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Illinois House Floor Debate — June 11, 1992

87th General Assembly (1991-1992) · Legislative day 154 · Regular Session
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Speaker Madigan

June 11, 1992 "The House shall come to order. The House shall come to order. Members shall be in their chairs. Please, sit down, Mr. Balanoff. We shall be led in prayer today by the Reverend Norman Cullumber of the First Christian Church in Blue Mound, Illinois. Reverend Cullumber is the guest of Representative Noland. Will the guests in the gallery please rise and join us in the invocation?"

Cullumber

"Let us pray. Eternal God, we're grateful for the life that You have given, for the possibilities that that life affords. We're thankful for this state and its people and the beauty that it holds for us. We now seek Your guidance for the times in which we live and for the momentous decisions that have to be made. We understand that the implications of these decisions are far-reaching, and the future generations of people, young and old, will be affected. Each person here is conscious of the responsibilities of being in this place. As we ask for divine help, we open ourselves to the potential that You place in the hands of these who have been chosen. We ask Your special blessing that their lives will be graced by unique insight and vision and understanding and feeling. Out of the frustrating events, bring calm. Out of difficulty, bring solutions. Out of doubt, bring certainty. Our trust is that we are surrounded by divine love and care and that in all the affairs of human beings, Your presence is there to strengthen, to empower and to reveal. Bless each one here with that steading sense of Your visitation. Amen."

Speaker Madigan

"We shall be led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Representative Ropp. I understand he's not here. Mr. Marinaro, the Pledge of Allegiance."

Marinaro et al

Marinaro et al: "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United 1 154th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 11, 1992 States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Speaker Madigan

"Roll Call for Attendance. Mr. Matijevich, are there any excused absences?"

Matijevich

"Mr. Speaker, the excused absence on this side of the aisle is Monique Davis. Mr. Speaker, I'd also like to make a comment (which probably won't mean much to anybody here except maybe you and Zeke Giorgi and Ralph Capparelli and Monroe Flinn and Roger McAuliffe, I believe, and Jane Barnes, who were here 20 years ago), but I have a flag on my desk, and I'm reminded that 20 years ago today, at my desk, when we prayed, Elmo McClain, who was a good friend of mine, stood next to me and prayed with me, and he was sweating, and I told him to go home. And Joel Fennessey who had dinner with Elmo and me on many occasions, tried to talk him into going home. He wouldn't do it. He was committed to stay here and vote for the Equal Rights Amendment. Twenty years ago today, he collapsed on the floor of the House, and the next day he passed away. I want his family, his wife and all of his family, including Mike McClain whom many of you know, to say that 'We remember Elmo, that he was a dear friend of mine and many of us who...everybody that served here. Our fond memories are with him. May God continue to bless him and his good family."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Kubik."

Kubik

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let the record reflect that Representative Ropp is excused today."

Speaker Madigan

"Let the record show that Mr. Ropp is excused. Mr. Parke."

Parke

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Flag Day 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day is Sunday. June 11, 1992 I'd like to remind everybody of that, and if you, by chance..."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr...Mr. Parke, one second. We're on the Attendance Roll Call. I'll come right back to you."

Parke

"I'm sorry."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 116 Members responding to the Attendance Roll Call. There is a quorum present. The Chair recognizes Mr. Parke."

Parke

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, Flag Day, I believe, is Sunday. I happen to have some speeches for Flag Day. I'll be goin' around if anybody wants any of the speeches for Flag Day. Thank you."

Speaker Madigan

"Could you make sure that Mr. Daniels has one of those speeches? Mr. Daniels. Would you make sure that he has one? Thank you. Representative McGann has filed a McGann: Motion relative to Senate Bill 1908. Mr. McGann, on your Motion relative to Senate Bill 1908." "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members of the Assembly,...I had a thorough hearing in Economic Development this morning relative to Senate Bill 1908. There were some Members that were absent from the committee who I'm sure would have voted 'aye' for this vehicle to come out on the floor. The Bill is relative to adult education, and a commitment was made that we would not, would not, move the Bill off of Second Reading until there's been a complete agreement. And, for this reason, I'm asking to discharge the committee and place Senate Bill 1908 on Second Reading."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. McGann has spoken on behalf of his Motion to discharge the Committee on Economic Development from further consideration of the Bill. The Chair recognizes the chairman of the Committee, Mr. Morrow." 3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day

Morrow

June 11, 1992 "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in...to oppose the Motion to discharge from committee Senate Bill 1908, and I would ask for a ruling of the Chair. Possibly, is this Motion untimely at this time? Is this Motion untimely?"

Speaker Madigan

"No, the Motion is timely, Mr. Morrow. However, you might be int..."

Morrow

"All right. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I'd like to then..."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Morrow. Mr. Morrow, you might be Morrow: interested to know that the Motion will require 71 votes." "Well, I'm...I'm not concerned about the number of votes. I'm concerned with the fact that the process was fair. Last week, we listened to testimony on Senate Bill 1908, both pro and con. I have now had the opportunity to speak to the groups that oppose 1908, and they...the remark was made that they were in agreement to discharge the Bill out of committee or to vote the Bill out of committee to continue talks. I've been informed that they did not make that commitment. So, I would...oppose the Motion that's being presented on Senate Bill 1908. And I would wish that red votes go on this Motion. Thank you."

Speaker Madigan

"The Chair recognizes Representative Satterthwaite."

Satterthwaite

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I, too, rise reluctantly in opposition to this Motion. I understand the Sponsor's desire to work with the issue involved here, but I want him and the other Members of the Assembly to know that there is another vehicle Bill on the floor of the House that will be available for any kinds of decisions that come out of the proposals for reorganization for work force preparation. And until there is a resolution of the issue in regard to adult education, I 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day June 11, 1992 believe we should not have this vehicle out on the floor. I urge your 'no' vote."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Weaver."

Weaver

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this issue has had a full hearing, as the chairman of the Committee has already indicated. There was a vote taken, and I believe it was in accordance with all the normal process that we go through here. And, so, really the Motion to discharge committee is an attempt to sidestep what that committee went through, in terms of all the hearings and the vote that they took, and I think if we're going to put any kind of credence in the committee process at all, we ought to let it do its work. I think the Motion is simply an attempt to get this issue on the floor. As the previous Speaker has said there is not an agreement between the adult ed. community and the community college folks, as indicated to me last night by Dr. Israel, and I think we would be better served if we waited until the community college community and the adult ed. people got together and worked out an agreement before we took an action directly in opposition to the hearing on the committee. So, I would advise, perhaps, a 'no' or 'present' vote on this Motion."

Speaker Madigan

"For what purpose does Mr. McGann seek recognition?"

McGann

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd ask that you take Senate Bill 1908 Motion out of the record."

Speaker Madigan

"This matter shall be taken out of the record. There is on file with the Clerk a Motion by Mr. Hartke to discharge the Committee on Agriculture from further consideration of Senate Bill 2179 (sic - Senate Bill 2177). The Chair recognizes Mr. Hartke." 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day

Hartke

June 11, 1992 "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Senate Bill 2177 was the only Bill assigned to Agriculture Committee and the committee did not meet, and I've spoken with the chairman of the committee, as well as the spokesman for the Republican side over here, Representative Black, to seek this Motion. Mr. Speaker, the board is wrong; it's 2177...to ask that it be discharged and moved to Second Reading. This piece of legislation is the second half of the environmental concerns and the cleanup legislation and companion Bill to Senate Bill 1750, and I would ask for the support of the House."

Speaker Madigan

"So, Mr. Hartke, this is the matter where you've been negotiating with the fertilizer companies and the pesticide companies?"

Hartke

"Yes, it is."

Speaker Madigan

"Have any Illinois citizens been around those meetings, Mr. Hartke?".

Hartke

"I think they're all Illinois citizens, Sir."

Speaker Madigan

"I see. All right. The Gentleman moves to discharge the committee from further consideration of the Bill. Is there leave? Leave is granted using the Attendance Roll Call and the Motion is adopted. There is on file with the Clerk a Motion by Mr. Obrzut relative to Senate Bill 2039 to discharge the Committee on Transportation from further consideration of the Bill. Mr. Obrzut. Mr. Obrzut. Senate Bill 2039."

Obrzut

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I move that we discharge from committee Senate Bill 2039. This Bill had 15 votes; it needed one more vote to get out of committee. It passed the Senate 53 to 2. Unfortunately, the Municipal League came out and opposed the Bill and there was some confusion. I was hoping to have the Bill 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day called this week; unfortunately, June 11, 1992 the chairman cancelled this meeting 'cause there was only one Bill on the...on the Bill list to be heard. So, what I'd like to do, and I've the chairman's agreement...Chairman Ronan's...approval on this, is to discharge it from committee, and I'd like to work with the Municipal League to try to work out whatever differences they have."

Speaker Madigan

"The Chair recognizes the chairman of the committee, Mr. Ronan."

Ronan

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative Obrzut's correct. I did support the Bill in committee. It failed because of... We didn't have a lot of Members there that day and because of the opposition of the Municipal League. So that, I don't have a problem with the discharge Motion and, obviously, Members can vote their conscience, but I did support the Bill in committee."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Black."

Black

"Yeah. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Madigan

Black

"The Sponsor yields." "Representative, what does the Bill do?"

Obrzut

"Oh, I'm sorry. The Bill would require safety inspections for limousines."

Black

"Is that, is that the only intent and purpose that you have for this Bill?"

Obrzut

"Yes."

Black

"And it requires that limousines be inspected by the Obrzut: Illinois Department of Transportation?" "...of Transportation. Correct."

Black

"Is the Department of Transportation in agreement with that request?"

Obrzut

"They didn't...they didn't oppose it. They didn't file a 7 154th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 11, 1992 statement either way, yes or no or support or against."

Black

"All right. You...you have... We have your assurance then that no other provision will be added to this Bill under your sponsorship?"

Obrzut

"Yes."

Black

"Thank you."

Speaker Madigan

"You've all heard the Motion and the debate. Those in favor of the Motion will signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Motion is adopted using the Attendance Roll Call. Mr. Obrzut has also filed a Motion relative to Senate Bill 1628. Mr. Obrzut, on 1628. This would discharge the Revenue Committee from further consideration. Mr. Obrzut."

Obrzut

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I would like to discharge Senate Bill 1628 from the Revenue Committee. This Bill was heard this morning. The Senate Sponsor wanted to be there; unfortunately, with other Bills that he had up in committee, he couldn't. What I'd like to do is have the ability to present this Bill to the whole House. What it would do is to provide...allow permissive legislation for municipal governments to give utility tax breaks to firms that deal with 50% or more of their manufacturing as gas or electricity related. And I would like to have a Motion...a favorable vote on this."

Speaker Madigan

"The Chair recognizes the chair of the committee, Representative Currie."

Currie

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wasn't in the subcommittee to hear the testimony on the Bill. My understanding is that the Bill is restricted so that a local government would have to approve the provisions before that Bill were to pass. So, I guess, I would defer to Senate...Representative McGann, who was the chairman of the 8 154th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 11, 1992 subcommittee that heard the Bill."

Speaker Madigan

"The Chair recognizes Mr. Black."

Black

"Yeah. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Madigan

"The Sponsor yields."

Black

"Representative, is this Bill rather narrowly construed?"

Obrzut

"I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you."

Black

"Is this Bill rather narrowly construed?"

Obrzut

"I don't believe so."

Black

"In other words, it...it...it's your intent that it's drafted SO it could serve any business in the State of Illinois. Correct?"

Obrzut

"Any business that has 50% of their operation is gas or it uses 50% in order to manufacture their product, has electricity or gas in their processing. I have...Let me explain, Representative. I have a company in my district that is paying $100,000 a year to the City of North Lake. What they're looking for is just the opportunity to bring the...to have it introduced in the city council so that the city council can make a decision whether or not they should be exempt. Right now, they don't have that ability."

Black

"Is this particular company located in North Lake, Illinois?"

Obrzut

"Yes, it is."

Black

"All right. Thank you very much, Representative. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I rise in opposition to this discharge Motion. It appears to us that the legislation is...almost borders on special interest. We think it only affects one company in one district in the State of Illinois. As such, we rise in opposition to the Gentleman's Motion. We'd ask for a Roll Call Vote and an inquiry of the Chair. It's our opinion that it would take 9 154th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 11, 1992 71 votes to discharge."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Black. Mr. Black."

Black

"Yes, Sir."

Speaker Madigan

"Your point concerning the number of votes is well taken."

Black

"Thank you."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Hicks."

Hicks

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Question of the Sponsor, please. Will the Gentleman yield?"

Speaker Madigan

"The Sponsor yields."

Hicks

"Representative Obrzut, is this of any cost effect to the state at all? Would it cost the state any money at all?"

Obrzut

"No. Not at all. Basically, what this would do is just give municipal governments the opportunity to vote on whether or not they want to give an industry either that's coming to their town or that is currently in their municipality within their corporate boundaries, it gives them an opportunity to vote whether or not they wanna give them an exemption on the utility tax."

Hicks

"So it's totally permissive?"

Obrzut

"Right."

Hicks

"To the Bill, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. You know, this doesn't cost the state one dime. It gives local governments the opportunity if they want to entice a business, a manufacturing concern, to come to their area, to give them the incentive to come and create jobs. Why in the world would we say 'no'?"

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. McGann, did you wish to speak to this matter?"

McGann

"Mr. Speaker, on this Senate Bill we had a hearing on our subcommittee. I have no objections if there's something that's underlying here that can be brought out on Second 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day June 11, 1992 Reading. I have no objections to stand in opposition at this time."

Speaker Madigan

"We've all heard the Motion. The Motion is to discharge the Revenue Committee from further consideration of the Bill. The Motion will require 71 votes. Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 69 'ayes' and 44 'noes'. The Clerk shall poll the absentees."

O'Brien

"A poll of those not voting: Black. McPike and Stange."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. McPike? Record Mr. McPike as 'aye'. Anyone further? Anyone further? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 70 'ayes' and 44 'noes'. The Motion fails. There is a Motion on file with the Clerk by Mr. McNamara, relative to Senate Bill 2183. Mr. McNamara."

McNamara

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Senate Bill 2183, I wish to discharge from the Revenue Committee. The problem was that during the negotiations last week, we were not able to hear the Bill because we were getting ready to offer some Amendments to the Bill. This morning, due to the long dissertation in the Executive Committee on several of my Bills and one of Representative Daniels Bills, I was unable to make it over to the meeting in time. I would ask for the discharge of the Revenue Committee."

Speaker Madigan

"Representative Currie."

Currie

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Gentleman is right. He was not in Revenue Committee this morning. I think the Members of the Revenue Committee have had an opportunity to look at 11 154th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 11, 1992 the Bill, however, and I'm sure that each of them will vote their (sic-his/her) consciences."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Black."

Black

"Yeah. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Madigan

"The Sponsor yields."

Black

"Representative, did this Bill receive a hearing in a subcommittee?"

McNamara

"No, Representative Black, it did not. The problem with it was, is that we were trying to correct some of the difficulties in the Bill. It will have to be amended, probably on Second Reading. We were trying to do that before we would have it through the subcommittee to get it out in a totally clean shape. Unfortunately, due to this morning's rush of business, it was unable to be done. It did not receive a hearing during the subcommittee."

Black

"All right. Thank you very much, Representative. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Reluctantly, I rise in opposition to the Gentleman's Motion. This Bill creates an income tax credit. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. You're being asked to vote on a Bill that creates a 100% income tax credit if a new recycling or expanded recycling business sets up shop in an enterprise zone. It does/not...it is not retrospective. If you already have a recycling business in that area, they will not be able to take advantage...100% income tax credit. Now in a...now in a fiscal year where all of us are being asked to make some very difficult votes because we do not have enough money, I'm not sure that we need to be granting 100% income tax credits at this particular time. I am not in opposition to the Gentleman's idea. It's just that the timing is such that I question whether or not we should be looking at 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day June 11, 1992 those kinds of tax breaks in a fiscal year when we are cutting the budget by hundreds of millions of dollars. So, I respectfully ask for a Roll Call Vote, Mr. Speaker, and will respectfully ask for a 'no' vote."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Kubik."

Kubik

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I sit on the Income Tax Subcommittee in Revenue. We had a number of opportunities for hearings. My...while I realize the Gentleman was involved in negotiations, I think he could have brought the Bill forward. He decided not to bring the Bill forward. I think this is... We ought to respect the committee process, and while I respect the Sponsor highly, and respect his intentions on this Bill, I believe the correct vote is a 'no' vote in order to respect the committee process. So I would ask my colleagues to respectfully vote 'no' on this Motion."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. McNamara, to close."

McNamara

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First of all, I thought that we were just talking about the Motion which was on the floor, which was a Discharge Committee, and not the substance of the Bill. But in my closing, in order to discuss the substance of the Bill since it was brought up from the other side of the aisle, what this substance of this Bill is, is since it was already opened up for a matter of discussion, is very simply to open up recyclable markets. If we do not do that in this state, if we do not open up those recyclable markets, we have killed recycling. By your actions of not even giving this Bill a chance on this floor for that type of discussion, says that you're against recycling, you don't want the markets. If we're gonna talk about income tax credits, don't forget that there is only approximately 20% of revenue from income tax. 13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day June 11, 1992 Most, 80%, of the companies in this state do not pay income tax because they do not declare a profit because of all the things that they have. So we're talking about, in actuality, the incentive to start a market which is correct in order to bring our problems in this state under control. In response to the other speaker's area of 'ample opportunity', et cetera. Yes, there was ample opportunity and in good faith negotiations. I was there until last. When I showed up immediately after the Executive Committee this morning, your committee had already discharged. There was no intent of ever trying to bypass this measure. This happens to be important for the state. It makes a statement that if you're for recyclable materials, if you wanna do something about the problems of this state, you'll vote to discharge this committee and truly discuss it in Second Reading. Thank you for your 'aye' votes."

Speaker Madigan

"You've all heard the Motion. Those in favor of the Motion signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 71 'ayes' and 31 'noes'. The Motion, having received the required number of votes, is hereby declared adopted. The Clerk has received a Motion from Mr. Novak, J. Philip Novak, relative to Senate Bill 2229. Mr. Novak."

Novak

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I move to discharge Senate Bill 2229 from the Revenue Subcommittee and the Full Revenue Committee. Unfortunately, the Bill was not heard, and the Bill concerns...It's a shell Bill right now, and it's been cleared with the Republican side of the aisle, and we intend to put Representative Phelps' Ethanol Bill in the 14 154th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 11, 1992 Bill to make it that's intention, and to have all the Republican Co-Sponsors come back on the legislation. I ask for your support."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Kubik."

Kubik

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the spokesman on the Committee on Revenue, I have not spoken with the Gentleman regarding this Bill, so I don't know whom the Republicans he has talked to, to discharge this committee, are. So, perhaps, maybe it would be wise if he took the Bill out of the record so that we know where we're at."

Speaker Madigan

"Representative Currie, the Chair of the Revenue Committee."

Currie

"He took it out of the record. He's taken it out of the record."

Speaker Madigan

"J. Philip Novak requested this matter be taken out of the record. Are there any other Motions to discharge committee? Are there are any other Motions to discharge committee? Is there anyone who wishes to call a Bill on Third Reading? Is there anyone who wishes to call a Bill on Third Reading? Is there any Republican who wishes to take advantage of this opportunity? Mr. Phelps."

Phelps

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I kinda got in on the last of 2229 of Mr. Novak's effort and maybe we got mixed signals, but we thought that Representative Black had cleared us to try to at least have a vote on that, and maybe Mr. Kubik didn't understand that, so if we could have an attempt at that, I believe we've got at least minimum opposition."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Phelps, you may want to talk to the chair of the Revenue Committee, Representative Currie. For what purpose does Mr. Ronan seek recognition?" 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day

Ronan

June 11, 1992 "Yeah, Mr. Speaker, since we're gonna go to Third Reading, I got a Bill on Third Reading that passed out of my committee unanimously. It's a clean-up Bill for the Secretary of State's Office. Let's get it off the Calendar and send it to the Governor."

Speaker Madigan

"Does it have a number, Mr. Ronan?"

Ronan

"Sure. It's got number 2167."

Speaker Madigan

"(Senate Bill) 2167. For what purpose does Mr. Manny Hoffman seek recognition?"

Hoffman

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wondered if we could possibly move Senate Bill 1902?"

Speaker Madigan

"What Order is that on, Mr. Hoffman, Second or Third Reading?"

Hoffman

"Third Reading, Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Madigan

"(Senate Bill) 1902?"

Hoffman

"Yes, Sir."

Speaker Madigan

"All right. Well, let's go to Mr. Ronan's Bill, Senate Bill 2167. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

O'Brien

"Senate Bill 2167, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Ronan."

Ronan

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I said, this was a clean-up Bill for the Secretary of State's Office. It passed out of the Senate I, think, unanimously, and you know, all it does is solve some of George Ryan's problems, and I'll be glad to answer any questions concerning this Bill. It passed out of my committee unanimously."

Speaker Madigan

"You've all heard the Gentleman's presentation, is there any discussion? Mr. Black."

Black

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Madigan

"The Sponsor yields." 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day

Black

June 11, 1992 "Representative, how many Amendments are on this Bill?"

Ronan

"There is one House Amendment and one Senate Amendment."

Black

"One of my colleagues would like to know if there is any Amendment, on there dealing with...helmets, mandatory."

Ronan

"No."

Black

"Thank you."

Speaker Madigan

Those "The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 113 people voting 'aye, 1 person voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill, 1902. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. (Senate Bill) 1902. Mr. Hoffman."

Hoffman

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I understand it's on the Consent Calendar. I apologize."

Speaker Madigan

"Now you understand someone could knock that off the Consent Calendar? You have an opportunity here."

Hoffman

"Well, I would then be happy to call it. I mean it's a non-controversial Bill, and I would certainly be happy. It's probably one of my last Bills here."

Speaker Madigan

"All right, the Bill shall be taken off the Consent Calendar, placed on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, has this Bill been read a second time?"

O'Brien

"This Bill has been read a second time."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Amendments?"

O'Brien

"Amendment #1 was adopted in committee." "Is there a Motion?"

Speaker Madigan

O'Brien

"No Motions filed." "Are there any further Amendments?"

Speaker Madigan

O'Brien

"No Floor Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day June 11, 1992

O'Brien

"Senate Bill 1902, a Bill for an Act in relation to the powers and duties of the Department of Alcoholism and Substance Abuse, Third Reading of the Bill."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Hoffman."

Hoffman

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. This Bill merely consolidates some reporting from DASA, and makes reporting a lot more easier, (sic easy) and saves a few dollars in our budget at a time when we desperately need to save a few dollars."

Speaker Madigan

"You've all heard the explanation of the Bill. Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 113 people voting 'aye', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Weller, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

Weller

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to take advantage of this opportunity. I have a non-controversial Bill, Senate Bill 1783, that's on Third Reading."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. (Senate Bill) 1783."

O'Brien

"Senate Bill 1783, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Printing Contracts Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Weller."

Weller

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This proposal is aimed at agencies that publish expensive annual reports. One agency for example, produced an annual report that cost the state of Illinois $11.14 per copy. On the other hand, CMS only spent 23¢ per copy on its last annual report. Under this legislation, House Bill 17...excuse me, Senate Bill, 1783, requires agencies to seek CMS approval of all requests for 18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day June 11, 1992 printing annual or periodic reports before any such printing is purchased, before any such order for such printing is issued, before any such reports are printed. It's an accountability measure, designed to reduce printing costs for the State of Illinois, and save the taxpayers some money. I know of no opposition and would ask for your support."

Speaker Madigan

"You've all heard the Gentleman's presentation. Those in favor of the passage of the Bill... For what purpose does Representative Pullen seek recognization?"

Pullen

"I'd like to ask one quick question, Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Madigan

"The Sponsor yields."

Pullen

"Can you tell us whether the Department of Central Management Services contemplates charging departments and agencies any kind of fee in connection with getting permission to print reports?"

Weller

"It is my understanding, Representative, that they simply will be the ones accountable for approving or disapproving suggested annual reports, and I'm not aware of any plans that they would have for a fee."

Pullen

"Thank you."

Weller

"Thank you."

Speaker Madigan

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill, signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 115 people voting 'aye', 0 people voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. J. Philip Novak has returned with his Motion relative to Senate Bill 2229. Mr. Novak."

Novak

"Thank you, Michael J. Madigan, Speaker of the House. 19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day. June 11, 1992 Members of the Legislature I've spoken to Representative Kubik, who is the spokesman... Minority spokesman on the Revenue Committee and has (sic-have) cleared it with him. However, Representative Currie, who is the chairman, is opposed to the Motion but I'm asking everyone on the Floor for 71 votes. We think this is important legislation, and, as I indicated, we intent to gut the Bill, to gut the language that it's in it right now and put Representative Phelps' alternative fuels legislation that had many Sponsors, Republicans as well as Democrats, and I ask for your support."

Speaker Madigan

"Representative Currie, the chair of the committee."

Currie

"Thank you Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I rise in opposition to the Gentleman's Motion. It is true that he didn't appear before the committee this morning, but the members of the subcommittee, I think, had a pretty clear idea of the controversy that this Bill involves. There is no agreement among the various people involved in this issue, although I think that was suggested when the Gentleman presented his Motion a few minutes ago. I think there's no question that this Bill would have died in committee had the Gentleman presented it, and I think this House should stand behind the committee process and vote 'no' on this Motion to discharge."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Kubik."

Kubik

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would like to follow-up the comments of the chairman...chairwoman of the committee. There seems to be some confusion on this legislation. I have spoken to the representatives at the oil industry. They indicate that there is no agreement on this particular legislation and 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day June 11, 1992 so, at this point in time, because there is no agreement, I will continue to oppose the Motion...So, I just want the membership to know my understanding at this point in time, is there is no agreement on this particular Bill. So, I think that we ought to oppose this Motion and keep this Bill in committee at this point in time."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. McGann. Mr. McGann."

McGann

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I attest to the remarks of the previous two speakers. As chairman of the subcommittee that was going to hear this Bill, the Representative did not show up for the subcommittee hearing. It is very controversial; it has a problem. There are no agreements, and I would ask, in order to uphold the committee process, that we should oppose Senate Bill 2229."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Black."

Black

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I simply rise to support the Gentleman's Motion to discharge. I think everyone knows what the underlying issue is, and I'm not sure we'll ever have agreement on the underlying issue, but if you believe in alternative fuels, as I do, and as many of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle do as well, then I think you should support the Gentleman's Motion to discharge and give us an attempt to perhaps work out this Bill and reach agreement. I think it would be in the benefit of all the people of Illinois if we could reach agreement on this Bill, but we can't even proceed if we don't have something to work with. So, I stand in total agreement with the Gentleman's Motion to discharge."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Phelps. Mr. Phelps."

Phelps

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise only to emphasize that perhaps the confusion that Mr. Kubik alluded to... You're right, there is not an 21 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day June 11, 1992 agreement on the Bill, but the Alternatives Fuels Bill that we attempted a couple of weeks ago, because of attendance problems, barely failed and now has provisions that the oil companies wanted in the Bill which they said they would at least be neutral, maybe in support. That's what we have ready to go on this legislation, and that's what we were not prepared to do at the committee this morning. That's why no one showed up, and so if you are for ethanol and alternative fuel use and you want to challenge the federal prospective on the use of ethanol and the scam on which they have recently brought about on ethanol use, then vote against this Motion. But, I think if you have the best interests of an industry in this state that can prosper, then I think this is in your best interest to support this motion."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Keane."

Keane

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On the Motion. For the past ten years, Revenue Committee has had nothing but a very, very busy slate. This year, it was especially light. There were three opportunities for the Sponsor to...all Sponsors have had their Bills heard on three different weeks. We were looking for work to do. The Sponsors did not come to committee with their Bill. This is in direct violation of the committee process, and on the Motion (not on the merits and this should be a vote on the Motion), you should vote 'no' on this Motion because it weakens our committee system."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Novak, to close."

Novak

"Mr. Speaker, just to elaborate on what Representative Keane indicated. The reason why I didn't show up to the committee meetings is because there wasn't (sic-weren't) any votes to get it passed. I've been workin for the last 22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day June 11, 1992 three weeks to try to get some support on this thing. We need to keep this dialogue going, as Representative Black indicated, and as Representative Phelps indicated. No, there isn't an agreement on this alternative fuels issue, but we need to keep the dialogue going. We need to keep something out there that we can work with, not what they're doing with the EPA in Washington. So, please support this Motion."

Speaker Madigan

"You've all heard the discussion. Those in favor of the Motion to discharge the committee will record themselves as 'aye', those opposed will vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 58 'ayes' and 49 'noes'. This Motion requires 71 votes. The Motion fails. The Clerk has received a Motion from Mr. Hicks, relative to Senate Bill 2164. Mr. Hicks."

Hicks

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would move to discharge Judiciary I on Senate Bill 2164. This currently is a shell Bill for the Securities Act. Senator Barkhausen had it in the Senate. We're still working on that Bill. There is (sic-there're) a number of things to be done. It's highly unlikely that we will not even get to it this year, but we would like to have the Bill in place in case we are able to work out the agreements on the Securities Bill. At the time it comes before the House, it'll be a Bill that will be agreed upon, and it's something we'll all be voting on, and voting green, and with that consideration I would ask the House to put this Bill on the floor."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentleman moves to discharge the Judiciary I Committee from further consideration of the Bill. The Chair recognizes the Chair of the Committee, Mr. Dunn, John 23 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 11, 1992 154th Legislative Day Dunn."

Dunn

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Reluctantly, I rise in opposition to the Motion. As the chair of this committee, I'd quickly point out that this committee operates quite successfully on a bipartisan basis, and a very thoughtful basis, and tries to see to it that the measures which wind up in the statute books have some input from the Members of both parties who consider legislation which comes before the committee on a thoughtful basis. This is a shell Bill, so it won't have that kind of treatment, and we don't know what might be in it, and it could wind up to be a major rewrite and, for myself, I have always opposed major rewrites that do not come before the committee with proper consideration. So, I reluctantly rise in opposition to the Gentleman's Motion."

Speaker Madigan

"The Chair recognizes Mr. Black."

Black

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. In all, I have all the respect in the world for the Sponsor of this Discharge Motion, but I would ask him to take it out of the record; perhaps we can come over here and talk about it. Evidently, this started out as a Secretary of State Administration Bill, and now there is some confusion as to whether the Secretary of State, in fact, wants this Bill on the floor. So, with apologies to the Sponsor (because I have no objection to his Motion), perhaps he could take it out of the record, and we can talk about what the Secretary of State's office would like to do with this Bill."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Preston. Mr. Preston."

Preston

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm guess I'm the only one rising in support of the Gentleman's Motion. I have the utmost faith in Representative Hicks. I know that he wouldn't be using a vehicle for anything unless it was 24 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day worthwhile. June 11, 1992 That has been his tradition here in the past, so I support the Gentleman's Motion."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Hicks has moved to discharge the Judiciary I Committee from further consideration of Senate Bill 2164, and Mr. Hicks requests this matter be taken out of the record. On Third Reading, there appears House Bill 2155, Mr. Ryder. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

O'Brien

"Senate Bill 2155, a Bill for an Act concerning narcotics profit forfeitures. Third Reading of the Bill."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Ryder."

Ryder

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill contains language that's been worked out between the Department of Alcoholism and Substance Abuse, and also with the Attorney General's Office, that implies that profits made from the forfeiture of alcohol...from narcotics can then be used in some of the prevention and treatment programs. I'd be glad to answer any questions you may have."

Speaker Madigan

"Is there any discussion? Mr. Brunsvold."

Brunsvold

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

Speaker Madigan

"The Sponsor yields."

Brunsvold

"Representative, will...does this affect the local government at all? Is any money being taken away from local law enforcement, as a portion of the forfeiture money?"

Ryder

"No, Representative, this would be the state's share, and it primarily goes to the Attorney General's Office, and it's permissive. It allows the Attorney General, if he so chooses for the state's share, to see that some of the funds are used in this fashion."

Brunsvold

"Thank you Representative."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Homer."

Homer

"Thank you. Yes, I support the Bill. This is an 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day June 11, 1992 agreement with the Attorney General and DASA on refinement of the statewide grand jury narcotic forfeiture provisions, and I know of no opposition. I suggest an affirmative vote for the Bill."

Speaker Madigan

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 115 'ayes', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House (sic-Senate) Bill 1964, Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. (Senate Bill) 1964. Senate Bill 1964."

O'Brien

"Senate Bill 1964, a Bill for an Act in relation to criminal law. Third Reading of the Bill."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. McAuliffe."

McAuliffe

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill is in response to an epidemic of shootings in Chicago. Since January of 1991, 31 police officers have been shot. This is an attempt to send a message to the people who are shooting these police officers, that you can no longer get put on probation for shooting at a police officer. It would raise the minimum sentence from four years, which is probational, to a minimum of six years. It would raise the maximum from 15 years to 30 years. Also, if you murder a police officer or firefighter or a paramedic or a jail guard, the minimum sentence would go from 20 years, which it currently is now, to natural life in prison under this Bill, and the maximum penalty is the death penalty in both cases. Hang em."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Deering."

Deering

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Madigan

"The Sponsor yields." 26 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day June 11, 1992

Deering

"Representative, you said this was a Chicago initiative. Does the Bill pertain statewide?"

McAuliffe

"The Bill pertains statewide."

Deering

"Thank You."

McAuliffe

"We don't have the figures for police shot Downstate though."

Speaker Madigan

"Okay, you've all heard the discussion. Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Representative Stern, to explain her vote."

Stern

"Actually, Mr. Speaker, I wanted to ask a question, before I spilled my iced tea. I just wanted to find out what the prison impact would be of this Bill, since we have discussed so often that we didn't wanna to continue to jam people into the prisons, since we're not opening new ones."

Speaker Madigan

"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. McAuliffe, to explain his vote."

McAuliffe

"Not necessary, Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Madigan

"The Clerk shall take the record. I'm sorry, Mr. Homer did you seek recognition? Mr. Balthis, did you wish to speak?"

Balthis

"Yes."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Balthis."

Balthis

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies & Gentlemen, I applaud Mr. McAuliffe for his efforts on this Bill because, just a few months ago, as most of you know, in Lansing, Illinois, we lost a young police officer and I appreciate those green votes on the board. Thank you."

Speaker Madigan

"Okay. The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 96 'ayes', 7 'noes'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared... Mr. McGuire. Record Mr. McGuire as 'aye'. 27 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day June 11, 1992 There are now 97 'ayes', 7 'noes'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Giorgi."

Giorgi

"Mr. Speaker, Senate Bill 460..."

Speaker Madigan

"(Senate Bill) 460?"

Giorgi

"It's a Bill that was taken out of the record yesterday."

Speaker Madigan

"What is the number, Mr. Giorgi?"

Giorgi

"Senate Bill 460. Senate Bill 460, which was taken out of the record yesterday and so that...A Bill that's been in the making for a couple of years, and what we need to do is to move this Bill from Third to Second Reading, SO I can put an Amendment on it and move it outa here."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Clerk, what is the posture of this Bill?"

O'Brien

"Senate Bill 460 is on Third Reading."

Speaker Madigan

"Put the Bill on the Order of Second Reading. Are there any Amendments?"

O'Brien

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Giorgi."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Giorgi, on Amendment #2."

Giorgi

"Mr. Speaker, this is a technical Amendment that's needed in the Bill for the parties that have agreed to pass the Bill. This Bill has been endorsed by the Illinois Cemetery Authority, Funeral Directors' association, Comptroller's Office, Department of Public Health, Cemetery Association of Greater Chicago, Funeral Director Service Association and Cremation association of North America, and it creates the Crematory Regulation Act. It requires all authorities to register with the Office of the Comptroller. It specifies who may authorize the cremation of a deceased person. It specifies the form of the legal documents. It requires authorities to keep and maintain records. It specifies procedures to be followed by the crematory 28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day authorities. It specifies who is responsible June 11, 1992 fo for and how the remains are to be disposed of. It has penalties and everything that's necessary, and it's an Agreed Bill, but Mr. Black wants to...I'm dead right."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Black. Mr. Black."

Black

"Yeah, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I know of no opposition to this Bill. I stand in complete support with the Dean of the House on this legislation. Hopefully, this will head off the kind of scandal that has emerged in California in the not-to-distant past, and it's an outstanding Bill, and I would urge an 'aye' vote."

Speaker Madigan

"Those in favor of the Motion say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Gentleman moves to adopt the Amendment. Those in favor of the Motion say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

O'Brien

"No further Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, has the Bill been read a second time?"

O'Brien

"The Bill was read a second time previously."

Speaker Madigan

"Okay. Read the Bill for a third time."

O'Brien

"House Bill 460, a Bill for an Act concerning cremation and regulation of crematories. Third Reading of the Bill."

Speaker Madigan

"Since this Bill was amended today, Mr. Giorgi moves to suspend the rules to provide that he can consider the Bill on Third Reading today. Is there leave? Leave is granted using the Attendance Roll Call. Mr. Giorgi, on the Bill."

Giorgi

"Mr. Speaker, this Bill has been two years in the...on the drawing board, and everyone's aware of what's in the Bill, and I urge the House to pass the Bill today." 29 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day June 11, 1992

Speaker Madigan

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 115 people voting 'aye', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, you have an Adjournment Resolution?"

O'Brien

"Senate Joint Resolution 174. 'Resolved, by the Senate of the State of Illinois, the House of Representatives concurring herein, that when the two Houses adjourn on Thursday, June 12, 1992, they stand adjourned until Tuesday, June 16, 1992, at 12:00 noon."

Speaker Madigan

"You've all heard the Resolution. Mr. McPike moves for the adoption of the Adjournment Resolution. Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Resolution is adopted. Mr. Clerk, do you have any messages from the Senate? Do you have any Resolutions? Agreed Resolutions?"

O'Brien

"House Joint Resolution 147, offered by Representative Klemm. House Resolution 2111, Trotter; 2133, Harris; 2134, Wyvetter Younge; 2135, Steczo; 2136, Steczo; 2137, Obrzut; 2138, Farley; 2139, Dunn; 2140, Dunn; 2141, Olson; 2142, Harris; 2143, Burzynski; 2144, Pullen; and 2145, Parcells."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Matijevich, on the Resolutions."

Matijevich

"Speaker, these have all been examined, I move the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."

Speaker Madigan

"Those in favor of the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions, say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Mr. Lang, for a Motion." 30 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 11, 1992 154th Legislative Day

Lang

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Relative to Senate Bill 1903, I have filed a Consent Calendar Objection. At this time, I move to withdraw my objection and restore it to the Consent Calendar, Third Reading, First Day."

Speaker Madigan

"Is there leave for that Motion? Leave is granted, using the Attendance Roll Call. Mr. Clerk, on the Consent Calendar, Third Reading. Consent Calendar, Third Reading, read the Consent Calendar."

O'Brien

"Consent Calendar, Third Reading, Second Day, Senate Bill 1523, a Bill for an Act to amend the Probate Act. Senate Bill 1532, a Bill for an Act in relation to compensation for certain veterans. Senate Bill 1533, a Bill for an Act in relation to health insurance and prescription drugs. Senate Bill 1548, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Senate Bill 1581, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Senate Bill 1585, a Bill for an Act to amend the Northeastern Illinois Planning Act. Senate Bill 1624, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Senate Bill 1648, a Bill for an Act to amend the Juvenile Court Act. Senate Bill 1678, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act. Senate Bill 1683, a Bill for an Act to amend the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District Act. Senate Bill 1684, a Bill for an Act to amend the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District Act. Senate Bill 1699, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Senate Bill 1720, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Senate Bill 1747, a Bill for an Act in relation to non-resident contractors. Senate Bill 1760, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. Senate Bill 1779, a Bill for an Act authorizing the establishment of Adopt-A-Highway programs. 31 154th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 11, 1992 Senate Bill 1793, a Bill for an Act to amend the Legislative Commission Reorganization Act. Senate Bill 1808, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Senate Bill 1860, a Bill for an Act to amend the Displaced Homemakers Assistance Act. Senate Bill 1861, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Senate Bill 1899, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Finance Act. Senate Bill 1902 was passed previously. Senate Bill 1904, a Bill for an Act to release easements, restore access rights and convey property rights for certain described lands. Senate Bill 1914 a Bill for an Act concerning the conveyance of certain real property. Senate Bill 1926, a Bill for an Act to amend the Uniform Commercial Code. Senate Bill 1936, a Bill for an Act to amend the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District Act. Senate Bill 1944, a Bill for an Act to amend the Governmental Joint Purchasing Act. Senate Bill 1980, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Senate Bill 1998, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Community College Act. Senate Bill 2111, a Bill for an Act to amend The School Code. Senate Bill 2119, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Accounting Act. Senate Bill 2128, a Bill for an Act to amend the Alton Lake Heritage Parkway Law. Senate Bill 2141, a Bill for an Act to amend the Nursing Home Care Act. Senate Bill 2153, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Senate Bill 2161, a Bill for an Act in relation to the improvement of literacy and basic skills. Senate Bill 2165, a Bill for an Act in relation to Secretary of State evidence fund. Senate Bill 2166, a Bill for an Act to amend the Secretary of State Merit Employment Code. Senate Bill 2190 was removed from the Consent Calendar. Senate Bill 1903, a 32 154th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 11, 1992 Bill for an Act to amend the State Finance Act. Senate Bill 2191, a Bill for an Act to amend the Office of Consumer Services Information Act. Senate Bill 2192, a Bill for an Act to amend the Legislative Reference Bureau Act. Senate Bill 2217, a Bill for an Act concerning educational service region funds. Third Reading of these Bills."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Clerk, have any Bills been removed from the Consent Calendar? Yes, Mr. Clerk."

O'Brien

"Senate Bill 2190, has been removed, and Senate Bill 1902 was adopted previously."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Lang."

Lang

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, inquiry of the Clerk. Can we determine what Amendments, if any, have been added to Senate Bill 1585?"

O'Brien

"Senate Bill 1585 has no Amendments adopted."

Speaker Madigan

"The question is, 'Shall these Bills pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 115 people voting 'aye', no one voting 'no'. These Bills, having received a Constitutional Majority, are hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Representative Deets for the purpose of a Motion. Mr. Clerk."

Deets

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I move the appropriate Motion to file a...for Immediate Consideration, House Joint Resolution 141."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Clerk, do we have a copy of that Resolution, HJR 141? Mr. Clerk, is there anything further? Mr. Lang, for the purpose of a Motion. Mr. Deets, we'll come back to your matter at a later time. Mr. Lang, for a 33 154th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 11, 1992 Motion, on Senate Bill 1779."

Lang

"Take the Motion out of the record."

Speaker Madigan

"All right. The Gentleman requests that his Motion, relative to Senate Bill 1779, be taken out of the record. The Chair recognizes Mr. McGuire for the purpose of a Motion on Senate Bill 1904."

McGuire

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to make the same Motion that the previous speaker, Mr. Lang, made to take the Bill out of the record, 1904."

Speaker Madigan

"I believe you may wanna move to reconsider."

McGuire

"Reconsider, yes. We have a couple of Amendments that we weren't aware of that it was coming up."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentleman moves to reconsider the vote by which Senate Bill 1904 passed. On that Motion, the Chair recognizes Mr. Black."

Black

"Yes, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker...I believe this Bill should have been amended, and we forgot to do so. So, I would support the Gentleman's Motion to reconsider the vote on this Bill, bring it back for the proper Amendments, and, perhaps, be reconsidered at that time."

Speaker Madigan

"You've all heard the Motion. Is there a request for leave? Leave is granted, using the Attendance Roll Call, and the vote by which that Bill passed, is hereby reconsidered. Is there anything further, Mr. Clerk? Anything further, Mr. Clerk? Providing Perfunctory Time for the Clerk to read committee reports, Mr. McPike moves that the House stand adjourned until June 16, at 12:00 noon. Mr. Black."

Black

"Yes, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I also need to rise on a Motion to reconsider the vote on Senate Bill 1585, which also needs to be amended and was not."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentleman moves to reconsider the vote by 34 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day June 11, 1992 which Senate Bill 1585 passed. Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' gave it. For what purpose does Mr. Lang seek recognition? Mr. Lang."

Lang

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, bear with me one second. Mr. Speaker, we would object to this. The Amendment that they want to put on this Bill has fee increases, and we would be opposed."

Black

"Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Black."

Black

"If you'll bear with me, I think the fee increase was not statewide, and I was under the understanding that this was an Agreed Amendment. This is a fee increase for a particular planning commission, nothing to do with the state budget. If it isn't an Agreed Amendment, then I've been misinformed, and I'll withdraw my Motion."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Lang."

Lang

"I would recommend that Mr. Black put his Motion on file, and we'll take a look at this beginning of the week, and if it's agreed, we'll let it go."

Black

"All right, that fine. Thank you."

Lang

"Thank you."

Speaker Madigan

"So, providing Perfunctory Time for Mr. Black to Clerk file his Motion and for committee reports, Mr. McPike has moved that the House do stand adjourned until Tuesday at 12:00 noon. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', all those opposed by saying 'no'. The House does stand adjourned until Tuesday at 12:00 noon."

McLennand

"Committee Reports. Report, offered by Representative Hartke, Chairman from the Committee on Counties and Townships, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken on June 10, 1992: 'do pass as amended Consent Calendar' Senate Bill 2049. Report, 35 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day June 11, 1992 offered by Representative Levin, Chairman from the Committee on Public Utilities, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken on June 10, 1992, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass Short Debate' Senate Bill 1943. Committee report, offered by Representative Homer, Chairman from the Committee on Judiciary II, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken on June 10, 1992, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass as amended Short Debate' Senate Bill 1555. Report, offered by Representative Shaw, Chairman from the Committee on Constitutional Officers, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken on June 10, 1992, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass Short Debate' Senate Bill 1934; 'do pass as amended Consent Calendar' Senate Bill 2053. Committee Report, offered by Representative Brunsvold, Chairman from the committee on Municipal and Conservation Law, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken on June 10, 1992, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' Senate Bills 1862, 2091, 2098 and 2101; 'do pass as amended' Senate Bills 1955 and 2200; 'do pass Short Debate' Senate Bills 1591 and 1776; 'do pass as amended Short Debate' Senate Bills 1508, 1550, 1625 and 1754; and 'do adopt' House Joint Resolution 92. Committee report, offered by Representative McGann, Chairman from the Committee on Appropriations Education, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken on June 10, 1992, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' Senate Bills 1607, 1840, 1845, 1849 and 1850; 'do pass as amended' Senate Bills 1841, 1842, 1843, 1844 and 1847. Committee Report, offered by 36 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day June 11, 1992 Representative Wolf, Chairman from the Committee on Personnel and Pensions, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken on June 11, 1992, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass as amended' Senate Bill 1770. Report, offered by Representative Preston, Chairman from the Committee on Children and Family Law, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken on June 11, 1992, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass as amended' Senate Bill 400; 'do pass Consent Calendar' Senate Bill 2062, and 'do pass as amended Consent Calendar' Senate Bill 1622. Committee report, offered by Representative Mulcahey, Chairman from the Committee on Elementary and Secondary Education, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken on June 11, 1992, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' Senate Bill 2218; 'do pass as amended' Senate Bill 969; 'do pass as amended Short Debate' Senate Bill 1554; 'do adopt' House Resolution 1747; and tabled in committee Senate Bill 2110. Committee report, offered by Representative John Dunn, Chairman from the Committee on Judiciary I, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken on June 11, 1992, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass as amended' Senate Bills 2233 and Senate Bill 1986; 'do pass Short Debate' Senate Bill 1708. Committee Report, offered by Representative Currie, Chairman from the Committee on Revenue, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken on June 11, 1992, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' Senate Bills 1743, 1950,1949, 1518, 1935, 1956, 1556, 1479, 1816, 1832 and 1825; 'do pass as amended' Senate Bills 2162, 1665, 2048, 1796, 2051, 37 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 154th Legislative Day June 11, 1992 1490, 1606, 2100 and 2135. 'Do pass Consent Calendar' Senate Bills 1590, 1547, 1641, 1643 and 1940. Committee Report, offered by Representative Saltsman, Chairman from the Committee on Executive, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken on June 11, 1992, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' Senate Bills 1486 and 2104; 'do pass as amended' Senate Bills 1685 and 1983; 'do pass Short Debate' Senate Bills 1937, 2093, 2097, 2151 and 2197. 'Do pass as amended Short Debate' Senate Bills 1531, 1722, 1787, 1910 and 1912. 'Do adopt' Senate Joint Resolution 113 and Senate Joint Resolution 157. No further business, the House stands adjourned until Tuesday, June 16th at (12:00) noon. 38 REPORT: TIFLDAY PAGE: 001 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX JUNE 11, 1992 92/09/29 14:21:32 SB-0460 RECALLED PAGE 28 SB-0460 THIRD READING PAGE 29 SB-1585 THIRD READING PAGE 33 SB-1585 MOTION PAGE 34 SB-1628 MOTION PAGE 8 SB-1779 MOTION PAGE 33 SB-1779 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 34 SB-1783 THIRD READING PAGE 18 SB-1902 RECALLED PAGE 17 SB-1902 THIRD READING PAGE 18 SB-1903 MOTION PAGE 31 SB-1904 MOTION PAGE 34 SB-1908 MOTION PAGE 3 SB-1908 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 5 SB-1964 THIRD READING PAGE 26 SB-2039 MOTION PAGE 6 SB-2155 THIRD READING PAGE 25 SB-2164 MOTION PAGE 23 SB-2164 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 25 SB-2167 THIRD READING PAGE 16 SB-2177 MOTION PAGE 5 SB-2183 MOTION PAGE 11 SB-2190 DISCUSSED PAGE 33 SB-2229 MOTION PAGE 14 SB-2229 MOTION PAGE 19 SB-2229 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 15 SJR-0174 ADOPTED PAGE 30 SJR-0174 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 30 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER SPEAKER MADIGAN PAGE 1 PRAYER REVEREND NORMAN CULLUMBER PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 2 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 30 CONSENT CALENDAR THIRD READING PAGE 31 ADJOURNED PAGE 35 PERFUNCTORY SESSION PAGE 35 COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 35 PERFUNCTORY SESSION ADJOURNED PAGE 38