Speaker Steczo: S'Representative Skinner. Representative Skinner.'' Skinner: ''Mr. Speaker...Mr. Speaker, I would ask if the Bill has been printed and distributed...that is. the Amendment? don't have a copy.'' Speaker Steczo: ''Mr. Clerk.'' Skinner: ''I have another question, and that is, how is this germane to the Special Session. How can the passage of a 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE FIRST SPECIAL SESSION 2nd Legislative Day September 1993 Constitutional Alnendment November of 1994 have anything to do with opening schools 1993 the City of Chicago . '' Speaker Steczo: ''The Chair has ruled: believe in the past, that this falls within the purview of the governor's ca11.'' Skinner: ''I would just like to ask you to verbalize why. I think would be really humorous.'' Speaker Steczo: ''I believe that if you listened to the Sponsor give the introductory remarks...'' Skinner: ''She is not the Chair...at least at this point she isn't, or even the Speaker.'' Speaker Steczo: ''The governor's call indicates that quote, 'or any other legislation, new Bill or pending, which will address the ability of the Chicaqo public schools to open promptly'.'' Skinner: ''How that...how does that help...'' Speaker Steczo: ''The Chair rules it's within the order of the Ca.11 .'' Skinner: ''The Chair continues to amaze me. How about the... how about the printing of the...Amendment. Perhaps you ask the assistant chief Page if he's qotten it.'' Speaker Steczo: ''Mr. Skinner, your question related to the printing of the Constitutional Amendment itself...'' Skinner: ''And the distribution of it.'' Speaker Steczo: ''...and distribution. The rules indicate that the distribution...printing and distribution takes place prior to the actual vote on the matter itself, and when it's before the Body. Riqht now, it's before the Committee on Executive. The purpose of this Motion is to bring to the floor, so can be printed and distributed and given to the Membership. Representative Kubik.'' Kubik: ''Mr. Speaker...'' 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE FIRST SPECIAL SESSION 2nd Legislative Day September 1993 Speaker Steczo: ''Mr. Kubik, Mr. Kubik, before you proceed, please turn on Representative Skinner one more time.f' Skinner: t'Mr. Speaker, I wish to speak to the question . f' Speaker Steczo: ''Proceed.'' Skinner: ''We don 't have a eopy of it, but I have it virtually memorized from last time around. I've also analyzed the election statistics, and find only 38% of the people voting in the fall election voted for the Constitutional Amendment last year. Only 38%. Check the figures. If you look at the number voting on the question, was the figure Representative Currie used, but only 38% of the people in the State of Illinois voted for this Constitutional...'' Speaker Steczo: ''Representative Skinner, please bring your remarks close, please.'' Skinner: ''How much tilne do I have? Five minutes?'' Speaker Steczo: ''You had five. It's expired.'' Skinner: ''You used most of it. would suggest this was a significant constitutional question last year. It deserves Committee consideration. In my county, it did not get a majority of anything, even those voting on the question, and I'm sure that people would like to come and testify as to whether we ouqht to double the state income tax in order to implement this Constitutional Amendment. That discussion should be allowed to the citizens of the State of Illinois, not just to the Legislators of the State of Illinois. Thank you...I...and I still...'' Speaker Steczo: ''The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook, Representative Davis. Representative Davis.n Davis: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. do believe this issue is important enough to be addressed during this Special 11 STPTZS 0P ILLINOIS 8tl:''' GENERAL ASSEMBLY H0r'21:OF REPRESENTATIVES ' 9SCRIPTION DEBATE F'.RST SPECIAL SESSION 2nd Legislative Day September 1993 Sessionr beeause it certainly is germane. However, Mr. Speaker, rose in order to say to my colleague, Mr. Black, that I woul: hope that he was not speaking for the governor when he said he didn't give a damn about Chicago public schools an8 whether they opened or not. I hope he is not speaking for the Republican Party When he says he doesn't qive a damn whether the Chicaqo public schools open or not. These are children who belong to this state. Theyfre not foreigners. Their parents pay...play the lottery that support his schools, and he should care. I'm simply appalled when I hear this kind of hatred, this kind of ignoranee on the House floor of the State of Illinois, and those of us who are from Chicago will accept his apology when he decides to make it. Thank you, speaker.'' Speaker Steczo; ''Representative Black.'' Black: ''Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. And a11 of this from a Representative who attacked a Member on this side of the aisle last year for trying to eliminate some holidays and keep kids in schools longer. Remember what you said last year, Representative? And what you called Representative Cowlishaw? Then you got tnto it With a Member on your own side of the aisle over the word holocaust, and one of your-- one of your Resolutions. So now, I guess it's my turn to feel your wrath. Well, let me just assure you, Representative Davis, after 22 years as a teacher, there isn't anybody down here who cares more about kids than do. See, I voted for this Constitutional Amendment the first time around, and cost me some grievous embarrassment at that time as well, but I voted for and I didn't change my vote, and I wasn't verified off, and I'm going to vote for it again if that's what takes. But 12 STATE OP ILLINOIS 88th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE PIRST SPECIAL SESSION 2nd Legislative Day September 1993 let me answer you, I don't speak for the qovernor. I don't speaker for the Republican Party of the State of Illinois, and don't speak for the colleagues over here on my side of the aisle. I was speaking for me. Let me...let me be very blunt and direct to you, my anger was directed, and you of a11 people, to defend, you of a11 people who takes offense as much as I do over the heavy handedness of the Chair when it's aimed at you, and we could pull transcripts when you have berated the Chair for failing to protect your rights, but it's different when they don't want to protect the rules on our side of the aisle, isndt it? It's different, isn't it? Much different when the rules affect you and you show your anger time after time on the floor, but I guess we're not supposed show our anger over your party's repeated, repeated attempts at manipulating the rules in any way they see You could have changed all in 15 minutes. You could have reconvened the Rules Committee, reconvened the Committee on Assignment, had this printed and put back on the desk, and everything would have been aeeordance with the rules in less than 30 minutes. I don't know why your side persists in doing this. really don't. But to anyone who would misinterpret my remarks, let me apologize for a poor choice of words. Yes, I care if the Chicago schools don't open. care about 400,000 kids. That's why I'm here. Your party controls the agenda. Wedve now been here two days. What have we done for the children of Chicago? What have we done for the children of Chieago? Wedre gonna vote on this Amendment that won't help the Chicago schools in one iota, that the people of this state have already voted on, supported, voted for in opposition to my own governor and 13 STATE OP ILLINOIS 88th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE PIRST SPECIAL SESSION 2nd Legislative Day September 1993 my own party, but it only got 57% of the vote. Now, the people in Chicago tell you that this isn't going to do any good. They've got to have something done by Monday. This Friday. Here I am. I'm willing to work With you, but you would rather use my unfortunate, and it's my fault, 1'11 take the responsibility, my outburst. You would rather make some public statement of that when you: Madam , have ranted and raved at the Chair just as much as when you have felt your rights were violated. Well, 1et me tell you something, if you won't protect my rights, then don't ever, ever say another word on this House floor when your rights are violated, because if we don't stand toqether and try to see that this place runs in accordanee with the rules, then none of us have any rights, and that's why get upset, and if you would join with me, instead of always to denigrate anybody on this side of the aisle who doesn't see things just exactly the way you do. maybe we could qet something accomplished for the City of Chicago. And my question to you, Representative, wedve been here two days: havendt seen a Bill with your name on it, I haven't seen a Resolution with your name on it, and I've heard nothin: from you but criticism. Where is your ideas for the people and the students on the City of Chicago. Put something up there, and let's vote on it.'' Speaker Steczo: ''The Chair recognizes Representative Kubik. Kubik.'' Kubik: ''Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I...we now have a copy of this Resolution on our desk: and all would ask the Sponsor is that, you know, recognize that the discharge has nothing to do the issue. However, couldn't we at least bave an opportunity to look at this for ten minutes 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE 0!2 REPRESENTA'*VES Tk 'kSCRIPTION DEBA'LE FIHS'1' SPECIAL SESSION 2nd Legislative Day September 3, 1993 and vote on 1 mean, I understand that the diseharge had nothing to do with the substance of the Bil1# but that takes place within the confines of a Regular Session, when Bills have been around for a little while, and everybody has a chance to look at them. We just got this thing on our desk. I don't know how it compares with the previous Constitutional Amendment, but 1, you know, don't have anythinq to compare With. would argue to you , Representative, that this is slightly different. This Resolution or this Constitutional Amendment was introduced yesterday. We didn't know We thought it was going to go to the Rules Committee. It did not go to the Rules Committee. Incidentally, Tony, I'm sure you didn't make a mkstake, but be that as it may, thks thing is now on our desks, we haven't had an opportunity to look at it. don't feel that it's fair to vote on this issue until we have 10 or 15 minutes to at least look at it# compare it with the previous Constitutional Amendment to see if is the same, and then...and then if you want to run your discharge, fine, but tell you, think it's just unfair to expect Members of this chamber to simply vote on an issue, and had we rammed this vote through, we wouldn't even have the Resolution on our desk, but since Representative Skinner raised the issuer we now have the Resolution on our desk. Let's take a look at this thing . If...if you're interest a...a considered judgement of an important issue, which I think it is# then we ought to take a moment, look at this issue, then every Member can make an informed decision on whether this issue ought to be discharged and then we can move on: but I would ask that of you Representative.'' 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE FIRST SPECIAL SESSION 2nd Leqislative Day September 3: 1993 Speaker Steczo: ''The Chair recognizes Representative Parkeo'' Parke: ''Thank you: Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. wil! the Sponsor of this Resolution yield for a question.'' Speaker Steczo: ''She indicates that she will.'' Parke: ''Thank you. Representative Currie, it's my understanding from what you just said a little while ago that you're interested having debated on the floor of the House as a Body of the whole, is that true?'' Currie: ''After this Motion, if the Motion succeeds. Will offer another Motion that would establish a Colœnittee of the Whole to consider this Amendment.'' Parke: ''When would this Committee of the Whole, your opinion III*QhE?îî Currie: would hope that we'd plan to do this when we come back next week.'' Parke: ''So, therefore, then we'll have a debate...what ultimately would you like to accomplish with this debate? What would be your purpose for the debate?'' Currie: ''We1l, my purpose in being one of the Sponsors of this proposed Constitutional Amendment is to offer the opportunity, a second opportunity to the citizens of the State of Illinois, a seeond opportunity to change our Illinois Constitution so that we can quarantee adequate and equitable funding for the education of our youngsters in public schools from Cairo to Chicago.'' Parke: ''Thank you. To the questiony that's what I was Worried about. Ladies and Gentlemen, I will just point out to you, that this was defeated by the people of the State of Illinois. It was defeated. They said they did not want to spend this kind of additional money. It estimated that STATE OF ILLINOIS 88th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE FIRST SPECIAL SESSION 2nd Legislative Day September 1993 will cost the people of Illinois between $1.5 billion to $2.9 billion in additional revenue, which mean that it would take tbe income tax, if that Was the funding source, and take it from 3% to 5 or 6%. If you vote for this today, you are asking for a big tax increase. I would like to see everybody voting for this...'' Speaker Steczo: ''For what purpose does the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Lan: seek recognition? Mr. Lang...Mr. SZR6)*'î Lang: ''Mr. Speaker...Mr. Speaker, have a point of order.'' Speaker Steczo: ''Yes, Mr. Lang, proceed.'' Lang: ''This is about the third speaker on this floor that is not speaking to the question. The question is a Motion to discharge Committee, not about income taxes, not about even education. This a Motion to discharge Committee, and I would request that the Chair would demand that Members stick to that point at this time.'' Speaker Steczo: ''The Gentleman's point is well taken. We shall keep remarks to the Motion itself. Mr. Parke, did you have one more question?'' Parke: ''Thank you. lf this...if this vote does go up# I would like electronic verification of the roll eall so that we can look at it later on.'' Speaker Steczo; ''The Chair recognizes Mr. Wennlund.'' Wennlund: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Pursuant to Rule 55, and I'm joined by Representative Black, Representative Rydery Representative Churchill, Representative Parke, in requesting a record vote on the Motion.'' Speaker Steezo : ''Mr. Wennlund, there will be a record vote on the Motion.'' Wennlund; ''Thank you.'' 17 S'PATE OF ILLINOIS 88th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OP REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE FIRST SPECIAL SESSION ' 2nd Legislative Day September 3, 1993 Speaker Steczo: ''Is there another...any other Members seeking recognition? Representative Davis, you already spoke in debate. The Lady has moved to discharge the Committee on Executive and place House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #1 on the Order of Second Reading. A11 those in favor of the Motion will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this Motion, there are 71 votin: 'yes', 44 voting 'no'# voting 'present'. Mr. Wennlund, do you persist in a verification? Mr. Parke? On this roll call, there are 71 voting dyes', 44 voting 'noî, and the Motion prevails. Mr. Clerk, please read the Resolution.'' Clerk Rossi: ''House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #l. RESOLVED, BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE EIGHTY-EIGHTH GENERAL ASSEMBLY 0F THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, THE SENATE CONCURRING HEREIN, That there shall be submitted to the electors of the State for adoption or rejection at the general election next occurring at least 6 months after the adoption of this resolution a proposition to amend Section 1 of Article X of the Illinois Constitution as follows: ARTICLE X EDUCATION SECTION 1. FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT 6eAB FREE SCHOOLS A fundamental right goal of the People of the State the educational development of all persons the limits of their capacities. It is the paramount duty îé the State :9 shalè provide for + an thorough and efficient system of high quality public educational institutions and services and to guarantee equality of educational opportunity as a fundamental right of each citizen. Education in public schools through the secondary 18 FYTT .. , .. ' -.>.X. To . ''..2*?' .-21 : . .. . .. : - R .' >' .a .TION D. EBATE SPIRCIAL SESSION 2nd Legislative Day September 1993 level shall be The State has the preponderant financial responsib àlitv for financing the system of public education. 'Phere may be such other free education as the General Assembly orovides by law. The-seaEe-has-Ehe-primary tespensibility---for---finaneinq---the---system--of--pubiie edueaEionm (Source' lllinois Constitution.) SCHEDULE This Constitutional Amendment takes effect upon approval by the electors of this State. Second Reading of this House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment 41.'' Speaker Steczo: ''Mr. Cn werk, are there any further Motions regarding this Resolutàon?'' Clerk Rossi: ''Representative Currie has filed a Motion that would provide that the Special Session House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment be committed to the House acting as a Committee as a Whole.'' Speaker Steczo : ''The Lady from Cook, Representative Currie, on the Motion.'' Currie: ''Thank you, Speaker. offer this Motiony because I think it important for the Members of this Assembly to have the chance to hear witnesses on the question whether this proposed Amendment makes sense for us to offer the voters. We can do that in the context and confines of this Special Session. In fact, should this Motion succeed, We will set a hearing of the Committee of the Whole on the question of this Amendment next Thursday: when we are expected baek in Springfield to continue our Special Session. We will set that time at the hour of 10:00 a.m. Our Session is expected to begin at noon. I appreciate the concern that Representative Ryder expressed that Committees ought to have an opportunity to consider language like this. think that that point is Well taken, but think 19 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 88th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE FIRST SPECIAL SESSION 2nd Leg kslatkve Day September l993 it 's particularly well taken if we do so in a context that means a11 the Members of tl4e House have an opportunity to hear from witnesses , have an opportunity to consider ramifications, have an opportunity to consider what happened the last time this Amendment went before the voters a November election . So# I 'd appreciate your support for this proposal that constitute ourselves as Committee of the Whole , and as I say, the schedule would call for a Committee hearing next Thursday , the day we expect to reconvene in Springfield , at the hour of 10 :00 a .m . I'd be happy to answer your questions, and would appreciate your support for the Motion.f' Speaker Steczo : ''The Chair recognizes Representative Ryder .'' Ryder: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Inquiry of the Chair, please . Is this Motion in writing?'' Speaker Steczo : ''The Clerk informs the Chair the Motion is writing .'' Ryder: am look ing at the Calendar for today 's business , has there been a Supplemental Calendar circulated?'' S'peaker Steczo : ''No . '' Ryder : ''Tbe only Motion that I see is to discharqe the Committee on Executive . I don 't see any other Motions relating to thi.s issue on the Calendar . Have you fa iled to supply us with a Calendar with that Motion , Mr . Speaker?'' Speaker Steezo : ''Mr . Ryder, has always been a custom of this House that during the course of the discussions and deliberations of a Bi11, we deal with all Motions that are fi1ed to that Bi11...'' Ryder : ''Customs , Mr . Speaker? You can 't even come up with a Rule that allows you to steamroll some grandstand effort . talk ing about next Thursday when the k ids from Chicago 20 STATE OP ILLINOIS 88th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE PIRST SPZCIKL SESSION 2nd Legkslatkve Day September k993 aren't able to start school this week? This is the best idea that the best and the brightest on your side can eome up with? This is what's going to solve Chicago schools? And you%re tellin: me a custom? Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, what Rule allows the Motion before the Body to be heard at this time, when it was not on the Calendar for today's business?'' Speaker Steezo: ''Mr. Ryder, in response: just as Motions to table and other Motions that we deal with and practice custom happen at the same time the Bill being considered so, too, this Motion falls in those same categories.'' Ryder: ''What Rule, Mr. Speaker. what Rule allows that to take place? I ean't believe...l just ean't believe that this is the best that you can do...'' Speaker Steezo: ''While the Bill is being considered, Mr. Ryder. we deal with a1l Motions.'' Ryder: ''A referendum in November of 1994, and we can't even :et the Rules together to :et it done now? That's it?f' Speaker Steczo: $'Mr. Wennlund.n Ryder: ''Mr. Speaker, please...what rule allows the...'' Speaker Steczo: ''Representative Wennlund.'' Wennlund: ''Tbank you, Mr. Speaker. Parliamentary inquiry. don't believe this Motion is in order: because the only way an issue can appear before a Committee of the Whole in accordance with Rule 33, which provides three alternate methods. Number one, the Speaker ean lay before a Committee of the Whole. Number two, Rules can tay before a Con% ittee of the whole, or number three, the Committee on Assignment can, but it is not permitted to be considered by a Committee on the Whole by a Member...a Motion of a Member of this Body. There is no authority a 21 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OP REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE PIRST SPECIAL SESSION 2nd Leqislative Day September 1993 Motion to be made to have a Bill or Resolution considered by a Committee of the Whole. It is simply out of order, and the Speaker Wants to do it, 1et the Speaker do it, but just comply with the Rules.'' Speaker Steczo: ''Representative Currie.'' Currie: ''Speaker and Representative Wennlund, if you look at House Rule 33 on the assignment of Billsz under 33(f), once a Bill or Resolution is assigned to a Committee by the Committee on Assignment, it may be reassigned by the Cola ittee on Assignment or by Motion adopted by a vote of 60 Members at any time, but what we are engaged in herer is a Bill that has been discharged from one Committee is belng reassigned to another. That Committee is the Committee of the Whole. Seems to me the Rule is clear, and I don't see any problem with the Motion that we've made.'' Speaker Steczo: ''Mr. Wennlund, in response to your question as well, the Rule that you stipulated are not limitations, and please be informed that in addition to those 'Robert's Rules of Order', also specifies with relation to going to a Colnmittee of the Wholey that the Motion to go to a Committee of the Whole is a form of a Motion to commit. So, since the Resolution is on Second Reading, we are movinq to commit this back to the Committee of the Whole. Are there any further discussions? Representative Kubik.'' Kubik: ''Parliamentary inquiry of the Chair. Is the Committee of the Whole a standing Committee?'' Speaker Steczo: ''The Committee of the Whole is not a standing Committee.'' Kubik: ''Well# not a standing Committee, Mr. Speaker, then the Committee of the Whole has to be created and, therefore, cannot be committed...a Bill can't be 22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE 0F REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE FIRST SPECIAL SESSION 2nd Legislative Day September 1993 committed until a Committee is created, and the only way that it can be created is that- .what Representative Wennlund has outlined an earlier speech to the House, so you're asking us to commit a Bill to a Committee that hasn't been created. Now, don't know what your ingenious way of getting out of this one is, but please, don't blame Tony this time.'' Speaker Steezo: ''Mr. Rubik: 'Robert's Rules of Order' specifically says, the Motion to go into a Committee of the Whole, is a form of the Motkon to commit. So , implied that thls Motion does exactly what 'Robert's Rules of Order' provides for. there any further discussion? There being none, the question 'Shall this...it be adopted?' Al1 those in favor will signify by voting faye', those opposed by voting 'no'. The voting is open. Have voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question: there are 70 voting 'yes', 46 voting 'no', voting 'present', and the Motion prevails. Messages from the Senate.'' Clerk Rossi: 1'A Message from the Senate by Mr. Harry: Secretary. 'Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has concurred with the House of Representatives in the passage of a Bill of the following title, to wit: House Bill 242: a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code by changing Sections 29-3 and 29-5.2: together with the attached Amendment, thereto, which Amendment has been printed by the Senate tn the adoption of which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the House, Senate Amendment #2 to House Bi11 242, passed the Senate as amended, September 1993, by a 23 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPT-CN DEBATE FIRST SPECIAL SESSION 2nd Legislative Day September 1993 three-fifths vote. Jim Harry, Secretary.''' Speaker Steczo: ''Committee Reports.'' Clerk Rossi: ''The Committee on Rules has met: and pursuant to Rule l4(a)5, House Bills amended in the Senate, recommends consideration and the Bill will be placed on the Order of Concurrence, House Bill 242, signed by Frank Giglio, Chairmarn '' Speaker Steczo: ''Supplelnental Calendar announcement.l'
I'Supplemental Calendar #1 is being distributed.'' Speaker Steczo: ''Supplemental Calendar #l, appears House Bill 242, the Chair recognized Representative Wennlund for the purposes of a Motion.'' Wennlund: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to suspend the applicable Calendar requirement of Rule with respect to this House Bi1l...to Senate Amendment 42 to House Bill Speaker Steczo: ''You've heard the Gentleman's Motion. Is there leave? There being no objection, leave is granted. On the Order of Concurrence: appears House Bill 242, Representative Wennlund.'' Wennlund: d'Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 242 will allow the Chicago public sehools to open on time: and it provides that from the period of September lst to September 12th, the following temporary provisions will apply to the Chicago Board of Education. Number one, it exempts the Board from the requirement that it operates schools with a balanced budqet approved by the School Finance Authority, which will allow them to open the school: so that kids, on the 8th of September will, indeed, be able to enter the elassroom. It places a hiring freeze on the Board and their offices and employees, the general 24 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OP REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE FIRST SPECIAL SESSION 2nd Legislative Day September 1993 superintendent and school councils during this collective barqaining process. This hiring freeze isn't meant to prevent the Board from hiring temporary people like substitute teachers. It just allows everything to stay in place during this period from September lst to September 12th. It also exempts the Board from the unfair labor practices provision under the Educational Labor Relations Act during this period of time only, and requires the Board to adopt and interim budget to authorize expenditures that are assoeiated with opening the schools and hiring substitute teachers durin: this period of 12 days. It also requires the Board to adopt this interim budget and provide for the expenditures that are necessary during this day period of time. So, what this does, it creates a 12 day window to allow the Chicago Teacher's Union and the Chicago School Board to continue their negotiations and, hopefully, arrive at an agreement during this time period, and it will allow 411,000 school children to reenter the classroom in the fall, and I ask for its favorable adoption, of the Motion to concur in Senate Amendment #2.'. Speaker Steczo: ''The Gentleman has moved that the House concur with Senate Amendment.n senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 242. On that question, is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook, Representative Currie.'' Currie: ''Tbank you: Speaker and Members of the House. toov rise in support of the concurrence Motion with respect to this Senate Amendment. think there are some concerns aboue the language of the Amendment. uncertainty as to whether appointments and promotions might happen, because the Amendment is not drafted as specifically with as much elarity as the Chicago Board of Education requested, and 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OP REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE FIRST SPECIAL SESSION 2nd Legislative Day September 1993 there may be some concerns about the Board's ability to hire substitutes during this period, so as to make sure that there are not classrooms that are standing without teaching personnel. The governorls office feel quite confident, however, that tbat situation will not develop, and think that there is reason to have confidence in the qovernor's confidence. think this breathing space that is proposed by virtue of permitting the schools to open will be helpful in terms of encouraging continued talks between the Chicago Teacher's Union and the Chicago Board of Edueation. think will help us as we resolve the larger questions about bondin: and about filling whatever fiscal qaps will remain: no matter the outcome of those talks. We're scheduled come baek next Thursday. I'm hopeful that we can resolve a11 the questions that are ours to resolve as quickly as Thursday takes us, and in the mean time, think tbis legislative action means that we have held faith...kept faith with the parents and the school ehildren the City of Chicago that it is not the state statutes which bar the opportunity for the Board and the Union to open school doors next Wednesday. I support the Motion to concur.'' Speaker Steczo: ''Is there any further discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Levin . '' Levin: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I intend to vote for this eoncurrence, because we came down here to ensure that the Chicago schools open, but I got to tell you, as a parent of a child in the Chicago public schools, this approach is almost worse than not opening the schools. If you don't open the schools, at least the parents are in a position to be able to plan for 26 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE FIRST SPECIAL SESSION 2nd Legislative Day September 1993 what they're going to do in the interim. What we have here is a situation where schools are going to open one day, and they may close again the next day. And from the point of view the parents kn Chicago, thks could be a worse solution that not opening at all, but we came down here to keep the schools open, and intend to support this measure in the hope that we will a quick Resolution, and we will not have the situation where theysre open one day and then elosed the next, but it is clearly not a perfect solution to this 13UCbiCZ *î' Speaker Steczo: ''The Chair reeognizes the Gentleman from Jersey, Representative Ryder.'' Ryder: ''Thank you, Speaker. I move the previous question.'' Speaker Steczo: ''Representative Ryder has move the previous question. The question 'Shall the main question be put?' A11 those in favor will signify by saying 'aye', those opposed by saying 'no '. The 'ayes' have it, and the previous question is put. Representative Wennlund to elose.'' Wennlund: ''Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. ask for your concurrenee in this Motion to concur in Senate Amendment #2, allowing the Chicaqo public schools to open on time, and get the kids back in the classroom, and I move for a favorable adoption. It does have an immediate effective date, and it has to be effective immediately: beeause the schools are slated to open next Thursday...Wednesday, thank you.'' Speaker Steczo: ''The question is, 'Sbal1 the House concur with Senate Amendment 42 to House Bill 242?' All those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. The voting open. The Chair recognizes Representative 27 STATE OP ILLINOIS 88th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE FIRST SPECIAL SESSION 2nd Legislative Day September 1993 Davis to explain her vote.'' Davis: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It was very gracious of you to allow me to speak, and I do appreciate that. My question is# on August 27th, 2,500 people retire under the 5 plus 5 plan, 2,500: about 200 prkncipals. Now: 1 don't know the answer, but 2,300 of those people are teachers: and they can't be replaee, Ifm very fearful of what's goin: to happen in those classrooms. It says they cannot hire anybody to replace those people. Is there an answer? I'm going to vote for this, and I hope havoc is not wreaked upon those children.'' Speaker Steczo: ''Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question. there are 97 voting 'yes': voting 'no', none voting 'present', and the House does concur with Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 242, and this Bill, having received the required three-fifths Constitutional Majority, is hereby deelared passed. For what purpose does the Gentleman from Rock Island, Representative Brunsvold, seek recognition?'' Brunsvold: ''Mr. Speaker, just to remind the Body that on Thursday morning of next week at 10:00 a.m., the Committee of the Whole will meet. As Co-chair of that Committee on Special Session HJRCAI, which is a Constitutional Amendment on Educational Funding language, that Committee of the Whole will meet again at l0:0û a.m. on Thursday morning, and would like everyone to be aware of that, would like as good attendance as possible, discuss the issues of education, and possibly if we had of passed this Constitutional Amendment last year, we wouldn't be here today. So, would urge every one of the Members to put that on their 28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE FIRST SPECIAL SESSION 2nd Legislative Day September 1993 calendar, next Thursday morning at 10:00 a.m. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.'' S'peaker Steczo: ''Mr . Brunsvold, 10:00 a.m. next Thursday here on the House floor, correct. Mr. Clerk, the Adjournment Resolution.'' Clerk Rossi: ''Senate Joint Resolution #l. RESOLVED, BY THE SENATE OF THE EIGHTY-EIGHTH GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE 0F ILLINOIS, AT THE FIRST SPECIAL SESSION THEREOF, THE HOUSE OP REPRESENTATIVES CONCURRING HEREIN, that when the two Houses adjourn on Friday, September 1993: they stand adjourned until Thursday, September 1993, at 12:00 noon. Adopted by the Senate September 1993. Jim Harry, Secretary.'' Speaker Steczo: ''Representative Granberg moves for the adoption the Adjournmenu Resolution. Representative Black, for what purpose do you seek recognition?'' Black: ''Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. The...in the House: we have adjourned to what time next week?' ' Speaker Steczo: ''The Resolution, Mr. Black: calls for the adjournment of the House until noon next Thursday, September the 9th.'' Black: ''Alright. So that there's no confuskon, however, the Committee of the Whole on the Constitutional Amendment, as proposed, meets at 10:00 a.m. on that day, correct? Thank YCL1*î' Speaker Steczo: ''Meets at 10:00 a.m. on September the 9th, which is a Thursday. Representative Granberg moves for the adoption of the Adjournment Resolution. All those in favor will signify by saying 'aye', those opposed by saying 'no '. The 'ayes' have The Adjournment Resolution is adopted. Representative Granberg now moves that the House stand 29 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE FIRST SPECIAL SESSION 2nd Legislative Day September 1993 adjourned until the hour of 12:00, noon on Thursday. Al1 those in favor signify by say 'aye', those opposed by saying 'no '. The 'ayes' have and the House does now stand adjourned.' 30 REPORTI TIFLDAY STATE OF ILLINOI: 93/09/20 PAGE: 00l 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY 09122136 HOUSE QF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION 0F DEBATE INDEX SEPTEMBER 03@ 1993 HB-02#2 CONCORRENCE PAGE 2# QHJR-OQO: MOTIQN PAGE 2 *HJR-OOO: M0T10N PAGE l9 *HJR-OOOI RESBLUTION OFFERED PAGE l8 SJR-OOO: ADOPTED PAGE 29 SJR-BOOI RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 29 SUBJECT HATTER HOUSE T0 ORDER - SPEAKER GIGLIO - tST SP. SESSION PAGE 1 PRAYER - FAKHER JOHN OSSOLA PAGE t PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE l ROLL CALL ATTENOANCE PAGE t REPRESENTATIVE STEEZO IN CHAIR PAGE 2 MESSAGE FROM SENATE PAGE 23 lST SP. SESZION - ADJOURNMENi PAGE 30