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Illinois House Floor Debate — November 30, 1990

86th General Assembly (1989-1990) · Legislative day 146 · Regular Session
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Speaker Breslin

"The hour of ten o'clock having arrived, the House will come to order. I would ask Members to be in their seats. The chaplain for today is Pastor Richard Houg of the First Baptist Church in Pana. Pastor Houg is the guest of Representative Noland. We invite our guests in the gallery to rise and join us for the invocation."

Pastor Houg

"Our Father, we read in scripture, 'Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.' And we humbly bow this morning in Your presence, and we thank You for the beauty of the day. And we acknowledge, Lord, how that You are the God of the universe, and appeal to You today, Lord, to reach down and to demonstrate Your faithfulness in the lives of these Legislators. We pray that You'll lead them in a very special way as they address various issues today, and bless in their deliberations and in any decisions, Lord, that are made. We thank You, Father, today above all, for the blessings which are ours in the land of the free and the home of the brave. And we make our prayer together in the name of our living Lord Jesus and for his sake. Amen."

Speaker Breslin

"Representative Frederick, would you lead us in the pledge, please?" Frederick, et al: "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Speaker Breslin

"Roll Call for Attendance. Is there any excused absences from the Democratic side of the aisle? Representative McGann."

McGann

"On this date, we have one excused absence, John... Representative John Matijevich."

Speaker Breslin

"Thank you, Representative McGann. On the 1 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 Re...Representative Kubik."

Kubik

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Let the record reflect that Representative Hasara and Wojcik are excused today."

Speaker Breslin

"Hasara and..."

Kubik

"Wojcik."

Speaker Breslin

"Wojcik. Okay, thank you. Mr. Clerk, take the record. One hundred and fifteen people answering the Roll Call. A quorum is present. Is Representative Currie in the chamber? Representative Currie, we are prepared...Okay, thank you. As soon as Representative Currie gets back, we want to go to Senate Bills Third Reading, 1086. There are a number of Amendments on the Bill, so if you are a Sponsor of those Amendments, please be prepared. Senate Bills Third Reading appear on page 2 on your Calendar. Senate Bill 1086, Representative Currie. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Leone

"Senate Bill 1086, a Bill for An Act to amend the Illinois Low-Level Radioactive Waste Management Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

Speaker Breslin

"Representative Currie."

Currie

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. May I have leave to return this Bill to Second Reading for purposes of Amendment?"

Speaker Breslin

"The Lady asks leave to return the Bill to Second for Amendments. Is there any objection? Hearing no objection, leave is granted. Are there any Amendments filed, Mr. Clerk?"

Leone

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Hicks."

Speaker Breslin

"Mr. Hicks."

Currie

"Can I have leave to carry...to offer the Amendment in Representative Hicks behalf?"

Speaker Breslin

"Representative Hicks is absent. Does the Lady 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 have leave to offer the Amendment on his behalf? Is there any objection? There being no objection, proceed, Representative Currie."

Currie

"It's my understanding that legislation we passed last year that deals with insurance funds for leaking underground storage tanks, included some language that has caused a problem with implementation before the Pollution Control Board. So, this Amendment would make a technical correction in that Bill we adopted last year, and the language is acceptable to the Pollution Control Board and to the Environmental Protection Agency, as well as to those who are involved in the oil tank storage industry."

Speaker Breslin

"The Lady moves the adoption of Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 1086, and on that question, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Coles, Representative Weaver."

Weaver

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Breslin

"She will."

Weaver

"Representative, to your knowledge is this a Fire Marshal Bill... Administration Bill?"

Currie

"I think that the...that the proposal started with petroleum marketers because there was a dispute in the Pollution Control Board about the wording of last year's statute. So it's my understanding that everybody is...that the Fire Marshal, the Pollution Control Board, the EPA, the industry, have all agreed that this technical clarification will solve the problem."

Weaver

"Thank you very much."

Speaker Breslin

"Any further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment 1 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment's adopted. Are there 3 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 any further Amendments?"

Leone

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Balanoff."

Speaker Breslin

"Representative Balanoff."

Balanoff

"Madam Chairman (sic - Speaker), Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1086 would provide that no matter what the Nuclear Regulatory Commission does regarding below regulatory concern radioactive waste, that the State of Illinois would continue to be able to regulate it. What's happening is, that...and I testified at a hearing earlier this year of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission as did Governor-elect Jim Edgar and he said the same thing, that we should be able to, as a state, continue to regulate it. What the possibilities are, if below regulatory concern radioactive waste are deregulated, that much radioactive waste could end up in ordinary landfills, in sewage treatment, in contaminating recycling streams and incinerators. Firefighters would be endangered because even the knowledge that a fire was radioactive would no longer be available. And what the possibilities are, are that every landfill, every incinerator all over the place, we could be spreading radioactive waste. And if there was a large concentration of it in one area, you could be creating unknowingly a radioactive dump. At any rate, I just move for the adoption of Amendment #2."

Speaker Breslin

"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment 2 to Senate Bill 1086. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Kulas."

Kulas

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Since Amendment #1 changes the Bill, I'll question the germaneness of Amendment #2."

Speaker Breslin

"Mr. Clerk, would you give us a copy of the Amendment? While we are looking at it, Representative 4 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 Black: Black, did you have any other comments to make?" "Well, yes I do, Madam Speaker, and thank you very much. It was my understanding yesterday, in discussion with the Bill's Sponsor, that this Bill would be kept clean of...and I from any may have made a misunderstanding. If I do, I apologize, but it was my understanding that we keep this Bill clean low-level nuclear or radioactive Amendments at this time. I think the Gentleman's Amendment is premature. Nothing has happened at the federal level. The Department of Nuclear Safety is not in favor of the Gentleman's Amendment at this time, and I think it's just simply premature to attach it to a Bill that I thought we had agreed to yesterday, would be kept clear from low-level radioactive Amendments and language because it's a very important issue in some downstate districts. If the Gentleman persists in the Amendment, we'll ask for a Roll Call vote and I will also seek a verification should it get the requisite number of votes."

Speaker Breslin

"Representative Balanoff, unfortunately it is the ruling of the Chair that your Amendment is not germane just because Amendment #1 deleted everything after the enacting clause. So, the Amendment is not germane. Are there any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

Leone

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Phelps." "Representative Phelps."

Speaker Breslin

Phelps

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment 3 agrees with the amendatory veto language of the Governor to increase the coal-tech fund annually. And we sent more money in another Bill over to the Senate that failed, so this actually agrees with the amendatory veto language of the Governor. I'd appreciate your support." 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day

Speaker Breslin

November 30, 1990 "You have heard the Gentleman's Motion. On that Motion, is there any discussion? Any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment 3 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

Leone

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Phelps."

Speaker Breslin

"Representative Phelps."

Phelps

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Withdraw Amendment 4, please."

Speaker Breslin

"Withdraw #4. Any further Amendments?"

Leone

"There's no further Amendments."

Speaker Breslin

"Third Reading. Representative Currie."

Currie

"I would ask leave to hear the Bill on Third Reading at this time."

Speaker Breslin

"The Lady asks leave to have immediate consideration of Senate Bill 1086 as amended today. On that question, Representative Black."

Black

"Excuse me, Madam Speaker. Inquiry of the Chair."

Speaker Breslin

"Yes."

Black

"Amendment #4, did we act on that or was it withdrawn?"

Speaker Breslin

"It was withdrawn."

Black

"Thank you."

Speaker Breslin

"So, the Amend...the Bill only has Amendment 1 and Amendment 3. Hearing no objection, leave is granted. Representative Currie is recognized to present the Bill."

Currie

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. As amended, the Bill does two things. It clears up the problem of the leaking underground storage tanks in a manner suitable to state government and to the industry, and it provides for support for coal research and development, et al the Governor's Amendatory Veto of 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 Representative Phelps' House Bill 3585. I'd be happy to answer any questions and I'd certainly appreciate your support."

Speaker Breslin

"The Lady has moved the passage of Senate Bill 1086, as amended. Is there any discussion? Any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 108...' Excuse me. The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Parke."

Parke

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would just ask a question of the Sponsor on the proposed costs to the State of Illinois and was the veto by the Governor based on any financial considerations or was it just a matter of the Bill itself?"

Currie

"The Bill is...the coal development research program, as passed by the Legislature, established a higher sum of the 1/64th of the public utilities fund to go into coal research and development than the Governor found acceptable. So, the Governor changed the Bill by establishing a lower cap than that that had originally been approved by the Assembly. So the cap that's in this current proposal is that that was approved by the Governor in his Amendatory Veto."

Parke

"Thank you for the good explanation."

Speaker Breslin

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1086 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all...have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 112 voting 'aye', none voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. Representative Black is recognized for an agreed Motion."

Black

"Well, thank you very much, Madam Speaker. We've checked with both sides of the aisle. We simply would like to 7 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 bypass committee and place House Resolution 2419 on the agreed list. I don't think there are any objections whatsoever to this, and we would appreciate your favorable action on our request."

Speaker Breslin

"You have heard the Gentleman's Motion. Is there any objection? Hearing no objection, leave is granted by use of the Attendance Roll Call. Agreed Resolutions."

Leone

"House Resolution 2436, Giglio; 2437, Curran; 2438, Hultgren; 2439, Flinn; 2442, William Peterson and 2443, Representative Giorgi, et al."

Speaker Breslin

"Representative Giorgi moves the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it, the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Death Resolutions."

Leone

"House Resolution 2444, offered by Representative Shaw, in respect to the memory of Will E. Hayes (sic Mays); House Resolution 2445, offered by Representative Shaw, in respect to the memory of Tyrone Flemings; House Resolution 2446, offered by Representative Shaw, in respect to the memory of Fred Lloyd."

Speaker Breslin

"Representative Giorgi moves the adoption of the Death Resolutions. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it and the Death Resolution is (sic Resolutions are) adopted. Agreed Resolutions."

Leone

"House Resolution 2419, offered by Representative Black, et al."

Speaker Breslin

"Representative Black moves the adoption of the Agreed Resolution. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it and the Resolution is adopted. I would like to recognize Commissioner Bill Harris who is with us. A former Member 8 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day of the Illinois Senate. Harris...Commissioner Harris. November 30, 1990 Welcome. Senator Retiring Commissioner Harris. Representative Currie, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

Currie

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. I didn't do a Resolution for Representative Bowman, but I would ask you to join me in bidding a fond farewell to my seatmate and my best buddy, Woody, who's leaving us after 14 years. Woody was the fellow who showed me the ropes in Springfield. He explained to me what a really progressive agenda is. I came as a conservative, but under his guidance, I quickly became a far out radical of the most left-leaning persuasions. Woody has done a lot for the people of this state in his 14 years in this Legislature. He's fought for civil rights and civil liberties. He's worked hard to make life a little easier for the people who are on the welfare rolls, for the people who are in our mental institutions, for the children who are under the care of our state agency. He has a PHD in economics, and the opportunity to run the Appropriations II Committee was right up his alley. Woody did a superb job of managing his half of the state budget, and in fact, he gave us some very good ideas for reforming the state budgeting process. He introduced, you'll remember, the budget reform program last year. He had many more Co-sponsors on that Bill than were required to pass it. In fact, there were only 5 people who opposed that Bill, unfortunately, they were the Governor, Speaker Madigan, Minority Leader Daniels, President Rock and Minority Leader Philip. It's bittersweet to see Woody on his way out. He's already got a speeding ticket on the state highways, so he knows what it will be like once he doesn't even have legislative plates to rely upon. He made the discovery just this week that retiring Legislators are 9 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 not eligible for unemployment insurance benefits. So, if anyone has a germane Conference Committee Report available in these waning days of this General Assembly, perhaps we can fix it up for him. But on the other hand there are some goodies in store for him too. He leaves with five boxes of plaques and awards for all the good work he's done for the people, and he's made the discovery that some pension changes adopted about ten years ago were crafted in a way that he couldn't have done a better job himself. We will miss Woody. He's been good for us as an institution. He's done wonderful things for the people of the state. I personally will miss him very, very much indeed, and I hope you'll join me in bidding a fond farewell to our good pal, Woody Bowman."

Speaker Breslin

"I second that Motion, Representative Bowman. Representative Bowman."

Bowman

"Yes. Since we have a lot of departing Members and we'll undoubtedly have many speeches ahead of us, I might just short-circuit things by giving my reply right now. I'm...so, I just wanted to alert all of you, this is indeed my last speech. I've done my last Bill..."

Speaker Breslin

"You promise."

Bowman

"...My last Amendment, my last Conference Committee Report and now this is my last speech. I want to thank Barbara, my seatmate of many years. I will really and truly miss our moments on the floor just talking politics, analyzing legislation and trying to figure out why certain things are happening that seem particularly strange and there are a lot of strange things that happen and consequently a lot of mind games that we play here. And I will miss her and my seatmate Ellis Levin who has a nearby district that we worked together on a lot of local legislation. I want to thank all of you for being my 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 colleagues for these many years. The accolades from Barbara are all the sweeter because she is a Lady and a Legislator I deeply respect, as I respect all of you. We are all individuals, but we are all Representatives of districts and all of you represent areas that I've come to know well. I, after all, ran for statewide office. I've visited many of your districts and we are all part of a common statewide family. It's like John Dunn said. Not this one but the real John Dunn, the poet, said, 'No man is an island.' And we're all part of one another. But my work here is accomplished and I'm...as it says in Ecclesiastes, 'For everything there is a season and a time for every purpose under heaven.' And so I decided to leave the Legislature before making a decision to run for statewide office. I want to thank everybody for the help that they gave me in that effort. I even got some help from some of my Republican friends. And I do appreciate all the help that I received there. I have no regrets about that, even though I did lose. It would have been nice to win. But as Browning said, 'Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's heaven for.' And so now as I leave this place to reach out for another temporal heaven, I don't know what it will be. I do hope that before we adjourn, we can use Representative McPike's 'UI' vehicle to add a provision for unemployed Legislators. But in any event let me just leave you with a quote. It's become traditional, I guess, for departing Legislators to dig up obscure quotes about politics and about the process. So let me leave this with you from a gentleman named 'Rousieu' who wrote the social contract, provided the foundation for...the intellectual foundation for the American Revolution and our constitutional experiment. He said, 'It is not only through law that keeps the state 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 alive, it is through the legislative power. The legislative power is the heart of the state, the executive power is the brain. The brain may become paralyzed and the individual still live. A man can be an imbecile and survive, but as soon as his heart stops functioning the creature is dead.' You, my friends, are the heart of the state and I salute you and your continued efforts to keep this great state alive and moving ahead. Now I'm going to leave you with one last quote. It's going to be inscribed on a cake. I have arranged for a cake to be brought over. It'll be available in the Speaker's conference room in a few minutes. And there's a quote from Shakespeare there. 'Parting is sweet sorrow.' I will miss you all. But if you have some of that cake, you'll add an extra inch to your waistline. So you may remember me for a long time to come. Thank you."

Speaker Breslin

"You can't short-circuit us, Representative Bowman. Representative Ryder is recognized."

Ryder

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I apologize for my tardiness in not being available to speak before all of the quotes of Representative Bowman. It's been my pleasure to serve with Representative Bowman on several committees, including the Appropriations Committee. In fact, recently we had an opportunity to make a list of those minority spokesmen who had had the pleasure of serving on Appropriations II with Woods Bowman. Since he's had that office since 1982, he has served with minority spokesman Jim Reilly who's gone on to a very well-paying job with the McCormick Place Exposition Authority, minority spokesman Dennis Hastert, who's now a Congressman, minority spokesman Mike Tate, who as you know is now an executive with an association here in Springfield, myself and Ron Stephens. Through that all, 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 there is not a person in this Assembly who has the heart and the compassion that Woods Bowman has. No one cares more deeply about that in which he is committed than Woods Bowman. There were times in which that literally bubbled over and he physically would...would be shaking because of the deepness of his feeling, in Appropriations Committee, when people wouldn't share the direction that he had. Through it all he's been an honorable person, a person that has done good things for the constituency that he represents. I'm not very good at these kinds of speeches, but I think it's appropriate that I wish best wishes to Woods for his future and to tell him that my experience has been better for the opportunity to serve with him. Thank you."

Speaker Breslin

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

Leverenz

"Well, thank you, Madam Speaker. I generally don't rise to talk about anybody, but this Gentleman needs a remark or two. For the period that he has served with us and held the position of Chairman of Appropriations II, I know no better advocate for those who have concerns in the area of human services and education, and he has done a remarkable job for them. Probably better than any other person in the Capitol on this side of the rotunda. So, we wish him best wishes in whatever he does. He has something we all dream about. I asked him two days ago, what are you going to do? He says, 'I don't know.' So now he at least...we know he has nothing to worry about and he can enjoy the holidays. But if we can ever help him, I'm sure we will all stand tall for Woody Bowman. Thank you."

Speaker Breslin

"The Gentleman from Livingston, Representative Ewing."

Ewing

"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I've 13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 known Representative Bowman ever since he came into this Body, and we have worked together on a number of committees. Sometimes jokingly we have said that if we voted on the same side of the issue, one of us was wrong. Now that certainly is not a reflection on the ideals and the philosophy of Woods Bowman. It just means that we sometimes look at things differently. And that's the great part about serving in this General Assembly, you don't have to agree with someone all of the time to make them your friend, to be a colleague who you can respect to the utmost. And I have the utmost respect for Woods Bowman and the work he's done here, and I personally wish him the very best in the future. Thank you."

Speaker Breslin

"The Gentleman from Macon, Representative Dunn."

Dunn

"Well, Woody, these speeches sometimes run on and on and get kind of syrupy. And I suppose I should just say what I really feel, and that is, that I respect you as much as any Member I have ever met in this General Assembly. I'd like to consider you a friend and I wish you the very, very best."

Speaker Breslin

"The Lady from Champaign, Representative Satterthwaite."

Satterthwaite

"Madam Speaker and Members of the House, I, too, want to add my words of regret that we will no longer have Representative Bowman among our numbers. I think that we have all shared through the appropriations process and through many other means within the House with a lot of very frustrating kinds of events and also some very pleasurable events. I won't say that Woods has always kept an even temper. There have been times when it has shown that his emotion was really high on issues of great concern to him. You may remember that Woods was one of the people who was very supportive of the 'leco-tech' program. And 14 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 so, Woods, if you don't find immediate employment in other areas, maybe you can go visit the 'leco-tech' centers and have a lot of fun with those toys. We do wish you well and hope that you will be back often to visit with us and to share what happens in your future, because we know that that will be very productive too."

Speaker Breslin

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Levin."

Levin

"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I am very saddened to get up and talk about Woody, because Woody is clearly the person down here who has been closest to me. We started together. We were elected together in 1976. We had our offices together. We sat near each other. People have had great difficulty telling us apart, particularly in the way we vote. But Woody has been a very sincere individual, very hard working individual. And I've got to tell you that this last spring when Woody wasn't around because of the illness in his family, and he spent much of his time in West Virginia, I began to feel an absence, a void, even though he wasn't gone, just because of the fact he was here so little this last spring. To me it's going to be very, very difficult to face the next General Assembly without this person who has been there as long as I have. In fact, he's...here longer than I was. He's been here straight through. I had a two year vacation from 1978 to 1980. I do know at this point that Woody is working on the transition team for our new county board president, Dick Phelan. And I know my office, last summer, suggested that Dick Phelan could do...could really make a good decision if he made Woody economic czar of Cook County. I hear that's a good possibility. And I know we're going to be hearing a lot more from Woody. And we're just going to miss him and it's going to be a real void without Woody here." 15 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990

Speaker Breslin

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Parcells."

Parcells

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Woody Bowman's district is just south of mine and I can tell you there isn't a Member in this House that's better loved in his district. He does a terrific job and they will miss him, I'm sure, as we will too. Woody and I share the Village of Willmette and we have appeared before many groups there on the same panel. I think no one is more surprised than Woody and I when at one particular meeting we agreed on every issue. I think to most of you here we represent the two farthest ends of a political, philosophical spectrum, and yet at this particular meeting, on the big points, we were in complete agreement. I will miss Woody. And one particular issue which he and I have been fighting here, and it's one less of us to fight a particular issue which he and I have taken up the banner and I will miss his counsel in that, and will have to carry on alone with only one or two others who also have a problem with this particular thing. I think most of all I respect Woody for his deep commitment to his political philosophy, whether...even though it's very different than mine. He has been true to it. He is undyingly true to that philosophy in which he believes, and for that he has the respect of every one of us here. We wish you well. We hope you will find a wonderful life outside of the Legislature and I hope to see you often up in the district."

Speaker Breslin

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Preston."

Preston

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Woody Bowman is one of our colleagues, one of our Members, who without whom this process is going to be much the weaker, much the poorer and much the less able to 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day properly function. we all know November 30, 1990 No one individual is irreplaceable and that, but in the case of Bowman, the case of Woody, if we look at the kind of credentials that he brings and the kind of intellect that he brings to our Legislative Body with degrees in physics and public administration from Massachusetts Institute of Technology, a PHD degree in economics from Syracuse University, a professor of economics, a person who has given such incredible commitment and devotion of his time, his efforts and his energy to his legislative duties, that kind of an individual is not... not only easily replaced, but one that frankly is quite impossible to replace. We'll muddle along, Woody, but we won't be able to get along as well without you as we have in many, many areas as we have been able to with you. I wish you and Michelle every very best wish on your future which I know will be as bright, and in fact far brighter, than your career has been up until now. Best wishes to you and to your family. Next time don't work a precinct against me."

Speaker Breslin

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Rice."

Rice

"Representative Bowman, since my coming to this Assembly in 1983, I consider you as a mentor in the affairs of the Appropriations II Committee. And most assuredly you've been my friend other than that. I give my respect and my regards to you and your family and for your forthcoming endeavors."

Speaker Breslin

"The Lady from Lake, Representative Stern."

Stern

"Madam Speaker and Members of the House, I am going to miss Woody personally, and this Body is going to miss the presence of that great heart and great compassion. He is an unusual human being. When I came here in 1985, I was the most notorious freshman, having just gotten off the hustings for Lieutenant Governor, and everyone assumed I 17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 I knew something. I knew nothing. I didn't know Room 112 from D-2 and was floundering about very seriously. Woody and I each had half of Betty Price as our secretary and I didn't know what to do with the half that I had. And had it not been for Woody, I never would have learned how to find my way around in Springfield. He went down fighting, I don't need to tell you. I was his state chair for state comptroller and perhaps made the blunder of saying on radio that if there was ever someone born to be comptroller, it was Woods Bowman. The members of that panel thought that was a hilarious statement. I thought it was exactly accurate. I hate to see him go. I care about him as a friend, and he is probably the nicest human being in this chamber. Goodbye, Woody. We'll have dinner when we get back, right? Good luck."

Speaker Breslin

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Davis."

Davis

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'm glad I'm following Grace Mary Stern, because every time Woods Bowman spoke she would say to me, 'That is a fine Gentleman.' As a Member of your House Appropriations Committee and as a freshman in the Legislature, I certainly want to thank you and commend you for the time that you spent explaining to me just how this process works. I want to commend you also on many times being a part of, whatever this big word you used was, the 'verbiage' of this female, whatever, I'm sure Representative Currie knows what I'm talking about, when people listened to us as we debated the issues of dividing up the pie. Woods, it was also very enjoyable to campaign with you on the south side of Chicago. And the residents in my area will certainly remember you. And sometimes when you think you've lost, you've actually won, Woody, because I'm sure for you there are much better things to come." 18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day

Speaker Breslin

"The Lady from St. Clair, Representative Younge."

Younge

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. Woody, I'm going to miss you. Thank you for all of your help."

Speaker Breslin

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Williams."

Williams

"Well, I just rise to let people know that Woody Bowman makes it possible for me to have made a great statement here when he explained his conflict of interest as it relates to his wife's working with the U of I. He made it very possible for me to get by with the statement 'ditto' on the record. So, for everything else everyone has said in commemoration of the great work of Woody Bowman, I'd like to say, 'ditto' again to you, Woody. Good luck."

Speaker Breslin

"I told you you couldn't short-circuit us, Representative Bowman, you will be missed. Thank you. Representative Bowman."

Bowman

"Well, I thought I had given my reply already, but apparently I may go down as the only Legislator to have spoken in debate on his own living eulogy. So, as I promised, that was my last speech. So I will simply make a final announcement. I would like to introduce to the chamber the new Representative from the 4th representative district, Evanston, Chicago, Willmette, Janice D. (Jan) Schakowsky. And don't forget about the cake. If it's not back in the Speaker's conference room now, it will be very shortly."

Speaker Breslin

"Representative Laurino in the Chair."

Speaker Laurino

"House Resolutions, Mr. Clerk."

Leone

"House Resolution 2449. 'WHEREAS, It is with respect and great fondness that this body bids farewell to our esteemed colleague, Representative Robert M. 19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 Terzich, who retires after two decades of distinguished public service; and WHEREAS, A native of Chicago, Illinois, and a veteran of the United States Navy, Representative Terzich has been employed as a firefighter but eventually expanded the nature of his community involvement to include elected office; and WHEREAS, A Democrat held in high regard on both sides of the political aisle, Representative Robert Terzich has ably represented the residents of the Twenty-Seventh, Twenty-Fifth and Forty-Eighth Districts since 1971, encompassing the Seventy-Seventh through Eighty-Sixth General Assemblies; and WHEREAS, During his lengthy tenure, Representative Terzich has displayed his leadership and political acumen as chairman of the Law Revision Commission and the House Executive Committee and member of the House Committees on Counties and Townships, Financial Institutions, Transportation and Motor Vehicles, and Implementation of Chicago School Reform; and WHEREAS, The citizens of Illinois have been fortunate indeed as the beneficiaries of Representative Terzich's gifted career of devoted government service; therefore be it RESOLVED, BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE EIGHTY-SIXTH GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, that we congratulate Representative Robert Terzich upon his impending retirement as a member of the Illinois General Assembly, commending him upon twenty years of noble service to the people of this State as a skilled and tireless legislator, and that we convey our best wishes for his happiness and success in every future endeavor; and be it further RESOLVED, That a suitable copy of this resolution be presented to Representative Robert M. Terzich.'" 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day

Speaker Laurino

Capparelli

"Mr. November 30, 1990 "On the Resolution, Representative Capparelli." Speaker, I would ask leave to have everybody's name put on this Resolution for my dear friend, Bob Terzich. I met Bob Terzich twenty years ago. Laurino was sitting there, I believe, and Madigan was here and Bob was right behind me where Brunsvold sits now. And I asked Bob on that day if he ever played racquetball and he said 'no'. And I taught him the game and he got so good and started beating me, so I gave up the game then. But Bob's got his PHD from the fire department where he's an engineer. And he's roomed with me for twenty years and I can honestly say those were a great twenty years. He's been a very faithful and good friend. He's been part of my family, and when my kids grew up they called him Uncle Bob and his children called me Uncle Ralph. He's part of the Capparelli family. And he also joined a great Croation team down here at that time, which was John Matijevich and himself. And that was a great team and it still goes on now. We have one more, we've got Pam Munizzi who's half Croation, right? Bob, I want you to know that I certainly will miss you and I hope you'll be down here. But I wish you all the best luck and most success in the whole world, cause you'll always be my dear friend."

Speaker Laurino

"Further discussion? Representative Flinn."

Flinn

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to salute Bob Terzich. I, too, came in the same class with Bob twenty years ago, and to say that Bob is a strong minded person is the understatement of the day. A fellow asked me one time about getting Bob Terzich to sponsor his Bill. And he said, 'I'm not really acquainted with him, what kind of guy is he?' I said, I'll tell you what, if Bob Terzich sponsors your Bill, you'll have a person that will push 21 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 with all of his might, with all of his strength and power, to pass your Bill. Bob has done a whole lot for us here and I suspect in some cases, did not get the proper credit. He's brought to the attention of us the health problem of smoking over and over and again. And right today there's no smoking allowed either on this floor or in the committee rooms, and it's all because of the push that Bob Terzich put forward himself. Bob, I would like to say to you personally, we're all going to miss you here and I hope you come back and visit us occasionally."

Speaker Laurino

"The Gentleman from McLean, Representative Ropp."

Ropp

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. First of all, Mr. Speaker, would you ask...I thought it wasn't until January 9th that some of us on this side of the aisle were going to lose our seats and desks. Part of my...Mr. Speaker, you're not listening. Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Laurino

"Yes, Sir."

Ropp

"I wanted to mention beforehand that I thought it was like the 9th of January that we were to lose some of our Republican seats. I have already lost part of my seat already. Can you find out where it is? The cushion is gone. No one seems to know. Is this kind of a slow way of kind of slipping us away or...I don't know really...I don't know which side of the aisle to look. To that side or maybe...do I look on my own side of the aisle, maybe. I don't know. Anyway, if someone...if someone knows where that is, I could at least sit on it for the rest of this day, maybe. But I would like to say to Representative Terzich that I have admired your somewhat talented abilities in the outfield when the House would play the Senate. And you have always, on a couple of occasions, even won the game. That was probably your most memorable 22 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 event here in the General Assembly, and for that we want to congratulate you. I would also say, I think you have probably been the foremost individual in attempting to have this chamber free of smoke and I commend you for that. I think the chamber is a healthier environment as your result, and I'm sure as you now move out into the world, you'll either be more exposed to smoke or hopefully less, because of your efforts here in this chamber. So, we extend to you the very best on your retirement. Good wishes. And I have always felt that you have been a friend and have enjoyed many occasions helping you sponsor some legislation. And I hope that you just don't leave, that you come back, and I, too, will be up to see you on occasion. Bob, good luck."

Speaker Laurino

"Gordy, I didn't want to tell you before you started your remarks, but I believe Terzich has your seat."

Ropp

"I see."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Olson." Olson, M.: "Well, thank you and good morning to everyone. I wish to add my two remarks about Representative Terzich, who was the Chairman of the famed and now long defunct Law Revision Commission. And when I came here in 1981, while that was an onerous task that now has to be done by a variety of people, Bob Terzich carried that off very well. An outstanding Chairman of the Executive Committee who always gave everybody a fair hearing. And Robert, we're going to miss you. And those of us on this side of the aisle will always have a fond memory of the good roll that you played for your constituency, and at the same time, looked out for the interests of us all. Good luck to you."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Bugielski."

Bugielski

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'd like to thank Bob Terzich for all the years 23 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 that he's put in over here. He's been a great help to me. He's helped me out when I first came down. He guided me, he let me know what was going on. We're going to miss him. He introduced many fine pieces of legislation, got them passed into law. I know the firefighters for the State of Illinois are going to miss him, because he really fought for them. He's going to leave all that on the shoulders of Don Saltsman now to carry for him. We hope to see him come back down here and visit us every once in a while. And I'm sure next year if someone tries to repeal the Illinois Indoor Clean Air Act, that he will be down to fight for...to get it back in because of all the work that he's done on that issue. But, Bob, we'd just like to wish you the best in your retirement. I wish you the best along with you and I hope you have a very good time. Thank you."

Speaker Laurino

"Thank you, Representative Bugielski. Further remarks, Representative Parcells."

Parcells

"Thank you, Mr. Chairman (sic Speaker). I would just like to thank Bob Terzich who as the Chairman of the Executive Committee was always very fair and respectful to me as a minority spokesman. That means a lot to those of us who are the minority spokesmen, to have that respect and fair treatment and I really appreciate it. I'd like to thank Bob for something else. One day about two or three years ago, he saw me staring at his brand new red Corvette and he said, 'Would you like to drive it?'. And we went out for a little test ride and I had a ball out on 55 with his beautiful red Corvette. I wish you well, Bob, in the future. I hope you'll come back and visit us. And if you get any new test...beautiful sports cars that you'd like test driven, I'll be happy to do so."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative McAuliffe. Representative, go to Representative Goforth's desk." 24 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 146th Legislative Day

McAuliffe

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I just wanted to tell Bob how much I'll miss dining with him in Springfield and all the wonderful jokes that he always tells. It'll be a big loss to all of us that eat together, we won't have Bob to tell us all of his funny stories. But also I want to thank him, because if it wasn't for Bob eighteen years ago who reminded me that I could get back on the police department, I wouldn't have a job today when we're not in Springfield. I thank him very much for that. We're all going to miss him down here."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Santiago."

Santiago

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Bob, we're going to miss you. I I especially am going to miss your funny stories and, you know what, was the only guy that ever laughed at your jokes. No, you're a good friend. I wish you the very best and we will miss you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Barnes."

Barnes

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. It was indeed my pleasure sixteen years ago to meet Bob Terzich when we were on Executive Committee together. And Ralph was also a Member of that. And then we roomed next door together up at the Lincoln Towers, and I became very fortunate to become a member of the supper club and have at least dined with him at least once a week in Springfield. Bob is a true, true friend. Those of you that have dined with them know that he and Ralph are often...often named the odd couple. And I know that Ralph is going miss him because he hasn't even been criticizing him lately. Bob, you're a very good friend. It was a pleasure to represent the southwest side of Cook County with you, and may you come back many, many times to visit us. Goodbye, dear." Speaker Laurino: to "Representative Saltsman." 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day

Saltsman

"Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman November 30, 1990 I (sic Speaker). first met Bob back in 1969 when I became president of the firefighter's union in Peoria and I was down here lobbying for collective bargaining and for pension benefits for downstate firefighters. And I put a lot of hours in with Bob comparing downstate and Chicago systems and what we could do to better them and still not be too tough on the taxpayers, at the same time to get people what they deserve. He spent a lot of hours on the Pension Committee. He did a great job. He had a great knowledge of all the pension systems. And I went on the Pension Committee when he left and took Executive, because I think he got burned out with all the hours and time that he devoted to try to work with our nine state pension systems. So from all the different pension systems, Bob, from the Employees, our university systems and so on, I know that they all want to thank you for all the hours and time that you put in in your early years in the General Assembly, and now our competition with police officers to see who can get the most people in the General Assembly. Why when Wayne Goforth came he tied it at two apiece, and now you and Wayne are leaving at the same time and left me and Roger by ourselves. So we'll stay here to pick up the load. And good luck in your future endeavors. You've been great for the General Assembly. And I want to thank you for all the knowledge that you've helped me with with the pension systems. Good luck in the future."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Goforth." IMRF to

State Goforth

State Goforth: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Bob, I almost missed this. I was outside smoking a cigarette, thanks to your Bill. Bob, you're one of the most sincere people that I've had the pleasure of knowing down here. Even though I did have to sit at the opposite 26 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 end of the table with you a lot of times, I've certainly enjoyed your friendship and I certainly think that I'm a better person for being able to know you. Thank you very much. Godspeed."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Munizzi."

Munizzi

"I wanted to say on behalf of the Croation minority caucus, we're losing a Member."

Speaker Laurino

"Now you only get a half a Member."

Munizzi

"...caucus of three. We're down to two, unless we have some new Croations coming in. I'm not sure. I'm going to have to do my investigative work. I wanted to thank Bob for the advice and the help that he's given me being a newcomer down here. Very...his jokes were always hysterical and so religious and profound, that we certainly passed the words along to others. I wanted to thank him for his help and wish him well, but I know I'll have the option to see him at least once a year on August 15th for the...croation procession at St. Jerome's Church which all of you are welcome to come to. And I know, Mr. Speaker, you're very interested in attending. Again, I would like to wish you well. Good luck and we'll be seeing you."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Rice."

Rice

"As a Member of your committee since 1983, we've had some bumpy roads, but certainly you're a damn good firefighter with your little red car. Godspeed."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Novak."

Novak

"Mr. Speaker, it's Novak, Representative Novak. is Polish, Novak is Slovanian. Slovanian caucus..."

Speaker Laurino

"What's 'Nowack'?"

Novak

"...Minority Caucus...as a Member of the minority caucus, I'd like to wish well Bob Terzich in his endeavors in the future. Bob has represented my parents on 27 'Noack' As a Member of the Slovanian 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 the southwest side of Chicago for the last twenty years in the 23rd Ward. And, Bob, you've represented my parents well. Every time my mom would call and ask for anything, to get a pothole fixed in the street or get a tree torn down, she'd never get a call back from the alderman, SO she'd have to call your office and you'd take care of everything. But really, no, the alderman does a good job there, but, you've done well in the area and we want to wish you in your endeavors and...and Gene Autry."

Speaker Laurino

"Thank you, Representative Novak. Representative Preston."

Preston

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I want to wish Bob Terzich all the best wishes and Godspeed in his future endeavors. You know, Bob is one of those people who jokes about himself so easily that it's sometimes easy for others around him to not take him as seriously as they ought to on many issues that he's been involved in. He is one of the brightest and most knowledgeable people on insurance legislation, one of the most committed people on consumer protection legislation and has been through the years, and whenever I've had questions on insurance matters, he knows the ins, the outs and the round-abouts of those matters. And he's going to be a loss and I wish him the very best of luck."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Capparelli moves for the adoption of the Resolution. Prior to that, he asked leave of the House for the addition of every Member's name to the Resolution. Does he have leave? Leave being granted...leave is granted. All those in favor...Roll Call has been asked for the addition of the...all Members' names. The Chair overrules those objections. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The Resolution is adopted. Representative Terzich, do you have a response to any of 28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 your fans? Representative Terzich."

Terzich

"I'll be brief. All of those who voted 'no', get the hell out of here. But twenty years, like Henny Youngman would say, 'You know, it only seems like yesterday.' And I don't know what the weather condition was yesterday, but it has been a long time and I appreciate all the friendships. I hope I served my constituency well, and I wish you all the Members well. I...other than that, I don't know what to say. You know, a fireman is your friend, and certainly I'll be around to take care of the firemen, the policemen, the pension benefits and all that other good stuff. But thank you for just letting me be part of your life and you being part of mine. It's been most rewarding. And of course I'm looking forward to the future, and of course my daughter Susanne, my last one, is going to be married tomorrow. So I'm going to get the heck out of here so I can go do a little... let's see, what is that tonight. The church. I got to go walk her down the aisle tomorrow. So, thank you very much for everything and the best of luck to all of you and especially the new Members. You're a wonderful Body and God bless all of you. Thank you very much."

Speaker Laurino

"Messages from the Senate."

Leone

"A Message from the Senate by Ms. Hawker, Secretary. 'Mr. Speaker, I'm directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has refused to concur with the House in the adoption of their Amendments to the following Bills, to wit; Senate Bill 1310.' And further Message from the Senate by Ms Hawker, Secretary. 'Mr. Speaker, I'm directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has concurred in the House...in the passage of the following Bills together with Amendments, and the adoption of which I'm instructed to ask 29 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 concurrence of the House of Representatives to wit; House Bills 2867 and 3037.' A further Message from the Senate by Ms Hawker, Secretary. 'Mr. Speaker, I'm directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has concurred in the House...in the passage of Bills of the following title; House Bill 2570, together with the attached Amendments hereto, and the adoption of which I'm instructed to ask concurrence of the House of Representatives to wit; passed the Senate as amended, November 30th, 1990. Linda Hawker, Secretary'"

Speaker Laurino

"The Chair will now proceed to House Calendar... Supplemental Calendar #1. For what reason does the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz, arise?"

Leverenz

"Sir, I have an inquiry of the Chair."

Speaker Laurino

"You weren't recognized for that purpose."

Leverenz

"Now?"

Speaker Laurino

"Now."

Leverenz

"Now, really?"

Speaker Laurino

"Go ahead, what's your inquiry?"

Leverenz

"Now?"

Speaker Laurino

"Yeah, go ahead, what's your inquiry?"

Leverenz

"Well, Sir, it's clear to me that you don't know how to play the game, but since you invited this, I move the House stand adjourned, so we can go home with the Senate."

Speaker Laurino

"I must be clairvoyant. I thought I didn't recognize you for that purpose. Resolutions. Mr. Clerk,"

Leone

"House Resolution 2441, offered by Representative Daniels, et al. 'WHEREAS, Anne Zickus has been a compassionate state representative who worked diligently to solve the problems facing the people of the 47th House District; and WHEREAS, in her tenure, Rep. Zickus demonstrated a strong 30 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 dedication to public service, always committing long hours to constituent service; and WHEREAS, the sincere humanitarian perspective she brought to the legislature will be sorely missed in the House Republican caucus ranks; and WHEREAS, Rep. Zickus' positive attitude and endless diligence has been a great inspiration for lawmakers on both sides of the aisle; and WHEREAS, Rep. Zickus has distinguished herself as a legislator of persistence and strong conviction both on the floor of the House and in her assignments on the House Committees of Appropriations II, Cities & Villages, Human Services, Registration & Regulation, and the Select Committee on Aeronautics; and WHEREAS, she has also been active in numerous community organizations including the Illinois Association of Realtors, the Southwest Board of Realtors, the Palos Hills United Way, the Palos Hills chamber of Commerce, the Palos Hills Cancer Society, and the Palos Business and Professional Women's Organization; and WHEREAS, Rep. Zickus' dedication to the highest ideals and standards of her profession and political party exemplify the goals of representative democracy; now therefore be it RESOLVED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE 86TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS that we do hereby express our sincerest gratitude for Anne Zickus' tireless service in the General Assembly on behalf of her community and the state of Illinois; and be it further RESOLVED, that we do hereby express our heartiest best wishes for continued happiness and achievement to our friend and colleague, Anne Zickus; and be it further 31 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 RESOLVED, that suitable copies of this resolution and preamble be humbly presented to Rep. Zickus, her husband Charles and their son and daughter, Chuck and Kathy.'"

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Daniels."

Daniels

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, you've heard many times us talk about our colleagues and how we've been privileged to serve with them, and of course the blessings that we've all had and the opportunity not only to get to know Representative Ann Zickus, but to be able to work with her, to learn about her and her dedication to public service is of course our good fortune. But more so the people of her district, the 47th House district, have benefited from an outstanding Legislator who has cared on a consistent basis for their future and a solution of their problems. When Ann Zickus came to the House, she came with all the ideals and all of the good feelings and all of the dedication of public service that any Member would carry with. But she brought with her also a uniqueness, a compassion, a warm feeling, a warm personality, and a person who was dedicated to the highest ideals in public service. So, Ann, on behalf of all of your friends on this side of the aisle, we send you our best wishes. Godspeed. And remember you are a Member forever of this fraternity called the General Assembly. We thank you for your dedication and we thank you for your friendship. And, Mr. Speaker, I would move for the adoption of this Resolution and ask that all the Members be added as Co-sponsors."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Pullen."

Pullen

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I certainly would like to echo the words just given in tribute to Ann Zickus by our leader. I would like to add a few of my own personal ones. Ann became not only a colleague but also a seatmate just a 32 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 couple of seats away, and those of us in our row are going to especially miss Ann's fellowship, her bright smile, her contact with us day by day in our service in the General Assembly. I know that it's been a tough battle for you, Ann, getting here and leaving, but I'm looking forward to your having another battle and that's the one when you come back, because we all need you here and we appreciate and love you. And I hope that we will have the opportunity to have you with us again as a Member, because we know that you'll always be with us as a friend."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Stephens."

Stephens

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ann, as a fellow target and as a recent casualty of the elections, I know how hard you worked to get here. And we all recognize the difficult process it is to earn a seat here. And, I've got to tell you, we all admire and I especially, the fact that your attitude during your tenure here has been one of cheer and one of brightness and that smile has always been there. As hard as you have worked and as hard as you have labored, and to keep your spirits as they have always been, is an encouragement to all of us. And you are a reflection of the community that you represent and the attitude that makes government worth serving, and I will personally miss you."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Weller."

Weller

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise to wish my seatmate and colleague and friend Godspeed and best wishes for both she and her family and her future. You know, every day that we were in Session I had the pleasure and the privilege of being seated next to Ann and to talk with her about many of the issues that we've faced in this General Assembly. And I personally know of her compassion, her concern, her commitment to her 33 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 constituents and to the people of Illinois. And I'm proud to call Ann a friend and someone I know that will be seen working hard in public service into the many years ahead. Ann, I wish you well. I look forward to seeing you coming back in two years and best wishes to you and all of your family."

Speaker Laurino

"Is...Representative Barger."

Barger

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. One of the great pleasures of serving in the General Assembly over the last two years is the seatmates that I've had the great fortune to be seated between. Ann has brought to us a congenial and a happy attitude and the ability to see that even though we might occasionally lose, that it is not the end of the world, that there is an opportunity to succeed later on. Ann has done a fine job down here. She has put in an exemplary year of...two years of serving the people from her constituency. It's nice to have her as a friend and I shall miss her. Bye, Ann."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Frederick."

Frederick

"Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Ann, I certainly have enjoyed knowing you. You've been a conscientious, a hard working, a dedicated and a thoughtful Legislator. I hope that whatever you decide to do as you leave us, you will be successful and especially if you decide you want to join us again. I wish you the best, Ann. Thank you."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Williamson. Representative, go

Williamson

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To my dear friend Ann, I wish you nothing but the best, nothing but happiness. Through the tough times as being a target as Representative Stephens mentioned, sometimes it's very difficult. But through all the aggravation and the pain that you go 34 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 through in being a target, Ann was always smiling, always upbeat, always happy, always friendly. To some of us as targets, when we would get down and depressed, she was always there to give a happy hug and smile and say it's going to be fine, it's going to be better, hang in there. I wish you happiness, I wish you health, I wish you many, many successful real estate transactions. I send my love to you. I send my love to your husband. And I wish you health and happiness for your sister Adrienne."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Regan."

Regan

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. From the bottom of my heart, Ann, I'm going to miss you. I know that you tried desperately to figure out a way for exploratory procedures to be taken care of on a legitimate basis, and I pledge to you that I will continue that fight even though it may have to be done from the federal level. That's something that I know has to be done and I'm going to continue on doing it. And from the senior target now, I wish you the best of luck."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Parcells."

Parcells

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Sometimes when a new Member comes to the House you don't know them for awhile, but from the moment Ann Zickus and I met, we were fast friends. We worked on a lot of things together. We had a lot of fun together. And I never saw anybody work any harder than she did. When we had a dinner date I always had to wait for her while she'd make that last phone call, write that last letter to a constituent. Ann, I wish you lots of luck in the future. I hope you'll come back. And if you don't come back to visit us here, I'm coming up to visit you in your district."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Doederlein."

Doederlein

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. 35 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 I don't rise often on this floor to give a speech, but I want to tell Ann that I appreciate all of her friendship and I want to thank her very much and wish her the best. Thank you very much."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Daniels moves for the adoption of the Resolution. He has asked for leave of the House that all Members be added. Does he have leave? Leave being granted, he now moves for the adoption of the Resolution. All those in favor indicate by saying 'aye', 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it, the Resolution is adopted. Representative Zickus. Representative, I think you're going to have to get another microphone."

Zickus

"Is it on now?"

Speaker Laurino

"You got it on now? Okay."

Zickus

"Okay. Like the day they switched my 'yes' and 'no' button and I think I know who did it. I would like to thank everybody for the kind words, for your friendship, for your help and for your support during the last two years. It's indeed been a privilege and an honor to be a Member of the Illinois House of Representatives. They say, out of all the disappointing things that happen, that something good comes of it. And I guess the one good thing I could think of is I'm not going to be a target again for awhile. But I do hope and plan that some day I will be back down here and a Member of not the 87th General Assembly, but maybe the 88th. And again, thank you to all of you for your kindness, for your friendship, for your help and your support. It's been a really wonderful experience. I've enjoyed all the new friends that I've made and the opportunities that I've had to help the people in our district and this state. Look forward to seeing you all again and working with you again sometime in the future. Thank you." 36 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day

Speaker Laurino

Turner

November 30, 1990 "The Chair will proceed to the regular Calendar. On page 2, House Bill...Amendment... Senate Bill 1098. Alright, Senate Bill 1523, Representative Turner." "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I move that we accept the Amendatory Veto of Senate Bill 1523."

Speaker Laurino

"You heard the Gentleman's Motion. He moves to accept the Amendment (sic Amendatory Veto) of the Senate Bill 1523. All those in favor indicate by saying 'aye'... Roll Call. Representative Black."

Black

"Well, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I realize the Senate has adjourned and gone home, but I'm sure we can stay all day. If the Gentleman would be SO kind as to enlighten us as to what he is asking us to accept, we'd be most grateful."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Turner."

Turner

"Thank you. that dealt with the driver's education mandate which was Representative Weller's provision that was removed from the Bill. There were two provisions in the Bill; one There was a provision in there with Representative Ropp, which dealt with the education scholarship, the Peace Corp Fellowship Program, and that was also removed from the Bill. Other than that, it deals with the Nurse's Scholarship Act. And there's a provision in there that also deals with the Library Fund which is needed in some of our districts throughout the state. And I think with those two provisions removed, we are willing to accept the Governor's veto message here."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Black."

Black

"Yeah, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

Turner

"Yes."

Black

"Let me just make sure that we're together on this, Art. 37 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day The funding for the their fee structure. November 30, 1990 nursing scholarship will come from Is that correct?"

Turner

"That's correct. And that was...that was on another Bill which has already been sent out of here."

Black

"Okay."

Turner

"I think that was, I believe, Senate Bill 1790 or something. It was on another Bill."

Black

"The State Board of...the State Board of Education grants of two thousand dollars to certain secondary school teachers, is that still in your...the Conference Committee Report here? Or whatever we're accepting."

Turner

"The Governor found that part of it unacceptable, so that has been removed."

Black

"Alright, so in other words all you're doing then is to accept the Governor's Amendatory Veto of this Bill?"

Turner

"Absolutely."

Black

"Okay. Thank you very much."

Speaker Laurino

"You heard the Gentleman's Motion to accept the Amendatory Veto. All those in favor will indicate...will vote 'aye', those opposed will vote 'no'. Board is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. This Motion having received the required Constitutional Majority, the Motion is adopted and the House accepts the Governor's specific recommendations for change. There's 109 voting 'aye', 0 voting 'nay', 4 voting 'present'. On page 2 of the regular Calendar, Senate Bill 1098, Representative Hartke. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

O'Brien

"Senate Bill 1098, a Bill for An Act to amend an Act in relation to the installation of fire hydrants. This Bill has been read a second time previously and Amendment #1 was adopted previously."

Speaker Laurino

"Further Amendments?" 38 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990

O'Brien

"Floor Amendment #2 offered by Representative Richmond... Richland... Richmond-Hartke."

Hartke

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #2 is...I'm handling for Representative Richmond. It's the Amendment that adds the official barbeque championship language for Murphysboro, and this...yeah, this is real pork...anyway, I would ask for your adoption of this Amendment."

Speaker Laurino

"You heard the Gentleman's Motion. All those in favor indicate...is there any discussion? Representative Black. Representative Black, do you have any questions? Is there any discussion, Gentlemen... Ladies and Gentlemen? All those in favor indicate by voting 'aye', those opposed voting 'no'. The Gentleman's Motion to adopt Amendment #2 to House Bill 1098...or Senate Bill 1098, all those in favor indicate by saying 'aye', those opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it, the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

O'Brien

"No further Amendments."

Speaker Laurino

"Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

O'Brien

"Senate Bill 1098, a Bill for An Act to amend an Act in relation to the installation of fire hydrants and in relation to public accommodations and public events. Third Reading of the Bill."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Hartke."

Hartke

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1098 now contains three provisions, and that is; first, the main thrust of the Bill which was the Fire Hydrant Bill which Representative Hannig had discussed earlier. My Amendment which dealt with the hotel/motel fires...smoke alarms and which was discussed yesterday with Representative Black. And then of course today's Amendment which designates Murphysboro as the Illinois State Barbeque Championship area. I would appreciate your support for this piece of 39 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day legislation." November 30, 1990

Speaker Laurino

" Further discussion? Representative Parke."

Parke

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'm somewhat concerned about this Bill. It was my understanding that there was a compromise worked out between the Hotel/Motel Association, the Governor's Office and the Fire Marshal's Office. And in fact, that was the Amendatory Veto on 1619 that was accepted. Now Representative Hartke has reintroduced Amendment 1 which in fact is Senate Bill 1619 without the Amendment. And I think that that is not what we want to see. When an agreement is made, this Body should accept those agreements, and when everybody signs off, we should not come back and say well, I just...my interests are not represented. So I'm going to try again with the original Bill. We should defeat this Bill because it is not the agreement that was made. And I think we should accept when every bod...when all the sides agree to it, we should accept that and not go with it. So I would ask this Body to vote against 10...House...Senate Bill 1098, because it is now preempting the agreement that was made with the majority of the parties that were there. I think this is a bad idea and we should defeat it."

Speaker Laurino

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1098 pass?' All those in favor vote... Representative Black."

Black

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I just simply rise and with all due respect to my colleague and seatmate, Representative Hartke is known as a man of some integrity. If there was an agreement on this Bill, I'm not aware of any such agreement. No one has talked to me from the Fire Marshal's Office. No one has talked to me from the Governor's Office. No one has talked to me from the Fire Chief's Association. Mr. Hartke has been working on this 40 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 Bill for more than one year. Without this Bill you simply are going to put most downstate motels and hotels out of business. If there was an agreement to this Bill, I would ask those parties why didn't they let it be known to this chamber. I simply rise to support Mr. Hartke's Motion. I ask an 'aye' vote on this Bill."

Speaker Laurino

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1098 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'nay'. Voting is open. This is for final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. This Bill having received 101 'ayes'...Representative Madigan, 'aye'. Representative Laurino, 'aye'. The Bill having received 102 'ayes', 7 'nay' and 1 voting 'present', having received the required Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. Chair will go to the Supplemental Calendar #1, Senate Bill 1310, Representative Keane. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

O'Brien

"Senate Bill 1310, a Bill for An Act in relation Keane: to dram shops, together with House Amendments 1 and 2." "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I refuse to recede from House Amendments #1 and 2 and request that a Conference Committee be appointed."

Speaker Laurino

"The Gentleman has moved to recede from Senate Bill...er from...yeah, Senate Bill 1310."

Keane

"Do not recede was the Motion then."

Speaker Laurino

"He moves to refuse to recede."

Keane

"Refuses to recede."

Speaker Laurino

"All those in favor indicate by saying 'aye', opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it."

Keane

"We request a Conference Committee."

Speaker Laurino

"The Gentleman requests a Conference Committee. Proceed to House Bill 3777, Representative Currie. 41 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day Conference Committee Reports." November 30, 1990

Currie

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This Conference Committee has nothing to do with Cook County health care issues. That language has been deleted. But what the Bill would do is...is include, incorporate 4 or 5 different proposals, almost all of which we've seen before. The first has to do with the Illinois Act on the Aging. This is a compromise between the Department and senior advocates that involved a Bill that we voted for in the spring sponsored by Senator Topinka and Representative Lang. What the compromise language would do would be to permit the Department to establish rules regarding centers...multi-purpose senior centers through the area agencies on aging. A second provision of the Bill deals with appointments to the Chicago Medical Center Control and Management Act. That Bill was Senate Bill 2217. A third provision adopts the language of the Governor's Amendatory Veto on Representative Preston and Trotter's House Bill 3580. This has to do with the Blue Ribbon Task Force on Foster Care, so the language in this report is identical to the language that was approved by the Governor in his Amendatory Veto. The issue of child care for state employees, that was the content of Representative Breslin's Bill. There's been an agreement between the Department of Central Management Services and the Governor and the Sponsors of that Bill. That agreement is incorporated in this Conference Committee Report. A proposal from the Department of Central Management Services, which is new us, has...enables the Minority and Female Business Enterprise Council to accept grants and other kinds of award monies and to collect the fees that are paid when people come to the business conferences they support. And finally, the newly elected Secretary of State, George Ryan, to 42 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 was anxious to make it easier to track the ownership of businesses in this state by women and working with the National Women's Business Council, he proposes a change that will make it possible for us to track female business ownership in the State of Illinois. Those are the contents of the report. As I say, most of it you've seen before. I'd be happy to answer your questions and would appreciate your support for this Conference Committee Report."

Speaker Laurino

"Further discussion? The question is, 'Shall the House adopt the Conference Committee Report to Senate Bill 37...or House Bill 3777?' All those in favor vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. Turner 'aye'. Phelps 'aye'. Voting's still open. Take the record, Mr. Clerk. This Conference Committee Report having received 107 'ayes', 0 'nay' and 1 voting 'present', the House does adopt the Conference Committee Report to House Bill 3777 and the Bill having received the required Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. Conference Committee Report to Senate Bill 2309, Representative Young. Anthony Young. Representative Johnson. Tim Johnson."

Johnson

"I'm one of the conferees. With Representative Young's permission, do you want me to handle this? This is a noncontroversial change in the...or clarification of the statute agreed to by the Department of Conservation to provide that PFD's don't apply to sale boards. If there's ever a noncontroversial Bill at this point of the session, this is it."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Johnson moves for the adoption of the Conference Committee Report to Senate Bill 2309. Is there any discussion? Seeing none the question is, 'Shall the House adopt the Conference Committee Report to Senate 43 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 Bill 2309?' All those in favor indicate...will vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Williamson. Explain your vote?"

Williamson

"Mr. Speaker, the buttons are not working on my desk. If we could have an electrician come over and I would like to be recorded as voting 'aye'. Also on the last Bill, 3337, if you would record me as 'aye'."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Harris 'aye'. Representative Williamson, you will be added to this Bill, but the record will show that you were in favor of the preceding Bill. Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. There are 111 'ayes', 0 'nays' and 0 voting 'present'. The House does adopt Conference Committee Report to Senate Bill 2309 and The Bill having received the required Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. On the Speaker's Table, Senate Joint Resolution 147, Representative Kubik. Out of the record. On the Motion, House Bill 3310, Representative Steczo. Out of the record. House Joint Resolution 158, Representative Morrow."

Morrow

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. On House Joint Resolution 148 (sic, 158) we had a problem in trying to get this Resolution discharged yesterday from Committee. We would not pursue House Joint Resolution 158 at this time. Our Members on the other side of the aisle who are Members of the Housing Committee have informed us that next year there will be a Housing Conference sponsored by the new Governor at that time and since the Housing Committee has always been run on a nonpartisan basis, we have agreed not to pursue House Joint Resolution 158. We are going to work with the new Governor, the Governor-elect Edgar, in trying to come up with a plan for affordable housing for all the residents 44 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 that reside in this state. So I wish to withdraw the Motion on House Joint Resolution 158."

Speaker Laurino

"The Gentleman has withdrawn the Motion for House Joint Resolution 158. On the Speaker's Table appears Senate Joint Resolution 147, Representative Kubik. Out of the record. House Joint Resolution 160 on Motions. Representative Younge. Wyvetter Younge."

Younge

"Mr. Speaker, take it out of the record, please."

Speaker Laurino

"Out of the record. Speaker's Table, Senate Joint Resolution 147, Representative Kubik."

Kubik

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. We need to adopt an Amendment on this Resolution. First of all, we have to table Amendment #2."

Speaker Laurino

"Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"

O'Brien

"Amendment #2 has been adopted previously. I have a Motion to table Amendment #2 signed by Representative Kubik."

Speaker Laurino

"Further Amendments? The Gentleman's Motion is to table Amendment #2 to Senate Joint Resolution 147. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor indicate by saying 'aye', all those opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes have it, the Motion is adopted. Tabled. Further Amendments?"

O'Brien

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Kubik."

Kubik

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Floor Amendment #3 essentially incorporates all of the items in Amendment #2, which were technical in nature and in addition to that, makes this particular study group an advisory panel rather than a Commission and I would move its adoption."

Speaker Laurino

"You've heard the Gentleman's Motion. Any discussion? Hearing and seeing none, all those in favor 45 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 indicate by saying 'aye' to Amendment #3 to Senate Joint Resolution 147. Opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it, the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

O'Brien

"No further Amendments."

Speaker Laurino

"All those in favor...Mr. Kubik on the Resolution to Senate Joint Resolution 147."

Kubik

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As amended, Senate Joint Resolution 147 creates an advisory panel within the office of the Illinois Local Government Law Enforcement Officers Training Board. What the advisory panel is going to do, and it is comprised of police groups and municipal representatives. We're going to look at the whole issue of auxiliary police officers and the training of those officers and come back with a report for some recommendations by April 1st of 1991. I'd be happy to answer any questions. It's a rather simple Resolution and it is a study. I would appreciate your support on the Resolution."

Speaker Laurino

"Any discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of Senate Joint Resolution 147 will indicate by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'nay'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. Senate Joint Resolution having received 110 'ayes', 0 'nays' and 0 voting 'present' is hereby adopted. Resolutions. Representative Daniels. Read the Resolution, Mr. Clerk."

O'Brien

"House Resolution 2440 offered by Representative Daniels. WHEREAS, during the last six years, State Representative Linda Williamson has worked diligently to improve the quality of life for the residents of the 52nd District; and WHEREAS, in the face of adversity, Rep. Williamson has 46 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day maintained an unwavering commitment accomplishing her legislative goals; and November 30, 1990 to public service and to WHEREAS, Rep. Williamson has distinguished herself as a legislator of persistence and strong conviction both on the floor of the House and in her assignments on the House Committees on Elementary & Secondary Education, Financial Institutions, Registration & Regulation, and the Select Committee on Aeronautics; and WHEREAS, she has also served in an exemplary fashion as the Spokesman of the House Select Committee on Aging; and WHEREAS, she has also been active in numerous community organizations including the Parent-Teacher Association, and served as Founder and President of Taxpayers for a Better Government, Founder of the Leyden Food Pantry, Inc., Co-Founder of Leyden United Neighbors, and is a board member of the Westlake Pavilion, Gottlieb Women's Health Board and the Franklin Park Cancer Society; and WHEREAS, Rep. Williamson's friendship and sense of humor will be sorely missed in the House Republican caucus ranks; and WHEREAS, Rep. Williamson's dedication to the highest ideals and standards of her profession and political party exemplify the goals of representative democracy; now therefore be it RESOLVED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS that we do hereby express our sincerest gratitude for Linda Williamson's tireless years of service in the General Assembly on behalf of her community and the state of Illinois; and be it further RESOLVED, that we do hereby express our heartiest best wishes for continued happiness and achievement to our friend and 47 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day colleague, Linda Williamson; and be it further November 30, 1990 RESOLVED, that suitable copies of this resolution and preamble be humbly presented to Rep. Williamson, her husband Bruce, and their daughters, Tina and Amy."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Daniels."

Daniels

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Obviously, I move for adoption of the Resolution and ask that all Members be joined as Cosponsors. But Linda, we really enjoyed your presence here. Mother, wife, public servant, legislator, friend, companion and colleague are only just a few of the terms that we apply to you. But most important of all is friend, advisor and counsellor, because you've been a person that has truly been an inspiration and an important Member of our fraternity. To you we send all of our good wishes, all of our best feelings and hope that the future treats you as good as the past has. And knowing, of course, of your energy and your commitment to life, and of course your constant sense of humor and your always desire to make the best out of every situation. We know that your laughter and your feelings will always be with us as we face the future. But together, of course, we know that we're going to continue to share in times in the future and that you'll continue to be a very important part of ours. So we send you our best and thank you for the past and look forward to working together for tomorrow."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Pullen."

Pullen

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don't think there's anybody in this House who's likely to come to the next session without thinking now and then about how we miss Linda Williamson. She has truly combined the delight of fun with the dedication of public service in the best sense. I have 48 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 known Linda since before she was first elected here and I've watched her grow as a public servant but never lose touch with the fact that she's really one of the folks, one of the people and that's been a special contribution that she's made here. She has worked tirelessly to make her district and this State a more decent place to live and to raise children. I know how deeply she loves this place and how much pain it gives her to leave and I share that pain in thinking of her leaving us here. I will never forget that last March 20th in the evening. It was Linda who came to my headquarters and cried for me. Or that on September 21st it was Linda who stood behind me when I was able to present my happy news that I had been restored to the ballot. Yes, we're from neighboring districts, but it's more than that. We're buddies. I'm going to miss you for as long as it takes for you to come back and I just want to say thank you for everything you've brought to this place. Even when it was screwy, this is one Lady who played practical jokes as often as she breathed, but they never hurt anybody. And we'll all remember every one of those that any of us was ever involved with and thank you for bringing some fun back to the House, the way it used to be when this place was a lively place in which to work and serve. You've livened our days, Linda. We hope that you'll always be with us in spirit and soon again in the flesh as a Member of this Body."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Weaver."

Weaver

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, it's really difficult to know where to begin because I've been a seatmate of Linda's for all the 6 years that I've been here and that she's been here. I probably should have known that I was going to be in trouble the very first time that I met her was at a House Republican campaign dinner 49 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 and I had to catch a plane before the dinner was going to be over and she volunteered to help me get out of the hall by dropping her fork underneath the table and allowing me to crawl underneath the podium table to get to the door. Linda has, as Penny has indicated, has made this sometimes demanding and tense and stressful place a great deal more boring. She is probably one of the strongest people I've ever run into simply because of her ability to see fun in everything that we do, even sometimes when it gets not to be so much fun. And she's probably going to leave this place well known for many things, including her famous dildo Bill. The various and sundry pieces of airport legislation, but who among us in this chamber will not recall the echoes of her honk as it reverberates between the walls when she has found something particularly enjoyable? Yeah, you got it. It's a...matter of fact, we've had a great deal of fun today. It's only fitting that on Linda's last day in the chamber that her switch doesn't work. Probably the result of one of her practical jokes gone backwards. As Bill Black and David and Penny and a lot of us can tell you, we have enough information to write several books about Linda. Matter of fact, we've started a couple of brief drafts, but rest assured that those manuscripts will be sealed until we're all dead. It's been not only my joy to have her as a friend and a seatmate, but it's going to be tough to put up with this place without her smile, without her honk, without her caring attitude and her real true friendship. She's a strong Lady that has really done her district proud. By being here, she has done this chamber proud and she's certainly made my life a lot more productive and a lot more vital because of her being here. I certainly hope she gets to come back and visit. Probably end up making more money 50 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 than we do and having a great deal more fun doing it. Thank you, Linda, for 6 of the most unforgettable years that I've ever had."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Black."

Black

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I think everyone in this chamber will miss Linda Williamson. Certainly no one in the chamber will miss her more than I. As a really remarkable person who cared deeply about her district, cared deeply about the problems that so many of you are concerned with that...the noise level at O'Hare Airport. In fact, one of the things I'll always remember her for when I'd been here about one week, she turned to me...I happened to have the great pleasure of being her seatmate...she turned to me and said, 'I need your vote on this Bill.' I said, 'What does the Bill do?' She said, 'It curtails aircraft operations at O'Hare.' I said, 'Well, if I can help you and O'Hare's in your district, I'd be glad to do that.' So I voted 'yes'. When I got home I discovered that the Bill, in fact, curtailed airport operations at the Vermilion...at the Greater Vermilion County International Airport in my district, but didn't affect O'Hare at all and it certainly got the attention of my airport authority board, for which I am forever grateful to you, Linda. Anyone who works down here realizes that service to humanity can be the best work of life. And I think Linda exemplifies that in everything she did here. She cared about her district, she cared about her family, most of all she cared about her friends. I've seen her carry the burdens of things that she wanted to change and that she couldn't accomplish no matter how hard she tried, for whatever the reasons and obstacles that were thrown in her path. And yet, she never lost her sense of humor. She never lost her pleasant personality and she never lost that 51 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 ability to make other people feel good. The greatest gift anyone can give is the gift of friendship. Linda, you're one of my dearest friends. I'll miss you. Godspeed. You'll do well in whatever you choose."

Speaker Laurino

"Representative Frederick. Representative Young in the chair."

Frederick

"Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Linda Williamson is a very special Legislator. She's a prankster, she's fun-loving, she's capricious, but at the same time she accomplishes good things for her district and she works very hard at it. I just want to add my good wishes to her with all the others that have already been expressed and say to her that anyone who can get a senior citizen such as myself and my husband to go to a midnight show wearing a Dick Tracy shirt is a very special person and I know that wherever she goes she'll be very special. We hope you have great success, Linda, and we hope to see you very soon again."

Speaker Young

"Representative Piel."

Piel

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. For those of you that do not know Linda Williamson that well, if you've only been here for a couple of years...she is probably the individual that has really brought to light on how much in the dark a freshman Legislator is and was. Unfortunately, in Linda's case it carried over to her sophomore and junior term. I remember a couple of things like, a lot of our secretaries give us a little card and tell us where our meetings are going to be. So Linda's very first two meetings, the very first one was in...in the card it said in the Statehouse, Room 114. Well, she knew the Statehouse Inn was right across the street, so here's Linda 15 minutes later, pounding on Room 114. Couldn't figure why it was such a stupid place to have a Committee 52 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 hearing, but she went down to the front desk and she said, 'I'm supposed to meet some people in Room 114.' He said 'I'm sorry, there's nobody in that room.' So later on in the day her second Committee hearing she was supposed to meet somewhere, she sat there for about three-quarters of the meeting and realized that she was in the wrong Committee room. Everybody in the Committee room with the exception of Linda knew this, but nobody wanted to embarrass her. Well, I was a little bit different, I decided I was going to embarrass her. About the end of the second week here, Secretary of State Jim Edgar had a breakfast for all the freshmen. So Linda decided, you know in her great athletic prowess, decided she was going to go out jogging early in the morning and figured that as long as she could see the dome, she could find her way back to her apartment. Well, she goes jogging out in Washington Park and got lost, needless to say, because the trees blocked the dome. She showed up for the breakfast about 45-50 minutes late. As a matter of fact, everybody else was leaving and she was walking in. So, lo and behold, I found out about this and from that day on I...Well, I walked up to her later on that morning. I said, 'You know you've got, for a 32 year old girl, you've got the directions of a homing pigeon.' So I just loved the times when she'd be talking to a group of constituents and I'd walk by and say, 'Hi ya, Pidge. How ya doin?' I'd say, 'Ask her about the story', and I'd walk away. Well, Linda, not to be outdone, my birthday was on April 2nd and I was working in a bank at the time and on April...Well, April 2nd that year happened to be a primary date in our area and so I was not going to be in the bank and so on April 1st, Linda had delivered to the bank 32 live homing pigeons. With the card on, 'Happy Birthday. Aren't you glad you 53 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 didn't call me elephant?' Well Linda, I must say I'm glad I didn't call you elephant. But this is the type of individual, Ladies and Gentlemen, that has always added a little levity to our serious moments. There's some of us in here that are continuously serious, but I think we have to smile at ourselves at times and she has added this on both sides of the aisle. I would definitely say that I have never seen somebody bring more of a smile to the Speaker's face is when Mike Madigan would continually walk out and all of a sudden he'd glance out of the corner of his eye and he'd just shake his head and smile. But Ladies and Gentlemen, we're definitely, and I think I speak for all 117 of us, that we are definitely going to miss Linda here. And Linda, I want to wish you the best and Godspeed in everything you do."

Speaker Young

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Parcells."

Parcells

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Linda's pretty well known to all of us for being fun-loving. From the monkeys on the wall of her office...if you all didn't see your picture, you're all over there. Practically everybody was a monkey in Linda's office and I hope you all got a chance to look at them...to goldfishes in our drinking water. We wonder how it got there. To all the many, many practical jokes she's pulled here on the House floor that probably each one of us has been the subject of. But the real fun with Linda was to take a trip to Mexico. We took a vacation several years ago and that was the trip that my ribs still ache from, we laughed SO much. A million jokes everyday. She's really a fun person to be with. But there is the other side to Linda and I think most of you know that. She's very enthusiastic. I f you've ever been in her district, there's nobody that's a harder working Representative, more concerned about her constituents than 54 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 Linda is. In addition to that, she's a very generous, loving friend and I truly will miss her here in Springfield and I hope she'll be back again to join us very soon."

Speaker Young

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Pedersen." Pedersen, B.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I certainly concur with all of the comments that have been made about Linda in the last few minutes and I thought I would pass on a little experience I had with Linda. She...you know, is really kind of a crusader on pornography and what have you and Representative Weaver has already mentioned the dildo Bill. At that time, she called me one day and said, 'You know, I go around to these places, these...and pick up all these examples of things that people are trying to sell to ruin our kids and what have you' and she said, 'Come on down, you ought to look at some of this.' So I went over to the office and she gave me this magazine with all these pictures in there and...I tell you...a second or two later she says, 'You know Bern, you're blushing.' And I said, 'Well, you know it's kind of nice, a guy my age is still able to blush.' So Linda, thank you for that. Thank you for all you've done for the Illinois House and your district and I truly hope that you'll be back because we need Legislators like you here."

Speaker Young

"The Gentleman from Warren, Representative Hultgren."

Hultgren

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. When I arrived here 4 years ago, Representative Williamson was one of the very first Legislators that I met. Indeed, Linda was in charge of my official induction ceremony into the House when I was tricked into the gallery. Since that time we have become dear friends. Today we remain dear friends...so far. And although I'm 55 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 not good at sentimental farewells, I don't find any need for that today because I look forward to a future of friendship together and know that we will enjoy many hours and many days together in the years to come. It's been great, Linda."

Speaker Young

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Zickus."

Zickus

"Linda, you're a very special Lady and a very special friend and I'd like to thank Linda for all the help that she gave to me during my first year down here and helped with a lot of new experiences with...betweem Linda and Kay I learned to like Thai food and it seemed like we were going to that restaurant about once a week during...during session. Someone had mentioned the fish in the water glasses at the House dinner. The bomb Scare when they evacuated 'H' wing. I still remember the night we got stuck in the terrible storm and there was a blackout. But one of the things I remember most about Linda besides her help and her guidance and looking up to her and how hard she worked for the people in her district was many nights when I'd go back into my own office and all the pictures would be off the wall...Linda, I need your help tonight. Linda, I wish you lots of good luck. You're a special Lady and you'll always be my special friend."

Speaker Young

"The Gentleman from Will, Representative Regan."

Regan

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Well, classmate, I'm going to miss you, but I'll never forget you. I inherited your office with walls that have holes like swiss cheese from all those monkey pictures. I just sit back and look and remember the days that you half destroyed every office there was in the Stratton Building. I also heard someone mention before that you were full of fun but you never hurt anyone, but I almost choked to death on that goldfish. Come on back soon. We're all going to miss you, Linda." 56 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day

Speaker Young

"The Kirkland." Gentleman from Kane, November 30, 1990

Representative Kirkland

Representative Kirkland: "Well, Linda, let me just repeat like everybody else. We will miss you very much and we all have our unique kind of memories and one, of course, I think of is that great use you got out of those license plates plates perhaps better than most. I also remember on your Mannheim Road Bill the quote that you caught my roommate in that appeared in the Peoria paper that I have posted in various places...it's one of the classics of all time, I think. And I compliment you on your legislative record and your hard work on the O'Hare legislation, and so forth, and truly join all the others here in saying that we'll miss you a lot."

Speaker Young

"Representative Williamson...from Representative Weaver's mike."

Williamson

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It does sound familiar, that terrible honk and I hope that somebody will be able to continue with that honk someday. As I'm standing here and listening to all the shushes and the whispers, I think about Jim DeLeo across the hall, who often caused many of these crazy havocs and then would automatically point to Linda Williamson and say, 'She did it.' And I would get blamed for all of them. But it has been the most terrific 6 years of my life. And over the last couple of weeks as people have come to me and they said, 'Do you have memories of this House?'...Oh, God. So many, you start laughing SO hard and thinking of all the wonderful people and the wonderful things that have happened and done. And then someone asked me, they said, 'If you had any advice to give to your successor or the new Members coming into this wonderful chamber, what would it be?' And I think every one of you have gone through an experience where someone 57 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 has said to you, 'Do you know Representative so-and-so, or do you know the Secretary of State, or do you know the Governor?' And we all sort of shrug it off and say, 'Yeah, we do. We've met the Lieutenant Governor, we've met the Governor of this State.' And you sometimes just take it with a grain of salt that you know these people and that you're part of this chamber. But think about the people outside of this room who'll never have an opportunity in their life to walk into this chamber or to meet the Governor of the State of Illinois and how they look at you with such respect because you're here. Don't ever, ever lose that sight. That you know these people. That you're a part of this wonderful chamber. You think about there are over eleven million people in the State of Illinois and there's only a hundred and eighteen of us sitting here. Whether you're here for one term or 24 terms, don't ever, ever lose that feeling. That the people that brought you here brought you here because of the respect and honor and the love that they have for each one of you. And if there's anything that I could ask of this General Assembly, it would be to keep that in your heart and keep that in your mind, that you're, every one of you, are sitting in these chairs because there's so many people back home that love you, honor you and cherish what you're doing. Don't ever shrug your shoulder and say, 'Yes, I know the Governor. Yes, I am a part of this Body.' Always try and keep in mind everyday when you walk in the door what an absolute honor has been bestowed upon you. To be part of this state, to be part of this history. Because it's just the most wonderful experience you'll ever experience in your entire life. I thank each one of you individually, I wish I had the time and the opportunity to walk around and hug each one of you and give you each a kiss and tell you 58 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 the different memories I have of every single one of you. But I don't have that time cause today is my last day and I walk out of here with dignity and pride and just great gratitude to every one of you for making this the most wonderful 6 years of my life. Thank you. God bless every one of you."

Speaker Young

"Representative Daniels asks leave that all Members be added as Cosponsors of the Resolution. Leave is granted and the Resolution is adopted. All those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have and it and the Resolution is adopted. I am not ready to adjourn yet, but right now I recognize Representative Capparelli for the Agreed Resolutions."

Leone

"House Resolution 2448 offered by Representative Mautino, 2450 by Ryder, 2451 by Granberg, 2452 by Granberg, 2453 by Weller, 2454 by Daniels, 2455 by Madigan and 2456 by Ryder. And 2458 by Daniels."

Speaker Young

"Representative Capparelli on the Agreed Resolutions."

Capparelli

"I move that we accept all the Agreed Resolutions."

Speaker Young

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it and the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Representative Steczo in the chamber? Representative... House Bill 3310, Representative Steczo. Out of the record. We're waiting for Supplemental #2 which has about 6 items. I'm told we'll be ready to adjourn in about 30 minutes. Calendar Supplemental #2 is now being distributed. On House Calendar Supplemental #2 under the Order of Concurrences appears House Bill 2570. Representative Capparelli."

Capparelli

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that House concur 59 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2570. Senate Amendment #1 makes 4 changes to the banking laws that are quite important. First, the Amendment modifies the law that we passed last year regarding the ability of banks to bid on deposits and loans of failed savings and loans which have been taken over by the federal government. Last year the federal law set up a procedure for banks to bid on deposits and loans of failed S and L's. We changed the state law to confirm...to conform with the new federal law by authorizing a bank, which is a successful bidder, to operate the failed S and L branches as its own branch. In other words, we allowed one single bank, successful bidder bank, to convert branches of a failed S and L bank. This law worked well for the large banks, but it failed for the smaller banks. The Bill now...their interest in bidding...the small banks that are interested in bidding, in order for a smaller bank to buy a piece of a larger failed S and L it must, as a practical matter, join with other banks who collectively have resources necessary to make the purchase. These banks are called a consortium or a group of banks which will submit their bid to the federal government to buy the deposits and loans of failed S and L's. If their bid is awarded they will then parcel out the pieces or the deposits and loans of the failed S and L among the members of the group. This provision grants each bank in the bidding group the identical branching rights that we last year granted only to one single bidder. The Amendment also extends from six months to two years the period of time within a bank can relocate a branch acquired by an S and L. The Amendment also clarifies the language in the Illinois Banking Act to expressly allow investments and obligations of the State of Israel or obligations fully guaranteed by the State of Israel. The last Amendment 60 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 authorizes Illinois Student Assistance Commission to condition a school's eligibility to participate in the ISAC's scholarship and grant programs upon the school's agreement. This provision is permissive and is supported by the Illinois Student Assistance Commission. The second Amendment authorizes a transfer from the Bank Examiners Education Endowment Fund to the Bank and Trust Company Fund. These funds are paid for entirely by state banks. The Commissioner's office has a short term serious cash flow problem. The Amendment provides a temporary solution and a long term mechanism to replenish the Bank and Trust Funds SO that the transfers can be paid back to the Education Fund. The Commissioner has agreed to shorten the repayment period, which is now 3 years. I would ask for a favorable vote."

Speaker Young

"The Gentleman moves that the House does concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2570. On that Motion the Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black."

Black

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Inquiry of the Chair. Has this Amendment been printed and distributed?"

Speaker Young

"Yes, the Amendment has been printed and distributed."

Black

"I think everybody got a copy over here but me. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Young

"The Gentleman from Hicks...the Gentleman from Jefferson, Representative Hicks."

Hicks

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. A question, please, for the Sponsor, if he'll yield. Dealing with your transfer of funds...you're transferring out of the Education Fund, is that correct?"

Capparelli

"Yes, out of the banks' educational fund, which is their own money."

Hicks

"How much money are you transferring?" 61 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day

Capparelli

"A million three."

Hicks

"For a period of how long?" November 30, 1990

Capparelli

"It has to be paid back within three years but he's guaranteed me it'll be paid back in a shorter time."

Hicks

"Why are we taking money out of the Education Fund to go to...and who does it go to?"

Capparelli

"They have a short cash flow right now and they have money there and they want to transfer it and they will transfer it back, or else they will not be able to pay those people who are working right now. In four weeks they'll be out of money."

Hicks

"In four weeks we're going to be out of money? How can we be out of money in the banks? Did we not appropriate money this year?"

Capparelli

"It's not a case of appropriation, he tells me. It's just a case of the shortfall."

Hicks

"Well, if it's a case of shortfall, then it must be a case of appropriations. It sounds like we didn't appropriate enough money or he spent too much."

Capparelli

"No, no. The money comes from fees paid to the S and L. I mean...I'm sorry, not the S and L, but the Commissioner of Banks and Savings and Loans. He will be getting these fees by February, I think."

Hicks

"But, Representative, those funds are appropriated. They are appropriated. Those fees are appropriated to you. Mr. Speaker, to the Bill. You know, I sit here and I hear it and we see continually, Bills that come across here. We have fees just as this that are going to one fund or another fund. And yet, once we come down to it, then we see that we want to change those funds. We want to take and borrow from this fund to give to another. Why do we need to borrow for three years funds from the Education Fund for Banks and Trusts and then put into operational 62 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 funds when we do appropriations? I would suggest to you, coming next year if any Members of this House who want to do something good in this House next year, join with me in having a Bill that's going to do away with these funds and make this Legislature important again. Let's put money in the GRF and then let the appropriation process work with this House, and that's what's important and that's what we better be doing. I think this is wrong, what we're doing here. I would ask everybody to join me in not supporting this Amendment."

Speaker Young

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Harris."

Harris

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Question of the Sponsor? Question of the Sponsor? Will he yield?"

Speaker Young

"Indicates he will yield for a question."

Harris

"Representative, we are taking...you are considering both of these Amendments, I gather, on the same vote? Okay. Amendment #1, on page...page 11 of Amendment #1. It makes reference to using the state as the primary guarantor of student loans made under the Higher...Federal Higher Education Act. What does that mean? What is that doing there?"

Capparelli

"The Amendment authorizes the Illinois Student Assistance Commission to condition the school's eligibility to participate in the ISAC scholarship and grant program upon the schools agreement to use the state as a primary guaranteer of its guaranteed student loan. This provision will give the Commission an important tool to maintain a default rate within its portfolio low enough to assure the continued qualifications for federal reassurance."

Harris

"Well, does this have anything to do with the fact that many banks have made loans, student loans, or have been guarantors of student loans and now they're not getting paid back and now the banks are saying, 'Hey, we're left 63 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 holding the bag, so let's transfer...instead of us getting left holding the bag, let's have the state hold the bag'?"

Capparelli

"I think that you're right there, yes."

Harris

"I'm right?"

Capparelli

"I think so. Wait. Hold on a minute. This Amendment was just given me. I've got to find some answers to it."

Harris

"What do I do now? Representative, am I getting...are you going to answer that further or is that..."

Capparelli

"No, no. They tell me that you're wrong there, yes."

Harris

"No, I'm wrong. Okay. Well, I was hoping I was right. It really does raise a question. I mean, when we're talking about primary guarantor of student loans, the state being the primary guarantor, I don't know if that's a change in our policy. Banks have traditionally under the...under the Federal Higher Education Act, from what I understand, been the primary guarantors of these things. They are the ones who judge whether or not the loan is a good one or not and if they're willing to pick it up and I'd be concerned if the state now makes that...makes that guarantee and we may not be as even as good as the bankers are to make the judgments in this...these incidents."

Capparelli

"This only..."

Harris

"Go ahead."

Capparelli

"They tell me that just what this does is guarantee the loan and takes all the problem away from the Commission and that this is a federal guarantee."

Harris

"So it does not relieve the banks...it does not relieve the banks of any responsibility? Yes, I see the appropriate person shaking his head. Thank you. Okay, thank you on that point. That's all the questions I have."

Speaker Young

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Preston."

Preston

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I guess discussion is done. I 64 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 just rise in support of this Concurrence Motion. I think these are good Amendments, we ought to adopt them."

Speaker Young

"Representative Capparelli to close."

Capparelli

"Both of these Amendments are urgently needed and I ask for a favorable Roll Call. I understand it was supposed to be agreed on both sides of the aisle."

Speaker Young

"The Gentleman moves that the House concur in Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 2570. On...Representative Black, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

Black

"Well, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I would just request a Roll Call...a Roll Call vote and I would also direct an inquiry to the Sponsor if it's in order to do so?"

Speaker Young

"No, it is not. Discussion has been closed. We are about to vote."

Black

"Thank you. Alright."

Speaker Young

"He can shake his head if he chooses."

Black

"I would request a Roll Call vote and I...there is definitely a question about who is guaranteeing student loans, believe me."

Speaker Young

"Alright, the question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 2570?' This Motion takes 71 votes. All those in favor vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? This Motion takes 71 votes. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Piel, one minute to explain your vote."

Piel

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'd like to explain it somewhat. To give a little bit of an explanation to some of the people who are a little bit concerned. Obviously they're a little bit concerned about coming up at the last minute on the last day with some 65 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 major bank changes. But what this basically does, and I think there's questions more on Amendment #2...it's setting up a fund. The Commissioner of Banks and Trust Company Department is set up to where these are paid by banks, the banks pay the fees and any money set up at the end of a specific quarter has got to be returned to the banks. So at times it ends up being a situation to where the Commissioner's fund, this money has been returned and the funds are a little bit short and that is one of the reasons that this is being set up is so that in the future those funds do not have to be returned immediately to the banks and the department will not have to come back for supplemental appropriations, et cetera, and we'll stay away from this...you know, type of a situation in the future to where we're asking for, you know, supplemental appropriations and having to return these funds to the banks in question. So I would ask the Members on both sides of the aisle to consider this...this is some bank legislation that definitely needs to be addressed and I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

Speaker Young

"Representative Black, one minute to explain your vote."

Black

"Inquiry of the Chair, Mr. Speaker. If the Parliamentarian could rule...I object to both of these Amendments being included on the same vote. One may be fine, but I'm telling you, there's an Amendment up here that has a liability. I object. I'd like to split the question."

Speaker Young

"Representative Black, your Motion is not timely."

Black

"I think it's very timely, but I'll accede to your ruling."

Speaker Young

"Have all voted who wish? Representative Hultgren, one minute to explain his vote." 66 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day

Hultgren

"Simply, November 30, 1990 if this gets the requisite number of votes, I think we ought to have a verification."

Speaker Young

"Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 71 voting 'yes'...there's already been a request for a verification, Representative Hicks...71 voting 'yes', 29 voting 'no', 9 voting 'present'. Representative Hultgren requests a verification of the affirmative vote. Representative Capparelli requests a Poll of the Absentees."

O'Brien

"A poll of those not voting. Lou Jones. Shirley Jones., Krska. Mautino. Mulcahey and Turner. No further."

Speaker Young

"Representative Hultgren, do you have questions of the affirmative vote? Poll the affirmative vote, Mr. Clerk."

O'Brien

"Balanoff. Barger. Barnes. Bowman. Breslin. Brunsvold. Bugielski. Capparelli. Churchill. Cowlishaw. Cullerton. Currie. Daniels. DeJaegher. DeLeo. Didrickson. Dunn. Ewing. Flinn. Frederick. Giorgi. Goforth. Hallock. Hensel. Hoffman. Homer. Keane. Kirkland. Kulas. Lang. Laurino. LeFlore. Leach. Levin. Martinez. McAuliffe. McPike. Munizzi. Noland. Novak. Bob Olson. Myron Olson. Parcells. Parke. B. Pedersen. W. Peterson. Piel. Preston. Pullen. Regan. Rice. Richmond. Ronan. Ropp. Saltsman. Santiago. Steczo. Stevens. Stern. Sutker. Tenhouse. Terzich. Trotter. Weaver. Wennlund. White. Williams. Williamson. Wolf. Wyvetter Younge and Zickus."

Speaker Young

"Questions of the affirmative vote, Representative Hultgren?"

Hultgren

"Representative Balanoff."

Speaker Young

"Representative Balanoff. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Representative Balanoff. How is Representative 67 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 Balanoff recorded as voting?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove him from the Roll Call."

Hultgren

"Representative Barnes."

Speaker Young

"Representative Barnes. Is Representative Barnes in the chamber? How is Representative Barnes recorded as voting?"

O'Brien

"The Lady is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove her from the Roll Call."

Hultgren

"Representative Cullerton."

Speaker Young

"Representative Cullerton. John Cullerton. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? How is Representative Cullerton recorded as voting?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove him from the Roll Call."

Hultgren

"Representative DeJaegher."

Speaker Young

"Representative DeJaegher. Is Representative DeJaegher in the chamber? How is he recorded as voting?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove him from the Roll Call."

Hultgren

"Representative Homer. I'm sorry. Withdraw that. I didn't."

Speaker Young

"Representative Homer is in the chamber."

Hultgren

"Representative Laurino."

Speaker Young

"Representative Laurino. Representative Laurino. Is Representative Laurino in the chamber? How is Representative Laurino recorded as voting?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman's recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove him from the Roll Call."

Hultgren

"Representative Noland."

Speaker Young

"Representative Noland is...in the chamber."

Hultgren

"Withdraw that. Withdraw that. Representative Richmond." 68 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990

Speaker Young

"Representative Weaver. How is the Gentleman recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman's recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove him from the Roll Call."

Hultgren

"Representative Homer."

Speaker Young

"Representative Homer was called once and was in the chamber at that time."

Hultgren

"Representative...did I...?"

Speaker Young

"Yes."

Hultgren

"Nothing further."

Speaker Young

"Representative Lang, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

Lang

"Mr. Speaker, now that the verification's been completed, I would now ask that the question be divided. There's substantial support, I believe, for one of these two Amendments and I would ask that the question be divided."

Speaker Young

"The Roll Call is still open and that Motion is not timely. Representative Harris, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

Harris

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Several people have made reference to dividing the question. Along those lines, after this vote is finalized, is it then appropriate...or could a reconsideration be made with the divided question? Is that appropriate?"

Speaker Young

"It's my understanding that it can. We'll check with the Parliamentarian after we close this Roll. Representative Ewing, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

Ewing

"Mr. Speaker, inquiry of the Chair. If we divide this question, this is concurrence on the Senate Conference Committee Report. If we only concur in one Amendment, this Bill could not pass and you'd have to have another Conference Committee..." 70 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 Speaker Young Representative Richmond. Is Bruce Richmond in the chamber? How is the Gentleman recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman's recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove him from the Roll Call."

Hultgren

"Representative Saltsman."

Speaker Young

"Representative Saltsman is in his chair."

Hultgren

"I'm sorry. I can't see. There's several people standing there. Representative Sutker."

Speaker Young

"Representative Sutker. Is Representative Sutker in the chamber? How is the Gentleman recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman's recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove him from the Roll Call."

Hultgren

"Representative Williams."

Speaker Young

"Representative Paul Williams. Is he in the chamber? How is Representative Williams recorded as voting?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman's recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove him from the Roll Call. Add Representative Balanoff...return Representative Balanoff to the Roll Call as voting 'aye'."

Hultgren

"Representative Keane. Representative Keane."

Speaker Young

"Representative Keane is at the well."

Hultgren

"I apologize. Representative Ronan."

Speaker Young

"Representative Ronan. Is Representative Ronan in the chamber? How is the Gentleman recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman's recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove him from the Roll Call."

Hultgren

"Representative Terzich."

Speaker Young

"Representative Bob Terzich. How is the Gentleman recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman's recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove him from the Roll Call."

Hultgren

"Representative Weaver." 69 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990

Speaker Young

"This is not a Conference Committee. These are two Senate Amendments to House Bills."

Ewing

"Only concurrences then. Alright, thank you."

Speaker Young

"Representative Ackerman."

Ackerman

"Change my vote to 'aye', please."

Speaker Young

"Representative Ackerman votes 'aye'. Further changes? On this question there are 62 voting 'yes', 28 voting 'no', 9 voting 'present' and the Motion fails. Representative Lang."

Lang

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Now that the Roll Call is completed, I would now move to divide the question and vote on those Amendments separately."

Speaker Young

"That Motion is in order. Representative Capparelli. Which Amendment is it that you'd like to consider separately?"

Capparelli

"What, divide the issue? He asked to divide the Amendments?"

Speaker Young

"Yes, he did."

Capparelli

"Well, I'd like to concur on Amendment... Postponed Consideration."

Speaker Young

"The Gentleman requests that this Bill be placed on Postponed Consideration. On House Supplemental #2 under the Order of Motions appears House Bill 2867, Representative Lang. Out of the record. On House Supplemental #2 appears... House Supplemental #2 under the Order of Motions appears House Bill 3037, Representative Ropp."

Ropp

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 3037 is a Bill that is..."

Speaker Young

"Representative Ropp, you have a Motion first. This is a Motion."

Ropp

"Okay. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to take from the Table and suspend Rule 79(d) and (e) and place on the Order 71 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 146th Legislative Day of Concurrences House Bill 3037."

Speaker Young

"You've heard the Gentleman's Motion. On that question is there any discussion? Hearing none the question is, 'Shall the House suspend Rule 79(d) and (e) and take from the Table and place on the Order of Concurrence House Bill 3037?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it and the Motion carries. By use of the Attendance Roll Call. Now, House Bill 3037."

Ropp

"Okay. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 3037 is the result of the recent Illinois Supreme Court ruling and their opinion October 18, 1990, which found unconstitutional the Illinois State Assistance Commission filing all of their lawsuits on delinquent loans only in the County of Cook. This Bill now will allow a change of venue for all 102 counties in Illinois and I ask for your support or I'd be happy to answer any questions that you would have. I have just one Amendment. Mr. Speaker, I'm only aware of one Amendment. On the Roll Call board there is two."

Speaker Young

"The Calendar is in error, Representative Ropp is correct. The Concurrence is on Senate Amendment #1. The Gentleman moves that the House does concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3037. On that Motion, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

Leverenz

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of the Gentleman's Motion. This has completely stopped the Attorney General's Office from going after defaulted student loans entirely. It will put the procedure back in place SO that they, as they did last year, collect six million dollars in defaulted student loans. Their estimate was for this year that they would collect ten million dollars worth of loans. This stopped the entire procedure 72 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 from going on and it will put that whole operation back in motion and I would ask everyone would join with Representative Ropp that we adopt this at this time."

Speaker Young

"The Gentleman from DeKalb, Representative Countryman."

Countryman

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

Speaker Young

"He indicates he will yield for a question."

Countryman

"Representative Ropp, you said that this now permits a change of venue to any of the 102 counties, but is...Is that just your way of saying it and what really the effect is that the suit has to be filed in the county in which the defendant resides?"

Ropp

"This will allow that to occur. Currently, all of those suits had to be filed in the County of Cook and that's what the Supreme Court found to be unconstitutional."

Countryman

"Alright. So now they would be filed where the defendant resides, is that right?"

Ropp

"Yes. At their request. Yes."

Countryman

"Well, you mean it's going to be filed in Cook and they've got to move to change venue from Cook to..."

Ropp

"Yes. They have 30 days from the time they received a summons and to ask for...through written request...the change of venue."

Countryman

"Why don't they file them in the county where they reside? That's where venue is everywhere else for any other case? All the manufacturers come in here and want venue in the county where the defendant resides or manufactures it, why should we make all these cases in Cook County, which has a bogged down court system and an 8-10 year backlog?"

Ropp

"I...I don't know. You may've raised a good point. I just say that the Illinois Student Assistance Commission have determined this is the proper method that they choose to 73 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day implement that ruling by the Supreme Court."

Countryman

"To the Amendment, Mr. Speaker. I don't think this is good law. I don't think this really corrects the problem. I think the venue ought to be the same as it is in any other case. If I've got people who live in DeKalb County and they're defaulted on a student loan and they're to be sued by the Scholarship Commission, they ought to be sued the same way any other plaintiff would have to sue them if they were collecting any other debt and they ought to file the suit in the county where the defendant resides. To make a special exception in this instance is wrong. All you're going to do is delay the process. It's going to go back up to the Illinois Supreme Court and they're going to say you didn't do it right again once. And we might as well vote this down and come back and do it right in January."

Speaker Young

"Further discussion? Representative Ropp to close."

Ropp

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This is a request by the Illinois Student Assistance Commission and it is an attempt to address a situation now that the Illinois Supreme Court previously found to be unconstitutional and I welcome your support in this endeavor."

Speaker Young

"The question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3037?' All those in favor vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This requires 71 votes. Have all voted who wish? Representative Lang, one minute to explain your vote."

Lang

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. What we're doing here really makes no sense, Ladies and Gentlemen. If the purpose of the Supreme Court decision was to say that a defendant should be sued where they live so they shouldn't have to 74 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 travel to Cook County from downstate some place, passage of this will require that the defendant go to Cook County so that they can move the case back downstate, where they want it in the first place. This is my understanding of the Bill. This makes no sense to me at all. Why don't we pass legislation that requires the lawsuit to be filed in the county in which the defendant lives? Rethink this."

Speaker Young

"Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 91 voting 'yes', 15 voting 'no', none voting 'present'. This question having received the required Constitutional Three-Fifths Majority and the House does concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill... Representative Currie... It's already printed. It's already printed. House does concur in House Bill 3037. On the Order of...on House Calendar Supplemental #2 appears Conference Committee Reports, House Bill 3793, Representative McPike. House Bill 4126, Representative Homer."

Homer

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. The Conference Committee does four things, all of which I believe to be noncontroversial and have been agreed to by the negotiation of the parties of interest, specifically the courts and the appellate defenders' project. First, the Bill would extend the law we passed last spring that reduced from 10 years to 3 years the time in which a post conviction petition could be filed in capital cases would it be extended, the effective date, from January 1 of '92 to July 1 of '92 in order to afford the Appellate Defender additional opportunity to prepare the appropriate petitions. Second, the jurisdiction of the State Appellate Defender would be reinstated for misdemeanor cases in which a period of imprisonment has been imposed SO as to alleviate the burden on counties to appoint special counsel 75 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 to handle indigent appeals of misdemeanants. The Bill also includes a provision request from the Department of Corrections to include violations of electronic home detention as a Class 3 felony and finally there's a provision in the Bill that was requested by Representative, soon to be Judge, Countryman that would establish a notice requirement for expungement proceedings and also require greater compliance and strict compliance with the expungement orders of the court by the various law enforcement agencies. I'll try to answer questions. I would move for the adoption of the First Conference Committee Report."

Speaker Young

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the First Conference Committee Report to House Bill 4126. On that question, the Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black."

Black

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Young

"Indicates he will yield for a question."

Black

"Thank you. Representative, is this the matter that we discussed yesterday where you're correcting a little, perhaps an editing problem that was putting an unnecessary expense on the counties, and you're now removing that expense?"

Homer

"Yes, last spring in a Conference Report at the request of the Appellate Defender, we passed a Bill that was signed by the Governor that took away their jurisdiction over representing those convicted of misdemeanors, and as a result, the counties have had to absorb the burden of appointing special counsel to represent indigent misdemeanants on appeal. And so this would reinstate the jurisdiction of the Appellate Defender for handling misdemeanants who have been sentenced to a term of 76 146th Legislative Day imprisonment." STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990

Black

"Well, so then it would only stand that counties would be very much in to reason obviously favor of this correction, would they not?"

Homer

"Right, I think you would find your county boards would be It would save them very much in favor of this provision. money."

Black

"Thank you very much."

Speaker Young

"The Gentleman from Will, Representative Petka. Representative Keane in the Chair."

Petka

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Keane

"He indicates he will." Petka: Homer: or the "Representative, during your remarks I believe that you indicated that this...that a portion of this Bill entire Bill had individuals who had provision which dealt had sponsored last been agreed upon between various interest in the legislation. The directly with the legislation which I year, which passed out of this House, there was never any hearing after that Bill had been signed into law...was there." "There was no what?"

Petka

"Any hearing, any committee that met on that particular provision."

Homer

"On the change of that..."

Petka

"Yes."

Homer

"No."

Petka

"Okay. Alright, is there, other than the information packet that was circulated by the State Appellate Defenders, has there been any testimony taken anywhere in the state in connection with some of the facts and figures that may have been within that packet?"

Homer

"There has not been a hearing on the aspect of the Bill 77 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 that...you introduced a Bill last year that passed that reduced the amount of time for post-conviction relief in capital cases from ten years to three years. The portion of this Conference Committee that addresses that issue would delay by six months the implementation of your Bill. And there was no hearing as...that I'm aware of, as to that issue."

Petka

"Then, Mr. Speaker, to the Bill."

Speaker Keane

"Proceed."

Petka

"Here we are on November the 30th, and we've been sitting around and basically wasting a lot of time down here, and a piece of legislation which was passed last spring after a very, very heated debate is brought up on a Conference Committee Report. By and large this Conference Committee Report has some very, very good things about it. But there's one piece of legis...one item in there, which in my opinion is being rushed a judgement without any type of a hearing, that is once again there is an attempt by those who are opposed to the imposition of the death penalty in this state to extend the time that post-conviction appeals can be filed. Now the ostensible purpose for this is to give them an additional six months so that they will not be overworked with voluminous amounts of what they consider to be repetitious type of litigation. In my opinion, there is no justification whatsoever at this point in time for extending that period of even six months. If, in fact, we have hearings in the spring time in connection with this, if compelling and sufficient evidence is presented that would place the burden, rather onerously on that department, I will be happy to assist them in trying to get a Bill passed. But at this point in time, there has been no evidence that suggests that an extension of time is warranted or necessary. Once again those who are opposed 78 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 to the imposition of the death penalty in a timely fashion have gone through the backdoor, in my opinion, in trying to circumvent the clear intent of this Legislature last spring. I would like to see this legislation defeated at this point in time, this Conference Committee Report defeated at this time, and having that onerous provision taken out, would be very, very happy to support it in its entirety. But with that onerous provision in it, to me it's a poison, and because of this the baby must be thrown out with the bath water. We simply should vote this Bill down. The process is being abused. In 1984 a Gentleman by the name of Henry Brisbane, the infamous I-57 killer in Cook County, was convicted in the Circuit Court in Will County in the case I tried. Within the last six months, he's filed a post-conviction proceeding here six years after the date of conviction. I'm telling you this process is being abused, and unless we take definite actions and send out a signal that we do not want this process abused, it will continue to be abused. The way we can send out that signal is simply to vote down this Conference Committee Report and ask for a Second Conference Committee Report and adopt it without that provision. I urge a 'no' vote."

Speaker Keane

"Representative Homer to close."

Homer

"Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker, I would respectfully urge that you vote in favor of this Bill. It's not a simple matter of coming back with a Second Report. There's something in here that the counties want very much, that the Appellate Defender is not excited about, that is taking the appeals, the misdemeanants, but it's something that will save counties and taxpayers a lot of money. In return for that, there's something in here that the Appellate Defender has asked a very reasonable request of a 79 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 six month delay in enforcing what otherwise could be an onerous and extremely expensive time consuming process that may, in fact, be totally unnecessary. The fact of the matter is that in 40% of all of their capital appeals, they prevail in terms of modification of sentence. If you don't extend the date by six months so that we can work next spring to try to carve out accommodation of all the competing interests, and I think we're close to being able to do that, then you'll have imposed an unnecessary financial burden on the people of the State of Illinois and increase the amount of work for lawyers, but you'll have served no purpose whatsoever. And there won't be one individual who is sentenced to death any earlier, but rather a situation where you have imposed some unnecessary cost and work for the Appellate Defender's Office. I believe that we can resolve the differences next spring. I think the most reasonable minded people believe that we can, and I would point out that the Senate Sponsor of the prior speaker's Bill, Senator Hawkinson, is supporting this Conference Committee Report as a reasonable attempt to accommodate the competing interests. It does nothing to mitigate or take away from the Bill that we passed last year. It's simply a six month extension in order for us to be able to work out the problems that the legislation created, and we would have a chance to do that next spring. So this...there's nothing controversial whatsoever in this Report. It has overwhelming sentiment, bipartisan nature, both here and in the Senate, is supported fully by the Senate Sponsor of the Bill of the previous speaker, and I would urge your support at this time."

Speaker Keane

"The question is, 'Shall the House adopt the First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 4126?' Those in favor vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is 80 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 open. Have all voted who wish? This Bill takes 71 votes. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this issue there are 62 voting 'aye', 34 voting 'no', 7 voting 'present', and the House does not adopt the First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 4126. And the Sponsor requests a second Conference Committee be appointed? Representative Homer."

Homer

"The reason it was Three-Fifths is because of the effective date, Mr. Speaker?"

Speaker Keane

"Yes, Representative Homer."

Homer

"Could I put...could I rather ask that the matter be put on the Order of Postponed Consideration?"

Speaker Keane

"The Gentleman requests that the Bill be put on Postponed Consideration. All in favor vote 'aye'...or say 'aye', all opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it and the Bill is on Postponed Consideration. House Bill 3793, Representative McPike."

McPike

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The Conference Committee Report requires the concurrence of Senate Amendments #1 and 2. It further adds a technical Amendment to the RTA Act. It allows for Pearl Harbor Veterans to get special license plates. It provides...it has two provisions for the City of Chicago in regards to the collection of the Motor Vehicle Car Tax. It redefines the word, 'broker' in the Illinois Vehicle Code. And I would move for the adoption of the Conference Committee Report."

Speaker Keane

"Is there any further discussion? Representative Kirkland."

Kirkland

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Keane

"He indicates he will."

Kirkland

"You indicated the Bill redefines brokering as in what part of the Code?" 81 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE McPike

TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE McPike: "It's in the Illinois Vehicle Code."

Kirkland

"Okay."

McPike

"And November 30, 1990 I think it provides that you can...An individual...I'm sorry, let me just read what a broker is not. If you are not a broker, you cannot display for sale cars on a lot or a showroom or advertise for sales or regularly or actively solicit buyers. And this deals with the car sales that take place on lots. When you have a tent sale, someone comes in town with forty cars and sells forty cars and the dealers in town object. You cannot do that without getting a license from the Secretary of State."

Kirkland

"Alright, and the credit unions oppose the leg...this part of the legislation. Is that correct?"

McPike

"Yes."

Kirkland

"Alright, and has this legislation, this part of the legislation, ever gone to the Governor before?"

McPike

"I don't know."

Kirkland

"Alright. The information we have is it's gone to the Governor and been vetoed four times. You didn't know that?"

McPike

"No, I did not know that."

Kirkland

"Okay."

McPike

"I saw this about five minutes ago."

Kirkland

"Oh, is that right?"

Mc Pike

"Yeah."

Kirkland

"I see. Okay. Do you know, Representative, what the credit unions do in connection with this brokering? And why this change would be needed?"

McPike

"No, I don't know specifically why the credit unions object. If they object to it, so let it be noted. I have no idea why they object."

Kirkland

"Alright, well, they..." 82 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990

Mc Pike

"I know why the car dealers object. It's apparent when somebody brings thirty or forty cars into town and sells them on a weekend sale, I can understand why the car dealers object."

Kirkland

"Alright, the...as I understand it, the credit unions have the opportunity to advertise sales that are conducted by licensed automobile dealers and have obviously been able to do this for a number of years under current legislation and this would eliminate that opportunity. The sells still occur, the sells still take place under the auspices of licensed automobile dealers. Mc Pike: You aware of that?" "Well, I'm just aware that you've explained it to me and I accept your explanation."

Kirkland

"Alright. Well, just let me say then that the Illinois Credit Union League is against this part of the Bill. The Department of Financial Institution opposes it. Federal Trade Commission has made testimony against it. Federal Trade Commission Bureau of Competition Consumer and Protection Economics, United Buying Services, Amoco Motor Club, Amway Motoring Plan and National Hertz and Avis Fleet dealers also oppose the legislation."

McPike

"I don't think that's correct. I don't think that's correct because they opposed a provision in the original draft that was removed. And that would have allowed a person to lease a truck, a U-Haul truck, with a different driver's license than is now required, and so we removed that provision."

Kirkland

"And who that I mentioned that opposed that part that has been removed, now doesn't oppose the part of the legislation that I've been asking you about? Do you know? My information..."

McPike

"I would think everyone that you just read."

Kirkland

"My information indicates that those...those groups 83 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 that I read off oppose the part of the legislation that I'm asking you about, not the part that's been removed."

McPike

"Alright."

Kirkland

"So I would simply advise the Body of that opposition to the Bill and make it clear to the Body that this is more than just a simple change in the definition of brokering and ask for opposition to the legislation."

Speaker Keane

"Representative Deuchler."

Deuchler

"Would the Sponsor yield for a question, please?"

Speaker Keane

"Indicates he will."

Deuchler

"Representative McPike, you've mentioned some technical aspects relating to the RTA. Could you describe and tell us a little more about the implications of that?"

McPike

"The Spring '89 Session created the Strategic Capital Improvement Project Bond Program for the RTA. As part of this program, the RTA must annually certify the monthly debt payment schedule to the State Comptroller and Treasurer prior to each state fiscal year. RTA believes the language of the '89 law does not provide enough flexibility to revise monthly debt service payments for bonds issued after the beginning of the new fiscal year. This creates a problem in determining the first year debt service for each new issuance of strategic capital improvement projects bonds. The new test proposed in this Conference Committee Report would permit the RTA and the state to revise monthly debt service transfers to the Public Transportation Fund, so the first year's debt service can be promptly paid to bond holders. And that's why I said I viewed it as a technical change."

Deuchler

"Representative McPike here now..."

McPike

"Did that answer your question?"

Deuchler

"Yes."

McPike

"Thank you." 84 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day Deuchler:

McPike

November 30, 1990 "I do have another question; however, I noticed on the last page that Representative Cullerton and Representative Keane did not sign the Report as well as Senator Daley, and that made me wonder what they have reservations about. So I thought it might be the RTA, but in looking further at the Report, could you describe, other than reading, because it is quite a long section, just generally describe the taxation powers expanded on and allowed in this Report for home rule municipalities." "Yes, this would require the state to collect the city's tax on automobiles purchased outside the city and remit that tax to the City of Chicago, and they would pay a 2% collection fee for that."

Deuchler

"Thank you."

Speaker Keane

"Representative Harris."

Harris

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, a question of the Sponsor."

Speaker Keane

"Indicates he'll yield."

Harris

"Representative, so now when a vehicle is sold, let's say in suburban Cook County, the use tax, which would go to the city, is collected by the dealer, sent to the Department of Revenue and then returned..."

McPike

"No. No, not under current law."

Harris

"Not under law, but under this Bill."

McPike

"Under this Bill, that's right."

Harris

"Right. What happens with and help me out I don't know this. Among suburban communities that may have imposed a use tax, are they on their own to collect that use tax or does the Department collect it for them also?"

McPike

"No, everyone under current law is on their own."

Harris

"So then this really only applies but this only applies the City of Chicago, and a dealership that might be located in Schaumburg, if somebody from Arlington Heights goes and buys a car there, Arlington to I'm not critical 85 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 Heights, if they have a use tax is...still has the responsibility of getting that money from them."

McPike

"That's correct."

Harris

"Okay. Do the car dealers have any position on collecting this tax on..."

McPike

"No, they have agreed to this."

Harris

"Okay, maybe they might want to help out Arlington Heights and some of the other communities and do the same for us."

McPike

"Maybe some of those smaller communities don't actually have that big of a problem."

Harris

"Okay, thank you for your help."

Speaker Keane

"Representative Anthony Young in the Chair. Robert Olson, Representative Olson." Olson, R.: "Yield? Will the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Keane

"He indicates he will." Olson, R.: "Representative McPike, does this deal with new cars only, the part of the Bill that's with cars? My question..."

McPike

"No, it deals with car dealers, not with new cars. It deals with car dealers." Olson, R.: "But basic...my concern is it's not unusual in downstate communities to drive by the local bank and see a car that's been repossessed on the lot for sale. Does this affect that transaction any way?"

McPike

"No. This applies to suburban Cook and to the collar counties." Olson, R.: "Thank you."

Speaker Young

"The Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black."

Black

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. An inquiry of the Chair. Is there an immediate effective date on this Conference Committee Report and if so, does it require 71 86 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 votes?"

Speaker Young

"This requires 60 votes because there's not an immediate effective date."

Black

"Mr. Speaker, I would ask that you look at that again. I have been informed by Staff repeatedly that it has an immediate effective date, and I would ask you to SO rule and that it would require 71 votes."

Speaker Young

"While the Parliamentarian examines the Bill, we'll recognize the Gentleman from Cook, Representative

Keane. Keane

Keane. Keane: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just a point of clarification. I was in the meeting, otherwise I would have been very happy to sign this Conference Committee Report. I have no problems with it and will be voting 'aye' for it."

Speaker Young

"We're informed that the Conference Committee Report on the first page, line 18, deletes the Section of the underlying Bill that had an immediate effective date."

Black

"Right. You're right. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Young

"Representative McPike to close."

McPike

"Well, as all Conference Committee Reports, this has more than one Section in it. It is the only RTA vehicle, I believe, that we had this year and so the RTA asked for some small changes and we accommodated them. And the City of Chicago asked for a change in the collection of the taxes on cars, and we accommodated them with an agreement with the new car dealers to provide for changes in the brokerage language. Now let me emphasize that in order to continue to do what you have done in the past, you simply have to get a $50 license from the Secretary of State. This is not that burdensome on someone who wants to continue to sell cars who does not happen to be a car dealer in town. It requires the purchase of a $50 license. I think the provisions in this Bill are extremely 87 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 reasonable and would move for the adoption of the Conference Committee Report."

Speaker Young

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of the First Conference...the Second Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3793. All those in favor vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Representative Cowlishaw."

Cowlishaw

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, in explaining my vote, earlier today there was a good deal of misunderstanding, and I was given two or three different answers when I asked whether the Illinois Press Association had any position on this Bill. I have just hung up from talking to Dave Bennett at the Illinois Press Association Office, and he has confirmed that indeed the Illinois Press Association is opposed to this Conference Committee Report."

Speaker Young

"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 63 voting 'yes', 37 voting 'no', 7 voting 'present'. Representative Kirkland, for what purpose do you seek recognition? Representative Kirkland."

Kirkland

"Verification, please."

Speaker Young

"Representative Kirkland asks for a Verification of the affirmative vote."

Kirkland

"Help."

Speaker Young

"Representative Kirkland withdraws that request. On this question there are 63 voting 'yes', 37 voting 'no', 37..."

Kirkland

"I didn't withdraw the request. I did not withdraw the request."

Speaker Young

"I did hear you say no into the microphone."

Kirkland

"No, I was speaking to somebody else. My..."

Speaker Young

"Representative McPike requests a Poll of the 88 146th Legislative Day Absentees."

O'Brien

STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE "Poll of those not voting. November 30, 1990 Flowers. Harris. Homer. Shirley Jones. Krska. LeFlore. Stange and Turner. No further."

Speaker Young

"Poll of the affirmative vote. Representative Currie votes 'aye'. Representative Kirkland, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

Kirkland

"Just waiting to begin the verification."

Speaker Young

"Okay, poll of the affirmative vote."

O'Brien

"Balanoff. Barnes. Brunsvold. Bugielski. Capparelli. Churchill. Cullerton. Curran. Currie. Daniels. Davis. DeJaegher. DeLeo. Didrickson. Edley. Ewing. Farley. Giglio. Giorgi. Goforth. Granberg. Hannig. Hartke. Hicks. Hoffman. Lou Jones. Keane. Kubik. Lang. Laurino. Leverenz. Levin. Martinez. Mautino. McAuliffe. McGann. McNamara. McPike. Morrow. Mulcahey. Munizzi. Novak. W. Peterson. Phelps. Rice. Ronan. Ryder. Santiago. Shaw. Steczo. Stephens. Stern. Sutker. Tenhouse. Terzich. Trotter. Van Duyne. Wennlund. White. Williams. Wolf. Anthony Young. Wyvetter Younge and Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Young

"Representative Kirkland, questions of the affirmative vote."

Kirkland

"Thank you. Representative Flinn?"

Speaker Young

"Representative Monroe Flinn. Is...how is the Gentleman recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman is voting 'present'."

Kirkland

"Nice start...nice start."

Speaker Young

"Representative Preston votes 'aye'. Representative LeFlore votes 'aye'."

Kirkland

"Representative Barnes?"

Barnes

"Representative Barnes. Is the Lady in the chamber? How is she recorded?" 89 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990

O'Brien

"The Lady is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove her from the Roll Call."

Kirkland

"Representative DeJaegher?"

Speaker Young

"Representative DeJaegher. How is the Gentleman recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove him from the Roll Call."

Kirkland

"Representative Farley?"

Speaker Young

"Representative Farley. How is the Gentleman recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove him from the Roll Call."

Kirkland

"Representative Giglio?"

Speaker Young

"Representative Giglio. How is the Gentleman recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove him from the Roll Call."

Kirkland

"Representative Lou Jones?"

Speaker Young

"Representative Lou Jones. How is the Lady recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Lady is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove her from the Roll Call. Representative Williamson votes 'aye'. Representative Piel votes 'aye'."

Kirkland

"Representative Mulcahey?"

Speaker Young

"Representative Mulcahey. How is the Gentleman recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove him from the Roll Call. Representative Weller votes 'aye'."

Kirkland

"Representative Morrow?"

Speaker Young

"Representative Morrow. How is the Gentleman recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'." 90 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day

Speaker Young

"Remove him from the Roll Call." November 30, 1990

Kirkland

"Representative Mulca... Excuse me, Representative Ronan?"

Speaker Young

"Representative Ronan. How is the Gentleman recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Representative Satterthwaite votes Representative Hallock votes 'aye'."

Kirkland

"Representative Terzich?" 'aye'.

Speaker Young

"Excuse me. Representative Satterthwaite votes 'aye' and Representative Hallock votes 'aye'."

Kirkland

"Representative Terzich?"

Speaker Young

"Remove Representative Ronan from the Roll Call."

Kirkland

"Thank you."

Speaker Young

"How is Representative Terzich recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove him from the Roll Call."

Kirkland

"Representative Williams?"

Speaker Young

"How is Representative Williams recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove him from the Roll."

Kirkland

"Representative Shaw?"

Speaker Young

"How is Representative Shaw recorded?"

O'Brien

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove him from the Roll."

Kirkland

"Representative Stern?"

Speaker Young

"How is Representative Stern recorded as voting? How is Representative Stern recorded as voting?"

O'Brien

"The Lady is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove her from the Roll Call."

Kirkland

"Representative Hannig?"

Speaker Young

"Representative Hannig. Is Representative Hannig in the chamber? How is he recorded?" 91 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990

O'Brien

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove him from the Roll."

Kirkland

"Representative Santiago?"

Speaker Young

"Representative Johnson, for what purpose do you seek..."

Johnson

"Change my vote from 'present' to 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Representative Johnson votes 'aye'. Is Representative Santiago in the chamber? How is Representative Santiago..."

O'Brien

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

Speaker Young

"Remove him from the Roll Call. Representative Noland votes 'aye'. Representative Barger votes 'aye'. Representative Pullen votes 'aye'."

Kirkland

"Representative Trotter?"

Speaker Young

"Just one second. Pullen 'aye' and Barger 'aye'. And Representative Farley has returned to the chamber and votes 'aye'. Representative Bowman votes 'aye'. Representative Countryman votes 'aye'."

Kirkland

"Representative Trotter, please."

Speaker Young

"Remove Representative Trotter from the Roll. Record Representative Zickus...as voting 'aye' and Representative Pedersen as voting 'aye'."

Kirkland

"Representative Shirley Jones?"

Speaker Young

"Just one second please, Representative. Zickus 'aye', Pedersen 'aye'...Bernard Pedersen. Representative Virginia Frederick votes 'aye'. Representative Ackerman votes 'aye'."

Kirkland

"Did I mention, Representative, we'll try a couple more and then I think we're... No, that's it. Thank you."

Speaker Young

"Representative Harris votes 'aye'. On this question there are 68 voting 'yes', 22 voting 'no', 5 voting 'present'. This Motion having received the required Constitutional Majority and the House does adopt the Second 92 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 Conference Committee Report for House Bill 3793. Senate Bill 1842, Representative Curran."

Curran

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move the adoption of the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1842. Essentially this Conference Committee Report does two things. It extends an exemption from immunization...I'd like to take it out of the record."

Speaker Young

"Out of the record. Senate Joint Resolution 228, Representative Younge."

Younge

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Pursuant to Rule 43(a), I move to bypass Committee and place on the Speaker's Table for immediate consideration Senate Joint Resolution 228."

Speaker Young

"The Lady has moved to bypass Committee and place on the Speaker's Table for immediate consideration Senate Joint Resolution 228. Is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Madison, Representative Stephens."

Stephens

"Well, I wonder if the Lady would explain the Resolution?"

Younge

"Yes, Representative Stephens, this Resolution calls for an investigation of the State Department of Police in reference to their handling the matter of investigating the missing report of four people who were drowned in a car as they were traveling from Mt. Vernon to Haiti, Missouri. You'll recall this event happened on the 2nd of October and these bodies were not discovered for 44 days."

Stephens

"Okay, thank you, Representative. Thank you very much. Mr. Speaker, to the...the Lady is well intentioned, I am sure, in her remarks and in her Motion, but I have to tell you that that is not timely. The Department of State Police obviously in their quest to continue their professionalism have investigated and have discussed this case. They have admitted that it was poor police work. They admit that they will take corrective action. It is 93 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 not timely for this Body or the Senate to make any recommendations for investigations into this particular incident. It is not appropriate, untimely and an insult to the department that has proven itself...proved itself to be very professional in its administration and the police work that they do. So I would stand in opposition to the Lady's Motion."

Speaker Young

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative McNamara."

McNamara

"Just an inquiry of the Chair. On the Resolution that was being described, I thought it said...on my copy here it says Joint Resolution 160. Do I have a confusion of numbers or what?"

Speaker Young

"You're looking at Supplemental #1. We are on Supplemental #2."

McNamara

"So the House Joint Resolution 160..."

Speaker Young

"Is not what we are discussing at this time, Representative McNamara. We're on Senate Joint Resolution 228, House Supplemental #2."

McNamara

"Then question. Has that been printed and distributed?"

Speaker Young

"Yes, it has. The Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black."

Black

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. An inquiry of the Chair. Pursuant to Rule 43(a) by bypassing Committee and asking for immediate consideration, would the Lady's Motion require...not require 71 votes?"

Speaker Young

"You are correct, Representative Black."

Black

"Thank you very much."

Speaker Young

"The Motion requires 71 votes."

Black

"Thank you."

Speaker Young

"Further discussion? Representative Younge to close." 94 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 146th Legislative Day

Younge

"Thank you very much. This matter is a matter that was investigated by the State Police at my request. After the investigation by the State Police by Mr. Margolis, Mr. Fletcher of that department said that there would be no public disclosure as to the outcome of the investigation. I believe that the people of the State of Illinois have a right to know what was the outcome of that investigation. After this Motion and after this Resolution was passed by the Senate and proceed to the House, Mr. Margolis said that he came to the House Floor and said that he would cooperate totally with the...this Body in reference to this Committee's work. This matter is very urgent in that this family was missing for 44 days. There is great question, as admitted by the Department of State Police in the handling of this investigation. I believe that we as a Body, I believe that the people of the State of Illinois are entitled to a full disclosure as to how this investigation was conducted and what happened to these people. One thing that we're supposed to do here is to maintain and guarantee the peace and tranquility of this state. By the way this matter was handled, many people are put in fear and trepidation in the southern area of this state. And I believe that every Legislator that represents the southern part of this state ought to be joining with me in order to quiet the waters, for there to be a full disclosure in order to see has the State Department of Police corrected its procedures, so that there...this will never happen to any other family. And for those reasons and the fact that this should be done immediately since these people were first reported missing on the 2nd of October, I ask you, I implore you to join with me to have this matter be given immediate consideration so that we can act on it now." 95 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990

Speaker Young

"The Lady moves for immediate consideration. All those in favor vote 'aye', those...all those in favor vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Representative Hicks to explain his vote."

Hicks

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I join the Lady in the request to have this Resolution heard now. You know, these people originated in my community in Jefferson County. It was 44 days before this car was actually looked into and checked into. I think it's something we ought to be looking at. If it happens in your community, you have people that disappear from your community and are gone for 44 days before anything is found, even though the car was seen days and days before. It should be looked at; it ought to be looked at. Now it's something we ought to concern ourselves with."

Speaker Young

"Representative Ewing, one minute to explain his vote."

Ewing

"Yes, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I think that we should be very careful in passing that out...this out on the last day. There's certainly no reason that the Sponsor of this Resolution couldn't bring this to the attention of the proper Committee when we begin our deliberations next Session. This isn't something that we need to rush through, and I think it has some very serious drawbacks. There are a number or at least several inaccuracies in the Resolution. And let's send this to Committee where it belongs and have it properly heard. Thank you."

Speaker Young

"Have all voted who wish? Representative Younge, to explain your vote, one minute. Representative Phelps, one minute to explain his vote."

Phelps

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I join in the sponsorship of Representative Younge in this inquiry. I think it's important that we in this 96 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 Body are accessed of the practices and the policies of which the leading law enforcement agency of this state would go about in trying to protect the families, missing families, and search, and in this instance I believe there was a great negligence. And I think that we just need some facts and figures brought back to us to see what happened."

Speaker Young

"Representative Younge, one minute to explain her vote."

Younge

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think that the very high regard that each of us has for the State Police Department requires that we favorably vote on this Resolution. It is important that a certain level of professionalism be maintained and Mr. Margolis, the Superintendent of the State Police, has said that he will cooperate totally, totally with the Committee that will be looking into this. And I ask you, please, to support my Resolution and my desire to hear this immediately. This matter has gone on since the 2nd of October. The family has not been advised at all as to what happened to their loved ones. We're talking about four people in a car that left Mt. Vernon on the 2nd of October. We're talking about the bodies of these four people..."

Speaker Young

"Bring your remarks to a close."

Younge

"...not being discovered until after the Channel 4 helicopter identified where the car was in a river. The State Police had seen that car on three occasions, but had not investigated that. I'm asking you on behalf of this family, I'm asking you on behalf of the people of this state, that you permit this matter to be discussed and debated right now SO that there can be an immediate investigation and there can be a report by the 8th of January."

Speaker Young

"Have all voted who wish? Representative McGann, 97 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 one minute to explain his vote."

McGann

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the Assembly. I want it to be known this afternoon that I have great respect for law enforcement. I also have great respect for the Illinois State Police. But I don't believe that any agency of government is totally immune to either investigation or criticism. Just this morning on a mental health issue, it was brought to my attention and it took over three weeks to investigate a case of abuse by the Illinois State Police. I cannot give you any further in-depth details of this issue because it is under investigation at the present time. But to think of four people that God had called for one reason or another being in a car, left abandoned without attention, when efforts were made through the State Police to please look after these missing persons, but with no avail. This is totally wrong, and we must all stand up and admit that this is totally wrong. We are not indicting the Illinois State Police by this SJR. We are not finding them innocent or guilty. All we're doing is having an investigation. It could happen to any one of us or any one of our families. Let's not allow it to happen again. Let's have this looked into by this Committee and come back with a report that may put all of our minds to rest. I ask you to please support this SJR."

Speaker Young

"Representative Hartke to explain his vote."

Hartke

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. You know I'm really confused when I look at all the yellow votes over there. As Representative McGann said, this is not an indictment of the State Police. We're just asking for some answers to some questions. Each and every one of us in downstate Illinois as Legislators travel at night, sometimes faster than we should, but I would hate to think what my wife and 98 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 loved ones would think if I were to disappear for 24 hours, let alone 44 days, and then later to learn that reports were out there that my car was seen, and they did nothing to investigate it. You know, I travel along the interstates and each and every one of us do. And we find cars on the side of the road with orange stickers on, and I suppose that's an indication that that car has been investigated for some reason or another. I urge you to vote 'yes' on this, just for this investigation. They may be innocent of fault, but I think we ought to look into it."

Speaker Young

"Representative Stephens, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

Stephens

"On behalf of the integrity of the Department of State Police, to seek a verification should this get the requisite number of votes."

Speaker Young

"Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 64 voting 'yes', 5 voting 'no', 40 voting 'present' and the Motion fails. House Bill 2570, Representative Capparelli."

Capparelli

"Mr. Speaker, I'm sorry that I'm bringing this up once again, but it's my understanding that everything's been agreed upon, and I would ask to concur with Senate Bill (sic - House Bill) 2570 on Amendments 1 and 2."

Speaker Young

"The Gentleman moves that the House concurs on Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2570. On that question, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black."

Black

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. To the Amendment #1, I had been one of those who had raised a question about, as did Representative Harris, the language on page 11, lines 21 through 23. We asked Mary Barber of the Illinois Student Assistance Commission to come over and talk with 99 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 us. I think she's still on the floor and able to talk to any of you if you were as confused about that as I was a little while ago. But to the point, the Student Assistance Commission has assured me that, and it's there intent that this does not obligate the State Treasury in any way, shape or form in which they are not already so obligated, that it is simply a technical change in how these loans are structured, that the loans, in fact, are...have been re-insured by the Federal Government. It's my only concern was that we sometimes act very quickly here, and that we might be subjecting scarce General Revenue Funds to additional pressures. The Student Assistance Commission has satisfied my inquiry that that is not the case, and I certainly then have no objection to Amendment #1 to this Bill."

Speaker Young

"Further discussion? The question is, 'Shall the House concur on Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2570?' All those in favor vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Representative Hicks to explain his vote."

Hicks

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I'm not going to insist on a verification with 98 votes, that's for sure, but at the same point in time, it looks like I'm going to be the only one voting 'no'. It hasn't clarified my problems with...and that problem being you're borrowing 1.3 million dollars, I believe, in which you're borrowing from one fund within the office to go to another fund within the office. I think there is a problem in the office that should be identified by the Members of this House and should not be taken...this way in which that we're not doing our job by looking at what these different funds are doing. That's what our job is. I think it's a wrong vote to be voting green on it. I'm voting 'no', and if I'm the 100 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 only one, I'll be the only one. Thank you."

Speaker Young

"Representative McGann to explain his vote." McGann: I "Mr. Speaker and Members of the Assembly, in the case that may have a possible conflict of interest, I am voting 'present'." Mr. Clerk, take the are 96 voting 'yes', 2

Speaker Young

"Have all voted who wish? record. On this question there voting 'no' and 8 voting 'present', and these Amendments having received the required Three-Fifths Constitutional Majority, the House does concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2, and this Bill is hereby passed. House Resolutions. House Resolution 2455."

O'Brien

Clerk O'Brien: "House Resolution 2455, offered by Speaker Madigan. WHEREAS, The House of Representatives will suffer a great loss upon the retirement of Chief Journal Clerk Mary Holmes on December 31, 1990; and WHEREAS, Rarely do we fully appreciate the efforts of a dedicated employee who perseveres beyond the impossible; and WHEREAS, Mary Holmes began her distinguished career in the Clerk's Office, Journal Room, before the age of computers, in the days of part time Sessions, offices located in a briefcase and cut and paste Calendars; and WHEREAS, This Lady is well known by all-co-workers, Legislators, lobbyists, reporters and family and friends alike--for her devotion, for her sense of style, leadership skills and compassion in the face of long grueling hours of Session, only allowing her "Session Face" to show when human endurance meets with mechanical difficulties; and WHEREAS, Twenty years of a person's life and career transcend 101 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 the scope of words to express the feelings of how much we will all miss Mary; for she has set an example of dignity and spirit of public service which will remain shining within the Journal Room; and WHEREAS, From 1951 to 1958, Mary was married to the late Chuck Gillespie, and they had four children: Janet Drendel (husband Gene Drendel), Rick, Gary (wife Jane), and Tommy Gillespie; and WHEREAS, Married from 1961 until the present to Albert Holmes, Mary is the mother of Lynn Holmes Giacomini and Michael Holmes, who is married to Ann; and WHEREAS, Mary and Albert are proud grandparents of seven; and WHEREAS, With grace and style, Mary Holmes has combined a career with motherhood, and her inspiring presence in the Journal Room will be remembered by all who knew her; therefore, be it RESOLVED, BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE EIGHTY-SIXTH GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, that we hereby express our gratitude to Mary Holmes for the service she has rendered to the Legislature, and extend our best wishes to her for a long and happy retirement; and be it further RESOLVED, That a suitable copy of this preamble and resolution be presented to Mary Holmes."

Speaker Young

"Representative Giorgi."

Giorgi

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and I would like to really...I should... John Matijevich should be doing this today, because he's always the fellow that checked on the Journal and see that we were getting our just results from those lovely people up there. But John is recovering from an eye operation, so I volunteered to say some of the things that took place in the Journal Room. But you know, we take 102 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 credit for running the House and when a constituent calls and we want to know where a Resolution is or where a Senate Joint Resolution is or where a Bill is or a Senate is...or Senate Bill is or where a Roll Call's at, it's Mary Holmes and her crew that keep this House in continuity. It's that...it's their crew that keep the records so that we can brag about what an orderly House we have, and when we give a reporter or our constituents information from our House, it's always accurate. And I know, naturally, Mary since the day she started. I've always known her as a classy lady. She's always been enthusiastic, always persevering. She always had a smile on her face, in the meantime she was a little dinamo and she had to grow up with these computers. She's done a great job and I'd like to...on behalf of John Matijevich and myself wish her a bountiful retirement and keep happy, Mary. You've done a great job. Thank you."

Speaker Young

"Representative Daniels."

Daniels

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I would be remiss if I didn't offer our congratulations and thanks to Mary as well. And a reminder to all of you that this lady has been so good in her efforts and so excellent that when George Ryan was Speaker of the House, he kept her as the chief as well. So those of us on the Republican side appreciate very much all of your tremendous efforts and wish you absolutely the best in the future years. Thank you."

Speaker Young

"Representative Curran."

Curran

"Mary, you'll be able to tell from my voice I don't have many words in me, but you have been a treasure here in Springfield. Those of us in Springfield who have gotten to know you well really love you, have great mixed emotions on this day because we know you're going to be going on to do 103 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 things that you want to do all day, everyday, but we're sure going to miss you. Godspeed."

Speaker Young

"Representative Giorgi now asks leave of the Body to have Mary address the House. Leave is granted." Holmes, Mary: "I asked them that I not be asked to do this because I'm going to cry. I looked forward to this day and I'm happy, but I will miss everybody and miss the work and the girls and everyone. And I appreciate the courtesies that were given to me by everyone, and this has been my second home for twenty years and I've loved it. Thank you."

Speaker Young

"Representative Giorgi asks leave for all Members to be added to the Resolution. Leave is granted by use of the Attendance Roll Call, and the Resolution is adopted. Adjournment Resolution."

O'Brien

"Senate Joint Resolution 229. Resolved by the Senate of the 86th General Assembly of the State of Illinois, the House of Representatives concurring herein, when the two Houses adjourn on Friday, November 30, 1990, they stand adjourned until Tuesday, January 8, 1991, at twelve o'clock noon."

Speaker Young

"Resolution moves the... Representative McPike moves for the adoption of the Adjournment Resolution. All those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Adjournment Resolution is adopted. We have a Death Resolution of a former Member to adjourn on before everyone leaves the chamber. Agreed Resolutions."

O'Brien

"Senate Joint Resolution 223, Martinez; House Resolution 220...2459, Lang; 2460, Johnson; 2462, Johnson and 2463, Johnson."

Speaker Young

"Representative Giorgi moves the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All those in favor say 'aye', those 104 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day opposed say 'no'. have it and the Resolution."

O'Brien

November 30, 1990 In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Death "House Resolution 2461, offered by Representative Johnson with respect to the memory of Loyd Boley; House Resolution 2447, offered by Representative Leverenz..."

Speaker Young

"Representative McPike moves for the adoption of the Death Resolution. All those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Resolution is adopted. Resolutions."

O'Brien

"House Resolution 2447, Leverenz."

General Speaker Young

General Speaker Young: "Committee on Assignment. Death Resolution of former Member." a

Leone

"House Resolution 2409, offered by Representative Daniels, Madigan et al. WHEREAS, The members of this House were saddened to learn of the death of former State Representative Paul J. Randolph; and WHEREAS, Paul Randolph represented the people of Chicago's Near North Side in the House for 32 years; and WHEREAS, Upon his retirement from the House in 1976, Paul Randolph was the dean of Republican members in the General Assembly; and WHEREAS, Paul Randolph served as chairman of the House Revenue Committee for 17 years and also held the posts of head of the Illinois Commission on Economic Development, member of the Illinois Economic and Fiscal Commission, member of the Illinois Bicentennial Commission and member of the Chicago Regional Port District; and WHEREAS, Paul Randolph was one of the original backers of the 105 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 Regional Transportation Authority to operate commuter trains and buses in the six-county Chicago area; and WHEREAS, He led the fight for the University of Illinois campus in Chicago; and WHEREAS, Paul Randolph was born in Logan County, where he still owned a farm at the time of his death; and WHEREAS, Paul Randolph moved to Chicago when he got his first job in the city, living there the rest of his life; and WHEREAS, Paul Randolph was active in his party as Republican Committeeman for the 42nd Ward; and WHEREAS, He was active in the Fourth Presbyterian Church as one of its trustees, earning the nickname "Mr. Fourth Church"; and WHEREAS, Paul Randolph will be missed by his many friends, who were fortunate enough to know him; therefore, be it RESOLVED, BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE EIGHTY-SIXTH GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, that we do hereby express our heartfelt sympathies to Paul Randolph's wife, Florence, his family and his friends; and be it further RESOLVED, That we remember Paul Randolph for his dedicated service to the people of this State and the community he represented; and be it further RESOLVED, That a suitable copy of this preamble and resolution be presented to Florence Randolph, as a token of our sorrow at her loss."

Speaker Young

"Representative Ewing."

Ewing

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Paul Randolph and I originated in the same county, in Logan County, Illinois. And when I came down here, Paul Randolph 106 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 had already been in this Body for many years, but he recognized real talent from Logan County, and he took me under his wing and was extremely...extremely helpful to me. And he was always a close friend of mine. I went on to serve on the Revenue Committee where Paul Randolph was an institution. Paul Randolph and I use to discuss farming. Paul Randolph had a farm in Logan County which he cherished very greatly. And we continued to be friends after he left the Legislature and he continued to come back and use my office, and always stopped by and had a kind word and was always ready to help the Republican Party and the Members...all the Members of this Body, but he never forgot the support for his Party. He was a good family man, certainly a Gentleman, a Gentleman that we can all be very proud of and proud to know. And I was, indeed, saddened to see of his death, and I would like to be...always remember him as that very dapper, very well dressed, very cosmopolitan Gentleman from the City of Chicago. Thank you."

Speaker Young

"Representative Daniels."

Daniels

"Well, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Paul Randolph served this Assembly and the people of Chicago and the State of Illinois for thirty-two years. Seventeen of those years he served as Chairman of the Revenue Committee. Those of us that had the privilege of knowing, working and serving and calling Paul as a friend knew that we had met a Gentleman, a statesman, and an individual who would mark our lives for many, many years to come. Those of you that knew him, that worked with him, that met him on the trail always knew the smile he had on his face. Those of you that knew him knew that his service to the Fourth Church, Fourth Presbyterian Church, which distinguished him amongst so many people in the City of 107 146th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE November 30, 1990 Chicago was at the highest level. I was proud to know Paul Randolph. I know you were too. He came from the city; he was a Republican, he was a Gentleman. I'm proud and pleased to have had the opportunity to share part of his career with him, and I know he has served us all well."

Speaker Young

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Farley."

Farley

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'd also like to add my condolences to the Randolph family. I knew Paul Randolph, served with him also on the Revenue Committee and, in fact, would drive Paul back and forth to Springfield many times. And his wife would provide us with some cookies on the way and I remember Paul saying, 'You ready to go, Farley?' And I'd say, 'Whenever you are, Senator.' And we just had delightful conversations. He was a gentle man, a real Republican in the pure sense of the word and a credit to his Party, a credit to this chamber. And without saying too much more blithering the subject matter, but I would add my condolences and certainly want to be added to the Resolution."

Speaker Young

"Representative Pullen."

Pullen

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Paul Randolph certainly was all those things that have been said about him today. He was also one who did often come back and see us after he retired from this place. And he never seemed to age. He was always the same, always pleasant, always caring, always the same Paul Randolph. He was in his own right an institution and he made this institution a more respectable place, a more gentle place. He was, indeed, a leader in the Republican Party that will be sorely missed by not only Republicans but by many people in Illinois. And knowing how many times he has continued to come back here to be with us, we'll certainly, although he has not been a Member 108 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 for quite some time, we certainly will miss Paul Randolph."

Speaker Young

"Representative Breslin."

Breslin

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, I had a different relationship with Paul Randolph and that was that when I was a kid in college, I worked a precinct in the 42nd Ward and it was Paul Randolph's precinct. He always was so kind to me. I have to tell you that he beat me every single election in that Lake Shore Precinct, but he always got a kick out of the fact that the Democratic Precinct Captain came to the Legislature just like he had. So he was a wonderful, wonderful Gentleman and a great public servant."

Speaker Young

"Representative Hallock."

Hallock

"Well, I, too, attended college and law school, like Peg did, in Chicago and had a chance to know Paul Randolph for twenty years when I was actually in politics back in those days. And Paul Randolph truly was a statesman and a fine fellow. I must say that in addition to many others, including Lee Daniels and Zeke Giorgi, my family and others, I learned a lot of what I know today about politics from Paul Randolph. He always was a tremendous fellow, always very kind, always a Gentleman, always willing to help out those who needed help at any point in time, truly a statesman, one who, I think, will be long remembered by this Body and others throughout all of Illinois. As a person he really cared about people and did...always did his best. And so I'd truly like to be added as a Cosponsor of this Resolution."

Speaker Young

"Representative Daniels moves that all Members be added to the Resolution. Leave is granted. All those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no' and the Resolution is adopted. Further Death Resolutions."

Leone

"Offered by Representative Daniels et al, House 109 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day Resolution 2457. November 30, 1990 WHEREAS, the members of this assembly were saddened to learn of the death of their long-time friend and colleague, Edward McBroom; and WHEREAS, many of us in the Illinois House were privileged to have worked with this dedicated lawmaker and witness his steadfast commitment to public service on behalf of the people of the Kankakee area and the state of Illinois; and WHEREAS, Representative McBroom's roots were in Kankakee, where he was born February 18, 1925, and where he lived his entire life, and began his public service career; and WHEREAS, he served his country honorably in the United States Navy during World War II, and upon his return, he graduated from the University of Illinois' College of Commerce in 1950; and WHEREAS, Edward McBroom soon entered public life when he was elected Kankakee County Republican Chairman, an office in which he served with great distinction from 1952 to 1962 and from 1969 to 1988; and WHEREAS, in 1962, Ed McBroom ran a successful campaign and joined the ranks of the Illinois House of Representatives; and WHEREAS, in 1966, Ed McBroom extended his commitment to public life by being elected to the Illinois Senate, where he served until 1975; and WHEREAS, as a member of the Senate, Ed McBroom was a recognized leader, who was called upon to be the Spokesman of the Senate Appropriations Committee which manages the state budget, and during his tenure, Senator McBroom made numerous contributions as a member of the Senate Executive, Transportation and Public Utilities, and Elections and Reappropriations Committees; and 110 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 WHEREAS, during his years in the Senate, Ed McBroom also served as a member of the Legislative Audit Commission and the Illinois Commission on Intergovernmental Cooperation; and WHEREAS, Ed McBroom was again elected to the Illinois House of Representatives in 1976, and served there until 1982, during which time he again took on a leadership role as Minority Spokesman for the House Financial Institutions Committee; and WHEREAS, he served his community and his state faithfully, and was deeply committed to his work with the Kankakee Shrine Club, the Medinah Temple in Chicago, the Kankakee Masonic Lodge, and the Bloomington Consistory; and WHEREAS, in his life, Ed McBroom achieved the 32nd Degree as a Mason; and WHEREAS, he was an active community leader through his membership in the Kankakee Elks, Moose, American Legion, Farm Bureau and the Union League of Chicago; and WHEREAS, Ed McBroom was a successful businessman as the owner and president of McBroom Cadillac in Kankakee; and WHEREAS, due to his relentless efforts to improve the quality of life of the people of his legislative district, and the people of the state of Illinois, Ed McBroom has the deepest respect of lawmakers on both sides of the aisle and in both chambers; and WHEREAS, Ed McBroom's lifetime of devotion to the highest ideals and standards of his profession and political party exemplify the goals of representative democracy; now therefore be it RESOLVED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE 86TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY, that we hereby express our deep gratitude to Edward 111 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day McBroom, for his countless contributions Illinois and November 30, 1990 to the citizens of further express our heartfelt sympathy to his wife, Sharon; his son, Victor, and other family members, and be it further RESOLVED, that suitable copies of this preamble and resolution be presented to the family of Edward McBroom."

Speaker Young

Daniels

"Representative Daniels." a He to "A distinguished career, a statesman and an individual who when we served with him in the Illinois General Assembly, we knew the positions that he took were ones that he believed in strongly for he represented his district so well for so many years. As you know, he was born in 1925 and he's a graduate of the University of Illinois. served as Kankakee County Republican Chairman from 1952 1962 and from 1969 to 1988. Those of us, yes, in Republican Politics, knew Ed McBroom and knew him well. We knew his name and if you ever came up against him time, you knew that you were in a tremendous fight, because he was a person that really knew his area and really knew what politics was all about. He served in the House and he served in the Senate. He came back to the House, and that's when I joined Ed McBroom and the Illinois General Assembly. He was a close, personal friend of George Ryan, now our Secretary of State. And to George Ryan I know this is a personal loss of a personal friend, who was a mentor and a colleague to him. We knew of Ed's illness for some time, and we watched his health fail. But we knew during the time that he was alive, he did so much. As you look at his Resolution you know that in the Shrine Club, Medinah Temple, Elks, Moose, American Legion, Farm Bureau and the Union League Club of Chicago and he loved them all. And he always spoke so highly of the people in the House and the 112 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 Senate and the meaningful nature of politics and the meaningful nature of service in government. He exemplified the best. And to those of us that remain, to those of us that continue on, we all knew that Ed McBroom represented us, and we're grateful for the opportunity to have called him our friend and our colleague."

Speaker Young

"Representative Ewing."

Ewing

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, when I first moved to Livingston County in 1962, Ed McBroom was my State Representative, and I immediately got active in Republican politics in that county, and I worked with Ed McBroom over the years that he represented Livingston County. Later I had the privilege to serve down here with Ed McBroom in the House. And he was a great friend, a very good politician and we'll all miss Ed McBroom. Ed McBroom was synonymous with 'Mr. Republican' in Kankakee County."

Speaker Young

"Representative Novak."

Novak

"Thanks, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would also like to offer my condolences to his wife, Sharon and to Vic, who I know very well. I've lived in Kankakee County now for about eighteen years, and when I first moved up from Charleston, Illinois, after graduate school, one of the first names I heard was Ed McBroom and his father, Victor McBroom, who was a very powerful politician in Kankakee County, who served in the Illinois Senate. Yes, Ed McBroom was 'Mr. Republican' in Kankakee. He knew everybody, because he could tell you who their first names were. When I was county chairman for about three years, Ed asked me one time, he says, 'How do you like the job, Phil?' I says...at that time I was county treasurer also, I says, 'Well, it's got its headaches, but I guess there's some benefits to it.' He says, 'Yeah, but the longer you stay in it, the more enemies you make cause 113 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 you can never satisfy anybody.' And those people, I'm sure, that have been county chairmen before or county chairwomen before would certainly agree with that. Ed was a fine man, an honorable man, a gentleman. He always let you knew (sic know) where he stood. And that's about all you could ask from a person from the opposite political party is honesty and integrity. And I'll really miss him and I wish his family all the luck in the world. And Ed was a good guy and we got along real well, and I think this whole Body should be added to the Death Resolution. you."

Speaker Young

"Representative Weller."

Weller

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Ed McBroom was a legend in the local area, and I came to know him best really in the years after he left the Illinois General Assembly. I got to know Ed McBroom, of course, during my campaigns and while working with many others in their campaigns. Ed McBroom, I always remember as a man who always took time to talk with people who came to see him. And one lesson that he always made very clear to all those who came to know Ed McBroom and that is that when someone comes to you for assistance, that you have to remember that that request, no matter how big or how small, is probably the most important thing in the world to that person seeking that assistance. And that was one point Ed made very clear to me very early on in our relationship. And I express my condolences to Sharon and his family and Ed McBroom is someone I will miss."

Speaker Young

"Representative Daniels asks leave to have all Members join on to the Death Resolution. Leave is granted. All those in favor of the Resolution say 'aye', those opposed say 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it and the Resolution is adopted. The House...The House does now stand adjourned 114 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day November 30, 1990 until January 8 at the hour of twelve o'clock." 115 REPORT: TIFLDAY PAGE: 001 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX NOVEMBER 30, 1990 HB-2570 POSTPONED CONSIDERATION HB-2570 CONCURRENCE 91/02/28 12:54:16 PAGE 99 PAGE 59 HB-3037 MOTION PAGE 71 HB-3777 CONFERENCE PAGE 41 HB-3793 CONFERENCE PAGE 81 H8-4126 CONFERENCE PAGE 75 SB-1086 SECOND READING PAGE 2 SB-1093 SECOND READING PAGE 38 SB-1098 THIRD READING PAGE 39 SB-1310 REFUSE TO RECEDE PAGE 41 SB-1523 VETO ACTION PAGE 37 S3-1842 CONFERENCE PAGE 93 SB-1842 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 93 S8-2309 CONFERENCE PAGE 43 HR-2409 ADOPTED PAGE 109 HR-2409 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 105 HR-2411 ADOPTED PAGE 36 HR-2419 MOTION PAGE 7 HR-2440 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 46 HR-2441 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 30 HR-2449 ADOPTED PAGE 28 HR-2449 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 19 HR-2455 ADOPTED PAGE 104 HR-2455 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 101 HR-2457 ADOPTED PAGE 114 HR-2457 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 110 HJR-0158 MOTION PAGE 44 SJR-0147 ADOPTED PAGE 46 SJR-0147 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 45 SJR-0228 MOTION PAGE 93 SJR-0229 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 104 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER SPEAKER BRESLIN PAGE 1 PRAYER PASTOR HOUG PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE I AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 8 DEATH RESOLUTIONS PAGE 8 INTRODUCTION BILL HARRIS PAGE 8 FAREWELL REPRESENTATIVE BOWMAN PAGE 9 REPRESENTATIVE LAURINO IN THE CHAIR PAGE 19 MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE PAGE 29 REPRESENTATIVE YOUNG IN THE CHAIR PAGE 52 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 59 REPRESENTATIVE KEANE IN THE CHAIR PAGE 77 REPRESENTATIVE YOUNG IN THE CHAIR PAGE 86 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 104 DEATH RESOLUTIONS PAGE 104 GENERAL RESOLUTIONS PAGE 104 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 115