Illinois House Floor Debate — May 28, 2013

"All Members are asked to be at their seats. We shall be led in prayer today by Pastor Craig Sweet, who is the Pastor of Sherman United Methodist Church in Sherman, Illinois. Pastor Sweet is the guest of Representative Poe. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off all cell phones and rise for the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance."

"We shall be led in the Pledge of Allegiance today by Representative Flowers." Flowers – et al: "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Speaker Turner: "Roll Call for Attendance. Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record show that not a single House Democrat is excused today." 09800065.docx 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"Representative Bost."

"Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 118 present, a quorum is established. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Osmond, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Please state your point, Ma'am."

"Welcome to your Capitol. Representative Sandack."

"Please state your point, Sir." 09800065.docx 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"Welcome to your Capitol. Representative Pihos."

"Welcome to your Capitol. Representative Hurley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A point of personal privilege."

"Please state your point, Representative."

"Please welcome Tish Williams. She is the daughter of Paul and Erma Williams. She is here from the 35th District serving as an Honorary Page."

"Welcome to your Capitol. Representative Senger."

"Please state your point, Representative."

"Welcome to your Capitol. Representative Meier."

"Please state your point, Sir." 09800065.docx 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"The Body please have a small moment of silence. Thank you. Representative Davidsmeyer, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Please state your point."

"Welcome to your Capitol. Members, we want to begin on page 4 of the Calendar. We're going to move some Senate Bills from Second Reading to Third starting with Senate Bill 56, Representative Cassidy. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third. Senate Bill 104, Representative Franks. Out of the record. Senate Bill 21… excuse me, Senate Bill 1221, Representative Soto. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1330, Representative McAsey. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1495, Representative Kelly Burke. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1664, Representative Burke. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1968, Representative Brady. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Leader Lang in the Chair."

"Senate Bill 1772, Mr. Turner. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Turner."

"Floor Am… thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment #2 is simply a technical Amendment. And I'd just like to move it to Third."

"Those in favor of the Amendment will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills-Third Reading, Senate Bill 1493, Mr. Sullivan. Please read the Bill. Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. Senate Bill 1550, Mr. Sandack. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Sandack."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Representative Pihos."

"The Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Zalewski."

"Mr. Speaker, to the Bill. I rise in support of the Gentleman's Bill. My conversations with the advocates for the Bill are that there are instances where the school simply needs to offer these as IEPs because the children with the disability simply doesn't have the life skills they need to prepare themselves and this is one area where there's a 09800065.docx 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 lacking need for a policy change. The Gentleman's got a good Bill. I support it and I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Harms."

"Mr. Reis."

"The Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Mitchell." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields." Mitchell, C.: "Representative Sandack, could you just explain… so, this Bill seems pretty narrowly focused and it says that it just removes the language of 'where appropriate' and kind of tries to emphasize independent living skills with these plans. Could you just kind of explain to the Body what the genesis of this legislation was and how it's going to be helpful to these kids?"

"Representative Mayfield."

"To the Bill. I'd just like to say that this is very important legislation. Having worked with this part… population, when you're dealing with individuals with developmental and cognitive disabilities the problem is that they are not getting the skill sets they need postgraduation from high school. Many of them are still living in the homes with their fathers and their mothers. They're receiving Social Security benefits and they're being told that they can't work. What this will allow them to do is to go into vocational job programs. This will allow them to be able to take public transportation, things that they're being told now when they're graduating that they cannot do. This will allow them to be able to develop the skill sets that are needed, so they are not constantly being taken advantage of by other individuals. We want to make sure that we are giving 09800065.docx 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 these students every opportunity possible to be successful and so they can have that quality of life. They shouldn't have to live at home their entire lives. They should be able to move out, get jobs and be productive. Let's not hold these students back. Let's give them the opportunities that they need. I recommend an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Riley."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"Representative Sandack, a lot of things have been said in this discussion, but wouldn't you say that the fact that you say include measurable postsecondary goals is important. It's not amorphous postsecondary goals. It's measurable meaning using statistical analysis and having metrics to actually measure what's being happened… what's happening."

"To the Bill. This is a good Bill. It is… it's just that. Measurable goals, that's all that it does and I hope you give it your overwhelming support."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Sandack to close."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 78 voting 'yes', 39 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Please proceed, Sir."

"Welcome to the House. The Chair recognizes Leader Currie for a Motion."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. I move to suspend the posting requirement so that Senate Bill 1341 may be heard in the House Agriculture Committee; Senate Bills 572, 1687, 1739 and 2187 in House Executive; Senate Bills 1454, 1756 and House Joint Resolution 43 in House Human Services; Senate Bill 1547 in Insurance; Senate Bills 115 and 1006 in Judiciary; Senate Bills 1659, 1816 and 2243 in Revenue; Senate Bill 1911 in the Rules Committee and Senate Bill 2381 in State Government. I know of no opposition and I'd appreciate your support for the Motion."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Motion is adopted. The Chair recognizes Mr. Bost."

"How long do you expect it will be?"

"The House will be in recess until the hour of 2:00 and the Republicans will caucus in Room 114. Democrats, enjoy your lunch. The House will be in order. On page 2 of the Calendar, under the Order of House Bills-Second Reading, appears House Bill 208, Mr. Dunkin. Please read the Bill." 09800065.docx 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"Mr. Dunkin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the General Assembly here in the House. I'd like for us to move to adopt Floor Amendment #1 for House Bill 208."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Amendment. And the Chair recognizes Representative Hammond. Representative, would it be all right with you if we adopted the Amendment and debated this on Third Reading? Seeing no objection, those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read House Bill 208 for a third time."

"Mr. Dunkin."

"Yes, I would ask that we, now that we've adopted the Amendment, vote on the Bill."

"The Chair recognizes Mr. Bradley. Mr. Bradley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Before we begin the budget process, I think it's important that we offer an explanation of what occurred in the House Revenue & Finance Committee yesterday. At the beginning of the year when we adopted a 09800065.docx 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 revenue estimate in a bipartisan manner, we relied on the Commission on Government Forecasting and Accountability to provide that number to us. It was universally accepted by all of the groups that came before our committee including the Department of Revenue, Office of Management and Budget, and many other groups throughout the state. Since the adoption of that Resolution, Commission on Government Forecasting and Accountability, due to the paying down of the backlog of income tax refunds, has indicated that we need to adjust the income tax refund rates and the income tax refund fund. As a result of doing that, it's estimated that that would increase the revenue available to the State of Illinois by a number of $350 million. That would increase the revenue estimate for the House of Representatives which was previously adopted which was relied upon by the information given to us by COGFA from 35.081 to 35.431. We relied on them for the original estimate. They have come back. They have said that given more information that they have now and changes in the forecasting with regards to this specific portion of the budget that this is a more accurate number and the one that we should be adopting. So, I believe that the appropriation committees are relying on that number in terms of balancing their budgets, living within the state's means and moving forward on these appropriation Bills. That's why I have been asked to speak to offer the explanation. I would anticipate possibly at some point that we would be asked or given the choice of officially adopting a Resolution to that effect, but at least for the moment whether that happens it's important to know that that 09800065.docx 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 is the basis and premise for the moving forward with these appropriation Bills."

"Representative Hammond."

"Mr. Franks."

"Mr. Speaker, I have a parliamentary inquiry. Was Amendment #1 adopted?"

"Mr. Clerk, what is the status of Amendment 1?"

"Thank you. And my problem is on my computer I have no analysis and I don't know if that's a problem that the other Members have as well, but I can't determine whether… some of the issues."

"Could LIS go to Mr. Franks' desk to see if you can help him? They're coming, Sir."

"Thank you."

"We'll move on and come back to you."

"I didn't know if I was the only one. Thank you." 09800065.docx 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and I think I have to rise on a point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed." Harris, D.: "Thank you. I'm not actually addressing the Bill. I was hoping to speak shortly after the distinguished chairman of the Revenue Committee spoke to address the comments that he made regarding the additional revenue estimate or the additional revenue that might be coming in the State of Illinois and thus changing the revenue estimate. I'd like, first of all, to be clear about what the Gentleman said. He said COGFA has adjusted its revenue estimate. I don't think that's entirely accurate. I don't think they have adjusted their revenue estimate, but what they have said is that we have extra money in the refund fund that can be used. So, I agree with the Gentleman's point that above the 35.081 billion that we said was going to be the revenue for FY14 we very well may have an additional $350 million available. However, let us not lose sight of the fact that just last year, one year ago, this House passed a revenue estimate of $33,700,000,000 after COGFA had come in and said we think our revenue's going to be 33.9. That's what the testimony was in committee, but we, the House, wisely and judiciously said no, we want to be conservative. We're going to pass a revenue estimate of 33.7 rather than the 33.9 that COGFA said was going to come in. This year COGFA came in and said we think our revenue estimate's going to be 35.081. The House Revenue Committee said, you know, we're going to go along with that this year, 35.081. The House here passed a Resolution that 09800065.docx 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 said our revenue estimate was going to be 35.081. So, now, just because we have potentially $350 million, we're going to change the revenue estimate. Why, why? We were conservative a year ago and it served us well. Why do we have to raise the revenue estimate simply because the objective is to spend every single penny that comes in to our state coffers? That is not the right thing to do. You heard the Lady over here say we still have 7.5 billion in unpaid bills at the end of the fiscal year. Why do we have to spend every single penny? So, I was just addressing the Gentleman's remarks. We don't have a specific change in the Resolution on the floor. That may come tomorrow. We may debate it tomorrow, but as we… if we do that, let's remember we don't have to raise the revenue estimate just to accommodate more spending. Maybe we should cut back on the spending. Thank you."

"Mr. Pritchard."

"The Sponsor yields."

"Yes, there was an agreement… with Democrats."

"Representative, friend and colleague, you and I have worked for two years on the Appropriations for Higher Education Committee with me as chairman. Every year it's been the same. I insisted on every Member to work on our budget line by line as we have done over the last two years. As a 09800065.docx 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 matter of fact, last year you… your last Minority Spokesperson, Chapin Rose, crafted the budget alongside me, alongside us. Your handprint was all over it. As a matter of fact, you voted for it to get out of committee and you, Representative, voted for it on the House Floor last year, so absolutely. We're colleagues. We've known each other, we've shared inside and information on higher education and how we can solve our respective state's issues and taking our schools to the next level. You, as well, produce a performance review that all universities are adhered to at the state level and I support that legislation. So, you and your current Leadership have always had a chance and an opportunity…"

"…to work with us at the lev… at this level."

"We didn't… Yes, absolutely. That's…"

"Well, Representative, that's in the Bill right now. We have another Bill right after this that speaks to…"

"Representative, we allocated $6.1 million to performance based outcome which and then… in turn, the Illinois State Board of Higher Education then made the allocations to the 11 universities."

"Correct."

"Correct."

"Representative…"

"That's not true, Representative. We’ve had every university, ICCB, ISA, organizations that are bridged from high school to higher education or a college or a university come before us and address every concern or most of the concerns that's in House Bill 208. You do recall that…"

"…correctly? So, we did discuss it, correct?" 09800065.docx 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"Well, Representative… Representative, it…"

"Representative, as the chair of the House Revenue Committee stated, we received additional revenue and our committee, the committee that you and I share, received $66 million additionally… $67 million additionally. We then gave $35 million to the Elementary & Secondary Appropriations Committee to disseminate for early childhood education, general state aid and transportation to downstate transportation, mind you, as well. So, those dollars went to places and sources that all of us here in this chamber believe in, educating our young people in elementary and secondary education as well as early childhood education and the transportation to get them there. That's what this, House Bill 208, stands for."

"Yes, absolutely. That's in this Bill with some of the bridge programs that we talked about in committee and keep in mind, Representative, there's not one state university that has been reduced its funding since last year."

"Representative, I can only speak of the higher education. All colleges and universities claim that they're under… underfunded."

"But what we were…"

"…we were fortunate this year."

"Representative…"

"That is not higher education money. And keep in mind and I don't know why it is that we continuously want to highlight one particular school out of the entire state. Have you seen University of Illinois's budget, Eastern's budget…"

"…Northern Illinois's budget?" 09800065.docx 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"Their budgets are twice as much as Chicago State University and less as diverse."

"Oh, now."

"Is that right?"

"Well, why is Chicago State such a highlight, Representative?"

"As we do in all of our state universities, so I don't distinguish any particular university out other than when they're doing something great primarily. But somehow we're harping on this Chicago State for some reason."

"Representative, you… the president of Chicago State University addressed our committee on more than one occasion. You should have asked him that question because I can’t answer. What I'm trying to get resolved this afternoon…"

"Representative, now you know as well… Representative…"

"Representative, the…" 09800065.docx 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"The $1.6 million came out of the horse racing/casino money that was debated earlier this week, not out of our committee. We had nothing to do with that. This House Bill, 208, has nothing to do with that, Representative."

"Mr. Dunkin to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I just ask for an 'aye' vote on House Bill 208. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Ford, Mr. Thapedi. Please take the record. On this question, there are 69 voting 'yes', 48 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 6 of the Calendar appears Senate Bill 1912, Mr. Sims. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill for a third time."

"Mr. Sims."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1912 amends the Code of Civil Procedure. It covers settlements dealing with personal injury, property damage, wrongful death and tort actions. This Bill serves to treat settlements in the same vein as judgments for the purposes of the payment of the proceeds between parties. It's a wonderful Bill and I ask for adoption."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Sandack."

"The Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Sandack, I'm the Sponsor of the Bill."

"There are proponents of the Bill. They are the Illinois Trial Lawyers."

"Well, as I said in my opening remarks, this treats settlements similarly to judgments. In statute, currently, we have judgments that when a judgment happens parties are… they're required to pay. Under this Bill, you would treat settlements in the same vein."

"They're not."

"Well, in this Bill… this Bill deals with when parties settle, they come to an agreement between those two parties. This says that when those parties agree, if they're going to live by the tenets of the agreement, this Bill encourages that."

"Mr. Sandack, this… the language in Senate Bill 12… 1912 specifically says that the parties have to agree."

"That the agreement that any action that takes place happens after an agreement between the parties."

"As the language of the Bill says, the parties have to tender… have to have a tender within 14 days. After the tendering of the payment, within 30 days after that time, then payment has to be made."

"So, a total of 44… a total of 44 days between the time… minimum of 44 days between the time the agreement starts and ends."

"A require… it's an agreement between parties is required."

"If there is no written agreement, no agreement between parties, and as you look at the language, there was accommodations made to make sure that we outlined what was a written communication. So, we clarified that."

"Mr. Sandack, I believe you asked that question and I answered that question."

"Mr. Sandack, you asked that question. I answered that question."

"Under this Bill, dealing with settlements between parties, as I've indicated before, unless the parties… when the parties agree, they can move forward with a settlement under this case. That is what Senate Bill 1912 calls for."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Your request is acknowledged, Sir."

"The Sponsor yields."

"Their opposition was based… there were a number of opp… points of opposition. We’ve attempted to work through those and I think we've done that in a number of cases. There were issues raised with whether there was a… what was a written communication. We addressed that with one of the Amendments. There was an issue raised with timing as the Bill came from the Senate. We've addressed that to address their concerns. That's why you will see that the Illinois Manufacturer… Illinois Retail Merchants are now neutral on the Bill because we've worked to address their opposition."

"That's correct."

"Well, first off, Representative, you won't have to pay the interest immediately, but let's also… let's talk back through how this process plays out. When we have these parties to a settlement, these are parties who have agreed to settle this 09800065.docx 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 case, so we're not forcing them to do anything that they’re not already doing. These parties have agreed to settle a case to move the process forward. This Bill helps to maintain the integrity of our process."

"The essence of a settlement is there's no agreement until there is an agreement."

"Right now there is no mechanism. That's why Senate Bill 1912 is necessary because there's no mechanism right now to enforce settlements."

"So, we… so, we are… I'm trying to answer your question, Mr. Reboletti. We are trying to make sure that if you enter into a settlement that the tenets of that settlement are agreed to and lived by, by all parties."

"But Mr. Reboletti, I think you just proved my point for why Senate Bill 1912 is necessary. What you just… what you just acknowledged is that the part… the complaining party has to incur additional legal costs, go back into court to enforce an agreement that the parties agreed to. That is why we're… that's why we're trying to make… that's why we're trying do 1912."

"Mr. Martwick."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"Representative Sims, in just reading in our analysis it says that there is an exemption to this, that the parties in their negotiations could agree that these provisions do not apply. Is that still correct?"

"That is correct."

"So, let me get this straight. They're negotiating a settlement and these rules are in place that would say that they must pay within 30 days or they would face interest, but they could agree in the settlement that the provisions of 09800065.docx 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 this law do not pertain to this settlement that they're negotiating."

"That's absolutely correct. As… Mr. Martwick, as you rightfully acknowledged, unless agreed to by the parties is in the Bill. So, if the parties enter into a settlement agreement and they somehow say I cannot pay you within the 30 days, but we can agree to pay you over a three months or six months or nine month period then the can agree to that. It's driven by the parties."

"Thank you. That's all I have."

"Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"I'm following up on Mr. Martwick's comments. So, this is not a mandate. This is… allows… it's just another avenue for the parties to come to a settlement, isn't it?"

"That's correct."

"The problem that I think you're trying to fix and one of the previous speakers said that this is really a solution in search of a problem, but that's not true. I think the problem is when there is a settlement and then for some reason it's not paid and then it's laid out there for quite some time and the injured party is not getting what they've been promised. Isn't that the problem you're trying to fix?"

"That is absolutely correct, Mr. Franks."

"And this also helps, I think, let's assume we’re talking about a medical malpractice case. This would also help the doctors because there would be some finality here, correct?"

"That's correct." 09800065.docx 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"And also it would help the doctors because then there wouldn't be a judgment necessarily against them that there could be a settlement where they wouldn't necessarily have to agree that they were negligent, correct?"

"That's correct."

"'Cause what happens now sometimes if there's a settlement and the insurance company doesn't pay even though the doctor directs them to and the insurance company doesn't pay what could happen now is that the harmed party can then go to the judge and say, you know what, they never paid, let's open this suit and I want a judgment against that doctor, correct?"

"That's correct."

"So, that would take away… this would actually help them because of the finality…"

"Absolutely."

"…correct? Now, this interest rate deal, that's 9 percent, that would only kick in as if there was a settlement, it was signed, that it was agreed to and then for some reason the insurance company didn't pay, right?"

"That's correct."

"But in no other circumstance would this go into effect."

"That's correct."

"And there's also the opportunity for the parties to say, you know what, we don't even agree to that. We're not going to pay any interest and instead of paying you in 30 days we can't get you the money that quick. It's going to be 120 and they can agree to that, can’t they?"

"That is correct." 09800065.docx 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"Okay. I can't understand why anybody'd be against this Bill."

"Your confusion goes with mine, Mr. Franks."

"Okay. Well, to the Bill, Mr. Speaker. I believe this is a Bill that helps injured parties get what they deserve because I've seen all too often when there's been a settlement that the insurance company just doesn't pay. Insurance companies don’t make money by paying settlements. They make money by delaying in paying settlements. And those folks who are harmed are entitled to be made whole. This is… there's enough procedural safeguards in this Bill to allow the parties to opt out and I think most insurance companies are very good actors. I think what you see here are the fly-by-night companies who are the cut-rate insurance ones who aren't paying. And as a result, everybody's harmed and it also puts the physicians at risk because then it opens them up to additional liability through judgments. This is a commonsense Bill that'll help everyone and I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Sacia."

"Mr. Drury."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Based on the most recent analysis, I believe I have a potential conflict of interest. I'll be voting 'present'."

"Mr. Bost."

"The Gentleman yields."

"Well, Mr. Bost, as you… since you're not an attorney, let me talk to you a little bit about our professional Code of 09800065.docx 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 Ethics. You have to… if you have a conflict of interest, it is up to you to acknowledge that conflict and make that conflict known."

"Mr. Kay."

"The Sponsor yields."

"Representative Kay, as you know, at the federal level there have been changes… there's been… the Federal Smart Act will allow for certain changes to occur. We talked about this in committee a little bit. So, that was one of the reasons why we mo… we changed the effective date from an immediate effective date to an effective date of January 1. There are supposed some changes in the Smart Act coming into place in October of 2013, so in recognition of that we moved the effective date to January 1."

"I'm sorry, Representative."

"Could you repeat that?"

"No, I would not agree with that."

"If the parties… if the parties do not live by the agreement, they could go back into court and seek to reinstate the lawsuit." 09800065.docx 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"No."

"Mr. Sims to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I want to thank all the Members on both sides for the wonderful debate we've had, but let me clarify a couple of points. First, this is a Bill for your constituents. This is a Bill that will make settlements easier. Two, this Bill, for those who are confused, there is a hostile Amendment that was filed. The hostile Amendment is not a part of the language of this Bill. Third, if the… I cannot stress this enough. If the parties agree, if they are living by the tenets of the 09800065.docx 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 agreement, then this changes nothing. If they are living by the agreement that they've agreed to and they are participating in that, this Bill helps that process. Vote 'aye'."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'… Excuse me, Mr. Clerk, just a reminder. Mr. Reboletti has asked for a verification. Members will be in their chairs and vote their own switches. Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? DeLuca. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 67 voting 'yes', 50 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. Mr. Reboletti, do you persist? Mr. Reboletti has asked for a verification. Mr. Clerk, please read the affirmative vote."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Mr. Rita."

"Wait, one… one at a time, Sir."

"Mr. Rita."

"Mr. Rita's right here in the front, Sir. And he's with Mr. Jones."

"On this question, there are 67 voting 'yes', 50 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Moving to page 3 on the Calendar, Senate Bill 1817, Representative Tracy. Representative Tracy. Out of the record. I skipped one. Senate Bill 105, Mr. Phelps, Mr. Phelps. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1830, Mr. Rita. 1830. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1842, Mr. Beiser. Out of the record. Senate Bill 2136, Mr. Davidsmeyer. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer."

Speaker Lang: "The Gentleman moves for the pa… Excuse me, Representative, I thought you were finished. The Gentleman 09800065.docx 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Should this Bill receive the requisite number of votes, I request a ver… I'm just joking. Just joking."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Beiser, Davis, Harris, Rita. Please take the record. On this question, there are 118 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 2154, Representative Hurley, who is standing and ready. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Hurley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Today I am presenting Senate Bill 2154. Senate Bill 2154 adds the offense of reckless driving while in a funeral procession and driving in a reckless manner that interferes with a funeral procession to the list of Illinois Vehicle Code violations that could employ impoundment proceedings. This Bill was cosponsored in the Senate by Senator Cunningham, Senator Emil Jones, Senator Ira Silverstein and Senator Jacqui Collins. I am open for questions and would appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"The Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Bost."

"In my district and in the southwest side of Chicago, yes."

"I am not sure the reason behind their behavior."

"Every Saturday and Sunday you will see this behavior."

"Correct."

"Saturdays, Sundays and funeral processions usually."

"Okay."

"I don't think everybody weaves, but there is participants in funerals who do weave, who drive into oncoming traffic, 09800065.docx 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 who drive at accelerated speeds and who drive across crosswalks and pedestrian ways."

"We have talked to the Cook County Sheriff's Department, the Chicago Police and they are using this as another tool to stop this behavior. They have issued tickets, but it doesn't seem to be working."

"Mr. Brady."

"The Lady yields."

"Representative Davis." Davis, M.: "Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Lady yields." Davis, M.: "Yeah. Representative Hurley, are there other instances in which vehicles are taken away from people?"

"The Illinois Vehicle Code has 12 other incidences. You can… I can list a few." Davis, M.: "Would you?"

"Certainly. Soliciting a prostitute, driving with…" Davis, M.: "Hold on, hold on. Now, if you're soliciting a prostitute, we can take your car?"

"Yes, you can, according to the Illinois Vehicle Code." Davis, M.: "Okay. I'd like to know how many times that happens, but go on."

"Okay. An attempt to… wait, hold on. A suspended driver's license, driving under the influence, operating a motor vehicle in attempting to commit a felony and 12 others. And recently, a few weeks ago, we passed another Bill out of the House that if you are… if you participated in a fraud that you can… home repair fraud, that they can impound your car for that as well." Davis, M.: "What do they do with these cars that they impound?"

"You have an administrative hearing." Davis, M.: "They have an administrative hearing and then does the person have to pay storage and towing and all of that?"

"That's a possibility, yes." Davis, M.: "Okay. To the Bill, Mr. Speaker. I will support this Bill truly against my better judgment because sometimes people who are driving a car in a funeral they're driving 09800065.docx 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 someone else's car. Frequently there may be a son who's driving the mother and the rest of the family. There may be a nephew or a cousin and actually there are a lot of laws on the books for all the behavior for which we want to take these cars. There's a law on the book against drinking and driving. There are laws on the books against endangering other people and driving. I mean, there are really… there are laws already there for all of this behavior that we want to capture. So, I'm really concerned that we're just changing something perhaps that we should just enforce the laws that are on the books. Those laws on the books should be enforced and they shouldn't wait 'til they get to the funeral… to the cemetery to enforce them. They should enforce them if this behavior is happening on the street on the way to the cemetery. So, because the people that send me here want this Bill, I will vote for it, but I really think it's bad legislation."

"Mr. Dunkin."

"Thank you, Representative, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Lady yields."

"So, I'm curious. Representative, where did this Bill come from? Was this from a particular municipality or is this another one of our great ideas down here?"

"This great idea came from the Cook County Sheriff's Department and also a discussion with the Chicago Police Department, Senator Cunningham, our local aldermen and local funeral directors."

"Okay. So, the… what about the Illinois Municipal League? Did they chime in on this?" 09800065.docx 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"I have not heard that, no."

"I think you and I talked briefly about this particular issue. You probably get one or two individuals who would do something like that. I think that's pretty dangerous, but how would we enforce this? So, this'll be State Law or would this be city law, local law?"

"It's for municipalities, but it would be throughout the state."

"I'm sorry."

"It's for municipalities, but it will be throughout the state."

"What about the County Sheriff's Association or the various police leagues? Where are they with this here?"

"Currently, it's just municipalities."

"Is there a cost associated with this?"

"If your car is impounded for reckless driving in a funeral procession, of course, you'd have an administrative hearing."

"So, the tow truck companies would make a nice, little windfall."

"Possibly."

"So, my colleague, Representative Monique Davis, Monique D. Davis stated that law's already on the books for this here. Is this… do we expect a drastic change as a result of this here in activity of arrests with various police?"

"We're looking for another tool to combat this behavior and they're hoping that this will have a dramatic effect on the behavior of the participants in the funeral processions." 09800065.docx 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"So, if this doesn't pass, can a municipality impose this type of ordinance on the books to deal with those erratic drivers who are driving reckless and dangerous in these funeral processions?"

"The alderman would look for a local ordinance originally, but was told that the General Assembly would have to pass enabling legislation first."

"Wait, the alderman did what now?"

"He wanted to write an ordinance regarding reckless driving in a funeral procession and he said it had to be… was told that the General Assembly would have to pass enabling legislation first."

"Now, who told him that? 'Cause I didn't realize that aldermen had to come to us to write particular ordinances on a traffic or a moving violation."

"Alderman O'Shea from the 19th Ward was down here and testifying in the Senate Committee."

"Did he present statutory information validating that statement? I've never heard of that. I know a couple of aldermen myself actually and they really come to me and say, hey, I need some statutory green light to make this happen. Or was he just saying that he think… he thought that's what the case was? That's a question."

"Can you repeat the question?"

"Repeat the question?"

"Yes, Sir."

"Your staffer said that?"

"No."

"Did you hear her staffer?" 09800065.docx 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"That was she said something else and I didn't hear you because you said something else."

"She's a sharp knife too, right?"

"Too?"

"So, did the alderman reference or cite an Illinois Administrative Code statute that said he or she had to come down here in order for this to pass?"

"I wasn't in the Senate Committee hearing."

"Do you know, Representative, the mayor right there? Let me see. What's his name? He's out of Des Plaines. Representative Mahoney. Am I saying that right? Moylan, Moylan. Representative Moylan, maybe he can answer that. He was a mayor of a city in this great state. I wonder if he can enlighten us. In order to pass a traffic violation they need to come down here and engage us."

"It's the Illinois…"

"And where in the statute does that exist?"

"It's the Illinois Vehicle Code. Okay. That's…"

"Okay. What Section? Let me pull up the Illinois…"

"11-503."

"…Vehicle Code on my computer. What? Say that Section again."

"11-503."

"Can you read that to us on…"

"I could."

"…for the record. Before you read that, are you a lawyer?"

"I am not."

"Neither am I. Do you play one on TV?"

"I do not." 09800065.docx 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"Why not?"

"I don't like TV."

"You don't like TV?"

"No."

"We don't have cable either at home, just so you know. We have regular television. Okay. You were saying counselor, lawyer, lawmaker. Can you… I thought you were going to read the… the statute… statutory that says they have to come down here to pass a driver's license… a moving violation in the big city."

"It's the Illinois Vehicle Code. And it says in, a) any municipality may consistent with this Section provide an ordinance procedure for the release of property, impounded vehicles and for the imposition of a reasonable administrative fee. And then it continues with the list of 12 Vehicle Code issues that we can impound a car. Not we, but the municipalities."

"It's says that in the… you're sure."

"Yes, Sir."

"All right. So, when was that last amended statutorily?"

"Mr. Dunkin, can you bring your remarks to a close, Sir."

"Sure. This is good stuff here, Mr. Speaker."

"It certainly is, Sir."

"You're a lawyer as well, right? I'm just trying to get our moving violations in order here statutorily."

"97th General Assembly."

"What'd it say?"

"97th General Assembly." 09800065.docx 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"What year was that?"

"Mr. Dunkin, can you bring your remarks to a close, Sir."

"Thank you for your wonderful answers, Representative."

"Thank you."

"Appreciate it. Thank you."

"That's it? You're done? Okay. Representative Reboletti."

"The Sponsor yields gladly."

"Yes, Sir."

"Yes, Sir."

"Correct."

"Mr. Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Hello, almost seatmate. I should tell your constituents that you do a wonderful job in Springfield and are you wearing black because of the Bill?"

"In honor of funerals and death with dignity and the respect, yes."

"All right. Have you ever heard of the term from the cradle to the grave?"

"Yes."

"Do you know the definition?"

"No."

"So, the definition is from birth to death the government's promise to take care of us from the cradle to the grave. You 09800065.docx 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 can feel secure and well-protected from the cradle to the grave. And that's what your Bill does. Congratulations. Vote 'aye'."

"Representative Davis." Davis, M.: "My name was used in debate, Mr. Speaker."

"Please proceed." Davis, M.: "And I want to ask a question of the Sponsor. When you take the vehicle will you also take their driver's license? And the second part of that is suppose the vehicle doesn't belong to them, but they're driving for a family member."

"I don't believe we take the driver's license, but I'll get back to you on that and if the car is borrowed, you still have the responsibility of the car ownership, yes." Davis, M.: "So, this is unique legislation for a unique part of our city. There's nothing like it and I'm sure, as Ken Dunkin has stated earlier… where's Representative Dunkin? As Representative Dunkin stated earlier, this is the kind of legislation that is specific and we're micromanaging the 19th Ward. So, we can micromanage the 19th Ward which I’m a part of, proudly so, but I just am concerned when we have all of these laws on the books for drinking and driving, a nuisance, reckless driving, gang behavior, shooting. Is it illegal to shoot at somebody? It's already against the law. But anyway, because I'm also from the 19th Ward I will have to vote for this Bill, but I do not urge anyone else to vote for this Bill."

"The Chair is confused. Mr. Cabello."

"Mr. Sullivan. Mr. Sullivan would like to give his time to Mr. Reboletti. All you needed to do is say his name in debate. He'd speak forever."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Mr. Hays."

"Mr. Hays, if you'd indulge me, there's only one more light on. Representative Burke." Burke, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Lady yields." Burke, K.: "Representative, you and Senator Cunningham and Alderman O'Shea have gone to extensive lengths to try and curb this problem before resorting to seeking legislation. Is that correct?"

"Yes." Burke, K.: "You've talked to the funeral directors in the area, you've talked to the cemetery that is the particular problem and to no avail these processions continue endangering the lives and property of people along the procession route into the funeral home or to the cemetery. Is that correct?"

"Yes." Burke, K.: "While your particular cemetery is not in my district, I do have numerous other cemeteries in my district. This sort of behavior has not happened there yet, but I can anticipate that someday it might and I think we… I would be very glad to have this law in effect. I think it's a good Bill. I support it and I thank you for bringing it to the floor."

"Thank you." 09800065.docx 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"Representative Hurley to close."

"Thank you everyone for your comments, questions and concerns. This law already allows for impoundment in more than a dozen incidences as I mentioned before. This is a commonsense solution to a very dangerous situation that is not only a threat to public safety, but an insult to the family members of the deceased who just want to bury their family members in peace. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Davis. Please take the record. On this question, all 118 Members of the House, including Representative… (unintelligible), voted 'yea', 0 voted 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Mr. Bost."

"Thank you, Sir. Senate Bill 2234, Mr. Zalewski. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We dealt with this matter earlier in the spring, but it's back with a change. It simply allows for the portability of value upon a voucher under the state's video gaming law. Additionally, we are adding some language that would allow for some cost savings potentially by creating a larger pool of companies that can test, 09800065.docx 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 laboratory test video gaming machines. If the Gaming Board feels that they need a larger pool to compete for this work, they'll be able to under this statute enactment. So, I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please vote your switches, Members. Fine, Tracy. Please take the record. On this question, there are 80 voting 'yes', 37 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 2255, Mr. Beiser. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Beiser."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This is an initiative of the Department of Natural Resources and it creates a mine electrician competency exam so that the state can certify mine electricians. Currently, they do… the state doesn't certify rather the electricians are certified through the Federal Government's Mine Safety and Health Administration. What this would do… and that test that I just alluded to from the Mine Safety and Health Administration, the test that we propose is nearly identical, but it adds an additional 30 questions that only pertain to Illinois laws and regulation. So, I'd ask for your favorable consideration. I'd be happy to answer any questions." 09800065.docx 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Mr. Cabello. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 2268, Mr. Kay. Mr. Kay. Out of the record. Senate Bill 2326, Leader Currie. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. We have long had a sales tax exemption for rolling stock. That is to say buses, trains, trucks, limos used in interstate commerce. The standards, however, are not totally uniform and this measure, as amended, would bring boats and aircraft into the same definition of what counts as interstate commerce as already applies to trucks and to other forms of transportation. The effective date would be January 1, 2014. That is to say new boats and aircraft bought after that time would have to meet the same tests that currently apply if it's the other kinds of rolling stock. I know of no opposition. I'd be happy to answer your questions. And I'd appreciate your support for uniformity and fair play in the Illinois sales tax law."

"The Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Franks." 09800065.docx 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Spons… will the Majority Leader yield?"

"The Sponsor yields. She yields."

"Representative, I appreciate… you've spent a lot of time on this and you and I have had many discussions and for the purpose of legislative intent, I'd like to read a few questions, if I may. This Bill provides that use as rolling stock is to be calculated on a 12-month period. How is that 12-month period determined?"

"It would be the date the aircraft or the boat is titled. So, the 12 months following that date would be the appropriate length of time."

"Thank you. The next question I have, is the Bill provides that for aircraft flight hours may be used in lieu of miles. This means that as long as aircraft owners keep records of flight hours they don't need to keep track of actual miles. Is that correct?"

"Correct."

"If an aircraft owner elects to use the trips method, can you explain how a trip is determined?"

"It's based on the manner in which the customer's invoiced. So, each invoiced flight will constitute a trip."

"What about a personal use by the owner? For example, if an owner takes a personal trip to Las Vegas and back, how many trips will that be considered?"

"That'll be one trip. Round trip flights by the owner are considered one trip."

"Thank you very much for that legislative intent and to the Bill. I appreciate the Majority Leader's work on this. I 09800065.docx 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 think it brings fundamental fairness and consistency to our Tax Code and I stand in support."

"Representative Hammond."

"Mr. Moffitt."

"The Sponsor yields."

"In fact, it removed all of the opposition."

"This Bill is now agreed to because it only applies to these items that are bought after January 1, 2014. So, people who bought something under one interpretation of the tax consequences will not be stuck with a retroactive Bill. And with the Amendment, there is no opposition from anyone as far as I know."

"That's my understanding."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And just to confirm what the Sponsor said. This Amendment, because of the prospective nature of it starting on January 1, was a significant change and a beneficial change for anyone who might already own an 09800065.docx 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 aircraft. Had this been applied retroactively there would be a possibility of having to redo depreciation schedules and the like, but since we’ve now made it prospective as of January the 1st, as the Lady said, the opposition has been removed. And it is a Bill which is a fair and equitable Bill for tax purposes and I encourage a 'yes' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Have all voted who wish? Davis, Kay. Please take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'yes', 5 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 2371, Mr. Hays. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Hays."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Flowers, Kay. Mr. Kay. Please take the record. On this question, there are 76 voting 'yes', 40 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Ladies and Gentlemen, we’re moving to page 09800065.docx 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 7 of the Calendar under Concurrences. Please check this Calendar and if you have a Bill on Concurrence where your Motion has come out of Rules, please be ready so we can move through these expeditiously. There are quite a few of them. So, I would appreciate it if you were ready, so would the rest of the Body. House Bill 49, Mr. Franks. Please read the Bill. Oh, excuse me, it's on Concurrence. Please proceed, Sir."

"This is a Bill we had passed unanimously. The Senate Floor Amendment, I move to concur with, which is just a technical Amendment."

"Those in favor of the Gentlemen's Motion vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Moylan, Sommer, Tryon. Mr. Sommer. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 49. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 83, Representative Dan Burke. Please proceed, Sir." Burke, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. I would move to concur with Senate Amendment #1. It removes the time associated with the prohibition on tethering of a dog. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Bellock, Harris, Hatcher, Hays, Tracy. Representative Tracy. 09800065.docx 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 Please take the record. On this question, there are 83 voting 'yes', 34 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 83. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk."

"Moving down the Calendar. House Bill 100, Mr. Costello. Mr. Costello. Out of the record. House Bill 189, Representative Cloonen. Out of the record. House Bill 513, Mr. DeLuca. Please proceed, Sir."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. I move to concur with Senate Amendment 1 to House Bill 513. When I presented this Bill originally, I had stated that there was going to be a change made in the Senate to make it more specific. That change has been made and I ask for your support."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 513. And this Bill, having received the 09800065.docx 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Returning to House Bill 100, Mr. Costello. Please proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Body. I would ask that the House concur with Senate Amendment 1 and 2 to House Bill 100. Senate Amendment 1 just makes the reporting a little more strict than it was before and also takes away the opposition from Equip from Equality… for Equality. Excuse me. Senate Amendment 2 just adds the word 'medical status'. It's a technical change. Thank you. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The Gentleman moves that the House concur in Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 100. Those in favor will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Ford, Osmond. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 100. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 595, Representative Nekritz. Please proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur in Senate Amendment #1. The underlying Bill is a licensing for condominium managers and those that… and the offices in which they work. There was a higher education requirement for those who had a supervisory license and what the Senate Amendment does is for, say, for those real estate brokers who already have the additional licensing, comparable licensing for real estate brokers, that they don't have to take the additional education for a… to be a supervisor for the condo manager license." 09800065.docx 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Bellock. Please take the record. On this question, there are 86 voting 'yes', 30 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 595. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 702, Representative Mayfield. Please proceed, Representative."

"Thank you, Speaker. This is an agreed upon Bill. When it passed out of the House, we had talked about… there was the agreement that they would amend it in the Senate and then bring it back over here. Basically, what this Bill does it deals with the issue of the sharps and how they are disposed of. The Illinois Environmental Protection Agency actually wrote the Amendment. There is no opposition to this Bill and it actually addresses issues from a couple companies… from a company specifically in my district and another company just to the north within Rep… Osmond's district. I'm open to any questions. I recommend an 'aye' vote."

"The Lady moves to concur in the Senate Amendment. The Chair recognizes Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"In the underlying Bill, Representative, the IEPA was an opponent. Now, are they for the Bill?"

"Yes, they wrote the Amendment."

"Okay. So, that took away their concern?" 09800065.docx 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"Yes."

"Okay. Are there any fees in this? I know there were some in the first issue…"

"No."

"…thinking there was some question of the transportation of the sharps. So, there's no additional cost?"

"No, the transportation of sharps has to be done by the facility that is rendering them noninfectious."

"Okay. Well. I appreciate your work on this to making a better Bill. Thank you."

"Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Harris, Mitchell. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 702. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 827, Mr. Moylan. Please proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to concur with Senate Floor Amendment #1. Senate Floor Amendment #1 fixes a technical problem with the Bill as it left the House by adding the word 'member' in a place where it was accidentally left out."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Bellock, Unes. Please take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting… 103 voting 'yes', 13 voting 'no', 1 voting 09800065.docx 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 'present'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 827. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1017, Representative Feigenholtz. Please proceed."

"Thank you. I Motion to Concur on Senate Amendment #1. This is a Amendment that essentially makes technical changes to some of the provisions of this underlying Bill regarding the Illinois Health Information Exchange. A few issues that were up for question were resolved. I'd be glad to answer any questions."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1017. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1247, Mr. D'Amico. Please proceed."

"Well, perhaps you could briefly, just briefly, explain the Amendment to us, Sir."

"The Chair recognizes Mr. Franks on the Motion."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields." 09800065.docx 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"So, what exactly, to remind the folks, it's been a while since we voted on this. What does this Bill do?"

"Okay. And then this would, the Amendment, would lessen some of the fines that you had previously put in the original Bill?"

"And any second or subsequent offense would be a moving violation?"

"Okay. Philosophically, I know you and I have had disagreements on this, I'm just wondering why we don't have an enhanced standard for people who are driving while distracted versus trying to legislate individual behaviors. And I'll give you an example and I alluded to it briefly the other day. We got out of here on Friday and I stopped for gas and then I was near a Wendy's and I got a Frosty. Now, the thing with the Frosty is unlike a cone you have to use two hands. It was the chocolate one. It was very good. The problem with the Frosty is when you're driving and you're holding the spoon in your right hand and the Frosty in your left you have to move your hands to bring the ice cream to your mouth. So, at no time did I have two hands on the wheel while I was eating the Frosty. Now, to complicate it, if you're smoking a cigar while you're eating a Frosty, but then if you have your window open and a bee flies in, you wouldn't imagine the havoc that created. There's ashes in the Frosty, you're moving 09800065.docx 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 you're hands like this. Thank God I wasn't on my cell phone, right, 'cause that would have made it worse. But my point is, the things that I was doing was probably more distracting than I would've been by simply being on my cell phone and speaking. So, I'm concerned on our public policy that when we talk about specific actions that we're not really looking at the global effect of driving while distracted. I mean, if anyone deserved a ticket that day, I'm sure I did for having a Frosty and smoking a cigar with the window open."

"Right. And I wasn't and I understood that, but that happens every day and it also happens when you're eating fast food and when you're reaching over to put your DVD in or you're having your coffee and you spill it in your lap or you do a shortstop. But my point is, it just doesn't seem fair to be focusing on one type of behavior but leaving the other ones. So, I think you should…"

"I get that. So, you can still… but what I'm concerned about is that the… it seems to me is that the next logical way to go on this would be to get rid of cell phones completely 09800065.docx 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 while we're driving. And I think it's become such a part of our culture that it'd be… that would be a very difficult move, but it just seems that we're focusing on that when there's many other just as dangerous actions while you're driving. And I know that we've… we all know that we should do better and I think we can all agree that we've made… we've been lucky sometimes while we're driving. So, that would be my point and that was my concern on this Bill. And I appreciate your indulgence."

"And thank you for the offer to buy us all Frostys, Mr. Franks. Mr. Reboletti."

"The Sponsor yields."

"Mr. D'Amico to close." 09800065.docx 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 69 voting 'yes', 48 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1247. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1288. Excuse me. Mr. Clerk."

"Now, House Bill 1288, Representative Gabel. Please proceed, Representative."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur with Senate Amendment 2. What… there is no actual change to the language. It's the same exact language that passed the House except that the state complaint part of the Bill is placed in a separate subsection at the end the Bill. The request was made at… the change was made at the request of Chicago Public Schools because they wanted a clear distinction between the due process changes and the state complaint provisions. But this Bill addresses… it requires ISBE to adopt special education complaint procedures that are consistent with Federal Law and increase due process procedures for parents. I'd appreciate an 'aye' vote." 09800065.docx 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Tabares. Please take the record. On this question, there 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 1288. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1309, Representative Cassidy. Please proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I would like to concur in Senate Amendment 1 to House Bill 1309. It's a very simple Amendment that slightly narrows the focus to address the actual heinous acts that were committed in West Rogers Park last summer. And I ask for your support."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1309. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1349, Mr. Schmitz. Please proceed."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Leitch. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #3 to House Bill 1349. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1652, Mr. Brown. Please proceed, Sir."

"The Chair recognizes Mr. Franks on the Motion."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"How does the Amendment change the underlying Bill, Mr. Brown?"

"And the underlying Bill remains?"

"Okay. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Dunkin. Please take the record. On this question, there are 109 voting 'yes', 8 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1652. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1683, Representative Bellock. Please proceed."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Harris. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1683. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2250, Representative Willis. Out of the record. House Bill 2311, Mr. Beiser. Out of the record. House Bill 2339, Representative Will Davis. Please proceed, Sir. Representative Davis." Davis, W.: "Oh, I'm sorry. I thought the Clerk said something first. I apologize. Ladies and Gentlemen, I move to concur in 09800065.docx 80  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2339. Very briefly, what it does is, that it provides for the authorization rather than the consent to of an anatomical gift. It provides that an agent under a health care power of attorney may authorize an anatomical gift. It makes changes concerning the revocation of an anatomical gift. It also makes changes concerning evaluation of a… evaluation of suitability of a donated body or part. It does a little more to define the terms 'donee' and 'recipient'. And then I also have two pages of very technical stuff that I really don't want to have to read if I don't want to, but I'll be more than happy to answer any questions."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Representative Fortner. Please take the record. On this question, there 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2339. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2471, Representative Cassidy. Please proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I want to concur in Senate Amendment 2 to House Bill 2471. The change very simply makes clear that in our desire to protect victims of sex crimes and child victims of sex crimes that we also intended the privacy protection to extend to victims of human trafficking as well. And I ask for a favorable vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Flowers, Rita. Please take the record. On this question, 09800065.docx 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 2471. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2508, Mr. Hoffman. Mr. Hoffman. Out of the record. House Bill 2787, Representative Bellock. Please proceed."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2787. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Returning to House Bill 2508, Mr. Hoffman. Please proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is… now came back as an agreed to Bill between the Illinois Motorcycle Dealers Association and the Harley Davidson Motor Company. You may recall the debate regarding a franchisee. They be… came to an agreement on the provisions and now it's an agreed to Bill." 09800065.docx 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Bellock, Flowers, Hays. Please take the record. On this question, there are 105 voting 'yes', 12 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 2508. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2905, Mr. Evans. Please proceed, Sir."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for a Motion in Concurrence for Senate Amendment 1 for 2905. This Bill, which flew out of here, makes a couple of technical changes. It's sort of been watered down. The penalties have been reduced too as such. The penalties were all the way up to a possible felony, ex- felony or a first felony, but now it's been reduced down to, in the Senate, to a… at the top… I mean, it's… the worst possible case would be a Class 4 felony and just to potentially stop the possibility of arguing over small properties, there's been a floor set at $10 thousand. So, it'd only be properties over $10 thousand. So, I ask for your support."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Flowers, Moffitt, Thapedi. Please take the record. On this question, there are 73 voting 'yes', 44 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2905. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, 09800065.docx 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2947, Mr. Drury. Please proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur on Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2947. This was a budget transparency Bill. The Amendment merely clarifies what specific information needs to be provided in the Governor's budget table related to our true surpluses and deficits. I ask for your support."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Bellock, Cabello, Rita. Please take the record. On this question, there are 109 voting 'yes', 8 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2947. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3003, Representative Soto. Please proceed."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. Yes, I wish to concur with Senate… I'm sorry, with Senate Committee Amendment #1 which amends the Bill so that the board members shall receive no compensation and shall not be reimbursed for any necessary expenses occurred for their performance and duties unless funds become available to the board. And I urge an 'aye' vote… appreciate an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Riley. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no' And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to 09800065.docx 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 House Bill 3003. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Leader Riley. Mr. Riley."

"I'm sorry. With all the excitement, I've forgotten what… did you… my button was on. Was that…"

"Yes, indeed, Sir, it was."

"It was pressed by mistake."

"Do you know who did it, Sir?"

"No, I didn't, but it could be one of many people, so."

"Mr. Dunkin will look into it for you. Mr. Arroyo. Another phantom hit Mr. Arroyo's switch. Very nice. House Bill 3139, Mr. Smith. Please proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I move to concur with Amendment 1 and 2. Amendment 1 and 2 just allow the insurance companies to use the post policies on the Internet website and also changes the language from damage to portable electronic devices as used to display electronic insurance. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The Gentleman moves to concur in the Senate Amendments. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Crespo. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur in Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 3139. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3157, Mr. Evans. Please proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur with Senate Amendment 1 to House Bill 3157. In the Senate there were some 09800065.docx 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 questions regarding to how a Section of the Bill regarding apportionment of gangs would work for some firms. Rather than, you know, continue with the confusion, the various parties are going to work over the summer to try to correct the Bill. For the most part, the Bill just clears up some usage of paperwork with the Department of Revenue at this point."

"The Gentleman moves to concur in Senate Amendment 1. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Feigenholtz, Leitch, Reboletti. Mr. Leitch. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3157. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3272, Mr. Moffitt. Please proceed."

Speaker Lang: "The Gentleman moves to nonconcur in Senate Amendments to House Bill 3272. The Chair recognizes Mr. Franks."

"Thank you. To the Bill, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Moffitt worked hard on this Bill and unfortunately when it came over from 09800065.docx 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 the Senate it was just misdrafted. We caught that in committee, so his Motion is simply to send it back for another shot to get it right. We have another Bill that has the language, but we’re waiting for that to come out of Rules. So, I encourage an 'aye' vote on the Gentleman's Motion."

"Mr. Zalewski."

"Mr. Speaker, will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Gentleman yields. This is a nonconcurrence Motion."

"Is the Senate going to recede from… have you been in contact with the Senate, Representative?"

"Okay."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the House nonconcurs in Senate Amendment #1. The House nonconcurs in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3272. House Bill 3319, Mr. Halbrook. Please proceed."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Costello. Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no'. And the House does concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3346… Excuse me, House Bill 3319. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby 09800065.docx 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 declared passed. House Bill 3346, Representative Wheeler. Please proceed."

"Perhaps you can tell us briefly what the Amendment does, Representative."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Jakobsson, Jefferson. Mr. Jefferson. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3346. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3359, Representative Bellock. Please proceed."

"The Lady moves for the Concurrence on the Senate Amendment. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting 09800065.docx 88  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Cassidy. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 3359. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3380, Representative Tabares. Please proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3380 which adds guardians that are appointed under the Juvenile Court Act to the list of guardians that can request a security freeze on a minor."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Bost, Evans, Lilly. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3380. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3388, Representative Kelly Burke. Please proceed." Burke, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur in Senate Amendment 1. This Bill… the original Bill required the Law Enforcement Training Standards Board to conduct or approve a training program in animal fighting awareness. The Amendment simply adds that training on canine behavior and nonlethal ways to subdue a canine would be added to that awareness program. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who 09800065.docx 89  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Hatcher, Sosnowski. Please take the record. On this question, there are 105 voting 'yes', 12 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3388. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1584 under the Orders of second Bill… Senate Bills- Second Reading. Please read the Bill. Leader Currie."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. This is a technical Amendment to the Bill. We discussed it in committee yesterday. I'd appreciate your support for the Amendment and then we can discuss the Bill on Third."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say… excuse me. Mr. Reboletti. Did not see your light, Sir."

"The Lady yields."

"No."

"That's not what the Bill does at all."

"Would you like to discuss Amendment 2 or may we adopt Amendment 2 and then we can discuss the Bill as amended?"

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. Under a consent that pre-entered into 25 years ago, the City of Chicago and the worker's pension fund help subsidize, do not pay for, but help subsidize retiree health care. That settlement agreement comes to an end at the end of June, 2013. The city, however, instead of just pulling the rug out from under these retirees, the city has asked us to extend the sunset that currently would go into effect at also June 30, 2013 and mean that the worker's pension funds would not be able to help subsidize health care. The city has asked and so have the retirees that we extend the sunset date on the opportunity for the pension fund to help pay for retiree health care costs until such time as the city figures out a new plan or January 1, 2016, whichever comes first. So, this is a measure that will see to it that people who currently get some subsidies for health care will at least, in the near future, continue to receive those subsidies from the pension 09800065.docx 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 program and of course, the city will continue its subsidy as well. There is a number of the… a class of retirees, those who retired before 1989. Their number is about 5,500. The city has said that they will continue to pay for whatever they have been doing for these individuals who are the poorest and the most vulnerable of citizens, but as for the others, the city is trying to investigate ways to figure out what kind of health care would best suit their needs. In any case, the city doesn't want to pull the rug out from under and I surely hope that the Members of this chamber don't want to do that either. So, I would appreciate your 'yes' vote on Senate Bill 1584 and I'd be happy to answer your questions."

"Representative Senger."

"The Lady yields."

"The city can take them off as of July 1, 2013…"

"…next… basically next month. The city has every right to kick these people out of any kind of subsidy in paying their health care bill. The city has graciously said we don't want to pull the rug out from under. We want to establish a transition period and they have committed to continuing the subsidy and the only way the subsidy from the pension fund 09800065.docx 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 can continue is if we vote 'yes' on Senate Bill 1584. The city would like to figure out a way to transition some number of the retirees out of subsidized health insurance which they have every right to do. They have made a commitment to some 5,500, the poorest, the most vulnerable who retired before 1989 that they will continue to provide coverage for those."

"The 5,500, I believe, the city will continue to subsidize. For other retirees, for whom the city has no responsibility as of June 30… July 1, 2013, I think the city will try to help them figure out their best options for health care. In any event, the only way the subsidy from the pension fund can continue, at least until that transition period or 2016 whichever is first, is if we say 'yes' to Senate Bill 1584."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A question of the Sponsor, please."

"Please proceed." Harris, D.: "So, Representative, the agreement ends as of June 30 of this year."

"I think it's June 30. It's June 30/July 1. This is a settlement…" Harris, D.: "Right."

"…that was entered into 25 years ago." Harris, D.: "Right. And the exchanges start when, 1 October?"

"I think people can sign up in October, but the exchanges don't begin until January 2014. This Bill has nothing to do with the exchanges." Harris, D.: "No, I…"

"This Bill has only to do with the fact that the city, in another month or so, will have no obligation whatsoever…" Harris, D.: "Right."

"…to help city retirees pay for health care insurance and unless we change the law, the pension funds for those workers will not be able to continue the subsidy." Harris, D.: "Right."

"This has nothing to do with Obamacare." Harris, D.: "Well, I realize it doesn't have anything specifically to do with the Affordable Care Act; however, the city is, 09800065.docx 94  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 from what I have read, the city intends to help these individuals make that transition to the Affordable Care Act and the… the health…"

"Or to whatever. There are other…" Harris, D.: "Right."

"…options that may be available." Harris, D.: "And…"

"I think the important point is the city does not want to throw all of these retirees under the bus July 1, 2013." Harris, D.: "They have a… they have big hearts in the city. They certainly do."

"You know, it's a pleasure to find out that my own city has a heart." Harris, D.: "However, let's… let's… I've often felt that the hearts are sometimes motivated by the dollar signs. And if the city no longer has to bear the cost and can transfer these individuals or help these individuals make the transfer to the exchanges, they're going to save an awful lot of money…"

"They're…" Harris, D.: "…and they could do, potentially, they could do the same thing with the school systems. They could do the same thing with other employees who may work for the city. That… the transfer could be made and the city would save a whole heck of a lot money when it…"

"I don't know…" Harris, D.: "…came to dollars and cents."

"…I have to say, I don't know what happens with the other pension funds. The Chicago Board of Education, for example, has responsibility over whatever happens with the pensions 09800065.docx 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 for that system. That is not a direct responsibility of the city." Harris, D.: "You know…"

"All I know is the city can say to all of the retirees, July 1 this year, you're on your own, buddy. And I think it is important that the city is prepared to help create a transition so that people are not left in the lurch. I think it speaks well for the city that they're prepared to continue with subsidies for those who retired before 1989, the least affluent of their number, I think that's a good thing." Harris, D.: "And…"

"But I also think that the city cannot afford to continue subsidizing retiree health care to the tune it currently does and I also think it's not a good idea for the worker's pension fund to be paying for health care in the long run. This is a transition period and I urge your support." Harris, D.: "And I understand. And just by way of observation, to the Bill, Ladies and Gentlemen. You know, the city can do this and they can do this for the retirees and guess what, I believe they can do it for their employees as well and the difference is that if a private employer does this under the Affordable Care Act the private employer pays a penalty for each individual that they do not… for each employee that they do not provide health care coverage for. And the city can avoid such a penalty. Thank you very much."

"Leader Currie, did you have a response?"

"With respect to employees, yes. With respect to retirees, no. Employers do not have responsibility, as I understand it, for the health care costs of their retirees today or tomorrow. 09800065.docx 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 So, under the Affordable Care Act, the city would not have any responsibility for these retirees. But the city is… has, with our help, the city will continue to give them some support in the near future during a transition period." Harris, D.: "Thank you and I appreciate the debate with the Majority Leader."

"Thank you. Mr. Zalewski."

"Mr. Speaker, will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"Leader, we're getting off into what this does with respect to Obamacare and maybe I wasn't at the same committee that everybody else was yesterday. This is in response to a specific court decision, correct?"

"This is the result of a 25-year-old settlement between the city and the plaintiffs in the Korshak case. That settlement ends at the end of June, beginning of July. That means that at that time the city no longer has any obligation to pay one penny for the health care costs of its 36 thousand retirees. If we do not pass this Bill, the city will not be very well able to continue helping some of those retirees at least in the near future."

"So, the existence or nonexistence of the Affordable Care Act doesn't have any bearing on the statutory duty that the Body has to deal with this problem, correct?"

"Zero."

"And to the testimony in committee yesterday, again, if I'm mistaken, was that the subsidies will be continued for a limited amount of time and then the city will make a determination about how they want to proceed. So, the 09800065.docx 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 testimony left a little bit of ambiguity to the extent that we don't know what they're going to do. Isn't that accurate?"

"Well, we don't know and that the reality is they're not quite sure either. But this measure would give them time until they figure out what they're doing for the retirees who have retired since 1989 or until January 1, 2016 whichever comes first."

"So, to the Bill. I, again, implore the Body to not look beyond what the constructs of the Bill are and simply say that all the Bill does is ask the Body to make a statutory change that we would have had to made regardless of what's coming down the pipe with the Affordable Care Act and this isn't… shouldn't be looked at outside the four corners of that particular posture. And I ask for the Body's support for a 'yes' vote."

"Representative Bellock."

"Representative Kosel."

"The Sponsor yields."

"Representative, the city cannot offer pension fund subsidies to current retirees without action by this Assembly. The subsidies… the subsidies expire June 30, 2013. That is a month from now. The city can't do anything without our help on this Bill."

"That's right."

"The city cannot…"

"…the city cannot access pension subsidies unless we take out the sunset date currently in the statute. The current statute says the pension fund payments for health care will expire June 30, 2013."

"Representative Willis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield, please?"

"The Lady yields." 09800065.docx 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"I just have two simple questions. Number one: this is for retirees that retired prior to 1989?"

"This is all retirees. There are two classes. The city has said they're required to do nothing to help any of these 36 thousand retirees, help them pay their health care bills. The city has said for those who retired before 1989 who tend to be very low income, their pensions are low, they're elderly, the city will continue to provide the same kinds of subsidies they're providing today. For the others, they're asking for our help in providing a smooth transition away from city subsidies."

"So, this would also then include those older retirees that are on Medicare to get like Medicare supplement to assist with that kind of payment?"

"You're exactly right."

"Okay. To the Bill. My husband is a recent retiree. His union saw this coming and they actually set up a health care subsidy type of program. Obviously, the City of Chicago wants to have time to do this, is my understanding. So, therefore, I think this is a wonderful Bill and I certainly would encourage an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Leader Currie to close."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. The reality is that without passage of this legislation retirees from the City of Chicago, the police, the fire, the laborers, they will be faced, they will be stuck immediately with a $20 million bill for health care, if we do not pass Senate Bill 1584. I don't think anybody in good conscience should say that, gee, that's just dandy, pull the rug out from under, stick them with a $20 million bill right away next month. I would certainly hope that you will join me in providing some protections for Chicago city worker retirees and vote 'yes' for Senate Bill 1584."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Crespo. Please take the record. On this question, there are 67 voting 'yes', 50 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 206, Mr. Crespo. Please read the Bill. Take that out of the record, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 214, Mr. Crespo. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Crespo."

"Thank you, Speaker. And I need to adopt Amendment #2, House Amendment #2 to House Bill 214."

"Are you withdrawing Amendment #1, Sir?"

"Yes, Sir."

"Amendment #1 is withdrawn. Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Crespo."

"Thank you, Speaker. House Bill 214, the Amendment pretty much becomes the Bill and is the budget for the agencies under the Appropriations-General Services Committee. Amendment #2 to House Bill 214 added some technical changes and it also moves some funds from the ag premium to the Department of Agriculture at $500 thousand to fund the implementation of House Bill #1. It also moves $900 thousand from the Professional Indirect Cost Fund, another state fund, to DFPR to regulate House Bill #1."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Amendment will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Crespo." 09800065.docx 102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. This is the product of the Committee on General Services which funds close to 40 agencies in State Government. We had a request, the entire budget for this Appropriation Committee was a little bit over $8 billion, all funds, which included 1,178,030,500 in GRF. The agencies came in requesting 1,264,834,580; the committee appropriated 1,178,030,507. So, overall we cut close to 7 percent of the request. A couple of salient items here, the AFSCME contracts or anything related to the AFSCME contracts, were not included in our appropriations. The agencies and departments will have to figure how to fund those. After we sat down with the Senate, as the chair of the Revenue Committee had mentioned, there is some additional revenue that was made available. We received close to $40 million of additional revenue and we used that to help some of the agencies that have been grossly underfunded in the past whenever we could. We also decided, as a committee, that we will spend more money on job training. We saw some value there. And any other items that we thought added some value we tried to fund. After all that, we still have some money available, close to $50 million and it was the decision of the committee to direct that to public safety, elementary educations. We felt they had more pressing needs. And with that, I'd like to first thank all of the committee Members for working on this including the… my colleagues on the Republican side. I truly believe we worked in a great way. We came closer together. Unfortunately, there are forces outside our control, so I'm not sure how the vote will turn out, although I think I know how it will, but I want to thank all 09800065.docx 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 the Members including Darlene Senger, who is the Minority Spokesperson. And with that, I'll be happy to answer any questions."

"Representative Senger."

"The Sponsor yields."

"Yes, Representative. Thanks for asking. That's something that the Department of Agriculture had done in the past. It had not been funded for quite some time and as a result of the additional funds that became available, that's one of the programs that the committee decided to fund moving forward."

"Right. I believe that was for…"

"…250 thousand was another… with the funds that became available we saw value there from the committee Members, so we decided to fund that."

"Mr. Reis."

"The Sponsor yields."

"Yeah, give me one second, please. You're talking about… Representative, are you comparing fiscal year '13 to '14?"

"First of all, before we forget, if you recall, last year Representative Mautino passed a Bill to help fund the DNR which had been grossly underfunded for quite some time. A lot 09800065.docx 105  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 of those other state funds are from fees that come from that sustainability Bill that passed last year."

"Well…"

"So, what we did, as I mentioned in my opening remarks, Representative, we took anything related to the AFSCME contract whether it be salaries or anything else and we removed that from all the agencies. In this particular case, Natural Resources came in a little bit over and they had factored in the AFSCME pay raises and we removed that and that accounts for the difference."

"I follow you…"

"…and, just for the record, Representative, when we went through this process, we took DNR and we put those on the side and we gave DNR a pass through rounds one and round two because they had worked last year on coming up with a funding mechanism. When we got to round three, we needed to make some more cuts and we had to bring them back in. And just to be consistent with all the other agencies, we removed anything 09800065.docx 106  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 related to the AFSCME contract. But I get your point and I agree with you and the committee felt the same way especially for DNR."

"So, again, this is a product, Representative, when we met with the Senate and there was additional funds that they made a compelling argument how the arts were important for… especially for many municipalities. They’re looking at helping some of these struggling artists and to come in and just help them fund some of those programs."

"It's a…"

"It's… well, if you look at '13, '14, if you go a little bit further back, you'll see, again, as I said it earlier, some of these agencies have been grossly underfunded for quite some time. Whenever we could, we went back with additional funds and just tried to make them whole at least for this… for this year."

"Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"First of all, Mr. Crespo, I appreciate the hard work. I know how dedicated you've been to this and how much you've worked on it. So, I appreciate all your efforts and that of your committee. I had a couple of questions on some of the line items. One's dealing with the lottery and I see that we're asking to give them one and a half million dollars to defend lawsuits. Can you tell us what that's all about?"

"So, yeah. So, there's… and I think there's consensus in the committee on both sides of the aisle. There is a problem going on with the lottery. As you probably already know through your committee that they contracted with a company called Northstar to run the lottery and they’ve been going back and forth. We’re actually waiting for an outside audit to come in which is way overdue. I don't think the audit came back in yet and unfortunately, what that means is they're spending more money on this potential litigation issue. The committee, at one point, was thinking about funding them at 50 percent and have them come back during the Veto Session. Hopefully, this whole thing will have been settled. We ran into some problems. There were some contractual obligations with Northstar, so it was kind of difficult to do that, but we're keeping a close eye and it's a concern for the committee as well." 09800065.docx 108  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"Well, what's… where did this lawsuit or potential lawsuit emanate from? Was this on the actual procurement of the lottery contract itself and not with the actual running of the lottery?"

"My recollection from what we heard in committee, Representative, was that there's a disagreement as to whether Northstar has hit the threshold that they had to hit in order to get certain compensation and there's a disagreement on what that number is. That's one of the reasons we insisted on seeing the audit. I think the audit ultimately will let us know what that number really is in an objective way. We're still waiting for that audit."

"That was a bad deal from the beginning. The Governor, he has to wear this one completely. This was one where we dealt with the procurement of a private manager which, I think, was ill-advised. And the procurement was just replete with problems which I think, now they're coming home to roost and when we have to look at cuts in other areas, I mean, this a million and a half dollars that you have to set aside for a major mistake of the Governor and I'm just… I'm sorry that you have to do that. I understand it, but it's very upsetting to me that because that he didn't think this through and didn't do it right that we're paying for it again and again. And on that vein, I want to talk to you about the DCEO budget. On the DCEO budget, what did you decide to do with that? As I'm understanding, it looks as though that it's actually been expanded."

"So, what we did with DCEO, Representative, as I mentioned in my opening remarks, when we met with the Senate and agreed 09800065.docx 109  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 that there was additional funds to spend, in our case, close to $40 million, we went back, we revisited some of these requests and we prioritized what was really important. And again, as I mentioned before, there were some agencies that had been grossly underfunded historically, so we tried, whenever we could, to bring them whole at least for this year. On DCEO, one of the things that we heard a lot of was the job training. And it seems like job training was something that we all agreed on and we actually pretty much put more funding on that line which resulted in the increase you see when you compare it to 2013."

"I see that. Now, what I don't see in the line items are the EDGE credits and we had our joint committee hearing with Revenue a few weeks ago and we heard at that time that DCEO has a blank check and they can give as much as they want to whoever they want. And two years ago when the fiscal… in our fiscal year, they gave over $161 million in incentives without any metrics which accounted for almost 9 percent of all of the corporate tax revenues, the entire corporate tax revenues in the State of Illinois that they gave away to a few companies without any oversight. And I'm concerned here and maybe it's not in this budget, but I'm wondering is there any controls on how much they can give out?"

"So, as far as the EDGE credits are concerned, you're right. It is not part of this budget. These are tax incentives. So, it's booked differently and it's not really something that we appropriate, so it doesn't come under our purview. Again, it's just tax credit. I know the Governor and 09800065.docx 110  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 DCEO works with that, but it doesn't come before the appropriation process."

"Where does it show up in our budget? Because a couple years ago they blew $161 million hole in the budget that no one, no one budgeted for. It wasn't in any line item. Where does it show up in this year's budget, if you know?"

"I would imagine that's a matter of accounting, that it is booked somehow has a decrease in revenue coming in, but there's not real dollars that we’re handing out. It's just revenue, potential revenue that could come in. It's just booked differently and therefore, doesn't show up on our approp."

"Okay. I appreciate those answers and my concern is this is not something that's done abstractly. When we make mistakes or when the Governor makes mistakes, there are real life consequences to real life people. You look at the lottery and if they're right with the amount that they're off and could've cost our state $190 million, that's much more than the decrease that we've looked at in many of our other areas of our budget. And you look at the problems where DCEO has been unfettered in their ability to give out money without any metrics and costing the state 161 million two years ago. We have no idea what it had… what it was last year or what they're planning on this year. I think that is a major problem in our budget on how we… you can't really budget when you don't know how much money you're going to have, so we’re guessing. So, I appreciate your efforts, again, but I think that we have to hold those people who are making some of those larger decisions accountable because then they roll downhill 09800065.docx 111  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 and people who are in the Appropriation Committees who are working so hard are often hamstrung on what we can do. So, I'm disappointed in some of the decisions the Governor's made that's made us where we are today where we could be in a much better shape, but instead we're literally taking medicine away from people who need it."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Leader Cross."

"Mr. Cross. Let me see if I can get it a little more peaceful for you."

"Let's pay some attention to the Minority Leader. Please proceed, Sir."

"Mr. Durkin."

"Mr. Crespo yields."

"You know, Representative, that's a very good question. That never came up at our committee meeting."

"That came from the lottery."

"I would imagine they did and what reasons they've had for not doing it, I can't answer that."

"Mr. Reboletti, you had yielded your time, but we'll allow you to speak, Sir."

"The Sponsor yields."

"That was not appropriated in this budget."

"It is part of the contract, correct."

"I'm sorry. What was that?"

"Well, as I stated in my opening remarks, Representative, anything that had… anything related to the AFSCME contract whether salaries which was like $7 million, upward mobility, $5 million, we took out of our appropriations and that's a pressure that the agencies are going to have. What we’ve heard from the Governor's Office is that they intend to meet that commitment with AFSCME. How they do it, I don't know. I know we gave some agencies, we lump summed some of their operations to give them flexibility to move money around to help them meet that contract, if they choose to do that."

"Give me one second. So, last year for fiscal year '14… So, let me say this over. Fiscal year '13, our appropriation was $1,158,000,000 and some change, for fiscal year '13. For fiscal year '14, which I think goes to your question, we appropriated 1,178,030,000."

"It's an increase. I know where you're going with this and again, it's a by-product of our meeting with the Senate, as the chairman of the Revenue Committee had mentioned earlier. There was additional moneys out there that came to the committees. We… just for the record, our committee was… we were entitled, not entitled, we were told we had $40 million more that we can spend and we did not spend it all. We sent $15 million of that to public safety and elementary/secondary education. We just figured since that money was there the committee felt that there's some pressure points, some agencies, as I mentioned before, were… had been grossly underfunded historically. We felt we can give them a break this year. Job training was a big one as well including one of the biggest pressures from the Supreme Court was probations. In the past, they've been funded at around $47 million. They came in requesting $110 million this year. We were able to up that a little bit, up to probably about 63, 64 million dollars."

"I think the biggest question, Representative, is whether that income tax increase is extended or not. I think that's going to drive it. I, just for the record, I voted against it last time and I'll be voting to not extend it. Whether it happens or not is going to drive what happens next year. You know, this is all, you know, dealing with hypotheticals right now. I don't know."

"Mr. Sullivan."

"Mr. Crespo to close."

"Thank you, Speaker. I did not say whether we vote for… to extend the income is hypothetical. Hypothetical was what happens in the future. I don't know. Speaker, if I can have everyone's attention for just one second. Let me explain to you what the budget process is like in the General Assembly. We met probably like close to two months ago with the Republican side, and we were discussing what we call above the line items. These are the mandated expenditures. Things that we're obligated to pay which includes group insurance, debt service, transfers out, Medicaid and old bills. And we're trying to reach some kind of agreement because, keep in mind, folks and the press, any decisions we make above the line is going to have an impact on how much we have for the Appropriation Committees. That is the trigger. That is the key. And we added it all up with the Republicans. We moved some figures around, and approximately six to eight weeks ago we asked the Republicans, here's a proposal. Tell us, what do you think? Give us something, a counter proposal, your best and final offer, something that at least we can have this dialogue. We waited one week, two weeks and here we are close to six or eight weeks later, we haven't heard anything. That's 09800065.docx 120  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 just one group. Now, rank and file, in the 10 days we worked very well together. Let me make something very clear. In my committee I mentioned more than once from the get go, Ladies and Gentlemen, we’re going to work on this Appropriation Commit… this appropriation, however, it's contingent on what we hear from the Republicans on above the line. That's going to really dictate how much money we're going to have to spend. We waited, we waited, we waited. This week we came to the conclusion we haven't heard anything from their Leadership as to what they're offering or what they want to do. The clock is ticking. Part of the process is we need to reconcile our budget in the House with the Senate. We can't wait any longer. We sat down with the Senate and we had to reach some kind of reconciliation on this. They came up with additional funds that we had figured, okay, that makes sense and we're working with the Senate. So, for anyone to say that we cut you off, please keep in mind how the process works. Eight weeks later we still haven't heard from the Senate… from the House Republicans on what they want to do about the line. What are we supposed to do, wait? Today is what, May 28? We need to come up with something May 31. We waited patiently, Ladies and Gentlemen. So, for them to say we cut them off is not an accurate statement. We waited, we waited, we waited and the decisions that really mattered, the ones that were going to dictate how much money we have to spend, we never heard from them, but now it's our fault. We did not cut you off. We're still waiting for an answer. We're running out of time. We met with the Senate which is part of the process and this is 09800065.docx 121  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 where we are today. And with that, I'd please ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Harris. Please take the record. On this question, there are 70 voting 'yes', 47 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Sacia is recognized."

"Please proceed."

"We're going to move on, Mr. Crespo, but you get to speak 'cause the Bill… next Bill is yours. House Bill 206, please read the Bill."

"Mr. Crespo on Amendment 1. Mr. Turner in the Chair."

"Representative Crespo."

"Mr. Speaker, I'd just like to move to adopt Amendment #3 to House Bill 206."

Speaker Turner: "Representative Crespo moves to withdraw Amendment #1. Do you have any further Motions?"

"Representative Crespo would like to withdraw Floor Amendment #2."

"Correct."

"Mr. Clerk, any further Motions?"

"Representative Crespo."

"Thank you, Speaker. The House Floor Amendment 3, what it does, is basically contains the fiscal year '13 supplemental and the fiscal year '14 above the line appropriations. Amendment #3 also adds some technical changes for the debt service. We had to make some adjustments there. The court of claims award that was left out for $335 thousand was included. 09800065.docx 123  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 And we also had a supplemental for the Department of Corrections, 1 million of other state funds for their food contract. Happy to answer any questions."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #3 to House Bill 206. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read House Bill 206 for a third time."

"Representative Crespo."

"Thank you, Speaker. So, as I mentioned earlier, House Bill 206 contains the fiscal year '13 supplemental and '14… fiscal year '14 above the line appropriations. Some of the items included there were $350 million for group insurance, $500 million for human service related liabilities such as CCP for fiscal year '13 as well as the developmental… the DD provider. So, by funding them at this level, we pretty much take care of everything that's owed to them for fiscal year '13. It also funds the Health Care Provider Relief Fund as well as the Department of Corrections $42 million. Let me be very clear, the Department of Corrections' $42 million to meet payroll for fiscal year '13. This is not a pay raise. This is just to meet their payroll liabilities for the year… for fiscal year '13. It has $5 million for the court of claim and above the line for fiscal year '14 and fully appropriates for all pensions, has certified and also appropriates for all 09800065.docx 124  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 state group health insurance, debt service and appropriation for old bills at a rate of $650 million. With the matching Medicaid funds, we expect to contribute $1.25 billion towards old bills. Happy to answer any questions."

"On that, we have Representative Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Mr. Crespo, I'm reading the analysis on this supplemental appropriation and I had a couple of questions concerning the appropriations for the above the line. It appears as though the old bills instead of being paid at 1,300,000,000 is now reduced to 1,252,000,000. Is that correct?"

"The… in comparing apples to apples, Representative, last year we contributed $800 million towards old bills. With the matching funds that we got from Medicaid, since we paid some of the old Medicaid bills, it brought up the amount that you just quoted. This year we're projecting, number one, instead of $800 million we’re going to pay $650 million towards old bills and we expect to get some Medicaid matched on that, so we anticipate contributing $1.25 billion towards old bills."

"The Comptroller indicated that she thought by July that our owed bills would be in excess of seven and a half billion dollars, again. I know that we had an April surprise where we had more moneys coming in, but that was really more of a timing mechanism than actual additional funds."

"Right. And let's just be very clear on something. When you look at old bills there's two things you need to keep in mind. It's the amount that is owed as well as the age of those liabilities. With the money coming in with the April surprise, 09800065.docx 125  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 I think most of those unpaid bills are sitting in the 30- and 60-day bucket. It's not as severe as it was. Granted, it was an April surprise. It helped us right now with the aging of some of these items, so we expect that to grow, to what extent, I don't know. But in terms of the old bills, I think most of those are sitting in those 30- and 60-day buckets right now."

"My concern though, even if they're sitting in a 30- or 60-day bucket, for those that are nongovernmental, we have the obligation to be paying interest on those late bills. Have we calculated what the additional costs will be by not… by cutting off some of this money to pay the old bills, how much more are we going have to pay in interest now because we’re not paying the old bills as quickly as we could?"

"I don't have that number. I agree with you. There's some additional expenditures and the interest. I know the trigger comes in 30 or… I forget when the trigger starts, but… you know, but we don't have that number."

"That concerns me greatly because when we underpay those old bills we’re going to be paying more later. The next issue I had was on debt service and I see that that line item has been decreased above the line. Can you tell us why?"

"One second. So, yeah. So, we got these numbers from the Treasurer's Office and those are the most recent numbers that he gave us, Representative."

"Okay. So, it's not a… it's not a deliberate under…"

"No."

"…underpayment of the other ones." 09800065.docx 126  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"It's just whatever we get and we put there; we have to meet that obligation."

"And the… one other question I had and I'm looking here and I think it deals with the county clerks. And I'm looking for theirs and there was something dealing with stipends to the county clerks or something?"

"Right. I believe I said actually we do cover those stipends. In this particular case, Representative, what we did in our committee, those were paid out of other state funds and not GRF. There's a Bill that's being moved around right now by one of our Leaders to have PPRT pay for those, so it seems like that's going to pass and to me, this side, well, if that's the case, we might as well jump the gun now and use PPRT for that."

"But is that legal? I thought we had… we passed a law that says that we can't have a budget on anticipated revenues, it's only what we have. And right now, that Bill has not passed that would move the…"

"That Bill has nothing to do with fiscal year '14. What I said was it seems like it will happen. As a matter of policy we figured, well, if this… something's going to happen in the future, we might as well jump the gun. That money is served, right now, under PPRT. This is real money sitting there and it's a matter of public policy. I think it's going to happen, so we figured we'd jump the gun and do it now."

"Well, the public policy, I think, if we… 'cause the stipends were created by statute, were created by us. If we don't wish to pay them, then we should get rid of those stipends, but to keep them and then say someone else should 09800065.docx 127  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 pay them, I don't think is proper public policy. So, I think it may be better if we just get rid of all those stipends and I think that would probably be the better move. But I… again, I appreciate your efforts and I know it's not easy and there's some real problems, obviously, not of your making. I appreciate what you've done, but Mr. Cross had talked about some of the issues we have and I am concerned that we are overspending and with these unpaid bills still out there, I think that ought to be our primary obligation to pay our bills because we do have a Constitution that requires us to have a balanced budget. I mean, it certainly also requires us to pay our pensions which we haven't done and it also requires us to have the state as its… the primary obligor of our education. Nonetheless, I think we need to take this very seriously and pay our bills and I'm very concerned about additional spending and what it can do to the economic climate here in the state."

"Representative Greg Harris." Harris, G.: "To the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, I rise in strong support of this legislation because it supports two of the main goals that this House has supported for many years. We are paying down hundreds of millions of dollars of old bills with this supplemental and we are attracting hundreds of millions of dollars of federal Medicaid match into the system that can be used to benefit programs in the State of Illinois. In particular, in the DD area, in old bills for developmentally disabled people 90 million is for DD. That will allow us to spend $180 million and capture $90 million in federal match and 40 million more on Medicaid that will allow us to spend another 90 million. Ladies and Gentlemen, 09800065.docx 128  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 this is good public policy. It supports the policy of the House of fiscal restraint, cutting interest payments that we owe and attracting federal match to pay down old bills. I strongly support this legislation."

"Representative Crespo to close."

"I just ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 206 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Dunkin. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 69 voting 'yes', 47 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 206, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 213, Representative Harris. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Harris, is it correct that you'd like to withdraw Amendment #1?" Harris, G.: "Yeah. I would like to withdraw Amendment #1."

"Mr. Clerk, please withdraw House Amendment #1. Any further Motions?"

"Representative Harris." 09800065.docx 129  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 Harris, G.: "Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen. This is the appropriation for the Human Services Appropriation Committee. That is the Departments of Aging, Public Health, Human Services, Veterans' Affairs, DCFS and others. This Bill we worked within our working group and with the Senate and we believe it matches many of the objectives of the House. We have repaid old bills. We have repaid, through a previous supplemental, $173 million of senior citizen services in the Department of Aging. The Bill that was just passed allows us to pay down other past due bills. These are not new bills. These are bills which have been incurred by providers of services to our senior citizens, to agencies serving folks with developmental disabilities and mental health. We, with this budget, are eliminating the practice that has been in some of our agencies before of underfunding and having to come back for supplementals. We are also eliminating the practice of managing with payment cycle. We are calling upon our large departments to lump sum all their operations and head counts and reduce their operating expenses by two and a half percent and decreasing operations like grant lines by about one percent. There are some that are being held harmless which in the opinion of our committee protects services for working families, prevention, community services for our most frail and vulnerable. Also, we are anticipating expenses related to transition to the insurance exchange and the implementation of the Medicaid reforms that were passed yesterday. I'd like to just highlight some highlights indifferent of the departments. In the Department of Aging, we fully fund the adult protective services to protect adults 09800065.docx 130  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 and people with disabilities. We maintain funding at a level funding for Meals on Wheels for senior citizens. In the Department of Children and Family Services, we are eliminating millions of dollars in vacancies while protecting services for children and services for families. We are making lump-sum cuts to personnel in the Department of Health Care and Family Services in their GRF lines. In the Department of Human Services, we are lump summing their operations and we are asking them to reduce all of their operations by two and a half percent; however, we are maintaining core services to our communities which we feel are critical to our neighborhood's needs. We are maintaining level funding for community mental health services, for substance abuse services, for homeless prevention services and we are providing a modest increase to services for homeless youth. We are maintaining child care services and services for immigrant populations. We are increasing funding for rape victims to mitigate the effects of cuts from Federal Government due to the sequestration. As I said before, we're eliminating the practice of cycling bills in DD and substance abuse to move costs from one year to another. We're holding harmless the autism program. We are restoring cuts that were in the Governor's budget to supportive housing. We are maintaining the funds for indigent burial and we’re giving a modest increase to community youth programming such as Teen REACH. In the Department of Public Health, the committee decided that we cannot simply assume an immediate and smooth transition on January 1 from GRF-based funding to the new insurance exchange and Medicaid programs for people with AIDS 09800065.docx 131  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 and breast and cervical cancer. So, in this budget we are increasing the request from the Governor to ease the transition and be sure that no one who is receiving services and treatment for AIDS or breast and cervical cancer are left behind. We are asking the department to reduce operations. We are providing for the administration of the medical marijuana program which both chambers have passed. We have restored a pilot program for prostate cancer and we have implemented a small program which was mentioned on the floor by a Member opposite to encourage testing, screening and treatment for those with hepatitis B and C. In the Department of Veterans' Affairs, we have managed cuts to that department by using certain funds and other state funds to be sure that we have enough money in the budget to fully staff up our RN funding to meet the new requirements of the nurse staffing ratio. However, I wish to point out to all Members that with all of these changes, our GRF appropriation is $46,739,400 less than in FY13 and our GRF appropriation is about $583 million less than the Governor's introduced budget. I would appreciate your support and I would be happy to answer questions."

"Members, we're going to debate this Bill on Third and we're just going to move it from Second right now to Third Reading. So, the Gentleman moves to adopt Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 213. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read House Bill 213 for a third time." 09800065.docx 132  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"Representative Harris." Harris, G.: "I won't say it again, but I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Thank you. Representative Bellock."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Representative Cavaletto."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Representative Gabel."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I stand… I stand in strong support of… of this Bill. I want to thank the chairman of the committee for really putting together an excellent, excellent budget. And I really want to thank everybody on the committee for the hard work that they did, both the Republicans and the Democrats. This is a budget that is a prevention budget. This is a budget that really looks upstream. We've really tried to take care of the youth to make sure that they get the services they need. And we've also give… looked at protecting people from homelessness to prevent them becoming homeless and saving a lot of money rather than trying to deal with people once they are homeless. There's money in here for screening programs for breast cancer, cervical cancer. This is really an excellent budget and I… I encourage an 'aye' vote from everyone. Thank you."

"Representative Harris to close." Harris, G.: "Ladies and Gentlemen, you know… standing with me here are the people who really made this budget happen, our wonderful staff. I want to thank them as well as the Republican staff for the hard work that folks did and ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 213 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 69 voting 'yes', 47 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 213, having received the Constitutional 09800065.docx 144  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 215, Representative Arroyo. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative, you would like to withdraw Floor Amendment #1?"

"Yes. And adopt Amendment 2."

"Mr. Clerk, please withdraw Amendment #1. Any further Motions?"

"Representative Arroyo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Members of this Body for working with me on this tremendous Capital Bill or I mean, budget Bill. All the Members on the other side, I think that we had a good working group in our… in our work group and also thank the staff. I thanked everybody. I want to also thank the other Members of the Appropriation Committee that also helped us out to be able to get to the funding that they… that we needed. This Bill did a lot of things that a lot of the Members wanted. And that was bring some money to DJJ, Corrections, State Police, Redeploy. And also, we didn't cut any of the matching funds for federal… for federal matching grants. I ask for an 'aye' vote and I'll take any questions."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 215. All in favor say 'aye'; all 09800065.docx 145  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, will you please read House Bill 215 for a third time."

"Representative Arroyo."

"Like… like I said, it was good working with both sides of Public Safety. I think that it was very interesting working with everybody. I think we had a good work group and I also want to thank everybody on both sides of the aisle, especially the guys that… on my committee, it wasn't easy. We also took a break to work with the Senate on this Bill. And I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Reis."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"I think that… we gave them a lump sum. They… operational lump sum."

"All operational."

"Yes." 09800065.docx 146  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"Could you repeat that again, Dave, I didn't hear that?"

"Yes, it's still… it's still like that."

"Yes."

"I believe so."

"Do you have a question, Dave?"

"Yes."

"Yes."

"I believe some of your Members asked us for a report and I believe I gave the report to, I believe, Representative Osmond. I don't know if she shared it with you? So, she has the report."

"Well, they… they deal with all the state agencies that have Latino issue… Latino family issues for the State of Illinois. Some of your Members have Latino members, Latino 09800065.docx 148  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 families that they deal with. They deal with the Governor's Office and they deal with all the state agencies."

"I think that's very good money spent, Dave."

"Those are all reappropriated. No new money."

"There are some new identified projects, but they come from a new revenue source."

"No… no bonding."

"Water Revolving Fund."

"Water Revolving Fund. And most of it comes from the feds."

"We haven't… we haven't broke that down yet, Dave. I would have to…" 09800065.docx 149  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"I don't remember that question this morning. We don't have that list."

"You… you have…"

"We don't… we don't work that fast, Dave."

"You… you have a list, I don't have it. So, you're probably working faster than I am."

"The new stuff came from request from the Governor. For his clean water initiative."

"I'm sorry."

"Representative Osmond."

"He indicates that he will."

"No."

"No, I don't… I don't believe so."

"We took that money from the cadet class and put it in the lump sum. They're also getting a lump sum."

"Yes." 09800065.docx 151  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"They have… they have two cadet classes from a previous fund, from other state funds too."

"Right. Right."

"All three are funded."

"Yes."

"Representative Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Representative, I know you've worked hard on this. I was… I'm just having a chance to go through this and a couple of questions. Did any agency get cut by more than three percent?"

"No."

"But I saw that some got 3 percent and some got less, correct?"

"Yes."

"Okay. Let me ask you this, what was the rationale behind engrossed numbers? Cutting the Appellate Defender while at the same time increasing the Appellate Prosecutor?"

"I think we both… we gave them both 400 thousand."

"But the difference was the Appellate…"

"We… we gave them a 3 percent cut, Jack and then that put 400 thousand back." 09800065.docx 152  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"But the difference…"

"That makes them okay… they're okay with that."

"I'm sorry. I couldn't hear you?"

"I said that they're okay with that 400 thousand."

"But it seems as though the Appellate Defender has about a quarter of a million less than the year before, where the Appellate Prosecutor has an additional 85 thousand?"

"They only have 300 thousand less than last year."

"That's the Defender. But the Prosecutor, I think, ultimately got more money?"

"Just $100 thousand more, Jack."

"Okay. So my point is, the rationale, I just think you, if you're cutting a Defender, you'd think you'd want to level the playing field and… instead of giving the Prosecutor more, and giving the defendant less, but that's, I'm not sure how we got there and that's what I was asking?"

"We made sure that they were both okay…"

"Okay."

"…for what they were asking with this amount."

"Now, I see and this is a minor one and maybe I'm being too nitpicky, but I see the East St. Louis Advisory Board is still being funded. For the life of me, I can't… I don't understand what they do? And why do we need them? Why do they get anything?"

"Jack, I believe that this is their last year. So, after this year they will no longer be funded."

"Okay. Well, that's… that's good to know. I… I'm just concerned because it seems like we're just throwing that money in a black hole. I hate to see them get anything 'cause I… 09800065.docx 153  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 I've never seem them do anything. Now, let me… one of the previous speakers had asked about some of the Capital projects and we were not given a… a list, at least on the Democratic side rank and file and I've not seen a list. And how much more of this in this budget here are new Capital projects that were not simply reallocated?"

"We don't have that number right now in front of us, Jack."

"Do you have a… a ballpark estimate?"

"No."

"I just want to know how these decisions were made 'cause I'm concerned when we have all these unpaid bills, if we would make more sense to actually pay those bills instead of create new projects."

"Frank, we've done this every year since 2009. I mean, any of the Members were allowed to come into these work groups and sit in and see what we were doing."

"Well, since 2009 our budget deficit has ballooned and maybe that's part of the problem. I mean, we're looking here. We've never had such problems paying our bills and maybe we ought to do something differently then, instead of just keep repeating the same mistakes of the past. I wish that, you know, we always complain here… and to the Bill. I appreciate the Sponsor's hard work. We always complain here about the budget process and how it's dumped on us at the last minute and then we pass a budgeting for outcomes Bill that's supposed to change it, but it really doesn't. And then, we have budgets that are dropped on us in the morning and then they're asking us to vote on it 10 hours later and we don't have the 09800065.docx 154  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 information necessary and we can't get the answers we need. So, we're asked to make uniformed decisions on a broken promise and on a broken system that only gets worse. And I know there was a lot of work done in the Appropriations Committees, but I know we can do better than what we've been doing. And I'd encourage a 'no' vote."

"Representative Bill Mitchell." Mitchell, B.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield." Mitchell, B.: "Hi, Mr. Chairman. I worked with you last term when I was on your committee, you do a fine public service."

"I miss you." Mitchell, B.: "I bet you do. Have a question in terms… in the… you know, Illinois is hurting. This year's budget is about $2 billion over last year's budget. We have higher unemployment in our great state and the nation. People are hurting, working people. What… how much is… are we funding in the IDOT budget of the state air fleet, the largest air fleet in the nation, state-owned?"

"Give… give me a minute." Mitchell, B.: "Thank you."

"That would be 265 thousand." Mitchell, B.: "I think the… gosh, I hate to argue. Those aren't our numbers. Our numbers are a little higher than that."

"That's level funding. That's the numbers we have." Mitchell, B.: "No, no. I believe it's about 6.9 million?"

"That's the aeronautic division." 09800065.docx 155  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 Mitchell, B.: "That's correct. And that… that's what I'm talking about. How much does it cost the taxpayers to fund the air fleet?"

"I believe that's out of the Road Fund." Mitchell, B.: "That's my next question. So, how much of that $6.9 million that we… that takes to run the largest air fleet, state-owned air fleet in the nation, with nearly the highest unemployment… how much does that money come out of the Road Fund? How much of that $6.9 million?"

"I'll get you that number." Mitchell, B.: "Tonight? Before we vote?"

"Sure." Mitchell, B.: "I'll wait."

"So… so, if we give you the… if we give you that number now, will you vote for it?" Mitchell, B.: "I'm interested in it. The people…"

"Will you vote for it now if I…" Mitchell, B.: "…the people in central Illinois…"

"…get you the number?" Mitchell, B.: "…the people in Illinois certainly want us to know the amount before any of the 118 Members votes for it. I know you know that."

"Did you have a question?" Mitchell, B.: "I… I… yeah. How much of that $6.9 million comes out of the Road Fund?"

"About 6.5" Mitchell, B.: "So, the majority of this comes out of the Road Fund, that the Road Fund…"

"Yes." 09800065.docx 156  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 Mitchell, B.: "…most people think are to fix roads?"

"I believe so." Mitchell, B.: "Okay. Thank you. And that's my point. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You're always a Gentleman and I appreciate it. The point… and to the Bill, is we're broke. We have high unemployment, hardworking families are barely making it. And yet, the Governor and all the Constitutional Officeholders get to fly around our great state in either a plane or a helicopter. By the way, one helicopter is grounded, it doesn’t work or they don't fly it. It got stuck in the mud in Aurora, I think. Why are we doing this? We… we criticized the CEOs of the three automobile companies when they flew to Washington, D.C., asking for a bailout and they flew in their private jets. We criticized them and we should have. So, why does this great state allow its Chief Executive and Members of the General Assembly and all the hoity-toities to hop on a plane when we're insolvent? We're broke. We should vote 'no' on this budget. Thank you."

"Representative Kay."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Dwight, there's no GRF in Capital Development Board." 09800065.docx 157  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"The operation part?"

"That's so we could be up-to-date electronically and we could monitor the prisons 'cause they're all back in paper… they still do all paper…"

"…pushing."

"Right. Right. Yes." Kay: Okay. And then I see it looks like a million, almost 2 million that we're putting toward personnel services… personal services and fringe benefits. Is that correct?"

"Yes."

"What was that, Dwight?"

"Two point eight million."

"Two… 2.8 million."

"I'll have to get that to you in a few minutes, Dwight."

"We're hiring seven people, head count is seven. Percentage, I couldn't figure out a percentage, Dwight."

"Yes."

"Yes."

"Yes."

"Trying to."

"I believe so."

"We don't know what's going to happen next year, Dwight."

"We're hoping that this is a one time."

"It… it would seem right. We're… this is the problem that we had in our committee, Dwight, where they came to us… 09800065.docx 159  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013 Corrections came to us and asked us for $93 million and we could not give them the $93 million. So, we found from the new moneys we got, $70 million. And we're going to avoid from closing prisons because everybody in our workgroup had a problem. Because then, like Mitchell said, that would have been unemployment. So we diverted unemployment and we diverted from closing any more prisons. So, this is… I think that this is a good part. And we gave them a lump sum so they could decide where they're going to spend their money."

"Well, according…"

"…to what the Governor told us, he's not looking to close any more prisons."

"Last… last year was a different…"

"…situation with Tamms, Dwight."

"You were in all those meetings."

"I don't know nothing about that."

"It surprises me… I haven't read the Sun-Times, so I wouldn't know."

"Tribune."

"I don't read the Tribune."

"That was… that wasn't what we worked in our workgroups."

"Yes."

"Yes."

"I believe it's 4.7 million."

"No, no we did not, Dwight. No. But that's what we put it in CJIA because CJIA's going to get a performance on the money that they put in there."

"That's the same one we had last year."

"It really… it really is a meth program."

"Dwight, I can't hear you?"

"I can't hear you."

"Members, can we please bring the volume down in the chamber? This is the final speaker on the final Appropriation Bill for the day."

"It is. It is, Dwight. It's a juvenile… it's a juvenile center where they treat people that have been taken… that meth…"

"We're… we're still below the Governor's request."

"Overall, Dwight?" 09800065.docx 162  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"Over all of GRF or just Corrections?"

"We're 25 million under."

"Correct."

"Well… well, Dwight, those are… that's one of the programs that some of the Members in your committee advocated for and they wanted to make sure that they fully got funded. So, that was one of the pressures that we tried to alleviate in our workgroup…"

"…a request from your side."

"Seven million."

"Seven million."

"They lost their federal match, so now we have to fully fund them and it expands the program."

"Right. Right."

"Yes."

"Excuse me, Dwight?"

"Which… which line are you talking about, Dwight?"

"That… that's a request from the Senate."

"Yes, we did."

"I don't remember who… we… we discussed that with the Senate when we had a working group with the Senate."

"And that was one of the…" 09800065.docx 164  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"One hundred and seventy-seven thousand."

"I think that was an increase."

"Last year we cut a lot of programs for recidivism. So, this one we funded."

"Yeah."

"That was from an allocation."

"From our allocation."

"We got money from other committees."

"Other… other committees."

"General Services…"

"…and then the Income… the Income Tax Refund Fund."

"Various moneys came from different places, with a reduced income refund fund and some of it came from, I believe, General Services." 09800065.docx 165  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"I… I couldn't tell you… I couldn’t tell you about next year."

"That's 4…"

"…4.7 million, Dwight."

"Four point seven million."

"Yes. That was another issue we negotiated with the Senate side."

"Yes."

"We haven't gotten that information and that's why the Governor and we decided to put it in CJIA."

"I believe so."

"The… what fund is that, Dwight?"

"What… what… what line is that from?"

"From what committee?"

"From CJIA?"

"What… what agency?"

"What agency?"

"We reduced various funds on the state fund… various lines on the state fund."

"And it droves the number up."

"I believe so."

"Representative Kay."

"Could you please bring your remarks to a close?"

"Understood."

"Could I answer that, Dwight? We… we spent a lot of time together and I think that we drew the line when we got to 2 weeks ago or a week ago. I thought that we were… we were at the line that we didn't need to discuss… we tried to go along with what everybody asked on that side of the aisle. We tried to meet you halfway, so… I mean, some Members missed a meeting. I missed a meeting, I didn't go to all the meetings. So, this is what happened."

"Representative Arroyo to close."

"Thank you… thank you, Mr. Speaker and to all the Members here for being patient to listen to all this testimony. But I want to thank the Republican side for working with me and spending all the time we spent together. Dwight, I think that we spent a lot of time together. I thought that was… that was enough time. But I also want to thank all the Members of the Appropriations-Public Safety and the battalion of staff that I have here helping me out with this Bill. But I want to thank everybody for being patient. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 215 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 69 voting 'yes', 47 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present', House Bill 215, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Dunkin, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm… Take it easy. Take it easy. At ease. On House Bill 206, I wish to have voted 'yes'. And on House Bill 213 please let the record reflect a 'yes' vote. Thank you, Sir, for your indulgence."

Speaker Turner: "The Journal will reflect your request. Representative Manley." 09800065.docx 169  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 65th Legislative Day 5/28/2013

"Point of personal privilege."

"Please state your point."

"Just a reminder to the freshmen, there is a photo going to be taken tomorrow 20 minutes before Session. Please, if you can make it, there's going to be a group photo. All of us then we're going to break off into our respective Parties. Twenty minutes before whatever time that is tomorrow. Thank you."

"Thank you, Representative. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

"Representative Currie moves to adopt the Agreed Resolution. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. Mr. Clerk, committee announcements."

"And now, allowing for perfunctory time for the Clerk, Leader Currie moves that the House adjourn until Wednesday, May 29 at the hour of 1 p.m., 1 p.m. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the House is adjourned. Representative Sullivan has a quick message."

"Rain or shine. Thank you, Members."