Illinois House Floor Debate — June 24, 1986

"Ladies and Gentlemen, the hour of 10:15 having arrived, this House will come to order. Hembers should be in their seats. The Chaplain for today will be Rabbi Barry Marks with the Temple Israel Synagogue of Springfield. Rabbi Marks is a guest of Representative Michael Curran. Will the guests in the gallery rise for the invocation?"

"Lord God, Creator and Guide, whose wisdom is manifest in the vast universe which surrounds us and whose love sustains us through the ups and downs of our daily existence - the joys and adversities, the moments of inspiration and of drabness as well, we acknowledge our dependence on You and on Your blessings. For life and sustenance, for love and friendship, for the ability to apprehend Your world and to enjoy its beauties, for the capacity to search for truth and to communicate what we know and what we feel to others, we are greatful. Each day brings with it new challenges and new opportunities to serve. Keep us alive to the possibilities and the pitfalls of each moment. Preserve us from cynicism and despair and from complacency. Bless us with the wisdom and the strength that we will need to perform our tasks to the best of our ability. Thus will we reflect glory on Your name. Thus we will help build the human society more firmly based on the ideals of justice and compassion and community which we profess. Amen."

"We will be led in the pledge by Representative Ropp."

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

"Roll Call for Attendance. All Members recorded 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 who wish? Are there any excused absences from either side of the aisle? Representative McCracken is not with us today. Representative Matijevich."

"Madam Speaker, none on this side of the aisle."

"Representative Pullen, can you tell us if there are any excused absences?"

"Representative McCracken is the excused absence that I'm aware of, Madam Speaker."

"Thank you very much."

"Thank you."

"That will be recorded. Mr. Clerk, take the Roll. 116 Members answering the Roll Call, there is a quorum present. Messages from the Senate."

"Message from the Senate by Mr. Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has concurred with the House of Representatives in passage of the following Bills together with Amendments; House Bills #523, 2486, 2630, 2738, 3036, 3043, 3058, 3298, 3302, 3340, 3422, 3473 and 3548, passed the Senate as amended June 23, 1986. Kenneth Wright, Secretary."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, we are prepared to go to the Order of Appropriations. So, if Members would get to their seats, if available staff dealing with those measures would come to the floor, we will prepare to go as soon as both sides of the aisle are ready. So, those dealing with the areas of appropriations please prepare to go to that Order of Business shortly. Agreed Resolutions."

"House Joint Resolution 224, offered by Representative Breslin and Hastert. Senate Joint Resolution 171, by Representative McGann. House Resolutions 1479, Leverenzi 1481, Hartke; 1482, Brunsvold and DeJaegher; 1483, Pullen - Williams (sic - Williamson) - 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day Koehler and Daniels; 1484, Weaver: 1487, Madigan Matijevich McGann and Terzich; 1488, Ronan Curran McGann Turner Wyvetter Younge and Anthony Young; 1489, Matijevich Friedrich Stern Churchill Peterson and Klemm; 1490, DeJaegher; 1491, McPike; 1492, Giorgi Capparelli Giglio Mautino DeLeo Laurino Homer Harris Terzich Matijevich Nash and Panayotovich; and 1493, Tate."

"Representative Matijevich."

"Madam Speaker, these Resolutions have been examined. They are agreed. So, I move the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."

"Representative Matijevich moves the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor say "aye', all those opposed say "no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Death Resolutions."

"Senate Joint Resolution 172, offered by Representative Harris, with respect to the memory of Charles A. Hodlmair. And House Resolution 1485, offered by Representative Shaw, with respect to the memory of Alfred F. Gage."

"Representative Matijevich moves the adoption of the Death Resolutions. All those in favor say 'aye", all those opposed say 'no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Resolutions are adopted. General Resolutions."

"House Resolution 1486, offered by Representative Wyvetter Younge."

"Committee on Assignments. Representative Giglio, did you have a question about Agreed Resolutions?"

"Well, I was wondering why my... Thank you, Ar.... Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I Was 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 Just wondering what happened to my Plumbers Resolution, Mr. Clerk? Was that included?"

"The Clerk said it went down the drain."

"Has it been approved?"

"It has... It has not been approved or adopted at this point."

"Oh, okay. Well, I'd like to be informed, because it's a very important Resolution, not only to me as a plumber but to every plumber in the country."

"Representative Piel, for what reason do you rise?"

"For clarification for the Gentleman on the other side of the aisle. We just checked with our staff, and it's clogged up in Rules Committee."

"That's not what we understand, Representative Piel. What is the number of the Resolution, Mr. Clerk? Resolution 14... House Joint Resolution? House Resolution 1480. Read the Resolution, Mr. Clerk."

"House Resolution 1480, offered by Representatives Giglio McGann Farley Ronan and Panayotovich. Whereas, at least one newspaper account of the recent arrest of Watergate burglar, Frank Sturgis, referred to him and his partners in crime as plumbers; and whereas, the word 'plumber' is derived from the Latin 'plumbum* meaning the metal known as 'lead' and the original meaning of 'plumber' as 'a worker in lead'; and whereas, 'plumber' now means an artisan who works in lead, zinc, tin and steel (sic sheet) metal and who furnishes, fittings and repairs gas, water and soil pipes, cisterns, tanks, baths, water closets and their fittings, and other sanitary and fire-protection apparatus for a house and other buildings including the junctions to the mains and sewers; and whereas, plumbing refers to the system of pipes, fixtures 4  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 and other apparatus used inside a building to supply water and remove liquid and waterborne wastes; and whereas, the basic purpose of a plumbing system is to bring into and distribute within a building a supply of safe water to be used for drinking purposes and to collect and dispose of polluted and contaminated waste water from the various receptacles of the premises without hazard to the health of occupants; and whereas, since the time of Moses, man has been cautioned to dispose of his wastes safely, and cleanliness has been related to the availability of water and associated with social custom; and whereas, latrine-like receptacles with crude drains have been found in excavations in the Orkney Islands of Neolithic stone huts at least 10,000 years old and both a water system and piping used as drainage fashioned of terra-cotta pipe were part of the Royal Palace of Minos in Crete about 2000 B.C., and the palace also had a latrine with water-flushing reservoir and drainage; and whereas, plumbing is an ancient and honorable profession and is essential to the safety, health, happiness and general welfare of all people; therefore, be it resolved, by the House of Representatives of the 84th General Assembly of the State of Illinois, that it is the sense of this Body that news media continues to subject honest tradesmen to public ridicule and scorn by again asserting falsely that the outrageously disgraceful and illegal acts of lawyers and professional burglars, spies and electronic wiretappers and dirty-tricksters, perpetrated for the sole purpose of subverting the democratic process, were perpetrated by plumbers; that we apologize publicly to all persons engaged in the plumbing business for these unwarranted denigrations of honest, respectable persons; that we urge the news media to cease characterizing the felons involved in the activities of 5  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 June 17, 1972, in the Watergate Complex, Washington, D.C., as plumbers; and be it further resolved, that a suitable copy of this Preamble and Resolution be forwarded, by the Office of the Secretary of State, to the president of each of the following organizations: The Chicago Sun-Times; the Associated Press and United Press International News Services: the Columbia Broadcasting System; the National Broadcasting System (sic Company); the American Broadcasting System (sic Company); and the American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations."

"The Chair recognizes that old and honorable plumber, Representative Giglio."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The purpose of the Resolution is to, once again, bring to light to those that write the articles in the newspapers. You know, it was about nine years ago that I had the first Resolution, when the Watergate incident took place, and here we go again. Last week, we had another article in the Sun-Times from the Sun-Times that says, •Watergate Plumber Sturgis Arrested'. This is one of the guys that was one of those dirty-tricksters nine years ago, and here he is again, and the article alludes to being one of the four plumbers, and the plumbers unit that did the dirty tricks and eavesdropping and everthing else. And I take offense of that, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, as a plumber and as a professional tradesman, along with all the other tradesmen in the United States. I think it's a disgrace and a dishonor that these people who did these dirty tricks. The majority of them were lawyers. They weren't even plumbers. They should have called them the lawyers, that's what they should have called them. And they use the term 'plumbers' to talk about those people that did those things. Plumbers 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 wouldn't even stoop that low. It's bad enough that they work in the trenches, and it's bad enough they have to work in that sewer water and human excrement and everything else. We're an honorable trade. We serve an apprenticeship, just like everybody else, and we're proud of our license. And I take offense. And I hope that these people who write these articles that maybe they'd start to read the journal and see what we do when we come up with some of these Resolutions like I have today. And remember that when they go write their articles, they'll write about the people that really did these things and don't pick on people that don't and don't play games with the words of the people that don't do these. I would ask, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, that this Resolution be adopted unanimously. Thank you."

"Representative Giglio moves for the adoption of House Resolution 1480. And on that question, the Gentleman From Dewitt, Representative Vinson."

"Yes, Madam Speaker, I wonder if the Sponsor would yield for a question?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative, I came in the midst of your speech. I think I agree with you. You're saying this former Watergate 'plumber' is employed by the Speaker's staff?"

"No, they were employed by the Nixon staff, if I recall."

"But now you're saying he's on Madigan's staff, is that what you're..."

"There's no plumbers who would do that to our Leader, no way."

"And then you were saying that Madigan's association with the trial lawyers deserved serious review, is that what it was?"

"My Speaker... My Speaker... My Speaker wouldn't 7  133rd Legislative Day lie..." STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986

"This is a good Resolution, and I'd urge everybody to vote for it. We do need to review that relationship with the trial lawyers."

"The question is, Shall House Resolution 1480 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay". In the opinion of the Chair... Excuse me, Representative Giorgi on this question."

"Madam Speaker, in explaining my vote, a lot of those plumbers resemble the last Speaker. They were mostly Nazi-types and attorneys that went to jail."

"All those in favor say 'aye", all those opposed say 'no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it, and House Resolution 1480 is adopted. Ladies and Gentlemen, on page two on your Calendar, appears Senate Bills Third Reading. The first Bill is Senate Bill 1519, Representative Keane. Representative Keane. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1602, Representative Keane Leverenz. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1602, a Bill for an..."

"Out of the record. Senate Bill 1605, Representative Keane - Hastert. Okay, Representative Keane has just arrived. If there are no objections, we'll go back to the top of the Roll Call. Senate Bill 1519. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1519, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Auditor General. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Leverenz. Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1519 would be the Office of the Auditor General's budget. We have 10,681,000 dollars, and 8  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 I would move for the passage of Senate Bill 1519."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1519. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1519 pass?" All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote "no". Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'aye", none voting "no", and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1602, Representative Keane. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1602, a Bill for an Act making certain appropriations for higher education. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Keane.

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. House... Senate Bill 1602 appropriates 42,264,320 dollars to the Board of Higher Education for ordinary and contingent expenses and grants. It appropriates 3,250,000 to the Department of Public Health for distribution of medical education scholarships. I ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1602. And on that question, the Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker (sic Madam Speaker), I wonder if the Sponsor would yield for a question?"

"Indicates he will."

"What's the total amount of this, Representative?"

"Fourty-two million, five hundred twenty-seven thousand."

"And this is just for the Board of Higher Education to keep operating?"

"Well, within the Board of Higher Education it's grants."

"Oh, it's grants." 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"Yes."

"What... I'm not familiar with what June 24, 1986 that's all about anymore. What... Could you just give me a brief lesson on what we spend that money for?"

"Sure, and we... They fund the higher education, cooperative education, the Interinstitutional Regional Academic Center Grants, Quad-Cities Graduate Study Center, Library of Resource Sharing, Illinois Senior Fellowship Program, Governor's Allocation. They have HECA Grants, Health Service Education Grants, Engineering Equipment Grants. The title two under education for economic security, higher education title two fund, medical education scholarships, dental student grants, Department of Public Health, the Illinois Consortium of Educational Opportunity."

"What's that Japanese School Program?"

"The Japanese... Let me get back to it. The Japanese School Program is... it's for fiscal '87. Their recommendation is 250,000. It will provide the planning needs necessary for school programs to meet educational needs of Japanese children with parents employed by Japanese business concerns on assignments in Illinois, basically, Bloomington."

"Thank you."

"You're welcome."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1602 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 107 voting 'aye', 3 voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1605, Representative Keane. Clerk, 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day read the Bill." June 24, 1986

"Senate Bill 1605, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Board of Governors of State Colleges and Universities. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Keane."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. The Senate Bill 1605 provides for 183,945,000 dollars for the Board of Governors Universities. I would be happy to answer any questions and ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1605. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1605 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 108 voting 'aye', 1 voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1606, Representative Richmond. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1606, a Bill for an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of Southern Illinois University. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Richmond."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1606 is the Budget Bill for Southern Illinois University the total dollars is 203,115,000 dollars."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1606. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1606 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 108 voting 'aye', 3 voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1607, Representative Matijevich. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1607, a Bill for an Act making certain appropriations to the Illinois State Scholarship Commission. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Matijevich."

"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Bill... Senate Bill 1607 appropriates 302,851,300 dollars to the Illinois State Scholarship Commission. In the House, we added 7,039,600 dollars so the Scholarship Commission now has a responsibility for administering the veterans scholarships at 100 percent funding level. And we also added 825,000 dollars, 750,000 of it in federal funds, so that we can capture the Carl Perkins Scholarships. I would move for the passage of Senate Bill 1607."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1607. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1607 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1609, Representative Satterthwaite. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1609, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Board of Trustees of the University of Illinois. Third Reading of the Bill." 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 133rd Legislative Day

"Representative Satterthwaite."

"Madam Speaker and Members of the House, Senate Bill 1609 is the budget for the University of Illinois. As the Bill came out of Committee, it is 555,000,000 dollars. It provides for roughly a six percent salary increase, and I would be happy to try to respond to any questions."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1609. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, Shall Senate Bill 1609 pass? All those in favor vote 'aye", all those opposed vote "no". Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 107 voting 'aye", 2 voting 'no', and none voting present. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1610, Representative Countryman. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1610, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Board of Regents. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Countryman."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1610 is the appropriation for the ordinary expenses for the Board of Regents. As it's been amended, it's at 196,181,200 dollars. It contains a 6.5 salary increment, as the other higher education Bills did. This Bill has been amended in Committee to reduce in the amount of 27,600 dollars, which would... is the amount equal to the housing cost for the Chancellor of the Board of Regents, and with the intent of terminating that lease. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1610. And on that question, is there any 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 discussion? Hearing none, the question is, Shall Senate Bill 1610 pass?" All those in favor vote 'aye", all those opposed vote 'no". Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 107 voting 'aye", none voting... 2 voting 'no'. and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 16... Representative DeJaegher wished to be recorded as voting 'aye'. That will be noted in recorded. Representative DeJaegher. Senate Bill 1611, Representative Keane. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1611, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Illinois Community College Board and the Board of Trustees to the State Community College of East St. Louis. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Keane."

"Can I take this back to Second Reading to remove two Amendments, please?"

"The Gentleman asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of removing Amendments. Does he have leave? Hearing no objections, the Gentleman has leave. The Bill is on Second Reading. Do you have a Motion, Representative Keane?"

"Yes, I move to table Amendment #2, which appropriated 250,000 to the Probation Challenge Program. The substantive legislation failed in the Senate yesterday."

"The Gentleman asks leave to table Amendment #2. Is there any discussion? Representative Hastert."

"Yes, I just couldn't hear the explanation. It was noisy in here."

"He said that he wants to table Amendment #2 which removes 150,000 dollars for the Probation Challenge Program, because the substantive legislation failed in the 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 Senate yesterday. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none, the question is, Shall Amendment #2 be tabled? All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is tabled. Are there any further Motions?"

"There are no further Motions."

"Okay, Representative, the Bill moves to Third Reading. Representative... Excuse me, back to Second Reading. Representative Keane."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I also move to table Amendment #4, which budgeted... which would create a one year pilot project known as The Probation Alternative Project. That Bill also substantive Bill failed in the Senate."

"The Gentleman moves to table Amendment #4 to Senate Bill 1611. This Bill is on Second Reading. Is there any objection? Hearing none, Amendment #4 is tabled. Any further Motions?"

"No, thank you."

"No. Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1617 Isic - Senate Bill 1611, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Illinois Community College Board and the Board of Trustees to State Community College of East St. Louis. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Keane."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. The Bill appropriates funds for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Community College Board and the Board of Trustees of the State Community College of East St. Louis in the amount of 200,857,000. I'd be happy to answer any questions and ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1611. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1611 pass?" All those in favor vote 'aye", all those opposed vote 'no". Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? The Gentleman from Macon, Representative Dunn, one minute to explain your vote. Do you wish to explain your vote? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 105 voting 'aye", 4 voting "no", and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1626, Representative Madigan Daniels Leverenz. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1626, a Bill for an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the General Assembly. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you. This is the appropriation for the General Assembly, Senate Bill 1626. It has 19,532,300 dollars, and I ask for your 'aye vote."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1626. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1626 pass?" All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote "no. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 106 voting 'aye, 4 voting "no", and none voting present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1626, Representative Madigan Daniels Leverenz Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1627, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the General Assembly. Third Reading of the Bill." 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"Representative Leverenz." June 24, 1986 "Thank you, Madam Speaker. This is Senate Bill 1627, carries a total appropriation of 5,369,000 dollars for the district office expense allotments. I would ask for your *aye vote to pass the Bill."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1626. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1626 pass?" All those in favor vote... Excuse me, Representative Flinn. It should be 1627, Mr. Clerk. The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1627 pass?" All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no". Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 105 voting 'aye", 5 voting 'no", and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1639, Representative Leverenz. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1639, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Office of State Treasurer. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1639 has a total appropriation of 514,903,400. I ask for your 'aye' vote to pass the Bill."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1639. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1639 pass?" All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no". Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 17  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 103 voting 'aye', none voting... June 24, 1986 Representative Leverenz wishes to vote 'aye'. There are 100... Representative Richmond votes 'aye'. Representative Flinn votes 'aye'. Representative Levin votes 'aye'. Representative Vinson votes 'aye'. On this question, there are... Representative Christensen votes 'aye'. On this question, there are 109 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1698, Representative Leverenz. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1698, a Bill for an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent and distribute of expenses to the State Comptroller and various state agencies. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Leverenz."

"I thank you, Madam Speaker. Senate Bill 1698 would include for the Office of the Comptroller 46,080,589. I would ask for you 'aye' vote to pass the Bill."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of Senate Bill 1698. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, "Shall Senate Bill 1698 pass?" All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'aye', I voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1736, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1736, a Bill for an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Office of Lieutenant Governor. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes." 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1736 addresses the appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Office of the Lieutenant Governor. Incorporating all the floor action, it gives 1,804,100 dollars to the Office. This includes 1,794,100 dollars General Revenue Fund and 10,000 from other funds. I recommend 'do adopt'."

"The Gentleman... the Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1736. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1736 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 109 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page three on your Calendar, Ladies and Gentlemen, appears Senate Bill 1737, Representative Hastert. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1737, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department on Aging. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Hastert asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Does he have leave? Hearing no objection, the Gentleman has leave. Are there any Amendments filed, Representative... or Mr. Clerk?"

"Floor Amendment #14, offered by Representative Hastert."

"Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As you remember last week when we were doing this 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 Bill, there was some... a... unsettled issues yet and we did agree to bring this back to Second Reading. We're at Amendment #14. The Amendment #14 is... Amendment for 480,900 dollars. The purpose of this Amendment, as you remember last year, there was some disagreement on how the Department on Aging put out contracts for purchases of services. There was a... Governor appointed a Committee to look into this and the recommendations of the Committee on how to change the mode of providing services to the different agencies will add on or require extra personnel. This is the add on for that personnel to fulfill the requirements of that Committee."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #14 to Senate Bill 1737. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, *Shall Amendment #14 be adopted?* All those in favor say 'aye", all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #15, offered by Representative Bowman."

"Representative Bowman."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Amendment is technical in nature. It adds clarifying language pursuant to the Department's stated intent when they came before us in hearings. It is identical to, in intent, to Amendment which was adopted previously, but because of a flaw had to be tabled. This corrects the flaw, and I move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #15 to Senate Bill 1737. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, Shall Amendment #15 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye", 20  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 all those opposed say 'no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #16, offered by Representative Bowman."

"Representative Bowman."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. In Committee, we added on an Amendment... 500,000 dollar add on to continue a series of demonstration grants to community based organizations for community minority in-home service projects. The... after some discussions with the Department. it seems like a better course of action, one which they would support, would be to take the money... instead of adding it on, take the money out of the line for the Community Care Program. That is what this Amendment does. We've already tabled the Amendment which provided for the add on. So, this just provides for no dollar change. I move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #16 to Senate Bill 1737. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, "Shall Amendment #16 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye", all those opposed say 'no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #17, offered by Representative Bowman."

"Representative Bowman. Representative Bowman."

"Okay. Thank you, Madam Chairman... Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Amendment cleans up some language that was in the Bill initially. The Bill initially... one of the captions was a little bit too restrictive in terms of the Home Delivered Meal Program. 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day What this Amendment does is to provide greater June 24, 1986 flexibility in the use of those funds. The monies... there is no dollar change and the monies are still earmarked for home delivered meals. So, I move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #17 to Senate Bill 1737. And on that question, the Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert."

"Thank you. Madam Speaker. Would the Sponsor of the Amendment yield, please?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative Bowman, I just want to clarify something here. What we're actually doing is opening up the categories for which a set amount of dollars can be used. Is that correct?"

"That is correct. The problem, Representative Hastert, is that in certain parts of the state, volunteer organizations provide transportation free of charge. So, the area agencies on aging in those parts of the state, in effect, do not have access to these dollars and this would permit, if the Department approved, to use the monies for food itself, not just for transportation purposes."

"So, before and again to clarify this, this money could only be used to purchase vans and equipment to transport food. Now, what we're actually doing is being able to pay for labor, in some cases, for the commodity itself and other things. Is that correct?"

"That is correct."

"Do you project that in future years this will increase this line item to any great extent across the state?"

"Well, that's... that is not my intent. The only intent of this legislation is to provide a more equitable distribution of the monies so that areas will not be penalized merely because they are successful in getting 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 volunteers to transport the food. I have no expense to the state."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Representative Leverenz on the question."

"Will the Gentleman yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Will this, in any way, interrupt the formula for the 13 area agencies?"

"No, Representative Leverenz, this is completely separate and apart from considerations of the formula allocation."

"Madam Speaker, to the Amendment. I guess this might be the best time to explain it to the Body. I do not intend to offer any Amendment to redo any part of the formula. I understand this does not interrupt that either. But we have asked the legislative liaison last Wednesday to provide us with information, because per capita is part of the grant process to the 13 agencies. Mr. Bachman did not provide that information. The Assistant Director, Mr. Collins, stood on the House floor saying, the new formula was already in place. Area agencies that have gone to the meetings that were held throughout the state were led to believe that the formula was not yet firm and decided and in place. They thought whatever they said would be considered for a formula change in as much as the new formula would be in effect for the next five or six years. We really don't know today, or I don't know today, in response to the questions asked to me by Representative Flowers - Braun and Alexander, what the per capita is even in the City of Chicago for what they proposed to serve in area 12 and also in the suburban area. I probably intend to vote "present" on the appropriation. They have promised maybe to bring information over today at noon, but that will be too late. Thank you." 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

June 24, 1986 "The Gentleman from Will, Representative Regan, on the Amendment." "Will the Speaker (sic Sponsor) yield for a question please?"

"Thank you. "He indicates he will." Representative, isn't there another line item that deals with food in the budget already?"

"There's a nutrition services line."

"And does not deal with food."

"It deals with food, yes."

"Well, why do we need two line items dealing with food?"

"Well, Representative Regan, I tried to explain that. Let me try once again. These monies are originally earmarked for... specifically for transportation, and unfortunately, some agencies are penalized by virtue of their ability to recruit volunteers to transport the food free of charge. And it is our intent through this Amendment to try and make the allocation in this line a little more equitable so some agencies which have been very aggressive in that regard and gotten these volunteer agencies to transport at their own cost, and that they not be penalized for their efforts. That's the reason. Just fairness."

"Well, it just seems to me that it's one more add on, and it definitely is a precedent. There is General Revenue Funds being used in here for labor and commodities. I intend to vote against it. Thank you."

"Representative Bowman, to close."

"Well, the last speaker used a word, 'add on', incorrectly. This is not an add on. All this does is to change the caption in the line and to provide for some flexibility on the part of administering these funds. The Department on Aging would still have the final say in how 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 the funds will be allocated. I trust their good judgement. I call upon my colleagues to trust their good judgement, too. I move for adoption of this Amendment."

"The question is, "Shall Amendment #17 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 97 voting 'aye', 15 voting 'no', and none voting 'present', and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #18 is offered by Representative Bowman."

"Representative Bowman."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a transfer Amendment. It takes 88,000 dollars out of the... one line and places it into the monitoring and support services grant line in relation to the Community Care Program. There's no net dollar change. I move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #18 to Senate Bill 1737. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, Shall Senate... Shall Amendment #18 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Hastert now moves for Immediate consideration of Senate Bill 1737 as Amendment... amended. Does he have leave? Hearing no objection, the Gentleman has leave. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1737, a Bill for an Act making 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses to the Department on Aging. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating the floor action we just took, the ordinary and contingent expenses for the Department of Aging now appropriates 135,405,100 dollars to the Department on Aging. I'd be happy to ask any questions... answer any questions."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1737. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"I would just indicate to the suburban and Collar County, which might be the Sponsor of the Bill, and the Peoria area that they sure should certainly vote *present' as a protest against the formula on the distribution of the money, and even Chicago should because their questions were not answered."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Bowman, on the Bill."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Representative Leverenz makes a good point. I am, as Chairman of the Committee to which this Bill went, I wish to support the legislation. I will be voting for it, however, I do wish to underscore some of his remarks and express my concern as well over some of the changes that are being proposed for the formula. Now, nothing is engraved in granite at this point, at least I hope not, but I have been given no indication that it has yet been engraved in granite. I believe that the best course of action would be to retain the 1907... 1979 base as the starting point, and then to use current estimates of population, rather the 1980 estimates of population. And 26  133rd Legislative Day that way, we STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 combine the best of the old and the best of the new in establishing a formula. That is my own proposal and I think it would probably make the most people happy. But for the time being, my understanding is that the various area agencies on aging are willing to work with the Department to try and work out an equitable formula. I just wish to go on record in urging the Department to try and satisfy the competing claims in accordance with the views that they have heard expressed in this chamber. I think Representative Leverenz's remarks are well taken, but I will be supporting the Bill in its final passage."

"Representative Hastert, to close."

"Thank you, Madam Chairman... Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I just want to comment that I understand Representative Leverenz's concern. I also understand from my information that that formula is still being negotiated. that nothing is cast in granite, and certainly, the different... 13 different agencies on aging across the State of Illinois are still in the process of negotiating. So, I think the appropriate vote would be a 'yes' vote and look for your support."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1737 pass?'" All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Representative Kubik, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I know that Representative Hastert has worked very hard on this Bill in trying to solve some of the problems. Unfortunately, I do not think that the Department has been as responsive as it should be. As a suburban Legislator, I think our area is unfairly being hurt by this proposal. I would hope that the Department will look at this very very carefully before they institute a formula and, in protest, 27  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 I plan to vote 'present". Thank you."

"Representative Didrickson, one minute to explain your vote."

"Yes, thank you, Madam Speaker. I also, as a suburban Legislator, am going to vote 'present on this. I think this is a very important Department. One that I've worked closely with, but we are discriminated against with regards to per capita at about 13 dollars. I don't think it's fair. A new formula does need to be enacted and that is the reason for my "present" vote. Just to send a message."

"The Lady from DuPage, Representative Cowlishaw, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. The fact that there are a good many inequities involved in that proposed formula, whether it is in granite, concrete or whatever, or whether it is still influx, nevertheless, it has been very difficult, even for people like Representative Leverenz, to get the attention of the Department. It would seem to me that if there were a lot of "present" votes, we would finally get their attention. Thank you."

Speaker Breslin "The Gentleman from Will, Representative Regan. you already spoke... no you didn't speak on the Bill, excuse me. One minute to explain your vote."

"Yes, thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. I'd sure like to see more yellows up there. It's obvious that Mr. Leverenz had an idea here when he spread it out fairly throughout the state at 22 dollars a head. That was a shock to me because our area gets $14.35. And when I found out other areas get 30 dollars a head, something is definitely wrong with the formula. I think if there's more yellow votes up there, we're sending a message, we're not telling the senior citizens of the State of Illinois we 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 don't care, we're telling them we want to be fair."

"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 86 voting 'aye', 2 voting 'no', and 25 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1739, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1739, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the Abandoned Mines Lands Reclamation Council. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1739 appropriates funds for the Abandoned Mine Lands Reclamation Council Federal Trust Fund for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the council. Incorporating all floor action, we appropriated 17,384,500 dollars to the council. This amount includes no General Revenue Funds. I would recommend 'do adopt*."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1739. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1739 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1740, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1740, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Illinois State Lottery. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Sarnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the 29  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 House. Senate Bill 1740 addresses the Illinois State Lottery budget. Incorporating all the floor action, Senate Bill 1740 appropriates 377,262,836 dollars to the Illinois State Lottery for ordinary and contingent expenses. I would recommend 'do adopt'."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1740. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1740 pass?" All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no". Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 105 voting 'aye", 6 voting 'no", and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1745, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1745, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Judicial Inquiry Board. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Senate Bill 1745, as introduced, appropriates 338,600 dollars General Revenue Funds for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Judicial Inquiry Board. I would recommend 'do adopt'."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1745. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1745 pass?" All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no". Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1746. Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1746, a Bill for an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Office of Governor. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1746 as introduced appropriates 6,719,100 dollars for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Office of the Governor. I would recommend do adopt"."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1746. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, "Shall Senate Bill 1746 pass?" All those in favor vote 'aye", all those opposed vote 'no". Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 109 voting 'aye', I voting 'no', and none... Representative Hallock votes 'aye'. There are 110 voting 'aye', 1 voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1747, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1747, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Agriculture. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1747, incorporating all floor action, appropriates 56,966,800 dollars to the Department of Agriculture. This amount includes 22,353,900 dollars 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 General Revenue Fund, and 34,612,900 dollars from other funds. I would recommend 'do adopt'."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1747. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1747 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and 2 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1748, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1748, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Central Management Services. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"I would like permission to bring Senate Bill 1748 back to Second for a technical Amendment."

"The Lady asks... The Lady asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Does the Lady have leave? She does. Are there any Amendments filed, Mr. Clerk?"

"Floor Amendment #11, offered by Representative Barnes."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is merely a technical Amendment to change some of the language that was incorrect. I would move 'do adopt'."

"The Lady moves for the adoption of Amendment #11 to Senate Bill 1748. Is there any discussion? Hearing 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 none, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?" All those in favor say "aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the *ayes have it, and Amendment #11 is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. The Lady now asks leave for immediate consideration of Senate Bill 1748 as adopted. Does she have leave? Hearing no objection, the Lady has leave. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1748, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Central Management Services. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all floor action, Senate Bill 1748 appropriates 556,891,500 dollars to the Department of Central Management Services. This amount includes 141,635,700 dollars General Revenue Funds, and 415,255,800 dollars from other funds. I would recommend 'do adopt*."

"The Lady moves for the passage of Senate Bill 1748. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1748 pass?* All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question. there are 109 voting 'aye, none voting 'no", and none voting "present". This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1749, Representative Hastert. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1749, a Bill for an Act making 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense for the Department of Children and Family Services. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Deuchler, for what reason do you rise?"

"Question of the Sponsor."

"The Gentleman hasn't presented the Bill yet. Representative Hastert, on the Bill."

"Thank you. Madam Speaker. Senate Bill 1749 is the ordinary and contingent expenses for the Department of Children and Family Services. There was some additions on in Committee and would be happy to answer any questions you might have."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1749. And on that question, the Lady from Kane, Representative Deuchler."

"Representative Hastert, some information has just come to me regarding the number of case workers assigned to Cook County, which is 697 case workers. Whereas, we certainly understand that the city may have some severe problems with child abuse and we would certainly want them to Follow through on problems and the hotline and so forth. It appears that all of the five collar counties have a total of 97 case workers. So, you have on the one hand 697 in the city and 97 in the collar counties, for example, il are assigned to DuPage. That seems quite disparate to me, and Im wondering if you could explain why... why the collar counties are receiving so few case workers?"

"Well, thank you, Representative Deuchler. I understand that the appropriation of case workers is based on case load, and that... that they are based approximately about the same number of case load per worker. Now, if you see some disparagement in that, and I know you and I represent 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 the same area in the Aurora agency, I would like to sit down with the Department and try to work this out. I can't tell you anymore than that."

"Well, Representative Hastert, I wish that you would do that before this budget reaches final passage stage, because I think that so often we don't really look at these questions in depth. I think there is a question of equity and of... more or less of a formula application here, and we would certainly want to see that... that children in our area received timely services from the Department and that would be a priority with me, and I know it would be with you."

"Well, Representative, I appreciate that, and I would... If you would come to me and would sit down. I'll try to arrange a meeting. And if you have some projected numbers, I'll be happy to work with you on that."

"Thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1749 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1750, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1750, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Employment Security. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Madam Speaker, I would like the permission to bring the Bill back to Second." 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

June 24, 1986 "The Lady asks leave to return the Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Does she have leave? Hearing no objection, the Lady has leave. Are there any Amendments filed, Mr. Clerk?"

"It's to table... Representative Leverenz wants to table his Amendment #2."

"Okay. Representative Leverenz on a Motion."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and for the professional help from Representative Barnes, which I need occasionally. I'd like to move to table Amendment #2 for the following reason. The Amendment cut their telecommunications in half. We have an agreement from the director. The agreement is relative to hearings in the appeals process. They were doing telephone appeals hearings. They will reverse themselves totally. The hearings will be conducted in person. unless requested. Secondly, they have made a commitment to decentralize the referees. The agency that will then situate the referees throughout the state in a manner designed to maximize the efficiency while providing the greatest possible convenience. I now move to table Amendment #2."

"The Gentleman moves to table Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1750. And on that question, is there any discussion? Representative Leverenz. Representative Leverenz."

"I have made a mistake because I didn't have the actual Amendment in my hand. Please make it Amendment 1."

"Okay. The Gentleman is moving to table Amendment #1. His remarks referred to Amendment #1, not to Amendment #2."

"That is correct."

"Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 be tabled?' All those in 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and Amendment #1 is tabled. Are there any further Motions or Amendments?"

"No further Motions or Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Barnes, asks leave to have immediate consideration of Senate Bill 1750. Does she have leave? She has leave. Read the Bill on Third, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1750, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense for the Department of Employment Security. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Madam Speaker, I would like to wait just a second until we see if we are tabling the right Amendment."

"Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you. Could the Clerk tell us what Amendment #2 did? There were only two."

"Mr. Clerk."

"Amendment #2, on page one line 20, by deleting 78,400 and inserting 39,200, and on page..."

"Same Amendment..."

"What did Amendment #1 do, Mr. Clerk?"

"Amendment #1, on page five line 11, by deleting 9,099,100 and inserting in lieu thereof 9,129,100."

"I'm sorry to do this. Can we just ask that this be taken out of the record so we don't table the wrong Amendment?"

"Okay. Out of the record, according to Representative Barnes. We'll go on now to Senate Bill 1752, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1752, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 the Department of Energy and Natural Resources. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would permission to bring this back to Second for an Amendment."

"The Lady asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Does she have leave? Hearing no objections, the Lady has leave. Are there any Amendments filed, Mr. Clerk?"

"Floor Amendment #19. offered by Representative Richmond."

"Representative Richmond, on Amendment #19, to the appropriation for the Department of Energy and Natural Resources."

"Withdraw the Amendment."

"Withdraw Amendment #19. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #20, offered by Representative Richmond."

"Representative Richmond."

"I'd like to withdraw that one also."

"Withdraw Amendment #20. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #21, offered by Representative Richmond and Leverenz."

"Representative Richmond."

"Representative Leverenz is going to present that Amendment."

"Representative Leverenz on Amendment #21."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. The Amendment would appropriate 1,500,000 from the Coal Development Fund to the Department of Energy and Natural Resources for expenses 38  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 connected with the planning design and engineering of a demonstration project for energy conservation. I would move for the adoption of the Amendment."

"Representative Leverenz moves for the adoption of Amendment #21. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #21 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #22, offered by Representative Leverenz."

"Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This Amendment 22 would delete 1,700,000 dollars from the Petroleum Violation... in Petroleum Violation Funds. It also deletes 50,000,000 dollars from the Coal Development Fund for the Department of Energy and Natural Resources, which was part of the rural revival initiative, and also, deletes 15,000,000 from the Petroleum Violation Fund, which was also part of the rural revival. I would move for the adoption of Amendment #22."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #22 to Senate Bill 1752. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #22 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Barnes, now asks leave for immediate consideration of Senate Bill 1752 as amended. Does she have leave? Hearing no objections, the Lady has leave. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"Senate Bill 1752, a Bill for June 24, 1986 an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Energy and Natural Resources. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all the floor action and the Amendments that were just presented, Senate Bill 1752 appropriates approximately 114,314,800 dollars to the budget for the Department of Energy and Natural Resources. I would recommend 'do adopt'."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1752. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1752 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'aye', 1 voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1753, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1753, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Environmental Protection Agency. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all floor action thus far, Senate Bill 1753 appropriates 261,425,600 dollars to the Illinois Environmental Protection Agency. This amount includes 71,423,900 dollars General Revenue Funds and 190,100,700 from other funds. I would recommend 'do adopt'." 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1753. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none. the question is, Shall Senate Bill 1753 pass?' All those in favor vote aye", all those opposed vote "no". Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. Cn this question, there are 111 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1754, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1754, a Sill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Insurance. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes.

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all Amendments, Senate Bill 1754 appropriates 10,125,700 dollars to the Department of Insurance; 4,909,400 from General Revenue Funds: 5,216,300 from other funds. I would recommend do adopt*."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1754. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, Shall Senate Bill 1754 pass?" All those in favor vote 'aye", all those opposed vote 'no". Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 109 voting 'aye', 2 voting 'no', and 4 voting "present". This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1755, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1755, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense for 41  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 the Department of Labor. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all floor action, Senate Bill 1755 appropriates 4,069,700 dollars for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Labor. I would recommend 'do adopt'."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1755. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1755 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 105 voting 'aye', 4 voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. With leave of the Body, we will go back to Senate Bill 1750. Senate Bill 1752 (sic - 1750). That was taken out of the record while the Bill was on Third Reading. We understand that there was a problem. The wrong Amendment was tabled. Representative Barnes, therefore, asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading... It was held on Second. I see. Okay. The Bill was held on Second, then. And Representative Leverenz is recognized for a Motion."

"Thank you. I was right in the first place. I now move to reconsider the vote by which we tabled Amendment #1."

"The Gentleman has moved to reconsider the vote by which Amendment #1 was tabled. And on that question, Representative Barnes, do you wish to speak to this Motion? Representative Barnes. He has moved to..."

"Representative Leverenz, I would like to know for the 42  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 record now which Amendment did that you table, number 1 or #2?"

"We tabled 1. We're reconsidering the vote... vote to put that one back on. We are then going to move to table 2, which I tried to do in the first place."

"Thank you."

"The question is, Shall Amendment #1... The question is, 'Shall we reconsider the vote by which Amendment #1 was tabled?" All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And by use of the Attendance Roll Call, Representative Leverenz now moves to table Amendment #2. Is there any discussion?"

"I'd ask leave for the Attendance Roll Call on that, too."

"And on that question, the Gentleman from Marion. Representative Friedrich."

"I believe you left out one step, Madam Speaker. You reconsidered, but you didn't reinstate Amendment #1."

"You are correct..."

"You reconsidered the vote, but you did not move to adopt it again."

"Okay. You are correct. Representative Leverenz, therefore, moves to adopt Amendment #1."

"Correct."

"Is there any discussion? Hearing no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye", all those opposed say 'no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Representative Leverenz now moves to table Amendment #2. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be tabled?" All those in favor say 'aye", all those opposed 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 say 'no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and Amendment #2 is tabled. Representative Barnes now asks leave for immediate consideration of Senate Bill 1750 on Third Reading. Move the Bill to Third, Mr. Clerk. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1750, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Employment Security. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all floor action past and present, 17... or Senate Bill 1750 appropriates 196,730,000 for the Department of Employment Security."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1750. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1750 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed... All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Representative Brookins, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I cannot vote for a budget with a director that is so callous that they can layoff 300 people and not give these people the opportunity to reapply for employment within that agency, to seek out employment in comparable jobs in other agencies. This is as devastating to the community from which I come from. There has been no attempt on the part of this director to come and sit down with our... or any of my colleagues and say, 'Hey, this is what we're going to attempt to do, to rectify or solve these problems.' I'm appalled and I have wrestled with this and have spoke in previous years with this director. So I can not vote for this budget." 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day Speaker June 24, 1986

"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 85 voting 'aye', 11 voting 'no', and 21 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page four of your Calendar, appears Senate Bill 1756, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1756, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense for the Department of Nuclear Safety. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would like permission to bring Senate Bill 1756 back to the Second for purposes of an Amendment."

"The Lady asks leave to return Senate Bill 1756 to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Does she have leave? Hearing no objections, the Lady has leave. Are there any Amendments filed, Mr. Clerk?"

"Floor Amendment #6, offered by Representative Leverenz and Barnes."

"Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #6 would make the following restorations totaling $75,000. Restores $25,000 to the operation of agreement state licensing data processing system, $10,000 for the Nuclear Power Plant monitoring systems; $29,900 in personnel costs in the Environmental Safety Division; 10,100 for operations of automotive equipment. I move for the adoption of the Amendment to the Senate Bill 1756."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #6 to Senate Bill 1756. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL AS SEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 Amendment #6 be adopted? All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no". In opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Barnes ask leave for immediate consideration of Senate Bill 1756 as amended. Does she have leave? Hearing no objections, the Lady has leave."

"Senate Bill 1756, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense for the Department of Nuclear Safety. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all floor action past and present, Senate Bill 1756 appropriates $15,491,500 to the Department of Nuclear Safety. I would recommend 'do adopt'."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1756. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none. the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1756 be adopted... be passed? All those if favor vote 'aye', all those opposed voted 'no". Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 114 voting 'aye', 1 voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1758, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1758, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of State Police. Third Reading of the Bill." 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"Thank "Representative Barnes." you, June 24, 1986 Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all floor action, Senate Bill 1758 appropriates $156,352,400 of the Department of the State Police. This amount includes $112,427,600 General Revenue Funds and 46,924,800 in other funds. I would recommend do adopt.."

Speaker Breslin: "The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1758. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Harris."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Question of the Sponsor?"

Harris:

"Representative Barnes." "Representative, I should have asked this perhaps when we were considering the House Amendment, but I didn't. Can you tell me what is the 2.1 million dollars contained in House Amendment #1, what is that for?" "House Amendment referring to 1... Representative Harris, are you Committee Amendment #L or Senate... which Amendment are... Are you referring to Committee Amendment #1?"

"I'm not sure where it was adopted. My analysis simply says House Amendment #1 increases by $2,106,800 for operational line items. What are the operational line items?"

"Well, Committee Amendment #1, Leverenz Barnes. Hasara Tate, restored a total of $2,378,800 that were cut from various lines by the Senate. A sum of 2,069,000 were General Revenue Funds and $309,800 from the Road Fund. The restoration affected programs in divisions listed below: DSP leases Automated Fingerprint Identification System and "I Search" funds, forensic services personnel..."

"Okay. You hit part of it. Did you say something about the fingerprint computer?" 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"Yes I did."

"And what is that?" June 24, 1986

"The fingerprint computer system was $453,300."

"Is that... okay, thank you very much."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"Just to explain that the Automated Fingerprinting System is in."

"The Gentleman from McHenry, Representative Klemm."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield for question?"

"She indicates she will."

"Representative. I noticed that there is a Senate Amendment #3 that appropriated 15,000 to the Department for grants to Crime Stoppers Organizations. Perhaps you could tell me how they intend to distribute that money to Crime Stoppers around... organizations around the state?"

"I believe we took that out. Didn't we, Representative Leverenz?"

"Well I... I got a signal from the other side of the aisle that it's to be appropriated to one district. And I was wondering why, since many communities have Crime Stoppers Organizations, why do they... why would they, in fact, select one?"

"I thought that we took that out, Representative Klemm."

"I don't see it in our synopsis."

"He's asking about $15,000 for Crime Stoppers."

"Representative... Representative Leverenz, to answer Representative Klemm's question."

"That money is going to Senator Lechowicz's district specific for that program."

"Well, since there are Crime Stoppers Organizations in 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 many communities - I think I have three of them in my area, will the state give contributions to them for awards to various crime fighting activities, which I'm sure the state fully supports?"

"That's only going to that one district. If you want some, ask us."

"Thank you very much."

"The Gentleman from Winnebago, Representative Giorgi."

"Representative Leverenz. Representative Leverenz, do any of the Volunteer Crime Stoppers Association turn any of their authority over to the State Police in this Bill?"

"Representative Leverenz, to answer the question."

"That Bill is in Rules."

"How's that?"

"It's in the Rules Committee."

"That's a good place to keep it."

"There being no further discussion. The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1758 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 114 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and 2 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1760, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1760, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense with the Commissioner of Banks and Trust Companies. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes." 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

June 24, 1986 "Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all floor action to date, Senate Bill 1760 appropriates $7,908,980 to the Commission of Banks and Trust Companies for fiscal year '87'. All of this is from the Bank and Trust Company Fund. I would recommend 'do adopt'."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1760. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1760 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 107 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1761, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1761, a Bill for an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent expense for the Bureau of the Budget in the Executive Office of the Governor. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all floor action thus far, Senate Bill 1761 appropriates $2,531,400 in General Revenue Fund and $324,500 in various bond funds for the Bureau of the Budget for its fiscal year '87 ordinary and contingent expenses. I would recommend 'do adopt'." 167537 Speaker

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1761. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1761 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have 50  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 107 voting 'aye, 2 voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1761, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"1762."

"Excuse me, 1762."

"Senate Bill 1762, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to various state agencies. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all Amendments, Senate Bill 1762 appropriates $5,595,400 for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Capital Development Board. The entire amount is from General Revenue Fund. I would recommend 'do adopt'."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1762. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Harris."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Just a question to either of the Sponsor or, perhaps, of the Clerk. Why is this Bill carried on the Calendar as an Act making appropriations to various state agencies when it's for the Capital Development Board?"

"Representative Barnes. Representative Leverenz asks leave to answer the question, Representative Barnes. He has leave. Representative Leverenz."

"They amended the title in the Senate, and that's the way it came over. I've..."

"Those more senior to me always have the answers. Thank you." 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"Well we have good staff."

June 24, 1986 "The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1762 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 113 voting 'aye', 1 voting 'no', and 2 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1763, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1763, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Capital Development Board. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"I would like permission to bring Senate Bill 1763 back to Second for purposes of an Amendment."

"The Lady asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Does she have leave? Hearing no objections, the Lady has leave. Are there any Amendments filed, Mr. Clerk?"

"Floor Amendment #60, offered by Representative Barnes."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #60 Barnes - Leverenz - Mays - Homer, appropriates $44,500,000 from the Capital Development Fund to the Capitol Development Board for the construction of two prisons, $41,000,000 for the Mt. Sterling facility and three and a half million for planning in the improvement of the Canton facility. I would recommend 'do adopt'."

"The Lady has moved for the adoption of Amendment #60 to Senate Bill 1763. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 "Shall Amendment #60 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye'. all those opposed say "no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #61, offered by Representative Leverenz."

"Representative Leverenz."

"The Amendment would provide $5,000,000 for the renovation of Shedd Aquarium. I move for the adoption of Amendment #61."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #61 to Senate Bill 1763. And on that question, is there discussion? Hearing none, the question is, Shall Amendment #61 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #62, offered by Representative Pangle."

"Representative Pangle."

"Thank you. Madam Speaker. Amendment #62 would add $750,000 in Kankakee Community College for expansion of classes and also a gymnasium."

"The Gentleman is moved for the adoption of Amendment #62 to Senate Bill 1763. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, •Shall Amendment #63 be adopted... 62 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye, all those opposed say 'no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. Amendment #62 is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #63, offered by Representative Leverenz and Richmond."

"Representative Leverenz." 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"Thank you, this Amendment #63 would provide $15,000,000 for the Department of Energy and Natural Resources for the development of an innovated coal fired boiler system. I would move for the adoption of the Amendment."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #63 to Senate Bill 1763. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #63 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #64, offered by Representative Phelps."

"Representative Phelps."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #64 appropriates a sum of 50,000 to the Capital Development Fund for renovation of John MarshBank, Historical Preservation Site in Gallatin County."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #64 to Senate Bill 1763. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #64 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #65, offered by Representative Phelps."

"Representative Phelps."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #65 appropriates 75,000 to the Capital Development Fund for the renovation of the North Cairo Drainage District in Alexander County and waterpump preservation." 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #65 to Senate Bill 1763. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, "Shall Amendment #65 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye", all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #66, offered by Representative Leverenz and Richmond."

"Representative Leverenz."

"Yes, 66 is a corrective pact for a previous Amendment. I would now move to table 63 with a drafting error in it."

"The Gentleman moves to table Amendment #63. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, "Shall Amendment #63 be tabled?" All those in favor say aye, all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. Amendment #63 is tabled. Are there any... now Amendment #66."

"No. Right, this is the $15,000,000 to the Department of Energy and Natural Resources for the coal-fired boiler system, I presented previously. I move for the adoption of Amendment #66."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #66 to Senate Bill 1763. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, "Shall Amendment #66 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #67, offered by Representative Mulcahey."

"Representative Mulcahey."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #67 appropriates 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 1.8 million dollars for the purpose of renovation for the old Kraft Cheese Factorý in Stockton for the use of community action tourist, and a tourist center. I move for the adoption of Amendment #67."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #67 to Senate Bill 1763. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, *Shall Amendment #267 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say "no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Barnes now asks leave for immediate consideration of Senate Bill 1763 as adopted. Is there any discussion?"

"As amended."

"As amended, excuse me. The Lady has leave. Read the Bill on Third. Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1763, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Capital Development Board. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Madam Speaker, I think what I'm going to do, I am going to read the figures before we add it all... the Amendments on the floor. Incorporating all the floor action prior to today, Senate Bill 1763 appropriated $248,112,827 for new Capital project. That amount included $16,078,575 from General Revenue Fund and 232,034,252 from other funds and the present floor action added well over $100,000,000 in projects. I would recommend 'do adopt'."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1763. And on that question, the Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert." 56  133rd Legislative Day Hastert: STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 "Yes, madam, I just have one question on this. I see in one of these Amendments, there's an appropriation for $48,000,000 for a domed stadium at Governor's State University. What is the name of that stadium going to be, have we named that?"

"Excuse."

"That was withdrawn."

"Alright, I just wanted to know that. Thank you."

"There being no further discussion. The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1763 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed voted 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there 101 voting 'aye', 4 voting 'no', and 6 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received... Representative Brookins. Representative Brookins votes 'aye'. On this question there are 102 voting 'aye', 4 voting 'no', and 6 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1764, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1764, a Bill For an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Illinois Criminal Justice Information Authority. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I would like permission to return this Bill for the purposes of an Amendment to Second."

"The Lady asks leave to return Senate Bill 1764 to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Does she have leave? Hearing no objections, the Lady has leave. Are there any Amendments filed, Mr. 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 Clerk? There are no Amendments filed, Representative Barnes. Representative Leverenz, on the question."

"While this Bill is on Second Reading, I now move to table Amendment #5 which was a restoration of $7,800 to take that off."

"Representative Leverenz moves to table Amendment #5 to Senate Bill 1764. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #5 be tabled?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. Amendment #5 is tabled. Are there any further Motions?"

"No further Motions."

"The Lady ask leave now for the immediate consideration of Senate Bill 1764."

"Third Reading."

"The Bill moves to Third Reading. Does the Lady have leave for immediate consideration? Hearing no objection, the Lady has leave. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1764, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Illinois Criminal Justice Information Authority. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all past and present floor action, Senate Bill 1764 appropriates approximately $12,461,700 to the Illinois Criminal Justice Authority for its fiscal year '87 ordinary and contingent expenses. This amount includes approximately $3,948,000 in General Revenue Funds, and $869,000 in other state funds, and $7,636,500 in federal funds. I would move 'do adopt'."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 Bill 1764. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, Shall Senate Bill 1764 pass? All those in favor vote 'aye", all those opposed vote "no". Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 114 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and none voting present'. Representative Younge votes 'aye". Representative Turner votes 'aye. There are 116 voting 'aye", none voting "no", and none voting "present". This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1765, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1765, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Court of Claims. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all floor actions, Senate Bill 1765 appropriates $6,998,400 to the Court of Claims for its fiscal year 87 ordinary and contingent expenses. This amount includes $6,798,400 General Revenue Fund and $200,000 from other funds. I would recommend do adopt...

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1765. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is. *Shall Senate Bill 1765 pass?' All those in favor vote aye", all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 111 voting 'aye', 5 voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present'。 This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1766, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill." 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986

"Senate Bill 1766, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Environmental Protection Trust Fund Commission. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all floor actions thus far, Senate Bill 1766 appropriates $1,034,700 to the Environmental Protection Trust Fund Commission. This amount includes no General Revenue Fund and $1,034,700 from other funds. I would recommend 'do adopt'."

"The Lady moves for the passage of Senate Bill 1766. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, *Shall Senate Bill 1766 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye", all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 111 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and none voting 'present". This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1770, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1770, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Pollution Control Board. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all floor actions thus far, Senate Bill 1770 appropriates $1,292,600 to the Pollution Control Board. This amount includes $1,292,600 from General Revenue Fund and no other funds. I would recommend 'do adopt'."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1770. And on that question, is there any discussion? 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1770 pass?" All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 110 voting 'aye', 3 voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1771, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

Senate Bill 1771, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Prairie State 2000 Authority. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all floor actions, Senate Bill 1771 appropriates all General Revenue Fund, $2,952,000 and reappropriates $669,222 to the Prairie State 2000 Authority for fiscal year '87. I would recommend 'do adopt'."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1771. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1771 pass?" All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 105 voting 'aye', 6 voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received... Representative Harris votes 'no'. There are 105 voting 'aye', 6 voting 'no'... 7 voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1773, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill." 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986

"Senate Bill 1773, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Property Tax Appeal Board. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all floor actions, Senate Bill 1773 appropriates $777,800 for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Property Tax Appeal Board. I would recommend 'do adopt*."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1773. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1773 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no.. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 112 voting 'aye", none voting 'no", and 1 voting "present". This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared... Representative Braun votes 'aye'. There are therefore... There are 113 voting 'aye", none voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1774, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1774, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Office of the Commissioner of Savings and Loan. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all floor actions, Senate Bill 1774 appropriates $1,483,100 to the Office of the Commissioner of Savings and Loan Association for fiscal year *87. All this amount is from the General Revenue Funds. I do 62  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 recommend "do adopt"."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1774. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, "Shall Senate Bill 1774 pass?" All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 114... 115 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page five on your Calendar appears Senate Bill 1775, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1775, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the State Employees' Retirement System. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all floor actions, Senate Bill 1775 appropriates $4,825,600 to the State Employees' Retirement System. This amount includes $2,610,100 General Revenue Funds and $2,215,500 from other funds. I recommend "do adopt"."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1775. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, "Shall Senate Bill 1775 be adopted... be passed?" All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 116 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 133rd Legislative Day Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1776, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1776, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the General Assembly Retirement System. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all floor actions, Senate Bill 1776 appropriates $2,281,200 to the General Assembly Retirement System. This amount includes $2,236,100 from General Revenue Fund and $45,100 from other funds. I recommend 'do adopt'."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1776. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1776 pass? All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 109 voting 'aye', 4 voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1777, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1777, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Judges' Retirement System. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As introduced in the House, this Bill appropriates $10,123,700 for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Judges' Retirement System. I recommend 'do adopt' on Senate Bill 1777." 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1777. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1777 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 117 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1778, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1778, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Local Governmental Law Enforcement Officers Training Board. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all floor actions, Senate Bill 1778 appropriates $7,292,800 to Local Governmental Law Enforcement Officer Training Board for its fiscal year '87 ordinary and contingent expenses. This amount is entirely from the Traffic and Criminal Conviction Search... Sir Charge Fund. I would recommend 'do adopt'."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1778. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1778 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. And on this question there are 117 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1808, Representative Leverenz. Clerk, read the Bill." 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986

"Senate Bill 1808, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Office of the State's Attorneys Appellate Prosecutor. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Leverenz."

"This time I ask the House to provide me leave to bring it back to Second Reading."

"The Gentleman asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Does he have leave? Hearing no objections, the Gentleman has leave. Representative... Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments filed?"

"Floor Amendment #5 offered by Representative Leverenz."

"Representative Leverenz."

"Amendment #5 would provide $7,000,000 or so much thereof as maybe necessary as appropriated to the Supreme Court for reimbursements for pretrial service agencies and related administrative costs as provided by law. I now move for the adoption of Amendment #5."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #5 to Senate Bill 1808. And on that question, the Gentleman from Kendall. Representative Hastert.

"Let me just clarify this. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative, this is a $7,000,000 appropriation for pretrial?"

"That's correct. We're using this as a vehicle, because the Supreme Court budgets are gone already, to add 7,000,000 to the Supreme Court for reimbursements for pretrial service agencies and related administrative costs as provided by law."

"So, what this does then, it does not necessarily put this money in this agency. How do we transfer that out?" 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986

"We're using the Bill as a vehicle. This gets appropriated direct to the Supreme Court by this Amendment."

"But is this Bill not the... Which Bill is this, Representative?"

"Well this is... Yeah, I think we amended the title at an earlier time. This goes to various agencies."

"So this is not... I thought this was this Bill was the State's Appellate Prosecutor's."

"It was, and that's when we changed the title in Committee. Unfortunately, you don't serve on that Committee. I'd rather have you in Appropriations I, but some other people would rather have you in Congress."

"Well, let me ask one other question. Does the State's Appellate Prosecutor's Agency still exist?"

"Oh, yes it does."

"And, are they be funded?"

"Of course it... Yes they are."

"But not in this Bill?"

"By their request which is also in this budget, that's correct."

"So this is a vehicle plus?"

"Well, it's half budget for them and half vehicle for the Supreme Court."

"It's kind of a truck. It carries a load, right?"

"Right now, it's a scooter with two wheels, may become a 18 wheeler by the time it's all done."

"Thank you."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #5 to Senate Bill 1808. And on that question, is there any further discussion? Hearing none, the question is, Shall the Amendment be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative June 24, 1986 is adopted. Leverenz now asks leave for immediate consideration of Senate Bill 1808 as amended. Representative Leverenz."

"Senate Bill 1808, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to various state agencies. the Bill."

Third Reading of Speaker Breslin: "The Gentleman has leave. Leverenz, on the Bill."

Representative Leverenz: "Thank you. For the two parts that are in the Bill now, the State's Attorneys Appellate Prosecutor, the total there 3,256,200 and the 7,000,000 that we just amended to it. I now ask for your 'aye' vote to pass the Bill."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1808. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1808 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Let the record show that Representative Breslin has a conflict of interest in the Office of the State's Attorneys Appellate Prosecutor, and for that reason is voting 'present', and only for that reason. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 109 voting 'aye', 5 voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1822, Representative Leverenz. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1822, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Court of Claims. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Leverenz." 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

June 24, 1986 "I now ask leave of the Body to take the Bill back to the Order of Second Reading for the purpose of two Amendments."

"The Gentleman asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Does he have leave? The Gentleman has leave. Are there any Amendments filed, Mr. Clerk?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Barnes."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 appropriates 13,730,000... $13,730.22 for dispute between the claimant and the Capital Development Board with respect to the Department of Agriculture Building, located at the Illinois State Fair grounds. I would recommend 'do adopt'."

"The Lady has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1822. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Leverenz."

"Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you. Amendment #3 provides for all awards that have been officially signed off by the Court of Claims Judges. It provides $3,340,464.60. I move for the adoption of Amendment #3."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 1822. And on that question, the Gentleman from McLean, Representative Ropp." 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"He will."

"Representative, can you tell me if in that particular Amendment there is a claim that goes to Brokaw Hospital?"

"Well, I'll tell you what, you come back here, you go through the 60 pages of Amendments. We have a few...what's the name of the hospital?"

"Brokaw."

"Brokaw. Do you know if the Judges have the proper number of signatures to signoff on it?"

"Yes."

"Then, I would believe that it would be in here, but..."

"Okay. Thank you."

"...Come on back."

"Is there any further discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted... Amendment #3 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Leverenz now asks leave for immediate consideration of Senate Bill 1822 as amended. Does he have leave? Hearing no objection, the Gentleman has leave. Read the Bill on Third. Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1822, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Court of Claims. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you. This Bill now would provide a grand total of... a combination of 3,041,530, 3,340,464, and the... and with Representative Barnes $13,000, I now ask for your 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 'aye vote to pass the Bill."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1822. And on that question. is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, Shall Senate Bill 1822 pass?* All those in favor vote aye', all those opposed vote 'no". Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 110 voting... Ill voting aye", 2 voting 'no', and 2 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1841, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1841, a Bill for an Act making reappropriations for permanent improvements. minor capital improvements, repairs and maintenance, and related purposes. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all Amendments thus far, Senate Bill 1841 still reappropriates $449,201,516 to the Capital Development Board to complete projects previously funded. I would recommend do adopt."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1841. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, Shall Senate Bill 1841 pass? All those in favor vote 'aye", all those opposed vote 'no. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 114 voting 'aye", none voting 'no", and none voting "present". This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Wyvetter Younge is recognized on a point of personal privilege. 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day Representative Younge." June 24, 1986

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. I have requested this point of personal privilege because last week I presented to this House Amendment #4 to Senate Bill 1931, an Amendment which would authorize an additional Associate Judge for the 20th Judicial Circuit of Illinois. Senate Bill 1931 passed out of this House last night without my Amendment being filed. This Amendment was not resubmitted because as a result of my meeting with John Baricevic on yesterday morning, I learned that the Supreme Court had... has approved an Associate Circuit Judge for our county, and that this would be sufficient at this time, and if any further Associate is needed, it would be requested next year. During the course of the debate on this question, Representative Flinn mentioned my husband's name. Representative Flinn later apologized for this, and I accepted his apology, but Representative Flinn also stated during the debate that he had called Mr. 'Baricevic', the State's Attorney, and had asked him if he had requested the additional Associate Judge, and that Mr. Baricevic said that he had not. I promised that I would prove to you that the State's Attorney, Mr. Baricevic, had made a request to me for the additional Associate Judge, and that having proved this to you, that I would ask Mr. Flinn to apologize to this Body for saying that he called Mr. Baricevic and that Mr. Baricevic had said that he did not request this. I have put on everybody's desk a manila folder which were distributed last night. In that folder are a series of letters from Mr. Baricevic, the State's Attorney, all the way back a year ago, starting the 22nd of August of 1985, in which Mr. Baricevic complained to me about the additional driving while under the influence of alcohol cases that he had in asking for additional 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 resources. On the 3rd of September of last year, I answered him indicating that I would give him a further detail answer, and I did that on the 23rd of October, stating my willingness to meet with him to try to work out this problem. You will notice in your folder that all of these letters are copied to the Patrick Fleming, the Chief Judge of the 20th Judicial Circuit, and also to the Jerry Costello, who is the Chairman of the Board. On the 20th of March, 1986, Mr. Baricevic wrote an additional letter to Jerry Costello, the County Chairman, asking for additional resources. This letter you will notice not only was sent to Mr. Jerry Costello, but a copy was sent to me and a copy was sent to Monroe Flinn... Representative Flinn. On the 11th of April, I filed a Bill asking for the additional resources of an Assistant Associate Judge and an assistant attorney and public defender and clerk. On the 19th of June of this year, Amendment #4 was filed requesting an additional associate judgeship for our county. Before that Amendment was presented, I called John Baricevic, the State's Attorney, to inform him of the Amendment and requested that he discuss the need for this Bill with the Sponsor, Mr. Cullerton. Mr Baricevic waited for about 15 minutes on a phone on this House floor but, Mr. Cullerton could not talk with him, because he had a series of other Bills to present. In your packet... in your folder is a letter from Mr. Baricevic dated the 20th of June, stating that my responses to his letters and telephone calls were appropriate due to the massive amount of work that he had in reference to driving while under the influence of alcohol cases; and then finally, on June 23, Mr. Baricevic's letter confirming that he had requested the legislation and that he had not talked with Representative Flinn on the 19th of June about this matter or at any other 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 time before the 19th of June. I think that these letters, these communications, if you look at those very carefully, you will see that they unequivocally prove that my version of the facts are a correct one and Mr. Baricevic has said if any one wishes to call him in reference to that he will be happy to talk with them further. And it's based on these facts that I believe we are entitled to an apology from Mr. Flinn. Thank you."

"Thank you, Representative Younge. Ladies and Gentlemen, the Clerk's Office is starting a list of all Bills on the Order of Concurrence in which you wish to nonconcur, and then we will go through those quickly so that you can get your Conference Committees started or send your Bills back to the Senate, whatever you wish. So, if you have a Bill on the Order of Concurrence which start on page seven on your Calendar that you wish to nonconcurr in, come up to the Clerk's well and give your Bill number to the Clerk. Do that immediately, please. On page five appears Senate Bills. Second Reading. We will take those Bills that are appropriation Bills only. The first Bill under that Order is Senate Bill 1562, Representative Homer. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1562, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for job training. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Representative Homer, do you wish us to move this Bill to Third Reading? No Motions. No Amendments. Third Reading. Senate Bill 1603, Representative Hastert. Clerk, read the Bill." 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986

"Senate Bill 1603, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the State Universities Civil Service System. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1604, Representative Hastert. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1604, a Bill for an Act making appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of certain retirement systems. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1628, Representative MadiganDaniels-Leverenz. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1628, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to various legislative support agencies. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. On page six on your Calendar appears Senate Bill 1734, Representative Leverenz. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1734, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Court of Claims. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed? Representative Leverenz, for what reason do you rise?" 75  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986

"Take that out of the record, please."

"Out of the record. Senate Bill 1738, Representative Hastert. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1738, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 were adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"A Motion to table Committee Amendment #5, offered by Representative Barnes."

"Representative Barnes, on a Motion to table Committee Amendment #5."

"I'm sorry, it's Representative Bowman."

"Excuse me. Representative Bowman, on a Motion to table Committee Amendment #5."

"Thank you. Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Committee Amendment #5 was one that we put on, we... but we need to put this in the proper location of the Bill. It was put in the wrong location by mistake. So, I'm going to table it at this time and reoffer the Amendment later on."

"The Gentleman moves to table Amendment #5 to Senate Bill 1738. And on that question. is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #5 be tabled?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. Amendment #5 is tabled. Are there any further Motions or Amendments?"

"A Motion to table Committee Amendment #6, offered by Representative Bowman."

"Representative Bowman."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the 76  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 House. This is a similar situation where we are tabling because the Amendment was... the language was not inserted in the right place in the Bill. We are going to move it with another Amendment, SO I will now move to table Amendment #6."

"The Gentleman moves to table Amendment #6 to Senate Bill 1738. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #6 be tabled?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted... The Amendment is tabled. Is there any further Motions or Amendments?"

"A Motion to table Amendment #7, by Representative Bowman."

"Representative Bowman."

"The same Motion, the same argument."

"The Gentleman has moved to table Amendment #7 to Senate Bill 1738. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #7 be tabled?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is tabled. Are there any further Motions?"

"No further Motions."

"Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #10, offered by Representative Bowman and Currie."

"Representative Bowman."

"Leave to withdraw Amendment #10."

"Withdraw #10. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #11, offered by Representative Bowman and Currie."

"Representative Bowman." 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"Leave to withdraw 11."

"Withdraw 311. Amendments?" June 24, 1986 Are there any further

"Floor Amendment #12, offered by Representative Bowman and Currie."

"Representative Bowman."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #12 is a technical Amendment to properly allocate funds in respective Sections of the Bill. There is no dollar change. I move for it's adoption."

"Representative Bowman moves for the adoption of Amendment #12 to Senate Bill 1738. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, Shall Amendment #12 be adopted?" All those in favor say *aye*, all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #13, offered by Representative Bowman and Currie."

"Representative Bowman."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a technical Amendment to transfer $100,000 for personal services and to specify the funds to be used for the maintenance of the fire department on the Anna Mental Health Facility grounds. There is no dollar change, and this corrects an error in an earlier Amendment which was adopted in Committee that we had to table because it was not in the right place in the Bill. I move for the adoption of this Amendment."

"Representative Bowman moves for the adoption of Amendment #13 to Senate Bill 1738. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, Amendment #13 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye. 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 all those opposed say 'no". In the opinion of the Chair, the "ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #14, offered by Representative Bowman and Currie."

"Representative Bowman."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Amendment reduces the contractual line items within all facilities to offset an additional $209,400 to reinstate the living skills program that was cut by the Senate. This Amendment was worked out with the Department, and I believe it is supportive by all parties. I move for its adoption."

"Representative Bowman moves for the adoption of Amendment #14 to Senate Bill 1738. And on that question, the Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert."

"Would he repeat that? I think the Sponsor, according to my notes, has these Amendments turned around. I think for the record we ought to repeat what we've said."

"Representative Bowman, would you repeat what Amendment #14 does?"

"Okay, Amendment #14 reinstates the... excuse me, reduces the contractual line items within all facilities to offset the additional $209,400 to reinstate the living skills program. There's... this Amendment read in conjunction with an Amendment which was adopted in Committee will result in no-net dollar change."

"Representative Hastert."

"Well, I think we need to discuss this a second again for the record. It's my understanding that Amendment #14 has to do with a fire department in Anna, Illinois."

"I... Madam Speaker?"

"Representative Bowman." 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

June 24, 1986 "Yes, I stand corrected, the Amendment 13 was the one that I just explained. Amendment 14 is the Anna Fire Department. Yes... so, that #14... it provides for the... it's also a transfer. There is no-net dollar change, and it provides for the Fire Department of the Mental Health grounds at Anna."

"Representative Bowman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #14. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none, the question is. *Shall Amendment #14 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Hastert now ask leave for immediate consideration of Senate Bill 173... excuse me, we'll just move this Bill to Third Reading and leave it there until we do all of them at one time. Senate Bill 1744, Representative Hastert. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1744, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Teachers' Retirement System. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Representative Hastert. Excuse me, are there any Motions filed or Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1751, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1751, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Corrections. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #2, 3, 4, and 6 were adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?" 80  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Amendment #7 was withdrawn in Committee. Floor Amendment #8, offered by Representative Flinn."

"Representative Flinn."

"Madam Speaker, Amendment #8 to Senate Bill 1751 is a reappropriation Bill for the Department of Corrections. And I would ask that it be adopted."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #8 to Senate Bill 1751. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, "Shall Amendment #8 be adopted?* All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no. In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #9, offered by Representative Barnes et al."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #9 to Senate Bill 1751 amends the Department of Corrections budget to restore the entire introduced funding request for Hill Correctional Center in Galesburg. I would recommend 'do adopt'."

"The Lady moves for the adoption of Amendment #9 to Senate Bill 1751. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"Could the Sponsor explain this again, I'm sorry?"

"Representative Barnes, could you repeat your explanation of what Amendment #9 does?"

"Yes, I will, Representative Leverenz. Floor Amendment #9 to Senate Bill 1751 amends the Department of Corrections budget to restore the entire introduced funding request for Hill Correctional Center in Galesburg." 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"How much money?" June 24, 1986

"Nine million, three hundred and twenty-five thousand, eight hundred dollars, Representative Leverenz."

"Well, the Democrats get to your battle stations, I think we got a bad Government Amendment here. I think I recommend a 'no' vote, and I'm going to vote 'no'."

"The Gentleman from Knox, Representative Hawkinson, on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise in support of this Amendment. This is the amount necessary to open the prison on time. Obviously, in the State of Illinois, we have a budding population problem as announced by the two new prison sites that have been announced in Canton, which support in Representative Homer's District. I supported prior to selection with a letter to the Governor and continue to support. This facility is about to be completed, and we need to get started with the hiring in July so it can opened in October and help alleviate the crowding problems that we're experiencing as evidence by the need for two more facilities. I would hope that this wouldn't become a partisan issue and become tied up in the politics of a gubernatorial election year and would ask you to consider the correctional system in the best interest of that system and please cast an 'aye' vote for this Amendment."

"The Gentleman from Adams, Representative Hays."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. To the Amendment. We had quite a discussion on the Amendment that was adopted by a narrow margin in Committee which deleted the funding for the operations of the Hill Correctional facility in Galesburg. The discussion went on for probably up to a half an hour while Members of your side of the aisle who are seeking to roundup people that 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 might be persuaded against there better judgment, to vote for the Amendment that deleted it in the first place. During the course of the discussions, the choices were very clear. Either you go ahead and fund the prison for its operations after you've funded it for its construction, and you keep... you get the criminals off the streets and out of the neighborhoods and in prison where they belong or you don't. Now this Amendment would restore the funding levels that the Department had requested initially in this budget for a planphase in of the facility at Galesburg. We believe that it is prudent and reasonable to go along with this request. It makes no sense whatever to have a facility sitting empty while we play politics with crime. So, I urge an 'aye vote for the Amendment."

"The Gentleman from Marion, Representative Friedrich."

"Madam Speaker, Members of the House, I live a long ways from Galesburg, but I happen to know that this money is needed for the start up at Galesburg. Some of the staff at Centralia Correctional Center have been going back and forth trying to get that institution off the ground. It's ready to go. The building is all complete. They're ready to go. The warden has been appointed, but they do need staff. They do need supplies and so on to get it going. It takes about three or four months from the time they start doing this until the time the prison is ready to operate. Additional beds are needed. You've got the building built. You've spent the money, and it would be foolish now to withhold these funds."

"The Gentleman from Lake, Representative Matijevich."

"Well, the 'cheery of the debate over there leads me to believe just what I have said in the Committee, and I 83  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 say again today that the prison situation is being used for political patronage. You know, the last big building surge that we had was when we had that, quote, 'crisis" and wasn't it funny that that too happened just before the last election, when the Governor was going around the State of Illinois. Almost like an auctioneer, reminded me of these old fashioned auctioneers, 'Here ye, who wants a prison, who wants a prison, and all you downstaters that want jobs real bad, tell me how much you want that prison because we've got X number of jobs for you hanging here, hanging here for you to grab? Let us know, come on get into this competition. We're going to the highest bidder." And really what he was saying, the highest bidder was whoever can produce the most votes for him. And I just sense... I was sitting here and you can tell by the furor of someone's debate how much it means to him, and I don't think we ought to use the prison systems for political patronage. I think it demeans the whole reason of why we have prisons and I would urge the Members of this side of the aisle to hold still because... and vote 'no" or 'present'... vote 'no' rather, on this Amendment. We can't have a 'present' vote. Vote 'no' so we can find out truly if it is a political issue as I sense it is."

"The Gentleman from Macon, Representative Tate."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This issue isn't a partisan issue. Essentially, what we're trying to do here is restore the funding of the... that the Department had requested for Galesburg. If we choose not to do so, we put this General Assembly on record as opposing additional construction for incarcerating prisoners and criminals in this state. If all... for those of you that have been here back in the early... late '70's, I'm sure you will recall what happened 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day when prison conditions and because... June 24, 1986 due to over crowdedness, we had the Pontiac riots. If you would like to repeat that situation again, if you would like to spend millions and millions of dollars responding to a crisis situation and be back in here in July or in August because of a long hot summer, then I think you probably should vote "no". But I think you also should give serious consideration to what is a very popular program, a program that is not certainly... is not one that was intended for any partisan games or any political advantages. The fact of the matter is, is we have more people committing crimes, we're putting more people in jail, we're passing tougher laws. And I think it's only consistent if we're going to continue to pass tough laws and put criminals behind bars, then we should provide the facilities to accommodate those people. I would respectfully, Madam Speaker, I would like to ask for a Roll Call on this Amendment, and in the event that it does not receive the requisite number of votes, I'd like to verify the negatives."

"The Gentleman from Fulton, Representative Homer, on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. I rise from this side of the aisle to support the Amendment, and I do so because I read the report that was submitted by the Department of Corrections a few months ago illustrating quite vividly how over crowded we are in the state's four maximum security prisons and our memory shouldn't be so short as to not be able to recall the years of 1978 and the summers when the rioting took place. And we lost at least three lives and hundreds others were hurt in the mayhem as a result of, the rioting in these maximum security facilities. Today we have a facility that's to be open in Galesburg that all of the physical work for the facility 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day completion will be done in September. June 24, 1986 But the Bill in the status it is, without the Amendment, would not allow that facility to be staffed until about three or four months later into January. During that three or four month period, we, the taxpayers of the State of Illinois will be financing the debt cost for that facility which will be sitting empty with all of those prisoners packed into the four maximum security facilities in the State of Illinois, and an empty new modern facility sitting there in Galesburg not able to put prisoners in because there is no staff in that facility to man that prison. Now, I think we all ought to put aside the political considerations here and consider the catastrophic possibilities that could occur at any time within our over crowded maximum security facilities and move in a responsible way to staff the new facility so that we can start moving prisoners into it to alleviate the population crunch and to avoid having the kind of problems we had in Pontiac back eight years ago. So, I would ask my colleagues on this side of the aisle to join in putting up a responsible green vote for this Bill."

"The Gentleman from Knox, Representative McMaster."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise in support of this Amendment. I think it is foolish as many people have said to build a facility and then not use it for a period of time when we could be making good use of it. As far as the statements by some Members over there that there is politics involved in the building of a prison, I doubt that. very much. I am quite sure that if we are going to build prisons to hold the people, that we make tougher laws to incarcerate them. Then, I think it is up to us to provide the space to put them in. Of course, it is, I suppose, impossible to choose one or two sites and not have 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 133rd Legislative Day disappointed people who have not gotten the sites. But you must remember that we have also lost other state institutions in the City of Galesburg, which is in my locality, and I think that when we are building a prison have it just about completed that it's time we go ahead and fully fund it. I urge a 'yes' vote and I urge my friends all over the floor here, and I have many of them, to support this Amendment."

"The Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative Flinn. Representative Flinn."

"I was busy talking, Madam Speaker, would you clear me up here?"

"Did you say you wish to move the previous question?"

"Yes, I did."

"Representative Flinn moves the previous question. The question is, "Shall the main question be put?" All those in favor say aye, all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the main question is put. Representative Barnes to close."

"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, while this prison is not in my district, I certainly believe in assisting Representative Hawkinson in his endeavor. We certainly have been helping Members on both sides of the aisle get the prisons where they are needed and I would recommend an 'aye vote."

"The question is, Shall Amendment #9 to Senate Bill 1751 be adopted?" All those in favor vote aye, all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. The Gentleman from McLean, Representative Ropp, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you. Madam Speaker. It's tragic that those who, on the other side, are claiming this to be a political issue 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 when it was very clear in Committee that it was strictly their party who was attempting to deal in politics rather than to deal in wise judgment. And I guess I could almost assure you that there will be equal number of Democrats or Republicans and not be based on a political persuasion as to who is going to be behind the bars. I would urge you to support this Amendment. It's a good Amendment. It is one that really needs addressing, and I urge your support."

"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 64 voting 'aye', 38 voting 'no', and 4 voting 'present'. Representative Leverenz."

"Let's try to verify it."

"Representative Leverenz asks for a Verification of the Affirmative Roll Call. Mr. Clerk, Poll the Affirmative."

"Poll the Affirmative. Barger. Barnes. Black. Breslin. Brunsvold. Capparelli. Churchill. Countryman. Cowlishaw. Cullerton. Daley. Daniels. Davis."

"Excuse me. Representative Leverenz, Representative Weaver asks leave to be verified. The Gentleman has leave. Representative Ryder also asks leave and Representative Countryman asks leave. The Gentlemen have leave. Proceed, Mr. Clerk."

"DeJaegher. DeLeo. Deuchler. Didrickson. Dunn. Ewing. Virginia Frederick. Dwight Friedrich. Goforth. Hallock. Harris. Hasara. Hastert. Hawkinson. Hensel. Hoffman. Homer. Johnson. Kirkland. Klemm. Koehler. Kubik. Laurino. Levin. Mays. McAuliffe. McMaster. Nash."

"Representative Nash asks leave to be verified, Representative Leverenz. The Gentleman has leave. Proceed, Mr. Clerk." 88  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"Olson. William Peterson. Slater. Parcells. June 24, 1986 Parke. Bernard Pedersen. Piel. Pullen. Regan. Ropp. Ryder. Stange. Stephens. Stern. Tate. Terzich. Tuerk. Vinson. Wait. Weaver. Williamson. Wojcik. And Zwick."

"Representative Mulcahey, for what reason do you rise? Representative Mulcahey."

"I think he wants to vote 'no', but he'll tell you."

"Representative Levin, for what reason do you rise? Excuse me, Representative Mulcahey."

"Madam Speaker, would you please record me as voting 'aye'?"

"Record Representative Mulcahey as voting 'aye'. Representative Levin."

"Please change my vote to 'no'."

"Change Levin to 'no'. Representative Steczo wishes to be recorded as voting 'no'. Do you have any questions of the Affirmative Roll, Representative Leverenz? Representative Berrios seeks recognition to vote 'aye'. Vote the Gentleman 'aye'. Representative Jack Davis, for what reason do you rise?"

"May I have leave to be verified, Madam Speaker?"

"Representative Davis asks leave to be verified. Does the Gentleman have leave, Representative Leverenz?"

"Yes."

"Yes he does."

"Cullerton."

"How was Representative Cullerton recorded?"

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

"Remove Representative Cullerton."

"DeLeo."

"Representative DeLeo. Is Representative DeLeo in the chamber? The Gentleman is in the chamber." 89  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986

"Williamson."

"Representative Williamson. Is the Lady in the chamber? She is."

"Breslin."

"Change Representative Breslin to present"."

"Thanks. McAuliffe."

"Representative McAuliffe is in his chair."

"DeJaegher."

"Representative DeJaegher is in his chair."

"Goforth."

"Representative Goforth is in the chamber."

"Right in front of me. Terzich."

"Representative Terzich is in his chair. Representative Saltsman, for what reason do you rise?"

"Change me to 'aye', please."

"Change Representative Saltsman from 'no' to 'aye'. Representative Cullerton has returned to the Chamber add him to the Roll Call voting 'no'. Representative Pangle. Change Representative Pangle... or vote Representative Pangle 'aye'. Representative Giglio changes his vote from 'no' to 'aye'. Representative Tate, why do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. In the event that the Gentleman's verification is successful, we'd like to Verify the Negatives."

"Yes, I know that, Sir. Do you have any further questions of the affirmative?"

"Seeing that the Leader of the downstate Caucus just went from 'no' to 'aye', I withdraw the verification."

"The Gentleman withdraws his verification. On this Amendment there are 66 voting 'aye', 39 voting 'no', and 5 voting 'present', and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?" 90  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986

"Floor Amendment #10, offered by Wyvetter Younge."

"Representative Younge."

"Table that Amendment."

"Withdraw #10. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #11, offered by Representative Shaw."

"Representative Shaw."

"Yes, thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #11 to Senate Bill 1751 appropriates $377,000, and I ask for its adoption."

"Have you moved for the passage of the Amendment, Sir?"

"I beg your pardon?"

"The question is, Shall Amendment #11 be adopted to Senate Bill 1751? And on that question, the Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays."

"Would the Gentleman yield for a question?"

"He will."

"What's in that effect of this Amendment?"

"I beg your pardon?"

"What does this Amendment do?"

"It restores 20 vacancies in the parole agents."

"Where do you get the money to restore those vacancies?"

"The various institutions."

"Like Dwight and Henard and Statesville."

"All of them."

"Are you taking money away from the prisons right now to fund these 20 parole agents?"

"No, I'm not, because those are vacant positions at present."

"Oh, so those positions are not intended to be filled, those are just useless positions that the Department puts 91  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 into their budget every year?"

"Well, I don't know what the intent of the Department is, I'm not the director, Representative Mays."

"Okay. To the Amendment. I rise in opposition to this Amendment. It simply takes down line items at some institutions in the Department of Corrections that, in my mind, should not be brought down to the tune of 377,000. The Gentleman would indicate that we need 20 parole agents He more than we need prison guards in those institutions. would indicate that because a prison guard may have left two weeks ago and the position isn't filled that it's not needed. I don't believe that to be the case. I don't think any of us do. And I would urge opposition."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz, on the Amendment."

"I rise in support of the Amendment for the following reasons there are over 1,080 vacant positions in this agency, a 1,080. We were just simply restoring 20 of those vacancies to be parole agents, because if we put all of the parole agents in the budget that it was needed to do the job which the Department clearly admits had has problems doing. we would have made it 50 instead of 20, but 20 seemed to be a more reasonable number. I solicit your 'aye vote for the Amendment."

"Representative Shaw to close."

"The... with the... why this is needed, I think Chairman Leverenz just explained it, is that you have 113 parole agents... no 113 throughout the State of Illinois and you have 10,000 parolees SO, 113 people is supposed to supervise 113... 10,000 parolees and that's just impossible. And we did talk to the Director about it in Committee the other day, and I think you can see the need where that you need 20 additional, if not 50, and I ask you 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day for your 'aye' vote."

Speaker Breslin: "The question is, Shall June 24, 1986 Amendment #11 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no". Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 57 voting 'aye", 45 voting 'no", and none voting "present". And the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

Speaker McPike: Chair." "Third Reading.

Representative Braunin the Braun: "Representative McPike in the Chair for purposes of an announcement." "Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, if I could have your attention for just a minute. I believe last year Representative Dunn was at the podium and introduced the winner of 1985 Miss Illinois National Teenager, Rhonda Cullison of Decatur, who went on to win the United States Title for National Teenager, and she is back this year and would like to address the Body, and then, we would like to introduce the 1986 Miss Illinois National Teenager. this time if you could give your attention to the winner from last year, Rhonda Cullison."

At Rhonda Cullison: "Thank you. A year ago I stood here and as I spoke, I told you I would go to Nationals and do the best I could for our State of Illinois. Well, they crowned me Miss National Teenager, and I'd just like to say thanks to you for all your support. I'm very proud to represent such a wonderful state. I've had the opportunity to travel all acrosS the United States, including Porto Rico. and I've enjoyed it and learned so much. Thanks to that was made possible. Thank you." you,

"We have a Resolution congratulating the 1986 winner that 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 we are not going to read at this time. We are just going to congratulate her and ask that Miss Kemberlynn Thorpe, who has her parents with her today - they are from East Alton and she is the 1986 winner - we would like to congratulate her and ask her to say a few words. Kemberlynn Thorpe."

"Good afternoon, fellow Illinoisians. A special hello to those of you who are mothers or fathers for parents, like Legislators, play an important role in shaping the future of our fair state. My name is Kemberlynn Thorpe, and I'm honored to speak to you today as Miss Illinois National Teenager. It will be my pleasure to represent our state, of verdant prairies and gently rolling rivers in the National competition this August in Orlando, Florida. This honor is a very important milestone for me as I am a product of small town grass roots Illinois. My home town is East Alton. East Alton, by the way, is in District 43. And I will be a Senior this Fall at Roxana Senior High School. As a student, I have learned that any tasks worth doing is worth doing well. I strive to motto this principle for this is what growing up in southern Illinois is all about. My teenage years in Roxana have been the greatest. We, in the heart of America, put a lot of heart into what we do. Illinois is a great place to live. As a young person, it has provided me the best and I want to share the good word with others. For me going from East Alton to the Nationals is like taking a giant, enormous step, but I will do my best. I want only to be myself, and I am sure that that will be good, because I have had the privilege to mature into a young adult in Illinois. Our high school slogan goes, 'We're number 1', and I hope to live up to this at the Miss National Teenager Pageant. My bags are packed with the necessities for this 94  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 competition, heart, high principles and humility. Being chosen Miss Illinois National Teenager was my first milestone and I thank my parents, teachers and peers for their encouragement. Going to Nationals is my second milestone and speaking to you today is my third. I wish every teenager in the world was as happy and as fortunate as I. The good Lord has filled my life with sunshine and rainbows and to Him I will eternally give my praise and dedicate my service. Thank you, and I speak from my heart. I would also like to thank Representative McPike."

"Well, good luck to you Kemberlynn. And Senator Vadalabene said that he'd like to take these two ladies to dinner tonight and he'd be glad to pick up the tab of anybody that wants to join them at Baurs. Thanks a lot, Sam."

"On page six of the Calendar, on the Order of Senate Bills, Second Reading, appears Senate Bill 1757. Representative Barnes."

"Madam Speaker, we did not finish the Department of Corrections budget when we were interrupted for the Miss Teenager presentation."

"Representative Barnes, I've been informed by the Clerk that you are in error, the Bill was moved to the Order of Third Reading."

"Then I would like to vote on Senate Bill 1757, the Department of Corrections Budget... 1751."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Bowman."

"Yes, I thought the arrangement was that we were going to hold all of the Bills on Third Reading take them as a group, so that we're treating this Bill the same as all of the other Bills."

"That is correct."

"Thank you." 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986

"Again, the Order of Second Reading, Appropriation Bills appears Senate Bill 1757, Representative Barnes, the Department of Revenue."

"Senate Bill 1757, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses for the Department of Revenue. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1 and 2 were adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"There are no Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"There are no Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1759, Representative Barnes. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Representative Hastert? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1769, Representative Barnes. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1769, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Arts Council. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"There are none."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1772, Representative Barnes. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1772, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Prisoner Review Board. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"There are no Motions filed."

"Any... The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"No, I was just referring to a previous Bill. Representative Barnes will handle it." 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"There are no Floor Amendments."

June 24, 1986 "Third Reading. Senate Bill 1779. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1779, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Public School Teachers' Pension and Retirement Fund. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"There are none."

Representative "Third Reading. Senate Bill 1825. Bowman, on 1825. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1825, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1. It's being offered by Representative Bowman and Currie."

"The Gentleman from Cook on Amendment #1."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 deletes the title and inserts in lieu thereof, 'an Act making appropriations to various state agencies'. I move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1825. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Bowman and Currie."

"The Gentleman from Cook on Amendment #2."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 House. Amendment #2 simply deletes all of Section 1 and inserts in lieu thereof, the following: "The sum of one dollar is appropriated to the Bureau of the Budget in preparing the budget of the State of Illinois'. This is simply a technical Amendment for purposes of turning this into a vehicle Bill. I move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment #2. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye", opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1826. Representative Leverenz? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1826, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Board of Higher Education. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"There are none."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1846. Representative Capparelli. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Out of the record. Sorry. Representative Leverenz. Senate Bill 1846. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1846, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Metropolitan Fair and Exposition Authority. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"There are none."

"Third Reading."

"Thank you."

"Senate Bill 2000. Representative Greiman. Is 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 the Gentleman in the chamber? Out of the record. Senate Bill 2061, Representative Mautino. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 2061, a Bill for an Act to create the Atomic Radiation and Dioxin Poisoning Victims Advisory Council. Second Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Mautino, could we take this out of the record for right now? Out of the record. Representative Hastert, Senate Bill 1759 was taken out of the record during your absence, if we can go to that Order of Business. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. 1759."

"Senate Bill 1759, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Veterans' Affairs. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1, 2, 3 and 4 were adopted in Committee."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"There are no Motions filed. Floor Amendment #5 is being offered by Representative Mautino."

"The Chair recognizes... for what reason does the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Shaw, rise? Representative Mautino on Amendment 5."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. Amendment #5 appropriates $21,500 for the completion of a full time officer... veterans' affairs offices for the counties of Bureau and Putnam where they are now... now operating on a part time basis. I move for its adoption."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert."

"Thank you. Madam Speaker. Excuse me. I think it might be appropriate if we tabled Amendment #1 first. I... would it be appropriate to table Amendment #1? It's a corrective Amendment." 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"Amendment #1, as I understand June 24, 1986 it. was drafted incorrectly. I'd be most happy to do that and go with Amendment #5 if it's your desire. Representative. Therefore, Madam Speaker, I'd like to move to table Amendment #1 adopted in Committee. I was the Sponsor of that Amendment."

"The Gentleman has moved to table Amendment #l to Senate Bill 1759. All in favor say *aye, opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it. The Amendment is tabled. Representative Mautino on Amendment 5."

"I would move for the adoption of Amendment 5 for the same rationale I just gave, 21,500, which was in Amendment #1 for the completion of the full time service officer for Bureau and Putnam County."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment 5 to Senate Bil1 1759. All in favor say aye, opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Fur Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment 6, being offered by Representative Bowman."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Bowman, on Amendment #6."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. There is a program known as the Veterans' Scholarship Program that has been financed through the Department of Veterans' Affairs in the past. However, substantive legislation has passed, transferring the responsibility for administering this Illinois State program to the Scholarship Commission. The eligibility requirements have not been changed in the slightest, but it is felt that the Scholarship Commission will be in a better position to... to handle this program because they handle 100  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 all of the other scholarship programs in the state, and this is really where the program belongs. Anyway, the substantive legislation has passed. We have adopted an Amendment to the Scholarship Commission's Bill providing funding for the program for the coming year. Therefore, the money that is in the Veterans' Affairs Department for this program is redundant and this Amendment eliminates those monies, but I assure the House that the program is alive and well in the Scholarship Commission's budget. I move for the adoption of this Amendment."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment 6. On that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Madam Chairman. I want to rise and say that I do not really support this concept. However, because there's substantive legislation that says we will do this, it's necessary to pass this Amendment to fund the scholarships for veterans, but we should be aware that we do take jobs away from veterans who administer it. The veterans who do go out and audit these situations have found that in some cases this money was not being used wisely, where it uncovered... condoned uses of these funds, and they've been... they've been responsible, but in the wisdom of this Body, we've decided to make that substantive change. The change has been made, so therefore, to continue the funding of scholarship..., of the veterans' scholarships, we need to make this Amendment."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Floor Amendment 6. I'm sorry, Representative Bowman to close."

"Yes, I did want to clarify one thing which I did not say in my opening remarks. And that is that historically, this particular line item has been underfunded. That is to say, there have always been more claims for veterans' 101  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 scholarships than monies appropriated, and the problem is that when the department runs out of money, they don't come to us and ask for a supplemental appropriation for these matters. They simply require the community colleges to eat the... the deficit. So, by putting it over in the Scholarship Commission, it is felt that there will be adequate funding for the program and that both the veterans will be well served and the community colleges will be well served. So, I encourage an 'aye' vote for this Amendment for the veterans and for the community colleges of our state."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of floor Amendment #6. On that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Will, Representative Van Duyne."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I don't know if everyone's paying enough attention to know this, but I've been notified - and I hope, correctly - that this now takes away from the veterans associations in Will County... I mean, not in Will County, but it will affect Will County also, but in the State of Illinois, and give this to the Scholarship Commission? Well, for eight years I sat on the... on the Appropriations Committee and watched the people from the Scholarship Commission come before the Appropriations. John can verify this. Mulcahey, Mautino, and Leverenz, all the rest of us and... and show our distinct dislike for some of the things that the Scholarship has done in reference to the individual Legislators' choices for scholarships and their... their... well, getting involved with the scholarships through the Scholarship Commission for people in our districts. Now, I don't read... you know, we don't have too many perks left, and as far as I'm concerned, if you take this away from the veterans... the veterans in the State of Illinois, you're 102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 really doing them a disservice. Whether it's done right or whether it's done wrong or whether the community colleges end up with a deficit, I really don't think that's got anything to do with what we're doing, here. And to really wipe them out in their entirety is doing the veterans of the State of Illinois a disservice, and I hate to do this. Woodsy, but I would ask for some 'no' votes. I'd like to see a lot of red votes on Amendment #8... or is it 67 And also, I would like to have a Roll Call vote on this Amendment, Madam Speaker."

"Is there further discussion? The Gentleman from Lake, Representative Matijevich."

"Well, I felt Representative Bowman closed, and I didn't want to see the debate closed with the remarks of Representative Van Duyne, because I think his criticism would have been accurate to the Scholarship Commission of years ago. but under the present leadership, that isn't true any more. I think the Executive Director has been very responsible and responsive, so I think this is a good Amendment, and I support it."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. In support of Amendment 6, the previous speaker, a couple ago, that mentioned my name in debate, he's completely off base today. This is the first time to talk, but the only thing he's right on is the choice of his suit today, so I would encourage your "aye vote for Amendment 6."

"Representative Bowman to close."

"Yes, I would just like to give everyone a news flash. The news flash is, we have passed the Bill and it's passed both chambers and this Amendment implements that Bill. We have already put this money in another budget. We don't 103  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 need it in this budget, so vote for this Amendment. Thank you."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment 6. All in favor say 'aye'... I'm sorry. I'm sorry. The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment 6. All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 102 voting 'aye', 5 voting 'no', none voting 'present'. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #7, offered by Representative Leverenz - Capparelli and McAuliffe."

"The Gentleman from Cook on Amendment #7."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #7 would provide funding for five positions that were cut from federal funds. I would ask for your 'aye vote for $113,000 add on to this budget."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment 6... 7. On that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert."

"Yes, would the Sponsor of this Amendment yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative, prior to this, the funding for this department was federal funding. Is that not correct?"

"That is correct."

"Is there a difference of where these dollars come from now?"

"That's... That's what I indicated, that federal funds were cut, and this restores five positions that were funded with those federal funds, and Representative Capparelli is also asking for your 'aye vote."

"Well, Representative Capparelli just gave me some... 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 some good wisdom... "

"Yes, Congressman, that is correct. We are for this."

"Thank you."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment 7. On that, is there any further discussion? There being none, the question is, Shall Amendment 7 be adopted? All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments."

"Floor Amendment #8, offered by Representative Curran."

"Representative Curran, the Gentleman from Sangamon, on Amendment 8."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #8 has the net effect of stopping the contracting out of the pharmacy of the Veterans' Home in Quincy. The pharmacy is... was contracted out, in effect, in Committee, based, I think, upon improper information presented to that Committee that that contracting out would save money. I've been watching this issue for about a week. I have looked very carefully at the suggestions of why we would be saving money. The allegation is that we would be saving money both in terms of personal contracts and also in terms of commodities. I think that neither one of those things is true. I think that this is a sweetheart deal that this entire General Assembly ought to be opposed to, and therefore, I think Amendment #8, which reverses the contracting out decision, is the appropriate decision to make, and I ask for... I move for the adoption of Amendment #8."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment 8. On that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert."

"Yes, I understand the Representative is very interested 105  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 in this project. Does he have a source of inside information that has allowed him to focus on this?"

"Representative Sangamon... Representative

Curran. Curran: "That might be a good name for me in this county."

"Representative Sangamon, yes."

"Representative, I have talked to several people. Some of them have been here on the House floor with me over the last week. They have reported back to me after being here that their jobs have been threatened over in Quincy. I do not know if that is true, but the names of those people will remain with me. I guarantee you, and I give you my word as a Gentleman on this House floor that I have examined this issue very carefully, that I do not believe that we save money, and that I do not believe our purposes will be served well by dragging those people's names out at this time."

"I think maybe we ought to talk about, you know, there are some allegations of a quote, unquote 'sweetheart deal'. I think one of the things that we do in this Appropriation Committee in the process of appropriations is to see what happens in the State of Illinois, how we spend our money in the State of Illinois and, in fact, how we best can spend our money in the State of Illinois. Several years... a year ago. there was a audit commission... Auditor General's report. One of the things that was in the Auditor's report was that, 'The Veterans' Home in Quincy could do a better job, quote, unquote, with what it's doing in its pharmacy. Their response - and as you know, the process in this General Assembly, when you go before the Auditor General and there's a report giving up, they... the agency needs to give a response. Their response to the audit commission was that they planned to contract out. 106  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 That was their response. Okay? Now... and no comment was given. Alright, when, in fact, this is carried out according to what their response was, we are now in a situation where we can save $148,400. Alright? The cost for contracting out would be $84,000 which brings in a net saving of $47,000. Now, if you want to call that a sweetheart deal, maybe that's a sweetheart deal, but it looks like we're saving money for the State of Illinois as part of the process. That's what the appropriation process is all about. That's why that was done in this Committee. and I take personal offense at somebody trying to stage a situation that may be of personal benefit or may not be of personal benefit that this was a sweetheart deal for anybody."

"Is there further discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative Stephens."

"Will the Gentleman yield for a question?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative Curran, excuse me, but I was distracted when you introduced the Amendment. Would you just briefly tell me what the Amendment does, again?"

"The Amendment, Representative Stephens, eliminates the contracting out provision which was passed in the Appropriation Committee. I believe it was passed on the basis of incorrect information."

"Okay, thank you. The... Madam Speaker, to the Amendment. I... I saw this contract the first time. It was explained to me by a labor representative from the area, and they had some questions as to the cost of drugs, and it was presented to me in this manner, that one of the reasons that the contract had a problem was that we were going to reimburse at the average wholesale price minus 10 107  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 percent for brand names and minus five percent for generics. And as I reviewed that portion of the contract, I agreed with this labor representative that, indeed, that would be a costly clause to any pharmaceutical service contract, and gave tentative agreement that I would support an Amendment to strike the legitimacy of this contract. However, on further examination, I contacted the medical supervisor of the facility, and we discussed that contract, and I saw a new signed contract that was not the one that was first presented to me. And as a pharmacist, obviously, I'm very interested in this. As a Legislator, though, I'm more concerned that we save tax dollars. Well, the truth about the contract is this: The state was reimbursing in 1985 at the state bid price, which is usually a very low price, but because of the free enterprise system, it seems that the winner of this contract was able to go out and because of his own initiative, find prices that were, indeed, cheaper than the state contract bid prices. Now, when we can give an individual on a competitive bid process - and there were, I believe, three bidders in this... for this contract - we can give them the incentive to make a profit and, at the same time, know that they have to live in the real world and bid against those other competitors, then, indeed, what we wind up doing is saving the state money to the tune of, I understand, $148,000. This is not a bad contract. The process of the bidding procedure is not bad. What is bad is to let a state agency with state employees go unchecked and not respond to the audit procedure that took place in 1984 and proved, in my estimation without... beyond a shadow of a doubt that we were wasting money at that facility, that the controls were not tight enough and that... and for goodness sakes, at any facility where drugs and pharmacists are Involved, we have 108  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 to be especially cognizant of the fact that we need tight controls, not only for the money, but for the drugs. Now, I contend that pharmacists in this state represent a more honorable profession, and the medical profession that controls the bidding procedures is controlled by the environment of existing in a competitive system. So, I think that we should stand in opposition to this Amendment and let the bidding procedures continue that will help save this state dollars. Thank you."

"Is there further discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much. Madam Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield to a question? Like Representative Hastert, I'm very concerned when you raise the specter of a sweetheart deal. I don't believe that that's an appropriate thing to raise unless you're willing to back it up. You've brought a pale over the entire Veterans' Home at Quincy by so doing, and I think that I should give you an opportunity to further clarify this sweetheart deal for the benefit of all the Members of this chamber."

"Representative, the phrase 'sweetheart deal' has... means a lot of things to a lot of people. Let me tell you what it means to me. It means to me that there is, over in Quincy, a private contractor who has, in the eleventh hour, shown us some different, unsubstantiated numbers - numbers that, prior to the eleventh hour, were not in the... were not in the figures. It means to me that that private contractor, trying to get the state's business on something very lucrative like pharmaceuticals, has left out some of the major, most costly pharmaceuticals, even in their eleventh hour attempt to get the business. It means to me that when somebody tells me that the audit commission - let me have your attention - the audit commission has gone 109  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 along with the subject of contracting out, and when I read the entire audit commission's transcript and I find not one word about contracting out the pharmacy over in Quincy, not one word, not one word from the Department of Veterans' Affairs about contracting it, and yet, twice on this floor, the audit commission has been brought in in conversation to sort of sanctify this contracting out procesS. Nothing could be further from the truth the truth, nothing. The audit commission did not say that, even though I was told on this floor that the audit commission did say that. The Auditor General did not suggest contracting that..."

"Madam Speaker... "

"... Even though I was told on this floor the Auditor General suggested contracting out. That's what I mean by a "sweetheart deal.."

"Well, let's get the press out here so we can get all the cameras rolling, Mr... "

"Representative Mays, I believe the Gentleman was recognized to close."

"No, he was not. He was recognized in response to what he alleges is a sweetheart deal. For the purposes of this debate, let everybody on this House floor know that the bid was awarded in open competitive bidding. It went out state-wide and a local firm did get the bid, but there should be no aspersions cast as to the validity of the bid. It was an open competitive bid. So, a sweetheart deal, whatever he likes to define it as, is not appropriate, and I think the man should be chastised for using that kind of a term in the... and he should apologize to the people whom he intended it. Now, finally, let me... let me simply say that when he came to me with this alleged problem, I asked him to put up. If he has a way of showing that it will save costs, let's see it. I'll go along with it. 110  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 Representative Stephens came to me with the same idea. I said, fine, if it's going to save costs, if it's going to... you know... or if contracting out is going to cost more, we'll reverse it. I'll go with this Amendment. I'll be glad to have it."

"I think... "

"The fact of the matter is, the sheet of paper that he gave us alleging the cost and the bids and all this kind of stuff for 40 selected drugs came out, according to his figures. at $85,000 over what we could get them state-wide. Well, that raised my curiosity, so I figured I'd just verify whether those figures are indeed true. They were not. They were four times exaggerated. From $85,000 savings, those 40 selected drugs would save 21,000. You take another 20 selected drugs, and you can save 45,000. There is no doubt in anyone's mind that administration of the contract will save the state $47,600 alone. Now, we came in from the Veterans' Home for a supplemental in 1986 to the... to the Veterans' Affairs budget for drugs and pharmaceuticals due to a staph infection. We have cut back the request for appropriation in this amount. We feel that the savings that we will realize from the administration cut realized in this contract we can use to offset the increase in the drugs used at the home. Finally, I would just like each and every one of you to know that you have voted on about eight to ten billion dollars worth of Bills today. I haven't seen one Amendment where you could cut costs and really do a good job and call it good government. This Amendment is not in good government. There is... I've given the Sponsor numerous occasions to come forth with whatever he has, and his staff hasn't shared it with us, while we've shared everything we've got with him. I would like a Roll Call on this vote. This is going to be 111  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 one Amendment where you can really show that you're for good government, efficient government, and that you care about the veterans at the home."

"Is there further discussion? There being none, the Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Sangamon to close."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. We have heard in this discussion, the figures *$47,000 savings tossed around, and I started out earlier by saying something that I have never said. I have never said on this floor that I give you my word as a Gentleman. I never thought it was necessary, but I knew in this case it was going to be necessary for me to say that I give you my word as a Gentleman on this floor, that I have examined this issue carefully, and that I believe that there is no savings. In fact, I believe that there is a loss in contracting out the pharmaceutical services at the Veterans' Home in Quincy. But, in addition, sometimes we get a little bit heated. The previous speaker has suggested that somehow I be chastised. That allegation has never made... been made against me before on this floor. It very seldom gets made in private. It better never get made again. On this floor, one of the previous speakers - I will let you guess which one - told me that the audit commission had okayed this contracting out. That caused me to go and get the audit commission's transcripts. There were at least two of us on this floor who had that audit commission transcipt. There were at least two of us on this floor who know now, darned good and well, that the audit commission did not say that. We both looked at it, we both had a copy, and we're both aware that the audit commission didn't say that. But finally, in 1985 the latest assessment done by the department... by the veterans... by the Veterans' Administration on the Veterans' Home in Quincy says that 112  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 the pharmacy operation provides timely, accurate and efficient drug distribution services, and nursing is supportive and compliments pharmacy services very well. The latest possible report on that pharmacy, if you're looking about saving money, if you're not looking about trying to have some scapegoat, fire some state employees, violate the spirit of the AFSCME contract for the Veterans' Home. If you're looking to save money, you'll support Amendment #8. And I move for a favorable Roll Call."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment 8 to Senate Bill 1759. All in favor vote 'aye", opposed vote 'no". The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 65 voting 'aye', 47 voting "no". For what reason does the Gentleman from Macon, Representative Tate, rise?"

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. We'd like to verify the affirmative on this."

"The Gentleman has requested a verification of the affirmative vote. Representative Rea requests leave to be verified. Representative Mulcahey requests leave to be verified. Representative Friedrich, for what reason do you rise?"

"I'd like to be recorded as 'no', please."

"I'm sorry, Sir. I didn't hear you. Representative Friedrich asks to be voted "no". The Gentleman has requested a verification of the affirmative vote. I would like to announce in the meantime, as we prepare for the verification, that there is a list at the Clerk's well for nonconcurrences. If you want to have a Bill that... under your sponsorship called for nonconcurrence, please fill out the appropriate form at the Clerk's well. Representative Tate... Mr. Clerk, proceed 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day with the verification." June 24, 1986

"Poll of the Affirmative. Alexander. Berrios. Black. Bowman. Braun. Breslin. Brookins. Brunsvold. Bullock. Capparelli. Christensen. Curran. Currie. Daley. DeJaegher. DeLeo. Dunn. Farley. Flinn. Flowers. Giglio. Giorgi. Greiman. Hannig. Hartke. Hasara. Homer. Huff. Keane. Krska. Kulas. Laurino. LeFlore. Leverenz. Levin. Martinez. Matijevich. Mautino. McGann. McNamara. Mulcahey. Nash. O'Connell. Panayotovich."

"Excuse me, Mr. Clerk. Representative Kulas requests leave to be verified. Are there any other requests for verification? Yes, Representative Van Duyne requests leave to be voted 'aye'. Representative Van Duyne votes 'aye'. Representative Kulas asks leave to be verified. Any further requests? Representative Dunn requests leave to be verified. Any further requests? Let's get them over with now. Any further requests for verification? None further. Proceed, Mr. Clerk."

"Pangle. Phelps. Preston. Rea. Rice. Richmond. Ronan. Saltsman. Satterthwaite. Shaw. Steczo. Stern. Sutker. Terzich. Turner. Van Duyne. Washington. White. Wolf. Anthony Young. Wyvetter Younge. And Mr. Speaker."

"Any questions of the affirmative vote, Representative Tate?"

"Madam Speaker, I have granted leave to Representative Kulas, Van Duyne and Representative Dunn. I also granted leave to a couple of other people, and I can't remember who they are. Mulcahey and Rea. Is that the only five that we have granted leave to?"

"Did you mention Representative Dunn? Dunn, Kulas, Rea, Mulcahey."

"Okay. I think I've got five down." 114  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986

"That's correct."

"Alright, thank you. We'll start with Representative Alexander."

"The Lady is in her Chair."

"Representative Berrios."

"Representative Berrios. Representative Joe Berrios. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Is the Gentleman in the chamber? He appears not to be. Remove his vote."

"Representative Bowman."

"Who? Representative Bowman. The Gentleman is in his chair. Representative Greiman requests leave to be verified. Representative McPike votes 'aye'. Representative Wyvetter Younge requests leave to be verified. Representative O'Connell requests leave to be verified."

"My list is getting longer, here. I think I... Okay. Representative Braun is not in her seat, but that counts up there, doesn't it? Okay. Representative Brookins."

"The Gentleman is in his chair."

"Representative Brunsvold."

"Representative... The Gentleman is in his chair. For what reason does the Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black, seek recognition? Representative Black changes his vote from 'aye' to 'no'. Further questions of the affirmative vote, Representative Tate?"

"Representative Capparelli."

"Representative Capparelli. The Gentleman is in his chair."

"Representative Christensen."

"Representative Ray Christensen. The Gentleman is in his chair."

"Representative Currie." 115  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986

"The Lady is in her chair, Representative Tate."

"I don't have a very good eyesight today. Representative DeJaegher."

"Representative DeJaegher. The Gentleman is in his chair."

"Representative DeLeo."

"Representative DeLeo. Representative DeLeo. The Gentleman is in the chamber."

"Representative Farley."

"Representative Farley. The Gentleman is in his chair. Representative Washington requests leave to be verified. In a minute, Representative Tate, we will have done everybody on the Democrat side of the aisle."

"Well, at this point, according to my records, I have granted leave to Washington, O'Connell, Kulas, Van Duyne, Dunn, Mulcahey, Rea, Greiman and Youngle). Is that correct?"

"If you mention McPike, yes."

"Representative McPike, too?"

"Yes."

"Okay. Representative Flowers."

"The Lady is in her chair."

"Representative Giorgi."

"The Gentleman is in the chamber."

"Zeke. There's Zeke. Representative Huff."

"Representative Huff. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? He appears not to be. Remove his vote."

"Representative Hartke."

"Representative Hartke. Representative Hartke. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Yes, I'm sorry. He's in his chair."

"I have trouble seeing like that, too."

"Representative Tate, we have a lot of Bills to 116  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 cover this evening. Now, if you have any further questions of the affirmative vote, please... "

"Madam Speaker, this a very, very serious Roll Call. This Roll Chas obviously drawn a great deal of debate, and our side of the aisle is a little concerned about it, and I'd like to proceed with the verification."

"Representative Brookins requests leave to be verified."

"Now, I've tried to be accommodating. I'm going to accommodate you, too."

"Representative Matijevich, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"I think in 20 years, I've only once made the point of order that someone is dilatory, but I think the time has come again. I think this whole process is demeaned. You know, there are different ways to what... to go slow, as I think many of us have to do sometimes, and the rules protect the Minority, but I think that this is one of those obvious cases that are dilatory, and I make that point of order to the Chair."

"Representative Tate, have you any further questions of the affirmative?"

"Yes, I do."

"Please proceed."

"What makes this job very difficult... "

"Representative Tate, please proceed with the verification."

"Alright. Representative Bullock."

"Representative Bullock. The Gentleman is right there in the door."

"Where? I didn't see."

"Representative Bullock, would you please come inside of the chamber and... " 117  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"Alright, thank Terzich." you. Alright, good. June 24, 1986

Representative Speaker Braun: "Representative Terzich. The Gentleman is in his chair. He's been verified once." Tate "Okay. No, I haven't verified him before. Representative Preston."

"Sorry, what did you say? Representative who?"

"Preston."

"Preston. Preston. to be. Representative Preston. Representative Is the Gentleman in the chamber? He appears not Remove his vote. Representative Berrios has returned to the chamber. Return Representative Berrios to the Roll Call as voting 'aye*." "Well, Madam Speaker, I will let this verification go, but Tate:: to the individuals that thought this request was dilatory, I did allow 12 Members to be verified, and it made my job a little bit more difficult. Thank you."

"On this Amendment, there are 64 voting 'aye", 49 voting 'no". Amendments?"

"Floor The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment #9, offered by Representative Madigan O'Connell et al."

"Representative O'Connell on Amendment #9. Representative O'Connell. For what reason does the Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert, rise?"

"Yes, thank you. Madam Speaker. I think the nature of this Amendment, we might want to say all Members would want to be, at least from this side of the aisle, joined as Cosponsors."

"We'd like to. I'd get the Sponsor of the Amendment to present it first, Representative Hastert. Representative Hartke. The Lady from Cook, Representative Currie. 118  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

June 24, 1986 "May I have leave, Madam Speaker, to present Amendment #9 to Senate Bill 1759?"

"The Lady from Cook will present Amendment #9. Proceed, Representative Currie."

"The Amendment appropriates $500,000 to the Department of Veterans Affairs for a grant to the Illinois Viet Nam Veterans Memorial... for the construction of a memorial at Oak Ridge Cemetery here in Springfield. I'd be happy to answer questions, and I'd appreciate your support." is,

"The Lady has moved... Amendment #9. Is there further discussion? There being none, the question 'Shall Amendment 9 be adopted?" All in favor say 'aye", opposed say 'nay". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes" have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. The Gentleman From Kendall, Representative Hastert."

"I know that my light must not show up there very well, but I did have my button on."

"It does."

"And I did have a request that at the proper time, other Speaker Members have a chance to be added on as Cosponsors of that Amendment." Braun: #You made that request before Representative Currie presented the Bill... the Amendment."

"Well, then you said at the appropriate time." Speaker Braun: chastised. Hold on. all Members of the I did, Representative Hastert. Properly The Gentleman requests leave to have House added as Cosponsors of the Amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. The appropriate change in sponsorship will be made... or addition to sponsorship will be made. Returning to the Order of Senate Bills, Appropriations on page five of the 119  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 Calendar. All of these Bills have been moved to the Order of Third Reading. We will now have consideration of the legislation on the Order of Third Reading for final passage. The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Bowman."

"Just an inquiry of the Chair. What happened to Veterans Affairs? Did we move that to Third?"

"Yes, we did."

"We did. Thank you."

"On the Order of... page five appears Senate Bill 1562. Representative Homer on Senate Bill 1562."

"Senate Bill 1562, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for job training. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Fulton, Representative Homer, on Senate Bill 1562."

"Do I have leave for immediate consideration? It's been... "

"Representative Homer, as to this Bill and others on this Order of Business, they've been read a third time. There's no reason that leave be granted for consideration of these Bills on the Order of Third Reading at this time. Proceed. Representative Bowman."

"Madam Speaker, each of these Bills or many of these Bills were amended today, and I believe even if they've been read a third time, if they have been amended, we need to have leave."

"Representative Bowman, the Parliamentarian advises that the... the rule requiring leave or requiring special consideration only applies when the Bill has been brought back to the Order of Second Reading and then moved to Third for... on the same day or at the same time. These Bills moved from the Order of Second Reading to Third Reading earlier in this day, and we will now proceed with 120  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 consideration of them on the Order of Third Reading without any special dispensation from the Body necessary. Representative Hastert."

"I wasn't asking for any special dispensations, here, but a point of order. I do believe that the Veterans' Affairs Bill was on Third Reading and was brought back to Second."

"We are not on the Order... on the Veterans' Affairs Bill right now, Representative Hastert, and the Clerk will examine that issue. Representative Homer on Senate Bill 1562."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. Senate Bill 1562 is an appropriation request of four thousand dollars (sic four million dollars) to General Revenue... from General Revenue Fund, two million dollars of which would go to Prairie State 2000 Authority for the Employer Training Assistance Program, and two million dollars also to the State Board of Education for the High Impact Training Service Program or HITS. The purpose of the request is to allow existing Illinois Corporations to retrain their existing work force in order to enable those employees to obtain the skills that will be necessary to adapt to the new technology of the future, which is so important to keeping these companies viable here in Illinois. And I would be glad to answer any questions that may be raised, and following that, I would move for the favorable passage of the Bill."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of Senate Bill 1562. On that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1562 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. 121  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 On this question, there are 104 voting 'aye", 6 voting "no". Senate Bill 1562, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1603, Representative Hastert. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1603, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the State Universities Civil Service System. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert, on Senate Bill 1603."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Senate Bill 1603 appropriates 816,050 dollars for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Universities Civil Service System, and I ask for its positive passage."

"The Gentleman has moved the passage of Senate Bill 1603. On that, is there any discussion? There being none. the question is, Shall Senate Bill 1603 pass? All in favor vote 'aye, opposed vote "no". This is final passage. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 109 voting 'aye', none voting 'no'. Representative Slater asks leave to be... asks to vote 'aye'. On this question, there are 110 voting 'aye', none voting 'no'. Senate Bill 1603, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1604, Representative Hastert. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1604, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to certain retirement systems. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert, on Senate Bill 1604."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1604 apppropriates 82,270,700 dollars 122  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the State Universities Retirement System and I ask for its positive passage."

"The Gentleman has moved the passage of Senate Bill 1604. On that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1604 pass?" All in favor vote 'aye", opposed vote 'no". This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 115 voting 'aye", none voting 'no". Senate Bill 1604, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1628, Representative... Representative Leverenz. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1628, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to various legislative support agencies. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz, on Senate Bill 1628."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The total in the Bill for the legislative support agencies amounts to 10,850,655... 665, and I ask for your 'aye vote."

"The Gentleman has moved the passage of Senate Bill 1628. On that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1628 pass?" All in favor vote 'aye", opposed vote 'no". This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 115 voting 'aye", none voting 'no". Senate Bill 1628, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1738, Representative Hastert. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1738, a Bill for an Act making 123  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"That's... 38 is Hastert."

"I'm sorry. Representative Hastert."

"That's okay. I like your recognition."

"Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Senate Bill 1738 appropriates six... 648,277,850 dollars to the Department of Mental Health for its ordinary and contingent expenses."

"The Gentleman has moved the passage of Senate Bill 1738. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1738 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question... for what reason does the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Brookins, rise? On this question, there are 115 voting 'aye', none voting 'no'. Senate Bill 1738, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1744, Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1744 appropriates 23,481,100 dollars for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Teachers' Pension Retirement Fund for certain supplementary benefits and repayment of retirement funds."

"Senate Bill 1744, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Teachers' Retirement System. Third Reading of the Bill."

"We just did it backwards. The Bill has been read 124  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 a third time. Representative Hastert has now moved the passage of Senate Bill 1744. All in favor vote... Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1744 pass?" All in favor vote 'aye", opposed vote 'no". The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 115 voting 'aye', none voting 'no'. Senate Bill 1744, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1751, Representative Barnes. Representative Barnes? Is the Lady in the chamber? Representative Hastert will... Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1751, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Corrections. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1751 appropriates 437... I'm sorry. 436,820... 91,800 dollars (sic) to the Department of Corrections for their ordinary and contingent expenses."

"The Gentleman has moved the passage of Senate Bill 1751. On that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1751 pass?" All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. This is final action. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'aye', none voting 'no'. Senate Bill 1751, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1757. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1757, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Revenue. Third Reading of the Bill." 125  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"The Gentleman from Kendall, Hastert, on Senate Bill 1757." June 24, 1986

Representative Hastert: "Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1757 appropriates 1,418,084,800 dollars for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Revenue. I ask for its positive passage."

Speaker Braun: "The Gentleman has moved the passage of Senate Bill 1757. On that, is there discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1757 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'aye', none voting 'no'. Senate Bill 1757, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1759, Representative Hastert. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1759, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Veterans' Affairs. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert." Hastert: House. As "Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the amended, Senate Bill 1759 appropriates $27,731,800 to the ordinary and contingent expenses for the Department of Veterans' Affairs, and I ask for its positive passage."

"Representative Hastert, this is the Bill to which you referred earlier, but you've been satisfied that it Hastert: Speaker is... " "Madam Speaker, I stand corrected."

"Thank you. The Gentleman has moved the passage of Senate Bill 1759. On that, is there any discussion? 126  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. I rise in support of the Bill. I believe there's some questions raised with Floor Amendment #8 that I... that have yet to be resolved, but it's, on the whole, a very good budget for the Department of Veterans' Affairs and I believe serves our veterans very well."

"The Gentleman... Representative Hastert, do you care to close?"

"Just ask for positive passage."

"The Gentleman has moved the passage of Senate Bill 1759. All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. This is final action. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'aye', none voting 'no'. Senate Bill 1759, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1769. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1769, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Arts Council. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Kendon Senate Bill 1769. Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1769 appropriates 7,667,700 dollars for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Arts Council."

"The Gentleman has moved the passage of Senate Bill 1769. On that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1769 pass?'"

"Madam Speaker, can I take... momentarily take this out of the record just for a second?" 127  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986

"1769 is taken out of the record."

"Thank you."

"Senate Bill 1772, Representative Hastert." Hastert: :"Well, Representative Barnes is on the floor, and it's her Bill."

"Representative... Out of the record. Senate Bill 1779, Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen... "

"Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1779, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Public School Teachers' Pension and Retirement Fund. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert, on Senate Bill 1779. For what reason... Proceed, Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Senate Bill 1779 appropriates 3,177,800 dollars general revenue funds to the Illinois Public School Teachers' Pension Retirement Fund, and I ask for its positive passage."

"The Gentleman has moved the passage of Senate Bill 1779. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1779 pass?" All in favor say 'aye'... All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 115 voting 'aye', none voting 'no'. Senate Bill 1779, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Barnes, are you prepared to proceed with Senate Bill 1769? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1772, Representative Barnes. Representative Barnes, are you prepared to proceed with Senate Bill 1772? 128  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE That's the Prisoner Review Board. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." June 24, 1986

"Senate Bill 1772, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Prisoner Review Board. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Lady from Cook on Senate Bill 1772. Representative Barnes on 1772. Thank you."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Incorporating all floor action, Senate Bill 1772 appropriates 866,200 dollars from the General Revenue Fund to the Prisoner Review Board for Fiscal Year '87 ordinary and contingent expenses. The Board receives no funding from any other state or federal fund. I would move "do adopt"."

"The Lady has moved the passage of Senate Bill 1772. On that, is there any discussion? There being none. the question is, "Shall Senate Bill 1772 pass?" All in favor vote "aye", opposed vote "no". Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 114 voting "aye", none voting "no". Senate Bill 1772, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Barnes, Senate Bill 1769 is the Arts Council appropriation. Are you prepared to proceed? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1769, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Arts Council. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Lady from Cook on Senate Bill 1769."

"Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Senate Bill 1769 is introduced to appropriate 7,667,700 dollars for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Arts Council. I would recommend "do adopt"." 129  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986

"The Lady has moved the passage of Senate Bill 1769. On that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1769 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. This is final action. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 114... 112 voting 'aye', 4 voting 'no'. Senate Bill 1769, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"Madam Speaker, I wish to take 1825, 1826 and 1846 out of the record at this time or not have them called. I would like to thank everyone on the House floor for their cooperation and I'm sure I speak for Representative Bowman, Representative Barnes and Representative Hastert."

"Thank you, Representative Leverenz. We will now move to the Order of Motions on page 13 of the Calendar. On the Order of Motions, House Joint Resolution appears... 218. Representative Turner. House Joint Resolution 218, Representative Turner. Mr. Clerk, read the Resolution."

"House Joint Resolution 218, pursuant to Rule 77, I move to discharge Urban and Redevelopment Committee for further consideration and place on the Speaker's table."

"The Gentleman from Cook on House Joint Resolution 218."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Assembly. Joint... House Joint Resolution 218 simply sets up a bipartisan Committee to study the housing problem here in the State of Illinois. As you know, there's been a number of cutbacks on the federal level. We had some hearings this year dealing with the Illinois Housing Development Authority. As a result of some of those hearings, we concluded that we need further study on this 130  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 particular issue of housing and what the state's role should be. And so, I ask your favorable support in setting up this Committee, both House and Senate Members, to try to come up with some recommendations and solutions dealing with the shortage and the non-availability of housing for low and moderate income people in the State of Illinois."

"The Gentleman has moved the passage of House Joint Resolution 218. On that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, Shall House Joint Resolution 218 pass?" All in favor say aye", opposed say "no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Resolution is adopted. On the Motion. I'm sorry, the Motion is adopted. The Motion is adopted. Senate Joint Resolution 101, Speaker Madigan. Mr. Clerk... "

"Madam Chair?"

"Yes, Sir?"

"Can we have that Motion heard now?"

"Mr... The Gentleman requests leave for immediate consideration of the... of House Joint Resolution 218. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. Has the Amendment been distributed? The Resolution... Mr. Clerk, read the Resolution."

"House Joint Resolution 218, offered by Turner, resolves that the House of Representatives, the Senate concurring herein, that there shall hereby be created a Select Joint Committee of the Illinois General Assembly on Housing in Illinois."

"Representative Turner, on House Joint Resolution 218."

"I think I explained the Resolution. I spoke with Representative Kirkland who also is a Member of this Committee. I think we agree that there is further study needed regarding the housing problem here in the State of 131  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day Illinois. June 24, 1986 It's not just limited to our urban communities, but we're talking state-wide, and I ask your favorable support of this Resolution."

"The Gentleman has moved the passage of House Joint Resolution 218. On that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from McLean, Representative Ropp."

"Madam Speaker, would the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative, in your wisdom of this need, can you tell me why one of the existing current standing Committees could not be assigned this responsibility of study to bring back to the Body an appropriate Bill if need for some changes?"

"Representative Turner."

"I... First of all, I would like to ask the Gentleman if you have a recommendation as to what standing Committee... which one, but I... "

"Sure."

"We heard it... it's just that we had a Subcommittee in the Urban Redevelopment Committee, and the time does not allow a complete study of this particular issue. And we felt that in terms of having some real emphasis on it, that both the House and Senate and both sides of the aisle providing some real input in which would provide some additional staff to really study this issue, that we might be able to come up with some workable recommendations."

"Well, even if it was in the Urban Redevelopment Committee itself, that would be a good start and certainly would be in keeping with what... what we have established some degree of priorities by getting rid of a lot of Commissions and Committees, and it just seems like one of the things that we were attempting to do rather than to always set up 132  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 either another group... "

"Representative, I don't mean to cut you off, with this particular Resolution, we are including Senate Members, and because of the urgency of the housing situation here in the state, we thought that if we had recommendations from both sides of the aisle working on proposed legislations or an agenda that it would have a lot more impact."

"Well, it might be a stronger Committee if you wouldn't include all the Senators. I mean, House Members might show up. Senators probably don't... wouldn't show up to these meetings anyway, so we'd lose all their expertise."

"I think the... I think the housing question is one where they'll be more in favorable to show up for it. Thank you... and I thank you for your favorable support on this Resolution."

"Is there further discussion? Is there further discussion? The... Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Winnebago, Representative Hallock."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'd like to know just how we got on this Order of Business. We were on another Order of Business, and now we're on the Order of Motions, and not the first Motion, but a Motion halfway down the page. Would you explain that, please?"

"We're in the... We're in the middle of the debate on this Resolution, and in short..."

"Madam Speaker, it's been a fascinating debate, but I'd like to know how we got on this Order in the first place?"

"We moved there."

"Well, Madam Speaker, could you tell the Members just where you intend to move next so we can have some idea as to where you... prepare our Motions and prepare our Bills."

"We will proceed with this and one other Motion, and then we will probably adjourn, I think." 133  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Hallock: "Well, say no more."

"Thank you. Representative Piel." June 24, 1986

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. First, a question of the Chair. How many votes does this Motion take?"

"60 votes."

"Will the Gentleman yield?"

"I'm sorry, Representative Piel. What was your question?"

"Will the Gentleman yield?"

"Oh, of course. He indicates he will. Representative Turner."

"Art, just a... I'm sorry I came in at the tail end of your conversation with Representative Ropp. What is the reason there, you know, for bringing this up right now? What is the dire emergency to have this heard, you know, today? Not going through the Committee process."

"Representative Piel, I think that, as you've been reading the newspapers, because of some of the things that's happening on the federal level regarding the current restructuring of our tax situation, it has caused a problem regarding the Housing, you know, there's a direct result... correlation between what's happening in Washington and what's happening in terms of housing starts in the state. And we feel that, as you know, there were over 20,000 homeless people here in the State of Illinois, and the lack of... of affordable housing for both low and moderate income people here in the state, there just seems to be a great shortage, and we feel that there needs to be something or some... the state should take some role in trying to resolve that issue. And we thought that further study of this housing shortage is needed right away, in terms of trying to prepare for legislation for next year."

"I've got a question. Isn't there any other... or isn't 134  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 there any state agency that could give us the figures we need and the information we need? Why do we have to create another Joint Committee? It seems like every time... You know, a couple of years ago, we got rid of Commissions. Now every time, it seems that we're turning around and creating another... instead of calling it a Commission, we're calling it a Committee... Joint Committee."

"The reason... The reasons that were suggested that we set up this Committee is a direct response to the agency that I thought and I think that comes to your mind, being the Illinois Housing Development Authority, and their response when we talk about the housing situation is that it is not their responsibility. They're more a bonding agency. and so it was the result of not... not having a state agency who deals particularly with the housing situation where we thought we..."

"IHDA has... IHDA suggested to you to... that this would be the best way to go? Is that what you... I'm sorry. Is that what you said?"

"Well, as a result of the hearings that we had with IHDA, we concluded that this was the best way to go. Representative Kirkland and some of the other... my other colleagues on the other side of the aisle sat in on some of those hearings, and they, too, agreed that further study of the housing issue was necessary."

"Did IHDA have... At that present time, did IHDA have any of that information you needed?"

"IHDA came to some of the meetings, but IHDA says that it is not their responsibility, that they are more of a bonding agency and that they do not go out and develop housing of decide to build housing, but they sell the bonds for the housing."

"Thank you." 135  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"Is that the end of discussion? June 24, 1986 It is. The Gentleman has moved the adoption of House Joint Resolution 218. All in favor say 'aye, opposed say 'nay". In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it. The Resolution is adopted. For the edification of the Membership and particularly Representative Hallock, when I said that we would probably adjourn, I probably should have made that word possibly adjourn. Possibly adjourn. Thank you. Turner: Moving right along, Representative Cullerton. Senate Joint Resolution Representative Turner." 101. Informed "Madam Chair (sic Madam Speaker), I've been that because of this Resolution, in fact, forms the Committee, that we will need a Roll Call vote on it, that I will need 60 votes on it and I will need a Roll Call vote on it."

Speaker Braun: "Mr. Clerk, on House Joint Resolution 218, would you read the Resolution and then we will take a Roll Call vote on it. We're back to House Joint Resolution 218."

"House Joint Resolution 218, creates an urban redevelopment Committee."

House Joint "Mr. Clerk. Mr. Clerk, it says Senate Bill 218. House Joint Resolution 218, please. Resolution. Okay. Now, the question is, • ShHouse Joint Resolution 218 pass?" All in favor vote aye", opposed vote 'no. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 82 voting "aye", 28 voting.…… Representative Mulcahey votes 'aye'. Hannig. Representative Hannig. Okay. Hallock: Representative Representative Hallock." "I believe the title combines two different Resolutions on the board. HJR 218 has nothing to do with the Constitution." 136  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986

"That's true, but the board doesn't seem to want to get straightened out, Representative Hallock. It was Senate before and then Senate Bill and we tried to get it fixed up."

"Well then, so the Members know what they're voting on, we're voting o on 218 which was debated by Representative Turner a few minutes ago."

"Right. Right. I think that's a function of the board though. Okay. Now it doesn't say anything. Alright. On this question... Representative Wojcik votes "no". Alrighty. Representative Cowlishaw votes "no". Representative Barnes changes her vote from 'aye to "no". Representative McAuliffe changes his vote from aye to "no". Representative Frederick votes 'aye'... "no", votes "no". Representative Kubik changes his vote from aye to "no". Representative Zwick."

"Is there any chance we could retake this Roll Call since the wrong Bill was up there? I'd like to change my vote. I know there are many others seeking recognition. Why don't we just take it over?"

"I'm sorry. I wasn't aware there was confusion created because of what the board..."

"Yeah, we thought we were voting on the other Bill, on HJR... well, the other one that you had up there."

"I'm sorry. I was not aware of any confusion. We had discussed it and they... I'd like to... I'll recognize any changes if you'd like to just so we can move through this. Representative Zwick, you change your vote to "no". Representative Churchill votes "no". Representative Didrickson. Didrickson votes "no". I changed Representative Zwick already. Any further changes? Zwick votes "no". Representative McAuliffee, you've been changed. Change Representative McAuliffe to "no". 137  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 Representative Tate."

"Speaker, I'd like to change my vote. And since everybody else wants to change their vote, why don't we just dump this Roll Call and start over?"

"Representative Tate changes his vote to "no". Representative White votes "aye". Is everybody happy? Good. On this Resolution there are 76 voting "aye", 36 voting "no". House Joint Resolution (218), having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Joint Resolution 101, Representative Turner. Representative Cullerton. Mr. Clerk, read the Resolution."

"Senate Joint Resolution 101. Motion, "I move to discharge Executive Committee and place on consideration"."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton, on Senate Joint Resolution 101, on the Motion."

"Yes, Madam Speaker. I believe that there is an Amendment to this Senate Joint Resolution. So, I think the Clerk is supposed to read the Amendment. Now, I might be wrong. Maybe I'm the one that's supposed to read the Amendment. Maybe Amendment's been adopted. And once again, the Clerk seems to have switched the... have the wrong title up there. So, I don't know. Can we have the real Clerk come back?"

"I think it's a function of the machines, Representative Cullerton. So..."

"Too many hours at the Pasta House. Too many hours at the Pasta House."

"Representative Cullerton..."

"Yes."

"... first comes the Motion, then comes the Amendment, then comes the vote on the Resolution. We're on the Motion. Would you proceed on the Motion?"

"The Motion to adopt?" 138  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986

"The Motion to discharge the Executive Committee. etcetera."

"Okay, fine. Okay. I move to discharge the Executive Committee, Senate Joint Resolution 101. Senate Joint Resolution 101 creates a Council on the Revision of the Illinois Constitution as a voluntary organization of scholars, educators, officials to help advise the General Assembly and the public on constitutional issues. The Illinois Constitution requires the question of a Constitutional Convention be submitted to the electors within each 20 year period, and that's the purpose of creating this Council. So, I would move that we discharge the Executive Committee."

"The Gentleman has moved to discharge the Executive Committee. On that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Marion, Representative Friedrich."

"Madam Speaker and Members of the House, probably one of the most dangerous things that can happen in the State of Illinois is another Constitutional Convention. That was one of the mistakes that was made in the last one, was making an automatic call. So, whatever I can do and whatever you can do I think should be done to delay another one. So, I suggest you oppose this Amendment... Resolution."

"Is there further discussion? The Gentleman from McHenry, Representative Klemm."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Well, I don't know if anybody noticed that we do have an Executive Committee scheduled for Friday. There's certainly ample time for this Resolution to be handled at that time. I don't know why we have to discharge it when we're having a meeting this coming week. So, I would think that it would be more 139  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 appropriate if have the Committee discuss the Resolution as it should be and then vote it out and bring it to the floor as it normally would be handled. So, I would stand in opposition to this discharge Motion."

"Is there further discussion? The Gentleman from McLean, Representative Ropp."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative, the normal process for discharging Committee is when it's brought to the Committee and there are too many Bills to be heard, and you sit there for two or three hours, and you don't get heard, and you show good intentions of having your Bill heard. Can you give me the reason why this Bill (sic - Resolution) was not heard in Executive Committee?"

"My best guess, and I'm not the principle Sponsor. The Speaker of the House, Mr. Madigan, is the principle Sponsor. My best guess is that since the Committees have... since we have deadlines for Bills to get out of Committee and we do not have a deadline for Senate Joint Resolutions, my best guess is that the Resolution was not called because there were other Bills that had a deadline before the Executive Committee. And that would be my best explanation."

"Okay. But this Committee is going to meet Friday."

"Yes."

"Which is the one that you're trying to discharge. So, there's a possibility that it could be heard since there's only one other item of business on the agenda. So, we ought to be able to maybe get two heard Friday which would not necessarily be needed to discharge it, when I think maybe the Chairman of the Committee..."

"Well, let me... let me... I just.." 140  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Ropp: "... in his wisdom, can get two Bills handled in one Session."

"Well, Representative Ropp, let me tell you this. to tell you that the reason why it wasn't heard - I gave you my best guess - now I understand. The Senate Resolution..."

"Oh, you're not guessing now. This is..."

"Right."

"Okay."

"As I indicated, I'm not the principle Sponsor, was not responsible for bringing it before Committee. The Senate Joint Resolution came over from the Senate after the Committee deadline and that's why it was not heard in the Committee. As far as the meeting on Friday, I was unaware of the fact that it was scheduled for Friday. I... As Representative Barnes said earlier, I didn't know it was posted for Friday and perhaps it is, maybe it isn't. I haven't checked my mail yet. As you know, June 30th is right around the door. I believe it's next Monday. And we may... we may not have enough time to debate this important Senate Joint Resolution. So, we're doing it today. Today is Tuesday. We have a week to go. So, we'll have a whole week to deal with it."

"Well, it would almost seem that we'd have adequate time Friday. If we don't get it Friday, we would have Saturday, Sunday and Monday, the 30th, to deal with this important issue."

"We might not be in Session over the weekend. Normally we're not in Session over the weekend."

"I know it, but it's scheduled. The Speaker has provided a schedule which clearly states we're in over the weekend."

"On the floor, not in Committee talking about Senate Joint Resolutions." 141  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986

"Is there further discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Hoffman."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. In regard to the previous discussion, it would appear to me that we're talking about a Constitutional Convention or the possibility of the call to the voters for a Constitutional Convention in 1990. It's not like it was eminent or upon us right now. And, therefore, it would appear to me, since an Executive Committee has... a meeting has been set for 8:30, that this Resolution be added to it. And if the Gentleman wants to amend the Resolution, as he proposes to do, do it in the Executive Committee and bring it out and we will... we will vote it up and down. Obviously, again, the time frame is such that, you know, we put ideas, we put some legislation off to consider during the Veto Session. This certainly could be considered at that time also, if necessary. And so, for those reasons, I rise in opposition to this Motion at this particular time."

"Is there further discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from DeKalb, Representative Countryman."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I, too, rise in opposition to this. I notice that the Amendment that is proposed requires the regency university system to provide the Committee with its staff. Earlier this morning, I sponsored the appropriations Bill for the regency university systems. I think good Committee questions would be questions like whether or not there's sufficient resources in their budget to handle this, provide this staff and whether additional funding is necessary. I don't know that we necessarily would oppose it once it goes to the Committee structure; but, with a Committee meeting on 142  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 Friday morning, there's just really no reason why we can't put this through the process and the procedure that we established in this House, and there's no reason to bypass Committee. And I would recommend a 'no' vote."

"Is there further discussion? There being none, the Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton, to close."

"Yes, I'll try to address the issue raised. First of all, Representative Friedrich, you were at the last Constitutional Convention. I was not. Apparently, in the Constitution, it is required that the question of an Illinois Constitutional Convention be submitted to the electors within each 20 year period. So, that's going to be done whether you like it or not. And SO, all we're saying with this Resolution is that we shall have a Committee that will study the need for any change. And if you'll look at my Amendment, you'll notice that we make some changes from the Senate proposal that really would go more towards the... the position, standing more towards the proposition that we not change the Constitution. Unless I am misreading what I understand the Constitution to... to do. I think that the Constitution places the direct responsibility for the provision of the Convention upon the General Assembly. It has to be reviewed every 20 years. and we should review it. In as much time as it took to debate this issue on whether or not we should discharge the Committee, everyone could have read the Resolution. It's a fairly straightforward Resolution. I will be happy to take as much time as possible to debate the Amendment and the merits of the Resolution right now. I don't think it's a need for this Joint Resolution to go to a Committee on Friday. For that reason, I would appreciate your support to discharge Committee." 143  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986

"The Lady from Cook, for what reason do you rise, Representative Pullen."

"Madam Speaker, could you tell me how many votes this Motion requires, please?"

"I've been advised this requires 60 votes. The Mot... Representative Pullen, insofar as the Motion is just to discharge Committee and does not call for immediate consideration, it requires 60 votes. Alright. Before we take a vote on the Motion, the board is wrong again. So, I want to make sure everybody understands. We're going to clear the board. Okay. That's the Motion. Representative Friedrich, your light is on. However, you spoke in debate. So, it would be inappropriate to recognize you at this time. You may, however, explain your vote. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You may make a point of order, but you... since you spoke in debate, that should be the end of your comments at this time on this Motion. Okay. Now, we are prepared to vote on the Motion. The Motion, Representative Cullerton moves to discharge the Executive Committee on Senate Joint Resolution 101. All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'no'. All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have voted? Have voted? Have voted? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 67 voting 'aye', 49 voting 'no'. The Motion passes. Representative Friedrich, for what reason do you rise?"

"Well, Representative Cullerton has suggested... used my name in debate, and I was just going to say the Constitution does provide that the Convention be called, but it doesn't provide that a Committee be discharged on a week before the end of the Session for immediate consideration of this Bill."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, 144  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 Representative Cullerton, on Senate Joint Resolution 101."

"Are there any Amendments?"

"Mr. Clerk. Read the Resolution."

"Senate Joint Resolution 101, resolves that the Council on the Revision of the Illinois Constitution be created. Floor Amendment #1 is offered by Representative Cullerton."

"For what reason does the Lady from Cook, Representative Pullen, rise?"

"Madam Speaker, when you indicated earlier that the Motion to discharge Committee takes 60 votes, you said that it takes 60 votes because he was not moving for immediate consideration."

"I did."

"Now he is getting immediate consideration without this House having done something about that?"

"Okay. Representative Pullen, apparently, the Parliamentarian advises me... the Parliamentarian advises that insofar as the Motion was not to bypass Committee, but rather to discharge Committee, that it took 60 votes and immediate consideration under Rule... under Rule 77 is appropriate with the 60 votes, since it was not to bypass Committee but rather to discharge Committee."

"But, Madam Speaker, you stated to the House that the Gentleman..."

"I did."

"... was not seeking immediate consideration. So, how is it that this is the next Order of Business?"

"I did. I did say that, Representative Pullen, but that was in response... I misspoke in response to your question, how many votes are required on the Motion. The Motion required 60 votes. And the issue of immediate consideration really was irrelevant given the nature of the 145  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th. GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 Motion that was made."

"But, Madam Speaker, the Members who were voting on that Motion at the time they were voting were doing so under the apparently mistaken impression that immediate consideration was not a part of what they were voting on."

Speaker Braun: "Representative Pullen, the Chair stands corrected. In response to your specific question, how many votes are required on the Motion, the answer was 60 votes. I should have refrained from editorializing about that answer, because the editorializing was in error."

"Nevertheless, Madam Speaker. in editorializing, you misled the Body about the nature of the vote that they were taking at the time of the Roll Call."

"In that case, Representative Pullen, your point is well taken. I think we should take another vote on the Motion."

"Well then, I think this should be taken out of the record."

"No, Ma'am. We will take another vote on the Motion with everyone understanding that this Motion requires 60 votes for passage. Representative Ropp."

"Madam Speaker, on a point of order. I don't think this was ever assigned to the Committee. So, you could not even discharge it when it wasn't even assigned to a Committee. When, in fact, what you're attempting to do is to bypass the Committee, and that's what we're voting on and you're attempting. And it should require 71 votes then. I know. It may have been going to be assigned. The point was it wasn't."

"Representative Ropp, the Motion which I have in my hand and which you may examine says, "Pursuant to Rule 77. I move to discharge the Committee on Executive from consideration of Senate Joint Resolution 101 and place on 146  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 the Order of Speaker's Table." So, this is a discharge and not a bypass Motion. Representative Klemm."

"Point of order, Madam Chairman... or Speaker."

"Yes, Sir."

"And that is that the Bi11... the Resolution was never assigned to the Executive to be discharged from in the first place."

"Representative, that's the same point..."

"And you read the Motion which said discharge Executive, and it wasn't assigned to Executive. So, I think the ruling is incorrect."

"Representative Klemm, I have been advised and I have no paper in front of me, but I have been advised that the Resolution was assigned to the Executive Committee and that the Motion to discharge the Executive Committee was appropriately made. Yes, Sir."

"Could you perhaps direct the Clerk to check the file and find out if, in fact, it has been? Maybe it would clarify it."

"The assignment... Representative Cullerton."

"Yes, Madam Speaker, we have a number of issues that we ... that are legitimate things to squabble over and to fight over. This is not one of them. So, until a better, more amenable mood descends upon the House, I think it would be best that we take this out of the record at this time, and we'll come back to it when everybody, you know, is a little calmer and isn't upset."

"The Bill... the Bill (sic - Resolution) is taken out of the record. Mr. Clerk, for a Calendar announcement."

"Supplemental Calendar l is now being distributed."

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of 147  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 the House. I would now move to extend the appropriate rule to extend until June 30th Senate Bill 1734 and Senate Bill 1846."

"Have you heard... You've heard the Gentleman's Motion. On that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Piel."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Could we have a little description of what the Bills are? Have they been talked to about... Have the Bills been discussed with Leadership on this side of the aisle?"

"Oh, surely. The Bills are simply vehicle Bills now. One containing one dollar and that is Senate Bill 1734, has a dollar in it. And the other Bill is 1846, 1846 that contains an appropriation of 15,000 dollars which is duplicative, and I'm simply asking for the extension of the... to June 30th of the two Bills to keep them alive."

"Is there further discussion? The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Hoffman."

"I... I apologize. Maybe it's because of the acoustics. The first Bill was in reference to what appropriation? Not the..."

"1734 has an appropriation for one dollars in it."

"For who?"

"Pardon me?"

"What agency or what group?"

"Build Illinois."

"Pardon? Okay, alright. Second one."

"Alright."

"And the second one is?"

"15,000 dollars."

"For?"

"I'm sorry. That was a different Bill. That one also has one dollar in it for the Metropolitan Fair and 148  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day Exposition Authority."

"Thank you." June 24, 1986

"Thanks for correcting me on the second one."

"Is there further discussion? Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert."

"Would the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates he will."

"These appropriations are for one dollar?"

"Correct."

"Wouldn't it be better if we just pass those dollar appropriations now and... I mean, we spent several billion today. We could probably spend a couple more dollars and be through with the Bills."

"I have been trying to explain to my side of the aisle that that might be the best approach to the program, but they have convinced me that that would not be appropriate."

"I understand. So, this is a couple of dollars you're holding off for your side of the aisle, is that correct?"

"The vehicle Bills, yes."

"Alright, thank you."

"Okay. Thank you, Congressman."

"Is there further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the deadline on Senate Bill 1734 and 1846 be extended to June 30th?' All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. While we're voting on this Motion, I would like to respond to Representative Klemm and Pullen's concern regarding Senate Joint Resolution 101. There was some confusion. Apparently, the Bill had gone to Rules Committee, had not been assigned to Executive. So, the effect of the Motion was to bypass. As such, it has been taken out of the record and the Bill... the Roll Call will be void and... the Bill has been taken out of the record. We will act 149  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 upon it once it is put... the Motion is appropriately and properly put. So, you were right. You're welcome. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 69 voting 'aye', 47 voting 'no'. The Motion passes. Gentleman from Cook, Representative White."

"Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I move to waive the posting requirement so SJR 159 can be heard in the Executive Committee on Friday morning. I have cleared with the Spokesman and the Chairman of that Committee."

"The Gentleman moves to suspend the posting requirement for Senate Joint Resolution 159. On that, is there any discussion? There being none, in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Motion passes, and the posting requirements are suspended. For the edification of the Membership, we are de facto at ease, for a few minutes. There is a search for some business for us to resolve at this time, and so we'll just be at ease for about five minutes. Ladies and Gentlemen, we have some nonconcurrences that we can dispose of quickly. As such, I intend to call House Bill 3549, Representative Steczo; 3351, Representative Hannig: 3525, Representative Didrickson; and 1446, Representative Alexander, on nonconcurrence for nonconcurrence Motions. Mr. Clerk, read the first... alright... Is there some... Representative Mays."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. What were those Bills again?"

"3549, Representative Steczo; 3351, Representative Hannig: 3525, Representative Didrickson; 2785, Representative Bowman and 1446, Representative Alexander."

"Thank you." 150  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986

"On nonconcurrence. Representative Stec... On the Order of Nonconcurrence. Yes. Representative..."

"I'm Ryder."

"Ryder. Thank you."

"Thank you. I'd move to divide the question."

"Oh, yes, of course. It will be. I'm sorry."

"Thank you."

"I was just... that was just information..."

"You stated it as if it were all for one and one for all."

"No, Sir. No, Sir. It was informational purposes. I will do each one individually. Is Representative Steczo in the chamber? Then we'll move... Mr. Clerk, House Bill 3351, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3351, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code, together with Senate Amendment #1."

"Representative Hannig, on the Motion."

"Yes, thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. It's my intention to nonconcur with the Senate Amendment on this Bill. When it passed out of the House, I thought we had a good piece of legislation. The Senator did not discuss this Amendment with me. I would simply ask that we nonconcur with the Senate Amendment."

"The Gentleman has moved to nonconcur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3351. All in favor say 'aye'... On that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Ryder... or Vinson, as the case may be."

"I would... would the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative, I apologize that I did not hear exactly all that you said. Would you give me a description of the Bill as it left the House and the Amendment that the Senate put on that you find objectionable?" 151  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

"The Bill as it left the House June 24, 1986 dealt with bonding and what to do with excess monies in those cases where there were bond sales. Basically it was an agreed Bill at that point. The Senate, in their wisdom or lack thereof, put on an Amendment which I really have not discussed with any of the parties, and it's really for that reason that I'm asking that we nonconcur in that Amendment."

"What does the Amendment do, Representative, do you know?"

"I don't have it in front of me, no."

"Can you tell me who was the Sponsor in the Senate of that Amendment?"

"The Senate Sponsor was my Senator and your Senator, Senator Demuzio."

"And I have the Amendment in front of me, and it appears that it modifies something concerning the school board and, in fact, the sum total of the Amendment is only three lines. It says, "After a public hearing thereon at a regularly scheduled meeting notice of which was given no later than at the previous regularly scheduled meeting." What... I guess I just don't understand what it is you find objectionable about that particular language."

"The Senator did not discuss any of this language with me. I'm not aware of it, or not necessarily in support of it. And I'd just simply as, as the House Sponsor of the Bill... of a House Bill, that we nonconcur in it."

"I can assure you that Senator Demuzio is a fairly communicative guy and if you'd made the... He's always telling me what to do, Gary. I don't know about you. But I understand. Thank you."

"Is there further discussion? There being none, the question is, "Shall the House nonconcur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3351?" All in favor say 'aye", 152  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it. and the House does nonconcur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3351. The next Bill which we skipped over is House Bill 3549, Representative Stezco. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3549, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to forest preserve districts, together with Senate Amendment #1."

"The Gentleman from Cook."

"Thank you. Madam Speaker, Members of the House. As it left the House, House Bill 3549 provided that in forest preserve districts with populations of less than three million and in park districts we would raise the threshold for noncompetitive bids from 4000 to 10,000 dollars. Amendment #1, which was placed on the Bill in the Senate by Senator Philip, provided that the noncompetitive bid award in fire protection districts would be raised from 1500 to 3000 dollars. This legislation needs. Madam Speaker, to be taken to Conference Committee to accommodate a particular problem with legislation that we need to take care of for Representative McNamara, and there's no other vehicles available to do so. So, I would ask the indulgence of the House to nonconcur in Amendment #1 so we can get that accomplished."

"Representative Ryder."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative, did I take it correctly from your comments that the Bill, as it passed the House, and, in fact, the Bill with the Senate Amendment is basically agreeable to you but you have another purpose for which you are asking this to be placed in a Conference Committee?"

"Representative Ryder, could you repeat that, please?" 153  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986

"I got the impression from your remarks that you aren't particularly objecting to the Senate Amendment, but rather that you had another purpose, to help out Representative McNamara and that's the reason it was going to Conference Committee."

"Well that, plus the fact, Representative Ryder, that with the question of... on the contracts for bids of fire protection districts, that had not been brought to my attention by Senator Philip nor did I understand it was his intent to put that language on the Bill. So, I think that would have to be looked at as well."

"Is it your intent to ask the Conference Committee to delete Senate Amendment #1 in a Conference Committee Report?"

"It's my intention, Representative Ryder, to certainly discuss that Amendment in Conference."

"Alright. Can you be a bit more specific as to this problem that we're going to help out Representative McNamara? What is that problem? What are we going to do?"

"That will be discussed too, Representative Ryder, in the Conference. We'll allow you to be on the Conference, if you so choose."

"Oh, so, we don't get to... we don't get to know about that as of this point?"

"I can... I can... In fact, if you would care to have the most specific information, Representative McNamara and myself have spent months with the Fiscal Emergency Act and it's an incredibly important Bill. And, unfortunately, the Senate Rules Committee did not allow that in. Representative McNamara had an Amendment filed to a Bill which was put over till next November. It doesn't really do us a lot of good now. So, it's our intention to use House Bill 3549 for that purpose, and it's my understanding 154  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 that that provision... or those provisions are agreed to by all."

"Okay. Representative, thank you for answering those questions. If I could please, would you just indicate, didn't you mention that there was a Bill or an Amendment... If you could give me a cite on those so that I can kind of be prepared when the things comes back to us."

"House Bill 2796."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Is there further discussion? The Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much. Madam Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Did you say, Representative, that the content of the Amendment that is to be put onto this Conference Committee should it go to Conference is agreed to? It has been before this chamber and is agreed to?"

"Representative Mays, the Bill, House BIll 2796, when it passed this House, passed nearly unanimously, as I recall. So, that would be the intent, to discuss the possibility of perhaps doing that in Conference. In addition, when Representative McNamara and myself filed an Amendment to Senate Bill 2078, that, in fact, I believe was agreed to on both sides of the aisle to allow that Amendment to go on."

"Well, if it is your intent then not to do anything except to move with agreed on language, that would be fine. I see no problem with that."

"Representative Steczo, have you responded?"

"Was that a question, Madam Speaker, or a statement?"

"I think it was..."

"Madam Speaker, question is, then you won't move anything on this Conference Committee Report that's not agreed to, 155  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day right? June 24, 1986 That's what you said."

"I would presume, Representative Mays, anything can happen in a Conference Committee. We don't know. I'm telling you what my intent is, and it would really be up to the will of the six... six ... or a majority of the Conferees who would sign the Report to be able to do whatever they wish. Keep in mind that the Bill, when it goes out of... out of the House or is nonconcurred with and goes in a Conference, is, at that point, out of the hands of the Sponsor."

"Thank you."

"Is there further discussion? The Gentleman has moved that the House nonconcur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3549. All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it. This House does nonconcur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3549. Senate Bill (sic - House Bill) 3525, Representative Didrickson. Representative Didrickson. Is the Lady in the chamber? Representative Didrickson. I'm sorry, House Bill. Out of the record. House Bill 2785, Representative Bowman. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Representative Bowman. Out of the record. House Bill 1446, Representative Alexander. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Take... She requested that the Bill be taken out of the record. Representative... Representative Giglio, in the Chair."

"House Bill 2785. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2785, a Bill for an Act to amend the Juvenile Court Act, together with Senate Amendments #1 and 2."

"Representative Bowman, on House Bill 2785."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I move to nonconcur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 156  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 34th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 to House Bill 2785. There is a technical error in the Amendment #1. The LRB inadvertently deleted a lot of language that we had no intention of deleting. And #2, we plan to drop in its entirety and the Senate will recede from 2. But we do need to take care of Amendment #1 in a Conference Committee. It is a purely technical change, but it must be done. So, I move to nonconur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to this Bill."

"The Gentleman moves to nonconur on Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2785. And on that question, the Representative from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."

"Speaker, I'm pinch hitting for Representative Vinson at the moment. Would the Sponsor yield for a question?"

"He indicates he will. Representative Bowman, for a question? Representative Ryder, for a question."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative, very briefly, would you tell us the subject matter of the Bill as it left the House, just very briefly?"

"Okay. The subject matter as it left the House dealt with the adjudicatory hearing and when a child is temporarily taken from his natural parents and placed in temporary foster care, the law requires that within 120 days there be an adjudicatory hearing to determine what then happens to the child. The trouble is that the law says 120 days, but, in fact, the average in Cook County is four years. And the Bill dealt with trying to find some way of reducing that delay. Do you want me to go into more detail or..."

"No, Representative, that's sufficient. Thank you. Did both 1 and 2 Senate Amendments become attached to the Bill?"

"Senate Amendments 1 and 2 are now on the Bill, and I'm 157  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day June 24, 1986 asking to nonconcur in both."

"Okay. It appears that Senate Bill (sic - Amendment) #1 rewrites the Bill."

"Yes, Senate Amendment #1 rewrites it, although it was a result of negotiations among the Illinois Action for Foster Children, the Cook County State's Attorneys Office, and I understand the bar associations were also involved. So, I understand that the added language is actually consensus language among all of the interested parties. The only problem that I have with Amendment #1 is the... it inadvertently deletes some language in existing statute that was not intended to be deleted."

"Okay. And that's the sole purpose for going into Conference Committee?"

"Yes. When I anticipate..."

"We don't have any other Representative problems that we're trying to solve by a Conference Committee in this situation, Representative?"

"No, I have other vehicles for those... those problems. This is pure and simple. When it comes out of Conference Committee, I anticipate that Senate Amendment #1 will be on the Bill except for the deleted language and the Senate will probably agreed to recede in #2."

"Oh, I see. Well, that sounds fairly clean. Thank you."

"Thank you."

"Further discussion? All those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion signify by saying 'aye', all those opposed 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the House does nonconcur to Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2785. Supplemental Calendar #2."

"Supplemental Calendar #2 is being distributed."

"House Bill 3525. Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 3525, a Bill for an Act to amend the 158  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 Cannibus Control Act, together with Senate Amendment #2."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Didrickson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I move to nonconcur with the Senate Amendment #2. This is not the agreed to language, and it needs to go to Conference Committee."

"The Lady moves to nonconcur to Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 3525. And on that question, all those in favor signify by saying 'aye", all those opposed 'nay". And the Motion carries. Representative Keane, on House Bill 1321. Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1321, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Income Tax Act, together with Senate Amendment #1."

"Representative Keane."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to nonconcur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1321. I've discussed my rationale and reasons with the other side of the aisle, and they have no problems."

"Gentleman moves that the House nonconcur to Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1321. And on that question, all those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'nay". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Motion carries. On Supplemental Calendar #2 appears House Bill 523. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 523, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning alcoholic beverages, together with Senate Amendments #1, 2 and 3."

"Representative Mautino, on House Bill 523."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to concur on Senate Amendments 1 and 3 and nonconcur on Senate Amendment #2 and seek a Conference Committee."

"Gentleman has moved..." 159  STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 133rd Legislative Day

June 24, 1986 "Oh, wait, no, excuse me. That's right. Just concur on 1 and 3, nonconcur on 2."

"Gentleman asks that the House concur on Senate Amendments #1 and 3 and nonconcur on Senate Amendment #2. And on that question, the Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."

"I'm pinch hitting again. Representative... Would the Representative yield for questions?"

"Representative Mautino."

"I've requested to have that taken out now because you're not going to do any nonconcurrences."

"Alright. Take it out of the record, Mr. Clerk. Representative Stephens, are you ready on 2486? No. Okay. Representative Cullerton, are you ready on House Bill 30437"

"No, I'd like to take it out of the record."

"Representative Kulas, in regards to your inquiry of the Chair, we would like to adjourn however, but we still have some business to do before the House. Representative Kulas, are you seeking recognition again?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. But your enlightening explanation didn't say anything. What are we doing?"

"We have some work to do. But there must be some difficulty between the understanding of both sides of the aisle. So, we have some Bills that have to be further discussed."

"Are we waiting for the real Sam Vinson to appear? Is that what we're waiting for?"

"That may be the problem, Representative Kulas. Representative Cullerton."

"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I move that the House stand adjourned until Wednesday, June 25th at the hour of 12:00 noon, leaving 160  133rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 24, 1986 time for perfunct in order for the House to read in any Messages from the Senate."

"Allowing the Clerk for... Matijevich."

Representative Matijevich: "Before he does that, I would like to... within the rules. make the official announcement that the Rules Committee will meet 9:55 a.m. in the Speaker's Conference Room tomorrow, June 25th, to consider House Bills 787 and 1467. 9:55 a..."

"The... ask that Motion to come in at 11:55 tomorrow.

Representative Cullerton Motion to... Matijevich: "Oh, alright, I'm sorry, I missed that. So, we will amend the time notice to 11:55. The House Rules Committee will meet at 11:55. Five minutes before we do into Session."

"Alright. The Rules Committee will meet at 11:55 and the House now stands adjourned until 12:00 tomorrow, allowing Perfunctory time for the Clerk. All those in favor of the Motion signify by saying 'aye", all those opposed 'nay". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it. The House now stands adjourned until 12:00 tomorrow."

"Introduction and First Reading of Bills. House Bill 3658, Pullen, a Bill for an Act in relation to the custody of children and amending certain Acts therein named. First Reading of the Bill. No further business, the House now stands adjourned." 161  DOCUMENT NAME REQ STORE OPER GROUP PRINT COMHAND DATE T062486 25 0 pj 12/03/86 D COPY WIDTH DEPTH ERROR 1 66 78  03/04/87 11:58 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX JUNE 24, 1986 PAGE 1 HB-0523 CONCURRENCE HB-0523 OUT OF RECORD HB-1321 CONCURRENCE HB-2785 CONCURRENCE PAGE 159 PAGE 160 PAGE 159 PAGE 156 HB-3351 CONCURRENCE PAGE 151 HB-3525 CONCURRENCE PAGE 158 HB-3549 CONCURRENCE PAGE 153 HB-3658 FIRST READING PAGE 161 S3-1519 THIRD READING PAGE 8 SB-1562 SECOND READING PAGE 74 SB-1562 THIRD READING PAGE 120 SG-1602 THIRD READING PAGE 9 SB-1603 SECOND READING PAGE 75 SB-1603 THIRD READING PAGE 122 SB-1604 SECOND READING PAGE 75 SB-1604 THIRD READING PAGE 122 SB-1605 THIRD READING PAGE 11 S6-1606 THIRD READING PAGE 11 SB-1607 THIRD READING PAGE 12 SB-1609 THIRD READING PAGE 12 SB-1610 THIRD READING PAGE 13 SB-1611 RECALLED PAGE 14 SB-1611 THIRD READING PAGE 15 SB-1626 THIRD READING PAGE 16 S8-1627 THIRD READING PAGE 16 SB-1623 SECOND READING PAGE 75 S8-1628 THIRD READING PAGE 123 SB-1639 THIRD READING PAGE 17 SB-1698 THIRD READING PAGE 18 SB-1734 MOTION PAGE 148 SB-1736 THIRD READING PAGE 18 SB-1737 RECALLED PAGE 19 SE-1737 THIRD READING PAGE 25 SB-1738 SECOND READING PAGE 76 SB-1738 THIRD READING PAGE 123 SB-1739 THIRD READING PAGE 29 SB-1740 THIRD READING PAGE 29 SB-1744 SECOND READING PAGE 80 SB-1744 THIRD READING PAGE 124 SB-1745 THIRD READING PAGE 30 S3-1746 THIRD READING PAGE 31 So-1747 THIRD READING PAGE 31 SB-1748 RECALLED PAGE 32 SB-1748 THIRD READING PAGE 33 SB-1749 THIRD READING PAGE 33 SB-1750 RECALLED PAGE 42 SB-1750 THIRD READING PAGE 44 SB-1750 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 37 SB-1751 SECOND READING PAGE 80 SB-1751 THIRD READING PAGE 125 SB-1752 RECALLED PAGE 37 SB-1752 THIRD READING PAGE 40 SB-1753 THIRD READING PAGE 40 SB-1754 THIRD READING PAGE 41 SB-1755 THIRD READING PAGE 41 SB-1756 RECALLED PAGE 45 S3-1756 THIRD READING PAGE 46 SB-1757 SECOND READING PAGE 96 SB-1757 THIRD READING PAGE 125 SB-1758 THIRD READING PAGE 46 S3-1759 SECOND READING PAGE 99 SB-1759 THIRD READING PAGE 126 SB-1760 THIRD READING PAGE 49 SB-176L THIRD READING PAGE 50 SB-1762 THIRD READING PAGE 51  03/04/87 11:58 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX JUNE 24, 1986 PAGE 2 SB-1763 RECALLED PAGE 52 SB-1763 THIRD READING PAGE 56 SB-1764 RECALLED PAGE 57 SB-1764 THIRD READING PAGE 58 SB-1765 THIRD READING PAGE 59 SB-1766 THIRD READING PAGE 60 S3-1769 SECOND READING PAGE 96 S3-1769 THIRD READING PAGE 127 SB-1769 THIRD READING PAGE 129 SB-1769 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 128 SB-1770 THIRD READING PAGE 60 SB-1771 THIRD READING PAGE 61 SB-1772 SECOND READING PAGE 96 SB-1772 THIRD READING PAGE 129 SB-1773 THIRD READING PAGE 62 SB-1774 THIRD READING PAGE 62 SB-1775 THIRD READING PAGE 63 SB-1776 THIRD READING PAGE 64 SB-1777 THIRD READING PAGE 64 SB-1778 THIRD READING PAGE 65 SB-1779 SECOND READING PAGE 97 SB-1779 THIRD READING PAGE 128 SB-1808 RECALLED PAGE 66 SB-1808 THIRD READING PAGE 68 SB-1822 RECALLED PAGE 68 SB-1822 THIRD READING PAGE 70 SB-1825 SECOND READING PAGE 97 SB-1826 SECOND READING PAGE 98 SB-1841 THIRD READING PAGE 71 SB-1846 SECOND READING PAGE 98 SB-1846 MOTION PAGE 148 HR-1480 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 4 HJR-0218 MOTION PAGE 130 HJR-0218 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 131 SJR-010L MOTION PAGE 138 SJR-010L RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 145 SJR-010L OUT OF RECORD PAGE 147 SJR-0159 MOTION PAGE 150 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER PAGE 1 SPEAKER BRESLIN IN CHAIR PAGE 1 PRAYER RABBI BARRY MARKS PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 1 MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE PAGE 2 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 2 DEATH RESOLUTIONS PAGE 3 GENERAL RESOLUTIONS PAGE 3 SPEAKER BRAUN IN THE CHAIR PAGE 93 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 161 PERFUNCTORY SESSION PAGE 161 PERFUNCTORY SESSION AD JOURNMENT PAGE 161.