Illinois House Floor Debate — March 30, 2011

"The House will be in order. Members will be in their chairs. We shall be led in prayer today by Pastor J. Wesley Wilkey who is with the Faith United Methodist Church in Champaign, Illinois. Pastor Wilkey is the guest of Representative Franks… is the guest of Representative Rose. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their lap tops, turn off all cell phones and pagers, and rise for the invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance. Pastor Wilkey."

"We'll be led in the Pledge of Allegiance today by our newest Member, Representative Smith." Smith – et al: "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Speaker Lang: "Roll Call for Attendance. Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Let the record reflect that there are no excused absences among House Democrats today."

"Representative Bost."

Speaker Lang: "Thank you. Mr. Dunkin, Durkin, Farnham, Flowers, Franks, please record yourselves. Mr. Dunkin. 09700032.doc 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 And please take the record, Mr. Clerk. There being 116 Members present, there is a quorum. Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Clerk, on Supplemental Calendar #1, there appears House Bill 117. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Please read House Bill 132."

"Third Reading. Please read House Bill 3639."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of House Bill 1530?"

"Please place that Bill on the Order of Second Reading at the request of the Sponsor. On page 35 of the 09700032.doc 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 Calendar, under House Bills-First Reading, appears House Bill 1446. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"And that Bill shall be placed on the Order of Second Reading. And on page 37 of the Calendar under the Order of House Resolutions, there appears House Resolution 158. Representative Beiser. Mr. Beiser."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Resolution 158, who is cosponsored by 38 other Members at this point, is a very simple, straightforward Resolution, and it's an outgrowth of House Resolution 110 in which we set forth the revenue estimate that we believed to be accurate and conservative for the fiscal year commencing July 1st. And simply stated House Resolution says, should revenues exceed what we have appropriated in House… and identified in House Resolution 110, then those excess revenues shall be used to pay the unpaid bills that our vendors that have been waiting for months and months for so many years, time and time again. So, it's a very simple, straightforward Resolution, a furtherance of what we've done budgetwise here in the House on both sides of the aisle. And I would ask for everyone's 'aye' vote."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Resolution. On that question, the Chair recognizes Representative Eddy."

"The Gentleman yields." 09700032.doc 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Yes, Sir."

"It's my intention, and I believe House Resolution talks about general fund revenue, and I think it that's… it's that what we're talking about, Roger."

"It is not discussed, but I think the way the Comptroller's Office historically has treated that is oldest bills first unless there's exceptional cases in which they have the discretion."

"Yes, Sir."

"I'm wanting to just deal with the House Resolution 110 revenues versus what we actually would receive."

"I'm told six billion and plus."

"No, I do not. But I'll tell you the… the reason for this, and I think it's shared on both sides of the aisle, is that I think by the fact that we are being conservative in our appropriations, there's a likelihood especially given the fact that two other forecasting bodies have forecasted higher general fund revenues than the House has. I think it's prudent to be conservative and also to plan forward that should we get more revenue than we estimate that it goes towards unpaid bills rather than looking at other ways to spend money before those unpaid bills have been taken care of."

"Mr. Sullivan."

"Representative Will Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Gentleman yields." Davis, W.: "Representative, do you have any idea how much money is going to be in excess?"

"No, I do not." Davis, W.: "What is the rationale by which the backlog of bills might be paid if there is an excess?"

"Like I mentioned previously, historically, the Comptroller's Office, over the years, has paid oldest bills first; however, they do have the discretion should there be an exceptional case. For instance, a facility that serves the disadvantaged may go out of business or may have to curtail their programs, then they do have that ability to take those into consideration." Davis, W.: "But how do we… I mean… so we're just… it's really just up to the Comptroller to determine which bills would be paid first if there's excess of resources?"

"That's part of the responsibilities of the Comptroller's Office." Davis, W.: "Well, but I mean, even right now working through the Governor's Office and maybe some direct contact with the Comptroller's Office, you could place a phone call and ask them if a voucher has been submitted and there's resources that they might pay a bill currently, which may not fall in any particular order. So, I just want to understand how they would institute such a program, for 09700032.doc 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 lack of a better word, if there is excess resources that become available. How do I know? I mean, there… obviously, there are a number of needs in the state. There are hospitals that need payments. There are community- based organizations that need payments. Who… I mean, are we really leaving it up to the Comptroller to determine what would be paid if there is excess resources?"

"And I think… I think we are because I think what we've all experienced, all of us that have been in this Body for the past few years, we've received numerous calls from constituents or programs that have… the state owes money, whether it be schools or programs for the disadvantaged seniors or disadvantaged developmentally disabled. And the protocol that I've been told to follow is, call the Comptroller's Office and see where they're at in the payment cycle. And again, this Resolution does not dictate how those bills… how the Comptroller's Office shall pay those bills. It just says that should we have a pot of money that's in excess of over our rev… revenue estimate, it has to go towards unpaid bills." Davis, W.: "Well, I think therein lies my point, Representative, is obviously I know there are a number of needs that exist here in the state, but my concern is the manner in which the Comptroller's Office. Assuming that they have complete discretion and authority to do this, how and what manner they would pay bills, and whose bills would they pay first? Would they take into consideration low- income communities, struggling community-based organizations, or would they be more inclined to pay 09700032.doc 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 corporations that have resources even though they're owed money. But are they more inclined to pay… basically pay who… I think you understand what I'm getting at, Representative, and not that I'm disagreeing with the Resolution, but the Resolution really doesn't lay any particular rhyme or reason how those dollars should be expended, and therein lies my problem."

"Right." Davis, W.: "So… so…"

"I understand. And Will, I think what… currently, even though we don't have a lump sum or a tremendous amount of money to go towards unpaid bills, unpaid bills are being paid as available monies are there. And we don't dictate nor do we try to dictate how those bills are paid when current monies are there. We're just saying that if that… a pot of money would happen to be in excess of what we've estimated, we're saying it's prudent to go to unpaid bills because those vendors and those programs have been waiting so long for payment. Currently, we don't dictate how they… when they get monies available and this Resolution does not attempt to do that either." Davis, W.: "Well… well, not to belabor the point, well, then just let me ask…"

"Yes." Davis, W.: "…if not paying an unpaid bill, what would the Comptroller's Office be doing with the resources?"

"No, they're paying the bills as they… as the money becomes available, and we're just saying that should this money… this is additional money, then they would have to 09700032.doc 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 pay the unpaid bills first before anything else could be appropriated." Davis, W.: "Okay, Representative. Thank you very much."

"Certainly."

"Mr. Beiser to close."

"I would simply ask this Body for an 'aye' vote. I think it's the right method to take when we have, if… should we have any excess monies over what we estimate. I think it's time, like we said, we start doing the conservative budget estimates which House Resolution 110 does, and this just furthers that… furthers that cause. And ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Members, this will be a recorded Roll Call. Those in favor of the Resolution shall vote 'yes'; those opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Mell. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 114 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present'. And the Resolution is adopted. The Chair recognizes Representative Dan Burke."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. I rise on a point of personal privilege."

"State your point."

"Yesterday, during the debate on the House Bill 1965, I suggested to this Body that the Indiana Legislature had passed a Bill that would exempt casinos, VFWs, and nursing homes. I misspoke, Ladies and Gentlemen. The fact is, the House of Representatives of Indiana had passed that measure, not the full Legislature, so as the media has 09700032.doc 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 reported my blatant lie, I humbly beg your forgiveness, and suggest that if that had persuaded you to vote for the Bill, I beg your indulgence, and certainly, forgive me for that misspoken fact. Thank you."

"Thank you, Representative. Members, we're going to be continuing with your first priority Bills by alphabetical order, but we're going to start with Bills that are on your priority list on Second Reading. And so the first Bill on this Order would be House Bill 1391, Representative John Bradley. Mr. Bradley. Out of the record. House Bill 2084, Representative Crespo. Out of the record. House Bill 1461, Representative Cunningham. Please read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1748, Representative Lilly. Please read the Bill." 09700032.doc 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Third Reading. House Bill 3376, Mr. McCarthy. Out of the record. House Bill 1084, Representative Mussman. Representative Mussman. Do you wish to move 1084, Representative Mussman? Please read the Bill."

"Representative Mussman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 1084 creates the Business Mandate Note Act. Provides that every Bill which may in effect raise the cost of doing business in the State of Illinois may have a brief explanatory statement of the proposed cost, requested before the Second Reading in the House. Provides that the Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity shall prepare the note with assistance as necessary from the businesses in the community, the ICC, the LRU or any other statewide organization."

Speaker Lang: "The Lady's moved for the adoption of the Amendment. There being no discussion, those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it, the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Returning to House Bill 1461, Mr. Clerk, what is the status of that Bill?"

Speaker Lang: "Please return that to the Order of Second Reading at the request of the Sponsor. And returning to House Bill 3376, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2875, Mr. Phelps. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1907, Mr. Zalewski. Please read the Bill. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of House Bill 1907?"

"This Bill will be held… the Chair recognizes Representative Zalewski."

"Mr. Speaker, I had asked that the note, the correctional note on this Bill be ruled inapplicable." 09700032.doc 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"The Gentleman's moved that the note be held inapplicable. Is there discussion? The Chair recognizes Representative Reis. Mr. Reis does not wish to speak. Mr. Eddy… who does not wish to speak. The Gentleman has made a Motion to hold the note request inapplicable. And the Chair recognizes Representative Thapedi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. May I make an inquiry of the Sponsor?"

"Gentleman yields."

"Representative, why exactly is the correctional note not applicable to this particular provision?"

"Representative, the Member who filed the note request is no longer a Member of the chamber."

"Is that the sole reason?"

"If you'd like another reason, it's my belief that the requested note, the correctional note, won't have any impact on the Bill, won't have any impact on the Department of Corrections, and in fact, may increase the revenue for the Department of Corrections through prosecution of criminal enterprises."

"But you would agree though that that correctional note would provide some very relevant and important information…"

"I acknowledge…"

"…for us to make a determination after the feasibility of this measure. Would you not agree with me?"

"Representative, I don't think that the note I'll give this chamber any insight whatsoever."

"Thank you." 09700032.doc 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Once again, the Gentleman has moved to hold the note… the request inapplicable. Those in favor shall vote 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Dugan, Franks, Golar, Greg Harris, May. Mr. Franks, Mr. Harris. Please take the record. On this question, there are 96 voting 'yes', 18 voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present'. And the Gentleman's Motion carries, the notes are held inapplicable. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3175, Mr. Brauer. Please read the Bill. Excuse me, Mr. Clerk. Out of the record. House Bill 161, Mr. Rose. Please read the Bill."

"That Bill shall be held on the Order of Second Reading. Now Members, we're returning to the alphabetical listing on Bills that are on the Order of Third Reading. The first Bill on this Order will be House Bill 1855. Mr. Acevedo. Out of the record. House Bill 1375, Mr. Beiser. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Beiser." 09700032.doc 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. This is an initiative of the operating engineers and the general contractors. It's… requires contracting entities to maintain an office in Illinois in order to qualify as a responsible bidder under the Procurement Code. I'd be happy to answer any questions. But I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor shall vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Feigenholtz, Mell, Nekritz. Record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Representative Reis."

"State your inquiry, Sir."

"We will take that under advisement. The… these are all Bills that are still a first Bill for people, so no one's getting their second bite at the apple yet, but your point is well made and we'll consider it, Sir."

"Mr. Stephens." 09700032.doc 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"You want to discuss that with Mr. Zalewski, Sir? The Chair recognizes Representative Farnham."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"State your point, Sir."

"I am… on behalf of the people of the 43rd District in the State of Illinois, I would like to introduce the Lisle Youth Leadership Group of the Lisle American Organization of Elgin. If they would please stand up and be recognized."

Speaker Lang: "Welcome to Springfield. And the Chair recognizes Representative Tracy."

"Please state your point."

"Thank you for your comments, Representative. The next Bill on the Calendar is House Bill 3597, Mr. Burns. Out of the record. House Bill 3022, Representative Chapa LaVia. Representative Chapa LaVia. Out of the record. Representative Chapa LaVia is in the chamber. Do 09700032.doc 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 you wish to move your Bill, Representative? Please read the Bill."

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Yes. 1322 (sic-3022) makes several changes to the School Code. It was recommended by ISBE. There is quite a list of things on here. I’m willing to take some questions on it; it's pretty complicated."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. And on that question… there being no debate, those in favor of the Bill should vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Dan Burke, Greg Harris, Mr. Smith. Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared pass. House Bill 1876, Mr. Fortner to handle for Mr. Cross. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Fortner."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor of the Bill should vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1256, Mr. Colvin. Mr. Colvin, do you wish to move this Bill, Sir? Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Colvin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have for the House to consider House Bill 1256. And it simply amends the Department of Transportation. Law of the Civil Administrative Code, which creates the Diversity in Engineering Program. This is an IDOT initiative that is not exactly a new program. It's been going on for several years and it's funding stream has been through several different sources. This Bill simply deals with… first of all, let me give you a kind of… just a premise a little bit. This Bill is directly aimed at trying to deal with one of the real problems that IDOT in terms of attracting and retaining minority candidates to study both… to both study civil engineering and to make a commitment to work as civil engineers for the Illinois Department of 09700032.doc 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 Transportation. Currently, in this country, it has been very difficult for IDOT and other departments of transportation around this country to attract these candidates due to more lucrative offers elsewhere. In turn, it has created kind of a disparity in terms of employment opportunities at the Department of Transportation, and Illinois is no different. The funding source for these dollars… the funding source for these dollars comes from the Federal Government. Now it's funded out of the Illinois Road Fund. It's funded out of the Illinois Road Fund, but the money comes from the Federal Government and acts pretty much as a pass-through. So as these scholarships are funded, those dollars are replaced by the Federal Government. So, there is no actual loss to road construction dollars. These are federal dollars, and if we simply don't use them, the dollars simply won't be appropriated for this purpose. So, with regard to its funding, it has no fiscal effect on actual road construction funds. We had to… we specifically and very clearly explained this in committee which the Bill moved out of. I'll be happy to answer any questions with regard to the program at this time, Mr. Speaker."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill, and on that question, the Chair recognizes Representative Pritchard."

"Gentleman yields." 09700032.doc 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Not here in front of me, but let me give you a real good general idea of what we're talking about. Here in the State of Illinois, we graduate a very small number of civil engineers who graduate from Illinois schools. Nationwide, the problem is pretty consistent. In Illinois alone, we graduate less than a hundred students and this is all minority students including women, all women of any race, of less than one hundred students. Most of these students get opportunities to work in other fields in civil engineering. In fact, I have a niece right now who is interning in Shanghai, China, as a civil engineer. So to help provide an incentive to attract students to come to work for the Illinois Department of Transportation, this program was crafted that these students would receive a grant of $7500 for the five-year program that these programs typically are at state colleges and universities to help defray the cost of those engineering degrees with the understanding that they would make some commitment to study, to work as an employee of the Illinois Department of Transportation."

"It would be far less. I have served on the Appropriations Committee for Public Safety for eight years, and where IDOT comes and they lay out many of their programs and initiatives. One of the stark concerns, one of the things that really stand out with respect to diversity in their workforce is among the engineers is something we've been…"

"They have."

"They have."

"Seventy-five hundred dollars per year. Most of the engineering programs that our state colleges and universities, or just at our universities, are typically five-year programs. It would provide a stipend of $7500 to be applied…"

"…to defray the cost of those degrees."

"I'm not certain that it's the same number of years, but there is a requirement that they work for several years at Illinois Department of Transportation."

"As I look through my notes here, you're right. That's… that's the requirement."

"That's correct. To… up to the number of scholarships that are actually offered, the Federal Government would reimburse the Road Fund for those dollars expended for these scholarships."

"Mr. Eddy."

"Gentleman yields."

"Well, that's an excellent question, and I think it's a question that really defines what this Bill does. To answer your questions specifically, no, it cannot. This is a program that was approved by the Federal Government for federal Road Fund dollars. Once it was approved, that any dollars they use to award these scholarships would be reimbursed by the Federal Government into the Road Fund. So, what the effect would be, there would be no construction dollars actually lost as a result of the award of these scholarship opportunities."

"This is additional money."

"Well, it depends… well, there is a… at some point, they can award up to 20 per year. And assuming that they had individuals in all four classes, up to those five years, it would be a maximum of 100. So, the program in one calendar year, could never cost more than $750 thousand. They have not ever reached that… that ceiling, but even if they did, it would be 100 percent reimbursable by the Federal Government." 09700032.doc 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"That is absolutely correct."

"There is no…"

"…general revenue fund, not now, not ever in the way the Bill is written, Sir."

"Mr. Reis."

"Gentleman yields."

"They have to…"

"…they have to reapply."

"I think with the…"

"I think what you're suggesting is… would be fair. I would ask for consideration on the Bill today…"

"…with the understanding that if we put those things in place, I think it would actually help IDOT reach their goal in terms of diversifying that workforce. So, I think your suggestions I think are well received by me, and I'd be willing to work with the Senate Sponsor and IDOT to make sure that we cross those t's and dot those i's as well."

"I couldn't hear the last part. Could you just restate it?"

"Yes, Sir."

"Mr. Bost."

"Mr. Colvin to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would simply encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill shall vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 114 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Mr. Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I rise on a point of personal privilege."

"State your point, Sir."

"Over the past weeks and months, many people have said that Illinois is not a good place to do business, but I 09700032.doc 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 want to welcome a friend of mine from New York. He's a global strategist and he's here to join us in Springfield today. If everyone could give Michael Williams a round of applause. Mike, if you could stand. He believes that Illinois is good place to do business and we're meeting. Thank you very much, Mike."

"Thank you, Mr. Ford. The next Bill on the Calendar is House Bill 1425, Representative Currie. Please read the Bill."

"Majority Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. This is an initiative of the Department of Health Care and Family Services. As you know, the Federal Government makes grants to the states to do information technology with a match of 90 percent to 10 percent state money. This measure really just… just is there to make sure that the department will have the authority to spend that money to give out the grants when the federal money comes in. I'd be happy to answer your questions and I'd be grateful for your support."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor shall vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Mussman. Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is 09700032.doc 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 hereby declared passed. House Bill 3499, Representative David Harris. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As you know, when an individual applies for a Firearm Owner's Identification Card in Illinois, there is a waiting period. This Bill would eliminate the waiting period for an individual that has an order of protection pending. Most usually, the order of protection applies to a female. So, the Order of Protection would have to be in place. If that were the case, then the waiting period for the Firearm Owner's Identification Card would be waived."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage the Bill, The Chair recognizes Representative Bost."

"State your inquiry, Sir."

"I'm not sure we have any rules on that, but I don't know if we have a red jacket for the Gentleman today."

"Gentleman yields." 09700032.doc 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 Harris, D.: "Well, Mr. Speaker, he is right. I am a retread, so my first Bill jacket would be a very faded red. So, that is the case…"

"Mr. Bost for a question."

"Representative Will Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Gentleman yields." Davis, W.: "So, this Bill eliminates the waiting period for anyone who wishes to purchase a firearm if they have a valid order of protection against someone else, correct?" Harris, D.: "If they… that is correct. And I want to clarify what I said earlier. It's not just the Firearm Owner's Identification Card, you're right. It is the purchase of a firearm and it is for someone who has an order of protection, a valid order of protection in place." Davis, W.: "What's… what's the purpose of having a wait period? Why do you have a wait period?" Harris, D.: "Normally, it is a background check is conducted and just to make sure that…" Davis, W.: "You want to make sure the person applying to receive a firearm does not have any issues in their background, correct?" Harris, D.: "That is correct." 09700032.doc 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 Davis, W.: "So, if you eliminate the wait period regardless of an order of protection because that's about, you know, protecting someone, so even if they have an issue in their background, that person could be issued an order of protection, correct?" Harris, D.: "It is possible. Normally, the order of protection… before you get an order of protection, you usually have some sort of a review is given before that is issued." Davis, W.: "Well… well, but that's specific to the issue between the two people where the judge determines that an order of protection is indeed warranted, correct?" Harris, D.: "Correct." Davis, W.: "So, if you eliminate that time, and the individual applying has an issue in their background, how do you reverse that? How do you… how do you… if that's the purpose of the wait period is to make that determination and you eliminate that wait period…" Harris, D.: "It is possible that something like that could happen that an individual who was granted an order of protection could have a background like that. Oftentimes, that order of protection usually though covers that, that that person would not be granted an order of protection in a situation like that." Davis, W.: "So you're saying, and someone who has an order of protection that someone had a background, who knows how long ago, whatever that background was, that that could impact someone's ability to receive an order of protection? 09700032.doc 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 So, if you had a male or female, and I don't know what type of background necessarily…" Harris, D.: "I'm sorry. I was just corrected by staff. The background check is done by… when you get your FOID Card. That's when your background check is… is conducted. So, the person would have to have a FOID Card in order to get the firearm to begin with. So, the background check isn't conducted during the waiting period for the purchase of a firearm, it's conducted at the time of the FOID Card issuance." Davis, W.: "What… so, then please, and I'm not a gun owner, so then what's the purpose of the wait period to begin with?" Harris, D.: "That's a good question. Maybe we ought to do away with it, entirely." Davis, W.: "Well, I think that's… in some respects you're trying to do. You know, obviously, just have some concerns which is why I asked the question about what exactly the wait period is for, you know, and I can understand why you would want to eliminate the wait period in that particular circumstance, but I guess, not that I could know or ever know or understand the mind set of an individual who has received an order of protection in terms of what that person has gone through, what have you. In some respects though, I think that wait period might still be not a bad thing to have, maybe shorten the wait period a little bit, but I mean, because again, just like my concerns about conceal and carry where you're introducing the possibility of having a gun or some type of weapon in certain circumstances. I think that's one of those circumstances 09700032.doc 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 that we have to be concerned about because that individual could just simply react and unfortunately, may harm someone, maybe not the person that they have the order of protection against, but I just have some concerns, that's all. That's all." Harris, D.: "And… and I follow your… I follow your logic. Oftentimes, a person who has been granted an order of protection really can be in danger very quickly…" Davis, W.: "Absolutely." Harris, G: "…after that order of protection is granted." Davis, W.: "Absolutely. Thank you very much, Representative."

"Mr. Osterman."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Gentleman yields."

"So, as… your answers to the previous speaker, and I just want to be clear. This deals with the waiting period but not the background check?" Harris, D.: "No, I'm… I initiatively misspoke. The background check takes place at the time of the issuance of the Firearms Owner's Identification Card. An individual has to have a valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card to purchase a firearm. When you purchase a firearm, there is a waiting period. That waiting period would be waived if the individual has a valid order of protection in place."

"So, if I go to a gun store that has federally licensed dealer, there's a requirement or if I go to a gun show, there's a requirement of an instant criminal background check. And… so this would not deal with that?" 09700032.doc 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 Harris, D.: "No… no, this is if you purchase a firearm from a federally licensed firearm dealer."

"Okay. So, what are the waiting periods right now for a firearm? What are the waiting periods you're trying to get rid of under the Bill?" Harris, D.: "It's 72 hours."

"Seventy-two hours for…" Harris, D.: "The purchase of a firearm. The issuance of a Firearm Owner's Identification Card that comes whenever the State Police sends your Firearm Owner's Identification Card."

"But isn't it 24 hours for a long gun or shotgun?" Harris, D.: "Well, I was referring to a handgun, but that's correct."

"But this would waive it for both?" Harris, D.: "Right, that's correct."

"Okay. But I guess here's the crux of my question though. The background checks would still be in place, and those background checks, most instances take a matter of minutes." Harris, D.: "Generally, they're fairly fast, yes."

"Okay. There are certain situations though that the State Police needs more time. So, there could be a David Harris that's got a warrant out for his arrest. He goes to buy a firearm and those could take a little bit longer, so what would happen in those situations? So you go into a gun store, you want to buy a firearm, and they proceed to do a background check. That background check because the State Police has to get additional information, takes 09700032.doc 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 longer than the two minutes that it usually takes. What will happen under your legislation?" Harris, D.: "Well, if there is a valid order of protection in place, there is no waiting period whatsoever. If the valid order of protection is in place, the firearm can be purchased."

"So, even if the background check is not completed?" Harris, D.: "Again, I come back and say the background check would be completed at the time of issuance of the Firearm Owner's Identification Card which must be… which the individual must have before they purchase the firearm."

"People get the FOID Card, they go through the background check. FOID Card's valid for, I believe, five years, could be longer, we may have…" Harris, D.: "Right."

"…lengthened that. There are people that in that time period then commit a crime, have an order of protection against them or something else, where they're suppose to relinquish their FOID Card. Many instances are out there where the FOID Card is not recovered, and that individual can still then go and buy a firearm. If they go to a gun store that's a federally licensed dealer, they conduct an instant criminal background check. That background check checks State Police databases and the federal databases, and would red flag someone who should not be buying a gun even if they have the FOID Card. And I've said before, that about 800 people a year have that situation. And what I'm… I guess I’m trying to get at, and this is a valid point and don't think I’m trying to trip 09700032.doc 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 you up, I understand the intention of what you're trying to go at, but there's a gray area in your Bill." Harris, D.: "If… and if… if the background check gets a hit, in other words it comes up hot, then that person could not purchase a firearm. It's the waiting period that would be waived, not the ability to purchase the firearm. If the background check comes up with a hit."

"Okay. I understand what you're trying to do, and in an effort to try to keep the conversation going, I would ask that you would if you want to proceed with this, I'm not going to stop you or slow you down. You're going to look for a Senate Sponsor. What I'd like to do is to have State Police and others talk about this gray area with you and the Senate Sponsor, so that we're not creating a situation where someone runs in with an order of protection, gets a firearm, and in fact, maybe that individual shouldn't have one as well. So, I don’t want to create another loophole and I don't think you want to do that as well. So, is that something you're amenable to?" Harris, D.: "No, and very much so. And the State Police, be happy to work with them if it needs adjustment, I'd certainly be willing to do that."

"Did they slip this in opposition or in support or neutral?" Harris, D.: "They did not. As a matter of fact, the Bill came out of committee with no descending votes, and the do pass Motion was made by a person on your side of the aisle."

"Which committee was that?" 09700032.doc 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 Harris, D.: "That was the Agriculture & Conservation Committee, a very friendly committee."

"There's a lot I can say about that, but I'll pass."

"Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Gentleman will yield."

"Representative, I'm reading the Bill here, and I see right now there are a few exemptions for the waiting list. For instance, the sale of a firearm to a law enforcement officer, and also a mail order sale of a firearm to a nonresident of Illinois under which the firearm is mailed to a point outside the boundaries, and also the sale of a firearm to a nonresident of Illinois while in a firearm showing or a display. Correct? And there's also the last one would be to a dealer. That would be the four exemptions that we have right now to bypass the waiting period. Would you agree?" Harris, D.: "That is correct. That is correct. This is the fifth exemption."

"This would be the fifth. Okay. That's… I wanted to make sure. Now, I heard your answers to Mr. Osterman's questions, previously, on the timing of the background check. And I guess… at the timing of… when they do the FOID Card, you're telling me that's when they do the background check to allow someone to get the FOID Card. Correct?" Harris, D.: "Yes, Sir."

"Okay. Now, is there a second background check prior to the time that someone would be purchasing a firearm?" 09700032.doc 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 Harris, D.: "Yes."

"So this Bill would exempt someone under an order of protection from the second background check?" Harris, D.: "No."

"When would the second background check be done if there's no waiting period?" Harris, D.: "The instant background check takes place…"

"Are… are we able to do that though? Do we have the ability to do an instant background check?" Harris, D.: "It's… we're doing it now. That's the process and procedure that is in place now."

"For those four other exemptions?" Harris, D.: "For everyone is my understanding, for everyone."

"But isn't there a backlog? 'Cause I know it takes forever to get FOID Cards from the State Police because they just… they don't seem to want to give them, but there seems to be a backlog of the FOID Cards. Are… so, are you telling me that that's no back… there's no backlog on the background checks?" Harris, D.: "Well, when they… there's no backlog when they do the instant checking. It's either done or it isn't done. It's either completed or it isn't completed."

"My question is, if we add this exemption, would there still be the ability to do… will you still require that second background check to make sure that that person, since they got the FOID Card, is not a narcotic addict?" Harris, D.: "Yes, Sir."

"That that person is not a felon." Harris, D.: "Yes, Sir." 09700032.doc 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Okay." Harris, D.: "Yes, Sir. That… that… that…"

"So, we'd still have that procedural safeguard." Harris, D.: "That second check is performed. That is correct."

"Thank you. I wanted to make sure that was clear."

"Representative Greg Harris." Harris, G: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He will yield." Harris, G: "So, Representative Harris, also reading the legislation here, there are different categories of persons who are not allowed. I'm just trying to understand how this would work in real life. There are a number of categories of persons if you scroll to the top of the existing statute, persons who are not allowed to have a firearm in the State of Illinois including narcotic addicts, people who have been recently in mental institutions, et cetera. Do you see where I’m looking at the top of the statute there?" Harris, D.: "Whatever the statute is, it… that remains unchanged." Harris, G: "So, if a person who was in one of those classifications also had an order of protection, would they under this be able to automatically walk in and get a firearm?" Harris, D.: "No." Harris, G: "And how would the person selling the firearm know if they had recently been in a mental institution or were a narcotic addict?" 09700032.doc 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 Harris, D.: "Because we have performed… at the time of the sale, they perform an instant background check." Harris, G: "So that would be covered by the instant background check?" Harris, D.: "Yes, Sir." Harris, G: "Then, I'm not… I’m not a lawyer, so I don't know what form orders of protection usually take. Will the gun dealer… will it be upon the gun dealer, the retailers discretion to look at a legal document and determine that this is a valid order of protection or how would this work?" Harris, D.: "Well, I don't know that the gun dealer has to… has to evaluate it. The individual who is applying for the purchase would have in his or her possession an order of protection which should be valid." Harris, G: "And again, this is a question we come to in a lot of these things where we're asking lay people, such as myself or a person working in a retail store, to make a legal judgment based on the presentation of the document that someone may have in their possession who will come in and say, you know, my name is Greg Harris and I have an order of protection. How would they know this is legal and valid?" Harris, D.: "It's… I suppose anyone could submit a… or try to submit any sort of false identification, but a court order of protection is a court document with a… with an official seal and stamp, and would be I think fairly difficult to duplicate." 09700032.doc 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 Harris, G: "I… I understand your answer, I'm just very concerned as we talk about, you know, in the questions of medical marijuana, you know, the possible forgery of a doctor's prescription pad. You know, someone coming in and representing I have a court order. You know, the folks who tend to be the criminals always sort of find a way, and I… I worry about that, that we're asking people who work in a gun store… I certainly understand where you're going with this legislation and respect the intent, but I'm concerned with, are we asking workers in a retail establishment to make legal judgments that they may or may not be qualified to make." Harris, D.: "My sense is that they are fairly well qualified. They have seen lots of documents, and if you've ever been in a firearms store, they are extremely, extremely cautious about selling firearms to anyone who would not be entitled to one. They thoroughly check identification when it is presented, and I would imagine that that order of protection would get a very thorough review." Harris, G: "Did you give any thought to any other third party entities of validating or a database that they could check? Are… let me just ask the question. Are there databases that exist, they're accessible to the public, court orders of protection, that they could verify whether a document was, in fact, legitimate?" Harris, D.: "I don't know. I don't know if there is. I would imagine that the… well, I don’t know for a fact if the instant background check taps into those databases. I'm not sure." 09700032.doc 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 Harris, G: "I mean, it would give me a lot of comfort if there was an independent verification that was outside of just a printed document, in this day and age of, you know, hi-tech printers and computers, that someone could check and say, is this a valid order of protection? Then this would seem to make a good deal of sense." Harris, D.: "I follow what you're saying. Again, they look at those things very closely. They have to make a determination if it's valid. I'm sure if they chose, they could make a quick phone call to find that out because it is an official document from a court of the State of Illinois and they could track it down pretty quickly." Harris, G: "All right. Thank you for answers, Representative."

"Representative Burns."

"Thank you, Speaker. Does the Sponsor yield?"

"Mr. Harris yields."

"Representative, I just have a question about the order of protection. My understanding is that a person can apply for an order of protection on an emergency basis and that the court will grant the order of protection without a hearing at the request of a victim that the order will be granted and that order is on the books for 30 days. Is that your understanding as well?" Harris, D.: "Forgive me, I was distracted. Repeat the early part of your question again."

"Sure, certainly. My understanding is that an order of protection comes in two stages. There's an emergency order of protection and I don't know if that's in the statute or I'm just using the term colloquially, but my understanding 09700032.doc 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 is that a person can apply for an order of protection and the court will grant that emergency order that stands for 30 days. Before the end of that 30-day period, there is a hearing where the court determines whether or not there needs to be a longer order of protection granted to the victim, and there's a hearing for that process. So, my question is, is that your understanding of the order of protection law as well?" Harris, D.: "It is my understanding that the emergency order is granted only if the defendant cannot be brought into court at the time."

"Okay. Do you have a sense of how many orders of protection are granted on an emergency basis?" Harris, D.: "I do not."

"Can you tell us… does your Bill anticipate that someone with an emergency order of protection would be able to secure a firearm without the waiting period?" Harris, D.: "Well, the Bill right now would not differentiate between an emergency order of protection and a regular order of protection. And if that… if that… you bring up a valid point though. If the emergency order of protection is significantly different from a standing order of protection, then it would warrant… I would think the Bill would warrant an Amendment to reflect that."

"Okay. That is my understanding and you know, I think it would make sense maybe to take the Bill out of the record to amend the Bill so that you make an distinction between the emergency order of protection and the order of protection that's granted after a evidentiary hearing where 09700032.doc 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 the court makes its determination on the order of protection based on the preponderance of the evidence." Harris, D.: "I think… and Mr. Speaker, I think the questioner makes a valid point. I'd like to do that. And I would like to take it out for purposes of amending it later."

"Sponsor takes the Bill out of the record. The Chair recognizes Representative Sullivan. Mr. Sullivan wishes he… says he does not wish to speak. Members, please pay attention. Most of the Bills on the Calendar are on Short Debate. The Chair is going to try to limit these Bills to Short Debate because we all have any number of Bills we'd like to pass in the next couple of weeks. If anyone wishes to remove a Bill from Short Debate, of course you can, but let's remember the rules of Short Debate. A two minute presentation by the principal Sponsor, two minute presentation by someone in response and a one minute closing. If anyone wants to remove a Bill from Short Debate as we go, we can do that. The next Bill on the Calendar is House Bill 1726, Representative Farnham. This Bill is on Standard Debate. Mr. Farnham. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Farnham."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 1726 amends the Illinois Pension Code by prohibiting individuals to become a Constitutional Officer, a Member of the General Assembly on or after the effective 09700032.doc 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 date from participating in the General Assembly Retirement System. These new participants shall participate in the State Employees Retirement System. With this change, new lawmakers and other officials would receive the same pension benefits as regular state employees. House Bill 1726 has an immediate effective date."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of the Bill. And on that question, the Chair recognizes Representative Winters."

"Sponsor yields."

"Only for new Members."

"That is correct."

"Well, you know, I have the same concerns as you do as far as our existing Members, but this is an attempt to make 09700032.doc 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 progress on this without creating a huge constitutional… you know, the costs associated with that, and this is clearly constitutional."

"Mr. Tryon."

"Sponsor yields."

"Elimination of GARS for new Members would save $340 million by 2045."

"Yeah. And I think the answer is, is between now and 2020, you would lose some money but you would make that back plus after that."

"From now until 2020, there would be some fiscal impact, but after that, it would be a positive impact."

"No."

"Mr. Eddy."

"Sponsor yields." 09700032.doc 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"On the… on the summary, there are five bullet points which point out the differences between the GARS and the SERS: the vesting, benefit formula, maximum annuities, cost of living adjustment, and maximum pensionable salary growth."

"Yes."

"It would be 75 percent, but it would take 44 years for a Member to reach that point, and the… it would take 35 years to get to 60 percent. And with the benefit formula it would… for the GARS, the formula is 3 percent for each year and with SERS it's 1.67 percent."

"Yeah, that hit to SERS would be very minimal." 09700032.doc 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"In the long run it will reduce the liability."

"After 2020, it becomes a positive to the funds. So, going forward, you would make up any difference that you had between now and 2020, and you would have, you know, a benefit from that."

"Because the GARS benefits are much more generous than the SERS benefits and I think that as public servants that we should be on the same level playing field with the rest of the state employees."

"Diminishing, did you say?"

"Your benefit formula, your COLA are different, years to vest are different. And the 75 percent, who is going to reach that level? It's probably only been one or two that have ever reached that level."

"Mr. Eddy, can you bring your remarks to a close, Sir."

"I know there's a Bill out there that would do that, but it isn't law yet and this would address that."

"We have two more speakers on this Bill: Mr. Poe and Mr. McCarthy. Mr. Poe."

"Sponsor yields." 09700032.doc 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"I'm talking about Legislators. And I don't have any facts to back that up, but 44 years of service."

"No, this does not affect judges."

"What I'm trying to do is address the Legislature and Legislators and getting them more in line with what the rest of the state employee are."

"I'm not assuming that."

"You know, that is an approach to get around the constitutional issue, and it's something that as Representative Tryon stated or the other Representative that we should look at in the future, but this is an attempt to make a change now to bring us more in line."

"Representative McCarthy."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, the… I didn't like opposing your Bill in committee and I don't like opposing it on the floor, but as I said in committee, I mean… and I think Representative Poe spoke about this, last year the changes we made to the General Assembly Retirement System and the Judges' Retirement System were by far the most dramatic as far as reducing benefits to the new Members after January 1 of this year. So, now on this Bill here, SERS has some Members that are under Social Security and they have some Members who are not under Social Security. Does your Bill stipulate whether the new Members of GARS would fall into the SERS with Social Security or the SERS without Social Security?"

"It does not spell that out specifically."

"Do you have any intention that maybe you'd share with the Senate Sponsor as to which way you would ask the system to be inclined to go? 'Cause the payment that we would have to put in for these individual Members would be greatly increased if they… we put them in the Social Security system. Not only would there be a matching thing 09700032.doc 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 from SERS, but there would also be the 7.65 percent for Social Security. So whether the state would save any money is highly doubtful."

"Well, we don't collect Social Security."

"We don't what? Yeah, but this is a new game. This is not 'we': this doesn't affect 'we'."

"Right."

"We're talking about the new people…"

"New Legislators don't pay…"

"…so, your intent… your intent is that they would be Members of SERS that are also part of Social Security or is your intent the opposite?"

"Could you repeat the question, please?"

"I'm saying, SERS has some employees that when they're hired they're told that they're going to be in SERS but also in Social Security. So, we have to make… they have to make the Member contribution to Social Security and the state has to make their matching one. SERS has other Members who are not in Social Security, they make a higher pension payment in that case. So, you're saying that the Members… the new Members of the General Assembly will be in the SERS System, but you don't seem to have an inclination one way or the other whether they'll be in the SERS with Social Security or SERS without Social Security, and there is a big cost difference to the state and it's an immediate cost difference that we can't fool around with by changing actuarial formulas and things." 09700032.doc 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"I guess… why would the SERS put them into the Social Security category where we don't pay Social Security as Legislators?"

"We don't, but we're not in SERS. GARS made the decision. GARS is a pension plan that does not participate in Social Security and we have certain rules we have to abide by because of that. There are areas of SERS that abide by those rules and the people do not get Social Security benefits and then there's areas of SERS where people do. So, well, that change can maybe be made in the Senate or something, but that's a very, very, important decision that would affect the contribution that the state has to make and they have no choice in this, they have to make that right away if they go into Social Security. We can't play games with that and say we're going to make less of a contribution that is mandated by Federal Law. So, I have no more questions for the Sponsor, but I just would urge the Body to be very suspect. We did a good job last year going… changing the system so the Judges' Retirement System and the General Assembly Retirement System. I know there's a big thing out there in the public, let's go after them, let's reduce it again. We've had Bills in committee where we're going to completely abolish the General Assembly Retirement System. This Bill did get out 5 to 4, the minimum number of votes needed to go out, but please don't be afraid of voting against the Bill. I think that there's a lot of decisions that haven't been made yet. The questions that Representative Tryon asked… As a Member of the General Assembly Retirement System Board, I know that 09700032.doc 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 the board was not approached. I know that the executive director was not approached to answer those questions as to the overall cost. Also, the overall fundamental, you know, existence of the program as we go forward with no one making contributions into the system after a certain point. So, I think that this is, you know, while I think the intentions were good, I think this is too much of step forward. We're working as a comprehensive group. There's Members assigned from every caucus of the General Assembly that have been meeting, myself and Mr. Schmitz has been meeting with Members in the Senate and other groups. We're looking at comprehensive reform. I don't think we need to go forward with something like this. It might feel good and might look good on a brochure, but in the long-term it's not the right answer to solve any of our problems with the pension liability. And if you're talking about the 80 billion pension liability that the state's five systems currently has, this would be like a drop of water in the ocean as far as making any dent in that liability whatsoever. We need to concentrate on what the real target should be: comprehensive reform to all the systems so we can continue their viability into the far future. That's what we need to be working on. I would urge everyone in the chamber to vote 'no' or 'present' on this initiative."

"Last speaker will be Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Gentleman yields."

"Representative Farnham, when this Bill was up in committee, we talked about the question of whether when you 09700032.doc 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 end a system this way under the Government Accounting Standards Board requirements, will we have to pay more into the system in early years because it… it's my understanding from the National Conference of State Legislators that when… under the GASB standard, when a pension system is ended, that the unfunded liability is frontloaded in the payments, and so other states have looked at this and said, well, we don't want to go to a 401(k) or we don't want to end the system because it's going to require us to pay 50, 60, 70 percent more in the early years. Did you get that information?"

"We will have to make up more contribution in the early year… between now and 2020."

"So do we know… just for example, in fiscal year 2012 how much more we're going to have to pay in?"

"It'll be about $40 million more between now and 2020."

"And is that… is that coming from the retirement system and their calculations under the GASB standards?"

"Tim Blair did a study, actuarial study on this, and that's about the number that they came up with through 2020."

"Okay. I understand that the system has done that, I just am trying to clarify the question I asked in committee and which in committee, you told me you would get that information trying to clarify, are those… is that the number under the GASB standards?"

"I have not heard that from Tim Blair yet on that." 09700032.doc 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"So, Representative, I think you made a commitment in committee that we would get that information so that we would know. I am not opposed to the Bill, but I think that we, as a Body, are entitled to know what our financial obligation and what our fiscal obligation is going to be in fiscal years 2012 and 2013 when we're already having to make significant cuts. Are we going to have to make more cuts because of these additional… because of this additional requirement? And I think that that's something that needs to go into the calculation as to how Members vote. So, I would ask you if we can take the Bill out of the record until we can get that information on what GASB requires us to do."

"And in respect, I will pull it."

"Great. I appreciate it. Thank you."

"The Gentleman takes the Bill out of the record. Mr. Dunkin, do you still wish to speak, Sir? Gentleman indicates he does not wish to speak. The next Bill on the Calendar is House Bill 3186, Representative Ford. This Bill is on the Order of Short Debate. There will be one speaker on the opposite side. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Mr. Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 3186 would require the state to set goals or at least a goal that 10 percent of the state contracts in Illinois are awarded to small businesses, and require the state to 09700032.doc 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 offer these small businesses contracts in the State of Illinois. It's only a goal; it's not a requirement. I don't think we could force the state to do anything in this Bill."

"Gentleman's moved for the passage of the Bill. And on that question, the Chair recognizes Representative Eddy for two minutes."

"Gentleman yields."

"There was a requirement that CMS would be responsible."

"A goal."

"Thank you very much."

"Mr. Ford to close."

"Very much I move for passage of House Bill 3186."

"Those in favor of the Bill shall vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Brauer, Morthland, Sosnowski. Please take the record. On this 09700032.doc 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 question, there are 104 voting 'yes', 12 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 195, Representative McAuliffe. This Bill is on the Order of Short Debate. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Mr. McAuliffe."

"The Gentleman moved for the passage of the Bill. And on this question, the Chair recognizes Representative Rose for two minutes."

"Gentleman yields."

"Mr. Rose, Mr. Rose, please bring your comments to a close, Sir."

"The Gentleman…"

"…the Gentleman removes the Bill from the record. Next Bill would be House Bill 144, Representative Franks. This Bill is on the Order of Short Debate. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Franks."

"Thank you. I apologize. What this Bill does, is to allow a municipality to dissolve a downstate police pension fund or downstate firefighters' pension fund if an independent auditor certifies that the fund has no liabilities, participants, and beneficiaries. This was brought to me by the Harvard, Illinois Fire Department asking us to do this 'cause there's no way right now for a fire department to be able to dissolve their pension fund. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"The Gentleman moves for passage of the Bill. The Bill is on Short Debate. The Chair recognizes Representative Eddy for two minutes."

"The Gentleman yields."

"Right now, there are a handful of inactive pension funds that don't have any active or any members whatsoever, any retirement members or anyone actually paying in. But unfortunately, they're still required to audit this even though there's absolutely no transactions going."

"Yes."

"That's assuming that there are funds. Oftentimes, there's very little, if any. I'm not sure of that answer right now."

"I'll work with the Senate Sponsor if necessary on that."

"But I appreciate that question. I just… I don't have a good answer for you."

"Mr. Franks to close."

"I appreciate the question and I will follow up with our Senate Sponsor on this if it needs to be done, but I 09700032.doc 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 think this is a way to clean up some of these inactive funds and to stop the cost to the municipalities for pension funds that aren't being used or needed. I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill should vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Sosnowski. Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3314, Mr. Bill Mitchell. Please read the Bill."

"This Bill is on the Order of Short Debate. Mr. Mitchell." Mitchell, B.: "Thank… thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 3314, it authorizes the Central Illinois Economic Development Authority to create one or more employment advisory boards to report to the authority on employment related issues impacting central Illinois. Counties in central Illinois have some of the highest unemployment rates in the state of Illinois. This is just one piece of the puzzle we'll address how we put our folks back to work."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting's open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? 09700032.doc 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 Representative Lilly. Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3115, Representative Gordon. Please read the Bill."

"This Bill is on the Order of Short Debate. Representative Gordon." Gordon, J.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This legislation amends the School Code to restructure the Textbook Loan Program. Current law provides that the state board shall provide the loan of secular textbooks free of charge to any public or nonpublic school student. Due to the fiscal conditions of the State of Illinois, the Illinois Textbook Loan Program was not funded in FY9, '10 or '11. This Bill would not force the state to fund this program, it merely reduces the amount of bureaucracy in the event that the state does fund this line item in the future. ISBE ask actually… just me to give you some background. ISBE does the actual purchasing as well as the vouchering of the funds to vendors after they have received confirmation from the school districts and the schools that they have received all the materials that they have purchased. What this legislation purposes to do is to remove ISBE's involvement with the purchasing of and payments for the textbooks and the related materials. Under this proposal, any future funds for the Illinois Textbook Loan Program would be distributed to the eligible 09700032.doc 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 entities on a per pupil basis for the purchase of textbooks and related materials, very similar to the process for the distribution of the ADA block grant. Districts and schools would then be able to order their materials directly. Restructuring this program will save the State of Illinois money. Currently, the state pays vendors directly. Because payments are usually delayed, the state incurs prompt payment fees from those vendors. By paying the districts directly, the state can avoid the prompt payment fees. The state has incurred over $1.5 million in the last fiscal year in prompt payment interest penalties. This legislation did pass the House Education Committee unanimously, and I am open to any questions, but I ask for your favorable vote today."

"The Lady moves for the passage of House Bill 3115. This Bill is on the Order of Short Debate. And the Chair recognizes Representative McCarthy for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Lady yields."

"Representative, our analysis says that the Catholic Conference requested an Amendment. They've always been included in this program and did you see to their wishes?" Gordon, J.: "Yes, I did. The Amendment that's on this legislation… the Amendment that was adopted by the committee was from the Catholic Conference. Essentially what they wanted was some clarification as to if the books were secular or nonsecular. So, they're comfortable with this." 09700032.doc 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Thank you. And our analysis also says the Illinois High School Association was an opponent, is that correct?" Gordon, J.: "I did see that. They have not contacted me at all. They were not in committee…"

"They were not in committee?" Gordon, J.: "…as an opponent to this legislation. I did see that as well, though."

"Okay. Thank you for your answers." Gordon, J.: "Thank you."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting's open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Hays and Sosnowski. Representative Hays. Please take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'yes', 6 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3256, Mr. Moffitt. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Moffitt."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor of the Bill shall vote 'yes; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1831, Representative Hernandez. Representative Hernandez. Out of the record. House Bill 3041, Representative Nybo. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Nybo."

"I think you just purchased that, Sir."

"Well, we'll certainly wait for that. And by the way, since this is your first Bill, Sir, the Chair will waive Short Debate." 09700032.doc 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"You really should buy those in the right size, Sir. Please proceed."

"The Chair has no idea what you said, Sir. But the Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill, and the Chair recognizes Representative Eddy."

"Well, I'm certain he will."

"I don't think he meant that good luck, Sir. Representative Bost."

"Gentleman yields."

"Representative Will Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Representative, what does this Bill do?"

"We'll handle that up here, Sir. Yes, he will yield." Davis, W.: "Oh, okay. What does the Bill do?"

"Representative Mendoza. Think red." 09700032.doc 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Does the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"Thank you. Well, I would just like to say for the record that, Representative Nybo, I think you look very pretty in pink. It's really not so much red, it's pink. And I was…"

"I was wondering though, I do have a question. Do you like to sing?"

"Do you have a favorite song?"

"Well, I think you probably do have a favorite song and you're holding out from this esteemed Body."

"And I would just say that given your… you look like a central casting pick from Glee."

"And I would like for you to share with this august Body your favorite song, if you would. Since you look like, I mean, I swear I've just been waiting for Gwyneth Paltrow to come through here and team up with you. But maybe you could do a solo for us. What do you think?"

"That doesn't sound very promising. Now, you keep talking about these three very special words, you know. As girls, we typically think of a very special phrase when we hear three special words. What are those three special words, Representative Nybo?"

"Are they 'I love you'?"

"That really doesn't sound so special."

"All right."

"Well, yeah. All right, forget it. Okay. You lose. Vote 'no'. Thank you."

"Representative Rose."

"Sure."

"Mr. Nybo to close."

"It's the best you can do? Those in favor will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Hatcher, Nekritz, Saviano. Mr. Saviano. Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Congratulations, Representative. I thought they were pretty easy on you. House Bill 3189, Representative Jones. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Jones."

"Thank you… thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 3189… two in a row… House Bill 3189 changes a couple of words in the… currently, no one can plow or remove snow or ice or deposit it in a public highway or shoulder. This takes that exemption and extends it to the residential sidewalk. And I would like to ask for an 'aye' vote on this Bill."

"So, Mr. Jones, do I understand this is your first Bill?"

"Yes, Sir."

"I see you're wearing a red tie. Very good, Sir."

"Yes." 09700032.doc 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"The Chair… the Gentleman moves for the passage of his Bill. The Chair recognizes Representative Mayfield."

"Excuse me, Representative, does this mean that if snow is piled in front of my driveway, that I cannot then shovel that snow into the street to remove it from my driveway so I can get my car out?"

"Yes, Representative."

"Where would I put the snow that is blocking my driveway because this is happening to everyone in this room?"

"Thank you, Representative. You can take that snow and have Members, I can come to your house and help and we'll pile it on the side for you."

"No, I'm serious. Where can I place this snow? It's piled in front of my driveway. We all know the plow trucks go through and they pile these big banks of snow right at the end of your driveway, and you're saying that I cannot push it back out into the street along the curb. Where does that snow go? Because there are no repositories for snow."

"According to this Bill, Representative, you would have to take that snow and throw it on the side or take that snow and throw it like closer to the sidewalk."

"You just said that I couldn't put it there."

"Well, no, this Bill says that you can't take the snow and put in the public street. So, I can pick…" 09700032.doc 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"So, I’m to pick the snow up with my shovel because most people have a snow blower, so now I need a shovel and I'm suppose to take my shovel, lift this snow, carry it 10 feet past the sidewalk and dump it where, in the lawn?"

"You can dump it in the lawn, that's not a petty offense. Because this Bill says if you dump it in the public street it is a petty offense."

"Is there liability should I hurt myself moving this snow 20… you know, snow is heavy, and you're wanting me to pick up all this snow that's been piled in front of my driveway, carry it 10-20 feet to an undesignated location with the risk of harming myself. Is that correct, Representative?"

"Yes, Representative. And this Bill doesn't come with Excedrin and you can't get, if you hurt your back you can't get aspirin or anything to cure your pain. So, I'm sorry."

"Is lia… what about workers' comp? Is there a form of workers' comp where something that I can apply for as a result of hurting myself because of your Bill?"

"No, Representative, it's not… you can't apply for workers' comp."

"So, there's just no remedy for me at all. I'm to hurt myself so that there is no snow in the middle of the street. Is that correct?"

"Well, no, Representative. And seeing that we're trying to stimulate the economy you can hire some kids in the neighborhood and they can help you throw it on the side as well." 09700032.doc 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Representative, I think this is a bad Bill. I think you should reconsider it and pull it from the record until there is a liability placed in place."

"Thank you, Representative. I will consider that."

"Representative Eddy."

"I think so."

"Representative…"

"…I was ready yesterday, I'm on my third five-hour energy drink. I also, for everyone, if you want Representative, I can… bought a Bull's hat."

"Because I believe it's your driveway, Representative, so you would have to ask the gentleman to… I don't know."

"I'm sorry, Representative, I know the people with long driveways don't like this Bill, but people with short driveways love this Bill. Is that correct? It's the opposite way. I'm sorry, Representative."

"Technically you're correct, but this Bill…"

"It is a loophole and we'll look at…"

"…trying to close that loophole, but this Bill just…"

"Representative, I would love to pass this Bill and take your consideration…"

"Yes."

"Yes."

"I voted 'yes' on that Bill."

"Only if you had a FOID Card with the snow plow and the Caterpillar driveway. Yeah, only…"

"Yes."

"Yes, that's true."

"No, Sir, it doesn't" 09700032.doc 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Thank you, Representative."

"Mr. Mathias."

"Certainly."

"No, Representative. I wouldn't… I'd be happy to look at it down the road and try to come up with other ways, but no, I wouldn't want to amend it."

"I… you know, Representative, there's a lot of things in life that's not fair and I… I mean, I would love to have support on this Bill."

"There's a petty offense which could include a $50 fine or community service."

"Technically, it would be okay."

"Only if you have a FOIA (Sic-FOID) Card and they have a scanner to check to see if you're doing it."

"Yeah, cause it would mean lesser snow that you've taken from the sidewalk and throwing into the street."

"No, please don't."

"I got permission from…"

"No."

"It's not the Speaker." 09700032.doc 88  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Mr. Colvin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield for a question?"

"The Gentleman yields."

"Mr. Jones, just so I'm crystal clear about what you're trying to accomplish in your Bill, I'd like to preface my question by saying I think this is the first time that I've ever asked someone who was presenting their Bill for the first time a question, but I will have to tell you that my district being located entirely within the great City of Chicago, the issue of snow and snow removal is a very sensitive and a very critical issue. So, Mr. Jones, let me ask you, what does your Bill do with regard to dibs?"

"This Bill only applies to public highways, Representative."

"Okay. No, what I'm asking you, do you understand what the dibs provision is in a Bill? As my colleague…"

"Yes."

"…Representative Cam… just pointed out, and you're a suburban guy, so you may not understand what dibs is in the City of Chicago. In the City of Chicago, dibs during a snow storm is very important. Dibs on parking is a very, very critical issue. Now I see this Bill also applies to the City of Chicago. Having said that, when an individual takes the time and effort to dig out their parking space 09700032.doc 89  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 and I put my two kitchen chairs out there with a two-by- four, I want to know is there's any provision in your Bill that would prohibit me from having dibs on my parking space?"

"Well, it doesn't apply unless they're trying to cover up a public parking space, and I do know what dibs are. Dibs…"

"Well, you know, in front of my house, that's a… that's a… that's a street, it's… anyone can use it. That parking space, I don't have a deed or a lease to it, but I park there. So, I'm actually taking a piece of city property and I'm putting my kitchen chairs out there or one of those safety cones or a two-by-four or piece of lawn furniture to protect that spot. I want it… I'm simply asking you, does your Bill ensure that my two kitchen chairs would be safe or would I have to go to Aaron's Furniture to replace them every time there's a snow storm?"

"Yes, because it's only a public highway. So, in reference to like 87th and Stony Island, nobody that lives close to 87th and Stony Island can take it and dump it on Stony Island which is a public highway."

"Well, there are people who own homes on Stony Island, I admit there's not a lot, but there are people who have residential properties. And so, are you saying that if they put their kitchen chairs out on Stony Island to protect their parking space that this is going to be an issue?"

"No, Sir." 09700032.doc 90  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Okay. Then if that's the case, then I'll take your word for it and I’m going to support your Bill. Thank you, Representative."

"Thank you, Sir."

"Mr. Franks."

"To the Bill. I know we usually make fun on these, but I’m not going to address the Sponsor. I want to address the Bill because I think this is a matter of public policy that we should not change, and I'm being very serious. I'm going to encourage a 'no' vote here because I think this would really encroach on citizens' rights and property rights. Because what the Sponsor is trying to do is taking away the exemption for one to push snow out of their own residential driveway. It would still allow a sidewalk, but I read the Bill and it only says drive… initially said driveway or sidewalk and think of the ramifications of how we're going to have much more potentially big brother. Because what they're saying… what this Bill would now disallow… this Bill would not allow you to push the snow out of your driveway. You might think it's a joke because it's a first Bill, folks, it isn't. People are going to get fined for this. This is going to be a money generator for counties, townships, municipalities. This is not a thing of public policy that we ought change. What we ought to do is vote 'no' on this and we can have fun on another first Bill, but this is one we ought to take seriously because the ramifications for policy are to great to kid around. Please vote 'no'."

"Mr. Reis." 09700032.doc 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Gentleman yields."

"No, Sir. This Bill… this Bill…"

"No, Sir. This Bill has the support of the Township Officials of Illinois, highway commissioners…"

"I got this Bill from the township official of Illinois and as being a former township employee, township official, I was asked to sponsor this Bill and support the Bill. The original Sponsor, Representative Verschoore, and we have Sponsor Brauer on this Bill as well, Representative Brauer."

"Mr. Speaker, I would rather take the Bill out of the record then not being…"

"Gentleman takes the Bill out of the record. House 1071, Representative Pihos. This is not her first Bill. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Pihos."

"The Lady's moved for the passage of the Bill. The Bill is on Short Debate. There being no debate, those in favor of the Bill should vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Bost, Burns, Harris, Leitch, Morrison. Mr. Burns. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 53 voting 'yes', 62 voting 'no', and the Bill fails. House Bill… Representative Pihos."

"The Bill shall be placed…"

"…on the Order of Postponed Consideration. House Bill 3050, Representative Lyons. Please read the Bill."

"This Bill is on the Order of Short Debate. Representative Lyons."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I bring before you this afternoon House Bill 3050 which represents the negotiations between the Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation and the Illinois Credit Union League. I'd like to thank Dave Sinclair and Steve Olson who worked together to craft this Bill so there's no known opposition. Does five major things. First of all, on when the Executive Order created the Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation, there was some language in there that referred to secretary and director that had to be clarified and this Bill first and foremost did that. Where applicable, the secretary's name or the secretary's title is listed and the director if it revolves in something within one of the independent divisions. Second of all, the… what's referred to as a foreign credit union, a credit union that's based out of a different state and they operate in Illinois, but this clarifies they have to be strict adherence to the Illinois rules and regulations over credit unions. Third thing that it applies to is a… administrative actions may be taken against certain Illinois chartered credit unions 09700032.doc 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 that fail to comply with the Act. And basically this clarifies almost like progressive discipline from a warning to a written warning, and if things are clarified, they don't have to go into any type of fines or penalties. If there are any fines or penalties, certainly they'd be structured so smaller mom and pop credit unions certainly won't be subject to the same type of a disciplinary action as a larger credit union with a larger asset class. Fourth, it absolutely makes sure that we are in conformity with federal credit union regulations where applicable here in Illinois. And last but not least, makes sure that credit union board of directors have at least seven members, and if a member does… doesn't no longer participate and you're short a director, it gives a credit union 90 days to replace that one director. So, I'd be happy to answer any questions. There's no known opposition. It's a good Bill. I'd appreciate your support."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of the Bill which is on Short Debate. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Bellock, Saviano. Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3334, Mr. Poe. Please read the Bill. 3334, Mr. Clerk." 09700032.doc 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Mr. Poe."

"The Gentleman moved for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting's open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1577, Mr. Mautino. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Mautino."

"Thank you, Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 1577 will set up a format or a structure for the insurance exchanges. We will have a committee which will have equal membership provided for by 09700032.doc 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 Leadership, and the Illinois Benefits Exchange Legislative Study Commission will issue a report no later than December 31st on what the new health insurance exchanges should look like. This gives us our opportunity as a Body to have our Members look at and create the structure of the new health care system for exchanges. And this is a requirement in the Federal Law, so this would be step one in creating those exchanges. And I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The Gentleman's moved for the passage of the Bill. The Bill is on Short Debate. So, the Chair recognizes Representative Osmond for two minutes."

"Those in favor of the Bill shall vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Ford, Hays, Howard, Mayfield, Osterman. Mr. Osterman. Please take the record. On this question, there are 108 voting 'yes', 8 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1526, Mr. Pritchard. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Pritchard." 09700032.doc 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Gentleman's moved for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting's open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Durkin, Saviano, Sullivan. Saviano. Please take the record. On this question, there are 79 voting 'yes', 37 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3236, Representative Karen May. Out of the record. House Bill 3152, Mr. Ramey. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Ramey."

"The Gentleman's moved for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor of the Bill shall… Let me backtrack. Representative Franks. This is on Short Debate, Sir, you have two minutes."

"Thank you. I’m just trying to understand the Bill. We're moving so quickly, I'm just not sure what this Bill does so perhaps Mr. Ramey can explain it."

"So, there'd still be oversight. It just wouldn’t hap… it would just be more often. Instead of doing it on an annual basis, it'd be done on a monthly basis?"

"Now is there some threshold that's being changed?"

"Yes."

"Our summary indicates that it does and I'm not sure if that's your intent. Our summary says that this Bill removes the $2500 threshold value for property requiring electoral approval." 09700032.doc 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"I'm sorry. It was… oh, was the annual meeting?"

"But it makes the provision applicable only to real property. So, you're saying if you want to sell real property, you still have to have the approval, obviously."

"But what about if it's personal to you. What happens if they want to sell an old truck?"

"Than… I appreciate it 'cause I wasn't sure if we were making it less transparent, but it seems to me that this Bill will actually make it more transparent."

"Thank you. I appreciate that."

"Those in favor of the Bill shall vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Kelly Burke. Please take the record. On this question, there are 115 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no'. 09700032.doc 101  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1233, Representative Mayfield. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Mayfield."

"This Bill, there's an Amendment on the Bill that was a collaborative effort between myself, the Illinois Realtors Association, the Property Owners Association as well, and basically it provides that landlords would change the locks between tenants unless there was a specific agreement within their… in the lease provision that would allow the tenant themselves to change the locks. There's no opposition to this Bill."

"The Lady's moved for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting's open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 111 voting 'yes', 5 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1514, Representative Reis. Mr. Reis. Out of the record. House Bill 3155. I'm incorrect, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 1689, Representative McAsey. Please read the Bill."

"Representative McAsey."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. This is an initiative of the AARP to increase penalties in cases of 09700032.doc 102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 financial exploitation of the elderly or the disabled. The AARP worked with local victims as well as state's attorneys including here in Sangamon County to make sure that there are penalties to hold the predators who really prey and steal from our most vulnerable citizens accountable. And I appreciate your 'aye' vote."

"The Lady's moved for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Representative Reitz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"State your point, Sir."

"We'd just like to remind everyone, tonight is the Illinois Legislative Sportsman's Caucus. We have e-mailed out to everyone the live auction items that we have on there. If any one would like a copy of what's going to be… there we go… if we… we don't have any road kill, but we do have auction items. There'll be a lot of hunts, lot of ball tickets and a picture that Representative Osmond brought of a Chicago Bear that I think people would like. But it starts as 6:00 at the State House Inn. The live auction will start at seven. If any one wants a copy, come on over and get this and check your e-mail. We'd appreciate everyone's support." 09700032.doc 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Thank you, Mr. Reitz. Next is House Bill 2089, Representative Rosenthal. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Rosenthal."

"Sir, is this your first Bill? I see there's a jacket on your chair behind you. Why don't you put it on. Go ahead, Sir, we'll wait. Goes nicely with your tie. The Gentleman's moved for the passage of his first Bill and no one wants to ask him a question. Surely somebody has a question for the Gentleman. Saved by Mr. Eddy. Mr. Eddy."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Bost."

"Gentleman yields." 09700032.doc 108  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Representative Stephens."

"Mr. Riley."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Gentleman yields."

"Representative, when you eject, is there some sort of certificate that you get or a ring or some sort of trinket which represents… except for your seat of course, that represents the fact that you ejected out of an airplane?"

"Right. Works doesn't it?"

"When my esteemed colleagues, who I guess doesn't understand that some people might know something about stereochemistry, what he was talking about dealt with how a particular molecule phases and dextro and levo where cis and trans represent that molecule and its mirror image, if you were looking at it. And you knew that, didn't you?"

"Okay. But… on a serious vein, you know, we've dealt with some of these things in the past and maybe to not keep, you know, doing these Bills over and over again, 09700032.doc 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 maybe there should be some language that deals with these particular substances and any analog of them. That way, if there's… because again, you know, one more molecule will mean a different drug but it still has the same activity. And so maybe that's something that, you know, we can add to the future Bills."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Rosenthal to close on his very first Bill."

"You making demands, Sir, on the Body?"

"Unbelievable. Those in favor of the Bill shall vote 'yes'; those opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Pritchard, Mr. Smith. Please take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'yes', 3 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3155, Representative Mell. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Mell." 09700032.doc 114  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill was brought to me by the Department of Public Health. And it changes various reporting dates, and there's quite a lot here. It'd just make it to easier to comply with federal guidelines. I will be… I'll take any questions."

"The Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting's open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mautino, Tracy. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Representative Morrison."

"The record will reflect your intentions, Sir. House Bill 3411, Representative Roth, in a red jacket. Please read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Roth on her first Bill."

"The Lady's moved for the passage of her Bill. The Bill is on Short Debate, but given the gravity of her first Bill, we'll remove it from Short Debate. The Chair recognizes Representative Franks."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Lady yields."

"Representative, do you know whether the Governor has appointed the 10 stakeholders?"

"Are all the seats filled?"

"That's one of the few then I presume."

"Do you know why they haven't met in a year and a half?"

"Are they required to meet a certain amount of times during the year?"

"And if they don't meet within those four times is there any penalty?"

"So, even if we pass this Bill, there's no guarantee they're going to meet, and this deal is… you want them to 09700032.doc 116  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 give us… their findings within six months of the Governor signing this into law, but let's assume they don't. What happens?"

"I appreciate that and I agree with what you're trying to do. I'm just concerned that oftentimes we have these mandates in the laws and they're just absolutely ignored. I know we have many boards and commission that have not been appointed or many where the appointments have lapsed. Frankly, I'd like to see many of these boards and commissions be abolished. And perhaps we ought to consider, if these boards haven't met for a year and a half, that they really can't… they're really aren't that important. So perhaps, I don't know if you would consider this, maybe we should abolish this board and perhaps we should have a number of… a committee set up of Legislators to delve into this issue, because I agree with you, it is very serious. I just don't believe that these boards and commissions are actually doing their job."

"Is there any payment for these people who are on these boards?"

"Well, would you consider, and I'm being serious, doing an Amendment that if the board doesn't meet at the next scheduled meeting within… supposed to be meeting quarterly, that it would be abolished and we should do this for all boards and commissions that have mandates to meet certain times a year, and if they don't follow those mandates we just simply X them out?"

"Okay. I appreciate that."

"And I appreciate the gravity of this first Bill, but I do think it's important and we hear about this every day in our districts. So, thank you for bringing this forward."

"Mr. McCarthy."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Lady yields."

"Representative, the… I think you're correct in that the board members have finally been appointed. Is that correct?"

"And do you know if the chairman has been appointed, 'cause I understand that's the reason that they are… have not had a meeting because, while the Governor has appointed 09700032.doc 118  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 the members, he has not appointed the chairman. Is that correct as well?"

"I'm sorry. Would you repeat that please? I did not hear you at all."

"Okay."

"Well, I… I certainly would join you in encouraging the Governor to make that appointment so then that chairman could… now I’m getting the report back that they don't have a meeting because they don't have a chairman to call the meeting even though they've got the 10 members. So hopefully, the Governor's Office will appoint that chairperson and they can go ahead with this program. In our analysis, it says that your report will come back six months after the formation of the committee or something. My question would be, that doesn't prohibit us from doing anything in the interim?"

"Okay. Cause we certainly hope that something could be done."

"And the last question is, you have a… I see the Representative Watson there is very conscientious and did he forget to inform you never take over a Bill that 09700032.doc 119  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 Representative Eddy had started with because there's nothing but bad days ahead if you assume an Eddy Bill. So, I’m sorry that you fell for you this, but it does look like you have a pretty good initiative here. And I certainly would wish you luck on the Bill."

Speaker Lang: "Representative Eddy, person whose Bill was stolen."

"She certainly will."

"Representative Roth to close on her very first Bill."

"Those in favor of the Bill shall vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Representative Durkin. Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1761, Representative Nekritz. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 1761 will ask the Illinois Department of Transportation to include, in the strategic plan that it puts together, more input on the movement of freight, both by rail and by truck in the State of Illinois. We continue to be a hub for… in the nation for freight and moving this up in terms of its priority and addressing how we move freight in the State of Illinois I think it's really critically important. The other thing that this Bill does is extend the period between IDOT's strategic plans from two years to five years, gives us more 09700032.doc 123  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 time to actually implement the plan before we have to start rethinking it."

"The Lady's moved for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting's open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Acevedo, Mr. Sommer. Mr. Sommer. Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Karen Yarbrough in the Chair."

"Was that for Lou leaving or for me coming? Representative Eddy for a question."

"You seek recognition?"

"I don't have a red coat on."

"Absolutely not."

"Thank you, Representative. Representative May." 09700032.doc 124  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Thank you, Madam Chair. Oh, this is so exciting. Madam Chair, I have to say as a class Member, someone also named Karen, I am so proud of you. Isn't it true this is the first woman ever to be in the Chair? That no… not…"

"I'm not sure about that."

"Not true?"

"I don't think so."

"Okay. Well, it feels like it. It feels like it."

"It's the first woman today."

"The Speaker, in the Speaker's Chair. Yeah. It's… it is amazing. We are so proud of you. Break a leg. You do us all proud with the great work you've done here in the General Assembly."

"Thank you, Representative. Representative Soto for a question?"

"Yes, Madam Cha… Madam Speaker. I like the way that sounds, don't we? Madam Speaker, I am so proud of you and I am proud be your friend and all the girls are standing here and roommate. We're just so proud of you. Good luck."

Speaker Yarbrough: "Thank you. Thank you so much, Representative. Representative Sacia, for what reason do you rise? Would you like to hear your Bill, maybe?"

"House Bill 1560, Representative Sacia. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Sacia." 09700032.doc 125  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Thank you, Representative."

"And on that… on that Bill, Representative May. The Lady indicates she doesn't wish to speak. Representative Davis for a question." Davis, M.: "Thank you… thank you, Madam Speaker, honor to address you as such. Representative Sacia, why would you want to reduce it from one year to five… I mean, from five to one?"

"Representative Leitch seeking recognition."

"He indicates he will."

Speaker Yarbrough: "Representative Jefferson seeking recognition."

"Thank you, Madam Chair. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative, I've got some of the same concerns that were echoed before. Currently, there's a five-year waiting period before this is actually referred to the Treasurer's Office?" 09700032.doc 129  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Okay. And this would expedite that process to one year?"

"And after one year if the monies is not claimed, what happens?"

"From what I understand, you said they make repeated efforts. Do they send letters out to the individuals or do they contact them by phone, or how do they do that?"

"And not trying to be facetious, but if you don't read the newspaper and you don't have access to a website, how long does that money stay in the Treasurer's Office before they have the ability to do something with those dollars?" Sacia: "Representative, it's an excellent question. And I have a representative from the Treasurer's Office with me here assuring me that on infinitum, if you make claims for that money, it's yours if you are the rightful owner."

"Absolutely. But if there aren't claims made, what happens to the money eventually?" 09700032.doc 130  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Do they keep those records for 20 years? They keep those records indefinitely? At what point do they…"

"…at what point do they dispose of those records?"

"So we have files that might date back 50, 100 years ago, is that what you telling me?"

"Okay. You know, I certainly appreciate the fact that we can expedite that matter from five years to one year to get the money to the individuals, but if that doesn't happen after that, then I'm a little concerned about what happens with those dollars and I just want to make sure that this is not something to expedite the process, where the Treasurer's Office can take advantage of those dollars if something else happens in that respect?" 09700032.doc 131  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Who's the representative from the Treasurer's Office, the one in the blue or the one in the red? Thank you, Representative."

"Thank you"

Speaker Yarbrough: "Representative Sullivan seeking recognition."

"Indicates he will."

Speaker Yarbrough: "No one else seeking recognition, Representative Sacia to close."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1560 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 15 voting 'yes', 0… 115 voting 'yea', 0 voting 'nay', and 0 voting 'present'. On this… and the Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is declared passed. Representative Ford, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"A point of personal privilege."

"State your point."

"It sounds so good to hear your voice and it looks so beautiful. So, I want to congratulate you."

"Thank you. Representative Hays, for what reason do you rise?"

"State your point, Sir."

"Welcome to Springfield. Representative Dan Burke, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I think in my 21 years in this chamber, I've only had this first opportunity to say Madam Speaker. Congratulations."

"Thank you, Sir."

"You look very, very good up there. And a point of personal privilege, Madam Speaker. I'd like to introduce some great firefighters from the outstanding City of Berwyn. We have… gentlemen, if you'd stand. I have Tommy Hayes, who's President of Local 506; along with George Buffo, Vice President; Felix Greco, Secretary/Treasurer; Mario Manfredini, Ron Hamilton, Derek Mijares, Al Connelly, Mike Lyons and Bob McCorry. Welcome to our chamber, la… and gentlemen."

Speaker Yarbrough: "Welcome to Springfield. Representative Lang, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. First of all, I do think you look better up there than I do. I just wanted to mention it. My point of personal privilege… during a previous debate when I was in the Chair, there was someone doubting whether the Governor was in Springfield. I would just like to announce the Governor is in Springfield doing the work of the people and doing it quite well. Thank you very much." 09700032.doc 134  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

Speaker Yarbrough: "Thanks for that clarification, Representative. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 1831, Representative Hernandez. Read the Bill."

Speaker Yarbrough: "The Lady from Cook, Representative Hernandez.

"What a pleasure, Madam Speaker. House Bill 1831 changes the method of how bilingual funding will be distributed to CPS, the Chicago Public Schools. Due to a population shift, the Chicago Public Schools have experienced a significant decrease in bilingual services, while suburban and rural districts are experiencing an increase in bilingual services. This Bill will allow a fair distribution of bilingual dollars throughout the state. I ask for a favorable vote."

"No one seeking recognition, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 1831 pass?' All in vote… favor vote 'aye'; those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Mell, Rita. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 115 'yea', 0 'nay', 0 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby passed. Representative Franks, for what reason do you rise?"

"Point of personal privilege, Speaker."

"State your point, Sir."

"I just wanted to add to the chorus and tell you how delighted I am to see you as our Speaker, and a couple of 09700032.doc 135  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 questions, if I could. The first would be, how's the view from there? Tell us, how does it look?"

"The sky is blue, the grass is green and all is right with the world."

"Well, I'm glad that you're enjoying it. The second question then would be, since you're enjoying it so much I was wondering if I could have your old office?"

"The sky is blue, the grass is green and all is right with the world."

"Thank you. I'll take that as a yes."

"Representative Dugan, for what reason do you rise?"

"Madam Speaker, I, too, love to see you up there and I agree with what Representative Lang said, you definitely look much better than Representative Lou Lang. But I'm rising on a point of personal privilege."

"State your point, Ma'am."

"Yes, I, too, would like the House chambers, behind me up here, I have some firefighters, Bill Perkins, Steve Flexser and Mary Robbins from the lovely town of Manteno, Illinois. So, I think if they'd like to stand up, and if you could give them a warm welcome. Thank you."

"Welcome to Springfield. House Bill 1485, Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"On that Bill, Representative Rose."

"Oh." 09700032.doc 136  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"No one seeking recognition, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 1485 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; those opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Gabel. Representative Lang. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 115 'yeas', 0 'nay', 0 'present'. And on this question, this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 141. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Reitz." 09700032.doc 137  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. House Bill 141 amends the Illinois Radon Awareness Act. This basically says that lessors will let future tenants know if there are high radon levels. Representative McCarthy is here to help me on this legislation. He's worked very hard on that. We… It's radon. And basically, well, we worked with all of the interested parties. I know of no opposition. And I probably wouldn't be happy to answer any questions, but I'd do it anyway."

"No one seeking recognition, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 141 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; those opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 115 voting 'yea', 0 voting 'nay', 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1215. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Riley."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. House Bill 1215 basically extends the life of the City of Markham TIF District #3 to 2029. One of the things with surrounding TIFs that expire much later, the City of Markham feels that it's at a disadvantage to be able to give incentives to the many business owners and developers who want to come and develop that particular TIF area. So, they want to extend 09700032.doc 138  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 it from 2017 to 2029. And I would encourage you to help me help the City of Markham with 'aye' votes."

"Representative Eddy seeking recognition."

"Indicates he will."

"Yes, I do, Representative Eddy. Matter of fact, you know, on my analysis the 13 taxing districts including the City of Markham have all signed on as proponents. So, you know, they've gone through that betting process and they're all proponents of it."

Speaker Yarbrough: "No one else seeking recognition, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 1215 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; those opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Sullivan. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 110 'yeas', 4 'nays', 1 'present'. The Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Saviano on House Bill 1228. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Saviano."

"No one seeking recognition, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 1228 pass?' All in favor say 'aye'; those opposed say 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Lyons, do you wish to be recorded? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. With 115 voting 'yea', 0 voting 'nay', 0 'present', and this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3403, Representative Rita. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Mr. Clerk, place this Bill on Order of Second Reading for purposes of an Amendment. House Bill 234. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Schmitz."

"No one seeking recognition, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 234 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; those opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted 09700032.doc 140  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 who wish? Acevedo, Dugan, McAuliffe, Saviano. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are… on House Bill 234, with 114 'yea', 0 'nay', and 1 'present', this Bill, receiving a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Lang."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I filed, at the well, a Motion to reconsider the vote by which that Bill passed."

"Representative Lang moves to reconsider the vote on House Bill 234. All in favor vote 'aye'; those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mussman, Sommer. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 115 voting 'yea', 0 'nay', 0 'present'. This Bill, receiving a Con… and the vote shall be reconsidered. The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' 'Shall House Bill 234 pass?' All in favor say 'aye'… vote 'aye'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Currie. Farnham. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 113 'yea', 0 'nays', and 2 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby passed. Representative Pritchard, for what reason do you rise?"

"State your point, Sir."

Speaker Yarbrough: "Welcome to Springfield. Representative Turner on your House Bill 3091. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Turner, the Gentleman from Cook."

"Can we… can… can I come back to it because I'm having computer issues right now and they're fixing it?"

"Take it out of the record, please."

"Thank you."

"House Bill 1825, Representative Williams. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

Speaker Yarbrough: "Representative Williams, the Lady from Cook."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 1825 is an initiative of the American Cancer Society. It would provide for parity between IV infused, oral chemotherapy, and cancer therapy so that they are equally accessible to patients in terms of copayment and other costs. This Bill is extremely narrowly drafted and only applies to private insurance. It does not mandate new coverage but simply requires parity in coverage for similar cancer drugs…" 09700032.doc 142  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Can we lower the volume in the chamber, please, so the Lady can present her Bill. Go ahead, Representative Williams."

"It does not mandate new coverage but simply requires parity in coverage for similar cancer drugs regardless of the means of delivery of such drugs. The Bill requires health insurance companies to keep up with the groundbreaking advances in cancer treatments by structuring their benefit plans to give patients equal access to these therapies. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Eddy seeking recognition."

"She indicates she will."

"You know, the cost issue really varies based upon drugs, but as a rule, IV infused therapies are not necessarily more or less costly than oral chemotherapy treatments. The issue is, regardless of how much the drug cost, insurance companies cover the benefits based on how their plans are structured. For example, IV infused or traditional cancer therapies are often covered under the medical benefit so the patient may only pay a copayment. However, if the new groundbreaking oral treatments are covered in a plan, they're covered on the prescription component, and therefore, the patient may be subject to very high out of patient… out-of-pocket costs, regardless and unrelated to the cost of the actual drugs." 09700032.doc 143  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Absolutely not. The treatment decision is between a patient and the doctor, and that actually goes to the heart of this Bill, that the reason for putting this Bill forward is so that the patient and doctor can determine the best possible treatment regardless of having to take cost into consideration."

"Well, I think the real issue is how the benefit plans are currently structured. The insurance companies, or some of the insurance companies that may be opposed to the Bill, simply have not structured their benefit plans in a way that keeps up with the amazing advances in technology. For example, a drug provided the IV infused oral chemotherapy may cost $20 thousand, but to the patient, it may only be a small copay; whereas the oral treatment, if there's an alternative or a better treatment available orally, that may only cost 10 thousand for the patient but they have to pay much higher out-of-pocket cost. So I think it's really a drug… a matter of a case by case review of drug costs rather than based on one being 09700032.doc 144  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 more expensive then the other. 'Cause it's really just a means of delivery of the drug."

"Okay."

"Well, and I will point out that the chamber and the manufacturers have indicated that they are neutral on this Bill as well as Blue Cross Blue Shield."

Speaker Yarbrough: "Representative Sullivan seeking recognition."

Speaker Yarbrough: "The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Riley seeking recognition."

"Would the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative, you know, there were some concerns about, you know, some of the opponents, but you really have a diverse number of proponents, matter of fact, you know, you have the American Cancer Society, you've got the Simmon Cancer… Cancer Institute of SIU, and then you have some drug companies, and all these companies are really involved in cancer clinical trials. And so you're to be commended and I think that also speaks to the importance of the Bill, the fact that you have so many diverse entities in support of it, wouldn't you say?"

"Yeah, we do have a large group of support, and I think one issue that we need to make sure we keep in mind is the quality of life issue. In some types of cancer there is an IV infused therapy available, but there may also be an oral therapy option available. This is particularly of interest to people that live downstate are not in close proximity to cancer treatment centers. Some of these patients have to travel up to two, three hours to get cancer treatment. Their spouse has to take off of work, they have to take off of work, if they're able to, sit there and get the chemo for three hours. It's really an amazing groundbreaking area and we're just asking the insurance companies to keep up with it by structuring their plans accordingly." 09700032.doc 147  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Representative, I guess in another life I was chief of biostatistics for the Illinois Cancer Council back in the 1980s, and that's what we did were cancer clinical trials both sponsored by drug companies and we also got new drugs from the National Cancer Institute. One of the things about what you're saying, sometimes there's not necessarily an oral analog for a drug, some things… cisplatin, fluorouracil, drugs like that have to be administered by IV, but there are a lot of treatments that are very well tolerated orally. And I just think that this a great Bill. To the Bill, Madam Speaker."

"To the Bill."

"This is a good Bill that she's proposing. And one of the things we always have to take in consideration is the care of the patient, the care of the patient, and I think this Bill speaks to that and it gives people a viable option. And I would hope that you would all join with me in supporting this Bill. Thank you."

Speaker Yarbrough: "The Gentleman from Champaign, Representative Rose."

"Yes."

"She indicates she will."

Speaker Yarbrough: "The Lady from DuPage, Representative Bellock."

"Representative Williams to close."

"I appreciate all the discussion on this Bill and would appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1825 pass?' All in favor say (sic–vote)'aye'; those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mussman, would you like to be recorded? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 115 'yeas', 0 'nays', and 0 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby passed. Representative Turner, is this you first Bill, Sir?"

"Thank you, Madam Speaker."

"On… on House Bill 3091. Mr. Clerk, read the record… read the Bill."

"Representative Turner. Sir, did you say this was your first Bill?"

"Yes, Ma'am."

"Go at it."

"Thank you. Thank you, Madam Speaker. House Bill 3091 amends the Consumer Fraud and Deceptive Business Practices Act to state that a locksmith cannot begin work on a project that will exceed a cost of $100 until the locksmith provides a written estimate of all costs which cannot be 09700032.doc 150  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 exceeded by more than 10 percent without the written consent of the consumer or a written price limit of the total cost that cannot be exceeded without the written consent of the consumer. We passed an Amendment on the Bill that will limit it to situations where… for personal family and household use, not commercial. I'd like a favorable vote from the Assembly. Thank you."

"Representative Reis seeking recognition. Out of the record. Representative Bost."

"He indicates he will."

"Yes."

"We used computers."

"It was brought to me by the Cook County State's Attorney's Office."

"Right. So, it's just putting more control in the consumer's hand. If the price of the work will exceed $100, then the consumer will receive a written estimate that will detail the price fee and anything that would be different from that, the consumer doesn't have to sign on to it."

"It just has to be written; it's not necessarily a bid. It's just… it just gives…"

"No, it's… it can't exceed 10 percent without the written consent of the consumer."

"Right."

"Well, there are issues of price gouging almost where the consumer would search… look for the services, the locksmith would come out, tell the consumer one price and 09700032.doc 152  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 then begin the work and start to finish it and tell the consumer that it would be a lot higher than the initial price that was stated. So, this is an effort to get the consumer and the locksmith on one page right from the beginning, and if it's going to exceed that amount by 10 percent, then it has to have the written consent of the consumer."

"It… it won't have a negative impact on them or their business. It just requires that they give a written estimate if it's going to be over $100. It's just protection for the consumer in this case."

"I have heard of no opponents to this point."

"Thank you."

"Representative Reboletti, for what reason do you rise?"

"He indicates he will."

"This doesn't… this Bill doesn't address that, but DFPR can go under unlicensed practicing…"

"…locksmiths."

"If it's over $100, yes. Most car lockouts, I would assume, would be under $100."

"Just to have a record of it on file."

"I don't know."

"Thank you."

"Representative Lang, seeking recognition? No. The Gentleman declines. Representative Davis, Will Davis, seeking recognition?" Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, will the Sponsor yield?" 09700032.doc 155  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"He indicates he will." Davis, W.: "Representative, the previous speaker felt that the issue that you're really trying to get at you wouldn't get at, but certainly, if they're unlicensed individuals out operating and practicing, you're right, it is very hard to regulate those individuals. I'm sure there are a number of unlicensed plumbers out there, unlicensed handyman, you know, people doing business. But certainly if you pick up the phone book and call someone, you expect… or there is an expectation that that is a licensed individual or you certainly can ask them if they are a licensed individual. So, in respect to dealing with locksmith, how is asking a locksmith to provide a detail receipt any different than asking a plumber or any other type of person in a phone book to provide a detailed receipt of the services?"

"Not very different at all." Davis, W.: "Exactly. It's nothing difficult, but these are services that we can ask for and do receive the written estimates for because you know the work is going to exceed a certain amount, so why not want to. I'm addressing… dealing with the Bill with landlords and if they take a fee for an application, we're asking for some type of written receipt that explains how that fee is going to be utilized. So, it's not much different than that and what we ask for, for other professions in terms of providing a written estimate if that fee is going to exceed $100. So, while the Gentleman indicated that he would vote 'no', Ladies and Gentlemen, this is not much different than what we require from other various possessions… professions, individuals 09700032.doc 156  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 that come to work on our homes and do things in our homes. They come, they check out the situation and they provide you with a written estimate. How is this any different than that? I certainly encourage all Members to vote 'yes' on this Bill. Thank you."

"Representative Lang, seeking recognition, Sir?"

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"I just want to recall, this is your first Bill. Is that right, Sir?"

"Yes, Sir."

"How you enjoying it so far?"

"It's coming along."

"Coming along. We'll see about that. So, this involves locksmiths and locksmiths only?"

"Yes, Sir."

"What if a handyman who is not a licensed locksmith is doing work at your home and doing these kind of services, are they covered by your Bill?"

"This Bill pertains to licensed locksmiths."

"So a licensed locksmith has to provide this written estimate?"

"Yes, Sir."

"But a unlicensed locksmith does not have to provide this written estimate?"

"This Bill deals with un… with licensed locksmiths who do work that exceed the cost of $100. It just provides that they would give the consumer a written estimate." 09700032.doc 157  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Well, if someone was a unscrupulous locksmith, wouldn't this be an incentive for them not to be licensed, to do the work anyway but then just rip people off without getting the license?"

"In that case, the department would go after them. I don't think it would encourage it."

"So, it's illegal to do locksmith work unless you have a license to be a locksmith?"

"For hire, it is."

"So if my handyman who does a lot of work around my house could be painting, it could be fixing concrete, he does a lot of things around my house. If I ask him to work on my front door lock, is he in violation of the law?"

"I'd have to look into that for you."

"Well, we should do that. We should do that. So, let me ask you this question. So if… if it's over $100 they have to put it in writing. What if they're doing two things that total $150 and they split it into two orders, each of them 75 each, do they have to provide a written estimate?"

"It doesn't really speak to that, but why would they split the bill into two?"

"Sir, this is your first Bill, I get to ask the questions. You can ask all you want, but I'm not answering any questions. I did that on my first Bill and I didn't have a red coat to wear and I notice you're not wearing one. You're not even wearing red. Aren't you in violation of some rule around here? So… and so you didn't have an answer to that question, so I'll just forge ahead. So when the written estimate is given, does this… can a person… do 09700032.doc 158  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 they have a three-day right to rescind as they do under some other… like Federal Laws? I'm asking some tough questions, even staff does not know the answers to these questions."

"I'd have to look into that."

"All right. So when the Bill goes over to the Senate, these 10 things you're going to look into, I hope you'll look into them when the Bill is over there. Thank you, Sir."

"Thank you."

"Representative Mayfield."

"Excuse me, Representative. I just had a… I have a couple of questions. Do you feel that you're special because you share the name of a distinguished past Representative?"

"No, Ma'am."

"Then can you please explain your blatant disregard for tradition and not wearing a red jacket?"

"Well, I'm told it's not totally tradition, but I didn't… I didn't… I wasn't aware that I was going to have my Bill called today."

"Okay. Are you prepared to remove the Bill from record until you are dressed appropriately to address this Bill?"

"No, I don't look so good in red."

"Okay. I feel that we need to pull out the trophy and everyone in here should present a 'no' vote on this Bill until he puts on a red jacket. Oh, here we go. 09700032.doc 159  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 Mockman (sic-Morthland) to the rescue. Thank you so much. I feel much better now."

"Representative Eddy seeking recognition."

"I'm sure he will."

"This could get me in trouble in my neighborhood."

"Yeah, I do."

"I sent him a text message."

"He's not so quick, he didn't text me back."

"No, I think…"

"…he'll be all right."

"He might."

"He might."

"If they're… if they're a business operating for hire, yes."

"This Bill pertains to licensed locksmiths."

"Yes."

"Representative Eddy, if I could interrupt you just for a minute. We have father Art Turner on the phone."

"Say hi."

"How are you, Art?"

"He looks nice in red."

"No, he's not."

"He's just retired, he's relaxing."

"I see him every now and then."

"He's doing well."

"Thank you."

"They have to receive the written consent of the consumer."

"If's it's going to be 10 percent over, yes."

"They may have to."

"I hope they brought a jacket."

"It may be okay now Thaddeus pulled it, so…"

"It would probably be all right."

"The Attorney General can or the state's attorney can take legal action at that point. The Act already provides 09700032.doc 163  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 for penalties. We're not looking to increase those penalties."

"Those penalties are already provided under law."

"No, her office will take action I'm sure."

"Thank you."

"Thank you."

Speaker Yarbrough: "No one else seeking recognition, Representative Turner to close."

"Thank you, Members of the General Assembly. I'd like your support on this Bill."

"And the question is, 'Shall House Bill 3091 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Brauer, McAuliffe, Poe, Saviano. Clerk, take the record. On this 09700032.doc 164  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 question, there are 97 'yeas', 18 'nays' and 0 'present'. And this Bill, receiving a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed."

"Speaker Madigan in the Chair. Ladies and Gentlemen, if I could have your attention. We have a very distinguished guest with us today and I'm going to ask him to offer some brief remarks to all of you. Thirty years ago today, there was an attempted assassination of President Reagan. And you may remember that one of the Secret Service Agents assigned to protect President Reagan was shot with a bullet on that day and survived the attempted killing, and it happened because he threw his body in front of President Reagan. And so, it's really with great pleasure that I introduce you to Mr. Tim McCarthy, the Secret Service Agent who was wounded on that day. Mr. McCarthy."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, very gracious and kind of you to introduce me here today. And Representative McCarthy, no, we're not related. Kevin just says he's the one that took the bullet for the last 30 years and it keeps getting him elected, so that's good. But I just want to thank you for the opportunity to see you all here today. I'm down here with Illinois Chiefs of Police discussing some of our legislative issues along the way. But again, thank you so much for being here. Good luck in your work in supporting the people of the State of Illinois 'cause I’m one of them and so happy to get back from D.C., albeit 15 years ago, to get back to Illinois and my hometown. Thank you so much again, Mr. Speaker." 09700032.doc 165  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Tim will be right down here in the well, if you wish to greet him and thank him for his service to the nation. Representative Yarbrough in the Chair. Representative Lyons in the Chair."

"Representative Jones, for what purpose do you seek recognition, Sir?"

"Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed."

"I'd like to introduce the hardworking men and women of my district, firefighters from the Village of Dolton. The president of the Dolton firefighters, Dave DuVall, and also the president of the South Holland firefighters, Tony Dinovo. These guys… they've been in the gallery."

"Welcome to Springfield, gentlemen. Glad to have you here. Representative Sacia, for what purpose do you seek recognition, Sir?"

"Please proceed."

"Representative Robyn Gabel, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Point of order. I… I voted 'yes' on House Bill 1577 and I meant to vote 'no'. Could the record reflect that?"

Speaker Lyons: "The Journal will reflect your request. Representative Dan Biss, what purpose you seek recognition, Sir?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of order. I ask that the record reflect my intention to vote 'no' on House Bill 1577."

Speaker Lyons: "The Journal will reflect your wishes, Representative."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Representative Hernandez."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed."

"Yes, I'd just like to… if all could give a warm welcome to our brave Cicero fire fires… fighters of Local 717. Let's give them a warm welcome."

"Welcome to Springfield, guys. Glad to have you. Enjoy your day. Representative Tom Holbrook." 09700032.doc 167  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Thank you, Speaker. I also have my firefighters from Belleville here with me, Brian Maine and his whole crew right behind me here in the upper gallery. I'd like to welcome them."

"Welcome, Belleville firefighters. Glad to have you. Representative Will Burns, for what purpose do you seek recognition, Sir?"

"I rise on a matter of personal privilege, Mr. Speaker."

"Please proceed."

"Yes, on House Bill 1577 I'd like the record to reflect that my intention was to vote 'no' on that Bill. My… I think there was something wrong with my voting switch and it inadvertently was green."

Speaker Lyons: "The technician over there to correct that switch, Representative, or is it under control now?"

"Thank you…"

"It's under control? Does your…"

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker."

"The Jou… the Journal will reflect your wishes alderman… Representative. Representative Williams, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like the record to reflect I meant to vote 'no' on House Bill 1577."

Speaker Lyons: "The Journal will reflect your wishes. Representative Senger, I think you'd be next to… in line to run a House Bill on Third Reading, House Bill 2053. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Lady from DuPage, Representative Senger."

"You heard the Lady's explanation. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, the question is, 'Should House Bill 2053 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Burns, Representative Chapa LaVia. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 113 Members voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Sosnowski, you have Sen… House Bill 2984. Out of the record. Representative Mike Tryon, on the Order of Third Reading, you have House Bill 1101. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Gentleman from McHenry, Representative Mike Tryon."

"You heard the Gentleman's explanation. Are there any questions? Seeing none, the question is, 'Should House Bill 1101 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Colvin, Feigenholtz, Mell, Nekritz, you'd like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 115 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Unes, you have House Bill 1708. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Lyons: "The Gentleman from Tazewell, Representative Unes."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Mike Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of the Gentleman's Bill. This is a merely drawn piece of legislation that will allow law enforcement, specifically SWAT officers, to perform their duties to protect both their safety and those involved in those… these sort of situations. This is a good Bill and I ask the Body to vote 'aye'."

Speaker Lyons: "The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook, Representative Golar."

"Mr. Speaker, I would like the record to reflect on House Bill…"

"Representative, let me get right back to you. Let's finish this debate and I'll get right back to you at…"

"Okay. Thank…"

"Is there anyone seeking further discussion? Seeing none, the question is, 'Should House Bill 1708 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative McGuire. Jack. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 115 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 09700032.doc 171  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Rep… Representative Golar, you have a point of order?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like the record to reflect that I am a 'no' on House Bill 2053."

"The Journal will reflect your request."

"Thank you."

"Representative Art Turner, what purpose you seek recognition, Sir?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of order. I'd like to be recorded as a 'no' vote on 1577, House Bill 1577."

Speaker Lyons: "The Journal will reflect your request. Representative Ron Stephens, you have, on the Order of Third Reading, House Bill 3222. Read the Bill Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Stephens."

"You've heard the Gentleman's explanation. Is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from McHenry, Representative Jack Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Why?" 09700032.doc 172  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Because right now, they're able… they're required actually for a school business off… official endorsement to have a master's degree. Does it say what kind?"

"Pardon me?"

"No, go right ahead."

"You're fine."

"Thank you. I wasn't sure because that's not exactly how our…"

"…executive summary."

"I appreciate that. Thank you."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Will Davis." 09700032.doc 173  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Representative Stephens, do you have a master's degree in public administration?"

"Representative Stephens to close."

"The question is, 'Should House Bill 3222 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Keith Sommer. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 113 Members voting 'yes', 2 Members voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Nybo, for what purpose do you seek recognition, Sir?"

"Please proceed."

"Representative Pat Verschoore, you have, on Third Reading, House Bill 2987. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Verschoore."

"Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. What this Bill does, it creates the Project Labor Agreement Act that requires the state department, agency, authority, board or instrumentally (sic- instrumentality) under the control of the Governor, to include a project labor agreement on a public work's project when the department, agency, authority, board or instrumentally (sic-instrumentality) determines that the agreement advances the state's interest and requires the state department, agency, authority, board or construction industry to set out the terms to be included in that project labor agreement and requires a percu… Procurement Code. Provides that the Illinois Procurement Code is subject to the applicable provisions of the project labor agreement. This is nothing new. We're doing it now only it's under the Governor, the direction. This would be codifying the law and making it a statute. It has provisions in it for their… the quotas for minorities and it also has provisions in it to help returning veterans. And a few of the… the content of the PLAs is they're effective immediately and a mutually binding procedure for resolving labor disputes and grievances that arise before completion of the project. Guarantees against strikes and lockouts and other stoppages. Ensures reliable sources of 09700032.doc 176  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 skilled and experienced labor, further public policies adjust these encourage diversity that permits the selection of the lowest qualified bidder without regard to union or nonunion status on the project. Binds all contractors and subcontractors on the project through the inclusion of bid specifications and are relevant documents. It includes any other terms deemed appropriate for both bodies. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Jasper, Representative Reis."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, why do we need this over what we have right now?"

"Well, it's just a way that we can do this, make it a statute. It just codifies the law. Like I said, we're not doing anything different than we were before or we're doing now, I should say."

"Right."

"Right."

"That's exactly right. It's no different. It just codifies it and puts it under the department agency's head and they… it doesn't mean that they have to do all projects 09700032.doc 177  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 that are labor agreement. They may if it's to the benefit of the state as far as making sure that the project gets done time… done on time, under budget, and there's no work stoppages."

"Well, they work well for the contractors and for business."

"Well, it can work for nonunion contractors too. They can bid on the project."

"Hire their own workers, that's true."

"They can bid on them and their members can become members."

"They… the nonunion workers can go into that union and sign up. They're getting better pay and better benefits."

"Representative Reis, we'll give you another minute to finish your remarks."

"The Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative Tom Holbrook."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question of the Sponsor. Will he yield?"

"He awaits your question, Sir."

"Representative Verschoore, sometimes utility companies must relocate their facilities as a result of public works projects. Does this Bill also require utility companies to establish project labor agreements?"

"No. This Bill only applies directly to contracts of the state; therefore, the Bill does not cover utility relocation facilities and are done at the utility's expenses in support of their own network."

"Thank you."

"Thank you."

Speaker Lyons: "The Gentleman from Morgan, Representative Watson."

"Sponsor yields."

"That's correct."

"By the Governor Blagojevich originally."

"Pardon me? I couldn't hear you?"

"Some of them not so good. But the contractor whether they're nonunion or union has to pay prevailing wage, so the… Mr… the previous speaker said that it would cost more money, it wouldn't cost more money. They have to pay the prevailing wage anyhow and benefits. So, it's not… it's not a situation where they to have pay, it'd be costing more money."

"Well, what… the state can use it… like I said earlier, the state can use these when it's beneficial to them if they feel like they can't afford any work stoppages or there's a time limit on the job that needs to be done and/or if it needs to be on budget. Most PLA agreements, I'm not saying all, but the biggest percentage of PLA agreements come in on budget, under time and without any work stoppages. So, that's the benefit."

"Representative, we'll give you another minute to finish your thoughts."

"The Gentleman from Winnebago, Representative Jim Sacia."

"Sponsor yields."

"For the state… for a state?"

"It would be no difference because they're… like I said earlier, they have to pay prevailing wage on the job, so there would be no difference."

"So noted."

"I would not think it would be that high. You might know a bit more than I do on that, but I wouldn't think it'd be that much."

"I'll give you another minute to finish your thoughts, Representative Sacia."

Speaker Lyons: "Representative Verschoore… Representative Phelps."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

"The Gentleman yields."

"Representative Verschoore, isn't it true that this Bill does not prohibit anyone, either union or nonunion…"

"Yes."

"…from doing any type of project with PLAs?"

"On any type of projects, and as the two previous speakers were trying to point out, it says that the nonunion would not be able to compete. They absolutely would be able to compete. This is… this is for a state… this is a state… for State Law. This doesn't affect other jobs; it's just on state jobs. And they have to pay prevailing wage and so they'd have to pay the same… the same amount of money. It would not cost anymore."

"Okay. Representative, real quick too. Isn't it true it's a business decision when a nonunion contractor doesn't want to bid on a PLA? It's just their business decision, correct?"

"That's right. It's their business decision because they can bid on it if they want to."

"Also, many times in these PLA cases, in these jobs, usually it saves money because they're time sensitive and it gets done earlier, so therefore, the municipality or the government can save money on this, correct?"

"That’s correct. There's…"

"To the Bill. Thank you, Representative Verschoore for bringing this up. If this was discriminatory, PLAs were 09700032.doc 184  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 discriminatory, the Supreme Court would never have upheld this some 20 years ago. So, I think the Gentleman has a great Bill and I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Cavaletto."

"You're the last speaker. Did you ask for the call on the previous question? You were the last speaker anyway, Representative. Representative Verschoore to close."

"I would just ask for your 'aye' vote. And I do want to stress again that this does not exclude anyone. Anyone can bid on this. It has protections in there in the Bill that says 'shall'… or 'may' rather than 'shall' use these agreements. So, it's… and everybody is able to bid on it and they would not… it wouldn't make any difference in cost because whether it's a nonunion or a union company they have to pay the prevailing wage and benefit package. So, I would ask for an 'aye' vote. Thank you very much."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, Representative Sacia has asked for a verification of the vote. Members are asked to please vote their own switch. The question is, 'Should House Bill 2987 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Smith, Nekritz, May, Lang, Jakobsson, Feigenholtz. Mr. Clerk, take the record. Representative Verschoore." Verschoore: "Could I put this on Postponed Consideration, please?" 09700032.doc 185  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Mr. Clerk, on the request of the Sponsor, put this Bill on Postponed Consideration. Representative Jehan Gordon, for what purpose to you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise at a point of personal privilege. Members, if you would please indulge me for about 17 seconds and give a warm Springfield welcome to eight brave men from Peoria, Illinois. Peoria FireFighters Local 50, if you would please stand and have Springfield's finest honor you: Steve Rada, Rick Waldron, Mike Ralston, Josh Maroney, Andy Perry, Shawn Sollberger, Jay Simmons, and Ralph Phillips. Thank you for all that you do for our community."

"Welcom… welcome Peoria firefighters, enjoy your day. Representative Mayfield, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Speaker, I would like to annotate that on House Bill 1577 I'd like to be recorded as a 'no' vote."

Speaker Lyons: "The Journal will reflect your wishes. Representative Senger, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Please proceed."

"Welcome Naperville firefighters. Proud to have you here. Enjoy your day. Representative Jim Watson, on the Order of Third Reading, House Bill 237. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09700032.doc 186  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Representative Jim Watson."

"Is there any discussion? Seeing none, the question is, 'Should House Bill 237 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Chapa LaVia, Crespo, Cunningham and Lang, would you like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 110 Members voting 'yes', 1 Member voting 'no', 2 Members voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Riley, for what purpose do you seek recognition, Sir?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like for the record to reflect that on House Bill… the vote on House Bill 1577, I'd like to be recorded as a 'no' vote."

Speaker Lyons: "The Journal will reflect your wishes. Continuing in Order of Third Bill… Third Readings of House Bills, Representative Bellock, you have House Bill 1662. Patti Bellock, 1662. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09700032.doc 187  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

Speaker Lyons: "The Lady from DuPage, Representative Patti Bellock."

"Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor of House Bill 1662 should vote 'yes; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Kelly Burke. Mary Flowers. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 115 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative John Bradley. Is Representative John Bradley on the floor? Representative Michael Bost, on the Order of Third Reading you have House Bill 1157. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09700032.doc 188  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Representative Mike Bost."

"You heard the Gentleman's explanation. Are there any questions? The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook, Representative Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think, Representative Bost, we discussed this in committee. And I think one of the things we said was, you know, this one Body is going to undo the work of many Legislative Bodies. Is that correct?"

"We'll give you another minute, Representative, to finish the questions."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Will Davis." Davis, W.: "Mr. Speaker, will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields." Davis, W.: "Representative, as I read our analysis and it talks about where… that are subject to appropriation which haven't received funding, are you making a distinction between GRF and other funds?"

"Give you another minute, Representative." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much. So, I'm just trying to see if this makes a distinction between those kinds of funds…"

Speaker Lyons: "The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from McHenry, Representative Jack Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, you brought this to committee and I thought it was a good idea and I appreciate the fact that you put in the Amendment increasing it from four to seven years. And the reason we change that, as I recall, is because that way we wouldn't be held hostage to one gubernatorial term, but instead, it would increase it to two, correct?"

"And we're not taking money away from any programs are we?"

"All we're doing is saying that if you haven't been funded for seven years that these line items would go away…"

"…and if we ever wanted to reinstate them, we could, but at least this way they would not be able to be played with by any clever Governor who might want to temporarily put things in certain line items then take them out and create a private slush fund."

"Well, and… as we have seen in the previous administration when we had some audits in our State Government Administration Committee, we found that the previous administration had created slush funds from taking line items from unused programs, moving it over to another line item and then spending it on no-bid contracts."

"In some cases, companies that did not even exist got $35 million no-bid contracts by sweeping these line items. So, I think we'd be negligent if we did not close these line items that aren't being used, wouldn't you agree?"

"But to the Bill. This is… when we have a $15 billion budget deficit and there are ways that we can take away line items so they can't be abused by someone who may not 09700032.doc 196  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 be on the same page as the General Assembly, we ought to do it. This is the year that we instituted the budgeting for outcomes, and we can thank Representative Sente for that. Because of the budgeting for outcomes, this Bill will work in conjunction with that to get rid of non-used line items. Everyone of us should vote 'yes' on this Bill."

"Representative Watson."

"Representative Reboletti."

"Representative Bost to close."

"The question is, 'Should House Bill 1157 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Brady, Gabel, Jackson, May, Stephens, like 09700032.doc 198  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 to be recorded? Mr. Clerk… Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 99 Members voting 'yes', 15 Members voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Kelly Burke, on the Order of Third Readings you have House Bill 1670. Representative Burke, you ready? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

Speaker Lyons: "The Lady from Cook, Representative Kelly Burke." Burke, K.: "…Speaker. House Bill 1670 adds a requirement to the Open Meetings Act, that requires all members of a public body to take the Attorney General's online Open Meetings Act training. And for people who are currently with… currently a member of a public body that's subject to the Open Meetings Act, they'd have a year to do that, and for people who are newly elected or appointed to a public body, they'd have six months from the time they're elected or appointed. I ask for a 'yes' vote on this."

"You've heard the Lady's explanation. Is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman… the Gentleman from Crawford, Representative Roger Eddy."

"Sponsor yields." Burke, K.: "Yes."

"We'll give you another minute to finish the discussion. Go ahead, Representative, finish your answer." Burke, K.: "I believe that the initial opposition was from the county clerks and county assessors. And they were included in the original Bill, but as it's been amended, it only includes members of bodies. If you've taken the training, it takes about a half hour. It's not anything more rigorous than… it would take 45 minutes at top. And when people serve on a public body, they have a responsibility to inform themselves about what is the law that covers them, and I don't think that's a very… I don't think this particular requirement is all that terrible for them."

Speaker Lyons: "The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?" Burke, K.: "Yes."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, is a 'public body' that you're referring to in the Bill is that the same definition that's in the Open Meetings Act?" Burke, K.: "Yes."

"So, the concern I have with the Bill is that there are a lot of bodies that membership interchanges throughout the course of the year. People quit and then they rejoin or they go to this body and then they go to that body and they may not be aware of the training that they are required to have under the Bill. So, I'm wondering if there was ever any consideration of narrowing the definition of a 'public body' so that people know when they… if there's any length of tenure requirements so that we can be a little more concrete about who has to actually undergo the training?" Burke, K.: "Well, I think… two things. That… there… each body should have a person designated to be the FOIA person and Open Meeting's person, and that… that person should be 09700032.doc 202  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 telling these people and you need to do this training. There's also a six-month window that they need to complete it in, so if they're on the board for less than…"

"Okay. I didn't know that." Burke, K.: "…six months that…"

"It's good to know." Burke, K.: "And I just do want to stress that there is no penalties…"

"Sure." Burke, K.: "…to raise awareness and make people understand their obligations."

"The concern is that even if there's no penalty you have a lot on these boards. Sometimes opposition groups can come up and they could use that as a wedge to cause friction in the board. You didn't take the training, he did take the training, so that, you know, it could be… it could become cumbersome and impede the board from doing its work. So, that would be, even those there's no penalty, that would be the concern I would have. But I think this six-month window which I didn't see in the analysis is… is good to know. So, thank you very much."

Speaker Lyons: "The Gentleman from Jasper, Representative Reis."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Burke to close." Burke, K.: "Representative, just to answer that quickly, perhaps I didn't make myself clear. That provision is not in the Bill any longer, the Amendment removed that provision. It's merely… there is no penalty, you're free to run…"

Speaker Lyons: "Close, Representative Burke, discussion's over." Burke, K.: "I urge a 'yes' vote on House Bill 1670."

"The question is, 'Should House Bill 1670 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed 09700032.doc 205  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? DeLuca, Osterman, Smith. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 67 'yeas', 48 'noes'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority is here… hereby declared passed. Representative John Cavaletto, you have, on Third Reading, House Bill 3179. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Cavaletto."

"You heard the Gentleman's explanation on House Bill 3179. Is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Will Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Davis, W.: "Representative, in your opening statement, you said if a child is absent. Is there a difference between absent and an excused absence?" 09700032.doc 206  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Representative Jack Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, is there a statewide standard for the definition of excused versus unexcused absence or is it something that is subjective based on whatever the school district wants to do?"

"Yes. And that's… I'm concerned with that because let's assume you have a rural school district and you have a Muslim family that moves in from India or Pakistan, and they have a number of feast days or during the Feast of Ramadan, for instance, they might have to be at the mosque. And the mosque may not be anywhere near the district and that student has to travel, and this is 4 or 5 days due to the fact that they to go for religious reasons. There is no statewide standard that would allow that to be an excused absence. Isn't that correct?"

"Not necessarily, there is no statewide standard for that. I can tell you, in my family, my kids have been unexcused when we've gone for Jewish holidays."

"But it's not a standard."

"And my point… my point is, there is no uniformity with this. So, one school can make it excused and another may not. Wouldn't that… wouldn't you agree to that?"

"Okay. Well, that's the problem."

"That's the problem though. We need a… we don't want a subjective standard, we want to have a uniform standard. So, if those same kids were at a different school district, those kids would not be deemed excused… unexcused, but those could be excused."

"I understand, but that's… but I want to get to how we figure out whether they're excused…"

"Give you another minute to continue."

"I might need more then one minute. Now, right now, they can miss up to 18 days if you have 180 school days and they have 10 percent, then they would not be considered a chronic truant; however, you're trying to cut this in half, and that was where I was going because if there's not a… if 09700032.doc 208  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 there is a subjective and not a standard. So, for instance, those kids for religious reasons missed, and then assume that they want to go home to Pakistan or India to do some religious things for a wedding, and because they're going to miss 4 days over… or 3 days over Thanksgiving and their flight is late coming back for Thanksgiving, now they've missed 5 days and then they've missed the 4 days or 5 days for the religion, now at 10 days they're a chronic truant."

"We all… we all do."

"We all do. Is there any scientific evidence? What do other states do when they determine a chronic truant? Are they at 10 percent…"

"Representative, I gave you an extra minute on that. And Representative Mary Flowers, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"I would like to yield my time to Representative Franks."

"Representative Franks for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mary. What do the other states do? And I want to know how you came up with…"

"How did you come up with 5 percent because our analysis indicates…" 09700032.doc 209  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Well…"

"But that's not you're doing. You're telling us we have to have statewide standard and then deal with every individual school district with your standard."

"That's exactly what he's doing."

"We all want to keep kids in school, but until we have a standard, what we need to do is change the School Code and talk to the State Board of Education, and why don't we have a uniform code so we'll know what's excused and what isn't. I don't want some kid to find out that it wasn't excused and now they're a chronic truant because they went home for some religious thing." 09700032.doc 210  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Well, why is the Chicago Public Schools against it?"

"Well, our analysis indicates that the Chicago Public Schools is an opponent."

"No, no. What I want you to do is make a standard for the entire state through the State Board of Education so we'll all know that we're all on the same playing field. I don't care if it's 5 percent; I don't care if it's 10 percent. What I…"

"Representative, your time has expired, and you were given extra time. Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Crawford, Representative Roger Eddy."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Lee, Representative Jerry Mitchell." Mitchell, J.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, I want to reiterate what the previous speaker just said, and the Gentleman that had a concern with this Bill, the 09700032.doc 212  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 problem with the argument was that you're arguing two totally different points. Now if you want to have a standard for what chronic truancy is, that's a different Bill. This Bill simply changes the standard that's already there. We're not arguing that. We're saying that we're going to catch truants sooner and give them the help they need so that don't become chronic truants. I don't know how anybody with a logical mind cannot see that this is a good way of making sure, especially, young kids in the elementary school stay in school, and that's where this will have the most emphasis is with the young kids that are still impressionable, still have a chance to turn around that truancy problem that they have. It's an excellent Bill. I also recommend an 'aye' vote. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Keith Farnham."

"I'd like to yield my time to Representative Franks."

"Representative Franks for two minutes."

"Thank you. I think the question is, we all want to keep kids in school, but the question is, how we count. And now one of the previous speakers that talked about local control and some of the schools would let off someone to go hunting and not count that as an unexcused absence. Well, I can tell you, they're not going to give that off in Chicago, if you go to Chicago Public Schools. They're not going to say you can have the day off to go hunting. So what I'm saying is, if we're going to change the standard, and it might be a good idea to change the standard, but 09700032.doc 213  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 what we should be doing before we change the standard is know how we count the days the kids are missing. Because I don't want one kid to be declared a chronic truant because he's able to go hunting if he lives in McHenry County, but if he wanted to go hunting and he lived in Chicago, he would be coun… he would not be allowed to do that because he would be considered a chronic truant. I like the idea. This Bill though won't get us there and I think it will cause more confusion. What we ought to do is change the standard. I'd ask the Speaker… or the Sponsor to please move this back to Second, let's get a standard and let's do that, because without a standard our kids are going to be treated differently, and that's not what we want to do. We want to keep our kids in school, but we don't want to punish those kids based on where they live."

Speaker Lyons: "The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Sangamon, Representative Raymond Poe."

"Representative Eddy."

"Representative Brauer."

"Representative Mitchell. You have two minutes. Representative Soto will be the last speaker and then Representative Cavaletto to close. So…" 09700032.doc 215  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 Mitchell, J.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, just one more time. The speaker that… that is concerned about this Bill, that point is well-taken, but it really is not a point in this Bill. His point… he emphasized exactly where we stand when he said that if a student from Chicago took a day off for hunting, it would not be excused, and that's the reason why local council… local control is so important. That's up to the local school district, but that's the other side of the coin. If we're going to count days, the local school district has to understand what it is and the students have to understand what they are. If they do, we don't have a problem with it. There doesn't need to be a standard to that, but that's a different Bill and a different argument. This Bill simply says, we want to change the standard that is and make it better. Now if you like that, vote for the Bill; if you don't want to change the standard that's already there, then vote 'no'. But for me, I think it's a great Bill. I'm voting 'yes'. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Representative Soto will be our last speaker then Representative Cavaletto to close."

"Thank…"

"Representative Soto."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I'm in support of this Bill because, you know what, in Illinois we have a high dropout in our communities, especially in minority communities. I think this is a very good Bill and I'm going to be supporting the Gentleman's Bill. Thank you. I urge an 'aye' vote." 09700032.doc 216  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Representative John Cavaletto to close."

"The question is, 'Should House Bill 3179 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Colvin, Representative Lilly. Representative Colvin, Representative Lilly. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 108 'yeses', 6 'noes', 1 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Roger Eddy, we're going to put you to work on behalf of Representative Cross. We have House Bill 197. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Roger Eddy."

Speaker Lyons: "Representative Jackson, your light was on. Representative Jackson. No, okay. Representative Jack Franks."

"I was so right on the last one, I figured I'd ask on this one. Now your Amendment, you were at 18 members and you decided to go to 22, correct?"

"Your… in your original Bill, the introduced Bill, you had 18 members and now with your Amendment you've increased it to 22?"

"Okay. I just… I had to smile because this is on a commission on fiscal responsibility. Why do we want to have bigger government?"

"Thank you."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Lou Lang."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Is this your first Bill, Sir?"

"So, let me… do these Members get paid?"

"So, they don't even get expenses, gas money, mileage, hotel rooms."

"I'll give you all the time you want, Sir."

"Well, then I guess we have to assume they wouldn't be. You think you'll find 22 people willing to serve on this commission if they're not even getting paid gas mileage?"

"I have no idea what you just said. Would you… would you agree though that if they end up getting paid for expenses the 22-member commission will cost more than an 18-member commission?"

"This would seem to be something Mr. Biss and Mr. Fortner should be debating, correct?"

"Well, I don't think you answered my question though. If they decide to pay them for mileage, and if they have to rent places to have their meetings, you would agree with me that more people means more expenses, would you not?"

"All right. Well…"

"So, then why not…"

"So, if it's free for all of these people, why not have a commission of 220 people?"

"I see."

"Well, do you know what that number is? Do you know where that number comes in, Sir?"

"Well, I think you've answered all of my questions, not well, but I think you've answered all of my questions."

Speaker Lyons: "The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Hays. Does not seek recognition. Representative Eddy to close."

"You heard the Gentleman's explanation. The question is, 'Should House Bill 197 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Burns, Chapa LaVia, May. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 114 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Jackson, thanks for your patience. For what purpose do you seek recognition, Sir?"

"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to be recorded as voting 'yes' on 1157."

"The Journal will reflect your wishes. I'm going to be doing some moving of Bills from Second to Third Reading, and I'll be starting alphabetically. Representative Acevedo, on the Order of Second Reading, you 09700032.doc 221  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 have House Bill 2912. What's the status of that Bill, Mr. Clerk?"

"Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Beiser, you have House Bill 2860. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Dan Biss, you have House Bill 3343. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Biss on Floor Amendment #2."

"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Floor Amendment was discussed in committee. It narrows the scope of the Bill. It's… the Bill creates a new exempt category for the Freedom of Information Act, and it simply narrows that category from all participants in park district programs to nearly minors or other participants in programs that are targeted at minors to scale back the scope of the Bill."

Speaker Lyons: "You heard the Gentleman's discussion on Amendment #2. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all 09700032.doc 222  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 those in favor of its adoption signify by saying 'yes'; those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And Amendment #2 is adopted. Anything further, Mr. Clerk?"

"Third Reading. Representative Brown, you have House Bill 2048. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Out of the record. Take that Bill out of the record. Representative Cunningham, on the Order of House Bills-Second Reading, you have House Bill 1458. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Barbara Flynn Currie, you have House Bill 1518. I've got 1518 on the Order of Second Reading. You want to move the Bill? All right. Well, I got to wait to do that Barbara, all right? We'll get back to you. Take that Bill out of the record. Representative Monique Davis. Is Monique Davis on the floor? Representative Roger Eddy, on the Order of Second Reading, you have House Bill 192. Out of the record. Representative Norine Hammond, you have House Bill 2095. Representative Hammond, House Bill 2095. You want to move that Bill to Third Reading? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09700032.doc 223  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Third Reading. Representative Sara Feigenholtz, on the Order of Second Readings, you have House Bill 3207. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Brown, are you ready on House Bill 2048? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Robyn Gabel. Is Robyn on the floor? Representative Jehan Gordon, you have House Bill 3469. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Hold that Bill on the Order of Second Reading. Representative Tom Holbrook, on the Order of Second Reading, you have House Bill 3425. You wish to move that Bill to Third, Tom? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Lyons: "Third Reading. Representative Michael McAuliffe, you have House Bill 3319. Out of the record. Representative Morrison, you have House Bill 3539? It's on Second Reading. You want to move it to Third? Out of the record. Representative Nybo, you have House Bill 1552. Out of the record. Representative JoAnn Osmond, you have House Bill 3012. You wish to move that Bill to Third Reading? Out of the record. Representative Naomi Jakobsson, you have House Bill 3047, Representative. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Leader Lou Lang, you have House Bill 3107, Lou. Out of the record. Representative Michelle Mussman, House Bill 2891. You want to move that Bill to Third Reading, Representative? It's on Second Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, on House Bill 2891, repeat the status."

"Okay. Move that Bill back to the Order of Second Reading. Representative Elaine Nekritz, you do have 09700032.doc 225  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 House Bill 1091. Out of the record. Representative Chapin Rose, for what purpose do you seek recognition, Sir?"

Speaker Lyons: "The Journal will reflect your intentions, Representative. Representative Sandy Pihos. Is Sandy on the floor? Representative Sandy Pihos, you have House Bill 3464. Do you wish to move that Bill to Third, Representative? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Pihos on Floor Amendment #2."

"You've heard the Lady's explanation on the Floor Amendment #2. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor of its adoption signify by saying 'yes'; those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And Floor Amendment #2 is adopted. Anything further, Mr. Clerk?"

"Third Reading. Raymond Poe, you have House Bill 3332. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Randy Ramey. You moved on me, Representative, way in the back there. Now I see you, Representative, House Bill 3360. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Rosenthal, you have House Bill 3503. Out of the record. Representative Tim Schmitz, you have House Bill 3329. Second Reading. You want to move that Bill, Tim? 3329. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Schmitz, on Floor Amendment #1."

"You heard the Gentleman's explanation. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor of the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 signify by saying 'aye'; those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment's adopted. Anything further, Mr. Clerk?" 09700032.doc 227  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011

"Third Reading. Representative Darlene Senger, you have House Bill 1056. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Sosnowski, you have House Bill 1628. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Michael Tryon, you have House Bill 309. Mike Tryon, you want to move that Bill? Mr. Tryon. Out of the record. Representative Unes, you have House Bill 3611. Out of the record. Representative Harry Osterman. Is Harry on the floor? Representative Danny Reitz, you have House Bill 1380. Out of the record. Representative Bob Rita, you have House Bill 1889 on the Order of Second Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Rita."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Amendment #1 becomes the Bill. It just made 09700032.doc 228  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 a technical change to exempt Winnebago County. And I ask for its adoption."

"You've heard the Gentleman's explanation on Floor Amendment #1. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, the question is, 'Should Floor Amendment #1 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'yes'; those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And Amendment #1 is adopted. Anything further, Mr. Clerk?"

"Third Reading. Representative Andre Thapedi, you have House Bill 2853. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Arthur Turner, you have House Bill 414. Out of the record. Representative Currie, you have House Bill 1518 on the Order of Second Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Lyons: "Third Reading. The Chair recognizes Representative Currie on a Motion."

"Thank you, Speaker. I move to suspend the posting requirements so that House Resolutions 311… I'm sorry, 211, 217, 223 and 183 may be heard in committees."

"Seeing no objection, the question is, all those in favor of the adoption of the suspended posting signify 09700032.doc 229  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011 by saying 'yes'; those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Motion is passed… posting is suspended. Mr. Clerk, read the committee announcements for tomorrow morning. We don't… we don't have the list yet. We'll hold off on that request for committee announcements. Mr. Clerk, what's the status of House Bill 3238, 3238?"

"Move that Bill back to the Order of Second Reading on request of the Sponsor. Mr. Clerk, the Agreed Resolutions."

"Representative Currie moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All those in favor signify by saying 'yes'; those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm going to… we're going to have the Clerk announce the afternoon schedules. And we're waiting for a printed copy of the meetings… committee meetings scheduled for tomorrow morning. So, Mr. Clerk, on the p.m. schedules for this afternoon."

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the General Assembly. I just want to make you aware of something. I had put in a House Resolution for today. Today was going to be… well is, from here out, calling March 30th will be the Welcome Home Vietnam Veterans Day. And it… it's an honor to be able to put the Resolution in, but it did not get submitted in time, so we were unable to run it today. But I just want everybody to thank… especially, we have a few veterans here that served in Vietnam, and give them a special… a heart well thank you for what they've done."

"Thank you, Representative Chapa LaVia. Mr. Clerk, Rules Report."

"Mr. Clerk, I'll ask you at this time, now that we have the blue paper that's been circulated on the floor with the schedules, to please read the committee schedule for tomorrow morning, Thursday morning schedules. Mr. Clerk."

"And now, seeing no further business to come before the House, Representative Currie moves that the House stand adjourned to the hour of 10 a.m. on Thursday, March 31. For allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk, the House will stand adjourned. All those in favor signify by saying 'yes'; those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And until 10:00 tomorrow morning, the House stands adjourned." 09700032.doc 232  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 32nd Legislative Day 3/30/2011