Illinois House Floor Debate — May 6, 1987

"The hour of 12:30 having arrived, the House will be in Session. Members will be in their seats. The Chaplain for today will be Father Robert Erickson, Principal of Griffin High School in Springfield. Father Erickson is a guest of Representative Jack Kubik. The guests in the gallery may wish to rise and join us in the Invocation. Father Erickson."

"Let us pray. God, our Life Giver and Liberator, make us both alert and free in Your service. In the light of Your truth, may we see what value to set on each day's events and how best to deploy our resources for each day's decisions. Help us to be hard headed without becoming hard hearted; and if we have to choose between two evils, give us at least the will to do right and the assurance that even when we are at our wits end, we are never out of the reach of Your mercy. Your's be the power and the victory for ever and ever, Amen."

"Representative Barger, to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance?"

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

"Roll Call for attendance. Mr. Matijevich, are there any excused absences on the Democratic side?"

"None on this side, Mr. Speaker."

"Mr. McCracken, are there any on the Republican side of which you are aware?"

"None of which I am aware. Representative Piel didn't..."

"I see. Where is...perhaps Mr. Piel is one of them." 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day

"He didn't tell me anything. Speaker Greiman: recognition."

"Yes, Mr.

Clerk May 6, 1987 I don't know." Mr. Ewing, for what purpose do you seek Speaker. Gordon Ropp and Mary Lou Cowlishaw." Let the record show "Alright. Representatives afternoon. that Ropp and Cowlishaw are excused this Mr. Clerk, take the record. 114 Members having answered to the call of the quorum, a quorum is present. Page 33 of the Calendar... Consent Calendar Second Reading. Mr. Clerk."

"Consent Calendar Second Reading Second Day. House Bill 689, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate (sic House) Bill 898, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Aid Code, together with Committee Amendment 21. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1015, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to compensation of various local officials. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate (sic House) Bill 1038, a Bill for an Act to amend the Community Mental Health Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate (sic - House) Bill 1104, a Bill for an Act to amend the Township Law. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate (sic House) Bill 1249, a Bill for an Act to amend the Emergency Medical Services Systems Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Senate (sic - House) Bill 1300, a Bill for an Act concerning... those are House Bills... House Bill 1300, a Bill for an Act concerning fees and salaries. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1337, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1454, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to create sanitary districts, together with Committee Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1464, a Bill for an Act to amend the Emergency Medical 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987 Services Systems Act. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1875, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning fees and salaries. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1945, a Bill for an Act in relation to sanitary districts. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1955, a Bill for an Act in relation to rural health day. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2012, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2022, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2066, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to county zoning. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2167, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2183, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2222, a Bill for an Act to repeal the Illinois Commission on Delinquency Prevention Act. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2230, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2359, a Bill for an Act to amend the Nursing Home Care Reform Act. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2360, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Health and Hazardous Substance Registry Act. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2367, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code, together with Committee Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2369, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2370, a Bill for an Act in relation to rehabilitation of disabled persons, together with Committee Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2371, a Bill for an Act to amend the Child Care Act. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2372, a Bill for an Act to amend the 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987 Illinois Human Rights Act. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2389, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2414, a Bill for an Act in relation to rehabilitation of disabled persons, together with Committee Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2604, a Bill for an Act to amend the Alcoholism and Substance Abuse Act. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2642, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Human Rights Act. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2802, a Bill for an Act in relation to disaster relief. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2813, a Bill for an Act in relation to emergency management together with Committee Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2820, a Bill for an Act to amend the Emergency Medical Services Systems Act, together with Committee Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2821, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Clinical Laboratory Act. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2827, a Bill for an Act in relation to professional license revocation. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2839, a Bill for an Act in relation to sexual assault. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2872, a Bill for an Act to amend the Abused and Neglected Child Reporting Act. Second Reading of the Bill."

"Third Reading. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Ronan, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have to waive the posting rules for the House Transportation Committee and announce that the committee that is recessed last week, or yesterday, we are going to meet tomorrow at 3:00 in Room 114, so, and these are for Members' Bills so that I want all the members of the Transportation Committee to be at 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987 3:00 in Room 114 and then for anybody who has got a Bill. But I do need the posting requirements lifted for House Bill 65, 1504, 2313 and 2629, three Republican Bills and Hicks bad Bill so that's what we would like waived."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Ronan, asks leave of the House to waive Rule 208 with respect to the posting of the enumerated Bills. Is there leave to use the Attendance Roll Call? Leave is granted and the Attendance Roll Call will be used. Mr. Rea, would you approach the podium, please? Is Mr. Rea in the Chair?"

"Thank you. Thank you. I'd like for Representatives Richmond, Phelps and Goforth to join us here and in the meantime I would ask the Clerk to read House Resolution 327."

"House Resolution 327 offered by Representatives Rea, Richmond, Goforth and Phelps. Whereas, it has come to our attention that the Shellor-Globe Manufacturing plant, in Herrin, is being honored and recognized on its 35th anniversary, and whereas in 1952, when the manufacturing facility opened in Herrin, it was then Allen Industries, and whereas Shellor Globe acquired the plant in 1986 and is continuing the tradition of providing quality products to the automotive industry, and whereas the Herrin Shellor Globe facility has for 35 years provided hundreds of jobs to generations of people from the Herrin area and the plant has had a major economic impact, and whereas throughout the years Shellor-Globe has been an outstanding corporate citizen participating and assisting in educational, recreational, civic and cultural affairs in the Herrin community as well as throughout the state, and last year it led the area industries in the United Way Campaign both at the employee and corporate level, therefore, be it resolved by the House of Representatives of the 85th General 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day Assembly of the State of Illinois that we Shellor-Globe Manufacturing, May 6, 1987 congratulate in Herrin, on its 35th anniversary in the manufacturing business and that we commend it for its very many contributions which have had a major impact on the Herrin community and be it further resolved that a suitable copy of this Preamble and Resolution be presented to Shellor-Globe Manufacturing in Herrin." Resolution 327. All

"You have heard the reading of House those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed, Resolution adopted. At this time it gives me great pleasure to introduce people from Herrin, Illinois, and the Shellor-Globe Company, celebrating their 35th Anniversary as an auto industry. We have had an auto industry in my district for 35 years and they have made quite an impact in terms of jobs and also the cultural enrichment of the area. At this time I would like to introduce the people that are here today in celebration. Art Wilson, Director of Human Resources. Art, if you would hold up your hand. Mayor Ed Qualya of Herrin. Densel Walker, President of the Herrin Chamber of Commerce. Tom Dennis, Executive Secretary of the Herrin Chamber of Commerce. John Nicholas, Director of Human Resources at the Norge Industries and at this time I would like to present to you for some brief comments Dan Shonbeck, who is the Plant Manager of Shellor-Globe."

"Thank you, Jim. My name is Dan Shonbeck, and I am the Plant Manager at Shellor-Globe in Herrin, Illinois. I would like to thank Jim Rea, Legislator from Christopher, Illinois, and Glen Poshard, Senator from Carterville, Illinois, for inviting me here today. We at Shellor-Globe in Herrin are a manufacturer of sound acoustical parts for the automotive market place. We employ approximately 600 people. For nearly 35 years we were Allen Industries until 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987 purchased by Shellor-Globe in November of 1986. We contributed $14,000,000 to local economy in 1986. For the past decade the American manufacturer has diminished in numbers because of foreign competition. The American manufacturer's survival depends on their ability to supply their customers with a quality product at the lowest price that allows business to be profitable. Many factors enter into our marketing price, which includes the cost of items under the control of state legislation and authority. My company will not shy away from competition, in fact, we welcome it. For us to be able to be competitively survived, we must be more fair in our basic business philosophy. I have come here today to ask you to help us relieve some of the cost of doing business through re-evaluating legislation that puts an unfair burden on the manufacturer in this great state. Workman's Compensation is an area that involves our greatest asset in business, our employees. Everyone wants a safe place to work, but when the infrequent accident occurs, our employees are well cared for medically and economically. There is, however, an unfair disadvantage and cost burden placed on the employees in the state by Morkman's Compensation legislation. I would ask you to search your conscience and task your minds to propose and implement legislation that gives us, your state's business plants, the ability to be a better competitor in an American and international marketplace. Not only would we at Shellor-Globe greatly appreciate this relief, but all Illinois businessmen would as well. In regard to the area of fairness in competition, it is about time that our legislators and leaders in Washington look to us on the home front for input to actual free trade within our nation's borders. This influential body should realize that foreign competition through 7  40th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1987 dumping, governmental subsidy and unfair price competition causes the American business to strangle. By closing their markets to American business, the international business community is creating their own form of protectionism. We in the state businesses feel the strangulation in the reduction of jobs, reduction of tax revenue, businesses closing off shore. It has to stop. Therefore, it is about time to put international business on an even keel. We must have legislation at the federal level that will require the development of an open international market or curtail American markets for countries not willing to play ball fairly. The Gebhart Trade Amendment is such a document to curtail nations that run large trade balances or engage in unfair trade practices. This body, and the business community in the State of Illinois, should get behind a ground swell effort to tell our Washington leaders it is time to play by the same rules and let free competition develop. I thank you for your kind attention and conclude by wishing you all well from Shellor-Globe in Herrin, Illinois. Thank you. Jim."

"Thank you."

"Thank you, very much. Mr. Preston, for what purpose do you seek recognition, sir?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I ask leave to waive the posting requirements so that House Bill 1341 can be heard in the Consumer Protection Committee which will be meeting tomorrow at 8:00."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Preston, asks leave of the House to waive Rule 20B with respect to House Bill 1341 so that Bill may be heard in the Committee on Consumer Protection tomorrow. Is there leave to use the Attendance Roll Call? You have leave, Sir."

"On Page 32 of the Calendar on the Order of 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day House Bills Cullerton? Cullerton: eliminates May 6, 1987 Third Reading appears House Bill 1. Mr. Do you wish to proceed on that Bill, Mr. Cullerton? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill No. 1, a Bill for an Act to eliminate jury exemptions, First (sic - Third) Reading of the Bill" "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Ladies and Gentlemen, you may be aware of the fact that last year we passed a Bill that eliminated all of the jury duty exemptions, with the exception of one, that being for people employeed by newspapers. The Bill, by the way, goes into effect July 1 of this year. Representative Kubik and I have introduced this Bill, House Bill 1, which the last and final jury duty exemption. Now, we, you should know that Representative Kubik and I appeared before the Illinois Press Association where we made our case and in committee, in Judiciary Committee, the Illinois Press Association worked with us on an amendment which was adopted and as a result of that amendment, they have withdrawn their opposition to the Bill. Of course, they're the only ones that had been in opposition to it before. So, with the passage of this Bill, we will have eliminated all of the exemptions. There is certainly no reason why we should have this one particular form of a media, the print media, have them have their exemption. I believe this is really a reform, the final state of reform in which we have truly a jury of one's peers. If there are reasons why someone cannot serve on a jury, we have ample safeguards whereby they can be excused until they can, indeed, appear and serve on a jury. I would be happy to answer any questions. I would appreciate your support. For those of you who are concerned about the position of the Illinois Press Association, I know many of you are, they have indicated that they are in support of the Bill as 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1987 40th Legislative Day Speaker amended."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton, moves for the passage of House Bill 1. And on that the Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will yield for questions."

"The amendment you refer to which neutralized the Press Association is known as Amendment #2, is that right?"

"Yes. There was initially an Amendment #1 which did not meet with the favor of the committee, and as a result we came back to the committee the next week and adopted Amendment #2."

"Okay. Amendment #2 changes current law in two respects. One, it requires the jury commissioners to excuse a prospective jurer as opposed to giving them discretion to excuse the prospective jurer, if the prospective jurer shows that it would be discriminatory opposed to the prior law, or current law, that it would impose an undue hardship. So now we have a requirement that the jury commissioners excuse the prospective jurer if that jurer shows discrimination or would impose an undue hardship. Is that right?"

"Yes. Now, as to your second part, it adds, it doesn't eliminate the issue of undue hardship being an element."

"Yes. You're right."

"It adds the issue of whether it would be discriminatory and let me say that normally when you change *may to 'shall', it makes a big difference. Normally. But in this case, since we are not eliminating the discretion of the jury commissioner, what we are really saying is, really, it doesn't have that big of an impact. They have discretion still, if they, if they in their 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987 discretion feel that it would be, such service would be discriminatory or would impose an undue hardship, then they 'shall' excuse. If they found that that was the case and the law said that they may excuse, the same result would apply. They would excuse them. The 'may' to 'shall' is not as significant, its really just stylistic."

"I agree with that analysis to the extent that they have discretion to find discrimination or undue hardship and only after that discretion do they then discharge the prospective jurer. What does discriminatory mean? Is it race, sex, ..."

"Let me just say that my intention with the Bill, when your eliminating an exemption by occupation, you have to replace it with a system whereby there's excuses are raised to the Board of Election Commissioners, I'm sorry, the Jury Commissioners and..."

"Aг. Speaker, could we have some order. I can't hear the gentleman."

"Alright. Yes. Members will be in their seats. We are on Third Reading. This is final action. Give Mr. McCracken and Mr. Cullerton your attention. please."

"Right. Just to put this in perspective. When you eliminate an exemption by occupation all together, you have to be very careful when you replace it, so that the people who were exempted before now still have some remedy to be able to avoid jury service if it would provide either an undue hardship or it would be discriminatory for them to serve." McCracken "Yes."

"My intent is for it to be very broad. My intent is for the Jury Commissioners to have a broad discretion. That's really the theory of the Bill. To give them the 11  40th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1987 broad discretion. However, the main point of the Bill is we feel that, and the General Assembly has shown this already by passing the Bill last year, we feel that it's best to look at someone's excuse on an individual basis rather than by occupation across the board."

"And that's fine. My only point is that, that for purposes of legislative debate or record, if this were to be construed, the use of the word discriminatory implies treatment which differs among different classes of people. I'm not trying to give you a hard time, but..."

"No. You're trying to flush out what we mean by discriminatory."

"Right. So, do we find a certain class of businessman who typically, as a class member, would expect to be excused, but he's not excused. So he claims discrimination. I mean, is that... are we talking about classical discrimination?"

"Not really. Remember that this amendment was drafted in response to the Illinois Press Association's concerns that jury commissioners or county boards might try to harrass small newspapers so that they wouldn't be able to publish the newspaper. And they are concerned about the First Amendment rights of the newspaper publishers. So this is really, given that background, this is really in response to their concerns that a jury commissioner or a county board member would not be able to discriminate against a particular newspaper by constantly calling for jury service one of their employees, as a result shutting down the newspaper. That's the background."

"So you would expect that term to be used in the context of different treatment of people or classes that should not be treated differently. Am I right?"

"Right. Without any relevance to the issue as to 12  40th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1987 whether or not they can be a good or bad jurer."

"Okay. Thank you."

"Thank you."

"Further discussion. There being none, the question is, Shall this Bill pass?" All those in favor signify. Mr. Cullerton, do you wish to close?"

"I thought maybe Representative Kubik might want to close."

"Alright. Mr. Kubik, to close. The question is, Shall this Bill pass?" All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed voting 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 107 voting 'aye', 7 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of House Bills Third Reading appears House Bill 39. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 39, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure, Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Lady from LaSalle, Ms. Breslin, on House Bill 39."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would ask leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading so that Representative Countryman can put on a technical Amendment."

"The Lady from LaSalle, Ms. Breslin, asks leave of the House to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purpose of amendment. Does she have leave? Leave is granted. The Bill is on Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, are there any amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2 offered by Representative Countryman amends House Bill 39 as amended." 13  40th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL AS SEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1987

"The Gentleman from DeKalb, Mr. Countryman, on Amendment #2."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 is merely technical and it simply clarifies the language on fees and I move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman from DeKalb moves that the House adopt Amendment #2 to House Bill 39. Those in favor say 'aye, opposed "no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The amendment is adopted. amendments."

"There are no further amendments."

Further Speaker Greiman: "Third Reading. The Lady from LaSalle moves that the House...asks leave of the House that this Bill may be heard at this time waiving the rule restricting the hearing of Bills when an amendment has been adopted. Does she have leave? Leave is granted. Ms. Breslin."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. years ago this House Two passed a Bill which authorized the Supreme Court to establish mandatory arbitration systems throughout this state. The Supreme Court, pursuant to that Bill has drafted rules which are waiting for adoption. They also have proposed two pilot projects to begin. That previous Bill did not establish funding for the proposal. This Bill, House Bill 39, says that the state shall pay for the funding of all mandatory arbitration programs. appreciate your favorable Roll Call."

"Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill?" I

"House Bill 39, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure, Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Lady from LaSalle moves for the passage of House Bill 39. And on that the Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken." 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987

"Will the Sponsor yield for some questions?"

"She indicates that she will yield for questions."

"Representative, these are two pilot programs which you are directing the appropriations to be made by the General Assembly?"

"That will come in a separate Bill. This Bill only provides for state funding."

"Mr. Speaker. I can't hear anything. Could we have order?"

"This Bill only provides for state funding. It does not set up the pilot programs."

"And has the Supreme Court set fees yet for this?"

"The Supreme Court has drafted the rules. They are at the point of final adoption, although I have not heard that they have been finally adopted. They have two counties, one immediately ready to go, as soon as the rules are adopted and the funding is provided, and that is in Winnebago County."

"Now is there any indication, or do you have any knowledge as to the approximate cost of what the Appropriation Bill would be to fund the pilot programs?"

"Yes. The Appropriation Bill will be 4.4 million dollars."

"And is there any provision in the Supreme Court rules for the loser to pay or the person who goes to court in face of arbitration, and loses, to pay? Are there any ways of making up those fees?"

"The one mechanism for making up the fee under the currently drafted Supreme Court rules is that should the party reject the arbitrators decision, they will pay a fee in order to proceed back to a trial by judge or by jury."

"But there is no fee for engaging in the arbitration?" 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day

"There is no May 6, 1987 It fee for engaging in the arbitration. is...that would be a deterrent to using the arbitration. This is a mandatory system. They will pay the normal fees of anyone filing a suit in the State of Illinois."

"But the arbitrator fees, which will make up the bulk of this, will be paid by the state."

"That is correct."

"What is the scope of the mandatory program? What are the classes of cases which must be arbitrated?"

"The classes of cases are those cases between $2,500.00 and $15,000.00. It is also presently drafted in the Supreme Court Rules that should, in a pre-trial conference, a judge determine that the value of the case is under $15,000.00, but more that $2,500.00. That case will also go to mandatory arbitration."

"Okay. Has a bank or a means of using arbitrators been provided for already? I mean where are we going to get these arbitrators?"

"Under the Supreme Court Rules as presently drafted, and remember they are not yet adopted, Representative McCracken, they intend to get their pool of attorneys from persons licensed to practice law in this state for a minimum of one year."

"Alright. And any costs and fees which are made, or any costs and fees which are imposed upon an unsuccessful appeal of the arbitrator's decision, will be remitted to the State Treasurer for the General Revenue Fund. Is that it?"

"That is correct."

"I don't suppose there is any way to tell what that figure would be. Is there any way to anticipate, or estimate, what that figure might be on an annual basis?"

"I have not seen such estimates. Obviously, we are 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987 hoping that it will be low, because we hope that very few people will go on to trial of their case."

"And will the appropriation which you have spoken of, will it be part of the Supreme Court's request for funds for fiscal '88."

"It will be part...it will be a separate request. So the Appropriations Committee will deal with it separately."

"And will the Supreme Court be the agency to whom the funds would be appropriated?"

"Yes."

"Thank you. I have nothing further."

"Further discussion? There being none. The Lady to close. The question is, *Shall House Bill 39 pass'. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open, and this is final action. Mr. Clerk, take the record. Of this question there are 108 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', 6 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. We will now go to the...on Page 10 of the Calendar on the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 2. Mr. Cullerton, did you wish that called? Out of the record. On that Order of business appears House Bill 3. Mr. Matijevich, out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 5. Mr. Rea? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill #5, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"There are none."

"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 16. Mr. Cullerton? Mr. 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day Clerk, read the Bill." May 6, 1987

"House Bill 16, a Bill for an Act in relationship to airport authorities. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"

"There are no Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Piel and McCracken."

"On Amendment #2, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Piel, Mr. McCracken, will you take... which one will take the Amendment?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Question of the Clerk. Has this been distributed?"

"Has Amendment #2 been distributed? I'm advised by the Clerk that it has not. Mr. Cullerton, what is your pleasure? Do you wish to move to table the Amendment, or what?"

"Yes. I would move to table the amendment. I can be happy to explain why it should be defeated, anyway. So I'll be... cause I have a copy. So I would move to table the Amendment."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton, moves to table Amendment #2 to House Bill 16 and on that, Mr. McCracken, you just want to address the issue? Alright, Mr. Cullerton, on the Motion. Proceed, sir."

"Yes, I would, even if the Amendment had been distributed, I will be happy to tell you what it does. The Amendment guts the Bill, and so as a result I clearly would be opposed to the Amendment. Now, what happened here was I had a Bill, House Bill 16, I amended it in Committee and I included in my Amendment a Bill that Representative 18  40th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1987 Cowlishaw, who is not here today, I understand, also wanted passed. House Bill 802. What Representative Piel's Amendment does is to strike my Bill, the original House Bill 16, only leaving Representative Cowlishaw's Bill, 802, which is clearly unfair. Especially if you believe that the Cullerton-Deuchler Bill, and Representative Deuchler is a hyphenated Co-sponsor with me of House Bill 16. I understand that the other Republicans are perhaps considering getting on the Bill in support of the Bill. The Bill deals with the DuPage County Airport Authority. The Amendment is, I think, a very reasonable one, which encompasses a compromise between, a compromise position between Kane County and DuPage County, and it's a very fair Bill which his Amendment simply guts. So for that reason, if you want to vote against the Bill, vote against the Bill on Third Reading. But to vote for an Amendment which guts the Bill, only leaving Representative Cowlishaw's Bill, which I, as a courtesy, put on my Amendment, I think is very unfair. So for that reason I move to table the Amendment."

"The Gentleman from Cook wishes to table Amendment #2 to House Bill 16 and on that the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. McCracken, from DuPage, Mr. McCracken."

"Mr. Speaker, maybe I can obviate the necessity of this Motion. There has been a fiscal note requested on that Bill and not yet filed. The Bill can't move anyway. By the time it can move, the Amendment may have been printed and distributed."

"Well, but the issue...that doesn't obviate the issue, but I appreciate the information. Do you wish to address the issue?"

"Yes."

"Alright. Proceed, sir." 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day

"Let me say this. We talked about this other day. Representative May 6, 1987 somewhat the Cowlishaw was not allowed to present her Bill for purposes of passage to that Committee. She was told by the Gentleman that no Republican Bills would come out of that Committee, but that he would be willing to amend on to his Bill, or to collapse into his Bill, Representative Cowlishaw's Bill, and that is the Amendment which was adopted in Committee. The Amendment, by the way, was adopted at a time when the Republicans had left the Committee, not to walk out on the Committee. but to confer with their leader. At the time they left the Committee, the Committee was not yet called to order. There was not yet either a quorum, or if there were a quorum at that time, the meeting had not yet been called to order. After the Republicans left, the meeting was called to order, the Amendment was adopted with Democratic votes while the Republicans were out discussing the matter and in point of fact, the Bill was never given a fair hearing. Representative Cullerton's Bill was never given a fair hearing. It was voted upon while everybody was... while all the Republicans were gone. It was voted upon because they left because the meeting had not been called to order. Only in their absence was the meeting called to order and only in their absence was a vote taken upon it. Only in their absence was the Amendment, which was Representative Cowlishaw's Bill, voted upon. Now I ask you'What is fair?' The fact of the matter is, Mr. Speaker, we were not given a chance to vote against House Bill 16 in the Aeronautics Committee. Representative Cowlishaw was not given an opportunity to present her Bill and have her Bill passed because she was told there were no Republican Bills that were going to pass out of that Committee. So the Gentleman speaks of fairness, I ask him to withdraw his 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987 Tabling Motion and let due process have its day. Let us have our day on the floor if you are not going to give it to us in the Committee. Let us have our chance to address the issue fairly on the floor if you're not going to do it in Committee. If the Gentleman doesn't like the Amendment, he is free to file other Amendments which would re-incorporate his Bill and it can be discussed. The way it was conducted in the Aeronautics Committee was not fair. It was a travesty of the rules."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Piel"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I could definitely understand the Gentleman's Motion if we were sitting here with a real tight time constraint as far as getting Bills off of Second Reading. Right at the very beginning of Second Reading this, you know, order is going to be brought up many, many times. It's not a situation to where it's going to be brought up today and never again. I would ask the Gentleman to withdraw his Motion. It's an Amendment that I feel that addresses an issue. I think as far as the way the Bill stands right now, we are getting our nose into areas where we shouldn't be, you know, as far as rural areas outside the City of Chicago, and I would ask the Gentleman to remove his Motion and to vote the Amendment either up or down when it comes out to the floor which should probably be either today or first thing tomorrow morning."

"Mr. Cullerton, close."

"Yes. Perhaps I could just clarify some of the remarks made by a couple of the previous speakers. First of all, with regard to the Aeronautics Committee, the reason why the Republicans got up and called a, and all left the Committee, I understand was because some of the Republicans wanted to actually vote for the Bill, which was 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987 going to cause some consternation on the leadership, so they called all the Republican members off the... out of the Committee just before we were to vote on it. With regard to Representative Cowlishaw, Representative Cowlishaw asked me to include her Bill in my Amendment and she thanked me profusely for doing SO. And she really never even indicated to me that she wished to even call her Bill in the Aeronautics Committee, and so we have been fair. As everyone knows, its very difficult to keep a quorum in these Committees...in this last week and running around. The same thing happened after the Republicans came back. Some of them indicated they did want to vote for the Bill. We did have a quorum there and we called the Bill at the time that the Committee was scheduled to vote. So I would renew my Motion to table the Amendment #1."

"The question is, 'Shall the Motion be adopted?" Those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed "no". In the opinion of the Chair... The Chair will have a Roll Call. Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed "no". The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 66 voting 'aye', 47 voting 'no', none voting 'present', and the Motion is adopted, and the Amendment #2 is tabled. Mr. Cullerton. Cullerton: For what purpose do you seek recognition?" "Yes, Mr. Speaker, I would move that the Fiscal Note Act not apply to this Bill. The Bill absolutely has nothing to do with the state, cost to the state whatsoever. It changes the authority of the DuPage County Airport and I would therefore move that the Fiscal Note Act not apply.

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton, moves that the Fiscal Note Act not apply to House Bill 16 and on that the Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken." 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day

"Point of order, Mr. Speaker."

"Yes, Mr. McCracken." May 6, 1987

"Before I proceed any further, the Gentleman's Motion is out of order. It's not timely at this time to make it. The Fiscal Note has been requested already."

"Yes, that's true, Mr. ... However, that's when one can make a Motion in pursuant to Section 42.32 of Chapter 63 of the Illinois Revised Statutes. A Member may move to dispense with the Fiscal Note."

"To the Motion."

"Proceed, Sir."

"Another point of order, Mr. Speaker, the Motion is not in writing, I object."

"Let me discuss it with the Parliamentarian."

"Why don't you give us a ruling before he has a chance to write it out?"

"I have to discuss it with my Parliamentarian to understand the gravity of it. I believe that, under the rules, that, yes, Mr. Clerk. I believe Mr. that you were correct, indeed, that it is the kind of thing that requires a written Motion, and the Clerk, Mr. Leone, advises me that such a Motion has, in fact, been made in writing. To the Motion, Sir."

"I think this is another example of what we have been subjected to in this Session of the General Assembly, and it can happen to you over there, too. It isn't a one way street, necessarily. All of the actions that have been taken relative to these aeronautics issues have been with the precise intent to avoid the issue of safety at O'Hare Field. Now you know when those planes crash, they don't crash just on Republicans. They crash on Democrats as well. And you're not fooling anybody by failing to address the issue. The Gentleman seeks to table an Amendment 23  40th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1987 which, in good faith, he could just as well have addressed. He was the Sponsor of the Bill in committee and took a vote when the Republicans were not there. The Republicans did not walk out with the intention of not participating in the Committee. The meeting had not yet been called to order. Now the Gentleman moves to do away with the necessity of the Fiscal Note Act, moving that it is not applicable. On the face of the Bill, it notes that the Fiscal Note Act may be applicable. It has occasioned the Bill to change and to change a local government authority, it has occasioned to include in that authority members from various municipalities, it has a fiscal impact on local government, and that is the reason for the purpose of the Fiscal Note Act in the first place. They're your rules, why don't you live with them. You're not making any headway trying to roll over us like this. Just because you've got the horses today, doesn't mean you're not going to need us some other time. I ask the Gentleman to withdraw his Motion and let this Bill go ahead in due course.

"Mr. Cullerton, to close."

"The issue is harrassment, whether or not the minority party wishes to harrass the Democratic Party and the Members in trying to have the normal course of the proceedings to go along with Bills moving to Third Reading so they can be debated. I'm not trying to hide a debate on this Bill. I'm trying to get to the a debate on this Bill. So for that reason I would renew my Motion."

"The question is, 'Shall the Motion be adopted?" All those in favor signify by voting 'aye", those opposed vote 'no." Voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 66 voting 'aye', 44 voting 'no', none voting 'present'. The Motion is adopted. Third 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL AS SEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987 Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 21. Mr. Terzich? Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill ... for the record, 46, out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 77. Mr. Rea? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.

"House Bill 77, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Administrative Procedure Act, Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"

"There are no Motions filed."

"Are there any further Amendments, Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representative Rea."

"The Gentleman from Franklin, Mr. Rea, on Amendment #2."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Amendment 2, all this does is exempt the Constitutional Officers, other than the Governor. I would ask for an 'aye vote."

"The Gentleman from Franklin moves for the adoption of Amendment 2 to House Bill 77, and on that is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Bill be adopted?' Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments."

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 80. Mr. Cullerton, do you wish to proceed? Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears... Mr. Cullerton, you 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day wish to... Mr. Clerk, read the Bill with respect May 6, 1987 to House Bill 80."

"House Bill 80, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"

"There are no Motions filed."

"Yes, Mr. Cullerton. Alright, out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 113. Out of the record. Now on Page 11 of the Calendar. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 116. Ms. Braun, did you wish to proceed? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 116, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"There are none."

"Now, there has been a fiscal note requested. Is that fiscal note been filed?"

"There is no fiscal note on file."

"Are there any Motions...Alright, the Bill will have to remain on the Order for Second Reading, I mean... On House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 123. Mr. Ewing, do you wish to proceed? Mr. Ewing? Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 143. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 143, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Community College Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments 1 and 2 were adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions with respect to Amendment #1 and #2?" 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987

"There are no Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3 is being offered by Representative Wolf."

"The Gentleman from Madison, Mr. Wolf, on Amendment #3."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 143 is the Bill that provides by referendum...it gives permission to community college districts to form single member districts. Amendment #3 would simply change the signatures required from 1000 to 2000, allowing that to be put on the referendum, and I would move for adoption of Amendment #3."

"The Gentleman from Madison, Mr. Wolf, moves for the adoption of Amendment 3 to House Bill 143, and on that is there any discussion? There being none, the question, "Shall this amendment be adopted?" All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. Amendment #3 is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, being offered by Representative Wolf."

"The Gentleman from Madison, Mr. Wolf, on Amendment #4."

"Withdraw #4."

"Amendment #4 is withdrawn. Further Amendments."

"Floor Amendment #5 is being offered by Representative Leverenz."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz, on Amendment #5. Mr. Leverenz. Amendment #5, House Bill 143, Sir."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Amendment #5 would simply eliminate Cook County in terms of the Bill and I would move 27  40th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1987 for its adoption."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #5 to House Bill 143, and on that the Gentleman from Madison, Mr. Wolf."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Originally, when I introduced House Bill 143, I attempted to have this legislation effect only one particular district. I found that I was unable to do that. If it is the wish of those in Cook County not to be included in this Bill, I would have no objection."

"Further discussion? There being none, the question, 'Shall this amendment be adopted?' Those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments."

"Floor Amendment #6 being offered by Representative McCracken."

"The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken, on Amendment #6."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The amendment would include the Chicago Community College District in the provisions of the Bill. They would be auth...therefore the Trustees of that City Colleges would be authorized to order a referendum on the matter of electing trustees. And I move its adoption."

"The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken, moves for the adoption of Amendment #6 to House Bill 143 and on that the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."

"Thank you. I would rise in opposition to Amendment #6 in that we are interested in serving the downstate districts as we have with the Bill as we have amended it with 5, but 6 to include the City of Chicago colleges would be objectionable. I would hope that you would vote 'no' to Amendment #6." 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Young."

"I, too, rise in opposition to Amendment #6 and would just indicate that if this Amendment goes on the Bill, it would make the Bill very difficult for those of us from the City of Chicago to vote for it. I urge its defeat."

"Further discussion. Mr. McCracken, to close."

"I wish I had an opportunity to question Mr. Young on why it would cause him a problem. The community college districts throughout the state under this Bill, as amended, would be allowed to hold a referendum in the discretion of the trustees to determine the manner of electing district board members, at large or by sub-district. Apparently Chicago Community College System is at large and is resisting this sub-district Amendment. I remind the opposition that this is something which would rest with the discretion of your trustees. Your trustees that are currently there, whether they want to propose a referendum to the voters of Chicago on creating sub-districts. You know, there has been a lot of talk about breaking down the City of Chicago School District because its size is unwieldy. There has been legislation offered which would create sub-districts. I submit to you that the rationale and support of that position is no different than this. The community college system has many campuses. it is spread over a city of 3,000,000 people, the trustees elected at large can often times have no relationship with many parts of the area, of the city. I'm sorry, they're appointed. And this would allow a trustee election either at large or by sub-district. What is wrong with an election. Does the Mayor of Chicago need patronage to such a degree that he's scared to allow this referendum to be voted upon by his constituents? I don't see why that should give him a problem, and I respectfully request that 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987 this Motion to Adopt be favorably voted upon."

"The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?" Those in favor signify by saying 'aye", those opposed "no". All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no". Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Hr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 62 voting 'aye', 40...I'm sorry 48 voting 'aye', 62 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present' and the Amendment fails. Further Amendments."

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 144. Ms. Davis, do you wish to proceed? There's a... a fiscal note has been requested. Alright, Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 144, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Lottery Law, Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1, #2, #3 and #4 were adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions with respect to those Amendments."

"There are no Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?

"No Floor Amendments."

"Has the fiscal note been filed?"

"Fiscal note is not filed."

"We've requested it. It's done. I don't know why it's not filed."

"Well, if you can... I will gladly come back to this before the afternoon is out if we can discover where it is, alright, so we'll take it out of the record for the moment."

"Thank you."

"On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 155. Ms. Breslin? Out of the record. 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987 On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 161. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 161, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Mandates Act in an Act Requiring Fiscal Notes. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"There are none."

"Third Reading. Oh, there has been a fiscal note requested, I think. Have you filed the fiscal note. Mr. Clerk?"

"There is no fiscal note on file."

"Well, then the Bill will have to remain on the Order of Second Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 164. Mr. Kubik, do you wish to proceed? Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 176. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 176, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments? This is House Bill 176."

"Floor Amendment #1, being offered by Representative O'Connell."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. O'Connell, on Amendment #1."

"Mr. Speaker, I leave to withdraw Amendment #1."

"Amendment #1 withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, being offered by Representative Countryman."

"The Gentleman from DeKalb, Mr. Countryman, on Amendment #2."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day House. Amendment #2 sets the priority..."

"Mr. McCracken. May 6, 1987 Excuse me. Mr. McCracken, would you...thank you. Mr. Countryman, proceed."

"Thank you. Amendment #2 sets the priority of what would happen with the bail money if it was returned. If the defendant's attorney had filed the proper proceedings and documents with the court, it would be returned to him, or if he had a public defender, it could be charged against the public defender. But the attorney would have priority over application to other Items. And it has a technical Amendment on Line 20, adding the words 'of this code'. And I move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman from DuPage, from DeKalb, Mr. Countryman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 176 and on that the Gentleman from Fulton, Mr. Homer."

"Question for the Sponsor."

"Indicates he will yield for questions."

"I couldn't hear a thing you were saying. Representative Countryman."

"Well, I was taking lessons from Representative Giorgi."

"Is that right? It worried me. Could you explain again what the import of Amendment #2 will do?"

"Yes. It would say that the attorney's fees is a priority, the first priority, and the attorney's fees would go either, in the case where you file the bond assignment with the court as a private attorney, or for application as a public defender."

"Under current law, when a defendent has posted bail bond, Representative Countryman, the court must first, before refunding the bail bonds, subtract the fees, the fine, restitution..."

"That comes first. This is just the..." 32  40th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1987

"And under your Amendment, where would the attorneys fees fall in the line of prioritization."

"After the court costs and the bonding fee."

"Before the fines and the restitution?"

"No. No, they would be...fines would be in there, but restitution would not."

"The attorneys fees would come before the restitution?"

"Yes, in the case of a private counsel, it was, they filed a bond assignment..."

"To the Amendment, Mr. Speaker."

"Proceed."

"I think its important for the Members of the House to realize what this Sponsor attempts to do with this Amendment. In a criminal case, defendent posts bond, and when the case is disposed of, the court can use that bond for certain purposes; for example, taking out the court costs, the fine, and normally, then, if there is money left over. the court could award the rest of the bond to the victim of the crime for restitution, for the damage caused to the victim. Now this Sponsor would say we're going to insert defense attorneys before victims in determining the priority of where this bond money goes. Now, I'm an attorney, and I do defense work, but in all candor. I do not think that I, as the defense attorney, deserve to be prioritized over the rights of crime victims in determining who will benefit from the bond money that is put up in a criminal case. And so for those of you who feel that crime victims should take precedence over attorneys, then you should oppose this Amendment."

"The Gentleman from Champaign, Mr. Johnson."

"Representative Parke wanted to speak first."

"Mr. Parke."

"Thank you. That's a good point, Representative Homer, 33  40th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1987 but Amendment 4, which will come, allows the court to make, the judge to be discretionary on the priority which is detained.... What, in fact, Countryman's Amendment does, is that it says that the attorney is to be considered as one of those people to, within the priority of payment. That, you are right that that Amendment puts it in there, but my Amendment 4, which we've agreed on, says that the judge has the discretionary now that its in there to pick that one first, or restitution to the victim, or other ways that he may choose. But we think that there should be a priority for the payment of fees to the attorneys representing the... in these cases."

"Yes, now. Mr. Johnson, proceed."

"Representative Homer is not deliberately misleading you, but I think he's left out a couple of factors. When a defendent posts a bond in a criminal case, that's his or her money, his money. The fact that it has to be posted, now, doesn't leave it open to every conceivable party that can make a claim on it. The fact is, if, the reason a bond assignment is executed is because in order to get out of jail, in order to get a lawyer to represent him, you've got to execute this bond assignment and then make the system work. The system doesn't work, Representative Homer, unless you have adversaries on each side who are willing to argue in behalf of their client. So really, what it is, it's as though the client paid the lawyer right up front by way of a bond assignment. The reason he couldn't pay him his cash is because he had to get out of jail in order to help conduct the defense. So he's really already paid him through the bond assignment, and no one is suggesting that there ought not to be portions that are left or other assets available to pay restitution. Simply suggesting that to make the criminal justice system work, to be able 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987 to afford defendents adequate defense, to make an adversary system, that a bond assignment sometimes is used in lieu of a cash payment, just because of the realities of the situation. So its really not fair to say its a trade off of victims versus lawyers. That isn't the way it is at all. And I would simply suggest that your criticism, particularly in light of Amendment #4, isn't well founded. And if you eliminate that, you're going to eliminate vigorous defense or defense at all in some cases. When the person doesn't qualify for the public defender, cause they have a sufficient amount of money, it's just that it's posted up in order to get them out of jail. And so I think that, while your opposition is well intended, if that philosophy prevails across the board, it's really going to damage the working of our criminal justice system."

"The Gentleman from Morgan, Mr. Ryder."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of this Amendment on behalf of Representative Countryman. I think that we are forgetting a very basic issue here. That this is the manner in which one can employ legal counsel. What is being suggested by the opposition to this Amendment is that one should not be able to do that. This is a time honored method of paying for legal counsel. As a result, in order to make this work, one has to have these priorities established. The end result is, if you deny this Amendment, you're simply saying that the state should be supplying that, or in the event that the state doesn't, that these people do not deserve representation and that, Ladies and Gentlemen, is just plain wrong."

"The Gentleman from DeKalb, Mr. Countryman, to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think there has been some misunderstanding. I've been working with Representative 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987 Parke, who is the chief Sponsor of this Bill, to work out a solution. I think when we get all the Amendments on, it will be a fair solution. It does establish a priority, if the judge so allows it, after all the Amendments will be on, as to the attorneys fees, but the other speakers make a good point. It, when all the Amendments are on, it will allow the attorneys fees to be one of the factors that a judge can allow the money to be applied to, but I think that Representative Ryder made the best point, and that is that, that private attorneys do serve a purpose. They take the burdon off the public defender's office, they take the burdon off the cost to the tax payers to provide this defense. Many times when the money is posted, it does not belong to the defendent, but belongs to some relative, friend, or somebody of that nature and bail is not the sort of thing that we have ever intended to be a sum of money to be used necessarily for other things other than to post the security that the defendent return to court at the time for trial. But we have traditionally allowed it to be assigned to the attorney in lieu of payment for the fees. I think this also protects society because many times defendents will be released, and if they have to come up with fees for the lawyers, other than the bond money, sometimes they may commit other crimes. So I think this is good public policy and I think when its all put together with the Sponsor, I think the objections to the Bill and the Amendment will be moot. So I move for its adoption."

"Mr. Young, were you seeking recognition before. I think I didn't notice it. Mr. Young."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"With your, with your, do you wish to speak on this."

"Yes, I did, Mr. Speaker. I want..." 36  40th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1987 Yes,

"Mr. Countryman, with your acquiescence. proceed, Sir."

"I, too, just wanted to rise in support of this Amendment, and point out the fact that particularly in Cook County, and in some of the more over-crowded courtrooms, defense attorneys will represent defendants instead of a public defender, knowing they can work only for that portion of the bond that can be refunded. If this Amendment is not adopted, I think in a lot of those instances where private attorneys are now representing defendants in Cook County and over-crowded courtrooms, those private attorneys will no longer do so. It will clog up the system more so, put more burdon on the public defenders office and all around create, make a bad situation even worse. I urge 'aye' vote on this Amendment."

"Alright. The question is, "Shall the Amendment be adopted?" Those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no". All those...alright, in the opinion of the Chair, we'll have a Roll Call. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no". The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 71 voting 'aye', 36 voting 'no', 4 voting 'present', and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments."

"Floor Amendment #3 offered by Representative Parke."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment 3 was recommended by Democratic staff for clarification, and, in essence, it simply says is that the court costs are to be taken out first, which is normal, and this is to clarify that to make sure that it's not overlooked. I ask for a passage of Amendment 3."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Parke, moves for 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987 the adoption of Amendment #4 (sic - #3) and on that is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4 offered by Representative Parke."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Parke, on Amendment #4."

"Mr. Speaker, you said that Amendment #4 was the one that we were voting on just now, and, in fact, it was Amendment 3."

"Alright, let the record show that we have just adopted Amendment #3."

"Thank you."

"Now we have Amendment #4. Is that correct, Mr. Clerk?"

"Correct."

"Alright, Mr. Parke, proceed."

"Thank you. Amendment #4 simply states that the judge has discretion as to the priority in which payments are to be made, depending on his evaluation of the case. I ask for Amendment 4 to be, to be passed."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Parke, wishes for the adoption of Amendment #4, and on that the Gentleman Homer: from Fulton, Mr. Homer." "Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Inquiring of the Chair, is Amendment #4 in order?"

"Pardon, Sir?"

"Is Amendment #4 in order?"

"Let me examine it. Yes. You're correct, Mr. Homer, the Amendment is out of order. Further Amendments." 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1987 40th Legislative Day

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Alright, we will be returning on... Yes, Mr. Parke?"

"Yes, I feel that it is important to have that Amendment on the Bill because of the agreements I have made. Can I take it out..."

"Alright, you should make one that's in order, offer it, return the Bill, and when it gets called on Third Reading."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Alright. On Bills on the Order of Second Reading which we passed appears House Bill 144. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill. Yes, Mr. McCracken."

"Mr. Speaker, I have what purports to be a fiscal note. It's dated March 16, 1987. This Bill apparently came on the Order of Second Reading yesterday. We filed our fiscal note request yesterday and what purports to be a fiscal note appears not to be a fiscal note. Now you've passed it once in order for them to..."

"Now, let's look at it so we can determine the sufficiency of the note, okay?"

"No. No. No. It isn't a question of sufficiency. It's not a fiscal note. We made the request yesterday, and it's..."

"May we look at the paper, please?"

"Sure. I was handed the paper by your staff."

"Thank you. I appreciate it. Mr., Mr. McCracken. I appreciate your observation, however, under Section 42.34, which sets out the requisites and contents of a fiscal note, this would appear to be appropriate. It does follow, it is factual nature, it is brief and concise, and it provides I assume a reliable estimate in dollars. It's not very complimentary to the Bill, as you may 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day notice."

"What are you citing, Mr. Speaker?"

"42.34 of Chapter 63 of the Illinois Revised Statutes."

"So you're saying our request can be satisfied by a co-incidental letter authored two or three months ago?"

"I'm sorry, Mr. McCracken."

"I'm just, I'm just astonished by your knowledge, Mr. Speaker, to cite chapter and verse of the Illinois Revised Statutes extemporaneously. I can only bow to your wisdom, but..."

"Thank you."

"...but let me say this. If, in fact, this has the attributes, will the Sponsor of the Bill stipulate that the cost of this Bill to the lottery will be $200,000,000 to $300,000,000 in lost revenue?"

"Well, I think the note speaks for itself, Mr. McCracken. I don't believe she has to stipulate to it."

"Well, I'll tell you what I would like to avoid, Mr. Speaker. I would like to avoid a disavowal of this fiscal note, based on its age. That's what I'm trying to avoid. We made a request yesterday. The request yesterday was made on the basis of the Bill in its form as of yesterday. I don't want to be told that this is a fiscal note, and then, on the other hand, be told I can't rely upon it because of its age."

"Right. The question is, and I'm asking the Clerk and the Parliamentarian to check this, if the Bill has not... is in the same form, then it would be appropriate. We're going to check that. Mr. McCracken, I think that the Chair has examined the Amendments. Ms. Davis, this Bill has been amended since the issuance of this fiscal note by the Illinois State Lottery. It think 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987 it appropriately covers the Bill in its form on March 16. If the Bill would have been unamended, I would have ruled this to be an appropriate fiscal note, notwithstanding the date. However, it has been amended. It was amended in Committee on the 30th of April, 1987, and I think, therefore, perhaps you ought to get a more current Amendment, and so, therefore, I will rule that, while this is appropriate for the Bill as originally filed, it is not appropriate for the Bill as amended. Now, Mr. McCracken, did you wish to praise the Chair for that ruling?"

"Mr. Speaker. Solomon-like. Solomon-like. I do note in the statutes, however, no authority for treating what may appear to be a fiscal note as, in fact, a fiscal note. It only states what the attributes of a fiscal note should be."

"Mr. McCracken. Don't push your luck. Mr. Kulas, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker..."

"Excuse me, Mr. Kulas, I wanted to get one other item...I'll be right back to you. Another Bill that we passed over, House Bill 155 on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill..."

"Ms. Breslin, you wish... Ms. Breslin? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 155, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #4 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions with respect to the Amendment."

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments." 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987

"Third Reading. Now there... is there a fiscal note that has been..."

"It says 'Filed' here."

"...requested here. Has it been filed?"

"Fiscal note has been filed."

"Thank you. Third Reading. Mr. Kulas, for what purpose do you seek recognition."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. I would like to waive the posting rules so House Bill 990 can be heard in Energy and Environment this afternoon. It's been cleared with the Minority spokesman on the other side of the aisle."

"The Gentleman asks leave of the House to hear, waive the posting requirements with respect to House Bill 155 (sic - 990) so that it can be heard in the Committee on Environment. Gentleman has leave to use the Attendance Roll Call. The Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Mulcahey."

"Thank you Mr. Speaker. Just a reminder that the Elementary and Secondary Education Committee, which is now is recess, will reconvene tomorrow afternoon at 3:00 in Room C-1. We will pick up where we left off."

"Mr. Preston. For what purpose do you seek recognition, Sir?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just rise for the purpose of an announcement, if I can, to let the members of the Consumer Protection Committee know that there will be a meeting of that Committee tomorrow at 8:00, from 8:00 until 9:00, in Room 118 of the Capitol Building."

"So that's for, that announcement for Counties... for Consumer Protection. The Gentleman from Madison, Mr. Wolf. For what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"For purposes of an announcement, Mr. Speaker. The Pensions Committee will meet this afternoon at 4:30 instead 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day of 4:00, in Room 01."

"Pension Committee then is meeting at 4:30. 4:30 today. The Gentleman from St. Clair, Mr. Flinn. For what purpose do you seek recognition, Sir?"

"Mr. Speaker, just to announce that the recessed meeting of the Financial Institutions will be at 10:30 a.m. tomorrow in Room 118."

"Financial Institutions will meet at 10:30 tomorrow. The Gentleman from Will, Mr. VanDuyne."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just a reminder of the Counties and Townships Committee that we have to be out of our room at 4:00 so I would appreciate it if they would be prompt for our meeting this afternoon."

"The Lady from Lake, Ms. Stern."

"Mr. Speaker, I move to waive the posting requirements on House Bill 990 before the Energy and Environment Committee this afternoon, please."

"The Lady from Lake, Ms. Stern, moves to waive the posting requirements with respect to House Bill 990. Yes. It's already been done."

"Oh, it's been done. I beg your pardon. Thank you."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Turner."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to suspend the posting requirements on House Bill 664."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Turner, moves to suspend the posting requirements with respect to House Bill 664 so that the Bill may be heard at the Committee, at the Select Committee on Housing?"

"Aging. No, this is the one that's going to be Select Committee on Aging tomorrow morning."

"I'm sorry. The Select Committee on Aging."

"Right."

"Is there leave to use the Attendance Roll Call. 43  40th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Leave is granted."

"Now I have..."

"Yes?"

"...three Bills Housing." May 6, 1987 that we need to have reposted in

"Proceed, Sir."

"House Bill 1412, House Bill 2689, and House Bill 2663."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Turner, asks leave of the House to waive the posting requirements with respect to those enumerated Bills. Does the Gentleman have leave to use the Attendance Roll Call? Leave is granted. Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Giorgi. For what purpose do you seek recognition, Sir?"

"Mr. Speaker, I ask leave of the House to waive the posting requirements for House Bill 2612 so that it can be heard in Consumer Protection tomorrow morning."

"The Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Giorgi, asks leave of the House to waive the posting requirements with respect to House Bill 2612. Does the Gentleman have leave to use the Attendance Roll Call? Leave is granted. Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Rice. For what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Do I address this Body for Interim Study? For putting Bills in Interim Study?"

"Are the Bills on the Calendar, or are they in Committee."

"They are in Committee, Sir."

"Then you have to do that in the Committee. The Gentleman from Grundy, Mr. Christensen."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to announce that the Aging Committee will meet tomorrow morning, tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m., Room 118. The Committee on Aging." 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987

"Thank you. Mr. Rice. To return to you for a minute. Is the Committee that you wish to place Bills on Interim Study going to meet again?"

"One of them."

"Turn Mr. Rice on, would you please?"

"One of the Committees, no, Sir."

"Well, on the Committee that is not going to meet again, you would have to do that on the Floor. So you can put your Motion, Sir."

"Mr. Chairman, Let me be sure of that, okay?"

"Sure. We can do it tomorrow. There's no great rush on it. Alright, Mr. Leverenz. For what purpose do you seek recognition."

"The Appropriations I Committee has two postings for tomorrow. One is at 8:00 a.m. and one is at 8:15. Those have now been changed to 10:00 and 10:15. Thank you."

"Appropriations I will meet at 10:00 and 10:15. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Martinez. For what purpose do you seek recognition, Sir?"

"Yes. As chief Sponsor of Bills 2035 and 2056, I wish to table both of these Bills."

"The Gentleman asks leave to table what...2035 and 2036, Mr. Martinez?"

"2035 and 2056."

"2035 and 2056. Gentleman asks leave to table those Bills. Is there objection? There being no objection. Leave is... Mr. McCracken?"

"I object."

"Mr. Martinez, you can move to table them or you can dispose of them at a later date or not call them, either choice is yours. Mr. McCracken has objected to your using the Attendance Roll Call. So, you can... What is your pleasure, Sir?" 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day

"I make a Motion to table these two Bills."

May 6, 1987 "A point of order. It's not in writing and don't let him run down there and write it."

"I think he's got... I think he must have a Democratic staffer next to him that he's talking to there. Mr. McCracken, for what purpose do you seek recognition now?"

"A parliamentary inquiry. Has the Parliamentarian giving some parliamentary advice to the Democratic Member?"

"I'm not sure. I don't... the Chair does not listen to private conversations."

"He can't speak to us. I know."

"Alright. The Motion is withdrawn. Are there further announcements? Agreed Resolutions."

"Senate Joint Resolution 47, offered by Representative Van Duyne. House Joint Resolution 70, by Representative Daley. House Resolution... that was House Joint Resolution 70, offered by Daley. House Resolution 346, Steczo: 347, Ryder: 348, Terzich; and 349, Pullen and McGann."

"Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich."

"Mr. Speaker, these are all of the congratulatory type, and I move the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."

"The Gentleman from Lake moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. Those in favor say "aye", opposed "no". In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it. The Resolutions are adopted. The Gentleman from Madison, Mr. McPike, moves that the House stand adjourn until the hour of 2:00, allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye", those opposed 'no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it, and the House stands adjourned until the hour of 2:00 tomorrow." 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987

"Introduction and First Reading of Bills. House Bill 2882, offered by Representative Currie and Bowman, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2883, Currie and Bowman, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2884, LeFlore and Bowman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. First Reading of the Bill. A Message from the Senate by Mrs. Hawker, Secretary. "Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has passed a Bill of the following title, and passage of which I am instructed to ask concurrence of the House of Representatives to wit: Senate Bill #485, passed the Senate May 6, 1987. Linda Hawker, Secretary." Committee Reports. Representative Christensen, Chairman of the Committee... the Select Committee on Aging, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 5, 1987, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass Consent Calendar House Bill 881; 'be adopted' House Joint Resolution 37. Representative Richmond, Chairman of the Committee on Agriculture, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 5, 1987, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass House Bills 1187 and 2837; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 841, 1042, 1089, 1620, 1725, 1804, 1840 and 2386. Representative Steczo, Chairman of the Committee on Cities and Villages, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 5, 1987, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass House Bills 677, 694, 979, 1006, 1295, 1986 and 2731; 'do pass as amended' House Bill 811; 'do pass Short Debate Calendar' House Bill 1508 and 2774; 'do pass as amended Short Debate Calendar' House Bill 1279 and 2090; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 47  40th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 6, 1987 586, 1413, 1515 and 1541. Representative Preston, Chairman of the Committee on Consumer Protection, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 5, 1987, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 1229 and 2361; 'do pass as amended' House Bills 541, 1699, 1871 and 2011; 'do pass Consent Calendar. House Bill 2362; and 'do pass Short Debate Calendar House Bill 1937 and 2052. Representative Flinn, Chairman of the Committee on Financial Institutions, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 5, 1987, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 576, 1687, 2100, 2415, 2525 and 2540; 'do pass as amended' House Bill 513 and 1358; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 419, 244, 411, 413, 1286 and 2450. Representative White, Chairman of the Committee on Human Services, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 5, 1987, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 337, 1260, 1353, 1794, 1795, 1888 and 2083; 'do pass as amended' House Bill 100, 736 and 1665; 'do pass Consent Calendar' House Bills 372, 1268, 1332, 1455, 1465, 1799, 1988, 2021 and 2401; 'do pass as amended Consent Calendar' House Bills 639, 934, 982, 1336, 1646, 1811, 1934, 1992 and 2682; 'do pass as amended Short Debate Calendar' House Bill 1242; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 78, 130, 200, 201, 379, 499, 734, 735, 737, 738, 740, 741, 742, 743, 901, 926, 984, 986. That was 984, 986, 987, 1067, 1106, 1138, 1212, 1334, 1366, 1470, 1522, 1580, 1586, 1619, 1639, 1655, 1713, 1782, 1783, 1735, 17... Check that. 1935, 1936, 2078, 2097, 2285, 2365, 2408, 2411, 2500, 2596 and 2684. Representative Laurino, Chairman of the Committee on Insurance, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 5, 1987, reported the same 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987 back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 1164, 2267, 2768 and 2789; 'do pass as amended' House Bills 24, 292, 2437 and 2836; 'do pass Short Debate Calendar' House Bills 1391, 1540, 1839, 1852 and 2838; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 912, 1323, 1360, 1361, 1554, 1595, 2271, 2467, 2499 and 2792. Representative Levin, Chairman of the Committee on Public Utilities, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 5, 1987, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 41, 401, 715, 942, 1419 and 2152; 'do pass as amended' House Bill 748; 'tabled by rule 26(d)' House Bill 215; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 354, 618, 752, 938, 1657, 2130, 2140, 2204, 2395, 2420, 2473, 2565, 2589 and 2599. Senate Bills First Reading. Senate Bill 485, offered by Representative Leverenz, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for asbestos abatement. First Reading of the Bill. Perfunctory Session will stand at ease awaiting Committee Reports. Perfunctory Session will be back in order. Committee Reports. Representative Huff, Chairman of the Committee on Election Law, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 6, 1987, reported the same back with the following recommendation: 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 373, 1147 and 1518. Representative Farley, Chairman of the Committee on Labor and Commerce, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 6, 1987, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 1007, 1848, 2991 and 2404; 'be adopted' House Resolution 333; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 86, 119, 141, 150, 182, 195, 276, 277, 278, 279, 282, 287, 289, 290, 311, 325, 342, 458, 498, 519, 533, 550, 602, 604, 619, 622, 624, 630, 633, 723, 879, 921, 929, 970, 1008, 1048, 1061, 1069, 1088, 1099, 1103, 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day May 6, 1987 1111, 1117, 1165, 1192, 1208, 1214,1215, 1230, 1261, 1287, 1296, 1335, 1352, 1354, 1379, 1390, 1400, 1407, 1408, 1442, 1445, 1448, 1453, 1457, 1460, 1482, 1604, 1609, 1711, 1800, 1857, 1929, 1964, 1965, 1967, 1993, 2029, 2089, 2115, 2191, 2252 2253, 2431, 2432, 2442, 2447, 2448, 2515, 2564, 2598, 2614, 2648, 2649, 2650, 2651, 2652, 2653, 2676, 2835, and House Resolution 204. The Perfunctory Session will stand at ease. Being no further business in the Perfunctory Session, the Session will now adjourn." 50  05/26/87 10:58 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 06, 1987 PAGE 2 HB-0001 THIRD READING PAGE 9 HB-0005 SECOND READING PAGE 17 HB-0016 SECOND READING PAGE 18 HB-0039 RECALLED PAGE 13 HB-0039 THIRD READING PAGE 13 HB-0039 THIRD READING PAGE 14 HB-0077 SECOND READING PAGE 25 HB-0080 SECOND READING PAGE 26 HB-0080 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 26 HB-0116 SECOND READING PAGE 26 HB-0116 HELD ON SECOND PAGE 26 HB-0143 SECOND READING PAGE 26 HB-0144 SECOND READING PAGE 30 HB-0144 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 30 HB-0144 DISCUSSED PAGE 39 HB-0155 SECOND READING PAGE 41 HB-0161 SECOND READING PAGE 31 HB-0161 HELD ON SECOND PAGE 31 HB-0176 SECOND READING PAGE 31 HB-0689 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-0898 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-1015 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-1038 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-1104 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-1249 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-1300 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-1337 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-1454 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-1464 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-1875 SECOND READING PAGE 3 HB-1945 SECOND READING PAGE 3 HB-1955 SECOND READING PAGE 3 HB-2012 SECOND READING PAGE 3 HB-2022 SECOND READING PAGE 3 HB-2066 SECOND READING PAGE 3 HB-2167 SECOND READING PAGE 3 HB-2183 SECOND READING PAGE 3 HB-2222 SECOND READING PAGE 3 HB-2230 SECOND READING PAGE 3 HB-2359 SECOND READING PAGE 3 HB-2360 SECOND READING PAGE 3 HB-2367 SECOND READING PAGE 3 HB-2369 SECOND READING PAGE 3 HB-2370 SECOND READING PAGE 3 HB-2371 SECOND READING PAGE 3 HB-2372 SECOND READING PAGE 3 HB-2389 SECOND READING PAGE 4 HB-2414 SECOND READING PAGE 4 HB-2604 SECOND READING PAGE 4 HB-2642 SECOND READING PAGE 4 HB-2802 SECOND READING PAGE 4 HB-2813 SECOND READING PAGE 4 HB-2820 SECOND READING PAGE 4 HB-2821 SECOND READING PAGE 4 HB-2827 SECOND READING PAGE 4 HB-2839 SECOND READING PAGE 4 HB-2872 SECOND READING PAGE 4 HB-2882 FIRST READING PAGE 47 HB-2883 FIRST READING PAGE 47 HB-2884 FIRST READING PAGE 47 HR-0327 ADOPTED PAGE 6 HR-0327 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 5  05/26/87 10:58 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 06, 1987 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER - REPRESENTATIVE GREIMAN PAGE 1 PRAYER - FATHER ROBERT ERICKSON PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 1 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 46 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 46 PERFUNCTORY SESSION PAGE 47 MESSAGE FROM SENATE PAGE 47 COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 47 PERFUNCTORY SESSION - ADJOURNMENT PAGE 50 PAGE 2