“Welcome back, everyone. The hour of 2:00 having arrived, the Members will please be in their chairs and the House will be in order. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off all cell phones and pagers, and rise for the invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance. We will be led in prayer today by Pastor Sandra Jewell with Trinity Lutheran Church in Kankakee. Pastor Jewell is the guest of Representative Dugan.”
Pastor Jewell: “Let us pray. Dear God, our creator and provider. We come to You as Your children. We come from different parts of the world. We have come with various beliefs. We are of different colors, hues, ethnicity and cultures. We are male, we are female, young, old, some of us are seasoned public servants. Others are new but all are Yours. We are here for two reason at this point, Father. First to say, thank You. Thank You for who You are, for being such a loving and all wise, ever present God. You have kept each of us during our times of trials and indecision. You held us through rocky roads, as well as in smooth places. We come to thank You for what we did not have to go through. Yes, God, we know that everything we did go through was designed for each of us to win, tailored just so that every one of us would go through, learn and succeed. Next, dear God, we come to ask You to hear our prayer. Saint Matthew has told us that You wanted us to ask and said we would receive, to knock and the door would be open, to seek and the world would… we would find. 09400037.doc 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 We ask today for You to be with the Members of this Assembly, so that they will keep their minds and hearts clear. They will make the needed decisions, decisions that will benefit all citizens of Illinois. We ask that You’d let their deliberations reflect Your love and they seek to understand each other and the needs of their constituents. We come to knock at the door, heaven’s door. Though we have no other place to go. No other God in which to believe. As written in Revelations, You stand at the door of our hearts and You are requesting to be let in. We’re letting You in today. We want just that, God, hear our prayer today. These here that are chosen for this time before the beginning of time, have the responsibility to listen to shattered dreams, help hungry desires, empathize thirsty cries to be filled with something better and mend broken hearts. They are Yours, Lord, to listen to indecision, hurt and pain. Now, God, we end as we began by saying, thank You. Thank You for letting us ask, seek and knock and especially for answered prayer. This prayer we offer You. Amen.”
“And Representative Reitz will lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance.”
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
Speaker Hannig: “Roll Call for Attendance. Representative Currie.” 09400037.doc 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record show that Representatives Fritchey, May, and McKeon are excused today.”
“The record will so reflect. Representative Bost.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let the record reflect that Representative Dunn and Representative Black are excused today.”
“Thank you, Representative Bost, and the record will so reflect. Representative Monique Davis, for what reason do you rise?” Davis, M.: “Yes, I wanted the Body to welcome the students from Illinois College in Jacksonville, Illinois. Would you give them a hand?”
“Mr. Clerk, take the record. There are 112 Members answering the Roll Call, a quorum is present. Representative Dunkin, for what reason do you rise?”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Today is a day that I would like to express my gratitude for all of you wonderful folk who voted for me in the last couple of Bills. And I brought some… some doughnuts to express my gratitude to all of those 12 people who voted for me over the last twi… two times. Thank you. Doughnuts are coming right now. Krispy Kremes for everyone.”
“Representative Mautino.”
“Well, thank you and while everyone’s getting their Krispy Kremes there. Mr. Speaker, and I know how well you 09400037.doc 3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 maintain your car. As you may or may not be aware, April 2005 was commemorated as Car Care Month by House Resolution 107. In keeping with the spirit of that Resolution, let me give you some important facts regarding proper tire inflation, especially for SUVs. Did you know that under inflation is the leading cause of tire failure? Ninety- five percent of your vehicle’s weight is supported by the tire’s air pressure wil… with the tires supporting just 5 percent, making a critical part of the tire’s ability to perform. Good reasons to measure your tire pressure include: reducing tire failure, improve vehicle handling, improve stopping distance, improve tire life, improve fuel economy. The correct tire pressure can be found in the following places: in the car owner’s manual, the gas tank lid, the driver’s side door’s edge and the door post. And I know that you, Mr. Hannig, above all, appreciate those tips.”
Speaker Hannig: “Thank you, Representative Mautino. Representative Stephens, do you have something you’d like to add to that?”
“Mr. Chairman, this is the third day that we’ve heard these notices and updates. I still don’t have my vehicle back, my vehicle back from Representative Phelps. Now I… there’s only so much time I can wait. I thought he’d be done cleaning the tires, vacuuming, straightening out the engine and rotating ‘em. I think he had Representative Smith helped him rotate the tires and now Representative 09400037.doc 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 Mautino is going to check the air pressure. When will I ever get my vehicle back?”
“We’ll just have a committee look into that, Representative Stephens. Mr. Clerk, you have Committee Reports?”
Clerk Mahoney: “Committee Reports. Representative Barbara Flynn Currie, Chairperson from the Committee on Rules, to which the following legislative measures and/or Joint Action Motions were referred, action taken on April 11, 2005, reported the same back with the following recommendation/s: 'approved for floor consideration' Amendment #3 to House Bill 442, Amendment #3 to House Bill 483, Amendment #1 to House Bill 881, Amendment #2 to House Bill 930, Amendment #3 to House Bill 1038, Amendment #2 to House Bill 1351, Amendment #2 to House Bill 1397, Amendment #3 to House Bill 1428, Amendment #3 to House Bill 1633, Amendment #2 to House Bill 2521, Amendment #2 to House Bill 2578, Amendment #3 to House Bill 2946, Amendment #2 to House Bill 3415, Amendment #1 to House Bill 3449, Amendment #1 to House Bill 3498, Amendment #1 to House Bill 3685, Amendment #1 to House Bill 3770, and Amendment #2 to House Bill 3801. Representative Hoffman, Chairperson from the Committee on Transportation & Motor Vehicles, to which the following measure/s was/were referred, action taken on April 11, 2005, reported the same back with the following recommendation/s: 'recommends be adopted' Amendment #1 to House Bill 2217, Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 2348, and Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 2593. Representative 09400037.doc 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 Delgado, Chairperson from the Committee on Human Services, which the following measure/s was/were referred, action taken on April 11, 2005, reported the same back with the following recommendation/s: 'recommends be adopted' Floor Amendment #4 to House Bill 480. Representative Giles, Chairperson from the Committee on Elementary & Secondary Education, which the following measure/s was/were referred, action taken on April 11, 2005, reported the same back with the following recommendation/s: 'recommends be adopted' Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 3500. Representative Fritchey, Chairperson from the Committee on Registration & Regulation, which the following measure/s was/were referred, action taken on April 11, 2005, reported the same back with the following recommendation/s: 'recommends be adopted' is Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 2525 and Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 2768. Representative Burke, Chairperson from the Committee on Executive, which the following measure/s was/were referred, action taken on April 11, 2005, reported the same back with the following recommendation/s: 'recommends be adopted' Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 2414.”
“On page 24 of the Calendar, under the Order of House Bills-Third Reading, is House Bill 716. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill, please.”
“House Bill 716, a Bill for an Act concerning criminal law. Third Reading of this House Bill.” 09400037.doc 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Representative Beiser? Okay. Out of the record. How about House Bill 3770, Representative? Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.”
“House Bill… House Bill 3770 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Beiser has been approved for consideration.”
“Representative Beiser.”
“Yes, Mr. Speaker. At this time, we’d like to ask for the favorable approval of the Amendment #1. It’s a technical change, basically. It replaces the word ‘construction’ with ‘state construction account’.”
“The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1. Is there any discussion? Then all in favor say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
“No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Third Reading. And Representative, you also have House Bill 2241. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. It’s on the Order of the… Okay, we’re gonna have to come back to that one until we pass out the Supplemental Calendar. On page 4 of the regular Calendar is House Bill 442. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill, please.”
“House Bill 442 has been read a second time, previously. Amendment #1 was approved in committee. Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Rose, has been approved for consideration.”
“Representative Bassi on the Amendment.” 09400037.doc 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The underlying Bill talks about a motor vehicle that has been in a speed chase of trying to avoid a police officer. And says that if… then if it… once that car has avoided the police officer, it is possible to tow the car once… if… if they find it later. What the Amendment does, at the… at the request of Representative Fritchey, is to make sure that if the car has been stolen or if someone else other than… than the owner was driving the car that the civil penalties will not be incurred once they find out who… who’s responsible. And I would request the adoption of the Amendment.”
“Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
“No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Third Reading. On page 3 of the Calendar is House Bill 323. Mr. Clerk, would you read that Bill.”
“House Bill 323, Second Reading of this House Bill. Amendment #1 was approved in committee. Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Black, has been approved for consideration.”
“Representative Franks… Representative Franks, I’m advised that you’re going to handle this Amendment in Representative Black’s absence.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe we’re here for House Amendment, I’m sorry, Floor Amendment #3?”
“That’s correct” 09400037.doc 8 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Give me one moment. Thank you. The underlying Bill would require each state-owned vehicle to have a small state seal decal on its driver’s side drawer and a trunk that states the name of the agency using the vehicle. Amendment #3 amends the Bill indicating that this shall… this shall not apply to vehicle used by elective state officers, by executive heads of state agencies and departments, by presidents of colleges or universities placed under control of the officers of the state or by any employee of a state agency. I’d be glad to answer any questions.”
“And on the Amendment, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Parke.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?”
“He indicates he’ll yield.”
“Representative, my understanding is that Amendment 3 becomes the Bill?”
“Yes, it does.”
“And the State Police are supporting this Bill as long as their vehicles remain exempt. Is that… is that your understanding.”
“I don’t have a note here on what the State Police position is, Mr. Parke.”
“Our analysis says that that’s true and with that then we don’t have any problem. So, when the Bill comes up for Third Reading, Amendment 3 will be the Bill… will be… will be the Bill that we’ll vote on. So, thank you.”
“Thank you, Mr. Parke.” 09400037.doc 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Any further discussion? Then all in favor say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
“No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Third Reading. On page 20 of the Calendar is House Bill 3624. Mr. Clerk, would you read Bill.”
“House Bill 3624 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Black, has been approved for consideration.”
“Is Representative Mitchell available to handle this Amendment? Why don’t we take this out of the record until we can… until we can find someone to help Representative Black on this Amendment. On page… on page 14 of the Calendar is House Bill 2414 for Representative Acevedo. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.”
“House Bill 2414 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Acevedo, has been approved for consideration.”
Speaker Hannig: “The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Acevedo.”
“Mr. Speaker, I… I believe that Amendment was passed to the committee.”
“It… it was approved by… Mr. Clerk, was that approved by a committee or did that come from straight from Rules?” 09400037.doc 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“It was approved by committee this morning, Mr. Speaker.”
“Okay. So, now it’s… you make a Motion to… came out of the Exec Committee, Representative.”
“Make a Motion…”
“Okay.”
“…make a Motion to adopt Amendment #1…”
“Okay.”
“…to House Bill…”
“So, Represent… Representative Acevedo moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Parke is recognized.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?”
“Indicates he’ll yield.”
“Representative, when you presented the Bill this morning, can you just give us a highlight, maybe three of the points on this legislation that were changed by your Amendment?”
“A few of… of the points, some provisions were eliminated from the Bill, Representative. One of ‘em was grenade launchers, another one was bayonet mounts, and we also eliminated the peace officers in the line of duty while in… in their active duty.”
“Did this remove the operate… the opposition of the NRA and the… the other groups that are concerned about Second Amendment rights?” 09400037.doc 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Well, Representative, due to further negotiations, I believe we’ve come closer. I don’t know if it completely removed the opposition of the NRA. I know they were involved in negotiations and the grenade launchers, the bayonet, and the peace officers were all included and part of the negotiations.”
“Okay. Well, it’s our understanding that the NRA is still in opposition to this Bill as amended. So, I guess we’ll fight that battle when it’s on Third Reading, unless someone else has questions. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.”
“Any further discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
“No further Amendments. However, a note… a fiscal note has been requested and not yet received.”
“So, Representative Acevedo, there’s been a request for a fiscal note. We’ll have to hold the Bill on Second until you can get that fiscal note filed. Okay? So, that will remain on the Order of Second Reading. Representative Bailey, you have House Bill 1289. That’s on page 26 of the Calendar. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.”
“House Bill 1289, a Bill for an Act concerning liquor. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“The Lady from Cook, Representative Bailey.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 1289 amends the Liquor Control Act of 1934. Basically, it clarifies that 09400037.doc 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 those distributors who are continuous compliance taxpayers who acquire or merge with other importing distributors shall not be deem… shall continue to be deemed prior continuous compliance with taxpayer and shall not be required to post an additional surety bond. And I ask for an ‘aye’ vote.”
“This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting ‘present’. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 26 of the Calendar is House Bill 2355, Representative Brauer. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.”
“House Bill 2355, a Bill for an Act concerning regulation. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“Representative Brauer.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Body here. According to the Dept of Ag, the fiscal impact of House Bill 2355 is 3.6 million. There are 4,900 retail locations that sell motor fuel to public in Illinois. The average cost per location is 734.70. That usual takes about two hours to perform these inspections. That’s amounts of $367.35 an hour. Three percent of the dispensers are found to be out of compliance and a certified and trained 09400037.doc 13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 technician is hired to repair that dispenser. I will be glad to answer any questions.”
“This is on the Order of Short Debate. And in response, Representative Cultra is recognized.”
“Thank you. To the Bill.”
“To the Bill.”
“We have rather a novel idea here in Springfield. We’re actually gonna pass a Bill that’s gonna save businesses in the State of Illinois some money. There are 92,500 fuel pumps in the State of Illinois and presently it costs ‘em $18 a piece to have those tested, when that could be done private entity for probably around $5. So, I rise in strong support of House Bill 2355.”
“Representative Reitz, for what reason do you rise?”
“Questions of the Sponsor.”
“Sponsor will yield.”
“Thank you. Representative, I… I guess I’m looking at the analysis from the Department of Agriculture. Did they… do you have the fiscal impact for this Bill? Or…”
“Yes, I do. It was 3.6 million.”
“Including… and… and it’s 1.7 for the fees charged at the pump for inspection fees, is that the… the note you have? Or…”
“I don’t have that in front of me, but I will check that and get back to you.”
“I guess one of the con… concerns I have, I… I think if you could… ya know, there may be a way to work this out 09400037.doc 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 somehow with the Department of Agriculture. I… I understand what you’re trying to do and the concerns that the petroleum marketers have. But I… I think we have… you know, we do have a problem with the budget in this state and… and if there… there’s a way to do that and minimize the impact that we have on the state revenue would… would be good. I guess the other question, you don’t… will this… has anyone indicated if this will adversely impact the… the Department of Weights and Measures within the Department of Agriculture?”
“No. I… I don’t think it will. What it will do is take some of the responsibility away from ‘em. When a pump is found out of compliance, what happens, they call in these private contractors. The private contractor then fixes the pump, puts a seal on it, and then that pump isn’t inspected again for the next year. So, what this will actually do is lower the cost to businesses in… in this state. And I think that as we look at our responsibility, our responsibility is to keep businesses in the state. This is a business friendly Bill.”
“I agree. Is it not, also, our responsibility to make sure that the consumers are getting a gallon for a gallon of gas?”
“Well, I don’t think that’s the issue here. ‘Cause what… what you have here is one of these pumps, 3 percent of ‘em are found out of compliance every year. The Department of Ag doesn’t fix the pumps. The private contractors come in, they fix a pump, they tag ‘em, and 09400037.doc 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 then the state doesn’t even come back to inspect ‘em. So, that responsibility is placed on these private contractors. And so, what we have here now is a situation to where there’ll be a lower cost. And, you know, these pump inspections went up 2 years ago from $7 per pump to $9 per pump and then this year, it’s $18 per pump.”
“Well, I appreciate that. And I, ya know, I tend to agree with you on… on some parts. I guess, the thing, I think, that is incumbent on us is to make sure that we have a separation there, to make sure that we have accountability and the Department of Agriculture is the one that is going to do these certifications. I think, ya know, it shows the… the analysis I have compares the national average to be 6.6 percent of… of commitment of irregularities within that on a national survey and 3.6 for Illinois. So, I think… I think we should be proud of the job that the Department of Agriculture is doing. And if there’s a way to work within the parameters of the current program and relieve some of these costs, I’d be happy to work with ya on that. But, ya know, I…”
“As… as this thing moves through Senate, I… I’ll be glad to work with ya and… and see if we can’t get the Department of Ag to… to sign on to this.”
“Okay. Well, I appreciate… Unfortunately, I’ll probably have to oppose it at this time because of that. But I… but I appreciate your efforts and appreciate your willingness to work with the department.”
“Thank you.” 09400037.doc 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Representative Brauer to close.”
“This Weights and Measure Fund is listed by the Governor as an account that may have excess funds in it and would be open to be swept. So, I would appreciate an ‘aye’ vote. Thank you.”
“The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Biggins, do you wish to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 108 voting 'yes', 3 voting 'no' and 0 voting ‘present’. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Boland, you have House Bill 2460. It’s on page 26 of the Calendar. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.”
“House Bill 2460, a Bill for an Act concerning child labor. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“Representative Boland.”
“Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. This is a Bill exactly like we passed last term overwhelmingly in the House and unfortunately didn’t move in the Senate. But what it does is creates the state prohibition of goods from Child Labor Act. Its… follows a law that we passed 3 years ago that prohibited the State Government from spending tax money on goods made by political and religious prisoners. This one now would do the same thing with child labor. And it… it says that any… any contractor who knowingly and, 09400037.doc 17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 that’s a keyword, knowingly violates this would have some penalties.”
“This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Granberg, do you wish to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'yes' and 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Boland, on Second Reading, Repre… we have House Bill 3472. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
“House Bill 3472 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. No Floor Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Third Reading. On page 4 of the Calendar is House Bill 480. Representative Bradley, J., do you wish us to read this Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
“House Bill 480 has been read a second time, previously. Amendments #1 and 2 were approved in committee. Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Bradley, has been approved for consideration.”
“The Gentleman from Williamson, Representative Bradley.” Bradley, J.: “Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill is actually is a work between myself and Representative Osterman. And we both had constituents that came to us with concerns about 09400037.doc 18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 the screening processes for newborns with regards to eye cancers and tumors of the eye. And we’ve had some issues that we’ve worked out and as far as I know, there’s no opposition to this Bill. We’d ask for a favorable recommend… or favorable approval of the Amendment and… and passage on Third.”
“The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #4. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Parke.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I may not have heard. But has the medical society removed their opposition to your legislation?” Bradley, J.: “That is correct.”
“They have?” Bradley, J.: “Yes.”
“Okay. Then all in favor of the Amendment say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
“No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Committee Reports.”
Clerk Mahoney: “Committee Report. Representative Colvin, Chairperson from the Committee on Consumer Protection, to which the following measure/s was/were referred, action taken on April 11, 2005, reported the same back with the following recommendation/s: 'recommends be adopted' Floor Amendment #3 to House Bill 265 and Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 2047.” 09400037.doc 19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“On page 25 of the Calendar, Representative Bradley, Rich Bradley, has House Bill 805. Okay, that’s out of the record at the request of the Sponsor. Representative Brosnahan, you have on page 25 of the Calendar House Bill 1039. Mr. Clerk, would you read Bill.”
“House Bill 1039, a Bill for an Act concerning criminal law. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“Representative Brosnahan.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 1039 creates a new criminal offense of armed habitual criminal. Person commits this offense if he or she receives, sells, possesses or transfers any firearms after having been convicted of a total of two or more of certain felony offenses. Those felony offenses are any forcible felony as defined in the criminal statute, any felony involving a weapon, as well as, aggravated battery of a child, gun running, home invasion. It also includes any felonies that are a violation of the Illinois Controlled Substance Act or the Cannabis Control Act that are punishable as a Class III felony. This new offense becomes a Class X felony which is punishable from 6 to 30 years in the Illinois Department of Corrections. I know of no opposition to this legislation. I’d be happy to answer any questions.”
“This is on the Order of Short Debate. And standing in response is Representative Lindner.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?”
“He indicates he’ll yield.” 09400037.doc 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Could you tell us the genesis of this Bill, please?”
“Sure, Representative. This Bill is an initiative of the City of Chicago. I introdu… introduced this Bill last year, as well. However, it didn’t get out of the House. We introduce this Bill just because we’re trying to make the state penalties for illegal possession of a firearm commensurate with the federal penalties which are usually a lot more severe.”
“All right. So, basically this is cleanup language, clean language as to what should’ve been in the Bill last year?”
“Last year… the legislation last year moved out of committee but it didn’t move out of the House. So, but I introduced it last year and I… and I brought it again… I brought back again this year.”
“All right. Thank you very much.”
Speaker Hannig: “Is there any further discussion? Representative Parke.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?”
“He indicates he’ll yield.”
“Representative, this says that this fiscal impact is gonna be $360 million over 10 years. That’s approximately 36 million each year. Do you have funding source for this revenue?”
“I do not.”
“So, this again is subject to appropriation. Ladies and Gentlemen, again, a worthwhile idea. But I remind you that if we’re gonna pay for Medicaid and we’re gonna pay for 09400037.doc 21 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 educational funding and keep the levels at the same level they are now, we cannot continue to pass legislation, as well intended and as useful as this Bill is, without figurin’ out where the money’s gonna come from. So, again, we need to be aware that we are passing hundreds of millions of dollars of spending, all worthwhile and we have no money to pay for it.”
“Okay. Representative Molaro.”
“Thank you. To the previous speaker. And I figured now would be a good time to bring it up, Representative. You know, I’ve sat here, where both sides of the aisle, a Bill is presented that costs some money. Sometimes it’s you, Representative, sometimes it’s one of your colleagues. I’ve had two or three on my side jump up and say, say it’s gonna cost us money. I don’t get it. In other words, we passed about six or eight or ten or fifteen crime Bills that have enhanced penalties and they cost money. I’d rather we get to the point where we talk about the Bill and say we don’t like the Bill or we like the Bill when we jump up and say, on both sides of the aisle, that it costs money. I think that’s disingenuous, because then we should jump up on every Bill that costs money and we should make an agreement between all 118 Members that we’re not gonna pass a Bill that costs money. Either a Bill is a good idea or it isn’t a good idea. We can’t jump up and say it’s gonna cost money, it’s a great idea but let’s not… let’s not do it because it costs money. Because every single crime Bill that we pass costs money. So, either this Bill 09400037.doc 22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 is a good idea or it isn’t. Or every time we have a Bill that costs money we should jump up and say, ‘We in the State of Illinois are in a budget crunch, and every single Bill that costs one penny should be defeated.’ Now, I don’t know whether this… this Bill is a good idea to every body. I happen to think it’s a great idea. But if you think it’s not a good Bill, then vote ‘no’. But I don’t think we should jump up and say to our colleagues, ‘It’s a good Bill but it costs money, so we should vote ‘no’.’ Otherwise, every Bill that costs money from now on in, you’re gonna hear my voice ‘cause I’m gonna jump up, every single crime Bill, every single Bill that costs one penny, we should be against. I just thought I’d throw that out there for whoever is listening. Thank you.”
“So, now we’ve had under the rules of Standard Debate, three who’ve spoken in response, Representative Lindner, Parke and Molaro. Does anyone rise in support? Representative Sacia, would you like to speak in support? Then you have 5 minutes.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I certainly don’t need the 5 minutes. It’s just very imperative and I applaud what the previous speaker said, because his comments are right on target. This kind of a Bill, the higher good should be what is our greatest concern not the cost. This is a good Bill. It’s a positive Bill. It’s for the benefit of law enforcement. It’s for the benefit for all of our citizens. I strongly encourage an ‘aye’ vote.” 09400037.doc 23 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Okay. So, now under the rules of Standard Debate, there’s room for one more to speak in favor. Representative Delgado.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I, too, rise in support of my colleague. And I, too, won’t need the 5 minutes because this legislation is very important. Although, the conversation that the last… my colleague on my side of the aisle pointed out is extremely true. We cannot continue to get up and talk about how much a Bill’s gonna cost, as you’re gonna see many of ‘em come up real soon on the other side of the aisle, and the same question’s gonna be asked, along the same lines of a crime Bill and we wanna be fair to each and one another. So, with that, I like this bipartisan support and let’s go ahead and vote ‘yes’ on this important piece of legislation.”
“Representative Brosnahan to close.”
“Thank you again, Mr. Speaker. As I stated earlier in my initial comments, there is no opposition to this Bill. I… I think it’s a very important piece of legislation. It’s gonna go a long way to bring the state penalties to the same level as the… the federal penalties that are enforced right now. And I would appreciate an ‘aye’ vote. Thank you.”
“The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 09400037.doc 24 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 and 1 voting ‘present’. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, would you read House Bill 4030.”
“House Bill 4030, a Bill for an Act concerning sex offenders. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“Representative Brosnahan. Okay. Out of the record at the request of the Sponsor. Representative Burke, you have on Second Reading House Bill 1285. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
“House Bill 1285 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. No Floor Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Representative Burke. Okay. Third Reading. Is that correct? All right. Do you want us to call the Bill now, Representative Burke? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
“House Bill 1285, a Bill for an Act concerning liquor. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 1285 would modify the Liquor Control Act and allow certain public officials to have a direct interest in the manufacture, sale, and distribution of alcohol. I’d be happy to answer any questions.”
“The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 1285. Is there any discussion? The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Meyer.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could… would the Sponsor yield, please?”
“He indicates he’ll yield.” 09400037.doc 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Representative, it’s very noisy in here. Could you go through what your Bill does, again?”
“In essence, it would permit those elected to public office to have interest in activities surrounding the sale of alcohol.”
“Is there opposition to this?”
“The Illinois Liquor Control Commission and the City of Chicago.”
“Are there any of the social groups that are opposed to it?”
“The regular suspects, the Illinois Council on Church and Alcohol and Gambling (sic-Illinois Church Action on Alcohol and Addiction Problems), whatever that outfit is. Anita Bedell, her… her group, of course, she’s opposed to everything, so…”
“Well, what’s the… what’s the genesis of this Bill?”
“From what I understand, the Illinois Licensed Beverage Association and the Ill… Associated Beer Distributors have had this matter ongoing for sometime. And basically, I think it’s just an opportunity for individuals who happened to be elected to public office to engage in a legal and licensed activity. Why… why should we be precluded from engaging in a legal activity?”
“Well… well, what about conflicts of interests with… with their establishments and licenses?”
“Well, I would suggest that those individuals who would be in that particular situation should handle themselves as we do here and state their conflict and vote their 09400037.doc 26 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 conscience or avoid the opportunity for a decision to be made based on their involvement. We do it everyday here, Representative.”
“Is there any group of people other than the distributors that are asking for this change?”
“No, none that I’m aware of.”
“Well, what… what is the real genesis of it?”
“Could I…”
“That’s what we…”
“Well, I would just like to ask, ya know, what is it that this prohibition of one who is elected to public office, what… who are we protecting by denying those individuals the opportunity to engage in a legal activity? I just can’t understand why there is the prohibition for these people who are elected to public office. Years ago, it used to be, I don’t know what your experience has been, but in the City of Chicago it was rare that one could get elected if he didn’t have a liquor establishment.”
“That’s interesting. Well, I… I go back to my first local government position I held starting back in 1983. And at that time, being a village board member I was prohibited from participating in ownership of a liquor establishment or restaurant that served liquor and that… that type of thing. I… I guess I’ve been down here since 1993, this has not been something that has been on the forefront of our discussion and debate every year. And just trying to find… figure out why we would… needed to 09400037.doc 27 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 change the law so much this year, that now it’s being brought before us.”
“Well, as I said, Representative, this matter has been knocking around for a few years, at least and it’s probably the first time it’s gotten to this particular point in the legislative discussion process.”
“Well, I… I thank you for your answers. I… I think you probably made a good point. And be happy to support your Bill.”
“I appreciate that.”
Speaker Hannig: “Is there any further discussion? Then Representative Burke is recognized to close.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Just very basically, my question is to you, why should any individual, whether they be elected to public office or not, be denied the opportunity to engage in an activity that is perfectly legal, licensed and very well engaged in in our society. So, I would simply ask for your favorable consideration of House Bill 1285. Thank you.”
“The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Currie and Hassert, would you like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are… Mr… Representative Burke, would you like to put this on postponed?” Burke: “Yes, Sir. I would.” 09400037.doc 28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
Speaker Hannig: “Okay. We’ll put this on the Order of Postponed Consideration. Representative Jerry Mitchell, for what reason do you rise?” Mitchell, J.: “A point of personal privilege, Mr. Speaker.”
“Yes, state your point.” Mitchell, J.: “Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I don’t normally introduce every single page that we have on the floor that comes from my district, but in… this interest, I would like to introduce you to… to Mr. Tom Bales that goes to school at our Catholic junior high school. His mother, Lisa Bales is in the gallery. The reason why is this is Tom’s 15th birthday and he’s chosen to spend his birthday with us here. So, let’s give him a warm welcome. Thank you.”
“And Representative Mitchell, could return to House Bill 3624 and would you handle the Amendment for Representative Black? Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill, please.”
“House Bill 3624 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Mitchell, has been approved for consideration.”
“Representative Mitchell.” Mitchell, J.: “Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Amendment simply puts back the 5-year work requirement to the alternative teacher’s certification program. Some of the education groups had a… had a concern with eliminating that. This allows the Bill to increase 09400037.doc 29 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 the number that can be within the education circle but they’ll still have to have the 5-year work requirement. Be happy to answer any questions, if needed.”
“Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
“No further Amendments. All Motions have been filed.”
“Third Reading. And on Supplemental Calendar 1 is House Bill 2241. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill. House Bill 2241 on the Supplemental Calendar #1.”
“House Bill 2241, a Bill for an Act concerning State Government. This Bill has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. No Floor Amendments have been approved for consideration. No Motions filed.”
“Okay, Mr. Clerk, let’s hold that on Second Reading pending a… an Amendment. On page 6 of the Calendar, Representative Churchill has House Bill 911. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill. 911.”
“House Bill 911, a Bill for an Act concerning government. Second Reading of this House Bill. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Churchill, has been approved for consideration.”
Speaker Hannig: “The Gentleman from Lake, Representative Churchill.” 09400037.doc 30 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The Amendment, basically, becomes the Bill. It incorporates the original underlying language which says that no joint insurance pool or intergovernmental cooperative may interfere with the collective bargaining process. And it also adds language that brought the parties to an agreement that says that the gov… intergovernmental cooperatives and insurance pools have the right to reprise their insurance if part of the group is removed.”
“The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1. All in favor say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
“No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
Speaker Hannig: “Third Reading. And on page 26 of the Calendar, Representative Churchill has House Bill 1451. Mr. Clerk, would you read House Bill 1451, please.”
“House Bill 1451, a Bill for an Act concerning State Government. Second Reading of this House Bill. No Committee Amendments. No Floor Amendments. All Motions have been filed.”
“Mr. Clerk, I think this is on Third Reading. Is that not correct?”
“House Bill 1451, a Bill for an Act concerning State Government. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
Speaker Hannig: “The Gentleman from Lake, Representative Churchill.” 09400037.doc 31 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is another one of the Bills that comes out of the meetings that derived from the Fee-For-Service Committees of last year. When the stakeholders got together in their work group, they came up with several suggestions. This, basically, puts into law one of the suggestions. And it says that we should add to the community mental health services and programs the following: peer support, residential support services, assertive community treatment, skilled development, vocational training, residential supports for children and adults, and transportation.”
“This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'yes' and 1 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Chapa LaVia, you have on page 11 of the Calendar House Bill 1404. Mr. Clerk, would you read that Bill.”
“House Bill 1404 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Chapa LaVia has been approved for consideration.”
“Representative Chapa LaVia.” 09400037.doc 32 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“House Amendment #1, all it does is technical change. It takes ‘teen dating and’ and removes it to ‘teen dating’. And that’s… that’s the Amendment.”
“Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
“No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
Speaker Hannig: “Third Reading. And Representative Chapa LaVia, you also have on page 11 House Bill 1525. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.”
“House Bill 1525 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. No Floor Amendments. No Motions filed.”
Speaker Hannig: “Third Reading. Is that correct, Representative? Do you wish to move that to Third? And would you like to call that Bill now?”
“Please, go ahead, do so.”
“Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
“House Bill 1525, a Bill for an Act concerning health. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“Representative Chapa LaVia.”
“Amendment 1, which was discussed in committee slightly, is a Bill that Representative Chapin Rose had and rolled into mine. Putting into a little teeth into… if… if a parental… maternal parent does not notify the other parent, in this Bill, it has to do with sexual offenders. And we put some teeth into it, so if you didn’t notify that 09400037.doc 33 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 other person, there’d be some penalties that went into that.”
“Representative… The Lady has moved for the adoption or for the passage of House Bill 1525. And on that question, Representative Parke is recognized.”
“Yes, thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?”
“She indicates she’ll yield.”
“Is the Illinois Life Insurance Council still in opposition to this?”
“I… I… if… if they are, I’m unaware of it. They have not notified me.”
“If they are, you’re unaware of it? Is that what you said?”
“Correct. That’s correct, Representative Parke.”
“Well, it says here that you’re supposed to be holding this Bill until the concerns of the Life Insurance Council and CIGNA have been resolved. Have you resolved those problems?”
“Nnn…”
“According to our analysis says you agreed to hold this Bill.”
“Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, let me look at this. Oh yeah, this is correct, this is correct. Representative Parke is correct. Could we pull this off record, please?”
“Oh.”
“And put it back onto Second?”
“Okay. We’ll… we’ll leave it on the Order of Third Reading. And… Did you want to move it back to 09400037.doc 34 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 Second or you wanna leave it on Third? Okay. Mr. Clerk, let’s move this back to the Order of Second Reading at the request of the Sponsor. On page 12 of the Calendar… Excuse me, Mr. Clerk, do you have any Committee Reports?”
Clerk Mahoney: “Committee Report. Representative Molaro, Chairperson from the Committee on Judiciary II-Criminal Law, to which the following measure/s was/were referred, action taken on April 11, 2005, reported the same back with the following recommendation/s: 'recommends be adopted' Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 1592, Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 2240, Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 2241, and Floor Amendments 1, 2, 3 to House Bill 2941.”
“And now, Mr. Clerk, let’s return to the Order of Supplemental Calendar #1, House Bill 2241. Then could you read the… read the Bill, please.”
“House Bill 2241 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Madigan, has been approved for consideration.”
Speaker Hannig: “Representative Beiser will handle the Amendment. Representative Beiser.”
“Yes, this is a… Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a… a Amendment that is offered by our State Police. It’s an Amber Alert for senior citizens. It basically will codify the differences between the senior citizen Amber Alert and the Amber Alert that we all know of for the younger people.” 09400037.doc 35 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
“No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
Speaker Hannig: “Third Reading. Excuse me, Representative Parke, for what reason do you rise?”
“Thank you. I’ve been informed that there’s an agreement on 2241 and if the Amendment went on, for the time being, it would be held in… on Second Reading. Could you check in with the Sponsor to make sure that that’s…”
“Okay. Representative Beiser, did… did you hear Representative Parke? Mr. Parke, could you…”
“I’m sorry…”
“Could you repeat your statement?”
“My under… my understanding that Bill is suppose to remain on Second when you put your Amendment on?”
“Yes.”
“They moved it to Third. Would you like it to be brought back to Second Reading?”
“Okay. Representative Beiser requests that we return House Bill 2241 to the Order of Second Reading, Mr. Clerk. Representative Colvin, on page 15 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2517. Okay. Out of the record at the request of the Sponsor. On page 12 of the Calendar, Representative Cross has House Bill 1540. Do you wish us to read that? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.” 09400037.doc 36 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“House Bill 1540 has been read a second time, previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in committee. No Floor Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Third Reading. On page 15 of the Calendar, Representative Cultra has House Bill 2521. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.”
“House Bill 2521, a Bill… has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Cultra, has been approved for consideration.”
“Representative Cultra.”
“I would move ‘do adopt’ for Amendment #2 which becomes the Bill. It sets up a 1-year pilot program for the 2006 deer hunting season, allowing lineal descendents to purchase four additional hunting permits at whatever the cost is. And I would be willing to take any discussion on this.”
“Is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Parke.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?”
“He indicates he’ll yield.”
“Can somebody… can the Sponsor tell me what a lineal…”
“Lineal descendant.”
“…descendant. Yeah.”
“Is a direct like your son, grandson, great-grandson.”
“So, if you adopted somebody, that wouldn’t work?”
“Yes. What this is… right now in the State of Illinois, if you live on the land, you can get a free 09400037.doc 37 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 permit. But if you don’t live on the land, this would allow you to purchase a permit and still be able to hunt.”
“Okay. Sounds good. Is it gonna help us cut down on the overpopulation of deer that we have in this state?”
“Should help.”
“If they’re good shoot… shots? If they’re good shots, they’ll help cut down?”
“We’ll wait and see about that.”
“Thank you.”
“Any further discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
“No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Third Reading. On page 23 of the Calendar, Representative Barbara Currie has House Bill 4051. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
“House Bill 4051 has been read a second time, previously. Amendment #1 was approved in committee. Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Hamos, has been approved for consideration.”
“Representative Currie.”
“Thank you, Speaker. Amendment 2 corrects a drafting error. The drafting error amends that this Bill would have made substantive changes in the Human Rights Act, that was not our intent. I’d appreciate your support for this technical change.” 09400037.doc 38 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
Speaker Hannig: “The Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Parke.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?”
“She indicates she’ll yield.”
“Does Amendment #2 then remove the objection of the Illinois Chamber to your Bill?”
“Representative, I don’t know. All I’m telling you is that there was technical drafting error and this Amendment fixes it.”
“So, this is a tech…”
“That had to do with punitive damages, that was not our intent.”
“So, are you saying, you’re…”
“I’m sure they’d be in favor of this Amendment.”
“So, that does not… it’s technical in nature, does not affect the underlying legislation other than…”
“No, right.”
“…correcting something.”
“Right.”
“Thank you very much.”
“Any further discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
“No further Amendments. No Motions filed.” 09400037.doc 39 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Third Reading. On page 26 of the Calendar, Representative Daniels has House Bill 1447. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.”
“House Bill 1447, a Bill for an Act concerning State Government. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“Representative Daniels.”
“Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Bill 1447 would enable the Department of Human Services to bring its rate setting process in line with the fee-for- service provisions that we are… they have set forth in the conversion process. This came out of the series of hearings in Fee-For-Service. And I ask for your favorable support.”
“This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr… Representative Kelly, would you like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'yes' and 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 16 of the Calendar, Representative Delgado, you have House Bill 2594. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
“House Bill 2594 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, 09400037.doc 40 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 offered by Representative Delgado, has been approved for consideration.”
Speaker Hannig: “The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Delgado.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House… House Amendment #1 to House Bill 2594 was brought to the floor for approval. It’s in technic… technical nature and that would be allowing for the contractor, also to be able to have the same right as the… the person accepting the contract as to the consumer. So, this puts it more on a playing field. And that’s what Amendment #1 does, is removes a couple of words, it adds a couple of the other technical terms to this Amendment. I would ask for your ‘aye’ vote.”
“The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1. Is there any discussion? Then all in favor say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
“No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Third Reading. Representative Eddy, on page 19 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3415. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.”
“House Bill 3415 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Eddy, has been approved for consideration.”
“Representative Eddy.” 09400037.doc 41 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Mr. Speaker, point of inquiry. I believe Amendment #2 becomes the Bill and includes additional language, but also includes 1.”
Speaker Hannig: “Okay. So, why don’t you… why don’t you withdraw Amendment #1.”
“Okay.”
“So, Mr. Clerk, Amendment #1 is withdrawn. Is there any further Amendments?”
“Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Eddy, has been approved for consideration.”
“Representative Eddy.”
“Than… Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #2 becomes the Bill and basically, it adds… or changes the Bill to allow for probate judges to consider the best possible guardian for a child or disabled adult, even if the best candidate has had a past felony conviction. It sets up a three-part test to be used by the court when evaluating the perspective guardian. The first part of the test is the nature of the offense. The second, the date of the offense. And three, evidence of the proposed guardian’s rehabilitation. The Bill, also specifically prohibits appointing any person convicted of a felony involving the harm or threat of harm against a child, including a sexual offense felony. It also makes the change to… the effective date to be immediate on becoming law.”
“Is there any discussion on the Gentleman’s Amendment? Then all in favor say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. 09400037.doc 42 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
“No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Third Reading. Representative Eddy, you also have on page 24 of the Calendar, House Bill 473. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
“House Bill 473, a Bill for an Act concerning procurement. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“Representative Eddy.”
“Thank you, again, Mr. Speaker. This Bill is the final of four Bills introduced to encourage the use of ethanol in this state. And it requires state vehicles purchased after July 1 of ’05 to be capable of burning a majority blend ethanol or biodiesel fuel. And I’d be happy to try and answer any questions.”
“This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Poe, would you like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'yes' and 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 7 of the Calendar, Representative Flider has House Bill 1038. Mr… Okay. Out of the record at the request of the Sponsor. On page 26 of the Calendar, Representative Flider has House Bill 1571. Okay. That’s also gonna be 09400037.doc 43 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 out of the record at the request of the Sponsor. On page 27 of the Calendar, Representative Feigenholtz has House Bill 3628. Out of the record? Okay, out of the record at the request of the Sponsor. Representative Giles, on page 3 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 230. Would you like us to read that? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
“House Bill 230 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. No Floor Amendments. All notes have been filed.”
“Third Reading. And Representative Giles, you also have on Third Reading… Oh, I’m sorry, on page 3 of the Calendar, House Bill 231, 231. Read that Bill, as well. It’s on the Order of Second Reading. You want it out of the record? Okay. Out of the record at the request of the Sponsor. On page 12 of the Calendar, Representative Gordon, you have House Bill 1658. Representative Gordon, 1658? Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.”
“House Bill 1658 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. No Floor Amendments have been approved for consideration. No Motions filed.”
“Representative Gordon, you want that to move to Third? No. Okay, the Lady wishes to hold that on Second Reading. Representative Graham, you have on the Supplemental Calendar, House Bill 2240. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.”
“House Bill 2240 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment#1, 09400037.doc 44 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 offered by Representative Graham, has been approved for consideration.”
“The Lady from Cook, Representative Graham.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 2240 requires a criminal background check for emergency shelter workers. And I’ll take any questions at this time.”
“Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
“No further Amendments. However, a fiscal note has been requested and not yet received.”
“Representative Graham, did you hear that, that the Clerk said there’s a request for a fiscal note? So, your Bill will remain on Second Reading pending the note. You, also have, Representative Graham, House… on page 10 of the regular Calendar, House Bill 1351. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
“House Bill 1351 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1 was adopted to the Bill. Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Graham, has been approved for consideration.”
“The Lady from Cook, Representative Graham.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 1351, there’s a slight change to the Amendment. We change… we initial agreed on a 5-hour limit 09400037.doc 45 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 to test a hit-and-run… a driver in a hit-and–run situation. The time has been expanded to 12 hours.”
Speaker Hannig: “The Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2. Is there any discussion? Then all in favor say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
“No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Third Reading. On page 18 of the Calendar, Representative Hassert has House Bill 3183. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.”
“House Bill 3183 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Hassert, has been approved for consideration.”
Speaker Hannig: “The Gentleman from Will, Representative Hassert.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #1 becomes the Bill, amends the County Codes require that AM broadcasting towers be regulated in the same manner as SOP(standard operating procedure) towers currently are.”
“The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1. All in favor say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
“No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Third Reading. Representative Hoffman, on page 13 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2217. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill. Out of the record at the 09400037.doc 46 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 request of the Sponsor. Representative Holbrook, on page 24 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 438. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
“House Bill 438, a Bill for an Act in relation to disabled persons. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“The Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative Holbrook.”
“Thank you, Speaker. House Bill 438 as amended allows the Department of Human Services the latitude to change assessment limits through administrative rules, so they can provide for increase in assets. Right now, the current amount is $10 thousand. Last year, we raised the assessment in the community care program to 12,500 due to demand of folks in the field. This… I know of no opposition of the Bill. And there is no cost associated to this unless the department, itself, exercises it. With that, I’d be glad to take any questions and as for an ‘aye’ vote.”
“This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Hassert, would you like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'yes' and 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Supplemental Calendar, 09400037.doc 47 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 Representative Hoffman has House Bill 1411. You want us to read the Bill, 1411? Why don’t we read the Bill, Mr. Clerk, then we’ll hold the Bill.”
“House Bill 1411 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. No Floor Amendments approved for consideration. No Motions filed.”
“Okay. So, we’ll hold that on the Order of Second Reading ‘til we get the Amendment to catch up. On page 4 of the Calendar, Representative Joyce, you have House Bill 483. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
“House Bill 483 has been read a second time, previously. Amendment #1 was approved in committee. Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Joyce, has been approved for consideration.”
Speaker Hannig: “The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Joyce.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentle… Gentlemen of the House. Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 483 simply clarifies the information that would be re… redacted from any sort of FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) requests to protect from identity theft issues.”
“The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2. Is there any discussion? The Lady from Cook, Representative Mulligan, on the Amendment.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?”
“He indicates he’ll yield.” 09400037.doc 48 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Representative, what if the settlement is sealed by agreement? Would it still be able to be obtained through Freedom of Information Act?”
“The set… the settlement is sealed by who?”
“Are you talking court settlements or what settlements are you discussing? In many instances, if you make a settlement with a lawyer…”
“These are settle…”
“…part of the settles…”
“These are settlements between municipalities and individuals.”
“All right. So, a settlement agreement that is not a lawsuit settlement.”
“It is not… is not all… it is not automatically always a court decided settlement.”
“All right. So…”
“It’s not… it’s not necessarily a court sealed document. And they already have in past cases, members of the media have been able to unseal those settled… sealed settlement court documents. So, this does not apply to that. These are settlements that are between municipalities and individuals that are… have not gone to a court system.”
“All right. So, there would be agreement up front that they would make a settlement and part of the agreement would be that it would not be divulged.”
“I can’t hear ya.”
“It’s not an agreement that as part of the agreement would be kept secret. Sometimes you make a settlement with 09400037.doc 49 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 the agreement, if we settle this, we don’t divulge the information in the settlement. It’s not that type of agreement, correct?”
“Well, any settlement that is not court sealed would be subject to this… to this Bill.”
“All right. Thank you.”
“Any further discussion on the Amendment? Then all in favor say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
“Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Joyce, has been approved for consideration.”
“Representative Joyce on Amendment #3.”
“Mr. Speak… Mr. Speaker. I… I think I wanted to table Amendment #2 and run Amen… Amendment #3.”
“Okay.”
“So, I apologize.”
“So, we just adopted Amendment #2. So, Mr. Clerk, let’s just return to that for a moment. And… and now, Representative Joyce moves to reconsider the vote by which Amendment #2 was adopted. All in favor say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Motion is adopted. And the vote to adopt is reconsidered. And now, on the Floor Amendment #2, Representative Joyce withdraws the Amendment. Any further Amendments.”
“Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Joyce, has been approved for consideration.”
“Floor Amendment number…” 09400037.doc 50 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Mr. Speaker, you’ve gone to 481, we were on 483 before.”
“Yes, Mr. Clerk, we’re on… on House Bill 483. Thank you, Representative.”
“So, I would move that Floor Amendment #3 be adopted, Mr. Speaker.”
“Okay. So now, the Gentleman moves that Floor Amendment 3 to House Bill 483 be adopted. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Parke.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?”
“He indicates he’ll yield.”
“Representative, we don’t understand it… why you need to do this. I mean, here we go is at a time when everybody is worried about identity theft. And now you’re requiring that if somebody wants some information, they have to give their Social Security number, they have to have a tax ID number…”
“No, that’s not true.”
“That’s what Amendment 3 says. Yeah. All that information can be requested by the person seeking the information as part of the settlement. And what it is, is that it’s very intrusive. Are you sure you wanna do this? I mean, I guess it’s okay, but what makes us think that the press is anymore honest or dishonest than any other group or people? You start giving Social Security numbers out to people and… and tax ID numbers when I’m sure the great 99 percent of reporters will… will use that in a prudent matter. But they throw it on their desk, it gets thrown 09400037.doc 51 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 out and here’s that information laying there. Are you really sure you wanna do this?”
“Mr… Representative, we actually went back to do Amendment #3 because we wanted to make sure that personal identify information did not include and that’s why if you look with the Amendment, it’s supposed to be consistent with the rest of the statute, to not include Social Security and that information with identity theft. That was the purpose of Amendment #3. So, if… and I’m gonna look at it right now, if… if that’s wrong then… We deleted lines 9 through 13 because we did not want to specify that information out of there because it would not have been consistent according to the attorneys with the rest of the statute.”
“All right. Let’s… let’s just… let’s look at the Bill. It says, if you look at your first page of 483, line 24C, ‘public records means all records, reports, forms’ and it goes all the way down to on page 3, line 18, and ‘settlement agreements entered into by or on behalf of the public body’. We believe that means that they can if requested will have to give that kind of information. Now, maybe… maybe we can pull this out of the record and get our staffs together to make sure it’s in the form that you want it to be. But according to our staff, from what we read, it, in fact, will require that information and we just… And I… it sounds like you don’t want them to have that. And therefore, I think we might be in agreement, if we can just get clarification.” 09400037.doc 52 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“That’s fine. You know what, Mr. Speaker, I will pull this out of the record so our staffs can get together on the…”
“Thank you very much.”
“Okay. This is out of the record now at the request of the Sponsor. Representative Joyce, you also have on page 13 of the Calendar, House Bill 2047. Out of the record. Okay. Out of the record at the request of the Sponsor. Representative Kelly, you have on page 26 of the Calendar, House Bill 2417. That’s out. How about on page 22 of the Calendar, Representative Kelly, you have House Bill 3801. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
“House Bill 3801 has been read a second time, previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in committee. Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Kelly has been approved for consideration.”
“The Lady from Cook, Representative Kelly.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 3801 creates a Medical School Applicant Criminal Black… Background Check Act and Amendment 2 limits the crimes that the criminal background check looks for by defining what a ‘sex offender’ is and what a ‘violent felony’ means for the Act.”
Speaker Hannig: “The Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2. Is there any discussion? Then all in favor say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
“No further Amendments. No Motions filed.” 09400037.doc 53 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Third Reading. And Representative Kelly, also on page 16 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2593. Okay, that’s out of the record at the resp… at the request of the Sponsor. Representative Kosel, on page 14 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2348. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.”
“House Bill 2348 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Kosel, has been approved for consideration.”
“Representative Kosel.”
“Thank you very much. We discussed this Amendment in committee today and it passed out of committee with no dissenting votes. And I would move for its adoption.”
Speaker Hannig: “The Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1. All in favor say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
“No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Third Reading. And on page 6 of the Calendar, Representative Kosel, you have House Bill 881. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
“House Bill 881 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Kosel, has been approved for consideration.”
“Representative Kosel.” 09400037.doc 54 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Thank you. I would move for the adoption of the House Amendment #1 to 881. This addressed the concerns that were in committee by the alliance and sets up a program for gifted and talented students in compliance with the requests that were made in committee.”
Speaker Hannig: “Is there any discussion on the Amendment? Then all in favor say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
“No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Third Reading. And Representative Kosel, on page 27 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3048. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
“House Bill 3048, a Bill for an Act concerning regulation. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“The Lady from Will, Representative Kosel.”
“Thank you very much. House Bill 3048 establishes license requirement for pumping, hauling, disposal of waste from toilet… from portable toilets and establishes cleaning standards. Currently, the… the language that is out there requires that anyone who services port-a-potties would have to have a contractor level license and pes… and past testing at that level. So, this would modify it and make a license much more specific to the job and establish cleanliness standards. I would move for its approval.”
“The Lady moves for the passage of House Bill 3048. This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, 'Shall this Bill 09400037.doc 55 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 73 voting 'yes' and 40 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 13 of the Calendar, Representative Lang has House Bill 2190. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.”
“House Bill 2190 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Lang, has been approved for consideration.”
“The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Lang.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is an initiative of Lieutenant Governor Pat Quinn. It deals with the issue of post-traumatic stress syndrome and adds that under the list of items that can be covered under mental health coverage. I would ask that you vote to adopt the Amendment.”
Speaker Hannig: “Is there any discussion on the Amendment? Then all in favor say, ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
“No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Third Reading. On page 26 of the Calendar is House Bill 1384. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.” 09400037.doc 56 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
"House Bill 1384, a Bill for an Act in relation to public employee benefits. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“Representative Rich Bradley’s going to handle the Bill, is that correct? The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Bradley.” Bradley, R.: “Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. 1384 amends the State Universities Article of the Illinois Pension Code. It directs the system to conduct a divided Medicare coverage referendum, open to university employees continuously employed by the same employer since March 31, 1986. It allows eligible university employees to irrevocably elect to participate in the federal Medicare program. This would have some costs to the employer, however, it would significant cost savings for the state’s payments for retiree health care.”
“This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Representative Mulligan is recognized in response.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
“He indicates he’ll yield.”
“Representative, what’s the genesis of this Bill.” Bradley, R.: “This is similar to what we did 2 years ago for teachers, again, allowing university employees to participate in federal Medicare.”
“My… my understanding is that the prescription drug plan, they’ve already been informed that they have to go along with Medicare, that we are not going to extend their 09400037.doc 57 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 prescrit… prescription drug program come the beginning of, I think, January. I had a senior fair where state employees had mentioned this to me, some of them are not for this. So, I’m interested in where this Bill came from and why you’re passing it.” Bradley, R.: “Well, again, it gives the employees an individual decision on whether to participate in Medicare. It’s their own decision.”
“Are we gonna pick up any of the cost?” Bradley, R.: “No, we’re not. We’d have some savings.”
“Well…” Bradley, R.: “The employer would pick up their cost and have the normal…”
“I don’t necessarily… who’s ask…” Bradley, R.: “…redu… deductions. “
“Who’s asking you or Representative McKeon to Sponsor this Bill.” Bradley, R.: “We worked with the I… Illinois Federation of Teachers on this.”
“I’m sorry, I did not understand you.” Bradley, R.: “The IFT.”
“I’ve… I’m concerned over what Public Aid is planning to do with all the prescription drug plans. And from talking to some retired employees, what they’re going to be forced to do with their prescription drug plans and the fact that there is no option for us to actually pick up the difference for some of these. So, I’m interested in why the IFT would want you to do this.” 09400037.doc 58 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 Bradley, R.: “Again, it’s similar legislation that teachers were allowed to have several years ago and we thought it’d be fair to allow university employees to have that same option.”
“I really have good co… I really have concerns over this. What committee did it come through, Pensions?” Bradley, R.: “Yes.”
“All right, so TRS wants this and we’re not going to assist them in any of the costs?” Bradley, R.: “Correct.”
“And this just covers Medicare health coverage? Does it cover prescription drugs and Medicare prescription drug plan, too?” Bradley, R.: “Not to my knowledge, no.”
“All right. I am not 100 percent comfortable with this, I have to take a look at it. Unfortunately, we’re being forced to make a vote on it right now. But there are a whole lot of things going on with Medicare, particularly in prescription drugs and what we’re gonna do because of the changes from DPA into another agency, that these things make me very uncomfortable.”
“Any further discussion? Then Representative Bradley to close.” Bradley, R.: “Appreciate your support.”
“The question is, ‘Shall this Bill pass?’ All in favor vote ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this 09400037.doc 59 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 question, there are 111 voting ‘yes’ and 0 voting ‘no’, 2 voting ‘present’. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 3 of the Calendar, Representative Millner, you have House Bill 265. 265. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
Clerk Mahoney: "House Bill 265 has been a second time, previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in committee. Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Millner, has been approved for consideration.”
“Representative Millner.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I ask that we move to adopt the Amendment #3, which becomes the Bill and amends the use of credit information and personal insurance. Provides permissive language for personal lines insurers to review and consider an exception to an insured’s risk score based upon extraordinary life events such as: a catastrophic illness; the death of a spouse, child, or parent; involuntary loss of employment; identity theft of an applicant or insured; or dissolution of a marriage of an applicant.”
“The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #3. Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
"No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Third Reading. Representative Bill Mitchell, on page 3 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 294. Okay. 09400037.doc 60 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 Out of the record at the request of the Sponsor. And Representative Jerry Mitchell has, on page 17 of the Calendar, House Bill 2946. Representative Mitchell in the chamber? Okay, let’s take that out of the record at the request of the Sponsor. Representative… on page 20 of the Calendar, Representative Moffitt, you have House Bill 3532. Okay, that’s out of the record. Representative Jerry Mitchell, I see you’re… you’ve returned to the chamber and I’ll… you have House Bill 2946. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.”
"House Bill 2946 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #2 was adopted by the House. Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Jerry Mitchell, has been approved for consideration.”
“Representative Mitchell.” Mitchell, J.: “Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment #3 is just a technical change in the language, doesn’t really change the Bill whatsoever. I’ll be happy to discuss it if anyone wants to.”
“Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
"No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
Speaker Hannig: “Third Reading. And on page 21 of the Calendar, Representative Bill Mitchell, we’re advised that 09400037.doc 61 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 you want us to read 3711. Mr. Clerk, would you read that Bill, please.”
"House Bill 3711 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. No Floor Amendments. No Motions filed.”
Speaker Hannig: “Third Reading. And on page 27 of the Calendar, Representative Molaro, you have House Bill 3740. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
"House Bill 3740, a Bill for an Act concerning public employee benefits. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
Speaker Hannig: “The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Molaro.”
“Thank you. We’re recalling this Bill… Representative Parke, I think, is reading the Bill now, as we speak. And basically what this is, this is with the Chicago Teachers Retirement System. I took this out of the record to find out where the Chicago Teachers Union and IFT are. And we found out that the IFT as well as the Chicago Teachers Union do not oppose the Bill. Also in my hand… I… I had said that it was part of a code and the correction of errors is in TRS, which is retired… Teachers Retirement System. It’s also part of the IMRF and it’s also in SURS, they can do the same thing that’s in this legislation. And this brings the CTRS into the same mode.”
Speaker Hannig: “Okay, this… the Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 3740. This is on the Order of 09400037.doc 62 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 Standard Debate. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Parke is recognized.”
“Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I concur with the evaluation of the Sponsor. They… our staff does say that they were slipped, but they have both talked to me and said that they are no long… well, are not in opposition to the Gentleman’s Bill. So, we will not have a problem now.”
Speaker Hannig: “Okay. So then Representative Molaro’s recognized to close.”
“Thank you. Since other funds have this, this brings parity to CTRS. Thank you.”
“The question is, ‘Shall this Bill pass?’ All in favor vote ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting ‘yes’ and 1 voting ‘no’. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 26 of the Calendar, Representative Molaro, you have House Bill 2379. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.”
"House Bill 2379, a Bill for an Act in relation to public employee benefits. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
Speaker Hannig: “The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Molaro.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This also passed out unanimously from the Pension Committee. There is no opposition, this is the Water Reclamation District. 09400037.doc 63 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 Basically, what it… what it does, the major part of it is, there’s a min… minimum member annuity. There was one member that did not quali… well, qualified for something, but one of their, I guess you would call ‘em… that you go to see to find out what your annuity is, mistakenly did something to him that shouldn’t have and he should’ve been part of this minimum annuities. And that’s takes care of that responsibility. And it also raises the floor of their annuity up for surviving widows who died about 20 years ago. The whole costs of this entire Bill is $22 thousand and they make up for it because now you have to have 5 years in the district before you get disability, and that saves the district about $300 thousand. So, it’s a cost plus to the Water Reclamation District. It was passed unanimously by their board, passed unanimously by the retirement board, and there was no opposition, and it passed unanimously in the Pension Committee, I’m told.”
“The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 2379. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Parke.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
“He indicates he’ll yield.”
“Representative, you just got through saying that this Bill was unanimous. Our staff analysis and our staffer reminds me that it passed on a partisan Roll Call, 3 to 2.”
“Yes, we…”
“So… so, am I…”
“That’s correct.” 09400037.doc 64 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“…mistaken?”
“No. Our unanal… our… our analysis doesn’t have it. I didn’t present the Bill and the person who presented the Bill just reminded me of that.”
“Okay.”
“Thank you.”
“You’re welcome. I’m glad that I was able to. In addition, there is a cost of $87 thousand and again, in a time when we don’t have enough money to pay every other bill, this is something that, at $87 thousand liability, that’s still money. And it’s something that we need to always pay attention to.”
“Well, Representative, I just have to point out, just so… Representative Parke.”
“So, this is… with… this is within the people who pay into that system…”
“Right.”
“…and is not General Revenue Fund.”
“Right.”
“But I’m just pointing out that people in Cook County, who we are, it is a…”
“Well…”
“…$87 thousand cost.”
“Well, that’s… that’s true, but I must point out two things. Thank you, first of all, for pointing out there is not state revenue, so it costs the state nothing. But more importantly that I have to point out, is that there is a section of the Bill that talks about these widows that when 09400037.doc 65 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 their spouses retired, ya know, 15, 20 years ago and they only get 50 percent of that, they’re getting 6 hundred a month, there was no Social Security. This raises them. And that’s the $87 thousand cost. However, I must point out that in Section 1 of this, which is Section 13, has to do with service credit. And what this does, is that you have to be 5 years in the district before you get a disability. And now the Pension Fund, if this passes, will save about $200 thousand. So when you pass this particular piece of legislation, House Bill 2379, it’s actually a net gain to the system. Doesn’t cost them 87 thousand, they actually get about $120 thousand. So there’s a plus to the system, not a net loss. You’re right, there is one section that costs 87 thousand, but it’s more than made up for the section that I just wrote up… or talked about.”
“Is there any further discussion? The Lady from Cook, Representative Monique Davis.” Davis, M.: “Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
“He indicates he’ll yield.” Davis, M.: “Representative Molaro, who would… there is a cost involved with this legislation.”
“Representative Molaro…”
“Could she…”
“Representative… Representative Davis has asked a question.”
“I… I’m sorry, I was…” Davis, M.: “No, my question is, what is the cost involved with this legislation?” 09400037.doc 66 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“If this passes, the district would receive about a hundred thousand dollars more, it would save a hundred thousand dollars. So, there’s a plus to this. As Representative Parke, and I’ll point this out again, there’s about six changes that it makes to the Water Reclamation District Pension Fund Code, okay. One of the changes is there’s… it changes the people who are re… they retired, they died, they retired maybe 20 years ago, they passed away, now their spouses get like 4 or 5 hundred. This raises that, their… their minimum. It… at cost about $87 thousand to do that. However, there’s also a section in this code that says you have to be a 5-year employee before you receive extra duty disability, and that’s saved the system about $200 thousand. So, all in all, if we pass this Bill there’s a net savings to the fund of about $120 thousand.” Davis, M.: “Thank you, Representative. I support your legislation.”
“Thank you.”
Speaker Hannig: “Is there any further discussion? Then Representative Molaro to close.”
“Thank you. As… as you well know, this is no cost whatsoever to the state, it’s not one of the state systems. The board’s in agreement, everybody’s in agreement with this. And there is no cost to the state and no cost to the district. As a matter of fact, it’s a plus for the district and it does help those widows that are receiving about 4 or 5 hundred a month and living on dog food or God 09400037.doc 67 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 knows what. And this is a great Bill. Again, a plus to the system, not a cost. Thank you very much.”
“The question is, ‘Shall this Bill pass?’ All in favor vote ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Stephens, would you like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 94 voting ‘yes’ and 19 voting ‘no’. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 25 of the Calendar, Representative Osterman, you have House Bill 794. Okay. Out of the record at the request of the Sponsor. On page 27 of the Calendar, Representative Reis, you have House Bill 4052. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
"House Bill 4052, a Bill for an Act concerning criminal law. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
Speaker Hannig: “The Gentleman from Jasper, Representative Reis.”
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I present to you House Bill 4052, as amended. Amends the Criminal Code of 1961, creates the offense of heinous battery of an unborn child. Exempts from this offense any acts that cause bodily harm to an unborn child if those acts were committed during abortion. This is a piece of legislation that arru… came to us as a result of the heinous slaughtering of a mother and her unborn child 09400037.doc 68 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 was cut from her womb last year in Missouri. Be happy to answer any questions.”
“This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, ‘Shall this Bill pass?’ All in favor vote ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Winters. Okay. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting ‘yes’ and 0 voting ‘no’. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 25 of the Calendar, Representative Reitz, you have House Bill 829. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
"House Bill 829, a Bill for an Act concerning taxes. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“The Gentleman from Randolph, Representative Reitz.”
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 829 deals with interest payments and the cap on interest payments for… that the county collector has for property tax sales. They currently collect that up to a limit of $500 thousand and then that money goes into the General Revenue Fund. This will lower that threshold to $100 thousand in the case of counties under 250 thousand inhabitants. And I’d be happy to answer any questions.”
“The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 829. This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, 09400037.doc 69 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 ‘Shall this Bill pass?’ All in favor vote ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk… Representative Bost, do you wish to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting ‘yes’ and 0 voting ‘no’. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 26 of the Calendar, Representative Rita, you have House Bill 1310. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
"House Bill 1310, a Bill for an Act concerning local government. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Rita.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 1310 is an initiative of the Township Officials of Illinois. Under the current law, a township may vest control of the township graveyard and three trustees and they be paid… may be paid up to $5 hundred for their duties. There’s no… nothing in the law that states that the township board may take control back of the graveyards if they choose to do so, if they feel necessary that they could do these… the obligations under their current position as a township board member. And what House Bill 1310 would do, would make it able that the township board may take these duties over. Be happy to answer any questions.”
Speaker Hannig: “This is on the Order of Short Debate. Representative Parke stands in response.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?" 09400037.doc 70 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“He indicates he’ll yield.”
“Representative, is the reason that you’re carrying this Bill because of your previous experience working in cemeteries?”
“No.”
“You’re not an expert on cemeteries and…?”
“No, I’m not.”
“Oh. Okay. And is the Township Officials of Illinois in support of this legislation?”
“Yes, this is their initiative. It came from a few different townships that belong within that association that’d come across a problem.”
“Okay. Well, if I need any expertise on cemeteries, I know where to go. Thank you.”
“The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Will Davis.” Davis, W.: “Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Sponsor yield?"
“He indicates he’ll yield.” Davis, W.: “Actually, I’ve got a serious question for you. Relative to the maintenance of cemeteries, the trustees, when they take over the cemetery, are there any dollars that go to them subsequently, if the township has to take control back? Are they able to take control back of any resources, any dollars?”
“Could you restate that? I don’t quite understand what your…” Davis, W.: “The trustees who are appointed to take over a cemetery, are they now in charge of any resources?” 09400037.doc 71 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Well, the township already does… its… its for graveyards that the township oversees already. And what it do… what’s in the law is that they could appoint these trustees to oversee that. And what it’s saying is that if the township opts out of having these, they can take back control. So, it’s something under the jurisdiction of the township already. It’s not all cemeteries but cemeteries that fall within the… the township’s jurisdiction.” Davis, W.: “Okay. So… so, any… any… so these trustees have control over dollars, that’s kinda what I’m…”
“Yes.” Davis, W.: “And subsequently, if the township has to control back, then… or… or…”
“Well, you’re dealing with township dollars anyways.” Davis, W.: “Okay.”
“So, it’s… it’s all within the township anyway. It’s just… that or if they wanted to downsize and not pay this… the current salaries or they feel it’s necessary for them to… that they could perform these duties along with their other duties as township trustee.” Davis, W.: “Okay. Thank you very much.”
“Any further discussion? Then Representative Rita to close.”
“Just ask for a favorable vote.”
“The question is, ‘Shall this Bill pass?’ All in favor vote ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Jefferson, do you wish 09400037.doc 72 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting ‘yes’ and 0 voting ‘no’. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Rose, on page 3 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 360. Do you wish to have us read the Bill, Representative Rose? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
"House Bill 360 has been read a second time, previously. Amendments #1 and 2 were approved in committee. Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Rose, has been approved for consideration.”
“Representative Rose.”
“Thank you. Floor Amendment #4 is the culmination of many weeks of discussion in Judiciary I-Civil Committee. It addresses, I believe, Representative Hamos’ arguments, Representative Lang’s arguments, and the arguments of the entire committee. It, frankly, doesn’t change anything from the underlying Bill other than it would make confidential any counseling sessions between a child and anyone involved in the counseling session. It just simply re-adds the client confidentiality session of any counseling session. I ask for its favorable adoption.”
“The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #4. Is there any discussion? Then all in favor say ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
"No further Amendments. No Motions filed.” 09400037.doc 73 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Third Reading. Also, Representative Rose, you have on page 20 of the Calendar, House Bill 3526. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
"House Bill 3526 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Rose, has been approved for consideration.”
“Representative Rose.”
“Thank you. Floor Amendment #1 encourages the agriculture industry, rather than farmers, to utilize additives in their meth… in their anhydrous ammonia tanks to prevent the use of… or the use of anhydrous for methamphetamines. This would remove the opposition of the Illinois Fertilizer and Chemical Association and that’s the intent of the Amendment. I’d ask for its adoption.”
“The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1. Is there any discussion? Then all in favor say ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
"No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of House Bill 231?”
Clerk Mahoney: "House Bill 231 is on the Order of Second Reading.”
“Would you… would you read the Bill, please.”
"House Bill 231 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. No Floor Amendments. No Motions filed.” 09400037.doc 74 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Third Reading. And Mr. Clerk, what is the status of House Bill 230?”
"House Bill 230, a Bill for an Act concerning public employee benefits. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“Mr. Clerk, return that to the Order of Second Reading at the request of the Sponsor. On page 8 of the Calendar is House Bill 1063 for Representative Reis. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.”
"House Bill 1063 has been read a second time, previously. Committee Amendment #1 was adopted in committee. Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Reis, has been approved for consideration.”
“Representative Reis.”
"Mr. Speaker, a clarification, we are presenting House Amendment #3.”
“So do you wish to withdraw Amendment #2?”
"No, we… no, we just wanna… we wanna approve Amendment #3, 2 is not out of Rules.”
“Yes. So, just to correct the record, the board was in error. Mr. Clerk, why don’t you give us the status… why don’t you give us the status of any Amendments that were adopted or pending.”
Clerk Mahoney: "Floor Amendment #3 has been approved for consideration.”
“Why don’t you… why don’t you give us the status of 1, 2, and 3.” 09400037.doc 75 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
"Floor Amendment #2 has not… has been referred to the Rules Committee. Floor Amendment #3 has been approved for consideration.”
“Okay. So, you were correct, Representative Reis. And on Amendment #3…”
"Yes.”
“…you’re recognized.”
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I present to you Amendment #3 to House Bill 1063 that clarifies and… and… some things that came up in committee with regards to the three things that we were going to clarify with this Bill. The three things that we wanted to clarify… we just wanted to clean it up with some language. And that’s what House Amendment #3 does. I’ll be happy to answer any questions.”
“The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #3. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Lang, on the Amendment.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
“He indicates he’ll yield.”
“Thank you. Representative, there was a lot of talk in committee, as I’m sure they remember, relative to the intention of the proponents and yourself as to what you wanted to do with this piece of legislation. And when we were in committee, you made it very clear that your sole intent was to clear up the current state of the law. Is that still your intent?”
"Yes, Representative.” 09400037.doc 76 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Well, as I read your Amendment, I think that you really haven’t done that yet. Maybe you could talk through with me, if your Amendment is adopted and the Bill should pass on Third Reading in its current form, what the state of the law would be if this becomes the law.”
"Okay. Well, what we were trying to do is… is clarify what the author of the Bill had in… originally intended, that religious organizations were exempt from the Bill. And we also wanted to clarify with regards to unisex bathrooms. And I think that we… we’ve done that with these Amendments and we also… with the Amendment… the second part of our Amendment we clarify that if the Supreme Court case considering the Boy Scouts of America is ever overturned, that we could no longer refer to it. So, I think that we did the things that we said we were gonna do in committee with this Amendment.”
“Well, that’s not entirely the case, Representative. Because in committee, you stated simply that you wanted to clarify what the law was and should be, relative to the current religious exemptions that are in the statute. But it seems to me that this Bill goes beyond that. Doesn’t this Bill go beyond the current exemptions in the statute?”
"Well, we don’t think it does. It’s just… we… it’s all in where you draw the line in what is exempt and what isn’t exempt.”
“Well, now, Representative, if this Bill were to become law, the way it’s written with this Amendment, it would be acceptable for a church to refuse to hire a janitor or an 09400037.doc 77 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 accountant or someone else that doesn’t deal with the actual religious portion of the church simply because they were either gay or black or disabled or Jewish or any number of other issues, isn’t that correct?”
"No, this is just about sexual orientation, sexual preferences. It has nothing to do with race or anything like that. But yes, it would… it would include janitors and anybody else that works within that organization.”
“All right. So, let’s just take it down to the one issue. This di… Bill still relates to the issue of… of homosexuality. Is that correct, Sir?”
"This… this… my Bill mainly… it clarifies what the author of the Bill said… was already there, that religious organizations were exempt from that Bill that passed back in the 93rd General Assembly.”
“And so, under this Bill, you could… a church could refuse to hire someone who is gay to be a janitor or an accountant. Would that be correct?”
"Yes.”
“What is the public policy reason behind why we should pass such a Bill.”
"Well, ya know, regardless of what position, we’re coming down to where we’re gonna draw the line again. But janitors work for parochial schools, they have… they should convey the same faith and… faiths of tenets that the teachers would or the principal or anybody else. They represent that church and they should believe in what that church is teaching.” 09400037.doc 78 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Representative, on page 3 of the Bill, Subsection (a), it says, ‘employer does not include any religious organization, association, or society or any nonprofit institution or organization operi… operated, supervised, or controlled by or in conjunction with a religious organization, association, or society.’ This definition’s pretty broad. It means that anybody that does any work or service for a church could be discriminated against because they are gay, is that correct?”
"Yeah, but we also have some strong words in there. They have to be operated, supervised, or controlled by that… that… that organization.”
“Mi… Mr. Speaker, could I have an extra minute, please?”
Speaker Hannig: “Representative, your time has expired but Representative Turner has indicated that he would be willing to yield you his 5 minutes. So…”
“Thank you, Representative Turner. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And so, can you repeat your answer, Sir? I’m sorry, I missed it.”
"Well, there’s some strong language in there that they have to be controlled, supervised, or operated by that religious organization. That’s… that is very narrow. Like Catholic Charities and… and Lutheran… things like that. We’ve had people call in from synagogues that said they appreciate this language as well.”
“’Cause, Rep… but, Representative, the Bill also says ‘in conjunction with’ and so this could mean your accountant. It could mean the people who do the flood control at the 09400037.doc 79 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 church. It could mean your lawyer. It could mean anybody that has nothing whatsoever to do with the religious faith or the doctrine or the… the… the running of the church.”
"That is not the intent of the legislation because…”
“No, I understand…”
"…those people are not hired…”
“I understand that’s not the intent, and that’s where we started the debate in committee. You wanted to create a Bill that dealt with your intent. Your intent was to… to make this be relevant only to the people at the church who dealt with the religious faith of the church.”
"But the accountant and the… and the… and someone who comes in and does plumbing or draining, things like that, are not employed by the church. So that would not… would not affect them.”
“All right. Let me go on to another part of the Bill. You limited the section about bathrooms to the issue of gayness, but the rest of the Bill’s not limited to that. So, if I’m reading your Bill correctly, a church could discriminate, for whatever reason, against a woman, a Hispanic, a disabled person, a Jew… well, you’re knodding… you’re shaking your head but that’s not what the Bill says. Have you read your Bill, Sir?”
"Representative, this Bill is not about race or discrimination at all. This is only about…”
“Now, we recognize that you want to go back to your district and say that, but why don’t you just draft the Bill that you say to us you’re drafting? This is the 09400037.doc 80 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 problem I had with you in committee. So in committee, you said the Bill was about one thing and the Bill is about another thing. You said the Bill was about one thing and the Bill is far broader than that. So a Hispanic couldn’t be a janitor in one of your buildings. A Jew couldn’t be an accountant for one of your churches. A black person couldn’t sweep the floor at one of the churches if the church decided that under this Bill. Have you read your Bill, Sir?”
"Representative, this is not what this Bill is about. And I take offense, because my wife’s family’s from Mexico, they’re Latino. This is not anything to do with race, whatsoever. This is only about clarifying that you can have single-sex bathrooms in facilities.”
“Mr. Speaker, to the Amendment.”
“To the Amendment.”
“The Representative, in committee and again here today, has not read his Bill and does not understand his Bill. We understand that the Representative wants to go back to his district and tell them that he did all these wonderful things. And in committee, more than once, we indicated to this Sponsor that if he would create a Bill that did what he said he wanted it to do, we would support it. If it simply said that the people who run the church can be controlled with this discriminatory practice we would say, well, okay, it’s your church, run it anyway you want. But this Bill, Ladies and Gentlemen, if you simply read it, if you simply don’t fall for the red herrings, it… if you read 09400037.doc 81 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 the Bill, it says that if you’re Hispanic a church would be able to discriminate against you, if you’re disabled, if you’re gay, if you’re Jewish, if you’re tall, if you’re short, if you’re bald, if you’re black. If that’s what you want your Bill to do, Sir, say so. But I don’t think that’s what you want your Bill to do. I think you want your Bill to do what you said you wanted it to do, but that’s not what this Bill says. So, Ladies and Gentlemen, don’t fall for this. Don’t fall for this. Make this man take the Bill back and amend it to be what he said it would be. If you vote for this Bill, you are voting for blatant discrimination. Mr. Speaker, I would request a Roll Call vote on this Amendment.”
“And you’ll be granted a Roll Call vote. So, now, under the rules of Amendment debate, two have already spoken against the Amendment, Representative Turner and Representative Lang. And the rules provide for one to speak in favor, in addition to the Sponsor’s closing. So, do you have a choice, Representative Reis? Representative Stephens, would you like to speak in favor?”
“Well, I… I…”
“Representative Stephens.”
“I personally… I’d like to ask a few questions of the Sponsor.”
“The Gentleman will yield.”
“And secondly, in the… you’re gonna get back to us on the rules of the… the verified vote on the Amendment? Or what…” 09400037.doc 82 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“There’s been a request for a Roll Call vote.”
“A Roll Call vote, okay.”
“And so we’ll grant that to any Member who requests it.”
“All right. We want to verify the ‘no’ votes.”
“And you have a request for a verification. That will be recognized as well, Representative.”
“The… the Gentleman from Cook referred to the Bill and he said that it… that he’s… that he read the Bill and he says that it says in here that you can discriminate against blacks and Jews. Rep… I don’t know if it’s appropriate to ask the Gentleman a question, I guess it’s not appropriate. I don’t see that in here where it says it’s okay… as you read the Bill, that it’s okay to discriminate against blacks. I wonder if somebody in our staff maybe has got more information maybe the Gentleman from Cook has alluded to that I don’t see. Because I don’t see where it says in here that you can that discriminate against blacks or Jews or Christians. And then you have the audacity to say that he’s misrepresenting his Bill. Well, he’s not. You might not agree with his Bill, Representative, but I don’t believe that we should be involved in this Body of standing here, accusing someone of misrepresenting what is written in the Bill and then turn right around and state the opposite of the facts. You just can’t get away with that. It is wrong, Representative. You knew it was wrong when the words came out of your mouth. I think it’s… it’s far below your usual standard of 09400037.doc 83 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 debate and I’m disappointed. The Amendment, as I understand it, is in response to some clarification that was requested. And… to the… to the Sponsor. What is the genesis? Why did you come up with the Amendment?”
"Representative, as I said, this passed in the lating… the waning days of the 93rd General Assembly. It was passed very hastily. A lot of people voted on that Bill who are no longer in this General Assembly. And we just felt that… and even when asked on the Senate Floor, the author of the Bill said this does not include religious organizations. And then the clarification of that…”
“Excuse me, Representative, I’m just talking about the Amendment. What…”
"The Amendment came…”
“This Amendment…”
"The Amendment came as a result of our discussions in committee, some… some things that needed to be cleared up and changed. And I think that’s what this Amendment does.”
“So, the Amendment is based on questions and suggestions made by the committee Members themself, even some of the… the outspoken critics…”
"Several weeks ago.”
“…who are trying to clarify some of the problems that they had.”
"Several weeks ago.”
“That’s what this Amendment does, Ladies and Gentlemen. That’s the vote… this critical vote that’s before us today, is making the Bill more palatable to some 09400037.doc 84 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 of its opponents. So, I… I agree. Let’s have a Roll Call vote. Let’s have a Roll Call vote and then let’s have a copy of the… of the record of this debate for all of us to share.”
“Representative Reis is recognized to close on the Amendment.”
"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I think we’ve been very clear. We’ve worked with this for weeks and weeks and weeks on these amend… on the original Bill, on the Amendment. We’ve got a lot of cosponsors to this Bill, that simply approving this Amendment moves it on to Third Reading and I ask for your ‘aye’ vote.”
“Okay, the question is, ‘Shall the Amendment be adopted?’ All in favor vote ‘aye’; opposed vote ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Everyone where they wanna be? Okay, Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 68 voting ‘yes’ and 46 voting ‘no’. And the Amendment is adopted. Representative Stephens, for what reason do you rise?”
“I was just gonna remove my request for the verification of the ‘no’ votes.”
“Right. Okay. And Representative Bailey, for what reason do you rise? Okay. Mr. Clerk, are there any further Amendments?”
"No further Amendments. However, notes have been requested and not yet filed.” 09400037.doc 85 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Okay. So, we’re advised, Representative Reis, that the notes have not been filed, so the Bill will remain on the Order of Second Reading. Representative Mulligan, for what reason do you rise?”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A point of information. What Amendments are already on that Bill. Is it 1, 2, and 3 or 1 and 3?”
“Mr. Clerk, why don’t you advise the Lady? This is House… on House Bill 1063, what Amendments we have adopted.”
"On House Bill 1063, Amendment #1 was adopted in committee. Floor Amendment #3 was adopted by the House.”
“So…”
“And that’s gonna…”
“So, 1 and 3 are on there, 2 is not on?”
“That’s what the Clerk has indicated.”
“And you’re not moving it to Third, you’re keeping it at Second?”
“There have been requests for notes.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker.”
“Okay. Representative Sacia, on page 20 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2506. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill. 25… I’m sorry, 2506, Mr. Clerk.”
"House Bill 2506, a Bill for an Act concerning transportation. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“Mr. Speaker, could you hold it for about 10 minutes? I’m waiting for some information.” 09400037.doc 86 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Okay. Representative Sa… we’ll take this out of the record. Representative Sacia, you also have House Bill 3621. Okay, so you wanna take that one out of the record as well. Representative Saviano, you’ve got a few Bills we’d be happy to accommodate you on. And that’s… the first is House Bill 930. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.”
"House Bill 9… House Bill 930 has been read a second time, previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in committee. Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Saviano, has been approved for consideration.”
“Representative Saviano.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 930 simply requires that before a municipality issues a plumbing permit to a contractor, that the contractor provide proof of being licensed. Plumbers are licensed to do business in the State of Illinois, it’s a licensed profession. And this is a consumer protection measure, which the municipalities wanted and the plumbers union and the Department of Public Health. And I would ask for your favorable vote.”
“The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2. All in favor say ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
"No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Third Reading. On page 15 in the Calendar is House Bill 2525. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.” 09400037.doc 87 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
"House Bill 2525 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Saviano, has been approved for consideration.”
Speaker Hannig: “The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Saviano.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment #1 simply removes the fees that were included in the underlying Bill. At this point, with this Amendment, the Bill becomes an agreed Bill. I would ask for its adoption.”
“Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
"No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Third Reading. And now, finally, House Bill 3498. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
"House Bill 3498 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Saviano, has been approved for consideration.”
Speaker Hannig: “The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Saviano.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment #1 simply cleans up the language, at the request of the Illinois State Medical Society, to preserve the scope of practice for audiologists. I would ask for its adoption.” 09400037.doc 88 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
"No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Third Reading. On page 19 of the Calendar, Representative Schock, you have House Bill 3449. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.”
"House Bill 3449 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Schock, has been approved for consideration.”
“Representative Schock.”
"Thank you, Mr… thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment 1 addresses a concern brought to me in the committee by the domestic violence groups. And it limits the scope to children and… that… that are in the… knowingly in the presence of the batterer. So, limits the liability of the person so that if it’s in a more public space it will be limited. Be happy to answer any questions that Members might have.”
“The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1. Is there any discussion? Then all in favor say ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
"No further Amendments. No Motions filed.” 09400037.doc 89 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Third Reading. And Representative Schock, you also have, on page 20 of the Calendar, House Bill 3500. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
"House Bill 3500 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Schock, has been approved for consideration.”
“Representative Schock.”
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 3500 came out of committee today with a Motion to ‘do pass’. And be happy to answer any questions that Members might have.”
“The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1. Is there any discussion? Then all in favor say ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
"No further Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Third Reading. On page 27 of the Calendar, Representative Soto, you have several Bills, starting with… let’s start with 3471, 3471. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
"House Bill 3471, a Bill for an Act concerning employment. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
"Speaker, I’d like to move it back to Second for an Amendment that I’m waiting for.”
“Okay. So the Lady asks that we return this. Mr. Clerk, return this to the Order of Second Reading at the request of the Sponsor. On page 26, Representative Soto, you have House Bill 1133. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.” 09400037.doc 90 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
"House Bill 1133, a Bill for an Act in relation to public aid. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“The Lady from Cook, Representative Soto.”
"Speaker, I also have an Amendment pending.”
“Okay. So, we’ll return that to the Order of Second Reading.”
"But I have 16… 1565 I’m ready for.”
“Okay. So, we’ll return 1133 to Second Reading at the request of the Sponsor. And Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 1565.”
"House Bill 1565, a Bill for an Act concerning transportation. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“The Lady from Cook, Representative Soto.”
"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 1565, this Bill’s an initiative from Secretary of State, Jesse White. The Bill attempts to change a number of unrelated provisions regarding the Secretary’s office. It provides that the unlawful… provides that it is unlawful to possess… amends the Illinois Identification Card Act and the Illinois Vehicle Code. It possesses use to allow it to be used. Any materials, hardware, or software specifically designed or primary used for… for all reading and script language from the bar code and magnetic strip. I urge a ‘aye’ vote. Thank you.”
“This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, ‘Shall this Bill pass?’ All in favor vote ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all 09400037.doc 91 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Okay. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 114 voting ‘yes’ and 0 voting ‘no’. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 17 of the Calendar, Representative Stephens, you have House Bill 2768. Ron Stephens. 2768. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
"House Bill 2768 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Stephens, has been approved for consideration.”
Speaker Hannig: “The Gentleman from Bond, Representative Stephens.”
“It worked last time I threw my papers down, so I thought it’d… 2768 is… was amended in committee this morning and basically, it says that if the state is involved in any contractual agreements with drug companies, negotiated by a pharmacy benefits manager, that whatever those prices that are negotiated, those same prices shall be accessed by local independent pharmacists or others practiced… licensed to practice pharmacy in the State of Illinois. I’d move its adoption, be glad to answer any questions.”
“Representative, just to advise you, there is a second Amendment. Is it your intention to adopt this one or do you wish to withdraw this one? Okay. I… I think, actually, we made a mistake here. Two has been approved, 09400037.doc 92 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 Representative. Mr. Clerk, give us the status of this Bill. What Amendments have been approved?”
"On House Bill 2768, Floor Amendment #1 was referred to the Rules Committee. Floor Amendment #2 has been approved for consideration.”
“Okay. And Representative Stephens, on Floor Amendment #2, is that what you…”
“Thank you for the clarification, Mr. Speaker. I described the Amendment as Senate Amendment… or Hou… Floor Amendment #2 is as I just described.”
“Okay.”
“And I move the adoption of Floor Amendment #2.”
“So, the Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Parke.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
“He indicates he’ll yield.”
“Representative, does this delete the State Medical Society’s opposition to… that was on Amendment #1?”
“In the original Bill, Representative, I believe the State Medical Society was op… opposed to the first portion of the Bill that had to do with various classes of pharmacy. I don’t believe they had a position on this portion that remains the Bill now.”
“Well, Amendment 2 becomes the Bill, doesn’t it?”
“Amendment 2 becomes the Bill and I don’t believe they’ve had a position on that.” 09400037.doc 93 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“So you have not heard from them. So, as far as you know, there’s no position.”
“No, I have heard from some others.”
“Okay. All right then. Fine.”
“Is there any further discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
"No further Amendments. However, notes have been filed… requested and not yet filed.”
“Okay. So, Representative Stephens, that will stay on Second Reading until we can get the appropriate notes. Representative Sullivan has House Bill 782. Okay, Mr. Clerk, let’s take that out of the record. Representative Washington, you have House Bill 2449, page 15 of the Calendar. Representative Washington. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
"House Bill 2449 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Washington, has been approved for consideration.”
Speaker Hannig: “Representative Washington, you’re… you’re recognized on the Amendment.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, House Bill 2449 is an initiative by the United Transportation Union and it only is dealing with accidents as it happens to employees on the railroad to not delay, interfere with 09400037.doc 94 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 that. And we have a Floor Amendment and I ask for a favorable approval.”
“The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Parke.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
“He indicates he’ll yield.”
“Representative, would you characterize this Amendment #1 as technical in nature or do you think it’s more substinance (sic-substance)?”
“I’m sorry, would you repeat that?”
“Do you… would you consider Amendment 1 to be technical or does it have more substance than just being technical?”
“I think it’s technical, more technical.”
“Okay. Well, it is our opinion that this is a lot more substance in this Bill and that this Amendment should not have gone to the floor, it should’ve gone to committee so that there could be some real discussion on it. Ladies and Gentlemen, to the Bill. This does not remove the opposition of the Illinois Railroad Association that argues that the Amendment has important implications on current collective bargaining agreements. This is a significant collective bargaining issue and we’re disappointed that this Bill was not heard in committee, that it moved to the floor without that. And we just feel that that’s not the way that we wanna have things happen on the floor. That if it’s technical, that’s fine. But this is a collective 09400037.doc 95 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 bargaining issue and should have gone to committee. And I will rise in an opposition to the Gentleman’s Amendment 1.”
“And on the Amendment, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Lang, is recognized.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. I rise in support of the Gentleman’s Amendment. It’s a pretty simple thing he’s trying to do here. He’s trying to say that injured railroad workers should get treatment. I don’t know why anyone would be against that. It says that you can’t delay treatment, refuse treatment, discipline someone for getting injured on the job or for getting treatment. These are pretty simple. If… if there was a law that permitted the… the State of Illinois to let us sit here on the floor injured, we wouldn’t like that too much. And so, the current state of the law is that it’s possible and it happens every day that railroad workers don’t get their injuries treated in a timely fashion. It’s not good for them, it’s not good for the railroads. It’s not good for our economy to have railroad workers injured on the job and not treated. So, we should be voting for this Amendment.”
“The… the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Hultgren.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
“He indicates he’ll yield.”
“Quick question, Representative. It’s my understanding that this issue has been addressed previously through the collective bargaining process. Isn’t that true?” 09400037.doc 96 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Mr. Speaker, I can’t… I can’t hear… hear him.”
“I’ll speak louder. It’s my understanding that this issue has been addressed previously through the collective bargaining process. That’s true, isn’t it?”
“I don’t… I don’t know what you mean by that, Representative. When you say collective bargaining unit, the Bill is simple…”
“No, I said the collective bar… bargaining process. So this has been done through collective bargaining, isn’t that correct?”
“No, Sir. No, that’s incorrect. I know where you going. No, Sir.”
“So, for the record, you’re saying this has not been part of collective bargaining in the past?”
“I’m saying in the question that you just asked, the answer is ‘no’.”
“Okay. So, on the record, you’re stating that this has not been involved in collective bargaining in the past. To the Bill.”
“I’m saying…”
“To the Bill.”
“To the Bill.”
“I have some serious problems with this legislation, there’s some conflicts in it. I agree with the previous Representative who stated that this certainly is much more than a techni… technical Amendment, this is a very substantive Amendment that should be discussed. I think it’s very troubling the process that we have been involved 09400037.doc 97 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 in down here in Springfield when an issue… this is one that has been bargained previously between the parties, and now what’s happening is certain parties, rather than being involved in that bargaining process, are coming down to ask for special legislation. And this is special legislation that is very troubling because it’s conflicted… within the Bill there’s conflicting… or, within the Amendment there’s conflicting definitions. One is requiring that railroads should make good faith effort to provide medical treatment, then just a few lines later it says nothing in this section shall be contru… construed to require railroad or railroad employees to perform first-aid or medical care. There’s conflicting lines in here, there’s conflicting definitions, ambiguous definitions, something that sure… certainly be addressed in committee, allow both sides to be able to discuss this, clarify ambiguous definitions. I’ve got a real concern too that this criminal charges can be filed, that’s the process for complaints to be handled on this, criminal processes would be filed against a boss or person who allegedly would’ve failed to provide this medical treatment. I think that’s a very troubling process, as well. So, all in all, I ask the… my fellow Representatives to vote ‘no’ on this. This is something that is a substantive change, it should be addressed in committee. Unfortunately, that process is being bypassed, so I’d ask all of you to vote ‘no’ on this.” 09400037.doc 98 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Under the rules of Amendment debate, two have now spoken in response, one in support, and Representative Washington is recognized to close.”
“Thank you. Number one, I encourage my colleagues to put theirself in the place if they have an accident out on the highway. You don’t want antybody… anybody to interfere or delay your immediate access to medical care. This is simple, it talks about people in the railroad industry, which I am a part of. And I’ve been a conductor and I’ve experienced this firsthand. This is a Bill where they do not practice what they preach. This regulation would call into order… this Amendment. It’s so simple. Discipline means to bring charges against in a disciplinary proceeding, suspend, terminate, or make a note of reprimand on an employee’s record. Believe it or not, a lot of things are abuse, administratively, when one get hurts on the railroad. It simple says, a railroad should make a good faith effort to provide prompt medical attention for a railroad employee who is injured in the course of his employ. This is a decent Bill. This is a human Bill. This should be an automatic simple Bill that anybody that’s hurt, that the delay and interference of that would not be halted. And I ask for favorable support from my colleagues.”
“So, the question is, ‘Shall the Amendment be adopted?’ All in favor say ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?” 09400037.doc 99 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
"No further Amendments. However, notes have been requested and not yet filed.”
“Okay, so this will remain on the Order of Second Reading, Representative Washington. Representative Washington, on page 24 of the Calendar… on page 24 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 711. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
"House Bill 711, a Bill for an Act concerning business. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“Representative Washington.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I got some photographs here, and I know that you have the capability of showing ‘em. And I would like to present ‘em to my colleagues because I saw Sacia hold up some photos last week that were shown on the screen. So, it would be any clarity about this Bill. This Bill comes out of the need to protect our law enforcement people, as well as our citizens when a time of crisis was so-called terrorist act that happened in the State of Illinois. And you know that there are owners, private owners, who own military armament, and I’m talking about military armament that it has a engine, that is motorized, that is pulled by another vehicle that has wheels. I’m not talking about weapons. This particular Bill was caught in a lot of controversy ‘cause they were thinkin’ that I was sayin’ weapons. We’re not talkin’ about weapons that collectors have in terms of… of past usage in army conflict. We’re talkin’ about vehicles, jeeps, humvee, that type of thing, that they 09400037.doc 100 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 should have an indelible marking permanently placed on those item so in the… in the event of a conflict, of mayhem, that the State Police and others would not be under the deceptionary thing of anybody driving it to a area with a military vehicle that is associated with an authorized state, National Guard, or Federal Government vehicle. So I ask for passage of this Bill that a marking be put that clearly distinguish for law enforcement and for the everyday citizen, that this vehicle is not a sanctioned authorized government-issued vehicle, but is a personal vehicle owned by somebody in a personal way. And I have photographs for any my colleagues that are confused as to what I might be talking about.”
“Okay, the…”
“I’m open for any questions.”
“The Gentleman has moved for passage of House Bill 711. And on that question, the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Meyers (sic-Meyer).”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
“Indicates he’ll yield.”
“Representative, is there opposition to your Bill.”
“Mr. Speaker, I can’t hear him.”
“Representative, is there opposition to your Bill?”
“Yes, Sir. I believe that some people that had a misunderstanding that I was talkin’ about weapons in the initial beginning until I made clear I was talkin’ about a engine-driven or motorized vehicle, such as the ones I described.” 09400037.doc 101 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“And that’s taken care of by Amendment #1, correct?”
“Yes, Sir.”
“Now, I… I indicate in my analysis that there’s still opposition to the Bill. Is that correct?”
“Yes, Sir. I said that there was some people that misunderstood the first concept of the Bill.”
“But you amended it to take care of that misunderstanding. But I… I… my records indicate even with that Amendment there still is opposition.”
“Well, Representative, I’m looking on my analysis and there are some people opposed to it, like the Illinois State Rifle Association, that’s the only thing listed. But I’m also supported by the State Police.”
“Okay. So, at this point, you know of no organization that is opposed to your Bill?”
“That’s correct, Sir.”
“Okay. Thank you very much.”
“Thank you, Sir.”
“Representative Sacia.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
“Indicates he’ll yield.”
“Representative Washington, this weekend I was approached by several military collectors, vehicle collectors, about this very Bill, expressing a great deal of concern as they like to make a vehicle, for parade purposes and so forth, as authentic as they possibly can. They’re very, very concerned about the Bill. I don’t think they fully understand the lobbying process and what they 09400037.doc 102 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 should have done had they had serious concerns. But I wanted to share with you that there does seem to be a concern. Now, this was not an organized group, it was a loose-knit group of individuals who are in the business of collecting and… and reenacting, if you will, military events and doing things by utila… utilizing military vehicles, such as humvees and… and other motorized vehicles. They are… they expressed a great deal of concern to me about that and I would like to be able to go back to them and… and eradicate, in some way, that concern. If you could help me, Sir, I would greatly appreciate it.”
“Well, Representative Sacia, you know I respect you. But Representative Sacia, this is not about an individual’s concern about the use of something that they take pride in. We all take pride in things. We’re talking about a preventive measurement. We’re talking about doing something as a team before something happen rather than wait ‘til something happen. This is a… a piece of legislation that is clearly better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. And if people are gonna have, in their personal collective position, motorized vehicles that can easily be turned into active usage material just by some mechanic knowing what to do, then I think, for the… for the value of the State Police and others than mean a lot to both of us. That we should give them an opportunity that if mayhem happens to take place in the State of Illinois, as we prepare for terrorist outbreaks that are surely to come, that we don’t want to 09400037.doc 103 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 create a situation after the fact and lose your life, my family’s life…”
“Right.”
“…or the cop’s life out there thinking that military people are coming in that are authorized to be there, yet the equipment that is somebody’s personal ownership with the original markings on it. All we talkin’ about is an indelible marking that clearly shows us, not limiting the use of, but clearly show law enforcement, everyday people that this is not an authorized governmental sanctioned piece of material.”
“I appreciate that, Representative Washington. And I hope you understand that my vote of ‘no’ will be more out of supporting my constituents than taking great issue with you.”
“Yes, Sir.”
“It… it’s a concern that… that I bring before the House because they expressed the concern to me, and… and I would want you to understand that.”
“And thank you. And… and I understand you representing that concern the same as I with the State Police.”
“Any further discussion? Then Representative Washington is recognized to close.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To my colleagues in the House, this is a Bill of consciousness. And I will leave it at that. I hope that we… if we don’t pass it, we never come back to let it haunt us. That when things start 09400037.doc 104 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 happen in this country, and surely the things we see on CNN will happen here, heaven forbid, but surely we don’t think that we’re that safe that it can’t happen, otherwise why are we given money to prepare for it? So, when it does happen, if you don’t pass it and your family or friends are a victim of something that somebody has taken photocopy equipment under the auspice that it looks like the real thing and placates it and puts us in greater jeopardy, then it rests on your conscience. So, I hope that you pass this Bill. Thank you.”
“The question is, ‘Shall this Bill pass?’ All in favor vote ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 85 voting ‘yes’ and 29 voting ‘no’. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Winters, on page 21 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3685. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill, please.”
"House Bill 3685 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Winters, has been approved for consideration.”
“Representative Winters.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment to House Bill 3685, Amendment 1, removes some of the provisions that was promised in committee, language for climate controlled 09400037.doc 105 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 waiting areas. That an annual notice to the pilot be sent… policy be sent out to parents and that the bus could be run for health and safety considerations for passengers. I believe this removes the major opposition to the Bill and would hap… be happy to answer any questions.”
“The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Parke.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative Winters asked that I comment on his legislation. So, I thought I would certainly do that on his request. Representative, it shows here that there’s a strong opposition on behalf of Chicago public schools and LUDA and the Farm Bureau and Moodmiss (sic-Mid-West) Truckers Association. Has your Amendment 2 removed any of those people’s ob… objections?”
“I believe that we’ve removed all of the educational institutions’ opposition. In committee, we talked about the… particularly what they were concerned about is the idea that the school board would not only have to adopt the policy but then send it out to all parents and staff members. So that was removed, that it would simply be a policy that we’re requesting the school district to do but they would not have to publish it. It… it makes it pretty much voluntary but at least raises it as an issue for their management of their bus fleet.”
“Are… are you gonna put Amendment #2 on the Bill?”
“I don’t believe so. I think this is the only Amendment.” 09400037.doc 106 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Does this number… Amendment 1 become the Bill?”
“Yes.”
“Okay. Well then, I’ll wait ‘til it’s on Second Reading… Third Reading. Thank you.”
“Is there any further discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?”
"No further Amendments. All notes have been filed.”
“Third Reading. On page 11 of the Calendar, Representative Yarbrough, you have House Bill 1428. 1428. Okay, out of the record at the request of the Sponsor. Representative Yvetter Younge, you have House Bill 1272 on page 26 of the Calendar. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.”
"House Bill 1272, a Bill for an Act concerning community revitalization. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
Speaker Hannig: “The Lady from St. Clair, Representative Younge.”
“Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 1272 creates the Community Self-Revitalization Act. Provides that a municipality or a county or any combination there of… that are certified as a economically distressed community can go to DCEO, the Department of Commerce and (sic-Economic Opportunity) Community Affairs, and ask to be certified as a economically depressed community and may appoint a board 09400037.doc 107 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 of economic advisors to come up with a 3- to 5-year plan as to how to recover economically. The Amendment is… is an Amendment suggested by the Illinois Municipal League that would put more business people on the Board of Economic Advisors. And I ask for the passage of this legislation.”
“The Lady moves for the passage of House Bill 1272. This is on the Order of Short Debate. And Representative Parke is recognized in response.”
“Thank you. Ladies and Gentlemen, to this Bill. We discussed this Bill last week and talked about the concern. There is 18 members on this board, they’ll be served without compensation but they will be reimbursed for expenses. This, again, is an expense that we do not have money for and I would respectfully ask that the Members vote ‘no’ on this legislation until next year when, hopefully, our budget is more favorable and can afford some of these ideas that the Lady continues to put forward.”
“Representative Younge is recognized to close.”
“We have severely depressed areas in Illinois and they need help. And the way we can help them is to come up with a recovery plan and then decide as to what the funding is. But the funding would come from the Federal Government, the State Government, and private industry and foundations. And this Bill offers us an opportunity to get the economically depressed areas working in conjunction with regional planning bodies to recover economically in our severely depressed areas. And I ask for your vote on this.” 09400037.doc 108 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“The question is, ‘Shall this Bill pass?’ All those in favor vote ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Rep… Representative Schock, do you wish to be recorded? Okay. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting ‘yes’ and 1 voting ‘no’. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Bailey, on page 23 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 58. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
"House Bill 58, a Bill for an Act regarding education. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“The Lady from Cook, Representative Bailey. Do you want to take this out, Representative, or do you want to proceed? Representative Bailey. I’ve been advised, Representative Bailey, that this Bill’s now under your name. Is that correct?”
“Yes.”
“Okay. Would you like to present it at this time?”
“Yes.”
“Okay. Please proceed.”
“Okay. Thank you. Okay, I’m sorry. House Bill 58 amends the Critical Health Problems in Comprehensive Health Education Act. Requires that comprehensive health education programs include instructions in… in secondary school on the prevention, transmission, and spread of HIV/AIDS, rather than just AIDS, disaster and terrorism 09400037.doc 109 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 preparedness, rather than disaster survival, clinical depression and suicide prevention and organ, tissue, and blood donation. As amended, provides that notwithstanding the provision of the Act, any portion of the School Code requiring parental consent is valid. And I ask for an ‘aye’ vote.”
“This is on the Order of Short Debate. And in response, Representative Eddy is recognized.”
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
“She indicates she’ll yield.”
"Representative, there was a great deal of concern in committee regarding some of the language. Could you specifically tell us if the Amendment has removed all opposition?”
“Umm.”
"As I… as I recall, Representative, and I’m not sure if… the… the agreement was that the Sponsor would work with the alliance and reach a consensus on this Bill. And I… I’m just checking to see if that’s taken place.”
“I believe so.”
“Repre…”
“At this time, I’m gonna turn this over to Representative Lang.”
“Yeah, Rep… Representative Bailey yields to Representative Lang.”
“Thank you. Representative, I did say in committee I would work with anyone who was interested. I have to tell 09400037.doc 110 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 ya, no one came to me. So, they probably bought into my suggestion that while this at first blush might appear to be a mandate, it really just takes a current mandate and tweaks it. No one has come to my office to ask me for any Amendments on this piece of legislation.”
"Ha… has there been an attempt between those supporting this legislation and the alliance, for example, to clear up any misunderstandings? Are you aware of any of that?”
“Again, Representative, you know I’ll work with anybody on any of my Bills. No one has come to me on this piece of legislation. And… and I think you’ll agree that even in committee the… the opposition was very mild. They… they were concerned about it being a mandate, I explained that in my opinion it wasn’t. The committee agreed, I think. And I think we can agree that this just simply tweaks a current mandate and does some very important things. And no one has come to talk to me about this legislation. And being House Bill #58, it got out of committee a long time ago.”
"Okay. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Mr. Speaker, to the Bill.”
“To the Bill.”
"Or to the Amendment. Or Bill, I’m sorry. To the Bill.”
“To the Bill.”
"Thank you. I take the Gentleman for his word. I do remember that there were some concerns, they may have been very minor. I just wanted to… to make sure that if there were any conversations or any agreements that had taken 09400037.doc 111 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 place, that those were addressed, especially those at the time by the… the alliance. And I… I thank the Lady and Gentleman for their indulgence.”
“So, there’s enough interest, this Chair will move this to Standard Debate. And that question, Representative Bassi is recognized.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Lady yield? Will the Lady yield?”
“The Lady will yield.”
“With all due respect, great respect, for the Sponsor, I would like to remind the Body that public schools in America today are expected to: ‘Teach good nutrition habits; train students in pulmonary-coronary resuscitation; give specialized instruction for the hard of hearing, the blind, and the neurologically impaired; treat the emotionally disturbed; train the mentally retarded; teach the gifted; do eye testing; give inoculations; teach first aid procedures; provide pregnancy counseling; assist in disease prevention; inculcate morals, ethics, and values; collect money to rebuild the Statue of Liberty; stress the prevention of drug, alcohol, and tobacco abuse; help students develop political know-how; develop civic responsibility; provide sex education; provide suicide counseling; maintain birth information and age certification data; provide instruction in good health care and AIDS prevention; teach driver training; provide civil rights and racial tolerance; foster integration; teach the principles of free enterprise; provide career information; 09400037.doc 112 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 assist in career planning; detect and report child abuse; teach telephone manners and etiquette; instruct in speed reading; eradicate head lice, scabies, and other diseases; assist in charity fund-raising; provide vocational training; build economic awareness; serve hot lunches and breakfasts; dispense surplus milk; do job placement; stress bicycle safety and pedestrian safety; promote physical fitness; assist with bilingual language development; counsel delinquents; foster metric education; provide transportation; teach consumer education; counsel students with problems; follow due process procedures; protect student privacy; provide computer literacy; teach them to like broccoli; unteach them the four food groups; teach them the pyramid; teach humaneness and individual responsibility; eliminate sex discrimination; assist in bladder control; develop an appreciation of other people and other cultures; promote the uses of information; develop the ability to reason; build patriotism and loyalty to the ideals of democracy; promote an understanding of the heritage of our country; build respect for the worth and dignity of the individual; develop skills for entry into a specific field; teach management of money, property, and resources; provide income tax counseling; develop curiosity and a thirst for learning; develop skills in the use of leisure time; teach pride in work; build a feeling of self- worth or self-respect; avoid religion, and teach reading, writing, and arithmetic.’ With all due respect, I will be voting ‘no’ on this Bill.” 09400037.doc 113 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
Speaker Hannig: “Representative Parke is recognized for 5 minutes.”
“Okay, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, to the Bill.”
“To the Bill.”
“Every time I have spoke to educational groups or school boards or teachers’ groups, they say, ‘What we want is no more unfunded mandates.’ Unfortunately, even though we have quality Sponsors on this, this is an unfunded mandate. And it’s just, in itself, if it was the only one that we did this year it probably wouldn’t be a bad idea, but this is added to others that we have. So I’m gonna respectfully rise in opposition to the Lady’s Bill and ask you to vote ‘no’. In addition to this Bill, it is said that the topics being added might not be appropriate for all age groups. Now, I think that is a concern that we might have on this kind of legislation. That it’s a grade 6-12 and there is an awful lot of difference between a 6th grader and a 12th grader. And so I have a concern of what topics might be taught in the schools. So, being another unfunded mandate, I rise in opposition to the Lady’s Bill.”
“Representative Bailey is recognized to close.”
“Thank you. I respect the comments, I didn’t understand some of ‘em. But, again, I ask for an ‘aye’ vote.”
“The question is, ‘Shall this Bill pass?’ All in favor vote ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have 09400037.doc 114 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 82 voting ‘yes’ and 32 voting ‘no’. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Bradley, you have on page 27 of the Calendar, House Bill 2528. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
"House Bill 2528, a Bill for an Act concerning finance. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“Representative Bradley.” Bradley, J.: “Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Already exists in the law in the State of Illinois that if they’re gonna close a facility, a state facility, that there’s a discretionary public hearing. This would make that public hearing mandatory. I would ask for an ‘aye’ vote.”
“The Gentleman’s moved for the passage of House Bill 2528. It’s on the Order of Short Debate. And Representative Parke is recognized in response.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
“He indicates he’ll yield.”
“Now, this Bill affects the Economic and Fiscal Commission or… so, would you tell us…” Bradley, J.: “Current…”
“…what authority you’re taking away from us or adding to us?” Bradley, J.: “No, I don’t think we’re taking anything away. The economic and fiscal authority now can… can ask that a public hearing be held. This would require a public 09400037.doc 115 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 hearing anytime we’re gonna close down a state facility, as occurred last year’s…”
“And this… on this piece of legislation, when you presented it in committee, was anybody in opposition to it?” Bradley, J.: “Not that I’m aware of. I can’t reme… it’s been a while, but I can’t remember there being any opposition.”
“And did you… and whose Bill is this?” Bradley, J.: “It was a… brought to me by AFSCME.”
“By AFSCME?” Bradley, J.: “Yeah.”
“And so they like… this makes it mandatory…” Bradley, J.: “Yeah, it seems reasonable to me…”
“…for a waiting period?” Bradley, J.: “…that if we’re gonna shut down a facility we oughta have public hearing.”
“Well, we have… we have public hearings at our… in that commission hearing. I just wanted to make sure… well, if you haven’t heard of anybody objecting then I… I guess we don’t have a problem with it. And thank you, Representative.” Bradley, J.: “Thank you.”
“Representative Mulligan.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
“Indicates he’ll yield.”
“Representative Bradley, are you aware of a new study that has just come out looking at how the state treats 09400037.doc 116 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 mental health and DD and that we are the most institutionalized state in the country?” Bradley, J.: “No, I wasn’t aware of that.”
“And the proponents of your Bill are all people that have a vested interest in keeping state facilities open as opposed to closing them in a reasonable manner, if that were a better way of doing it.” Bradley, J.: “Well, I think those people would be proponents but I wouldn’t think it’d be a… I would think it would be an overgeneralization to say that all the proponents were.”
“I think the way you’re changing this is before the Economic and Fiscal Commission, or whatever their name is now, had the ability to let a Governor look at how you would close a state’s facility if you had to. And the way you’re changing the law would make it impossible for that to happen.” Bradley, J.: “I… I’m sorry, I lost you.”
“The way the current law it written, it would allow a Governor, through the Economic Fiscal Commission, to have the ability to perhaps close a state facility. But the way you’re changing the law would make that practically impossible. And since the study that was commissioned under the memorandums of understanding for fee-for-service clearly states that Illinois is the most institutionalized state. That’s why if you take a look at who’s opposed to this, it’s United Cerebral Palsy of Illinois. I’m presuming there would be other institutions, particularly ones that provide community-based services that would 09400037.doc 117 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 oppose your Bill if they took a good, hard look at it. For the simple reason that we are the most institutionalized state as far as how we provide services to the developmentally disabled and the mentally ill. So, the way your Bill reads it would make it more difficult for a Governor or an executive officer to take a look at how you would close a facility in order to shift services, as opposed to keeping all facilities open even though they’re more expensive and cost of more to provide services than say a community-based organization would. Do you understand what I’m…” Bradley, J.: “All this Bill does is in the case where we’re gonna put people out on the street, we’re gonna shut down a facility… we’re gonna have… we’re gonna…”
“All this Bill does is make sure that…” Bradley, J.: “Well, I’m trying to answer and…”
“All right.” Bradley, J.: “…I… I don’t know if it was a question or a statement. But basically, what this does is require a mandatory public hearing. It doesn’t… I mean, it’s a public hearing. That’s all it is, a public hearing.”
“Does this just make it longer for them close?” Bradley, J.: “It’s a public hearing. I mean, I don’t know about all the semantics of it. It’s a mandatory public hearing. If we’re gonna shut down a facility, let’s have a mandatory public hearing.” 09400037.doc 118 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“All right. So, if a Governor feels like he needs to close a facility or we’ve had a discussion about facilities for several years, the Governor now could not do that?” Bradley, J.: “I don’t think… I think that’s… you’re reading it wrong, with all due respect. Right now, the Economic Fiscal Commission can ask for a discretionary public hearing. This just says let’s have a public hearing.”
“Can you tell me why United Cerebral Palsy is against your Bill?” Bradley, J.: “Oh, I wasn’t aware they were.”
“So, is that you’re answer, you have no idea that they were opposed to it?” Bradley, J.: “I didn’t know they were.”
“What committee did this Bill come through?” Bradley, J.: “State Government, I think.”
“Well, all you’re asking for then is a public hearing?” Bradley, J.: “Yeah, my understanding is that all they request is a mandatory public hearing if we’re gonna close a facility.”
“And currently, the way the law reads, would you explain to me how this changes the law?” Bradley, J.: “Well, right now the Economic Fiscal Commission has discretion to call for a public hearing and this would mandate a public hearing.”
“So, would Economic and Fiscal currently be able to take a jo… take a look at a facility closing and judge the 09400037.doc 119 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 economic impact and see if it’s necessary for us to have 65 days?” Bradley, J.: “I would assume that Ec and Fisc could still do their job, it would just not… they would not be up to them to determine whether or not there was a public hearing, we would have one… a public hearing by virtue of this law.”
“Well, I… I do believe that the way you’re doing this almost ensures that we will never close a state facility.”
“Representative Mautino.”
“Thank you. And I rise in… in support of the Gentleman’s Bill. And currently, under the last Budget Implementation Act, Ec and Fiscal Commission, which is now Governmental Finance and Accountability, will hear or have discretionary hearings for closures of institutions or facilities with 50 or more employees. Now, down in my area, in my neck of the woods, I may have a facility that has only three employees. And the next thing, ya know, from Bureau County, which is 847 miles… square miles, they may have to travel some place else and we really wouldn’t have a say. So, I… I don’t have a problem with the Governmental Accountability Commission having some insight and oversight when we decide to close facilities, whether for fiscal reasons or for… or for other reasons where the… they may need citing. This allows for a public hearing, which currently is discretionary. Down in my neck of the woods we have very few facilities that would hit that 50- person mark that would compel a hearing. So, I appreciate your… your Bill and just ask for an ‘aye’ vote.” 09400037.doc 120 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005
“Representative Reitz.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
“He indicates he’ll yield.”
“If a facility closes does this require a public hearing?” Bradley, J.: “Yes.”
“Good idea, thank you.”
“Representative Bradley to close.” Bradley, J.: “I’d ask for an ‘aye’ vote.”
“The question is, ‘Shall this Bill pass?’ All in favor vote ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative… Representative Patterson, do you wish to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 93 voting ‘yes’, 15 voting ‘no’, and 6 voting ‘present’. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 27 of the Calendar, Representative McAuliffe, you have House Bill 2900. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Bill.”
" House Bill 2900, a Bill for an Act concerning criminal law. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
Speaker Hannig: “The Gentleman from Cook, Representative McAuliffe.”
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 29 (sic-2900) would add to the list of offenses where bail could be denied in the following: if anyone was convicted under the Arsonist Registration Act, 09400037.doc 121 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 which we passed last year. And those counts of arson would be: aggravated arson, residential arson, place of worship arson, or possession of explosives or explosive or incinerary (sic-incendiary) devices. That… that they could be denied bail after a hearing. And I’d be happy to answer any questions and ask for the passage of House Bill 2900.”
“This Bill’s on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, ‘Shall this Bill pass?’ All in favor vote ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Patterson, would you like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting ‘yes’, 0 voting ‘no’, and 1 voting ‘present’. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Mulligan. Representative Mulligan, you have on page 23 of the Calendar, House Bill 3853. Do you wish us to read the Bill, Representative? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.”
"House Bill 3853 has been read a second time, previously. No Committee Amendments. No Floor Amendments. No Motions filed.”
“Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of House Bill 805?”
"House Bill 805, a Bill for an Act concerning businesses. Third Reading of this House Bill.”
“Mr. Clerk, return that to the Order of Second Reading at the request of the Sponsor. On page 30 of the 09400037.doc 122 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 Calendar, there are several Motions in writing to table. Representative Flowers is recognized on House Bill 246. The Lady moves to table House Bill 246. All in favor say ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And this Bill is tabled. Representative Flowers is recognized on House Bill 248. The Lady moves to table the Amendment 2 to this Bill. Is there any discussion? Then all… Representative Flowers moves to table Amendment 2 to House Bill 248. Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Lady’s Motion to Table say ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Motion prevails. And Amendment #2 is tabled. House Bill 383. Representative Soto. Excuse me, House Bill 382. Representative Soto. The Lady moves to table this Bill. Is that correct, Representative? Is there any discussion? Then all in favor say ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. The Motion is adopted and the Bill is tabled. And on page 30 of the Calendar, House Bill 639. Representative Flowers moves to table House Bill 639. All in favor say ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Bill is tabled. House Bill 1061. Representative Osmond moves to table House Bill 1061. All in favor say ‘aye’; opposed say ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Bill is tabled. House Bill 1449. Representative Daniels moves to table this Bill. All in favor say ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And this Bill is tabled. House Bill 3487. Representative Pritchard moves to table this Bill. All in favor say ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And this Bill is tabled. Okay. 09400037.doc 123 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 Representative Froehlich moves to table House Resolution 270. All in favor say ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And this Resolution is tabled. Representative Currie is recognized for a Motion.”
“Thank you, Speaker. I have a Motion to suspend the posting requirement so that the following House Resolutions may be heard in the committees to which they have been assigned. House Resolutions 83, 86, 90, 117, 119, 120, 136, 141, 143, 144, 145, 147, 148, and 149, 151, 2 (sic- 152), and 3 (sic-153), and 4 (sic-154), and 5 (sic-155), 156, 169, and 70 (sic-170), 172, 175, 177, 180, 182, 186, 188, 193, 196, 199, 201, 214, 220, 228, 233, 234, 259, 260, 261, and 262. And continuing the Motion, the following House Joint Resolutions: 6, 7, 9, 17, 18, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 28, 29, 31, 33, and 34.”
“You heard the Lady’s Motion to Suspend the posting requirements. Is there any discussion? Then all in favor say… does the Lady have leave? The Lady is granted leave. And so the posting requirements for her… in her Motion are waived. And the Bills will be heard in the appropriate committee. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Committee Reports… schedule… the committee schedule.”
"Committee schedule for this evening. Meeting at 5 p.m. or immediately after Session, the Environment and Energy Committee in Room 118, Local Government in Room C-1, Public Utilities will meet in Room D-1, State Government Administration will meet in Room 115, Developmental Disabilities and Mental Illness will meet in Room 114. At 09400037.doc 124 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 5:30 p.m., Elementary & Secondary Education will meet in Room 114 and the Labor Committee will meet in Room 118.”
“Mr. Clerk, what is the status of House Bill 3621?”
Clerk Mahoney: "House Bill 3621 is on the Order of Third Reading.”
“Return that to the Order of Second Reading at the request of the Sponsor. Mr. Clerk, read the Agreed Resolutions.”
Clerk Mahoney: "Agreed Resolutions. House Resolution 290, offered by Representative Beaubien. House Resolution 292, offered by Representative Tenhouse. House Resolution 293, offered by Representative Jakobsson. House Resolution 294, offered by Representative Cultra. And House Resolution 295, offered by Representative Howard.”
“Representative Currie moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All in favor say ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Are there any announcements? Then Representative Currie moves that allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk, that the House stand adjourned until tomorrow, Tuesday, April 12, at the hour of 12 noon. All in favor say ‘aye’; opposed ‘nay’. The ‘ayes’ have it. And the House stands adjourned.”
"House Perfunctory Session will come to order. Referred to the Committee… House Committee on Rules is House Resolution 291, offered by Representative Jefferson, and House Joint Resolution 38, offered by Representative 09400037.doc 125 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 Mendoza. On the Order of Senate Bills-First Reading is Senate Bill 446, offered by Representative Bra… Bradley, Rich Bradley, a Bill for an Act concerning public employee benefits. Senate Bill 475, a Bill for an Act concerning insurance, offered by Representative Reitz. House Resolution (sic-Senate Bill) 479, offered by Representative Schock, a Bill for an Act concerning education. House… Senate Bill 559, offered by Representative Sacia, a Bill for an Act concerning health. Senate Bill 562, offered by Representative Beiser, a Bill for an Act concerning methamphetamine. Senate Bill 615, offered by Representative Schock, a Bill for an Act concerning revenue. Senate Bill 659, offered by Representative Myers, a Bill for an Act concerning rural technology. Senate Bill 769, offered by Representative Eddy, a Bill for an Act concerning altern… alternative fuels. Senate Bill 770, offered by Representative Parke, a Bill for an Act concerning insurance. Senate Bill 849, offered by Representative Gordon, a Bill for an Act concerning health facilities. Senate Bill 1219, a Bill for an Act concerning property, offered by Representative Saviano. Senate Bill 1220, offered by Representative Rita, a Bill for an Act concerning health. Senate Bill 1221, offered by Representative Meyer, a Bill for an Act concerning transportation. Senate Bill 1354, offered by Representative Stephens, a Bill for an Act concerning State Government. Senate Bill 1442, offered by Representative Lang, a Bill for an Act concerning State Government. 09400037.doc 126 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 Senate Bill 1453, offered by Representative Miller, a Bill for an Act concerning finance. Senate Bill 1622, offered by Representative Mendoza, a Bill for an Act concerning revenue. Senate Bill 1626, offered by Representative Mendoza, a Bill for an Act concerning education. Senate Bill 1639, offered by Representative Black, a Bill for an Act concerning education. Senate Bill 1645, offered by Representative Munson, a Bill for an Act concerning technology development. Senate Bill 1651, offered by Representative Miller, a Bill for an Act concerning public aid. Senate Bill 1660, offered by Representative Winters, a Bill for an Act in relation to public employee benefits. Senate Bill 1666, offered by Representative Verschoore, a Bill for an Act concerning transportation. Senate Bill 1707, offered by Representative Krause, a Bill for an Act concerning revenue. Senate Bill 1741, offered by Representative Hoffman, a Bill for an Act concerning transportation. Senate Bill 1751, offered by Representative Miller, a Bill for an Act concerning civil liabilities. Senate Bill #3, offered by Representative Bellock, a Bill for an Act concerning education. Senate Bill 12, offered by Representative Feigenholtz, a Bill for an Act concerning insurance. Senate Bill 1814, offered by Representative Reitz, a Bill for an Act concerning finance. Senate Bill 1857, offered by Representative Saviano, a Bill for an Act concerning government. Senate Bill 1862, offered by Representative Hamos, a Bill for an Act concerning State Government. Senate Bill 1863, offered by 09400037.doc 127 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day 4/11/2005 Representative Hamos, a Bill for an Act concerning State Government. Senate Bill 1878, offered by Representative Feigenholtz, a Bill for an Act concerning health. Senate Bill 1882, offered by Representative Mathias, a Bill for an Act concerning libraries. Senate Bill 1895, offered by Representative Mathias, a Bill for an Act concerning estates. Senate Bill 1912, offered by Representative Scully, a Bill for an Act concerning regulation. Senate Bill 1977, offered by Representative Verschoore, a Bill for an Act concerning finance. There being no further business, the House Perfunctory Session will stand adjourned.” 09400037.doc 128