Illinois House Floor Debate — April 19, 2013

"The House will be in order. Members will be in their chairs. We shall be led in prayer today by Father Thomas Koys who's with St. Bartholomew Catholic Church in Chicago. Father Koys is the guest of Representative Berrios. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off cell phones and rise for the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance. Father Koys."

Speaker Lang: "We'll be led in the Pledge today by Representative Hatcher."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record show that Representatives Arroyo, Bradley, Cassidy, Jones and Zalewski are excused today."

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"Thank you. Mr. Clerk, take the record. There are 108 Members present, we do have a quorum. The Chair recognizes Representative Scherer."

"Thank you, Speaker. I rise on a point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed."

"I have two very, very special guests today at my desk. They are our honorary Pages and this would be Harvey Jr. and Amya Hall. And their dad is our very special doorman back here. Give them a wave, Harvey. Harvey Hall, our protector back there. This is his two children. So, if you need anything, they're here at your service."

"Thank you, Representative. Mr. Drury."

"Point of personal privilege, Mr. Speaker."

"Please proceed."

"Today we have Molly Stern here as a Page for a day. She's a 13-year-old seventh grade student from right here in Springfield at the Franklin Middle School. She's in the school's gifted program. I ask that we give her a warm Springfield welcome and hopefully, you guys will be pushing your blue buttons and asking her for assistance."

"Mr. Clerk, Committee Reports."

"Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

"Leader Currie moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Members, we've got a number of Bills to run through today on deadline day. There are a handful of Bills on this call that are Second Reading Bills, which have already been read a second time which can be voted on, on Third Reading. So, we're going to go down this list as expeditiously as 09800044.doc 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 possible. It will be helpful if you know you have a Bill, that you're in your chair and it will be helpful if the House of Representatives shows respect to all Members and quiets down right now. Thank you very much. The first Bill is House Bill 948, Representative Greg Harris. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, G.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill is in response to appalling and tragic set of deaths that came to our attention last year when the Belleville News-Democrat ran a series of investigative reports on the abuse and neglect of persons with disabilities living in community-based settings. This was something that our Department of Human Services Office of Inspector General had failed to adequately investigate and to prevent or to take necessary appropriate action. The Human Services Committee has had a series of hearings and a number of meetings with all stakeholders. I'm glad to say this is a complete revision of the approach that the State of Illinois takes to protect all adults with disabilities from harm, abuse, neglect and financial exploitation. I particularly want to thank Representative Patti Bellock, Mary Flowers, Dwight Kay and Senator Bill Haine who've worked with us for the better part of a year along with the Governor's Office, the Attorney General, the area agencies on Aging, Catholic Charities, disability advocacy groups, 09800044.doc 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 county coroners, medical examiners, law enforcement, Commander Mike McCarter of the State Police, medical professionals, equipped for quality to overhaul the system to create, instead of a centralized investigative function, a community-based investigative function based on the senior abuse and neglect system that has worked so well in this state for so long. It's a very complicated Bill and very substantial Bill. So, I'd be happy to take any questions and I would appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Representative Bellock."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Have all voted who wish? Gordon, Mitchell, Rosenthal. Please take the record. On this question, there are 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2809, Representative Feigenholtz. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Feigenholtz." 09800044.doc 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 2809 is an agreed Bill between DCFS, some Chicago Bar Association attorneys. There was a problem in a district, in Representative Roth's district, regarding a family trying to adopt some children from another country. Perhaps, some overreaching occurred on the part of the Office of Intercountry Adoption. We have attempted to remedy the problem by presenting a process under which we can monitor that. I'd be glad to answer any questions."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mayfield. Please take the record. On this question, there are 108 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1379, Mr. Phelps. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Phelps."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As everybody knows in this state right now there are a lot of financial challenges, pension liabilities, continuous budget shortfalls, but yet we have another looming financial crisis confronting us and that's our water and wastewater systems. What 1379 does it allows villages and municipalities throughout Illinois to try to seek options to address this crisis with their water and wastewater systems. This Bill gives small communities, 7500 09800044.doc 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 residents or less, a valuable option to help them address their troubled water systems. And I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Representative McAsey."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I rise in opposition to this legislation. This… this Bill I believe is absolutely unnecessary. It's opposed by the Attorney General's Office. It's opposed by CUB, the Citizens Utility Board. It's also opposed by Environment Illinois. This legislation only serves to increase water rates on consumers. It only serves to make profit motivated utilities more profitable on the backs of our consumers by allowing for a new way in valuation of the acquisition of water systems. Essentially, one town will be on the hook for paying for the acquisition of a water system in a neighboring town. Additionally, this Legislative Body recently, through supplemental appropriations and capital projects, has dedicated moneys to investing in water infrastructure around our state. If, under this scenario, state money could be spent to upgrade water systems, a private company could then go in and purchase that system and pass along their cost of acquisition to the taxpayer, whereby our taxpayers are paying twice for these water systems. This is bad for consumers. I urge your 'no' votes."

"Representative Ives."

"Gentleman yields." 09800044.doc 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Absolutely, Representative Ives. And I appreciate that. To the previous speaker, this is not an automatic increase. If they wish… the communities wish to do this on a voluntary basis, then they have to go in front of the ICC to get that. So, yes, this is regulated by the ICC. This is not an automatic increase."

"Absolutely. And you know, there's a lot of being… be said about our water systems. A lot of people think there could be eventually wars over clean water. Let's take for example Representative Bost and myself. We have a lot of small towns in our districts. There's a lot of water… water systems and wastewater systems right now that can't get the necessary funds to improve them. And more or less, Congress is not giving money out for grants to try to put a Band-Aid approach on these. So we appreciate Illinois Mineral and Water trying to come in and do this Bill to help out our small communities."

"David Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A question of the Sponsor?"

"Sponsor yields." Harris, D.: "Representative, I understand that this Bill and correct me… is this Bill supported by the cities of Alton, O'Fallon, Dana, Reading, (indiscernible), Sun River Terrace, Cairo? Some of…"

"Yes, they are." Harris, D.: "Okay. And is the Bill supported by the Illinois Chamber of Commerce, the Chicagoland Chamber of Commerce, the IMA, Plumbing and… Plumbing and Mechanical Contractors of Chicago and Cook County building and construction trades and a whole list of other organizations?"

"Representative Harris, it's probably one of the few Bills that's supported by labor and business." Harris, D.: "Thank you very much."

"Mr. Beiser."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Brandon, let me just go over a couple things I think might have been mentioned, but I want to… I think it's very clear and very important. So, the consumers… the ratepayers, they're protected if this Bill passes in what ways? You mentioned they have to go… any rates have to go before the Commerce Commission, correct?" 09800044.doc 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Yes, it's not an automatic increase. They have to go in front of the ICC plus, you know, they're helping their water systems and… for more better drinking… drinking water."

"Now, also, does this require municipalities to sell their infrastructure… water structure or is it only a tool for them?"

"This is only a tool. This is totally voluntary and it's only for communities with 7500 residents or less."

"Okay. So, if I live in a community that is… has one of their systems acquired, what protection does this have for those customers? In other words, can it be kind of doves… or dovetails into what I mentioned… asked first. They have protection within the Commerce Commission too, right?"

"Absolutely. The Illinois Commerce Commission has to approve all rate increases, if there is any. Actually, when… when some of this has happened, Representative Beiser, most of the rates on these have gone down. Only a few exceptions that… are out there that have we increased dramatically."

"And what size of communities will this legislation affect?"

"I'm sorry, Representative?"

"What size of communities?"

"Seventy-five hundred residents or less. This Bill only affects 7500 residents or less."

"Okay. So, Ladies and Gentlemen, I think what we have here is a Bill that I know in my area, Representative Harris mentioned my city is one that supports this, and I 09800044.doc 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 have a community that neighbors my district that is going through this process of updating. They cannot afford to update their water infrastructure. They have turned to a utility to come in and help them out and they've had an agreed upon process very am… very agreeable, everything moving forward properly as it should. They are not being forced to be… have these people acquire their system. It's all voluntary. They realize that the Illinois Commerce Commission has to have the approval of any rates. So, I think what we have here is a way where communities of the size that Representative Phelps mentioned can address their infrastructure needs in a responsible manner that protects the consumers and will ensure that there is proper infrastructure in place moving forward to meet the needs of their communities for many, many years to come. And I would urge an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Sponsor yields."

"They can recover the rates based on original cost minus depreciation. So, you know, there's a lot of water systems out there in the small towns that probably you represent as well that are 20, 30, 40 years old on paper and it's… on paper it's not worth anything 'cause, you know, our community thinks they're worth something."

"So, there'll be an appraisal, to be honest with you, that will be not only directed by American Water, some of the companies that come in and buy these infrastructure systems, but also the ICC will be there monitoring it… monitoring it as well."

"Absolutely."

"Yes, Sir."

"Mr. Hays."

"Mr. Kay."

"Sponsor yields."

"It… it can, but it has to be approved by the ICC, Representative."

"Yes."

"No, they will not automatically increase and matter of fact, Representative Kay, I want everybody to know that there are caps on these rates as well."

"Thank you."

"Representative Williams."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Very briefly, to the Bill. This Bill is strongly opposed by the Attorney General and it's opposed for a reason. This Bill is not good for consumers. Local governments are, as we all know, in desperate times looking for any financial resources that they can find. But in places where these water sources have been purchased, we know that rates have gone up, up to 400 percent. Four hundred percent over time. This is very 09800044.doc 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 untenable for consumers. There's a reason that the Consumer Advocacy groups are opposed. I urge a vo… a 'no' vote on this Bill."

"Mr. Tryon."

"Mr. Phelps to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I just… well, this is just the tool that's going to help our communities and help our water systems. This is only for 7500 residents or less. And remember, this is on… done by a voluntary basis. Appreciate this Bill and ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Mr. Dunkin. Please take the record. On this question, there are 77 voting 'yes', 31 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2, Representative Bellock. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Bellock."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? D'Amico, Dunkin. Please take the record. On this question, there are 108 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Mr. Poe."

"Please proceed, Sir."

"House Bill 3380, Representative Tabares. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Tabares."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members of the House, House Bill 3380 allows the legal guardian of a disabled person or the parent of a minor to request a security freeze on their credit report. This… the purpose of this Bill is to help prevent financial abuse of minors, individuals with disabilities and the elderly. I know of no… I know of no opposition and ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record… no. Sorry. Did you already take the record? Sorry, Members, if I shut you out. Mr. Clerk, with leave of the Body, let's dump this Roll Call. The Chair called the vote too soon. On Representative Tabares's Bill, House Bill 3380, those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Demmer, Mr. Evans. Please take the record. On this question, there are 108 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3379, Representative Tabares. Please read the Bill." 09800044.doc 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Representative Tabares."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 3379 requires school boards, including Chicago Public Schools, to adopt a teen dating violence into their comprehensive education program curriculum starting in the seventh grade. Currently, school boards are not required to incorporate the curriculum until the eighth grade. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Bost."

"Lady yields."

"Member initiative is against this Bill."

"Member initiative is against the Bi… No, no, no. Excuse me, excuse me. The Illinois Statewide School Management Alliance."

"Yes. They see this… they're in opposition because they see this as a mandate, but this just formalizes…"

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"Representative Pihos."

"Lady yields."

"Representative Berrios."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. Considering all of what is going on, I think our children need to understand the difference between teen dating and teen dating violence. So, I applaud the Member for bringing this legislation and anything that we can do to stop teen violence is important to me. And I would urge an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Representative Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. This Bill received a great deal of debate in committee and we talked about the fact that young people today are in groups dating or singular… doubly dating, but girls need to know that they should not be violated; boys need to know they should not violate girls. This Bill does not require anything that schools should not already be doing. This information can be taught in any lesson. It could be taught in a health lesson. It could be taught in a literature lesson. It could be taught in physical education. There are many opportunities to say to young people this is how you maintain your safety; this is what you're expected to do or what you're not expected to do. And maybe one of the problems we're having with young people today is they're not getting the information they need. I commend 09800044.doc 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 Representative Tabares for passing this legislation. And I'm sure that it'll pass out of this Body to help protect our boys and our girls. Thank you."

"Representative Tabares to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just want to mention one more time that school boards are already doing this. This would only formalize it. And I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Franks, Mautino, Sommer. Mr. Franks. Please take the record. On this question, there are 63 voting 'yes', 44 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1683, Representative Bellock. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Bellock."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Chapa LaVia, Farnham, Franks. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3005, Representative Mayfield. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Mayfield."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, this right here is a Bill that provides for interviewing individuals with questionable backgrounds. It basically says that you will not inquire of their background until the time of interview. There are several exceptions within the Bill that deal with Federal and State Law such as school teachers, bus drivers, day cares, health care workers, those are all excluded from this Bill. There are additional protections that have been 09800044.doc 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 added to the Bill so that should somebody hire somebody with a background, that would provide a protections to that employer that they did due diligence. It does not preclude running backgrounds or any… or even asking questions during the interview, it just simply provides an opportunity. I ask… I'm open for questions."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Lady yields."

"Representative, a few years ago I passed a Bill with your help that would not allow employers to use credit checks when they were looking at applicants for jobs, do you remember that?"

"Yes."

"And one of the things that we kept and we wanted to make sure that employers had access to was, if they wanted to, to do criminal background checks. Now, how does this Bill affect… affect the present law on criminal background checks?"

"The present law supersedes this Bill and anything that is currently in law would be excluded. So, if there is specific language in Federal or State Law that says that a background check is required at time of application, you would be excluded from this law. So, it would not mess… deal with anything with your Bill at all."

"I'm… I'm sorry. I couldn't hear the last part." 09800044.doc 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"It… it wouldn't… it would… your Bill would supersede this one. Your Bill would be excluded. Anything that's currently in law is excluded."

"Well, my… my law indicated that you could do criminal background checks. How does this Bill… what does this Bill do? How does…"

"Then you would still be able to do those criminal because it's already in your law that you would be able to ask those questions. You would still be able to do it because it is a State Law. So…"

"So, what does this Bill do? Tell us…"

"This Bill would provide for those entities that do not… that are not governed by State or Federal Law to provide an interview for those individuals. That's it. It simply provides an interview and it says that you can inquire of their background during the interview process. It does not preclude you from running background checks. If you have a practice in your business that requires a signoff at time of application, it does not even supersede that because that person is then giving permission to run their background. So, it doesn't even preclude that."

"What's this issue… I'm reading the analysis and I wish we had… I'm just… I feel a little rushed on this that's why I put my light on before I had a chance to read the whole thing because the Speaker's moving very quickly today."

"Okay. We're on #4."

"Let… what is the issue on the damages? Is there some cause of action that someone would have if a background check is run?" 09800044.doc 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"They would have to prove willful and knowing violation of the law, which is extremely hard to do. The bar is set so high and actually, what was previously asked for were fines up to 2500 which I was not comfortable with. So, I reduced it all the way down to 500 making it unappealing to attorneys so that we don't have those running… wanting to just go out and look for businesses that are not… that may not have removed the box due to a financial, whatever reasons. It… it's very difficult to prove willful and knowing violations in a small claims court because the bar is set so high. It is very business- friendly language that's currently in there. However, what is being requested, to be worked on in the Senate, they'd like to… The fees were not actually my idea. Let me just put that out there. They were actually an initiative of IRMA. I was not hap… did not want fees. I actually had injunctive language in there and now it seems that they want to go back to injunctive language. I told them we could discuss that in the Senate. I'm not trying to hurt my businesses in any way, shape or fashion. I've been working with everybody on this Bill."

"Then why do we really need it, though, because if you're saying that… that…"

"Because there's a presumption that if you don't put some type of remedy in there, then there's no incentives for the business to even do it. So, that's why I'm trying to make it…"

"To do what? There's no incentive for the business to do what? I'm not following you on that." 09800044.doc 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"To rem… to allow for interviews without questioning prior to… I'm sorry. Was that… to allow for inquiries prior to the interview. So, all…"

"But what's wrong with that? Because if I'm… if I'm in a business…"

"Well, because a lot of businesses, once you check the… if you check the box, have you ever been arrested, anybody that's ever been pulled over has been arrested, you know. And if you have a 20-year-old arrest that was not actually a conviction, should you have to list that on an application? That's the issue. And a lot of people are being excluded, you know, and not just given the opportunity and that's why I just want to give them an opportunity to interview. You do not have to hire them; there's nothing in here that says you have to hire them. All I'm asking for is that you give them an interview, give them the opportunity to get in there and sell themself to an employer. That is it. You do not have to hire them."

"But don't you think the employer has the ability to determine for themselves whether they wish to waste their time and the applicant's time?"

"But it may not be a waste of time. If somebody has an extensive background, you know, in that particular field, they may be able to convince that employer, who's sitting across, you may go in there with a closed mind and say, you know what, I'm not hiring anyone with a background, but then you get a dynamic person in front of you and you say, what… you know what, I'm willing to take a chance on this person. And I'd even put some guarantees 09800044.doc 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 into the Bill, some protections in the Bill, should you hire them, in addition, to what's not in this Bill. There's all types of tax credits out there available to businesses who should hire someone."

"To… to the Bill."

"Mr. Franks."

"There's binding opportunities and everything."

"To the Bill, Mr. Speaker. And I appreciate what my friend's trying to do here. And we, I think unanimously, passed a Bill a few years ago with all of your help where we were trying to help people who might have been hurt with the economic downturn. And at that time we passed a law that said that employers couldn't run… they could not decline employment and could not run credit checks on folks unless it was dealing directly with that type of business. This is much farther though and I… this is a regulation on business and I think that business people should be able to determine their own policies when it comes to hiring. We certainly shouldn't discriminate on the… on the credit issue, but here, I want to know if I'm an employer and especially if I'm working with money or working in the law or whatever it may be, but… at a jewelry store, whatever it may be. If I've got a beauty shop, if I've got a nail shop, I'd want to know a criminal background check. Perhaps, some employers wouldn't, but that should be their prerogative to determine whether they wish to do a criminal background check. I think this is too prescriptive. I think it's regulatory. And I think our businesses have enough issues that they don't need this regulation on as well. I 09800044.doc 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 appreciate the well-intentioned measure, but I'd encourage everyone to vote 'no'."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Sponsor yields."

"I think you're misunderstanding the Bill. This Bill does not preclude background checks in any way, shape or form… or a portion. What it says is that you cannot do a background check preinterview. You can ask any question you want during the interview. You can run a background check after the interview, during the interview, whatever pleases you. It just says you can't ask prior to the interview. So, you're not stopping an employer from doing the background checks at all, you know, it's just the prescreening process that we're looking at here. And I have been working with the businesses on this. So, it's not that I'm just trying to put something out there on the businesses."

"And the language that's in there, the but… the rebuttal provision actually came from the businesses. The businesses actually wanted a $2500 fine, which I was not 09800044.doc 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 comfortable with. I'm not trying to penalize my businesses in any way, shape or form. I'm just trying to provide an opportunity to individuals."

"All it…"

"Because all it does is provide an opportunity. It doesn't even guarantee it. It just provides an opportunity for an interview and it gives that person an opportunity to sell themself. If they can't sell themself to get a job, that's on them. All I'm doing is trying to give them an opportunity."

"You do not have to hire them."

"I would walk into your business. I would fill out an application. If I have the skillsets that you're looking for, you will provide me with an interview. During that interview you can inquire, you know, do you have a background? You can make me fill out a sheet…"

"…listing my background. You can make me sign something…"

"Mr. Reboletti is correct. Could we hold down the noise in the chamber? We have a lot of Bills. We all want to get home today, but we've got to move expeditiously. Mr. Reboletti."

"And that currently happens now."

"And you would just both… and they wouldn't know that by running that background check, if you chose to hire them. So, that… we're not stopping anything that's happening now, so those things are happening now. People are not listing everything on their applications as it is. But what this will do, it will stop… it will, by providing this, it would make employers more cognizant during those interviews to ask those key questions and to say, we do not hire individuals with a theft background. Do you have retail theft… They can ask specifically in that interview. I am not trying to stop that from happening in any way, shape or form."

"It does not help them get a job, it helps them get an interview. All I'm interested in is interviewing… the way they would get the job would be if they could convince 09800044.doc 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 that employer to hire them. All I want is an interview, not a job. I'm not asking for jobs."

"That… that is not true."

"Let me give you two examples. Let's say that myself and your neighbor's son both had… and we'll use your hardware store… we both have a criminal background, the exact same criminal background. You may be more likely to hire him with that criminal background because you know him and you're willing to take a chance on him, as opposed to someone else. By opening the door, you're at least giving him that opportunity to interview; whereas, you're not just disqualifying him, you know, as soon as he walks through the door. It gives you that opportunity and it gives every… I think it's a win-win opportunity for everybody because it says you can take that chance and interview somebody. Plus it gives you protections that says that you did due diligence in hiring."

"There…" 09800044.doc 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Actually…"

"…you know what, I'm so glad you asked that question because the Federal Government, in addition to all of the tax credits, the Federal Government actually provides bonding insurance as an incentive to protect employers. And that bonding insurance would cover loss of money, property damage due to theft, forgery, larceny or embezzlement. So, there are actual protections in place should you hire that person."

"So, there's a lot of…"

"…good things out there."

"Absolutely, absolutely. They provide you with those bonding protections if you hire that individual."

"And there's a rebuttable presumption as well. So, I mean, there are definitely protections out there, but I'm not asking you to hire them. I'm just asking you to interview them."

"I would hope you would hire them."

"It would totally be at your discretion. You know, you may want to take advantage of these tax credits. You might be, you know, such a good-hearted person that you might want to actually take a chance on somebody who has rehabilitated themselves, who may have had a… you know, made a mistake, you know, 7, 10, 15 years ago. You might be willing to take that chance on them."

"It would give them an opportunity to… to sell themselves."

"Yeah. And I disagree with that. Because there's an adage, you know, for every door that closes there's another one that opens. You may not… you know, by giving them the opportunity to interview, they may not get hired by that first company, but that fifth company might be willing to 09800044.doc 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 take a chance. And I just want to give them that opportunity. It is up to the candidate to want to go through the process to interview with 5, 10, 15 or whatever companies. But that one company might be willing to take a chance. And that's all I'm asking for is for them to have that chance."

"To interview, not to…"

"Mr. Hoffman."

"Yes. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Lady yields."

"Yes. Representative, the Labor Committee… I'm just trying to figure out what actually this Bill has become, but the Labor Committee, we were trying to attempt to work to get some type of an agreement and help you out. I thought that House Amendment #3 came through the committee and was adopted, but now there's this House Amendment #4 that is on the Bill. I don't believe that came through the Labor Committee."

"No, it…"

"Is that right?"

"That is correct. House Amendment #3, there were still some concerns by the Illinois Chamber of Commerce that we addressed in #4 and there were some concerns by the 09800044.doc 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 School Management Association what… that were addressed in #4. Basically, what we did is we added State Law so it's… and #3 it just says Federal Law and #4 it says Federal or State Law for those that… that are going to be exempted. We added the rebuttal presumption that was requested by the Chamber in order to remove their opposition. And we… and I severely reduced the fees that was requested by the Retail Merchants. They wanted up to $2500 in fees against businesses. I was not comfortable with that; I reduced it down to 500."

"Well, unfortunately, I believe that Amendment #4, it didn't come through the committee and I thought we had had kind of an agreement that whatever form this took that it would come back to the committee. And I'm not trying…"

"No, we did not have that commitment, Sir."

"…I'm not saying… I said I believe we did and I'm not… I'm not trying to be accusatory. I'm just saying that Amendment #4, as I read it, has created some more problems for your Bill."

"Well, actually, Amendment 4 was more technical in nature in that it just clarified some areas."

"Well, what I'm told is Amendment #4 now has the Retail Merchants as well as the Cable Association be vehemently against the Bill."

"Well, the Retail Association, as I said…"

"Rita, Rita, Rita, I'm not trying to be… I'm just trying to say…"

"I know." 09800044.doc 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"…it didn't come back to committee and may create some problems for your Bill."

"All right."

"That's all I'm trying to say."

"Okay. I appreciate that."

"Mr. Kay."

"Sponsor yields."

"I'm sorry, Representative?"

"That's my rebuttable presumption. It is in there and it was requested by the Chamber specifically for that point. We put it in there."

"I don't believe so."

"No. Because the business is presumed to have done their due diligence. This has nothing to do with hiring."

"They do not have to hire."

"So, they cannot file an EEOC charge if they don't hire somebody."

"I may not hire you because you have on a red tie. So, I… that's an option that a business has."

"Mmm mmm."

"Actually, that can happen right now. And this Bill does not address that. That means… that can happen right here today. You can go out… Wal-Mart hired… gets 50, you know, to a hundred applications per day. They don't hire all those people and those people do not go back and say…"

"…well, you know, you discriminated."

"This Bill does not address that issue."

"And I'd be willing to work with you on a Bill with that. I'm definitely trying to protect my businesses, not hurt them."

"As far as… I mean, this is for free… I mean, this has nothing…"

"…to do with hiring."

"This doesn't do anything with preoffers, Sir, I'm sorry."

"No, no, you don't have to offer a job."

"Mr. Crespo."

"Thank you, Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?" 09800044.doc 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Lady yields."

"Representative, I just got a call from the folks in the cable industry. They're very concerned how this Bill will impact their ability to… to vet installers. But most importantly, they're telling me that there was an agreement to hold the Bill and so, there's an agreement with the cable industry?"

"No. The agreement was that I would work with them. They want to put presumptive language back in, which I agreed to do in the Senate. I did not agree to hold the Bill."

"Okay. Folks, again, I was hearing two different things. I just want to make sure it's not… for the record, you're saying there's no… no agreement to hold it with the cable industry, correct?"

"Correct."

"Okay."

"And you know, the cable company, they were fine with the underlying Bill which had all those fines in there. I am not compl… I am not happy with putting $2500 fines on my businesses."

"Okay. Well…"

"There are no changes to this Bill that they should be disagreeing with when all I did was lower the amount. That's all I did, is I lowered the amount of the fine to the business. But I told them I would work with them in the Senate and I will continue to work with them on this Bill."

"So, you're going to work with them in the Senate? I think they understood that you were going to work with them 09800044.doc 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 while the Bill was in the House. But you're saying that you're going to work with them in the Senate?"

"My commitment was to work with them in the Senate."

"Okay. Well, I'll call them back. But I think they really believe that there was an agreement to work on this Bill in the House. Thank you, Speaker."

"Representative Cloonen."

"Yes. Thank you. Will the speaker… will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes. Can you tell me how this will work with the labor unions, for instance, there are… when schools are built there are provisions in the contracts that criminal history can't be done and so, then, on the day that the school is ready to have some cement finishers come and work, they call the… the labor hall and have them go out. Can you tell me how that works for the employer?"

"That's under… that's… all schools are excluded under current State Law from this Bill."

"They're… they are ex…"

"Yes."

"…cluded under this?"

"The…"

"Even though the contract says that we can't have anyone on the job that would have a criminal history?"

"Exactly. That's the exclusion. They're allowed to ask those questions at time of application. The Illinois School Management Association was initially opposed. We actually excluded them to remove their opposition. So, that 09800044.doc 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 is already addressed in this Bill. I am a former school board member, so I'm familiar with that piece of the law. And it basically says that at time of application, particularly within a school district, you can re… inquire about their background. And they are… and that's included in this Bill. That provides in that provision."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Sullivan."

Speaker Lang: "No need. You were the last speaker. Representative Mayfield to… Save it for another time though. We'll get back to you on that. Representative Mayfield to close."

"Yes. I'd just like to thank everybody for their indulgence. What I'm trying to provide here is simply an opportunity for individuals to interview for a position. I had complete and total support from all entities on this Bill. I'm not understanding where this opposition is coming from at the very last minute. It's very ingenuous of the companies that I have been working with to do that. I would like to say, along with a number of cities across the state… across the country, the City of Chicago and others have adopted local ordinances very similar to this. I believe there is a Governor's task force on this that is wanting to mandate this across the state for all businesses. I'm thinking that this is something very good, something that we should definitely be doing. And again, it's going to end up a mandate anyway. Let's just be proactive and set that language ahead of time so that we 09800044.doc 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 are guaranteeing protections for our businesses prior to that mandate. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Fine, Hatcher, Mussman. Representative Mussman, Hatcher. Please take the record. On this question, there are 24 voting 'yes', 80 voting 'no', 3 voting 'present'. And the Bill fails. The Chair recognizes Representative Kelly Burke." Burke, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like the chamber to welcome a young man from my district, John Vranas from Oak Lawn. He's a second grader at the Kolmar School. He's a guest today of Speaker Madigan and he's here with his dad, up in the gallery, George Vranas and his grandpa Mike Young. He is at your service today. Please welcome him."

"Welcome to Springfield. Thanks for being here. Mr. Bost."

"I have a feeling we'll have a procession of those, Sir. House Bill 2470, Mr. Turner. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Turner."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 2470 streamlines and clarifies the expungement process 09800044.doc 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 by adding procedural issues that cause… by addressing procedural issues that cause undue delays in the sealing and expungement process ensuring the individuals attempting to have their records sealed or expunged be kept informed as to the status of their order in ensuring that all law enforcement agencies involved are kept informed as to the status of the case in their order and clarifying existing law regarding the procedural process and deadlines for a part to ask the court to reconsider an order or for a party to appeal an order to seal or expunge."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Representative Williams."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Gentleman yields."

"This Bill provides that if a court order to expunge or seal records fails to comply with the law, it is not void. Instead it is voidable and a party can ask the court to reconsider the order or take it up on an Appellate Court… to Appellate Court on appeal and get it reversed. To the extent that there are court cases saying that expungement or sealing orders that do not follow the statute are void, is this Bill intended to clarify that these orders are voidable, not void?"

"Great question. Yes, Representative. The Bill clarifies that if a court ordering an expungement or sealing case does not comply with the statute, it's voidable. The second court has jurisdiction to reconsider the order and an Appellate Court can also review it." 09800044.doc 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Thank you. Are the provisions of this Bill retroactive? Do they apply in cases where the court has already entered a final order on the petition?"

"No. The Bill provides that it would apply to petitions that are pending at the time of the effective date of the new law, not petitions that have already been decided with a final court order."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Bost."

"Sponsor yields."

"No, Sir. Just a 'yes' vote will help."

"I appreciate it."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. It's Friday. Mr. Durkin, Mr. Sandack. Please take the record. On this question, there are 75 voting 'yes', 32 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 946, Mr. Yingling. Please read the Bill." 09800044.doc 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Mr. Yingling."

"House Bill 946 creates a task force charged with addressing the growing problem of heroin abuse in our schools and community. This Bill comes at no cost to taxpayers and members of the task force will serve without compensation. This Bill begins to address the alarming and all too often fatal problem by creating the Young Adult Heroin Use Task Force. The task force will be comprised of seven House Members appointed by the two Leaders and shall study the problem of heroin abuse in high schools and make recommendations as to how to address a growing epidemic. I would urge an 'aye' vote."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Representative Pihos."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Gentleman yields."

"It is a… it is a 4… it is a 4-3 split, yes."

"So, you have an odd number of people."

"No. This is actually… if this passes, this would probably be my first one."

"Yes, I would."

"Mr. Yingling to close."

"I urge an 'aye' vote. This is a growing epidemic in our state and we need to address it. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Have all voted who wish? Representative Bellock. Please take the record. On this question, there are 79 voting 'yes', 28 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the 09800044.doc 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2618, Mr. Brady. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Brady."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"I didn't hear the last part of your description. Is there something… was there an opt out or something you had said?"

"And if they opt…"

"If an episode. So…"

"…could you opt out before an episode occurred?"

"Right. Okay."

"So, how does this really work then? So, does this episode occur when you say it opts out?"

"What does the opt out mean?"

"Okay. So, it's a proconsumer Bill and the insurance companies even like it?"

"Wow. Okay, good job. Thank you."

"Thanks for explaining that." 09800044.doc 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Mr. Leitch."

"Gentleman yields."

"Mr. Brady to close."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 107 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3223, Mr. Beiser. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Beiser."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. 3223 is an initiative of the Operating Engineers State Council in the Laborers Midwest Region. This legislation is developed to help alleviate the Department of Labor's backlog of prevailing wage complaints and then to assist the department with investigations of alleged prevailing wage 09800044.doc 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 violation. This does not… I repeat… it does not expand the coverage of the Prevailing Wage Act. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Reboletti."

"Sponsor yields."

"Sure, Dennis. Like I said, it's an initiative of the Operating Engineers and the laborers. And it was developed to help ollevi… to alleviate the Department of Labor's backlog of prevailing wage complaints and also to assist the department with the investigations of any alleged prevailing wage violations."

"I think it's just a general philosophical opposition to the… to the Bill."

"In that they believe this is not… not needed and I respectfully disagree with their assessment. But we think that by doing this… and again, it doesn't expand the pre… coverage of the Prevailing Wage Act, it simply assists, we think, assists the Department of Labor's investigation of backlog of complaints and in violations. I don't know how better to describe it than that." 09800044.doc 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"I don't believe so, but I would respectfully suggest that some of those small business might deem it does."

"Mr. Bost."

"Mr. Kay."

"Sponsor yields."

"I guess I don't understand your question. It's…"

"…it… it… Representative Kay, currently there's a two- year backlog in these complaints. And what we're trying to do is to alleviate that which would not increase, you know, and to the previous question and to the previous speaker, maybe I… the way I answered a question led them to believe this. I have not been contacted by small businesses or others indicating that it would have an impact negatively on their business. I simply suggested that if there are those that they did reach out to I would, you know, that would… that's a possibility. But currently there's a two- year backlog and what we're trying to do is prevent further backlog and also, to alleviate that two-year backlog of complaints by creating this system where they do this upfront reporting rather than the reporting that is done now."

"In general, yes, because I think that the system that's currently in place, where we have this tremendous backlog, I think if we try to alleviate that and streamline 09800044.doc 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 it and hopefully, by the system we're putting in place by this reporting, upfront reporting, and more streamline, I think we would, once we get the backlog addressed, I don't think we would have nearly the situation where we have now moving forward."

"This is information the department can get now. What we're trying to do is just streamline the process. I don't think we're asking to… any great additional requirements. It's just, again, an attempt to try to streamline the process."

"What business do I have other…"

"This… this Bill is… the Bill I have before us, as far as other legislation dealing with the subject matter, I guess, you know, it all depends if you want to think that I 09800044.doc 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 have probusiness legislation, but this is the one probably most directly dealing with businesses in Illinois."

"Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, can you tell me the genesis of this Bill?"

"As I said at the outset, it's an initiative of the Operating Engineers and the laborers, who brought this issue to here to help the department alleviate the backlog."

"And I… I see you have a number of Sponsors as well, who have carried similar legislation, correct?"

"I'm sorry?"

"You have a number of Sponsors as well that have… I mean, you've been working this Bill for quite some time, correct?"

"Yes." 09800044.doc 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Okay. You indicated this Bill would actually help the business by helping them follow the… the law and to have them be made more accurate, correct?"

"Yes."

"How else will this help business?"

"We've worked with the contractors to help alleviate some of their concerns by in… pushed back the deadline for following their monthly certified payroll by five days from the 10th of the month to the 15th. I think that's a good faith effort that we worked with them to help in this situation."

"Now, currently contractors are already required to report a name and an address and a phone number of the worker, correct?"

"Yes."

"And also Social Security number and the classification and the hourly wages paid into each pay period and the number of hours worked per day."

"Yes."

"Is that all correct?"

"Yes."

"So, what this Bill would require… it would still require that, but it would require some additional things, correct?"

"You're correct."

"Okay. And some of the additional things are a worker's gross and net wages, correct?"

"Yes." 09800044.doc 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Okay. And that's… that's not going to be too hard to do because they're already required to say what the hourly wages are paid and also they are required to show right now the number of hours worked in each day, correct?"

"Yes."

"So, that would not be unduly burdensome, but with… they've already got that information."

"I would agree with that."

"And they also… one of the new things that you're requiring is a worker's hourly wage rate. Is that correct?"

"That is correct."

"And they're already having to say what the hourly wages are paid in each period. Isn't that correct?"

"That is correct also."

"So, this would not be anymore burdensome than what they're already providing. Would you agree?"

"I would agree with that."

"Then the next issue that you're requiring is an hour… a worker's hourly overtime wage rate, correct?"

"Yes."

"And we already… They already have to say that now, don't they? They already have to put that together?"

"Yes, they do."

"So, again, this is not an additional burden on business. Would you agree?"

"I would agree with that also."

"The next thing you're requiring is a worker's hourly fringe benefit rate. Is that correct?"

"That is correct." 09800044.doc 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"And that… do they have to show that now under the… the hourly wages paid into each pay period and through the classification?"

"They don't have to show it, but they have to have that information available if asked."

"Okay. So, they already have that information. They're already providing that information. This would just have it statutorily provided?"

"To report it."

"Okay. So, again, it's not an additional burden on business?"

"Correct."

"Then the next thing they want to know, that you're requiring, is the plan's sponsor or administer of each fringe benefit, correct?"

"That is correct."

"Now, they don't have to show that now, but they know it, correct?"

"Yeah. Again, it's another one of those things that they have to have that information, but they don't have to report it."

"Right. So, it's not like they have to go find that information. They know who administers their fringe benefits, correct?"

"It's already available and it's… 'cause it's currently required to have on file."

"All right. So, again, it's not an additional burden on business?"

"That is correct." 09800044.doc 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"And then the last thing that you're requiring is the name and addresses of each fringe benefit recipient. Is that what you're saying?"

"Of each fund, benefit fund."

"Oh, of each fund?"

"Yes."

"Okay. And again, the employer or the provider would already have all that information?"

"Currently, they have to keep that, have it on file and so, that's just like what we previously spoke to."

"Okay. So, you're not requiring them to produce anything different than they already have, correct?"

"Exactly. It's just a matter of… we're streamlining a process as we kind of went through as we went through each point per your discussion."

"So, it seems to me that you're actually helping the employers because it lays everything out and makes it more efficient?"

"I think so. And again, the outcome is that we reduce this backlog and in moving forward, we should not have a backlog, if this requirements and this form of reporting goes in."

"Now, in the Bill, there indicates that there is an opponent and that's the Chamber of Commerce. Are you… are you aware of any other opponents of the Bill?"

"No. At the committee testimony, they were the only ones that testified against it. We've worked with the other entities to… they've become neutral and that's when I talked about when we've worked through the… with the 09800044.doc 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 contractors to push that deadline filing back five days. So, that… that made them neutral and again, we just did that to work with them in good faith to try to make this more appealing to them."

"I think it makes sense. I think you've done… bent over backwards on this."

"And we feel like we've… we've actively engaged those that have concerns and we tried to address those to the best of our ability."

"But the Chamber… what's their… what's their problem with the Bill?"

"They haven't really spoke to me directly at all. There was a brief testimony against in committee. And again, I think it gets back to when… one of my previous answers to a question. I think it's more philosophical than it is anything specific."

"Thank you. Well, to the Bill. I appreciate the Gentleman's answers. And it seems that this Bill is not onerous. It's… you've bent over backwards to work with everyone. He's taken away the opposition and except for one, they haven't really articulated it. We're not requiring anything different than they're already providing. It's just a streamlining matter and I think it'll be actually good for business. And I'd encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Verschoore."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. A previous… couple of the previous speakers were talking about what a burden it would put on small business, cost them money. If 09800044.doc 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 it's a prevailing wage job, they’d have to pay prevailing wage, so I can't see if that's what they're talking about how that would put a burden on them. They have to pay prevailing wage; it makes no difference. So, I just stand in support of this Bill. And would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Hays."

"Mr. Sacia."

"Not… according to our analysis. In fact, we have the Associated Builders and Contractors, School Management, NFIB and the Illinois Policy Institute as neutral on this because of the discussions that we had regarding the five- day reporting requirement."

"Well, I think as we've… I've been mentioned in previous answers, this is all information that employers are currently required to have available and to… to gather right now. They're just not required to report it. They would be if they were requested to by the department. What we're just saying is, in these complaints that have been filed that have… again, have a two-year backlog, when these complaints are filed, Jim, this information is required to 09800044.doc 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 be gathered and reported. So, why not just do the upfront reporting in a streamline fashion of information that's already available that they've already had to gather. So, I would disagree that it's invasive because if the only change is instead of having to have it available, which they've used the resources to generate it, they now have to have it in a reported fashion. So, that's how I would answer that statement."

"Mr. Beiser to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I appreciate the comments, the questions, both from the opponents and from the 09800044.doc 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 proponents. And to the previous speaker, who I have a great amount of respect for and consider a dear friend, our analysis, as stated, does not show those people as opponents. They have not talked to me individually. They did not testify. And I hope the Gentleman realizes that I did not attempt to mislead anyone. I want to make sure that's clear. They have not reached out to me, like I said. Again, Ladies and Gentlemen, this is a Bill not to hurt business, not to create a problem or create more work that they… for them. It's an attempt to take a situation where we have a two-year backlog of complaints, alleviate that which would add no cost to the department, which would add no other requirements to business because they're already generating having to have this information available for these complaints and create a system where they generate it, as they do now, but report it upfront so that, as these complaints are filed, that information is readily available, Department of Labor can use that in… use in looking at the complaints and generating an outcome for those complaints. So, the information is available. It's just a matter of a way we reach out to report that information. The Department of Labor has asked for this. Operators have asked for this. The laborers have asked for this. We made a sincere effort to reach out to the contractors on the reporting, pushing that back five days. I think what we've done is an attempt to create a situation that is not good for business right now in that we have a huge backlog, make that better, not increase the cost to the department and move forward in a situation where we 09800044.doc 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 hopefully we would not have these complaints moving forward. And you know, in many ways, I think, create a better environment for those people that do business in Illinois and that do work in Illinois are the men and women who are part of the workforce. So, I would respectfully ask for an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. Members will vote their own switches. Mr. Bost has requested a verification. Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Poe, Reboletti. Mr. Poe. Please take the record. There are 68 voting 'yes', 38 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. Mr. Bost, do you persist?"

"The request for a verification is withdrawn. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Turner in the Chair."

Speaker Turner: "Still operating on the Order of Third Readings, we have House Bill 2590, Representative Sandack. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Sandack."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 2590 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 107 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2590, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1584, Representative Currie. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. This is a measure to improve transparency and accountability with respect to nursing homes to help consumers figure out what kind of institution is what kind of institution. It requires the public to find out what kinds of materials nursing homes are filing with the Federal Government and with the state. It would not require things to turn up on 09800044.doc 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 the web… web pages, but it would identify which nursing homes are part of a national chain, which are for-profit, which are not-for-profit. I know of no opposition. And I'd be grateful for your 'aye' votes."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 1584 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Mell. Unes. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 1584, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 162, Representative Chapa LaVia. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. This Bill has been a long… around for quite some time and it has to do with Miss Violet. I don't know if Miss Violet's in the gallery, but if she is… Can you stand up Miss Violet for a second? I think everybody knows Miss Violet up there. She'd come to your office and she'd lobby you and she's relentless on this Bill. And I'm going to read her words, since I'm not a baroness and I'm not an attorney, I want to read what she says that this does. It's a small estate affidavit. The Probate Act of 1975 requires the submission of a single small affidavit… estate affidavit by this offendant for the release of deceased funds in a bank, 09800044.doc 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 financial institution or a person in addition to a death certificate and the bank account number of the deceased. With these three requirements, anybody could withdraw all funds even in… if that person is a caregiver, homemaker, or a family member who could go to the bank fast and withdraw the funds. The bank, financial institution or person holding the funds do not have specific duties and/or obligations in regards to the protection of the minor or a disabled senior's funds. They do not have to verify the authenticity of the small estate affidavit or its release to the rightful benefactories. The release of the funds, after the three requirements have been met, clears the bank, financial institution and person of any wrongdoing. They cannot be sued in court because the case would be ruled in favor of the bank or as the case of Violet, she sued MB Bank for the release of her husband's funds to her stepson without her knowledge. Now, before I read the rest of this, you need to understand, this does not help Mrs. Violet in any way, shape or form. She's doing it so in the future other families don't have to go through this. House Bill 1962 (sic-162) has the… has the court get involved with specific instructions to the bank, financial institution or person holding a deceased funds, a short court proceeding with all benefactories… beneficiaries present in front of a judge who received the court order in regards to small estate affidavit for the proper distribution of the deceased funds after all debts, private and public, have been paid. The court also safeguards a minor or disabled senior citizen or a medically sick 09800044.doc 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 person's fund from any authorized withdraws. The court also helps in the maintenance of good family relationship thus preventing animosity. As an example of unauthorized withdraw from a minor's fund, from $210 thousand initially to 400… $46 when the said minor had reached legal age had led to the son filing a lawsuit against his mother and the bank. The money was initially deposited with a court order, but without a court order allowing the mother to make withdraws. I'll take any questions if I can answer them."

"Representative Brady."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Correct."

"Correct, with small estate containing less than a hundred thousand in total assets."

"They need to present a court order in addition to the affidavit."

"They would need to have a court order before they could proceed in that."

"I'm sorry. I can't… could you say that again?"

"So, right now, currently, the affidavits are being misused in this case and that's why usually people end up having to go to an attorney to sort things out. But in this case, it kind of… it fell under the auspices even 09800044.doc 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 at the, in this case, we'll say the victim being married to the gentleman where the children came in without knowledge of the spouse taking every bit of assets. So, we're trying to make the… we're trying to work with the guides, but helping individuals like this, in this case, that once again fall into small estate issues under a hundred thousand and no real property."

Chapa LaVia: "Correct. The two… I want to say the two biological sons of the… of the spouse, the deceased spouse. And the remaining spouse ends up having to sell everything just to pay for all the medical bills and what have you so left… left the spouse with nothing to pay anything even the funeral she had to borrow money from the son to pay for the funeral and she had to pay it back."

"Correct."

"Correct. And I'm willing and I discussed this with the Illinois Bar Association, maybe to look at some… some language that we can help make it a better Bill over in the Senate to maybe clarify some of the questions you 09800044.doc 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 have there, 'cause I don't want to make a bad problem worse. I want to make an avenue to help that's fair and just for everybody involved."

Chapa LaVia: "Yes. I have in ours the Illinois Bankers Association 'cause they don't feel that they should be brought into this. This should be in the courts. The Illinois League of Financial Institutions, same issue. The Illinois Credit Unions, same issue, 'cause they could fall under them because of the amount of money. And the Illinois State Bar Association had said that they'd be willing to work with me on some language to change this so it could be a great piece of legislation, but at the genesis request, she asked me to keep it this way so we can get it out of here, if we get it out here, and then we can negotiate on that side."

"Thank you."

"Representative Chapa LaVia to close."

"I want to thank everybody, in fact, I want to… I want to actually thank the birthday boy today, Speaker Madigan. So, I want to say happy birthday to… to our Speaker. But just to have the ability to stand on this House Floor and to represent this one individual who has been fighting about this issue since '09 and at sometimes having to actually live out of her car, not having the money to come down here, and not being told the… the total 09800044.doc 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 truth about, you know, how we can help her process of this legislation get to this point. So, I'm very honored to stand before you. I ask for your support for this so we can work further on this in the Senate for my friend, Mrs. Violet. So, thank you, Miss Violet."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 162 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. Please… Mr. Clerk, please move this Bill to the Order of Postponed Consideration. House Bill 3227, Representative Crespo. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Crespo."

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 3227 is an initiative of the Department of Insurance and cleanup language that addresses funds being transferred from the Professions Indirect Cost Fund in the Department of Financial and Professional Regulations to the Department of Insurance. In 2009, the Department of Insurance was moved out of the Department of Financial and Professional Regulations and made an independent agency and the funds stopped being transferred at that point. Happy to answer any questions."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 3227 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Will Davis, Lang, Smith. Mr. Clerk, please 09800044.doc 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 take the record. On a count of 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3227, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1446, Representative Willis. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Willis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill is really pretty much a cleanup Bill to go and put the Illinois School Code and the Administrative Code on the same level. Currently, one state that's… to make special ed IEPs available as soon as 10 days. And this one actually clarifies it and it is 10 school days that the special ed services… 10 school days after the parents have been notified should special ed school services be available to the students. I'm open for questions."

"Representative Reboletti."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"There's absolutely no difficulty with the Bill. I'm just helping out a fellow Representative." 09800044.doc 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Representative Reboletti, I'd be happy to help you out any time also."

"You're welcome."

"Representative Sullivan."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Just one moment, I will. I do not have them as an opponent on mine, so just let me check, please. I'm sorry, on my analysis they are not listed as an opponent, so I'm not aware of any opposition from them."

"Representative Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields." 09800044.doc 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Representative, I think that this is a good Bill simply because the student has already been identified as a student with a learning disability, correct?"

"Correct."

"And so, your Bill simply says that we want to make sure that we do everything that we can possibly do to implement the best IEP for that student, correct?"

"Correct."

"And so, what's the rush? Once we've identified the child, the student with a need, and the school feels that they need more time to implement it to work with all of the departments to make sure that the students are able to make transitions to special classes like gym, like art due to Corey H. So because of Corey H, I believe that more time is needed so that students are treated fairly when dealing with IEP. So, I think it's fair when schools ask for more time and you're not delaying the IEP process just the implementation of the IEP process, right?"

"We're actually not delaying the process at all. We're just making sure that there's proper notification and it's 10 school attendance days. Right now, the law states 10 days and that sometimes causes problems and confusion to people of… specifically the parents. Are we dealing with school holidays? Do we count weekends? So, this goes and follows through and says it is 10 school attendance days from the time the parent is notified the IEP will be put into process. It gives the parent some time to come in to question and then again, it goes again to an additional 10 days from any type of changes that any amendments need to 09800044.doc 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 be done to the IEP. So, it really helps make sure that we offer the best services possible to the students…"

"And will…"

"…and helps keep the parent as part of that team."

"Yes. This is a big step for the parents and the family. So, I think that parents having this time period to better understand what the IEP means, if the child may be on medication. All of these things will be taken into consideration, so I think this is a good Bill for the student and for the school and the parents. And I would urge a favorable vote."

"Representative Kay."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"I'm assuming that would go through the standard amendment process that needs to go through."

"While the superintendent is still… it's the… say the superintendent doesn't agree with the IEP, that IEP is not in place until all parties agree to it, otherwise it's still in that amendment process."

"This is not having anything to do with the IEP itself. It states once the IEP is agreed upon there are 10 days…"

"…to put it into implementation."

"Right."

"The Bill doesn't really address the IEP process. It addresses just the implementation of it once the process is done."

"That is not addressed in this Bill because that is not what this Bill is about. This Bill is codifying the time period once the IEP is agreed upon. That is a different subject totally altogether. That is not addressed in this Bill."

"That's not addressed in this Bill. This is codifying the time period only, taking the Administrative Code and the School Code making them the same." 09800044.doc 80  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Representative Davidsmeyer."

"Sponsor will yield."

"The current time period in the Administrative Code says no more than 10 days after the IEP is developed."

"As I explained earlier, what we're dealing with is 10 days. Is it 10 days from the beginning of it? As we've gone and changed it to 10 school attendance days. That's what we're putting it through and it's 10 school attendance days once the parents have been informed."

"Yes, Sir."

"Representative Harms."

"Mmm mmm."

"Representative Willis to close." 09800044.doc 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Very… Thank you very much. I also have one thing to address. I got a phone call from Representative Zalewski and he has informed me that CPS totally removed any opposition they have. Therefore, I urge an 'aye' vote on this. Thank you very much."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1446 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 107 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 1446, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1047, Representative Durkin. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Durkin."

"Representative Ford."

"Oh, my goodness. So, Representative… Would the Representative yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield." 09800044.doc 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Representative, you want to take Illinois back. Is that right?"

"See, I know what your line of thinking is. I'm talking about in the order of technology. We passed a Bill last year to protect the individuals at the workplace. And I respectfully read your measure and I think that you have every right to propose this to protect the business interests of people in your district and the people in the State of Illinois. Would you say that this is a business- friendly Bill or a consumer protection Bill?"

"How?"

"I would agree with you if the social media account belonged to the business. So, if you would amend the Bill to say that if the business that is making a request is the owner of the social media account, then they have a right to know."

"And the Bill that passed out of here last year on a bipartisan effort had protections for the employer and the employees in it, so what the Bill said last year… and I 09800044.doc 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 don't have my notes with me… but I do remember clearly that the Bill said that every employer has a right to make rules about social media at their workplace."

"I think that when you start infringing on a person's rights, I think that's when you start seeing morale go down."

"You know what else you've added that was agreed upon in the Bill, in the new law that we have that the Governor signed that 55 Members in the Senate voted for it, 78 Members in this Body voted for it, you added that not only can they ask for the password, but you also added that they can even ask for the user's name. And that's a big problem."

"But that's right. So, the username was a big issue. So, password and username…"

"…is a total violation." 09800044.doc 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Yeah. Thank you. To the Bill. I really have respect for the Sponsor and we talked about this. He wrote a letter. But I think that when you open this up to an employer to… that's already at a level above the employee, I think that it brings fear to the employee that if they refuse to give their password to the employer that there could be repercussions. And so, what does giving a password and the username to an employer expose the employee to? It exposed the employee banking information, credit card information and any privacy information that is attached to the social media account. So, ask yourself, if you would like to give 09800044.doc 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 your employer your password where you will be giving up your banking information, your credit card information and all the personal information that is attached to the social media. When it comes to the problems where we deal with problems at the workplace, if there are disputes in the workplace, the employer has the opportunity to call the police and bring forth any information that the employer has to prove that there have been threats to the… any member at the place of employment. So, to undo what we've already done in the State of Illinois to provide privacy for people in the workplace is unfair and it opens up the employer to possible lawsuits because there's nothing in this Bill that says that the employer has to get something in writing to prove that the employee rejected the request. Therefore, I urge a 'no' vote. And I ask you to stand with the people and protect the privacy of all people in the State of Illinois. Thank you."

Speaker Turner: "Members, can we keep our comments and questions as brief as possible. We have a lot of Members requesting to speak on this piece of legislation and a lot of Bills to move through for the rest of the afternoon. So, just keep that in mind. Thank you very much. Next, Representative Fortner."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Fortner, could you please bring your remarks to a close. We still have a lot of people." 09800044.doc 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"I know. We have a lot of people waiting to speak, Sir."

"Representative Drury."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"Representative, I appreciate the Bill. I have a technical question. I'm just looking at I think it's 09800044.doc 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 Section (b)(2) and it says an employer may request or require an employee to disclose any username. And I guess my question is about the word 'require'. 'Cause I've been hearing you, during the debate, saying they can request it and if the employee doesn't want to do it, they don't have to. Can you explain why both words are used in the statute?"

"Okay."

"And so, to the Bill. I think that what the Representative just said is a very important distinction because what the Bill currently says, it says request or require, but what he has represented to all of us is this simply is going to allow the employer to request an employee to request if they would give this information. The employee can refuse and there can be no retribution. 09800044.doc 94  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 The statute makes it very clear that it's simply, will you provide this information? The employee can say no, I won't and the employer at that point has… has no means to… to seek to discriminate, to seek to fire this person. So, it's merely allowing an employer to ask a question and giving the employee the decision-making power to decide whether they want to do it or not. And with that change, I think this is a good Bill, Representative. And I'll support it."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

"The Gentleman will yield."

"Representative, would it be implied that if I do not give up this information that I may lose my job without being…"

"…no? Just by… but by virtue of the fact that my employer is asking me for some private information that has nothing to do with my job because we still have the Constitution here in the State of Illinois."

"And so, it should not even be in the preview of the employer to even ask for my private information that has nothing to do with my job. So, because of the power and the authority that my employer have over me, it would be perceived that if I don't give up this information that I may lose my job. Am I correct?"

"Is it possible that that could happen?" 09800044.doc 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Okay."

"Well, it… it also says in the Constitution in Section 1, under the Bill of Rights, the inherent and inalienable rights all men are by nature free and independent and have certain inherent and inalienable rights among which are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. So, to me there's a conflict there. And I'm not…"

"Because then if I have to give up my rights or if I feel like I'm pressured to give up my rights, and if I don't, I might lose my job. Now, he may not say or she may not say I'll lose my job because I did not give up that information, but it can be assumed that it might happen. And so, therefore, I would be willing to give it up. But let me just ask another question."

"Well, that's true, but let's go back to the safe work…"

"Can we go back to the safe work environment, please? So, if I choose not to give up my information, does that mean that I… we're not working in a safe work environment or I may do some harm just because I did not give up my information?"

"But…"

"But they may not be on my… on my social network page. But my… my other question to you is this. For instance, like if my… my HIPAA information if that… if I may have that on my social network page, because I don't have it… I don't… the page is not open to everyone. It's only open to a certain amount of my friends, so therefore, they know of my situation, but now my employer would know something that's supposed to be private to me."

"What… what part of it is not true?"

"Well, I think even…"

"It's so… let me just ask you. I mean, because you could just, you know, kind of fluff it off, but let me just ask him a question."

"Is it possible… is it…"

"Is it… I need to ask another question. Is it possible that my doctor could e-mail something to that account? Is that possible, I'm asking?"

"My…" 09800044.doc 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"That is dealing with reality."

"But that's a part of my privacy."

"That's a part of my inalienable rights. That should not be violated."

"I don't think my emp… if my employer think that I may be a threat, I think what he should do is fire me. But not have to look through my family photos and my medical history and anything else. But this…"

"And under the Bill I know I can say no…"

"…and you can still just fire me. So, just fire me. I don't…"

"No, no. What I'm…"

"…what I am saying that my employer should… if I work from 9 to 5 and I do my job, I should be respected for 09800044.doc 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 doing my job from 9 to 5. From five minutes after 5 until I have to go back to work, that should be my time and my privacy."

"Representative…"

"With all due respect, I would appreciate a 'no' vote. And thank you very much, Sir."

"Representative Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative, I think both you and I supported the previous legislation that the Gentleman from Cook County had. Well, I supported that and I think it made perfect sense. Now, what you're trying to do here as I'm… and I'm reading… and I'm reading the legislation, you're allowing… is the way I read it… if there's a threat to the firm or something, you're allowing them to go into a personal account?"

"No. But…"

"The way I'm reading it, they can actually require it. Here's what I was thinking. Let… two weeks ago or three 09800044.doc 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 weeks ago, my e-mail account was hacked. And people were pretending… whoever had hacked it… was actually pretending they were me and people were sending e-mails and they were responding."

"Well, it freaked me out…"

"…because I've got clients. I've got… this was my personal e-mail…"

"…but I was also using it for business. So, I got my business manager involved at my office. They obviously needed all my passwords, my account stuff, because they were concerned that the server then could also be compromised. So, I think that does make sense. But the way I read this, I think that the… I think that the employer can require that if they're worried about a… a security breach."

"Okay."

"This will be amended yet in the Senate?"

"Okay. I wanted to make sure and… and I'm a cosponsor of this Bill. But I know that there's some work that needs 09800044.doc 101  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 to be done. Is Leader Radogno involved in this in the Senate?"

"Okay. So, she'll be helping draft the… the changes that need to be made?"

"Okay."

"I want to give another real life example of why I believe this is important. And as I said, I supported the other legislation, but I think this makes it better. Let's assume you're an employer and you have an ice cream store or whatever it might be. And I'm not very computer savvy, but I, you know, my 18-year-old son is though, and his generation is. So, let's assume I hire somebody else's, you know, a young… 25 years old. And this person runs my presence on Facebook or Twitter and does the e-mail. For some reason, that person's no longer employed by the ice cream company, I'm pretty much shut down from reaching out to my customers through Facebook, Twitter and the Internet because I don't know those accounts. Would you agree?"

"So, this would help protect businesses to be able to continue to function if they lost someone who was controlling these accounts?"

"So, I think this makes perfect sense for those reasons. And as long as those procedural safeguards are put in the Senate, this should fly out of here unanimously." 09800044.doc 102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"And I think you're filling a loophole that we had not anticipated with the original language."

"Well, I encourage an 'aye' vote. And I appreciate you bringing it forward." 09800044.doc 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Representative Durkin to close."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1047 pass?' All in favor will vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Flowers. Sommer. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 69 voting 'yes', 35 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present', House Bill 1047, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Bost."

Speaker Turner: "The record will reflect your request. Representative Meier."

"State your point, Sir."

"Representative Brady." 09800044.doc 105  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Please state your point."

"Welcome to your Capitol."

"Representative Golar."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like the record to reflect that I wanted to be a 'no' on HB1047."

"The Journal will reflect your request."

"Thank you."

"Representative Cavaletto."

"State your point, Sir."

"Representative Reboletti."

Speaker Turner: "The Journal will reflect your request. Representative Bost."

"Please state your point, Sir."

"Representative Costello."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"Please state your point, Sir." 09800044.doc 108  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"To Representative Meier's point, Representative Cavaletto and Representative Bost, I want to ensure everyone in this chamber that there is bipartisan support in southern Illinois for keeping Murray Center open. I believe that's something that has been shown to the Governor time and time again. And to Mr. Bost's point, these are absolutely, Ladies and Gentlemen, the most neediest citizens of the State of Illinois. Many of them it would take a minimum, minimum, of a year for them to even acclimate to a new facility. I think what's going on is wrong. I think the Governor's made a very poor decision and I truly want you to understand that there is bipartisan support in southern Illinois to keep this facility open. I think it's shameful what is going on and once again, I think the Governor's made a huge mistake."

"Representative Beiser."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"Please state your point, Sir."

"Thank you to the previous speakers and to Leader Bost, I just want to echo some of his statements but on a more succinct manner. I can guarantee you, even though my district is miles away, I've been contacted by two families, personally have sat in my office in my district, begging me to do whatever's possible to keep this facility open. And it's been previously alluded to, we did provide those funds to keep that facility open, but I can guarantee you as we stand here now and we hear this disturbing news given to us by Representative Meier, that the decision by the administration to move forward in the closing of this 09800044.doc 109  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 facility, I can guarantee you there is a man and a wife in tears right now because they don't know what they're going to do. They don't know what hurt this has inflicted… or they know, I should say, on their child in that facility. And probably more heart-wrenching to me is there's an older gentleman, whose wife is in a nursing home whose child was in this facility, he came into my office and he was just literally in tears about this situation. He didn't know what he was going to do. So, I can guarantee you that the administration and now has cost two members in my family to be in tears, to be distraught and not know what the future holds for them and their children. I echo Representative Costello's comments. This is not a Republican or a Democratic issue. This is an issue shared, the concerns, by both sides of the aisle and it just… it just disgusts me that this kind of pain has been inflicted on these families. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, we still have a large number of Bills to move through for the rest of this afternoon. Please be brief in your comments. We want to give everybody the right to speak and respect peoples' comments, but please be brief. We have a lot of Bills to move through. Representative Kay."

"Please state your point, Sir."

"Representative Phelps."

"A point of personal privilege."

"Please state your point, briefly."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I, too, be brief. I, too, want to stand up. Working on both sides of this, that we did put the money in for all these facilities and I'm not 09800044.doc 111  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 going to into Tamms, but that's a travesty, they say it was inhumane as well. How inhumane is it when you have inmates, right now, living in gymnasiums bunked together? Now, I think that's absolutely inhumane. But I also want to stand up in support of my colleagues on both sides of the aisle because these are the neediest people in the state. The Governor is wrong in what he did and we all know when his brother got fired he didn't like it, but what are we supposed to tell the people that he fired? The many families that he's laid off and fired not just because of this travesty. And I'm hoping… I think we're going to work on a Resolution. We ask you to be cosponsors of that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Representative Riley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"Please state your point, Sir."

"This very vulnerable population that's suited in a place designated by their family and their physician. In my district office I have a plaque on the wall. It's a beautiful plaque and it juxtaposes my picture against some flags and some other things, it was very unexpected. And it came from someone who was from Centralia who applauded me and the efforts of just bringing some clarity and fairness to the whole situation of developmental centers in general and other facilities closing. So, it's a bipartisan issue, but it's also an issue that goes past regions, too and I just wanted to say that. Just real briefly, I've been all over the state dealing with facility closures, my duties on COGFA and one of the things that I have seen is maybe 09800044.doc 112  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 people who would not have concerned themselves with other issues really cared about fairness. And one of the things that I sort of admonished them as they congratulated me, I just told them I was doing my job, for being on their side. I told them in many issues of social justice and service delivery that they have more in common with people who are similarly situated, who live up north, than they thought that they did and understanding that would give them more power. We fought a hard fight. All I wanted to do was to bring sensibility, clarity, fairness and really no lies of obfuscation about this entire process. So, I really feel for my colleagues. I want you all to tell your constituents that I was with them, will continue to be and it is a sad day that what's happening today is happening, but it happens all over the state. And all I ever said to the administration, is let's deal the cards up straight. Let's be fair, let's be clear. So, tell your constituents that there's a lot of people who share their feelings. Thank you."

Speaker Turner: "Representative Dunkin, you’re the last speaker. Could you please state your point as briefly as possible so we can get back to the Order of Third Readings? Thank you, Sir."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I will try my best to respect the time. I, too, would like to share the comments and the sentiments made with those developmentally disabled facilities, some that I've actually been to. It is a very humbling experience to see other human beings, however the young they are, however the older they are, unable to 09800044.doc 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 really clean themselves and brush their teeth, to walk around, to feed themselves. It's extremely humbling and you really see some of our most vulnerable citizens at our beckon call, at our will because we have the ability to play a role, not only in their lives but their families lives and those individuals are there full-time. So, my heart goes out to our brothers and sisters in the southern portion of this state. I'm going to continue to support developmentally disabled communities irrespectful of where it is. This leads to the question of us coming up with a collective approach and figuring out how we address the revenue issue here in this state. And then how we take serious steps of dealing with some of the issues up north as well where, just last night and yesterday, 8 people were shot in the City of Chicago. Gun violence is real there. So, if there are 5 people shot, there are about 20 people… excuse me… 5 people killed there are about 20 people who are shot. It's important for us to really come up with alternative revenue sources to put moneys in afterschool programs and early childhood education and summer jobs. I mean, we are plagued with violence in some of our communities and it's spreading all over. And so, as we take a collective look at some of our most vulnerable citizens in other parts of the state, let's all look at the overall challenge of seeing to it that we can add some value and some resources and making bipartisan decisions on really dealing with some of the other vulnerable communities. Again, I respect the situation that's going on down there and the families and it is sad that… those facilities are 09800044.doc 114  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 closing, very sad, quite frankly. But I'm looking forward to having a revenue dialogue with all of my colleagues and helping us come up with some resolve and really addressing some of the serious problems in the state, especially our most vulnerable population here. Thank you."

"Thank you, Representative. Thank you, Members. Going forward, we'll be using the debate timer on all the rest of the Bills for the rest of the evening. We'll move to a two-minute debate timer, so please be mindful of that when asking questions and making comments. Back to the Order of Third Reading, we have House Bill 996, Representative Lou Lang. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. Compared to the comments that people were just making, this isn't as important as the lives of those people, but I'll proceed anyway and hope to have your attention. First, let me state for the record that this Bill is not gaming expansion. There's no gaming expansion in this Bill. I know sometimes when people see gaming on the board they get all nervous. There's no gaming expansion in this Bill. This is a reorganization of how we regulate charitable gaming. We all know about the Las Vegas nights that lots of different organizations have: the Kiwanis, the Lions Club, the Cancer Society, the Heart Association, lots of church groups. These charitable gaming nights are… are regulated by the Illinois Department of Revenue. The Department of Revenue 09800044.doc 115  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 is overloaded and they do not properly investigate these games. And because they don't properly investigate this… these games and the people running them, there have been games and providers of the services for the games that have not always followed the law. This Bill first and foremost requests that the regulation and the oversight for charitable gaming be moved to the Gaming Board, obviously an organization that has a great deal of knowledge about gaming and how it's supposed to work. It also makes many technical changes, but in no way does this expand gaming in the State of Illinois. So, to make sure that the people running the games are actually giving the money to the charities, to make sure they're not breaking the law, to make sure they're paying the appropriate taxes to the State of Illinois and putting it into the Gaming Enforcement Fund, which is where the money belongs, this Bill comes forth today. And I'd be happy to answer your questions."

"On that, we have Representative Durkin."

"Representative Kosel."

"The… the fee now for the organi… oh, the charitable organizations themselves? No."

"The organizations that do the gaming… the licensees that run the gaming, instead of having a $200 fee every year will have a $400 fee every two years. So, it's really the same."

"Representative David Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you… thank you, Mr. Speaker. A question of the Sponsor?"

"Sponsor yields." Harris, D.: "Rep… Representative, didn't we do this language last year?"

"This Bill came out of committee last year, but was not called on the House Floor, Sir." Harris, D.: "Okay. And the provision dealing with video gaming terminals being included, is that a new provision? Was that included last year or is that a new provision?"

"I believe that was in the Bill last year as well and so, all that really says is that if somebody wants to have one of these Las Vegas nights or charitable gaming nights in a facility that happens to have video gaming, that that would be oaky. Under the law today, it is not okay." Harris, D.: "Thank you."

"Representative Lang to close."

"Would appreciate your 'aye' votes."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 996 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Gabel, Tabares. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 09800044.doc 117  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 65 voting 'yes', 41 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', House Bill 996, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 130, Representative Monique Davis. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 130 amends the Criminal… the Code of Criminal Procedure. It provides that if a first-time offender is charged with a nonviolent offense, the court shall order him or her released on his or her own recognizance unless the court makes a specific finding that a cash bond is necessary to secure the appearance of the person and in addition to any other conditions, the judge may order as a condition of the release his or her monitoring under electronic surveillance as provided in the Unified Code of Corrections. The reason for this is a number of judges are doing this today, but some judges said it was unclear. I think many of you know that in Cook County our jail is 97 percent at capacity. The president of the Cook County Board has stated, we cannot afford a new jail and she is urging, along with others, that those who have no background in criminal behavior, first-time nonviolent offense, that they be released on their own recognizance or electronic monitoring. And I will answer questions if need be."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Reboletti."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Durkin."

"Representative Davis to close." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First of all, a judge can currently consider the background of an individual and they still, with this Bill, he is still urged to do that. What this Bill does it creates a statutory presumption that first-time, nonviolent offenders will be released on their own recognizance which can be overtur… overcome if the 09800044.doc 120  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 court makes a specific finding that a cash bond is necessary. It is not removing the judge's ability to demand a cash bond. It states, if the judge feels a person may not show up, that he certainly has the right to say the person should present a cash bond. I believe that the questions that were addressed in committee have been advanced in this Bill and the purpose is not to say that every nonviolent offender is released on his own recognizance, it is saying that judges can, as they currently do, consider it. They wanted some clarity in the law and this gives them the clarity. It does not remove their ability to charge a bail or set forth a bail; it does not remove that, but it does state that it should be considered if this person has never committed a crime and if that person has committed a nonviolent offense then he or she should have a right to recognizance or electronic monitoring. And I would ask for an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 130 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative… Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 39 voting 'yes', 66 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present', House Bill 130, having failed to receive the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared lost. House Bill 2518, Representative Currie. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Currie." 09800044.doc 121  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. This is an initiative of the Department of Revenue, primarily cleanup language. Changes were made after the Bill was on Second Reading. Let me just quickly run through the provisions: permits the department to accept credit cards for payments beyond the income tax, other kinds of payments as well, increases the amount of money available in the evidence fund. There was a provision that would have enabled the department to charge specific dollar amounts for the preparation of documents for administrative hearing… hearings on property taxes, that language has been since removed. It changes the interest rate paid by the department, refunds that the department owes or deficiencies owed by taxpayers to the underpayment rate established by the Inter… Internal Revenue Code which is three percent. So, it's the same three percent going whichever direction and it would enable the department to charge $100 penalty for those car dealers who do not file a ST-556 Sales Tax Transaction Return. That way the department can keep better track of who owes what and what their tax liabilities are. They had… earlier as I say, been in opposition, but I think by Amendment we have cleared up the… the difficulties. So, I'd appreciate your questions and your 'aye' votes."

"Representative Franks for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. This… for those of you who may recall, this was Representative Zalewski's Bill. He pulled it out of the record. I had a chance to meet with the Department of Revenue to ask if this was the 09800044.doc 122  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 result of the… the Amendment. It is agreed now. I appreciate the Department of Revenue working with Mr. Zalewski and the Majority Leader. It's taken out the cost now for the copying, so it's the same as what the FOIA was. And I now think it's a Bill that we should all support. So, I wanted to make that clear. Thank you."

"Representative David Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I would simply concur with what the previous speaker said. Any confusion regarding the Bill has been cleared up and I recommend a 'yes' vote."

"Thank you. Representative Reis."

"Sponsor yields."

"It is… this is used by car dealers and the… what happens is that the… when forms are late, the department taxes two percent of the income that is reported on the form. If there is no income, if there is no form that is filed, they're unable to… to penalize anybody who is turning in the reform… a form late. So, the $100 charge, it is hoped, would be an incentive for the dealers to go ahead and file on time whether they have taxes due or whether they don't." 09800044.doc 123  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Only car dealerships."

"Representative Currie to close."

"Appre… appreciate your 'aye' votes."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 2518 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Cavaletto, Fortner, Harris. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 71 voting 'yes', 34 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2518, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Sullivan."

"Please state your point, Sir."

"Thank you for the… thank you for the helpful information, Sir. House Bill 2199. Out of the record. House Bill 2659, Representative Will Davis. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill. Mr. Clerk, can you please move House Bill 2659 back to the Order of Second Reading and read the Bill, please."

"Representative Davis on Floor Amendment #2." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment #2 corrects the confusion in the Juvenile Court Act by clarifying that a Juvenile Court finding that a child's placement is necessary and appropriate, joint dependency of a foster parent's administrative appeal contesting the removal of the child from the foster parent does not override the DCFS administrative hearing process. This administrative hearing process is the only due process procedure available to foster parents who have cared for a DCFS ward for more than 60 days and who wish to appeal the removal of the children from their care. That's the basic description of the Amendment. I move for its adoption."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 2659. All those in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, 09800044.doc 125  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Will Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you, Mr. Chair… Mr. Speaker, excuse me. House Floor Amendment #3 also further amends House Amendment #2 by clarifying that relative caregivers are included in the definition of 'foster parent'. This was proposed by the Cook County Public Guardian's office and agreed to by the negotiation parties. There's absolutely no opposition to this legislation. I move for the adoption of the Amendment."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #3 to House Bill 2659. All those in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 2659, Representative Will Davis. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Will Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. The Amendments that were just adopted essentially tells you exactly what the Bill is attempting to do. Be more than happy to answer any questions." 09800044.doc 126  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 2659 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. In the opinion… The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Fortner, Franks. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2659, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Bost."

"Thank you, Representative. Let's hurry and get out of here. House Bill 821, Representative Monique Davis. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr… thank you, Mr. Chair… Mr. Speaker. House Bill 821 with Amendment #3 states that a court shall order a certificate of innocence if a conviction has been vacated as a result of actual innocence based on newly discovered evidence. These claims can be brought under Section 122-1 of the Code of Criminal Procedure or Section 2-1401 of the Code of Civil Procedure. Number 2) if the court also ordered a new trial, the petitioner would have to be found not guilty at the new trial or the case would have to be dismissed without a retrial before the court would order a certificate of innocence. This requirement is 09800044.doc 127  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 set out in the certificate of innocence statute. This Amendment was drafted with the help of the attorneys of the Center on Wrongful Convictions and is intended to help this particular group of the wrongly convicted receive a certificate of innocence without going through an additional civil process. I want to thank Representative Drury and Representative Reboletti for assisting in drafting this Amendment. And I would ask… answer questions."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 821 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 821, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1532, Representative DeLuca. Out of the record. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 756, Monique Davis. Please read the Bill."

"Out of the record. Out of the record. House Bill 2199, Representative Durkin. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Durkin."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 2199 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Gordon, Kosel. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2199, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Davidsmeyer."

"Please state your point, Sir."

Speaker Turner: "Thank you very much, Representative. Representative Roth."

"Please state your point." 09800044.doc 129  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"On that topic, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Feigenholtz."

"…you… thank you, Mr. Speaker. On a point of personal privilege, while we'll be gone, one of our colleagues here will be turning another year. Representative Ann Williams is going to be celebrating a birthday, my district mate. Let's give her a big happy birthday." 09800044.doc 130  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

Speaker Turner: "Happy birthday, Representative Williams. Representative David Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you… thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like the record to reflect that when the vote was taken on House Bill 2518 that I was away from my switch. I would have been… like to be recorded 'yes' on that Bill."

"The record will reflect your request. House Bill 2958, Representative Drury. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Drury."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There's been a lot of talk today about what Illinois does do and doesn't do to bring business to our state. The purpose of House Bill 2958 is to address that issue. It establishes the Economic Policy Planning Commission, which is a short-term commission. It would expire on December 31, 2014 and the purpose would be to have it look into developing a comprehensive policy on how we issue economic development incentives. There's always a concern in this state that the way incentives are handed out is not a fair way, it's not transparent and this would come up… the commission would be tasked with finding uniform policies that small business owners, large business owners, any business owner would know ahead of time of how an incentive is going to be handed out. The reports would be required to be in a form of legislation and the commission members would not be paid for their services. I ask for your 'aye' vote." 09800044.doc 131  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Representative Sente for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I have a couple of questions. You have made some reductions to this Bill, correct? So, we are reducing the amount of public hearings and…"

"Yes. We've… in the Amendment, we reduced the number of pub… required public hearings from three to two."

"And we also… when is the commission meeting in general?"

"The commission is required to meet as directed by the two cochairs."

"Okay. And so, there were some changes that I ask be made to this Bill that there is some flexibility in reduction to the type of research that's done. Are you in agreement that those items will be considered and fixed in the Senate?"

"Absolutely. Right now, the Bill sets out specific things that the commission should put in its report and I'm open to reducing those consistent with the purpose of the commission. But yeah, absolutely."

"Thank you, Representative Drury. To the Bill. This is… I wholly support this Bill. It is an opportunity to look at the economic development in this state, to make some plans for its enhancement, to end that research with a piece of legislation that we can vote on. And I think this is a very good move for Illinois and I support the Bill."

"Representative Pritchard."

"Sponsor will yield." 09800044.doc 132  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Representative, what happened… and I'm not sure what the procedure 'cause I'm so new… this got called. There is an Amendment, that's what Representative Sente was asking me about. The Amendment, I don't know why it did not go back to committee, but I did speak with the chair of the committee to see if it was okay to present it here today and that's why I'm doing it."

"Right now, it's just to talk about economic… a policy for economic development in the state and how the state is going to hand out those incentives."

"But the committee, it's broad enough that if it wanted to go into that in the time frame it certainly could."

"I… I think the committee is, the way the legislation is written, it doesn't limit where it could go. I think what's going to limit it is the time frame we put on it. It's a very short-lived committee with I think a very big task for the state side, but if the committee members and the chairs thought that it needed to look into other issues, I 09800044.doc 133  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 certainly would be open to that if I were on the committee."

"Representative Riley."

"…Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"Representative Drury, there's some numbers on our analysis that said in FY10 the state spent a total of over $313 million on tax incentives for businesses. Now, is that an aggregate figure, all units of government, all over the state, made up that 313 million or was that just from state efforts?"

"My understanding that is the total amount of incentives that were… that were… that the state spent on all the tax incentives that it issued to… to businesses across the state. Does that answer…"

"That… was that the State of Illinois spent or that, for example, one of the previous speakers talked about local 09800044.doc 134  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 initiatives. So, to come up with that figure I was just wondering whether that was local governments were part of that 313 million or was that just the State of Illinois and its departments?"

"My understanding, Representative, is that is what the State of Illinois has used to incentivize business to come to our state, not going down to the local governments."

"Okay. Thank you. Now, to what extent does this… so, let's assume some of DCEO's responsibility, after all, this is a state agency that the preponderance of their, you know, reason for being is to do economic development, keep businesses in the state, so on and so forth?"

"I don't believe I… I believe that this… this commission would be to work in concert with DCEO and to put guidelines in place and to formulate, with DCEO's assistance, what is a plan that everyone in the state could see and businesses could see how do you get these incentives. I know there's been a lot of attacks on DCEO in other legislation, this is not meant to be one of those. This is meant to actually work with DCEO, to have a better… a better plan to uniformly issue incentives throughout the state and that… so businesses know what they need to do in order to be eligible for the incentives and what types of incentives work and what types of incentives don't work."

"Well, one of the things that…"

Speaker Turner: "Representative Riley, please bring your remarks to a close."

"Thank you. I just have one more question. There's a statement here that .7 percent, so less than 1 percent, of 09800044.doc 135  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 the more than 450 thousand corporations filing taxes take advent… take advantages of those tax incentives and we talk about businesses all the time. And one of the things about being a business is having knowledge about opportunities that exist. So, how would you characterize the fact that 99 percent of the businesses aren't taking, you know, advantage of these tax incentives?"

"My take on that, I'd have a couple of responses to that. One, I think that they may be… that some businesses don't know the incentives exist, others may think it's… it's too hard and the process there's too much paperwork. And others may think there's no chance I'm going to get the incentive 'cause only big business is getting them. And that's one of the purposes for having this… setting up this commission."

"Thank you."

"Representative Bost."

"Thank you. Representative Kay."

"Sponsor will yield."

"This commission is going to look at how we… how the state deals with economic incentives. I don't believe workers' comp is within the scope of this commission."

"I'm sorry. Could you repeat the other three?"

"Right."

"This commission is set up, Representative, to… or would be set up to, to deal with… have a uniform policy, a comprehensive policy on economic incentives. It would not focus on those other three… the four areas that you've addressed."

"But certainly… those… those are areas that I think there should be some discussion on." 09800044.doc 137  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"I… my analysis only shows that there's one opponent. I don't know what your analysis is showing, Representative."

"I… I don't… I haven't heard of any of those objections. I don't know what businesses you're speaking of."

"I just haven't heard that."

"Representative Hays."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Absolutely, I have. And that's very important to the commission. There is a provision in there that says that the cochairpersons can appoint such other individuals as they deem may be helpful to the commission. This idea originated with the Civic Federation and I would hope that they would have some ideas of what business people, small and large, would want to participate in this and give us ideas because I think they're going to be the experts on what works and what doesn't work."

"No. The…"

"Yeah. The purpose would be that at the end of the commission to not only file a report but legislation that would implement a uniform policy and a comprehensive policy on the way we deal with economic incentives here in the State of Illinois."

"Representative Ives."

"Representative Will Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Davis, W.: "Representative, as I'm reading the analysis of this commission, it indicates that all the voting members will be elected officials, correct?"

"I believe that's true, yes." Davis, W.: "And so, it also indicates that the commission will be able to appoint nonvoting ex officio members who are not elected officials to this, correct?"

"That's correct." Davis, W.: "So, in terms of who can be appointed of the nonvoting officials, does the Bill set forth who those 09800044.doc 140  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 individuals should be, what sectors they should represent, anything of that nature?"

"No. Right now, the language just says that they are… the cochairpersons may appoint individuals that they may deem helpful." Davis, W.: "So, how would you expect the minority, meaning African-American and for that matter, Latino voice to be represented in this commission?"

"I think there's two ways: 1) there's going to be eight appointees total between the Senate and the House and hope that it would be a representative of the General Assembly and the state. And I would hope that the commission would understand that we're going to develop a comprehensive policy. It's going to make sense to have a cross-section of the state representing the various interests, not only small business, big business, but you know, cultural issues too. And so, I would hope that it would be a very diverse commission that would come up with a comprehensive policy for the State of Illinois not for any one… one part of the state." Davis, W.: "Well, recognizing that, you know, as a freshman Member, and I'm not trying to use that in any derogatory sense, I can assure you that unless sometimes these things are explicitly stated in the Bill that they never happen. So, I would just simply charge that as this Bill moves over to the Senate, assume it passes, that you amend it to include very specific language that talks about the diversity that you hope will be represented that it is 09800044.doc 141  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 represented in the language of the Bill because, you know, I'm sure you've heard many of us talk…"

Speaker Turner: "Representative Davis, please bring your remarks to a close." Davis, W.: "I'm sure you've heard many of us talk about how we're underrepresenting in a lot of things that take place here in the State of Illinois. Our voices are not heard. So, again, unless… unfortunately, unless you put it in the Bill, there's no way that I can expect that to happen. So, I hope you'll consider making those kind of changes assuming this Bill passes and moves over to the Senate."

"I'd absolutely consider that. Thank you, Representative."

"Representative Drury to close."

"Members, as I opened, we need to do something in the State of Illinois to show business that we want… we want business to come to the state. I'm glad to have bipartisan support. There's been a lot of divisiveness this week and I'm glad that, you know, Representatives that there's been some heavy debate with are supporting this Bill. That means a lot to me. And I think that we should show the State of Illinois that we're serious about, in a bipartisan way, of restoring faith in our state and let's bring business back. And I think this commission is a good step in that direction. I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 2958 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members, please record yourselves. Have all voted who wish? 09800044.doc 142  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 68 voting 'yes', 30 voting 'no', 4 voting 'present', House Bill 2958, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, the status of House Bill 11. Sorry. Mr… Representative Bost."

"The record will reflect your request, Sir. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 11, Representative Flowers."

"Representative Flowers, Floor Amendment #4."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Amendment #4… I move for the adoption of House Amendment #4. It's an agreed to Amendment by the credit unions and it deletes the part of the Bill that provides that the state must provide notice of foreclosure to a person receiving unemployment and that… and how they may request the court to enjoin the foreclosure. And it also deletes the part that requires a court to grant the injunction. And I would move for its adoption."

Speaker Turner: "The Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #4 to House Bill 11. All those in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, 09800044.doc 143  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Amendment #5 is a utility Amendment and it makes changes to the utility company. It states that the utility shall give notice and supply information accessible by the Internet about programs that the utility company is currently offering to residential customers. And if the residential customers contact a public utility concerning their financial hardship and ability, they should let them know what type of programs they have available. And I would move for its adoption."

Speaker Turner: "The Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #5. And on that question, we have Representative Reboletti."

"Sponsor yields."

"It adds to the Bill."

"I was about to do that."

"Yes." 09800044.doc 144  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"It re… As far as I'm concerned, it removes all opposition. IRMA is no longer against it. The credit union is no longer against it. The utilities are no longer against it. These are all agreed to Amendments."

"Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #5 to House Bill 11. All those in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Floor Amendment #…"

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you. Floor Amendment #6 states that the… it's… it is also an agreed to Amendment by the Pharmaceutical Practice Act. And it requires that the information on medication and free services or assistant for… the Partnership for Prescription Assistance will be disseminated free at the Department of Unemployment Security and other places. And I move for its adoption."

"Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #6 to House Bill 11. All those in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Currie." 09800044.doc 145  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record show that Representative DeLuca is excused for the remainder of the day."

"The record will reflect your request. Thank you. Mr. Clerk, House Bill #11, Representative Flowers. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is known as the Residential Hardship Program. And there's a lot of programs that we have throughout the State of Illinois that a lot of young people, who are recently unemployed, do not know about. This Bill would put that information in one place and it will require things to happen as far as unemployment, as far as utilities, as far as their prescription medicine and even the information as to how they can stay in their homes. And I'll be more than happy to answer any questions. And in the meantime, I would appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 11 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 73 voting 'yes', 30 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 11, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2695, Representative David Harris. Excuse me. Representative Bost." 09800044.doc 146  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"The record will reflect. House Bill 2695, Representative David Harris. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative David Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is a Bill which actually will help the environment. It's a Bill which requires that 25 percent of fleet vehicles purchased by the State of Illinois, except for State Police patrol cars, be either electric, use liquefied natural gas, compressed natural gas on or after January 1 of 2016, so two and a half years from now. This is consistent with an Executive Order which is already been issued by Governor Quinn and this puts… puts it in statute. I'll answer any questions you might have."

Speaker Turner: "Seeing no debate… seeing some debate, Representative Reboletti."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative Reis."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative Sacia."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Representative Harris." Harris, D.: "Certainly, notice that the legislation says electricity, compressed natural gas, lique… liquid petroleum gas or liquid natural gas. In essence, what I'm pushing for and what I believe in is compressed natural gas. And when we do all this fracking down in southern Illinois, we are going to have bountiful quantities of natural gas. Personally, I believe that natural gas is the way of the future, but we've included a little… included electricity because there are going to be a lot of electric vehicles. But honestly, I don't know how many vehicles are going to be fueled by liquid petroleum gas and there's no requirement here that they be fueled by liquid petroleum gas. There's options as to what can be used."

"Representative Ives."

"Speaker will yield."

"Representative Ives, please bring your remarks to a close."

"Representative Davidsmeyer."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative David Harris to close." Harris, D.: "I think we've had a full discussion. And I would recommend and encourage a 'yes' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 2695 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting 09800044.doc 153  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Costello, Dunkin. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 77 voting 'yes', 26 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2695, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Members, we still have over 40 Bills to get through this afternoon. In an attempt to meet the Third Reading deadline, if you wish to get out of here any time soon, please keep your remarks as brief as possible and vote your switches as quickly as possible. Thank you. Representative Brauer."

"Mo… Body will take a moment of silence."

"Thank you, Representative Brauer. Next, we have House Bill 2606, Representative Mautino. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Leader Mautino."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. 2606, as amended with Floor Amendment 1, reaffirms Illinois's policy that the manufacturers of beer, including out of state brewers, are prohibited from holding distributors licenses or owning ownership interest in a distributorship thereby preventing prefer… thank you so much… I appreciate our other 90 Sponsors, but I do have a couple of pieces of… of legislative intent. For this, if you'll allow us to go through and the reason that is, is when I sponsored Senate Bill 754 in 2011, all of you voted for it and in which, we stated in the debate that all brewers in-state and out of state, may not self-distribute. And the intent was stated to prevent brewery-owned distributorships; however, the Liquor Control Commission, 17 months after the Bill was made law, ruled the legislation was not significantly clear and warranted the conclusion that ownership, directly or indirectly, is unlawful. And they basically ignored the will of this Body. So, what this Bill does, very quickly, is it allows the Associated Beer Distributors to have standing before the Liquor Control Commission. It has them send out in 30 days a survey to find out who has ownership. Those with ownership interest, against our statutes and against our intention of 754, will then need to divest themself. They're given two years to do that. And that's basically the structure of the Bill."

"Rep… Representative David Harris." 09800044.doc 155  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And just some questions of the Sponsor, if I may, for purposes of legislative intent. Will he yield?"

"Sure."

"Yes, he yields." Harris, D.: "Representative, did the Liquor Control Commission base its opinion using the legislative intent stated when Senate Bill 5… 754 passed the House?"

"No, the Commission was stated… stated that the Bill was vague, yet totally ignored the legislative intent in which I stated it was to prevent all brewers from holding a distributor's license or owning a distributorship." Harris, D.: "Thank you. And why should a brewery be prohibited from owning a distributorship?"

"There's one example, a brewery-owned distributorship would have no incentive to sell any other products other than their own beer, simply put, independent Illinois's distributors provide an avenue for craft brewers, new imported brands and new domestic brands to have access to the market." Harris, D.: "And thank you. One final question, does this legislation affect the ability of a small craft brewer to self-distribute?"

"No. The craft brewers who produce less than 15 thousand barrels will continue to have the ability to self- distribute, up to 7,500 barrels of their own beer." Harris, D.: "Thank you very much."

"Representative Leitch."

"Gentleman will yield."

"Sure. In the regulation of alcohol, an independent distributor acts as a buffer between the manufacturer and retailer. That prevents vertical integration in the marketplace and it also helps to prevent overly aggressive marketing practices by a brewer."

"Independent distributors must be based in Illinois, unlike most brewers, who are located out of state, located in a foreign country. In-state distributors provide several benefits to the state such as employment opportunities, economic activity, community involvement, tax collection, preventing counterfeit products and providing the state the ability to quickly and efficienc… efficiently regulate the importation of alcoholic beverages within Illinois's borders."

"Representative Mautino to close."

"Thank you very much. I wanted to thank specifically Representatives Harris and Representative Leitch, 09800044.doc 157  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 Representative Bost, Senators Munoz, and Link who participated in months of discussion to bring this to an agreement by all parties."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 2606 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Monique Davis. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 103 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2606, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Bost."

"The record will reflect your request. House Bill 3061, Representative Ford. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 3061 is a Bill that I've worked on for at least three years. And it simply extends the eligible offenses for the judge to have the discretion to seal certain offenses. I move for the passage of this Bill. And I'm open for any questions at this time."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 3061 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? 09800044.doc 158  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 Representative Brauer, Demmer, Drury, Leitch, Senger. Demmer. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 65 voting 'yes', 35 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3061, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 30… 3120. Would you please read the Bill?"

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 3120, Representative Mautino. Mr… Please read the Bill."

"Representative Mautino."

"Thank you. House Bill 3120 is an initiative of the Department of Natural Resources. It is a land swap, 20 acres for 19 acres. All the paperwork is in on it. Well, actually, we get the 20 acres and we make 1200 bucks. Mr. Franks was concerned about that. I know he is extremely concerned and I think if we… I'd like to ask for an 'aye' vote. And to welcome, I believe, to the chamber, the students of Parkside School, who are above me here on this side. Give them a round of applause. Hey, guys. And please vote 'aye'."

"That was efficient. The question is, 'Shall House Bill 3120 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Acevedo, Ford, 09800044.doc 159  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 Mayfield, Senger, Welch. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 98 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', House Bill 3120, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1682, Representative Dwight Kay. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from Madison, Representative Kay."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 1682 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Lang, Christian Mitchell. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 102 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 1682, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 22, Representative Flowers. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Flowers." 09800044.doc 160  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 22 will require all insurers in Illinois to cover preexposure prophylaxis, a special course of HIV treatment that aim to prevent people from being infected with the HIV. PrEP is also is intended for people at risk of exposure. For example, in the case of a couple where one partner is HIV positive and the other is not, it would protect them. PrEP is also cost-effective and is intervention, it is more cost-effective for an insurance company to pay a thousand dollars a month to prevent HIV infection than to spend to 380 thousand a month to treat a person with HIV over his lifetime. So, I would appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Reis."

"Yes."

"She indicates that she will."

"Well, there is TRUVADA is available right now."

"And it's not a vaccine. It's a prophylaxis treatment."

"The Amendment was put on to remove the word 'vaccine'."

"Yes."

"Pardon me?"

"You know, they're not vac… they're not… It's not a vaccination, you know. It is… according to my information, people that have been exposed to HIV or either a high incident of maybe contacting or contracting HIV, they are encouraged to take it, the medication."

"Well, I do know it's going to be cost-effective. It's going to be cheaper than to treat a person with HIV. So, it depends on the doctor. It depends on, you know, how much the… the medication's going to cost because the more it's used, the less it's going to cost. So, you know how medication the price goes down after a while."

"It's not a vaccine."

"Excuse me, Representative Reis, can you bring your remarks to a close. Your time has expired."

"Representative Flowers to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 22 will reduce HIV in the community. Allowing individuals access to PrEP will reduce the likelihood of a new HIV infection. Also, the promotion of early intervention will reduce the ca… the cost of the care. This… we're trying to save peoples' lives. This is cost-effective. People are paying their premiums, so they should be able to get the type of services in which they need. I would appreciate an 'aye' vote and there is no op…"

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 22 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members, please record yourself. Have all voted who wish? Representative Brady. Martwick. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. Representative Flowers."

"Mr. Speaker, would you please put this on Postponed Consideration?"

"Mr. Clerk, please put this Bill on the Order of Postponed Consideration. House Bill 197, Representative 09800044.doc 163  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 Mayfield. Out of the record. House Bill 2779, Representative Moffitt. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Moffitt."

"Representative Franks for two minutes."

"Representative, I understand what you're trying to do, but is it… I'm a little concerned. Let's assume they have fingerprints on file and let's assume that the person's retired and then they get arrested for something. And then… but then they file a fraudulent affidavit. What's to… that person's going to get hired then under this Bill."

"What's the harm… Here's my question. What's the harm and let's… the fingerprints aren't going to change, obviously, but what's the harm in having the school do the background check?"

"Yeah. 'Cause that concerns me because… I understand the intent, but our world's changing a lot. I mean, I…"

"Okay."

"Yeah. I'd like to… I'd like to allow the schools to do this because the way…"

"Thank you. I don't want it… I don't want them to be prohibited…"

"…from that 'cause that concerns me."

"And we'll work together. Thank you." 09800044.doc 165  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Representative Moffitt to close."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 2779 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative McAsey. Mr. Clerk… Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 86 voting 'yes', 16 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2779, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2330, Representative Ford. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Ford."

"Mr. Speaker, thank you and Members of the House. We had a debate on this Bill already and in the spirit of getting the best Bill for the State of Illinois, I pulled the Bill, put it back to Second and worked with all interested parties. And we've come up with an Amendment and I hope the Amendment will address all of the concerns, so that we can pass this Bill to the Senate for passage for the people of Illinois. What the Bill does is, it allows for noncustodial parents to have the child support suspended during a time of incarceration. There are safeguards in the Amendments 09800044.doc 166  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 for this Bill and I am open for any questions as it relates to the safeguards and why this Bill is necessary."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 2330 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'… Representative Kay."

"Sponsor will yield."

"If they have income, then they would have to pay."

"Yes."

"Thank you."

"Representative Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Does this… does your Bill take into account assets or only income?"

"Assets and income."

"Did the underlying Bill take into account the assets?"

"No."

"Okay. So, now, 'cause if there's someone like a, you know, a Bernie Madoff goes to prison and he had, you know, younger children and he had $10 million in the bank, I'd expect that he would still pay child support, correct?"

"Correct. And that's why I pulled the Bill and in the spirit of cooperation and making the best Bill for the 09800044.doc 167  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 people of Illinois, and we have Amendments #2 and 3 to address all those concerns."

"Okay. Thank you."

"Thank you."

"Seeing no further debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 2330 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative… Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 50 voting 'yes'… Representative Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Please, if you could remand this Bill to Postponed Consideration."

"Mr. Clerk, please move this Bill to the Order of Postponed Consideration. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 3262. Could you read the status?"

Speaker Turner: "Out of the record, Sir. House Bill 2846, Representative Golar. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Golar."

"Mr. Speaker, would you please place that back on Second Reading for me, please?"

"Clerk, please move House Bill 2846 back to the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 2341, Representative Jakobsson. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." 09800044.doc 168  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

Speaker Turner: "Out of the record. House Bill 3035, Representative Jakobsson. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

Speaker Turner: "Out of the record. House Bill 2764, Representative Scherer. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Scherer."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Currently… this is good news, instead of… we are trying to save money. Currently, Illinois requires businesses wishing to display a sign on their own property near the interstate to pay a fee between 50 and 200 dollars. We all want to help employers and jobs in Illinois. Wouldn't it make sense to remove another burdensome fee on businesses? Over the next 20 years, the state expects to spend $16.4 million to control on premise signs. However, this sign regulation has only generated $76 thousand in state revenue over the last 2 years and the Federal Government has stopped paying Illinois to regulate these signs. As we face another round of difficult budget decisions, wouldn't it make sense to eliminate a program that is costing the state and businesses? The National Federation of Independent Businesses is supporting this and I know of no opponents at this time. I ask for your 09800044.doc 169  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 favorable consi… consideration and please vote 'yes' to save money."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 2764 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Brady, Crespo. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 102 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2764, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 963, Representative Moffitt. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Moffitt."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 963 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Monique Davis. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 96 voting 'yes', 5 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', House Bill 963, 09800044.doc 170  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 922, Representative Hurley."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 922, Representative Hurley. Out of the record. House Bill 2816, Representative Manley. Out of the record. House Bill 1243, Representative Kelly Burke. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 1243, Representative Kelly Burke. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Kelly Burke." Burke, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 1243 is the product of a commission… a committee that was authorized by this Body in 2008. It was the Illinois Family Law Study Group. And the group… the committee was put together because we have two statutes to deal with family situations, the Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act and the Parentage Act. And both of those were 09800044.doc 171  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 written a long time ago, the Marriage Act in 1977 and the Parentage Act in the '50s and then 1984. And since that time there have been many changes within the family law arena. And we have… and during that time we have amended it piecemeal and so, there was a move to overhaul these so that we could have a more comprehensive Bill. The committee was put forward in 2008; it was bipartisan with Members appointed by the Speaker, Leader Cross and the Supreme Court. It included lawyers, Legislators, including four Members of this Body: Representative Tracy, Representative Osmond, former Representatives Mathias and Rose. Judges from around the state including Judge Jane Waller from Lake County and Judge William Boyd from Cook, representatives of various government agencies, professors and advocates, all volunteering copious amounts of time to this project. After three years of hearings and meetings all over Illinois, getting input from advocacy groups, bar associations and the like, the drafting committees got to work putting all the ideas into a workable framework for both the Dissolution of Marriage Act and the Parentage Act. Those Bills were filed late last spring. The committee used the summer to get additional input on the concepts in the Bills and take suggestions on revision. The Bills were refiled this Session. We moved forward with the Parentage Act rewrite, which is House Bill 1243 and hope to move the Marriage Act legislation later this year. The Parentage Act was assigned to the Judiciary Committee. We had a subject matter hearing and then two additional committee hearings. The result was some changes to the Bill which is now before 09800044.doc 172  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 you in Amendments 4 and 5. The Bill has been thoroughly vetted and passed the committee… the Judiciary Committee with flying colors. So, after a four-year process, the Bill is before you today. I'm giving you all this history to let you know the exhaustive process that went into forming this Bill and how involved various Members of the Legislature, the Judiciary and all people associated with family law have been. The Bill makes several substantive changes and many technical changes to the Parentage Act. The proposed Bill incorporates provisions for children born to civil unions and children born by assisted reproductive technology. The Acts recognize the societal changes and extends equal rights and responsibilities to both parents while guaranteeing the right of every child to the physical, mental, emotional, and financial support of his or her parents. The Bill is focused on protecting the best interest of the chil… of children. It was supported by the Illinois State Bar Association as well as the Attorney General's Office. I'm happy to answer any questions and I would love your support."

"I just want to remind the Members, we're on a two-minute debate timer that will be strictly enforced. Representative Reis."

"Please state your inquiry, Sir."

"Very strict."

"Sponsor will yield." 09800044.doc 173  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Representative Burke." Burke, K.: "There's a procedure to establish parentage, which has not changed under this Bill. There's always been a procedure to establish parentage. And a biological parent in that situation, that I think what you're saying, they will always have the right to come in and establish their parentage as long as they bring that within two years of when they knew or should have known that… that they were the parent of that child. It is not foreclosed that the… it… we're speaking of a biological father who perhaps was absent for a while, which I think is probably where you're going. If they file an action within two years of when they knew or should have known, they can establish their parental rights."

"Representative Kay."

"Indicates that she will."

"Representative Burke." 09800044.doc 176  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 Burke, K.: "It does not affect the Adoption Act in terms of the mechanics of people going through adoptions."

"Representative Tracy."

"Sponsor will yield."

Speaker Turner: "Representative, I'm sorry. Your time has expired and we have a lot of other people seeking recognition. And we're going to have to move on. Representative Sacia."

"Representative Reis."

"Representative Burke." Burke, K.: "I would just… to that point, I think four years of legal minds who work with these situations every single day and are trying to provide judges and lawyers and families who are in these situations the best framework. And I would defer to their expertise because I think they took… they took input from all sides and then they tried to craft the best thing that they could. I would just want to speak to what a previous speaker said. It's two… it's two years from when a biological parent knew or should have known. It's 09800044.doc 179  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 not two years from the child's birth. It's two years from knew or should have known which gives someone ample time to come in and establish their rights. And in regard to a child trying to determine who their biological parent is, if they didn't know that parent growing up, the child can always do that. There is no limitation on that provision."

"Representative Brauer."

"Representative Reis. No, Representative Bost."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative Bost, one additional question, please."

"Excuse me, Representative?" Burke, K.: "I understand that."

"Leader Lang in the Chair."

"New sheriff in town. Representative Feigenholtz for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Lady yields."

"Representative Burke, an earlier speaker asked you a couple of questions. I realize this is a rewrite of a lot of Acts and you had said that there were some changes in the Adoption Act. And I see from our analysis that there… this is a fairly lengthy piece of legislation with no… nothing underscored in it. So, I have a couple of 09800044.doc 182  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 questions. Regarding a child, a biological child who possibly may want to search for their biological parent, we have a laws in the Vital Records Act and the Adoption Act that provide an opportunity for a confidential intermediary for going to the reg… adoption registry and exchanging medical information and the birth certificate access law… Mr. Speaker."

"Yes?"

"Might you get a little decorum in the chamber. I can't hear myself. Anyway, let me finish. So, I'm wondering if you have made any changes at all to those parts of the Adoption Act?" Burke, K.: "No."

"Or the Vital Records Act." Burke, K.: "Any changes to any of those Acts are technical and where those Acts refer to the Parentage Act of 1984, it's been replaced with the Parent Act… Parentage Act of 2013, technical changes only."

"Might you give me an indication on what pages of this 230-page document this would be on?" Burke, K.: "If you can give me a moment."

"Sure. And also while you're an…"

"We'll extend you an extra minute. Representative Feigenholtz."

"Representative, I really appreciate you looking up the Vital Records Act. I also am wondering if you made any substantive changes or if it was your intent, to make any changes or to impair or prohibit access to those biological relatives that have been in law for over a 09800044.doc 183  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 decade, if that was your intent in changing this law and also the Abandoned Newborn Infant Act? What…" Burke, K.: "So, you've got a couple of parts to that question. There are no references whatsoever to the Abandoned Newborn Infant law and the intent of this legislation was only to address the Parentage Act and any changes to other Acts are purely technical in nature. So…"

"So, adult adopted persons will still be able to have access to all of the statutory items that we have… previously had in statute and there's no intent to impair any of that?" Burke, K.: "None whatsoever."

"Thank you."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, as the Sponsor indicated when we were first in the Judiciary Committee, this legislation was filed last May. We've had numerous subject matter hearings and we… there is some fundamental disagreement with this Bill with… with the… some of the opponents that are listed here, the Family-Pac and the Eagle Forum. But this is a piece… this is a Bi… a statute that has not been really comprehensively looked at in 30 years. And I don't know how long it was before that, but this is a… this is an area where families have changed significantly in the last 30 years. And our laws are not updated to reflect that those very significant changes and I don't… that the… I think that… I can't remember the testimony exactly, but over half of the children in this… in the country are born outside of a 09800044.doc 184  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 traditional two parent, man and woman family. And so, our laws need to reflect that. They need to take account of the changes in society and provide an opportunity for… for a much more modern and 21st century Parentage Act. I think… we… there's been a lot of years of input on this, years of discussion and I think that the Sponsor has brought forth a very excellent piece of legislation to accomplish the goals that I think is important for the state to accomplish. And urge an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Morrison for two minutes."

"Lady yields."

"Lady takes the Bill out of the record. The next Bill is House Bill 2971, Mr. Smiddy. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Smiddy."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Basically, what this Bill does is it expands the Criminal Code of 2012 concerning unauthorized video recordings and live video transmissions from your own residential dwelling to any residential dwelling while you're videoed. So, I'd ask for an 'aye' vote. I'll take any questions."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Cabello, Dunkin, McSweeney, Tracy. Mr. McSweeney. Please take the record. On this question, there are 102 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1463, Representative Golar. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Golar."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would you please move that Bill back to Second Reading?"

"The Bill is on the Order of Second Reading."

"I mean, hold it on Second."

"Okay. You wish not to do your Amendment today?"

"No. I wish not to do it, right."

"Mr. Clerk, please hold this Bill on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 1680, Representative Pihos. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Pihos."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Dunkin for two minutes."

"I'll make it one minute. Representative, you read… and I'm trying to understand… so, we're not requiring inventory of items, state items over… under a thousand dollars? That's what this legislation would do?"

"So, what happens to property that's below $1 thousand, if this legislation were to pass?"

"Well…"

"So, chairs or tables that are below $1 thousand, they would go where?"

"And so, are they to be donated? Are they to be…"

"Okay. So, what would you say is the bulk of state property in terms of office furniture? Is it above a thousand or below a thousand on average?"

"What's the inventory amount or capacity, for that matter, today?"

"So, that's IDOT. This is… this thing is supported by CMS. Is this going to…"

"Okay. So, what do you think is the economic… what's going to be the economic impact with this raising from 500 to 1 thousand?"

"We'll give you an additional minute."

"Okay. So, all right, so, last point. So, Representative Rose… Rosemary Mulligan have this?" 09800044.doc 189  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Okay. Thank… thank you. And just for the record, I miss Representative Rosemary Mulligan, do you?"

"Yeah. Thanks."

"Representative Pihos to close."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Davis, Golar, Harris, Leitch. Mr. Leitch. Please take the record. On this question, there are 70 voting 'yes', 31 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2900, Representative Nekritz. Please read the Bill."

"Hold that Bill on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 3229, Representative Nekritz. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill has to do with school zones and getting people to slow down in school zones. We currently require vehicles to slow down during school hours, but the data from IDOT and the… and from the Chicago Police Department would indicate that most accidents occur a block from a school and are, in fact, after school hours and when… and into the evening. So, this legislation requires the speed zones to be in effect when children are present, whenever those children are present. And I would ask for your support."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Yingling for two minutes."

"Thank you. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"Lady yields."

"I just had a couple questions. Are there any opponents who supports it and how well was this Bill vetted?"

"We're not aware of any opponents, Representative. And I didn't hear the second part of your question?"

"I wanted to know if there were any opponents that supported it and how well was the Bill vetted."

"And what was the second part? I don't… I don't… I'm not aware of any opponents that signed in."

"Okay. All right. No, no, that's fine. That's fine."

"Okay."

"All right. And then also, what about the local control? Why isn't this something that the local community can take care of? Do you exempt Home Rule communities?" 09800044.doc 191  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Representative, there is no Home Rule dealt with here. What happens in the Vehicle Code the state sets the standards for it, but the locals then implement it and enforce it. So the locals can determine where there's a school zone and where there's not a school zone. But if there is a school zone, they have to comply with the State Law in terms of the speed and the time."

"Okay. And then my final question is, are there any costs associated with this?"

"Any?"

"Costs?"

"Well, there would be some changes to the signs, it would be required based on discussion with IDOT and we actually reached out to some of the councils of government as well. We extended the time by which… by and which those signs would have to be updated to reflect the new law to be in 2015 and that seemed to satisfy everyone."

"Okay, great. Hey, I want to thank you for your work on this Bill. I think it's a good Bill and I will support it. And I urge my colleagues to support it as well."

"Thank you, Representative."

"There are still six speakers on this Bill. The Chair recognizes Representative Flowers for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Lady yield?"

"Lady yields."

"Representative, you know they're closing our schools in the City of Chicago, so why would this Bill be necessary?" 09800044.doc 192  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Representative, whether the schools are… where schools are open and this has nothing to do with closing or opening schools…"

"Well…"

"…but where they are open children are being… are being hit by vehicles after hours."

"Well…"

"And that's what we're trying to address."

"Well… but… but they're… the sch… I need to understand exactly what you're talking about because that building, because it's there, it used to be a school, but it's a school no longer. So, I have to protect my constituents, all of them. So, I don't want any of my constituents being charged with violating a school zone and that school is empty."

"Right. So, Representative, it's up to… it's up to the local unit of government, the City of Chicago, to determine where they want to impose a… to set a school zone…"

"Now, does that Bill… does that… is that specifically in your Bill?"

"That's current law and we don't change that."

"So… but you don't address the empty schools? If the City of Chicago do not choose to notice that the school is empty and want to continue because they supposed to have a cameras up there as well. Once again, how do we protect ourselves because technically that is not a school?"

"Well, Representative, there's two things: 1) it is up to your unit of local government to determine where a school zone is established and second, if there's no child 09800044.doc 193  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 there, then there's no restriction, because the Bill is on… the Bill only requires you to observe that speed limit when children are present within 50 feet of the roadway."

"But you said if there's no child there, this is not applicable?"

"Right."

"So, even if it wa…"

"Give you an additional minute."

"Even if it was… so, even if it was a school and it's in the school zone, if there's no child present, there will be no fine?"

"Correct."

"Okay. Thank you very much."

"Correct. Thank you, Representative."

"Mr. Reboletti for two minutes."

"Lady yields."

"It… it does… it does nothing to the school zone itself, Representative. That's up to the locals to determine where the school zone is."

"All it does is said is when there's a child… whenever there's a child present, you have to slow down."

"Yes, Representative, I believe it would."

"And I would think that that's what we would want is for someone to slow down when a child is present."

"Well, Representative, we did work with the sheriff when this Bill was broader, we worked with the Sheriff's Association to set up the mechanisms that we had… the enforcement mechanism that we would have now. And this reflects exactly what is in the law with regard to parks. So, if there's a child present within 50 feet of a roadway at a park, then a slower… a slower limit applies. This… this mirrors exactly that and so, for law enforcement that… because we mirrored that… they seem to think that that enforcement would work… work well for them."

"We'll afford you one more minute, Sir." 09800044.doc 195  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"It depends on whose… whose jurisdiction the roadway is under. If it's IDOT, it would have to be IDOT. If it's… if it's the municipality, it would be the municipality."

"The legislation doesn't have anything specific in it. It would just… it would have to ind… but it would have to indicate where the school zone begins."

"And the speed limit within that school zone."

"Well, Representative, if the…"

"…the change… I believe that there are some school zone signs right now that say between 9… whatever the existing… between 9 and 4. So, that would certainly have to change. And again, we've given everyone 'til 2015 to be able to make those changes."

"Those would stay because that's… that would be the current state of the law, correct." 09800044.doc 196  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Correct."

"Representative Monique Davis for two minutes." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Lady yields." Davis, M.: "Representative Nekritz, you said it's from 7 a.m. until 9 p.m. Is that correct?"

"No, Representative. We took that out of the Bill. And we made it that the school… the slower speed applied when children are present within 50 feet of the roadway." Davis, M.: "So, how does one know if children are present, if they're inside the building and you're coming home from work? How do you know children are still in that building?"

"Representative, I think that that would not apply in that instance. It would be if they're… if they're outside within 50 feet of the roadway." Davis, M.: "To the Bill, Mr. Speaker. I know that this is a well-intentioned Bill. In the district that I represent, there are schools everywhere you turn. They may be opened; they may be closed, either they're nursery schools or they're elementary schools or they're high schools. What we should do is teach our children how to cross the street. Maybe that would be a mandate. Children need to be told to cross at the corner, cross at the light. All of a sudden we're going to say that people are fined $300, $150. You know, it sounds like somebody just wants to make money off of people who are working in Chicago. And it's a disparity 09800044.doc 197  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 because in the suburbs there may not be a school for blocks. In downstate, there may not be a school for miles, but in Chicago there's a school this way, there's a Catholic school, there's a charter school, you know. So, if you want us all to drive 20 miles an hour, let's just say that. Let's just say this city you drive 20 miles per hour. But I am not going to vote, and I love you dearly, but I am not going to vote to punish the people who drive and go to work in Chicago, who don't know if children are going to run across that play lot or not. Kid runs across the play lot to get a ball. He's not in the street, but because he was present I'm going to charged $300. There's something wrong with that picture. Let's stop talking about…"

Speaker Lang: "Representative Davis, I'll give you an additional minute." Davis, M.: "…you. Let's stop talking about mandates when we need to teach our children something. I'm sorry about the statistics you gave. It says to me we don't have patrol boys anymore. We don't have policemen to help children across the street. Some places have adult crossing guards, but our children should be taught how to cross the street, otherwise it's very dangerous. I urge a 'no' vote."

"Mr. Cabello for two minutes."

"Representative Pihos for two minutes."

"Lady yields."

"The… the only time you're required to slow down is between the hours of 7 a.m. and 4 p.m. on school days. And so… and… but the data showed that they… that the greatest number of accidents that hap… in fact, happen outside those hours."

"I think that… the law would apply."

"Sure."

"Representative Welch for two minutes."

"Mr. Speaker, will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"To the Bill. I want to begin by first thanking the Sponsor for bringing this important legislation. I think this legislation puts students and children first. And I think this legislation will save lives. In addition to being a State Legislator, I'm a parent and a school board member. I've served on a school board since 2001. We have three high schools all on major thoroughfares. We've seen cars come barreling through there on a daily basis at all times of the day. In my 12 years on the school board, several of our students have been hit by cars. I hate getting e-mails early in the morning from our superintendent because it's typically about a student who 09800044.doc 200  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 has been hit by a car. Nearly a thousand children are hit by cars and seriously injured every single year in the City of Chicago. It is tragic when any student is seriously injured or killed. It's also a very big deal for the school. It affects not only the student but their friends and other students. It is, again, that is an extremely disruptive event and it is profoundly a sad event. For me, as a school board member and now as a State Legislator, students getting hit by cars doesn't just raise feelings of sadness, it also raises questions of responsibility. What can I do to make schools safer? What can we do as a Body to make schools safer? We can do that by approving this legislation here today. Reducing vehicle speeds is a prudent policy that reduces the risk to children by slowing cars. Slower cars are less likely to hit children and if they do, the accidents may be less severe. I believe it is all of our responsibilities and this Legislature should…"

"Please complete your remarks, Sir."

"It's all of our responsibility to take this seriously, protect children's lives. Let's put children first and adopt this legislation today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Mr. Hays for two minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, if… if… if they're not within 50 feet of the roadway, then I would say yes that the reduction in speed limit would not apply."

"I think that's right. But if… but… so, Representative, let me…"

"No, I understand. So, it… but… but if the child has to cross the street, then they're going to be within 50 feet."

"It doesn't matter where the school is."

"Right."

"So, Representative…"

Speaker Lang: "Representative Nekritz, can complete her response and we'll give Mr. Hays one additional minute."

"And I'm struggling with why there would be a school zone in that situation anyway because if there's no child to be…"

"…walking or crossing the roadway, why would the local unit of government establish a school zone?"

"Because it's completely up to them to establish the school zone. It's completely up to your locals…"

"…to set the school zone."

"But Repre…"

"Yeah. So, Representative, your locals would have to establish that there is a school zone and it has nothing to do with where the school is, it's whether the child is within 50 feet of that… of the roadway within that school zone."

"So, I'm not sure I'm… I mean, again, it doesn't matter where the school is, it matters where the school zone is."

"And I would think they would have that same concern today. If nobody's crossing the roadway, why would they need a school zone?"

"Mr. Sullivan for two minutes."

"Mr. D'Amico for two minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Brauer for two minutes." 09800044.doc 205  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"There's only one more speaker, Sir. So, we'll get… let's do… let's recognize Mr. Brady for two minutes."

"Representative Nekritz to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This… I appreciate the remarks from the speakers who talked about the fact that 09800044.doc 206  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 this is about children's safety. That's exactly what this is about. And it isn't 'cause we're not just reacting to an incident or a hunch that this might protect children more. We actually have data to show that the most number of accidents occur outside of school hours and outside of the hours by which current State Law requires drivers to slow down. So, we know we can do the right thing and we know it's data-based and evidence-based. I would ask for your support."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have… have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 90 voting 'yes', 11 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2536 is Mr. Sims' Bill. It will be handled by Mr. Pritchard. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Pritchard."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is 09800044.doc 207  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 102 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 570… Excuse me. House Bill 1463, Representative Golar. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Golar on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Amendment gives some clarification in regards to the ownership of the evidence in regards to the closure of a lis… of a liquor store. And instead of saying that the commissioner believes, the word is pure evidence based on crime."

"Lady moves for the adoption of the Amendment. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Golar."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill is an initiative of the mayor and also the liquor commissioner. This has been a… an issue in my community for quite some time. And I had talked to the mayor about a year ago and of course, after much 09800044.doc 208  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 discussion, he decided that he would have the commissioner look into the matter. And so, what we're doing today is that we… I am asking this Body to have an opportunity to address the liquor stores only in Chicago. There is some opposition. There was opposition in regards to this particular measure; however, we feel that we have neutralized most of those opponents. And what this Bill does, right now, if there is evidence of crime around a property, the current law states that the… the licensee… the establishment will be closed for 7 days. What we're asking, because of the issues surrounding many of our liquor stores in Chicago, we're asking for an additional 30 days to allow the corporation counsel along with the licensee to prove his innocence along with looking at cost for service, looking at the deleterious impact of those liquor stores and also looking at the community input in regards to this. I will be happy to take any questions. And ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Sullivan for two minutes."

"Representative Flowers for two minutes."

"Thank you, Madam… Mr. Chairman. Will the… Mr. Speaker, would the Lady yield?"

"Lady yields."

"Representative, is this applicable only to your district?"

"No, it's not applicable to my district. I said I spoke to the mayor in regards to what was happening in my community and based on that, we wrote up this measure."

"Well, to the Bill. Respectfully, Representative, I would have to vote 'no' on this because unfortunately so many people are out of a job now and specifically in our community. And there's so many small businesses that's trying to do right thing on the inside of their business and they have no control as to what goes on, on the outside. And unfortunately, our districts are right next 09800044.doc 210  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 door to each other or close proximity and I think it's unfortunate that businesses are trying to move in to expand and to create jobs. And as the previous speaker spoke and said that if a business person ordered some supplies and within 30 days the commissioner could come and close his doors, he or she is still responsible for those bills; he or she is still responsible for paying the employees that work for him or her. So, once again, respectfully, I would have to vote 'no'. Thank you."

"Mr. Franks for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, isn't it true that right now the liquor commissioner can close a store for 7 days?"

"Yes, without hearing or notice."

"So, all you're doing is expanding it for some time in order for them to be able to create the paperwork they need for their case, correct?"

"That is correct."

"How many liquor establishments do you have in your district?"

"Possibly 60."

"You have 60?"

"Sixty liquor stores."

"For a population of 110 thousand?"

"That's correct."

"What… what's the av… do you know what the average is in some other districts around the city for liquor stores?" 09800044.doc 211  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"I really don't know, but they will be very minimal in regards to what is happening in Englewood."

"And what is the result, in your opinion, of this proliferation of liquor stores concentrated in your district?"

"Well, it certainly… when I went to the mayor, I asked if he wanted to improve the public safety of individuals that he needed to look at the liquor stores as having a very negative impact on the public safety of the residents in Englewood."

"When you came to talk to me about this last year, you were indicating that the real problems you had in your area because of these stores."

"Correct."

"And that's why you're doing this. Right now, they can close them up, but they… it hasn't fixed it because they haven't closed it for enough time for the commissioner to be able to do his job. Is that correct?"

"That is correct."

"To the Bill. This is not the sort of Bill that I typically sponsor or vote for. But the Lady has a very unique situation in her district where there's 60 liquor stores which is just making it very difficult for the residents of her district. She needs the help to protect her citizens in her district. This is not an onerous regulation. This is an existing regulation where she's simply extending it for a short amount…"

"Give you an additional minute, Mr. Franks." 09800044.doc 212  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"…for a short amount of time in order for law enforcement to be able to do their work. This is the kind of Bill that we ought to support and if it doesn't work, we're able to be… we should repeal it. But let's give the Lady an opportunity to help protect her district like we've done for so many others here. This is not onerous; it's necessary. And I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Christian Mitchell for two minutes." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I rise in support of this measure. I want to commend Representative Golar in what she's trying to do here. In my community, we have several liquor stores which have been eyesores for quite some time and which do not have the kind of disincentive they need to be responsible businesses in our community. If… I agree with Representative Franks. If we look up and find that this is not a measure that's working, it's something we should reconsider, but for now you've got folks who willfully continue business practices which promote negative activity in our community, that promote gang activity and violence and this is a tool to address that. I strongly urge an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Mautino for two minutes."

"Thank you, Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I do rise in opposition. I respect what the Lady's intention is; however, as a broad practice, we are giving a… the commissioner four times the length of time he can close someone without notice. Right now, if there's a wish to make a 30-day closure, then they can go ahead and they can offer a hearing. They can give written notice of the 09800044.doc 213  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 complaints so there are some options. If they need to put more people on the job to actually get their investigations done, they should do that. The ability to drive someone's business to zero in the course of a 30-day period, when they have not had the right of due process, is simply wrong. And I'd ask for a 'no' vote."

"Mr. Reboletti for two minutes."

"Representative Evans for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I've worked, before I came to the General Assembly, with a local elected official in Chicago, 8th Ward the City of Chicago and we tack… tried to tackle businesses like this, liquor stores that attract these issues and it takes months and sometimes years, meeting after meeting. We involve our community in trying to address these issues. But many times the community is left with the business with the same type of issues that were there before. We need to send a message to the businesses and also let them know that we want them to partner with local communities to address these issues. The same problem's going on in Representative Golar's district is going on in my district. And I think this Bill does a good job of just sending the message to them that it's not just for the… what you're doing is a nuisance to the community. We want to work with you and partner with you in these various communities. Some of our communities have challenges, challenges other communities don't have so we ask your support so we can get some of these things together. So, thank you."

"Representative Golar to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank the Members of this Body in regards to their comments. I do want to say that I work on the drug and gang house enforcement section for the past 15 years with the Chicago Police Department in regards to drug and gang house 09800044.doc 215  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 buildings and also liquor stores. In the… many of my… of the comments made by many of my colleagues stating that you do this without notice, no, we do not do it without notice. These individuals that are shut down they actually have been… had decease and desist orders by the police department. There are individuals on… they work… these liquor stores are a part of the Chicago Police Department businesses. They come to captains meetings; they're put on notice. They actually have hearings with the community. So, these individuals that are shut down they have had before some type of communication with the police in terms of what they are doing. And also, during that period of time of the 7 days presently which is in law no one is trying to close a business establishment because we do understand that businesses are very important to every community. However, in many of the liquor stores in my area, where all of the loitering, the drug sales, the full reign of people running in and out, the impact that it's having on the community, we need to do something about it. And so, the commissioner's only asking one thing, without notice or hearing it is 7 days. He is actually… actually asking for an additional 23 days to have a corporation counsel do a more thorough investigation, to have the licensee prove his innocence and to look at other things such as inside the store with probably violations and we could go on and on. Now, I could, in fact, based on the… many of the opponents saying that they oppose this Bill, I could pull it out of the record or I could, in fact, put it for a vote. This is an initiative of the mayor. I've been working on this for 09800044.doc 216  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 over a year. We've tried to improve on it. And I would ask for a 'yes' vote."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Dunkin. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 52 voting 'yes', 49 voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present'. The Chair recognizes Representative Golar."

"Postponed Consideration, Mr. Speaker."

"It will be placed on the Order of Postponed Consideration. The Chair recognizes Representative Kosel."

"Please proceed."

"Welcome to Springfield. Happy to have you here. Mr. Bost."

"You still do have some people left over there, right?"

"All right."

"House Bill 2783, Mr. Sacia. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Sacia."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Bost."

"It's good legislation? The Chair recognizes Mr. Mautino on a… on a point."

"Wasn't… I wasn't seeking recognition, but vote 'aye'."

"Mr. Durkin for two minutes."

Speaker Lang: "That was eggcellent. Mr. Clerk, I want the rolling of my eyes in the record. Mr. Reboletti for two minutes."

"I hope not, but I think he will."

"Mr. Sacia moves for the passage of apparently his first Bill. Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Hammond. Representative Hammond. Please take the record. On this question, there are 98 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Mr. Franks."

"A parliamentary inquiry, two questions?"

"Ple… please proceed, Sir. Yes, we still have a quorum. What's your second question?" 09800044.doc 219  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"That wasn't my question, but nice try, Carnac. There was one question I'd like to know. If… if perhaps we could consider doing an Agreed Bill List, maybe when we do the Senate Bills? That was number one. But number two, we have a tradition here with a Century Club, but now that we have a hundred people here, I'm wondering, could we lower the requirement on a percentage basis to 86?"

"Thank you for your comment, Sir. Would you…"

"It was a question."

Speaker Lang: "You'll have to take that up with a higher authority. House Bill 3035, Representative Jakobsson. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill for a third time."

"Representative Jakobsson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Committee Amen… 1 is the result of the discussions between IEMA, OMB and the Comptroller's Office. The Amendment changes the name of the Disaster Relief Fund to the Disaster Response and Recovery Fund. Suggested name comes from OMB and the Comptroller's Office. It will help eliminate certain audit findings that continue to occur in IEMA regarding this fund. And this 09800044.doc 220  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 will help IEMA disburse funds as they are needed. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Burke, Ford. Kelly Burke. Please take the record. On this question, there are 98 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2962, Mr. Drury. Please read the Bill."

"No running, Sir. Mr. Drury on the Bill."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House 20… House Bill 20… House Bill 2962 is an initiative of the Department of Insurance. It simply allows… it increases the civil penalty for insurance companies that are found in violation for… found in violation where they bring improper claims. It raises the penalty from 250 thousand to 375 thousand. On the issue was a lot of opposition, we took care of most of it. I think there's… there's still one company… one interest to property casualty that are in opposition. Otherwise, we've taken care of that. I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Those buttons are right in front of you, Members. Please take the record. On this question, there are 78 voting 'yes', 20 09800044.doc 221  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2411, Mr. Hoffman. Please read the Bill."

"Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 2413, Mr. Hoffman? Mr. Hoffman, 2413? Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. This is a simple Bill. It requires… it requires the prohibition against using a wireless telephone while operating a motor vehicle and makes it apply to phones that require only a single button press if they are in a work zone. House Amendment #1 creates the sixth exemption for the use of electronic communications devices as integrated to the motor vehicle that allows for communication without the use of either hand."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. On that question, the Chair recognizes Mr. Franks for two minutes."

"Hope this is on Standard Debate, Mr. Speaker. Representative, will this Bill… is your intention to disallow the use of cell phones while driving?"

"No. This is simply for… no. It is al… it is already… you can't use a… use a cell phone in a work zone. We all know all of the tragedies that have occurred in work zones where people are distracted and they kill workers or they… 09800044.doc 222  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 they run into other vehicles. This simply says the ones… the single button press to initiate or terminate communications can also not be used in a work zone. But it… it…"

"What happens if you're on the phone before you get to a work zone and you're driving and then you come upon a work zone, but you're in the middle of your conversation, both hands are on the wheel, you're at 10 and 2, and I've got my earphone in or my Bluetooth device, am I breaking the law?"

"That currently is prohibited."

"Even if you start it ahead of time? If you… okay."

"Currently, that's… under current law, it's prohibited."

"So, what does this Bill do differently?"

"What this says is, apparently there was an exempt… exception that I think was… was simply a… probably just was missed when… when the previous law was passed. The exemption was that you could use… you could use a single button press to initiate or terminate communications. But you still can't use or talk in a work zone on a telephone that we outlawed that with the D'Amico Bill, I believe, several years ago."

"So, what is… what is the single-button issue come in then? Was it just a drafting error you're telling us or was it…"

"That's what I believe, yes."

"Okay. So, this is only… this Bill then only applies to work zones?" 09800044.doc 223  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Yes."

"Okay. Nothing else?"

"Yes."

"That's what I was trying to figure out. Okay. Thank you."

"Mr. Reboletti for two minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yeah. And…"

"It's… what this Bill does is it simply says that it prohibits in work zones the single… the single button for a voice communications press wireless devices. We all… we already have said that you can't talk on a cell phone, but for some reason that was… that was still allowed."

"Except there are a few exemption… exceptions. If you're engaged in highway or construction maintenance, if you're doing… if it's emergency… for emergency purposes, if you're law enforcement, those would be the only exceptions."

"Yes, if you're driving."

"If you're driving."

"There being no further debate, Mr. Hoffman to close."

"I ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Sullivan, Yingling. Mr. Sullivan. Mr. Sullivan. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 59 voting 'yes', 37 voting 'no', and 2 voting 'present'. And the Chair recognizes Mr. Hoffman."

"Postponed, please."

Speaker Lang: "The Bill will be placed on the Order of Postponed Consideration. The Chair recognizes Mr. Bost." 09800044.doc 225  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"House Bill 576, Representative Golar. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Golar on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. House Bill 576, I would like to table… withdraw Amendment #2 and Floor Amendment #3 becomes the Bill."

"Repre… Representative, Amendment 2 is still in committee, so you don't have to do…"

"Okay."

"…anything with it. You can proceed on Amendment 3…"

"Okay."

"…as soon as the Clerk…"

"So, Amendment…"

"…soon as… as soon as the Clerk reads it. Mr. Clerk."

"Okay."

Speaker Lang: "Oh, you've already read… All right. Please proceed, Representative."

"Amendment #3 actually gives notice. This particular Bill is an agreement between Aqua Water, American Water and 09800044.doc 226  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 the ICC. There was some issues in regards to notification of rates and this particular Amendment actually spells out what the ICC should do in regards to water rates."

"Lady moves for the adoption of the Amendment. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Golar on the Amendment… on the Bill."

"Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This is an important piece of legislation. This is an initiative of Billie Paige. There was some irregularities in rate hikes in her subdivision which actually addresses over 15 thousand residents in that area. And there was some heated discussions in regards to what she was trying to do in terms of putting regulatory measures in regards to Aqua Water and American Water. In the end, of course, we have an agreed Bill. As I said, this particular Amendment 3 is the Bill and it actually gives all of the regulations as to what should go on with any utility in regards to raising rates. And I would urge an 'aye' vote."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Bost for two minutes."

"Representative Golar to close."

"Thank you, Representative Bost. Everyone has their opinion; however, as you know, in today's… I would say in terms of utilities, whether it's water, whether it's sewer, whether it's Peoples' Gas, I think proper notification is important. This is what this Amendment does. These… this particular subdivision may or may not have had their voices heard in regards to this. They… they felt that the rates that were given to them were almost… went up almost three to four hundred percent. Some may say that there's nothing wrong with that, rates go up or whatever, but however, we do have agreed language. The ICC wrote up the language and it is built around notification. And I think that's important for individuals today when people are trying to make their incomes level out so that they can have a better quality of life. And I would urge an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Brady, Davidsmeyer, Mayfield. 09800044.doc 228  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 Please take the record. On this question, there are 75 voting 'yes', 22 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3372, Representative Senger. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Senger. Did you say out of the record? Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 2879, Mr. Ford. Please read the Bill."

Speaker Lang: "Mr. Ford, before you proceed, the Chair recognizes Mr. Bost."

"And the record will so reflect. Mr. Ford on the Amendment."

"Thank you. The Amendment simply gives the detailed time for which the General Assembly should report the findings of the task force."

Speaker Lang: "Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk." 09800044.doc 229  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And without a long debate or long explanation, we all know that violence is a real problem in our society. So, what House Bill 2879 does it's… establish a task force and what it does it brings the state agencies together. And it brings the Department of Public Health, it brings the African-American Family Commission, and the Illinois Department… I'm sorry… the Illinois Latino Commission to work together on violence prevention in the State of Illinois. What the goal is to make sure that we bring the mental health community together and all neighborhoods so that we can provide the resources necessary for all neighborhoods when it comes to violence… to prevent violence in the State of Illinois. And I ask for a 'yes' vote."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Currie, Feigenholtz, Franks. Please record yourselves. Representative Feigenholtz. Please take the record. On this question, there are 60… 90 voting 'yes', 6 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Mr. Sullivan." 09800044.doc 230  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"House Bill 2776, Mr. Moffitt. Please read… 2776, Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Moffitt."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Bost."

"Representative Ives for two minutes." 09800044.doc 232  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Gentleman yields."

"Mr. Costello for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. The Fire Service brought this idea to us. This is a good piece of 09800044.doc 233  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 legislation; it's common sense. It's equity across the board. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Willis for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. As a wife of a career firefighter, I commend the Fire Service for bringing this Bill. I thank Representative Moffitt for supporting it and sponsoring it. And I urge an 'aye' vote. I've had too many friends in the Fire Service that have been injured by accidents caused by no seatbelts. Please vote 'aye' on this Bill."

"Mr. Moffitt to close."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Davidsmeyer, Dunkin, Franks, Tracy. Representative Tracy. Please take the record. On this question, there are 89 voting 'yes', 5 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Mr. Bost who is probably going to tell us Representative Tracy's not here."

"Thank you."

Speaker Lang: "And… and Representative Will Davis with an important announcement." 09800044.doc 234  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 Davis, W.: "Yes, Mr. Speaker, can I declare myself excused for the rest of the day?"

"You may, Sir. You can go in Mr. Sullivan's car." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much."

"Chair recognizes Mr. Ford."

"Mr. Speaker, I just… because I'm still new, I just wonder what's a quorum for the Body?"

"Sixty votes, Sir. We're sti…"

"No, I mean, and to have in the Body to do business."

"Sixty, Sir."

"Sixty?"

"We're still good to go."

"All right. I just wondered."

"Thank… hang around a while. House Bill 1040, Mr. Tryon. Please read the Bill. You still here, Sir? Yes, you are."

"Mr. Tryon on the Amendment."

Speaker Lang: "Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Amendment. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Tryon."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? D'Amico. Please take the record. There are 90 voting 'yes'… all 90 of us voted 'yes'… 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 804, Representative McAsey. Please read the Bill."

"Representative McAsey."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. This is an initiative of the Cook County State's Attorney's Office. 09800044.doc 236  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 It is a parity Bill. It changes the definition of 'sexual penetration' to allow for latitude in charging cases regardless of whether a victim is male or female. I'll answer any questions."

"Lady moved for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor say… vote 'yes'; opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Brady, Evans, Pihos, Tryon. Brady, Tryon. Please take the record. On this question, there are 90 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3215, Mr. Reboletti. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Franks for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just want to point out that now every Bill is going to require a Supermajority; it'd be 09800044.doc 237  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 two-thirds of those are going to have to vote to make this happen. So, Mr. Reboletti, by changing this instead of per case… I'll wait 'til you're ready, Mr. Reboletti."

"Mr. Reboletti, Mr. Franks would like to ask you a question."

"The… the effect of this change, should it go into effect, would be that instead of getting a fee on a per case basis instead you'll be able to do it on a per offense basis, correct?"

"So, if there's three charges on a case, you'd be able to get fees on each offense instead of on just one case?"

"That's what they do now."

"So, what you're trying to do is to be able to collect more fees on the same charges, but be… by classifying them as individual offenses instead of that one case, you'd be able to double or triple the amount of fines that you get for DuPage County?"

"And how much money would this raise for your county?"

"But it's a substantial amount of money otherwise you wouldn't be here?"

"Please proceed for one additional minute, Sir."

"Thank… thank you. To the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, what this Bill would do is not increase any public safety issues nor would it change the definitions. What this Bill is solely designed to do is to raise fees. So, understand, that this is done solely to raise fees. There's no argument for additional services or additional things being done. This is simply to take more money. I'll be voting 'no' and I'd encourage you do the same."

"Representative Flowers for two minutes."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, will the Gentleman yield?"

"Gentleman yields."

"Representative, retroactively… so, that means the cases where that's been before the courts you're going to go back and get the moneys from these people?" 09800044.doc 239  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"I'm sorry?"

"Well, no. According to our analysis, it says the Bill clarifies the legislative intent of current law. So, that it applies retroactively."

"The Bill will be taken from the record. House Bill 2473, Mr. Reboletti. We'll give you another chance. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Franks for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Gentleman yields."

"Representative, see for… under your legislation, in order for a judge to issue a body attachment, will their first have to be issued a citation to discover assets?"

"I… I get that. But I want to know the procedure of it. Are you starting with the body attachment should the payment not be made or are you doing the other procedural safeguards…"

"…that most other debtors have?"

"I'm not su… okay. Let's look at this on the… let's look at the legislation as it's written. As it typically happens when… when a sum of money is owed and there's a judgment, a citation to discover assets is issued and let's assume the defendant blows off that court date and does not show. And then a rule to show cause is issued, a rule to show cause to why they should not be held in contempt, and that is issued and that is served upon the individual. So, the individual will not show up for the rule to show cause, at that time then the judge in his discretion or her discretion can then issue the body attachment, correct?"

"Okay. But what you're doing here is… let's assume there's a notice of a rule to show cause… are you requiring that there be service, personal service, on the rule to show cause on the individual who allegedly owes the debt?"

"Oh, no, who does owe the debt, not allegedly, who does owe the debt?"

"Now, what I'm… if you read subsection (d), it says the first order issued pursuant to the body attachment would be a bond in the sum of no more than $1 thousand."

"Oh. Now, typically, when a body attachment is entered, the judge would only require a 10 percent of that bond. Is that you're in… 'cause when I… when I've seen them in court, the judge will say a hundred bucks and they'll have to post a hundred. Here, are you requiring someone to post a thousand dollars for the first time?"

"Mr. Franks…"

"…could you bring your remarks to a close, Sir."

"Right now, if someone does not appear for child support, what are the penalties?"

"Most like…"

"There's a monetary judgment?"

"Okay. Now, don't… aren't there procedural safeguards right now indicating the, for instance, if someone does not pay, that you could take that person driver's license; you can take that person's professional license?"

"Okay."

"Listen, I get what you're trying to do. I just… I'm trying to figure out why they don't have this already? I understand and in any other situation where there's a debtor who fails to continuously appear, that you would get the body attachment. Are you telling me that that is prohibited under the law at this time?"

"Mr. Franks…"

"So, it's a clarification?"

"Okay. Thank you."

"Thank you. Representative Monique Davis for two minutes." 09800044.doc 244  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Davis, M.: "Representative, did you say that you cannot incarcerate a person because they owe child support?"

"Take another minute, complete your remarks." Davis, M.: "I'll try, thank you. And it shows that you are doing what's best for society, but actually what you're doing is increasing the taxes that people have to pay. If a person doesn’t have any money, if they're just released from prison, and you bring them into court, you haul them into jail, that is costly to the taxpayer. And we… and we must be held responsible for the effects of these Bills we pass because the effects are helping to put this state in a deficit."

"Mr. Ford for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"Gentleman yields." 09800044.doc 246  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Representative, I know that you have a Bill here and to a certain degree, I like the Bill because we believe that we should make people responsible when they can pay. And what happens if a person is incarcerated and they're failing to pay their child support? What do you do then?"

"No, no. I said if they're already incarcerated and they're breaking the law because they're not paying their child support while they are locked up?"

"Excuse me?"

"No, they're locked up for a nonviolent offense, a drug case, but their child support…"

"…but the child support continues to go up. So, they're breaking the law."

"So, your… your goal here is to make sure that if a person is out of jail and capable of paying, they should pay, right?" 09800044.doc 247  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"So… so, the goal is, if a noncustodial parent has the ability to pay, they should pay?"

"If they have no ability to pay and they cannot pay and they will not be locked up?"

"We'll give you an additional minute, Sir."

"Mr. Reboletti, I think that to me, I think, this is a good Bill because I want to protect the mothers, the non… the custodial mother if the father can pay. But we're going to need your help to make sure that it works out both ways. Right now, the Department of Children and Family Services says that it takes $15 thousand per month to administer the costs for uncollectable child support. Now, I'll tell you, if a person can't pay, then they should not be locked up for not being able to pay. And if they're locked up, then we know they can't pay; therefore, the price and the cost should not continue to add up. Therefore, I'm going to 09800044.doc 248  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 support your Bill because it's the right thing to do because if a parent can pay, they should pay and they should meet with the mother of their child to say that they can't afford to pay. But I want to make sure that you understand that we have to work together on the Bill when a person is locked up to not… and they cannot pay, that they be given reprieve until they're released."

"I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Flowers for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative Reboletti, you had mentioned earlier about a body attachment?"

"Okay. Did we… does the debtor's court or the debtor's law have anything to do with this Bill? Would it be applicable?"

"I guess that… that… that concerns me because you said some of the judges are interpreting. So, is it or is it not for a person that cannot afford to pay?"

"Does… is the language not clear in the law as to what is and what is not applicable to the debtor?"

"Well, I…"

"And I understand exactly what it is that you're trying to say… trying to do and like Representative Ford said I, too, would want the people who can afford to pay, but unfortunately, Rep…"

"Please take one more minute."

"Unfortunately, Representative, there are so many people who are locked up because they are poor. Rich people are not locked up. Rich people will not be hauled into 09800044.doc 250  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 court. They will find a way to get around it or pay their way out of it. So, respectfully, because this… this does have an effect on the state budget, it should be a fiscal note applied to this legislation. There should be a juduc… I'm sorry… a judicial note also applicable to this legislation because it does have an impact on the economy and it does have an impact on the effects of this budget. I respectfully will have to vote 'no'. Thank you."

"Mr. Martwick for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill and I'll be brief. I spent the first year of my practice as an attorney in the Cook County State's Attorney's Office, specifically in the child support enforcement unit. The issuance of a body attachment, as it pertains to a civil proceeding for an order of contempt, is one of the most effective ways to enforce child support orders. And this is very important. And I would ask the Representative that spoke before me, this is only upon a showing and you talked about people who are unwilling to pay, a civil order of contempt can only be an issuance or can only be a finding of contempt when the judge must find that there was an order, that the defendant was aware of the order and that the defendant had the ability to follow the order, the ability to pay and did not. We use this tool to enforce child support enforcement orders against rich people and poor people, but the key was they had to have the ability to pay and refused to do so. And this is a great, great Bill. I commend the Sponsor on this legislation. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Franks for two minutes." 09800044.doc 251  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Thank you. I want to clarify something. When I was asking questions before, I had misread the Bill. This Bill is actually very important. It's the way we should be doing this. This does not… this is not a question of whether you're rich or poor. What this is about is whether you don't show up to court when the judge tells you to show to court. It doesn't matter what the debt is. So, the judge orders you to come to court to be able to determine whether you can pay, but if you don't show up, not once, not twice, but if you don't show up on three court ordered occasions, only then would a body attachment go forward to be able to bring you into court so you can answer the question to determine whether you can pay. This is very, very important. This is for people who are in contempt of a judge's order to appear to answer questions solely. If we don't do this, people who aren't paying their bills and are not listening to the judge's orders are going to get away and kids who need money will not get it. We… we have… and the question I'm hearing is why do we need it now. The question is a clarification. We do have it now, but some judges don't understand because we passed a Bill last year that was somewhat confusing on how the rule to show cause had to be issued. That has been clarified. The rule to show cause must be personally served. Once it's personally served on the person who has not shown up on those occasions, then the body attachment can issue. To vote against this Bill is to vote against, a) the judge telling you to be there and it's also voting against those kids who 09800044.doc 252  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 at least deserve an answer, if not money. So, please vote 'aye' on this Bill."

"Mr. Reboletti to close."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Record yourselves. Crespo, Hoffman, Turner, Walsh. Please take the record. On this question, there are 88 voting 'yes', and 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Members, there are less than 10 Bills left. If you'll cooperate, we can get out of here expeditiously. Next Bill is House Bill 3349, Mr. Tryon. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Tryon."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Franks, Leitch, McSweeney, Mitchell, Reboletti. Mr. Franks, Mr. Mitchell. Please take the record. On this question, there are 88 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Manley, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed."

"Members, will you just say hello to my friends from Romeoville. It's Ken… Ken and Jan Griffin. They came, in all this bad weather, down to Springfield just to see us. Ken is a Trustee on the Romeoville Village Board. Welcome."

"Happy to have you here. Welcome. House Bill 2720, Mr. Rita. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Rita."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. What House Bill 2720 basically does is narrows the 09800044.doc 254  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 exemption on what can be appraised and cannot be appraised by licensed appraisers."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor of the Bill vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Franks, Hammond, Jakobsson. Please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 87 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3178, Mr. Rita. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Rita."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 3178 raises the procurement line from 10 thousand to 40 thousand for the mass transit districts for reoccurring expenses. It hasn't been raised since the creation of those districts."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Hammond, Smith, Thapedi, Turner. Please record yourselves. Hammond, Smith, Turner. Please take the record. On this question, there are 50 voting 'yes', 38 voting 'no'. And the Gentleman moves for Postponed Consideration."

"Yes." 09800044.doc 255  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"House Bill 3125, Mr. Mautino. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Mautino."

"Thank you. This is an initiative of the Department of Employment Security. And it is… it allows for electronic return receipts issued by the U.S. Postal Service to constitute proof of service. All of the groups are in support of this. I know of no opposition. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Franks for two minutes."

"Thank you. A parliamentary inquiry. Was House Amendment #1 adopted?"

"Mr. Clerk."

"Okay. So, we…"

"Mr. Franks."

"Thank you. So, we're only dealing with the underlying Bill?"

"That's correct, Sir."

"Thank you. No questions."

"Mr. Bost for two minutes." 09800044.doc 256  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes."

"Sure. This was… and this is part of the agreed Bill process so that management and labor have gotten together. They actually have a number of issues that the department, the business groups and the management groups would like to put together in an agreed Bill. We had one Amendment here and there is another Amendment in the Senate. So, it's my wish to send the Bill over to the Senate so that the agreed provisions from IRMA, the Chamber of Commerce, as well as all of the labor unions and the department can be placed in there and brought back to us for a vote. This will be under the agreed Bill process and nothing will be placed on it that does not meet those requirements."

"Mr. Hoffman for two minutes."

"Yes, real briefly. I just want reiterate what Representative Mautino indicated. Representative Tracy and I convened an agreed Bill process where we had business and labor… that's what we're going to use this as a vehicle for."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Brady, Davidsmeyer, Flowers. Representative Flowers. Please take 09800044.doc 257  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 the record. On this question, there are 88 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this matter, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 702, Representative Mayfield. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Mayfield."

"Hi. This Bill is a Bill that was requested at… for a business owner in my district, as well as a landfill owner in… just north of me in another Representative's district. They're asking for… to change the packaging of the sharps needles for safety reasons. I'm open for questions. There… there is an opponent to the Bill, the Environmental Protection Agency, but they did testify in committee that they were fine with passing the Amendment as is and moving the Bill to the Senate and that we would work on further conversations and corrections in the Senate."

"Lady moves for the…"

"So, they were fine with moving it as is."

"Lady moves for the adoption of the Amendment. Chair recognizes Mr. Reboletti for two minutes."

"Lady yields."

"Okay. Currently, what is being asked is that these sharps needles that come in that potentially… that they be treated and rendered… they be… Oh, I'm sorry. Needles that come in that have potentially infectious waste in them, they have to be treated, sterilized and that risk totally removed. And that's what the business does. It totally eradicates that. Then there's another provision that says that their needles have to be rendered unrecognizable, meaning that they have to be shredded and then sent to the landfill. What is happening at the landfill with these shredded needles is that they're getting caught in the equipment. And at the landfill, the operators are actually getting stuck by the needles. So, what they're compromising and wanting to do is place these needles in a container and just dump them into a landfill after they've been treated and rendered non… noninfectious. So, after they remove that and the Environmental Agency was fine with… with what we're trying to do here and… but they just want to be able to work with the language to narrow it just a little bit and consider the time."

"Yes."

"Right."

"Medmentum is in my district. The landfill is in Representative Osmond's district. And they were the ones 09800044.doc 259  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 that were getting stuck with the sharps and they had the concerns."

"That is correct. And they're fine moving it as is."

"It'll either be Link or Bush, either mine or Representative Osmond's Senator."

"Yes."

"Those in favor of the Amendment will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Mayfield."

"I recommend an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Those of you who are still here. Brady, Farnham. Please take the record. On this question, there are 87 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the 09800044.doc 260  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Bost, who have left us now?"

"Now, are… are all the people who left ill? Are they all ill? Oh, never mind. Mr. Sacia, for what reason do you rise, Sir?"

"Please proceed."

"It's probably one of the reasons he won't be on the floor, Sir. House Bill 2418, Representative Chapa LaVia. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. I take offense to what you said to my… my seatmate over here, Mr. Bost. It wasn't nice. Hey, hey, okay. This is brought to me by the Illinois Association of School Board Management, having to do with candidates. Currently, a nomination of school board candidates must take place not more than 113 days nor less than 106 days prior to the consolidation election date. Since the consolidation election date occurs on the first Tuesday of April, this 09800044.doc 261  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 means that petition dates fall during the middle of December and they wanted the changes made to a different date. I'll take any questions."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Reboletti. Thank you, Sir. Please take the record. On this question, there are 86 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2322, Representative Chapa LaVia. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. House Amendment #1 becomes the Bill. It's to include a bullying prevention program. This is part of the social worker's duties remain the same. It is not a mandate. It has already been done… I shrunk. It's already being done now. I ask for your support and 'aye' vote."

Speaker Lang: "Lady's moved for the passage of the Bill, whatever she said. Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Costello, Nekritz. Please take the record. On this question, there are 86 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. And now, Representative Chapa LaVia on House Bill 2631. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." 09800044.doc 262  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. Being the last Bill… No, don't say that, Ken Dunkin. You'll be in trouble. This is another tool that we'd like to give school districts in order to consolidate some money and save and different tools. I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Lady's moved for the passage of the Bill. And the Chair recognizes Mr. Hays for two minutes."

"Of course she will."

"Reward."

"Right. Well…"

"No, it's not. And it's agree… it's permissive. It's not mandated. So, if a school district wishes to do it with a continuous district and share in the busing expenses, they're both winners; however, both of them will receive some money. ISBE is opposed at this moment 'cause they don't know what the equation would look like and how to give that money back to the school district. So, what we always try to do here is give them other avenues, other 09800044.doc 263  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 funnels to get more money in other avenues. This is just a tool. It's permissive. They can do it, but it is in agreement upon both school districts."

"No."

"No. It's not a zero sum game. It's only if they receive savings from working together as two continuous school districts. So, if it's not one loses, one gains. If you…"

"The savings of just having one or two bus routes for the same company and using the same intertwined routes. Say, the state gets 25 percent back and then the school district gets 75 percent of it back. So, ISBE was opposed to it because they don't have an equation for that yet 'cause it doesn't exist. But it was brought to us…"

"Please continue."

"Sorry, Speaker. It was brought to us through the Illinois School Transportation Association. His idea is to getting school districts some savings where the state would give them more money back in transportation so they use it for another teacher in the classroom or a smaller classroom, things like that. But the savings would be shared with the school district. It wouldn't be taken away; 09800044.doc 264  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 it wouldn't be distracted. They'd share a bus route. Whatever savings is calculated by the state, they'd get it back and they could use it for other things."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Lady yields."

"No. It doesn't have anything to do with the districts that don't participate and it…"

"Well… well, it was… it's just from the savings of joining forces and using the same transportation company, provider, whatever. Say… let me take it in my case, East and West Aurora. East Aurora doesn't have any, so they maybe have money set aside to do transportation they share with West Aurora. They have different times of starting, you know, so one school district used one school company and their… a bussing company and they're sharing in this and they're saving money. Right? If they could show how much money they're saving from the east side with the state, then the state would give them a savings back and 09800044.doc 265  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013 then they would, you know, split it however they're going to split it. But it wouldn't detract from any other school district."

"No. We don't have anything in place right now that would help them do that to my knowledge."

"Thank you."

"Representative Chapa LaVia to close."

"I request an 'aye' vote. Right now there's no incentive for the school districts to do that, so this allows them to do that. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Have all voted who wish? D'Amico, Mautino. Mr. D'Amico. Please take the record. On this question, there are 63 voting 'yes', 23 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Hays, did you not speak in debate on that Bill?"

"Do you wish to stand on a point of personal privilege, you may do so? Recognizes Representative Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for a point of personal privilege." 09800044.doc 266  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day 4/19/2013

"Proceed." Davis, M.: "First of all, I'd like to commend the Federal Government and the FBI, local government of Boston for their vigilant pursuit of those who put innocent citizens including women and children in jeopardy, some with the loss of limb or the loss of life. Second, I'd like to say, even though my Bill to reduce… to reduce the bail or put people with nonviolent crimes on monitoring, we will have to pay for the overcrowding at Cook County jail. They are sleeping four to cells that were meant for two. They're sleeping in shifts. The Federal Government will make us have to answer for that. I'd also like to say the vaccine for HIV, that we failed to pass, will cost us more money in medicine, hospitalization. And I would just like to conclude by saying, think of the results of how you vote. Your votes have a dire effect on the budget of the State of Illinois. Let me repeat, there are affects that take place, based on your votes, and the deficit this state is in is a result of many of our votes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Thank you, Representative. And now, making him the most popular man in Springfield, Representative Moylan moves that the House stand adjourned until Tuesday, April 30 at the hour of 12 noon. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the House does stand adjourned 'til Tuesday, April 30 at the hour of 12 noon, allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk. Be safe going home."