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Illinois House Floor Debate — April 15, 1986

84th General Assembly (1985-1986) · Legislative day 101 · Regular Session
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April 15, 1986
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Speaker McPike

"House will come to order. Members will be in their seats. The Chaplain for today will be the Reverend Forrest Hagood, Pastor of Kincaid Church of God. Reverend Hagood is a guest of Representative Karen Hasara. Will the guests in the balcony please rise and join us in the invocation?"

Reverend Hagood

"Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen. The Scripture says of Jesus, Peace I leave with you. My peace I give unto you. Not as the world giveth, give I unto you, but let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. We live in precarious and perilous times. Our world is in turmoil. I'd like for us to petition our Heavenly Father today for peace among men all over the world, of all ages. Let us go to the Lord in prayer. Eternal God, our Heavenly Father, we praise You today for the privilege of standing here before this Body, and we thank You, Lord, for life itself and for the wonderful freedoms that we enjoy with our life in America. Thank you, Lord, for our form of government where we may all freely speak our piece regardless of our partisan politics, and Father, we thank You that we can come before this group and express our concern today for government and for international situations and for conflicts that are arising even now. We pray for a cessation of terrorist acts, for strength for our President and our Congress, for the guidance of the Holy Spirit. We ask now, Father, that truly the peace of Christ Jesus, that Prince of Peace, would permeate our world, that we might live together in the brotherhood of faith in Almighty God, and amen."

Speaker McPike

"We will be led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Representative Ropp."

Ropp et al

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day April 15, 1986 States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Speaker McPike

"Roll Call for Attendance. 114 Members answering the Roll Call, a quorum is present. Representative Piel, excused absences."

Piel

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, would the record show Representative McAuliffe is excused today? Thank you."

Speaker McPike

"Representative Greiman, do you have any excused absences? None. Thank you. Committee Reports."

O'Brien

"Representative White, Chairman of the Committee on Human Services, reported the following Committee Bills for introduction: House Bill 3401, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relation to Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome. First Reading of the Bill."

Speaker McPike

"... Greiman in the Chair."

Speaker Greiman

"Resolutions."

O'Brien

"House Resolution 1137, Parke; 1138, Stange; 1140, Braun; 1142, Giglio; 1144, Piel; 1143, Madigan - Daniels; 1147, Johnson; 1148, Johnson; 1152, Johnson; 1153, Johnson; 1154, Stephens; 1155, Wolf; 1156, Johnson; 1157, McGann; 1158, McGann; 1160, Kulas; 1161, Ronan; 1162, McGann; 1163, McGann; 1165, Ryder; 1166, McNamara; 1167, McGann; 1170, Johnson; 1174, Matijevich; 1175, McGann. Also 1176."

Speaker Greiman

"For what purpose does the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Steczo, seek recognition?"

Steczo

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just to announce that this afternoon's meeting of the Cities and Villages Committee has been moved from Room 118 to Room C-1 in the Stratton Building. We will meet at 2:00."

Speaker Greiman

"Alright. C-1. And Mr. Tate, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

Tate

"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Due to the current 2 101st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 15, 1986 international situation that we have confronted with us today, I have filed with the Clerk, a Resolution that I'm sure will receive bipartisan support, supporting the President's air strike on Libya and Moammar Khadafy."

Speaker Greiman

"Excuse me, Mr. Tate. Apparently, that's in the process of being looked at, and we are now in the middle of the Order of Agreed Resolutions. And on that, the Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Giorgi."

Giorgi

"Mr. Speaker, I move for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions, except the one in question. If he wants to place it before the House on his own, he can. So, I move for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."

Speaker Greiman

"The Gentleman from Winnebago moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. Those in favor say 'aye", opposed "no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and... Pardon me? Yes, Mr. Vinson, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

Vinson

"Mr. Speaker, my light was on before Mr. Giorgi was even recognized."

Speaker Greiman

"What is it you wish, Mr. Vinson?"

Vinson

"Did I understand you to say that you would get back to Mr. Tate on his Resolution?"

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Giorgi has made a Motion, and we have a process for determining what Agreed Resolutions are, and he's made a Motion, and I have now put the Motion to those Agreed Resolutions."

Vinson

"But, did I understand... Did I understand you to say that you would get back to Mr. Tate's Resolution?"

Speaker Greiman

"If we get to that Order, we will."

Vinson

"Mr. Speaker, you may deny him the right to have his Motion considered?"

Speaker Greiman

"Mr... Mr. Vinson. Mr. Vinson, I'm in the middle of a Roll Call. You are out of order, Sir. All 3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day April 15, 1986 those in favor say 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Death Resolutions."

O'Brien

"Senate Joint Resolution 131, Kubik. House Resolution 1129, Deuchler; 1133, Shaw; 1135, Nash; 1136, Hoffman; 1141, Shaw; 1145, McPike; 1146, Johnson; 1149, Johnson; 1150, Johnson; 1151, Johnson; 1159, Leflore; 1168, McAuliffe; 1169, Daley; 1171, Shaw; 1172, Shaw; 1173, Shaw."

Speaker Greiman

"The Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Giorgi, moves for the adoption of the Death Resolutions. Those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Death Resolutions are adopted. Agreed Joint Resolutions."

O'Brien

"House Joint Resolution 170, Panayotovich. Senate Joint Resolution 121, Kubik; 123, Kubik. Senate Joint Resolution 127, Madigan - Daniels. Senate Joint Resolution 128, Panayotovich. Senate Joint Resolution 129, Kubik. Senate Joint Resolution 132, Ryder."

Speaker Greiman

"The Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Giorgi, moves for the adoption of the Senate Joint Resolutions. Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Senate Joint Resolutions are adopted. Mr. Tate, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

Tate

"Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I'm sure that my Resolution will receive bipartisan support, and I would only ask that I have filed a Motion for immediate consideration. And I think it's timely, since we... It would be appropriate to hear that Resolution today, since the air strike took place yesterday, and that there may be pending congressional action today with the Libyans reciprocating and retaliating this morning on the Sicilian 4 101st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 15, 1986 communications American base. I don't think anyone in this room would disagree that Moammar Khadafy has been acting inappropriately and is a madman, and I certainly wouldn't want to see the... the other side of the aisle be in the posture of not supporting such a Resolution."

Speaker Greiman

"Before... Excuse me. Before we go on and take this... escalate this, Mr. Tate, it's not been printed yet. It's not on the Members' desks. A Motion is inappropriate at this moment. Introductions and First Reading."

O'Brien

"House Bill 3398, Ronan, a Bill for an Act to amend the Motor Fuel Tax Law. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3399, McGann, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3400, McGann, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3401, Human Services Committee, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3402, Wojcik, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3403, Capparelli... House Bill 3403, Capparelli, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Abortion Law. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3404, Stange, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unemployment Insurance Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3405, Shaw, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. House Bill 3406, Shaw, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3407, Shaw, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3408, Mautino, a Bill for an Act relating to the sale of franchises. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3409, Ropp, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Milk Promotion Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 10lst Legislative Day 3410, Terzich, April 15, 1986 a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3411, W. Peterson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Park District Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3412, DeJaegher, a Bill for an Act to amend the Emergency Medical Services System Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3413, DeJaegher, a Bill for an Act in relation to the regulation of insurance rates. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3414, Saltsman, a Dill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3415, Keane, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning land titles. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3416, Cullerton, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning fees and salaries. First Reading of the 3ill. House Bill 3417, Cullerton, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3418, Cullerton. a Bill for an Act to amend the Private Detective, Private Alarm and Private Security Act of 1983. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3419, Saltsman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3420, Berrios, a Bill for an Act concerning the registration of all-terrain vehicles and off-highway motorcycles and to provide for regulations pertaining to the operation thereof. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3421, Ropp, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3422, Curran, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3423, Hallock - and Giorgi, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act in relation to energy efficient storage hot water heaters. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3425... House Bill 3424, rather, Slater, a 3ill for an Act to amend the Agricultural Fair Act. First Reading of the Bill." 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 15, 1986 101st Legislative Day

Speaker Greiman

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. McNamara, for what purpose do you seek recognition, Sir?"

McNamara

"Thank you. I'd like to recognize Bob Taylor from the Chicago Youth Center Board of Directors and two of his directors - student directors for the Illinois Collaboration on Youth. The youth representative we have with us today is Lisa White, a junior at ... School and the honors program of School District 218, and Gloria Thompson, a junior at Loyola University, and I'd like to give them a little recognition up here in the front."

Speaker Greiman

"... Resolutions."

O'Brien

"House Resolution 1134, Dunn. And House Resolution 1164, Hallock."

Speaker Greiman

"Committee on Assignment. Page three of the Calendar, on the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 347, Mr. Hawkinson. 347, Mr. Hawkinson. Do you wish to proceed? Mr. Clerk,"

O'Brien

"House Bill 347, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Pharmacy Practice Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

Speaker Greiman

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

O'Brien

"Floor Amendment 1, by Representative Shaw, amends House Bill 347 on page one... "

Speaker Greiman

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Shaw, on Amendment 1. Yes, Mr. Cullerton?"

Cullerton

"Has that Amendment been distributed?"

Speaker Greiman

"I'm advised by the Clerk it has been distributed, Mr. Cullerton."

Cullerton

"If we could ask the Sponsor to take it out of the record for a second. We do not have a copy in our file."

Speaker Greiman

"Sure. Yes, Mr. Hawkinson, that will be alright. Alright. It'll be out of the record, and we'll return to it. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading 7 101st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 15, 1986 on page three of the Calendar appears House Bill 500. Mr. Cullerton? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 500, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code of 1961. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee previously."

Speaker Greiman

"Are there any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"

O'Brien

"No Motions filed."

Speaker Greiman

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

O'Brien

"No Floor Amendments."

Speaker Greiman

"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading on page three of the Calendar appears House Bill 913. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 913, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Criminal Code of 1961. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

Speaker Greiman

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

O'Brien

"None."

Speaker Greiman

"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading on page three of the Calendar appears House Bill 1429. Mr. Levin? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 1429, a Bill for an Act in relation to residential cooperatives. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted previously."

Speaker Greiman

"Are there any Motions with Amendment #1?"

O'Brien

"No Motions filed."

Speaker Greiman

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

O'Brien

"No Floor Amendments."

Speaker Greiman

"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading on page three of the Calendar appears House Bill 1473. Mr. Nash? Mr. Nash, do you wish to proceed? Out of the record. Alright, Mr. Nash. Do you wish that Bill called? Mr. Clerk. 1473." 8 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day April 15, 1986

O'Brien

"House Bill 1473, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

Speaker Greiman

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

O'Brien

"No Floor Amendments."

Speaker Greiman

"There has been... I am advised that there is a request for a fiscal note filed on this Bill. So the Bill will remain on the Order of House Bills Second Reading... Resolutions."

O'Brien

"Senate Joint Resolution 133, Virginia Frederick. Senate Joint Resolution 134, Braun. House Joint Resolution 167, Madigan and Daniels. House Joint Resolution 168, Churchill. House Resolution 1176, Tate: 1177, Matijevich; 1178, Didrickson; and 1179, Didrickson."

Speaker Greiman

"The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich, on the Agreed Resolutions."

Matijevich

"Speaker, I move to adopt the Senate Joint Resolutions, the House Joint Resolutions and the House Resolutions."

Speaker Greiman

"The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich, moves that the House adopt Senate Joint Resolutions, House Joint Resolutions... and House Resolutions on the Agreed Resolution list. Those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Resolutions are adopted. General Resolutions."

O'Brien

"House Joint Resolution 171, offered by Representative Pangle."

Speaker Greiman

"Committee on Assignment. Introduction and First Reading of Bills."

O'Brien

"House Bill 3425, Ryder, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Nursing Home Care Reform Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3426, Ryder, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Nursing Home Care Reform Act. 9 101st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 15, 1986 First Reading of the Bill."

Speaker Greiman

"Page four of the Calendar, Consent Calendar Second Reading."

O'Brien

"Consent Calendar Second Reading. Second Day. House Bill 2590, a Bill for an Act to add Sections to an Act to provide for the manner of levying and imposing taxes for the provision of special services to areas within the boundaries of home rule units and non-home rule municipalities and counties. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments. House Bill 2725, a Bill for an Act to provide for the selection of a state fish. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

Speaker Greiman

"Third Reading. Page five of the Calendar on the Speaker's Table appears House Resolution 595. Out of the record. On the Speaker's Table appears House Resolution 940. Mr. Clerk."

O'Brien

"House Resolution 940, amends House Rule 37 to change the deadlines on Third Reading House Bill Appropriations Bills. The Rules Committee recommends 'be adopted'."

Speaker Greiman

"And on that, the Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich. Excuse me, Mr. White, Mr. Ronan, Mr. Ryder, Mr. Berrios. Thank you. The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich."

Matijevich

"Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Resolution #940 changes from the first Friday in June to the fourth Friday in May the deadline for floor consideration of House Appropriation Bills. This Resolution conforms to the rules already adopted by the Senate and it has been recommended by the Rules Committee, and I move for its adoption."

Speaker Greiman

"The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich, moves for the adoption of House Resolution 940. And on that, is 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day April 15, 1986 there any debate? The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken."

McCracken

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Greiman

"Indicates he'll yield for questions."

McCracken

"I think you probably went over it, Representative, but could you tell me how this changes our current rules or the rules from the last Session?"

Matijevich

"The current rules are that House Appropriation Bills can be considered in Third Reading on the first Friday in June. This changes that to the fourth Friday in May."

McCracken

"And what is the purpose of that change?"

Matijevich

"This conforms to the Senate rules whereby their consideration of Senate Appropriation Bills and keeps us in line with them. It allows us to be able to manage the Bills in good form so that we're both operating in the same direction at the same time."

McCracken

"Okay. Thank you. To the Bill, Mr. Speaker..."

Speaker Greiman

"Proceed, Sir."

McCracken

"...And especially to my colleagues on this side of the aisle. I'd ask you to watch this very carefully. This telescopes the appropriations process and reduces the time in which to consider this most important subject. Although it only appears to put it back a week or two, the point of the matter is, is that it is already too compressed a time in which to consider Bills of such magnitude. The appropriate response should be to go... to go in the opposite direction, to give us time until the end of the Session in which to consider appropriation Bills, and I respectfully request that we oppose this as an unwise change in the rules."

Speaker Greiman

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."

Leverenz

"Yes, I would..."

Speaker Greiman

"Excuse me. Excuse me, Mr. Leverenz. Let's 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day April 15, 1986 give Mr. Leverenz your attention, please. Proceed, Sir."

Leverenz

"I would simply rise to support this Resolution with... even if we moved it back another week, I'm sure the Appropriations I Committee and probably the Appropriations II Committee would have all the time in the world to properly address all the budgets we will see in Committee. Ask for your 'aye vote for Representative Matijevich."

Speaker Greiman

"The Gentleman from Kendall, Mr. Hastert."

Hastert

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I happen to serve on Approp II, have so for a number of years. It seems to me when you're dealing with a 20 billion dollar budget, that those issues and those fiscal issues that face the state take a great deal of time. Now, I recall sitting in Committees hours and hours and hours in that week that we have - it's a special week that we have set aside to consider appropriation issues, we've been in Committee nine and 10 hours a day. Now, I'm not sure that if you accordion this or squeeze this thing together that those types of Bills and those... the gravity of the issues facing the State of Illinois are going to be heard. One thing that we have in this Illinois General Assembly, one tag that we have, one string that we have to go through the appropriation process. In that appropriation process, they have to be accountable, they have to be exact, they have to show substantiveness, they have to show planning, and if you start to squeeze that together, and if you start to gloss over the appropriation process, which in many cases is the last bastion that we have to make sure that our dollars are being spent fairly and honestly and effectively, then we... we're losing a great deal of what we're elected to do here. So, I respectfully ask the Members of this Committee... or this 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day April 15, 1986 House to reject this Resolution and would ask a parliamentary inquiry whether this takes a Roll Call of 70 votes or not."

Speaker Greiman

"60 votes. The... Mr. Mays, did you wish to address the Body on this issue?"

Mays

"Yes, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Just to clarify a Roll Call was asked for and it is required on this type of rule change. Right?"

Speaker Greiman

"That's correct."

Mays

"Okay. Well, in support of Representative Hastert in opposition to this proposal, I, too, feel that we should not be diminishing the amount of time and the amount of scrutiny that the Appropriations Committee can provide to the 20 plus billion dollar budget the State of Illinois has. I don't think it's in anyone's interest to do such a thing, and I believe that the more we... the more opportunity we have in our Committee systems to view both substantive and appropriation measures the better we are in general. So, I rise in opposition to this proposal."

Speaker Greiman

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman."

Bowman

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'm a little surprised at some of the arguments that I've been hearing against this... this Resolution. You would think that we were throwing out the entire rule book and starting from scratch. This is really a very modest change, and it is done in order to better synchronize the operations of the House with those in the Senate. I think that we can certainly give adequate consideration to legislation as it comes through the process. If it's necessary, we can always schedule another meeting during the week. Typically, we've only had one meeting a week. but our Appropriation Members are hardworking and devoted, and if they need more time for 13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day April 15, 1986 questions, I'd be happy to accommodate them. But really, all we're doing here is just changing it by a modest amount, and we do need to better coordinate our operations with those in the Senate. So, I rise in support of this Resolution."

Speaker Greiman

"The Gentleman from McHenry, Mr. Klemm."

Klemm

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You know, as a Member of one of the Appropriations Committee, I find it extremely exciting and interesting, but when I also have Committee hearings that I must attend to for my other Bills that are not Appropriation Bills, and when I sit in Executive Committee and hearing my fellow colleagues' Bills coming to us for debate, really I don't have the time sometimes to be attending two Committee meetings at the same time - both Appropriations and our other Committees. So, it seems to me that for us who work in the trenches, the Representatives who work the Committees day to day, that we're better off and better served to at least have this period of separation of times between the normal course of our legislation and the Appropriations Bill. So, for that reason, I certainly stand in opposition to the passage so that we, as Members, can certainly spend the appropriate time listening to both the substantive Bills that we must act upon and then have time to deliberate the Appropriation Bills. So, I oppose this Resolution."

Speaker Greiman

"The Gentleman from McLean, Mr. Ropp."

Ropp

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to ask the Sponsor a question, please. Hould he yield?"

Speaker Greiman

"The Gentleman will yield for a question."

Ropp

"Representative it has been stated that we're trying conform with the Senate. Why do we have to conform with the Senate? Why wouldn't it be better for them to conform with our rules?" to 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day April 15, 1986

Matijevich

"They've already adopted their rules, SO it's a matter of... if we're going to synchronize. as somebody used the term properly, synchronize the business of both Houses, then you've got... you've got to have the same rule as to consideration of Third Reading of Senate Bills over there and House Appropriation Bills over here. You know, I don't think you nor I want to get into a match with the Senate. That's not necessary. What we want to do is consider the business of the House in an orderly manner, and that's what this does. You know, if you want to stay here till July 30th, go ahead. Vote against this Resolution, but this is to try to make sure that business is done orderly, that we adjourn in orderly fashion. That's what we're here for. If you want to have a backlog, then you vote against this Resolution. I don't want that."

Ropp

"I don't necessarily want to have a backlog, but I don't think we ought to yield to the Senate. I think that's why we have two separate Bodies, so that we, independently, can operate in our own way of doing business. As a Member of the Appropriations Committee II, let me say that, in addition to supporting or not supporting measures of revenue and tax dollars for this program or another, oftentimes we, as Legislators, seem to get the attention of the administrator of a particular agency, if we had a problem with it, much better during appropriation time. And I would certainly not like to see this process speeded up, because all too often, we have too many constituents that, for one reason or another, need to have some questions answered from the director or administrators of certain state agencies, and I think that by speeding this process up, that we really take away that opportunity or at least hustle it up, so that we cannot get enough answers to questions that our constituents need. And I can go through 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day April 15, 1986 almost every agency and point out areas that we need specific questions to - maybe not those that address the money portion, but in the operation of that particular agency. So, I certainly think you ought to give this strong consideration and vote against this particular proposal. And Mr. Speaker, should this get a... a requisite number of votes, I would ask for a verification."

Speaker Greiman

"There being no further discussion, the Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich, to close."

Matijevich

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I think that House Resolution 940 makes sense. It allows us to conduct the operations of the House in a proper fashion. In fact, it does allow us even to have more floor time with regards to Bills, and I think we're all for that. We... We went too far last Session and wasted a lot of time after June 30th. I've served as Chairman of the Appropriations Committee for two terms, and believe me, we met independently when everybody else was through with their work. We met at all kinds of hours. You can put in overtime during the day if you want to. There's a lot of time in the day. There's enough time for both Houses to get their work. I'm amazed that the Republicans want to verify this vote. What do you want? Are you telling me that you want to logjam this House so that we don't adjourn at the proper time? That's really what you're telling me. That's what your vote is all about. You're not kidding anybody. I would urge all the Members on this side of the aisle to vote 'aye' on this Resolution so that we do conduct our business orderly and we adjourn on time. I move to adopt the Resolution."

Speaker Greiman

"For what purpose does the Gentleman from Marion, Mr. Friedrich, seek recognition?"

Friedrich

"I'd like to ask the Sponsor a question, if I might." 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day April 15, 1986

Speaker Greiman

"Well, Mr. Friedrich, we have closed the debate. We closed it before your light... well before your light went on. I will recognize you to explain your vote, Sir. The question is, 'Shall the House adopt House Resolution 940?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. Ms. Currie, your seatmate's vote? Now, Mr. Friedrich, to explain your vote."

Friedrich

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, the suggestion or the implication has been made by the Sponsors of this Bill - and the proponents of it - that in the absence of our ... changing this rule, that the Appropriations Committee cannot go ahead and act and get the Bills out. They have the Majority. They know when the Bills can be called. They have the votes to get any Bill out they want. So, if the Bills aren't called and if the Appropriations Committee does not act, it's the fault of those who are in charge - the Chairman and the Majority Members on that Committee. We don't have to change the rules to get those Bills out."

Speaker Greiman

"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 65 voting 'aye', 49 voting 'no', none voting 'present'. And the Gentleman from McLean, Mr. Ropp, requests a verification of the Affirmative Roll Call and the Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich, asks for a Poll of the Absentees."

O'Brien

"Poll of the Absentees. Bullock. Capparelli. And Koehler. And McAuliffe is excused."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Clerk, proceed with the verification of the Affirmative Roll Call."

O'Brien

"Alexander."

Speaker Greiman

"Excuse me, Mr. Clerk. Mr. Homer, for what 17 101st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 15, 1986 purpose do you seek recognition?"

Homer

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Leave to be verified."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Ropp, does the Gentleman have leave? Mr. Homer, you have leave to be verified. Proceed."

O'Brien

"Berrios."

Speaker Greiman

"Excuse me. Mr. Nash asks leave for verification. Alright, Mr. Nash. Proceed, Mr. Clerk."

O'Brien

"Bowman. Braun. Breslin. Brookins. Brunsvold. Christensen. Cullerton. Curran. Currie. Daley. DeJaegher. DeLeo. Dunn. Farley. Flinn. Flowers. Giglio. Giorgi. Greiman. Hannig. Hartke. Hicks. Homer. Huff. Keane. Krska. Kulas. Laurino. LeFlore. Leverenz. Levin. Martinez. Martinez. Matijevich. Mautino. McGann. McNamara. McPike. Mulcahey. Nash. O'Connell. Panayotovich. Pangle. Phelps. Preston. Rea. Rice. Richmond. Ronan. Saltsman. Satterthwaite. Shaw. Steczo. Stern. Sutker. Terzich. Turner. Van Duyne. Washington. White. Wolf. Anthony Young. Wyvetter Younge. And Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Ropp, do you have questions of the Affirmative Roll Call?"

Ropp

"Yes. Representative Hicks."

Speaker Greiman

"Representative Hicks. Mr. Hicks. Mr. Hicks in the chamber? How is Mr. Hicks recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Greiman

"Remove Mr. Hicks from the Roll Call."

Ropp

"Representative Laurino."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Laurino is in his chair."

Ropp

"Representative McGann."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. McGann is at the rear of the chamber."

Ropp

"Representative Panayotovich."

Speaker Greiman

"Representative Panayotovich. Mr. Panayotovich. Mr. Panayotovich in the chamber? How is Mr. Panayotovich 18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day recorded?"

O'Brien

Speaker Greiman

April 15, 1986 "The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'." "Remove Mr. Panayotovich from the Roll Call."

Ropp

"Representative DeJaegher."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. DeJaegher is here at the press box."

Ropp

"Representative Terzich."

Speaker Greiman

"Μг. Terzich. Hr. Terzich. Mr. Terzich. Μг. Terzich in the chamber? How is Mr. Terzich recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye."

Speaker Greiman

"Remove Mr. Terzich from the Roll Call."

Ropp

"Representative Ronan."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Ronan is at the rear of the chamber."

Ropp

"Representative Huff."

Speaker Greiman

"Hr. Hicks has returned. the Roll Call. Μг. Huff. chamber?

O'Brien

Restore Mr. Hicks to Mr. Huff. Mr. Huff in the How is Mr. Huff recorded?" "The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Ropp

"Remove Mr. Huff from the Roll Call. Hicks been restored?" Mr. Clerk, has ΜΓ.

O'Brien

"Mr. Hicks is recorded as voting 'aye."

Speaker Greiman

"Further questions, Mr. Ropp?"

Ropp

"Representative Preston."

Speaker Greiman

"Ar. Preston is in his chair."

Ropp

"Representative Breslin."

Speaker Greiman

"Ms. Breslin. Ms. Bresiin is right at the door."

Ropp

"Representative Giorgi."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Giorgi. Mr. Giorgi is right at the front. You should get to know these Members, Mr. Ropp. He's right there next to you."

Ropp

"Is that Representative Giorgi? Oh."

Speaker Greiman

"It's the Rockford cabal."

Ropp

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker." 19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day

Speaker Greiman

Clerk April 15, 1986 "On this question, there are 62 voting 'aye', 49 voting "no", none voting 'present', and the House does adopt House Resolution 940. On the Order of House... of Speaker's Table appears House Resolution 1064. Mr. Clerk?"

O'Brien

"House Resolution 1064, amends House Rule 34 of the rules of the House of Representatives. Rules Committee recommends 'be adopted'."

Speaker Greiman

"And on that, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton."

Cullerton

"Thank you, ΜΓ. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This House Resolution would require the Legislative Reference Bureau to affix to the original of all Bills which it prepares, a stamp indicating whether or not a Bill creates or expands a state mandates. They currently right now place a stamp indicating a fiscal, judicial, a state debt impact, a pension impact or correctional budget and impact notes or land conveyance appraisals. This would simply add state mandates to the list for which they shall affix a stamp to all original Bills. Be happy to answer any questions. I would ask for the adoption of House Resolution 1064."

Speaker Greiman

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton, moves for the adoption of House Resolution 1064. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the House adopt House Resolution 1064?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 105 voting 'aye, 5 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. And the House does adopt House Resolution 1064. Mr. Countryman, for what purpose do you seek recognition?

Countryman

"Mr. Speaker, I'd ask leave of the Body to have House 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day April 15, 1986 Bill 2733... the posting requirements waived for that Bill. That Bill was posted last week, and I discussed it with the Chairman, Representative White, continuing it until this weekend. It was inadvertently left off the posting requirement. and I've cleared it with the Minority Spokesman and the Chairman of the Committee."

Speaker Greiman

"Does the Gentleman have leave to waive the posting requirements for House Bill 2733, the Committee on Human Services? Is there leave? Leave and the use of the Attendance Roll Call. Yes, Mr. Matijevich? For what purpose do you seek recognition?"

Matijevich

"Only to remind the Rules Committee that we are meeting immediately after adjournment in Room 118 rather than 114. Room 118 immediately after... "

Speaker Greiman

"But we are not yet... We are not yet ready to adjourn, though. I wanted to make that clear."

Matijevich

"No, I thought during the lull, I'd let them know."

Speaker Greiman

"Yes. Thank you. On page six of the Calendar on the Speaker's Table, Consideration Postponed appears House Resolution 909. Mr. Clerk, read the Resolution."

O'Brien

"House Resolution 909, relates to Build Illinois Task Force Subcommittee. Executive Committee recommends 'be adopted'."

Speaker Greiman

"And on that, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton."

Cullerton

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This House Resolution calls for a Special Subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committee to be established to hold monthly hearings on the progress of the Build Illinois Program spending, and also authorizes the task force to consist of four Members appointed by the Speaker and three appointed by the Minority Leader. Be happy to answer any questions and appreciate your support 21 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day of House Resolution 909." April 15, 1986

Speaker Greiman

"The Gentleman from Cook has moved for the adoption of House Resolution 909. And on that, is there any debate? The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken."

McCracken

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in opposition to this Resolution and, you know, last year when we passed the Build Illinois Act, nobody went into it in the blind. It was agreed to by both sides of the aisle that there would be appropriations and authorizations far in excess of that actually available, and it was agreed as a political compromise to ease the deadlock that the Lieutenant Governor would be responsible for picking those programs which are part of the first year's process in this five year program. Now, this goes back on that agreement made last year. We all went into it knowing that the Lieutenant Governor was a Republican, we all went into it knowing that there were some risks involved in that. But that was the only way the compromise was reached. And now, the Gentleman would have us go back on that decision made jointly by both sides of the aisle, and create a Subcommittee which has a Democratic Majority and monitor and undoubtedly, disapprove of the appropriation process agreed to last year. It's nothing more than that, and I ask that everybody oppose this."

Speaker Greiman

"The Gentleman from McLean, Mr. Ropp."

Ropp

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield, please?"

Speaker Greiman

"He'll yield for questions. Proceed, Sir."

Ropp

"Representative, in the wisdom of you and whoever else drafted this particular Bill, why was it not considered to allow one of the existing Committees, like State Government Administrative and Review Committee to do this kind of investigatory work?"

Cullerton

"Representative Ropp, that's exactly what the 22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day April 15, 1986 Resolution does. It calls for a Subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committees to be established, so...

Ropp

"No... "

Cullerton

"It is using two of the current Committees that we now have, combining those two Committees and having a Subcommittee be appointed to work under their auspices."

Ropp

"No, I mean... "

Cullerton

"So, Just using an existing Committee, the only difference is that we are doing the form of a Resolution so that all Members of the House can vote on it, and we're specifically saying that the... the Speaker and Minority Leader can appoint the Members rather than the Chairman of the Committees as would normally be done for Subcommittees."

Ropp

"Well, I mean, why wasn't this subject just assigned to the State Government Administrative Reviews, let's say, by the Chairman of the Committee on Assignment?"

Cullerton

"Well, apparently, you being... Are you the Minority Spokesman on this Committee that you've mentioned twice now? And are you a little put out that you might not have a chance to be on this Subcommittee?"

Ropp

"Well, absolutely."

Cullerton

"Well, I think if you talk to your Leader, perhaps he might appoint you to the Subcommittee, but that's certainly not a reason to vote against it, because you won't be on it."

Ropp

"No, I guess the reason for this whole concern is that - and I think you even voted for it - when we got rid of so many of these Commissions, Subcommittees, et cetera."

Cullerton

"This is not a Commission. It's a Committee. It's a Subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committee."

Ropp

"No. it's brand new. It's another entity. Even though it's a combination of two, it's still another entity of 23 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day the... " April 15, 1986

Cullerton

"Any Subcommittee is another entity. It doesn't cost any extra money."

Ropp

"Well, the question though is, why don't we do it with something that's already existing rather than to set up a new one?"

Cullerton

"Well, I imagine it was just done out of deference to the interest of the Minority so that they could appoint... the Leaders could appoint the Members of the Committee. I... I don't understand why you could be upset about the fact that we're creating a Subcommittee through Resolution as opposed to having the Committee vote to create a Subcommittee. What difference does it make?"

Ropp

"No. The primary concern when we got rid of all of the other Commissions that we had was that we would allow the existing Committees to function as they were originally set up for, to deal with these kinds of matters. Now here, we're superceding that original intent, when we got rid of all the Commissions and all the special study groups. That's my concern."

Cullerton

"Well, Representative Ropp, let me respond. I think that the old ploy of using the buzz word 'Commissions' every time you can to try to defeat something is not... is a little passe. I think you know and I know that this is not a Commission. It's not being set up with any appropriation. The reason why we have to do it in this manner, I would suggest, is that since Build Illinois, the subject matter of Build Illinois deals with both Appropriations Committees, that would be inappropriate to have a Subcommittee of just one. It would be inappropriate to have two Subcommittees. And so, this Resolution simply says that we combine the two Committees, they form a Subcommittee to monthly meet and monitor the Build Illinois 24 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day spending program. That's all it does." April 15, 1986

Ropp

"In other words, you're introducing a do-nothing kind of a thing?"

Cullerton

"Well, it certainly isn't a do-nothing. We're just using a different procedural matter, as opposed to having a Committee Chairman appoint a Subcommittee. The reason why we're having a different procedure is because the nature of the problem is different. It deals with an appropriation process that covers both Appropriations Committees together. You suggest that we... that we have a Subcommittee made up of some Committee that you happen to be the Minority Spokesman on. Well, maybe that Committee is not the most appropriate Committee to deal with the suject matter of appropriations. The Appropriations Committees are, and that's why we're doing it in this fashion."

Ropp

"Okay. Thank you."

Speaker Greiman

"The Gentleman from Marion, Mr. Friedrich."

Friedrich

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Greiman

"Indicates he'll yield for questions."

Friedrich

"Houldn't these projects that we're talking about... expenditures that we're talking about, most of them be done after January, 1987... or after January 1, 1987?"

Cullerton

"I don't know the answer to that."

Friedrich

"Well, I suggest that they will be, and between now and then, we're going to have an election. Now, in the past, the Governor's had a great deal to do with letting money be free for various projects, and I suspect that after January, no matter what you do here, the Governor will still have a great deal of discretion. We've got an election coming up, and I suggest that if Mr. Stevenson gets elected, as some of you suggest, then he'll have a lot of discretion. I wouldn't want you to take that away from 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day April 15, 1986 him."

Speaker Greiman

"Further discussion? There being none, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton, to close."

Cullerton

"Yes, I just thought I would clarify or at least state my opinion with regard to one of the previous comments made by one of the other Representatives. I don't recall any type of a legislative agreement that the Governor would appoint a Build Illinois team headed by Lieutenant Governor Ryan to review these projects and make recommendations. That was not part of any negotiations or agreement at the time that we voted on the Build Illinois project. That was done after the Bill was passed by the Governor, and he appointed his Siamese twin, George Ryan, to head up a Committee if... So, I don't think that... First of all, I don't think we're even contradicting the efforts of Lieutenant Governor Ryan, but certainly we're not abrogating it, and we're not going back on any deal. Secondly, it just makes sense that we not set up a new Commission, but rather have a Subcommittee of the two Appropriations Committees that we have in the House right now to hold monthly hearings just to monitor the progress of the Build Illinois Program. What this Resolution says is that we should have input from the public as to where we should spend our state dollars. What is wrong with having the public have a say in where we should spend the money? What is wrong with having an oversight on behalf of the General Assembly on a monthly basis as to the progress of where we're spending our Build Illinois money. I think it shouldn't even be a noncontroversial measure and ask for your support."

Speaker Greiman

"The question is, 'Shall the House adopt House Resolution 909?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open, and this 26 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day April 15, 1986 is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Yes, do you wish to explain your vote, Mr. Vinson? Proceed, Sir."

Vinson

"Mr. Speaker, in the event that this should appear to have enough votes to pass, I'd request a verification of the Affirmative Roll Call."

Speaker Greiman

"Alright. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 62 voting 'aye', 49 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', and the Gentleman from DeWitt, Mr. Vinson, has sought... has asked for a verification of the Affirmative Roll Call, and the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton, asks for a Poll of the Absentees."

O'Brien

"Poll of the Absentees. Bullock. Laurino. Panayotovich. Capparelli. Koehler. And McAuliffe."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Clerk... Yes, Mr. Van Duyne?"

Van Duyne

"Thank you, Mr... Thank you. Mr. Speaker. I'd like to have leave to be verified, thank you."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Van Duyne asks leave to be verified. Mr. Vinson. Alright, Mr. Christensen. Mr. Christensen makes the same request. Mr. Hannig. Yes, Mr. Vinson."

Vinson

"I heard Mr. Van Duyne. Who else?"

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Christensen and Mr. Hannig make the same request."

Vinson

"Thank you."

Speaker Greiman

"Alright. Mr. Clerk, proceed with the verification of the Affirmative Roll Call."

O'Brien

"Alexander. Berrios. Bowman. Braun. Breslin. Brookins. Brunsvold. Christensen. Cullerton. Curran. Currie. Daley. De Jaegher. DeLeo. Dunn. Farley. Flinn. Flowers. Giglio. Giorgi. Greiman. Hannig. Hartke. Hicks. Homer. Huff. Keane. Krska. Kulas. LeFlore. Levin. Martinez. Matijevich. Mautino. McGann. 27 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day April 15, 1986 McNamara. McPike. Mulcahey. Nash. O'Connell. Pangle. Phelps. Preston. Rea. Rice. Richmond. Ronan. Saltsman. Satterthwaite. Shaw. Steczo. Stern. Sutker. Terzich. Turner. Van Duyne. Washington. White. Wolf. Anthony Young. Hyvetter Younge. And Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Greiman

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Laurino. Vote Mr. Laurino 'aye'. Yes, Mr. Vinson, do you have questions of the Affirmative Roll?"

Vinson

"Yes I do. Mr. Speaker. Representative Alexander."

Speaker Greiman

"Representative Alexander. Representative Alexander. She will be... She'll return in a moment."

Vinson

"Let's remove her, though, now."

Speaker Greiman

"Alright, fine. We'll remove Ms. Alexander. How is the Lady... How is the Lady recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Lady is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Greiman

"Remove Ms. Alexander from the Roll Call."

Vinson

"Representative Brookins."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Brookins. Mr. Brookins is on your side of Vinson: the aisle." "Then he ought to vote like it. Representative Christensen."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Christensen is verified."

Vinson

"Yes, you're right. Representative DeLeo."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. DeLeo. Mr. DeLeo. Is Mr. DeLeo in the chamber? Mr. DeLeo. How is Mr. DeLeo recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Greiman

"Alright. Remove Mr. DeLeo from the Roll Call."

Vinson

"Mr. Hartke."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Hartke is in his chair."

Vinson

"Mr. Homer."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Homer. Mr. Homer. Restore Ms. Alexander to the Roll Call. Mr. Homer. Is Mr. Homer in the chamber? Well, how is Mr. Homer recorded?" 28 101st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 15, 1986

O'Brien

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Greiman

"Alright. Remove Mr. Homer from the Roll Call."

Vinson

"Mr. Huff."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Huff. Mr. Huff. Is Mr. Huff in the chamber? Huff. How is Mr. Huff recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Greiman

"Remove Mr. Huff from the Roll Call."

Vinson

"Mr. Keane."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Keane is in the rear of the chamber."

Vinson

"Mr. Mautino."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Mautino is in his chair. Alright, Mr. Leverenz' chair."

Vinson

"Mr. Nash."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Nash is at the rear of the chamber."

Vinson

"Mr. O'Connell."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. O'Connell is in his chair."

Vinson

"Mr. Rea."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Rea is in his chair."

Vinson

"Mr. Rice."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Rice is in the center aisle. Surprise. Mr. Rice."

Vinson

"Mr. White."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. White is in his chair."

Vinson

"Mr. Matijevich."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Matijevich is in his chair."

Vinson

"Mr. Giorgi."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Giorgi is in his chair. You should really get to know some of our Members. Mr. Homer will be back soon if you... if you keep asking questions."

Vinson

"Mr. Wolf."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Wolf is back in Mr. Flinn's chair."

Vinson

"Representative Breslin."

Speaker Greiman

"Ms. Breslin. Ms. Breslin. Is Ms. Breslin in 29 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day April 15, 1986 the chamber? Ms. Breslin is in the chamber."

Vinson

"Mr. Panayotovich. I'm sorry, he didn't vote."

Speaker Greiman

"Panayotovich has not voted."

Vinson

"Mr. Krska."

Speaker Greiman

"Mr. Krska. Mr. Krska."

Vinson

"Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Greiman

"Yes, Mr. Vinson? What did you want?"

Vinson

"He's not there. Knock him off. Let's be straight about this... "

Speaker Greiman

"Oh, Mr. Vinson, I think I can handle it without your help."

Vinson

"I'm not sure."

Speaker Greiman

"We're looking."

Vinson

"You're supposed to search the chamber, not the City of Springfield."

Speaker Greiman

"Yes, Mr. Krska. Oh, Mr. Hicks has returned, I see."

Vinson

"I did not verify Nr. Hicks."

Speaker Greiman

Speaker Greiman "Oh, I'm sorry. That was the last time. Mr. Krska. Mr. Krska. Is Mr. Krska in the chamber? Yes, Ms. Alexander? For what purpose do you seek recognition?"

Alexander

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I heard my name is being taken off. How am I recorded?"

Speaker Greiman

"I'm not sure. Mr. Clerk, how is Ms. Alexander recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Lady is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Alexander

"Thank you."

Speaker Greiman

"Is that how you wanted it to remain? Alright. Mr. Krska. Oh... Yes, Mr. Krska is in his seat. Mr. Vinson, further questions of the Affirmative Roll Call?"

Vinson

"Mr. Hicks."

Speaker Greiman

"No, I think we have... Mr. Hicks was already verified." 30 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day

Vinson

"No, I never verified Mr. Hicks."

Speaker Greiman

"Well, Mr. Hicks is in the back."

Vinson

"Where?"

Speaker Greiman

"On... Half clad at the back."

Vinson

"No further questions." April 15, 1986

Speaker Greiman

"On this question, there are 60 voting 'aye', 49 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', and the House does adopt House Resolution 909. The Gentleman from Madison. Mr. McPike, moves that the House stand adjourned until the hour of 12:00 tomorrow, allowing the Clerk appropriate time... perfunctory time for reading of... Introduction and First Readings. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it, and the House does stand adjourned until the hour of 12:00 tomorrow."

O'Brien

"Introduction and First Reading of Bills. House Bill 3428, Churchill, a Bill for an Act relating to cemeteries amending Acts herein named. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3427, Berrios and McAuliffe, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3428, Churchill, a Bill for an Act relating to cemeteries. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3429, Levin, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3430, Levin, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3431, Flinn, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act to revise the law in relation to county treasurers. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3432, Kubik and Cullerton, a Bill for an Act to add an Article to the Criminal Code of 1961. First Reading of the... First Reading of the Bill. ... Introduction. House Bill 3433, Breslin, a Bill for an Act to create the Universal 31 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 101st Legislative Day Telephone Service Protection Law of 1986. the Bill. No further business, the adjourned." April 15, 1986 First Reading of House now stands 32 04/23/86 12:37 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX APRIL 15, 1986 PAGE I HB-0347 SECOND READING PAGE 7 HB-0347 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 7 HB-0500 SECOND READING PAGE 8 HB-0913 SECOND READING PAGE 8 HB-1429 SECOND READING PAGE 8 HB-1473 SECOND READING PAGE 9 HB-2590 SECOND READING PAGE 10 HB-2725 SECOND READING PAGE 10 HB-3398 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-3399 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-3400 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-3401 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-3402 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-3403 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-3404 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-3405 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-3406 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-3407 FIRST READING PAGE 5 H8-3408 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-3409 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-3410 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-3411 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-3412 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-3413 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-3414 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-3415 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-3416 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-3417 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-3418 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-3419 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-3420 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-3421 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-3422 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-3423 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-3424 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-3425 FIRST READING PAGE 9 HB-3426 FIRST READING PAGE 9 HB-3427 FIRST READING PAGE 31 HB-3428 FIRST READING PAGE 31 HB-3429 FIRST READING PAGE 31 HB-3430 FIRST READING PAGE 31 HB-3431 FIRST READING PAGE 31 HB-3432 FIRST READING PAGE 31 HB-3433 FIRST READING PAGE 31 HR-0909 ADOPTED PAGE 21 HR-0940 ADOPTED PAGE 10 HR-1064 ADOPTED PAGE 20 HR-1134 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 7 HR-1164 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 7 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER REPRESENTATIVE MCPIKE PRAYER REVEREND FORREST HAGOOD PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE COMMITTEE REPORTS REPRESENTATIVE GREIMAN IN CHAIR AGREED RESOLUTIONS AGREED JOINT RESOLUTIONS DEATH RESOLUTIONS AGREED RESOLUTIONS GENERAL RESOLUTION ADJOURNMENT PAGE 1 PAGE 1 PAGE 1 PAGE 2 PAGE 2 PAGE 2 PAGE 2 PAGE 4 PAGE 4 PAGE 9 PAGE 9 PAGE 31 04/23/86 12:37 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX APRIL 15, 1986 SUBJECT MATTER PERFUNCTORY SESSION PERFUNCTORY SESSION - ADJOURNMENT PAGE 31 PAGE 32 PAGE 2