Illinois House Floor Debate — April 24, 2015

"Morning, Members. We shall be led in prayer today by Pastor Rod Joplin, who is with New Life Church in Benton, Illinois. Pastor Joplin is the guest of Representative Bradley. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off all cell phones, and rise for the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance."

"We shall be led in the Pledge of Allegiance today by Representative Dan Burke." Burke, D. – et al: "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record show that Representatives D'Amico, Feigenholtz, Jones, and Zalewski are excused today."

"Leader Bellock. Leader Brown."

Speaker Turner: "With 111 Members present, a quorum is established. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Barbara Wheeler for what reason do you seek recognition?" Wheeler, B.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed." Wheeler, B.: "I'd like to address the 100th anniversary of the Armenian Genocide. ‘Who after all, speaks today of the an… annihilation of the Armenians.’ Thank you, Mr. Speaker. ‘Who after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians.’ Those were the haunting words spoken by Adolph Hitler in 1939, foreshadowing the Holocaust he would thereafter unleash on the Jewish population of the… on… in Nazi Europe. The Armenians to whom he referred were the 1.5 million men, women, and children who were brutally slaughtered by their government in the Turkish-Ottoman Empire between the years 1915 and 1923. A hundred years ago today, on April 24, prominent Armenians were rounded up and murdered. The precursor of the coordinated effort by the Ottoman-Turkish Empire to eradicate the entire Armenian population. Intent on 09900038.docx 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 ensuring there were no remaining traces of the Ottoman… the Armenians, the Ottoman government systematically destroyed the Armenian churches, schools, public records, gravesites, and other institutions. In 1915, there were 2 million Armenians living in Turkey. By 1923 there were only 500 survivors left in the world. Many of the original survivors made their way to Waukegan, the Chain of Lakes, Granite City, East Saint Louis, and Chicago. Today, Illinois is the home to thousands of descendants of the genocide survivors. Illinois Armenians, like our friend and colleague Ruth Munson, who is on the floor with us today, ask that we commemorate the hundredth anniversary of the Armenian Genocide, the first genocide of the 20th century, so that by doing so, we hope to prevent others from occurring. They ask that we remember those who were murdered, so their lives and deaths are not lost to history. They ask that the… remember the survivors were never reunited with their loved ones, but who had to carry on. Since the first genocide and the Holocaust that followed, the world has witnessed atrocities in Russia, Cambodia, Ethiopia, Rwanda, Sudan, Bosnia, Syria, Nigeria, and many more. Last week Pope Francis stood in solidarity with the victims of the Armenian Genocide. 'It seems that human… the human family has refused to learn from its mistakes caused by the law of terror. So that today, too, there are those who attempt to eliminate others with the help of a few, and with a complicit silence of others who simply stand by. We must never be dissuaded from boldly speaking of and against the horrors in this world so that our children, and their children, will never ever have to endure such terror’s. Earlier this month, 09900038.docx 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 I introduced House Resolution 360 to commemorate the hundredth anniversary of the Armenian Genocide. I urge my colleagues to sign and cosponsor this message to m… to give the message to the world that we stand against violence and we stand for humanity. I also respectfully ask that House Resolution 360 be released from Rules and be allowed to continue through the legislative process. Today, let's answer the question, who speaks for the annihilation of Armenians. We do. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Thank you, Representative. The Body will take a moment of silence. Thank you, Representative. Members, we're going to begin with Bills on the Order of Second Reading. Please be prepared to move your Bill to Third Reading. House Bill 1452, Representative Walsh. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Walsh."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Floor Amendment 1 becomes the Bill. What this does is expands alternative language ballots into areas that don’t have them under current law. I'd ask for its adoption."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 1452. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Walsh."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. All right. House Bill 1452, as I stated before, creates the ability for sectors of areas that have high concentration of non-proficient English speaking citizens to have access to language ballots in their area. Right now, the Voting Rights Act requires ballots in other language based on county population. In many areas in Illinois, there are signicat… significant concentrated populations of people who do not speak English proficiently, who are a small minority of that total county's population. So, this legislation would require ballots to be printed in other language where there significant amounts of non-English speaking American citizens within census tracks. We've worked through the technical aspects of what the U.S. Census reports as limited English proficiency populations, so that the county clerks and election authorities will be able to id… identify these areas. Just as they print different ballots along the lines of precincts, State Rep. Districts, Congressional Districts, et cetera, they'll be able to print these ballots in these other languages. The census tracks are larger than census blocks and are often larger than precincts. So, this choice of geographic will capture concentrated populations. We want to accommodate without overly burdening the election authorities and these census tracks also change less frequently than precincts do, so they should be easier to use this for the purpose than just going by regular 09900038.docx 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 precincts. And I ask for an 'aye' vote, be happy to answer any questions."

"Representative Sandack."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Actually, the County Clerk Association is still opposed to the Bill."

"It will cost them money."

"The… it would be the election authorities."

"Yeah."

"To my knowledge, no."

"Representative Walsh to close."

"Thank you. And I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1452 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Breen, Cloonen, Costello, Flowers, Thapedi, 09900038.docx 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 Sullivan. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 61 voting 'yes', 49 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 1452, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1588, Representative Bennett. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Bennett."

"We just want to adopt the Amendment right now."

"Gentleman moves that we adopt Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 1588. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Bennett."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1588 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting 09900038.docx 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Drury. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 1588, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2683, Representative Will Davis. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Will Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 2683 replaces the uniform adequately… adequate yearly progress criteria with a multiple measure index comprised of specific annual measurable objectives for each public school. House Bill 2683, again, replaces the academic watch and warning designations for underperforming schools with priority and focused schools, and it also makes additional changes. Essentially, Ladies and Gentlemen, what's taking place here is that ISBE applied for a waiver to get away from the adequate yearly progress criteria for schools and as… in… instead trying to put what they call a multiple measure index in place. And what they're essentially trying to do is that to recognize that for school districts sometimes getting from point A to point C is not attainable within the course of a 09900038.docx 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 school year. So, what they're trying to do is recognize that if a school district moves students from point A to point B that that should be recognized and schools should not be penalized for making that kind of… of movement. In my district, I used to have a school district that had a 98 percent mobility rate. That means that in a given year 98 percent of the children were going to change in the course of a year, and under that kind of context, it would be difficult for that school to ever meet its criteria that was under the No Child Left Behind Act. So, this is a waiver that ISBE applied for. They received the waiver and what we're trying to do is just codify the contents of the waiver that they received from the U.S. Department of Education. Be more than happy to answer any questions."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 2683 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2683, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3289, Representative Breen. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." 09900038.docx 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Representative Breen."

"Members, we have a number of people seeking recognition on this Bill and a large number of Bills to move through today. Can we please keep the noise level down while the debate is going on? Thank you very much. Representative Drury."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative, can you describe for… for the rest of us who may not be familiar with red light cameras exactly how they work and what their purpose is?"

"Who determines where these data readers go?"

"So, if… if law enforcement decides it wants to go to minority neighborhood and just put 10 of these cameras on every street corner, they can just do that? You don’t need any… any court order? They… it's just up to their discretion how they want to profile?"

"What protections in your Bill prevent racial profiling?"

"So, your Bill, in essence, if there’s a rogue law enforcement officer, it will allow racial profiling to happen and then it will allow the camera to keep the data for 30 months afterwards to do what they want to do with that?"

"Excuse me, Representative. Excuse me."

"Members, we cannot hear the debate. Can you please bring the noise level down and take all conversations to the rear of the chamber? Thank you."

"And… and just for people when… when it was loud. What we're talking about is these red light cameras and the potential use of them for racial profiling. And this Bill… 09900038.docx 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 and there's going to be more questions, I just want to catch people up. It allows law enforcement to put cameras to read license plates in any area at their discretion. Whether it's in a minority neighborhood, or any neighborhood, and then keep that data for up to 30 months. Now originally, the period was 30 days. Thirty days is one month. It's now gone up to two and a half years. Why… why such a big… 23 month, or 29 month jump between committee and getting to the floor?"

"To the Bill. Friends, colleagues, I think we need to think long and hard about how we're going to vote on this Bill. I appreciate what the Representative has done. I understand he… he wants to make a move in the right direction. But this Bill 09900038.docx 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 has no safeguards on where these cameras can go. It doesn't require any judged or any standard to say that a camera can be put up somewhere. Law enforcement usually, if it… if it wants to do… use tracking devices, has to go to a judge who has to say there's some probable cause, some sort of cause to start tracking people. We don’t have any of that. The original Bill said that this could be done for 30 days; it's now 30 months. This is a very dangerous precedent. I understand that we want to move in the right direction. But I think that maybe we gave in a little bit too early, and if the negotiations had continued, we would have got a lot better Bill that has a lot more restrictions… prohibitions in it. I'm going to ask for a 'no' vote on this Bill because what it's doing is it's allowing racial profiling for 30 months. And that is a very dangerous precedent to be setting. It's very dangerous policy. I'm happy to work on the Bill with the Sponsor. I think it's important policy, but I don’t think it's soup yet. I think that we… if we let this Bill go, it's never going to be whittled down to one month, it's going to whittled up to more and more months. So, we're starting too high. It creates dangerous precedent for a lot us for a lot of our communities and we just need to get a better grip on this and maybe get the judicial system involved before these cameras can just be put up anywhere in any neighborhood tracking anybody. And then they can keep the data for 30 months. So, I ur… urge a 'no' vote. Thank you."

"Members, given the number of people seeking recognition and the number of Bills we have to move through today, we will moving to a timer for the rest of the debate, 09900038.docx 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 two-minute timer. Keep your remarks short. Representative Moffitt."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Representative Thapedi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Thank you. Representative, I want to get a little clarification. I think you heard a little earlier, from an earlier speaker that was referring to red light cameras and asking for a 'no' vote. This has nothing to do with red light cameras. Am I correct?"

"All right. This is about automatic license plate cameras that focus in on the license plates on vehicles. Is that accurate?"

"Do these readers actually take pictures, either still or moving, of a person's face?"

"Okay. And… and if I understand correctly the ACLU is supporting this Bill. Is that correct?"

"And… and that is. So let me back up a little bit. The ACLU, do you think that the ACLU would support something that potentially could be linked to racial profiling?"

"Okay. Now, with respect to legislative intent and a little background on exactly what your proposal is, are there any other states that are regulating these types of devices?"

"And when you say regulations, what do you mean by that?"

"Okay. So, when you're… when you…"

"Representative, please bring your remarks to a close."

"Certainly. Finally, you've fully vetted this issue. We've talked about it extensively in the Judiciary Committee. Is there any additional work that you could potentially do to put to rest some of the concerns that have been raised this morning?"

"Mr. Speaker, to the Bill very quickly and briefly. We fully vetted this Bill with… with plenty of testimony in the Judiciary Committee. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Williams."

"…you Mr… thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. First of all, I want to thank and commend the Sponsor for working in such a collaborative way with those of us working on this issue on this side of the aisle. It's been a real pleasure to work with you and maybe this will be the one and only time we'll work so closely on the issue, but I certainly hope not. The Bill is… ALPR technology is just one of many amazing new technologies that law… allow law enforcement to do things that we could never imagine they would do in terms of surveillance and frankly, catching the bad guys. So ALPR technology certainly is a great tool for law enforcement, but 09900038.docx 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 it also comes with, and all these advances in technology do, come with significant concerns in terms of erosion of privacy. It's not realistic to expect law enforcement to put limits on itself or to police itself, no pun intended. It's up to us to provide that balance. We are the guardians of our own civil liberties. These new technologies truly are amazing and we're only going to see them improve over time. But just because we can do something, doesn't mean we should do something. Law enforcement, frankly, is not easy in a free society. It comes with a lot of challenges. As far as the concerns about law enforcement, we want to do what we can to ensure that law enforcement has these tools. Because of that, Representative Breen added an Amendment that would provide that in cases of forcible felonies, violent crimes, and terrorism, warrants could be achieved to get this data for an unlimited period of time. So, don’t get hung up on the time period, law enforcement can still do its job into the future because of the Amendments that we added. We want to be safe, we want lawy… law enforcement to have these tools, but we must balance this with our free society where we can walk down the street, we can drive wherever we want, we can hang out in any neighborhood we want without being tracked and without being monitored. These are all hallmarks of a free society. This value distinguishes us from many other places in the world. It's why so many of us, if you look at the… I'd invite you to take a look at the cosponsor list. It's amazing…"

"Representative… and bring…"

"…to see… Yes, absolutely. It's amazing to see the wide variety of people with different perspectives, different 09900038.docx 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 viewpoints that all come together to protect our basic rights to privacy. I'd urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Monique Davis for two minutes." Davis, M.: "Okay. Wi… why do we need this Bill, why?"

"Representative Tabares for two minutes."

"May the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative, I represent a portion of the Village of Riverside and I notice that they… on my analysis, they're still an opponent. I know you spoke earlier in debate that there are a series of opponents. So, my question is, is the Village of Riverside still opposed to this Bill?"

"You're not moving this Bill and… if it passes in the House, did you say you're not moving it in the Senate?"

"Yet. With those…"

"Okay. Thank you, Representative."

"Representative Flowers for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Sir, why is this Bill necessary?"

"But wait a minute."

"If it… if there's zero regulation now, whoever is using it is… they should not be using it because there's no right or laws that give them the right to use it. So, they are violating people's privacy. So, they should be arrested. That's #1."

"This is a new Act and those people have no authority to do what they're doing."

"But… but excuse me, I'm sorry, I'm missing the point here. What give them the right to use this without us giving them the right? And as a result, they are breaking the law. And I want them to be held accountable. That's #1. Number 2, here people… these people that's now breaking the law is saying that this information is not subject to Freedom of Information Act, not unless the person is being… is subject of the investigation consent to it? Excuse me? How do we know that we’re under investigation that… so the lawyers can find out the information that you may have. Why is it that these people that's now breaking the law will be able to have information on me that I cannot get not unless I give consent to do so?"

"Sir, they're killing people without permission and reasons as well. That does not make it right. And so my point 09900038.docx 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 to you is what they are doing now is in violation of the law. Let me ask this other question. Is it… is it public information…"

"Representative…"

"Excuse me, I have one more question, Sir. Is it public information what our license plates are and who the license plates belong to?"

"I'm ask…"

"So, therefore, it is public information but yet under your Bill, you're going to make this un-FOIA."

"They're doing it now, Sir."

"Representative, you have to bring your remarks to a close…"

"They are illegally doing it now. This is…"

"…we have other people seeking recognition."

"Thank… thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is a very bad Bill. The people that's doing it now is in violation of the law and they should be reprimanded for doing so. I urge a 'no' vote."

"Representative David Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Question of the Sponsor."

"Sponsor will yield." 09900038.docx 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 Harris, D.: "Representative, in… in conversations that I've had with my police chiefs, they tell me that if their police officers, as an example, went to two of the locations which you used in your remarks, if they went to a mosque or if they went to a gun show, individually, on foot, and wrote down all of the license plate numbers that they could write down during the period of time that they were there that there would be no prohibition whatsoever as to how long they could keep, maintain, or use those, that information. Is that correct?"

"Representative Sullivan."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative Arroyo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative, what district… what district do you sit on? I don’t know your district."

"What would that be?"

"Do you… do you have minorities in that district? Is there any minorities in there?"

"What… what's the percentage of minorities you have there?"

"Well, I don’t need it, but I could tell you, this affects minorities. This is racial profiling at its best. Ladies and Gentlemen, if you have minorities in your district, this is racial profiling. Invasion of privacy. Cut it out. Every time you guys want to racial profile it comes from that side of the aisle. Stop doing this.” 09900038.docx 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

“Stop doing this. This affects our district."

"Who are you in agree…"

"How can you… how can you have a Bill that you're trying to eliminate devices? I don’t understand that."

"Well, I'm…"

"…I'm talking about… I'm talking about your Bill now."

"You got a Bill… what is… what is this device? Is it a camera? Is it a computer? Is it a recorder? What is this?"

"It's a what?"

"So now…"

"You only… you got a camera and a computer."

"And what… and what are you going to do with all this information you gather. And what is the purpose of this?" 09900038.docx 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"I… I could stay here and talk to you about why this Bill is no good. But apparently, I don’t want to be cut off of this mic. But I'm going to ask anybody that has any minorities in their district not to vote for this Bill because this is racial profiling. Thank you very much."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank… thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"So, Representative, is there anything in our laws today that makes the collection… the taking of somebody's picture, of somebody's license plate illegal?"

"And… and this isn't… there isn’t some generic privacy law that's makes this illegal?"

"So, when law enforcement and private companies are taking pictures of license plate readers today, there's nothing in our laws that we can use to stop that behavior?"

"Murder… murder… We have made murder illegal."

"We have made it a crime. To this date, the General Assembly has done nothing to make the collection of this data re… regulated or restricted or controlled in any way."

"So, this law will, in fact, narrow the use of this so that those that wish to use this for racial profiling are restricted in using it for racial profiling."

"So this is an important privacy protection that we should be voting 'yes' for in order to protect against racial profiling."

"So, to the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, I know there's a lot of confusion about what this does. Right now, there's no regulation on the use of these cameras. We cannot let the perfect be the enemy of the good. This is a good start on restricting the use of these cameras, getting the data under control, protecting our privacy. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Phelps."

"Mr. Speaker, I can't wait to see my daughter. I move the previous question."

"Gentleman has requested we move the previous question. In the opinion of the Chair, the que… the previous question is put. Representative Breen to close."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 3289 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Andrade, Chapa LaVia, Flowers, Franks, Lilly, Smiddy, Wallace. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 75 voting 'yes', 24 voting 'no', and 11 voting 'present', House Bill 3289, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Arroyo, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Personal privilege… point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed, Representative."

"Based on the Bill that just passed, I wanted to talk to Representative Breen. I'm sorry for the comments. I misunderstood the debate. I thought that you was trying to 09900038.docx 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 pass a Bill that did racial profiling, but I guess I was corrected. So I stand corrected. Sorry for the miscommunication. And I also voted for your Bill. Thank you."

"Thank you, Representative. House Bill 2743, Representative McAsey. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill for a third time."

"Representative McAsey."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 2743 is an initiative that I'm sponsoring because our state is in the midst of a crisis. Our state is suffering from a drug abuse epidemic. In communities all over the state, opioid prescription drug abuse is rampant. In each corner of our state, communities struggle to combat a growing heroin abuse epidemic. In 2012, there were 339 deaths statewide, overdose deaths. That’s a 56 percent increase. This Body has recognized the growing epidemic. In an effort to take meaningful action, it has convened the Heroin Abuse Task Force, the Young and the Young Adult Heroin Use Task Force. These legislative committees heard hours of testimony to understand the scope of the problem and approaches to solve it. Numerous legislative proposals have been introduced and communities have been taking action. They've been training law 09900038.docx 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 enforcement officers to administer Narcan. There have been numerous community forums held to raise awareness. In our schools, educational efforts have increased to address this growing epidemic. And while each of these efforts is meaningful and plays a very important part, working together I do believe that we can make a difference, but those efforts alone are not enough. We need to attack addiction at its source. Today, we do have an opportunity to do that, to take meaningful action to stop the epidemic. We have the opportunity in House Bill 2743 to support coverage of abuse deterrent formulation of opioid prescription drugs. This new FDA approved technology is expected to result in meaningful reductions in abuse. The technology deters abuse because, unlike traditional formulations that are easily crushed and snorted and injected, these formulations won't crush or sometimes have antidotes in the event of tampering. Some abuse deterrent formulations are already abuse deterred and available for patients. More will be soon. House Bill 2743 simply directs the providers of health care coverage offer abuse deterrent formulations at the same tier as other prescription pain medications or simply put, provide coverage for this technology. It also states that a person doesn’t need to first try a traditional formulation. I believe that this is a commonsense way to treat addiction at its source and prevent abuse or addiction before it begins. This Bill, it is important to note, does not require a physician to prescribe one formulation or another, but it allows for doctors and patients to make the most appropriate treatment decision together. Perhaps because a patient has a teenager 09900038.docx 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 in the home and is fearful that their teenager is going to go into the medicine cabinet or that they… that individual has a history of substance abuse or problems. What this Bill will do is to ensure that when that individual goes to the pharmacy their prescription will be filled. FDA approved ADF technology has demonstrated meaningful reduction in abuse. House Bill 2743 makes that technology accessible and affordable to reduce future abuse. Anyone who is concerned about prescription opioid abuse or heroin abuse in our communities, anyone who is concerned about their children being exposed at a party or their niece or nephew going into grandma's medicine cabinet, anyone who is concerned about their parents, their siblings, their neighbors, or their coworkers using someone else's prescription, anyone who, like me, is shocked at the number of lives that we have lost and bodies put in the ground should support this commonsense measure. There are many entities in support. They include Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan, the Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police, the Illinois Alcoholism and Drug Dependence Association, the Illinois Fire Chiefs Association, the Illinois Poison Control Center, the Illinois Sheriff's Association, the Illinois State Medical Society, the Lake County State's Attorney Michael Nerheim, Sangamon County Sheriff Wes Barr, and DuPage County Coroner Dr. Richard Jorgensen. Though I am very hopeful, I'm realistic enough to admit that this is not the magic bullet that will end the epidemic. I wish, but I don't believe, that there will never be another addict or overdose, but I do believe that providing coverage for abuse deterrent formulations of opioids is an 09900038.docx 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 important piece that will have a positive impact. Please support this legislation to address the widespread opioid abuse epidemic. Thank you."

"Shhh. Members, please bring the noise level down in the chamber. Thank you. Representative Sandack for two minutes."

"Representative Ives for two minutes."

"Members, a verification has been requested by Representative Ives. Representative Soto for two minutes."

"Yes. To the Bill. I just want to let my colleagues know, today, we sit on… I sit on the Human Service Committee, where the parents came in and talked about what this pill does. It has harmed a lot of young people and… and I'm sure older people too, but… I'm not saying seniors. But just to see… I mean, it just broke my heart. I almost got emotional because… could you imagine your child taking something like this and dying from it? Those families were there. They were… I mean, just hearing those horror stories about what was going on. You know what, I think, this is a ver… I think… you know what I'm going to just say, I urge this General Assembly to vote for this Bill. It's a very important Bill. It's going to help a lot of families that are going to, in the future, maybe even lose their children. I'm serious. This is a very important Bill and it's going to help a lot of families where their children are on drugs or even maybe going into the medicine cabinet and finding these types of pills in there. So, I urge this General Assembly to support this Bill. It's a very important Bill. It's not any other reason; it's about the families that are losing their children. So, please vote for this Bill. Thank you." 09900038.docx 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Representative Greg Harris." Harris, G.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield." Harris, G.: "Representative, when we were talking earlier about this Bill, you know, I thought you were going to in your remarks say something that I… I did not hear and I want to be sure that I understood this. That… I think there's some, you know, legitimate concern among, you know, private and public payers about the cost of this Bill and about issues regarding appropriate prior authorization and utilization review. Is that correct?"

"I would agree with you that, certainly, there have been some valid concerns that have been raised. It is my intention that this legislation would continue to be worked on this spring in the Senate. Senator Kotowski is the Senate Sponsor. I know that he is willing to work with all the interested parties and it is my hope that in the Senate we are able to have meaningful discussion and address those concerns and bring back a different Bill to this Body to continue to work towards this important goal of abuse deterrence." Harris, G.: "So, again, it… it's your intent that the issues of some of the payers with regard to prior authorization and utilization review would be negotiated as this Bill moves forward in the Senate?"

"Absolutely, that's my intent." Harris, G.: "Thank you."

"Leader Bellock."

"Sponsor will yield."

"This legislation would require that the abuse deterrent formulation is on the preferred drug tier and would also say that an individual does not have to first use a traditional formulation prior to being able to prescribe that abuse deterrent formulation. That's correct."

"I… it does do that. And I actually think that that's a very important piece because I think that someone shouldn’t have to demonstrate that they have formed an addiction to an opioid before they're able to have the abuse deterrent formulation. Right? So, if we don’t do that then the goal of this is completely thwarted."

"Representative Feigenholtz for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in strong support of this Bill. The previous speaker has been here for many years. She knows that we often send legislation over to the Senate, often a much more difficult chamber to negotiate these kinds of Bills with on these issues. But I ask everyone in the chamber to think about the science and technology emerging from this industry to help us address the issue of addiction, which is of epidemic proportion, not just in the city but in rural and the suburban areas of the cit… of the State of Illinois. The… the drugs that we're talking about are a new class of drugs. They have met FDA standards, above and beyond any other type of technology that we've seen, as a response to the opioid problem we have in the state. I think we as a chamber, more than the Senate, have made the issue of addiction, and heroin, and opioid problems front and center with the Bills that Representative Lang and others have been working on. This is part of that answer. Let's advance this. Yes, there is a cost problem. We are going to work on this. This is how things work. They wind their way from the House to the Senate, we make a strong statement, we are aware of 09900038.docx 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 this epidemic, and we as a chamber want to do something about it. This should be part of the solution. Vote 'aye'."

"Representative Wallace for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"I rise in support of this Bill, as vice-chair of the Human Services Committee and a former drug counselor. I do understand the points that have been made by the other side of the aisle. Particularly when we talk about the most common forms of abuse, but we must note that oral abuse actually takes a longer period of time for your body to metabolize these pills orally. What these deterrent pills will do is prevent individuals from injecting or snorting these pills which lead to more acute addiction. The oral transmission of the drug through the body is a much slower process. It takes out… through the metabolism it starts to lower the addictive properties of opiates. Therefore, this particular pill would start to address the very thing that has already been brought up. There was also a mention of the cost of methadone. Methadone is a form of treatment once an individual has already become addicted to opiates and Methadone moves an individual to a point of stabilization so that they do not go back to utilizing street drugs, but it, in no way, is really connected to this particular pill. Again, as vice-chair and former addiction counselor, I rise in support of this Bill and thank you for bringing it to this Body."

"Representative Kay for two minutes."

"The Sponsor will yield." 09900038.docx 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"I am aware of the fiscal note that there is an estimate of a cost of $55 million. I would say that there is a lot of question about what exactly the amount of utilization of this formulation would be. As I said in my opening remarks, there is no mandate that this formulation be prescribed over the traditional formulation. And so, I think there's truly question about the cost, both to the Medicaid system as well as to private insurance. And I do believe that those cost estimates do not take into account the potential savings as a result of these additional costs on the front end to deter abuse. So for example, hospitalization costs commercial insurers $9 thousand on average, $4 thousand on average to Medicaid. Substance abuse treatment, $4 thousand… more than $4 thousand to commercial insurers and $2 thousand to Medicaid. Emergency room visits, about $900 to commercial insurers, $448 to Medicaid. Outpatient visits, $295…"

"…198."

"Certainly there are many warnings that are placed on addictive medications that are dispensed. Just because there's a warning on the bottle, doesn’t mean that an individual is not going to abuse that medication. An individual can certainly read that but then turn around and crush the pill or their teenage child can go and do the same or, you know, break into someone's house to… to take and abuse that prescription opioid."

"Representative Kay, please bring your remarks to a close."

"Representative Hammond."

"Leader Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. I'm quite sure that the Body knows that for a year, or close to a year there was a Heroin Abuse Task Force that traveled the state. Thirty-nine Members of the House were members of that task force. Out of that task force came a Bill called House Bill 1. We're still in the process of negotiating that Bill and there are several Members of the House involved in those negotiations, Mr. Anthony, Mr. Cabello, Mr. McAuliffe, Mr. Yingling, and others. We're going to have what I think might be an agreed Bill with some of the people that have been opposed from the beginning and it's a very, very comprehensive look at many of the issues we've been starting to talk about here on the floor today. And I'll look forward to your support on that. But as for this Bill, Representative McAsey has worked hard to put before you a Bill to deal with a very specific problem. It's a… one niche of the large Bill that I'll be presenting to you soon. And this is an important niche. The opioid problem in our state is blossoming out of control in a geometric way. You all know this. And for people on this floor to use the cost as a rationale for turning your back on the people of the State of Illinois that need our help is not a good direction to go. Yes, there's a cost. And yes, we have to be cost conscious. But every item in the state budget, all five million lines of that state budget, are a matter of priorities. When we get to drafting the state budget, we can determine what we wish to pay for and what we 09900038.docx 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 do not wish to pay for. So, whether this will cost 55 million, as has been alleged, or some lesser number, even some greater number, our responsibility today is to provide the substantive underpinnings for what we're going to begin to do to deal with the opioid problem in our state. We have thousands of Illinois citizens who have a problem. We have hundreds who are overdosing, hundreds who are dying. And to simply say, well, we're going to read a list of opponents and turn our back on the very neediest of Illinois in this area is really a wrong direction. To say, well, it costs x dollars means it's going to go in the wrong direction. I would suggest we send this Bill to the Senate, where we can continue to work on it. I strongly suggest your 'aye' votes."

"Representative Thapedi for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"Good morning, Representative. How are you?"

"Good morning. Well. How are you?"

"Good. I just want to get a little clarification from you with respect to legislative intent. Are you familiar with the lawsuit that was brought by the City of Chicago against five mar… five pharmaceutical companies, one of which is a proponent of the Bill, for misrepresentation and deceiving the public in order to boost corporate profits from the sale of opiates?"

"I am aware of that lawsuit. I believe that that lawsuit is unrelated to this legislation. This legislation advances the use of opioid medications with FDA approved claims of abuse deterrent properties, supported by the FDA, the White 09900038.docx 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 House, physician groups, public health experts, and addiction specialists. It's not about any one company. In fact, a number of pharmaceutical companies are…"

"Okay. Well… well, hold on…"

"…developing these medicines presently."

"…I'm… I'm on a timer. So, let me… let me ask the next question. Would you agree with me that one of the defendants in that action is one of the proponents of this Bill?"

"That's my understanding. But as I said…"

"Okay. My… my next question is…"

"…there are multiple companies who do…"

"Understood. Understood."

"…make this and are in development of this technology as well."

"Understood and I only have 50 seconds…"

"This… and this legislation…"

"…so if you could bear with me. The last question is, I know that you have an orthopedic surgeon at home, so have you seen the New England Journal of Medicine article on this topic, which is entitled Effective Abuse Deterrent Formulation of OxyContin. Have you… are you familiar with that article?"

"I'm not familiar with that article."

"Okay. And that article actually concluded that abuse deterrent formulations lead to an increase in heroin use. A use and abuse which is far more dangerous than what we're discussing here. Would you agree with that?"

"I would not agree with that statement. I… I believe that these new technologies are FDA approved and are able to use 09900038.docx 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 that abuse deterrent label only if and when they show that they will result in a meaningful reduction of abuse. And… so, for that reason, you know, I… I disagree with that statement."

"So, you disagree with the…"

"Representative, bring your remarks to a close. Thank you."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think I've made my point."

"Representative Brown for two minutes."

"Thank you, Representative. Representative McAsey to close."

"Thank you very much, Members of the House. Thank you for the thoughtful debate on this issue. I do believe that this is meaningful legislation designed to put an important tool in the toolbox as we work to address the abuse epidemic in our community. I would ask the Members of this Body, how many of you are cosponsoring a Bill that attack substance abuse this year? This Bill tackles the problem right at its heart. This Bill helps to put in the hands of patients formulations that are approved by the FDA to be labeled as abuse deterrent because they have demonstrated they will result in a meaningful reduction in abuse. This Bill fights the problem that all of our districts face. To the opposition, the only opposition is the insurance industry. They can be… claim to be concerned about costs. Well, I'm concerned about cost as well. Here's what I know. This epidemic has had a tremendous cost in our communities. It has cost lives, it has destroyed families, it has cost workplace productivity in every corner 09900038.docx 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 of this state. Let's stop this human cost. I anticipate that this Bill will change in the Senate to address the cost concerns that have been raised by industry, while not losing sight of the savings and the human costs of this epidemic. Until now, there haven't been meaningful negotiations. There's been a strategy to try and kill this legislation. I promise that we will work to address the concerns that are raised regarding the fiscal note, but we need to take action today. I hope that the opponents of the Bill will join us to work together in the Senate. And I ask you to take this meaningful step to provide insurance coverage for abuse deterrent formulation. The supporters are numerous. Please be among them. Vote 'yes'."

"Members, a verification has been requested by Representative Ives. Please vote your own switch. The question is, 'Shall House Bill 2743 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Arroyo, Ford, Sims, Thapedi. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. Excuse me, Representative McAsey."

"I would request Postponed Consideration."

"Mr. Clerk, please move this Bill to the Order of Postponed Consideration. Representative Stewart for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Please proceed, Representative."

Speaker Turner: "Thank you. And welcome to your Capitol. Representative Drury, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"I rise on a point of personal privilege, Mr. Speaker."

"Please proceed, Sir."

"I just want to let everybody know that sitting down in the gallery we have three wonderful Pages, future leaders of the State of Illinois. If they could stand up and be recognized. We have Maeve Murdock from Glencoe, we have Patrick Murdock from Wilmette, and we have Patrick Doyle from Chicago. They've commented on the spirited debate we're having and you know, I thank you for coming and… and hopefully you stay engaged in government."

"Thank you. And welcome to your Capitol. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 4025. Representative Conroy. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Conroy."

"Thank you, Speaker. House Bill 4025 is a result of over two years' worth of work from the Illinois Civics Education Task Force. This Bill requires that as a part of the existing two-year social studies requirement for high school graduation one semester must be civics. This Bill is not an unfunded mandate. I have been working with the McCormick 09900038.docx 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 Foundation to secure private dollars nee… the private dollars needed to fund this initiative. We have secured a total of $1.1 million in private funding annually over the next three years to implement this initiative because we believe, no matter how worthy the cause, that this could not be a financial burden on our state. This is a bipartisan Bill that is afforded by non-for-profit organizations and business leaders who believe that civics education is important to training our next generation of civic leaders in the State of Illinois. I would take any questions and would appreciate a 'yes' vote."

"Representative Sandack for two minutes."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Correct. The cost of this program is teacher training and the majority of the funding is on the front end. Florida recently did this as well, only the state paid for it. It cost them $500 thousand a ye… for training for teachers. There is no book required, there is no added teachers required. Eighty-three percent of our high schools already currently teach a class that would fall into this category."

"Correct. This fits into it. It's not required any additional…"

"Absolutely."

"We… we feel because this is new, this is the first time we've ever done a private-public partnership in the State of Illinois and had this funding, the… the folks that are committed to this will continue to be committed to it. As an example, the McCormick Foundation currently spends $600 thousand a year, every year, all the time on this type of training."

"Combination of things. I… I firmly believe that they will continue to support this, and obviously, all of us here would like to think that we'd be in a better financial situation. The cost will continue to go down as the teachers are trained, so it's not a… it's not a cost that needs to continue to be there."

"Representative Hays for two minutes."

"Sponsor will yield."

"You know, we spent a lot of time working on this, Representative, and this fits into the current requirement. They are not going to have to add anything to their curriculum. So, basically, most government classes that are offered by 83 percent of our high schools in the State of Illinois will cover this. So, what we're doing, is we're saying it's important that all of our students are raised to be responsible, involved, educated members of the community."

"Representative Moffitt for two minutes."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"No, it does not. Again, this fits into the two-year requirement for social studies. And Representative, I think as you know, I'm a big proponent of those other classes…"

"…as well."

"No. It does not."

"Representative, what I would say in terms of that, is really the control lies in the hands of the teacher. Because much of civics is having conversations about what's going on in your environment. Whether it's your hometown, your community… your local community, your state community, or your world community. It's understanding that you need to have an opinion, be informed, and also understanding that you have the ability to change something that you don't like."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Representative Franks for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. First of all, I want to commend the Sponsor. I think this is a very creative 09900038.docx 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 solution. I have not seen public-private partnerships that much in the state and this is one that makes incredible sense. I sit on the Governor's task force on consolidation as well as unfunded mandates. I also chaired the Consolidation Commission. Personally, I do not… one of the speakers had said this was an unfunded mandate. I don’t believe it is. I believe that the Sponsor has creatively found a way to fund the cost of this very valuable program and as a result, is not… is funded. And you know, we don’t see that often enough. And I want to commend you for that. Also I think the subject matter that's being required to be taught is incredibly important. Remember folks, where we're sitting. We are sitting in the capital of the State of Illinois, where two of our last four Governors have gone to prison. Four of our last eight Governors have gone to prison. Over… yeah, we've had multiple Congressmen in prison, multiple aldermen in the City of Chicago. Over the last 30 years there's been more than 30 aldermen that have gone to prison. We had a colleague of ours, yesterday, who was just put into prison for five months for accepting bribes. We are in danger of losing an entire generation of young people to public service because they think we're all a bunch of criminals. I'm not kidding. This is terrifying to me. We have people who don’t believe that what we do here matters and in many cases, they're right. We need to teach them what's right, this civics stuff is incredibly important, or we are going to lose the next generation and the following generation. Please vote 'yes' for this incredible Bill. And thank you, Representative, for bringing it forward." 09900038.docx 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Representative Wehrli for two minutes."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Representative, I have a letter here from both Amanda Elliot from ISBE as well as Sean Heely from the McCormick Foundation. We have worked… because this is the first time we've ever done a private-public fund… partnership for something like this in the State of Illinois, we've worked very, very hard with our attorneys to try to figure out what is the best way to implement that. What Amanda Elliot from ISBE and the McCormick foundation together support is that we keep it at 'may', and I'll explain to you why. Because many of our schools will not require the training needed because they already have the ability to teach this course or they already are teaching it. So, because of that reason, we also have schools, primarily downstate, that may need more support. So we… by putting 'shall' into the Bill, we are saying that every school must use the funding. We do not want schools to use funding if they don’t require it. We do want to be sure that we have everything possible to support those that may need a little extra support. That is why we chose to keep the Bill at 'may' instead of 'shall'."

"Again, what I would… what I think that the Body doesn’t appear to understand, is that the cost of this is at the front end in terms of teacher training. The cost will not continue to be what it is when we initially implement this program. As I said, 83 percent of the high schools in the State of Illinois are currently already offering a course that would fit into this civics requirement. Those schools are not going to need to use the private funding that we have made available. The State of Florida you needed $500 thousand to implement their training when they implemented this as a funded man… as an unfunded… they funded this mandate. We have more than secured more than what we feel we will need in order to fully operate this program."

"Representative Wehrli, please bring your remarks to a close."

"Representative Pritchard for two minutes."

"Sponsor will yield."

"The fun… the only cost to this initiative is teacher training."

"No. Absolutely not."

"There is… No. There is no additional staff necessary for this Bill."

"It does not."

"It absolutely does not."

"Correct."

"Yes, Sir."

"Well said. Thank you." 09900038.docx 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"That is something that I would definitely like to spend some time working on and if you'd like to do that together, I would appreciate your help."

"Representative Barbara Wheeler for two minutes." Wheeler, B.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield." Wheeler, B.: "Well, I don’t know whether the Sponsor remembers but I voted 'no' in committee. And I'm glad I did because it got a response from my superintendents and my high school history teachers and I was schooled. They didn’t see this as an unfunded mandate, they saw it as an opportunity. They're mandated to teach U.S. history and then they have to teach the Constitution, the U.S. Constitution, the State Constitution and right now most of them teach that important test in three-week or four-week time in U.S. History, taking away both from the Constitution and being able to apply it. And of course, it would be mandated like the one you're suggesting in a semester and making it come alive and real. And they would also be able to use the full year for U.S. 09900038.docx 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 History. So, today I will be changing my vote, Sponsor, and be voting for your Bill."

"Thank you so much."

"Representative Willis for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. As I spoke in committee, when I was in my previous life I taught at Elmhurst College and one of the courses I taught was civic responsibility for today's society. This was basically a civics course for incoming freshmen at the college. We did a lot of discussion on current events, what was going on in… society and we had businesses that also came in that stressed to the students that it was important to be involved in your community. We have more and more businesses that are not just looking for smart people to work, but they're also looking for people that are engaged in their community. This is a course that's going to help that at a high school level. We need to have our young people more engaged, to know what's going on, to be prepared to go out into the workforce, to go out into the world to be productive members of society. I commend the Sponsor for all the hard work she's done on this Bill. She certainly has looked at it at a wonderful way of helping to get the funding to start it. The reality of it is, as she's mentioned many, many times, there's not going to be a big need for funding. This course is going to be a very fluid course. It's going to change as current events hit the soci… us in our daily lives. This course, for a textbook, can be a newspaper. That's what we're looking at, to see what's going on, to be engaged in our community. So, I strongly urge an 'aye' vote. It's good for our students. It's good for our 09900038.docx 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 schools. It's not going to take any extra time because we have these four semesters already there. We're just saying take one semester and put it on there. So, thank you very much. And again, I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Sullivan for two minutes."

"Representative Sandack for two minutes."

"No. We… we tal… when I talked to Aman… I talked to Amanda because that's who we needed to work with with this, ISBE. And again, they were… their serious concern is that if we… if we put 'shall' we'll have people… we'll have every school required to use funding that they may not need."

"Well, I'm…"

"Well, I'm… I'm not sure what it is about my explanation that you don't understand. So, we have, as I said, 82 percent of our high schools have already cover this and already teach this. So, they don’t need… they aren't necessarily going to need any training at all."

"So… so, are you saying you want them to take the civics money and use it for something else?"

"Well, what I would tell you is that McCormick Foundation commits $600 thousand a year all the time and has been doing so for many, many years. McCormick Foundation will remain committed to this at whatever level they need to be. This is, you know… I mean, as I said, Ron, this is brand new to our state. Okay? This is incredibly important for our… our students to rate. We need them to be future leaders of our state and in order to do that I understood and respected the fact that we can't afford to mandate our state to pay for anything more. That is why we have the private funding. This is not an unfunded mandate."

"Representative Reis for two minutes."

"Motion has been made that we move the previous question. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the previous question is put. Representative Conroy to close."

"Thank you, Speaker. I really can't say it enough. This is not an unfunded mandate. And again, when it came to the main sell, I was perfectly willing to change the language, but I was advised by our… our attorneys as well as Amanda Elliot from ISBE and the McCormick Foundation. We do not want schools who do not need money to be trained to use this. We would prefer to put that money where it's needed and primarily that need is going to be downstate. I… I ask you to support the future leaders of our state and I would like to thank the McCormick Foundation and so many countless people, including Boeing, for stepping up and helping to fund this… this important initiative. And I ask for an 'aye' vote." 09900038.docx 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 4025 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members, please record yourself. Representative Gordon-Booth, Sullivan. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 81 voting 'yes', 29 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 4025, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record show that from this time forward Representative DeLuca will be excused."

Speaker Turner: "Thank you, Representative. Representative Anthony, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Please proceed, Sir."

Speaker Turner: "Thank you and welcome to your Capitol. Representative Reaves-Harris, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed, Representative."

"I'd like the House to welcome one of my younger constituents, Patrick Doyle. Patrick, could you step up… stand up. Please show him the… the… you know… a rounding applause for being such a young person involved in the civic 09900038.docx 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 process. Patrick, thank you for coming. Hopefully, you're enjoying the process."

"Thank you, Representative. Welcome to your Capitol. House Bill 3765, Representative Scherer. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"The Sponsor moves to withdraw these notes."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill for a third time."

"Representative Scherer."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Bill provides that the state will create the Springfield High Speed Rail Oversight Act. I amended this Bill to fully comply with all the concerns that were raised. Open for questions and appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Sullivan for two minutes."

"Representative Sandack for two minutes."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Absolutely."

"So, the way that the Bill was written there were some concerns about the makeup of the commission that the group reports to. So now, the commission is made up very bipartisanly, 50-50 with the Governor having two selections and then the rest is divided evenly."

"I'm not aware of any opponents at all."

"Thank you."

"Representative Butler for two minutes."

"The Sponsor will yield." 09900038.docx 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"There… there are no opponents."

"No position."

"On… on my computer screen it says no position."

"Yes. I have at great length."

Speaker Turner: "You're requesting a verification, Representative?"

"Oh."

"It's about as quiet as it's going to get, Representative."

Speaker Turner: "Representative, I… your two minutes have expired."

"Thank you."

"Representative David Harris for two minutes." Harris, D.: "Mr. Speaker, I do want to… have questions of the Bill. But before I do that, before you start my two minutes, I have an inquiry of the Chair."

"Please proceed, Representative." Harris, D.: "I'd like to find out how many votes this Bill takes to pass. As I read the Bill, it preempts Home Rule. And I'd like a ruling from the Chair."

"We'll get that information to you. You can proceed…" Harris, D.: "Thank you."

"…with the debate." Harris, D.: "And to the Bill… or, question of the Sponsor, if I may?"

"The Sponsor will yield." Harris, D.: "Representative, you really have done a commendable job of working to try to get a more agreeable composition to the committee. But I… I will ask you the same question here that I asked in committee. Why does this Bill, as I read it, Section 25, dealing with Home Rule, why do you need the power to preempt Home Rule with this commission?"

"We filed a fiscal note on… on this. And the point of the Bill is that we have an oversight commission looking at the diversity of the makeup of the people who are working on the job. So, the… the Home Rule, as I understand it, isn’t… isn’t coming into play because we're not talking about taking 09900038.docx 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 homes, none of those kinds of issues that I discussed with the mayor yesterday. This is… is simply about hiring I… a diverse population." Harris, D.: "I su… I will accept the answer, certainly. I will tell you, personally, and to the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, those of you who are concerned about Home Rule, those of you who are concerned about the usurpation of Home Rule by this General Assembly should be concerned. I don’t disagree at all with the Sponsor's intent to hire a… a diverse workforce on this project. But I have a real concern, as I do with any Bill which preempts Home Rule, at least as I read it. I have a real concern with any Bill that preempts Home Rule and I think that should give us pause even… no matter how much we support the underlying intent of the Bill, we are taking away Home Rule through passage of this Bill. So, I would urge a 'no' vote on that basis alone."

Speaker Turner: "Representative Harris, the answer to your question is 60 votes to pass this Bill." Harris, D.: "Mr. Speaker, if I may, please explain to me how?"

"Representative, we will have a parliamentarian come and explain it to you." Harris, D.: "I would…"

"Representative Riley…" Harris, D.: "…I would appreciate that greatly."

"…for two minutes. Representative Riley for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. This is a very important project. Many of us deal with high-speed rail in our districts. This high-speed rail issue is a very important 09900038.docx 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 one. And not only will it bring economic development to all of our areas, but it's a very important technology that, frankly, we as a country need to get more involved in. This is a very, very important project down here for a lot of different reasons. It has been found out through some of the… the advocacy groups that there's some historic artifacts that were found around where this project is… is going to go, the Carpenter Street underpass area. No one wants to, certainly, stop this project. It's extremely important. But I think that we have to… we have to understand that there are certain safeguards that are trying to be met with regard to a minority hiring. That's just all that the Sponsor wants to do, nothing more, nothing less. I support her Bill. I support, overwhelmingly, all of us getting involved and advancing high-speed rail. And so, I would hope that you would all join us with 'aye' votes for this Bill."

"Representative Chad Hays for two minutes."

"Representative Butler for two minutes."

"Representative Scherer to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the interest of the people of my district, that we're all sitting in right this moment, I would request an 'aye' vote for this very important Bill. Thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 3765 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 68 voting 'yes', 42 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3765, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Sommer, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

Speaker Turner: "The Journal will reflect your request, Representative. Thank you. Leader Currie, for what reason do you seek recognition? Leader Currie." 09900038.docx 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record show that Representative Acevedo is excused for the rest of the day."

"Thank you, Representative. House Bill 3398, Representative Beiser. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Beiser."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a… this is a issue brought forward by the Illinois Health Care Association. Back in 2010, we passed long term care reform legislation. One of the provisions in that was that there would be RN staffing requirements for nursing homes. When the final rules were adopted, there was not a waiver provision in those final rules. This would add a waiver provision at the discretion of the director of Public Health because rural nursing homes are having problems in hiring RNs and this would help that out. It also says that the waivers will be renewed… reviewed, excuse me, quarterly and they can be revoked if they are not adhering to the requirements of… of this Bill."

"Representative Sandack for two minutes."

"Sponsor will yield."

"This is an agreed Bill at this point."

"Yes." 09900038.docx 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Representative Phelps for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Ron, I did the Amendment yesterday and then gave it to Representative Beiser. This is an agreed Bill and I appreciate everybody's helping on it."

"Representative Beiser to close."

"I would simply ask for your 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 3398 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 109 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3398, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3382, Representative Beiser. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Beiser."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. This simply extends the sunset date for the Illinois Motor Vehicle Theft Prevention Act until January 1 of 2020."

"Representative Sandack for two minutes."

"Yes. I guess the simple answer…"

"Yeah. Just to… so it's in place 'cause of the… the funding mechanisms in place from the insurance policy was to do it to… so it's on the books."

"Representative Beiser to close."

"Yeah. This is an initiative of the Secretary of State. And I'd appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 3382 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 107 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3382, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Harris, for what reason do you seek recognition?" Harris, D.: "Point of personal privilege, Mr. Speaker."

"Please proceed, Representative." Harris, D.: "Mr. Speaker, I just want to thank you. The parliamentarian did come down and explain to me on the Lady's Bill from Springfield about Home Rule. I have now been properly schooled and I'll keep that in the future. Thank you."

"Thank you, Representative. House Bill 1422, Representative Rita. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Rita."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 1422 is some cleanup language from the Sunset Act that we passed last year. Ask for its adoption."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 1422. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read that Bill for a third time."

"Representative Rita."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to move House Bill 1422. It's some cleanup language from the Sunset Act that we passed last year. It does a number of different things to clean up the Act. And happy to answer any questions."

"Representative Sandack for two minutes."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Yes. This was… this… I think we had two different companions going. It's the same Bill. This was the one that had the movement forward."

"Representative Rita to close."

"Ask for a favorable vote."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1422 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Will Davis, Cabello, Wheeler. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 69 voting 'yes', 38 voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present', House Bill 1422, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4… 4128, Representative Bourne. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Bourne."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 4128 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Ammons, Brady. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 109 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 4128, having received the Constitutional Majority, 09900038.docx 80  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2554, Representative Yingling. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read that Bill for a third time."

"Representative Yingling."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a cleanup Bill. It just clarifies that when you're contesting your property tax assessments that the date is determined by the postmarked date, sent by U.S. Mail, the tracking date sent by a delivery company, or the date it's received electronically. I'm happy to answer any questions."

"Seeing no debate…"

"Hold…"

"…the question is, 'Shall House Bill 2554 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 108 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2554, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2690, Representative Breen. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." 09900038.docx 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Representative Breen."

"Representative Thapedi for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Peter, I know that you worked very hard on this. Could you clarify the issue that you resolved with the Illinois State Medical Society? And more specifically, Dr. Terry Mason from Chicago and Cook County, who came in and testified regarding the issues and the aspects in the Bill."

"And… and again, for the purposes of the potential rules that will be promulgated and will become the JCAR, and we're actually looking at this… at the rules. I want to make sure that we're clear about the aspects of the rules, when they're promulgated, about the concerns of the Illinois State Medical Society was that they want to have the ability to be able to trace any foreign bacteria, any organisms in the event of an outbreak. Is that your understanding as well?"

"And again, that would be to address the issues that if there's ever an incident of an outbreak and the physicians, the Illinois State Medical Society, the pertinent Departments of Public Health will be armed with the necessary arrows in their quiver, if you will, to be able to ascertain the cause of that outbreak, correct?"

"Thank you." 09900038.docx 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Representative Breen to close."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 2690 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Andrade. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 109 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2690, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3932, Leader Currie. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. This merely provides more information accountability to the public about the practices of private university police departments. I know of no opposition. I'd be grateful for you 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 3932 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 108 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3932, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 229, Representative Franks. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In 2013, by a vote of 108-6, we passed Senate Bill 494, which granted the DuPage County Board the authority to dissolve units of local government to which the county board chair appoints more than half the membership, incl… excluding fire protection districts. This has been an incredible success in DuPage and I want to thank my colleagues in DuPage in showing us the way. House Bill…"

"Thank you, Members. Let's please bring the noise level down. Representative Franks."

"House Bill 229 would give the McHenry County and Lake County Boards the same authority. This Bill comes out of the Consolidation Commission and it's supported by the Civic Federation and CMAP. This is the exact same language that we passed three years ago. This is not a top down, one size fits all mandate, but instead it puts the power in the hands of our constituents and our county government. I want to thank my cosponsors: Representatives McSweeney, Wheeler, Sente, Yingling, and Sullivan and others who represent large portions of both McHenry and… and Lake Counties. And we all agree, that given the property tax burdens in our counties, taxpayers deserve county level government with the power to make these changes. Again, this does not proactively eliminate any government bodies. We talk about… a lot about local control in this Body and I respectfully ask for your vote to enhance the power of local taxpayers in both McHenry and Lake Counties."

"With 49 Members seeking recognition on your Bill, we will be moving to a one…" 09900038.docx 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Only 49?"

"…one minute time."

"I was hoping for more."

"First up, Representative Cassidy."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Really?"

"You can do better than that. Seriously."

"Representative, what impact, if any, would your Bill have on any employees covered by collective bargaining units in these districts?"

"I'm glad you asked that question. This is the exact same language that we had passed three years ago with Senate Bill 494. And there's existing law right now that would say that if there’s consolidation with the governments that those that are subject to collective bargaining that they would be protected under their collective bargaining agreement. So, nothing in here would change that."

"So your intention is to not have a negative impact on employees covered by collective bargaining agreements?"

"That's exactly correct."

"I appreciate that. In addition, I've… I've gotten some questions about whether or not this would affect the conservation district in McHenry, which has some concerns about an… in effect this would have. They… they already have the capacity there to do this."

"Yeah. Actually, one of the first Bills I passed when I came into the General Assembly was to allow the voters, if they wish to via referendum, to have this Body elected rather 09900038.docx 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 than appointed. Presently, they are appointed by the county board. So, the county board presently can do that if they wanted to right now. So, this is sort of a belt and suspenders with them, but they're already subject to that under the… under the county."

"Then they see this process as more harmful? I… I don’t understand their… their objection, but apparently, they like the way they can dissolve now.”

“Right.”

“They don’t like this way of being dissolved.”

“Yeah.”

“I tend to support con… consolidation. I just don’t quite understand the distinction between these two processes."

"I… I don’t understand their… their objection either. I mean, the people who have objected to this are those that are, you know, people who don’t… who are worried about their feasance, quite frankly. And this does not mandate anything. It just empowers the local governments to consolidate if they choose and it's a really rigorous process to do so. And I… I could go through that process if you'd like, but I'm not sure we have the time."

"I'm pretty sure we don’t want to."

"But it's… but it's very rigorous."

"Thank you. I appreciate your clarity on the impact on collective bargaining agreements."

"Thank you."

"Representative Sandack for two minutes."

"The Sponsor will yield." 09900038.docx 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"This is…"

"…this is just 6."

"And it just added three words from Senate Bill 494. We added 'Lake and McHenry'."

"Correct. And you guys have done such a terrific job in DuPage on this."

"Yeah. I want to give them… my original Bill had it for the entire state. We had some pushback on that, so I wanted… and they came to me, Lake County had as well. They want the same powers that… that DuPage has because you guys have done it so successfully."

"Representative Tryon."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Right."

"Well, there actually is a referendum process."

"Right, but there is a ref… there is a… there are procedural protections."

"It is."

"Oftentimes, the county board is a hundred percent wrong."

"Oftentimes, the county board wants to protect certain aspects. And as you know, there's a lot of folks…"

"…who like to have bigger government."

"And I prefer… I think…"

"…our default position ought to be less government…"

"…not more."

"They are empowered."

"And it's working in DuPage."

"McHenry County has the largest county board in…"

"…our area. They have 24 members…"

"If you want larger government, you should vote 'no'…"

"…Mr.… Mr. Tryon."

"You're the only one…"

"…who represents Lake and McHenry who said it doesn’t want it."

"Excuse me, Representatives."

"Excuse me."

"Excuse me, Representative."

"Representative Mayfield for two minutes."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative, I'm part of Lake County. This is not an initiative of the Lake County Board. They gave us their priorities. This is not on their priority list. We've had 09900038.docx 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 conference calls and not once has this Bill come up as a priority or even something that they were asking the Representatives to support. But yet, you're stating that Lake County wanted it. Were you approached by maybe a Representative or two in Lake County? Because I can assure you that several board members are opposed to this Bill."

"I would… I actually met with the county board chair, who asked to include Lake County on this."

"Okay. Well, those con… that was a conversation you may have had with him. He did not have it with his members. And as Representative Tryon said, there was no referendum passed. There were no discussions within the county board."

"Well, they don't have to use it then."

"This is a bad Bill…"

"They don’t have to use it then."

"…and the fact that you're wanting to do it through a backdoor referendum…”

“No, they aren’t.”

“…without transparency."

"No. That isn’t true."

"This is wrong."

"I'll be happy to tell you…"

"It is wrong and I am…"

"…how it works."

"…definitely urging a 'no' vote on this Bill. I don’t think this is the right way to do it. I don’t think that we should…"

"Ma'am, you voted for the exact same Bill three years ago." 09900038.docx 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"For DuPage…"

"Under this Bill…"

"…not for Lake County. DuPage wanted the Bill."

"…the way you said…"

"…Lake County does not want this Bill."

"You're… you're misrepresenting this Bill completely. Under this Bill, the county would have to publish on their website and in the local newspapers details regarding the purpose and cost savings that this solution would bring about. And they'd also have to have an audit and then the county board would have to p… pass an ordinance proposing the dissolution and designating the county…"

"It also states that they can do…"

"…department that will assume the powers."

"…this through a backdoor referendum."

"No. It's not. That's not…"

"I'm looking at it. It says…"

"Ma'am, you… you need…"

"…backdoor."

"…to read the Bill."

"It's very clear."

"That's not what it does."

"It's very clear that it allows for a backdoor nontransparent…"

"That's not true."

"…referendum and we should not be passing…"

"That just isn’t true."

"…Bills along this line."

"That just isn't true." 09900038.docx 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"I think this does a disservice…"

"Please read the Bill."

"…to the… to the voters. I am reading the Bill and I think that what you are proposing here is wrong. I am urging everyone in this chamber to vote 'no' on this Bill. We are for transparency. We're not for doing things through backdoor referendums. That's the absolute worst thing you can do to a taxpayer. Thank you."

"Representative Moffitt for two minutes."

"Sponsor will yield."

"It's the…"

"…exact same Bill we had in 494."

"Yes. The… who's not ex… we are excluding fire protection districts, yes. Except for paper districts. They were the only ones who were included. But the exclu… we exclude fire protection districts."

"Oh, sure. Absolutely."

"Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. They're not included."

"They're exempted."

"Well, the fire protection districts have been excluded."

"I believe… I believe it's in the Bill. Your… your concerns have been addressed."

"And if there's any question on response time, it's in there."

"Representative Phelps for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"Hey, Jack, I… you… you're like a suitemate to me. I would have come over and talked to you, but I just got some calls here recently on this. I know a few years ago you did this Bill, I believe, similar and it covered one county, correct? 09900038.docx 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 So, in… in your intent, is there any employee protection language in this Bill?"

"No. We had that question by Representative Cassidy."

"And I'm referencing that 'cause I was outside…"

"Right. There…"

"…and I didn’t hear it."

"…there already is existing law that has the employee protection, also for legislative intent. If there… if there was going to be consolidation, it's are int… to be very clear…"

"Yeah."

"…that the collective bargaining would be protected in those… if those employees are moved over to a new or a consolidated, they would be… they would be subject to that collective bargaining."

"And… and Jack, I never speak on your Bills, but can you tell me in the Bill where that language is at?"

"There isn't any. There's already existing law that has that."

"Is that 494 or what was…"

"No. It's not in 494; 494 didn’t have that. Appar… there's another law that has that already. You… to… the only way to change that is to affirmatively go change that other law. We're not changing anything to when it deals with that. The collective bargaining will be protected."

"Can we try to maybe put some of that employee protection language in the Senate version, maybe?"

"It's not necessary. It's already existing law." 09900038.docx 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Okay. So, Jack, that's what I'm saying. That's not what we're being told and that's why I just want to clarify."

"That's why… I checked it out…"

"On the intent."

"Yeah. I… that's… and I met with our lawyers yesterday who assured me that it's not necessary in this Bill because it's already existing law."

"So… so, should we maybe do some intent here today?"

"That… that's exactly what we're doing. That's… I had… I rep… I answered Representative Cassidy's and…"

"And I was outside. So, I apologize."

"I did. And we… that was the first question. We did put it on for intent."

"Okay. Thank you."

"Thank you."

"Representative Hays. Two minutes."

"Representative Sullivan for two minutes."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Because of Members' inability to keep the debate under the two-minute… two-minute requirement, we're moving to strict enforcement of the two-minute… two-minute requirement for debate. And we'll be moving on to the next speaker. Representative Breen for two minutes."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Oh yeah."

"No, not at all. All we're trying to do is to empower the counties and there's nothing here that mandates anything."

"No. More than 50 percent."

"Correct."

"Correct." 09900038.docx 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"It's… it's extremely onerous."

"Plus, there's other procedural safeguards and if people disagree, they can put it to a vote."

"Tha… thank you. And I… can I answer one other thing? Because one of the questions I was getting was on the employee stuff. I had done that in a prior Amendment, but I was told by legal counsel that it wasn’t necessary because we already have those procedural safeguards for the employees who would… who would be subject to collective bargaining. So, that's why we didn’t need to do it again. It was already there and it was… that's why we went to Amendment #6, but just so it wasn’t redundant. If that answers that question."

"Representative Martwick for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"So, Jack, we've heard much about this backdoor, front door referendum. I don't want to belabor it, but can you just tell us why you chose a backdoor referendum as opposed to a front door?"

"Well, it… it's… What it does, first of all, it's just… Let me explain the whole situation 'cause I'm not sure people 09900038.docx 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 get it. Right now, Mr… Mr. Breen talked about some of the procedural safeguards we had to do…"

"Right."

"…for a county to do that. Now, during this pop… during this period, let's assume that the county wants to go forward and there's plenty of opportunities for them not to. But let's assume they do want to go forward, there's an opportunity for residents then to initiate a backdoor referendum in opposition of the plan. So, that's what it is. I mean, one of the options we thought about was also to have two set… two ways to do a…"

"Right. But they want… they have to… hold on. They have to… what you're saying is is that they have to do a referendum in opposition. So… so, you're vesting the authority to dissolve on… without any opposition, on the backdoor referendum. You are vesting the authority to dissolve strictly in the hands of the county board then, correct?"

"Well, they're… Only in the areas where they've appointed more than 50 percent. It's not for everything. It's just where they've appointed 50 percent of board members. That's it. It's not for anything else except where they've already appointed these places, these folks."

"Why wouldn’t you just… Why wouldn’t you make this a front door referendum? Why wouldn’t you give that power to the voters?"

"That was an option as well. And perhaps we… and… if we do it statewide, that's something I would certainly consider. I wanted to… I really thought of two options. One, like DuPage is doing, to give the exact… 'cause it's working and beli… 09900038.docx 101  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 it's working very well. The second option, is to also do a front door referendum to empower the citizens as well. But we know this model works and that's why we used it as, really a lab, to see if it worked and it's been working very well."

"Thank you. To the Bill. You know, I… I commend the Representative. I'm… I'm…"

"Representative Sente."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I stand in strong support of this les… legislation and I want to echo, but not repeat, the statements made by Representative Sullivan. I'm proud to live in Lake County where our county is a very transparent form of government. A county where the chairman embraces this legislation and I've personally spoken to him about this exact Bill. We saw this model work effectively in DuPage. And I would like to bring this model to Lake County, frankly, as well as all counties in this state. But this legislation is a start. Thank you."

"Representative Conroy for two minutes."

"Thank you, Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"I carried 494 in the House and am a huge proponent of government consolidation. I think what the Representative's Bill does, it… it is exactly what we are currently doing in DuPage County, which does work. I think the important thing to understand is this does not require any con… any of… it does not require the board to consolidate any government. It simply gives them the ability to do so. I think that we need to continue this effort and I… I commend the Sponsor for bringing this to his area. And again, please understand, this 09900038.docx 102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 simply gives them the ability to do this, it does not require that it be done. So, they can look at what works for their counties and they can proceed in that fashion. I would urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Barb Wheeler for two minutes." Wheeler, B.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield." Wheeler, B.: "Representative, did you say the county board gets it wrong 100 percent of the time?"

"No. No. I didn’t say that." Wheeler, B.: "You said that, right?"

"No. I said sometimes they can be a hundred percent wrong." Wheeler, B.: "I was going to say, it's a good thing because this is contingent on the county board getting it right."

"Exactly." Wheeler, B.: "Having said that, I have been to how many forums? You've all have been to the same and we talk about the Illinois government having almost 7 thousand boards and commissions and it's too big and it's too expensive. And then we walk off stage being very proud of ourselves that we just told the people were have a very big and expensive government. I believe this Bill does something to address that problem and I urge an 'aye' vote. And I also want to re… say the McHenry County Board gets it right most of the time."

"Representative Manley for two minutes."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield." 09900038.docx 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"So, you and I talked and we briefly discussed that Amendment for the front door referendum."

"Right."

"And I think a lot of the problem here today is we fee… I feel, personally, we should give the voters a chance to decide. You were really happy about that front door referendum option, right?"

"Yeah."

"And then, I found out later that you… you weren't going to use it and the Amendment wasn't… can you explain why?"

"I think we have to do that. I wanted to do that for the whole state and I didn’t want to… I didn’t want to have different laws for different counties. And right now, DuPage has their existing and it wouldn’t be fair to take out the… the rug from under them by changing that. So, that's why when we expand it to Lake and McHenry we can do it along those lines. In the future, I'd like… I know you and I are going to talk about working on one together. Well, I think we should do one statewide then we can have that. But I didn’t think it was fair to DuPage when they've been the laboratory for this, they've worked on this, they've taken the lumps on this, and they've made it work, to then go ahead and change it completely on them."

"All right. I just think… and we were in Will County thinking about things like this and the county executive was adamant about going to the voters first. He didn’t want to… he didn’t like the backdoor referendum because it's something that was done and then the voters would have to choose to reinstate it. So, I want to encourage going to the voters. 09900038.docx 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 They know… you know, they're affected by this. So, I think what we should do is really consider that and… and definitely I am with you on working on that going forward. Thank you."

"Representative Yingling for two minutes."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"All right. Jack, just to be clear. This applies to McHenry and Lake County, right?"

"And… and DuPage."

"And DuPage. So, we have three counties in the state that this is going to apply to. And we know that DuPage County has been incredibly successful with the consolidation abilities we have given them as a Legislature, correct?"

"Correct."

"Okay. I just want to be… To the Bill. I just want to be clear with the chamber. I am a Lake County Legislator and I have heard from numerous people in Lake County, including county board members and the Lake County Board President asking us to do this. Lake County is in favor of this. My constituents are in favor of this. The constituency of Lake County are in favor of this. There is absolutely no reason why this should not pass. We know there's way too much government in this state and this a… a good approach to doing this and we have a track record with DuPage County. I would strongly encourage an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Representative Tryon, your name was used in debate. Two minutes."

"Representative Ford for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to yield my time to Representative Martwick."

"Representative Martwick for two minutes."

"To the Bill. You know, I… I want to echo the sentiments of Representative Tryon. You know, we… we have many measures in this House where we… we forward them under the guise of good government. But you know, we chose a system of government here in our country that… that we… we send our… our young men and women overseas to die for and it's called democracy. The gift of democracy is that we get to change the system whenever we want to. The price is that you have to live with your bad decisions. If we're going to make changes to our government, 09900038.docx 106  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 those changes should be made by the people who are affected by those changes. We should not be taking power away from the voters and putting it into the hands of a few elected officials. That is antidemocratic. We need to… this should be a front door referendum, the voters should have their say. It's really quitely… quite that simple, folks. This is another attempt for us to say that big brother knows better than the people who are affected by it. Vote against this measure. Vote 'no'. Do it the right way, do it with a front door referendum."

"Representative Demmer for two minutes."

"Representative Franks to close."

"Wow. Thank you very much. I appreciate the spirited debate. I want to make a couple things pretty clear. This is already the law. It passed overwhelmingly, unanimously in the Senate, now 108 of us here voted for it. This doesn’t change anything except add two counties. There was a question on the labor issues. That has… is not an issue. I've met with the lawyers. There's no problem whatsoever and if there is, we'll fix it in the Senate. I pr… you have my… you have my word on that. But I'll show you where it is in the law where we have it protected. Now, there's been some statements that just weren’t accurate that were made on this… on the floor today by a few folks who were trying to argue against it. They said that you had 10 days to get 4 thousand signatures. Well, the language says you have 30 days and you need 200 signatures. Not very difficult if you want to put it on the referendum. This Bill has procedural safeguards after procedural safeguards. And it's a very onerous, slow process. I guess… and we know it works. That's the most important part. We know it works. Now, we talk about the problems we have in this state and our… and the unfunded mandates and the billions of dollars that we're not paying in bills and the incredible property tax burden that we have in the collar counties and around the state. And the fact that we have set almost 7 thousand units of local government. In… instead of having a 09900038.docx 108  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 default position on we need more, we need to spend more, we need to tax more, why don’t we at least allow those that are making the most local decisions the ability, if they so choose, after all these onerous safeguards have been done, to try and consolidate. If we don’t consolidate, if we don’t stop spending beyond our means, Illinois will never reach its potential. We are losing citizens. We cannot continue on the path that we have. We have to, at least, at least, at least, empower the locals, if they so choose, to reduce the scope and the cost of government. Because what we found when I chaired the Consolidation Commission is that that's very easy to create government, but it's almost impossible, almost impossible to get rid of it, even when you don’t want it. This works; it's been going for years. Our citizens deserve the same as in DuPage. If you really care about consolidation and reducing government, the only responsible vote is 'aye'. And I'd ask for your support."

"Before we go to the vote, Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record show that Representative Evans is excused for the rest of the day."

"Thank you, Representative. The question is, 'Shall House Bill 229 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representatives, please record yourself. Representative Burke, Drury, Fine, Moeller, Rita, Sims, Sommer. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 61 voting 'yes', 40 voting 'no', and 4 voting 'present', House Bill 229, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared 09900038.docx 109  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 passed. Representative Stewart, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Please proceed, Sir."

Speaker Turner: "Thank you and welcome to your Capitol. Representative Sandack, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Representative, Representative, we have a ton of Bills to get through…"

"…and we're on a Third Reading deadline and… and Members, frankly, are not respecting the two-minute debate time. I've asked Members numerous times to keep it under two- minutes and they go over and they don’t respect me banging this gavel up here. So, we're going to a strict two minute… two-minute time limit going forward."

"And your mic will be cut off after two minutes and we'll be moving on…"

"…to the next Member." 09900038.docx 110  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Thank you."

"Not true, Representative. That's just not true. Representative Martwick had his mic cut off right after Representative Sullivan had his mic cut off. There is no favoritism being played at all. We're…"

"…going to continue down the Bills on the Order of Third Reading."

"Thank you very much, Representative."

"Next up we have House Bill 3620, Representative Soto. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Soto."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 3620 will require court interpreter services in all civil matters based on judicial circuit's Language Access Plan that is appropriate for… for the demand and the resources specific to particular circuits. What this Bill does… this means each judicial circuit will only have to provide court interpreter services based on their demographic need and financial resources. And I ask for an 'aye' vote, please."

"Representative Sandack for two minutes." 09900038.docx 111  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Sponsor will yield."

“Yes.”

"Correct."

"Based on their plan."

"Un… under the Supreme Court's policy."

"That is correct."

"Thank you."

"Representative Soto to close."

"I urge an 'aye' vote and thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 3620 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 101 voting 'yes', 6 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3620, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House 09900038.docx 112  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 Bill 3152, Representative Cabello. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Cabello."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 3152 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 108 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3152, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3841, Representative Sims. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Sims."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 3841 allows for an update on background checks for members of nursing homes. We've worked to address the concerns raised by some of the interested parties and we know we're going to continue to work on this Bill in the Senate, but we're… we're moving the process along and we've 09900038.docx 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 addressed some of the current concerns coming from law enforcement to address individuals who are… who are older in nature to make sure we are identifying individuals who might be a threat to public safety. I as… answer any questions. I ask for its favorable passage."

"Representative Sandack for two minutes."

"Sponsor will yield."

"I don’t know of any opposition. The Amendment… Amendment 2 was supposed to address all opp… all opposition."

"We… we want to… we want to…"

"Ron, we want to do a little bit of tweaking to make sure that we are… we drill down to specifically identify individuals who might be a threat to public safety."

"So, make sure we're identifying the right people."

"That's correct."

"Representative Sims to close."

"I ask for a favorable passage." 09900038.docx 114  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 3841 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members, please record yourself. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 71… 74 voting 'yes', 31 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3841, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 940, Representative Lang. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. I explained this yesterday when we added the Amendment. This is the Bill that would allow the Conservation Police to have a statewide raffle without having to file… get a permit in 102 different counties and pay 102 different fees. That's all it does. It's limited to this law enforcement group. And I'd ask your support."

"Representative David Harris for two minutes." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A question of the Sponsor, please?"

"Sponsor will yield." Harris, D.: "Representative, help me understand, what is a statewide raffle game?"

"Well, just like any other raffle, the… they want to sell tickets to a raffle and give prizes. But under the law of Illinois, to… any time you do a raffle in any county you have to get a special permit and a special license and pay a fee 09900038.docx 115  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 in each county. And so, what this Bill would do, it'd say they only need to pay one… get one permit in one county." Harris, D.: "And this is limited to law enforcement organizations?"

"That's correct, Sir." Harris, D.: "Thank you."

"Representative Lang to close."

"Please vote 'aye'."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 940 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 97 voting 'yes', 11 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 940, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 3121, Representative Demmer. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Demmer."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 3121. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read that Bill for a third time."

"Representative Demmer."

"Representative Mautino for two minutes."

"You handled that really well. Actually, on the previous Bill, 940, I intended to vote 'yes'.

"Thank you…"

"Record so… should so reflect."

"…Representative. The Journal will reflect your request. Representative David Harris for two minutes." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I do know that it's two minutes. A question of the Sponsor."

"The Sponsor will yield." Harris, D.: "Representative, I understand that this is an agreed Amendment between the… the parties… the interested parties, the Illinois Retail Merchants and… and the Department of Revenue. We couldn’t get to this Bill in time or the… the Amendment in time to hear it in committee, so that's why it's on the floor. So, I applaud you for that. I do have a question. There was some organization that came up near the end of the committee meeting saying they had a concern about the Bill. Did they contact you?" 09900038.docx 117  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Representative Currie."

"Please let the record show that Representative Soto is excused for the remainder of the day."

"Thank you, Representative. Representative Demmer to close."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 3121 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Manley, Yingling, Nekritz. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 107 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3121, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Leader Lang in the Chair."

"You thought he was tough on you. The Chair recognizes Mr. Phelps." 09900038.docx 118  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Purpose of an announcement, Mr. Speaker."

"Proceed."

"I know it may be a long day with, the deadline, so I myself, Representative McSweeney, Representative Costello bought fish, Carter's Fish, for all of us. Up in 402, but give us about 20 minutes. It's coming."

"I don’t like fish. What do you have for me? Someone suggested ham, good choice. House Bill 3231, Mr. Burke. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Burke." Burke, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Please know that House Bill 3231 does not in any way change the elements of animal cruelty. Animal cruelty remains a misdemeanor and a judge can give supervision. This Bill, quite simply, states that if the offense of animal cruelty is committed in the presence of a minor, the judge shall impose a $250 fine and will order community service if available in that county. Be happy to answer any questions."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Reis. Please take the record. On this question, there are 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4013, Representative Feigenholtz. Out of the record. House Bill 2781, Mr. Fortner. Please read the Bill." 09900038.docx 119  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Mr. Fortner."

"Mr. Pritchard."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Wallace for two minutes."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"I just have two quick questions about the Bill. The first being, is… this is a pilot program, just in your area?"

"Okay. And then, if this were to become a statewide program, and I know I'm asking you to have a crystal ball, but I'm wondering how do low-income families pay for Internet access. We do have a digital divide. So, how are these e- learning systems and curriculums delivered in districts such as that?"

"Okay. Thank you very much."

"Mr. Andersson for two minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Willis for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Is it corr… is it correct that most teachers already have subplans in place, so transferring something to an e- device would not be that difficult, correct?" 09900038.docx 122  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"And isn't, in fact, that one of the great things about this is that while having an e-learning day they would not have to add an additional day to count for their days of attendance at the end of the year, correct?"

"And the final question on this. Oh, actually, I'll probably have two. How many days would a district be allowed to convert from a snow day that they'd have to make up at the end of the year to an e-learning day?"

"It's between two and five is what I…"

"…remember."

"Right. And… and then, to the Bill. What we've dealt with right now is there are some districts in my own area that have had to add on up to three to four days at the end of the school year, which goes into a new week. That oftentimes im… 09900038.docx 123  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 impacts vacation plans that families have put into place, teachers have put into place. And so I urge an 'aye' vote in this. Thank you very much."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you. Could you please let the record show that Representative Reaves-Harris is excused for the remainder of the day."

"Thank you, Representative. Representative Ammons."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just one question for the Sponsor. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"The pilot program, who pays for the software of that? Are they donating that to your school district?"

"Okay. So, in essence really, we're going to pass an unfunded mandate on this particular process as well. That's basically what we're doing with this pilot…"

"…program."

"So, those who…" 09900038.docx 124  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

“…don't then don’t benefit from this even if we pass it as a State Law. Why isn't this at a school board level then?"

"Thank you so much."

"Thank you so much."

"Mr. Bennett for two minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Fortner to close."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Burke, Crespo, Flowers, Lilly. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 104 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3925, Representative Golar. Please read the Bill. Excuse me. I read the number wrong, Mr. Clerk. It's House Bill 2925, Representative Golar."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Golar."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 2925 is an initiative of the podiatry organization. This is a Bill that actually talks about the educational requirements for podiatrist physicians, completion of their 09900038.docx 126  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 postgraduate training, completion of their structural and practical written exam that is required. It also will give them a temporary license, may be granted for them to practice, provided that the applicant can demonstrate during this time period. Also, it allows the temporary license shall be valid for the duration of the training program provided the applicant continues in the improved program and is in good standing. There was some issues in regards to the definition of a podiatrist physician in regards to the diagnosis. It was actually stated by the Department of Financial and Professional Regulations that the definition given was vague and it was actually not accepted. The Med Society was an opponent; they are neutral now. We are trying to work that issue out as it goes to the Senate Sponsor. I'll be happy to answer any questions."

"Mr. Sullivan for two minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"That is correct."

"Yes."

"Yes." 09900038.docx 127  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"To them and also to the committee."

"Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Anthony, Davis, Leitch, Sims. Mr. Sims. Please take the record. On this question, there are 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3128, Mr. Hoffman. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Floor Amen… Amendment #1 would provide transparency to intergovernmental agreements. It's an initiative of the Speaker. And I ask that it be adopted."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Thank you. Mr. Hoffman to close."

"I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Amendment will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? 09900038.docx 128  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 61 voting 'yes', 45 voting 'no'. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Please hold the Bill on the Order of Second Reading. Excuse me, Mr. Clerk, Mr. Hoffman has a Motion to make."

"I would move that those notes are inapplicable."

"Let me… let me roll this back. The Chair forgot to do the verification. So, there were… Can you… can you put that back on the board, Mr. Clerk? There we go. So, staff will retire to the rear of the chamber, Members will be in their chairs. Mr. Clerk, please read the Roll of the affirmative."

"Mr. Clerk, Mr. Sandack removes his request for a verification. On a 61 to 45 vote, the Amendment is adopted. Representative Ammons is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I intended to vote 'yes'. So, I want the record to reflect on 3128 an 'aye' vote for that."

"It will."

"Thank you."

"And Mr. Hoffman is recognized for a Motion."

"Yes. I move that the notes are inapplicable."

"Mr. Sandack and Mr. Hoffman, the Clerk is working on a technical problem. Apparently we have all day. So, we'll be right here. Mr. Hoffman on a Motion."

"Yes. I move… I believe that there are two notes. I move that they are inapplicable. I don’t… one was fiscal and I don’t remember the other."

"Mr. Clerk, tell us what the notes are."

"And they were filed by who, Sir?"

"Thank you. Mr. Sandack on the Motion."

"The first note, Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Hoffman moves that the fiscal note be held inapplicable. Those in favor s… vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Crespo, Moylan, Sims, Thapedi, Yingling. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 59 voting 'yes', 44 voting 'no'. And the Gentleman's Motion prevails. The fiscal note is held inapplicable. What's the next note, Mr. Clerk?"

"Mr. Hoffman moves that the state mandates note be held inapplicable. The Chair recognizes Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields."

"Because I believe it's inapplicable."

"Well, we're not mandating anything. We're just… we're not mandating that any… a state mandate means that we're mandating a local government to do something. This is just 09900038.docx 131  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 providing transparency to the process of these intergovernmental agreements."

"Well, it's… it's saying that certain agencies of the state have to do certain things. A state mandate is us mandating a local school district, or something, to do certain things. That does… that is not the case in this… in this Amendment."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion to hold the note inapplicable vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Sims, Thapedi, Yingling. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 59 voting 'yes', 44 voting 'no'. And the Gentleman's Motion prevails and the note is held inapplicable. Mr. Clerk, the next note."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion to hold the note inapplicable vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 58 voting 09900038.docx 132  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 'yes', 43 voting 'no'. The Gentleman's Motion prevails. The note is held inapplicable. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I… I understand there's some issues with the Amendment, but the underlying Bill I don’t believe that there are any significant issues. The underlying Bill would transfer from the Department of Commerce and Economic Development to the… the Department of Natural Resources roughly $4 million annually. This is… under the current law, there are two revenue sources to this fund. A GRF transfer from an excise tax on electricity generating facility and a monthly surcharge on utility bills. It currently goes to DCEO. We would have it go to DNR. It's my understanding that DCEO is… is wanting to get rid of this program. DNR then would use the money in order to facilitate inspections of coal mines and would enhance that… their ability. It's my understanding that DNR is in favor of accepting this money. The Amendment is an… is an initiative of the Speaker and it's to address transparency of intergovernmental agreements. The intergovernmental… it would do three things. First of all, it would say that if you, going forward, have an intergovernmental agreement, that it would have to be approved by JCAR. Now, as you know, JCAR is a bipartisan entity and it would… it would have hearings to determine if… 09900038.docx 133  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 whether or not we should move forward with this intergovernmental agreement. If there currently is an intergovernmental agreement, that intergovernmental agreement would have to be filed and there'd be transparency to the process with the Legislative Audit Commission. As you know, the Legislative Audit Commission is a bipartisan commission made up of Republicans and Democrats from the House and the Senate. And finally, if… if you… if the intergovernmental agreement would have anything to do with sharing of appropriation line items, then we as a General Assembly would have to pass a Joint Resolution that would allow that. What we're saying here is that we want… we would like to have transparency of intergovernmental agreements, we would like to have oversight by us, oversight by the Audit Commission, and oversight by the joint… JCAR. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair has many people to choose from in response, but we'll start with Mr. Sandack."

"For two minutes, Sir."

"We'll take it off of Short Debate, but you only get two minutes, Sir."

"The underlying Bill remains, so this is just an addition to the underlying Bill."

"Yes."

"Well, yes, it does. It has to do with the intergovernmental agreements and there were, in the past, there was an intergovernmental agreement between DNR and DCEO regarding this fund. Unfortunately, it's my understanding, that they've not been able to reach such an agreement yet. So, we're going to pass the underlying Bill and we're going to provide transparency to all these agreements."

"Sunshine on government."

"Shine a light on government."

"So…"

"…no. This… this would be… this… this would be a new way that we would review intergovernmental agreements as the Legislature…"

"…in …in a bipartisan fashion." 09900038.docx 135  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Well, I would say that this is… is not… what we're trying to do is make this part of the legislative process…"

"…and not simply an executive note. Let… let me… let me make sure you understand. This will apply to all Executive Branches: the Governor, Secretary of State, Treasurer, Comptroller, Lieutenant Governor, Attorney General."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a significant Bill. It's unfortunate we're limited to two minutes. Question of the Sponsor."

"Sponsor yields." Harris, D.: "Representative, what is the basic purpose of the money in this… in these funds?"

"I apologize. I was… I was…" Harris, D.: "What was the basic que… what was the basic use of the money in these funds by DNR?"

"Yeah. So, they were… they were given as grants to coal companies, and… and coal commercialization. What this would do…" 09900038.docx 136  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 Harris, D.: "Right. Thank you very much. I only have two minutes. So, the $4 million now that you want to transfer is primarily going to be used for coal mine permits, correct?"

"It will be used for inspection and permitting." Harris, D.: "Correct. What's the largest coal company in… in Illinois right now? And who has the largest number of permits pending?"

"I… I really don’t know." Harris, D.: "I can tell you…"

"But you probably know." Harris, D.: "…it's Fore… it's Foresight Energy. And this…"

"I think they're getting sold. They just got sold." Harris, D.: "…this is generally going to ben… generally going to benefit one company. You indicated that the… the moneys come into the fund through taxation on electricity. Is that correct?"

"And I'm not trying… I'm not trying to stall you, I just… So, currently, the amounts, roughly 4 million annually, under the current law, there are 2 revenue sources of… to the fund from an excise tax on electrical generating facilities and a monthly surcharge on utility bills…" Harris, D.: "Okay. All right."

"…for delivering electricity." Harris, D.: "Let… it's unfortunate…"

"And natural gas." Harris, D.: "…it's unfortunate we only have two minutes. Let me just go directly to the Bill. The moneys that come into the fund right now are spent in three ways: grants to coal companies for commercialization, a grant to the Southern 09900038.docx 137  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 Illinois University of Edward… at Edwardsville for coal research, and an intergovernmental transfer between DNR and DCEO. DCEO gets… has control of the fund, they're supposed to transfer the money to… to DNR, $4 million. Last year, money was not transferred. Why wasn’t it transferred? Let me tell you why it wasn’t transferred, and I read from the… the position paper put out by DNR, and I'm going to run out of time here in just a second. So, hopefully, a colleague of mine will grant me their two minutes of time."

"Mr. Butler for two minutes."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you. Thank you very much, Sir. This is what DNR said as to why they didn’t get their $4 million in FY15. DNR's CFO decided it was not worth the hassle to get the money because of DCEO's onerous reporting requirements and stipulations on how the money could be spent. Comes from DNR. Four million dollars of taxpayers' money. There's a hassle, a hassle in… in reporting requirements? Good. It's $4 million of taxpayer's money. So, there is a problem with the underlying Bill. In FY12 they got their money. In FY13 they got their money. In FY14 they got their money. But in FY15, they didn’t get their money because there was a hassle in the reporting requirements. Folks, I am not against coal mining. We mine 57 million tons of coal in the State of Illinois; let's mine more if we can. But look at what we're doing here. We're setting up a shell game. The money comes in through the front door and we're putting over in this fund here. That's 09900038.docx 138  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 what's supposed to happen. But now, if he's setting up a separate fund. So, we're going to take it out of this fund and we're going to put it into this fund. And oh, by the way, in the Governor's budget, the entire process, all of that money that initially comes through the front door and is supposed to be put in over here, goes to General Revenue. In other words, it doesn’t go to this fund to get transferred to begin with, under the Governor's budget. There's a problem with the underlying Bill, absolutely. If we want to have the $4 million for permits for coal mining, let's put it into DNR's budget, where it should be. DNR's budget has been slashed another $8 million this year. So, why set up a shell game to move this money around, create a new Other State Fund and move the money around in Other State Funds? Lastly, let me turn to the IGA, the Intergovernmental Transfer…"

"Your time has expired. Mr. Hoffman was trying to get the Chair's attention."

"Yeah. I just… I just wanted to… to address this before we go to the next questioner. First of all, in the Governor's budget, he asks that the 4 million go to DNR. He requested it. Secondly, on the intergovernmental… on the intergovernmental agreements, there have been Bill after Bill that have been put forward by your side of the aisle that d… that does, substantially, just this, in the past. I agree with you. I agree with the people who put this forward that there should be transparency of the intergovernmental agreements. So, you can't, just because there's a change of administration, you can't change how you feel on certain subjects. Either you want transparency, either you want 09900038.docx 139  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 oversight, or you don’t. Now, I want to make sure it's clear, and crystal clear, this will affect Democratic officeholders and Republican officeholders. And we, as a Legislature, will do our legislative business of oversight. That's why we have three branches of government."

"Mr. Andersson for two minutes."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you. And thank you to the Gentleman, my seatmate, and I'll close with here… with this. The money wasn’t transferred in FY15 because there was a personality conflict, a hassle, as… as the DNR position paper said. A personality conflict between the director of DCEO and the director of DNR. The director of DCEO was in the General Services Committee just this past week. I asked him, what's your relationship with the director of DNR? Great relationship, we have a new… a new administration. They cooperate with each other. There's no reason to believe that that $4 million that's in the DCEO fund won't be transferred to DNR this year. But lastly, let me talk about the intergovernmental agreement. The gentleman was correct, there's three changes. It has to go through JCAR, it has to be filed with the Legislative Audit Commission, and it has to in… involve a Joint Resolution. He left out the fourth part. It now includes the Governor's Office, which intergovernmental agreements didn’t include before. But imagine this, it has to go through a Reso… a Joint Resolution of the House… a Joint Resolution of the General Assembly. 09900038.docx 140  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 What if we're not in Session? So, then it… a new intergovernmental agreement has to sit there for months until we come back into Session to pass a Joint Resolution. The… the underlying Bill, I have problems with. The intergovernmental agreement, we should all have problems with. It's onerous, it's… it's burdensome, and it sets up a process that is not needed. There's not a problem. There is not a problem. Why are we doing this? My friends, I urge you, strenuously, to vote 'no' on this Bill."

"Mr. Kay for two minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"Can… we'll check that and I can… can I get back to you? The staff is looking. If you have another question, then I'll… I'll give the answer."

"Well, I was told by staff that they asked the… the office of… the budget office for all of the intergovernmental agreements and still not heard. I do know that they're substantial, and that's the problem, I think, is that we should have some oversight. It says if there's a current intergovernmental agreement, all that has to happen is the current intergovernmental agreement is filed with the Legislative Audit Commission. Any new ones would go through JCAR and only to… to the previous speaker's point, we only have to act if it is an appropriation, moving one 09900038.docx 141  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 appropriation line item to another. Then, we would have to pass a Resolution proving that. Now, we could do it… we could do it at the time of the budget, with a budget agreement, we could say, for this fiscal year, these certain transfers are available. We're… I'm… all we're trying to do is provide legislative oversight and incidentally, I believe that you, in the past, had similar proposals with regard to intergovernmental agreements."

"So, I…"

"…I look forward to your 'yes' vote."

"The… To answer your previous question, Representative, it's an immediate effective date."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer for two minutes."

"Sponsor yields." 09900038.docx 142  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Well, it… it really comes… It's… it's not a new concept. As a matter of fact, as the previous Representative indicated, he had Bills that would've provided for this type of transparency."

"So, it's not a new concept."

"Why, I think there is an immediate need…"

"…because we as a Legislature have a job to do and part of our job is oversight. And that's what this would… this would do. Provide transparency and oversight by our branch of… branch of government. It's not… this is not…"

"I want to be clear."

"Can I be clear on one thing? This is not pointing a figure… a finger at the Governor or any other executive. It's saying, there were the problems in the past, and honestly, the problem, the Neighborhood Initiative was an intergovernmental agreement that the Quinn administration had all kinds of problems with that you guys were very critical of and I was critical of. There should be transparency and oversight and that's what this would do. We don’t want this 09900038.docx 143  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 Governor, we want to give him the chance to make sure that he has the ability to have… to not get in that type of problem that the previous administration got into."

"Well, I think this will provide accountability."

"We don’t know. They won't give it to us."

"Mr. Sullivan for two minutes."

"Mr. Reis."

"Good, 'cause I want to hear what he was going to say about medical marijuana."

"Mr. Anthony."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer for two minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"Well, since they have the… the most agencies, I would assume that also. But we've asked the Department of Budget, OMB, to provide the… the ones from FY14 and '15. I'm not trying to take up your time, and…"

"I’ll have someone else yield you time and…"

"Okay. But I want to answer… and… they haven't… they won't… they won't provide it. They haven’t provided it and so, we don’t know for sure."

"Well, part of this legislation would… would provide that current intergovernmental agreements would not have to go through JCAR. They just would have to be filed with the Audit Commission… Legislative Audit Commission."

"I've seen the light."

"Your request is acknowledged. Mr. Cavaletto."

"Mr. Sandack for two minutes."

"Mr. Demmer."

"Can you just… All right. We'll go… Leader Durkin wishes to speak."

"Please state your inquiry, Leader."

"While we wait for the parliamentarian, let me recognize Mr. Brown."

"Mr. Durkin, the answer to your question is, questions of germaneness are only relevant on Second Reading. The Amendment's already on the Bill. This… this request is too late, Sir." 09900038.docx 149  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Mr. Hoffman to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I… I do respect the Leader… the Leader and the other Members on that side of the aisle. And I understand you may believe, and I think wrongly, that this is simply a shot at the Governor. It isn't, it isn't. We've seen these intergovernmental agreements, when the Democrats were in charge, being abused. We don’t want to see that anymore. Whether you're the Secretary of State, you're the Attorney General, you're the Comptroller or the Treasurer, or the Governor, we should have some oversight and there should be some accountability. That's what this would do. In addition… in addition, this would create, unless I forget, the underlying Bill would create… would create thousands of jobs by providing the necessary inspection in the Department of Natural Resources to allow some of these new businesses to open. I ask for an 'aye' vote." 09900038.docx 150  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Mr. Hoffman has moved for the passage of the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. Davidsmeyer has asked for a verification. Members will be in their own chairs and Members will vote their own switches and staff will retire to rear of the chamber. Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Bourne, Brown, Bryant, Cavaletto, Crespo, Franks, Mitchell, Reis, Sims, Thapedi, Yingling. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 56 voting 'yes', 34 voting 'no'. And the Gentleman asks for Postponed Consideration. House Bill 1493, Representative Lilly. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Lilly."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and Ladies and Gentlemen of the General Assembly. I present House Bill 1493. We are holding a subject matter hearing this week… or next week, Wednesday on the 29th to discuss the oppositions and the concerns with the Bill. At this time, I'd like to have that hearing and present all Amendments and deal with them at the Senate. And I'll ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. Chair recognizes Mr. Sandack for two minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"I'm not angry. Mr. Pritchard for two minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"Thank you for the question, Representative. I've spoke with a couple professionals in the area. No, it's not the intent for an examination. It's a screening and they're willing to discuss the best means of getting that done."

"Yes, Sir."

"Mr. Sullivan for two minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"As the legislation is written now, it would be in the doctor's office for a screening." 09900038.docx 152  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"It would be more like a questionnaire within the doctor's office. And this will be discussed on Wednesday at our hearing."

"It would be added to those types of exams but as a screening."

"These… these particular screenings will be done upon entry in school: kindergarten, first grade, sixth grade, and ninth grade."

"No."

"No. That is… it's… we are proposing in a doctor's office and that is the legislation currently that our CP…" 09900038.docx 153  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Mr. Crespo for two minutes."

"Thank you, Speaker. Real quick question. You said that the mental health screening… Will the Sponsor yield, by the way?"

"Yes."

"Representative."

"Yes."

"Over here. So you said a doctor is going to determine whether this person has a mental illness or not."

"What we're proposing is a screening…"

"A screening."

"…for mental health needs. And as I mentioned, on Wednesday, all of the physicians and the nurse practitioners would want to talk about it further because they believe the idea is on point. So we have to work through what's the best way of handling it."

"I still have a problem with the fact that doctors are not necessarily trained…"

"The doctors would not… the doctors will not be doing an examination for this issue."

"So who will?"

"They would… we are proposing a screening. And many of the physicians from the American Physician Society indicated this is good legislation. They want to work through how we can get this done."

"Thank you."

"Leader Currie is recognized." 09900038.docx 154  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record show that Representatives Bradley, Cassidy, and Sims are excused for the remainder of the day."

"Thank you. Mr. Moffitt for two minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"The insurance."

"Yes. For youth, yes."

"It's included in the insurance as a cover exp… charge."

"Most insurance covers this cost."

"The… if I'm hearing you correctly, these costs are currently covered by the insurance company."

"Mr. Breen for two minutes."

"Mr. Sullivan." 09900038.docx 155  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Representative Bellock for two minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"It'd be a screening that we will require."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record show that Representative Riley is excused for the rest of the day."

"Thank you, Leader. Mr. Leitch for two minutes."

"Representative Willis for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Hi. I do support the intent of this Bill. I do have a few questions. As you're working through this, and I've seen we've done a lot of changes along the route, is the intent to still have it at just those key times when the physicals are 09900038.docx 158  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 already required as in our statutes already for the school students?"

"That is correct, Representative."

"Okay. And it's just basically to do a screening and if a red flag comes up on the screening then to have a mental health professional take it to the next step, correct?"

"That is correct, Representative."

"Okay. To the Bill. I look forward to seeing what comes through of the subject matter hearing next week on this. What we know is mental health affects our citizens at all ages. It's not just something that happens to adults, it happens to young people, also. And we also know that they're… sometimes they're not even acting out. There is not always a… a red flag that the family members see that someone is going through a deep depression and it's not until after the fact, 'til we've lost a young life through suicide that we realize, wow, there were signs there. If this can save one life, this is a… a place for us to continue to look and to work towards. While I think this is not the most perfect Bill, it is a Bill that's got the best intent, and I think it's on the path to a good piece of legislation. And so I do urge people to have faith in the Sponsor that we'll get it right as we move it to the Senate. And I urge an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Mr. Anthony for two minutes."

"Representative Bellock."

"Mr. Butler for two minutes."

"Mr. Leitch."

"Representative Lilly to close."

"Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen. I truly appreciate the discussion here today. As I mentioned, we will be having a subject matter hearing on Wednesday to bring these issues up and out. As you all have stated, this is a critical issue. You can… we can talk about it over and over again and that's why I am bringing this forth and we're having a subsequent… subst… substantive matter discussion on Wednesday and I would love to begin to craft the legislation that addresses the issues that are affecting our youth and our society today. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Flowers, Hurley, Mayfield, Sente, Thapedi, Walsh, Williams. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 41 voting 'yes', 53 voting 'no', 3 voting 09900038.docx 161  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 'present'. And the Bill fails. House Bill 1402, Representative Mayfield. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Mayfield, are you handling this Amendment?"

"Yes. I'm going to do this for Rep Jones."

"Please proceed."

"And basically, the Amendment just took away all the opposition. It just basically clarifies that colleges do not require students to take the class, just that they offer a course."

"Representative Davis, did you want to speak to the Amendment or wait 'til Third Reading?" Davis, M.: "Reading will be fine, thank you."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Thank you. Representative, was your explanation of the Amendment your explanation of the Bill?"

"Basically. Please vote 'yes'. There's no… opposition from the universities and colleges have all been removed and it looks like we've got a good Bill." 09900038.docx 162  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Representative Davis." Davis, M.: "Representative, currently all schools at all grade levels are required to teach Black History. Exactly how does your Bill change that?"

"This will… this particular Bill requires that they actually have… let me just… curriculum that's attached to that as opposed to a Black History program where children learn to sing hymns and paint pictures." Davis, M.: "Well, what you're actually doing is taking away the current law which is 20 years old. And that law…"

"That's not true, Representative. We're not taking away the law at all." Davis, M.: "Tell us…"

"Actually, we're working with the law. That's why we didn’t get any opposition from the schools. We didn't get any opposition from ISBE. This basically…" Davis, M.: "Excuse me. I'm not… I'm not here to represent any of those groups you're talking about. I represent people in a district. I'd like for you to tell us exactly what this Bill does."

"This Bill provides for course curriculum as opposed to a Black History program. We have an entire month dedicated to Black History and children are not learning Black history. They are having Black History programs. That is one night out of an entire month where we get to sing the Black National Anthem, you have a few children doing a play, one's Harriet Tubman, you got somebody portraying Abraham Lincoln, and nobody knows anything about Black History, Representative." 09900038.docx 163  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 Davis, M.: "That's because they are not following the current law, and the current law asks… and we have an Amistad commission that is in the process of developing curriculum so that all schools will have readily available to them the curriculum to teach Black History. And very often…"

"And this Bill just clarifies that." Davis, M.: "Excuse me. Excuse me. Very often, the teachers would say, we don't have time to seek information. So therefore, they were using the same information on the same few African- American heroes. I believe…"

"Mr. Franks for two minutes."

"Representative, would your Bill require community colleges to offer the course?"

"Yes, and they're not opposed to that."

"What happens if they don't have someone who can actually teach it who's qualified? Could it be done online?"

"Absolutely."

"Is that in the Bill?"

"Yes, it is."

"Okay. Now, does it change anything for kids in grade school at all?"

"It just requires… it states that a child cannot graduate either from the eighth grade or high school unless they've taken a class."

"Taken a class? 'Cause right now…"

"Completed the curriculum, yes."

"…they don't have to take a class, but they’re instructed in African-American history. Am I correct?"

"Correct." 09900038.docx 164  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"But are you requiring a separate class to be done for… to graduate from eighth grade and high school?"

"Okay. It states that a student cannot graduate without studying African-American history. Just by offering the curriculum, which is already in law, or by providing an online class, the school automatically meets that. That's why they're not opposed because many of them feel…"

"No, that's the comm… no, that's the community college aspect. I got that. You answered that. I'm talking about the kids in eighth grade and high school. Are you going to require that they take a specific class in order to graduate?"

"Yes, it's a graduation requirement that they take a class."

"Now, right… right now what are they doing in eighth grade and high school?"

"Okay. Actually, they have to have a class right now, there's just no requirement. So this actually just provides the requirement and it provides data that it was completed."

"But it's not a separate class."

"No."

"It would be like part of a social studies curriculum or something, correct?"

"Right. Correct."

"Okay. So, you're not going to put another mandate on the… on this… on the high schools or the eighth-grade class because that's already there."

"Absolutely."

"So, what you're only really doing is requiring a course to be offered at community colleges, and that can be done 09900038.docx 165  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 online. Would that be a fair statement of what your Bill does?"

"Yes."

"Okay, that's what I was trying to figure out. Thank you."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Crespo for two minutes."

"Speaker, I yield my time to Representative Davis."

"Representative Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you very much. I don't know why Representative Jones, who doesn't even see the fit to be here today, I don’t know why he would want to diminish the current requirement that every class teach African-American history, not just during one month, but in every subject matter. So to reduce that to say you have to have one course before you graduate is diminishing what already exists. It is diminishing what Representative Shaw, what Representative Flowers and other African-American leaders in this Body have fought for and won. Now if schools are not doing it, it doesn’t mean that they're not required to do it, but just to diminish this to one class, and for college a class online, I just think it's ridiculous to do that to your own people. Now, we have… we… we have people in place who have developed curriculum to share it with the different schools across the State of Illinois. The Amer… the School Alliance is opposed to this Bill. School Alliance is opposed to this Bill and they know why because they know how hard we have fought to get African-American history taught in every class. And I would not want to deny a child the opportunity to graduate when he perhaps was not given a choice of whether he took African-American history or 09900038.docx 166  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 not. We're not trying to limit a kid's ability to graduate from college… I mean graduate from eighth grade or high school. All we're saying is, African-American history is important enough, it's part of American history and it should be taught with the rest of the curriculum. I would just urge a 'no' vote."

"Representative McDermed for two minutes."

"You need more time, Representative Davis?" Davis, M.: "Yes."

"Please proceed. Sure." Davis, M.: "First of all, should this Bill get the requisite number of votes, I ask for a verification, Mr. Speaker. I think those of us who come to Springfield without the knowledge or past knowledge of what Legislators have done and the idea is I'm doing something really good, but what you're really doing is eliminating what currently exists, which is fine. Now whether people adhere to that law is maybe not being done, but that's up to the State Board of Education to see that it happens. I don't want to remove any opportunity for a kid to graduate. We could say a kid couldn’t graduate if he didn't have physics, a kid couldn’t graduate if he didn’t have some other classes. We don't want to limit children's opportunities to graduate from high school or elementary school. Barack Obama recently stated that 40 percent of our kids are not graduating from high school. Should we put more barriers in front of them? I think not. I urge a 'no' vote."

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"Okay. The previous speaker obviously does not understand what this Bill does. This Bill does not met… diminish Black History at all, it actually enhances it. And it actually provides an opportunity for our young students to learn Black History. This is a very good Bill. I'm a former school board member. I got to the schools, I visit the schools, and a lot of our children do not know Black History. They can't tell you a lot about what's going on during Black History Month other than they can recite the Black National Anthem. I think that our children need to know more about Black History and the fact that this Bill is providing more opportunities to our universities and our colleges for everyone to learn about Black History, it is a really good thing. Again, the universities are not opposed, the colleges are not opposed, ISBE is not opposed, not one school district is opposed. It is a good Bill. And I urge an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

Speaker Lang: "Lady's moved for the passage of the Bill. Representative Monique Davis has asked for a verification. Members will be at their desks. Staff will retire to the rear of the chamber. Members will vote their own switches. And the chamber will quiet down. Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Breen, Brown, Drury, Feigenholtz, Harris, Rita, Sullivan, Wehrli, Wheeler, Williams. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 64 voting 'yes', 23 voting 'no', 10 voting 'present'. And Representative Davis has moved for a 09900038.docx 168  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 verification. Mr. Clerk, please read the roll of the affirmative."

"Representative Davis. Mr. Dunkin. Mr. Dunkin. Please remove him, Mr. Clerk." Davis, M.: "Representative Moylan."

"Mr. Moylan. Mr. Moylan is in the back." Davis, M.: "Representative Ford."

"Mr. Ford is excused. He's not voting." Davis, M.: "Representative Flowers."

"Representative Flowers voted 'no'." Davis, M.: "Feigenholtz."

"Representative Feigenholtz is in the back." Davis, M.: "Representative… you said Fine?"

"Representative Fine is in her chair." Davis, M.: "Representative Hoffman."

"Representative Hoffman. Mr. Hoffman. Remove him." Davis, M.: "Representative Nekritz."

"Representative Nekritz. Representative Nekritz. Please remove her, Mr. Clerk." Davis, M.: "Representative Phelps."

"Mr. Phelps is in his chair." Davis, M.: "Oh, sorry. Representative Versch… Oh, he's there. Representative McAsey."

"McAsey is in the back." Davis, M.: "Representative Rita."

"Mr. Rita. Mr. Rita. Please remove Mr. Rita, Mr. Clerk." 09900038.docx 170  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 Davis, M.: "Representative Crespo."

"Mr. Crespo." Davis, M.: "Representative Sandack. Take him off. Call the Roll."

Speaker Lang: "Rep… Representative, you… we were still on Representative Crespo. So, I have not removed him. Would you like me to…" Davis, M.: "He's left. Rep… Crespo's gone."

"Well, so would you like the Chair to take his vote off?" Davis, M.: "Please."

"Remove Mr. Crespo." Davis, M.: "Call the record, Mr. Speaker. Nope. Yeah, call the record."

"Have you completed your request?" Davis, M.: "I have completed my request. Rep…"

"On this question, there are 59 voting 'yes', 23 voting 'no', 10 voting 'present'. And the Sponsor requests Postponed Consideration, Mr. Clerk. Are we ready to continue, boys and girls? House Bill 4015, Mr. Mautino. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Mautino."

"Delighted to follow that. House Bill 4015 creates a business entity license for limited lines producers of credit life insurance. I know of no opposition. Appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? I'm going 09900038.docx 171  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 to start asking this only one time and then we're going to take the record. Have all voted who wish? Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. 96 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3587, Mr. Mitchell. Mr. Mitchell. Out of the record. House Bill 3577, Mr. Rita. Mr. Rita. Out of the record. House Bill 3680, Mr. Smiddy. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Smiddy."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 3680 will approve the Interstate Medical Licensure Compact in Illinois. This will streamline the process by which physicians can obtain licensures in multiple states. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. I'm told I have to say this three times. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 97 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3909, Representative Tabares who's standing, thank you. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Tabares."

"This Bill allows the Fire Marshal and Department of Insurance to prohibit the release of certain information to 09900038.docx 172  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 insurance companies only in the danger of a life of a physical safety or law enforcement personnel or any other person. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 96 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1015, Mr. Verschoore. Mr. Verschoore. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Verschoore."

"Please pass it and go to Third."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Verschoore."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. This is an initiative by… actually the Illinois Environmental Protection Agency requested that they not have to have over 09900038.docx 173  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 burdensome paperwork. And I'd ask for an 'aye' vote and be glad to answer any questions."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 90 voting 'yes', 3 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3683, Representative Wallace. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Wallace."

"Yes. This Bill is a Bill for children and working families. It will allow HFS to impose administrative fines against employers who are not paying income or not complying with income withholding notices. And a portion of the fines will be collected and proportionately distributed to counties to assist low-income families with seeking visitation and parenting time. I'd urge an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 96 voting 'yes', 09900038.docx 174  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 247, Representative Willis. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Willis."

"This is a Bill that we passed very similar last year expanding the areas that count for gang recruitment around schools. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Lady yields."

"They're opposed for anything that would put more people into the prisons right now. The reality of it is this Bill is… this statute is actually used very little. Usually they can get gang recruiters on a di… a different mechanisms instead of…"

"Just to clarify and to expand what we would hope would be additional safe zones around schools including the parks."

"Mr. Davis." Davis, W.: "Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." 09900038.docx 175  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 Davis, W.: "Correct me, Representative, it sounds like you just said that the DOC is opposed because it's something that may put more people in prison."

"Yes." Davis, W.: "So will this put more people in prison?"

"If this is the only way that we can go and prevent gang recruitment around, it possibly could, yes." Davis, W.: "Okay. So is there a fiscal impact to this then?"

"There is… we have not done a fiscal impact on this. Last year, there were four people that were convicted on grounds of gang recruitment on school property. By going to the parks, we possibly could have maybe four additional. So, it is a minimal fiscal impact, but it's mostly a safety component to make safe zones around our schools." Davis, W.: "They could… never mind, Representative. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker."

"Representative Ammons for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"I would love to know how this will be defined as to gang recruitment versus just conversating with someone at the school."

"Well, this is something that we've discussed. And one of the things we do allow the police officers to use their discretion on it…"

"Ah."

"…and that is one of the reasons why it is not really used that often because usually they're finding other 09900038.docx 176  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 additional things that definitely clarify that there is gang problem and gang activity. So it would certainly…"

"Why isn’t… why is this…"

"…need to be verified."

"…a Class 1 felony? We have a whole cl… under class of people that have a felony for everything from giving wrong names to standing on school property now. Why is this a Class 1 felony?"

"This is not doing an enhancement of the crime of gang recruitment. It's just making the area. So it already, for being a gang recruitment, already has that felony status. It's just expanding the areas that can fall under the statute."

"I think that this is one of those Bills that could be certainly not implemented across the board and it has its racial implications. I… I urge a 'no' vote."

"Representative Ives."

"Sponsor yields."

"Pardon?"

"Yes, it is."

"Yes, it is."

"Yes, it is."

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"Yes, it is."

"Yes."

"What this does though, it is the… the felony status is what this does it on the school grounds. And we're asking that parks be added into that felony status, that felony 1, Class 1 status."

"Mr. Martwick for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"So, Representative Willis, I mean, this is a very good idea. I… I do have some issues with it though. So this is… speaks to the crime of… so, as the previous Representative stated, it is illegal to commit the offense of street gang recruitment anywhere in the State of Illinois."

"Correct."

"But there is an enhancement if you do it on school grounds, right? To a class… that's where it enhances it to a Class 1 felony and a Class 1 felony is punishable by 4 to 15 years in prison."

"All right. To clarify what we're doing is all we're doing is really clarifying where that Class 1 felony comes into."

"Right."

"So, it already is statute as a Class 1 felony to do gang recruitment on school property…"

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"…and…"

"…but you're expanding the…"

"…we're expanding the…"

"…what is defined as school grounds."

"…parks as part of underneath that school property umbrella."

"Okay. So there is one thing that particularly caught my attention. I understand the expansion, but it says property… public property or property open to the public which is within 1 thousand feet of a school bus stop. So the school bus stop could be on the other side of town away from the school, right?"

"Correct."

"And a thousand feet away from that there could be a parking lot."

"Correct."

"And that crime of street gang recruitment has now been enhanced as if it occurred right on the property of the school. Is that correct?"

"Correct."

"Okay. I… you know, I… I am… I'm for the concept of what you're doing. I think it's just a… it goes a little bit too far. It's going to lead… we're trying to do criminal justice reform. I think it's going to add too mu… too much to our prison population. I respectfully urge a 'no' vote."

"Well, what we're actually doing is we're just making it clear we all… this is the 1 thousand foot…"

"Mr. Bennett for two minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes, the Illinois African-American Family Commission and DOC are against it."

"The Illinois African-American Family Commission I've spoken with them a number of times. Actually, I thought they were going to end up being neutral on it. They felt that it was racial profiling. And the DOC, they're against anything that could possibly put more people into prison in their current financial strait right now."

"Representative Willis to close."

"I… we have passed this Bill in the past. We passed it last year and unfortunately, it stalled in the Senate. It is a good Bill. It is a Bill to protect our youth. It is a Bill that gives them a safe zone to be to and from schools. Where our children meet is where we want to have them be safe. I urge an 'aye' vote on this. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Andrade, Drury, Feigenholtz, Mitchell, Moylan, Sandack, Welch. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 63 voting 'yes', 29 voting 'no', 3 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4006, Mr. Hoffman. Mr. Hoffman. Please read the Bill." 09900038.docx 180  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Mr. Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think this is much less contentious. This would create the George Bailey Memorial Fund for burn victims. It indicates that if an individual is certified and that through no fault of their own they have burns that… that they're not going to live for more than 18 months that they would receive five months of their Social Security. Currently, there's a five-month Social Security waiting period. I believe that… I've worked with the firefighters, I've worked with the volunteer firemen. I'm still working with the Chiefs of Firefighters to finalize the fund that will… will fund this, but it will be funded largely and mostly by a $250 fee or fine on arsonists and aggravated arson. And I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Sandack for two minutes."

"Of course."

"It's my understanding that the average Social Security disability amount is $1100 a month. And you… they would receive this for five months, so basically $5500. If they receive repayment, then the fund has to be repaid. And we’re 09900038.docx 181  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 only talking about individuals who are burned to such an extent that the doctor's going to certify that they have less than 18 months to live."

"Yes. Yes."

"Mr. Costello."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Body. I'd like to commend the Sponsor on this Bill. This is a great piece of legislation. And I'd recommend an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Rita. Mr. Hoffman to close."

"Appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 90 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Mr. Rita."

"Point of personal privilege."

"Proceed, Sir."

"I'd like to welcome in the… looks like they might be leaving in the gallery, behind us here in the gallery, the Francis Xavier Warde School 4th grade class from Chicago. Give them a warm welcome."

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"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On House Bill 247, I was recorded as a 'yes' vote and I'd like to be recorded as a 'no'."

Speaker Lang: "The record will reflect your intentions. Representative Barbara Wheeler."

"The record will reflect your intentions. Mr. Hays."

"Looking to the left is easy for me, Sir. House Bill 3933, Representative McAsey. Representative McAsey. Out of the record. House Bill 3334, Mr. Franks. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 3334 would allow rescue squad districts to have an elected board of trustees. This idea came from the Marengo Rescue Squad District. The fire district held a referendum so its trustees could be elected by the public and the rescue squad wants to do the same. There's no opposition. I'd appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 96 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional 09900038.docx 183  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3746, Representative Mayfield. Representative Mayfield. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Mayfield."

"Sorry about that. Absolutely. This right here, what we have now is agreed language between the Attorney General's Office and the automobile dealers. It addresses the issue of used vehicles that are not road ready. It does have an exemption out there for antique vehicles that are often sold not working. I'll take any questions and I recommend an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 87 voting 'yes', 6 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3587, Mr. Mitchell. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Mitchell." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill extends the sunset date for the Illinois Sentencing Policy Advisory Council by five years. They would expire this year. This would extend them to December 31, 2020. They do great work for us on sentencing policy. I'd appreciate an 'aye' vote." 09900038.docx 184  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 95 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3577, Mr. Rita. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Rita."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 3577 is a medical assistant grant program for students going into the medical field. Be happy to answer any questions."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 95 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. And I'd like to give Mr. Rita the Zeke Giorgi Award. Some of you know what that means. House Bill 1359, Representative Gabel. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Gabel."

"Thank… thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill is an agreement between the Med Society and the Department of Professional Regulation. It says that if a health care worker is convicted 09900038.docx 185  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 of medical fraud in the Medicaid, Medicare system that their Illinois license would also be automatically suspended. At this time, it's not and it takes a lot of energy and cost from the department to have to do those trials as well, even though the outcome is the same. So, this Bill actually protects the consumers and it also saves money for the state."

"Mr. Sandack for two minutes."

"Please proceed, Sir."

"There are not any at this time. The Amendment made the Medical Society okay with the Bill."

"The Medical Society is fine with the Bill now."

"They originally were opposed."

"There were… the essence of the Bill is the same. There were three things that were changed. One was that it made it specific to… that it specifically… let me… one second."

"Yes. Yes. They wrote the Amendment…"

"There is no longer any opposition to this Bill."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 61 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 32 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Hays, you're about to get your wish. House Bill 3141, Mr. Hays. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Hays."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 96 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2717, Representative Ives. Please read the Bill."

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"Mr. Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just like to applaud the Sponsor on a transparency Bill. And I'm going to vote in favor of your transparency Bill."

"Mr. Franks for two minutes."

"Representative, I like the Bill and I'd like to be a Sponsor. But I do have a one conc… I have a couple of concerns with it."

"I'm looking at all campaign contributions made by a vendor to an official of the unit. I'm not sure they keep these type of records. And you know, when we do FOIA and stuff we usually don't require someone to create something new. Could we have a link or something to the… the State Board of Elections and put some names…"

"That's… can I just…"

"That's what I want… that's what I was hoping…"

"…because I don’t want to have to recreate the wheel. Would you be willing to do that where other things…"

"…are already…"

"That’s… I'm glad you made that clear for legislative intent ‘cause I like your idea. I think it makes great sense. I just didn’t want to have an additional unfunded mandate and a burden on the people who were trying to help. But I do think that it's very critically necessary. I wish they would have had this for the College of DuPage. I wish we would have had this for a lot of things. So, will this en… will this encompass also, for instance, community colleges and…"

"…require them?"

"Okay."

"Mr. Moffitt for two minutes."

"Representative Conroy for two minutes."

"Thank you, Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

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"Representative, I think this is a great Bill and I always support transparency. I just have to ask you if you can address the unfunded mandate part of this."

"And I would agree with you. But again, this… on the front end, this is an unfunded mandate and I think that there are times, as I've told you in the past, that I think we have to take each unfunded mandate as it comes. And I will be supporting this."

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"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Kay for two minutes. Mr. Kay has changed his mind. Mr. Davidsmeyer for two minutes. Mr. Davidsmeyer has changed his mind. Representative Ives to close."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 78 voting 'yes', 14 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3593, Representative Ives. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Ives."

"Mr. Franks for two minutes."

"Thank you. My problem I have with the Bill, why do we give them any severance? Why do we even have to give them anything? If we're going to fire them for cause to make them leave early, why are we doing it? I understand you have the 09900038.docx 195  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 one-year limitation, they don’t have any. I… I think a better Bill would be not to pay severance. If we're going to fire them 'cause they're not doing their job, fire them. Would you… would you consider amending this in the Senate to take out the severance provision?"

"Because they're getting money."

"Let's get rid of it."

"People hate it. You saw what…"

"…happened with Metro. You saw…"

"…what happened to College of DuPage. You're trying to stop it. Let's stop it. Let's not go around the edges. And if they want to sue them… sue us, let them sue, because then we can tell in public why we fired them. The only reason we have these severance packages is so we can hide from the taxpayers why we're firing people."

"Forget that. Let's be totally… let's make… put it all out in the open. No severance, you don't like it, sue me."

"I agree. And that's my only reservation on this. Let's try to get it done in the Senate. But enough of this nonsense. It's our money. If we're going to fire somebody for cause, fire them. They shouldn't be getting our tax dollars. And if they don't like it, sue us. So, thank you."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 96 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2556, Representative Wheeler. Barbara Wheeler. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Wheeler." Wheeler, B.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 2556 provides that the specified businesses and establishments shall post in a conspicuous place a notification informing the public of the availability of the National Human Trafficking Resource Center. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 94 voting 'yes', 0 09900038.docx 197  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1876, Mr. Leitch. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Leitch."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Franks, Mr. Mautino. Please take the record. On this question, there are 92 voting 'yes', 3 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3983, Representative McDermed. Please read the Bill."

Speaker Lang: "You have an Amendment. Is that correct, Representative? Mr. Clerk, please put this Bill on the Order of Second Reading and please read the Bill."

"Representative McDermed."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative McDermed."

"Mr. Franks for two minutes."

"Representative, I understand your Amendment. My question is on the original Bill. This would allow a Home Rule unit to reduce the required buffer zone? What's the required buffer zone now?"

"Okay. Because…"

"…because our analysis indicates that this is a reduction in the required buffer zone."

"Okay. So… right… So this… right now, they could be next… they could be within 10 feet and you're saying that…"

"Okay. Watch it, Mr. Mautino. So now, this would be 250 feet, which…"

"…we didn’t have any… any requirements before."

"Okay. What else does the Amendment do?"

"Okay. And is that bec… is that a gut and replace, the Amendment? Or is it the underlying Bill?"

"Okay. And tell us what the underlying Bill does." 09900038.docx 200  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"I'm worried about time. But I think our original laws, I'm told, is there's a thousand foot buffer unless…"

"…they changed the rule."

"But if they are using Home Rule, this would actually reduce it…"

"Okay. I'm running out of time. I'll…"

"Representative Willis for two minutes."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield, please?"

"Yes, she yields."

"Okay. I currently have two of my municipalities that are in the midst of a lawsuit because of an adult entertainment facility being put too close to the other town. What happens when you have one town that's Home Rule and one that is not that border each other? How is this going to call into play then?"

"But what about the other community that is…" 09900038.docx 201  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Okay. But another point… To the Bill. What we're actually doing is we're allowing adult entertainment centers to be closer to our churches, closer to our schools, closer to places that we probably don't want them to be. There is a place that these should be established. There are areas that are like that and we need to protect those areas that do not want these kind of establishments there. I'm going to urge people to vote 'no' on this. I think that, contrary to what the Sponsor says, I think we are actually allowing these institutions to be closer to areas that we don't want them to be. Thank you very much."

"Mr. Martwick for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is a very good initiative by Representative McDermed. She brought forth to try and rein in the issue of adult facilities being put right next to the border of one town where on the other side of the border there was a… a school, a… a church, a park, something where we… they would not within that Home Rule would want that sort of facility. So, this kind of… it came to our committee and… and everyone was very concerned about usurping Home Rule authority. The Sponsor took suggestions, worked on a bipartisan fashion to come up with a very good solution. This makes great sense. It protects everyone while still respecting the authority of each municipality to create laws within their own district. 09900038.docx 202  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 It's a good Bill, was done on a bipartisan basis. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Cloonen for two minutes."

"I defer my time to Representative Franks. Where'd he go?"

"We're all happy about that. Mr. Franks. Who is not… who has… Oh, I thought maybe he had left the floor, we'd really be happy about that. Mr. Franks for a minute and 42 seconds."

"Representative, there is some confusion because the… the Bill as we are… we're told is that there is a thousand foot buffer and we're concerned, quite frankly, that's what we're discussing over here, is the fact that this would reduce the buffer to 250 feet."

"Please."

"Why did you choose 250? Could we have like gone to 500 or was this a compromise of some type?"

"Okay. Thank you. I think you…"

"…I hope that could help clear. Got it."

"Mr. Sullivan for two minutes. Mr. Sullivan has changed his mind. Representative McDermed to close."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 68 voting 'yes', 23 voting 'no', 3 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Mr. Brown."

"I'm sorry, Sir, we can't excuse anyone else. There's no more room on the list here. They'll be excused, Sir. House Bill 3123, Mr. Pritchard. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Pritchard." 09900038.docx 204  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. There are 93 voting 'yes' and 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3910, Mr. Reis. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Reis."

"Mr. Franks for two minutes."

"This is a fee increase, isn't it?"

"So, we're codifying a fee increase because right now they do it, but it's not codified. This is a… this is a codification of a fee increase."

"Okay. So…"

"So… so right now… so this Bill would codify the three dollar fee and then would it take away the other fee?"

"Okay. Is there anyone opposed?"

"Okay. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 69 voting 'yes', 24 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of Second Reading, there appears House Bill 263. Mr. Sullivan handling this Bill. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Mr. Sullivan on the Amendment." 09900038.docx 206  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"We'll adopt the Amendment, Mr. Franks. Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Sullivan."

"Mr. Franks for two minutes."

"If I had more than two minutes, Mr. Speaker, I would ask the Sponsor a number of questions to bring this more to light, but since we're… have such a short time. Understand what this Bill does is it reduces the amount of free days that our citizens can use our world class museums. It cuts them in half. These are museums that are on public lands, museums that are jewels that we have. And what this Bill seeks to do is to cut the ability for people who have paid for these and paid for them with their taxes to be able to use these museums. Understand an 'aye' vote will cut from 52 days to 26 days that people can use our museums. I think that we ought to encourage people to use the museums more and more, not less. This Bill I think is misplaced public policy. I think it directly affects those that can least afford it. If you go to the Art Institute now I think it costs you 18 bucks to go 09900038.docx 207  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 in and if you want to go to the… if you want to go to the… the aquarium, it's about the same. And a family of four to go to a museum is approaching almost a hundred dollars. Most families can't afford that, quite frankly. We should be encouraging people to use these institutions, not discouraging. It's… we've seen this before. I think it's mean- spirited. I really believe that the people who have provided the taxes for these museums, who have supported them, ought to be able to use them. This is a misguided Bill and I'd encourage everyone to vote 'no'."

"There are 10 speakers wishing to speak on this Bill. First one is Representative Monique Davis for two minutes." Davis, M.: "Take the Bill out of the record and they'll be no speakers wanting to speak on this Bill. Anyway, to the Bill, Mr. Speaker. I agree with Jack Franks. It is misguided. The bel… the belief is if they have to cut, cut someplace else. Don’t cut where you're limiting family's opportunity to visit the museum. I'd hate to see a family drive from downstate Illinois planning to visit the museums in Chicago only to find they're not free days and they cannot afford 25 and 26 dollars, I believe at the Museum of Science and Industry. I believe the Sponsor is well intended, but I do think we hurt the citizens who pay the taxes to keep these museums open. Let's not hurt families and… and make sure they're not capable of visiting these museums with their children. We know that children go with their classroom teacher, but that does not allow them time to linger at a certain location and to learn more about a subject. The teacher has to move them along 09900038.docx 208  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 quickly because she has about 30 or 32 kids with her. I urge you to vote 'no' on this legislation. Thank you."

"Mr. Sullivan is recognized."

"Thank you, Sir. The Bill will be taken from the record. House Bill 3967. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Feigenholtz is handling this Bill for Mr. Sosnowski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Sponsor of this Bill has thoughtfully met with some of his constituents who are grandparents of deceased birth parents who would like to be able to register at the Illinois Adoption Registry. That's all this Bill does."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 94 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby 09900038.docx 209  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 declared passed. House Bill 3622, Representative Barbara Wheeler. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Wheeler." Wheeler, B.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 3622 is an initiative from the DNR. It provides that they're able to vacate roads on their properties that they own. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. There are 94 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Mr. Anthony."

"The record will reflect your intention. House Bill 3118, Mr. Wheeler. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Wheeler. Gentleman takes the Bill from the record. House Bill 3484, Representative Nekritz. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As… it's current law right now that… or at least we thought it was, that if a municipality 09900038.docx 210  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 make… fails to make its pension payment into the local pension fund that the IMRF could go to the Comptroller and ask for any funds that were to be sent from the Comptroller to the… to the municipality to be intercepted and sent to the pension fund instead. The Comptroller said last year that they didn’t think that they actually had the authority under the existing statute to do that. This cleans that up, fixes that, and we have an agreement with the Comptroller to do that. It also adds other local funds so that there are more funds subject to the… pension funds subject to the intercept."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 93 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2474, Representative Nekritz. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Under current law, municipalities are required to have an open meeting and take public input before adopting a budget. This extends that requirement to counties."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 93 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby 09900038.docx 211  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 declared passed. On the Order of Second Reading, House Bill 3592, Mr. Morrison. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Morrison."

"Mr. Franks for two minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to thank the Sponsor for taking this out of the record a few days ago. I had a chance to meet with the Department of Revenue and I rise in support of the Gentleman's Bill. What it does is actually save us money because right now there's early retirement… folks that early retired and we were charging them a higher amount for their payments, but it was never codified. So in case anybody complained we could get stuck with more money. So this Bill will actually save the taxpayers money. So, I appreciate him taking the time to get this taken care of. And I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the 09900038.docx 212  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 record. On this question, there are 94 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3523, Mr. Brown. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Brown."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 91 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Representative Ives."

"The record will reflect your intentions. Ladies and Gentlemen, on page 29 of the Calendar, under Motions in Writing. The first one is House Bill 173, Mr. Thapedi, who has moved to reconsider the vote on that Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Thapedi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to table that Motion."

"Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Bill… the Motion is tabled. House Bill 2787, 09900038.docx 213  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 Mr. Davidsmeyer moves to table House Bill 2787. Is there leave? Leave is granted. The Bill is tabled. House Bill 3246, Mr. Davidsmeyer moves to table House Bill 3246. Is there leave? Leave is granted. The Bill is tabled. House Bill 3444, Mr. Sullivan, on behalf of Mr. Sandack who made a Motion to reconsider the vote by which House Bill 3444 passed. The Chair recognizes Mr. Sullivan."

"The Gentleman moves to table. Is there leave? Leave is granted and the Motion to reconsider is tabled. House Bill 3668, Mr. Davidsmeyer moves to table House Bill 3668. Is there leave? Leave is granted. The Bill is tabled. Mr. Andersson has moved to reconsider the vote by which House Bill 3289 passed. The Chair recognizes Mr. Andersson."

"The Gentleman has move to table his Motion. Is there leave? Leave is granted. And the Motion to reconsider is tabled. House Bill 229, Mr. Franks has made a Motion to reconsider the vote by which this Bill passed. The Chair recognizes Mr. Franks. Mr. Franks."

"Thank you. I make a Motion to lay on the table."

"Mr. Franks moves to Table the Motion. Is there leave? Leave is granted and the Motion to reconsider is tabled. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 4021. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Golar." 09900038.docx 214  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 4021 shortens the time period for which individuals may be eligible to petition the sealing of certain criminal records by one year. It allows people to petition to limit who can look at their old records a year sooner, bringing the four-year waiting period down to three years. So that is consistent with the three-year period used to determine recidivism rates. The barriers are real for those with criminal records, denying opportunities, decreases safety and cost Illinois millions. The estimated benefits per year of allowing people to limit access to old records due to fewer people being on public assistance, tax revenue, and more… and an opportunity for housing opportunities. An annual savings of 200 million gained by removing the barriers to work and housing. I'll be happy to take any questions. And I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk. Representative Golar. Please take the record. On this question, there are 59 voting 'yes', 33 voting 'no' and the Lady moves for Postponed Consideration. Mr. Crespo is recognized."

"Thank you, Speaker. On House Bill 4021, I should have been recorded a 'no'."

"The record will reflect your intention, Sir. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 3159. Please read the Bill."

"No running Representative. Representative Moeller."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. 3159 is a basic Bill. It simply requires that additional information be reported to the State Board of Education regarding dental records for school children, elementary school children. This information is already being supplied; it started back in 2005. This basically codifies the information that's provided: the number of children enrolled in school, the number of children with or without dental sealants, cavities, untreated decay, and urgent dental needs. It also requires that schools provide information on… or the parents provide information on scheduled appointments and whether or not they're exempt based on disability. This information is being requested in order for organizations that provide dental health services, to provide them data on what the needs are in certain communities. Ask for an 'aye' vote and would be happy to take any questions."

"Mr. Sullivan for two minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes."

"Their opposition is not entirely clear to me. I have spoken with the Illinois School Management Alliance and we have agreed that we will work on the language in the Senate that the… they are in… they're acceptable to having this Bill passed out of this House and then we'll work further on this in the Senate."

"Absolutely. Correct."

"Representative Ives for two minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"This data is to identify where there are needs, dental needs in different communities. This is an initiative of IFLOSS which is a coalition that promotes oral health. And as you may know, in certain lower income communities dental care is…"

"…there may be gaps."

"Yeah."

"Thank you."

"Representative Moeller to close."

"Ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 73 voting 'yes', 18 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair apologizes for his outburst. Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"The record will reflect your intention, Sir. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 4021. The Chair is in receipt of a written Motion by Representative Willis to reconsider the vote by which that Bill failed. Those in favor of the Motion to 09900038.docx 218  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 reconsider vote 'yes'; opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 75 voting 'yes', 13 voting 'no'. And the Motion prevails and the Bill is reconsidered. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 4021. Please read the Bill."

"The Chair recognizes Mr. Reis."

"State your inquiry, Sir."

"The Bill was on Postponed Consideration, Sir."

"It's a good point. We might have done that. Thank you, Sir. Representative Golar."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. The Motion to reconsider for a Bill that is very well needed for many communities and it will be a restorative justice piece for many of the members of our communities. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Cabello, McAuliffe, Stewart, Wehrli. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 54 voting 'yes', 38 voting 'no'. And the Bill fails. Mr. Brown is recognized." 09900038.docx 219  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015

Speaker Lang: "Thank you, Sir. Mr. Clerk, the Adjournment Resolution."

Speaker Lang: "Leader Currie moves for the adoption of the Adjournment Resolution. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Adjournment Resolution is adopted. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

"Leader Currie moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. And now, with thanks to all the Members for helping us get through 09900038.docx 220  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 38th Legislative Day 4/24/2015 our day, Leader Currie moves that the House stand adjourned 'til Tuesday, April 28 at the hour of 12 noon. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. And we are now adjourned 'til Tuesday, April 28 at the hour of 12 noon. Have a lovely weekend."