Illinois House Floor Debate — March 26, 2009

"Good morning, Illinois. The Illinois House of Representatives is about to come to order. Members are asked to please be at their desks. We shall be led in prayer today by senior minister Tommy Henegar, who is the pastor of the First Christian Church of Centralia in Centralia, Illinois. Reverend Henegar is the guest of Rev… Representative Cavaletto. Members and guests are asked to please refrain from starting their laptops and turn off their cell phones and pagers, and all in the gallery or the guests are asked to join us in rising for the invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance. Reverend Henegar."

"We'll be led in the Pledge by Representative Keith Farnham."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Leader Barbara Flynn Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record reflect the excused absence of Representative Careen Gordon."

"Representative Michael Bost, the GOP."

"Mr. Clerk, take the record. There are 116 Members present; we have a quorum and prepared to do the work of the peoples' business. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Bob Pritchard, for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"

"Please proceed, Representative."

"Thank you, Rochelle Township High, enjoy your day. We're proud to have you. The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Jasper, Representative David Reis. For what purpose do you seek recognition, Representative?"

"Please proceed."

"Welcome, enjoy your day, glad to have you. Ladies and Gentlemen, I'll start with a list that, of course, that staff has given us from the Democrats and Republicans, alphabetical. Most of them are Third Reading, so I'll call out your name and the page number as we call the Bill. Representative Acevedo, not here. Representative Arroyo, not here. Representative Jim Brosnahan, on page 35 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 382. Call the Bill. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Jim Brosnahan."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill attempts to address the nursing shortage and we're trying to do this by increasing the number of nurse educators in the State of Illinois. Under this proposal, the Department of Public Health will offer scholarships for individuals who agree to be nurse educators in the State of Illinois. The selected recipients must practice for two years in the state for every year that they received a scholarship. The potential nurse educator must be a resident of the State of Illinois for at least a year before applying and must also be enrolled in a graduate degree in the nursing program at an 09600033.doc 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 institution in the state that is approved by the Department of Financial and Professional Regulation. Another part of this Bill also started in fiscal year 2010, $2 million of the money is deposited in the Nursing Dedicated and Professional Fund must be set aside for nurse scholarships through the department. Currently, 1.2 million is currently required. So, it's very important to note that this money all comes from the Nursing Dedicated Fund which is actually paid by the nurses for their licenses and fees. The Illinois Nurses Association has worked with me on this… this Bill the last two years. They are in support of this legislation, are proponents. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"You've all heard the explanation of House Bill 382. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, the question is, 'Should House Bill 382 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Coulson, Representative Pihos, would you like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 116 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Rich Brauer, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Please proceed, Representative."

"Morgan, welcome to Springfield. It's an honor to have you. Representative Annazette Collins, on page 38 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 1126. Out of the record. Representative Fred Crespo, on page 36 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 624. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Lyons: "Recognize the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Fred Crespo."

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 624 deals with the Employer Training Investment Program, also known as ETIP, which is administered by DCEO. The purpose of this Bill is to protect employers from possible ID theft. The Bill simply gives employers an option to either submit the list of employees and Social Security numbers or a signed legal affidavit verifying that those receiving the training are eligible for the training. It also provides DCEO with the ability to audit the companies using this method. There's no opposition. This Bill passed unanimously last year as House Bill 4470, but 09600033.doc 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 because of the rulemaking Amendment, it didn't move forward."

Speaker Lyons: "The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Bill Black."

"Sponsor yields."

"It's… it's the same thing that's always been. Nothing has changed. Whatever the requirements were before, the requirements are the same. Oh, that's… that's the intent, Representative."

"Okay."

"Speaker, if I may…"

"…pull it off the record and discuss it." 09600033.doc 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Mr. Clerk, on the request of the Sponsor, take that Bill out of the record. Mr. Clerk, House Resolution 210. The clair recog… the Chair recognizes the Lady from DuPage, Representative Sandy Pihos."

"Thank you, Lincoln Foundation. Thank you, Representative Pihos. The Motion is, 'Should House Resolution 210 be adopted?' And I do believe before we adopt that Resolution we're going to recognize the Gentleman from Marion, Representative John Cavaletto. Representative Cavaletto."

"Please proceed."

"Representative Jakobsson, are you… The Motion is by Representative Cavaletto and Representative Pihos the adoption of House Resolution 210. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye'; those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And House Resolution 210 is unanimously adopted. And again, congratulations, Lincoln Foundation. The Chair recognizes Representative Jakobsson. For what purpose to you seek recognition, Representative?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in a point of personal privilege. I wanted to speak to House Resolution 210, also, regarding the Sarah Bush Lincoln Health System. They are the 2008 Lincoln Silver recipient. Sarah Bush Lincoln Health System is a regional hospital located in east central Illinois including 1500… employing 1550 people. In addition, the health system has outreach services including clinics staffed by physicians and mid- level providers, home health, hospice and homemaker services, durable medical equipment company and lab services in 20 counties. Their key strengths are in physician and employee recruitment, clinical quality, and strong fiscal performance. They've made great stride in improving patient experience and clinical outcomes, through their journey of excellence, a way of life. Through this, employees and volunteers are better aligned with the health 09600033.doc 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 system's mission and strategic goals. I'd like to recognize Sarah Bush Lincoln Health System. Thank you."

Speaker Lyons: "Thank you, Representative Jakobsson. Representative Crespo, I do believe you are back to… ready and prepared on House Res… on House Bill 624. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 624. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Crespo."

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. This Bill that we had discussed a little while ago. I had a chance to meet with Representative Black and we’ve clarified some of his concerns, so we're ready to move forward, unless you have any other questions."

"Representative Bill Black."

"The question is, 'Should House Bill 624 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? 09600033.doc 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 Representative Bob Biggins. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 116 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Black, on page 38 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 862. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Lyons: "The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Bill Black."

"State your inquiry, Sir."

"Mr. Clerk?"

"So, Representative, do you wish to move that Bill back to Second Reading?"

"So, for purpose of the Amendment, we… so, we…"

Speaker Lyons: "Mr. Clerk, move that Bill back to Second Reading for the purpose of adopting the Amendment. Representative Jim Durkin, you have, on page 38 of the Calendar, House Bill 1116. Out of the record. Leader Barbara Flynn Currie, you have, on page 41 of the Calendar, House Bill 4088. Is it your intention, Representative, to move that back to Second Reading for the purpose of an Amendment? Mr. Clerk, move that Bill back to Second Reading at the request of the Sponsor. Representative Jim Sacia, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Please proceed, Representative."

Speaker Lyons: "Welcome to Springfield, enjoy your day. Representative Rich Myers, for what purpose do you seek recognition, Representative?"

Speaker Lyons: "Welcome to Springfield, enjoy the day. Representative Jack Franks, on page 35 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 272. Representative Franks. 09600033.doc 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 Representative, put the phone down. Do you want to run 272, Representative? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Lyons: "The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from McHenry, Representative Jack Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a Bill that came to me; it's an interesting story. I had a chance to meet with Chicago Bear legend Dick Butkus last year and he told me that his big priority was dealing with the problems with steroid abuse in high school, with high school athletes and student-athletes. And he… and he hooked me up with a gentleman by the name of Don Hooton and Don had lost his son, Taylor, to the abuse of steroids. And Mr. Hooton, to his credit, worked hard to put in laws in other states that would require student-athletes to be randomly tested for steroids and what he's found is that this has worked terrifically. The pilot program was done in Texas and as you know, football is a religion in Texas and many of the students who had taken surveys before had admitted that many of them had taken steroids or knew of people who had. Since they've instituted this law in Texas, the amount of students who have been tested positive has been much below the national average. So, what we'd like to do is help protect our students, our student-athletes, and keep them healthy for the future. And this Bill would require that there be random steroid testing for student-athletes throughout the season and would be paid for by fines… extra fines on drug-related convictions and this would be run by 09600033.doc 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 the IHSA which has agreed to do so. I'd be happy to answer any questions and there's no opposition to the Bill."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative John Fritchey."

"Thank you, Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Jack, if you… just tell me a little bit about the scope of this testing then. So, it's going to be, I'm going to assume, surprise testing, unannounced…"

"Right."

"…random tests. Will they be testing solely for steroids?"

"Yes. Oh, I'm sorry. And other performance enhancing… we're going to use the list that are under the NCAA guidelines, which is a comprehensive list."

"But is that solely… I guess what… when you start to worry about is almost a Fourth Amendment issue here and you know, through the backdoor, require and consent to, you know, blood testing or DNA testing or whatever it may be then, you know, they may be testing for steroids and they wind up coming up with something else. You know, is that student then subject to…"

"Well, we have certain requirements right now. Under a State Law, that you and I voted for a few years ago, there are some student-athletes that are tested, but they're only tested during the playoffs. This would expand the scope of the time and the amount of the athletes, as well as the schools. So, the… it would let all kids… all student- 09600033.doc 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 athletes know that they’re subject to this, which I think would be a higher deterrent."

"And if a student refused the… refused to participate, they'd lose eligibility?"

"I think so, yes, they would."

"If a student tests positive, is the school either athletically or as an institution subject to sanction?"

"Yes, they are. And we heard this testimony in committee from the IHSA. Certainly, the student would be, but then it would be up to, I think, the IHSA to determine whether the team would be, as well and the example that was given in committee from IHSA was that if it was game altering, I guess, if the individual who tested positive was the star running back and got five touchdowns, it would certainly affect that… that team, but if the person, you know, came in for one play on kickoff coverage, the team wouldn't be affected and that was how we were dis…"

"Well, but… but I guess the concern that you have is, you know, let's say you've got a football team that suits up dozens of players. Unbeknownst to the school, the coach, the other players, you know, they've got an offensive tackle that has been on steroids."

"Right."

"Nobody knew and let's say this team continues to go on and they win the state championship. I mean, somebody can debate how integral an offensive tackle is at any point in time, but all of a sudden, do you run the risk of the team and these other students who did nothing wrong who play by the rules, you know, being stripped of a title for 09600033.doc 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 something that they had no involvement in, had no wrongdoing, had no knowledge of."

"Well, that's on a case-by-case basis, as you said. I mean, right now, we have something to that affect, but it's only during the playoffs, because it would be the same penalties that are given out now, if a student would test positive during the playoffs. But this also has an additional component, this Bill. There's going to be an education component where the coaches will complete an association developed exam so they can help spot it and it'd be and it'd be… part of, I'm sorry, an educational program. So, I think, this is really going to be focusing on the prevention."

"All right. Thank you."

Speaker Lyons: "The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook, Representative Rosemary Mulligan."

"Sponsor yields."

"You're a hundred percent correct and everything you've said is correct and that will be covered in the Bill. The schools will be provided with that information. And this is really an educational component, as well, of the dangers and also it's worked in other states in the sense that the positive findings of steroid use has plummeted in those states that are… that are doing this."

"But we're doing it now, as you know, in a more limited way and we would continue to do it the same way, where the… it would be the student, the coach and the school administrator who would be aware and that would be it."

"It may be, but we're doing it now. I'm not changing that at all."

"No, it's for everybody."

"It's… it's for… it's for all student-athletes and there is complete confidentiality to allay any of your concerns."

“Thank you.”

Speaker Lyons: "The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Crawford, Representative Roger Eddy."

"Sponsor yields."

"It is, with an additional education component."

Speaker Lyons: "The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook, Representative Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Will the Sponsor… Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor's…" Davis, M.: "Okay."

"…waiting for your questions, Representative." Davis, M.: "Exactly what tests will be given to the athletes?"

"It's a urinalysis and they would be tested for any banned substances which is on the NCAA list." Davis, M.: "And when would this testing occur?"

"It would be random; that's the whole point. It would… it would be during the sports season or during the preparation for that sports season, but no one is going to tell the student-athletes when it may occur or what school it may occur in, because right now we have a limited ability to do so during the school playoffs, for those teams that are in the playoffs. But this would be for up to 25… no, at least 25 percent of our schools statewide at any time during the academic year dealing with the… with that particular school's sport." 09600033.doc 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 Davis, M.: "Is there any way that you can prevent, say, one particular school being tested all the time and perhaps some others never being tested?"

"Well, the intent is for that never to happen. I mean, we want to make sure that it's fair and that it's random. And the IHSA will be administering this and we'll certainly speak with them about that. I don't have any reason to believe that they would be trying to single out any school." Davis, M.: "Is that the same group that waited until the last day to tell one group that you have on a uniform whose stripe is too wide?"

"I don't know. I don't know if it is or not." Davis, M.: "Okay. I support your Bill. I do have a big… I have a concern in reference to the fairness to make sure the tests are done, even though they're random, but they're done equally across the board and not just pick those who constantly win."

"That's a good… Well, I'll have you talk to IHSA. We'll help you… we'll have you talk to them about putting in the rules." Davis, M.: "I would appreciate that because I would like to know why they waited 'til the very last day of one of the games to say to a group, your… the stripe is too wide on your uniform and they took a point away from them and they lost."

"Wow." Davis, M.: "I think it was Waukegan."

"I didn't know that. I'd ask that question too." 09600033.doc 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 Davis, M.: "Thank you very much."

"Thank you." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Sir."

"Thank you."

"Representative Franks to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want… I want to thank my fellow Members for… for their help on this Bill. And Mr. Eddy, thank you very much. And also staff, Jay Curtis did a great job getting this done. This was a very comprehensive, difficult Bill to draft. The money aspect where… that was Jay's idea… and this is… this money will act… by the people who are convicted of drug offenses funding this, it will actually save IHSA hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. So, this is going to take care of a lot of things. I also want to let you know that since Major League Baseball has begun an enhanced steroid testing program, there's just been a handful of players who have tested positive and simultaneously, just using last year, the number of home runs in 2008 dropped to its lowest level since 1993. So, I think there is a real benefit in this deterrence factor and I think this is a Bill that we can all be proud of supporting. And I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Should House Bill 272 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 116 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received 09600033.doc 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Lyons: "Ladies and Gentlemen, if I could get your attention for a moment. Everybody was handed the House Bulletin today, on the goldenrod paper, in the middle of 09600033.doc 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 that under the topic of information we are in the process of putting together the Agreed Bill List 2. So, on there, you've also been notified that you've been given a tan sheet with your Bills that will be eligible for consideration for the Agreed Bill List which is going to be your obligation to make sure, if you have Amendments pending on those Bills, that you get those clarified today. The deadline for getting that up to the podium here to Mr. Mapes is 3:00. So, we've got about four or five hours to get your house in order, personally, for whatever Bills you want considered for the next Agreed Bill List which will be looked at by Democratic and Republican staff over the weekend and be presented most likely next Tuesday or Wednesday. So, please, attention all of you, get your Bills for consideration on the brown sheets up to the podium at your earliest convenience. Thank you. Representative Sid Mathias, on page 37 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 715. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Lake, Representative Sid Mathias."

"And the Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Paul Froehlich."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm happy to join with Representative Mathias on his Bill. It's identical to my House Bill 663. And as he said, this tax is extremely unpopular in northwest Cook County. I went door to door and collected over 1200 signatures of voters in my district supporting this Bill to roll back this onerous tax. People in my district feel that paying the highest sales tax in the country to support a bloated system rife with patronage and waste is a bad policy. And I think the Tribune put it well last year when they said throwing more tax money at Cook County is a proven recipe for yesterday's failure at tomorrow's higher price. Until Cook County streamlines its system, consolidates agencies, modernizes it, brings in reform to control their costs, people should not be forced to pay the highest sales tax in the country. It… I… My district, my Cook County part of my district, is near the DuPage County line. People are voting with their feet, not spending money in the Cook County part of the district, so they can save on the sales tax. That does hurt local businesses. It encourages people to drive farther and waste gasoline and it's a poor policy. If we roll this back, we're going to force Cook County to have to come to grips with living within their means. So, I strongly support this Bill and encourage my colleagues to do so as well. Thank you."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Ken Dunkin." 09600033.doc 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, I'm just curious, have we… are there other counties in the State of Illinois that has had their taxes repealed at the state level?"

"So, what precedent would this type of Bill, this measure, have on county governments or municipalities, for that matter?"

"And so, why do you think Cook County has that exception?"

"So, do you have any idea what the fiscal impact is or would be on their county… on the county budget of Cook County, if we were to repeal this tax?"

"So, Representative, if we were to pass this measure successfully, what… what would be… what is the fiscal impact… what would be the fiscal impact on the county of Cook, immediately?"

"What is the county's budget, Representative? What's their annual budget?"

"Okay. So, you're estimating, you're not certain, that you… but you think it will be about $237 million."

"Where are you getting that number from, Representative?"

"Okay. Do you have any idea what the fiscal impact would be on the health care system in Cook County?"

"So, you don't know what the exact cost or an estimated cost of the health care system in Cook County and what the fiscal impact would be on the population?"

"Representative Dunkin, your time has expired. If you could bring your question to a close, I'd appreciate it."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, to the Bill. This is a very unprecedented move for a major county, a Home Rule county, that has elected responsibly individuals, 17 individuals to make decisions that have a real and effective impact on their local county. And for us to be down here trying to restrict local government and their ability whether do they want to raise taxes or not or make decisions, make cuts, or make additions, is something that we don't want to set precedent for. We have to… we probably may have to raise taxes here. Now, would we want the Federal Government to tell or dictate to us whether we have the ability or the right to administer or come up with legislation as we see fit that benefits the State of Illinois? I think not. And for us 09600033.doc 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 to tell a major county, such as Cook County, what they should and should not be doing, because even though they're much closer at that local level than we are as a State Government is a bad precedent. I think we should restrict or limit ourselves in interfering with local government. We should let… allow local leaders who are elected by the people, as we were, make those decisions at the local level and we should not be here trying to truncate or shorten their responsibility at the local level. I think it is irresponsible for us to do that at the county level and I would encourage Members on this chamber, on this floor, to vote 'no'."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Rock Island, Representative Mike Boland."

"Thank… thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a great respect for, not only the Sponsor, but all of the Sponsors up there. I appreciate what they're trying to do for their areas, but the only problem is, we are a State Legislature and if we're going to do a tax relief Bill, which I greatly wish we would do and have a couple of great Bills providing property tax relief for disabled people, letting them come under the tax assessment freeze, helping our disabled veterans to qualify for the tax assessment freeze, you know. So, I think it's wonderful what they're doing for their area, but the problem is the rest of us in the rest of the state, we have tax problems as well and especially, property tax. Property tax in my region and in my own case are outrageous. You know, for some of us in our area, we're paying up to $8 thousand and more than that, in some 09600033.doc 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 instances, in property tax. And so, there is a great need for tax relief for the whole state. I would recommend that we, instead of passing a special area tax relief, that we instead put together a comprehensive tax relief program that would include property tax relief, especially for downstate and suburban areas outside of Cook County which are really having a terrible time with this recession. Folks are suffering. They need to keep their homes. Sales tax is a hated tax; it's a very bad tax, but the only thing is, you can pay sales tax, you know, if you've got a job, but if you don't have a job, you can lose your home due to property tax. So, unfortunately, although I'd like to help my friends in Cook County here who are sponsoring this, instead I'm going to have to vote against it and hope that we can get a comprehensive statewide tax relief program that helps to freeze the taxes of those citizens who are disabled and especially our disabled veterans. Thank you."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Michael McAuliffe."

"Sponsor yields."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Will Burns. Representative Will Burns."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. As a resident of Cook County and a Representative of the City of Chicago, I am concerned about our tax burden in the State of Illinois and in Cook County. But the problem is not just the sales tax, we rely too heavily on property taxes to fund our public schools and public services and this Bill is dealing with just one area of those tax problems. Here in the State of Illinois, we have a regressive income tax and regressive tax system and as we're trying to figure out how to deal with our budget problems, we need to be figuring out how we deal with our regressive system at the state level and how we provide real and meaningful property tax relief to folks back in Chicago and in Cook County and throughout the State of Illinois. Finally, this Bill takes away Home Rule authority. The members of the Cook County Board were elected; they have the authority under our 09600033.doc 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 Constitution and appropriate statutes to make these decisions. They made these decisions and they should be held accountable by the voters for making those decisions. If we don't want Home Rule authority, we don't want counties to have that power, then we should amend our Constitution and take away the power of Home Rule municipalities to tax themselves. So, with those comments in mind, I will be voting against this Bill, but I would look forward to working with the Sponsor and other folks in this chamber… looking forward to working with Sponsors and other Members of this chamber on real and meaningful property tax relief and tax fairness in the future. In… inquiry of the Chair."

"State your inquiry, Representative."

"What's the vote requirement for this Bill?"

"Restate it, Sir?"

"How many votes are required to… what's the Constitutional Majority to pass this Bill?"

"The parliamentarian will address that issue, Sir."

"Mr. Speaker."

"Anything further, Mr. Burns?" 09600033.doc 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to request a verification on the Roll Call."

Speaker Lyons: "Verification has been requested by Representative Burns on this issue. Representative Fred Crespo."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. I stand in strong support of my friend's Bill, House Bill 715. I live in a border district; I border Page… DuPage and Kane County and ever since this tax went into effect, we had folks in my district who started shopping for large appliances and plasma screen TVs. Now, they're buying everyday things. They're going to grocery shopping across the street. It's having a very detrimental impact on my municipalities. Now, notwithstanding all the issues with Cook County, we can belabor over much and how efficient they are… whatever it is. Our people get it, Ladies and Gentlemen, nothing is free. They're willing to pay, but the fundamental question too, that I ask you to consider is, what's the ROI? What's the return on their investment? And think about that. In my district when they ask me that question, you know what, we're pretty lucky to get 20 cents on the dollar. It's unfair… it's grossly unfair, and I hope you all join me in supporting Representative Mathias's Bill. Thank you."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Lou Lang."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, first, a couple of cleanup items. I would like to ask the parliamentarian how many votes this Bill will take to pass." 09600033.doc 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Representative Lang, I know you were busy in conversation. Representative Burns asked that and the parliamentarian did address that will take 71 votes."

"All right. Thank you. And the second thing is before I begin speaking, if this Bill should get the requisite number, I would ask for a verification."

Speaker Lyons: "A verification has also been asked by Representative Burns."

"All right."

"So, he beat you to the punch, Lou."

"Then I guess I should pay more attention. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen, I… I am not a big fan of the new sales taxes in Cook County, as you know I live there. My constituents are not real fans of those taxes and I would have wished the county board would have done this in a different way. However, Ladies and Gentlemen, they didn't do it in a different way. Are we going to micromanage local affairs from Springfield every time we don't like what they do, for political reasons? I don't think that's our role. There's a lot of people in this… Mr. Speaker, can I have some quiet, please?"

"Ladies and Gentlemen, we're discussing a very, very serious issue. I'd ask if Members of the chamber could bring the conversations down, please."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Thank you very much."

"We talk, on this House Floor, about local control all the time: local control of schools, local control of counties, local control of townships, local control of 09600033.doc 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 municipalities, local control, local control. But whenever some of us feel it's in our best political interest not to be for local control, well, then that's okay. So, we stand on the House Floor and we pontificate and we turn everything into politics so we can send a press release out or a nice colored brochure for our next election, but the fact is, Ladies and Gentlemen, sometime in this chamber it'd be nice to have a… at least a small group of us who believe that we should have a philosophy of government that goes from day to day to day and does not change with the wind. Ladies and Gentlemen, this Bill does that. This Bill says, well, you know, Representative, we believe in local control, but not this time. This time we think the Cook County Board has gone too far, so we are going to tell the Cook County Board what to do. We're going to tell them to have a referendum or we're going to tell them they need a three-fifths vote or we're going to tell them to roll back their taxes or we're going to tell them this or that or the other thing. A Home Rule unit in the State of Illinois, a sovereign government in the State of Illinois that has the right to do whatever they want to do with these taxes, we are going to stand on this floor and tell them, no, you can't do it. And not only are we going to tell them, no, you can't do it, but we're not going to give them any relief. So, we're going to say today, you know what, whatever taxes you've collected, you can't collect them anymore; you can't spend them anymore and whatever budget you created for this fiscal year, forget about it. You figure out how to do it. So, we're just going to take 09600033.doc 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 the power to tax away from you. We're going to take the power we've given you for local control away from you, but we have no interest whatsoever in helping you with a solution to your problem. So, not only do you have the fiscal crisis, Cook County, but we're going to tell you what you can do and we're going to give you no relief whatsoever from the problem we will create for you when we pass this Bill. Now, the Sponsor will say, well, I'm not doing that, Representative, all I want… all I want is a referendum. What's the matter with that? Turn it over to the people? Well, there's no problem with a referendum except that Cook County is its own sovereign, Home Rule government that has the right to make any decisions they want for the people that live in Cook County. And there is relief, that relief is the next election. So, if the people of Cook County don't like what their County Board has done… and by the way, count me in, I'm not too happy with those taxes either… the people can vote new people in. They can vote Mr. Stroger out, all the commissioners out and start all over. But this is the wrong Bill; it's wrong public policy and it should be defeated."

Speaker Lyons: "The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook, Representative Rosemary Mulligan."

"We're letting the debate go, Rosemary, but we're still limiting the speeches to about 5 minutes."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Jim Durkin."

Speaker Lyons: "The Lady from Cook, Representative Debbie Graham."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Mathias, can you tell me… there were some things that were said by some of the colleagues on the other side of the aisle about what is being taxed and what is not being taxed. Can you tell me what items are being taxed under the county tax system?"

"Yes. Because there are some things that are being taxed with the tax increase that the county implemented and there are some things that are not. I think some of the comments on the other side of the aisle have been a little misleading, so I'd like for you to be able to tell us what is being taxed and what is not being taxed."

"Well, some of the items that was sprouted out over there was food. So, food that is going… food that is purchased from the market, is that taxed, from the grocery stores?"

"Is food from the grocery stores taxed with the county tax?"

"Okay. Is medicine taxed with the county tax?"

"Are houses taxed with the county tax?"

"Yes."

"Are RVs taxed with the sales tax?"

"Are glasses taxed with county tax?"

"Are contacts taxed with the county tax?"

"Consumable goods that you put inside your body, are they taxed with the county tax?"

"What are… what is taxed wit the county tax?"

"So, I would say that the county has taken a chance to look at some of the items that are being taxed. I'm sure that it had to be a complicated decision that had to be 09600033.doc 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 made by some of the county commissioners. There are 14 clinics throughout the county that would be closed if this county tax hadn't gone up. I would agree with some of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle that the County Board has done a poor job in telling us why they needed to raise the tax, but the tax was necessary for the people in the areas who rely on those clinics to provide the health care that they do not have health care coverage to support themselves with. So, I would agree that the county has done a poor job in communicating with us why this tax was needed and I'm sure they turnover every day in their beds thinking that this is a complicated issue and we continue to blow helium into it and to look at it as if it's done something wrong. I think that they did a lot of… have taken a lot of time to single out some of the items that some of your colleagues call a necessity, 'cause I would call food at a grocery store a necessity; I would call medicine a necessity; I would call housing a necessity; I would call glasses a necessity; I would call contacts a necessity, which are all not being taxed under the county tax. So, I would urge my colleagues to continue to listen to the debate, but sort out what the truth and myths are in this debate. And I would urge a 'no' vote."

Speaker Lyons: "The Gentleman from Bond, Representative Stephens."

Speaker Lyons: "Representative Froehlich to close. Representative Mathias to close. My apologies, Sid."

"It gets lonely up here, Representative." 09600033.doc 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Ladies and Gentlemen, after Extended Debate on House Bill 715, there is a request from Representative Burns for verification. Members, push your own switch. The question is, 'Should House Bill 715 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Two Members not voting. Representative Cultra. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this issue, there are 61 Members voting 'yes', 55 Members voting 'no'. This Bill, having failed to receive the extraordinary Majority, is hereby declared failed. The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Rock Island, Representative Pat Verschoore for a point of personal privilege."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I'd like the Body to help me give a Springfield welcome to Clay Zwilling of the Sherrod FFA Chapter. He's the 2008-2009 Illinois State FFA President. He's the son of Al and Becky Zwilling of Sherrod and his advisor is Troy Coziahr. These SAEs include the state winning Beef Production Entrepreneurship, Swine Production, Diversified Livestock Production, Agricultural Communications Entrepreneurship. Clay has served as Chapter President, Vice President and second… Secretary. He has also served as a Section IV Vice President and a Section III President. Clay's favorite CDEs are Livestock and Public Speaking. After Clay's term, he will attend Lake Land College and participate on the 09600033.doc 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 Livestock Judging team. After Lake Land, he plans to attend the university to major in agricultural education to become a high school agricultural instructor. Please help me welcome Clay Zwilling from Sherrod, Illinois, right behind us."

Speaker Lyons: "Congratulations and welcome to Springfield. Enjoy your day. Representative John Fritchey, on page 41 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 4326. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Chair recognized the Gentleman from Cook, Representative John Fritchey."

"I simply request an 'aye' vote."

"Is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Jasper, Representative David Reis."

"Indicates he will."

"Well, if you want to get bogged down in details, Representative, we can go through this…"

"Again, it actually is an excellent Bill. What this would provide is a situation where if a corporation was to receive public benefits, tax incentives, dollars, et cetera, by virtue of locating in a TIF district, they were to come in and build a facility, create jobs, et cetera, should they leave to go to another state that maybe gave 09600033.doc 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 them another deal, another municipality, another country, that they would have to reimburse the incentives that was given… that were given to them by that municipality. And the Bill provides that would be prorated. So, if they were there and they were going to receive benefits over a 23- year period and they picked up and left after 5 years, that they would have to reimburse the unused portion of those benefits back to the municipality. We've seen time and time again, it's happened throughout this state, companies are very quick and eager to line up and take the largess of public tax dollars to come in, then the next thing we know they turn around and say, we're moving these jobs to Mexico, but by the way, thanks for the millions of dollars that you gave us, see you. What we're going to say now is, if you're going to pick up and go, we can't keep you from doing that, but you're going to give us our money back."

"Now, you're… Two more questions. That was already one, so one question left?"

"Well, it would simply be a statutory requirement, so thereby the municipality would have leverage and they'd come and say, okay, if you are going to pick up and leave, 09600033.doc 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 you are going to be on the hook for us… to us for 'x' million of dollars. And the company would either have to factor that into their decision and make that payment or obviously, be subject to litigation at the time."

"Well, could you repeat that last part… repeat that last part again."

"Okay. I… I don't…"

"I don't hear that from you too often."

"Oh, no, no, quite to the contrary. I think this makes sure that everybody is on a level playing field and we'll be protecting our taxpayers. When communities go into an agreement like this, it's because they are willing to give up tax dollars because they believe that there are jobs and economic development coming in return for those grants and incentives. But what's happened, as I said on numerous occasions, is the taxpayers have paid out the benefits only to watch these companies come and go and take the jobs with them and they're left, not in the same 09600033.doc 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 position they were, they're left in a worse position than they were…"

"…because they don't have the jobs, they don't have… they don't have the economic infusion into the community, and what they also don't have are the tax dollars and tax abatement that they gave up to get that company there to start with."

"The Gentleman from Knox, Representative Don Moffitt."

"Sponsor yields."

"It… it's a broader attempt to get at the same issue, so we can go after any business that comes into a TIF district, but I'm trying to be fair about it. As I said, 09600033.doc 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 there’s… there's a prorations clause in there, so we're not going to say, you know, if you were there for half the time and you leave, give us back all the money. In that case, give us back half the money. But it is… it emanates from the same type of situation, from the same type of taxpayer injustice, but I think in a broader stroke that would give us more protection and this would, obviously, apply to TIF districts around the state."

"Thank you."

"The Gentleman from McHenry, Representative Jack Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill."

"To…"

"I had heard the previous speakers and I appreciate the comments, but to talk about… one of them had said how this is going to hurt business. I don't think so at all. I think whenever you have standards that are objective rather than subjective it helps businesses to plan. I think it's very important, and Mr. Moffitt had talked about the Corporate Accountability Act that he worked hard on with me, because we both had the same type of thing happen in 09600033.doc 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 our district, we had the Motorola plants and I believe, Maytag… you had the Maytag issue. I think it's important that tax dollars are spent correctly. And I really appreciate what Mr. Fritchey has done with the claw back provisions. I think it makes it fair and equitable to all… all those involved. I think it helps keeps honest people honest. I can tell you that our Bill that we passed a few years ago, the Corporate Accountability Act, was used as a model Act thereafter for many other states. It didn't incorporate this important provision, frankly, 'cause I hadn't thought of it. So, I think, John, you did… you're doing the citizens a real service by bringing this forward and I applaud your efforts. And I hope everyone votes for this Bill."

"The Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Bill Black."

"State your inquiry, Sir."

"We passed that by. We're on a TIF Bill, Mr. Black."

"Passed over that issue."

"We've gone past that."

"The Sponsor yields." 09600033.doc 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"I have a lot of orchards in my district."

"A lot of people don't know that."

"The problem is your question's better than my answer's going to be and that is, I'm not sure. We've looked at this. I'm not sure of the applicability. I think that an argument could be made that if a company were to move out of a TIF district subsequent to this Bill becoming law, should it become law, I would be very surprised if the municipality did not try to invoke this. At the same time, I think that the defense would be made that this was not in place at the time of the agreement and 09600033.doc 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 would not be applicable. I don't know the answer. I would like to see it be applicable, because I think that tax dollars are tax dollars and fair is fair and if an agreement was made, it should be honored. At the same time, obviously, I am not one that's keen on changing the rules after the fact. I will note that many agreements already have this in place where they say, hey, should you leave, you know, we get the $500 thousand in tax abatements refunded to us. But a lot of agreements don't have that and that's why I think there's a need for legislation like this. It was, obviously, not my intention to make light of what's an important question…"

"…and I don't know what the answer is. I really don't."

"I think that's the same question asked…"

"…a different way."

"I'm not…"

"It doesn't take much. I just… I don't know… I don't know the answer. I think… I think that it would be tried to… it would try to be used that way. I would not be adverse to it being used that way. Whether or not a court 09600033.doc 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 will find that to be the case, I don't know. We are not supplementing or really abrogating any terms of existing contracts; however, this would obviously be something that will be used in interpreting what would happen in the event of a default of the contract. Now, my…"

"…and this is, let me be very clear, this is a guess, but an educated guess on my part, is that many of these agreements have remedies in there for what would happen in the event that a company would leave. Many of those other agreements also have language in there saying that the agreement will be construed in accordance with the laws of the State of Illinois. Should this become a law of the State of Illinois, I think it's something that becomes a… an issue to the extent that it does change the balance and change the landscape of these existing agreements. I think it should be noted though, that it changes the balance and the landscape squarely in favor of taxpayers and municipalities."

"Representative Black, your time has expired. If you could conclude your remarks, we'd appreciate it."

"They were tough answers." 09600033.doc 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"And we always extend it for…"

"…you know, for an extra minute or so, Sir, so please continue."

Speaker Lyons: "The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook, Representative Rosemary Mulligan."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes, it could be. The second part of the answer is, no, they would not have. It's an agreement that is entered into between the relevant municipality and the relevant corporation. So, obviously, to the extent that the municipality has the authority to enter into these types of agreements, they'll do so as they see fit." 09600033.doc 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Well, I think that we would make clear that, absent an affirmative effort to negotiate this away, it would be the law of the land. I would be very suspect of any municipality wanting to negotiate away what is clearly a protection for them which is saying, we are giving you 'x' dollars in tax abatements; we are giving you 'x' dollars in incentives, et cetera, et cetera, with the plan that you will be here for the duration of the TIF district for 23 years or whatever it may be, but hey, if you leave in 3 years, that's okay take our money and run. I would hope that municipalities would not want to put a clause like that in there."

"Without question."

"Can you restate that, please?"

"You will be correct." 09600033.doc 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Oh, yeah."

"Absent it being excluded, this provision, then this would be… this would be controlling law in interpreting the agreement. I con… I considered at the time putting something in there that would say that you would not be able to negotiate away this provision, but I felt that that was an undue interference on the ability of municipalities to enter into agreements as they see fit. So, what I'm trying to do is allow as much contractual leeway as I can while still protecting the taxpayers to the fullest extent."

"Well, I appreciate that, thank you."

"Representative Fritchey to close."

"I guess we could have done this without the debate, but I'm actually glad we did have the debate. Folks, this really is a good piece of commonsense legislation when you talk about things that are not only good government, but pro taxpayer and that can benefit all of our regions regardless of where we're located in the state, regardless of our Party. Obviously, all of us want to be diligent in protecting the taxpayers' dollars that we invest into economic development. This Bill will help us do that. And I re…"

"John, you okay? Can we call the Bill? Mr… The question is, 'Should House Bill 4236 (sic-4326) pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Mendoza. Representative Cultra. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 115 Members voting 'yes', 1 Member voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Michael McAuliffe, on page 40 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 2540. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Michael McAuliffe." 09600033.doc 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Mr. Clerk, on the request of the Sponsor… would you like this moved to Second Reading? Move this Bill from Third to Second Reading. Representative Debbie Graham, on page 39 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 179. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Lyons: "The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook, Representative Deborah Graham."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I have before you House Bill 179 regarding minor protection… regarding minor protection. The law currently states that if you have a minor in your home under the age of 14 you must store your gun in a locked box or with a trigger lock or in any other reasonable place. House Bill 179 seeks to move… remove 'any other reasonable place' and raise the age from 14 to 18. There's been a lot of talk about the Heller decision. Heller does, in fact, say that a man has the right to protect himself, but Heller is quiet or silent on minor protection. This Bill does allow for families who have trained in giving their children permission to handle their handguns. This Bill does allow for that. We're talking about families who are not as familiar with handguns and having their guns properly stored when there have min… when they have minors in the home. I'll attempt to answer any questions at this time." 09600033.doc 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

Speaker Lyons: "The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Jackson, Representative Michael Bost."

"Sponsor yields."

"Restate your question, please?"

"This Bill simply focuses on protecting minors in the home, if a person has a handgun in their house. It's all about minor protection. It's about children in your home who are not as sophisticated as maybe your children would be 'cause I'm sure that you've taken the time to train your children and they possibly have FOID cards and that sort of thing."

"But this is for areas for… who… whose family may not be as well-versed in handgun ownership as yours."

"Representative, I would pray to God that the children would not get access to it. This is a precautionary measure meant… trying to prevent any accidents from happening. But I presume…"

"…that if… if… I presume, if I may continue to answer your question."

"…if the authorities would know that your handgun was unlocked, an accident probably presumably happened."

"Representative, we wouldn't know that not unless something had happened. Again, this is a precautionary measure…"

"…and if they have a child in their home under the age of 18 that they have not given that child permission to handle that handgun, that would probably be a potential for an issue there."

"Right. Yeah. Is it… Representative, the law currently states that right now that is still an issue, 09600033.doc 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 right now in the law. All I'm seeking to do is remove 'any other reasonable place' and raise the age from 14 to 18. Whatever your presumed questions are would be the same under the very same existing law."

"Sure."

"No. Your… your question…"

"Wait a minute. Your question has a twofold answer. If there's a 18… a child in your home under the 18… age of 18 and the gun is accessible and you have given that child permission, you wouldn't have any issues."

"Yes. If you gave that child permission…"

"…and you felt comfortable enough that he was comfortable with handling the handgun, you wouldn't have any issues 'cause the law currently provides that if you have given your child permission to handle it, you wouldn't have any issues."

"This is for children whose parents have not given them permission to have or handle a handgun…" 09600033.doc 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"…who don't feel comfortable that their children can make that decision."

"Mr. Bost, your time has expired. If you'd take another minute or so to conclude your question, we'd appreciate it."

"Mr. Bost, as you are surely aware of, when your time runs out, I try to give you another minute or two to conclude your remarks."

"So, if you'd be so kind as to do so, I'd appreciate it." 09600033.doc 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

Speaker Lyons: "The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Crawford, Representative Roger Eddy."

"Mr. Eddy has asked for a verification on this Bill. So, Members you will be voting your own switch. And Mr. Bost, you have another five minutes."

"We're just trying to increase parental responsibility. If your child… if you feel comfortable, which I'm sure in your household you probably have conditioned your children…"

"…trained them. They probably have access to a FOID card and you're comfortable with them making the appropriate decision. This is for families who have handguns in their homes, who are not comfortable with their 09600033.doc 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 children having access to the handguns. Those guns should not be stored in 'any other reasonable place'. They should be locked or in a… or with a trigger lock, locked in a locked box or with a trigger lock."

"You said the parent said they have my permission?"

"Then you don't have an issue. The current… under the current…"

"…under the current statute, Representative, all I'm changing is 'any other reasonable place' and raising the lage… age. Under the current statute, your very same scenario would be he… the same results would exist, under the same… under the statute today."

"You are a parent; you're taking responsibility for your child and you said you had given your child 09600033.doc 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 responsible… permission to handle that handgun. Now, if you are the parent and you deny, you say you don't want him to handle the handgun, then I think you would have issues. So, where are you going to… where would you fall in that if the authorities would show up?"

"I think that… yeah, I think that when children… some children do things that their parents want their children to be responsible for, they own up to their part of what has happened. So, I mean, that… that's a very likely scenario. But under the current statute, Representative Bost, that same… the very same scenario the parent could own up to it or not own up to it, under the current law. You're not… you're not asking me anything that wouldn't be an issue under the current law."

"I think you're putting a lot of effort into this in trying to confuse the people on this floor."

"You're putting a lot of effort because…"

"Yeah."

"Yes." 09600033.doc 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Yeah."

"No. What you're…"

"That's already current statute, Representative, again, that's already current statute."

"I would like for you to focus on the fact that I'm only raising the age from 14 to 18 and removing out of the law 'any other reasonable place'. All the scenarios that you're giving me are under the current statute. They would have an issue under the current statute. I haven't changed those conditions at all. I haven't changed those conditions at all."

"All I’ve done, Members of the Body…"

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Bond, Representative Ron Stephens."

Speaker Lyons: "The Lady's ready for your questions, Representative."

"Yes, it would be."

"Representative, when I said that… they're not exempt, because the example that I gave you was that I'm sure that the Representative has trained his children…"

"…and probably would… They're not…"

"They're not exempt, no."

"If you have given your 17-year-old permission to use a handgun… Representative, all I'm doing is raising the age from 14 to 18. All these conditions that you guys are putting out here today exist under current statute. They 09600033.doc 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 exist under the same statute… the current statute. I'm not changing any of those conditions. All I'm doing…"

"…is raising the age from 14 to 18."

"And removing from the law 'any other reasonable place'."

“Sure.”

“Right.”

"Under current statute… under the current statute, he's exempt. And under the Bill that I'm proposing…"

"Because he's in the military."

"If he's… if before he was in the military and you had given him permission to handle the handgun, he… he… you would not have had a issue."

"You had to give him permission."

"Yeah."

"He would have been exempt."

"I'm not protecting you if you don't feel you need to be protected. But ask the officer who put his handgun on his dresser and his nightstand and his child shot himself in the head. Ask that officer would he had preferred to have stored his gun in what… some other place…"

"…than that was 'any other reasonable place'."

"This Bill would."

"Representative Stephens, we'll give you another minute. Please turn the microphone back on for another minute or so."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from White County, Representative Phelps."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. To the Bill. I believe the Sponsor of the Bill… House Bill 179, I believe… said that the Heller was silent 09600033.doc 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 on this issue, but I so happen to have the Supreme Court ruling in the Heller case right here and I'd add just a couple things of what it says. ‘Number 3, the handgun ban and the trigger lock requirement violate the Second Amendment.’ Then it goes on to say, ‘the requirement that any lawful firearm in the home be disassembled or bound by a trigger lock makes it impossible for citizens to use arms for the core and lawful purpose of self-defense and is hence unconstitutional.’ It's right here, folks. And I ask for a 'no' vote."

"The Gentleman from Jasper, Representative David Reis."

"Sponsor yields."

"The Supreme Court has, in fact, said that a man has the right to protect himself, but the… the ruling does not indicate whether or not you have children in your home. So, Heller's ruling is, in fact, silent on protecting children in your very own home. It is, in fact, silent. Point it out to me where is it in the ruling that it says if you have a child in your home, you don't have to bind your gun with a trigger lock. Show it to me. He has a decision…"

"Show it to me."

"It doesn't have it in there. It is not in the ruling."

"The Gentleman has the ruling. I would yield to the Gentleman to show me in that ruling that is says if you have children in your home, you don't have to bound your handgun. I would ask the Gentleman to show it to me."

"Yes, you do."

"The current… the current statute states…"

"The current statute has trigger locks in it, Representative. My piece of legislation doesn't even address the trigger locks. It addresses raising the age from 14 to 18 and removing 'any other reasonable place'."

"Exactly."

"Yes and that's why I don't understand what the complication is. I'm raising the age from 14 to 18." 09600033.doc 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Representative…"

"…Representative, this Bill is not about criminals. This is not about criminals. I'm not even addressing that. This is about protecting the children in your home that you have not given permission to handle handguns."

"This is about minor protection, protecting your family."

"That's between you and the law enforcement. If something would happen, if your handgun was not stored properly…"

"…that would be between you and law enforcement."

"That's why we have courts of law is to make that distinction."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Harry Osterman."

"Thank you… thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, you know, maybe it's loud and people don't understand or can't read the Bill, but… and that we're policing words when maybe they should read the Bill. The Bill simply changes the age of someone from 14 to 18 that if they get access to a firearm in a home without permission, they could… their parents can be charged for a violation of the law. Is that correct?"

"That's correct."

"Simply changes the law. It doesn't repeal the law; it doesn't do a lot of other things; it doesn't impose a lot of other things; it doesn't take away rights. It simply changes the age of an individual. It doesn't… doesn't disintegrate (sic-denigrate) the military or anything like that. The Sponsor in her integrity here is trying to help prevent tragic accidents in the home and tragic accidents that occur with children, that happen 09600033.doc 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 across the State of Illinois and the people of this Body should be interested in that and should care about that. And shouldn't waive the Heller decision and make false claims; they should focus on what the Bill does. They don't have to earn their stripes with the NRA today, focus on what the Bill does. And the Bill simply changes the age to protect teenagers from trying to get access to firearms, makes people more responsible we would hope, and we would hope that we wouldn't have to do this, but we do, because people do get access… children get access to firearms that they shouldn't be accessed to. So, I applaud the Sponsor's efforts and would encourage everyone to support this legislation."

"Representative Jim Durkin."

"Representative Black."

"Representative Graham to close." 09600033.doc 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I know that this is a complicated piece of legislation for people who feel like their rights are being violated, but this Bill is simply about minor protection. If you have a child in your home under the age of 18, you must store your gun with a trigger lock or in a locked box and not in any other reasonable place. If you don't have children in your home, this piece of legislation doesn't even apply to you, it doesn't apply. This is not a Chicago issue. I've heard time and time again, when we've brought commonsense gun legislation to be voted on in this chamber, it's always being directed as this is a Chicago issue. This is not a Chicago issue. Accidents happen all over this state on a regular basis, something is happening… unfortunate tragedies happen and this is simply a preventative measure to prevent any further accidents from happening. The law already allows if you have given your child permission to handle the handguns, you are exempt from that. A number of the downstate families have trained their children; they have FOID cards and get that opportunity to go out with their families because they're conditioned. A lot of other areas just don't have those luxuries. I would ask that the Body give this piece of legislation a chance. I did talk in detail with the NRA over this piece of legislation and some decent talks did take place. I would ask this Body to consinner… consider giving me a 'yes' vote on this. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, Representative Roger Eddy has asked for a verification, so I'm asking all Members 09600033.doc 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 please push only your switch. The question is, 'Should House Bill 179 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk… Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 54 Members voting 'yes', 62 Members voting 'no'. This Bill, having failed to get the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared failed. Representative Cultra, for what reason do you have your light on?"

"Please proceed, Representative."

"Welcome seventh and eighth graders. Enjoy your day. Representative Sacia, you have a personal privilege you wish to announce?"

Speaker Lyons: "Congratulations, Dennis. Congratulations, Linda. Representative Brauer, for what purpose do you seek recognition, Representative?" 09600033.doc 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Proceed."

"Happy birthday, Raymond. Many, many happy more… healthy more. Representative Michael Bost, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Please proceed."

"That's appreciated, Representative. Thank you for your kind words. Representative Black, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"The truth does hurt sometimes, Representative. The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Fritchey."

"Thank you, Speaker. With respect to the Gentleman from Vermilion, I understand his concern and maybe just so we can do this the right way, he can inform us of how they used to do it at the Old State Capitol." 09600033.doc 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from White, Representative Brandon Phelps."

"A point of personal privilege."

"Proceed, Representative."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Representative Bill Black is absolutely right. I, too, am sorry for telling the age of my seatmate, Dan Reitz, when I called him double nickel, sorry."

"As we proceed from the Order of Birthdays, and discussions relevant to birthdays, Representative McAuliffe, you have House Bill 2584. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. Sorry, Mr. Clerk, it's House Bill 2582."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Michael McAuliffe."

"Is there any discussion on House Bill 2582? Seeing none, the question is, 'Should House Bill 2582 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Feigenholtz, Dugan, Shane Cultra, Toni Berrios. Arroyo. Would you like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 86 Members voting 'yes', 28 Members voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Art Turner in the Chair.”

“On the Order of Third Readings, Representative Harris, we have House Bill 2469. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"…from Cook, Representative Harris."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. This Bill is an appropriations Bill to restore 25 percent of the nearly $4 million in cuts to housing and services for homeless youth that were made in the Governor's budget. To answer some questions that may come from the other side of the aisle, we would assume this would come from GRF funds. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"The Gentleman from Crawford, Representative Eddy, for what reason do you rise?"

"I can tell you that in the… I couldn't give you the exact number, but in the educational services for homeless youth there was a $3 million cut and in the homeless youth programs, housing and services there was a $700 thousand cut. So, 3.7 million altogether."

"In the Governor's introduced budget."

"They were pretty close to the same. I'd have to go back and actually look at those figures. I don't want to mislead you, Representative."

"Three point seven million dollars."

"One million."

"Yes."

"Well, Representative, I understand that these are very tough economic times and that, you know, every group and every entity is going to have to give a little." 09600033.doc 90  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Seeing no further questions, the question is, 'Shall the House pass House Bill 2469?' All those in favor should vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 76 voting 'aye', 40 voting 'no', 0 'presents'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of Third Readings, Representative Hernandez, we have House Bill 3967. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Hernandez."

"Thank you, Speaker. House Bill 3967 is a Department on Aging initiative. Upon sufficient appropriations to the agency, the Bill amends the Elder Abuse Act to implement a statewide program based on the recommendations of the Elder Self-Neglect Task Force. The intent of the Bill was to address an issue the department 09600033.doc 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 was experiencing where the elder abuse providers involved with a victim of abuse, the victim dies and the coroner rules on the cause of death unaware of the fact that the deceased was an elder abuse victim. This Bill also tightens some language needed. I ask for your favorable vote. Thank you."

"Seeing no questions, the question is, 'Shall the House pass House Bill 3967?' All those in favor should vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Verschoore. The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'aye', 0 'noes', 0 'presents'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, on page 38 of the Calendar, we have House Bill 1116. Representative Durkin. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Durkin."

"Seeing no questions, the question is, 'Shall the House pass House Bill 11… The Lady from Cook, Representative Davis. I'm sorry. Representative Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Chair… Mr. Speaker. Did you say they will have one-time only for supervision?"

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Froehlich, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield? Representative Durkin, your Bill, if I understand it, would allow a motorist to get three supervisions in a 12-month period. Is that correct?"

"So, a motorist, currently, can only get two supervisions in a year. Your Bill will allow some motorists to get three in a year." 09600033.doc 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Supervision, now, could you refresh my memory, that's not a formal conviction."

"Is that right?"

"So, people who get supervision escape some of the consequences of a formal conviction; for example, there's no points against their driver's license, as there would be with a conviction. And what I'm wondering, why should drivers with three moving violations in a year be able to avoid the conse… the full consequences of a conviction? Why are we… if they've got three, why should we make it easier for them to avoid the consequences? Isn't… Aren't three… wouldn't that bother you that somebody with three in one year, does that say something about the person's driving habits that…"

"Well, it seems to me you're… you're making life easier for people with repeated moving violations in a single year and I'm not so sure that serves public safety. Thank you."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Reboletti, for what reason do you rise?"

"Representative Durkin, do you want to…"

"…word."

"No further questions, the question is, 'Shall the House pass House Bill 1116?' All those in favor should vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now open. …all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 75 voting 'aye', 41 voting 'no', 0 'presents'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of Third Readings, Representative Holbrook, we have House Bill 2530. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. Representative, I understand there's an Amendment on that Bill."

"Bring it back to Second."

"Bring the Bill back to Second, Mr. Clerk. It's been requested by the Sponsor. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative Holbrook on Amendment #1."

"Thank you. Floor Amendment #1 on House Bill 2530 simply makes the cor… codification that mine subsidence is a man-made disaster concerning school buildings. This is what we did under the initial Bill on the temporary aid; this applies it now for all the bonding issues, if the school district needs it as an emergency. The state board 09600033.doc 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 believes it's already there, but we want to codify it just so it's absolutely clear. I know of no opposition. I'd like to adopt the Amendment, take it to Third then and address the Bill, if the Body's willing."

"So, the question is, 'Shall the House adopt Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 2530?' All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And Amendment #1 is adopted. Further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative Holbrook."

"…you. Thank you. House Bill 2530, as amended by House Floor Amendment #1, just codifies that mine subsidence is a man-made disaster when the school districts need either temporary or permanent help concerning their schools when they start to cave-in and collapse. I know of no opposition to the Bill."

"Seeing no questions, the question is, 'Shall the House pass House Bill 2530?' All those in favor should vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'aye', 0 'noes', 0 'presents'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of Third Readings, 09600033.doc 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 Representative Jackson, we have House Bill 85. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from East St. Louis, Representative Jackson."

"House Bill 85 may be cited as the Internet Voting Commission Act. What it does, the Internet Voting Commission will be created with the State Board of Election consisting of 12 Members of the General Assembly, the President and Minority Leader of the Senate and the Speaker and Minority Leader of the House of Representatives shall each appoint three legislative Members. The Internet Voting Commission shall study and recommend to the General Assembly a system of voting by the Internet at election in 2012. The Internet system of voting shall supplement not replace existing voting systems. I ask for a 'yes' vote and will entertain any questions."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Lang, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you. I rise to support the Gentleman's Bill. This had been my Bill until recently. All this does, Ladies and Gentlemen, is set up a commission to study Internet voting. It doesn't require Internet voting. I know there's some concern about fraud and hackers and all of that and that's fine. The whole idea here is to study it to see if it could be safely and properly implemented in Illinois to give people access to modern technology when they vote. Other states have tried it; they've had mixed 09600033.doc 101  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 results, but we at least ought to take a look at it in Illinois. And that's all the Bill does and so, I would urge you to support the Gentleman's Bill."

"The Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black, for what reason do you rise?"

"Indicates he will."

"It's Representative Jackson at this time."

"I picked it up, yes, I did."

"Yes, I can."

"That is correct."

"It go…" 09600033.doc 102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"It goes away January 2011."

"That is correct."

"It will be 12."

"The Speaker and the… the Legislative Leaders would each have three. Such as…"

"That is correct."

"Yes, 12."

"I'm more than sure that those individuals that we have selected… are going to select some excellent people and we're looking at taking and putting Internet as a means of voting and looking at the Internet as a means of voting. So, they're going to come up with recommendations that this Body can use in terms…"

"…of enacting or supplementing the voting system."

"There is no provision for a tiebreaker."

"No."

"We could. No."

"We'll keep it as it is."

"No."

"You know, that was one of my concerns initially, being of the minority and we have fewer computers, but yet still, the system will be in place, the regular system will be in place and/or the use of the library, if you just wanted to use the Internet."

"If the… if the computer's there, yes, the Internet. Now, let me go back and retract because what this is doing is putting in place a commission which will study and come back with the recommendations of how Internet would be done."

"No, I will not. The commission would bring it back."

"No, I haven't, no."

"Those are the kinds of issues that the commission's to address, the accessibility, security, are issues and the commission should address those things when they bring it… bring their recommendations back to us."

"Now, the commission will take and look at all of those issues and bring them back before us and at that time we, in turn, will look and see if, in fact…"

"…that we want it."

"You know, I've been here with Lang for a minute now, but I thank you."

"Representative Jackson, care to close?"

"I would urge an 'aye' vote. I think to establish the commission would be a beginning to looking at and determining if the Internet is something that we want to do in the State of Illinois. And I would urge an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Seeing no further questions, the question is, 'Shall the House pass House Bill 85?' All those in favor should vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take… Myers. …the record. On this question, there are 99 voting 'aye', 17 voting 'no', 0 'presents'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Jefferson on House Bill 537. Is he… 09600033.doc 106  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 Representative Miller on House Bill 3900. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Gentleman from Cook… Out of the record. Take the Bill out of the record, Mr. Clerk. Representative Nekritz on House Bill 242. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Back in '95 when the tax cap law was passed, the amount of the debt service extension base, meaning the amount of debt that a local taxing body can issue, was frozen at the level that that taxing body had outstanding in 1994. Every other fund covered by the tax cap was indexed to either the… as we all know… to the lesser of the consumer price index or 5 percent. House Bill 242 would allow that debt service extension base to also be increased annually by the same amount, again, the lesser of the CPI or 5 percent. Since the tax cap was enacted, the purchasing power of the dollar amount of that debt that was frozen has declined by approximately 40 percent. This legislation allows a small amount of additional bonding so that local taxing bodies can have greater flexibility to maintain their significant capital investments in buildings and other facilities. I'd also like to highlight that this change is not retroactive, so 09600033.doc 107  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 it will be effective from the year 2009 and forward. I ask for your support."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Fortner, for what reason do you rise?"

"Indicates she will."

"That is correct, Representative."

"That's correct. And it's always seemed sort of arbitrary to me because the taxing bodies at the time may have had a high level of debt outstanding or a low level of debt or no debt and it was a… you know, and there was no ability for the local taxing body to plan for that."

"The Gentleman from Crawford, Representative Eddy, for what reason do you rise?"

"Indicates she will."

"In no way."

"No way."

"That's correct."

"That's correct, even though the dollar amount, you know, due to inflation, we've lost about 40 percent of the purchasing power already."

"Absolutely correct, Representative."

"Agreed."

"May I remind the Members that this Bill is on Short Debate. We've had two proponents. We're looking for some opponents. Representative Winters." 09600033.doc 110  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Lake, Representative Sullivan, for what reason do you rise?"

"Indicates she will."

"Representative, the taxing body would first have to determine if they want to addit… to issue…"

"…that additional debt and then they would be able to levy to… to pay for that, but it would be a decision made by…"

"…the local taxing body first."

"We should be so lucky."

"There is… I believe that is accurate, but again that is a decision that the local taxing body will have to make about whether or not to increase that debt and…"

"Well… I don't… I don't… Representative, I would argue that it's not outside the tax cap, that we are simply allowing making a change to the tax cap rule in order to accommodate what should… probably should have happened when the tax cap rule was originally enacted."

"So, I don't… I wouldn't ar… I would not say that it's outside the tax cap."

"It's subject to the tax cap."

"The Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black, for what reason do you rise?"

"The Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative Jackson. Seeing no further questions, Representative Nekritz to close."

"Thank you. I believe we've fully aired the issue and I would ask for your support."

"No further questions, the question is, 'Shall the House pass House Bill 242?' All those in favor should vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 69 voting 'aye', 46 voting 09600033.doc 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 'no', 0 'presents'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Jefferson on House Bill 537. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Gentleman from Winnebago, Representative Jefferson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. This Bill amends the Residential Mortgage License Act of '87. Provides that no license may make, provide, arrange a mortgage loan with the prepayment penalty rather than permitting prepayment penalties under specified conditions. Prepayment penalties are prohibited in connection with the sale or destruction of dwellings secured by a residential mortgage loan. This basically says that you can no longer make prepayments on mortgage loans. And I would ask for an 'aye' vote. I would ask…"

"The Gentleman from Crawford, Representative Eddy, for what reason do you rise?"

"Indicates he will."

"The prepayment penalties right now are built into the loans as of, I think we're referring back to 1987, the Mortgage License Act of '87. What this does is say that you have to, if in fact this is going to be part of the agreement, you have to make sure you notify the lenders what this Bill is doing. If you're going to pay prepayments, they have to let you know and give you a choice of going with the prepayment, otherwise that might be penalties if you go in the opposite direction."

"As far as I can tell, yes."

"Well, absolutely, Representative, but you know, with legislation, we have to start somewhere. I think this is a good start. The fact that our banks are in total disarray. As we watch what's happening with our country, I think people have been penalized enough and we need to stop the penalties and this is one way of doing that. So, I think we need to start somewhere." 09600033.doc 115  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"I appreciate your opinion, Representative, but like I said, you've been watching the mood of the country, with the federal banks and some of the state banks we're in total disarray at this point and I think the consumers, the customers, the citizens need these tax breaks."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Lake, Representative Sullivan, for what reason do you rise?"

"…Bill."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Lake, Representative Beaubien, for what reason do you rise?"

"Indicates he will."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from McHenry, Representative Franks, for what reason do you rise? The Gentleman from Winnebago, Representative Jefferson, for what reason do you rise?" 09600033.doc 118  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I'm speaking on my Bill. But what I would like to do is take this Bill out of the record for now, do a little work on it and bring it back later."

"Take it out and don't bring it back? The Gentleman asks leave to take the Bill out of the record. The Gentleman from Cook, Rep… Representative Miller on House Bill 3900. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Miller."

"Thank you, Mr. Speakers… Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 3900 changes… was an oversight and an initiative… oversight due… on an issue that was for a constituent in my district I've introduced over the last few General Assemblies. Essentially, it's adding state highway maintainer employees by IDOT in the Toll Highway Authority to an alternate formula. Ask for a favorable vote."

"Seeing no questions, the question is, 'Shall the House pass House Bill 3900?' All those in favor should vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk… Have all voted who wish? …mond, May. The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 66 voting 'aye', 48 voting 'no', 0 'presents'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is 09600033.doc 119  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 hereby declared passed. The Lady from Kane, Representative Chapa LaVia, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Speakers… Speaker and Members of the House. I'd like to have everyone welcome… I have a constituent from Aurora. Ms. Linda Cole is the… she used to be the president of Fox Valley Park District. So, if you could stand up, Linda, and this is her granddaughter down here, Megan. Welcome."

"Welcome to Springfield. The Gentleman from Randolph, Representative Reitz, for what reason do you rise?"

"Just for an announcement. I would like Representative Zalewski, if he would stand up, and his twin, the other Mike, is here today and they dressed alike today. And we'd like to give them a round of applause."

"Welcome, Representative and welcome, Senator. You said twin, right? The Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black, for what reason do you rise?"

"State your point, Representative."

Speaker Turner: "Welcome to Springfield, Prairie View. Representative Riley, we have House Bill 2424. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09600033.doc 120  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Riley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 2424 essentially amends Section 41 of the Metropolitan Transit Act. And it affords people that have legitimate injury claims against the CTA the ability to hear those claims heard rather than being thrown out and their case forever being barred from suing the CTA because of a minor technicality in their… in their claim. Essentially, the genesis of this Bill came from a constituent of mine, Merle Huckabee, who was severely injured by a CTA bus. She was not at fault. Police records, everything said that she was not at fault and because she left out the address of the physician of record, her case was summarily dismissed and she was forever barred from suing the CTA. We want to try to change that. There are a lot of people that have legitimate claims. These are not frivolous claims. And we want to be able to afford them a modicum of consideration for their claims. I can answer any questions you may have."

"The Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black, for what reason do you rise?"

"The Lady from DuPage, Representative Bellock, for what reason do you rise?"

"Indicates he will."

"I don't believe that it does at all."

"Sixty days…"

"…to give the person… and again, we're in the… the claim process. So, there was some statements made about lawsuits, whenever you're talking about, at that point that might be later on down the line, it’s the claim process when the person first files the claim."

"Yes, it did."

"You're welcome."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Lang, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of the Gentleman's Bill. I listened very carefully to the Gentleman on the other side of the aisle and I really don't think he has fully read the Bill. This is a Bill about allowing a person to proceed with an appropriate claim and not be barred by some clerical error they have made on a piece of paper. The Gentleman had a woman in his district who filed her claim with the CTA within the timeframe allowed by the statute, but she left a blank open. It was the… the only blank she left open was the address of the hospital she went to, not even the name of the hospital, 09600033.doc 124  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 the address of the hospital she went to. And the CTA said nothing about it at all to her until such time as the deadline passed and then they simply said, well, sorry Ma'am we're not paying your claim 'cause you left a blank in the form. Now, that's wrong. We all know that's wrong. Nobody should be barred from a legal claim because they have made a clerical error. If we make a clerical error on our income taxes, we don't go to jail or shouldn't. We're allowed to correct that error. We're allowed to correct that error years later, in fact. The Gentleman is not trying to circumvent the law; the Gentleman is not trying to change the statute of limitations; the Gentleman is not trying to give people who have unfounded claims an opportunity to make them. He's simply saying if someone's made a clerical error and they've filed the piece of paper on time, let's give them the opportunity to correct that. That's all the Bill does. To go through all of this process about the lawsuits against the CTA and how much it costs them and how… what a litigious society we are and all of that nonsense has nothing whatsoever to do with this Bill. Someday one of you will have somebody on a bus or on a train and they will get injured. You'll have a constituent that says, what should I do? And you'll say, well, file the claim. And they'll file the claim and you'll say, well, good for you, you should get compensated for that claim. And then they're going to come back to you and say, gee, I said it was April, but it was really March and you're going to say, that's terrible, you ought to be compensated. It's all the Bill does. So, give the 09600033.doc 125  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 Gentleman a chance to move this Bill forward and correct this silly aberration in the law. Vote 'aye'."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Hamos, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you. To the Bill. I rise in support of this Bill, also and maybe, we've already talked about it long enough. I do want to also point out that this is an unusual situation, because in the case of the CTA only, there's a one-year statute of limitations. That still doesn't cha… that doesn't change here, but it's a unique situation when you have to file a notice six months into it that you're going to sue or that you've had an injury. We're not changing that either. So, the Sponsor here, and I had a duplicate Bill, was… is already compromising and saying we're going to keep the six months, we're not changing that; we're going to keep the one year, we're not changing that. All we're doing is exactly as the previous speaker said, that if there is a small error, then the… the injured party has an opportunity to correct it. That's all this does and yes, the CTA is still against it and the city's still against it, but they really shouldn't be. This is just fairness. I seek an 'aye' vote."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Thapedi, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of this Bill, as well. Essentially, this Bill just clarifies the legislative intent. Nothing is being changed with respect to this Bill. The statute of limitations remains the same at one year. The notice requirement to the CTA remains the 09600033.doc 126  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 same. Nothing has been changed. The only thing that's changed is, as my colleagues have mentioned is, that if some inconsistencies have been found in the particular notice that's been served upon the CTA, the injured party have the ability to rectify and clarify those mistakes. They have 60 days to do that. I ri… I stand in support of this Bill. Thank you."

"Seeing no further questions, the question is, 'Shall the House pass House Bill 2424?' All those in favor should vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 83 voting 'aye', 32 voting 'no', 0 'presents'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black, for what reason do you rise?"

"For the record."

"We will tell the mayor and the meter maid. The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Riley."

"A point of personal privilege, Mr. Speaker."

"State your point." 09600033.doc 127  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"To Representative Black, we'll make you a Chicagoan yet. I just want to say to the Body, you know, those who supported the previous Bill; those who did not. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you for your attention to this Bill. This Bill got a lot of attention and it got a lot of attention because it was extremely important…"

"Representative… Representative, we do those kind of thank yous, personally."

"I re… I retract. I was getting to a point, but I'll do that at a later time. I was trying to make a point, but that's okay."

"How about you…"

"I'll yield to parliamentary procedure."

"How about your next Bill, 4220? Mr. Speaker… I mean, Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 4220."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Riley. Now, you can say it all."

"Well, we're on another Bill now. What I want to do with 4220… 4220 has engendered, you know, a lot of the discussion and I'm in the process of talking to all groups on all sides and because an Amendment probably will be made to this Bill, I'd like to be able to remand that back to Second Reading, if at all possible."

"The Gentleman asks leave to bring the Bill back to Second… Second Reading. The Clerk will so do and the Bill will remain on Second Reading. Representative Burns on House Bill 684. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09600033.doc 128  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Burns."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I am presenting House Bill 684. You should be happy to know that this Bill is subject to appropriation. What it does create, however, is the statutory authorization for community schools to receive funding from the State Board of Education to expand programs. Community schools are regular public schools that have relationships with community-based organizations, churches, business organizations. There are 200 throughout the state. It's a statewide program, a statewide initiative and I'm happy to support the Bill. The objective is to increase and improve academic achievement, to provide after-school programs, before-school programming and expand school programming throughout the school… the calendar year. I look forward to your support and happy to answer any questions."

"The Gentleman from Crawford, Representative Eddy, for what reason do you rise?"

"State your inquiry."

"Representative, the 'poop' sheet wasn't up here and so, that's my mistake."

"We'll keep that in mind."

"My understanding from the Federation of Community Schools is that they would hope to… they're looking for about $5 million for this program. And they're hoping that a lot of this will come through the federalist… federal stimulus program."

"It is my understanding that there is money that will be available. I can't identify at this particular time exactly what that program is, but I'll be happy to get that information to you at a later time."

"No, it does not. There is a request for proposal that… that schools would have to apply for and the criteria are laid out in the Bill itself. So, among some of those criteria would be relationship with community-based organizations or other sort of linkages. But… but those are the primary requirements and it would be an RFP process."

"That's correct, Representative."

"Thank you." 09600033.doc 131  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Jasper, Representative Reis, for what reason do you rise?"

"Indicates he will."

"That's an excellent question. First of all, it should be noted that the community schools are already existing and the number of school districts have made the decision to use local funding to support a number of these programs. As I mentioned in my introductory comments, there are over 200 schools that are currently part of the Federation of Community Schools and they're located throughout the state. My hope would be that the Federal Government would continue to support these programs in out years, but school districts would certainly have the option to use local money to support these programs and bolster them in future years."

"There is no requirement in the legislation for the General Assembly to provide funding for these programs in this fiscal year or any other fiscal year. If the General Assembly determined that, in its wisdom, it would choose to 09600033.doc 132  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 appropriate money to these programs, we would certainly have that ability."

"That would be correct."

"…from Cook, Monique Davis, for what reason do you rise?" Davis, M.: "Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates he will." Davis, M.: "Representative Burns, can you tell me if there's any place in the School Code that mandates or monitors the behavior of a community school?"

"That's actually part of the reason why we're creating this legislation is that right now community schools are a local affair. So, com… schools in districts throughout the state make the determination that they want to partner with community-based organizations and other outside parties, they develop the relationships, they fund them on their own and they find private funding to do that. In the legislation we do create a community schools council that would advise the State Board of Education, the State Superintendent of Education on issues facing community schools." Davis, M.: "So, a community school, would it be an all-day affair or just after-school tutoring or…"

"The… Thank you, Representative. The great thing about this approach is that's driven by local people, so it… locally the… there's a local planning process that's called for as part of the RFP where you have to bring in parents, 09600033.doc 133  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 community partners and others to make a determination on what makes sense for that school in that particular community. So, in one community it might be before school programming, in another community it might be after-school programming." Davis, M.: "But these are not new schools like a charter school?"

"That is correct." Davis, M.: "Okay."

"These are existing public schools. This is not… this has nothing to do with charter schools." Davis, M.: "So, the… I'm saying, this is not a new group of schools?"

"That is correct. These are public schools that have called themselves community schools because they're partnering with community organizations to enhance the educational experience." Davis, M.: "And the nine-member advisory board will be made up of?"

"If you'll pardon me for one second. The criteria that we laid out in the Bill are persons who are involved in community school leadership, at least one representative of a statewide association that advocates for community schools, parents involved in community schools and other community stakeholders. So, what we're really trying to do is bring together folks who are working in this field, social workers, community-based organizations and others to really make sure that our schools are working with the community and make sure that all the resources that are 09600033.doc 134  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 available in a community are being brought to bear to improve educational outcomes." Davis, M.: "And how many community schools are we planning on having? And is this all over the state or just Chicago?"

"Community schools exist throughout the state. In fact, in committee we had folks who came from Representative Pritchard's area, there were folks from the City of Chicago, folks from downstate. It's a statewide initiative." Davis, M.: "Well, I want to say thank you very much and I would appreciate an invitation to visit one of the community schools and I think perhaps you have a great idea if you’re bringing the community in to offer the support that perhaps may be needed. And I do appreciate you bringing this legislation forward."

"Thank you very much for your comments, Representative. And I will endeavor to make sure that you have an opportunity to visit a community school."

"Seeing no further questions, the question is, 'Shall the House pass House Bill 684?' All those in favor should vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there 115 voting 'aye', 0 'noes', 0 'presents'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 35."

"Representative Tryon on Amendment #1."

"So, you want to table Amendment #1?"

"The Gentleman asks leave to withdraw Amendment #1. Further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from McHenry, Representative Tryon on Amendment #2."

"Seeing no questions, the question is, 'Shall the House…"

"Representative Tryon moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment 2 to House Bill 35. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"…Reading… Third Reading. On the Order of Third Readings, we have Representative Ryg on House Bill 2290. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Lady from Lake, Representative Ryg."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This legislation prohibits the guardian from sterilizing his or her ward without first obtaining a court order that grants authority to provide consent except in cases of medical emergency. The Bill also establishes the procedure by which a guardian would obtain the court order. Currently, there is no requirement for a guardian to petition a court regarding a ward's sterilization and Illinois is only one of 16 states that doesn't address this issue. Be happy to answer any questions."

"Seeing no questions, the question is, 'Shall the House pass House Bill 22… I'm sorry. The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Fritchey, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank… thank you, Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates she will."

"What are you trying to do here?" 09600033.doc 137  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Trying to pre… have a procedure by which a sterilization order would be protected… a person would be protected. That would include the person, the guardian, and the physician."

"Are you… I mean, given your motivations and given the proponents, I'm sure that this is a well intended and necessary Bill that does something good, but maybe just, for my own education, you know…"

"Sure."

"Under what situations would we want to have the court authorize sterilization of an individual?"

"The situation arose when Equip for Equality had a client who came to them and had traumatic brain injury and had a guardian and the guardian was preparing for… had found a doctor who would perform a sterilization against the individual's wishes. The individual wanted to maintain her ability to have a child. And so, it became clear that there was no procedure, that there was no protections for persons, that the guardian could go ahead, find a willing doctor…"

"Well, I agree that we want some protection. I guess, I don't know if this goes far enough, then. I guess, I mean, and again, maybe I'm just not familiar with these situations, but when would you want to have a court come in and order sterilization against an individual's desire?"

"But the court would not order it. The court would provide the protection that an application would have been made and there would have been a determination that the 09600033.doc 138  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 ward lacked the decisional capacity regarding sterilization and that the benefits would outweigh the harm."

"Well, if…"

"Well, again, it's a protective measure."

"Here, let me… let me ask this from another way, so maybe I'm just not asking the right way. I mean, can you just give me an example of why… here, why is this case, I guess, a guardian would want to go to court to have an individual sterilized?"

"Because… Again, the intent is to protect the ward."

"Oh, no, I understand that."

"Okay. So…"

"I… I am not trying to get in the way of this at all. I'm truly trying to understand a situation where they say, we want to come in and have this individual sterilized and when does that happen? When you…"

"When a guardian believes that a person is at risk of becoming pregnant and shouldn't be."

"And so, all these groups that are behind this… Well, I understand that they're saying that some standards are better than no standards and I clearly agree with that, but they're still saying that they're okay with… I mean, it almost seems that you should have a court have to sign off on it, not just say that certain standards were met but that it needs to be almost court approved."

"The court does have to approve."

"So, the court has…"

"That's the point." 09600033.doc 139  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"All right. I won't take up the Body's time and your time with this. It just…"

"Yeah. I appreciate that, because in the committee when we had the ability to provide the caseload information there… this was passed unanimously and again, because Illinois is one of 16 states that doesn't provide this protection, it has the support of all the proponents of the legislation."

"But in essence, what this is trying to say is that you may have somebody that doesn't have the decisional capacity regarding making a choice whether to undergo sterilization. It says that they’d have to be fertile and capable of procreation, the benefits of sterilization outweigh the harm. So, we're saying, okay, we're not going to devote the time to keep this person from engaging in unsafe conduct, so we'll just sterilize them instead. I mean, isn't that what this says?"

"No, no. The point is that a guardian could arrange for sterilization against their ward's wishes. So, this process protects the ward from sterilization without a procedure to verify that that's what they wish to have happen and/or that they're capable of making that decision."

"But what… what…"

"It protects the guardian…"

"No, I…"

"…from making a decision that the ward later says they did not want and it protects the physician…" 09600033.doc 140  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Well, I get that, but I'm not worried about the guardian."

"…from performing the sterilization." Fritchey: I'm not worried about the guardian, I'm worried about the ward that may be getting sterilized because somebody doesn't want to spend the time to make sure they don't get themselves into a situation that they don't either… I guess, what this is aimed at… is that they don't either get pregnant themselves or get somebody else pregnant, but the time doesn't want to be invested in this individual to keep them from being in that situation, so let's just have the court sign off and say, let's just sterilize them instead."

"No, as a matter of fact, Representative, this does exactly what you're suggesting. It protects that ward, because right now they're being sterilized against their will without a process for them to be protected. After the…"

"Oh, yeah. Here, I… here, I… I guess what I'm getting at is this. I agree that this Bill will be better than having no Bill, but aren't you troubled by the concept that we are still going to be able to just go in here and involuntarily sterilize people because we're worried about them getting pregnant or them getting somebody else pregnant and…"

"Representative Fritchey, bring your remarks to a close."

"I guess, and I'm sincere in my inquiry here. I mean, aren't you troubled that even having these rules that the fact that we have a society where we say we're not 09600033.doc 141  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 going to worry about overseeing the person; let's just sterilize them then we don't have to worry about they do or what they might do? Isn't that problematic?"

"That's the point of this legislation is to protect a person against what the current practice is which is a guardian makes that decision without any oversight. So, we are protecting the individual against sterilization unless the court determines that's what's needed because they're incapable of making that decision themself."

"I… I get that. I mean, and again, I'm not… I agree, having this on the books will be a much better situation than we have today, but I think that there's a bigger philosophical problem that all we're doing is asking the court to weigh in and say, sure, as long as these situations are met, we'll go ahead and sign off on having somebody sterilized as opposed to monitoring their behavior or something else. All right. This is… there's just something that from a societal standpoint just doesn't seem right. And I, again, I think I'll vote for the Bill, but I mean, having the rules is better than no rules, but I just… I think that it's just… it's problematic that even under these sets of safeguards that we'd be able to have a court now sign off and say, yes, you know, rather than overseeing this person, sterilize them, But I appreciate your indulgence. Thank you."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Dunkin, for what reason do you rise?"

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates she will." 09600033.doc 142  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Thank you. Representative, my colleague asked a very interesting question and certainly raised my curiosity. What other state performs sterilization of other human beings?"

"We're one of 16 states that does not provide for a protective process when sterilization is requested of a person who's incapable of making their own decision and has a guardian appointed for them."

"We're one of 16 states that does not have the protection of sterilization of someone who is…"

"(inaudible)."

"…unable to make decisions?"

"Correct, yes."

"Okay. Is there an age limit with this?"

"No, this concerns the relationship between a guardian and a ward."

"What's the definition of a 'ward'."

"A person who has a guardian named for them."

"Again, but there is no age limit, you say, to be a ward? Well, what could… what could be someone's age, 3, 5, 34, 68,"

"Typically, I would suggest that… But I mean, this would be for an adult with some form of disability that prohibits them from being able to manage their own affairs and has a guardian appointed for them."

"So, they could not be for… this person is not under 18, correct? Am I understanding that?"

"It could be."

"Could be. Why now for such legislation?" 09600033.doc 143  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Because of our awareness that we failed to protect individuals whose guardians may arrange for sterilization against their wishes."

"Has… has been any major uptick of wards becoming pregnant who were psychologically disa… disabled?"

"I… I wouldn't know."

"Well, I'm trying to understand that so I can have a clear understanding of sort of the sense… the need for the… for the… this legislation. You say you don't know why we're doing this…"

"If a person, in the case that raised the awareness of the need for this legislation, an adult woman suffered from a traumatic brain injury and was unable to take care of her own affairs and so had an appointed guardian who had decision-making authority for her. That guardian thought it best for that individual to be sterilized. That individual did not wish to be sterilized, but there was no process by which her rights were protected."

"So, this individual became pregnant…"

"No, sterilization."

"They just want to be sterilized, so there was no specific incident appropriation."

"She did not want to be sterilized; her guardian wanted her to be."

"And this Bill does what, again?"

"It requires that there's a court process by which a thorough evaluation is undertaken and the ward has an opportunity to express their wishes and the court works through that procedure." 09600033.doc 144  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Even though they are… they have a guardian…"

"Yes."

"…ad litem, they still would be able to articulate their rationale, their reason…"

"Yes."

"…for sterilization?"

"Against it."

"Against it."

"Or for it, whatever."

"So, help me understand this. I'm not a lawyer and you know, I have the utmost respect for you. You're establishing a procedure so individuals' sterilization rights can be protected or just establishing a procedure, correct?"

"This establishes the procedure."

"And I'm a ward of the state, but yet I have a guardian ad litem. You see how I can become more… anyone of us can become confused with this here?"

"I think, the confusion comes in that we're trying about protecting all parties involved, having a very clear process."

"Representative Dunkin, bring your remarks to a close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Representative. I'm trying… I'm still trying to figure out exactly, sort of, how if I'm a ward of the state, I have a guardian ad litem, and yet I am… you're still asking me to make a decision or judgment on my sterilization or not. It's just… it… do you understand the confusion here?" 09600033.doc 145  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"There… We are not talking about wards of the state. We're talking about persons who have a guardian ad litem."

"Who is considered a ward. Is the guardian… the person who has a guardian ad litem a ward, Representative? Representative, my time is ticking."

"I'm sorry. Okay. I misspoke."

"Help me un…"

"They are… they have a guardian."

"Yes."

"They are not a ward of the state, necessarily. There is a guardian…"

"But they are a ward, right."

"Right. And they have the opportunity through this process to have a guardian ad litem named to go through this process to protect their rights."

"But if they're not a ward of the state, the state's verify that they're a ward, correct?"

"They are not necessarily wards of the state."

"Then how does this…"

"There's a distinction between a guardian and a ward of the state."

"Well, what's a ward, again? If the state verifies or sanctions someone to be a ward or not…"

"A ward…"

"You said they're not a ward of the state, but yet they need a guardian ad litem to make decisions whether they should be sterilized or not. You see the confusion here?"

"A guardian is named for a ward who is unable to make their own decisions through a separate process." 09600033.doc 146  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"So, where does a ward come from?"

"That process we're not changing, we're not addressing."

"How does one become a ward, Representative, if the state doesn't certify or not?"

"However they become a ward currently; we're not changing that process."

"Does the city or the state certify if they're going to be a ward?"

"However… however that happens."

"Representative… Representative Dunkin…"

"Thank…"

"…your time is up."

"…thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Mulligan, for what reason do you rise?"

"Indicates she will."

"Yes."

"Yes."

"Yes."

"Yes." 09600033.doc 147  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

“Yes.”

"Yes."

"Of the ward."

"Yes."

"Yes."

"Yes."

"Yes."

"The court is given permissive authority for compensation… to offer compensation."

"The individual."

"Yes."

"Yes, thank you."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Flowers, for what reason do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, will the Lady yield for some questions?"

"…will."

"Representative, years ago I passed legislation prohibiting judges sentencing women to birth control pills because of the side effect and the unintended consequences of what the birth control pills may do and that's when the drug situation was rather bad. And so, when I think about this legislation and the sterilization of incapacitated 09600033.doc 149  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 people, I'm concerned because I do know of the newspaper stories of the women who had been impregnated, they were incapacitated and they were in the state's care, they were not wards. They were not wards, but they were incapacitated and they were impregnated. And I think we're doing a disservice here, because, number one, this is only applicable to women, because on page 2, you talk about the reproductive health matters and so, I… this is not fair across the board as far as all incapacitated people. So…"

"I would suggest that men have reproductive health care needs as well."

"Well, we could… so, is there a form of contraceptive and childbirth… do they have childbirth? Do they give childbirth, according to your Bill? Forms of contraceptive and childbirth."

"Could you… could you give us the reference in the Bill? Do you…"

"Well, I'm looking at line 20, page 2 of the Bill. ‘The guardian ad litem may also consult with the health care provider knowledgeable about reproductive health matters including sterilizations and other forms of contraceptive and childbirth.’ So, we know men don't give birth to children."

"Those are items that would be reviewed by the court in coming to… as part of the process."

"Representative, why is this legislation necessary?"

"Because currently, people are being sterilized against their will and we don't have a process by which the 09600033.doc 150  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 guardian has to apply to ensure that this is in the best interest of the individual."

"Well, first of all, if they're being sterilized against their will, that's already against the law. So, what is the purpose of this legislation, because it appears to me that you're giving the court permission… you're giving the guardian ad litem permission to allow this to happen. You're not talking about the ones that's being sterilized against their will."

"The law allows the guardian to makes those decisions for their wards. The ward is not protected against the decision made by their guardian and that's what this process would provide, that protection."

"I'm sorry. Would you please repeat that?"

"The law allows a guardian to make that decision for their ward. This law protects the ward by ensuring there is a process so the guardian has to go through…"

"So, this…"

"…the application process and a review through the court."

"So, this is protecting the guardian that has given permission…"

"No, the ward."

"…for the patient to be sterilized without the family's permission, but the guardian ad litem has given the permission and this is to protect them."

"No."

"Okay. Well, tell me, the people that's being sterilized now against their will, that's not against the law? You mean to tell me anyone can be…" 09600033.doc 151  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"The guardian can make that decision under current law."

"Okay. And so, the purpose of this legislation, once again."

"It’s to ensure that if a guardian makes that decision, there is a process in place to protect the interest and wishes of the ward."

"Now, how do we know that is the interest and the wishes of the ward, if that ward is incapacitated? How would… how would we be able…"

Speaker Turner: "Representative, bring your remarks to a close."

"Would you please answer that question? How would you be able to authenticate that this is the wish of a ward, if that ward is incapacitated?"

"Because a guardian ad litem is appointed so the ward's wishes and capacities are evaluated through the court process."

"The Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black, for what reason do you rise?"

"She indicates she will."

"Thank you."

"Yeah." 09600033.doc 152  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Yes."

"Yes."

"Correct."

"Or his, yes."

"Yes." 09600033.doc 153  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Thank you."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Morgan, Representative Watson, for what reason do you rise?"

"The Gentleman moved the previous question. The previous question is put. All those in favor say 'aye'. And the 'ayes' have it. And the previous question is put. Representative Ryg to close."

"Please vote 'yes'."

"Seeing no further questions, the question is, 'Shall the House pass House Bill 2290?' All those in favor should vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'aye', 1 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the 09600033.doc 154  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Gentleman from Jackson…"

"…Representative Bost."

"The record will so reflect. Members should turn in your Agreed… your Agreed Lists. Please turn in your Agreed Lists as soon as possible. The Lady from Cook, Representative Hernandez, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Speaker. I rise on a point of personal privilege."

"…your point."

"Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I ask you to join me in giving me a warm welcome to a tireless group of individuals that run the Main Street program back in my district of Berwyn. And they are Dario Solano, Alma Ortiz, Monica Lenaris, Patty Caraballo, Josie Caraballo. And also joining us is our alderman Michele Skryd from the 4th Ward in Berwyn who is also the president of Main Street. Let's give them a warm welcome."

Speaker Turner: "Welcome to Springfield. Representative Moffitt, we have House Bill 38. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Knox, Representative Moffitt." 09600033.doc 155  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Seeing…"

"Seeing no questions, the question is, 'Shall the House pass House Bill 38?' All those in favor should vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? 09600033.doc 156  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'aye', 0 'noes', 0 'presents'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Lady from Cook, Representative Mulligan, for what rea… Representative Mulligan, we have House Bill 4213. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Mulligan."

"Seeing no questions, the question is, 'Shall the House pass House Bill 4213?' All those in favor should vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'aye', 0 'noes', 0 'presents'. And this 09600033.doc 157  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Myers on House Bill 1131. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Gentleman from McDonough, Representative Myers."

"Seeing no questions, the question is, 'Shall the House pass House Bill 1131?' All those in favor should vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'aye', 0 'noes', 0 'presents'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black, for what reason do you rise?"

"State your point."

"With that in mind, Representative Osmond on House Bill 2251. Read the Bill."

"The Lady from Lake, Representative Osmond."

"Seeing no questions, the question is, 'Shall House Bill… I'm sorry. The Gentleman from Macon, Representative Flider, for what reason do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, in the spirit of being expeditious, I move the previous question."

"Seeing no further questions, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 2251 pass?' All those in favor should vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? 09600033.doc 159  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 Clerk… The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'aye', 0 'noes', 0 'presents'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. One more Republican Bill. House… Representative Pihos on House Bill 928. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Lady from DuPage, Representative Pihos."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Fritchey, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Sponsor, to the Bill."

"To the Bill."

"Representative, I'm not going to do the Vermilion rampage on you, but I want to bring a point up and that's this. I have seen a number of my colleagues on this side of the aisle present appropriation Bills for projects that were very laudable and very worthwhile, but cost money. And I've seen them be attacked on the floor for trying to appropriate hundreds of thousands of dollars for projects located in their district at a time of deep financial crisis, at a time when we have a multibillion dollar budget deficit, at a time when we're supposed to be making cuts, not spending more money. This is a laudable program. Sometimes laudable programs cost money and sometimes laudable programs that cost us money actually save us money down the road. And I think this is the type of program, as you ably explained, that fits in that category. My comments are to the bigger picture and my comments candidly are to a number of your colleagues, that if you like support on Bills like this and you understand that Bills 09600033.doc 161  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 like this make sense sometimes and Bills like this are appropriate sometimes and Members are elected to come down here to advocate for worthwhile programs in their districts, you support those Bills; you don't attack the Bills; you don't attack the programs; you don't attack the Sponsors as I have seen happen time and time again when this type of Bill has come over from somebody on this side of the aisle for a program that's more often than not an urban program, somewhere in Chicago, serving underserved communities, serving minority communities and we get told that we can't spend the money; it's not responsible to do, find a revenue stream, et cetera, et cetera. This Bill does none of that. This Bill says give $325 thousand to a good program in your district. And I'm going to support it and I think a lot of people over here are going to support it and I would simply ask for intellectual and professional courtesy and recognition when this type of Bill gets raised by a Member over here sometime. Thank you."

"Representative Eddy, did you want to speak?"

"I think he was just referring to you."

"So, the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Reboletti…"

"…for what reason do you rise?"

"No further questions, the question is, 'Shall the House pass House Bill 928?' All those in favor should say 'aye'… vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 87 'ayes', 26 'noes', 0 'presents'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 35 of the Calendar, we have House Bill 184, Representative Acevedo. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Acevedo." 09600033.doc 163  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 184 is an initiative of the Cook County State's Attorneys Office. This Bill adds the offense of forgery to the list of many that may be charged in a single indictment, information, or complaint. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Seeing no questions, the question is, 'Shall the House pass House Bill 184?' All those in favor should vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'aye', 0 'noes', 0 'presents'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Smith, we have House Bill 2491. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Fulton, Representative Smith."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is legislation for the Drycleaner Environmental Response Trust Fund. This is at the request of their council. Basically is cleanup to the existing Act that they operate under. Most of the changes here are at the request of the Department of Revenue who helps the council administer the program. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Seeing no questions, the question is, 'Shall the House pass House Bill 2491?' All those in favor should vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now 09600033.doc 164  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 94 voting 'aye', 19 voting 'no', 0 'presents'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Lady from Cook, Representative Mulligan, for what reason do you rise?"

"Your point is well-taken, Representative. On the Order of page… on page 34 of the Calendar, we have House Bill 13. Representative Arroyo. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"…from Cook, Representative Arroyo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. This Bill will create a line item in the budget for YouthBuild programs in all parts of our state. YouthBuild is a nationwide program teaching at-risk kids for construction skills, rehabbing homes, construction, connecting them to jobs. Illinois had up to 17 programs at one-time; we are now down to 4. Average youths are 16 to 24 years of age, high school dropouts, youth reentering life after incarceration, children incar… children of incarcerated parents or children of homeless or low-income families. YouthBuild continues their education, teaches them a trade in construction, link them to construction labor unions, links them to job placements or more schooling, links them to drug treatment and counseling, puts affordable housing back in our community. I urge an 'aye' vote and willing to answer any questions."

"The Gentleman from Crawford, Representative Eddy, for what reason do you rise?"

"Indicates he will."

"Yes."

"No, this would put it in there, Roger."

"No. It's been in the system for a while. We currently used to have 10. Now, we've lost the funding, so we only have 4 right now and we're looking to open more."

"No. I believe it's five."

"In this current year, DHS has discretion on youth services."

"Not yet."

"No, Roger, not yet."

"No."

"Right."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Fritchey, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates he will."

"Representative, you feel the program is a pretty good program, isn't it?"

"Very good, I think."

"What… what type of things does it do?"

"Well, it helps kids get a free apprenticeship program, so they can get jobs. When they come out of jail, they could get… there are… The four programs that are working right now are pretty good programs. When we had committee in Human Services, we had a couple of kids that came out and said that they finally were able to get a union job and 09600033.doc 169  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 then, you know, they were really happy about that. And also what it does is it is cheaper than putting a kid through ja… if a kid goes to jail, it's $70 thousand per year. So, YouthBuild is only 10 thousand a year."

"That… that… you know what, you're a step ahead of me because this is the type of Bill that we need to invest money in, but actually, not only does it help train kids to become productive members of society, but when you do that, the odds of those kids winding up in trouble on the streets goes down dramatically. And when you do that, the odds of them winding up in jail goes down dramatically and the cost involved in incarceration goes down dramatically. So what we are doing is investing money to actually save money down the road while at the same time making these kids more productive members of society, correct?"

"Absolutely… absolutely."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, I did not know that this Bill was coming up, but I will submit to you that this is exactly what I was talking about before. The Gentleman has a Bill for an appropriation that is actually statewide not just districtwide for… that does some very, very good things that are very important for kids in his area, for kids in my area, but things that will save the state money down the long… down the road in the long run. And I would sincerely hope that some of you will have listened to my plea for professional and intellectual honesty beforehand and each and every one of you that supported Representative Pihos's legislation for a good program that saves the state money in the long run, will do the right thing and support 09600033.doc 170  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 this legislation that saves money and does a good thing and helps us all in the long run. What goes around comes around. Thank you."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Lake, Representative Sullivan, for what reason do you rise?"

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Fritchey, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Speaker. My name was used in debate. Representative, let… let me… let me clarify something. By no means did I intend to personalize any of this and I'll tell you what, if you voted 'no' on the previous 09600033.doc 171  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 legislation, you should vote 'no' on this Bill as well. All right. That is intellectually honest to do and I submit that. If you think that the prior program was a bad program or that this program was a bad program, then I can see somebody opposing it. My… my concern and you're right, there are some procedural issues here, big picture. What I was trying to get at though, was that there are times that there are laudable expenditures and ones that we can recognize as being a good thing and that we should treat these with an even hand to the extent that you are doing that, I respect you for doing it. I think you know the point that I was trying to make where people aren't going to simply rally around and say, well, when it's somebody on our side that has a Bill like that, we'll support it, but if it's somebody on their side, we won't. So, that's the only point. I just wanted to make sure that my comments weren't misconstrued."

"The Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black, for what reason do you rise?"

"Seeing no further questions, the question is, 'Shall the House pass House Bill 13?' All those in favor should vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 81 voting 'aye', 32 voting 'no', 0 'presents'. 09600033.doc 174  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of Third Readings, we have Representative Reis on House Bill 3956. The Gentleman from Jasper, Representative Reis. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Monique Davis, for what reason do you rise?" Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates he will." Davis, M.: "Representative, you say your Bill passed out of here twice?"

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Froehlich, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield for a question?"

"Indicates he will."

"Yeah. Representative Reis, other states may do a better job of enforcing speed limits than we do. Would you concede that in Illinois it's not unusual, especially on rural interstates, for vehicles to go 10 miles even 20 miles over the limit?"

"Well, my concern is that if that same 10 to 20 mile an hour over the limit, you know, practice prevails, as it does now, then you'd have these big rigs going not 65 but 75 or 80. And I wonder if you think it's safe, you've mentioned traffic safety, for vehicles that big knowing how 09600033.doc 178  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 long it takes them to stop to be traveling 75 and 80 miles an hour?"

"On occasion, but…"

"Well, but actually to answer your question, the state I drive in more is Wisconsin and boy, I stay pretty close to the speed limit because of their reputation there for enforcing the speed limit much more closer to the actual limit than we do in Illinois."

"Well, I understand, but you…"

"Well, we know that people drive over the limit here, 10 to 20 over, I'm just worried, if this passes, we'll have the big rigs going not 65 but 75 and 80 and I don't think that promotes traffic safety. Thank you."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Jackson, Representative Bost, for what reason do you rise?"

"Indicates he will."

"…Bill."

"The Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black, for what reason do you rise?"

"End your remarks."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Cook, Representative McCarthy, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move the previous question."

"Gentleman moves the previous question. The previous question is put. All those in favor say 'aye'. The 'ayes' have it. And the previous question is put. Representative Reis to close."

"Seeing no further questions, the question is, 'Shall the House pass House Bill 3956?' All those in favor 09600033.doc 184  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 should vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 77 voting 'aye', 35 voting 'no', 0 'presents'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. I've got one more Third Reading Bill. Representative… Representative Verschoore on House Bill 644. The Gentleman from Jackson, Representative Bost, for what reason do you rise?"

"Mr. Clerk, on the Order of Third Readings, we have House Bill 644. Representative Verschoore. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Turner: "Representative Verschoore, I understand there's an Amendment on this Bill. The Sponsor asks to bring the Bill back to Second Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Gentleman from Rock Island, Representative Verschoore."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. What this Bill does is it allows townships to shut off the water if people do not pay their sewer bills and it only 09600033.doc 185  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 affects 10 townships. Most cities have this right now and this would just allow them to do that so they could collect their fees. I'd be glad to answer any questions."

"Seeing no questions, the question is, 'Shall the House… I'm sorry. The Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black, for what reason do you rise?"

"Yes, you can."

"Right."

"Right."

"Right."

"Right. I'm sorry, yes."

"Yeah."

"Seeing no further questions, the question is, 'Shall the House adopt Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 644?' All those in favor should say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Ladies and Gentlemen, we're going to go to the Order of Second Readings to move some Bills to Third Readings. So, I'd ask that you listen attentively to make certain you're ready to move that legislation. The first Bill that we're going to call is Representative Bellock on House Bill 277. Out of the record. The next Bill we're going to call is Representative Cavaletto on House Bill 770. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Marion, Representative Cavaletto."

"Seeing no questions, the question is, 'Shall the House adopt Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 770?' All those in favor should say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment passes. Further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Representative Fortner, we have House Bill 806. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09600033.doc 187  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

Speaker Turner: "Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Fortner."

"Seeing no questions, the question is, 'Shall the House adopt Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 806?' All those in favor should vote 'aye'; all tho… should say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Representative Poe, we have House Bill 1004. It's on the Order of Second Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Pritchard, we have House Bill 2253. Pritchard. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Gentleman from DeKalb on Representative… on Floor Amendment #2."

"Seeing no further questions, the question is, 'Shall the House adopt Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 2253?' All those in favor should say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And Amendment #2 is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Representative Ramey, we have House Bill 4211. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Out of the record. Representative Reboletti, we have House Bill 1105. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Reboletti, we have House Bill 2643. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Reboletti, we have House… Representative Sacia, we have House Bill 583. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. Representative Sacia, your Bill has notes on it. It will remain on Second. Representative Farnham on House Bill 705. Representative Farnham. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Hannig, we have House Bill 2405. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Lang on Amendment #1."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a technical Amendment that corrects the spelling of a word."

"Representative Lang moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 2405. All those in favor should say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Representative May, House Bill 1042. Out of the record. Representative McCarthy, we have House Bill 2318. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Cook, Representative McCarthy."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment #1 changes two words. It changes the Department of Human Services to the Department of Public Health to correct a drafting error. So, I'd move for its adoption."

"Seeing no further questions, the question is, 'Shall the House adopt Amendment #1 to House Bill 2318?' All those in favor should say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And Floor Amendment #1 is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, what's the status of House Bill 152?"

"Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Mendoza, do you want to move 152? There's an Amendment in Rules. So, we'll hold this Bill then. How about 2490? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Thapedi, we have House Bill 1793. Out of the record. House Bill 2005, Representative Thapedi. Out of the record. Representative Reitz, we have House Bill 3830. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Walker, we have House Bill 4120. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading… Third Reading. Representative Yarbrough, we have House Bill 602. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Saviano, we have House Bill 579. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09600033.doc 192  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Third Reading. Representative Schmitz, we have House Bill 4047. Read the Bill, Mr… Out of the record. Representative Senger, we have House Bill 1313. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Lady from Will, Representative Senger."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from McLean, Representative Brady, for what reason do you rise?"

"State your point."

"Welcome to Springfield. The Lady from Cook, Representative Davis, for what reason do you rise?" Davis, M.: "I'd like the Representative to please explain her Amendment."

"Seeing no further questions, the question is, 'Shall the House adopt Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 1313?' All those in favor should say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?" 09600033.doc 194  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Third Reading. Representative Sullivan, House Bill 3716. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Out of the record. Out of the record. Sorry, out of the record. We're going to go back to the Order of Third Readings. We have Representative Eddie Washington on House Bill 2678. The Gentleman from Lake, Representative Washington. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk, I'm sorry."

"House Bill 2678."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 2678 provides that a delinquent minor may be placed in electronic home detention as his or her sentence according to the juvenile electronic home detention law which House Bill 2678 creates. This Bill is intended to give the courts more options than placing juveniles in detention facilities. And I can answer any questions."

"The Gentleman from Crawford, Representative Eddy, for what reason do you rise?"

"He indicates he will."

"I'm sorry, Representative, I didn't catch that last… what type of what?"

"This… Well, let me… let me… let me share this with you. The genesis of this Bill comes of bringing the courts relief. I've talked with a number of people in the court system who said that there are juveniles who commit minor offenses who are going to spend less than 90 days or so in jail, will be a prime candidate for home detention monitoring which would serve as the incarcerated time and take some of the tax burdens off the taxpayer in terms of putting a juvenile in a facility that they're going to be there less than 90 days."

"So, the program is for a period not longer than to last 90 days of incarceration. So, that would kind of give you an idea, Representative, of the minor offenses that this would alleviate some of the tax burdens on the taxpayer."

"That's correct."

"Let me… let me help you, if I… and may."

"The crime the program doesn't cover. Delinquent minors cannot be placed in an electronic home detention program for the following crime… this answers your question… first degree murder, escape, criminal sexual assault, avagrated… aggravated battery with a firearm, bringing or possessing a firearm or explosives in a penal institution, any 'Super-X' drug offenses or calculated criminal drug or street gang conspiracy. Those are the crimes that the program doesn't cover. The 'supervising authority' means the Department of Juvenile Justice, probation supervisory authority, sheriff, superintendent of a juvenile detention center or any other officer or agency charged with authorizing and supervising home… supervising home detention."

"You got it, Representative."

"Representative, why don't you come on and join me on this."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Reboletti, for what reason do you rise?"

"Indicates he will."

"Crime… crime that the program doesn't cover. Delinquent minors cannot be placed in an electronic home detention program for first degree murder, escape, criminal sexual assault, aggravated battery with a firearm, bringing or possessing a firearm or explosives in a penal institution or any 'super-X drug…"

"…offenses or calculated criminal drug or street gang conspiracy."

"Well, Representative, I hope that one of the sources of funding is the money that we would save on incarcerating or feeding and taking care of an individual."

"Yes, Sir."

"Seeing no further questions, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 2678 pass?' All those in favor should vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The sun is shining. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there 92 voting 'aye', 18 voting 'no', 0 'presents'. And this Bill, having 09600033.doc 199  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of Third Readings, we have House Bill 596. Representative Zalewski. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 596 is an initiative of the Cook County State's Attorneys Office. It adds aggravated domestic battery to the list of crimes for which a defendant must serve 85 percent of his sentence. I won't take up too much of the Body's time. I'd ask for an 'aye' vote. And be happy to ask any questions… answer any questions asked."

"Seeing no questions… The Lady from Cook, Representative Graham, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates he will."

"I'm sorry. I… I did not hear exactly what you said this legislation does. Can you… can you repeat that for me, please?"

"Yes, Ma'am. It effectively adds aggravated domestic battery to the list of crimes for which a person sentenced to this crime will serve 85 percent of their sentence. It's a truth in sentencing initiative by the Cook County State's Attorneys Office."

"So, the sentence is basically about domestic violence?"

"Yes, Ma'am." 09600033.doc 200  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Oh, okay. All right. Thanks."

"No further questions, the question is, 'Shall the House pass House Bill 596?' All those in favor should vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 109 voting 'aye', 1 'no', 0 'presents'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Congratulations. No. On the Order of Second Readings, we have House Bill 3656. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 2425."

"Third Reading. Representative Mautino in the Chair."

"Mr. Clerk, on page 30 of the Calendar appears House Bill 3987. Read the Bill."

"The Lady from Cook on Floor Amendment 1, Representative Hamos."

"Thank you, Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. This is the energy efficient building Code. I'm putting it in final form. This is just one Amendment. There will be two other Amendments sent to committee. But this first Amendment deals with four different issues all of which are on the nature of technical issues that were discussed in committee briefly and there are changes in the definition of 'residential building'. It includes the City of Chicago's recommended definition for additions, alterations, renovations. It moves the implementation date forward to… to force the Capital Development Board to do rulemaking a little more expeditiously. And finally, at the urging of the committee, we also said that municipalities that have adopted a Code, at least as stringent as the 2006 IECC Code, by the effective date of this Act would be keeping those. So, again, we're just trying to put the Bill in final shape and then we will, I'm sure, have a full robust debate on Third Reading."

"The Lady has moved passage for adoption of Amendment #1. On that, no one seeking recognition, all in favor signify by saying 'aye'; opposed say 'no'. The voting… Have all voted who wish? In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Any further Amendments?" 09600033.doc 202  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Third Reading. Representative Hamos, what would you like?"

"Second Reading. Please keep it on Second Reading."

"At the request of the Sponsor…"

"Two further Amendments have been sent to committee or will be sent to committee."

"At the request of the Sponsor, the Bill will remain on Second. Mr. Clerk, on page 18 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2325. Representative May. Read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 29 of the Calendar appears House Bill 3909. Representative Ramey. Read the Bill."

Speaker Mautino: "The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Ramey on Floor Amendment 1."

Speaker Mautino: "The Gentleman moves adoption of Floor Amendment 1. All in favor say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, are there any further Amendments?"

Speaker Mautino: "Third Reading. On page 29… 25 of the Calendar appears House Bill 3632. Representative Feigenholtz. Out of the record. Page 17 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2298. Representative Collins. Out of the record. Page 13 of the Calendar appears House Bill 1129. Representative Collins. Out of the record. Mr. Clerk, page 17 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2254. Representative Monique Davis. Read the Bill."

"The Lady from Cook on re… on Amendment 1, Representative Davis." Davis, M.: "Floor Amendment #1 re… reduces the… those who will be able to avail themselves to this program to elementary schools. They took the high school out and just K through 8 will be able to use this program."

"The Lady moves passage… adoption of Floor Amendment 1. All in favor say 'aye'; opposed same sign. 09600033.doc 204  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. On page 23 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2694. Representative Bellock. Out of the record. Page 21 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2546. Representative Black. Read the Bill."

Speaker Mautino: "Third Reading. Page 32 of the Calendar appears House Bill 4153. Representative Bost. Read the Bill."

Speaker Mautino: "Third Reading. Page 33 of the Calendar appears House Bill 4209. Representative Bost. Read the Bill."

Speaker Mautino: "For what reason does the Gentleman from Jasper, Representative Reis, seek… Out of the record. On Floor Amendment #1, the Gentleman from Jackson, Representative Bost." 09600033.doc 205  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"The Gentleman moves passage… moves adoption of Floor Amendment 1. All in favor signify by 'aye'; opposed same sign. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments, Mr. Clerk."

"The Gentleman from Jackson, Representative Bost on Floor Amendment 2."

"The Gentleman moves adoption of Amendment 2. All in favor signify by 'aye'; opposed same sign. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. On page 32 of the Calendar appears House Bill 4186. Representative William Davis. For the rec… Out of the record. Page 2 of the Calendar appears House Bill 67. Representative Ford. Out of the record. Page 32 of the Calendar appears House Bill 4078. Representative Franks. Read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, page 32 of the Calendar appears House Bill 4186. Representative William Davis. Read the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook on Floor Amendment 1, Will Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. The way the Bill was originally drafted it asked that all of the grant making functions be placed in the Department of Labor. The Department of Labor asked that that be changed from the Department of Labor to our Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity which generally is the grant making agency here at the state. So, I ask for the adoption of the Amendment."

Speaker Mautino: "The Gentleman moves adoption of Floor Amendment #1. All in favor signify by 'aye'; opposed same sign. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Yes, Representative Davis, the Gentleman from Cook, for what reason do you seek recognition?" Davis, W.: "Well, Mr. Speaker, with that Bill, 4186, it is still a work in progress. So, I ask that, even with the 09600033.doc 207  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 adoption of the Amendment, that it be placed back on Second Reading."

"Mr. Clerk, would you return 4186 to Second Reading. Thank you, Mr. Davis. On page 3 of the Calendar appears House Bill 170. Representative Tryon. Out of the record. Page 5 of the Calendar appears House Bill 261. Representative Lang. Read the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Lang on Floor Amendment 2."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. Amendment #2 takes two portions of this Bill back to current law. One would keep the head tax at the Rock Island casino where it is under current law and the other would continue to have the state pay for the expenses in administration of the Gaming Board. So, all this Amendment does is take a couple of small portions of the Bill as it came out of committee and take it back to where current law is today."

"The Gentleman moves adoption on Amendment 2. On that question, the Gentleman from Lake, Representative Sullivan."

"They did not weigh in in committee, Representative, on other issues, but the issues that they did speak about would be reflected in this Amendment."

"I can't tell you what their comments are regarding the rest of the Bill…"

"…because they never commented on it, but I would tell you that they never… none of these folks ever came to me and complained about the rest of the Bill."

"Well, I can't tell you that, but I can tell you that I met with them and they were all smiling when the meeting was over."

"The Gentleman has moved adoption on Floor Amendment 2. All in favor signify by 'aye'; opposed same sign. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"Third Reading. On page 5 of the Calendar appears House Bill 264. Representative Miller. Out of the 09600033.doc 209  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 record. On page 5 of the Calendar appears House Bill 326. Representative Pihos. Read the Bill."

"On Floor Amendment 2, Representative Pihos."

"The Lady moves adoption of Floor Amendment 2. And on that question, the Gentleman from Crawford, Representative Eddy."

"The Lady has moved passage of Floor Amendment 2. All in favor signify by 'aye'; opposed same sign. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"

"Place that Bill on Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, on page 37 of the Calendar appears House Bill 721. What's the status of that Bill?" 09600033.doc 210  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Please return that Bill to Second Reading for the purpose of an Amendment. Now, read the Bill."

"On Floor Amendment #1, the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Fortner."

Speaker Mautino: "The Gentleman has moved passage… moved adoption of Amendment #1. All in favor signify by 'aye'; opposed same sign. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment are… is adopted. Mr. Clerk, are there any further Amendments?"

Speaker Mautino: "Third Reading. Page 10 of the Calendar appears House Bill 796. Representative Dugan. Out of the record. Page 38 of the Calendar appears House Bill 862. Representative Black. Read the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black…"

"…on Floor Amendment 1."

Speaker Mautino: "The Gentleman moves adoption of Floor Amendment 1. All in favor signify by 'aye'; opposed same sign. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. On page 16 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2238. Representative Berrios. Out of the record. Page 19 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2386. Representative Hernandez. Out of the record. Page 21 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2573. Representative Mell. Read the Bill."

"On Floor Amendment 2, the Lady from Cook, Representative Mell." 09600033.doc 212  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"I… This Amendment addresses some issues that were brought up in committee. It reduces the penalty if they are in violation of posting this poster. And it also gives them another option as to addressing sexual harassment."

"The Lady moves adoption of Floor Amendment 2. And on that question, the Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black."

Speaker Mautino: "Mr. Clerk, what's the status of Floor Amendment 1?"

"A reasonable request."

"Let me check and see if the…"

"…if the Amendment is in order. Mr. Black, in answer to your inquiry, Amendment 2 has been recommended to be adopted. That answer your… your inquiry." 09600033.doc 213  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009

"Always delighted to respond quickly to you… a fellow downstater, Mr. Black. Further questions? Representative Eddy, the Gentleman from Crawford."

"She indicates she will."

"Yes… yes, it does. And it also… we also included some ideas from Representative Rose that he brought up in committee."

"It's… you know, it's… we just want to make people more aware of sexual harassment and what they can do about it…"

"…and not really punitive."

"Oh, okay. Sure. Yeah."

"The Lady moves adoption of Floor Amendment 2. All in favor signify by 'aye'; opposed same sign. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, are there any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. On page 22 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2602. Representative McCarthy. Out of the record. On page 25 of the Calendar appears House Bill 3639. Representative May. Out of the record. On page 26 of the Calendar appears House Bill 3721. Representative Kosel. Read the Bill."

"The Lady from Will, Representative Kosel on Floor Amendment 2."

"The Lady's moved passage of Floor Amendment 2. All in favor signify by 'aye'; opposed same sign. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, are there any further Amendments?"

Speaker Mautino: "Mr. Clerk, on page 40 of the Calendar appears… Mr. Clerk, on House Bill 3721 move that Bill to 09600033.doc 215  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 Third. On page 41 of the Calendar appears House Bill 3878. What's the status of that Bill?"

Speaker Mautino: "Out of the record. On page 40 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2627. Representative Collins. Out of the record. Page 28 of the Calendar appears House Bill 3844. Representative Lang. Read the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Lang on Amendment 2."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is an agreed technical Amendment. I move adoption."

"The Gentleman moves adoption of Amendment 2. All in favor signify by 'aye'; opposed same sign. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. On page 29 of the Calendar appears House Bill 3909. Representative Ramey. Read the Bill. Okay. The Gentleman's Bill is on Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of House Bill 3925 on page 29 of the Calendar? Read the Bill."

"Representative Coulson."

Speaker Mautino: "Representative Coulson moves adoption of Amendment #1. All in favor say 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. On page 29 of the Calendar appears House Bill 3919. Representative Burns. Out of the record. On page 33 of the Calendar appears House Bill 4249. Representative Pihos. Read the Bill."

Speaker Mautino: "On Amendment #2, the Lady from DuPage, Representative Pihos."

"The Lady moves adoption of Amendment 2. All in favor signify by 'aye'; opposed same sign. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. On page 33 of the Calendar appears House Bill 4251. Representative Phelps. Out of the record. On page 17 of the Calendar is House Bill 2275. Representative Osmond. Read the Bill."

"Representative Osmond."

"Representative Osmond moves passage… moves adoption of Floor Amendment 1. All in favor say 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. On page 23 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2766. Representative Coulson. Read the Bill."

"There's a Floor Amendment which is still in the Rules Committee. One moment. I'll find the status on that and with the Sponsor's permission, I'll take that Bill out of the record temporarily. Leave that Bill on Second Reading. On page 31 of the Calendar appears House Bill 4049. Representative Schmitz. Out of the record. On page 18 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2369. Representative Gordon. Representative Gordon, do you wish to move House Bill 2369? Read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 6 of the Calendar appears House Bill 327. Representative McAsey. Read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 31 of the Calendar appears House Bill 4046. Representative Joyce. Out of the record. On page 20 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2451. Representative Dunkin. Out of the record. On page 26 of the Calendar appears House Bill 3722. Representative Burns. Out of the record. Page 2 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2. Representative Flider. Read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 20 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2445. Representative Chapa LaVia. Representative Chapa LaVia. Read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 11 of the Calendar appears House Bill 881. Representative Mendoza. Read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 22 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2615. Representative Osterman. Read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 41 of the Calendar appears House Bill 4088. Majority Leader Currie. Read the Bill."

"Majority Leader Currie on Floor Amendment 2."

"Thank you, Speaker. This is basically a two-word change and it deals with people who report credit things instead of saying it to the extent that they are in accordance with… with federal or state statute. It would say 'permitted' or 'allowed' by federal or a state statute. So, it's a technical change. I'd appreciate your support for the Amendment."

"The Lady moves adoption of Floor Amendment #2. All in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. On page 30 of the Calendar appears House Bill 3953. Representative Osterman. Read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On the Calendar, page 46, appears House Resolution 108. Representative Currie moves the adoption of the Resolution. All in favor say 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Resolution is adopted. It's now the intent of the Chair to table some Bills which are on the Calendar, page 47 and 48. If there's leave, we will take them in one Motion. Is there 09600033.doc 221  STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 33rd Legislative Day 3/26/2009 leave? Leave is… House Bill 199, House Bill 368, House Bill 2679, House Bill 3783, House Bill 3966, House Bill 4073, House Bill 4135, House Resolution 128. All in favor… Representative Currie moves… Representative Currie now moves we table the preceding Bills. All in favor 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And these Bills are tabled. On page 45 of the Calendar is House Resolution 97. Representative Reitz. Mr. Clerk, read the… On the Resolution, Mr. Reitz."

"Thank you, Mr. Chair… Mr. Speaker. House Resolution 97 creates the green-collar workforce. This is an initiative of community colleges and it would… it would set up a program to create a sustainability network within the community college program and try to access moneys, hopefully, in the stimulus package to set that up throughout the state. I think we have… the community colleges are a great conduit for us to hopefully capitalize on some of the new jobs that green technology will create in the coming years. And I'd be… appreciate your support and be happy to answer any questions."

"All those in favor of House Resolution 97 say 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

"Representative Currie now moves adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All in favor 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Mr. Clerk, committee announcements."

"For what reason does the Lady from Cook, Representative Nekritz, seek recognition?"

"For purposes of an announcement. The creative team for the Capitol Capers program will be meeting right after Session and if you can't get there 'til after committees, fine, in Representative Bellock's office. So, that… you got good ideas for the Capitol Capers, please join us. Thank you."

Speaker Mautino: "No one else seeking recognition. Now, allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk, Representative Currie moves the House stand adjourned until Friday, March 27, at 9 a.m. All in favor signify by 'aye'; opposed same sign. The 'ayes' have it. And the House stands adjourned."