Illinois House Floor Debate — June 26, 1991

"House will come to order. The Chaplain for today is the Reverend Doug Lowery from Maranatha Assembly of God in Decatur. Reverend Lowery is the guest of Representative Noland. Our guests in the gallery may wish to rise for the invocation. Reverend Lowery."

"Let's bow our hearts in prayer. Heavenly Father, we thank You for the wonderful day You've given to us here. We thank You for the many freedoms and liberties that we enjoy in our country and this state, and according to Your word, Lord, we're to pray for those who have rule over us, and SO do we ask for Your divine blessing and guidance now upon this Session. We pray, Lord, that You would help us to always honor You in every decision that we make, and it would also bring help in genuine strength to people. Now, bless this day and these Members of the House. We just commit this entire day to Your hands and Your keeping for it's in Jesus' name we pray. Amen."

"We'll be led in the Pledge by Representative Ropp."

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Representative Matijevich."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. On this side of the aisle there will soon be one more Democrat. ...Representative Mary Flowers excused for...excused absence. The word I've got, very close, moment... expecting momentarily. Maybe by the time I finish this sentence she...she may have that baby. Good luck, Mary." 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

"Representative Matijevich." June 26, 1991

"Well, I just got the good news, baby girl, for Mary Flowers! (Applause)."

"Representative Kubik;"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let the record reflect that Representative Klemm is excused today, and certainly we add our congratulations to Representative Flowers from the Republican side of the aisle."

"Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question there are 116 present and a quorum is present, and the House is ready for business. Message from the Senate."

"A message from the Senate by Ms. Hawker, Secretary. 'Mr. Speaker, I'm directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has concurred with the House of Representatives in passage of Bills, the following title, to wit: House Bills #1855, 1929, 2038, 2042, 2222, 2243, 2334, 2392, 2417, 2464, 2489, 2524, 2530 and 2557. Together with the attached Amendments, the adoption of which I'm instructed to ask concurrence with the House, passed the Senate as amended June 25, 1991. Linda Hawker, Secretary."

"Yes, Special Business Calendar, on the Order of Housing, Third Reading, appears 1322, Representative Turner. Representative Turner on 1322, Senate Bill. Are you ready, Sir? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1322, a Bill for an Act to amend the Abandoned Housing Rehabilitation Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Turner."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Assembly. This Bill does two things: (1) It says that where a non-for-profit organization, or where a person is taking receivership for a particular property, in 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 particular, an abandoned building, and he has made certain repairs that, in fact, if the owner decides he wants to reclaim his property, not only must he compensate that individual for the repairs made to that property but, in certain areas where the property values have increased, we ask that the receiver be given compensation up to the market value of that price. So, in addition to the repairs, they also should receive that compensation. The second part of the Bill deals with the prepayment issue and this issue, I think, is agreed on both sides. It spells out the necessary steps in terms of dealing with prepayment on HUD properties and state subsidized properties, and it's an issue that we've had some problems with on the near-north side of Chicago. I move for the favorable adoption of Senate Bill 1322.

"Any discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 111 voting 'yes', none voting 'no', and Senate Bill 1322, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Lou Jones on Senate Bill 756. Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. Representative Keane. Representative Keane in the chamber? Representative Keane. Out of the record. Representative Hicks. Representative Hicks in the chamber? Out of the record. Representative Giorgi. Representative Giorgi on Senate Bill 1095. Real Estate Deferral. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1095, a Bill for an Act to amend the Senior Citizen's Real Estate Tax Deferral Act. Third Reading of the Bill." 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"The Gentleman from Winnebago, Representative Giorgi."

"Mr. Speaker, this is the Senior Citizens Home Protection Act which lists a qualifying income from $12,000 to $30,000 and what this does is allow senior citizens, 65 or older, to live in their homesteads when they can't afford to pay their taxes and 80% of the property is used up over the years in paying taxes, fees and interests, SO that the people will not be deprived of living in their homesteads. So, I urge the support of this Bill."

"Any discussion? Representative Black."

"Yeah...I... Question of the Sponsor, if I might, Mr. Speaker."

"Proceed."

"This deferral program is really a loan, is it not, Representative?"

"I can't hear him, Mr. Speaker. I can't hear him."

"Would you kindly repeat that, Representative Black? Will the House please come to order? Excuse me. Representative Matijevich, for what purpose do you rise?"

"I've got some important information. We got the wrong information. We relied on Wyvetter Younge, and, Wyvetter, you were wrong. Mary Flowers has not yet had her baby, but, she will, very shortly. So, Mary Flowers is due any minute. I had announced, for those who aren't (sic weren't) here, that she had a baby girl. She did not have a baby girl. I'm hoping for a baby...I'm hoping for a baby boy for her."

"Back to the order of business of the House. Representative Black."

"Yeah. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. The Sponsor, I know, has agreed to yield. Representative, it's very difficult to try and get a handle on the cost of this 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 program because we don't...we don't know how many seniors are going to participate."

"Let me give you a cost...let me give you a cost the last three years, Mr. Black. In '89 the transfer was $325,000 and 72,000 came back into the revolving fund. In '90, again $325,000 was used and 102,000 were returned back into the revolving fund. In '91, 350,000 was used in GRF and 130,000 was back into the revolving fund. And last year, or anticipated this year, is three-quarters of a million dollars and expect 150,000 back in the revolving fund. But, this is, you might say, a plank in your Governor's attitude towards doing something about property taxes. You're allowing people to stay in their homesteads 'til 80% of the value of it is used up, when they can't afford to pay any of their taxes, fees or interest. I think this is a very benevolent program, and I don't see how you can afford to be opposed to it."

"Well, you know, and I understand that, and I appreciate the cost figures, but what you're doing, you know, is you're doubling the income eligibility for participation in this program so, really, we don't have any idea what the costs might escalate to because it's my understanding, now correct me if I'm wrong, under this program, when that senior would sell the house, or pass away then,..."

"The proceeds return back to the state, and the state gets the residue."

"And...and the state has to...It's the state's responsibility to pay that property tax to the local unit of government for those seniors participating. Correct?"

"That is correct. Very correct."

"And you said, last year, how much did the state have to pay?"

"The state paid $661,000 to counties." 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"Okay, and then, we got back from sale of property, what did you say we got back into the..."

"It's $130,000 but, this is a long range program, it's... but, Representative Black, it's less than a million dollars. Our state budget is 25 billion dollars. A million dollars of 25 billion might be one-half of 1%.

"Would it be fair to assume, then, Representative that what this program is designed to do is, it's designed to keep seniors in their homes. Right?"

"Very correct."

"Certainly cheaper than a nursing home, or a homestead exemption, or something like that, wouldn't it be?"

"This is a case...this is a case where they can't pay their property taxes. They can't pay their property taxes. They're pretty well on in years, a little older than I am. (I'm probably the oldest guy in the House.) This is an opportunity for them to maybe stay in their homestead for 10 to 20 years...because...until they reach the 80% of equity of their property. This is a terrific program."

"Well, and I think the safeguard on this, is a lien is put on their homes so I don't think we're going to get thousands and thousands of seniors taking advantage of this program, right?"

"That's correct."

"Sounds like a pretty good idea to me. Thank you for your patience."

"Thank you very much, Representative. Roll Call, Mr. Speaker."

"Question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1095 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed, 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question there are 113 voting 'yes', none voting 'no', and Senate Bill 6  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 1095, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair would like to make a very important announcement. We've got a lot of Bills on the Special Order. We're going to go right down the Special Order of Business, and we are not coming back. If you have a Bill on the Special Order of Business, Special Order of Business will be called as they are now, and we're going through every Special Order. If you have a Bill, I would suggest that you prepare yourself because we are not coming back to that Special Order of Business. The Chair would like to work long enough tonight to adjourn at a reasonable hour because we know we are going to be working late the next few days. So, please be here, be prepared to call your Bills, and we'll go right through the Calendar. Representative Wolf? Is Sam Wolf in the chamber? Representative Wolf, you have three Bills under Pensions. Would you like to hear these Bills, Representative? Alright, on that order, Mr. Clerk, appears Senate Bill 136."

"Senate Bill 136, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Madison, Representative Wolf."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, request leave of the House to bring the Bill back to Second Reading for purposes of an Amendment."

"Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing none, leave is granted. The Bill's on the Order of Second Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Parke (sic Clerk)."

"This Bill's been read a second time previously. Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Wolf."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #2 deletes everything and becomes the Bill. This Amendment covers the State 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Employees Retirement System and is submitted to bring the system into compliance with the Federal Budget Reconciliation Act of 1990 which requires that all state and local government employees be covered either under the Social Security Act or be a participant in a retirement system. The Amendment effectively eliminates the six-month qualifying period under the State Employees Retirement System and qualifies those persons who enter the system on or after July 1, 1991. It also makes several other technical changes to the Social Security Enabling Act. Mr. Speaker, I would move for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 136."

"Any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Parke."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. We've worked with the Sponsor of this Amendment, and we have no objections and would encourage to have it placed on the Bill."

"All those in favor of the Amendment signify by saying 'aye', opposed, 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it; the Amendment's adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Gentleman asks leave for immediate consideration. Does the Gentleman have leave by the Attendance Roll Call? Hearing none, leave is granted. The Bill's left on the order of Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 136, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Wolf."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Amendment that was just presented became the Bill and was discussed. I would 8  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 simply move for the passage of Senate Bill 136."

"Question is...the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Parke."

"Again, we have no problem with this legislation, and it should be passed."

"Question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 136 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 112 voting 'yes', none voting 'no' and Senate Bill 136, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Wolf, on Senate Bill 774. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 774, a Bill for an Act to amend the Chicago Park District. Second R... Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Wolf."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill has been structured to be returned to the Senate, and it will go into conference. I would move for the passage of Senate Bill 774."

"Any discussion? Representative Black."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Just a quick question of the Sponsor. Since this is a pension vehicle, Representative, do you have something in particular you want to be able to use this for? Since it's a vehicle? Anything in mind for it?"

"It could very well be used for the Omnibus Bill, Representative Black, or several other pension issues which we'll have down the line."

"Okay. Thank you."

"Question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 774 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed, 'no'. 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day Voting is open. This is final action. wish? June 26, 1991 Have all voted who Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Petka? They hit the wrong button. They put your speaker button on instead of your green button. Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this Bill there are 108 voting 'yes', none voting 'no', and Senate Bill 774, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1470. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1470, a Bill for an Act to amend the Pension Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Madison, Representative Wolf."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1470 is another Bill that has been structured to go into conference, and I would simply move for the passage of Senate Bill 1470."

"Representative Parke."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. It is imperative that we have a number of the vehicles available to be used for some of the negotiations that we have right now in the pension systems and we have no problems with this Bill."

"Any discussion? Hearing none, question is 'Shall Senate Bill 1470 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed, 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question there are 115 voting 'yes', none voting 'no', and Senate Bill 1470, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Keane. Representative Keane in the chamber? Representative Homer in the Chair."

"If I could have your attention, please. I'd like to 10  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 introduce to you the members of the Farmington Farmers High School Girls Softball Class A Championship Team of 1991 and to point out to you that we have the making of a dynasty. This is the second time in three years that this team has won the State Championship. The school is in both mine and Representative Hultgren's District, and I'm particularly proud since it is also the alma mater of my mother, Lena Rechoney. So, I'd like to have a nice hand for the Farmington Farmers Girls Softball Champions, and this is Head Coach Tom Wierzba. Coach!"

"Thank you very much. At this time I'd like to introduce each of the players: Marni Johnson, Jody Patterson, Angie Isbell, Chris Oldfield, Joey Danz, Becki Warner, Shannon Adkins, Bridget Bales, Dawn Stanley, Stephanie Mullens, Patti Carmody, Heather Bordner, Michelle Lamie, Heidi Donath, Kelly Organiscak, Brenda Buckman, Stephanie Friedrich, my Assistant Coach Chris Walker and our Principal Gary Schultz. As well as winning the State Championship for two out of the last three years, in between that we had a fourth place finish, also."

"Coach, I'd like to join in with Representative Homer in congratulating you and all the Farmington Farmers Softball Players, and at this time, Mr. Clerk, could you read the Resolution."

"House Resolution 785, offered by Representatives Homer and Hultgren. Whereas the Members of this House are happy to recognize the excellence of young athletes and wish to congratulate the girls' softball team of Farmington High School on winning the Class A State High School Softball Tournament. Resolved by the House of Representatives of the 87th General Assembly, the State of Illinois, that we congratulate the Farmington High School Softball Team on winning the Class A Girls' State Softball 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Tournament, that we commend the coaches and their inspired leadership and that we extend our best wishes to them for continued success in their future endeavors, and be it further resolved that suitable copies of this preamble and Resolution be presented to each of the members of the team and their coaches with our very best wishes."

"Thank you. All those in favor of the Resolution signify by saying 'aye', opposed... The Resolution is adopted. Thank you very much."

"Alright. Under the Order of Revenue. Representative Keane in the chamber? Representative Hicks. Representative Steczo, 729. Representative Hicks, you have a Bill, 1328, Revenue Voter Homestead. You won't be able to do that without permission. Representative Hicks on Senate Bill 1328. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1328, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to taxation. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Hicks. Representative Hicks, are you ready?"

"Mr. Speaker, I'd like leave of the House to take this Bill back to Second for purpose of Amendment."

"You heard the Gentleman's Motion. Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing none, leave is granted. Bill is on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1328. This Bill's been read a second time previously. Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Hicks."

"Representative Hicks."

"Thank you very much, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 is a technical Amendment which deletes Section 5 of that... Bill which is erroneously placed on the Bill in the first place and puts it back like current law is." 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 "Any discussion on the Amendment? Hearing none, Speaker Giglio: all those in favor of the Amendment signify by saying 'aye', opposed, 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments."

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Hartke."

"Representative Hartke, on Amendment #3. Representative Hartke, on Amendment #3."

"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to withdraw Amendment #3."

"Withdraw Amendment #3, Mr. Clerk. Further Amendments."

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Hartke."

"Representative Hartke, on Amendment #4."

"I think the Sponsor would probably consider this a hostile Amendment, so I'll withdraw Amendment #4."

"Withdraw Amendment #4, Mr. Clerk. Further Amendments."

"Floor Amendment #5, offered by Representatives Schoenberg and Giglio."

"Representative Schoenberg, on Amendment #5."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. In light of the Brouhaha which occurred yesterday, I want to clarify something and that is the intention of Floor Amendment #5. The reason why we sought to pull the Bill out of the record yesterday was to offer a compromise which had been fully agreed upon, yet due to some mixed signals, that is not the scenario which unfolded yesterday. Amendment #5 merely provides for the hearings providing for study and recommendations to be conducted by the Revenue Committee to explore how we can provide better government... streamlined government and reduce the over 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 6,600 taxing bodies which characterize the State of Illinois, more than two and a half times the amount of the next largest state. This thorough and comprehensive study will be reported back to...to the General Assembly by the Revenue Committee at the end of the 1991 year. We ask for a Roll Call vote and ask for your favorable consideration on this compromise measure."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Pullen."

"I'd like to ask the Sponsor a question or two, please."

"Certainly."

"Proceed, Representative Pullen."

"Thank you for seeking order, Mr. Speaker. I didn't hear any change in the noise level, but it would be nice if we could hear each other."

"You know, the Lady's correct. You know, this is going to be a long day and first let me say, those people that (sic who) are not entitled to House floor, would you kindly leave the premises. We have over 150 Bills on the Calendar; we're going down on the Special Order of Business one time; we've got a lot of work to do, and the way we started out, we're not moving very fast. So, would you kindly give the Lady attention and let's try to proceed in an orderly manner. Proceed, Representative Pullen."

"You indicated that this Amendment would be a compromise from the Brouhaha of yesterday. Could you tell us what proposal you're talking about, from yesterday?"

"Representative Schoenberg."

"Representative, I have spoken with the other side of the aisle regarding this. The language is identical to language which is in 1329 and is endorsed by the Taxpayers' Federation of Illinois. It's, I believe, an Agreed Amendment, having spoken with the Leadership on the other side of the aisle. This merely provides for study of the 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 issue on how we can streamline the fiscal practices of local governments throughout the State of Illinois."

"Would you answer my question, please? What Brouhaha of yesterday are you referring to?"

"The discussion which I was referring to, as of yesterday, pertained to Senate Bill 887."

"And what was the subject of that Bill, Sir?"

"The subject of Senate Bill 887 was to permit the possibility of binding referenda within each of the 30 townships of suburban Cook County. It wasour intention to withdraw and have that Amendment tabled yesterday."

"So, this Amendment that you bring before us now springs from a fallback position on the effort to abolish township government. Does this Amendment have any provisions relating to studying the sunset of various units of local government?"

"No, it does not."

"Does it mention any specific units of local government?"

"It deals with local government units."

"Well, I know, but does it specify particular local government units? Does it give examples? Does it target any?"

"No, it does not. It does not target any one category of local governments."

"Does it mention examples?"

"It does not mention examples. It is a broad comprehensive study to provide efficient, streamlined government."

"So, it does not use any term less generic than the term, 'units of local government'?"

"That's absolutely correct. This is as generic as we can get." 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

June 26, 1991 "Without just forgetting the issue, altogether. Thank you."

"Representative Kubik."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I stand in support of the Gentleman's Motion to adopt this Amendment. The is a... an Amendment which is identical to a Bill which is floating around this General Assembly which would request that the Revenue Committees, in both the House and the Senate, undertake an examination of local government and the operations of local government. This whole issue comes out of the Illinois Taxpayers' Federation proposal. There is no... It is purely a study. It does not target any specific form of local government. It is a rather wide-ranging study, and I think that, as Representative Schoenberg has indicated, it does not target any particular unit of government. I think this is a good Amendment, and I would stand in support of the Amendment and urge its adoption."

"Representative Hartke."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I'm in support of this Amendment. Representative Schoenberg has come to an agreeable compromise. We find that the State of Illinois has numerous local governments. Some of them are outdated, some are not. The fear out here is that this is an attempt to eliminate township government. I don't see it that way. We have park districts, we have fire protection districts, drainage districts and all other kind of units of local government, and I think we ought to take some time and effort to study those to see if we can move local government more efficiently, and I stand in support of this legislation."

"Who was just speaking? Who was that, Mr. Clerk? Oh, Representative Hartke, okay. Representative 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Schoenberg, to close."

"In closing, I'd like to say that this issue has certainly received a lot of debate and discussion. It's made all of us involved see the need to examine the larger picture in terms of providing cost-effective government in the State of Illinois. I appreciate the comments from my colleague on the other side of the aisle, and I would urge an affirmative vote."

"You heard the Gentleman's Motion. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', opposed, 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments."

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Hicks, the Bill's on Third Reading. We're going to come back to it after we have a chance for the staff to look at the Amendments. Okay, on the Order of Revenue, Representative Keane, Senate Bill 1421. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. Mr. Keane. George, put Representative Keane on. Proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could I go back to 625?"

"No, not at this time. We're starting from the bottom and going up. If you care to call 1421, we'll hear that now."

"Okay. I've just been told that we're trying to make a clarification on a few of my Bills. So, if I could come back to them in just a few minutes, that'd be fine."

"Well, if you stay in the chambers, we'll be happy to come back, Representative Keane. Alright, we're going to go...we're gonna start again at the bottom and work up, and we'll try to have all these Bills called. Let the Chair remind the Members, we've been in...we've been in Session one hour and we've moved approximately five Bills. At the rate we're going with 150 Bills, we'll be here for 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 30 hours. So, if you want these Bills called today, kindly be in the chamber, and we'd be happy to go right down the line and have each one of your Bills called. Representative Keane, are you ready on 1421?"

"I'd rather have 1218, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1218 is a vehicle Bill. It was amended yesterday with an Amendment dealing with the University of Illinois. This Bill in the Senate belongs to Rep... Senator Carroll. It may become...it may also be a vehicle for bonding if we need it. I move the adopt... I move the passage of the Bill."

"Which Bill?"

"Fourteen... I know Representative Keane is... He's got so many Bills here today. Twelve-eighteen, Mr. Clerk. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1218, a Bill for an Act in relation to revenue anticipation notes issued by the State. Third Reading of the Bill."

"You heard Representative Keane on the discussion of the Bill. Is there any discussion from the floor? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1218 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, 114 voting 'yes', none voting 'no', and Senate Bill 1218, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Alright, as we go...as we go up the... up the line, here, Senate Bill 729 on this order. Representative Stec... Keane."

"Mr. Speaker, I have 872 I'd like to call."

"Pardon?"

"If we're moving up..."

"Well, we started from the bottom, Representative 18  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 Keane, we're going up the ladder."

"Well, we're going up, then 872 is next."

"The next Bill is 729, Representative Keane. Representative Steczo, 729. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 729, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Steczo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I ask for leave for this Bill to brought back to the Order of Second Reading for purposes of Amendment, please."

"Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing none, leave is granted. The Bill's on Second. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"This Bill's been read a second time previously. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Steczo."

"Representative Steczo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #1 deletes everything after the enacting clause and creates the Leyden Township Space Needs Law. It's a request by Leyden Township for the purpose of providing a mechanism to efficiently plan and utilize facilities in Leyden Township. They would not be able to apply for state grants, or do anything else, just utilize the money that Leyden Township gives them. But, there evidently is a thought there, that they're not allowed to do this under the present law. So, I would move for the adoption of the Amendment, Mr. Speaker."

"Representative Black."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I just... It's hard to hear and I think the Gentleman said what I wanted to hear, but this isn't any attempt to perhaps circumvent a possible freeze on civic centers, is it?"

"Representative Black, in fact, there's a prohibition against them applying for state money. The only money 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 they'll be able to use would be any money that the township would provide directly to them."

"And there's no 'quick take' in here for any property..."

"There is none."

"Well, the only reason I really ask you the question, in case that civic center thing would fall, I might want to join you in putting something on that, but since it doesn't seem to be falling, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't getting left out, see. Since you've explained it that way, I don't have any objection to this at all."

"Thank you, Sir."

"Representative Kubik."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Gentleman yield?"

"Indicates he will."

"Representative, I guess I'm not quite sure, what does the authority actually do, and why do we have to create this? I mean, can't they do it as a... I mean..."

"According to the information, Representative Kubik, given to me is, that the Township Act does not provide the express authority to be able to do the efficient planning construction and things that this space needs group would be allowed to do. To, you know, arrange, maintain facilities for various purposes that might be done to utilize, let's say, the township halls or provide other services. There's quirks in the law that need to be straightened out. This Amendment will allow them to do that."

"Are there any other townships in the state that are doing this at this present time?"

"That are doing what?"

"That are doing this kind of thing at the present time."

"I can't answer that. I don't know. Evidently not. If they could do...if they could do it now, Representative 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Kubik, there wouldn't be any need for us...to be concerned with it here."

"Well, I was wondering whether this was a clarification of the existing law, but we're basically going out and creating a special use for Leyden Township, then."

"Correct, but, we do that for other townships as well, depending, and what happens often is, if they are successful then, we may provide that same ability for other townships as well."

"Now, would this particular authority allow Leyden Township, which raises revenue as a township, to utilize that revenue to plan, maintain and, blah blah, blah, to plan the authority, so to speak?"

"Well, the authority would only have the revenue that was given to it by Leyden Township, but they would not be able to tax, would not be able to condemn, would not be able to seek other funds, so they're pretty much...they're pretty much limited as to what they can do by what the township itself allows it to do."

"But, I guess, if the only way that they, you know... my understanding of township government is they're rather limited in the way that they can use specific funds and we would...I would assume, if we create this kind of a concept, we'd have to create a mechanism for them to be funded to plan and develop plans, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So, we'd have to actually create a line or a fund in the township government in order to pay for this. Is that correct?"

"I don't believe that's the case. I think us (sic our) giving the authority for them to not incur obligations unless funds are provided to it, I think is enough legislative authority for them to be able to receive funds from the township and be able to spend those." 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"In other words what you're telling me is there are some discretionary funds that the township may have that they can funnel into this particular township, you know, authority. I guess, Representative, my question is, could we have the people...I guess you're having a hard time hearing me. My question is, how do we fund this thing? You know, I mean if you're going to create an authority to be able to do all of these things, there's got to be a funding mechanism and as I understand township government, there is no funding mechanism at the present time. So, where's the money for planning and creating this authority, coming from?"

"Representative Kubik, let me just...let me just, you know, try to put your mind to rest. This is not a grandoise authority that we're creating. This is just a planning group that the...that Leyden Township has asked us to, you know, consider allowing them to have and they would be able to utilize whatever funds that are given to it by Leyden Township. They also...they...they have...would have the authority to, on page 4 of the Amendment, to apply for any federal grants, or so, but certainly not for any state grants. Section 40. So, if there's federal money available, they can apply for that."

"Well, how do we define Leyden Township, I mean, is this limited to Leyden Township or would there be an opportunity of other townships in the state to do this kind of thing?"

"Leyden Township is Leyden Township."

"Is (sic - Has) it specifically been pointed out in the Bill?"

"Yes. Section 5."

"No further questions."

"Representative Steczo, to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe that this is just a 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 simple Amendment to allow this one township to be able to do something which currently is not, they're not able to do, in state law. It's not any grandiose kind of a plan. I would move for the adoption of Amendment #1."

"Further discussion. Hearing none, all those in favor of the Amendment say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments."

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. You've heard the Gentleman's Motion for immediate consideration. Does the Gentleman have leave by the Attendance Roll Call? Hearing none, leave is granted. The Bill's back on the Order of Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 729, a Bill for an Act creating the Leyden Township Space Needs Law. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Steczo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Amendment became the Bill, and I believe it was thoroughly discussed. If there are any further questions, I'll be happy to answer those; if not, I would ask for a 'yes' vote."

"Any discussion on Senate Bill 729 as amended? Hearing none, all those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question there are 65 voting 'no', 43 voting 'yes', and Senate Bill 720...65 voting 'yes', 43 voting 'no', 4 voting 'present' and Senate Bill 729, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Keane, on Senate Bill 872. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 872, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. Third Reading of the Bill." 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

"Representative Keane." June 26, 1991

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Eight seventy-two is nothing more than a vehicle Bill for revenue Bills, and I move its passage."

"Any discussion? Representative Kubik."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a vehicle Bill. I would ask my Members to vote 'no' or 'present' on this particular Bill because we don't quite know what it's going to be."

"Question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 872 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. Representative Stange votes 'no'. Stange votes 'no'. On this question, there are 68 voting 'yes', 37 voting 'no'. Senate Bill 872, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Keane on 631? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 631, a Bill for an Act to amend the Service Use Tax Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Keane."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like leave to return the Bill to Second for purpose of an Amendment."

"You heard the Gentleman's Motion. Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing none, leave is granted. The Bill's on Second. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Keane."

"Representative Keane on Amendment #1."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Amendment is nothing more than an effective date Amendment to turn the Bill into a vehicle and get it back to the Senate. I move the adoption of the Amendment." 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

"Any discussion on the Amendment? June 26, 1991 Hearing none, all those in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it; the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments."

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Keane asks leave for immediate consideration. Hearing granted by the Attendance Roll Call. none, leave is Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 631, a Bill for an Act to amend the Service Use Tax Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Keane."

"This is a vehicle Bill. It's the Service Use Tax Act. Senator Luft, the Chairman of the Senate Revenue Committee wants one available, and this will be his vehicle. I move the passage of this Bill."

"Any discussion? Representative Kubik."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. While the Bill has an outstanding Sponsor, its future is unclear, and I would ask my Members to vote either 'no' or 'present' on this proposal."

"Question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 631 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question there are 60 voting 'yes', 38 voting 'no', and Senate Bill 631, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Keane, 1218; you want to do 1218? Representative McGann, 707. Would you like to hear that Bill? 707? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 707, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning grants for the Department of Mental Health 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 and Developmental Disabilities. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative McGann."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Assembly. Senate Bill 707 is a bonding Bill to allow the Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities to provide bonding for providers in order to comply with the OBRA Act of 1987. The debt service for the proposal would...should be paid by the Department of Mental Health's Mental Health Fund that they have. We have to comply with the OBRA Act and unless we provide the (CILA) facilities for these individuals that have to come out of the nursing homes, et cetera, we will not be in compliance and, therefore, we will be losing federal dollars by 1994. The Bill is supported by the Illinois Association of Community Health Agencies, the Alliance for the Mentally Ill of Illinois, and the Mental Health Authorities of Illinois. In other words, the 708 force. This legislation was approved in the Senate by a 53 to 0 vote, and I would ask for passage of Senate Bill 707. I'll be happy to answer any questions."

"Representative Black."

"Thank you very much. An inquiry of the Chair, Mr. Speaker."

"Proceed."

"The underlying Bill increases the GO Bond authorization level by 25 million dollars. Our inquiry of the Chair is, since it increases the bond authorization, does this Bill need 71 votes to pass?"

"The Parliamentarian informs the Chair that this Bill requires 71 votes."

"It does require 71 votes?"

"Yes."

"Alight, let me...if I might just address the Bill, Mr. 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I don't think there's a Gentleman or a Sponsor in this House who works more diligently on behalf of the developmentally disabled than Representative McGann. I had the privilege of working with him on the Mental Health Committee for two years. I know everything that he does in this area is serious with a great deal of thought and the benefit and the welfare of the community and people that he's trying to serve. I wish, I just simply wish I could get up and join with him to support this, but given the fiscal problems that the state faces and the fact that it does ask for a 25 million dollar increase in the bonding authority and that the Fiscal Note filed shows an impact that approaches, a fiscal impact approaching 50 million dollars, I can't do that. I wish I could because no one works any harder in this chamber to serve people who certainly need a strong voice for them, as Representative McGann has been for them. I have no doubt that the Bill is worthy and worthy of our support and if it were different times maybe we could all join together and support him, but it increases bond authorization; it has a fiscal impact of 50 million. I reluctantly rise in opposition and I would ask that you vote 'present' or 'no' and, Mr. Speaker, should the Bill get the requisite number of votes, I must be compelled to seek a verification."

"The Lady from Springfield, Representative Hasara."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, also, very reluctantly rise in opposition of this Bill. In addition to all the things that the previous speaker has mentioned, I would like to inform the Body that the estimated balance at the end of this fiscal year in that fund is '0'. So, if this would pass, it would certainly hurt the community grants that are 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 now going to our local communities. Again, we all wish we had the money to do this, but it is simply not there at this time. I ask for a 'present' or 'no' vote."

"Representative Kubik."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I, too, very reluctantly, rise in opposition, notwithstanding the respect that I have for the Sponsor. As Representative Black has indicated, there's nobody who's worked harder than Andy McGann in this issue, but the reality is that we don't have the money, and it just doesn't make sense for us to increase our bond authorization this year under these tough times. It's just not the appropriate time. Given another time and another place, this was an excellent idea and a very worthy idea. The problem is, we're facing a very difficult year, as we all know. This is not the direction we should take. We ought to be...we've got to be tough about these programs, however difficult it is, and we ought to look at what we can fund and this is a program, unfortunately, we can't fund, and it will have an impact on other programs, so we should look at this program very carefully, and I would urge either a 'no' or 'present' vote."

"Representative McGann, to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the Assembly. I certainly appreciate the kind remarks from my colleagues on this floor. We speak of not now is the time. This is the time, for time is running out and if we lose the federal dollars it'll cost us far more that the 25 million dollars. We have a timetable, and we have to comply. There are no more extensions. We have received the extensions to date. There will be no more. We talk about the cost, almost 50 million dollars. This is so inflated, it's unbelievable. It's like every Fiscal Note that comes out of the 28  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 department. It has just this great, great inflated amount. They talk about $134,000 for staff to handle the 25 million dollar bonding. This is totally hogwash because of the fact they've got enough bureaucrats over there now that could well do the job and take care of the handling of this general obligation bonding. Precedent has been set. Precedent has been set through the years. The Department of Energy and Natural Resources took advantage of it. The State Board of Education, the Department of Corrections. This bonding opportunity was set up for just what we want to use it for. It has to be done. It's something that we have to do now. We are not trying to cost the state any more money. We're trying to save the state money because if we do not, just like we lost 13 million dollars at Howell because we didn't comply with the federal regulations. This will happen here; we'll lose a lot more millions. The payment of the debt service should come from the Mental Health Fund because there's moneys in the Mental Health Fund to do just exactly what we're asking for this Bill. We have to do it now. I ask every Member of this House to please vote and show our support as the Senate did when the Senate sent it out with a 53 to 0 vote. I ask you and then let the Governor decide whether or not he wants to place on his back the penalties that will come from the federal government for our noncompliance. I ask for an 'aye' vote. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 707 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting's open. This will be final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there's 66...67 voting 'yes' and 16 voting 'no', and this Bill, having failed to receive the Three-Fifths 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared lost. Representative McGann."

"Postponed Consideration?"

"Gentleman have leave for Postponed Consideration? Hearing none, leave is... Representative Black."

"I tell you what, Mr. Speaker, I... there's nobody in the chamber I'd rather help than Representative McGann, but you called the vote; you closed the board; this Bill's gone."

"Senate Bill 499, Representative Hartke. Representative Matijevich."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, I think all of the Members want to be fair to everybody. We had not gone to the next Bill and the request was made for Postponed Consideration, and I think the Gentleman has that right. He had the requisite votes so, I would ask the Chair to allow Representative McGann his right to have his Bill on Postponed Consideration."

"Representative Homer."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, what was the ruling of the Chair on Representative McGann's request?"

"Well, the Chair, after looking at Representative McGann, the Chair took his sign language after Representative Black indicated that he was against the Postponed Consideration. Representative McGann passed, by his hand, to indicate to the Chair that...to let it go and, therefore, I let it go. Representative McGann."

"Mr. Speaker..."

"Mr. Speaker, may I just...the...I...any party has a right, who gets 47 votes, to place the Bill on Postponed Consideration. Leave is not required. The Gentleman did make his Motion in a timely way before the next Bill was called, and so he has an absolute right. That Bill should 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 be on Postponed Consideration if he so requests."

"Representative Black."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. In all due respect to Representative Homer, Representative Matijevich. Yeah, we really like to be fair, but Rule 40 is very clear. When a Bill is voted on final passage and receives at least 47 affirmative votes, the Chief Sponsor may, before the result is announced, place the Bill on Order of Postponed Consideration. In all due respect to the Chair and those who object, I do believe you announced the result of that Bill and were preparing to move on, and the Gentleman's Motion was not timely, and I would ask the Chair to so rule."

"Senate Bill...you're correct, Senate Bill 499, Representative Hartke. Representative Hartke. 499, Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 499, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to enterprise zones. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Hartke."

"Yes, I'm asking leave to take this Bill back for the purpose of an Amendment."

"You heard the Gentleman's Motion. Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing none, leave is granted. Bill's on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"This Bill's been read a second time previously. Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Hartke."

"Representative Hartke."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. A couple of days ago, I attempted to put Amendment #2 on this piece of legislation and it failed. I'm attempting to again now. Amendment #3 is the same as Amendment #2, 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 the exact same words, everything, and the concept is still the same. When the enterprise zone concept was first introduced in the General Assembly, the encouragement... and passed, the encouragement was for counties and cities to develop enterprise zones to encourage commercial and industrial development in their communities. We needed the jobs. We needed the business in the State of Illinois. Part of the incentive package was that if an industry developed, or a commercial business developed in an enterprise zone, what we said and intended was that the building material used for the development of that building or construction, would be tax exempt. Many buildings...cities took that on its face value and promoted their enterprise zones throughout the State of Illinois, encouraging business and industry to develop in their enterprise zone. As it turned out, many did. Enterprise zones developed and flourished in the State of Illinois, but when these individual companies and construction companies applied for this tax exemption, the Revenue Department said, 'No, they don't qualify', because of some ruling back in 1951, or whatever, before enterprise zones were ever conceived in the State of Illinois. Amendment #3 is an attempt to clarify that and the position of the General Assembly when we told these businesses and industries that their building material would be exempt if used in that enterprise zone. What Amendment #3 says, that any material purchased anywhere in the State of Illinois to be used and incorporated in an enterprise zone for the development of commercial and industrial property, those building materials and so forth would be tax-exempt, sales tax-exempt. I would appreciate your support and be happy to answer any questions on Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 499." 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

"Representative Currie." precisely to encourage June 26, 1991 "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. The Gentleman is correct; we did defeat this Amendment several days ago, and we did so for two very good reasons. First, the cost of this Amendment to state government would run into many millions of dollars and, secondly, the point of the sales tax exemption within the enterprise zone is business development within that enterprise zone. That was the reason why the sales tax exemption was part of the original Enterprise Zone Law. To expand the sales tax exemption to any community in the state where the materials are purchased would, I think, do damage to the likely development of industrial and commercial growth within an enterprise zone and would do so only at the expense of the State's General Revenue Fund. So, I would urge you, if you're concerned about the state of our state treasury and, of local state treasuries, and if you're concerned about the public policy implications of enterprise zone sales tax exemptions, I would encourage you again, today, to defeat this Amendment as we did just two days ago."

"Representative Black. Representative Kubik."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would join my colleague on the other side of the aisle in opposing this Amendment. She is right; we did defeat this Amendment, rather substantially a few days ago. This amendment would cost the State of Illinois between six to eight million dollars a year in terms of what it does for sales tax exemptions. It, also, will, as Representative Currie pointed out, will impact local government. Your local government will have no control over the fact that your...the sales tax on building materials would be exempt, and it will erode their local 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 sales tax base. This is a major change in the Enterprise Zone Law, and what it basically says is that if you are in an enterprise zone and you wish to buy building materials, you can buy it anywhere in the state and be exempt. That's not the way you build business in a local enterprise zone. That is... It is just simply a tax break that we really just cannot afford at this particular time. So, I would oppose this particular Amendment. I would hope people would vote against this Amendment. We can't afford this Amendment at this point in time. It's going to cost us six or eight million dollars, and it will have an adverse effect on local government funding as well. So, please, join us again and oppose this particular Amendment. Thank you."

"Representative McGann."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Assembly. I also rise in opposition to this Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 499. We've had this subject matter over and over again. The department addressed the problem that was existing in the enterprise zone where there were no hardwares or building materials involved in business within the zone, but now we're opening it up throughout the whole state. In one audit alone, it was found there'd be a million dollars lost to the State of Illinois. If we continue on opening up throughout the state, it's untold millions. We talk about special interest legislation on the floor of this House from time to time. This is exactly what this is: special interest legislation, and I ask you to soundly defeat this Amendment #3, once and for all."

"The Chair would like to remind the Members, this Bill was on Short Debate. The Chair, next time, will ask if there's any opposition. Perhaps, with that, we could move these Bills along. Does anybody want to speak now in 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day favor of the...to help Representative Hartke? Representative Hicks." June 26, 1991

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. You know, I think your portraying (sic - of) all of this is absolutely incorrect. What this really is, is saying that if you are a franchise dealer, for example, of a...for a building contractor, say you're a Strand Field Dealer and you get the bid on a job in an enterprise zone, then you're at an unfair advantage because you are only allowed to buy and only allowed to build, the one type of building, Strand Field. You have to pay tax on it, while at the other point in time, the other contractors, he gets to take the sales tax deduction for this, so, you're looking at this incorrectly. The department is wrong in their ruling on this. It's the proper thing to do is to pass this Amendment. I urge its adoption."

"Representative Dunn."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, rise in support of this Amendment. A little known consequence of the present law is that you can circumvent the law by being incorporated inside the enterprise zone. Then, you can operate wherever you wish. So, people who are clever enough to file their incorporation papers to designate themselves to be incorporated in the enterprise zone can take advantage of the tax breaks, but people who don't do that are caught up in the trap that Representative Hartke is trying to solve. He has presented a good Amendment to take care of a dilemma for a lot of hard-working business people who build things, who do things and who need products which they cannot obtain inside the enterprise zone, and when they obtain those products outside the enterprise zone, because of rules and regulations and statutes of the Department of Revenue are very complicated, they often wind up in the 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 awkward situation where they should have charged sales tax and didn't and now they are holding the bag and the bag is so big they can't afford to pay the amount owed, and it may force them out of business. This is an excellent piece of legislation, an excellent Amendment, and I would encourage everyone here to cast an 'aye' vote in support of Floor Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 499."

"Representative Davis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. Representative, are you aware that the State of Illinois is in a financial crisis?"

"I understand that we do have a revenue shortfall, and I understand that but that's not what we're trying to get at here. I think it's honesty with the taxpayers and the developers in that enterprise zone. When we tell them one thing, that their building materials should be tax-exempt, it should be, and that's what this Body did several years ago. We went so far as to say that even paint for residential homes that were developed in an enterprise zone were tax exempt. If you read the Bill and under Senate Amendment #...or Amendment #1, that takes that out, and that saves the State of Illinois tax money because then those individuals who are building homes in an enterprise zone will be paying taxes on that building material, but under the interpretation of the Department of Revenue it said that home builders were exempt but commercial builders, who we thought and wanted to be tax exempt, were no longer tax exempt because that material was not sold in that enterprise zone."

"But commercial builders is what we're talking about here."

"We're talking about commercial and industrial builders."

"Commercial builders." 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

"Absolutely." June 26, 1991

"So, you're saying commercial builders should be given an added advantage of a reduced taxes that other people who purchase materials will have to pay. I think, to the Bill, Mr. Speaker, I really think that the State of Illinois is in a financial crisis because of these kinds of gifts to corporate America, and I do believe those of us who have enterprise zones in their districts, and I have one, believe me, I have an enterprise zone, but I believe that they should pay taxes on the material that they purchase, regardless of where they're going to use it but I just think that they, too, should contribute to the tax coffers of this state in order that we will not continue to be in the hole in reference to funding these state programs and these state agencies and that completes my testimony. Roll Call, please."

"Representative Kulas."

"I move the previous question."

"You heard the Gentleman's Motion. All those in favor of moving the previous question say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The question's been moved. Representative Hartke, to close."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I think there's an awful lot of confusion out here on what I'm attempting to do. I'm trying to attempt to straighten out what the intentions of the General Assembly were when we established enterprise zones several years ago. We told cities and local governments who established enterprise zones to encourage the development of commercial and industrial property in certain areas. They did that. Many factories developed, many commercial properties developed in enterprise zones to help develop and to bring jobs to 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 local communities. As an incentive, we told them that if they would establish these buildings in an enterprise zone that the material used to develop this would be tax exempt from the sales tax. Many did. Many jobs were created. But, then, the Department of Revenue made the determination that this building material was not tax exempt over some court finding back in 1951, which was prior to us ever conceiving the enterprise zone. What I think we're doing is, we're going back on our word.. We're saying one thing, and we're doing another. Now, as we look at it today, we have businesses in Representative Noland's district who're being charged by the Department of Revenue some 40, 50, even 60 thousand dollars for sales tax because they developed in an enterprise zone. It's happened in my enterprise zone; it's happened in Senator Leverenz's district; it's happened in Representative Deering's district; Representative Hicks' district, and I contend that in every district in the State of Illinois, this has happened. We're going back on our word. I don't think the State of Illinois should do this. I think we should support this Amendment, and I would like a Roll Call on it."

"You heard the Gentleman's Motion. All those in favor of the Amendment signify by voting 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting's open on Amendment #3. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. Put Dunn, 'aye'. Rotello, 'aye'. Mr. Clerk, there's too many changes. Dump this Roll Call. We'll take another Roll Call. Dump this Roll Call, Mr. Clerk. Alright. On this question, all those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed vote 'no', and please vote your own switch. Please vote your own switch. Mr. Clerk, Schoenberg votes 'no'. Alright. Has everybody voted? Has 38  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 everybody voted? Representative Black?"

"If necessary I was just going to explain my vote, but I don't think it will be."

"Alright. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 46 voting 'yes' and 61 voting 'no', and the Amendment fails. Further Amendments."

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Are there further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Gentleman asks leave for immediate consideration. You don't need it. Okay. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 499, a Bill for an Act in relation to enterprise zones. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Hartke."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Senate Bill 499 is now before you. It does not contain a...an Amendment that would extend any sales tax. As a matter of fact, Amendment #1 to this Bill and the basic concept behind this Bill saves the State of Illinois sales tax. A ruling by the Department of Revenue says that...about two years ago it says that all enterprise zone building material, whether it be commercial, industrial or residential, shall be sales tax exempt if purchased in the enterprise zone area. Many enterprise zones in the State of Illinois and retailers were quite confused by this ruling simply because if you had a home in a residential area you would walk into your local paint store, buy a bucket of paint, claim to be an enterprise zone and if you refused to pay the sales tax on that bucket of paint, you'd be sales tax exempt from that paint, and when they went to 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 report their incomes and revenues, the department would come back on them as well. What this Bill does now is changes that and says that the sales tax exemption only applies to sales tax on industrial and commercial building and improvement materials purchased in the enterprise zone. I ask for your support to save the State of Illinois some money."

"Any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 499 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 104 voting 'yes', none voting 'no', and Senate Bill 499, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Bugielski, on 497. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 497, a Bill for an Act in relation to tax exemption of certain proceeds of a mandatory service charge on food and beverages. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Bugielski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House."

"Representative Saltsman. Representative Saltsman. Representative Bugielski has the Bill."

"Senate Bill 497 exempts from sales tax proceeds of a mandatory service charge that are separately stated on customers' bills for purchase and consumption of food and drink if any portion of those proceeds are turned over the employees who would have received tips if no service charge was imposed on these proceeds. This is a Bill that was here as a House Bill. (It was House Bill 1982.) This is the Senate version of it. There was a lot of controversy on the House Bill that went over to the Senate because they put different Amendments on which is coming 40  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 back here, but this a clean Bill, and this is an agreed Bill that has come up originally between Department of Revenue and the hotel industry, so this is what they agreed on originally, and I don't want you to confuse it with what happened over in the Senate on the House Bill."

"Any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 497 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 114 voting 'yes', and none voting 'no'. Senate Bill 497, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Mautino. Is Representative Mautino in this chamber? Senate Bill 241. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 241, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to public water and infrastructure projects. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Olson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Mr. Speaker, we'd like a Republican Conference immediately in 118 for a half hour."

"Representative Olson, could you hold? We're checking on your request. Representative Olson, how long did you request your caucus? One half hour? Alright. The House will stand in recess for one half hour until the Republicans return back from caucus, and the House will stand in Perfunct so the Clerk could read the agreed Bills on the Agreed Bill List and hold these until...we return back. Is there leave? Hearing none, leave is granted. Mr. Clerk, proceed with the...the Bills."

"Senate Bill 42, a Bill for an Act to amend the Personnel Code. Senate Bill 62, a Bill for an Act to amend 41  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 the Public Utilities Act. Senate Bill 104, a Bill for an Act to amend the Uniform Commercial Code. Senate Bill 154, a Bill for an Act to amend the Jury Act. Senate Bill 155, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Senate Bill 175, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Administrative Procedure Act. Senate Bill 197, a Bill for an Act to amend the Bingo License and Tax Act. Senate Bill 247, a Bill for an Act to amend the Minority and Female Business Enterprise Act. Senate Bill 269, a Bill for an Act to amend the Interest Act. Senate Bill 298, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Savings and Loan Act. Senate Bill 307, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Senate Bill 317, a Bill for an Act to amend the Interest Act. Senate Bill 322, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Senate Bill 429, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. Senate Bill 505, a Bill for an Act to amend the Township Waterworks Act. Senate Bill 527, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning mammogram testing. Senate Bill 548, a Bill for an Act to amend the Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act. Senate Bill 551, a Bill for an Act to amend the Savings Bank Act. Senate Bill 564, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. Senate Bill 587, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act regarding physicians' orders limiting resuscitation. Senate Bill 658, a Bill for an Act to amend the Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act. Senate Bill 660, a Bill for an Act to create the Currency Reporting Act. Senate Bill 678, a Bill for an Act to amend the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District Act. Senate Bill 679, a Bill for an Act to amend the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District Act. Senate Bill 680, a Bill for an Act to amend the Adoption Act. Senate Bill 699, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Dental Practice Act. Senate Bill 725, a Bill 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 for an Act to amend the School Code. Senate Bill 828, a Bill for an Act to create the Private Enterprise Review and Advisory Board. Senate Bill 839, a Bill for an Act to amend the Counties Code. Senate Bill 841, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Senate Bill 844, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Highway Code. Senate Bill 894, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unified Code of Corrections. Senate Bill 993, a Bill for an Act to amend the Corporate Fiduciary Act. Senate Bill 1091, a Bill for an Act concerning certain municipalities. Senate Bill 1202, a Bill for an Act to amend the Emergency Services and Diaster Agency Act. Senate Bill 1231, a Bill for an Act concerning diesel-powered motor vehicles. Senate Bill 1246, a Bill for an Act to amend the Space Needs Act. Senate Bill 1248, a Bill for an Act to amend the Historic Preservation Agency Act. Senate Bill 1277, a Bill for an Act to create the Division Corporations Special Operations Fund. Senate Bill 1300, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Senate Bill 1303, a Bill for an Act to amend the Explosives Act. Senate Bill 1312, a Bill for an Act to create the Federal Building Restoration Act. Senate Bill 1329, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Comptroller's Act. Senate Bill 1423, a Bill for an Act to amend the Business Corporation Act. Senate Bill 1465, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Securities Law. Third Reading of these Senate Bills, and the Bills will be held on the Calendar on Third Reading."

"Representative Olson, do want to make an announcement?"

"Thank you, Mr...the Republicans would like to announce a Conference in 118 for three hours. Is that the announcement you wanted, Mr. Speaker?"

"I thought the announcement was that you are 43  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 ready to come back and continue with the House's business."

"We are absolutely ready. We are all primed, ready to go. All of our answers have been questioned. All our questions have been answered. Turn me off."

"Mr. Clerk, when we left...and we recessed, I believe Senate Bill 241 was on the board. Take that Bill out of the record for the time being for the purpose of an Amendment being drafted, and we will continue on that order and on the next Order of Business appears Senate Bill 98, Representative Munizzi. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 98, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Lottery Law. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Munizzi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. Senate Bill 98 amends the Illinois Lottery Law. It states that the department can suspend the license of any lottery sales agent that fails to pay taxes or that owes back taxes and that it can refuse to issue a license to an applicant who owes those taxes. Yesterday, we amended it to make sure that the department gets certification from the applicant stating whether or not they owe it or stating that they do not owe any back taxes. I ask for a favorable Roll Call. Thank you."

"Any discussion? The Gentleman from Will, Representative Wennlund."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates she will."

"It's my understanding that the Illinois State Lottery Department is opposed to this because it will delay the application process for about three weeks and that delay in the application process could cost the state approximately three million dollars in lottery sales. Is that..."

"I don't necessarily know what that means. It could be 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 a lot more than that in the back taxes that people owe. I believe the lottery was initially opposed to it. Their argument with us was that they didn't want to deal with the paper work which is kind of not necessarily a good policy. Why don't we get the back taxes owed us in time of the fiscal problems that we're having? If we can get the back taxes back and be able to...go forward then with all the applicants, then that's great."

"Well, it is my understanding that your Bill is not limited to taxes due the State of Illinois, but to taxes potentially due to some 6,600 units of local government in Illinois."

"To municipalities and counties, also, you are correct."

"How does... the lottery department go about determining exactly what taxes are owed to the 6,600 units of local government in Illinois?"

"It's not up to the lottery to determine it. It's up to the applicant to provide certification. The Amendment made it so that the applicant would have to provide certification stating that they did not owe the back taxes. Obviously, a violation of that would warrant the discontinuance of whatever license they're appling for, but it's up to the applicant, not the lottery department."

"...Alright, to the Bill, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Number 1, everybody knows that there are appropriations cuts and the lottery staff has been reduced, and what we are doing is creating another level of beaucracy, and we are going to increase the burden on the existing lottery employees, and it's going to cost them compounded delays in the whole application process. I understand the purpose of your Amendment, and it's got a valid purpose, but in a year when we're cutting the budget of the Illinois State Lottery, we are going to place an 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 additional bureaucratic burden on them and in reality really are placing a burden on them to make sure the 6,600 units of local government in Illinois are not owed a nickel to every lottery applicant in the state. It's a bad timing. It's a good idea, but the State of Illinois is not in a position to be able to afford it when at the same time we are cutting the lottery staff and cutting the appropriations for the lottery department, and that's why it should be a 'no' vote."

"Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I rise in strong support of the Representative's Bill. She worked very hard, the Sponsor of this measure did, to try to satisfy the concerns raised by the Department of the Lottery. She is exactly right that this Bill requires no additional work by members of that department, but it does say that applicants for lottery licenses shall show the lottery that they're current in their local and state tax and license fee obligations. We checked with various units of local government to find out whether it would be difficult for applicants to get information showing their currency or their lack of compliance with local laws, and the answer is it's not going to take anytime at all. The responsibility in this measure rests clearly on the shoulders of the applicants, and it was surprising to me that after all of our discussions and negotiations, the Department of the Lottery seems to want to front for tax deadbeats. I don't think it should be the policy of the State of Illinois that our agencies front for tax deadbeats, and I think the only responsible vote, on Senate Bill 98, is a 'yes' vote."

"This Bill is on the Order of Short Debate and there is six lights blinking up here. Do we have any more 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 in opposition? One more opposition, if you want to continue the route that the House decided to follow, and we'll move Bills along. Otherwise, we will be here till wee hours in the morning. Representative Black. Representative Black."

"Well. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I certainly appreciate that you want to move this along, and so do I and so do us all, but... you know, if the Chair would want me to do so, I'll take the Bill off Short Debate, but I would just as soon make some comments to you and if we want to vote on it, fine. I realize there are five or six other people seeking recognition, and I'll follow direction of the Chair. If you want just one proponent and one opponent, then I'll ask seven Members to join me and take this Bill off Short Debate. I'll defer to whatever the Chair wants to do."

"Well, we will let you proceed, Representative Black."

"... Thank you very much. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Now listen to this very carefully. The purpose of the Lottery Act is to exclusively support the functions of the lottery and, as amended in 1985, that is to support the Common School Fund. Now this Bill will alter the purpose of the Act. The Lottery Department was established specifically to regulate the lottery. This Bill, this Amendment, would cause the department to become a regulatory body and a collector for counties and municipalities. That is not what we created the lottery for. If you want these people to lose their sales licenses, all you have to do is to tell the county or the municipality to notify the department that they're delinquent and they'll pull their license, but this Bill goes beyond that and turns the Department of Lottery into a 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 regulatory body. Furthermore, I see no safeguard in this Bill for the right of due process to a sales agent. Now, the Lady has worked hard on this Bill, and I think she's on the right track, but I beseech you. This is not drafted in the way I think the Sponsor would like to see it drafted. It will go far beyond, I think, what she wants and the last thing we want, in my opinion, is to turn the lottery into a regulatory body for municipalities and counties. Let them do the job for which we created them. I urge you to vote 'no' on this Amendment...or this Bill."

"Representative Munizzi to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, just because the Lottery Department is one of the main sources of revenue for this state doesn't mean that they have carte blanche in operations. Why should people be allowed to use state dollars to make money off of state dollars and receive commissions from the state moneys and not have to pay the state the back taxes that they owe? If we are truly sincere about getting the money due us...as the State of Illinois, then I think this is something that we should support. It doesn't mean that the lottery is going to fold down and never operate again and they are only going to raise a dollar for us next year, and it doesn't mean there is a loss of funds. What it means is that we need people to comply with the laws that we pass that they pay the taxes due to the State of Illinois. I ask for your favorable Roll Call. Thank you."

"Question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 98 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 73 voting 'yes' and 41 voting 'no', and Senate Bill 98, having 48  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair right now is in a posture to do the Agreed Bill list. The Bills were read prior to or during the Republican Caucus. The forms are ready. Are there any persons that want to take any of the Bills off the Agreed Bill list? Please come to the well. No. Any Amendments? We'll do the Amendments now, the Bills that have Amendments. Eight twenty-eight. Representative Hoffman. Manny Hoffman. You have a Bill on the Agreed Bill list that has to be amended, 828."

"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a Bill that we would like to have brought back to Second Reading, so the purpose of an Amendment to be put on by Representative Lang."

"You heard the Gentleman's Motion. Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing none, leave is granted. The Bill's on Second. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"On the Order of Second Reading, Floor Amendment #1... correction, that is Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representative Lang."

"Representative Lang, on Amendment #2 to... Senate Bill 828."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is an agreed Amendment with the Sponsor. It transfers this program to DCCA, and I think the Sponsor concurs."

"Any discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of the Amendment say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Now that the Amendment's been adopted, does the Gentleman have leave to return the Bill to the Order of the Agreed Bill list? Hearing none leave 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 is granted. Leave is granted. The Bill is back on the Order of the Agreed Bill list to be acted on today. Representative Woolard. Is Representative Woolard in the chamber? Representative Woolard, you have Senate Bill 841. Do you wish to return that Bill back to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment? Gentleman asks leave to return Senate Bill 841 back to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing none, leave is granted. The Bill is on Second. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"On the Order of Second Reading, Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representative McGuire."

"Representative Woolard. Representative Woolard. Woolard. McGuire."

"I think we want to withdraw #2 and adopt Amendment #3."

"Withdraw Amendment #2, Mr. Clerk. Are there further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative McGuire."

"Representative Woolard. McGuire, on Amendment #3."

"What this will do is guarantee that a teacher who would be elected to a regional superintendent's position would have continued seniority to accrue during the time that they were serving in that position. This would be the same as they have now if they were elected to the General Assembly. This would provide them that same opportunity if they were elected to regional superintendent. I would move for passage of this Amendment."

"Representative Black. Representative Cowlishaw."

"Yes, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I reluctantly rise in opposition to this Amendment. As I understand this 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Amendment, it adds a provision that would allow the school board of a school district located in any county except Cook County to grant an unpaid leave of absence to any teacher who becomes a regional superintendent of schools for the duration of the employee's service as a regional superintendent. My reason for rising in opposition to this Amendment, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, is because I think that if a regional superintendent had worked as a teacher for a couple of years and then was a regional superintendent for perhaps ten or twelve years, it would certainly not be fair for that person then to come back to a school district where he had taught for only two years and either displace or cause some kind of employment uncertainty for the part of a teacher who had been teaching in that district for ten or twelve or more years. Consequently, although I certainly know that the Sponsor is extremely well-intentioned and a very competent person, I have to stand in opposition to this Amendment. Thank you."

"Further discussion? Representative Brunsvold."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I stand to support the Gentleman's Amendment. As a former teacher, I guess as a teacher now, I am in the same situation as the Amendment indicates. I am on a leave of absence, and I am accruing seniority right now and in the eventuality that I would quit or lose this position, than I would go back into that school district and probably bump another teacher out of a job. That is the law. That's for the General Assembly Members, and I think it's only right that we do it for a teacher that's going to run for a job like regional superintendent. I would ask for support for the Amendment #3."

"Representative Woolard, to close."

"I think what we are trying to address here, this is 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Representative McGuire's Amendment, but we are trying to address a particular instance that does fit within the bounds of his district, and I think that we should address this thing. We should accommodate the same kinds of rules for people who would be elected to a regional superintendent's position as we have for the House of Representatives or the Senate. I would move for adoption."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. Opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 841 is on Third. Does the Gentleman have leave to restore the Bill back to the Order of the Agreed Bill list so it can be heard today? Representative Cowlishaw."

"Mr. Speaker, I object to this Bill as amended being placed back on the Agreed Bill List."

"Representative Hasara in the Chair. Representative Curran."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and fellow Members of the House. Representative Curran and I are delighted today to introduce you to Jean Jolu, better known as Lou, to young Cain Wang, better known as Karl, and the son Paye, better known as Pat. They are from the Lianyungang Province of the Peoples' Republic of China and for the past three years, Illinois and their Province have been engaged in exchanges of personnel for the purpose of technology transfer and training. These three gentlemen arrived last October and will return to China late in October of this year, and they have been working out of the Department of Transportation. So we in Springfield have been very lucky to have them as our guests. Lou and Karl are civil engineers, and Pat is a data processing expert. Yesterday, 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 we passed a House Resolution in their honor and we thought today that you would all like to meet them, and we congratulate them and welcome them down to the Capitol today. Thank you very much."

"Alright, we'll go back to the Regular Order of Business and on that Order, on Second Reading, appears Senate Bill 792, Representative Barbara Currie. Out of the record. Alright, how about... Moving on the next Order of Business is Labor. Representative Kulas, Senate Bill 25. Representative Kulas. Is Representative Kulas in the chamber? Okay, we'll come back to him. How about Representative Farley? Representative Kulas is back. Representative Kulas, do you wish to hear Senate Bill 25? Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 25, a Bill for an Act in relationship to medical and family responsiblity leave. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Kulas."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate BIll 25 is the family medical responsibility leave that we passed out of this General Assembly the last three times. I won't belabor the point. I'd be glad to answer any questions, and I'll make my arguments in the closing."

"Representative McCracken."

"Yes, I won't belabor it either, just to say that a bad idea does not get better with age or repetition. What is viewed as the miracle saving grace for the modern family is nothing more than a state-imposed labor law for the benefit of the unions of this state. Well, I say it's time to strike an appropriate balance. We've already lost 600,000 manufacturing jobs largely because of a hostile business climate created by this Legislature, and this is a 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day continuation of that, and will have the June 26, 1991 unintended effect of discriminating against those who would need this benefit the most. Those who can least afford to take a leave of absence without pay. This is, again, to repeat a phrase, 'This is a yuppie Bill.' It discriminates against the most needy working members. If anyone needs it, it shouldn't be those who need it the least."

"Representative Kulas, to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, you know, some of the strongest objections to guaranteeing basic job protection for working families have come from the business community. The United States Small Business Administration, the USBA, commissioned a nationwide survey of business executives which addressed these objections. You know what the results are? Some of the highlights of these SBA findings are as follows: first of all, the cost of terminating an employee on account of illness, disability, pregnancy or childbirth are significantly greater than those associated with granting family leave. In 1990, the U.S. General Accounting Office estiminated that the family leave program, now this is the federal one, which is...more stringent than the one we proposed, would cost on an average of $5.30 a year per worker. Five dollars and thirty cents a year to keep your family together. Is that a large sum to pay? No, I don't think so. You know, Ladies and Gentlemen, we've passed this Bili three times; three times it's been vetoed, and we're going to pass it again, but I'd like to address our Gov...our new Governor, Governor Edgar, and ask him to reconsider his position. Governor Edgar, I hope you're listening or if not, I hope that your advisors are listening. I would like you to rethink your position on family leave, to say that family leave is something that 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 should be left to collective bargaining is fine, if everyone was under a collective bargaining agreement, but, Governor, less than 40% of the employees in the State of Illinois are under collective bargaining. What are you going to tell the other 60% of the employees, Mr. Governor? That their children, that their parents aren't as important as the ones under collective bargaining? Did you know, Governor Edgar, that the lack of a family leave policy in the State of Illinois costs the Illinois taxpayers 6.6 million dollars annually in increased government assistance to displaced workers. By your signing the Family Leave Bill at a time when the state is in a financial crunch, you, Mr. Governor, can save the state 6.6 million dollars that could be used for other worthwhile human service programs. So I ask you, Mr. Governor, are you going to ignore the will of the General Assembly? Are you going to ignore the will of the eleven and a half million people of the State of Illinois who demand, who demand to be put on equal footing with all the other working families in the civilized world? Are you going to veto this Bill, Mr. Governor, because the business community is opposed to this legislation on a philsophical point? The business community does not want government mandates, but it's been proven that family leave is good for business. Family leave saves business money. Family leave will save the taxpayers money. Family leave will help all the families in the State of Illinois. So I ask you, Mr. Governor, join us in showing the rest of the world that the State of Illinois cares about its families. Family leave is the right thing to do. Family leave is here to stay. You, Mr. Governor, are a compassionate family man. Mr. Governor, rethink your position and sign family leave because it's the right thing to do." 55  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991

"Question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 25... Representative McCracken."

"Yes, on behalf of Governor Edgar, I would like to make a point of personal privilege. I would like to respond on the Governor's behalf to those rhetorical questions."

"Well, it's not timely, Representative McCracken. You did speak on the issue. I recognized Representative Kulas, Representative Kulas, to close. He has now closed. You can explain your vote. And the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 25 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. This is final act... Representative Weaver, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It won't take a minute. There's already a Bill on the Governor's desk that does exactly this. We don't need it. It's a waste of time, and it's a waste of our effort. Vote it down."

"Representative Ropp."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It's very ironic that we feel here in this state that we can only keep families together after they become employed and that we need to force business to do certain things. We can't even pass a Bill here that says we have to encourage and teach parenting in our schools. That's kind of ironic; it's kind of hypocritical the way that we operate in this business. We certainly think that business ought to be allowed to deal with this in their own matter and that the state should not be the one that mandates what they would be doing."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 77 voting 'yes' and 35 voting 'no'. Senate Bill 25, having received the required 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Farley, on Senate Bill 145. Do you wish to have that Bill called, Representative Farley? Representative Farley, 145? Mr. Clerk, plug in 145. Out of the record. Representative Hannig, on Senate Bill 741. Do you wish to have that Bill called, Sir? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 741, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Gentleman from Macoupin, Representative Hannig."

"Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This Bill is a shell Bill that we would like to send over to the Senate, put in Conference. We have some agreed language on school code collective bargaining. We'd have a vehicle available, and that's all we intend to use it for, is an Agreed Bill, so I would ask for your 'yes' vote."

"Any discussion? Hearing none... Representative Cowlishaw."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative Hannig, do you... can you be more specific about what you intend to use this shell Bill for?"

"Well, Representative, if there's some agreements on negotiations and for collective bargaining for our schools, some changes that we need to be made, that we need to make in the law if both sides would agree on, that's all we would use it for."

"Who did you expect to have involved in the business of coming to an agreement?"

"Well, anybody who feels they have an interest obviously if can come forward and let that interest be known, but there is no agreement or there is no need for the Bill, we 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 will simply let it...sit in committee, let it sit in Conference Committee."

"Representative Hannig, would you be willing to make a pledge that this shell Bill will be used only for something that has been agreed-to by all participating parties, that it will not be used for anything controversial?"

"Yes, I will, Representative."

"Thank you very much."

"Question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 741 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. Representative Parke, are you seeking recognition? Mr. Clerk, something's wrong with Representative Parke's switch. He wants to be voting 'aye'. Is the Gentleman voted? Yes, you're voting now. On this question, there are 109 voting 'yes' and none voting 'no'. Senate Bill 741, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. State and Local Government, Third Reading, appears Senate Bill 45, Representative Kubik. Representative Myron Olson. Representative Kubik and Representative Myron Olson. I'm trying to get Representative Kubik's attention, Representative Myron Olson, so if you would continue the conversation after the Bill, Representative Kubik... He wants it out of the record? Take it out of the record. Representative Brunsvold, on Senate Bill 61. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 61, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Governor's Council on Health and Physical Fitness. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Brunsvold."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day the House. June 26, 1991 This Bill should be on the Consent Calendar. Simply allows the Governor's Council to meet, not just in Springfield. When Representative McPike passed this legislation back in the '70s, it stated that we could only meet in Springfield, meet four times a year, Governor's Council on Health and Physical Fitness. We need to meet in Champaign for the Praire State Games and then, once in awhile, in Chicago at the State of Illinois Building and this language would simply allow us to meet in those places. I ask for the passage of Senate Bill 61."

"Any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 61 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are lll voting 'yes', none voting 'no'. Senate Bill 61, having rec...Representative Rice. Representative Rice votes 'aye'. Anybody else? On this question, there are... Representative Balanoff, 'aye'. Anybody else? On this question, 113 voting 'yes', none voting 'no', and Senate Bill 61, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Currie on 89. Senate Bill 89, Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 89, a Bill for an Act to amend the Open Meetings Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This is a proposal from the State Bar Association that would change the current Open Meetings Act to say that meetings, not only of school boards, but of other units of local government, too, may be closed when discussions about the acquisition of real estate are the subject of the event." 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"Any discussion? Representative Parke."

"Yes...question for the Sponsor. Has the Illinois School Board Association signed off on this now, Representative?"

"I haven't had no (sic - any) discussions with the Illinois School Board Association. All this Bill does is to provide the same exemption to other units of local government that currently is enjoyed by the School Board Association. I would be surprised if they had an interest in this legislation."

"Okay, then is there anybody that any groups that you are aware of that is (sic - are) in opposition to this?"

"I have not heard from groups who are opposed to this."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Further discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 89 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, 113 voting 'yes', none voting 'no', and Senate Bill 89, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Capparelli on Senate Bill 89...91. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 91, a Bill for an Act to amend the Personnel Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Capparelli."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 91 requires a state employee to repay any lump sum payment for accrued vacation, overtime and sick leave if the employee returns to the same position within one year. This Bill was drafted in response to the state employee who quit his high-ranking job in order to collect over $20,000. I don't think there's any problem with this Bill. It passed out 59 60  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 to nothing in the Senate, and I would ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"Any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 91 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 114 voting 'yes', none voting 'no'. Senate Bill 91, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Bugielski, Senate Bill 650. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 650, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois State Auditing Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Bugielski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Senate Bill 650 requires the Auditor General to conduct a changeover audit of the Treasurer's accounts at the conclusion of the State Treasurer's term in office or at the end of the State Treasurer's time in office in the case of successive terms. According to the Auditor General's Office, Senate Bill 650 would reap a cost savings over the existing practice. The office contends that the volume of auditing contracts would enable the Auditor General's Office to secure the audit for 120 to $130,000. The Treasurer's Office has indicated that the current changeover audit contract was awarded for $165,000, thus the Bill imposes no new costs and, in fact, allows for less expensive audits at a savings to the State of Illinois. And I ask for your favorable Roll Call."

"Any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 650 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 this question, there are 112...113 voting 'yes', none voting 'no'. Senate Bill 650, excuse me... On this question, there are 115 voting 'yes', none voting 'no', and Senate Bill 650, having received the required the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Steczo, 750. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 750, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois State Agency Historic Resources Preservation Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Steczo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Senate Bill 750 is a shell Bill now dealing with historic preservation, and it's the intention of the Sponsor to try to move the Bill into a Conference Committee to see if it might be needed to address the situation as it relates to the subject matter."

"Any discussion? Representative Black."

"Yeah, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative, is there another Bill that you're carrying that we...that everyone wants to go to the Governor for a potential change or amendatory veto?"

"Representative Black, yes, House Bill... I believe it's House Bill 841 passed the Senate this morning, amended, and we'll be dealing with the concurrences on that Bill in the next couple days. As a backup, I would like to have the opportunity to have Senate Bill 750 sent to Conference in case it might be needed one way or another."

"And it's your intent that you won't bring this back without some reasonable degree of agreement between the parties?"

"This would be held, you know, should the provisions of 62  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 841 fail for any reasonable agreement that might come forth."

"Okay, thanks a lot."

"Question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 750 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 110 voting 'yes', none voting 'no'. Senate Bill 750, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Hicks, on 771. Has...care to have this Bill called? Seven seventy-one? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 771, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Finance Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Jefferson, the honorable Representative Hicks."

"Out of the record."

"Take it out of the record. Representative Matijevich, on Senate Bill 981. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk, 981."

"Senate Bill 981, a Bill for an Act to create the Illinois Occupational Information Coordinating Committee Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Matijevich."

"Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Senate Bill 981 creates the Illinois Occupational Information Coordinating Committee within the Department of Labor. The purpose of the committee will be to coordinate activities related to labor market information and to meet other needs for occupational and career information. The Bill is supported by the Department of Labor, and I'd appreciate your support."

"Any discussion on the Gentleman's Motion? 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day Hearing none... Weaver." Representative Black.

Representative Weaver: "Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this Bill creates a new task for the Department of Labor. It sets up a new division within the department and new rules and regulations for what reason we...I would assume can only be to take it out of contract hands. Currently, that job is being handled on the contract basis through Eastern Illinois University. There have been no complaints about how well the job is being done. They're doing a super job and I really don't see any need to expand the empire at the Department of Labor to take care of these facilities. I think it...I think it may be a good idea to look at things like this down the road, but like the old saying goes, 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it.' Everything seems to be working well as it is. I would suggest a 'no' or a 'present' vote on this."

"Representative Matijevich, to close."

"Speaker, this committee has never had statutory authority, and this gives it that statutory authority within the Department of Labor. That ought to be the place for it, and I'd appreciate your support."

"Question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 981 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Dunn, 'aye'. Anybody else? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are now 95 voting 'yes', 17 voting 'no'. Senate Bill 981, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Curran, on Senate Bill 1171. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1171, a Bill for an Act to amend the 64  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE State Finance Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Curran." June 26, 1991

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1171 has to be brought back to Second Reading for purposes of Amendments."

"Gentleman asks leave to return the Bill to the Order, of Second. Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing none, leave is granted. Bill's on Second. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"On the Order of Second Reading, Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Curran."

"Representative Curran."

"Amendment #1 incorporates provisions in Senate Bill 99, Senate Bill 223, Senate Bill 451, Senate Bill 65...565, Senate Bill 667, Senate Bill 723, Senate Bill 971 and Senate Bill 1030...1039, Senate Bill 1047, Senate Bill 1171, Senate Bill 1347 and Senate Bill 1348. These are Agreed Amendments. I've talked to the other side of the aisle; I don't think there's any opposition."

"Any discussion on the Amendments? Pullen: Curran: Representative Pullen." "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wonder whether the Gentleman would tell us what's in all those Bills he just cited, since that's what he is asking us to vote for." "Okay, I'll be... I'll be glad to if you got time. Senate Bill 99 amends the Illinois Purchasing Act. It prohibits a state agency from entering into contracts with individuals or entities that are delinquent on the payment of taxes administrated by the Department of Revenue. Senate Bill 223 amends the State Property Control Act. It requires an agency...an agency's annual real property ultization report to be submitted in addition to the other reports required by law. Senate Bill 451 amends the State Finance Act. It eliminates authorization to issue certificates of 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day participation. June 26, 1991 Five sixty-five amends the Mandates Act. It requires DCCA to submit to the Governor and to the General Assembly a review and report on all unfunded mandates enacted prior to January 1st this year. That report should be filed on October 1st this year. Six sixty-seven provides that no business entity shall be awarded a contract with any state agency unless a business entity files a disclosure statement. Seven twenty-three amends the Illinois Library Systems Act to include grants to public libraries and library systems for planning, as well as construction.. Nine seventy-one amends the Legislative Commission Reorganization Act. It requires that all state agencies file applications for federal funds directly with the I...Illinois Commission on Inter-Governmental Cooperation. Ten thirty-nine amends the Mandates Act requiring the Illinois Commission on Inter-Governmental Cooperation to hold semi-annual public hearings for review, to review certain findings of the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs. Ten forty-seven creates the Illinois IMSA Special Purposes Fund held by the State Treasurer outside the State Treasury for the deposit of federal aid and contract receipts in connection with the Illinois Math and Science Academy, authorizes the Academy to transfer funds from the IMSA Income Fund into the IMSA Special Purposes Trust Fund. Eleven seventy-one increases the maximum amount of state agency petty cash funds. Thirteen forty-seven provides Central Management Services shall promulgate rules concerning maintaining books and records for at least five years and review these books by...review of these books by the Auditor General, and 1348 creates an Act which prohibited...prohibits state agencies or their officers or employees from creating any corporation, joint venture, 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 association, or other organizational entity which excercises, expands or enhances duties, powers or responsibilities of a state agency unless specifically authorized by the General Assembly."

"Thank you."

"Any further discussion? Representative Deuchler."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, these Amendments and points that were covered by Representative Curran were presented in our State Government Operations Committee. This and the following Amendments have been agreed to. They have been signed off on CMS, and we have been very carefully looking at the Amendments that are going to be presented."

"Further discussion? Representative Wojcik."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield? Representative, there's a...an Amendment here referring to township employees could be hired to man park district or the state parks. Could you explain that?"

"Which Amendment are you talking about?"

"I don't have them numbered in my analysis here."

"Well, we're talking about Amendment #1."

"Okay. Oh, you're only doing Amendment...I'm on Amendment #2, I think. Okay, thank you."

"Amendment #2 has already passed out of here, but we can talk about it again, if you like?"

"It's out already?"

"It passed on House Bill 1309 which had... Why don't we wait till we get to that? We're dealing with Amendment #1. I'll be glad to talk about it at great length, if you like."

"Thank you."

"Representative Davis." 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of this chamber. I'd like to just take this opportunity to say hello to some special 4-H-ers from my district. They're from DuPage County. Raise your hands, and they're from Cook County and they wanted to see Representative Davis. Would you give them a hand, please?"

"Representative Curran, did you want to close?"

"I move the adoption of Amendment #1, agreed upon by the other side of the aisle."

"All those in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'nay'. Opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Curran et al."

"Representative Curran."

"Amendment #2 has the provisions of House Bill 1309 which was eight Democratic Bills...six Republican Bills which passed out of here about a month ago unanimously. The Senate Sponsor didn't get to the committee in time, so the Bill died without having the Sponsor show up in the committee, so what we're doing is just passing eight Democratic Bills and six Republican Bills that we passed before, and this time we'll get the Senate Sponsor to be on time."

"Any discussion on the Amendment? Hearing none, all those in favor of the Amendment say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3 is being offered by Representative Curran."

"Representative Curran, on Amendment #3."

"Amendment #3 correlates the provisions of Senate Bill 677 which we just agreed to on Amendment #1, but it says 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 that those contracts shall be in excess of $5,000. It's an Agreed Amendment. Move the adoption of Amendment #3."

"Any discussion? There's no discussion. All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed, 'nays'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's passed. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3 offered by Representative Curran."

"We just did Amendment #3."

"Number 4."

"Sorry, that's Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Curran."

"Amendment #4 is a Department of Conservation cleanup Bill to satisfy problems of transferring money. We're doing this for the Department of Conservation. Move the adoption of Amendment #4."

"Any discussion on Amendment #4? There be no discussion, all in favor will signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment #4 is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5, offered by Representative Curran."

"Representative Curran on Amendment #5."

"Amendment #5 is offered to satisfy the Department of Central Management Service's concerns to clean up the surplus property language provisions in Amendment #2."

"Any discussion?"

"Move the adoption of Amendment #5."

"Motion made to adopt Amendment #5. All in favor signify by by saying 'aye', those opposed, 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it and Amendment #5 is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #6, Curran." 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

"Mr. Curran."

"Amendment #6 also agreed, makes satellite...makes a satellite up-length program to interested private parties, the state government still having first priority."

"Any discussion on Amendment #6? There being no further discussion, all in favor will signify by saying 'aye', those opposed, 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it, and Amendment #6 is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #7, offered by Representative Curran."

"Withdraw Amendment #7; that Bill is already passed."

"Gentleman asks leave to withdraw Amendment #7, and Amendment #7 is withdrawn. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #8, offered by Representative Curran."

"Amendment #8 incorporates the provisions of House Bill 1923 which passed unanimously in the House and now needs to be passed in the Senate."

"Any discussion on Amendment #8? All those in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Alright, the Bills are on the Order of Third Reading. Leave it on Third, Mr. Clerk. We'll go to the next Order of Business which is Representative Matijevich on 1189. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1189, a Bill for an Act to create the Commission on Economic (sic Economy) and Productivity in the State Government. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Matijevich."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Senate Bill 1189 provides for a review of the operation administration of state agencies to bring about maximum productivity, efficiency and economies. Its intent is to seek to foster a broad management improvement program, to maximize program revenues and reduce cost and recommend programs of cost avoidance. I'd appreciate your support."

"Any discussion? Representative Black."

"Yeah, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Question of the Sponsor."

"Proceed."

"Yeah, Representative, I don't think anybody could quarrel with you on trying to create a commission to try to figure out how to enhance economy and productivity in state government, but it's going to, according to the Comptroller, it's going to cost us a quarter of million dollars to set this thing up. Maybe we just ought to pull this out of the record and save us a quarter million. I don't know, I...your thoughts on it might help me decide how to vote on this Bill."

"Well, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. That is the Fiscal Note provided by the Comptroller, but the Comptroller has also said that there will be long-term cost reductions and a benefit to the taxpayers by these economies that will come about. All of the members of this commission will be appointed by the Governor, so it's not going to be a political commission. The only...the executive director will be appointed by the Governor and the four legislative leaders, but it will be entirely a commission by the Governor, and all of us, at some time or another, have said that there can be cost cutting in state government. This provides a mechanism for cost cutting, and I think it would be a good thing for the state." 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"John, John, I...forgive me if I implied that it was political, because it certainly is not, you're correct about that, and I'll defer to your experience in this Body. If you're telling me that you honestly think this will help us define more effectively how to be more productive and save money, and I think that's what you just said, then I'll agree with ya, and I'll vote with ya. I'll defer to your experience, and we can only hope that it does what you say it will."

"Thank you, Bill."

"Further discussion? Question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1189 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? John Dunn, 'aye', Mr. Clerk. Anybody else? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 76 voting 'yes', 36 voting 'no', and Senate Bill 1189, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Granberg on Senate Bill 1264. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1264, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to reorganization of asbestos abatement activities. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Gentleman from Clinton, Representative Granberg."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 1264, as amended, amends the Capital Development Board Act to abolish the Illinois Asbestos Abatement Authority and transfers its functions in operations to the Capital Development Board. This Bill has been agreed to by the Attorney General's Office and the Capital Development Board, and I would ask for your favorable support." 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 73rd Legislative Day

"Any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1264 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On this question, there are 109 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no', and Senate Bill 1264, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Hasara on 1249. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1249, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Aeronautics Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Hasara...asks the Bill to be read a third time. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1249, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Aeronautics Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1249 does two things. First of all, the state no longer regulates registration of air instruction, aeronautics instructors and air schools. That's now handled by the feds, so this Bill takes that language out. Also, we now require the registration of pilots and aircraft annually. Actual certificates are issued by the federal government, so we are changing our own state registration to every other year. I move for the...for its adoption."

"Any discussion? Question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1249 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', none voting 'no', and Senate Bill 1249, having received the 73  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Capparelli, on Senate Bill 779. It's on the Order of Second. Do you wish to have that called? Representative Capparelli, George. Representative Capparelli."

"I would like to put Senate Bill 779 in Interim Study, please."

"Gentleman asks leave to put Senate Bill 779 on the Order of Interim Study. Would you come up here and sign the form, Representative Capparelli? Seven seventy-nine. You have to sign the slip. Representative Hicks on the Order of State and Local Government. That's Senate Bill 771. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 771, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Finance Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Okay, Mr. Clerk, did you read the Bill 771? Read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 771, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Finance Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Hicks."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I would like leave of the Body to take the Bill back to Second Reading for purposes of an Amendment."

"Gentleman asks leave to return the Bill back to Second. Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing none, leave is granted. The Bill's on Second. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"This Bill has been read a second time previously. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Curran."

"Representative Hicks."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. House Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 771 is a Bill...is an Amendment that was requested by CMS, and what it does, it embodies the 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 language and makes the Bill parallel to House Bill 242 that was passed out of this House, and I'd be happy to answer any questions on Amendment #1."

"Representative Black."

"Yeah, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative, was this a... Did you say this was requested by CMS or CMS supports it?"

"It was requested by CMS..."

"Okay."

"...to be added to the Bill."

"And there's... Why do we have to certify this information?"

"I believe for payment of any type of unused sick leave that has been requested that we need to certify with those individual agencies before any of that does get paid that those number of days are actually certified by that department as being something the employee would be entitled to."

"Okay, alright. I'm sorry, in other words this is for separation or layoff."

"Yes, exactly right."

"Alright, I apologize and stand in support of your Amendment."

"All those in favor of the Amendment say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. Opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1328, Representative Hicks. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1328, a Bill for an Act in relation to taxation. Third Reading of the Bill." 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"The Gentleman from Jefferson, Representative Hicks: Hicks." "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1328, as amended, does several things and I'll try to refresh the Body's memory on these. It restores the Chicago Bar Association rewrite of delinquent properties; also, provides provisions requested from the Department of Revenue; also, it encompasses the Amendment placed on by Representative Schoenberg that I think is a non-controversial Amendment now that takes care of a problem. I'll be happy to try to answer any question on the Bill."

"Representative Black."

"Yeah, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Thank you. Representative, at one time... Well, have you repealed the Amendment that abates some property taxes on Eagle Creek Lodge down in Shelbyville? this Bill or did you take that off?"

Is that still on Hicks: "That is off now, Sir."

"Okay, that was Amendment #2, correct?"

"Correct."

"Okay. Thank you very much, Representative. direct the question to the Clerk, if I might, Mr. Speaker."

"Proceed."

"Thank you. Mr. Clerk, has Amendment #2 been adopted to this Bill?"

"Representative Black, Amend... The Clerk informs the Chair that Amendments 2 and 5 are on the Bill; 3 and are not."

4 Black: "Okay. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Then I need to ask the Sponsor another question." 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

June 26, 1991 "Representative Hicks. Representative Black." "Yeah, Representative, and I appreciate your patience, I'm trying to remember district boundaries. I, you know, I don't think you come up that far where you're at Eagle Creek. I guess I don't understand why you're taking off that property tax abatement off...off of Eagle Creek Lodge."

"I believe, Representative, that last year was the year which we gave the abatement to them. Now, suddenly, certain people want to take it back. I believe there's certain departments who would like to see it stay on. We did that, as a General Assembly, we did that. Now there are certain people who seem to think they're going to have a windfall of dollars coming into their local townships, for example, if this goes about. I think we made a commitment to the different lodges around the state that it was good business, a good policy, to have those in their local areas, and I think they gain from that. I wish I had a big one down at Rend Lake so my area could gain from it, but now then they see that once they're billed and we've made commitments that suddenly they want to either renege on those commitments or whatever. I believe it is something we should be allowed to keep for sometime and that's the reason for putting it in and doing the repealer."

"I'll tell you what, Representative, if you would... Could you and I get together here in the center aisle for about two minutes? Take this Bill out of the record? There's some real confusion on what one of these Amendments does. I think you and I can get together in about a minute and a half and get this straightened out."

"Representative, I'd be happy to meet you anytime."

"Thank you very much." 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

"Take the Bill out of the record, Mr. Clerk." June 26, 1991

"Take it out. The Chair would like to make an announcement. One of the Pages went and had three copies of a...an Amendment drafted. I believe it's 1086, pertained to gambling, and the Lady forgot who gave her the request. Does any... Anybody here in the chamber ask one of the Pages to have an Amendment of...three copies of an Amendment, to Senate Bill 1086? You found it? Okay. Thank you. Alright, we're going to go to the Order of Professional Regulation, and on that Order appears Senate Bill 131, Representative Curran. One thirty-one. Do you wish to have this Bill called? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 131, a Bill for an Act to regulate the conduct of balloon dart games. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Curran."

"This Bill has been amended to make it a vehicle. We put an immediate effective date. The Senate Sponsor would like to have this in a conference, and so would I. The Senate Sponsor is Senator Woodyard."

"Any discussion? The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 131 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 98 voting 'yes' and 9 voting 'no'. Senate Bill 131, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 198, Representative Steczo. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 198, a Bill for an Act to amend the Clinical Psychologists Licensing Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Steczo." 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

June 26, 1991 "Thank you Mr. Speaker. I ask leave to bring Senate Bill 198 back to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment."

"Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing none, leave is granted. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"This Bill's been read a second time previously. Floor Amendments (sic - Amendment) #1, offered by Representative Steczo."

"Representative Steczo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. The effect of Amendment #1 is to, in large part, you know, make this Amendment the Bill, to work...in doing so, we accommodate the concerns of the Illinois Psychological Association, so this Bill, in effect, would be a...an agreed Bill, which establishes reasonable conditions whereby a doctorate level school psychologist may sit for the clinical psychologist examination. I move for the adoption of the Amendment, Mr. Speaker."

"Any discussion on the Amendment? Hearing none, all those in favor of the Amendment say 'aye', opposed, 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 325. Representative Levin? Senate Bill 325? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 325, a Bill for an Act to amend the Plat Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Levin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 gutted this Bill. The intention is to send this Bill to Conference Committee to work out agreed language between the surveyors and the title companies. Simply ask for your favorable support for this Bill so we 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day can keep it moving."

"Representative Black." June 26, 1991

"Yeah, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I...we asked you this yesterday, Representative, we just want to reconfirm that we are together on this. You're only going to use this for the land surveyors and other parties to deal with the issue of plats, correct?"

"That is my intention."

"Thank you very much."

"Further discussion? The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 325 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 113 voting 'yes', none voting 'no', and Senate Bill 325, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Alright, we're going to return to the Order of 1328, Mr. Clerk. Representative Hicks. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1328, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to taxation. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Hicks."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I did tell you what was in Senate Bill 1328 a few minutes ago. There is, of course, some disagreement on 1328, with Representative Noland, concerning the Shelbyville exemption in the Bill. Really, what thedisagreement is, is how much of a rebate of taxes should there really be? That's the disagreement, so that everyone in the House understands very clearly. Mine actually allows for a, probably a, larger amount of a rebatement of taxes than does what Representative Noland possibly wants. I'll let him explain that position, but I'll be happy to 80  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day try to answer any questions." June 26, 1991

"Any discussion? The Gentleman from Macon, Representative Noland."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative Hicks is correct. We have oppositioned (sic) this Bill because we had an agreement that hasn't been carried out. We've got a problem with offering an abatement that we've...we never agreed to. The developer of the resort, Ed Forester and Senator Severns and I met with the taxing bodies. This exemption abates all the taxes for all taxing bodies, when two of them never agreed to it. The County of Shelby and Lakeland Community College never agreed to abate these taxes, SO there's a problem. This Bill does more than we agreed to. So I ask that you oppose this Bill. We've spoken with the developer, the taxing bodies. We've got a side agreement. We agreed to in writing. This Bill does more than what we agreed to. I'd ask you to oppose it because of that Amendment. Thank you."

"Representative Dunn."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I, too, along with my colleague from the adjoining district, rise in opposition to this legislation because of the Amendment which was put on the Bill. We're in difficult economic times in the State of Illinois, and we are in difficult economic times, at least in part, because of projects which were not economically sound when they were first...when they were conceived and some of them built. We have in our area a lodge at Eagle Creek on Lake Shelbyville which was built by a private developer with State of Illinois tax incentives and tax breaks. That was a policy decision by this state. The developer is entitled to the benefits of that policy. The developer has constructed that lodge. It is up and running and open. 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 What was not part of the deal, however, were local property tax breaks for every taxing body that has the opportunity to tax in the area of that resort. As a previous speaker has correctly indicated, there were at least two taxing bodies (one of them being the community college, Lakeland Community College at Mattoon; the other being the County of Shelby) who did not sign off, who did not agree to abate taxes. We talk about the need for local governments and county governments to obtain revenue. This situation has taken away from those two local governmental units the right and opportunity to capture some revenue from this resort, which you and I authorized as part of state policy to be constructed and built. If that resort was built with our funds and those two governmental units did not sign off, they ought to have the opportunity to include those...that resort in their tax base. So I would urge defeat of this legislation at this time, so that we can go back and restructure this Bill to take out the provision affecting Eagle Creek Resort at Lake Shebyville, and whatever else the Bill involves is something that we're not especially concerned with. At this time we're concerned about this Amendment. This is not in my legislative district, but it affects the entire region and fair is fair. We ought to all be on a level playing field. The previous speaker is exactly right: This Bill should be defeated in its present form and restructured. I urge a 'present' or 'no' vote on this Bill."

"Representative Black."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I just want to explain my vote at the appropriate time."

"Representative Kubik."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I, too, would rise in opposition to this particular 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Bill. All of the other provisions in the Bill, with the exception of Amendment #2, are agreeable. Amendment #2 is the problem, and what it really gets down to is that we are mandating a...an abatement on two local taxing...for two local taxing bodies who are not a part of the agreement, and, quite honestly, they have an agreement. We ought to defeat this particular Bill and bring it back without this Amendment. So I would ask all of those...all of you to look at this Bill very carefully. It will impact two taxing bodies who are not part of an agreement, as Representative Noland pointed out, and I think it is unfair to them and unfair to the taxpayers of their districts to mandate this abatement. So let's oppose this particular Bill for now. Let's see if we can get this Amendment removed and pass it as an agreed Bill, so I would urge opposition to 1328 as it is amended."

"Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I rise in support of the Bill. I think there is a good deal of overreaction to House Amendment 2. Remember that there were no taxes on this property; it was owned by the Department of Conservation, and I think Representative Hicks makes a good point when he says that the offer of an abatement was important to the people who developed that facility in one of our state parks. There is every opportunity, however, for the Senate to reject House Amendment 2, and I think that if we do support this Bill, that option is one that will be available to the people who passed this Bill to us with the repeal of that tax exemption in it. Let me just mention my support for some other portions of the Bill, including the section that deals with the Revenue Committees of this chamber and of the Senate joint study of fiscal practices by local units 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 of government. This Study Committee Program would deal with questions about how local government's fiscal policies are or are not inefficient, looking at issues like balloon levies, looking at questions of the use of tort liability funds and so forth and so on. This study approach came out of a very lengthy, detailed analysis of local government fiscal practices performed by the Taxpayers' Federation of Illinois, and I think that that proposal deserves support. It's similar to language in Senate Bill 1329, so I urge a 'yes' vote on Senate Bill 1328."

"Representative Hicks to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. At this late hour, I find it very distressing to cause so much controversy over an Amendment that I think... I'm simply trying to leave the law as it is on the rebate...on the abatement of taxes in this taxing district. We're not fighting over a whole lot of dollars here. What we're fighting over is a, in reality, a township road commissioner, for example, is one example, who suddenly decided he could have some new tax money, regardless of the fact that he's already got a much-enhanced gas tax, revenues that could become available to him because of the enhanced purchasing of gas in the area, of employment in the area, of all different types of things. So I think we're talking about really not quite such a big argument as we believe we have, and I would ask the...for your passage of Senate Bill 1328."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1328 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. Representative Black."

"Yeah, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Perhaps, I won't have to explain my vote, but if I could have your attention. You know, late in the Session, tempers get 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 short and we spend hour after hour on this floor, and it sometimes can get very partisan in here, and this Bill will have to pass or fail on its own merits, but I just want to say to Larry Hicks, I appreciate his spirit of cooperation in taking this Bill out of the record so we could get some confusion over an Amendment straightened out. He didn't have to do that, and I think when all of us seem to get all tied up in partisan activities and yell and scream at each other, let's just keep in mind, in the next few days, it doesn't always have to be that way. It wasn't that way on this Bill that's important to not only Representative Hicks, but Representative Noland, and I appreciate your kindness, Representative Hicks. Thank you very much."

"Representative...not yet. Have all voted who wish? Representative Hicks. Representative Hicks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Well, I guess being a good guy gets your Bills beat around here, so that's fine. There's no problem. If the Bill dies, the Bill dies. There are a lot of good provisions in the Bill, things that I think are very, very good. I think all parts of the Bill are very good. I think the discussion about Amendment #2 is wrongfully placed, and I believe there's too many good provisions in this Bill to let this Bill die. If that's the choice of the Body, then certainly it can die."

"Representative Schoenberg. You seeking recognition? Have all voted who wish? Representative Pullen. Representative Pullen."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate your having given an opportunity to clarify a misstatement that was made during Second Reading on this Bill, and I'm wondering whether Mr. Schoenberg would wish to speak to that or whether I need to do that now." 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"Representative Schoenberg indicates he doesn't Pullen: want to speak it." to a I "Okay, then, Mr. Speaker, I would like to clarify that in response question that asked him during Second Reading, relative to whether the Amendment included a study of the potential sunset of units of local government, he replied that it did not, and, Mr. Speaker, if the Amendment wording is checked, the House Members will find that he was in error in making that statement, and thank you for giving me the opportunity clarify that point, that this Amendment did include a study of sunset governments. Thank you." to of local

"Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 51 voting 'yes', and 61 voting.'no', and Senate Bill 1328, having failed to receive the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared lost. Representative Hicks."

"Mr. Speaker, I guess I would like to bring one thing to point here if I may, with leave of the Body. Understand if, from my standpoint and from my point of view, if this Bill loses, I win. Representative Noland, understand, if this Bill loses, I win because you don't repeal the section of the law that gave them the abatement in the first place. So, the abatement stands. If this Bill fails, as it is, which I guess it already has, the reality is that the abatement stands as it is. All you're arguing is about my Amendment 2, which repealed the repealer. So, the Sections of this Bill that are the good Sections of this Bill, the part that all of us are for in this Bill, that's what loses. The parts that you're against when you vote against it are going to stay the law as it currently is. So the reality is, all the things you're for, you defeat by voting 'no'. All the things you're against, win by you voting 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day 'no'." June 26, 1991

"Representative Hicks, the Bill lost. Senate Bill 841 was taken out of the record earlier. Representative Woolard. This Bill was on the Agreed Bill List and taken off. There was an Amendment put on. The Chair recognizes Representative Woolard. The Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 841, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Woolard."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. What we'd like to attempt to do here is just to remove the Amendment that was put on a few minutes ago, Amendment #3. We'd like to remove, and then we would ask consideration for this to be restored to the Agreed Bill List."

"The Gentleman asks leave to bring the Bill back to the Order of Second Reading for the... 841, 841, Mr. Clerk. The Gentleman asks leave to bring this Bill back to the Order of Second Reading to remove an Amendment. Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing none, leave is granted. The Bill's back to the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"This Bill's been read a second time previously. A Motion to table Amendment #3."

"The Gentleman asks leave to table Amendment #3. Table Amendment #3. Are there further Amendments? Hearing none, leave is granted."

"No further Amendments."

"Table (sic Amendment) #3 has been tabled."

"Now, I'd like consideration for this to be restored to the Agreed Bill List, Mr. Speaker."

"Alright. There are no further Amendments, move the Bill back to the Order of Third Reading. Now, on the 87  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 Agreed Bill List, does the Gentleman have leave by the Attendance Roll Call to bring this back to the Order of Third Reading on the Agreed Bill List, and on that question, Representative Cowlishaw."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. We truly appreciate the cooperation of Representative Woolard in this issue, and of course, have no objection, now that that troublesome Amendment has been removed to having this put back on the Agreed Bill list. Thank you very much."

"By the Attendance Roll Call, the Bill is now on the Agreed Bill List. The Bill been read a third time, Mr. Clerk? Alright, now, all the Bills on the... Mr. Clerk, read Senate Bill 828."

"Senate Bill 828, a Bill for an Act to create the Private Enterprise Review and Advisory Board. Third Reading of the Bill."

"All these Bills now, having been on the Agreed Bill List and read a third time, the question is, 'Shall these Bills pass?' This is the Agreed Bill List. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. Alright, the change of vote forms are on the counter of the Clerk's well here. Anybody wishing to change any votes on the Agreed Bill List, kindly come up here. Representative Morrow, do you wish to be recorded as voting 'aye' on the Agreed Bill List, Sir? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. Alright, we will close the voting at approximately 3:30. Alright, the Chair would like to announce again that the change of votes, for your vote on the Agreed Bill List, the forms are on the well here by the Clerk's office, and we will record those votes at approximately 3:30. Senator Novak, Senate Bill 407. Would you like to call this Bill? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 88  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991

"Senate Bill 407, a Bill for an Act to amend the Barbers, Cosmetology and Aesthetics Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Novak."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 407 amends the Barber, Cosmetology and Aesthetics Act and provides for the registration and regulation of nail technicians, nail technology teachers, nail technology schools by the Department of Professional Regulation. Establishes qualifications for the registration of each. Requires each nail technician to be at least 16 years of age. It adds nail technology to the Cosmetology Act. It includes qualifications for the certification as to what is defined as a technician and a technician teacher, grandfathers in pre-existing practitioners, provides for the regulation of nail technology schools and on and on, concerning the regulation of this industry. Just in a very brief manner: The personal health care industry has grown tremendously over the last few years. More and more people in our society spend more of their disposable income on persona. care. Nail technology is one of those avenues that has grown from a small shop operation, where people just usually, as we say, do nails and clean fingers and things to a much more complex and much more consumer-oriented profession. These individuals in this business that (sic who) wish to be regulated are now handling toxic chemicals, and they want to make sure that people who will be licensed are properly qualified to handle those toxic chemicals. In addition to that, they also handle machinery that never was used before, in the practice of nail technology. There have been lawsuits concerning people that have had their hands and fingers not done in the proper manner, and this is a 89  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 good consumer protection Bill, and I'd ask support." for everyone's

"Any discussion? Representative Regan."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Again, we have another licensing Act. A little later on today, we'll be talking about dog trainers. Now we're talking about nail polishers. Where does it stop? Twenty-nine applications for new licensures. You know all this is is just closing ranks and raising fees. I don't think that anyone in the state, this budget year, would like $82,000,000, the estimated cost of this. The position has always been that let's watch very carefully who we register and who we don't. to take Those that are in dangerous occupations, certainly, I agree with licensing, but manicurists? I don't think so. I'd advise a 'no' vote."

"Representative Johnson."

"I guess I'd ask the Sponsor...the explanation, Phil. Is the Department taking a position on this, the Department of Professional Regulation?"

"Yes. Yes, they have."

"What is it?"

"Well, they indicate there's... It's going to cost about, according to their analysis, about $100,000 or maybe, no less than that, about $75,000 start-up costs. We dispute those figures because there are many more registered or, I should say, there are many more nail technology people, supply houses and people, that (sic - who) are in the business in Illinois than what the Department of Professional Regulation indicates. They indicate only about, I think, 900 people that (sic - who) would actually be licensed. I have letters in my file here from cosmetology schools in Chicago and supply houses that have over 2,000 people on their mailing lists. So there's... 90  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Representative Johnson, there will be ample revenues to cover the costs."

"So your answer to my question is, 'They're opposed to it.' Right? Well, to the Bill then, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. With all due respect to Representative Novak, a good friend and district mate, almost, on the other side of the aisle, this really is not the kind of legislation that we ought to be considering at this stage or any stage of the Session. What we've tried to do over the last 15 years in this state, and we've succeeded to a large degree, is to eliminate some of the unnecessary regulations of the private sector of the State of Illinois. We seem to be headed towards the privatization-sort of a concept where the state isn't regulating everything. The Sunset Act that we passed a number of years ago has been one that I think is very forward-looking, but now we come back in, after we make that step forward, and on issue after issue and profession after profession, we erect new series of regulations that only cost the private sector and cost the taxpayers as well. The fact of the matter is, the only reason we have this kind of legislation pending, and you all know it, everybody in here knows it, regardless of how you vote on this Bill, is it's a way that we can protect, economically protect, people in the profession and create a monopoly that is created by the state. That's not what we ought to be doing. There may be, and I guess there are, certain areas that ought to be regulated. We ought to regulate doctors, and we ought to regulate dentists and so forth, but nail technicians is (sic are) certainly not one of those areas that are life and health-safety-related and that the state ought to get in the business of creating a monopoly for, so that we can keep other people out of the 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 profession. Now, I assume, and I will assume, that the Sponsors of this Bill are well-intended, misdirected but well-intended, but this is not, from any stand point, a good piece of legislation, and it's something that ultimately we ought to be doing the opposite of and that everybody ought to vote against."

"Representative Parke."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. On the face of this legislation, one would think that, 'So you do nails; what big deal is that?' But, quite frankly, you must understand that a lot of these people deal with chemicals and equipment that is important to know how to use it. What they want to do, their own industry wants to provide this legislation, so that they have the ability to regulate those people, be able to tell them and train them on the proper way of using this equipment and, in addition, there are literally thousands of people that are doing this kind of business without any regard to how they're doing it, and I think that there's more than enough people to pay for the registration for this, and I would ask that we would pass this legislation so that the people of this state are protected, and I might also point out for a lot of people, all over the inner cities, from many of the, especially the women, this is the only way that they have of getting into a career area that gives them an immediate way of starting to develop a career that will provide an income for them, especially those that are single parents and head (sic - heads) of households. I think that this is a good idea and necessary legislation."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. I find it very interesting that so many of my male legislative friends are against this particular Bill, because I think 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 73rd Legislative Day what the Bill addresses is 'sculptured nails', such as I have on my hands for about 14 years. If a person isn't trained properly to put on the process for a sculptured nail, it gets a fungus infection, and when I was down in. Florida I saw where a woman .all 10 nails, she was going to lose them. That's what this Bill is all about: So that these women that are getting their nails sculptured, they're having it put on by somebody that (sic who) knows what the heck they're doing, so that we don't have nails falling off and fungus infections. It's a health measure and a consumer measure. I would encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Cowlishaw."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This legislation reminds me of a...of a very, I think a very relevant story, about the American businessman who had been sent to Europe on a business trip, and while he was there, he was thinking about his one and only child, a daughter, whom he very much loved and who had only one bad habit: His daughter bit her fingernails. She bit them constantly, right into the quick. They had tried everything to get this girl to stop biting her fingernails. So, in desperation, the father finally decided to take one final step: He bought a post card and sent it home to his daughter. On one side was a picture of the Venus deMilo, and on the other side was a message, 'This is what you're going to look like if you don't stop biting your fingernails.'"

"Representative Parcells."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in opposition to this Bill, too, because we're registering and regulating everything in this state to the point that we can't move. This is a good job for young girls who start out, to start as a manicurist, to learn their trade. We're going to 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 eliminate those girls from this field. Many salons willno longer have somebody because they can't get a registered girl, and then it's going to cost people a lot more money to have their nails done. Before we know it, we'll be registering and licensing paper boys, dog walkers, window washers, lawn cutters, all of these things where people can start out and make money. This does not help economic development at all, and by the way when you are licensed, you can still have mistakes of burning. People who give permanent waves to women, still sometimes burn their heads, so it isn't a matter of that they don't know how to handle the things; they learn how to do that, but to license is to up the price, cut the supply and close the door for those people who could start out, as a young girl, as a manicurist and learn a trade. I ask for your 'no' vote on this Bill."

"Representative Monroe Flinn."

"Mr. Speaker, I move the previous question."

"You've heard the Gentleman's Motion. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The previous question has been moved. Representative Novak, to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As indicated in previous testimony, this is a growing industry. People that (sic who) serve in this industry right now have indicated their willingness and support to be licensed and regulated; to reiterate, they handle very dangerous toxic chemicals that can hurt someone's skin and cause severe skin reactions and other medical conditions. We certainly don't want unqualified and unlicensed people to handle those pertinent toxic chemicals. So, I'd ask for your 'aye' support."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 407 pass?' 94  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 All in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 74 voting 'yes', 39 voting 'no'. House... Representative Shirley Jones, for what purpose do you rise?" Jones, S.: "Yeah. May I explain my vote, please? Can I explain my vote?"

"You have one minute to explain your vote. We're on the Roll Call vote." Jones, S.: "Mr. Speaker, they're still going to sell these nails in the store, just like they do perm for the hair. I don't see no purpose for this Bill, because we still could go and buy nails at a store and put them on, so I advise everybody to vote 'no' on this Bill."

"Representative McCracken votes 'no'. Representative Woolard votes 'no'. Representative Cronin wants to change his vote to 'aye', Mr. Clerk. Representative Davis wants to...Representative Davis. George?"

"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to change my vote also to 'no', for the simple reason that Representative Shirley Jones is absolutely correct that even though we have licensed a group of technicians, these nails, the glue that puts them on your fingers and all the other adornments, are still available in the beauty supply stores. People will still go and purchase them and be able to put them on their own nails, and I think we're setting up a false situation. Not only will the nail be false, but this piece of legislation is really false in reference to its being able to regulate this industry at this point and by whose standards will we be operating? So, I think it should be a 'no' vote. Thank you." 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

Speaker Giglio:

June 26, 1991 "Okay, Representative Laurino votes 'aye'. Representative Black." "Well, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. If we could get a few more votes off of this thing, I was, I had jumped up to request a verification, but when I did, I broke my nail and now I'm so mad, I just don't know what to do."

"Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 74 voting 'yes', 40 voting 'no', and Senate Bill 407, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Alright, Senate Bill 771, Representative Hicks. Is Representative Hicks in the chamber? Out of the record. Representative Steczo, on Senate Bill 198. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 198, a Bill for an Act to amend the Clinical Psychologists Licensing Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Steczo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. As I indicated earlier, when the Amendment was adopted to this Bill, this Bill represents an agreement now between the Illinois School Psychologists Association and the Illinois Psychological Association, regarding the establishment of reasonable conditions whereby a doctorate level school psychologist may sit for a clinical psychologist's examination. I would ask for your 'yes' votes."

"Any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 198 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 106 votes...108 voting 'yes', none voting 'no', and Senate Bill 198, having received the 96  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 443, Representative Giorgi. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 443, a Bill for an Act concerning regulation of electricians. This Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Giorgi."

"Representative Giorgi."

"Mr. Speaker, Amendment #2 allows for some exemptions to the Electrical Licensing Act, and it exempts utility workers in plants with over 2,000 people, and it exempts the structural engineers, exempts architects and those people that should not be included in this type of licensure, and I urge the adoption of the Amendment."

"Any discussion on the Amendment? Representative Black."

"Yeah, thank you very much, Mr Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates he will."

"Representative, I...as I've told you, I've got some problems with the Bill, but let me address my questions with the Amendment. Does your Amendment exempt any of the electricians employed by telephone companies or power companies, utility companies?"

"Yes, my Amendment or Anthony Young's which follows this, exempt (sic exempts) those two categories."

"What...on this sheet, I don't see specifically where they're exempted. I see with 2,000 more, okay, here it is: 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day electric, municipal, June 26, 1991 railway, utility, independent contractor... I don't specifically see telephone companies. Should we have some specific language in there?"

"There...it's a roundabout inclusion that the telephone company wrote themselves. They excluded...they used enough language SO that they excluded the telephone company employees, and they are not mentioned anywhere else in the Act, so they're satisfied with that Amendment."

"Okay. So, you think that portion of the utility companies would be satisfied with the Act? Okay."

"They're the ones who wrote it."

"Alright. Just so you'll let me reserve some comments on the Bill, later on, I have no further questions."

"Representative Kulas."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield? Representative Giorgi, for the purpose of legislative intent, is it the intention of the Sponsor that this Amendment exempt telephone companies and their employees from the licensing requirements established by this Act?"

"Implicitly and explicitly."

"Thank you."

"Representative Shaw."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Representative Giorgi, no, no, Representative Giorgi, I... for legislative intent."

"Yes."

"The...Chicago...it...they hold...alright...they issue...holds (sic hold) their own exam for licensing electricians. What happens?"

"They can continue doing that as long as it's not in...in contradiction of state law."

"Alright, in the City of Chicago, once I take the exam and achieve this master's electrician license, can I then go 98  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE into Chicago and do work in Chicago?"

"If they're licensed by the state and electrician and the job calls for a master June 26, 1991 are a master electrician, they will be allowed to do the job."

"Alright, if I'm licensed as a contractor...if I'm licensed as a contractor..."

"There's reciprocity across the board, Mr. Shaw."

"Alright, you have total reciprocity?"

"Yes, Sir."

"Okay. One of the other things, the bridge tenders in Chicago, do they still have to be a member of..."

"Mr. Shaw..."

"Yes."

"What happens is there is a board of electrical examiners created, and they'll determine those peculiar questions, but we allow 180 days for people to be grandfathered in as long as they fit the categories we've described."

"Well, excuse me. The bridge tenders of Chicago are not an electrician, but they're required to be a member of that union to, in order to hold that job. What does this do for the bridge tenders?"

"They can still be union members; they can still be classified electricians in their union, but they're not electricians according to this Act."

"They would still be a member of the union, 134, whatever the..."

"One thirty-four would have to help them get grandfathered in; 134 would have to do the work for them to get grandfathered in."

"In other words, they just wouldn't be put out of a job as a result of this legislation here?"

"They wouldn't be doing residential electrical work or powerhouse electrical work with that kind of a 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 qualification, but the electrical examining board will have the final say on who would qualify in various categories."

"Alright. One other question, the...on the people that work at the race track, that work the machines at the race track, would...what does this legislation do for those people?"

"They are still members of the electrical workers' union, but they are not electricians according to this Act."

"Okay. Thank you."

"Further discussion? Representative Giorgi, to close."

"I urge adoption of the Amendment."

"All those in favor of the Amendment say 'aye'; opposed, 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Anthony Young."

"Representative Anthony Young."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #3 is the Amendment that was a compromise between the black contractors and the members of the union. It requires that the examinations for licenses be conducted by the state and that the state Department of Labor will take into consideration the minority makeup of the population as they appoint members to this board. It defines the proof of the apprenticeship programs. It gives credit for experience during high school and pre-high school programs, and I move for its adoption."

"Any discussion? Representative Weaver."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates he will."

"Representative, I appreciate the amount of time and 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 effort that you've put in on this Bill and the Amendment, and...but I just have a couple of points that I need clarification on the Amendment, does that take the power from the board of electrical examiners and gives it to the director?"

"No, it doesn't. Well, it does, and it doesn't."

"As we read the Amendment, it takes the eligibility requirements from the...establishing the eligibility requirements from the board and gives it to the director. Is that..."

"That is correct."

"Why would we want to do that?"

"There was a concern in order to make sure that the application process was fair, that it not be dominated by the unions and a lot of people thought that this screening process, the initial process, would be better conducted under the auspices of the state than left to the unions."

"So, what happens if you get a director that causes you problems then?"

"Well, we have to hope that our Governor, in his wisdoms, will appoint a director who understands this issue."

"Well, I'm certain our current Governor will always appoint great directors, but my concern is for Governors that may follow him in office. The other item in clarification is kind of a Catch-22, as I understand it. It requires that an applicant for apprenticeship have at least four years experience. How do you get experience without actually being on the job, and how do you get on the job without getting experience?"

"The director can determine what does and does not constitute that experience?"

"Well, can a contractor hire someone who does not have experience?" 101  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"Absolutely. They take 'em in everyday in entry level positions."

"As an electrical apprentice?"

"As long as the program is approved by the state, then they can come in without experience, or I should say, register with the state."

"Okay. Well, Mr. Speaker, to the Amendment."

"Proceed."

"I congratulate the Gentleman on the amount of work that he has put into this, but it still appears to have some gray areas. I think perhaps we need to take a real hard look at Amendment 3, and I would ask please for a Roll Call on this Amendment."

"Representative Young, to close."

"I'd ask for a favorable vote."

"The question is, 'Shall the Amendment pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. This is Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 443. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 97, 90... Everybody voted? On this question, 102 voting 'yes', 12 voting 'no', and the Amendment passes. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 443, a Bill for an Act concerning the regulation of electricians. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Giorgi."

"Mr. Speaker, I'll just take a minute to highlight the Bill. The Bill, what it does is it establishes license procedures, much like we've done for plumbers of Illinois and the roofers of Illinois. The enforcement of the Act lies in the director and the Department of Labor, and he is aided by a Board of Electrical Examiners, three licensed 102  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 master electricians, three electrical contractors, one electrical engineer, one certified inspector versed in the national electric code, one utility inspector and be able to determine what a master electrician is, journeyman is, residential man is and an apprentice is, and they will prescribe licensing requirements...examinations, fees, suspensions, revocation, reciprocity, safety standards, inspection, penalty provisions, grandfather clauses, sunsets and SO on. I'm sure you'll be proud of this Act when it's in the field and in force. And I urge everyone to join us in licensing electricians for the safety and welfare of the citizens of Illinois."

"Representative Black."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I simply rise in opposition to the Gentleman's Bill, and I can give you several reasons. But let me give you one practical reason. One practical reason is you're now creating a new bureaucracy in the Department of Labor. They'll have to go out, they being new employees in the Department of Labor, are gonna have to go out and inspect all the wiring jobs in the State of Illinois, because there's nothing in the Bill, as I read it, that says this can be done by the various code departments that now exist in all your municipalities. On another reason to oppose the Bill, you are totally preempting your municipality from regulating and licensing electrical contractors. That's why the Municipal League is in opposition to this Bill. Who knows better how to license and regulate an electrical contractor than the city or village council who knows them, who works with them and sees them? We're talking about villages of anywhere from 150 people to 3 or 4 million people here. You are totally taking them out of the ability to license and regulate electricians and electrical 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day counselors. On a more emotional level, if might. know, my father was an electrician for 50 years. I dare say there is no one in this State that he would need take a back seat to on his knowledge of and his practice of I June 26, 1991 You to the craft of being an electrician. I don't know how he managed to do it without the State of Illinois licensing him, regulating him, making him take a test. I don't know what's happened to this state and this country when we used to encourage people to learn a trade, to learn a craft and go out and work. Where did we take this turn that says you can't learn trade, you can't learn a craft, you can't practice the trade, unless government regulates you, licenses you and tests you? Enough is enough. Let people make a living and for crying out loud, let them do it on their own. They don't need any government help. This is a bad Bill, and it should be voted down." a

"Representative Giorgi, to close."

"Besides the personal interest of the Representative, I would like to state...make one clarifying statement: Home rule units can license electricians and contractors if they wish. In fact, since 1970, the powers of home rule units have never really been tested. But in this case, our law says that as long as they license electricians and contractors, and not in contradiction with state law, God bless them, license them all they want to. I urge the support of this Bill."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 443 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Novak, one minute to explain your vote. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 90...100 voting 'yes', 15 voting 'no', and Senate Bill 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 443, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1192, Representative Rice. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1192, a Bill for an Act to create the Illinois Consumer Credit Reporting Agencies Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Rice."

"Mr. Speaker, can we take it back to put an Amendment on that Bill, to Second Reading?"

"The Gentleman asks leave to return the Bill back to the Order of Second. Does he have leave? Hearing none, leave is granted. The Bill is on Second. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"This Bill's been read a second time previously. Floor Amendment #1."

"This Act will take a...for a technical Amendment. This Act takes effect January 1, 1992, because we want to get it back over into the Senate for Conference Committee."

"Any discussion on the Gentleman's Amendment? Representative Black?"

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I just have one question, and it's a question that I asked the other day of another Sponsor of a Bill. The Amendment merely changes the effective date. Now, does the Sponsor have an agreement with the Senate Sponsor that the Senate Sponsor won't concur with this Bill when it comes back over? Because in the absence of any agreement, we won't have a vehicle here. We'll have a Bill that the Senate Sponsor may say, 'Oh, I'll accept Amendment #1, all it does is change the effective date to January 1, 1992' and that's my only concern."

"Representative Rice."

"We have an agreement that it will...nothing...it will go 105  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 into the Conference Committee and this effective date is only a matter of using it as a vehicle to get it across."

"That's fine with me. If Representative Rice gives me his word, it's going to Conference, fine. Thank you."

"Representative Shaw. Alright, any further discussion? Hearing none, the question is... All those in favor of the Amendment say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Hultgren. Excuse me, Representative Hultgren."

"I would object to proceeding. This was on Third. It was brought back to Second and amended. I would object to proceeding with this today."

"Representative Rice wants this Bill to be heard. The Gentleman moves that this Bill be heard on the Order of Third Reading. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. The Motion...on the Motion for Immediate Consideration. Have all voted who wish? Representative Cowlishaw? Representative Cowlishaw?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just to explain my vote. Today, during the day, while we've been in Session, I've received three communications in the mail, all of them by Fax, from people in various parts of the state, one of them is a woman who lives in Chicago. They all say that the consumer reporting industry has not had an opportunity to comment on this Bill, and that until the industry has an opportunity to have something to say about it, they think we all ought to vote 'no'."

"Representative Parke, one minute to explain your vote." 106  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"I will just simply say that, quite frankly, this Bill, as amended, will go into Conference Committee, where the people from the retail... current such as Equifax will be talking with the Sponsors of this legislation, and there's...there will be a genuine attempt to work out the agreement with Representative Rice and Senator Emil Jones on this, and they are, quite frankly, in negotiation and are down here working on it. So this should go to a Conference Committee Report and should be passed."

"Representative...the Chair would like to remind, this is a Motion to consider. That's all it does; it doesn't pertain to the Bill. It's a Motion to consider whether we're going to have immediate consideration to vote 'yes' or 'no'. On this question, there are 89 voting 'yes' and 23 voting 'no', and the Motion carries. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1192, a Bill for an Act to create the Illinois Consumer Credit Reporting Agencies Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Rice."

"I ask to just...heard the discussion from Representative Parke. I ask that this Bill be considered at this time for an immediate vote."

"Any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1192 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Shirley Jones. Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 95 voting 'yes', 15 voting 'no', and Senate Bill 1192, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Is Representative Curran in the chamber? Senate Bill 1171. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 107  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"Senate Bill 1171, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Finance Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Curran."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have just gone... we had gone through about a half hour ago, a very lengthy explanation. These are all Agreed Bills from both sides of the aisle, from the State Government Administration Committee. I know of no opposition except my good friend, Representative McNamara, on one small part of this Bill, and I'll be glad to answer any questions. I ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"Any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1171 pass?' Representative Robert (Bob) Olson. Representative Olson." Olson, B.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A question of the Sponsor."

"Proceed." Olson, B.: "Representative Curran, how many Bills were added through the Amendment process? The Bills that were originally separate Bills?"

"When this..." Olson, B.: "How, how...in your Amendments awhile ago, how many total, separate Bills did we roll on to this one Bill?"

"How about 25 to 27? Yours is one of them." Olson, B.: "Okay. Hey, that's not bad. You said they were agreed. Had any of them been defeated anyplace in the process? They had all passed out of committee, had passed out of the House and went to the Senate?"

"Everything so far has been unanimous. The provisions of 1309, had already passed the House, which had your 710 on it, and the provisions of 1923 had also passed the House, none of those with any negative votes. The other Bills are Senate Bills, now going back...now going...passing the House, on this Bill, going back to the Senate for 108  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 73rd Legislative Day concurrence." Olson, B.: "The House Bills had stalled in the Senate?"

"Thirteen o-nine did, and 1923 did. That's correct." Olson, B.: "Okay."

"Thirteen o-nine had eight Democratic Sponsors and seven Republican Sponsors, your being one of the seven." Olson, B.: "Thank you."

"You're welcome."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1171 pass?' All those in favor vote'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 98 voting...97 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no'. Senate Bill 1171, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. I would like to announce that the change of votes for the Agreed Bill List will be cut off in five minutes. All those that want to change, please bring their slips up immediately. Five minutes. The Chair would also like to remind the Members that we're not moving these Bills very fast. This is the last day for Senate Bills. The deadline is midnight tonight. Be prepared at the rate we're going to stay here to midnight. Alright, back on the Order of Professional Regulations, Representative Mautino, Steczo, Hicks, Novak, Mc Pike, Balanoff. On that Order, Representative Mautino, 626. Representative Mautino in the chamber? Out of the record. Representative Steczo? Out of the record. Representative Hicks. Out of the record. Representative Novak. Novak. Representative Mc Pike. Representative Balanoff. Senate Bill 964, Representative Balanoff? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 964, a Bill for an Act to amend the Humane Care for Animals Act. Third Reading of the Bill." 109  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

"Representative Balanoff." June 26, 1991

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Senate Bill 964, as amended, would license dog trainers, amending the Animal Welfare and Humane Care of Animals Act. This is in response to absolutely cruel and unusual treatment of dogs by DOG Inc. in Elmhurst, where, for absolutely no reason, they were beating dogs in a training process and running dogs into a tree. Yesterday, we adopted Amendment #1 which would...which exempted units of government, non-profit organizations such as 4-H and the park districts and police agencies. These little kennel organizations, basically what it did, is it eliminated much opposition that you may have heard. We also adopted Amendment #3, which was the Draize eye...prohibit the Draize eye test, and we'd be happy, myself or...Margie Parcells on the Draize, we'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Representative Keane in the Chair. Representative Giglio."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I wasn't here last night, but I understand the Amendment, there was an Amendment put on to put the...to eliminate the Draize test which I understand is the only method we have of testing all these chemicals and cosmetics and everything that human beings use. I think there was some discussion, but I'd like the Members to know that this Amendment was put on there and therefore, I would ask for the defeat of this Bill, because it really doesn't intend to do what the Sponsor started out to do with his Bill from the start. The Amendment, with the Draize test is attached, and I think everybody knows about this. We debated it a number of times. That Bill was killed in committee, and it was put on last night, so I would ask for 110  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 a defeat of this Bill."

"Does anyone wish to speak in favor of the Bill? Representative Ropp? Representative Brunsvold? Representative Parcells?"

"Excuse me, Mr. Speaker. Did you say, does someone care to speak for the Bill?"

"Is there anyone to speak in favor of the Bill?"

"Yes. Well, I am in favor of the very Amendment that was mentioned. To be brief, you all heard about this last night; we had quite a discussion on it. The Draize is not the only test out there. There are over a 100 cosmetic companies right now who do not use the Draize test. They're still in business, and I would ask for your 'aye' vote, both on the underlying Bill and this Amendment."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye', all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Representative Hartke, to explain his vote. Have all voted who wish? Representative Balanoff, for what purpose do you rise?"

"Well, okay, maybe you can have Marg...recognize Margi instead of me, right now."

"Representative McAfee votes 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish?"

"Okay, what we'd like to do."

"Mr. Clerk..."

"Wait, can we get...if we were to be able to take this...get postponed...enough votes to get on Postponed Consideration and we will take off the...we will take off the part..."

"Mr. Clerk, take the record. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 20 voting 'aye', 78 voting 'no', 12 voting 'present', and this Bill, having failed to receive the Constitutional requirement, is hereby declared 111  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 dead. Representative Parcells, for what purpose do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, I was...had my light on. I think it is my Amendment that has hurt Representative Balanoff's Bill, and I had my light on to speak, if it's my Amendment..."

"You had explained your vote earlier, you had explained, you had spoken in debate, you were not noticed, you were not recognized..."

"I wanted to offer to take my Amendment off so that his Bill would not be killed..."

"That was a not a proper Motion at that time. The Bill... We were on a Roll Call, and the Bill has lost. Next Bill is Senate Bill 961. Ladies and Gentlemen, we only have a few hours left. In order to give everyone who has a Bill on this Calendar fair...treat them fairly, we will be dealing with Bills with one opponent and one proponent and moving along. Representative Novak, Senate Bill 961. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 961, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Novak."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. May I have leave of the Body to return it to Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment?"

"Is there leave? Leave's been... Representative Black. Has the Amendment been..."

"May I ask if it has been printed and distributed? We have no Amendment."

"Has the Amendment been...Mr. Clerk, has the Amendment been printed and distributed? The Amendment has not been printed and distributed. Take it out of the record. On Legalized Gambling, Second Reading, is Senate Bill 378, Representative Giorgi. Mr. Clerk, read the 112  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 73rd Legislative Day Bill."

"Senate Bill 378, a Bill for an Act to Amend the Open Meetings Act. Third Reading... Second... Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Giorgi."

"Mr. Speaker, this is Senate Bill 378, and this is the Bill that's going to attempt to regulate and license video games, under the auspices of the Lottery Control Board. There's such a proliferation of video games throughout the country and a lot of them are conducive to being used in this manner, that the State of Illinois felt it should avail themselves of this tax dollar that's available. It's conservatively estimated that within the next fiscal year or so, allowing for start-up time, that the annual take from this tax will be in the neighborhood of 200 million to 250 million dollars. The Lottery Control Board will license the manufacturers, the distributors, the terminal operators and the video lottery terminals and the... These machines will not dispense coin; they'll dispense tickets. The 5¢, 10¢ and 25¢ bets will be allowed to be made, up to $2. There'll be a $500 maximum win. There's a limit of video lottery terminals to each location of three. Multiple license or interchange on the license is prohibited. You have to be 21 years of age to play the game. Your application fee is in the neighborhood of $10,000. There's a board limit on licensing, and the most attractive aspect of the entire procedure is the complete audit trail that this provides and the complete monitoring that this new industry provides, in that the main terminal would be in the Springfield area and anytime that the machine is open, the coin box is open or the machine is open for maintenance or for any reason, it's noted on the computer, and this is a foolproof method of counting 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 dollars like we've proven the lottery account to be and I urge the support of this Bill, for the 250 million dollars that may...might be found in it."

"Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Black, for what purpose do you rise?"

"Well, I was going to be one of the opponents."

"Well, why don't you explain your vote?"

"I'll explain my vote. I mean, there were a lot of questions that we had about we don't know whether the community college training component is still in this Bill. I don't think it is, but we're not sure of that. We don't know if there is a limit, a loss limit, in the Bill. We just had a lot of questions, and I guess since we didn't get some of those questions answered, but we have a great deal of confidence in the Sponsor and, actually, I'm trying to stall for Representative Wennlund who knows more about this Bill than I do. We just might want to just continue to stall here and let Representative Giorgi answer a few questions, and I think we all know how important this Bill is to him, but a lot of questions over here. Just a lot of questions, and if Representative Wennlund can hear my voice, I just wish you were here right now."

"Representative Matijevich, maybe you could clarify this?"

"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to explain my vote for a second."

"Go ahead."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, as I said yesterday, there's video poker all over Illinois right today. It's going on all over Illinois right today, and 114  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 the fact is that we ought to be producing revenue, state revenue, as long as it is going on today. We have a large shortfall. We don't even know what our shortfall is in the budget. This can provide, as Representative Giorgi said, somewhere from 200 million dollars upward to 250 million dollars or more. This is a way to provide new revenue. It's already passed and is operating in three other states; Illinois ought to be the next. I think it's a way to produce revenue from things that are going on today, and I would urge an 'aye' vote."

"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 54 voting 'aye', 52 voting 'no' and 9 voting 'present', and this Bill... Representative Giorgi, for what purpose do you rise? Postpone Consideration? The Gentleman asks leave to put on Postponed Consideration. The Bill is now on Postponed Consideration. Senate Bill 1086, Representative Brunsvold. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1086, a Bill for an Act to amend the Riverboat Gambling Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Sieben and Ryder."

"Representative Sieben."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would move to withdraw, to withdraw Amendments 2 through 10, I believe were the ones filed under my name. I would withdraw those Amendments."

"Withdraw Amendments 2 through 10. Any further Amendments?" 115  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

June 26, 1991 "Floor Amendment #11, offered by Representative Ryder and Sieben."

"Representative Ryder."

"I would ask, with the leave of the floor, and the leave of the Speaker, to withdraw Amendments 11 through 20."

"The Gentleman asks leave to withdraw 11 through 20. Is there leave? Leave, and 11 through 20 are withdrawn."

"Which means you owe me about 25 minutes of time."

"Thank you. Any other Amendments? Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #21, offered by Representatives Brunsvold, Wennlund, McPike and Currie."

"Representative Brunsvold."

"Mr. Speaker, please withdraw Amendment #21."

"Withdraw Amendment #21. Amendment #21 is withdrawn. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment 22, offered by Representative Brunsvold, Wennlund, McPike and Currie."

"Representative Brunsvold."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #22, we've been working on for the last weeks, with the Governor's Office, Representative Wennlund, the Gaming Board, trying to come to some agreement, and we have, on the disclosure information, had a provisions from the Governor's office, who has rewritten it to his liking. From the Bill we debated in 832, we have removed the individuals from being under 21 and working at the gambling tables, so there's no more people 18 working at the gambling tables; egress - ingress provision has been removed. The cruise language is now out of there. The community colleges in teaching of gaming is out of the Bill, but still remains a private individuals, and that is 116  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day the Amendment as compared to 832, and June 26, 1991 I ask for the adoption."

"Representative Wennlund."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As Representative Brunsvold said, we've been working on this for several weeks. It has the approval of the Governor's Office and the Gaming Board. Everybody's on board. It makes some technical changes and a cleanup of the original Bill and it's, it has the support on this side, and we ask for the adoption of the Amendment."

"The question is, 'Shall the House adopt Amendment #22?' All in favor say 'aye', all opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. We'll going to cut off the change Calendar. I f anyone has any of those yellow sheets to bring up, bring them up tabulating. Senate Bill now. to We're going begin 1353, Representative Turner. We'll get back to your Bill on Third in a little bit. Representative Turner. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk, 1353."

"Senate Bill 1353, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act Third Reading of the to provide partial tuition waivers. Bill."

"Representative Turner."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Assembly. Senate Bill 1353 was introduced in the Senate by Senator Holmberg. It is an excellent Bill, and what it does, as many of you know, Illinois public universities, their pay benefits are well behind the national average, and this is a small benefit. This particular Bill is a small benefit that will help those who work in state 117  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 universities. What it does is these key points: First of all, it provides for 50/50 employee match on tuition costs. The Board of Higher Ed and University of Illinois are now supporting this Bill, in addition to the AFLCIO, the Illinois Federation of Teachers and AFSCME. It applies to... the tuition waiver applies to all university employees, including civil service, those with civil service titles. It has no impact on the General Revenue Fund, and, I repeat, there is no impact on GRF, the estimated cost is $800,000 and that is to be absorbed by the universities. The Board of Regents already has a similar policy, and this will make the program statewide. I move for the favorable adoption of Senate Bill 1353."

"Is there any opposition to this Bill? Representative Weaver."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. No, I'm not opposed. I rise in support of this Bill. It is an excellent recruiting tool and particularly in a year when we're looking at little or no salary increases for faculty. It may be just about the only benefit that they get out of this Session, so I very wholeheartedly endorse this Bill."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 94 voting 'aye', 17 voting 'no', 4 voting 'present', and Senate Bill 1353, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1299, Representative Weller. Representative Ewing, for what purpose do you rise? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1299, a Bill for an Act to establish and implement a cooperative work study program. Third 118  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Weller."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1299 provides for the Board of Higher Education to administer a grant program under which a cooperative work study program is established. The goal of this is to reduce students' reliance on loans and encourage them to seek permanent employment in the State of Illinois. This is a result of House Bill 2571, which was passed by the General Assembly and signed into law two years ago, which directed the Board of Higher Ed to come up with a program. This is their proposal. It's endorsed by the Board of Higher Education, Illinois Student Association. There's no opposition. I'd be happy to answer any questions and ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Does anyone stand in opposition? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 114 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', and Senate Bill 1299, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1190, Representative Marinaro. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1190, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Marinaro."

"Yes, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Senate Bill 1190 amends the School Code and removes the provision that ends the veteran's eligibility for scholarship assistance after the expiration of the prescribed 16-year period. This Bill has been changed for the last three or four 119  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Sessions that they've had where it came from...10 years, 12 years, 14 years, 16 years. I urge a favorable vote."

"Is there any opposition? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are lll voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present', and Senate Bill 1190, having received the required Constitutional Majority... Representative Black."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Evidently you didn't see my light, and it's too late now, but all we wanted was an inquiry of the Chair to make sure that none of the Floor Amendments had been adopted to this Bill."

"Mr. Clerk. No, none of the Floor Amendments..."

"Thank you.

"On this Bill, there are lll voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. Representative Kirkland votes 'aye', and this Bill, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Hello. Okay. Gentlemen, we're trying to move pretty fast. If you move your fingers a little quicker. Senate Bill 644... There's 114 'ayes', 114 voting 'present'. voting 'aye', none voting 'present', none voting 'no'. Senate Bill 1190, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Myron Olson." Olson, Μ.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. If I could have the attention of the House for just a moment, I'd like to introduce a guest, Senator Denny Byers from the Nebraska (Unicameral) Legislature, who is here visiting with us today and is a member of the NCSL team with Lee Daniels. I ask the Senator to say a few 120  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day Byers: words." "Thank you, Myron. to June 26, 1991 It's certainly a pleasure to be here. I know you're busy; I won't take up more than a minute of your time. I would like to obviously make sure that all of you are invited the Council of State Government's meeting in Omaha in July, and if you ever get out of here, we'd certainly like to have you as our guest. for having me."

Thank you Speaker Keane: "Senate Bill 644, Representative Harris. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 644, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning the presence at public universities of armed forces training programs. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Harris.

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 644 prohibits the public colleges and universities in the State of Illinois from barring ROTC or those types of organizations from their campuses, simply because ROTC complies with the rules and regulations of the federal government. The Bill passed the Senate without negative vote, 51 to nothing, and I ask for your support here in the House." a

"Does anyone stand in opposition? The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Representative Hoffman, for what purpose do you rise? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 106 voting 'aye', 2 voting 'no', 5 voting 'present', and Senate Bill 644, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Munizzi, we'll get back to you on 299. Representative Munizzi. We will come back to 299. We'll now go to the Order of Government Operations, 121  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Second Reading. On that Order of Business is...appears Senate Bill 424. Representative...Representative Parke, for what purpose do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was just starting to prepare for dinner. I was going to invite a few close personal friends, and I was wondering if the Speaker was planning on paying for dinner tonight and providing either pizza or chicken or anything like that, and I just sort of looking for some direction. Occasionally, when we work real late, we have that opportunity to have a little complimentary pizza or chicken or fillet, and I was just wondering what's going on."

"I would hold your dinner in abeyance, and we'll get back to you as soon as possible. Representative Pedersen." Pedersen, B.: "Mr. Speaker, I believe that Representative Parke was mistaken on the menu. I believe it's pork for dinner tonight."

"Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 424, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Anthony Young and Levin."

"Representative Young.

"Withdraw Amendment #1."

"Withdraw Amendment #1. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representatives Balanoff and Kubik."

"Representative Balanoff.

"Yes. Amendment #2 is similar to House Bill 760, and it would eliminate the Office of the Cook County Regional 122  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Superintendent of Schools at the end of his current term, and it would eliminate the office in 1995 and transfer the duties of that office to the State Board of Education, if there are any duties."

"Is there any discussion? Representative

Santiago. Santiago: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Once again, I rise in opposition to this Amendment. What this is going to do is create a nightmare for the State Board of Education. I would like to state once again that this is an unconstitutional Amendment. It's a violation of the rights of the individuals that elected the school superintendent, and I ask everyone here to vote 'no' on this Amendment."

"Representative Levin.

"Would the Gentleman yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"This is identical to the Bill that we passed out of here that I believe is on the Governor's desk now. It's the four year phaseout."

"This...well, first of all, it's not on the Governor's desk yet, because we haven't done a concurrence, but this is exactly the same as House Bill 760 which we passed out of here about three weeks ago that would eliminate the office of the Cook County Regional Superintendent of Schools."

"It does so at the end of his current term."

"It does so in August of 1995, at the end of his current term."

"Okay, so this is what we passed out of here?"

"That is correct."

"The question is, 'Shall the House adopt Amendment #2?' All those in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. 123  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Santiago."

"Representative Santiago.

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #3, what this Amendment does is makes...creates a 15-member board elected Board of Education in the school district of Chicago. The purpose of this, we have done, and we have come the last couple of years, trying to reform the educational system in the Chicago school system. We have gone around (sic - in) circles trying to find solutions to the problems of the Board of Education. We need a Board of Education that is responsible to the needs of the taxpayers, a Board of Education that will answer to all the people in the City of Chicago. Almost 40% of the revenue that is raised by the Board of Education come (sic - comes) from property tax owners. The property tax owners do not have an avenue to point out to the Board members that they are dissatisfied with their performances. What this does, it will create a 15-member Board of Education which is going to be elected by the people in the City of Chicago and the district will be drawn by the City Council. I move for favorable consideration of this Amendment."

"Is there anyone who stands in opposition? Representative Young. Young, A.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

"He indicates he will." Young, A.: "Representative, has this gone through the committee process at any point in time?"

"No, Sir." Young, A.: "Or in all the many numerous hearings we've had on Chicago school reform, both in the House and the Senate, in Springfield and in Chicago, has this issue been raised at 124  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day any of those hearings?" June 26, 1991

"This issue has been around this House for a number years. This is not a of new concept. What I'm trying to bring out forward is trying to also reform the School Board in Chicago..." the Young, A.: "So, I would take it the answer to my question then is no in terms of has this issue been raised with any of groups dealing with the Chicago public school system since we passed the new reform law that changed the way the Board of Elections (sic Education) is appointed."

"This issue, as I have stated before, has been around this Body. This idea has been floated around, and I think it's time to send a message the Chicago Board of Education that the Legislature means business, and what we're trying to do, system." we're two a to trying to reform the whole Young, A.: "To the Bill, Mr. Speaker if I may. I'd like to rise in opposition to this concept. We dramatically changed the Chicago school system years ago. The Board of Education right now is a board that is nominated through a commission that comes from local school council members. Those school council members are taxpayers; there is community input into that commission; the present board has been in office less than year; the system has just changed completely; now to put in an elected school board at this time, after we've studied that in the reform process, that idea was studied; it was rejected, I think this would be a horrible Bill for us to pass, particularly at this time in light of the fact that the new method for selecting members from the Chicago Board of Education has only been in effect for one year. I urge a 'no' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall the House adopt Amendment #3?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. 125  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day The voting is open. Representative Cowlishaw, your vote." June 26, 1991 to explain

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I stand in strong support of this Amendment. I think this is a wonderful idea and would really contribute to accountability. There are nearly 1,000 school districts in Illinois, and you could count on one hand the number where the members of the Board of Education are not elected. To have the Board of Education in Chicago elected would be a wonderful thing for the Chicago schools and a great thing for the schoolchildren of Chicago. This is a wonderful Amendment. I stand in support of it."

"Representative Davis, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. One who lives in Chicago, and whose children attend the Chicago public schools, I would like to say I think it's peculiar that we would put forth an Amendment that would disturb the process of electing school board members, when we just went through almost a two-year hassle of how to put those school board members in place. Now, it's very interesting that at this time that school reform...we're always being told, give it a chance to work. Give it a chance to work. This is part of school reform where we have a nominating commission, and the nominating commission interviews candidates, and the candidates are chosen by the mayor. The nominating commission picks people from each district or they represent different ethnic groups in the City of Chicago, and it seems to be working. That part seems to be working. It is amazing that you would want to change something that's working. I rise in opposition to this, and I think you're going to ruin an excellent Bill if you put this on there." 126  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day Speaker Keane: vote.." June 26, 1991 "Representative Ronan, one minute to explain your

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just urge my colleagues not from the Chicago area to give us a 'no' vote on this legislation. I understand elected school districts all over the state; it makes sense for most school districts. In the City of Chicago, we have a significant shortfall this year. Putting politics in the Chicago public school system is not going to make it a better system. I respect where my colleague's coming from, but at the same time, we've got a situation where our number one problem is a shortfall and putting together an election process for our school board isn't going to improve education one bit in Chicago. It's going to make it more costly; it's going to have the special interest groups involved in trying to control that process. It doesn't make any sense, and I urge my colleagues to vote 'no' on this bad concept."

"Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Amendment, there are 70 'ayes', 40 'nos', and the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Santiago."

"Representative Santiago."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If that one was good, this one is much better, but what I'm going to do, I'm going to withdraw Amendment #4. Thank you."

"Withdraw Amendment #4. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5, offered by Representative McCracken."

"Representative McCracken."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Amendment would prohibit the reinstitution of the Working Cash Fund for one year after its abolition. I move its adoption." 127  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991

"Is there any discussion? The question is, 'Shall Amendment #5 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', all opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and Amendment #5 is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #6, offered by Representative Giorgi."

"Representative Giorgi. Amendment #6. Representative Giorgi."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, about 15 years ago, a Bill was passed in this House to allow school districts the size of the Rockford School District 205 to revert to geograph district for the election of school board members. The Rockford School District 205 decided this year to elect members from geographic districts. The election will take place in November, but some of the members feel that inasmuch as it wasn't spelled out in the law, that they must reside in the district that they want to represent to be elected to. This Amendment is necessary so that school board members must run from the district which they intend to serve to be elected, so I urge the adoption of this Amendment."

"Is there any further discussion? The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', all opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #7, offered by Representative Giorgi."

"Representative Giorgi withdraws Amendment #7. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #8, offered by Representative McCracken."

"Representative McCracken withdraws Amendment #8. Any further Amendments? Withdraw 8." 128  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 534, Representative Levin. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 534, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third... Representative Levin."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I would move to table Committee Amendment #1."

"Gentleman moves to table Amendment...Committee Amendment #1. Any discussion? There being none, there leave to...table Amendment #1. All those in favor say 'aye', all opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. Amendment #1 is tabled. Any further... Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 837, Representative Trotter. Senate Bill 837, Representative Trotter. Out of the record. Senate Bill 838, Representative Bugielski. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 838, a Bill for an Act to amend the Counties Code. It's been read a second time previously. There are no Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Bugielski."

"Representative Bugielski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Amendment #1 is just a technical Amendment and makes...this Act takes effect upon becoming law. This Bill is going to 129  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 go back to the Senate. They are still negotiating, and it will most probably go to a Conference Committee."

"Gentleman moves the adoption of Amendment #1. All those in favor say 'aye', all opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it; Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Third Reading. Senate Bill 907. Senate Bill 907. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 907, a Bill for an Act to amend the Clerks of the Court Act. It's been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted earlier."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Bugielski."

"Representative Bugielski."

"Withdraw Amendment #2."

"Withdraw Amendment #2."

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Bugielski."

"Representative Bugielski."

"Withdraw 3."

"Withdraw 3. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, Bugielski."

"Representative Bugielski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Amendment #4 would become the Bill. It's just a vehicle Bill, and this is going to go back. They're in negotiations. They'll go back to a Conference Committee, and this is on the fees for circuit courts, and they are still in negotiations between the city and the county, and that's why I wish, you know, for it to go back and it'll go 130  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 into a Conference Committee."

"Representative Black."

"Yeah. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative, the...in the Amendments that you've withdrawn, this only affected Cook County."

"Yes, Sir."

"Is it your intent that this Bill be used as a vehicle for those fees of the circuit clerk only in Cook County?"

"Only again in Cook County."

"Thank you."

"Any further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the House adopt this Amendment?' All those in favor say 'aye', all opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 908, Representative Capparelli. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 908, a Bill for an Act to amend the Counties Code. It's been read a second time previously. There are no Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Capparelli."

"Representative Capparelli."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 908 is just a Bill for another vehicle. The Amendment adds an immediate effective date to the Bill. I would ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"Any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the House adopt Amendment #1?' All those in 131  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 favor say 'aye', all opposed, 'no'. Representative Black."

"Yeah. I just have one question of the Sponsor. There... You all have enough vehicles out there to rewrite the County Code 10 times. What... Do you have something in mind for this, or..."

"Mr. Black, I don't have anything in mind. Senator Luckowitz wanted it back there for a vehicle...trying to get it back for him, that's all."

"Okay. I would just simply...hang on here. Well, I feel certain, after a phone call, that there's a great need, and I'm sure a hidden meaning, behind this vehicle, but at some point, we want to draw the line on how many vehicle Bills you put out there on the Counties Code, so, I'd ask my colleagues on this side of the aisle to vote 'present', because there's all kinds of vehicles out there for the Counties Code. We don't think we'll inhibit you at all if we put 'present' votes up on this one."

"Alright. The question is, 'Shall the House adopt Amendment #1?' All those in favor say 'aye', all opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it and... Alright, vote 'aye' if you're for it, vote against it. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the Roll Call. On this Amendment, there are 71 'ayes', 18 'nos', 16 'present', and the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1404. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Senate Bill 1404, Representative Brunsvold. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1404, a Bill for an Act relating to the First 1991 Revisory Act. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Brunsvold." 132  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

"Representative Brunsvold."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and June 26, 1991 Gentlemen of the House. This is a Revisory Bill by LRB, the one they do every year. The Amendment is 367 pages long. I would move to suspend the printing requirements on Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1404."

"Representative Kirkland. Representative Kirkland? You have your light on. Representative Black, do you wish to speak on this Amendment? The Gentleman moves adoption of the Amendment. All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. We will now go to the...continue on to Government Operations, Third Reading, Senate Bill 326, Representative Hicks. Representative Hicks. Do you wish 326 to be called? Out of the record. We may not get back to these Bills. Senate Bill 441, Currie. Representative Currie. Mr. Clerk, read the...441. Yes. 441. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 441, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. May I have leave to return this Bill to Second Reading for purposes of an Amendment?"

"Lady asks leave to return the Bill to Second Reading for purposes of an Amendment. Is there leave? Leave has been granted. The Bill is on Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"The Bill has been read a second time previously. Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Churchill and Kulas."

"Mr. Speaker, Parliamentary Inquiry." 133  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"State your inquiry."

"I believe this Amendment is not germane to the underlying Bill."

"Hold on a second. While the Parliamentarian is checking that, I'd like to recognize Representative Pullen."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For a reminder announcement, tomorrow evening, Thursday, June 27th, there will be a reception sponsored by the Capitol Prayer Room Committee, at Bauer's, from 5:30 to 7:00 p.m., hoping that we'll be able to be there in the Archives Room, and the purpose of the reception is to fund the renovation of Hearing Room 122 (A) as the Capitol Prayer Room. The donation for this reception is $100 toward this worthy cause, and anybody who would be interested in attending is welcome to see me or Gary McCants for tickets. Thank you very much."

"Thank you. Representative Kubik withdraws Amendment #1. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Currie."

"Representative Currie, on Amendment #2."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This Amendment is one that would provide for notice to individuals who are part of the Community Care Program if changes in eligibility means they would be dropped from the program. The contents were proposed by the Citizen's Council on Women. This Bill is identical...or the Amendment would make this Bill identical to one we passed as a House Bill that ended up lost in the Senate, so I would urge your support and move the adoption of Amendment 2."

"Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the House adopt Amendment #2?' All 134  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 those in favor say 'aye', all opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 453, Representative Curran. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Representative Black, for what purpose do you rise?"

"Just an inquiry of the Chair. We think there's a third Amendment on the previous Bill that wasn't called."

"Mr. Clerk, was there a third Amendment? Representative Black, could you come talk to the Clerk?"

"Well, I believe it's Representative Ryder's Amendment."

"Well, could Representative Ryder come down and speak to the Clerk? We have a technical problem. In order to clear up this misunderstanding on Senate Bill 441, Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"On the Order of Second Reading, Floor Amendment #3 is being offered by Representative Ryder."

"Representative Ryder."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. At the request of the Sponsor of that Bill and because I believe we're working towards some negotiations on the very important item of assessment for the medical communities, I would not take the time of the House today and will withdraw Amendment #3, and also because I like the Clerk."

"Withdraw Amendment #3. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. We will now proceed to Senate Bill 453, Representative Curran. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 453, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Community College Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted previously." 135  73rd Legislative Day

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representative Curran."

"Representative Curran."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #2 becomes the Bill. It provides for the allocation formula for the community college system appropriation. It's identical to the formula Bill which came over to the House and Senate Bill 309. It was tabled. Without this formula Bill, Fiscal Year 1992 appropriations would have to be distributed based upon Fiscal Year 1991 rates and would not take changes in enrollments or EAVs into account. I move the adoption of the Amendment."

"Is there any discussion? Representative Weaver."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. We're in agreement with this Amendment, and we support its efforts to help such colleges as Belleville, Danville, DuPage, Elgin, Highland, Illinois Valley, Illinois Eastern, Lake County, Lakeland, Lewis and Clark, Lincolnland, Logan, McHenry, Moraine Valley, Morton, Oakland, Parkland, Prairie State, Rend Lake, Richland, Rock Valley, Southeastern and Rubonte College among others. Appreciate your 'yes' vote on this Amendment."

"Representative Williams.."

"Yes. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Okay. This says that it adjusts the rates to reflect changes in the recent equalized assessed valuation. In terms of dollars and cents, what will this Bill do to the community college network in the City of Chicago?"

"What this Bill would do, with this Amendment, Chicago 136  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day would get $53,362,399."

June 26, 1991 "How much are they receiving now?"

"Without this... How much are they receiving now?"

"Or, how much have they received under the old formula, based upon the present taxes?" amount of collections from the

"Well, do you want to know what they are receiving in FY '91 approp? Is that what... Is that your request?"

"I guess. It's been alluded to, that this particular Bill will have a net effect of a loss of about three and a half million dollars to the Chicago city colleges, and I wanted to know if, in fact, that's true."

"What this Bill would do, Chicago got 57,000,000 last year. With this Amendment, Chicago gets 53,000,000, round numbers."

"So, in essence, round numbers, Chicago would be losing somewhere close to $4,000,000. I have to stand in opposition to the Bill. I can't necessarily approve a formula that has a net effect of lost money to Chicago city colleges, and I would hope that those Members of the floor are listening would realize this net effect, and that it will be a loss of dollars and cents in area of three, maybe four million dollars, to the City of Chicago community college system, and I'd have to ask for a 'no' vote."

"Mr. Speaker, can we take this Bill out of the record momentarily, because I think there's some meetings going on in some other rooms which may alleviate some of our differences?"

"Take the Bill out of the record, Mr. Clerk. We'll go back to 326, Representative Hicks. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 326, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Third Reading of 137  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day Hicks: the Bill." June 26, 1991 "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 326, we just now have sat here and worked out agreements on this Bill that we want to be able to use this Bill and put it into a conference situation, so I would ask this House to pass Senate Bill 326 SO that Senator Woodyard then would nonconcur with House Amendment #1 to this Bill, so that we can send it to a Conference Committee to be used at a later date for the Department of Mines and Minerals. We have just now worked out the agreement which is why I took it out of the record a while ago, so there'd be no subsidy language on this Bill once we've finished with it."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 90...104 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present', and Senate Bill 326, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 502, Representative Hasara. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 502, a Bill for an Act to create the Health Care Decision Central Registry Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Hasara."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 502 would create a living will registry. There has been a lot of interest expressed in the Bill. There are a lot of issues to work out, and after discussing what to do with the Bill, at this time with Representative Dunn, the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, we feel that it would be a good idea to move this Bill so that it can go into conference and 138  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 have hearings held over the summer, so I would ask for its approval at this time."

"Representative Black."

"I just have one question of the Sponsor. I was under the impression this Bill was not going to be called, be committed to Interim Study so you could have those studies, because there seems to be a great deal of dispute between the two agencies as to where this Bill should go, or who's going to have responsibility for this Bill."

"There are a number of issues, not just the agencies', and there is no intention to move it, but we would like to get it into conference so that we could deal with it possibly in Veto Session, if we get all the issues worked out."

"Okay."

"We can't do that if we put it on Interim Study."

"Alright."

"Representative Dunn."

"I rise in support of the Lady's Motion for passage of this legislation. She is exactly right. We need this Bill in Conference Committee posture, so we can continue to work on this issue. A lot of questions have been addressed; a number of questions remain. She has, in the past, done an outstanding job on other legislation which we've worked on over the summer, and I hope we could get this in Conference Committee posture, continue to work on this subject matter, and I think we could come back in the fall or whenever we reach an agreement and present legislation which would be sound policy for the State of Illinois, and that's the best way to proceed. So I'd urge everyone to put up a green vote on the board for this Bill."

"Representative Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in opposition to this 139  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Bill. In the Judiciary Committee, there was a substantial number of...were a substantial number of members of the committee who agreed that this Bill should go back to its original posture, whereby the Secretary of State handles these records and not...and not the Department of Public Health. The Department of Public Health is against the Bill, and the Sponsor had sufficient time to make the changes to effectuate this. I would ask that all Members...I would ask that this be defeated."

"Representative Mautino."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Lady yield? Representative Hasara, where are living wills recorded now?"

"Normally, Representative, they are not recorded anywhere."

"That's exactly correct."

"Right."

"That's why individuals within the corporate business structure and their family setting establish living wills, so they are not recorded anywhere. Your legislation will make them basically public record, will it not?"

"If they wish to register them. There will be no mandatory requirement. The reason for the legislation, Representative, is that if you would like to have your will registered, you could do that so that...let's say you were in St. Louis, and were in a terrible accident, the hospital then could call the registry to, in fact, see if you had one on file. There would be no reason that you would have to file it. I might add, too, I agree with everything Representative Lang said. There's... There're a lot of questions, but with the permission of the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, we would like to be able to address some of these, so that it could be brought up in Veto 140  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Session, if we're ready to. It is certainly not my intention to move the Bill until all the problems are worked out. I might also add, the Senate Sponsor did try several times to get all the parties together, and was just unable to get a meeting set up, and that's why we were not able to get it agreed on now, so we'd like to put it into conference. Again, there's no intention to move it during this Session."

"Well, there's more to medical provisions in a living will than the right of individuals to either turn on or turn off or...technical equipment et cetera. Living wills cover a very wide range, including assets, et cetera."

"No. I think you're thinking of durable power of attorney."

"No, I know what I'm thinking of."

"Okay."

"Thank you for the comment."

"Any further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Laurino, 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 22...21 voting...23...take the record, please. There are 23 voting 'aye', 69 voting 'no', and the Amendment... The Bill fails. Senate Bill 763, Representative McPike. Representative Saltsman, do you want to handle this Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 763, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Development Finance Authority Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Saltsman."

"Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill modifies several sections of the Illinois Development Finance 141  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Authority Act, and I'd like for passage of the Bill."

"Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 109 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and none voting 'present', and House Bill... Senate Bill 763... On this Bill there are 108 voting 'aye' none voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', and Senate Bill 763, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 784, Representative Burke. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 784, a Bill for an Act to create the Cigarette Health Warning Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Burke."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker. This Bill simply creates the Cigarette Health Warning Act. It requires that any person selling cigarettes at retail in all cigarette machines to display a sign warning of the dangers of cigarette smoking to pregnant women. I ask for your favorable Roll Call."

"Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 99 voting...101 voting 'aye', 6 voting 'no', 4 voting 'present', and Senate Bill 784, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 843, Representative Capparelli. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 843, a Bill for an Act to amend the Counties Code. Third Reading of the Bill." 142  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 73rd Legislative Day

"Representative Capparelli."

"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to move this Bill back to Second Reading for the purpose of an Amendment."

"Gentleman asks leave to move the Bill to Second Reading for purposes of an Amendment. Is there leave? All in favor say 'aye', all opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Bill is on Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"On the Order of Second Reading, Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representative Capparelli."

"Representative Capparelli."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment 2 deletes all the substantive language of the Bill and makes a technical change to a different section, hence making this Bill one more vehicle."

"Representative Black. Representative Black, do you wish to... Representative Homer."

"Will the Gentleman yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Is it your understanding that Amendment 2 makes the Bill a shell Bill? The... There's some question by staff as to whether this Amendment accomplishes that purpose. Would you be... Would you be willing to take it out of the record momentarily so we can look at it? Thank you."

"Take it out of the record."

"Out of the record. Senate Bill 891, Representative Bugielski. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 891, a Bill for an Act to amend the Counties Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Bugielski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Senate Bill 891 is the... for the Recorder of Deeds in the Torrens Department for the increase of fees that they have 143  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 asked for, and for Mr. ...for Representative Black's information, this is for only counties of the third class, even though I feel that Cook County is a first class county, we are classified as a third class county, so it only pertains to Cook County, and I ask for the passage."

"Any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes'... And voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 70 voting 'aye', 38 voting 'no', 7 voting 'present', and this Bill, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1093, Representative Ronan. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1093, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Ronan."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have an Amendment. It's an Agreed Amendment that I'd like to put on the Bill, so I'd like the Bill brought back to Second Reading."

"Gentleman asks leave to return the Bill to the Order of Second Reading. All those in favor say 'aye', all opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Bill is on Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"On the Order of Second Reading, Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representatives Ronan and Hensel."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #2 is a concern. This is a Bill concerning the Secretary of State's Office and the release of lists to individuals and corporations in the State of Illinois. There was some concerns from the insurance industry that there'd be exemptions to this Act, so that we clarified it, the Secretary of State's Office is going to do it by rule and regulation. The insurance 144  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 industry asked that it be done by statute. This is the clarification that they brought to the Secretary of State's Office, so I move for the adoption of House Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1093."

"The Gentleman moves the adoption of Amendment #2. Any discussion? The question is, 'Shall the House adopt Amendment #2?' All those in favor say 'aye', all opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it; Amendment #2 has been adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading."

"Laurino in the Chair. Senate Bill 1167, Representative Keane. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. Representative Ronan, for what reason do you arise?"

"Mr. Speaker, I move for immediate consideration for Senate Bill 1093. I brought it back for an Amendment. I'd like to move the Bill forward unless someone can explain to me why we have a problem."

"Representative Ronan will take...that Bill's out of the record, and we'll get back to it. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1167, a Bill for an Act to amend the Uniform Code of Corrections. Correction, that's a Bill for an Act to amend the Uniform Commercial Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Keane."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1167 is the agreement Bill between the banks and the retail merchants and other merchants regarding the cost for bounced checks. There's a... The Bill originally came over here with 7.50 for cost between the commercial account and the bank, and the Amendment here changes it to 4.50. It was an agreement between both parties. I'd be happy to answer any questions 145  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 and move for the passage of the Bill."

"Any discussion? Representative Hartke."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Yesterday we put Amendment #2 on, and if we remember the discussion then, I indicated that although there was an agreement between the banks in the State of Illinois and the Illinois Retail Merchants' Association, I continued then, and I still continue today, to receive phone calls and communication on that...that many local merchants in your home town are opposed to this piece of legislation, so, I would alert Members to take a good look at this, and make a decision on whose side they want to come down on on this piece of legislation. I'm opposed."

"Further discussion? Representative Parke."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Again, I want to point out that this is an agreement, not only between the Illinois Bankers' Association,. but also the Illinois Retail Merchants' Association. Know when an agreement is reached, not everybody is going to be satisfied with that agreement, but in addition to those two groups, the New Car-Truck Dealers Association, Petroleum Marketers, the Restaurant Association, the Hotel and Motel Association have all come out in agreement with this compromise. I think that it is beholding on us to work with the people that are involved in this legislation, and pass this Bill that has been compromised and worked out, because the alternative is not very attractive for this Body, and I would ask that we pass this Bill."

"Further discussion? Representative Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. I agree with the previous speaker. This is a good compromise, a good Bill. It protects all parties, and parties who have 146  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 been violently fighting this Bill with each other, have now come together and come to an agreement. It's a fair Bill. Some who have been complaining about the $25 charge from the merchant to the writer of the check, I remind you that if someone writes a bad check, they ought to be made to pay for it. The merchant has a lot of expense in redepositing that check, chasing down that person. They should be entitled to an appropriate fee. Vote 'aye'."

"Representative Granberg."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1167 is a result of an agreement between the Retail Merchants, the New Car-Truck Dealers, the Petroleum Marketers and others. This is an accumulation of those discussions that were made in good faith. Those discussions were made in good faith; that agreement was reached in good faith. Illinois is the only state in this country that prohibits banks from recovering costs for processing bad checks. This is a fair agreement. If the parties reached a fair agreement, we should make sure that we honor that agreement. They did it in good faith, and we should be able to follow them up and make sure that agreement is complied to, and I would urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Sieben."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also rise in support of this Amendment, as the previous speakers have indicated, an agreement has been reached here between the banks, the Retail Merchants, the Petroleum Marketers Association, the Restaurant Association, the Hotel and Motel Association, the people that are a in position to receive a bad check from a patron of their establishment. It simply allows that retail merchant the opportunity to collect a reasonable fee for reprocessing that check. It also allows 147  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 the bank to recoup a reasonable amount of money, $4.50, to cover the cost of that transaction of reprocessing that check. It has been agreed to by all parties. I think we need to honor that agreed Bill process system that's worked here. All parties are in agreement, and I would urge an 'aye' vote on 1167."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1167 pass?' All those in favor will indicate by voting 'aye', those opposed, 'nay'. The board is open. Press your own switches. Representative McGann, to explain his vote. You have one minute, Sir."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Members of the Assembly, in a possibility of a conflict of interest, I will vote my conscience, and I vote 'aye'."

"Representative Homer, to explain your vote. You have one minute."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I understand that the principals have signed off on the Bill. Unfortunately, as is often the case here, one principal party, that being the consumer, the customer, had no input, was not at the table, and are going to incur a 250% char...increase in the maximum allowable charge that they can incur as a result of this Bill. I think that's unfortunate. We see that happen time and again here. I cannot in good conscience support the Bill until the Amendment is on this Bill that rolls back that $25 fee to something more reasonable. I think it's unfortunate that it was not done, and I'm voting 'present'."

"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. This Bill...Representative Dunn, 'aye'. This Bill, having...Representative Dunn, 'aye'. Representative Ryder, 'aye'. This Bill, having received 87 'aye', 19 148  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 'nay', and 8 voting 'present', having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1225, Representative DeJaegher. Excuse me, Representative. That Bill is out of the record. Senate Bill 1455, Representative Madigan. Representative Lang. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1455, a Bill for an Act to amend the General Assembly Operations Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Lang."

"Mr. Speaker, inquiry of the Clerk. Is Amendment #1 on the Bill?"

"Amendment #1 was adopted yesterday."

"Thank you."

"Representative Keane in the Chair."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is a shell Bill that deals with the General Assembly Operations Act. The point is to put it into a conference. The title is wrong; we discussed that yesterday. It deals with the General Assembly Operations Act, not the Emergency Phone System Act. I think there's agreement on both sides, and I ask passage of Senate Bill 1455."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. On this Bill, there are 115 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and none voting 'present', and Senate Bill 1455, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Ladies and Gentlemen, just a quick announcement. We have 146 Bills presently alive on the Calendar. We would like to adjourn at a reasonable hour...7:30 or 8:00. There are many Bills on the Calendar that the world has long done without, and could long do without in the future. However, so what we're going to do 149  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 is we are going to ask you if there is a vehicle out there that you can put your favorite Amendment on, do so, let your Bill go down, and only call the Bills if they're of critical importance, and you can put your Bill on Interim Study. You can get a sheet, a sign sheet for that from the Clerk, and we would like to move through the more important Bills, and we'll begin in just a second to do that. Senate Bill 214. Representative Hicks, on Senate Bill 214. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 214, a Bill for an Act to amend the Airport Authorities Act. This Bill has been read a second time previously. There are no Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

Clerk Leone "Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Hicks."

"Representative Hicks."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 provides for the appointment of commissioners jointly by the mayors of municipalities with populations over 5,000 which are located outside of DuPage County. The original Bill provided for the appointment of...by the County Board Chairman...makes several technical changes. I believe it's agreed to by both sides of the aisle, and I ask for adoption."

"Any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the House adopt this Amendment #1?' All in favor say 'aye', all opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Hicks and Parcells are the Sponsors."

"Representative Hicks."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 adds an Amendment that...to the 150  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 Code of Civil Procedure which allows for quick-take acquisition of land from the Palwaukee Airport by Wheeling and Prospect Heights. I know of no opposition to the Bill...to the Amendment. I ask for adoption of Amendment #2."

"Any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the House adopt Amendment #2?' All those in favor say 'aye', all opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Gentleman asks leave to have the Bill heard...immediate consideration... Keane. We'll leave that Bill on Third, go to House...or Senate Bill 427, Representative... Senate Bill 427. Representative Weller. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 427, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. This Bill has been read a second time previously. There are no Committee or Floor Amendments."

"Representative Weller, do you..."

"Should be Amendment #1, Mr. Speaker, that was filed yesterday. Floor Amendment #1."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Weller."

"Representative Weller."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment #1 addresses some concerns and takes care of the concerns of the Capital Development Board and Illinois Department of Transportation. The Amendment is agreed to by all parties. There's no opposition. I've explained it to the committee chairman, sees no problems and I ask for its adoption."

"Gentleman moves the adoption of Amendment #1. All those in favor say 'aye', all opposed, 'no'. The 151  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 5... Representative Weller, we're going to come back to it later. Senate Bill 534. Representative Levin. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 534, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Levin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 534 simply clarifies the procedures for appeal with respect to decisions of the Chicago Zoning Board of Appeals by defining parties of record. For purpose of appeal, as meaning the applicant, and provides that any individuals who have participated who are not the applicant may intervene in the appeal. There's no opposition to this Bill, and it only affects the City of Chicago and ask for your support."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 112 voting 'aye' and none voting 'no', none voting 'present', and Senate Bill 534, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 624...sorry, Senate Bill 628. Representative Manny Hoffman. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 628, a Bill for an Act to amend the Emergency Medical Services Systems Act. Has been read a second time previously."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"There are no Committee or Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 152  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"Senate Bill 628, a Bill for an Act to amend the Emergency Medical Services Systems Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Manny Hoffman." Hoffman, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill will require dispatchers of ambulances to advise a person making a telephone request for services, the estimated time of arrival when it is estimated that response will take more than five minutes. This expressly limits the Bill to only ambulances providing basic life support services and not to ambulance providing the high level of life support services for care. It's an important Bill. Many people are faced with a problem of not knowing when the ambulance will arrive. And I ask for a 'yes' vote."

"Any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. Hicks, 'aye'. On this Bill, there are 110 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', 2 voting 'present', and Senate Bill 628, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 728. Representative McAfee. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 728, a Bill for an Act to amend the Trust and Trustees Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative McAfee."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 728, as amended yesterday, becomes a vehicle Bill for the Prudent Investors Rule. This is to be worked out in Conference Committee as it relates to the Chicago Bar Association, Illinois State Bar and the 153  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 Corporate Fiduciaries."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 109 voting 'aye', none 'no', none voting 'present', and Senate Bill 728, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1227. Let the record show that Representative Stepan would have liked to have voted 'aye' on the last Bill, 728. We're on 1227, Mr. Clerk. Representative White. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1227, a Bill for an Act to amend the Controlled Substances and Cannabis Nuisance Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative White."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill will...is designed to help landlords to be held, whole harmless in case cannabis or drugs are found on their property. The state's attorney would move in and be involved in the eviction of a person, rather than the landlord. I move for the passage of this Bill."

"Any discussion? Being none, the question is 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 113 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present', and Senate Bill 1227, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1310. Representative Balthis. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1310, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Third Reading of the Bill. 154  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Representative Balthis."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1310, as amended, is a Bill presented by the Insurance Department to clean up some areas in statute and also to make things better for the consumer. Basic point in there is the way they calculate investments to limit...restrict the amount of junk bonds that an insurance can have in their portfolio. There are changes in removing a cap. The mandatory placing of a cap when a hearing...a loser of a hearing, the changing of ...cancellation on towtrucks and two other things of the law. As I understand it, there's no opposition. I'd ask for a favorable vote."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 107 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present', and Senate Bill 1310, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1404. Representative Brunsvold. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1404, a Bill for an Act relating to the Illinois 1991 Revisory Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Brunsvold."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a revisory Bill that makes no substantive change, and I would ask for the passage of Senate Bill 1404."

"Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. 155  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 110 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present', and Senate Bill 1404, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1471. Representative Shirley Jones. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1471, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Aeronautics Act. Second Reading of the Bill. This Bill's been read a second time previously."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Deuchler."

"Representative Deuchler."

"Mr. Speaker, I move to table Amendment 1."

"The Lady withdraws Amendment #1. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representatives Shirley Jones and Shaw."

"Representative Jones." Jones, S.: "Mr. Speaker, Amendment #2 amends... The department shall not expand any funds appropriated or made available by any state for the planning. I ask for the adoption of this Amendment."

"Representative Black."

"Why, I tell you, Mr. Speaker, that explanation just leaves me at a loss for words. I didn't understand one word the Sponsor said. But, I would like to..." Jones, S.: "This is a shell Amendment, Mr. ..."

"Okay, I understand it's a shell Bill..." Jones, S.: "Would you like for me to read the whole Amendment?"

"No, I'll tell you what I'd like. I tell you what I'd like. I know it's a shell Bill, but we'd like to have some idea of what your intent might be with this Bill. I mean, there's an awful lot of airport plans floating around out 156  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 there, and we'd just like to know what your intent is on this Bill. Third airport? Second airport? Lake Michigan airport? We'd just like to have some idea." Jones, S.: "Representative Black, the Bill is to... it's attempt to be amended over in the Senate by Representative Emil Jones."

"Well, thank you very much, Representative." Jones, S.: "Deuchler, I think, did an Amendment on this. She withdrew the Amendment?"

"Mr. Speaker."

"Representative Black."

"Mr. Speaker, if she'd take this Bill out of the record we..." Jones, S.: "I'm not gonna take the Bill out of the record."

"Take the Bill out of the record." Jones, S.: "I'm not gonna take the Bill out of the record."

"The Sponsor doesn't want to take the Bill out of the record." Jones, S.: "I would like for this Bill to be called."

"Ladies and Gentlemen. There'll be a meeting at Crossed Swords in the Well in five minutes. The Lady does not wish to remove her Bill from the record."

"Well, it's my understanding there was supposed to be some kind of an agreed Amendment 3."

"Why don't we just hold on. It seems like that's being explained."

"Okay."

"We will come right back to this. We'll come right back to it. Representative Jones." Jones, S.: "I move for the adoption of Amendment #2, please."

"The Lady moves adoption of Amendment #2. We'll take it out of the record. We'll come right back. Senate Bill 838. Representative Bugielski. Mr. Clerk, read the 157  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 73rd Legislative Day Bill."

"Senate Bill 838, a Bill for an Act to amend the Counties Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Bugielski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House...Senate Bill 838 is a vehicle Bill that will go to Conference Committee. This is for Cook County. They are negotiating now on different fee increases, and I ask for your favorable Roll Call."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 79 voting 'aye', 22 voting 'no', 13 'present', and Senate Bill 838, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 907. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 907, a Bill for an Act to amend the Clerks of Court Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Bugielski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Senate Bill 907, again, this is a Bill that we...it's gonna go back into the Senate, and it will go into a Conference Committee. This is for different...various agencies in Cook County, and they are negotiating at the present time, and we ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Question is, 'shall this Bill pass?' All those in... Representative Lang?"

"Thank you. I just want to confirm that Amendment #4 was adopted."

"Amendment #4 was adopted. Thank you."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is 158  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 65...64 voting 'aye', 41 'no', 5 voting 'present', and Senate Bill 907, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 837, Representative Trotter. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 837, a Bill for an Act to create the Local Government Health Care Fund. Second Reading. This Bill's been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representatives Churchill and Kubik."

"Representative Kubik."

"Withdraw."

"Withdraw Amendment #2. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Trotter."

"Representative Trotter."

"I want to table Amendment #3."

"Withdraw Amendment #3. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representatives Churchill and Kubik."

"Representative Kubik."

"Withdraw Amendment #4."

"Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5, offered by Representative Balthis."

"Representative Balthis."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Amendment was meant to be in addition to Senate Amendment 159  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 4, but it is an Amendment that directs our attention to mandates, and I withdraw that Amendment."

"The Gentleman moves the adoption of Amendment #5. Is there any discussion? Representative Trotter, if you wish to talk, push your light button. Representative Trotter."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I'd like to question the germaneness of Amendments #6 and 5."

"The Gentleman questions the germaneness of... The Gentleman... Did you question the germaneness of 6 or of 5?"

"Five."

"Gentleman questions the germaneness of Amendment #5. Representative Balthis, did you move to withdraw Amendment #5? Did you move to withdraw... Withdraw Amendment #5. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #6, offered by Representative Trotter."

"Representative Trotter."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #6 takes the Bill back to the original language of creating the Local Government Health Care Trust Fund. At this particular time, the Illinois Department of Public Aid and the county hospital are working on an agreement and would like to have this Bill used as a vehicle in Conference Committee."

"Any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the House adopt Amendment #6?' All those in favor say 'aye', all opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and Amendment #6 is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. We will now go back to Senate Bill 1471. I'm sorry, we have moved Senate Bill 837, moved to Third Reading. Now, Senate Bill... Senate Bill 1471. 160  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Representative Trotter, for what purpose do you rise?"

"For Immediate Consideration of House Bill 837."

"The Bill has been moved to Third Reading and we'll come back to you after we review the Amendments. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill, 1471."

"Senate Bill 1471, this has been read a second time previously. We're on Amendment #2, offered by Representatives Shirley Jones and Shaw."

"Representative Jones." Jones, S.: "Amendment #2: 'The Department shall not expand any bonds appropriated or made available by the state for the planning, construction, development, improvement, operation and maintenance of air navigation facilities within the state upon any project which is not included in the State Airport Plan, or in the State Airways System as prepared or revised, from time to time, by the Department or for any work upon any such project that is not constructed for and constructed or developed under the supervision or direction of the Department or another such other department agency, officer, or employee of this state designated by, as the Department may designate for that such purpose.' I move for adoption of this Amendment."

"Representative Black. Representative Black, did you want to talk? Okay. The question is, 'Shall the House adopt Amendment #2?' All those in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and Amendment #2 is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representatives Wojcik and Parke."

"Representative Wojcik."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Amendment #3 authorizes the Village of Schaumburg to create an Airport Authority. Schaumburg would still be required to abide by 161  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 all requirements currently set forth for creating an Airport Authority including receiving front door referendum approval prior to levying any tax. I ask for its favorable passage."

"The Lady has moved adoption of Amendment #3. Is there any discussion? There being none...Representative Black."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I don't wish to comment on the Amendment. I just simply would like to apologize to the Representative. It was not my intent to try and take over her Bill. My remarks were intended that I couldn't hear her earlier and in the confusion that sometimes exists on the floor, I had people yelling in my ear that we had a third Amendment that was agreed-to. Si I meant...certainly, I meant no disrespect to the Sponsor of this Bill and I appreciate her and staff letting this Amendment go on and trying to accommodate our request. Representative, I hope you understand that I meant no disrespect to you whatsoever, and I hope you don't take it that way."

"Representative Jones." Jones, S.: "Representative Black, I accept your apology, and I know the confusion that we do have sometimes in this House, and I do adopt your Amendment ... Wojcik. I urge an 'aye' vote on this."

"Question is, 'Shall the House adopt Amendment #3?' All those in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. Amendment #3 is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. We will come back after the Parliamentarian has reviewed your Amendments. Senate Bill 837. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. On Third Reading." 162  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991

"Senate Bill 837, a Bill for an Act to create the Local Government Health Care Fund. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Trotter."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Senate Bill 837 creates the Local Government Health Care Trust Fund, which is a fund created in the State Treasury, and we discussed this Bill many, many times on the floor and I ask for its quick passage."

"Representative Ryder."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to ask some questions, if I may."

"Yes, you may."

"Representative, is it your intention for this Bill to go to conference?

"Yes."

"Has the Bill, as currently drafted, is there a fiscal impact now?"

"No, there is not."

"Thank you, Representative."

"You're welcome."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting's open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 110 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', 5 voting 'present', and Senate Bill 837, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1427. One-four-two-seven, Representative Peterson. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1427, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Low-Level Radio Active Waste Management Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments." 163  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Homer."

"Representative Homer."

"Ask to withdraw."

"Withdraw Amendment #1. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative W. Peterson."

"Representative Peterson." Peterson, W.: "Mr. Speaker, withdraw Amendment 2."

"Withdraw Amendment #2. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representatives W. Peterson and Kulas."

"Representative Peterson." Peterson, W.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment 3 extends the fees payable to the Department of Nuclear Safety by Commonwealth Edison and Illinois Power at a rate of 1.8 million per nuclear reactor for Fiscal Year 1992. It continues the fee at a rate of $340,000 per reactor for Fiscal Year '93 through Fiscal Year '96 for the purposes of completing the low-level radioactive waste facility at Martinsville and for the cost of the Seymour-Simon hearings. This is an agreed Amendment between the department and Commonwealth Edison and Illinois Power. I ask for adoption of Amendment 3."

"Representative Weaver."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"You indicated in your explanation that this is for the low-level nuclear waste site at Martinsville. Are you aware that site has not been designated yet?" Peterson, W.: "That's correct, but they do want the fees available in case of the designation." 164  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 73rd Legislative Day

"To your knowledge, is any of this fee money intended for purchase of property for this facility?" Peterson, W.: "Representative, this Bill is not an appropriation Bill, nor does it specify, you know, where the money would be appropriated, but it is my understanding that land acquisition would be part of the use of the funds that are generated by the reactor fees."

"Wherever the site is determined to go." Peterson, W.: "Correct."

"Thank you."

"Any further discussion? The question is, 'Shall the House adopt Amendment #3?' All those in favor say 'aye', all opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it and Amendment #3 is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Homer."

"Representative Homer."

"Please withdraw the Amendment. Withdraw the Amendment."

"Withdraw Amendment #4. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. We'll hold the Bill on Third for a minute. Senate Bill 1086. Representative Brunsvold. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1086, a Bill for an Act to amend the Riverboat Gambling Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Brunsvold."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. This Bill now is in the form of Amendment #22 as was described by Representative Wennlund and myself and would ask for the passage of Senate Bill 1086."

"Representative Wennlund."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Representative Brunsvold's correct. This is the version that's been 165  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 accepted by the Governor and also by the Gaming Board, and we move for its successful passage. Thank you."

"Representative Balanoff."

"I'd just like an explanation of what it does. Tell me what it does.

"You want everything? The Freedom Information... It has a lot of explanations on the Freedom of Information Act and what the Gaming Board shall release to the press and to interested citizens. It does some cleanup language for the Gaming Board as far as, let me get my notes here, as far as who should be on the gaming boats; if you can have 18-year-olds deal or not, and they can't. We removed that provision, as we described before. So, those are the provisions the Gaming Board has met, so."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 72 voting 'aye', 38 voting 'no', 3 voting 'present', and Senate Bill 1086, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 534. Representative Levin. Representative Levin. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 534, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Do you wish this Bill called? Okay, thank you. Out of the record. Senate Bill 908. Representative Capparelli. Representative Capparelli? Has this Bill been passed? Okay, hold on a second. Representative Cronin, for what purpose do you rise?"

"Yes, just for the record, I wanted to note that with regard to Senate Bill 1086, although I was a 'yes' vote, I would like the record to reflect that I really intended to 166  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day vote 'no'."

June 26, 1991 I am "Senate Bill 843, I'm sorry, 908. Out of the record. Senate Bill 908. Representative Capparelli. told by the Clerk that it has not passed Third Reading. Alright. You want the Bill read?"

"Yeah, well, thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Senate Sponsor..."

"One second."

"Yeah."

"Read the Bill." "Senate Bill 908, a Bill for an Act to amend the Counties Code.

Third Reading of the Bill." "Representative Capparelli."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is ano another vehicle Bill for the county. The Sponsor in the Senate would like to have it there to put in Conference Committee. I would like a favorable Roll Call."

"Representative Black." Speaker. I

"Thank you very much, Mr. don't want to belabor the point, but this has to be the fifteenth County Code vehicle and heaven knows what they might do with Lake Michigan. Save the lake. Vote 'no'."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 60 voting 'aye', 46 voting 'no', voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 843. Representative Capparelli. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

7 Clerk O'Brien: "Senate Bill 843, a Bill for an Act to amend the Third Reading of the Bill." Counties Code. 167  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 73rd Legislative Day

"Representative Capparelli."

"Thank you, where is this Bill on Second or Third Reading?"

"The Bill is on Third Reading."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, once again, it's another vehicle for the Senate. I'd like to have a favorable Roll Call. There's nothing in this Bill, no substantive language."

"Representative Black."

"Yeah, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I... Representative, do you own a used car lot? You've got more vehicles than anybody I've ever seen in my life, but we'll take the same Roll Call. We're gonna vote 'no'."

"Representative Capparelli, I think you wanted to return the Bill to Second Reading for purposes of an...a... Mr. Clerk, the Bill has a... Check to see if the Bill has been returned to Second Reading and held."

"The Bill was returned earlier today to Second Reading and held on Second Reading."

"Any further Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Capparelli."

"Representative Capparelli."

"I'd like to withdraw that Amendment."

"Withdraws Amendment #2. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. The Gentleman asks for Immediate Consideration of the Bill on Third Reading. Is there leave? Leave, and the Bill...does not need it. Okay. Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 843, a Bill for an Act to amend the Counties Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Capparelli."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, the Bill's now in order, and 168  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 it's a vehicle now, and the Senate Sponsor would like it there to put in a Conference Committee. I would like a favorable Roll Call."

"Representative Black."

"Just an Inquiry of the Chair. Are there any Amendments to this Bill?"

"There is one; it's a Cadillac."

"Was this Amendment adopted, just a few seconds ago?"

"No, this Amendment was adopted earlier today."

"Ah, very shrewd move. Okay. Thank you."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 62 voting 'aye', 48 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present', and Senate Bill 843, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 441, Representative Currie. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 441, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. As we amended the Bill today, all it does is provide some notice to people in the Community Care Program who, by virtue of changes in eligibility rules, may no longer qualify. I know of no opposition and would appreciate your support."

"Any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 115 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present', and Senate Bill 441, 169  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 756. Representative Lou Jones? Representative Lou Jones? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1093. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1093 was returned to Second Reading previously and held. Amendment #1 and 2 were adopted previously."

"Any further Amendments? Third Reading. Gentleman asks for leave to have the Bill heard immediately on consideration of Third Reading. Is there leave? Leave. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1093, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Ronan."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1093 is a bipartisan piece of legislation sponsored by myself and Representative Hensel. It deals with drivers license records and access to the public. As we are all aware, a number of corporations in the State of Illinois buy those records. This is to provide safeguards for every citizen in the state who has driver's license records, or any records with the Secretary of State's Office. It's a good rapport package brought forth by Secretary Ryan. I'll be glad to answer any questions or move for the passage of Senate Bill 1093."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 115 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting... Representative Daniels votes 'aye'. One hundred-sixteen voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present', and Senate Bill 1093, having received the required 170  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 195. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 195, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Currie. Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This is a Bill that does some reorganization within the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs. The department agrees with the, not only the intent of the Bill, but also its language, and so I would urge your support."

"Any discussion? There being none, the question is, "Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 113 voting 'aye', none...114 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present', and Senate Bill 195, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 756, Representative Jones. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 756, a Bill for an Act to amend the Homeless Prevention Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Jones." Jones, L.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Senate Bill 756 amends the Homelessness Prevention Act. It creates a new Homeless Prevention Fund in the State Treasury and requires the Department of Public Aid to deposit monies into the fund that are appropriated for the Homeless Prevention Demonstration Program and monies collected by DPA from the federal government as federal participation in the cost of the homeless financial assistance. There was a (sic - an) agreed Amendment by the Sponsor in Public Aid that was put on the Bill, and they 171  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 removed their opposition. As of now, I know of no opposition. I ask for a favorable vote."

"Any discussion? There being none... Representative Black."

"Yeah, just a, very quickly, question of the Sponsor. Representative, it's just simply hard to hear in here right now. You indicated you would hold this Bill on Second until you and the department could work out language. We think that language is in Amendment #1. That's your understanding? We have an agreed Amendment. We have an agreed Bill?" Jones, L.: "Right. Right."

"Let's Roll It." Jones, L.: "Thank you."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed...those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 115 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present', and Senate Bill 756, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 462. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. I'm sorry, it's Senate Bill 962, Mr. Clerk. Read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 962, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Accounting Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Ryder."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On behalf of the Chief Sponsor, I wish to present Senate Bill 962 which increases the number of hours required to sit for a CPA exam. However, this Bill would not have an effective date until the year 2001 to allow those who are currently within their 172  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 education to be able to accommodate that. I'd be glad to answer any questions."

"Any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 114 voting 'aye', 1 voting 'no', none voting 'present', and Senate Bill 962, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 468. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 468, a Bill for an Act in relation to Sentencing and Juvenille Dispositional Review Task Force. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This is the Bill that would create a task force within the Department of Corrections to look at sentencing structures in our correctional system with particular regard both to juveniles and to issues of discrimination. I know of no opposition and would appreciate your support."

"Representative McCracken."

"I realize this is not something which will require that persons be sentenced in various ways, but I object to the Bill, and I object to this task force's mandate that it look at statistical evidence in support of position seeking to prove discrimination based on the race of either the defendant, the plaintiff, or both. The Supreme Court has addressed this issue. Sentencing considerations are dependent upon factors so unique to each case that statistical comparisons do injustice to the concept of individualized sentencing. This is fundamentally flawed and the more lip service we pay to it, in the passage of 173  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 this task force, if we go along with it meekly and mildly, it can only produce the wrong results in the future. This is a fundamentally flawed task which is set forth in this law. I rise in objection."

"Any further discussion? Representative Currie, to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. The Bill makes no reference to statistical comparisons and, in fact, according to the agency in this state that's charged with responsibility for juvenile dispositional activities, this kind of study is required by federal law. So, there was no opposition to the Bill in committee, and I'd appreciate your support."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 61 voting 'aye', 50 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present', and Senate Bill 468, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 427. Representative Weller. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 427, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Weller."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 427 amends the Public Contractor Article in the Criminal Code, require change orders authorized under that article to be made in writing. This legislation has no opposition. It was amended to take care of some concerns that came from IDOT and CDB. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Lang." 174  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We just want Amendment #1 is on the Bill."

"Yes."

"Amendment #1 is on the Bill. Thank you." June 26, 1991 to confirm that

"Any further discussion? There being none, the question is 'Shall this Bill pass? All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 114 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present', and Senate Bill 427, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Laurino in the Chair."

"Senate Bill 102. Representative Giorgi. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 102, a Bill for an Act to amend the Collection Agency Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Giorgi."

"Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 102 amends the Collection Agency Act to allow agencies, collection agencies, that is, to receive assignments of accounts for collection. In the past, they couldn't receive assignments. They were just assigned to collect. The collection agency now, in this case, can sue in their own name but the defenses for the creditor are still the same. So, I don't know of any objection to the Bill. I urge the adoption of the Bill."

"Further discussion? Question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 102 pass?' All those in favor indicate by voting 'aye'; those opposed vote 'nay'. The roll board is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. This Bill having received 111 'aye', 3 'nay', and 1 voting 'present', having received the required Constitutional Majority, is 175  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day hereby declared Curran.

June 26, 1991 passed. Senate Bill 453, Representative Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." "Senate Bill 453, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Community College Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Curran."

"This is simply a shell Bill so that we may deal if we get an agreement on the Illinois Community College Act. There is no agreement now. That's why this is a shell Bill."

"Further discussion? Representative Weaver."

"Inquiry of the Chair. What happened to Amendment 2?"

"Jack, Mr. Clerk."

"It was withdrawn."

"It was withdrawn."

"Hasn't been acted on."

"Can we get them to reconsider that?"

"No. For my sake, yes, but for the sake of the Bill, no."

"Further discussion? Seeing none, Gentleman... The question is... Representative Black." Black: to the "Well, I just would simply rise in support of Gentleman's motion. Since we couldn't reach an agreement, we need this vehicle work out some things in the community college system, and I, on this vehicle, I'll say vote 'es'. There's some others coming up I may not say that on, but on this one we need a 'yes' vote."

"Question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 453 pass?' All those in favor indicate by voting 'aye'; those opposed vote 'nay'. Board is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. This Bill having received 110 'aye', 1 voting 'nay', and 3 voting 'present', having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate 176  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Bill 116. Representative McGuire. Jack McGuire. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 116, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. This Bill's been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Motions or Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Lang."

"Representative Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 is an Amendment that some feel is an anti-gun Amendment. So that ought to wake some people up. Actually, this is a pro-citizen Amendment. It's a protection of your constituents. What this Amendment says is very simple. It says that if you're going to own a handgun, you should have liability insurance on that handgun. That's right. That's what it says. If I'm driving down the street and I run you over, you're going to sue me. I have auto insurance. That auto insurance...that auto insurance will enable you to make a claim, will enable you to be compensated for your injuries. A gun, being a much more dangerous instrumentality than a car..."

"Representative Lang, this issue has been presented to the House in the Bill form. It was defeated. We would like to go right to Roll Call. We'd like to get out of here by eight o'clock tonight. If you persist, we'll continue but..."

"Well, I'd just like to finish my comments. Alright, I tell you what, Mr. Speaker, everyone in this House knows what the Bill does, protect your citizens, vote 'aye'."

"All those in favor indicate by saying 'aye', opposed, 'nay'."

"I asked for a Roll Call!" 177  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

June 26, 1991 "The Gentleman had asked for a Roll Call. All those in favor indicate by voting 'aye'; those opposed vote 'nay'. Board is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. This Bill having received 21 'aye', 87 'nay', and 3 voting 'present', or this Amendment fails. Further Amendments."

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Homer."

"Representative Homer on Amendment #2."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Amendment simply modifies the Bill to provide that trademarks fixed on milk containers may be filed as a trademark with the Secretary of State's Office. I move the adoption."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 116. All those in favor indicate by saying 'aye', opposed, 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments."

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1030, Representative Munizzi. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1030, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Munizzi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. I ask leave of this Body to return the Bill to Second Reading for the purpose of an Amendment, please."

"Representative Munizzi moves for the passage of Senate Bill 1030. Any discussion? Oh, she wants it moved back to Second? The Lady asks leave of the House to move this Bill back to Second Reading. The Lady wants to have this Bill back to Second. The Lady asks leave of the House to bring this Bill back to Second. Does she have leave? 178  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day She has leave. Second Reading. June 26, 1991 Representative Munizzi...or Mr. Clerk, any Amendments.?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Turner."

"Representative Turner. Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1030. Withdraw? Withdraw Amendment #1. Further Amendments."

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representatives Steczo, Giorgi and Rotello."

"Representative Steczo, on Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1030."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Amendment #2 is a...an agreement between the Secretary of State's Office and the Recorder's on using optic...a study for the use of optical discs for a different codification, so I would move for the adoption of the Amendment."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1030. Any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor indicate by saying 'aye', opposed, 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Walsh."

"Representative Walsh, Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 1030. Representative Walsh."

"Amendment #3 is a (sic - an) Amendment that will give a...relinquish the right of reversion from the state to property known as Spring Lake which has originally been given to Streator, Illinois. I ask for a favorable vote on this Amendment."

"The Gentleman asks for adoption of Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 1030. Any discussion? Representative Homer." 179  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

"Would the Gentleman just briefly explain?"

"This is a June 26, 1991 piece of property that's approximately 35 acres, and the problem being that it is too far out from the city for maintenance purposes, and they would like to be able to sell the property; and, therefore, in order to do that, we need this Amendment which will relinquish the state's rights in relationship to reversion in regard to this particular piece of property."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 1030. All those in favor indicate by saying 'aye', opposed, 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Walsh."

"Representative Walsh, Amendment #4 to Senate Bill 1030."

"Mr. Speaker, I move to table Amendment #4."

"Table Amendment #4. Further Amendments? Withdraw Amendment #4. Further Amendments?"

"No further...no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1031, Representative Munizzi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker...excuse me."

"Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 103, a Bill for an Act to amend the Emergency Medical Services System Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Munizzi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. I ask leave of the Body to take this Senate Bill 1031 back to Second Reading for the purpose of an Amendment, please."

"The Lady asks for leave of the House to bring this Bill back to Second Reading. Does she have leave? 180  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Leave being indicated, the Bill will be removed back to Second Reading. Any Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Munizzi."

"Representative Munizzi, on Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1031."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is just a technical change in the Bill that makes the Act take effect upon becoming law. I ask for a favorable vote."

"The Lady asks for adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1031. All those in favor indicate by saying 'aye', opposed, 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 846, Representative Morrow. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 846, a Bill for an Act to amend the Counties Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Morrow."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 846 with Amendment #1, which was adopted on the floor, provides that all elected recorders 'in counties over 60,000 and all elected auditors shall receive an annual stipend of $3,500 for additional duties mandated by state law. Since 1987, the General Assembly has passed nine mandated Bills that the recorders must abide by, and SO I move for the passage of Senate Bill 846."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of Senate Bill 846. Any discussion? Representative Black."

"Yeah, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor reiterate what the..."

"He indicates..." 181  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"Yeah, thank you. What is the Fiscal Note on this?"

"Representative Black, the Fiscal Note comes to, for the 23 counties for the recorders, it comes to $80,500; for the 19 counties for the auditors, it comes to 66,500, a total of 147,000, but there was a...when we went to court to pass the...to allow the stipends to be given to us for chairmans (sic - chairmen) and spokesmen, the court ruled that the recorders of deeds could not accept this kind of stipend in the middle of the term, so this Fiscal Note would not come into effect until F.Y. '93."

"Okay, I appreciate that. One more question: On...on...for example, the treasurer's stipend, as far as you know, have we ever paid that stipend to the county treasurers? The reason I ask is, my treasurer, about a year ago, said he had never received a penny of that stipend."

"Well, I don't know about the treasurers, but I know that Senate Bill 846 would put the recorders, who are affected in this Bill, on equal footing with the other 80 recorders over the last eight years, which have received a stipend as a Clerk Recorder, so all 846 is doing is bringing those 23 county recorders up to par with the other 80, that are already receiving this stipend."

"I appreciate your... I appreciate your patience in answering the questions. You know, I hesitate, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, we all know auditors; recorder in my home county is a personal friend of mine. I don't like to get up and say, 'You can't vote for this Bill'. Obviously, you can vote any way you want, but this is a GRF hit. If it doesn't take effect until 1993, then maybe we should revisit this Bill in 1993. We aren't paying our hospitals; we aren't paying our Medicaid providers; we are cutting Public Aid to the bone; we may be 182  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 making draconian cuts in every aspect of state programs and services, and I just can't, in good conscience no matter how much that I'd like to, vote for a stipend for auditors and recorders at this time, given the financial situation of the state. If it doesn't take effect until F.Y. '93, then let's revisit it in F.Y. '93. I think a 'no' or a 'present' vote might be the right vote."

"The Gentleman asks for passage of Senate Bill 846. Representative Morrow, to close."

"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wasn't gonna to belabor the point, but, you know, we've talked about the fiscal crisis in this state, and even though many of employees are receiving notices that they're going to be layed off, we are, also, aware of the fact that there are many people who have been added to the payroll of this state, so I just move for the passage of Senate Bill 846."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption or passage of Senate Bill 846. All those in favor will indicate by voting 'aye'. The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor of it will vote 'aye'; those opposed will vote 'no'. The vote is open. Representative DeJaegher, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The only question I want ask pertaining to this salary stipend, it seems like we've been responsive to every elected official in county government, but for some reason, we're excluding the coroner. I can't understand why that person would be excluded from the stipend when we're establishing this for each and every other county official. I think it's wrong. I think the county coroner has certain obligations they have to respond to, as far as state filing and et cetera, and I think they should be given consideration, also."

"Representative Weaver, one minute to explain 183  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day your vote." June 26, 1991

"Thank you much, Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to introduce a fellow who's joined us tonight, the Honorable Jack Seamore, the Commissioner of Residential and Savings Finance."

"Welcome, Commissioner. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Dunn, for what reason do you rise?"

"I rise to explain my vote to Senate..."

"One minute to explain your vote, Sir."

"I'm for this Bill, and I wish there'd be more votes up there."

"Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. Representative Hartke, for what reason do you rise, Hartke: Sir?" too. "Yes, I want to explain my vote, I really think it's a shame that we're treating some county officers different than others, and this is the last bunch, and I think we ought to have more green votes up there."

"This Bill, having received 47 'aye', 50 'nay', 14 voting 'present', fails. House Bill... Senate Bill 1042, Representative Munizzi. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1042, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revised Cities and Villages Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Munizzi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. I ask leave of the Body to return this to Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment, please?"

"Does the Lady have leave? Leave is granted. The Bill will be put on Second Reading. Do you object? Hearing no objections, the Bill will be brought back to Second Reading. Representative Munizzi..." 184  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative DeLeo."

"Handled by Representative Munizzi. Proceed. Oh, Representative DeLeo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Senate Bill 1042 is a shell Bill. There's nothing in the Bill. This Amendment is a technical Amendment. What it will allow this to do is just send the Bill to a Conference Committee. I ask for its adoption."

"Any discussion on Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1042? Representative Black."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I know that this will not be viewed with any sympathy on your side of the aisle, but I'm beginning to lose my voice. If you could just get some kind of a oogahorn out here, and on every Cook County and City of Chicago vehicle just blow the horn so we'll know what you're doing, and then we can vote no, and we can speed up the process. This is another City of Chicago vehicle; you've got a hundred of them out there now; vote 'no'."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1042. All those in favor indicate by saying 'aye', opposed, 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. This Bill, having received...having been heard a second time on Third Reading. Proceed, Representative DeLeo, on Senate Bill 1042."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker..."

"Representative DeLeo. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1042, a Bill for an Act to amend the 185  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Revised Cities and Villages Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Hultgren, for what reason do you rise, Sir?"

"Well, Mr. Speaker, first of all, I rise to point out that your elbow is covering my light, and..."

"It's not...it's not my elbow, it's a piece of paper."

"I see. Perhaps..."

"It's the glare. It's the glare."

"Perhaps...perhaps you want to move the paper there. I would object to the consideration of this Bill, at this time, it having been on Third Reading, then brought back to Second this same day and amended. I would object to further...to consideration of this Bill immediately."

"Representative Mc Pike in the Chair. Representative Hultgren, your point is not timely; the Bill's on Third Reading. The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Jack... Representative Hultgren."

"Mr. Speaker, I believe that Rule 37(d) says that the Bill cannot be voted on today. It can, indeed, be moved to Third Reading today; that's not what I objected to. I objected to the vote on Third Reading today, and, I believe, 37(d) prohibits that; and if the Speaker persists in his ruling, I would seek to appeal the decision of the Chair."

"Representative Hultgren, your point was not timely. Representative Laurino was in the... Representative Laurino was in the Chair and called the Bill on Third Reading. The vote on Third Reading requires 60 votes. You have to make the Point of Order prior to the Speaker calling the Bill for Third Reading, and the previous 186  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 Speaker in the Chair, Representative Laurino, called the Bill. The Bill requires 60 votes. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 69... Representative Jones, 'aye'. On this Bill, there are... On this Bill, there are 70 'ayes' and 38 'nos'. Senate Bill 1042, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1427. Mr. Clerk, this Bill's been read a second time. Are there any Amendments?"

"This Bill was moved to Third Reading previously."

"Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1427, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Low-Level Radioactive Waste Management Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Peterson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Previously we adopted Amendment 3, which became the Bill. The Bill now, as it stands, would extend the fees payable to the Department of Nuclear Safety by Commonwealth Edison and Illinois Power at a rate of $1.8 million per nuclear reactor for Fiscal Year '92; continues the fee at the rate of $340,000 per reactor for Fiscal Year '93 through Fiscal Year '96, for the purposes of completing the low-level radioactive waste facility and for the cost of the Seymour-Simon hearings. would, also, like to add, for clarification, that Martinsville is a possible site, but no designation of a site has been made as of this date. I ask for a positive Roll Call on House... Senate Bill 1427." I

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Weaver: to explain his vote." I simply wanted to Representative Weaver ask for clarification that "Well, this...this fee structure is not intended for purchase of 187  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day any land in Martinsville." June 26, 1991

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 106 'ayes', 2 'nos'. Senate Bill 1427, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 9. This Bill's been read a second time. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Levin."

"Representative Levin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm gonna withdraw Amendment #1..."

"The Gentleman withdraws Amendment #1. Further Amendments?"

"...and I would, also, Mr. Speaker?"

"Yeah."

"...I would also hope that the other two, that the Sponsors of the other two Amendments would withdraw them. We had ample debate yesterday..."

"Let's...let's get to those Amendments. Further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representatives Pullen and Anthony Young."

"Representative Pullen."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 would provide that the Department of Corrections, beginning December 15th of this year, would be required to provide HIV testing to prisoners being released from department facilities, so that those persons being released, if infected with the HIV virus, could be counseled about their own medical needs, could be given the opportunity to seek proper medical treatment and could be counseled about ways of not transmitting the virus to other 188  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 persons. This Amendment deals with people who are soon going home to their communities or to other communities in Illinois. It is, I believe, long overdue, especially now that the Department of Corrections has performed a study as to whether HIV is being transmitted within our prisons and has found that one in 300 prisoners are being infected with the HIV virus every year inside Illinois prisons. Our prisons are fast becoming AIDS incubators, and I think that it is long past time that our state government responds to this need, both for those who are uninfected and for those prisoners who have become infected and need medical care. I urge its adoption."

"Representative Lang."

"Mr. Speaker, Parliamentary inquiry. Is this Amendment germane?"

"Yes. Yes."

"That was quick."

"Representative Levin."

"Yeah, Mr. Speaker. This...The underlying Bill was on the Consent Calendar. It' a Bill that allows for additional AIDS hospices in the Hispanic community. The Lady had the opportunity to present Bills...Amendments on this subject yesterday, on Bills of friendly Sponsors. I would ask, at this point, that these Amendments be defeated. This Amendment, according to the Department of Corrections, has a million dollar price tag. This...you know, it's a little Bill, and she...I would...it's an important Bill to the community that it affects, and I will not call this Bill if any Amendments are adopted on it."

"Representative Ryder."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill has a fiscal impact, for which we have no funds to pay. In addition, it's not my understanding what it is that we find out once the 189  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 information is provided. I don't know what happens to those prisoners once a test is made or a test is proved positive; for that matter, my understanding of the HIV virus indicates that it would...could the effect show up any time within seven years after the infection. As a result, we may be testing folks for which the virus doesn't show up for six months, twelve months or a year. It's not a good idea at this time."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'nos' have it, and the Amendment's defeated. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representatives Pullen and Deuchler."

"Representative Pullen."

"Mr. Speaker, I think that it's perfectly obvious what is happening in this House with respect to attempting to protect people from the HIV virus, and I ask to withdraw Amendment #3."

"The Lady withdraws Amendment #3. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 9, a Bill for an Act to amend the Nursing Home Care Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 114 'ayes' and no 'nays'; and Senate Bill 9, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 37. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 37, a Bill for an Act in relation to 190  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 compensating Persian Gulf Veterans from Illinois. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Granberg."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 37 was a result of the negotiations between various veterans' organizations. It was amended on Second Reading to include provisions which resembled House Bill...which were reflected in House Bill 2, which passed to the Senate without any 'no' votes, and I would appreciate your support and ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Representative Black."

"Well, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I would've liked to have asked some questions. I don't think there's any sunset provision on the purple heart, ten-point bonus, and...you know. It's tough to vote against veterans, but I...this Bill ought to be debated. I don't think we know what we're even doing on this Bill."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 112 'ayes'...113 'ayes' and no 'nays'. Senate Bill 37, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 195. Representative Homer. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 195, a Bill for an Act..."

"This Bill has already passed. This Bill has already passed. Senate Bill 116. Mr. Clerk. Mr. Clerk, the Bill's been read a second time. Are there any Amendments?"

"Senate Bill 116. Amendment 2 was adopted. No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 191  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991

"Senate Bill 116, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Homer."

"Thank you, Mr..."

"Representative..."

"I think it's Representative McGuire's Bill. I..."

"Mr. McGuire."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 116. It amends the Criminal Code of 1961 to add a Delivery Container Crime Law Article; provides that theft of bakery and dairy delivery containers is a Class A misdemeanor if $150 or less in value, and a Class IV felony if over $150 in value. I'll answer any questions and appreciate your support."

"And on the Bill, Representative Black."

"Yeah, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield for a quick question?"

"Yes."

"Thank you very much. Representative, if a college student has a dairy delivery case in his dormitory room, in his possession, and if the dairy says it cost over $150, then that college student is guilty or will be charged with a Class IV felony. Is that...is that correct, and is that your intent?"

"I'll defer to my attorney."

"I'm sorry, what?"

"I said I'll defer to my attorney."

"Representative Homer."

"Oh, okay."

"Representative Homer."

"Yes, the issue of value is not an element of the...of the offense; so, yes, that's true."

"So, basically, my statement was that it's true." 192  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

"Yes." June 26, 1991

"Alright, thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 61 'ayes' and 45 'nos'. Senate Bill 116, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 125. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 125, a Bill for an Act to amend the Aeronautics Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Homer."

"This...thank you, Mr. Speaker. This addresses the issue of pilots and crew members of airplanes, and specifically provides or amplifies current law which already prohibits piloting an aircraft while under the influence of liquor or drugs. This specifies when, specifically, the person would be under the influence as anyone with an alcohol concentration .04 or more, any trace substance of a controlled substance or any amount of cannabis. It, also, provides an implied consent provision whereby an officer, on probable cause, can request that a pilot or crew member submit to a (sic - an) analysis of their blood, breath or urine, and upon the result that would be in excess of the amount specified in the Bill would report that to the Civil Aeronautics Board."

"There's no one in opposition to this Bill, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 115 'ayes' and 1 'no'. Senate Bill 125, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 151. The 193  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Bill's been read a second time. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"

"Amendments 1 and 2 were adopted in committee."

"Any Motions?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. Representative DeJaegher. Mr. DeJaegher."

"Mr...Mr. Speaker, there is a controversial Amendment on it. It's Representative Novak's Amendment. I have spoken to Representative Novak. I would like to remove this particular Amendment and then move this Bill into a conference is what I'd like to do."

"Gentlemen...the Bill will be returned to Second Reading. The Bill's on Second Reading. The Gentleman moves to table Amendment #2. The Gentleman moves to table Amendment #2. Any objections to that? Mr. Novak, are you objecting? Mr. Novak."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I've talked to Representative DeJaegher, and I am in agreement. I just would hope that when we do get this Bill to Conference Committee we can work out the problems that were just recently brought to light, that prompted this whole action, so I hope we can work these problems out when it does get to Conference Committee."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be tabled?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment's tabled. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 151, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Controlled Substance Act. Third Reading of the 194  73rd Legislative Day Bill."

STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE "Representative Black, on the Bill." June 26, 1991

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I think I can finish this in a hurry. This Bill's on it's way to conference, as requested by the Cook County State's Attorney. Is that correct?"

"Yes."

"Thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this Bill, there are 109 'ayes', 1 'no'. Senate Bill 151, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 182. The Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 182, a Bill for an Act concerning ethics in government.

Third Reading of the Bill." "Mr. Granberg. Representative Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. May I have leave to handle this for Mr. Granberg?"

"Yes, the Gentleman has leave."

"Thank you. Senate Bill 182 embodies the agreement between both sides of the aisle on ethics legislation; the ethics package that we added to the Bill yesterday, and I move adoption of the Bill."

"Question... Representative Leitch."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We've been working on this Bill together all Session, and I just simply urge our Members to vote for it."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the 195  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 record. On this Bill, there are 114 'ayes' and no 'nays'. Senate Bill 182, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair would like the attention of the Members. At 6:08 p.m. Mary Flowers delivered a little baby girl, six pounds seven ounces. Her name is Makeda Iman Flowers Koutee. Senate Bill 204. It's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 204, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative McGuire."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 204 amends the Illinois Vehicle Code, provides that a discharge and bankruptcy by any other insolvency law does not relieve a person of a drivers license or motor vehicle registration and plate suspension under the proof of financial responsibility for future requirements in regard to an unpaid judgment of more than $250."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Representative Black."

"Yeah, just...all we wanted to know was if the Secretary of State and IDOT had signed off on this Bill? That's all. I'm not sure he's gonna tell me, but..."

"Mr. McGuire. Repeat the question, Mr. Black."

"Did the Secretary of State's Office and the Illinois Department of Transportation sign off and agree to this Bill?"

"I don't think so."

"Okay, thank you, then a 'present' vote's a good vote for me."

"No known opposition, but I don't believe I had any contact with them." 196  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 54 'ayes' and 1 'no'. Senate Bill 204, having failed to receive the Constitutional Majority... Representative McGuire."

"Postpone?"

"Sir?"

"Can I postpone?"

"The Gentleman...the Gentleman wants it on Postponed Consideration. It will be put on postponed. It has 54 votes. Yes."

"Mr. (Day), that's a violation of the rules."

"Mr...Mr. Black, I said on that Bill there were 54 votes; 54 'ayes' and 1 'no', and I didn't announce the Bill had lost or passed. I recognized Representative McGuire. The Bill's on Postponed. Senate Bill 241. Representative Mautino. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 241, a Bill for an Act in relation to public water and infrastructure projects. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Mautino."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. For the purposes of an Amendment, I'd like to take Senate Bill 241 back to Second Reading."

"Representative Mautino, it will require 71 votes if you do that. The Bill's on Third Reading."

"Maybe I'll run with it. Yes, I think that decision is pretty sharp. Yes, Mr. Speaker, I will withdraw that request and run with the Bill with the straight-out notion that this legislation will..."

"Just a minute. Representative Mautino, just a minute, please. The Bill will be taken out of the record momentarily. Senate Bill 246, Third Reading. Read the 197  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day Bill, Mr. Clerk." June 26, 1991

"Senate Bill 246, a Bill for an Act to amend the Housing Authorities Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. McGuire. Mr. McGuire."

"Yes, Sir. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have Senate Bill 246. It amends the Housing Authorities Act. It permits an authority to file suit to evict a tenant who has created or maintained a threat constituting a serious and clear danger to the health and safety of other tenants or authority employees."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 104 'ayes'...Obrzut, 'aye'. On this Bill, there are 105 'ayes' and no 'nays'. Senate Bill 246, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 249. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 249, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Preston."

"Mr. Speaker, I'd ask leave of the House to return this Bill to Second Reading for the purpose of an Amendment. It's been agreed to."

"The Gentleman asks leave to return it to Second Reading. The Gentleman has leave. The Bill's on Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Wennlund."

"Representative Wennlund."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Amendment corrects the technical defect that was created when the health...when the Sports Facility's 198  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Authority was created. Chapman and Cutler has found that bonds issued by municipalities..."

"The question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Does the Gentleman have leave to hear the Bill... The Gentleman asks leave to call the Bill on Third Reading at this time. Does the Gentleman have leave? Leave is granted. Attendance Roll Call will be used. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 249, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 111 'ayes' and 1 'no'. Senate Bill 249, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 250. The Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 250, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Preston. Representative Preston."

"Mr. Speaker, could I make an inquiry of the Chair?"

"Yes."

"Have any Amendments to this Bill been adopted in the House?"

"Mr. Clerk."

"Amendment 1 is adopted to the Bill."

"Yes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the 199  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 House. Senate Bill 250 is a vehicle that we're trying to keep alive. Senator Berman's the Senate Sponsor; he was just here. They're still negotiating on changes with a whole bunch of parties concerning...with the Chicago Bar and others concerning possible changes in the Civil Practice Act and he wants..."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 70 'ayes' and 42 'nos'. Senate Bill 250, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1451. The Bill's on Second Reading. It's been read a second time. Are there any Amendments?"

"Senate Bill 1451. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative..."

"Who is the Amendment Sponsor?"

"...offered by Representative Hultgren."

"Representative Hultgren."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The underlying Bill would create a special class of counties with regard to the appointment of 911 boards. This would remove Peoria County from that special class of counties. It's offered at the request of the Peoria County Board. I would move the adoption of the Amendment."

"Representative... Representative Hasara. The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Hultgren."

"Representative Hultgren."

"Withdraw #2." 200  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

"The Gentleman withdraws Amendment Amendments?"

"No further Amendments." June 26, 1991 #2.

Further Speaker McPike: "Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1451, a Bill for an Act to amend the Emergency Telephone System Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Representative Hasara."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This was what you read about in the Journal Register this morning. It is an attempt by the City of Springfield to steal the 911 system from our county. It is a local problem; our sheriff was never notified, never consulted. I just want you to know this could happen in any one of your counties and someone could bring this down here. I wish we could have some 'no' votes on this Bill. It really is terribly unfair."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 81 'ayes', 28 'nos'. Senate Bill 1451, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 299. The Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 299, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to scholarships at institutions of higher education. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Munizzi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to ask leave of the Body to return this to Second Reading for the purposes of two Amendments."

"The Lady asks leave to return it to Second Reading. Leave is granted. The Bill's on Second Reading. 201  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

Read the Bill. Clerk O'Brien: "Floor Amendment Shaw." June 26, 1991 Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?" #1, offered by Representative

"Representative Shaw." Shaw: Speaker of "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 is an Amendment that's creating a Illinois pilot program for students that keep themselves out trouble and not get arrested, and I ask for the adoption of the Amendment."

"The Chair will recognize Representative Cowlishaw."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Would the Sponsor yield for a...for a question, please?"

"Very briefy, and then to the Amendment."

"This Amendment, I believe, Representative Shaw, is Shaw: the pilot scholarship program that you proposed before and which, I believe, has previously failed?"

"You might say that." "Alright, well, depending upon one's one might say it point of view, just faded rather than failed, but, Representative Shaw, how much money did you think we ought to devote to this program?"

"Representative Cowlishaw, we've heard the debate on this before. we'll vote on it. Cowlishaw: If you'll speak to the Amendment, then To the Amendment." "Alright, I will speak to the Amendment. Thank very much, Mr. Speaker. I am opposed to this Amendment. We don't have the money. Thank you." you

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 be adopted?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Representative Satterthwaite."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. We have 202  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 73rd Legislative Day vehicles and we have retreads. This is a retread, and it ought to be rejected."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Amendment, there are 28 'ayes' and 62 'nos', and the Amendment's defeated. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Munizzi."

"Representative Munizzi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative...Jesus, look at me! Amendment #2 is just a technical change. It'll bring this Bill to a Conference Committee. I ask for a favorable vote."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"The Lady asks leave. Representative Hultgren."

"Yes, I object to hearing this Bill immediately on Third Reading."

"The Lady moves to waive the appropriate rules so the Bill can be heard on Second...on Third Reading at this time. All in favor of the Lady's Motion vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Motion, there are 73 'ayes' and 39 'nos', and the Motion prevails. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 299, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to scholarships at institutions of higher education. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All 203  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 69 'ayes' and 41 'nos'. Senate Bill 299, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 241. The Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 241, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to public water and infrastructure projects. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Mautino, there would be objections if this was moved back to Second. Mr. Mautino."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Two forty-one, as presented now, is a shell Bill. It was stripped in committee. I move for passage of this legislation now. I think everybody else in this House knows that 241 has some Amendments pending on it. We'd be happy to bring those back for your consideration in a Conference Committee. I ask for passage of 241."

"Representative Black."

"Well, just a...just a point of clarification of the Sponsor. Has this Bill been amended in committee SO it goes back to conference, or if this Bill passes out of here does it go right to the Governor?"

"Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments adopted in the House?"

"Amendment #1 was adopted in the House Committee."

"House Amendment #1 is on the Bill, Mr. Black."

"No...no further Amendments are on this Bill?"

"Correct."

"Alright, thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Representative Mautino." 204  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

"Thank June 26, 1991 you very much. I'd like to explain my vote, Mr. Speaker. You have a Bill that's a shell Bill. There's nothing in it that would affect anybody, at this point in time. The Bill came over with infrastructure which provides for water and sewer extensions, as well as sewer and treat...sewer and water treatment plants for those 166 to 200 cities in this state along with construction funds for school bond construction. Now, as a downstater and a person who has been around awhile to know that there are a few programs in this General Assembly that everybody should take part in, I recommend most highly to you that you pass this one out so that we can treat everyone fairly when it comes back, because there are four other Bills dealing with the same subject matter that are out there for consideration. I just think that you'd like to have me sponsoring that Bill to provide you...everybody with input into this process. I would hope that we would pass it out, because you're going to see it again, anyway."

"Representative Hicks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I think I would suggest to the Members of the Body that in the next few days a lot of people, both in the House chambers and the Senate chambers and one floor below us, are going to want a lot of things to happen, around here, and in order to make those things happen certain things have to be alive and well. When you kill Bills like this that simply are available to be used to take care of your concerns, my concerns and a lot of other people's concerns, because certainly there are a large group of us from...let me say the lower half of the state that have an interest in a lot of different things going on. I would suggest to you that without having the right Bills alive to be able to do and take care of those interests that a lot 205  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day of other 'em."

June 26, 1991 things simply are not going to have any votes on "Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 42 'ayes' and 46 'nos'. Senate Bill 241, having failed to receive the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared lost. Senate Bill 378. The Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill...Senate Bill 378, a Bill for an Act to amend the Open Meetings Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Rice."

"A matter of personal privilege point. On Senate Bill 962, I voted 'no'. I wish the record to indicate that I wanted to vote 'yes'."

"What was that Bill number?"

"Senate Bill 962."

"Senate Bill 962, Representative Rice intended to vote 'aye'. Representative Giorgi."

"Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. This is, again, Senate Bill 378 that has to do with legalizing, under the Lottery Control Board, video, keno, bingo and blackjack. All I ask is for a favorable vote. Everyone's heard the Bill. They know what it entails..."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 49 'ayes' and 55 'nos'. Senate Bill 378, having failed to receive a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared lost. Senate Bill 455...435. The Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 435, a Bill for an Act to amend the 206  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 Radiation Protection Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Phelps. David Phelps."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Amendment actually raises the fee for the inspection of the radiation x-ray machines in the dental offices, but it extends the years from three to five, SO it's revenue-neutral raising from $45 to $55. I appreciate your support."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 114 'ayes' and no 'nays'. Senate Bill 435, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Currie. Representative Currie: Currie, on a Motion. Representative Currie, on a Motion." "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I move that we delay until the end of the 1991 Spring Session consideration of Senate Bills 45, 625, 627, 1378 and 1421; until June 30, 1981...1991, on Senate Bills 214, 445, 458 and 500; and until November 8, 1991, Senate Bills 453, 511, 728, 772, 980, 1097, 1405 1406 1407 and 1409, and I've provided the list to the Clerk."

"The Bills to the end of the Spring Session, Senate Bills 45, 625, 627, 1378 and 1421; until June 30th, Senate Bills 445, 214, Senate Bill 458, Senate Bill 500, and on...and until November...and until November, it would be...November 8th, on November 8, 1991, Senate Bills 453, 511, 728, 770, 980, 1097, 1405, 1406, 1407 and 1409. Mr. Black. Mr. Black."

"Yeah, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate you rereading that, because the original Motion would have exhausted most auctioneers that I'm familiar with, but couldn't we, at least, have a list. That's an awful lot of 207  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Bills and SO forth or, at least, put them on the board. That's a lot of Bills and a lot of different dates, and it's just a matter of courtesy to at least give us a list so all the various Sponsors can take a look and we all know what we're doing here."

"Mr. Black, let us get you a copy of this."

"I...we'd appreciate it, thank you."

"Mr. Brunsvold."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Was 1410 on that list? That's one of the LRB Bills that probably should go with that whole package."

"I just gave my list to someone to be copied."

"Okay, I'll check it. Thank you."

"Senate Bill 446. The Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 446, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Controlled Substance Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Burke."

"Mr. Speaker, I'd ask that this Bill be returned to the Order of Second Reading."

"The Gentleman asks leave to return it to Second Reading. The Bill's on Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Johnson."

"Rep... Amendment #2, Representative Johnson. Mr. Johnson. Mr. Johnson's not here. Mr. Wennlund will handle it."

"Representatives Johnson, Burke and Petka."

"Mr. Wennlund."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I ask leave to handle the Amendment for Representative Johnson." 208  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

"The Gentleman has leave." June 26, 1991

"Thank you. Thank you. Floor Amendment #2 merely allows the presiding judge in a trial to rule on a defendant's petition to expunge arrest records. I know of no opposition."

"The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Wennlund."

"Representative Wennlund."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Floor Amendment #3 provides that any person delivering or possessing cannabis or a controlled substance on the premises of a business is subject to up to a maximum term...otherwise be authorized under current law. I move for its adoption."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Burke."

"Representative Burke."

"This Amendment just strips the Bill back to its original status, and we're expecting it'll go to Conference Committee."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #4 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments." 209  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

June 26, 1991 "Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 446, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Controlled Substance Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Burke."

"Yes, I would just simply ask for a favorable Roll Call in this matter. It's going to go to Conference Committee, and all the concerns will be addressed at that point.".

"Is this a vehicle Bill, Mr. Burke?"

"Yes, it is, Mr. Speaker."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' The Gentleman asks leave to have the Bill heard on Third Reading at this time. If there are no objections, the Attendance Roll Call is used. Leave is granted. The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Mr. Clerk, has this Bill been read a third time?"

"Senate Bill 446, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Controlled Substance Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 89 'ayes' and 7 'nos'. Senate Bill 446, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 796. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 796, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Development Finance Authority Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Saltsman."

"Yes, this Bill raises the maximum amount of outstanding balance from 1.5 billion to 2... billion for the Illinois Development Finance Authority. This Bill, if it passes Senate and is agreed, requests your favorable vote." 210  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"If anyone on the floor has any questions of Senate President Rock, he's right over here. The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 101 'ayes', 4 'nos'. Senate Bill 796, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 799. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 799, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Development Finance Authority Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Saltsman."

"This Bill modifies the language the Illinois Development Authority Act relating to existing powers to finance certain projects of having motion picture production. Request a favorable vote."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Representative Olson. Gentleman wish to speak? He's not here. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 100 'ayes' and 8 'nos'. Senate Bill 799, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1302. The Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1302, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to forfeiture of property. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Davis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a piece of legislation that says to people who are using automobiles and airplanes and trucks to 211  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 transport and convey drugs that they subject that vehicle or that piece of property to the forfeiture by the State's Attorney's Office or other government officials, and, I think, it will send a message as well as help us to alleviate this awful problem for the simple reason that the largest drug bust that we find in the State of Illinois today usually has ten or fifteen 13-, 14- and 15-year-olds with their hats on backwards and earrings on as these great big drug dealers. So, I think, with this Forfeiture Act we may put our finger on the pulse of that criminal, who today, does not, or should I say hardly gets arrested, hardly gets noticed and, for some reason, he's never or hardly every prosecuted, and he's the one with the great big vehicle, be it a ship, be it an airplane, be it a large...six- or eight-wheeler, and, I think, that this piece of legislation will help us to put some teeth in the Illinois law on drug forfeiture. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Alright, the Chair's going to recognize one person to speak against it. Mr. Williams."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have to rise in opposition to this Bill, and I want everyone in this chamber to take a listen to this because of the fact that this particular Bill has some serious consequences, and I think everyone would agree that what we're doing, in essence, there are certain...we would call exceptions to the Forfeiture Law. One says, this one says if your daughter or son took your car, went out and got a friend, that friend had some controlled substance in his pocket, they could then take your car as a forfeiture, even though you, your son, your daughter had nothing to do with it. The same thing for common carriers. They could take a Greyhound bus with this particular Bill. They, also, say that a forfeiture deletes the sense of a conveyance incumbent by a bonafide security. 212  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 If your house is subject to a mortgage, someone comes into your house, without your knowledge, with controlled substance on them, they can take your house under this Bill. I do not believe that this Bill is nowhere is in the best policy in the State of Illinois. This is a bad piece of legislation. It goes beyond what we want to do in the Forfeiture Act, and I would ask that there be a 'no' vote on this particular piece of legislation. This is not good policy. This does not go after the drug dealers. It has two...this basically closed down the innocent party loopholes, and I urge a 'no' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Representative Davis. Representative Davis. Representative Davis. Please turn on Representative Davis."

"May I close?"

"Proceed."

"I really do appreciate the comments that were made; however, they are made in ignorance because Paul Williams does not know that this particular Bill simply is cleanup language for what is already law. This is already technically in legislation, and this language is technical to clean up some of the minor things that we need to do in order to pass it. Now, I don't understand, there's seven people who support violations or forfeiture laws on drug abuse and 89 people support what goes on in this state. Is that what happens here? You know, this...this...this place amazes me."

"Ninety. Ninety. Have all voted? Have all voted?"

"I think it's...we recognize that we want to end the abuse of drugs and crime in the State of Illinois, and this is 213  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 just one piece of legislation to help end drugs and crime in this state."

"Representative... Representative, bring your remarks to a close."

"I think it's ridiculous to keep pretending..."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. Representative Matijevich. The record has been taken. Mr. Matijevich."

"Mr. Speaker, just to make Representative Davis feel good, she doesn't have the record. The record for the least amount of votes is held, and will always be held, by Senator Leverenz here on the Bill that he didn't vote for his own Bill; he got zero votes. Ted Levernez."

"On this Bill, there are 9 'ayes' and 91 'nos'. Representative... Representative Davis, would like to vote 'aye'. On this Bill, there are 10 'ayes' and 91 'nos'. Senate Bill 1302, having failed to receive a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared lost. Representative Black. Mr. Black, can we proceed on Representative Currie's Motion? The Chair...the Chair will now address itself to House Calendar, Supplemental #1. These Bills, having received the Constitutional Majority, are hereby declared passed, and the list of how many votes each Bill received is available from the Clerk. Senate Bill 271. The Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 271, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Black."

"Yeah, just an inquiry of the Chair."

"Yes."

"Has an Amendment been added to this Bill SO the Bill will...will, perhaps, end up in Conference?"

"Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments adopted?" 214  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"Amendment #1 was adopted previously."

"Okay, then let me just help the Sponsor. I've just been talking to the Secretary of State and to your people. It's the intention that this Bill go to Conference, and we think we can get it worked out, so we withdraw our opposition to the Gentleman's Bill. Let's roll it, and it'll go to Conference."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 114 'ayes'... Representative Martinez would like to vote 'aye'...Mr. Martinez, 'aye'...115 'ayes', no 'nays'. Senate Bill 271, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 461. Representative Steczo. Mr. Clerk, has this Bill been read a third time?"

"This Bill has been read a third time."

"Mr. Steczo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House...Senate Bill 461 increases the salaries of the members of the Civil Service Board of of the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District by $2,500 per year. There are three members; the total cost is $7,500, and the district has requested this...this Bill. I would...and it's accepted for the States Mandates Act. I...I'd ask for a 'yes' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Representative Wennlund."

"Mr. Speaker."

"Mr. Wennlund."

"Just to remind the Members of the House, Mr. Speaker, that this Bill was on Postponed Consideration having failed 215  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 73rd Legislative Day the first time. It is a salary increase and just as long as you know it."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 53 'ayes' and 51 'nos'. Senate Bill 461, having failed to receive the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared lost. Representative Currie's Motion to extend the deadlines. The deadline till the end of the Spring Session will be Senate Bills 45, 625, 627, 1378, 1421; and until June 30, 1991, Senate Bills 214, 445, 458 and 500; and until November 8, 1991, Senate Bill 511, Senate Bill 770, Senate Bills 980, 1097, 1405, 1406, 1407, 1409. The question is, 'Shall this Motion be adopted?' The question is, 'Shall the Motion be adopted?' All in favor say...question is, 'Leave for the Attendance Roll Call?' Leave is granted. Attendance Roll Call is to be used, and the Motion carries. Representative Black."

"Well, yeah, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. We would...we would simply ask that the Chair allow us to extend the deadline to the end of the 1991 Spring Session on Senate Bill 263."

"Representative Currie, on the Motion."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would object to including that Bill in this Motion, but I'm sure that the Gentleman could make that Motion as a separate..."

"Representative Currie, your Motion has already passed by use of the Attendance Roll Call. The question is on this Motion. Representative Currie, on the Motion."

"This is the..."

"All...all in favor of the Motion say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'no's'..."

"I would object to this Motion." 216  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"The 'nos' have it, and the Motion is defeated. Representative... Senate Bill 484. Senate Bill 484. Mr. Hultgren."

"Yes, on the list that was provided, you extended the deadline on 728, but it was not among the Bills that was on the board. Could I ask whether that was deleted from the list or whether it was a mistake that it did not appear on the board?"

"That Bill...that Bill already passed. The Bill already passed."

"Thank you, I'm sorry."

"Senate Bill 484. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 484, a Bill for an Act in relation to trade with the European community. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Rotello."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I ask for leave to move this back to Second Reading for purposes of an Amendment."

"The Gentleman asks leave to move it back to Leave is granted. The Bill's on Second. Second Reading. Any Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Rotello."

"Mr. Rotello."

"This Amendment, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, will.. the Illinois Small assist Illinois exporters. ... Business Loan to be

"The question is, 'Shall the Amendment adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, an and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative 217  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day Rotello."

"Representative Rotello."

"I withdraw Floor Amendment #2." June 26, 1991

"The Gentleman withdraws Amendment #2. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Does the Gentleman have leave to hear it at this time? Attendance Roll Call will be used. Leave is granted. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 484, a Bill for an Act in relation to trade with the European community. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Mr. Harris, to explain his vote. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there is 109 'ayes' and 3 'nos'. Senate Bill 484, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 487. The Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 487, a Bill for an Act to amend the Residential Mortgage License Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Shaw."

"Thank you, Mr...thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 487 is, as amended, provides additional clarification to the definition of a loan broker and codifies the...and increases the network...net worth requirements for mortgage loan broker, in addition to various other changes to the administration of the licensing program...license and program."

"Mr...on the Bill, Mr. Black."

"Yeah, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Just an inquiry 218  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 of the Chair. Has Floor Amendment #2 been adopted to this Bill?"

"Mr. Clerk?"

"Amendments #1 and 2 have been adopted."

"Alright, thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 110 'ayes' and no 'nays'. Senate Bill 487, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 608."

"Senate Bill 608..."

"Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. This Bill on Third Reading?"

"Consideration Postponed. This Bill's been read a third time previously."

"Alright, the Bill's been read a third time. Representative White."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 608 would provide three scholarships commencing in 1993 for any student who has attended podiatric medical school and will commit himself to serving in underserved areas."

"Does anyone stand in opposition to this? Mr. Weller."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill was debated this past week and failed to receive the significant number of votes to pass, and the reason that, even though we have the greatest respect for the Sponsor and his goals and what he wants to do, we're at a time when we can't afford to do what this Bill would accomplish. One thing I'd like to point out to those on 219  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 both sides of the aisle that are concerned about the over billion dollar deficit that our state is facing right now, that the cost of implementing this Bill would, at a minimum, cost the State of Illinois $42...over $42,000 during the first full year of implementation, and that figure does not include the cost of grants, scholarships and loans but only reflects administrative costs for the Illinois Department of Public Health. For that reason and, like I say, I think it's a great idea and we could probably afford it in a year or two, but we can't afford it this year, and I would urge an 'aye' vote for fiscal soundness."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 74 'ayes' and 27 'nos'. Senate Bill 608, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 616. Representative... Representative Cronin had wished to vote 'aye' on the previous Bill. Representative White had intended to vote 'aye' on the previous Bill, also. Senate Bill 616. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 616, a Bill for an Act to amend the Municipal Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Keane,"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill was amended dealing with the use of revenues for transmitting messages by portable telephone or mobile phone. The Amendment now is not acceptable to both parties. They want to have this go to a Conference and work it out there. I move the passage of the Bill."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? 220  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there's 109 'ayes' and no 'nays'. Senate Bill 616, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 619. The Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 619, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the rights of married women. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there's 112 'ayes', 1 'no'. Senate Bill 616, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 645...645. The Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 645, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Deering. Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Representative Deering would vote 'aye'. Have all voted? Representative Deering."

"Mr. Speaker, this Bill was supposed to be pulled back to Second Reading for purpose of an Amendment."

"The Chair was not aware of that. Mr. Clerk, Mr. Clerk, dump the Roll Call. Gentleman asks leave to return the Bill to Second Reading. Gentleman asks leave and leave is granted. Bill's on Second. Mr. Clerk, any Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative McGann."

"Representative McGann."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the Assembly. 221  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 645 has the election of the members of the Board of Trustees to the community colleges and addresses the district that is continuance in the experimental district governed by the Article IV that is the next non-partisan election November of odd number years that will have elected trustees in the district. It does not apply to Chicago. It does not apply to Belleville. It is permissive. There is a referendum required after 10% or 2,000 of the voters, a referendum could take place. It's a fair approach. It has no demands or mandates in this Bill, and I'd ask for adoption of Amendment #2 which becomes the Bill."

"Alright, the Chair would like to recognize one person to speak against it. Who should that be? Representative Cowlishaw."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker."

"Excuse me, Ms. Cowlishaw. I have a number of lights blinking up here. There are a number of people who wish to talk against the Bill. Representative Cowlishaw will speak for them."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. This Bill proposes that the election of board members by trustee district may be submitted to the voters of any community college district in the entire state. The subject of electing community college trustees by district, one to a district, is a very controversial issue that has been debated on this floor time and time again and has always failed. One of the reasons that it has is because it is extremely difficult for minorities to elect members to these boards when you do this by district. That is... been well substantiated by the Trustees' Association of Community Colleges in this state. I suggest that this is not a timely thing to do to Representative Deering's Bill, and I 222  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day think we ought to defeat this Amendment."

"Question is, 'Shall the Amendment All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. McGann." June 26, 1991 be adopted?'

Representative McGann: "The previous speaker was inaccurate relative to her comments. This does not affect Chicago, and it does not affect Belleville; further, it is...permissive and one of the reasons we do have it is to help, to help minority opportunities in a given college district outside of Chicago."

"Representative McNamara."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of this Amendment that affects statewide. It does not single out a single district as it did before. My understanding is that this is a referendum process which affects the full state. It does not single out any individual district, and I rise in support of this Amendment."

"Representative Wennlund."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the event this Amendment is adopted, I object to consideration to the Bill on Third Reading on this day in accordance Rule 37(d)."

"Thank you. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Black."

"I just want to explain my vote. I don't think the community college board, the community college trustees, and you all have these people in your district, I don't think they are aware of this. I'm not...I'm not sure they are in favor of it. I'm not even sure they need this. If they wanted to do it, I think they can already do it. I don't know why you want to kill Representative Deering's Bill. Let's bring this Amendment back at another time. Vote 'no'."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The 223  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Clerk will take the record. On this Motion, there are 53 'ayes' and 54 'nos', and the Amendment is defeated. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Read... Third Reading. The Gentleman would like to take the Bill out of the record. Senate Bill 654. Six fifty-four, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 654, a Bill..."

"Representative Hicks. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"A Bill for an Act to amend the Service Occupation Tax Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Hicks. Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 99 'ayes' and 9 'nos'. Senate Bill 654, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 681. Six eighty-one. The Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 681, a Bill for an Act to amend the Probate Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Dunn."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a minor Amendment to the Probate Act which would increase the threshold from 25 to 50,000 dollars for small estate affidavits, remove the attorney affidavit, and it would keep the threshold low for public guardians and that's what they want. I know of no opposition. Ask for favorable vote."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On 224  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 this Bill, there are 112...113 'ayes' and no 'nays'. Senate Bill 681, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 697. Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 697, a Bill for an Act to amend the Clinical Social Work and Social Work Practice Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Steczo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. The Illinois Medical Society and the social workers have agreed to take this Bill to Conference to work out some language as it relates to social workers in the Mental Health Code."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 93 'ayes' and no 'nays'. Senate Bill 697, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 708. Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 708, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Curran. Mr. Curran."

"House Bill 708 provides that meetings of the board of control of joint education cooperatives that are open to the public members and public employees of the cooperative may comment or ask questions and further provides that if...that the collective bargaining agent can get time off."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Mr. Clerk, has this Bill been read a second...a third time?"

"Senate Bill 708, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill." 225  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 87 'ayes' and 20 'nos'. Senate Bill 708, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1161. Eleven sixty-one is on Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, the Bill's been read a second time. Are there any Amendments?"

"No Comm...no Floor Amendments."

"Mr. Wait."

"Thank you. I move to Third Reading."

"Yes, there are no further Amendments, Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 1161, a Bill for an Act to create the Community Building Complex. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 90...101...100 'ayes' and 6 'nos'. Senate Bill 1161, having received the Constitutional...having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 714. Seven-fourteen. The Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 714, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is an agreed Bill with all the parties that have been working on the Wage Deduction Activities Unions. Both sides of the aisle, please vote 'aye'."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Representative. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will 226  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day take the record. June 26, 1991 On this Bill, there are 106 'ayes', no 'nays'. Senate Bill 714, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 724. Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 724, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Cowlishaw."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Could we please return this Bill to Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment?"

"Yes. Lady asks leave to return this Bill to Second Reading. Leave is granted. Bill is on Second Reading. Are there any Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Lang."

"Mr...Mr. Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #2 is an agreed Amendment with the Sponsor and the Attorney General. It takes liability out of the Bill."

"Question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. The Lady asks leave to hear the Bill at this time. Leave is granted. Attendance Roll Call will be used. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Senate Bill 724, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 113 227  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 'ayes', no 'nays'. Senate Bill 724, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 771. Representative Hicks. The Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 771, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Finance Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Representative. Have all voted? Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 112 'ayes' and no 'nays'. Senate Bill 771, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 785. Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 785, a Bill for an Act to amend the Juvenile Court Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Munizzi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. Senate Bill 785 amends the Juvenile Court Act. It states that a minor who is prosecuted as an adult and escapes from a penal institution or violation of bail bond gets treated as an adult. I ask for a favorable Roll Call. Thank you very much."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Dunn, 'aye'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 98 'ayes' and 14 'nos'. Senate Bill 785, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 812. Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 812, a Bill for an Act to amend the Human Rights Act. Third Reading of the Bill." 228  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

June 26, 1991 "Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have ali voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 77 'ayes' and 25 'nos'. Senate Bill 812, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 826. Representative Keane. Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 826, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Keane."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is the Agricultural School Bill. I move its passage."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Representative Black."

"I'm sorry. ...Mr. Speaker. I didn't hear him. Did you say this is a rate Bill?"

"This is the Chicago Agricultural School Bill. We amended it the other day. I move its passage. It's been by your side."

"On its way to Conference?"

"No, this is it. They'll concur, and it'll go."

"Alright.

Alright." approved "Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 105 'ayes' and 3 'nos'. Senate Bill 826, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 930. Nine-thirty. Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Bill's on Third Reading. Read the "Senate Bill 930, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act. Third 229  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Currie." June 26, 1991

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill is headed for a Conference Committee. I'd appreciate your support."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; oppose... Representative McCracken. All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'."

"I hope this Bill does nothing now. Is that the gist of it?"

"Representative Currie."

"We ought to kill it anyway."

"This Bill does nothing now, Representative McCracken."

"No good can come of this Bill, isn't that right?"

"This Bill does nothing now, Representative McCracken. We're trying to put this Bill in a Conference Committee."

"Representative Black."

"I think...I think the question, that the concern has been raised is whether Floor Amendment #1 was added to the Bill."

"Representative. Mr. Clerk, what is on the Bill?"

"Amendment #1 is adopted to the Bill."

"Representative Hoffman."

"A real quick, quick, Mr. Speaker. I would like the record to reflect that on House...or Senate Bill 812, Representative Granberg and myself inadvertently voted 'no'. We meant to vote 'aye'."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Representative Ryder."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I should indicate that this Bill will serve as a vehicle...or this Bill is as a result of some negotiation. I am a latecomer to this Bill. I was asked to be part of this Bill by Representative Johnson who 230  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 supports this Bill. That may add votes, then again, it may subtract some. I don't know, but I want... clearly to understand that. I would ask your support."

"Have all voted? Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 62 'ayes' and 33 'nos'. Senate Bill 930, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 915. Nine-fifteen is on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 915, a Bill for an Act to amend various Acts relating to safe school zones. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Balanoff."

"Yes, this expends the safe school zone to be 24 hours a day, seven days a week and includes school buses."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Representative Homer. Mr. Homer."

"Mr. Speaker, this Bill was supposed to be amended, but it was an Amendment Representative Black had proposed through staff. I...I would suggest that we dump the Roll Call; move it back. It's a technical Amendment and then do it right."

"Mr. Balanoff agrees. Mr. Clerk, dump the Roll Call. Dump the Roll Call, Mr. Clerk. The Bill's on Third Reading. The Gentleman asks leave to return it to Second Reading. Leave is granted. Goes on Second Reading. Are there any Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Homer."

"Representative Homer."

"Amendment's technical. I would move its adoption." 231  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES -TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"Question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendments adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. The Gentleman asks leave to hear it at this time. Hearing no objections, the Attendance Roll Call will be used. The Bill will be heard at this time. The Bill has been read a third time. Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 103...104 'ayes' and 3 'nos'. Senate Bill 915, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 961. Nine sixty-one is on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 961, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Novak."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker. May I have leave of the Body to take it back to the Second Reading."

"Gentleman asks leave to return it back to Second Reading. Leave is granted. The Bill's on Second Reading. Are there any Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Novak."

"Representative Novak."

"Yes, it is basically a technical change. It changes one word, and I ask for its adoption."

"Question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendments adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. The Gentleman asks leave to hear 232  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 26, 1991 the Bill at this time. No objections. The Attendance Roll Call will be used. Leave is granted. The Bill is on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 961, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 89 'ayes' 9 'nos'. Senate Bill 961, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 973. It's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 973, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Hannig."

"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This Bill provides that a teacher may refuse to give medication to a student in school if he or she feels they're not qualified to do so."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Representative Cowlishaw."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Just for the purposes of the record. I was asked to mention into the record that we established committees for each local school district to do this about a year ago, and they have not even had time to issue reports at these advisory committees. And finally, I think we ought to make clear that there is no liability for teachers or other school employees who dispense medications, and the reason for that is they are covered by their local school board with liability insurance that encompasses all of their duties. Those things I think needed to be entered into the record 233  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day and thank you very much."

"Representative Satterthwaite."

June 26, 1991 "Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I, too, object to this Bill. As was stated, we have already asked our school districts to provide policies under which they will take care of this problem. Now, before the deadline for those plans are to be submitted, we are changing the rules in the middle of the game. If you feel that your school districts are frustrated by our action here, this is a perfect example as to why they are frustrated. We don't even allow them time to complete the policies that we asked them for last year. We have school districts already operating under last year's Bill, making their plans, and now we will be changing that. This Bill does not deserve to pass. We should wait and see what they come up with on their own and not give them further constraints."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there's 75 'ayes', and 29 'nos'. Senate Bill 973, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Sen...Senate Bill 988. The Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 988, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Savings Association Banking Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Parke."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 988 amends the Foreign Banking Office Act. The State Pension Code and the State Moneys Act add obligations of the International Financial Corporation to the list of permissible investments. I ask for its passage."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those 234  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there's 110 'ayes' and no 'nays'. Senate Bill 988, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 989. Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 989, a Bill for an Act to amend the Natural Resources Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Kulas."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker. This is a Committee Bill. It's comprised of about six or seven different Bills, nothing controversial. I'd move for its passage."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 111 'ayes' and 1 'no'. Senate Bill 989, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 992. Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 992, a Bill for an Act to amend the Special Service Area Tax Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Williams." Williams; "Senate Bill 992 amends the Special Service Act by requiring ordinances establishing special services to be recorded within 60 days of their passage..."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 113 'ayes' and 1 'nay'. Senate Bill 992, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 999. It's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 235  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"Senate Bill 999, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Munizzi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. Senate Bill 999 allows the testing HIV for victims of criminal sexual assualt and children who are victims of sexual abuse. I ask for a favorable Roll Call. Thank you."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Mr. Homer."

"I would point out that this Bill has Amendment #2 on it, which is an awful Amendment that would allow DCFS to order HIV tests of people who have a report of a suspected case of neglect. I think it's awful. It ought to be defeated."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 80 'ayes' and 22 'nos'. Senate Bill 999, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1006. It's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1006, a Bill for an Act to amend the Fire Protection Fire Investigation Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Brunsvold. Mr. Brunsvold."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill contains...has two Amendments on it. First one would allow the Fire Marshall to make loans from the Fire Fund, and he only may do that, not shall, and the second provision was House Bill 2197 which passed out of here with 113 votes. I ask for the passage of Senate Bill 1006."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor say... vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? 236  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Mr. Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 86 'ayes' and 21 'nos'. Senate Bill 1006, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1030. Ten-thirty, Mr. Clerk. Ten-thirty. Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1030, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Munizzi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. Senate Bill 1030, as amended, makes some technical changes in the Municipal Code. They're stylistic changes, and this Bill will go over for a Conference Committee. I ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 72 'ayes' and 39 'nos'. Senate Bill 1030, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1031. Bill's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1031, a Bill for an Act to amend the Emergency Medical Service System Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Munizzi."

"Thank you again, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. This is probably the Bill that made the rock group the Ides of March famous. It's a Bill...it's a Bill that's a vehicle that's going to go to Conference Committee. Thank you, Joel, for the fine toot. I ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? 237  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 72 'ayes'... On this Bill, there are 69 'ayes' and 39 'nos'. Senate Bill 1031, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1058. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1058, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative White. The Bill has been read a third time. Mr. White."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1058 seeks to correct a flaw in the law. Would allow rehab services and mental health benefits to be provided in a free-standing facility."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 98 'ayes', 8 'nos'. Senate Bill 1058, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1061."

"Senate Bill 10..."

"Bill's on Second Reading. Are there any Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Matijevich."

"Representative Matijevich."

"Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1061 would increase to... from $200 to $500 of the liability for a car rental customer. The AG's Office has been lobbying against it only because they think this Bill is going to Conference Committee. The lobbyist who asked me to pick the Bill up in the House told me that on the floor that I could say there's no intent that this Bill go to a Conference Committee, so I would ask 238  73rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE for the adoption of Amendment #1..."

"Representative Kulas." June 26, 1991

"Question of the Sponsor."

"Yes."

"Representative Matijevich, at the present time if I go rent a car, my liability as a customer is limited to $200."

"That's right."

"Why do you want to raise the liability of the customer's to $500?"

"Before 1988, Myron, there was no limit. Three years ago we passed the...$200 limit and the experience over the three years has been that the damages have been much higher, so this is a compromise. There are many companies who wanted to go back to the prior law before 1988. This is a compromise that it be raised to 2...500."

"Well, to the Amendment, Mr. Speaker. I rise to oppose the Gentleman's Amendment. If you want to vote for the consumer, then you'll vote against this Amendment. Let's face it, when you rent a car, they have insurance. The insurance company doesn't lose any money on it. They pay insurance. What they're going to do is raise their deductables to lower their cost, and at the same time you're going to be paying more. So, if you're for the consumer, you'll vote against this Amendment."

"Representative Giglio."

"It's my understanding, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, that the Attorney General does not want this, and understand and if you're really with the consumer you would defeat this Amendment."

"Mr. Matijevich, do you want a Roll Call vote? Mr. Black."

"Yeah. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I would echo the two previous speakers. I would ask for a Roll Call on 239  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 this Amendment. The two previous speakers have put it out for you. It also defines the term 'damage' to mean 'the actual incurred cost'. This is not a good consumer Bill. They're currently liable for $200. This Amendment would make them liable for $500. I don't know what the genesis of this Amendment is, but I don't think it's time for this Amendment to see the light of day, perhaps later on. I ask for a Roll Call vote, and I would ask you to defeat Amendment #1."

"Question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Mr...Mr. Matijevich."

"Speaker, I wa...I want to explain my vote."

"Okay."

"Speaker, I want to explain my vote. Having always supported consumers, I want to change my vote, and I urge the other two to do it, too."

"Representative Giorgi votes 'no'. On this Amendment, there are 0 'ayes', 114 'nos', 0 voting 'present'. The Amendment's defeated. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. Representative Preston."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just received a phone call from Representative Flowers, and she said had she been here she also would have been voting 'no'."

"Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1061, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Matijevich."

"Since the Bill does nothing, I'll just leave it there."

"Out of the record. Senate Bill 1105. It's on 240  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1105, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Nursing Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. White."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of House, there's no opposition to this Bill."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 112...114 'ayes' and no 'nays'. Senate Bill 1105, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill llll. Eleven-eleven. It's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill llll, a Bill for an Act to create the Alternative Sentencing Job Training Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Shaw."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1111 creates a (sic - an) Alternative Sentencing Job Training Act. Provides that the Director of the Department of Corrections is..."

"No one is standing in opposition. The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 109 'ayes', 1 'no'. Senate Bill llll, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1147. It's on Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments? Are there any Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Hartke." 241  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991

"Representative Hartke."

"Withdraw Amendment #1."

"Gentleman withdraws the Amendment. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Hartke."

"Representative Hartke."

"Amendment #2 becomes the Bill. It... It is House Bill, orginial House Bill 247 as passed out of the House. It got bogged down in the Senate, and so now 1147 will be House Bill 247, if this Amendment and Bill passes."

"Mr. Hartke, will you explain what the House Bill was?"

"Yes, House Bill 247 was the Funeral Directors' Probate Act which allowed interest to be considered a first class expense probate. Cleared it with both sides of the aisle."

"On the Amendment, Mr. Homer."

"Representative Hartke, do I understand your Amendment guts the Bill?"

"That's correct."

"So that there will be nothing in the Bill regarding probation fees collected by..."

"Absolutely nothing to do with that at all. It is now, if this Amendment would pass, House Bill 247,"

"I see. Okay."

"Which is the... Probate Act."

"Sounds good."

"Question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1147, a Bill for an Act to amend the 242  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 Unified Code of Corrections. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 102 'ayes', 1 'no'. Senate Bill 1147, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1151. Senate Bill 1151 is on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. Representative Schakowsky."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I ask leave to bring it back to Second to table..."

"Lady asks leave to return it to Second Reading. Is there any objections?"

"I ask to table Committee Amendment #1."

"Just a minute. Mr. Clerk, turn (sic - return) the Bill to Second Reading or dump the Roll Call, please. Bill's on Second Reading. Are there any Amendments?"

"A Motion to...table Committee Amendment #1."

"Lady moves to table Amendment #1 and on that, Representative McCracken."

"Thank you. What's the gist of the Amendment? Why do you want to table it?"

"The State Police had asked me to add it because it allows them to control their building, but there was no agreement with the Secretary of State as they purported, so they've asked me just to take it off now. It had nothing to do with the Bill. It was to allow the State Police to control their building, rather than the Secretary of State's Office. The Secretary of State... They're in some. Just take it off."

"Okay, thank you."

"Question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 be tabled?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, 243  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day June 26, 1991 and the Amendment's tabled. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill..."

"The Lady asks leave to hear the Bill at this time. Leave is granted. The Attendance Roll Call will be used."

"Senate Bill 1151, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Schakowsky."

"Thank you. Senate Bill 1151 requires all law enforcement agencies to report to the State Police all hate crimes."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Representative McCracken."

"A year ago or whenever this thing passed in the first place, we were told it would be limited to the State Police, and now it's automatically extended to everybody in the world. It's just another example of how we move incrementally. Nothing makes sense because you can justify it by what you did yesterday. It's a bad precedent to move it along this way."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 84 'ayes' and 26 'nos'. Senate Bill 1151, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1169. It's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1169, a Bill for an Act to amend the Deposit of State Moneys Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Keane." 244  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 73rd Legislative Day

"Mr. Speaker. the State June 26, 1991 This Bill clarifies the types of collateral Treasurer may accept for deposits of state funds."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill, there are 108 'ayes' and no 'nays'. Senate Bill 1169, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1217. It's on Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 1217, a Bill for an..."

"Representative Giorgi."

"...to amend the Juvenile..."