Illinois House Floor Debate — March 17, 2009

"The House shall be in order. We're… we shall be led in prayer today by Reverend Richard Eident, who is the pastor of Windsor Christian Church in Windsor, Illinois. Reverend Eident is the guest of Representative Flider. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off cell phones and pagers, and rise for the invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance."

"We'll be led in the Pledge of Allegiance today by Representative Sacia."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record reflect that Representatives Crespo, Dugan, Gordon, and Yarbrough are excused today."

"Thank you. Representative Bost."

"Thank you, Representative Bost. With 110 Members answering the Roll, a quorum is present and we may proceed. Mr. Clerk, take the record. Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Clerk."

"It's the intent of the Chair to proceed with Bills on Second Reading and these are Bills from the 09600027.doc 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 Members' priority list. We'll be starting alphabetically and then going from Democrats to Republican and we'll cross back and forth until we get the Bills moved from Second to Third. On page 4 of the Calendar is House Bill 165. Representative Acevedo. Out of the record. On page #… on page 9 of the Calendar, Mr. Clerk, House Bill 437. Representative Beiser. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, on page 25 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2244. Representative Biggins. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, on page 34 of the Calendar is House Bill 2557. Representative Bradley. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, on page 38 of the Calendar appears House Bill 3641. Representative Brauer. Representative Brauer? Out of the record. Mr. Clerk, on page 14 of the Calendar appears House Bill 769. Representative Cavaletto. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 09600027.doc 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Third Reading. On page 39 of the Calendar, House Bill 3670. Representative Brosnahan. Out of the record. On page 49 of the Calendar, House Bill 4122. Representative Chapa LaVia. Read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 8 of the Calendar, House Bill 379. Representative Connelly. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 21 of the Calendar is House Bill 1126. Representative Collins. Out of the record. On page 25 of the Calendar, House Bill 2245. Representative Currie. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 18 of the Calendar, House Bill 979. Representative Coulson. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 09600027.doc 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, on page 32 of the Calendar is House Bill 2481. Representative Cross. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, on page 3 of the Calendar appears House Bill 71. Representative D’Amico. Out of the record. On page 12 of the Calendar, House Bill 648. Representative Monique Davis. Out of the record. Page 26 of the Calendar, House Bill 2266. Representative Dunkin. For what reason is the Lady from Cook, Representative Davis…" Davis, M.: "Mr. Speaker, on 648 there was Amendment #1."

"Okay. Mr. Clerk, what is the Amen… the status of Amendment #1? Representative Davis, we'll go back to that Bill in just a moment." Davis, M.: "Thank you."

"On Representative Dunkin's 2266, please take that Bill out of the record. Mr. Clerk, would you return to House Bill 648."

"Representative Davis on Floor Amendment 1." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment 1 merely puts in a sunset date of 10 years hence. The original Bill does not have… had a sunset date, but our new Bill did not have one. Therefore, in order to satisfy the questions of some of the adversaries, we added a sunset date of 10 years."

"The Lady moves the adoption of the Amendment. All in favor signify by 'aye'; opposed same sign. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, on page 12 of the Calendar, House Bill 705 appears. Representative Farnham. Out of the rec… out of the record. On page 19 is… appears House Bill 1033. Representative Flider. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 19 of the Calendar, we have House Bill 1079. Representative Eddy. Mr. Clerk, move the Bill… read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 11 of the Calendar appears House Bill 621. Representative Fortner. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Read… Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, page 2 of the Calendar appears House Bill 7. Representative Franks. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 48 of the Calendar appears House Bill 4051. Representative Froehlich. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 27 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2295. Representative Hatcher. Read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 37 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2687. Representative Leitch. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 09600027.doc 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Third Reading. On page 34 of the Calendar is… appears House Bill 2540. Representative McAuliffe. McAuliffe. Read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 8 of the Calendar appears House Bill 392. Representative Golar. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 46 of the Calendar appears House Bill 3990. Representative Hamos. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 5 of the Calendar appears House Bill 180. Representative Graham. Read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 16 of the Calendar is House Bill 897. Representative Harris. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 9 of the Calendar, House Bill 489. Representative Hernandez. Out of the record. On page 33 of the Calendar, House Bill 2530. Representative Holbrook. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 2 of the Calendar is House Bill 38. Representative Moffitt. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

Speaker Mautino: "On Floor Amendment 1, Representative Moffitt."

"The Gentleman moves adoption of Amendment 1. All in favor signify by 'aye'; opposed same sign. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. On page 18 of the Calendar is House Bill 1003. Representative Poe. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 8 of the Calendar is House Bill 349. Representative Pritchard. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Pritchard on Floor Amendment #1."

"The Gentleman moves adoption of Amendments… 1. Is there any discussions? Seeing none, all in favor of adoption of the Amendments signify by 'aye'; opposed same 09600027.doc 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 sign. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, are there any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. On page 21 of the Calendar is House Bill 1147. Representative Ramey. Out of the record. On page 7 of the Calendar is House Bill 303. Representative Reis. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 46 of the Calendar is House Bill 3972. Representative Jackson. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 46 of the Calendar appears House Bill 3986. Representative Joyce. Out of the record. On page 14 of the Calendar is House Bill 773. Representative Lang. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Lang on Floor Amendment 2."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, this started out as a significant dispute between the beer distributors and the brewers, particularly Miller and 09600027.doc 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 Anheuser Busch. Anheuser Busch is perfectly fine with this Amendment as drafted and supports the Bill. As for Miller, almost all of their problems have been resolved except one and that deals with the use of State Law. Clearly, this General Assembly would want to support Illinois State Law controlling contract that involve Illinois companies and as written, that's what this Amendment does. I would ask for its adoption."

"Thank you. On the Amendments, Representative Soto, the Lady from Cook."

"Not on the Amendment. I have a poi… Speaker, point of personal privilege. Do you want me to wait?"

"We'll return momentarily to the point of personal pri… On the Bill and the Amendment, Representative Eddy."

"He indicates he will."

"There were many issues between the beer distributors and Miller."

"Through negotiation, almost all of them are resolved in this Amendment. There's one remaining issue which is the one I described that it… it involves the beer distributors insistence that these contracts be viewed from the point of 09600027.doc 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 view of Illinois State Law. Miller has a different point of view. Other than that, all other issues are resolved."

"That is correct."

"Additionally, I don't think there's going to be any further movement. And so, we have to decide as a matter of policy whether we think Illinois's businesses has the contracts they enter into should be interpreted through Illinois State Law or somebody else's law."

"Thank you. Seeing no further questions, the Gentleman moves adoption of Amendment #2. All in favor signify by 'aye'; opposed same sign. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. On a point of personal privilege, the Chair recognizes Representative Soto."

"Thank… thank you, Speaker."

"Proceed."

"Yes. On a point of personal privilege, I'd like to welcome…"

"Well, could…"

"…Erie Charter School, right here to my right. Can we just say hello to Erie Charter. Keep up the good work on your grades. Thank you."

"Clerk, back on House Bill 773. The Amendment is adopted." 09600027.doc 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Are there any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Representative Joyce on House Bill 3986, on page 46 of the Calendar. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 5 of the Calendar, we have House Bill 202. Representative Lyons. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, on page 37 of the Calendar is House Bill 2680. Representative Rose. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 10 of the Calendar appears House Bill 583. Representative Sacia. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Sacia on Floor Amendment 1." 09600027.doc 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

Speaker Mautino: "The Gentleman moves adoption of Floor Amendment #1. All in favor signify by 'aye'; opposed same sign. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, please keep that Bill on Second Reading. On page 23 of the Calendar is House Bill 1327. Representative Senger. Read the Bill."

"On the Amendment, Representative… Chapa LaVia on Floor Amendment #1."

"Yes, Speaker and Members of the House. It's a friendly… a friendly Amendment. We added in Rush-Copley Hospital and the lead Sponsor on this has authorized it. So, I'll take any questions."

Speaker Mautino: "Seeing no discussion, the… Representative Chapa LaVia moves adoption of Amendment #1. All in favor signify by 'aye'; opposed same sign. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. On page 30 of the Calendar, House Bill 2428. Representative May. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 09600027.doc 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Third Reading. On Rep… on page 29 of the Calendar, House Bill 2370. Representative McAsey. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 22 of the Calendar appears House Bill 1291. Representative Saviano. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 42 of the Calendar appears House Bill 3798. Representative McCarthy. Out of the record. On page 26 of the Calendar is… appears House Bill 2270. Representative McGuire. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On the Calendar, on page 45 appears House Bill 3962. Representative Mell. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 28 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2343. Representative Mendoza. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 6 of the Calendar is House Bill 264. Representative Miller. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Miller on Floor Amendment 1."

"Thank you… thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Amendment was based on several recommendations from the committee in terms of conflicts of interest and trying to narrow the scope of those with expertise on the committee."

Speaker Mautino: "On Floor Amendment 1, no one seeking recognition, the Gentleman moves adoption. All in favor signify by 'aye'; opposed same sign. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. On page 36 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2664. Representative Nekritz, in the center aisle. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 09600027.doc 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Third Reading. On page 39 of the Calendar appears House Bill 3670. Representative Brosnahan. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 3 of the Calendar appears House Bill 48. Representative Osterman. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 18 of the Calendar appears House Bill 1010. Representative Reitz. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Reitz on Floor Amendment 2."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good to see you up there. Floor Amendment 1 changes 'shall' to 'may' and I believe would remove all the objections to this Bill. Thank you." 09600027.doc 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

Speaker Mautino: "And that was your description of Floor Amendment 2 on that Bill."

"Two, correct, 2. Sorry."

Speaker Mautino: "Seeing no one's seeking recognition, the Gentleman moves adoption of Floor Amendment 2. All in favor signify by 'aye'; opposed same sign. The 'ayes' have it. And Floor Amendment 2 is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. On page 30 of the Calendar is House Bill 2424. Representative Riley. Out of the record. On page 14 of the Calendar appears House Bill 786. Representative Rita. Out of the record. On page 29 of the Calendar is House Bill 2377. Representative Smith. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 49 of the Calendar appears House Bill 4124. Representative Soto. Read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 35 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2626. Representative Verschoore. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 09600027.doc 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Third Reading. On page 29 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2393. Representative Walker. Out of the record. On page 29 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2365. Representative Washington. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 34 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2542. Representative Yarbrough. Out of the record. On page 38 of the Calendar, House Bill 3641. Representative Brauer. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"On Hou… On page… Excuse me. Third Reading. On page 21 of the Calendar appears House Bill 1147. Representative Ramey. Out of the record. On page 29 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2370. Representative McAsey. Mr. Clerk, take that out of the record. On page 25 of the Calendar… On page 4 of the Calendar appears House Bill 165. Representative Acevedo. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 2 of the Calendar appears House Bill 12. Representative Arroyo. Out of the record. On page 26 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2266. Representative Dunkin. Read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 46 of the Calendar appears House Bill 3999. Representative Flowers. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 14 of the Calendar appears House Bill 786. Representative Rita. Read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, on page 20 of the Calendar appears House Bill 1099. Representative McCarthy. Read the Bill."

"Hold the Bill on Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, on 1099."

"Move the Bill to Third Reading. On page 9 of the Calendar is House Bill 462. Representative Phelps. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 7 of the Calendar appears House Bill 281. Representative Bellock. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Bellock on Floor Amendment 2."

Speaker Mautino: "The Lady moves the adoption of Floor Amendment 2. All in favor signify by 'aye'; opposed same sign. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading."

"Mr. Clerk, on Calendar… on Second Reading, House Bill 72. Representative D’Amico. Read the Bill."

Speaker Mautino: "On Floor Amendment 2, Representative D’Amico."

Speaker Mautino: "Floor Amendment 1 remains in the Rules Committee. So, we will be dealing with Floor Amendment 2. And on your Motion?"

"I have a Motion to adopt Floor Amendment 2. Seeing no one seeking recognition, all in favor signify by 'aye'; opposed same sign. The 'ayes' have it. And Floor Amendment 2 is adopted. Mr. Clerk, are there any further Amendments?"

Speaker Mautino: "Third Reading. It's now the Chair's intention to move to Third Readings. Mr. Clerk, on page #… on page 53 appears House Bill 470. Representative Berrios. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Berrios."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 470 is… I'm trying to pass it so that I can help a business in my district. It is a restaurant that wants to open up 76 feet away from a church, not a school, just a church. They are on different streets; they are not on the exact same street. And we… I would like your support on it."

"On House Bill 470, Representative Eddy."

"Indicates she will."

"I have not heard from any of the parishioners at all. The Reverend of the church says he's okay; he did not want to write a letter of support because it is a liquor establishment, but he is okay with it because there was a previous establishment in the exact same location before the church was there."

"There was an establishment there, then the church came. The original establishment closed and there's a new purchaser of the property." 09600027.doc 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Right. The church opened after the original establishment was there."

"No one else seeking recognition on this Bill. The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the Roll. On this Bill, 60 voting 'yes', 47 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. The Bill is declared passed. Mr. Clerk, on page 54 of the Calendar appears House Bill 645. Representative Burke. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Burke."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 645 simply puts the chiropractor back in position to write letters of excuse to excuse children from school. They had always been in the legislation and up until last year were inadvertently removed. This language 09600027.doc 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 puts them back into the legislation and again, quite simply, permits a chiropractor to issue a letter of illness in the case of a student missing class. Be happy to answer any questions."

"On House Bill 645, Representative Eddy, the Gentleman from Crawford."

Speaker Mautino: "No one else seeking recognition. The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Shall this Bill… Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. With 110 voting 'yes', 0 'noes', 0 'presents', this Bill is declared passed. On page 52 of the Calendar appears House Bill 194. Representative Bassi. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Bassi."

"No one seeking recognition. The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Jefferson. Mr.… Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. With 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', this Bill is declared passed. For what reason does Representative Phelps rise?"

"A point of personal privilege, Mr. Speaker."

"Proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I'd like for all my colleagues to wish a happy belated birthday to my seatmate, Dan Reitz. He is the double nickel, 55. So, give him a hand."

"Happy birthday, Representative. On page 52 of the Calendar appears House Bill 208. Representative Feigenholtz. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Feigenholtz."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 208 creates a Community Health Care (sic-Center) Construction Act that essentially establishes a… a pot for capital money. I'd be glad to answer any questions." 09600027.doc 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

Speaker Mautino: "On House Bill 208, no one seeking recognition. The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wished? Representative Tracy. Mr. Clerk, take the record. With 109 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', the Bill will be… is declared passed. Mr. Clerk, on page 53 of the Calendar appears House Bill 265. Representative Will Davis. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Mr. Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. As I'm… House Bill 265 is an initiative of the Treasurer's Office which helps to provide standards and ways in which the Treasurer, who is the repositor of unclaimed property here in the State of Illinois. This is to help create standards and mechanisms by which if they receive a piece of unclaimed property that could have been used or may be considered as evidence and part of a crime or some type of investigation, this just creates the mechanism by which they work with the State Police and the standards by which they work with the State Police to turn that piece of unclaimed property over to allow it to be used as a piece of evidence in a criminal investigation. And it also talks about how that piece of property, if, after the investigation is done, it's no longer considered evidence in that investigation, it comes back to the Treasurer's Office and then is a part of the 09600027.doc 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 unclaimed property… unclaimed property that the Treasurer's Office maintains. I'll be more than happy to try to answer any questions."

"Thank you, Representative Davis. And on House Bill 265, Representative Rose…"

"…is seeking recognition."

"Indicates he will."

Speaker Mautino: "Representative Monique Davis is seeking recognition." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates he will." Davis, W.: "Thank you. Representative, may I ask why this is needed now?" 09600027.doc 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 Davis, W.: "Why it's needed now? Well, I think the State Treasurer's Office is simply being proactive. Again, they are the repositor of unclaimed property for the State of Illinois and when they receive things that they think may have been used or could have been used or if it looks suspicious in any matter, they want to work with the State Police to develop the standards and the procedures by which they turn that, whatever it is, over to the State Police so that it can be examined in a manner, the investigatory manner that they operate in to find out or determine whether or not it could have or may have been used as part of some crime or something of that nature." Davis, M.: "So, Representative, up until 2009, what would happen to those things that could have been used in a crime?" Davis, W.: "Well, I'm not saying that they, in the past, weren't turned over to the State Police, but our Treasurer's Office just wants to be proactive in developing the standards by which those objects are indeed turned over. Now, I'm not an investigator or police officer, but when things are taken into evidence, they should be treated a certain way. And so, they just want to be certain that they're treating the objects in the manner… in the high level that the State Police would want them to treat it in case it is going to be used." Davis, M.: "So, Representative, if something is missing, who would be responsible, the Treasurer or the State Police?" Davis, W.: "What do you mean missing?" 09600027.doc 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 Davis, M.: "Well, suppose there's an item missing and the prosecutor says, hey, this was something that the Treasurer had and now it's gone. Where is it?" Davis, W.: "Well, those standards, that we're trying to develop with the State Police, will create the, I guess, the chain of custody for those types of objects so you'll see when they came into the State Treasurer's Office and then if they're subsequently turned over to the State Police, they'll be a chain of custody that will specify, I think, what you're asking." Davis, M.: "And my final question, Representative, is, has any evidence ever come up missing from the State Police Department?" Davis, W.: "From the State Police Department? Unfortunately, I can't answer that question." Davis, M.: "Thank you. I'll support your Bill, but I do have many questions. Thank you." Davis, W.: "Thank you."

Speaker Mautino: "Seeing no one seeking recognition, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. And the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', the Bill is declared passed. Mr. Clerk, on page 56 of the Calendar appears House Bill 820. Representative Hoffman. Read the Bill."

"Representative Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 820 makes various alterations to the Military Code of Illinois. It's an initiative of the Adjutant General's Office. Currently, the Adjutant General's unable to order into active duty personnel of the Illinois National Guard to support nonemergency training, training to support IEMA or Homeland Security training. Additionally, this would give the Adjutant General expanded authority to set safety, health and security standards on its facilities like Camp Lincoln, Sparta, et cetera. And finally, it would make sure that the regulations governing the state's payment for medical and dental bills for soldiers injured in the line of their performances of duty will be updated. It hasn't been updated since 1950 and this would make sure that they would actually receive medical treatment when necessary."

"Seeking recognition is Representative Will Davis. For what reason is the Gentleman seeking recognition? Representative Reboletti is seeking recognition."

"Indicates he will."

"I think that the appropriations would have to be made for the training exercises and the like through IEMA and 09600027.doc 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 Homeland Security. Currently, the Adjutant General cannot order into active duty personnel of the National Guard in order to support nonemergency training. So, the nonemergency training would have to be appropriated and the money would have to be available and then they could do the proper training for Homeland Security."

Speaker Mautino: "The Gentleman from Bond, Representative Stephens is seeking recognition."

"Indicates he will."

"It's an… it's an initiative of the Adjutant General's Office. So, I guess it could say it's an administration Bill."

"No. I've… I've already done that Floor Leader's bit."

"Not interested."

"No one else seeking recognition, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'yes'; opposed vote 'no'. And the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. McGuire, Mr. Phelps. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', this Bill is declared passed. Mr. Clerk, 09600027.doc 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 on Calendar page 54 appears House Bill 682. Representative Burns. Read the Bill."

"Representative Burns."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I'm here to present House Bill 682. It's an initiative of the City of Chicago. The Bill makes a technical change to existing law and to permit the independent police review authority access to juvenile records to carry out their investigations. It's a technical change. I know of no opposition."

"And on your first Bill, Representative Eddy is seeking recognition. What… what reason does the Gentleman rise?"

"Indicates he will."

"Yes."

"I'm not aware of substantive change to existing law. A couple of years ago, the City of Chicago adopted by ordinance a new agency to investigate police misconduct cases. This law… this Bill simply makes a change to existing law to allow that new agency to access records that the police department formerly had access to."

"They need… the City of Chicago needs this change in order to complete the thousands of investigations that they need to do in the City of Chicago on a number of police misconduct cases."

"Yes, Sir."

"That's an excellent question. My understanding is that through the committee process we had a lot of opportunity for folks to come forward who had opposition and there was no opposition. There were no witness slips in opposition to the Bill."

"I'm curious about the relevance to the Bill, Representative."

"No, there's no… there's no relationship to any outside work that I do. I'm just a good citizen of the City of 09600027.doc 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 Chicago and a Member of this Body trying to do some good for the folks back home."

"No, I work for a small… a small public affairs firm back in Chicago."

"No, we do not do any work for juveniles. There's no… there's no conflict of interest on this Bill. I checked it out with the… the House staff and we're all… we're all set on this Bill."

"I did."

Speaker Mautino: "For what reason is the Gentleman from Jackson, Representative Bost, seeking recognition?"

"Yes."

"He indicates he will."

"We adopted a Committee Amendment to make the Bill better at the request of the Cook County State's Attorney." 09600027.doc 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Well, we wanted to make it a better Bill and there were some comments that we received and we thought it would be better to go ahead and take those comments and I think that we have a better product as a consequence."

"We wanted to make it the best Bill that it could be for this special process."

"I just work for a small public affairs firm."

"We do public relations, correct."

"Well, I think juveniles will be happy to know that this Bill is out there because it will make it easier for the independent police review agency to investigate issues where juveniles are involved."

"I do. I have one daughter." 09600027.doc 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"She is 17 months."

"When she wants her milk, she certainly knows how to protest."

"The Amendment was a sug… was at the suggestion of the Cook County State's Attorneys Office."

"And it just tightened up the language that was in the underlying Bill."

"They did. You know, there's a cur… under cur…"

"Thank… My expertise in it is that I'm a citizen of the City of Chicago and resident of the State of Illinois and a Member of this House and was trying to do a Bill that would make a difference for the folks back home and make it easier for the city to investigate issues of police misconduct. And so, that's why I was happy to sponsor the Bill." 09600027.doc 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Actually, the way the Bill is written if any other municipality through ordinance creates the same kind of civilian organization as the City of Chicago to investigate these kinds of cases, then they would be covered by this statute."

"It is not."

"It is not special legislation."

"It was needed and important. That's why I decided to carry it."

"Not special legislation…"

"Could the Gentleman bring his remarks to a close."

"…in the way that you define the term."

"The Gentleman from Chicago, Representative Lang. For what reason do you rise?"

"Well, first of all. Mr. Speaker…"

"From Cook."

"…I'm not from Chicago."

"From Cook. The Gentleman from Cook." 09600027.doc 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Not that I mind. It's a wonderful city; I represent part of it. I… And we'll get back to you in a minute, Sir, but will the Sponsor yield?"

"Yes."

"Indicates he will."

"I thought he might. Representative, I just want to straighten this out for the record and for all these wonderful people in the gallery. This is your first Bill."

"This is my first Bill as a Member of the House."

"Now, you handled quite a few Bills when you were in the Senate, did you not, as a staff person?"

"I did."

"Yeah. So, is this something left over from your agenda from another year, Sir?"

"It is not, Representative. It was… it's a Bill that the City of Chicago came to me with that they wanted to deal with this Legislative Session."

"Well, who from the city? The entire city, all eight million people showed up in your office. Who came to you about this Bill?"

"Some… some folks from the city's department of intergovernmental affairs and some folks from the police review agency."

"All of them?"

"Not all of them."

"Several of them all at once converged on your office."

"I asked to meet with folks from the City of Chicago to find out what issues they were going to be working on this Legislative Session and they offered this Bill as an 09600027.doc 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 opportunity for me to be helpful to the folks back in my district."

"Now, has this been a big agenda item for you throughout your whole life that you would make this your very first Bill?"

"Having worked in the Senate, I tried to find a Bill that was going to be appropriate for this process but would also be important to the people of my district."

"So… and you've checked with the people of your district about this particular Bill. Did you do a survey, a phone poll? How do you know, Sir?"

"I talked to some folks in my district that, you know, advised me on policy issues and they thought it was a good approach to take."

"Really. And do you have other policy issues that you've gotten out of your constituents? You might… The reason I ask is you might save some of us the need to have a local meeting. Maybe you can give us all information that you've gathered from your constituents. Would you share it with us?"

"The basic issue, you know, is that we have this independent agency and it's not covered under State Law until it's going to slow down the process. We're investigating a… police cases, cases of misconduct and if that's a big issue in the community where you have qui… a issue of what's going on with those cases and closing out the investigations, as you know, justice delayed is justice denied. So, that's why I'm sponsoring the Bill." 09600027.doc 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Justice delayed is justice denied. That's very good. Are you aware, Sir, that your answer was like when I ask you the time and you just tell me how to build a clock? I didn't ask you that question that you answered. So, let me ask you this. It's really more of a personnel issue. I know this is your first Bill."

"Yes."

"It's very important to you."

"Yes."

"There's 118 Members out here on the House Floor and you could only find one cosponsor and a dentist at that? This is the only cosponsor you could find to help you with this Bill?"

"Well, I… I would encourage all the Members of this Body to sign on to the Bill, but I'm happy to have Representative Miller's support and hope that everyone will vote for the Bill."

"You understand now that you've mentioned his name in debate we're going to be hearing from him next."

"I saw his light on anyway, so…"

"All right. So, I noticed that your Senate Sponsor is Senator Raoul."

"Gentleman, bring his remarks to a close."

"That was 5 minutes. I wasted some of it telling you I wasn't from Chicago. All right. Last question. Senator Raoul has a similar Bill in the Senate. Is he your Senator?"

"He is my Senator."

"Did he run his Bill yet?" 09600027.doc 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"I'm not sure where it is in the process. My understanding is it's on… it's out of committee and on the floor."

"Don't you think he's going to be pretty darn ticked off that his freshman Representative ran the Bill before he did? What about the protocol? Maybe you should take this out of the record and check with him, Sir?"

"Well, I… you know, if I have an opportunity to talk to him, I will definitely touch base with him, but I'd like to proceed with the Bill."

"Well, you want to just take this out of the record and we can come back to it while you check with your Senator?"

"I appreciate the recommendation, but I'd like to continue forward with the…"

"One thing I should tell you. You should never tick off your Senator. Thank you, Sir."

"Representative Reboletti."

"He indicates he will."

"Yes, Representative."

"Well, because under current law the only agency… police agencies are the only ones that have access to these files. So, because the City of Chicago has created a new entity to investigate these cases, they weren't covered under the current law. So, what this Bill does is add agencies that are created like this, by ordinance, so that they can have access to this information under certain circumstances."

"The basic issue is that about 11 percent of the investigations that are handled by the authority involved at least one juvenile victim or a witness to the alleged misconduct. And so, having access to those files gives you more information about who was involved in those… in that particular incident and that's very important in terms of doing a thorough investigation."

"That's correct." 09600027.doc 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Thankfully, I am not."

"No. You know, I'm unaware of any opposition. We worked to amend the Bill in committee so that it would be a better Bill. In fact, the Cook County State's Attorneys Office offered several suggestions that we've incorporated. And so, I'd like to proceed and move this Bill over to the Senate so that we can get it to the Governor's desk and move forward."

"Representative Sullivan."

"Yes."

"Indicates he will."

"Specifically juvenile records." 09600027.doc 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Well, the Amendment that we adopted in committee provides that the agency may not disclose or release the information of these records to the general public."

"It's the persons or staff charged with the duty of investigating the police conduct. So, those are the only folks at the agency… excuse me… the authority who are permitted to review those records."

"Well, I'm not sure if I see the same gap that you see, Representative. My understanding is that, under current law, the current law just has it the police department has access to these records."

"And it's not delineated in current statute who in the police department has access to these records and that… in terms of review. What we wanted to do was amend the statute to include this new agency and make it very clear these records cannot become public under any circumstances."

"Well, my understanding, Representative, is that in the language they… the agency has to be specifically charged in that ordinance with the responsibility of investigating these sorts of cases. We drew… we drafted the language as narrowly as possible to deal with this… this circumstance. The independent police review authority is the only one of its kind in the entire state."

"Further questions? The Gentleman from Cook, Dr. Miller."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates he will."

"At least somebody maybe can help you out. That's with Representative Burns since my name is listed. I noticed that the Senate Sponsor is also in the chamber. Is he here to help you with this Bill?"

"I'm not sure. He's standing a bit away from me, so I would not… I would not assume that he's here to help me on this particular legislative matter."

"So, you're not sure what he's doing here regardless, right? But it's not to help you?"

"I'm not sure exactly why he's here, but I'm sure it's for an important purpose for the people of the great State of Illinois. He carries a number of my Bills over in the Senate and so, I'm happy…"

"Well, you mentioned… you mentioned the Senate and you came from the Senate. Does… how does past President… President Jones feel about this Bill?"

"I have not had any…" 09600027.doc 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Especially you being a House Member? You being a House Member now, how does Senate President Jones, past President, feel about this?"

"Are you asking me how he feels about the Bill or how he feels about me being a Member of the House or both?"

"Well, I can imagine what he would say if you were a Member of the House. I'm sure other Members of the House would know he would… may say about it, but since we're talking about the Bill, let's talk about the Bill."

"To answer your question, Representative. I have not had the opportunity to discuss this issue with the former Senate President."

"Well, he may be for this or against this. You don't know?"

"I have no idea where… what his position on this Bill is."

"Well, why don't you go back to the Senate and find out?"

"'Cause he's not there."

"Oh, okay. All right. Okay. All right. Just wanted to make sure. Let me ask you something. I mean, did you know that there comes a time… you know, is this one of those times when we need to have a certain call. Did you know that?"

"I'm sorry. Can you repeat your question? It was a little loud in here…"

"I'm asking… I'm asking the question. Did you know that there comes a time when we need a certain… to heed a certain call? Did you know that?" 09600027.doc 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"I'm familiar with this. I think I know where you're going, but please continue, Representative."

"Well, when the world must come together as one… is this one of those Bills that the world must come together as one?"

"I don't know about the world, but I'd like to get 'green' lights on this Bill. I'd love to get the support of all the Members of the House and move it over to the Senate."

"And speaking of 'green' lights, do you know what the Century Club is?"

"I believe I am aware of the Century Club."

"Oh. Well, did you know we can't go on day to day pretending? Did you know that? That these Bills are important like this. Is this still important?"

"This Bill is important to the people of the City of Chicago and the State of Illinois and it's a very important Bill and I'd appreciate your support on it."

"Well, I would argue, Representative Burns, that we are all part of God's great big family and in truth… and the truth, you know, love is all we need. Did you know that?"

"I was aware of that. I was aware of."

"Did you know we are the world? We are the children… Representative Burns, serious. You know, we are the children."

"I'm certainly…"

"Is this is for the children? Is this for the children? Answer the question?" 09600027.doc 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"This is for the children. This will help to make sure when there are cases involving juveniles that the… the authority will have access to the records that are important to carrying out the investigation."

"Well, we are the ones who will make a brighter day, Representative Burns, not the City of Chicago. But we are the ones."

"And that's why I'd appreciate your support on this Bill."

"All right. So, let's start giving. All right. Are you willing to do that?"

"Yes."

"Okay. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"For what reason does the Gentleman from Cook, Representative McCarthy, seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move the previous question."

Speaker Mautino: "Previous question has been moved. Representative Burns to close."

"Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would appreciate your support on this Bill. Thank you very much."

"And the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'yes'; opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Burns, you may want to talk some more. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Flowers, Washington, Ford. Mr. Clerk, take the record. And on this Bill, with 107 voting 'yes', 100… 4 voting 09600027.doc 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 'no', 0 voting 'present', the Bill has passed. Congratulations on your first Bill. Representative Lyons, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Mr. Speaker, for the point of personal privilege."

"State your point."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, this morning I was privileged enough to put in House Joint Resolution 37, which I'm sure we'll be voting on at some point in time in the future. But what House Joint Resolution 37 does is it honors the Hemophilia Foundation of Illinois on their 60th anniversary. And sitting up in the gallery above the Democratic side are members of the Hemophilia Foundation of Illinois. I'd appreciate a nice, warm Springfield welcome. Thank you. And God love you for all the work you do."

"Welcome to Springfield. Mr. Clerk, on page 52 of the Calendar appears House Bill 47. Representative Brady. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Mr. Brady."

"And on House Bill 47, Representative Franks." 09600027.doc 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates he will."

"Representative, I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to accomplish with this Bill. Our analysis indicates that you're looking to exempt physical or mental status. Could you describe this some more?"

"Why?"

"'Cause I see the Press Association is opposed at this point."

"Well, could we hold off then and move it to Second until we get the language so we can make this an agreed Bill because it's the first week of what we're doing this. I'd like to make sure we get it right, if we could?"

"Well, perhaps we can wait a day if we don't hear back from them."

"Thank you."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Clerk, would you take this Bill out of the record. Mr. Clerk, on page 52 of the Calendar is House Bill 65. Representative Ford. Out of the record. Mr. Clerk, on page 55 of the Calendar appears House Bill 761. Representative Howard. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Howard."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 761 amends the Juvenile Court Act of 1987. It provides that the… that if the minor is in the custody of the Illinois Department of Children and Family Services of the State of Illinois, that pursuant to an order entered under the Delinquent Minors Article, the court shall conduct permanency hearings as set out in the Abused, Neglected or Dependent Minors Article of the Juvenile Court Act. Currently, if a minor is in the custody of the Illinois Department of Children and Family Services, pursuant to an order of Abused, Neglected or Dependent Minors Article, the court can conduct dependency hear… a permanency hearing and the department would like that to be the same with the delinquency situations. I would ask that my colleagues please vote 'yes' on this legislation."

"On House Bill 761, Representative Reboletti."

"Indicates she will."

"Obviously, they're having a difficult time trying to assist these young people and they feel that if this was in place, then they would not have the problem. So, they…"

"Certainly, all…" 09600027.doc 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Yes. Certainly. All of that and other things that would come because they have the authority to do certain things that they cannot do now."

"So, they would like this to be… be in place to give them that kind of help."

"There was the point where they raised the question, but they do understand now having been convinced by the department that they need this. At one point they said that we don't… we don't have anything to do with that, but they are now not opposed to the Bill."

"Seeing no one else seeking recognition, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'yes'; opposed vote 'no'. And the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wished? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On House Bill 761, 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. The Bill is declared passed. Mr. Clerk, on page 55 of the Calendar appears House Bill 760. Representative Kosel. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Kosel." 09600027.doc 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"No one seeking recognition. The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' House Bill 760, on that… those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On House Bill 760, 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. This Bill is declared passed. On… Mr. Clerk, on page 55 of the Calendar appears House Bill 751. Representative Ryg. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Ryg."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 751 amends the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Administrative Act, the State Property Control Act and the Community Services Act to require the net proceeds of the sale of the state mental health facility or state developmental disabilities facility would be deposited into the Community Mental Health Medicaid Trust Fund and the Community Developmental Disability Services Medicaid Trust Fund respectfully. Be happy to answer any questions." 09600027.doc 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Thank you, Representative. On House Bill 751, Representative Bellock."

"Thank you. And the Gentleman from Jackson, Representative Bost, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Indicates she will."

"No, this would simply say where the revenues when the closure is det…."

"No, this is intended to direct the revenues from a closure." 09600027.doc 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Not that I'm aware of."

"Well, actually, Representative, this Bill would provide that the Department of Human Services could allocate services to other state-operated centers if there was a need for staffing in maintenance and operations."

Speaker Mautino: "No one else seeking recognition. The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'yes'; opposed vote 'no'. And the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. House Bill 751, having received 111 'yes', 0 'no', 0 voting 'present', is declared passed. Mr. Clerk, on the Calendar, page 52, appears House Bill 159. Representative Mathias. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Mr. Mathias."

"No one seeking recognition on House Bill 159, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'yes'; opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Poe, Representative Burns. Mr. Clerk, take the record. House Bill 159, receiving 77 'yes' votes, 34 'no' votes, and 0 'presents', is declared passed. Mr. Clerk, on page 52 of the Calendar appears House Bill 65. Representative Ford. Read the Bill."

"Representative Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 65 is the State Application Act. This Bill passed last year or last Session and I bring it back so that we can get the passage one more time so we get it signed by the Governor. This Bill removes the question off the application as to whether or not a person has ever been convicted of a nonviolent offense. And I ask for a favorable vote."

"Seeking recognition is the Gentleman from Crawford, Representative Eddy."

"Indicates he will."

"Yes, Representative."

"It passed the previous Session."

"Yes."

"Well, I'm glad you mentioned that because one of the reasons that this Bill comes back in this language and the reason why the Bill that you named, that Bill failed. But your side and other people in this Body recommended that I remove certain things from the Bill and they would support it. And that Bill that passed was 1332. 4612 was a Bill that had veterans' preference in it. I removed veterans' preference and I brought it back in a form that passed in the 95th at the advice of your side and Members on my side." 09600027.doc 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"House… House… House Bill 1332 is the Bill that passed; 4612 is the Bill that failed."

"It failed because Members on your side and Members on my side stated that it had… it was connected with veterans."

"What… what is it in the Bill that you notice about 4612? 4612 was seeking to do what?"

"Well, agreed to by… whom are you saying it was agreed to by?"

"So, how long do you need to make sure of that?"

"I can show you right now."

"So, I… I would love to do that."

"All right. Thank you."

"All right."

"The Bill will be taken out of the record at the request of the Sponsor. Mr. Clerk… Excuse me. For what reason is the Gentleman from Jasper, Representative Reis, seeking recognition? Out of the record. Mr. Clerk, on page 55 of the Calendar appears House Bill 710. Representative Zalewski. Out of the record. On page 53 of the Calendar, Mr. Clerk, House Bill 253. Representative Myers. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Myers."

"No one seeking recognition, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'yes'; opposed vote 'no'. And the voting is now open. Have all voted who 09600027.doc 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Lyons. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On House Bill 253, 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. This Bill shall be declared passed. Mr. Clerk, on page 52 of the Calendar appears House Bill 9. Representative Tracy. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Tracy."

"No one seeking recognition, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 9 pass?' All in favor vote 'yes'; opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. House Bill 9, having received 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', is declared passed. Mr. Clerk, on page 55 of the Calendar appears House Bill 799. Representative Wait. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Wait."

"Seeing no one recogni… seeking recognition, House Bill 799, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. And the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Verschoore. Mr. Clerk, take the record. House Bill 799, having received 111 'yes', 0 'no', 0 voting 'present', shall be declared passed. Mr. Clerk, on page 52 of the Calendar is House Bill 65. Representative Ford. Bill? Or Representative?"

"Okay. I'm ready for the 'yes' votes. We've debated the Bill and the people of Illinois can now benefit from this legislation."

Speaker Mautino: "Members seeking… seeking question, the Gentleman from Crawford, Representative Eddy."

"Indicates he will."

"That's not true. If the State or Federal Law prohibits a person from holding a certain job, then the application can ask the question."

"Well, the question will be moved later in the process, so the question still will be asked."

"I think… I think transparency is great…"

"The Gentleman's asked for some order in the chamber."

"I truly agree with you to a certain degree. We need to have transparency, Representative. We also need to make sure that we reduce the number of prisoners that we have in our prison system. Representative Eddy, did you know that we spend one billion dollars a year to incarcerate people in Illinois and that's due to people recidivating back to the prison system because they are unable to obtain employment?"

"Now, I understand you. Let me… let me really…"

"…answer your question. The question asked… the answer to that question is that sometimes a person may be denied an interview process based on an application."

"Yes."

"If the job…"

"I mean, if it's a nonviolent offense then, it wouldn't be asked."

"If the job disqualifies a person… if the offense disqualifies a person, then the question will be asked on application."

"The law… the Bill does not prohibit from doing criminal background checks."

"Wait, wait. That's what you said."

"You know…"

"You know, this debate could go on forever because I believe some people believe that justice should be served in the State of Illinois and some people believe that justice shouldn't be served. I don't know what side you're on, but I know that everyone should have an opportunity to work. That's all. That's no disrespect to you, but I do believe that some people are shut out of the system called justice."

"Right."

"Your request has been acknowledged."

Speaker Mautino: "It will be granted. The Gentleman from Jackson, Representative Bost."

"He indicates he will."

"Yes."

"Well, you know, I think everything has been taken and blown out of proportion because if you, as an employer at the state, as an employer hires someone without doing a criminal background check, then that's the problem, not the fact that we have a question on the application."

"What I'm trying to do is get more people into an interview."

"How dangerous is an interview?" 09600027.doc 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"You said the magic word, might. They might be considered for employment. They might be considered. That's what we want, the might."

"The best opportunity…"

"First, they would have an interview and they would have a background check, but I'm glad you brought up white collar crimes because the state of our economy, federally and state, had nothing to do with the petty crimes that I'm talking about here. It has something to do with people that were not criminals."

"People that were not criminals."

"So, what we need to do is deal with what I'm dealing with here and it's a simple thing to ask that people in the State of Illinois not be denied their rights."

"Yes. The Gentleman…"

"To the Bill."

"Thank you. Representative Watson, for what reason do you rise?"

Speaker Mautino: "The previous question has been moved. Representative Ford to close."

"Well, thank you very much and I hope that this legislation will allow all of us an opportunity to… to vote for a piece of legislation that will put more people or at least give more people an opportunity to be interviewed for a job. This Bill is simple. We simply want people that may have been convicted of a crime when they were 18 years old, 19 years old and now they're 30 and they still can't get employment simply because they were… made a mistake in life."

"Thank…"

"This Bill is simple. It simply asks that people have an opportunity to go for an interview and once again, it's not the question on an application that we have to worry about; 09600027.doc 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 it's the criminal background check that the state and employers should do to make sure that we hire the right person. So, with that, I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Thank you. There has been a request for a verification on House Bill 65. And with that, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'yes'; opposed vote 'no'. And the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk… Mr. Clerk… Mr. Clerk, take the record. With 46 voting 'yes'… Excuse me. Of 43 voting 'yes', 68 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', the Bill has failed. Representative Verschoore."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A notice of a reception tonight. The IBEW is having a reception from 5 to 9 at… or 5 'til whenever on the 29th floor of the Hilton. They wanted me to let everyone know they're… everyone's welcome and guests. Thank you."

"Representative Ford, for what reason are you requesting?"

"Well, it's… I thought it was perfect, but it's an important Bill to come up on St. Patty's Day. I knew I would get all 'green' votes, but I just wanted to tell everyone that's Irish and everyone here, happy St. Patty's Day and what should I say, Irish forever. It is… Erin Go Bragh. Thank you very much."

"Thank you, Representative. It's now the… the Chair intends to move some Seconds to Thirds. Mr. Clerk, on page 47 of the Calendar appears House Bill 4047. What's the status of this Bill?" 09600027.doc 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Mr… Hold that Bill on Second. So, at the risk… request of the Sponsor, that Bill will be held on Second. Page 9 of the Calendar appears House Bill 489. Representative Hernandez. Read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Representative Lyons in the Chair."

"Happy St. Patrick's Day, everyone. Nice to see you. Members, we're going to be going through the Calendar on Second Readings, alphabetical, as we have in the past. We're going to be doing Second Readings to see if your pleasure is to move it to Third. So, starting with As running through Zs, pay attention and we'll see if you want to move your Bill. Representative Acevedo, on page 15 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 845. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Arroyo, on page 3 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 44. Out of the record. Representative Suzie Bassi, on page 36 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2660. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09600027.doc 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

Speaker Lyons: "Third Reading. Representative Beiser, you have… on page 17 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 952. Dan? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Toni Berrios, on page 18 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 991. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Bob Biggins, on page 49 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 4151. Bob, 4151, you want to move it to Third? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Michael Bost, on page 587… on page 11 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 587, Mike. Representative Bost, House Bill 587. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09600027.doc 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Representative Bost on Amendment #1."

"Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor of the adoption of Amendment #1 signify by saying 'aye'; those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And Amendment #1 is adopted. Anything further, Mr. Clerk?"

"Third Reading. Representative Mike Boland, on page 17 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 934. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Bradley, you have, on page 44 of the Calendar, House Bill 3878. Out of the record. Representative Annazette Collins, are you on the floor? Representative Collins. Annazette, you have, on page 21 of the Calendar, House Bill 1126. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09600027.doc 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Third Reading. Representative Marlow Colvin, on page 9… or page 42 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3806. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Lyons: "Third Reading. Representative Brady, Representative John Brady. Representative Bra… Representative Dan Brady is… Representative Brady on the floor? Out of the record. Representative Brosnahan. Representative Cavaletto, on page 14 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 768. What's your pleasure, Representative? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Will Burns, on page 39 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2383. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Lyons: "Representative, you have a Floor Amendment filed today, so we'll hold that Bill on Second Reading. 09600027.doc 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 Representative Linda Chapa LaVia, on page 39 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3663. You wish to move that Bill to Third Reading? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Coladipietro, you have House Bill 2406 on page 30 of the Calendar. What's your pleasure, Representative? Out of the record. Representative Marlow Colvin, on page 3 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 69, Representative. 69, Representative. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Mike Connelly. Representative Connelly, you have House Bill 883. What's your pleasure? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Beth Coulson, you have House Bill 1143 on page 21 of the Calendar. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Leader Barbara Flynn Currie, on page 38 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3634. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Currie on a Motion."

"Thank you, Speaker. I move to suspend the posting requirements so that House Bill… I'm sorry… House Resolution 172 and House Joint Resolution 33 could be heard in House Elementary; House Bill 974 and House Resolution 163 in Environment & Energy; House Bill 261, 579, 3735, 3783, Senate Bill 2016 and House Resolution 160 in Executive; House Joint Resolutions 23 and 29 in Human Services; House Resolution… House Resolutions 140, 152, 156, 175, 176 and 177 in State Government Administration; House Joint Resolution 30 in the Tollway Oversight Committee."

"Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor of the Lady's Resolution signify by saying 'yes'; those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Motion is adopted. Representative Monique Davis, you have, on page 25 of the Calendar, House Bill 2235. You wish to move that to Third Reading, Representative? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09600027.doc 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Third Reading. Representative Shane Cultra, on page 14 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 764. Out of the record. Representative Jim Durkin, on page 20 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 1116. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Roger Eddy, you have House Bill 999 on page 18 of the Calendar. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Mike Fortner, on page 13 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 722. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Farnham, on page 12 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 706. Representative Farnham on the floor? What's your pleasure on that Bill, Representative? Would you like to move that to Third Reading? House Bill 706. Out of the record. 09600027.doc 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 Representative Sara Feigenholtz, you have, on page 13 of the Calendar, House Bill 745, Sara. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Bob Flider, on page 19 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 1032. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Lyons: "Third Reading. Representative Michael McAuliffe, on page 34 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2582. What's your pleasure, Michael? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Mary Flowers, on page 2 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 16, Mary. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Bill Mitchell, you have, on page 6 of the Calendar, House Bill 268, Bill. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Mitchell, you also have House Bill 367 on page 8 of the Calendar. Representative Bill Mitchell, you've got a second Bill on Second Reading, House Bill 367. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Lyons: "We'll hold that Bill on Second Reading. Representative LaShawn Ford, on page 9 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 436. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Jerry Mitchell, on page 50 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 4206. Out of the record. Representative Jack Franks, on page 43 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3860. Representative Franks, 3860? Out of the record. Representative Froehlich, on page 42 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3802. What's your preference, Representative? Out of the record. Representative Esther Golar, on page 36 of the 09600027.doc 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 Calendar, you have House Bill 2653. Representative Golar on the floor? Take that Bill out of the record. Representative Jim Meyer, on page 21 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 1131. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Graham. Is Debbie on the floor? Representative Graham, you have, on page 5 of the Calendar, House Bill 179. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Julie Hamos, on page 46 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3987, Julie. Representative Hamos, what do you want to do with this Bill? 3987. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Harris, on page 31 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2469, Greg. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Hernandez, on page 46 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3967. Lisa. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Jay Hoffman, you have, on page 35 of the Calendar, House Bill 2612. Jay? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Tom Holbrook, on page 44 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3877. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Connie Howard, on page 14 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 762. You wish to move that Bill to Third Reading? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Representative Jackson, Eddie Jackson on the floor? Representative Jackson, you have, on 09600027.doc 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 page 39 of the Calendar, House Bill 3664. Move… want to move that Bill to Third Reading, Representative? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Mautino on the floor, Frank? Frank, you have House… on page 5 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 212. House Bill 212. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Karen May, on page 30 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2429. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Emily McAsey, you have, on page 39 of the Calendar, House Bill 3681. Emily. 3681, Representative McAsey. Emily. You have a Bill on Second Reading. Do you wish to move this Bill to Third Reading? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Kevin McCarthy, on page 18 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 986, Kevin. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Jack McGuire, on page 16 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 895. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Debbie Mell, you have, on page 34 of the Calendar, House Bill 2574. You wish to move that to Third Reading? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Susana Mendoza, you have, on page 4 of the Calendar, House Bill 152. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Lyons: "We'll hold that Bill on Second Reading. Representative David Miller, on page 31 of the Calendar, 09600027.doc 88  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 you have House Bill 2450. Out of the record. Representative Elaine Nekritz, on page 6 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 242. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Harry Osterman, on page 15 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 867. What's your pleasure, Harry? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Brandon Phelps, on page 26 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2257. Out of the record. Representative Raymond Poe, on page 33 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2535. Raymond. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Bob Pritchard, you have, on page 9 of the Calendar, House Bill 471. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Randy Ramey, on page 44 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3909. You're 09600027.doc 89  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 hard to miss you in that jacket, Representative. I can spot you very easily. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Esther Golar, on page 36 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2653. What's your pleasure, Esther? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Kevin Joyce, on page 21 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 1148. Kevin, 1148. You want to move that to Third? Kevin Joyce, what's your pleasure? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Lou Lang, on page 29 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2400. What's your pleasure, Lou? Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading."

Speaker Lyons: "Sorry, Mr. Clerk. Third Reading. Representative Betsy Hannig, on page 37 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3606. What's your pleasure, Representative? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative David Reis, on page 45 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3956. David, 3956. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Chapin Rose, you have, on page 40 of the Calendar, House Bill 3714, Chapin. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Farnham, you have, on page 12 of the Calendar, House Bill 706. What's your pleasure, Representative? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Will Davis, on page 6 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 267. What's your pleasure, Will? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09600027.doc 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

Speaker Lyons: "Third Reading. Representative Annazette Collins, on page 35 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2627. Annazette, 2627, you wish to move that Bill to Third Reading? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Bob Flider, for what purpose do you seek recognition, Representative?"

"A point of personal privilege, Mr. Speaker."

"Please proceed, Representative."

"Yes. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I have some special guests here today in Springfield here with the House in the gallery behind us on the Republican side. We have the mayor of Windsor, Illinois, Dennis Hostetter and two city council members: Jeff Gannaway and Walter Ratliff. Would you please welcome them here to Springfield."

"Mr. Mayor, aldermen, welcome to Springfield. Enjoy your stay. Glad to have you. Continuing on Second Readings on page 20 of the Calendar, Representative Danny Reitz, you have page 10… you have House Bill 1086. What's your pleasure, Dan? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09600027.doc 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

Speaker Lyons: "Take that Bill out of the record. Representative Al Riley, on page 51 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 4220. Al. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Kathy Ryg, on page 27 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2290. Kath, 2290. You want to move that Bill to Third Reading? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Mike Smith, on page 13 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 737. What's your pleasure, Michael? Out of the record. Representative Tim Schmitz, on page 23 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 1335. What's your pleasure, Tim? House Bill 1335. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Senger, on page 11 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 640, 09600027.doc 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 Representative. Do you wish to move that to Third Reading? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Jil Tracy, on page 6 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 238. Jil, do you want to move that Bill to Third reading? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Mike Tryon, on page 23 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 1322. What's your pleasure, Michael? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Pat Verschoore. Is Pat on the floor? Representative Verschoore, you have, on page 20 of the Calendar, House Bill 1089. Pat, you want to move that to Third Reading? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Ron Wait, you have, on page 14 of the Calendar, House Bill 795. Ron. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Mark Walker, you have House Bill 20… 2394 on page 29 of the Calendar. Representative, want to move that Bill to Third Reading? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Lyons: "Third Reading. Representative Eddie Washington, you have, on page 30 the seventh… 37 of the Calendar, Representative, House Bill 2678. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Jim Watson. Is Jim on the floor? Representative Watson, you have, on page 13 of the Calendar, House Bill 725. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09600027.doc 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Third Reading. Representative Coladipietro, for what reason do you seek recognition, Representative?"

"Please proceed, Representative."

"Despite the red jacket on St. Patrick's Day, happy birthday, Randy. Many happy more. Representative Jim Watson, you also have, on page 16 of the Calendar, House Bill 872. Jim, you want to… wish to move that to Third? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Dave Winters, on page 29 of the… 28 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2328. Dave? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Jim Sacia, on page 45 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3957. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Jim Brosnahan, you have, on page 12 of the Calendar, House Bill 699. Jim, 699. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Page 4 of Second Readings, back through the alphabet. Representative Acevedo on the floor or not at this time? Representative Arroyo. Representative Luis Arroyo, you have, on page 2 of the Calendar, House Bill 13. Out of the record. Skip, Representative Saviano, you have, on Second Reading, on page 18 of the Calendar, House Bill 1015. Care to move that Bill? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Dan Burke, on page 16 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 921. Do you care to move that to Third Reading, Representative? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09600027.doc 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Third Reading. Representative Suzie Bassi, on page 44 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3911. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Lyons: "Third Reading. Representative Biggins. Representative Mike Boland, on page 23 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 1332. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Jim Brosnahan, on page 8 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 382. Jim Brosnahan. 382, Jim. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Rich Brauer, on page 27 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2321. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Dan Burke, on page 17 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 923, Dan. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Will Burns, on page 43 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3863. Representative Burns on the floor? Will. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Watson, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

Speaker Lyons: "Representative Burns, as in Will Burns, question on the… on the Bill. The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, regarding House Bill 3863, Representative Will Burns on a point of order from the Republicans on holding of that Bill. Representative Burns."

"Thank you, Representative. As I recall, I didn't make a commitment to hold the Bill on Second Reading in committee. I did make a commitment to work to find another Amendment. I wanted to just move it to Third Reading. If we come up with an agreement, then we'll move… we'll call it back to the Order of Second Reading. If we come up with 09600027.doc 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 some language to amend the Bill, we'll move it back to the Order of Second Reading and amend it. But I didn't make a commitment to hold it on Second Reading in committee."

"If it would… if it would add to your comfort level…"

"…I'm willing to do that."

"So, Representative Burns, it's your wish to move that Bill back…"

"Yeah. We'll move it back to Second."

"…to Second Reading? Mr. Clerk, move House Bill 3863 back to Second Reading. Thank you. Representative Annazette Collins, on page 42 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3795. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Leader Barbara Flynn Currie, on page 32 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 29… 2494. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. 2494."

"Third Reading. Representative John D’Amico, on page 46 of the Calendar, we have House Bill 3982. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative D’Amico on…"

"…Floor Amendment #1."

"Are there any questions? Seeing none, the question is, 'Should Amendment #1 to House Bill 3982 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'yes'; those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Anything further, Mr. Clerk?"

"Third Reading. Representative Will Davis, on page 50 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 4186. Will, 4186. Out of the record. Representative Roger Eddy, on page 35 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2619. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Farnham, on page 38 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3637. Representative Farnham on the floor? Take that Bill out of the record. Representative Sara Feigenholtz, on page 13 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 756. Sara. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Bob Flider, you have, on page 41 of the Calendar, House Bill 3779. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Hatcher, on page 27 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2294. Representative, do you wish to move that to Third Reading? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Hatcher, also on page 27 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2296. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Renée Kosel, hiding behind your computer, you have, on page 41 of the Calendar, House Bill 3723. Renée. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Renée, you also have on page 48 House Bill 4050. Representative Kosel on 4050. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative David Leitch, you have, on page 37 of the Calendar, House Bill 2688. David. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Mary Flowers, you have, on page 2 of the Calendar, House Bill 19. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Sid Mathias, on page 41 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3731. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Jack Franks, on page 7 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 272. Out of the record. Representative Esther Golar, on page 12 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 655. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Julie Hamos, on page 42 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3794. 3794. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Jay Hoffman, on page 39 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3658. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09600027.doc 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Third Reading. Representative Tom Holbrook, on page 33 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2527. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Connie Howard, on page 34 of the Calendar, you House Bill 2541. Out of the record. Representative Naomi Jakobsson, on page 16 of the Calendar is House Bill 898. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Kevin Joyce, on page 47 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 4046. Out of the record. Representative Don Moffitt, on page 34 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2544. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Rich Myers, on page 31, you have House Bill 2455. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09600027.doc 105  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Third Reading. Representative Raymond Poe, on page 18 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 1002. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Poe on the Amendment. Amendment 1, Raymond."

Speaker Lyons: "Are there any questions of the Sponsor on Amendment #1? Seeing none, all… for… in favor of the adoption signify by saying 'yes'; those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And Amendment #1 is adopted. Anything further, Mr. Clerk?"

"Third Reading. Representative… Representative Sid Mathias, you have, on page 41 of the Calendar, House Bill 3731. 3731, Sid. It's on Third Reading, my 09600027.doc 106  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 apologies, Representative. Representative Michael McAuliffe, on page 50 of the Calendar, we have 4197. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Lyons: "Third Reading. Representative Michael Zalewski, on page 11 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 596, Michael. Third… Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Zalewski, you also have House Bill 594 on page 11 of the Calendar. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Jakobsson, you have, on page 48 of the Calendar, House Bill 4077. Naomi, 4077. You wish to move that to Third? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Lisa Hernandez, on page 29 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3286. Do you wish to move that Bill to Third Reading, Representative? 3286. I'm sorry, wrong number. The House Bill number should be 2386. My apologies, Representative. House Bill 2386. Out of the record. Representative Greg Harris, on page 43 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3845. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Farnham, on page 38 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3637. Representative Farnham, House Bill 3637, you wish to move that to Third Reading? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Soto, on page 46 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3974, 3974. Do you wish to move that Bill to Third Reading? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Bob Biggins, on page 48 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 4099. Do you wish to move that to Third Reading, Representative? 4099. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Connie Howard, on page 34 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2541 on the Order of Second Reading. You wish to move that Bill? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Frank Mautino, on page 56 of the Calendar under Third Readings, you have House Bill 813. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Lyons: "Recognize the Gentleman from Bureau, Representative Frank Mautino."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. 813 amends the Optometric Practice Act and the Elder Abuse and Neglect Act. This is legislation which passed through unanimously last year and basically made it a requirement for the optometrist to report not only child 09600027.doc 109  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 abuse but also elder abuse. I know of no opposition. And would appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Is there any discussion? Seeing none, the question is, 'Should House Bill 813 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Sara. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 111 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Jim Watson, for what purpose do you seek recognition, Representative?"

Speaker Lyons: "The record will so reflect. Thank you, Representative Watson. Representative Don Moffitt, on page 54 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 665. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Gentleman from Knox, Representative Don Moffitt."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Lake, Representative Ed Sullivan."

"Representative Moffitt to close."

"The question is, 'Should House Bill 665 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mike 09600027.doc 111  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 Fortner. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 85 Members voting 'yes', 26 Members voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Dan Beiser, on page 53 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 519. Out of the record. Representative Fortner, on page 55 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 808. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Michael Fortner."

"Is there any discussion? Seeing none, the question is, 'Should House Bill 808 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Feigenholtz, Representative Burns. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 111 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional 09600027.doc 112  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative John D'Amico, on the Order of Third Reading, you have… on page 54 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 675. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative John D’Amico."

Speaker Lyons: "Any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Dennis Reboletti."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative D’Amico to close."

"The question is, 'Should House Bill 675 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 111 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Marlow Colvin, on page 52 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 146. On the Order of Third Reading, you ready to run the Bill, Representative? 146, House Bill 146. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Marlow Colvin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I have for your consideration today House Bill 146. This Bill is an initiative of the Cook County Law Library System which is the second largest library system… law library system in the United States of America. But it's a Bill that impacts every law library in every court… Circuit Court system in the state. It simply allows county boards which is through permission of the county boards to raise the fees, the filing fees, that pay for the maintenance of county law libraries. The last time the fees were raised at the county law library in Cook was 1988. And it's an enormous burden on the county budget to fund those libraries in addition to everything else that they do. They primarily fund the county law libraries across the State of Illinois using these fees, these filing fees. We testified in committee and the Bill is supported by the County Law Library Associations, Metro Counties, Illinois Association of County Board Members and Commissioners. There was no opposition in committee. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Are there any questions? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative… from McHenry, Representative Jack Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, we saw this Bill last year or something similar. What happened to it?" 09600027.doc 115  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"The Bill passed out of both… out of the House and the Senate. It went to the Governor where he vetoed the Bill. It actually and during the… the Bill wasn't called during the Veto Session as much… I think it was called in the Senate first where it originated last year. During one of the summer Veto, 'Veto' Sessions and then there was never a time that and I think a number of the individuals who voted for it was missing during that day, but you only get two more weeks to call it again and we didn't come back until November. So, the Bill eventually… it subsequently died."

"You indicated that Cook County has the second largest law library in the nation. Do we know how many patrons use the law library? Do we have any figures?"

"I don't have them at my fingertips, but I understand that it is the most used, it's the second largest by volume, but it is the most used by virtue of the hours that it's open. I believe it's open from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. and I think from 9 to 4 on Saturdays. But not only do lawyers use it as a free resource, but it's also an invaluable tool to law students who use the law library while they're matriculating through law school. And anyone who is… the library is open to the public, so anyone can come in and use any of its volumes at any time that the library is open."

"Why… I know they have a good reputation and I know they do a lot of hours. I'm just wondering how many actual people really use it because if we pass this Bill, we'll be increasing the fees by almost 50 percent for the law 09600027.doc 116  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 library, for these filing fees and it'll be over 50 percent by 2010."

"Well, Representative Franks, I should point out that where you see the increases, the county… this just raises the threshold for them to raise the fees. This Bill, in no way does it stipulate that the fees will be set at these marks, that this is simply a ceiling in which they can raise the fees. So, in that regard, it is to say that they'll be raised by 50 percent is not true. I don't even think it's the… and I don't want to speak for the county… but and you can certainly speak to their lobbyist here, but I don't think it's their intention to raise the fees to these ceilings. What this does is create room for them to raise fees…"

"Let me ask you. Is Cook County at the ceiling, right now?"

"They've been at the ceiling for more than 16 years."

"And we did this 20 years ago?"

"That's about right."

"Okay. Do you know how many other counties are already at the ceiling?"

"I do not know that but…"

"Inaudible."

"…but given the testimony in committee when this Bill was heard, at least from the Metro Counties and the County Law Library Associations, I think all of them are suffering under the same pressure."

"Okay. To the Bill. And I appreciate what you're trying to do, Representative. Believe me, I know how 09600027.doc 117  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 important it is to access to the courts and knowing what the… what the law is, whether you're an attorney or a layman. What I am concerned though about is the ability to raise these fees so high at a time when, quite frankly, a lot of folks aren't doing real well. And we had an unemployment rate now in the state is over 8 percent. I know in Winnebago County it's over 12 percent. That scares me and I don't want to do anything that could impinge on access to our court system. And I think right now it's pretty expensive when you… when you file a lawsuit and then you have all these additional fees put on and it not only affects individuals, but also affects small businesses. So, as a result, I'm going to vote 'no' and I'm going to encourage people to study this to see if that's really the policy that we wish to have as a state is to increase these fees and potentially make it more difficult for people to access justice. So…"

Speaker Lyons: "The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Crawford, Representative Roger Eddy."

"Sponsor yields."

"Repeat that question again?"

"I believe that this provision falls under the County Code and it requires… it specifically requires legislative approval to raise this specific fee. So, I believe that to be able to raise the ceiling for this, for the filing fees, is specifically part of the County Code which requires an Amendment in the County Code to do so."

"No, it would not. The Home Rule authority does not impact… would… does not give them the authority to arbitrarily raise this fee."

"In testimony in committee, the director of the county law library indicated the fact that these are ceilings and it is not the intention of the county and the other counties that were there that testified, it was not their intention to raise it to the ceiling, but to create some more breathing room in regards to the mounting pressures of running these law libraries. It's important to point out that we don't try to change it, I think, what the scope of these filing fees are. These are fees that are paid when lawyers file suit in different counties. It is, to raise the fees, what we're giving them is the authority to take a vote at the county board level to increase the fees. This 09600027.doc 119  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 Bill, in and of itself, does not raise the filing fees of any county. If this Bill passes, county boards would then have the… they would be given the authority to negotiate and discuss and vote on a potential fee increase for filing at… at the County Clerk's Office."

"I'm sorry?"

"What I'm saying… No, that's not what I'm saying."

"What I'm saying this is a filing fee at the current… these are fees that are paid at the County Clerk's Office in Circuit Court districts throughout the State of Illinois."

"That's exactly right."

Speaker Lyons: "The Gentleman from Lake, Representative Ed Sullivan." 09600027.doc 120  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Lou Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of the Gentleman's Bill. I have to say that I have been a person on the floor of this House that has been opposed to increases and costs at the courthouse. I think it has kept people out of the courthouse. I think it's been not good for litigants. I think it… anything that puts a burden on people that want to use our court facility is not a good program; however, the difference here is that the Gentleman isn't putting that burden on the court system, he's giving the county board the option of doing it themselves. Some of you are going to vote against this because the word 09600027.doc 121  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 'tax' is in it or the word 'fee' is in it, but the fact is that some of you who will say that are also people who talk about local control. You'll say it over and over again: local control, local control, local control, until you come across something that sounds political then you're not so much interested in local control, you're interested in General Assembly control. The Gentleman has a Bill that would give county boards all over the state the option of doing what it is that they want to do. It does not add a tax. You would not be voting to add a tax. You'd be voting for what you've always claimed you are for, local control of local affairs. And so, while… if I was on the county board, I may vote against these library fee increases. The Gentleman makes a good point. To give county boards all over the state the option of doing what they want to do, for us to stand in the way of that would be irresponsible."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Rosemary Mulligan."

"Sponsor yields."

"They don't charge anything to use the law library unless you use one of the specific services like LexisNexus or… I'm not a lawyer, but I know there are several services like that."

"That's incorrect information. If… anyone, any citizen can use the law library just as easy as you can use the law library… the regular library in your community."

"That's not what I said. I said they can use the regular public library as easy as they can use the county law library."

"To enter into the law library?"

"No, there is no fee."

"Those individuals who are filing suit in a particular county."

"Well, I can't speak for every county, but I do know in Cook County they have provisions for paupers, I believe that's the phrase they actually use. I couldn't tell… I don't have a list of what they charge for filing what types of lawsuits or what type of actions, but I do know that 09600027.doc 123  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 part of that fee, just like another part of it is to maintain the courtrooms, part of that fee goes to maintaining those law libraries."

"But I can't give you a sheet with all the fees on it."

"The county… the county… Cook County, which I can speak for specifically, already provides for pauper assistance when they are… as for specific types of suits that are filed in Cook County Circuit Court. I don't know what type of suits those are, but I know one for certain is the… for the lawsuits that are under a specific dollar amount, small claims court."

"Representative Colvin to close."

"And I should also point out, Representative Mulligan, that these are for civil cases. There will be no filing fee for an individual who is filing for an order of protection or what have you. Those require no filing fees at all. I would… All right."

"Representative Colvin to close."

"I do appreciate the comments. All of the comments on both sides of this discussion. I think Representative Franks, and to his point, I think tried to change literally 09600027.doc 124  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 the discussion in terms of what we're talking about here. This is completely permissive by county. Every individual county this still does nothing more than give an individual county the authority to discuss, debate and determine what if any fee increases will be in their law libraries. Is… We are not raising one nickel of any fee for any law library in the State of Illinois. That's important to point out. I think Representative Sullivan and Representative Lang hit the nail on the head in terms of what local control is and the proper application of a user fee. These are fees that are paid in part, not the entire dollar amount, but in part, go to fund law libraries so that they maintain at least in Cook County, the second largest law library system in the country, to maintain the fact that anyone can use, lawyer or nonlawyer, can use the resources that those law libraries provide. Law students have traditionally used the Cook County Law Libraries from all over the collar county region simply because of their vast resources, but that comes with a cost. And we're simply saying that counties will now have the ability to help reach and meet those costs of maintaining those law libraries and the assistance they provide to their taxpayers. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Should House Bill 146 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Feigenholtz, Verschoore. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 70 Members voting 09600027.doc 125  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009 'yes', 40 Members voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Dennis Reboletti, you rise for a point of personal…"

"Welcome to Springfield. The Chair recognizes Representative Dan Burke for an announcement. Representative Burke."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The Executive Committee will meet tomorrow in Room 114 at 8:30 to consider only one matter. All other matters that have been referred to Exec will be heard on Thursday. So, 114, tomorrow, 8:30, Exec. Thanks."

Speaker Lyons: "The Chair recognized the Lady from Lake, Representative JoAnn Osmond for an announcement."

"The Chair recognize the Gentleman from Cook, Representative David Miller."

"Thank you, Mr… thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Democrats will caucus in 114 immediately after Session for a joint caucus." 09600027.doc 126  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

"Mr. Clerk, committee schedule."

"Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

"Representative Currie moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All those in favor signify by saying 'yes'; those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Representative Pritchard, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Proceed, Representative." 09600027.doc 127  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 27th Legislative Day 3/17/2009

Speaker Lyons: "The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Crawford, Representative Roger Eddy."

"State your inquiry."

"Representative Eddy, you are correct. At… stay tuned, stay close to the committee rooms. We will be in caucus. We don't know how long it will take. We're… our hope will be as close to 5:00 as possible."

Speaker Lyons: "Ladies and Gentlemen, the purpose of our special announcement on a Death Resolution of… Staff, we're asked to please report to the back of the chamber. Members please be at your desks. The Chair recognizes Representative Jim Sacia."

Speaker Lyons: "May he rest in peace. And now, allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk, Representative Barbara Flynn Currie moves that the House stand adjourned 'til the hour of 10 a.m. tomorrow, Wednesday, March 18. All those in favor signify by saying 'yes'; those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the House stands adjourned 'til the hour of 10 a.m. on Wednesday, March 18. Democratic Members down to Room 114, as soon as you can get there. Republican Members for committee, we'll get there as soon as we can, but stay tuned."