Illinois House Floor Debate — May 28, 2015

"The House will be in order. Members will be in their chairs. We shall be led in prayer today by Pastor Larry Moody who is with Burritt Community Church in Rockford. Pastor Moody is the guest of Representative Wallace. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off cell phones, and rise for the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance. Pastor Moody."

Speaker Lang: "Be led in the Pledge by Representative Feigenholtz." Feigenholtz – et al: "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record reflect the excused absences of Representatives Monique Davis and Laura Fine." 09900057.docx 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Mr. Brown."

"Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 115 Members present, we do have a quorum. Mr. Clerk, Committee Reports."

"Representative Ammons."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise with a point of personal privilege, please."

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"Thank you. I stand to ask the Assembly to stand in recognition of the life and the untimely passing of two members of our community, both of which will receive an acknowledgement and later Death Resolution, but I did not want to miss this opportunity for us to all reflect on the life that we've been given and certainly the path for which we will all take. In recognition of one of our family members that we all remember as Dave Benton, we want to lift up his family at this time thanking them for allowing all of us to experience his life on WCIA, part of which is the principle of democracy shared through the media. And so we thank him and his family for his life. And I also want to acknowledge a young man who was a star athlete in Champaign schools who unfortunately passed away who's 18 years old. His name is Ravonte Leshoure-Baker. And his family is mourning the loss of this young man at 18 years old. His services will be held tomorrow at noon at Salem Baptist Church, one of our community churches in Champaign, Illinois. And we just want to give a moment of thankfulness for their lives and for their deaths, that their families are able to heal from this great loss. And I ask for a moment of silence."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Thank you."

"Members may be seated. Moving to page 7 of the Calendar, Senate Bills-Third Reading. The first Bill on that order is Senate Bill 23, Leader Currie. Out of the record. Senate Bill 398, Representative Feigenholtz. Please read the Bill." 09900057.docx 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Representative Feigenholtz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I stand here to present Senate Bill 398, the Culinary and Hospitality Modernization Act. This is a Bill. The basic principles are to modernize how we… we’re… the City of Chicago has been blessed to get the James Beard Award. The State of Illinois, they're revenues are about 1.8 billion from the hospitality and restaurant industry. I believe Crain Chicago Business last year said that more people were… there were more sales receipts in restaurants than there were in grocery stores. This is a… a growing industry. This Bill is supported by the Restaurant Association, hotel and lodging, IRMA, Licensed Beverage, the Chicagoland Chamber of Commerce, the beer distributors, the craft brewers, and Kendall College. It promises to drive more sales tax into our coffers, defines and permits meal packages, and entertainment packages, and pairings, and infused spirits. And it also makes the BASSET Test for responsible alcohol serving statewide. I am glad to answer any questions."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields."

"Sure. So last year, we passed the BASSET Test for just one or two counties in Illinois, Representative Sandack. I believe six states have already made the BASSET Test statewide. It's a very probusiness move. People can take this exam online and get certified. It doesn't take time away from managers to do the training and it dramatically drops the cost of insurance for restaurants and bars knowing that all of their alcohol servers have passed this test."

"Correct. It… it… the BASSET Test is designed to train alcohol servers, anyone who pours alcohol to… how to deal with and manage the serving of alcohol and to avoid overserving."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, let me explain what this provision is. We have many entities who move in next to schools, in the City of Chicago, specifically. I believe there's a… in, you know, it… for in… the story I like to tell is last year I had a wine store trying to open its doors to do business in my district. They approached me in June, a month aft… a few… a month after we adjourned and because all they sold was wine and they needed the exemption, they had to pay rent with their doors closed for six months having no venue in this… with the local liquor commission or the City of Chicago. So, we are not closing the door on the State of Illinois being a remedy for those exemptions, but we are affording municipalities an opportunity to set up a system to deal with scenarios like the one I just described."

"Correct."

"But they have to set up a mechanism in which they can do it; otherwise, they can owe… they have to pay us an ordinance or the liquor control commissioner has control. But as you can understand, sometimes, because of our Sessions, 09900057.docx 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 this becomes problematic. About 40 pages of the Liquor Control Act are exemptions, so we kind of want to be able to give people some remedy on the local level."

"They can still come here."

"Correct. Now, another…"

"…thing that I want to say about this Bill is it essentially sets a ceiling. There's nothing in this Act that overrides local control. Local control prevails overall…"

"…in this legislation."

"Mr. Reis."

"Sponsor yields."

"Go ahead."

"We're… we're not taking it away."

"We're giving… we're…"

"…we're permitting this… the local municipalities, if they want, to set their own system up."

"They could also always come back here."

"It's up to the municipality. There is no requirement for that. That may… you may be referring to perhaps a previous draft of the Bill."

"Most of the time when we do exemptions here, Representative Reis, we… we typically want the local officials to send a letter from the institution that's a hundred feet away, along with the neighboring alderman, but it's not required. But when people come to Springfield for these kinds of exemptions…"

"Thank you."

"Representative McDermed."

"Are you… I think these are two separate issues, Representative. Are you talking about entities that already have liquor licenses?"

"But you're talking about… what are you… what exact institutions are you talking about?"

"This is… this is about a liquor license, not about zoning or strip clubs."

"This…"

"The two hun…"

"If it's a strip club, they would have to comply with your law."

"I'm happy you're happy."

"Representative Feigenholtz to close." 09900057.docx 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Ladies and Gentlemen, I appreciate an 'aye' vote on this. I know a lot of us are concerned about revenue in the State of Illinois. And while we grapple over this, the tourism, hospitality, and culinary industry is providing a lot of jobs and a lot of revenue for the state. This will hopefully assist further in making Illinois, especially the City of Chicago, a destination for so many. And I would appreciate your support on this Bill."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Bennett, Ford. Mr. Ford. Please take the record. On this question, there are 82 voting 'yes', 31 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 691, Mr. Dunkin. Mr. Dunkin. Out of the record. Senate Bill 785, Mr. Evans. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Evans."

"All right. Thank you, Mr. Speaker and the great Members of this Assembly. Senate Bill 785 is an initiative of the Illinois State Medical Society and tends to allow for a license waiver program within the Department of Financial and Professional Regulations for out-of-state athletic team physicians. I request your support. No opponents."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please 09900057.docx 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 record yourselves. Breen, Fortner. Please take the record. There are 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Moffitt is recognized on a point of personal privilege."

"Welcome. We're happy you're here with us today. Thanks, guys. Mr. Brady."

"Go right ahead, Sir."

"Thanks for joining us today on the House Floor. Senate Bill 805, Representative Mayfield. Representative Mayfield. Out of the record. Senate Bill 806, Mr. Crespo. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Crespo."

"Thank you, Speaker. Senate Bill 806 creates the Student Transfer Achievement Act. Under the Act, a community college student who graduates with an Associate Degree in the transfer program and is accepted in a public university will be granted junior status and 60 credit hours. This is an agreed Bill in collaboration with the officers of the Illinois community colleges and public universities, the Illinois Board of Higher Education, and the Illinois Community College Board. Happy to answer any questions."

"Representative Wheeler." Wheeler, B.: "Thank you. Will… thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Wheeler, B.: "Representative, thank you for doing this. I know you've been working on this for a couple of years and getting all of the parties to agree on it. I want to comment during… during committee, McHenry County College came and talked about how successful their program was with some of the private schools. So expanding it to Illinois state schools is a great benefit to our junior college students. So, thank you very much."

"Thank you." Wheeler, B.: "I strongly urge an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Dunkin, Evans, Gabel, Sims. Please take the record. There are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the 09900057.docx 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 838, Mr. Rita. Mr. Rita. Out of the record. Senate Bill 920, Mr. Bennett. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Bennett."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Burke. Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 936, Mr. Mautino. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Mautino."

"Thank you. This is a TIF extension for the Village of Crestwood and… and Ottawa, Illinois. All letters are in and I know of no objections. Appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Sandack." 09900057.docx 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes."

"In the… well, in the situation of Ottawa that I can speak to, there is… there is some… it's coming towards the end of its life and they're actually doing this different than the other TIF districts in the state. They're taking all the areas that have developed, as they're supposed to, out of the district and they're filling in just those areas which are undeveloped into the new section and extending the life so they can do a new issue."

"Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Turner in the Chair."

"Chair recognizes Representative Keith Wheeler." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege." 09900057.docx 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Please proceed, Sir." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you. I'd like to introduce to our wonderful House of Representatives my Page for the day, Adam Annerino. He is a… he's finishing his sixth grade year at Parkview Christian Academy. School is out tomorrow; he's down here with us today. Adam is a leader among his peers at school and is interested in learning more about our state's political process. He's joined today by his mom and grandma up in the gallery. You can wave. And let's give him a big Springfield welcome. Thank you very much."

"Thank you, Representative. And welcome to your Capitol, Adam. Senate Bill 993, Representative Kay. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Kay."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 993 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Tabares. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 116 09900057.docx 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 993, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1076, Representative Morrison. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1102, Representative Anthony. Mr. Clerk… Out of the record. Senate Bill 1228, Representative Lang. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Leader Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is a Bill regarding the labeling of milk. It's an agreed Bill. There are no known opponents. There was an Amendment added to exempt raw milk. I would ask your support."

"Chair recognizes Representative Hammond."

"Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

"Well, yesterday was hump day."

"I know you're concerned about camel milk."

"I tried very hard to call this Bill yesterday so that you would be able to make this joke in an appropriate way, but I could not make that happen."

"Thank you very much." 09900057.docx 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1228 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Dunkin. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1228, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Leader Lang in the Chair."

"Chair recognizes Mr. Guzzardi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"Go right ahead, Sir."

"On the opposite side of the chamber in the gallery we have a former constituent of mine who is visiting today to witness democracy in action. Edwin Cost, will you please stand up? Let's give him a warm Springfield welcome, everybody."

"Welcome. Happy to have you with us. Senate Bill 1256, Mr. Dunkin. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Dunkin, did you have an Amendment on this. Do you move… wish to move this back to Second Reading?"

"No… yes, Sir. I'd like to move it to… if we could adopt Amendment #3."

"Mr. Clerk, please place this Bill on the Order of Second Reading and read the Bill."

"Mr. Dunkin on Amendment 2."

"Thank you. I move that we adopt Floor Amendment #2."

"Please tell us what the Amendment does, Sir."

"The Amendment simply allows for a Whole Foods and two hotels in my district, which are near a church, to have a liquor license."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Dunkin."

"Thank you, Mr… Mr. Speaker, Members of the… the House. Floor Amendment #3 adds another… an additional grocery store and three restaurants and they are requesting a liquor license because they're near some churches that have been there for years. And I would ask for a favorable vote."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1271, Mr. Walsh. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Walsh." 09900057.docx 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1271 is an initiative of the Illinois Park… Park Distr… Association of Park Districts. What it does is… is raise the competitive bid requirement threshold from 20 to 25 thousand. They haven’t asked for an increase since 2004. The last increase went from 10 thousand to 20 thousand. Be happy to answer any questions."

"Mr. Sandack, the Sponsor yields."

"This is…"

"It was House Bill 417, but they shelled it in the Senate."

"Happens."

"The Chair echoes your sentiment. Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Anthony, Bellock, Stewart. Please take the record. On this question, there are 69 voting 'yes', 47 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Mr. Martwick."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise on a point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed, Sir." 09900057.docx 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Thank you. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, in the west side of the gallery up and wearing proudly displaying their blue shirts is a school class from my district. Would you please welcome the seventh-grade class of Garvy Elementary to the Illinois chamber?"

"Welcome. We're happy you're here with us today. Senate Bill 1312, Representative Kelly Burke. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1421, Representative Gordon-Booth. Representative Gordon-Booth. Out of the record. Oh, I didn't see you, Representative. No running. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Gordon-Booth."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I apologize and thank you for your patience. Senate Bill 1421 allows a public utility that provides both water and wastewater service to spread the cost of its revenue requirement… excuse me… of its revenue requirement including capital costs, operating costs, and a return on investment, for both its water system and its wastewater system among all of its water and wastewater customers regardless of whether or not the customer receives both services from the utility. Essentially, what Senate Bill 1421 does is it allows the Illinois American Water Company to apply to the Illinois Commerce Commission in order to be able to put this into place. I'm open for any questions at this moment. I ask for your 'aye'…"

"Representative McAsey."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?" 09900057.docx 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Sponsor yields."

"Thank you. Representative, can you please explain what the current law is related to the way that water companies, such as Illinois American Water for whom this is an initiative, are able to bill their customers and charge their customers?"

"Are you talking about for what, wastewater or water?"

"Well, why don't we start with water?"

"Individual residents are billed for their water."

"Okay. So, if you are a water customer then you are billed for water services only, return on investment, infrastructure in… upgrades, operations, capital only for the water system. Is that correct?"

"Yes."

"Okay. And with regard to wastewater, what is the current law with regard to wastewater?"

"Say that again."

"With regard to wastewater services, how would a wastewater customer presently?"

"Same fashion."

"Okay. So right now, if you receive wastewater services you can be charged for wastewater services. But this legislation is a very drastic departure from that current law, isn't it?"

"I wouldn't use the word drastic."

"Okay. So can you explain what will happen for customers under your Bill? For example, a customer who only has water 09900057.docx 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 services from a private utility company, what will happen to them if this legislation becomes law?"

"If this legislation becomes law, the Illinois American Water Company would have the ability to apply to the Illinois Commerce Commission. That's what the… that's all that this law does."

"Okay."

"It doesn't go beyond that scope."

"So it would have… the private utility company would have the ability to apply to the Illinois Commerce Commission to raise the rates on individual customers who do not receive the benefit of the wastewater service. Is that right?"

"That's not true. No. That's not true. That's a myth. What this does is it spreads out costs for everyone so if something happens in your community and there's a huge water main burst, the citizens of your community would not have to bear the burden of fixing that particular service at that time. So the cost is spread out over the entire service prov… all over the entire service territory so that it remains a flat cost, a reasonable cost that folks can afford."

"Okay. So, to that. So say that there's an issue in your community, my customers on the service would be paying to repair something that's hundreds of miles away?"

"In the same way that if something happened in Lockport, yes."

"Okay."

"People would pay for them in other places as well. Yes, that's exactly what would happen." 09900057.docx 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"So, to the Bill. I think it's very important that the Members of this Body understand what this legislation is in fact doing. This legislation is opposed by the… by CUB as well as by the Attorney General's Office. I also understand that those opponents were not offered an opportunity to testify in committee. But those opponents and I stand in strong opposition to this legislation because, as the Sponsor just explained, what this will do is spread costs across the system so that individuals who do not receive the benefit of a service will be paying for the service. Water customers who do not receive any wastewater services will be on the hook to pay for wastewater. And the opposite is true if you are wastewater only, that you would be on the hook to pay for a service that you do not receive the benefit of. I'd like to give a… what I think is a pretty simple analogy to explain how fundamentally unfair this is. If two people were to buy a home that was identical in the same neighborhood and one individual paid a $100 thousand and the other paid $200 thousand, but down the road there was a decision that the individual who spend $200 thousand, well, they just couldn’t afford it. They paid too much. The person who paid $100 thousand would be on the hook to help them pay the cost of that. They don’t live there; they don’t enjoy the benefit. This is fundamentally unfair for consumers to pay the costs incurred by another consumer. It is not in the best interest of our constituents who rely on the basic necessities of water. For that reason, I urge your 'no' vote."

"Mr. Leitch."

"Lady yields."

"The concept… again, the concept of this Bill is to spread costs over an entire region so that customers don't see an excessive spike if there is a need for capital and infrastructure improvements. So, in our area, if there happened to be a large water main break, instead of simply our community having to share in the cost of that, it's spread out. No different than anyone else in that entire service territory if something happens within their community, that cost is then spread out over the entire service territory region."

"Can you repeat the question?" 09900057.docx 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Well, the transparency would rely in the Illinois Commerce Commission process. So anything that… all of the things that we're discussing today that people may take issue with, all of those issues would have to be justified with the Commerce Commission in order to be granted the opportunity to even do this. Again, what this Bill does, this does not enact anything other than allow a process for the Illinois Commerce Commission to vet and thoroughly go through to allow… to make a determination one way or another."

"There's a…"

"Certainly, and…"

"…and I don't…"

"…I don’t…"

"…actually, I don't disagree with you. I think that that process does take place. When the Illinois Commerce…"

"…when the Illinois Commerce Commission has their hearings, those hearings are public. The Illinois Attorney General is always… has representation at those hearings and advocates on behalf of the citizens. So, there are al… it's always a… it's still an open process."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"The noise level is pretty high. I can't hear you. I'm sorry?"

"Senator David Koehler."

"Yes, we do."

"Yes, we do."

“Yes…”

"…yes, we are."

"I think there have been some conversations."

"I wouldn't agree with that."

"Well, again, anyone who is in the service territory, if there is a necessity for a buildout, that cost 09900057.docx 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 is then spread over the entire service territory so that those wastewater or those water customers don't see an excessive spike."

"And when you…"

"…and when you…"

"…and when you need a wastewater facility, which Lord willing we will continue to live that you will eventually…"

"…need one as well, we will pay… we will pay for yours."

"Because if we all have this… if we all are in the same service territory, yes, we will."

"This isn't a Peoria centered Bill."

"That's not true. If… if…"

"No. No, I did not. If the individuals in your community are a part of the Illinois American Water service territory then they will all share the cost. If they are not a part of that service territory, they will not share the cost."

"It’s really…"

"It's very simple."

"I don't agree with you."

"I don't agree with you."

"Mr. Zalewski."

"Mr. Speaker, will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." 09900057.docx 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Jehan, I called the advocate for American Water and he mentioned that the Attorney General's Office did not slip on this Bill, correct? They didn't…"

"Correct."

"…they didn't file an opposition slip. Can you tell us just why… explain the AG's position as far as you know?"

"In all actuality, the AG's Office nor CUB has come to meet with me about their feelings on the legislation. CUB actually was present when I ran the Bill in committee, but they had no oral testimony."

"Can you… can you ask esteemed counsel why they're listed as opponents on the… our analysis?"

"Well, typically what happens when you have any sort of utility conversation that must go to the ICC, it's sort of the practice of the AG's Office as well as CUB to slip because of concerns that they will end up being a part of as it relates to the Illinois Commerce Commission process."

"So as a rule they oppose these types of legislation and therefore, they… they, as a rule, would oppose your legislation. But they made no vociferous objection to this in committee."

"Yes. They were late to committee and they did not… they did not testify."

"Okay. Well, I appreciate your answering my questions."

"Mr. Arroyo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." 09900057.docx 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Representative Booth, what does this Bill do to the city water? Is this a downstate issue? Are you trying to spread the… the costs all through the… through the state? I'm…"

"No. This… this has…"

"…I'm confused."

"This has no effect on the city."

"Has nothing to do with the city."

"No."

"But what… what is this Bill trying to do?"

"What this Bill will do is this Bill will allow the Illinois American Water Systems apply to the Illinois Commerce Commission so that when they have to make buildouts all over that entire service territory as opposed to say one community having to shoulder the entire burden of… the bill of having to pay for capital and infrastructure improvements, it's spread out over the entire territory. So that way that whenever work has to be done there isn't an excessive… an excessive cost that residents must incur."

"Drinking water or wastewater?"

"Both in that serv… only in that service territory."

"Okay. Thank you."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Sullivan."

"Mr. Phelps."

"To the Bill, Mr. Speaker. Just like the previous speaker, he's absolutely right. This only allows American Water to apply to the ICC for a combined tariff. Everything must be approved by the ICC. This doesn't require anything. This is absolutely not a fee increase. This is a good consumer Bill. Vote 'aye'."

"Representative Ives."

"Sponsor yields."

"Not sure."

"Representative Gordon-Booth to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, this issue is a public health issue for many communities. It is preventing rates from spiking on citizens at inopportune times. We're looking to provide adequate water and wastewater treatment. I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Butler, Cassidy, Gabel. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 63 voting 'yes', 50 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having 09900057.docx 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1440, Mr. Turner. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Turner."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Senate Bill 1440 deals with reverse mortgages and is an unopposed Bill. Reverse mortgages are a special type of home equity loan that allows borrowers to access equity they have built up in their homes now and defer payment of the loan until they die, sell, or move out of the home. Elderly homeowners are usually the target of predatory reverse mortgage scams. Proponents argue that as the population ages it is important that procedural safeguards are in place so that seniors can access this capital without falling victim to unethical persons. Senate Bill 1440, as amended, creates the Reverse Mortgage Act by consolidating current State Laws regulating reverse mortgages and making certain definitions and terms consistent with federally insured reverse mortgage products. It makes the following changes to the current laws. This makes the Attorney General responsible for producing consumer protection information. It provides for a three-day cooling off period in which a home… a borrower cannot be required to close or proceed with the loan. It prohibits cross selling of other products as a condition of the loan. Forbids anyone with a financial conflict of interest from financially benefiting from the reverse mortgage loan and provides for enforcement of the new Reverse Mortgage Act under the Consumer Fraud and Deceptive Business Practices Act and the 09900057.docx 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 Residential Mortgage Licensing Act. I’d ask for a favorable vote."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Ammons, Golar. Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1441, Mr. Bradley. Mr. Bradley. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1444, Representative Kifowit. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Kifowit."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill prohibits members on a commission board or similar body with members appointed by the Governor from receiving a per diem on two or more different days within a seven-day stretch unless each meeting lasts more than four hours or if there is a bona fide amen… emergency. Currently, there's no limit on when these bodies can collect their per diem. The Amendment changed it so that it only in… only applies to meetings that are confirmed by the Senate. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Gordon- Booth. Please take the record. There are 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the 09900057.docx 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1458, Representative Bryant. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Bryant."

"Mr. Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. According to our analysis, it makes mention of an Amendment. Was that Amendment ever adopted?"

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Drury, Hammond, Unes. Please take the record. On this question, there are 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1506, Mr. Bradley. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1526, Mr. Walsh. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Walsh."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1526 is an initiative of the township officials. Under current law, board of review… requires board of review to notify each and every taxing district affected when a taxpayer files a complaint seeking a change of assessment of 100 thousand or more. This Bill cleans that up and requires upfront notice from the complainant when the complaint is filed if they are seeking a change of assessment of 100 thousand or more, reduces the unwant not… unwanted notices to the smaller taxing districts who would have no intention of intervening in the complaint by requiring that notice to automatically… but it does require the notice to be automatically sent to school districts, municipalities, park districts, fire districts, and community colleges only. This basically is a cost-cutting measure. There is no opposition and I'd ask for a favorable vote."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mautino, Nekritz, Reaves-Harris. Please take the record. There are 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1548, Mr. Bradley. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Bradley."

"This sets an agreed sourcing rule with regards to equipment leasing. It particularly involves the farming… 09900057.docx 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 agriculture industry in the State of Illinois. I know of no opposition… I know of no opposition."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yeah, it's a sourcing rule so it provides for where the tax is actually charged on the equipment that is being sold or leased."

"Yeah. It… it's a poi…"

"…it's a… Yeah. It's a point of sale sourcing Bill. It clear… clears up ambiguities and actually was an agreement, which in that realm of, you know, is unusual."

"Correct."

"Correct."

"Better than I could've said it." 09900057.docx 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Evans, Moffitt. Please take the record. There are 114 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1560, Representative Nekritz. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This legislation is designed to right size our population at the Department of Juvenile Justice and tar… better target our resources to those who can benefit from the most and to improve efficiencies as well. So, the Bill does four major things. One is it keeps those juveniles who've committed misdemeanors out of DJJ. They’re identical to what we do within adult cases. And it also clarifies that for just status offenses, truants, and those kinds of things, that there is no commitment to DJJ as well. It suspends aftercare, which is essentially parole for those with… who have… are on aftercare but have committed another offense and that might send them to the Department of Corrections. Right now they're sent back to DJJ. We're tying to… we want to keep those individuals, because they tend to be older, out of DJJ. It limits the amount of time that a juvenile spends on aftercare to be proportional depending on the crime that they committed. And finally, it expands the documents which be… much… which must be provided by the courts upon commitment to DJJ." 09900057.docx 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields."

"Very much so. This is a… this is an initiative of the Department of Juvenile Justice."

"I would… yes. I would agree."

"Mr. Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, I would like to congratulate you on such a good piece of legislation. This is reform and I think that it's the right thing to do, but there's one question I have. Was there a study done on how much, if this Bill is signed into law, how much it will save the state and the county as a result of passing such a good measure like this?" 09900057.docx 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Representative, I don't know. I don't think I have a dollar amount. I do have some of the numbers on the number of individuals… juveniles that it will keep out of DJJ. So, for example, the… give me just a minute here. So, it… current… on Mar… in March of 2015, there were 27 youths in DJJ who had committed misdemeanors and the… they estimate that this would reduce DJJ commitments by 110 youth annually. So that's keeping the amount for… for misdemeanors. I believe that… that DJJ would say of the… of the individuals who are on aftercare and then commit another crime, which currently sends them back to DJJ instead of having them be held in county jail, that there are 70 of those individuals at any given time."

"So with this passage of this Bill and if it's signed into law, will there still be services provided for individuals that are misdemeanants that's in the system?"

"Yes. They… I think… they would still get services for misdemeanors. They will not just be released, but they'll be… they'll get more appropriate services. And I believe the data shows that if they're not incarcerated, even if it's at the Department of Juvenile Justice, that the recidi… recidivism rate is lower."

"I appreciate the legislation. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Bradley, Cavaletto. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 79 voting 'yes', 35 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared 09900057.docx 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 passed. Page 10 of the Calendar, Senate Bill 1564, Representative Gabel. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1590, Mr. Tryon. Mr. Tryon. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1591, Mr. Martwick. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Martwick."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1591 is an agreed Bill; there are no opponents. It amends the School Code. It adds a transparency. It requires applicants wishing to establish a new charter school to disclose in their proposal any civil or criminal investigation by law enforcement agency in… into the application. So if there's any current undergoing civil or criminal investigation only initiated by a law… federal, state or a local law enforcement agency that must be disclosed in the application for a new charter school. Happy to answer any questions. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Sandack. Sponsor yields."

"I do not."

"I'm sorry. Say is that?"

"It was a Senate Bill by Senator Collins. I was asked to carry it in the House."

"I was asked by the Chicago Teacher's Union to carry the Bill."

"Mr. Dunkin. Mr. Davis." Davis, W.: "Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Davis, W.: "Representative, so when you talk about investigating you focus on civil or criminal. Does it also include, because charter schools are often backed by corporate interests that may be say under investigation by like the FCC or some federal… SEC, I'm sorry. Thank you. Something like that. So does this Bill include those kinds of investigations as well?"

"It… it does and it… it simply says that any member of the governing body of the organization in investigation means a request for an interview by a law enforcement agency, a subpoena, an arrest, or an indictment. And this is by any federal, state, or local law enforcement agency." Davis, W.: "Okay. Well, so I think you said yes to my question, more or less?"

"Yes." Davis, W.: "Thank you."

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Thank you, Speacher, you… Speaker, you look amazing today. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, who else is the Sponsor of this Bill, please?" 09900057.docx 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"The Illinois Statewide School Management Alliance, the Large Unit School District Association, the Better Government Association, the Illinois AFL-CIO, Citizen Action Illinois, ED-Red, SCOPE, and LEND."

"Thank you very much."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Dunkin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, does this currently exist for Chicago Public Schools or state schools that are public, this type of legislation or requirement?"

"Well, this would… the law would apply to any new applicant for… wishing to establish a new charter school."

"So, you're saying yes."

"Yes."

"It currently exists already with the exception of charter schools?"

"No. No. I mean, there is… I mean, there’s no application process for establishing a non-charter school. A charter school has to apply for their charter to be granted. This currently… this provision is not currently in that process, so this would add that transparency measure."

"Right. So, if… if they're under investigation or they're been indicted, is there a recommended… 'cause I'm not familiar with your Bill… is there a recommendation in the legislation that would prohibit them from pursuing employment or teaching at these particular schools?" 09900057.docx 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Yeah. This is… this is… this requires the disclosure. So obviously, if someone applies for a charter school, there is… for a new charter to be granted by the State of Illinois or a new charter school to be opened in a local school district, there is a whole process that has to be… that they have to go through in order to be granted that charter. This provides an additional disclosure so that the people making the decision about whether or not to grant that charter have that information at their hands. Does that make sense?"

"Yes, it does."

"It helps the people who are going to decide whether or not to grant the charter school… charter. It gives them information to help them make their decision."

"So, a corporation with a poor business practice may not be qualified, correct?"

"I'm sorry. I'm having a hard time hearing you, Representative. Can you say it one more time?"

"So, if a corporation had a record of bad practice, we may not want to give them a charter."

"Well, that… that is… that's true and that would be up to the… the decision makers of that process. This merely creates the obligation of those people to disclose if they are currently under sort of any investigation or indictment, and again, only by federal, state, or local law enforcement agencies."

"Thank you so much, Representative."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Durkin."

"Sponsor yields."

"They must disclose any known active similar incres… investigation, active civil or cris… criminal investigation by a local, state, or federal law enforcement AG into the organization submitting their proposal or any member of the governing body of that organization. Investigation is defined as meaning a request for an interview by law enforcement agency, a subpoena, an arrest, or an indictment."

"That is correct."

"They only have to disclose any active investigation."

"They… the Bill does not speak to that specifically. It just merely says that they must disclose any known active investigation. So they would…"

"So, Representative, I would suggest that what you mentioned, the short statement, would probably be sufficient for the law but then there would be nothing prohibiting them from explaining further. Again, in my view, this is a… a way of providing transparency so then that the board that is granting… making the decision, whether it's the local school board or the Charter School Commission, whatever… whoever is making the decision on whether or not to grant this charter has that information, they can then follow up, ask the questions they need to decide whether or not this should prohibit them or should be, you know, the… the…"

"Well, again, the… there is… in the Bill as it's written there is no specificity, it's open ended, but it does say that it is a civil investigation instituted by a law enforcement agency. So if the state’s attorney or the Attorney General had instituted some sort of civil proceedings against a member of the organization or the organization itself, again, they would be required to disclose that and then they could explain that or as they see fit."

"Yes."

"Yes."

"Let me just double-check. I'm pretty sure that's the case. That is correct."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Drury." 09900057.docx 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I think this is a Bill that we all should be in support of. It's a transparency Bill that simply requires for a disclosure of information about someone seeking to teach our kids about whether they're under investigation. Now, there were some comments about whether or not disclosure of a Grand Jury investigation by the party being investigated is allowed. It absolutely is allowed. The prosecutors aren't allowed to disclose it, but certainly the individuals are allowed to say whatever they want and that's how we find out about a lot of investigations. People get out of the Grand Jury and they walk to the courthouse steps and they say, I was just in the Grand Jury. So that… that's a red herring. You know, I would think that anybody… I have charters in my neighborhood and certainly it's done very well in my district and so I'm not opposed to charters. But I think requiring them to disclose whether or not there's an investigation for criminal purposes or civil purposes which will only lead to further questions about it and people can explain what the investigation is. It's a good transparency Bill and I think we should be in support of it."

"Mr. Martwick to close."

"Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen. Thank you for the questions. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Davidsmeyer, Gordon-Booth, Hernandez, Jesiel. Hernandez. Please take the record. On this question, there are 104 voting 'yes', 11 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the 09900057.docx 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1595, Mr. McAuliffe. Please read the Bill. Excuse me. Before you proceed, Mr. Franks on a point of personal privilege."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, I'd like to introduce our Pa… I have two Pages today. Special young men who are exchange students visiting us from… Finn is from Germany, and we have Fariz from Malaysia. They'll be going home to their host countries in about three weeks and they came down to see what the Illinois General Assembly does. So I wanted to give them a warm welcome and I also wanted to try out my high school German to see if it works. Finn, so tell me if this is right. Das Postamt ist geschlossen am Sonntag. Hope that's right. All right, got it. Thank you and just wanted to welcome them to Springfield."

"Wait, you might want to tell us what that was, Sir."

"I… it means that the post office is closed on Sunday. That's all I got."

"I'm sure you did quite well in that class. Mr. McAuliffe, I understand you have an Amendment. Mr. Clerk, please put the Bill on the Order of Second Reading and read the Bill."

"Mr. McAuliffe on the Amendment." 09900057.docx 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Those in favor of the Amendment will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1630, Mr. Wheeler. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Wheeler." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1630, as amended, affords the Kane County Board the authority to impose a judicial facility fee just as this Body authorized the Will County Board to do so last year. The Kane County Board has requested this in their efforts to hold their property tax levy down by using this option to pay for important renovations to a courthouse that is over 150 years old as well as to make preparations for future expansion. I'd appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Keith, I… I stand in support of this. Any time we can allow the county to do their job and impose different 09900057.docx 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 vehicles to get funding to renovate the courthouse is a good idea. It is only for Kane County, right?" Wheeler, K.: "This is only for Kane County, correct."

"Okay. Thank you. I stand in support of the… the man's legislation. I hope for 'aye' votes. Thank you."

"Mr. Walsh."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, do you have… does your Chief Judge have an estimate on how much they'd be able to raise off of this to help out your court facilities?" Wheeler, K.: "The estimate that I received was 1 to 1.5 million dollars per year."

"Thank you. To the Bill. This is the same exact language that I passed last year with strong support, bipartisan support. This has been very help for… helpful for Will County to where we're looking at raising anywhere between one and a half and 2 million dollars per year to help our courthouse. I'd urge a strong 'aye' vote."

"Representative McDermed."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Brown, Harris, Mitchell. Please take the record. On this question, there are 78 voting 'yes', 37 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1641, Mr. Dunkin. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Dunkin."

"Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1641 is a Vehicle Services Department Bill and it simply amends the Secretary of State's Act to allow the Secretary of State to collect 100 percent of the revenue generated from the above and underground parking lots at the Capitol Complex. And I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Sullivan."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Yeah. The… the… correct."

"The… there was some omnibus language in here from the Comptroller's Office."

"Correct."

"We'll get the original."

"That is correct."

"That is correct."

"That is correct."

"Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Acevedo. Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this 09900057.docx 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Mr. Guzzardi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On Senate Bill 1630, please let the record reflect my intent to vote 'no' on that Bill. Must have been some sort of technical glitch with the switch."

"The record will reflect your intention and we will send an electrician over to your switch, Sir. Senate Bill 1645, Representative Wallace. Please read the Bill. We understand you have an Amendment. So, please put this Bill on the Order of Second Reading, Mr. Clerk and read the Bill."

"Representative Wallace on the Amendment."

"Thank you. Floor Amendment 1 simply changes the word 'waive' to 'defer'. And it allows for domestic violence victims to defer their down payment on utilities."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1657, Mr. Cabello. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1665, Leader Durkin. Mr. Demmer on the Bill. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Demmer." 09900057.docx 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Andrade, Brown, Mitchell, Reaves-Harris. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1679, Mr. Dunkin. Mr. Dunkin. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1680, Mr. Reis. Mr. Reis. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Reis."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. There are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1683, Mr. Breen. Please read the Bill." 09900057.docx 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Mr. Breen."

"Mr. Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"I'd just like to ask a few questions for the purpose of establishing legislative intent. The Director of Labor subpoena power under Senate Bill 1683 pertains only to inspections or investigations pursuant to OSHA. Is that correct?"

"That subpoena power granted by… well, is it your understanding or is that correct? It's your Bill."

"Okay. Thank you. That subpoena power granted by Senate Bill 1683 does not extend to other inspections or investigations outside of those authorized by OSHA. Is that right?" 09900057.docx 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"The subpoena power does not extend to inspections or investigations pertaining exclusively to other Acts?"

"So the Director of Labor cannot use the subpoena power to enforce Acts pertaining to the Department of Labor's Fair Labor Standards Division such as the Child Labor Law or the Day Temporary Labor Services Act or the One Day Rest in Seven Act. Is that right?"

"In addition, they can't… the Director of Labor cannot use subpoena power to enforce acts pertaining to the Department of Labor's Cons… Conciliation or Mediation Division such as Employee Classification Act, or the Prevailing Wage Act, or the Equal Pay Act, or Acts pertaining to the Department of Labor's Legal Division such as the Freedom of Information Act, Personal Records Review Act, or Jobs Opportunity for Qualified Act… Applica… Applicants Act. Is that right?"

"So again, to be absolutely clear, because I'm asked… I… I just want to make it absolutely clear 'cause I'm asked to ask you to make it absolutely clear, the Department of Labor subpoena power under Senate Bill 1683 pertains only and only to inspections or investigations pursuant to OSHA. Is that right?"

"Thank you, Representative." 09900057.docx 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Brady, Pritchard, Wheeler. Please take the record. There are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1684, Representative Conroy. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Conroy."

"Thank you, Speaker. Senate Bill 1684 creates two advisory committees about two serious medical conditions of which very little is known. The first comes from two brave moms, Kate Groby-Drury and Wendy Newara, who fought for a very long time to find treatment… diagnosis and treatment for their two sons, both of which are named Charlie. The condition is called PANDAS short, but what it means is Pediatric Autoimmune Neuropsychiatric Disorder associated with streptococcal infection which is strep throat. PANDAS can trigger and inflate symptoms of autism, ADHD, obsessive compulsive disorder, or even Tourette's syndrome. This study will help to get awareness out to parents so that they don’t have to struggle as hard as these moms did to find the proper treatment for their… their children. The second is an advisory council to study Neural… Neu… Neonatal Abstinence Syndrome which is a condition that occurs in newborns due to exposure to addictive illegal or prescription drugs. I… there is no opposition and I would appreciate a 'yes' vote." 09900057.docx 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Costello. Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1702, Representative Tabares. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Tabares."

"This Bill is an initiative of the Illinois Secretary of State and the Illinois Manufacturing Housing Association to set guidelines for the licensing of manufactured home dealers. The sales of these homes are regulated by the Set… Secretary of State and this Bill just provides specific definitions, licensing standards, and business requirements for these manufacturing home dealers. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Sandack, the Sponsor yields."

"These licensing standards and the business requirements are for the… for the manufactured homes. The solely manufactured homes are just asking the Secretary of State to apply for a license."

"That's correct. Only for the manufacturing home dealers."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Franks, Tryon. Please take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1704, Representative Hammond. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Hammond."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Tryon. Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1714, Mr. Brown. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Brown." 09900057.docx 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Acevedo, Franks, Rita, Williams. Please take the record. There are 114 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1726, Mr. Phelps. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Phelps."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is an initiative of Senator Chapin Rose and Farm Bureau. It's an agreed Bill; there's no opposition. It just provides important improvements to the process of notifying landowners when electric transmission line construction projects are going across their land."

"Mr. Moffitt."

"Sponsor yields."

"It absolutely does. I know Representative Brown has done this for a while. But yeah, this is Farm Bureau's initiative, Representative Moffitt, to make sure the landowners are notified better than they had been in the past."

"Absolutely."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Bennett, Currie, Demmer, Hays, Rita. Please take the record. There are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1728, Leader Currie. Please read the Bill. We understand there's an Amendment. Mr. Clerk, please put the Bill on the Order of Second Reading and please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. This deals with the Histor… Historic Preservation Agency and the Abraham Lincoln Museum and Library. Why don't we adopt the Amendment and I'm happy to discuss the Bill on Third." 09900057.docx 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Please hold this Bill on the Order of Second Reading. Senate Bill 1735, Mr. Franks. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1735 is an initiative of the McHenry County State’s Attorney due to a recent case involving animal hoarding at a horse farm and the local animal control facility lacking the means to house the horses during the court-ordered process. So, this Bill would clarify that on-site impoundment is permitted under the statute and that access is authorized for the limited purpose of providing treatment and ensuring the well-being of the animals. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Flowers, Mautino, Riley. Please take the record. There are 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1741, Leader Currie. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1745, Representative Chapa LaVia. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1747, Mr. Sims. Out of the record. Seven… Senate Bill 1751, 09900057.docx 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 Representative Feigenholtz. Please read the Bill. Excuse me, Mr. Clerk. Out of the record. Next page, page 12 of the Calendar, Senate Bill 176… Excuse me. 1763, Representative Moeller. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Moeller."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Senate Bill 1763 is concerned primarily with the Department of Children and Family Services and ensuring that they are providing the best care for children who have been the most traumatized. The Bill combines several pieces of legislation into one and does the following four things. First, it creates a multidisciplinary work group to review treatment programs for children who've been a victim of the sex trafficking trade. Secondly, it requires DCFS to implement a five-year pilot program for children who have been particularly traumatized. Third, it requires the Department of Human Services to work with IDOT to promote awareness of the National Human Trafficking Hotline. And finally, it requires DCFS to adopt rules and regulations concerning the reporting of abuse and neglect by employees and foster parents in the DCFS system. This Bill has no opposition and I would be happy to take any questions. Ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Currie, Phelps, Verschoore. Please take the record. There are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received 09900057.docx 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1764, Representative Lilly. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Lilly."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the General Assembly. I rise to present SB1764. This Bill updates our infertility coverage mandates to reflect current practices. There's no opponents. It expands the definition of infertility to include the inability to conceive after one year of attempt to produce conception and the inability to conceive after an individual is diagnosed with a condition affecting infertility. If there's no questions, I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Sandack, the Sponsor yields."

"Yes, I apologize. I have a little headache so I appreciate it, thank you. This Bill updates… this Bill updates our infertility coverage mandates to reflect current medical practices. It expands the definition to include infertilities to include the inability to conceive after one year of attempt to produce conception and the inability to conceive after an individual is diagnosed with a condition affecting fertility. There is no opponents to this Bill and I ask for your 'aye' vote." 09900057.docx 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"That's the current law."

"We are really clarifying and defining the definition."

"That is correct."

"You're welcome."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Bryant, Sosnowski. Please take the record. There are 109 voting 'yes', 7 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1775, Representative Flowers. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1775 provides that any child or person in the care of DCFS who is placed in a residential facility under contract with DCFS must be reported missing to the local law enforcement if there is no contact between an employee of the residential facility and the child or person within 12 hours 09900057.docx 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 and the person or the child is absent from the residential facility without prior approval. And I would appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Ammons. Please take the record. There are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1781, Mr. Rita. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Rita."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1781 is an initiative of the Illinois Insurance Guaranty Fund. And what it basically does is clarifies a court decision… a Supreme Court decision in 2013 that applies a cap and allows that the Guaranty Fund could go after and recover funds."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Arroyo, Gordon-Booth, Sullivan. Please take the record. There are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1782, Mr. Rita. Going to press your luck, Sir? Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Rita."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Again, this is another initiative of the Illinois Insurance Guaranty Fund and it also codifies another court decision in dealing with the statutory rights of recovery."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Davis, Flowers, Nekritz, Pritchard, Wheeler, Willis. Please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1800, Representative Feigenholtz. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Feigenholtz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a Bill supported by the Illinois Department of Public Health, the Illinois Municipal League, and the City of Chicago. It states that local health departments can establish a self-inspection test. These are local, low risk entities that don't do cooking on-site. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields."

"It… Representative, it's a… it's a place that probably sells food that is shrink-wrapped. It's got no cooking facilities on-site to be concerned about food handling. Low-risk."

"I'm not sure that the words ‘shrink wrap’ are in the Bill."

"When you walk into a building in downtown Chicago they have commissaries on the first floor, some of them have soda and sandwiches in their refrigerator. I would consider that low risk."

"Correct."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Manley, Nekritz. Please take the record. There are 81 voting 'yes', 35 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby 09900057.docx 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 declared passed. Senate Bill 1803, Mr. Mautino. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Mautino."

"Thank you. Senate Bill 1803 is a transportation study up in the LaSalle County area where we have had a great influx of mining, sand mine, fracking, permitting along with some terminals which are going to be established for grain transportation. And so we have had an ex… we have a potential explosion of trucking which is a good thing for the area. But we also want to do an impact on our road… impact study on our roads and infrastructure. That's what this will do. So, it's not specifically just mining."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? McSweeney. Please take the record. There are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1806, Mr. Mautino. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Mautino."

"Yes. I was just preparing for 1805. 1806 is a date change from the Guaranty Fund. They request 30 more days to produce their report for us."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who 09900057.docx 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mayfield. Mayfield. Please take the record. There are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1818, Representative Chapa LaVia. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Hi there, Speaker. Thank you. Senate Bill 1818 is similar to House Bill 3707 that we didn't get out of Rules over here that I was carrying. But what it does it adds two military engagements and cuts the amount of scholarships given out by the counties by half. So it's an agreed Bill. I'll take any questions."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Bourne, Brown, Jones, Mitchell, Moffitt. Please record yourselves. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1820, Representative Lilly. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Lilly."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the General Assembly. I rise to spi… to present SB1820. This Bill changes the Pawnbroker Regulations Act. This Bill will 09900057.docx 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 further give piece of mind to community members and businesses that own pon shop… pawn shops and cannot deal the stolen merchandise. This Bill has no opponents."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. There are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1827, Mr. Franks. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1827 is almost identical to House Bill 500 which we had passed unanimously on April 23. The difference is we also included the Illinois State Veterinary Medical Association. And this is an agreed Bill. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Sullivan. Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1833, Representative Williams. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Williams." 09900057.docx 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In 2005, Illinois passed one of the first data breach notification laws in the country, the Personal Information Protection Act. That provided for notification of a breach of a Social Security number, credit card, or driver's license number. Interestingly, I staffed the AG at the time so I remember this Bill pretty well. Now 10 years later, we've gone back to the drawing board to update this law and update this sort of notification that must be required in the wake of the numerous data breaches that we've all been impacted by. The landscape has changed so much since 2005. We all walk around with smart phones in our pockets. The Internet is part of our everyday lives in a way we never could've imagined. The AG had been hearing from so many Illinois consumers about concerns with regard to data security that she hosted over 30 round tables throughout the State of Illinois, many of them with Members of the General Assembly here. The result was very, very clear. Illinois consumers want us to do much more to protect their data. In fact, a recent poll showed 76 percent of Americans believe their data online is not protected enough. This Bill does a couple of things. First, it requires companies to notify consumers that they are collecting sensitive information, to take reasonable steps to protect the information, and if there's a breach, let the consumers know or in some cases let the Attorney General know so she can track this information other than finding out in the newspaper. The world has changed so dramatically, we've also added additional categories that need to be monitored for… by companies when they're collected, compiled, sold, and shared about all of us. As I mentioned, 09900057.docx 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 the world has changed so dramatically, we just need to update our law to keep up. This Bill has been extensively negotiated. We probably had four or five Amendments. The parties that are neutral include members of the business community including the Illinois Retail Merchants, the community bankers, the credit unions. The opposition, my friends, is pretty much the same as the opposition in 2005. Would be happy to answer a question… any questions you might have and would appreciate your support."

"Mr. Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Davis, W.: "Representative, I have a question."

"Yes." Davis, W.: "While a number of trade associations either support the Bill or are neutral, I have heard industry representatives state that this Bill would add unnecessary costs because of the additional data breach notification requirements for consumers. Is that true?"

"The cost companies are pointing to stem from data breaches. The Bill is not causing data breaches, nor will it penalize companies when they are breached. Weak data security practices cause data breaches. We're passing this Bill to help ensure there are fewer data breaches. That's our goal." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Representative."

"You're welcome, Rep."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Of course."

"I can get you one."

"We've got a lot of it."

"Well, I think the opposition can be characterized. I'm not concerned so much about the quantity but the quality of the opposition. The opposition really has come down to that of a philosophical opposition to what constitutes sensitive data and what needs to be protected. So the opponents that are remaining I believe, and I believe they attested… or said this in committee as well, really just don't feel that it's necessary to protect information such as your biometric information, information as to where you are, what's tracked on your phone, things that might susc… make you susceptible to phishing attacks, et cetera. I would argue that the Illinois consumers feel very, very differently and want this information protected."

"Right now we are the first state to propose the monitoring… to hope to move the monitoring of geolocation 09900057.docx 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 data. But let's be clear what that is. Geolocation data is anything that any device, map quest, google maps, your phone tracks where you are at any given time. Now everybody has an expectation when you use these devices that your location is monitored and tracked, that's fine. The problem comes in, is this data being properly protected, and if there is a breach, do you know that there's a breach and can you be made aware of it? We've actually scaled back on that component and provide notification to the Attorney General rather than individual notification of consumers. And I will add, on the federal level, some proposals, which incidentally have not been moving forward, do propose geolocations. So I expect to see a wave of states moving forward to protect this information very soon."

"Yeah. And I would argue, this is all new information. I got a fancy new iPhone and it does a lot more than my old phone did, so there's a lot more information even available on me even since I had the old phone."

"You know, again, I would characterize the remaining opposition for the most part as just having a philosophical disagreement with the proponents, including myself, as to what information should be protected. Much of the business community has said this is not difficult to protect. They're taking steps, they're able to do it. In fact, the Community Bankers are neutral, as I pointed out, as well as the credit unions. So I guess I'm really not sure what else we could do. We did work very hard but to accommodate their concerns basically would be to eliminate the provisions that make this Bill worthwhile."

"Sure."

"Correct."

"I don't know if I have the exact number of complaints we have received."

"…but I can give you… I can give you a few other stats. Well in Illinois, we've have extens… Okay, here we go. Data breach complaints. All right. We have had… I think the number of… okay. I have a lot of stats and a lot of figures, but let me read a couple to you." 09900057.docx 80  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"All right. Give me a minute to add some stuff. Breach complaints, identity theft complaints, calls to identity theft hotline are all kind of totaled up together. So I would see among those categories, I'll take out the hotline calls. Between identity theft, breach, data security complaints I'm looking at about 42 thousand."

"Yes. Calls, complaints to the AG's Office."

"I… I'm including identity theft and breach complaints because unfortunately they go hand in hand."

"Yeah."

"Interestingly, Target data… data information breaches would not be covered under this Bill because it's a direct relationship. So obviously, Social Security numbers, credit cards, driver's license numbers, covered under the old law."

"But we wouldn’t even be notified of those breaches but for the Illinois law. There is no federal protection except in specified categories like under HIPAA, et cetera. So, this really is the Wild West and as the data that's available and the data that's collected, sold, compiled about all of us increases, we… we need to do more and we need to take steps."

"Well, I think what we've seen, there are some federal proposals but nothing has moved forward. And I will tell you, if we'd waited for Federal Laws on the subject of data breaches with Social Security numbers and driver's license, we wouldn't have anything on the books. So State Laws have really driven this discussion. And honestly, I don't anticipate the Federal Law moving backwards from what we've done in the states. California and some other states are ahead of us on this. We see states continually updating their data breach laws as there's more and more data as they see more and more breaches, unfortunately as we've seen here in Illinois. The stats I have how Illinois are… consumers are impacted by breaches are really stunning. We're talking about millions of consumers in all these categories."

"Thank you."

"Representative Burke." Burke, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Burke, K.: "We've received a few questions about the legislative intent of a few of the Bill's provisions and I'd just like to address those questions now. Does Senate Bill 1833 require notification for potential hacking incidents where access to an online account is granted using legitimate credentials?"

"No. Data collectors are not required to notify consumers if the account is accessed using legitimate credentials. They are required to notify if there was a breach of the actual log in credentials." Burke, K.: "Does the definition of unique biometric information in Section 5(1)(f) encompass photographs, audio, and videos?"

"This does not capture photographs, audio, or videos. The inclusion of the phrase measurements or technical analysis contemplates a process for identifying or authenticating an individual, such as a fingerprint, not for viewing a photograph or a video or listening to audio." Burke, K.: "What happens if a data collector is not able to provide all of the required information in the notification to the Attorney General following a confirmed security breach?" 09900057.docx 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"If they are unable to provide information, they obviously are not required to do so." Burke, K.: "Senate Bill 1833 requires data collectors suffering breaches to provide a notification to the Attorney General that includes the types of personal information 'compromised in the data breach'. How specific do data collectors have to be to meet this requirement?"

"Data collectors only have to provide the type of information that are listed within the definition of personal information, so not additional specificity. For example, if the breached data was a credit card number, a data collector would only have to state it was a credit card number lost. Geolocation data, which came up earlier, data collectors would only have to provide notice that geolocation data was lost, not the specifics of what data… geolocation data was lost." Burke, K.: "How does Senate Bill 1833 affect current contracts between companies sharing data?"

"There's no impact on current contracts. It only affects contracts entered into after the effective date of this Act, which will hopefully be January 1, 2016." Burke, K.: "Thank you for your answers, and I look forward to supporting your Bill."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Demmer."

"Sponsor yields."

"Well, in the Bill we define it as, and we can work together to determine if it falls under that, but it's information generated or derived from the operation or use of an electronic communication device stored insufficient to identify street name and name of the city or town in which the individual is located and information likely to enable someone to determine an individual's regular pattern of behavior. So there are a couple of…"

"…prongs that must be met."

"Well, that kind of begs the question, you know, it's not so much the fact that the data's being collected, it's the data being breached? So, in order for a breach to happen, someone need to… needed to have broke into the system of Verizon, AT&T, whoever your phone provider is to get that information. So, if that's limited to that information, the consumer still should have a right to know someone has broken into what I believe…"

"…was a private and confidential…"

"…information. Well, there is no harm analysis, actually, in the Illinois current Personal Information Protection statute…"

"…and this does not add it."

"So, you know, I'm going to disagree with you about harm because I think this is where we get to that philosophical disagreement. Many people… I think harm is in the eye of the beholder. Maybe it wouldn't bother someone for… you know, it wouldn't bother you to have someone hack into everywhere you were for the last 48 hours, but maybe you'd be concerned if your 15-year-old daughter's location was, you know, publically hacked into and available. So I think there's sensitive information, there's personal 09900057.docx 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 information. You know, a data compiler, it's amazing what they collect. They collect and provide profiles, they know what you bought at the CVS…"

"…they know everywhere you're at. If you're…"

"…a psychiatrist, it's unlimited."

"It must…"

"Yeah."

"It all is tied to the name. So your name has to be… everything we're talking about must be associated with the name, the personal name of the individual."

"You know, as we read in the legislative intent, it does not. So this is stuff like fingerprints we're looking to impact. So not video, audio recordings, or photographs. They're not included. And that was a legislative intent we just read with Ms. Burke." 09900057.docx 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Well…"

"Okay. Yeah, and just looking again, the definition of unique biometric data is 'data generated from measurements or technical analysis of human body characteristics'. That's much different."

"Well…"

"Okay. And if someone broke into your phone company and hacked that data, you don't think that's important for people to know?"

"Again, you know, there's no…"

"…harm analysis."

"There's no need to pose… prove some kind of risk. That's outside the scope of the Bill."

"Well, the AG has a very capable staff and they have not expressed any concern about folding this into their already robust data security and identity theft unit."

"Well, if there's that many data breach, I would argue that the charge of the Attorney General would be to handle those on behalf of Illinois consumers. So, I think they could figure out a way to get it done."

"Mr. Guzzardi." 09900057.docx 89  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I'd like to maybe try to make this personal for my colleagues, those of us here in the chamber. So if you all will just indulge me for one brief moment here. Everyone has an iPhone in this Body. Grab your iPhone, take your iPhone out for a second. Okay, Android folks, we'll figure something else out. But if you have an iPhone, get your iPhone out. In your iPhone, go into the settings and scroll down to privacy. It's got a little hand on it. Seriously, bear with me for just a second, y'all. Settings and then go to privacy. Okay? You'll see location services there. Hit location services. Okay? Scroll on down and you'll find system services. Still with me? Hit frequent locations and all of a sudden you'll see a list of everywhere you've been recently. Tap Springfield, Illinois. There's a map of every location you've been in Springfield, Illinois. It has addresses; it has the times you've been there. Tap on one of them. It’ll say, from 3:28 to 5:26 p.m. yesterday I was at the State Capitol. It will tell you everywhere you've been and when. You guys have it, right? Everybody's iPhone has this data about them recorded on here. Now, this fine… Oh, and your Android phone does too, I promise. This fine Bill is not attempting to say that this kind of collection should be illegal. All it's saying is that if this information is lost and gets into the wrong hands, we ought to know about it. That seems awfully reasonable to me. And I urge an 'aye' vote on this fine piece of legislation. Thank you for your indulgence, Members."

Speaker Lang: "That was fascinating, Representative. Representative Mussman." 09900057.docx 90  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Top that."

"I don't have any theatrics. But I did want to point out, you know, we're talking all this… about the geolocation and whether or not maybe there's going to be a financial risk, but one of the things that I've been thinking about is the idea that your geolocation information can be used to establish location or patterns of your behavior, so in the wrong hands, that could be a problem for acts of stalking, kidnapping, domestic violence. What if I had an order of protection? The idea that that information had been exposed would make me incredibly vulnerable and I would want to know about that. As a parent, I have a child leaving and going to college next year. Again, if his whereabouts have been exposed or it could leave him vulnerable that's something we would want to know. We would want to be able to take precautions. So I'd… I know that this is new territory and there's a lot of work to be done, but I think it's very impressive that the State of Illinois is taking groundbreaking action on this and I'm really excited to support this Bill."

"Representative Wallace."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"So I would guess that Representative Williams is aware that the data sharing industry is worth over $156 billion a year."

"Okay. I… I have no doubt."

"All right. Are you aware of the May 2014 White House report on big data?" 09900057.docx 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"I've read numerous documents in preparation for this discussion, but please enlighten me."

"Well, I just thought I would bring that particular report to light because I think it's very fitting that the State of Illinois would be leading in such a way. The White House report, commissioned of course by our former State Senator Barack Obama, has six recommendations including one that speaks to advance the Consumer Privacy Bill of Rights. There's an aspect of past national data breach legislation just trying to have a national registry for when these breaches occur. There's a look at making sure that the data that we collect on students isn't passed through or, you know, readily available to anyone who wants to see it. To the previous Representative's point, there's a recommendation to expand technical expertise to stop discrimination. And then there's the recommendation to amend the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. How do you see this Bill addressing some of those federal recommendations?"

"You know, I think it comes down to we are accommodating what the concerns are that we've heard on the ground from Illinois consumers, and in many of those areas that you mentioned the consumers have told us they want to do more, they need us to do more. It's amazing the scope of these… of the breaches. I mean, in Illinois alone, the Advocate breach, 3.7 million of 4 million impacted are Illinois residents. The Anthem breach we've heard so much about, 1.7 million Illinois consumers impacted. Target, we… I'm there every week. I was totally a victim of that 2.12 million Illinois consumers. This includes information in the breach that isn't even 09900057.docx 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 covered in the current law but only would be covered in this Act. Home Depot, Nationwide, millions of customers in Illinois and millions more beyond. So again, I think you brought up some excellent points and I believe we will be able to move forward and continue to address this as… as the technology advances."

"Thank you. To the Bill. I think that for some time over the last couple of weeks we've talked about how the State of Illinois measures up on any number of topics and we've actually started to paint ourselves as such a negative or mediocre state. However, we now have the opportunity to lead the nation in protecting our consumers and protecting the citizens of the State of Illinois. I am a mother of a fifth grader. He has an iPhone, I'm in the public sphere. The last thing I would want is for someone to have access to every single place my child has been, every place that he likes to frequent when he's surfing the web. All those pieces of information do not need to be public knowledge in any way. We also have seniors who, for any number of reasons, are starting to access the Internet at greater rates, but they may not always be aware of how to protect themselves and they are looking to… for health insurance, they're looking for whatever discounts they may need and this information is being stored and we need to protect all of our consumers in the State of Illinois. And so with that, I do ask that we do not look at the best interests of the private sector and whatever pop up ads they want to share with us to support their $156 billion industry. We need to think about each and every one of our constituents and how they are all consumers just like 09900057.docx 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 we are and seek to protect them. Thank you very much, Representative Williams, for this important legislation. I encourage an 'aye'…"

"Representative Ives."

"Sponsor yields."

"It's impacted by the state and we did also receive a neutral from the Department of Central Management Services. Again, it's very basic…"

"…whether the government or private sector's compiling it. We're just saying if you collect it, you've got to protect it."

"Yes."

"Yes."

"Yes."

"And also no… no one's mentioned opposition, of those entities." 09900057.docx 94  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"I doubt that they would be."

"Okay. So interestingly, I'm glad you brought up that point. Geolocation data and consumer marketing data probably are not compiled by the state, but just to be sure that they don't fall under those categories, we specifically exempted them from having to cover that sort of information. So they're not impacted by those two categories."

"Well, there's numerous categories of data. But for geolocation and for consumer marketing, I can't imagine in what scenario they would collect and aggregate data on consumer habits, but just to ensure that they weren't impacted by these provisions they were specifically exempted. And therefore, we have no opposition from those state agencies."

"Well, if so, they are not impacted and perhaps a trailer Bill to cover them might be in order if that should occur.”

"But that's not something I would intend to do, but…"

"…if that's something you're interested in." 09900057.docx 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"No, we're really not."

"I don't know what agency of government collects consumer marketing habits and profiles, but if you do, I'd…"

"Absolutely, they're covered."

"They're covered, as you asked in the very beginning of this conversation."

"Government is covered, so we're good."

"Thank you. Yes."

"You're… I agree."

"Okay. Well, they're impacted…" 09900057.docx 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"…and I disagree with your assessment because we can't monitor Federal Law. We don't have the authority to require compliance by the Federal Government, but we do have authority to com… to require compliance by Illinois government, which is what we're doing."

"We are including government." 09900057.docx 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Mr. Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. And I'll be brief, I know we've had a long debate. It's important to know, Illinois was the… will the Sponsor yield, Mr. Speaker?"

"Of course, Sir."

"Ann, isn't it accurate to suggest our statute was the first data breach statute in the United States?"

"In 2005, yes, it was."

"And there's been more model statutes based on our statute in other states as a result of our efforts in 2005, correct?"

"Yeah. And obviously, it's something that continually needs to be updated as more and more data is collected about all of us."

"So, to the Bill. Just take a moment to realize if we… if… if we're the… if Illinois is known as a model statute when it comes to data breach and we all recognize the need to protect data as we modernize technology and give these companies more of our information, it only makes sense for the General Assembly to actually keep Illinois at the head of the curve once in a while. I understand the concerns of the 09900057.docx 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 opponents. Frankly, they don't wish to be blamed for a data breach. We all understand that. That being said, it's our responsibility to have statutes that reflect emerging technology. We've been doing that for the last three years and we should continue to do that. We should continue to modernize good Illinois statutes. This is a good Bill that reflects the hard work of the Sponsor and the Attorney General's Office and it deserves an 'aye' vote. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Can somebody please get that information to Mr. Guzzardi? Representative Williams to close."

"Thank you so much to everyone who's weighed in on this important issue. I really appreciated your… your perspective. Just wanted to say to the… to the companies. This is not designed to be punitive. This is designed with one goal in mind, and that is to protect Illinois consumers. And although the consumer… these companies are saying… some of the companies are saying this is too big of an expansion for data breach notification, I'll tell you what is expanding, and 09900057.docx 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 that is the number of data breaches in Illinois, the amount and the sensitivity of the information that is collected on all of us. It's really, really stunning and if you want to read some articles I've got a big pile and they are disturbing. So, what we're saying here, we're not punishing the companies for collecting it, we're not saying you can't collect it, but if there's a breach, just let us know. Thank you and I appreciate your support."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Cabello, Stewart, Thapedi. Please take the record. There are 63 voting 'yes', 52 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, Rules Report."

"Mr. Brown is recognized."

"The record with reflect his absence, Sir."

"The House will be in recess to the call of the Chair. Mr. Clerk, Supplemental Calendar #1, Senate Bills- Second Reading, Senate Bill 33. Please read the Bill." 09900057.docx 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 507, Mr. DeLuca. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. On page 6 of the Calendar, under the Order of House Bills-Second Reading, there appears House Bill 3219, Mr. Zalewski. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Zalewski on Amendment 4."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Sorry to hold you up. We… Senate… House Floor Amendment #4 becomes the Bill. It deals with this issue of a pilot program for locking caps along with some continuing legal education for pharmacy technicians. I wish to adopt the Amendment and discuss the Bill on Third Reading."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 3219 is an initiative we've been trying to do as an addition to the Chair's herculean efforts on reducing opioid abuse. This is a way for the free market to assist with that by allowing for a pilot program to see if retailers are interested in rebating the purchase of opioid abuse deterrents. This is purely a pilot program designed to be purely voluntary. There's no mandates here. It also deals with pharmacy continuing education for pharmacy technicians. I know the department's concerned about the issue of how we're going to pay for this. Our expectation is the Senate will address some of these issues with respect to either subject to appropriation language or something along those lines. I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. McAuliffe."

"Sponsor yields."

"Correct."

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"Leader Currie."

"Question of the Sponsor."

"Sponsor yields."

"So, in earlier versions, both Medicaid clients and Medicare clients were left out of the provisions of this Bill. Is that still true?"

"Yes."

"I guess my… my concern is this. If it's good to protect people who are not recipients of Medicaid or Medicare, how can we say to those who are on Medicaid or Medicare, we're not going to protect you? I think this Bill is flawed and I think that it is a mistake to say that some classes of patient deserve special safety considerations and the rest do not."

"Barbara, I truly wish we could address that concern. As you know, Medicaid and Medicare are not programs… well, Medicaid more than Medicare are not programs flush with cash right now. So we're… the line item for opiate abuse back in the budget, we're… the Medicaid program running on full cylinders, I'm certain that we could get more of these population that you rightfully are concerned about. I think my response to you is, given it's a pilot program and given the need to see if the market will respond to these deterrents, I'd like to just try to see if will work out."

"Well I just… I feel very uncomfortable about us saying as a Body that these kinds of patients can be protected and the other kind can’t, particularly as the other kind include the people, the Medicaid clients that we have particular 09900057.docx 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 responsibility for. So for that reason, I will not support this Bill."

"Thank you, Leader."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Certainly will do that, Sir."

"Yes, Sir."

"No, we're going to let the Senate address the concerns of the department. My… my confidence lies with the department coming up with a solution that makes them more comfortable with the current language."

"I mean, respectfully, Ron, if the… if the department chooses to not… I don’t… I don't feel comfortable telling you that the department is going to… is… be compelled to fund this if we don't address their concerns in the Senate, is the way I would say that."

"Correct." 09900057.docx 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"I have had conversations with them expressing their concerns on funding. My commitment to them was, given the time constraints and given that I'm a little nervous that we're not going to finish on May 31, that we will resolve this in short order one way or the other."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

"Gentleman yields."

"Now, Representative, how are you?"

"I'm good, Mary."

"Great. So now, what is this Bill…"

"Thank you for asking." 09900057.docx 105  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"…well, right. Thank you for answering. What does this Bill do?"

"What we want to do, Mary, is create a pilot program where retailers can do a rebate program so that if a person chooses to purchase what's called a locking cap, which is a… it's a device where you can protect your prescription from someone else opening it, that you can fund… they get a coupon for a separate dollar rebate and we try to incentivize the market to produce more abuse deterrents."

"Well, Representative, we are trying to protect the prescription?"

"And the person who's taking the prescription and the person who may be addicted to opioids."

"So, are we… are we discriminating against the person if they're… if they're on Medicaid, do they not need the protection?"

"Mary, I mentioned this to the Majority Leader. I would love for this to be covered by Medicaid. I think you'd frankly, respectfully see my colleagues on the other side of the aisle tell you that the Medicaid program, right now, as it exists, can't absorb additional costs. We just heard the esteemed Floor Leader tell us he's worried about the budget. So to add the Medicaid component to it is, frankly, for a pilot program, gives me great discomfort."

"Well… no. Representative, you refer to the previous speaker. I'm not worried about the budget because I know if we really want to fix this budget we would do a financial transaction tax, we would put a period right there. And so until such time we have that discussion, the rest of it is 09900057.docx 106  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 just a whole lot of hot air. But let's get back to this prescription and this safety cap."

"Yes, Ma'am."

"I'm talking about the elderly, I'm talking about the poor people that have children who need these caps on their prescription drugs as well. Now, you're not asking me and you don't want me to support discrimination, do you?"

"No, Ma'am."

"Okay. So I will not be supporting this Bill, not unless you're going to change it."

"I think we're going to change it in the Senate, Mary. But I… I'd love to…"

"You think?"

"I'd love for you… we are going to change it in the Senate, but…"

"Oh, so…"

"…I'd love for you to support my Bill."

"Okay. So you are giving me your word that this Bill will be changed in the Senate…"

"Absolutely."

"…to do what?"

"One hundred percent."

"Tell me what it's going to do so I can have a good understanding of the…"

"We want to make sure… wait, one moment, Mary. I want to get this right."

"Okay."

"So, if the… so, what I'm told, the way to address your concern, Mary, is to say this in the Senate, that if the 09900057.docx 107  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 doctor doesn't feel that the cap will benefit the patient or that their senior citizen on Medicaid or Medicare, the doctor can write the script to make sure that the cap is not on the bottle."

"I'm sorry. Explain that again."

"Is your concern that we want to have more people use the caps? I'm not sure… I want to make sure I understand what you want done in the Senate."

"Let… let me explain to you what I want."

"Okay."

"What I want is for a family member who may have teenagers or young people in their home and they want to… since they cannot put a lock on the medicine cabinet, they have a lock on the prescription. So the person that's purchasing that prescription knows better than the pharmacists or the doctor what he or she need in their home. So if I go to pick up my prescription and I'll tell the pharmacists, by the way, give me one of those lock caps."

"You have to buy one right now. And what this does is it lets you get a $10 coupon."

"Well, if I'm on Medicaid, my insurance is buying it. Insurance, Affordable Care Act, everybody's insured, you remember."

"I do, but I… Mary, I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I'm not sure what you want me to say."

"Oh, this… I'll tell you. Listen. Listen."

"Okay."

"I'm the customer… I'm the customer…"

"Okay." 09900057.docx 108  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"…and I know the children that I have in my house and so I am going to request the lock cap. Because if this is a pilot program, who do you want… who are you piloting it for? People that…"

"The people…"

"…don’t need it?"

"…the people that… we want the market… we want the market to incentivize the use of the cap. So we want… what happened at Mar… I'll tell…"

"But if you…"

"…you what happened at… I'll tell you what happened at Mariano's. At Mariano's, when you went to buy this cap they gave you a $10 rebate coupon and you got $10 off the price of the cap, which was… they were $8. You got $8 off the price of the $8 cap, so you basically got the cap for free."

"And…"

"That's the goal of the pilot program to have more stores like Mariano's do that."

"So, are you saying that Mariano's will discriminate against me because I'm picking up my prescription from Mariano's with my Medicaid card?"

"No."

"Will you say that Mariano's is discriminating against me because I don't have the silver or the gold, I just have the bronze?"

"No."

"So, why is it that when I take my Medicaid card to Mariano's and say I want the cap with the lock on it. If it's 09900057.docx 109  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 a pilot program we do want to know if this lock is going to work, right?"

"Right."

"And if you never have anyone to challenge it and you just have people buying the cap with the lock on it and, you know, they know to lock it and unlock it, but we want to make sure that the kids and the teenagers do not have access to the prescription drugs, right?"

"Right."

"So that's how we're going to know if the pilot program is working, not because we got the prescription and we're sitting it on the shelf and we're just going to lock it and unlock it when we need it. It's when someone else that shouldn't be getting it is trying to get it. We'll know if it's successful or not, right?"

"Right."

"So now, what I would like to do is be able to take my Medicaid card to Mariano's or any other drug store or grocery store that's selling drugs and they cannot discriminate, again, because of the Affordable Care Act…"

"So you… you would like language dealing with antidiscriminatory policies regarding patients with Medicaid and Medicare cards?"

"According to the… according to the Affordable Care Act, you cannot discriminate."

"You have my word we'll… that we'll pass that along to the Senate." 09900057.docx 110  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"According to the Affordable Care Act, you cannot discriminate. So, you… and I… can you just repeat that again, please?"

"You have my word we will pass that request along to the Senate and ask that they put that in the Bill."

"And so, but what if… what if the Senate…"

"I won't concur if it's not in the Bill."

"Oh, okay. Well, you have my vote. Thank you, Sir."

"Thank you, Mary."

"We done thanking each other? Mr. Hays."

"Sponsor yields."

"We would… we would suggest, Chad, that the goal here is to… for a prototypical patient that wishes to see their opioids in this bottle not be abused that they have the option to advan… make themselves… make these caps available to us through a rebate program. So we want the markets to address opioid abuse. You know, again, the Chair had a Bill yesterday that was the… was sort of the… our way of cracking down on heroin abuse and opioid abuse. What I think is like a chaser to his Bill is the market saying, we want to fix this problem too. We want… we want innovation in our technology to deal with these issues. So we're going to create new models for this and one way to create a new model and to sustain it is for retailers to want to use it. And the way retailers will want to use it is for us to try to get a rebate program going, ergo the pilot program."

"Pray… pray thee… pray thee the pilot program."

"If they're confused about their combination?" 09900057.docx 112  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Sure."

"Mr. Speaker, I'm having a hard time hearing, Chad."

"Please hold the noise down. Mr. Hays, please talk louder."

"Yeah."

"No, no, no."

"Okay."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Speaker. Question of the Sponsor."

"Sponsor yields." 09900057.docx 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 Harris, D.: "Representative, should I take any offense that you called our Floor Leader esteemed?"

"I… I can't assign his offense taken." Harris, D.: "Okay. Thank you. A question on the Bill. Are these locking bottle caps, are they readily available? I mean, are they… I've never seen one. Are they readily available in the marketplace by different manufacturers?"

"I used to have… I used to have one at my desk. Yes, they're readily available. They were sold at Mariano's. They were successful. So what…" Harris, D.: "Well…"

"…we said was, let's expand the reach of this technology to different retailers." Harris, D.: "So the… so an individual can buy one for private use now. What you're recommending here with this Bill that there be a pilot project that the pharm…"

"Rebate… would rebate the use so that we could expand existing… a new opioid deterrent technology to a broader market. ‘Cause Mariano's isn't in every market. Let's face it, not everybody has a Mariano's." Harris, D.: "No. No. I understand."

"We want Jewel, we want Target, we want Sam's to use these caps." Harris, D.: "I'm not so much concerned with the… with the retail end as I am the… the company or companies that make them, if there's enough competition that there could be multiple suppliers of these bottles?"

"That's a good question. What I would say to you is, I think as we see successful opioid deterrent products like 09900057.docx 114  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 this, maybe, just maybe, different companies will say, hey, look, there's a real market here for this." Harris, D.: "Okay."

"Let's enter the market and let the market deter opioid abuse." Harris, D.: "And… and I'm unfamiliar with the medications. Would it be unusual for a patient to get multiple types of opioids at the same time?"

"I don't think so, David. My assumption is an opioid is a pain killer or antidepressant, something that's high octane and I don't think you get more than one type when you have this prescription." Harris, D.: "Okay. The reason I ask is because if there were multiple ones that a person who was fumbling with medication, needing medication might not remember combinations or how to get into the bottle or something."

"No, that… well, that's a… not remembering the combination is a legitimate concern. What I would say to you is, the pharmacists… we've tried to work extensively with the pharmacists and as it exists, they're… they don't have any opposition to the Bill. So, if… our hope is… and then in the Senate we're going to deal with the concerns of the doctors who will say let's not… let's make sure if I don't want my patient worrying about this, then I'm going to write it over the script and say don't let them have a cap." Harris, D.: "Understand, you can handle that on the script. But let me finish with that one last question. What happens if a… a patient, a person who has received this prescription, what happens if they forget the combination? What…" 09900057.docx 115  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"My understanding is they can call the pharmacist and the pharmacist will have the combination." Harris, D.: "So they have to call the pharmacist and track down that prescription? Thank you very much."

"Representative Willis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Mike, so the person that gets the prescription, they can say they don't want it or they do want the locking?"

"Yeah, there is no mandate here, Kathy."

"Okay."

"It's totally… it's a rebate program. You can… you…"

"And currently…"

"…you go and you get a coupon. It's like going to Menards and they have those rebate cards. The goal here is to say, you get the prescription, you buy the cap, and if you apply for a rebate you get it."

"So basically, we're looking to have no additional cost to get your prescription filled."

"Yeah. There shouldn't… there shouldn’t…"

"That's what we're hoping to have happen."

"This will… this will not affect prescr… prescription prices."

"Okay. And hopefully with having more manufacturers take this on getting more locking caps that might be able to even decrease the price for the locking caps so that maybe, in an ideal world, that rebate would go down lower than, like you said, currently at Mariano's it's $8 if you choose to get a 09900057.docx 116  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 locking cap on. We're looking at a rough price of about $10 on the rebate, is that correct?"

"Yeah. It’s my… that's my… I think it's… I think it's about one off. I think it's $8, $8.”

“Okay.”

“That's the way it's designed for."

"Great. And then, the final thing. We're looking at this to be a pilot program for one year?"

"Yes."

"And the maximum cost to it, I believe I saw on the Bill…

"A hundred and fifty thousand."

"…is a hundred and fifty thousand? So if we do have a huge kick off that $180 thousand would be… we'd stop the rebates at a hundred and fifty thousand?"

"Yeah. That would be the intent of myself."

"Okay, great. I think this is, you know, as you stated… to the Bill. This follows very much along what our intent is with House Bill 1. We need to do something to protect our young people from getting a hold of medications that are not meant for them. Oftentimes, we do have family members that know that there's a problem in the household and a good way to help secure that, but not have to be afraid of taking their own medication that is rightly prescribed for them. So I would strongly urge an 'aye' vote on this pilot program. Let's see how it goes and give it its best shot. Thank you."

"Mr. Batinick."

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"They're the manufacturer of the device."

"Not… I don't know enough to answer that question."

"I don't know… I don't know if they're the exclusive marketer of it or not."

"Well, that would probably run afoul of special legislation. The Bill says… I'm pulling up the language here. It says a… a medical locking closure package means any alpha- numeric combination locking closure mechanism that can only be unlocked with a user-generated code. So, any manufacturer is free to make this device."

"I believe so, but I don't know… I don't want to say that for sure because they may have a competitor that…"

"Mr. Martwick."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, you know, this is an ongoing… I mean, I'm probably not telling anyone anything they don't already know. This is to address a problem that we currently have. Is this the perfect solution? I don't know. That's why it's a pilot 09900057.docx 118  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 program. What I do know is that Representative Zalewski worked very, very hard with all of the interested parties, constantly meeting with them trying to address their concerns. There was a companion Bill to this. It was my Bill and it would have been an outright requirement of the use of these devices. This is a far better solution. He has worked hard to remove the opponents to the Bill, to find a way that we can begin to look as a pilot program to see if this is a possible solution to a problem that's going on in our society. We need to curb the abuse of prescription medications, of hydrocodones, and opioids to try and stem the use of heroin in our state. This is a good Bill; it's a good pilot program. Please vote 'yes'."

"Mr. Demmer."

"Sponsor yields."

"No, we have not. I want more debate, Tom."

"I… I make no… Tom, I'm fully aware of your concern. As I told the Floor Leader, I'd love to… I'd love to think we're going to be done here Saturday or Sunday. I'm not naive enough to think that's true. So, my sense is, I'd like to see progress on this issue one way or the other. You have my word that I won't move to concur in an Amendment in the Senate unless we have some sort of agreement here. So, there's a lot of moving parts in this Bill. My feeling is, this is an important issue. We have momentum with opioid deterrents, so 09900057.docx 119  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 I want to move a Bill and try to get it out of the House at least."

"I get it."

"I understand, Tom."

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Will the… will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Z, what's the bottle made out of? Is… can somebody…"

"It looks like a… it looks like a regular pill… I wish I had it. It's in my office."

"Right, but can somebody run over it? I mean, if somebody really wants to get to the drugs, they're going to get to the drugs…"

"Staff's going to…"

"…regardless of what the cap has."

"…staff's going to go get you a… staff's going to go get me one."

"Right, but you understand my issue there, right?"

"Hopefully there's some Tylenol in there."

"And then being me, and I'm part of the… one of the caucuses that Ms. Wheeler over there started, you know, I forget stuff. So me forgetting what the lock number is on it is highly likely, okay?"

"Yeah." 09900057.docx 120  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

Chapa LaVia: "And nowadays, everybody, the pharmaceutical companies right now are working really hard on R&D and providing opiates and other very addictive prescriptions on how you can't break them up, how you can't shoot them up in your veins, how you can't snort them, how they're time released. You can have it, but there's no instant gratification. There's so much stuff going on today that I think that, I… although I understand, you know, the task force that you guys have worked on, I think this needs just a little bit more vetting. I understand what you're trying to do, but if someone really wants to get into that bottle, they're going to get into that bottle. So, I'll listen to the rest of debate, but I'll probably be a 'present' or a 'no'."

"You've heard all the debate. Mr. Zalewski to close."

"I… I think that you've heard a healthy debate. This is just a pilot program to incentivize use. It's an individual choice. Please vote 'aye'."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Evans, Wehrli. Please take the record. On this question, there are 69 voting 'yes', 42 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Brady is recognized."

"Proceed, please." 09900057.docx 121  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Congratulations. Thank you for your service to the State of Illinois."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Oh, excuse me."

"Sorry, Sir."

"Congratulations. Mr. Brady, have you posted the two job openings?"

"Resumes will be delivered to Mr. Brady's desk. Mr. Sandack." 09900057.docx 122  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Welcome. Chair recognizes Leader Currie for a Motion."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. I move to suspend the posting requirements so that Senate Bill 2034 can be heard in the Appropriations-General Services Committee. The same with Senate Bill 2035. Again, Senate Bills 2029 and 2030 to be heard in Appropriations-Higher Education. Senate Bills 2036 and 37 in the Appropriations-Human Services Committee. Senate Bill 2031 and Senate Bill 2032 and Senate Bill 2033 in Appropriations-Public Safety. And in Environment Committee, Senate Bill 1672. And in the House Human Services Committee, Senate Joint Resolution 27. I know of no opposition. I'd be grateful for your support."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Mr. Franks. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 69 voting 'yes', 45 voting 'no'. And the Lady's Motion prevails. The posting notices are 09900057.docx 123  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 waived. Under the Order of Resolutions, on Supplemental Calendar #1, there appears House Resolution 540, Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. It has been the practice in this establishment for… if someone were to file a Motion to reconsider a vote that that Motion, generally, if they decide they want to withdraw it that they would just go to the Clerk and say so, write it down, and they're all finished. But in fact, what our Rules say is you're supposed to make the Motion to Table the Motion to reconsider from the House Floor. So this proposed change would say, no, you don't have to make the Motion on the House Floor. You can fill in the paperwork and that will accomplish your purpose. So I think that we ought to adopt this Rule because it actually comports with past practices. It's only lately we realized that past practices didn't comport with the House Rules."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Lady yields."

"This often happens with House Rules."

"I certainly have no such intention, today."

"Yes. Oh, this is not unusual. And really…"

"…and truly what it is is figuring out that the Clerk's Office was not following the Rule that brought this to our attention."

"So, I have no intention… I have no intention of filing Motions to reconsider on any of the Bills that I'm sponsoring."

"No."

"Well…" 09900057.docx 125  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"…well, I… I don't…"

"…I don't… yeah, I…"

"…I don't think…"

"Well, I'd wish you…"

"Well, I wish you had a brighter sunnier disposition and didn't go around with that suspicious scowl on your forehead."

"But let me just say that this is a Rules change."

“This is… this is a Rule…"

"This is a Rules change to empower the Members, to make life easier for the Members, and certainly on behalf of the Members on my side of the aisle…"

"…I'm going to vote 'yes'…"

"…and I hope you'll do the same for yours."

"In which case, this is a really important Rule change."

"Mr. Franks."

"Yeah. Yeah, first of all, parliamentary inquiry. Can we switch one Sandack for the other? I'm just wondering if we could do that, 'cause he's a nice guy up there. But…"

"What happened to your voice, Mr. Franks?"

"I don't know."

"We're all pleased."

"I bet. I bet. Thank you. Thank you. To the Lady's Motion. I understand what the previous speaker had said and certainly I've been skeptical of the Rules and have criticized the Rules. But this is a Rule change that I believe is necessary. I can tell you, last week, I had utilized this Rule improperly because we had not changed the Rule as the Lady suggests we do today. I had filed a Motion to reconsider and I had pulled it… done it just by a voice Motion. This would codify that procedure so… procedure so we could do that. I don't see any nefarious intentions. I know that we've had a number of 09900057.docx 127  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 Motions to reconsider already this year and I think it's appropriate that we follow the Rules properly. And that's why I'd encourage everyone to vote 'aye'."

"Leader Currie to close."

"Thank you. It's a good change. It is a change that will help each and every Member in this chamber. And I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Resolution will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? DeLuca. Please take the record. On this question, there are 69 voting 'yes', 45 voting 'no'. And the Resolution is adopted. Members, we're moving to page 14 of the Calendar, under the Order of Senate Bills-Second Reading, there appears Senate Bill 51, Mr… Excuse me. Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. I move that we adopt the Amendment and then debate the Bill on Third Reading."

"I didn't ask the Clerk to read the Bill. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

Speaker Lang: "The Lady already made her comments on the Amendment. Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you. This is a budget implementation Bill. We have four of them today. And what this does is as we always do with the budget is make statutory changes so that the budget that we have adopted can be spent in the ways we've asked agencies to do so. So the Bill, among other things, extends the sunset on the Renewable Energy, Energy Efficiency, and Coal Resources Development Law until December 2020 from where it is today, December 12, 2015. We also create a Coal Mining Land Conservation and Reclamation Fund which would mean a transfer of money monthly from the Coal Technology Development Assistance Fund to the new fund, it's about $4 million annually. The oil and gas people are of the view that they would be better served by quicker permitting, quicker implementation of their requests for permits than they would be under the current program which may provide them grants. We're transferring $10 million from general revenue to the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum Operating Fund. That's exactly what we did in fiscal '15, the current fiscal year. We're authorizing the Criminal Justice Information Authority to issue grants under the Illinois Youthbuild Act. Currently, it's the Department of Human Service that does that, but what this change will do will mean that you'll have a very clear, straightforward 17 point application process so money that we earlier spent through DHS will be spent through ICJIA and we'll have a really strong 09900057.docx 129  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 handle on accountability and transparency. We're giving the State’s Attorney Appellate Prosecutor Office greater transferability because with flat funding there is a concern about their ability to pay for professional services. We also make changes, as we do every year, from various state funds to the Professional Services Fund. Agencies owe CMS, this means that the CMS totals can be paid. The same thing with respect to the Workers' Compensation Revolving Fund. There's also a transfer from a variety of funds within the Secretary of State's Office to go to their security and theft prevention fund. We're setting the personal income tax refund rate at 10 percent, exactly what it is in the current year. And for the corporate tax, we go to 16 and a half percent, which is actually up 2 and a half percent from what we do now. We did major changes in grant accountability and transparency. The agencies have been slow to make that program operable and what this does is transfer money from the fund for Illinois future so that we're ready to develop the program and make it work in a year’s time. And then finally, we make sure that the people in Cook County who perform similar functions to the regional superintendents will be paid from that line, as the regional superintendents and their assistants are paid today. I'd be happy to answer your questions."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Bourne, Bryant, Drury, Sente. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 66 voting 'yes', 44 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 274. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you. I move adoption of Amendment 2. And again, I hope we can adopt the Amendment and then discuss the Bill on Third Reading."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. The… the Bill would… would create a Veteran… Veteran's Home Fund. All the money for the individual funds would be in one central location. We would also codify stat… make statutory a current regulation that provides that 09900057.docx 131  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 the rate pay to health care employees is at least a $1.61. If the agency employer actually provides health care, as we do every year for cash flow reasons, we're transferring $80 million from general revenues to the Tobacco Settlement Recovery Fund. That money will be paid back, but the schedule is different. We also establish what kind of eligibility there is for the state's child care program. Again, I'd be happy to answer your questions."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Lady yields."

"All this says is that if the employer is providing health care that the worker will have an enhanced rate because they'll be being charged for the health care."

"Well, we didn't do that in this Bill. You're welcome to introduce legislation along that lines if you'd like."

"I have no idea."

"But he… his office is right over there if you might want to go knock on his door and ask. Or you…" 09900057.docx 132  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"…could just wait and see."

"Representative Wallace."

"Thank you. I just have a general question, but I guess I'll ask it of the Sponsor."

"Sponsor yields."

"Sponsor yield? My general question is this. I continue to hear about this $4 billion hole in the spending plan that we've put forth. And so I'm wondering what… what would have been the revenue should our income tax not roll… should it have not rolled back to 3.75 percent? What would be the amount of revenue raised by that?"

"Something more than 2 billion. But we will have, I'm sure, discussions about revenue. Many of us believe that the budget that was proposed at the beginning of the year is not adequate to meet the needs of the people and that the only responsible budget would be one that includes cuts, but also new sources of revenue."

"And I thank you for that. Encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Sente, Thapedi. Please take the record. On this question, there are 65 voting 'yes', 46 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, 09900057.docx 133  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 842. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you. I move adoption of the Amendment and I hope we can discuss the Bill on Third."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. There are three pension provisions in this Bill and what they do is that… that GRF contributions in 2011 were shifted from individual agencies to a lump sum continuing appropriation. We would continue that practice so it doesn't look as if all of a sudden all the agencies have a whole lot more money. Second, there was a requirement in 2011 that State Pensions Fund be… that the contributions from the State Pensions Fund should be in addition to certified contributions, but the ‘bimps’ in the last several years delayed this provision until fiscal year 2016. If we continue the practice, it means that 09900057.docx 134  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 we can avoid $190 million pressure on General Revenue Funds. And finally, there is some lack of clarity over whether when a local pension… public pension… pension have… has not been properly met whether the state has the ability to divert state funds to local employers if the employer doesn't make the required pension payment. So this has been historically in place, but the Comptroller said that she's not sure that the provision is enforceable. So we clarify that IMRF, downstate police and fire, Cook County Pension Fund, Cook County Forest Preserve, Chicago Park District, Metropolitan Water Reclamation District and the Chicago Transit Authority would all be subject to the same… the same interference. Happy to ans…"

"Mr. Sandack."

"Leader yields."

"My understanding is that as the city was just recently downgraded to junk bond status…"

"…there would be a concern if we added new language that might put pressure on the city's pension funds."

"Representative, this is the Bill that I am presenting."

"And as I understand it, there was a concern expressed by the good people who run the City of Chicago and we exceeded to their request."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Ammons, Hurley. Please take the record. There are 65 voting 'yes', 48 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1334. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Turner."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to adopt Floor Amendment… hold on one second. Okay, Floor Amendment #3. And 09900057.docx 136  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 Floor Amendment #3, I believe, specifically deals with… Out of the record, please, Mr…"

"All right. The Bill will be out of the record. Mr. Clerk, Senate Bill 1354. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you. I move adoption of the Amendment and discussion on Third Reading."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. This would provide that there is a transfer of $6 million to the State Crime Laboratory Fund in order to clean out the more than 14 thousand case backlog within the crime lab. This is really important information. We've got to make sure that rape kits and all of the other things that come to the crime lab are properly analyzed. In addition to giving the crime lab more resources, we are requiring very extensive reporting from the 09900057.docx 137  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 crime lab to us as… with respect to the number of cases, where they are with them, the number of new samples, and so forth. This provision expires in two years, but it's important that we get to the bottom of the backlog. Secondly, we're transferring money, as we always do, from the Motor Fuel Tax Fund to the Vehicle Inspection Fund for those counties and portions of counties that are under federal Clean Air Act requirements to do vehicle emissions inspections. This is how we pay for it. We also permit the State Depart… Department of State Police to spend from their Traffic and Criminal Conviction Surcharge Fund on any legitimate lawful State Police function, not just those that have to do with law enforcement training. And then finally, we transfer some money from the Law Enforcement Camera Grant Fund to another fund within the… the LETSB appropriation line to give them the appropriation authority that they need. And finally, it authorizes IDOT to provide Amtrak with rail subsidies for up to 42 million in fiscal year 16, same amount that we provided for in fiscal '15. I'd be happy to answer your questions. I need your support for this Bill."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Ammons. Please take the record. There are 66 voting 'yes', 45 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1304. Please read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Sims."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Floor Amendment #1 includes the provisions of the comprehensive police reform and police body camera Bill. I'd like to adopt the Amendment and debate it on Third."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Sims."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. What you have before you is a historic piece of legislation. This piece of legislation allows Illinois to be the first in the nation to state… have a statewide implementation of body cameras. You also have before you a piece of legislation that does a number of things to deal with police reform and police accountability. What we'd like… what we're trying to do in this piece of legislation is increase the… the trust that the customers, i.e., the citizens of our state, have in our government. What we have are individuals out there on… patrolling our streets. Police officers who are doing a wonderful job. And we are trying to make sure that we recognize the work that they do while at the same time ensuring that the public feels safe. This Bill is a result of bipartisan negotiations, bipartisan discussions with both… both the House and the Senate to put together a comprehensive piece of legislation that does a number of things. One, put in place a set of protocols for when you can and cannot turn the camera on and off. Two, establish the reporting requirements for when… for what… what the… what individual departments are going to put into place and turn into the State Depa… State Department of Public Police. Independent investigations of police reform… or police officer involved shootings and on, and on, and on. Mr. Speaker, this is a great piece of legislation. I ask for its favorable acceptance and answer any questions." 09900057.docx 140  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, first of all, I want to congratulate you. This is a great piece of legislation…"

"Thank you, Representative."

"…and I know you've worked very hard on it. The one question I had, I got a call from my state’s… state’s attorney yesterday and he was concerned… I was just trying to read the language in the Bill dealing with who would have standing to ask for a special prosecutor. ‘Cause it says in our analysis that it would be an interested party, but I'm not sure what that means. Can you please, for legislative intent, tell us your idea of the special prosecutors and who would have standing to ask for it?"

"Well, what that provision allows for, Representative, is any interested party, whether that is the court on its own motion or an individual who is the subject of the… of the investigation or the subject of the proceeding, whether it be civil or criminal, to then… to seek to have the court appoint a special prosecutor. If there's an… what we… what we generally, at the request of Leader Durkin and some of the Members on the other side of the aisle, what we put into the language we adopted and made a change that the state’s attorneys were looking for to address actual conflicts. So, what we… what we're try… if there is… any individual can petition the court if they believe there's an actual conflict between the state’s… with another state’s attorney." 09900057.docx 141  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Would the individual have to have been the victim, or could it be any… anybody who's a resident of the State of Illinois?"

"Anyone who is a party to the proceeding. So, if you are… if you are a party to the proceeding, i.e., if the… if there is an allegation made by… by an individual against the department, they have standing."

"Okay. Well, I appreciate the answers and perhaps we'll see how this works and if we need to tweak it later, we can. But I wanted to… to figure out what you were going with. And again, I applaud you for your efforts."

"Thank you, Representative. We appreciate that."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, I, too, would like to commend you on doing such a fantastic job in bringing forth this legislation. And quite frankly, the Bill has more than just body camera involved in the legislation, am I correct?"

"Yes, you are."

"So, just as a point of clarification, can you help me, please? Can you elaborate on some of the eavesdropping clarification that's in the legislation?"

"Thank you so much for that question, Representative. There were… after we passed our historic landmark eavesdropping law recently, there were questions raised by the general public about when they could and could not record police officers. We specifically put into this Bill that no law enforcement officer could prohibit nor could they confiscate a recording 09900057.docx 142  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 medium that an individual uses to record a police officer during the course of their on duty activities. Now, that is different from if the police officer is on his personal time or has a reasonable expectation of privacy. But if he is on duty, he has no reasonable expectation of privacy, and we put that clarification into this law."

"Thank you very much. And to another point, there was a couple articles in the Chicago Tribune in regards to the random stops by the Chicago Police officer and how the stops were on the south side of the City of Chicago and the high number of DUIs was on the northwest side. And in your Bill you talk of the traffic stops and the tickets. Can you elaborate on that, please?"

"Yes, Ma'am."

"And… and are the traffic stops a violation of the Fourth Amendment in the Constitution?"

"Well, I don't belie… let me start with the last one first. I don't believe traffic stops are a violation of the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution."

"If it's discriminatory and if they don't have probable cause?"

"Well, I think… I think that… I think that's a question of fact…"

"Okay."

"…not a question of circumstance. But I would say what we have included, we have included an extension of our racial profiling study to include pedestrian stops. Currently, under current law, we have a traffic stop study that tracks individuals and the demographic information of individuals 09900057.docx 143  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 who are stopped for traffic tickets. We have expanded that study to include pedestrian stops and we've also added a requirement, if an individual is detained. So, if you are frisked, if you are searched, if you are arrested, then you are entitled to have information about that pros… about why you were stopped, and the name of the officer who stopped you, and his… copy of his badge number and a receipt is then given to the individual, that citizen."

"Now, what if I don't want to wait around until the police finish doing his paperwork on the reason why he stopped me?"

"If… we built into this language, if the officer… or if the citizen does not wish to accept the ticket, then he is free to go if… as long as he is not under arrest."

"What about the Section dealing with the officer conduct database?"

"Again, another wonderful question, Representative. What we've tried to do is put into place, the first of its kind, a database where officers who have engaged in activities that have led to their dismissal or if they have resigned und… during the pendency of an investigation of a Class 2 Felony or higher, we have… we are going to place those… the names of those individuals into a database. So if they wish to look for employment in another department, the Chief Administrative Officer, i.e., the Chief or the highest ranking official or his designee, would have the ability to seek… to go to this database and look at the employee's history. So if he was dismissed or if he just really resigned while during the pendency of investigation." 09900057.docx 144  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Also, under that Section, are we also looking for a pattern of practice in regards to the number of stops that the police officer have made or the indications or complaints? Would we be able to gather that information from this particular Section?"

"No, it… in the… from the traffic stop and pedestrian stop study, yes. If you… if you looked at the current studies, the studies on a monthly basis, individual departments are reporting those statistics to the Department of Transportation currently. So we are expanding those requirements to include pedestrian stops."

"Now, we've heard a lot about the training. Can you elaborate on how the training is going to be carried out? And I notice in the Bill what's missing is the recruitment, because in the consent decree in Cleveland it was more… it was spelled out more clearly that the recruitment had to reflect the diversity of the community in which was being represented. So can… and I know our Bill does not address the recruitment, but can you tell me what you… how you feel that the commission will be addressing this issue, please?"

"Sure. First of all, our… the steps we are taking here today are… we are being proactive, not reactive. I think the decision in Cleveland was… it was a reaction and it was forced upon them by agreement with the U.S. Department of Justice. What we are doing here is we are taking a proactive step to ensure that we have a set of protocols in place and guidelines to ensure that things that are happening around the country do not happen within the borders of the State of Illinois. Then the second question that you raised was about the… was 09900057.docx 145  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 about the training… about the commission. The commission is going to look at issues of police professionalism, and as part of that, we… you'd also have the ability to look at items of part-time police officers, auxiliary police officers, and also issues of recruitment. That commission will be looking at those… at those items. You've got police officers and law enforcement officers from around the state, members of management and labor, Chiefs of Police, the sheriff's departments, local law enforcement officers all who will be able to come together, discuss these issues, including the issues that you raised about issues of recruitment."

"There was an article in today's newspaper about a police officer who's trying to get his job back because of something that he had done. And the last paragraph I found was rather interesting. He was asked to join in this particular photo and did so without exercising proper judgment. And he was quoted to say, and I made a mistake as a young impressionable police officer who was trying to fit in. So how do you think that the commission and… and the… and the police professionalism will address these young recruitees or do you think that we should increase the age limit because this officer is admitting that he was young and he was trying to fit in and so a mistake was made?"

"Well, I think that’s… again, that's a fact-based question germane to that officer and I'm certainly not going to paint all officers with the same brush. And I think that’s part of what we're doing here today is making sure that we are… we are protecting all officers and making sure that the work that the good officers are doing is shining through and making 09900057.docx 146  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 sure that we shine a light on the one… the things that the bad officers are doing. I'm a firm believer that transparency breeds confidence. And what we are trying to do is put transparency and build transparency into this process so that the citizens that we represent will have confidence in that system."

"Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Mr. Speaker, to the Bill. Again, I want to thank Representative for carrying this legislation and to thank him for putting the public safety at ease and moving forward in the right direction because, unfortunately, we have been silent for way too long allowing some of these misdeeds to go on. And in the process, I am reminded of an article that was in the New York Times dated May 7 that reported that we spent over $5 million to set aside for victims of Commander Burge, the things that he had done to numerous people. And since then, we have spent… there's another 500 lawsuits that's pending. And from 2003 to 2012, Chicago has paid out over $63.9 million to private firms to defend the civil right abuse by the police officers. This legislation is not a be all to the end all, but it is a beginning. Again, according to the BGA, they found a total of $521 million has been spent to handle police misconduct. That's education, that's health care, that’s infrastructure, that's a whole lot of things that we could have been doing other than spending it on police misconduct. There is no one out here that's perfect. But again, as I said earlier, we have been too silent for way too long allowing too many people's lives to be disrupted and hurt by what has been going 09900057.docx 147  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 on. And I would appreciate an 'aye' vote. And once again, I want to thank you."

"Mr. Walsh."

"Mr. Speaker, I move to the previous question."

"Gentleman moves that the previous question be put. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the previous question is put. Mr. Sims to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Before I close, let me… let me again thank the Members on both sides of the aisle for the work that they've done to… the work they’ve done to get us to this point. I want to thank in particular Representative Cabello, our Minority Spokesperson on the House Judiciary-Criminal Law Committee, Representative Anthony, who sat in many of those meetings, and the staff, Ashley, on the Republican side who sat in those meetings and did diligent work. But I could not stand here and present this piece of legislation without the young woman who has been here… who's been there through thick and thin with me on drafting, redrafting, and making this… making this possible, making… Kalyn Hill, who’s our staff person on this side of the aisle. I must publicly thank her for all of her hard work, her countless hours… yes, please. Give her a round of applause because she deserves it. As late as this morning, Kalyn was still working through Amendments and drafting and cleaning this up and I… I must thank her for her work. But I've also got to thank law enforcement. The law enforcement community came to the table. They had an open mind. They understood that we needed to get… we need to get reform done, and they participated, and they participated in an open 09900057.docx 148  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 fashion. And also, the community groups. Community groups participated in this discussion. We had them there. They wanted to make sure that the victims, witnesses, and the public was protected. This… a previous speaker mentioned it. This is not the end all be all. This is not… this is not the end. This… no… all of the items in this Bill are not the silver bullet to create and to fix all ills, but Illinois is taking this step that no other state in the union has. And I think the Illinois House of Representatives and the Illinois Senate can be proud of that. We are taking a historic step with this piece of legislation and we are moving this state forward and this is going to be a model for the nation. So I want to publicly thank all of the parties who had a hand in making sure that we got to this point. It… no… no piece… the hallmark of good legislation is that it is never perfect, no one is always… always happy, but we make sure we move the ball forward. And we… that's what we have here, a good Bill. Please vote 'aye'."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Andrade, Cabello, Morrison, Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 102 voting 'yes', 7 voting 'no', 3 voting 'present', And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Leader Turner in the Chair."

"Chair recognizes Representative Reis for a point of per…"

"Please proceed, Representative."

"Chair recognizes Representative Sandack."

"Please proceed, Sir."

"Chair recognizes Representative Kay."

"Chair recognizes Representative Anthony."

"Please proceed, Sir."

"Chair recognizes Representative Cabello."

"Please proceed, Representative."

"Mr. Clerk, Senate Bill 788, Representative Greg Harris. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Harris." Harris, G.: "Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I would like to move to adopt numbers 2 and 4 and then I'll describe what the Bills does." 09900057.docx 152  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Harris." Harris, G.: "No. I… just 2 and 4."

"Gentleman moves to withdrawal Floor Amendment #3. Mr. Clerk."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #4 to Senate Bill 788. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Clerk, Third Reading. Senate Bill 788. Please read that Bill."

"Representative Greg Harris." Harris, G.: "Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this would be the Medicaid omnibus or Medicaid efficiencies package legislation. There are numerous pieces of it, which I will go through as quickly as I can, and I'd be happy to answer any questions. Some of these were initiatives of the Governor's Office and the department. Some were initiatives that came out of other legislation from other Members in the House and 09900057.docx 153  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 the Senate. They've been combined into this one legislation. I would say that, taken together, they would bring in new revenue and pr… and present savings to the people of the State of Illinois of over $400 million within the Medicaid line items. So I'll just quickly go through what is included in this legislation. The first two items were requests of the Governor which is the authority for the Department of Healthcare and Family Services to enter into durable metal… medical equipment supplies contracts. This is essentially competitive bidding to get the best prices and the lowest prices on certain medical commodities which are regularly purchased and utilized by Medicaid patients. The second is a request of the Governor to prioritize, within the Office of the Inspector General, fraud prevention… fraud prevention within the Medicaid program."

"Excuse me, Representative. Members, can we please bring the noise level down in the chamber as well as in the gallery? Shhh. Thank you very much. Representative Greg Harris." Harris, G.: "The next provision is the authorization for one and one… only one freestanding emergency center to take the place of the recently closed Sacred Heart Hospital. The next provision allows auditing of nursing homes under the transition to the RUG methodology to be sure that the State of Illinois is not overpaying, you know, any nursing home vendor and that we're recouping any overpayments that have been made. The next provision is assessments and rate reductions. This is the legislative language… the language that would be required to codify the 2.25 percent reduction 09900057.docx 154  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 in rates that were envisioned in the appropriation Bill for the Department of Healthcare and Family Services. This results in $160 million worth of savings. There are certain lines that are, you know, prohibited by Federal Law from taking reductions. They are not included in this, but all other Medicaid lines would be included. And I would point out that the Hospital Association has proposed and this legislation includes an increase in the hospital assessment that would result in the same savings to the state but would prevent unfortunate cuts to our local hospitals. This Bill reiterates the codification of the deadline period for movement to full capitation for Accountable Care Entities and Coordinated Care Entities, which are more commonly called ACEs and CCEs. It asks the department to file a state plan amendment to fully maximize the additional federal revenue approaching potentially $200 million that could be achieved under the Affordable Care Act. It also requires on… by January 1 of 2017 the department to include quality in the algorithm for auto-enrollment of participants in Medicaid Managed Care. This legislation would require wards of the state to be enrolled in Coordinated Care to maximize savings and reduce costs for the state further within the Department of Children and Family Services. This Bill would provide a mechanism to enhance federal match for those persons who are a resident of SMHRF facilities. It would require the department to publish an easily accessible and publically available managed care policy manual so that its policies and procedures regarding managed care are clear. It would require the department to appeal the denial of the supportive living assessment from 09900057.docx 155  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 the federal CMS. This would allow additional federal dollars to be brought into the state. It would allow nursing home new admit… new residents who are newly admitted to nursing homes to have a Medicaid card. This would ease cash flow problems for Medicaid-based nursing homes. It would be a great boon to them especially those who are… have extended their lines of credit because of the issues in processing long-term care applications in the Department of Human Services. It also has a clawback provision so that, you know, any overpayments that are made or any unauthorized payments that are made are recouped from the nursing homes. It establishes a bipartisan bicameral working group to work on the 1115 waiver process. It also encourages the department to seek further program efficiencies and enhance federal match. The last two provisions are a provision for Bolingbrook Hospital, which is the Illinois Poison Control Center and it gives emergency rule-making to the department to implement these rules. And there is… in the Amendment, as I said in committee, there is an addition that would also address dispensing fees for 340B public health drugs. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Chair recognizes Representative Sandack."

"Chair recognizes Representative Feigenholtz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates that he will."

"Representative Harris, for purposes of legislative intent I would like to ask a question about the ACEs and their 18-month period. Does the Bill extend the original 18-month period for ACEs before they have to move to risk-based payments?" Harris, G.: "Representative, for purposes of legislative intent this Bill simply codifies the initial time period for ACEs that was announced by the Department of Healthcare and Family Services in the fall of 2014 and that the ACEs relied upon in developing their business plans. The original legislation establishing the ACEs provided that the ACEs would be paid a care coordination fee for 'the first 18 months of operations' since HA… since HFS dates to this 18-month period. Since… I'm sorry. Since HFS implemented the program with different start dates around the state, there would have been different dates to this 18-month period. To avoid conclusion and to make the administration more uniform, HFS announced in the fall of 2014 as the implementation details were being finalized that the first 18-month period would begin on January 1, 2015 and end on January 30, 2016. Since the administration has announced its intent to terminate the ACE agreements this 09900057.docx 157  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 summer, this Bill simply codifies the time frame as the program is agreed to by HFS last fall. Most importantly, we believe that the care for the 450 thousand people already being served by the ACEs should not be disrupted."

"Thank you. Also, for purposes of legislative intent, what about the rate reduction and the issue with the MCOs and the rate…" Harris, G.: "Representative Feigenholtz, for purposes of legislative intent, rate reductions outlined in Section 5- 5b.2 in the amount not to exceed 2.25 percent that is calculated and applied to capitation rates to managed care plans. It's intended to include administrative services. It is not the intent of this Section to calculate and apply a separate insect… second rate reduction of 2.25 percent for the administrative portion of that rate."

"Thank you. And finally, on the nursing home portion of this legislation, nursing homes receive funding from both the General Revenue Fund and the Long-term Care Provider Fund. How will the 2.25 percent cut to their GRF line effect how the nursing home rate is calculated?" Harris, G.: "Representative Feigenholtz, for purposes of legislative intent, the rate calculation will still take into account of both funding sources. In calculating this blended rate, the department will establish a rate that produces a savings to the state of an amount no greater than the product of 2.25 percent multiplied by the originally enacted state fiscal 2015 appropriations from the General Revenue Fund."

"When managed care contracts with nursing homes require the facility to receive no less than a nonmanaged 09900057.docx 158  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 care rate in effect at the time the services are provided, how will these changes affect these reimbursement agreements?" Harris, G.: "Representative, for the purpose of legislative intent, changes in the reimbursement schedule for nursing home services should have no affect on managed care contracts. What will change is the floor below which a managed care company cannot reimburse a nursing home."

"Thank you very much, Representative Harris."

"Chair recognizes Representative Bellock."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Chair recognizes Representative Demmer."

"He indicates that he will."

"Chair recognizes Representative Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield." 09900057.docx 169  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Thank you. Representative Harris, I have a few questions about the redetermination. So this Bill takes the redetermination duties away from HFS and requires the department to contract with a third party vendor. Is that correct?" Harris, G.: "No, Representative. You're looking at an Amendment that is not included in this legislation."

"So now, how… what happens now?" Harris, G.: "The status quo prevails. Nothing has changed regarding the redetermination process in this legislation. There is a process that would prioritize, on the back end, a fraud investigation by the Office of Inspector General, but it does not address redetermination."

"So, who… how would HFS contract or will HFS be responsible for redeterminations?" Harris, G.: "The Department of Human Services processes the redeterminations."

"So they will be in charge of the redetermination process?" Harris, G.: "And that would be the process as it is today. Nothing has changed in this legislation."

"So management… the vendors… the management companies will have no influence over the redetermination process? Therefore, we… if I vote for this I don't have to worry about the vendors putting profits over the individual's health?" Harris, G.: "Representative, the process would remain what it is today. And I believe the answer to the question is that while there are third party vendors involved in providing some data software to the redetermination process and also some mailroom operations, only the State of Illinois, only workers 09900057.docx 170  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 of the Department of Healthcare and Family Services can make the actual determinations about the eligibility or ineligibility of a Medicaid recipient."

"Well, since HFS is the only one that could make a determination about the… a recipient's benefit… I asked some questions in committee and I'm still very concerned about the homeless population. The story goes like this. If you're homeless and you are in a shelter or you are living with a relative and your last known address was a place that you no longer live or lay your head, the redetermination letter will go to that address and the patient will no longer receive the mail; therefore, that patient would be discontinued from Medicaid because they never got the letter. Has there been any talk with HFS to reconsider how they deal with the homeless population?" Harris, G.: "If you recall, Representative, a couple weeks ago, probably a couple months ago now, we did have a hearing on the redetermination process and that was a concern that was brought up. And this would be what some people would call Medicaid churn where, you know, people who are eligible to receive Medicaid services for reasons that have to do with, you know, whether they get the mail delivered to the right place, whether they get their documents submitted on time are taken off the rolls and put back on. That's something I think that Director Norwood has said that she and her staff are really going to work hard on. I think the managed care organizations have said they would be willing to accept some of the burden of going out into the community to help outreach to people when their redetermination date comes up once a 09900057.docx 171  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 year and be sure they get their forms in. It's a real problem. And it costs the state money and it's unfair to the people, so I totally agree with you. We need to solve this problem."

"And I would like to say for the record also that… to the Bill. I'd like to say for the record that individuals that are homeless, they are automatically switched to other providers that are not their providers. Therefore, they no longer know where they should go to the doctor because they never received notice that they have been switched and it causes problems. And I urge HFS to do something about the homeless population and the redetermination process for this group of people in our state. Thank you for the Bill, Greg Harris. And I look forward to voting for it."

"Representative Harris to close." Harris, G.: "Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen, for a very good debate. And just to, you know, recapitulate some concepts that came up. This would result in cost savings, it would result in revenue increases, it would help us be sure that we are garnering as much federal match as we could for these programs, it would be a real benefit to nursing homes who have had to wait so long for our bureaucracy to get their residents payments processed, it would maintain the ACEs and the CCEs through the period that was agreed to, and it would be sure that the ACE coordinated care fees are in place from January 2015 through January 30 of 2016. It's a good Bill. It helps us save money. It helps us bring new revenue into the system. I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 788 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting 09900057.docx 172  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Franks. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 67 voting 'yes', 44 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', Senate Bill 788, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. I move to suspend the posting requirements so that Senate Bill 455 can be heard in Health Care Licensing Committee."

"Chair recognizes Representative Sandack."

"You've heard the Gentleman's request on the Lady's Motion. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 69 voting 'yes', 45 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', the Motion carries and the posting requirements are suspended. Representative Williams, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd just like to correct the record on Senate Bill 398. I inadvertently pressed 'no', but it meant to be 'yes' on Senate Bill 398." 09900057.docx 173  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Thank you, Representative. The Journal will reflect your request. Representative Martwick, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just wanted the record to reflect that on Senate Bill 788 I was paying attention."

"On page 7 of the Calendar, we have Senate Bill 23, Representative Currie. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. In the early 1970s the United States Supreme Court said that the states could not make participation as a citizen of the United States, could not make citizenry a requirement for admission to the bar. That is to say lawyers could not be required actually to have citizenship. What this measure does, it comes from Senate President Cullerton, is to clarify under Illinois law that… that the fact that one is not a citizen should not be a barrier to becoming a lawyer. I would be happy to answer your questions. And I'd appreciate your support for making sure that we're not out of line with Federal Court decisions."

"Chair recognizes Representative Sandack."

"The Lady will yield."

"Right. And my understanding is that, in fact, whatever happens here would ultimately be done by the Illinois Supreme Court. So we are not able to supersede them or to tell them what to do."

"But what this would do is to clarify that citizenship should not be a requirement that they would impose as required in order to become a member of the bar. So it… it’s really almost like, hello, Supremes. We think that we shouldn't make citizenship a requirement. So it changes our statute so that we no longer say that citizenship is a requirement."

"My understanding is that that's what the statute says."

"Just a minute, I'm checking."

"Yeah, I don't ha… I don't have the direct reference, but I may have the language. Yeah. The… I don't have the reference, but I'll get it for you later. But our statute provides no person is entitled to receive a license unless they have… they are a citizen, have declared an intention, or have filed a petition for naturalization."

"Yeah. But…"

"Okay. If you look at 705 ILCS 205/2 I think you'll find the language I just read to you."

"Right."

"I… Yeah, I…"

"I believe the court could, but if I were the court and I saw a statute that was very limiting in terms of citizenship and practicing at the bar, I might be reluctant to do that. I might be more likely to be expansive in my interpretation if the Legislature were to have adopted Senate Bill 23."

"I… I believe they do, especially given that we have language that is somewhat limiting in our current state statute. And I agree that the court could act upon its own, but I think sometimes it's helpful to remind the court that it has that authority."

"Chair recognizes Representative Breen."

"She indicates that she will."

"That's exactly right." 09900057.docx 177  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"No, I don't think that's right because, again, I think the court would finally have to make that determination, Representative."

"Well, I… actually there's some dispute over how the statute is worded, but I thought when I picked up this Bill that it was worded in such fashion that it would apply to a limited set of people who are here in this country and who are not able to apply for citizenship."

"That's exactly right."

"Right. Right."

"Well, these are people who came here as children, they did not come to this country of their own volition. They may have come as… as early as when they were six months old."

"So these are people who are now coming into adulthood. They have no country but this country. Given that the United States Supreme Court said that we can't make citizenship a prerequisite for occupations including practice as a lawyer, it seems to me important for us to say to these young people, yeah, if you were to go to the trouble, the time and expense of law school, at the end of the day, maybe you get to be one."

"And that's all this does. It encourages the Supreme Court to look upon this population and say let's clarify that should they go to law school, should they take the Bar Exam and succeed, their citizenship status would not preclude them from a lawyer's license."

"Yeah. But I don’t think that has anything to do with this Bill. This Bill really is a suggestion to the Illinois Supreme Court that they look again at the 19… early 1970s United States Supreme Court opinion and they begin to consider 09900057.docx 179  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 the question, who ought to be allowed to apply for membership in the Illinois Bar."

"No, no, no."

"We have done a number of things in this Legislature to help these young people called dreamers, the ones who came not of their own volition who have known no country but this one. We have done things like driver's license, we have enabled them to get certain other kinds of privileges, and this it seems to me is absolutely in keeping with the responsiveness and the… the good graces of this Assembly, this government in terms of responding to their legitimate needs."

"Okay…"

"And that could happen to anybody. Somebody can go to law school, spend all the money, spend the three years and fail the bar, you know, time after time. But I think here the issue…" 09900057.docx 180  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"…here the issue…"

"…here the issue is that under existing State Law and under Supreme Court rules there is no certainty that a person going through law school would have the chance to apply to the bar."

"So, and remember, Congress passed legislation before the President's action with respect to the so-called dreamers that enables the states to do things like the driver's license program and I would argue like this."

"Chair recognizes Representative Soto. Can we check on Representative Soto’s mic?"

"Check. Check. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. To the Leader that spoke about this Bill. Yes. I just want to say that I'm very offended to hear what was mentioned on the other side. We're all the same. We might come from a different country, but we're no different than anybody else that sits in this General Assembly. And if someone wants to go to law school and they were brought here against their will when they were born or even when they were young at two, three, four, five, they didn't know they were coming here. They didn't… they didn't know that this is where they were going to be raised. But now they are. They want that opportunity like your children want opportunities. I think that it's only fair that we support the things that you do and I think that you should be supporting the things that we're doing. I understand that there's immigration issues, but those are immigration issues that we're going to work through. We're a growing population. Whether you like it or not, we're going to be here forever and we're only going to get… grow the population even bigger. So I just urge an 'aye' vote. I think this is a very important Bill. And the children that we're talking about, they're very bright students and they work very hard to make sure that they would fit into the United States. So I think that we should give them that opportunity like we… the opportunities that we want for our children. Again, I just want to thank everybody and I just ask you to find it in your heart to vote 'yes' on this Bill."

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"The Sponsor indicates that she will yield."

"Well, I'll tell you, I know a lot of people, citizens of the United States who've become lawyers and then they decided to go practice in London, England, or maybe in Chile. And I think the point about the dreamers is they know no other country. This is their country; it's the only one they know. And I would venture to suggest that should the Illinois Supreme Court change the rules, the vast majority of any dreamer who became a lawyer would be very likely to stay right here in Illinois."

"I'm not the least bit worried about the export problem. And I think this is good legislation that recognizes where 09900057.docx 183  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 people are and what their needs and responsibilities should be."

"Chair recognizes Representative Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm going to go to the Bill. I'm going to use a different perspective."

"Shhh. Franks has not much of a voice…"

"Thank you."

"…today. Representative, go ahead."

"I stand here as the grandchild of an illegal immigrant. I am so glad my grandfather didn't miss the boat. This is the land of opportunity. He came here illegally and he stayed. He got deported and he had to come back legally. These children who we're talking about have done nothing wrong. They were brought here, they had no choice. And then what you're going to say if you vote 'no' is you're going to punish them for something they had nothing to do with. I've gone to the schools in my district where we have a large Hispanic 09900057.docx 184  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 population in Harvard, Illinois, for instance, and kids can't get driver's licenses or couldn’t until recently because they didn't have Social Security numbers and that wasn't their fault. In here, we have people who have followed the rules by applying for their deferred action for childhood arrivals and those that have gone through the U.S. Immigration Service. And all we're saying is give them a fair chance. Just give them a fair chance, level the playing field. Why do we want to keep people down? This is the land of opportunity. All of us are immigrants, let's not forget that. Please vote 'aye'."

"Chair recognizes Representative Anthony."

"Chair recognizes Representative Sandack."

"Chair recognizes Representative Hernandez."

"Thank you, Speaker. Will the Representative yield?"

"The Representative indicates that she will yield."

"Representative, can I ask you what caused you to bring this for… this Bill forward?"

"Well, in fact, it was Senator Cullerton who discovered that the current statute would preclude the dreamers from being able to be members of the bar, and that's where this Bill came from. He said, that isn't right. And I agreed, that isn't right. And while it is fair to say that ultimately the decision is likely to come from the Illinois Supreme Court, our current statute doesn't give them the leeway to make it clear that Illinois, as Representative Franks said, is the land of opportunity. So we want to make it clear to the Supreme Court and to anybody else who'd like to listen that these dreamers, these people who came here not because they wanted to violate the law, but because mom or dad brought them here, that they have an opportunity to live the American dream."

"To the Bill. I just want to thank the… Leader Currie for bringing forward this Bill. Or… I appreciate that this particular population of, in particular doctorate students, are just making efforts for an opportunity based on the career they led finishing law school. Law school gives a proven record. Why wouldn't we want to support individuals like this 09900057.docx 186  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 into our society by giving them a chance? If this means just simply reminding the courts of some possibilities of bringing good citizens, possible citizens into our country, into this good nation, why not support a measure like this? Thank you, Leader Currie, for bringing this forward. And I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Chair recognizes Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Lady yield?"

"She indicates that she will."

"Representative, can you please define for me who is the Illinois Coalition for Immigrants and Refugee Rights?"

"It is an organization that does citizenship classes. It helps people who are new in the United States, new in Illinois to learn English if it is a second language for them. It also does citizenship and other classes. So it provides many services to recent arrivals in Illinois and in the United States."

"Recent arrivals?"

"Yes."

"Recent arrivals from all over the world…"

"From all over the world."

"…not just… not one particular."

"Absolutely."

"Thank you very much, Representative. I think this is a fantastic piece of legislation and I would urge an 'aye' vote."

"And it's not only the… the Immigration and Civil Rights Coalition, but also the Illinois State Bar Association welcomes this Bill. The lawyers we have here in the State of 09900057.docx 187  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 Illinois aren't afraid to welcome the dreamers to join their ranks."

"I'm not a lawyer, Representative, but I too welcome the dreamers, all the dreamers. Thank you."

"Chair reco… recognizes Representative Guzzardi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I rise for a brief moment to take issue with the characterization of this Bill from the gentle Lady from Wheaton. She suggested that she looks at this Bill in a different light. I would suggest that it’s simply an incorrect light. First of all, to suggest that these children aren't Americans when they came over at such a young age, as has been said already on this floor, these people know no other country. They are as American as you or I. And then the suggestion that somehow they'll be sneaking back to their home countries to take away Illinois jobs, that suggestion simply boggles the mind. And to the Leader from Downers Grove who suggested that we're attempting to put the op… the other Party in a box with this legislation, there's an easy way out of the box, vote 'yes'. This Bill is compassionate, it's common sense. And yes, the Supreme Court will ultimately make the decision, but we have passed legislation that would keep dreamers from becoming lawyers. Let's pass legislation that changes that and let the Supreme Court make up their mind. If they decide that the U.S. Supreme Court was wrong and they reach that ruling, I don't know how they would, but if they should so be it. But let it be said that we stood here today and stood with the dreamers and allowed them to pursue a future in this country. I urge an 'aye' vote. Thank you." 09900057.docx 188  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Leader Currie to close."

"Thank you, Speaker. Let's do the right thing for these youngsters who did nothing wrong themselves, should not be punished. Let us… let us extend our hand to them. Let us help them up the ladder of opportunity right here in the State of Illinois. I urge your 'aye' votes."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 23 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members, please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 67 voting 'yes', 39 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present', Senate Bill 23, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 15 on the… of the Calendar, under Senate Bills on Second Reading, we have Senate Bill 368, Representative McAuliffe. Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. Representative McAuliffe on Floor Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 368."

"Gentleman moves… Gentleman moves that the House adopt Floor Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 368. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, Senate Bill 368. Please read the Bill." 09900057.docx 189  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Representative McAuliffe."

"Chair recognizes Representative David Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Speaker. A question of the Sponsor."

"He indicates that he will yield." Harris, D.: "Representative, this Bill extends a TIF District for Rosemont. Is that correct?"

"Chair recognizes Representative Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates that he will."

"I'm trying to understand the area in which you're trying to extend the TIF. Is it a blighted area?"

"Well, I think that the definition of a TIF is to eradicate blight or to develop vacant land, which apparently this is. But I think the extra portion of that is that the land would not be developed without public financial assistance. Is that correct?"

"Okay. I find it hard to believe that any part of Rosemont is blighted. But I don't understand why you're coming right now after 2 years, as the previous speaker said, to ask for 09900057.docx 191  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 an extension when you have so many years left. Why are you doing this?"

"I understand they asked you to, but I don’t understand why. There's something here and I don’t know what it is, and I'd like to know because you're asking us to do something that I've never seen done in my time here and you can't tell me why."

"But wouldn't you agree that a TIF that was started 2 years ago that has many, many years left on it to ask for an extension 2 years into it is curious?"

"But… but the problem then, when you mar… when you make that argument is then you're really saying that they're not blighted. You're also saying then that they would probably develop this without state financial assistance, because if they're that rich people are going to want to be there. And I've seen the development in Rosemont and I would… I don't think anyone here could argue with a straight face that it's blighted. They do a great job. Mayor Stephens is a magician. He is terrific and he does a wonderful job. But what my 09900057.docx 192  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 concern is… and to the Bill, is our… is that our definition for TIFs need to be tightened up, ‘cause I don't believe that the TIF definition was ever intended for something like this. And when the Sponsor can't tell us why he wants to extend it, my antenna go up. And I'm just very cautious about this because I don't understand it, and as a result, I can't support it."

"Chair recognizes Representative Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would just like to thank the Sponsor of the legislation for allowing me to amend this Bill. First of all, I asked people on our side of the aisle to vote for this TIF extension. It is going to create jobs in Rosemont, but it's also going to save and create jobs in Granite City, Illinois, by extending a TIF in Granite City, Illinois. Right now… right now, Granite City Steel is facing enormous layoffs. Luckily, it was announced today that these layoffs aren't all going to happen and only 80 people, not 2 thousand people, are going to be laid off at this time. But I've been told by U.S. Steel that they are still going to be at risk and those jobs still may be at risk. This TIF has created over 700 jobs and saved 24 hundred… 2414 jobs. We need to extend that TIF. I'm asking you on this side of the aisle, let's help create jobs and keep jobs in Granite City, Illinois, manufacturing jobs, and let's help create jobs in Rosemont. I urge an 'aye' vote on this side of the aisle."

"Representative McAuliffe to close."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 368 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Bourne, Brown, Mitchell. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 97 voting 'yes', 13 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 368, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair is in receipt of a Motion to reconsider Senate Bill 1304 filed by Representative Sandack. Representative Sandack."

"You all heard the Gentleman's Motion. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Golar, Jesiel, Lang. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 112 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', the Motion carries. Senate Bill 1304, Representative Sims. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Sims."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill is so historic we get to do it twice. As I mentioned before, this is the omnibus Bill creating the body cam protocols and police reform package. I ask for a… I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Chair recognizes Representative Reis."

"Representative Sims will yield for a question."

"Chair recognizes Representative Anthony."

"He indicates that he will."

"Approximately 200."

"Somewhere in the neighborhood of 15."

"That's correct."

"I think it's a great piece of legislation, Representative."

"They did."

"No, we do not."

"There is not."

"They will." 09900057.docx 196  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"I… Representative, I couldn't hear the… I couldn't hear the question. I'm sorry."

"It is not."

"As I referenced to a former speaker on the Bill, what you have in the Bill is when the Bill… or when a pedestrian is detained, i.e., frisked, searched or arrested…"

"…then there is a… then there is a copy of an arrest card or contact card given to them."

"That's correct."

"Chair recognizes Representative Brady."

"Sponsor will yield."

"What we have tried to do, Representative, is ensure that for all the additional requirements on training that we've added to the Law Enforcement Trainings and Standards Board, as I mentioned in earlier debate, we've tried to make sure there were adequate resources for the Training and Standards 09900057.docx 198  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 Board to employ individuals around the state who are capable of doing the training to engage in establishing new training modules. So we've got the resources available to do that."

"Correct."

"Correct."

"That's been… that's been part of the package since the very beginning. Part of the fines will go towards funding the grant program, the other part will go toward the additional training requirements."

Speaker Turner: "Chair recognizes Representative Christian Mitchell." Mitchell, C.: "Okay. Art… Oh, there we go. Okay. Now it works. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Question of the Sponsor."

"The Sponsor will yield." Mitchell, C.: "Representative Sims, I've got a couple of questions for the purpose of legislative intent from a couple different organizations. So let me start with a concern by some of our friends in the domestic violence community. Section 10- 20(A)(5) 1020 A5 appears as though it only requires a police 09900057.docx 199  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 officer to provide notice that he or she is wearing a body camera and that is recording when the person being recorded has a reasonable expectation of privacy. The concern is, in the subsection of the previous page, this Bill mandates that an officer must turn off his or her camera at the request of a victim or crime witness. In cases where a victim is being recorded is in a place where he or she has reasonable expectation of privacy, who will notify the victim of his or her right to have those cameras turned off?"

"The officer under departmental policy will have the notice be given whether that is whatever the manner of there is something on the camera or if there is a light on the camera, but we've allowed the individual departments to determine that. But the officer will notify the victim of their right to not have… to not have the camera on. So then, when… if and when they come into the situation, when they engage them and as soon as practical thereafter turn the camera off." Mitchell, C.: "Okay. And so to be…"

"If requested." Mitchell, C.: "…so to be clear, they are… the officer is required to notify the victim or witness of this right?"

"The officer… the officer may… may recor… may… again, we've allowed the departments to determine that by policy, but the officer will… will then… will talk to each individual victim and or witness and the witness has to… has the ability to have the camera turned off and that has to be on the record." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you, Representative. Couple more questions. The Bill provides that the recordings made with officer worn 09900057.docx 200  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 cameras are subject to the Freedom of Information Act in specific circumstances. Is that correct?"

"Yes, it is." Mitchell, C.: "Okay. Couple more. Do the guidelines in this Bill apply to covert cameras used by undercover officers?"

"No, they do not." Mitchell, C.: "Okay. Do officers have to issue a stop receipt in every encounter with a member of the public?"

"No, they do not." Mitchell, C.: "Okay."

"As we… as I mentioned previously, we've defined it as the stop receipt only applies to detentions. If an individual is searched, frisked, or arrested, that is the only time that the stop receipt must be issued." Mitchell, C.: "Okay. Does this Bill allow the recording officer access or… to access or review the recordings made by body cameras?"

"Yes, it does. We follow best practices as established by the PERF report to allow for individuals to review the tape as they are then making their reports. That has been the best practice that've been… that's established and recommended by the Police Enforcement Review Committee." Mitchell, C.: "Okay. And one final question for legislative intent. Are Conservation Police officers going to have to issue a receipt to each boat or snowmobile operator even though they are merely carrying out the basic tenets of enforcing these Acts for compliance?"

"As with the basic tenets of enforcing the Fish and Aquatic Life Code, the Wildlife Code, and the Herptile and Herps Act 09900057.docx 201  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 where compliance checks are a routine and integral part of enforcing the Acts, it is the intent that receipts will not need to be issued for compliance inspections under the Boat and Snowmobile Registration and Safety Acts." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you, Representative. Briefly to the Bill. I want to thank Chairman Sims for his extraordinary work on this measure. There were a lot of Bills that came in, as Representative Anthony noted, and he did an excellent job distilling it down to its core principle of what needed to get done. I want to thank him as well as Representatives Anthony and Cabello for the great work they've done. This is a very important Bill. We now will have independent review of police involved shootings, something that I deeply cared about. And that kind of closure, ensuring the communities know that law is not just to be imposed upon them but it's to be acted on for and with them will help us proactively avoid the kind of situations we've seen in Baltimore and in Ferguson. This is a great piece of legislation. I'm honored to have been a part of it. And I'd ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Chair recognizes Representative Kay."

"He indicates that he will."

"That's correct."

"That's correct."

"What we… what we have right now, Representative, is a backlog in our state's crime lab. Again, what we are trying to do is make sure that we are reducing the backlog in those… in the… at the crime lab and giving the… giving the crime lab the resources to do that. But what you also see in the Bill are reporting requirements where the crime lab has to report to us on the backlog for DNA cases, rape kits, and the like so that we know on an ongoing basis how they are doing and the progress they are making to reduce the backlog."

"No."

"They are specific to reducing the backlog."

"Thank you so much, Representative."

"Chair recognizes Representative Ives." 09900057.docx 203  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Chair recognizes Representative Sandack."

"Chair recognizes Representative Wallace."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise with one question. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates that he will." 09900057.docx 204  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"My question is, can you share a little bit more about the independent investigation of officer-involved shootings?"

"Absolutely. So what we've put into the Bill, if there is an officer-involved shooting, there must be two outside… two outside investigators who come in, one of which will be the lead investigator. They must not be from the department where the officer-involved shooting occurred. One of the… one of the shooters… one of the investigators must be trained in homicide investi… homicide investigation by the Illinois Law Enforcement Training and Standards Board. We've also made sure that… what we really, as I mentioned earlier, what we are trying to do is bring transparency to the process because transparency brings confidence. And if you… if the… once the investigation is done, a report is then submitted to the state’s attorney. Once the state’s attorney gets the… gets the report, if they choose not to indict under the… after the… after reading the report, the report is then made public so that citizens get the opportunity to see the evidence that was brought to bear and they get to make the decision for themselves on why the… why the decision was not. But in keeping with that, if the… if individuals who are involved in the situation then in turn believe that the state’s attorney made the wrong call, there is a process in this legislation where an individual can then seek the appointment of a special prosecutor. The special prosecutor will then in turn… the court will then make a determination based on an actual conflict that exists and the appointment of a special prosecutor can occur." 09900057.docx 205  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"Thank you very much. To the Bill. I appreciate all of the hard work of the Members on both sides of the aisle. I represent a city that in the last several years has suffered the loss of several unarmed citizens due to officer-involved shootings. And so to the families of Mark Anthony Barmore, Demetrius Bennett, and Logan Bell, I am so happy to stand here as a Sponsor of this piece of legislation that while it may not comfort them and bring the results that they wanted to their individual situations, I hope that it will moving forward impact the decisions that our officers make, impact the relationship between Rockford Police Department and its citizens. And just a heartfelt thank you to every single person who worked on this piece of legislation on behalf of those families and the entire City of Rockford. Thank you."

"Chair recognizes Representative Unes."

"He indicates that he will."

"Yes, Representative, as I mentioned previously, we've talked about bringing a trailer Bill together. They are working on getting language drafted right now and our staff 09900057.docx 206  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 and your staff will eventually get copies of that language and we'll vet it and move forward from there."

"You're welcome."

"Chair recognizes Representative Will Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield." Davis, W.: "Representative, I will also join in the accolades offered to you and Members on the other side of the aisle for this type of work and creating this omnibus package. I'll get to my comments shortly, but let me just ask a couple of questions. So when you talk about body cameras, in our analysis it talks about the circumstances under which a body camera may be turned off. Is that correct?"

"Yes, it does." Davis, W.: "Now, does that process kind of flow in two directions? And my example is this, it says one of the reasons where an officer may turn the body camera off includes say… it says officer is engaged in a community care taking function, like a town hall meeting. So if he's in that, if a situation arises where instead of being a community care situation maybe it turns into a situation, will the officer then be required to turn that camera on?"

"Yes, he will." Davis, W.: "He will. Fantastic. It says… another situation, the officer is interacting with a victim or witness and the victim or witness requests that camera to be turned off. So does 09900057.docx 207  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 that mean that in the beginning of that situation that the camera is automatically on?"

"That's correct. It… what we… what we have built into the protocols is that the cameras are al… the cameras are always on and when the… when an officer is engaging… engaging in public and engaging in his duties of his office, he is… he has the camera on and he is recording. What we were attempting to do is make sure that we did not chill the discussions that witnesses or victims want to have with the police, so then we made accommodations to allow them to turn those cameras off." Davis, W.: "Okay. Another situation that says the officer is in a patrol car with an active in-car camera. So that implies that if he makes a stop, the car camera is on viewing or… or taping the stop in front of him, correct?"

"Well, the cameras… and the cameras are always on, Representative. They have to be activated. So, they only start recording once… for the in-dash cameras, the only time the camera starts to record is when the lights turn on." Davis, W.: "Right."

"Same thing with the… with the body cameras." Davis, W.: "Right."

"That's why in the language you'll see that there is… there is a requirement that the technology has a 30-second pre- event recording. So the camera will be on, then once you start recording it, it records the first 30… the 30 seconds prior to when the recording starts to occur." Davis, W.: "Okay. So, again, officer stops the camera… so you're saying both cameras turn on. Because my concern is that if it speaks to a situation where the camera may be off and it says 09900057.docx 208  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 here that that involves a officers in a patrol car, when that officer gets out of the patrol car to approach the vehicle in front of them does that mean that now the body camera is on?"

"Yes. Again, the camera's always on." Davis, W.: "It's always on?"

"But the… again, when you… as you're in a patrol car, when you activate the lights, then the lights… the camera starts to record, but it already records… has a pre-event recording function. The same thing happens with the body camera. The body camera is on. When you start to record, it records 30 seconds up to before you started recording." Davis, W.: "Okay. It says retention of records. Recordings must retain for 90 days and then destroyed thereafter. So within, does that 90-day period clock stop if there is now a civil action or something against an officer where that viewing or that video may be called into evidence beyond the 90 days?"

"What you… what you'll see in the later provision is that if there is a… if the video is flagged, i.e., there is a civil or criminal action, there is… there is a complaint lodged, there’s a discharge of a firearm, or other items, then that ca… then that camera's video… that video is then kept for at least… at a minimum time until at least the disposition of the case. So if the court makes a determination that the case is over, then the video may be… may be destroyed or the… or the tolling of two years." Davis, W.: "Okay. So… and then with the next provision under disclosure of records, that they may not be disclosed under the Freedom of Information Act unless the recording relates to a complaint. So my question there is how does this work in 09900057.docx 209  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 suburban communities? Because I represent suburban communities and I get calls from constituents often that have difficult interactions with local law enforcement and they're looking for a standards board like that's set up in the City of Chicago to file a complaint with. And all I can do is refer them back to the local police department, maybe to the State’s Attorneys Office. So when we talk about a complaint, does this in any way make the complaint process a little bit more accessible and easy for residents, particularly those in suburban communities?"

"Well, again, Representative, what you're going to ha… what… and when your constituents who might want to make the complaint would have now is objective evidence of the interaction between them and the police. And they will… they will then have that… have that lan… have that for you and if there is an allegation of the use of force or a discharge of a weapon or arrest, that's all… that's going to be flagged. So, they'll have access to that video and it's… again, this is… this is not only to the body camera, the videos produced by the body cameras are not only to produce objective evidence of the interaction, they're for evidence gathering purposes." Davis, W.: "Okay. Moving on. Training. So you talk about in- service training requirements, basic training. Can we make the assumption that in any of the training that officers have to go through does it involve sensitivity training, cultural sensitivity training, diversity training, cultural competency, any of that? Because unfortunately, what we've seen in situations that one of the previous speakers talked about in Baltimore and some of the other cities, it's 09900057.docx 210  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 unfortunately been someone of color that's been killed by a white officer. So, well, in training, is it dealt… any of that dealt with in training in terms of cultural competency of sensitivity training, cultural sensitivity?"

"Representative, we went to great lengths to make sure that the training modules that have been… that have been added to… to this Bill are extensive. First, there… currently, there is no requirement that there is ongoing in-service training for law enforcement. What we have added to this Bill is an annual law… in-service training requirement. We've also added a three-year mandatory in-service training requirement. But the subject matter that you mentioned, those are all outlined in the Bill as well. There is cultural competency in the Bill. There is the use of force and control… use and control tactics. There is procedural justice outlined in the Bill. There is addiction… the detection of addiction… a person who is addicted to drugs or alcohol, being able to identify the traits of somebody who has been sexually assaulted. All those training requirements are built into this legislation. And again, that is… it is very comprehensive, some of which has been recommended by the President's Task Force on 21st Century Policing, and we've gone to great lengths to make sure that we have provided our very fine officers with additional training opportunities to make them better." Davis, W.: "Okay. Moving on. Stop and frisk data collection. Does that data collection apply to colleges and universities in the State of Illinois?" 09900057.docx 211  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015

"No. Representative, they are also required to participate in this study, just as they would under the traffic stop study." Davis, W.: "So was that a yes? I'm sorry."

"That's a yes." Davis, W.: "Okay. And I think that's very important because I think in situations on college campuses we see, unfortunately, disproportionality in terms of young people who are in college being stopped by police officers that are either from that particular community where the college is located as well as university police. So making sure that they are a part of this conversation is important as well. And you say that they are a part…"

"They are." Davis, W.: "…of that data collection?"

"That's correct." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much. Very briefly, to the Bill. So, just for the record, I didn't vote for the reconsideration because I thought we were beyond that, whether or not individuals had or things that they wanted to say or not say, I thought we were past it. Clearly there were things I wanted to say and I would have just had a conversation with the Bill Sponsor. But since given the opportunity of course I took the opportunity to say the things that I needed to say. So I just wanted to make that very clear. But let me just say, Ladies and Gentlemen, I don't think that this is over. I hope that because we've passed what appears to be a very comprehensive piece of legislation that issues that are involving law enforcement that this solves them all. I don't think that it 09900057.docx 212  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 will. I think there will be a need to come back and address other issues as it relates to law enforcement in the future. So to the extent in which those of you in the chamber, particularly those of you are law enforcement, will understand that omnibus doesn't mean it's fixed. May mean we've gotten to a certain place and that's great, and hopefully we'll have the ability, if there's a need, to come back and advance additional legislation to further address the interactions of our residents and law enforcement in the future. Thank you."

"Chair recognizes Representative Arroyo."

"Hello. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates that he will."

"I, also, want to stand in support of all the people that worked on this Bill, especially the Gentlemen and women on the other side. I hope that this is the beginning so we can start working on the budget Bill when it comes back. But you know what, there is time that we can work together and we want to continue to do this. I want to thank the Sponsor of the Bill. I think that this Bill is very important now that people are out there getting shot when they're not supposed to be getting shot innocently. Now, when we have these cameras, these cameras could be able to deter if it was a decent shooting, or a right shooting, or illegal shooting, or whatever the shooting was like. It happens a lot in minority communities when people get shot innocently. There was a friend, a family friend, Martin Brown, that was shot innocently that he shouldn’t have been shot. If the police officer would have had this camera, the individual probably 09900057.docx 213  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 wouldn't have gotten shot because he didn't deserve to be shot. But one thing I wanted to ask you, Elgie, Representative, is this subject to appropriations or how do we plan on paying for these cameras?"

"Representative, the grant program would be subject to appropriation, as would the funds going to the crime lab."

"So the grant program is subject to appropriations? Do you have a number on the appropriation?"

"I don't know that we made a… there was an appropriation request made, Representative. There are… currently, there is approximately $1.8 million in the Law Enforcement Camera Grant Fund, $1 million of which was scheduled to be swept under the FY15 fix. So there is sufficient money to get the grant program started for law enforcement if they wish to purchase body cameras today."

"Well, Representative, I would like to continue to work with you on the other side as the Chairman of Appropriation- Public Safety and be able to take out an appropriation line for these cameras to be able to pay for these cameras the same way we do a subject line for jobs, for any other program, for any program downstate, City of Chicago. I think that we should continue to work with this and work with the other side to put maybe $5 million… a line subject to appropriation… or appropriation line of $5 million to get these cameras. These cameras are going to be very important and the next thing you're going to hear is we can't afford the cameras, we can't afford to put them in our police… police department. I would like to have the state troopers have these cameras. I would like to have every single police officer in the State 09900057.docx 214  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 of Illinois to have these cameras. And I will ask the people… the Legislators on the other side to continue working with us to get the money for these cameras. Thank you. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Chair recognizes Representative Cabello."

"He indicates that he will."

"That's in current law. If you make a false statement against a police officer, that can be charged as a criminal offense."

"I think that, again, this is a piece of legislation. And as I've said in committee yesterday and I think I said on the floor earlier, the hallmark of good legislation is when nobody's happy, nobody got exactly what they wanted, but everybody's issues were addressed. And I think we did that."

"Representative Sims to close."

"Mr. Speaker, I can certainly stand here as the Sponsor of this Bill and say we've done a good job. But I cannot say enough that we still have work to do. And I cannot take credit for all of the good ideas included in this piece of legislation. So I'd like to thank a few people for their good ideas. But before I do that, I'd like to read from Article 10… page 9, Article 10, Section 10.5 of the Bill. And it says the General Assembly recognizes that trust and mutual respect between law enforcement agencies and the communities they protect and serve are essential to effective policing and the 09900057.docx 216  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 integrity of our criminal justice system. That is why we're here today; that is what we’re doing today. But again, let me thank a few folks who had some wonderful ideas throughout this Session and have worked very hard. Senator Kwame Raoul who is in the chamber who helped spearhead the discussions, and his staff, Ashley Jenkins, and of course Representative Cabello, Kalyn Hill, I think we mixed… we got Kalyn and Ashley combined, I got it. But to James and Ashley on your side, thank you so much. Law enforcement community, Representatives Gordon-Booth, Representative Mitchell, Representative Flowers, Representative Davis, Representative Welch, Representative Reaves-Harris, Representative Wallace, Representative Cabello, Representative Anthony. We had some wonderful, wonderful people come help us with some outstanding ideas to make sure that this… that we can make it to this moment. And again, let me remind this chamber, this is not a mandate. We are not mandating that departments buy these cameras. However, Illinois can take great pride in the fact that we are the first state in the nation that has… that is poised to pass a state… pass statewide protocols for the implementation of body cameras and unprecedented reforms in our police… policing… our policing system. Ladies and Gentlemen, thank you for your support. I appreciate all the accolades. Again, I did not earn them alone. My colleagues on the other side, Representative Anthony, Representative Cabello, oftentimes we disagreed, but we were not disagreeable and we were able to work together to get to this place. So I thank each and every one of your for your hard 09900057.docx 217  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 work, the hours of dedication and dedicated effort that you gave to this piece of legislation. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1304 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Kay. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 107 voting 'yes', 3 voting 'no', 4 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1304, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

"Leader Currie moves that the House adopt the Agreed Resolutions. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolutions are adopted. Representative Zalewski, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Point of personal privilege, Mr. Speaker."

"Please proceed, Sir."

"Speaker, it's been a long day, a long, hard day. The White Sox Caucus is meeting over at Brown's right now. Excuse me. Excuse me. Let's keep the… let's keep the tensions under control. The White Sox Caucus is meeting over at Brown's right 09900057.docx 218  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day 5/28/2015 now. They're losing 4 to 3; we need all the help we can get. Head over to Brown's and go, White Sox."

"Pull it together, Sox. Mr. Clerk, committee announcements."

"You've all heard the committee assignments. Please try to get there as quick as possible. And now, allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk, Leader Currie moves that the House adjourn until Friday, May 29 at the hour of 10 a.m. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the House is adjourned."