STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE December 2, 1986 "The hour of 1:00 having arrived, the House will be in Session. Those not entitled to the floor will please withdraw. Members will be in their seats. Ladies and Gentlemen, the Chaplain for today will be the Reverend M. C. Johnson, Pastor of Calvary Temple Church of Springfield. Reverend Johnson is the guest of Representative Michael Curran. Will the guests in the gallery please join us for the invocation? Reverend Johnson."
"Shall everyone just look to God and ask for His wisdom. We also realize, Lord, that there are many important matters to be dealt with and so give us, I pray, the wisdom that You gave to Solomon. Let Your hand be upon us and Your direction be upon our lives and help that because of these Sessions that Illinois would be a better state and that the citizens would not only be encouraged, but they will be blessed. Bless every Member of the legislation (sic - Legislature) as they try to follow Your will and we'll praise You, for we ask it all in Your name and for Your glory. Amen."
"The Gentleman from McLean, Mr. Ropp, will lead us in the Pledge to the Flag."
Ropp et al: "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
"Roll Call for Attendance. Mr. Matijevich, are there any excused absences on the Democratic side?"
"None... none here, Mr. Speaker."
"Alright. Mr. Piel, are there any excused absences on the Republican side?"
"None to report, Mr. Speaker."
"Alright. Mr. Clerk, take the record. 114 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS B4th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 145th Legislative Day December 2, 1986 Members having answered to the call of the quorum, a quorum is present. Committee Report."
"Representative White, Chairman of the Committee on Human Services, to which the following Bill was referred, action taken December 1, 1986, reported the same back with the following recommendation: 'do pass' Senate Bill 1699."
"Agreed Resolutions."
"Agreed Resolutions. House Resolution 1692, Johnson; 1693, Stephens; 1694, Brookins; 1695, Curran; 1697, Klemm; 1698, Stephens; 1699, Curran; 1701, Barnes et al; 1702, McNamara; 1703, Washington; 1704, Brookins; 1705, Nash; 1707, Hartke; and 1708, Hartke."
"The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich, on the Agreed Resolutions."
"Speaker, these are all congratulatory, and I move the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."
"Gentleman from Lake moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. Those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Resolutions are adopted. Supplemental Calendar."
"Supplemental Calendar #1 is being distributed."
"Death Resolutions."
"House Joint Resolution 246, Daley. House Resolution 1691, Johnson. House Joint Resolution 246, offered by Representative Daley, with respect to the memory of James J. Floodas. House Resolution 1691, offered by Representative Johnson, with respect to the memory of Philip Wayne Smith. House Resolution 1696, offered by Representative Pedersen, with respect to the memory of William Cody Boggs, Sr. House Resolution 1700, offered by Representative Daley, with respect to the memory of William E. Cahill. House Resolution 1706, offered by 2 145th Legislative Day December 2, 1986 Representative Nash, with respect to the memory of Evans N. Sakellariou."
"Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich, on the Death Resolutions."
"Speaker, I move the adoption of the Death Resolutions."
"Gentleman from Lake moves for the adoption of the Death Resolutions. Those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Death Resolutions are adopted. Gentleman... Representative Stephens in the Chair for the purpose of an introduction."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. It's my pleasure to introduce to you the Triad High School Cheerleading Squad, the 1986 champions of the State Fair competition. Girls, you want to come on up? I'd also like to introduce their first year coach who took these young ladies to the championship, Ms. Melissa Taylor, for the purpose of introducing each of the members of the squad. Melissa."
"On behalf of the cheerleaders, I'd like to thank you very much for inviting us here. We're very honored and excited to be here. This is my first year as cheerleading coach at Triad, and it's been a terrific year. First of all, they got first place at the Springfield Fair and just Saturday, they got first place at the ICC Regional competition. They're very good cheerleaders and they're all around good students and very active in school. I'm very proud to be their sponsor. I'd like to introduce them at this time. Starting at this side, this is Chris 'Reinhardt', ...Whitehead, Leslie Miller, Gina Petroski Beth Klaustermeier, Cathy Cory, Melissa Snyder, Becky Blume, Amy May and Stacey Heape." 3 145th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE December 2, 1986
"Thank you, Melissa. Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen for your attention. Mr. Speaker."
"For what purpose does the Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Tate, seek recognition?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We were just wondering... we understand that there is a small little event that's going to take place at 3:00 this afternoon; however, in the meantime, there were a lot of Members on this side wondering whether we're going to stay for recess or at ease for the next couple hours and wondering whether we'd be able to go out and eat whether than order off the floor and eat. Do you have any recommendations to give to the Membership on where they can eat right now, since we're not doing anything at all and we do have some business that we could conceivably conduct in the next couple of days?"
"Well, Springfield does not have an issue of Michelin as to where one might stop for a good meal, but... and I have no recommendations for you, Mr. Tate."
"So, that means... are we going to continue to be at... at this ease right now?"
"Mr. Tate, we're in Session. We're in Session. The Gentleman from Dupage, Mr. McCracken, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"To acknowledge, Mr. Speaker, Secretary of State, Jim Edgar, who's on the Republican side of the aisle.
Secretary Edgar."
"Thank you. We do see... we welcome you, Mr. Secretary of State, and realize that while you are the Secretary of State, the most important office you've held is being a Representative in the General Assembly. Ms. Breslin in the Chair."
"...Recognizes Representative McCracken. For what reason do you rise, Sir?" 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 145th Legislative Day
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. December 2, 1986 Our side of the aisle is very fortunate today. The Constitutional Officers are all over here. Secret... Secretary... Attorney General Neil Hartigan right here..."
"Welcome."
"...Moving forward on the CHIPS program."
"And Secretary Edgar is here as well. Welcome, Sir. Okay. To Jim Edgar. Ladies and Gentlemen. Ladies and Gentlemen, we are going to the Order of Motions on Supplemental Calendar #1. The Bill appearing there is Senate Bill 1699. Representative Greiman is recognized on a Motion. Representative Greiman."
"Thank you, Speaker, I would move that the appropriate rule be waived to allow Senate Bill 1699 to be heard on the Order of Second Reading, Second Day. Has the Clerk read the Motion?"
"Mr. Clerk, does the Motion need to be read?"
"No, it does not need to be read. The Gentleman has made a Motion, Ladies and Gentlemen, to move Senate Bill 1699 to the Order of Second Reading, Second Legislative Day. Is there any discussion? Hearing no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the House move Senate Bill 1699 to the Order of Second Reading, Second Legislative Day?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Bill is moved to the Order of Second Reading, Second Legislative Day. Read the Bill on Second, Mr. Clerk."
"Senate Bill 1699, a Bill for an Act to create the Comprehensive Health Insurance Plan Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative 5 145th Legislative Day Parcells."
"Representative Parcells. Representative Parcells."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill has come to us very quickly for passage and there may be good reason for that, but we are sent here as guardians of the public purse in addition to other things, and with all of the diseases that would be covered by this, new diseases that we hear of every day, this is wonderful, wonderful coverage. At 1500 dollars, we have a stop loss. The point of my saying this is that the cost of this could be 50 or a 100,000,000 dollars. I present this Bill that we will match those premiums dollar for dollar. We will pay 100 percent out of the General Fund as a way of controlling. At least in the first year or two that we are making payouts, it will be a way to control those expenditures because we should be fiscally responsible and prudent. I want it understood that I do care about the people who need insurance who cannot get it. I am not sure that writing this kind of insurance policy is the only way to do that for them. I would suggest that we accept this Amendment so that we have some kind of a cost control on what this Bill will cost us."
"The Lady has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1699. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Greiman."
"Thank you, Speaker. I would rise in opposition to Amendment #1. We, indeed, have many controls built into this... the fabric of this structure at this point. First, we have the time sequence between now and the effective date of the Bill, which is really a year from now, when the first policies will be, in fact, issued. We have that time limitation to determine what would be appropriate 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 145th Legislative Day December 2, 1986 parameters for it, that's number one. Number two, in the first years, there will be almost... it's quite clear that everyone who has looked at this has suggested that there will be no overrun at all, that overruns, if there are to be at all, will be in the out years. Now, to limit that at this point, this far away, and this obscure would be to curtail this program and to trivialize this program, if you will, to tie it into those premiums in that way. Accordingly. I think would be bad public policy for us at this moment to try and divine something like this, and I think it would be... it would really strike at the very gut of the Bill and it would, in fact, destroy the effectiveness of this Bill. I suggest, therefore, that we defeat this Amendment."
"Representative Ewing, on the Amendment."
"Madam Speaker, I want to speak to a later Amendment, I'm sorry."
"Very good. Representative McCracken, on the Amendment."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise in opposition to the Amendment as well. The Bill provides for a thirty... 135 percent premium payment as compared to a premium payment in the private sector if coverage were afforded to a person under this plan. So, I think we have come to a responsible level of personal participation by that minimum requirement of the individual that he contribute not less than 135 percent of that otherwise applicable premium. In addition, this pool is set up to be self-sustaining. We understand that there are some costs involved here, but reaching into the General Revenue Fund is only done if the pool has exhausted itself, and there is no indication at this point that that necessarily would happen. I think that we should keep the Amendments off the Bill and move it 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 145th Legislative Day to Third Reading."
December 2, 1986 "There being no further discussion... Excuse me. The Gentleman from Coles, Representative Weaver, on the Amendment." "Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in support of this Amendment. The argument needs to be made that we're guardians of the public purse and there is no control on the amount of money that this program could cost the State of Illinois. I was initially told that the insurance industry has fixed their experience of loss at around just under 200,000,000 dollars. That will far exceed the premiums that we see in the first year. I urge you to take a look at where your tax money is coming from and what good it's going to do and at least offer us some containment of the cost of this program until we get an accurate experience as to what it's going to cost the state. Thank you."
"The Lady from Cook, Representative Stern."
"Madam Speaker and Members of the House. I think this is not a timely Amendment. I think we need to have an experienced factor to deal with before we start trying to cap the benefits. I think if our... the beneficiaries of these policies are going to get treatment, the doctors involved are going to have to be assured that the State of Illinois will stand behind it. I object to the Amendment."
"The Gentleman from McLean, Representative Klemm. Excuse me, McHenry."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I could understand the concerns of the Sponsor of the Amendments. We're supposed to be responsible for dollars and there's no amount that's been given, so they want to put some limits, and I can understand that and I think that's probably commendable; 8 145th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE December 2, 1986 but, if we had caps that were to expire in a particular fiscal year, say the seventh or eighth or tenth month, then those that have the other policies and they have a claim, would not be paid. It would seem to me that would be a betrayal if we were to say to some people that get your claims in early while the caps are still in force and then when we run out of money, we won't reimburse you, would be wrong public policy in my mind. So, as though I support the idea of trying to keep expenses to a minimum for the State of Illinois, it's my opinion that caps on a program such as this would be detrimental and we should not support it."
"There being no further discussion, Representative Parcells, to close."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I think that it... as the guardian of the public purse, we owe this to our taxpayers. We must help those people who need this coverage; but, on the other hand, this could be a 100,000,000 dollars. We have no caps at all. We are making this an entitlement program by saying anybody who spends over 1500 dollars is going to be covered. This isn't what they're asking for. They're asking for catastrophe insurance and we're going to cost the taxpayers of this state a great deal of money to cover this. And I would suggest that you vote 'aye' on this Amendment."
"The question is, 'Shall House Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1699 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 20 voting 'aye', 86 voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present', and the Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 145th Legislative Day Parcells."
"Representative Parcells."
"Please withdraw Amendment #2. December 2, 1986
"Withdraw Amendment #2. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Parcells."
"Representative Parcells. Withdraw Amendment #3. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Weaver."
"Representative Weaver. Representative Weaver."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is simply a dollar cap on the amount that we'll fund the state share of this program for the same basic reasons that Representative Parcells Bill addressed the problem of cost overrun. What we're authorizing without some kind of a cap, is an open ended Bill that will pay as much and as many claims as comes in. That could amount to two, three, 400,000,000 dollars. We don't have any idea at this point how much it's going to cost the State of Illinois. And if you can go back and Face your taxpayers and tell them that you voted for a Bill that had absolutely no limits on it in terms of their tax money, I don't think you'll make it back here in another two years. We cannot routinely approve the cost without some kind of level of control and if... a previous speaker mentioned one of the problems that if we have a cap on it and someone submits a claim that won't be paid, we go through supplemental appropriations here on a daily basis, and that doesn't mean that we can't go back and refund it. What this cap will do is require that if there is an overrun, that a concerted effort be made to explain why there was an 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 145th Legislative Day December 2, 1986 overrun, why the estimates didn't meet the expenditures. And I ask for your approval for this Motion."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #4 to Senate Bill 1699. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Greiman."
"Thank you, Speaker. If this General Assembly met every ten years, I suspect this would be a fine Amendment, but we meet, it seems once a year, it's, you know, annually, but it seems like it's continually. We are in Session. There will be not one dime, not one nickel given to anyone under this Bill unless it is appropriated annually by the General Assembly. It is not like giving a bonding power to some agency at some astronomical figure and only hearing about it years later. We have constant annual oversight on this agency. There will be not one penny distributed that we do not authorize. Now, to suggest that fifty-five or fifty-five or two hundred and fifty-five is meaningful today is foolish. It sets in stone something that we... there is no reason for. It also by the way... we could change it any time we want with no Extraordinary Majority. So, what are we doing here, really? We're doing a nullity, and I suspect that on this kind of important legislation we ought not to do some kind of grandstand item. And as far as going back to my constituents, I can sure as heck go back to them and tell them that I supported this Bill for people who have not had an opportunity to have... have the kind of health care that all Americans should have because I was afraid of some future General Assembly. I trust our process. I trust this Assembly to do the right thing this year and in future years. This Amendment should be defeated."
"The Gentleman from Livingston, Representative Ewing." 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 145th Legislative Day
December 2, 1986 "Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise in support of Amendment #4. I think it's quite important for our constituents and for us as a Body to set a policy as to the total cost of this program. We all know that whatever action we take here today can be changed by a later General Assembly, but I think we need to speak that this is not an openended program. While many of us who support this Amendment may well vote for the Bill, I think it's a better Bill if it has an outside limitation on it. I would urge people on this side and on that side of the aisle who we know are interested in this legislation to support this Amendment. It will make it a better Bill today. We can if we need to in later years change the amount of the limitation. I would urge your support for this Amendment."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative O'Connell."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. A question of the Sponsor."
"State your question."
"Representative, is 55,000,000 dollars a pallatable amount for you to accept as an appropriation for this particular measure?"
"Yes."
"You would... you would acceed then to spending $55,000,000 dollars a year for this legislation?"
"Up to."
"Well, I would submit, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, that I am not necessarily prepared to spend 55,000,000 dollars a year on this legislation. I think rather what I propose to do is to support the legislation as it stands and accept it as a measure that we can address year in and year out and to take fiscally responsible measures to prevent an over expenditure of monies on such a 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 145th Legislative Day December 2, 1986 measure. We know that the measure has substantive advantages to those people that are without ability to get insurance. I am not prepared in 1986, however, to set ac ceiling in the amount of which the Sponsor of this Amendment is prepared to spend today and expect that that will be acceptable to my constituents. I think it's a fiscally irresponsible act on the part that set a cap of $55,000,000 dollars. The essence of this legislation is that we will be able to affect a wash, if you will, by taking people off the rolls of public aid and place them on a level of ability to get insurance where they can put in and we can supplement, from a General Assembly standpoint, the amount of money necessary to obtain the insurance. We are not giving a carte blanche expenditure without necessarily other returns by removing people from public aid. I think that this Amendment is an irresponsible act and I would suggest that the Amendment be defeated."
"The Gentleman from Fulton, Representative Homer."
"Thank you. Thank you, Madam Speaker, and Ladies and Gentlemen. I rise in opposition to the Amendment for many of the reasons the former speaker mentioned, and to point out the practical effect of what this cap would do. Picture yourself going to your own insurance company, your own health insurance company and being asked to pay a premium, they're being told that the company had imposed the ceiling on the amount of deficit it might sustain in any one year. Would you be willing to pay a premium under those kind of restrictions? Of course, you would not, and neither would the people who might well benefit by participating in the CHIPS program. This is a smoke screen. This Amendment will do nothing. Why, because the effective date of the legislation is July 1 of 1987. The 13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 145th Legislative Day December 2, 1986 panel will not even be in place, nor the program operational until after January 1 of 1988. The Economic and Fiscal Commission has projected that there can be no more than a 10,000,000 dollar deficit for the year FY '88, a 10,000,000 dollar deficit at most by Economic and Fiscal Commission and that doesn't even take into account the windfall that we will... or the savings that we will realize as a result of those people who are now off of public aid and a part of this pool risk insurance program. So that, in effect, it is very probable and very possible and very likely that there will be no cost to the State of Illinois, that whatever deficit there is in this program will be offset by a corresponding savings to the taxpayers in public aid distributions. Therefore, it's improvident of us to act upon a measure before the facts are in. Let's pass the Bill. Let's give it a chance to operate. Let's take a look at its performance after we have a period of experience to look at and, if, in fact, there is a need to make a substantive cap at that time, we can do it, and we also, of course, maintain our control through the appropriation process to limit by appropriation the amount of money that will go to fund this program, but let's not now, in a substantive form, impose an arbitrary figure of 55,000,000 dollars which will wreck the program that's SO needed by so many people."
"The Gentleman from Peoria, Representative Tuerk."
"Madam Speaker..."
"Please clear the aisle in front of Representative Tuerk."
"I have an inquiry of the Chair, please."
"State your inquiry."
"Would you please ask... would you please ask everybody 14 145th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE December 2, 1986 that has spoken on this Amendment to repeat their speeches. I haven't heard a word that's been said?"
"Representative Tuerk, I will not ask them to do that, but your point is very well taken. Ladies and Gentlemen, the noise level on the floor is very difficult for Members to watch and participate in debate. Those Members not entitled... those people not entitled to the House floor, please leave now so that the Members can continue with the debate on a very important measure. There being no further discussion, Representative Weaver, to close."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. The original Sponsor of the Bill when he spoke indicated that we can control the cost of this program by appropriations, how much would they appropriate? Would it not also provide the same limitations to the program as a cap? If you only appropriate 50,000,000 dollars and the expenses go over 50,000,000 dollars, then what do you do? My Amendment would cause us to have a cap in justification before the fact, not after the fact. A previous speaker also indicated that it was irresponsible for us to place a 55,000,000 dollar cap on this Bill, but yet turned around and said he would vote for a Bill without any limits, without any experience and without any means of control of the cost to the taxpayers of Illinois. I maintain we have to have some kind of limits, even though we don't have any specific experience as to what the costs are going to be so that we can come back and set some realistic limits that the taxpayers of the State of Illinois can live with. And I ask for your approval for this Motion."
"The question is, Shall Amendment #4 be adopted? All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have 15 145th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE December 2, 1986 all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 17 voting 'aye', 87 voting 'no', and none voting 'present', and the Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"No further Amendments. Third Reading. Representative Greiman. Very good. The Bill will remain on the Order of Third Reading. Ladies and Gentlemen, we will go to the Order of House Resolutions under the Order of Motions. On page five on your Calendar appears House Resolution 1684, Representative McGann. Will you read the Motion, Mr. Clerk?"
Clerk Leone "Pursuant to Rule 77(a), I move to discharge Committee on Human Services from further consideration of House Resolution 1684, suspend Rule 77(b), relating to the Calendar requirements. advance to the Order of Second Reading, First Legislative Day, Speaker's Table."
"Representative McGann, on the Motion."
"Thank you. Madam Speaker and Members of the Assembly. On House Resolution 1684, I ask that the Special House Committee, which is... this Resolution is in the Human Services Committee presently, that that Committee be discharged and I have checked with the opposite side of the aisle to Representative Ryder, a Cosponsor of this Resolution, and I would ask that this Committee... Human Services be discharged and be placed on the Speaker's Calendar."
"The Gentleman has moved pursuant to Rule 77(a) to discharge Human Services from further consideration of this Bill and suspend Rule 77(b) relating to the Calendar requirements and advance it to the Order of the Speaker's Table. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall the Motion be adopted?" All those in 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 145th Legislative Day December 2, 1986 favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have, and the Motion is adopted with the Majority vote of the Membership. Representative McGann."
"Madam Speaker and Members of the Assembly, I would ask for immediate consideration of House Resolution 1684."
"The Gentleman has asked for leave for immediate consideration on House Resolution 1684. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall the Rule be suspended so that the Gentleman can have immediate consideration of this Resolution?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Gentleman's Motion is granted. Proceed, Representative McGann... Excuse me, can you read the Resolution?"
"Madam Speaker and Members of the Assembly..."
"Resolved, by the House of Representatives of the 84th General Assembly of the State of Illinois, that the Special House Committee on Developmental Care created by House Resolution 1139 is directed to file a report with its findings and recommendations with the Clerk of the House before May 1, 1987."
"Representative McGann."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the Assembly. The Special House Committee on Developmental Care, which was created by House Resolution 1139, was directed to file a report by December of 1986. This Resolution is asking for an extension of that report to show its findings and recommendations with the Clerk of the House before May 1 of 1987. This Resolution has been cosponsored by Representative Tom Ryder, it has been checked with the Republican side of the aisle. They were most cooperative in supporting this House Resolution, and I would ask the 17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 145th Legislative Day December 2, 1986 House to generally approve of this HR 1684."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of House Resolution 1684. Is there any discussion? Hearing no discussion? The question is, Shall House Resolution 1684 be adopted? All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Resolution is adopted. Representative O'Connell, for what reason do you rise?"
"Madam Speaker, may I have leave to reject the First Conference Committee for House Bill 1103 and request that a Second Conference Committee be appointed?"
"Is it on the Calendar and if so, where? Representative O'Connell. Representative O'Connell, I understand that the Bill has to go through Rules before we can act upon it because it had been tabled, so we will get back to you. We are working on developing a Rules Committee meeting right now. Representative Matijevich is recognized for purposes of a Motion. Representative Matijevich."
"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I would ask leave of the House and use of the Attendance Roll Call to suspend the rule prohibiting a Committee meeting... Committee meeting while we are in Session for the purpose of the Rules Committee to meet in the Speaker's Conference Room immediately for consideration of Bills that have been posted, and I ask leave of the House for that purpose."
"The Gentleman has leave to suspend the appropriate rule so that the Rules Committee can meet while the House is in Session. Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing no objection, the Gentleman has leave with use of the Attendance Roll Call for that purpose. Ladies and Gentlemen, those of you who are on the Rules Committee, proceed immediately to the Speaker's Conference Room to 18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 145th Legislative Day December 2, 1986 consider those Bills before the Rules Committee now. Proceed immediately to the Speaker's Conference Room. Representative Giglio in the Chair."
"Committee Reports."
"The Committee on Rules has met and pursuant to Rule 29(c) 3, the following Bills have been rule exempt on December 2, 1986: Senate Bills #416, 1004, 1164, 1398, 1442 and 2116. Signed, John Matijevich, Chairman."
"Alright. Ladies and Gentlemen, we are about to adjourn. Our process will be to adjourn the Regular Session of this General Assembly until tomorrow at 11:30, and then we will just... and when we finish that, we will go into the Special Session and we will adjourn that until tomorrow too. However, I would make this announcement that Democratic Members who are... who will be Members of the next General Assembly, please meet immediately and directly after adjournment in Room 114. Immediately after adjournment in Room 114. Thank you. And on the... and Mr... the Majority Leader, Mr. McPike, the Gentleman from Madison. Mr. McPike moves that the House stand adjourned until the hour of 11:30 tomorrow. All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the House stands adjourned until the hour of 11:30 tomorrow. The Third Special Session of the 84th General Assembly is now in order. Mr. McPike moves that the... Mr. McPike asks leave of the House that the Roll Call of the Regular Session stand as the Roll Call for the Third Special Session of the General Assembly... Attendance Roll Call. And on that, is there any objection? No objection. A unanimous leave. Mr. McPike, the Gentleman from Madison, the Majority Leader, moves that the... that the Third Special Session of the 84th General Assembly stand adjourned until the hour of 19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 145th Legislative Day December 2, 1986 12:00 tomorrow. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Third Special Session of the 84th General Assembly stands adjourned until the hour of 12:00 tomorrow." 20 12/19/86 10:15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX DECEMBER 02, 1986 SB-1699 SECOND READING SB-1699 MOTION HR-1684 MOTION HR-1684 MOTION PAGE 1 PAGE 5 PAGE 5 PAGE 16 PAGE 17 HOUSE TO ORDER SUBJECT MATTER REPRESENTATIVE GREIMAN PAGE 1 PRAYER M. C. JOHNSON PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 1 COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 2 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 2 DEATH RESOLUTIONS PAGE 2 COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 19 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 19 THIRD SPECIAL SESSION IN ORDER PAGE 19 THIRD SPECIAL SESSION STAND ADJOURNED PAGE 19