Illinois House Floor Debate — May 28, 2011

"The House shall come to order. The Members shall be in their chairs. We ask the Members and our guests in the gallery to turn off laptop computers, cell phones, and pagers. And we ask our guests in the gallery to rise and join us for the invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance. We shall be led in pray today by the Reverend Jessie Knox who is with the Church of Good Shepherd Congregational United Church of Christ in Chicago. Reverend Knox is the guest of Representative Ken Dunkin."

"We shall be led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Representative Kelly Burke."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Representative Currie." 09700067.doc 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record show that Representative Yarbrough is excused today."

"Mr. Bost."

"The Clerk shall take the record. There being 112 Members responding to the Attendance Roll Call, there is a quorum present. Mr. Clerk."

"On page 5 of the Calendar, on the Order of Senate Bills Third Reading, there appears Senate Bill 122, Representative Carli."

"Representative Carli."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This is an Amendment to Senate Bill 122, which will provide us statistical information on three areas: admission, retention, and graduation. Senate Bill 122 will require public institution of higher education to track the status of those students who are the first in their family to attend an institution of higher education. The institutions then will submit an annual report to the General Assembly and Governor on… on the increasing participation of these first generation students. This will help to see if any improvements need to be made to 09700067.doc 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 further assist these students. I'd be happy to answer any questions, right after I put on my red sweater."

"The Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Pritchard."

"The Sponsor yields."

"No, I did not. I was given this Bill from Representative Ford."

"Yes."

"Actually, I jacked it from him…"

"…as he said."

"Yes. I… he says I jacked it from him, so I guess I did."

"It's a very good Bill."

"We are, but now this will make the institutions submit the data to this General Assembly and the Governor in order to help provide more programs and more assistance for these students." 09700067.doc 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"It's a good idea to focus on them in order to just make sure they are successful in their future and graduate, and for future generations to come."

"As of right now, but that's why we're implementing these programs to help assist them to actually graduate."

"They will be required to submit it to the General Assembly and the Governor annually."

"Well, it depends on what the analysis of the… the information that's given to the… the General Assembly, and then we'll make more arrangements after that. If counseling is needed, then that's what we'll do. But no other… they're already taking this information. They're just not required to submit it to the General Assembly."

"They are because they won't need to hire anymore personnel for it 'cause they're already collecting this data. They just need now to submit it." 09700067.doc 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Thank you very much."

"Mr. Eddy."

"The Sponsor yields."

"Yes."

"I'm sure he is, somewhere."

"Yes, he knows."

"Yes."

"No."

"Yes."

"No, I don’t think so, especially 'cause we're supposed to be getting… what is that? Fried chicken today and cookies."

"Yes."

"Right."

"No. It's nowhere in the Bill."

"I'm positive."

"The Bill makes higher education institutions submit their data to the General Assembly and the Governor, annually."

"Maybe they didn't read up on it as much as I did."

"I think it's a great Bill and it's the future…"

"…of our education."

"Yes."

"Well, thank you for your consideration."

"Mr. Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Thank you. Why did you roll your eyes at me, Representative?"

"I was prewarned about you."

"Some… some people think, not all, but some people think I'm a respected Member of this Body…"

"I think… I think you're a great Member."

"…and yet, you turned and rolled your eyes at me, along with your staff people that are standing with you. Would you like to… would you like to identify your staff people?" 09700067.doc 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"No, it's okay."

"That's okay. All right. So, Mr. Eddy asked you about a trailer Bill. What's a trailer Bill?"

"Second Bill that comes at a later time…"

"Oh."

"…which changes this Bill."

"So you got that from your trusty assistant there?"

"I did."

"Okay. All right, so, this Bill says, in Section 9.16… don't look at the Bill. You're not allowed to look at it, Representative. You're supposed to know your Bill. It says under representation of certain groups in higher education…"

"I have to put my thinking cap on."

"All right. Put your hat… nice hat."

"Okay. We can go on now."

"Thanks, Jack. That is one great hat."

"The red sweater, the blue hat, I am ready…"

"Yeah, yeah."

"…for Saturday. I'm ready."

"I haven't seen one of those in a long time. Maybe I can buy it back from you. So, under representation of certain groups. What are… who are these groups?"

"They're minorities, and first generation students."

"Minorities. So, you've got (a) black, (b) Hispanic…"

"Handicap."

"…(c) Asian, (d) American-Indian or Alaskan Native. Is that correct?"

"And handicap." 09700067.doc 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"And… I don't see that category, but I'll…"

"I believe it was the first one."

"…take your word for it. So, do we get a lot of Alaskan Natives that are involved in this program?"

"How many natives? I don't…"

"Well, you have Alaskan Native…"

"…know the numbers."

"…here. Isn't this a Bill for Illinois?"

"Yes, it is."

"Do they have a reciprocal agreement that Alaska… where Illinois natives can go up there and take advantage of their universities?"

"I would have to look into that, but students…"

"All right."

"…are welcome everywhere."

"All right. I'm… I don't… I don't really have too many more questions because I'm being thrown off by the hat, I must say."

"It's… I love it. I love… I don't know if you're going to get it back."

"Yeah. All right. So, one additional question. It says this of the… the underlined Section says admission, retention, and graduation statistics of all students or the first in their immediate family. How do they know who the first is?"

"I'm assuming it would be on the application."

"So, is it going to require all of our universities to change their application to determine… do they have a check 09700067.doc 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 box, are you the first person in your family to attend college?"

"I believe that's already there."

"You believe, or you know?"

"I believe. I'm not… I don't know for sure, but I could find out for you."

"All right. So, who would… but it… it would require the universities to reprint their application forms if it's not on there. Is that correct?"

"It would require some type of paperwork for them to fill out in order to…"

"And… and…"

"…go there."

"…what would the cost of this very important Bill be?"

"Very minimal."

"Did you give… did you make up that number yourself?"

"I did, with the…"

"So, with that… you do know you need to have specific answers on the House Floor. I'm wondering if you want to take the Bill out of the record and do three things: get rid of the hat…"

"No. I can't."

"…get a real jacket, and get an answer to my question."

"There's not a lot of funding that's going to take place in this 'cause they already do it. They just need to submit it. So, no other employees need to be… be…"

"Do you… do you have copies of the applications of our fine state universities to determine whether they're already doing this?" 09700067.doc 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"I do not."

"Well, then, you don't really know, do you?"

"I do not."

"So, you said you knew, but you really don't know. But I'm going to forgive you because of the hat. I think that's very, very interesting. No one else has ever worn a hat like that on the House Floor, and so I agree with Mr. Eddy. You're a great person, good Bill. I'm voting 'no'."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Ford."

"Thank you. Good morning, Mr. Speaker and will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"You know, I'm still new here, I would say, but I've waited for the day to ask the… the officer to yield. You're an officer, right?"

"I'm a Sergeant."

"Oh, okay. So, I even get to have a Sergeant yield. You know, I… I have a few questions. Is it a crime to jack someone for something?"

"Not when I do it to you."

"Oh. You know, I really like this Bill and you came right in and took the Bill right from me. I didn't know if you were packing at the time, but I was afraid to tell you no."

"And you don't know. I could be packing right now."

"Oh, that's the next question."

"So, be nice. Be nice. Be nice." 09700067.doc 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Well, you know, I just want to… throughout my years of driving, I have some questions, and I think this is the most appropriate time. I've been pulled over by the police for driving under the speed limit. Is that okay to pull a person over for driving under the speed limit?"

"Yes, it is."

"Why? I mean, because I don't drive fast. I drive below…"

"We have to make sure for your safety nothing's wrong with you. You could be medically something wrong with, we have to check on you."

"And I've been pulled over for stopping too far back from the stop sign. So, I did stop, but I stopped, you know, way back. Is that against the law too?"

"We can put a stop on you, yes."

"But I stopped."

"But you stopped. You didn't stop at the… at the sign."

"Oh, I have to stop at the line?"

"Yes."

"And the next question, is it illegal to take a half a block to my garage, so I could go down a one-way to get to my garage like…"

"Yes, it's illegal."

"I can't do a half a block?"

"No."

"Well, I… I just wanted to know because I know I'm going to be racing home and I might want to do a half a block to get to my garage."

"Just tell them you know me. I'm sure it'll be okay." 09700067.doc 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Okay. And so, what's the best way when I'm driving in the City of Chicago, what should I say, if by chance the police pulls me…"

"You know, there is a Rules of the Road book right out here in the lobby."

"No, I'm just… no…"

"I could probably get it for you if you'd like."

"I don't mean that. I'm just…"

"You have a lot of driving issues I'm…"

"No. Just in case, you know, I just want to know if the police pulls me over is there something I can say to sort of make them happy or something?"

"Nope. Just have all your credentials. You'll be fine."

"All the credentials. All right. Well, I just want to know… donuts. Someone said donuts."

"Oh. We're… we're upper class now. We have… we have muffins and bagels now. We've moved on from donuts."

"Well, I just want to tell you, as long as you…"

"And the trans fat. It's a big issue."

"Thank you. Well, I want to tell you, thank you very much for being one of the Chicago's finest…"

"Thank you."

"…and I look forward to passage of your Bill. Thank you."

"Thank you very much. Thank you."

"Mr. Winters."

"The Sponsor yields." 09700067.doc 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"I am."

"This is an old hat, so it doesn't count."

"It's from 2002. It doesn't count."

"Even though I love it, it doesn't count."

"The future…"

"It looks like a thumbs down."

"A hundred."

"Oh, I don't want the Century Club hat."

"I am not."

"No."

"Maybe at the Globe later, but not right now."

"No, I cannot."

"Mr. Mathias."

"The Sponsor yields."

"No."

"Yes. I believe so."

"I am."

"I… I do."

"Yes."

"Thank you so much."

"Mr. Fortner."

"The Sponsor yields." 09700067.doc 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Well, that would be up to you to determine if you needed counseling. If… if you need it, it's available."

"It's getting counseling or any other… any other assistance they need in order to graduate and become successful with their higher education."

"So, if you needed assistance, it would be there for you."

"I was also a first generation, and I didn’t have counseling. However, if they would’ve provided it to me, I would have taken it."

"'Cause we're just very fortunate. We were fortunate to get through it and become successful. However, some people need counseling or assistance. So, that's why we want to provide it for them."

"Well, there's counseling, but they want to focus on first generation… this Bill focuses on first generation, and that's what we're doing."

"Because they have someone to turn to and ask questions, and guide them. First generations don't have anybody to turn to and guide them."

"I did it on my own."

"But it was difficult. So, if I would have had the assistance, I would have taken it."

"I'm sure it is, and I'm sure if they requested assistance, they would also provide it for them." 09700067.doc 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"I'm sure universities are focusing on all their students, so they're all successful."

"The resources aren't being moved. The only difference with this Bill is that they're submitting that data to the General Assembly for first generations."

"Right. And then… then we will determine if other programs need to be set in place, or the university will determine that."

"We're… this is just the data."

"Yes."

"We're going to see what it's going to show us. That's why we're collecting it, to determine that." 09700067.doc 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"First generation."

"Yes."

"I hope that this data comes back and shows that they do need some assistance and we'll… we'll be able to provide it for them."

"Representative Carli to close."

"Thank you, Members, for listening to me, and I'd ask you to vote 'yes'."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 102 people voting 'yes', 11 people voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 395, Representative May. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 09700067.doc 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Representative May."

"Thank you, Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Although I'm the Chief Sponsor of the Bill, there have been many other Amendments by other Members, who will explain those. The underlying Bill is simply the extension of a special compromise that was made for public/private partnerships. The… the history is that when Army bases, Navy bases, when… when their personnel live in a district, they don't pay property taxes. So, as they redeveloped the Navy base in Fort Sheridan, and in Glen View, they came to a compromise to give… have the public/private partnership pay a small amount of what it cost to educate the children. It was passed in 2006 with sunset. This just lifts the sunset because it's working well for all parties involved. So, that's the underlying Bill, and I believe Representative Zalewski has added a lot of Amendments, and Representative Berrios. I think they're wrapped into one for Representative Zalewski."

"Mr. Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the rest of the Bill. The Bill does several things. It allows for the stipulated agreements during the Property Tax Appeal Board's process. It clarifies which properties are exempt under the Code, if there is a lease agreement between two governmental entities, and it does several things with certain respect to homeowner's exemptions. Most specifically, it allows for a process by which a county assessment officer can 09700067.doc 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 examine erroneous exem… exemption, homestead exemptions. If there is one erroneous exemption, the assessor can go forth and try to recoup those… those moneys. If there's two or multiple, a different structure is set in place. The take away is that the assessor can ask for these lost monies, put forth a lien, and the homeowner can have a rebuttable presumption and go before the assess… assessment officer and try to exercise their due process rights if they feel that this was an error. I respectfully ask for an 'aye' vote. I'm happy to take questions on the portion that I just described."

"Mr. Eddy."

"Mr. Zalewski."

"That… that's correct."

"Did you say penalty?"

"Well, what… what we're doing in this Bill, Representative, is we're saying that if they were deriving the benefits of the homeowner's exemption, and the assessment officer determines that was erroneous, they will 09700067.doc 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 be liable for the taxes, the interest… or the tax… the taxes… as long as they've been paying their property taxes as they've been… as… as the years have progressed."

"How many… how many exact… how many erroneous exemptions have… are they responsible for is the… is the… I would need to know that before I could properly answer your question."

"Sure."

"Mr. Speak…"

"Mr… To your… to your question, Representative. There is… we've heard testimony in committee that there… this process is, in certain instances, exposed to fraudulent actors. I think the intent of the Bill is to set forth a procedure by which the assessor can go and recoup the moneys that were given to the homeowner if they were not properly entitled to the benefit of the exemption."

"How many… how many properties have they… are we talking about one additional property?"

"So, under the scenario you just described, Representative, they would be responsible for the taxes, plus five percent interest for the years upon which they derived the benefit of that one erroneous homeowner's exemption."

"Sure."

"Well, there… there's a couple of things to remember about the… about the Bill, Representative. The assessment officer is the one that makes the determination. It's permissively allowed for them to go back and… and enter the lien and… and seek reparation for the back taxes. And then, there's specifically a procedure set forth in the Bill which allows that homeowner to rebut what the assessment officer has said, and bring forth evidence to mitigate or… or reduce, or remove the penalty in… in tax."

"That's correct."

"Correct."

"Sure."

"No."

"Mr. David Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank… thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have question of the Sponsor."

"The Sponsor yields." Harris, D.: "Representative, may I ask, on your analysis of this Bill what does it show your committee vote as?"

"I… well, just… technically, to be accurate, House Floor Amendment #7 was the Bill that we are currently 09700067.doc 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 incorporating into the Bill. House Amendment #5 was recommended be adopted, however, pursuant to the conversation you and I had yesterday, we… we had to make some technical changes and go with House Amendment #7." Harris, D.: "Okay. Thank you."

"So, I… the Revenue vote of House Amendment #5, I believe it was 6 to 3…" Harris, D.: "All right. Thank…"

"…I believe." Harris, D.: "Thank you for refreshing my memory. I know what we put on, basically, a technical Amendment with the changes we made in… in Amendment #7. Does Amendment #7 remove the opposition of the Illinois Realtors Association?"

"No, not entirely." Harris, D.: "So… so, there still is a… there still is a concern about the standard of fraud measure here that…"

"So…" Harris, D.: "… that is used in this Bill?"

"I'd be happy to address that, Representative. The realtors have made what I consider to be a very strong argument that what we need to do in the future is reevaluate how we're going to have homeowners affirm that they understand what exemptions they're receiving. They put forth a number of ideas to both myself, Leader Currie, and… and staff. I don't know that we were ever going to reach a meeting of the minds in the limited time we have left, but I have certainly agreed we'll work with them over the course of the summer and come forth, along with the… 09700067.doc 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 the Taxpayers United of Illinois… Federation of Illinois… I can't… I get my federations and my associations confused… to… to bring forth some… some potentially technical… or… or changes to the Bill in the fall." Harris, D.: "Thank you for your answer, and there is a concern by the realtors on the standard of fraud. They are still opposed to the Bill. I think that… that the problem you are trying to address is a real genuine problem. I don’t necessarily sense the urgency that we have to do this right before now, before we adjourn in the last couple of days, and we can… we can work on the problem, but the concern about that standard fraud is still there. But thank you for your answers."

"Thank you, Rep."

"Mr. Sullivan."

"Mr. Rose."

"The Sponsor yields."

"I'm not sure I understand your question, Representative. Your question is whether a… a person who's erroneously claiming the exemptions could use a constructive trust to…"

"I… what… what…"

"Yeah." 09700067.doc 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Representative… Representative, at the beginning of this process, we… we talked a lot about that… that particular issue of what… what was already in… in place and what we're finding, studying this issue, is to go through… and what… to do what you're suggesting, we would have to require the state's attorney's intervention…"

"…is my understanding. That would be very… state… as you well know, as a former and state, that… they're… dealing with law and order, and crime issues, other issues like that, they just simply are not cracking down on this particular issue as well as we would…"

"…hope."

"The… in our Bill, it would be the… the Cook… the assessment officer."

"I… not… not in the Bill. No, Sir."

"Representative… Representative Mulligan." 09700067.doc 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"It has an immediate effective date, Representative."

"Rep… Representative, you…"

"Representative…"

"You haven't heard me say the Bill's flawed, Representative. You heard me say that the realtors oppose it because they would like us to work on a way in which owners can know that… what exemptions they're… they're taking. So, I haven't once said the Bill's flawed. It's a good Bill that'll crack down on those who choose to abuse the property tax process."

"This is an Amendment on a Senate Bill that we would send back over for concurrence."

"Yes."

"Well, Representative, I stand ready to answer the many questions you have, and I would also say that the… the only way to tax taxpayers is by reducing their… their burden that, as your colleague on the other side of the aisle, just attested to. I urge an 'aye' vote if you wish to crack down on tax scofflaws."

"Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. I concur with the last statement. This is a Bill about going after, not taxpayers, but tax cheats. This is a Bill about going after people who are fraudulently getting homestead exemptions to which they are 09700067.doc 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 not entitled. And the point was earlier made and it cannot be underscored enough, that when other people are cheating on their property taxes, the rest of us are picking up the slack. So, there is not a free lunch out of there… out of here. If you… if you want to go after the bad apples, you are helping the taxpayers who are doing an honest, proper response to their taxing requirements. So, this is really about the bad apples, the bad actors, and I think everybody in this chamber ought to be voting a good, strong 'yes'."

"Representative Dugan."

"Thank you, Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, I just want to check, I'm just looking at the analysis, and I just want to make sure I understand it. So, as I look at Amendment #6, which I'm not sure… we're on #7. Okay. So, originally in the analysis, it said something about a change that was requested by the Cook County Assessor, but when I look at #7 it says it would allow county assessors outside of Cook County. So, can Cook County do this now and this is just going to allow ones outside of Cook County?"

"I'll… I'll answer your question. I'll answer your question as best I can, Representative. We… in House Amendment #7, we've taken out the downstate assessor's ability to go back on C of Es for more than three years and… and we've… we're going to work… the downstate assessors don't want that to be in the Bill at this time. With respect to your que… what was your other half of your question?" 09700067.doc 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Okay. So, I guess that was my question, 'cause when I'm reading my analysis, it says that House Amendment #7 allows County Assessors outside of Cook County to grant certificates…"

"No, we took that out. We took that… we took that out, Representative, in 7."

"Okay, but it's in our analysis, Amendment #7."

"Our analysis says House Amendment #5, a change was made to allow assessors outside of Cook County to grant Certificates of Error. House Amendment #7 removed that language."

"Okay. Then I just wanted to clarify that. Thank you."

"Mr. Reis."

"Mr. Eddy."

"I'm… I'll get an answer for you on… on the appeal, Representative. What… what the scenario we would envision happening under this Bill… is they would get noticed that we've… we've discovered you have one, or two, or three homeowner's exemptions that you weren't entitled to. Come forth to us, to the Board of Review, outside of Cook, and say to us, what happened here."

"Was it a clerical mistake that you simply… the… the clerk at the courthouse told you that… to check off the box. Was it an… an inheritance that you didn't simply know that the…"

"…the title had come down, or… or do you not have a good reason? Or… or let us find… find… or the Board of Review determine the good reason."

"I…"

"Could I…"

"That's my understanding."

"They would have another level of redress, Representative."

"It's a very good question, Representative. I would point you to House Amendment #5 where we work with the downstate assessors to accommodate that request, let them go back three years to issue C of Es. Beyond three years, our feeling was it would get sort of tedious and cumbersome. But we set three years to issue C of Es. We also made it permissive for those assessment officers to decide whether or not this was a course they wish to undertake. However, at the urging of the assessment officers… at the urging of the Downstate Assessment Officers Association, they said, you know what, we're not entirely comfortable with the idea of doing that at this time. We want our association to think about it over the summer. That's why it was removed from House Amendment #5." 09700067.doc 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"My… my feeling was that it…"

"…it would have been good policy, but we… we were asked to remove it and let them commiserate about it over the summer."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Mr. Zalewski to close."

"I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 99 people voting 'yes', 11 people voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1040, Representative Mussman. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Mussman." 09700067.doc 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Senate Bill 1040 is a proposal that is supported by the Illinois State Police, the Attorney General's Office, the Illinois Criminal Justice Information Authority, the Illinois Sheriffs' Association, the Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police, and Crime Stoppers. As amended, this Bill will take a significant step forward in bringing Illinois into greater compliance with the federal Adam Walsh Act. This proposal does several things, so I want to highlight a few of them. It expands the definition of sex offender to include those are convicted of conspiracy to commit a sex offense. It adds luring a minor for a second or subsequent conviction and unauthorized video recording of minors to the list of crimes that warrant registration. It adds several reportable items to the registry, such as temporary domiciles, day labor, vehicle registration numbers and aliases. It mandates a three-tier registration system, which changes us from 10 years and life, to currently… to… to become a 15 year, 25 year, and lifetime registration, depending on the offense. It changes the frequency with which offenders must report to law enforcement to every 90 days for lifetime registrants, annually for 15 year registrants, and 6 months for 25-year registrants. It places offenses such as kidnapping and child abduction on the sex offense registry as required by the Adam Walsh Act, and it triggers a lifetime registration for offenders convicted of failing to register properly. These changes are mandated by the Federal Government. Failure to adopt these changes will result in the… our federal Byrne Jag 09700067.doc 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 Funding, which is used throughout the state to… to support law enforcement programs. This legislation passed through the Senate and needs to go back for concurrence. I am happy to answer any questions."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"Representative, do we have any idea of what the cost impact of this is for the state?"

"The cost will actually be minimal. We are very far along, much farther along than the majority of other states throughout the nation. So, therefore, it… it's not going to cost us much to come into compliance, all of the fiscal notes have indicated such."

"Well, that was not the fiscal note that I saw. The fiscal note I saw said that there was no way to… to calculate because we didn't know how many… how… what… what the universe of folks was that we were going to be adding to the registry, which doesn't mean… seem to me to say that… that it's minimal. It's we can't… we… we can't possibly know. And I'm troubled by that because it seems to me that we, you know, this is yet another in the… the lengthy series of… of Bills that we have to… to further penalize, you know, those… those on the sex offender registry, and we piled costs on, we piled costs on. We've made it impossible for them to live anywhere. We made it impossible for them to work anywhere. We made it impossible for them to go anywhere. And so, all we're doing is forcing them into noncompliance. And so… so, I… I 09700067.doc 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 would hope that we would be able to take a step back on this and analyze what we're doing in the… not only in this legislation but in legislation generally with… with regard to this issue, and see if there's a way we can rationalize our policies, make sure we're protecting the public, make sure we're spending our… our tax dollars well and achieving a goal of… of knowing where the sex offenders are, keeping track of them, but not overburdening the system."

"I…"

"I urge… would…"

"I absolutely appreciate your concern. I feel that some of those registration requirements that have to do with loitering or… or home location are not addressed in this Bill. Again, the items addressed in this Bill are federal mandates, and if we don't come into compliance with these, we will start losing significant portions of the money that comes allocated to our state. We, as a state, actually receive a larger amount of funding than many other states. We will lose 10 percent a year until we come into compliance. So, while those are concerns, if… if we're looking at it from a financial standpoint, we stand to lose a significant amount of money every year that we're not doing this."

"Representative, are there… are there other states that have analyzed this and made a decision to… to not come into compliance because of it?"

"There are states that have said they may choose not to come into compliance, but the actual compliance date has not passed yet. So, until that happens, we won't know for 09700067.doc 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 certain which states are specifically falling out of compliance. Again, many states have much farther to go in order to enact these registration policies, so it will take them more time and more expense, as compared to what they would potentially be gaining under the Byrne Grant Fund. And again, we receive more money than many other states to begin with, so we're not entirely comparing apples to apples at that point."

"Well, I understand… I can understand that, but I still believe we need to take a step back, really fully analyze what it is that we're… that we're doing here, what the cost impact is going to be to the state, and then make a decision if we have time… since we have time to… to determine whether or not we want to move ahead with something like this. I would ask for your 'no' vote 'til we can… 'til we can study this a little bit further and make sure that we're… that we're doing the best by the citizens of the State of Illinois."

"Mr. Lang in the Chair."

"Mr. Pritchard."

"The Sponsor yields."

"It is… there… there has not been a specific study to that per se. It's true that the majority of the expense 09700067.doc 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 would fall upon local government, because they will… they will have to deal with increased registration, so they may have to hire on additional staff, but you're looking at a loss of funding. They've already lost 17 percent of their funding through cuts throughout the state this year because of our budgetary crisis. For them to lose another 10 percent every single year is a significant loss of money that they use to support numerous other programs, not only the sex offender registration."

"The police chiefs and the sheriff's department already are aware of this concern and… and they are willing to comply with it. They certainly understand that it's a burden, but they also feel that it's very important for them. They find this very, very useful information when it comes time to… to find these individuals. They're willing to accept that, as I've been told."

"If you are currently a juvenile registering, it… it does, because in the State of Illinois, we do count Romeo and Juliet offenders. And we have not taken any steps to 09700067.doc 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 change that. There was a Bill on the floor earlier in this year to make those changes, and there was a very distinct 'no' vote. We have… we have not taken steps to change that."

"That don’t have… it…"

"If you need to register, then you will continue needing to register."

"The juveniles do have an option to remove themselves."

"This does not exempt them."

"The Adam Walsh Act does make Romeo and Juliet an option but currently, under Illinois law, we do not accept Romeo and Juliet…"

"…and we did not change that. So, that is not part of this."

"That is not part of this Bill because we already attempted to change it individually and it was not the will of this Body to make that happen."

"You have 3 days to report instead of the present condition of 10 days. And…"

"…that's after your release."

"I think they felt that it was too generous and… and it was too easy to lose track of the individuals as they moved about, once they've been released from the system. That was their request."

"I… I understand that it's onerous, that this is… this… these are the requirements…"

"…that we've been given."

"Yep. It's important that these individuals can be found should it become necessary. It is… for them to go off the grid is a very serious issue."

"Representative Cassidy."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Lady yields."

"The funds that are at risk under this, if we don’t come into compliance, I heard you in response to the other questions about the amounts that are at risk. Do you know the sorts of programming that is funded with these moneys?"

"It… it goes all throughout the Juvenile Justice System, the Criminal Justice System. It's for drug task forces, prosecutors, courts, probation, corrections, technical of programs… tech programs, victims' services. It is a wide variety of programs throughout the state that would be impacted, not only sexual offenses."

"Thank you. To the Bill. I have spent the last 10 years administering those very funds on behalf of the Cook County State's Attorneys Office. These moneys are critically important to the… to the successful implementation of the Criminal Justice System here in… in the State of Illinois. We fund domestic violence programs, we fund Drug… drug enforcement and drug alternative treatment programs with these funds. And I would argue that these funds could be used, the… the various law enforcement agencies could make application to the Criminal Justice Authority to utilize these funds in order to come into compliance and find the sex offenders that have gone off the grid, who are a risk to our… our children. So, I urge a 'yes' vote. Thank you."

"Representative Gabel."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor will yield?" 09700067.doc 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"The Sponsor yields."

"There are many, many organizations who are opposed to this Bill, among them: the Loyola Civitas ChildLaw Center, the Juvenile Justice Initiative, the ACLU, Illinois Voices for Reform. Could you explain to me why there are so many opponents to this Bill?"

"There's concern about the state requiring registration in general, and… and we are not going to be able to change that specifically. There seems to be misinformation with the Juvenile Justice League under some of their concerns. They have concerns that juveniles would no longer be able to petition to be removed from the list, which is not true, they can still maintain being able to be removed from the list. Again, there were concerns about the Romeo and Juliet laws, but we see that… that that is not something that our state has been willing to change at this moment in time, therefore, it does become part of this Bill. But otherwise, registration is… is a part of our system and it's been a part of our system since 1999. And again, we… we need to maintain registration in order to maintain our funding. It is not something we're going to be dissolving anytime soon."

"Well, it… it just seems to me that with so many opponents to this Bill, and great organizations who are concerned about our children, that this Bill just may not be quite ready yet to… to pass. Thank you."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"The Sponsor yields." 09700067.doc 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"It has to do with whether or not it's a felony offense or not."

"Yes."

"Absolutely."

"Representative Mulligan."

"The Lady yields."

"Very few of them came forward. I did speak with some individuals from the Juvenile Justice League and we did talk about a number of their concerns, but… but many of them we cannot change because of the failure to come into compliance at that point."

"Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Yes."

"Representative, yes… a few days ago I was on the House Floor and I was concerned because of the audit from the Sex Offender Management Board Compliance Examination. Have you had a chance to go through that or possibly speak with members of that board?"

"I was able to speak with one member of the board, and they actually… they didn't have a specific statement as to why they did not use the money. We do have… we would like to sit down and speak with the Senator who is running the Bill and… and talk about whether or not those funds, that are not currently being utilized, could be utilized for perhaps examining risk assessments, especially at a 09700067.doc 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 juvenile level. That is certainly something that they would like to examine further, and that is a great concern of the Juvenile Justice League. So, we think that there are opportunities to increase what's going on with that particular department. And actually, and… and I'm sorry, I don’t have the e-mail in front of me, she did indicate a number of things that that… that that department does do and accomplish, that… that committee."

"Was that Cara Smith? Is that who had contacted you?"

"No. Actually, I was speaking with Tracie Newton."

"Okay. 'Cause I received some calls yesterday. But for the Body's edification, I'm concerned because we passed these… this types of legislation and I know the intention of the Body is to create tough laws to protect those that are most vulnerable, but I'd like to remind the Body what the recent audit showed. On the Sex Offender Management Board Compliance Examination for the two years ended June 30, 2010, it indicated that the board has not developed tracking and monitoring systems for sex offenders, nor has it established a formal plan with specific timelines to develop those systems. It showed that the board did not develop and prescribe a system for tracking sex offenders who have been subjected to evaluation, identification, and treatment under the Act. The board has not developed assisting… a system for monitoring offender behaviors and offender adherence to prescribe behavioral changes. Now, it also stated that the board has been given $500 thousand for the last three years, but has expended less than $25 thousand for each of the last three fiscal years. I'm not 09700067.doc 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 sure what they're doing. It also indicated that there was sporadic board meeting attendance and that there are seven vacancies on the board in the last few years, and the Governor has failed to appoint to… to reappoint… to appoint anyone to these vacancies. So, I just want to make sure that should this Bill pass, that there's also accountability to those who are held to… to do these laws. So, I want to make sure that once this Bill pass that we follow up to make sure that the implementation is being carried out. And I just want to make… I want to bring this out publically again because I think that's the way to keep pressure to make sure things are being done correctly."

"In… in 2…"

"Representative Senger."

"Mr. Kay."

"The Sponsor yields." 09700067.doc 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"I just met him recently."

"Yes."

"Absolutely."

"No."

"Thank you."

"Representative Williams."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Lady yields."

"Representative, I'm just reading in the analysis a component of the Bill which says that certain offenses are transferred, and the requirement they are sexual motivated 09700067.doc 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 is removed. Could you explain why we would put crimes that don't have a sexually component on the sex offender registry?"

"That has to do with the Adam Walsh Act. That… that is direct from the federal guidelines that they specifically wanted those items put on that list."

"Okay. And why then is that… I mean, why then would we put it on the sex offender registry if it doesn't have a sexually motivated component? I'm just confused on, what about the Adam Walsh… the federal requirements that'll require that? 'Cause it does seem inconsistent. I mean, it is called a Sex Offender Registration Act, so it's a little misleading to have someone on the Sex Offender Registration Act if they weren't guilty of a sex offense."

"Absolutely. And my understanding now is that the Adam Walsh Act is not solely concerned about sexual offenses. It is… it is concerned with child safety and protection. So, those are offenses like kidnapping and forced control. That falls under that purview, not only sex offense."

"One item that one of my colleagues brought up is a situation where, we hear about this from time to time, a parent may take their child… leave with their child. It may rise to the level of a kidnapping or abduction because they feel the other parent may be sexually abusing the child. That could result in a kidnapping charge, but they might end up being labeled as a sex offender, which could hamper their ability down the road. It just seems that if it's not a sex offense, I don't understand why we would put it 09700067.doc 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 on the Sex Offender Registry. Doesn't mean it may not be an extremely onerous crime, but it does seem like maybe we need to think about changing the name of the Sex Offender Registry Act 'cause people do look for offenders that have sexually motivated crimes on that list, and it's a little, I think, misleading and a bit confusing. But thank you for answering the question."

"Representative Mussman to close."

"I just want to address, very quickly, the concerns that Representative Franks brought up with the Sex Offender Management Board. There is currently a Bill out there to do revisions. As soon as he notified me of that concern, I immediately contacted someone on the board, and we are going to start looking into that situation right away. Another concern with the Juvenile Justice Department was, again, that the idea that juveniles could get themselves removed from the registry is an underutilized tool, and we are already going to be talking with them about how we can increase the participation in that program. But otherwise, again, this is… this is material that needs to happen under the guidelines of the Federal Government. There are financial consequences to not participating, and in our current state of affairs, that is a very serious issue for the state. We also know that it is very, very important for our law enforcement, for our families, to be kept as safe as possible and this is one tool in our arsenal. And I would very much appreciate your support."

"Those in favor of the Bill shall vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who 09700067.doc 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Record yourselves, Members. Please take the record. On this question, there are 91 voting 'yes', 21 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1235, Representative Golar. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Golar."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Senate Bill 1235, basically, is a clean up Bill. It is an initiative of DHS, and this particular Bill came forth because the Bill itself, after an audit… after an audit was done with DHS, they found that the moneys, which were coming out of Head Start and a matching grant the only thing that they were doing in this Bill was actually working with immigrant workers. And the Bill stated that they were making grants to local government agencies, volunteer agencies, and non-for-profit associations that provide day care services. And so, after looking at this and the audit, this Bill is absolutely necessary to take that language out and state that these moneys for Head Start, with a matching federal grant, is only for migrant workers for help for childcare services. I would be happy to take any questions at this time."

"The Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Stephens."

"The Lady yields." 09700067.doc 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"A migrant worker is a immigrant worker."

"That is what is used, Representative."

"I wouldn't say that. Those… are you saying that?"

"Okay. That's a question that I can't answer because that, to me, is not a migrant worker."

"Migrant workers… Representative, migrant workers to me are people that move from place to place, and they need the necessary services that this Bill will provide."

"It could be that person is going from California to Alabama, or Alabama to California at onetime. We're talking about people that are constantly on the move and they need the necessary help on this."

"No, we aren't."

"You're welcome." 09700067.doc 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Those in favor of the Bill shall vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members record yourselves. Mr. Winters. Mr. Winters. Please take the record. On this question, there are 67 voting 'yes', 45 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1292, Representative Lilly. Please read the Bill."

"Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. Senate Bill 1306, Mr. Mautino. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Mautino."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1306 is the culmination of about three years worth of negotiations and it establishes the Collateral Recovery Act. It sets up licensing and requirements for those who are in the repossession business. It's been negotiated with the Attorney General, the Illinois Commerce Commission. ICC that regulates, currently, the towing industry and… and relocators. Along with the… with those… with those folks, the rest of the opposition to the Bill has been removed and it's agreed in its current form. The two Amendments we added made it… took out any objections. And I'd appreciate a 'yes' vote. I would also be happy to answer any questions regarding the issue." 09700067.doc 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? It's Saturday, Members. Record yourselves. Brady, Davis, Dugan, Reis, Unes, record yourselves, Members. Mr. Unes. Please take the record. On this question, there are 104 voting 'yes', 9 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Returning to Senate Bill 1292, Representative Lilly. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Lilly."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I rise to present Senate Bill 1292. Senate Bill 1292 is an initiative of the Department of Juvenile Justice, and the Department of Children and Family Services to allow the juvenile cour… courts that proceed over the minor delinquency hearings to have continued jurisdiction to conduct permanency hearing to determine whether reasonable efforts are being made to place the juveniles. This is also a 50 percent federal match for the State of Illinois. I ask for your support, and thank you, and are there any questions."

"The Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor of the Bill shall vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Monique Davis. Please take the record. On this question, 09700067.doc 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 113 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1544, Mr. Mautino. Mr. Mautino on 1544. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Mautino."

"Thank you, Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1544 increases the caps. This is done by agreement on the rates and fees paid by insurance companies for… for filing an insurance policy with the Department of Insurance. The original Bill was at $1000; this raises it to 1500, and the companies would be raised from $2000 to 2500 for advisory rating organizations. And that's basically what the Bill does. It is agreed."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Representative Osmond."

"The Gentleman yields."

"No."

"Yes."

"Those… Representative Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just have one question."

"The Gentleman yields." 09700067.doc 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 Davis, M.: "Why is the… why is the Department of Insurance still opposed?"

"My understanding is they are not." Davis, M.: "They told you they were no longer opposed?"

"Right. They were… they were neutral. That was from their liaison as well. With the… with them going from…" Davis, M.: "With the last Amendment."

"…a $1000 to 1500…" Davis, M.: "…is that right?"

"Correct." Davis, M.: "Okay. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Carli. Please take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Continuing on the order of Mautino is Senate Bill 1555. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Mautino."

"Thank you, Speaker. Senate Bill 1555, as amended, does two things: one) it… it structures the health insurance exchange a study commission. Basically, a commission very similar to COGFA will be set up, and it will convene throughout the summer to look at items from the size of the… the policies and the groups that are 09700067.doc 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 covered, to how we will set up an exchange, which is required by the Federal Government, as we move towards implementing the… the health insurance exchange portion of the federal health care. Additionally, the Bill addresses health savings accounts and says that they will be available to the employees of the State of Illinois as a choice within their option. Currently, they can choose between fully funded, self-funded plans, HMO, managed care… or excuse me, PPO plans, and this would also allow the option for health savings accounts. Prepared to answer questions. I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The Gentleman moves for passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Representative Osmond."

"The Gentleman yields."

"No, it does not. It's… does what we need to… each state has to put in place a plan for the exchanges that will be set up where people who are looking for coverages, small businesses, can go and try and find coverage. The ground rules for it have to be set up, and this is our manner of studying it and then putting into place. In September, we'll come back with reports that says this is our opinion of how the exchange should be structured."

"Correct." 09700067.doc 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Correct."

"And there's language specifically regarding that in the Bill."

"Representative Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Mr. Mautino…"

"Yes."

"…will yield." Davis, M.: "Thank you. Representative, Citizens Action Committee, they had some opposition. Did you address their concerns?"

"The… the Bill has changed. There are still some those who prefer a different method, which was involved in the Koehler Bill. That has not been called for a vote, but it's… this basically meets all the federal requirements. They would have liked to have seen more, or a faster acceleration of the federal health care." Davis, M.: "Okay. I do know that they weren't there when you placed the last Amendment on the Bill… when you put the Amendment on the Bill. They weren't there, so…"

"They… but they were represented in… in testimony and by witness slip. I believe Brian gave their testimony." 09700067.doc 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, urge an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

Speaker Lang: "Representative Dugan. The Lady passes. Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

"The Gentleman yields."

"Representative, I need some clarification. Is it required under the Affordable Care Act that we set up in… insurance exchange?"

"No. If we… no, it is not required. If we do not set rules and governance in place, then they will come in an they will do it themselves."

"So, either we do it, or they will do it, but either way it go, there must be a way in which everyone will have access to purchase insurance."

"Absolutely. And that is the one point of all things that all parties have agreed on that it would be best if we charted our own destiny in this, as opposed to allowing the Federal Government to come in and say this is what you will do."

"So, in essence, it's in our best interest to do this legislation?"

"Yes. This… this put it…"

"So, we don't…"

"Go right ahead."

"Okay. I'm sorry. Thank you."

"Mr. Mautino to close."

"Thank you very much. I urge… urge an 'aye' vote." 09700067.doc 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Record yourselves, Members. Jakobsson, Rita. Please take the record. On this question, 111 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1557, Representative Golar. Please read the Bill."

Speaker Lang: "Out of the record. Senate Bill 1631, Representative Cassidy. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Cassidy."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This is the Bill that we amended yesterday addressing some technical changes relative to allowing for more flexibility to the Administrative Office of the Illinois Courts to permit the use of probation fees for salaries. In addition, it establishes a $10 court fee for probation operations in cases where the Circuit Court clerk also adds a court automation fee. The fee's not assessed in cases where an appearance is not required and the bail amount is $120 or less. This was introduced at the request of the Illinois Probation and Court Services Association, and I'm honored to present their request to you today. The statute governing probation requires us, the General Assembly, to reimburse counties for probation salaries subject to 09700067.doc 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 standards and procedures approved by the AOIC. That required reimbursement level is $95 million. Anytime we fail to appropriate 75 million to the counties, they may use fees to make up part of the shortfall. In each of the last two years, the… the last General Assembly has cut probation funding to dangerously low levels, to 35 million each year. Yet, in the last four years, there have been significantly increased program costs for counties and probation departments for new legislative and criminal justice initiatives. These increases include adding 17- year-old misdemeanants to the Juvenile Court and Juvenile Detention Centers, creating the Cindy Bischof Act, requiring a larger investment in GPS, and electronic monitoring of violators of domestic orders of protection, mandating drug courts in every circuit while also cutting substance abuse treatment funds, numerous changes to the sex offender monitoring statute, and adding… adding an all new Violent Offenders Registry. I would appreciate an 'aye' vote and would be honored to answer any and all questions you may entertain."

"The Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Eddy."

"The Lady yields."

"If you could repeat the… the fee level you just discussed."

"Excuse me, Mr. Eddy. Could we hold the noise down in the chamber, please, so we could get some work done today, Ladies and Gentlemen. Please, hold the voices down. Mr. Eddy."

"But I did hear you state a fee level and I wasn't… the bail… a bail level and I was… didn't hear the number of what it was."

"Right."

"In cases where the bail amount is $120 or less, this fee is not added?"

"Okay. And the fee is supposed to go into a fund. Now, does this Probation Court Services Fund exist now?"

"Yes, it does."

"Under this… right now it is for various probation services. Depending on the level of funding the General Assembly provides for probation services…"

"…this may be… the AOIC may allow the funds to be used for salaries, when we do not sufficiently fund as we are… are mandated to do, when we do not provide the appropriate level of funding the A… AOIC may allow counties to use these funds for probation services."

"It… it is otherwise just for general operating costs."

"Salaries have to be permitted, specifically."

"The A… AOIC, the Administrative Office of the Illinois Courts, is the body that decides whether or not the funds can be used for salaries."

"I don't believe so, but I'm not… and I'm not a hundred percent certain."

"I don't believe so, Representative."

"It… it applies in cases where an appearance is not required, and it is greater than 120."

"It's not assessed when an appearance is not required. I apologize."

"It is not assessed when an appearance is not required, or it's 120 or less. So, it is both… both an appearance and above 120."

"Correct."

"I don't believe that's necessary. These funds have existed. This is a technical change to this, and they have not been swept. I believe they are protected."

"This does not create the fund. These funds have existed, and you're correct under what you're pointing out, it is… it is locally controlled."

"Under Section 15.1…"

"…which this does not create." 09700067.doc 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"That was already created."

"Yes."

"Exactly."

"Yes."

"It… it cannot be swept. No, Sir."

"Mr. Mautino."

"Thank you. I simply commend the Lady for her work on this Bill, and in answer to some of the questions that Representative Eddy had, no, the fund is there. It can be… the $10 can be imposed in those areas that currently impose it for the court aut… automation fee and, basically, it allows it to be used for the… for probation services which have been massively cut in the past few years. And I'd urge an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill shall vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members, please record yourselves. Brauer, Crespo, McAuliffe, Mitchell, Poe, Saviano. Please record yourselves, Members. Mr. Mitchell. Mr. Poe. Mr. Mitchell. Please take the record. On this question, there are 75 voting 'yes', 38 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having 09700067.doc 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Continuing on the order of Kelly Cassidy, Senate Bill 1701. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Cassidy."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I want to thank Representative Howard, who's carried this Bill for several years. I also want to thank Ann Williams, and Senators Millner and Silverstein who led this Bill to a unanimous vote in the Senate. The Emergency Medical Services Access Act provides protection in… in the cases. Accidental drug overdoses are too high in every area of the state, and among people of every race and ethnicity. Too often friends and family are present when someone overdoses, but they're afraid to call 911 to save a life because they fear of being arrested for drug possession. In almost every case, the life of someone who overdoses can be saved with fast, medical assistance, but too many people are dumped in alleys or left alone to die when they overdose. Today, we in the General Assembly have a decision to make. A law in the books in Illinois causes fear and leads to needless, senseless deaths. It's time we change that law to encourage people to protect each other's lives and stay alive. I want to stress that law enforcement is neutral on this Bill. They're neutral because we've had… we have worked very hard to address 09700067.doc 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 their concerns. The Bill will not interfere with their ability to put drug dealers behind bars, but it will help them to do one of their most important jobs, keeps citizens alive. In fact, the M… EMS Access Act will help the police do their jobs better. The person who overdosed will still be alive. Police can ask where he or she obtained their drugs, and follow up on that lead. You cannot get that information from a corpse. The State Police, Association of Chiefs of Police, and the Sheriffs' Association are all neutral. The Illinois State's Attorneys Association is neutral. We've made significant changes in the Bill from last year to address law enforcement's concerns. The amount of drug an individual can posses and be protected from a arrest or prosecution has been… re… reduced by 80 percent. For example, with heroin, it's from 15 grams to 3 grams. The Bill does not interfere with law enforcement's ability to arrest and prosecute a criminal for sale or delivery of drugs, a drug induced homicide, or any other crime. Serious criminals will not escape prosecution, but someone's son or daughter might stay alive. Immunity will not be offered if law enforcement has reasonable suspicion or probable cause to detain, arrest or search for criminal activity. Some of you may have met retired Captain John Roberts of the Chicago Police Department, who was down here a few weeks ago to support this Bill. His teenage son, Billy, after struggling with heroin addiction, died of a drug overdose two years ago. John speaks passionately of the pain Billy's addiction caused their family. He said he supports this Bill because it might have given Billy the 09700067.doc 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 chance to stay alive one more day, and have one more chance at recovery. I ask for your favorable vote."

"The Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Eddy."

"The Lady yields."

"The… the levels were established in consultation with law enforcement in addressing their concerns about the amounts that were considered reasonable in terms of individual use versus possession with intent to distribute."

"Yes, Representative. This will send a clear message that calling 911 to save someone's life is not going to put 09700067.doc 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 you at rest… at risk of arrest and prosecution. There have been numerous studies in other jurisdictions and over a hundred… a hundred college campuses that have implemented these policies, where overdose deaths have dropped dramatically calls for medical assistance have increased dramatically as a result of policies such as this, lives will be saved, Representative."

"The opportune…"

"Go ahead. I'm sorry."

"Under this, a person who is overdosing and receives emergen… emergency medical treatment will be offered opportunities via the health care system but not the Criminal Justice System."

"For treatment. That… that would be the responsibility of the medical provider at that point."

"They would not be subject to criminal prosecution under this… under this Bill."

"Since there is no arrest or prosecution, that wouldn't be… that would not be a possibility under this."

"There are other opportunities, for example, in Cook County low level possession cases are… are pretty, automatically offered…"

"…mandated treatment."

"More times than they could if they were… if they were dead…"

"…which is what this is about…"

"…that if they do not get this treatment, if they do not get medical treatment, they will die."

"As… as I said, under… under this, there… there are no criminal penalties. You're absolutely correct. When an individual is… overdoses and is hospitalized, the hospital offers refer… referrals to substance abuse treatment, including free or low-cost treatment. That would not be an option if someone was not afforded medical care. They're not going to be arrested either. They're going to be dead."

"We are offering them the opportunity to stay alive and be offered treatment through their medical provider, through the hospital that responds to that call for medical treatment."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"The Sponsor yields."

"No, Sir, I'm not."

"Yes, I did. I've been with… I was with Cook County State's Attorneys Office for the last 14 years, managing many of our programs aimed at drug treatment, alternative sentencing, and… and programs… specific prosecution programs."

"Under this Bill, they… they may only have three grams of heroin…"

"…less than three gams… three grams."

"I don’t know."

"No, they would not."

"No, Sir."

"The… the 911 caller gets immunity. I would… I would expect that the other 9 people would be long gone."

"I… I mean the pers… the other people who did not make the call. So, I guess the other 8 people. We've got the person who is overdosing and the person who made the call."

"One person."

"The… the 911 caller is the person who is immune from prosecution." 09700067.doc 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Provided they survived, yes."

"The… the fundamental problem, Representative Reboletti, and I do understand your point, we do want everyone with a substance abuse problem to enter treatment. But if someone is dead, they cannot get into treatment. We need…"

"I… I do appreciate your point. In… in 2002, a study was released showing that in 50 per… 56 percent of the cases, 911 was not called because of a fear of prosecution. This is about those cases."

"That would fundamentally change the perception of the Bill. That would require criminal penalties to be on… on the table. This is about removing the perception of criminal penalties if you call 911. And under… you… you brought up drug induced homicide. If that remains an option, this is not about those cases. This is about someone not calling 911 and leaving their friend to die."

"This is not about marketing, and there is a consequence, the ultimate one. This is about people… people's lives and… and whether or not someone receives life saving treatment or not."

"This is… this is about whether or not there is a perception among these users that they will… that they will be immune from prosecution." 09700067.doc 80  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"I would look forward to working with you in the future to fully fund drug treatment programs throughout the state."

"You and I both know that it is not very often charged, but perception in the community is that they are going to jail."

"We need to remove that perception in order to encourage folks to call 911 and save their friends' lives."

"The Bill does not address the number of times. And with all due respect, the ultimate opportunity is if they're still alive."

"And that's what this Bill will provide the opportunity for…"

"…for that… that young man or young woman, someone's son or daughter, to still be alive for that family to do the intervention that you talk about."

"Representative Joe Lyons in the Chair. The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Jim Durkin."

"The Sponsor yields."

"Yes."

"Correct."

"Representative Patti Bellock."

"The Sponsor yields."

"Yes."

"Yes."

"Not a… not a whole shooting gallery full of… of people right."

"No. The amounts are… have been reduced to the level that that would not be an op… an opportunity for the dealer, at all."

"All law enforcement is neutral on this."

"They do not have a problem with it."

Speaker Lyons: "The Lady from Cook, Representative Ann Williams."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"A lot of the discussion has been whether this Bill actually will… if there's evidence that shows that this 09700067.doc 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 Bill will save lives, so I want to just run a couple questions by you. Is there any evidence that the fear of prosecution does stop people, in fact, from calling 911 in these situations?"

"Yes. There have been numerous journal… journal reports who… that… that quantify the numbers that… that individuals do fail to call 911 for fear of police involvement. A 2002 report found that 50 per… 56 percent in… in 56 percent of the cases where emergency services were not called and the… the drug user did not retain consciousness, they did not call because of fear of police."

"I believe the State of Florida actually recently passed similar legislation and, of course, we don’t have the benefit from their experience quite yet, but I understand a lot of colleges and universities have informally adopted this policy. Is that true, and… and does that prove that people are encouraged to call 911 in these situations or how does that…"

"Yes. Close to a hundred colleges and universities have adopted limited immunity policies, such as this one. And a study by Cornell University found that twice as many students called 911 in a drug or alcohol emergency after the 2002 adoption of that school's policy, while substance abuse levels remained constant. But the… the…"

"Okay. Thank you."

"Yes."

"To the Bill. This Bill is not about criminal penalties. This is not about failing to prosecute drug 09700067.doc 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 dealers, drug traffickers. This is about one thing and that's saving lives. I think the stat is… it's pretty staggering. In Cook County alone, last year, there were over 830 deaths from drug overdoses. And as one of the previous speakers mentioned, it's… it's just a staggering number. This Bill… there's evidence that this Bill would prevent some of those deaths, and I think that's good enough for me. I'd urge an 'aye' vote."

"The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Chris Nybo."

"Representative Ron Stephens."

"State your inquiry, Sir."

"I… I'll… I'll wait for you to figure that out, Representative. If you get the answer, let me know."

"She awaits your questions, Sir."

"It is to encourage the person with the… the person experiencing the overdose, should make the call and not fear prosecution as a result of it. Yes, Sir."

"In… in numerous studies, it has been established…"

"…that the failure to…

"…for medical assistance…"

"…frequently is based on a fear of police. Yes."

"I don't have the methodology available. The… the study…"

"…was based on the… the…"

"I don't have all of the methodology available. My… my apologies."

"Yeah, in…"

"…in the cases where consciousness was not regained, so where someone died, the people that were with that 09700067.doc 90  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 person reported in 56 percent of the cases that the reason they did not call was fear of police."

"In this study, it was people who self reported as friends who… who had friends die of overdoses."

"Representative JoAnn Osmond."

"His name was used in debate two or three times in the last minute, so, Dennis, go ahead."

"Our final speaker will be Monique Davis, and then Representative Cassidy to close. Representative Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First, I'd like to say that the saddest picture that one can ever see is a mother hoovering over… or hovering over the lifeless body of her child, regardless of the color, regardless of the ethnicity. The last one I saw was a mother from downstate. 09700067.doc 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 She had five children and she had worked very hard to get that oldest one through col… in college. An 18-year-old who experiments, as Patti Bellock stated, first-time experimentation and all of a sudden it's considered an overdose, or maybe they had taken something else with that but the friends are afraid to call 911 because they fear their own arrest. Just think, this life could be saved. This life could be preserved, if someone just picks up the phone and dials 911. Or your friends put you in a car, drive you and drop you off dying on the road because they're simply afraid to call 911. I just think these lives are much more precious. We don't want anyone to use drugs, but their lives are very precious. If a person is selling drugs or continuing to use, they will be caught. And those who continue to say, where's the treatment, where's the treatment, the first thing they would say is where's the money for the treatment. You bring a treatment Bill and they're going to say where's the money. Plus, they have an option to do that. Representative Bellock is absolutely correct. We cannot continue to let children lose their lives because someone is afraid of an arrest. Mr. Nybo was correct. We've all made some mistakes, maybe not as big… maybe not as big, but that kid who is overdosing deserves a chance to live, and someone should not have fear of calling 911. Vote 'aye'."

"Representative Cassidy to close."

"I appreciate the debate. I appreciate the concerns from my colleagues on the other side of the aisle. I look forward to working with you in the future on smart criminal 09700067.doc 94  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 justice answers to treatment, addiction, and… and drug use. This is… this Bill is supported by all of the major treatment providers in the state. There is no opposition. The bottom line is you cannot treat a corpse for addiction. This Bill will save lives. And I urge a 'yes' vote. Thank you."

"Representative Cassidy moves for the passage of Senate Bill 1701. Those if favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Biss, Will Davis, La Shawn Ford, Tom Holbrook, Debbie Mell, Art Turner. Would you like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 55 Members voting 'yes', 57 Members voting 'no'. Representative Cassidy."

"Can I put this on Postponed Consideration, please?"

"The Lady requests, and the Clerk, we will honor her request and put it on Postponed Consideration. Representative Jim Sacia, for a point of personal privilege."

"Representative Brauer."

"You brought a smell to his face. You've calmed him down, Representative Brauer."

"Raymond, from all 117 of us, God love you for doing it. It's a great treat. Re…"

"Representative Cassidy."

"A point of personal privilege, Mr. Speaker."

"Please proceed, Representative."

"I've enjoyed a very warm welcome to… to the chamber, and I would like to introduce my delightful and fabulous sons: Joshua, and Ethan, and Daniel, and my dear friend, Karen Love, who brought them here to be with us this… this weekend. Thank you."

"Representative Mike Bost."

"Thank you, Representative. The Clerk will so note. The Gentleman from Dorito, Representative Eddy."

"Representative Ford."

"Well, I… I'm glad we can be bipartisan in this chamber."

"Now, for something completely different called legislation on the Illinois House Floor. Mr. Clerk, on page 6 of the Calendar, we have Senate Bill 1773. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from DeKalb, Representative Bob Pritchard."

Speaker Lyons: "The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from McHenry, Representative Jack Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"Representative, I understand the intent of the Bill. My question is, what's the cost?"

"I get that, but what the analysis indicates is that what you're trying to do, if the analysis is correct, and I guess… was House Amendment #4 adopted, Mr. Pritchard?"

"Mr. Clerk."

"Okay. So, Amendment #4 has been adopted, and it's my understanding, with that Amendment is that the MAP awards that were to be given to proprietary institutions, for students attending proprietary institutions, who have already received estimated award notices from those for- profit proprietary institutions, for the 2011-2012 academic year, would actually then receive the moneys that were promised to them. Is that correct?"

"That… okay. But did… we just passed a law, as part of our budgeting for outcomes when we were dealing with all these different agencies, and in one of them there was a $17 million cut to those individuals who are receiving MAP grants for proprietary institutions. Isn't that correct?"

"Okay. So, my question is, 'cause you're trying to reinstate those for those folks who had already received an award notice, is that correct?"

"That's incorrect?"

"Then… that… that goes back to my initial question. How much does it cost?"

"So, the $17 million cut that we did last week, you're trying to undo?"

"Okay. Explain it to me."

"I'm just not sure how it's going to be funded. Where is this $17 million coming from? I thought we passed a budget with line items here last week. Where is this $17 million coming from?"

"Do we know where that's going to be because I… I know that the… the budget has already passed for next year, and this is what we're talking about."

"Correct."

"But we cannot… so, you're saying it would be moved from one line item to another because we cannot…"

"…increase our revenue prof…" 09700067.doc 101  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Okay. But, do we know where they wish to move this money from? Would it still be in education, or could it be taken from human services?"

"All right."

"So, what would this Bill then accomplish?"

"But not for proprietary."

"Okay. So, this is basically codifying what we had passed…"

"I apologize because I was unclear on the concept, but you've now explained it, so thank you."

"Representative Mary Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

"The Gentleman awaits your questions, Ma'am."

"So, Representative, let me understand what we're doing here. We are saying to the students who qualify for MAP that they cannot take their MAP money to the school 09700067.doc 102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 that they've been accepted to only because it's for-profit. Am I correct?"

"Representative, let me restate the question. If a student, not this year, not next year, but year after next, who qualified for MAP money want to take that grant to Roosevelt University, can they do so?"

"Can they take the money to Roosevelt University? It's a private school."

"Okay. Can they take the money to the University of Illinois?"

"Okay. Can… so, Roosevelt is a private institution, it's not-for-profit. They can take their money to Roosevelt."

"University of Illinois is a public institution, they can take their MAP money there."

"Now, what if the school…"

"That… okay. Now, my question to you, what if this… these students want to take their mon… this… their MAP money to a school like DeVry. Can they do so?" 09700067.doc 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Okay. And the reason why."

"Tell me the reason why the student, who wants to go, not to the U of I, not to Roosevelt, but to DeVry to get a certain type of training, technical training, why can't that student take their MAP money to DeVry?"

"May I ask another question, please? Is Sears a for- profit institution? Representative, is Sears a for-profit institution?"

"Yes. The company Sears. Is it a for-profit institution?"

"Is Mitsubishi a for-profit institution?"

"So, my point to you, Sir, what is the difference? The state gives the same money, we just call this pot of money MAP money, but the state give grants to private businesses every day. So, what is it about a student who wants to go to a private school that he or she would be denied to do so, but yet, the… the same state can give the same money to private businesses?" 09700067.doc 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Well, I beg the difference, Sir, because we've had… all the schools that come before our committee. Northern came before our committee, and they told of how many students they graduated and how much money those students were making, as a result of their graduation. University of Illinois came before our committee. They talked about how many students there graduated and what their income level is. DeVry… DeVry did the same thing. They talked about how many students that they've graduated, and how many students are now taxpayers here in the State of Illinois and do give a return to the dollar. They are making an investment. They are quitting… creating jobs. So, they're doing the same thing that the private businesses are doing. DeVry is a private business. Mitsubishi is a private business, and any other business that gets state funds, they are all private and they're supposed to give a return. But some businesses that we give moneys to, Sir, they take our money and they run with no returns at all. This money belong to the student. They should be able to take it to any school they so choose to. If the University of Illinois deny this particular student, Northern deny this particular student, and all other schools except for DeVry or school like DeVry, accept the 09700067.doc 105  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 student, what is a student to do, not be educated because these other schools deny he or she."

"I'm asking a question."

"What is the student to do? What is the student to do?"

"That's not what the student want. Remember, this is the student money. This is the money that the student qualified for. This is the taxpayer of that student's parents."

"This is that…"

"Well, you know what, Representative, and that's what I'm about sick of, and it's time for us to stop. These are the young people that are entitled to make their own decision as to the types of schools that they would like to attend, and we do not make decisions as to what type of businesses get state funds, someone else. We don't vote on that. So, my point to you, why are we picking on the children?"

"And…"

"Very few students, Sir, are graduating with 7 or 8 thousand dollars in debt, and chances are, when they do have their degree, a lot of those students cannot find a job. But from vocational and trade schools, they are able to create their own jobs and become tax contributors, as opposed to a burden. So, I'm asking you, please, to take this Bill out of the record until such time that there's a thorough investigation as to the schools that this should be applicable to, and then let's bar them. Let's take away their opportunity to get it, or do business in the State of Illinois. Quite frankly, they should not be doing business if they're using deceptive practice. And I urge a 'no' vote for this…"

Speaker Lyons: "Representative… Representative Lang. Representative Pritchard."

"Thank…"

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"Thank you. Representative, I just want to make sure I understand what you're doing here, and what you're doing is saying that no longer with the proprietary schools, the for-profit schools, be able to have their students participate in the MAP grant program, is that correct?"

"And what is the public policy behind that?"

"Well, what would the difference be between a private university and a for-profit university in terms of your public policy statement? Why are students at private universities entitled to this help, but not at the for- profits?"

"It's your Bill, Sir. Why do you think this is a good idea?"

"Well, then, why does this Bill not take out the ability of private universities to access these dollars for their students? Why don't we just make it public only?"

"No. I'm not for that anymore than I'm for your Bill. I was just wondering what… I have yet to hear a public policy reason why we would do this to the… to these students. What I'm hearing is it's simply a cost saving measure. Is that the case?"

"All right, but it's all about money. Is that correct?"

"Would you acknowledge that the students who will not be able to access the MAP grants, if this Bill passes, are being hurt by this Bill."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen, to the Bill. I rise in very strong opposition to this Bill. I'm a very 09700067.doc 109  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 strong supporter of our public universities, and our private universities, but I don't support them just because they're buildings. I support them because of the students that go to those universities. I support them because, we, in this chamber, we, in this Capital City, have decided over the years that we want to help kids go to college. We've had this debate in an ongoing way about whether we should have the legislative scholarships, and I've been opposed to those because I think the universities ought to decide who gets to get that money. But this Bill, Ladies and Gentlemen, is misguided. It's an effort to say, well, we didn't have all the money we wanted in the legis… in the appropriation process, so let's take one group of students… who aren't bothering anybody, all they want to do is go to college… let's take one group of students and single them out because they go to certain kinds of universities and say, you're out. We're not going to help you. This is a very bad idea. There are several of these for-profit universities, and we all know the names of them well, who are turning our excellent students, who have students that need this help. In fact, there's a high percentage of students at these not-for-profits that need this help. And so for us to take these students and push them aside and say to some of them, you won't be able to go to college, I think is misguided. Now, someone would say, well, if we take $17 million out of this line item and spread it around, there will be other kids that won't be able to go to college, and I guess that's true. But why we would set aside one group of universities, one group of students for 09700067.doc 110  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 this kind of practice is beyond me. No one in this Body supports our public universities better than I do. I strongly support them, but they can much more afford, much more afford to spread this around and help all students in Illinois of all groups going to all universities than to single out one small group of universities and say to the students that want to go to those universities, you're out, sorry, we have a budget problem, maybe you ought to go to the U of I. Maybe you ought to go to Northern. Maybe if you get into one of those universities, this money will be available to you. But if you choose, because you live in the neighborhood, that you want to go to DeVry or some other university like that, sorry, we have no room for you. I think this is very poor public policy. The Sponsor himself, a man I have great respect for, says there's really no public policy reason for drawing the line where he draws it in the Bill. The only reason it's drawn there is dollars and cents. And speaking of sense, this Bill makes no sense. Please vote 'no'."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, we have seven speakers. I'm going to implement the five minute mark here, and I'll be… certainly be generous with this, if you need another minute, just to try to get this thing focused. We have seven people to speak. Representative Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields." Davis, M.: "Representative Pritchard, are you aware that some of our community colleges have dropped their nursing programs; they no longer teach nursing?" 09700067.doc 111  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"…to the Bill." Davis, M.: "I talked to Representative Cunningham earlier, and he had an excellent suggestion. His suggestion is that the State Board of Education certify proprietary schools. Those that are state certified can get MAP grants. Those 09700067.doc 112  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 that are not can't get them. But to immediately, and I don't care if it's this year or the next year, but to deny these students who are not accepted at the University of Illinois, or Eastern, or Western, or Northern, to deny them an opportunity to get a skill, to continue with their learning is just… is just unreasonable. This Bill was talked about in Higher Ed-Approp, but the concern was we didn't have any statistics. We don't know… we haven't gotten a lot of complaints. DeVry is an excellent school. We said we were going to hold hearings over the summer. We said… Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We said there were going to be hearings held over the summer or over a year. We're going to bring these universities in. We're going to seek and look at their results: how many degrees are you actually offering; how many people are dropping out; how many are still owing money and don't have degrees; and how many are successful, like DeVry putting people to work in technology programs and engineering programs. The question I have before this Body is, do we really want to cut off educational opportunities for the people in the State of Illinois when we really don't have all the facts. Cosmetology schools graduate people who do the hair, the nails, massaging; do we really want to cut those kids off? That's not taught at any… in Chicago. That's not taught at any community college, or any other institution. So, before we do this, we should actually know what the results of this will be. As a Legislator, it is my responsibility to increase opportunities for learning, to increase the opportunities to prepare people for work. So, for me to 09700067.doc 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 cut that off, I would really be doing a disservice to the State of Illinois. This should be a big 'no' vote."

"Representative Jakobsson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Will the Sponsor yield? Representative…"

"The Sponsor yields."

"Representative, first of all, I believe we all understand in here that the state has limited funds. Is that true?"

"Is it true that if we don't pass this Bill we'll have to make cuts somewhere else in our Higher Education budget?"

"Probably next year. And one of the things that we did this year and, you know, we can't always say what we're going to do next year but we tried very hard to not cut the funding for our community colleges. Is that true?"

"If we don’t pass this Bill, do you believe that we might have to cut funding to our community colleges?"

"Those kinds of tough choices. And there are community colleges all over this state. I would think that maybe all of us have a community college in our district or very close to our district, and so I think we should keep in mind the kinds of cuts that might have to be made if 09700067.doc 114  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 this isn't passed. If it's not community colleges, it might be our four year institutions, and they already haven't been paid so we would just be punishing them even more. So, to the Bill. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Lisa Hernandez."

"Thank you, Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"Representative, would the funding to these… to the for-profit educational institutions be permanently omitted with this legislation?"

"Representative, would students who enter public universities have to… well, they have to currently meet academic requirements that the universities set? For instance, they… besides their high school diploma that they earned, they have to have a good ACT score, a good GPA score in order to enter the university. Correct?"

"Many times, some of our students don't meet those requirements or they're turned away, they're denied, and they have to look elsewhere. They have to find other options. Is that correct?"

"Wouldn't this limit those students to look elsewhere, especially those students who are in need of economic help?" 09700067.doc 115  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"But wouldn't you say that students who are eligible for these MAP grants are then limited on the options that they're not accepted to a public university?"

"Speaker, to the Bill. MAP was established to support students in pursuit of their educational programs that best serve their needs and enhances their opportunity to educational success. MAP reduces student debt burden, especially for students who are otherwise, may not have the means to fund their education. Demographic shifts have increased the need for multiple educational opportunities in our state. Students who receive MAP grant assistance are not wealthy and do not have the wide range of financial support. They count of their MAP award. MAP recipients all demonstrate financial need. MAP recipients are diverse and often enroll in programs in high demand fields like 09700067.doc 116  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 nursing, computer information systems, network systems, and administration and business administration. I encourage the… the Assembly to vote 'no'. Thank you."

"Representative Biss."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. This is a difficult budget year and this chamber had a lot of difficult decisions to make about how to even approach the budgetary questions we face. We began, I'm pleased to say, deciding unlike in previous years, to limit the amount of money we were going to spend to what we thought was available. And then the next choice that we had in our committees was would we then make the painful cuts needed to be made across the board without considering the public policy merits the different options, or would we instead carefully look at the different options and analysis their merits one at a time. And I'm pleased to say the Higher Education- Appropriation Committee decided on the latter option, to carefully analyze the options and evaluate their impact, their outcomes, as was our directive. There is a very clear public policy reason for this Bill, for this cut, and that reason is that the structure of the universities that are affected is fundamentally different than other universities. They are for-profit institutions, which means they have a much different set of options regarding advertisement, regarding marketing, certainly regarding the disbursement of funds which come in to their bank account, and most importantly, they have a completely different responsibility. These are, in some cases, publicly traded companies with the fiduciary responsibility 09700067.doc 117  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 to maximize the bottom line for their shareholders. That's simply not the reality that either public or private not- for-profit universities are experiencing. And that means that they have much greater flexibility about what to do with any cut that they're faced with. They have greater options about how to raise outside money to… to minimize the impact of those cuts, and those are options not available to either public or private not-for-profit institutions. For that reason, this seems to me… it's a cut. It's a painful cut. It will have painful consequences, for sure, like every other cut to an important program, but by putting the cut on these institutions, we are minimizing the impact for students. We are minimizing the impact for students because we're putting the cut in a place where it can be otherwise addressed by the institution of where the moneys that would otherwise be sent from the state to the institutions would necessarily, in legal… in following the legal responsibilities, of for-profit company, wind up in part in the pockets of the investors. In a time that we have so little funds to support our extraordinarily great higher education needs, this to me seems to clearly be the most painless way for students to decrease their spending. And so, I strongly encourage an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Representative Morthland."

"He awaits your questions, Sir." 09700067.doc 118  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Chapin Rose."

"The final speaker will be Ken Dunkin, and then Representative Pritchard to close. Representative Dunkin." 09700067.doc 121  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. You know, I chair Appropriations for Higher Education. I'm actually one of the… the individuals… the first individual to present in front of the Higher Education Committee, speaking to this issue of private, public and forproprietary schools. It was in a… the context of community service, of those individuals receiving these dollars. We had a very active debate and discussion in that committee. Part of that discussion led to some of the distinction in terms of how dollars, state dollars, were spent in those various institutions, private, for-profit public schools, and what I understand and our agreement was that we were going to have an active discussion over the summer and throughout the fall. We not only discussed it in a Higher Education Committee, but we also discussed it in the committee that I chair. And so, I am not only taken aback, but I am appalled that this Bill is on this floor given that commitments were broken and we're off on our own tangent, with myself and even the Minority Leader of the Appropriation Committee, discussed several days ago of us not calling this Bill. And so, to see this Bill on the floor is wrong, it's disingenuous, and I'm appalled that this Bill is on the floor given the… the commitment that we had talking one on one in the room with myself and your Minority spokesperson on my committee. So, this Bill, Representative Pritchard, should be taken out of the record, and the commitment that we discussed should be honored now. What Representative Monique Davis, what Representative Lou Lang pointed out was absolutely on the 09700067.doc 122  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 money. And it's unfortunate we are looking at this particular legislation in a regional prism. There's not one Member here who feels a certain way about a for-profit anything. That's not our job. We know emphatically that the state universities are a part of our jurisdiction, a part of our responsibility, but the fact of the matter is a disproportionate number of students live above I-80 that benefit from their choice. If they want to go to a public school, a private school, a proprietary school, because every school is not alike. They don't do the exact same things, and it's our goal to try to raise people's livelihood to the best ability that we can, and by the way, the people who are at these proprietary schools, they also pay taxes to us down here. Why not continue to give them the choices that they've always had? It's not against the law to go to the school of your choice. And what we wanted to do and what I thought was under the clearest, distinct understanding, was that we were going to discuss this further over the summer and in the fall and here it is, we're running this legislation, not honoring our commitment. So, I'm going to not only encourage Members here to vote 'no', but to really think about Members when they say or give their word to something of what they're going to do and what they're not going to do. I am taken aback completely with this Bill being run and knowing damn well that we were supposed to have a further discussion and have a… an open and transparent public hearing throughout our districts and throughout the state on this very matter. Now, if you want me to run the committee like this Bill is 09700067.doc 123  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 being run, and in… in a disrespectful, disingenuous way of breaking a complete commitment, that's how I'll run the committee. But I've been fair to every single Member in that committee, and now this Bill runs. And you know this is what we… we did not discuss. I'm… I'm surprised and appalled. Vote 'hell no', 'hell no'."

"The Chair announced that Dunkin would be the last speaker. Representative Pritchard to close. Representative Pritchard to close. Representative Pritchard to close. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House of Representatives. Representatives, please, let's bring down the noise, please. Bring down the noise. Representative Pritchard."

Speaker Lyons: "The question is, 'Should Senate Bill 1773 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Will Davis, Dugan, Gordon. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 61 Members voting 'yes', 46 Members voting 'no', 4 Members voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Rose."

"Proceed."

"Representative Eddy."

"Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As a Member of the Higher Ed-Appropriation Committee, the promise was to hold 09700067.doc 127  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 hearings and to see what schools of the proprietary nature were doing a good job and those that were not doing a good job. I know that some of us here represent area… excuse me, Sir. Excuse me. Excuse me. Some of us here represent districts that have colleges in our district, or we teach at a university. Some of us here have colleges in our district with watered-down programs. There are no vocational programs. You can't get a degree in cosmetology, so therefore, you've got to go to a so-called proprietary school. Where do people learn to cut hair? My understanding is in the downstate schools, it's in their junior colleges or community colleges. It's not in our community colleges. That's where people go to a proprietary school to learn to cut hair, to learn to be a cosmetologist. So, I can understand people protecting their turf and trying to bring all the money over to their side, but it's not fair to all the citizens in the State of Illinois. All these kids deserve the right to go to school. African Americans are 14 percent of the population. At the University of Illinois, there're 8 percent. They don't let them in. So, if you're not allowed to go to some schools, where do you go? Do you just stop learning, or do you go to DeVry? Do you go where some place you feel you can get a degree and become a working citizen in the State of Illinois? Now, this partial… partial… what shall I say, distribution of funds is just not going to work because I do believe Governor Quinn will see through these schemes. It's a scheme to pretend that there's proprietary money. There's no money 09700067.doc 128  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 labeled proprietary money. Kids get in line and apply for a MAP grant. This kid may want to go to Chicago State. This kid may want to go to DePaul. This kid may want to go to DeVry, but all of the money is coming from the same pot. It is not separated for proprietary public and private, but that pretense was pushed through some of these committee Members. Now, I am determined, as a State Legislator, to not allow anybody to continue to cut the opportunities of the kids in my district. You're not going to cut those kids from getting an education because you think you deserve all the money. And anybody on this side of the aisle… anybody on this side of the aisle who agrees with them, it's really too bad. MAP money should go to people wherever they choose to go to school. And the degree… the committee that met decided to hold hearings, not pass a piece of legislation."

"Representative Bellock."

"Please proceed, Representative. Thank you."

"Representative Mike Bost."

"So noted, and the Clerk will make appropriate notation. Representative Golar."

"Mr. Speaker."

"Yes, Ma'am. You're recognized. You're being recognized."

"Yes. I would like the record to… the record to reflect Senate Bill 1773. I would like to be voted as a 'yes'."

"The Journal will reflect your request."

"Thank you."

"Ken Dunkin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You know, I've been in the Body since December 3 of '02. You can say a whole lot of things about myself, but you can never call me a liar. You can never have me or cite where I've accused someone else of being a liar on this… in this chamber. I am extremely perturbed that an agreement was broken. Maybe they said it in a… in a language that I couldn't understand, whereas a Bill like that was going to run, but I respect every single colleague here in this Body and what we thrive off of, and what most of us really stand for and try to strive for is our word, is our level of integrity. Now, as a chairman of a committee that deals with allocation of moneys of Higher Education, don’t you think I would be extremely clear on an agreement to stop funding or to end funding over a period of time? Even me, in my most rational state or irrational state, can understand that, but you know, games are played here on this… on this floor, I guess. And I'm not insinuating anything but exactly what transpired and what occurred. I was… I was having the active discussion on 09700067.doc 130  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 this subject matter on a active basis with Members, and it just befuddles me to no end of how it is things got so contorted with a… a gross level of misunderstanding on this particular subject matter. Somehow, this was unclear. Somehow, there was a misunderstanding. Somehow, this Bill hit the floor in spite of what we talked about, what we were going to do in the summer and in the fall. I've never broken my word to anybody here in this chamber, or the other chamber for that matter. But you know what, what I've learned about this here, Mr. Speaker and I… and I'm going to conclude, in this business here, what goes around comes around. I've been fair on that committee. I've been extremely fair in the committee. There was no big guys or little anybodies, and here we are in a situation where somehow, someway, there was a gross level of miscommunication, misunderstanding, and this Bill comes out the way it kind of came out. So there's no purpose for us to meet over the summer. There's no purpose for us to meet in the fall. There is… but, the other question is, is there still a reason to be fair on the committee as a chairman? That's the question that I'm grappling with in my head. Should I continue to be free and fair to everybody? That's the question. I'm perplexed at this point."

"Representative Ford."

"Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed, Representative."

"I think the future of the State of Illinois is in great because we got a Tyler Morrison. He's already chosen the 09700067.doc 131  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 Democratic Party to be a part of, and we welcome him. He's a great kid, and he's over here, and I believe he's the son of Thomas Morrison, and he's doing just fine. He told me that I have to go and talk to some more Democrats, and he's gone, so we thank you for Tyler."

"Thank you, Representative Ford. That's the best thing we've heard in the last few seconds… few minutes. Representative Karen May, you have a report for us?"

"Yes. A point of personal privilege, also."

"Please proceed."

"I have Tyler Morrison, age four, and he stopped me to say you guys are doing a good job. And when I asked him to say it into the microphone, he said I've got more people to talk to. So, Tyler's talking to everyone and telling us we've got to get along. We've got to tone it down. He's going to talk to people. He also said his dad, while he makes decisions, his daddy makes more decisions. So, let's tone it down. Let's make good decisions for Tyler. And Tyler, thank you so much for telling us we're doing a good job."

"Tyler, you've got a bright future in politics, pal. You want to come over here and preside? You're welcome to go for it. Yes, Representative Morrison, are you looking for someone?"

"Please proceed, Representative."

"Just when we were getting along a little bit, Tom, you had to throw that out there, huh?"

"Representative Morthland."

"Please proceed, Representative."

"Representative Hays. Representative Lang."

"Mr. Speaker, this Bill was debated thoroughly. My side did not prevail. Why don't we move on?"

"On page 6 of the Calendar… not necessarily, Lou, 'cause you asked me to. Oh, by the way, the lights were out, so don't flatter yourself that you had the final word. Representative Chapa LaVia, you have Senate Bill 1799. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Lady from Kane, Representative Linda Chapa LaVia."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the chamber. I… I present Senate Bill 1799. I did go over some of the Amendments yesterday, but I want to hit on some salient 09700067.doc 133  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 points. The 19… 1799 would make changes in certification and educator preparation programs by rewriting the existing provision in the certification article, Article 21 in the School Code. ISBE, Illinois State Board of Education, has received $4 million from the Federal Government that will pay for the changes to all electronic systems that will be done as a result of these changes. The major changes in the Bill include consolidating type of educators' licenses and re… and requirement, strengthening alternative routes to educators' licenses, increasing application endorsements and renewal fees, restructuring incentive funds for the Illinois Educator Excellence Program. And I will take any questions."

"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Lee, Representative Jerry Mitchell." Mitchell, J.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields." Mitchell, J.: "Representative, could you go over the fee increases in that Bill, please?"

"Absolutely. Thank you for asking, Representative Mitchell. Current… the current $30 fee for application endorsement has been in place since July, 1994. Prior to '94, the application fee had been $20 since 1964, and the endorsement fee only had been around since 1986, which was $20. The increase for in-state applicants from $30 to $75 isn't a dramat… isn't dramatic as it sounds. Currently, a teacher gets an initial teaching certification. In high school math, for example, for $30 is valid for four years. 09700067.doc 134  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 At five years, teacher gets a standard teaching certificate for high school math and pays another 30. So, as long as individual as is in the teaching profession for a maximum of five years, he or she has paid in a total of $60 for the two certificates. Under the proposed, an individual would get a professional educator license and pay $75. He or she would never have to change their license because we're removing the graduated license system that is… currently in place where you have to move from initial to a standard certification. ISBE staff took a look at the license certification fee for teachers in other states as well as other professions in Illinois. Example: dietitians is $100; dental hygienists is $100; massage therapist, 175; physical therapist, 100; speech language pathologist or audiologist is $90. When we are current… changed current educators over from their current certification and the new license are under this system, this will be done automatically and will not be charged a fee at that time. As… in a current case, certification fees would be deposited into… as it currently is… I'm sorry, this case, certification fees will be deposited in the Teachers Certification Revolving Fund and be used to maintain the Teachers Certification Information System, the Educators Certification System and the Illinois Administrators Academy Management System and support agency teachers certification personnel costs equipped to link Regional Office to Education… Regional Office of Education to Illinois State Board of Education teacher's certification data bank and updates the technologies used in the process 09700067.doc 135  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 of the certifications and the endorsements. Proposed change for the dollars is $75 for license, currently, it's $30. Application for out-of-state educators would be $150. Currently, it's 30. Applications for additional endorsements or approvals is 50. It's… in this Bill would raise it to 50; it currently is $30. And registration fee per year, this fee would go to the ROEs, proposed is 10, and currently it's 5."

"Representative Mitchell." Mitchell, J.: "Thank you. Representative, is it… it is your understanding that this is the Bill what's needed to get us mostly out from under the supervision of the Corey H. case and Judge Gettleman."

"Correct. Well, no, it… it isn't. This just changes the licensures' standards and fees." Mitchell, J.: "Right, but this is… this is the direction that the court has held… told us to go several years ago."

"The Amendment 3…" Mitchell, J.: "Yeah."

"…if we're talking about that, yes." Mitchell, J.: "Right. Ladies and Gentlemen, this…"

"It's…" Mitchell, J.: "…this Bill will allow us to get underneath… get out from underneath the supervision of the court monitor that is… was selected by Judge Gettleman in the Corey H. case, all except for certification. Certification of special education teachers will remain open and will remain under the supervision of the court monitor until the case itself is dismissed. But this goes a long way toward 09700067.doc 136  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 getting us out from underneath all the restrictions that were in Corey H. originally some 10 to 13 years ago. So, I recommend it; it's a good Bill. The Representative was very good to work with us, offer Amendments that made it even more palatable."

Chapa LaVia: "And this complements 1790… of being comp… complicates. It compliments 1794." Mitchell, J.: "Well, actually, 1794…"

"Three?" Mitchell, J.: "…was created to complements your Bill…"

"Hell, I love you." Mitchell, J.: "…which was the majority of the case. I'm still not sure 1794 does what we think, what some think it does, but this is a good Bill. I recommend an 'aye' vote. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Representative Chapa LaVia to close."

"Thank you. I would just appreciate an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

Speaker Lyons: "The question is, 'Should Senate Bill 1799 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Monique Davis, Karen May, would you like to be recorded? Jim Watson. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 76 Members voting 'yes', 36 Members voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Currie for a Motion." 09700067.doc 137  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Thank you, Speaker. I move to suspend the posting requirements so that Senate Bill 1883 can be heard in the appropriate committee."

"You heard the Lady's Motion. Is there any objection? Representative Eddy."

"Barb, the Bill number."

"It's Senate Bill 1883. And the appropriate committee is Higher Education."

"Fine, Representative. We'll wait."

"You've heard the Lady's Motion. Seeing no objection, all those in favor signify by saying 'yes'; those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' it. The Motion carries. Representative Rose on a Motion? Chapin. Representative Rose."

"I believe the number…"

"…you're looking for is 372, Representative."

"You've heard the Gentleman's…"

"…Motion to suspend the posting. Seeing no objection, all those in favor signify by saying 'yes'; those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 09700067.doc 138  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 'ayes' have it. And the Motion carries. Representative Chuck Jefferson, what purpose do you seek recognition, Sir?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A point of personal privilege, please."

"Please proceed, Representative."

"I just want to recognize two young men who are here today, who are Paging through my office: Coy Pugh, Jr. and Justice Pugh. Two fine young men that are working their way through school. Coy's put them to work. These are Coy Pugh's two sons, and support them with your tips when they come to wait on you. Welcome to Springfield, gentlemen."

"Welcome, gentlemen. Glad to have you at your Capitol. Representative Bob Pritchard."

Speaker Lyons: "The Journal will reflect your intentions, Representative. Representative Jakobsson, on the Order of Senate Bills-Third Reading, you have Senate Bill 1943. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Lyons: "The Lady from Champaign, Representative Jakobsson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1943 amends the Lead Poisoning Prevention Act and the provisions concerning warning statements. It makes changes to the definitions of… of jewelry and children's products. Makes changes concerning 09700067.doc 139  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 the required content of the warning statement, and it provides that the warning statement is not required if the component parts of the item containing… or… I think that was changed. It adds the phrase 'complies with federal standards' to the required contents of the warning statement. It restores current law with regard to the warning statement concerning lead bearing substances, in particular, for children's products."

"You've heard the Lady's explanation. The Chair recognizes Representative Al Riley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"Representative, what's the reason for the Department of Public Health's opposition to this Bill? I see this other organization Lead Safe Illinois; I'm not familiar with them, but what's… what's their opposition about?"

"I am not sure. They didn't speak to me a lot about this, but I think they are not happy with the warning statement."

"With the what?"

"I think it might be the warning statement, but I'm not positive about that."

"Okay."

"I don't know what they're against, no."

"Well, let's assume that maybe, let's say, I mean, I don't know who they are, so I… I don’t want to speak to them, but they may be an organization of con… you know, that might represent people who are in that business. But… 09700067.doc 140  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 but we do know about the IDPH. They never spoke to you about what their opposition to the Bill is?"

"No."

"Okay. Thank you."

"Representative Jakobsson to close."

"Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Jakobsson moves for the passage of Senate Bill 1943. All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative McCarthy. Kevin McCarthy, would you like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 111 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Nekritz, on page 11 of the Calendar, under Senate Bills-Second Reading, you have Senate Bill 22… Senate Bill 2288. Representative Elaine Nekritz, Second Reading, Senate Bill 20… Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Nekritz on Senate Bill 2288." 09700067.doc 141  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 2288 changes the definition of… of municipal waste so that it would be possible for an entity in this state to take safe munic… the… you know, the compostable and the safe… safe municipal garbage and turn it into a product that then can be burned as an energy source to generate electricity. It… it creates two paths in order to be able to qualify for this. One is through… if the Federal Government approves this… of this process, then someone could come into Illinois and do this. And the second path would be to go before the pollution control board and get approval to… to… in order to implement this process."

"You've heard the Lady's explanation. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, Elaine Nekritz moves for the passage of Senate Bill 2288. All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Jefferson. Bob Pritchard. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 110 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 1 Member voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Brady, for what purpose do you seek recognition, Sir?"

"Please proceed, Representative."

"Congratulations and welcome to your Capitol. We're proud to have you. And now for something completely different. Ladies and Gentlemen, on the Order of Concurrences, we're going to be going through some of the concurrences starting on page 14. Not all of them have been approved from Rules, but we'll go through what has been. So, page 14 of the Calendar. The first Order of Concurrence Bill will be House Bill 180. Representative Kay Hatcher on House Bill 180. Proceed, Representative."

Speaker Lyons: "…the Lady's explanation. Is there any discussion? The question is, 'Should the House concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 180?' This is final action. All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Jakobsson, would you like to be recorded? Naomi. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 111 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. The House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 180. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Mike Bost."

"So noted, Representative. The Clerk will so note. The Chair recognizes Leader Barbara Flynn Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please also excuse Representative du Buclet for the remainder of the afternoon."

"So noted, Representative. The Clerk will make the appropriate notations. On the top of page 15, on the Order of Concurrences, you have House Bill 200. Out of the record. House Bill 220, Representative Jack Franks. Concurrences, Jack."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a Bill that passed out unanimously in the House and the Senate. This is the 09700067.doc 144  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 one dealing with taking away licenses of doctors who abuse their patients. Representative Burns had filed a similar Bill. That had also passed. And I think this is our belt with our suspenders to see which one the Governor's going to sign. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

Speaker Lyons: "You've heard the Gentleman's explanation. Seeing no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #2 to… Senate Amendment 2 to House Bill 220?' This is final action. All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Rosemary. Mike Bost. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 109 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. And the House does concur with Amendment #2 to House Bill 220. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 233. Out of the record. 237. Out of the record. Representative May, you have House Bill 248. Representative May."

"Thank you, Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I move to concur in changes that were made in the Senate, simply clarifying and adding further restrictions for some comments that were suggested, making clear that any of the water that's sold shall be subject to orders of the Pollution Control Board."

"You've heard the Lady's explanation. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, the question is 'Shall the House concur in Senate Bill… in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 248?' This is final action. All those in favor 09700067.doc 145  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Acevedo, David Harris, Hernandez, McAuliffe, Pritchard, would you like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 82 Members voting 'yes', 26 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. And the House does concur with Amendment #1 to House Bill 248. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Mary Flowers, on the Order of Concurrences, on page 15 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 279. Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I move to concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 279 dealing with the patients' right to act. And I'll be more than happy to answer any questions in regards to the Amendment."

"You've heard the Lady's explanation. Is there any discussion? Representative, this was for Amendment #2. Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 279."

"Mr. Speaker, can you take this out of the record for a minute?"

Speaker Lyons: "Out of the record. Representative Connie Howard, on the bottom of page 15, you have House Bill 297 on the Order of Concurrences. Representative Howard."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur with Senate Amendment #1, which extends reporting deadlines as passed in the House. The report deadline of employment restrictions would no longer be… would be no later, that 09700067.doc 146  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 is, than November 2011. The report deadline of the impact of these employment restrictions would be no later than February 2012. And the task force's report to the Governor and General Assembly would be presented no later than September 1, 2012."

"You've heard the Lady's explanation. Is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Doritos, Representative Roger Eddy."

"I stand corrected. The… the Representative from Crawford…"

"…Representative Roger Eddy."

"Everything has to do with changing of dates. Just delaying the dates of the reporting. As you see, there are three different dates that have been established, and to get more time, each of those dates is extended to a… a further time."

"As far… nothing else has changed…"

"…just the dates…"

"…the deadlines."

"The question is, 'Should the House concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 297?' This is final action. All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. There's 108 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present'. And the House does concur with Amendment… Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 297. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Flowers, Mary, are you ready on House Bill 279. Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur with Senate Amendment #2, and it would require the Department of Human Rights to be added to the Department of Public Health and to make sure to show patients how to file grievances in regards to discrimination. And I'll be more than happy to answer any questions."

"Is there any discussion? Seeing none, the question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 279?' This is final action. All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Brauer. Jack Franks. Camille Lilly. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 108 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. The House does concur in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 279. This Bill, having 09700067.doc 148  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Nekritz, on the middle of page 16, under Concurrences, you have House Bill 1091. Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 1091 is the authorizing legislation for public-private partnerships in the state. The Senate… and I move to concur on Senate Amendment #3. First, the Amendment would remove the language allowing airport authorities to enter into public- private partnerships. It would add… the second thing it does is add language allowing the Toll Highway Authority to operate… or provide the operation services on… on highways developed or financed through a public-private partner agreement with another public entity. And finally, it add… adds language allowing IDOT and the Toll Highway Authority to establish rules and procedures for the procurement of a public-private agreement under the… under the legislation."

"Representative Eddy."

"The Sponsor yields."

"Well, Representative, I don't know about… about what your staff analysis showed, but actually the… the legislation that… as it passed had a number of opponents 09700067.doc 149  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 listed, and on our analysis, they were incorrect. And so, that…"

"…if… if there's been changes from that 'til now, it's not because of the Senate Amendment. It's because we corrected that with staff."

"Well, I've… on… with regard of the first three, AFSCME and SEIU are neutral. What was the third one?"

"I… I don't know on that one."

"I believe they are supportive."

"The laborers are definitely supportive."

"I… well, they… I believe they were opposed in committee, but I don't think that they ever… that… that there was nothing we did to remove that opposition."

"The theory, Representative, from… is that the Federal Highway Trust Fund is about to be out of money and we are no longer going to be able to finance transportation projects in the way that we have historically done in this country. So we are going to have to look to alternatives. Public-private partnerships are going to be a way of building those major infrastructure projects moving forward."

"Correct."

"I… I don't believe there's… among the labor groups, I'm not aware of any opposition."

"Representative Riley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"Representative, one of the Amendments that, don't know which one, but removed airport authorities from entering into public-private partnerships. Is that true?"

"Yes." 09700067.doc 151  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Okay. So, for example, the south… proposed south suburban airport, they would not be able to enter into a public-private partnership for construction or other purposes?"

"This… well, they would… they… they would have to seek their own authorizing of… they'd to find some other authorizing ability…"

"I'm… I'm sorry. I really can't hear you."

"They… they would have to find some other mechanism to get authorization to do that other than this legislation."

"Well, what would that other… what would that other be?"

"Well, I'm assuming they would have… they could either come back here, or and I don't… I don't know enough about the… how the authorities are created as to… to know what… what other legal avenues they would have to be able to do that."

"Do you know… I'm sorry. I don't have it up on my screen right now. Who is the Senate Sponsor?"

"Senator Steans."

"Okay. Do you know the… the reason why that was taken out?"

"And I… I apologize, Representative, I don't. And if you'd like me to take the Bill from the record and find out, I can do that."

"That's not necessary but, I, you know, I…"

"Okay."

"…I would like… Thank you."

"Well, then, you know what, then I'll find… then I'll find it out for you and I'll get you that information." 09700067.doc 152  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"All right."

"Representative Dave Winters."

"The Sponsor yields."

"I'm… Senate… Senate Amendment 1 or 3, you're talking about?"

"Correct. Three."

"Okay."

"No. I'm… Representative Riley just asked me the same question and the answer is 'no'. I don't know the reason behind it. I'll be glad to find out."

"No, Representative, 'cause they… they did that through ordinance, and they… so they've… they've done that. I don't think that it… that has… that they're looking for that here."

"I… I think that's right, but I don't think that that… and it could be, but the City of Chicago did that, the ordinance. They did not… I don't think they came here to do that, or maybe they did. But they… they did that separately. That… so."

"I can understand that."

"The question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #3 to House Bill 1091?' This is final action. All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 65 Members voting 'yes', 40 Members voting 'no', 1 Member voting 'present'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #3 to House Bill 1091. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Mike Bost."

"So noted, and the Clerk will make the correct notations, Representative. Thank you. Representative Osmond, on the Order of Concurrences, you have House Bill 1128. Representative JoAnn Osmond." 09700067.doc 154  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"You've heard the Lady's explanation. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, 'Shall the House concur with Amendment #1… Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1128?' This is final action. All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Golar, Jackson, Jefferson. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 107 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present'. And the House does concur with Amendment #3… Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1128. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative JoAnn Osmond, you, also on the Order of Concurrences, have House Bill 1129. Representative Osmond."

"You've heard the Lady's explanation. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, the question is, 'Should the House concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1129. This is final action. All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Brauer, Kelly Burke, Jackson, Jefferson, David Leitch, Rosemary Mulligan. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 84 Members voting 'yes', 23 Members voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1129. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Monique Davis, on the Order of Concurrences, Monique, you have House Bill 1195." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr…"

"Representative Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur with Senate Amendment #1 on House Bill 1195. What that Amendment does is… or it removes the State Police from under the jurisdiction of the Law Enforcement Training Standards Board because the State Police have equal or superior standards for their training, and this just helps to standardize all the training that the canines receive."

"You've heard the Lady's explanation. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, Representative Davis moves 09700067.doc 156  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 for the… for the House to concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1195. This is final action. All those in favor vote 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Brauer, May, Sosnowski. Rich Brauer. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 106 Members voting 'yes', 1 Member voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1195. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Linda Chapa LaVia, on the top of page 17, you have House Bill 1216 under the Order of Concurrences. Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the chamber. The… I move to concur with Senate Amendment #1. It adds a representative from a group representing regional superintendents of schools to the member of the… members of the commission. The member will be appointed by the head of that… that association. I ask for its adoption."

"You've heard the Lady's explanation. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, the question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1216?' This is final action. All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Riley, Bob Rita, would you like to be recorded? Representative Rita, do you wish to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 106 Members voting 'yes', 1 Member voting 'no'. 09700067.doc 157  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 And the House does concur with Amendment #1… Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1216. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative John D'Amico, you have House Bill 1315 on the Order of Concurrences. Representative John D'Amico."

"You've heard the Gentleman's explanation. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, the Gentleman moves for the pas… to concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1315. This is final action. All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Feigenholtz. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 107 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment… Amendment #1 to House Bill 1315. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Fred Crespo, you have, on the Order of Concurrences, Fred, House Bill 1317. Representative Crespo."

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. I move to concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1317, which is a page and line Amendment that applies the same 09700067.doc 158  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 requirement for jury administrators and jud… jury commissioners to create or maintain a list of those permanently excluded from a jury list or journal… jury list, that this makes the Act consistent."

"You've heard the Gentleman's explanation. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, the question is, 'Shall the House concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1317?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. This is final action. This… Call the roll. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mike Unes, would you like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 107 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1317. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Mike Fortner, you have House Bill 1359. Representative Mike Fortner."

"Is there any discussion? Seeing none, the question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment… Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1359?' This is final action. All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those 09700067.doc 159  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 107 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1359. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Rep… Representative Lang in the Chair."

"House Bill 1458, Mr. Cunningham."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Sen… Senate Amendment 1 to House Bill 1458 is a highly technical change that does not affect the substance of the Bill, whatsoever. It was… the chang made at the suggestion of the Environmental Law and Policy Center. It replaces the terms 'biogas' and 'biosal… solids' with the term 'anaerobic digestion'. I asked for the chamber's support."

"The Gentleman moves Concurrence. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1380, Mr. Reitz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 1380 was a great Bill when it went to the Senate. With the Senate Amendment, it's still a very good Bill. Appreciate an 'aye' vote." 09700067.doc 160  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Excellent explanation. The Chair recognizes Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Thank you, Governor. I'm sorry. Thank you, Speaker. Is this your last Concurrence?"

"Never know."

"I'm sure. Thank you."

"Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Lyons. Mr. Lyons. Please take the record. On this question, there are 107 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority… And the House concurs with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1380. House Bill 1488, Mr. Rose. Out of the record. House Bill 1547, Representative Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to accept or concur with Senate Amendment #1 for House Bill 1547. During our present… presentation of the Bill, there was some concern about the appointments of equal Members, so the Senate has decided, which is very good, that the House and Senate Minority Leaders have equal representation on the committee. And also, it was asked that we have a repeal date, so we have added a repeal date. And I just ask for Concurrence."

"The Lady moves to concur with Senate Amendment… Amendment #1 to House Bill 1547. There being no debate. Those in favor vote 'yes'; those opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Ramey, Mr. Unes. Please take the record. On this question, there are 105 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no'. 09700067.doc 161  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1547. House Bill 1549, Representative Tracy."

"The Lady moves that the House concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1549. There being no debate, those in favor say… vote 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. This question, there are 107 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1549. And this Bill having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1558, Representative Gabel."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I move to concur with changes in the Senate. Senate Amendment 1 removed the reimbursement of expenses for members of the Lake Michigan Offshore Wind Energy Advisory Council, and a few other very small changes."

"The Lady moves to concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1558. The Chair recognizes Mr. Eddy."

"The Sponsor yields." 09700067.doc 162  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"It also, in preparing the report, there was another organ… that it also… it stated 'local, state and federal authorities with permitting, siting, and other approval authority for wind power developments in Lake Michigan'. It also stated that they added the Illinois Historic Preservation Agency as one of the agencies to be involved in this process. And it said that the council shall examine the topics identified in this Act and shall make recommendations to DNR during the preparation of the report to the General Assembly and Governor."

"They have been working with us and, actually, they wrote the language for this."

"I think…"

"Correct."

"Yes, the changes for the people who are on the council."

"As volunteers, yes."

"You're welcome." 09700067.doc 163  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"There being no further debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Record yourselves please, Members. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Mitchell, Reboletti, Rose, Senger. Mr. Mitchell. Please take the record. On this question, there are 90 voting 'yes', 16 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1558. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1651, Mr. Lyons."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate… House Bill 1651, the underlying Bill, was an agreement between the banking community and Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation. There was one section in there that we moved to the Senate, hoping that it could find language to make it work. They couldn't, so they just deleted the language. That's what the Amendment does. It deletes the language that was contentious, to be worked on at a further date. There was a couple other technical changes. I ask for your support."

"The Gentleman moves to concur with the Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1651. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Monique Davis. Please take the record. On this question, there are 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1651. And this 09700067.doc 164  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1670, Kelly Burke." Burke, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur in Senate Amendments 1 and 2. With the Amendment, this Bill passed the Senate on a 43 to 0 vote. It allows local school board members who participate in open meetings training sponsored by their school board association would comply with the… would comply with the law. And I move for its… to adopt the…"

"The Lady moves…" Burke, K.: "…Concurrence. Thank you."

"…to concur in both Senate Amendments. And the Chair recognizes Mr. Eddy."

"Representative Burke to close." Burke, K.: "I move for the… to… I move to concur in Amendments 1 and 2, and urge an 'aye' vote."

"You heard the Lady's Motion. The… those in favor shall vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Mr. Lyons, Mr. Beaubien. Mr. Lyons. Please take the record. On this question, there are 64 voting 'yes', 43 voting 'no'. And the House does concur in Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 1670. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1689, Representative McAsey."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I move to concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2. This is the initiative of the AARP to increase penalties in cases of financial exploitation of the elderly. It increases penalties as well as adding additional restitution requirements. And I urge the support of the Members."

Speaker Lang: "The Lady moves to concur in the Senate Amendments. And on that question, the Chair recognizes Mr. Durkin."

"The Lady yields." 09700067.doc 169  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"Yes."

"Yes."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion shall vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 105 voting 'yes', and 1 voting 'present'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 1689. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1699, Representative Feigenholtz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to concur with House Bill 1699, which is a Bill that came before the House Adoption Reform Committee along with 1698 and in its wisdom, the Senate decided to merge the two Bills. The eagle eye of Joe Johnson cleaned up a… a technical error. And I'd be glad to answer any questions and encourage an 'aye' vote."

"The Lady moves for the Concurrence with Senate Amendment #3 to House Bill 1699. There being no debate, 09700067.doc 170  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Chapa LaVia, Howard, Ramey. Mr. Ramey. Take the record. On this question, 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill… and the House does concur with Senate Amendment 3 to House Bill 1699. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1707, Representative Gabel."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I move to concur with the Senate changes. Senate Amendment 1 includes information on all vaccine preventable diseases. And previously, the Bill just had influenza and pertussis listed."

Speaker Lang: "The Lady moves to concur to… with Senate Amendments. And the Chair recognizes Mr. Eddy."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion shall vote 'yes', but before we do that, the Chair recognizes Representative Mulligan."

"The Lady yields."

"This is just information that's on the DCFS website, and it's just going to include information about all 09700067.doc 171  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 vaccine preventable diseases. So, it includes pertussis and influenza, and it will include things like chicken pox and measles, mumps."

"Pardon?"

"You know, I have not looked at the website. I'm not sure all the information that's on the website. We were just… what's already there, we were just including… right… currently, it was just influenza and we just wanted information on other diseases, as well."

"I know."

"Well, it… it's mainly to encourage people who deal with children to make sure that they have their shots so they don't spread disease and…"

"It's just general information."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative, in regards to… on page 7 according to the Amendment, you are changing the specific minimum age from six months to five years. Would you please explain that?"

"Let me look, but my understanding it that this is only information on the DCFS website and previously, it just said that there would be information on the website about the benefits of immunization against vaccine preventable diseases, including influenza and pertussis. And previously, it said for children six months of age to five years of age, and that's just taken out. So, it's just… there will simply be just information about this."

"Is this Bill only applicable to wards of the state?" 09700067.doc 173  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"No. It's just information on the website."

"Information on the website. So, all… in regards to the… the types of people that is required, it changes the importance of immunizing children, to immunizing children and persons. What is that all about?"

"It's just a description in the Bill of what the information will look like on the website. So, it changes nothing about what the requirements for vaccines or anything about vaccines except for information on the DCFS website."

"But it appears to me that it must make some types of changes in regards to who must have it and when."

"No. No. There is no… there are no changes in that at all. None."

"And so, this is information that's just going to go on DCFS… what's on the website now?"

"That currently does already. It currently does already."

"So why are being dup… why are we duplicating?"

"Well, right now, in the Bill… in the original language of the Bill, it said that the information was just about influenza. And my Bill… my original Bill added pertussis and the Senate changes just added all vaccine preventable diseases."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Representative Gabel to close."

"I ask for Concurrence on this Bill. Thank you."

"The Lady moves to concur in Senate Amendment #1. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is 09700067.doc 174  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Biss, Mr. Dunkin. Mr. Dunkin. Please take the record. On this question, there are 100 voting 'yes', 6 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1707. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1825, Representative Williams."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I ask for a Motion to Concur on Senate Amendment 1. It simply removes the immediate effective date."

Speaker Lang: "The Lady moves to concur in the Senate Amendment. The Chair recognizes Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Will the Lady yield?"

"The Lady yields."

Chapa LaVia: "Why are you changing the effective date, Representative Williams?"

"The Bill, as you may recall, requires parity and costs for cancer drugs, whether they're administered orally or v… the IV treatment. The health insurance companies request that we give them more time to reorganize their benefit pans… plans to comply with the legislation."

"Okay. Shaw, do you know about this change? Okay. Thanks."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion shall vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Crespo, Davis, Mussman. Please take the record. On this question, there 09700067.doc 175  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 are 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1825. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1908, Mr. Bradley. Mr. Bradley. Out of the record. House Bill 1985, Mr. D'Amico."

Speaker Lang: "The Gentleman moves to concur with Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 1985. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Biss, Jakobsson, Sosnowski. Mr. Biss. Please take the record. On this question, 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 1985. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2084, Mr. Crespo."

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. I move to concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2084. It basically makes this Bill subject to appropriations and repeals the task force at the end of 2019."

Speaker Lang: "The Gentleman moves to concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2084. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Colvin, Mr. Saviano. Please 09700067.doc 176  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 take the record. On this question, there are 106 voting 'yes'; 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2084. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2086, Representative Monique Davis. Representative Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "Oh, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur with Senate Amendment #1. Some people… this is the Bill that allows expelled and suspended students to attend alternative schools, and the Amendment adds, it is only if the safety of the other people has been taken care of. It involves the safety and so, we ask for your vote on this."

"The Lady moves to concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2086. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Bost, Mr. Cavaletto, Mr. Sullivan. Mr. Bost. Please take the record. On this question, there are 105 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2086. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2362, Mr. Barickman. Out of the record. House Bill 2870, Representative Chapa LaVia. Nice hat."

"Speaker, as your tenure as Governor, you didn't raise taxes. Everybody was happy. Life was good. This… this Senate Amendment, I move for its Concurrence. What is does, it deletes the requirement that the information collected on a military personnel be reported to the State 09700067.doc 177  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 Board of Education through the Student Information System. Is… this is an initiative of ISBE and I agree with it because it would end up costing them $400 thousand annually. So, they're still going to get the information, but they're just not going to use this system to do it. And I move for its Concurrence."

"The Lady moves to concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2870. The Chair recognizes Mr. Eddy."

"The Lady yields."

"Well, it… it seems that we didn't… ISBE didn't get… get the fax to us in our committee quick enough about the cost. It was raised in their committee, as far as that. And then also, I think there's one more technical change. Let me look at it really quickly."

"They'll receive it through aggregated enrollment information now. Before, we requested that they put it into the system. Now, they're just going to get it through the enrollment information. So, there has to be something with the systems there. I can get you, you know, after we… it… and it's still voluntary. It's not mandating that each school district do this. It's voluntary, which they want 09700067.doc 178  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 to give us information, whether their parent is a… be in the services."

"Cor… correct."

"That's… that's… well, it's still going to be reported through that format, but I want to say there's more language than what we're seeing on the screen because before, I think we mandated it. I'm sorry. It was always voluntary, but the… ISBE had stated that if we require them to do the collection of information through the… the Student Information System, it was just going to cost them more because they were saying personnel and other things that would be added to it. So, they already receive enrollment information, so they were just going to put another check-off whether the student had a parent that was in the military."

"Yeah, but… yeah."

"And it's still voluntary."

"You know what, let me pull this off record and let me talk to ISBE and Roger, thanks ."

"The Lady removes the Bill from the record. The next Bill is House Bill 2902, Representative Williams."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill simply adds one more member to the Electric Car Task force, and that is the representative of the Illinois Department of Transportation. I'd appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"The Lady moves that the House concur with Senate Amendment 1 to House Bill 2902. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; those opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Cassidy, Gabel, Jones, Mell, Nekritz. Mell, Nekritz. Vote your switches, Members. Please take the record. On this question, 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur 09700067.doc 180  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2902. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2955, Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. I move the House concur in the Senate Amendment to House Bill 2955. This is a complicated, technical Bill, a joint work product from the Taxpayers Federation and the Department of Revenue. They failed to list one date accurately that should've been for alternate fuels 2008. Instead, that read 2011, which meant that people would be entitled to it before 2008. That was not the intention. We were trying to bring this provision in-line with the Federal Tax Code, and that's what this technical correction does. I'd appreciate your support for the Concurrence Motion."

"The Lady moves that the House concur to Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 2955. And on that question, the Chair recognizes Mr. Eddy."

"The Lady yields."

"Actually, all this… this is a technical change. It just says that the deduction for alternate fuels or biodiesel applies after December 31, 2008. That's what the Bill should've said, but there was a technical mistake in 09700067.doc 181  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 the Bill as we passed it. This corrects that technical error."

"Thank you for your help."

"Those in favor of the Motion shall vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 89 voting 'yes', 14 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 2955. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. While Representative… while Representative Currie is doing Bills… Representative Currie. On Supplemental Calendar #1, under Motions in Writing, appears Senate Bill 178, Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. I move to suspend the posting requirements so that Senate Bill 178 may be heard in State Government Administration Committee tomorrow afternoon."

"Seeing no objection, those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Lady's Motion carries. Next Bill on the Calendar is House Bill 2974, Representative Kosel." 09700067.doc 182  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

"The Lady moves that the House concur with Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 2974. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; those opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Brauer. Mr. Brauer. Please take the record. On this question, there are 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 2974. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3025, Representative Kelly Burke." Burke, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I move to concur with Senate Amendment #1. It's a page and line exemption providing an exemption for financial institutions such as credit reporting services who already are covered by a Federal Law regarding the disposal of personal records. And I move to concur in that Senate Amendment and urge an 'aye' vote."

"The Lady moves to concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3025. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 103 voting 'yes', 3 voting 'present'. And the 09700067.doc 183  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3025. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3041, Mr. Nybo."

Speaker Lang: "The Gentleman moves to concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3041. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Dugan, Holbrook. Representative Dugan. Please take the record. On this question, 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3041. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Returning to page 20 of the Calendar, House Bill 2870, Representative Chapa LaVia."

"I move to concur with Senate Amendment #1 of 2870. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The Lady, again, moves to concur with Senate… Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2870. And again, the Chair recognizes Mr. Eddy."

"Mr. Reis. The Gentleman does not wish to speak. Those in favor of the Lady's Motion shall vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Acevedo. Please take the record. On this question, there are 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. The House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2870. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Mr. Reboletti."

"The record will reflect your intentions. The next Bill is House Bill 3042, Mr. Pritchard."

Speaker Lang: "The Gentleman moves to concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3042. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Hays, Jefferson. Mr. Jefferson. Please take the record. On this question, there are 106 voting 'yes'; 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3042. And this 09700067.doc 185  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3255, Mr. Moffitt."

Speaker Lang: "The Gentleman moves to concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3255. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Jefferson, Sullivan. Mr. Sullivan. Please take the record. On this question, 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. The House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3255. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3274, Mr. Rosenthal. Please…" 09700067.doc 186  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011

Speaker Lang: "The Gentleman moves to concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3274. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Gordon, Mulligan, Pritchard, Sullivan. Mulligan, Sullivan. Please take the record. On this question, there 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3274. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3403, Mr. Rita."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I move to concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3403."

"Please tell us what's in the Amendment, Sir."

"Basically, it clarifies the… the split-view screen for… what it does is makes it permanent for split-view screens in automobiles."

Speaker Lang: "The Gentleman moves to concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3403. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Davis. Will Davis. Please take the record. On this question, there are 106 voting 'yes' and 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3403. And 09700067.doc 187  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3620, Representative Feigenholtz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to concur with Senate Amendment #1, which simply adds a requirement that the design and construction of structural fill. It adds a technical Amendment, adding Illinois's Department of Transportation specifications."

"The Lady moves to concur with Senate Amendment #1. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. The House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3620. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Joint Resolution 4, Mr. Dunkin. Out of the record. The Chair recognizes Mr. Dan Burke."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like the record to reflect my intention to have voted 'aye' on House Bill 1707."

"The record will reflect your intention. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

"Leader Currie moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. 09700067.doc 188  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/28/2011 And Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Mr. Clerk, committee announcements. Members, listen carefully to these committee announcements, please."

"Members, by way of reminder, if you look at your committee announcement sheet, you'll see the following; committees at 3, committees at 3:30. Tomorrow, tomorrow, committee's at 3, committees at 3:30. Session at 4:00, and for those on Appropriations Committees, committee's after Session. With that… oh, Representative Eddy, just under the wire."

"That is the current plan, Sir, with… and there's no change to that plan, but stay tuned."

Speaker Lang: "According to my Calendar, Sir, May 31 is Tuesday."

"You sound disappointed. And now, Representative Lyons."

"Thank you, Leader Lang. And something near and dear to your heart, but we have the… I have a White Sox tickets for the White Sox Caucus, which will be held on the 25 of July. It's two months after we adjourn, so we're actually glad to see each other again by that point in time. So, anybody who's interested in going to the Sox Caucus, we sell them what we pay for it. There's no money being made on here. But those who would like to meet at Comiskey Park July 25, see me in the next couple of days. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Thank you for that really important announcement about the White Sox, Sir. And now, allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk, Leader Currie moves that the House stand adjourned until Sunday… Sunday, May 29 at 4 p.m. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Motion carries, and the House does stand adjourned 'til tomorrow, May 29 at 4 p.m. Have a lovely, lovely evening."