Illinois House Floor Debate — April 21, 2016

"The House will come to order. The House will come to order. We shall be led in prayer today by Pastor Eric Fistler who is with First Congressional Church of Crystal Lake in Crystal Lake. Pastor Fistler is the guest of Representative Franks. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off cell phones and rise for the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance. Pastor Fistler."

"Be led in the Pledge today by Representative Harper."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record show that Representatives Monique Davis and Dunkin are excused today."

"Mr. Brown." 09900122.docx 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 115 Members present, we do have a quorum. The Chair recognizes Representative Bellock. For what reason do you rise?"

"Please proceed."

"Thank you, and welcome to the Capitol. Thank you for joining us today. Mr. Bennett is recognized."

"Please proceed."

"Welcome. Thank you for being here. Thank you, Mr. Bennett. Mr. Clerk, Committee Reports." 09900122.docx 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Ladies and Gentlemen, moving again to priority Bills that you have given your chiefs, the first one is Senate Bill 2059. Out of the record. House Bill 741, Mr. Acevedo. Mr. Acevedo. Out of the record. House Bill 6200, Representative Ammons. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Ammons."

"Thank you. I'd ask that you adopt Amendment 1."

"Please explain very briefly what the Amendment does. Good try, though."

"Yeah. This Amendment just puts a cap on the rate for international calls from Department of Corrections."

"Those in… Mr. Sandack is recognized."

"Mr. Sandack is not recognized."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 6213, Representative Ammons. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Ammons."

"Thank you. This Bill is… oh, is this… oh, I'm asking for the adoption of the Amendment as well. This Amendment is just… in committee this was an agreed Bill. We got it out of committee with support from both sides. We've been working with all of our allies, HFS, on this Bill. And in essence, this a consumer-friendly Bill that will make the process for Medicaid recipients seem… sterm… streamline that process and make it very easy for them. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes'… I'll withdraw my comment. The Chair recognizes Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes, Sir. We did do that."

"Yes. Thank you."

Speaker Lang: "Those in favor of the Amendment say… Chair recognizes Representative Bellock." 09900122.docx 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4820, Mr. Cabello. Mr. Cabello. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5764, Mr. Andrade. Mr. Andrade. Please hold this Bill on the Order of Second Reading, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 4156, Representative Kelly Burke. Kelly Burke. Out of the record. House Bill 4671, Representative Feigenholtz. Out of the record. House Bill 6292, Representative Fine. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Fine."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Do we need to adopt the Amendment?" 09900122.docx 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Yes."

"So, the Amendment ta… takes away all opposition from the legislation. And it creates… the language that's equal to what we see in other pension plans."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4537, Representative Flowers. Representative Mary Flowers. Please read the Bill."

"Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 6098, Mr. Demmer. Out of the record. House Bill 5931, Representative Gabel. Out of the record. House Bill 5417, Mr. Ford. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5472, Representative Gordon-Booth. Representative Gordon-Booth. Out of the record. House Bill 3554, Mr. Guzzardi. Out of the record. House Bill 2344, Mr. Fortner. Mr. Fortner. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 61… Pardon me, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 6130, Representative Hurley. Representative Hurley. Out of the record. House Bill 4515, Representative Lilly. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Lilly."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to adopt the Amendment, Amendment 3."

"Can you explain the Amendment?"

"Yes. The Amendment ensures applicants receiving written notification of the disqualifying offenses for which they have been given a waiver, so that the potential employer will know of those offenses upon request. It also ensures copies of those documents will be received by the employer and the applicant."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Chair recognizes Mr. Fortner."

"Would you…"

"…like to move your Bill back to Second Reading, Sir?"

"Thank you. House Bill 5958, Mr. Kay. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4312, Mr. Martwick. Please read the Bill."

"Please hold the Bill on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 5703, Mr. Phelps. Mr. Phelps. Out of the record. House Bill 2262, Mr. Mitchell. Bill Mitchell. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Mitchell." 09900122.docx 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 Mitchell, B.: "Thank you. Move to adopt the Amendment. It amends the Illinois Vehicle Code, provides the minimum amount of insurance from 2 million of liability required for a vehicle school bus driver permitted to satisfy 2 million single, primary commercial or a 5 million excess umbrella liability policy."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 6123, Mr. Smiddy. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Smiddy on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Amendment alleviates some of the kerns of the Veterans Affairs Department. I ask for its passage."

"Mr. Sullivan on the Amendment."

"Sponsor yields."

"No, it does not." 09900122.docx 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"It takes any monetary responsibility away from the Veterans Affairs, and it also tell… it tells… tells them where the… excuse me… where the burn pits were over in the Middle East. And that's the only countries that they would be needing to do these tests for the depleted uranium."

"Well, we got a fiscal note back. They're saying right around $4 million."

"Yes, there's still opposition."

"Those in favor of the Amendment will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4648, Mr. Welch. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Welch."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I ask for adoption of House Floor Amendment #2. House Floor Amendment #2 takes away all opposition to the Bill. It is an agreed Bill. And I ask for adoption."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4492, Representative Mayfield. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5729, Representative Kelly Burke. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Burke." Burke, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Floor Amendment 1 makes some changes to some timelines and requirements of the school districts in order to implement the program. It brings agreement of all the parties. Amendment 2 is a technical Amendment that changes, I think, a spelling error. I move for the adoption of both Amendments." 09900122.docx 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Those in favor of the adoption of Amendment 1 say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk. Representative, Amendment 2 just got out of Rules, but under our rules we have to wait six more minutes. So, we're going to take your Bill out of the record and come back to it for Amendment 2. You'll be there. Thank you. House Bill 4554, Representative Flowers. Representative Flowers. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Flowers on Amendment 3."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I know of no opposition to House Bill 4554. And what House Bill 4554 would do would have the Department of Medicaid to continue to provide HIV medication and its pres… preventive services as they already do. So what we will be doing is… what this Bill is doing is codifying what HFS is already doing. We're making it law. And I would appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Flowers on Amendment 4." 09900122.docx 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Amendment #4 becomes the Bill, and it removes the requirement for the individual group health insurance to cover HIV."

"Those in favor of Amendment 4 say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4715, Representative Bryant. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Bryant."

"Just briefly tell us what it does."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. The Chair recognizes Representative Bellock for an introduction." 09900122.docx 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Thank you, Representative. And welcome to the House chamber. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 5918, Mr. Thapedi. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Thapedi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I move for the adoption of Floor Amendment #3, which flew out committee this morning with no descending votes. It greatly reflects the ongoing negotiations with all the parties involved. While this particular Amendment does not remove all of the opposition, I'm cautiously optimistic we will get there in the near future. And I move for its adoption."

"Mr. Franks on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields on the Amendment."

"Mr. Thapedi, I appreciate all your work on this; I know you've been working very hard. Was there any further 09900122.docx 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 discussion that there may be an Amendment #5 that could be an agreed Amendment that would take all opposition off this Bill? Are you…"

"Repeat… repeat your question."

"Are you aware that there may be an Amendment #5 coming to be filed on this that would be an agreement between the parties that would take away all opposition?"

"The anticipation is that we will continue to work on this. My hope is that we can do that sooner rather than later and remove some, if not all, of the opposition, if that answers your question."

"Yeah, that's what I'm looking for. Because I'm… I'm told that there might be Amendment #5 coming to the floor shortly, so I was hoping that you would keep this on Second before moving it to Third after we get Amendment #3 adopted. And that way we can keep moving this forward here, because if you move it to Third and there's Amendment #5 that's a… that's agreed, I think it'd be much quicker if we just waited for that Amendment. So my question is would you be willing to… once we adopt this Amendment, would you still hold this on second, so we can wait until we get Amendment #5?"

"Well, let me… let me field some more question, and if you want to come over and talk about the negotiations, I'm… I'm happy to field your questions."

"Okay. Thank you."

"Thank you.

"You're out of time, Representative, there are no other questions. Those in favor of Amendment 3 will say 'yes'; 09900122.docx 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Thapedi, what is your pleasure? Third Reading, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 6162, Mr. Skoog. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Members, we're moving on to Third Reading Bills. House Bill 5576, Representative Nekritz. Representative Nekritz. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This… birth control is one of the most widely used medical services in the United States. In fact, 99 percent of all sexually active women have used at least one type of birth control in their lifetime, 99 percent. However, choosing the right birth control continues to be a difficult and complicated process in which individuals must balance cost, ease of use, and medical factors, including family history and the side effects. Sadly, even with the Affordable Care Act, many women are not able to use the birth control that is best for them without in… incurring some sort of cost sharing. This legislation will ensure that… that women have access to the birth control that works best for them by 09900122.docx 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 reducing administrative barriers and eliminating costs. Since women are more likely to use birth control effectively when they have an option that they're happy with, this will help to decrease unintended pregnancy rates. Just want to emphasize one other thing about this legislation is that there is a… an ex… exemption for employers who do not want to cover these kinds of… these contraceptives. That's… the Supreme Court decision in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby set out the standards for that. There is nothing in this legislation that will change the ability of an employer to exercise their rights under that Supreme Court case. And I ask for your support."

"Mr. Demmer."

"Sponsor yields."

"No, I don't that that's true at all, Representative. I think that this will, you know… this is… there will continue to be a competitive market place for this. And I think that they'll, you know… they're already required to cover this under the Affordable Care Act. This will just remove the barriers that women have in getting access to that coverage. It… they're already required to… to cov… to have all these 09900122.docx 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 available. It's just that a woman has to go through a waiver process to get there."

"Well, I think the testimony we heard in committee was instructive on this that the young woman clearly had a medical necessity, and her doctor was supporting her on that, but she couldn't get through the waiver process. There… they… and it took months, and months, and months. And when a woman is offered birth control or unable to utilize it for months, and months, and months, the consequences are pretty well known, I think."

"That may be, Representative, but this… this is, you know, we… and I will tell you that if you talk to most of the women in this chamber, they will either have had this 09900122.docx 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 experience or know someone that's had this experience of being unable to get through that waiver process. And so it is… this is simply trying to remove that barrier and fulfill the promise of making sure that… that there is access to affordable contraceptives."

"Your request is acknowledged, Sir. Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"Which drug?"

"I… does it have a more common name than that?"

"I don't know that one." 09900122.docx 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Well, it's al… it's already… that drug is already covered under the Affordable Care Act."

"That's my recollection, yes."

"They… the for… for the contra… under… that's what this is intended to do…"

"…is to remove that barrier, so that women can have access to contraceptives, yes."

"I don't… I'm not… I'm assuming you're correct, Representative Breen."

"I don't… I don't know the… the status on all those other drugs."

"It… it does offer that, but the… but the research is very clear that when women have access to a one-year supply that they're more compliant and… and more likely to stay on that. And thus, reducing the unintended pregnancies that I think you so would vehemently want… want to reduce."

"But… but…"

"I don't… I don't get from point a to point b on that. By… they can still go back in and renegotiate for someone who's getting their supply three months later for a different women, but for one woman, yes."

"She… she got sick…"

"…very quickly on it, yes."

"Representative Bellock."

"Sponsor yields."

"I don't… I don’t think that that is… it is… that is not the same waiver process for contraceptives under the Affordable Care Act as every… as all the other waiver process. Under the Affordable Care Act, women submit a request to their doctor, and that has to be approved. So this is a different waiver process than all the other waiver processes."

"That… that's already required under Federal Law. So under… under Federal Law right now, if the… if the woman submits that waiver request to her doc… and the doctor submits that waiver request, the insurance company is supposed to 09900122.docx 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 under the Affordable Care Act say yes and provide that, and provide the alternative. That's clearly not happening. So this is already under Federal Law a separate and very distinct waiver process from what exists for all the other drugs that you're talking about."

"Well, that's… that is my understanding of how the Affordable Care Act works."

"Representative, I think this is completely different. If someone wants to swallow 12 months of birth control pills, they're only going to get sick to their stomach. So this is a very different kind of problem. And I think that, again, that research would show that women are more compliant and read… and… and will stay on the regimen better if they know that that supply is there for them and they have ready access to it."

"Representative Wallace."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"As we listen to some of this debate, I do have a question as to how birth control pills are any different than medication for other ongoing, chronic conditions."

"So I think that the big debate is centered around the difference in the waiver process. So I think… I'm assuming that Representative Bellock is right that it goes before a panel of doctors, and there has to be a decision made there. Already under Federal Law the waiver process is different. It must… it… it simply says that the doctor… once the doctor makes the request, the insurance company must comply with that request. Now, the testimony we heard in committee makes it very clear that the insurance companies are not requi… replying with following that request. And I think, again, as I've talked to… to women in the… in this chamber about that, 09900122.docx 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 they all either have a personal story or know somebody that has had to go through the same rigmarole because the insurance companies are not complying under… with the law under the Affordable Care Act. So this just makes sure that… that we have access to that without a copay."

"Thank you very much. To the Bill. There are a number of disorders that are treated with the use of hormonal medication such as birth control pills, which seems to be the… the center of this discussion, the birth control pill asset… aspect. Some of the things that can be treated with ongoing access to birth control is to help regulate periods, help to provide less painful menstruation, lowers the… the migraines associated with PMS. Individuals who have endometriosis and suffer from painful and heavy periods can be treated with birth control. People with polycystic ovarian syndrome, which causes irregular periods, ovarian cysts and infertility can be treated with birth control. And it helps to lower the risk for some cancers such as ovarian cancer, which has a very high mortality rate and endometrial cancer, which is extremely painful and has a high mortality rate. So we heard the Gentleman for DuPage talk about being pro-life. If we're going to be pro-life, why would we not want to make sure that individuals who need access to these types of medications to reduce the paint that they have in their lives, to lower the chances of cancer that might already be part of their family history. I think we would want to have individuals have access to that. And then let's be very clear. There was a mention of a specific drug called, ella, being an abortion drug or an abortion pill and suggesting that you must take it or can 09900122.docx 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 take it up to two weeks after conception, which simply is not true. If you go yourself to the ella page, you will see that you must that particular pill within five days of unprotected sex. It takes several days for an egg to be fertilized and then to be implanted, and thereby cause pregnancy. So if we're going to have debate, I think we need to be very accurate with the information that we're going to be sharing on this floor. And I think we also cannot just be pro-life when it comes to someone else womb, especially one that you may not have. Therefore, I am asking everybody in this chamber to please vote 'yes' for a Bill, if it's not for yourself, for some of the women in your life, because you never know how any of these things are going to affect someone that you know or love. Thank you."

"Representative Ammons."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"I just want to clarify. Under the current law, if I have a prescription, I have to go back every three months. Do I then have to pay a copay each time I go back to see my doctor to get this new prescription?"

"If… if you're… if you're assigned one birth control pill, then… then you're fine. But if that… if that one doesn't work… if that's… if that doesn't work for you and you have to go off the… the existing formulary because you need a lower does of estrogen or you need something different, then you have to make a copay. And this would jus… this is just trying to say that all those, you know, whatever birth control works for you you can have access to without a copay." 09900122.docx 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Without a copay, which, in that sense, saves money for many, many struggling families to be able to make the changes necessary without a copay. So you can make it…"

"I… I'm sorry, Representative. I missed the question."

"This would allow the changes to be made without me having to pay a copay each and every time I go to make a change."

"Each and every time you go to make a change, correct."

"Correct."

"Yes."

"Thank you. To the Bill. You know, it's almost embarrassing that we have to in 2016 justify why we should have uninterrupted access to the necessary medication we need as women. And to have to reveal myself so personally to get this level of access is almost embarrassing for me as a female. I hope that the men in this audience will just simply consider, not only the inconvenience that it causes us to have to go back, the cost of economic insecurity that it may cause for some families. And others may be able to do this without a problem, but each time we have to pay a copay to go and see a doctor to make a simple change, that is a… a hardship on families who may have as many resources. So I would hope people would consider that in 2016 I think people, specifically women, can make this decision and can make this change without causing too much interruption, certainly to the insurance industry and to others who are not, unfortunately, having to make this decision. So, thank you, and I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Cassidy." 09900122.docx 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To follow up on the previous speaker, it is embarrassing. Those of us who were in that hearing know exactly how embarrassing it was. I sat there and initially heard from a panel of women speaking to their personal experiences: some of the… the terrible side effects they experienced, the long waits, the… the humiliating questions that they had to endure in order to get access to appropriate medication. I've experienced the same thing utilizing birth control for… to treat some of the conditions that were talked about and to establish my fertility so that my children could be born. We all know that I'm not a regular birth control user. I am a nontraditional user of that medication. And I had to switch several times to get one that didn't get me incredibly sick. So I could completely relate to the story told by the woman who… who became violently, violently ill and then had to go through hoops, and hoops, and hoops to finally get access to the right medication. Insult to injury came along in that hearing when a panel of white men sat down to talk about how important it is to manage the costs of being inside my uterus. It was… it was jarring, quite frankly, that we are here in 2016, and I am still being told by a panel of white men what belongs in my body. Preach, Jack. This is very simply about the dignity of the relationship between a woman and her doctor, access to appropriate health care, trusting women to make their own health care decisions, and giving women the access to important medication that will keep them healthy and well. I strongly urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Feigenholtz." 09900122.docx 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Nekritz, I was not in committee when there were a panel of women testifying. I'm sorry I missed that part of the testimony. From what Representative Cassidy just expressed, I'm cer… certainly not sorry I missed that other panel. But I'd like to know what they… what they shared with you. I think it's important for everyone in this room to understand that it's very, very… this is… finding the right birth control is very difficult. Some women are, you know, built differently, our hormones are different, and everything doe… it's not a one size fits all prospect. Is that what you heard in committee?"

"I'm sorry, Representative, which panel were you referring to that you wanted me to…"

"The… the women that were…"

"Oh, for the women, yes."

"…expressing… I… I wasn't there."

"The… the young woman that came to the… to the committee to speak had exactly the kind of experience that the former speaker just mentioned as well. She had… she had been prescribed one type of birth control pill that really just made her sick as a dog, and she was told to go off of it. And… and then she tried to go through the waiver process that is prescribed under the Affordable Care Act and was met with roadblock after roadblock and was still I… my recollection is that it still… it's now seven or eight months later and she is still fighting with her insurance company to get what she is supposed to get by law under the Affordable Care Act." 09900122.docx 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"And… and statistically, when a woman is unable to change from one form of contraception to the other, do you have any data on what are her chance of getting pregnant and having a unwanted pregnancy because of all of these hurdles that women have to go through that Representative Cassidy… I mean, do you have any… I think you mentioned something earlier."

"I'm not sure I have data on that, but it's pretty clear I think we, you know… we… we've known since Adam and Eve what happens when… when women don't have access to the… the pre… reproductive health care they need."

"One of the previous speakers talked about a list of what… I believe that this is all federally… the FDA has approved all these drugs as contraception. This is not inclusive an abortifacient. So I want to be clear that this is contraception. There are no abortifacients on this list."

"The… the…"

"I think somebody misinformed the chamber when he was opining on the Bill. Please clarify."

"Yes. This… we… we do only cover contraception that are approved… contraceptives that are approved by the FDA. And the… the pill that the Gentleman was speaking to is defined by the FD… as I understand it, is defined by the FDA as a contraceptive."

"To the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, we stand on this floor and try to give people access to health care. And for women to ultimately be the determiner… the determiners of their… their lives, if they're in school, if they're a gra… if they're involved in family planning and 09900122.docx 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 they want to space babies adequately so they have healthy births, if they have issues with their menstrual cycles, this is the kind of legislation we need to pass to avoid unwanted pregnancies and to deal with economic independence for women. There is nothing in this Bill that does not align with the FDA, nothing in this Bill that does not align with the Affordable Care Act. So I encourage everyone to support it, if they support women."

"Mr. Kay."

"Sponsor yields."

"For a what kind of condition?"

"Oh, you said chronic?"

"Oh, they… it… it can be, for sure."

"Well, I… I would refer to… to Dr. Wallace to… she… she could say the… the words in those conditions much better than I could. But there are… there are a number of conditions that women experience for which birth control pills are the… the treatment."

"So my… so I'm… I'm just told by one of my female colleagues that it's… that migraines is one of those conditions." 09900122.docx 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Is there any morality?"

"Well, maybe… maybe you're familiar with that, you're a business owner."

"I'm like…"

"…I'm just a Legislator."

"I don't do research."

"Nor am I."

"And… and…"

"…and that is… that is their right, and we don't change…"

"…a thing…"

"…about that in this Bill."

"No, they…" 09900122.docx 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"No, Sir, they are not. Floor Amendments 1 and 2 remove their opposition."

"Sir, they already do. Medicaid already covers this, and both the Medicaid director under the prior Governor and Medicaid director under this Governor believe that this is right thing to do for our Medicaid recipients to reduce unintended pregnancies. And so Medicaid already does this. So we're already… that's… that's not a… that's not an issue here."

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"Sponsor yields."

"Well, most doctors already prescribe 12 months of… of a birth control pill. And no, there is no immunity in here for that."

"And I would think that good medical practice would dictate that you might do a shorter period until… until you figure out which pill actually works."

"It does not. But I… I will tell you…"

"…that I… I had the occasion to speak with a group of gynecologists and obstetricians that were down here last week, and they could not have been happier about this piece of legislation, including this particular provision." 09900122.docx 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"I… I'm sorry, Representative, I just couldn't quite…"

"I… I do, and I'm pleased to have the support of the State Medical Society on this legislation as well."

"Well, I… I think they could be disposed… they could be disposed of in the same way that… that responsible people would dispose of medication."

"Well, Representative, I don't think we want to go down the path of… if we're going to do that with birth control Bills, that we would do that with all medication. And so far, this… this Body has chosen not to do that."

"Mr. Morrison."

"Mr. Guzzardi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"One quick question for the Gentlelady Sponsor. Does this Bill in any way contravene the Supreme Court decision in the Hobby Lobby case?"

"No, Sir, it does not. It… it leaves that… that protection for those employers in place."

"Can you just expand upon that for a little bit further? I want to make sure that we're all clear in the chamber…"

"Sure."

"…about that." 09900122.docx 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"So under the Affordable Care Act, certain employer types, like houses of worship and rel… religiously affiliated non-profit organizations, are… are allowed to request an exemption from the requirement to provide coverage for contraception. And the Supreme Court decision in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby extended this right to an exemption to closely held for-profit corporations. So there's a… a mechanism by which the employer has to complete the form to do that, to self-certify that they qualify for the exemption and have a religious… a religious objecting… objection to providing some or all contraception. This has to be submitted to their health insurance carrier or to the Department of Health and Human Services. This is a federal process and will remain available to qualifying employees when this becomes law."

"Thank you."

"Thank you."

"Briefly to the Bill. Really the only reason I wanted to rise and speak here is that all of the folks who have spoken on behalf of this Bill so far have been women. And I think it's pretty important for us to send a message to the folks who are watching this debate, that this isn’t just an issue that women support, that there are men in this chamber, too, who think that women's health is important for us and important for men in the State of Illinois. Thank you very much."

"Representative Bryant."

"Sponsor yields." 09900122.docx 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Representative Wallace, you already spoke in debate. For what reason do you rise?"

"Well, I was mentioned again. But I just want to say one quick thing, if possible."

"Was your name mentioned in debate?"

"Yes, it was."

"Then go ahead."

"Oh, I know. Here come those pesky facts. Such as the fact that having access to birth control does not make someone promiscuous. And I'm wondering… I'm wondering from the Sponsor if erectile dysfunction drugs are covered without interruption and without some of these loopholes."

"Representative, this does not… the legislation does not deal with erectile dysfunction drugs, and I… it's my 09900122.docx 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 understand… I don't know that they're covered under the Affordable Care Act."

"I was simply wondering because I think that under the Affordable Care Act, if I recall correctly, they are. And those are things being covered by employers. And so we're having this whole argument, again, making this distinction between medications that women may need access to completely different from the medications that men need access to. And yes, there are chronic conditions. We are harping on contraception, and if there is no conception, because you're protected through contraception, then there's no abortion of this… I don't know what the word is even. There's no affect in that way. So, again, we need to be very clear about the facts and not just say things because they sound great or because we read it somewhere on a pamphlet that didn't have any citations from a read medical journal or anything like that. So I just think we really, really have gone so far away from what the intent of this Bill is, which is to just make sure women have access to the medications that they need and have the proper ability to not have to jump through a million hoops, harm themselves economically, as was stated before, and again, allow for the prevention of some cancers, the treatment of some extremely painful and chronic diseases to occur without having to constantly pay for copays. If this were any other type of medical condition, any other type of medication, we would not be having this argument at all. It would just be a given, but again, in 2016 women still have to justify access to the things that we need to be functionally equitable in this society and in this… I don't know. I just 09900122.docx 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 don't understand what's going on in here. I do encourage an 'aye' vote. And let's get past this embarrassing, embarrassing debate in 2016 about what a fully grown adult can do with their body, especially if they have a diagnosed condition that requires medication."

"Representative Willis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. As a mother of three young women, one who actually had a medical condition and went on to birth control pills during her high school, I take offense to my colleague on the right's statement that women that use birth control pills are promiscuous. I do not think my 14-year-old daughter was a promiscuous, young woman. I think she was a young woman that had painful cycles and needed to be put on a regulated, hormone pill. I encouraged her to do that. I helped to do that. We worked with the doctor to do that. She has seen the doctor every year since that, every 12 months, to renew that pill, and now that she is an older woman, she uses it for what is best for her. It is her body. It is her right to make those decisions, just like I feel that it is every woman's right to make the decision of what type of birth control, if any, they choose to use. That is what this Bill is about, giving women the right to make the best decisions with their doctors of what is best for them. It is not saying that you would necessarily need to use this; it's saying you have the right to make those right decisions. And I think that's why we all need to give women the right and to have equity in their life and make what is best decision for them. And I urge an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

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"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Elaine, I… I wasn't going to speak, but I couldn't believe some of the debate. I was astounded by some of the debate. So, I wanted to ask… I want to bring this back to what this Bill is about because we heard a lot about the Bill wasn't about. It's not about promiscuity. It's not about a question of life. It's… this is about medical… medical coverage."

"It… it… yes."

"As I'm reading this, will this Bill make Illinois consistent with Federal Law?"

"I… I believe that to be true, yes."

"Okay. And will this Bill clear up any ambiguity in Federal Law which has led to inconsistent an… and inadequate contraceptive coverage?"

"I… I don't think it's quite an ambiguity in Federal Law. It's an ambiguity in the… in the way the insurance companies have been implementing Federal Law. And they… and I think they've been violating Federal Law, and so this will make sure that they can longer violate Federal Law."

"That was my next question, because I don't believe this is a new mandate of coverage…"

"It… it is not."

"…whatsoever."

"It is clearly not a new mandate."

"So we're not asking them to do anything they'll already not required to do. We're clearing up some ambiguities."

"That is correct, Sir." 09900122.docx 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Okay. And I could tell you, I passed a law here years ago because I'm asthmatic. And at that time, we passed a law that allows asthmatics to have additional inhalers. Because at one time, the insurance companies would only cover one. I'm like, well, you don't always carry your inhaler with you. So we passed a law to allow to have additional inhalers; not just one. What you're doing here is saying, okay, you're… for those that are getting contraceptive coverage, you get it for a year. I… I think that's totally an analogous of what we've done on many other occasions when it comes to medical conditions. Wouldn't you agreed?"

"I would."

"Okay. So, folks, this is not a new mandate. There's been a lot of extraneous talk about things that have really nothing to do with this Bill. I understand it's titillating to talk about sex on the House Floor, but this is not something to be taken lightly. This… these are people's bodies that we're talking about. These are people's individual rights. These are people's health care decisions, and they need the ability to make those decisions unfettered with their doctor. So why don't we allow the professionals to make those decisions and let the patient make those decisions with their doctors. There's no other vote other than 'aye'."

"Mr. Andersson."

"Representative Nekritz to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I… I appreciate the date… the debate on this. Just a few closing points. When I… I want to make sure that… that the FDA is not a religious organization. It is a scientific… it's populated with scientists. And this is what the scientists have determined are… is what is a contraceptive. This is not my definition; this is not the 09900122.docx 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 definition of a political Body. It's the definition that the scientists have given to… to contraceptives. I just would like to reiterate with regard to the waiver. This is already required under Federal Law. We are simply making sure that it is implemented in the way that the Federal Law was intended and that the insurance companies cannot throw up unintended barriers. And… this does not, again, this does not force religious organizations to cover birth control. The waivers that are in place remain in place. The cost I think we, you know, we… we haven't had a lot of debate about the cost, but clearly the cost of an unintended pregnancy, however that comes out, whether a woman carries it to term or not, is way more expensive than birth control. And finally, I… I can't help myself, you know, it… it takes two to be promiscuous. I don't need birth control. You don't need birth control for whatever you might do in the privacy of your own, you know, by yourself, but it takes two to be promiscuous. And birth control pills have nothing to do with that. I urge… this is ridiculous that we would even be talking about that in the year 2016. I hope for you 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Demmer has asked for a verification. Members will be in their chairs and vote their own switches. Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 61 voting 'yes', 52 voting 'no'. And Mr. Demmer has asked for a verification. Mr. Clerk, please read the roll of the affirmative." 09900122.docx 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Mr. Clerk, Mr. Demmer is withdrawing his request for a verification. On this question, there are 61 voting 'yes', 62… 50… Let's start over. 61 voting 'yes', 52 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3239, Mr. Andrade. Mr. Andrade. Please read the Bill." 09900122.docx 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Mr. Andrade."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 3239 it's… it's an agreed Bill with the Chicago Public Schools. This Bill only affects local school's councils in Chicago. It amends the… the Code for local school councils. It changes the definition of community resident, allowing a 17-year-old to run for election as a community resident of only a local school council in the City of Chicago. This Bill does not… does not apply to any school board. I ask for a 'yes', if there's no other questions."

"Mr. Pritchard."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yeah. So cur… currently there is 12 members on a local school council. There is… we have 6 parents, 2 teachers, 1 non-teacher staff, the school's principal, a student representative, which is a non-voting member and he's not voted upon, and 2 community residents. So out of those 2 community residents, they can now be 17 years old."

"They have the ability to run for the local school council if they live within the school boundary of that school." 09900122.docx 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"That is correct. They could be a magnet school. It could be a neighborhood school. So there's other schools that he can… that he can run or she, the community resident can run. So it allows them to have the ability. One of the… the issue that I bring this up is because in some of these local school council races, they… the community residents they're lacking actual people who are running for this position. Sometimes they have no community residents. And one of the goals is that if we start the youth at 17, hopefully the goal is that they will be par… participating in civic participation and that will carry over to when they're 18, 19, 20 and be productive citizens of our country and our state. And so I'm hoping that this is what this Bill does. It initiates, it involves, and brings attention to our students."

"There is no opposition to the Bill."

"It was drafted… this Bill…"

"Pardon me?"

"They're… the Chicago… this Bill was drafted along with Chicago Public Schools, and it was with their… with their staff. It was drafted, the Bill. They actually expanded it. 09900122.docx 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 I… I was thinking such… a smaller, but they also feel the need to involve our students. Currently, a 17-year-old can vote for a President, as long as he turns 18. This Bill will not go into effect until the next election, which is 2 years from now."

"Thank you."

"Representative…"

"Thank you very much."

"…Ives."

"Sponsor yields."

"If… if he… you know, if I believe if any student graduates and is a teacher by the time he's 17, he has probable capability if you finish college at the age of 17. I think…"

"Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please… Stewart. Please take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'yes', 3 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having 09900122.docx 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 6013… Excuse me, Mr. Clerk. Chair recognizes Representative Barbara Wheeler."

"Please proceed." Wheeler, B.: "About a year ago my district was devastated by the death of an officer and then the ongoing scandal that followed the story up in Fox Lake and the gra… Grant Township area. And the area has been, without using the word devastation, I'm not exaggerating, the area's been devastated. But last week we did have great news. One of our own, Daniel Dennis, from Grant Community High School, a long… life-long resident of Fox Lake qualified for the 2016 Olympic Games in Rio for freestyle wrestling at 125 pounds. I don't know whether I'm more impressed with the 125 pounds or the Olympic qualifying for 2016. He's a two-time state finalist from Grant High School. He went to Iowa. He was a two-time all-American there. He took some time off, and truly was an underdog story for him to win last week and qualify for Rio. So this weekend we're going to be having parades and fundraisers et cetera, and hopefully today we'll be supporting the Resolution that congratulates him. So thank you very much."

Speaker Lang: "Thank you, Representative. House Bill 6044, Representative Chapa LaVia. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Thank you, Speaker, and Members of the committee… I mean of the chamber. This is some clean-up language which 09900122.docx 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 that I was given to by ISBE. It's one of their main pieces this year, but which… what it does is it… it… the State Board of Education initiative that makes changes to obsolete and duplicative language in the School Code. The changes are intended to streamline School Code pro… provisions and amend and repeal outdated, or otherwise, problematic provisions. I'll take any questions."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4477, Mr. Davis. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 4477 is an initiative of a… of a small business contractor that does a lot of work with IDOT. There are a number of issues that we are ultimately trying to correct as it relates to helping small business vendors that do road construction and work with IDOT. Of the many issues, this one rose to the top. So IDOT has the ability to offer something called mobilization payments when they let contacts. It's a percentage of the contract awarded to the contractor that allows for some upfront costs so they have need the ability to run equipment, possibly to hire if they workers. It… it's already established in law that 09900122.docx 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 mobilizations payments, which are percentage of the original contract. Well, the subcontractor, the small business gentleman said, well, if there's a way that which we can allow for, in some cases, a little more money on the front end of the contract, that helps too. That way we're not still waiting for the contractor to… to be paid on the back end, so that we can then pay those bills that incur doing the… the process of providing the service. So he drafted a Bill, which calls for what are called tiered mobilization payments, which specify a percentage of the contract based on the overall amount of the contract. So the language that you should have in front of you, which was House Floor Amendment #3 that we adopted yesterday, which became the Bill, should offer a percentage of tiered mobilization payments, which we think will be helpful to sma… to small subcontractors when they have the opportunity to work on IDOT payments. And we'll be more than happy to answer any questions."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Thank you, Sir. Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Will, I understand what you're trying to do. I think it makes perfect sense. My… my question is, do your Amendments take away the opposition of the two listed opponents?" Davis, W.: "You're talking about CDB and CMS?"

"No, it was Illinois Asphalt Pavement Association and the Illinois Road and Transportation Builders Association." Davis, W.: "Well, I can tell you, if you see them as opposition, they did not want to attempt to talk to me about this Bill. So I guess in that respect, I would… I would say it doesn't necessarily move their opposition, but they never attempted to talk to me about it. I think maybe their opposition is just philosophical in nature. But again, some of our challenges on behalf of small vendors is because of the relationships that they have with the larger vendors."

"Right." Davis, W.: "And… and we filed another Bill, which attempted to try to deal with a number of those, but those are just really too big. So this is the one that rose to the top that we attempted to move forward to really be able to help small vendors. This really does not have an impact on large vendors like the ones that I think are members of that organization. 09900122.docx 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 It doesn't stop them from doing business the way that they've been doing it. Again, this is to help small vendors to be able to, when they're selected to work on these contracts, to give them an extra…"

"To get some money." Davis, W.: "…resource."

"To get some money upfront, so they can start…" Davis, W.: "Yeah."

"…gearing up for it." Davis, W.: "So they can start gearing up for it."

"I get it. I get it. I… I had some of the things come through our committee, through State Government, last year on some design Bill…" Davis, W.: "Yes."

"…and that type of thing. So I just wanted to see how this dovetailed with that. And I… and I agree with your premise. I just wanted to know what the opposition was…" Davis, W.: "Well…"

"…on the other ones." Davis, W.: "…I think that's their opposition, But again, they never reached out to me directly, so I couldn't specifically say what their opposition is."

"Well, I'd encourage them to after this Bill passes, and if they have some concerns, maybe talk to the Senate Sponsor as well." Davis, W.: "Absolutely."

"Thank you." Davis, W.: "Thank you."

"Mr. Davis to close." 09900122.docx 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Again, I think a way to help small vendors, we encourage minority participation in our programs, particularly that with IDOT. And what we see here is a way to help encourage that small business participation, so that when we spend those resources roads and bridges are a big emphasis of what we do here, in terms of infrastructure in the State of Illinois. And, again, this is a way we think will help small businesses and encourages more participation from small businesses when we let those projects. I ask for your support. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 108 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no', 3 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 6057, Mr. Harris. Mr. Harris. Out of the record. House Bill 4149, Leader Currie. Out of the record. House Bill 5907, Mr. DeLuca. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. DeLuca."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. This is the Guaranteed Asset Waiver Protection Act. And what it does it extends a current exemption for state banks and credit unions and also clarifies that this is an optional program. I ask for your support. Thank you."

"Mr. Sandack." 09900122.docx 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Sponsor yields."

"Yeah, you're correct. They did come late. And I did speak with them, and I do make that assurance."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'yes' and 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5973, Mr. Evans. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Evans."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of this great Assembly. House Bill 5973 amends the following acts: Funeral Directors 09900122.docx 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 and Embalmers Licensing Code, the Illinois Roofing Industry Licensing Act, the Barber, Cosmetology, Esthetics, Hair Braiding, and Nail Technology Act of 1985. This Bill has been worked on with a lot of parties. We're about 95 percent there. We removed, in the Amendments, the realtors and the CPAs. This Bill sets in form a… the way in which license are… licenses are… individuals with backgrounds are allowed to receive professional license in three categories. I ask for your support,"

"Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes."

"Yeah. What I would say is they had a meeting this… today with the Governor's Office, Safer Foundation, Illinois Policy Institute. I think this Bill is a… is consistent with the recommendations of the Governor's commission on criminal justice and recidivism reform. I think that issues we have now is probably listed out some of the offenses. I would like to keep in full discretion of the problem, but they don't want to get into a trick bag. You know how things are. So we're probably going to end up listing out some of the offenses. So we don't want, for example, for a roofer, I wouldn't want an individual with a criminal trespass in a 09900122.docx 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 residential property. So we're going to work out that full listing of offenses, and hopefully get a 100 percent agreed Bill when it comes back on Concurrence."

"Oh, yeah, without question. We're… we're 95 percent there. Just laying out those particulars. We don't want to license people who don't deserve licenses. We just want to provide opportunities, not make mistakes."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Brady."

"Yeah, please."

"Yeah, thanks for asking. We… we initially started these conversations. I wanted to do everyone. But I think when you look at schools and hospitals and health care professions, you want to co… take those people out now. And I think we have five good categories. I took out the realtors and CPAs, 09900122.docx 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 because they're dealing with a lot of personal, sensitive matters. We have to start somewhere. I think when you look at these three professions, it gives folks with a background kind of an opportunity to prove themselves. I think this is incremental growth in this Body, so we chose these three, hoping that these professions could be a showcase to the many others that folks with backgrounds deserve opportunities."

"Yeah. Well… well, the profession did not come out in opposition. I think the Governor's Office, myself, these various professions want to open up doors and opportunities. They're cautious. I'm happy that this profession and it's… would give folks the opportunity."

"Yeah. What would happen…"

"Yeah. Well, the way… the way the Bill is… the Bill is now written individual would apply for a license. They will be flagged in many cases. When they're flagged, they'll be directed to an intent to deny process. On to my legislation, 09900122.docx 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 if it's not directly related, then they will be allowed to get their license. Now, again, as it directly… as it stands, if it's not sustainably related. So, for example, if a person has a background, maybe drugs or something like that, a nonviolent offense, they won't be stopped. They'll go and get their license. But how it stands now, they could be potentially be stopped. They have to go to a hearing. So it could be a four or five month process before an individual is given an opportunity to practice and be a member of society."

"Yeah."

"Yeah. But the… But if I may."

"Oh, please. I'm sorry."

"Yeah. No."

"And I'm glad you asked. Yeah, but those are the individuals who choose to… to apply and kind of continue 09900122.docx 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 through the process. So what's not encapsulated is individuals that are discouraged from applying. And what's also not encapsulated is individuals who choose not to participate in the intent to deny process. So if you don't want… so if you have a background, and you… just think about it, folks with backgrounds may not be the most motivated individuals. We don't want to set up additional barriers. The intent to deny process is an intimidating process. I mean, I'll show you the letter in which you receive for intent to deny. Many folks, in a lot of cases, in which we can't really encapsulate, may not go to a hearing three or four months later just to be told possibly no. So we don't have those stats, but we will now, because when folks are denied, even if the department chooses to deny, and some probably should be denied the department will have to continue to hold stats to show, and they'll explain to a person. And hopefully maybe that person can take some steps to clear up their record or do what needs to be done to come back and try again. So I think this Bill kind of sets up some good guidelines, and the department would agree, we just need to fine-tune what those are."

"Well, that is… well, that is the hope. But as I mentioned, we're going to go over to the Senate to kind of list some no- go offenses. So we're going to kind of put a little bit more structure to it, as far as offenses that wouldn't be eligible in this new kind of way of looking at it." 09900122.docx 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Exactly. And, again, it doesn't take full discretion. We have great folks working in our departments who can do this analysis, and we want them to do it. But we want them to do it kind of with an open mind, because we want to get folks off the sidelines and get them, working."

"Thank…"

"Thank you."

"Representative Wheeler." Wheeler, B.: "A question for the Sponsor?"

"Sponsor yields." Wheeler, B.: "Thank you. Representative, I'm… I'm working through another Bill for human trafficking, and it's for massage therapists and for nail techs. And we're finding that victims of human trafficking, whether it be a labor with nail techs 09900122.docx 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 or sex trafficking with massage therapists, oftentimes you'll have the owner involved in money laundering which is difficult to… to prove. But the problem is the victims of human trafficking are the ones that hold the nail tech license, and they're the ones that own the Illinois state massage license. And then when they come in and they're charged for solicitation or for fraudulently making copies of license for, whether it's for massage and for nail tech, the victims of human trafficking are not the ones we want to penalize. It's the owner. Does this address it? And by the way, there's no business license in the State of Illinois for massage therapy or for nail tech salons. There's a registration but not a license. Does this address any of that, in regard to victims of human trafficking who are… we don't want to victimize again, but we want to address the larger problem with the… the whether it be a solicitation crime, or a mundle… money laundering crime, or a fraudulent business practice crime?"

"Yeah. One hundred percent, it has nothing that relates to… to what you mentioned. I think that would… I would categorize that at a most extreme. The Bill leaves the department's discretion. In the Senate we're going to list those things. For example, if you're concerned about an owner of a barber shop being a sex trafficker, over in the Senate, we can list sex trafficking as a conviction in which a person cannot get a lie… get a license. So I think in these most extreme cases is why we're going to continue to work on the legislation. We'll list the most extreme. Talking to the DOC, sex trafficking is not one of the… most of the convicted… 09900122.docx 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 convictions is usually a drug-related or some sort of violent crime. So that's going to be the vast majority of folks, but I'm open to listing sex trafficking." Wheeler, B.: "Well, an… and money laundering. I… I'm…"

"And money laundering." Wheeler, B.: "…struggling so much in regard to how to deal with the owners and not the victims. I don't want penalize them. I want to get them out of the… the industry and in somewhere safe. And I'm… I'm… maybe you and I can work on something like that because it's really the owners of the businesses that are… are creating the larger crime."

"Definitely open to that in another piece of legislation." Wheeler, B.: "Thank you."

"Thank you."

"Representative Ammons."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Can I clarify just for legislative intent? This Bill… the purpose of this Bill is to allow people who may have been formally incarcerated or have felony convictions to access licensing in certain professional industries."

"Yes."

"And one of our Members just described some circumstances that may seem to be extreme. Have you looked at the number of convictions and the type of convictions that this legislation would help people with?"

"Yeah. I think that would be putting the cart before the horse. We haven't gotten there. Hopefully, that when it… as it currently stands it's going to be the discretion of the 09900122.docx 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 department. But over in the Senate, we're hoping, as we start the conversations today, this morning, to list out those kind of no-go convictions. But as it stands, it would be the discretion of the department, full discretion of the department, because I believe in them."

"I appreciate it. To the Bill. The Governor has been working diligently with his criminal justice and reform commission to look at low-level offenders, to look at ways to reduce incarceration, to look at ways to reenter people into society and give them an opportunity. I think this Bill actually should be called the Opportunity of 2016 Act that would allow, not just thousands, but maybe hundreds of thousands of people in Illinois, who may have been convicted some 20 years ago of whatever offense they may have experienced, but they have been barred from practicing real estate, even though they may be amply qualified to be a realtor. They may not have been convicted for anything in relationship to realty, but they are barred from practicing as a realtor. I get many calls from my off… to my office, and I'm sure some of you do as well, from people who want to get licenses as barbers, cosmetologists, a realtor was the last one that I had, that have done the coursework to become that profession… to be in that profession, but cannot get over the hurdle that General Assemblies before us have structured to keep people economically dependent on the state and not independent. And this Bill, as an Opportunity 2016 Act I call it, I thank the Sponsor for this Bill, because this Bill has the potential to help people to support their families, to restructure society in a more fair and equitable way, and to 09900122.docx 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 remove barriers in front of people that we claim we don't want to go back to prison. So I urge an 'aye' vote for this legislation. And I support my colleague in his efforts to provide some balance and equity in this situation. Thank you."

"Mr. Brown."

"Thank you, Sir. Mr. Morrison."

"Mr. Evans to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you to all of the groups: the Safer Foundation, the Illinois Policy Institute, the Governor's Office, all of the groups that… and all of my chief 09900122.docx 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 cosponsors that look at the work through this legislation. And I would like to commend the Governor's commission on criminal sentencing… excuse… excuse me, criminal justice and recidivism reform. Work is being done. Please help me to continue that. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 80 voting 'yes', 31 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognized Representative Williams."

"Can I make a point of personal privilege, please?"

"Yes, you may."

"I wanted to announce some very special guests here today. My Pages for the day are Noah and Evan Lambert, who are joining us from Bell Elementary School, another one of our stellar CPS schools. We had a great conversation this morning about CPS, the funding crisis in the state and on the city level. They've got a lot of great thoughts and ideas, which I'll be taking with me through the rest of Session. So thank you for… for your time down here and welcome."

Speaker Lang: "Thank you. Welcome. Chair recognizes Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record show that Representative Soto is excused for the remainder of the day."

Speaker Lang: "Thank you, Representative. House Bill 4013, Representative Feigenholtz. Out of the record. House Bill 5010, Representative Feigenholtz. Please read the Bill." 09900122.docx 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Representative Feigenholtz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last year this chamber passed Senate Bill 125, which dealt with the issue of animal exposure. This was… this is a trailer Bill, and it is going to the Senate with the support of the Farm Bureau, the depart… I should say, they're neutral… the veterinarians, the Department of Agriculture, and other animal advocates."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields."

"So the Amendment that we adopted yesterday, Representative Sandack, and the Bill itself, is an effort to address an issue of drilling down and further defining exposure to not only help a per… some of the field inspectors who see animals, but also, they have… they… we've added language yesterday that… we have to… they have to go see a vet, and the vet has to determine or diagnose this animal whether or not it's in danger for exposure."

"There's one… there's one word that needs to be changed. And since we've run out of time, we've agreed to do 09900122.docx 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 this in the Senate. And the veterinarians have… want to change the word determine to diagnosed, and everyone's okay with that."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members, please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 104 voting 'yes', 6 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present.' And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 6041, Mr. Moffitt. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Moffitt."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of Postponed Consideration, there appears House Bill 6328, Mr. Turner. Please proceed, Sir."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. This Bill was previously discussed a couple of days ago, but I wanted to go back over a couple things, make a few points, and discuss some of the progress that has been made in discussions with fellow Members and the Illinois State Police concerning House Bill 6328. So, first, House Bill 6328 allows individuals with prior convictions to file a petition to expunge a new criminal offense if the person was either released without charge, acquitted of the offense, the charge was dismissed, or if there's no disciplinary action taken by the courts. The second thing House Bill 6328 would do would be to remove the fees for persons filing for petitions for expungement with records sought to be expunged was the result of an arrest with no charge, acquittal, dismissal, reversal, or overturned. This Bill would not expand who is eligible for sealing or expungement. Only those offenses currently as eligible for expungement could be expunged. This Bill would 09900122.docx 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 not allow anyone filing a petition to automatically have their records cleared, and it would not clear any prior convictions. Notice is still given to the state's attorney, State Police, and any other relevant authority, so afford them the opportunity to review the petition and make objections to the application if they feel the petitioner imposes a continuing risk to public safety and should not have their record expunged. Judges will continue to vet every application, as the current law provides. Only if a judge, with the agreement of the law enforcement officials determines that the expungement should be ordered would it be so. I know that there are some fiscal concerns regarding the second portion of my Bill. And I've had discussions with the Illinois State Police about those and made the commitment to continue to work with the State Police in addressing the $500 thousand that was… that it… that was retained from… from the expungements in… in the last year. I, you know, I've made the case that… that the 500 thousand is a small portion in relation to ISP's, the Illinois State Police's budget of, you know, 200, almost $250 million, but I understand things are… are tight right now, and fiscal concerns are very real. And I'd like to work with the State Police in addressing some of those concerns and figuring out how we can pay for this because I believe it's that important. And whether that's in the Senate, if this Bill is lucky enough to move out of this chamber or going forward with trailer leg… legislation. Through my discussions, we've been able to come up with some ideas to sort of address this. And I'd like to work with them on that going forward. I don't want to… I don't want to put 09900122.docx 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 it on people… the government's budget. I… I just don't think it should be, you know, balanced or made on the backs of the people who depend on these services. So my commitment though is to continue to work the State Police to deal with the fiscal issues involved in this Bill. I'd be happy to entertain any questions. Thank you."

"Leader Durkin."

"Mr. Andersson."

"Sponsor yields." 09900122.docx 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Thank you. Thank you, Representative. That's a great question. The main goal is to give people a second chance. You know, the biggest issue that I hear, one of the largest issues that I get from my constituents is jobs. They need opportunities to get a job. They want to become a productive part of society. They want to get their lives together. And you know, arrests on your records… on your record ends up being a hindrance or a deterrent from… for employers sometimes from hiring you. And jobs, and this is just about giving people a second chance, a second opportunity to get their life right, right the ship. People do things in their, you know, when they're young and 10, 20, 30 years later, they're not the same person. They have families and things that they're trying to do. And this will give them the opportunity to work on that and go forward. So that's all expungement legislation is about. It's something that's been very important to me. In my short tenure here in the General Assembly, it's something I've worked on for youth, and now we're trying to push it and go forward. Criminal justice reform is important to everyone: the Governor, all of our constituents, everyone in this chamber. And this is not going to right this ship or make it all better, but it's the first step. And that's why it's important to me."

"No, Sir. It still goes through the normal vetting process. You know, there's still the review by the State Police, by the judges. It doesn't expedite any of those processes or make anything automatic. They sti… The petitioner still has to file the petition and the arresting agencies and whatnot. So…"

"…it's all staying the same."

"None of that will change."

"None of the current law in that respect will change."

"Yes. Yes, Sir, he can, absolutely. If the state's attorney brings that to the judge's attention or State Police makes that catch in their review of the applications, that can all be brought to the… to the court's attention, and the… the expungement could not be approved at that point, if they so choose."

"Representative Ives."

"Sponsor yields."

"So expungement is currently available and offered now in Illinois, and there's a review process that… that the State Police goes through. And you know, as it relates to FOID cards and those applications or anything, we're… we're not changing anything about that process right now. And this… this change that we're making to expungements, we’re removing the barrier of a prior conviction to allow a person to expunge a new charge, which resolved in no disciplinary action taken by the courts. You know, I'm not… I'm not sure if that is going to 09900122.docx 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 affect policy. And also it's just been brought to my attention that usually the offenses that are brought up under a FOID or would, you know, keep somebody from having a FOID card, or have their FOID card revoked, usually aren't expungable offenses."

"No, Representative. If it… if it's not an expungable offense right now, then it won't be with the passage of this Bill either."

"Right."

"Absolutely."

"Yes, they do. They do, Representative."

"All right."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields."

"Right." 09900122.docx 80  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Right."

"Right."

"Well, if… if ISP can't do their job, then that, you know, it makes my Bill almost irrelevant, if they can't do the expungements that need to be done."

"So I want to continue."

"Right."

"Right. I understand."

"There's a cost associated with it. You know, ISP's representative down here, John Thompson, has been great and very easy to work with. And you know, I want to continue to work with him going forward to make sure that we have… if we have to create a funding source or… or whatever's need… whatever it takes to make sure that they can do their job. That's important to me. I want to make sure…"

"Yeah, it's critical."

"Absolutely. Absolutely."

"Absolutely."

"That's right."

"Yep. This… this Bill will… the first portion of the Bill would open up… make it available for more people to apply for applications and petition for expungement. All of those petitioners, some of them won’t be eligible for the fee waiver 09900122.docx 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 involved in this. And there's a pretention that… there's a potential that, you know, that some of the fiscal issues could be mitigated by, you know, having additional people be able to apply for expungement, and they may have to pay the fee. But either way, we want to make sure they have the resources. ISP has the resources needed…"

"…to… to do their job. And that's my commitment that I'm going to continue to work on that going forward, Representative."

"Yes, Sir."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Kay."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, we're not changing any of the expungable offenses. You know, if… if it's not currently expungable right now, it will not be with the passage of this Bill going forward."

"Okay." 09900122.docx 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Okay."

"For offenses that are not expunged by the ATF or on the federal side?"

"Representative…"

"I… I believe so. If it's out there now…"

"…that… we're not changing anything on the federal level…"

"…whatever they're doing. We're just working with what we can do right here in Illinois…"

"…around this issue."

"Okay."

"Representative, I'm… I'm trying to really understand where you're coming from in… in response to this Bill and this piece of legislation. You know, whatever's happening on the federal side is going to continue to happen. And whatever they can view or whoever can view federal issues, that's… they'll continue to be able to do that. But as it relates to this Bill, we're not changing any of the expungable offenses, what people can or can't see, or what was… what was expungable at one point that's not expungable now."

"I understand."

"I'm sorry."

"I'm just not understanding."

"Thank you."

"Sure."

"Okay. Thank you."

"In response to negligent hiring? I don't know. What do you think, Representative?"

"Okay."

"Okay."

"So…"

"You know, Representative, we could talk about this offline…"

"…and… and I, you know, I'd love to be brought up to speed."

"So I appreciate it."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Verschoore."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I apologize. I was off the floor in a meeting and if this question has been asked, 09900122.docx 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 tell me. But I know there's some concern about the… the fees and the Illinois State Police. And Representative Turner, you and I talked about this yesterday. Have you talked with the State Police, and are they okay with this now? Or…"

"Yes, Sir, Representative. I… I've been with in many discussions with the… with the State Police. And as I've stated before, we're going to continue to work on the fee portion of the Bill. You have my commitment on that, as well as the State Police, and… and we're willing to work on that going forward."

"Okay. So they are okay with it."

"We're going to address those concerns. Yes, Sir."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Turner to close."

"You know, thank you everyone for… for your consideration around this issue. I… I've really enjoyed all the discussions that I've been able to have with Members around this issue. And I… I really appreciate your support. Illinois State Police has my commitment going forward that we're going to work on the fiscal issues involved with it. And you know, this is… this is good for people. I mean, this is good for our state. I can give out stats about recidivism and the issues involved with… with how much it costs our state. You know, we want to give people a second chance and a second opportunity to become productive citizens. So this is the first step in that. Thank you very much for your consideration. I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who 09900122.docx 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the… please record yourselves, Members. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 69 voting 'yes', 42 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5785, Mr. Turner. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Turner."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 5785… Sorry, I'm just getting my notes together. All right. House Bill 5785 is identical to House Bill 3194 of the 99th General Assembly. It is an initiative of the Chicago Jobs Council and makes various changes to the Urban Weatherization Initiative. NOAA would led the increases in the amount of grant recipients that have a… eligible each year to up to 2 million from 500 thousand. It requires the Urban Weatherization Initiative to be coordinated with any federal weatherization programs and requires employees hired under the Initiative to be paid in accordance with the hourly wages associated with the federal prevailing wage rates for weatherization workers: Davis- Bacon. It increases the amount of a grant recipient is eligible for perf… per fiscal year to 2 million up from 500 thousand. It changes the date in which the board must submit its annual report to the General Assembly to May 31 from December 31. It requires at least two voting members of the Weatherization Initiative Board to have experience in residential weatherization or energy efficiency. Davis-Bacon… Federal prevailing wage is the only wage structure with 09900122.docx 88  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 categorizes addressing weatherization work. The Illinois Prevailing Wage Act does not have those categories. Maintaining the Davis-Bacon rates with weatherization programs have paid since 2009 will continue to maximize the cost for low-income clients served by the weatherization program. The proposed fix in the Bill would avert any high cost potentially impacting weatherization clients. The Bill proposes to fix the problems with the Urban Weatherization Initiative that were cited by the BGA and identified by providers. Governor… The Illinois Association for Community Action Agencies has been seeking guidance from the General Assembly on this for years and on how to address the prevailing wage requirements for a number of years. They are in favor of the guidance and it saves the cost of low-income consumers while paying fair wages to workers. I'd ask for your support."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields."

"No, Sir."

"No, Sir."

"Well, it ensures the weatherization workers are paid a fair and livable wage through wage determination with the an existing weatherization worker category only found at the 09900122.docx 89  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 federal level. That's the Davis-Bacon portion that I was talking about. It… it ensures that the weatherization workers clearly define for the purposes of wage determinations. And it ensures that if the program fulfills its mission of reducing energy costs for low-income households."

"Right."

"But this clear up the… the federal… the wage portion of it and…"

"…the… Go ahead."

"No."

"That's correct."

"Yes, Sir."

"No, Sir, it doesn't align with the AV."

"Pretty close." 09900122.docx 90  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"I've…"

"I… I've heard about… I've read…"

"So I believe that by going by the federal prevailing wage rate, we'd be able to employ more people, by putting in the… the safeguards of having experienced weatherization individuals work with the program. You'll have a more efficient program. You have more opportunities for job creation and to put more people to work."

"Well, much of the money hasn't been spent or used at all. We've been tight… tightening up this program for a while. And it's a… it's a great program. It's going to provide a lot of opportunities for economic development and jobs for people. And so we're hoping to really get it going, get the wheel rolling on it, and… and…" 09900122.docx 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"So… so we don't have a state prevailing wage and so that classified… they're classified as carpenters currently. The… the Department of Labor classifies them as carpenters, and they're being paid $40 an hour right now. So we would go to the federal prevailing wage rate, which has a weatherization…"

"…section classification, and it's more around the wa… wages of about 16… 11 to 15 dollars per hour."

"The Department of Labor…"

"The Department of Labor classifies these workers as carpenters, and they're being paid at… at about a $40 rate."

"State."

"The state…"

"…side."

"State." 09900122.docx 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"You know, I… I know there were many conversations going on before. I had this Bill last year when it came through the General Assembly, but you know, I haven't heard from them directly, personally myself, no."

"You know, I take your word on that, Rep, but I haven't had a conversation with them."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Turner to close."

"I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all 09900122.docx 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Flowers. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 67 voting 'yes', and 45 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Turner in the Chair."

"On the Order of Second Reading, we have House Bill 747, Representative Lang. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Leader Lang."

"Thank you. I would like to adopt the Amendment to House Bill 747. This deals with the qualifications for township assessors."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 747. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 582, Representative Lang. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Mr. Lang." 09900122.docx 94  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Amendment would become the Bill. And it would set up November of every year as Caregivers Month. I ask for your support."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 582. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Back to the Order of Third Reading on House Bill… we have House Bill 696, Representative Franks. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We had a very long debate on the Bill yesterday. And this is the exact same Bill except that this does not apply to Home Rule communities. So the one we had yesterday did apply to Home Rule, and that was some of the objections that I had seen some… from some of our friends. And what this Bill will do is freeze property taxes. I’d be happy to answer any questions. And if not, I'd ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Chair recognizes Representative Sandack."

"Chair recognizes Representative Wehrli."

"He indicates that he will."

"Yes."

"I'm sorry could you… I'm sorry."

"Well, right now, everybody can, because they automatically get it. I… I tried to include Chicago yesterday, but I think some… some people didn't like that."

"Correct."

"Exactly." 09900122.docx 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"It's a new day."

"Representative Franks to close."

"Thank you very much. I really appreciate the debate on this yesterday, and I didn't want to do it again. But folks, this is something that's really important to… to everyone in this state. It is the biggest issue facing our local taxpayers. Let's… let's help them out. Let's change the… let's change the dialogue. We have an opportunity here to make a very, very large change for all of our taxpayers. Please vote 'aye'."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 696 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 71 voting 'yes', 31 voting 'no', 5 voting 'present', House Bill 696, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 6125, Representative Greg Harris. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Harris." Harris, G.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a series of exemptions for… from the hundred foot limit that is in the Illinois Liquor Code, some of which are in my district and then there are several others in other Members' districts. This is the sort of omnibus Bill on this 09900122.docx 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 topic, which we consider on a regular basis. I know of no local objection from the communities of the elected officials. I would be happy to answer any questions."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 6125 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members, please record yourselves. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 60 voting 'yes', 46 voting 'no', 3 voting 'present', House Bill 6125, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4351, Representative Greg Harris. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Harris." Harris, G.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a piece of legislation that deals with the Community Care Program and the Human Service Program, which are the two main programs that the State of Illinois uses to keep senior citizens and persons with disabilities at home… in their own homes and living in the community and make sure they have an opportunity to stay in the community versus being put in nursing homes or other institutionalized settings. The first part of this is what has been referred to as the DON score Bill, which we have debated several times here on this floor in previous discussion. And which is now the public policy of the State of Illinois thanks to the Governor withdrawing his waiver request with federal CMS. The new addition to this Bill is a protection for the minimum service 09900122.docx 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 level for senior citizens. It would protect 40 thousand senior citizens at their current rate of services for home care workers, homemakers, emer… emergency home monitoring. And would say that changes to the program, for these 40 thousand seniors, should not be done by rule, but instead should be brought because it is such a major program for seniors in the State of Illinois and such a major budget impact for those of us, who are budget makers in the General Assembly, that all… all changes should be brought to the Legislature so that we may vote on them, rather than them going through the rulemaking process. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"On that, the Chair recognizes Leader Bellock."

"He indicates that we will."

"Chair recognizes Representative Demmer."

"The Sponsor will yield."

Speaker Riley: "Representative Riley in the Chair. Chair recognizes Representative David Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Question of the Sponsor?"

"Sponsor will yield." Harris, D.: "Representative, I'd like to… to focus in on the CCP and the CRP difference. What you're doing on CCP, the Community Care Program, as I understand it and read the… read the Bill, in essence, you are putting into statute that program so that no changes can be made. Is that correct?" Harris, G.: "We are putting into statute service cost maximums as effect on January 1, 2016. And then we are saying that we would like to see in statute form the complete program design of any changes so that, you know, all of us may evaluate it. We may hear from our senior service agencies, our area agencies from the aging, CCUs in all the, you know, dif… different regions of Illinois how they believe that would work and whether it would improve or possibly be to the detriment of lives of seniors." 09900122.docx 107  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 Harris, D.: "So in… but in essence then… or so in essence then, you are… you're tying the hands of the Executive to make changes or… or have any flexibility regarding the CCP?" Harris, G.: "I would say that we're maintaining the status quo, and we're exercising, you know, our right as Legislators to make decisions about one of the larger and most important programs the state has." Harris, D.: "And it is a large program; and it is a very important program. The Governor has suggested some modifications. Is that correct? And… and he's calling that the CRP program, the Community Reinvestment Program." Harris, G.: "We… and we've all seen outlines and different presentations of the, you know, details, I guess, that are forthcoming in the next couple days. And then we… we'll know more what the, you know, details impli… implications might be." Harris, D.: "But could… could the Executive department… could they implement CRP if this becomes law… if this Bill become law?" Harris, G.: "They would need to, you know, put it in Bill form. They would need to come back to the General Assembly, and then each of us would have to vote our districts and decide how this would best help or harm seniors." Harris, D.: "So they have to move a Bill through the Legislature in order to make changes, which… which conceivably would be… would be beneficial, which would be helpful. But they have to go through that whole legislative process if they want to make changes." Harris, G.: "Yes." 09900122.docx 108  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 Harris, D.: "Okay. Is there… is there any income limitation to the CCP, Community Care Program?" Harris, G.: "There is not a… not… not for the non-Medicaid eligible. And this is an area where I think we… we may find areas of agreement to be sure that we are serving those most in need and not providing services to those who would have other ways and means to get to those services. So I think as we… as I've discussed with the department and the Governor's Office, and I think there's some, you know, real area to, you know, come to agreement in that… in that area in particular." Harris, D.: "So… but… but in effect though, if maybe we have some agreement here that… that, since there is no income limitation on those folks who participate in CCP, that individuals who might be able to take advantage of some services and perhaps provide those on their own, we're now saying no. Can't do that because the state is absolutely locked in to… to doing that. Is that correct?" Harris, G.: "Are you saying, you know, we may… in the status quo that some people could be having a… a larger incomes, and you or I might choose? Yeah. The answer would be yes." Harris, D.: "And… and that's part of my concern is that the program I think without doubt is one of the most important that we have. However, there are reasonable modifications that… that I think the Executive ought to be able to take. And we are taking that authority away from the Executive. The executive is charged with running the Executive departments of the state, certainly in conjunction with the General Assembly, but through the… through the rulemaking process and through the normal process of directing his or her directors 09900122.docx 109  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 to do what needs to be done. This Bill… and to the Bill, Ladies and Gentlemen, this Bill ties the hands of the Executive. You know, I used to work for someone who would say… had a great… great saying. And he said the closest thing to eternity here on Earth is a government program once it got started. It never stops. And that's what we're doing here. We're trying to reign in a very expensive program. And CCP is a very expensive program. And the Governor is suggesting through his modifications to… in CRP is suggesting some changes that maybe will help us as a Legislature reduce the cost of the program. And no one, no one in the program will lose access to services that are currently available under CCP. So this is a… a straightjacket on the department and on the Executive. And I urge a 'no' vote."

"Representative Greg Harris to close." Harris, G.: "Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen. I don't really see this as a straightjacket on the administration. I think of it as putting our arms around our seniors, and people with disabilities, and those in supportive housing and letting them know that their Representatives are looking out for them and protecting their ability to stay in the community and get services in their homes. I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 4351 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, with 68 voting 'yea', 40 voting 'nay', 2 voting 'present', House Bill 4351, having received the Constitutional Majority, is 09900122.docx 110  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 hereby declared passed. House Bill 335, Representative Hoffman. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Mr. Clerk, put this Bill back to Second Reading for Floor Amendments."

"Representative Hoffman on Floor Amendment #1."

"Yes. Floor Amendment #1 is… is not really going to ultimately be the Bill. The Bill would be Floor Amendments #2 and #4."

"Do you wish to withdraw from Floor Amendment #1?"

"Yes."

"Floor Amendment… Floor Amendment #1 is then withdrawn. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Hoffman on Floor Amendment #2."

"Floor Amendment #2 is… has to deal with extending the sunset for what's called advanced deposit wagering. It would extend the sunset from December 31, 2018 to Febru… excuse me, from February 1, 2017, would extend the sunset to December 31, 2018."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Sandack."

"He indicates he will."

"All of the members of the industry are now in support."

"I know of, I guess, some people who may be against gaming…"

"…or horseracing. But…"

"…I know of no opponents in the industry."

"No. There are none. They're all supportive."

"Representative Hoffman moves that Floor Amendment #2 be adopted. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And Floor Amendment #2 is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Hoffman on Floor Amendment #4."

"Floor Amendment #4 simply removes the name of the association of the members serving on the Illinois Standard Breeders Fund Advisory Board. There was a name of an association that no longer exists. This does not change the composition of the advisory board, rather it replaces official names with general… generic descriptions."

"Representative Hoffman moves do adopt Floor Amendment #4 to House Bill 335. All those in favor state by saying 'aye'; all those opposed 'nay.' In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And Floor Amendment #4 to House Bill 335 is hereby adopted. Mr. Clerk." 09900122.docx 112  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Third Reading. House Bill 5711, Representative Sosnowski. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Sosnowski."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Jack Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Will this just apply to water and sewer?" 09900122.docx 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Yeah, but how is this Bill different for a statute of limitations, for instance, compared to those that are regulated by the ICC?"

"Then… so I think this makes perfect sense. I was just trying to make sure that we were sticking with the same time frames as those other regulated industries 'cause I think it's less confusing and probably fairer. So that's one thing. I… I've had some issues where there's been improper billing where people have used the wrong meters, and may… it's been a… a nightmare for… for the consumer to try to get that figured out. And I presume you may have the same type of issues here as well. So I think this idea to have a limit for the time will certainly protect the consumers. I think it's something long overdue. And I appreciate you bringing this forward."

"Representative Sosnowski to close."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 5711 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. 09900122.docx 114  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 On this question, with 111 voting 'yea', 0 voting 'nay', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 5711, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 6093, Representative Sosnowski. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Sosnowski."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Kay."

"Thank you for that information. There being no further debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 6093 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members, record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, with 111 voting 'yea', 0 voting 'nay', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 6093, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5912. House Bill 5912, Representative Moeller. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Moeller."

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 5912 makes a very slight change to the Illinois Vehicle Code. In that, it clarifies, once and for all, that cyclists have the same rights and responsibilities as vehicles under our statutes. We had a situation near my district last summer, a tragic situation wherein a cyclist was killed by a motorist who had disobeyed a stop sign. And when the… when the issue went to court, the judge ruled that the motorist was not in violation, because cyclists do not have the same right-of- way privileges as vehicles. We feel that this is a misinterpretation of the statute. And a way to address that is to call out the provision in the Illinois Vehicle Code that cyclists have the same right-of-way privileges as vehicles. There is… we worked with the State Police, the Department of Transportation on the language. And this final 09900122.docx 116  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 Bill is agreed to and there is no opposition. I would be happy to answer any questions."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Sandack."

"She indicates she will."

"That is correct. And this would not change that."

"Representative Moeller to close."

"Re… respectfully request an 'aye' vote. And thank you very much."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 5912 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote… vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, with 111 voting 'yea', 0 voting 'nay', 0 voting 'present'. House Bill 5912, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5602, Representative Unes. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Unes."

"There being no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 5602 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'' all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, with 91 voting 'yea', 18 voting 'nay', 1 voting 'present', House Bill 5602, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4362. House Bill 4362, Representative Unes. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Unes."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Will Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will." Davis, W.: "Representative, in your opening remarks, you indicated that ISBE just… it made it sound like they made an arbitrary choice. So this was a contract to an obligation. And correct if I'm wrong, but the previous contract ended the RFP for the new vendor was led appropriately. And based on the vetting process, SAT happened to be the winner of the contract. Is that correct?"

"Members, it's been a very robust debate up until now. There are many people that want to speak, so we would hope that we can get through all of you in a reasonable period of time. The Chair recognizes Representative Willis."

"Mr. Speaker, will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Mr. Unes, earlier in committee, one of the big… main points that I brought up, and many of them were brought up by my colleague, so I won't rehash that. There are currently, am I correct, only two college board exams that can be done?"

"Okay. So we have pretty much a monopoly between the two of them; it's either ACT or SAT. So with that in mind, how can we expect to be given a… a group bid price that will cut down on the cost, if they're guaranteed that they're going to get a contract?"

"Right."

"But if we're guaran… if I'm guaranteed the contract… one of the things that SAT did was to… to earn the points was they certainly kept up to all the academic standards, but then they stated since they were going to be the sole provider for the state, they gave us a discount on their normal price."

"Correct?"

"I… I'm not actually not worried about which is better, the ACT or the SAT, I think both are… are equitable in that. I'm more concerned on the bidding process on how do we make sure, especially right now when we're under such fiscal constraints, how do we makes sure that we're looking… we're looking at every nickel and dime that we can save. And we have absolutely no incentive, under your plan, to save money 09900122.docx 129  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 because they're guaranteed a contract no matter what they come into…"

"…because there's nobody else out there to go against them, correct?"

"Because…"

"…they won the contract…"

"…before."

"And you feel because of this established, working relationship, they're going to come and underbid? If this is… they're in it for money just like anybody else is. I mean, the SAT is not going to do it for free nor should the ACT's providers do it for free. So, if they're the only two bidders, and they're both guaranteed, I cannot see how we're going to save any money. I… I sympathize with your… your thought and what you’re saying… To the Bill. I understand that it's very difficult to have change. But when we went through the correct RFP process and SAT came through remarkably higher rated than the ACT on this RFP, that doesn't state that one test is better than the other. But I do believe that we have to look at the financial impact that this is going to do. There is a lot of unknowns on what this is going to cost the state. Students still always have the option of taking both tests, 09900122.docx 130  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 if they're willing to pay for one of them out on their own. And I think that's what we need to look at. If we are not really… there's no incentive to save money. There is no incentive to have a competitive bid, if they're both guaranteed to get it. I would urge a 'no' on this because, at this point, I really do not think this is our financial best interest. Thank you very much."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Cloonen."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Yes. I have a couple quick questions. Representative Unes, right now, SAT has a signed contract with the State of Illinois. Is that correct?"

"It's pending?"

"I'm sorry. Okay. So… Okay, so the contract is still… still pending. My concern is that if there's a pending contract and that this would set a precedent that someone who has a pending contract, it could just be changed. Is that correct?"

"Yeah. My concern isn’t so much SAT, ACT. My concern is that we have a pending, signed contract with a contractor. And I know that there are many contractors in this room. My concern is that this is a bad business Bill. If we set a precedent where we do not honor our contracts or our pending contract, then what is that saying to anyone who wants to business in the State of Illinois? We're struggling right now to bring business to Illinois. I want to show contractors or vendors or anyone who wants to come to the State of Illinois that Illinois is a good place. That when we sign a contract or we have a pending contract we honor our word. And I believe that in Illinois we should still have a signature on a contract as the word. And that's my concern. Thank you."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Crespo."

"Thank you, Speaker. To the Bill. First, I want to congratulate the Representative 'cause I know he's been work… working very, very hard on this. And he came before my… my Education Committee, and we did help him pass the Bill. But I just want to share with the… the House some of the comments that I received from the State Board of Education. One, I think this has been stated earlier, that in the State of Illinois we've only supported one college entrance exam for decades. So, fundamentally, this changes that. And that what 09900122.docx 132  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 Representative Unes is trying to do is to instead of just supporting one, we'll support two. ISBE's also concerned that if two… the only two companies that provide these tests are guaranteed a contract, there… there's really no incentive for them to be competitive with their price. Plus, we lose the economy of scales as well. The SAT was selected through an RFP process. And a discourse significantly higher than the ACT. According to ISBE, this contract will result in $1.3 million savings over three years. It also, according to ISBE, SAT gives students free, personalized practice online, which the ACT does not. But most importantly, it gives free college application fee waivers for low-income students, which the ACT does not. In terms of this year whether students take the ACT or the SAT, it really doesn't matter, because the state is not going to pay for that. Many school districts have already decided that they're going to pick up the tab, if they can, or the parents or the students are having to pay for either one of them. So if some students have been preparing for the ACT, they can take the ACT this year. The state really doesn't have much to say because they're not paying for it. So, again, I just want to make sure that I share with you what ISBE is saying. Two more point: in terms of the contract, according to ISBE, SAT was awarded the contract. They can't sign the contract yet 'cause there's no money there, but that… that's their intention. So, again, I just want to make sure we're sure of that. I'm… I'm unfortunately vote 'no'. But I want to congratulate the Representative, 'cause I know he's been working very hard on this Bill. Thank you." 09900122.docx 133  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"The Chair recognizes Representative Ives."

"Representative Unes to close."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 4362 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, with 73 voting 'yea', 36 voting 'nay', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 4362, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Leader Lang in the Chair."

"Mr. Ford is recognized."

"Thank you, Speaker. A point of personal privilege, please."

"Please proceed." 09900122.docx 135  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Members of the House, I would like to bring to the attention. We all know that today is Illinois Environmental Council Lobby Day 2016, but Representative Lilly and myself, we both have some very special guests from Oak Park here. I would ask you to give them a great, big round of applause and Springfield welcome. It's the Oak Park Climate Change Group, and they're located right at the top there. Thank you for coming down, Davenport and Burdner and all the others."

Speaker Lang: "House Bill 5580, Representative Wallace. Representative Wallace. Out of the record. House Bill 5530, Representative Williams. Representative Williams. Out of the record. House Bill 6020, Mr. Yingling. Please read the Bill. You need to move this Bill back to the Sec… Order of Second. Mr. Clerk, please do so and read the Bill."

"Mr. Yingling."

"Floor Amendment #1 narrows the focus of the original Bill and eliminates the OMA part of the original language."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1052, Mr. Yingling. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Yingling."

"Thank you. 1052 is a local initiative in my district that I've worked on for the past couple years with the Transportation Committee. What it would do is it would provide for the transfer of a road system to a public domain. I think that this is a really good example of what we can accomplish by working through the committee process. We had an enormous amount of great input. I want to thank Representative Fortner for a lot of his great suggestions on how to make the Bill better. I know Representative Moffitt also had a lot of great ideas. So I would kindly ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. There are 112 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, Rules Report."

Speaker Lang: "House Bill 6167, Representative Sente. Representative Sente. Out of the record. House Bill 6013, Representative Cassidy. Out of the record. House Bill 5472, Representative Gordon-Booth, on the Order of Second Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 6130, Representative Hurley. Out of the record. House Bill 4528, Representative McAsey. Out of the record. House Bill 5703, Mr. Phelps. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5580, Representative Wallace. Out of the record. House Bill 5530, Representative Williams. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Williams."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill simply addresses the contracting with public entities including schools and others and provides that you cannot prohibit the donation of food… leftover food. And the reason this is necessary is because some schools and other entities were believed that they were precluded from making such donations due to some contractual… contractual requirements, when in fact they are not. This just clarifies the law and says they are able to make donations."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this 09900122.docx 138  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 887, Representative Williams. Out of the record. House Bill 5729, Representative Kelly Burke. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Burke." Burke, K.: "Floor Amendment 2 is… corrects a… a misspelling. Very technical Amendment. I move for its adoption."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5566, Mr. Sims. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Sims."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Floor Amendment #1 simply updates the P-2 Council to allow for the council to discuss issues of college affordability for students in Illinois. I'd ask for its favorable adoption and favorable passage." 09900122.docx 139  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5572, Mr. Sims. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Sims."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Floor Amendment #3 adds the director of the Department of Juvenile Justice to the task force. This was a request made by the administration. And we wanted to… to accommodate that request. And I know of… and I'd like for its favorable adoption."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5628, Representative Williams. Out of the record. House Bill 4323, Mr. Zalewski. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Mr. Zalewski." 09900122.docx 140  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Mr. Speaker, I wish to adopt Floor Amendment #2. The Amendment is technical in nature. It changes some threshold amounts with respect to the smaller operators. And then I'd like to hold the Bill for a future Amendment, if that's possible, Mr. Speaker."

"We can certainly hold the Bill on Second after your Amendment is adopted. Those in favor of the Amendment 'yes'; opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 57… excuse me, Mr. Clerk. I just said we hold it on Second, and I misspoke. So hold that Bill on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 5729, Representative Kelly Burke. Kelly Burke. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Burke." Burke, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 5729 is an effort of folks who are involved with the P20 council. And it's a career and workforce readiness Bill. And it does… or excuse me, post… Postsecondary and Workforce Readiness Bill. It does two things. It looks to address the reduction in the number of students who are…"

"Representative, sorry to interrupt. I think you have another Amendment, correct?" Burke, K.: "I thought we just did. I thought we just adopted the second Amendment." 09900122.docx 141  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"All right. We'll have to take this out of the record, and we'll get back to you." Burke, K.: "Oh, sure."

"Thank you. House Bill 6098, Mr. Demmer. Please read the Bill. Out of the record. House Bill 6167, Representative Sente. Representative Sente. Out of the record. House Bill 4257, on the Order of Second Reading, Representative Kifowit. Representative Kifowit. Representative Kifowit. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4999, Mr. Guzzardi. On the Order of Second reading, please read the Bill."

"Mr. Guzzardi."

"Thank you, Mr… thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment #2 is a small page and line Amendment that came to us from the Illinois Chamber of Commerce. It removes their opposition."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 6298, Representative Tabares. Please read the Bill."

"So, Mr. Clerk, let me make sure I understand the status of this Bill. There's a Motion to table an Amendment, but the Amendment's not on the Bill? So the Motion is moot. The Sponsor wishes to move the Bill to Third Reading? Out of the record. House Bill 746, Mr. Verschoore. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Verschoore."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. This is a local initiative by the Rock Island County Board. And what it does is it amends the Downstate Forest Preserve Act that provides for a nonpartisan elected board of commissioners for the Rock Island County Niabi Zoo. Currently, there are 25 members on the Rock Island County bird… Board that serve as board commissioners. This would reduce that number down to 7 commissioners. And they would be elected, rather than being the… just the county board with a chairman. And they would have staggered terms. The election would not take place until the 2018 even year election. And the reason for that is so they could be apportioned districts, and we need time for the… for the county clerk to draw up those districts. It's a nonpaying position. They would be, 09900122.docx 143  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 like I said, non… nonpartisan. They could hold no other elected position. And I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields."

"This does not create another unit of government. It's already in place. But rather than the county board being the commissioners, this would be elected. And it's a non… nonpaying position."

"Right."

"Right."

"Right."

"See, they're not creating anything. It's already a freestanding board in itself." 09900122.docx 144  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"It already does."

"The tax would be… there's no change in the taxing authority. It'd still be taxed like it is now. The only thing is… is rather than have the county board, it's the separating… in our… in our county right now, they're doing some major changes. They've… they've voted to, after the next census, they voted to do away with insurance. They've… to… they've done away with participating in the MIRF pensions and everything. This is just another step they wanted to do to try to clean up government… or county government."

"Mr. Smiddy."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"To the Bill. I actually agree with Mr. Sandack that this is going create another layer of government here in Rock Island County. And currently, this forest preserve oversees Illiniwek, Loud Thunder, Dorrance, Martin, Indian Bluff, and Niabi Zoo. Four of the six of those areas are within my local District 71 not in 72. And at this time, I'm unable to support this legislation. And I would also ask for a 'no' vote."

"Mr. Franks. Yes, the Sponsor yields."

"Thank you. I wrote the law that Mr. Sandack talked about. But I think… but I want to… I got to ask some questions here because I'm… I want to make sure I understand. Right now, Pat the… there is a forest preserve district right now, correct?"

"Right."

"And they already have their separate line item that they're levying taxes for?"

"Correct."

"How long have they been around?"

"Seventy-five years." 09900122.docx 146  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Been around 75 years. So what you’re trying to do is to have this taxing body, that's currently run by the county board, to be run by an independent group of 7 individuals that would be directly elected?"

"Correct."

"Okay. And that's… and that's because the county wanted to change how the structure of their government was."

"Right."

"Do they believe there'd be more accountability if they did that directly?"

"More accountability, more transparency."

"Would there be any additional cost to taxpayers?"

"No."

"Okay. And I saw in the analysis that AFSCME was opposed. Did your House Amendment #2, which has been adopted, does that take away their…"

"No. We were… we were going to have another Amendment to that, but through some negotiations with AFSCME, we're going to take care… if this passes out of the House, we're going to address that situation in… in the Senate. But when I had a meeting with the… the zoo director… or not the zoo director, the person that's over the zoo and the… and the chairman of the zoo commission now, yhey… that question was talked about. Representative Smiddy missed that meeting along with two others. And that situation there's no… no change in the collective bargaining. And there will be doing away with that."

"So describe this forest preserve district for me. You… you mentioned a zoo." 09900122.docx 147  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Yes."

"They… they… they have a zoo?"

"We have a zoo, Niabi Zoo, and it covers… and it's available to everyone in Rock Island County. And with this, we're just, like I said, we're going to divide it into 7 apportioned districts so there's equal representation as far as these commissioners, who are going to be in charge of looking out for the… for the zoo."

"Are there any other assets that the forest preserve district currently has besides the zoo or is that the only asset?"

"Well, there's a, as the former Representative mentioned, there's three or four other forest preserves, and then the zoo, and then… I think that's it."

"Okay. I think that what Mr. Sandack's question he has on, I think it has some validity. I'm not sure. I'd like to get a parliamentary opinion on this. I don't know if you'd be willing to take it out of the record."

"Yeah. If we… if you want to get a… if you and Mr… Mr. Sandack and you and I get together, and we'll get a… we'll get an answer on that. And then we'll bring it back."

"I appreciate that because I… I understand what you're trying to do. And I'm always for direct representation, especially with people that are dealing with our tax dollars. And let's… let's the three of us put our heads together and see if we can work it out."

"Okay."

"All right. Thank you."

"Thank you." 09900122.docx 148  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"The Bill will be removed from the record, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 3408, Representative Kifowit. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Kifowit."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. This Bill is a continuation of bringing accountability to public bodies, in which it removes the perks of compensations that's going to be counted toward pensionable items. It removes club memberships. It also removes any sort of like allowance in there, as well. So this is another initiative that is bringing more accountability to our systems."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. There are 112 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 854, Representative Reaves- Harris. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Reaves-Harris."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 854 requires the Department of Health Care… Heath and Family Services to issue an annual Freestanding Emergency Centers license to a facility located in Cook County with consideration given to underserved communities, especially those that have recently lost access to emergency care. Only one such license will be 09900122.docx 149  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 issued. Sacred Heart Hospital closed approximately three years ago to… due to fraud and mismanagement. Currently, there is not dis… no hospital in the 10th District. HB854 amends the current statute by allowing an FEC, or a Freestanding Emergency Center, in a municipality with a population of one million or more. Fa… facility must meet the following. Facility must have filed a letter of intent to establish an FEC by January 21, 2017, has received a Certificate of Need from the Health Facilities and Services Review… Review Board, complies with all other current FEC requirements under the law. The FEC must have a transfer agreement with at least one acute care hospital within in 30 minutes to travel from the FEC. The medical director of the FEC must have full admitting privileges at the hospital under the transfer agreement, which must assume all follow-up care responsible for any transfer patient. The FEC must participate with an F… a HSF approved local EMS system. This language has already passed both the House and the Senate last year under SB 788; however, was place on a Motion to reconsider. I will answer any questions and ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields."

"I have. We have gage… engaged with all of the opponents to this opposition for over a year. I recently reached out to one of the surrounding safety net hospital and asked for a meeting, so that we could sit down and have a conversation to see if we can work out some type of agreement. Because the legislation, or the proposed legislation, requires that the FEC partner with a hospital within a 30- mile radius. And so we engaged with all of the hospitals within a 5-mile radius of this proposed location to try to engage to see if there was something that can be done. Because although there is fought… 9 of 10 hospitals approximately within the 9-mile radius. Again, I want to emphasize. This does not allow them to automatically get the Certificate of Need. They will…"

"Correct. And I just want to make it clear. They are not the same Sacred Heart owners."

"Yes."

"That's…

"…okay." 09900122.docx 151  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Correct. They are a group of physicians that do run medicals schools. They purchased this Site, once the Sacred Heart Hospital closed because of mismanagement and Medicaid fraud. They purchased the site…"

"They currently do not have one, but that is also part of the requirement of the legislation. If…"

"Yes. Before… well, be… befor… in order for them to be issued a license to operate, they would have to have that partnership agreement in place. If they do not get that partnership agreement, they will not get a license to operate."

"There are…

"…currently…"

"…there are currently 10 hospitals within a 5- mile radius; however, there are still 20… approximately 25 thousand people who currently walk away from those hospitals 09900122.docx 152  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 not receiving any emergency care on an annual basis. So, again…"

"…this facil…"

"Well, but we don't know that. Unfortunately, there's… well, we don't know that they're getting emergency care elsewhere. The fact remains what we do know is that there are 25 thousand people currently walking away from these 10 hospitals not receiving any emergency care."

"Representative McDermed."

"Representative Bellock."

"Sponsor yields." 09900122.docx 154  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Sponsor yields."

"No. But there is a requirement that in order for them to get their license to operate, they would have a… have to have a partnership agreement with a hospital that is located within 30 minutes of travel from the FEC. The medical director of the FEC must have full admitting privileges at the hospital under the transfer… under the transfer agreement, which must als… assume all follow-up care responsible for the transferred patient. So, though… although they don't have to be wholly owned by a hospital, they are required to have that agreement in place, so that they would, in essence, work as though they are working under the… under the hospital that they make that agreement with."

"Correct."

"Correct. Correct."

"I… I'm sorry. I don't understand your question, Representative. When you say are they working with whom?"

"They are. Well, and actually… and I just want to be clear because they… the Chicago Metropolitan Hospital was the original name that they has assumed, because originally they intended to open up a full hospital. However, because Illinois is considered overbedded, they were advised by the Illinois Department of Public Health that they probably would not qualify for a license. So they will not be operating under the name of Chicago Metropolitan Hospital. This is going to be… the proposed idea is a Freestanding Emergency Center. And as far as them having that agreement in place, again, this legislation would only allow them to go in front of the Health Facilities Licensing Board to show that there is a need in the community. Representative, the previous Representative shows that there, you know, the marketplace dictated that the old hospital went under. Well, I would beg to differ. It dictated that the nature of the health care that was being provided at that facility went under. They have a totally new concept on providing health care to my community would that… would cut the wait times down. Not only form the 10 surrounding hospitals, but in Chicago… Chicagoland era… Chicagoland area overall. Right now, in Chicago the average wait time in ER range from 6 to 10 hours, 6 to 10 hours you have to have wait when you go to an ER in the City of Chicago. In addition, 600 additional… 600 thousand additional 09900122.docx 156  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 individuals were afforded insurance under the ACA. Now, we're not encouraging… they are not going to be encouraging people to visit this facility as an ER. They intend to have an entire wraparound service with primary care service. So if someone does visit the facility that is not in need of emergency care, they will direct them to that facility to discourage them from using this facility as an emergency room basis. But the fact to say that we don't need this, without giving them an opportunity to go in front of the very board that was created to make that determination, I think is doing a… a disservice to my community."

"Yes, they are."

"Because their members are opposed, they are… In my opinion, I mean, you really would have to ask them why they're opposed. But from my position, I believe they're opposed because they just don't want the competition. And the reality is, they're… everyone is proposing this doomsday scenario. And the reality is, this is, this is a very new way of providing quality health care to the community and that is what they're too. And I would imagine that everything that's new and innovative sometimes get pushed back, but again, that is what the Health Care Facilities License Board was created for. If there is no need in the community, they won't get the license. If there's a need in the community, then doesn't my community have a right to have those needs fulfilled, by the person who's willing to come to one of poorest communities on 09900122.docx 157  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 the west side of Chicago, add quality health care as well as resources, much needed resources, to this community."

"And jobs, by the way."

"They're not going to have any beds."

"They're not opening up a full hospital. Again, when they originally went in front of the Illinois Department of Hos… of Healthcare and Human Services, they were told that they probably would not qualify for… to build… They did want to open a full hospital. That site did have 122 beds. But I agree, Illinois is currently overbedded. We understand that. So they moved from that initiative and thought… did what they believed based on a needs assessment, something that they could compromise with to come into the community to still provide quality health care but not add to the overbedding in the ill… in the Chicagoland area. And they would have never gotten the license in the first…"

"…place."

"Yes, they are opposed. But again…"

"I… I hate to keep coming back to this point because I believe they're opposed because there are a safety net hospitals and they are operated on margin."

"But they will not be disfil… this group of investors will not be allowed to get a Certificate of Need to operate, unless there is a need currently not being filled in the community. So these safety net hospitals really… if… they're really I believe won't be… first of all, these hospitals, the 10 hospitals that are within this five mile radius, Sacred Heart was at that location for almost approximately a hundred years. So they operated simultaneously for almost a hundred years. Now, the reality is… is that if there is no need in the community, they won't be harmed. If there… 'cause they won't get the license. But if there is a need, they won't be taking anything away from those safety net hospitals. They will be just filling the void of the need that was left when that Sacred Heart Hospital closed. Because again, we have on record there are 25 thousand people who walk away annually from receiving emergency services from those 10 hospitals. The average wait time in the City of Chicago in an ER ranges from 7 to 10 hours, and 09900122.docx 159  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 within those te… 10 hospitals the average wait time is about an hour."

"But they're…"

"…not going to be opening… They're not going to be running an emergency room. They're going to be running a Freestanding Emergency Center, which is kind of in-between an emergency room as well as an urgent care center. So, they…"

"…are going to… and again…"

"And, again, I… I understand. And you're right. I am passionate about this because this is my community. But…"

"…I just keep going back to the fact that they will have to go in front of the Health Facilities Planning and Review Board. And based on a needs assessment, make a determination as to whether or not there's a need in community that can be filled. And if they cannot fill that need, or if there is no need, they will not be given a license to operate. Whatever happened to… from no… in all due respect, from your 09900122.docx 160  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 side of the aisle, we are supposed to encourage businesses to come to the city to conduct business. That's all they're asking to do is to come into my community, show that that there is a need in the community that they can fill, that's not currently being filled. And if they cannot show that need, they won't be given a license."

"Thank you."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, we still have eight people wishing to speak on this Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Yingling."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"I… I apologize, Representative. I… I missed part of this debate. But I was curious, is this Bill going to cause other hospitals in the area to close or negatively affect the revenues?"

"No. And, in fact, not in my opinion. I think there's a lot of fear mongering that's going on. First, the Sacred Heart Hospital and the surrounding hospitals have operated simultaneously for almost a hundred years. I mean, they had coexisted. Secondly, 600 thousand new people are going to be coming into the health care roll. Unfortunately, these people are having a difficult time finding providers. And they are coming to ER system… ER rooms, which this… in this facility will not encourage because they will have a 09900122.docx 161  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 clinic right next door where they will direct individuals who are coming in on a nonemergency basis to discourage that from happening. And third, again, 25 thousand people are walking away from these 10 hospitals within that 5-mile radius on a yearly basis. The wait time in the City of Chicago ranges from… There's some places I've heard, and I don't know this is true, I haven't seen it. A friend of mine told me they were are driving on a hos… on the expressway, and there were signs warning people about how long it… the… the ER wait times are… are certain here… hospitals in the Chicagoland area. So they believe there's a need. And if there's no need, they won’t get the license."

"Okay. So what happens if the owners don't get a CON then?"

"They don't get the license."

"Okay. And I know you talked a little bit about This earlier, but the Illinois Hospital Association is adamantly opposed. I… I just wanted to get a better understanding from you as to where their opposition lies."

"From my understanding, and to be honest, I really don't know. We have tried to engage with the Illinois Hospital Association and their members to try to work out some type of agreement that everybody would be satisfied, because I don't agree with the doomsday scenario that they're proposing. But as some… as the Representative Bellock pointed out, or I'm sorry, one of the previous Representatives, there are safety net hospitals within the 5-mile radius; approximately 10. And they are concerned that this opening up this facility will cause irreparable harm to these facilities, and I just 09900122.docx 162  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 disagree. Because they have existed… coexisted for over a hundred years and again, they're changing the model in which they're going to be providing health care. So you can't use the same analogy with the Sacred Heart site, because they're going to be providing health care with a totally different model. And you know, I just don't think that that doomsday scenario will happen because they will have to present to the board an assessment of need. And if there's no need, they won't get the license. If there's a need, shouldn't they have an opportunity to fulfill that need?"

"So, Representative, you would say that this is… this facility is… is much needed in your district. Would that be a correct statement?"

"From my perspective, absolutely. But again, they still have to go in front of the… they… they don't have to prove it to me. They have to prove it to the Health Care Facility Planning and Review Board. From my perspective, yes, it's very much needed."

"All right. To the Bill. I think that it's important on… that all of us, when we're down here, we obviously were elected to do what's right on behalf of the entire state, but more importantly, we were elected to advocate for the needs of our district and to come down here and fight for facilities and resources that our districts need. And Representative, I know that's exactly what you're doing. I… I know you've been working on this a long time. And I'm, you know, I congratulate you on this. And I… I'm going to vote for this. And one of reasons I'm going to vote for it is because you are the duly elected Representative from your district, and you have 09900122.docx 163  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 identified this as being a need for your district. So I'm going to support you on that. And I would encourage everyone else to do the same thing."

"We still have seven speakers. I would suggest Members exercise discretion. Mr. Sullivan is recognized."

"Sponsor yields."

"Sure."

"That…"

"I think… you may be reading the wrong Section. If you can just refer to (a-16) under the… obviously, you're an attorney, so you know the underlined section. And one the specific requirements is that it complies with all of the 09900122.docx 164  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 requirements and that it has to be… shall not be required to be wholly owned by a hospital; all patients needing… but if you go further down, it does say that you do have to have an affiliate agreement with the hospital in order for there to be allowed to operate."

"No."

"No."

"Well…"

"No."

"I… I think your understanding is incorrect. From my understanding, before they are bein… will be allowed to operate, they are going to have to have in place an agreement with an acute care hospital. Where the doctor that… the director that runs this FEC has full admitting privileges at that hospital. And in fact, the doctor is required to follow up with any patient that's transferred to the… this acute care hospital. And has to refer… and… and has to report that information on an annual basis. That's basically… I mean, you're right that we're changing the requirement that it does not have to be wholly owned by a hospital, but it does require 09900122.docx 165  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 that an agreement has to be in place with an acute care hospital…"

"…within a 30 minute…"

"…transportation."

"Correct. Correct."

"Okay."

"Okay. And, again, the only thing that I can reforward… refer back to is the fact that if that is truly, in fact, a concern, we are more than willing to do any type of an agreement… I mean, I'm, you know…"

"…they still are going to have to go in front of the Health Facilities Planning and Review Board and make a determination as to whether or not the facility that they're proposing is truly unsafe and detrimental to the community. If they make that that's part of the re… requirement of the Planning and Review Board." 09900122.docx 166  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"…is to make an assessment…"

"…as what they intend to do at this facility fits within the quality of care that they are…"

"…regulating."

"And if it doesn't, they won't get the license."

"I did not. I think one of the Representatives from your side. But they have never contacted me, so I'm not sure what their opposition is."

"Mr. Demmer."

"Your request is acknowledged. Mr. Arroyo. Mr. Arroyo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, what… what kind of services is this standalone clinic going to provide?"

"I'm sorry?"

"What kind of services would this clinic provide?"

"They will address things such as difficulty breathing, head, neck, or back injuries, loss of limb, severe broken bones, dislocated joints, chest pains and pressure, convulsions and seizures, severe pains, especially abdomen plains… pains, allergic reactions, unconsciousness, fevers, severe cuts and/or bleeding, poison situations, severe burns, frequent vomiting, diarrhea, sudden loss of vision, medical con… I think they… I'm sorry I think they spelled that wrong, but I think they meant medi… mental… oh, I'm sorry, mental confusion." 09900122.docx 168  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Well, Representative, stan… standalone clinics normally don't give that many services. They only pick one or two of the por… portions of medical things that you said that they provide. This is, you know, the Safety Net Hospital is big against this. And I have a couple of safety net hospitals in my district. And… and they're… they're saying that this is almo… this is close to being a… a hospital. And then some of the documents that I have on this… on this Bill, it says that they're the Chicago Metropolitan Hospital. What is the name of the clinic?"

"It is going to be a metroplex Freestanding Emergency Center. What the… the doc… unfortunately, when the phy… physicians, and… and I'll get back to that point, but I want to just address one important issue that a Representative indicated on the other side of aisle. He indicated that this will be… the cost of care will increase with this type of facility. And in fact, that is not true. First of all, a big portion of my district is Medicaid and Medicare recipients. They will still be reimbursed at the same rate as they are in every other facility within the State of Illinois. And we all know that the State of Illinois has one of the lowest reimbursement rates for Medicaid. In addition to that, they will not be able to charge the facility fees. In fac… because they're not wholly owned by a hospital, those fees range between 8 and 1200 dollars per patient. And Medicaid and Medicare prohibit them from billing those patients those fees because they're not wholly owned by a hospital. So the reality is, is that they will be able to provide quality health care at a much lower cost than hospital-owned ERs. And as far as 09900122.docx 169  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 their name is concerned, again, when they originally went to seek a license to open up the facility at this site, they intended to open up a hospital. In… in full disclosure with the surrounding 10 hospitals, one of the members asked them to give them their information. They gave that information that called… referred to them as a hospital, because that's what they intended to open. Since then, this has been a fluid initiative because they know now that they won't be open… able to open up a hospital because Illinois is overbedded. But they have no intentions, in fact, the… the statute specifically prohibits them from referring to themselves as a hospital because they are not one."

"Representative, another question. Will they be able to take people without insurance?"

"Absolutely. They… in fact, they… as it says, they are required as every other FEC to follow the regulations that… that regulate FECs. And if there are concerns about the way FECs operate in terms of their unsafetiness, then we should be closing up all FECs. Currently, there are six FECs that operate in the State of Illinois, including the one that we just authorized in the… in this Assembly last year in Representative Mautino's district. So if there's truly a concern about the quality of care that an FEC is allowed to provide, then we should be closing all of them. Whether or not there's a need in the community is a different issue. They are willing to, even though we all have, at least I've been told, that there are some concerns about that Certificate of Need process. That is a process in place. They are fully 09900122.docx 170  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 willing to participate in that process. And again, if there is no need, they won't get a license."

"Thank you, Representative. Speaking to the Bill. Ladies and Gentleman, this Bill… this… Safety Net Hospitals is against this Bill. The Hospital Association's against this Bill. I normally don't vote against my colleagues. I normally go along with my colleagues. But this is going to hurt the safety net hospitals and I have several in my district, in my community. And they're telling me that there's a lot of miscommunication in this Bill. And there's a lot of questions that are not completely answered yet. I think that this… Hospital Association should have sat down with Representative Harris on this Bill and talked more about it. The Safety Net Hospital should have talked about it. So they're telling me that this Bill is not good. This is slippery slope kind of Bill. If they are allowed to open this Bill next to the Norwegian Hospital, they're going to be able to open this clinic, clinics similar to this 'cause this is short of a hospital is what this is. All they need is an emergency room, so it could be called a hospital. So this could open up in any other district in this General Assembly. So I urge an 'aye' vote… I mean a 'no' vote. I'm sorry. Thank you."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I will follow your instructions and certainly be discreet."

"At least there's…" Harris, D.: "And quick."

"…one of you." Harris, D.: "And quick." 09900122.docx 171  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Thank you, Sir." Harris, D.: "Question of the Sponsor, please?"

"Sponsor yields." Harris, D.: "Representative, I know you are very passionate about this. But help me understand a little bit, this animal known as a Freestanding Emergency Center. Kind of what is it? What… why is it different? Why is it… what makes it unique?"

"Sure. As I read the list of the services that will… that it will be able to provide; however, it will not be a full facilitating ER. They are required to have an emergency room board-certified doctor on this location 24 hours a day. So, for instance, they also are required to be part of the Emergency Medical System." Harris, D.: "Right. Right."

"So if someone has like a trauma one, two, three level injury, and they would generally be repor… transported to an acute care facility that has a ER, a trauma one to a level facility. Because they are not operating as an ER and not as a trauma center, but they are part of the EMS system, they will direct that person away from that center and send them to the closest acute care trauma level injury depending on what it is." Harris, D.: "Okay."

"So basically…" Harris, D.: "And that… and… and let me follow up on that in just a second. But how many of these Freestanding Emergency Centers do we have in Illinois?" 09900122.docx 172  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Six… five currently in operation. One is currently being built in Representative Mautino… former Representative Mautino's district." Harris, D.: "And…"

"And again, we just… we just authorized that legislation last year." Harris, D.: "And under… and looking at the… the law authorized… or the statute authorizing Freestanding Emergency Centers, it's my… it seems as though they are in municipalities, fairly small municipalities. Is that correct?"

"Correct." Harris, D.: "So…"

"These were… I'm sorry. Go ahead." Harris, D.: "So this… this would be the only one in the City of Chicago?"

"Correct. There…" Harris, D.: "And… and…"

"I'm sorry." Harris, D.: "…there's a provision in your Bill that says if the Bill were to become law, it could only be the… it could only be the one in the City of Chicago. There… no other one could exist in the City of Chicago. Is that correct?"

"That's correct. This affects…" Harris, D.: "And… why… why is…"

"…no one…" Harris, D.: "…why is that?"

"…but my district." Harris, D.: "If it's such a good idea, why… why not good for other neighborhoods as well?" 09900122.docx 173  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Because unfortunately, you see the opposition that I'm getting from this… this… about this Bill and the reality is, in all due respect, Representative, I'm representing my district." Harris, D.: "Okay."

"If somebody believes that this is beneficial to their district, then they can sponsor or propose the legislation, bring it in front of this Body, and try to get the requisite number of votes to get it out." Harris, D.: "Okay."

"But I'm just representing my district." Harris, D.: "And to answer one of the previous questions that was asked, under the cur… under the law as it currently is… is stated, a Freestanding Emergency Center… one of the qualifications to be a Freestanding Emergency Center is that it be wholly… wholly owned or controlled by an Associate or Resource Hospital. That is not the case with yours."

"Correct." Harris, D.: "Yours is not wholly owned. And, specifically, that's include… excluded. So that is… that is a change. Couple of…"

"It is." Harris, D.: "…just a couple of quick and last questions. Didn't we pass this Bill last year?"

"We did with even less restrictions. Because I believe under Senator Mautino's… Representative Mautino's Bill, he didn't even have to go in front of the Health Facilities Planning and Review Board to show that there was a need before he was issued a Certificate of Need. He was 09900122.docx 174  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 just allowed to… he would… his Bill authorized him a license just on the passage in this House and in the Senate." Harris, D.: "Okay. And then it has to be… it has to be part of… a Freestanding Emergency Center, has to the part of the EMS system, correct?"

"Correct." Harris, D.: "So they have to have communication with EMS system. They have to have… they have to have a tie-in with that Resource Hospital."

"Correct." Harris, D.: "Do you know what… which… which is the Resource Hospital if they would have a tie-in with?"

"Again, and I'm just going to be frank and honest here, 'cause we reached out to everyone. But the hos… Illinois Hospital Association and their members are a very tight niche. I don't think any of one… them wanted to offend another member, because that is what they do; they support one another." Harris, D.: "Right."

"However, they hon… they believe that if they do… this legislation is passed and they are given the opportunity to go in front of the board to show that there is a need, they are… they firmly believe that they will be able to address that agreement…" Harris, D.: "Right."

"…with the… with the hospital within…" Harris, D.: "Okay."

"…30 minutes." 09900122.docx 175  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 Harris, D.: "All right. Well, then… but there are only certain hospitals which are designated as Resource Hospitals. Let me last… let me close with this question. And you're being very helpful. Part of the issue is what happens if an individual is… is picked up an ambulance and taken to this Freestanding Emergency Center, and it's determined that that person needs further care. That… that the care that cannot be provided there is… is sufficient, so it has to go somewhere else. In your Bill, it says it has to have an affiliation agreement with a hospital within in a 30… is it 30 minute radius, correct?"

"Correct." Harris, D.: "But are there not hospitals like Sinai or Cook County that… Norwegian that are within seven or eight minutes?"

"Well…" Harris, D.: "And… and if I'm in an emergency situation, I want to get to that hospital that can take care of me as quickly as they possibly can."

"Absolutely, Representative. But that is actually not true representation of what would happen. Again, if they were transporting someone by ambulance that needed acute care… acute care services, they would not go there. They will transported by that ambulance to an acute care hospital that's capable of providing the type of care that they need. If they come in off the street, now, you can't stop people from walking in off the street or driving there. But if someone comes in and off the street or walks there, isn't it better that they get the type of medical treatment immediately to stabilize that person?" 09900122.docx 176  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 Harris, D.: "Right."

"And then they are allowed to have 10 observation beds. And assuming we're referring to acute care injury…" Harris, D.: "Okay."

"…but assuming so they won't be released within in 24 hours, they're only required to… they're required to… or they can only keep that person in that facility for no more than 24 hours under observation." Harris, D.: "Okay."

"If that person is required to be transported to an acute care facility, they are required to transport that person by ambulance within 30 minutes. So either you have somebody that's coming in by amb… coming by ambulance, which they will be directed away, because they have participated in the EMS system. Or you have somebody walking in off the street, which is very unlikely." Harris, D.: "Okay."

"Which… with a trauma one, two, three for emergency, isn't it better to stabilize would then transport them, which is what happens right now. Because unless you're trauma lev… trauma level one, you can go into a trauma level three facility, have an industry that requires trauma level one health care. And what they would do is stabilize that person and then transport them to that facility." Harris, D.: "Okay. All right. You've been very helpful. I appreciate it. Just very briefly to the Bill. The Lady has done an awful lot of work on the Bill to try to put in protections. I mean, it needs a CON. It's got to go for the CON if the Bill becomes law. And my only concern would be 09900122.docx 177  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 that, and you have to make the decision on your own, but my only concern would be that it needs an affiliation. If it doesn't have that affiliation then… then how does it… how does it operate? And if I'm an emergency patient, emergency room patient, I want to get that right care as soon as I possibly can. So, I can see the good; I can see the bad. I appreciate the answer to the questions. Thank you."

"Representative Reaves-Harris to close."

"There has been much information. There's been so much mis… misinformation, so it's difficult to address all of the concerns because of the amount of difference of… misinformation that's put… put out there. First and foremost, this Bill is permissive and only allows the investors to appear in front of the Health Facilities Planning and Review Board to determine based on a needs assessment whether there's a need in the community. If there's no need, they will not be allowed to open the facility. If there is a need, then shouldn't they be allowed to fill that need? Currently, there are 25 thousand people walking away from the surrounding hospitals receiving no emergency care. The average time in the City of Chicago ranges from 6 to 10 hours of waiting in an emergency room. In addition, when did competition become such a bad thing? Shouldn't we encourage competition to ensure that the best quality of service is provided? But the reality is that with the current system, they will not be given a Certificate of Need unless they can fill a need. If allowed to operate, they will be required to comply with all current FEC requirements. If this facility is considered unsafe, then aren't all such facilities unsafe, and shouldn't they all be 09900122.docx 178  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 closed immediately? The investors… and… and I didn't mention this, but this is really important for me to state for the record because there all kinds of rumors out there about these investors. The investors are not members of ISIS as some have alluded. And if any such information exists out there, they have a duty to my community, this state, and this country to present such evidence. If not, then they are… should be ashamed of themselves and not allowed to succeed by spreading is false rumors and fear. HB854 is not a complicated piece of legislation. Misinformation and red herrings have been employed to derail the true nature of the Bill. The Bill does not create a Chicago-based FEC, instead it only allow the investor to seek a Certificate of Need permit from the Illinois Health Facilities Service and Review… Planning and Review Board. In this case, let's give them the opportunity to make their case in front of the board. Isn't that purpose of the board? The Bill does not affect anyone else's district and only mine. I ask for your support, but more importantly, my community asks for your support. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Members, be advised that Mr. Demmer has asked for a verification. Members will vote their own switches. Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 53 'yes', 55 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. Representative Reaves- Harris."

"I'd like to make a Motion for Postponement of Consideration." 09900122.docx 179  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"The Bill will be placed of the Order of Postpone Consideration. Mr. Clerk, Senate Bill 2059. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Brown is recognized."

"The Republicans will caucus in Room 18… 118 for one hour. The Democrats will also caucus in Room 114. Mr. Clerk."

"All Members should go to caucus immediately. That means, now, immediately. All Members. The House will be in recess 'til the call of the Chair. The House will be in order. Mr. Clerk. Rules report."

"House Bill 6298, Representative Tabares. Please read the Bill." 09900122.docx 180  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Third Reading. Chair recognizes the Majority Leader."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record show that Representative Acevedo is excused for the remainder of the day."

Speaker Lang: "Thank you. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 6167, Representative Sente. Representative Sente, get ready. Mr. Clerk please read the Bill. Sponsor asks that the Bill be placed on the Order of Second Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Sente on the Amendment briefly."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to move the Bill back to Second to adopt the technical Amendment. The technical Amendment adds identical language to the Election Code, Articles 4 and 6."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 6291, Representative Nekritz. Do you wish to move this Bill, Representative? Please read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09900122.docx 181  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Representative Nekritz on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Amendment address… it combines what was formerly House Bill 6290 and 6291 into one Bill. So it deals with probation for juvenile offenders and for… I can’t remember. It's a gut and replace."

"Good enough."

"Good enough."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5580, on the Order of Third Reading, Representative Wallace. Out of the record. Chair recognizes Representative Bourne."

"Thank you. Mr. Sims on House Bill 5681. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Nekritz. Representative Nekritz. You have an Amendment on Mr. Sims' Bill, Representative."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes. The Amendment clarifies some of the members of the task force that are set up by… in House Bill 5681."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor will yield."

"If you will give me a moment, Sir."

"I will."

"It would appear that you are correct about that. So, Representative, as I recall, the… the original Bill had some specific organizations listed in it. And in… in an effort to make sure that we don't run into a situation where an organization goes out of business and then we have to like find another member for a task force, I think this just, you know, made… made the organizations generic, not listed specifically by a… a ti… a title."

"That would… that would be the… so rather than naming the Chicago Teachers Union specifically, we would say an organization representing Chicago teachers. I think that's… I'm pretty sure that's what we did."

"I… I don't care to."

"Well, you know…"

"…I mean there…"

"There was a reason I handed the Bill off to Representative Sims 'cause he was much better prepared and much better able…"

"…to…"

"…to defend this…"

"…than I can."

"Can I help in some way? Those in favor of the Amendment will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Chair recognizes Mr. Butler."

Speaker Lang: "Welcome, Mr. President. We've got a lot of Presidents in this chamber. Thanks for joining us. Chair recognizes Mr. Evans. For what reason do you rise, Sir?"

"Point of personal privilege."

"You may proceed."

"If you look on the Republican side in the back, my mother, Sharon, and my little brother, Johnny. They're in the back. They came down to see the wonderful proceedings. So stand up, Sharon… mother. Give them a Springfield welcome."

"Thank you for joining us. You're as far away from him as you could possibly be. House Bill 4935, Representative Winger. Please read the Bill. Mr. Clerk, out of the record. On Supplemental Calendar #1, under the Order of Resolutions, there appears House Resolution 1143, Representative Bellock. Please proceed."

"Those in favor of the Resolution say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Resolution is adopted. House Resolution 1145, Representative Bellock. Please proceed."

"Those in favor of the Resolution say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. House Bill 4432, Mr. Moffitt. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Moffitt."

"Mr. Franks, do you rise on this Bill, Sir?"

"I do."

"Please proceed."

"Thank you. Mr. Moffitt, I… I support your Bill. But I… I want to know what other… what other incidences would it… is 09900122.docx 186  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 it allowable for students to be absent from school to be excused?"

"No. I… I appreciate that. I just… it may be something that we want when it gets over to the Senate that perhaps we expand for a few things. Because I've seen in… in my districts. And I'm glad you brought this Bill forward 'cause I think it's important. Because I think the kids learn a lot more. And I think it's… it’s important that they do that. Maybe Mr. Breen can move to the side for a second. Thank you. But I've noticed sometimes when people have missed for religious reasons. If a kid has to go to school… I… I mean, has to go to synagogue, for instance, on Yom Kippur or has Rosh Hashanah, which is not a, you know, a Christian holiday that that's not necessarily one that's able to be an excused absence. And I want to make sure that if we're doing that, that if we're doing something like this as we should, that also people of faith should be able to have excused absences that don't necessarily fall on the… on the calendar where people get the day off." 09900122.docx 187  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Maybe after it passes, we can sit with someone who helped draft this. And we can look at the other lists and see if we need to do anything."

"I think it's a great Bill."

"I think it's great. And thank you for bringing it."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, although we seem to have plenty of time. Please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, Rules Report."

"Mr. Clerk, House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment 36. Please read it in full for a second time." 09900122.docx 188  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Third Reading. The Republicans are going to caucus in Room 118. I'm told that it'll be a very brief caucus. The Democrats will do whatever Democrats do while the Republicans are in caucus. We'll stand at ease 'til the call of the Chair. It is my recommendation… it is my recommendation to the Democrats that you do not leave the chamber. The House will 09900122.docx 191  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 be in order. Mr. Clerk, House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment 58, Mr. Franks. Mr. Franks, Sir, you have an Amendment. Please proceed to your Amendment. Amendment 3. Is that correct, Sir?"

"Three. Thank… thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #3 is a result of compromise with some good government groups who asked us to make some changes. After our… during our Executive Committee we talked about having more transparency. The original Bill, this is for our… our House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #58 dealing with redistricting. And one of the… one of the criticisms I received, and they were a hundred percent right, is that we needed to give more time for the citizens to be able to evaluate the map. So my original Bill had two days. And this changes it to what the… the government… the good government groups asked for to five days. And so that's what this does. It also allows for five day review after the final map has been brought forward. So those are the changes… seven days, I'm sorry. Seven days after the final map has been done. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Mr. Breen. Yes, the Sponsor yields."

"No. And we talked about that, Mr. Breen, you and I off the floor. And it does not… does not preclude us as a General Assembly statutorily giving it to the same group if we choose. As you may… as you may know, the independent maps doesn't have that either."

"So…"

"I… I agree… I mean, I haven't voted for these maps, the Congressional ones, ever; they're gerrymandered, et cetera But we can fix… we could still do it statutorily. We don't need to do it constitutionally. So nothing here precludes us here from doing that."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields."

"Oh, I'm glad… I'm really glad you brought that up. And… and I'm a supporter of independent maps as well. And I know Leader Durkin had brought that up as well. And I'll tell you what the main differences are between the two. First of all, 09900122.docx 193  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 I'm a little concerned that the independent maps proposal may not get on the ballot because they are amending more than one Article of the Constitution. Where, is the General Assembly, as you know, can amend as many as they'd like on a particular issue. That was my first concern in and impetus to help put this together. But let me tell you some of the… the big differences. In our… in our Bill here… yeah, we could do it on Third, if you'd like."

"Okay."

"I'll… it'll take me two minutes. I'll run through it. In my Bill, in our Bill, there's no involvement from the General Assembly or the Governor. Where independent maps, the Legislative Leaders participate in the selection of the commissioners. Here, in our Bill, the… the commissioners are chosen by… by persons who are accountable to the voters and not the General Assembly. Also, in our Bill, the commissioners are prohibited for 10 years from serving the General Assembly or being appointed to a state position subject to Senate confirmation. There's no such prohibition in the independent map ones. Also, in our Bill, there's greater diversity. There's… the commissioners must reflect the ethnic, gender, and racial demographics of Illinois. In the independent maps, there's no requirement to reflect the diversity of the state. There's also greater transparency in our Bill. Our commission must hold at least 15 public hearings before adopting the final map with a majority occurring before any proposed plan 09900122.docx 194  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 is released. In the independent maps, there's no specific number of hearings required and none are required after the initial proposed plan. And also this is very important I know you'll like this, Mr. Sandack, that all meetings in our Bill, all the meetings and records must be open to the public. Whereas the independent map, the meetings and records are protected by the attorney-client privilege and are not open to the public. Also, we talk about, for instance, if a Legislator should call the commissioners and say, hey, don't move this map. This… don't move this line. This is where I live. This becomes part of the public record, which I think is very important."

"Sure."

"You don’t like loquaciousness?"

"Okay."

"Yeah."

"Yes. Many are supporting it. I'm looking for the list."

"Yes, Sir."

"No."

"And still there's one opposition: the Libertarian Party of Illinois."

"Those are your guys."

"That's a great… that's a great question. And let's hope that's our biggest problem facing us after the election in November. I'm… I'm really hop… hope…"

"If… if it would, it'd be up the Supreme Court. Because they'd make the decision. I know in other states, for instance, I believe…"

"No."

"I think it's up to the Supreme Court. And what I saw on one other state is when two of them where on, they looked at the one that got the most votes."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Arroyo." 09900122.docx 196  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, I'm… I was just reading some of this language. Is this map going to be drafted based on the census?"

"Yes."

"I want to see what it does for the Latino community. Do we gain any… are we going to be able to gain any seats?"

"You asked a very good question because this… let me tell you the major difference, and maybe I skipped it when I was talking to Mr. Sandack. But our… our Bill, our proposal requires the creation of majority, minority, and influenced districts to be a top priority. Okay? On the independent maps it doesn't require the creation of districts that… that help minority communities elect candidates of their choice. So this is our top issue after contiguous. I'm going to get the full text, but it's in there. So that's… that's the top issues, Mr. Arroyo."

"Thank you. It makes it… it means a lot to me, Jack. And the other question is, how come I'm on… I'm not on that Bill?"

"I want you on that Bill, Luis. I want you on all of my Bills."

"Thank you."

"You're on."

"If you could put me on there, I'd really appreciate it. Thank you."

"it'd be my pleasure."

"Mr. Franks to close."

"I'd ask for the Amendment to be adopted." 09900122.docx 197  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Those in favor of the Amendment 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please place HJRCA58 on the Order of First Reading and read it in its amended form for the first time."

"Mr. Clerk, please place HJRCA58 on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions, after you catch your breath, Sir."

"Leader Currie moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Mr. Clerk, Senate Bill 2059, sponsored by Leader Currie. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please withdraw Amendment #2."

"Amendment #2 is withdrawn. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Mayfield."

"Thank you, Speaker. I would like to move Amendment #4… no Amendment #3, I'm sorry, to House Bill… Senate Bill 2059. This Bill provides funding for just colleges and universities. It also includes some MAP grant money in there as well."

"Mr. Sandack." 09900122.docx 203  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"I'm sure you have many, Sir. Go right ahead."

"I would like to say yes. We had several conversations, I know myself, individuals from this side of the aisle, back in the lunchroom we talked to several individuals from your side of the aisle as well. I would say that it is a bipartisan type of deal and I… I think it's a good compromise."

"Yes. And we would like to rule those notes inapplicable. I would like to… that Motion… actually I…"

"…would like to rule it myself, but I would like to make the Motion."

"We'll… we'll get to that point, Representative."

"We'll get there? Okay. You'll get there."

"One thing at a time. Mr. Sandack has completed. Mr. Pritchard is recognized."

"Yes."

"I am… thank you for reminding me. They are included in the Bill as well. They are definitely funded in the Bill." 09900122.docx 204  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"This is a stopgap. Thank you for mentioning that because there is confusion. This is for stopgap funding just to get our universities and our colleges through the summer until we can work out a real budget. This is not the FY16' budget; it is not the FY17' budget. It is stopgap only to keep our students in school, to keep the doors of the universities and colleges open and the lights on."

"I agree. No, we still… definitely still need to have those conversations. It is my hope that we can continue those conversations in a bipartisan manner and that we can have a budget that works for everyone."

"Thank you."

"Leader Durkin."

"Mr. Phillips."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Bellock."

"Mr. Brady."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Fortner."

"Representative Hammond."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Andrade."

"Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I… I hear all this people talking about bipartisan. And I'm not sure whether it's 400 or 600 million dollars became available, but when I was here yesterday… I'm here to work. And I know everyone here is here to work, too, but it's like I'm asking… I'm sitting here and I have Northeastern in my district, John D'Amico has Northeastern in his district. And talk about negotiations, I'm like, what the hell is going on over there. They're in a room over here, the guys are going over here. I mean, I… who… who all agreed on this… on this Bill. I mean, if this was a bipartisan in agreement maybe we should have added today also a stopgap for social services. Lutheran Services has closed dozens of their locations, dozens. So, instead of… you know, that's what caucus is for. Like I said, let's lock this room and stay here, put the projector on there and go through this. Not just go in the back of the lunchroom and… lunchroom and some people decide on what we're going to do today. So, I just… this Bill also should have included social services. It should have included the 400 million for a stopgap. And I… I'm glad everyone can get a pat… pat on their back and say we're going to save the university, but what about the social services? I hope we come back tomorrow and work on the $400 million for social services so we can keep some of the… some 09900122.docx 209  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 of them open. But I mean, a person has someone… has something in his district and doesn't even get to participate for Northeastern or myself for Northeastern, maybe I… I have feelings I don't know. But I just said every… this should have been… more people should have been inclusive on… on this project. Thank you."

"Mr. Franks."

"A parliamentary inquiry?"

"State your inquiry, Sir."

"I had filed some notes and I see they're coming up now, but I'm not able to… two of the five are coming up. I'm not sure how they… to assess them?"

"You filed the note requests, Sir. You must know that they are?"

"Well, I do know… I know what they are. I'm saying they're popping up as though they're being filed, but they're not showing up on our… on our machine here. I'd like to make sure that I see those…"

"Are you intending to move forward with those note requests?"

"I am. I am. So, I'd like… But if they're coming up and we wait a few minutes, perhaps we will have them all before the vote so we'll actually know what we're voting on."

"Why don't… why we proceed with whatever comments you have, Sir."

"I'd like to wait 'til I see what the notes say, so I'll be better informed. Because right now I don't know what the fiscal impact is. I don't know what the state debt impact is. I don't know what the balanced budget impact is. I don't know 09900122.docx 210  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 what the fiscal or the state mandate fiscal impact is. And if we're going to be doing this and spending the taxpayer dollars, I have a fiduciary obligation to know what the impact is on our state and on our budget."

"Sir, this Bill is… this Bill has an Amendment pending and we will get to the note requests when we get to the note requests. So, be… the Bill cannot move to Third Reading, if there are note requests that are unfulfilled."

"Okay."

"So, if you have any comments you may proceed with them."

"Okay. I will make some at this time."

"Thank you."

"I've heard my friends on the other side laud… laud the bipartisan nature of this. I think it's blatant opportunism. I'm going to tell you why. Because we could have had this solved a long time ago. And the Governor has on his desk, right now, two Bills that would fund this at any… at any amount we want. And he can choose any amount he wants because all he has to do is amendatorily veto the Bill. But what we're doing now, should this pass, is codifying cuts to higher education. Some as high as 70 percent. Now, I know the Governor said in his introduced budget that was three and half billion dollars unbalanced that he wished to cut higher education by at least 30 percent. Though he's never directed the trustees that he's appointed and that he controls to cut the administrative costs. He had the ability to do so; he's never done so. He did introduce a budget though that was three and a half billion dollars unbalanced, much of it on the backs 09900122.docx 211  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 of higher education. Now we have an opportunity here to actually fund that education. I didn't vote for the Bill because it was unbalanced. But the fact is, it is on the Governor's desk and he has the ability by his authority to amendatorily veto it and put that money there if he truly believes it. But what he's asking us to do and what you are trying get us to do is to shoot the hostages. What you're saying is, we want to codify cuts of 70 percent to higher education. That's what this Bill does. That's what is says. This cuts education funding. The Governor ought to amendatorily veto the Bills that are on his desk right now so we are not cutting education by 70 percent. This stopgap measure I think could lead to the closure of universities. Because what it's going to do is give them a fraction of what they need. And then once the money runs out we're in the exact same position only worse. This is shortsighted; it's political. It's done only for political cover. We have an obligation to the taxpayers to do the right thing. Now, I understand the speeches on the other side and you're… some of us are breaking our arms patting ourselves on the back. But the fact is, this is not going to solve a long-term problem. It's only going to make it worse. Think about that. I want to see what these notes say because I'm telling you, folks, once we do this, it takes off the pressure to get this done. What we ought to be saying… what we ought to be saying is, Governor, the Bills are on your desk right now to fix this. Quit putting a gun to Chicago State's head. Don't kill the hostage. You have the ability to fund MAP grants right now, Governor. Do it. Do it. Why is it that it's a problem when it 09900122.docx 212  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 comes to spending money for higher education that's a problem 'cause the Governor says I want to cut 30 percent? But K-12 it's okay if he increases the expenditure amount. That's okay. That's not a tax increase when it's K-12. But when we want to protect our students, we want to protect our universities, we want to help poor kids get to go to college, that's a problem. This is a farce. The Governor ought to amendatorily veto the Bill anyway he wants, but let's see how much he wants to spend on higher education. He has the ability to do it right now. We should not be taking it out on our kids and that's what this Bill does."

"Mr. Thapedi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Amendment. When I go home, Mr. Speaker, and people ask me what… what's going on down in Springfield and I explain it to them very simply. That it's a battle between the haves and the have-nots. There's no other way to describe what's going on down here right now. It's a battle between the haves and the have-nots. And if we have a scenario in which we have an Amendment, a Bill that will save Chicago State University, I'm all for it and I ask Members to support the Amendment. Thank you."

"Representative Wallace."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"I just want to hopefully gain greater understanding in light of the comments that were made by my colleague just in front of me. This is intended to be a stopgap measure, correct?"

"Yes." 09900122.docx 213  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"And I'm hoping to my colleagues on the other side of the aisle to everyone on this side of the aisle and to the individuals on the second floor, particularly our Governor, that we are understanding that this is not to set the tone and the starting point for Fiscal Year '17 discussion of higher education funding. I hope that that is what we are all seeking to do right now. I see the President of my alma mater in the balcony. It is about to close its doors as well, WIU. And I'm just simply asking that as we consider how we're going to approach this to make sure that the students who have the least, to make sure that a university that is majority minority has an opportunity to keep its doors open. To make sure that Western, Eastern, NEIU, MSA, the community colleges, the MAP funding, make sure that that is there. So that we can make sure that we have another generation of individuals to fill the very seats that we have here. We can't do that without educating the individuals to take on roles such as these and all the other roles that we need for our society to function. But I'm simply hoping that this record will clearly show and clearly reflect that the intent of this Body today is to make sure that our students get what they need and to make sure that it is a stopgap measure and that when we decide… or when we begin to talk about FY17 funding for higher education, we all can come together as we did this time, but we will not use the funding level of this measure as the starting point. Thank you."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A question of the Sponsor please on the Amendment." 09900122.docx 214  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Sponsor yields." Harris, D.: "Representative, how much… how much dollars are going to Chicago State University?"

"Roughly 20 million." Harris, D.: "Right. And just pick a… pick any of the others out, how about… how about Eastern Illinois University?"

"Eastern will get 12.4… let' see…" Harris, D.: "Okay. Twelve point… and those…"

"U of I is getting 168, if you want to go down the list?" Harris, D.: "No, the… no, but… and that's fine. The point is that these universities that have been deprived of their dollars that they need to operate are indeed going to get money to operate through the summer, right?"

"Yes. I would have the liked the numbers to…" Harris, D.: "And there's…"

"…have been higher, but yes." Harris, D.: "…and… and as you have stated on… on several times here, this is not part of the FY17 budget; it's not part of the FY16 budget. It is a bridge to get us through or get these… these universities through the summer, right?"

"Yes." Harris, D.: "And where… where are these dollars coming from?"

"They are coming from the Education Assistance Fund." Harris, D.: "The Education Assistance Fund. And how is the Education Assistance Fund funded?"

"Through other state funds." Harris, D.: "Through… well, I think the… I think the dollars come through, if I'm not mistaken…" 09900122.docx 215  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Oh, I'm sorry. It's a percentage of the income tax." Harris, D.: "…they come through a… a portion of the… of the income tax, correct?"

"It's a whole 7 percent of the income tax." Harris, D.: "Seven percent. And the dollars are in the fund, right?"

"Yes." Harris, D.: "Yes."

"Well, yes and no." Harris, D.: "Any idea how much money is in the fund now?"

"About 300 million minus what TRS needs. So, about 280 once they take theirs out." Harris, D.: "Well, that… and we, you know, on our side, we think it may be as much as 317 million. And by the end of the fiscal year, it's going to have 600 million in it, correct?"

"That is the projection." Harris, D.: "Right. So, here is my point. To the Gentleman from McHenry County who stands up here and screams and hollers about the Appropriation Bill that we sent to the Governor, there is a difference. And the difference is, the Appropriation Bill that we sent to the Governor is for all practical purposes $3 billion of General Revenue Funds that aren't there. That's why the Governor's not going to sign the Bill because the General Revenue Funds aren't there. This money is there. It's there. It's sitting in the fund. Unlike the General Revenue Fund where there's an insufficient dollars to pay that appropriation that we foolishly passed here, the Governor can sign this, the Comptroller can cut the… cut the… can take the voucher and cut the money and get 09900122.docx 216  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 the school… get the money to the schools that need it. That's the difference to my distinguished colleague from… from McHenry County, the difference between the General Revenue Fund and the Education Assistance Fund. This is a good Amendment that was worked out in a bipartisan manner. It may not be everything that was… that everybody seeks. And my colleagues who are concerned about the commitment to Social Services Fund are right, we ought to be looking at social services because they need the money as well. But my friend, this makes sense. We need to do this. We need to do it now. Vote 'yes'."

"Mr. Kay."

"Sponsor yields."

Speaker Lang: "Representative Nekritz. No running, Representative."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you for your patience. To the Bill. I think that the solution today to keep our universities open is an… a very important goal. But what… what has happened continually down here when we negotiate and… and reach budget solutions is that somehow human services always gets left behind. It's never the top priority here. It's maybe… everybody stands up and talks about for the… to support the developmentally disabled and support the mentally ill and support people with substance abuse and how important it all is, but it always gets left behind. And… and I have to say, my… my girlfriend Kathy Ryg who served here for many years really highlighted that for me, but when… she really cared deeply about those things and… but it always got left 09900122.docx 218  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 behind. And here we are once again leaving it behind. And I get that… that these big institutions that impact students are about to close and so we have to do something about that, but I guarantee there's not one of us in this chamber who hasn't had some agency close or lay people off or… and that… the people that are depending on those services are out in the cold. And here we are doing it again. And we have, I think, an opportunity if we would maybe slow down for 24 hours to maybe get some money in there to do something for human services. But when we just pretend like that's, you know, oh well, we'll fix that later. We always say that. We always say, we'll fix it later. We'll find more money later. And… and inevitably we end up whacking human services in every budget. And that's happened year after year when as I… as I've been serving in the General Assembly. So, it just makes me really sad that… that we can't find a way to… to solve a few more problems in the same way that this one got solved. I think there's resource… there's another fund out there that we could utilize to solve some of those problems in the same way that we are solving some of these problems. And I… I just wish for once we could come together. And… and fulfill the rhetoric that we all say when we're at home and we're talking to the… the agencies in our districts and we say, yes, we're with you. And yes, we're supporting you. I wish we could for once put our money where our mouth is."

"Representative Moeller."

"Thank you, Speaker. On May 8 the Ecker Center that operates in Elgin is going to be closing a facility that serves women who need to live in a Community Integrated Living 09900122.docx 219  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 Arrangement. This closure is coming despite the fact that generous members of… of my community and the surrounding area have raised nearly $40 thousand to keep the facility open through private donations. Two months ago we lost a heroin addiction in-home facility operated by Lutheran Children and Family Services in Elgin. They will no longer be operating in Elgin. They've informed me that they don't anticipate that they'll ever be able to reopen the facility regardless of when we come to an agreement on this budget impasse. When are we going to stand up and acknowledge the crisis that's happening with our social service agencies like we're doing this evening with higher ed? And… and while I applaud the bipartisan effort that's gone into crafting this agreement that we're going to be voting on this evening and I'm glad that we're finally acknowledging that we can't let our universities crumble in this state, that they… that they're important to our… our economic development, our economy and the future of this… of this state, it's… it saddens me that we can't come to that kind of acknowledgement when it comes to the social services and the… the programs that so many of my constituents rely on, so many services that your constituents rely on. When are we going to get to an agreement on those kinds of services? This is a crisis that did not have to happen. Since last July we have been without a state budget. And we didn't have to get to this point. I guess, in speaking to the Bill tonight, I am prepared to support moving forward so that we don't lose these critical institutions of higher education here in Illinois. But to echo what some of my colleagues on… on this side of the aisle have said this 09900122.docx 220  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 cannot… this isn't a victory in the sense that we're solving any fundamental problem that we're experiencing here. That we… we can't look at this as something that we can walk away from tonight and… and say we've… we've solved a problem so for the next few months we can just ignore the fact that our social service agencies are crumbling. And the fact that we are cutting higher education funding by nearly 70 percent for… for many of our universities with this Bill. So, I'm glad that we can come to a… a short term solution for Chicago State, we don't want to see them fail. But we need to get back to what we really… focusing on solving this budget crisis fundamentally. Because I know that in just a few short weeks there will be other services that will be closing, more people who will be harmed by the inaction. And the fact that we are holding this budget hostage on issues that are… that have very little to do with the financial health and stability of this state. Thank you."

"Representative Feigenholtz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Mayfield, I want to applaud you on your work on this Bill and I truly, truly understand this dire situation Chicago State is in. My alma mater, Northeastern Illinois University, and I have talked many, many times about when the gauntlet drops on that school and all of the future programs are being cut because of what's going on in Springfield. But I… I also have to say that I know after working with you for many years, Representative Mayfield, on human services that you have a big heart and 09900122.docx 221  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 your community also has great, great need in human services and social services. I know that like Representative Moeller and Representative Nekritz just mentioned that every day we get a call or a letter of a community provider who is stopping intake, who is phasing out a program. And we also hear from our hospitals that our emergency rooms… and the emergency rooms are picking up the slack at four times the cost of what those community providers were providing. Members of the House, this is like Sophie's Choice. One of my colleagues earlier when we were talking on the floor said that we are eith… we're either choosing to get hit by a bus or hit by a truck. No truer words have been spoken about our situation. I am just hoping that perhaps even before we go home today or tomorrow that we will consider doing the same kind… giving the same kind of relief to some of these providers in the human services arena that also are in dire, dire straits. Thank you."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, G.: "So, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Before I proceed with remarks I wanted to make to the Bill, I just wanted to clear up something I think that was said earlier that just needs to be cleared up and that regards Senate Bill 2046, which sits on Governor Rauner's desk. And the Gentle… the Gentleman from Arlington Heights said the difference between what we're doing here today and the difference between the higher education funding in Senate Bill 2046 is that in Senate Bill 2046 it is funded by GRF funds. So, I… I have in front of me here pages 32 and forward on House Bill… or on Senate Bill 2046. So, I just want to point out that the actually the 09900122.docx 222  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 funding source for the Bill we are looking at today is exactly the same funding source that sits before the Governor should he have decided to sign that Bill that has been on his desk for several weeks. So, just wanted to clear the record on that. That being said, funding higher education, funding human services and funding the things that, you know, we have to go home and talk to our constituents about and that our families need is the single most important job that we do here in the General Assembly. It is the one thing that constitutionally we are mandated to do every year. We are required to send a budget to the Governor, the Governor is required to take action. In this fiscal year I just want to remind folks in the General Assembly that in fact the Governor did propose a budget to us that was several billion dollars out of balance, you know, we… we know that. That's in the record. We sent to the Governor a spending plan which was also several billion dollars out of balance, that is also in the record and it came in a number of pieces. The Governor chose to veto higher education, he vetoed human services, he vetoed public safety, he did sign K-12. And that leads us to where we are today. Where, you know, for a lot of us we… we read a publication called Capitol Fax that is a journal of what goes on down here in the State of Illinois. And sadly, I think it's a very sad commentary that one of the main features that they posted on that website for the last several months is a feature called 'Another hostage dies'. Another hostage dies and Mr. Miller, the… the writer of that blog, catalogs the carnage that is happening in public safety, that is happening in the human service programs across our state, 09900122.docx 223  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 that is happening in higher education, that is happening to students who rely on MAP grants. Day by day another tick, another tock, and it's all bad news. We now know something really, you know, cataclysmic could happen in the next couple days, that is Chicago State University could close. One of the most venerable higher education institutions in the state. Long history and its history and its significance cannot be overstated. And it's important that it be preserved. And the same goes for Northern and Northeastern and Western and Southern, each in its own way is very important to the communities it serves. They have a history, they have value and they are something we ought to be funding. And I'm glad that it has spurred us to act… I'm glad it has spurred us to act in a bipartisan way to offer up an Amendment that would fund those institutions. I wish that, you know, when we sent the Bill to the Governor earlier when Lutheran Social Services was laying off 750 people, when Haymarket Center was closing some of its treatment programs, when home care providers were not being paid, when we reduced eligibility on child care providers earlier this year that we had found that sense of urgency at the time because each of these things is important and critical to our folks. So, I… I was very glad to hear the Leader on the other side say that, you know, he's looking forward next to moving into a trajectory of sitting down and finding a solution to the human service issues that confront us. Because it is not just simply those items that are human services that we… that stand at risk that could be paid for out of the Human Services Fund. There was another Bill… another Amendment, one that we did not consider today that 09900122.docx 224  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 also considered $300 million worth of Maintenance of Effort agreements related to addiction treatment, mental health services and disability services. Should the State of Illinois not make its Maintenance of Efforts payments as required by our… our agreements with the Federal Government, we stand to lose billions, literally billions of dollars of federal money that now flows from Washington, D.C., to our state that helps us provide for some of the most vulnerable and frail populations. So, while we need to deal with our human service budgets and the individual agencies, we cannot forget to deal with the Maintenance of Effort agreements also. Nor can we leave behind those who some say, well, others will take care of them or you know, we don't have room for them. You know, we have to be sure that our immigrant and refugee populations are served. We have to be sure that homeless youth are taken care of. We need to be sure that the Epilepsy Program and the Autism Program and the Alzheimer's Program have their full funding. And a lot of us like to run… go to their press conferences and wear their pins and you know, speak about them on the floor. But when, you know, push comes to shove, it's being sure that they have the ability to stay open and provide services that those folks are going to remember. And that's what we need to do when we craft this human services budget. It… it will be more complicated, it will be more complex. And I dare say, it will be larger simply because of the number of lines, the number of services and the number of institutions that are served. It is more complicated than universities that you can name. It is people in services and every corner of this state, which we all know 09900122.docx 225  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 in our own neighborhoods. But the… here in this great chamber, you know, we might not know all the names. We don't know who takes care of our seniors. We don't know who takes care of the people with disabilities. We don't know who treats people with substance abuse in every corner of the state. But each and every one of them is important in southern Illinois, central Illinois, in the suburbs and the City of Chicago. And if we do not provide them enough funding to keep them open, keep their employees on the payroll, keep their families from leaving the State of Illinois because of desperation, not knowing where their next paycheck is going to be coming from, we will have not only done, you know, our constituents a disservice, we will have done a disservice to our entire state. So, Ladies and Gentlemen, you know, I… I look forward to helping higher education, but I also look forward to working with people to be sure that we have the adequate resources. And I don't want to sit down and have a discussion where we are… well, we might be able to say this is, you know, a little bit comes from GRF and some from other state funds. We have to do the things that need to be done, and we have to do the right things to keep these services funded and to keep our promises to the folks that they take care of. Thank you."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative Mayfield, I want to take this opportunity to say thank you. I'm very proud of you. You put up a good fight for Chicago State. And the students and the teachers and the professors and the people that work at Chicago State owe you a debt of gratitude. And once again, you are to be commended. But let me just say this, 09900122.docx 226  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 this does not make any of us feel good… what we are about to do. Because throughout the years, Ladies and Gentlemen, we have been playing games with people's lives. We've done ourselves a disservice. In January of this year, this Governor said that he wanted us to roll back the tax increase. So, we went from 5 percent back down to 3.75 percent. That was $5 billion that he just threw away. He just said, get rid of it. Knowing that we were working in a deficit. Knowing throughout the years that higher education has not been funded properly. Knowing that education is not affordable; it is not attainable for the poor. We need to be realistic about what it is that we're doing here. And just the other day there was a resolution on the board to talk about a millionaire tax. That millionaire tax went down. For those of you who eagerly want to support this Bill, but do not want to support other Bills such as human services and other social programs and other Bills that are needed for the people of the State of Illinois. What we have here is a funding problem. We do not have enough money to fill this gap. Once we do this funding gap, Ladies and Gentlemen, and then come September and October and then what? And then what? Where are we going to get the money from? Where are we going to get the money for the social service program? What hospitals are we going to close? What people are we going to let die? What programs are… are we going to allow cut? And how many more kids will be able to register and graduate or pay their tuition? And what about the children who are in need of the social services program that we're not going to fund because we're going to fund Chicago State? What about the kids that needs the bus services that are 09900122.docx 227  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 handicapped? What about the blind, the crippled and the disabled? What about the medication that they're going to need to go to school? What about it? Oh, oh, I'm sorry. That doesn't matter. It's all about keeping Chicago open… Chicago State open and we should feel good and forget about the rest. But as I said before, we have a funding problem and we need to do something about it. And on the Governor's desk right now he has a Bill that we sent him two weeks ago that he said that he was going to veto. The Governor said, send it to me and I'm going to veto it. Two weeks later the Governor still hasn't vetoed that Bill. You know why? Because the Governor know that the power is in his hands. He could amendatory veto that legislation and fund anything his heart desires but oh no, he want us to do his heavy lifting for him. He want us to make these cuts. And so, already education has been cut throughout the years about 40 percent and we're going to cut it even more. And we're going to feel real good about it. Ladies and Gentlemen, again, I applaud my colleague for bringing forth this important piece of legislation. But I want to remind you of the people that we're walking over, stepping on to get to where we shouldn't have to be because the Governor has the responsibility. He is the ultimate decider of who gets funded because all he has to do is amendatory veto that Bill and he can do anything that he want. But he wants us to do his dirty work for him and I am appalled by that. We need some money in order to fund all the things that we need to fund in this state. And I'm going to say this and I'm going to take my seat. We need a financial transaction tax and that way we don't have to choose… we will not have to 09900122.docx 228  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 choose which one of our constituents is more important than the other. Now where are you on that? If you want this, you should want the financial transaction tax. You should want moneys to service all of our constituents, all of our schools. We need to reduce the cost of education, not increase. We need to make sure more children are able to go to college, not less. This Bill will guarantee that fewer students will be able to attend Chicago State College. Thank you."

"Mr. Arroyo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, I know that you're trying to do the right thing. I think you did the right thing for the universities. But the two caucuses that negotiated with the other side… I'll say the other side, did you guys even consider CTU? I'm a State… I'm a State Legislator for the City of Chicago. For the whole state also. But we have a crisis with CTU. We're going to go on strike, there's a countdown. CPS, we're going to go on strike. In those conversations, did you have a conversation with the other side about what's happening in the City of Chicago?"

"The answer is, no. We did not discuss any human services, public safety or other appropriations."

"If I… I think that we got a raw deal by cutting higher education by 70 percent. I think that I would have liked to be considered to be part of that negotiation because I would have been negotiating for CPS and they're about to go on strike. That is also essential to a lot of the parents in the City of Chicago. The Downstate Caucus I don't know if they 09900122.docx 229  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 care about the City of Chicago, I don't know if the other side cares about the City of Chicago, but the Legislators that serve the City of Chicago have a big concern for what's going on there. What happens with us? Are they going to willing… are they going to be willing to negotiate with us so we don't have a strike also? Or you think that maybe we could amend this Amendment to try to put education… let's make it education as a whole, which is… even if it's a 70 percent… CPS right now could take anything. We need anything before they go on strike, they're going to go on strike. I wouldn't like to see that. And they're holding us hostage with that, too. This is a… this is not good negotiation from where I stand. I know you have a passion for the universities, I also do. I believe everybody here has a… has an obligation to make sure that universities don't close. I have a university close to me, Wright College, in my district. I don't want that to close. We don't want any of the essential programs to close. But I would like for you to put an Amendment on there. Have the other side work with us also to probably come back together to make sure CPS doesn't go on strike. Our parents are going to be hurt. They're not going to be able to go to work to watch their kids. Who knows how long this strike is going to take. They already did it one day. Are they going to keep doing it and doing it? They… they're putting us in a corner we don't want to be. I don't want to be. I'm confused when I vote for this or I don't vote for it. It's really confusing. It's heartbreaking that we would have to vote on something these days to take a 70 percent cut on higher education. That's crazy. That is crazy. And thanks to the 09900122.docx 230  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 other side, that's all on your back. That's your responsibility. That's the way you want to conduct business; I don't know if I want to negotiate with that kind of negotiations. Thank you very much. I applaud what you're doing for the universities, but this is not the way to do it. If you were talking about higher education, you should have talked about secondary education as well. Let's make it an education Bill. Now they're going to sit back and say, I'm not going to… I'm not negotiating with CPS. I don't want to do this and I don't want to do that. We're in a bad situation. But thank you, I applaud for what you're trying to do for the universities."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Representative Mayfield to close."

"I'd just like to mention that this… the purpose of this Bill is simply to provide emergency funding to get our universities through the summer with the hope that we will continue to work on a budget so that we can fully fund them. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"We're going to… Chair recognizes Representative Mayfield."

"I'd like to make a Motion to rule the note inapplicable." 09900122.docx 231  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"We'll take one debater on each side. Representative Mayfield moves to held the note inapplicable. Mr. Franks made the Motion… filed the note, so we'll let him be the debater on the other side. Mr. Franks."

"Thank you. I don't know where to start. I… I don't know how one can argue that a fiscal note is inapplicable on an Appropriation Bill. I couldn't think of anything more applicable. I've stood with you guys. I have. Hey… this is… this is important. You know, right now we have the worst funded pension system in the country. We have the lowest credit rating in the country. Hey, we're worse than a lot of other nations too. I think we're… we're worse than Iran when is, comes to where we are with budget. We have $7.8 billion dollars in unpaid bills and without a budget our Comptroller says, it's going to be go $10 billion within 2 months. You might have seen that some people aren't getting paid in this state; that our social service agencies are crumbling around us. I don't know if anyone's gone to a doctor lately, but I want you to know that your physician that you're going to is not getting paid for 522 days. So, you can make light and say this… this is not… this is not applicable, but what we do here has real-world ramifications, spending money and adding more debt. We passed a Bill the other day when we have this huge amounts of debt and we don't have a budget. One of the solutions on the other side was to dig a deeper hole and to give more bonding authority so we could go deeper into debt. That was the solution. I felt like I was… like I was in Alice in Wonderland here. We have fiduciary responsibilities to the citizens of the State of Illinois. We need to know what the 09900122.docx 232  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 fiscal impact is. This isn't about a feel good Bill because quite frankly, we heard some of the arguments. Understand that in September when this mon… this money runs out, what have we really accomplished? All it means is in September we have another crisis and perhaps the schools don't open then. So, let's not kid ourselves that this is fixing anything long- term. But we ought to at least know what the cost is and what bigger hole we're going to have to dig out of now. So, to argue that this is somehow inapplicable is disingenuous. I would move that the Lady's Motion be voted down."

"Representative Mayfield to close on her Motion."

"Please vote 'yes'."

"This Motion requires 60 votes. Those in favor of the Lady's Motion to hold the fiscal note inapplicable will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 93 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no'. And the Lady's Motion prevails. And the fiscal note request is held inapplicable. Mr. Clerk."

"Are there additional notes, Mr. Clerk?"

"Mr. Clerk, you have all the notes?"

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill for a Third time." 09900122.docx 233  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016

"Ladies and Gentlemen, we've thoroughly debated this Bill. We're going to hear one person on each side. The Sponsor… Representative Mayfield."

"I'm sorry. I received a request from my Members to hold the Bill and to call it tomorrow on Third Reading."

"At… at the request of the Sponsor who controls her own Bill, Ladies and Gentlemen, the Bill will be removed from the record. Chair recognizes Mr. Davis. For what reason do you rise, Sir?" Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I just want to cancel the Appropriations Committee for tonight, that's all."

"Thank you, Sir. It was a welcome breath of fresh air. Mr. Sims."

"Point of personal privilege, Mr. Speaker."

"Please proceed."

"I have two very special guests with me here on the floor. My daughters are here, Kennedy and McKenzie. And I also have, on the Republican side of the aisle, my mom is also with us. So, mom stand-up and would everybody welcome them to Springfield for me."

"Welcome. How come all you guys always have your moms over there? Ah, I see. Yeah, okay. Representative Moeller is recognized."

"Thank you. Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed."

"I would like to welcome former resident of Illinois, Christine Curtis, who now has fled the state, lives in 09900122.docx 234  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 122nd Legislative Day 4/21/2016 Missouri. She's back. Welcome to the State Capitol, Christine."

"Thank you. Welcome aboard. Mr. Clerk, committee announcements."

"Chair recognizes Mr. Sandack."

"State your inquiry, Sir."

"Leader Currie has announced to the Chair that she asked the Sponsor of the Amendment to take the Bill out of the record. Mr. Davidsmeyer is recognized."

"She gave her permission to take the Bill out of the record, Sir. If you like, we can have Leader Currie tell you that? Mr. Sandack."

"Sir, you're not incorrect except I'm told by Leader Currie that she suggested that… that she asked…"

"Either way, Sir, the… the Chair takes Bills out of the record all day long. Yours and everybody else's."

"Mr. Demmer is recognized."

"State your inquiry."

"We've been waiting for the Adjournment Resolution, but we have not received it yet, Sir."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer is recognized."

"State your inquiry."

"I don’t have an Adjournment Resolution from the Senate, so I can't answer… cannot answer that question for you, Sir."

"I'm sorry, Sir?"

Speaker Lang: "The Senate makes their own rules and their decisions, Sir. We don't make those decisions for them."

"Mr. Batinick is recognized."

"Small or large, go ahead, Sir."

"And now, leaving perfunctory time for the Clerk, Leader Currie now moves that the House stand adjourned until tomorrow, April 22 at the hour of 9 a.m. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the House stands adjourned."