"The hour of 10:30 having arrived, the House will be in Session. Members will be at their seats. Those not entitled to the floor will withdraw. The Chaplain for today will be the Reverend Richard Naye, Pastor of the Pleasant Grove Baptist Church of Springfield. Reverend Maye is a guest of Representative Michael Curran. Hould the guests in the gallery please rise for the invocation?
Reverend Maye."
"Let us pray. Most holy and wise Father, we are approaching Your throne of grace again on the behalf of these men and women whom You have chosen as ministers of Your government, Your peace, Your administration and Your justice for all. They each seek Your face for an enlightenment, a wisdom, a practicality, an earnestness, a decisiveness, a fairness that will astound the most prudent of persons endow each of these Legislators with Your justice. Oh God, SO that as in the words of Dr. Martin Luther King. Your Nation will be one of eagerly adopt the principles, precepts, and examples, these, Your servants have chosen. And also in the words of the immortal Dr. King, I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture, for their minds and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. I believe that what self-centered men and women have torn down, other centered men and women can build up. In the Name of our sinless Master, we pray. Amen."
"The Gentleman from McLean, Mr. Ropp, will lead us in the Pledge to the Flag."
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 2nd Legislative Day January 15, 1987 for all."
"Roll Call for Attendance. Mr. Hensel, the Gentleman from DuPage, for what purpose do you seek recognition? Mr. Hensel?"
"It seems that my 'present' button isn't working."
"Alright. Alright, the Clerk will take note of that."
"Thank you."
"Mr. Matijevich, are there any excused absences on the Democratic side?"
"Mr. Speaker, there are none on this side of the aisle."
"Mr. Piel, are there any excused absences on the Republican side?"
"No, Speaker, there are no excused absences today."
"Alright. Mr. Clerk, take the record. Have you noted, Mr. Clerk, Mr. Hensel's 'present' is apparently not... Alright, fine. Alright. Accordingly, there's 115 Members having answered to the Call of the Quorum, a quorum is present. We'll just stand at ease for a few moments. While we're waiting, Ladies and Gentlemen, the Clerk will advise us as to the availability of some of the chairs that you may wish to have in your offices. Mr. Clerk."
"The blue leather chairs that Members have in their office in the Stratton Building are passed out by seniority. In the last General Assembly all Members with four terms or more was authorized a blue leather chair. This General Assembly we will have five chairs available. They are the chair that was assigned to Representative McMaster; the chair that Representative Oblinger had; the chair of Representative Vitek; oh, the chair that Representative Bullock had... and the chair that Ms. 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 2nd Legislative Day January 15, 1987 Alexander had. Authorized to be in the lottery for these five chairs are the Members presently in their fourth term. They consist of Representative Deuchler, Representative Klemm, Representative Mays, Representative O'Connell, Representative Saltsman, Representative Tate, Representative Turner and Representative Olson. There are eight Members in fourth term and five chairs available. I've got five cards with the... or I've got eight cards with the Members' names. If some disinterested... if some disinterested person wants to call... come up and draw five cards, I will announce who will... You don't look disinterested. Okay. I've shuffled the cards. The cards are all... the cards are all faced down. So, one at a time draw a card. The... these are the winners. The first card is Art Turner. Art Turner. The second winner is... the second winner is Representative Klemm. The third winner is Representative Tate. The fourth winner is Representative Myron Olson and the fifth winner is Representative Jeffrey Mays. If... In this General Assembly, if any more chairs become available, they will be given out by lottery between Representative Saltsman, O'Connell and Deuchler. Thank you."
"The Democrats might want to have a different person picking for the lottery. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Madigan."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would rise to announce the Members of the Democratic Leadership team. And the Majority Leader will be Representative James McPike. The Assistant Majority Leaders will be Representative Carol Moseley Braun, Representative E. J. Zeke Giorgi, Representative Alan Greiman, Representative John Matijevich. The Majority Whips will be Representative Peg Breslin, Representative Ralph Capparelli. And the 3 2nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE January 15, 1987 Conference Chair will be Representative Frank Giglio. Many Changes. Thank you. Mr. Speaker."
"Ladies and Gentlemen, if I could have your attention, we are about to begin the selection of seats, in a little while. Yes, Mr. Terzich, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, on the selection of seats, are there going to be any areas designated for smokers and non-smokers? I believe the last... the last Session we had the first three rows here or somewhere..."
"I think we... we have nothing in our rules. I think we informally did make that provision, but we have nothing in our rules that addresses that issue."
"Well, I believe there are a number of Members who would like to select their seats based upon whether or not they're with a smoker or a non-smoker, and I was wondering if that... that..."
"Well, again, we have no rule that responds to that, Representative Terzich. And I... But we have a lot of good will, so I suspect that Members will be very respectful to each other in that regard."
"Well, the only ones that have the advantage are the new Members since they... they can select last to see who they're going to sit next to. So, I think that... you know, something should be made as... aware whether or not the person can have, you know, that type of an election."
"I think this dialogue itself will alert the new Members to the fact that there are Members here who are concerned with that issue."
"Well, I'm happy to say that Representative Capparelli does not smoke and I will be sitting next to my friend, a great leader and a non-smoker."
"He probably has other vices, but alright." 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE January 15, 1987 2nd Legislative Day
"Yes."
"Ladies and Gentlemen, we are now about to select the seats as soon as the Clerk returns to the podium. I want to caution you, if you are moving your seat, do not, I repeat, do not remove your drawers. Remove the contents... yes, thank you. Thank you very much. It's certainly nice to have tour folks with us today. Do not remove your drawers because the locks are... the locks are keyed in to those particular seats and if you remove them, we will not be able to provide you with keys to those drawers... so, it is very critical. Remove the contents, but not the drawers themselves. Yes, Mr. Leverenz, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"I was going to inquire of the Chair whether we were going to do it now, but it might be more interesting to get a parliamentary inquiry and get the Parliamentarian's explanation of drawers."
"Mr. Leverenz, he would probably tell us we're operating with no drawers. Alright, Mr. Clerk, you want to proceed with the selection process?"
"To select your desks on the House Floor, the names will be called out by seniority in a random manner. When I call your name, please come up to the podium, pick up the ticket and take it back and peel off the back and then stick it to your voting console of the desk that you select. This will let everybody know that that desk has been taken. So, if everybody will get these on their voting consoles, this can move very quickly. We start with the nine termers, and that is Terzich, Laurino and Flinn."
"Ar. Terzich, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Yes, I... you know, I have a selection of my seat and I'm wondering from the Chair whether or not is there any 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL AS SEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 2nd Legislative Day January 15, 1987 specific area that can be set aside for no smokers?"
"I would advise that the... that the Democratic side at least... the three... the... presently the people who are occupying those seats, and assuming that there is no change, no significant change, that all of them are non-smokers, Mr. Terzich."
"Then are you telling me that the first..."
"I advise you..."
"... three or four rows are going to be a no smoking area?"
"What I said to you was that we have... there have been indications made to the Clerk that the people who occupy those, and who will occupy those are non-smokers. Now, we... our rules did not provide for any variants from seniority, and that's all I can tell you."
"Well, then could I make a Motion or something that we do have a certain area set aside. I mean, I..."
"No, the Motion would be out of order because it would require a rule change and we've had some discussions about changing the rules already this Session."
"Well, then as a... as a Member with top seniority, then could I hold off on the selection of my seat until after the end so I can find out whether or not there is going to be a smoker or a non-smoker?"
"You would be at risk, Mr. Terzich. If you did that, you would be at risk."
"At risk of what?"
"Of not following your seniority."
"Well, does that mean that I... if someone has my seat that I can take him out because of my seniority?"
"Mr. Terzich, perhaps... the Clerk has made a poll of all the people around you. Maybe you ought to come up to the podium in a little while and we could finish this 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 2nd Legislative Day dialogue and begin the seat selection. January 15, 1987 Why don't you come on up."
"I'll give you a no smoking pen."
"Here's your ticket, Mr. Terzich." "Proceed. Mr. Clerk." "Representative Terzich. We're now down to eight termers and as I draw the names randomly, I will number them in order of their draw. So, if there is any ties, it will be the order of draw that gets the choice. There's two in the eight termers and the first one is Representative Farley and the second is Representative McAuliffe. Will someone take care of Representative McAuliffe's choice? We're now down to seven terms and I'll repeat... I will number these as we make the random draw and they will have the choice. First one is John Dunn, and the second is Doug Huff. The third is Ted Leverenz, and the fourth is LeRoy Van Duyne and the fifth is Richard Mautino. The sixth is Richard Mulcahey. Must have been a Democrat year. Seventh is Hyvetter Younge. Eighth is Bruce Richmond, and ninth is Helen Satterthwaite. We're all Democrats. Are the seventh termers ready for us to start with the sixth term? Everybody have their seats? Sixth terms. On sixth terms the first is Tim Johnson. Tim Johnson. Is someone taking care of the seat selection for Tim? Here he comes. Second is Terry Steczo, and the third is Jesse White. Fourth is Woods Bowman, and fifth is Sam Wolf. Have the sixth termers completed selecting their desks? Are we ready for fifth termers? Alright, fifth termers. First is Jim Rea. Second is Virginia Frederick. Third is Gary Hannig. Virginia Frederick. Fourth is John Cullerton. Fi Fifth is Al Ronan. Sixth is Gordon Ropp. Seventh is Myron Kulas. Eighth is Barbara Flynn Currie. Is someone taking care of Barbara Flynn Currie? Here she 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 2nd Legislative Day January 15, 1987 comes. Ninth is Robert Krska. I heard him say right here. Here he is. Tenth is Lee Preston. Eleventh is James Keane. Twelfth is Ellis Levin and last but not least... Piel is the Leadership, isn't he? Put a twelve on there. I forgot too. Have all the fifth term Members selected their desks? Everybody ready? For fourth term Members,the first is Richard Klemm. Second is Susan Deuchler. Third is Don Saltsman. Fourth is Art Turner. Fifth is John O'Connell, and sixth is Myron Olson. Are all the fourth term Members finish selecting their seats? Are we ready to go with third term Members? Alright. Third term Members. David Harris. You lucky son of a gun. Second, John Countryman. Third is Michael Curran. Fourth is Margaret Parcells. Fifth is Jay Ackerman. Sixth is John McNamara. Seventh is Don Hensel. Eighth is William Peterson. Ninth is Robert Leflore. Tenth is Andy McGann. Eleventh is Mary Cowlishaw. Twelfth is Ron Wait. Thirteenth, Ms. Hojcik. Fourteenth is Ralph Barger, and fifteenth is Nelson Rice. Okay. Sixteenth is Tom Homer. Seventeenth is William Shaw. Eighteenth is Charles Pangle. Nineteenth is Joseph Berrios. Twenty, Joe Brunsvold. Is someone taking care of Joe Brunsvold? Twenty-one, Bod DeJaegher. Twenty-two, Sam Panayotovich. Twenty-three, James Kirkland. Twenty-four, Ms. Didrickson. Twenty-five, Larry Hicks, and twenty-seven, (sic - twenty-six) Bernie Pedersen. Have all third termers selected their desks yet? Everybody ready to start with two termers? Alright. Two termers. First is Ron Stephens. Second, Karen Hasara. Third is Kent Slater. Fourth is Lou Jones. Fifth is Jim Stange. Sixth is Robert Olson. Seventh is Michael Weaver. Eighth is Anthony Young. Ninth is Jim DeLeo. Tenth is Charles Morrow. Eleventh is John Daley. Twelfth is Grace Mary Stern. Thirteenth is Mary Flowers. Fourteenth is Larry Hennlund. 8 2nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE January 15, 1987 Fifteenth is Calvin Sutker. Sixteen, Jen Hartinez. Seventeenth, William Black. Eighteen, David Phelps. Nineteen, Linda Williamson. Twenty, Charles Goforth. Twenty-one, Charles Hartke. Twenty-two, Jack Kubik, and twenty-three, Robert Regan. If everyone will affix their tags to their voting consoles so that the freshmen Members will be able to identify the open seats. All the two term Members completed selecting their desks? Is there anyone that hasn't selected their desks yet, two term Members? We all ready for fresh... It will be another minute. I'll keep shuffling. Yes. Yeah, I'm shuffling them. What kind of a guy do you think I am? Permission granted. Tell them all. No, I'm shuffling. It's a legal shuffle. Are we ready? Are the two termers finished? Not yet. I've got all my secret codes on there. Have all second termers selected their seats yet? Is... was that an affirmative? All second termers have completed selecting their seats. We're ready to go with first termers. Alright, Number one is Bob Bugielski. Number two is Todd Sieben. Number three is Curt Granberg. Number four, David Hultgren. Number five, Honique Davis. Number six, Gerald Weller. Number seven, Paul Davis. I'm sorry. Paul Williams. Number eight, Edward Petka, and Number nine, Delores Doederlein. If everyone will please be sure and affix their name tag to their voting console so that the electrician will be able to identify your desk and correctly wire the voting machine. That's alright, Jay, you can leave that there. Have all freshman Members selected their seats? Is anybody left that does not have their seat selected? Everybody's done. Thank you."
"... and Introduction of Bills."
"Introduction and First Reading of House Bills. House Bill 87, Hartke, a Bill for an Act in relationship to 9 2nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE January 15, 1987 certain public exhibitions. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 88, Olson Virginia Frederick, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Liquor Control Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 89, O'Connell, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Municipal Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 90, Phelps, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act in relationship to the use of an assumed name in the conduct and transaction of business in this state. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 91, Olson, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Drainage Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bil1 92, Curran, a Bill for an Act in relationship to abused and neglected children. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 93, Curran, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act creating the Department of Children and Family Services, codifying the powers and duties in repealing Acts herein named. House Bill 94, Curran, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Abused and Neglected Child Reporting Act. First Reading of the 3ill. House Bill 95, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Abused and Neglected Child Reporting Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 96, Curran, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act creating the Department of Children and Family Services, codifying its powers and duties. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 97, Curran, a Bill for an Act to add Sections of an Act creating the Department of Children and Family Services, codifying its powers and duties. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 98, Curran, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Abused and Neglected Child Reporting Act. First Reading of the 3ill. House Bill 99, Curran, a Bill for an Act in relationship to the child abuse and neglect. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 100, White, a Bill for an Act in relationship to the 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 2nd Legislative Day January 15, 1987 Acquired... House Bill 100, White, a Bill for an Act in relationship to the Acquired Immuned Deficiency Syndrome. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 101, Capparelli et al, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 102, Tate, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 103, Tate, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 104, Stern Williams Pederson, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Intergovernmental Cooperation Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 105, Stern Myron Olson Countryman, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 106, Klemm, a Bill for an Act to add Sections of an Act to acquire prompt payments by the State of Illinois for goods and services. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 107, Krska et al, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 108, Capparelli et al, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 109, Capparelli et al, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the Metropolitan Fair and Exposition Authority Reconstruction Fund to the Metropolitan Fair and Exposition Authority. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 110, Rice, a Bill for an Act to add Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 111, Rice, a Bill for an Act to add Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 112, Shaw et al, a Bill for an Act in relationship to obtaining housing for homeless persons. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 113, 11 2nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE January 15, 1987 offered by Representative Stange, a Bill for an Act to acquire reserved seating for certain live entertainment performances. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 114, Terzich et al, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relationship to workers' compensation and occupational diseases. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 115, Terzich et al, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill."
"First Readings of Constitutional Amendments."
"Introduction and First Reading of Constitutional Amendment #1, offered by Representative Satterthwaite. Resolved, by the House of Representatives of the 85th General Assembly of the State of Illinois, the Senate concurring herein, that there shall be submitted to the electors of the state for adoption or rejection at the general election next occurring at least six months after the adoption of this Resolution, a Proposition to amend Section 1 of Article III of the Illinois Constitution will read as follows: Article III. Suffrage and Elections. Section 1, Voting Qualifications. Every United States citizens who has attained the age of 18 or any other voting age required by the United States for voting in state elections, and who has been a permanent resident of this state for at least 30 days next preceding any election, shall have the right to vote at such election. The General Assembly, by law, may establish registration requirements and require permanent residence in an election district not to exceed 30 days prior to an election. The General Assembly may... by law, may establish shorter residency requirements for voting for President and Vice-President of the United States. This Amendment takes effect immediately upon approval by the electors. First Reading of this Constitutional Amendment." 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 2nd Legislative Day January 15, 1987
"Ladies and Gentlemen, the Chair would like to advise the Body that pursuant to Rule 86fc), the Clerk has received a filing of an election contest entitled Ray A. Christensen, petitioner versus Gerald C. (Jerry) Weller, respondent, and that the Speaker and Hinority Leaders have filed appointments to the Committee on Elections, and additionally, the Speaker of the House has referred the contest in accordance with Rule 85(d) to the Committee on Elections pursuant to our rules. Thank you. While we're at ease, Ladies and Gentlemen, let me advise you that we will... that on February the 2nd and 3rd, we will be having Perfunctory Sessions and that we will return for a Regular Session on the 4th of February at 12:00 so that you can adjust your schedules accordingly. We will not have a full Regular Session on the 3rd as originally noted, but we'll have our first Regular Session on the 4th of February. Prior to that, there will be perfunctories. Thank you. I don't believe we've been scheduled to be in on the 5th, SO it's not my understanding that we would be. If we're not scheduled, we're not adding a day. Yes, the Gentleman from Peoria, Hr. Tuerk, for the purpose of an announcement."
"Mr. Speaker, while we have a short lull here, there will be a Republican Conference 15 minutes after adjournment in Room 118. Republican Conference, 15 minutes after adjournment. Thank you."
"Alright. So, that 15 minutes after the adjournment in Room 118, a Republican Conference has been scheduled. Thanks. Mr. Tuerk. Ladies and Gentlemen, the... in order to speed the process up, if the Democratic freshman would come to the Speaker's Conference Room behind the podium for the purposes of office and secretary selection immediately. It will be appreciated. Assignment, yes. At this time, Democratic freshman. 13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 2nd Legislative Day January 15, 1987 Democratic freshman. Mr. McCracken, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"I wonder if we could maybe adjourn the House, the Republicans want to have a short conference... and then we'll pick our offices."
"Well, they have already announced that... you already announced that you were going to..."
"Well, why are we in Session why you go pick your offices? I'm not trying to start a fight, but what's the point?"
"I understand, I guess we're waiting... there's a... there's a Supplemental coming out apparently, and there's one or two items of Business. That's the only reason for it."
"What are they?"
"That's the only reason."
"What are they?"
"Yes, Mr. Mautino, for what purpose do you seek recognition? Mr. Mautino. Calendar announcement."
"Calendar for January 15th is being distributed."
"Ladies and Gentlemen, we will be addressing a couple of matters and then we will be adjourning after those matters have been concluded. In the meantime, on the House Calendar for Thursday, January the 15th, 1987, on the Order of Motions appears House Resolution 17 on a Motion. Mr. Homer. Ms. Braun, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On Monday, the state will celebrate Dr. Martin Luther King's birthday anniversary, and I wanted, before we adjourn, to ask that we have a few moments to have an informal observance of his contribution to the State and to the world."
"Sure." 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 2nd Legislative Day
"Thank you."
"Of course. Alright, Mr. Homer, I recognize you. The Gentleman from Fulton, Mr. Homer."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. At this time, I would move pursuant to the appropriate rule to authorize the hearing of House Resolution 17 immediately and to bypass Committee."
"The Gentleman from Fulton, Mr. Homer, moves to... pursuant to Rule 41... 43(a) to bypass Committee and place this House Resolution 17 on the Order of the Speaker's Table for immediate consideration. And on that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken."
"Thank you... thank you, Mr. Speaker. A parliamentary inquiry."
"Yes, Mr. McCracken."
"Does this Motion require 71 votes to prevail?"
"Yes, this Motion does require 71 votes."
"Thank you. Ladies and Gentlemen, I stand in opposition to the Gentleman's Motion. What it seeks to do is bypass a subject matter Committee which would consider the Resolution on its merits and report to the House as a whole its findings thereon. I believe that more than most issues, this one is particularly appropriate for deliberative Committee action and that to avoid Committee, to bypass Committee, and ask for immediate consideration of a Motion which has been on our desk, or a Resolution which is complex and has been on our desk for only a short time, is not prudent. I, therefore, ask people to join me in opposition to the Motion."
"Further discussion on the Motion? Mr. Homer."
"Speaker, this matter is of grave importance to all the people of the State of Illinois, and it's been estimated 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 2nd Legislative Day January 15, 1987 that unless action is taken by the Illinois Commerce Commission promptly, that Illinois consumers throughout the State of Illinois will pay an additional 840,000,000 dollars a year to the utilities. That will be an excess of what the utilities require..."
"Excuse me. Mr. McCracken, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"A point of order, Mr. Speaker. The Gentleman is addressing the merits of the Resolution and not the Motion which is merely to bypass Committee."
"I think he's making a statement and giving his reasons for... in closing... Mr.... Mr.... Mr.... Mr. McCracken."
"Mr. Speaker, the issue is not the merits of the Resolution."
"Mr. McCracken, he is just giving the background, which he is allowed to do. He is not... I'm listening carefully... Mr. McCracken, let me finish, please. I'm about to rule on this, okay?"
"That's fine."
"I'm listening very carefully. We will hold his feet to the fire just like we will every other Member. Right now, he is in order."
"Speaker, I think it clear and being a realist, I understand the rules require 71 votes in order for this matter to be heard immediately. I also recognize that there are only 67 Members sitting on this side of the aisle upon who support I can at this time rely. And for that reason, in spite of the fact that each and every day that goes by that we don't take action on this Resolution... that, Mr. Speaker, that will mean that consumers will be paying an excess of what is rightfully to be paid."
"Excuse me, Mr... Mr. Homer. Mr.... To those 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 2nd Legislative Day January 15, 1987 unruly Members on this side of the aisle, it is obvious even to the cloudiest Member in this House, cloudiest, that the Gentleman is about to withdraw his Motion. I have not... no one is seeking recognition at this point. Mr. Homer, please proceed. I hope you will be given the courtesy to which you are entitled."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I very regrettably, because of the lack of cooperation with the other side of the aisle at this time, ask leave to withdraw the Motion with an assurance that this matter will be back on February 4th when we convene, and I would very much hope that at that time that those Members on the other side of the aisle who would oppose and obstruct the passage of the Resolution will reconsider and reaccess that position in light of what's best in for the consumers of the State of Illinois. And So I would, Mr. Speaker, at this time, ask leave reluctantly to withdraw my Motion."
"Motion is withdrawn. Excuse me, yes, for what purpose do you seek recognition, Mr. Johnson."
"On a point of personal privilege."
"Yes, Mr. Johnson."
"Alluded to the lack of cooperation on this side of the aisle, and the last I looked I was on this side of the aisle. I think that's an unfair characterization and I don't want..."
"That's not a point of personal privilege..."
"I think it is."
"That's goes beyond it, Ar... Mr. Daniels, for purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Courtesy to the Gentleman that he deserves as a Member of this body. When the Gentlemen on the other side of the aisle reflects a position, that is untrue because we have been working with our staff to try to accommodate a 17 2nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE January 15, 1987 Resolution of his request. We have made suggestion because he's trying to bypass Committee. He's trying to ramrod this through as you did try yesterday. We have tried to cooperate. We'll continue to try and do that."
"Mr. Daniels, I appreciate... the Chair appreciates your promise of cooperation as you have certainly in the past so often. I think the Gentleman's statement was one of a generic nature, just as your statements yesterday about fraud and deceit and... I didn't take that personally. And I'm sure that you Republicans have to learn to have a little thicker skin, yes, Sir. Alright, let's go on with the proceedings. Yes, Mr. Daniels, yes."
"Mr. Speaker, you are not entitled as a presiding officer to address matters. If you would like to go to the floor and state your peace..."
"I gave you my ruling, Sir."
"But, why don't you conduct this House..."
"That was my ruling."
"In the manner you're not supposed... in a manner you're supposed too."
"That was my ruling."
"Well, we will expect many of those during the next coming of Session. You know... you know, what we are going to be ready for. You have already advised us of how you're going to run this House. We will be prepared. I assure you."
"Yes, Mr. Johnson, on a point of order, Sir."
"My point of order is this, I was about to address the question of the characterization, unfairly this side of the aisle, as opposing consumers in the State of Illinois; everybody knows that's not the case in the media or..."
"That's not a point of order, Sir." 18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 2nd Legislative Day
"From this..." January 15, 1987
"State your point, Mr. Johnson, if you have a point."
"My point is... my point is that apparently you ruled, notwithstanding: the characterization of me and other Members of this side as being abstractionist. That that wasn't a point of personal privilege. I think it is under the rules and I want the bases for your ruling. Why isn't that a point of personal privilege?"
"My bases is, Sir, that the Gentleman's comment were relatively generic. If we are to have a 100..."
"Is that... is that the standard relative to gerenicity..."
"That is precisely, Sir. It is not a personal to you and we will now dispose of the matter. Yes, Mr. Huff, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, on a point of personal privilege. I just want to..."
"Be careful."
"I just want to remind the Members that this Resolution attempts to address a situation where the whole Legislature was bypassed."
"No, okay, that's not a point... I rule you out of order also, Sir. Yes, this is out of the record, Mr. Clerk. Agreed Resolutions."
"Agreed Resolutions. House Resolution 6, offered by Representative Countryman; 7, by Speaker Madigan; 8, by Mautino and Breslin; 10, by Wolf; 14 by Ryder; 15 by Hartke; 16 by Mays; 21 by McPike; 22 by Rice; and House Joint Resolution 4, White, Huff. And House Joint Resolution 5, Myron Olson - et al."
"The Gentleman from Madison, Mr. McPike."
"Thank you. House Resolution #6, Countryman; National 19 2nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE January 15, 1987 Council Boy Scouts... Eagle Scout Award. House Resolution 7, Madigan; Retirement of Margaret "Dowd". House Resolution 8, Mautino, Breslin; on open court publishing company, Peru. House Resolution 10, Granite City High School. House Res... by Wolf. House Resolution 14, Ryder; on Susan 'Suter'. House Resolution 15, Hartke; on Clara Miller. House Resolution 16, Representative Mays; congratulate William Klingner. House Resolution 21, McPike; on the Marriage... Earl and Mary Jensen. House Resolution 22, Rice; in the honor of four men in Chicago are various doctors. I move for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."
"The Gentleman from Madison, moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. Those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Death Resolutions."
"House Resolution 49, offered by Representative Wolf and McPike. With respect to the memory of Chris Costoff. House Resolution 11, offered by Representative Morrow. With respect to the memory of Barbara Joyce Officer Smith. House Resolution 12, offered by Representative Morrow. With respect to the memory of Carolyn Lewis. House Resolution 20, offered by Representative Stange. Which... respect to the memory of Richard J. 'Savage'."
"The Gentleman from Madison, Mr. McPike... Mr. McPike, moves for the adoption of the Death Resolutions. Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Resolutions are adopted. General Resolutions."
"House Resolution 17, offered by Representative Homer - et al. House Resolution 13, offered by 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 2nd Legislative Day January 15, 1987 Representative McGann. House Joint Resolution #1, offered by Speaker Madigan. House Joint Resolution 2, offered by Turner and Kirkland. House Joint Resolution 3, offered by Representative Homer - et al."
"Ms. Braun, for the purpose... yes, Committee on Assignment. Ms. Braun, for the purposes of remarks."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As I mentioned earlier on Monday, we will celebrate the anniversary of Dr. Martin Luther King's birthday. And it is really cause for celebration. I'd like the attention of the House for a moment, if you don't mind. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is a very serious matter. Dr. Martin Luther King is probably one of the greatest Americans of all time, and he leaves a legacy for all of us. But, I think we do well to recognize in this Chamber. We will not be in Session on the actual date of the celebration of his birthday. But, as we leave here today I didn't want the opportunity to go past. That we have an opportunity to say thank you, to him, for his efforts. To say thank you for what he has done for all of us. He's made all of us as Americans better people. And I wanted, on behalf of myself and other, to share with all of you a moment of silence, of silent prayer, in commemoration of Dr. King's birthday. Mr. Speaker, if we may have a moment of silent prayer for Dr. Martin Luther King."
"Mr. Clerk, would you read the Adjournment Resolution."
"House Joint Resolution resolved by the House of Representatives of the 85th General Assembly of the State of Illinois, the Senate concurring herein that when the House of Representatives adjourns, it stands adjourned until Thursday, January 22, 1987 at 11:00 o'clock a.m. And when it adjourns on Thursday, January 22, 1987, it stands 21 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 2nd Legislative Day January 15, 1937 adjourned until Thursday, January 29, 1987 at 11:00 o'clock a.m. And when it stands adjourned on Thursday, January 29, 1987, it stands adjourned until Monday, February 2, 1987 at 11:00 o'clock a.m. And when it adjourns on Monday, February 2, 1987, it stands adjourned until Teusday, February 3, 1987 at 11:00 o'clock, a.m. And when it adjourns on Tuesday, February 3, 1987, it stands adjourned until Wednesday, February 4, 1987, at 11:30 o'clock a.m."
"Gentleman from Madison, Mr. McPike, moves for the adoption of the Adjournment Resolution. Those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Adjournment Resolution is adopted. Now, Mr. Tuerk."
"Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, I just wanted to remind the Republican Members that we'll have a Conference in Room 118, fifteen minutes after adjournment."
"Accordingly, the House now stands in recess upon the Call of the Chair, allowing the Clerk, perfunctory time, at this time."
"I believe the Democrats are still going to do parking back in Gary LaPaille's Office. I'm trying to find out. Democrat Members have parking selection to do yet. Gary LaPaille's, I believe. Democrat Hembers will do parking selection and we can do it up here at the Clerk's Well, if by seniority you want to come up and look at parking."
"Introduction and First Reading of House Bills. House Bill 116, Braun, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Public Aid Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 117, Braun, a Bill for an Act to repeal Sections of the Minority and Female Business Enterprise Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 118, Braun, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act in relationship 22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 2nd Legislative Day January 15, 1987 to state revenue sharing with local governmental entities. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 119, Anthony Young et al, a Bill for an Act to require labor organizations which represent craft employees employed by the state, units of local government and school districts to have affirmative action programs. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 120, Anthony Young et al, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Code of Criminal Procedure. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 121, Anthony Young et al, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Code of Civil Procedure. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 122, Cullerton, a Bill for an Act to add Sections to the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 123, Ewing, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Public Utilities Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 124, Ewing, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Insurance Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 125, Ewing, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 126, Ewing, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 127, Ewing, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. First Reading of the Bill."
"The House is back in Session. On Motion of Representative Granberg, the House now stands adjourned." 23 01/30/87 13:18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX JANUARY 15, 1987 PAGE 1 HB-0087 FIRST READING PAGE 9 HB-0088 FIRST READING PAGE 10 HB-0089 FIRST READING PAGE 10 HB-0090 FIRST READING PAGE 10 HB-0091 FIRST READING PAGE 10 HB-0092 FIRST READING PAGE 10 HB-0093 FIRST READING PAGE 10 HB-0094 FIRST READING PAGE 10 HB-0095 FIRST READING PAGE 10 HB-0096 FIRST READING PAGE 10 HB-0097 FIRST READING PAGE 10 HB-0098 FIRST READING PAGE 10 HB-0099 FIRST READING PAGE 10 HB-0100 FIRST READING PAGE 10 HB-0101 FIRST READING PAGE 11 HB-0102 FIRST READING PAGE 11 HB-0103 FIRST READING PAGE 11 HB-0104 FIRST READING PAGE 11 HB-0105 FIRST READING PAGE 11 HB-0106 FIRST READING PAGE 11 HB-0107 FIRST READING PAGE 11 HB-0108 FIRST READING PAGE 11 HB-0109 FIRST READING PAGE 11 HB-0110 FIRST READING PAGE 11 HB-0111 FIRST READING PAGE 11 HB-0112 FIRST READING PAGE 11 HB-0113 FIRST READING PAGE 11 HB-0114 FIRST READING PAGE 12 HB-0115 FIRST READING PAGE 12 HB-0116 FIRST READING PAGE 22 HB-0117 FIRST READING PAGE 22 HB-0118 FIRST READING PAGE 22 HB-0119 FIRST READING PAGE 23 HB-0120 FIRST READING PAGE 23 HB-0121 FIRST READING PAGE 23 HB-0122 FIRST READING PAGE 23 HB-0123 FIRST READING PAGE 23 HB-0124 FIRST READING PAGE 23 HB-0125 FIRST READING PAGE 23 HB-0126 FIRST READING PAGE 23 HB-0127 FIRST READING PAGE 23 HR-0017 MOTION PAGE 15 HR-0017 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 17 HJR-0001 FIRST READING PAGE 12 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER - REPRESENTATIVE GREIMAN PAGE 1 PRAYER - REVEREND RICHARD MAYE PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 2 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 19 DEATH RESOLUTIONS PAGE 20 GENERAL RESOLUTIONS PAGE 20 RECESS PAGE 22 PERFUNCTORY SESSION PAGE 22 PERFUNCTORY SESSION - ADJOURNMENT PAGE 23 HOUSE RECONVENES PAGE 23 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 23