Illinois House Floor Debate — May 15, 1987

"Ladies and Gentlemen, we are about to open Session. I wanted to advise the Members that we will be, after opening Session, we will go into Perfunctory for about 1/2 hour, so that the Bills on the Consent Calendar, Order of Third Reading, may be read a third time, so that there will about a 1/2 hour in Perfunct time after we open the Session. There will also need to be requests for Bills that are now on the Order of Third Reading which need technical Amendments. Many of you, last night, may have listed your Bills, and you will have to do it again this morning. Accordingly, you will have time ... there will be a list at the well for you to put the name of any ... the number of any Bill that is on the Order of Third Reading, Consent Calendar, which must be brought back to the Order of Second Reading for a technical Amendment. Your Bills can ... we intend to be voting on these later on in the morning, so it is critical that the Clerk be advised of those Bills which require technical Amendments. Having said that, the House will be in Session. Members will be at their desks. The Chaplain for today will be Rabbi Barry Marks of Temple Israel in Springfield. Rabbi Marks is a guest of Representative Michael Curran. The guests in the gallery may wish to rise for the invocation. Rabbi Marks?"

"We thank You for this lovely day, for the beauty and orderliness of Your world, which stirs in us a sense of awe and wonder. Above all, we are grateful for the sense of renewal which each day brings to us. At every moment, we are sustained by Your presence and Your love, and every day brings us new opportunities and possibilities. This is a busy time for the Members of this Body, who must gather to deliberate and decide the issues which touch upon the lives and well-being of the citizens of this state - a busy 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 time, too, for those who have come to observe, to visit, and to see the sights of this state's capital city. It is good to pause in our busy schedules to acknowledge our dependence on You, and to ask for Your continued gifts of courage and wisdom. Help us to attain a sense of perspective, that we might see our lives, the decisions we make, the many roles we play, in the commitments that we have made, from Your point of view, that we might enhance life, and further the building of a just and peaceful society. Guide us, watch over us, and bless us with Your light, for by that light, do we see light. Amen."

"The Gentleman from McLean, Mr. Ropp, will lead us in the Pledge."

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Mr. Matijevich, are there any excused absences on the Democratic side?"

"None on this side, Mr. Speaker?"

"Yes, Mr. Piel, are there any excused absences on the Republican side? Perhaps you can tell us, if you know, how Fred Tuerk is doing, and how Ms. Cowlishaw is doing?"

"Representative Tuerk and Representative Cowlishaw are the only two excused absences, and at the present time, we do not have any further news, but as soon as we get it, we will report it to the Body."

"We will be glad to hear it. Thank you very much. Mr. Clerk, take the record. 116 Members having answered to the call of the quorum, a quorum is present. Ladies and Gentlemen, I will try to explain how we are going to handle the Consent Calendar and I will make this 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 explanation later, however, as well. It is the intention of the Chair after the Perfunctory Session when all of the Bills have been read on the Order of Third Reading to go to those Bills that require amendment on Third Reading that must be brought back to the Order of Second Reading. After we have finished that, there will be an hour for the Leadership on both sides of the aisle to again look at the Consent Calendar Bills as they have been finally amended in their final form. Then a new Calendar, assuming that some may be removed from the Consent Calendar, a new Calendar will then be distributed to the Members and after an hour we will vote on the Consent Calendar. We will then, thereafter, have two hours within which to advise the Clerk, on forms that will be prepared and furnished you, that you wish to vote 'no', or 'present', or be recorded as 'not voting'. In other words, we will be originally voting as we always do on the Consent Calendar, and then you will be amending that vote later on and you will be given what is, in a sense, individual score cards, so that you may register your votes appropriately. We hope that within the next ... by the time we finish the Perfunctory Session, you will have on your desks the long synopsis of the Bill, so that you may use them in determining your vote. Thank you. Mr. Clerk? Mr. Matijevich, the Gentleman from Lake, on a Motion on the Journal."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I move that we dispense with the reading of the Journal and the following Journals to be approved: Journal #25 of April 1; #26 of April 2; #27 of April 6; #28 of April 7; #29 of April 8; #30 of April 9; #31 of April 10; #32 of April 17; #33 of April 21; #34 of April 22 and #35 of April 23, 1987."

"The Gentleman from Lake moves for the 3  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 adoption of the Journals, and waives the reading of the Journals. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Motion is adopted. Mr. Clerk, we are now going into Perfunctory Session for 1/2 hour for the reading of Bills on Consent Calendar on the Order of Third Reading."

"Consent Calendar, Third Reading. House Bill 62, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 72, a Bill for an Act to amend the Water Use Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 142, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedures. Second ... Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 155, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 164, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 181, a Bill for an Act to create the Small Business Litigation Expense Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 188, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to rate of interest. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 232, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to require prompt payment by the State of Illinois. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 249, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to county officers. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 252, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Identification Card Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 262, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unified Code of Corrections. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 266, a Bill for an Act to amend the Mobile Home Landlord and Tenant Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 269, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 272, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Food and Drug and Cosmetic Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 328, a Bill 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 for an Act to amend the Mobile Home Landlord and Tenants Rights Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 345, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 380, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 394, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 406, a Bill for an Act to amend the Uniform Anatomical Gift Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 410, a 3ill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 422, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 425, a Bill for an Act to amend the River Conservancy District Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 454, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Community College Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 457, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relation to fences. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 461, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 464, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to child's death. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 472, a Bill for an Act in relation to certain canal lands in LaSalle County. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 474, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 479, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 523, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 542, a Bill for an Act to create the Illinois Trade Secret Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 549, a Bill for an Act to amend the Juvenile Court Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 560, a Bill for an Act in relation to transient merchants. Third 5  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 Reading of the Bill. House Bill 593, a Bill for an Act to amend the Township Law. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 613, a Bill for an Act to amend the Hospital Licensing Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 643, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. Third Reading of the 3ill. House Bill 644, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 645, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House dill 672, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 688, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 691, a Bill for an Act creating the Illinois Summer School for Agriculture. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 694, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to fire protection districts. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 730, a Bill for an Act to amend the Vital Records Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 744, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 755, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Manufactured Home and Mobile Home Safety Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 787, a Bill for an Act to create the Juvenile Court Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 801, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Highway Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 813, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Community College Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 823, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 824, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 840, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Records Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 863, a Bill for an Act in relation to compensation of Members of 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 the General Assembly. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 930, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning Conveyances. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 948, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 978, a Bill for an Act to amend the Minority and Female Business Enterprise Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 980, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to state revenue sharing of local governmental entities. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1014, a Bill for an Act in relation to the rehabilitation of disabled persons. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1018, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act creating the Board of Higher Education. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1031, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1032, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to state finance. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1092, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1109, a Bill for an Act to revise the law in relation to power of attorney. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1110, a Bill for an Act to provide for a simplified form of durable power of attorney. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1116, a Bill for an Act to create the State Universities Civil Service System. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1118, a Bill for an Act to amend the Mobile Home Landlord and Tenant Rights Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1120, a Bill for an Act relating to Criminal Background Checks for Substitute Teachers. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1123, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Library System Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1133, a Bill for an Act in relation to the effect of tax rate changes on business in this state. Third Reading of the 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 Bill. House Bill 1185, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Highway Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1188, a Bill for an Act to amend the Mobile Home Landlords and Tenants Rights Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1194, a Bill for an Act to amend the Minority and Female Business Enterprise Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1216, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1237, a Bill for an Act to amend Township Law. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1238, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1244, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1256, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to provide for the creation of management of forest preserve districts. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1259, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to provide for licensing and regulating certain games of chance. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1265, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1274, a Bill for an Act to amend the Retailers' Occupation Tax Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1288, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1297, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Physical Therapy Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1317, a Bill for an Act in relation to Creating of Identifying Number System for Documentation of Federal Funds. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill Bill 1319, a Bill for an Act to amend the Pharmacy Practice Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1342, a Bill for an Act to amend the Juvenile Court Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1344, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Highway Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1349, 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois/Michigan Canal National Corridor Civic Center Authority of Cook County Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1371, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. That was 1351, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1373, a Bill for an Act to create the Bowdre Township Metropolitan Exhibition Auditorium and Office Building Authority. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1376, a Bill for an Act concerning Land Titles. First Reading ... Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1386, a Bill for an Act relating to certain advertising. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1419, a Bill for an Act concerning taxes on certain business and enterprise zones. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1421, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Nursing Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1438, a Bill for an Act to revise the law in relation to recorders. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1462, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1471, a Bill for an Act to amend the Professional Service Corporation Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1494, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Enterprise Zone Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1497, a Bill for an Act to amend the Township Law. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1500, a Bill for an Act to amend the Animal Control Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1504, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1509, a Bill for an Act to amend the Sanitary District Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1540, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1548, a Bill for an Act to amend the Humane Care for Animal Act. Third Reading 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 of the Bill. House Bill 1560, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Administrative Procedure Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1563, a Bill for an Act to amend the Beer Industry Fair Dealing Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1578, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Parentage Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1581, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1584, a Bill for an Act in relation to Drilling Operations. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1602, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Library Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1603, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1605, a Bill for an Act in relation to state monies. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1616, a Bill for an Act to amend the Mobile Home Landlords and Tenants Rights Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1628, a Bill for an Act to amend the Bill of Rights of Victims and Witnesses of Violent Crimes Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1625, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1652, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1667, a Bill for an Act in relation to the Collection and Disposal of Household Hazardous Waste. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1680, a Bill for an Act to amend the Employee/Ownership Assistance Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1681, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1693, a Bill for an Act to amend the Court of Claims Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1701, A Bill for an Act to create Sanitary Districts. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1727, a Bill for an Act to 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 amend the Liquor Control Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1736, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First (sic-Third) Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1742, a Bill for an Act to amend the Asbestos Abatement Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1753, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1758, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Highway Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1760, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1767, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1771, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First (sic-Third) Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1798, a Bill for an Act in relation to Foreign Trade Zones. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1832, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1836, a Bill for an Act to amend the Campground Licensing Recreation Area Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1866, a Bill for an Act to create the Committee on Release of Genetic Engineered Organisms. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1901, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1909, a Bill for an Act to amend the Animal Control Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1922, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act requiring certain custodians of public monies to file and publish statements. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1924, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to establish a Joint Legislative Reference Bureau. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1940, a Bill for an Act to amend the Probate Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1953, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the 11  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 Bill. House Bill 1959, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1998, a Bill for an Act to amend the Regency University Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2011, a Bill for an Act relating to the sale of franchise. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2031, a Bill for an Act in relation to public employees. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2032, a Bill for an Act relating to workers' compensation. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2033, a Bill for an Act relating to unemployment insurance. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2046, a Bill for an Act in relation to the conveyance of certain state lands. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2052, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2060, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2062, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relation to husband and wife. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2084, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2100, a Bill for an Act to amend the Uniform Disposition of Unclaimed Property Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2123, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Banking Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2146, a Bill for an Act to amend the Consumer Fraud and Deceptive Business Practice Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2151, a Bill for an Act to amend the Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2166, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Credit Union Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2180, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unified Code of Corrections. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2201, a Bill for an Act to amend the Boat Registration and Safety Act. Third Reading 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 of the Bill. House Bill 2202, a Bill for an Act to amend the Boat Registration and Safety Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2208, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2209, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2211, a Bill for an Act to amend the Consumer Installment Loan Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2218, a Bill for an Act to amend the Fish Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2226, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Printing Contract Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2230, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2236, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Natural Areas Preservation Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2243, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2248, a Bill for an Act creating the Board of Higher Education. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2249, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2258, a Bill for an Act to amend the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Confidentiality Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2304, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning lifetime hunting and fishing licenses. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2319, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2323, a Bill for an Act in relation to school buses. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2326, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to vital records. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2330, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to custody and disposition of certain property possessed by law enforcement agencies. Third Reading of the Bill. House 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 Bill 2332, a Bill for an Act to amend the Professional Boxing and Wrestling Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2340, a Bill for an Act to amend the Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2341, a Bill for an Act to amend the Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2342, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2353, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to repeal the School Code Sections of the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2354, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2379, a Bill for an Act to amend the Soil and Water Conservation District Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2380, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pesticide Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2414, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the rehabilitation of disabled persons. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2428, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Purchasing Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2436, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2446, a Bill for an Act to create the Illinois Procurement Institute. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2454, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Mortgage Insurance Fund Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2476, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2477, a Bill for an Act to amend the Motor Vehicle Retail Installment Sales Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2511, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2530, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to investment of public funds. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2533, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Banking Act. 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2537, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2574, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2576, a Bill for an Act to amend the County Jail Good Behavior Allowance Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2577, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2590, a Bill for an Act to amend the Bill of Rights for Victims and Witnesses of Violent Crimes Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2619, a Bill for an Act to amend the Probate Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2625, a Bill for an Act to amend the Fish Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2643, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Human Rights Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2645, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2655, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2680, a Bill for an Act in relation to processing by the state of contributions. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2699, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Identification Card Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2717, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2718, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2727, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2729, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2745, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2749, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relation to counties. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2758, a Bill for an Act to amend the 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2766, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pre-Need Cemetery Sales Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2785, a Bill for an Act in relation to destruction of records by circuit clerks. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2788, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Banking Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2789, a Bill for an Act to amend the Insurance Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2790, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Banking Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2783, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the acquisition of the administration of trusts for trust companies. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2795, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to banking. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2806, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Banking Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2807, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Low-level Radioactive Waste Management Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2808, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to Department of Mental Health. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2823, a Bill for an Act to amend the Retailers' Occupation Tax Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2834, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to state employees group insurance. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2838, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2849, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Low-level Radioactive Waste Management Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2852, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Act on the Aging. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2865, a Bill for an Act to amend the Community Currency Exchange Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2867, a Bill for an 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 Act to amend the Illinois Savings and Loan Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2868, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Savings and Loan Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2871, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Savings and Loan Act. Third Reading of the Bill. Consent Calendar, Third Reading, Third Day (sic-Second Day), appearing on the regular Calendar, page 50. House Bill 848, a Bill for an Act to amend the Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 837, a Bill for an Act to transfer the administration of the Illinois Mental Health Institutes. Third Reading of the Bill. The first Bill was 848, then 887. House Bill 919, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 978, a Bill for an Act to amend the Minority and Female Business Enterprise Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1031, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1194, a Bill for an Act to amend the Minority and Female Business Enterprise Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1317, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise ... in relation to the creation of identifying number system for documentation of federal funds. ds. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1495 (sic-1485), a Bill for an Act to amend an Act enabling the University of Illinois to qualify for federal funds. Third Reading of the Bill. That was 1485. House Bill 1832, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1869, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1913, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to powers and duties of the Comptroller. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1956, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois State 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 Collection Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2027, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2151, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2256, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to repeal various provisions relating to inactive committees and boards. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2258, a Bill for an Act to amend the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Confidentiality Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2470, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Emergency Services and Disaster Agency Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2670, a Bill for an Act to amend the Minority and Female Business Enterprise Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2808, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the Department of Mental Health. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2834, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to State Employees Group Insurance. Third Reading of the Bill."

"I would remind the Members to come to the well and note those Bills that are on the Order of Consent Calendar, Third Reading that are to be turned to the Order of Second Reading for a technical Amendment. Even if you indicated last night, the number of a Bill, you must do it again this morning. We will be intermittently returning to this Order of Business on those Bills that require return to the Order of Second Reading. The House will be in Session, be back in Session. We will be on the Order of House Bills Third Reading, Consent Calendar. That will be on Supplemental Calendar 1, the yellow Calendar, and we will be doing a call that will encompass those Bills on the Order of Third Reading that will have to be brought back to the Order of Second Reading. On that Order appears House 18  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 Bill, on page 2 of the Supplemental Calendar, House Bill 181, Mr. Clerk. The Gentleman from Bureau, Mr. Mautino moves to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purpose of Amendment. Leave is granted. Mr. Clerk, Amendments? Mr. Mautino, did you return this for an Amendment or to table an Amendment? Mr. Mautino?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe that Amendment #2, if the Clerk will check, Amendment #2 was requested by the drafting upstairs, and I don't think it fits in with Amendment #1. So, therefore, I move to table #2."

"The Bills are not here yet. So, we'll take it out of the record. We'll get back to you. We'll come back to it, Mr. Mautino. On this Order appears House Bill 560 on page 3 of the Calendar. Mr. Mautino moves to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading. Leave for the return to the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, any Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Anthony Young."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Young."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #1 is a technical Amendment. It just states that the Bill does not apply to anyone holding a valid license issued by a county and municipality. I move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment #1. Is there any discussion? There being none. the question is... Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Mr. Mautino moves that the House waive Rule 37(b) so this Bill may be heard on this day. Gentlemen have leave to use the Attendance Roll Call? 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 On this Order of Business appears House Bill 266. Mr. Klemm moves to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purpose of Amendment. Gentlemen have leave? Leave is granted. Mr. Clerk, other Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5, offered by Representative Klemm."

"The Gentleman from McHenry, Mr. Klemm, on Amendment #5."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. LRB had neglected to add the word ... one word in the Amendment, and I move its adoption."

"The Gentleman from McHenry, Mr. Klemm, moves for the adoption of Amendment #5 to House Bill 266. And on that, is there any discussion? The question is, 'Should this Amendment be adopted?' Those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Mr. Klemm moves that the House waive provisions of Rule 37(b) so this item may be heard today. Leave to use the Attendance Roll Call. Leave is granted. On this Order appears House Bill 422. Ms. Younge, the Lady from St. Clair, moves to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purpose of Amendment. She have leave? Leave is granted. Mr. Clerk, other Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Wyvetter Younge."

"The Lady from St. Clair, Ms. Younge, on Amendment #1."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Amendment #1 exempts municipalities over a million. I move for the adoption of the Amendment." 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987

"The Lady from St. Clair moves for the adoption of Amendment 31 to House Bill 422. There being no discussion... oh, I'm sorry. The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken?"

"In the Bill, originally, this would require fire trucks to be inspected for safety twice a year?"

"In the ... yes. Right now fire trucks are exempted from the semi-annual inspection, and the Bill now will require them to be inspected twice a year."

"Are fire trucks in Chicago more safe than fire trucks in other parts of the state?"

"Yes, exceedingly more safe. They have an excellent fire inspection program and, therefore, the firefighters believe that it is not needed there."

"Well then I suppose if they are safer in Chicago, we don't need them to be inspected."

"The question is, "Shall the Amendment be adopted?" All those in favor signify by saying 'aye", those opposed 'no". In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. The Lady from St. Clair moves to waive the provisions of Rule 37(b) so that this matter be heard on this day. She have leave to use the Attendance Roll Call? Leave is granted. On this Order of Business appears House Bill 472. Ms. Breslin? Mr. Clerk ... the Lady from LaSalle moves to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purpose of Amendment. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments? I'm sorry. The Lady has leave. Mr. Clerk, any Amendments?"

"We don't find anything on 472."

"Ms. Breslin, yes, are there Amendments filed to this Bill?" 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

"There is an May 15, 1987 Amendment filed to House Bill 472. You have the wrong number up there."

"472. 472 ... That's the Bill I announced we were returning to the Order of Second Reading, 472."

"I think you announced it correctly, but there is an Amendment filed. You are looking for 472."

"Mr. Clerk?"

"Amendments #1 and #2 have been adopted."

"Okay. Why don't we take the Bill out of the record then, and I'll clear it up."

"Alright. Let's take this Bill out of the record. We'll come back to it. On this Order of Business ... yes, we'll move this back ... Bill back to the Order of Third Reading and return to it a little later. Ms. Breslin, on this Order of Business also appears the ... on page 11 of the Calendar, House Bill 2304. The Lady from LaSalle, Ms. Breslin, asks leave of the House to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purpose of Amendment. She has leave. Mr. Clerk, other Amendments? Ms. Breslin?"

"We're just waiting for the Amendment."

"You looked eager."

"Amendment #1 was adopted; #2 was withdrawn."

"Yes, Ms. Breslin?"

"I would like to present Amendment #2, please."

"#2 was withdrawn, previously."

"Well, now I don't wish to withdraw it. Or having voted on the prevailing side, do I need to do that? It was withdrawn at one time. Can't it be presented now? All this Amendment does is correct a spelling error. Amendment #2 corrects a spelling error."

"Mr. McCracken, for what purpose do you arise?"

"I have seen the Amendment, and I agree that's what it 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 does. I have no objection to her adding it, so let's put it on and get going."

"I move for the adoption of Amendment #2."

"The Lady from LaSalle moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 2304. There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted? All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. The Lady asks leave of the House to waive Rule ... provisions of Rule 37-B so this Bill may be considered today. The leave is granted by use of the Attendance Roll Call. One of the Members put on this list to House Bill 2636, which is not on the Consent Calendar. On this Order of Business appears House Bill 1509, on page 7 of the Calendar. The Gentleman from Henry, Mr. Sieben asks leave of the House to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purpose of an Amendment. Leave is granted. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Sieben."

"The Gentleman from Henry, Mr. Sieben."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #2 is simply a technical provision to add for the closing up of the affairs for a sanitary district dissolved under the 1917 Act. I move for approval of Amendment #2."

"The Gentleman from Henry moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 1509. And on that, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton?"

"Yes, will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will." 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

"Representative Sieben, Amendment £2, May 15, 1987 strike that. How does Amendment #2 differ from Amendment #1?"

"There is no difference."

"Okay, and Amendment 1 was withdrawn. Is that correct?"

"That's correct."

"Why was Amendment #1 withdrawn, and then by yourself presumably, and then why are you advancing to Amendment #22日

"The reason ... the reason Amendment l was withdrawn, is at the time that the Bill was called, and they announced that Amendment #1 was offered by me, I had not seen the draft of the Amendment and was not sure that it was what we had intended to do. So, for that reason I withdrew the Amendment."

"Okay, so, therefore, you never explained Amendment Sieben: #L, which is more than just a technical Amendment, you'd agree, and now you are advancing to Amendment #2 without explaining what it does. Now, we have never debated the merits of Amendment #2, and that's what I would like you to do now."

"Alright, would you like further explanation? Okay." "What was your explanation? I move for the of it?" adoption

"To Amendment #2? You would like the explanation of Amendment #2?"

"Did you give one already?"

"Yes."

"What did you say? I move for the adoption Amendment #2?" of

"Yes, I did. I said Amendment #2 adds provisions for the closing up of the affairs for a sanitary district dissolved under the 1917 Act. Identical provisions are contained in 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day the Sanitary District Act of 1936." Cullerton: What May 15, 1987 "Okay, can I ask you a question? happens if liabilities exceed assets? It would seem that all bonds, and all contracts entered into would be discharged. Is that correct?"

"The taxing powers would continue, I would assume, in the Village of Wataga. in this case, until they were able to pay all of their liabilities."

"No, my question was, if you understood it, what happens if liabilities exceed assets?"

"It could not be dissolved, it's my understanding, that until the affairs were cleaned up. As a condition of dissolving the district, they would have to have all their affairs cleaned up."

"Mr. Speaker, I think that ... you see what we have here is a substantive Amendment, and I don't know what the ground rules are with regard to a substantive Amendment. I would like to have to avoid having to knock the Bill off the Consent Calendar, so if you could just take it out of the record for a few minutes, until we can discuss the Amendment."

Speaker Greiman: "Well, the Gentleman from Henry, if that's his desire, of course, we will do that, but it is his call, and he understands that the Bill will be taken off the order."

"Yes, we can take this out of the record at this point, if you wish."

"Alright, out of the record. One of the Members has also asked that House Bill 868 be called, which is also not on the Supplemental #1. Yes, this Bill, 1509, will be returned to the Order of Third Reading, now. Alright, we will now return to House Bill 472, on page three of the Calendar. The Lady from LaSalle, Ms. Breslin, again moves to return this to the Order of Second Reading for the 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day purposes of an Amendment. Ms. Breslin adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 472. the Lady from LaSalle, Ms. Breslin." you, May 15, 1987 moves for the And on that,

This Breslin: "Thank Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. Amendment was requested by the Department of Conservation. They want to clarify that any contract entered into by the City of Ottawa would be subject to any and all applicable federal or state law or restrictive covenant. That's all the Amendment does. I agree to the Amendment, and I move for its adoption."

"The Lady from LaSalle moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 472. Ms. Breslin, the computer screen indicates that on May 12th this Amendment was adopted, but we will, nonetheless, adopt it right now, so that there can be no question that this important Amendment has been adopted to this Bill. The question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No Further Amendments."

"Third Reading. The Lady from LaSalle asks leave of the House to waive the provisions of Rule 37(b) so that this Bill may be heard on this day. Leave is granted using the Attendance Roll Call. Ladies and Gentlemen, let me again remind you that if you have a Bill on the Consent Calendar, which is Supplemental Calendar #1, the yellow Calendar, which must be returned to the Order of Second Reading for an Amendment, please come to the well and note the Bill, so that we may return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading, put on your technical Amendment, and then return it to Third Reading, so that it may be heard today. Now, Ladies and Gentlemen, on page 19 of the Calendar, on Special Order of Business, House Bills Second Reading 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEЗАТЕ 47th Legislative Day Public Health appears House Bill 100. On that Order appears House Bill 337. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill Mr. Clerk 337, Hay 15, 1987 Out of the record. Mr. Stange, 337. a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relation to Blood Banks. Second Reading of the Bil1. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendment?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representatives Stange and White."

"The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. Stange, on Amendment #1."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 is a very simple Amendment. It's the... donors a member of the immediate family of the recipient. This was written by the Democratic Staff, and both sides have agreed to it."

"The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. Stange, moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 337. And on that, the Lady from Cook, Ms. Pullen."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. It's my understanding that the Gentleman made an agreement with the Committee to put this Amendment on in order to get his Bill out of Committee. I think that that was most unfortunate, because I think that his Bill was far superior without restricting this program to simply family members, and I will personally be voting 'no' on that basis, but I am not going attempt to defeat his Amendment, because of his agreement with the Committee." to

"There being no further discussion, the Gentleman from DuPage to close Mr. Stange."

"Thank you, Hr. Speaker. This is the first blood donor Bill that's been coming up in the House this year. It's an effective way to control the blood donor programs. It's 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 very effective, and I would appreciate your vote."

"The question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Oh, I'm sorry, Mr. White? Did you wish to..."

"I was off the Floor, Mr. Speaker, and I would like to know if you could go back to my Bill, 100."

"Yes, we will go back to it."

"Thank you."

"The Amendment is adopted. Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 566. Mr. McGann in the chamber? Mr. McGann, 566? Yes. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 566, a Bill for an Act to amend the Hospital Licensing Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 627, Mr. Farley, Mr. Farley? Out of the record. On this Order appears House Bill ... Mr. Sutker, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Mr. Speaker, if it is appropriate at this time, I would like to move for House Bill 1110 which is on the Consent Calendar. I would like to move it to the table at this time."

"You are the Sponsor of House Bill 1110."

"I'm the Sponsor. I'm the Sponsor. It is pursuant to an understanding and agreement I have."

"The Gentleman asks leave to table House Bill 1110. Being the principal Sponsor of that Bill, there 28  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 being no objection, the Bill is tabled. On this Order of Business appears House Bill 736. Out of the record. The next Order of Business appears House Bill 814. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 814, a Bill for an Act to prohibit the discharge of employees. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 842. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 842, a Bill for an Act in relation to powers of attorneys governing personnel and health care matters. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Sutker."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Sutker, on Amendment #1."

"Mr. Speaker, this Amendment ..."

"Excuse me, Mr. Sutker. Mr. McCracken, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We don't have a copy of this. Has this been printed and distributed?"

"I am advised it has not. Mr. Sutker, would you like to take this out of the record? Alright, this Bill is out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading - Public Health appears House Bill 1225. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Mr. McNamara? Is Mr. McNamara in the chamber? Alright, Mr. McNamara ... read the Bill."

"House Bill 1225, a Bill for an Act to amend the Critical Health Problems and Comprehensive Health Education 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 1260, Mr. Mays. Mr. Clerk, read the bill."

"House Bill 1260, a Bill for an Act to amend the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Code. Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

Second Speaker Greiman: "Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 1268. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1268, a Bill for an Act in relation to Second Reading of the Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome. the Bil1. No Committee Amendments."

Mays." "Floor Amendments?" "Floor Amendment 1. offered by Representative

"Mr. Mays? Mr. McCracken?"

"According to our records, Floor Amendment #1 is Pullen."

"Excuse me, I have got the wrong Bill. Amendment #1, offered by Representative Pullen."

"Ms. Pullen?"

"Withdraw Amendment #1, please."

"Amendment #1, withdrawn."

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative

Pullen. Speaker Greiman: "Ms. Pullen? Withdrawn."

"Mr. Speaker, if you will give me one moment to figure out all the numbers of my Amendments, I can make it on one moment. 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

"Proceed." May 15, 1987

"I would ask leave to withdraw Amendment #2, #3, 34, 5. #6. I don't see Amendment #7 in the file. I am assuming it's mine, but I better not include it until I know. 38, 9, #10, #11, #12 and #13 and if the Clerk could advise me whether I am the Sponsor of #7."

"Yes, you are."

"Alright, also include please, 37. I would ask leave to withdraw those Amendments."

"The Amendments #2 through #13, inclusive are withdrawn. Mr. Clerk, further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #14, offered by Representative Greiman."

"Yes, Ms. Pullen, would you take that for me? A historic first."

"Well, it's not quite a first, Hr. Speaker. You and I have agreed on one other issue. Constitutional Amendment Call, we are both opposed to that."

"Proceed, Ms. Pullen."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Amendment would add the provisions of House Bill 2667 to this otherwise fine Bill, and it would provide that if blood is ... it requires the Department to provide by rule for the testing of blood for evidence of exposure to Human Immune Deficiency Virus, and to include in their rules, requirements for the disposal of the blood showing positive exposure. Unless a research facility that is licensed by the state, requested in writing the use of the blood for AIDS research, and then it provides for record keeping in terms of the disposition of the blood. And in all other respects, it is identical to the original based Bill of 1268."

"Thank you. The Lady from Cook, Ms. Pullen, 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 moves for the adoption of Amendment #14 to House Bill 1268. And on that. is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?" All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 1310. Mr. Berrios? Out of the record. On this Order appears House Bill 1415, Mr. McCracken. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1415, a Bill for an Act to amend the Rights of Conscience Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 1467. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1467, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative White."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. White, on Amendment #1."

"Could you take ... Mr. Speaker, could you take it out of the record? I can't find my Amendment."

"Alright, Amendment number ... this Bill is out of the record. Mr. White, did you wish to proceed with House Bill 100? Alright, we'll take that at this time, then. On this Order appears House Bill 100. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987

"House Bill 100, a Bill for an Act in relation to the Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #2 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions with respect to Amendment #2?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Ryder and Wojcik."

"The Gentleman from Morgan, Mr. Ryder, on Amendment #3. Mr. Ryder? Amendment #3 withdrawn? Alright, withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Pullen."

"Ms. Pullen, Amendment #4."

"Withdraw Amendment #4, please."

"Withdraw #4. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5, offered by Representative Goforth."

"Mr. Goforth? Withdrawn."

"Floor Amendment #6, offered by Representative Stephens."

"The Gentleman From St. Clair. Amendment is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #7, offered by Representative Wojcik and Ryder."

"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Wojcik. Amendment is withdrawn."

"Floor Amendment #8, offered by Representative Ryder."

"The Gentleman From Morgan. The Amendment is withdrawn."

"Floor Amendment #9, offered by Representative Stephens." 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

"The Gentleman from St. Clair withdraws the Amendment."

"Floor Amendment #10, offered by Representative Capparelli and Barger."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Capparelli. Mr. Barger, the Gentleman from DuPage?"

"Withdrawn."

"The Amendment is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #11, offered by Representative Parcells."

"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Parcells."

"Please withdraw that Amendment."

"The Lady asks leave to withdraw Amendment #11. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #12, offered by Ms. Frederick."

"The Lady from Lake, Ms. Frederick, withdraws the Amendment. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #13, offered by Representative Ryder."

"The Gentleman from Horgan withdraws the Amendment."

"Floor Amendment #14, offered by Representative Pullen."

"The Lady from Cook withdraws the Amendment."

"Amendment #15, offered by Representative Goforth."

"Gentleman... Mr. Goforth, the Gentleman from Perry, withdraws the Amendment."

"Amendment #16, offered by Representative Stephens and Pullen."

"The Gentleman from St. Clair withdraws the Amendment." 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

May 15, 1987 "Amendment $17, offered by Representative Wojcik."

"The Lady from Cook withdraws the Amendment."

"Amendment $18, offered by Representative Ryder."

"The Gentleman from Morgan withdraws the Amendment."

"Amendment $19, offered by Representative Stephens."

"The Gentleman from St. Clair withdraws the Amendment."

"Amendment $20, offered by Representative Capparelli and Barger."

"The Gentlemen from Cook and DuPage withdraw the Amendment."

"Amendment $21, offered by Representatives Parcells and Pullen."

"The Lady from Cook withdraws the Amendment."

"Amendment $22, offered by Representative Frederick."

"The Amendment is withdrawn."

"Amendment $23, offered by Representative White and Levin."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. White, on Amendment #23."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentleman of the House. On Amendment #23, I would like to waive the appropriate rule for printing and distributing that Amendment. It has been printed, but has not been distributed, and it has been filed. And while you are doing that, I could, if it's the will of the Chair, I could explain the Amendment?"

"Is there any objection? Alright, there is no objection. Use of the Attendance Roll Call to waive that rule. Mr. White, on the Amendment."

"Amendment #2 (sic-23), basically resolves some questions 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 that Representative Pullen had. Those questions are encompassed in Amendment #22 (sic-2231, and I move ... #23, and I move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. White, moves for the adoption of Amendment $23. And on that, is there any discussion? The Lady from Cook, Ms. Pullen."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to state for the record that while Amendment #23 is not drawn exactly the way I would have drawn it, I believe that the Gentleman has made substantial progress in improving this Bill, and I support his Amendment, and thank him for it."

"The question is, "Shall this Amendment be adopted? All in favor signify by saying 'aye, those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. On this Order of Business appears House Bill 1623, Mr. Curran. Out of the record. On this Order appears House Bill 1665. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1665, a Bill for an Act creating the Illinois Office of Citizens Ombudsman. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment 1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Amendments ... any Motions with respect to the Amendments? Mr. Giorgi, we'll take that out of the record for just a minute with your ... alright. We can proceed with it. Mr. Clerk, are there any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative McCracken." 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987

"The Gentleman from DuPage. Mr. McCracken, on Amendment #2."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. This Amendment would move the Office of Ombudsman, which Representative Giorgi seeks to create, from the Governor to the Lieutenant Governor. Technical changes are made to reflect the Lieutenant Governor as the proper authority. This is consistent with Lieutenant Governor Ryan's direction. He has been serving as an Ombudsman, among other things, on behalf of the people of the State of Illinois. We thought it appropriate to put it in his office."

"The Gentleman from DuPage moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 1665. And on that, the Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Giorgi."

"Mr. Speaker, my Amendment that follows this one does what I originally intended it to do, and I am glad that you have filed your Amendment, because it enlightened me as to what I wanted to do. You say that the... rather than the Governor appointing, the Lieutenant Governor become the Ombudsman, or appoints the Ombudsman, and I wanted my Ombudsman to be a Legislative Ombudsman. So my next Amendment takes the appointive powers away from the Lieutenant Governor, and allows the Speaker of the House and the President of the Senate to submit one nominee each to the Governor, who will appoint the Legislative Ombudsman. So I'll accept this Amendment because my Amendment clears this up in the next Amendment."

"The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted? Those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Giorgi." 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987

"The Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Giorgi, on Amendment #3."

"Yes, Sir, Mr. Speaker. My Amendment #3 does what I wanted it to do to begin with. This Ombudsman will be a Legislative Ombudsman, and I have no quarrel with Lieutenant Governor Ryan. I have sat with him in the House. He has been a very good Ombudsman. Simon before him. But this is ... this Act is to create a Legislative Ombudsman, and that's why I insist that we go with my Amendment #3."

"The Gentleman from Winnebago moves for the adoption of Amendment #3 to House Bill 1665. And on that, the Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A point of order. Amendment #3 is out of order. Amendment #2 affected a number of lines which purport to be amended in Amendment #3; thereby putting Amendment #3 out of order. In particular, on page 2, we delete in the second Amendment, lines 1 through 15; and Amendment #3 at line 4 thereof, seeks to amend, on page 2 in line 2, and then insert in lieu thereof the following. So, it's out of order due to the adoption of Amendment #2."

"The Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Giorgi has leave to take Amendment #3 out of the record. Amendment #3 out of the record for consideration at this time. So, Amendment #3 is taken out of consideration at this time. Mr. Giorgi, for what purpose do you seek recognition now?"

"Well, Mr. Speaker, inasmuch I would like this Bill in the fashion that I have designed it, I would like to have supported Amendment #2, but at this moment I would like to move to table Amendment #2, so I can have my Bill like I want it, Representative McCracken."

"The Gentleman moves to table Amendment #2 to House Bill 1665. And on that, is there any discussion?" 38  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken."

"A point of order, Mr. Speaker. I think that the Motion to table is not timely at this time. We were on the order of the third Amendment. He has withdrawn the third Amendment. He agreed to Amendment #2, the Motion is not in writing, and I would like a ruling on my point of order."

"I'm sorry, Mr. McCracken. Could you repeat ... I was listening to the Parliamentarian. Could you repeat your objection... concern with respect to this matter?"

"It's not timely. He were on Amendment #3. The Gentleman withdrew it when it was challenged on a point of order. Now he seeks to table Amendment #2. We are not on that Order of Business, and I would ... and the Motion is not in writing, and I object to it."

"Well, okay. We have adopted #2. We are on this Bill. We have not withdrawn the Bill from the record. We were on this at this time. Mr. Clerk, is there a Motion to table in writing? We have received a Motion to table the Amendment, so it would be in order. Yes, Mr. McCracken?"

"To the motion ..."

"Sure, proceed, Sir."

"I appreciate the Gentleman's agreeing to put on Amendment #2, and I think it does very little violence to the original Bill. The original Bill put this office within the Office of the Governor, and made the Governor the appointing power. Amendment #2 merely moved that to the Lieutenant Governor. Amendment #3, on the other hand, which was withdrawn, which would be, I am sure, offered if this tabling of Amendment #2 were successful, would allow the Ombudsman to be nominated by the Speaker of the House and the President of the Senate, leaving the Governor the choice of one of those two Democratic nominees. If he is 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 looking for a good government Bill, I suggest that we go with the original Bill, or we go with Amendment $2. Again. I appreciate the courtesy, but given the dramatic tic change that Amendment #3 would bring to the Bill, I must resist the Motion to table and ask for a Roll Call on it."

"And on the Motion, the Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich."

"Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. To the issue. I believe that the reason that Representative Giorgi has introduced a Bill for a Citizen Advocate is that many of us Legislators received complaints from people, from our constituents, that they have trouble working their way through the bureaucracy. The bureaucracy is the administration. I am not saying from a political standpoint, but the administration. So, I think it makes sense that we who receive the complaints, the Legislature, ought to be in the position of nominating or determining who the Citizen Advocate is going to be. So that, because we are trying to respond to complaints, because we are trying to unravel the bureaucracy. that we, the Legislature, ought to be the one to determine the Citizen Advocate to answer to our constituents. So, I think that Representative Giorgi's Amendment makes good sense to all of us. This is an issue, really, of the Legislature versus the bureaucracy, if you will, and I think we ought to stand up for ourselves. We are the ones that are answering the letters from constituents. Do you believe in yourself? Do you believe in the legislative process? Do you believe that we ought to make it easier for consumers? If you do, then you ought to ... you ought to be for the Bill, and for this Amendment #3, that is going to be offered later."

"Further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment number... Oh, I'm sorry. 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day Mr. Hoffman, yes?"

"Thank you, May 15, 1987 Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The issue of the Ombudsman and the role of the Legislature seems to me to be getting a little confused. The fact of the matter is, if we are the ones who receive the letters, then we are the ones who ought to be responding to them. The fact of the matter is that the executive level, the Ombudsman role, started long before the present Lieutenant Governor was in office as part of the role, and part of the function, and part of the responsibility, was taken on by the, then, Lieutenant Governor. I think it's appropriate that it remain there. I don't think that as a Legislature, that we should be putting ourselves in a position as attempting to appear as if we were not willing to accept our responsibility as an Ombudsman. For that reason, I am very hopeful that this effort to table Amendment #2 will be resisted and will remain on the bill."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be tabled?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open and ... Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 66 voting 'aye', 49 voting 'no'. And the Motion carries, and Amendment #2 is tabled. Are there further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Giorgi."

"The Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Giorgi, on Amendment #3."

"Mr. Speaker, I reiterate that... I thank Representative McCracken for reminding me and enlightening me that the Ombudsman should be a Citizens' Legislative Ombudsman; and thank you for that, for introducing that Amendment, so that 41  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 awakened me. And secondly, I would like to say is, that in response to Representative Hoffman, the Lieutenant Governor, who is a part of the administration; and the Governor, who will appoint the nominee after the President of the Senate; and the Speaker of the House gives them the nominees, this is exactly the point for the Legislative Ombudsman. Certainly, we send letters to the various bureaus. Certainly, we talk to the legislative liaisons with all the various bureaus, but we seem to reach an impasse at times that an Ombudsman can say, 'Look, you are acting irresponsibly. You are acting against the law. We don't have the facilities to go beyond that point, and that's why this Bill is so ... this Amendment and this Bill is so important, and I urge its adoption."

"The Gentleman from Winnebago moves for the adoption of Amendment #3 to House Bill 1665. And on that, the Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think over here we would be more amenable to the Gentleman's Amendment if he included the Minority Leader and the ... of the House and Senate. If it's supposed to represent the Legislature and be a Legislative Ombudsman, then why aren't we included? Is it for Democrats only? You know, let's get four nominees to go to the Governor, and let the Governor pick from four nominees, how's that? One each."

"There being no further discussion, the Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Giorgi, to close."

"McCracken, I have a technical Amendment that follows, and as long as you support the Bill, I'll have the four Leaders agree on a nominee that goes to the President. I agree with you. If you support the Bill, I'll put that in the Bill. I want your word on the record that you'll support the Bill." 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

"The nominee that ..." May 15, 1987

"The nominee that the four people agree on. The four leaders agree on."

"It will be four nominees and the Governor picks, right?"

"No, the one the four nominees agree on, then they present to the Governor, so that he can appoint. Only the Governor will have veto power. Now, put it in the record that you will support the Bill, and I'll accept that Amendment, the technical Amendment."

"Alright, why don't we take it out of the record for a minute, and maybe we can agree to it."

"Well, let's, let's accept the third Amendment first, and then we'll talk about further ..."

"No, I can't do that, we've got to talk about."

"Did we adopt Amendment #3?"

"I would appreciate it if, Mr. Giorgi, you would close, rather than barter with Mr. McCracken."

"I move to adopt Amendment #3."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed, 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the ayes have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. On this ... on this Order, on page 10 of the Calendar, we will return to House Bill 1310. Mr. Clerk ... Mr. Berrios? Mr. Clerk, 1310."

"House Bill 1310, a Bill for an Act to amend the Field Sanitation Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 Berrios."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Berrios, on Amendment #1."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #1 simply makes a technical change. It changes the word from 'such' to 'random'. I move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Berrios, moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 1310. And on that, the Lady from Cook, Ms. Didrickson."

"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield for a question, please?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative Berrios, this technical Amendment is a word change to 'random'. Can you explain that for me a little more fully?"

"Yes, the Department wanted to change 'such' to 'random', so that they could do those corrections when they are doing their regular corrections, so it wouldn't cost any more money in the future."

"Well, I guess what I am really wondering is, why are we going to a 'random' test versus a, you know, 'farm by farm' test. Aren't we being a little selective here? Isn't this an opportunity to single out some for judgement versus others?"

"No, the Department is the one that brought this up, and we agreed with them that they would just make this part of their regular inspection, so that they wouldn't have to make specific inspections later."

"So, you are endorsing selective enforcement?"

"No, they were just going to make this part of their regular enforcement. They were going to go out and check, if they were in a particular area, they were going to go and hit some of these other locations." 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987

"But, when you use the term 'random', you are saying that you are only going to do this on a selective basis."

"If that's what the Department wants, yes."

"Well, then aren't we giving legislative intent to a Department with overly broad delegation?"

"Well, I think if anybody out there is violating the law, the Department should act."

"So, you are going to ... they will also need legislative authority to do that. So you're willing ... you're comfortable with letting the Department go out there and randomly determine who it is that they are going to inspect."

"I trust the Department."

"You trust the Department to randomly select?"

"Yes."

"Every time we have language like this, we cede authority to the Executive Branch when you do that, and I just want you to be very aware of that."

"Okay."

"What is the cost of this?"

"With this Amendment, there is no cost."

"No cost. So we are not really willing to put some few dollars out there, which is what the original Bill was, in order to randomly select. Okay, to the Amendment. I have some very serious concerns about this random selective process, and this delegating what really ought to be our authority and our legislative intent. I think that perhaps the original Bill had some better language, but I will let it be up to the Members in this Body."

"The Lady from LaSalle, Ms. Breslin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, with regard to the last dialogue as to this Amendment, I support this Amendment. The purpose of the Amendment is to allow 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 the Department of Public Health to, on its own initiative, make some inspections. Under the original Act, we agreed that the Department of Public Health only had the responsibility to come in and make inspections in response to complaints. Since there has been a lot of compliance with the Act, but there is one-third noncompliance, we would like the Department to go back and make inspections for those areas where they know that there is noncompliance. The Department indicates that they can do this because they already have inspectors on hand. If they were required to inspect everybody it would cost between 50 and $250,000. I think it is ridiculous. I think that's not needed. I don't think that's what the migrant workers are requesting. The Department of Public Health has been very helpful in helping draft this Amendment, and the entire Bill, so that it meets the needs of the people of this State. I think it's a good Amendment, and I urge adoption."

"Alright, without ... there being no further discussion, the question is, "Shall Amendment #1 be adopted?' Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed "no". In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 1467. Mr. Clerk. Mr. White? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1467, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative White." 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. White, on Amendment #1."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 to House Bill 1467 is a clarifying Amendment. I move for its adoption."

"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. White, moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 1467. And on that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Hould you explain briefly the effect of the Amendment, please?"

"The Amendment will identify this one particular facility as being different from other facilities that deal with the handicapped."

"And what is the facility you are referring to?"

"The Hope School, here in Springfield."

"I'm sorry, I can't hear you."

"The Hope School, here in Springfield."

"The Hope School in Springfield?"

"Yes."

"And that deals with the visually impaired?"

"Yes, and multiple handicapped individuals."

"Okay, I have some notes here that say, 'provides certain procedures not be limited by historical, financial, and statistical data, and projected budget submitted by other facilities'. So, you are trying to make this a separate entity for purposes of internal procedures with the Department?"

"Yes. This is the only facility of its kind in the State of Illinois. So the Amendment seeks to identify it as such." 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

"Okay, thank you."

"Further discussion? There May 15, 1987 being none, the question is, Shall this Amendment be adopted? All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 1623. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1623, a Bill for an Act to amend the Alcoholism and Substance Abuse Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Ladies and Gentlemen, may I have your attention? It is now 11:30. At 12:30 ... within the next hour between now and 12:30, objections to the Consent Calendar should be filed. That's the Consent Calendar, which is Supplemental #1, the yellow Calendar. Thereafter, when they have all been filed, a new Calendar will be provided within about ... within some time, shortly, thereafter. And thereafter, it will contain those Bills that have been left on the Consent Calendar, and a vote will be taken. To repeat what I repeated earlier, you will then have two hours after that vote to vote 'no', 'present', or 'not voting'. By that time there will be long synopses on your desk as well to examine the Bills in some detail, but at this point, we have one ... within an hour, you are to file your objections to this Consent Calendar. Yes, Mr. Bowman, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Yesterday one of my Bills was knocked off of the Consent Calendar by the Republican 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day Leadership. May 15, 1987 And after further discussions, they have had a change of heart, and I now ask leave to return House Bill 976 to the Order of Consent Calendar, Third Reading. And as I understand it, there is no objection to this Motion."

"There has been a request by Mr. Bowman to restore House Bill 976 to the Consent Calendar on the Order of Consent Calendar, Third Reading. There is no objection using the Attendance Roll Call. The Bill will be SO restored to the Order of Third Reading, Consent Calendar. Mr. Piel, yes, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"While we are at a momentary lull, Mr. Speaker, I have got some good news and ..."

"I don't like to think that announcements on the Consent Calendar is a momentary lull, but proceed, Mr. Piel."

"Okay. thank you. If I could have the attention of the chamber. I have just received word that Representative Cowlishaw is out of the hospital, and she will be joining us back on the House floor next week. And also, Representative Tuerk had a very restful night, and he is progressing very. very well. He cannot receive phone calls, Ladies and Gentlemen, but I do have pieces of paper with his name and address and room number of the hospital here on my desk, and I'm sure that, you know if anybody wanted to send him a note, he would be more than appreciative. Thank you."

"Thank you, Ladies and Gentleman. Turning now to the Consent Calendar, Third Reading on Page 12 appears House 3ill 2625, which is to be returned to the Order of Second Reading. If you have not yet advised the Clerk of Bills to be returned to the Order of Second Reading, you should do so immediately. Now, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Panayotovich, moves that the House return House Bill 49  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 2625 to the Order of Second Reading for the purpose of Amendment. Leave is granted, and the Bill is on Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, are there Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Panayotovich."

"Yes. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Panayotovich, on Amendment #1."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 is basically from the Department to clarify its technical nature, and I move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Panayotovich, moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 2625. And on that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield? Representative, are commercial fisherman already licensed by the Department? So this is nothing but a change in definition?"

"Definition in terms from individual to person. Purpose of insurance and everything.... The Department is right here. We looked it all up."

"But they... but they currently are required to be licensed."

"Yes, Sir. Yes, Sir."

"Okay, fine. Thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' All in favor signify by voting... by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day Panayotovich." ... May 15, 1987

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker..."

"Excuse me, not yet ... moves that we waive Rule 37(b) so that this Bill may be heard on this Legislative Day. Leave is granted for the Attendance Roll Call. And now, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Panayotovich."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Members and friends. If you get a minute, for the next hour or so, up on the Democrat side, where the Pages sit, we have the ... a nice, big, going away party for an individual who will be leaving soon. So, if you get over, one of our Members is leaving, and we have a card we would like everybody to sign. It's on the left side by the Pages. So, please get it over and sign it, if you haven't signed it. Thank you."

"Returning, now to the Special Order of Business, House Bills Second Reading - Public Health on page 20 of the Calendar appears House Bill 1812. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1312, a Bill for an Act to amend the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Bowman."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman, on Amendment #2."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 was requested by the Christian Scientists, and stipulates that a person who uses a prayer 51  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 or other spiritual means of treatment, for that reason alone may not be determined to be mentally ill. I move its adoption."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 1812. And on that, the Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken."

"Just a question. What is it about the Bill that would make them think that they would be in jeopardy of being determined to be mentally ill?"

"Representative McCracken, it's a very good question. I discussed it with them quite a bit. My position was that there isn't anything to the Bill that puts them in jeopardy, but their position was that this Section, when read with, together with other Sections of the Mental Health Code, the existing Code, was a source of concern to them, so to allay that concern, I offer this Amendment."

"Does the definition in the Bill expand over previous definitions, or practice by the Department?"

"Not really. The language in the Bill, in the definition section, is taken almost word for word from an Illinois Supreme Court Case which I have in my file and would be happy to share with you. So, while it's an addition to our statutory law, it is consistent with, and in fact, as I say, almost word for word, identical with case law."

"And in what context was that case decided? Was it a criminal context or ... what was the issue?"

"No. I don't believe so. I believe it was a case involving involuntary admission, but in all honesty, the opinion was sixty some pages long, and I did not plow my way through the entire case."

"Okay, thank you."

"But I do have it, if you would like to see the entire case." 52  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987

"Okay, thank you. I'll take... I'll take the synopsis."

"The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 1955. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1955, a Bill for an Act in relationship to Rural Health Day. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Phelps."

"The Gentleman from Saline, Mr. Phelps, on Amendment #1."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. When the original Bill was drafted, we had the idea of rural health problems, and the lack of services in those areas. However, we did adopt this Amendment in trying to acknowledge the state-wide problems of health care shortages, so we ... this particular Amendment assures health resources development in shortage areas throughout the state, not just rural. It's both rural and urban, and it's much needed, and the Public Health Department would be administering it to designated shortage areas. It would assure that the Health Resources Development would look into the problems that we now have with areas that are under served by physicians, or under served with emergency medical treatment, and, also, that the resources be developed with the Department of Transportation helicopter for state-wide trauma victims as well as non-emergency 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 health problems. It's quite an extensive. The Amendment does become the Bill, and I will be glad to answer any questions."

"The Gentleman from Saline moves for the adoption of Amendment $1 to House Bill 1955. And on that, the Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken."

"Thank you, Hr. Speaker, will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"I see that the definition of designated shortage area is found in Section 3.04 of the Family Practice Residency Act. Is that a more expansive definition than your original definition of rural areas, or how would you ...?"

"It's more limited, actually."

"Okay, and that's already a defined term, so there is some accepted meaning to it?"

"Yes."

"Has there been any, say, geographic designation, or is there a guide by which the Department can tell where these areas are?"

"Well, shortage areas throughout the state include around 18 Southern Illinois counties, but besides that, we have the following counties would be affected, or at least pointed out to be having problems in this area: Cook, Will. Kankakee, JoDaviess, Winnebago, Mercer, Henderson, Warren, Putnam, Tazewell, Schuyler, Brown, Pike, Scott, Green, Jersey, Calhoun, St. Clair, DeWitt. Macon, Champaign, Mason, Clark, Hamel and Jasper."

"Okay, I get the message. And you say DuPage is on that list?"

"No, I don't think I said DuPage."

"Oh, I was thinking maybe we could get some state money out of this. No luck."

"The question is, Shall this Amendment be 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 adopted? Those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 2043. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2043, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Pullen."

"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Pullen."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill is a Bill to seek to protect the public from AIDS. This Bill was approved by the Speaker's Medical Advisory Panel and the Committee on Human Services, with a provision that I would adopt this Amendment which changes the means of testing in the situation of artificial insemination so that rather than testing semen, the donors would be tested, and current semen on store would be destroyed if the donor cannot be found to have his blood tested. It also, as I indicated I would do in Committee, requires the Department of Public Health to establish a registry of sperm banks operating in this state, because they ought to be protecting women from being artificially inseminated with sperm that contains the virus which causes AIDS. And yet, when I wrote the Director of Public Health a letter asking him what he was doing to assure that with respect to the new one that is opening near Peoria. He wrote me a letter asking whether I could perhaps provide him the name and address, because he doesn't know about it, and he doesn't know where any of the other sperm banks are 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day in Illinois, May 15, 1987 and it seems to me the Department of Public Health should be safeguarding people's public health in this manner and cannot do so if they don't know where they are. So, I move for the adoption of Amendment #1."

"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Pullen, moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 2033. And on that, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. White."

"Mr. Speaker, and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I stand in support of this Amendment."

"Further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 2044. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2044 ..."

"Alright, Ms. Pullen, the Amendments to this Bill have been filed but apparently not printed or distributed. Did you want to take this out of the record and come back to it?"

"With the assurance that we will come back to it in a timely manner, Mr. Speaker."

"We'll come back to it."

"Thank you."

"On this Order appears House Bill 2274. Mr. Ryder? Mr. Ryder? Out of the record. Mr. McCracken, do you have authority to take that or ... Alright, Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2274, a Bill for an Act to amend the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments." 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

May 15, 1987 "Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"There are none."

"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 2276. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2276, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Wyvetter Younge."

"The Lady from St. Clair, Ms. Younge."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Amendment #1 clarifies the fact that the subject matter of this Bill is only homeowners. I move for the adoption of the Amendment."

"The Lady from St. Clair moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 2276. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' All in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. Further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 2331. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2331, a Bill for an Act to amend the Department of Public Health and the Department of State Police. Second Reading of the Bill."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"There are no Committee Amendments, nor Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 2403. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2403, a dill for an Act to require the 57  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 installation of smoke detectors. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Cowlishaw and Daley."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Daley, on Amendment #1."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This Amendment which is being offered by Representative Cowlishaw and myself, simply adds enforcement provisions relative to the installation and maintenance of smoke detectors. The installation of smoke detectors in schools will be enforced by the State Board of Education; and the installation of smoke detectors in other facilities would be enforced by the appropriated state agency which licenses that facility. I respect and request a favorable vote on this Amendment, and would be happy to answer any questions."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Daley, moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 2403. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representative Daley."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Daley, on Amendment #2."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, this is simply a technical Amendment, and I would ask for its adoption."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Daley, moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 2403. There 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 being no discussion, the question is, Shall it be adopted? All in favor 'aye, opposed 'no". In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 2404. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2404, a Bill for an Act concerning the General and Occupational Health of Resident Aliens. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Regan."

"The Gentleman from Will, Mr. Regan, on Amendment #1."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Amendment #1 to House Bill 2404 simply amends some vague language which has brought on some lawsuits in regards to the Wage and Payment Collection Act where a vacation is stated in a contract with an employee, that he receives two weeks vacation after two years of employment, and he only works a year and a half, it has been interpreted that he should get the two weeks vacation even though he hasn't reached the two years of employment. So, I feel that this Amendment will clarify that, and I would wish for an appropriate 'yes' Roll Call."

"The Gentleman from Will, Mr. Regan, moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 2404. And on that, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I would ask the Parliamentarian to inspect this Amendment to see if it's germane to the Bill."

"The Chair has examined the Amendment. Amendment #1 is not germane to the Act (sic Bill). Are 59  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 there further Amendments? Mr. Hallock?"

"Yes, I would like the Chair to explain why the Amendment is not germane."

"I thought you would never ask, Mr. Hallock. This Bill deals with the Workers' Occupational Disease Act. The Regan Amendment changes it to Occupational Rights of Workers. Now, one would have to believe that it's an occupational right of a worker to get a disease in order for it to be germane. It is not germane. Mr. McCracken, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"As we have been so often told, there is two types of germaneness. Now this is horizontal germaneness, I think. Is that ... Is that right, Mr. Parliamentarian? Same chapter's amended. It may be vertical, but it's one or the other."

"Whatever position you like, Mr. McCracken. Are there further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representative Regan."

"The Gentleman from Will, Mr. Regan, on Amendment #2. Mr. Cullerton, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Mr. Speaker... Excuse me John, could I just correct one thing? Lately, I would prefer that the name be pronounced correctly. It's Regan."

"Regan. That's the former Chief of Staff, not the President."

"Two months ago, I was either way, preferably Regan. Today, let's go back to Regan."

"Regan. Alright. I'm sorry, Mr. Regan."

"Alright, John."

"I don't think either pronunciation is of much help. Now, Mr. Speaker, to save some time, as I understand it, 60  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 there are seven Amendments that have been offered. This is number two. To save some time, I, after looking at them, would question the germaneness of all of them. Perhaps we could have the Parliamentarian issue an opinion, and if... horizontal opinion on all of them."

"Mr. Cullerton ... Mr. McCracken, did you wish to respond to Mr. Cullerton's request?"

"It depends how you are going to rule. Were you about to rule for us? I won't say anything."

"I was about to ask if you wanted to respond."

"This amends the same Chapter, and if the Chair rules that this Amendment is out of order, you are telling us that an Amendment, to be in order would have to amend precisely the same Act. This Act parallels the Workers' Occupational Disease Act, or whatever it is called, and in effect, would overrule a long precedent of allowing Amendments to be declared germane, where the same chapter is amended. Clearly, this Amendment is germane."

"Yes, thank you for the observation. This Amendment is not germane. We are not held to the grouping that West Publishing Company makes when they prepare the Illinois Revised Statutes. And accordingly, the Amendment is ungermane. Mr. Hallock?"

"Well, Mr. Speaker, you know you have the votes in this chamber. This issue is clearly germane, it's on the same subject, the same chapter. Nothing could be more pertinent to the issue here. It's a Workers' Compensation Reform. We would hope you would vote on the merits. The issue is ... the Bill ... the Amendment is clearly germane if you want to rule it so, and you can do that, and then vote it on the merits alone."

"Mr. Hallock. Mr. Hallock, so that you will be satisfied, let me advise you that the Bill deals with 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 persons granted lawful temporary residence status under the Immigration Reform and Control Act. The Amendment, on the other hand, deals with issues under Horkermans Compensation Act. They do not deal with the same subject matter. They are, accordingly, not germane. Now, are there further ... Mr. Regan, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. It deals with the Disease Act, which is an employee benefit, and we are dealing with employee benefits, and certainly that's germane."

"Mr. Tate?"

"Yes, Mr. Speaker. He've... we've been cooperating on this side of the aisle. We have been working with you. We have gotten a great deal of work done in the last couple of days. There is no reason to arbitrarily decide right now, at 12:00 on Friday afternoon, that it is time to run over the rights of the Minority in this process. Just ... you have the votes. You have the Chair. Give us an opportunity to have our Amendments heard. This is obviously germane. Mr. Speaker. If you want to run roughshod over this process. If you want to make this process a charade, then let's just adjourn, go home, and get rid of the business."

"Further Amendments? Mr. Cullerton, I have a sense that the... I will examine the Amendments with leave of the Sponsor. Yes, Mr. Regan. Regan? Did you wish to withdraw those other Amendments?"

"I wish to withdraw Amendment #3."

"Alright, Amendment #3 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Regan."

"Mr. Regan, Amendment #4."

"Amendment #4 deals with the Workmen's Compensation Act, 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 and it is probably going to be screamed and yelled at, but I want to address the floor for one moment. This is an issue that is extremely important to the State of Illinois and these suggestions came from the Illinois Supreme Court Justice, Chief Justice, that they clarify language that costs the businessman and the employers in this area, problems in court. I think they are extremely important. That we have been chasing businesses out of this state left and right with the cost of Workmans Comp. and Unemployment Insurance, and I feel that if these are addressed it will help that problem."

"Mr. Cullerton?"

"You know, I want to renew my objection to the Bill, the Amendment's germaneness, and point out that the whole issue, all these issues, are being subject to the agreed Bill process. They are over in the Governor's Mansion working on these same issues, and here we are wasting time with the Amendments. There is a vehicle for the agreed Bill process. These Amendments for the subject matter of Bills that were killed in Committee and if anything's a charade, it's going through this ... giving these speeches, so that people can talk about how they are for reform in Workers' Comp."

"Gentleman from ... there being no further discussion ... Yes, Mr. Berrios?"

"Are you saying this one is germane?"

"Pardon?"

"This one we are going to vote on?"

"Yes, Mr. Cullerton has removed his objection."

"No, Mr. Speaker, I would hope that the Members of the General Assembly stand against this Amendment, because of the fact that this Bill, 2404, was put in as a vehicle for the Immigration Task Force, because of the fact that we 63  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 thought that there may be changes that were going to be needed in the future, so that we decided to put in a couple of vehicles. In Committee I told the Committee that this was a vehicle for the Immigration Task Force, and that's all that it would be. So if any Amendments get on it, I will have to table the Bill. Thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment fails ... the 'nays' have it, and the Amendment fails. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5, offered by Representative Regan."

"The Gentleman from Hill, Mr. Regan."

"Withdraw Amendment #5."

"Amendment #5 withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #6, being offered by Representative Regan."

"The Gentleman from Will, Mr. Regan."

"Is this Amendment #6?"

"Yes."

"This is in regards to the arbitrator and the commissions, and it simply removes ..."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton."

"I would question the germaneness of the Amendment."

"The Amendment is not germane. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #7, offered by Representative Regan."

"The Gentleman from Will, Mr. Regan."

"Withdraw #7, please."

"Withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments." 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987

"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 2410. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2410, a Bill for an Act to amend the Emergency Medical Services System Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Wennlund."

"The Gentleman from Will, Mr. Wennlund."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Floor Amendment #1 makes some technical changes to the Act, and primarily changes the length of time which we are required to track trauma patients, after the initial visit to the hospital. It has the concurrence of Chairman White, Representative White, and it makes some other minor changes and includes administrators and nurses on the trauma center committees. The basis for the Amendment, initially the language was objected to by the Medical Association. Now that the reported requirements have been cut back, the Medical Association are in favor of this Amendment."

"The Gentleman from Will, Mr. Wennlund, moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 2410. And on that, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. White."

"Mr. Speaker, and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, the Sponsor of the Amendment is correct. I stand in support of this Amendment."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Young."

"Mr. Speaker, are these Amendments printed and distributed?"

"I am advised by the Clerk that they are not printed and distributed. So, Mr. Wennlund, would you like to take this out of the record and we'll get back to it?"

"Yes, Mr. Speaker." 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987

"Alright, thank you, Sir. On this Order appears House Bill 2594. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2594, a Bill for an Act in relationship to Care and Custody of Hinors. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representative Holfe."

"The Gentleman from Madison, Mr. Wolfe, on Amendment #2."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Amendment #2 is strictly a technical Amendment, and I would move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman from Madison, Mr. Wolfe, moves for the adoption of Amendment #2. And on that, there being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. This Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. With leave of the House we'll now hear House Bill 2682 on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. 2682."

"On page 21 of your Calendar..."

"Mr. McCracken, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Well, 2682, okay, nothing."

"House Bill 2682, a Bill for an Act in relation to the Hemophilia Advisory Committee. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"

"There are no Motions in respect to Amendment #1." 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

"Are there any Floor Amendments?" May 15, 1987

"Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representatives Pullen and Stephens."

"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Pullen, on Amendment #2."

"I ask leave to withdraw Amendment #2."

"Amendment #2 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3 is being offered by Representatives Wojcik and Ryder."

"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Hojcik, on Amendment #3. Ms. Wojcik? Ryder? Wojcik, what is your pleasure?"

"I withdrew it. I guess."

"This Amendment is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, being offered by Representatives Stephens and Pullen."

"The Gentleman from St. Clair, Mr. Stephens, on #4. Withdraw. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5, being offered by Representatives Parcells and Doederlein."

"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Parcells?"

"Please withdraw the Amendment."

"Withdraw it. Proceed. Perhaps we ... Ms. Pullen are there, are some of them susceptible to a Motion to table and maybe we can ..."

"Floor Amendment #6..."

"Excuse me. You are not the Sponsor, so you can't withdraw them, but we might just want to table them. Ms. Pullen."

"Mr. Speaker, there is ..."

"Alright, there are only two more..."

"There is another Amendment that has been filed, that I 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 believe is not printed and distributed, so I would like to take it out of the record at this time, and we can handle the rest of it later.

"Alright, this is out of the record. On this Order appears House Bill 2791. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"On Page 20 of the Calendar, House Bill 2791, a Bill for an Act to amend the Radiation Protection Act, Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 2821. Ms. Hojcik, are you in the chamber? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2821, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Clinical Laboratory Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"There are none."

"Third Reading. On this same Order, on page 20 on the Order of House Bills Third Reading, there is House Bill 233. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 233, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Steczo, on House Bill 233."

Mr. Steczo: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 233 would permit local school boards to require that students have periodic vision examinations. When House Bill 233 was first introduced, it was a mandate that students should be required to have examinations, and there 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 was opposition to that concept. In the intervening period of time, working with the Department of Public Health, we amended House Bill 233 to provide the same language and same concept we presently do for dental examinations, where a school board could require dental and now, hopefully, vision examinations to take place, and the Department of Public Health would promulgate rules and regulations to govern those. With the adoption of the Amendment, House Bill 233 in its present form has been agreed to by the Department of Public Health, and all parties, and it really would help if the school boards would decide to do this to end a problem, or help correct a problem that we have seen time and time again. It's the feeling of everybody that House Bill 233, in its present form, enhances the present screening program that we have, and I would ask for the passage, Mr. Speaker, of House Bill 233."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Steczo, moves for the passage of House Bill 233. And on that, the Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative, can the Department of Public Health, by its rulemaking authority, require standardized vision testing? Or is that also permissive, that it cannot require, but it can suggest?"

"We leave this, Representative McCracken, entirely in the hands of the local school board. The Department of Public Health can provide the rules and regulations as to what would be a proper vision examination, but they cannot require that the students have the examination."

"That's fine. Thank you."

"The Gentleman from Livingston, Mr. Ewing."

"Will the Sponsor yield?" 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987

"He indicates he will yield for questions."

"Representative, is... the Farm Bill... got a position on this Bill?"

"I am not aware of one, Representative Ewing, although I will say that there were certain groups, the Society for the Prevention of Blindness and the Department of Public Health, that were against the Bill in its original form, because of the mandate. This, in its present form, is de-mandated, and all opposition has been withdrawn."

"Okay, so you did say that earlier, that this was not a mandate any longer?"

"That is correct."

"Okay. thank you."

"The question is, Shall this Bill pass?" All in favor, signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open, and this is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 110 voting 'aye', 2 voting 'no', none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the same Special Order appears House Bill... on Second Reading appears House 3ill 736, 736. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"On Page 19 of the Calendar, House Bill 736, a Bill for an Act creating the Illinois AIDS Registry. Second Reading of the Bill. It has been read a second time previously and Amendments #2 and £3 were adopted previously."

"Are there any Motions with respect to those Amendments?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4 was ruled out of order. The 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DESATE 47th Legislative Day next Amendment is Floor Amendment May 15, 1987 35, offered by Representatives Virginia Frederick and Goforth."

"The Lady from Lake. Ms. Frederick, on Amendment #5."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, thank you ..."

"Excuse me, Mr. Levin, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Mr. Speaker, my understanding is that this Amendment, up through Amendments 22, are going to be withdrawn?"

"I believe that was on another Bill. Is that not correct? He said it was withdrawn."

"Ms. Pullen."

"Mr. Speaker, on behalf of the Sponsors of those Amendments, if it's okay with the House, I'm sure it's okay with the Gentleman who is making the point. I will trust in his numbers, because not all the Amendments in this file are in order, but our agreement is that the Amendments that he mentioned will be withdrawn. In addition, the Chair should recognize Representative Stephens for a Motion with respect to his Amendment #3, which was adopted previously."

"Well, just as I'm sure there is nothing wrong, but what are the numbers of those Amendments that are being withdrawn? Maybe you can tell me, maybe we'll just move to table them quickly, if you give me the numbers."

"Amendments #5 through 22."

"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Pullen moves to table Amendments 5 through 22. are tabled. And now. Mr. Clair, on Amendment 73 on a Motion." Without objection, the Amendments Stephens, the Gentleman from St.

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

"Floor Amendment #3 is currently on the Bill."

"I would move to table Amendment 3, Mr. Speaker."

"Alright, the Gentleman from Was Amendment #3 adopted?" St. Clair, Mr. 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 Stephens. moves to table Amendment #3 to this House Bill. There being no discussion, all those in favor say 'aye", opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the Motion is adopted. Amendment #3 is tabled. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4 was ruled out of order. Next Amendment is Floor Amendment #5, offered by Representative Virginia Frederick and Goforth."

"That was withdrawn."

"The next Amendment is Floor Amendment #23, offered by Representative White and Levin."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Levin, on Amendment #23."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentleman of the House, Amendment #23 embodies the agreement with Representative Pullen. It is basically the same as the Bill as reported out of Committee, with two changes. One is, the blood trust is in there, and secondly, the AIDS Education in the Schools has been removed."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Levin, moves for the adoption of Amendment #5 ... #23, and on that, the Lady from Cook, Ms. Pullen."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The language with respect to the blood trust is not as I would prefer it, however, the Gentleman has done a substantially good job of improving this Bill, in my opinion, for what that's worth, and consequently, since I know that there will be blood trust language offered in other places as an alternative, I will support the Gentleman's Amendment."

"The question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted? Those in favor 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments." 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987

"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Third Reading, under Special Order of Business - Public Health appears House Bill 532. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"On page 19 of the Calendar ... on page 20 of the Calendar, House Bill 532, a 3ill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relationship to plats. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Peterson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 532 as amended requires municipalities and counties, prior to approving a plat, to receive approval by IDOT with respect to state highway access, the local highway authority, with respect to all other roadway access, and the local health department with respect to sewage disposal systems. The Bill was suggested by the... Lake County, and is supported by the County Superintendents of Highways, and the Urban Counties Council. I know of no opposition, and I ask for your support."

"The Gentleman from Lake moves the passage of House Bill 532. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open, and this is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 105 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On this Order appears House Bill 1242, Mr. Capparelli? Out of the record. On this Order appears House Bill 1811, Mr. Bowman? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1811, a Bill for an Act to facilitate the establishment of an integrated service system. Third 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day Reading of the Bill." May 15, 1987

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I introduced 1811 at the request of the Mental Health Association of Illinois. In its original form, it was a vehicle, and in Committee, we amended it with Amendment #1, which is the Bill now, providing for an experiment in capitation funding for mental health programs. This has been a lively topic of discussion in mental health circles for several years. It is high time that we have an experiment to determine how well such a system would function here in Illinois. This Amendment was drafted in consultation with the Department. The Department is not opposed to the legislation, and I believe, in fact, I know of no opposition, and I am pleased to propose this Bill to the House, and move for its passage."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman, moves for the passage of House Bill 1811, and on that the Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"This is a demonstration program?"

"Yes, Sir."

"What is its life, or length? Has that been specified in the Bill?"

"Just one moment, please. No, Representative, it is not specified. The Department is given discretionary powers in this regard. It does, however, require the Department to regularly report to the General Assembly and to the Advisory Committee concerning the progress of the demonstration projects."

"Is there a cost associated with this? Would one 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEЗАТЕ 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 expect a cost savings, or is this a reimbursement plan, or what are we getting involved in?"

"Well, a capitation program is one, sort of like an HMO, if you will, where there is a certain fixed amount of money per person within a geographic area, that is paid to the agency that will administer ... the local agency that wil1 administer the program, and then out of that pot of money, they get to determine who receives services, and how intensive the services shall be, and how they will cost, within that budget, so that the Department could fund this program at existing funding levels within the regions they choose to experiment in, or they could add additional monies if they see fit. It's a fairly broad grant of discretion to the Department, I acknowledge, but I think for an experiment that we want to give flexibility."

"Right now they provide service on a cost or per capita, prepaid basis, is that it?"

"No, they don't. That's what this would provide."

"Okay, how do they... how do they do it now?"

"Well, right now, they ... they have contracts with local mental health centers, on a ... to provide a certain amount of money for certain kinds of services, and really don't give the local jurisdictions very much discretion. In other words, what happens right now is, a lot of people just go unserved because the services are kind of first come, first served basis."

"They're first come, first served. You mean if they run out of money, and there are still people wanting services, they don't get served?"

"That is unfortunately what happens in many cases. And in particular, here is the problem, Representative. There is a class of service called preventive services, to try and reduce the rate of admissions to state hospitals, and 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 try to reduce the level of utilization of more intensive community based services, and its been a sort of an article of faith for many years, as we put a little more money into preventive services, then we could save money in the long run. Well, this is really an experiment to test that proposal."

"So, this is, this is an experiment in an attempt to save money."

"That is correct, yes."

"Okay. Will the experiment cost money, to save money?"

"Well, Representative McCracken, all I can say is, what we are doing with this Bill as amended, is to provide an authority to the Department, and the Department will come to us with this budget, and we would have the final say on how much it would cost."

"Okay, thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 104 voting 'aye', 8 voting 'no', none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On this Order appears House Bill 2800. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2800, a Bill for an Act to amend the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Morgan, Mr. Ryder. Mr. Ryder? Mr. Clerk, the Board indicates the previous Bill. The Gentleman from Morgan, Mr. Ryder."

"Good morning to you. House Bill 2800 amends the Mental 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 Health and Developmental Disabilities Code, provides that if written objection is made to the admission of a minor to a mental health facility, the minor shall be discharged at the earliest possible time, but not more than 15, not to exceed 15 days. It is now five. We have had problems with the discharge, and I would urge the passage of this Bill."

"The Gentleman from Morgan, Mr. Ryder, moves for the passage of House Bill 2800. And on that, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Young."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Could you explain what type of problems we have with the five day maximum?"

"Representative, some of our problem is that we are not able to... once we receive the notification, the discharge causes us a problem in that we don't have appropriate places for those youngsters to go. Additionally, we want to make for sure that if they are discharged, that they are under the proper kind of guidance and have the proper kind of opportunities to treat the problems that they have. The five days just doesn't allow us to get that done. Typically however, we are able to get them done in a fairly expeditious fashion, but sometimes the five days just isn't enough, and that's why they are saying 15. There is a mandate, I should indicate, to have the children discharged as soon as possible, so it doesn't mean that we are stringing this out. But, in some cases, the five is just not sufficient opportunity."

"Okay. In these situations, is it ever the parents who are filing the objections to their admission?"

"Oh, sure, absolutely."

"And when they are discharged, are they being discharged back into the care of their parents?" 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 35th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987

"Sometimes, most of the times, but not all of the time."

"Have you encountered a great deal of difficulty when they are discharged into the care of the parents, with the parents bringing them back for outpatient care?"

"We would hope that the parents would have the ability to bring them back for outpatient care. Sometimes the parents lack that ability, and the parents are caught betwixt and between. They want the children in their home. They want to care for the children. They want to do what's best for the children. And, one of the reasons that we are asking for the additional time, Representative, is to allow the Department to make the parents aware of what kind of community resources might be available to adequately treat the case, the child, in an appropriate fashion, and the five days just doesn't allow us to do that."

"Are there certain specific requirements that have to be met before the child can be kept for 15 days?"

"Hell, the court can disapprove the admissioning order only if three conditions are met. and the minor has ... does not have a mental illness, or he can't benefit from inpatient treatment, or a less restrictive, or appropriate treatment may be available. Which is to say, one can simply not go to the facility and say, "I want to discharge my child, when that child is acknowledged to have a mental illness or a developmental disability that cannot be adequately treated in another area."

"Who is is that makes the determination as to when the child would be discharged, ог if they be kept for the entire 15 days?"

"Ultimately, the courts would decide that. The intermediate decisions are made by the facility director."

"Who is it that makes the decision to admit?"

"Well, the child could be admitted in any number of ways. 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 Representative. It could be a voluntary admission, it could be a court ordered admission, it could be that the parents have requested the child to be admitted, it could be that other social agencies have indicated that the child is best treated by making such an admission."

"Thank you."

"You're welcome."

"Further discussion? The Lady from Cook, Ms. Currie."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Hembers of the House. Will the Gentleman yield for a question?"

"Certainly, absolutely, any time."

"What are the procedures for an adult, if there is a problem finding placement after X days, or Y days?"

"How do the procedures differ?"

"Yes."

"I am not aware of the procedures for an adult."

"I guess my concern about this Bill, Representative, is that you are extending from five days to 15, the period of time, during which the child can be held against his or her will, and it's not clear to me what procedures apply to the effort on the part of that individual to leave the facility. If you can't find, in five days, a suitable placement, what is there to make us think that in 15 days, you will do a better job. Is next year's legislation to extend from 15 to 30, and then from 30 to 90? I guess I have trouble understanding why we need this Bill, and I am concerned for the rights of the ..."

"Representative, if I were to come to you and be indicating today, it's 90 days, your objections would be very well founded, and I could understand your concerns. In most of the cases, these are voluntary admissions, in that the children have either, on their own, or through 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 other agencies, are there. When we say five days, we are concerned at this stage, because it sometimes is impossible, in a five day period, to make for sure that the child is going to receive the kinds of care that the child needs, and that the parent, or the custodians, or guardians, whomever they may be, have adequate resources to make it work. The child is in the facility for a reason in the first place, and if we care about the children, we want to see that those children are then treated in some fashion. In the second place, the reason that we are asking for an extension of 10 days, not 20, 40, 80, or 95 as you indicated, but for an additional 10 days, is simply to allow us the best opportunity to see that the children receive the kind of care that's necessary, and to see that they are released into an environment that is conducive to their best interest."

"Are these 10 calendar days, Representative, or 10 working days?"

"Calendar."

"Calendar days?"

"I'm sorry, working days."

"So it's 10 working days, so you are excluding Saturdays, Sundays, holidays. So it isn't just tripling the number of days, during which the youngster may be kept against his or her will, but your extending by a factor of six for that time period. I think that's what I find objectionable about the Bill, that you're not just ... you're not just even saying we'll double the time period, we can all understand that a suitable community placement may not de available, but this Bill, if I may speak to the Bill, Mr. Speaker, this Bill would extend that time period six times what the statutes currently provide, and it seems to me that that's not in the best interest of the civil rights of 80  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 the individuals who are the subjects of House Bill 2800, and I would urge us to defeat the Bill, with that kind of time extension in it today, unless the Sponsor is willing to suggest that his intention is not a sextupling of the time period during which a minor may be kept in this kind of facility, without opportunity to leave, but would be willing to consider reducing substantially, the time frame in this Bill as it is presented to us today."

"Further discussion, there being none, the Gentleman from ... I'm sorry, Mr. Olson, the Gentleman from Lake."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, will the Gentleman yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative Ryder, I would just like to pursue this in the interest of your best efforts. It would seem to have been eluded to the fact, that we are going around the judicial system with regard to admissions and discharges, in every case there is administrative relief for any of those people, who are being so treated, is that correct?"

"Absolutely correct."

"Drawing on the fact that I spent some time in the court system, and had a Mental Facility with hundreds of people. I don't think that your objective is out of the norm in any sense, and I would urge support of your Bill."

"Thank you very much."

"The Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Dunn. Representative Braun, in the Chair."

"Thank you, Mr. and Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I raise in opposition to this Bill. We have ... it's my understanding ... accommodated adults in this State, if there is a question about admissibility into a Mental Facility, by providing for a limitation of three days, is the maximum time during which they can be held 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 without a hearing. To go from 5 to 15 days, with regard to youngsters, is simply too much, it's a bad Bill, it should be defeated. I'm sure the Sponsor has good intentions, there is some indication, this might be a vehicle for something else, I don't know whether that's so or not, but I would strongly urge a 'no' vote on this Bill."

"Is there further discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Morgan, Representative Ryder to close."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I would like to have an opportunity to answer a couple of the concerns that have been raised. Please understand that this Bill deals with a child that has submitted themselves, or been submitted by a court, to a Mental Institution. The child is there either on their own volition, or because a court has indicated as such. When a parent makes a request that that child then be release, it currently indicates 5 working days now, we are saying 15 working days. That does not by a factor of six, it does more than triple, but it does not by a factor of six change the facts. Please understand that it is the maximum, the law now says, the law now says, at the earliest possible time. If that is two days, so be it. If that is five days it has to be done in the five days. We're simply indicating that it can be no more than 15 days. Although I can understand the concerns that are expressed, 15 working days. Although I can now understand the concerns that are being expressed, I should indicate that the concern here is for the best interest of the children. And that it is not automatic that if the parent makes that objection, that the parents are the best people to receive the child. I strongly urge for the interest of the children that acknowledge the problems that they have to allow this Bill 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day to be passed.

And I so urge. The May 15, 1987 Thank you." "The Gentleman... Gentleman has moved the passage of House Bill 2800. And on that, the question is, Shall House Bill 2800 pass? All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted? Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 91 voting 'aye', 18 voting 'no', and House Bill 2800, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2813, Representative Churchill. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2813, a Bill for an Act relating to emergency management. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Lake on House Bill 2813."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would ask leave to bring the Bill back to Second for purposes of adding an Amendment."

"The Gentleman requests leave to bring this Bill back to the Order of Second Reading. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. The Order... the Bill will return to the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Amendment #4, offered by Representative Pullen and Churchill."

"Amendment 4 by Representative Pullen, the Lady from Cook."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment 4 - first, I'll say this does not relate to AIDS. Amendment 4 puts the provisions of House Bill 2470 into this Bill. 2470 is on the Calendar, cleared Committee with no problems. The problem with it is that it is.. it, itself, is an Amendment to the current ESDA Act, and that... that Act is being 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 repealed by this Bill, and consequently, I'm seeking to put the same provision into the new ESDA Act. It is not controversial, to my knowledge. It simply requires the Emergency Service Disaster Agency to disseminate information without delay on water levels for rivers and streams and other data pertaining to potential flooding to the appropriate political subdivisions, so that communities that are in the path of a flood will have as much advance warning as possible. It is needed to improve the future over what happened last fall in many, many Illinois communities. ESDA is in agreement with it, and I believe that the Sponsor of the Bill is, too, since he's the Cosponsor of the Amendment, and I would appreciate the House adopting Amendment 44."

"The Lady moves adoption of Amendment 4. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment 4 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. The Gentleman requests leave to have this Bill heard immediately on the Order of Third Reading. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2813, a Bill for an Act relating to emergency management. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Lake."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 2813 is the rewrite of the Illinois Emergency Services and Disaster Agency. It's a comprehensive Bill which includes many numerous... many numerous minor changes but does also include some 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 substantive things. It does repeal the old Act. It brings the terms that are used in the Act up to more current standards. It changes the name of the agency from State Emergency Services and Disaster Agency to the Illinois Emergency Services and Disaster Agency, changes the Director's term of office to comply with the terms of the other Directors of the Governor's Cabinet. It requires the formation of political subdivisions to form emergency management advisory committees. It clarifies the power of the Governor in dealing with emergencies. It brings workers under the Workmen's Compensation Act. It provides for the testing of outdoor warning sirens at other times than the first Tuesday of each month, and there are many other changes, and it includes also an Amendment that Representative Phelps put on the Bill which provides for advance notice before any emergency training sirens are blasted. I would ask for success in passing the Bill."

"The Gentleman has moved the passage of House Bill 2813. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 2813 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and House Bill 2813, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 5 of the Calendar, House Bills Third Reading appears House Bill 2842, Representative Daniels. Is Representative... Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2842, a Bill for an Act in relation to certain undeveloped mentally disabled persons and their families. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from DuPage." 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 47th Legislative Day

"Madam Speaker, House Bill 2842 requires the Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities to create a family assistance support program to provide financial reimbursement to assist families in providing care at home for severely and profoundly developmentally disabled persons. This is part of a package of Bills, an effort to address the problem dealing with what is called 'aging out', where handicapped individuals reach the age of 22 and no longer qualify for certain state assistance, and I would seek your favorable support."

"The Gentleman has moved the passage of House Bill 2842. Parke: And on that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Parke." "Thank you, Madam Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I have met with families of children, or these young adults numerous times at centers like Kirk Center, that has to deal with this, and it is evident from talking to these families that these kind of programs are imperative trying to work with these children so that they can't phase out of government assistance onto some kind of a program that can provide for themselves. It's a traumatic experience to have these children, these young adults back into the family environment without preparing these families, and this kind of legislation is absolutely imperative to help them in this transition, and I ask everyone to support this legislation."

"Is there further discussion? Being none, the Chair recognizes the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Daniels."

"Appreciate your favorable support."

"The Gentleman has moved the passage of House Bill 2842. All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 wish? Have all voted? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'aye", none voting 'no', and House Bill 2842, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Rice. Record Representative Rice as voting 'aye'. House Bill 2843. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2843, a Bill for an Act to amend the Community Services Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from DuPage."

"This is a continuation of the program discussed earlier on aging out. This adds a Section to the Community Services Act requiring the Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities to establish a free standing case coordination pilot project in each of its administrative regions in this state, and I would seek your favorable support."

"The Gentleman has moved the passage of House Bill 2843. And on that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Morgan, Representative Ryder."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise in support of this very worthy project. It also was as a result of the House Republican Policy Committee which issued a report on the very important process that is largely ignored now, and that concerns the aging out of developmentally disabled children. We do a very good job up until age 22, and then they fall through the crack. This allows us to attempt to coordinate the services that can best suit the different children according to their individual needs, and as a result, to continue on the good work that started before age 22 and to give the best possible services thereafter, and I strongly urge support of this Bill." 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987

"The Gentleman... The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Daniels, to close."

"I seek your favorable support."

"The Gentleman has moved the passage of House Bill 2843. All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 115 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and House Bill 2843, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2844. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2844, a Bill for an Act codifying the powers and duties of the Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from DuPage."

"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Bill 2844 creates a separate line item in the Department of Mental Health Budget for the receipt of funding from the Department of Public Aid under the Medicaid waiver provisions of the Social Security Act, and I'd seek your favorable support."

"The Gentleman has moved the passage of House Bill 2844. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 2844 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. For what reason... Representative Hicks? For what reason does the Gentleman from Jefferson seek recognition? On this question, there are 114 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and House Bill 2844, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2845. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 88  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEЗАТЕ 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987

"House Bill 2845, a Bill for an Act to amend the

Community Services Act. Third Reading of the Bill. Speaker Braun: "The Gentleman from DuPage."

"House Bill 2844 Isic 2845) requires the Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities to coordinate and financially assist the provisions of the community respite services for the developmentally disabled, and I seek your favorable support."

"The Gentleman has moved the passage of House Bill 2845. And on that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Morgan, Representative Ryder."

"Thank you, Madam Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Again, I rise in support of this Bill, and of all the Bills, this one was probably the most heart rendering (sic), because this would supply time out for those parents who have selected to keep their children within their home. I don't think any of us, unless we have that situation, can understand how difficult it is to care for children who have physically developed but are unable mentally or because they're just DD' to care for themselves, and as a result in many cases, it's months, sometimes years before these folks can go out of the house for time on their own, either to take a break, just simply declare a time out. or for whatever reason to attempt to lead an otherwise normal life. The stories that we were aware of when we prepared the report on this particular subject would grab you and indicate that if there's one service that the state should be providing, this, indeed, is that service. I strongly urge passage of this Bill."

"Is there further discussion? The Chair recognizes the Lady from Sangamon, Representative Hasara."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I also rise in support of the 89  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 Bill. I think those of us who are fortunate to be... enough to be parents of, quote, 'normal', unquote, children certainly recognize that we need time out, and if recognizing that fact, I know that we all agree that those who are willing and somewhat able to keep these developmentally disabled children at home, definitely need time out. I urge your support of this important Bill. Thank you."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative Stephens."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. The... In the area of developmental disabilities, it's so important that we offer a broad spectrum of services, and this Bill will fill one of the voids that are existing in that, as Representative Hasara said, having respite care just to give these parents a break, just like you and I need a break away from our children once in a while. This is going to go a long way, not only to enhance the lives of these children, but to help solidify the very family. Divorce rates among parents of extreme... disabled persons is higher than the norm. I am aware of the autistic population that will benefit directly from Representative Daniel's Bill, and to the Sponsor, those families are very appreciative of your efforts and this is a step in the right direction and we work... we need to continue to work to make sure that all these voids are filled. Thank you."

"Is there further discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Preston."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I join the other speakers in rising in strong support for this extremely good Bill that is badly needed by families that have the added burden of having autistic 90  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 and otherwise emotionally handicapped children. This respite care is very necessary to give them the relief they need to allow them to continue on taking care of their children SO that their children need not be in any way institutionalized. This saves the state mоnеу, it saves the parents' anguish, and I would urge your 'aye vote."

"Is there further discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Kane, Representative Kirkland."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, and I rise in support also and just would add that as we bring some programs on line for the aging out problem, an area that we've neglected for much too long a time, the respite procesS is a very important part of that... all of those programs, and respite is used in various other care services and other areas of health care and certainly is important to fit into this process, too, SO I urge the adoption. Thank you."

"Is there further discussion? The Chair recognizes the Lady from Champaign, Representative Satterthwaite."

"Will the Sponsor yield for a question, please?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative, I realize the importance of respite care. It's my impression, however, that the Department can already provide for respite care, and what I'm trying to find out is what your Bill does that would give them additional authority or how their authority would be changed from what they currently do."

"Your question is that they can provide it. The answer is yes, but furthermore, what this does is, they mandate that they provide it and they don't have the funding formula for it which this Bill provides. That's why it 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day strengthens the provision."

"So, May 15, 1987 it would be an expansion of the service rather than a new service."

"Yes, in a sense, what you're saying is correct, but it would do... would expand the services but it would also provide more equitable care and provisions for that."

"Currently, if a child receives respite care, can the parents be assessed for a portion of the cost of that care?"

"It depends upon where the... where the funding would come from, the age of the child and the type of care needed."

"No, but, what I'm asking is, currently, if I had, say, a 10 year old handicapped child and there was a respite care program. would I be assessed a charge depending on family income for that respite care?"

"Yes."

"And your Bill takes that provision out?"

"No, it does not. What our Bill does is, it mandates care and provides additional funds for it. It does not necessarily remove that additional charge to parents. It expands it."

"I'm reading from the synopsis for Amendment #1. which seems to indicate that parents shall not be charged a fee for services for children under 18 years of age. And that's why I was trying to find out if that is different from current policy."

"I am told that the... this does not conflict with the free and appropriate education requirements under the law, and what this does is just clarify that and does not actually change the law in that respect. Parents would still be required to pay funds on a sliding scale, but preference... the Department would have to provide the 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 service, is what it says, and preference in funding for respite services would be given to eligible persons in the greatest need, as defined by the Department."

"I'm finding it difficult to hear, but you're saying that while the educational portion of the program would still be provided without cost, that there might still be the possibility of a fee being charged for the residential care?"

"This does not deal with residential care, it only deals with respite care."

"Well, but I'm talking about residential respite care. If the family is to have the child in a residential placement for a week, say, will the parent be subject to a sliding scale fee or not?"

"No."

"They will not be subject to any fee."

"No, under that circumstance, which you just cited."

"But currently, they would be."

"Representative, I'd better get the answer for you better defined. I think your questions are good questions, and we want to make sure it's clear on the record, so with permission of the Chair, can we remove this from the record, and I will, with your permission, come back to it."

"Thank you."

"This Bill will be taken out of the record. Page 3 of the Calendar, Special Order of Business - Government Administration, House Bills, Second Reading appears House Bill 80. Representative Cullerton? Representative Cullerton? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 80, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?" 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?" May 15, 1987

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative McCracken."

"The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative McCracken, on Amendment #2."

"Withdraw Amendment 2, please, Ma'am."

"The Amendment is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative McCracken."

"The Gentleman from DuPage on Amendment 3."

"Withdraw 3, please."

"Amendment 3 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by McCracken."

"The Gentleman from DuPage on Amendment 4."

"Madam Speaker, I move the adoption of Amendment #4. It would change from 10 to 20 the number of parking tickets before the certification notifying the Secretary of State of delinquency, thereby resulting in an automatic suspension of driving privileges would arise."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment 4. And on that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."

"Yes, I have an inquiry of the Chair and of the Parliamentarian, perhaps. Amendment #4 refers to House Bill 80 on page 1 line 3 by changing 10 to 20, and I believe that that is supposed to be on page... on line 13, and as a result, I would think that the Amendment, perhaps, might be out of order."

"Representative McCracken, what is your pleasure?"

"He's right."

"Yes. The Amendment is out of order. Further 94  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment Cullerton." May 15, 1987 5, offered by

Representative Speaker Braun: "The Gentleman from Cook on Amendment 5."

"Yes, thank you, Madam Speaker. This is a technical Amendment that does the following: revises the drivers' license suspension provision for clarification and specifies that a municipality which continues to enforce parking tickets through court proceedings may also cause drivers' licenses to be suspended. That's on page 1 lines 10, 11 and 18. There is a minor wording change by changing *vehicle' to 'vehicles'. It specifies that notice must be sent by first class mail. That's located on page 3 line 31, page 6 line 6 and 7, and page 8 line 13. It clarifies language relating to the traffic ticket being considered prima facie evidence. The amended language is substantially patterned after Illinois Revised Statutes, Chapter 120, Section 443, and that would be located on page 5 lines 21 and 24. Provides that a person with a parking ticket shall be provided an opportunity for a hearing rather than requiring an actual hearing if one is not requested. That's on page 5 lines 25 and 31, and it deletes language which attempted to state when the time for administrative review commenced. Deleting the language results in the procedural provisions of the administrative review law control filing for administrative review. It's located on page 9 lines 2 to 13."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment 5. On that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative McCracken."

"Thank you. I couldn't hear all of the explanation. Is the net effect of this to provide the opportunity of a hearing before the certificate is sent?" 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

"Okay, I'm trying to think which May 15, 1987 point I made that you're addressing. They're really just technical in nature for the most part. For example, with regard to the time. Does your question relate to the time when the administrative review commences?"

"No, it wouldn't be the review... "

"I can go over this... I can do this again, if you'd like. I'll go slower."

"Well, I didn't hear it very well, but the only point. I'm trying to make is, did you make a provision for an opportunity for hearing prior to the certification being sent to the Secretary of State? I thought I heard you say that. If I'm wrong, that's all I want to know."

"Yes, it provides, on page 5 lines 25 to 31. I believe that's what you're looking at."

"Okay. Does that provide for an opportunity for review prior to the certification being sent to the Secretary?"

"Give me one second to check it."

"Is there further discussion?"

"No, I'm answering a question. Thank you."

"Okay."

"Okay, as you can see on the Amendment on page 5, we delete lines 21 to 24 and we insert the new language. 'A parking violation notice issued, signed and served in accordance with this Section or a copy of such notice shall be prima facie correct and shall be prima facie evidence of the correctness of the facts shown therein. The notice or copy thereof shall be admissible in any subsequent administrative or legal proceeding.' On... oh, I see. That doesn't address your issue. It provides that a person with a parking ticket shall be provided an opportunity for a hearing, rather than requiring an actual hearing, so it 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 doesn't require an actual hearing, it provides them with an opportunity for one, if requested."

"Okay, and is that opportunity given prior to the time that the certificate is sent down to the Secretary of State?"

"Yes."

"Okay. How is that accomplished? Is notice given and then a time given for an opportunity to request the hearing, and if requested, is the hearing conducted prior to the certification?"

"Okay, I'm trying to attempt to take some time to answer that, if I could, Madam Speaker. Well, maybe I can go over the notice provisions. The second notice, it specifies details of the first ticket, the hang-on ticket, and the availability of a hearing to contest the violation. That's the first... That's the second notice after the ticket. The notice of violation must state certain information including failure to appear will result in the final determination of a parking violation liability. The notice of final determination of parking violation liability must be sent to the registered owner, and that notice states that they may petition to have set aside... he may petition to have set aside the final determination. The owner of the vehicle must be instructed that failure to pay may result in the municipality commencing the proceedings in Circuit Court to obtain a money judgment. The notice of the impending suspension of the driving privileges must be sent by mail indicating failure to reconcile fines within 20 days of the notice date."

"Alright, I guess my question is... "

"So, in other words, if the person never shows up, ever... "

"He doesn't get a hearing." 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

"He doesn't get a hearing, right." May 15, 1987

"Right. But my question is, where the person seeks to respond within that 20 days, does he, in fact, have an opportunity for an adjudicatory hearing prior to the certificate going down to the Secretary."

"That is clearly my intent with the Bill, and if... I can assure you if that is not clear in the law, I would be happy to make it clear."

"I don't think it is in the Bill." Cullerton:

"Could you direct me to what page of the Bill... 7 "Page 2 line 27 Section (e). You allow the municipality to provide, by ordinance, procedures for a challenge to the accuracy of the certified report. However, there is no statement in there that that will be available to the defendant prior to the certification being sent to the Secretary."

"Well, are you talking about a situation where there was never any hearing, where the individual never asked for a hearing?"

"No, no. I think... The point I'm trying to make is, is that if that person responds within your 20 day time limit, does that stop the clock? Does that stop the certification? Does he have pre-certification hearing rights?"

"Okay. Okay. I think it should, and if you want me to take this Bill out of the record for now, we can talk to... talk about that issue and see if it is covered in another Section. If you don't feel it is, we can prepare an Amendment to do so, so I would be happy to take it out of the record at this time. Madam Speaker?"

"Out of the record. House Bill 80, out of the record. House Bill 308, Representative McPike. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Out of the record. House Bill 320, 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 Representative Satterthwaite. Out of the record. House Bill 497, Representative Keane. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 497, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to create the State Department of Procurement Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 were adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #6, offered by Representative Myron Olson."

"For what reason does the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Keane, rise?"

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would ask for leave to table Amendment #4 to House Bill 497."

"The Gentleman asks leave to table Amendment #4. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment 4 be tabled?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. Amendment 4 is tabled. Further Amendments? Mr. Keane."

"Floor Amendment #6, Myron Olson."

"Representative Keane, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you. Madam Speaker. I would ask leave to table Amendment #5 to House Bill 497."

"The Gentleman asks leave to table Amendment 5. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. Amendment 5 is tabled. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #6, Myron Olson."

"The Gentleman from Lee, Representative Olson, on Amendment 6."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day House. May 15, 1987 This is an Agreed Amendment. It includes the City of Chicago under the new State Government Procurement Code. The City would then have to comply with the Code. I move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman moves the adoption of Amendment $6. Keane: And on that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Keane." "Thank you, the Amendment." "Yes." Madam Speaker. A question of the Sponsor of Olson:

"Did you say that this was an Agreed Amendment?"

"No. No, I didn't say it was an Agreed Amendment. I said it is an Amendment. This is designed to deal with the communities who would be most likely to have a consideration, and we think they would be the major metropolitan markets."

"Your Amendment... at least you have the decency to laugh, but I would resist the Amendment. the procurement... the State Procurement Code of the City of Chicago, and I would ask that the Amendment be withdrawn or be defeated." The Amendment would have

Procurement Code be the Speaker Braun: "The Gentleman... Representative Olson to close."

"Thank you very much. Despite the fact this is being... "

"Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Is there further discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative McCracken."

"Thank you. Question of the Sponsor. Representative Olson, why do you wish to include the City of Chicago in this Bill?"

"Well, I... Representative McCracken, I think they should be included because they represent the source of the major metropolitan area in the state, and I think they should be a participant." 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

May 15, 1987 "Are they covered under state law in a separate code, or are they given separate treatment under state law in any way for purposes of a procurement code?"

"Is there further discussion?"

"Yes. I'm asking him a question."

"Thank "Okay." you, Representative McCracken. The original intention was to include municipalities under the Code, and therefore, we think they should be included."

"To the Amendment. I rise in support of the Amendment. I don't see any reason why the City of Chicago should not be included in this. It's the State Government Procurement Code which seeks to set forth requirements for procurement and repeals anything that is inconsistent therewith. I don't see why the City of Chicago should not Speaker be included."

"Is there further discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Young."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Thank you. Representative, do you know whether or not the City of Chicago has its own procurement code?"

"I'm not familiar with that."

"Well, they do have their own code, so that means you have no idea how this would compare... "

"Would you repeat? I'm getting some correspondence from two directions."

"No, I was saying for your information that they do have a procurement code, so I was wondering if you had any idea how this proposed State Procurement Code would compare to their procurement code."

"Not specifically, except that we are hearing about the incubator situation in Chicago in recent newscasts, and as 101  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 a consequence, we thought that this might be a reasonable Amendment."

"Well, to the Amendment, and I move for the defeat of this Amendment, and I would suggest that any reference to Operation Incubator, it was a clear violation of the city's procurement code, and so whether the city was operating out of the code it has currently or under this proposed code, it would still be a violation of the law, and we in Springfield cannot stop people from violating the law. This is the State Procurement Code. To put this Amendment on the Bill is clearly just an attempt to kill the Bill, because it would preempt the city's home rule authority and create the need for 71 votes to pass this Bill. The Sponsor doesn't want this Amendment, and I move for its defeat."

"Is there further discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Lake, Representative Churchill."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Yes, thank you."

"Representative Olson, is this Bill the product of some Committee's work?"

"The Subcommittee for Legislative Audit Commission suggested this legislation."

"And have they been working on a State Procurement Code for several years?"

"Three years."

"For three years. And so, in the... in that process, have they examined the proper ways for government to procure items?"

"Yes. Yes, they have, Representative."

"I see. And as a part of the Procurement Code, does 102  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 Olson: this cover like the purchase of government services?" "Correct. That is the essence of it."

"And also the purchase of products that are used in the government?"

"Absolutely. We need to deliver the best possible service we can for the least cost, every place in the State of Illinois."

"I see. So, would you say that the original Bill that we're dealing with here is probably a model procurement code, after all that work?"

"I think this Bill is a model and will be enhanced significantly by the adoption of Amendment #6."

"So, in other words, if this is a real model, then really, all the local governmental bodies ought to follow this model, don't you think?"

"I'm sure I'll hear very soon from other municipalities recommending the adoption."

"Well, I think this is a fine Amendment, and I think that if we're going to work for three years to come up with a procurement code that is good enough for this state, that we feel is a model for this state and for the nation, then I think the City of Chicago ought to follow that. That's a fine idea. I think we ought to vote "yes" on this Amendment."

"I'm surprise, Representative, that there's any objection whatsoever to adopting what would be very good across the State of Illinois."

"Thank you."

"Is there further discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative Stephens. Representative Stephens, your light is on. Would you turn his light off, please? Thank you. The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Adams, Representative 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day Mays." May 15, 1987

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. I will be brief. As a Member of the Legislative Audit Commission and particularly the Subcommittee that's been working on this procurement code for the last two and a half years, I believe that the Bill is the best that we can do at this point, I believe this Amendment would slow down the process. Maybe it makes sense to have something like this on here, but I believe the discussions that we've undertaken over the last few years and the compromises that we've had to make to bring it to this point have been very, very constructive, and I believe that at this time, I would oppose the Amendment with Representative Keane, and that's about it."

"Is there further discussion? The Gentleman from McDonough, Representative Slater."

"Madam Speaker, I would ask for a Roll Call."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Lee, Representative Olson, to close."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The issue has been discussed at quite a bit of length. I think that the Amendment is offered in good conscience, good grace, and that the largest market in the State of Illinois should look at this in a favorable mood and move for the adoption of Amendment #6 to House Bill 497."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment 6 to House Bill 497. All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 61 voting 'aye', 49 voting 'no', and Amendment #6 is adopted. Further Amendments?" 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

Keane." May 15, 1987 "Floor Amendment #7, offered by Representative

"The Gentleman from Cook, on Amendment 7."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #7 is a cleanup. It puts in the provisions that we would... it cleans up the provisions of Amendment #4, which I've withdrawn. It takes care of the social service clarification of purchase of care, and it adds a technical Amendment in the third part. I would move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman moves the adoption of Amendment #6... 7. Amendment 7. On that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Lake, Representative Churchill."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Does this Amendment delete everything before it?"

"No."

"No. So, the previous Amendment that just went on will still stay on the Bill with the inclusion of this Amendment."

"That's my understanding."

"Okay, thank you."

"Is there further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment 7 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and Amendment 7 is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. We're going to go back to the Order of Third Reading in order to pick up Representative Daniels' Bill, House Bill 2845. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2845, a Bill for an Act to amend the 105  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 Community Services Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Daniels."

"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Bill 2845, as stated earlier, requires the Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities to coordinate and financially assist the provision of community respite services for the developmentally disabled. The confusion that was brought up earlier dealt with some federal law and make certain that we did not confuse that law. So, I can tell you that, at the present time, the Bill that is before you does not change state law in any respect and I would ask your favorable consideration for the same."

"The Gentleman has moved the passage of House Bill 2845. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 2845 pass?" All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote "no". The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 115 voting 'aye", none voting "no", and House Bill 2845, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 19 of the Calendar on the Order of Third (sic-Second) Reading appears House Bill 627. 627. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 627, a Bill for an Act to amend the Toxic Substances Disclosure to Employees Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative 106  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day Farley and McPike."

McPike: House, May 15, 1987 "Representative McPike on Amendment 2." "Thank you, Madam Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the Amendment #2 will limit the Bill so that if it's adopted, the Bill will only speak to paint tinting operations and remove those from the Toxic Substance Disclosure Bill we passed a few years ago. It speaks to operations like Sears or any other local paint store that does nothing but tint... it's a tinting process, a mixing process. It removes that from the Toxic Disclosure Bill. I move for the adoption of the Amendment." 2.

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment 2 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. On page 4 of the Calendar, Special Order of Business - Government Administration, House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 678. Representative Currie. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 678, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning comparable worth. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Rather, Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Didrickson."

"The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook, 107  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 Representative Didrickson."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. Amendment #2 does deal with comparable worth, and what it does is, it sets in a standard which really doesn't exist with regards to comparable worth, and it says that if we are going to have wage and sex discrimination, defined as comparable worth, that we're going to put in the standard and say that it has to be purposeful wage and sex discrimination. We all know down here on this floor in the House, because comparable worth has been an issue that we've had for a number of years at least four that when we institute comparable worth, that the critics always say, 'Well, we've always got Federal Law, we've got Title VII under the Civil Rights Act.' Well, you can't... it's equal pay for equal work, and you can't discriminate based on sex or racial background. What this does is, with comparable worth, is set in the standard. It makes comparable worth something that you can actually institute with this standard by saying 'purposeful'."

"The Lady has moved the adoption of Amendment 2. And on that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook, Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. I rise in opposition to Amendment 2 to House Bill 678. Certainly, the language is not offensive. It's really the present language of the law of the State of Illinois. Purposeful discrimination based on sex and race is already illegal in State Government employ. The effect of Amendment 2 to House Bill 678 is to restate the obvious, but in so doing, to gut the provisions of the Bill. I urge defeat of Amendment 2 to House Bill 678."

"Is there further discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from McLean, Representative Ropp." 108  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. If there is a Bill that really needs standards and clarity in it, it's this Bill. This Amendment certainly will do that in providing standards for uniformity and continuity throughout the whole process, and I certainly think we ought to support this Amendment."

"Is there further discussion? The Gentleman from Fulton, Representative Homer."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise to oppose the Amendment. What is seems to do is to suggest that before the board could implement rates based upon pay equity, there would have to be a showing that there was purposeful race or sex discrimination. In other words, a condition precedent to the imposition of pay equity plan would be to show that somewhere out there there's some villain who has purposefully, intentionally and willfully entered into a conspiratol act to create sex discrimination in pay. I think that would be an impossible burden to meet. What difference does it make to the recipients whether the perpetrator has done so purposefully, inadvertently or unknowingly. The question really is one of whether any pay inequity exists. If it does, then the Sponsor's Bill would address that situation. The requirement that there be a showing of purposeful discrimination, I think, is an impossible burden, and would, in fact, strip the Bill of any meaning, and I think we should all rise to oppose Amendment #2."

M: "The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook, Representative Didrickson, to close."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to address the comments that have been raised here with regards to the Sponsor to begin with, with point #1. What she was talking about with regards to purposeful discrimination in 109  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 Illinois, yes, it does exist, but that's for equal work for equal pay. Comparable worth is not that. That's why we need this Amendment, and that's why we need this standard. Another Representative on the other side of the aisle brought up point #2 with regards to purposeful discrimination in putting in this standard. Well, we proved purposeful discrimination in a number of Acts in the State of Illinois. Why not this, with comparable worth? I think they're very valid arguments that they have raised that we already do in other statutes in the State of Illinois. That's exactly why, with this new Act, we need to do this for comparable worth. I would just like to reiterate the reason for this. Representative Currie, who is the Sponsor of this Bill, let's just say that she's an attorney and I'm an attorney. Right now, if she's paid 40,000 and I'm paid 28,000, we would have a case for discrimination. But if we go out there with comparable worth and she's an accountant and I'm an attorney and I'm making 40,000 and she's making 28, and someone comes in and says, "We ought to have comparable worth," I think we ought to have a standard to decide that comparable worth with regards to purposeful discrimination, and that's exactly what this Amendment does. I think before we go out and direct the department in the State of Illinois for state employees to institute comparable worth, we've got to have a standard. I don't think any of us want to expend 128 million dollars or up to, before we really know what it is we're doing. This is a good Amendment. I ask for a Roll Call vote on this."

"The Lady has moved the adoption of Amendment #2. All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. The voting is... Have... Representative Currie to explain her vote. No. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the 110  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 record. On this question, there are 48 voting 'aye', 58 voting 'no', and the Amendment fails. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Parcells."

"The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook, Representative Parcells, on Amendment 3."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this Amendment allows that there should be adjustments for the purposes of attaining comparable worth, which may be affected through increases or reduction in ranges and rates or both increases and reductions in ranges and rates. We're talking about a budget buster policy, here, an Act that would cost... some people think as much as 128 million dollars per year every year, and of course, more after that, as raises go, and therefore, if we really think that what has been called woman's work is worth a lot more. Perhaps, what has been known as men's work is not worth as much, and in order to keep the budget in order, I think the adjustment should be able to go down as well as up so that we have an even line amount of money being spent and we'll adjust the wages accordingly. And I move for the adoption of this Amendment."

"The Lady has moved the adoption of Amendment 3. And on that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Fulton, Representative Homer."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise to oppose the Lady's Amendment for a number of reasons. First of all, the language of the existing Bill talks about adjustments. It doesn't say that there shall be increases in order to implement pay equity. It uses the word 'adjustments'. Adjustments inherently, by definition, would mean increase or decrease, which is what the Lady's Amendment suggests that it say. However, I think there are further reasons to 111  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 oppose the Amendment, and that is to say that the Sponsor of this Bill attempts to address a matter basically affecting civil rights, the interest in trying to protect the rights of all parties, and when there is discrimination found, I wouldn't think that we would want to address it by suggesting that those who have not been discriminated against ought to be discriminated against in order to bring equity to the situation. We want to remove the discrimination from those who have been discriminated against, and not to discriminate against the ones who haven't. And I think the Lady's Amendment would do otherwise. So, the final point that I would make is that, as I read the Bill, the pay equity schedule is to be fully implemented by June 30, 1997, which is 10 years from now. Hopefully, the implementation of pay equity, if the Bill passes, that can be done in the next 10 years without a need to decrease the wages or salary or compensation of any existing employee, given that 10 year time period to fully implement the plan. So, for all of those reasons, I rise to oppose the Amendment and ask for your support."

"Is there further discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Bowman."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in opposition to this Amendment. It is *Reaganesque*, it is grotesque, it proposes to take bread off the table of the working men and women of this state, and therefore, I stand in opposition to it."

"Is there further discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays. Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a simple concept that they're trying to implement by law that somebody is either worth less than 112  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 what the job he's doing would profess to be, or somebody is worth more. The simple equity of this Amendment, if we're going to be discussing pay equity, is that when you're looking at the overall scheme of things, you can look both directions and determine whether a person is being overcompensated for his value and contribution to the work force or not. For that reason, I rise in strong support of the Amendment. If you're going to have it one way, you've got to have it the other."

"Is there further discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative Stephens."

"Well, thank you, Madam Speaker. If 'Reaganesque' means what I think it means, then I rise in support of the Amendment."

"Is there further discussion? The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook, Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. I, too, rise in opposition to Amendment 3 to House Bill 678. It's a basic settled principle of civil rights law in this country and in this state that when an individual is the victim of discrimination, the appropriate remedy is to make that victim whole. This Amendment would turn, establish procedures and establish law, upside down, turn it on its head, and for that reason, that Amendment is not appropriate to this Bill."

"Is there further... The Lady from Cook, Representative Parcells, to close."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I was glad to hear the first speaker say that he thought that the Bill already implied that we could go down. I think that's what he said, because he said it doesn't deal with raising wages or lowering wages, so I'll be very happy, if the Amendment 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 should be defeated, that we are assuming this is already in the Bill. And as to victims, because the first... or the second Amendment, which we just voted on, was not accepted, we don't really know if there is any victims out there or not. I think this is a good Amendment. It's a way to have this happen in this state, if the Sponsor of the Bill is really sure that she wants comparable worth measured in this way in this state, this would be a way to implement it. I encourage your 'aye' vote, and I'd ask for a Roll Call."

"The Lady has moved the passage of Amendment 3. All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 46 voting 'aye', 66 voting 'no', and the Amendment fails. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Didrickson."

"The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook. Amendment 4 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5, offered by Representative Didrickson."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Sutker, on Amendment 5. Alright, Representative Didrickson."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, for the opportunity to present Amendment #5. And frequently, when we get into such emotional debates on topics such as comparable worth, we tend to close off and tune out with a series of Amendments. I would just like to say to the other side, who seems very determined to pass comparable worth, that what we are doing here with Amendment #5 is removing discrimination. What we are doing here is telling that... 114  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 that CMS, the department of State Government, that where there are job classifications that are male dominated, 85 percent male dominated, that we want them to put together a plan with each one of the departments, how they are going to infiltrate women into those male dominated categories. I don't think there's any reason, no reason whatsoever, when you read the Status of Women's Commission Report with regards to comparable worth and why we are having to institute comparable worth, why an Accountant V or a Financial Examiner IV ought to be 85 percent or 90 percent male dominated. What we are asking here is for equity. We're asking for, you know, comparable consideration with those male dominated categories as far as females, and we're asking that at least they put in a plan that, by 1992, that they have 35 percent women in those male dominated categories. I think it's a good Amendment. I don't believe in women's work, and if you share my concerns in either male dominated job categories or female job categories in that we ought to do something about this discrimination, you'll vote for Amendment 5. I ask for your 'aye' vote on this."

"The Lady has moved the adoption of Amendment 5. And on that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Lake, Representative Matijevich."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I guess it was around 10 years ago when I sponsored the Equal Rights Amendment and we came pretty close. It was about 10 years ago, too, that I was the Chairman of the Appropriations Committee. I say both of those because the arguments when we lost the Equal Rights Amendment by a very narrow loss, the argument of the opponents was, if there need be equity in pay, we're all for it. The argument of the opponents was, if there need be equity as... between 115  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 men and women, then we don't think there should be a Constitutional Amendment. We think it ought to be done by statute. And I mentioned the fact that I was on the Appropriations Committee and Chairman because we did have the... the Directors then and we have the Directors now, before our Committee, to speak to the issue of affirmative action. Very often, their answer is, and maybe I shouldn't say it in this way, but their answer is 'uh-huh". In other words, they say they've got a plan, but they don't have a plan. If they did, 10 years ago and today, we'd have had much more progress. I don't think we ought to call all of these Amendments anything else but crippling Amendments to what is going to be an attempt to reach equity in State Government. I applaud the Sponsor for this, and I think that anybody who... anyone who is sponsoring or votes for Amendments to cripple this Bill, you ought to realize, and the public ought to realize what you're doing. You are trying to thwart an honest effort toward pay equity."

"Is there further discussion? The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook, Representative Parcells."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I think this is an excellent Amendment, and I rise in support of it. Perhaps it isn't because the job is female dominated, because perhaps it is the job itself, that in the free market, doesn't rate a higher rate of pay. Therefore, with this Amendment, women will be encouraged and helped to move into the jobs that do gain a lot of pay equity. This is the best time in history we've ever had for women to move into all fields - law, medicine, engineering - they can go anywhere. Women must move out of, perhaps, the jobs that pay less. It isn't because they're women dominated, it's because the job itself is what it is... demanding that price in the fair market. I think this is a very fine 116  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 Amendment and will help the Bill. It will not criticize the Bill. I also move for its acceptance."

"Is there further discussion? The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook, Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Madam Chair and Members of the House. The contents of Amendment #5 would have made a terrific Bill for the Sponsor of this Amendment to introduce before the deadline for Bill introductions. I am afraid that I would have to agree with the remarks of Representative Matijevich. This is an attempt to kill the Bill rather than to improve its chances for passage. Let me remind the Members of this House that every state agency is required, under present law, to file plans, prepare plans and file plans to increase the number of women and minorities in State Government employ. We, in the Appropriations Committees, know that those plans are not worth the paper they're written on, and I am fearful that Amendment #5 to House Bill 678 would suffer the same fate as existing statutory requirements. I oppose this Amendment."

"Is there further discussion? The Chair recognizes Representative Didrickson to close."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. The Sponsor of House Bill 678, in her own admission, has said this would be a terrific Bill. This Amendment would be a terrific Bill. It is a very good idea, and without it, comparable worth in getting women into those male dominated job categories will be discouraged. This Amendment is needed to make comparable worth a very... a better Bill, a better Bill. I don't believe in women's work. I know the Sponsor of comparable worth doesn't believe in women's work, and I happen to think that, you know, had I been down here 10 years ago, in response to another Legislator on the other side of the aisle, I would have been for the Equal Rights 117  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 Amendment. I happen to support all of those same philosophies, and for that very reason. I have offered this Amendment, not as dilatory, not to kill the Bill, not to gut the Bill, but to make comparable worth something that we can really institute in a fair, level, evenhanded way and not to discriminate, to discourage discrimination. I'm not about to buy off women with comparable worth and keep them in those low paying women's jobs. I like to think that women can move, and there's fluidity within our job classifications in the State of Illinois. I urge the adoption of this Amendment, and I ask for your support and a Roll Call vote. Thank you."

"The Lady moves the adoption of Amendment 5. All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? On this question, there are 47... 49 voting 'aye', 66 voting 'no', and the Amendment fails. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #6, offered by Representative Deuchler."

"The Chair recognizes the Lady from... Representative Deuchler, the Lady from Kane."

"Madam Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment 6 delays the implementation date for comparable worth and states the year to be the year 2007. It gives another option to implement the legislation. We know that the cost would be 128 million next year. What will it be in 10 years or 20 years?"

"Is there any discussion? The Lady has moved the adoption of Amendment #6. And on that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Fulton, Representative Homer."

"Madam Speaker, I think it's clear that the Sponsors of these Amendments, contrary to assertions otherwise, are 118  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 putting these Amendments on in order to dilute or defeat the Bill. Let's do this. The Sponsor, Representative Currie, has worked very hard on this issue for the last several years, and now has the Bill in the form in which she wishes it to be considered. Oftentimes in Committee, a Sponsor is given the courtesy of having a Bill put in the form that that Sponsor wants us to vote it on, up or down. Now, if there are Members here who want to vote against this Bill because it has a 10 year provision to 1997, because they think that's too short, then let those Members vote "no" for that reason. But to take an Amendment, to stretch it out 20 years really makes a mockery of the process, makes a mockery of the Bill. It means that the Bill, if it passes, wouldn't have any meaningful impact on anything and so, let's give the Sponsor her day in court Representative Currie - and vote on this Bill on Third Reading in the form that it's in and oppose this Amendment."

"Is there further discussion? The Lady from Kane, to close."

"Merely to ask for your acceptance of this Amendment and to ask for a recorded Roll Call. I think we need to spread the 128 million out over a number of years. Thank you."

"The Lady moves the adoption of Amendment #6. All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 45 voting 'aye", 66 voting 'no', and the Amendment fails. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #7, offered by Representative Parcells."

"The Lady from Cook on Amendment 7." 119  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. May 15, 1987 This Amendment allows that no adjustment made pursuant to this Section shall result in an employee's earning more than the prevailing wage paid for that type of work performed by the employee in the locality in which he or she is employed. We do have the Department of Labor establishes a prevailing wage rate, and we can't say that if a truck driver earns 25,000 and a secretary is earning 12 and that they are rated the same, and she starts earning 25,000 and the prevailing wage rate in that locality is 15, she has jumped way above that rate. It would knock our free economy system into a cocked hat, and therefore, this is a very fine Amendment because it would allow her to reach but not exceed, depending upon what the job is, the prevailing rate set by the Department of Labor for that particular job. I move for its adoption."

"The Lady has moved the adoption of Amendment 7. And on that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook, Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. It's difficult enough to make the prevailing wage apply in State Government employ as it ought. The idea that we'll cap things at the prevailing wage is as destructive of this Bill as the other Amendments have been. I would urge a resounding 'no' vote on Amendment 7 to House Bill 678."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Parcells, to close." the Lady from Cook,

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This would not be destructive. This would bring those low salaries up to the prevailing wage, and if we jump way over that prevailing wage, it will be very destructive to the state budget, because this has been figured at 128 million, probably, and that will go on year after year after year. I move for the 120  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 adoption of this very fine Amendment, and I'd like a Roll Call vote."

"The Lady has moved the adoption of Amendment 7. All in favor vote 'aye", opposed vote 'no". The voting is open. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? On this question. there are 47 voting 'aye, 63 voting 'no', and the Amendment fails. Further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 805, Representative Hannig. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 805, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed with respect to Amendment #1."

"Any Floor Amendments? Any Floor Amendments?"

"Amendment #2 is offered by Representative Klemm."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from McHenry on Amendment 2. Mr. Klemm."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #2 allows local authorities, county boards and local authorities of municipalities who extend to private subdivisions the local option of having traffic control devices in private roads to enjoy at least the same immunity that we granted in Senate Bill 1200 to the local authorities on regular streets and highways. We left really a crack in the legislation because we excluded private streets and roads, and yet, we have a section of law in Illinois that if a written request were to be submitted to the local government, and they agree and by ordinance, adopt legislation within their municipal government to put a stop sign up, that they would at least have that same indemnity. 121  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 and under current law, so that's all this Bill does, and I ask for its adoption."

"The Gentleman moves the adoption of Amendment 1... Amendment 2. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment 2 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Hannig."

"The Gentleman from Macoupin on Amendment 3."

"Yes, thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. Amendment 3 simply adds a zip code to the Bill which was inadvertently left out by the Reference Bureau when they drafted the legislation. It does not change the thrust of the Bill or make any other significant changes, and I'd move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment 3. On that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment 3 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'no'... The Lady from Cook, Representative Wojcik. Do you seek recognition on this Amendment?"

"No, Ma'am."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment 3. And on that question, the question is, 'Shall Amendment 3 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Tate."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Macon, Representative Tate, on Amendment 4." 122  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. May 15, 1987 Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #4 is a little bit before its time. However, I'd suggest to the Membership that this is a... probably one of the more significant issues, and we will eventually... this Amendment will become law. And I move to table the Amendment."

"The Gentleman withdraws Amendment 4. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 815, Representative Greiman. Representative Greiman. Out of the record. 851. House 3ill 851, Representative Leverenz. Mr... Out of the record. House Bill 989, Representative AcPike. Representative McPike. Out of the recor Mr. Clerk, we'll go back on House Bill 851. Representative Leverenz. Read the Bill, please."

"House Bill 851, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Highway Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Pullen."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Pullen, on Amendment 1."

"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this Amendment would repeal the Vehicle Emissions Inspection Law, which is burdening probably half the motorists in Illinois. We have had enough experience with this law now to know that it isn't working well, that motorists are being required to stand in line... well, to sit in their cars in line for two, three, four, six hours and then told, Sorry. we're closed. Come back tomorrow. That motorists are being told that they must repair their cars. They do, 123  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 at considerable expense, then they come back and are told, *Well, sorry. Your car still doesn't meet the standards.' And they have to go back over and over, each time spending considerable amounts of money to try to attain a standard that will supposedly clean up the air. I believe that the policy that creates this law is aimed at the wrong direction by seeking to clean up the air in the Chicago area and some areas downstate, but particularly the Chicago area by harrassing motorists. Illinois communities are out of so-called compliance of federal standards only a part of only four days out of the year. For four days out of the year of poor air quality, the Legislature has created a very burdensome situation for, truly, millions of people. Furthermore, there are other sources of the same sorts of pollution which are far more offensive than automobiles, now that automobiles are outfitted with catalytic converters and use lead-free gas and all those other environmental regulations, but the auto always seems to be the vehicle for environmental cleanup. One of the greatest sources of air pollution, at least in the Chicago metropolitan area, and I think also in the St. Louis metropolitan area, frankly, is airplanes. One jet plane revving up its engines and taking off is equivalent to 700 cars idling for one hour in the amount of pollution that it spews. But the Legislature hasn't seemed very concerned about the pollution being spewed from planes, which ought to be a lot easier to control than millions of people's automobiles. Instead, the Legislature has picked on the motorist. I think it's time that that oppression ends, so I seek your support in Amendment #1 to repeal the Motor Vehicle Inspection Law. Thank you."

"Is there further discussion? The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Hoffman." 124  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

"Thank you, Madam Speaker."

"Representative Leverenz? Excuse me, Representative Hoffman. Representative Leverenz."

"Inquiry of the Chair on germaneness while the Gentleman is asking his question. I don't believe it's germane at all."

"Representative Hoffman, would you like to proceed with your remarks?"

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I think the key question here is compliance. In other words, the purpose for the inspection program was to come into compliance, at least as it was perceived by the Federal EPA, and that's why we're now fooling around including or excluding certain zip codes, because that's the way we set it up. The fact of the matter is that we are substantially... substantially in compliance. There really isn't any need for this. This was recognized last year by the Senate. This Bill passed... this issue passed the Senate as a Bill. This is a logical thing to do. It's a waste of the taxpayers' money, and certainly would be better spent in some area other than setting up these emission stations and giving these people who were there... employment... involved in reality. just a make work program, and so I rise in support of this Amendment."

"Thank you, Representative. Well, the Parliamentarian has ruled on the germaneness of the Amendment and finds neither vertical nor horizontal germaneness on this Amendment. They amend different codes altogether, and they apply to different Acts. As such, the Amendment is not germane. Representative Pullen."

"I would just like to say, Madam Chairman, that I am disappointed in that ruling, because this Bill was introduced as a Bill itself and sat in the Committee on 125  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 Assignment well beyond the three day limit and was never assigned to Committee, never had an opportunity to be heard anywhere, and now apparently, we aren't even going to have an opportunity to vote on it on the House floor, and I think that's very disappointing, because I think that the people of this state need relief from this burdensome law."

"Are there further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative McPike on House Bill 989. Out of the record. Representative Phelps on House Bill 1384. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1384, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of this Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"There are none."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1684, Representative McPike. Out of the record. House Bill 1806, Representative Phelps. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1806, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Phelps."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Saline on Amendment 1. Representative Phelps."

"Madam Speaker, I don't believe I have Amendment 1 request filed. LRB might help me out, here."

"Representative Phelps, did you file Amendment 1?"

"No."

"You did not."

"I don't think so. I just had the Bill itself." 126  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987

"There is an Amendment 1 with your name on it, so why don't we just withdraw?"

"Okay, thanks."

"Amendment 1 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1831, Representative Bowman. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Representative Bowman? Out of the record. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. 1831."

"House Bill 1831, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Comptroller Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2624, Representative Terzich. Representative Terzich, 2624. Do you want to proceed, Representative Terzich? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2624, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to the Metropolitan Fair and Exposition Authority. Second Reading of the Bill. Has been read a second time previously. Amendment #2 was adopted at that time."

"Any further Amendments? Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments?"

"Has the Fiscal Note requested been filed?"

"There is no Fiscal Note on file."

"Representative Terzich, the Bill will remain on the Order of Second Reading." 127  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

"No, May 15, 1987 Madam Speaker. I might add that there is... there really isn't any Fiscal Note to file on this particular Bill, because all it does is, it establishes a working fund, of which there are no funds in there. And therefore, I would Move that Fiscal Note is not required on this legislation."

"The Gentleman moves that the Fiscal Note Act is inapplicable. On that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative McCracken."

"I'll withdraw the note, Madam Speaker."

"The fiscal note request is withdrawn. The Bill will be reported to the Order of Third Reading. 2630, Representative Levin. Representative Levin? On 2630? Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Out of the record. 2768, Representative Shaw. Out of the record. 2810, Representative Churchill. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2810, a Bill for an Act in relationship to the powers of the Capitol Development Board. Second Reading of the Bill. It has been read a Second Time previously. Amendment 2 was adopted at that time."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Amendment #3 has been withdrawn. Next Floor Amendment is Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Churchill."

"The Gentleman from Lake on Amendment 4."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. This is basically the same Amendment that we discussed the other day. It authorizes the Capitol Development Board to have certain powers of eminent domain, and the power to subpoena and bring people into a hearing process. It says that the 128  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 Board can set up certain rules and regulations and about prequalifying for doing work for the Board and it says that certain expenses of litigation can be taken and placed into the General Obligation Bond Retirement Interest Fund. I ask for its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment 4, and on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment 4 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. Further Amendment? And the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. We're going to return to House Bill 1806, Representative Phelps. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House 3ill 1806, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. It's been moved to Third."

"I understand. The Gentleman requests leave to have the Bill returned to the Order of Second Reading for purposes of Amendment. Is the leave granted? Leave is granted. The Bill will be returned to the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1806, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Phelps."

"Amendment 1. Would the Clerk read Amendment 1, please."

"The Gentleman has moved the... Representative Phelps."

"It's just a technical Amendment. It's Amendment 1 that we overlooked a while ago, so I would urge 'do pass'."

"Amendment #l is being offered by Representative Phelps."

"The Gentleman moves the adoption of Amendment #1 129  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 and on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment 1 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. On the Order of Second Reading, Farm Assistance and Development, appears House Bill 2378, Representative Olson. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill... House Bill 2378, at the bottom of page 5, a Bill for an Act to amend the law in relationship to grain dealers. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2837, Representative Hasara. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2837, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. On the Order of Second Reading, Environment and Economic Development, appears House Bill 899, Representative Younge, Hyvetter. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 899, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by 130  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day Representative Hyvetter Younge."

"Thank you May 15, 1987 "The Lady from St. Clair, Representative Younge." very much, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. Amendment #1 to House Bill 899 guts the Bill and makes the new subject matter, the Metro-East Solid Waste Disposal and Energy Producing Service. This is the same Chapter of the... of the Statute, so it's germane, but this Metro-East Solid Waste Disposal Service was signed into law by the Governor last year, and at the time I promised to make some changes in the Statute. Number one, taking out the Director of EPA as a member of the Board, and several other technical changes and the effort by Amendment #1 is to make those promises realities and I move for the adoption of the Amendment."

"The Lady moves the adoption of Amendment 1, and on that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative McCracken."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. A Point of Order. I believe the Amendment is not germane. The original Bill amends the Environmental Protection Act. This amends the Metro-East Solid Waste Disposal and Energy Producing Service Act. We therefore lack, is it horizontal or vertical germaneness? It lacks diagonal germaneness."

"The same Statute is amended, Madam Chairman."

"Representative McCrack... the... McCracken, the Parliamentarian finds that the Amendment is germane on the basis of horizontal or diagonal germaneness. as you may have it, but they both deal with the same subject matter, and so it is germane."

"I am shocked by that ruling, after some of the other rulings we have had today. To the Amendment. Will the Sponsor yield for questions?"

"Indicates she will." 131  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day McCracken: Younge: Act May 15, 1987 "My copy says that this deletes the provision of the which makes the Director of the Environmental Protection Agency a service member. Is that right?" "Yes. One of the members of the Board of the Metro-East Solid Waste Disposal entity was... is, under the Statute now, the Director of the EPA. The Director of EPA felt that there might be some instances where they would have to regulate this solid waste disposal agency, so it was inappropriate for him to be on the Board."

"Okay."

"And I agreed to take him off for those reasons."

"Okay. And it deletes the provision requiring funding for this service. Is that correct?"

"No. I don't think that that's an accurate... interpretation of the... on what page are you referring to?"

"The last page. Page 7 of the Amendment. The bonds shall be limited to the obligations of the service and they do not have the full faith and credit of the State of Illinois and do not constitute state indebtedness'."

"That's correct. It... it was the feeling of the EPA that the provisions that are stated in this Amendment make it more clear that the State of Illinois does not have any responsibility for the bonds."

"Okay. What is the means by which the service will retire the bonds?"

"Tipping fees."

"Pardon me?"

"Tipping fees. Fees for the receipt of trash and solid waste."

"Okay. Alright. Have bonds been issued already?"

"No. Bonds have not been issued. The Metro-East Solid Waste Disposal Service will do a five year plan, 132  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 determining the kind of solid waste disposal technology and, as a result of that technology, the size of the plant that is needed, then there will be a determination of what the fees are, and what the bonds are, and that... those stages have not gone into effect."

"Okay. Thank you. Nothing further."

"Is there further discussion? The Gentleman from Winnebago, Representative Hallock."

"Yes, Madam Speaker. My question... the reason my light was on, was not to the Amendment, but to you as the Speaker, and was on the Amendment itself in the Order. We have had presented some Amendments which were on the same Chapter and the same subject as others which have been suggested. Those have been ruled out of order and not germane. This one, in fact, is on the same Chapter and I would say probably is germane, but why is it that our's were not and your's were? I guess what I'm trying to ascertain here, is there a certain standard that we can be expected to try to utilize to make sure our's are right on target, so we don't have that problem in the future?"

"Yes."

"Well, I appreciate that. Could you indicate what that standard is SO that we can make sure we want to meet that guideline. Out staff is working very hard to draft these Amendments and we want to make sure they're all proper, so if you could instruct us as to what that guideline is, we'd appreciate it."

"At the appropriate time, Representative. Thank you."

"Thank you."

"The Lady moves the adoption of House... of Amendment #1 to House Bill 899. All in favor say 'aye', all opposed say 'no". In the opinion of the Chair the 133  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 *ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"House Bill 900, Representative Wyvetter Younge. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Third Reading on House Bill 899."

"House Bill 900, a Bill for an Act to create the Business and Education Cooperation Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Wyvetter Younge."

"The Lady from St. Clair on Amendment 1."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. Amendment #1 to House Bill 900 makes the Bill statewide. It takes out School District 188 and 189 and makes the enterprise programs applicable to all over the state. I move for the adoption of the Amendment."

"The Lady moves the adoption of Amendment 1, and on that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Kubik."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Lady yield?"

"She indicates she will."

"Representative, did I hear it that you said the Amendment makes the program statewide?"

"Yes, Representative Kubik, during the presentation in the Committee there was a question and a suggestion that it would be more appropriate for this program to be statewide so that other school districts could participate in entre... entrepreneural training, and so the Amendment does that pursuant to my promise."

"If my memory serves me correctly, there were three appropriation Bills that were providing the funding for 134  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 your pilot program. Have those also been amended to."

"Yes, they have been amended and they'll be one making it just appropriate for statewide. Just one."

"Just one that would make it... "

"Yes."

"Okay. Thank you."

"The Lady has moved the adoption of Amendment #1. On that, is there any further discussion? There being none, the question is, "Shall Amendment 1 be adopted?" All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1034, Representative Wyvetter Younge. Has the fiscal note been filed on this Bill? Representative Younge? Turn Hyvetter Younge on. Thank you."

"No."

"Representative Younge? There's no fiscal note on file on this Bill. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1034, a Bill for an Act to provide for jobs in the public sector. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Hyvetter Younge."

"The Lady from St. Clair."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. Amendment #1 fills the Bill out. It was more of a shell and it creates the Illinois Guaranteed Job Opportunity Act, sets out the eligibility requirements and the skeleton as to the... how the Job Opportunities Program will work and I move for the adoption of the Bill." 135  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987

"The Lady moves the adoption of Amendment 1, and on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment 1 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Representative McCracken."

"We filed as fiscal note as requested... strike that, as amended, in the anticipation of this Amendment getting on and I also think that it deletes the title and inserts a new one in lieu thereof, and I move... or I demand that it be returned to Second Reading, First Legislative Day."

"We'll have to check the Bill for a moment, Representative."

"Madam Speaker, that's the fiscal note."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative McAuliffe. For what reason do you rise?"

"Madam Speaker, while we're at ease, I'd like to introduce the 8th Grade Class from the Grace School up here in the balcony behind us. Representative Berrios' wife is a teacher at the school. They came down to visit Springfield."

"Welcome. Representative Younge. In the first instance, a fiscal note request has been filed to the Bill as amended, and so for the Bill to move from the Order of Second Reading, that will have to be filed. Secondly, as Representative McCracken points out, under the terms of the Rule, because the title of the Bill has been amended, it will be returned to the Order of Second Reading, First Legislative Day."

"Madam Speaker, may I suggest that the... it is still the same program. There is no change in the substance of a job 136  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 service program. It's the same subject matter, in fact."

"Representative Younge, even if the Fiscal Note Act were not applicable, if we were to vote on that and the Fiscal Note Act were ruled 'not applicable', the Bill would still have to be returned to the Order of Second Reading, First Legislative Day, because of the Amendment to the title of the Act. The Bill will remain on the Order of Second Reading."

"May I move that that Rule be waived?"

"Representative McCracken."

"It either takes unanimous leave or 71 votes, I'm not sure which, but it's... it's not an ordinary Motion."

"Sixty votes, Madam Speaker."

"Representative Younge, under Rule 36, 36(d) to be specific, your second Motion will require 60 votes. Similarly, the Motion to have the Fiscal Note Act deemed inapplicable requires 60 votes."

"No. I... I haven't... I haven't moved that the Fiscal Act Rule be moved inapplicable, I have filed the Fiscal Act Statement."

"You filed the fiscal note to the Bill originally, but not as amended, and the Rule that 'as amended the Fiscal Note Act does not apply. The Lady so moved. All in favor say 'aye', all in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. The Fiscal Note Act is inapplicable. This Bill... this vote requires the majority of those voting. The Fiscal Note Act is inapplicable. Have all voted? The Clerk will take the record. On this issue there are 57 voting aye, 51 voting 'no' and the Fiscal Note Act is ruled inapplicable to House Bill 1034 as Amended. The second... now the Lady moves that the Bill be... that Rule 36(d) be suspended and on that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative McCracken." 137  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

May 15, 1987 "Parliamentary inquiry. How many votes does the Chair contend this takes?"

"Representative McCracken, the Rules say that this vote... this Motion takes 60 votes, on page 20 of your Rule Book. It is not a determination of the Chair. It's in the Rules."

"I know, but what... let me rephrase this."

"Sixty votes."

"Let me rephrase it. What Section are you referring to of the Rules?"

"36(d)."

"36(d)."

"Rule 83(b) provides, Any Rule may be suspended upon a proper Motion etc., you can read it yourself. on page 37."

"Okay."

It's Speaker Braun: "The Lady has moved to suspend Rule 36(d). All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. It requires 60 votes. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. Representative Dunn was getting back to his chair. The Board is locked. that's alright. On this question there are 62 voting Well, 'aye, 45 voting 'no', and the Lady's Motion prevails. For what reason... the Bill will... the Bill will be moved to the Order of Third Reading. For what reason does the Gentleman from Winnebago, Representative Hallock, rise?"

"Well, Madam Speaker, I'd like to make the observation here that not everything in this chamber should be decided by who has the majority. You know, there are some Rules we should follow, and I think on one, for example, the Fiscal Note Act, there's probably few Bills we've had this Session that will have more of a fiscal impact than the Bill we 138  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 just debated. Clearly you can say that the Act doesn't apply by a vote of your Members, but without any doubt, the Act should apply, and you know that. And secondly, on this second issue, clearly, you have the votes again to override that, but if you stop and think about it, you know what you did was wrong, and you ought to stop doing that in the future."

"On the Calendar appears House Bill 1217, Representative Phelps. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1217, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to Southern Illinois University. Second Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Clerk, the Bill will be taken out of the record. At this time we're going to take a brief break and I'm going to introduce, for purposes of an announcement, Representative Brunsvold, the Gentleman from Rock Island."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. With leave of the House, I would like to have House Resolution 404 heard at this time."

"House Resolution 404. Whereas, Representative Charles 'Chuck' Pangle, from the 86th District, will be leaving the Legislature to join the executive branch of government in a post with the Department of Conservation; and whereas, "Chuck" will become Deputy Director of Recreational Resource Administration at the Department of Conservation; and whereas, Viewing the change as one which will allow him to serve a greater number of Illinois residents, Chuck Pangle said that he intends to work just as hard for the people of the 86th District in Kankakee and Iroquois Counties, and for the rest of the people of Illinois, as he has in the past, and whereas, He looks forward to working on important local programs, like the clean-up of Kankakee and Iroquois Rivers, the improvement 139  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 of Kankakee River State Park, and improvements of hunting and fishing in Illinois; and whereas, Chuck was born in Kankakee County, graduated from Bradley-Bourbonnais High School, where he was President of the Student Council and played football all four years, set a record in track, and was named All-Around Athlete of the Year, and then attended the University of California and Kankakee Community College; and whereas, From 1960 to 1964, he served in the U. S. Navy aboard the U.S.S. Marked; and whereas, He and his wife, Shirley, have 5 children; and whereas, He has a distinguished record of public service, which began in 1964 when he was appointed Chief Deputy Treasurer of Kankakee County; later, he served as Associate Circuit Clerk and County Treasurer; and whereas, Chuck was recognized as the Most Outstanding Young Man in Kankakee County in 1968, and he has a record (sic-was active) in the Illinois Young Republicans ... Young Democrats and many service clubs; and whereas, First elected to the House of Representatives in 1982, Chuck Pangle served on committees on Agriculture, Appropriations I, Counties and Townships, and Veterans' Affairs, as well as on the Select Committees on Aeronautics and on Children; he chaired the Subcommittee on Veterans' Affairs; and whereas, He leaves a record of service that will be hard to match; therefore, be it resolved, by the House of Representatives of the 85th General Assembly of the State of Illinois, that we congratulate Charles "Chuck" Pangle on his challenging new assignment as Deputy Director of Recreational Resource Administration at the Department of Conservation; and that we express our regret at losing such an able colleague; and that we wish him much happiness and success in his new job; and be it further resolved, that a suitable copy of this Preamble and Resolution be presented to Chuck Pangle with our warmest best wishes." 140  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 47th Legislative Day

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Rock Island on the Resolution."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I've been Chuck Pangle's office mate for a number of years now, and I sat down to list some things good about Chuck and I got a blank piece of paper. He thought he was going to get out of this easy. When I sat down, I thought, let's go back to our 1983 class, which is kind of a historic class, and I'd ask those Members to stand if they would. It's quite a large class. We're a reapportionment class and also a cutback Amendment class. So, it's a little historic class and we're losing one of our Members. Chuck started out... yesterday, I think Representative Hultgren went up into the balcony to visit a constituent. Well, I want you to know that Chuck Pangle went up there three times before he figured out what's going on. We're not really losing Chuck Pangle. As the father of the bride walking down, so, I'm not losing my daughter, I'm gaining a son. We're not losing Chuck Pangle, we're gaining a deer permit is what's happening here. Legislation that we sponsor over the years is, of course, very important to us, but I think even above that, and I'm sure above that, it's a friendship we developed on this House Floor. And one of those has been Chuck Pangle. I consider him one of my best friends. And with that, Chuck, I would ask that we adopt the Amendment and allow all Members to be added. Excuse me. Adopt the Resolution."

Speaker Braun: "The Gentleman has moved the adoption of House Resolution 404. And on that, is there further discussion? The Gentleman... the Chair recognizes the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Daniels."

"Chuck, we want to join with all the people here, in the General Assembly, to wish you Godspeed and best wishes in 141  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 the your new career of conservation, and hopefully, that you will have much success and happiness in that position. And it is true that we are losing a colleague, but we own a continued friendship that will last forever, as, once again, we expand our relationships in the fraternity of those Members in the General Assembly. For I think that as we go through, and, yes, at times have some heated partisan battles, disagreements on legislation, representation on every area in our district. It's true that we can get very vocal and very strong and very forceful on those views, but above all, each and every Member of this House understands that we care about every Member of the House, Republican, Democrat, male, female, or whatever. Chuck Pangle is one of the Gentleman of the Illinois General Assembly, and he has, indeed, made his mark here and has been a valued Member. And to all of us on this side of the aisle, Chuck, we wish you the best. We will be looking forward to seeing you on many, many occasions in the future. And Godspeed."

"Is there further discussion? The Lady from Cook, Representative Didrickson."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. As a Member of that infamous class of '83, I would just like to say that many of us over on this side, myself included in that class, always thought that Chuck Pangle would have made an outstanding Republican, but we were delighted. And I think the Assistant Clerk had it right when he said it first. But, we were delighted to able to be down here with you, Chuck, these last four years, wish you the ... only the best in your new job with the Department of Conservation. And all I ask is that you remember, when you're over at Conservation, the 37th District when you are handing out grants and doing your job there. The best to you and your family." 142  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987

"Is there further discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Madigan."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. Personally and on behalf of the House Democrats, I wish to offer my best wishes to Chuck and to his family. I first met Chuck when we were drawing reapportionment lines back in the corner office, and he had some ideas on how to draw the lines that did not coincide with our ideas at the time, but as usual, given his perseverance and his goodwill, he prevailed, and the lines were drawn the way he thought they should be drawn. And, of course, that began the journey through this chamber. He has been an outstanding Member of the House of Representatives. He has represented his district and his community to the best of his ability. I told him just the other day that a tribute to his success as a Legislator was his ability to persuade me to actually visit the City of Kankakee two or three times since he became a Member of the House. Here, in the chamber, he's been active, aggressive. He has brought a great deal of insight and foresight to the legislative process. I will miss him. I'm sure all of us will miss him, but our bottom line is that he will have more time for his family and that together he and the family will enjoy much more happiness than they are enjoying right now. So, again, Chuck, the best of luck. Best wishes."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Panayotovich."

"Thanks. Five years ago, I ran into a guy that meant a lot to me. And I went out one night and had a drink with him. I've been doing it with him since then, too, up until last night and this morning. He's my friend, he's my roommate. He didn't clean the toilet this morning, either. And for those of you that attended the party last 143  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 night. and I want to thank those that came and those that helped pay for it, we'll have new grass and trees next year for all the rest of the parties we have. He's my seatmate, he's my classmate. He's a hell of a good customer. There are SO many things you could say about somebody that's going to leave you, in this level, you know, and I wish I could sing a song right now. Now, I want to thank the people of the 86th District for sending US Chuck Pangle, and we'll break the new guy in, too, Chuck. He'll be here to push my button for me. All I can say, Chuck, is, we love you here. We have the sign here, if anybody didn't sign it, and also from the Members, we have a plaque here for your new office, an appreciation award for having Chuck Pangle. I love you, and good luck. Thanks."

"The Gentleman from Kankakee, Representative Pangle."

"This thing still isn't working. What can I say? Sam Panayotovich is kind of like a guy that you've known your whole life and is part of my life and always will be. It was a tough decision on my part to decide to leave the House. At home, I always call it inside the tank, pressure tank, because it is. I have, I think, a lot of close friends here, friends that I will continue to work with and be friends. I don't have a pocket full of deer permits or turkey permits, but I'm sure that if I could help anyone, I'll be more than happy to. So, Michael Madigan and Leadership on both sides of the aisle, I've enjoyed it. I've learned a lot about politics and I have learned a lot about government. It took me twenty-two years of my life to become a Member of this House, and it was worth every minute of every door I knocked on, every chicken barbecue, every parade, it was worth every minute of that to be a Member of this distinguished Body. I can only say to you 144  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 that I'll be back next week to visit. I'll be back next month to visit. I'll be back next year, and I'll be back the year after that, the year after that. I'm not falling off the end of the earth. I will be back. I can only say to the Pages, we forget about how hard you bust your buns, and that you do. And to have had a very nice gift this morning from the Gentleman back in the back room, shoe shine guy, I have a cup and lovely poem that he give to me, little things like that that mean a lot. To the doormen, I don't see how you put up with us in and out all the time, that's got to be difficult. And I would only suggest to you as Legislators that every single one of us today that sit on this House Floor represent 100,000 people. We represent them, I would hope, to the best of our ability and to stand up for what they believe in, what they care about and that's exactly our purpose to be here. Sometimes we have a tendency to get so involved with other things that we don't think about the people back home. And I would suggest to you that you stand up for your rights. And as a downstate Democrat, I can only say to you, if you can get more than a slab of bacon to bring home, if you can get the ham, do it, but don't let other people get the whole hog. I think that's important. Thank you very much. I've enjoyed your friendship. I've enjoyed your love. And I'll miss you all, and I'll especially miss my very, very best friend, Sam Panayotovich. Thank you."

"Representative Brunsvold moves the adoption of the Resolution. All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Resolution is unanimously adopted. Representative... Returning to the Calendar, page six, House Bill 1290. Representative Currie. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1290, a Bill for an Act to amend the 145  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 Illinois Human Rights Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, is being offered by Representative Currie."

"The Lady from Cook, on Amendment 1."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. This Amendment is proposed by the Legislative Reference Bureau. Inadvertently, some existing language was left out when they drafted the statute. I move for the adoption of Amendment 1 to House Bill 1290."

"The Lady moves the adoption of Amendment 1. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment 1 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1359, Representative Levin."

"House Bill 1359, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to chemical safety plans. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, is being offered by Representative Levin."

"Gentleman from Cook, on Amendment 1."

"Madam Speaker, I think this Bill probably should be taken from the record."

"Out of the record. House Bill 1403, Representative Bowman. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 146  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987

"House Bill 1403, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment 2, is offered by Representative Cullerton."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, on Amendment 2. John Cullerton, on this Amendment."

"Yes, could I... Madam Speaker, if I could ask the Clerk to read the Amendment."

"Amendment 22, amends House Bill 1403 as amended, referencing the page and line numbers of House Amendment #1 on page 1, line 17, by changing 10 to 11."

"Representative Cullerton."

"Well, that's... that's what I thought. And I would move for the adoption of the Amendment. It's obviously technical."

"The Gentleman moves the adoption of Amendment #2. All in... on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment 2 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment 3, offered by Representative Bowman."

"Gentleman from Cook, on Amendment 3."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Some of the legislative findings in this particular Bill offended the Chemical Industry Council and I certainly would not wish to do that, so I offered Amendment #3 to delete the language that they found offensive. It does not 147  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 delete the entire legislative findings, mind you, but it does delete a portion that they found offensive. And so, I'm please to offer Amendment #2. I move its adoption. I'm sorry, Amendment #3. I move its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment 3. And on that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative McCracken."

"Does this make your Bill more or less Reaganesque?"

"Less, very less."

"Then, it must be a. let's see, good or bad."

"Oh, you'll love it, Representative McCracken."

"The Gentleman moves the adoption of Amendment 3. All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1672, Representative Stern. Representative Stern, on 1672. Out of the record. House Bill 1819, Representative Klemm. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1819, a Bill for an Act to amend the Prairie Trail Authority Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"There are none."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1829, Representative Bowman. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1829, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Housing Development Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative 148  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day McCracken." May 15, 1987

"Gentleman from DuPage, on Amendment 1."

"This Bill would provide that the Department of Revenue, rather than IHDA, would be the state's designated housing agency for purposes of administering the federal low income housing tax credits. I move its adoption."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, on Amendment 1, Bowman."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentleman of the House. Will the Sponsor of the Amendment yield for a question?"

"Yes."

"Thank you. It's my turn to ask you a question, Representative McCracken. the Department of Revenue?"

Why did you want to move it to McCracken: "Only because tax and tax credits are something it deals with all the time."

"I see. Well, to the Amendment, Ladies and Gentlemen. I am a little puzzled by Representative McCracken's obtuseness on this particular Amendment because: number one, the State Department of Revenue deals with state tax credits, not federal tax credits. The Illinois Housing Development Authority has already been designated by the Governor as the agency responsible for making this particular allocation because the tax credit in question deals with housing tax credits and they have the most experience in determining what and... would and what would not fall within federal housing guidelines. So, given the fact that they have the expertise in this area and given the fact that the Governor has made that designation, I see no reason to shift this over to Revenue. So, I stand in opposition to the Amendment."

"Is there further discussion? The Gentleman from 149  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 Cook, Representative Cullerton."

"Recognize... Turn on Representative Cullerton's microphone, please. He was recognized by the Chair."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Representative Phelps. Thank you. Hello. Hello."

"Representative Cullerton."

"Yes. Yes."

"What reason do you rise?"

"Well, I've been up here for about 30 seconds waiting for the microphone to go on."

"Oh, I thought it was on."

"No, because the person over there didn't hear who you called on. So, then, Representative Bowman's microphone was still on. He yelled into the microphone, turn on Cullerton's microphone, and you were talking to Representative Phelps."

"Yes."

"So, I just said, hello.”

"You got our attention."

"Yes. Yes."

"Proceed, Representative Cullerton."

"I wanted to object to the Amendment. I think, first of all, Representative Bowman, as the Sponsor of the Bill, certainly should have the right to, on Third Reading, to debate the merits of the Bill, and I think that it's clear that he believes it should be an IHDA. The other issue, of course, is the... by sending it over to Revenue, you would create one more hassle for Revenue which is undergoing a lot of turmoil right now as it is. The very existence of the director is at doubt right now. So, it's clear that Revenue is not the appropriate place. It would appear to me that IHDA... the reason why Representative McCracken indicated he that Revenue should have it is because Revenue 150  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 is familiar with tax credits. The reason why IHDA should have it is because IHDA is familiar with housing and the Bill deals with the issue of tax credits for housing. So, I would object to ... urge a 'no' vote on the Gentleman's Amendment."

"My turn."

"No, not yet. Is there further discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Young."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I understand why this Amendment was filed and I basically agree with it. It must be an acknowledgment from Representative McCracken that IHDA has been totally unable to deal with the problems of low and moderate income housing in this state and; therefore, he'd like to see someone else attempt it. And so, while I do agree with you Representative McCracken that IHDA has totally failed to provide low and moderate income housing. I oppose the Amendment because it is Representative Bowman's Bill and he apparently wants to give them another chance. So, I rise in opposition even though I do understand why the Amendment was filed."

"Is there further discussion? The Chair... Lady from St. Clair, Representative Younge."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I also rise to oppose this Amendment for the reason that the tax credit may be the only opportunity that the poor have for the new housing under the federal laws. And it very important that that tax credit be administered by an agency that at least knows something about housing. And so, therefore, the whole possibility of having the agency be the Department of Revenue rather than IHDA is totally ridiculous as a notion, and this Amendment should be opposed for those reasons."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from DuPage, 151  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day Representative McCracken, to close."

May 15, 1987 "Thank you. I think Representative Younge made a very good point that IHDA has failed miserably at doing its job so far. So, why should we think they should be the agency that should administer the federal tax credit. The fact of the matter is that on Second Readings, I am not aware of a practice or precedent where we defer to the Gentleman's Bill merely because it says Bill. I recognize that custom in Committee, and I think it's a good custom. But, when we get to the floor, the purpose is to discuss germane Amendments on Second Reading. So, I don't agree that just because Representative Bowman is the author of the Bill, placing the authority for the administration of this tax credit in IHDA that this Amendment should not be considered on its merits. And so, I think that the Gentleman spoke very eloquently in support of this measure on the merits and I think that is the basis on which it should be considered. Therefore, I ask for your support."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment #1. All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the... All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 51 voting 'aye', 60 voting 'no'. The Amendment fails. Further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1882, Representative Dunn. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1882, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act creating the Board of Higher Education. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"There are none." 152  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DESATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987

"Third Reading. House Bill 1887. Out of the record. House Bill 1898, Representative Williams. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1898, a Bill for an Act concerning purchases by units of local government and school districts. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, is being offered by Representative Parcells and Black."

"The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook, Representative Parcells, on Amendment 1."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This Amendment would state that if the operation, by a unit of local government of any facility, for treatment, storage of disposal of waste or sewage, or of any transportation facility, results in a decrease in the value of any real property, such operation shall be deemed to constitute a taking for public purpose. And the owner of such real property shall be entitled to receive compensation for such decrease in value from the unit of local government in an action brought in the appropriate Circuit Court. We are placing garbage dumps, if you will, in transfer stations and different places and; in my particular community, there was one thought to be within a very few feet of very fine residences, and if it would decrease the value of their property, I think they should be justly compensated and that's why I offered this Amendment."

"The Lady has moved the adoption of Amendment 1. And on that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Young."

"Inquiry of the Chair. I would question the germaneness of this Amendment." 153  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987

"Representative Parcells, the Parliamentarian advises that the Bill is not germane. In the first instances, it amends a different Act. In the second instance, the Bill itself deals with purchasing by local governments, and your Amendment deals with waste and waste treatment. As such, it is neither vertically, nor horizontally germane, and it's SO determined. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1899, Representative Williams. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1899, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Purchasing Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Ladies and Gentlemen, first, I'd like to compliment the Membership, we have moved a considerable number of Bills in the last few days and will continue to, hopefully, if the spirit of cooperation, bipartisan cooperation, continues, we will be able to move as many or more next week. The intention of the Chair at this time is that we will take the Regular Consent Calendar, which appears on page 50 of your Calendar, and will vote on that. The yellow pages, that is to say the other Consent Calendar, will be taken up Monday approximately one hour after we come in and Members will be given an opportunity to remove their names within the two or three hours thereafter, but, we will take up the Consent Calendar on page 50 of the Calendar. Thereafter, We will have an important Death Resolution. Thereafter, I will bid you all ado for the weekend. Mr. Clerk, on the Consent Calendar on page 50. Mr. Clerk, read the Bills." 154  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

May 15, 1987 "Consent Calendar Third Reading, Third Day. These Bills has been read a third time previously. However, House Bill 919 has been removed from the Consent Calendar."

"The question is, 'Shall these Bills pass?" All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote "no". The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted? Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 114 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and the Consent Calendar... House Bills... House Bills, appearing on the Consent Calendar Third Reading, are hereby declared passed. On page three of the Calendar, we've had a request from Representative Cullerton on House Bill 80. On page three of the Calendar. This was a Bill which was previously considered and we are now returning to it. Representative Homer."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. A point of order. The Bills that were on page... beginning of page 50 of the Regular Calendar. Consent Calendar, it's been brought to my attention that a number of those Bills also appear on House Calendar Supplemental #1. Will it be the intent of the Chair to instruct the Clerk to delete those Bills which are duplicates from Supplemental #1?"

"Yes."

"Thank you."

"House Bill 80. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 80, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Amendments 2 and 3 were disposed of previously 155  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day today. Floor Cullerton." May 15, 1987 Amendment #5, offered by Representative

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton, on Amendment 5."

"Yes. Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill was taken out of the record at my request in order for me to talk to the Minority... attorney for the Minority Party, which I have done at some great length, which was fruitful, in that I think we now both have a better understanding of what the Bill does, and certainly, Amendment #5. I would like to, once again, explain then what Amendment #5 does. The first thing it does is to say that this Bill which... that the procedures that allow for the suspension of a license after a certain number of tickets, that procedure is available to any municipality which, whether or not they adopt the adjudicatory proceeding or not, SO that a municipality which continues to enforce parking tickets through the court proceedings may also cause drivers license to be suspended. It makes minor word... minor wording changes. It clarifies language relating to the traffic ticket being consider prima facie evidence. It allows for a copy to be used instead of the original. It provides that a person with a parking shall be provided an opportunity for a hearing rather than actually requiring a hearing if no one ever requested one. And it strikes language so as to allow for the administrative review law to control the time for filing for administrative review. I would move for the adoption of Amendment #5 and will be happy to answer any questions. I would indicate that the subject matter of contention that still remains with the Minority Party really revolves around whether or not we should adopt Amendment #6 or not. So, I'd be happy to urge us to defer 156  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASS EMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 the debate on that issue to when it's appropriate and move for the adoption of Amendment #5."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment #5. On that, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from McDonough, Representative Slater."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield for questions?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative Cullerton, if I went to Chicago and over a course of time frame of a year received ten tickets, I would then be subject to suspension of my drivers license. However, it's my understanding that the City of Chicago would give me some notice before they transmit it to the Secretary of State. Is that correct?"

"Yes."

"And, when they give me this notice, what's it going to say and where do I have to go to protect my rights if some of those tickets were issued to me supposedly, but it was somebody elses vehicle?"

"Well, let's put this in prospective then. You would have received a hang-on notice or what normally is referred to as a ticket itself. That's attached to your car. That's the first notice. And that notice tells you you have a right to a hearing. If you have not responded or paid the ticket or requested a hearing, a second notice goes out to you indicating you have a right to a hearing. When that... if that has been ignored, a third notice goes out to you telling you that you're about to have your license... you're going to be reported to the Secretary of State that you now have had two notices that you've ignored. Okay. The Bill says that a municipality that makes this certified report to the Secretary of State shall 157  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 also establish by ordinance a procedure for persons to challenge the accuracy of the certified report. You would have then received this notice that I referred to telling you of your right to challenge the accuracy of the report. So, you have a note... you have the hang-on ticket. That's you first notice. The second notice is a letter telling you that you have a right to a hearing. And finally, you'd received a third notice. If you've ignored all those, the Secretary of State's Office will be notified that you have ten tickets or more. Then you're notified again that you have a right to go into the Secretary of State's Office before your license would be suspended."

"That's... that's what I guess the real question. When I get that notice that my license is going to be suspended, that final notice, where do I have the right for that administrative review?"

"The... depends on which notice you're referring to. I imagine the final notice is the one that comes out from the Secretary of State's Office."

"Well, Mr. Cullerton, I'm referring to the provision in the Amendment, which says that determination is subject to the administrative review law."

"Oh."

"I want to know where I get administrative review."

"So, you're talking about on page nine of the Bill. This deals with the issue of when you want to go to court. You're out of the administrative review process and you want to go to court. And there is certain time periods which you can seek judicial review, and that's all the Amendment does. It just addresses that issue when you can file for a court hearing, which you are entitled to under this law."

"I have a real problem knowing when I've got judicial 158  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 review available to me and when I've got administrative relief available to me. And you're not answering my questions."

"Well, no... Your question refers to the issue of when... my answer to your question is, that Section... in that Section, we're talking about going to court in front of a Judge to challenge the findings of the administrative review process that was held in the municipality."

"So, the City of Chicago..."

"And all this Amendment says is that this... the time frame for filing is the same as it is under the administrative review law. Okay."

"If somebody from my home area has ten tickets in Chicago, ten legitimate tickets in Chicago, where is he going to have to go in order to get this administrative review? Does he go to Chicago? Does he go to Springfield? Does he do it in Macomb?"

"If there are ten legitimate tickets, he doesn't have to go to Chicago. He simply has to pay them. You're talking about someone from your hometown, who has ten legitimate tickets, who has ignored thirty notices, that he or she has received these tickets, then if they want a hearing, they have to go to Chicago. That's correct."

"Okay."

"Just as your hometown adopts this ordinance, and I've got ten tickets in your hometown, I'd have to go to your hometown after ignoring the thirty notices."

"Oh, there still has to be municipal action after this Bill is passed."

"Yes. It has to be an enactment by... and this does not just apply to Chicago, it applies to the whole state. It's permissive in that they can decide whether or not they wish to adopt the ordinance." 159  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

"Okay. If have five tickets in Peoria, Chicago, and 12..."

"Ten per municipality. May 15, 1987 six tickets in And the final adjudicatory hearing is held at the Secretary of State's Office before you lose your license. You have a right after you have received this notice from the Secretary of State that your license is about to be suspended because you have failed to pay ten tickets in a municipality, you have a right to a hearing in the Secretary of State's Office."

"Representative Cullerton, does this have retroactivity?"

"No."

"So, this is only... the City of Chicago."

"It only have... Right, City of Chicago or any other municipality, and believe me, there are other municipalities that are interested in enacting this ordinance who have indicated an interest in it. Especially affects Urbana, specifically has indicated as well as Wheaton."

"Okay. So, if somebody in my community had ten tickets, or whether, eight tickets three years ago, and he goes back up... we're not going to nail him until he's go..."

"From the date that this law goes into effect, from the date forward from when the city enacts the ordinance and only after there is ten tickets, would that person ever have to worry about the suspension of their license."

"Now, is there any time limit on the ten tickets?"

"No."

"So, assuming that it goes into effect the beginning of 1988, we're going to tack for time and memorial from then on."

"Yes, but remember the notice includes the date, the time and the location of the ticket. So, if you got one ticket each year that you didn't pay and you ignored these 160  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 notices for ten years, admittedly you'll get hearing... you'll get a notice saying you're about ready to lose your license for failure to pay a ticket ten years ago. All you have to do is pay one of them and no longer would have... be eligible for your license to be suspended."

"Is there any reason that you didn't put a statute of limitations concept in here?"

"I don't think it's really necessary. First of all, it's prospective. This Bill is prospective and that it's only going to be ten tickets from here on forward after the Bill passes. And secondly, it can be cured. You know, what's going to trigger the suspension is a recent ticket. Okay. It's the most recent ticket that you got. If it happens to be you tenth one, it's going to trigger this potential suspension. So, in that respect, it's... all you have to do is pay it and you won't have to worry about losing your license."

"Let me take you back just a second to this administrative review."

"We're not on Third Reading. I might want to point out. We're not on Third Reading."

"But the Amendment provides for administrative review."

"Amendment is... no, the Amendment is technical. It just deals with the issue of when the time frame... what time frame we're talking about for filing for administrative review."

"Administrative review is not part of this Amendment, then?"

"Yes. Listen to what I just said."

"I heard what you just said."

"The Amendment deals with what I explained. It deletes language which attempts to state when the time for administrative review commences and instead replaces it 161  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 with the Administrative Review Act which governs that time. That's when after you've ignored all these hearings and you want to now go to court to challenge the findings of the administrative review. That's what that specific Section deals with."

"Okay. Where do I do that now?"

"Where do you... you file it in a Circuit Court."

"In the Circuit Court of the jurisdiction which has adopted the ordinance and is attempting to enforce it against me?"

"Right. Right."

"But, where do we fall into the purview or the ambient of the Secretary of State?"

"That is a separate hearing that you're entitled to have at the Secretary of State's Office after you have received ten tickets or more, which you haven't paid after you've ignored the hearings or have lost at the hearings and refuse to pay any of the ten tickets, and the Secretary of State is about ready to suspend your license, you can go and ask for a hearing from the Secretary of State's Office."

"And that's separate from this administrative review that we've already talked about."

"That's right. That's right. Administrative... well, it's the result of administrative review decisions and a report being sent to the Secretary of State, but the Administrative Review Act allows for you to appeal from the finding of the administrative review process and go into court."

"Assuming that I didn't want to do that, or I've exhausted my remedies on that side, I can still have review at the Secretary of State's level?"

"Review of the decision as to whether or not your 162  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 license is to be suspended."

"So, what we're going to have then is the Secretary of State exercising review, jurisdiction over the court system."

"No. The Secretary of State issue deals with whether or not your license will be suspended. Your license will be suspended if you have failed to pay ten or more tickets within a certain jurisdiction."

"How many new officers are we going to have to have, hearing officers from the Secretary of State's Office?"

"Secretary of State expects the cost to be about 490,000 dollars. I filed a fiscal note to that effect."

"Yeah, I thank you very much, Representative Cullerton. Madam Speaker, I would request a Roll Call vote."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative McCracken."

"A point of order, Madam Speaker. Amendment #5 is out of order. It was preceded by another Amendment adopted in Committee and does not read as amended. And I'd ask for a ruling from the Chair."

"Thank you. Mr. Parliamentarian. While the Parliamentarian is looking at that, Representative Stephens seeks recognition."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I think all my questions have been answered."

"Thank you. The Parliamentarian rules that the Amendment is in order, that... He says, the Amendment is in order. Is there further discussion? There being none, the Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton, to close."

"I move for the adoption of this technical Amendment."

"The Gentleman moves the adoption of Amendment #5. All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'no'. In the opinion 163  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEЗАТЕ 47th Legislative Day of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment 6, offered May 15, 1987 The Amendment is by Representative McCracken."

"Representative... Representative Cullerton. Representative Cullerton. Representative Slater had requested a Roll Call vote. So, we will have to go back on Amendment 5 and take a Roll Call vote, consistent with the Gentleman's request. request. I didn't intend to bypass that Alright, on Amendment 5, the question is, 'Shall Amendment 5 be adopted?' All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. Representative McCracken. Representative McCracken."

"Verification, please."

"On this question, there are 65 voting 'aye' and 49 voting 'no'. Representative McCracken requests a verification of the Affirmative. Mr. Clerk."

"Poll of the Affirmative. Berrios. Black. Bowman. Braun. Breslin. Bugielski. Capparelli. Christensen. Cullerton. Curran. Currie. Daley. Davis. DeJaegher. DeLeo. Farley. Flinn. Giglio. Giorgi. Granberg. Greiman."

"Representative Brunsvold requests leave to be verified. Leave is granted. Oh, Representative Brunsvold votes 'aye'. Changes his vote from 'no' to 'aye'. Brunsvold 'no' to 'aye'."

"Continuing the Poll of the Affirmative. Hannig. Hartke. Hicks. Homer."

"Excuse me. Mr. Clerk. For what reason the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Kulas, rise?"

"Leave to be verified."

"Gentleman requests leave to be verified. Leave 164  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day is granted. votes 'aye'. The Leverenz... May 15, 1987 The Lady from Cook, Representative Flowers, Gentleman from Cook, Representative

"Leave to be verified."

"...Asks leave to be verified. Leave is granted. Representative Keane requests leave to be verified. Representative Black."

"Thank you. Madam Speaker. Reluctantly change my vote to 'no', please."

"The Gentleman changes his vote from 'aye' to 'no'. Representative Pang... Representative Pangle. Representative Hartke requests leave to be verified. Are there further requests before we proceed with the verification? Continue, Mr. Clerk."

"Huff. Jones. Keane. Krska. Kulas. Laurino. LeFlore. Leverenz. Levin. Martinez. Matijevich. Mautino. McGann. McNamara. McPike. Morrow. Mulcahey. O'Connell. Panayotovich. Phelps. Preston. Rea. Rice. Richmond. Ronan. Saltsman. Satterthwaite. Shaw. Steczo. Stern. Sutker. Terzich. Turner. Van Duyne. White. Williams. Wolf. Anthony Young. Hyvetter Younge and Mr. Speaker."

"Representative McCracken, questions of the Affirmative?"

"Thank you. Representative Krska."

"Representative Krska. Representative Krska. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Is the Gentleman in the chamber, Representative Krska? He appears not to be. Remove him."

"Representative Ronan."

"Representative Ronan. Representative Ronan. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? He appears not to be. Remove him." 165  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

"Representative Farley."

May 15, 1987 "Representative Farley. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Representative Farley. He appears not to be. Remove him."

"Representative Giglio."

"Representative Giglio is in the back of the chamber."

"Representative Curran."

"Representative Curran is in the aisle."

"Representative O'Connell."

"Representative O'Connell. Representative O'Connell. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Appears not to be. Remove him."

"Representative Wolf."

"Representative Wolf. The Gentleman is in the back of the chamber."

"Representative Richmond."

"Representative Bruce Richmond. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? He appears not to be. Remove him."

"Representative Hicks."

"Representative Hicks. The Gentleman is right here at the door."

"Representative Van Duyne."

"Representative Van Duyne. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? He appears not to be. Remove him."

"Representative Laurino."

"Representative Laurino. Laurino. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? He appears not to be. Remove him."

"Representative Panayotovich."

"Representative Sam Panayotovich. Gentleman in the chamber? He appears not to be. him." Is the Remove 166  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

"Representative Daley."

May 15, 1987 "Representative Daley. Representative Daley. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? He appears not to be. Remove him."

"Representative DeLeo."

"Representative DeLeo. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? He appears not to be. Remove him."

"Representative Martinez."

"Representative Martinez. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Appears not to be. Remove him."

"Representative Berrios."

"Representative Berrios. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? He appears not to be. Remove him."

"Representative Dunn."

"Representative Dunn is voted 'no'."

"Representative Stern."

"Representative Stern. Is the Lady in the chamber? She appears not to be. Remove her."

"Representative Davis."

"Representative Davis. The Lady is in the front of the chamber."

"Representative Jones."

"Representative Jones. Is the Lady in the chamber? Representative Jones. The Lady is... Oh, Representative Farley has returned to the chamber. Restore his name to the Roll Call. Continue."

"Representative Saltsman."

"Representative Saltsman. Is the... in the back of the chamber."

"Representative Williams."

"Representative Paul Williams. The Gentleman is in the chamber."

"Representative Hartke." 167  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Speaker Braun: "He was verified earlier."

"Representative Greiman." May 15, 1987

"Right here. And Representative Greiman requests leave to be verified."

"How could I miss him?"

"Representative Turner requests leave to be verified. Leave is granted."

"I don't see him. Where is he?"

"He's right there."

"Oh, alright. Representative Christensen."

"Representative Christensen. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? He appears not to be. Remove him."

"Representative Bowman."

"Representative Bowman. Representative Bowman. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? He appears not to be. Remove him."

"Representative Levin."

"Representative Levin. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? He appears not to be. Remove him."

"Madam Speaker, I called Representative Jones before..."

"Alright."

"Is Representative Jones here?"

"Is the Lady in the chamber? She appears not to be. Remove her. Representative Cullerton."

"No. No. She was never here. She was never here. No."

"Representative Van Duyne has returned to the chamber. Return his vote."

"Representative Bugielski."

"Representative Bugielski. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? He appears not to be. Remove him."

"Representative Morrow." 168  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day

"The Gentleman is in the chamber."

"Representative LeFlore." May 15, 1987

"Representative LeFlore. The Gentleman is in the chamber."

"Representative Huff."

"Representative Huff. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? He appears not to be. Remove him."

"Representative white."

"Representative Jesse White. Representative White. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? He appears not to be. Remove him."

"Representative Mulcahey."

"Representative Mulcahey. The Gentleman is in his chair."

"No more."

"Representative... Representative Cullerton. The Gentleman... Don't yell. Don't yell. It's not necessary. On this question there are 48 voting 'aye", 49 voting 'no". The Amendment fails. Representative Cullerton."

"Take the Bill out of the record, please." Speaker Braun: have... "The Bill will be taken out of the record. We Ladies and Gentlemen, we Gentlemen. Ladies and have a Death Resolution. We have a Death Resolution for William Bill Berry. Mr. Clerk, read the Resolution."

"House Resolution 409, offered by Representative Braun et al. Whereas, the Members of this Body have been deeply saddened with the death of Edwin C. 'Bill' Berry, a nationally renowned civil rights leader; and whereas, A pioneer of the modern era of race relations in Chicago and the nation, Bill Berry was executive director of the Chicago Urban League for 14 years; and whereas, a native of Oberlin, Ohio, Bill Berry was one of children born to John A. and Kittie Berry and he went to Oberlin College on 5 169  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 an academic scholarship and became a star athlete; and whereas, a graduate of Duquesne University in Pittsburgh, with a degree in education. Bill Berry entered the University of Pittsburgh's school of social work and followed this with graduate work at Western Reserve University in Cleveland; and whereas, in 1937, Bill Berry entered the Urban League movement as group work secretary in Pittsburgh, and he was executive secretary of the Portland, Oregon Urban League; and whereas, in 1956, Bill Berry was appointed executive director of the Chicago Urban League where he amassed a national reputation as a civil rights activist, integrationist and educator: and whereas, Bill Berry was a man of vision and compassion who was known to have mastered the art of compromise and negotiation in race relations and he was a pioneer in breaking down barriers of racism through his many endeavors as Chicago Urban League President and his many appointments to civic boards and commissions; and whereas, Bill Berry for many years hosted WGN/TV 9 talk show, People_to_People, where he furthered the cause of cooperation and integration with many guests on this show; and whereas, the City of Chicago and State of Illinois have lost a giant of a man in Bill Berry who raised the consciousness of all individuals whether Black or White; and whereas, Bill Berry received numerous awards including honorary degrees from Northwestern University, Chicago State and Western Michigan University; in addition, he also received the John F. Kennedy Award from the Catholic Interracial Council; and whereas, Bill Berry is survived by his wife, Betsy: one son, Joseph; a daughter, Melanie Fraser: 2 foster sons, Myron Wahls and Charles Carter: one foster daughter, Westina Mathews: and 2 grandchildren; therefore, be it Resolved, by the House of Representatives of the 85th 170  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 General Assembly of the State of Illinois, that we express our sincere sorrow at the loss of Bill Berry; that we join with those individuals who mourn the loss of a close friend; and that to his bereaved family we extend our heartfelt sympathy; and be it further resolved, that a suitable copy of this preamble and resolution be presented to the family of Bill Berry as a formal indication of our mutually shared sense of loss."

"The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook, Representative Currie, on the Death Resolution."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. There is one thing to be militant and there is another thing to deliver, said, Bill Berry. You only negotiate with brickbats when you have bigger brickbats from the other guy. Bill Berry gave real meaning to the term, 'activist' and to the term 'negotiator'. He's responsible for fair housing, for equal employment laws in the State of Illinois. He built the Chicago Urban League into the largest chapter of that civil rights group nation wide. We mourn his passing, and I would ask leave, Madam Speaker, that all Members of the House be added as Cosponsors of this Resolution."

"The Lady asks leave to add all Members of the House as Cosponsor of this Resolution. Leave is granted. Representative LeFlore."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I had an opportunity of meeting Bill Berry back about 12 years ago when he was serving on the Board of the Chicago United. He was a man of dignity. He was a man who has a legend. We should all look upon and try to live by. And I said to he and his family, you have my prayers and the prayers of all the Representatives of this House. Thank you."

"The Lady moves the adoption of House Resolution 171  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 409. All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it. House 409 is adopted by unanimous consent of the House and all Members of the House will be added as Cosponsors thereof. Reserving time, perfunctory time, for the Clerk. Okay. He have some other Resolutions to be adopted. Agreed Resolutions. Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Joint Resolution 52. Resolved, by the Senate of the 58th...85th General Assembly of the State of Illinois, the House of Representatives concurring herein, that when the Senate adjourns on Thursday, May 14, 1987, it stands adjourn until Monday, May 18, 1987 at 12:00 noon. And when the House of Representatives adjourns on Friday, May 15, 1987, it stands adjourns until Monday, May 18, 1987 at 2:00 p.m., adopted by the Senate, May 14, 1987."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Cullerton, for the Adjournment Resolution. Adjournment Motion. Representative Cullerton."

"I would move for the adoption of the Adjournment Resolution which calls for us to return at 2:00 on next Monday."

Speaker Breslin "The Gentleman moves the adoption of the Adjournment Resolution. All in favor say *aye. opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Resolution is adopted. House stands adjourn until the... Allowing perfunctory... Okay. Agreed Resolutions. Representative Matijevich."

"Madam Speaker, on the presumption that all of these are agreed, which I believe they are. I move the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."

"Which include, House Joint Resolution 75, Madigan House Resolution 388, Wojcik; 389, Stange: 393, Richmond: 400, Ronan 402, Terzich: 405, Myron Olson; 406, 172  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEЗАТЕ 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 Black, 407, Black, 408, Steczo."

"Representative Matijevich."

"Yes, the Membership might want to know that one of these... Dave Carey, who we all know, from the Office of Education, one of these is to congratulate his Mother and Father, who are celebrating their 50th Wedding Anniversary. With that I move to adopt the Agreed Resolutions."

"The Gentleman moves the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All in favor say 'aye', opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it. The Resolutions are adopted. Allowing perfunctory time for Senate Bills First Reading, this House stands adjourned until the hour of 2:00 on Monday."

"Senate Bill 27, Kulas, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 35, Parke, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to criminal identification. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 54, Ropp, a Bill for an Act in relation to definition of various food products. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 66, Churchill, a Bill for an Act to amend the Township Organization Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 74, Goforth, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 111, Regan, a Bill for an Act to amend the Hospital Licensing Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 137, McAuliffe, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 144, Hicks, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Export Development Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 147, Robert Olson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Nursing Home Care Reform Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 218, Robert Olson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. First Reading of the Bill. 173  47th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1987 Senate Bill 222, Barnes, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to fire protection districts. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 224, Hicks, a Bill for an Act to amend the Land Trust Disclosure Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 248, Hicks, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Farm Development Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 259, McAuliffe, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 260, Barnes and McAuliffe, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 263, Cullerton, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 301, William Peterson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Low Level Radioactive Waste Management Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 308, Hicks, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 312, Hicks, a Bill for an Act relating to an interstate compact on agricultural grain marketing. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill Introductions. Senate Bill 65, Cullerton, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 67, LeFlore, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 68, LeFlore, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 69, LeFlore, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 77, Richmond, a Bill for an Act in relation to towing and removal of nuisance vehicles. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 114, Countryman, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the Office of Public Defender. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 116, Slater, a Bill for an Act to revise a law in relation to 174  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 47th Legislative Day May 15, 1987 criminal jurisprudence. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 140, Kirkland, a Bill for an Act to enlarge the corporate limits of the Metropolitan Sanitary District of Greater Chicago. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 152, Bugielski, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for police and firefighters available of various branches of public library. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 154, Capparelli, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. First Reading of the bill. Senate Bill 155, Bugielski, a Bill for an Act to amend the Carnival Amusement Ride Safety Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 158, Bugielski, a Bill for an Act to amend the Alcoholism Treatment Licensing Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 162, Capparelli, a Bill for an Act to establish the Military and Naval Code for the State of Illinois. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 165, Slater, a Bill for an Act to amend the Probate Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 226, Keane, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 353, Parke, a Bill for an Act to amend the Retailers' Occupation Tax Act. First Reading of the Bill. No further business, the House now stands adjourned." 175  02/04/88 15:18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 15, 1987 PAGE 1 HB-0062 THIRD READING PAGE 4 HB-0072 THIRD READING PAGE 4 HB-0080 SECOND READING PAGE 93 HB-0080 SECOND READING PAGE 155 HB-0080 JUT OF RECORD PAGE 98 HB-0080 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 169 HB-0100 SECOND READING PAGE 33 HB-0142 THIRD READING PAGE 4 HB-0155 THIRD READING PAGE 4 HB-0164 THIRD READING PAGE 4 HB-0181 THIRD READING PAGE 4 HB-0188 THIRD READING PAGE 4 HB-0232 THIRD READING PAGE 4 HB-0233 THIRD READING PAGE 68 HB-0249 THIRD READING PAGE 4 HB-0252 THIRD READING PAGE 4 HB-0262 THIRD READING PAGE 4 HB-0266 RECALLED PAGE 20 HB-0266 THIRD READING PAGE 4 HB-0269 THIRD READING PAGE 4 H3-0272 THIRD READING PAGE 4 HB-0328 THIRD READING PAGE 4 HB-0337 SECOND READING PAGE 27 H3-0345 THIRD READING PAGE 5 HB-0380 THIRD READING PAGE 5 HB-0394 THIRD READING PAGE 5 HB-0406 THIRD READING PAGE 5 H3-0410 THIRD READING PAGE 5 HB-0422 RECALLED PAGE 20 HB-0422 THIRD READING PAGE 5 HB-0425 THIRD READING PAGE 5 H3-0454 THIRD READING PAGE 5 HB-0457 THIRD READING PAGE 5 HB-0461 THIRD READING PAGE 5 HB-0464 THIRD READING PAGE 5 HB-0472 RECALLED PAGE 26 HB-0472 RECALLED PAGE 21 HB-0472 THIRD READING PAGE 5 H3-0472 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 22 HB-0474 THIRD READING PAGE 5 HB-0479 THIRD READING PAGE 5 HB-0497 SECOND READING PAGE 99 HB-0523 THIRD READING PAGE 5 HB-0532 THIRD READING PAGE 73 HB-0542 THIRD READING PAGE 5 HB-0549 THIRD READING PAGE 5 H8-0560 RECALLED PAGE 19 HB-0560 THIRD READING PAGE 5 HB-0566 SECOND READING PAGE 23 HB-0593 THIRD READING PAGE 6 HB-0613 THIRD READING PAGE 6 HB-0627 SECOND READING PAGE 106 HB-0643 THIRD READING PAGE 6 HB-0644 THIRD READING PAGE 6  02/04/88 15:18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 15, 1987 PAGE 2 HB-0801 THIRD READING PAGE 6 HB-0805 SECOND READING PAGE 121 HB-0813 THIRD READING PAGE 6 H8-0814 SECOND READING PAGE 29 HB-0323 THIRD READING PAGE 6 HB-0824 THIRD READING PAGE 6 HB-0840 THIRD READING PAGE 6 H3-0842 SECOND READING PAGE 29 HB-0848 THIRD READING PAGE 17 H3-0851 SECOND READING PAGE 123 HB-0863 THIRD READING PAGE 6 HB-0887 THIRD READING PAGE 17 HB-0899 SECOND READING PAGE 130 HB-0900 SECOND READING PAGE 134 HB-0919 THIRD READING PAGE 17 HB-0930 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-0948 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-0976 MOTION PAGE 48 H3-0978 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-0978 THIRD READING PAGE 17 HB-0980 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-1014 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-1018 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-1031 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-1031 THIRD READING PAGE 17 HB-1032 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-1034 SECOND READING PAGE 135 HB-1092 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HE-1109 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-1110 THIRD READING PAGE 7 H3-1110 TABLED PAGE 28 HB-1116 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-1118 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-1120 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-1123 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-1133 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-1185 THIRD READING PAGE 8 HB-1188 THIRD READING PAGE 8 HB-1194 THIRD READING PAGE 8 HB-1194 THIRD READING PAGE 17 HB-1216 THIRD READING PAGE 8 HB-1225 SECOND READING PAGE 29 HB-1237 THIRD READING PAGE 8 HB-1238 THIRD READING PAGE 8 HB-1244 THIRD READING PAGE 8 HB-1256 THIRD READING PAGE 8 HB-1259 THIRD READING PAGE 8 HB-1260 SECOND READING PAGE 30 HB-1265 THIRD READING PAGE 8 H3-1268 SECOND READING PAGE 30 HB-1274 THIRD READING PAGE 8 HB-1288 THIRD READING PAGE 8 HB-1290 SECOND READING PAGE 145 HB-1297 THIRD READING PAGE 8 HB-1310 SECOND READING PAGE 43 H3-1317 THIRD READING PAGE 8 HB-1317 THIRD READING PAGE 17 HB-1319 THIRD READING PAGE 8 HB-1342 THIRD READING PAGE 8 HB-1344 THIRD READING PAGE 8 HB-1349 THIRD READING PAGE 8 HB-1351 THIRD READING PAGE 9 H3-1359 SECOND READING PAGE 146 HB-1359 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 146 HB-1373 THIRD READING PAGE 9  02/04/88 15:18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 35TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 15, 1987 PAGE 3 HB-1376 THIRD READING PAGE 9 HB-1384 SECOND READING PAGE 126 HB-1386 THIRD READING PAGE 9 HB-1403 SECOND READING PAGE 147 HB-1415 SECOND READING PAGE 32 HB-1419 THIRD READING PAGE 9 HB-1421 THIRD READING PAGE 9 HB-1438 THIRD READING PAGE 9 HB-1462 THIRD READING PAGE 9 HB-1467 SECOND READING PAGE 46 HB-1471 THIRD READING PAGE 9 HB-1485 THIRD READING PAGE 17 HB-1494 THIRD READING PAGE 9 HB-1497 THIRD READING PAGE 9 HB-1500 THIRD READING PAGE 9 HB-1504 THIRD READING PAGE 9 HB-1509 RECALLED PAGE 23 HB-1509 THIRD READING PAGE 9 HB-1509 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 25 HB-1540 THIRD READING PAGE 9 HB-1548 THIRD READING PAGE 9 HB-1560 THIRD READING PAGE 10 HB-1563 THIRD READING PAGE 10 HB-1578 THIRD READING PAGE 10 HB-1581 THIRD READING PAGE 10 HB-1584 THIRD READING PAGE 10 HB-1602 THIRD READING PAGE 10 HB-1603 THIRD READING PAGE 10 HB-1605 THIRD READING PAGE 10 HB-1616 THIRD READING PAGE 10 HB-1623 SECOND READING PAGE 48 HB-1625 THIRD READING PAGE 10 HB-1628 THIRD READING PAGE 10 HB-1652 THIRD READING PAGE 10 HB-1665 SECOND READING PAGE 36 HB-1665 MOTION PAGE 38 HB-1667 THIRD READING PAGE 10 HB-1680 THIRD READING PAGE 10 HB-1681 THIRD READING PAGE 10 HB-1693 THIRD READING PAGE 10 HB-1701 THIRD READING PAGE 10 HB-1727 THIRD READING PAGE 10 HB-1736 THIRD READING PAGE 11 HB-1742 THIRD READING PAGE 11 HB-1753 THIRD READING PAGE 11 HB-1758 THIRD READING PAGE 11 HB-1760 THIRD READING PAGE 11 HB-1767 THIRD READING PAGE 11 HB-1771 THIRD READING PAGE 11 HB-1798 THIRD READING PAGE 11 HB-1806 SECOND READING PAGE 126 HB-1806 SECOND READING PAGE 129 HB-1811 THIRD READING PAGE 73 HB-1812 SECOND READING PAGE 51 HB-1819 SECOND READING PAGE 148 HB-1829 SECOND READING PAGE 148 HB-1831 SECOND READING PAGE 127 HB-1832 THIRD READING PAGE 11 HB-1832 THIRD READING PAGE 17 HB-1836 THIRD READING PAGE 11 HB-1866 THIRD READING PAGE 11 HB-1869 THIRD READING PAGE 17 HB-1882 SECOND READING PAGE 152 HB-1898 SECOND READING PAGE 153 HB-1899 SECOND READING PAGE 154  02/04/88 15:18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 15, 1987 PAGE 4 HB-1901 THIRD READING PAGE 11 HB-1909 THIRD READING PAGE 11 HB-1918 THIRD READING PAGE 17 H3-1922 THIRD READING PAGE 11 HB-1924 THIRD READING PAGE 11 HB-1940 THIRD READING PAGE 11 HB-1953 THIRD READING PAGE 11 HB-1955 SECOND READING PAGE 53 HB-1956 THIRD READING PAGE 17 HB-1959 THIRD READING PAGE 12 HB-1998 THIRD READING PAGE 12 HB-2011 THIRD READING PAGE 12 HB-2027 THIRD READING PAGE 18 HB-2031 THIRD READING PAGE 12 HB-2032 THIRD READING PAGE 12 HB-2033 THIRD READING PAGE 12 HB-2043 SECOND READING PAGE 55 HB-2043 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 56 HB-2046 THIRD READING PAGE 12 HB-2052 THIRD READING PAGE 12 HB-2060 THIRD READING PAGE 12 HB-2062 THIRD READING PAGE 12 HB-2034 THIRD READING PAGE 12 HB-2100 THIRD READING PAGE 12 HB-2123 THIRD READING PAGE 12 HB-2146 THIRD READING PAGE 12 HB-2151 THIRD READING PAGE 12 HB-2151 THIRD READING PAGE 18 HB-2166 THIRD READING PAGE 12 HB-2180 THIRD READING PAGE 12 HB-2201 THIRD READING PAGE 12 HB-2202 THIRD READING PAGE 13 HB-2208 THIRD READING PAGE 13 HB-2209 THIRD READING PAGE 13 HB-2211 THIRD READING PAGE 13 HB-2218 THIRD READING PAGE 13 HB-2226 THIRD READING PAGE 13 HB-2230 THIRD READING PAGE 13 HB-2236 THIRD READING PAGE 13 HB-2243 THIRD READING PAGE 13 H3-2248 THIRD READING PAGE 13 HB-2249 THIRD READING PAGE 13 HB-2256 THIRD READING PAGE 18 HB-2258 THIRD READING PAGE 13 HB-2258 THIRD READING PAGE 18 HB-2274 SECOND READING PAGE 56 HB-2276 SECOND READING PAGE 57 HB-2304 RECALLED PAGE 22 HB-2304 THIRD READING PAGE 13 HB-2319 THIRD READING PAGE 13 HB-2323 THIRD READING PAGE 13 HB-2326 THIRD READING PAGE 13 HB-2330 THIRD READING PAGE 13 HB-2331 SECOND READING PAGE 57 H3-2332 THIRD READING PAGE 14 HB-2340 THIRD READING PAGE 14 HB-2341 THIRD READING PAGE 14 HB-2342 THIRD READING PAGE 14 HB-2353 THIRD READING PAGE 14 HB-2354 THIRD READING PAGE 14 HB-2378 SECOND READING PAGE 130 HB-2379 THIRD READING PAGE 14 HB-2380 THIRD READING PAGE 14 H3-2403 SECOND READING PAGE 57 HB-2404 SECOND READING PAGE 59  02/04/88 15:18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 15, 1987 PAGE 5 HB-2410 SECOND READING PAGE 65 HB-2414 THIRD READING PAGE 14 HB-2428 THIRD READING PAGE 14 HB-2436 THIRD READING PAGE 14 HB-2446 THIRD READING PAGE 14 HB-2454 THIRD READING PAGE 14 HB-2470 THIRD READING PAGE 18 HB-2476 THIRD READING PAGE 14 HB-2477 THIRD READING PAGE 14 HB-2511 THIRD READING PAGE 14 HB-2530 THIRD READING PAGE 14 HB-2533 THIRD READING PAGE 14 HB-2537 THIRD READING PAGE 15 H3-2574 THIRD READING PAGE 15 HB-2576 THIRD READING PAGE 15 HB-2577 THIRD READING PAGE 15 HB-2590 THIRD READING PAGE 15 HB-2594 SECOND READING PAGE 66 HB-2619 THIRD READING PAGE 15 HB-2624 SECOND READING PAGE 127 HB-2625 RECALLED PAGE 49 HB-2625 THIRD READING PAGE 15 HB-2643 THIRD READING PAGE 15 HB-2645 THIRD READING PAGE 15 HB-2655 THIRD READING PAGE 15 HB-2670 THIRD READING PAGE 18 HB-2680 THIRD READING PAGE 15 HB-2682 SECOND READING PAGE 66 HB-2682 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 68 HB-2699 THIRD READING PAGE 15 HB-2717 THIRD READING PAGE 15 HB-2718 THIRD READING PAGE 15 HB-2727 THIRD READING PAGE 15 HB-2729 THIRD READING PAGE 15 HB-2745 THIRD READING PAGE 15 HB-2749 THIRD READING PAGE 15 HB-2758 THIRD READING PAGE 15 HB-2766 THIRD READING PAGE 16 HB-2783 THIRD READING PAGE 16 H3-2785 THIRD READING PAGE 16 HB-2788 THIRD READING PAGE 16 H8-2789 THIRD READING PAGE 16 HB-2790 THIRD READING PAGE 16 HB-2791 SECOND READING PAGE 68 HB-2795 THIRD READING PAGE 16 HB-2800 THIRD READING PAGE 76 HB-2806 THIRD READING PAGE 16 HB-2807 THIRD READING PAGE 16 HB-2808 THIRD READING PAGE 16 HB-2808 THIRD READING PAGE 18 HB-2810 SECOND READING PAGE 128 HB-2813 RECALLED PAGE 83 HB-2813 THIRD READING PAGE 84 HB-2821 SECOND READING PAGE 68 HB-2823 THIRD READING PAGE 16 HB-2834 THIRD READING PAGE 16 HB-2834 THIRD READING PAGE 18 HB-2837 SECOND READING PAGE 130 HB-2838 THIRD READING PAGE 16 HB-2842 THIRD READING PAGE 85 HB-2843 THIRD READING PAGE 87 HB-2844 THIRD READING PAGE 88 HB-2845 THIRD READING PAGE 89 HB-2845 THIRD READING PAGE 105 HB-2845 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 93  02/04/88 15:18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 15, 1987 PAGE 6 HB-2849 THIRD READING PAGE 16 HB-2852 THIRD READING PAGE 16 HB-2865 THIRD READING PAGE 16 HB-2867 THIRD READING PAGE 16 HB-2868 THIRD READING PAGE 17 HB-2871 THIRD READING PAGE 17 SB-0027 FIRST READING PAGE 173 SB-0035 FIRST READING PAGE 173 SB-0054 FIRST READING PAGE 173 SB-0065 FIRST READING PAGE 174 SB-0066 FIRST READING PAGE 173 SB-0067 FIRST READING PAGE 174 SB-0068 FIRST READING PAGE 174 SB-0069 FIRST READING PAGE 174 SB-0074 FIRST READING PAGE 173 SB-0077 FIRST READING PAGE 174 SB-0111 FIRST READING PAGE 173 SB-0114 FIRST READING PAGE 174 SB-0116 FIRST READING PAGE 174 SB-0137 FIRST READING PAGE 173 SB-0140 FIRST READING PAGE 175 SB-0144 FIRST READING PAGE 173 SB-0147 FIRST READING PAGE 173 SB-0152 FIRST READING PAGE 175 SB-0154 FIRST READING PAGE 175 SB-0155 FIRST READING PAGE 175 SB-0158 FIRST READING PAGE 175 SB-0162 FIRST READING PAGE 175 SB-0165 FIRST READING PAGE 175 SB-0218 FIRST READING PAGE 173 SB-0222 FIRST READING PAGE 174 S3-0224 FIRST READING PAGE 174 SB-0226 FIRST READING PAGE 175 SB-0248 FIRST READING PAGE 174 SB-0259 FIRST READING PAGE 174 SB-0260 FIRST READING PAGE 174 SB-0263 FIRST READING PAGE 174 SB-0301 FIRST READING PAGE 174 SB-0308 FIRST READING PAGE 174 SB-0312 FIRST READING PAGE 174 SB-0353 FIRST READING PAGE 175 HR-0404 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 139 HR-0409 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 169 SJR-0052 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 172 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER - REPRESENTATIVE GREIMAN PAGE 1 PRAYER - RABBI MARKS PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 2 ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 2 PERFUNCTORY SESSION PAGE 4 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 172 REGULAR SESSION PAGE 18 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 173 PERFUNCTORY ADJOURNMENT PAGE 173 PAGE 175