666 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 98 voting 'aye', 7 voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 667. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 667, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Liquor Control Commission. It's been read a second time previously."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill on Third."

"House Bill 667, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Liquor Control Commission. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. House Bill 667, as introduced, appropriates 1,087,400 dollars for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Liquor Control Commission. I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of House Bill 667. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall House 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 Bill 667 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 107 voting 'aye', 5 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 668. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 668, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Revenue. This Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendments #1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 were adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #6, offered by Representative Wolf and Churchill."

"Representative Wolf."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. Amendment #6 is simply the Amendment that adds the funding for the Office of Appraisals into the Department of Revenue budget, and I would ask for its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #6 to House Bill 668. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #6 to House Bill 668 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #7, offered by Representative Leverenz."

"Representative Leverenz." 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #7 would eliminate the Lottery Division's 11 vacant positions and would phase in the 55 new positions that they ask for in the FY '86 budget. The 11 positions are over and above the 55 positions. Total dollars involved, 570,000 dollars. I would move for the adoption of Amendment #7."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #7 to House Bill 668. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #7 to House Bill 668 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #9, offered by Representative Leverenz"

"Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #9, within the Department of Revenue, would eliminate the 24 vacancies that exist there and would phase in the six new positions that are looked for in the Property Tax Administration Division. And further, it would provide six month funding for 25 positions which are new for the Data Processing Hardware Conversion Project for which the Department cannot explain what it is and when it is going to happen. And I would move for the adoption of Amendment #8."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #8 to House Bill 668. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #8 to House Bill 668 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Barnes now asks leave for immediate consideration of House Bill 668 on Third Reading. Does the Lady have leave? Hearing no objections, the Lady... using the Attendance Roll Call, the Lady has leave. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 668, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Revenue. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. House Bill 668, as just amended, appropriates approximately 1,653,878,100 dollars for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Revenue including the Illinois State Lottery. I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of House Bill 668. And on that question, the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Hensel."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I have a question."

"Proceed."

"We just approved Amendment #6 that appropriates 431,409 dollars. If I recall, we just passed House Bill 362 that did the same thing. Does that mean we have appropriated now 862,818 dollars for that?"

"I would think not, Representative Hensel. At this point in the process, it will just be added as one... one time only. Right, Representative Wolf? I think he's just doing that to safeguard what his position is on this portion of this budget."

"Thank you."

"There being no further discussion, the question 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 is, 'Shall House Bill 668 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 77 voting 'aye', 30 voting 'no' and 4 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 669. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 663, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the State Labor Relations Board. Second Reading of the Bill. This Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendment #2 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"A Motion to table Amendment #2, by Representative Leverenz."

"Representative Leverenz."

"Withdraw Amendment #2."

"No, this a Motion to table Amendment #2. The chance you've been waiting for."

"This is it?"

"This is it."

"This is the one I had the false alarm about earlier. I would move to table Amendment #2. We have proved the good reasons why the agency needs the vehicles. They will not be used for personal use. Therefore, I would ask everyone to join me in the Motion to table Amendment #2, including the Sponsor of the Amendment."

"The Gentleman has moved to table Amendment #2 to House Bill 669. And on that question, the Lady from Cook, Representative Barnes."

"I would like to yield to the Sponsor of the Amendment, Representative Zwick." 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day

"Representative Zwick." May 29, 1985

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Representative Barnes. I have studied the issue and found that these... there is a need for this money in the budget, and I will agree to table the Amendment at this time."

"The question is, Shall Amendment #2 to House Bill 669 be tabled? All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is tabled. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Barnes now asks leave for immediate consideration of House Bill 669. Does the Lady have leave? Hearing no objection, using the Attendance Roll Call, the Lady has leave. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 669, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the State Labor Relations Board. Third Reading of the Bill"

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. House Bill 669 as amended and presented appropriates approximately 1,414,000 dollars to the State Labor Relations Board for Fiscal Year '86. I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of House Bill 669. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 669 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 89 voting 'aye', 23 voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the 80  48th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1985 Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 670. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 670, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Illinois Racing Board. This Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendments #1, 2 and 3 were adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative DeJaegher."

"Representative DeJaegher. Representative Leverenz, on the Amendment."

"He just walked out that door. His desire is to withdraw it, if we could just have him step back in by Representative Terzich."

"Representative Terzich, would you get Representative DeJaegher? He just stepped out the door. There he is. Representative DeJaegher, do you withdraw Amendment #4? Representative DeJaegher. Representative DeJaegher? Representative DeJaegher, Representative Leverenz indicates you want to withdraw Amendment #4. And he indicates that he does. The Amendment is withdrawn. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen..."

"Excuse me. Excuse me. Read the Bill a third time, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 670, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Illinois Racing Board. Third Reading of the Bill" 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. House Bill 670 as amended appropriates 7,144,700 dollars for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Racing Board. I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of House Bill 670. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 670 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 102 voting 'aye', 9 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 670 (sic - 671). Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 671, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Property Tax Appeal Board. This Bill had been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 vas adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 671, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Property Tax Appeal Board. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. House Bill 671 as amended appropriates 844,800 dollars for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Property Tax Appeal Board. I would ask for an 'aye' vote." 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 34th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day

"The Lady has moved for the May 29, 1985 passage of House Bill 671. And on that question, the Gentleman from Bureau, Representative Mautino."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Lady yield?"

"She will yield for a question."

"Is this the same Tax Appeal Board that's 11,000 cases Barnes: in arrears?" "Twelve thousand, I think, Representative."

"Thank you."

"The Gentleman from Fulton, Representative Homer."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates she will" "Representative Barnes, the appropriation, does it allow for the hiring of additional hearing officers for the Property Tax Appeal Board?"

"NO, Representative. We had cut two newly requested hearing officer positions, and the agency had agreed to the cuts and that reduction was 21,500 dollars." Homer: Barnes: hearing officers does "Do you know how many... How many the Property Tax Appeal Board have now?" that there were six until... was "About a dozen."

"It's my understanding there a supplemental appropriation last Session in order to add six new hearing officers?"

"Their budget was handled separately because they became independent. So, we had two different appropriations."

"So, you're... this appropriation would maintain the same number of hearing officers that were added last year?"

"Yes, Representative."

"Okay. Well, I hope it does that. Representative Mautino pointed out, and you answered, that there are 12,000 cases backlogged. And this has become a tremendous problem, and 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 I'm hearing from a number of my constituents who have filed complaints before their board of review and then taken the matter to the Property Tax Appeal Board and found out that their case wouldn't be scheduled for some two years after the original assessment and after they had already had to pay on the property tax bills. I would hope that we're providing a reasonable number of hearing officers so as to correct this problem. And is it my understanding... is it your understanding that we're doing this and this is an adequate appropriation in order to meet the backlog problem that they experience?"

"Well, Representative Homer, they do have the authorization to hire those additional hearing officers and, hopefully, they will."

"Thank you."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. To the Bill, first of all, both of the previous speakers are correct. The vacancies exist and they are funded, but the fact is that there are no freeze exemptions to actually put the people to work. So we can only support it the way it is."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 671 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 99 voting 'aye', 8 voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 7... rather, House Bill 672. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 672, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 the Department of Public Health, Governor's Council on Health and Physical Fitness and the Board of Trustees of the University of Illinois Division of Services for Crippled Children. This Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendments #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 and 8 were adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #9, offered by Representative DeJaegher."

"Representative DeJaegher. Withdraw Amendment #9. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #10, offered by Representative Bowman - Madigan and Bullock."

"Representative Bowman. Withdraw Amendment #10. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #11, offered by Representative Ropp."

"Representative Ropp. Withdraw Amendment #11. Are there any further Amendments."

"Floor Amendment #12, offered by Representative Ropp."

"Representative Ropp."

"Withdraw."

"Withdraw Amendment #12. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #13, offered by Representative DeJaegher."

"Representative DeJaegher"

"Move to adopt Amendment #13, Speaker."

"The Gentleman has moved to adopt Amendment #13 to House Bill 672. And on that question, is there any 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 discussion? There being no discussion ... The Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Would the Gentleman want to tell us what Amendment #13 does?"

"Representative DeJaegher."

"I would be glad to tell you what Amendment 13 does. Basically, Amendment 13 has us highly involved in cancer and cancer treatments. It increased the appropriation to 984,000. We have outstanding facilities in the State of Illinois. And, basically, through the implementation of this Amendment, we will have clinical trials which will be a study conducted with cancer patients to evaluate new treatment for patients with cancer. Experts state that this method of research, patient studies, is best to lead to finding the cost of possible cure for cancer. Currently, cancer patients are leaving the state to receive treatment. This will ensure the state of the art treatment is available to all residents of the State of Illinois. And I think we're all knowledgeable of the fact that we do have outstanding facilities in the State of Illinois. Second, it will detect cancer hotspots identification. It will locate places where cancer is occurring at a higher than expected rate. The population based tumor registry provides that the working tool for collecting information about new cancers in the state. This new data will be translated into computer grafts which will yield maps of areas having high rates of various cancer. It will also provide information on racial background of where these cancers develop. It's hopefully that the Cancer Society will reduce cancer deaths in the State of Illinois by the year 2000 in half. So, basically, this is why I would like to have the support of this Amendment."

"The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative... 86  48th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1985 Oh, excuse me. Representative Hastert, from Kendall."

"Yes, I want to complete another question here."

"Sure."

"Is there a... Is this backed by the American Cancer Society?"

"Representative.."

"Very much so."

"Are you sure?"

"Positive."

"Okay. Is there already an appropriation in for 492,272 dollars in this Bill already?"

"Yes. There was an appropriation for that. This will delete that amount. It will raise it to 984,000, Denny."

"So this is an add on. It's a doubling of what the appropriation was."

"Yes. We felt that there was a necessity for more money to be expended on that program than presently what we had."

"And this is a new program, correct?"

"No, this was their original request. It's not a new program. It's just supplying additional funding for them."

"But we have never funded this program before this year, is that correct?"

"That's correct, Denny"

"So, it is a new program from the point of view from the State of Illinois?"

"From the State of Illinois, yes."

"And was this in the Governor's budget?"

"No, it wasn't in the Governor's budget."

"Thank you."

"The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative McCracken."

"Point of order. I believe this, in effect, is an 87  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1985 Amendment to an Amendment and requires unanimous leave of the Body to be in consent... or to be in order, and I object thereto. It purports to amend the House Bill but makes reference to page and line numbers of Amendment #1 and, in fact, amends Amendment #1. I object. There is not unanimous leave. It's out of order."

"We'll look at the Bill, Mr. McCracken. The Gentleman from Lake, Representative Matijevich."

"Well, I think Representative McCracken knows that an Amendment to an Amendment is one... if we are considering an Amendment, then one offers an Amendment to that Amendment. That Amendment that he's referring to has already been adopted. So this Amendment is amending the Bill as amended. It is not amending an Amendment, and he is totally out of order."

"Representative McCracken, you are not totally out of order, but you are wrong on this particular case. To the Amendment, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Bowman."

"Yes, thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Let me see if I can explain the mechanics of this a bit. This is a proposal that was brought to us by the Illinois Cancer Council. They're original request was for around 900,000 dollars. It is a new program. Because it was a new program, our initial reaction was perhaps they would not be able to get the money cleared through the... all the channels and everything and flowing to the program before the end of the year so we cut them in half. That's the reason that the Committee adopted an Amendment for 400 and some thousand dollars. However, in the... in the meantime, we have become hopeful... we have reason to be hopeful that maybe, if this program goes through, that the money will be available sooner and so that is why 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 Representative DeJaegher is trying to restore the amount to the request from the Cancer Council. Lastly, in response to a question whether this was in the Governor's budget or not, no, it wasn't in the Governor's budget but it was on the editorial page of the Tribune. The Chicago Tribune is very strongly in favor of this, and I believe at least one of the Leaders on the other side of the aisle is very eager to see this Amendment adopted."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #13 to House Bill 672 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Representative Hastert, for what reason do you rise? There being no further discussion, have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 72 voting 'aye', 37 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. And Representative Mulcahey wishes to be voted 'no'. So there are 72 voting 'aye', 38 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. And the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #14, offered by Representative Bowman Madigan and Bullock."

"Representative Bowman. Withdraw Amendment #14, Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #15, offered by Representative Madigan Daniels Bowman Hastert,"

"Representative Daniels. Representative Bowman."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This particular Amendment addresses one of the most significant public health problems that we have ever had to face and, surely, the most significant public health issue of this Session and that is the salmonella epidemic. We have been concerned that the Department of Public Health 89  STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 did not have adequate resources to prevent another occurrence of this tragic epidemic. We have had many hours of hearings on this subject not only in the House Appropriations Committee, but in the Committee on State Government Administration. These proposals have been discussed with the Department of Public Health. Indeed, many of them originated with the Department of Public Health. And just quickly, let me run through them. We are adding 220,000 dollars to the Milk Program to increase the inspection rate of dairy farms, plants, manufacturers and bulk milk operators. We're adding 785,000 dollars to the laboratories to increase their equipment and testing capabilities, as well as head count. We are adding 238,000 dollars to the Communicable Diseases Control Program to more accurately investigate and control approximately forty communicable diseases. We are adding 586,000 dollars to the Local Health Department Information Network to improve communication capabilities between IDPH and the 71 local health departments. We are adding 230,000 dollars to the Retail Food Inspection Program to provide for five... to better coverage of the 5,000 retail food establishments serving areas where there are no local health departments."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #15 to House Bill 672. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Bullock."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. If the Clerk is correct and I'm a hyphenated Sponsor of this Amendment, Madam Speaker, I'd like to address the Assembly with regards to the importance of this Amendment. But I'd like to preface the remarks by saying that this Amendment originated as a result of the worst disaster in the history of the United States. I'm proud of the fact that Doctor Bernie Turnoc came to the Assembly and offered to make some changes in 90  48th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1985 the Department of Public Health that were long overdue. I want the Assembly to know that I do not believe that this Amendment will necessarily solve the problem in and of itself."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, please give the Gentleman your attention."

"It's unfortunate that some Members on that side of the aisle would like to make this a partisan issue. I assure you I'm not."

"Proceed, Representative Bullock."

"I certainly feel for the 17,000 people in our state that have suffered as a result of this outbreak. The Committee on State Government Administration, which I chair, is about to complete its assignment, the assignment that was given to us by the Speaker of this House well over six weeks ago, and the Speaker of this House asked us to investigate as best as possible, the circumstances surrounding the salmonella crisis, and to bring back to this Assembly recommendations for change and recommendations for improving the manner in which the state not only detects, but at which the state, in fact, examines, samples and examines evidence it receives from the food dairy division of the Illinois Department of Public Health. Dr. Bernard Ternoc sent us, several weeks ago, a recommendation for additional funding to the tune of 2.3 million dollars. The Committee that I chair has not made a decision as to whether or not we will accept in total, Dr. Turnoc's recommendation for more money for the Department of Public Health. I am certain that it is our belief that throwing good money at the situation does not resolve the problem that exists in the Department of Public Health. I can say for Members of the Assembly that you can anticipate within the next two and a half or three weeks, a 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 comprehensive and hopeful bipartisan report from the Committee on State Government Administration that will clearly bring to this chamber the facts as they have never been brought before this chamber before. But understanding the budgetary process, I rise in support of this Amendment, which will address a problem that has lingered in state government for well over a half a decade, and perhaps as old as a decade. So, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Assembly, I urge your 'aye' vote on Amendment 15, which is only a partial solution to a very complex and deep rooted problem in the Department of Public Health."

"The Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Madam Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen of this House. I just want to remind the Members on this side of the aisle, especially after Representative Bullock's enlightening speech, that this is an Agreed Amendment. Representative Ropp vas there, and this is a better milk Bill."

"The Gentleman from McLean, Representative Ropp."

"Madam Speaker, I was only going to say that probably the only person that has milked a cow on that State Government Administration Committee is one who supports this, and I think that... Do not be misled. This will not prevent another occurrence, by any means, but it should certainly help to reduce the severity, and I urge a vote."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #15 to House Bill 672 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #16, offered by Representative 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day Ropp and Bullock." May 29, 1985

"Excuse me. With regard to Amendment #13, the record should be corrected that that Amendment passed with 71 voting 'aye', 38 voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present'. Amendment #16. Representative Bullock. Excuse me, Representative Flinn. For what reason do you rise?"

"Well, Madam Speaker, I'd like to be recorded 'no' on the last Amendment. I got talked out of it. I was in favor of it to start with, but all these people who are going to appear on the 6:00 news, it's past 6:00. They can't make it, so record me as voting 'no', please."

"Your point is well taken, Representative Flinn. We are going to try to finish as quickly as possible this evening. Representative Bullock on Amendment #16."

"Well, Madam Chairman, the Amendment is filed under Ropp Bullock, but since Representative Ropp insinuated falsely that he has the golden hands that milked the cow, I'd like to let the Gentleman from, I guess it... "

"Representative Ropp."

"Madam Speaker, what this Bill does is to provide $200,000 for the purchase of a 'milkoscanometer' which actually will help determine the nutritive value of milk. Currently, milk is bought and sold on nutritional value, and we want to assure the public that they are receiving exactly what is so written on the carton and what you are purchasing."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #16 to House Bill 672. And on that question, is there any discussion? Representative Bullock."

"Thank you, Madam Chairman. Now, I'd like to speak to the Amendment, briefly. I'd just like the Gentleman from Normal to know that some of us are from the southern part of the United States, Representative Ropp, and I hail from the State of North Carolina. And my grandfather owned a 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 farm long before I came to the north. Not only did we have cows, which I milked, but we had tobacco and we had corn. And I know it may come as a surprise to you, but we did quite well on the farm, and I guess I join with you in saying that maybe four hands are better than two in milking that cow."

"The Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert."

"Just to make a comment, here. I don't think the Governor's budget is... has a place or was at least an appropriation here for 'milkoscano' machines, and it looks like it's something that Representative Ropp... Ropp has here for thick milk again, and I would ask for the defeat of this Amendment."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #16 to House Bill 672 be adopted? All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #17, offered by Representative Bowman and Soliz."

"Representative Bowman."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #17 makes no dollar change. It merely changes the caption of one of the line items to reflect legislation that's now moving through the General Assembly. It's cleared the Senate and the House Committee."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #17 to House Bill 672. And on that question, the Gentleman from McLean, Representative.. There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #17 to House Bill 672 be adopted? All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 94  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

Clerk O'Brien: "Floor Amendment #18, offered by Representative Deuchler."

"Representative Deuchler." "Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment 18 increases the public health budget by $30,000. It's a joint project with the Family Support Center of Aurora to provide sexual assault education and prevention services to school age children. This is the second year of this project, and will be the last year. It provides services with the Family Support Center and the Mutual Ground to do research, develop parent, school and community support and begin programs with school children."

"The Lady has moved for the adoption of Amendment #18 to House Bill 672. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the... Representative Hastert does wish to... "

"Would... Would you repeat? What does this Bill do, Representative?"

"It's a joint education project between the Family Support Center and Mutual Ground in the area of sexual abuse and assault."

"And it's on public aid..."

"No."

"Or public health?"

"Public health."

"There being no further... The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Bowman. There being no further discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #6... 18 to House Bill 1672 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are 95  48th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1985 there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments,"

"Third Reading. Representative Hastert now asks leave for immediate consideration of House Bill 672 on Third Reading. Are there any objections? Hearing no objections, using the Attendance Roll Call, the Gentleman does have leave. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. "

"House Bill 672, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Public Health, Governor's Council on Health, Physical Fitness and the Board of Trustees of the University of Illinois, Division of Services for Crippled Children. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The public aid... or, the Public Health Bill, as now amended, is for $198,726,630."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 672. And on that question, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Fulton, Representative Homer."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He will yield for a question."

"Representative Hastert, I think during the last three years, you've... you've been the lead Sponsor on the aprop. Bill for Public Health. Is that correct?"

"I think probably for the last two years, Representative."

"Alright. That's by virtue of your status as Minority spokesperson on the Aprop. II Committee?"

"That's correct."

"Have, any time during those years that you've been involved in the aprop. budget out of Public Health, has 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 there ever been an administration request for appropriation in Public Health that has been brought before the General Assembly which has been rolled back or refused?"

"I beg your pardon?"

"During the time that you've been associated or have been working on the Department of Public Health Appropriation Bill and the Department of Public Health Budget, has there been occasion, to your knowledge, where the administration Bill for Public Health has been reduced or refused by the Illinois General Assembly?"

"Yes, as a matter of fact, Representative, to the best of my recollection, last year there were several Amendments defeated, and I think in the year before, there were two Amendments defeated to the Bill."

"Alright. Did either of those Amendments have to do with the... with funding of the state laboratories or funding of the sanitarians in the State of Illinois?"

"We funded the labs at the administrative level."

"Alright. So, none of those Amendments and in fact, to your knowledge, the General Assembly has not, in recent memory, refused a request by the Department of Public Health, to increase funds for its state laboratories or for the hiring of sanitarians in the State Department of Public Health. Is that correct?"

"TO the best of my knowledge, there have not been any negative votes to that aspect."

"Alright. I thought I heard on a radio report recently, and that's perhaps not the best source of information, that Dr. Turnoc, in discussing the salmonella situation, was somewhat critical of the General Assembly for not providing adequate funds and resources for these items. Are you aware of whether that is, in fact, Dr. Turnoc's position?"

"I didn't hear that radio program." 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985

"Alright. Did you know if that's his position?"

"I didn't hear the program, so I'm not sure what the source is."

"Alright. And in fact, to your knowledge, there's never been a refusal by the General Assembly to fund those programs, is what you said earlier. Correct?"

"Well, I... we funded at the adminstration level, and to the best of my knowledge, the funding for the labs has been at the administration level."

"Alright. Notwithstanding the fact that for the past five or six years, there has been a vacancy rate in the number of sanitarian positions in the State of Illinois of 35 percent, and in fact, in Cook County, there were four out of eight sanitarian positions left vacant for that period, and in DuPage, there were five out of nine left vacant during that period. Let me just finally... I noticed one peculiarity that differentiates this appropriation Bill from some of the others is that in the exactness or the exactitude of the dollar amount requested. I think all of the others are rounded off to the nearest hundred, if not thousand, dollars. This Bill actually is broken down to the nearest penny. It's all the way down to 93 cents. I was wondering if there was any significance to that."

"Well, to answer your first question, many of the vacancies in the Department of Public Health and other departments that we've dealt with, many times the appropriation processes had removals of vacancies on your side of the aisle - those initiatives - and sometimes on our side of the aisle."

"Well, as to the second... as to the question I just asked, the exactitude..."

"I answered your first question, Representative"

"Okay, as to that second question, what is your answer?" 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day

"I think we rounded it off Representative." May 29, 1985 to the 10 dollar level,

"Alright. Well, this is to the nearest cent, and I don't know. I was wondering if there was an explanation... "

"I think the Bill's been amended since then."

"I... Well, I knew that quite a bit of the Department of Public Health business vas conducted overseas. I know that, for example, during the salmonella crises, that one of the principals was over in Frankfort, Germany, and that the Director of the Department of Public Health was down in Hexico, and I was just wondering if... whether this odd figure had something to do with the foreign exchange rate that was in effect at the time."

"The Gentleman from... The Lady from Cook, Representative Wojcik."

"Yes, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. I normally don't do this, but I've sat back here, and I've totalled up the dollars in the Amendments alone for this Bill, and we're at $21,059,345. I just want the Assembly to remember this when we get to education, and we're going to start talking about raising the taxes. Let's start looking at what we're doing here in this area, and cut down costs. Maybe we ought to reconsider this Bill and vote against it."

Speaker Breslin: "There Representative being по Hastert to close. further discussion, Representative Hastert, do you have a close?"

"No. I just ask for your favorable vote."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 672 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 74 voting 'aye', 34 voting 'no', and 2 voting 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 673. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 673, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Employment Security. This Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Bullock."

"Representative Bullock. The Gentleman wishes to withdraw Amendment #2. Withdraw Amendment #2. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Bullock and Shaw."

"Representative Bullock."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #3 to House Bill 673 amends the Department of Employment Security. This Amendment originated out of a Appropriation Committee deliberations, at which time, the Director of the Bureau of Employment Security appeared, and in course of debate on the appropriation, it was commonly accepted and agreed upon by not only Members of the Committee that voted the Bill out, but by the Director herself, that if the state administration's negotiations with the federal administration were unsuccessful in restoring X number of dollars to the line item of personnel retirement and group insurance, that this Amendment would, in fact, be offered on the floor of the House. And so this Amendment transfers 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 34th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 $12,000,000 from the special administrative funds within the department to operations by distributing those funds through the personal services retirement and social security and group insurance. The Amendment also requests 12 million additional dollars from GRF to pay the UI compensation debt payment. This Amendment is intended to address the issue that we all are familiar with, with the devastating, austere and callous cuts within the department and the Bureau of Employment Security. I urge your support for this Amendment. If you are for increasing unemployment, then you'll vote 'no'. If you are for decreasing unemployment in the State of Illinois, you'll vote 'aye'. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #3 to House Bill 673. And on that question, the Gentleman from Livingston, Representative Ewing."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He will yield for a question."

"Does this... This is $12,000,000. Is that right, Representative?"

"Yes, Representative Ewing, it is."

"And is it all for salaries?"

"No, it's not."

"How much of it is for salaries?"

"I'd say something in the neighborhood of 75 to 80 percent."

"Our staff says that it's basically all for salaries. How many people is this for how many people employment?"

"Well, I would extrapolate that we're talking about saving 540 employees, Representative."

"Ladies and Gentlemen... One other question. Is this... Has this been approved by the Bureau of the Budget? The Governor requested this?" 101  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985

"I didn't hear the last part of your question."

"Has it been approved by the Bureau of the Budget, or has the Governor requested this?"

"Well, Representative Ewing, unlike you, I don't necessarily run all the proposals past the Bureau of the Budget, and I'm sure the Governor will accept it."

"And your answer would be 'no', if you were being truthful and up front."

"Well, Representative, I don't want to cast aspersions on the integrity of anyone on this floor..."

"You seem to be talking around the question. Madam Speaker?"

"Well, if you ask a specific question, Representative, I'll respond, but I don't want to cast any aspersion. That's certainly not part of my character, and I don't think it's part of yours, either."

"I did ask a specific question. Madan Speaker, to the Bill."

"Proceed."

"Yes. We have here an Amendment which the Sponsor would have us believe is necessary. It's not approved by the Governor's Office. It's not approved by the Bureau of the Budget. It's only $12,000,000, and it's for about 500 jobs, and now maybe not all of that is for salaries, but I can assure you that the percentage or amount per person, it would be much cheaper if we just wrote them a check. This is uncalled for, and I think should be soundly defeated."

"The Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays."

"Yes, would the Gentleman yield for a question, please?"

"He will yield for a question."

"Are these positions federally reimbursed?"

"I don't think that they are, Representative."

"Is there a way to make them federally reimbursed?" 102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1985 48th Legislative Day

"What's the last thing you said?"

"Is there a way to make them federally reimbursed?"

"Yes. That's exactly the point of this Amendment. Unlike the previous speaker, at least you have the sanity to look at the substance of the Amendment. The fact of the matter is, that is what the negotiations are about in Washington, D.C. right now. The Thompson administration is making every effort in Washington to try and get funds reimbursed for this very issue, which is the logic of this Amendment."

"Thank you very much. To the Amendment. It is my understanding that the Amendment, as drafted, is not technically correct and would not qualify us for reimbursement, that there is a possibility to get an Amendment that might be technically correct that we could qualify for reimbursement on, but in the meantime, if we adopt this, we will be expending $12,000,000 of General Revenue Fund with no chance for reimbursement, so for that reason, among those enunciated by the previous speaker on our side of the aisle, I would urge opposition to this Amendment."

"The Gentleman from Peoria, Representative Tuerk."

"Madam Speaker, Representative Mays just covered the points I was going to make. Thank you."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you. I won't ask a question of the Sponsor, but I will say this to the Bill... or the Amendment. Number one, the Governor does not ask us individually in our districts what we would like in terms of projects or what we need in terms of projects. He does not ask us how to shape the budget for the needs that we identify. The 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 gentleman that runs the Bureau of the Budget doesn't check with us before he says yes or no on anything, and our job is to reshape the budget as we see fit. In this case, I ask you all to take a special note to the director of this new state agency. The Lady explained in Committee that yes, indeed, there was an additional need for money to pay employees that serve those people in our districts that are unemployed, and indeed, the Thompson administration, who was specifically mentioned in trying to get the 12,000,000 from the feds. The director went on to say, 'Please don't put the Amendment on the Bill in Committee, because when I go to Washington, they will say, 'You don't need it from us. You have it from the state.' So we went along with her program. We explained to her that we would put it on the House floor at the appropriate time, and if they couldn't get it done in Washington, we would do it here, and that's the only reason the Appropriations Committee let the Bill out of Committee in the first place. So, to the Gentleman on the other side of the aisle that raises the question, 'Is it in the budget?' The answer is 'no'. Is it federally reimbursed for the other Gentleman on the other side of the aisle? Absolutely not. It's general revenue. Let's adopt the Amendment like the director agreed. Thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 to House Bill 673 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 55... 56 voting 'aye', 45 voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. Representative Ewing?"

"We'd like a verification."

"The Gentleman has asked for a verification of the Roll Call. Representative Bullock requests a Poll of 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 the Absentees. Representative Bullock, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Well, I didn't have a chance to close, and one of the things I want to say, which I think is rather important."

"Proceed. And then we will go to a verification of the Roll Call."

"Amendment #3 is supported enthusiastically by the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. They have, in fact, discussed this Amendment with several individuals in the administration. They feel very strongly about it, and as a result of their request, I'm proud to support the Amendment, and I'd urge more green votes."

"Proceed with the Poll of the Absentees, Mr. Clerk."

"Poll of the Absentees. Berrios. Capparelli. DeLeo. Giglio. Goforth. Klemm. Krska. Laurino. McAuliffe. Phelps."

"Representative Phelps wishes to be recorded 'aye'."

"Richmond."

"Richmond votes 'aye'. Representative Berrios votes 'aye'."

"Terzich. Weaver. White."

"Weaver votes 'no'. White votes 'aye'. Giglio votes 'aye'."

"Williamson."

"Williamson votes 'no'. What's the count?"

"And Wyvetter Younge and Mr. Speaker."

"What's the count, Mr. Clerk? Representative Ewing, there are 61 voting 'aye' and 47 voting 'no'. Do you still persist in your request for a verification?"

"Madam Speaker, we'll withdraw the verificaiton." 105  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day

May 29, 1985 On "The Gentleman withdraws the verification. this Amendment, there are 61 voting 'aye', 47 voting 'no', and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Barnes now asks leave for immediate consideration of House Bill 673 on Third Reading. Are there any objections? Hearing no objections, the Lady has leave by use of the Attendance Roll Call. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 673, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Employment Security. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. House Bill 673 as amended appropriates approximately 184 and a half million dollars to the Department of Employment Security for Fiscal Year '36. I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of House Bill 673. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 673 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 71 voting 'aye', 37 voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Mulcahey, do you wish to make an announcement? Representative Mulcahey."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would move and ask leave of the House to suspend the proper posting rule so that Senate Bill 1239 could be heard tomorrow morning..." 106  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985

"Give us that number again, please."

"1239."

"That's Senate Bill 1239."

"That's correct."

"The Gentleman has asked leave to suspend the posting rules so that Senate Bill 1239 culd be heard in his Education Committee tomorrow. And on that question, the Gentleman from Livingston, Representative Ewing."

"No, I want to be recognized after you're through with this, please."

"Gentlemen, do you want to be recognized on this Motion? No. Hearing no objection, does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing no objection, the Gentleman has leave. Representative.. The Representative from Macon, Representative Dunn."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise for the purpose of an Announcement. The House Judiciary I Committee will convene promptly tomorrow morning at 8:00 a.m. 8:00 a.m. Encourage all Members of House Judiciary I Committee to be there promptly so we can take care of business and adjourn promptly."

"Representative Preston, for an announcement."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'd ask leave of the House to hear... to waive the posting requirements for Senate Bill 755 which is assigned to the Transportation Committee so that we can hear that Bill next week. We are too late with the posting requirements..."

"Representative Preston has asked leave to  48th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1985

"Representative? Excuse me, Representative, it's not to... Madam Chair. It's not to hear the Bill tomorrow, but it's to hear it next week. Next Tuesday."

"Yes. To hear it next week, Tuesday, in the Transportation Committee. Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. I have no particular objection to hearing this Bill next Tuesday. However, we do have another week after this to have those Bills heard, and in the future, I'd appreciate you coming and checking with us in advance."

"Representative Preston."

"Thank you, Madam Chair. I mean no disrespect to the Minority Spokesman. I did check with the Chairman of the Committee, and I came to look for you. You were off the floor at a meeting, and that's why I didn't have an opportunity to speak to you, but I appreciate your assistance."

"Are there any objections to this Motion? Hearing no objection, the Gentleman has leave for Senate Bill 755 to be heard in Transportation next week. The Gentleman from Livingston, Representative Ewing."

"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I want to remind all the Members of the House that the Department of Transportation picnic is tonight, and it's still going on at the DOT building on the highway in the east side of town, and everybody's welcome."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Kulas, for an announcement."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Just wanted to remind the Members of the Energy, Environment and Natural Resources Committee that the Committee will meet at 11:00 in the morning tomorrow - Energy and Environment at 11:00."

"That's Energy and Environment at 11:00 108  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 tomorrow. Representative Keane."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Revenue will meet at 8:00 a.m. in 118. I'd ask all the Members to be present at that time. Thank you."

"The Revenue Committee will meet at 8:00 a.m. tomorrow. Representative Rea."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. The Select Committee on Economic Development will meet at 11:00 tomorrow, sharp. We are going to... We'd encourage everybody to be there on time, and it should not take very long."

"Economic Development meets tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. Representative Preston,"

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'd ask leave of the House to weigh the posting requirements in the Human Services Committee for Senate Bill 765, 77... 765, 775, 1430 and 1445 to permit those Bills to be heard next on Tuesday, before the Human Services Committee. I have checked with the Chairman and the Minority Spokesman, and they have no objection."

"The Gentleman has asked leave to waive the posting rule so that Senate Bill 765, 775, 1430 and 1445 can be heard in the Human Services Committee next week. Is there any objection? Hearing no objection, the Gentleman has leave. Representative Wolf."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. For purposes of an announcement, the Personnel and Pensions Committee will meet tomorrow morning at 11:00 in room C-1. Members please be prompt. We should be through in about 45 minutes."

"Representative McPike is recognized for the purposes of a Motion."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I move the House stand adjourned until tomorrow at the hour 12:00 noon, allowing the Clerk perfunctory time for Senate Bills First Reading." 109  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985

"The Gentleman has moved that this House stand adjourned until 12:00 noon tomorrow, allowing time for Perfunctory Session for the Clerk. All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and this House stands adjourned until 12:00 noon tomorrow."

"Committee Reports. Representative Steczo, Chairman of the Committee on Cities and Villages, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 29, 1985, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' Senate Bill 431; 'do pass Consent Calendar' Senate Bills 315, 354, 395, 498 and 560; 'do pass as amended Consent Calendar' Senate Bill 321; 'do pass as amended Short Debate Calendar' Senate Bill 505. Representative Preston, Chairman of the Committee on Consumer Protection, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 29, 1985, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' Senate Bill 297; 'do pass as amended' Senate Bill 148; 'do pass Short Debate Calendar' Senate Bill 517. Representative White, Chairman of the Committee on Human Services to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 29, 1985, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass as amended' Senate Bill 1183; 'do pass Consent Calendar' Senate Bills 98, 295, 696, 707, 839, 869, 880 and 1003; 'do pass as amended Consent Calendar' Senate Bill 828 and 956; 'Interim Study Calendar' Senate Bill 1238. Representative Ronan, Chairman of the Committee on Transportation and Motor Vehicles, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 29, 1985, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' Senate Bill 303, 495 and 605; 'do pass Consent Calendar' Senate Bill 243, 411 and 643; 'do pass as amended 110  48th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1985 Consent Calendar' Senate Bill 328; and 'do pass Short Debate Calendar' Senate Bill 492. Senate Bills First Reading. Senate Bill 89, Woodyard and Keane, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 288, W. Peterson, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1153, Harris, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to the supply and distribution of water. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1163, Currie, a Bill for an Act to amend the Structural Pest Control Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1164, Currie, a Bill for an Act in relation to fees for pesticide registration. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1165, Currie, a Bill for an Act to amend the... Structural Pest Control Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1190, Sutker, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1226, Cullerton, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unified Code of Corrections. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1256, Wait, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Income Tax Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1415, Hoffman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Messages Tax Act. First Reading of the Bill."

"Senate Bills First Reading. Senate Bill 342, a Bill for an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent and distributive expenses of the State Comptroller, Leverenz. Senate Bill 357, Keane, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Illinois Community College Board the Board of Trustees and the State Community College of East St. Louis for Fiscal Year 1986. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 360, Countryman, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Board of Regents. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 361, Matijevich, a Bill for an Act making certain appropriations to the Illinois State 111  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day Scholarship Commission. May 29, 1985 First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 362, Johnson, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Board of Trustees of the University of Illinois. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 383, Phelps, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Department of Transportation. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 397, Bowman, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Department of Public Health. Bill for an Act making Senate Bill 403, Leverenz, a appropriations to the Court of Claims. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 450, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Public School Teachers' Pension and Retirement Fund. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 451, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Central Management Services. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 452, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Capital Development Board. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 453, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Capital Development Board for permanent improvements, minor capital improvements, repairs and maintenance. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 454, Barnes, a Bill for an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Office of Lieutenant Governor. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 455, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Insurance. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 456, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Civil Service Commission. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 457, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making 112  03/12/85 13:43 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX PAGE 2 MAY 29, 1995 HB-0668 MOTION PAGE 78 HB-0669 SECOND READING PAGE 79 HB-0669 THIRD READING PAGE 80 HB-0669 MOTION PAGE 80 HB-0670 SECOND READING PAGE 81 HB-0670 THIRD READING PAGE 81 HB-0671 SECOND READING PAGE 82 HB-0671 THIRD READING PAGE 82 HB-0672 SECOND READING PAGE 84 HB-0672 THIRD READING PAGE 86 HB-0672 MOTION PAGE 96 HB-0673 SECOND READING PAGE 100 HB-0673 THIRD READING PAGE 106 HB-0673 MOTION PAGE 106 SB-0012 FIRST READING PAGE 7 SB-0014 FIRST READING PAGE 6 SB-0032 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0036 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0039 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0042 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0048 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0054 FIRST READING PAGE 31 SB-0055 FIRST READING PAGE 31 SB-0057 FIRST READING PAGE 31 SB-0060 FIRST READING PAGE 31 SB-0061 FIRST READING PAGE 31 SB-0062 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0077 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0089 FIRST READING PAGE 111 SB-0091 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0099 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0103 FIRST READING PAGE 7 SB-0109 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0134 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0145 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0167 FIRST READING PAGE 3 SB-0169 FIRST READING PAGE 7 SB-0173 FIRST READING PAGE 7 SB-0174 FIRST READING PAGE 3 SB-0175 FIRST READING PAGE 3 SB-0193 FIRST READING PAGE 3 SB-0200 FIRST READING PAGE 3 SB-0227 FIRST READING PAGE 4 SB-0282 FIRST READING PAGE 111 SB-0288 FIRST READING PAGE 111 SB-0293 FIRST READING PAGE 111 SB-0325 FIRST READING PAGE 4 SB-0342 FIRST READING PAGE 111 SB-0357 FIRST READING PAGE 111 SB-0360 FIRST READING PAGE 111 SB-0361 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0362 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0383 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0385 FIRST READING PAGE 115 SB-0387 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0403 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0450 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0451 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0452 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0453 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0454 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0455 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0456 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0457 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0458 FIRST READING PAGE 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 23, 1985 appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Labor. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 458, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Environmental Protection Agency. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 459, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the Environmental Protection Trust Fund Commission. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 460, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Industrial Commission. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 461, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Court of Claims. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 462, Hastert, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Arts Council. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 463, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Commissioner of Banks and Trust Companies. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 559, Johnson - Soliz, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to lease and board of trustees. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 464, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Registration and Education. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 465, Barnes, a Bill for an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Office of Governor. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 466, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Mines and Minerals. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 467, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs and making appropriations to certain other agencies. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 468, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Agriculture. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 469, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Crime Justice Information Authority. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 470, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Office of State Fire Marshall. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 471, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations... reappropriations to the Department of Transportation. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 472, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Department of Transportation. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 473, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Nuclear Safety. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 474, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Financial Institutions. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 475, Barnes, a Bill for an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Bureau of the Budget in Executive Office of the Governor. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 476, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Public Aid. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 477, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of Health Care Cost Containment Council. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 478, Barnes, a Bill for 114  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 48th Legislative Day May 29, 1985 an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Alcoholism and Substance Abuse. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 480, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Corrections. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 481, Barnes, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Law Enforcement. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 482, Hastert, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Veterans' Affairs. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 483, Hastert, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Governor's Purchase Care Review Board. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 496, Madigan, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Office of the State Treasurer. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 507, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the Illinois Development Authority... Finance Authority. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 523, Daniels, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Judicial Inquiry Board. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 552, Madigan, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to various legislative support agencies. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1217, Berrios - Ronan, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 385, Bowman, a Bill for an Act to add Sections to the Illinois Act on Aging. First Reading of the Bill. No further business. The House now stands adjourned until May 30 at 12:00 noon." 115  09/12/85 13:43 STATE OF ILLINOIS 34TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 29, 1985 PAGE 1 HB-0024 SECOND READING PAGE 11 HB-0024 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 15 HB-0143 SECOND READING PAGE 15 HB-0143 SECOND READING PAGE 34 HB-0143 THIRD READING PAGE 35 HB-0143 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 17 HB-0219 SECOND READING PAGE 17 HB-0219 THIRD READING PAGE 17 HB-0219 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 19 HB-0342 SECOND READING PAGE 19 HB-0342 THIRD READING PAGE 19 HB-0362 SECOND READING PAGE 32 HB-0362 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-0418 SECOND READING PAGE 36 HB-0418 THIRD READING PAGE 36 HB-0526 SECOND READING PAGE 40 HB-0526 THIRD READING PAGE 40 HB-0529 SECOND READING PAGE 42 HB-0529 THIRD READING PAGE 42 HB-0530 SECOND READING PAGE 43 HB-0530 THIRD READING PAGE 43 HB-0533 SECOND READING PAGE 44 HB-0533 THIRD READING PAGE 45 HB-3583 MOTION PAGE 45 HB-0641 SECOND READING PAGE 46 HB-0641 THIRD READING PAGE 46 HB-0651 SECOND READING PAGE 48 HB-0651 THIRD READING PAGE 49 HB-0652 SECOND READING PAGE 49 HB-0652 THIRD READING PAGE 49 HB-0652 MOTION PAGE 49 HB-0653 SECOND READING PAGE 50 HB-0653 THIRD READING PAGE 50 HB-0654 SECOND READING PAGE 51 HB-0654 THIRD READING PAGE 51 HB-0655 SECOND READING PAGE 53 HB-0655 THIRD READING PAGE 53 HB-0656 SECOND READING PAGE 54 HB-0656 THIRD READING PAGE 55 HB-0657 SECOND READING PAGE 55 HB-0657 THIRD READING PAGE 55 HB-0658 SECOND READING PAGE 56 HB-0658 THIRD READING PAGE 57 HB-0659 SECOND READING PAGE 58 HB-0659 THIRD READING PAGE 58 HB-0660 SECOND READING PAGE 59 HB-0660 THIRD READING PAGE 59 HB-0661 SECOND READING PAGE 59 HB-0661 THIRD READING PAGE 60 HB-0662 SECOND READING PAGE 60 HB-0662 THIRD READING PAGE 61 HB-0662 MOTION PAGE 61 HB-0663 SECOND READING PAGE 66 HB-0663 THIRD READING PAGE 66 HB-0664 SECOND READING PAGE 67 HB-0664 THIRD READING PAGE 72 HB-0664 MOTION PAGE 72 HB-0665 SECOND READING PAGE 73 HB-0665 THIRD READING PAGE 73 HB-0666 SECOND READING PAGE 74 HB-0666 THIRD READING PAGE 74 HB-0667 SECOND READING PAGE 75 HB-0667 THIRD READING PAGE 75 HB-0668 SECOND READING PAGE 76 HB-3663 THIRD READING PAGE 75  09/12/95 13:43 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX PAGE MAY 29, 1985 HB-0668 MOTION PAGE 79 HB-0669 SECOND READING PAGE 79 HB-0669 THIRD READING PAGE 80 HB-0669 MOTION PAGE 80 HB-0670 SECOND READING PAGE 81 HB-0670 THIRD READING PAGE 81 HB-0671 SECOND READING PAGE 82 HB-0671 THIRD READING PAGE 82 HB-0672 SECOND READING PAGE 84 HB-0672 THIRD READING PAGE 96 HB-0672 MOTION PAGE 96 HB-0673 SECOND READING PAGE 100 HB-0673 THIRD READING PAGE 106 HB-0673 MOTION PAGE 106 SB-0012 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0014 FIRST READING PAGE 7 SB-0032 FIRST READING PAGE 6 SB-0036 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0039 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0042 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0048 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0054 FIRST READING PAGE 31 SB-0055 FIRST READING PAGE 31 SB-0057 FIRST READING PAGE 31 SB-0060 FIRST READING PAGE 31 SB-0061 FIRST READING PAGE 31 SB-0062 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0077 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0089 FIRST READING PAGE 111 SB-0091 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0099 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0103 FIRST READING PAGE 7 SB-0109 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0134 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0145 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0167 FIRST READING PAGE 3 SB-0169 FIRST READING PAGE 7 SB-0173 FIRST READING PAGE 7 SB-0174 FIRST READING PAGE 3 SB-0175 FIRST READING PAGE 3 SB-0193 FIRST READING PAGE 3 SB-0200 FIRST READING PAGE 3 SB-0227 FIRST READING PAGE 3 SB-0282 FIRST READING PAGE 4 SB-0288 FIRST READING PAGE 111 SB-0293 FIRST READING PAGE 4 SB-0325 FIRST READING PAGE 4 SB-0342 FIRST READING PAGE 111 SB-0357 FIRST READING PAGE 111 SB-0360 FIRST READING PAGE 111 SB-0361 FIRST READING PAGE 111 SB-0362 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0383 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0385 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0387 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0397 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0403 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0450 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0451 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0452 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0453 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0454 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0455 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0456 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0457 FIRST READING PAGE 112 SB-0458 FIRST READING PAGE 113  09/12/95 13:43 STATE OF ILLINOIS 34TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATI IVES DAILY TRA ANSCRIPTION OF DE DEBATE INDEX PAGE 3 MAY 29, 1985 SB-0459 FIRST HEADING PAGE 113 SB-0460 FIRST READING PAGE 113 SB-0461 FIRST READING PAGE 113 SB-0462 FIRST READING PAGE 113 SB-0463 FIRST READING PAGE 113 SB-0464 FIRST READING PAGE 113 SB-0465 FIRST READING PAGE 113 SB-0466 FIRST READING PAGE 113 SB-0467 FIRST READING PAGE 113 SB-0468 FIRST READING PAGE 114 SB-0469 FIRST READING PAGE 114 SB-0470 FIRST READING PAGE 114 SB-0471 FIRST READING PAGE 114 SB-0472 FIRST READING PAGE 114 SB-0473 FIRST READING PAGE 114 SB-0474 FIRST READING PAGE 114 SB-0475 FIRST READING PAGE 114 SB-0476 FIRST READING PAGE 114 SB-0477 FIRST READING PAGE 114 SB-0478 FIRST READING PAGE 114 SB-0430 FIRST READING PAGE 115 SB-0481 FIRST READING PAGE 115 SB-0482 FIRST READING PAGE 115 SB-0483 FIRST READING PAGE 115 SB-0499 FIRST READING PAGE 4 SB-0496 FIRST READING PAGE 115 SB-0502 FIRST READING PAGE 7 SB-0507 FIRST READING PAGE 115 S3-0513 FIRST READING PAGE 4 SB-0522 FIRST READING PAGE 5 SB-0528 FIRST БЕADING PAGE 115 SB-0552 FIRST READING PAGE 115 SB-0559 FIRST READING PAGE 113 SB-0567 FIRST READING PAGE 5 SB-0632 FIRST HEADING PAGE 31 SB-0644 FIRST READING PAGE 5 SB-0648 FIRST READING PAGE 31 SB-0651 FIRST READING PAGE 5 SB-0658 FIRST READING PAGE 7 SB-0660 FIRST READING PAGE 7 SB-0670 FIRST READING PAGE 5 SB-0690 FIRST READING PAGE 5 SB-0729 FIRST READING PAGE 5 SB-0734 FIRST READING PAGE 7 SB-0750 FIRST READING PAGE 31 SB-0780 FIRST READING PAGE 7 SB-0814 FIRST READING PAGE 6 SB-0333 FIRST READING PAGE 31 SB-0848 FIRST READING PAGE 31 SB-0949 FIRST READING PAGE 31 SB-0939 FIRST READING PAGE 7 SB-0936 FIRST READING PAGE 5 SB-0998 FIRST READING PAGE 6 SB-1031 FIRST READING PAGE 5 SB-1032 FIRST READING PAGE 6 SB-1105 FIRST READING PAGE 5 SB-1129 FIRST READING PAGE 31 SB-1131 FIRST READING PAGE 5 SB-1153 FIRST READING PAGE 111 SB-1163 FIRST READING PAGE 11 SB-1164 FIRST READING PAGE 1 SB-1165 FIRST READING PAGE 111 SB-1174 FIRST READING PAGE 5 SB-1180 FIRST READING PAGE 111 SB-1192 FIRST READING PAGE 7  09/12/85 13:43 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 29, 1995 PAGE SB-1211 FIRST READING PAGE 7 SB-1215 FIRST READING PAGE 5 SB-1217 FIRST READING PAGE 115 SB-1226 FIRST READING PAGE 111 SB-1244 FIRST READING PAGE SB-1256 FIRST READING PAGE 111 SB-1267 FIRST READING PAGE 6 SB-1273 FIRST READING PAGE 6 SB-1278 FIRST READING PAGE 6 SB-1279 FIRST READING PAGE 6 SB-1350 FIRST READING PAGE SB-1352 FIRST READING PAGE 6 SB-1358 FIRST READING PAGE 7 SB-1360 FIRST READING PAGE 6 SB-1366 FIRST READING PAGE 6 SB-1367 FIRST READING PAGE 7 SB-1379 FIRST READING PAGE 6 SB-1397 FIRST READING PAGE 6 SB-1414 FIRST READING PAGE 7 SB-1415 FIRST READING PAGE 111 SB-1422 FIRST READING PAGE SB-1428 FIRST READING PAGE 7 SB-1434 FIRST READING PAGE 0 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER - REPRESENTATIVE BRAUN PAGE 1 PRAYER - REVEREND CLAUDE S. WYATT PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 REPRESENTATIVE MCPIKE IN CHAIR PAGE 2 RECESS PAGE 4 HOUSE RECONVENES - REP. MCPIKE IN CHAIR PAGE 3 ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 3 MESSAGES FROM SENATE PAGE 8 SENATOR ALAN DIXON PAGE 9 RECESS PAGE 31 HOUSE RECONVENES - REP. MCPIKE IN CHAIR PAGE 31 REPRESENTATIVE BRESLIN IN CHAIR PAGE 54 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 110 PERFUNCTORY SESSION PAGE 110 COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 110 PERFUNCTORY SESSION - ADJOURNMENT PAGE 115