Illinois House Floor Debate — June 12, 1990

"The House will come to order. The Chaplain for today is Reverend Foster Brock of the First Church of God in Sullivan, Illinois. Reverend Brock is the guest of Representative Noland. The guests in the balcony may wish to rise and join us for the invocation."

"Let us pray. Our Father, which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Truly, Father, this is our prayer, that Your will will be done upon earth as it is in heaven. We thank You, Lord, for the opportunity to come before You. We thank You Father for this august Assembly. We pray that Your blessings will be upon them today and the ministry of Christ would be inside them and will come through them. We pray for wisdom for them today Father. We pray for the unction and the power of the Holy Spirit to touch their lives as they make many decisions about many things that will touch the lives of people all across this great state of ours. We pray Father that You will give to them the wisdom to be able to make decisions that will be decisions that they feel is the will of God. And then Father, I pray for each person today throughout our state that as decisions are made, we may get behind our Representatives and we may gather and see the will of God be performed. We pray Father, that the power of Christ would rest upon our lives in the continuation of this day and we give Thee praise, glory and honor in Jesus' Name. Amen."

"We'll be led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Representative Ropp."

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice 1  127th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 12, 1990 for all."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Matijevich."

Representative Matijevich: "Mr. Speaker, let the record reflect the excused absence of Representative Farley. He's still recuperating. Oh, he's here. Thank God. We said he was going to be here this week and he is here. Welcome back to Bruce Farley. Also welcome back, there's some Members from the 74th General Assembly. They had a reunion so there's a lot of my friends there. Welcome them back too."

"No excused absences from the Democratic side. Representative Piel."

"No excuse absences Mr. Speaker."

"Thank you. Take the Roll, Mr. Clerk. 118 Members answering the Roll Call. A quorum is present. House Bill Second Reading. Special Call. Public Utilities. Senate Bill 2091. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 2091, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 offered by Representative Bowman."

"Representative... Mr. Clerk, is the Bill...is the Amendment been distributed?"

"No, the Amendment has not been distributed."

"Representative Hoffman."

"The Amendment hasn't been distributed and I move to table it."

"The Amendment has not been distributed. The Gentleman moves to table Amendment #1. All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is tabled. Further Amendments?" 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day

June 12, 1990 "Floor Amendment #2 offered by Representative Matijevich."

"Has the Amendment been printed or distributed?"

"No, the Amendment has not been printed or distributed."

"Representative Hoffman moves to table Amendment #2. All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is tabled. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3 offered by Representative Matijevich."

"Is the Amendment printed or distributed?"

"The Amendment has not been printed or distributed."

"Representative Hoffman moves to table Amendment #3. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment's tabled. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4 offered by Representative Levin."

"Has the Amendment been printed or distributed?"

"The Amendment has not been printed or distributed."

"Representative Hoffman. Representative Hoffman moves to table Amendment #4, and on that Representative Levin,"

"Yes. Mr. Speaker, this is the very first item on the very first day that we're on the floor and I would ask the Sponsor in order to accommodate us I think people have been moving as quickly as they can. If he could just take this out of the record until this could be, until it could be printed. We've had a series of Amendments that were all timely filed to this Bill and whether you agree with the Amendments or not, you know, as an accommodation we'd 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 appreciate the opportunity to be able to present the Amendments."

"Representative Hoffman persists with his Motion. The Motion is to table Amendment #4. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's tabled. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. There is a softball, Senate House softball game tonight. It's the intent of the Chair to adjourn at approximately 5:00 p.m. We will be in Session on Friday. Special Order of Call. Special Order of Business, Banking Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1051, Representative Flinn. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1051, a Bill for an Act to create the Savings Bank Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed? Representative Cullerton."

"I just want to know if you care? I mean I don't care. It's not printed, but I don't care."

"It was adopted in Committee. Mr. Clerk, was this adopted in Committee?"

"Amendment #1 was adopted in Financial Institutions Committee."

"Representative Cullerton, it was adopted in Committee."

"Well, it has to be printed, I think, before you can vote on it. I think, I'm not, you know. We can...even if it was adopted in Committee it has to be printed before you can vote on it. I think. Now we can waive that Rule."

"Representative Cullerton, is your Motion to table this Amendment? Because if there's no Motion on this Amendment, it's already been adopted in Committee."

"My Parliamentarian, I will match my Parliamentarian 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 against your Parliamentarian any day. And we're told that if you haven't printed the Amendment it's hard to read it, first of all, to know whether or not we even want to call this Bill. Now, far be it from me to...we have one copy. It's only eight pages long and it rewrites the Banking Act. But other than that, let's go with it."

"Representative Cullerton, we're going to check the Rules. Representative Cullerton, there's nothing in the House Rules that say Committee Amendments must be printed. Prior to voting on Second Reading. Floor Amendments must be printed and distributed on Second Reading, but not Committee Amendments. Mr. Cullerton."

"You're probably right. Amendment 36(c), Rule 36(c) says, no Amendments may be adopted unless it's been reproduced and is on the Member's desk. Now even though it says 'no Amendment' they must be referring to Floor Amendments. So, Floor Amendments can't be adopted unless they're reproduced and on your desk, but Committee Amendments..."

"But, the Amendment's already been adopted in Committee. So, I don't think that Rule applies."

"By moving it to Third Reading are we in affect adopting the Amendment?"

"Yes."

"And if we are, then why wouldn't Rule 36(c) apply?"

"The Amendment's already been adopted in Committee."

"Yes, I'm just wondering if by moving it to Third we're sort of ratifying that on the House Floor and therefore in effect adopting it."

"The Chair doesn't think so. The Chair thinks you only ratify it on Third Reading."

"Well let me ask you this. Do the Bills have to be 5  127th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 12, 1990 printed? Before we vote on them in the Third Reading?"

"Yes."

"Why?"

"Are there any Motions, Mr. Clerk?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Representative Bowman."

"Well, I do think this is a little unfair since I had the Amendment pending to another Bill and the Bill was just moved to Third Reading because it wasn't printed and distributed. I think in the interest of fairness maybe this shouldn't be moved until it's distributed."

"Well, there's nothing in our rules that speak to Committee Amendments being printed because the Floor is not voting on the Committee Amendments until Third Reading."

"I understand, but we would like to know what the Amendments say in case we want to offer additional Amendments. I mean, that's the whole purpose of the printing regulation."

"Representative Flinn."

"I won't give anybody time to screw around with it. Well I think I'm going to have a technical Bill, but it's also not printed and distributed and I would like to move it to Third and maybe move it back to do that. And that time we can address the problems the other people have with it."

"Alright. There are no further Amendments. Are there any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 2083, Representative Hicks. Out of the record. Representative Piel did you wish to handle this Bill? Out of the record? Alright. Out of the record...Second Reading, Education, Senate Bill 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 1556, Representative Hoffman. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1556, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to Education. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1766, Representative Kirkland. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1842, Representative Curran. Mr. Curran? Out of the record. Senate Bill 2058, Representative Brunsvold. 2058. Education. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill...Senate Bill 2058, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading, Senate Bill 2312, Representative Satterthwaite. Representative Satterthwaite. Representative Cats? Harold Cats? Harold Cats, would you move so we can see Representative Satterthwaite. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 2312, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Community College Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Environment, Second Reading. Here is House, appears Senate Bill 1773, Representative Ropp. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1773, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relation to the Department of Energy and Natural Resources. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee." 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day

"Any Motions?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments." June 12, 1990

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1838, Representative Brunsvold. Brunsvold. Representative Brunsvold."

"Will the House come to Order? Ladies and Gentlemen. Could the House come to Order please? We have a very special presentation today. And I'm going to ask all staff to retire to the rear of the chamber. I'm going to ask all Members to please be in their chairs. Mr. Terzich, will you take your seat? Representative Breslin, Mr. Bowman would you take your seat? Mr. Bowman, would you take your seat, Sir? Mr. Dunn. Mr. Greiman, could you leave the floor? All staff retire to the rear of the chamber, and the Doorkeeper, Mr. Doorkeeper do you have an announcement? You don't. I see. Where's the first gliche to this performance? Where's Representative Giorgi? Yea. Okay. Alright, now we have our marching orders so if everyone could please give us their attention. We're very pleased today to have with us people who served in the General Assembly of 1964. The election of 1964 in the years 1965 and 1966. That was the at-large bedsheet ballot. That resulted from the inability of the Legislature to reapportion itself. Which didn't happen last time. So at this time we would ask all of those fine people to come forward and march down the center aisle. Let's give them a nice round of applause. At this time I'd like to recognize Representative B.B. Wolfe."

"Thank you Mr. Speaker. I'd make a point of order but I know you really don't have the time to get together with your Parliamentarian and it would delay the proceedings this afternoon. Briefly...briefly, the 74th General 8  127th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 12, 1990 Assembly, a very historic event in the State of Illinois first time we had one district, that was the State of Illinois, 177 Members to be elected, at large, and they were tagged by news media and the press and so forth as the blue ribbon Legislators came from all walks of life. We had five, four Leaders and a Clerk. I note today we have 118 Members of the House we have 22 Leaders and Clerk, so times have really changed. The Cochairs of this Reunion Committee are the beloved Zeke Giorgi who is the only Member left of that class, and the system majority leader, give him a hand. The rumors of the death of the youngest Member of that House, Dan O'Neill, are greatly exaggerated. He was at the reunion last night and he's well and happy. Tom, Tommy Hanahan was the next youngest Member of that House. He is Cochair of the Reunion Committee, a Legislator who is always heard, and always remembered, Tom Hanahan, Cochair. There are only 90 surviving Members of that House of 177 Members. Most of them, thank God, met with us last evening and we enjoyed a reunion, which, we hope, will establish a precedent and tradition for every General Session after that to meet on the 25th year and have a reunion of the House. Let me tell you something Ladies and Gentlemen, the people of the State of Illinois do not know the work that goes on, not only on the House Floor, in Committee, in commission meetings, but the input work that staff does to feed us the facts and so forth, to make decent laws and this they've got to know, that these are the hard working Members that really do the laws of the State of Illinois. And they should be respected. And they will be respected, believe me. Without further adieu, also the issues of that day we were...some of us were called the Don Quixotes of the House, with the impossible dreams. Lower the voting age to 18, reapportionment, governmental 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 ethics, divorce reform, abortion reform, gun control. I can go down the whole list that originated here a quarter of a century ago and we're still talking about it and we're still discussing it. One word about Mike Madigan that I can, he came to the House. I was an old man at the time, I'm a little older than Mike, but God love ya. Keep doing what you're doing, you're doing a great job. And now we're gonna introduce the Members of that great General Assembly, historical, and we'll start with Tommy introducing the Hanahan: first one." "Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, how proud we are, those of us who served in 1965 for $6,000 a year, with no staff, no offices, and at that time the great issue was pay raises and I can say to you Members of the House that you not only earn every cent you now presently earn, you deserve great pay raises because if you don't think of yourself you never will. With us are two of our Leaders that served in the Leadership of the House of Representatives in the 74th General Assembly. And I'd like to call to the podium Clyde Choate our Majority Leader at that time. Clyde Choate. Also Paul Elward to say a few words, our Majority Whip. Our great Speaker at that time was Jack 'Tewwy', is deceased. And Al Hackmeister, our Republican Leader, are not with us John Parkhurst had an appointment today and could not make it and George Burditt who assisted John Parkhurst is not with us today. They were here last night but with no further to do, Clyde Choate our Majority Leader in the 74th."

"Thank you, Tom. Mr. Speaker, and Members of the General Assembly. Boy, this does bring back a few memories to mind. You know there are still Members in the House, Paul, that I served with and that you served with. The 65 Session, as we all know, was a historical event. And as I 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 mentioned at the reception and dinner last night, the late and great Mayor, Richard J. Daley of the City of Chicago, I can remember SO vividly his remarks when he and John 'Tewwy' and I sat down to formulate a campaign as far as the Democratic Members were concerned. He said to John 'Tewwy' and myself, of the utmost importance in this election is the election of Democratic Members to the House of Representatives, whatever kind of a ballot it is. Because Government begins and sometimes ends in the Legislative Branch of Government. And I've always remembered Mayor Daley's remarks and I'm always SO thoughtful and thankful of his input and his hard work. As far as that legislative election was concerned. Oh, we had some brilliant Legislators. Who can ever forget the famous or infamous remark of one of our Members of that class when the debate of equal rights was on? That statement of something like this; 'those brainless braless broads'. Now I won't tell you who could, who can of that class, or who served with those Members can forget the Majority Whip, Paul Elward, taking a note of every proceedings in this House, in Committee and sometimes I think maybe after hours. Somebody told me one time the manufacturing of legal pads was about to take bankruptcy until Elward started making notes. Somebody else told me that he was going to write a book and the reason that he hasn't is they elevated him to a judgeship to preclude him from writing a book because all of the judges would get mad about not getting pay raises and pension increases if he wrote the book. I'm happy to be here Mike. You and your Leadership team and your Members and all the Members of this House, I'm proud of. You're doing such a magnificent job, thank you very much."

"Judge Paul Elward, the Majority Whip of the 74th 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day General Assembly."

"Speaker Madigan, Members of the House. June 12, 1990 Last night it was quite clear to us after 25 years that we were together not separated by any aisle not divided by any partisan considerations. And I wish the same for you in the years to come. That you'll realize no matter how hard you fight here with each other and against each other over particular matters, that you will remain always citizens of Illinois and Representatives of your district, that you'll come to cherish the comradeship and friendship that develop here. Some of you may not be aware of a particular coincidence which, I'm sure, the staff can tell us what the mathematical odds are the last Democratic Speaker of the Illinois House and the present Democratic Speaker and your humble servant all share the same birthday, April 19th. Unfortunately, it is only a state holiday in Massachusetts but we have high hopes that before the Session is much farther along. Thank you very much, it's an honor and a pleasure to be here today."

"The Honorable Nick Zagone, Member Nick, please come forward. The Honorable John Houlihan. Johnny, still serving as Assistant Treasurer...still serving the State of Illinois. The Honorable Bill Horsley, nice hand, he's a local resident. The Honorable Toby Barry, Justice of the Appellate Court, one of our Floor Leaders."

"Sheriff from Saline County, H.B. Tanner. A Member that didn't age one bit for 25 years, Allen Johnson with General Black."

"The Honorable Phil Goldstick, Cook County, Illinois seatmate. The Honorable Rich Schraeder from Peoria, Illinois. Fred. Good to see you. The Honorable Dan P. Pierce, Mayor of Highland Park. Many of these people, many of our colleagues are still serving the public in various 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 offices, some of them, it comes to my mind of that Session, that beginning Session in 65, Harold Washington, Mayor of Chicago, Abner Mikva, Congressman Justice U.S. Court of Appeals. Adlai Stevenson the III, State Treasurer, U.S. Senator Tom Railsback, Congress, Toby Barry, you just met Justice of the Third Appellate. Now we're going to introduce Tony Scariano, of the Costa Nostra, currently sitting as an Appelate Justice in Cook County. The Honorable Don Moore, judge of the Circuit Court. Don, great to see you."

"A man who was elected when he was 21 I believe, Chester Wiktorski."

"Chester, I didn't recognize you last night. You were my running mate for three terms. Why didn't you say hello? I didn't treat you that bad. A man who has been always known as a Gentleman of the House, the Honorable Paul Randolph from Chicago. Another Gentleman in the House that had fond memories of serving here, the Honorable Jim Kirie, from Lighten Township. Another Gentleman we had nothing but Gentlemen and Ladies in the House in the 74th General Assembly, and to epitomize it was another one, John Henry Kleine from Lake County."

"Tommy, we could count the Ladies on one hand, in fact we had one john, the men's john in that corner and the Ladies had to ship for themselves. Times have changed. Ladies of the House today, thank God you're here to give a little balance to our Assembly. I only say it because I was Floor Leader of ERA for the women in those days. Ha Ha. Jack Cassidy, whose father was Attorney General. Sure I remember, I worked for him. Great. Joe Fennessey, the Honorable Joe Fennessey."

"A great Leader on the Republican side of the House, a man with a conscience that never failed to say what he had 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 on his heart and his mind, Honorable Gene Schlickman. One of our colleagues who came a long way who has now transferred his residence to the State of Florida, Lee Rayson, from Tinley Park. And one of two brothers who had an uncle that ran the Senate, we talk about nepotism in the Democratic Party, but we had two brothers that served in the House during that term and an uncle in the Senate, Art Bidwell, a great Leader. But with us today is Dick Walsh from River Forest."

"The Honorable Robert Mann, Chicago. Long time Member of the House, recently retired from the House. The Honorable Jack Merlo, who's currently still working in, for the public service." ahan: "The Gentleman from the western suburbs of Cook County, Ted Clarke. Great Leader. Jimmy Von Boeckman, from Pekin, Illinois. Jim. And a Gentleman that I had a pleasure to room with in my first term out at the Ramada Inn on the south end of Springfield when it didn't even have shades on its windows. Allen Dixon and Joe McMann and Bill Hartnett from Lake County. Bill. The Honorable Francis X. Mahoney. Commonly known as FX Sir Frank, currently a Judge of the Circuit Court from Freeport, Illinois. Judge, good to see you. The Honorable Harold Katz, almost became Speaker of the House. Almost. On a very hot, we had a deadlock that year. We had 100 ballots and couldn't elect a Speaker. Larry DiPrima, the Honorable Larry DiPrima, still active, Veterans Affairs. Here he is."

"We, we're gonna hold for Deacon because we have a Resolution and Deacon will be the last one to be introduced. But prior to his introduction in the Resolution considered changes that we have witnessed, we were born before television, before penicillin, before polio shots, frozen food, xerox, plastic, contact lenses, 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 frisbees and the pill. We were before radar, credit cards, splitting of the atom, laser beams and ballpoint pens. Before pantyhose, dishwashers, clothes dryers, electric blankets, air conditioners, drip dry clothing and before man walked on the moon. We got married first and then lived together, how quaint can we be? In our time clothes were for closets...were for clothes, not for coming out of. Bunnies were small rabbits and rabbits were not Volkswagens, designer jeans were scheming girls named Jean and having a meaningful relationship meant getting along well with our cousins. We thought fast food was what you ate during Lent. And outer space was the back of a Rivera theatre or the balcony of the Marlboro theatre. We were before house husbands, gay rights, computer dating, duel careers and commuter marriages. We were before day care centers, group therapy and nursing homes. We never heard of FM radio, tape decks, electric typewriters, artificial hearts, word processors, yogurt and guys wearing earrings. For us time-sharing meant togetherness, computers or condominiums. A chip meant a piece of wood. Hardware meant hardware and software wasn't even a word. In 1940, made in Japan, meant junk. And the term making out referred to how you did on your exams. Pizzas, McDonald's and instant coffee was not invented. We hit the scene when there were five and ten cent stores, where you bought things for five and ten cents. Ice cream cones sold for a nickel or a dime. For one nickel you could ride a street car, make a phone call, buy a Pepsi, or enough stamps to mail one letter and two post cards. You could buy a new Chevy Coupe for about 1000 dollars, but who could afford one? A pip too, because gas was probably around 20 cents a gallon. In our day cigarette smoking was fashionable, grass was mowed, Coke was a cold drink and pot was 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 12, 1990 127th Legislative Day something you cooked in. Rock music was a grandma's lullaby and aids were helpers in the principal's office. We were certainly not before the differences between the sexes were discovered. But we were surely before the sex change. We made do with what we had. We were the last generation that was so dumb to think you needed a husband or a wife to have a baby. No wonder we are so confused. And there is such a generation gap. Ladies and gentlemen, in the year 2005 I hope all of you enjoy the comradery, the friendship that has developed in this Session of the General Assembly and you have as much fun as the 58 of us did last night in reun...you know just having a rejuvenation of our friendships and our youth of 25 years ago, God bless you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and God bless everyone of you."

"The Clerk will read a Resolution. Mr. Clerk."

"House Resolution 1897, offered by Representatives Giorgi Madigan McPike Daniels McCracken Matijevich et al, whereas the 74th General Assembly of the State of Illinois celebrated its 25th reunion on June 11th, 1990 in Springfield, and whereas this group of outstanding Illinois Citizens was elected at large to the Illinois House of Representatives in 1964, by the Illinois Electorate, and whereas the 74th General Assembly was dubbed the blue ribbon by the Chicago Tribune the Chicago Sun Times the Chicago Daily News and the Better Government Association, and whereas the 74th General Assembly was pre-New Constitution, pre-income Tax, pre-EPA, pre-State Board of Elections and pre-State Board of Education and whereas many of the Members of the 74th General Assembly have continued in public service becoming mayors, associate judges, circuit judges, appellate judges and federal judges, and whereas the reunion the historic 74th General 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 Assembly is a most noteworthy event, therefor be it resolved by the House of Representatives of the 86th General Assembly of the State of Illinois that we congratulate the Members of the 74th General Assembly of the State of Illinois, for their extraordinary accomplishments in the General Assembly and in their life after the legislative service. And we wish them good health and happiness in the future and be it further resolved that suitable copies of this Preamble and Resolution be presented to each Member of the 74th General Assembly of the State of Illinois."

"The Chair recognizes Mr. Matijevich."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. It's my honor to adopt this Resolution. As all these Members walked down the aisle I didn't serve with all of them because I came here the Session afterward, but I served with a good many of them and as those that walk down the center of the aisle went by, and I didn't get a chance to shake hands with all of them, but it showed me that we learn from each other. My mind popped in seconds as each walked by some little thing that I remembered about each one of them. B.B. Wolfe, for example, who led this whole thing, I remember a eloquent speech that B.B. Wolfe gave and he talked about courage, how that vote was such a controversial issue and that it took so much courage to vote on that issue. And he ended it by saying, 'Mr. Speaker, with that I vote 'present'. And some times you remember it for some of the crazy things you do. I remember Jean Schlickman threw a rule book at the Speaker. So sometimes it's those crazy things you do that stick by with each and everyone of us and I remember as a Member of the Executive Committee and I'm not sure if George Burditt or Bill Walsh was Chairman at the time, but very...we very, we don't hear about 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day Constitutional Debate anymore. June 12, 1990 And I remember my first Session. I would just sit back and listen and we would hear Noble Lee and Jack Cassidy here from Peoria and the ex-Mayor Washington and I could sit and listen to them for two hours to debate Constitutional Law. I mean it was interesting and you know, sometimes as we rush things through nowaday, we need that type of debate. But, Tony Scariano right here, we learn from each other as I said. At that time we only had one camera, and the camera was over here. Tony Scariano made a history of coming back to the Legislature, he had a good report with the Chicago Daily News and he made a history of coming back by losing Bills. They were very controversial Bills. And I remember Tony for two things. One, the camera was over here. Tony sat over on the end and he would say is the camera there yet? And he'd talk like this, 'Mr. Speaker,' he'd look right at the camera. So I remember Tony did so well. And then I came to Tony one day, I said, 'Tony, you're getting too close, you may pass a Bill one day, and then what are you going to do?' So I see many of my friends here and I wish them well it is, it ought to remind all of us that we ought to come back more often because everybody who has ever served in this Body ought to be welcome. Whenever I see a Member come I try to shake hands with him or her, so we're always welcome. We served honorably. With that Mr. Speaker, I move the adoption of the Amendment with my best wishes to every former Member, God bless all of you. You did a great job, and you're good people."

"Before we adopt the Resolution, I would like to introduce another Member of the 74th General Assembly. A man who has dedicated a lifetime to public service in the City of Chicago and here in the General Assembly. He served with great distinction as one of my assistant 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 Leaders for a long period of time, a very good personal friend of mine, Representative Corneal Davis."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of this House and my colleagues who are noted for being blue ribbon Members, it is indeed a pleasure who wouldn't be proud? In 1942 a young Lady who was just here gave me a lovely kiss, Senator Smith's wife. Her husband and I and C.C. 'Windbedge' were the three Democrats that walked into this House in 1942. That's a long time isn't it? And who wouldn't be proud? This is a great nation. There is no difference though, because last night somebody came to talk to me about South Africa and while I love and I love my people, love all of them, I had to make the remark when they brought to me about South Africa, I said listen. I think they wanted to get me off you know. I said listen. There is no difference, my Bible says so and it's so true, there is no difference, we all have sinned. I said, but we had reservations that had been sanctified in everything else, but if you go over there to the GM in old station that's where we stayed. In the GM old station. I just wanted you to know that. But haven't we gone a long ways? And the Good Lord has blessed us, this country of ours. There's no question about it. His Hand is around us. He loves us. And we ought to love the Lord. Because He loves us. He gave us an Abraham Lincoln, but he gave us a man who helped to get that Abraham Lincoln, the Little Giant, and they're both, are they still up here? They used to be up here, the Little Giant and Lincoln was over there. Lincoln was over there, and Douglas, the Little Giant was the Douglas, we called him Little Giant. He gave us a Lincoln and a Douglas. The Little Giant, our Douglas was highly educated. So well known throughout the country. But he knew that if they engaged in a debate that the Little 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 Giant, with Lincoln, he knew and the Chicago Tribune knew that this would elevate Lincoln and the Chicago Tribune adopted Abraham Lincoln, the Lord knew what He was doing. And I've said this many times, He knew what He was doing. And it was true that Douglas did, we would call him State Right Man now because Southern Illinois was really for him. And when the great Civil War came, don't you know, Mr. Lincoln sent for him. And he went to Mr. Lincoln, and it was then that he, just before the young Mr. Lincoln made that great speech right in the old court house what it looks like. It still looks like the old court house but it's the new courthouse now. It was then that Mr. Lincoln made that great speech that we will never forget. A house divided against itself cannot stand. That was true then and God knows it's true now. Isn't it? This is the greatest Nation on Earth and God has made it the greatest, don't forget it. Don't forget it. Trust in the Lord, if I have a message for you this is my message, with all of your heart. Just don't lean to your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him and he will guide and direct your path. Last night, Cecil Partee who came down after that, a little after that, is now the State's Attorney of Chicago and I'm not making a campaign speech, but he's running again. In all the history of this nation, did you ever think we'd have a Black man who's, to be State's Attorney of this great nation? It goes to show you what this great nation is. The head man of the United States Army, and I mentioned this because I won't speak unless I give him the praise. I went to New York and came back when Moleson was sworn in as the first Black judge of New York, we came back here and I came back with the Fair Employment Practice Bill. This House was Republican. Oh, but we had a leader. You heard him today. His name was Clyde Choates. You know 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 where he was from? Anna, Illinois. And I got to tell you the story because I don't want to tell you about Anna, there wasn't no Blacks lived in his town, SO he wasn't doing it to get elected. He was a Congressional Medal of honor winner. And I got up here pleading for that Bill and Clyde Choate, the man that was introduced to you said, listen, I've been in the swamp infested jungles, the bloody beaches of the Mediterranean, came back here a Congressional Medal of Honor winner, and I served with Black men over there and if they was good enough to fight and die for this country, they're good enough to live for it. I'll never forget him. And I don't care, you can say to them blast if you will, but I love him, he's from Anna, Illinois, as long as he lives because that passed the first Fair Employment Practice Bill. And can't you see there's a lot of other Bills passed but can't you see the results of it now? Can't you see the results of it now? I walked in to the First National Bank and when I walked into the First National Bank the first time I walked in there after we passed that law, I dropped to my knees. I don't know whether any of the rest of you can say thank you Jesus, thank you Jesus, you said if we trust in Him, He has made this nation the foremost nation in all the world. And I'm saying to you, if you serve Him with your lips, I'm saying it to my folks, and I love you. I love this General Assembly now, you know there wasn't any Ladies down there that I'd feel comfortable in trying to kiss, but there's so many of them that I've kissed this morning. I kissed two of your Senators this morning. I kissed a Lady who has my name on her, Marsha Davis this morning. And I kissed a Lady who took my place and I was elected from that district 18 times, 36 years. Stand up doll baby, watch her stand. That's my doll baby. I want you to see that. She took my 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 place, stand up. God bless you and God bless this great nation. Finally, I want you to say this is final. We organized, Partee and I, he was here last night. He couldn't stay because he had to go back for his duty. He was here with me last night. And we had a lot of fun together. He's a State's Attorney. He is, as I said before and he had to go back. We organized a Black Caucus. And it was the greatest thing we ever organized in here. You know why? Because it, the Black Caucus, Chairman of it at that time, nominated one of the great Speakers of all time, and he's still the Speaker, do you hear me? There he is, right up there. ...He was the chairman of the Black Caucus. And now I'm gonna tell you a little joke. They say that a preacher and a bus driver went to Heaven. And when they got to Heaven Saint Peter said, now just a minute, just a minute, I got to show you where you're gonna live. And they got on the bus and Saint Peter drove to a beautiful bungalow and he says 'Mr. Bus driver, come on in here. This is where you gonna live.' And then he looked at the preacher and he said listen, I'm gonna show you to your home. He took him to a little one room hut and the preacher said, 'don't you know I'm a preacher? What'd you bring me in here for?' He said, 'I know you're a preacher,' but he says. 'when you was preaching all of those people went to sleep, but when I called on that bus driver and he started driving that bus all of them started to pray.' I hope when I leave here, all of you will start to praying because we need to pray."

"Thank you Deacon Davis, Dean of the House at one time. On the Resolution, those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Resolution is adopted. And to conclude, the Chair recognizes Representative B.B. Wolfe." 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day

"Mr. Speaker, June 12, 1990 Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Thank you for sharing with us and allowing us to share with you some of the events and remembrances as we walk down memory lane. In closing, in closing, Ladies and Gentlemen, we're going to close. In closing, may I say that the road to happiness is paved with good friendships. Thanks for the memories. The 74th General Assembly stands adjourned sine die, but under the rules of the House Members you have privileges on the floor. Not to vote but to walk around and meet your friends. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen."

"Representative McPike in the Chair. Representative Flinn. Representative Monroe Flinn. Representative Cullerton. Representative Flinn. Mr. Clerk, Senate Bill 1051. The Bill is on Third Reading, Representative Flinn."

"I would ask that the Bill be moved back to Second Reading and held there."

"Yes, the Bill will be moved back to Second because the Chair erred. The Parliamentarian erred. Mr. O'Brien was correct. Rule 36(f) says that a Bill cannot be read a second time unless the Committee Amendments are printed and distributed. So, Mr. Clerk, Senate Bill 1051 has not been read a second time. Have you so marked the Calendar? Senate Bill 1838, Representative Brunsvold. Out of the record. Senate Bill 2231, Representative Breslin. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 2231, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments? Mr. Clerk, is the 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 Committee Amendment printed? Alright the Bill cannot be read a second time. A Committee Amendment is not printed. A Committee Amendment was not printed and the Rules say that you cannot read a Bill a second time until the Committee Amendments are printed and distributed. Representative Breslin."

"I agree with the ruling of the Chair obviously, but how could a Committee Amendment not be printed? At this point. I mean, it's been a week."

"Mr. Clerk, would you answer Representative Breslin, please?"

"The printer did not pick up the Amendments which were adopted Thursday until yesterday and they've not returned the printed Bills yet, printed the Amendments."

"Okay. Thank you."

"Representative Lou Jones in the Chair." Speaker Jones, L.: "Can I have your attention please? Representative Williams and myself would like to introduce to you the Martin Luther King Junior High School, Senior High Basketball Championship Team. I have standing beside me, Mr. Landon Cox who is the coach. He has been the coach for nine years, he has won 345 games and he has lost 29. Also, Landon Cox has been voted the National and State Coach of the year. I would like to tell you a little bit about the high school team now. This high school team. Can I have your attention please? I'm gonna have to call out the real speaker. This basketball team was voted in, Coach Cox. In nine years at Martin Luther King High School, the high school has won first place in 1986, also in 1990. They were Second Place State Champs in 1987, Third Place State Champions in 1988. They have been City Champs four years out of the last five years. This year they were rated number one in the city, number one in the 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 state, number one in the nation, with a 32-zip record, and I think that's fantastic. Also this, also this team has had three members, three members of this team...now we have the real speaker. This team, this team...is the first time in the history of Illinois that has three members of this team that has made all-state basketball team Jamie Brandon, Johnny Selvie and Ahmad Shareef. First time in the history of this state. Also, Jamie Brandon has been voted number one and number two in the nation. And he's also was on the McDonald's All American Team that was on TV a few weeks ago, and he's attending the U of I come September. At this time I would like to introduce to you the coach the magnificent coach of this team and I'm very proud to have this team in my district, and I am so proud of all of them. And I'd like to introduce to you Landon, coach Landon Cox."

"Thank you. At this time I'd like to introduce the coaches and the team members. Raise your hands so they'll see you. Mr. Joe Faulkner, Mr. Yese Youhuta, Mrs. Boederlein, Mrs. Robinson, Mrs. Oquinn, coach Oquinn, coach Bennie Paris, Ronald Menter, Tony White, Tyre Kirby, Denard Crowfard, hold your hand up fellows Demetrius Witt, Jerrad Billingsley, Michael Irvin, Chayim Cunningham, Thomas Hamilton, Curtis Thomas, John Coleman, Richard Williams, Sylvester Ware, Noah Miller, Damian Porter, Anton Little, Mark Winters and our starting six: Johnny Selvie, Keith Johnson, Fred Scofield, Rashard Griffith, Ahmad Shareef, Jamie Brandon, and next year we'll have our twin towers, one is our captain, two seven footers, Thomas Hamilton and Rashard Griffith. Raise your hands." Speaker Jones, L.: "I would like for you to know that these two young men are freshmen, seven foot freshmen. And we're going to have another state championship team next year, Thank you." 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day

June 12, 1990 "Representative McPike, in the Chair. Senate Bill 2253. Out of the record. Criminal Law, Second Reading. Senate Bill 1845, Representative Matijevich. John Matijevich. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1845, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

Trotter. Clerk." "Third Reading. Senate Bill 2066, Representative Representative Trotter. Read the Bill, Mr.

"Senate Bill 2066, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 2166, Representative Homer. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 2166, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill1 2307, Representative Lou Jones. Representative Lou Jones. Out of the record. State and Local Government. Representative McCracken, did that young man at your chair wish Representative McCracken."

"Hi." to say a few words?

"That's Michael McCracken, he's down paging for the week. Say hi."

"Hi." 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day

June 12, 1990 "Well, that's a lot more than your dad usually says. Senate Bill 1571, Representative DeJaegher. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1571, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to transfer of property. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"No, the Amendment has not been printed."

"Out of the record. Representative Tenhouse." "Has the Amendment been printed and distributed?"

"Yes, as a point of personal privilege. I'd like to take an opportunity to introduce a guest that we have here in the chamber today. That's Mary Keller, she's a supreme president of the Supreme Emblem Club of the United States of America. So, for those of you who don't know what we're saying here that's the Lady Elks. We're very honored to have her with us today. Would you raise your hand Mary? Thank you, so much."

"Senate Bill 1649, Representative Hicks. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1750, Representative Brunsvold. Out of the record. Cullerton. Senate Bill 1776, Representative Senate Bill 1877, Representative Novak. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1877, a Bill for an Act to create Emerging Democracies Freedom Bond Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Committee Amendments?"

"No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments." "Third Reading.

Senate Bill 1884, Representative Giorgi. Representative Giorgi, do you want this Bill read? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1884, a Bill for an Act to amend the 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 Liquor Control Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1949, Representative Cullerton. Senate Bill 1996, Representative Hicks. 1996. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1996, a Bill for an Act to amend the Build Illinois Bond Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 2036, Representative Saltsman. Out of the record. Human Services, Second Readings. Senate Bill 1881, Representative Currie. Senate Bill 1906, Representative Steczo. Mr. Steczo. Senate Bill 2050, Representative Lang. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 2050, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to hospital payments. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 2127, Representative Currie. Senate Bill 2277, Representative Phelps. Representative Currie, did you wish that Bill called? Alright. Senate Bill 2127. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 2127, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Health and Safety Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments? Representative Keane in the Chair."

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Currie - Shaw." 28.  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day

"Representative Currie"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the June 12, 1990 House. This Amendment incorporates the discussions and agreements that were reached by the Department of Public Health and other interested participants on the question of bypass procedures for hospitals in the state. This is at a level of response to the problem of the Lenise Nelson case. It's identical to the provisions in House Bill 3317 which passed this Chamber three weeks ago and was tangled up in Senate Rules Committee. I'd be happy to answer your questions and would appreciate your support for the measure."

"Representative McCracken, on... Out of the record, Is there any further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 pass?' All those in favor say 'aye', all opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. Amendment #1 is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Representative McCracken."

"I think that there was an Amendment adopted in Committee. Is that right? Is this the same Amendment that was considered?"

"Representative Currie."

"I don't believe so. This came out of Executive Committee last week and I believe it came out without Amendment. This Amendment that we've just adopted is identical to the provisions of House Bill 3317. The issue deals with bypass procedures for hospitals when their emergency rooms are overcrowded."

"Alright. Yeah, you're right. Thank you."

"Amendment #1 is adopted. There being no further Amendments, Third Reading. House Bill 2277, Representative Phelps. Out of the record. On Second Reading, Insurance, Special Orders of Business, appears House Bill 1568. 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day Representative Wolf. Representative Sam Wolf. House Bill 1668, out of the record. House Bill 16...1569, Representative Hasara. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1569, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Employees Group Insurance Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Hasara."

"Representative Hasara on Amendment #1. Representative, we will be filming on the floor for the next few minutes. Alright, Representative Hasara."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #1 was requested in Committee and what it does is make this Bill compatible with the companion Bill which is Senate Bill 1568. It raises the minimum amount of coverage provided under noncontributory life insurance for state employees from $2000 to $5000. Representative Mautino and the Committee requested that this Amendment be put on this so that the two Bills would correlate with each other. I move for its adoption."

"Is there any further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall House...shall Floor Amendment #1 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', all opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, Amendment #1 is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"A fiscal note, has a fiscal note been filed?"

"A fiscal note is filed."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1864, Representative Goforth. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1864, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No 30  127th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 12, 1990 Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Matijevich."

"Representative Matijevich. Is Representative Matijevich...oh, Representative Matijevich."

"William, can you take it out of the record for about five minutes? I'm looking for my file. We'll get back to it right away."

"Okay. Take the Bill out of the record. House Bill 1962 Representative Mautino. I'm sorry. Senate Bill 1962, Representative Mautino. Out of the record, Senate Bill, oh I'm sorry Rep... Alright. We'll go back to House... Senate Bill 1962. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1962, a Bill for an Act in relation to comprehensive health insurance. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 2099, Representative Countryman. 2099. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 2099, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1, 2 and 3 were adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed relating to Committee Amendments 1, 2 and 3."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Shaw."

"Representative Shaw. Is Representative Shaw in 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 the chambers? Representative Countryman, what's your..."

"Move to table."

"Representative Countryman moves to table Floor Amendment #4. Representative Matijevich."

"Is the Committee Amendment been printed and distributed?"

"Has the Committee Amendment been printed and distributed? Representative Countryman, Committee Amendments 1, 2 and 3 have not been printed or distributed. For the same, on the same basis that Representative Breslin's Bill previously was held, we're gonna have to hold those until the Committee Amendments are printed and distributed. Representative Piel, for what purpose do you rise?"

"A question of the Chair, Mr. Speaker. I've got, you know, this is the first time this has ever came up. What seems to be the problem with Committees that we had a week ago? Where Amendments were adopted in Committee. Some of these Bills have had one Amendment of four pages, one Amendment of five pages, we don't seem to have the Amendments. What seems to be our problem with this backing that we don't have these Committee Amendments? I could understand if it were a Floor Amendment, but when we're running into a situation of Committee Amendments, it almost seems like somebody's trying to slow down the process for some reason. I mean, if these Amendments were here we could've had these Bills taken care of and been out of here before Friday. Now we have to be in Friday anyway. Could you explain us what the problem is with these Committee Amendments?" to

"I repeat the explanation that Representative McPike gave Representative Breslin. There was a mistake, well, let's let the Clerk give the same explanation."

"The commercial printer did not pick up the 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 Amendments adopted Thursday until Monday. Consequently, they have not returned the printed Committee Amendments which were adopted Thursday."

"Fine. I will except Thursday. Now what about Financial Institutions, that was held on Tuesday? We had Financial Institutions and one of the very first Bills today was a Committee Amendment of eight pages, Representative Cullerton questioned. And that was on Tuesday. And they said that the Committee Amendment had not been printed and distributed."

"I just asked the question about Thursday's Committees. I'll check on Wednesday's."

"Yes, could we find out about Wednesday and Tuesday, and what seems to be the backlog there? If that's the problem, you know, I mean, even our own printers here could get those things done faster."

"Right."

"We'll get back to you. Thank you. Representative Countryman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Committee was last Tuesday. As a matter of fact, this Bill has been, was voted out I believe a week ago last Tuesday. And I have them in the Republican file. Does that mean that they still..."

"They're not distributed to the Members, it doesn't make any difference whether..."

"Does that mean we're doing a better job on this side of the aisle then?"

"We'll take the Bill out of the record."

"Thank you."

"We'll go back to Representative Goforth's Bill. Senate Bill 1864, Representative Goforth. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990

"Senate Bill 1864, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

Clerk O'Brien" "Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Matijevich."

"Representative Matijevich on Floor Amendment #1."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Floor Amendment #231 to Senate Bill 1864..."

"Representative Matijevich, could you hold on a second there?"

"Sure." Speaker Keane: rise?" "Representative Goforth, for what reason do you

"Is this Amendment germane?"

"I'm sorry. I didn't hear your question."

"Would you check and see if this Amendment is germane? Thank you."

"We'll let Representative, proceed while we're doing that. Representative Matijevich."

"Yes. Mr. Speaker Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment %231 is similar to Amendment that was adopted prior in the House Bill. What it would provide is that insurance companies would disclose that twice a year the monies collected by zip code for premiums and the monies expended to resolve claims. It's a disclosure Amendment been adopted prior to this by the full House and I would move for its adoption."

"Alright, if we would just stand at ease, we'll hear from Representative Ropp on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative, I didn't fully understand that the 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day Amendment, but would you tell me the this kind of Amendment, it." June 12, 1990 reason for offering and what do we want to do about

"Well, the reason for offering the Amendment is SO that one can determine if insurance companies are providing reasonable premiums if and by that disclosure you can quickly determine if they are fairly assessing premiums. As you know, there are some who that feel that assessing premiums by zip code doesn't...is not a fair system that you ought to determine by one's driving record individually. For example if you are an excellent driver never had an accident and you happen to live in an area where there's a zip code that the insurance company is providing a high rate you should not be penalized so that's the reason for the Amendment."

"Well, isn't that kind of the luck of the draw. I mean if you in live in an area where people might be unsafe drivers, your chances of being hit are greater and more people actually are paying higher premiums because the costs are higher. It almost appears that this Amendment, and I haven't read it, I'll admit, but it appears that we may be attempting to...get involved with private enterprise and say to them how much they can charge for premiums...and I'm not sure that we really want to do that as a legislative body."

"No, it's strictly a disclosure Amendment. It discloses what is the...the...you know the...the number of policies that are in effect and that...zip code. The average premium for liability coverage...average premium for comprehensive coverage, average incurred loss..."

"So, what I mean who wants to know this. Are we doing this for our constituents' benefit, SO if they want to buy insurance they'll be able to look at this book and say okay 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 this company has the cheapest insurance therefore, I'll buy it? "

"My response to that Gordy is what is there to hide. You say who wants to know that. I would think everybody would want to know that. My...my response is a question, what do you have? And I don't mean you, what do you meaning the insurance companies, what did they have to hide?"

"Well, I'm not sure they've got anything to hide, I think that's part of business people."

"Well, then they ought to be for it."

"Well, these are sometimes Bill that we introduce and pass that we probably don't don't even need often times. It seems like this might me that one. It seems to me that people who are wanting to purchase insurance would be the persons who would actually get involved with calling an insurance agent and being sold, being comfortable with that particular policy and the premium based on the amount of coverage. I'm not sure that what we're doing here is something that seems to me like as in being more involved in the free enterprise system of business and...I guess I'm trying to raise the question. Why does the Legislature feel that they ought to do this when the public has the freedom to find out on their own?"

"...In terms of your request on germaneness, Representative Goforth on behalf of the Speaker the Parliamentarian will explain his ruling."

"That's germane."

"Okay...Representative Pedersen."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Will the sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"How does the Department of Insurance feel about 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 this... Amendment, Representative?"

"I haven't talked to them."

"...Just another one of those, is this an IPAC piece of legislation?"

"I'm proud to say that this is an IPAC Amendment. Wait a minute, IPAC to me is not a dirty word. If IPAC is a dirty word then the insurance lobby is a dirty word. I don't think either one of them are dirty words, the insurance industry, as a lobby group...it represents it's interest. IPAC as far as I'm concerned represents the interest of the consumer. There's nothing wrong with that we fight our battles here whoever wins, wins, but don't say IPAC's a dirty word, it's not."

"Well, you know, a socialist isn't a dirty word either, but these all these guys want are more government. I just wanted to know...IPAC Bill. How do the collecting all this information and shipping it down to the to state and...doing all this additional paperwork that they're already doing. How's the insurance company feel about collecting this data?"

"Well, the insurance companies should feel...shouldn't be opposed to..."

"Well, how how do they feel? I'm just asking...not what they should be. I'm mean what do they feel about it? Have you talked to them about it, are there any problems this?"

"No, I have it. But I've watched them lobby so I can tell you I know how they feel. They're opposed to it...so and they shouldn't be. Any time you're providing access to information that will be helpful to consumers to determine whether their premiums are too high. Whether their premiums are fair. I think is information that the public has a right to know. So, they ought to be for it, they're 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 12, 1990 127th Legislative Day opposed to it."

"Well, Representative isn't this data really already available in...in Department of Insurance?"

"There's data available once a year, I don't believe that it's as comprehensive as this...but I think it ought to be available...twice a year and it ought to be by zip code. Because that is an issue that crops up quite often. So, I think it's...data that is very necessary."

"How much is this going to cost, do we have a price tag on it?"

"No, I don't."

"No, price? You don't know what it's going to cost?"

"No, I don't. I think... I think when we had the Bill up before there was some discussion about that it...it wasn't in my mind...a heavy cost at all and I don't, I think it's...whatever cost it is it would be reasonable considering."

"Well, IPAC...IPAC has never worried about cost that's for sure. Can you tell me whether or not the...you know we've got a very competitive insurance...system in Illinois. Can you tell me whether all the insurance companies use zip codes when they do their rating on automobiles?"

"No, all of them don't, but..."

"Do you have any idea how many? I mean there aren't very many really, are there?"

"No, I don't how many of them do but..."

"Well, if you don't really know how many do then why are we going through all this trouble when it probably won't even be used by that many people?"

"Because some of them do and I don't think all of the insurance companies have this information available right now. The cost shouldn't be much because they already have 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 this data. All it amounts to is shipping the data twice a year to the Department of Insurance. And so even if...even if the insurance company doesn't assess premium by zip codes it still is data that they have available."

"So, what you're telling us is there are probably some insurance companies out there that might be using this zip codes, so we'll just spend all this money so that we can have this data to apply to those few companies."

"You said few, I didn't."

"Well, Mr. Speaker. To the Amendment this is just another example of IPAC and the Legislature's desire to micromanage a very competitive business. Auto rates in Illinois is for a state with a big city or some of the best in the country. It's very competitive and this is just another example of more bureaucratic red tape paperwork that the other side of the aisle seems to really love. And I recommend a 'no' vote."

"Representative Regan, please."

"Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. To the Amendment, the Amendment will raise auto insurance premiums because of the duplicative reporting. Once a year this information is assembled. Once a year it's available. That's not good enough, they want it twice a year. They also want it by zip codes, not geographical areas, but broken down a little more closely. That is the first step...that's the first step in regards to statewide leveling of insurance rates. And you guys downstate ought to listen to it very carefully. The first step in making insurance rates level throughout the State of Illinois. I would say that the areas that have higher accident rates should have higher premiums. I'd advice a 'no' vote. Mr. Speaker, I would ask for a Roll Call vote on the Amendment, please."

"Representative McCracken." 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day

June 12, 1990 "IPAC doesn't have to be a dirty word but the way it's sold to the public makes it a problem. They're financed entirely by Democratic money they endorse only Democratic candidates regardless of Republican candidate's position on the merits. They engage in guerilla warfare. They've lost the debate on rate regulation for the past 20, 30, 40, 50 years however they've been...however long they've been around. So, what they can't get directly they seek to do indirectly. Representative Regan is exactly right. This is the first step toward regulation. This is the first tactic in their guerilla war. I say 'no' to this. I say 'no' to rate regulation. I say 'no' to rates that are not based on experience. I say 'no' to artificial leveling of rates. I say 'no' to the IPAC, because they don't represent the consumer. The represent the Democratic Party period. They...the represent the Democratic Party, period."

"Representative Hultgren, please."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of the Amendment. It would appear to me that for those who are advocating that competition regulate the industry that in fact, this Amendment is a good one. It puts information in the hands of the consumer, and requires the director of insurance to publish that information. It sets no rates, it requires no action on the part of the insurance company, other than to make information available to the consumer. So, they can make an informed choice and presumably to choose the company or the underwriter who offers the least cost premium in their particular zip code. So, rise in support of the Amendment and urge support of it."

"Representative Hultgren, the Democratic Leader of the State, Gary LaPaille offers you a free dinner at any restaurant in Springfield tonight. Representative 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day Goforth: Goforth." June 12, 1990 "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. John, me and you are not on opposite sides too many times in this House. And the only reason why that I'm against you this time is when I went to the Chairman of the Insurance Committee and asked for support to pass this Bill out of his Committee. At that time it was a very simple Bill. I told him the only Amendment we needed on it was to just clarify what the zone said, it takes in 28 counties I think the next Amendment up would be it. So, for that reason and that reason only I'll have to stand up in opposition of your Amendment."

"Representative Matijevich to close."

"Mr. Speaker, I appreciate Wayne Goforth's remarks because he and I are very, very good friends and I don't ordinarily amend anybody's Bill. Frankly, I try to work on my own legislation and do the best that I can. But I was asked to put the this Amendment on, and I've always supported this issue because it is only a disclosure issue. all of the insurance companies have this information. Some insurance companies for some reason don't want to disclose by zip codes. If what this would determine is it would determine if by that disclosure it would you would find out what they're paying out for claims and their premiums, you would find out if the right rates are justified. There's nothing wrong with that. This is not a Republican Amendment, it is not a Democratic Amendment. Frankly, I think that organizations like IPAC they have endorsed Republicans. I think that it is more often the case that we may be more supportive of consumer legislation than you. So I think it's a good Amendment, I apologize to my good friend, Wayne Goforth that I have to do try this on his Bill. But I would ask for your support."

"The question is, 'Shall this Amendment be 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 adopted?' All in favor vote 'aye', all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Amendment there are 58 voting 'aye', 52 voting 'no', 3 voting 'present'. And Representative McCracken asks for a verification of the Affirmative Roll Call. Mr. Clerk, Poll the Absentees. Poll those not voting."

"Poll of those not voting. Shirley Jones. Krska. Mulcahey. Ronan. and Turner. No further."

"Representative Ewing, for what reason do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, I had wanted to explain my vote and my light was on but you didn't see it until after you'd taken the Roll."

"Alright, thanks. Mr. Clerk, read the Affirmative Roll Call."

Clerk O'Brien: "Balanoff. Bowman. Brunsvold. Bugielski. Capparelli. Cullerton. Currie. Davis. DeJaegher. DeLeo. Dunn. Edley. Farley. Flinn. Flowers. Giglio. Jones. Keane. Kulas. Lang. Laurino. LeFlore. Leverenz. Levin. Martinez. Matijevich. McNamara. McPike. Morrow. Munizzi. Novak. Phelps. Preston. Rice. Richmond. Saltsman. Santiago. Satterthwaite. Shaw. Steczo. Stern. Sutker. Terzich. Trotter. Van Duyne. White. Williams. Wolf. Woolard. Anthony Young. Wyvetter Younge. And Mr. Speaker."

"Do you have any questions of the Affirmative, Representative McCracken?"

"Yes, thank you. Oh, oh they've marked Representative Leverenz. But he's...he's here."

"He's in chamber."

"Representative Farley?" 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day

June 12, 1990 "Representative Farley, is in the rear of the chamber."

"Bruce welcome back. I hope you're feeling better good to see you. Representative Giglio? "

"Representative Giglio. Is Representative Giglio in the chambers? Remove him from the Roll Call."

"Representative Flinn?"

"Representative Flinn. Is Representative Flinn in the chambers? Remove him from the Roll Call."

"Representative Van Duyne?"

"Is Representative Van Duyne in the chamber?

Representative Van Duyne. McCracken: "Representative Shaw?" Remove him from the Roll Call."

"Is Representative Shaw in the chambers? Shaw? Remove him from the Roll Call."

"Representative McGann?"

"Is Representative McGann in the chambers? Remove him from the Roll Call."

"Wait. He's a 'present' I'm sorry."

"Okay."

"Representative McNamara?"

"Representative McNamara. McNamara in the chambers? Is Representative Remove him from the Roll Call."

"Representative Laurino?"

"Is Representative Laurino in the chambers? Remove him from the Roll Call."

"Representative Satterthwaite?"

"Is Representative Satterthwaite in the chambers? Remove her from the Roll Call."

"Representative Davis?"

"Is Representative Monique Davis in the chamber? Remove her from the Roll Call."

"Representative Dunn?" 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day

June 12, 1990 "Representative John Dunn. He's in the rear of the chambers."

"Oh, I see him. Representative Trotter?"

"Representative Trotter. Leave to be verified."

"Representative Flowers?"

"Representative Flowers. on Mr. McCracken?"

"Trotter. He's here."

I'm sorry what were you Speaker Keane: "Representative Trotter in the chamber."

"Representative Santiago?"

"Representative Miguel Santiago. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Remove him from the Roll Call."

"Representative Terzich?"

"Is Representative Terzich in the chamber? Remove him from the Roll Call."

"Representative Anthony Young?"

"Representative Anthony Young. Is Representative Anthony Young in the chamber? Remove him from the Roll Call."

"Representative Currie?"

"Was that Curran?"

"Currie, Barbara."

"Currie. Is Representative Currie, Barbara Currie in the chambers? Barbara Currie. Remove her from the Roll Call."

"Representative Phelps?"

"Return Representative Currie to the Roll Call. She's in the rear of the chamber. Representative Phelps is in the Balcony... Representative Phelps you are not on the Roll Call in the balcony until you come to the floor you will be..." McCracken; "Oh, no he doesn't have to come I see him. have to come. Thank you." He doesn't 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990

"Representative McCracken withdraws his request."

"Representative DeLeo?"

"Is Representative DeLeo in the chambers? Remove him from the Roll Call. Representative Mautino, for what purpose do you rise?"

"Two purposes. Sir, first to change my vote and to explain the rationale for the change."

"Proceed."

"Originally when I listened to the debate I was concerned that the zip code provisions..."

"Hey, no. No. No. No. It's too late to explain your vote."

"You can do your explanation of vote, you can change your vote and then do it during explanation."

"Fine. I will do that then and change my 'no' vote to 'yes'."

"Record Mr. Mautino as 'yes'. Mr. Mulcahey. Record Mr. Mulcahey as an 'aye'..."

"Is it something I said?"

"Representative McCracken, do you have any further?"

"Representative LeFlore?"

"Is Representative LeFlore in the chamber? Representative LeFlore. Remove him from the Roll Call."

"Representative Lou Jones?"

"Is Representative Jones in the chamber? Representative Jones in the chamber? Remove her from the Roll Call."

"Representative Shirley Jones?"

"Is Representative Shirley Jones in the chamber? She's not voting."

"Okay. Representative Brunsvold?"

"Is Representative Brunsvold in the chamber? 45  127th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 12, 1990 Remove him from the Roll Call."

"Alright, nothing further."

"Representative Balanoff for what purpose do rise?"

"We want to verify the negative if this prevails."

"Okay. Mr. Clerk, read the negative."

"Ackerman. Barger."

"Can you hold up, Mr. Representative McCracken."

"Yes, apparently I was in error in not allowing Representative Mautino an opportunity to explain his vote."

"That's alright."

"He's free to do so."

"Thank you, Representative. Mr. Clerk, continue to read the negative vote."

"Barnes. Black. Breslin. Churchill. Countryman. Cowlishaw. Daniels. Deuchler. Didrickson. Doederlein."

"Return Representative Monique Davis to the Roll Call please. Voting 'aye'. Continue."

"Ewing. Virginia Frederick. Goforth. Hallock. Harris. Hasara. Hensel. Hoffman. Johnson. Kirkland. Klemm."

"For what purpose does Representative Granberg rise? Record Representative Granberg as 'aye'."

"Continuing the Poll of the negative. Kubik. Leitch. McAuliffe. McCracken. Noland. Bob Olson. Myron Olson. Parcells. Parke. B. Pedersen. W. Peterson. Petka. Piel. Pullen. Regan. Ropp. Ryder. Sieben. Stange. Stephens. Tenhouse. Wait. Weaver. Weller. Wennlund. Williamson. Wojcik. and Zickus. No further."

"Representative Balanoff."

"Representative Ropp?"

"Is Representative Ropp in the Chamber?" 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day

"He okay. Balanoff: June 12, 1990 How about Representative Myron Olson?" "Representative Myron Olson. Is Representa...Myron Olson is in the chambers? Is Myron Olson in the chambers? Remove him from the Roll Call."

"Representative Ewing?"

"Is Representative Ewing in the chamber? Remove him from the Roll Call."

"Representative Harris?"

"Is Representative Harris in the chamber? Remove him from the Roll Call."

"How about Representative Peterson? Bill Peterson."

"Return Representative Ewing to the Roll Call as a 'no'. Return Representative Harris as a 'no' vote Roll Call."

"Representative Zickus?" to the

"Representative Zickus. Representative Zickus is in the chamber."

"None further. Thank you."

"There being no further questions on the negative. On this Amendment #1 there are 47 voting 'aye', 50 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present' and the Amendment fails. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Goforth."

"Representative Goforth."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Amendment does exactly what I told the Representative before. All it does is clarify the zone that this is in...29 of the southern counties that this applies to. I ask for it's approval."

"Is there any discussion on Amendment number, is there any further discussion on Floor Amendment #2? There being none the question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', all opposed 'no'. The 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 'ayes have it and Amendment #2 is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. The Committee Amendments are presently being distributed. And with that in mind we will go back...to Senate Bill 2099. Representative Countryman. Out of the record. The next Order of Business is on Second Reading, the Transportation Second Reading. Special Order of Business. Senate Bill 1491, Representative Hicks. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1491, a Bill for an Act to amend the All-terrain Vehicle Safety Act. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Hicks."

"Representative Hicks."

"Mr. Speaker, would you take it out of the record for the moment?"

"Take the Bill out of the record. Senate Bill 2167, Representative Novak. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill"

"Senate Bill 2167, a Bill for an Act to provide for the creation of the Kankakee River Valley Area Airport. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee or Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. In explanation of Committee Amendments...the Committee Amendments are normally distributed to the Bill books, Senate Bill books, that are on the Floor. Since in many cases people do not have their Bill books on the desk, they didn't receive those. So that is why they are now being distributed once again. On Second Reading, last page 3 of the Special Order of Business appears the Order of Business Children and on that 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 Senate Bill 1577, Representative Parke. Representative Parke. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1577, a Bill for an Act to amend the Abused and Neglected Child Reporting Act. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee or Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 2009, Representative Kubik. Representative Kubik. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 2009, a Bill for an Act in relationship to hearing impaired and behavioral disordered children. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee or Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2089 or Senate Bill 2089, Representative Parke. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 2089, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning children. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee or Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 2093, Representative Kubik. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 2093, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning abused and neglected neglect reports. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee or Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 2108, Representative Parke. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 2108, a Bill for an Act to amend the Children and Family Services Act. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee or Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. The next Order of Business is State Government Administration. Second Reading. Special Orders. Senate Bill 1496, Representative Capparelli State Government Administration. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1497, Representative Capparelli. Senate Bill 1497. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Oh, out of the record? Okay out of 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 the record. Senate Bill 1700, Representative Phelps. Representative Phelps. Senate Bill 2052, Representative Munizzi. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 2052, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee or Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Go back to Representative Hicks is now ready with his Bill on 1491, Senate Bill 1491. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1491, a Bill for an Act to amend the All-terrain vehicle Safety Act. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by

Representative Hicks. Speaker Keane: "Representative Hicks."

"Thank you, very much. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 allows the excess to Shawnee National Forest and the crossing between some of the areas that are public domain down there and it was a technical Amendment that allowed this and we talked about in the Committee hearing and it simply does what I told them in Committee we would do."

"Is there any discussion? There being none the question is, 'Shall Floor Amendment #1 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it and Amendment #1 is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. We now go back to State Government Administration and the next Bill is Senate Bill 2150, Representative Myron Olson. Out of the record. Next is Senate Bill 2217, Representative White. Representative 50  127th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 12, 1990 White, 2217. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 2217, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to the establishment of a medical center district. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Breslin in the Chair."

"State Government Administration. Second Reading appears Senate Bill 2229, Representative Munizzi. Out of the record. On the Special Order of State, on the Order of Public Utilities appears Senate Bill 2091, Representative Hoffman. Mr. Hoffman? Out of the record. Representative Piel for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"I believe 2091 went to Third earlier in the day, Madam Speaker."

"Thank you. Ladies and Gentlemen we are going to start again on all of the Second Readings. So that we can go back to those Bills that were not heard because the print...the Amendments the Committee Amendments were not printed and distributed. If you wish your Bill out of the record at this time just signal to me. But we'll start at the beginning and proceed rather quickly. The First Order is Banking - Second Reading. Senate Bill 2083, Representative Hicks. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 2083, a Bill for an Act to create the Saving Bank Act. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee or Floor Amendments."

"Out of the record. On the Second Reading - 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day Education Kirkland. appears Senate Bill 1766, June 12, 1990 Representative Mr. Kirkland, do you want this Bill heard at this time? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1842, Representative Curran. Out of the record. On the Order of Environment Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1838, Representative Brunsvold. Representative Brunsvold? Out of the record. Senate Bill 2231. Clerk, read the Bill. Excuse me, Representative Bowman for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Well, the last Bill up here made reference to deer season spelled 'dear' I just wondered what a 'dear' season was. It's spelled 'dear'."

"Representative Brunsvold, will explain that to us at a later date, I'm sure. Mr. Clerk, read 2231,"

"Senate Bill 2231, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"We'll take it out of the record at this time. Senate Bill 2253, Representative Currie. Out of the record. On the Order of Criminal Law Second Reading appears Senate Bill 2307. Representative Jones. Lou Jones? Do you want this Bill heard now? Clerk read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 2307, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Regan."

"Representative Regan. Bob Regan, you're recognized to present the Amendment, Sir."

"Thank you, Mr. (sic Madam) Speaker, Members of the House. The Amendment #1, to House, Senate Bill 2307 simply 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day adjusts the language in regards to the child Bill to it make fully or partially developed breast. urge its adoption." June 12, 1990 pornography I

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment #1, to Senate Bill 2307. And on that question is there any discussion? There being none the question is, 'Shall Amendment 1 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment's adopted. Are there any further Amendment?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. On the Order of State and Local Government - Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1571. Representative DeJaegher. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1649, Representative Hicks. Mr. Hicks. Do you want this one read? 1649. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1750, Representative Brunsvold. Mr. Brunsvold, do you want this? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1776, Representative Cullerton. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1949, out of the record. Senate Bill 2036, Representative Saltsman. Mr. Saltsman? Out of the record. On the Order of Human Services - Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1881, Representative Currie. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1906, Representative Steczo. Mr. Steczo. Out of the record. Senate Bill 2277, Representative Phelps. Out of the record. On the Order of Insurance - Second Reading appears Senate 1568, Representative Wolf. Clerk read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1568, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Employee Group Insurance Act. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee or Floor Amendments."

"Representative Wolf."

"Madam Speaker, has the fiscal note been filed on this 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 Bill?"

"Mr. Clerk, can you tell us that? No, it has not Representative Wolf, so the Bill remains on Second Reading. Senate Bill 2099, Representative Countryman. Clerk read the Bill. Out of the record. On the Order of State Government Administration - Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1496. Representative Capparelli. Would you care to have these two Bills heard on State Government Administration? Clerk read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1496, a Bill for an Act to amend the Counties Code. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee or Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1497. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1700, Representative Phelps. Out of the record. Senate Bill 2150, Myron Olson. Representative Olson. Out of the record. Senate Bill 2229. Out of the record. Senate Bill 2229. Out of the record. Ladies and Gentlemen we have a few Bill on your calendar on regular Second Order, Senate Bills Second Reading. Starting on page three there are only about 9 or 10 Bills, but we will go through them and proceed. The first Bill is Senate Bill 1125, Representative Piel. Mr. Piel. Clerk read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1125, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Saving and Loan Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions or Amendments?"

"No Motions and no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1484, Representative Bugielski. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1565, Representative Bugielski. Out of the record. On page 4 appears Senate Bill 1843, Representative Steczo. Mr. Steczo. Out of the record. On page 6 appears Senate 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 Bill 2168, Representative Countryman. Would you like this Bill called? 2168, Clerk read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 2168, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Ryder."

"Representative Ryder. Is Mr. Ryder in the chamber? Representative Ryder is not in the chamber. Out of the record. Senate Bill 2187, Representative Daniels. Who is handling this for Representative Daniels? Clerk read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 2187, a Bill for an Act to amend various Acts in relationship to assistance for families. Second Reading of this Bill. There are no Committee or Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 2309, Representative Anthony Young. Representative Anthony Young. Out of the record. Representative Countryman did you...were you signaling me to go back to your Bill? Representative Countryman, okay. That Bill is Senate Bill 2168. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 2168, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Ryder."

"Representative Ryder, Representative McCracken will present the Amendment for Representative Ryder. Proceed Sir."

"Thank you, Amendment #1 would allow liquor, as 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 opposed to currently beer and wine only, to be sold or consumed in buildings under the control of the Department of Conservation. And these buildings would be available for use regardless whether they're located in parks, but they must be under the control or the Department of Conservation Bills or buildings. I move its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 2168. On the question the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton.

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He will."

"I don't know anything but I'll yield."

"Well, does the current law appear to authorize the sale of beer and wine in buildings under the control of the Department of Conservation?"

"Well, according to my explanation it's limited to buildings in parks under the control of Conservation. This would expand it to liquor and to buildings not necessarily located in parks, but under the control of the Department of Conservation."

"What other...I mean we're not the big rush here. We got time to reason, I guess."

"Okay, that's fine. If there's a problem."

"Well, I thought we were in this era of anti-drunk driving and all that. I'm just curious why we're expanding it. Beer and wine is..." McCracken; "I was hoping we could put it on, but if not, then maybe Representative Ryder is on his way up."

"I would assume that the beer and wine people are happy with what they have got now and this would be people who sell things other than beer and wine who would be in favor of this...but I guess at the same time if you're going to sell or serve alcohol it doesn't make any 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day difference whether it's just beer and wine. I June 12, 1990 So that part's alright, guess the question is, what buildings are we talking about? The right now the law says beer and wine may be sold in buildings in parks under the control of state Department of Conservation when written consent to the issuance of a license to sell...this liquor in such buildings as filed with the commission by the State Department of Conservation. Now to expand it to buildings outside of parks I'm just curious what does that mean? Does that mean...?"

"Apparently, what prompts this is a desire to allow its use or sale in buildings leased by the Department of Conservation, not owned by the Department of Conservation. And there are restaurants in some of these buildings and because DOC is leased now they can't, they cannot provide the liquor."

"Do you have an example of one of those?"

"Pere Marquette Lodge."

"Pere Marquette, that's a good example. We spent we just spent millions of dollars to fix it up but now they can't even, theoretically they can't even sell hard liquor there? Of course if there's no hard liquor it seems like they would have to drink beer and wine. So I would think the beer and wine people would be in favor...would be against this Amendment."

"Well, I will defer to better minds than I."

"Alright, this makes sense."

"Any further discussion? There being none the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments?" 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day

Speaker Breslin: "Third Reading. Senate Bill 1843, Representative Curran. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1843, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, being offered by Representative McNamara."

"Mr. McNamara. Representative McNamara. The Gentleman is not on the floor. Representative Curran. Representative, the Bill is 1842. Representative...Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments filed to 1842?"

"Senate Bill 1842, a Bill for an Act amend the School Code. Second Reading of this Bill. Amendments numbers 1 and 2 were adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Ladies we...Ladies and Gentlemen we have a few Bills on Third Reading. They are Sponsored by Representative Capparelli and Representative Lang. If they would come to the floor we have time now to recognize them to present their Bills on Third Reading. We're looking for Representatives Capparelli and Lang. Come to the floor please. I see that Representative Lang is in the chamber. Representative Lang, you have a Bill on Third Reading under State Government Administration, Senate Bill 784, would you be prepared to present this...that Bill at this time? Proceed, please. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Senate Bill 784."

"On the Order of Third Reading, Senate Bill 784, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Act on Aging. Third 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 12, 1990 127th Legislative Day Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Lang."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House Senate Bill 784, is a Bill that authorizes the Department on Aging to set up a system whereby they can fund local senior centers throughout the State of Illinois. Approximately 300,000 senior centers were served statewide. I'm sorry 300,000 senior citizens were served statewide by these center in 1988. Ten years ago the Federal Older Americans Act made funding available for one time payments to establish these centers across the United States and currently these funds are not available from the federal government. Because these centers were established and because of the great work they do we need to set up a structure whereby we can continue to fund these programs not necessarily with current dollars which we may not have, but we need to create a situation where we have a structure so that when dollars are available they can be funneled through the appropriate parties to repair senior centers that are falling apart to help maintain them. And as time goes on to build new senior centers. As we all know the problems with seniors are critical and these senior centers provide great help to seniors in your local constituencies...and I would ask your support of this important Bill."

"The Gentleman has moved the passage of Senate Bill 784. And on that question the Gentleman from Lee, Representative Olson." Olson, M.: "Would the Sponsor yield, please?"

"He will." Olson, M.: "Representative Lang, is there an accompanying appropriation laying for this program?"

"There is no accompanying appropriation. It is as merely 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 an authorization to set up the appropriate structure Representative. No dollars are contemplated as of this time." Olson, M.: "When you originally thought of this legislation were you hopeful of having an appropriation?"

"I'm hopeful that as soon as possible there will be dollars available in our budget so that we can move on the ideas presented by the Bill. But of course, the money isn't there currently and there we are not contemplating asking for it currently." Olson, M.: M"Would you consider readdressing this issue in 1991, when monies may be available rather than moving for the substance of the Bill now?"

"I believe the substance is appropriate now and I believe that we should set up this structure so that as we approach the next fiscal year we can be in an position to see this program out there and try to prioritize it SO the funds will be there. I fear that if we wait till next year to do this, then it'll take two years to try to find the funding for it." Olson, M.: "Thank you. To the Bill just briefly Madam Speaker. We are in a significant crush fiscally and while it's an appropriate area to consider and to be supportive of my suggestion is that we not do it in this year."

"Is there any further discussion? There being no further discussion, Representative Lang is recognized to close."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. These senior centers are important facilities locally. They provide a broad spectrum of services for health, social and nutritional educational needs of your senior citizens. The money is not in the budget currently we're not asking for funds, this is not a program where we're saying to the General 60  127th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 12, 1990 Assembly let's propose a program and not fund it. But what we are saying is, let's propose a program and plan to fund it in the future. Let's set up this structure today for all of our senior citizens across the state, and I urge strongly a 'green' vote.

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 784 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Sixty votes are required for passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 101 voting 'aye', 10 voting 'no'. Representative Flowers votes 'aye'. There are 102 voting 'aye', 10 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. On the Order of Second Re Nin ing on Insurance there was a Bill that we held there for fiscal note, that fiscal note has been filed. So with leave of the Body I will go to that Bill it's Senate Bill 1568. Clerk read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1568, on the Order of Second Reading amends the State Employees Group Insurance Act. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee or Floor Amendments. A fiscal note has been filed."

"Third Reading. Also with leave of the Body I will go to Senate Bill 2150, for Representative Olson if he will take his chair. 2150, Clerk read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 2150, a Bill for an Act pertaining to vehicle emission controls. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Wennlund."

"Representative Wennlund."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Floor Amendment #1 deletes 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 Will County from the provisions of this Bill. The EFCPA has already testified and issued written evidence that is not necessary to include Will County within the provisions of this, and that other measures are satisfactory. Representative Van Duyne joins me in this Amendment to exclude the...from the provisions of the coverage for vehicle emission testing the County of Will which as you know, is a relatively rural county. As a matter fact, one jet airplane produces more exhaust than about 800,000 cars. So it's a ridiculous provision of this Bill will not hurt the State of Illinois and will not hurt any funding or any federal funding. The United States EPA has already testified that it is not necessary to include Will County. So I ask my colleagues in the House to adopt this Amendment and include, exclude Will County from the provisions of the Bill."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment 1, to Senate Bill 2150. On that question the Gentleman from Lee, Representative Olson." Olson, M.: "Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. We oppose Amendment #1, by Representative Wennlund. The Bill that has been sent to us from the Senate Minority Leader Pate Philip's Bill is extremely comprehensive. It does not get us into a posture of selecting zip codes, it has the approval of the EPA...the state EPA. This Bill sunsets the present law sunsets in January of '91 and as we look down to a five year extension period it is very important that the Bill passes in this basic form and we would reject the criteria that says that this is an unusual burden in rural areas. First of all, there is no cost identified to the person having this vehicle emissions test. I'd rather not get into discussing the Bill at this time. But the Bill is so structured that it works out 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 very satisfactory. We would recommend rejection of this Amendment."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Kulas."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I too rise in opposition to Amendment #1. Let's face it everybody would want to opt out of this program but the cars in Will County pollute the air just as much as the cars in Cook County do. And I will ask all my colleagues to vote 'no' on this Amendment."

Speaker Breslin: "Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Representative Wennlund is recognized close." to

"Thank you Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As I mentioned before the Unites States EPA has testified and sent written evidence that it is not necessary to include the County of Will in its emission testing program. Will County is rural county that all is necessary is to tighten up some of the procedures in the emissions testing. I ask you to join me as and Representative Van Duyne also request that...Gentleman and join me in excluding Will County from the provisions of this Bill which is totally not necessary. Thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. The Gentleman from Will Representative Regan."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. I would appreciate some 'green' votes up there. Will County never has had a problem with their emissions and even one small section that we have that mixes up Cook and Will very close together, it's had no problems. We've had more problems with zip codes than we have with air pollution."

"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day there are 24 Amendment fails. June 12, 1990 voting 'aye', 77 voting 'no', and the Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representative Wennlund."

"Representative Wennlund."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Floor Amendment #2 if those of you by that last vote have indicated you feel emissions testing is so important then every county in the State of Illinois ought to part of the emissions testing zone. So that we're if we're really going get serious about cleaning the air up in Illinois then let's have all 102 counties participate in emissions testing. Now, this makes a lot of sense. Stop and think about it, there's not a truck going down the road that goes through emissions testing. Think of the North West elite of prevailing winds. This makes sense. If we're really going get serious as Representative Olson has stated about air quality then let's have every county in the State of Illinois participate in emissions testing, and I urge the adoption of this Amendment."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment 2, to Senate Bill 2150, and on that question is there any discussion? Is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook Representative Kulas."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of House. This is just an attempt to kill a good Bill and I would also rise to oppose this Amendment. Let's face it there are rural counties which don't need to be tested. Unfortunately Will is not one of those so, I would still ask my colleagues to vote 'no' on this Amendment."

"The Gentleman from Lee, Representative Olson." Olson, M.: "Well, thank you again Madam Speaker. Myron Kulas described the Amendment correctly. We should get on with 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 what we we're doing here we're talking about an impact of 155 to 170 million dollars on reimbursement to the state. Looking down the road from now maybe we'll have to put eight counties in the next five year cycle, as a consequence we should not adopt this Amendment."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment 2 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Representative Wennlund would you like to explain, like to close? Representative

Wennlund.' Wennlund: "Thank you, Madam Speaker. You know those of you who are from Cook, and Lake, and DuPage, and Will, is it really fair that you should bear the entire burden of emissions testing? If you want a chance all of you who live outside the state ought to vote in favor of this because , if we're really serious about emissions testing as Representative Kulas has said, then the entire state ought to participate on an equal basis with everybody else. I move for favorable votes."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton. One minute to explain your vote."

"I was just going to ask Representative Wennlund if this was one of the Amendments that was suggested by the school children in his district? Because we might be eligible for an award. I'd like to."

"Representative Wennlund."

"Well, actually about half of the 600 responses I received are from Representative Cullerton's district. Thank you."

"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 12 voting 'aye', 95 voting 'no', and the Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendment?" 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990

"Floor Amendment #3, being offered by Representative Myron Olson."

"Mr. Clerk, can you tell us if this Amendment has been printed and distributed?"

"The Amendment has not been printed and distributed."

"Okay. Out of the record. Ladies and Gentlemen we're going to the Order of Speaker's Table. It appears on Page 14 on your Calendar. There are many Resolutions to be addressed. The Sponsors begin with Representative McNamara, Representative Curran, Representative Steczo, Balanoff, Flinn, Woolard, Balanoff, Santiago, Black, et cetera. The first Bill is House Resolution 35, Representative McNamara and Piel. Out of the record. House Resolution 180, Representative Curran and Preston. Do you want to have your Resolution heard? We don't know when we will get back to these. Out of the record. House Resolution 196, Representative Steczo. Mr. Steczo. Out of the record. House Resolution 340, Representative Balanoff. Proceed Sir."

"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Resolution 340, would raise the amount that you could sue for in an informal hearing from $1,000 to $1500. The small claims court. I don't even remember what my Resolution does."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of House Resolution 340. And on that question is there any discussion? There being no discussion the question is, 'Shall House Resolution 340 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Resolution is adopted. House Resolution 617 Representative Flinn and Kubik. Out of the record. House Resolution 1024 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 Representative Woolard and Hannig. Proceed Sir."

"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would encourage you to support this piece of...this Resolution it's in regards to congratulations to the Illinois Coal Miners."

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of House Resolution 1024. On that question the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative McCracken."

"I know that it's important for labor and this is the most important thing that has labor's attention that it's unions in the various states and localities stand in solidarity. But we don't know any of the facts of the Connecticut issue. I don't think that we should be congratulating a union for taking a firm stand in a situation we don't know anything about. I know these congratulatory Resolutions don't have the force of law, but I do think it sends the wrong message to take this kind of position, merely because an Illinois union is standing with its brothers who are striking in another state. We don't know anything about the situation in the other state. I just think it's inappropriate to pass this Resolution."

"Is there any further discussion? There being none. Representative Woolard is recognized to close."

"I totally disagree with the previous speaker. I think it is very important that we do have solidarity. I think it's a very important that we show our support of that solidarity and I would encourage the passage of this Resolution."

"The question is, 'Shall House Resolution 1024 pass?' All those in favor vote or be adopted rather. All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. A Majority vote is required for passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 83 voting 'aye', 22 voting 'no', and 4 voting 'present' and the Resolution is adopted. The next Resolution is House Resolution 1360, Representative Santiago. Out of the record. House Resolution 1422, Representative Black. Proceed Representative Black."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. HR 1422, simply extends the reporting deadline of the special task force on rural daycare until October 31st 1990. That task force was created by House Resolution 545, which passed here June 22nd, 1988. I'd appreciate a favorable vote on HR 1422."

"Any discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 108 voting 'yes', none voting 'no', and none voting 'present', and the House does adopt House Resolution 1422 and this having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Resolution 1564, Representative Breslin. Mr. Clerk, read the Resolution."

"House Resolution 1564, urges the Illinois Department of Public Aid to pursue federal matching funds available through the emergency assistance to needy families with children. Human Services Committee recommends be adopted."

"The Lady from LaSalle, Representative Breslin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker there is an Amendment on file to this Bill. I would ask that the Amendment be considered and adopted. The purpose of the Amendment is to change some language to make the Resolution more agreeable to the Illinois Department of Public Aid. 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 127th Legislative Day June 12, 1990 It simply eliminates the specific amount of money that we could have been receiving all over this period of time and says that it is a substantial sum of money. I ask that Amendment #1 be adopted?"

"Are there any Amendments?"