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Illinois House Floor Debate — February 15, 1995

89th General Assembly (1995-1996) · Legislative day 17 · Regular Session
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Speaker Black

"The House will be in order. February 15, 1995 Members will please be in their seats. Those persons not authorized to the floor of the House will please retire. We will be led in prayer today by our assistant doorkeeper the Reverend Lee A. Crawford. Reverend Crawford is from the Victory Temple Church of God and Christ. Our guest in the gallery may wish to rise for the invocation. Reverend Crawford."

Reverend Lee A. Crawford

"Let us pray. We lift our eyes up into the hills from with cometh with our help for we know that our health cometh from the Lord. The Lord of Lord and the King of Kings. Lord we stand we thank You this day as we humbly stand before You as men and women before the Lord. You told us in all of our ways to acknowledge You and You will direct our paths. Direct us this day throughout the business that we may do as we acknowledge You as the giver of life, giver of piece, giver of wisdom, and the giver of all, understanding as we humbly say Amen."

Speaker Black

"We will be led in the Pledge of Allegiance today by Representative Woolard."

Woolard et al

Woolard et al: "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Speaker Black

"Roll Call for Attendance. Representative Currie I recognize you to report any excused absences on the Democrat side."

Currie

"Thank you, Speaker. Let the records show that Representatives Kaszak, Laurino, and Martinez are absent today."

Speaker Black

"Thank you very much, the Journal will SO indicate. Representative Cross I recognize you to report and excused absences on the Republican side of the aisle." 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day

Cross

February 15, 1995 "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On the Republican side there are no absences. Thank you."

Speaker Black

"Thank you, Representative. There are 115 Members answering the roll a quorum is present and the House will come to Order. Committee Reports."

Clerk Rossi

"Representative Cowlishaw, Chairman for the committee on Elementary and Secondary Education which the following Bills were referred, action taken on February 15, 1995 reported the same back with the following recommendations the 'do pass as amended' House Bill 545. 'Do pass Short Debate' House Bill 784. Representative Cross, Chairman from the Committee on Judiciary Civil, Law, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken on February 15, 1995 reported the same back with the following recommendations 'do pass Short Debate' House Bill 587 and House Bill 365.

Speaker Black

"Thank you, House Bill Second Reading. Mr. Clerk read House Bill 561, please."

Clerk Rossi

"House Bill 561, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Second Reading of the House Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in committee. No Motions have been filed. Committee Amendments 2 and 3 were referred to subcommittee. Amendments 4 and 5 were referred to rules."

Speaker Black

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, appears House Bill 573. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

Clerk Rossi

"House Bill 573, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. Second Reading of this House Bill. No Committee Amendments. No Floor Amendments."

Speaker Black

"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bill Second Reading, there appears House Bill 632. Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 632" 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995

Clerk Rossi

"House Bill 632, a Bill for the Act to amend the Illinois Funeral and Burial Funds Act. Second Reading of this House Bill. Committee Amendment #1 was adopted in committee. No Motions have been filed a fiscal note has been requested on this Bill."

Speaker Black

"Thank you. A fiscal note has been requested on till House Bill 632 the Bill will remain on Second Reading the note is filed. Yes, for what purpose is the Gentleman from Clinton, Representative Granberg seeking recognition?"

Granberg

"For the purposes for announcement, Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Black

"Yes, state your announcement."

Granberg

"We are privileged today, Ladies and Gentleman of the House, if I may have your attention to honor our Representative Phil Novak on his 55th Birthday. We have cakes over here for everyone. Representative Novak 55th Birthday today we have cakes, please come over and congratulate Representative Novak please."

Speaker Black

"Representative Granberg. Representative Granberg, if we can have some order in the chamber. The Chair heard reference to a celebration and wishing the Gentleman from Kankakee, Representative Novak a happy birthday, I believe you said, his 65th birthday. I'm sorry 55, 55. May I just say you look...for a man your age, Sir your looking at pink, pink of condition today. Yes, the Gentleman from Kankakee, Representative Novak for what reason do you seek recognition?"

Novak

"Well, Speaker first of all I want to make a correction. It's not 55 it's 49, 49. Then when I turn 50 I'm gonna start a new life all over again. I tell you one thing about my good friend and college Representative Granberg. When he was born he came out of the shoot with gray hair on his head." 3 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995

Speaker Black

"We will now proceed the Order of House Bills, Third Reading. Yes, excuse me, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Lang for what purpose do you seek recognition."

Lang

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know that everyone on this floor is interested in truth and sentencing and police on the street accordingly I move a...and I am joined by five people on our side of the aisle that would change the Order of business and go to the Order of Motions immediately. And I would ask for a Roll Call Vote."

Speaker Black

"Yes, Representative Lang did you state the Order...I'm sorry your Motion is...would you repeat you Motion."

Lang

"The Motion Sir, was to go immediately to the Order of Motions to discharge committee and we've asked for a Roll Call Vote, Sir."

Speaker Black

"Ladies and Gentleman of the House the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Lang has moved that we change the Order of Business and proceed now to the Order of Motions discharge committee. All those in favor of the Motion of changing the Order of Business will signify by voting 'aye'; those opposed vote 'nay'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk take the record. On this Motion there are 51 voting 'aye', 64 voting 'no', none voting 'present'. This Motion having failed the secure with the necessary votes is declared...as failed."

Speaker Black

"Third Reading. House Bill number 32. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

Clerk Rossi

"House Bill 32, a Bill for an Act amending the Illinois Plumbing License Law. Third Reading of this House Bill." 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995

Speaker Black

"Yes, the Chair represents...the Chair would recognize the...the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Parke recognize to the Bill."

Parke

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker Ladies and Gentleman of the House. House Bill 32 amends the Illinois Plumbing License Law excludes from the definition of plumbing the connecting of water and sewer systems to mobile homes and manufactured homes to existing connections in the ground. In essence what we have is in trailer parks we have pads that are established, in mobile homes we have pads that are established by licensed plumbers. They have to use them to lay the pad out but once that nub is left there to hook it up to the system itself you no longer need to use a licensed plumber. We think that this is a reasonable piece of legislation, we find that especially in trailer parks many times it's difficult to find a licensed plumber that would be willing to come and do a hook up when they would rather be working on a job site making more money. So we would ask that this Bill pass, and I would be happy to take any questions."

Speaker Black

"Thank you, and on that, is there any discussion? The Chair would recognize the Gentleman from Clinton, Representative Granberg."

Granberg

"Will the Gentleman yield?"

Speaker Black

"He indicates he will."

Granberg

"Parke you've indicated that this is a very simple procedure, but aren't there different types of metals involved in the hook up or the tapping of those services, for the pipes.

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"Thank you. It's my understanding that most of the connections should be coterminous that it would not be 5 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 necessarily very often the different kind of pipe hookup."

Speaker Black

"Representative Granberg."

Granberg

"Representative, I'm sorry, did you say that would be in most cases?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Granberg

"Is there any quaranty...is there any law or regulation that says these things are of the same type conterminous as you stated?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Park."

Parke

"Representative it's not my understanding that there is a specific law that does that."

Speaker Black

"Representative Granberg."

Granberg

"So, in fact, that would not necessarily be the case. Representative this would apply strictly to mobile home or trailer parks?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"It's my understanding it would apply trailer parks and to mobile homes that would be hooked up anywhere in the State of Illinois. Not necessarily just to the trailer park."

Speaker Black

"Representative Granberg"

Granberg

"Why would this not apply to other residences for instance town houses, condominiums, residential properties."

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"That's a good question, because it is not and established nub. When they lay the internal plumbing that is what ought to have a licensed plumber to make sure those systems in that home or condominium or town home is done in a way that is properly and will meet code either the village code or the county code, to make sure those hookups are done. What I am asking is, where it's an outside nub where you simply have the water and sewer sitting there not being 6 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 used and we bring in a facility and we hook it up to that facility. That's what we are talking about."

Speaker Black

"Representative Granberg"

Granberg

"So there would be a different standard for people who reside in trailers as opposed to those people who reside in condominiums or town houses or residence...or three bedroom residences."

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"Representative that, in fact, would be true by the nature of this Bill. We see nothing wrong with that because, again these are nubs that are sitting there that are not hooked up. When we bring the unit in where there is a manufactured housing or a trailer you simply hook the hose up to the sewer, you hook the hose up to the water and that individual then can proceed to live there. And it does not necessarily need a licensed plumber. Ultimatly...in some areas, it would have to meet certain codes and if they do not have it hookup properly then they would have problems getting a permit for that."

Speaker Black

"Representative Granberg."

Granberg

"So, in fact, with the passage of this legislation if this was to become law. There would be a lower standard for the plumbing for people who live in trailers."

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"I'd like to know what difference does it make between an individual hooking up this system or a plumber hooking up this system. If it is a simple hookup what difference does it make, and your opinion of a substandard is not my opinion. I think what we are doing is trying to accommodate consumers without having to pay high rates to a licensed plumber. I see nothing wrong with licensed plumbers doing their jobs that they are paid for, but I 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 think this is not unreasonable to let a person who simply wants to put a trailer on a pad, not have to pay joureymen license plumber rates when they can do it themselves. And I don't think that's unreasonable and I would think that the General Assembly would agree with me."

Speaker Black

"Representative Granberg."

Granberg

"Well Representative you stated earlier that is not necessarily the cases that the pipes would be coterminous, that they would be exactly the same and so there is some degree of difficulty. This is not as simple as one may seem. You stated that in your remarks earlier that there is a difference. There is a potential difference. I would assume then, if that was the case, then you have the possibility of electrolysis with the different pipes. You have a different standard that you're allowing for people who live in trailer parks, a lesser standard, Sir. And that would effect the quality of the water they are entitled to and that would, in fact, be a lesser standard SO people in trailer parks would have the possibility of a lesser standard of water than people who live in condominiums or town houses or other people. Sir, I would...Sir, I would ask...do you what the immediate income is for a resident of a trailer park?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"Representative Granberg, I'm sure your gonna enlighten us, and I'm sure you have a reason for asking that question SO why don't you just tell the Body because I'm not aware of it and then give us your infinite wisdom as to why that's important."

Speaker Black

"Representative Granberg."

Granberg

"Well, Representative what we've seen in this Body so far in the fast track legislation, is a difference in how 8 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 we treat citizens, how we treat working men and women, how we treat working families, and how we treat people that have a great deal of money and a great deal of resources. It seems to me that this is just another way of trying to draw that separation where working men and women receive lesser quality, receive a lesser standard of the quality of water they receive. Now, Sir, I'm just asking, is there a difference in the immediate income of those residents as opposed to others and if so isn't the quality affected...isn't the quality of water affected by your proposed legislation?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"Representative Granberg, let me just say that your standard is a lesser standard I don't believe that that is true. And, in fact, what I am trying to do is take in to consideration those people that do live in trailer parks, which in my district I have a lot of people that do. I'm trying to save them money. I don't think that is unreasonable...I don't think it's unreasonable to try to save money when it is so simple. And I would also point out that a lot of people are quite capable of a taking a...a...joint and moving on to another piece that doesn't fit right and simply buy a connector and hook up the two pieces of metal that may or may not. I mean they're not dumb they are able to handle that, we don't have to hire a licensed plumber to do that kind of work. If there is any possibility of contamination of the water or the sewers we would not be presenting this Bill. We think this is logical this is reasonable and we are taking in consideration the needs of the consumer and this is a good idea."

Speaker Black

"Representative Granberg, your time for questions 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 has expired will you bring your questioning to an end?"

Granberg

"Mr. Speaker, I think I have someone who's willing to lend me, yield five minutes, if that would be appropriate for the a Speaker to allow that."

Speaker Black

"I'll allow that on behalf of a...who's that Representative Hoffman? All right. Continue your questioning, Representative."

Granberg

"I have a question for the Chair, Mr. Speaker. Are all the a...are all the Bills going to be limited to five minutes of debates by each individual Member? Since we are no longer allowed to explain our votes by the House Rules."

Speaker Black

"I believe the House Rules allow five minutes for the item that you have brought to the Chair, an explanation of votes are no longer included in our House Rules. Representative Granberg."

Granberg

"With do...do respect to the Speaker, Sir. I believe I heard you say yesterday that we could talk till the cows come home whether that's in Centralia or Danville or..."

Speaker Black

"Well, yes in Danville we use that expression you can talk until the cows come home or five minutes which ever comes first. Yes, Representative Granberg, do you have questions?"

Granberg

"To Representative Parke, Sir. Hypothetically, Sir, if a plumber is not required to go to the trailer to live up to the village or the town code or the county code and you have a sewer hookup if by the process of freezing and electrolysis because as you indicated the pipes may not be the same. There is that possibility. If that happens, Sir, what would happen when that pipe breaks and you have raw sewage underneath that trailer? Would this legislation have an impact on this?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke... Representative Parke." 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 17th Legislative Day

Parke

"Mr. Speaker, I am sorry I did not hear Representative Granberg's question, could he repeat it and could we be a little more quiet so he has the respect of his questions?"

Speaker Black

"Yes, Representative Granberg, do you have questions?"

Granberg

"Yes, Mr. Speaker. Thank you Representative Parke. Representative Parke, hypothetically, if we do not have this law and you have a hookup underneath one of these trailers and the pipes are not the same as you indicated, previously, and you want to conform to the code and hypothetically these pipes break because of freezing electrolysis whatever the standard...the lesser standard is. So then you have a situation where you have raw sewage under these trailers. Now, I would think that would constitute a health hazard. With your Bill would that...that would be the case then would it not. As opposed to a licensed plumber who would conduct this activity."

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"Many of the people, especially in my area, are senior citizens who would not have the ability or the skill to take care of that problem and I am sure they would have to call a licensed plumber a part of this system, but I might remind you that the pad has already, been in place put in there by a licensed plumber already, Representative Granberg. It's already there. What we're talking about is a hose that would go from the nub of the trailer to the nub in the platform. So the only thing that could happen is that hose could break or crack or freeze. That could happen and if that, if fact, does happen then they would just go out and buy a new hose and replace it and take care of that problem. Or they would go to the trailer park 11 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 manager and tell him that they have a problem and could they have someone that is a handyman or somebody that work's around the trailer parks come in, and help them take care of the problem. What we're talking about is trying to save these senior citizens that money that could cost anywhere from $50 to $500 hundred to hookup the trailer park depending on what the plumber wants to charge."

Speaker Black

"Representative Granberg."

Granberg

"Well, what we have, Representative, with a due respect is the fact that you have now a lesser standards those people who have raw sewage underneath their trailers will be limited on what can occur. That means they have to go to the landlord, the trailer park owner, whomever, because these things are not installed properly in the first instance. So those people living in these trailer parks can have raw sewage underneath their homes, their residents, because they have not been installed properly that's what we're getting to. Mr. Speaker, to the Bill. I rise in opposition because once again we are faced with the difference on how we treat people in the state, based on how much money they have and their place in society. We have seen this Body in the last three weeks, establish different standards of conduct for those people who have the ability to pay and those people who do not. Once again we're seeing a lesser standard applied to those people who don't have the financial resources, the financial where with all, to have the same standard of living as others. Now, we have a lesser standard for the quality of water they receive, the sewage treatment they receive, and another, again, another lesser standard. If this is what this Body has been about, if this is what this new 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 Majority is about, hurting working men and women, whether it's a Scaffold Act or the quality of water they receive, it's not what this Body should do. This Body has been a Body of all the people, not dependent on how much money you have, not depending on you financial where with all. Ladies and Gentlemen, vote this Bill down we do...do not need to divide society anymore. It shouldn't matter how much money you have, treat people the same."

Speaker Black

"Bring your remarks to a close, Representative. Are you completed? All right. Yes, the...Gentleman from Knox, Representative Moffitt recognized for discussion on the Bill."

Moffitt

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Black

"He indicates he will."

Moffitt

"Thank you, Representative Parke, I had some constituents express concern about this and because they have expressed some concern I have some too, and I'd just like to ask you a question or two. This hasn't been mentioned here. If it is a mobile home on private property would this apply to them? Do they have to have a licensed plumber now? Where it's just, they are going to use it for their own residence and is out on a private property. Do they have to have a licensed plumber now?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"Representative Moffitt, it is my understanding that it really doesn't matter if it is private property or not, that this would apply to any mobile home whether it was private property or it was a mobile home property that they would be renting the pad from. I don't understand why that would make a difference maybe you can enlighten us if that creates a problem."

Speak Black

"Representative Moffitt."

Moffitt

"Do...at the present time...do they need to get a 13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 licensed plumber? Would this exempt them from needing that? That's the..."

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"The final stage...I mean...are you about some guy going into the woods and hooking up his trailer on his own property and does he need a plumber to do that? It's my understanding, and I could be corrected but it's my understanding that to do that you still have to get approval from the county or from the village proper where if you are in a corporated area by the public health department to certify that, in fact, they're meeting the codes. And if it's a pad that they are putting it on that a license plumber still has to be used to do that work because now you are interfering with the fresh water system and your interfere with the sewage system of that area. Because you've got to bring the pipe in from the water and you've got to bring the pipe in. That's still gotta be done by a license plumber. And so really it doesn't matter what we are really talking about is simply the hookup does not have to be done by a license plumber."

Speaker Black

"Representative Moffitt."

Moffitt

"Now this only refers to the connections, what if it's the mobile home in the park now the persons going to move that home out so that's a disconnection. Is that the same as a connection?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"Well, it would be hard to say that that wouldn't be the case, SO I would presume the disconnection should be just as easy as the hookup. And that once you disconnect you just unscrew the system also."

Speaker Black

"Representative Moffitt."

Moffitt

"Can you give me any indication by area or wherever you 14 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 want to pick, as an example, what the average cost is currently for a connection. If you want to...you know...state it for a given area where you are familiar with or something."

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"Representative Moffitt, I have been told it could take anywhere from two to four hours and whatever the prevailing wage or whatever the wage of a licensed plumber is, that is what those people would have to pay and we just don't think again that that is something the reason we're putting the Bill in. It's not necessary for those mobile home owners to have to pay that fee when, again, they can do it themselves."

Speaker Black

"Representative Moffitt."

Moffitt

"Thank you, Representative Parke I appreciate you comments. I still have some concerns but I appreciate your attempts at answering those questions.

Speaker Black

"Thank you. The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Lang. You seeking recognition to question?"

Lang

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Black

"He indicates he will."

Lang

"Representative why have you limited this Bill just to mobile homes?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"Representative Lang, I apologize, but I was talking. Could you say that one more time?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Lang."

Lang

"Why have you limited this Bill just to mobile homes, Sir?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"Representative, it's not just a mobile home it's also to manufactured housing, but it is not to...to...housing that would be established as a permanent and any other kind of 15 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 housing other than those two."

Speaker Black

"Representative Lang."

Lang

"Well, than let me ask the question this way. Why have you picked out these two forms of housing to say that there should be a different standard for plumbing work than in other kinds of housing."

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"Because when you hook up all these other systems you have a..."

Speaker Black

"Representative Lang, another question?"

Lang

"I'm waiting for his answer."

Speaker Black

"All right, I think he is in conference. He will be right with you. Representative Parke."

Parke

"Representative, those are the two groups that came to me with the legislation and those are the two that indicated that this was a problem."

Speaker Black

"Representative Lang."

Lang

"Thank you. Don't you feel that this is sort of uneven legislation. If someone came to me with a Bill that exempted certain groups, the first question I would ask them would be well why are other groups exempted. Why are we limiting it to these two? Did you ask that question, Sir?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"Representative, as I stand here, I don't have an answer for your question, and I think that is a valid question. So what I'd like to do, because I'd like the answer myself, Mr. Speaker, would I ask that you take the Bill from the record and when I can get that answer I'd like to come back to the Bill if that's proper."

Speaker Black

"Take the Bill out of the record, Mr. Clerk. Mr. Clerk, Committee Reports." 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995

Clerk Rossi

"Representative Stephens, Chairman from the Committee on Executive, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken on February 15, 1995, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' Senate Bill 10, 'do pass as amended' House Bills 20, 207.

Speaker Black

"Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Still on the Order of Third Reading. We have House Bill 211. Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 211."

Clerk Rossi

"House Bill 211, a Bill for an Act to amend the Township Code. Third Reading of this House Bill."

Speaker Black

"Representative Hughes, do you wish to proceed? Yes, Representative from McHenry, Representative Hughes."

Hughes

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 211 amends the Township Code to authorize the township board to donate property with a value of $10,000 or less to a historical society, if the electors declare the property to be surplus and the historical society pays for an appraisal. This Bill is generated by a township in my county that has an old town hall that is in excess of a 100 years old has not been used for about 25 years. The historical society is interested in having the property, keeping the building on its site, using it for a museum for live meetings from time to time that would recreate a typical 100 year old town meeting. The...under this Bill it would allow the township to convey that property to the historical district for those purposes. There was no controversy over this Bill in committee and it is supported by the township officials in Illinois and I would urge a 'yes' vote."

Speaker Black

"Thank you, Representative. Is there any discussion? The Chair would recognize the Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative Hoffman. Do you have a question for the Sponsor?" 17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995

Hoffman

"Yes, Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Black

"She indicates she will."

Hoffman

"Yes Representative, what county is this being done for? Is it a county in your district...or township in your district?

Speaker Black

"Representative Hughes."

Hughes

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The township is not in my district, it is in McHenry County and it borders my district."

Speaker Black

"Representative Hoffman."

Hoffman

"What township is that?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Hughes."

Hughes

"I'm sorry Seneca township."

Speaker

"Representative Hoffman."

Hoffman

"Specifically, you had indicated that this has to do with I believe and old town hall or fire station. Is that right?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Hughes."

Hughes

"Mr. Speaker, I could not hear the question."

Speaker Black

"Ladies and Gentleman, this is Third Reading it's final passage would you please take you conferences outside? Proceed, Representative Hoffman."

Hoffman

"Yes, I would just like the Sponsor to briefly once again because of the noise level to give the Members of the Body a rundown on exactly why we need the specific situation in her area, why we need this piece of legislation."

Speaker Black

"Representative Hughes."

Hughes

"This Bill...applies to the entire state not just to my area. What it does is allow for a township to declare a piece of property surplus and if the value is less than $10,000 to give it to a historical society. So that it can 18 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 be preserved as a museum on sight."

Speaker Black

"Representative Hoffman."

Hoffman

"Representative, I'm just trying to get to what specific...do you have something in mind that this is going to assist in, specifically in what township and what are we talking about. So...so I would like a specific example of what this is going to do."

Speaker Black

"Representative Hughes."

Hughes

"I'm sorry, specifically this is an old town hall in Seneca Township in McHenry County. It has not be utilized for a period of roughly 25 years. The intentions for the property are to preserve it on sight. To utilize it as a museum and to utilize it on occasion as a living museum recreating what would have been a typical old town meeting of a 100 years ago or so. Under the statutes they are unable to dispose of the property or convey it at less than fair market value or lease it at less than fair market value."

Speaker Black

"Representative Hoffman."

Hoffman

"Two other questions. First of all is surplus defined anywhere? And how can we insure that...what could possibly happen in this situation is, if surplus is defined in such a broad manner my concern is that a township would buy property for another taxing district and then donate it to that historical society or historical district. In essence, circumventing the other laws that put Caps on the amount of taxing authority to that historical society. So do we, anywhere, define what surplus exactly means number one, and then number two is this specifically only allowing us to donate it to a historical society?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Hughes."

Hughes

"As to question number one, the definition of surplus 19 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 property would be by the electorate of the township and it would be of a value of less than $10,000. As to question number two. Yes, it would be specifically to an historical society."

Speaker Black

"Representative Hoffman."

Hoffman

"Is there any statutory reference that would point us to a direction as to what surplus is. Because, and my understand or my concern is that the definition of surplus in one township, as is defined by the electors, could be different in another township. So I mean what...what one township and one part of the state view as a surplus may not necessarily jive with what a surplus in another part of the state. Is there any statutory authority that we could point to and say, 'Hey' we're allowing this, because I think...I agree with the concept of your Bill, Representative. I think it's a good Bill. I think...I'm going to vote for it. I just want to have safe guards in place so that we don't...have it abused in other townships. I know that...that your intention is noble and in this specific instance I am for it. But I want to make sure that it is not abused in other areas of the state."

Speaker Black

"Representative Hoffman...do you wish her to respond to that? Well good luck, Representative Hughes I didn't get the question, but you might like to respond."

Hughes

"Thank you, for you confidence. There is no specific definition of surplus, this creates a new section called surplus property in that section and in a second section called donation of surplus property. In both of those instances it specifically states only property to historical societies which I believe narrows this down very much and specifically to $10,000 or less secondly and thirdly by...to be determined by the electors." 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 17th Legislative Day

Speaker Black

"Representative Hoffman."

Hoffman

"Very good. Representative, I believe that this is a good piece of legislation and I think everybody should support it."

Speaker Black

"The Gentleman from Knox. Representative Moffitt."

Moffitt

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Black

"She indicates she will. Representative Hughes."

Hughes

"I also think this is an excellent Bill, but a couple points of clarification. First, is this of course it is to an historical society that its donated, but is this only if they are a willing receiver, a willing recipient of this? I mean...I can't imagine very often that being a problem, but if it was a building in bad repair and the historical society was in no financial condition to accept it. I...I...would it be correct, if only, if they were willing to accept it?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Hughes."

Hughes

"I believe the answer to that would be 'yes', and under the specifics of this legislation, historical society would be paying for the appraisal and there isn't any way to force them to do that."

Speaker Black

"Representative Moffitt,"

Moffitt

"Thank you. So they would only take it if they really wanted it. And I appreciate that. Secondly then are there any provisions or stipulations that they have to keep it or the manner in which they would dispose of it if that would come down the road, you know, where they would want to get rid of it? Is that regulated by statute?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Hughes."

Hughes

"That is not specifically addressed. Some of the issues such as that, it was believed would be felt those should be 21 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 determined on a case by case basis. That is not specified in this legislation."

Speaker Black

"Representative Moffitt."

Moffitt

"Thank you. I think this is an excellent Bill Representative and I certainly intend to support it and urge everyone else to do so also."

Speaker Black

"Any further discussion? Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Washington, Representative Deering."

Deering

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Black

"She indicates she will."

Deering

"Representative Hughes...the township is going to give this building to the historical society. Now you said...you mention something that tweaked my interest this is going to be...that could affect townships statewide. Does this allow historical society, once they take over the possession or ownership of a building, does this allow for them in anyway to do backdoor tax increases to do modifications or restoration projects?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Hughes."

Hughes

"Absolutely not."

Speaker Black

"Representative Deering."

Deering

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, that was my concern."

Speaker Black

"Any further discussion? Any further discussion? No one seeking recognition, the Chair will recognize Representative Hughes to close."

Hughes

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would urge support for this Bill again it is to allow preservation a wonderful old facility. It is noncontroversial and it will help us keep something of the past for our future. Thank you."

Speaker Black

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 211 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? This 22 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 114 'ayes', no 'noes', and no one voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair will proceed now to Representative Parke, who had taken House Bill 32 out of the record. He now wishes to bring that back. House Bill 32 Third Reading. Representative Park."

Parke

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative Lang, asked the question that it was obvious in its answer, but I did not see the obvious answer. Representative, to your question. The reason why you do not need to use plumbers for a manufactured housing is cause it's all been already done in the work site where they manufactured by licensed plumbers already and they have just simply...all they have to do...it's a turnkey operation. They simply hook it up to the system and it's ready to go. They don't have to do anything more than that so, it's already been done. A manufactured housing is just like a mobile home that they take from the site where it's manufactured, take it down the road put it on the slab...or the platform area that has already been established by a licensed plumber and it's ready to go. And that is the answer."

Speaker Black

"Representative Lang."

Lang

"Thank you. What would've the result be if a handyman or homeowner that did this connection didn't do it well and there was a leak and raw sewage? What would be the result to not only that mobile home owner but also the ground beneath the trailer, other homeowners, the land itself? What would happen?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"The same thing would happen as if a licensed plumber made 23 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 a mistake. The same thing would happen if the lines froze. You would have to correct it and take care of the problem and a...we don't see that an individual hooking up their own system is gonna want to have that happen. They are gonna make sure that's done properly because no one wants raw sewage under their trailer."

Speaker Black

"Representative Lang. And may I compliment you on your new microphone stand, Sir."

Lang

"Thank you."

Speaker Black

"Proceed."

Lang

"Isn't it true though, Representative Parke, that if I in my own home either with or without a license plumber have a problem with my sewer pipes and there is a leak the only person it affects is me, but in a mobile home park if there is a leak onto the ground it could have dramatic effects on all the home owners?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"Your point is well taken, but I don't think that that is what is going to happen. I think people that are going to do their own hooking up are going to try to do everything they can to make sure it doesn't happen and just because they use a licensed plumber does not guarantee, in fact, that, that is going to happen either."

Speaker Black

"Representative Lang."

Lang

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the Sponsor for his answers. To the Bill, I think the Sponsor answered the question for us. He said my point was well taken. My point is well taken. If a shoddy connection at one of these manufactured housing sites or one of the mobile home sites allows raw sewage to leak onto the ground it will ruin the ground, it can get into the ground water it can effect the health, and welfare, and safety of all the 24 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 residence of the mobile home park. If I do this at my home the only person it affects, is me and my family. So there's a real good reason to make sure this work is done with the utmost of care by someone who really knows what they are doing. There are probably some homeowners out there who could do this. Probably some handymen out there that could do this, but our responsibility, particularly in a outdoor setting, which is what a mobile home park is, is to make sure the other residence don't suffer for the failures of one mobile home-owner to do the work properly. Accordingly, a bad connection is a serious, serious health threat to the other owners. That being the case, I think we have a responsibility to protect all the other home-owners in that mobile home park. And, accordingly, I think the law as it stands today gives them more protection than this proposal, therefore I would recommend a 'no' vote."

Speaker Black

"Any further discussion? Yes, the Gentleman from Effingham, Representative Hartke."

Hartke

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Black

"He indicates he will."

Hartke

"Representative Parke, I think you indicated that the time frame in this connection for a trailer is what two to four hours?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"That's what the plumbers say. It's my understanding that that's what the plumber have indicated."

Speaker Black

"Representative Hoffman. Excuse me, Representative Hartke."

Hartke

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm Representative Hartke. This is Representative Hoffman. So what we're talking about is what about $25 an hour for the plumber...a 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 licensed plumber. How often do trailers move in and out of trailer parks? Do they move in and out of trailer parks? How often do you move a trailer out and then another trailer moves in?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"I really don't know the average is, Representative, but I will tell you the trailer parks in my district are pretty permanent. These people many of them have been there for years because, again, most of them in trailers are senior citizens. And a lot of times it's young couples that are trying to get enough money together so they can eventually buy a home for the first home after they have moved out of it. So I don't know what the average is."

Speaker Black

"Representative Hartke."

Hartke

"Well generally then when the trailer is parked it probably stays there for 15, 20 years. And I would think your saving of $50 or $100 is inconsequential, as far as the cost to make sure the proper hookup is made and health and safety of not only that trailer, but also a neighboring trailers should be taken in consideration. But let's say the trailer does move and another trailer comes in and what you are trying to do is exempt the owners or the trailer park from the statute that says, licensed plumber. Is that right?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke. Excuse me, one minute Representative. Ladies and Gentleman we're on Third Reading and the noise level just continues to rise to an intolerable level. Mr. Doorkeeper, I see people all over this chamber and I doubt seriously they have any legal authority to be here. I want you to check their passes. I want this group in the back either leave the chamber or show the Doorkeeper your pass. The same as over here on 26 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 the Democrat side. Now this level of nonsense is not going to be tolerated while we are on Third Reading if you don't have business on this floor, retire now, or I'm going to ask the Doorkeeper to escort you from the Floor. Representative Parke."

Parke

"To answer your question, Representative Hartke. First of all, I want you and every Member of the Body to understand we're not precluding homeowners from hiring a licensed plumber. If they wish to do that they certainly can. But it says in the Bill from existing utilities connection in the ground. Now there are shut off valves in the ground if its leaking as it's been tried to be made up of how terrible that is. All that somebody has to do is start seeing there is a problem there is a shut off valve for water and sewer they just turn that off. So I don't see it as a serious problem as my colleges on your side would make it."

Speaker Black

"Representative Hartke."

Hartke

"Yes, is there a shut off valve on the sewer drainage as well?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"I...I...Representative Hartke, I've been told by the people who are working with the manufactured housing that there is a shut off valve on the sewer also."

Speaker Black

"Representative Hartke."

Hartke

"Is the shut off valve on the trailer itself or on the pad?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"It is...I've asked that question and it's my understanding it's from the pad."

Speaker Black

"Representative Hartke."

Hartke

"It's on the pad of the a...the concrete pad in the 27 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 trailer park. Okay, I got another question. You said utilities. This is exempting the hookup of utilities to the trailer from licensor...or it's not necessary to use a licensed individual. Is that right?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"Just for plumbing, Representative Hartke."

Speaker Black

"Representative Hartke bring your questions to a close."

Hartke

"What if...what if electricity is coming up from the ground utilities. Utilities you're saying. Now, electricity is a utility as well. That could be and underground hookup to the trailer as well could it not."

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"Representative, this applies to plumbing only."

Speaker Black

"Representative Hartke."

Hartke

"In the first part of that if you look...it says...water...plumbing it says for water and sewer."

Speaker

"Representative Hartke, your time is about up."

Hartke

"Mr. Speaker, to the Bill,"

Speaker Black

"To the Bill."

Hartke

"You know, I think I know what we are trying to do here. We are trying to eliminate the need for a licensed plumber to...a...rehook up a trailer once a trailer has been moved. My concern is that if we become agreeable with this concept, the next piece of legislation we're going to see is that...well when you hookup your electricity you don't need a licensed electrician, just any maintenance man in the trailer park can do that. Or individuals can do that. You don't have to follow a certain electrical codes to hook this up. I think that most people and most individuals can hookup a couple of pipes. Anybody with a roll of masking tape can probably do it, but whether it's going to last and 28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 be there for the safety and welfare of the people in the trailer court, I'm not sure. I'm very concerned about this piece of legislation and I'm not sure I can support it or not."

Speaker Black

"Are there any further questions? Any further discussion? Yes, the Gentleman from Williamson, Representative Woolard."

Woolard

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Sponsor a couple of questions if I may."

Speaker Black

"He indicates he will yield."

Woolard

"Under the existing licensure laws of this state as far as...plumbers are concerned. What does it take to become a licensed plumber in your opinion. Representative Parke?"

Speaker Black

"Representative Parke."

Parke

"Representative, a...I hold the a...licensing procedure for plumbers...in high esteem because they are a valuable part of our professional work force and I am sure that it is a long journeyman...a long process and I am sure that question was asked by them for me. Perhaps you could share your insight, but that's my opinion I'm sure they do a lot of work to get to the point of being a journeyman."

Speaker Black

"Representative Woolard."

Woolard

"Having been actively involved in the construction business for a number of years and my father a licensed plumber for several of those years. I happen to be very familiar with the process that takes place in the licensure of those people in this state. The health and life safety of each and every one of us is impacted very significantly by the training and knowledge that they have. Not only are we concerned about the environment and the possible spillage that might take place in a residential area by sewage and other things being unloaded on the top of the 29 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 ground and creating some very adverse situations for all of us to live with. We're talking about something here that can even be more devastating than that. I don't know if any of you have ever heard of a gas explosion. Gas sometimes is a derived from various sources. One of the things that I think that each and everyone of us had better recognize is that there is some serious implications that can come through the sewage that we distribute throughout our sewage systems and local communities. Those leach fields that we put out as far as some of the rural areas of this state. What can happen is we can have an imperfect system that is not trapped properly that through the training the licensed plumbers know how exactly how to accomplish. And insure our safety by doing so, that if someone was there who was not qualified and was not readily available to the procedures, could allow that gas to come up into our house. As it comes into the crawl space underneath or the home itself. Once it accumulates in a very short period of time this can be just as devastating to that facility and those residents within as gas coming from a gas line or anything else. I'm here to tell you that we better make sure that we have properly qualified and trained individuals dealing with something as serious as the sewage connections in our homes. The health and safety are important, but the lives of our kids, family and wives are equally important, and we are dealing with something here that can be totally devastating if we are not careful. I implore you to seek out those people who are successful and passing the licensure laws of this state. Have the ability and knowledge and experience and especially training to insure that our safety is secure. I encourage you to vote 'no', on House Bill 32," 30 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995

Speaker Black

"Yes, Representative Woolard, I assume you were speaking to the Bill. That's not a question, correct? Thank you, all right. Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Representative Saltsman, I see you on my display case I don't see you light blinking. Are you seeking recognition?

Saltsman

"Yes, my light is blinking."

Speaker Black

"Fine...fine. Representative Saltsman."

Saltsman

"Is it okay now. Yes, a...Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This legislation would be a serious mistake for the...for health and safety reasons. It is also a blow to the apprenticeship program and to organized labor. It's easy to throw shabby work together and cover it up and let someone who moves in four or five later suffer the consequences. We had this problem in Peoria, Illinois, back in the mid 60's when we annexed a very large area that never came under only codes of any kind and I've seen housing that was put up with just rubber hose ran for service from this program, from the main lines just rubber hose run into these homes which collapsed two and three years later underground. They were put together because they didn't have the properly trained people do it. They did it because the building codes weren't there, and now the people who bought these homes, to look nice up front had a tremendous expense of going back and redoing what was covered up. I urge the defeat of this legislation it's a very nonunion program."

Speaker Black

"Any further discussion? Any further discussion? If no one is seeking recognition, the Chair will recognize Representative Parke to close."

Parke

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentleman of the House. I think we've had a healthy discussion on the 31 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 legislation I think the two previous speakers are certainly trying to point out problems, but quite frankly I respectfully...point out that licensed plumbers are involved up to the point of the nub sticking out of...out of the pad. And all we're talking about is allowing, if a homeowner chooses, he can hired a licensed plumbers to do it is he wants, or he or she wants to. But it's sitting out of the ground all I'm asking is that they can simply take and connect it to that unit. It's pretty simple they out to be able to do it those that feel comfortable doing it will do it, those that are not will hire a licensed plumber...and so I would ask the Body to vote for this good consumer piece of legislation."

Speaker Black

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 32 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 63 'ayes' 49 'noes' 2 voting 'present'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Back on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk there was a House Bill that had a fiscal note file. Would you read the Bill?"

Clerk Rossi

"House Bill 632 has been read a second time previously, and was held on the Order of Second Reading because a fiscal note had been requested. That request has now been withdrawn."

Speaker Black

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, Supplemental Calendar announcement."

Clerk Rossi

"Supplemental Calendar #1 is being distributed."

Speaker Black

"On Supplemental Calendar #1 appears House Bill 20. Supplemental Calendar #1 there appears House Bill 20. 32 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 20."

McLennand

February 15, 1995 "House Bill 20, a Bill for an Act that amends the Code of Civil Procedures. Second Reading of this Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in committee. No Motions filed. No Floor Amendments."

Speaker Black

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, on Supplemental Calendar #1 there appears House Bill 207. Read House Bill 207."

McLennand

"House Bill 207, Bill for an Act that amends the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee. Committee Amendments 2-26 were referred to Subcommittee. No Floor Amendments."

Speaker Black

"Third Reading. On Supplemental Calendar #1, there appears House Bill 545. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

McLennand

"House Bill 545, a Bill for the Act that amends School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee. No Floor Amendments. A fiscal note has been requested."

Speaker Black

"The Gentleman from Effingham, Representative Hartke, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

Hartke

"Mr. Speaker, I see we're moving this Bill from Second to Third. Is that the intent right now, there were like 35 some Amendment that were filed in the Education Committee this morning. On this piece of legislation in and...subsequently those Amendments were...were, I believe were assigned to an...committee on...on a Amendments and that a Subcommittee and...I'm not sure we got the final version of that Bill yet. I wonder, are you going to hold this on Second while we get the report back from the various committees on those Amendments?"

Speaker Black

"Committee Reports have been read into the record, Sir. See no one seeking recognition. Third Reading Mr. 33 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 Clerk."

McLennand

"Fiscal notes have been filed for the Bill as amended."

Speaker Black

"On Supplemental Calendar #1 there appears Senate Bill 10. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

McLennand

"Senate Bill 10, a Bill for an Act concerning Public Aid. Second Reading of the Bill. Committee Amendment #1 was withdrawn. Committee Amendments #2 through 17 failed. No Floor Amendments. A fiscal note has been requested on a Bill."

Speaker Black

"What is the status of the fiscal note?"

McLennand

"A state mandates note has been filed and a balanced budget note has been filed."

Speaker Black

"Thank you very much. See no one seeking recognition. Third Reading. Yes, The Chair...the Chair usually doesn't respond to things he hears in the air, but the Clerk said the fiscal note had been filed. Clerk are there any announcements? Mr. Clerk, are there any announcements? If I could have the attention of the Body the Clerk has asked me to remind all of you that filing deadline is tomorrow. If you are holding Bills that you wish to get filed or you are waiting for last minute check of the language. Would behoove you to file those Bills as filing deadline is tomorrow. Gentleman from DeKalb, Representative Wirsing, are you seeking recognition?"

Wirsing

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to clarify in todays Calendar it has Senate Bills 241 and 242 listed They, under Elementary and Secondary Education Committee. in fact, should have been listed under the higher Education Committee. The system has them listed as a Higher Education Committee. So it's just an error in the Calendar. Thank you." 34 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995

Speaker Black

"Thank you. The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Jersey Representative Ryder. Representative Ryder now moves that the House stand adjourned until Thursday February 16, 1995 at the hour of 1:30 p.m. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye'; opposed, 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and allowing for Perfunctory time for the Clerk, the House now stands adjourned until Thursday February 16, 1995 at the hour of 1:30 p.m."

Clerk Rossi

"Introduction - First Reading of House Bills. House Bill 1503, offered by Representative Lindner, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. House Bill 1504, offered by Representative Cross, a Bill for an Act to amend the Juvenile Court Act. House Bill 1505, offered by Representative Cross, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedures. House Bill 1506, offered by Representative Cross, a Bill for an Act to amend the Probate Act. House Bill 1507, offered by Representative Ryder, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. House Bill 1508, offered by Representative Stephens, a Bill for an Act concerning the Illinois Veterans Homes. House Bill 1509, offered by Representative John Jones, a Bill for an Act to amend the University of Illinois Act. House Bill 1510, offered by Representative Zickus, a Bill for an Act in relation to women in military service. House Bill 1511, offered by Representative Poe, a Bill for an Act to amend the Historic Preservation Agency Act. House Bill 1512, offered by Representative Churchill, a Bill for an Act to amend the General Obligation Bond Act. House Bill 1513, offered by Representative Churchill, a Bill for an Act to amend the General Obligation Bond Act. House Bill 1514, offered by Representative Churchill, a Bill for an 35 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 Act in relation to the Illinois Development Finance Authority. House Bill 1515, offered by Representative Churchill, a Bill for an Act to amend the Build Illinois Bond Act. House Bill 1516, offered by Representative Andrea Moore, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Purchasing Act. House Bill 1517, offered by Representative Kubik, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Purchasing Act. House Bill 1518, offered by Representative Leitch, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. House Bill 1519, offered by Representative Andrea Moore, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. House Bill 1520, offered by Representative Myers, a Bill for an Act to amend the Personnel Code. House Bill 1521, offered by Representative Meyer, a Bill for an Act regarding the treatment of the American flag. House Bill 1522, offered by Representative Stephens, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Human Rights Act. House Bill 1523, offered by Representative Maureen Murphy, a Bill for an Act in relation to occupation taxes. House Bill 1524, offered by Representative Persico, a Bill for an Act to amend the metro east solid waste disposal and energy producing. House Bill 1525, offered by Representative Persico, a Bill for an Act concerning low-level radioactive waste. House Bill 1526, offered by Representative Spangler, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. House Bill 1527, offered by Representative Zabrocki, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. House Bill 1528, offered by Representative Black, a Bill for an Act concerning vehicle emissions. House Bill 1529, offered by Representative Bost, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. House Bill 1530, offered by Representative Ackerman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. House Bill 1531, offered by 36 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 Representative Bost, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. House Bill 1532, offered by Representative Poe, a Bill for an Act relating to school recycling programs. House Bill 1533, offered by Representative Spangler, a Bill for an Act to amend the Natural Resources Act. House Bill 1534, offered by Representative Salvi, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. House Bill 1535, offered by Representative O'Connor, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. House Bill 1536, offered by Representative Lang, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. House Bill 1537, offered by Representative Cowlishaw, a Bill for an Act to amend the Higher Education Student Assistance Act. House Bill 1538, offered by Representative Persico, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. House Bill 1539, offered by Representative Persico, a Bill for an Act concerning asbestos abatement. House Bill 1540, offered by Representative Dart, a Bill for an Act to amend the Adoption Act. House Bill 1541, offered by Representative Dart, a Bill for an Act to amend the Children and Family Services Act. House Bill 1542, offered by Representative Deering, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. House Bill 1543, offered by Representative Bugielski, a Bill for an Act to amend the Meat and Poultry Inspection Act. House Bill 1544, offered by Representative Woolard, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. House Bill 1545, offered by Representative Schakowsky, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. House Bill 1546, offered by Representative Deering, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. House Bill 1547, offered by Representative Howard, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. House Bill 1548, 37 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 offered by Representative Schoenberg, a Bill for an Act concerning private toll highways. House Bill 1549, offered by Representative Schoenberg, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. House Bill 1550, offered by Representative Schoenberg, a Bill for an Act concerning the issuance of licenses and child support. House Bill 1551, offered by Representative Schoenberg, a Bill for an Act concerning child support. House Bill 1552, offered by Representative Schoenberg, a Bill for an Act concerning interest on judgments. House Bill 1553, offered by Representative Hughes, a Bill for an Act to amend the Emergency Medical Services Systems Act. House Bill 1554, offered by Representative Hughes, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. House Bill 1555, offered by Representative Brady, a Bill for an Act in relation to public employee pensions. House Bill 1556, offered by Representative Brady, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. House Bill 1557, offered by Representative Brady, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. House Bill 1558, offered by Representative Roskam, a Bill for an Act in relation to firearms. House Bill 1559, offered by Representative Roskam, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. House Bill 1560, offered by Representative Dart, a Bill for an Act to amend the Juvenile Court Act. House Bill 1561, offered by Representative Dart, a Bill for an Act to amend the Juvenile Court Act. House Bill 1562, offered by Representative McGuire, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Act on Aging. House Bill 1563, offered by Representative McGuire, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Act on Aging. House Bill 1564, offered by Representative McGuire, a Bill for an Act to amend the 38 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 Illinois Act on Aging. House Bill 1565, offered by Representative McGuire, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Act on Aging. House Bill 1566, offered by Representative Biggert, a Bill for an Act in relation to grievance procedures in employment. House Bill 1567, offered by Representative Biggert, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedures. House Bill 1568, offered by Representative Biggert, a Bill for an Act to amend the Juvenile Court Act. House Bill 1569, offered by Representative Biggert, a Bill for an Act concerning children. House Bill 1570, offered by Representative Biggert, a Bill for an Act to amend the Child Care Act. House Bill 1571, offered by Representative John Jones, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. House Bill 1572, offered by Representative Lyons, a Bill for an Act to amend the Condominium Property Act. House Bill 1573, offered by Representative McAuliffe, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. House Bill 1574, offered by Representative Ciarlo, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Income Tax Act. House Bill 1575, offered by Representative Bost, a Bill for an Act to amend the Consumer Fraud and Deceptive Business Practices Act. House Bill 1576, offered by Representative Hartke, a Bill for an Act to amend the Minimum Wage Law. House Bill 1577, offered by Representative Eugene Moore, a Bill for an Act and to amend the Illinois Pension Code. House Bill 1578, offered by Representative Eugene Moore, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. House Bill 1579, offered by Representative Eugene Moore, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. House Bill 1580, offered by Representative Lou Jones, a Bill for an Act concerning job training. House Bill 1581, offered by Representative Lou 39 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 Jones, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Income Tax Act. House Bill 1582, offered by Representative Meyer, a Bill for an Act to amend the Juvenile Court Act. House Bill 1583, offered by Representative Meyer, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unemployment Insurance Act. House Bill 1584, offered by Representative Santiago, a Bill for an Act to amend the Condominium Property Act. House Bill 1585, offered by Representative Santiago, a Bill for an Act concerning condominium property. House Bill 1586, offered by Representative Santiago, a Bill for an Act to amend the Condominium Property Act. House Bill 1587, offered by Representative Biggert, a Bill for an Act to amend the New Vehicle Buyer Protection Act. House Bill 1588, offered by Representative Deering, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. Introduction and First Reading of these House Bills."

McLennand

"Introductions and First Reading. House Bill 1589, offered by Representative Deering, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code and to amend the States Mandate Act. House Bill 1590, offered by Representative Deering, a Bill for an Act to amend the Pension Code and the State Mandates Act. House Bill 1591, offered by Representative Deering, a Bill for an Act to provide additional State Funding for the Public School Teachers Pension and Retirement Fund of Chicago. House Bill 1592, offered by Representative Saviano, a Bill for an Act in relation to recreational trails. House Bill 1593, offered by Representative Saviano, a Bill for an Act to amend the Marriage and Family Therapy Licensing Act. House Bill 1594, offered by Representative Saviano, a Bill for an Act to amend the Marriage and Family Therapy Licensing Act. House Bill 1595, offered by Representative Noland, a Bill for an 40 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 Act to amend the Illinois Pesticide Act. House Bill 1596, offered by Representative Deuchler, a Bill for an Act to amend the Electronic Fund Transfer Transmission Facility Act. House Bill 1597, offered by Representative Deuchler, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Banking Act. House Bill 1598, offered by Representative Coy Pugh, a Bill for an Act to amend the Chicago Out-Patient Clinic Act. House Bill 1599, offered by Representative Pugh, a Bill for an Act to amend the Alcoholism and Other Drug Abuse and Dependency Act. House Bill 1600, offered by Representative Pugh, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. House Bill 1601, offered by Representative Pugh, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the Minority Controlled and Female Controlled Businesses Loan Board. House Bill 1602, offered by Representative Tom Johnson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unemployment Insurance Act. House Bill 1603, offered by Representative Tom Johnson, a Bill for an Act concerning corrections. House Bill 1604, offered by Representative Gash, a Bill for an Act to amend the Juvenile Court Act. House Bill 1605, offered by Representative Morrow, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Identification Act. House Bill 1606, offered by Representative Biggert, a Bill for an Act to amend the Land Trust Recordation and Transfer Tax Act. House Bill 1607, offered by Representative Leitch, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relation to probate and trusts. House Bill 1608, offered by Representative Leitch, a Bill for an Act to amend the Trusts and Trustees Act. House Bill 1609, offered by Representative Balthis, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Labor Relations Act. House Bill 1610, offered by Representative Balthis, a Bill for an Act to 41 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 amend the Public Utilities Act. House Bill 1611, offered by Representative Balthis, a Bill for an Act to amend the Government Salary Withholding Act. House Bill 1610 (sic-1612), offered by Representative Younge, a Bill for an Act relating to tuition rates and certain Public Institutions of Higher Education. House Bill 1614, offered by Representative John Turner, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. House Bill 1613, offered by Representative Harold Murphy, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. House Bill 1615, offered by Representative Bost, a Bill for an Act to amend the Wildlife Code. House Bill 1616, offered by Representative Skinner, a Bill for an Act to create the Teacher Sex/Physical Abuser Sunshine Law. House Bill 1617, offered by Representative Hannig, a Bill for an Act to create the Illinois Procurement Code and to amend and repeal certain named Acts. House Bill 1618, offered by Representative Pankau, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. House Bill 1619, offered by Representative Schakowsky, a Bill for an Act to amend the Consumer Deposit Account Law. House Bill 1620, offered by Representative Schakowsky, a Bill for an Act to amend the Workers' Compensation Act. House Bill 1621, offered by Representative Schakowsky, a Bill for an Act to amend the Workers' Compensation Act. House Bill 1622, offered by Representative Tom Johnson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. House Bill 1623, offered by Representative Tom Johnson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code. House Bill 1624, offered by Representative Tom Johnson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unified Code of Correction. House Bill 1625, offered by Representative Tom Johnson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Controlled Substances Act. 42 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 House Bill 1626, offered by Representative Tom Johnson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Juvenile Court Act. House Bill 1627, offered by Representative Lyons, a Bill for an Act relating to education funding. House Bill 1628, offered by Representative Schakowsky, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. House Bill 1629, offered by Representative Hoffman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. House Bill 1630, offered by Representatives Saltsman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. House Bill 1631, offered by Representative Schakowsky, a Bill for an Act to amend the Residential Real Estate Disclosure Act. House Bill 1632, offered by Representative Schakowsky, a Bill for an Act to amend the Medical Practice Act of 1987. House Bill 1633, offered by Representative Lachner, a Bill for an Act to create the Ultra-light Vehicle Act. House Bill 1634, offered by Representative Lachner, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. House Bill 1635, offered by Representative Cowlishaw, a Bill for an Act regarding General Obligation Bonds. House Bill 1636, offered by Representative Hoffman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unified Code of Corrections. House Bill 1637, offered by Representative Maureen Murphy, a Bill for an Act in relation to certain taxes imposed on fuel and energy. House Bill 1638, offered by Representative Deuchler, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Private Activity Bond Allocation Act. House Bill 1639, offered by Representative Wirsing, a Bill for an Act to amend the Uniform Commercial Code. House Bill 1640, offered by Representative Lachner, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Educational Labor Relations Act. House Bill 1641, offered by Representative Lachner, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. House Bill 1642, offered by Representative O'Connor, a Bill for 43 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 Representative Lachner, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. House Bill 1660, offered by Representative Moffitt, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. House Bill 1661, offered by Representative Pedersen, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. House Bill 1662, offered by Representative Kenner, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unified Code of Corrections. House Bill 1663, offered by Representative Kenner, a Bill for an Act in relation to the unlawful use of weapons by minors. First

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Reading and Introduction of these House Bills. Clerk McLennand: "Introduction First Reading. House Bill 1690, offered by Representative Mulligan, a Bill for an Act concerning benefits for certain health treatments. House Bill 1665, offered by Representative Wojcik, a Bill for an Act concerning children's health insurance coverage."

Clerk Rossi

"Introduction and First Reading of House Bills. House Bill 1666, offered by Representative Wojcik, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. House Bill 1667, offered by Representative Schoenberg, a Bill for an Act concerning interference with access to health care. House Bill 1668, offered by Representative Schoenberg, a Bill for an Act to create the Health Facilities Protection Act. House Bill 1669, offered by Representative John Turner, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil procedure. House Bill 1670, offered by Representative Pedersen, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. House Bill 1671, offered by Representative Pedersen, a Bill for an Act concerning federal encroachment upon State sovereignty. House Bill 1672, offered by Representative Dart, a Bill for an Act to amend the Rights of Crime Victims and Witnesses Act. House Bill 1673, offered by Representative Pedersen, a 45 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. House Bill 1674, offered by Representative McAuliffe and Capparelli, a Bill for an Act to amend the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District Act. House Bill 1675, offered by Representative McAuliffe, a Bill for an Act to amend the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District Act. House Bill 1677, offered by Representative Cowlishaw, a Bill for an Act to amend the Sale of Tobacco to Minors Act. House Bill 1678, offered by Representative Pedersen, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. House Bill 1679, offered by Representative Dart, a Bill for an Act in relation to the unlawful use of weapons by minors. House Bill 1680, offered by Representative Dart, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. House Bill 1681, offered by Representative Mulligan, a Bill for an Act to amend the Clinical Social Work and Social Work Practice Act. House Bill 1682, offered by Representative Mulligan, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. House Bill 1683, offered by Representative Mulligan, a Bill for an Act in relation to limiting property tax exemptions. House Bill 1684, offered by Representative Lachner, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. House Bill 1685, offered by Representative Pedersen, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public

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Aid Code. Clerk McLennand: "House Bill 1676, offered by Representative Pedersen, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. House Bill 1686, offered by Representative McAuliffe, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. House Bill 1687, offered by Representative McAuliffe, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. House Bill 1688, offered by Representative McAuliffe, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. House Bill 1689, offered 46 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 by Representative Boland, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading and Introduction of these House Bills."

McLennand

"Introduction - First Reading of Bills. House Bill 1691, offered by Representative Andrea Moore, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. House Bill 1692, offered by Representative John Jones, a Bill for an Act relating to student members of governing boards of educational entities. House Bill 1693, offered by Representative Biggins, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. House Bill 1694, offered by Representative Winkel, a Bill for an Act in relation to the Cooperative Extension Service, amending named Acts. House Bill 1695, offered by Representative Roskam, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Introduction and First Reading of these House Bills."

Clerk Rossi

"Introduction - First Reading of Bills. House Bill 1696, offered by Representative Winkel, a Bill for an Act concerning collegiate license plates. House Bill 1697, offered by Representative Rutherford, a Bill for an Act to amend the Counties Code. House Bill 1698, offered by Representative Rutherford, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relation to hospital liens. House Bill 1699, offered by Representative Wojcik, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Community College Act. House Bill 1700, offered by Representative Blagojevich, a Bill for an Act to amend the Workers' Compensation Act. House Bill 1701, offered by Representative Pedersen, a Bill for an Act regarding local occupation and use tax rate limitations. House Bill 1702, offered by Representative Davis, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. House Bill 1703, offered by Representative Kenner, a Bill for an 47 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. House Bill 1704, offered by Representative Kenner, a Bill for an Act to amend the Personnel Code. House Bill 1705, offered by Representative Boland, a Bill for an Act concerning the creation of special collegiate license plates. House Bill 1706, offered by Representative John Turner, a Bill for an Act in relation to aggravated battery of a child. House Bill 1707, offered by Representative Ciarlo, a Bill for an Act to create the offense of aggravated domestic battery. House Bill 1708, offered by Representative O'Connor, a Bill for an Act in relation to compelling organization membership. House Bill 1709, offered by Representative Klingler, a Bill for an Act in relation to the penalties for criminal sexual assault and aggravated criminal sexual assault. First Reading of these House Bills."

McLennand

"Introduction - First Reading of Bills. House Bill 1710, offered by Representative Biggins, a Bill for an Act regarding the Occupation and Use Taxes. House Bill 1711, offered by Representative Saviano, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Highway Code. House Bill 1712, offered by Representative Cross, a Bill for an Act to amend the Adoption Act. House Bill 1693, offered by Representative Mitchell, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. House Bill 1713, offered by Representative Kubik, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. House Bill 1714, offered by Representative Rutherford, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. House Bill 1715, offered by Representative Rutherford, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. House Bill 1716, offered by Representative Rutherford, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. House Bill 1717, offered by Representative Rutherford, a Bill for an 48 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 Act concerning the tabulation of absentee ballots. House Bill 1718, offered by Representative Boland, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. House Bill 1719, offered by Representative Saltsman, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relation to compensation for workplace injuries and diseases. Introduction and First Reading of these House Bills."

Clerk Rossi

"Introduction - First Reading of Bills. House Bill 1720, offered by Representative Parke, a Bill for an Act to amend the Workers' Compensation Act. House Bill 1721, offered by Representative Parke, a Bill for an Act concerning the leasing and ownership of condominiums. House Bill 1722, offered by Representative Tom Johnson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unified Code of Corrections. House Bill 1723, offered by Representative Flowers, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. House Bill 1724, offered by Representative Jay Hoffman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. House Bill 1725, offered by Representative Wait, a Bill for an Act to amend the Counties Code. House Bill 1726, offered by Representative Maureen Murphy, a Bill for an Act concerning leases of real property. House Bill 1727, offered by Representative Maureen Murphy, a Bill for an Act to amend the Lessor's Liability Act. House Bill 1728, offered by Representative Art Turner, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. House Bill 1729, offered by Representative Art Turner, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Income Tax Act. House Bill 1730, offered by Representative Black, a Bill for an Act to revise the law by combining multiple enactments. House Bill 1731, offered by Representative Black, a Bill for an Act to recodify the Fees and Salaries Act. House Bill 1732, offered by Representative Black, a Bill for an 49 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 Act to recodify the Criminal Jurisprudence Act. House Bill 1733, offered by Representative Black, a Bill for an Act to revise the law by combining multiple enactments and making technical corrections. House Bill 1734, offered by Representative Tenhouse, a Bill for an Act in relation to the payment of court appointed counsel. House Bill 1735, offered by Representative Art Turner, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. House Bill 1736, offered by Representative John Jones, a Bill for an Act making appropriations. House Bill 1737, offered by Representative Brady, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. House Bill 1738, offered by Representative Brady, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. House Bill 1739, offered by Representative Brady, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. House Bill 1740, offered by Representative Brady, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. House Bill 1741, offered by Representative Cross, a Bill for an Act to amend the Adoption Act. House Bill 1742, offered by Representative Ryder, a Bill for an Act in relation to pharmaceuticals. House Bill 1743, offered by Representative Persico, a Bill for an Act to amend the Radiation Protection Act. House Bill 1744, offered by Representative Wojcik, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. House Bill 1745, offered by Representative Wojcik, a Bill for an Act concerning insurance benefits. House Bill 1746, offered by Representative Biggert, a Bill for an Act to amend the Consumer Installment Loan Act. House Bill 1747, offered by Representative Wojcik, a Bill for an Act to amend the Bureau of the Budget Act. First Reading of these House Bills." 50 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995

McLennand

"House Bill 1747, offered by Representative Wojcik, a Bill for an Act to amend the Bureau of the Budget Act. House Bill 1748, offered by Representative Roskam, a Bill for an Act concerning the Department of Labor, amending and repealing named Acts. House Bill 1749, offered by Representative Stephens, a Bill for an Act in relation to property tax caps. Introduction and First Reading of these House Bills."

McLennand

"Introduction and First Reading. House Bill 1750, offered by Representative Lou Jones, a Bill for an Act in relation to the practice of dental hygiene. House Bill 1751, offered by Representative Black, a Bill for an Act to amend the Private Sewage Disposal Licensing Act. House Bill 1752, offered by Representative Black, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. House Bill 1753, offered by Representative Clayton, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Introduction and First Reading of these House Bills."

McLennand

"Introduction and First Reading of Resolutions. House Joint Resolution #10, offered by Representative Meyer; House Joint Resolution #11, offered by Representative Weaver; House Joint Resolution #12, offered by Representative Zabrocki; House Joint Resolution #13, offered by Representative Pedersen; House Joint Resolution #14, offered by Representative Pedersen; House Resolution 16, offered by Representative Weaver; House Resolution 17, offered by Representative Bost; House Resolution 18, offered by Representative Moffitt; House Resolution 19, offered by Representative Poe; House Resolution 20, offered by Representative Biggins. Rules Committee."

McLennand

"Introduction and First Reading of Bills. House Bill 1754, offered by Representative Rutherford, a Bill for 51 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 an Act to amend the Retailers' Occupation Tax Act. First Reading and Introduction of these House Bills."

McLennand

"House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #18 RESOLVED, BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE EIGHTY-NINTH GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, THE SENATE CONCURRING HEREIN, that there shall be submitted to the electors of the State for adoption or rejection at the general election next occurring at least 6 months after the adoption of this resolution a proposition to add Section 8.1 of Article IV of the Illinois Constitution as follows: ARTICLE IV THE LEGISLATURE Section 8.1. Passage of Revenue Bills. (a) A Bill that would result in the increase of revenue to the State may become law only with the concurrence of three-fifths of the members elected to each house of the General Assembly. (b) Each house of the General Assembly shall have a revenue committee. It shall be the sole and the exclusive responsibility of the revenue committees to consider all Bills that would result in an increase or decrease of revenue to the State. A Bill pending in a revenue committee must be approved by a majority of members of that committee before it is sent to the full house for consideration or vote. (c) There shall be 25 members on the revenue committee in the House of Representatives. The members of the House Revenue Committee shall be appointed by the Speaker of the House and the House Minority Leader. The membership of the committee shall be proportionally as close arithmetically as possible to the percentage of members in the House of Representatives who vote for the Speaker and who vote for the Minority Leader. There shall be 13 members on the revenue committee in the Senate. The members of the Senate Revenue Committee shall be appointed by the President of 52 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 the Senate and the Senate Minority Leader. The membership of the committee shall be proportionally as close arithmetically as possible to the percentage of members in the Senate who vote for the Senate President and who vote for the Senate Minority Leader. Revenue committee members may be removed from the committee only by a majority, recorded, roll call vote of all members of the committee's respective chamber. No member of the General Assembly may serve more than 4 consecutive years on a revenue committee. (d) The revenue committees may not vote upon a Bill until a public hearing on the Bill has been held. Reasonable notice of the hearing, in no event less than 2 weeks, shall be given to the public. SCHEDULE This Constitutional Amendment takes effect upon approval by the electors of this State. First Reading of House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #18. The House Perfunctory Session shall be in recess until the hour of 4:00 p.m."

Clerk Rossi

"The Perfunctory Session will come to order. Introduction - First Reading of Bills. House Bill 1664, offered by Representative Black, a Bill for an Act to amend the Vital Records Act. House Bill 1755, offered by Representative Krause, a Bill for an Act concerning an Advisory Committee on Primary Care Medical Education. House Bill 1756, offered by Representative Krause, a Bill for an Act to amend the Family Practice Residency Act. House Bill 1757, offered by Representative Krause, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Income Tax Act. House Bill 1758, offered by Representative Krause, a Bill for an Act in relation to medical care. House Bill 1759, offered by Representative Holbrook, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Community College Act. House Bill 1760, offered by Representative Dart, a Bill for an Act to amend the 53 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 Department of Veterans Affairs Act. House Bill 1761, offered by Representative Dart, a Bill for an Act relating to the Sports Facilities Authority. House Bill 1762, offered by Representative Meyer, a Bill for an Act to amend the Property Tax Code. House Bill 1763, offered by Representative Erwin, a Bill for an Act to amend the Higher Education Student Assistance Act. House Bill 1764, offered by Representative Maureen Murphy, a Bill for an Act to amend the Retailers' Occupation Tax Act. House Bill 1765, offered by Representative Parke, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unemployment Insurance Act. House Bill 1766, offered by Representative Winkel, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. House Bill 1767, offered by Representative Lang, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Human Rights Act. House Bill 1768, offered by Representative Tenhouse, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. House Bill 1769, offered by Representative Howard, a Bill for an Act to amend the Deposit of State Moneys Act. House Bill 1770, offered by Representative Howard, a Bill for an Act to create the Southeast Metropolitan Area Industrial Development Study Act. House Bill 1771, offered by Representative Howard, a Bill for an Act concerning lending practice disclosure. House Bill 1772, offered by Representative Kenner, a Bill for an Act in relation to employment training. House Bill 1773, offered by Representative Schakowsky, a Bill for an Act to amend the Workers' Compensation Act. House Bill 1774, offered by Representative Schakowsky, a Bill for an Act to amend the Workers' Compensation Act. House Bill 1775, offered by Representative Schakowsky, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unemployment Insurance Act. House Bill 1776, offered by Representative Schakowsky, a Bill for an Act to amend the 54 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 Unemployment Insurance Act. House Bill 1777, offered by Representative Schakowsky, a Bill for an Act in relation to labor. House Bill 1778, offered by Representative Schakowsky, a Bill for an Act to amend the Prevailing Wage Act. House Bill 1779, offered by Representative Deering, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. House Bill 1780, offered by Representative McGuire, a Bill for an Act concerning workplace safety. House Bill 1781, offered by Representative Schakowsky, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. House Bill 1782, offered by Representative Burke, a Bill for an Act to amend the Consumer Fraud and Deceptive Business Practices Act. House Bill 1783, offered by Representative Kaszak, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. House Bill 1784, offered by Representative Burke, a Bill for an Act concerning the computation of finance charges relating to the prepayment of loans. House Bill 1785, offered by Representative Klingler, a Bill for an Act to amend the Counties Code. House Bill 1786, offered by Representative O'Connor, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Lottery Law. House Bill 1787, offered by Representative Kubik, a Bill for an Act in relation to gambling. House Bill 1788, offered by Representative Durkin, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Employees Group Insurance Act. House Bill 1789, offered by Representative Ciarlo, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Human Rights Act. House Bill 1790, offered by Representative Ciarlo, a Bill for an Act relating to the education of nurses in Illinois. House Bill 1791, offered by Representative Lyons, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relation to the names of State buildings. House Bill 1792, offered by Representative Zabrocki, a Bill for an Act in relation to criminal law. 55 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 House Bill 1793, offered by Representative Ciarlo, a Bill for an Act the Environmental Protection Act. House Bill 1794, offered by Representative Ciarlo, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. House Bill 1795, offered by Representative O'Connor, a Bill for an Act to amend the Uniform Disposition of Unclaimed Property Act. House Bill 1796, offered by Representative Clayton, a Bill for an Act concerning insurance transactions. House Bill 1797, offered by Representative Mitchell, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Human Rights Act. House Bill 1798, offered by Representative Spangler, a Bill for an Act concerning Nuclear Safety Preparedness. House Bill 1799, offered by Representative Mitchell, a Bill for an Act Illinois Financial Institutions Banking Act. House Bill 1800, offered by Representative Stephens, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. House Bill 1801, offered by Representative Leitch, a Bill for an Act to amend the Beer Industry Fair Dealings Act. House Bill 1802, Representative Leitch, Liquor Control Act. House Bill 1803, Representative Hannig, Illinois Insurance Code. House Bill 1804, RepresentativeWirsing, Workers' Compensation Act. House Bill 1805, Representative Biggert, Workers' Compensation Act. House Bill 1806, Representative Mitchell, Civil Administrative Code. House Bill 1807, offered by Representative Myers, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. House Bill 1808, offered by Representative Hoeft, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Human Rights Act. House Bill 1809, offered by Representative Skinner, a Bill for an Act in relation to notices to be given by certain contractors. House Bill 1810, offered by Representative Spangler, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Income Tax Act. House Bill 1811, 56 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 offered by Representative Hannig, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts to create a State Compensation Insurance Fund. House Bill 1812, offered by Representative Flowers, a Bill for an Act to amend the Workers' Compensation Act. House Bill 1813, offered by Representative McGuire, a Bill for an Act to amend the Workers' Compensation Act. House Bill 1814, offered by Representative McGuire, a Bill for an Act to amend the Workers' Compensation Act. House Bill 1815, offered by Representative Hoffman, a Bill for an Act in relation to labor. House Bill 1816, offered by Representative Hanrahan, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. House Bill 1817, offered by Representative Black, a Bill for an Act concerning a demonstration program for unemployed persons with minor children. House Bill 1818, offered by Representative Black, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. House Bill 1819, offered by Representative Meyer, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. House Bill 1820, offered by Representative Davis, a Bill for an Act in relation to privatization of government services. House Bill 1821, offered by Representative Erwin, a Bill for an Act to amend the Attorney General Act. House Bill 1822, offered by Representative Deering, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. House Bill 1823, offered by Representative Deering, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. House Bill 1824, offered by Representative Woolard, a Bill for an Act to amend the Workers' Compensation Act. House Bill 1825, offered by Representative Andrea Moore, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. House Bill 1826, offered by Representative Ryder, a Bill for an Act to amend the Asbestos Abatement Act. House Bill 1827, offered by Representative Moffitt, a 57 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 Bill for an Act regarding disaster relief exemptions. House Bill 1828, offered by Representative Moffitt, a Bill for an Act to amend the Property Tax Code. House Bill 1829, offered by Representative Kubik, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. House Bill 1830, offered by Representative Kubik, a Bill for an Act to amend the Motor Fuel Tax Law. House Bill 1831, offered by Representative Winters, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Income Tax Act. House Bill 1832, offered by Representative Winters, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Income Tax Act. First Reading of these House Bills."

Clerk Rossi

"Committee Reports. Representative Hughes, Chairman from the Committee on Counties and Townships, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken on February 15, 1995, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass Short Debate' House Bill 340, House Bill 505, House Bill 513. 'do pass as amended Short Debate' House Bill 567." Introduction - First Reading of

Bills. Clerk Rossi

Bills. Clerk Rossi: "House Bill 1833, offered by Representative Mitchell, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Financial Institutions Banking Act. House Bill 1834, offered by Representative Speaker Daniels, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Aid Code. (sic-in relation to compensation for State's attorneys). First Reading of these House Bills."

Clerk Rossi

"Introduction and First Reading of House Resolutions, House Resolution 21, offered by Representative Maureen Murphy."

McLennand

"Introduction and First Reading. House Bill 1835, offered by Representative Harold Murphy, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Lottery Law. House Bill 1836, offered by Representative Biggert, a Bill for an Act to 58 17th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 15, 1995 amend the Public Aid Code. First Reading and Introduction of these House Bills."

McLennand

"House Perfunctory Session will be in recess until the hour of 6:00 p.m."

Clerk Rossi

"The Perfunctory Session will come to order. Committee Reports. Representative Persico, Chairman from the Committee on Environment and Energy, to which to following Bill was referred, action taken on February 15, 1995, reported the same back with the following recommendation, 'do pass as amended Short Debate' House Bill 358."

Clerk Rossi

"Introduction of Bills. House Bill 1837, offered by Representative Biggert, a Bill for an Act to amend the Uniform Commercial Code. House Bill 1838, offered by Representative Krause, a Bill for an Act to amend the Nursing Home Care Act. House Bill 1839, offered by Representative Maureen Murphy, a Bill for an Act in relation to the privatization of State services. House Bill 1840, offered by Representative Biggert, a Bill for an Act to amend the Housing Authorities Act. House Bill 1841, offered by Representative Churchill, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Research Park Authority Act. House Bill 1842, offered by Representative Pedersen, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. House Bill 1843, offered by Representative Hanrahan, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. House Bill 1844, offered by Representative Meyer, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. House Bill 1845, offered by Representative Pedersen, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. House Bill 1846, offered by Representative Tom Johnson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. House Bill 1847, offered by 59 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 17th Legislative Day February 15, 1995 Representative Meyer, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. House Bill 1848, offered by Representative Tom Johnson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. House Bill 1849, offered by Representative Moffitt, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of these House Bills."

Clerk Rossi

"Committee Reports. Representative Wirsing, Chairman from the Committee on Higher Education, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken on February 15, 1995, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do adopt' Senate Bill 241, Senate Bill 242, and 'do pass Short Debate' House Bill 598. No further business the House will stand adjourned until Thursday, February 16, 1995 at 1:30 p.m. The House now stands adjourned." 60 REPORT: TIFLDAY PAGE: 001 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX FEBRUARY 15, 1995 96/08/06 10:25:52 HB-0020 SECOND READING PAGE 32 HB-0032 THIRD READING PAGE 23 HB-0032 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 4 HB-0207 SECOND READING PAGE 33 HB-0211 THIRD READING PAGE 17 HB-0545 SECOND READING PAGE 33 HB-0561 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-0573 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-0632 SECOND READING PAGE 32 HB-0632 HELD ON SECOND PAGE 3 HB-1503 FIRST READING PAGE 35 HB-1504 FIRST READING PAGE 35 HB-1505 FIRST READING PAGE 35 HB-1506 FIRST READING PAGE 35 HB-1507 FIRST READING PAGE 35 HB-1508 FIRST READING PAGE 35 HB-1509 FIRST READING PAGE 35 HB-1510 FIRST READING PAGE 35 HB-1511 FIRST READING PAGE 35 HB-1512 FIRST READING PAGE 35 HB-1513 FIRST READING PAGE 35 HB-1514 FIRST READING. PAGE 35 HB-1515 FIRST READING PAGE 36 HB-1516 FIRST READING PAGE 36 HB-1517 FIRST READING PAGE 36 HB-1518 FIRST READING PAGE 36 HB-1519 FIRST READING PAGE 36 HB-1520 FIRST READING PAGE 36 HB-1521 FIRST READING PAGE 36 HB-1522 FIRST READING PAGE 36 HB-1523 FIRST READING PAGE 36 HB-1524 FIRST READING PAGE 36 HB-1525 FIRST READING PAGE 36 HB-1526 FIRST READING PAGE 36 HB-1527 FIRST READING PAGE 36 HB-1528 FIRST READING PAGE 36 HB-1529 FIRST READING PAGE 36 HB-1530 FIRST READING PAGE 36 HB-1531 FIRST READING PAGE 36 HB-1532 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-1533 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-1534 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-1535 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-1536 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-1537 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-1538 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-1539 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-1540 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-1541 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-1542 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-1543 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-1544 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-1545 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-1546 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-1547 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-1548 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-1549 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-1550 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-1551 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-1552 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-1553 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-1554 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-1555 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-1556 FIRST READING PAGE 38 REPORT: TIFLDAY PAGE: 002 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX FEBRUARY 15, 1995 96/08/06 10:25:52 HB-1557 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-1558 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-1559 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-1560 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-1561 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-1562 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-1563 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-1564 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-1565 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HB-1566 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HB-1567 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HB-1568 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HB-1569 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HB-1570 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HB-1571 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HB-1572 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HB-1573 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HB-1574 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HB-1575 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HB-1576 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HB-1577 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HB-1578 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HB-1579 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HB-1580 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HB-1581 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HB-1582 FIRST READING PAGE 40 HB-1583 FIRST READING PAGE 40 HB-1584 FIRST READING PAGE 40 HB-1585 FIRST READING PAGE 40 HB-1586 FIRST READING PAGE 40 HB-1587 FIRST READING PAGE 40 HB-1588 FIRST READING PAGE 40 HB-1589 FIRST READING PAGE 40 HB-1590 FIRST READING PAGE 40 HB-1591 FIRST READING PAGE 40 HB-1592 FIRST READING PAGE 40 HB-1593 FIRST READING PAGE 40 HB-1594 FIRST READING PAGE 40 HB-1595 FIRST READING PAGE 40 HB-1596 FIRST READING PAGE 41 HB-1597 FIRST READING PAGE 41 HB-1598 FIRST READING PAGE 41 HB-1599 FIRST READING PAGE 41 HB-1600 FIRST READING PAGE 41 HB-1601 FIRST READING PAGE 41 HB-1602 FIRST READING PAGE 41 HB-1603 FIRST READING PAGE 41 HB-1604 FIRST READING PAGE 41 HB-1605 FIRST READING PAGE 41 HB-1606 FIRST READING PAGE 41 HB-1607 FIRST READING PAGE 41 HB-1608 FIRST READING PAGE 41 HB-1609 FIRST READING PAGE 41 HB-1610 FIRST READING PAGE 41 HB-1611 FIRST READING PAGE 42 HB-1612 FIRST READING PAGE 42 HB-1613 FIRST READING PAGE 42 HB-1614 FIRST READING PAGE 42 HB-1615 FIRST READING PAGE 42 HB-1616 FIRST READING PAGE 42 HB-1617 FIRST READING PAGE 42 HB-1618 FIRST READING PAGE 42 HB-1619 FIRST READING PAGE 42 HB-1620 FIRST READING PAGE 42 REPORT: TIFLDAY PAGE: 003 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX FEBRUARY 15, 1995 96/08/06 10:25:52 HB-1621 FIRST READING PAGE 42 HB-1622 FIRST READING PAGE 42 HB-1623 FIRST READING PAGE 42 HB-1624 FIRST READING PAGE 42 HB-1625 FIRST READING PAGE 42 HB-1626 FIRST READING PAGE 43 HB-1627 FIRST READING PAGE 43 HB-1628 FIRST READING PAGE 43 HB-1629 FIRST READING PAGE 43 HB-1630 FIRST READING PAGE 43 HB-1631 FIRST READING PAGE 43 HB-1632 FIRST READING PAGE 43 HB-1633 FIRST READING PAGE 43 HB-1634 FIRST READING PAGE 43 HB-1635 FIRST READING PAGE 43 HB-1636 FIRST READING PAGE 43 HB-1637 FIRST READING PAGE 43 HB-1638 FIRST READING PAGE 43 HB-1639 FIRST READING PAGE 43 HB-1640 FIRST READING PAGE 43 HB-1641 FIRST READING PAGE 43 HB-1642 FIRST READING PAGE 43 HB-1643 FIRST READING PAGE 44 HB-1644 FIRST READING PAGE 44 HB-1645 FIRST READING PAGE 44 HB-1646 FIRST READING PAGE 44 HB-1647 FIRST READING PAGE 44 HB-1648 FIRST READING PAGE 44 HB-1649 FIRST READING PAGE 44 HB-1650 FIRST READING PAGE 44 HB-1651 FIRST READING PAGE 44 HB-1652 FIRST READING PAGE 44 HB-1653 FIRST READING PAGE 44 HB-1654 FIRST READING PAGE 44 HB-1655 FIRST READING PAGE 44 HB-1656 FIRST READING PAGE 44 HB-1657 FIRST READING PAGE 44 HB-1658 FIRST READING PAGE 44 HB-1659 FIRST READING PAGE 44 HB-1660 FIRST READING PAGE 45 HB-1661 FIRST READING PAGE 45 HB-1662 FIRST READING PAGE 45 HB-1663 FIRST READING PAGE 45 HB-1664 FIRST READING PAGE 53 HB-1665 FIRST READING PAGE 45 HB-1666 FIRST READING PAGE 45 HB-1667 FIRST READING PAGE 45 HB-1668 FIRST READING PAGE 45 HB-1669 FIRST READING PAGE 45 HB-1670 FIRST READING PAGE 45 HB-1671 FIRST READING PAGE 45 HB-1672 FIRST READING PAGE 45 HB-1673 FIRST READING PAGE 45 HB-1674 FIRST READING PAGE 46 HB-1675 FIRST READING PAGE 46 HB-1676 FIRST READING PAGE 46 HB-1677 FIRST READING PAGE 46 HB-1678 FIRST READING PAGE 46 HB-1679 FIRST READING PAGE 46 HB-1680 FIRST READING PAGE 46 HB-1681 FIRST READING PAGE 46 HB-1682 FIRST READING PAGE 46 HB-1683 FIRST READING PAGE 46 HB-1684 FIRST READING PAGE 46 REPORT: TIFLDAY PAGE: 004 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX FEBRUARY 15, 1995 96/08/06 10:25:52 HB-1685 FIRST READING PAGE 46 HB-1686 FIRST READING PAGE 46 HB-1687 FIRST READING PAGE 46 HB-1688 FIRST READING PAGE 46 HB-1689 FIRST READING PAGE 46 HB-1690 FIRST READING PAGE 45 HB-1691 FIRST READING PAGE 47 HB-1692 FIRST READING PAGE 47 HB-1693 FIRST READING PAGE 47 HB-1693 FIRST READING PAGE 48 HB-1694 FIRST READING PAGE 47 HB-1695 FIRST READING PAGE 47 HB-1696 FIRST READING PAGE 47 HB-1697 FIRST READING PAGE 47 HB-1698 FIRST READING PAGE 47 HB-1699 FIRST READING PAGE 47 HB-1700 FIRST READING PAGE 47 HB-1701 FIRST READING PAGE 47 HB-1702 FIRST READING PAGE 47 HB-1703 FIRST READING PAGE 47 HB-1704 FIRST READING PAGE 48 HB-1705 FIRST READING PAGE 48 HB-1706 FIRST READING PAGE 48 HB-1707 FIRST READING PAGE 48 HB-1708 FIRST READING PAGE 48 HB-1709 FIRST READING PAGE 48 HB-1710 FIRST READING PAGE 48 HB-1711 FIRST READING PAGE 48 HB-1712 FIRST READING PAGE 48 HB-1713 FIRST READING PAGE 48 HB-1714 FIRST READING PAGE 48 HB-1715 FIRST READING PAGE 48 HB-1716 FIRST READING PAGE 48 HB-1717 FIRST READING PAGE 48 HB-1718 FIRST READING PAGE 49 HB-1719 FIRST READING PAGE 49 HB-1720 FIRST READING PAGE 49 HB-1721 FIRST READING PAGE 49 HB-1722 FIRST READING PAGE 49 HB-1723 FIRST READING PAGE 49 HB-1724 FIRST READING PAGE 49 HB-1725 FIRST READING PAGE 49 HB-1726 FIRST READING PAGE 49 HB-1727 FIRST READING PAGE 49 HB-1728 FIRST READING PAGE 49 HB-1729 FIRST READING PAGE 49 HB-1730 FIRST READING PAGE 49 HB-1731 FIRST READING PAGE 49 HB-1732 FIRST READING PAGE 49 HB-1733 FIRST READING PAGE 50 HB-1734 FIRST READING PAGE 50 HB-1735 FIRST READING PAGE 50 HB-1736 FIRST READING PAGE 50 HB-1737 FIRST READING PAGE 50 HB-1738 FIRST READING PAGE 50 HB-1739 FIRST READING PAGE 50 HB-1740 FIRST READING PAGE 50 HB-1741 FIRST READING PAGE 50 HB-1742 FIRST READING PAGE 50 HB-1743 FIRST READING PAGE 50 HB-1744 FIRST READING PAGE 50 HB-1745 FIRST READING PAGE 50 HB-1746 FIRST READING PAGE 50 HB-1747 FIRST READING PAGE 50 REPORT: TIFLDAY PAGE: 005 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX FEBRUARY 15, 1995 96/08/06 10:25:52 HB-1748 FIRST READING PAGE 51 HB-1749 FIRST READING PAGE 51 HB-1750 FIRST READING PAGE 51 HB-1751 FIRST READING PAGE 51 HB-1752 FIRST READING PAGE 51 HB-1753 FIRST READING PAGE 51 HB-1754 FIRST READING PAGE 51 HB-1755 FIRST READING PAGE 53 HB-1756 FIRST READING PAGE 53 HB-1757 FIRST READING PAGE 53 HB-1758 FIRST READING PAGE 53 HB-1759 FIRST READING PAGE 53 HB-1760 FIRST READING PAGE 53 HB-1761 FIRST READING PAGE 54 HB-1762 FIRST READING PAGE 54 HB-1763 FIRST READING PAGE 54 HB-1764 FIRST READING PAGE 54 HB-1765 FIRST READING PAGE 54 HB-1766 FIRST READING PAGE 54 HB-1767 FIRST READING PAGE 54 HB-1768 FIRST READING PAGE 54 HB-1769 FIRST READING PAGE 54 HB-1770 FIRST READING PAGE 54 HB-1771 FIRST READING PAGE 54 HB-1772 FIRST READING PAGE 54 HB-1773 FIRST READING PAGE 54 HB-1774 FIRST READING PAGE 54 HB-1775 FIRST READING PAGE 54 HB-1776 FIRST READING PAGE 54 HB-1777 FIRST READING PAGE 55 HB-1778 FIRST READING PAGE 55 HB-1779 FIRST READING PAGE 55 HB-1780 FIRST READING PAGE 55 HB-1781 FIRST READING PAGE 55 HB-1782 FIRST READING PAGE 55 HB-1783 FIRST READING PAGE 55 HB-1784 FIRST READING PAGE 55 HB-1785 FIRST READING PAGE 55 HB-1786 FIRST READING PAGE 55 HB-1787 FIRST READING PAGE 55 HB-1788 FIRST READING PAGE 55 HB-1789 FIRST READING PAGE 55 HB-1790 FIRST READING PAGE 55 HB-1791 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HB-1819 FIRST READING PAGE 57 HB-1820 FIRST READING PAGE 57 HB-1821 FIRST READING PAGE 57 HB-1822 FIRST READING PAGE 57 HB-1823 FIRST READING PAGE 57 HB-1824 FIRST READING PAGE 57 HB-1825 FIRST READING PAGE 57 HB-1826 FIRST READING PAGE 57 HB-1827 FIRST READING PAGE 57 HB-1828 FIRST READING PAGE 58 HB-1829 FIRST READING PAGE 58 HB-1830 FIRST READING PAGE 58 HB-1831 FIRST READING PAGE 58 HB-1832 FIRST READING PAGE 58 HB-1833 FIRST READING PAGE 58 HB-1834 FIRST READING PAGE 58 HB-1835 FIRST READING PAGE 58 HB-1836 FIRST READING PAGE 58 HB-1837 FIRST READING PAGE 59 HB-1838 FIRST READING PAGE 59 HB-1839. FIRST READING PAGE 59 HB-1840.FIRST READING PAGE 59 HB-1841 FIRST READING PAGE 59 HB-18 REPORT: TIFLDAY PAGE: 007 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX FEBRUARY 15, 1995 SUBJECT MATTER 96/08/06 10:25:52 COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 58 PERFUNCTORY RECESS PAGE 59 PERFUNCTORY SESSION TO ORDER PAGE 59 COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 59 COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 60 PERFUNCTORY SESSION ADJOURNMENT PAGE 60