"The hour of 12:00 having arrived, the House will be in Session. The Chaplain for today will be Father Charles Skach, Pastor of St. Odillo Church of Berwyn. Father Skach is the guest of Representative Jack Kubik. Will the guests in the gallery please rise and join us in the invocation? Father?"
"Almighty God, You have created all of us in Your own image, and in Your boundless love, have ennobled us all to become Your children, to share Your power, Your wisdom and Your love, that together we may renew the face of the earth. In Your gracious providence, You grant us leaders to promote justice and mercy that we may live in prosperity and peace. Bless Your servants, the Members of this House. Grant them Your spirit of wisdom, a spirit of justice always tempered by mercy, a spirit of understanding and fortitude, and a spirit of joy in their work. Grant that they may ever seek the good of all whom they have been commissioned to serve, and never stray from your ways of righteousness. May they ever seek only what is right and just, never being deceived or led astray by the corruption of self seeking or self service. Faithful to Your law, may they ever work for our good, that the riches of Your creation be our common possession according to Your will. And after they have served You faithfully here on earth, may they hear your words, 'Well done, good and faithful servants. Enter now into the joy of your Lord.' With boundless confidence in Your goodness, we ask all of this from You, our God and Father. Amen."
"Representative Ropp will lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag."
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
"Roll Call for Attendance. Mr. Clerk, take the record. 118 Members having responded to the Roll Call, a quorum is present. All Members are present. Committee Reports."
"Representative Leverenz, Chairman of the Committee on Appropriations I, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken June 18, 1985, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' Senate Bills 306, 463, 465, 480 and 496; 'do pass as amended' Senate Bills 342, 454, 460, 466, 471, 474 and 475."
"Page 30 of the Calendar, Consent Calendar Second Reading."
"Consent Calendar Second Reading, Second Day. Senate Bill 9, a Bill for an Act to amend the Uniform Criminal Extradition Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 31, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 53, a Bill for an Act to amend the Physical Fitness Service Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 74, a Bill for an Act to amend the Child Passenger Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 92, a Bill for an Act providing for the establishment of the Illinois Mathmatics and Science Academy, together with Committee Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 111, a Bill for an Act to amend the Senior Citizens' and Disabled Persons' Property Tax Relief and Pharmaceutical Assistance Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 123, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 158, a Bill for an Act to provide for the organization and operation of county historical museum districts, together with Committee 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 180, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code, together with Committee Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 202, a Bill for an Act in relation to alcoholism and substance abuse, together with Committee Amendment #1 and 2. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 212, a Bill for an Act to amend the Retailers' Occupation Tax Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 218, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Income Tax Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 229, a Bill for an Act to amend the Burial of Indigent Veterans' Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 248, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Lottery Law. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 310, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 315, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code, together with Committee Amendment #4. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 404, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Income Tax Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 414, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act, together with Committee Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 419, a Bill for an Act to amend the Motor Fuel Tax Law. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 447, a Bill for an Act concerning the compensation of individuals for self employment related injuries, disabilities and illnesses. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 448, a Bill for an Act to amend the General Obligation Bond Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 497, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 489, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 501, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to bonds of contractors entering into 3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 contracts for public construction. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 513, a Bill for an Act in relation to the filing date for returns for certain state taxes. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 576, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Horse Racing Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 597, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code, together with Committee Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 613, a Bill for an Act relating to Fox Valley Park District. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 681, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 728, a Bill for an Act concerning establishment of standards through adminstrative rules. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 729, a Bill for an Act in relation to certain state regulatory agencies. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 733, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to state finance. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 742, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Horse Racing Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 748, a Bill for an Act in relation to retailers, servicemen and suppliers maintaining a place of business in Illinois. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 758, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Athletic Trainers' Practice Act, together with Committee Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 793, a Bill for an Act in relation to state finance. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 817, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Horse Racing Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 823, a Bill for an Act relating to Military and Naval Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 836, a Bill for an Act to punish... to punish fund (sic - fraud) or extravagance in the expenditure of monies appropriated for public improvements. Second Reading of 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 the Bill. Senate Bill 839, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Property Control Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 850, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Controlled Substance Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 858, a Bill for an Act to amend the Child Labor Law. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 865, a Bill for an Act in relation to conveyance of public land. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 866, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Horse Racing Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 870, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning the rule making authority of the Department of Conservation. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 903, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code, together with Committee Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 995, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code and an Act to create the Minority and Female Business Enterprise Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1005, a Bill for an Act in regard to Attorneys General and State's Attorneys. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1039, a Bill for an Act to amend the Beer Industry Fair Dealers' Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1091, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code, together with Committee Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1104, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1106, a Bill for an Act to amend the Secretary of State Merit Employment Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1151, a Bill for an Act in relation to swimming pool safety. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1193, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to firearms and firearm ammunition. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1204, a Bill for an Act to amend the Trust and Trustees Act. Second Reading of the 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Bill. Senate Bill 1279, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Libraries Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1338, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Officers and Employees Money Disposition Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1366, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning purchase contracts. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1367, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to state finance. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1413, a Bill for an Act to amend the Uniform Disposition of Unclaimed Property Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1429, a Bill for an Act to amend the Juvenile Court Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1454, a Bill for an Act concerning the Department of Law Enforcement. Second Reading of the Bill."
"Third Reading. Page 35 of the Calendar, Consent Calendar Third Reading, Second Day."
"Consent Calendar Third Reading, Second Day. Senate Bill 18, a Bill for an Act to amend the Real Estate License Act. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 136, a Bill for an Act relating to the Veterinary Medicine and Surgery Practice Act. Second Reading... Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 170, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the practice of podiatry. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 177, a Bill for an Act in relation to county zoning. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 246, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relation to recorders. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 286, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 322, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to compensation of sheriffs, coroners, county treasurers, county clerks, recorders and auditors. Third 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 338, a Bill for an Act in relation to tuition-free courses for senior citizens who attend public institutions of higher education. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 348, a Bill for an Act to revise the law in relation to fences. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 366, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 554, a Bill for an Act to amend the Real Estate License Act. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 577, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Notary Public Act. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 655, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 673, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to the control of travel by state personnel. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 674, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 675, a Bill for an Act making confidentiality requirements governing state agencies applicable to data centers and electronic data processing contractors. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 676, a Bill for an Act in relation to state finance. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 677, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Property Control Act. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 678, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Emergency Services and Disaster Agency Act. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 679, a Bill for an Act relating to the St. Louis Metropolitan Airport Authority Act. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 682, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 683, a Bill for an Act to amend the Dental Practice Act. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 686, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 795, a Bill for an Act to 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 amend the Liquor Control Act. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 812, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pesticide Act. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 815, a Bill for an Act creating the Energy and Natural Resources Act. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 929, a Bill for an Act to amend the Medical Practice Act. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 941, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Employees' Group Insurance Act. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 951, a Bill for an Act to amend the law concerning the maintenance of dental records by the Department of Law Enforcement. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 860, a Bill for an Act to amend the Carnival and Amusement Ride Safety Act. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 974, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Clinical Laboratory Act. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 976, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to salvage warehouses and salvage warehouse stores. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 877, a Bill for an Act to amend the Structural Pest Control Act. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 891, a Bill for an Act to amend the Pharmacy Practice Act. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 909, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1053, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1322, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to the Board of Higher Education. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1398, a Bill for an Act to revise various Acts to resolve multiple Amendments and additions to correct technical errors and other patent errors and omissions to revise cost references to delete obsolete and duplicative provisions. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1462, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the licensing of various 8 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 professions by the Department of Registration and Education. Third Reading of the Bill. Correction. I said Senate Bill 922, and it should have been Senate Bill 322, amends an Act in relation to compensation of sheriffs. Third Reading of the Bill."
"These Bills will be called for a vote later in the afternoon. During the afternoon, of course, you will have an opportunity to remove Bills from the Consent Calendar. For what purpose does the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Keane, seek recognition?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like leave to take..."
"Excuse me, Mr. Keane. Excuse me. I'd like to have the aisles cleared, please. We are in Session, Ladies and Gentlemen. I'd like the aisle cleared. We have with us Commissioner 'Lawry and Vaughn' of the 'Live Report' here. For what purpose does the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Keane, seek recognition?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would ask leave to take Senate Bill 513, which is on page 31 of the Consent Calendar Second Reading, off Consent Calendar for purposes of an Amendment."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Keane, asks leave of the House to return Senate Bill 513, which is on Consent Calendar Third Reading, to the Order of Second Reading. Does the Gentleman have leave? You have leave. Leave is granted. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Are there any Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"
"Senate Bill 513, a Bill for an Act in relation to the filing date for returns of certain state taxes. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Floor Amendments."
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Keane." 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Keane, on Floor Amendment 1."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. All Floor Amendment #1 does is say that the Act takes effect January 1, 1986. I've cleared this with the Republican spokesman and would ask for adoption of Amendment #1."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Keane, moves for the adoption of Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 513. Those in favor... Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Keane, do you have... Yes, Mr. Keane."
"Mr. Speaker, could I have leave to leave that on the Consent Calendar?"
"The Gentleman asks leave of the House to return this to the Order of Consent Calendar Third Reading, Second Day... Second Reding... Second Reading, Second Day. Does the Gentleman have leave? You have leave, using the Attendance Roll Call. Ladies and Gentlemen, it is the intention of the Chair to go to the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading on page 24, and to begin where we left off yesterday. That would be with Senate Bill 1008. Mr. Bowman, for what purpose do you seek recognition? Alright. For no purpose. Mr. Clerk, on the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1008. Mr. Homer? Out of the record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1009. Mr. Mays? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1009, a Bill for an Act to amend 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Sections of an Act concerning public utilities. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1010. Out of the record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1018. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1018, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act creating the Department of Children and Family Services. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Bowman."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman, on Floor Amendment #1."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Amendment was prepared for me by the Department of Children and Family Services, which the Bill affects, and it is basically a technical Amendment to satisfy some of their problems with the Bill. It doesn't make any substantive change in the Bill. I move adoption of Amendment #1."
"The Gentleman from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1018. And on that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Piel."
"I'm sorry, Mr. Speaker. With the noise level in here, we couldn't hear, you know, what the Amendment does. Would the Sponsor please, you know, repeat what it does? And also, a question of the Clerk. Has this been printed and distributed yet?"
"I'm advised that the Amendment has been printed 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 and distributed, Mr. Piel. Mr. Bowman?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The underlying Bill authorizes the Department to operate an emergency shelter program for homeless youth who are under the age of 18 years old. The Amendment simply is clarifying. It doesn't make substantive changes in the underlying Bill. It's only a paragraph long. The Bill is only a paragraph long. Want me to read it?"
"Mr. Piel?"
"It was distributed yesterday."
"I've seen... You say it's only a paragraph long. I've seen one line with hundreds of millions of dollars in it, but I will take your word for it, Representative Thank you."
"Further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted? All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1019. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1019, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Housing Development Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Speaker Madigan in the Chair."
"Ladies and Gentlemen, if I could have your attention for a few moments, we have a special presentation to make today to a very long time friend of the House of Representatives and the Legislature, and a very long time 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 friend of all of us. So... So all of us have been honored by the friendship that we've had with former Representative Pete Miller. Pete served as a Member of the House when I first arrived in 1971. He tells me that he was first elected as a Member of the Legislature in 1947... 1945, and from that point forward, he has been responsible for arranging the annual Senate-House softball game, which will be tonight, and which acts as a form of financial support for the youth of the Springfield area. And I know that on a very personal basis, I certainly appreciate all of the untiring efforts that Pete has given on behalf of the softball game, but in addition to that, you all know that Pete is just a very good friend. So as he discharges his duties around the Legislature today, you know that if there are problems or concerns that you encounter in the discharge of your duties as a State Representative, Pete Miller is always right there, willing and able to be of assistance and to help. And so, at this time, I would like to present Pete with this plaque which reads that past and present colleages of the Illinois General Assembly... could we discontinue the caucus? And the unauthorized personnel please leave the floor. And any other unauthorized personnel, please leave the floor. It's at this point in the Session that these... this becomes a serious problem. Back to the plaque. 'Past and present colleagues of the Illinois General Assembly, joined by Springfield Recreation Department and the hundreds of youths who have benefitted from the Senate-House softball game, express our gratitude to the honorable Peter J. Miller for tireless efforts making this rite of spring a continuing success. Presented this 19th day of June, 1985.' Signed by the four Legislative Leaders and Governor Thompson. So, Peter, congratulations." 13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"When I came down here in 1970, Pete put me on the softball team, and as he left, he told me to carry on. And I've been trying to do that over the years, and Roger McAuliffe and I, and now Gordon Ropp has joined me, and we promise to continue in that fashion, to have a game against the Senate every year and try to bring the winning team back to the House each year. And I'd like to make a presentation to the Speaker. Every year, we... Lee, would you come up here? We have yours, too. We'd like to make a presentation to the Speaker with our 'Mr. Speaker' shirt, which has got to be a tradition. I think I'll... I think I'll let Gordon make the presentation to his Leader."
"Very good. It's our pleasure to present this shirt to the Leader of the Illinois House, Lee Daniels, here. And it just fits."
"And now, we'd like to hear from Pete Miller."
"Thank you. Thank you. I'm very happy that my wife is up in gallery. You know, we used to get paid once every four years when I was first elected. My wife would come down here the first day and get the full four years' salary, and then she wouldn't come back for four more years later. But seriously speaking, this is one honor. My heart is with this House. It always has been, although I served eight years in the Senate, and over there it's a closed club and all that sort of thing, but here the House is open. It's wonderful. What you do for the kids of Springfield is felt. Springfield has the lowest juvenile percentage record of any major city in the country, because you keep these youngsters busy in their leisure time, like that wonderful ball park that labor and the House-Senate money built, those youngsters are doing something all day long at that ball park. It's out there at the old brick yard. And that's just one accomplishment. When the fire 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 happened in Effingham, Illinois, the hospital, the nuns were rebuilding the hospital, we ran a game between the Senate and the House and made $13,000, and that was given to the good sisters. And after that, Joe 'Goldblatt', who is the chairman of the eradication of TV, we raised a game between the Aldermen of Chicago - $5,000. Now that is the type of things that can be done not only remembering in your busy time, all these youngsters in Springfield. We all must remember they're the future citizens of this country, and I hope that you and I won't forget. I was 76 years of age Sunday. I don't know how many more I can go on, but Ralph Capparelli will do the job, and I want to thank the Speaker and the Governor and all those for this plaque. You know, it will be just closest to my bed. When I open my eyes in the morning, I'll see it and I'll think of all of you. Thank you."
"That's right. Pete Miller is also represented by our distinguished colleague Lee Daniels, and we're delighted for that. Let me also invite the Members of the House to the House-Senate softball game tonight that will occur immediately after adjournment at Iles Park, which is at 6th and Ash Street, I believe, and you know that we have never lost to that other Body, and we want to assure you that we will maintain that continued, longstanding tradition tonight, even though we haven't had a practice, and the Senate's had two or three practices, and even though they've broken two or three of their fingers, I think we'll be able to equalize them by at least 15 runs or better. So, we urge you all to get out there immediately after we adjourn. Thank you very much."
"And Pete forgot to mention that the lights at Chamberlain Park were donated by the electrical workers of Illinois." 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Representative Greiman in the Chair. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1021. Excuse me. Yes, for what purpose does the Gentleman from Livingston, Mr. Ewing, seek recognition?"
"I was certainly pleased to find out who put up the lights at the park. Did they put up the lights at Wrigley Field."
"Not yet."
"Not yet. Thank you."
"So, on the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1021. Mr. Hastert? Out of the record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1029. Out of the record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1032. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1032, a Bill for an Act to provide for legal assistance to Illinois farmers. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1036. Mr. Keane. Out of the record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1037. Mr. Keane? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1037, a Bill for an Act in relationship to property tax levy collection and payment in all counties. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments." 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"And the State Mandates Fiscal Act Note has been filed. Is that correct?"
"Mandate's Act Fiscal Note has been filed."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1047. Mr. LeFlore? Out of the record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1055. Mr. Hoffman? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1055, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1056. Out of the record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1060. Mr. Preston. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1060, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to the Military and Naval Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments."
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1063, Mr. Keane. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1063, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Income Tax Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"There are none."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1064. Out of the 17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1073. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1073, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to offenses involving the operation of vehicles. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1077. Out of the Record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1082. Mr. McAuliffe? 1082, Mr. McAuliffe. Would you like the Bill read? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1082, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions with respect to Amendment #1."
"There are no Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1090. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1090, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1095. Out of the Record. On the 18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Order of Senate Bills Second Reading... Alright. We had passed over Senate Bills Second Reading, Senate Bill 1029. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1029, a Bill for an Act in relationship to enterprise zones. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Motions filed. Floor Amendment #2, McNamara, amends Senate Bill 1029."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. McNamara."
"Amendment #2 is merely a technical correction. It renumbers the Section 7 as Section #4."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. McNamara, moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1029. Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' I'm sorry, Mr. Woodyard. Yes? The Gentleman from Edgar, Mr. Woodyard, on Amendment #2."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"Indicates he'll yield for a question."
"Representative, would you run through that Amendment again? You're amending... This is an enterprise zone Bill, and what does your Amendment do?"
"Yes, what the Amendment does - and I'll read it - It... amends Senate Bill 1029 by renumbering Section 7 as Section 4. What has happened is, it was just a technical Amendment in the drafting where the Bill was put into the wrong Section. It is now taken as Section 7 and renumbered."
"It has nothing to do with adding or deleting enterprise zones."
"Nothing at all."
"Okay." 19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Okay. Further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears... appears Senate Bill 1103. Appears... On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1102. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1102, a Bill for an Act to amend the Business Corporation Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Alright. The Sponsor asks leave of the House for the Bill to remain on the Order of Second Reading. The Gentleman has leave. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1103. Mr. Davis? Mr. Davis? Out of the Record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1119. Mr. Terzich? Out of the Record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1121. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1121, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Amendments with respect to... I'm sorry. Any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"
"There are no Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1123. Mr. Laurino? Mr. 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1123, a Bill for an Act to amend the Juvenile Court Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1127. Out of the Record. On the Order of... Well, let's see now. Turner says, 'Out of the record.' Braun says, 'Go with it.' Yes? Out of the Record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1129. Ms. Braun? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1129, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Saltsman, amends Senate Bill 1129 on page..."
"The Gentleman from Peoria, Mr. Saltsman, on Amendment #1. The Clerk advises me, Ms. Braun, that the Amendment that Mr. Saltsman is offering has not been printed and delivered. So, want to take it out of the record? Put Ms. Braun on."
"This Bill is ready to go to Third Reading, Mr. Speaker. I have not had any discussions with the Sponsor of the Amendment, and I'd just as soon have it go to Third Reading at this time."
"Mr. Saltsman, what's your pleasure, Sir?"
"Yes, I'll withdraw that Amendment, please."
"Alright. The Amendment is withdrawn. Amendment #1 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments." 21 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1133. Mr. Tate? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1133, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act prohibiting local governments from regulating hunting and fishing. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Zwick, amends Senate Bill 1133."
"The Lady from Kane, Ms. Zwick. Alright. I am advised that this is not printed either. Mr. Tate, do you wish to take this out of the record? We'll try to get back to it. It'll be printed. When the Clerk tells me it's printed, we'll get back to it sometime. Alright. Out of the Record. The Gentleman from Will, Mr. Davis, having arrived on the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1103 Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. 1103."
"Senate Bill 1103, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1136. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.
"Senate Bill 1136, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?" 22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"There are none."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1156. Ms. Braun, 1156. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1156, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to job training. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"There are none."
"Third Reading. Alright. On the... Again, on page 25 of the Calendar on Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1163. Ms. Currie, 1163. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1163, a Bill for an Act to amend the Structural Pest Control Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"There are none."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1164. Out of the Record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1165. Out of the Record. On the Order of Senate Bills, 1166. Mr. Phelps. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. 1166."
"Senate Bill... Senate Bill 1166, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Emergency Services and Disaster Agency Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. For what purpose does the 23 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Gentleman from DeWitt, Mr. Vinson, seek recognition?"
"Parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker. Is..."
"Make your inquiry."
"I beg your pardon?"
"Yes, make your inquiry."
"Senate Bill 1166 on the board right now. Is that the earthquake preparedness Bill?"
"I don't read the Bills until I'm required to, Mr. Vinson. Alright. On page 26 of the Calendar, Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1171. Out of the Record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1185. Mr. Soliz. Mr. Soliz? Out of the Record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1188. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1188, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"There are none."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1212. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1212, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Berrios, amends..."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Berrios, on Amendment #1."
"Amendment #1 merely puts the Bill in the proper perspective, and it's an Amendment that the Committee had requested I put on there."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Berrios, moves for 24 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1212. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendment?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1213. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1213, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"The... Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Berrios, amends Senate Bill 1213."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Berrios."
"Again, this is an Amendment that was requested by the Committee. It simply puts the Bill in proper perspective and makes it apply to Chicago only. I would ask for the adoption of Amendment #1."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Berrios, moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1213. Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1214. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1214, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"There are none."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1215. Mr. Young? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1215, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois School Student Records Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"There are none."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1217. Out of the Record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1218. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1218, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to create the Educational Partnership Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Berrios, amends Senate Bill 1218."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Berrios, on Amendment #1."
"Amendment #1 simply takes care of some of the problems that some of the Committee Members had on it. It makes it permissive."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Berrios, moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1218. Is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Piel."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Will the Gentleman yield for a question?"
"Indicates that he will."
"Representative, the way the Bill stands now, and then 26 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 after the Amendment is put on - correct me if I'm wrong - the way that it stands now - is this just for the City of Chicago, or is it for the entire state?"
"I think it's for the entire state, but there is a couple more Amendments coming to this Bill."
"Okay. Now, the way it stands without the Amendment, it's for the entire state, and then once the Amendment goes on, then it just deals with just the City of Chicago. Am I correct, or am I reading something into it?"
"I believe this was supposed to be for the entire state, but I'll check, and before I move it, I'll, you know, get back to you."
"Yeah, because the question I had, it authorizes, instead of requires, the Chicago Board of Education to establish peer assistance programs, which would, to me, unless I'm misreading it, it would change the Bill around to make it significant just for the City of Chicago instead of the entire state. So, you're going to hold this thing on Second Reading and then..."
"Right."
"Fine. Thank you."
"Further discussion? The Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Mulcahey."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"Indicates he'll yield for a question."
"Representative Berrios, I don't know if you just explained the Amendment or not, but you alluded to the fact that there was some problem as far as the Committee was concerned, and this Amendment takes care of that. What..."
"No, there's... There's another Amendment coming. That was the part of the... There's another Amendment coming that says... will correct that class felony."
"Yeah." 27 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"It's going to make it a class A. That's coming."
"Okay. What does this Amendment do?"
"It makes it permissive."
"Thank you."
"Further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Yes, Mr. Berrios? Do you wish this held on... held on the Order of Third Reading? Leave of the House to hold this Bill on the Order of Second Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1224. Ms. Stern? Out of the Record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1229. Out of the Record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1237. Ms. Oblinger? Out of the Record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1243. Ms. Satterthwaite? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1243, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to mental health education. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. Alright. We passed over Senate Bill 1185, which appears on the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. 1185."
"Senate Bill 1185, a Bill for an Act to amend the Hospital Licensing Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?" 29 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"There are none."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1244. Mr. Homer? 1244. Yes, Mr. Homer. Read the Bill..."
"No..."
"Question? Oh, yes."
"Mr. Speaker?"
"Yes?"
"Perhaps I could make a parliamentary inquiry. I noted in the Calendar my name is on that Bill. However, my records show that the actual Sponsors are Cullerton and McCracken, and that my name is not listed as a principle Sponsor. What does the Clerk's Office show?"
"We're going to check it. The terminal shows that you are the principle Sponsor, Mr. Homer. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1244, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to offenses involving the operation of vehicles while under the influence of alcohol or other drugs. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"There are none."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1260. Mr. Mays. Mr. Mays, 1260? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1260, a Bill for an Act in relationship to oil and gas drilling. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"There are none."
"Mr. Mays, for what purpose do you seek recognition? Mr. Mays. Mr. Mays, your microphone 29 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 apparently... Mr. Hastert's."
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I just want to make it clear to the Members of the chamber that we will be bringing this Bill back for an Agreed Amendment from Third Reading, if you would move it to that, that Mr. Hicks will be sponsoring later on this week."
"Do you wish to stay on the Order of Second Reading, or you want to move it to Third? Alright. Move it to Third Reading. Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1262. Mr. Cullerton? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1262, a Bill for an Act creating the Sexual Abusers of Children Treatment Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"There are none."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1265, Ms. Oblinger. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1265, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Highway Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"There are none."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1266. Mr. Stephens. Mr. Churchill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1266, a Bill for an Act to amend the Radiation Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1 and 2 were adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions with respect to Amendments #1 and 2?"
"No Motions filed." 30 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1267. Mr. Hoffman? Read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1267, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Hoffman, amends Senate Bill 1267 on page two."
"The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. Hoffman, on Amendment #1."
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 does a simple thing on line two on page two. It strikes the word 'public' in terms of institutions of higher learning. So, as it's now amended, it applies to all institutions of higher learning, and I would ask for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1267."
"The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. Hoffman, has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1267. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendment?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1272. Ms. Didrickson, 1272? Out of the Record? On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1273. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 31 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Senate Bill 1273, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to certain cigarette taxes. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"There are none."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1278. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1278, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"There are none."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1281. Mr. McCracken? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1281, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"There are none."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1293, Mr. Young. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1283, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"There are none."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1294. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1284, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act 32 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 relating to the adoption of children. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Floor Amendments."
"There are none."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1286. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1286, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Floor Amendments? Any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Regan, amends Senate Bill 1286."
"The Gentleman from Will, Mr. Regan, on Amendment #2."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1286 is simply cleaning up some language requested by the Committee. I move for its adoption."
"The Gentleman from Will moves for the adoption of Amendment 2 to Senate Bill 1286. And on that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton."
"Yes, would the Gentleman yield for a question?"
"Yes."
"Well... Mr. Speaker?"
"Yes, Mr. Cullerton?"
"I asked if he would yield for a question."
"He indicates that he'll yield for a question."
"Representative Regan, this Bill was in the Judiciary II Committee. Is that correct?"
"Yes." 33 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"And did you present the Bill in Committee?"
"Yes."
"And was this an Amendment that was drafted by... As a result of some recommendations made by the Committee Members?"
"Yes, Sir."
"Do you recall who it is that drafted it? Was it your staff or our staff?"
"I believe it was our staff. Mr. McCracken."
"Okay. Thank you very much."
"Further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1287. Mr. Clerk. Mr. Regan, you're doing a lot of business today. Do you want that Bill called? Call the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1287, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions with respect to Amendment... the Amendments?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Alright. Yes, the Gentleman from Marion, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to ask for a 30 minute recess for the purpose of a Republican conference in room 118, immediately." 34 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Alright. The Gentleman from Marion, Conference Chair of the Republican side, has requested a conference for 30 minutes. There will be a Republican conference in room 118. Mr. Friedrich, we have a great deal of business, so we will begin promptly at 15 minutes after the hour of 2:00. The Chair will begin to operate business. So, the House will stand adjourned... I mean, stand in recess until the hour of 2:15, 2:15, for the purposes of a Republican conference. But we will begin promptly at 2:15."
"The House will be in order. Will unauthorized persons pleaseleave the floor? The House will be in order. Will unauthorized persons please leave the floor? Alright. Page 27... Page 27 of the Calendar, Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1289. Out of the Record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1298. Out of the Record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1303. Out of the Record. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1307. Mr. McCracken? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1307... "
"Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1307, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1312. Mr. Nash? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1312, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments." 35 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1318. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1318, a Bill for an Act to create the Illinois Private Activity Bond Allocation Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Greiman, amends Senate Bill 1318."
"Withdrawn. Withdrawn, right? Is that right, Mr. Keane? Mr. Keane asks for it to be withdrawn, and it will be withdrawn. Further Amendment?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading, page 28 of the Calendar appears Senate Bill 1321. Ms. Braun, 1321? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1321, a Bill for an Act to improve urban schools. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"There are none."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1325. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1325, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"There are none."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1337. Mr. Clerk, read 36 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1337, a Bill for an Act to amend the Hotel Operators' Occupation Tax Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"There are none."
"Third Reading. Ladies and Gentlemen, it is now the intention of the Chair to provide a Special Subject Matter Call, Second Reading, Environmental Protection Agency. And on that are three Bills, 658, 1351 and 1451, on that call. So, on the Order, Special Subject Matter Call on Environmental Protection appears Senate Bill 658. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 658, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Cullerton - Levin, amends Senate Bill 658."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton, on Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 658."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Ladies and Gentlemen, I believe that among the various lobbying groups that are down here today, you may have noticed that some people from my district and from Representative Levin's district have been down here lobbying with regard to legislation dealing with lights at Wrigley Field. Now, let me give you the background with regard to this Amendment. As you perhaps all know, we passed legislation a few years back which prohibited night baseball at Wrigley Field. That action by the General Assembly is currently being litigated and is now before the Illinois Supreme Court, as well as a city ordinance which 37 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 also banned night baseball. The Tribune Company has indicated their desire to have baseball games played, first of all, in the post season, as well as games played during the regular season, at night. The Tribune is also meeting with community groups right now to discuss the Tribune's request. Now, the position of the community has always been, they have been opposed to night baseball. When the Bill was passed, of course, a few years ago, the Cubs had not won the division and had not been in a position where they were even playing post season games. But, as we know, last year they did play post season games, and I'm sure that after this seven game losing streak is over, they're going to be playing post season games again at the end of the year. Now, let me just... Let me just say this. A couple of years ago when we talked about this, there was... there was an attitude, I think, of... Well, it was kind of whimsical. It was, yeah, let's keep the baseball tradition of day baseball, or no, I'd rather see night games because I want to watch the Cubs play at night. And I think that people somewhat misunderstood the importance of the issue to my district and to Representative Levin's district. And it is not just an issue which is whimsical. It's a very, very important issue in terms of health, in terms of safety, in terms of quality of life, and in terms of preemption of home rule. Now, it was pointed out to the community that if the Cubs made it to post season games, they could not play in Wrigley Field, because there's a contract between the baseball commissioner and the television stations to have night games. And so, in an effort to allow for the Cubs to be able to play their post season games in their own park, I come forward with this Amendment, along with Representative Levin, and offer it as a compromise. It is a compromise because it backs away 38 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 from the current law, and it says that, with regard to the state law, that post season games would be allowed. And we've also made it very clear that the alderman in the ward, Alderman 'Hansen', is agreeable to allowing post season night games for playoff games for allowing for an exemption from the city ordinance. Now, let me just tell you why the people in my community are opposed to this idea of having night baseball games throughout the entire year. And I want you to know, I'm not just here representing my district, I'm personally affected by this, because I used to live two blocks away from the park. Now, I live five blocks away from the park. When I have an opportunity to explain to people what goes on, after they understand the issues, they are usually convinced. Now, there's health, there's safety and there's general noise considerations. You know there's not enough places to park in Wrigley Field. People know that, which means people park within 12 to 16 blocks of this park. Now, just so you know from looking at the census tracks, there's 55,000 people that live within a mile of Wrigley Field. And that's approximately the population of the entire city of Champaign, just to give you an analogy. Now, the capacity of the park is approximately 37,000. When people go to the park, they drink. They drink during the day. When people would go the park at night, they would drink more. This would allow for 37,000 people who have been drinking - which is, by the way, approximately the size of the City of Urbana - to empty out, onto this mile area, into a population approximately the size of the City of Champaign. It's like a giant beer garden being let out onto a very small community. Now, when they do it now, they do it during the day. And there are drunks that come by my house. They do urinate on the lawns. They do throw beer 39. STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 bottles on the street. They do make a lot of noise. In fact, my wife told me that not too long ago, she was out in front of the house, and some people pulled up in a van about an hour and a half before the game. They pulled out a picnic lunch and camped out on the next door neighbor's lawn to have a little picnic lunch while... before the game started. When they park, they park illegally and they park to block areas around intersections so you can't see where the cars are coming. There's a fire station, which you all probably are aware of that is right across from the park that frequently has problems getting to and from fires because of the congestion. Now, this happens during the day. The people who live there knew about this when they moved in. But the problems are multiplied a thousandfold when we have night games. This Amendment allows for the night games for a maximum of seven games for the post season games, but it does not allow for night games for the regular season. I would be happy to answer any questions, but I think that what we should do in addressing this issue is really not be whimsical, to look upon it as the right of a community and of a city... of a city council that voted, I think, 46 to 2, to not have night games. It involves the right of these people to decide these local decisions for themselves. Now, this Tribune Company, which owns the Cubs, is interested perhaps in making more money, perhaps in improving their baseball club. I'm not sure which. But I recognize the fact that they perhaps should have the right to play night baseball in the playoff games, even though some people in my district don't even want to do that, we view this as a compromise, and I certainly would appreciate your support for this Amendment, but not for you to support the Amendment that preempts home rule and allows them to have night games during the regular season. I'd be 40 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 happy to answer any questions."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton, has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to HB 658. And on that discussion, the Gentleman from Cook, Speaker Madigan."
"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I rise in support of the Gentleman's Amendment. He has spoken most eloquently concerning the concerns of the neighborhood that he represents. At this time and on this particular Amendment, I wish to state for the purpose of the record that, as you all know, Commissioner Uberoff of major league baseball met with Senator Rock and myself a few weeks ago, and the message of Commissioner Eubberoth was very clear and he said, very clearly and very concisely, that the only need of major league baseball today is the ability to play night games in post-season play at Wrigley Field. That there is no need on the part of major league baseball to go beyond the question of post-season play. The need for lights in post-season play relates directly to a contract between ABC television and major league baseball which gives ABC television the ability to demand that the games be played at night and therefore the ability to demand that the games be moved out of Wrigley Field. So that for the purpose of this Amendment, it does meet precisely the need and the requirements of major league baseball and there is no need to go beyond this to satisfy the requests of the office of the Commissioner of Baseball. Thank you."
"Gentleman from DeWitt, Mr. Vinson."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Assembly. I, too, believe that this is an important issue and I am glad that we have the opportunity to debate it even though the Amendment proposed is inadequate. I am somewhat sorry, and I think if Representative Cullerton 41 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 reflects upon it, he will probably choose to qualify his remarks when he suggested that all 37,000 people who attend Cubs games are drunks. I don't believe that's the case. It's not been the case when I have observed Cubs games. I don't think that that is generally the case. I do understand Representative Cullerton's concern about a neighborhood problem and about how a particular commercial venture in a neighborhood creates a problem and about how when legislation is brought before the General Assembly we ought to consider what it does to a specific neighborhood. I wish Mr. Cullerton would reflect on things of that nature when he consistently votes against efforts people in this chamber have had to try to protect their neighborhoods in and about O'Hare Field from night flight noise. I thoroughly understand the need to work out a compromise between the community involved and the need to keep major league baseball in the City of Chicago. As a matter of fact, I believe that is the core of the issue that we debate when we talk about whether we are going to permit night baseball at Wrigley Field and whether we are going to make it possible to have night baseball there. If, in fact, we do not permit meaningful night baseball at Wrigley Field, the the economics of the case are such that certainly, the Cubs will have to leave Wrigley Field. That leads to two other possibilities. One is that the taxpayers of this state would be willing to underwrite a domed stadium for the Cubs to play in. I think that there are more pressing needs for taxpayer money than to build a domed stadium in the City of Chicago. The second... The third alternative is one I think is even worse and that would be for the General Assembly and the City Council of Chicago, a group of politicians to, in effect, drive a very major and very symbolic business out of Illinois, whether we drive them to 42 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Arizona or whether we drive them to Florida or whether we drive them to Indianapolis, that will be the result if we refuse night baseball in Wrigley Field because those are the economics of the case and those cities are actively pursuing the Cubs. Representative Cullerton's Amendment is no compromise in this field, and as I say, I would favor a compromise that restricted night baseball. Think about what his Amendment does. It sets in place a framework where only night baseball can be played in the playoffs and that night baseball must be illuminated with temporary lights. Now, in order to enter into a contract just to do what he proposes to do, what the Cubs would be required to do would be to invest $500,000 at a minimum for the auxiliary things required in lighting, the lights on the ramps, the apparatus which supports the temporary lights and so forth. Five hundred thousand dollars that might never be used. If they lose on the last game of the season, they would have invested that $500,000 and they would never have a chance to get that back to amortize that because they would never have a chance to play those night games in the playoffs and in the World Series. That is preposterous in and of itself. It's the kind of economics which this General Assembly has sometimes been persuaded to adopt and when it does, we drive business out of the State of Illinois. I think we ought to reject it in this case. But consider what the result is if we have temporary lights and night baseball in the playoffs. Then we are putting ourselves in a position where our team, the Cubs, the Illinois team, is having to play in a stadium under conditions that they have never played on before. That's not a friendly field. There is no home field advantage whatsoever to that. You are creating a situation where you don't know what the results are. It's as bad... it would 43 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 be as bad as the Cubs having to play night games in Yankee Stadium as their home field advantage and I think that all of us could reject that out-of-hand. Ladies and Gentlemen, the Illinois political climate and the Chicago political climate are at serious doubt at this time. Achieving a stable political climate in this state has been difficult and we all know what the continuing problems are with the Council war situation in Chicago. I think that it would be unconscionable for us to join in a plot to drive something as symbolic as the Cubs out of the City of Chicago. I think that would demonstrate beyond anything else we could do to the minds of most of America just how deeply in decline the City of Chicago and the State of Illinois are. I would strongly urge a 'no' vote on this because it's more than baseball. It is the symbolic stature of Chicago and Illinois. We ought vote 'no' on this Amendment and I would request... Mr. Speaker, I would request a recorded Roll Call vote on this Amendment. I might add, as the real Speaker spoke to what Mr. Eubberoth had said, that I had occasion to speak with the Commissioner's office this morning. Mr. Edward 'Derso', the General Counsel to the Commissioner on Baseball, and just so that everybody in this chamber knows, contrary to the rumors, the Commissioner's Office is not prepared to pay for the costs of temporary lights at Wrigley Field. Neither is NBC or ABC in their playoff and World Series contracts. That cost must be born by the Cubs and that is why, if you do this on a temporary light basis, what you are saying is no to major league baseball in Chicago. I urge a 'no' vote on the Amendment because we should not do that."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Levin."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I am pleased to join with Representative Cullerton 44 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 in presenting this Amendment which is extraordinarily important to the constituents in our area. And we have, as you have seen throughout the day, many, many residents from the community who have come down because of their concern for their neighborhood. This is a neighborhood that is fighting the kind of fight, I think, that every neighborhood in this state understands. The players may be different. The big corporation maybe have a different name, but it's the same kind of fight to maintain and preserve a neighborhood, a neighborhood where there are a lot of young professionals who have moved back from the suburbs and renovated because they have a pride in their community and they are willing to fight for it. What we have heard, however, on this issue from the Chicago Tribune is a lot of misinformation. We initially were told some three years ago that the Cubs couldn't win if they couldn't play at night. We heard that from Dallas Green. Well, apparently, his players didn't hear that because they did a pretty good job last year. We also heard that the Cubs couldn't make any money playing games during the day time. Well, last year they had a quality product and if you tried to get a ticket, you couldn't because the games were pretty much all sold out. You are not going to get any more people coming to a night game than you are to a day game when you get the kind of quality team that we have right now. Now we are hearing that, you know, we don't care if this community is concerned about its preservation. We don't care about the compromise that the community is willing to go along with, and I got to say there are a lot of people in the community who are very reluctant about this compromise that we are offering today, but they are realists and they don't want to stand... they don't want the Cubs to move away and they don't want the Cubs to play 45 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 in the playoff in St. Louis, so the community is offering this compromise. Yet we hear from the Tribune that they don't want this, they don't want to compromise. They want games, night games during the regular season and they want permanent lights and temporary lights are infeasible. Well, last year major league baseball contracted with 'Musco' Lighting. The same contractor who did the lighting for the Olympics, including the lighting for the baseball games that were televised on the Olympics and has done the lighting for at least 22 football games that have been televised. Well, that consultation with major league baseball, 'Mosco' Lighting concluded temporary lights are feasible and they are feasible at a realistic price. Tribune is throwing around a figure of a half a million dollars for temporary lights. Senator Netsch talked to one of the representatives of 'Mosco' Lighting for 45 minutes yesterday and Representative Cullerton and others were present for the telephone call and that figure is totally incorrect. The cost of temporary lights is no more than one-tenth of what the figure the Tribune is espousing. It's hard for us to understand where the Tribune is coming from on this, but we have a community that's very much concerned about itself. We have a community that's been willing to compromise on this very important issue and I would hope that you would join in standing up, not only for the community of Lakeview, but all of the communities around this state that are potentially effected by similar kinds of situations from big corporations and would support our Amendment and would oppose the Amendment to be offered by Representative Vinson. Thank you."
"The Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Tate."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the chamber. As Representative Vinson has already so 46 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 eloguently indicated, this really is no compromise. What the Gentleman is doing is not even preempting the local ordinance that has already been imposed. But I rise in opposition for a different reason. Just two weeks ago, I was in Wrigley Field and without question Wrigley Field is one of the finest sports facilities in the country today. There is not another place in this country that people can go see a baseball game with the proximity to the field, with the ivy around the walls and it would just be... it would just be an absolute crime for this chamber and this Assembly to prohibit and force a business out of that... that stadium. And it would be a crime not only for all Cub fans in this state, but for all the people in this state. The issue here and many, many people on this floor have had deep concerns over legislation that was recently... few years ago passed that would regulate and close car dealerships on Sunday. What we are basically doing here is telling a business, a company, when they can work and when they can't work. The issue here of lights is one that we really... we should have never entertained in the first place and we have no business as a chamber telling people when they should be able to operate and when they shouldn't be able to operate. And certainly, I understand the Gentleman's concerns about their neighborhood, and I... but I also would say that virtually every neighborhood in the City of Chicago probably has concerns about night flights to O'Hare Airport or flights that come close to their neighborhood. And the issue here is one that it would be an absolute crime, an absolute shame to see the Chicago Cubs be forced out of Wrigley Field, to be forced into a situation that they might, in fact, have to play games at another place. I... When I attended the game, it certainly is one that is shared with a great deal of enthusiasm, but / 47 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 I certainly resent the statement that there were 37,000 drunks that attended the game. That wasn't the case. The people there have conducted themselves in an orderly fashion. The people there are concerned about keeping the Cubs in Wrigley Field. Cub fans want games to be played in Wrigley Field and they... and what they really want and what they would like and every other baseball team in this country has the opportunity to schedule. And just by allowing lights in Wrigley Field doesn't necessarily automatically translate into 82 or 81 night games in a baseball season. They have... They have scheduling opportunity for day games. I encourage everyone to consider this with the utmost of importance, the utmost consideration and please, please, if you are concerned about business in this state, and concerned about one of our largest business and one of our best sports teams in this state, please vote 'no' on this Amendment."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Steczo."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I rise in support of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 658 and I find it funny how things have changed over the last few weeks. As a person who has waited all my life time for the Cubs to wind up in a World Series and realizing that we were that close last year and were cheated by major league baseball because of the inability to hold the number of night... the number of home games that we were supposed to have allocated to us because of the inability to play those games at night in Wrigley Field, that decision by the Baseball Commissioner's Office, I believe, cost the Cubs the playoffs and a chance for Chicago to host the World Series in 1984. When Commissioner Eubberoth visited this General Assembly a few weeks ago, we were told that the purpose of his visit was to try to get the General Assembly 48 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 to allow lights at Wrigley Field for post-season play. The community now has extended the courtesy of withdrawing opposition to post-season play and I believe that in all fairness, those of us who are staunch supporters and who would like to see the next playoffs held in Wrigley Field, realizing that those playoffs would be held at night should be in support of this Amendment. I feel that it's a compromise that is worthwhile. I feel now that additional restrictions on the type of lights used and additional games that people are talking about simply are providing a position for us that really is not the position that came from the Baseball Commissioner's Office at the outset. So, I would encourage the Members of the House to adopt Amendment #1 and allow us to be able to spend those evenings in the friendly confines next November and October rooting the Cubs on to a victory in the World Series in 1985."
"There being no further discussion, Mr. Cullerton, to close."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'd like to answer some of the points raised by the Representative from Clinton, Illinois, Representative Vinson. I certainly didn't mean to imply that all the people that go to the ballpark are drunks. I think that everyone here recognizes the fact that people who do drink beer during the baseball games, during the day games now, that clearly, more people would drink at night and those people would drink more. I want to make it real clear that he is absolutely wrong when he says that failure to have night games means that the Cubs will move out of Wrigley Field. It just isn't the case. The Commissioner of Baseball, Mr. Eubberoth, has made it clear that he thinks that Wrigley Field is probably one of the best ballparks in 49 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 the nation and he is very much in favor of the concept of day baseball games and even the Cubs themselves, Dallas Green has indicated that he is a proponent of day baseball. So they are not going to move out of Wrigley Field if they don't have lights. The only time they might move out of Wrigley Field without lights is if this Amendment doesn't pass. Now, I want to make something... first of all, I want to just mention that the concept of the temporary lights and the cost. Mr. Vinson is absolutely wrong when he says it will cost $500,000. I don't know if he means per game or for the whole playoff schedule. I can just tell you that after talking with the people from the temporary lighting company that the total cost will be something like $280,000 which is a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of money that baseball will lose if they were to have to rebate money back to ABC. Now, let me just make something very clear. If this Amendment doesn't pass and Representative Vinson's Amendment doesn't pass, and I don't think it will because we know it requires 71 votes, then we will not be allowed to have night baseball for the playoffs and the Cubs will have to move to some other park. So, if you are concerned about the possibility of having the Cubs move out of Wrigley Field for post-season games, then you should vote for this Amendment. This is the safety valve that you must support in order for you to have night games for post-season play. I would please ask you to consider the enormity of this decision and please vote 'aye' for this Amendment."
"Question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Madigan, for what purpose do you seek recognition? Yes, Mr. Madigan." 50 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Mr. Speaker, I rise to declare that I may have a potential conflict of interest on this matter, but as you can see, I will vote my conscience."
"Alright."
"As I told the Tribune Company."
"Have all... Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 85 voting 'aye', 25 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments."
"Floor Amendment #2, Vinson - et al, amends Senate Bill 658."
"Gentleman from DeWitt, Mr. Vinson, on Amendment #2."
"I withdraw that Amendment, Mr. Speaker."
"Amendment #2 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, Vinson - Steczo - et al, amends Senate Bill..."
"Gentleman from DeWitt, Mr. Vinson, on Amendment #3."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, in light of the Senate Sponsor, I withdraw that Amendment too, and we'll offer it to a different Bill."
"Amendment #3 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Special Call - Environmental Protection Agency, appears Senate Bill 1351."
"Senate Bill..."
"Mr. Olson, did you wish us to proceed on that? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1351, a Bill for an Act to amend the 51 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Yes, Mr. Cullerton, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Yes, I wanted to ask Representative Olson a question."
"Well, Mr. Cullerton, you seem to be basking in your glory. He may... Mr. Olson, would you like to give him the courtesy of a question?"
"Well, that's alright. He... It was a Committee Amendment. I'll talk to him about it later."
"Alright, so it's on Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1352. Out of the record. Second... Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1358, Mr. Keane. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1358, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 and 2 were adopted in Committee."
"Motions with respect to Amendment #1 and 2?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #5, Homer - et al, amends Senate Bill 1358."
"The Gentleman from Fulton, Mr. Homer, on Amendment #5."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. Amendment #5 would simply allow for some additional cosmetology schools in Illinois to participate in the 52 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 scholarship program that is already being proposed for the Illinois taxpaying proprietary schools that were added by the original language. Under the Amendment, what we would be doing would be fairly distributing the additional scholarship program monies in the same ratio of ten percent by including some additional schools. It would effect, in fact, 78 cosmetology schools in the State of Illinois. There are 178 schools throughout the state. This Amendment would limit the provisions as applied to only 78 of those schools because it would require various stringent requirements before those 78 cosmetology schools would be eligible. The grants would then be allowed to the students attending those schools and it would make what we believe is a good Bill a better Bill. And I would urge your support for Amendment #5."
"Gentleman from Fulton moves for the adoption of Amendment #5 to Senate Bill 1358, and on that, is there any discussion? Mr... Mr. Shaw, are you seeking my recognition? Alright. On that, Mr. Shaw, the Gentleman from Cook."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. If this Amendment should receive the record number of votes, I'd ask for a verification."
"Mr. Keane."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in opposition to the Amendment to the Bill. A similar Amendment was offered in Committee and lost either 19 to 1 or 19 to 1. The reason that it lost was that the Bill, as it's set up now would recognize the proprietary schools that are certified and recognized or have been certified by either the Illinois Board of Higher Education or the Illinois Office of Education. It would not... I repeat, it would not include schools that are approved by R and E. The reason we did this was to keep the amount low, to keep the dollar amount 53 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 low and to keep it consistent with the pledge that I made and the Amendment that I put on in Committee to keep the funding restricted and so that it would not become a threat to the MAP program. And for that reason, I would ask opposition to Amendment #5. Thank you."
"The Lady from Champaign, Ms. Satterthwaite."
"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I disagree with the previous speaker in regard to the outcome of this Amendment when it was handled in Committee. At that time, I believe that many of the Committee Members voted against this Amendment hoping that the Bill would not proceed out of Committee. That not being the case, however, I think that many of the people who were in Committee that day may choose to change their votes on this Amendment. I would certainly hope that we would give an equal opportunity to the people who want to participate in this type of a professional training program would have the opportunity to do it. The argument in favor of the Bill and in favor of the groups that are included among the schools that would be supported through these grants to students was that this will give a fairly fast turn around time. It will give people the opportunity to be trained so that they can be employed and be producing taxes for the State of Illinois. I think that argument applies equally to the people who would be brought in under Amendment #5 and for that reason, I urge the support and adoption of Amendment #5."
"Further discussion? The Gentleman from Fulton, Mr. Homer, to close."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just simply at this time ask for a favorable vote for Amendment #5."
"Okay, question is, 'Shall Amendment #5 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 54 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 'nays' have it and the Amendment fails. Further Amendment?"
"Floor Amendment #6, offered by Representative Satterthwaite."
"Lady from Champaign, Ms. Satterthwaite, on Amendment #6."
"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, this Amendment merely changes the maximum award that could be provided under the Bill. It is my opinion that $1000 is more equitable for the amount that should go to a student going to these proprietary programs. In many cases, if they were to choose to go to a community college instead to get their education in these fields, the amount of money that they would qualify for at that community college would be more in the neighborhood of $700 to $800. Therefore, I believe that the $1000 figure that I'm providing in this Amendment would be a much more comparable figure and I believe sufficient to make an equitable program for the proprietary schools. And I would urge the adoption of Amendment #6."
"The Lady from Champaign moves for the adoption of Amendment #6 to Senate Bill 1359, and on that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Keane."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in opposition to this Amendment which reduces the grant level from $1800 to $1000. It does not, in any way, help. What we are talking about is that there is a given amount that will be appropriated for the grant and it was felt, after much deliberation, that the existing grant level was appropriate if there is not sufficient funds to make all grant applications, just as in the MAP program, the funds will be proportioned and for that reason, I object and I would ask for a 'no' vote on the Amendment." 55 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Further discussion, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. McGann."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Assembly. If we could just have a little of your attention for just a couple of moments. I hope that everyone in this Assembly realizes what this Bill does and what Amendment #6 is trying to correct. The Bill, itself, addresses the fact that we will be supporting for-profit schools. Supporting for-profit schools. Now, whether the award goes through a student, it's still going to a profit making school. And I think this is very, very important that you consider this at this time. So, I, therefore, say that this Bill got out of the Committee, but I think we should look closer at it and not give an award of $1800, but give an award of $1000, if this be the feeling, at least to see how it's going to work out. We are giving money to for-profit schools and I don't believe that that's proper under the State Constitution. I ask you to support this Amendment #6."
"Further discussion? There being none, the Lady from Champaign, Ms. Satterthwaite, to close."
"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This is a new program. If Senate Bill 1358 passes into law, the state will have some responsibility for funding programs that are not currently qualified for grants to students who have their education within these for-profit institutions. My feeling is that if we are going to subsidize these not-for-profit schools by providing grants to their students that we should do it in such a way as to not produce an incentive for those for-profit institutions to increase tuition by some extraordinary amount. It appears to me that if we are going to go into this program, we would be far better off making limited grants, grants that would be rather comparable to what the student might 56 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 receive if the student were going to a community college. For that reason, I believe that there is a great deal of justification in lowering the amount to $1000 as the maximum award per student and I would urge the Membership to support me in this Motion and I would request a Roll Call vote, please."
"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #6 be adopted?' All in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Ms. Oblinger, one minute to explain your vote."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think everyone should realize exactly what Mrs. Satterthwaite was saying, that this is a for-profit organization that will be getting scholarships. Remember, they already get federal grants."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 56 voting 'aye', 52 voting 'no' and the Amendment therefore... yes, Mr. Keane."
"I'd like you to poll the absentees."
"Mr. Clerk, poll the absentees."
"Poll of the Absentees. Bowman. Brunsvold. Laurino. Levin. Panayotovich. Pangle. Parcells. And Pullen."
"Mr. Preston. Mr. Preston votes from 'aye' to 'no'. Now, there are 55 voting 'aye', 53 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present' and the Motion... and the Amendment carries. Further Amendment?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1360. Mr. Ronan. Mr. Ronan. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1360, a Bill for an Act to amend 57 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Sections of the Illinois Municipal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Floor Amendment?""
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Representative Breslin, in the Chair."
"House Bill... Senate Bill 1370. Representative Phelps. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1370, a Bill for an Act in relation to regional correctional facilities. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments."
"Wait a minute. No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1375, Representative Giorgi - Shaw. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1375, a Bill for an Act to authorize off-track parimutuel wagering in Illinois. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions filed?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Shaw."
"Representative Shaw, on Amendment #2. Present the Amendment, please."
"Yes, Madam Speaker. I'd like to withdraw Amendment #2."
"Withdraw Amendment #2. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Shaw."
"Representative Shaw."
"Yes, I'd like to withdraw Amendment #3."
"Withdraw Amendment #... Amendment #3. Are 58 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 there any further Amendments?"
Clerk O'Brien: "Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Bullock - Saltsman - Nash - Woodyard and Goforth."
"Representative Giorgi."
"Madam Speaker, Representative Bullock isn't here and his Amendment to House Bill... Senate Bill 1375 is the greyhound Amendment to off-track betting, but the Bill now is only a shell and it's agreement among the Leaders that this Bill needs more work from the task force, from the Governor's Office, everybody involved, so I would like to defeat Amendment #4 so that this Bill can go over to the Senate and we can get a Conference Committee started so that everybody that's concerned about the future or non-future of off-track betting be allowed to sit in and give their versions and interpretations. So, I'd like to defeat Amendment #4, even though the Sponsor of the Amendment isn't here rather than tabling it."
"Representative Giorgi, you'll have to move to table it. Otherwise..."
"I'll move to table Amendment #4 inasmuch as he is not here and I would ask you to defeat it anyway."
"Okay, the... the Gentleman has moved to table... The Gentleman has moved to table Amendment #4 to Senate Bill 1375, and on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Kubik."
"I would rise in support of the Motion to table. I think that the issue of off-track betting is a separate issue than greyhound racing. I think we ought to vote on each issue separately. There is a greyhound Bill on 169. I would urge a 'no' vote."
"There being no further discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #4 to House... to Senate Bill 1375 be tabled?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed 59 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is tabled. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1380, Representative Turner. Representative Turner. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1391, Representative Braun. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1391, a bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Human Rights Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1402, Representative Braun. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1402, a Bill for an Act to provide for vocational and professional enterprise training centers. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Braun."
"Representative Braun."
"Withdraw Amendment #1."
"The Lady withdraws Amendment #1. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Washington."
"Representative Washington. Representative Washington. The Gentleman is not on the floor. Representative Braun moves to table Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1402. All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it 60 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 and the Amendment is tabled. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1404, Representative Braun. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1404, a Bill for an Act creating the Illinois Job Development Corps. Second Reading of the Bill. No committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1405, Representative Braun. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1405, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Revenue Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions filed?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1414, Representative Tuerk. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1415, Representative Hastert. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1415, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Message Tax Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1416, Representative Parke. Representative Parke. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1416, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments?" 61 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments?"
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1417, Representative Tate - Levin. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1417, a Bill for an Act to create the Illinois Real Estate Time Share Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1428, Representative Davis. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1428, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments?"
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1436, Representative O'Connell. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1436, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Juvenile Court Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative O'Connell."
"Representative Cullerton, for what reason do you rise?"
"I would ask if that Amendment has been printed and distributed, and I believe it has not."
"It has not been printed and distributed, Representative O'Connell, so we will have to get back to you. Senate Bill 1437, Representative Terzich. Representative Terzich. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1448, Representative Mautino. Clerk, read the Bill." 62 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Senate Bill 1448, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Fish Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Mautino."
"Representative Mautino."
"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. Amendment #1 to 1448 deletes the provisions in the original Bill that if an an offense in the area of the legislation would be a Class C misdemeanor, that puts it back to a petty offense. Originally this Bill set forth penalties as it pertains to conservation and outdoor recreation, fishing licenses, etc. As it came over from the Senate, it was wrong. It should be a petty offense if a person doesn't have, for example, a fishing license, as opposed to a Class C misdemeanor and I ask for adoption of Amendment #1."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1448, and on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."
"Would the Sponsor yield?"
"This is on Amendment #1. He will yield for a question."
"Yes. Representative Mautino, as I understood the Senate Bill, it increased the penalties for violating the Fish Code, and it was recommended by the Cook County State's Attorney's Office and it appears that that's all that the Bill did. And your Amendment appears to just return those penalties back to a petty offense. Is that right?"
"Yes."
"So what's left of the Bill?"
"Nothing. I would like to point out, Representative, 63 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 that I think it's ridiculous to have a Class... or a Class C misdemeanor and a $500 fine if someone was found without a fishing license."
"Yeah, I don't necessarily disagree with you. Why don't you just table the Bill?"
"Because there's another Amendment coming and it isn't here yet."
"Okay, well, it shows you that sometimes it's a good idea to ask questions if you are curious."
"There being no further discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1448 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1450, Representative Mautino. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1450, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Wildlife Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Mautino."
"Representative Mautino."
"Thank you very much. I don't have my sequence in front of me, but I believe that Amendment #1 to 1450 is identical to the previous Amendment which provides for a petty offense rather than a Class C misdemeanor, and I would like... if that is the case, I would like to have that adopted as well."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1450, and on that question, the Gentleman from Cook..." 64 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Excuse me. I was misinformed. Amendment #1 is not that Amendment. Amendment #2 is. Amendment #1 is the falconry Amendment. Basically changes the age criteria from 18 to 14 because there is a seven year provision before an individual can get into falconry, and I move for Amendment #1 and its adoption."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 as now explained to Senate Bill 1450, and on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."
"Will the Sponsor yield?"
"He will yield for a question."
"I have a number of questions. First of all, it allows for the lowering of the minimum age for a permit from the Department of Conservation from 18 down to 14 years old, is that right?"
"That's the federal standard, yes, Sir."
"Okay, so what... what does that mean, in effect, that a 14 year old can go out and hunt dear and bears and stuff?"
"No, it's to be involved in the practice of falconry and eagles and there is a federal standard that uses the age 14 and you must have seven years experience before you can be licensed and that is the apprenticeship provisions within falconry."
"So, if you start in second grade... Well, is it just limited to falconry or is it everything?"
"Falconry and it's... he has to be with someone who has a license in it. Cannot start until he's 14. That is the federal standards. This was another Bill that came out of the House and got to Third Reading. It was Representative McAuliffe's Bill and it just wasn't called."
"That's fine. I just wondered if you could tell me 65 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 what is falconry?"
"Falconry is the art of training falcons for sport and for hunt. Do you know what a falcon is?"
"And why are we changing... why are we changing the season?"
"It allows us, by administrative rule, to set the times for the season."
"Okay, and is there something here about permitting the hunting of migratory game birds?"
"Yes."
"Why do we want to do that?"
"Because falcons don't know the difference between migratory birds and other birds."
"Well, but we are deleting the provision allowing for the hunting of migratory water fowl."
"They don't know the difference."
"Yes, in other words, what is the difference between migratory game birds and migratory water fowl? If you know."
"Well, there is a difference. No, not off hand, I don't know, as it pertains to falconry, I'm handling somebody else's Amendment, to be honest with you."
"Okay, so what this does then is it allows if someone in second grade would start take... taking up falconry, that means..."
"Only if the second grader is 14 years old. I don't know many kids in second grade that are 14."
"No, no. Oh, I see. In other words, you can get this seven years of experience only after you are 14."
"You got it."
"So, then you could be... you would have to be 21 before you could get licensed."
"Exactly." 66 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"And does this raise the age from 18 to 21 or does it lower it from 25 to 21?"
"18 to 14. It's the 14 seven year apprenticeship, which would be age 21."
"Okay, and the... Okay, well, we could talk more about this on Third Reading, perhaps."
"Perhaps."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative McAuliffe."
"Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is a good Amendment. This Bill passed out of the Energy and Environment Committee, I think, 13 to nothing, and it was on the Consent Calendar in the House and it never was called. So, it's really a good Bill and I'd... good Amendment and I'd urge its support."
"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1450 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1451, Representative Washington. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1451, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Environmental... Illinois Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Washington."
"Representative Washington. Excuse me, Representative Koehler, for what reason do you rise?"
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would inquire of the Chair 67 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 as to whether or not Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1451 is germane. Senate Bill 1451, in its original form, provides for criminal penalties for the violations of the Environmental Protection Act, things that are used to make sure that our environment is enhanced. Amendment #1 to this Bill creates a rather complex and burdensome procedural requirement that is completely different from the underlying Bill, and I would ask for a ruling of the Chair as to whether or not these two very different things can be on the same Bill."
"Representative Koehler, the Chair rules that the Amendment is germane. They both Amendment the Environmental Protection Act. Proceed on the Amendment, Representative Washington. Representative Washington."
"Yes, Madam Speaker, Members of the House, this Bill certainly is a Bill that does two things specifically. It basically will change... this Amendment, rather, will change the apportionment of fines with respect to the Attorney General's Office... agency and the Hazardous Waste Fund and the Environmental Protection Fund. The other thing that it will do, it will afford that notification should be given in the form that if there is 25 people or less living... or more living in a area of a three mile radius where a hazardous waste or a transfer station will be... applicant has requested for a transfer station, it's required... it will be required that 25 or more people will have an option to request that a public hearing be had before that application will be approved. This certainly is a consumer orientated Bill and it gives the public the right to participate in the areas such as hazardous waste or its transfer stations that may be put in even in our back yard. So, I move for a favorable adoption of this Amendment." 68 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1451, and on that question, the Lady from Marshal, Representative Koehler."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in opposition to Amendment #1. While it is well-intentioned, it is not a well thought out Amendment. The Representative should be made aware of the fact that there is a formal hearing procedure that takes care of all the things that he is trying to do. What he is creating is an informal procedure that would not be subject to the Administrative Procedures Act and what this informal procedure would do would just be to allow unsubstantiated allegations to be made that would only increase community frustration and anger. And while it is well-intentioned and we can understand this, what this Amendment would do would be to destroy the underlying Bill. The underlying Bill is a Bill that is very important to our law enforcement... our local enforcement agencies, such as our state's attorneys and our local county enforcement officials such as county sheriffs because this would... this Amendment would endanger their receiving a part of the enforcement proceeds that come by way of fines or judgments against those who are polluters and so I would rise in opposition to this Amendment and would hope that you would join me. I would like a Roll Call on this Amendment."
"The Gentleman from Lake, Representative Churchill."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"
"He will yield for a question."
"Representative Washington, a few years ago, we passed a Bill, it was Senate Bill 172, that dealt with the siting of regional pollution control facilities. In what ways does this Amendment of yours effect that Bill?" 69 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Well, basically, what will happen here, as we well know that they have to give notice in a public paper and what I found out in my experience, there was a transfer station being place in one of my districts. And what we found out that that notification was given... put in the Tribune, which theoretically, very few people read the Tribune, but however it is, that all they would basically do is that allows that there be public input if there are 25 or more people decide that there should be a hearing on this individual application for a transfer station or, as I said, if theoretically you end up having a hazardous waste site right behind your back yard if the people didn't have any participation into the acceptance of that particular application."
"Isn't... Isn't there a local siting already? Isn't there a requirement of a public hearing before they can site these facilities?"
"No, all they say... state that they would have to give notification in a newspaper, period, and we found that the paper that they gave notification in was in the Chicago Tribune and none of the people in the area were apprised of the fact that there were public hearings being held. As a matter of fact, I attempted to bring together the EPA, the company and they failed to respond to my request to sit down and discuss this matter and for that reason, this Amendment originated out of that because I truly believe that if people are going to have some input in what happens and we can all be hurt by things of this nature if we don't begin to give community input."
"Does this Bill allow for notification of the county board members in the district in which the siting is to be approved?"
"It does, and it goes farther to give notification to 70 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 that particular individual, we it be man or woman that a representative in that particular district."
"In the... as a result of Senate Bill 172, is it not a requirement at this point that people who reside within so many yards, a hundred yards or a mile or whatever of the proposed facility be notified, in writing, that this hearing is to be held?"
"Well, we are asking for a two mile radius and all we're saying that if at least 25 persons who reside within a two mile radius proposed facility, the agency shall hold a public hearing concerning the permit applications. If no one comes forth, then they won't hold no... no meeting concerning a public meeting."
"In Senate Bill 224, which we considered here, either yesterday or the day before, we discussed the fact that no waste treatment facility for a transfer station should occur unless everybody within a thousand feet were notified of that. Why doesn't Senate Bill 224 take care of what you are trying to do in this Amendment?"
"Well, I don't know why it doesn't take care of it. We felt as though this Amendment along with the additional aspect of public notification where the people participation would be more than sufficient and I don't think that that particular Amendment under that... what you cited basically takes care of what I am asking to happen in this particular Amendment under 1451."
"Madam Speaker, to the Bill. I rise in opposition... or to this Amendment. I rise in opposition to the Amendment. A few years back, we put into effect a Bill which was to consider the siting of local facilities for waste disposal. That Bill has yet to reach its full extent. It has been studied by many of the counties and many of the governments in this state. Many of those 71 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 counties and governments have not yet had a chance to have a siting under the old Senate Bill 172. I think it's premature at this time to come in and change the requirements of that Bill in this manner. I also think that, although this Bill... this Amendment may be well-intentioned, I think that it's already covered under other things that have been brought before this House already this Session. I would rise in opposition. I would ask all those who have paid attention to this issue to discuss it with their seatmates and vote 'no' on this Amendment. There has been a request for a Roll Call already and I would second that request."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative O'Connell."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, as a point of clarification. The Amendment to Senate Bill 224 did not include the City of Chicago, so accordingly, that does not have any relevancy to Representative Washington's Amendment. So, his Amendment would not be effected by Senate Bill 224, and I feel that the Amendment has... to Senate Bill 1451 has much merit and there should be continual input from the community and I would highly support this Amendment."
"The Gentleman from Cook... from DuPage, Representative McCracken."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. Senate Bill 1451 deals with a sensitive issue. There's no question about that. The citing of these types of facilities is of great public concern. However, I think the Bill goes too far in not requiring that the requirements of the Administrative Procedure Act be followed in this case. You know, there is a great stake at interest here on the siting of these facilities and it 72 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 isn't a one way street. The General Assembly in the past has recognized that fact and has made these administrative findings on whether to allow the siting of a facility subject to the Administrative Procedure Act and that means this, that means that due process has to be accorded the applicant. That means that evidence has to be taken. That means that the decision has to be supported by the weight of the evidence. That means that the loser in that situation, whoever it be, the citizen or the landfill operator, has the right of review in the Circuit and Appellate Courts of our state and that on review, the evidence has to support the finding of the administrative body. This Amendment specifically exempts from the Administrative Procedures Act proceedings of this type. It holds specifically that for purposes of the Act, this shall not be considered a contested case. The Bill is a well-intended... deals with a serious issue, but is unquestionably a denial of due process. Let's put back in the Administrative Procedures Act, otherwise this Bill has to be defeated. I urge a 'no' vote."
"There being no further discussion, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Washington, to close."
"I would like to just close in saying that the Cook County State's Attorney's Office in support of this Amendment. They feel as though it's fine and I certainly that it's consumer orientated and certainly the great manufacturing companies of this state probably opposed to this because it further dilutes their will to be able to do what they want to do. And I urge a favorable vote from all Members on this because it's a good Bill for the State of Illinois."
"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1451 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all 73 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Representative Koehler, for what reason do you rise?"
"Madam... Madam Speaker, I would ask for a verification if it should get the required number of votes."
"Representative McCracken, for what reason do you rise?"
"Explanation of vote."
"You have already explained your vote, Sir. I'm sorry. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 52 voting 'aye', 51 voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. Representative Washington asks for a Poll of the Absentees. Representative Zwick, for what reason do you rise?"
"I did have my light on to explain my vote. I can understand that you might have overlooked it, but I'd simply like to clarify for the record that it was stated that the State's Attorney's Office supports this Bill... of Cook County, and they do support the Bill. They do not support the Amendment. I think that's important to be clarified. Thank you."
"Proceed with the Poll. Representative Pullen, for what reason do you rise?"
"How am I recorded, please?"
"You are not recorded on my... no, you are not recorded as voting."
"Please vote me 'no'."
"Representative Pullen wishes to be recorded as voting 'no'. Representative Washington asks for a Poll of the Absentees."
"Poll of the Absentees. Barger. Breslin. Brunsvold. Bullock. Giorgi. Homer. Huff. Laurino. Leverenz. Matijevich." 74 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Representative Matijevich votes 'aye', and Representative Huff votes 'aye'. Representative Koehler, Representative Keane asks leave to be verified. May he have leave? Yes, he may."
"Continuing the Poll of the Absentees. Panayotovich. Pangle. Satterthwaite. Van Duyne. No further."
"Representative McNamara asks leave to be verified, Representative Koehler. May he have leave? Representative Shaw requests the same. Representative Shaw and McNamara. Representative Huff, for what reason do you rise?"
"Yes, Madam Speaker. How am I recorded?"
"You are recorded as voting 'aye'. There are now 54 voting 'aye' and 52 voting 'no'. Proceed with the Poll of the Affirmative, Mr. Clerk."
"Alexander. Berrios. Bowman. Braun. Brookins. Capparelli. Christensen. Cullerton. Curran. Currie. DeJaegher. DeLeo. Dunn. Farley. Flinn. Flowers. Giglio. Greiman. Hannig. Huff. Keane. Krska. Kulas. LeFlore. Levin. Matijevich. Mautino. McGann. McNamara. McPike. Mulcahey. Nash. O'Connell. Phelps. Preston. Rea. Rice. Richmond. Ronan. Saltsman. Shaw. Soliz. Steczo. Stern. Sutker. Terzich. Turner. Vitek. Washington. White. Wolf. Anthony Young."
"Anthony Young asks leave to be verified, Representative Koehler. Anthony Young and Representative Currie ask leave to be verified. Proceed."
"Wyvetter Younge. And Mr. Speaker."
"Representative Giorgi asks to be voted 'aye'. There are therefore 55 voting 'aye', 52 voting 'no'. Representative Leverenz. Leverenz wishes to be voted 'aye'. Do you have any questions of the Affirmative Roll." 75 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Yes, I would like to know the count where we are starting and then we will..."
"56 voting 'aye', 52 voting 'no'."
"Thank you. Representative Ronan."
"Representative Ronan. Representative Ronan. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? He is not. Remove him."
"Representative Keane."
"Representative Keane. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? How is the Gentleman recorded? Keane. We gave Representative Keane permission to be verified first, Representative Koehler."
"Thank... Yes, I... Alright, Representative Farley."
"Representative Farley. Representative Farley. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Remove him."
"Representative Giglio."
"Representative Giglio. Representative Giglio. How is the Gentleman recorded?"
"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."
"Remove him."
"Representative Flinn."
"Representative Flinn. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Remove him."
"Representative Van Duyne."
"Representative Younge asks leave to be verified, Representative Koehler."
"Representative Wyvetter Younge?"
"I... I'm asking leave for Representative..."
"Anthony..."
"Alexander."
"Oh, Alexander. Alright."
"Excuse me. Representative Wyvetter Younge is in her chair."
"Oh, well, no, when you said Younge, I thought you meant 76 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Wyvetter Younge because Anthony Young has already asked."
"Excuse me. I'm sorry."
"Alright, we were with Representative Van Duyne. Is he..."
"Representative Van Duyne? Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Representative Van Duyne. How is the Gentleman recorded?"
"The Gentleman is recorded as not voting."
"The Gentleman is not voting."
"Representative McGann."
"Representative McGann. Representative McGann. The Gentleman is in the chamber."
"Representative Laurino."
"Representative Laurino. Representative Laurino. Is the Gentleman in the chamber?"
"The Gentleman is recorded as not voting."
"Representative Panayotovich."
"Representative Panayotovich."
"Gentleman is recorded as not voting."
"Representative Steczo."
"Representative Steczo is in his chair."
"Representative Preston."
"Representative Preston. Representative Preston is in the chamber. He is in the chamber."
"Representative Turner."
"Representative Turner. Representative Turner. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? How is the Gentleman recorded?"
"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."
"Representative... the Gentleman is not in the chamber. Remove him. Representative Barger asks to be recognized so that he may be recorded as voting 'aye'... excuse me, 'no'. Representative Pangle asks to be voted 77 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 'aye'. Are there any more questions of the Affirmative Roll?"
"Representative Berrios."
"Representative Berrios. Representative Berrios. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? How is the Gentleman recorded?"
"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."
"Remove him."
"Well, I was going to ask about Coach Capparelli, but I see him down there. He hasn't yet left. Representative Saltsman."
"Representative Saltsman is in the chamber."
"Hartke."
"Representative Hartke is in the chamber."
"Representative Bullock."
"Representative Bullock. Representative Bullock. How is the Gentleman recorded?"
"The Gentleman is recorded as not voting."
"The Gentleman is not voting, Representative Koehler."
"Representative DeLeo."
"Representative DeLeo is in the chamber."
"Representative McNamara."
"Representative McNamara. He had leave to be verified."
"Representative White."
"Representative White is in his chair."
"Representative Phelps."
"Representative Phelps is in the chamber."
"Representative Homer."
"Representative Homer. Representative Homer."
"Gentleman is recorded as not voting."
"Representative Bowman." 78 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Representative Bowman. Representative Bowman. How is the Gentleman recorded?"
"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."
"Remove him."
"What is the count, Madam Speaker?"
"Representative Bowman has returned to the chamber. Add him to the Roll Call. Representative Farley has returned to the chamber. Add him to the Roll Call."
"What is the... Did you give the count, Madam Speaker?"
"We are tabulating it now. On... Representative Turner has returned to the chamber. Add him to the Roll Call. Representative Pangle, for what reason do you rise? Okay, record Representative Breslin as voting 'aye'. There are 54 voting 'aye' and 53 voting 'no', and this Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Ladies and Gentlemen, we are going to go back to the beginning of this Order of Business, Senate Bills Second Reading on page 15 on your Calendar, and proceed through those Bills. Excuse me. We have just noted, Representative Washington, while I said that we were moving the Bill to Third Reading, that is impossible because we understand that there is a request for a fiscal note on this Bill as amended and thus the Bill has to remain on the Order of Second Reading until you supply a fiscal note as amended. Representative Terzich, we are going to go back to your Bill, if possible, before we move to this other Order of Business. That's Senate Bill 1437. Representative Terzich. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1437, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Consumer Fraud and Deceptive Business Practice Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 79 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions filed?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Terzich."
"Representative Terzich."
"Yes, Madam Speaker, Amendment #2 addresses a area which clarifies a building permit would be... not getting a building permit would be a Class A misdemeanor. This... There was some objection in Committee. This will remove that particular Section of the Bill and I would move for its adoption."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1437, and on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1437 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. And also, on that same Order, with permission of the Body, we will go back to Representative Tate's Bill, Senate Bill 1133. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1133, a Bill for an Act to prohibit local government from regulating hunting and fishing amending certain Acts herein named. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any... Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative 80 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Zwick."
"Representative Cullerton, for what reason do you rise?"
"I believe the Amendment has not been printed."
"The Amendment has not been printed, Representative Tate. Representative Tate maintains that it has been printed. Can we confirm... Can we recheck that? I'm sorry, Representative Tate. It has not been distributed on this side of the aisle. We are going to go back and hopefully we'll get back to it anyway. Senate Bill 3, Representative Mautino. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill #3, a Bill for an Act in relation to concentration storage of radioactive waste and the Civil Administrative Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 16, Representative Levin. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 16, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Condominium Property Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions filed?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Levin and Parke."
"Representative Levin."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 is basically cleanup. It embodies two provisions requested by the Illinois Realtors Association. The first provision simply changes the number of units of a condominium that qualify for one of the provisions in the 81 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Bill from 30 to 20 and the second change in the Bill deals with how management companies will maintain accounts for monies from condominium associations that they... that they collect monies for. It also includes a technical Amendment changing a reference and, you know, I know of no opposition to it. As somebody that represents condominium associations, I think it's good for the condominiums as well as for the realtors."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 6... 16, and on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 16 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 17, Representative DeLeo. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 17, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act in relation to criminal identification and investigation. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions filed?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative DeLeo and Nash."
"Representative Nash."
"Madam Chairman, I move to table Amendment #2."
"The Gentleman moves to withdraw Amendment #2. The Amendment is withdrawn. Are there any further Amendments?" 82 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 24, Representative McNamara - O'Connell. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 24, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 39, Representative Wyvetter Younge. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 39, a Bill for an Act creating the East St. Louis Development..."
"Out of the record. Senate Bill... would you read that Bill a second time and then hold it, Mr. Clerk?"
"Senate Bill 39, a Bill for an Act to create the East St. Louis Development Authority. Second Reading of the Bill."
"Out of the record. Okay, we'll hold it on Second Reading. Senate Bill 42, Representative Curran - Parcells. Clerk, read the Bill. Representative Curran."
"Senate Bill 42, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any..."
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 48, Representative Van Duyne. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 48, a Bill for an Act relating to the posting and publication of certain notices in school districts. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1 and 2 were adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions filed?"
"No Motions filed." 83 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Van Duyne."
"Representative Van Duyne."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. First, I want to table Amendment #1 which is... it's out of order. Amendment #1 and #2 are out of order, and it's necessary for me to table #1 and reinstitute #1 as Amendment #3."
"The Gentleman moves to table..."
"And if can I do that... if I can do that... with leave of the House, I'd like to do that in one Motion."
"We'll do it separately. Representative Van Duyne moves to table Amendment #1... Committee Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 48, and on that question is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 48 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And Committee Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 48 is tabled. And then on Amendment #3, Representative Van Duyne."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Now, I offer the same Amendment as Amendment #3, and that will make them in proper order."
"Representative Van Duyne, moves to adopt Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 48, and on that question is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 48 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Currie." 84 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Representative Currie."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. Amendment 4 to Senate Bill 48 would establish a procedure for resolving questions about school annexations involving alternate opportunities to make decisions, recommendations by regional superintendents. In any case requiring voter approval, before annexations could go into affect."
"The Lady has moved for the adoption of Amendment #4 to Senate Bill 48. And on that question, the Gentleman from Will, Representative Van Duyne."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I resist Amendment #4. It absolutely negates all the attempt that we have had over the past 2 or 3 years to resolve this problem. It puts us back at square 1, as we were back in 1975, puts the... all the authority back in the... into the Office of the Regional Superintendent of Educational Service Region, where the application was filed. All our efforts are down the drain, and it puts us right back to where we were in 1975. I would gladly elaborate on this, if... if... if anybody would so choose. But all of my efforts and all the efforts of Representative Steczo and the Lady from the other side of the aisle over the past years would absolutely be... would be for naught. And it would end up with the... the filing that was filed in Grundy County with the Educational Service Region back in... way back... it's 8 or 10 years old... where it would be put right back into his hands. The court, it would negate any action future... present or future action of objection from the Joliet High School District. It would negate any future action as far as court suits are concerned, and I would vehemently oppose Amendment #4."
"The Gentleman from Grundy, Representative Christensen." 85 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Thank you. Thank you, Madam Speaker. I... I very seldom get up and speak, and I certainly hate to speak against my seatmate, but he's absolutely wrong, and he knows he is wrong. It puts the authority where it belongs, and not only that, if this Amendment was not to be adopted, one of my school districts would lose about $175 million assessed valuation and not lose any students. This Amendment should be approved."
"The Gentleman from... The Lady from DuPage, Representative Cowlishaw."
"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 48 is very similar to an Amendment that was adopted in Committee. But because of some technical problems with the wording of that Amendment, it was necessary for Representative Van Duyne to submit Amendment #3, which puts the Amendment that was adopted unanimously in Committee into the proper order, and which addresses a very serious problem that is a very unique problem in his own district. Amendment #4 on the contrary denies to Representative Van Duyne the remedy that he needs for this unique problem within his own district. I believe that Representative Van Duyne does in deed need the remedy that is represented by Amendment #3. I do not believe that Amendment #4 is in accord with that, and I stand in opposition to Amendment #4."
"There being no further discussion, Currie, to close."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. Of course, it's one of those situations sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander, which district needs what kind of help. I stand with Representative Christensen, not that I think this is a single issue dispute between 2 separate legislative districts, but because the example that we have 86 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 in the situation of Joliet and the other school district. That issue here is one that's been around for, as a Gentleman standing in opposition to this Amendment pointed out, 8 to 10 years. Eight to 10 years is a long time to have a problem still unresolved between 2 separate local school districts. I think the only sensible answer is a compromise. A compromise that does involve voter approval that does not take anything out of the hands of the local school parents, and the local taxpayers. Amendment 4 to Senate Bill 48 would establish that kind of procedure to resolve a dispute a long standing dispute in a way that is fair, is even handed, is balanced, respects the local superintendent, in each area, the regional superintendents that would be involved. So that each will have a turn to have a say, and the voters in the affected areas will have their say as well. I think it's a sensible compromise, and I would appreciate your support."
"The Lady has moved for the adoption of Amendment #4 to Senate Bill 48. The question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' Representative Cullerton, for what reason do you rise?"
"Yes, I just wondered if... if the Sponsor would yield?"
"The Lady has closed, Representative."
"Oh, okay. Well, I just... no I didn't want to ask, her a question. I just wanted to know if she'd yield."
"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #4 to Senate Bill 48 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 51 voting 'aye', 47 voting 'no', and 8 voting 'present'. Representative Van Duyne, for what reason do you rise?" 87 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Yes, Mam, seeing the vote up there, I would like to for the first time in my 11 years here verify the Roll Call."
"Representative Christensen, for what reason do you rise?"
"First of all, to thank the ones that voted green. But secondly, my first time in 9 years, I'd like to ask for a Poll of the Absentees."
"Poll the absentees, Mr. Clerk."
"Poll of the Absentees. Breslin. Brunsvold. Bullock. DeJaegher. Ewing. Homer. Klemm. Laurino. McNamara. White. Woodyard. Wyvetter Younge. No further."
"Would you poll the negative votes?"
"Barger. Barnes. Churchill. Countryman."
"Excuse me. Verify the affirmative, Mr. Clerk. I'm sorry."
"Poll of the Affirmative. Alexander. Berrios. Bowman. Braun. Brookins. Capparelli. Christensen. Cullerton. Curran. Currie. DeLeo. Dunn. Farley. Flowers. Giglio. Giorgi. Greiman. Hannig. Hartke. Hicks. Hoffman. Huff. Keane. Krska. Kulas. Levin. Matijevich. McGann. McPike. O'Connell. Olson. Pangle. Phelps. Preston. Rea. Rice. Richmond. Ronan. Ropp. Saltsman. Satterthwaite. Shaw. Soliz. Stern. Sutker. Terzich. Vitek. Waite. Washington. Anthony Young. And Mr. Speaker."
"Representative Van Duyne, do you have any questions of the affirmative roll?"
"Yes, thank you. Representative Preston."
"Representative Preston. How is the Gentleman recorded?"
"The Gentleman..." 88 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"The Gentleman is in the chamber."
"Olson."
"Representative Olson is in his seat."
"Phelps."
"Representative Phelps is in his seat."
"Hartke."
"Representative Hartke is in his seat."
"Krska."
"Representative Krska is in his seat."
"Representative Cullerton."
"Representative Cullerton. Representative Cullerton. How is the Gentleman recorded?"
"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."
"Remove him. Representative Cullerton has returned to the chamber, add him to the Roll Call."
"Representative Farley."
"Representative Farley is in the chamber."
"Giorgi."
"Representative Giorgi is in the chamber."
"Representative Shaw."
"Representative Shaw. Representative Shaw. How is the Gentleman recorded?"
"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."
"The Gentleman is in the chamber."
"Representative Stern."
"Representative Stern. Is the Lady in the chamber? Remove her. She is in the chamber. She's returned to the chamber. Add her... keep her on the Roll Call."
"Representative Vitek. Unless he's laying down, he can't be here."
"Representative Vitek is in his seat. Do you have any further questions of the affirmative roll? 89 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Representative Ewing, for what reason do you rise?"
"What... what is the count on this?"
"51 voting 'aye' and 47 voting 'no'."
"So, the Amendment will be adopted?"
"That's correct."
"Yes. Well, my great respect for the Sponsor of the Amendment, I'd like to be added to the positive Roll Call."
"The Gentleman, Representative Ewing, would ask to be recorded as voting 'aye'. Representative Van Duyne, you're losing ground."
"When you're down, it don't make much difference if you go further, does it? Can I challenge the Speaker?"
"The Lady is not voting out of respect for you, Sir."
"Thank you. I'm talking about the one designated as Speaker on the tote board."
"You may, however, I know that the Gentleman is in the building, and it has been the policy not to challenge either the Speaker or the Minority Leader as a courtesy, Sir."
"Okay. No further questions."
"On this question, there are 52 voting 'aye', and 47 voting 'no', and the... Representative Van Duyne."
"But I'm just going to get a Roll Call anyway."
"There are 52 voting 'aye', 47 voting 'no', and 8 voting 'present', and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 60, Representative D'Arco (Senator D'Arco)... Representative Tate - Nash. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 60, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Insurance Code. Second Reading of the 30 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Amendment #1 lost in Committee. Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Laurino."
"Representative Laurino on Amendment #2. The Gentleman is not in the chamber. What is your pleasure, Representative Nash? Representative Nash moves to table Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 60. All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is tabled. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Laurino."
"Representative Laurino is not in the chamber. Representative Cullerton, for what reason do you rise? Out of the record. Senate Bill 75, Representative Alexander. 'Representative Alexander. Clerk, read the Bill, on Senate Bill 75."
"Senate Bill 75, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Unemployment Insurance Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"The... there is a fiscal note requested. Has that been filed?"
"Fiscal note is not filed."
"Excuse me, Mr. Clerk."
"The fiscal note is not filed."
"The Bill, therefore, must remain on the Order of Second Reading, Representative Alexander. Senate Bill 77, Representative Ewing. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 77, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill." 91 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. With permission of the House, we would like to go back to Senate Bill 60. Representative Laurino is back on the floor. So, Senate Bill 60."
"Senate Bill 60, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Insurance Code. Amendment #1 lost in Committee. Floor Amendment #2 was tabled. Floor Amendment #3 offered by Representative Laurino."
"Representative Laurino on Amendment #3."
"Madam Speaker and Members of the House, basically what Amendment #3 to House Bill... or Senate Bill 60 does is it removes a cap on the recovery for punitive damages incurred with an insurance company, and I move for the adoption of the Bill... the Amendment."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 60. And on that question, the Gentleman from Macon, Representative Tate."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in opposition to Amendment 3. Senate Bill 60 is... which is Senator D'Arco's Bill, was an agreed Bill by the insurance industry as... and passed out of the Senate 59... or 57 to 0. And I have agreed as well as with the Sponsor... the Senate Sponsor on this that if an Amendment such as this would go on it, I would be forced to table the Bill. And so, for the following reasons, I would rise in opposition what we... what the Sponsor of this Amendment is essentially doing is changing the entire mechanism of how we're determining punitive damages. The Bill itself is already a 400 percent increase. You know, for those reasons I would oppose the Amendment, and ask for a 'no' vote on it. The Gentleman from Cook, Representative 92 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Nash."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Nash."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I too rise in opposition to this Amendment for the same reasons that Representative Tate just stated."
"Representative Laurino to close."
"I ask for a Roll Call on the vote."
"Well, Madam Speaker, it's not the idea that we're changing the conception of how punitive damages are to be judged. What it's doing, is taking the cap off, because the cap is relatively small when you consider the... the problems that people have in collecting the... what is due them, when a company wants to go belly up and not pay their debts. So, my idea is you know on a 5,000 or a 25,000 dollar cap, it's a slap on the wrist and doesn't mean nothing. This would act as a deterrent for these people to be paying their debts accordingly, and I ask for a favorable vote on the Amendment."
"The... the question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 60 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 26 voting 'aye', 63 voting 'no' and none voting 'present', and the Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 89, Representative Woodyard - Keane. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 89, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Revenue Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions filed?"
"No Motions filed." 93 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third... Representative Cullerton. Representative Cullerton."
"I'm sorry, Madam Speaker. I had a question about Amendment #1 which was adopted in Committee. So, I'll ask the question on Third Reading."
"The Bill moves to Third Reading. Senate Bill 91, Representative Dunn. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 91, a Bill for an Act in relation to support and maintenance and amends Acts herein named. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Motions filed... or are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Johnson."
"Representative Johnson. The Gentleman is not in the chamber, Representative Dunn. What is your pleasure? Out of the record. Senate Bill 95, Representative Barger. Clerk... Out of the record. Senate Bill 97, Representative McCracken. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 97, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions filed?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 112, Representative Washington. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 112, a Bill for an Act to create the Environmental Toxicology Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments." 34 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Washington."
"Representative Washington."
"Yes, Madam Chairman, Members of the House, this... Amendment #1 basically is some... making some technical correction, and I move for a favorable vote on Amendment #1."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 112, and on that question is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall... Representative Piel, for what reason do you rise?"
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield, please?"
"The Gentleman will yield for a question."
"Representative Washington, would you do us a favor? You said it makes technical corrections, would you mind explaining exactly what the Amendment does, please?"
"Yes, for example, on line... line 6 and line 32 by changing from line 6 and line 32 by inserting after 'means', on page 2 and line 23 by deleting 'work place', and line 30 by deleting 'toxic' and inserting in lieu of there 'hazardous', in line 31 by deleting 'or work place'. These are the technical changes that were necessary in terms of the word itself. The basic... the Amendment is basically a good Amendment... Amendment to the Bill, and it doesn't change things in any major scope."
"Well, you want to explain exactly what the... are you changing the days and analysis... changing an initial assessment within 75 days, what exactly do you mean by that?"
"Well, the purpose of that to transmit... of 95 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 municipalities with counties within 75 days of request. According to this Amendment, such requests shall be made in the Department within 14 days of the filing of the application, and then the Department shall transmit its evaluation, after they get their findings, to the municipality or county within 75 days of request. That is a time frame in which they have to respond after giving their evaluation."
"Fine. Thank you very much. No further questions."
"There being no further discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 112 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Representative Washington, this Bill remains on the Order of Second Reading until you supply all of the notes requested. Senate Bill 114, Representative Young. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 114, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Environmental Protection Act and an Act relating to State Fire Marshals. Second Reading of the Bill."
"Are there any Motions filed?"
"Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee, and no Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 120, Representative Kulas - Terzich. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 120, a Bill for an Act to revise the law in relation to Casimir Pulaski's birthday. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments." 96 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 122, Representative Nash. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 122, a Bill for an Act in relation to lost and abandoned boats. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 137, Representative Mautino. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 137, a Bill for an Act in relation to the use of automobile repairs and rebuilders. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Koehler."
"Representative Koehler."
"Madam Speaker, I withdraw Amendment #1."
"Withdraw Amendment #1. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 141, Representative Giorgi - Cullerton. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 141, a Bill for an Act concerning the terms of office of various state commissioners and board members. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions filed?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 144, Representative 97 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Steczo. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 144, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Steczo."
"Representative Steczo."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. Senate Bill 144 is a Bill that deals with stun guns and tasers. In the definition of stun guns and tasers in the context of the Bill, they're treated as one. Although in other portions of the Bill the two items are treated separately. Working with the Department of Law Enforcement, we have come up with a definition of stun gun and a separate definition of taser, which are included in Amendment #1. This seeks to clarify these two items. So, any reference to the other portions of the statute included within the context of the Bill will be more understandable. I will... I would move for the adoption of Amendment #1."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 144, and on that question is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 144 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 164, Representative Pangle. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 164, a Bill for an Act to provide for partial rights of recovery for damages resulting from sale 98 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 of illegal drugs to minors. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Hartke... no... Hawkinson."
"Representative Hawkinson. Representative Hawkinson."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 164 attempts to eliminate what would be a problem with the Narcotics Profit Forfeiture Act that exists now by deleting the Section that would allow the parents to go after the profits of the drug deal which would be in conflict with current law. Whereby, law enforcement may go after those profits and have them seized so that they can be used in the fight against drugs, and I would ask for an 'aye' vote on Amendment #1."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 164, and on that question is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 164 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 169, Representative Bullock - Saltsman. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 169, a Bill for an Act in relation to the funding of certain metropolitan exhibition civic center authorities. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions filed?"
"No Motions filed." 99 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 176, Representative Mautino. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 176, a Bill for an Act to establish the Community Fire Protection Grant Program. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 179, Representative McCracken. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 179, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Code of Criminal Procedure. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1..."
"Representative Cullerton, for what reason do you rise?"
"Yes, I just would ask the Sponsor to take it out of the record for a few minutes."
"Out of the record. Representative McCracken."
"Fine, but we get back to it?"
"We'll try to."
"No. No."
"Out of the record. Senate Bill 200, Representative Braun - Young. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 200, a Bill for an Act to provide for the assistant director of apprenticeship and training for programs and systems of apprenticeship. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Saltsman." 100 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Representative Saltsman."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This Amendment is similar to a Bill that we passed out earlier that is currently over at the center... the Senate. And it's kind of a backup Bill on prevailing wage. I ask for the passage."
"Representative Saltsman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 200. And on that question, the Gentleman... Representative Braun, for what reason do you rise?"
"I rise as Sponsor of Senate Bill 200. I don't know how it got called in my absence. I really want the Bill out..."
"Representative Young asked that the Bill be called, Representative Braun."
"Oh. Well, I'd like to take the Bill out of the record."
"Out of the record."
"Thank you."
"Senate Bill 201, Representative Cullerton - Pangle. Out of the record. Senate Bill 204, Representative Ronan. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 204, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Juvenile Court Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Representative Ronan, we still need a fiscal note filed on this Bill. So, it remains on the Order of Second Reading. Senate Bill 205, Representative Cullerton - Nash. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 205, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Juvenile Court Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?" 101 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Cullerton."
"Representative Cullerton."
"I'd like to take the Bill out of the record, please."
"Out of the record. Senate Bill 206, Representative Cullerton. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 206, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions filed?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Representative Cullerton, for what reason do you rise?"
"I'd like to take this out of the record, please."
"Out of the record. Senate Bill 209, Representative Cullerton. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 209, a Bill for an Act to award income tax deductions to businesses which contribute money or resources to community groups. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Bowman."
"Representative Bowman."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 is identical to House Bill 596, which passed the Committee last... this spring and got caught in the log jam just before deadline time. That Bill in turn was identical to one which passed both chambers the year before, and was vetoed by the Governor. It is permissive legislation. It simply permits and authorizes the 102 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Department of Law Enforcement to provide grants to units of local government for gang crime control. I see no reason why anyone should oppose it, because it is permissive legislation. It deals with an important issue of gang crime control, which I think we all are concerned with, and... So, I move for the adoption of Amendment #1."
"Representative Bowman moves the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 209. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Piel."
"Question of the Sponsor, please."
"Proceed."
"Representative Bowman, you said this was identical to House Bill 596."
"Yes, Sir."
"Our analysis shows it's identical to House Bill 597."
"I stand corrected."
"There is a difference between the two. Where's the Department of Law Enforcement stand on this Amendment?"
"I don't know... the Department of Law Enforcement is... works for the Republican administration, can you enlighten me?"
"Well, I'll tell... first of all I didn't hear your answer. But why don't you explain the Amendment to a little further detail?..."
"Well, it's a very simple... Okay, Representative Piel. It's a very simple Amendment. The... the Amendment simply authorizes the Department of Law Enforcement to provide grants to units of local government and school districts for purposes of gaining... controlling gang crime activity. It also does have them set up a office of gang crime control coordination, I believe is the name in the Amendment, to provide technical assistance to units of local government." 103 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Aren't you basically setting up a social agency or a social department in a... in a law department... isn't this... wouldn't this better be served on another Bill?..."
"Representative... Representative Piel. Representative Piel, we're talking about gang crime control. I mean gangs aren't social clubs. Gangs are law breaking entities. This is where the Amendment belongs, Representative Piel. If you think gangs are social clubs, you've been spending to much time in your sheltered suburb down there in south Cook County."
"Well, that could be. That could be, too. But you know, a lot of the social clubs that I see, you know, could be classified as gangs. I mean you don't have to... you don't have to get, you know, testy about it. I just asked a simple question, you know. I mean... I noticed you're laughing. Maybe you think the Amendment is humorous. I don't think it's really humorous myself. Question, what would this cost the State of Illinois if enacted?"
"Well, Representative Piel, the cost would be driven solely by the appropriations process. That is to say it's not an entitlement program. There is no formula in here, or some mechanical artifice that would automatically generate dollars. It would be whatever the General Assembly and the Administration in their joint wisdom felt was appropriate."
"Well, you're the Sponsor of it, Representative. I mean you're making cute little remarks before, but you're the Sponsor of this. You should have some idea of what it's going to cost the State of Illinois, the taxpayers of Illinois."
"Well, I'll tell you what I..."
"Is it a dollar, a million dollars, a hundred million, what?" 104 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Well, I'll tell you if you think this will help. After the Bill passed a year ago in the... then in Conference Committee we put in a quarter of a million dollars to the Department of Law Enforcement in the Conference Committee Report a year ago."
"You said you put in how much in a Conference Committee?"
"$250,000. One quarter of a million."
"$250,000 for starters."
"Yes, Sir."
"Just for starters. Alright. Now, what's it going to cost... is it going to be $250,000 every year then to the State of Illinois?"
"Well, we only appropriate on a year-by-year basis. I can't tell you, Sir."
"Do we have any other programs in the state right now dealing with gang crime prevention?"
"We don't have any that provide state support to local governments. I mean I think that's very important. The state should provide support to local governments. After all, gangs do travel back and forth across municipal boundaries, and are a scourge to some small communities adjacent to larger communities with gangs. I think we have to provide state support to local communities."
"No further questions, Madam Speaker."
"Representative Woodyard."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"He will yield for a question."
"I missed part of the early discussion on this Amendment. Is there an appropriation for this?"
"Thank you, Madam... Madam Speaker. In response to the second question about appropriation that I've received so far, there is no appropriation in the budget at the present time because the law doesn't exist. A year ago, we passed 105 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 an identical piece of legislation. The Governor vetoed it. When we passed that legislation before adjourning on June 30, the Conference Committee put in $250,000 appropriation to the Department of Law Enforcement, which the Governor also vetoed. But that's what we thought, at that time, would take to do the job. $250,000."
"Are you saying then that the Governor is opposed to this program? Since he vetoed the appropriation last year?"
"Since he vetoed it, I presume that he's opposed to it. However, since I'm willing to give him another chance. He may have made a mistake. We all make mistakes. I forgive him. I'm willing to give him another chance."
"Well, Madam Speaker, to the Amendment. Since the arrows are flying out on the second floor, I think I will stay with the Governor's position and be in opposition to the Amendment."
"There being no further discussion, Representative Bowman, to close."
"Well, I'm just surprised and dismayed that the Governor of the State would oppose a legitimate effort to provide state support to local governments that are grappling with the problem of gang crime control. I move adoption of this Amendment."
"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 209 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 57 voting 'aye', 40 voting 'no', none voting 'present', and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Representative Cullerton, a fiscal note has 106 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 been filed as amended. So, the Bill remains on the Order of Second Reading. Ladies and Gentlemen, we are going to go to the Order of Consent Calendar Third Reading, Second Day, on page 35 on your Calendar. The Clerk is now going to read those Bills that have been removed from that Order. Mr. Clerk."
"Consent Calendar Third Reading, Second Day. One Bill has been objected to, Senate Bill 891, is removed from the Consent Calendar. All other Bills have been read a third time previously today."
"The question is, 'Shall all of the Bills on the Consent Calendar on Third Reading, Second Day pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On these questions, there are 114 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. These Bills, having received the Constitutional Majority, are hereby declared passed. We learned that there is an objection to one Bill on the Consent Calendar, Senate Bill 829. Representative Giorgi therefore moves to reconsider the vote by which Senate Bill 829 was passed. All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 107 voting 'aye', 2 voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. And this House does move to reconsider the vote by which Senate Bill 829 passed. This Bill, therefore, is on the Order of Third Reading Short Debate. And since it is objected to, it has reverted to Second Reading Short Debate Calendar, Second Legislative Day. Ladies and Gentlemen, with the indulgence of the Members, the Chair would like to go to those Bills that appear on the Special Order of Business that need to 107 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 be moved from Second to Third. So, that they are ready for action on Third Reading on Thursday. The first Order of Business, as you can see on page 2, is Agriculture. Senate... the first Bill that needs to be moved is Senate Bill 254, Representative Ronan. It appears on page 18 on your Calendar. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 254, a Bill for an Act relating to gasohol and amends Acts herein named. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions filed?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 418, Representative Hartke. It appears on page 19 on your Calendar. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 418, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to the regulation of the rivers, lakes and streams of the State of Illinois. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Motions filed?"
"No Committee Amendments and no Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 875, Representative Ropp. It appears on page 13 on your Calendar. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 875, a Bill for..."
"Out of the record. The next Order of Business is Business and Economic Development. The first Bill that needs to be moved on that Order is Senate Bill 319, Representative Homer. It appears on page 10 on your Calendar. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 319, a Bill for an Act to authorize the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs to 109 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 designate high pact business... high impact business and provide for various tax incentives related thereto. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions filed or Floor Amendments?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Representative Braun, for what reason do you rise?"
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. During this lull in activity, I'd like to announce the presence today in the gallery of interns from Chicago State University under the direction of Dr. Sesay. Alright."
"There they are. Welcome."
"Thank you."
"On the Order of Senate Bills Second Reading on page 17 on your Calendar the next Bill to be called is Senate Bill 214, Representative Terzich - McNamara. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 214, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Revenue Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions filed?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 215, Representative Zito (sic - Senator Zito) and Ronan. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 215, a Bill for an Act to establish high impact training service programs. Second Reading of 109 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Didrickson."
"Representative Didrickson."
"Yes. Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 215 is an agreed Amendment by Representative Ronan and McNamara. It is also been suggested by the State Chamber of Commerce. It deletes the displaced worker proviso and concentrates the limited resources of $2 million to be appropriated next year to the State Board of Education for the HITS Program. And it creates the Illinois High Impact Training Services Fund in the State Treasury."
"The Lady has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 215. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."
"Yes, would the Sponsor yield?"
"She will yield for a question."
"Yes."
"I would... I would ask a question of the Sponsor, if she'll yield for a question."
"Yes."
"She will yield for a question."
"I understood that this was Representative Ronan's Bill is that correct?"
"That's correct."
"And is he here?"
"I don't see him, but I did speak to him yesterday. And he agreed to it..."
"As... as I understand it, as I read the Amendment, he should be opposed to it."
"Well, he wasn't when I spoke to him. If we want to 110 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 hold this until he comes back, so that I..."
"I think we better... right."
"I'd be glad to."
"The way I read it, I think he'd be opposed to it."
"Out of the record. Senate Bill 217, Representative Young. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 217, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act concerning public utilities. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Representative Giorgi moves to reconsider the vote by which Senate Bill 1398 passed. That recently passed on the Consent Calendar. Representative Giorgi having voted on the prevailing side moves to reconsider the vote by which Senate Bill 1398 was passed. All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This Motion is being made at the request of the Sponsor of the Bill. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 100 voting 'aye', 3 voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. And... Representative McNamara wishes to be recorded as voting 'aye'. There are therefore 101 voting 'aye', 3 voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. And this Bill has been reconsidered, and therefore, goes to the Order of Second Reading Short Debate Calendar, Second Legislative Day. Ladies and Gentlemen, we are now going to go to the Order of Senate Bills Third Reading, Short Debate Calendar, starting on page 3 on your Calendar. On page 3 on your Calendar, appears Senate Bill 7, Representative Oblinger. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 7, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill." 111 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Representative Oblinger."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the General Assembly. At this time, we give scholarships to the children of MIA's and POW's. This would say that... that the children who are not able to accept these scholarships because they are mentally or physically disabled should be allowed the amount of money that they would have had for scholarships for training and... mostly for training for the people that could not accept scholarships."
"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 7, and on that question is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 7 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? This is final action. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 38, Representative Mautino. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 38, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act in relation to foreign trade zones. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Mautino."
"Thank you very much, Madam Chairman. House Bill 38 (sic - Senate Bill 38) sponsored by Representative Mautino and Breslin addresses the foreign trade zones and the provisions that were in the initial legislation. That the 50 mile radius, reduces it to 35 miles within an existing port area. That is the legislation. Amendment #1, which was added to this legislation, changes the name of the Chicago Regional Port District to the Act. The Chicago Regional Port District Act to the Illinois International 112 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Port District Act. That's basically what the legislation does."
"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 38, and on that question does anyone stand in opposition? Seeing no opposition, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 38 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? This is final action. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 118 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 40, Representative Wyvetter Younge. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 40, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Election Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Younge."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This Bill amends the Election Code and increases from 400 to 600 the number of voters in a precinct and then it makes the maximum number of voters from 600 to 800. I move for the adoption of the Bill."
"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 40, does anyone stand in opposition? The Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."
"Yes, Madam Speaker, will the Sponsor yield for a question?"
"She will yield for a question."
"Representative, I did not catch the thrust of your remarks. Would you explain the Bill again, please?"
"Right now the minimum size of a precinct is 400, and the Bill would move that minimum size to 600. The maximum size of a precinct is 600, and it would move that maximum size to 800."
"Thank you." 113 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"The Gentleman from Marion, Representative Friedrich."
"Would the Sponsor yield?"
"She will yield for a question."
"I was under the impression that the Constitution provides that the election laws be uniform throughout the state. Wouldn't this be in violation of the uniform laws?"
"There is no opposition to this Bill..."
"I understand that."
"It does not violate... would not violate the Constitution."
"You don't think this is... creates a special arrangement for St. Clair County?"
"No, I don't."
"No one is standing in opposition. The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 40 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? This is final action. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 62, Representative DeJaegher. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 62, a Bill for an Act to provide funding for alzheimer's disease research. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative DeJaegher."
"Thank you, Madam Chairman, Members of the Assembly. I believe that all of us are looking for the adoption of this Bill. This is one of a series of ten dealing with alzheimer's, and I think that citizens of the State of Illinois are looking to us for response. What it does is establish the new Income Tax Checkoff Program for 114 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Alzheimer's Disease Research, and authorizes the Department of Public Health to award research grants to physicians, hospitals, labratories, educational institutions and others from the funds collected thereof. I appreciate a positive vote. Thank you."
"Representative DeJaegher has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 62, does anyone stand in opposition? Seeing no one standing in opposition, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 62 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 90, Representative Flinn. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill..."
"Excuse me. Representative Flinn. Out of the record. Senate Bill 86, Representative McAuliffe. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 86, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Humane Care for Animals Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative McAuliffe."
"Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Senate Bill 86 is a Bill to combat illegal dog fighting in Illinois. What it does, it requires the veternarians to report dogs that they are suspected were involved in dog fighting to the authorities. I move for its passage."
"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 86. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."
"Yes, would the Sponsor yield?" 115 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"He will yield for a question."
"If they... this Bill deals with dog fighting, and my question is, if they got a violation, and they got to take them to court, do they... do they have to confiscate the dogs and bring them in the court? Because I think it says they have to give possession to the court."
"Well, I don't know if they'd bring the dogs into court."
"Well, what does it mean to say, give possession to the court?"
"Maybe they're going to bring the dogs into the judge's backroom, and let them talk to the judge."
"I think that's what it says, you know. How about the..."
"John, if you still have a problem with it, I'll take it out of the record. I know you had a problem with it."
"Yes. That's right. That's right. I forgot."
"This was one we wanted to amend maybe for those technical problems and... alright..."
"Out of the record."
"You wouldn't mind taken..."
"I'll take it out of the record."
"Okay. Out of the record. Senate Bill 113, Representative Phelps. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 113, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Environmental Protection Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Phelps."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This amends the Environmental Protection Act, adds a requirement that will be a suitable emergency response plan as one of the criteria of the county board government body of municipalities should consider in regard to the approval site location suitable 116 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 for regional pollution control. I move the passage of this Bill."
"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 113, does anyone stand in opposition? Seeing no one standing in opposition, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 113 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question... Representative Shaw, for what reason is your light shining? Representative Shaw. On this question, there are 118 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 172, Representative Ronan - Wolf. Out of the record. Senate Bill 193, Representative... Representative Christensen, for what reason do you rise?"
"Yes, Madam Speaker, I was away from my seat when Senate Bill 62 was voted on. I would like the record to indicate I would have voted 'yes'."
"The record will so reflect that. Senate Bill 193, Representative Young. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 193, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to create the Department of Children and Family Services. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Andrew Young... Anthony."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 193 enables the Department of Children and Family Services to promulgate regulations to encourage all adoption agencies to forward names and addresses of persons who have applied for and have been approved as adoptive homes for hard to place or handicapped children. The Bill was introduced to create more widespread distribution of available case information regarding 117 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 placements for hard to place, special needs children. I urge a favorable vote."
"Representative Young has moved the passage of Senate Bill 193, does anyone stand in opposition? The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative McCracken."
"I don't oppose it. I just wondered, do they need to be told to promulgate regulations?"
"Representative Young."
"It's my understanding the Department needs this rule to be able to spread information throughout this state. Some of this information would be privileged as to people who want these children, or as to some of the hard to place children's particular histories."
"Okay. But it's permissive that it encourages the forwarding of the information, but cannot require it."
"That is correct."
"Okay. Thank you."
"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 193 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 115... 116 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 211, Representative Saltsman. Out of the record. Senate Bill 244, Representative Weaver. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 244, a Bill for an Act in relation to motor fuel tax identification devices. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Weaver. Representative Weaver. Weaver."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. Senate 118 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Bill 244 makes a couple of changes in the motor fuel tax laws. It allows semi truck drivers who are now required to post a permit decal on the right side of the windshield to also carry the cards on the inside without displaying the cards. It exempts school buses from displaying the motor fuel stickers, and it also allows normal buses to display the motor fuel tax stickers on the driver's side of the vehicle. It increases the penalty for failure to display a permit from $75 to a $500 fine. And I would ask for your passage on this Bill."
"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 244, does anyone stand in opposition? With no one standing in opposition, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 244 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'aye', 3 voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill... Representative Mulcahey wishes to be recorded as voting 'aye'. There are therefore 111 voting 'aye', 3 voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 247, Representative Phelps. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 247, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act to revise the law in relation to coroners. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Phelps."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This just allows the coroner the provision also to join his other former... or his other colleagues in the courthouse to maintain a special fund for travel, for seminars, and educational workshops, and his office." 119 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 247, does anyone stand in opposition? With no one standing in opposition, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 247 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'aye', 4 voting 'no', none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 281, Representative Hartke. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 281, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning fees and salaries. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Hartke."
"Yes, Madam Speaker, Members of the House, this Bill provides for the sheriff to collect a fee when he attempts to serve a summons whether he gets that summons served or not, he gets his fee for that attempt. I'd appreciate an affirmative vote."
"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 281. Does anyone stand in opposition? The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative McCracken."
"Does Cook County currently have the authority to collect fees for attempted unsuccessful service?"
"Yes, they do."
"Alright. And you seek to have the rest of the state treated like Cook County."
"That's a fact."
"That's a very unusual position for your side of the aisle. Have you cleared this with leadership?"
"I don't have to."
"Okay." 120 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"The Gentleman from Dekalb, Representative Countryman."
"Will the Sponsor yield?"
"He will yield for a question."
"Yes, Representative Hartke, sometimes the sheriff has to go back to a residence or place of a vote more than once to effectuate service. Does he get one fee for attempts, or can he charge for everytime he goes out?"
"No, it's one fee."
"Thank you."
"The Gentleman from... there being no further discussion, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 281 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 292, Representative Ropp. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 292, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Soybean Marketing Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Ropp."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. This Bill does two things. It reduces the number of required signatures for someone seeking office on the Soybean Marketing Board from 250 to 150. And it allows for now in the fifth year to increase the checkoff of soybeans per bushel to one cent. Currently, it is a quarter of a cent for the first year, and then a half a cent for the first four years as is the statute now. This is after a referendum subject to approval. The Soybean Marketing Board is a board that attempts to promote the sale of 121 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Illinois soybeans throughout the world. I urge your favorable support."
"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 292. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Representative Ropp, I have not received a lot of letters about this Bill from my district."
"Sorry."
"The Soybean Marketing Act is just not something which is on the minds of the people there, but I do want to ask you a question because it does seem to impose some kind of a tax on... per bushel on soybean production. And I'm just wondering if you could tell us, you know, who has to pay the tax, and who gets to spend the money, and what's it for?"
"First of all, I regret very much that members of your district did not take as much interest in this important Bill, as they did with the lights at Wrigley Field."
"Yes, I have the Roll Call here, too, and I see that you voted 'no'."
"That's right. I was on the side of baseball. What it actually does, it's not a tax, it's a checkoff subject to the approval of the majority of those voting. Those people being soybean producers throughout the State of Illinois. Those monies go into a fund that are appropriated by the marketing board to come up with new uses of soybeans such as, plastics, and any number of more than a 1,000 different uses of soybean in an attempt to provide greater markets for Illinois soybeans."
"Okay. And then this tax right now or checkoff is a half a cent, and you want to raise it to a cent."
"That is correct." 122 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"And that would bring in about... that doubles it, and it would bring in about what? Three million more dollars into the..."
"That's correct."
"That seems like a lot of money to spend marketing soybeans. Six million dollars total. Has that raised the cost of the soybeans to the people in my district?"
"No, it doesn't raise the cost, because producers are the ones that are taking that money out of their own pocket before they ever get it. If you actually look at the industry let's say of any alcoholic beverage, Coca Cola, Pepsi Cola, they spend many many more dollars in the promotion of their product. And we're just saying that those people who are in the production of soybeans will be given that option to contribute more money to a fund that will sell more soybeans grown in Illinois in this state and throughout the world."
"Do you have a lot of soybean producers in your district?"
"Yes, Sir."
"Well, I'm going to support your... your district. This is obviously something that doesn't affect my district, but it is important for your district. And if you think it's important... I think if it's a matter of local concern, I think we should give you your support on this Bill, and pass this Bill out of here."
"I appreciate your concern and support, and I'd be almost added... happy to add you as a hyphenated Cosponsor if you'd like to go on."
"Well, I'll just indicate for the record that I'll vote 'aye'."
"Thank you."
"Ladies and Gentlemen, it should be noted the 123 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 camera light is on, and that there are people taking pictures in the gallery. Does anyone stand in opposition to this Bill that is on Short Debate? Representative Ewing."
"Can I ask a question?"
"You may. Proceed."
"Is this increase in the checkoff, is there any kind of referendum in there?"
"Yes, there is. There is a referendum."
"And... Gordy, sometimes I think you forget your district, your new district. Where do they grow the soybeans now on North Main Street in Bloomington, or...?"
"Just on the other side of Division Street."
"Oh, okay. Thank you."
"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 292 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 298, Representative Wojcik. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 298, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Wojcik."
"Yes, Madam Speaker and Members of the House, this Bill is identical to House Bill 314, which we passed so soundly. What it refers to is the fact that we can levy a fine to small businesses or restaurants that have been involved in selling liquor to young adults that are not of age. We have one Amendment which also gives the counties the power to levy fines for violations under the Liquor Control Act. I move its passage." 124 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 298, does anyone stand in opposition? No one standing in opposition, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 298 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? This is final action. The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'aye', 6 voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 301, Representative Cullerton. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 301, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Cullerton."
"Yes. Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill was introduced in the Senate at the request of the Illinois State Bar Association to clarify the role of public insurance adjusters. It prohibits adjusters from representing that they may provide legal advice or representation to the insured as well as prohibit the provision of legal advice and engage in unauthorized practice of law. It requires adjusters to keep records of the name of the attorneys representing the insured and the reps name of the insurance company. And would allow for adjusters to represent the insureds on the weekends. I'd be happy to answer any questions."
"Representative Cullerton has moved the passage of Senate Bill 301, does anyone stand in opposition? Representative Vinson."
"Yes, I wonder if the Gentleman might yield for a question?"
"He will yield for a question."
"Representative, it's my understanding there's already a statute on the books in Illinois that prohibits anybody not 125 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 licensed as a lawyer from engaging in the practice of law. What is the need for this given that statute?"
"Well, apparently the Bar Association felt that there was some perhaps specific infringement by public adjusters in that they were... they were trying to give legal advice. And they just felt that it would be helpful to have right in the public adjusters Article of the Insurance Code a specific prohibition against representing that they are an attorney or giving legal advice. It also does a couple of other things. The Bill also requires adjusters to keep records of the name of the attorney representing the insured, and the name of the insurance company rep. And it also allows for adjusters to represent people on the weekends."
"Does the Bill prohibit an attorney who is also an adjuster from giving legal advice?"
"No, it does not, and there are a few public adjusters that I know that are attorneys. I've run this by them, and they have no objection to the Bill. The way the Bill is written, it certainly allows them to continue to practice law."
"But they could not represent the person whom they had adjusted?"
"Well, that's... I don't see why that would be the case. I believe that they could."
"Well, it says on page 3, line 5, it says, 'a public insurance adjuster may not provide legal advice for representation to the insured'."
"Right. That... as a public adjuster he could not, but if you're proposing a situation where he also is an attorney, and there's certainly no prohibition on an attorney providing legal assistance."
"So, an attorney who's a public adjuster could provide 126 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 legal advice and representation to the insured."
"Yes."
"Okay. Thank you."
"Does anyone stand in opposition? The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Rice."
"May I address the..."
"Ask a question. Proceed."
"Representative Cullerton, in many claims in the area of fire, a person relies upon the public adjuster to make settlements, make basic decisions as it relates to that claim. Now, would you consider that acting as a lawyer or could you describe to me what role he would be... acting as a lawyer?"
"Well, we just... we don't want to change what they do as public adjusters. What we're saying is that they can't represent themselves as an attorney. That was the genesis of the Bill. There was some public adjusters who were saying... representing that they were an attorney, and that was the need for the Bill. Public adjusters can continue to provide advise with regard to settling of claims. That's what they do for a living."
"Dealing with a particular claim."
"Right."
"Thank you."
"The Gentleman from McClain, Representative Ropp."
"Madam Speaker, I just had a question of the Sponsor."
"Quickly."
"Yes. Is this important for your district?"
"It's for the whole state. This one's for the whole state."
"Okay. I'll vote for it anyway."
"Thank you." 127 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 301 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 117 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Ladies and Gentlemen, we are now going to go back with leave of the Assembly to consider those Bills that need to move from Second to Third so that they can be heard on Special Orders of Business tomorrow. We had gotten to Business and Economic Development. The next Bill on that Order of Call is Senate Bill 320 sponsored by Representative Ronan. It appears on page 18 on your Calendar. Representative Ronan. Representative Homer."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would ask leave with Representative Ronan's prior instructions to handle the Bill."
"Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing no objections, the Gentleman has leave. Senate Bill 320. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 320, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Ronan, amends Senate Bill 320 on page one and so forth."
"Representative Homer. Represent..."
"Thank you. Thank you, Madam Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, the Bill itself actually amends the Civil Administrative Code to provide and allow for grants up to 50 percent of unemployment and workers' compensation insurance costs to new manufacturing facilities which 128 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 locate in Illinois which employ a hundred people or more. The Amendment is simply a technical Amendment that was suggested by the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs to make clear that the corporations who apply would make the application to the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs and further that no single grant shall exceed five million dollars in any calendar year. I would ask for support for Amendment #1."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 320. And on that question, the Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays."
"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield for a question?"
"He will."
"Did you say, Tom, that no single grant could total more than five million dollars a year?"
"Yes, thank you. I appreciate that question of clarification, Representative Mays. Actually I think I misstated. The total aggregate amount of grants that would be awarded pursuant to this Section in any one calendar year would not exceed five million. I think I said five million per application. Thank you for pointing that out."
"Thank you very much. I have problems with the underlying Bill and I think I'll save that for Third Reading. But I'm glad we got that point clarified."
"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 320 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, Tuerk, amends Senate Bill 320."
"Representative Tuerk."
"Madam Speaker, Members of the House, actually, Amendment 129 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 #2 to Senate Bill 320 merely gives everybody that's been contributing a great deal to this state the same opportunity that the new manufacturing companies have proposed in this Bill. And there can be no reason, based on public policy, really why it should differentiate between new and old businesses. Those that have contributed a great deal to the economic stability of the state should be afforded the same opportunity. I understand what is being proposed by the Bill. I just think fair is fair, and this would give all an opportunity for the same grants. So, I would move for the adoption."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate... Excuse me. This is Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 320. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."
"Yes, would the Sponsor yield?"
"He will yield for a question."
"Representative Tuerk, I may not have noticed what this Amendment did until you said the word merely."
"I didn't hear you. I've got four different meetings going on here."
"Yes. I said I probably wouldn't have noticed what this Amendment did until you used the word merely."
"Did I say merely?"
"Yes."
"I didn't mean to."
"Okay. Alright. That's number one. And then you said simply."
"Well, I don't usually use those terms on the floor, because merely and simply are generally no-nos in my vocabulary. I don't know how I made that freudian slip."
"Okay. And we don't want to tribunalize this Amendment." 130 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"That's correct."
"Now, here's the problem. The Sponsor of the Bill is not here, and apparently the Bill is on a Special Order tomorrow. So that's why we're doing Second Readings. I'd like to find out whether, in your opinion, you think he'd be opposed to this Amendment."
"I don't think he would, insofar as he's proposing the Bill to give new manufacturing firms a break like this. I think he'd probably go along with giving those companies that have been in existence for a number of years the same opportunity."
"Okay. Now, the Bill then is designed to encourage new business to come into Illinois. And your Amendment would encourage the businesses that are already here to stay."
"That's correct."
"And how much money does your Amendment involve, would you think?"
"Considerable."
"Okay. Do you have a rough idea within a couple of hundred million?"
"No, I don't have a rough idea. I just think it makes eminently good sense to do this for those that have done such a good job for us in the past."
"Okay. Well, I think that the Sponsor of the Bill, Representative Ronan, would view this as an Amendment which is somewhat hostile to the purposes of his Bill. His Bill is designed to encourage new manufacturing facilities in Illinois that employ over a hundred people. And the Amendment, obviously, by going back to all the facilities that are here - does it say prior to 1976? Boy. That this would be an enormous change in the purpose of his Bill, would involve an incredible amount of money, and I think 131 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 that the Amendment should be opposed."
"The Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."
"Yes, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Assembly, I can assure the Assembly that I understand the workings of Representative Ronan's mind as well as any Member of this chamber. I could assure... I could assure Representative Cullerton that I confer with Representative Ronan more often than Representative Cullerton does, and I understand his philosophy and purpose of government. And I can assure everybody in this chamber that Representative Ronan, if he were here and had a chance to reflect on this issue, would arrive at the conclusion immediately that this is an eminently reasonable concept, because what this concept does is to retain and generate jobs for Illinois. And there's nobody in this Assembly more committed to the idea of jobs than Representative Ronan. I know Representative Ronan would be for this, and I know that we ought to do this as a favor to Representative Ronan in addition to... favor for Illinois employers. I strongly urge adoption of this Amendment and would request a Roll Call on the issue."
"The Chair would note that you break the rules, Sir, when you take another Member's name in debate. The Gentleman from Fulton, Representative Homer. Representative Homer."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. I rise in opposition to the Gentleman's Amendment and I do so with the very thought that this Bill, Senate Bill 320, will..."
"Represent... Excuse me, Representative Homer. Representative Ful... or Representative Vinson, for what reason do you rise?"
"I think if you would consult with the Parliamentarian, 132 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 you would only find that that is, in fact, a violation of the rules if you take the name in vain. And I did not take the name in vain."
"We'll check that. Representative Homer."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Again, Representative Tuerk offers this Amendment in order to, as he indicates, include those firms that are already in the State of Illinois because, certainly, we all admit that we all have an obligation not just to attract new business to Illinois and new firms but, in fact, to help those firms that are here. Senate Bill 320, without Amendment 2, not only will attract new business to the State of Illinois, but it also will be a direct benefit to existing business. Why? Because when new firms come to the State of Illinois and employ a hundred or more new employees, where are they going to be hiring those employees? Those people will be people who are unemployed, currently drawing unemployment benefits, which result in higher unemployment and workmen's compensation premiums for existing Illinois businesses. When these people go to work for a new firm who comes to Illinois as a result of this legislation, that existing employer will be relieved of the further penalty associated with the payments of unemployment insurance attributable to that unemployed, laid off worker so that, in the end, it's a win for new business. It's a win for the State of Illinois. It's a win for existing business, and the addition of Amendment #2 does nothing but to undermine the entire Bill and to make it so expensive that it would have absolutely virtually no possibility of being implemented. I would join with Representative Cullerton. I am confident that Representative Ronan is opposed to this Amendment, and I would ask all of our colleagues to join in opposition to the Gentleman's Amendment." 133 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"The Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays."
"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. I rise in support of this Amendment. I figure if we're going to go on this kind of a policy decision in the first place, then we might as well try to be as consistent as we can be. I, however, while I support this Amendment, don't believe that it goes far enough. If an employer in this state adds a hundred new employees, they're not qualified for this grant. If the employer in this state opens a new facility in another portion of this state, the way I read the Bill they're not qualified for it. So, while this Amendment doesn't go quite far enough and why it's cut off at 1976 instead of 1965, I have no idea, but I'm going to support this Amendment simply so we can have some consistent policy if this is indeed the policy that we want to follow."
"The Gentleman from Will, Representative Regan."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. Amendment #2 addresses the problem where one manufacturer can come up and set up business next door to a manufacturer that has been in existence in the state previously and, therefore, be in a noncompetitive situation with the competitor that gets the discount. I stand in favor of this Amendment."
"The Lady from Marshall, Representative Koehler."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I, too, rise in support of Representative Tuerk's Amendment. I think many of us have been talking with a lot of groups recently about what we are doing to bring jobs and businesses to Illinois, but the second question then that they ask us is, 'What are you doing to help those existing businesses who are already here, those that are already our friends, those people that are already 134 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 creating and giving the jobs to those individuals who already live here?' They're saying to us, 'What can you do to help us? We've been here. We need help, too.' And this is one thing that we can do to help them. It is not only important to bring new jobs and industry to Illinois, it is important to say to those that are already here, 'We thank you for what you've done for us in the past. We want to keep you here. We're going to let you share in those things that we can do to create more jobs and industry for our entire state.' I firmly support this Amendment and hope you will join us in placing it on this Bill."
"The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative McCracken."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I also support the Amendment, and I think I know why 1976 was picked. And I think the reason it was picked, Representative Tuerk, is because in 1975 we had greatly liberalized rules relative to scope of benefits and level of benefits for these two programs which, over ten years, has cost Illinois much of its industrial base. Is that the reason? Will the Gentleman yield?"
"Representative Tuerk."
"Well, you raised the question which I was going to point out in my closing remarks, and you are precisely right on target."
"Well, then I think it's incumbent upon all of us, including the other side of the aisle, to support this. You know, the reason 1975 is a watershed year in our economic history is because of that liberalization. It was well intended, but, frankly, it just went too far. And ever since then, we've been paying the price. The cost to Illinois manufacturers and other businesses has risen dramatically directly as a result of that. We had a UI 135 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 bailout two years ago necessitated by this increased level of benefits and scope of benefits. We have some of the worst workmen's comp figures in the country. And our manufacturing and business climate is consistently ranked among the lowest in the nation. We, in fact, find ourselves asked to support a Bill which requires us to give a fifty percent break to attract new business. The better question is shouldn't we deal with the existing conditions? Shouldn't we seek to retain as well as attract businesses to this state? So this is a good Bill. It addresses an issue long overdue. I realize that it is an emotional issue. I realize that it's a labor issue. But it's something that should be fairly addressed, and this Amendment seeks to do that. I vote 'aye'."
Speaker Breslin: "There being no further discussion, Representative Tuerk, to close."
"Well, Madam Speaker, Members of the House, the previous speaker was very perceptive in his thoughts relative to the Amendment. I believe that if you go back to the records and inspect my voting record and the remarks that I have made on the floor of the House in the seventeen years I've been here, there is no one, and I say no one in this chamber more dedicated to the creation and retention of jobs than I. Now, we may approach it on a different appeal and; therefore, that's where philosophically we differ in our approach. But the end product and the objective are the same and that is to create and retain jobs. Now with the Bill, what is expected in the Bill is that it will attract new businesses to locate, and I applaud that effort, and I've worked to that degree and that end for a number of years. But what the Amendment speaks to is that precisely what the previous speaker remarked that back in 1975 the liberalization of work comp and unemployment insurance 136 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 benefits was so great that we have worked diligently since to try and rectify that situation. Now comes Bill... Senate Bill 320 with an idea of correcting some of that, some of the ills that were created back in the '75 Session and that's why I'm proposing Amendment #2 to this Bill because I think it will go a long way to correct many of the problems facing this state in the last ten or twelve years. And, therefore, I would urge your support and passage and adoption of the Amendment. Thank you."
"Representative Daniels, for what reason do you rise? To explain your vote. Representative Kulas, for what reason do you rise?"
"I'll explain my vote."
"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 320 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Representative Daniels, one minute to explain your vote."
"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, very briefly, because I see some... many affirmative votes up there. I want to explain to you why I'm voting 'yes'. First of all, I'm for every part of this state being an enterprise zone. I'm pro-Illinois. I want to see Illinois continue to move forward. I support this Bill. I support this Amendment, because I took the time, like some of you did, to go to Detroit to talk to General Motors to bring Saturn to Illinois and to emphasize the benefits of Illinois. But, at the same time, I recognize some of the abuses that have been brought on by the ... towards the businesses of this state by certain Members of this Legislature. This Amendment says to Illinois businesses that we love you, too. You just don't have to come into this state to be part of it. You tell John Deere, you tell Caterpillar, you tell the other businesses of this state 137 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 that you don't care for them as much as we do about new businesses you're trying to allure and then you're not telling them the truth. That's why you ought to support this Amendment proudly, to correct some of the past abuses."
"Representative Kulas, one minute to explain your vote"
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I just wonder if all those who are voting for this Amendment will also vote for a tax increase to compensate for the revenue which will be lost by the passage of this Amendment. Of course they won't. This is a blatant attempt to kill a good Bill. If you don't like the Bill, vote against the Bill, but don't try to kill the Bill by putting a bad Amendment on it. Shame on you."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk... Representative Vinson. Is Representative Vinson in the chamber? Representative Vinson, the Chair has reviewed the rules, and it should be noted that you are incorrect with regard to decorum. It is proper decorum that you not use another Member's name in debate. It has nothing... The rule says nothing about using a name in vain. The Parliamentarian advises us that that applies only to God. Representative Vinson."
"First, I wish you would take the record and then I'd like to discuss God and Representative Ronan."
"Representative Homer, for what reason do you rise?"
"Madam Speaker, I just would request that the Chair hold the Bill on Second Reading."
"We will do that after we take the record."
"And I would request that the Bill be taken out of the record." 138 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Yes. We have to... We can take it out of the record after we announce the vote on this Amendment, Representative. Once we have started with a Roll Call, we have to proceed. That is the rule. Is that acceptable? Representative Farley, for what reason do you rise?"
"Inquiry, Madam Speaker. Was Amendment #1 adopted to this Bill?"
"Mr. Clerk."
"Amendment #1 is on the Bill."
"Then, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I would like to change my vote from 'no' to 'aye', because this Amendment as... or this Bill as amended will now go back to the Senate where Senator Luft can review these Amendments. We can then discuss these Amendments and, if so, go to a Conference Committee. So, Madam Speaker, I would like to change my vote from 'no' to 'aye'."
"The vote is still open, Gentlemen, but understand that Amendment #1, Representative Farley, Amendment #1 has already been adopted to the Bill. So we don't need to adopt a second Amendment. Representative Farley"
"That's fine. I just want to vote 'aye' on this Amendment."
"Very good. Representative Saltsman."
"Change me from 'no' to 'aye'."
"Representative Saltsman changes his vote from 'no' to 'aye'. Please be advised that the vote is still open. If Members wish to change their vote, please vote it. Representative... Representative Hawkinson, are you seeking recognition? No. Have all... Representative McGann."
"I vote 'aye', Madam."
"You can do it on the board. The vote is still 139 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 open. So change it yourself. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 90 voting 'aye', 22 voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present' and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the... Excuse me. There is a fiscal note requested on this Bill. So the Bill has to remain on the Order of Second Reading, Representative. Second Reading for Senate Bill 320. On the Order of Elections there appears Senate Bill 237, Representative Stern. It's on page ten on your Calendar. Clerk, read the Bill. Page ten on your Calendar. Senate Bill 237."
"Senate Bill 237, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 616, Representative Steczo. Page 12 on your Calendar."
"Senate Bill 616, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Steczo, amends Senate Bill 616..."
"Representative Steczo."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 616 is an Amendment that Senator Welsh has worked out, I believe, with the Illinois State Chamber of Commerce regarding toxic art supplies in schools. It establishes requirements for the purchase of art supplies containing toxic substances. It provides that 140 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 schools and school districts are prohibited from ordering or purchasing art supplies containing toxic substances from grades kindergarten through six. And for grades seven through twelve, art supplies containing these substances can be purchased or ordered only if there is labeling requirements. It applies after 6/1/86. It provides for various definitions, warning labels and other types of information as well as studies by the Illinois Department of Public Health and a list to be distributed to school districts by the State Superintendent of Education. I would move for the adoption of Amendment #1."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 616. And on that question, the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative McCracken."
"An inquiry, Madam Speaker. Has the Amendment been printed and distributed?"
"Yes, it has."
"Okay. Alright. Representative, you made a good explanation. What... What mechanism or corrective mechanism, if any, is there for the toxic substances currently on the premises or as of the effective date of the Bill? I mean, what is it that we're going to do - merely notify people, or are they going to have to get it off the premises or...?"
"Representative McCracken, the Bill indicates that the various school districts will be notified by the Department of Public Health, by the State Superintendent of Education which substances have high degrees of toxicity and they will be requested to remove those from the premises. It does not mandate moving them from the premises. I think the idea is that if they currently have them, chances are they will not have had them for very long. It provides that from June 1st of '86 that labeling requirements will 141 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 be in effect for that '86/'87 school year and the requirements will be done by those people that do the testing for the various manufacturers so everything can be uniform."
"The labeling will be done by the manufacturers?"
"That's correct, in conjunction with the American Society for Testing of Materials which is... who develops a standard that art and craft materials. Manufacturers and artists have generally agreed to... to follow."
"So there's a list of the toxic materials in existence already?"
"There's a standard for manufacturers, and, based on that standard for manufacturers, a list will be developed. And there is an extensive provision in the Bill regarding public health and other hearings that they would have. And the purpose, really, is to provide warnings, too. So, if the substances are in a school, substance... warning labels on various degrees of toxicity will be either on the package or as an insert to the package so that people will know exactly, you know, how to deal with those particular substances."
"Okay. Now, you would expect, then, the manufacturer to pick up the cost of the labeling or just make that part of the cost of the product? Is that where the expense will be?"
"I would presume, Representative McCracken, since this legislation is already in effect in California, and there has been interest expressed in other states, that it will be uniform at some point. And because we have provided for an insert to be able to be used rather than labeling, that would suffice, in terms of the manufacturers having to have different packages made for Illinois and other states. So, inserts can be used rather than labeling." 142 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Alright. Now, if an insert were used, making it subject to Illinois only, how would that be accomplished under the Bill, and who would bear the cost?"
"Representative McCracken, I believe the manufacturer would bear the cost of inserting. I should... I think I did point out that California currently has this same type of activity, and I don't think it's causing much of a problem in California."
"Okay. But I'm just trying to get straight, to the extent there's a cost, that it will be borne by the manufacturer."
"Right. But we are trying to provide that with the insert it would be less costly than designing two different packages, one for Illinois and California and other states and one for those that do not have this type of requirement."
"Okay. Can you give me an example of what would be toxic? Do you have some idea of that at this time?"
"Representative McCracken, I'll refer to the Bill which defines an art or craft material which contains... it contains an ingredient which is toxic, whether an impurity of one percent or more by weight of the product is... is included therein. I think that that is the standard that the technical people that do the testing, the American Society for Testing of Materials, have. It's their standard D-4236, which they have provided, and I believe that that definition also meets with the approval of the Illinois State Chamber of Commerce and their people that have reviewed the Act with Senator Welsh."
"With Senator Welsh. Was this the same or similar to a Bill considered by the Senate?"
"I believe it is. I'm not sure if its' in exactly the same form that it was considered when it was in the Senate, 143 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 but..."
"Alright."
"... a similar subject was considered."
"And that didn't pass out of the Senate."
"No, it did not. It failed by a vote or two."
"Alright. Where is enforcement of the Act lodged, with the State Superintendent or...?"
"The Department of Public Health."
"The Department of Public Health. Alright. And is there an anticipated cost to the state of... because of the enforcement requirements? Do we anticipate extra money going to the Department?"
"I think, Representative McCracken, it would currently fall under the purview of the Department of Public Health's, you know, current duties. I don't think there would be much of a revenue... or a... very much of an additional cost."
"Okay. Thank you."
"The Lady from Marshall, Representative Koehler."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I... Would the Sponsor please yield for a question?"
"He will."
"I was interested in your response, and you've been very thorough in your responses to Representative McCracken on this Bill. Well, I should say on this Bill, because apparently it has been a Bill or at least thought about over in the Senate but did not make it out and that is one of the things that concerns me about this. This is a massive Amendment, a very important Amendment. And here we are without a Committee hearing in the House addressing such a all-encompassing piece of legislation. And many 144 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 things like this go through the Energy and Environment Committee and... rather than go to the responsibility of the Department of Public Health, which is ill-equipped to take care of such a massive mandate. Can you tell me why you have chosen the Department of Public Health rather than the Environmental Protection Agency which really has a list of many of these chemicals? We also have the Department of Labor that oversees the employee right to know legislation. Perhaps you can tell us why you have chosen the Department of Public Health, which really is not equipped to do this."
"Representative Koehler, I think, in terms of the Department of Public Health's abilities, we are addressing that this Session, but I will indicate to you that the Department of Public Health will simply draw the list of the substances which contain the toxicity. There is a standard currently. The standard D-4236 provided by the American Society for Testing in Material. They will provide... they provide the standard. The Department of Public Health comes up with the list. They distribute the list to the schools. And in terms of your remark regarding a large Amendment, I don't think... I've seen larger provided to us or given to us at this period in time. And keep in mind that this is only Second Reading and we will have ample time to review the legislation before it's called and will have ample debate on Third Reading as well."
"Well, thank you, Representative. I was not referring to the size of the Amendment. I was referring to the size of the mandate that we are giving not only to the Department of Public Health, but to our schools. On the one hand, our schools are saying to us that we do not want any more mandates. On the other hand, we are handing them a massive mandate with this particular requirement. I know 145 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 that our industries have had difficulty, even though they've worked very hard to comply with many of the right to know legislations that we now have and with many of the rules and regulations in the regulatory area, and here we are regulating upon our schools and the Department of Public Health new responsibilities. Do you have any idea of the cost of this?"
"I think the cost for the Department of Public Health, Representative Koehler, would probably be minimal, and we are not really mandating a great responsibility on the school districts. Quite frankly, in smaller children, kindergarten through six, toxic supplies... toxic art supplies can cause a great deal of health... health and physical problems over the long run. Simply all this is meant to do is to provide a warning label either on the package or inserted in the package from the manufacturer and a list to the schools to say if you have these supplies up to January 1... I'm sorry, June 1, 1986, please, we would ask you to dispose of those. After that, we will give you a list of things that will not be able to be purchased. And that's simply all the Bill does. It's not a really massive mandate."
"Well, thank you, Representative Steczo. And, Madam Speaker, to the Amendment. While, on the one hand, this may be a very good idea, on the other hand, it may not be a very good idea. We have not had an opportunity for the schools to speak out on this issue. And I think that it is important that this particular Amendment be defeated at this point so that we might have an opportunity to address this in the proper fashion. And as I said, I think that it would be a good idea to address this as a Bill perhaps later... perhaps next year at a time when we could address it with its full ramifications. Thank you." 146 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Ladies and Gentlemen, we have over twenty more Bills to consider yet tonight before we adjourn. If Members could keep their remarks as short as possible, it would be very beneficial. The Lady from DuPage, Representative Cowlishaw. Cowlishaw."
"Thank you, Mr... Madam Speaker. I move the previous question."
"That's unnecessary. Representative Steczo, to close."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. I think the comments made during the questioning points out the substance of the Bill... pointed out the substance and the rationale for it. The fact is that kindergarten through sixth grade students who are using the... art supplies with toxicity could, in fact, have grave physical and health problems due to those. Simply, we are providing that warnings be provided, that school districts be provided lists submitted through the manufacturers and through the testing firm that test materials through the manufacturers. And I think that it's not a massive mandate. Something that really could provide a protection for our kindergarten through sixth graders and seventh through twelfth graders, and I would appreciate the House's support in the adoption of Amendment #1."
"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 616 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion... All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 55 voting 'aye', 48 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present' and the Amendment is adopted. A fiscal note has been filed as amended, Representative Steczo, so the Bill remains on the 147 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Order of Second Reading. Again, Ladies and Gentlemen, we don't want the House to lose this game by default. We will move as quickly as we can, but we have over 22 Bills to move tonight so that we can be prepared for action tomorrow. The next Bill is Senate Bill 1180, Representative Sutker. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 1180, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions filed?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments?"
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 99, Representative Currie. Out of... Has the Amendment been distributed on Senate Bill 98? Senate Bill 98."
"Senate Bill 98, a Bill for an Act to amend the Medical Practice Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Ladies and Gentlemen, we have made an arrangement with the agreement of both sides of the aisle for a number of Bills to be read a second time and then held so that those Bills possibly could be heard again tomorrow and go for final passage. So, with that agreement, we will read the following Bills and then have them held on Second Reading. Senate Bill 98, Senate Bill 291, Senate Bill 416, Senate Bill 431, Senate Bill 557, Senate Bill 612, Senate Bill 625, Senate Bill 629, Senate Bill 734, Senate Bill 925, Senate Bill 976, Senate Bill 1030 and Senate Bill 1249. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill... Senate Bill 98, a Bill for an Act to add Sections to the Medical Practice Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 291, a Bill for an Act to amend 149 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Sections of an Act in relationship to regulation of rivers, lakes and streams of the State of Illinois. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 431, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Municipal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 557, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act to revise the law in relationship to counties. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 612, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Administrative Procedure Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 625, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Metropolitan Civic Center Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 734, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Municipal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 925, a Bill for an Act to encourage state employee suggestions and to add Sections to the State Comptroller's Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 976, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Act to create the Office of County Auditor in certain counties. Second Reading of the Bill. And Senate Bill 416, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to spouse maintenance and child support. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1030, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to the practice of dentistry. Second Reading of the Bill. And Senate Bill 1249, a Bill for an Act relating to counties. Second Reading of the Bill."
"Add to that list Senate Bill 875, Representative Ropp's Bill on page 13 on your Calendar."
"Senate Bill..."
"875."
"... 875, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act for Grade A Pasteurized Milk and Milk Products Act. Second Reading of the Bill."
"Okay. Those Bills will all then be read... 149 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 have been read a second time. They will be held on Second. We still have about eight Bills that have to be considered. The first Bill is on page seven on your Calendar. Senate Bill 224, Representative O'Connell. This Bill is on the Order of Third Reading. The Gentleman asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing no objections, the Gentleman has leave. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"Senate Bill 224. It's been read a second time previously. Amendment #2, O'Connell, amends Senate Bill 224 as amended."
"Are there any Motions filed or Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, O'Connell."
"Representative O'Connell."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #2 is a technical Amendment. There was some question in debate on the original discussion as to whether or not the waste transfer station referred to garbage. The word 'garbage' has been inserted in lieu of 'waste transfer station' to make it clearly applicable to garbage."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 224. And on that question, the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative McCracken."
"Does this also exempt the City of Chicago from the Bill?"
"Yes, that's true."
"Okay. Thank you."
"Question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 224 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any 150 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 497, Representative Richmond. Clerk, read the Bill. It's on page 11 on your Calendar."
"Senate Bill 497, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions filed?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, Richmond, amends Senate Bill 497 on page one and so forth."
"Representative Richmond."
"Actually, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, the description in the... on the Calendar is in error and it calls... refers to this Bill amending the School Code. Actually it amends the Grain Dealers' Licensing Act. The Amendment would allow grain dealers who are already licensed in Illinois to continue their business until the first renewal date after January 1, 1988, as long as they maintain a net worth of at least 20,000 dollars. I move adoption of the Amendment."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 497. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 497 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On page 37 on your Calendar 151 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 appears Senate Bill 829 which was removed from the Consent Calendar. Clerk, read the Bill. 829."
"Senate Bill 829, a Bill for an Act to amend the Medical Practice Act. It's been read a second time previously. Amendment #1, Barnes, amends Senate Bill 829 on page one and so forth."
"Representative Barnes, the Amendment has not been printed. The Bill, however, has been read a second time and will be held on Second until the Amendment can be printed. Senate Bill... On page 23 on your Calendar is Senate Bill 849, Representative Vinson. Clerk, read the Bill. 849, on page 23."
"Senate Bill 849, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Daniels - Hallock, amends Senate Bill..."
"Representative Hallock."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. This Bill incorporates the right to know Bill which we passed unanimously in the House, and I would ask for it support."
"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of ... or the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 849. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 849 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments? Representative Cullerton."
"Yes, Madam Speaker, I believe that with the adoption of Amendment #1, that the title is amended, and I would request that the Bill go back to Second Reading First 152 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 Legislative Day."
"Pursuant to your request, this Bill goes back to the Order of Second Reading Second Legislative Day... First... Second Reading First Legislative Day. Excuse me. Senate Bill 865, on page 32 on your Calendar. Senate Bill 865, page 32 on your Calendar. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 865, a Bill for an Act in relationship to the conveyance of public land. Has been read a second time previously. Amendment #1, Hastert, amends Senate Bill 865."
"Representative Hastert, your Amendment has not been printed and distributed. With leave we will keep this Bill on the Order of Second Reading. It has been read a second time. And it can be heard later. So the Bill remains on the Order of Second Reading having been read a second time. On page 24 on your Calendar is Senate Bill 1036, Representative Keane. Clerk, read the Bill. Senate Bill 1036."
"Senate Bill 1036, a Bill for an Act to amend the Chicago World's Fair 1992 Authority Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments. Page 24. Page 24 of your Calendar."
"Are there any Amendments filed?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Mautino, amends Senate Bill..."
"Representative Mautino."
"Madam Speaker, Amendment #2 (sic - #1) is a very important Amendment, one that puts some responsibility into the World's Fair. At the request of the Sponsor, with the full understanding that the same Amendment is being drafted for the follow up to Amendment #6, he has agreed to withhold 1036 until that Amendment is redrafted. With that understanding that it is read, it will be held, I will withdraw that Amendment at this time with the... reserve 153 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985 the right to provide it at a later."
"The Gentleman withdraws Amendment #1. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, Mautino."
"Representative Mautino, on Amendment #2. Withdraw Amendment #2. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, Bullock - Shaw, amends Senate Bill 1036..."
"Representative Bullock. Withdraw Amendment #3. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #4, Shaw, amends Senate Bill 1036..."
"Representative Shaw. Withdraw Amendment #4. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #5, Keane, amends Senate Bill 1036..."
"Representative Keane, the Amendment is not printed and distributed. The Bill has been read a second time. So, it will be held on Second Reading. Representative Keane, for what reason do you rise?"
"Yes, did the... my Amendment changes the title of the Bill. So, that's why I needed it read in the ... read today so that as soon as you ... It has not been printed and distributed?"
"No, it has not. We can ask that it be printed and distributed and get it here as quickly as possible. Representative Keane."
"Yeah, a parliamentary question. If I move the Bill to Third, brought it back to amend it... put a new title on it tomorrow, would that be First or Second Legislative Day? That would be First?"
"It could be moved back to First Legislative Day upon the request of any Member." 154 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Alright. Just have it read a second time."
"Okay. Okay. The next Bill... Representative Friedrich, for what reason do you rise? Representative Friedrich."
"I was just going to object to it being moved to Third."
"On page 37 appears Senate Bill 815 on page... There is a Motion to reconsider. The Bill was on the Consent Calendar. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"Senate Bill 815, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act creating the Energy and Natural Resources Act. Has been read a second time previously."
"Who's the Sponsor of the Bill?"
"Representative Churchill - Klemm - Deuchler."
"Representative Cullerton, were you the person who wished to present a Motion to reconsider?"
"Yes, Madam Speaker, thank you. I move to reconsider... Having voted on the prevailing side, the passage of House Bill 815... Senate Bill 815, I move to reconsider the vote by which that Bill passed."
"Representative Cullerton moves to reconsider the vote by which Senate Bill 815 passed. All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 94 voting 'aye', 4 voting 'no' and 5 voting 'present'. And this Motion carries. This Motion to reconsider carries, and the Bill will appear on the Order of Second Reading Short Debate Calendar. On page 13 on your Calendar is Senate Bill 859, Representative Frederick. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 859, a Bill for an Act to amend the Amusement Ride and Attraction Safety Insurance Act."
"Are there any Motions filed?" 155 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Virginia Frederick, amends Senate Bill 859."
"Representative Frederick."
"Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment #1 amends the Carnival Amusement Ride Safety Act and provides that any person contracting with the carnival operator must then, after the contract is signed, inform the Department of the name, the address, the date and the location where the amusement ride will be installed. This was requested by the Department of Labor."
"The Lady has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1, is it, Mr. Clerk? Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 859. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."
"It gives me an opportunity to thank everyone today. I was embarrassed beyond belief. But what Reading are we on on the wall?"
"We're on Senate Bills Second Reading, Senate Bill 859, Amendment #1."
"Would the Lady explain the Amendment again now?"
"Yes, proceed, Representative Frederick."
"Thank you."
"Yes. What it does, Representative Leverenz, it provides that anyone contracting with an amusement ride or carnival ride operator then will supply to the Department the name, the address, the date and location of where the ride will be installed."
"What is Director Bernardi's opinion of your Amendment here? Does he support it?"
"He requested this Amendment." 156 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"I'd like to let all my friends on the Republican side know that Al Lombardi - is that his name?"
"Bernardi."
"Vince Lombardi, your friend wants this Amendment. For those of you that can't appreciate that, check with someone on the Appropriations I Committee."
"There being no further discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 859 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Okay. Representative Frederick."
"I would like to ask leave of the House to return this Bill to Consent Calendar from which it was taken."
"The Lady asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of the Consent Calendar. Are there any objections? Hearing no objections, the Bill is moved to Third Reading and is put on the Order of the Consent Calendar. We will use the Attendance Roll Call for that Motion. On page 13 on your Calendar is Senate Bill 997, Representative Alexander. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 997, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"There are none."
"Third Reading. On page 24 on your Calendar is Senate Bill 1036, Representative Keane. Clerk, read the Bill. Yes. Page 24."
"Senate Bill 1036. It's been read a second time previously. Amendments #1 through 4 were withdrawn. Floor Amendment #5, Keane." 157 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Representative Keane."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #5 puts Senate Bill 1036 in with the proper title and the proper language so that it will become the Chicago World's Fair Bill. And I would ask for the passage of Amendment #5 to Senate Bill 1036."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #5 to Senate Bill 1036. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #5 to Senate Bill 1036 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #6, Mautino, amends Senate Bill 1036."
"Representative Cullerton. Representative Cullerton."
"Yes, Madam Speaker, I believe with the adoption of Amendment #5 that the title of the Bill has been amended."
"It has."
"So I would request that the Bill be returned to Second Reading First Legislative Day."
"Representative Cullerton has moved that the Bill be returned to the Order of Second Reading First Legislative Day, as is his right. Representative Mautino, your Amendment has not been printed and distributed so that the Bill... I understand the Amendment is being distributed now. Do you wish to go forward? Okay. Representative Mautino."
"Amendment #6, Mautino."
"Representative Mautino. Excuse me. Representative Cullerton." 158 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"Madam Speaker, the Bill is on First Legislative Day. Second Reading First Legislative Day."
"I see. You're correct. The Amendment cannot be heard now. So the Bill remains on the Order of Second Reading First Legislative Day. Representative Vinson, for what reason do you rise?"
"Madam Speaker, I just want to inquire as to the specific cul de sac Representative Cullerton has placed us in to make sure that I fully understand it. I think... Am I right in thinking that Amendment #5 was adopted to this Bill?"
"It was."
"And then the Gentleman exercised his rights under the rules to move that back to Second Reading First Legislative Day?"
"It was."
"And it is the Chair's ruling that that Motion can be made before other Amendments are considered?"
"We did not make that ruling. At the time the Motion was made, the... further Amendments were not printed and distributed and could not be considered. So we took that Motion..."
"The subsequent Amendments after #5?"
"Yes."
"Okay."
"Then we found that subsequent Amendments were going... were being distributed so we were going to go back to that and the Chair was... had to note that it had already been returned to the Order of Second Reading First Legislative Day."
"And that was Mr. Cullerton that asked that it be returned to Second Reading First Legislative Day?"
"It was. It was." 159 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 19, 1985
"And that was the World's Fair Bill?"
"It was."
"Thank you."
"Ladies and Gentlemen, we are ready to play ball. Representative Cullerton moves that the House stand adjourned until 9:00 a.m. tomorrow morning, Thursday, June 20th. All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay', except for a few minutes for Perfunctory Session for the Clerk to do some cleanup business. This House stands adjourned until tomorrow at 9:00 a.m."
"Committee Reports. Representative Bowman, Chairman from the Committee on Appropriations II, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken June 19, 1985, and reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' Senate Bills 174, 175, 387, 462 and 863; 'do pass as amended' Senate Bill 1, 476, 477, 478, 482 and 483. Being no further business, the House now stands adjourned till 9:00 a.m. tomorrow morning." 160 11/20/85 STATE OF ILLINOIS 15:27 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY PAGE 1 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX JUNE 19, 1985 SB-0003 SECOND READING PAGE 81 SB-0007 THIRD READING PAGE 111 SB-0009 SECOND READING PAGE 2 SB-0016 SECOND READING PAGE 81 SB-0017 SECOND READING PAGE 82 SB-0018 THIRD READING PAGE 6 SB-0024 SECOND READING PAGE 93 SB-0031 SECOND READING PAGE 2 SB-0038 THIRD READING PAGE 112 SB-0039 HELD ON SECOND PAGE 83 SB-0040 THIRD READING PAGE 113 SB-0042 SECOND READING PAGE 83 SB-0048 SECOND READING PAGE 83 SB-0053 SECOND READING PAGE 2 SB-0060 SECOND READING PAGE 90 SB-0060 SECOND READING PAGE 92 SB-0060 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 91 SB-0062 THIRD READING PAGE 114 SB-0074 SECOND READING PAGE 2 SB-0075 SECOND READING PAGE 91 SB-0075 HELD ON SECOND PAGE 91 SB-0077 SECOND READING PAGE 91 SB-0086 THIRD READING PAGE 115 SB-0086 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 116 SB-0089 SECOND READING PAGE 93 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