Illinois House Floor Debate — May 15, 2013

"The House will be in order. Members will be in their chairs. We shall be led in prayer today by Major Richard Herivel who is the Secretary General of the Midland Division of the Salvation Army in St. Louis, Missouri. The Major is a guest of Representative Leitch. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off all cell phones and rise for the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance. Major."

"We'll be led in prayer… in the Pledge today by Representative Meier." 09800055.doc 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Roll Call for Attendance. Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record reflect the excused absence of Representative Soto."

"Mr. Bost."

"Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 115 Members present and we do have a quorum. The Chair recognizes Mr. Mitchell." Mitchell, B.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed, Sir." Mitchell, B.: "Thank you. Yesterday, the Auditor General had a report to Members of the House of Representatives. I'm sure you've read this report on the Road Fund. A large chunk, one out of… at least one out of every $4 that should be going to roads in the State of Illinois are going for other things. Just reemphasizes the decade of incompetence that this state has been under. One, and I know not just downstaters for people in the suburbs or up north in the city, our roads are lousy, folks. They're in bad shape. So, when you tell the people that we represent that one out of every $4 is being diverted, why? The unemployment figures will be out next… tomorrow, I believe, but we know from 09800055.doc 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 last month we had nine and a half percent unemployment, two percentage points higher than the nation average. Where I'm from, we have the highest in the state, nearly 14 percent unemployment in the City of Decatur. The money in the Road Fund should be going for roads, bridges and work for people who are hurting, who are out of work that need the jobs to build the infrastructure in this state. That's what we should be about, folks. Helping people and making sure that the State of Illinois does its job and builds roads and bridges. Thank you."

Speaker Lang: "Mr. McSweeney. Representative Mayfield. Mr. Bost."

"Please proceed, Sir."

"Mr. Reis."

"Please proceed."

"On page 3 of the Calendar, under the Order of Senate Bills-Third Reading, appears Senate Bill 1197, Mr. Beiser. Out of the record. Chair recognizes Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A point of personal privilege, if I may?"

"Please proceed."

"I'd like to introduce the Body to my cousins who are down Paging today from Northbrook; Claire, Gabriel and Max Gruenberg. Welcome to Springfield."

"Welcome to Springfield. Mr. Clerk."

"Chair recognizes Representative Flowers. Excuse me. Chair recognizes Representative Feigenholtz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise on a point or two of personal privilege. First of all, I would like to welcome back to the chamber, Karen May, who's… Thank you. We're delighted to see her and perhaps we'll see her in a little cameo performance tonight. Also, a group of nurses representing four Vanguard hospitals are visiting us today. They work at MacNeal, West Sub, Weiss, which is in my district, Westlake, and are visiting the Capitol. Last week was Nurses Week. It was a time of year where we reflect on the important contributions nurses make to society and all of us to provide safe, high quality health care. I'd like all of us to give them a big warm of welcome."

"Welcome to Springfield. Happy you're here. The Chair recognizes Mr. Unes."

"Please proceed."

"Welcome. Happy you're here. Mr. Franks. Your light was on, Sir. Now, it's off. Senate Bill 1310, Mr. Zalewski. Please read the Bill." 09800055.doc 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Mr. Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1310 is identical to a Bill we passed earlier in the spring that deals with watercraft and it's an initiative of the Illinois Department of Natural Resources. It simply cleans up some enforcement actions. I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Turner. Please take the record. On this question, there are 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1379, Mr. Unes. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Unes."

"Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." 09800055.doc 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Representative, could you be more descriptive on what this Bill does? I understand that you want to keep a tax break for a… for an employer. Is this for a specific employer?"

"Okay. Let me ask you this. Right… As I'm looking at this, and the Majority Leader's helping me understand this, I understand that the tax break was based on a certain number of employees being employed. Correct?"

"And one of those markers was that they had to have a thousand full-time employees by 2012, correct?"

"But now, what this legislation would do is to allow them to be down to 750 employees and still get a tax break?"

"Why would we change the definition of retention here? Isn't the idea of the economic incentives to create jobs? And I'm wondering why we would incentivize the removal of jobs?"

"I… I understand what you're trying to do, but this would cost the locals then, if not the state, the locals will be foregoing over a million and a half dollars a year in revenue for the utility tax, correct, if this should be extended?"

"But they're not leaving the state. I mean, right now we had a… we had a hearing last week on the EDGE credit program in the State of Illinois, which seems to be the only way you can get a tax credit in this state, is if you threaten to leave. But here, what you're saying is even if you're staying and you're going to have less workers, you're still going to receive the same tax credit. Aren't tax credits supposed to be to incentivize job creation? This is a disincentive for job creation. What we're saying is, you can fire 25 percent of your workforce and as a reward we're going to give you a million and a half dollars." 09800055.doc 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"How many employees do they have now?"

"Well, don't we want to incentivize them? Because you're allowing them with this Bill, if they have 862, to allow them to fire 112 workers and to still maintain this tax break, correct?"

"And we want them to."

"But instead of going down to 750, wouldn't it make more sense to say, okay, you have 862 employees and we hope to God you go over a thousand in the next year, but as long as you maintain 862, we will give you the additional three years. But I've got a problem to give them the additional three years if we're also allowing them to fire taxpaying 09800055.doc 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 Illinoisans and getting tax breaks from those same folks who they just fired. Now, would… would you agree that it would make more sense to say as long as you kept 862 that we should then be able to give you the additional 3 years? I think this Bill would sail out of here unanimously."

"Representative, yeah."

"We… we have time."

"Well, would you consider amending it? I think they'd probably agree. If Keystone says they're going to… they're at 862 and their trend is up and they plan on being over a thousand next year, I don't see how anyone then could argue that it wouldn't make sense then to require that they keep at least that. Would you be willing to amend this Bill, take it to Second? I'm sure it'll pass then, unanimously, in both Houses. But otherwise, what we're saying is a policy is we're going to give tax breaks to those companies that can fire people, which I don't think anybody here agrees with." 09800055.doc 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Well, I appreciate it. To the Bill. I appreciate what the Gentleman's trying to do and if I was in his situation I'd probably be do… trying to do something similar, but I think I would have amended the Bill because I think it sends a very bad message to say that we're going to give special tax breaks to companies that are going to fire folks. If they really believe what they were talking about and they were going to be growing, they'd have no problem maintaining the same level. But to do this I… I think is… is corrupting to the process because we need… if we're going to be giving tax incentives, they have to be given to be creating jobs and to retaining jobs, but this doesn't require retention. It allows for firing and I don't think that's what we ought to be doing. I think it's poor public policy and I'll be voting 'no'."

"Mr. Turner in the Chair."

"Representative Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Question of the Sponsor."

"Sponsor will yield." Harris, D.: "So, Representative, let me understand this. We've given them a… a tax incentive to create new jobs and what did they do with that tax incentive? They created new jobs, didn't they?" 09800055.doc 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Representative Leitch." 09800055.doc 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Representative Kay."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative Ives."

"He indicates that he will."

"Representative Gordon."

"Representative Unes to close."

Speaker Turner: "The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1379 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 106 voting 'yes', 9 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1379, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1399, Representative Williams. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Williams."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill makes a simple but profound change to the civil… Code of Civil Procedure and eliminates the statute of limitations for victims of childhood sexual abuse. This Bill would apply only to actions filed after January 1, 2014, which are not currently time barred. Under the current statute of limitation for childhood sexual abuse, you have 20 years to bring an action or 20 years from the time… or from the time the victim discovers the abuse or resulting injury. The reality is that it is difficult to determine when a victim may have discovered abuse and injury. Therefore, this Bill gives people impacted by childhood sexual abuse every opportunity to seek redress for the injuries they have suffered. I'll be happy to answer any questions." 09800055.doc 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Representative Reis."

"Sponsor will yield."

"I'm not sure what you're referring to? There have been several Bills introduced to eliminate and modify the statute of limitations for criminal actions. This pertains only to the Code of Civil Procedure and only to civil actions."

"Well, again, this is… it deals with civil legal actions. And I think the issue of childhood sexual abuse is unique, unfortunately, in that, many victims don't realize the full impact of what has happened to them until many years later. The current law provides for you to bring an action from 20 years after the age of majority, which the age of majority is 18 plus 20, that's 38. The average age for victims that were abused in childhood to fully realize and understand what they've been dealing with, unfortunately, is 42 years old. So, many of them miss that opportunity and miss that window. It's a unique, unfortunately, crime all too common and eliminating the statute of limitations would just open up opportunities for victims to seek the redress that they deserve."

"Representative Williams to close."

"Again, this Bill simply addresses the civil statute of limitations, it does not impact the criminal statute in any way. And again, it is the plaintiff's burden to prove 09800055.doc 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 their case. They must prove the abuse occurred by a preponderance of an evidence. This is fair, this is right and this is the time to remove the statute of limitations. I urge an 'aye' vote."

Speaker Turner: "The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1399 pass?' All in favor vote, 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1399, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1410, Representative Welch. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Welch."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1410, this Bill is an initiative of the Illinois Association of Park Districts. The association believes that revenue which was not anticipated at the beginning of a fiscal year, such as a grant that comes in after the budget has been approved, is not included in that annual appropriation ordinance. If the park district then receives that revenue, it does not have authority to spend the funds until the next fiscal year. This Bill would allow a park district to adopt a supplemental ordinance approving the expenditure of such funds without having to proceed through the time consuming and expensive process of amending the original 09800055.doc 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 appropriation ordinance. I'm asking the Body to approve Senate Bill 1410."

"Representative Reboletti."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes."

"Well, you can receive a grant from any of our state agencies for instance. Let's say they receive an OSLAD grant and that was not in the budget that was approved. They can do a supplemental appropriation and spend that money right away rather than wait 'til the next fiscal year."

"They would have to wait 'til their next budget cycle."

"The next year."

"Representative, we don't have that information other than the Rockford Park District."

"Actually, let… let me be clear. In order to approve a budget, you have to go through the public hearing process."

"Yes, Sir."

"Excuse me, Members. Can we please bring the noise level down in the chamber? Having a tough time hearing the Sponsor speak. Thank you."

"In order for the original appropriation to be approved, it has to go through a public hearing first. After the public hearing, which is published in the newspaper, then it… it's approved at a regular meeting of the park board. This… this Bill here would take away the need for an additional public hearing. It still has to be put on an agenda, meet the requirements of the Open Meetings Act, be… the public has to be allowed to speak freely and public comment at that board meeting. And they can still address the supplemental appropriation." 09800055.doc 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Absolutely."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Representative Sullivan."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Yes, Representative. That's regarding the public hearing. That does not take away the… the requirements as they are spelled out in the Open Meetings Act. You still have to specifically put the item on an agenda, still have to publish it with at least 48 hours' notice and you still have to allow the public an opportunity to comment at that special or regular board meeting. But this does not… the park district would not be required to go through the public hearing process, that's completely different." 09800055.doc 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"That's correct."

"It does not."

"What we're asking for in this particular Bill is already done in school districts across the state, it's already done in municipalities across the state. We're… we're… we're trying to bring park districts level to other governmental entities across the state. And there's nothing wrong with this process."

"Has nothing to do with tax levies."

"Thank you."

"Representative Welch to close." 09800055.doc 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is important legislation for the park districts across our state. I'm asking the Body to vote 'aye' on this issue."

Speaker Turner: "The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1410 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 64 voting 'yes', 49 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1410, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Bellock, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Please state your point, Ma'am."

Speaker Turner: "Welcome to your Capitol. Representative Sacia."

"Please state your point, Sir."

Speaker Turner: "Thank you, Representative. Representative Hays."

"Please state your point, Sir."

"Welcome to your Capitol. Senate Bill 1417, Representative Moffitt. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Moffitt."

"Representative Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative, I'm looking at our analysis and it indicates that the Countryside Fire Protection District is opposed? Could you please let us know if that's correct and if so, why?"

"I think Representative Sente just told me that it's not correct. So I'll check with staff and we'll get back to you in a moment. I don't want you to have to take it out of the record."

"Yet, there may be other questions." 09800055.doc 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Let me just check with staff."

"Representative, I… I just talked to the staffer and he indicated that there was a form filled out, but no one came to committee and nor have they responded to any questions. So, I think it may be… may have been a mistake."

"All right. So… so, thank you."

"Representative Sente."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I did want to answer Representative Franks' question. Countryside is in my district. I just talked to the chief and he said he checked the wrong box. So, all the fire protection districts are unanimous behind this. It passed out of the Senate unanimously and I wholly support this measure."

"Representative Moffitt to close."

Speaker Turner: "The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1417 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The 09800055.doc 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative s… Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1417, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1430, Representative Cabello. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

Speaker Turner: "Gentleman from Winnebago, Representative Cabello."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1430 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Lang, Mitchell, Unes, Zalewski. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 88 voting 'yes', 23 voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1430, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby 09800055.doc 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 declared passed. Senate Bill 1475, Representative Acevedo. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Acevedo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1475 amends the Water Reclamation Act to be consistent with Federal Law, adds requirements for persons employed with the water reclamation contracts to include not only citizens but U.S. nationals, aliens, lawfully admitted as permanent residents and individuals who have not… who have been granted asylum. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"On that, we have Representative Dunkin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Representative, I'm looking at my… the executive summary of my analysis and it says, this Bill will allow the Metropolitan Water and Reclamation Districts to employ certain individuals who are not citizens of the United States. Is this common?"

"No, that's… that's not true."

"So, the analysis in incorrect?"

"It says it include citizens, with U.S. national, aliens lawfully admitted as permanent residents. And individuals who have been granted asylum."

"So, if that's the case, why would we need this legislation if they're admitted… if they're an alien 09800055.doc 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 lawfully admitted for permanent residence or if they've been granted asylums here in this country?"

"We're just duplicating what they have under Federal Law, Representative."

"Is this necessary, if that's the case? Hello?"

"Basically, it's just clarification to make sure that the individuals that are employed have to be here legally."

"But the only… isn't that the case already?"

"No, it's not."

"Okay. So, I just want some clarification here. So, right now, the Water Reclamation District can hire non-U.S. citizens?"

"They could hire somebody who makes it clear that they're intentions are to stay in the United States and become a citizen."

"If… so, how… how do they verify that… verify intentions?"

"Well, the… that's exactly why we need this Bill, Representative."

"I… I… I'm still scratching my head. Maybe I’m not articulating it well enough. If I am a… if I am a U.S. citizen… if I'm not a U.S. citizen, the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District will allow me to work for them or not work for them?"

"Under… under current law, if your intentions are to become a U.S. citizen, you are allowed to work there."

"So, how do you… again, clarify me. How do you… how do you define intentions?"

"It's not clear. This is…" 09800055.doc 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"When I play baseball, I intend to hit a homerun."

"And what do you do, strikeout?"

"Sometimes. So, help me understand the intention of this… this Bill?"

"We're just… we're just…"

"Oh. Oh, I see. Okay. Well, I've just been informed that… Thanks for the clarification."

"I was just trying to tell you. This way you can stop scratching your head, Representative."

"Well, thank God for a good legal counsel. Thanks for the clarification, Representative… What's your name, Representative… Heather Wier? Thank you."

"Representative David Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and to the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, the Bill provides that persons employed by the sanitary district must be a United States citizen, a national of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence or an individual who has been granted asylum. What a great idea. Maybe this is a trend that we can apply to all state programs? Let's vote 'yes' on this Bill."

"Representative Acevedo to close."

"I just ask for an 'aye' vote."

Speaker Turner: "The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1475 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members, please record yourselves. Representative Cassidy, Will Davis. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 109 voting 'yes', 4 09800055.doc 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1475, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative McAuliffe, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Please state your point, Sir."

"Thank you and welcome to the Capitol. Senate Bill 1479, Representative Drury. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill. Representative, you have a Floor Amendment. Would you like to move this back to Second and move the Amendment?"

"I would like to move it back to Second. Thank you."

"Mr. Clerk, please move Senate Bill 1479 back to the Order of Second Reading. Please read the Bill for a second time."

"Representative Drury."

"Floor Amendment #1 is a technical Amendment to Senate Bill 1479, which is a Bill introduced by Senator Morrison after the tragic death of her 10-year-old nephew in a boating accident. This merely clarifies some language that DNR and the Secretary of State have requested to make sure 09800055.doc 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 that the Amendment doesn't conflict with other provisions of the law. I ask for its adoption."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1479. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Turner: "Third Reading. Senate Bill 1493, Representative Sullivan. Mr. Clerk. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1499, Representative Burke. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Kelly Burke." Burke, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1499 would allow the Forest Preserve District of Cook County to acquire land in fee simple or by easement. Currently, there is no language in the Forest Preserve Act regarding land acquisition by easement for the Forest Preserve District of Cook County, although that is granted to all other forest preserve districts in the state. I know of no opposition. It's an initiative of the Cook County Forest Preserve District. And I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1499 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 114 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 09800055.doc 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 1499, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1550, Representative Sandack. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1568, Representative Hoffman. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1585, Representative Gabel. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1598, Representative Ford. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Senate Bill 1598 is an initiative of the Illinois Racial and Ethnic Impact Research Task Force. What the Bill simply does is improves the collection of race and ethnicity during the point of arrest or at any involvement with the criminal system. I move for the adoption of Senate Bill 1598… or the passage."

"Representative Reboletti."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"I'll do it again."

"I'll do it again."

"Excuse me, Representative. Members, will you please bring the noise level down in the chamber and take 09800055.doc 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 all conversations to the rear. We're having a tough time hearing the Sponsor. Thank you. Representative Ford."

"Senate Bill 1598… Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1598 is an initiative from the Illinois Racial and Ethnic Impact Research Task Force that we had. And the goal of the Bill is to improve the collection of race and ethnicity data with regard to people who are arrested and involved in criminal… in the criminal system. That's all the Bill does."

"Well, right now, there is no indication for… it would require that a Hispanic or Latino field be included in the list of race categories used to… by the law enforcement and the Department of Corrections and the Department of Juvenile Justice. So, it really adds the Latino field."

"Well, the goal would be…"

"Yeah, the goal would be for the law enforcement to deduce the information. But they… it's self-reporting and if they can't get the information from the person that's in front of them, then it'd be their job to make the best judgment."

"That's right."

"Police reports."

"Booking, yes."

"Thank you."

"Representative Ford to close."

"I just ask for a favorable vote for Senate Bill 1598. Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members."

Speaker Turner: "The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1598 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1598, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1599, Representative Drury. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Drury."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1599 amends the Children and Family Services Act as well as the Child Care 09800055.doc 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 Act to expressly allow for criminal background checks of DCFS employees and applicants as well as background checks for non-licensed service providers and their volunteers. An audit that was conducted by the FBI found that DCFS was already doing this but disseminating the information in a way they weren't allowed to. This law clarifies it and allows us to do the criminal background checks and actually use them. Passed out of Judiciary unanimously. I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1599 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1599, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1606, Representative Cassidy. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Cassidy."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Senate Bill 1606 is a simple cleanup on the Condominium Property Act to clarify some confusion in the language about the number… the appropriate number of votes from unit owners to settle disputes. The Bill does not change the substantive nature of the Act nor does it disturb any mortgagee rights related to amending the condominium instruments. It is… I know of no opposition. It passed the 09800055.doc 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 Senate unanimously and is just a helpful tool to condominium associations. And I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1606 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1606, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1609, Representative Cassidy. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Cassidy."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Senate Bill 1609 is a follow up to last year's Social Work Safety Act. During the course of debate on the Bill, we… we discovered that we had inadvertently neglected to cover many folks who… who act in the capacity of state employees, social workers, and put themselves into… into dangerous situations but they actually work under contract. So this Bill simply takes care of that omission and adds the people who… who work on behalf of our state in social work contract capacities to that… that… those protections. And I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1609 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the 09800055.doc 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 record. On a count of 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1609, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1640, Representative Williams. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Williams."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill simply creates a Multiple Sclerosis Task Force in the Illinois Department of Public Health. We've passed the nearly identical Bill already out of this chamber. This is actually the version we will move forward, makes a few quick fixes at the request of the Department of Public Health. It's really designed to make some inroads into what we need to do for people afflicted with this disease and other people with disabilities. And it will be disbanded in about three years when a report is issued. So, I urge an 'aye' vote. And I'm happy to answer any questions."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1640 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1640, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1657, Representative Zalewski. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." 09800055.doc 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Representative Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1657 cures a couple of different deficiencies within the Property Tax Code. Namely, dealing with an instance of a border review that has a partisanship requirement, ensuring that the… the… the parties… the spirit of the… of the statute is reinforced. It also deals with instances to ensure that during the procedure of property tax appeals that the… the client, for lack of a better word, the taxpayer, is properly represented and that attorneys aren't going out and… and appealing on behalf of a… of a taxpayer without them knowing about it and some other procedural requirements. I'd… I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1657 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 113 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1657, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1670, Representative Brauer. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Brauer."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1670 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Drury. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 114 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1670, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1688, Representative Jakobsson. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Jakobsson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1688 removes an antiquated, problematic provision with the Public Community College Act. And that Act required a portion of a community college district base operating grant to be allocated based on the gross non-residential square footage. This simply this changes it, and I shouldn't say simply, because it's really important state appropriations currently assigned to those… to be allocated on the basis of enrolled credit hours. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1688 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. 09800055.doc 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1688, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1667, Representative Berrios. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1704, Representative Roth. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Roth."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1704 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Reboletti. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1704, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1735, Representative Scherer. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Scherer."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today, I'm presenting Senate Bill 1735. The Bill is intended to help keep our roads safe 09800055.doc 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 and crack down on reckless drivers who have clearly shown that they will not follow the law. Under this Bill, a driver who causes serious injury or death of another person while driving on a suspended or revoked license could be charged with a Class 4 felony. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Bill Mitchell." Mitchell, B.: "Representative… Representative Scherer, I just was looking on the board and I said you have some excellent cosponsors on this Bill. Excellent. So I request the Body to vote 'yes'."

Speaker Turner: "Seeing no debate, I mean… I'm sorry. The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1735 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 113 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1735, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1737, Representative Brown. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Brown."

"On that, we have Representative Franks." 09800055.doc 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"So, Representative… where are you?"

"There you are, thank you. Thanks. Thank you. Next to that excellent cosponsor for the last Bill, I see."

"What you're saying is if the… if there's an administrative error, meaning that the government somehow screwed up, that we will allow folks to be able to pay the arrearages without penalty, correct?"

"Why would we limit it to a certain date, to October 1? And the reason I say that is, if it's the government's error, why should we be held liable for their error to an arbitrary date?"

"There… would there be a waiver of any penalties owed by the taxpayer for the mistake of the government?"

"Yeah. 'Cause what I'm concerned about is if you're a day late for the proper amount, they charge you an interest fee. As long as… I want to make sure that the folks who didn't do anything wrong are not getting charged interest because of the government's mistake."

"Okay. Thank you. I think it makes sense and I appreciate you bringing this forward."

"Representative Sullivan."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Representative Brown to close."

Speaker Turner: "The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1737 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 113 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1737, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 7… Senate Bill 1693, Representative Acevedo. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Leader Acevedo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1693 amends Illinois Identification Card Act and the Illinois Vehicle Code allowing peace officers to provide their work address instead of their home address when applying for an Illinois identification card, driver's license or instruction permit. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Representative Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield." 09800055.doc 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Representative, I appreciate you bringing this Bill forward. We had a discussion in committee and I think there was a couple of issues that I wanted to make sure that were clarified. Number one, one of the issues that came up in committee was the issue of voting, for early voting, primarily when you have to show your information. Has there been something done here in the Bill to make sure that these folks who are using a business address instead of a home address will be able to still early vote?"

"Well, I would… I would think, Representative, that if they have a voting card and they have a utility bill that should be enough identification to show where they live."

"'Cause I think we're going to need to educate the Election Boards on this as well. Because it…"

"I… I agree with you 100 percent."

"I want to make sure we do that. And the second issue is, were we able to define what peace officers were? 'Cause there were some…"

"I got this…"

"…there was some question… I think you might have had a list that you were putting together."

"Right. I… I got that for you right now. A peace officer means any person who by virtue of his office or public employment is vested by law with the duty to maintain public order to make arrests for offenses whether their duty extends to all offenses or is limited to specific offenses. Any person, who by statute, is granted and authorized to exercise powers similar to those 09800055.doc 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 conferred upon any peace officer employed by a law enforcement agency of this state."

"Do you have a list of any of those… who those individuals might be?"

"Yeah. Right. There… there's really never been a list put together, Representative. Yes, the courts have ruled out, like, security guards and prison guards."

"Yeah. I just want to be clear for legislative intent…"

"Yes."

"…that those folks aren't included and we're… and we're getting the folks that you want to include?"

"Yes."

"All right. Well, thank you."

"Representative Bost."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Yes. That… that's exactly what it's about."

"Yes."

"Representative Acevedo to close."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, this is very clear that sometimes an individual will find out where the police officer or law enforcement officer lives and try to… try to take revenge on that individual, so this is just for safety purposes. I'm sure the individual is not going to walk into 09800055.doc 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 a police department or any other law enforcement facility to take an act of revenge. So, this is just for exactly as Representative Bost said, for the safety of the police officers. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

Speaker Turner: "The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1693 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1693, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1757, Representative Walsh. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Walsh."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. 1757 is an initiative of the Secretary of State's Office. This Bill implements federal rules regarding commercial learner permits and testing standards. And all states are required to come into compliance no later than July 8 of 2014 or face the loss of federal highway moneys. I'd be happy to answer any questions and would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1757 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 114 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1757, having received the 09800055.doc 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1686, Representative Gordon. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Gordon."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates that she will." 09800055.doc 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Representative, just as a point of clarification, because it seemed like I've seen this Bill before, you're giving the parent 9 months in order to avoid being found unfit?"

"And so, what exactly is your Bill doing?"

"According to the analysis, it says the legislation is intended to shorten the time line for making a finding of unfitness and supporters argue that this will cure the chronic delays in the court cases. It would address the delays in the court cases. But what I'm trying to figure out is it says a parent must make reasonable progress 09800055.doc 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 toward the return of her child. And if this is to be done in a time certain and if the purpose of this Bill is to unclog the court, what process is in place to guarantee that that parent is getting the services in which the court has required he or she to get…"

"…in order to get their children back."

"Well, Representative, with all due respect, I understand what your intentions are, but I don't see that language and what you're talking about in the Bill. And you know with the cuts that we've had in this state to these different agencies, so there are fewer agencies now than there has ever been. And so, this to me is another way and means whereas it that mother will not be able to get her child back in a time certain because the court is not mandating that she be put in front of the line because there are so few, as you stated yourself, there are so few organizations out there that can offer these services at a time certain. So, with all due respect, I will be voting 'no' on your Bill. Once, again, this… this is unfair to the children. It's unfair to the parents. And the only people that's going to benefit this is the courts and other people who have a… a conflict of interest, quite frankly, in this legislation. So, respectfully, I will be voting 'no'."

"Representative Feigenholtz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I want to applaud Representative Gordon-Booth for bringing this issue to the Adoption Reform Committee. Like many pieces of legislation, this is a very complex nuance in the law that she's trying to rectify to address some of the issues that the previous speaker had. This is really an arbitrary date that if something doesn't happen on an exact date prevents the birth family and the biological family from actually having any kind of reunification because of lack of opportunity. This takes the arbitrary nature of that, it 09800055.doc 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 removes it to make it fit with real time and real life here in the State of Illinois. I applaud her for taking this issue on and I strongly urge a 'aye' vote."

"Representative Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "I yield my time to Representative Flowers."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Representative Davis. I just want to bring to everyone's attention who the opponents of this Bill is. The opponents is the Chicago Legal Advocacy for Incarcerated Mother, CLAIMS, the Chicago Coalition for the Homeless, the Family Defense Center. These are the people who are in opposition to this Bill. We all know that DCFS budget has been cut. We all know that more children are being harmed the longer they stay in the system. We all know because of the budget cuts the services that the state is required to give to the parents is not being given. So, the ultimate person and people whom we are going to continue to harm will be the children. Once again, I respectfully ask for a 'no' vote because this Bill is not in the best interest of the state. This Bill is not in the best interest of the child. If it was, these opponents would not be in opposition to this Bill. Thank you very much."

"Representative Gordon to close."

Speaker Turner: "The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1686 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 112 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1686, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Sosnowski, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Welcome to your Capitol. Senate Bill 1792, Representative Schmitz. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Schmitz."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1792 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1792, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1817, Representative Tracy. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1824, Representative Sosnowski. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Sosnowski."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1824 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1824, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1826, Representative Rita. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Rita."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill is a clarification for using e-signatures. It's an initiative of the City of Chicago. Like I said, it's just a clarification to… to put what can and what cannot be used."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1826 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all 09800055.doc 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 114 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1826, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1790, Representative Golar. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1404, Representative Evans. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Evans."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 1404 makes a small change. It takes the scavenger sale eligibility for a property that is delinquent and the taxes from 2 years to 3 years. I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Representative Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates that he will."

"Representative, what's the genesis of this Bill?"

"Well, Sir, when property taxes aren't paid for a year, they're eligible for the annual tax sale. Beyond 2 years, they're eligible for the scavenger tax sale. And what I'm saying in this Bill is that we want to make it 3 years to kind of clean up a few issues that come with these… with the scavenger tax sale. Generally, no one picks up the property after 2 years anyway and in a lot of cases, the taxes are sold in the next tax sale which… because they happen so close together… if we make it that it's 3 years, 09800055.doc 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 it'll give a little bit more time to clean up some issues that they've had with selling these properties."

"How would it work effectively? So, let's assume someone did not… let's… let's start this year because our taxes are 1 year in arrears. So, right now, we're paying taxes for 2012. So, let's assume someone does not pay their 2012 taxes in, you know, June of 2013, then they don't pay again next year in June of 2014 for the 2013 taxes. Are you saying then they have to go 1 more year before they're delinquent, before a sale can be scheduled?"

"Well, I'm saying that for the scavenger sale, but they're going to be eligible for the… the annual sale after that first year of non-payment. Do you have an answer for that?"

"Well, the… well, the annual sale is just an investor, typically, purchasing the interest rate for the taxes, as I understand it. And then the scavenger sale is if it hasn't… if they have not been redeemed for a couple of years, then the property would be sold to redeem those… the investor's money, basically."

"Yeah. My understanding is that there's been a lot of issues with the… with the taxes being bought at subsequent sales after the first scavenger sale. An additional… an additional year would just help clean up some of those issues."

"I'm just concerned… my only concern is I hate to add more costs to the homeowner."

"Generally, once the property is in the scavenger sale, it's rare that it's redeemed anyway. So, generally, most of 09800055.doc 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 these properties in a scavenger tax sale many of them have been in that particular sale for, you know, 10, 12 years at that point."

"Really?"

"Yes."

"'Cause I thought they were able… I thought you had to sell them. What I've seen… here's… here's what I'm concerned about. I don't care about the vacant lot that nobody pays taxes on; I don't care about that going to sale. What I'm worried about, and I had this happen yesterday in my district office, I had a lady call me and she owned her home outright but she couldn't pay her property taxes and she was worried that she was going to lose her house. And I just want to make sure that we don't increase costs for someone like my constituent, that lady, who owned her house outright but just couldn't afford her taxes. By extending the time frame, would this be more costly? I just… that's my only concern."

"No, it was my understanding that it won't."

"Okay. All right. I'll study more on it, but thank you."

"Thank you."

"Representative Sullivan."

"Sponsor will yield."

"No, I think the intent of… my understanding, the intent was to clear up property being purchased in that subsequent year. So, you have, for example, if you don’t pay it in 2001 and 2002, the tax sale will be in 2003. And then… it's… it's a great example in the analysis. And in 2005, someone could purchase previous years 'cause, generally, when a property is on a scavenger tax list, it's… hasn't just been 2 years or it's not as simple as someone just lost their property. Generally, it's… it's been passed over and that first annual tax sale, most of the good properties go on that annual tax sale. This is a piece of property that's been on the list for a few years. It's rare that a property makes a scavenger tax list if it's a great piece of property or if it's just been lost by a homeowner."

"Representative Reboletti."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"If you look closely, it says additional tax recorders all over, whether it's Sangamon County or any other county, they have the option to do it. It's my understanding that some do. But they have the option."

"If it's less than 3 million… I think Chicago is the only one that's over 3 million. If it's less than 3 million, then you have an option to do that."

"Yes, it is looking in the Bill."

"Well, just the… the sheer number of properties in Cook County, but it's always been. I'm not changing that part of the law, just extending it an additional year."

"I don't have an exact number. It's in the thousands, a lot of properties. I've seen a list before. It's generally thousands of pieces of properties on these had lists also."

"A very small percentage."

"With the extra year, as I explained earlier, that that extra year prevents individuals from… it's the hope that it would prevent individuals from purchasing the same piece of property, regarding that some of the old taxes. And also, it just gives an additional year to clear up issues that will come if… if the property is purchased in 2003. Potentially, that same… old taxes from that same piece of property could be purchased in 2 years. So, it kind of 09800055.doc 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 gives more for time of… to redeem and it for some clarity purposes, kind of cleans up the process."

"Just properties… all those properties that would be on the scavenger sale."

"If a county has a scavenger sale."

"Could you repeat the question, I'm sorry?"

"If you're in arrears 2 years and you got through the annual tax sale of your… your tax was not purchased at an annual tax sale, it will go to this scavenger tax sale. Normally, that's what the law says. I'm only extending it 3 years, an additional year. So, whatever is the law now, which is you will go to a scavenger tax sale if that's applicable in your county."

"Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members. First of all, there's always been a date certain for scavenger sales in Cook County. I don't know why. I do know that it used to be 10 years, then it was 5 years, today it is 2 years. A recent Circuit Court decision, however, said that at the 2-year period, the buyer of taxes at a scavenger sale couldn't merge the old taxes that were due. So, 2 years later, which 09800055.doc 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 is usually a lot shorter a period of time than when the person who bought the taxes at the scavenger sale is actually awarded the deed. Two years later, somebody else buys the other taxes and now the person to get the deed is going to have to deal with the fact that the old taxes are no longer merged. So, you're going to discourage people from participating in scavenger sales. These are not regular delinquency sales. These are properties that have been pretty much abandoned. There is certainly a redemption period if an owner wants to come forward and redeem, that is possible under the law, and there is plenty of time available to do that. But the difficulty is that under this court ruling, and given the timetable, there'd be very little reason to want to participate in a scavenger sale. Since the point for the county is to get rid of abandoned and ill-kept properties, it makes sense to make sure that we haven't reversed the incentives for people who participate in the scavenger sale. And if we move to a 3- year timetable, I think we create the right incentive. I urge your 'aye' vote."

"Representative David Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A question of the Sponsor?"

"The Sponsor will yield." Harris, D.: "So, Representative, as we discussed in committee, all we're doing is changing the time period from 2 years to 3 years. Is that correct?"

"The only thing that's been struck out in the Bill, you can see the text, from 2 to 3 years. That's it, Sir. Yes." 09800055.doc 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 Harris, D.: "Thank you very much."

"Representative Evans to close."

"I urge your 'aye' vote. Thank you."

Speaker Turner: "The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1404 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 113 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1404, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Leader Burke, for what reason do you seek recognition?" Burke, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On a point of personal privilege."

"Please state your point, Sir." Burke, D.: "I'd like to take a moment to introduce a group of… fine young people from my district attending the UNO Charter Schools. They're up in the gallery on our left. Please give them a warm, Springfield welcome."

"Welcome to your Capitol. Senate Bill 1216, Representative Acevedo. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Acevedo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1216 adds that the Fraternal Order of Police license plate is subject to appropriations by the General Assembly and distribution… distribution by the Secretary of State. I'll be happy to answer any questions." 09800055.doc 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1216 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Gabel, Franks. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 3 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1216, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, what's the status of Senate Bill 1226?"

"Can you move that to the Order of Second Reading and read the Bill, please?"

"Representative D'Amico."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1. And on that, we have a question from Representative Reboletti."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1226. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Bellock."

"Please state your point, Ma'am."

"Thank you. On the Order of House Bills on Third Reading, we have House Bill 2991. Representative Arroyo. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Arroyo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 2991 creates the Lion Meat Act, provides that the… that it is unlawful for any person to slaughter a lion for any possession or personal possession to breed, to import or export from the State of Illinois, buy or sell lion for the purpose of slaughtering, provides that it is unlawful for commercializing lion meat. The authorization of the Department of Agriculture to adopt and enforce any rules necessary to carry out the provisions of the Act, provides that wherever violations or any provision of the Act shall 09800055.doc 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 be guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. Mr. Speaker, I won't… I don't want to take no… no answers or no questions, if you don't mind, please."

"Members, there are many people wishing to speak. So, please, you know, keep that in mind. Representative Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I… just a few questions of the Sponsor, if he'll yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Excellent. Representative, what does lion meat taste like?"

"Well, Franks, I'm glad… I'm glad you asked that question, but I think there's only one Legislator that's tried lion meat. I think Mike Tryon was the only one that ate… has eaten it. Is Mike Tryon over there? So, see he left… he… I think he got a little sick when he ate the lion meat, so that's why he's not here today."

"I'm just… I'm just wondering if it tastes like condor or a bald eagle or… or anything like that. I'm just… I'm just trying to figure out the texture and the taste."

"I haven't… I haven't had the privilege to do that. But I think that at this time and age we shouldn't be consuming lion meat or any kind of exotic… exotic pet. You know, where are we going to stop? Are we going to start eating cat and dog in Illinois?"

"Well… well, actually many cultures do. I was in Vietnam recently…"

"Could you name… could you name a couple, Jack?" 09800055.doc 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Well, I'm just thinking, I was in Vietnam and you had a choice of dogs, whether you wanted to have them for pets or for meat. So, some cultures actually do eat more exotic animals than we have. And I know in Illinois, until recently, we were exporting horse meat to Belgium. There was a… a plant in Belgium. So, I… I just… I was wondering, is this a big problem? Are there a lot of folks… since only Mr. Tryon had… had tried the lion, is there a lot of folks that are munching on… on lion meat?"

"Well, there… there was one… one business at Homer Glen was eating it or selling it and making money out of it. So, they got into a problem with that and that's what the reason… one of the reasons. We're also… I've been talking to U.S. Fish and Wildlife in D.C. They did a study for 3 months and now they said that there's enough evidence to try… to try to put them in the Endangered Species list. So now, they're doing the year… the year's finding to see… they… they say there's enough evidence to put them on the Endangered Species list."

"Do we know what the lion population is in Illinois?"

"I'll have to get back to you on that. But I… I have a question for you if you don't mind, Jack?"

"Sure, of course."

"You said that you went to Vietnam and… and you ate dog?"

"No, I didn't… I didn't part… and I don't think I did, I may have. But I… I don't think I did." 09800055.doc 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Because I wanted to talk about maybe that's the reason why you… you vote the way you vote. Probably the little dog… a little dog."

"Yeah, my parents question… well, my dad questions my lineage sometimes too. So, as you're well aware."

"Thank you, Jack."

"All right. Thank you. I'm going to listen to this debate, Mr. Arroyo."

"I think you're the last speaker, Jack."

"Representative Farnham."

"Representative Arroyo, I… I notice there's a certain similarity, your name, there's some relationship there. Is this the reason you're bringing this Bill forward?"

"I think because of the consumption and we weren't trying to save the lion. You know, there's a lot of people that like animals and don't want to see people consume this lion meat. But as far as my name, no I'm not going to change my name and put all the r's or roll the r's like you mentioned. I think that you started bringing that up, Keith, and I think that that sounds good but in reality, no, I think I'm going to keep it with just two r's."

"So, it's not a self-preservation Bill?"

"No, no. But probably after today, maybe I might consider it."

"All right. Thank you very much."

"Representative Reis."

"The Sponsor will yield." 09800055.doc 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Well, I believe that there is a company that… that raises them in Illinois. I don't have the name but…"

"They… they raise them… they raise them for zoos to mate with the zoos and they… they rent them out, I guess, to mate with… with the lioness and stuff like that. But the problem is they… that when the lion gets old and can't mate no more and can't produce or whatever you might well, what they want to do is they don't want to kill them and bury them; they want to sell them to consume to make whatever they make with it. Because… but the lion meat is, when you have lions cut up, it's all red and pink. So, you can't really tell what you're eating. They could sell that to anybody and you really probably won't know what you're eating."

"And… and Representative…"

"Well, I wish you would have told me this earlier."

"Representative Riley."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Representative Arroyo, I'm familiar with the… with the store that you were talking about. They did get in trouble. One of the things that they got in trouble for was selling animals that were clearly on the Endangered Species and you know, other byproducts of… of those animals. And so, it was something that… that was extremely important. But do you have any information about not… there's been questions asked about the production of… of lions and all of that type of thing. I think the issue is more of trafficking in these exotic meats. Is that… is that the case?"

"Yes." 09800055.doc 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"And by the way, just so you know, anything that consumes meat… any carnivore by its nature doesn't taste very good. So, you wanted to know about it. Actually, there's two people in this House who know something about that. To the Bill. Often, there are measures that we all might think are frivolous. For me, any Bill that's brought up by a Member is extremely important. All one needs to do is look at the proponents. I'm sure that the proponents of this piece of legislation would not deem it as being frivolous. All of the issues that we're dealing with that are deemed to be extremely important, well, we're going to get to them sooner or later. And so, to denigrate one's Bill, you wouldn't want anyone necessarily criticizing something that you thought was important to you. So, I am going to support this Bill, Representative Arroyo."

"Representative Hays."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"I'm sorry. I didn't hear. I was getting…"

"…interrupted here…"

"…with this trophy." 09800055.doc 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Yes, yes. I think the majority, they wanted to name him, Tasty. I don't know why, I mean… So, I think Tasty won."

"Representative Cavaletto."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Well, you know, the majority rules. If that's what you would like, well, I'll call him born free if you vote for the Bill."

"I need help. Can you help me out here?"

"Thank you very much."

"Representative Bost."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Thanks a lot."

"Representative Reboletti."

"He will."

"Yes."

"Well, I don't know how many other states banned it. But I know that in Florida they have a restaurant, they had a special the other day on TV where Fusion… the restaurant Fusion is selling tacos in Florida for $35 a taco. So, we want… we don't want those tacos to come here to Chicago to sell and to consume tacos for $35."

"So, I just want to make sure that… that… that trend doesn't come to Illinois. But yeah, I know that there's other, but I don't have that right now."

"I said I think there are a few, but I don't have the names with me right now."

"And there's nothing simple about this, Reboletti."

"No."

"No."

"No."

"Representative Sullivan."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"It says, a person meaning any individual, partnership or corporation assisted in a firm or cooperating with the purchase or selling the lion meat."

"I don't want to legalize…"

"I don't want to legalize… I don't want to legalize anything."

"Under the Act."

"No. No."

"I'll have to get back to you with that, too, Mr. Sullivan."

"I think it's… it's got a bunch of r's right now, but I…"

"…I don't want to give you the correct spelling be… if I'm going to spell it, I'm going to spell it wrong."

"So, it could be determined to be somebody else."

"Representative Brady."

"The Gentleman has moved the previous question. All those in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the question is put. Representative Arroyo to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you Members of the House. Since I see that everybody has an issue and has a problem with my lion meat, could you put it back on Second? Could you put it back on Second?"

"Representative, we will move this Bill back to the Order of Second Reading."

"Thank you. Thank you very much."

"Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Members, on the Order of House Bills on Second Read… Representative Reboletti."

"State your inquiry, Sir." 09800055.doc 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"We'll look into your inquiry right now, Sir."

"The parliamentarian is saying that you can take the Bill out of the record after the previous question has been moved. Representative Dunkin."

"Mr. Speaker, just a point of information. Representative Luis Arroyo, I've known you for a number of years. Now listen, are you acting like a scary cat or a lion? Just want to know. I was really looking forward to this vote. The trophy is nice and shiny, as tall as you are. Your name would look so nice emblazoned on that trophy. So, which one? You're a lion or a scary cat?"

"Representative Arroyo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Kenny, I'm not going to take the title from you. That title belongs to you, brother. Thank you very much."

"Representative Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just a point of personal privilege. Following up on the previous speaker, we have the award, the century club that some of our Members have won multiple times, I understand, but I think I would like to propose a new award after seeing the events of the day. And I'd like… think we should have it for those that pull it out of the record when it's probably pretty sure that 09800055.doc 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 they'd be members of the century club. I think the new award should be named the cowardly lion award. It'd just show that you would need a heart, that's all, to go forward into bravery, bravely taking on the century club. So, I'd… I'd like to create that new award today."

Speaker Turner: "Your request will be considered. Representative Kay."

"Representative Reboletti."

"Representative Reboletti, please review House Rule 59. Representative Reis. Your Motion is out of order, Representative. Members, moving to the Order of Second… House Bills on the Order of Second Reading, we have House Bill 62, Representative Ford. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." 09800055.doc 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Third Reading. Representative Reboletti."

"Representative Reboletti, would you like the parliamentarian to come and consult with you personally about this?"

"Thank you, Sir. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 62, Representative Ford. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Ford."

"Can we please move the Bill to Third? Oh, it's on Third? All right. I see two and then there's three. So, I just simply want to do something that's been started, I think, with the previous Leader, Turner, he tried to pass this Bill, sometime. I think it's now time to pass this Bill, and all it's simply does is count the prisoners at their 09800055.doc 88  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 last known address. And I move for the adoption of… or the passage of House Bill 62."

"Representative Bost."

"Okay, I will explain it. Okay. House Bill 62 does the following…"

"Members, we have a very important Bill that we are addressing. Can we keep the noise down in the chamber? Thank you."

"House Bill 62, as amended, this is what it does. It requires the Department of Corrections, that's IDOC, to maintain an electronic record of the legal resident and the demographics that's… the date of each person entering into custody after January 2014. It also requires IDOC to submit a report to… a prisoner's data to the Secretary of State by May 1 of each year. It also requires Secretary of State to request the same report from the federal correction facilities in Illinois. And it requires the Secretary of State to prepare the redistricting population for the general districts to reflect incarcerated persons at their last known residential address prior to incarceration. And that's what the Bill does."

"It's one person, one vote. We… this… what can happen, we could come up with a lot of different things, but this Bill is basically about territory and philosophy."

"There's still one person, one vote."

"Right."

"Only for redistricting purposes, only."

"Yes."

"Right."

"I would disagree."

"I mean, the… in Illinois, there's approximately about 47 thousand people incarcerated in Illinois' prisons and the majority of the people that's counted…"

"I could get it to you after the vote."

"Well, if there's no last known address, then it would be at the prison."

"Right. Yes."

"Right."

"Representative Fortner."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Written in the Bill, it's the last known address of the incarcerated person."

"From the intake upon entering the prison."

"It's important for them to give the best address because they may want to be released for parole and go back to the home district from which they came from, where their family and friends are, for the support after being incarcerated. So, you're going to find that people will do a very good job of reporting a… a very close to accurate, if not an accurate, address for reporting purposes."

"Well, that… that… we know that the county jail is a facility and it's not a home; therefore, it cannot be counted as a home address."

"Well, in… in that case, you know, right now what happens in Cook County jail, they count the prisoners there in Cook County because that's where they're coming from. So, the question… I'm sorry I can't answer where and how the reporting will take place for that one individual that just may happen…"

"You know, it's going to be few and far between."

"I understand you're doing hypotheticals here and…"

"…but we have to look at the underlying purpose."

"They would be excluded."

"If there's no known address, they would be excluded."

"I have no answer… I have no answer for you when it comes to if they report that the last known address. I believe what I had said before was that the Cook County jail cannot be counted as a home because it's a facility when it comes to the census for when the intake takes place in state penitentiaries or federal penitentiaries." 09800055.doc 94  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"That's correct."

"Well, once again, you're doing a hypotheticals here. "

"But the fact… the fact… the…"

"I'll tell you what the facts are. The facts are 60 percent of the people that enter the state penitentiaries return to Cook County, to the City of Chicago, to the west side and the south side. Those are facts. You're giving hypotheticals, what if."

"Well, Professor, I've got to tell you, no Bill is perfect but this addresses a major problem. And what about those… let's do another hypothetical. What happens if the person that decides… that's in prison, they decide after the census count to move to a district that the prison is in and they were counted at the home district? And now, what happens in that case? The family has moved and now they're living in the new district. So, it could balance out."

"You know… you know, I've worked with you and I understand, thanks to you, how it's done. And we… once again, this is a Bill that will address some concerns, address issues that's in Illinois. It would be the best Bill that we have at this time for Illinois. And we understand that… that on the federal level, as you have instructed, that they're not counted at all."

"And so, I don't want to disenfranchise. See, I wish that I could do a Bill to say that they should be counted."

"Representative Moffitt."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"No."

"No."

"I mean, there's already a form of verifying a person, where they come from, from the intake process and their… their… if they have a rap sheet, if they have a driver's 09800055.doc 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 license, if they have things like that… then that's going to be some form of verification. But in the Bill, the answer's no."

"Do… I'm sorry, I didn't hear you?"

"I didn't hear you?"

"No, I don't have a list of who would lose populations, but I do tell you this, that every district and the… every House Member will continue to maintain 108,730 people in their district. It's not about losing people; it's about making sure that we have one person, one vote. So, the way the General Assembly is set up, we all have to have the same number of… the same population count in order to represent in the State of Illinois. So…"

"It should not change the population. We're all going to have an equal number of people to represent in the State of Illinois if this Bill passes." 09800055.doc 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"The… the number will stay the same, but the districts will do what?"

"Okay."

"No."

"No."

"Because this is not until 2020, the next census."

"This is not until 2020, the next census count."

"And… and… and it's not a Constitutional Amendment; therefore, the answer is no."

"No. We… we have proof that that's not happening because it has passed in four other states and not one state has repealed it, and I know the previous speaker spoke about having difficulties of doing it in one of the states. And that's like any other initiative that starts out, you get started and things get better. And we have enough time under this measure, until 2020, to get it right. So, this 09800055.doc 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 is the right time, it's early enough and it's the right thing to do."

"The Secretary of State will be required for federal residents of Illinois to get the counting reported to the census."

"They will be counted also in a census. It'll be up to the Secretary of State to get the data from the federal system."

"No, they would be counted at their last known address. And this is also important because if the federal person, the person that's in federal penitentiary, is not from Illinois, then we will not count them in our count. We would dismiss them in our count because they're not residents of Illinois."

"Many times."

"You know, I think it's the right time."

"You know, I don't have the answer. I just know that I've been here since 2007 and I've been trying it ever since 2007."

"There's no opposition."

"Pardon me?"

"No. We… you guys took care of that and now, I'm better informed that there's no cost, thanks to the people on your side. I appreciate that."

"Where would the person be? Where are they at? If they're in… are they in prison at this time?"

"Yeah. They'll receive it there."

"Well, that's a possibility. I mean, I can't answer that. I mean…"

"I… I can't answer that. I… I'm sure if it's a… an emergency, it's going to be at the nearest emergency room."

"And I understand…"

"Which is… which is a good point because, guess what? That emergency room will receive the benefits of caring for that person and receive the payments for caring for that person."

"Well, I mean… I think things are getting better in the state. If you've been reading the… the budget analysis and things like that, I think the state is moving forward."

"I don't understand your question."

"Well, I can't answer that. I mean, because this Bill really doesn't deal with all the things that's being addressed right now. If we could deal with the underlying Bill, then I can answer those questions."

"That's not true because throughout the year, throughout the year, every time something happens in that county, in that area, they're receiving the benefits of those prisoners at that time. So, if they filed papers then they're going to receive the… the fees for filing the papers in that county. If they go to the hospital, they're 09800055.doc 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 going to receive the benefits of that person being in the hospital. If their families come visit them in the prison, they're going to receive the benefits of the families staying at hotels and buying gas. There's a lot of benefits for the home districts of prisons."

"Representative Reis."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"The definition of voting purposes?" 09800055.doc 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"That… it doesn't change it. This is all about one thing, counting the person at their last known address. That's it."

"No. Not in state facilities."

"The Gentleman has requested a verification on the vote. Representative Christian Mitchell." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. So, I… I want to make sure that we're all very clear about what this Bill says. I understand there have been kind of previous iterations as… as to something of this type, this is a very different Bill. So, let's first note that it does nothing to… to impact funding formulas or allocations. But… but let's talk about the fact this has already actually been adjudicated in several places. So, first of all, both the U.S. and Illinois Constitution clearly state that prison is not a legal address. It is not a legal address. So, what… what we're seeing in practice is people using what is called usual address, which is where someone sleeps and eats but is not, according to the Constitution, their actual address. So this will address a problem by allowing their last known address, their legal address, to be used. The U.S. Supreme Court just upheld a Maryland version of this Bill, so it's already precedented. This has been done. This is not crazy. This is the right thing to do. Now, somebody asked about moving and address and other effects of redistricting. When the census numbers are taken on 09800055.doc 106  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 April 1, you could have moved the day before or the day after, for the next 10 years you are at that residence legally. So, the census does not verify and movement is only accounted for in so far as it happened before April 1, so this Bill would also be in line with that. But let's just note exactly what's happening here. The bottom line is that the reason why this was upheld is when you look at what happens with gerrymandering, especially as it involves prison, is you have majority African-American, Latino population going to majority white districts. So, the reason why this was upheld is because it violates the vote dilution provision of the Voting Rights Act. Right? So, this is a Bill that would help remediate something that is actually already illegal according to precedent in statute, precedent in law, precedent in legal opinion. So, this is a different Bill than was done in the past. This is the right thing to do. It is getting us back in line with what is already required by federal statutes. I strongly urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Cassidy."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. A lot of what I've… what we've heard today has… has raised really what is a red herring. This will not affect funding to these communities. It very specifically states in the Bill that… that the communities with these facilities in them will not lose funding. This… this… the data that will be… that will be utilized will… will have absolutely no impact on the distribution of state or federal funding. There are already 19 counties and cities here in Illinois that correct their 09800055.doc 107  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 data for the purposes of their local redistricting. This is already being implemented. As… as the previous speaker said, this is based on a… on a law in Maryland that has been upheld. This is a good Bill; it is a timely Bill. It has absolutely zero impact on funding. Be clear. In spite of everything that we've heard during this debate, there is not a single community with a facility that is going to lose a penny of their aid from the State or Federal Government as a result of this Bill. This will merely create a fair and accurate map when… when redistricting time comes, reflecting where people actually live and comport with the State and Federal Constitution. I strongly urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Lilly."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move the previous question."

"The Lady moves the previous question. All those in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the question is put. Representative Ford to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to say that this initiative is already been successful in four different states and no one, not one state, has repealed the law. So, I think that this is the right time and I want to thank the previous speakers for speaking on this. And I certainly respect those that want to protect what they believe would be something that's good for their community, but I think it's time for this Bill to pass. And once again, I want to thank Leader Art Turner, the previous one, for bringing this Bill forward years ago. Thank you very much." 09800055.doc 108  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Ladies and Gentlemen, Representative Reis has moved for a verification. So, all Members are called to vote their own switch. And on that, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 62 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative DeLuca. Representative Lang. Representative DeLuca. Representative DeLuca. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 60 voting 'yes', 55 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 62, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Reis, would you like to continue with your verification?"

"Mr. Clerk, please read the affirmative votes."

"Representative Reis."

"Representative Burke is in the chamber."

"Representative Mautino voted 'no'."

"Representative, would you like to proceed with your verification?"

"Not at all, Sir."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman's verification has been withdrawn. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 60 voting 'yes', 55 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 62, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Reboletti."

"Representative, we made an inquiry of the parliamentarian and we'll address your concern in one second." 09800055.doc 111  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"Representative Hays."

"Please state your point, Sir."

"Representative Sacia."

"Representative Sullivan."

"Representative Kay."

"Please state your point, Sir."

"Yes, Sir."

"Representative Dunkin."

"Speaker, I'd like to speak to some of my colleagues who seem to have wanted… point of personal privilege."

"Please state your point, Sir." 09800055.doc 114  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013

"You know, folks, this Bill addresses or addressed what we have been talking about over here for the last several years, a number of us at least. Prisoners coming back to the City of Chicago, or anywhere in the state, needs to be accounted… accounted for in their respective home state or home municipality or county or city. They put a… an additional burden or pressures on the water mains in Chicago, in Rockford, in Danville, in East St. Louis when they leave those respective prisons. And so, when they're not accounted for, they don't get the matching dollars in those respective cities as well. So, you can't have it both ways. You don't have a transitional program. You don't have the reentry programs there when they get out. You don't even want them in your district when they get out of the joint. You want to send them back to Chicago, back to Rockford and some of these other major metropolitan areas. You want to get rid of them. Once their time is done, you give them a train ticket or a bus ticket. So, let's stop thinking that we're fooling ourselves; that's the reality. They come right back to some of our neighborhoods. And we're saying, we just want them accounted for. That's all. But to sit here and talk about our young able Speaker who has been fair with most of all of us, is unfortunate. He's simply trying to do his job. It's not perfect down here. We recognize fairness and you know this man, this Speaker, our Leader, is most equal and most fair. So, that's unfortunate to hear because you know the facts. And the fact of the matter is, the Bill passed. The verification was successful. And so, let's not cry over spilled milk 09800055.doc 115  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 unnecessarily 'cause you'll get another chance here, my friends. You can run the Bill again, or another Bill thereof, a version of it, and let it hit the floor. Let it go up or down on its own merits. Let's grow up in some respect and not be so accusatory. The Bill was passed successfully by 60 votes. It's over."

"Representative Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for a point of personal privilege."

"Please state your point." Davis, M.: "First… first, I'd like to commend you for your ability to withstand the pressures of that seat in which you stand. I think you're certainly an excellent person to have received this achievement."

"Thank you, Representative. Thank you." Davis, M.: "And I also would like to urge the Body, let's see how many enhanced penalty Bills we'll pass, let's see how many new Bills we'll put in the Criminal Code if that population is no longer valuable to certain groups. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Thank you. Representative Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Real briefly, as some of the previous speakers indicated, I've… I've been here awhile. I would like to know… I would really like to know what the Speaker did wrong? What he did wrong? There were 60 votes; there were 60 people here. That Bill went through committee with a majority of vote. It got 60 votes per the Constitution. There were 60 people here. To, in any way… any way, disregard or disrespect the ability of the Speaker 09800055.doc 116  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 for him following the Rules of the House and passing a Bill and running this chamber in a respectful way is absolutely absurd."

"Thank you. Representative Christian Mitchell." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for a point of personal privilege."

"State your point, Sir." Mitchell, C.: "So, I just want to say a couple of things. You know, first of all, the previous Bill that was just passed addresses something that was already improperly done, something that needed to be corrected and in fact, we've got 19 counties, including Danville, who already do this. So, what I would hope is that going forward we could just continue to have a debate about the facts and just to talk to each other as equals. I… I have the highest respect for the Gentleman who rose to berate the Speaker, but I just think that the personal attack was unfortunate and that we should try our best to make sure that even as we have impassioned debates, that we do so on the basis of facts, that we make sure not to attack folks who are doing their job and for the most part, doing it well. I think it's unhelpful to this chamber and unhelpful for the public policy that we're all here to pass. Thank you."

"Representative Durkin."

"Representative Jones."

"Mr. Speaker, point of personal privilege."

"Please state your point, Sir."

"You know, I stand and rise in support, not only of you as our Leader, but you know, I think I've heard many times, before someone blasted someone, they say I have the highest esteem for you and I think that was… that happened today. It's kind of sad that we have gone to this level and we've… you know, you've been attacked and I kind of find that offensive. And just… just would point out to the Representative that if he wants to continue with those comments, maybe next time he should run as a Democrat and not… not consider attacking the Speaker, you, as our Leader. And now, I know we have a lot of important issues 09800055.doc 118  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 55th Legislative Day 5/15/2013 that are coming up. We talk about respect for each other and people listening, our residents listening. Our residents heard what you said you said about our Leader. Our residents heard how you disrespected our Leader, and I don't take that lightly. And hopefully, Representative Kay, if you want to be a Democrat, next time run as a Democrat."

"Representative Bost."

"Representative Reboletti."

"Please state your point, Sir."

"Representative Brady."

"Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

Speaker Turner: "Mr. Clerk, committee announcements. Representative Currie moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolutions are adopted. Committee announcements, Mr. Clerk."

"And now, allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk, Representative Currie moves for the adjournment of the House from… all in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. And the House will adjourn 'til Thursday, May 16 at 2 p.m. Thank you."