Illinois House Floor Debate — April 24, 2007

"The House shall come to order. The Members shall be in their chairs. We ask the Members and our guests in the gallery to turn off laptop computers, cell phones and pagers, and we ask our guests in the gallery to rise and join us for the invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance. We shall we led in prayer today by Father Al Kemme, who is the Pastor of St. Thomas the Apostle Church in Newton, Illinois. Father Kemme is the guest of Representative Reis."

"We shall be led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Representative Eddy."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record show that Representatives Molaro and Patterson are excused today."

"Mr. Bost."

"The Clerk shall take the record. There being 111 Members responding to the Attendance Roll Call, there is a quorum present. Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Clerk, HR 137." 09500041.doc 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would like for you to please take this opportunity to applaud the hard work and the efforts of Simeon Basketball Team. And my nephew Joshua Jamal Anderson. Please, would you give them a hand. Thank you."

"Mr. Clerk, House Resolution 71."

"Mr. Winters."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Resolution. There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the Resolution be adopted?' Those in favor say 'aye'; those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the 09500041.doc 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 Resolution is adopted. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of House Bill 1?"

"Mr. Fritchey on Amendment #1."

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the Body. Amendment 1 was a technical issue talking about payment of penalties due under the Act and that those payments would go to the General Revenue Fund. We know of no objections."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Amendment. Those in favor say 'aye'; those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Mr. Fritchey."

"Thank you, Sir. Ladies and Gentlemen, Amendment 2 tightens the provisions of the underlying Bill to cover a contribution ban during the bidding period. We can talk about this further during the discussion. The Bill, again, we know of no objections. Only thing this makes a good Bill better."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Amendment. Those in favor say 'aye'; those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?" 09500041.doc 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of House Bill 8?"

Speaker Madigan: "Again, Mr. Clerk, is the Bill on Second Reading?"

"Is the Bill on Second Reading?"

"And is there an Amendment?"

"All right. On Amendment #2, Mr. Fritchey."

"Oh, Amendment 2, Speaker, I believe, is a technical Amendment. We know of no objections."

Speaker Madigan: "The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2. Those in favor say 'aye'; those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Number 3. Mr. Fritchey."

"Floor Amendment 3 exempts out legislative staff from certain revolving door provisions within the Bill. Raises the threshold for itemization of expenditures from ten 09500041.doc 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 dollars ($10) to seventy-five dollars ($75). We know of no objection, Speaker."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Amendment. Those in favor say 'aye'; those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Put the Bill on the Order of Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of House Bill 1557?"

"Mr. Clerk, put that Bill on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Acevedo. Did you wish to call House Bill 873? The Bill's on Third. Okay. Okay. Take the Bill out of the record. Mr. Boland, did you wish to call House Bill 1460? Mr. Boland. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 1460 sets up a program of replacement of lighting in state buildings that are a thousand (1,000) square feet in size or larger, where it is practical. And as the old lighting… light bulbs burn out they would be replaced by Energy Star labeled light bulbs. This is a program of the United States Environmental Protection Agency and the purpose of this Bill is to save energy and save taxpayer money over the long term."

"Representative Hannig is in the Chair. This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in 09500041.doc 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 response? Then the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting in open. Have all voted who wish? Representative Durkin, do you wish to be recorded? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'yes' and 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Black, you have House Bill 618. Excuse me, we'll go back to that. Representative Bradley on House Bill 734. John Bradley. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Bradley." Bradley, J.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill is brought to me by the AARP. All it does is provide that there would be a phone number that's… a twenty-four-hour number the people can call with regards to elder abuse problems, complaints, et cetera. My area already does this and there's a hope that this could be provided statewide. Ask for an 'aye' vote."

"This is on the Order of Short Debate. And in response, the Gentleman from DeKalb, Representative Pritchard."

Speaker Hannig: "Is there any further discussion? Then Representative Bradley, you're recognized to close." Bradley, J.: "Ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Moffitt, do you wish to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'yes' and 1 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Black on House Bill 618. Do you wish us to read the Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black."

"This is on the Order of Short Debate. And in response, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Lang."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he'll yield."

"Representative, as you… I'm sure well know I support your Bill, but I want to ask you a couple of questions to get some facts out here on the floor. So I see that the department opposed the Bill, was that simply on financial grounds?"

"They had no substantive problem with the Bill?"

"Has… does anybody have anybody substantive problem with your Bill that you're aware of?"

"And just for the record here. We're talking about out- of-pocket expenses…"

"…that people, so if they wander into the gift shop and they want to buy a candy bar…"

"…or if they… or if they want to buy some ice cream or whatever on the facility, for a very long period of time 09500041.doc 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 they've been limited to thirty dollars ($30), that's a dollar a day. Is that correct?"

"And how long have they been limited to this?"

"So, for the last almost twenty (20) years they've been limited to a dollar a day. And all you're trying to do is… is basically allow these folks to lift themselves out of poverty within the nursing home to allow them a few human dignities, like buying some ice cream."

"Thank you, Representative. Mr. Speaker, to the Bill."

"To the Bill."

"Mr. Black has been working on this Bill a long time. It was a good Bill when he started working on it, it's a better Bill today because he has good revenue stream for it. We should not require our constituents that live in nursing homes to live in poverty. We should allow them these few human dignities to allow them to live out their years in these nursing homes with some dignity, respect and some semblance of a normal life. This is a very good piece of legislation and I would urge you to vote 'aye'." 09500041.doc 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"Any further discussion? Then the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'yes' and 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative John Bradley, you have House Bill 1775. Representative Bradley, do you wish us to read that Bill? Out of the record. Representative Crespo, you have House Bill 1434. Do you wish us to read that Bill? Okay. Out of the record. Representative Cultra, you have House Bill 1116. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Iroquois, Representative Cultra."

"This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? The Gentleman from Cook, Representative McCarthy."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he'll yield."

"There's a… it's real noisy in here. Could you tell me what this Bill does again?"

"Just fire chiefs themselves?"

"And would it be front and back?"

"And this would be in lieu of a regular Illinois license plate?"

"What is the cost going to be?"

"Eight dollars ($8)?"

"What about the seventy-eight dollar ($78) registration fee?"

"So, it'd be eight (8) in addition to any regular fee?"

"Okay. Well, you're probably aware that I think we have way too many license plates on the streets of Illinois as it is. On the way down here today, I came upon another one that I had no idea even what state it was. I think this is a safety hazard for our police officers and along with maybe one (1) or two (2) other people in the House, I'll be voting against this Bill."

"Representative Bost."

"Indicates he'll yield."

Speaker Hannig: "Is there any further discussion? Representative Cultra, you're recognized to close."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Hassert and Kosel, do you wish to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 103 voting 'yes' and 7 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Feigenholtz, you have House Bill 3604. Do you wish us to read that on Third? 3604. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

Speaker Hannig: "The Lady from Cook, Representative Feigenholtz." 09500041.doc 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"Mr. Speaker, I think that there is an Amendment that was just released from Rules. So it needs… can you move it to Second?"

"Well, I'm advised that your Amendment is out of Rules. So Representative, why don't we take the Bill back to Second. And Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"

"Representative Feigenholtz on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 3604 is language that was worked out between the proponents of Agudath, Israel, and the Illinois Hospital Association. I'd be glad to answer any questions."

"Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. So, we're going to hold this on Third at this time, Representative. And Representative Graham, you have House Bill 731. Do you wish us to read this Bill? 731. Representative Graham. Out of the record. Representative Hamos on House Bill 1842. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Hamos."

"Thank you. Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm pleased to present to you today House Bill 1842, which would create an energy 09500041.doc 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 efficient Building Code for Illinois. This would only apply to new construction of homes and the theory really is, that if we build the building right in the first place, we have a real chance to help that homebuyer achieve energy efficiency, energy savings and energy cost savings. That is the essence of helping people through what our difficult escalating electric costs in a time when we know that we should be saving on our energy use. This would do this in a simple way by building the home energy efficient in the first place. As I mentioned on Second Reading, the Committee on Energy & Environment helped me think through this concept, and we are applying this only to new construction, and I will say to you, that if in fact we do this, we will help people amortize the costs which are not that great, but there are some upfront costs. The costs will be amortized and recouped within three (3) to seven (7) years but the co… but the families will begin to feel the energy cost savings the very first month. The electric bills will in fact be reduced. Let me say that forty-two (42) states have adopted at least one version of the Illinois Energy Efficiency Code. A hundred thirty (130) Illinois municipalities have adopted this, and Illinois already has this in place, something we passed two (2) years ago for commercial, industrial, institutional, and high-rise residences. And I seek your support. This passed out of committee by a very strong numbers and I think it's because this is the year we are more aware than ever that what our constituents are looking for is help with their electric 09500041.doc 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 bills but also help in thinking ahead about the needs in this country for energy savings."

Speaker Hannig: "We're going to put this on the Order of Standard Debate to accommodate our Members. And Representative Sacia, you're recognized for five (5) minutes."

"…she indicates…"

"…she indicates she'll yield."

"And I don't know the ins and outs of this Energy Code, Representative Sacia, but I can tell you that when I sat next to the homebuilder lobbyist in committee and he raised the same numbers, I challenged him and ever since then, three (3) weeks ago, I have been challenging the homebuilders to come up with the basis for their 09500041.doc 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 information. They have never provided it. Let me say to you, that the group that I am working with did commission a study. The Pacific Northwest National Laboratories does this kind of work. They looked at a standard downstate, two thousand (2,000) square foot home, and they looked at these kinds of incremental costs and what… what we're talking about typically, is ceiling and wall insulation, windows and energy efficient furnace. Those are the three (3) real components, and the total incremental costs for a rather modest home downstate, was fifteen hundred dollars ($1500). And that has never been challenged by the opponents, but they had never produced any data either."

"Well, it increases the cost of the home at the front end, but it is recouped immediately with a lower electric bill, something that we have been struggling with all Session and the incremental costs will be… will be recouped to a positive cash flow in three (3) to seven (7) years." 09500041.doc 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"Representative Joyce."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I agree with the previous speaker that this could cost on the front end some more money. But he mentioned about compromise and we couldn't find a compromise. I would argue that in committee the Sponsor listened to the Members of the committee and came up with a compromise. The cost is certainly greater, as all that were in the committee and all that were testifying in the committee would agree, the cost of making a residential building more energy efficient is much greater on an existing building. The original Bill called for alternations, for additions to homes, for any kind of repairs done to homes that these Energy Efficient Codes would apply. The Sponsor listened to the Members of that 09500041.doc 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 committee, changed the Bill and exempted all repairs, alterations, and additions on homes. And I live in a district in which on one end of the district a lot of new homes are being built. On the other end of the district, a lot of existing homes are being added onto, in many cases people refer to the additions that are being added as building a house upon a house. The Sponsor's taking those cases out of this… out of this Bill, but on the case of new homes, I talked to many individual homebuilders within my district, and not only are they building these homes with an energy efficient… in an energy efficient manner, but the market and the buyers have asked for energy efficient homes because, in fact, it does save them in the long run, in the very short long run, it saves them money by doing this. This is a good Bill. It's been a lot of hard work and a lot of compromise has taken place in developing this… the final text of this Bill. So, I would just urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Black."

"She indicates she'll yield."

"Well, I also pointed out, Representative Black, that forty-two (42) states have already done this. We are really 09500041.doc 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 at the back end of thinking about energy efficiency, and if there's ever been a year to do it, this is the year. So again, the people who are building houses, for example, on the spec don't necessarily have a long-term interest in that family, they're going to sell their house, they're gone. But we're talking about our families living there and enjoying the house and with energy efficiency savings."

"To the Bill."

"Could you bring… could you bring your remarks to a close."

"So, we've now had two (2) speak in favor and two (2) in response. Representative Durkin, you're recognized for five (5) minutes on what side?"

"Yes."

"Well, we said, this Act takes effect upon becoming law. But the Capital Development Board is going to work in 09500041.doc 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 creating standards and rules around this, and as with the Commercial Building Code that took a year, year and a half, so there's a lot of training and start-up time."

"That is correct."

"Well… I don't know… I don't know if this is a… I feel like I have a simplistic kind of answer to it, but at the time that a builder is using a Building Code, and right now we have a thousand (1,000) municipalities and a thousand (1,000) Building Codes, this would be a new State Building Code dealing with a few of these elements that have to do with energy efficiency, so at the time that the builder has to figure out what Building Codes he's using for the entire home, that's when this would become operative."

"I think you're raising an interesting point that has never come up before, but I certainly would be willing to talk to the Senate about changing… making some kind of a minimum baseline if you've done such and such, obtained a permit, then you would be exempted from this. But I'm suggesting to you that it really is going to be at least a year, year and a half before this thing takes effect."

"We've had three (3) in opposition. The rules will provide one additional proponent. Representative Munson. Would you like to speak in favor? Okay. You have five (5) minutes."

" And we've had now three (3) on each side, Representative Bost. Representative Bost we've… Representative Bost, for what reason do you rise?"

"So wh… we'll get a ruling here, Representative. The ruling, Representative Bost, and we'll just… Representative Bost."

"Representative, we can… we can do that. So why don't we proceed with some additional debate. Did you wish to speak, Representative Bost?"

"Representative Holbrook."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates she'll yield."

"Representative Hamos, when we've talked about this in committee, you agreed to adopt the Amendment that only allows to new… this affects new construction, isn't that correct?"

"Yes, yes."

"So additions, alterations, renovations, that sort of thing, aren't even affected by this, are they? Renovations, additions, they're not included in new construction." 09500041.doc 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"They're not included, no."

"Right. Nationally, how many states already have this exact same program?"

"Forty-two (42) states have adopted an Energy Efficient Building Code."

"Okay. With that said, people would still have options if they were buying a home, would they not? They could go to a home that's a not a new construction if they wanted to buy one that was less efficient or if they're renovating a home they wouldn't have to meet these standards. So, there is quite a bit of choice is there not?"

"That… that… that is correct."

"Okay. In this day of energy efficiency and the high cost of energy, I know where I've seen a lot… unfortunately I just bought a new house not long ago and I found out from talking to these salesmen at these new subdivisions, that people a lot of times just want to know what the monthly payment is, they don't care about the actual cost of the house. But I can tell you the one item that they all ask about is the energy efficiency standards, and in many cases to get these low prices low-balled onto the paper, they'll throw in a less efficient furnace, less efficient windows, and many times these people when they get in there, find out that they would like to make those changes. So forty-two (42) states thinks this is good idea with the price of energy and the way the climate in this world's going today, why would someone not want to do this?" 09500041.doc 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"Well, that's what I'm wondering, Representative Holbrook, because it seems like the exact appropriate public policy for our time. And when we say let's not go down this path, we are well behind other states, and further more, as a public policy, this is what our constituents would want us to do. We have only one chance to build the building right in the first place, and that is at the front end. And that's what this Bill would provide."

"Do not the Home… National Home Builders, not the state but the National Home Builders (sic-National Association of Home Builders) support this program?"

"I wouldn't go so far as to say they support it, but we did find some items that I read from, from their national Web site. So, for example, right here I'm looking at something from December and here's what the National Association of Home Builders says, 'Is it hard to build green? Is it a lot more expensive? Do I have to live in a straw-built cottage or some other strange building? No, no and most decidedly no', according to the National Association of Home Builders. They are, in fact, supporting these kind of initiatives and in forty-two (42) states, where they equally have some influence, they have recognized already that this is the best public policy for our time."

"Thank you. I think forty-two (42) states already have this in effect. I think we need to turn the corner here and start realizing what energy efficiency is needed in our state. The buyer still has the options, he doesn't have to buy new construction, he can renovate without meeting these standards. I think this is a good Bill and I'll be 09500041.doc 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 supporting it. And I think that's why it passed out of committee 20 to 2. Thank you."

"Representative Bost, the parliamentarian is prepared to make his ruling." Parliamentarian Ellis: Representative Bost, on behalf of the Speaker in response to your inquiry, House Bill 1842 preempts Home Rule powers on a subject on which the state is providing concurrent regulation. Therefore, under Article VII, Section 6(i) of the Illinois Constitution, the Bill requires 60 votes for passage."

"So, we're going to proceed with the debate, and we'll recognize Rep… Representative Bost, did you have… Okay."

"Representative Leitch."

"Indicates she'll yield."

"I have a… I have a map, Representative Leitch, and there are a hand full of states, I'm looking real quickly, about sev… eight (8) states that have adopted a code that meets or exceeds this Energy Efficiency… Commercial Code, and then there are different ones that have passed them over the 09500041.doc 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 years. And it is this particular code beginning… I'm looking at 1998 when states started adopting this code."

"All I know, Representative, they said it's a group out of Rolling Meadows and it's a group of experts, and they revise them periodically which is why this is kind of a rolling process for the forty-two (42) states, and they do that to come up with the new products that are available so they can make them available to the builders, and I know they work with architects and builders as well."

"I don't think I know that."

"Representative, the way the Bill is written, that is the case and I was willing to work with the homebuilders and I still am to fix the date at some point, like 2006. The 2006 code we learned is better than some of the previous codes. So, they've been working out, again working with builders 09500041.doc 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 and architects, but nobody ever came up with that as a proposal. The homebuilders did come to me a week ago with a different kind of proposal for ENERGY STAR, but we were not able to make that work. So, I was open to those kind of changes, but they were not really offered."

"Well, the only thing I can say here, Representative, is that these energy efficient building codes are created and again also for commercial, institutional, industrial, high- rises and now homes. They are created to help builders and the whole building community get it done, that is the whole point of this. So, there is no advantage whatsoever for the people who create these codes to come up with things that are egregious. You know, we have a thousand (1,000) municipalities. They all have building codes, but they're not trying make it difficult, they're trying to make it reasonable and sensible, and that's what this is as well. That's why a hundred and thirty (130) communities in Illinois have adopted this. Forty-two (42) states have as well."

"To the Bill."

"So, just for clarification. I moved this from extended to… from Standard Debate to Extended Debate which would allow five (5) speakers on each side. So the rules would provide one additional speaker in support. Representative Flider, would you like to speak in support and then we'll let Representative Hamos close. So, Representative Flider."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates she'll yield."

"Yes. Representative, are you aware of the practices that utilities have usage in order to reduce energy usage during the summer months when customers are using their air conditioners at peak loads? Are you aware of what they do to their rates in order to control demand?"

"Am I aware of what they do with their rates?"

"Yes. Do they increase them or decrease them? Are you aware of this?"

"Yeah, I think they probably increase the rates when it's really hot weather and people use their air conditioning."

"Well, they… they increase the rates because whenever you increase rates it's… it's the law of supply and demand 09500041.doc 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 in pricing that… by increasing rates that reduces demand considerably. So, you have a piece of legislation that seems somewhat moving in a more la… rational or commonsense direction in which we're trying to control our efficiency in future demand by actually investing in more efficient homes and weatherization. So, I guess my question, it's more of a commonsense question, if you'll indulge me. What makes more sense to you, to the consumer, increasing their prices in order to stop the next construction project and the investment in billions of dollars in generation or being more energy efficient? What makes more sense?"

"Well, thank you, Representative Flider, for stating it so eloquently or stating the dichotomy. It obviously makes more sense if we can reduce energy use, and that is something that our country has not paid as much attention to. But I believe as me move forward and we see electric prices increase, as we see the prospects of foreign dependence… more and more foreign dependence on oil, as we see issues with climate change, there will be more of an effort to think about energy efficiency. This just moves Illinois into the large majority of states that are doing this exact thing and you're pointing out exactly that dichotomy."

"So really, what we're talking about doing here is, in the long run, saving billions of dollars in investment in generation. And to your point of about reducing our dependence on foreign oil, this is not the first time that governments have tried to induce efficiency into the process, is it not? I mean, each automobile that we drive 09500041.doc 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 has certain kind of standards. Isn't that correct? The… the… actually the furnaces and the air conditioners that people buy, those… they have government-induced efficiency standards, isn't that correct?"

"That is correct."

"So, really what we're talking about here is, in the long run, trying to… trying to forestall billions of dollars in investment that would be necessary due to the use of energy at a high cost when utilities have gone to the Illinois Commerce Commission and said we want to increase our prices to stop people from using power. That just doesn't make a whole lot of sense when you think about it, so it's been costing consumers an awful lot of money in order to control demand in the future. And then when you look at the future investment of generation, you have to ask yourself the question, who's going to be investing in this? You know, we don't see generators building base-load power plants anymore. We see them investing in peaker units, jet engine peaker units, natural gas peaker units. The price of electricity is high, the price of natural gas is high. And what are we… instead of base-load units, we're investing in these peakers. That doesn't make a lot of sense. And then when we do talk about some kind of base-load units like FutureGen, our communities are doing cartwheels trying to get the Federal Government and the State Government to invest in those kinds of facilities because nobody else is going to build them. So we as taxpayers, we as the government, it's the State and the Federal Government who's going to be investing in this because of our current energy 09500041.doc 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 policy in Illinois. So, this is really a move in the right direction to save money by being efficient, and if we're all more efficient, that's going to forestall the investment that's going to be needed in power plants which will cost billions and billions of dollars to build if we're not efficient and if we're not careful. Thank you. And I'd urge an 'aye' vote on your legislation."

"Under the Rules of Extended Debate, now we've had five (5) speak in support and five (5) in opposition. And Representative Hamos, you're recognized to close."

"Thank you. Ladies and Gentlemen, I appreciate this very thoughtful debate. I especially appreciate the previous speaker who pulled together a couple of strands in what we are doing as a state right now in thinking about energy policy and that's what this Bill really frames for us and… and focuses on. This is about really good sensible energy policy. Energy efficiency is the quickest and least expensive way to reduce our reliance on energy. It is inexpensive to include it in the construction of new homes, not later on for rehab, but if we build the building right in the first place, we have a chance at real savings to help our constituents with reduced heating and cooling bills. And I would really strongly appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"And the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 74 voting 'yes' and 38 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a 09500041.doc 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Hoffman, you have House Bill 1930. Out of the record. Representative Howard, you have House Bill 3627. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Howard."

"House Bill 3627 creates the Charitable Trust Stabilization Fund and for the purpose of making grants to public and private entities for certain purposes. The Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity had a slight problem with it because they maintain that it's going to cost them money that I did not provide for, but they have agreed that if I'm able to get this into the Senate, that we can all work with the Senate in making that change."

"The Lady has moved for the…"

"I'll take…"

"Okay. The Lady has moved for the passage of House Bill 3627. This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Cultra, do you wish to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 104 voting 'yes' and 7 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Joyce, you have House Bill 1839. 09500041.doc 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 Representative Krause, you have House Bill 2973. Representative Krause, 2973. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Krause."

"This is on the Order of Short Debate. And in response, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Scully."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of this legislation and I want to thank Representative Krause for the work she's done as the Minority spokesperson on the Electric Utility Oversight Committee. I also want to commend her for the sponsorship of this legislation. It does help us achieve a more energy efficient state and reduce our 09500041.doc 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 reliance on these… these alternative sources of electricity. Thank you."

"Any further discussion? Then the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Beaubien, Brady, Cole, Smith, do you wish to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 111 voting 'yes' and 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 1839."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Joyce."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 1839 will change the School Code Waiver Law. Currently, schools can apply for a five (5)-year wavier and there is no limit to the number of waivers that they can renew… number of times they can renew that. 1839 will change that to (2) two years and limit the number of renewals to two (2) times. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Cultra and Sommer, do you wish to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 104 voting 'yes' and 8 09500041.doc 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Lyons, you have House Bill 2304. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Lyons."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 2304 is almost identical to House Bill 4161 which I ran through the House last year in the 94th General Assembly. Basically, there's some property on the northwest side of Chicago, it's in my district and Representative McAuliffe's district. This used to house the Dunning State Mental Facility back when we were in the industrial institutional housing of our mentally disabled. And part of that property's been parceled off for the last twenty, twenty-five (20,25) years and there's a certain parcel left that is adjoined by Wright College and the abandoned Horner School which was there for many years. It's been vacant for the last twenty (20) years. This allows the City of Chicago and Chicago Park District on a quit claim to go there and to make some proposals for use, keeping it public use in the possible form of a park district complex where they have a agricultural high school similar to which is on the south side of Chicago or an adjacent part to expanding Wright College. It takes the person who had some objections to this a year ago, a joint venture group that was going to develop some of the light industrial part of this property, out of the equation. They 09500041.doc 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 were opposed to it last year. I've been informed from Senator DeLeo who held this up last year in the Senate that they're now neutral on the Bill and would have no objection. But it is still somewhat controversial in the neighborhood. There are some people concerned about what exactly… exact details'll be… and involved in… the ultimate plan will be, but at least it lets the city have the green light to try to do something to keep this area green and of course, in public… public use. So I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"This is on the Order of Short Debate. And in response, the Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black."

"He indicates he'll yield."

"Representative, the parts that were sold at fair market value were done piecemeal over the last twenty- some years, long before I was a State Representative, so things were done… developed in different ways on this property. Wright College actually got part of it. I don't know how exactly that process happened. They got a parcel… this is about two hundred (200) acres of property, Representative Black. And there was a development group that was given an exclusive to further develop a light industrial park there that through 09500041.doc 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 legislation we passed here in the year 2000 gave them an exclusive to develop the property, never take title to it, but to develop it to light manufacturing. That has not been done for the last six (6) or seven (7) years. So, the local alderman, Alderman Tom Allen wants to see an extension of this property used for public purposes, which was the original intent of the Dunning family who this is named after. It was given to the state a hundred 100 years ago. So the fair market value issue was just a… once this was developed the state was to be reimbursed in light of the fact that this is going to be continued to be used for public purposes, a possible agricultural high school, a possible park, a possible extension of Wright College. This would be done on a quitclaim process to the City of Chicago and/or the park district. I hope this explains, Bill, what you're…"

"Representative, that's not my understanding of the Bill. The understanding of that Bill that was passed in 2000-2001, was to give somebody exclusive for the purpose of developing. They never took possession of it, 09500041.doc 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 Representative. If they had the Black and Lyons Company come in to develop it for some type of light industry, once they would negotiate the deal, then the fair market value would come from you and I as the developers. They never took the possession of it. They were the ones who were opposed to this last year and why it was held up in the Senate and now my understanding is that they're agreeable to not litigate any decision that we would make here and they're in favor of the Bill which was the concern in the Senate. So, I think there's a misconception when we talked about this Bill in committee and even prior to reintroducing the Amendment that does what I'm trying to do here. My best understanding, there was never any deeds given to the joint venture group that tried to develop this, there was only agreement to once somebody agrees to take the property, then the fair market value would be reimbursed to the state."

"Representative, according to my staff, they are not. And… we talked about this in committee I believe when it came up that, ya know, this was never transferred from the state to this developer. They only had the exclusive rights to develop it." 09500041.doc 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"Pardon me, what…"

"Yeah, Eli's Cheesecake is part of this. Oh yeah, there's all kinds of development on this property, Representative. Eli's Cheesecake was one of the anchors in the industrial park there. The Chicago Tubular, there's some light manufacturing. They did this in different phases. New Horizons has a beautiful complex for children with disability. There's a Senior Suites, a senior citizen facility built there, a shopping center up on the north… on Irving Park and Narragansett, you know, that…"

"So, Representative Black, your time has time has expired. One… we're going to move this to Short Debate, perhaps someone would yield you five (5) additional minutes. Representative Eddy, would you like to do that?"

"'Cause it seems like you're… you still got some questions. So Representative Black is recognized for (5) five minutes."

"All I can tell you, Representative, from my experience, it's a parcel of the property that was adjacent to this light manufacturing area that has been developed that has never been further developed. They were given an exclusive on this for five (5) or six (6) years, nothing has been deemed a worthy proposal for the use of this development for this property, and so it's gone nowhere. And the alderman there, who's initiated part of this, says there's a plan to try to do something with this along public lines. Again, things that I have explained previously…"

"…I don't want to eat up your time…"

"…on these questions."

"Well, the original Dunning property, Representative, is probably two hundred, two hundred and twenty (200-220) acres of property."

"We're talking about forty (40) acres. There's about (40) forty acres east of Oak Park Avenue which is in my 09500041.doc 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 district, the other side is in Michael McAuliffe's district and it's all Senator DeLeo's district."

"Representative, they have not contacted me but they contacted Senator DeLeo who stopped the Bill last year in the Senate. He had an issue about what you're speaking of and now the joint venture group which has developed numerous properties, from my understanding…"

"…has agreed to not litigate this thing, not to get in the way of this legally…"

"…and have some kind of exclusive parcel on other property somewhere in Chicago."

"I don't access to that information, Representative."

"I… I don't, but I'm sure… you know, it's Chicago real estate. It's… it's, you know, worth… you could build… there's condominiums built on other parcels here…"

"…there's unlimited…"

"…what things can be done here?"

"I think the important thing also to understand here, Representative, is there's a large abandoned school property in this thing also, the Horner School which used to be a developmentally disabled school that's been sitting idle for probably close to thirty (30) years now. It's boarded up, CMS goes out there and tries to maintain it. It's a nightmare of an issue in the district as far as it's…"

"…boarded up. We have fly dumping we got…"

"…all kinds of problems…"

"…standing water, I mean…"

"Well, that's a possibility, yes."

"Representative McAuliffe."

"He indicates he'll yield."

"Michael, if I understand your question right about… when we passed this what, back in 2000, an exclusive right was given to try to develop this to continue what was going on by Eli's and Chicago Tubular and in the last five(5)or six (6) years not… no proposal has come forward that has met the criteria of the local community, particularly Alderman Allen, who's 38th Ward this is. Was that the question? And as I…"

"To the Bill." 09500041.doc 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"Representative Lyons to close."

"I can't improve upon my… Representative McAuliffe's fine closing for me. And this… all I can tell you folks, I mean, if there are questions to be answered I'd like to move this over to the Senate. If there are some legal questions that could be clarified, I'd be happy to work with Senator DeLeo to make sure the Senate staff could satisfy any questions that aren't crystal clear, but I'd… certainly on behalf of my neighborhood, I'd appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. 09500041.doc 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Mautino, do you wish to be recorded? Representative Mautino. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'yes' and 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Brady, for what reason do you rise?"

"State your point."

"Representative Mendoza, you have House Bill 1900. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Mendoza."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 1900 is a Bill that would require the… I should say, would give the opportunity to the family members of a victim of a DUI crash, a DUI accident where the victims are deceased to be able to place a roadside marker memorializing the life of their loved one, but at the same time asking those who are transiting the highways to please not drink and drive. The roadside maker would say, 'Please do not drink and drive in memory of the name of the 09500041.doc 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 individual who was the victim of a DUI crash and the date that they died.' This came as a result of Tina Ball who was a very high profile case of a construction worker who was killed by a DUI driver and I think it's a really great way to be able to honor the victims of these crashes, give a little bit of closure and a little bit better feeling to their family members. Would eliminate also or hopefully discourage people from putting little makeshift road markers on the sides of the roads and just keep a uniform presence along our Illinois highways and at the same time, send a strong message to please not drink and drive because the result of drinking and driving oftentimes leads to deaths, too often in Illinois and other states. And we just look for your support and we'll be happy to answer any questions. Thank you."

"We're going to move this to the Order of Standard Debate to recognize some of our Members. And Representative Black, you're recognized for (5) five minutes."

"She indicates she'll yield."

"No, they're in favor of it."

"Yeah." 09500041.doc 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"They're… they're in favor of it."

"From… yes, but thank you."

"But it gives you the job, which is always a good thing you know."

"We're all about employment opportunities."

"That's exactly correct."

"That's correct."

"We need to make sure everyone's in support of it in the family."

"For two (2) years." 09500041.doc 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"Yeah. Unfortunately, this particular piece of legislation only deals with DUI…"

"…victims…"

"…but that's something we can entertain for future…"

"Thank you."

"Thank you."

"Mmm mmm."

"Thank you, Representative."

Speaker Hannig: "The Gentleman from McLean, Representative Brady."

"Indicates she'll yield."

"Correct." 09500041.doc 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"The Department of Transportation. They're the ones who would determine whether or not to approve the application and the application would be filled out by a member of the family of the victim. But all members of… there could be no objection from a different family member to the marker or otherwise it won't be approved. So there has to be a full consensus if that's what the family wants, no opposition to it. And then depending on where the sign would go to the best judgment of IDOT would be whether or not they agree to approve the sign."

"Yeah. Keep going."

"My indication… well first of all, I don't think we stipulated that in the actual language of the Bill."

"But the language of the Bill says is that if your family member was a victim of a DUI-related accident, then at that point I'm assuming that there would be you know, police records or something indicating that the driver was… Oh okay, I'm sorry. A certified copy of the guilty plea, a verdict, or a finding by a judge, in the DUI-court case against the person who engaged in the DUI that resulted in 09500041.doc 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 the person's loss of life. So it's part of the application. It's not in the law, but the law says that as part of the application there would need to be that finding in order for the application to be approved."

"I'll repeat it."

"I'll repeat it. It would be a cert…"

"…a certified copy of the guilty plea. This would have to be part of the application. A verdict or a finding made by a judge in the DUI-court case against the person who engaged in the driving under the influence that resulted in the loss of the decedent's life."

"So, it would be clearly a victim of a DUI."

"No problem, thanks."

"It's state highways. And the… IDOT is commissioned to work with local municipalities and any other person or government unit that might have an interest in making sure that those signs go up in the right location and aren't infringing upon any one else's rights."

"The family pays for now, but we've actually considered coming back later on and amending this or creating a new Bill that would create a fund that would be paid for by actual DUI offenders that would help pay for these signs in the future."

"Roughly…"

"…the department has estimated about a hundred and twenty dollars ($120.00) or so…"

"…but they're only going to charge whatever the cost of the sign would be."

"For two (2) years, Representative."

"Thank you."

"Representative Ramey."

"She indicates she'll yield."

"Let me find that for ya. I don't remember off the top of my mind. Let me see… Um okay. I don't… you know what… now that I think about it, I don't think we have the actual measurements in here. The department would be responsible for coming up with a model of the sign. What it would, 09500041.doc 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 though… what we have in the Bill is what it would what would go on the actual sign."

"Yeah. They're going to be same…"

"They would… one size for, ya know, all."

"Roughly, their estimate was about a hundred and twenty to a hundred twenty-five dollars ($120-$125). It could be more or less, but it would only be for the actual cost and maintenance of the program."

"Well, we don't have a fund created for that, but I anticipate doing that next and actually working with you on that because we should not only create a fund, but make sure it's a fund that the Governor cannot sweep and that is paid for by the DUI offenders."

"Oh, you should be on. So, I'll make sure you're on right now. Thank you."

"Representative Mendoza to close."

"Well, thank you very much for your attention. And would ask for your support. Thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass." All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all 09500041.doc 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'yes', and 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Turner, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'd like at this time if you would recognize our guests here from the Chicago International Trade Commissioners Association. And I'm going to try to briefly run through their names; we have about fifteen (15) people here. Cor Hersbach who's the Consul General from the Netherlands, Enrique Alejo who's with the Trade Commission of Spain, Kanya Amornteerakul who's with the Thai Trade Center, Noa Asher with the Government of Israel Daniel Bangser who's with the Consul General of Switzerland, Vladyslav Dovhopiat who's with the Trade Commission of the Ukraine, Asad Hayauddin who's with the Pakistan Trade and Commerce, Lucyna Jaremczuk who's with the Consul General of Poland, Tadas Kubillus who's with the Consul General of Lithuania, Martine Leclercq who's with the Wallonia Trade and Economic Consul, Charles Manuel who's with the South African Consul General, Endang Mardeyani who's with the Consul General for the Republic of Indonesia, Miklos Kovacs who's with the Hungarian Investment & Trade Development Agency, Glenn Penaranda who's with the Philippine Consul General, Claude Stomp with the Flaunders Investment and Trade, K. Sukomaran with the Malaysian Industrial Development, and Richard Tam who's with the Hong Kong Trade Development Consul. They're in the gallery behind me. Let's 09500041.doc 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 give them a State of Illinois welcome. Welcome to Illinois, gang."

"Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 1775."

"Representative Bradley." Bradley, J.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a Bill proposed by the Health Care Association, supported by AARP. I don't know of any opposition to it. It increases the requirements for a director of an assisted living nursing home from one (1) to two (2) years and increases the continuing education from sixteen (16) to twenty (20) hours. I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand response? Then the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Repr… Okay. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'yes' and 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Mitchell, Bill Mitchell, on House Bill 306. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

Speaker Hannig: "The Gentleman from Macon, Representative Mitchell." Mitchell, B.: "Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 306 makes unauthorized 09500041.doc 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 video recording and live video transmissions of tanning beds or tan… in tanning salons a Class IV felony rather than a Class A misdemeanor. This is a situation that happened in Decatur. A lady was videotaped against her will as she was tanning and got a real slap on the wrist or the perp… who did that, just got a slap on the wrist and she was upset about it and asked me to file this legislation."

"This is on the Order of Short Debate. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Fritchey."

"Thank you, Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he'll yield."

"Would this apply to all unauthorized videotaping now? There was recently a case that made a lot of headlines involving a school district where there was some activity that was allegedly videotaped without authorization. Would this apply to that?" Mitchell, B.: "This is just narrow; it applies to tanning beds and tanning salons."

"Why would we not want to… my understanding is that videotaping is not covered in eavesdropping? Why wouldn't we want to take this protection of privacy and expand it to all situations?" Mitchell, B.: "Well, if you'd like to, certainly you'd be more than willing to do this. This was just a very narrow situation that happened in my legislative district dealing with tanning and so I made it really a… crafted it very narrowly."

"Okay. Thank you." 09500041.doc 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"Representative Scully."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he'll yield."

"Representative, are you familiar with the eavesdropping statute in the Criminal Code?" Mitchell, B.: "I am not."

"It's my understanding that the eavesdropping statute…" Mitchell, B.: "I beg your pardon?"

"It's my understanding that the eavesdropping statute specifically prohibits any type of audio or visual recording of a person without their permission." Mitchell, B.: "That could be. That's the first I've heard of it, Representative Scully."

"Are you concerned about passing duplicative legislation? Passing a statute to make something criminal that is already criminals…" Mitchell, B.: "You know in drafting this Bill, Representative, I was not made aware of that, so it's hard for me to comment on it. Our staff, when I went to them with this problem, had not discussed that with me so it's… I'm a little bit of a loss to answer… I'm not familiar with the eavesdropping statute and how it would be applicable or not applicable to this situation."

"We do under…" Mitchell, B.: "Representative Scully, this was already in statute in terms of it being a misdemeanor and we're just making it a Class IV felony. The person who was a victim of this crime… the person… the criminal who did this, in her opinion, didn't get… got off with no jail time, got off with 09500041.doc 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 a slap on the wrist. And the young lady who was the victim viewed this as not being a… not being appropriate to the crime."

"Is this an Amendment to the eavesdropping statute?" Mitchell, B.: "I beg your pardon, Representative Scully. I couldn't hear you."

"Is this an Amendment to the eavesdropping statute?" Mitchell, B.: "No."

"Okay. Thank you." Mitchell, B.: "Thank you, Representative."

"Representative Bost."

"Indicates he'll yield."

"Representative Mitchell to close." Mitchell, B.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a… this woman who had this happen to her felt she said that this was similar to her being violated. With the advent of technology, people have these newfangled cameras where you can videotape without a person's consent, but we think that this is appropriate to the offense in terms of making it a Class IV misdemeanor… excuse me, a Class IV felony. And I would appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass'? All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'yes' and 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Nekritz, you have House Bill 680. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 680 establishes a panel to study the feasibility of a biological monitoring program in our state. 09500041.doc 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 Biological monitoring is the direct measure of chemicals in the human body. This legislation calls for a report to be prepared by the University of Illinois in Chicago, the Great Lakes Center for Occupational Environmental Safety and Health that will recommend activities and estimate the cost of establishing an Illinois Environmental Contaminant Biomonitoring Program. Currently, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention conducts a nationwide biomonitoring program, but it only tests about two thousand (2000) people a year across the nation. The CDC encourages states to adopt their own programs. A statewide biomonitoring program will help provide data that will help scientists, researchers, public health experts and community members explore linkages between chemical exposures and health concerns. The Illinois EPA and the Department of Public Health will establish a scientific guidance panel composed of eleven (11) members who will meet to provide guidance to the UIC, make recommendations regarding the design and implementation of a biomonitoring program and recommend chemicals that are priorities for biomonitoring. There was some opposition to this Bill in committee. We have worked that out with the Chemical Industry Consul and this is now an agreed Bill. Or I guess there's no opposi..."

"This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'yes' and 0 09500041.doc 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Phelps, you have House Bill 1847. Representative Phelps. Out of the record. Representative Pritchard, you have House Bill 3597. Representative Pritchard. 3597. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Pritchard."

"This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, 'Shall this 09500041.doc 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Repre… Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 114 voting 'yes' and 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Reis, you have House Bill 3289. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Reis."

"This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'yes' and 1 09500041.doc 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Rita, do wish us to call House Bill 855? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Rita."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 855 requires any parolee that has been required to participate in a community based sanctioned program as an alternative to reincarceration due to a technical parole violation to serve the full term of their parole. This Bill would apply… the amount of time that the parolee was absent without leave to the end of the parole term, thereby ensuring that the proper amount of time that was put on the parolee was to be served. There's no known opposition to this legislation and there's no fiscal impact on the Department of Corrections. Be happy to answer any questions."

"This in on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Brady, do you wish to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'yes' and 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having 1 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared 09500041.doc 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 passed. Representative Currie, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Speaker. I had intended to vote 'no' on House Bill 3289 and I would hope the record would so reflect."

Speaker Hannig: "The record will reflect your intentions, Representative. Representative Smith, you have House Bill 1998. Would you like us to read that Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Smith."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. This is legislation addressing the issue of missing sex offenders, and would require the Department of State Police to develop a separate database or a designation on their database listing all of those sex offenders who are currently unidentified or missing. They currently have that designation on their Web site, but this would compile those in one list and make them available for the public, and obviously, the intent is to make that information available to the public and to seek their support and assistance to law enforcement in helping to find the whereabouts of these missing sex offenders. I know of no opposition to the Bill. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted 09500041.doc 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Durkin, Howard, Reis. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 114 voting 'yes' and 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Sommer on House Bill 1878. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. 1878… 76, excuse me."

"Representative Sommer."

"This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Leitch, McAuliffe, Rita, do you wish to be recorded? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 114 voting 'yes' and 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Turner on House Bill 1380. Out of the record. Representative Verschoore on 09500041.doc 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 House Bill 410. Representative Fritchey, I'm advised that… Mr. Clerk, what's the status of House Bill 8?"

"Representative, I'm advised you want to move this back to Second?"

"Speaker, I'd like to move this back to Second for the purpose of making a Motion to Table."

"Okay. So Mr. Clerk, move this back to the Order of Second Reading. And Representative Fritchey's recognized on a Motion to Table."

"Thank you, Speaker. My apologies for the delay to the Body. Simply put, I made an error in adding Amendments onto this Bill. It is my desire right now to table Amendment #2."

"Gentleman moves to table Amendment #2. Is there leave to use the Attendance Roll Call? Leave is granted, the Motion is adopted and the Amendment is tabled. Is there any further Amendments?"

"Do you want to move this to Third?"

"Inquiry of the Chair. In letting the Motion to Table Amendment 3 which was previously adopted would now be in order, is that correct?"

"Sorry, could you repeat your question?"

"We had adopted Amendment 2 then we had adopted Amendment 3. We moved the Bill to Third. We just moved it back. I've tabled Amendment 2. It would be my understanding that procedurally Amendment 3 would be in 09500041.doc 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 order, and so if we move this Bill to Third Reading it would be moved to Third Reading as amended by Amendment 3."

"Mr. Clerk, are there any other Amendments pending?"

"So 2… So, I'm advised by the parliamentarian that Amendment #3 now is in order, Representative and adopted."

"Okay. Thank you. In that case I'd like to move it to Third Reading, Speaker. Thank you."

"Okay. So…"

"Thank you, Tim."

"…so Mr. Clerk, Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, let's read House Bill 1470."

"The Gentleman from Rock Island, Representative Verschoore."

"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to move the Bill back to Second for a possible Amendment."

"Okay. So, we're going to return this to the Order of Second Reading at the request of the Sponsor. And Representative Verschoore, shall we read House Bill 410?"

"Mr. Speaker, 410 was the one I wanted to move back. 1470 I want to move forward on."

"So… so, on 410 let's move that to the Order of Second Reading at the request of the Sponsor. And now, Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 1470." 09500041.doc 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"I want… I want… Mr. Speaker, I want to take this one out of the record for a min… for the time being also."

"We have moved it back to Second Reading, I think in error, Representative, but we could move it to Third. It's been read a second time…"

"Four… 1470 I want to take out of the record, 410 I want to move back to Second."

"So, out of the record at the request of the Sponsor. Representative Crespo, I'm advised you wish us to read House Bill 1434? So, is that correct?"

"For purposes of… to table Amendment #1."

"Okay. So, let's re…"

"And adopt…"

"So let's return…"

"…Amendment #2."

Speaker Hannig: "Let's return that to the Order of Second Reading. And now the Gentleman… is there a Motion to Table Mr. Clerk? Okay. So, what Amendments… what Amendments are pending, Mr. Clerk?"

"So what is your pleasure on Amendment #1, Representative?"

"We want to table Amendment #1."

"Okay. So, we'll actually withdraw Amendment #1. Is there any further Amendments?"

"Representative Crespo on the Amendment." 09500041.doc 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"And Amendment #2 basically allows a four-year state colleges, gives them the refuse… the right of first refusal."

"Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Gentleman's Motion to adopt say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Am I… and I'm… I am advised, Mr. Clerk, that Representative Phelps wishes to move House Bill 1847, 1847, from Third Reading to Second. So that'll be on Second Reading, Mr. Clerk. We're going to… we're going to go to the Order of Second Reading for a while. And so, Representative… Representative Arroyo, you have House Bill 3434. Out of record. Okay. Representative Beiser on 894. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Representative Brosnahan, you have House Bill 1798. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Brosnahan."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd move to adopt Floor Amendment #1. This Amendment removes the language dealing 09500041.doc 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 with the contributory negligence of a beneficiary in a wrongful death suit. The Amendment removes the opposition with the Illinois Insurance Association and the Property Casualties Insurance Association of America. These groups are now neutral on this Bill. And I'd ask that it be adopted."

"Is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black on the Amendment."

"Indicates he'll yield."

"The substance of the Bill that it would only allow juries to award damages for grief, sorrow, and mental suffering in a wrongful death action. It would not have anything to do with contributory negligence, so it takes that part that involve contributory negligence totally out of the equation and that's why the insurance industry is now neutral on the Bill."

"It's grief, sorrow… it just adds grief and suffering. A loss to society is already something that a jury can award. This just allows grief and suffering to be considered by the jury."

"Representative, grief and sorrow and all those, those are all noneconomical damages anyway. This does nothing to affect the cap on noneconomic damages. The cap will remain the same. This is not a way around the cap. This is just simply a way for the jury to consider the grief and suffering of an aggrieved party. Right now, they can consider loss to society, this just allows them to consider grief and suffering, as well. But it does nothing… it does not affect the cap in any way."

"Representative Black, I'm not sure if maybe this is something we should talk about on Third Reading. To me, that does not really deal with the Amendment. The Amendment just takes out the language from… about contributory negligence, so I'd be more than happy to answer question, but I think maybe that's something we could talk about on Third Reading."

"That's right."

"Well… I… I guess they would just have to listen to the evidence that's presented and make an informed decision as a group. And that's how they would do it."

"Does it break the agreement? No."

"Any further discussion? All in favor of the Amendment say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Okay. So, Representative Brosnahan, did you hear the Clerk? There's been some note requests, so the Bill has to remain on Second Reading. Representative Burke, you have House Bill 1478. Would you like us to read that on Second? Okay. Out of the record at the request of the Sponsor. Representative Beaubien, you have House Bill 1622. Out of the record. Representative Black on House Bill 587. On Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Black on the Amendment."

"Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say… Oh, excuse me, Representative McCarthy on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he'll yield."

"Representative, does the Bill address the course work that would be missed on the day of the election? Whose responsibility is it to either make it up or make it available to be made up? Like if a test is given that day, does it say that the professor would have to redo the test later?"

"Okay. But the legislation itself does not at this time say that it's automatically an excused absence?"

"Okay. Thank you."

"Any further discussion? Then all in favor… all in favor of the Amendment say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Representative Chapa LaVia on 1977. Do you wish us to read that on Third? Out of the record. Representative Coladipietro on House Bill 3767. Do you wish us to read that on Third? Out of the record. Representative D'Amico on House Bill 2749. Okay. Out of the record. Representative Eddy on House Bill 261. Mr. Clerk read the Bill."

"Representative Eddy."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of the Amendment. Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Representative Flider on House Bill 736. Do you wish us to read it? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Flider."

"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Amendment #1 clarifies language in the underlying Bill regarding ex parte communications and due process. And I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Gentleman's Motion say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Representative Ford, you have House Bill 136l. Do you wish us to read that Bill? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Ford on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Amendment #1 simply provides that the licensee acting as a real estate broker escrowee will be able to transfer the money to the Treasurer's Office if six (6) months has elapsed and the buyer or seller or any principal to the party authorized the release. Thank you."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Amendment. Any… Is there any discussion? Then all in favor say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. And Representative Ford, you have House Bill 3602. You wish us to read that? Okay. Out of the record. Representative Golar on House Bill 1398. Out of the record. Representative Graham on House Bill 415. You wish us to read that on Second? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Graham."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Floor Amendment #1 limits the insurance to the state level if the person… the family member is interested in the insurance… it's only per request only. There's no opposition to the Bill." 09500041.doc 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"On the Amendment is there any discussion? Then all in favor say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Representative Granberg on House Bill 161. Out of the record. Representative Hamos on House Bill 742. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

Speaker Hannig: "Representative Fritchey. Representative Fritchey on the Amendment. I'm advised there's three Amendments. Representative Fritchey has Amendment #1. So, this is Amendment #1, 2 is still in Rules and Representative Hamos has Amendment #3. So, Representative Fritchey, what's your pleasure?"

"We'd like to table Amendment Speaker."

"Draw… withdraw Amendment #1."

"Thank you."

"Are there any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"Representative Hamos."

"Thank you. Ladies and Gentlemen, Amendment #3 basically takes the Whistleblower Act which applies to local governments and local school districts and puts it back into the same position as the underlying Bill. It supersedes 09500041.doc 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 what the… the Amendment that was just tabled. And we will debate it on the Third Reading. Thank you."

"Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Representative Harris on House Bill 3490. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Representative Jakobsson, on House Bill 1453. Representative Jakobsson do you wish us to read 1453? Okay. Out of the record. Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 161."

"Representative Lyons."

"Thank you, Speaker. Amendment #2 simply adds the right to paratroopers. It's a Bill I've tried to run for five (5)or (6) six years. Gives paratroopers the right to get a license plate made in their honor."

"Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say 'ayes'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?" 09500041.doc 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"Third Reading. Representative Jakobsson, you have House Bill 682. 682. You wish us to read that? Okay. Out of the record. Representative Jefferies on House Bill 2734. You wish us to read that Bill on Second? On Second? Out of the record. Representative Jefferson on House Bill 1719. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Mr. Jefferson, do you wish us to read 1141? 1141. We just moved 1719. Now, do you wish us to read 1141? Out of the record. Okay. Out of the record. Representative Mautino on House Bill 1628. Out of the record. Representative… Representative Mc… Oh, I'm sorry. Mr. Clerk, return to House Bill 1628 and read the Bill."

"Representative Mautino."

"Thank you, Speaker. Floor Amendment 1 takes out the provisions in 1628 which would have removed the copay requirements in the All Kids Program. This has been done in discussion with the departments. It's an initiative which came from the Med Society on the Bill itself. And these 09500041.doc 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 languages were done by agreement, so I'd ask that that gets placed into the Bill. And ask for its adoption."

"Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Gentleman's Motion to adopt the Amendment say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Representative Lindner, you have House Bill 3678. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Lindner."

"Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Lady's Amendment say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

Speaker Hannig: "Third Reading. Representative McCarthy, on House Bill 2632. You wish us to read that Bill? Mr. Clerk, has there been Amendments approved on House Bill 2632?" 09500041.doc 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"So out of the record at the request of the Sponsor. Representative Nekritz, you have House Bill 1421. On Second Reading. Should we read the Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #2 is an Amendment that was discussed in committee moving some dates to be consistent with a report that was issued by the EPA on these flame retardants."

"Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Okay. So this… did you hear that? They'll be… there's some requests for notes, Representative Nekritz. Representative Osterman, you have House Bill 1805. You wish us to read that? On Second. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"So, on Amendment #1, Representative Osterman."

"Amendment #1 becomes the Bill and it sets up a pilot program dealing with lead paint poisoning. Ask that it be amended."

"So there's two Amend…"

"Or adopted."

"…there's two Amendments. You wish us to adopt both of them?"

"I'd like to adopt Amendment #1 and 2."

"Okay. So, is there any discussion on Amendment #1? Then all in favor say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Representative Osterman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #2 just specifies the number of pilots is two (2) in this legislation. I'd ask the Amendment… be adop… amended… adopted."

"Is there any discussion? Then all in favor or the Amendment say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it The Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Representative Phelps, you have House Bill 825. Okay. Out of the record. Representative Sommer on House Bill 1875. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Representative Tryon, you have House Bill 3728. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"So, on Floor Amendment #1, Representative."

"Okay. So, Floor Amendment #1 is withdrawn. Mr. Clerk, are there further Amendments?"

"Representative Tryon."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Amendment. Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of 09500041.doc 90  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 the Amendment say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Representative Watson, you have House Bill 1253. Clerk, read the Bill."

Speaker Hannig: "The Gentleman from Morgan, Representative Watson."

"Any discussion? Then all in favor of the Gentleman's Amendment say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. And Representative Watson, you also have House Bill 3014. Shall we read that? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. 3014."

"Representative Watson."

"Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Representative Phelps, did you wish us to read House Bill 825? Okay. So, out of the record. Representative Flowers, do wish us to read House Bill 1335? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Amendment #2 would make this Bill only apply to Chicago. And I move for this adoption."

"Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Representative Joyce, on House Bill 511. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Representative… Representative Collins on House Bill 1517. Do you wish us to read that? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Collins."

"Yes. I would like to adopt Amendment #1 to House Bill 1517."

Speaker Hannig: "The Lady moves for the adoption of the Amendment. Is there any discussion? Then all in favor say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Repres… Representative Arroyo on House Bill 3434. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third… Third Reading. We'll return to the Order of Third Reading. Representative… Representative Collins, you have House Bill 1050. Do you wish us to read that Bill? Representative Collins. You wish us to read 09500041.doc 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 House Bill 1050 on Third Reading? Mr… Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

Speaker Hannig: "The Lady from Cook, Rep… Representative Collins. You wish… Representative, this is on Third Reading. You need to present the Bill. No? So, out of the record? Okay. Representative Dugan, you have House Bill 1519. Do you wish us to read that on Third? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Dugan."

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 1519 addresses an issue in my district for the Village of Manteno, and what it does is just extend an existing TIF til the 23rd year. It's just to extend it, I think it's twelve (12) years. And I do have letters from all of the taxing bodies in that district in support of extending of the TIF in Manteno. And so I'll certainly be happy to answer any questions and would like an 'aye' vote."

"This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Lindner, do you wish to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'yes' and 3 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is 09500041.doc 94  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 hereby declared passed. Representative Flider, you have House Bill 1514. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Flider."

"Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill is very similar to the previous Bill. It extends the TIF district in the Village of Mt. Zion from twenty-three (23) to thirty-five (35) years. We have letters on file from all the affected taxing districts. I know of no opposition. I'd ask for your support."

"This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'yes' and 4 voted 'no'… voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Rep… Representative Hernandez, do you wish us to read House Bill 1072? Representative Hernandez. You wish us to read 1072? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Hernandez."

"Thank you, Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is a Bill that aims to improve health care quality for limited and non-English speakers by amending the Language Assistance Services Act. The Bill would require 09500041.doc 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 for health Bills… health… health facilities to adopt a policy for providing language assistance services to patients with language or communication barriers and review it annually. Inform patients and their families of language access services at facilities by posting notices informing of the availability of interpreters. The procedure for obtaining an interpreter and the telephone numbers to call for filing complaints concerning interpreter service problems. Inform staff of the existing language access services at their facility and how to make these language services available for patients. These changes will improve health care access and quality for the growing, limited and non-English speaking population in Illinois. And I urge your 'aye' vote."

"This is on the Order of Short Debate. Does anyone stand in response? Then the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Saviano, do you wish to be recorded? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 114 voting 'yes' and 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Hoffman on House Bill 2133. The Gentleman… Representative Hoffman. All right. Out of the record. Representative Jefferson on House Bill 3428. You wish us to read that? No? Yes, okay. So Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 09500041.doc 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"So Representative, the Clerk advises me that there was an Amendment that was not put on the Bill. So, I mean, it's your call, but did you want to bring it back to Second? Are you happy with…"

"We'll… we'll bring it back to Second until…"

"Okay. So, let's move it back to Second…

"Thank you."

"…and do you wish… we could adopt the Amendment now, Representative. So, Mr. Clerk, I… I think… are there any Amendments pending, Mr. Clerk?"

"So would you like to present the Amendment, Representative?"

"Thank you, Mr. Chairman. All this basically does is clears up all concerns of the railroad, the IDOT people, to make sure that they're comfortable with what the Bill is doing. Basically all we're trying to do is establish a rail authority… port authority in Rockford."

"Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Gentleman's Amendment say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Okay. So Third Reading. Representative Joyce, you have House Bill 820. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 09500041.doc 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Joyce."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 820 will preclude those that are convicted of rape, murder, or sex offenses from working at a carnival. We've had this Bill before. It passed the Senate a couple of years ago. We've tried to change the Bill to address some of the issues of not only the operators of carnivals but also the Department of Labor who will oversee this process in which they would be registered. There's a background check that takes place through the Illinois State Police. Once it is done, those same workers are covered under this… under the… that background check for as long they remain employees of that particular carnival. I know that I'd spoken to Representative… Representative Sacia, some of the concern would be that the standing facilities such as Great America, certain water parks, that they would be exempted. It was my understanding from the attorneys from the Department of Labor that they were indeed exempted, based on their own acts and backgrounds that they do checks on. If they're not exempted I'm more than willing to amend that in the Senate. I'd be happy to answer any of your questions."

"This is on the Order of Short Debate. And in response, the Gentleman from Winnebago, Representative Sacia."

"Indicates he'll yield." 09500041.doc 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"Yes… yes there is. And that's done through the Department of Labor in which the notification will be provided to the Department of Labor that they intend to do a background check on that person. Pending that… the result of that background check, that person could work there unless a hit comes up automatically from the State Police."

"First of all, I think when you're dealing with most of these carnival workers, I should say for the record, or 09500041.doc 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 carnival operators and owners, many of them are family owned businesses, many of them are small businesses, many of them… most of them do a great job. And they are concerned with the long-term success of their business and they do look out to make sure that they're hiring good people. That is why we allowed the Department of Labor to develop these rules for preceding on short-term cases like this. But when something is scheduled they know that people are coming into town, most of them run their businesses very well and they know that they're going to need five (5) people for this particular week or seven(7) people for the next particular week and that allows them to put in advance the paperwork in with the Department of Labor to say we're going to use these people. And once they're registered, they're covered as long as the criminal background check is checked as we'll call for in the Bill with the Illinois State Police. They do the background check with the FBI computers and they'll be covered for as long that particular company wants to hire that particular worker."

"With regards to if… that there is a standing issue… if there's an issue with regards to standing events such as Great America, such as you know, a particular year-round water park or you know, seasonal water park. If they in 09500041.doc 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 fact are not exempted out then I would certainly do that in the Senate."

"Thank you."

"The Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black."

"To the Bill."

Speaker Hannig: "Is there any further discussion? Then Representative Joyce to close."

"Enough said. Thank you. I appreciate 'aye' votes."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Brosnahan and Mitchell, do you wish to be recorded? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'yes' and 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Tryon, you have House Bill 962. Representative Tryon. Out of the record. Representative Turner, you have House Bill 1380. Where'd he go? Okay, there he is. Representative Turner. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. 1380."

"Representative Turner."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 1380 provides that a minor under the age of seventeen (17) at the time of the commission of an act, anyone of these particular acts, homicide, criminal sexual 09500041.doc 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 assault, aggravated criminal sexual assault, predatory criminal sexual assault, and aggravated criminal sexual assault, must have counsel at the time of interrogation. Currently, we require counseling if the minor is adjudicated if he's under eighteen (18) and he's aju… under… under thirteen (13) we require it if he's adjudicated under the Delinquent Minors Act. This would raise it up to the age of seventeen (17) requiring counsel."

"This is on the Order of Short Debate. And in response, Representative Durkin."

"He indicates he'll yield."

"It will be the same process that's currently used for kids under the age of thirteen (13)."

"So, whatever that process is today that will be the same process that they will use now only we're raising the level to the kids is up to the age of seventeen (17)."

"They would have to… they would have to provide counsel for the juvenile. That's what the Bill… prior to questioning, they would have to provide counsel."

"That's what we're… that…"

"The Bill itself doesn't say whether it would be the police or the state's attorney who would be responsible for doing it first. It might…"

"The Bill doesn't specifically address it, Representative. My gut feeling would be that it would be a police that would be responsible for… the Bill does not address whether it will be the state's attorney or the police. I assume in the interrogation process that… that the state's attorney would be on site or be available if they're going through that type of interrogation."

"Representative, you're time has expired. Could you bring your remarks to a close."

"We're going to move this to Standard Debate. And Representative Reboletti, you're recognized for five (5) minutes."

"He indicates he'll yield."

"So, are you saying that the juvenile's being held for some other crime other than the ones that spelled out in this legislation?"

"And then it's discovered that he is a suspect in one of these other particular crimes?"

"At that point, counseling would be required."

Speaker Hannig: "Is there any further discussion? Then Representative Turner's recognized to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I… I understand the hypothetical's that were put out by the previous speakers. 09500041.doc 108  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 I think this is something that can be worked out between the police department and the state's attorneys. Keep in mind that we're talking about minors, kids under the age of seventeen (17), and I think it's only right that we provide counsels to these individuals when being charged with crimes of the nature as spelled out in House Bill 1380. And I move for the adoption of House Bill 1380."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 62 voting 'yes' and 51 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Tryon, did you wish us to read House Bill 962? 962. So, Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"This is on the Order of Short Debate. And in response, Representative McCarthy is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he'll yield." 09500041.doc 110  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"Thank you. Representative Tryon, this is the Bill that filled the vacancy with one (1) of two (2) choices, both consuls… the consul both times turns it down, and the mayor gets to pick one of those two (2)?"

"A temporary appointment which could be until the next election twenty-six (26) months later, would be the longest time but it could be whatever day it is. If it's… Depending on a date, they'd be there until the next general election."

"Okay. Well, to the Bill. I just would like to alert the Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I know they've worked on many, many aspects of this and I agree with almost every aspect of this except for the appointment of a vacancy. Right now, the way it's written, if a mayor of a village wants to replace one of the trustees who leaves for whatever reason, he gets to nominate a person, like it is today. Then the council says, 'yes' or 'no' to that person. Today, he would appoint… nominate a second person. The consul would once again say, 'yes' or 'no'. The way it is today under current law, the mayor would go back and try find a third person that might be agreeable to the consul. Under this piece of legislation, the mayor then gets to say, 'well, you didn't approve either of my first two (2) choices now I go back and I pick one (1) of those two (2) and it becomes a temporary appointment.' But a temporary appointment is basically going to be there until the next general election, as we said earlier, up to twenty-six (26) 09500041.doc 111  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 months later. I really think instead of having the best of the two (2) bad choices, they'd be better off without representation for that time. Make the mayor go out and pick somebody that the trustees can agree, can work together, get a majority of that board whom say, 'yes'. The nominee you brought forward is worthwhile, should be appointed to the board. This thing where... all… you know, every trustee could vote against both of these nominees for replacement and the mayor still gets to pick one (1) of the two (2) under this current legislation. I just think that… this little part of this Bill, unfortunately, makes it a Bill that I would certainly ask you to oppose. I don't think the mayors need this kind of power. They should be make to work their local consul. Find some people that could be agreeable to the majority of those members. Thank you."

"Representative Mulligan."

"He indicates he'll yield."

"Representative, your time has expired. Could you bring your remarks to a close."

Speaker Hannig: "So, we've had two (2) in response. Representative Lang, you're recognized for five (5) minutes."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he'll yield."

"Thank you. Representative, I actually wasn't paying too much attention to this Bill until Representative McCarthy spoke, and while I rarely listen to Representative McCarthy, the… he raised an interesting point. Was his interpretation 09500041.doc 115  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 of that situation regarding the appointment by the mayor of trustees, correct?"

"And you interpret two (2) passes added as an impasse?"

"Well, don't you leave open the possibility that the mayor in an effort to get his or her person without consul support just sort of throws out two (2) people that he knows are not going to be acceptable and then he just comes up with his own person?"

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, to the Bill."

"To the Bill."

"I understand what the Representative's trying to do. I think it's a good idea to try to find a more perfect way to do this system than it's done today. But I think this just leaves open too much opportunity for mischief. We all assume that the mayors all around the state are all above board and they want to work with their consulmen, etc cetera, etc cetera. But the truth of the matter is, the way that this is written, no matter how well-intentioned it is, it leaves open the opportunity that a mayor for his or her own purposes, would simply lob onto the table two (2) unacceptable candidates to the board of trustees or the city consul, so that he or she can get the person he or she really wants with this temporary appointment. So, while I agree that the current system may be flawed, I think replacing it with a system that's flawed more badly is not a good idea. I do not think while most of the rest of this Bill is well written, I do not think we can vote for a Bill that allows mayors to simply put into place anyone they want without advise and consent of the trustees. So, I reluctantly must rise in opposition to the Gentleman's Bill."

"So we've had two (2) … we had three (3) now speak in response and the rules would provide that two (2) additional speakers could rise in support. So, Representative Smith, do you wish to speak in favor of the Bill?" 09500041.doc 117  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"I'm not sure, Mr. Speaker. I think so, but I have a question."

"So the Sponsor would yield."

"Yes. Representative Tryon, does this legislation address only vacancies in elected office?"

"So it doesn't pertain to other mayoral appointments that are done annually, such as a city attorney or police chief or…"

"Because I was aware that that can be a problem also if there's not consensus among the consul to approve the mayoral appointments, they continue on as temporary appointments."

"Okay. This does not address that, it's only…"

"Okay. Thank you."

"The rules would provide for one additional speaker in support. Representative Washington, are you in support? The rules say only one more to speak in support."

"Mr. Speaker, like the former speaker, I don't know yet. I have a question."

"The Gentleman will yield."

"Representative Tryon, I was looking at the language and maybe I'm not understanding where it says 'that the vacancy occurs in any other elected office, the mayor, with the consent of the council, must appoint a qualified person 09500041.doc 118  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 to hold the position until the office is filled by election.' Is that saying that consent mean, just say okay, I got to do this, well go ahead and do it? I mean… can you give a little more detail as to what that might involve and did I pretty well say it or is it a little more involved than that?"

"So, it's the… it's the voting consent…"

"…not just consent?"

"Is it any reason that in your sponsorship names on the board that you didn’t get a diverse cross section? I mean, anybody… is there anybody on this aisle on this legislation?"

"To the Bill, Mr. Speaker."

"To the Bill."

"Mr. Speaker, I think… when I look at the Sponsors of the Bill, all of their honorable and intent, and when I tie that in with what Representative Lang was saying, I’m leaning with Representative Lang more so and I respect the 09500041.doc 119  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 Sponsor greatly, but I think this opens up a bigger problem than it solve. So, I won't be voting for this particular legislation. Thank you."

"We've now had… we've had three (3) a on each side. So, we're going to go to Representative Tryon to close."

"And the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk… Representative Lindner. Mr. Clerk… Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 98 voting 'yes' and 17 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, introduction of Bills."

"Representative Jakobsson, do you wish us to read House Bill 682? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 09500041.doc 121  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"So Representative, Amendments 2 and 3 have been approved. So on Amendment #2, what is your pleasure?"

"Amendment #2… just want to have Amendment #3 adopted."

"So the Lady withdraws Amendment #2. Are there any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"And on Amendment #3, Representative Jakobsson."

"Amendment #3 addresses this House Bill 682, the Illinois Procurement Code. And what it says is that Section would not apply… does not apply to a printing by a public institution of higher education, of material that's not paid for in any portion from funds appropriated by the General Assembly or printing that is performed by a university unit… unit, or printing that is performed in conjunction with contracts referenced in subsection (1) of Section 110."

"Any discussion on the Lady's Amendment? Then all in favor say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 1319." 09500041.doc 122  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"Representative, 2 and 3 have been approved. What's your choice…"

"Thank you. Even though…"

"What's your pleasure on 2?"

"…even though it was very nice of them to approve Amendment #2, I'd like to table Amendment #2 at this time."

"So the Gentleman withdraws Amendment #2."

"And then we would…"

"Mr. Clerk, are there further Amendments?"

"…we would like to move Amendment #3. And all Amendment 3 does is a technical… we just added some language like an (s) here or there and that's all Amendment #3 does. One was really the Bill. So with 1 already adopted and 3 adopted, we would be ready to call the Bill. So, I ask for its adoption."

"Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of the Gentleman's Amendment say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. And Mr. Clerk, read Senate Bill 377." 09500041.doc 123  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"Representative Molaro."

"Mr. Speaker, Amendment #4 has been let out of the Rules Committee…"

"Representative, I'm advised by the Clerk that we should move this back to Second…"

"Correct."

"So that we can get the Amendment. So move this back to Second at the request of the Sponsor."

"So Representative Molaro on Amendment #2, what is your pleasure?"

"Once… once again I thank the Rules Committee for approving it, but we'd like it to be tabled at this time."

"So the Gentleman withdraws Amendment #2, and on Amendment #4, Representative Molaro."

"Thank… thank you. Amendment #4, which we'd like approval on, is Cook County only and it's very similar to what the state did in 2002 and 2005, it's what they call the contribution cancellation. And what it does, it opens a window for sixty (60) days which allows people to resign their job and get one and a half times their contribution. Here in the state it worked very well. It was two times the contribution, this is only one and a half. And even though there's a payment by the pension fund, when you get rid of 09500041.doc 124  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 the liabilities it's a plus for the funded ratio and what you have is voluntary resignations as opposed to involuntary layoffs. The pension board is with it, the employers are with it, the employees with it and we would ask approval of Amendment #4."

"On the Amendment, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Fritchey."

"Thank you, Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Gentleman will yield."

"Representative, one more time in English. I… I… not…"

"I know I loved it. Pensions…"

"I… I can't understand what this does."

"Yeah, well pensions is obviously a language in and of itself. All it is, John, is this. As you well know, we did this with the state, well maybe you don't know, 'cause we did it twice with the state and they do it in a lot of places. Basically, all it is this. When we're trying to get the head count down, you don't want to do more layoffs, which we know is very difficult, all you do is this. You give a sixty-day window, so if me or you were county employees and we went in and it was ten thousand (10,000) was our contribution, now they would get fifteen thousand (15,000), one and a half times their contribution, to try to induce employees to leave. So, it's…"

"So… it's a window with a sweetener in order to lighten the job rolls."

"Right, but remember, it's not a early retirement incentive 'cause that's too much of a cost. And this is a plus to the pension fund because even though, say you were 09500041.doc 125  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007 getting ten thousand (10,000) now you get fifteen thousand (15,000) what it does is because you're a seven (7) or eight (8) year employee, all your liabilities go off the books. So the pension fund would probably go from 80 percent funded to 81 or 82 percent funded. So it's a win-win for both the county, the employees, as well as the pension system."

"So, this… I don't think I have a problem with that, I don't think I understand it well enough to have a issue with it. Was this an initiative of the county in an attempt to reduce the workforce? Well, I mean, in essence we usually see these things where you're trying to get some of the top- heavy from a seniority standpoint, some of the top-heavy bodies off of there by giving them an incentive to retire."

"And that's… that's basically it, but as you well know by reading the papers and of course you being from Chicago, know at firsthand, there's budgetary problems up there. It doesn't seem like they're going to not… going to get much relief from us, local governments, so instead of actually, John, what they're hoping is that if four or five hundred people take this opportunity, then there would be four or five hundred (400 or 500) less people they would have to lay off. And what happens is, when you lay off, as you well know, not only is that brutal for the families who get laid off, you also have to pay them unemployment insurance or workman's… not workman's comp but unemployment insurance. When you do it this way, the county saves that money. And I might add while you're thinking, the state did this twice and we doubled it, we earmarked it and it worked out to be a wonderful program for the State of Illinois." 09500041.doc 126  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"So would it be the intention of the county then to refill these positions with …"

"No."

"…younger… with younger individuals?"

"No, it' the intent of the county that they would be taken out of the budget."

"So they would be taken out and these positions would be eliminated and zeroed out?"

"It would… they would be zeroed out, therefore, staving off even more layoffs."

"Okay. I appreciate the answers. Thank you."

"Any further discussion? Then all in favor of the Amendment say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, would you read or would you move House Bill 876 from Third Reading back to the Order of Second Reading at the request of the Sponsor. And Representative Howard, you're recognized on House Joint Resolution 11. Representative… Representative Howard. On House Joint Resolution 11."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Joint Resolution designates the Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity to work with the Lincoln-Douglas Debates Sesquicentennial Collation in planning the sesquicentennial activities. As you know, the celebration will be next year for a hundred and fifty (150) years, and we're just encouraging all of the kinds of activities possible to make sure that this year is a memorable one." 09500041.doc 127  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"Is there any discussion? Then all in favor of House Joint Resolution 11 vote 'aye'; those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Tryon, Reitz, do you wish to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 115 voting 'yes' and 0 voting 'no'. And the Resolution is adopted. Representative Black, you're recognized for a Motion."

"Fifteen… 1592."

"You heard the Gentleman's Motion. Is there any discussion? Can we use leave for the Attendance Roll Call? And the Motion is adopted and the posting requirements are suspended. Representative Howard, you're recognized for a Motion to Table. Representative Howard. Representative Howard, you're recognized to make a Motion to Table on House Bill 2184."

"That's exactly what I'd like to do. Thank you."

"So the Lady moves to table House Bill 2184. Is there leave for the Attendance Roll Call? Leave is granted, the Lady's Motion is adopted and the Bill is tabled. Representative Arroyo, you have an announcement? Not yet, okay. Representative… Mr. Clerk, read the Agreed Resolution." 09500041.doc 128  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"Representative Currie moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All in favor say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Representative Arroyo is recognized for an announcement."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. We have an announcement to make. We have a birthday party for Tony Berrios, my seatmate, at Brown's Saloon from 6-8 o'clock today. If all the Members could make it I'd appreciate it. Thank you very much. He's old. Does anyone want to sing Happy Birthday? Does anybody want to sing Happy Birthday?"

Speaker Hannig: "Are there any other announcements? Representative Ryg." 09500041.doc 129  STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 41st Legislative Day 4/24/2007

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just a reminder to all Members that the Capitol Capers rehearsal will be at 5:30 this afternoon in the auditorium at the Howlett Building. All are welcome. Thank you."

"Any other announcements? Then Representative Currie moves that the House stands adjourned until tomorrow, Wednesday, April 25, at the hour of 11:00 a.m. All in favor say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Motion is adopted and the House stands adjourned."