Illinois Senate Floor Debate — May 24, 1989

The hour of ten having come and gone, the Senate Will please come to order. Will the Members be at their desks, and will our guests in the gallery kindly rise. Prayer this morning by the Reverend Dale D. Leland, Good Shepherd Lutheran Church, Rochester, Illinois. Reverend.

(Prayer given by the Reverend Dale Leland)

Thank you, Reverend. Reading of the Journal, Madam Secretary.

Senate Journals of Wednesday, April 26th: Thursday: April 27th7 Friday, April 28th; Tuesday, May 2: Wednesday, May 3: Thursday, May 47 Friday, May 5; Tuesday, May 9) Wednesday, May l0; Thursday, May ll; Fràday, May l2; Monday, May l5; and Tuesday pardon me, Tuesday, May 16th; and Wednesday, May 17th, 1989.

Senator Hall.

Mr.

Senator Hall.

Mr. President, I move that the Journals just read by the Secretary be approved unless some Senator has additions or corrections to offer.

You 've heard the motion as placed by Senator Hall. Is there any discussion? If not: al1 in favor indicate by sayin: Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have 1t. The motion carries, and it is so ordered. Messages from the House.

STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATC TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24y 1989 A Message from the House by Mr. O'Brien, Clerk. Mr. President am directed to inform the Senate thae the House of Representatives has passed bills of khe following titles, in *he passage of whieh I am instructed to ask the concurrenee of the Senate, to wit: House Bills 32, 141, 187, 238, 239, 296, 421, 498: 574, 583, 584, 612, 702, 835, 839, 841, 842, 848: 851, 862, 864. 865, 881, 921, 1128, 1136, 1173, 1184, 1194, 1514, 1530: 1543, 1549, 1769, 1782, 1827, 1839, 18:8, 2G33, 2Q38, 2G52, 2171, 2362: 2571, 2592, 2594, 2606, 2607, 2624, 2626, 2664, 2765 and 2803. Passed the House May 23, 1989. A Message from the House by Mr. O'Brien, Clerk. Mr. President - I am dkrected to knform the Senate that the House of Representatives has adopted khe followinq Joint Resolution, in the adoption of which I'm instructed to ask the concurrence of khe Senate, to wit: House Joint Resolution 53. And it is congratulatory. PRESIDENT ROCK: Consent Calendar. SECRETARY HAWKER: A Message from the House by Mr. O 'Brien, Clerk. Mr. President I am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has eoncurred with the Senate in the passage of a bill of the followinq title, to Wit: Senate Bill 385, wikh House Amendmen: 1. PRESIDENT ROCK: Secrekary's Desk. Senator Hawkinson, for What purpose do you arise, sir? SENATOR HAWKINSON: Thank you, Mr. President. I would like to ask leave of the Body for immediate consideration of Senate Resolution 3-3-1. Itês 2 ''- k  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989 a congratulatory resolution that needs to be presented today.

A1l right. The Gentleman seeks leave to go to the Order of Resolutions for the purpose of immediately considering and adopkin: a congratulatory resolution. Wiehout objectione leave is granted. Resolutions, Madam Secretary. Senate Resolution 331. Senator Hawkinson.

Thank you, Mr. President. It's a congratulatory resolution to be presented ko a grade school student today.

All riqht. Senator Havkinson has moved to suspend the rules for the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Resolution 331. Those in favor of the Motion to Suspend indicate by sayin: Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have The rules are suspended. Senator Hawkinson now moves to adopt Senate Resolution 331, a congratulatory resolution. All in favor of the adoption indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have The resolution is adopted. Senator Daley, for what purpose do you arisey sir? SENATOR DALEYI Mr. President and Members of the Senate. I move to Table the following bills, and they are 1146, 1225, 1227, 1237, 1241, 1242: 1249, 1250, 1284, 1395 and 1399.

All right. The Senator has moved to Table eleven bills. If everybody would follow that example. wefd be out of here tonight. I'd ask Senator Marovitz and Barkhausen to pay attention to this motion, it's a very -- it's a lovely motion. Senator has moved to Table Senate Bills 1146, 1225-27-37-41-42-49-50-84, 1395 and 1399. All in favor of the motion to Table indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The bills are Tabled . Ladies and Gentlemeny ve'll begin on the Order of Recalls. I eould ask the 3  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24p 1989 Members to please be aekeneive. In addition, I understand that the Agreed Bill List and the proeedure -- explanation has been distributed. I'd call your attention to that and ask you to attempt, at least, to abide by the time lines. We'll begin on the Order of Recalls and then welre going immediaeely to 2nd Reading, to handle the bills on 2nd Reading, including obviouslyz the appropriation bills. So With leave of the Bodyz we'll start on the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading. Al1 right. I'd ask the Members to please be attentive and be in their seats. Those not entitled to *he Floor, I'd ask you to vacate. Wedre goin: to handle the recalls and then We have, as We always do annually: a Memorial Day Program . So I'd ask the Members to please be attentive. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill No. 1. Senator Welch seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave ts granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readinq, Senate Bill 1, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. l offered by Senator Welch.

Senator Welch.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 1, I believep amends the effective date from July l of 1989, till July 1 of 1990. I would move for adoption. PRESIDENT ROCE; Senator Welch has moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 1. Any discussion? If not, al1 in favor indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Maitland. 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 PRESIDENT ROCII: . Senator Maitland.

Thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. M endment No. 2 to Senate Bill 1 creates, also, a separate board for Illinois State University. By creating a separate board for Northerny we do create a problem for both Illinois State and Sangamon State, and I'nl not sure What the final outcome of this will be, but I -- I believe it imperative that Sangamon State and Illinois State be protected in this -- in this effort, and I would ask for -- for your support. Would answer any questions, and would move for the adoption.

Senator Maitland has moved the adop*ion of M endment No. 2 to Senate Bill 1. Discussion? If not, all in favor indicate by saying Aye -- I beg your pardon -- Senator Welch. A11 you have to do is turn the light on.

It was onr I -- I thought. Anyway# I rise in opposition to this amendment. This amendment Was part of the bill that Was... PRESIDENT ROC: : I'm going to have to insist now. The staff is goin: to have to get off the Floor unless this movement stops. Senator Welch.

Thank you, Mr. President. This amendment has already been voEed on as a bill; and Ehe bill did not pass. It receivedg I believe. 28 vokes . The amendment would create a separate qoverning board for Illinois State University. The bill creates a separate boverning board for Northern Illinois University. One of the major reasons for opposing the separate governi.ng board, by khe Board of Regents, is that i.t would lead to a proliferation of separate governing boards throughout the State of Illinois. The . 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th REGE UN LM EML SEA SSS IO EM NBLY j SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 amendment Senator Maitland is proposinq will do exactly that. What1s going to happen without this amendment, is that Illinois State and Sangamon State will, in effect# have a separate governing board, because there will only be two schools under the Board of Regents . They will only have two schools to govern, so they're qoing to, in effect, have the same result as this amendment. This amendment is meant to slow down Senate Bill 1. A separate bill was proposed. It didn't receive the support of the majority in this Body, and Senator Maitland should propose his own bill, perhaps amend his own bill on higher education to create this. I think that this bill should be voted on on its merits, and by itself , without this amendment . So, I would urge a No vote on this amendment .

All right. Senator Maitland has moved the adoption of M endment No. 2 to Senate Bill l. Is there further discussion? Senator Maitland# you wish to close?

I need -- what? PRESIDENT ROCK J ïou wish to close? Any parting remarks for -- No. Senator Maitland's moved the adoption of M endment No. 2 to Senate Bill l. Those in favor of the amendment will vote Aye . Opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted Who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted Who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 27 Ayes e 31 Nayse none votin: Present. The amendment fails. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. On the Order of Eenate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 5. Top of Page 11. Senator del Valle seeks leave of 6 7 I ! STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989 the Body -- middle of Page is Senate Bill 32. Senator Smith seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendmene. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate 9i1l 32. Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWXER) Amendment No. offered by Senaeor Smith. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator smith. SENATOR SMITH: Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senate Bi1l 32 -- this amendment will insure that the Illinois workers will receive a minimum kage increase that will be negotiated between Congress and the President, but will also guarantee to Illinois businesses that our State rate will not, at this time, go higher than the federal minimum wage. I believe this to be a fair, well-balanced approach, and urge your support. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Smith has moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Dill 32. Discussion? If not: al1 in favor indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKCR : No further amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: 3rd Readinq. Bottom of Page ll. Senator Topinka seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 55 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 55, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWXER: 7  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRKNSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24 , 1989 Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Topinka.

Senator Topinka.

ïes, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No. 2 is an agreed amendment between the three agencies that are involved here. This is the telecommunications Hlnsdale fire bill. In terms of further defining down What this will entail in -- in bringing together the three agencies to promulgate rules and regulations to avoid a future fire.

Senator Topinka's moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 55. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Middle of Page l2. Senate Bill 90. Senator Lechowicz seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 7nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 90: Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Lechowicz.

Senator Lechowicz.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No. 2 is strictly a technical amendment and I move for its adoption.

8 I ,  STATE OF ILLINQIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Senator Lechowicz has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 90. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted . Furtber amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 146. Senator Hawkinson. Top of Page 13. Senator Hawkinson seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 146 to the Order of 2nd Readin: for the purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 146, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Hawkinson.

Senator Hawkinson.

Thank -- thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 2 corrects and does khat we were attempting to do With Amendment No. Iîve cleared it with Senator Holmberg and Democratic staff, and I think just puts the language in the shape that We had intended with Amendment No.l.

Senator Hawkinson has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 146. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Middle of Page l3. Senator Geo-Karis seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 210 to the Order of 2nd 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 I I Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave 1 is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readin: is Senate Bill 210, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 1 offered by Senator Thomas Dunn.

Senator Dunn.

Qhank you, Mr. President. This amendment would remove Will County from the bill; and it's by agreement with the sponsor, Senator Geo-Karis.

Al1 right. Senator Dunn has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate 3ill 210. Discussion? If notr al1 in favor indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendmentts adopted. Purther amendments? SECRETARY RAWKERI No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 233. Senator Etheredge. Top of Page 14. Senator Etheredge seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 233 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 233, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 1 offered by Senator Etheredge.

Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This amendnent incorporates the agreement that has been worked out between the school people and the county offickals in Dupaqe; and j 10 r STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 also adds an immediate effective date. would move for its adoption. PRESIDENT ROCE: Senator Etheredge has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 233. Is there any discussion? If notr a1l in favor indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: No further amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: 3rd Reading. 272. Senator Smith. Senator Smith seeks leave of Ehe Body, middle of Page l4: to return Senate Bill 272 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave qranted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 272, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY EAWKER: Amendment No. offered by Senator Smith. PRESIDENT ROCE: Senator Smith, on Amendment No. 1. SENATOR SMITH: Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This amendment merely changes the effective date from the immediate 7-1-90. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Smith's moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 272. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: No further amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: 3rd Reading. Top of Page 15. Senator Berman seeks leave of 11  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 I the Body to return Senate Bill 293 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendmenk. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On khe Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 293, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 1 offered by Senator Berman.

Senator Berman.

Thank you, Mr. President. Senate Amendment No. 1 ko Senate Bill 293 strips the bill. The -- the bill addresses a question of underinsured motorist coverage. In order to continue our discussions with the industry and the department I've agreed to -- I've agreed to - to remove the substance of the bkllz move kt out as a vehicle to allow us to continue our discussions. I've checked this With the Chairman of the Committee and the Minority spokesman. I move the adoption of Amendment No. 1.

Senator Berman has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 293. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 333. 499. 506. Eênator Marovitz seeks leave of the Body -- top of Page 17, to return Senate Bill 506 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is SenaEe Bill 506, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Marovitz. 1 I 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 1 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Marovitz. I SENATOR MAROVITZ: Thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 506 was an amendment that was requested jointly by Senator Hawkinson and Senator Carroll. It's a good-faith exception involvinq care of the elderly; and I know of no objection. I would ask for adoption. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Marovitz has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 506. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Purther amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: No further amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: 3rd Reading. 519. Senator Fawell seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 5l9 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 519, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKER : Amendment No. l offered by Senator Fawell. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Pawell. SENATOR PAWELL: Thank you very much. This amendment becomes the bill and provides that no township supervisor or trustee, durinq the term of office for which he's electedz may acceptz be appoinked to, or hold any office unless provided by law. Perîod. This is an agreed amendment between Senator Jacobs and myself. I think it's cleared up any question, and I aSk for your... I I 13 k - - - . - -  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TKANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 PRESIDENT ROCKt Senator Fawell's moved the adoption of Amendmenk No. l to Senate Bill 519. Discussion? If notz all kn favor indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: No further amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: 3rd Readinq. 631. Senator Welch. Bottom of Page l8. Senator Welch seeks leave of the Body Eo return Senate Bill 63l to the Order of 2nd Reading for purpose of an amendment. Is leave qranted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readinq is Senate 3ill 631, Madam Secretary. . SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 1 offered by Senator Welch. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senakor Welch. SENATOR WELCH : Thank you, Mr. President. What this amendment does, is delete everything after the -- enacting clausez to begin with . Secondly, this is an attempt to resolve the Lenz Oi1 Waste Oi1 situation. What We are trying to do is create a fund for cleanup on behalf of small generators who have been grouped in With the Lenz Oil situation, where a waste oi1 hauler had a license, but yet improperly disposed of waste, causinq those generators to be liable for a proporkionate share. What this will dog is create a one-cent waste oil cleanup fee to be used on each can of oil -- quart of okl sold kn the State of Illknoks. I would move for adoption of the amendment. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Welch has moved theadoptionofAmendmentNo.lto 1 I SenateBtll691. Discussion? 631:I'msorry. Discussion? If-- $ 14 ' k STATE OF ILLINOIS j 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY ! REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 I'm sorry. Senator Schuneman. SENATOR SCHUNEMAN: Question of the sponsor, Mr. President. PRESIDENT ROCK: Indicates he Will yield. Ladies and Gentlemen. I'm going to have to insist. SENATOR SCHONEMAN: Senator, my antenna went up Nhen you mentioned Lenz 0i1. Is - - does this amendment have anythinq ko do with the actual settlement of that case, or is thks prospective? PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH: The tax would begin January l of 1991. If those cases are not paid if the generators have nok paid that, then the EPA couldg potentially, use this money to replace their required payment into the fund. So# in effect, it could, if those cases dragqed on much longer. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Schuneman. SENATOR SCHUNEMAN: Does your amendment do anything about the present provision in the 1aw that, in effecty would make any one generator responsible for the entire cleanup cost? Or -- or would a1l the cleanup cost be paid out of this fund now? PRESIDEXT ROCK: Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH : The answer to your first question is no. It doesn't do anything about one generator being potentially liable for the entire cost of the -- of the cleanup action. That, basically, was Senator Friedland's bill on -- on separate liability. As to the 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Leqislative Day May 24, 1989 other question; a small generator is defined as anyone who I generates waste all -- oil and has a gross annual income of less than one million dollars a year. So they would be the ones Who would be able to get the money from this fund to pay their proportionate share of liability.

Purtber discussion? Further discussion? Senator Welch has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 631. No further discussion. All in favor indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Top of Page 19. Senator Berman seeks leave of the Body -- on the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 659. Senator Berman seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 659, Madam Secretary. SECRETARX EAWKERI Amendment No. l offered by Senator Berman.

Senator Berman.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 1 deletes the provisions of Senate Bill 659 and inserts into it an amendment requested by the Illinois Department of Public Hea1th Which conformsIllinolsSchoolAsbestosAbatement LaW to the federal j statutes. It creates the Illinois School Asbestos Abatement Fund 1 I . for the deposit of licensure fees and civil penalties, requires annual licensure by DPH for asbestos related contractors. It ' I 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Would be effective January 1, 1990. Move the adoption of I Amendment No. 1. I l PRESIDENT ROCK: ' Senator Berman's moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to ! Senate Bill 659. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 737. Senator Brookins seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 737, in the middle of Page 20, to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 737, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Brookins.

Senator Brookins.

Xes. Thank you, Mr. President. This amendment deletes everything after tbe enacting clause, and it amends the Human 1 Rights Act pertaining to handicap or -- or -- or -- or family status, based on real estate transaction, requires multiple family buildings designed and constructed after 3-13-91 to meet various accessible standards, expand and modify provisions required in discrimination on the basis of aqe. This amendment, which is the bill, changes the Human Righks Act to reflect changes required by the -- the -- the Federal Fair Housing Act and -- as amended in -- I 1988. The Department of Human Rights strongly supports this amendment because this allows DHR to maintain a substantial equivalent status with -- with HUD and continue to receive funds 17  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 I from HUD. It also is -- khere is no opposition to it; and the I real estate people are in concurrence.

A1l right. Senator Brookins has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 737. Dkscussion? If not: al1 kn favor indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments. PRESIDENT ROCKC 3rd Reading. Top of Page 2l. Senator Severns seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 769 to the Order of 2nd Reading foï purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 769.

Amendment No. l offered by Senator Severns.

Senator Jones: you are effectively blockinq out that whole side of the aisle. I knew you when you Were skânny. Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President. Floor Amendment No. 1 simply adds language to spell -- to spell out What *e -- mean by hazardous substance. It's primarily technical, and I know of no opposition. PRESIDENT ROCKI Senator Severns has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 769. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor indicate by sayin: Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendmentls adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: ! i No further amendments. 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS ! 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 I

I 3rd Reading. Senator Sam. Bottom of Page 21. Senator Vadalabene seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 7-8-7 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. 0n the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bàll 787, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. l offered by Senator Vadalabene.

Senator Vadalabene.

Yes. Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Senate Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 787 deletes everything after the enacting clause to provide a two-dollar increase in title fees to provide funding for the acquisition and development of bike paths in Illinois. The two-dollar increase in title fees Would be deposited in the Parks and Conservation Fund, to be available for grants to local park distriets, forest preserve districts and State parks, for the acguisition and development of the bikes paths throughout Illinois. The amendment represents the initial program, and further language defining the program will be worked out in the House between the Department of Conservation, the Illinois Association of Park Districts, the Illinois Environmental Council and several conservation advocacy programs. And I move for its adoption. PRESIDENT ROCKZ Senator Vadalabene has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 787. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have ik* The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments. 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Leqislative Day May 24# 1989

3rd Reading . Top of Page 23. Senator Netsch seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 867 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 867, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No.1 offered by Senator Netsch.

Senator Netsch.

Thank you, Mr. President. The amendment has to do with -- for a11 practical purposes, the effective date of the bill and the time periods to which it -- applies. It's the partial public financing bill. I would move the adoption of Amendment No. 1, is it? Amendment No. to Senate Bill 867.

Senator Netsch has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senake Bill 867. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Middle of Page 23. Senator Rakca. Okay. Middle of Page 22. Eanator Wakson. 8-8-5. Seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 8-8-5 to the Order of 2nd Readin: for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 8-8-5, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. l offered by Senator Watson. 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24y 1989

Senator Watson.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 1 simply takes out the provisions dealing With community colleges. I move for its adoption.

Senator Watson's moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1 ko SenaEe Bill 8-8-5. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. Tbe Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 918. Senator Barkhausen. Top of Page 24. Senator Barkhausen seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 918 to the Order 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. 0n the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 918, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 1 offered by Senator Barkhausen.

Senator Barkhausen.

Mr. President and Members. This is an agreed amendment dealing with the leasing of cars and preventing the sub-leasing of automobiles without the permission of the lessor; and I ask its adoption.

Senator Barkhausen has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 918. Discussion? If not, all in favor indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's 21  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: ; No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 921. Senator Schaffer seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 92l to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leaze granted? Leave is granted. ôn the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 921.

Amendment No. 1 offered by Senator Schaffer.

Senator Schaffer.

Mr. President and Members of the Senate. There's been a great deal of discussion this year, and in the past, about when We should hold our primary elections. This amendment Would propose to move the primary election dates from March to the third Tuesday in May, beginning with the 1990 primary, and thereafter. I think most of us are convinced that the primaries in March are -- are difficult because of the keather and -- and the filing dates over the holidays and that sort of thing, but some of us aren't quite ready to go all the way to September; but we would like to shorten the length of campaigns, and to bring the primary into good weather. That's the purpose of the amendment.

A11 righk. SenaEor Echaffer has moved the adopkion of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 921. Discussion? Senator Kelly.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. I rise to oppose Senator Schafferîs amendment. I can't see any advantage in moving it to May. If anything: it'd be detrimental, especially to i those who are Members of this General Assembly, because we dre i i 22  ' STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TR&NSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 i having a very busy agenda then, and it'd be very difficult to do some campaigning. I1m for the -- the September primary and I think it's very important that we stay with a September primary. 1 So I solicit your opposition to this amendment.

Further discussion? Senator Demuzio.

Well, thank you, Mr. President. I -- I too rise in opposition to this amendment. Senator Schaffer's moving the general primary ' election to the third Tuesday in May. I don't know hoW welre ever goin: to get through a Legislative Session -- Jack, if you have a primary that's in May, perhaps we ought to move up our adjournment schedule and make it February 28th. But youlre talking about filing in -- in February. It just seems to me that September makes much more sense, and I would rise in opposition to this amendment.

Further discussion? Is there any further discussion? Senator Schaffer: you wish to close?

ïes. Thank you, Mr. President. Well, I hate to debate the bill, if you will, on 2nd Reading, but perhaps I -- I need to. I would suggest that the problems have been -- outlined can be overcome: we already have a very limited Session in the election years: and I Would suqqest to you that we could -- we could handle the non-appropriation and revenue bills prior to the primaryg adjourn for an appropriate period prior to the primary, start earlier in the year: adjourn for a month, or whatever it takes and then come back after the primary and -- and Work on appropriations and revenue matters. It might, in fact, create a more deliberative situation than perhaps we enjoy at this very moment. I think that the date of the primary is something that should be 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989 fully debated. We have the September primary on the Calendar and I'd just like to get the March or the May primary on the Calendar for considera*ion for those people Who are, in fact, lookin: for alternatives, and I1d appreciate a favorable roll call.

Senator -- Senator Schaffer has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 921. Those in favor of the amendment will vote Aye. Opposed kill vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have all voted Who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted kho wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 30 Ayes, 28 Nays, none voting Present. The amendment is adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 923. Senator Jacobs seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bil1 923 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 923, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. -- No. 1 offered by Senator Jacobs.

Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACOBSJ Thank you: Mr. President. 80th 923 and 928 will -- that which will follow the amendment, is part of an ongoing negotiations with CUB. They have agreed to try to allow us to get us out of herer and get it over to the House, and I ask for its approval.

Senator Jacobs has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 923. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's 24  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Leqislative Day May 24# 1989 adopted . Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Middle of Page 24. Senator Berman seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 924 to the Qrder of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 924, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Berman.

Senator Berman.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 2 substantially restate: the original bill, but one important change is the addition of a notice requirement under the terms of a will that was exeeuted before September 1, 1955, and deals with adoptive children. This requires that al1 of the children involved would be given adequate notice. I move the adoption of Amendment No.

All right. Senator Berman hao moved the adoption of Amendaent No. 2 to Senate Bill 924. Discussion? Tf not, al1 in favor indieate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Middle of Page 24, Senator Jacobs seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 9-2-8, 928, Madam Secretary, to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd 25  i STATE OF ILLINOIS ! 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Readin: is Senate Bill 928, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. l offered by Senator Jacobs.

Senator Jacobs.

Thank yous Mr. Chairnanw Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. As I indicated in 923, this is part of ongoing negotiations with CUB. It removes a couple provisions that we had put on them in the regular bill, and they're pretty much in sync on this, but they still want to work on it a lkttle more.

Senator Jacobs has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 928. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Top of Page 25. Senator Fawell seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 966 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 966, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator DeAngelis.

Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you, Mr. President. This was the amendment that yesterday was declared to be non-qermane on a different billr and now is on a more appropriate vehiclee and basically what it's 26  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 designed to do is to resolve a dispute about the tax exemption on a not-for-profit property, which for a long time has been tax exempt; and it's got the conditions in there that it's got to be for public access. A11 the proceeds have to be used for charikable purposese et cetera. There is no revenue loss, 'cause they have not been taxed previously. So I urge the adoption by this Body.

Senator DeAngelis has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 966. Discussion? Senator Netsch.

You see, Senator DeAngelis, when a tax exemption goes on a revenue bill, it's perfectly fine. I'm not going to oppose your amendment now .

Senator DeAngelis has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 966. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Top of Page 25. Senator Netsch seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 97l to the Order of 2nd Readinq for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 971, Madam secretary.

Amendment No . 2 offered by Senator Netsch.

Senator Netsch.

I think first of a11 I need to Table No. 1; I think it's  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legkslatkve Day May 24, 1989 incorrect. So, having voted on the prevailing side, I Would move to reconsider the vote by Which Amendment No. l was adopted, and I would then move to Table Amendment No.

A11 right. Senator Netschz having voted on the prevailing side, is moving to reconsider the vote by khich Amendment No. was adopted, for the purpose of Tabling. A11 in favor of the Motion to Reconsider indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The vote's reconsidered. Senator Netsch now moves to Table Amendment No. to Senate Bill 971. Al1 in favor of the Motion to Table indicate by sayinq Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendmentîs -- is Tabled. Further amendments, Madam Secretary?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Netsch.

Senator Netsch.

Thank you, Mr. President. This is the truth in taxation bill. The amendment does two major substantive things; one is it reinserts the -- that election costs are an exclusion to the maximum rate Which triggers the truth in taxation mechanism. Election costs are something that a local government cannok do anything about. That is, it's a mandated responsibility, and we did not intend to include it in their discretionary funding. The second thinq that it does, at the requesE of some of Ehe local governments, is to make it clear that where a unit of local government has exceeded tbe cap for truth in taxation, that it is not precluded from continuing to levy the kax that is lawful and nok involved in the truth in taxation procedure. It is only the excess that it will not be permitted to continue with. I would, therefore, move the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislakive Day May 24# 1989 971.

Senator Netsch has moved the adoptkon of Amendment No . 2 to Senate Bill 79l -- 971. Discussion? If not, all in favor indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments. PRESIDENT ROCX2 3rd Readinq. Top of Page 25. Senator Weaver seeks leave of the Body to return Senate 3ill 983 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 983, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. l offered by Senator Weaver.

Senator Weaver.

Thank you, Mr. President. This is a technical amendment from the Illinois Development Finance Authority and their bond council. If anybody has any questions, 1'11 be happy to try to answer them.

Senator Weaver's moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 983. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment'g adopted. Eurkher amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Middle of Page 25. Senator Madigan seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 1008 to the Order of 2nd Readin: 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1008, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKERI Amendment No. 1 offered by Senator Madigan.

Senator Madigan.

Thank you, Mr. President. Senate Amendment l extends the filing time deadline for an application for funeral and burial expenses from five days to thirty days. Also increases by five percent the Public Aid reimbursement for funeral services and burial services. I would ask for its adoption.

Senator Madigan's moved the adoption of Kmendment No. to Senate Bill 1008. Discussion? If not, all in favor indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Purther amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Bottom of Page 25. Senator Topinka seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 1010 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On *he Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill l0l0e Madam secretary.

Amendment No. l offered by Senator Topinka.

Senator Topinka.

Yes. Mr. Preskdent, excuse mez and Ladies and Gentlemen of 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24e 1989 the Senate. Amendment No. 1, pardon me, basically would allow public health departments, excuse me# let me read this. Requires that in order to receive supplemental funds from the Department of Public Aid for the general assistance program a county board shall submit to the Department the amount of general assistance it provided in the previous month, rather than the amount estimates necessary in the next month. It permits the use of appropriations from the Immigration Reform and Control Fund for payments in any fiscal year, subject to approval by the Department of Aid. No stated effective date.

Discussion? If notz Senator Topinka's moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 1010. A1l in favor indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Senator Rigney, on the top of Page 26, seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 1035 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of Tabling an amendment. Senator Rigney. Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bklls 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1035. Senator Rigney.

Mr. President, there's been a change in plans. I do not want to recall this bill. I have a parliamentary question for you. Since it is not amendedz does maintain its place in the rotation on 3rd Reading?

That is correct.

Thank you. 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSTON SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989

I'm sorry. Take it out of the record, Madam Secretary. 1199. Senator Rea seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 1199 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendmenk. Is leave granted? Leave is granked. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senake Bill 1199, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. l offered by Senator Rea.

Senator Rea.

Thank you, Mr. President. This amendment deletes the AIDS testing requirement. Instead, When a person is released on parole, mandatory supervised release, final discharqe, or pardon the Department of Corrections shall inform the individual concerning programs and services of the Department of Public Hea1th to determine whether the individual has been exposed to AIDS. This amendment is a recommendation of the Department of Conservation -- Corrections, I -- sorry.

Senator Rea's moved the adoption of -- Senator Rea's moved the adoption of Amendmen: No. l to Senate Bill 1199. Discussion? If not, all in favor indieate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Readinq. Middle of Page 29, Senator Severns seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 1223 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1223, Madam SecreEary. 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. l offered by Senator Severns. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Severns. SENATOR SEVERNS: Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Floor Amendment No. 1 tightens the I Bonds, it strengthens the language on risk of flight: and also addresses the post-conviction detention on appeal, and it's simply a matter to try to tighten it ' up. 1'11 be glad to answer any questions. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Severns has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1223. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor indicate by saying Aye. I'm sorry, Senator Barkhausen. SENATOR BARKHAUSEN: Thank you. I had my light on. Senator Severns, your amendment may very well be okay With a11 of usy but does run sone twenty-three pages. Our staff has first seen it is just a few moments ago and I don't believe it's been distributed. Could I ask that we hold this for a day to give our staff a chance to digest it and have it on the Recall List tomorrow? PRESIDENT ROCK: Well I think the better procedure is wedll adopt it and then you can take a look at it. Will not be called for passage today. SENATOR BARKHAUSEN: Mr. President, in that case, 1911 ask to be joined by five colleagues, and ask that this be held until the amendment has been distributed. PRESIDENT ROCK: I don't see five. All right. Let's :et copies of the amendment dkstributed. ..wlmachine cutoffl... Senator Vadalabene: 33  SQATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 for what purpose do you rise?

Yes. Thank you, Mr. President and Members. While there's a short lul1 here in the proceedings, I've just received the first prineing of ehe Memorial Day speeches, and you can come to my desk and they're goin: like hotcakes.

Get them while theyfre hot. I understand. ...tmachine cutoffl... Ladles and Gentlemen, while we're awaiting Senator Barkhausen's copy of the amendment, We have a special guest and the Chair will yield to Senator Marovitz.

Thank you very much, President Rock, and Members of the Senate. It's Ry privileqe today to introduce a young man that tragically came in the news one year ago. Philip Andrew is here from Winnetka, Illinois. He was the victim shot in the Lori Dann incident kn Winnetka, Illinoisz one year ago. Ee's currently a senior at the University Of Illinois, Champaign-Drbana Campus and is captain of the Illinois Swimming Teamz and I'd like to present Philip Andrew here to all of you.

Thank you, President Rock, and Members of the Illinois Senatee for the opportunity Eo speak to you about my experience a year ago this May. learned, first hand, the destructiveness of a handgun in the kron: hands; when a deranged Lori Dann shot me in the chest in the kitchen of my own home after shootinq six children ak a nearby grade school. Senators, I'm hopin: to avert another such tragedy. We noW have the opportunity to change the existing laws in Illinois. I recently had the opportunity to meet Jim Brady when he came on campus at U of r. He's also a U of I alumni, and also, a victim of handgun violence. His amazing recovery has been an inspiration to me in my return to competitive swimming after 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Leçislative Day May 24, 1989 suffering a gunshot wound to the chest that just missed my heart by millimeters. I hope, as a result of both of our experiences our -- that we might strengthen Illinoisl laws to prevent the Lori Danns and the John Hinckleys in the world from obtaining handguns in our State. Thank you very much.

All right. Ladies and Gentlemen, the hour of noon having arrived, the Senate will please come to order, as We have annually, for our Memorial Day Program. I1m going to ask the Members to please be in their seats and ask the Members of the staff to please be seated. I ask Ehe doorkeepers to please guard the doors. Ladies and Gentlemen, the Chair will yield to Senator Sam Vadalabene, who is our Memorial Day Program Chairman. Senator.

Thank you very much, President Rock. Welcome to the Senate Annual Memorial Day Program and we will begin with the introduction of our special guests: Brigadier General Donald W. Lynn, Assistant Adjutant General, Army, representing Major General Harold Holesinger, the Illinois Adjutant General Major General Harold R. Patton, Brigadier General Richard E. Northern, Colonel Thomas W. Napolitan, Captain James A. Umbergerr Captain James F. Hampton, Captain Adolf E. Fullgrabe, Captain William D. Forsythz Jr., Anthony Martino, Ferdinand Bronzell, Thomas M. Joycee Tony Pechenino, Denise Labatt, Lillian Rovner, Anne Manniong Joseph W. Mannion, Howie CriEtendon, Howard Wilkowski, Edward Jarnell, Donald E. Lee, Rear Admiral Arthur C. Beachp Jules Corbert Corbett. Would everyone please stand. We will now have the presentation of the Colors of the Color Guard, 114th Regiment of the Illinois Volunteer Infantry. Hand salute. NoW have the Pledge of Allegiance by Senakor Dudycz. (Senator Dudycz leads the Pledge of Allegiance) 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SEHATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Leqislative Day May 24y 1989 !

The American Creed please, recited by Senator Ray Hudson.

Would you join me please. (Senator Hudson reads t 'The American Creed'f)

The Preamble to the United Statesz by Senator OlDaniel.

(Senator OlDaniel reads the npreambled')

We Will now have the opening prayer by Senator Hall.

(Prayer given by Senator Hall)

Everyone please be seated. We will now have a reading of General John A . Logan's Order for the First Memorial Day. Senator Bob Madigan.

(Senator Madigan reads General John A. Logan's Order for the First Memorial Day)

''The Battle Hymn of the Republic'' Will be presented by bugler ! John Headrick and drummer Joseph Richiusa. (John Headrick and Joseph Richiusa play HThe Battle Hymn of the Republicp ')

''In Flanders Field'' will be recited by Senator Margaret Smith.

The best known poem of World War 1, perhaps *he most loved war lyrîc of th: twentieth century, was written by an obscure Canadian, who is almost forgotten today. It was John Mccraez a I I soldier, physician and medical author who penned ''In Flanders 36  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Fieldz'' a poem as permanently associated with the great war as the poppy ïs With the Amerkcan Veterans. His story is a tribute to him, to his nation, and to the ideals for which he died. This is his poem, published in ''punch'' December 8, 1915. (Senator Smith reads 'In Flanders Fieldl')

''When Johnny Comes Marching Home,'' a musical rendition by bugler John Headrick and drummer Joseph Richiusa. (John Headrick and Joseph Richiusa play 'lWhen Johnny Comes Marching Home'')

The introduction of our quest speaker will be given by Senator Bob Kustra . Senator Kustra.

Rear Admiral Arthur C. Beach was born in Chicago, Illinois, Pebruary 25, 1923, and began his military career in khe ROTC at Tilden Tech High School, Chicaqo. He reached the rank of Regimental Commander and enlisted in the Navy in 1941, graduating from boot camp at Great Lakes and Was shipped to Pearl Harbor. While he was there, the Second World War broke out. He applied for 0CS and Was accepted and received a commission as an ensign at Northwestern University. From 1942 to 1945 he had many assignments, including service wiEh the Pirst Marine Division on Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima and Okinawa, as landing craft officer. He was aboard the U.S.S. Nashville and aboard the U.S.S. Missouriy at the time of the surrender that ended World War II. Between the Second World War and the Korean War, he served as :unnery instructor at Pearl Harbor and on the Mainland. He Was again landing boat officer in the Korean War. After the Korean War, he was assigned to many ships and land bases. He has held the positions of Executive and Commanding Officer. His last command was in Viet Nam, where he commanded search and rescue missions. 37  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th CENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989 His command was credited with rescuin: many downed pilots and ' detached kroups. Admiral Beach has earned a Master's Degree in i Business Administration from Georgetown University and a deqree in I language from U. C.L.A. National War College, Surface Warfare I School. Among Admiral Beach 's many service awards is the Navy Cross, Distinguished Service, Silver Star, Navy Medal, Bronze Star, Purple Heart - three times, Meritorious Service, Navy Commendation, American Defense, American Campaign Victory Medal, Philippine Liberation, National Defense, Korean Service Medal, United Nations Medal, Combat Action with V for Valor three times, Viet Nam Gallantry Cross. He is married to the former Charlotte Isbrurcker of Baltimoree Maryland. They have three sonsr and one daughter and seven grandchildren. They reside in Park Ridgee Illinois. Admiral Beach is a cousin of the famous Naval author and Retired Naval Submariner, Captain Edward L. Beach. Admiral Beach retired from active service in 1975, afeer ehlrty-four years of service to his country. Admiral Beach, it is a distinct honor: for those of us in the Illinois Senate, to have you join us today for this very special proqram. We look forward to your remarks.

(Remarks made by Rear Admiral Arthur C. Beach) END OF TAPE TAPE 2 (Remarks made by Rear Admiral Arthur C. Beach - continued)

Thank youy Admiral Beach, Eor your outstanding remarks and the beautiful poem that you recited to us this morning. Would everyone now please stand. Senator Earlean Collins will lead us 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th CENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 into ''God Bless America.'' Will everyone sing along with Earlean? Earlean. (Senator Collins sings f 'God Bless Americad')

Very good. We will now have the closing prayerr by Senator Joyce Holmberg. (Prayer given by Senator Holmberg)

Everyone now join in singing 'Eternal Fatherz Strong to Save,' 1ed by Senator Adeline Ceo-Karis.

Would you all please join me. (Senator Geo-Karis sings 'IEternal Father, Strong to Save'')

We will noW have ''Taps,'' by bugler John Headrick and drummer Joseph Richiusa. (John Headrick and Joseph Richiusa play ''Taps'')

The 114th Infantry Regiment of the Illinois Volunteer Infantry; Retire the Colors. We are eternally grateful to our honored guests here this morning and, of course, to Admiral Beach for his outstanding remarks. Again, we want to thank our former colleague, Senator Mitchlerz for putting this program together. Thank you, and God bless you.

All right. Madam Secretary, with leave of the Body, wefll go back to Senate Bill 146. Then wedll continue from where we left off. Chair has been informed that there has been a clerical error wikh respect to Senate Bill 146. WiEh leave of the Body, Senator Hawkinson seeks leave to return Senate Bill 146 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of Tabling an amendment. Is leave 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24p 1989 granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readinq is Senate Bill 146. Senator Hawkinson.

Thank you, Mr. President. I appreciate your returning to this bill. Earlier on this call, We adopted Senate Amendment 2 which resolved the problems. However, having voted on the prevailing side in adopting Senate Amendment No. would move to reconsider the vote by Which Senate Amendment l Was affirmed.

All right. Senator Hawkinson has moved to reconsider the vote by which Senate Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill l46 was adopted. Al1 in favor of the Motion to Reeonsider, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The vote's reconsidered. Senator Hawkinson now moves to Table Senate Amendment No. to Senate Bill 146. All in favor of the Motion to Tabler indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. l is Tabled. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. On the order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 333. Senator del Valle seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 333 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave ls granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 333, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 1 offered by Senator de1 Valle.

Senator del Valle.

Thank you, Mr. President. Senate Bill 333 requires the State Board of Education to issue a substitute certificate to any 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 r 1 applicant who has failed to qualify for a transitional bilingual ! certificate, but meets the substitute qualifications. It also requires the State Board of Educakion to inform the applicant of the addftkonal qualkfications needed to become certified as a transitional bilingual substitute keacher. This amendment was worked out with the State Board of Education. I move for its adoption.

All riqht. Senator de1 Valle has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 333. Discussion? If not, all in favor indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading . On the same Order is Senate Bill 499. Senator de1 Valle seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granEed. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 499: Madam Secretary. 4-9-9.

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator de1 Valle.

Senator de1 Valle.

Thank you, Mr. President. This amendment indicates that notices shall indicate Whether a position is a union onez and it makes minor technical changes concerning trainee positions. I move for its adoption.

Al1 right. Senator de1 Valle has moved the adoption of I Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 499. Discusslon? If not, a11 in 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 favor indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. WAND-TV has requested permission to shoot some videotape. Without objection, leave is qranted. Senator Colliny, for what purpose do your arise?

Point of personal privilege.

State your point, please.

Yes. Mr. President and Members of the Senate, we have with us today, on this side, in the gallery, a group of young people àrom Chicago -- from Lawndale, who are down here today promoting and lobbyinq on getting more support for drug and alcohol abuse treatment and prevention programs. And with that group We have Mr. Murphy, who is the Director of Garfield Counseling Center, and a very unique group up there from the West side. It's called the Phoenix Group, and I think this is very importanty because this is a group of ex-users who are now in counseling programs and organized, and in the business of working wieh young people and other community groups getting them involved in drug prevention type programs. And it's this kind of organization and self-motivation ehose persons who come Ehrough the Garfield Programs, afEer they have received kreatments, go out and help someone else with. So I think that a1l of us ought to welcome this group with open arms. The -- the Director of the Phoenix Group is Mr. Paolos -- Pullen and there is also anokher group : it's called Substance Abuse Aleohol and Treatment Programsg and the Director of that program is Mr. Herman O 'Nei1; and I would 42  1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legkslative Day May 24, 1989 just like for them to al1 skand and be recognized by the...

Will our guests please stand and be recognized. Welcome to Springfield. And we all know that the West side is the best side. Al1 right. On the Order of Recalls, We're back to Senate Bill 890. Senator del Valle seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 890, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator del Valle.

Senator de1 Valle.

Thank you, Mr. President. This amendment was worked out With khe Department of Public Aid and it clarifies the intent of the bill. I move for its adoption.

Senator de1 Valle has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 890. Discussion? If noty al1 in favor indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Madam Secrekary: inadvertently skipped Senate Bill 5. With leave of the Body, Senator de1 Valle seeks leave to rekurn Senate Bill 5 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 5, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator de1 Valle. 43  STATE DP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989

Senator del Valle.

Thank you, Mr. President. Qhis amendment does become the bill. It states that no person engaged kn tbe business of sale or rental of videocassettes for profit shall sell, lease, offer to sell or lease, or attempt to sell or lease, videocassettes with an official rating of ''X'' ko a person under the a:e of l8, and also requires a parental permission for *he sale or diskribution of videocassettes rated ''R'' I move for its adoption.

Senator del Valle has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 5. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor indicate by sayin: Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment': adopted. Purther amendments?

No further amendments.

1263. Senator Marovitz seeks leave of the Body to return 1263 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is qranted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1263, Madam Secretary.

Floor Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Marovitz.

Senator Marovitz.

Thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bil1 1263 excludes telecommunications service from the limitations imposed on the monthly customer charges and adds certain operatinq and maintenance costs to the allowable expense ln computing the monthly charges. And directs 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Leqislative Day May 24r 1989 the ICC to consider the impact on nonresidential customers When implementinq adjustments in monthly rate charges. It was a request of the utility companies. I would ask for its adoption.

Senator Marovitz has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 1283. Discussion? 1263, I'm sorry. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Bottom of Page 29. Senator Berman seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 1288 to the Order of 2nd Readin: for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1288. Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Berman.

Senator Berman.

Thank you, Mr. President. The bill deals With the penalties that can be imposed by the Department of Insurance for unfair claims practices. The amendment has been worked out with the Department. What it does is, set forth the requirements for suspension up to six months, fines not to exceed two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and requires rules to be promulgated for the imposition of these penalties. Move the adoption of Amendment No. 2.

Senator Berman has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 1288. Discussion? Senator Schuneman. 45 i 86S tT hAT GEN0 EF RAL ILL AI SN SO EM IS B. LY REGUSAR sEssloN SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 SENATOR SCHUNEMAN: Thank you, Mr. President. I'm reliably informed that all parkies are on board on this issue now, so we stand in support. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Berman 's moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senake Bill 1288. Discussion? If notg all in favor indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER : No further amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: 3rd Reading. Senator Demuzio seeks leave of the body to return Senate Bill 1301 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bi11 1301. Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Demuzio. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Demuzio. SENATOR DEMUZIO: Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is part of our health package. What this amendment does, it corrects a -- a error with respect to the definition, it refers to community health centers that should have been in the bill; and it also sets up the final form for the funding formula for Ehe percentages for Ehe proqrams thaE would be established by this fundin: bill. That's all it does, and I would ask for its approval. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Demuzio's moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 1301. Discussion? If not, all in favor indicate by saying Kye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's 46 i i  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLT REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Same page. Senator Rea seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 1303 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1303. Senator -- Madam Secretary.

Amendment No . l offered by Senator Rea.

Senator Rea.

Thank you, Mr. President. The amendment addresses a concern that the Department of Public Health has with Senate Bi11 1303. The Department believes that the incentives to bring physicians into medically underserved areas and -- are koo low ; and to encourage participation, this amendment raises the incentives to a minimum of fifty percent of the physician's malpractice premium. would move for its adoption.

Senator Rea has moved the adopEion of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 1303. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Top of Page 30. Senator Rea seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 1304 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted . 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS I 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 On khe Ozder of Senate Bills 2nd Readkng ks Senate Bill 1304. Madam Secretary.

Amendment No . offered by Senator Rea.

Senator Rea.

Thank you, Mr. President. The department also listed objections to Senate Bill 1304. The link and scope of the nurses incentive program. This anendment tightens eligibility standards and gives the Department latitude to implement the program. would move for adoption.

Senator Rea has moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 1304. Discussion? If not, all in favor indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendmentgs adopted. Purther amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Middle of Page 30. Senator Dunn. Senator Dunn seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading of purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1310, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Thomas Dunn.

Senator Dunn.

Thank you, Mr. President. This amendment represents an agreement between B0B and the Beer Distributors, and will leave a 48  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 minimum of five million into the Dram Shop Fund. I urge adoption.

Senator Dunn has moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 1310. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Bottom of Paqe 30. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading. Senator de1 Valle seeks leave to return 1342 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1342, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator de1 Valle.

Senator del Valle.

Thank you, Mr. President. Having voted on the prevailing side, I move to reconsider the vote by which Committee Amendment No. l was adopted.

All right. Senator de1 Valle, having voted on the prevailing side, is moving to reconsider the vote by which Amendnent No. l to Genate Bill 1342 was adopted. A11 in favor of the MoEion to Reconsider indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The vote's reconsidered. Senator de1 Valle noW moves to Table Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 1342. A11 in favor of the Motion to Table indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 1 is Tabled. Purther amendments, Madam Secretary? 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senakor del Valle.

Senator de1 Valle.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. permits a sequestered juror to vote absentee, and requires absenEee ballots -- applications to be available for public inspection from time of receipt until thirty days following an election. It makes it a Class 4 felony to intimidate or influence a person when voting an absentee ballot. It makes it a Class 3 felony to knowingly give false information when requesting an absentee ballot. This is an attempt to deal with increasing abuses with absentee ballots. move its adoption.

Senator de1 Valle has moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 1342. Discussion? Senator Dudycz.

Thank you, Mr. President. Senator de1 Valle 's made a bad bill into a good bill and we support -- support it as amended.

Senator de1 Valle has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 1342. Further discussion? If not, all in favor indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Madam Secretary, on the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 1223. Senator Severns has sought, and is qoinq to obtain leave, to bring that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. On the Order of Senate 50  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th REGE UN LE ARAL SEA SSS IE OM NBLY j SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24p 1989 Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1223, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. l offered by Senator Severns.

Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Floor Amendment No. l simply becomes the bill, trying to tighten up# as I described earlier, the I-Bonds. But also requiring, rather that permitting. The courts require the deposit of a hundred percent, rather that ten percent of bonds for serious drug offenses. It deals with -- with risk of flight, post-conviction detention and other measures trying to tighten up the bail bill.

All right. Senator Severns has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1223. Discussion? Senator Barkhausen.

Mr. President, will the sponsor yield?

Indicates she Will yield.

Senator, of course we had a conversation during a lu11 a While ago and just wanted to establish -- your intent to come back to this on another Recall List to address the flaws that we feel exisk in Ehis amendment. PRESIDENT ROCE) Senator Severns.

Given khe opportuniky of another recall list, absolutely. Otherwise we'll work with you and others and -- on an amendment elsewhere. 51  STATE 0F TLLINOTS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

Senator Barkbausen.

Yes. Mr. President. I'm not going to seek a roll call on this, but if I just could very quickly point out a couple of things. 0ne is that our staff has serious questions about the eonstiEutionality of one whole section of this amendment. Seemingly permitting a denial of bail in situations not permitted by the literal language of the constitutional amendment that was approved in 1986. In addition, on -- on Paqe the amendment would seem to make it more dkfficult to establksh a monetary bakl and -- and require the proof of three separate factors, rather khat only one of three factors. And for those reasonsp we do have some serious misgivings, and would ask the sponsor to put this on a subsequent Recall List.

A1l right. Senator Severns has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Sill 1223. F/rther discussion? If note a11 in favor indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments.

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 1442. Middle of Page 32. Senator Newhouse Eeeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave ls granted . On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readingg Madam Secretary, is Senate Bill 14 -- 1-4-4-2. Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. l offered by Senator Newhouse.

Senator Newhouse. 52  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENAQE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

Thank you, Mr. President. Senate Bill 1442 requirede in its original state, that fifty percent of the new hirees for that -- for the State akds for the Human Rights Agency, would be minorities: until such time as the agency met its affirmative action goals. There was some objection to this. We changed it in accordance With that objection to require only that the highest possible percentage be reached, and I move an adoption of this amendment.

All right. Senator Newhouse has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1442. Is there any discussion? If not, all in favor indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments.

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. WCIA-TV has also requested permission to videotape. Without objection, leave is grantedoo.lmachine cutoffl... Ladies and Gentlemen, I understand that there has been, agakn, another clerical error wkth respect to Senate Bill 890. With leave of the Body, Senator del Valle seeks leave to return Senate Bill 890 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of Tabling an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Madam Secretary, is Senate Bill 890. Senator de1 Valle.

President, I move to Table Committee Amendment No. PRESIDENT ROCK) A11 right. Senator del Valle, havin: voted on the prevailing side, is movinq to reconsider the vote by which Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 890 Was adopted. A1l in favor of the Motion to 53  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Reconsider, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have The vote's reconsidered. Senator de1 Valle now moves Eo Qable Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 890. A11 in favor of the Motion to Table lndicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have kt. Amendment No. l ks Tabled. Are there further amendments?

No further amendments.

w.. lmachine cutoffl... 3rd Reading. Senator Smith, for what purpose do you arise?

Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senake. I stand on -- for a point of personal privilege. We are proud to have in Springfield With us today a group called Brass Poundation; and they are also lobbying here today in regards to drug abusey and they are Workers on the south side of the City of Chicago. Not only the west side, but we have the south side here today: and I1d like to present them to this august Body.

Will our guests please rise and be recognized by the Senate. Welcome to Springfield. All right. Ladies and Gentlemen, if I can direct your attention to Page 2 of the Calendar. We will begin on the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, including the appropriakion bills, and go right through the list. And I Would just advise khose who are not aware, khat Friday is the deadline. Top of Page 2. 0n the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill Senator Jones. Senate Bill l2. Senator Carroll . Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill l2. tsecretary reads title of the bi11) 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendmenks.

Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

3rd Reading. 19. Senator Watson. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 19. Read the bill.

Senate Bill 19. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Readinq of khe bill. No committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

3rd Reading. Senate Bill Senator Demuzio. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 3rd Reading -- I mean, Senate Bill 37. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 37. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropria*ions I offers Committee Amendment No.

Senator Carzoll, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. With leave of the Body, I Would move to Table Committee Amendment 1 -- No. 1. Senator Demuzio has a corrective amendmentg believe, filed to follow. 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSRMRLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Leqislative Day May 24, 1989

All right. Senator Carroll has moved to Table Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 37. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor of the Motion to Table indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. l is Tabled. Further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Demuzio offers Amendment No. 2.

Senator Demuzio, on Amendnent No. 2.

Well, thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. What Amendment No. 2 attempts to do, is to add back those -- about four hundred and forty thousand dollars of audit money, a lump sum appropriation, for audit studies in investiqation to the Audikor General. And also, leaves in the other reductions of of ten thousand dollars to remodel the office, it takes that out. Merit Comp - reduees it to 3.5, and a1l the rest of the Democratic proposals. So a1l it's doing, is adding back in money for additional audits.

A11 right. Senator Demuzio's moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 37. Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I do not have a copy of that amendment in front or mez or at least not readily available. I've qot a bunch of amendments and IIm sure Senator. that somewhere itfs in here, but I just can't put my hands on it immediately; so I just Want to make sure that what we 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 are doing here. The first part of the amendment you are adding back some money into that budget. As I understand it, that is an unneccessary step -- because of the Tabling of the first amendment, that money is already in there.

Senator Carroll.

I recognize the confusion, Senator Etheredge, if I may join in to try and clarify the situation. What Senator Demuzio's amendment didz rather that go through a two-stepper, the Auditor General had requested a portion of What we in committee had reduced in the outside audit line, because of additional audits requested by the General Assembly, which made it different from two years ago. We, as you remember in committee early, when we were a1l there, had said ''bring them down to the two year a:o cycle,'' so that the axendment Demuzko has offered, that is before usz has the reductions that we had in committeez except for the audit line. That reduction in the audit line would be approximately a four-hundred-thousand reduction, as opposed to an eiqht-hundred-and-ninety-thousand reduction. He explained it as if an add back, but since it had a11 the other component parts, we decided for paper flow, it was better just to go with that one. It would have all the other reductions in it. Merit compg productivity improvement, et cetera, et cetera; and ehen a four hundred thousand dollar, roughly, reduction in the audit line.

Senator Etheredge.

Thank you very much for that explanation Senator -- and I -- my second question was going to be directed to your last remarks. This amendment does include a -- an across-the-board reduction in *he personnel line of one percent, which your are referring to as 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 a productivity increase; and there is also a reduction in -- in here for the -- for merit comp salary inereases. Is that correct?

Senator Carroll.

He -- it's my understanding that the Auditor General does not have the merit comp system: so We bring them to the level that the State employees negotiated: and have the one percent productivity.

Further discussion? Senator Etheredge.

The -- is -- you are allowing for a three-and-a-half-percent salary increase?

Senator Carroll.

Four percent.

Senator Etheredqe.

I'm sorry -- did -- was that three -- did you say yes to three -- oh no, four percent. Four percent. Does it make any then that would be# as I understand it then, the equivalent of what is given in the AFSCME contract: except that it makes no provision, Whatsoever, for the step increases which the -- the union employees will receive. Is that correct?

Senator Carroll.

The union agreement Was three and a half, this is four. So that it does, in effect, take that into account, we believe.

58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24g 1989 Further discussion? Senator Ekheredge.

Well: -- khat is not coincide with our evaluation of this budget and' for that reason, I rise in -- for that reason, and also, because it includes this across-the-board produckivity increase, ubich also will bave a dkreet impact on the abiliky to to give the salary increases to non-union people. I stand in opposition to this amendment.

All right. Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. Ackerman from the Illinois State Medical Society is in the gallery Wishing to take some photographs. IIm sure of Senator Dehngelis and Senator Topinka, not the rest of us. Without objection, leave is granted. Al1 right. Senator Demuzio has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 837. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay. The voting's open. Have al1 voted Who Wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted Who wish? Take the record. On that question, theze are 30 Ayes, 28 Nays, none voting Present. Amendment No. 2 is adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Carroll.

Senator Carroll, on Amendment No. 3.

I would withdraw a11 those further amendments, ehey 're unnecessaryo..tmachine cukoffl...

Further amendmentse Madam Secretary?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator -- Etheredge.

Senator Etheredge. 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legkslative Day May 24, 1989

Mr. President, I would ask that that amendment be withdrawn.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Al1 riqht. Senator -- Etheredge asks that Amendment No. to Senate Bill 37 be withdrawn. That amendment Will be -- withdrawn. Any further Eloor amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 53. Senator Savickas. Read the bill, please, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKER; Senate Bi1l 53. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Floor amendments?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LDFT) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 69. Senator D'Arco. On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 7l. Senator O 'Daniel. Read the bill, pleasey Madam Secretary.

senate Bill 7l. (secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Readinq of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Floor amendments?

No Floor amendments. 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 96. Senator Jones. Senator Jones. Senate Bill 96. Out of the record. Senate Bill 97. Senator Jones. Out of the record. Senate Bi1l 128. Senator Jones. Out of the record. 160, we91l skip over. On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 163. Senator Demuzio. Is Senator Demuzio on the Floor? Read the bill, please, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 163. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Floor amendments?

Senator Carroll offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll.

Thank you: Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Floor Amendment No. l would reduce the pay raise of seven percent to the -- to that level provided to al1 other employees of State government. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Discussion? If not, Senator Carroll moves for *he adoption -- I'm sorry. Senator Etheredge.

Well, would the Senator yield, please?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) He indicates hedll yield.

What is the reduction, may I ask Senator, that in the budget 61  STATE QF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 -- that this amendment would produce?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Carroll.

Four hundred and nineteen thousand three hundred dollars. And let me just make a general statement, if I may. Senator Etheredge, as you know, it has been our effort to attempt to trim operations of State government -- in an area to produce sufficient funds for the needs of this State in areas of education, mental health, children and family services, the war on drugsz abuse and neglect of children and all the other social programs that have to be adequately funded; While not allowing operations to qrow twelve percent ak a time when we have not found sufficient funds to let any growth in most of those areas. Operations of State governmenk would rise by two hundred and thirty-eight million dollars if, in fact, we do nothing. One thousand seven hundred eighty-one new employees Would be hired if, in fact, we do nothing. Equipment would grow, in some cases, by fifty percent at a time when we think about a mlllion dollars a week -- to spend a million dollars a week a million dollars a week ko spend on equipment appears to be enough. So these, and the following amendments, are an effort to keep in line State spending, keep the growth of government down to tolerable limits and provide those necessary dollars for education, for the mental health needs of this State: for the war on drugs and other such programs. This Would reduce four hundred and nineteen thousand three hundred dollars.

PRESIDING OFFICZR: (SENATOR LUPT) Further discussion? Senator Etheredqe. SENATOR ETHEREDGE; Senator, does this reduction address, in any way, the monies allocated for public radio and television? Because there's a very significant increase -- for those activities included in -- in 62  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989 this budget.

PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll.

Senator Etheredge there are alot of things that this amendment does not address, that happens to be one of them. This merely addresses the issue of excessive pay raises as We had identified khem. And it's the personal services line to which we are dealing is this amendment. The issue you raise in an independent issue that can be dealt wlth in other amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Further discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Well, then I rise in opposition to this amendment. Then I would ask all of those to oppose this amendment and I kill be offering an amendment which kould result in a total reduetion of l.9 million dollars. My amendment will do, in essence, what Senator Carroll proposes to do ln the personnel line itemsg but also Will hold the expenditures for a public radio and televisione next year, at the present year's level, Which is three and one half million dollars. In other words, my amendment would do the things that you propose to do, plus another million-and-a-half reduction.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Further discussion? Senator Carroll, to close.

Well, thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I think that's a very convoluked reasoning, Senator Etheredge. Each amendment can be dealt with separately, and should be. There's an issue of salaries. There are îssues of equipment. There are issues of productivity. There are lssues of vacancies. There are issues of qrants. I believe each of them 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 stand or fall by their own weight. If you believe there should be exeessive pay raises in any area of government, that's fine . If you believe they should be trimmed back to reasonable levels, you will support this amendment. If you want an amendment to deal with the area of grants to public radio and television the process is simple; that amendment is easily drafted and should, and couldr be dealt with separate and distinct. Here, we are dealing with what we feel, in an office -- happens to be held currently by a Democratic elected offickal -- but We still feel that the amaunts provided for pay raises are excessive for this time, and at this tine. And I would urge the adoption of this amendment and suggest to you to offer your amendment on -- grants, as a grants reduction amendment. We should not be mixing apples and oranges, in a -- in an effort of obfuscate the issues. The issue here is plain and simple. Are the pay raises too high? We think theydre a little hiqh. This will trim them back and we urge you Eo support it.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) All right. Senator Carroll moves for the adoption of Anendment No. to Senate Bill 163. Those in favor signify by saying Aye. Those opposedy Nay. Therels been a request for a roll eall. Everybody be in your seats. Once again, Senator Carroll has moved for the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 163. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voking is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted Who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record, pleasev Madam secretary. On this question, the Ayes are 27e the Nays are 28, 1 voting Present. Amendment No. to Senate Bill 163: fails . Further Floor amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll. 64  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

Apparently our magic system didnlt register mine. It may have been on purpose by someone else. I did press it obviously, when We started the vote: and I understand noW that I wasn't registered. I'd ask the Secretary to check that and -- in which case, I may have voted on the prevailing Eide, would move to reconsider, if I'm not showing as having voteda..tmachine cutoffl...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator, you were not on the prevailing side. We will move -- move forward. Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Severns. Is khat correct, Madam Secretary? Would you read the amendment, please?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Excuse mey Madam Secretary. Senator Zito, for what purpose do you seek recognition?

Yeah. Mr. President, my light Was on in the last amendment. 1, toow had a problem with my switch. think I voted on the prevailing side, and I'd like to move to reconsider the vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator, I already announced that roll call and -- and ruled that the -- the amendment lost. Senator Zito. SENATOR ZITO; Doesn't necessarily matter, Mr. President. I have now moved to reconsider the vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Zito, you're recorded as voting Presentp which means you cannot make that motion. Senator Zito .

65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 I just for clarification, Mr. President I would like explanation from the Chair as to what constitutes voting on the prevailing side. I was not recorded, I -- I understand that a Present vote is, in fact, being reeorded on the prevailing side. I would like a parliamentarian ruling. ...tmachine cutoffl...

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LDFT) Rule 40 simply states that a Senator who voted Present or failed to vote on the question shall not have the right to move for reconsideration. That's in our rules. Wedre now moving to Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Severns. Senator Severnsr on Amendment No. 2.

Thank you, Mr. President and in an effort this is just one more anendment as We try to tighten our oWn belt and demonstrate What every family across the Stake has to do, When putting together their budgets. And this amendmenks simply phases al1 vacaneies by an additional two months: which reduces the GRF by one hundred forty-five thousand dollars. I would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

I would ask, Mr. President, Whether or nok this amendment was predieated on the passage of the prior amendment? PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR LUFT) Ik's our opinion that this amendment is in order and Senaeor Severns request is in order. Senator Etheredge.

This -- you have ruled then, Mr. President, that this amendment is in order? PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFTI That's correct. 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

Will the Senator yield?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFM) She indicates she will yield.

I just want to make sure Senator, that I understand exactly what your amendment proposes to do, because once again, I'm -- I'm sure your amendment is in here someplace, but I just don't have it at the -- at my fingertips; but you propose to phase the hiring of new -- the filling of new positions by stretching that period out by tWo more months. Did I understand that correctly?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns.

That is correct.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Further discussion? Senator Etheredge. SENATOR ETHEREDGEI Well, then I Would -- I would ask since that prior amendment amended the personnel services line, let me ask you, Mr. Preskdent, did -- is this amendment predkcated on the assumption that the prior amendment fail then? I wil1 reverse my initial question.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) The answer is no. ..ptmachine cutoffl... Further discussion? Further discussion? Senator Hall. Senator Hall. Would somebody turn senator Hall's light offs please. Is there any further discussion. If not, Senator Severns, to close.

Thank you, Mr. President. I just Want to say that -- that our approach is reasonable and fair. This is the Comptroller's budget. We are applying these guidelines and these cuts across 67  STATE OE ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 the board: to agencies across the board: to Democratic and Republican Constitutional Officers. We are attempting to offer a reasonable and fair budget in an effort to recognize that there is a growing fiscal crisis in our school, druqs on our streets and other vital needs that must be met before we continue to expand State government. I would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Hall moves for the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 163. Those in favor will signify by saying Aye. Those opposed -- there has been a request for a roll call. There has been a request for a roll call. That Will be honored. Senakor Etheredge.

Mr. Presidenk, let -- I just want to clarify, I1m asking for a rulin: of the Chair. May I ask you, since I do not have a copy of this amendment in front of me, is the wording of this amendment in the following fornat that we -- on page blank: line blank, by subtracting X dollars from *he specified sun. Is that the form in which thls amendment is presented?

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) This is my third time of saying that we believe the amendment is in order. All right. There -- Senator Etheredge.

I'm -- I am not asking, this time, whether or nok the amendment is in order. just want to know, first of all, the form in which ik has been presented. Was it in the form that I just read?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Listen carefully. The form of an amendment to an appropriation bill is not specified in the Senate Rulesy nor is the form specified in Roberts Rules of Order. An amendment serves two purposes. is to instruct the support staff in preparing 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 the final version of the bill. It is also necessary to advise the Membership as to the matter in question. This amendmenk, in our judgment, offered is clear, concise and unambiguous and it serves b0th purposes and is, therefore, in order. Senator Etheredge.

Welly if I could just comment then, Mr. President. It appears to me, that an amendment, drafted in this form, places a considerable -- considerably greater responslbillty on Enrolling and Engrossing. And, it seems to me, that We are -- we could be, I think, in facty are in the position of passing on to them to -- to be makin: determinations as to an interpretations of our Legislative intent. Because We# for example, we might pass three amendments on a bill, each one reducin: the same line item. Now, when these amendments arrive in Enrolling and Engrossing, are they to -- what is goinq to be their base from Which they -- let's suppose they're all reduckions. What is the base from whieh theylre going to work? Are khere -- goin: to subtract the -- are ehey goin: to be cumulative reductions? Or are theysimply going to kake *he -- khe largest decrease fron the original amount in thak line àtem? -- It's -- Or will the last one prevail? seems to me that we are putting them in the -- in the -- givin: them the power to make these kinds of decisions. It seems to me# totally inappropriake.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns moves, again, for the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 163. Those in -- those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, &ote Nay. Opinion of the Chair, the Ayes have The motion is adopted. I mean the amendmentls adopted. Are there any -- further Floor amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35*b Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Senakor Carroll.

I would withdraw that at this time.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) I1m sorry.

Seek leave to withdraw that at this time.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll has sought leave to withdraw Amendment No . 3 to Senate Bill 163. Leave is granted. Is khere any fureher Floor amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Etheredge.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Then I offer an amendment Which will reduce the operational parts of the budgek by four hundred and fifty-two thousand forty-eight dollars în General Revenue Funds; and a further reductlon of a -- of a million and a half in the grant line item for public radio and television. That last line holds that appropriation constant in FY'90 at the FY'89 level of three and a half million dollars. The other -- the other savings -- the other reductions in the operations parts of the budget implements a two-percent turnover in hiring lag factor. It eliminates general increases. whatever that may mean, for merit comp employees, reduees merit comp increases to three and a half percent and it makes a corresponding adjustments in retirenent and social security. There is a further reduction in contractual serviees: for public service announcements and -- and for employee relations traininq. would ask for your favorable consideration. 70  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMRLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Carroll.

First, Mr. Presidentr on a parliamentary inquirys I Would question whether the amendment is noW in order.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Wedll look at the amendment. Could I see the amendment, please? oo.lmachine cutoffl... Senator Etheredqe. I am prepared to rule that Amendment No. 3 is not in order. For the following reason: Senator Severns had an amendment that referred to HPage line l2# by subtracting thirty-two thousand dollarsg'. You refer to Page 1, line 12 in your amendment to a specific number -- and to be more specifkc, ''three mkllkon four hundred and seventy-six thousand eight hundred and seventy nine'' that does not exist at this time, because of Senator Severns' amendment reducing that figure. Therefore, the amendment is out of order. Purther amendments? Further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President. This amendment would be a moderate reductkon kn the pay scale for the office of the Comptroller.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) genator EEheredqe.

Mr. President, then I Would move to reconsider the vote by which Amendment 2 was adopted. And I would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) All right. The Senator's Motion is in order. That was a voice voke and, therefore, everyone is considered to have voted on 71  86STATE th GENOP ERAL ASSEMBLX ILLINOIS RECULAR SESSION j I SENATETRANSCRIPT j 35th Legislative Day May 24y 1989 the prevailing side -- for purposes of a reconsideration. So the -- Senator Etheredge's Motion is in order, and Senator Etheredqe moves to reconsider the vote by which the Amendment No. 2 was adopted to Senate Bill 163. Senator Denuzio .

Well, you know welre -- wedre wasting an -- a lot of time here and its no -- I don't think it's anybody's fault at the moment. It just seems to me that, Senator Etheredge, if wedre going to move to teconsider Anendment No. 1, when we are in discussion of Amendment No. 2, that, frankly, is out of order. But 1et me just suggest, why don't you get your amendments and our amendments so that they track, and when they -- and if they track wedll debate and wedll vote them up and down. I mean, I don't know Why we are going through al1 of this nonsense here. Get your staff and see whether or not your amendments are qoing to track With our amendments and vice versa, then we can proceed. This -- al1 the rest of this stuff is just dilatory, as far as I'm concerned.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Etheredge.

Mr. President, all we are askinq for is the opportunity for a vote on -- on my -- the amendment which I offered. If We can do that, without having to go back and consider Amendment 2, I9m prepared to do that, but We were just denied that opportunity a few moments ago.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATQR LDFT) Senator Etheredge, you were denied that opportunity based on what we thought was a decision, and a valid decision. It Was not an arbitrary decision. Senator Etheredge.

Then I would request that We have a roll call vote on the Motion to Reconsider the vote by which Amendment No. 2 passed. 72  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENEQAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Leqislative Day May 24, 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Demuzio.

Let me suggest something else. Your amendments are obviously in one form , our amendments in another form in another form . Why don 't we put -- why don't we attempt to put our amendments on today, if we can move the bills to 3rd Reading and bring them back tomorrow for your amendments that -- what are -- you don't Want to do that. Well, if your amendments aren't tracking with the bills, you think our amendments have problems, what do you think your amendments are going to have with Enrolling and Engrossing?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Etheredge.o.tnachine cutoffl...

Who would -- I Would ask that we have a roll call on the Kotion to Reconsider.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) A11 riqht. Senator Etheredge moves to reconsider the vote by which Amendment No. l was adopted to Senate Bill 163. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open...tmachine cutoffl... Have al1 voted Who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. On the question, the Ayes are 28, the Nays are 29, none voting Present. And the Senator's request for reconsideration fails. Senator Zito, for what purpose do you seek recognition?

Thahk youz Mr. President. Point of personal privilege, please.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) State your point.

73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Yes, seated in the gallery today, Ladies and Gentlemen, I have the proud privileqe of introducing the eighth grade class from St. Charles Borromeo Parish in Melrose Park. My homekown and my home Parish. I'd like you all to join and welcome them, please.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Please and be -- rise, be recoqnized. Senator Etheredge.

Mr. President, I would seek a verification of the prior vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LDFT) A1l right. Senator Etheredge has requeseed a verlfication. A11 the Senators be in their seats and the Secretary Will read the negative votes...tmachine cutoffl... Please read the roll call: Madam Secretary.

The following Members voted in the negative: Senator Alexander, Berman, Brookins, Carroll, Collins, Daley, DlArco, del Valleg Demuzio, Thomas Dunn, Hall, Holmberg, Jacobs, Jones, J .J. Joyce, Kelly, Lechowicz, Luft, Marovitz, Netsch, Newhouse, O 'Daniel, Rea, Severns, Smith, Vadalabenez Welch, Zito and Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Any questions, Senator Etheredge?

Is Senator Zito here?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Zito? Right here in the back.

Very good. Senator Netsch?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Netsch? Standing in the back.

Is Senator Joyce -- Jerome Joyce? 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) He's in his seat.

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) The -- the roll call has been verified. The Ayes are 28, the Nays are 29e and the Motion to Reconsider fails. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is an attempt to trim the raises in this office to a more reasonable level, that level that al1 other employees of State government have received, and I Would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Will the Senator yield?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) He indicates he will yield.

What is the salary reduction, Senator, that you propose?

PRESTDTNG OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll.

Four hundred eighteen thousand dollar reduction to bring them to four percent.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Etheredge. 75  ! I STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

This is the -- the same amendment that -- that was dealt With earlier then, Senator? PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll.

No. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENKTOR LUPTJ Senator Etheredge.

- - I -- the earlier amendment was four hundred and nineteen thousand, I stand corrected Senator. I stand corrected.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Further diseussion? Further discussion? If not, Senator -- Senator Carroll moves for the adoption of Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 163. A11 those in favor signify by saying Aye. Those opposed, Nay. We're going to have a roll call. All those in favor of Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 163 shall -- will vote Aye. Those opposed: Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted Who wish? Have al1 voted Who wish? Have a1l voted Who Wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. On that questiong the Ayes are 29, the Nays 28y none voting Present; and Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 163 is adopted. Purther Floor amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readin: is Senate Bill 184. Senator Vadalabene. Senate Bill 184. Senator Vadalabene. Read tbe bill, please, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1-8-4. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 I 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. '

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Ploor amendments?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 201. Senator Watson. Read the bill, please, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 201. # (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Floor amendments? N

Senators Jacobs and Watson offer Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Jacobs, on Amendment No. 1. Senator Jacobs.

This amendment, basically, deletes everything after the enacting clause and puts in an exemption for the labor on mobile homes. We did this in order to make it conform to what we feel is a just cause, and I think it's at sixty percent is the percentage khat itlll be taxed at on the sales price. And the reason for this being, is to follow up ln next year with, perhaps: a provision of -- of assessinq them as real property, but we had to get this out of the way first, and I urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Raica.

Thank you, Mr. President. Can I ask the sponsor a question?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) - 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24p 1989 He indicates he'll yield.

Where are Ehe mobile home people on this one? Are they in favor of this amendmentz Senator?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Jacobs. END OP TAPE TAPE 3

I am not akare of any opposition. They have not voiced any opposition to me, let's put that way.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Further discussion? If not, Senator Jacobs moves for the adoption of No. to Senate Bill 201. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The Ayes have i*. The amendmene's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LUPT) 3rd Reading. Senator Vadalabene asks leave to return to the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1-8-4 for the purposes of a Floor amendment. Leave granted? Leave is granted. On *he Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 184. Floor amendments?

Amendment No. l offered by Senator Welch.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Welch.

Thank youe Mr. President. What the effect of this amendment 78  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 is, is it will first, make no monetary changes in the bill itself. It makes a technical change to refer to the correct names of certain civic centers in the bill, increases those appropriations from the lump sum contained in the separate portion of the legislation and -- adds to the bill Rosemont and Dekalb. This will still be within the total funding for the bill: and I would move adoption of Floor Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Will khe Senator yield?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) He indicates hedll yield.

Senator, would you -- you refer to a lump sum appropriation. Are you line iteming several of these appropriations? Could you clarify ehae for me, please?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Welch.

The total appropriation in 184 is one hundred million dollars. We're breaking out for certain civic centers those amounts, but still wikhin the one hundred million dollars.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Etheredge.

Senator, I Would -- I Would appreciate knowing which ones are -- are broken out, and the amounts.

PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Welch.

Al1 right. Senator Etheredge here's the list. Center East 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Civic Center, the increase is 2.4 million dollars. The Sterling Civic Center, the ïncrease is one halc millions dollars, in Senator Schuneman's district. The River Forest Civic Center is 2.6 million dollars. The Collinsville Civic Center is six hundred khousand dollars, Senator Watson's district. The West Prankfort Civic Center is two hundred and twelve thousand dollars. The Mason Civic Center is forty thousand dollars. The Rosemont Civic Center is l.5 million dollars. And the Dekalb Civic Center would be 10.1 million dollars.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Etheredge.

Senator: is Mccormick Place in this -- in this bill?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Welch.

No, sir.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Further discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Another question. By -- line iteming these, and I notice youdve included Dekalb in there for ten million, and I don't know if that was in there before or not. It was not: youfre saying. Then what we are doing isz in effect, reducing the monies available for a number of the other civic center projecks around the state. Are we not?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Welch.

As lonq as the centers met the requirements to be on the list of approved civic centers, we had a fund of money of one hundred nillion dollars. What Wefre doing is, in effectr spending that 80  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATC TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 hundred mlllion dollars for these particular civic centers. There Would still be# according to my figures, some money left over even after including the Dekalb Civic Center.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Etheredge.

Then Senator, -- because of the concern that I have that we may, kn effect, be reducing civic center projects elsewhere around the Stake; I rise in opposition to this -- amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Al1 right. Senator Welch, you wish to close?

I Would just say that We're not reducing civic center fundings for civic centers throughout the State. That's an erroneous argument. Thereês still money left over kithin the hundred million dollars appropriated in this bill; so that -- thatfs impossible. I would move adoption of Floor Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Welch moves for the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 184. Those in favor will signify by saying Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading, a: the bottom of the page, is Senate Bill 2-2-9. Senator Carroll. Read the billg pleases Madam Secretary .

Senate Bill 2-2-9. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriatàons I offers 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I would move to Table Committee Amendment No. 1. Committee Amendment No. l had been during the time at which we were sitting alone in our committee, and had been the incorporation of a11 the operating budgets of Stake agencies. Now that those budgets are on the Ploor, this is unnecessary and I Would move to Table.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Carroll asks leave to Table Committee Amendment No. 1. Is leave granted? Leave's granted and Committee Amendment No. 1 is Tabled. Further amendments?

Amendment -- Commiteee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll. Committee Amendment No. 2.

Likewises I would move to Tabley Mr. President.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Carroll asks leave to Table Committee Amendment No. 2. Is leave granted? Leave is granted and the amendment is Tabled. Any further committee amendments?

Committee Amendment No. 3.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll. Committee Amendment No. 3.

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PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 82 @ 86S tT hAT GENo Er RAL ILL Al Sx So Ez Ms BLY REGULAR sEssloN SENATE TRAXSCRIPT 35th Leqislative Day May 24, 1989 Senator Carroll asks leave to Table Committee Amendment No. 3. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. Committee Amendment No. 3 is Tabled. Any further committee amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Committee Amendment No. 4. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 4. SENATOR CARROLL: Aqain, we would ask leave to... PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Carroll asks leave to Table Committee Amendment No.4 to Senate Bill 229. Is leave granted? Leave is grantedy and the Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 229 is Tabled -- No. 4, I'm sorry. Further committee amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Committee Amendment No. 5. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 5. SENATOR CARROLL: Likewise, move to... PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll asks leave to Table Committee Amendment No. 5 to Senate Bill 2-2-9. Is leave granted? Leave is granted, and the Committee Amendment No. 5 is Tabled. Any further? SECRETARY HAWKER: Commitkee Amendment No. 6. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll asks leave to Table Committee Amendment No. 6 to Senate Bill 229. Is leave granted? Leave is granted, and the Committee Amendment No. 6 is Tabled. Any further committee amendments? SECRETARV HAWKER: 83  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989 No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Floor amendments?

Senators Dudycz and Philip offer Amendment No. 7.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Dudycz.

Thank you, Mr. President. I -- I would like to withdraw *he amendment.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senakor Dudycz asks to Withdraw Amendment No. 7 to Senate Bill 2-2-9. That wish will be qranted. Any further Ploor amendmenks?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Reading. At the bottom of page -- Senate B1ll 230. On the Order of 2nd Reading. Senator Carroll. Read the bill, please, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 230. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Floor amendments?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Reading. At the Top of Page 3, is Senate Bill 242. On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senator Joyce. On the Order of 3rd Reading, Senate Bill -- on the Order of 2nd Reading is Senake Bill 259. Senator Joyce. Read the bill, pleasey Madam Secretary. 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislatike Day May 24g 1989

Senate Bill 259. (Secretary reads title of the bi11) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Floor amendments?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATQR LUFT) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 261. Senator Joyce. Read the bill, please, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 261. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATQR LUFT) Floor amendments?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) 3rd Readinq. On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 266. Senator Marovitz. Senator Marovitz in the Chamber? On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 278. Senator -- Senator Rock. Read the billy please, Madam Secretary. SECRETAR: HAWKER: senate Bill 278. (Secretary reads title of ehe bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Rock.

85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 would move to Table Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Rock asks leave to Table Committee Amendment No. to Senate Bill 278. Is leave granted? Leave is qranted and the amendment is Tabled. Further committee amendments?

Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Rock.

As I understand it, Committee Amendment No. 2 is an addition of seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars in favor of the Chicaqo Urban Extension Service, and Would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Discussion? If not, Senator Rock moves for the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 278. Those in favor will signify by saying Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it, and Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 78 is adopted. Further amendments?

Committee Amendment No. 3.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Rock.

All right. This is addition of tWo hundred and fifty thousand dollars for *he Orr -- Aq Research Farmg and I would move iEs adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (GENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Discussion? Senator Maitland.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Senator Rock, these are Ag Premium Funds? 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Rock.

My understandinq is -- this ks GRP money.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Further discussion? Further discussion? Senator Maitland. SENATOR MAITLAND) Well, maybe you -- we've -- we believe these to be Ag Premium Funds, Senator. I'd maybe we ought to bave a clarification here.

PRSSIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator -- Demuzlo.

In -- in eommittee I believe it was Ag Premium Funds. All riqht. I'm sorry. It's -- this anendment does still refer to Ag Premium. It is our intentione as I mentioned in committee, at sometime to go to GR', providing that theress some revenue enhancements around here. But as it is, the amendment is out of khe Ag Premium Fund, yes.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Fureher discussion? senator Maitland. SENATOR MAITLANDI Well, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. This amendment and the previous amendment both, I believe to be Ag Premium Funds and you know we don'e -- we don't live around here in a surplus of Ag Premium Funds anymore. We appropriate things from Ag Premiume but We -- there's no money there, so we -- thls kould draw down in General Revenue. We ought to know that and understand what we dre doing here, and I would I would suggesk a No vote on -- on this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Further discussion? Senator Rock to close. 87  STATE QF ILLINOIS 86th GENCRAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24: 1989

Well, I -- I can do nothing but agree With you. There is no Ag Premium Pund, so what we're doing is every year, and we will again this yearz I'm sure, take money from GRF and put in the Ag Premium Fund. So left pockets right pockekw the fact of the matter is the progran is two hundred and firty thousand dollars, and it 's worthwhile. And I Would urge adoption of Amendment No.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Roek moves for the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 278. Those in favor Will signify by saying Aye. Those opposed: Nay. The Ayes have it and Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 278 is adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Hall.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Hall, on Amendment No. 4. Senator Hally on Amendment No. 4. Senator: when you learn how to speak like a gentleman 1111 (inaudible) you. senator Philip.

Xou know, Mr. President. Generally speaking *e -- We receive some courtesy from Chair. I've had tWo Senators over here repeatedly ask for a roll call and you ignore them. Now , either welre goin: to run this plaee with some kind of objectivity and fairness, or Wedre not. Now, you know, you heard them, you just avoid them completely. Now, if we ask for a roll calle we wan: a roll call.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator, when you ask for a roll call: and I hear it, you'll 9et it. Senator Hall, on Amendment No. 4. Excuse me, Senator Hall. Senator Maitland.

88  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMDLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Well: Mr. President. -- I was up and -- and shouting for a roll call and didn't get it. I think the Secretary even put the -- put *he board up there, but my -- my coneern is, I'm wondering, now, if -- if -- if those tko amendments that juse went onk are they -- are they tracking?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Those two amendments, Senator Maitland, are on: and I did not hear you in your request for a roll call; or else you would have qotten your roll call. Proceeding now With Senate Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 278. Senator Hall.e.tmachine cutoffl...

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This amendment reduces it back to the Governor's level of thirty-three million.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Discussion? Senator Maitland. Senator Maitland.

Mr. President, just 1et me comment once again. Weêre not trying to be dilatory over here. It is our belief that those two amendnents -- amended Amendment No. 1, which was Tabled, and -- and you know, we're not -- we tre trying to make this system work. Wedre not trying to be dilatory or -- or to screw up the process.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Maitlandy your question on those two aaendments comes due after theybve been adopted. Is there any discussion on Senator Hall's amendment? Senator Maitland...tmachine cutoffl... SENATOR MAITLANDI Senator, what does the amendment do?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Hall.

It reduces it to the Governor's budget level, Senator. That's 89  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Leqislative Day May 24# 1989 the -- Senator Maitland are you...

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LDFT) Senator Maitland.

I Will except that explanationy I think.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Further discussion? Senator Hall, to close. If notz Senator Eall moves for the adoption of Amendment No. 4 to Senate B1ll 278. Those is favor will signify by saying Aye. Those opposed, Nay. There's been a request for a roll call. A1l those Will vote Aye on Amendment No. 4 to Senate bill 278. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. ...tmachine cutoffl... Have al1 voted who wish? Eave a11 voted who wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 49z the Nays are 9, none voting Present. Anendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 278 is adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 5 offered by President Rock.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Rock, on Amendment No. 5.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No. 5 would add some seven and a half million dollars to the allocation for the Board of Higher Edueation. Ik is a prospective implementation of the tax increase thak has been proposed by the Speaker and will be proposed by myself and I would move iks adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LDFT) Discussion? Senator Fawell.

Thank you very much. You know, I am trying to keep track of khese amendments. I have -- I am -- thousands of pieces of paper 90  STATE OF ILLINOI' S 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 here. I wank to know, Was that amendment distributed, or not?

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR LPFT) The answer is yes. Senator Pawell.

Then would request a five-minute recess, until we can get the papers settled.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATQR LUFT) We 're going to proceed with further discussion and, hopefully, by the time we ask for a vote, it will be fàve minutese and you Will have your amendment in hand. Senator Maitland.

Thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of khe Senate. I think the Body ought to know what we lre doing here. Senator Rock, until last week you and I have skood, I khink, side by Gide on -- on the need for additional fundingy for not only educationz but many other areas of State government. I don't think, at leask in the history that I've been here eleven years now, welve ever done anything like this prospectively. This is still the month of May. This is still the month of May. We are voting here on an appropriation bill that assumes the tax increase that you and b0th know may not be there, and I -- just am very concerned about doing something like this in this fashion. I would suggest, sir, that we -- that we not pass this amendment. We ought to proceed forward. There will be a number of negotiations on the tax increase between now and June 30th. ïou and I both know that. And let's don't send a signal out Ehere that we ean't live up to, and by the contrast that we may be able to live up to it in June. So I would just suggest a No vote on this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Further discussion? Senator Rock, to close.

Senator Maitland, I consider us still standing shoulder to 91  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24: 1989 shoulder. And I truly believe that you and both know this bill's -- is goin: to come back, in any event. But I think the signal has to be sent out, that we indeed are serious about the need for additional revenue for higher education and for elementary and secondary education, and 1, frankly, intend in every bill that comes down the pike, to allocate that money prospectively, so that we needn 'e go to conference committee. fully intend to pass that tax increase and I -- I hope With your help; and I would move move adoption of Amendment No. 5. PRESIDING OFFICERJ (SENATOR LUFT) A11 right. Senator Rock has moved for the adoption of No. -- Amendment No. 5 to Senate Bill 278. Al1 those in favor will signify by saying Aye. There's been a request for a roll -- there has been a request for a roll call. All those in favor will signify by voting Aye. Those vote Nay. The voting is open. ... tmachine cutoffl.w.Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 30, the Nays 28, none voting Present, and Amendment No. 5 eo senate Bill 275 is adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 6 offered by Senator Welch.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Welchr on Amendment No.

Thank you, Mr. Presidene. WhaE Ehis amêndment Will do, is to -- reduce the allocation for the Math and Science Academy by five hundred and fifty thousand dollars and re-allocate those funds within the Board of Higher Education budget for grant lines. I would move adoption of Floor Amendment No. 3

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LDFT) Discussion? Senator Maitland. 92  S'ATE OP ILLINOTS 86th GENERAL ASSEMZLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 I SENATOR MAITLAND: ! 1 I would ask, Mr. President, maybe We ouqht to turn the speaker I I up. We -- we didn't quite hear the explanation over here, and seriously, Senatorz we did not hear it. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Welchy would you restate your position on Amendment No. 6?

Thank you. Eloor Amendment No. 6 reduces the Math and Science Academy budget by five hundred and fifty thousand dollars, re-allocating the same anount of funds to the Board of Higher Education grant lines within the same budget.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Discussion? Senator Eeheredge.

Then this amendment then reduees the Academy to a level below that whieh has been allocated by the Board of Higher Education. Is that correct, Senator?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Welch.

Thae's correct. PRESIDING OFFICERt (SENATOR LUFT) i I Senator Etheredge.

This às the -- the personnel line -- only. Would you glve me thak figure, What figure you propose for this line item? Jusk ko make sure that we're...

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Welch.

There'stwo reductions. Three hundred and thirty million 1 93  I STATE GP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMNLX j REGULAR SESSION . SENATE TRANSCRIPT 1 I I 35th Legislative Day May 24y 1989 dollars for the personal services line leem -- thousand, and two hundred thousand for the contractual service line item. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Etheredge. SENATOR ERHEREDGE: Well then: could you give me the -- the new personal services line item, then? If your amendment is adopted. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LDFT) Senator Welch. Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH: Because of the passage of Senator Rock's amendment: we are going to withdraw this amendment. The next amendment is going to do what we're planning on doing. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Welch moves to Withdraw Amendment No. 6 to Senate Bill 278. The amendmenk will be wikhdrawn. Any further amendments? SECRETARY HAWXCR: Amendment No. 6 offered by Senator Welch. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Oh, okay. Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH: Thank you. This does What We Were talkinq about. The answer to your question is eiqht million ninety-five thousand six hundred dollars. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Etheredge. SENATOR ETHEREDGE: What is tbe GRP figure in the personnel line item? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH: Well -- well that is the figure that would be in there. It'd I 94 1 I !  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24r 1989 be the eight million ninety-five ehousand six hundred dollars. That is GRE.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Etheredqe. Further discussion? Senator Rock.

Thank you, Mr. president and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. As khe sponsor, I don't even like this amendment.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR LDPT) Senator Welch, to close. SENATOR WELCH; The Math and Science Academy eame in for a tremendous increase in their budget this year; and ineluded in that budqet increase was for campus security, two members for campus security, which they could not justify by having any allegations of lncidents on the campus last year, when they did appear in the eommittee. The other -- the other items that they were going for Were -- were' totally, items that many of us in the committee felt were unnecessary, and that's why we proposed ehis amendment. think...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Welch moves for the adoption of Amendment No. 6 eo Senate Bill 278. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. There will be a roll eall. Al1 those in favor siqnify -- will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The votin: is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted wbo Wish? Have a11 voted who kish? Take the record, please, Madam Seerekary. On Ehat question: the Ayes are 18, the Nays 36, none voting Present, and Amendnent No. 6. havinq -- falling eo receive a constitutional majorityy falls. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 7 offered by Senator Welch.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LDFT) 95  1 I I STATE OF ILLINOIS 86*h CENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT i 35*h Legislative Day May 24, 1989 I Senator Welch, on Amendment No. 7. SENATOR WELCH: I Would ask to withdrak that amendment. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Welch asks to withdraw Amendment -- No. 7. That amendment will be Wikhdrawn. Any further Ploor amendments? SECRETARV HAWKER : Amendment No . 7 offered by Senator Welch. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Welch, on Amendment No. 7. SENATOR WELCH: Thank you. Whae khis amendnent Will do is remove one hundred thousand dollars from this budget. We're going to put the hundred thousand dollars back into the Governorfs officeîs budget in Senate Bill 414, because that seems ko be a more appropriate place. PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR LUFT) Dkscussion? Senaeor Maitland. SENATOR MAITLAND: You're going to take the money from where? And put it where? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH: The amount is one hundred thousand dollars. We're taking it from khis budget, putting it in the Governor's budget. Which is senate Bil1 414. In a laker amendment. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Maitland. SENATOR MAITLAND : I -- I'm sorry Senator, but what for? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Welch. 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSIQN SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24r 1989

Well it's the same as been broken out this year. The -- the use of the money is by the Governor's office, so it's more approprkate to be in the Governor's budqet than the Board of Higher zdueation budget.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Turther discussion? Further discussion? Senator Maitland.

I'm not sure What we're doing here, but these -- these are higher edueation grants. They ought to be *here, and stay there, and I would just simply suggest a No vote.

PRESIDING OPEICER: (SENATOR LUPT) A1l right. Senator Welch, to close.

Well, apparently it Worked Well this year Senator Maitland, because that's what we did for the fiscal year of 1989, so wedre trying to do the same thing for fiscal year 1990. It's not removing any grant money that was there that wefre taklng away. It's a continuation of exisking policy and that's Why We?re trying to do it. So, I Would move for adoptàon of the amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATQR LUFT) All rlght. Eenakor %elch moves for the adoption of Amendment No. 7 to Senate Bill 278. A1l those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. On ehat questlony the Ayes are 29# the Xays 29, none voting Present. Amendment No. to Senate Bill 278 fails. Any further amendments?

Amendmene No. 8 offered by Senator Welch.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Welch. 97  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TPANSCRIPT 35th Legkslatk&e Day May 24e 1989

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 8 adds the Technology Challenge and Investment Programs of thirty million dollars. This was in the Department of Commerce and Community Affair budget in the House, but the House deleted it, and we kish to add it to the Higher Ed budget here in the Senate. I Would move for adoption of Amendnent No. 8.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Discussion? Senator Maitland.

Thank youy Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Senator Welch, we believe that these ought to be in DCCA. We would, once again, suggest a No vote.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Welch. Any dkBcussion? Kny further discussion? Senator Welch: to close.

Well, this -- this is a Higher Ed Proqram and it's probably somethinq that belongs in the Higher Ed budget. As We said, the House doesn't belkeve kk belongs in the DCCA budget. They already removed it. If we don't put it on here, it will be somewhere in limbo in between. I think that funding for Higher Ed should be in Higher Ed budgets: and I Would move for ehe adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) A11 zight. Senator Welch moves for the adoption of Amendment No. 8 to Senate Bill 278. A11 those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record' please, Madam Secretary. On that question the Ayes are 29# the Nays are 29, none voting Present and the amendment fails. On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 278. Madam Secretary, is there any further amendments? 98  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 SECRETARY EAWKER Z No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Readinq. On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 278. Senator Weaver. Read the bill, please, Madam Secretary. 279.

Senate Bill 2-7-9. (Secretary reads title of khe bill) 2nd Readin: of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOP LUFT) Senator Weaver, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

This, Mr. President and Membersy reduced it to the Governor's level.

PRESIDINC OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Discussion? If not, Senator Weaver movis for the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 279. A11 ehose in favor will signify by saying Aye. Those opposedp Nay. The Ayes have àt, and Amendment No. 1 to Senake Bil1 279 is adopted. Further amendments? SECRETAR; HAWKER: No further commitkee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Floor amendments?

President Rock offers Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATO: LUPT) Senator Roek.

Thank your Mr. President and Ladies and Genklemen of the Senate. Amendment No. 2 ise again, an add-on of GRF to reflect 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24r 1989 the prospective tax increase, and I Would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Maitland.

Thank you, Mr. President. I Wanted to say once aqain, the money isn't here yet and I we ought to vote No on this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Purther discussion? Senator Rocke to cloûe.

Well. again, I reiterate. My intent is to place these kinds of amendments on all these series of bills to let the world know we are deadly serious about that proposed tax increase. Everybody readily admits Higher Education needs additional noney. Let's put it in there. If indeed for some reason it does not eome to pass, you and I both know that eitber the House or the Governor are quite capable of taking it back down. But I really believe that we ought to do this, and let the world know We're serious, and I would move adoption of Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senakor Rock moves for the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 279. All those in favor Will -- a11 those in favor will vote Aye. All those opposed: vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted Who Wish? Have all voted who wish? On that question, the Ayes are 30: khe Nays are 28, none voting Present, and ehe amendment ls adopted. Further amendmenks?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Weaver.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Weaver.

l00  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 I'd ask leave to wkthdraw Amendment No. It doesn't track the bill. PRESIDING OFPICERI (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Weaver asks leave to witbdraw Amendment Is leave granted? Leave's granted. Amendment. No. 3 is withdrawn. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SBNATOR LUFT) 3rd Readinq. Channel 3, WCIA televisionp has asked permission to televise the proceedings. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of 3rd Reading is Senake Bill 280. Senator Weaver. Read the billy please, Madam Secretary.

Senate B1ll 280. (Secreeary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Commtttee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFIQER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Weaver.

Thank you: Mr. President. This brings it down to the Governor's level.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Weaver moves for the adopkion of Amendment No. l to senate Bill 280. Those is favor will signify by saying Aye. Those opposede Nay. The Ayes have and the Amendmenk No. ko Senate Bill 280 is adopted. Further amendments?

Committee Amendmenk No. 2.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Weaver. l0l  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENEKAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989

Thank youy Mr. President. When they drafted this bill the -- there was an error in -- in drafting, and this also brings it down to the Governor's level.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senakor Weaver moves for the adoption of Amendment 2 to Senate Bill 280. Those is favor will signàfy by saying Aye. Those opposedw Nay. The Ayes have it, and Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 280 is adopted. Further amendments? SECRETAR: HAWKER: No further committee amendments. PRESIDING OPFICERI (SENATOR LUFT) Floor amendments?

No -- Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 281. Senator Carroll. Read the bill, please, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 281. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. Would reduce khe appropriation to the Board of Governor's to the Governorls level. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Discussion? Discussion? If not, Senator Carroll l02  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislatkze bay May 24w 1989 moves for the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 281. Those is favor will signify by saying Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it, and Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 28l is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further committee amendments. PRESIDING OPFICER) (SENATOR LOFT) Floor amendments? SECRETARY RAW:ER: President Rock offers Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Rock.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Genelemen of the Senate. This is an addikional ten mlllion dollars in General Revenue, reflectàn: what I hope Will be the tax increase that we will shortly adopt. It will provide an eight percent salary increase and fully fundse I'm happy to say, the BEH -- BHE recommendation for general cost inereases, utilities and libraries. It's ten million dollars. I would move adoption of Amendment No. 2. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Maitland.

Thank you: Mr. Presidene. Once again, the same objection; we don't -- we don't have it yet. 1'11 be khere When khe money is there, but it's not there and I don't think we should send this wrong sîgnal. I appreciate a No vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Further discussion? Senator Rock, to close.

Welly Senator Kaitland, you and have stood shoulder to l03  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 shoulder 1o, these many years. I intend to send a signal, and that's the purpose of Amendment No. 2 and subsequent amendments. And I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OPFIPER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Rock moves for the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 281. Those in favor will signify by sayinq Aye. Those opposed, Nay. I canft read your mind. Those in favor Will signify by voting Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. %he voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. On that question: the Ayes are 30, the Nays 27, none votinq Present. Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 28l is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Readin: is Senate Bill 282. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill, please, Madam Seeretary.

Senate Bill 282. (Secretary reads title of tbe bl11) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Etheredge.

Committee Amendment No. l reduces the appropriation to the Governor's level. I would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Diseussion? If not, Senator Etheredge moves for the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 282. Those is favor will skgnify by sayinq Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The hyes l04  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legkslatkve Day May 24, 1989 have it, and Amendmenk No. l to Senate Bill 282 is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further comnittee amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Eloor anendments?

President Rock offers Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Rock.

Thank you: Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No. 2 will raise it to whate I hope, Will be the Governor's level. It adds nineteen million dollars. fully funds a11 the scholarship programs including. I'm happy to say, the eiqht million dollars that's necessary for the merit recognition scholarship that everybody in this Chamber voted for; Which happened to be a eliminated from the Governor's original budget, and I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senakor Maktland.

Thank you, Mr. President. Simply the same objeetion.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SZNATOR LDFT) Senator Rock, ko close. SENATOR ROCRZ Well, the objection I -- I -- I guess is -- is less than valid. We -- We, around here, amend bills to reflect what our intenk is and our -- my intent, and I hope yours, is to provide more money for hiqher education. I Would Move the adoption of Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OPEICER: (SENAQOR LUFT) l05  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Senator Rock moves for the adoption of Amendment 2 to Senate Bill 282. Those in favory signify by voting Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The Ayes have i*, and the amendment's adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 283. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill, please: Madam Secretary.

Senate Btll 3 2-8-3. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDING OFPICERZ (SENKTOR LUFT) Floor amendments?

Senator Etheredge offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Etheredge.

Mr. Presidenty I would ask that that amendment be wiehdrawn.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Etheredge asks leave to Withdraw Amendment No . Leave is granted. The amendment's withdrawn. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Reading.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 284. Madam Secretary. Read the bill, please. l06  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENEKAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

Senate Bill 284. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriatlons 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senaeor Hall.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen. This simply returns ie to the Governor's level. Ifd ask -- move for the adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. to Senate Bill 284. Is there discussion? If notg those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed: Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. l is adopted. Further committee anendments?

No further committee amendments. PRESIDING OFFICERJ (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

President Rock offers Amendnent No. 2.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rock.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is an additional twelve million dollars in General Revenue Fund which will reflecte I hope, the kax increase that we are goin: to shortly propose, and I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rock has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2. Is l07  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86*h GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legkslative Day May 24, 1989 there discussion? Those in -- if not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 2 is adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. offered by Senator Holmberg.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Holmberg.

Thank you, Mr. Presldent. This amendment is for the study, purchase and constructlon of a school in Roekford. For an annex to the Northern Illinois University Campus in our community.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Holmberg has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 3. Is there diseussion? Senator Maitland.

Mr. President, only to -- to ask the Ladys how much again?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Holmberg.

Pive hundred thousand.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Puzther discussion? Senator Holmberg has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 284. Those in favor will indicate by Aye. Opposed, Nay. All right. There's been a roll call requested. Senator Holmberg has moved the adoption of -- of Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 284. Those ln favor will vote Aye. Those opposed: Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voeed Who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. 0n that question the Ayes are 29r tbe Nays are 28, none voting Present. Amendment No. 3 is adopted. Further amendments?

l08  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Maitland.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senakor Maitland, on Anendment No. 4.

Thank you, Mr. President. This is a reapprop. This was, it's my understanding, was left out of the budget ànadvertently. There was a transfer here from last year from one agency to another, and was left out. I would appreciate your support.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Maitland moves khe adoption of Amendment No. 4. Discussion? Senator Welch.

Mr. President, I'd just like to ask if this amendment now tracks With the adoption of these other three amendments? ... lmachine cutoffl... PRESIDING OFPICERI (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Rather than respond to that request' Senator Maitland has moved the adoptlon of Amendment No. 4. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have Amendment No.4 is adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 285. Senator Vadalabene. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 285. Madam Secretary, read the bill, please.

Senate Bill 285. (Seeretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriation 11 offers Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) l09  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY RECULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Senator Hall.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen. This simply reduces it to the Governor's level. Move for the adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed: Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. l is adopted. Further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKERJ Amendment No. 2 offered by President Rock.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rock.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is an additional ten million eight hundred thousand dollars to reflect what I hope Will be a unanimous tax increase vote, and I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rock has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 285. Is there diseussion? If notz khose in favor will indicate by sayin: Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have iE. Amendment No. is adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 286. On the Order of Senate Bills ll0  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86*h GENERAL ASSEMRLX RECULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislattve Day May 24r 1989 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 286. Madam Secretary, read the bill, please.

Senate Bill 286. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Approprlations 11 offers Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator -- Senator Hall.

Thanks, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen. This is an eighteen million dollar reduction. It simply reduces to the Governor's level. I move for the adoption of khis amendmenk.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Dill 286. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor Will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Anendment No. 1 is adopted. Further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Amendments from khe Ploor?

President Rock offers Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rock.

Thank you, Mr. Presldent, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is an additional fourteen million dollars, agaln, to reflect what I hope will be a tax increase that we will vote on shortly. I would move its adoption. lll  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th CENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rock has moved the adopeion of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 286. Is there discussion? If notp those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed: Nay. The Ayes have Anendment No. is adopted. Purther amendments?

Amendnent No. 3 offered by Senators Smith and Brookins.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Smith.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladles and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No. 2 are -- is merely an add of two hundred and fifty thousand -- of three, 1'm sorry. Amendment No. 3 is two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for the ordinary and contingent expenses for the Probation Challenge Program, which is a pilot program, and I ask for your amendment -- adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Smith has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 3. Is there discussion? Senator Maitland. SENATOR MAITLAND! Senator, can you explain the program to us? Why are we doing this?

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Smith.

This program has been around for over tko -- three years. We have -- constantly brought here: to the Senate: and we have asked that you would permit us to have it. What it is, is training inmates how to read and to write and, especially, among the -- those who are in these prksons. If we can help to thae, this is a pilot program. It was approved. It was adopted and so this is -- webre asking you again to please help us to have that l12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY ' REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT ! 35th Legislative Day May 24y 1989 I I I prooram 1 . j ! PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR DEMUZIO) I I Senator Maitland. SENATOR MAITLAND: Senator, I1m -- I'm sure it's a worthwhile program. Ilm Wondering why khis was not in the -- the coRmunity college request. Why Wasnft it in their request? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Senator Smith. SENATOR SMITH : 1,t was allocated and one of the employees Who worked with the Governor: under the Governor, one of his deputies came to a dinner and told us that that money was a11 in place, and when time came for that money to be allocaked: it had been used up and soz therefore, we did no* have it. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Maitland. SENATOR MAITLAND: Well, Senator, ehat -- I -- I don't know about that. Thak may uell be krue; as far as We know, it was not in the their request. And it probably -- ik must not be a high priority item for the I community college and I -- you know, aqain I -- with al1 due I ! respeckzMa'am, I -- I believe that we ought, probably, to defeat 1 theamendmentatthistime . 1 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Pawell. SENATOR FAWELL: Thank you very much. Senator Smith, as you well know, I have put in a bill three -- three different times to ge* this program soing. It is -- it ls going. I have talked to Director Lane. We have a district -- school district in the prisons. He is already doing this with thepersonnelthat'sonhandand,youknow,the j ! ll3 I  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th begislative Day May 24, 1989 -- the program 's moving. You talk to John Howard Society, or you talk to the Safer Poundation; you will find khey have been doing this after I beat them over khe head for three years and -- and I'm not sure that this is even needed anymore.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A1l right. Fureher discussion? Senator Brookins.

Thank you. Senator Fawell, think you're mixed up a little. Let me go through and explain this. Probation Challenge is When you put parolees are mandated by judges to put parolees into this program . This program is housed: at present, on the campus of -- of Olive Harvey. They have reduced the recidivism raee to less than one-half of one percent, and 1'11 repeae ehat for your information. The recidivism rate has been reduced at less than one-half percent. So this is a proqram that is working. It is preventing young men and young women from returning to a life of crime. It -- it do ehis through education' through making them aware that there ls another way. What they have found -- they have found that the average person that commits a crime has less than a high school or less than a grammar sehool edueation, and therefore, they know that if they educate these youn: people, if they give them some training, not only in -- in -- in -- in -- in a way ko Work, but the -- khe basic training, the how to just to say ''thank you/' and -- and -- and when -- when some -- when a person does something for you. Theydre barely able to cope With society and society today. Eo herels a program that is housed in the ckty colleqes of Chicago. ehat is -- khat is Working. It has been approved by the judges in the eriminal courts, and they are mandating -- they are mandating parolees -- probationaries Isic> to this program, and that is what this money will be used for, is to fund this program. It is a worthwhile program; it is something that we have been working with and working for for over four l14  STATB OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 years. It is now in law - was signed in law some time ago by the Governor - and noW welre asking that this be funded to -- to the tune of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. Further discussion? Senator Fawell, for a second time.

Well in reply to what you sakd, Senator Brookins. I know about the programs. I Worked on that for three years solid. In fact unfortunately When it went over to -- thak bill went over to the House, you voted agatnst it and -- I know what the program is. Safer Poundation is doing exactly the same thing. The programs are in place. They are also in place in the prisons. They are kn place for the parolees. They are already being uorked on, you know, the money is already allocated to those plaees; and al1 I'm sayinq is we don't need another program. This is working, and I Would suggest that we all vote against this amendment.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Al1 riqht. Purther diseussion? If not, Senator Brookinsz for a second tlme. Just a moment. Senator Brookins. GENATOR BROOKINSI In response to the question. Senator Fawell, this is not in the prisons, number one, and we're nok talking about parolees. We're talking about probationers, people that appear before a judge, a judge sentenced them, and then they -- they -- khey get probation to this -- thls program. So this is what wefre talking about. It is -- Director of is a person in the name of Reverend Bailey. Senator, I will brinq you brochures. It has been featured on Channel 7 in Chicago, Channel 2, ik made Channel 11 and all naeional magazines -- 'V stations. It is a good program .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) ll5  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24w 1989 Further discussion? Senator Smieh may close.

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I merely ask for a favorable roll call and 1et this come to -- fruition.

PRCSIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A11 rigbt. Senator Smith has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 286. Those in favor will indicate by sayîng Aye. Opposed, Nay. A11 right. There's been a request for a roll call. I'm -- I'm looking at your minority -- your spokesman over there, Senator Davidson. Al1 right. The -- Senator Smith has moved the adoption of Amendment No. tù Senate Bill 286. Those is Cavor Will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted Who wisb? Have a1l voted who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 30, the Nays are 28, none voting Presenk. Amendmene No. 3 is adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SESATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 287. Senator Etheredqe. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 287. Madam Secretary, read the bill.

Senate Bill 287. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRCSIDING OFFICER: (SCNATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Eloor?

Senator Etheredqe offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Etheredge. l16  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

Mr. President, I would ask that that amendment be withdrawn.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. Senator Etheredge seeks leave of the Body eo have Amendment No. l wikhdrawn. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. Amendment No. l is withdrawn. Purther amendments? SECRETARY EAWKkR: No further amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 288. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 288. Madam Secretaryy read the bill, please.

Senate Bill 2-8-8. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall.

Thank you: Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen. This is simply a reduction of forty-five million down ko the Governor's level. Move for the adoption of this...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall moves khe adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. Senate Bill 288. Is there discussion? If noe, Ehose in iavor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendmene No. l -- Committee Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Further committee amendmenes?

Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) ll7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Senator -- Senator Weavel.

All right. Thank you -- thank you, Mr. President. This is an addition of four hundred and thirty-five thousand dollars generated from computer fees and I'd move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall -- Senakor Weaver has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. Is there discussion? If -- Senator Colllns. If not, those in favor Will indicake by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. is adopted. Commietee -- further committee amendments?

Committee Amendment No. 3.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Eall.

This is an addition of two hundred and fifty thousand for ag research. I move for the adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall has moved the adoption of Colmlittee Amendment No. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor Will indicate by sayîng Aye. Opposedw Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No . 3 is adopted. Further committee amendments?

Committee Amendment No. 4.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall. A11 right. Senator Rock. Senator Rock, on amendment -- committee amendment -- I beg your pardon -- Amendment No. 1, Floor Amendment to Senate Bill 288. Implements the tax increase allocation for University of Illinois. Senator Rock.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the 1l8  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Leglslaeive Day May 24, 1989 Senate. This is an additional thirty million dollars in General Revenue Fund to reflect what I hope will be the tax increase, and I would move its adoption. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SSNATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rock has moved the adoption of ..olmachine cutoffl... All right. My script does not indicate that there is a Committee Amendment No. I am told by the Clerk thae there isr ln fact, a Committee Amendment No. With leave of the Body, letls take Ploor Amendmene 1 out of the record so that we can travel in proper sequence. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. 0ut of the record . Further committee amendments?

Committee Amendment No. 4.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall. Senator Maitland, for khat purpose do you rise?

Just for clarity, Mr. President. We dontt understand what you were doing.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A1l right. Senator Maitland, I had that khere were only three committee amendments. I am told that there are four committee amendments. I proceeded to call for further commiktee amendments. The Clerk indicaeed that apparently there weren't any. I went ko -- Wait a minute, she did not. beg your pardon. I misread her then. Then I moved on to Floor amendments, which the first Ploor amendment was Senator Rock's. Since Ehat time khe Committee Amendment No. 4 has -- has popped up: which I did not know about. And so took Floor Amendment No. 1 out of the reeord, temporarily, to go back to Committee Amendment No. 4. So we are on Committee Amendment No. 4. Senator Maitland.

Record of Committee -- Amendment No. 4. That's our concern. ll9  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24e 1989

PRESIDIXG OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Senator Weaver, for what purpose do you rise?

Maybe ehe best approachp Mr. President, would be to offer the committee amendments as Floor amendments after Anendment No. 1 is adopked. And I think maybe khey would all track.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Well. ...tmachine cutoffl... Al1 riqht. Senator Hall moves ko Table Committee Amendment No. 4 to Senate B1l1 288, with the purpose of offering it later. Senator -- Senator Hall has moved to Table Committee Amendment No. Senator Hall, for What purpose do you rise?

just want to get a clarification of Now we Will offer this amendment later? Is that my understanding?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) It is my understanding that you Will move to Table a Committee Amendment No. 4, for the purpose of attempting to clarify this situation, and then we will proceed With the additional amendmenks at which time...

Thak's Senator Jonesls amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) At which time Senator Jones may offer his amendnent from the Floor.

Okay.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) It'l1 be the requisite number when we 9et to it. Senator Eall has moved to Table Committee Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 288. Those is favor kill indicate by sayin: Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. 4 is Tabled. Further 120  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24p 1989 committee amendments?

No further comnitkee amendmenks.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Amendments from the Floor?

President Rock offers Amendment No. 5.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rock.

Thank you. This is the addition of thirty million dollars to reflect what I hope, aqain: will be the tax inerease' and I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rock has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1. Is khere discussion? Senator -- if not, those is favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposedg Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. is adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 6 offered by Senator Jones.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Jones.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Amendment No. 6 appropriates seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars from the A: Premium Fund for the Illinois Cooperative Extension System-Wide Urban Leadership in Education Program. move its adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A1l right. Senator Jones has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 6. Is there discussion? Senator Maitland.

12l  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMNLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Thank you: Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Senator Jonesy a little more lengthy explanation, please.

PRESIDING OEEICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) I beg your pardon. Senator Maitland, was thae a question? Senator Jones.

It says just what it says. What ik does is provide seven hundred and fifty thousand from the Ag Premium Fund for a System-Wide Urban Leadership Program in training parents. They will use professionals that say what they do across the State of Illinois to help them get involved in leadership being in the educational area. PRESIDING OFPICER) (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Maitland.

Well, thank youy Mr. President. Again, Senator, probably a worthwhile program. I have -- I have two problems. Number ones that it's that it's Ag Premium Fund, I don't get the relationship there. But theny secondly, and more importantly, this is a raid on GRF and, quike frankly, we simply don't have the money and I -- for that reason, I would stand in opposition to the amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? If note Senator Jones has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 6 ko Senate Bill 288. Those in favor will indieaee by saying Aye and oppoged, Xa#. There has been a request for a roll eall. Senator Jones moves the adoption of Anendment No. 6. Those in favor will indlcate by voting Aye. Those opposed, Nay. ;he voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who Wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 30: *he Nays are 27. Anendment No. 6 is adopted. Further amendments? 122  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

Amendment No. 7 offered by Senator Demuzio.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. Is there leave for Senator Hall to -- to handle that? A1l right. Senator Hall, on Amendment No. 7.

Thank you, Mz. Presioent and Ladies and Gentlemen. This is two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for -- agriculture research, farn line and livestock. I move the adoption of this amendment. PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. Discussion? Senator Maitland.

Thank you, Mr. President. I think this is, actually, the third amendment we've had -- no, 1 thknk it's the thkrd dealin: with this issue. We had one for two fifty, one for twenty-five and now one for two fifty and I -- I think We're duplicating here. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rall.

The other was deleted by Senator Rock's amendment. Do you read now?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) One of Senator Roek's amendments deleted everything after the enacting clause and this Would have to restore it. Senator Maitland. Senator Maitland.

A1l right. What about the twenty-five -- was that affecked the same way? So now we are back to two fifty?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall.

%e're right back to where you want us to be. l23  STATE OF ILLINOIS j 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION 1 SENATE TRANSCRIPT I I 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Maitland. Senator Hall has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 7. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 7 is adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 8 offered by Senator Weaver. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Weaver. SENATOR WEAVER: Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 8 would add four hundred and sixty-five thousand dollars from the monies senerated from the computer fees. and I'd move its adoption. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Weaver has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 8. Is there discussion? Discussion? If not, those is favor will indicate by sayin: Aye. Opposedy Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 8 is adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: No further amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. All right. Senate Bill 291. Senator Joyce. Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 291. Madam Secretary, read the bill. SECRETARX HAWKER : senate Bill 291. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWEER : No Ploor amendments. l24 1 ! I 1 I  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24r 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 306. Senator Jones. 328. Senator Hall. If I could have your attention for just a moment. Senator Watson has a special quest he wishes to introduce. Senakor Wakson.

Thank youy Mr. President. You may recall last year that Kelly Culbreth, who's with me here today, Was selected and was introduced before the Senate as Miss Junior Illinois of 1988. Well shels here today as Miss Illinois American Coed of 1989. She just recently won khak contest and will represent Illinois in Hawaii in August. She also Was selected, at the same time the only time this has ever happened to be the 1989 Illinois American Coed Talent Competition winner also. So# she's going to Wear two hats for us over there in Hawaii; and I'm sure she's going to represent us Well. She's from Centralia and attends Centralia High School in my District and her proud father, here With the camera, Bill Culbreth: and wefll certainly Welcome you both to the -- to the Illinois Senate, and Kelly would like to say a few words.

(Remarks by Kelly Culbreth)

Thank you, Relly. Kelly is a Preshman at Centralia High School. Amazing, isnft it? Good-lookin: lady. Thank you.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENAQOR DEMUZIO) 328. Senator Hall. On the Order of Senake Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 328, Madam Secretary. Read khe bill.

Senate Bill 328. (Secretary reads title of khe bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) l25  STATE 0P ILLINOIS I 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION k SENATETRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Any amendments from the Ploor? SECRETARY HAWKER: No Floor amendments. PRESIDING OEFICERI (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 329. Senator Hall. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readinq is Senate Bill 329. Madam Seeretary, read the bill. SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Bill 329. (Secretary reads title of khe bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATQR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARX HAWKER: No Floor amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Readàng. Senate Bill 332. Senator Carroll. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 332. Madam Secretary: read the bill. SECRETARX HAWKER: Senate Bill 3-3-2. (Secrekary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKERZ No Floor amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 369. Senator Etheredqe. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 3-6-9. Madam Secretary, read the bill. SECRETARY HAWKER: I l26 I I  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SZSSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 ' Senate Bill 3-6-9. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKER: Senaeor Etheredqe offers Amendnent No. 1. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMPZIO) Senator Ekheredqe. SENATOR ETHEREDGE: ehank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senake. This is the amendment which was discussed in committee, which limits practice to Commercial Transportation Law. I would move for its adoption. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Etheredqe has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 369. Is there discussion? If noty those is favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposedw Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKERt No further amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senator Barkhausen. There's been a correctional fiscal lmpact noee filed with respect to your bill -- and -- whatever that means. Senator Barkhausen. SENATOR BAREHAUSEN: Parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Presîdent. There seems ko be a new - - new procedure developing in -- in the last day or so that we haven't. so far as I know, seen here before. A fiscal note had been requested on this bill and was filed by the Department of Corrections. The content of the fiscal note also addresses any correctional and budqetary impact; and concludes by noting that l27 :  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24z 1989 the -- that this new provision in the Criminal Code would -- Would have no impact on the Department of Corrections. I would -- I ( would simply poink out that the fiscal note also addresses any -- I any correctional impact or budgetary impact ehat the bill might have, and I would submit that it -- it suffices as a budgetary impace note, or correctional impact note, as well as a fiscal note.

PRSSIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Well, Senator Barkhausen. Why donlt -- why don 't you and the Parliamentarian discuss it, and then, if that's *he caser well' that's the case. We'l1 be around. Senate Di11 401. Senator Etheredge. On the order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 401. 401, Senator Etheredge? Read the bill, Madam Secreeary.

Senate Bill 401. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the Bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Any amendments from the floor? SECRETARY HAWEER ) Senator Etheredge offerswo.l'n sorryy Senator Thomas Dunn I offers Amendment No. 1. I I ' PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) j I Senator Thomas Dunn 1 . I SENATOR T. DUNN: 1 I Thank you, Mr. President. This amendment Would cut the Arts l 1 Council budget by sixty-four thousand dollars, Which represents 1 l the amount they 9ot last year, and it would grant to the School of the Art Institute a one dollar amount of money. This is in response to the conductoftheSchooloftheArtInstitutelast winter. And it's the sponsorsl intent, my intent, to send a 1 I I message to theme that we aren't going to tolerate this kind of I l28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 I eonduct with our tax dollars. We often ask.oeask the question around here, ''Who's behind this bi1l?I' This bill is for the guys that slept in the mud. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Purther discussion? Senator Dudycz. SENATOR DUDXCZ: Thank you, Mr. President. Senator Dunny I agree with What you're trying to do, but I think that you're not going about it quite the right way. The one dollar funding to the Sehool of the Art Institute and to the Illinois Arts Alliance, I agree with you on. (Ran up the stairs. Yeah: I'm fine.) But by cutting the grant funding, Senator, you are depriving other art organizations the opportunity to receive suppore from the Arks Council. And what you're doin: is, you're punishinq the Arts Council as a.n as a group, and I don't think thae any of us want to do that. NoW I have an amendment Which will follow, which will keep the amounts. As a matter of fact, it adds two dollars. It Will gize one dollar to the Arks Alliance and one dollar to the school. I think that would be the right way to go. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. Further discussion? A1l riqht. If not, Senator Thomas Dunn may close. SENATOR T. DUNN: Thank you, Mr. President. Well, 1et me tell you Why ehat really isn't worth the paper it's written on, Senator. It's not worth anythinq because last year, if youlll recall, *he agencies gave merit comp raises to individuals against our intent. They also have the right under the 1aw to make a two percent transfer, without askin: anyone. And further, they have the right not to hire anybody, Senator Dudycz, and then spend the money any Way they want. And I don't want to leave it to a ehance. I want them to qet khe message clear. That it's sixty-four thousand dollars 129 j 1 I i I  STAT; OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 out of their hlde for tolerating this kind of conduct. And they only deserve one dollar, and the one dollar may be too much.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Dunn has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 401. Those in favor will indieate by saying Aye. Opposed Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. is adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senators Dudycz and Philip.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Dudycz.

Mr. President, can you read to me the.w.the LRB number?

SRA85S040lmbjram0l.

I'd like to cithdraw that amendnent.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A11 rîght. Senator Dudycz seeks leave to withdraw Amendment No. Leave is granted. Amendment No. 2 is wlthdrawn. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the SenaEe. Consistent With our effort to save approximately twenty-five million in the personal serviaes line by trimming, this would say that their new people would start at entry level. They had budgeted for them to start at higher than entry level. It would reduce some eighteen thousand two hundred dollars and I l30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll has moved ehe adoption of Amendment No. Is there discussion? Senator Stheredqe.

Will the Senator yield: please?

IRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator indicates he will yield. Senator Etheredge. SENATOR ETHEREDGEJ Iso..senakor, is this the.e.the so-called Democrakie quidelines amendment, the reductions in merit comp, the productivity increase and all of that?.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Senator Etheredge, as youlll noke as we go throuqh them, and I think from the copies youfve received: this separates the issues. This issue deals with entry level employees. New personnel coming in at the entry level only. That's all thatës in this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICKR: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Etheredge.

Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Would rise in opposition to thisg..this amendment, and I Would request a roll call at the appropriate time.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZTO) Al1 right. Purther discussion? Senator Carroll may close. SENATOR CARROLt: This is just ko say that When people come in to government service, they come in at an entry level. We 'd be wasting money Eo.sebe qiving them more money than that. We need that money for things like education and menkal health. I Would urge support of l3l  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENCRAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th LegkBlative Day May 24e 1989 this amendment: that merely says that people who come into service come in at an entry level, and that inaccurate bud:eting above that just doesn't make fiscal sense.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 401. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have'a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted who Wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, the Aye: are 29. The Nays are 29. None voting present. Amendment No. 2 fails. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. Presidenty Ladies and Gentlemen of khe Senate. Senator Etheredge, this may have been the one you were talking about. This would be the productivity amendment, that says that When Doctor Bob always froze two percent of was not available to be used for things like mental health, public aid, education, the war on drugs. This says that We would take half of that, Which would have been saved anyway, and require that there be a one percent reduction across the board. It's an amount of ten thousand dollars, and use those funds collectively. Again' roughly some eighteen million dollars, to provide for the necessary services of state government within existing revenues. I Would move it: adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 3. Is there discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Thank you: Mr. Presidenkr Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. l32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENENAL ASSEMRLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24s 1989 I rise in opposition to thks amendment and I...onee again: I would request a roll call at the appropriate time.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Carrolls do you wish to close? All right. The question is.yxsenator Carroll has moved the adoptkon of Amendment No. 3, Senate Bill 401. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The votinq is open. Have all voked who wish? Have a11 voeed who wish? Have a1l voted Who wish? Have all voted Who wish? Have all voted Who wish? Take the record. On that questionz the Ayes are 28. The Nays are 29. None voting present. Amendment No. 3 fails. Further amendmenes?

Amendment No. 4 oEfered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. This amendment is similar to our other amendments: freezing some operating lines to the 1Y89 spending levels. The.n we reduce it by thirty-nine thousand dollars GRP.

PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIQ) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Thank youp Mr. President. I rioe in oppoaition ko this amendment, and once again Would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? If not, Senator Severns may close.

I would just urge adoption. Once again: We're applying these kind of spending guidelines to al1 budgeks. Denocratic budgets. Republican budgets. Across the board. Attempting to recognize tbat schools are more important than expanding skake bureaucracy. l33  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Severns has moved the adoption of Amendment No . 4 to Senate B&ll 401. Those in favor will voke Aye. Those opposed: Say. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take khe record. On that question, the Ayes are 29. The Nays are 29. None voting present. Amendsent No. 4 fails. Fureher amendments?

Amendment No. 5 offered by Senator Thomas Dunn.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Thonas Dunn.

Thank you, Mr. President. Would you withdraw that amendmene, please?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A11 right. Senator Dunn seeks leave to Withdraw his amendment. Leave is granted. Amendment's withdrawn. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 5 offered by Senators Dudycz and Philip.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Dudycz.

Thank you, Mr. President: Members of the Senate. Amendment No. 5 deletes and rewrites Section 2. The amendment breaks out a separate line item for the School of the Art Institute of Chicago and the Illinois Arts Alliance Foundation, with a fiscal 1990 funding level of one dollar for each. The purpose of Amendment No. 5 is to ensure that the Arts Council will follow the legislative intent of sanctioning the school and the Arts Alliance for supporting the desecration of the American Flag. Now since the line items are grants, and the Council Was unable to transfer funding into the Alliance withoute I stress without, legislatlve l34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 approval, and a simple reduction kn grant funding would not constrain the Council from funding the School of the Ares Alliance, as Senator Dunn mentioned earlier. Bu* Senakor Dunn's amendment: in fact, deprives other art organizations the opportunity to receive support from the Arts Council. And the punishment is nok limited strictly to the Alliance or to the School of tbe Art Instktute, but kt's to a11 the arts groups that are involved with the Arts Council. I would request a roll call on Amendment No. 5.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Discussion? Senator Dudycz has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 5. Senator Rock.

Question of the sponsor, if helll yield: Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Indicates he Will yield. Senaeor Rock.

What, Senator, was the amount that these tWo organizations received last fiscal year or this fiscal year, please?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Dudycz.

In Fiscal 1989, the Illinois Arts Council gave a grant to the school of sixty-four thousand, six hundred and seventy-nine. Currently, as far as the Arts Alliance, they were to receive approximately kwenty thousand.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator D'Arco.

Thank yous Mr. President. You know I don't understand what Senator Dudycz is all about. I really donft. I probably never wille and maybe thatls good. ïou know, We passed a bill here that l35  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 said it Was a crime to desecrate a flag that's displayed on the floor. We made our point. We said we thought the Artsp the...the...llm sorry..awe thought the Art Institute Was wrong in What they did. How far do *e have to go to make the point? We got to.p.we :ot to punish them now. Qhey may have made a mtstake kn judgment. They may have made a mistake in judgment. That's one thing. They didnft deliberately intend to desecrate the American Flag. We a1l know that. So, if they made a mistake, they saidzddHey We stand up and we adnit this may have not been the right thing to do.'' That's not enough for Senator Dudyczy though . Wetve :ot to retaliate. We've got to put them down. Make them...make khem less than what they are. Well, Senator Dudycz, that's not the way to operate Skaee Governnent. Government should be tolerant, understandinq: compassionate. What you're doing is wronq. And you better learn that, pal.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? IE not, Senator Berman, I beg your pardon. Senator Berman.

Question of the sponsor.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Sponsor indicates he will yield. Senator Berman.

There are tWo agencies or two groups that you are deleting money from. Onels the School of the Art Institute. What is the other one, and what's their connection with the flag incident?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Dudycz.

The seeond group, Senakor Berman, is the IllinoiE Arts Alliance. They, up until recentlye Were the advocates for the Illinois Arts Council. And after this dispute regarding the 136  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989 American Fla: and the School of the Art Institute, they had discussions with the Illinois Arts Council, who specifically told them e 1lDo not get involved. Do not state a position. Stay out of this controversy.'' Thelr lobbyist, Mike Mcclain, resigned because they did not follow what the Arts Council requested, including the chairman, the executive director and the board of the Arts Council. They went ahead and they issued a statement of support for the artist and what he Was doing, thereby breakinq a11 ties as far as the Council was concerned. And the chairman has informed me...or the.e.the chalrman of the Arts Council has informed me that as of this...this moment, the Arts Alliance do not represent the Arts Council. We don't know What the future of ik will brinqz but as of right now, they have no ties with them.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Berman. END OF TAPE TAPE 4

(machine cutoffl...so the record is clear. Are you...are you telling me that the chairman of the Arts Council, Shirley Madiganz endorses a reduction ln funds for the Illinois Arts Alliance?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SEXATOR DEMDZIO) Senator Dudycz.

Senator, what I am saykng is that the Illknois Arts Counckl, includinq its chairman, does not object to my amendment as is. That includes the kithdrawing the tventy thousand something dollars Ehat were supposed to be going to the Illinois Art l37  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Alliance. The dispute, in fact, is between the Council and the Alliance. The Alliance decided that they 1ill go on their owne despite being advised quite strongly by al1 different areas of the Arts Council. They were telling them, f'Please stay out of thisr'' and they gave them speeific strong instructions, and they just defied them and just went on their own.

PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Berman.

Well, Senator Duoycz, I hear what you say, but 1...1 find it difficult to believe that there is no objection to this amendment by the chairman of the Arts Council. Let me tell you that from my point of view: personally, this dksturbs me to this extent, and correct me if I'm wronq. The art.oothe protesting veterans' groups went into the circuit court to enjoin the display. Walter, are you listenlng? The Ark Institute...l'm sorryz the veterans' groups went into the circuit court to get an injunction ko order khe Art Institutew..the School of the Art Institute Eo withdraw the display. And the court ruled that within the guidelines of free speech, they could not.o.the court could not order the school to remove the display. Is that true?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Dudycz.

Senator Berman, unlike the previous controversy regarding a painting of the late mayor. where the president of *he School of the Art Institute immediately.e.immediately issued a public apologyr admitted they were wrongz had full-page ads in the Chicago Sun-Times and the Chicago Tribune. As you can see, I have a copy of it; it says to khe Chicago community, apologizing for making a very serious mistake in offending a segment of the population. They atkempted to right a wrong in the first 138  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 instance. On this instance: they just were silent. PRSSIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Berman.

apologize, but you didn't hear my question, and I'd like an answer. Isn't it true that the veterans went into court to get a court order, ordering the Art Institute to remove the display: and the judge refused to order them, on the grounds of free speech. Isn 't that true? Yes or no?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Senator Dudycz.

That is not correct, Senator. What they requested was either the removal or *he roping off of the area. And the judge in his ruling stated specifically that that particular so-called Work of art was participatory, Where the public was urged to participate in it. Howeverg when I participated in it, as you know, was placed under arrest. Subsequently, other people were allowed to participate in it; it was allowed. What I believe, Senator Berman, is that the judqe that ruled on it misinterpreted the law. As you know, we as legislators, We make the laws. The judges, who are lawyers, interpret the laws, and it is my view, and apparently the view of the entire Senate, as we offered Senate Resolutionp passed unanimously, Senate Resolution Number 184. We agreed.

PRESIDING OEEICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) senakor Berman.

R11 rkght, 1'11 brkng my remarks to a elose. Let me just point out, we adopted Senate Resolution 184. We've just adopted Senator Dunn's amendment, 2nd I think that goin: further really goes beyond the realm of what al1 of us recoqnize as far as the eonstitutional rights o' free speech and free thought and free l39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 discussion. This has been tested in the courts; I may disagree with the judge or agree With the judge. But We are noW imposing a penalty for free association and free speech, not on the Art Institute, but on an Illinois Arts Alliance, a group of people that advocate for the arts. I think that goes beyond the realm of permissiveness and good taste on our part. We 've made our point. I think enough's enough. I urge a no vote on this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Tom Dunn.

Thank you, Mr. President. Senator Dudycz, you expressed concern about the cuttin: money from the other arts. Does not your amendment cut money from the Arts Alliance?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Dudycz.

In fact, Senator Dunn, if my amendment does not pass, the Illinois Arts Council will receive sixty-four thousand dollars less than with the amendment. With my amendmenty the Arts Council will, in fact: receive two dollars more than introduced. Your amendment: Senator Dunn, took out sixty-four thousand dollars from the Arts Council, and that is quite possibly what, Senator Berman, you should have been addressing. Not my amendment, but Senator Dunn's, which took away from the Council whatsoever. Mine gives it back to the Council, but it just forbids it from going more than one dollar to *he Arts Alliance or to the School of the Art Institute.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Dunn.

Senator, you are saying your amendment grants back the sixty-four thousand dollars to the Arts Alliance? l40  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24' 1989

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Senator Dudycz.

No# Senator Dunn, What my amendment in fact doei is adds two dollars to the budget as introduced. Your amendment withdraws sixty-four thousand dollars from the Arts Council itself.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Dunn. Further discussion? Senator Dudycz has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 5 to Senate Bill 401...1 beg your pardon, Senator Newhouse.

Thank youp Mr. President. My light was on....I suppose that this blinking machine is not working right aqain. I rise for the purpose of clearing my okn record, Mr. President. Out of a great deal of respect and comity with my colleague across the aisle, I raised no issue when this issue first came up; as a matter of fact, I voted with them because thought the opportunity to express outrage was appropriate. and I wanted to be supportive of that. I think wedve qone far beyond that now, and I didn't intend to speak on this. I think we've gone beyond that now to a punitive mode which I think is very unhealthy. We're in a situation now where we're going back to the o1d primitivism of beating up the artists. we're in a...in this day and age, We very much need al1 the creativity we can get; now We can disagree...we can disaqree on interpretation of the constitution, We can disagree on a lot of things. We can disagree on academic freedom , but here: it seems to me# we're deliberately injuring an institution that deserves our greatest amount of respect. That board of directors is in an extremely touchy position. They certainly want to avoid any scintilla of insulting any member of this Body ...of insulting any member of this Legislature. Their budgets have never been what they really needed, and never wkll l41  STAQE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Leqislative Day May 24, 1989 be. And noW we're talking about cutting khose budgets back and punishing them. I would suggest that if we in this Body, as much as respect my colleague, as much as I respect the bruised feelings, that we've gone far beyond what seems to me to be a rational response, and would urge that this amendment be withdrawn.

IRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Purther discussion? Senator Schaffer.

Frankly, Mr. Presidenkr and I rise in support of this amendmene, I do not have a whole lot of problems with the artist. guess artists are supposed to do their thing. My problem is with *he board members of the Art Institute, of the School of khe Art Institute, and this other organizationz which didn't have the common sense to have any sensitiviky to the communiey. Now, frankly, I was extremely offended by the Harold Washington picture. I thought that was in extremely poor taste. It wasn't art, it was garbage. This year's atrocity was equally offensive. This board has exercised no judgment. What's next year goin: to be? Anti-semitic? Anti-ltalian? What': next yearîs akrocity qoing to be? I don't think we need to sit by and 1et this happen. This board has...obviously has no sensitivity to the people of this State. We should not support them with the taxpayersê dollars. And by the way, there's money for this place in other budqets that we've missed. This is a small part of what they get from the SEate. Let's send them a message. Not Eo Ehe arEiskse ''Artists, do your thing.l' But to the board that runs this place, l'Use some common sense. Have a little sensitivity to the Wishes and the beliefs of the community that youq.osay youdre interested in and that you raise money from.'' If *e just sit back and say, '0h, gosh, it's just a frolicy''there'll be one atrocity after another. Let's send them a message they ean't miss. l42  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSZMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Leqislative Day May 24r 1989

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Dudycz may close.

Yes. Thank you, Mr. President. Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, in closing I1d just like to add that we passed out Senate Resolution 184, which requested tWo simple things of the School of the Art Institute. One, to issue a public apology just like they did the day after the Aldermen stormed the Art School and they skole the paintin: out of the school. The school, as a result...they issued a public apology and they printed it on full-page ads in the newspapers. We requested nothing less. That's number one. Number two, We requested a clarification of their policy, make ik public so the public will know how they will handle this type of matter in the future. They have not met that request either. I submit that they have been ignoring us, and I ask your support on this. PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Dudycz has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 5. Those in favor indicate by saying Aye. Opposed Nay. On tbe question, the Ayes have it. Amendment No. 5 is adopted. No. 5 is adopted.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senate Bill 402, on the order of 2nd Reading. Senator D'Arco, for what purpose do you arise?

(inaudiblel.o.doesn't want one. I will not be on record voting for an amendment as terrible as this one. Want a roll call, and if I have tos I would ask aE least four others of the members on this side of the aisle to stand up and vote With me against tyranny.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right, Senator Dudycz is.p.put it back on the board. It's l43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENEZAL AE:EMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 the first time I ever saw an amendment win and the sponsor wants a roll call. Okay. Senator Dudycz has moved the adoption of Amendment...which one was it?... 5, Senate Bill 401. Those in favor will vote Aye; those opposed Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take khe record. That question, the Ayes are 36, the Nays are l8, 3 voting present. Amendment No. 5 is adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator -- Senator Philip, for what purpose do you rise?

Point of personal privilege. I have sitting next to me in the Floor of the Senate my o1d friend Bill Redmond, who Was my running mate for some I hate Eo say it - twenty years. He was my counterpart in Dupage County. He was the Democrat County Chairman; I Was the Republican County Chairman. He's one super guy. As you know, he's on the Parole and Pardon Board in Illinoisr and he's always been a dear friend and a greak guy. Just like to have a little -- and, oh, excuse me, and he was the Speaker of the House for only one term. It's a shame he isn't still over on *he other side of *he rokunda. My good friende Bill Redmond.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. I -- I would point out that when the Speaker was in the -- Chamber, Speaker Redmond started out on the Demoeratic side of khe aisle before he drifted over. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 4024 Madam Secretary. Read the bill.

Senate Bill 402. 144  l STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBL: ! REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I i 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Carroll offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This amendnent does several things. One: it Would eliminate those projects that are dependent upon a cigarette taxz unless and until that tax were to pass. Second, it adds back some ten million dollars that the Governor took from the UDAG Program that had been sponsored by this side of the aisle and agreed to at that time. Third, it makes language changes in projects to correct errors or departments as normally done; and -- and finally, there were three projects that Members have asked for language changes, Davidson, O'Daniel and del Vallez in Which there is no dollar impact, but the normal language changes that we do on a1l occasions as this is going through. I would move adoption of Amendmenk No. 1.

PRESIDINC OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Amendmenk No. 1. Is there discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senaee. I rise ln oppositàon to this amendment and I Would request a roll call at the appropriate time.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? If not: Senator Carroll may close.

l45 I  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35*h Legislative Day May 24s 1989 Thank you. I find the opposition on the other side of the aisle illuninating. It appears to be based on no fact, and I find that curious, because if there is discussion, then we should have open and honest discussions. If there's a problem with it I wish we could know about 'cause when there are problems, we are prepared to try and deal with them; and I kould urge a favorable vote.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 402. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who Wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted Who wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 29, the Nays are 29: none voting Present. Amendment No. l fails. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Eelly.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Kelly.

Thank youg Mr. President. I move to Table Floor Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Kelly, why don't you just move to Withdraw Amendment No. 2. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. Amendment No. 2 is withdrawn. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Weleh.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Senator Welch.

I'd ask to Withdraw that amemdment. 146 k I 1 1 STATEOF ILLINOIS 1 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislakive Day May 24, 1989 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Senator Welch seeks leave to withdraw Amendment No. 2. Leave is granted. Amendment's Withdrawn. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Kelly. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Kelly. SENATOR KELLY: Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. This amendment Would transfer previously appropriated Build Illinois funds for a hundred and fifty thousand dollars from Ehe Village of Phoenix on water programs, to the Village of Burnham of -- for a water tower. Both of these communities are within my district. This is not new money, and I would solicit your support. PRESIDING OEEICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Is there discussion? Senator Kelly has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 402. Those in favor will indicate by sayin: Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No . 2 is adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Welch. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH: Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 3 tracks, whereas the previous amendmen: I withdrew did not. Whak this amendment will dop is add ïn a Science and Technology Project in Northern Illinois University, Faraday Hall, which has been approved by one of the Governor's panels on science projects. I Would move for the adoption of Ehe amendmenE. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. Senator Welch has moved the adoption of Amendment l47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSTON SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 No. 3. Is tbere discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Mr. President. I rise in opposition to this amendment, for the reason that -- if thls amendment addresses just the one project within the Senator's district. I have filed an amendment that includes this project, Senator, and al1 the others that have been identified as belonging on the priority list by the Board of Higher Education. would request that this amendment be withdrawn.

PRESIDING QFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Welch may close.

Well I haven't seen Senator Etheredge's amendment, if includes NIU -- T -- Lf thak's all does, I'd have no objection, but -- if -- a11 it does is include the list of projects, and nothing else, o.otmachine cutoffl..ol'd withdraw my amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. Senator Welch has -- sought leave to Withdraw Amendment No. 3. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. So ordered. Purther amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank your Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This amendment deals with that part of the other one I had discussed, where the DDAG grants that had been committed to# and passed this General Assembly, be transferred back into that category from the small business line, and transfers the ten million back to DDAG. would move its adoption. PRESIDING QFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIOJ l48  STATE 0F ILLINOIS ' ' 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY . REGULAR SESSION I SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 3. Is there discussion? Senator Etheredge. SENATOR ETHEREDGE: Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I rise in opposition to this amendment. What it does is to remove funding for the small business and large business programs, and also for the Science and Technology Programs and, in essence, moves this money into the City of Chicago. I think all of us from downstate ought to be opposed to this. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A1l right. Senator -- Senator Carroll may close. SENATOR CARROLL: Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. As we had' indicated before, this is monies that were originally allocated under Build Illinois under the caucus system. This ten million was UDAG granks. The Governor has sought to transfer them; welre transferring them back to that which had been committed to when the project went through. I would move its adoption. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 402. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who Wish? Take the record. On that question the Ayes are 30, the Nays are 28. Amendment No. 3 is adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator O 'Daniel. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Dudycz, for what purpose do you rise? SENATOR DUDYCZI Point of personal privilege, Mr. President. l49 I  STATC OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENA'E TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24y 1989

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) State your point.

Mr. Presidentz I don't know what's qoing on around here, but you know, like we've had in the past, I pressed the green button on my amendment, on -- Amendment No. and it's not recorded. It's not recorded officially. I don't understand why this is. We've been havinq that problem quite a bit. I'd like the record to reflect that I did press the Yes button, it did light up and it's not recorded on the transcript.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SZNATOR DEMUZIO) Well. Senator Dudycz, I donft wish to enter into thise but gave every opportunity for every Member to vote afeer you had requested -- or after the request was made for a a electronic vote. I must admit, sir, thae you must have pushed your speak button because didn't register here either, and I was kind of surprised that you dldn ': vote on your anendment, bu* I wasn 't Senator Dudycz.

Mr. President, I objecte and I'm offended that you are -- are referring or saying that I pressed the speak button instead of the -- the Yes button. Now I clearly pressed the Yes button and it did not record. Now I don't know what's going on around here. This is not the first time it's happened to many of us. I strongly urge that you have the electrician please check the -- the butkonse because otherwise this is golng to be going on fron now until the end of Session.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) didn't wish to enter into this as -- but I have. Senator Schaffer.

Well, actually: I think this has happened to several of us and l50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 I think I know What's going on, particularly when you have a bill youfre interested in you're ealling. ïoufre sitting with your finger on your button watching the board, and you pushed the button before it's open and that doesn't register, and that's what's happening and, frankly, it happened to me on one of my bills. It's happened to several of us - even -- even Senator Carroll - and I'm just Warn the Members that you've got to push and 1et up and make sure the green light is on. It's a neW system, has some advantages, has some disadvantages.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) I -- I've been caught a few times myself, I've admitted to it, but I -- next case -- 1'11 check it myself tonight. I haven't the foggiest idea what's it's about, but 1111 check it. Purther amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator O'Daniel.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator O 'Daniel.

Thank you, Mr. Presidenk and Members of the Senate. This is a four hundred and fifty thousand dollar fund transfer. It's -- it's not any additional funding. There was four hundred thousand left in a sewer project in Mt. Vernon, fifty thousand in a civic center planning grant, and this money would be transferred over to be used to build a -- an Economie Commission Visitors Bureau and a -- Development Corporation Bukldkns in Mt. Vernon. Appreciate a favorable roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator O 'Daniel's noved the adoption of Amendment No. 4. Is there discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Mr. President. Senator, the concerns thak your l5l  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24: 1989 amendment addresses are -- we have, also, incorporated into the amendment Which we -- which r have followed and Will follow shortly, I do believe. I wonder if you would be willing to withdraw that, so that -- there wontt be any -- as Senator Welch did?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator O 'Daniel.

Are you sure you have an amendment that will take care of this? If you're sure you have an amendment, and you give me your word youdll take care of then withdraw this.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Etheredge.

Senator, you have my word. I am -- I am informed Ehak khese concerns have, indeed, been addressedz and you have my word.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator O 'Daniel.

Senator Etheredge, what else is in that amendment?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Etheredge.

Oh. These are the nineteen additional projects that have been approved by the Board of Higher Education as -- they Were not included in the original appropriation because the numbers were not yet available. No, pardon me. There are nineteen total projects, not -- not additional projects. What I am concerned about, and the reason that I am makin: this request of you, I'm afraid that there are going to be some of us on the Floor who are very -- who attach a great deal of importance to those other projects, and I'd like to get all the projects into this Build l52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GCNERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Leqislative Day May 24, 1989 Illinois Program. Not just one or two or three of them.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator O'Daniel.

Yes. We're trying to find out where this -- where's -- here -- here Wedve got someone coming over. ..otmachine cutoffl...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator O 'Daniel.

Welre in discussion. Just a minute, please. ...lmaehine cutoffl...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator O 'Daniel.

Senator Etheredge. I -- I would like to go with my amendment kf. you knowy it's -- it's khe same amounke if you don't really have any objection.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A1l right. Senator Etheredqe. SENATOR ETHEREDGE; would have no objection to that at al1 Senator, if I were not concerned about placing the other projects in jeopardy; those that have not been offered -- Well the one that Was offered by Senator Welch earlier on# and the others for -- for which no amendment has been prepared. Now, if the decision is going to be that the amendmenE that I'm qoing Eo offer later is going to track, then T guess we don't have 'a problem, but that is my concern, Senator.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All right. Senator O'Daniel.

believe 1'11 hold it and go with you. Got your word. Okay? l53  STATE OE ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSKMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Al1 right. Withdraw the amendment, Madam Secretary. Al1 right. Amendment No. 4 -- or is -- Senator del Valle. Yeah. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator del Valle.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator del Valle. SENATOR DEL VALLE) Thank youz Mr. President. This is a technical amendment changing the language on tWo current appropriations for the Job Training Center. This may have also been added. Was it?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Etheredge.

Senator del Valle, this is precisely the same situation that We had with Senator Welch and Senator o'Daniel. And I Would make -- we also have included this language into our amendment; and I I would make the same request of youy Senatorr if you would consider it: please.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator del Valle.

-- withdraw the amendment. PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR D'ARCO) Al1 right. The amendment is withdrawn. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Etheredge.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Al1 right. Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Etheredge. Senator Etheredge. 154  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMRLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the amendment that we've been talkinq about; and it does include the changes that have been requested by Senator de1 Valle, Senator O'Daniel, Senator Welch and a number of others that have projects that you're interested in. I Would move for its adoptkon.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All right. Any discussion? If not, Senator Etheredge moves the adoption of Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 402. Al1 those in favor, say Aye. A11 those opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment 402 is adopted. Amendment 4 to Senate Bill 402 is adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 5 offered by Senator Donahue.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Donahue. Amendment No.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is a -- has no dollar change; just redirects a hundred and thirty-three thousand dollars from a sewer project, which is not needed, to WI University for asbestos removal for one of their halls. I would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All right. Any discussion? If notz Senator Donahue has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 5 to Senate Bill 402. A11 Ehose in favor, say Aye. All those opposed, Nay. The Ayes have Amendment No. to Senate Bill 402 is adopted. Hold ik. We want a roll call on this? Amendment No. 5 is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments. l55  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Do you Want a -- you want a roll call, Vince? Let's have a roll call. Madam Secretaryr light up the board. Amendment No. 5. Have all voted Who wished? Have all voted Who Wished? Senator Donahue has moved the adoption of Amendment :o. 5. Have a11 voted who wished? Have a11 voted who wished? Have all voked who wished? Take the record. On that question: there are 30 Ayes, 27 Nays: none voting Present. Amendment No. 5 to Senate Bill 402 is adopted. Any further amendments, Madam Secretary?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) 3rd Reading. Senator Collinsz for what purpose do you rise?

I -- I -- I move to reeonsider -- I inadvertently hit my switch wrong and -- and having voted on the prevailkn: side, I wish to reconsider the vote by Which that amendment was adopted.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A1l right. Senator Collins has moved to reconsider the vote by which Amendment No. to Senate Bill 402 was adopted. Al1 those in favor, vote Aye. All those opposed, vote Nay. The votin: is open. Eave a1l voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted Who wish? Have all voted Who Wished? A11 right. On khat -- take the record. On that questionr there are 30 Ayes, 28 Nays and none votin: Present, and Amendment No. 5 is reconsidered . senator -- moves to Table Amendment No. 5. Is khat what you want to do? You want to Table the amendment, Senator Collins? Good. Senator Collins moves to Table Amendment No. 5. A11 right. Have al1 voted who wished? I mean - those in favor, vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wished? Have al1 voted Who Wished? Have a1l voted Who wished? Have all voted who wished? Take the record. On that l56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 question, there are 29 Ayes, 29 Naysz none voting Present, and the motion fails. Now. Senator Donahue. No, we -- we -- do you want to move to adopt again? Yes. Senator Geo-Karis.

Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. When the Motion to Table Senator Donahue's amendment failedy her amendment still is on the books.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) No.

The heck, you say.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) We reconsidered the vote by Which it passed .

Yes. And then you made a Motion to Table her amendment and it failed . Check your records.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Why don't you move to adopt, Senator Donahue? All right. Senator Donahue moves to adopt Amendment No. 5 to Senake BIl1 402. A1l those in favor, vote Aye. A1l those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted Who wished? Have al1 voted Who wished? Have all voted who Wished? Take the record. On khat question, there are 29 voting Aye, 29 voting Nay, none voting Present, and the motion fails. Senate Bill 403. Senator Donahue: for what purpose do you rise?

I'd like to ask for a verification for all that.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A11 right. Senator Donabue has requested a verification of the negative votes. Will everyone be in their seats. Madam Secretary, will you please read the roll -- of the --

l57 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENCRAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 The following Members v'oted in the negative: Senator Alexander, Bernan, Brookins, Carroll, Collins, Daley, D'Arcoy del Valle, Demuziog Thomas Dunn, Hall, Holmberg, Jacobs, Jones, J.J. Joyceg Kelly, Lechowicz, Luft, Marovitz, Netsch, Newhouse, O'Daniel, Rear Severnse Smithz Vadalabeney Welch, Zito and Mr. Presidene.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A11 right. Senator Donahue. Senator Geo-Karis, what purpose do you rise?

Point of parliamentary inquiry. I would like to address this to your Parliamentarian. Show me where in khe rules that We have, when once a Motion to Table is defeated, that the amendment doesn't stay in effect? Please show it to me.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) There was a -- a Motion to Reconsider, Senator Geo-Karis. Would you put Senator Geo-Karis on, please.

Al1 right. Because there was a Motion to Reconsidery which took place. but then the Motion to Table it did not. So the -- the -- I submit that the amendment Was still on.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Yeah. But the Motion to Reconsider carried.

To have it reconsidered, that's all.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) So the vote was reconsidered. Let's go -- Senator Donahue, you question the presence of any Senator?

No.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A1l riqht. The roll has been verified, and *he motlon fails. l58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legkslative Day May 24p 1989 Senate Bill 403. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 403. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Etheredge. Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 404. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKERI Senate Bill 404. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Carroll offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All right. Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the senate. This would bring ehe personnel to the entry levelg reducing the personal services line, anC the hirings to accommodate to what we had suggested as guidelines. It's a hundred and sixty-seven thousand dollars of unnecessary spending. To keep government from expanding. does not touch any existing personnel and once aqain helps us provide that portion of the twenty-five million dollars to fund educationz to fund mental l59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24p 1989 health, to fund rehabilitation services, to fund the war on drugs. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Etheredge.

Will the Senator yield?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) He indicates he will yield.

Senator, could you give me the total dollar reduction?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Carroll.

Yes, Senator Etheredge. These are the thirty-one neW positions we gave them, and we want them at the entry level. It's a hundred and sixty-three thousand seven hundred dollars. PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR D'ARCOI Senator Etheredge.

Welly Senator, -- have -- I will rise in opposition to your anendment, then. I have a following amendment Which Wkl1 make a reduction of right at four hundred thousand dollars. So I -- so I would ask that this amendment be defeatedrso that We could consider my larqer reduction in this budget. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCOI Al1 right. SenaEor Carroll, Eo close. Senator Carroll, ko close.

Well, Senator Etheredge, if you could explain to us: you know, we had asked if we could see some of these. What Would your amendment do? Maybe we can accommodate you. This one merely dealt with bringing these people in at linez whereas you know, l60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENEKAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 'cause wetve -- welve given you copies, the next one would take some of khe other funds and so on. We tried to do them all separately. Maybe if you can explain what you 're proposing, We'd be prepared to deal with it. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO): Al1 right. Senator Etheredge.

Well. Senator, I -- we have given you copies of our amendments with explanations as to What our amendments would -- Would accomplish. So, that -- you already have these in your hands, Senator.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A11 right. You already had them in your hands. Senator Carroll, to close.

Well, thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senator Etheredge seems unwilling to answer what the rest of it would do. At this point We are seeking to take these positions -- and reduce them by the hundred and sixty-three thousand seven hundred dollars, so that the positions wedve allowed them, would, in fact, be filled at, basically, the entry level; and I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All right. Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 404. A1l those in favor, vote Aye. A1l khose opposede vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wished? Have a11 voted Who Wished? Take the record. On that question, there are 29 Ayes, 29 Nays, none voting Present. And Amendment No. l fails. Amendment No. 2. Senator Carroll.

Thank you. Mr. PresidenE and Ladies and Genklemen of Ehe l6l  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Senate. Amendmenk No. reduces the personal services line to eliminate twelve brand neW positions over the thirty-one they have not yek filled. This would be a reduction of three hundred and ten thousand dollars. I Would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SCNATOR D'ARCO) Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition to this amendment; and Would request a roll call at the appropriate time.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A11 right. A roll call has been requested. Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 404. A1l those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted Who wished? Have a11 voted who wkshed? Have all voted who wished? Have al1 voted Who Wished? Take the record. On that question, there are 29 Ayes, 29 Nays, none voting Present. Amendment No. 2 fails. Amendment No. 3. Senator Carroll. Read the amendment, Madam Secrekary.

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Carroll.

Thank youz Kr. Preskdent and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This amendment would impose that one-percenk productivity *e had talked about, where Dr. Bob had always frozen their budgets by two percent. This would take half of that to make it available for the spending needs of the State; and I Would move its adoption. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO): Senator Etheredge.

l62  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24p 1989 Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senaee. I Would rise àn opposition to this amendment, and would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A roll call has been requested. Senator Carroll moves ehe adoption of Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bil1 404. All those in favor, vote Aye. Al1 those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted kho wished? Have al1 voted Who wished? Have a1l voted Who wished? Have a11 voted who wished? Take the record. On thae question, there are 29 Ayes, 29 Nays, none voting Present. And Amendment No. 3 fails. Any further amendmentsy Madam Secretary?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Severns, on Amendment No. 4.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of khe Senate. Amendment No. 4 -- it just simply follows the guidelines that Welve established to a1l budgets in the Stater trying to bring operations back down from the tWelve-pereent increase that the Governor's requested, to an increase that -- to a level that includes FX'89 spending levels. This particular amendment would total twelve thousand six hundred dollars; and I would move for its adoption. In the operating lines. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENRTOR D'ARCOI Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I rise in opposition to this amendment. do have a followinq amendment which will accompllsh the same objective. I would ask for a roll call. l63  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A roll call has been requested. Senator Severns moves the adoption of Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 404. Al1 those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who Wished? Have a1l voted Who wished? Have all voted Who wished? Take the record. On that question, there are 28 Ayes, 29 Nays, none voting Present. Amendment No. 4 fails. Any further amendments, Madam Secretary?

Amendmenk No.5 offered by Senator Etheredge. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCOJ Senator Etheredqe.

Thank you, Mr. Preskdent, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is a -- an amendment which reduces the budqet for the CDB a total of four hundred and eleven thousand dollars, three hundred and eighty-seven thousand khree hundred of which is GRF. It eliminates twelve new positions. The salary increases for merit compensation and professkonal exempt personnel are held to four percent as of January The retirement and Social Security line items are reduced proportionately. The CDB Revolving Fund operation lines are held to a ten percent increase over the PY'89 appropriation levels. The group insurance is reduced to reflect the reduction of twelve positions. And other minor cuts are offered that total sixty-four hundred dollars. All CDB Revolving Fund cuts, except qroup insurance and printing, are taken from GRF. I would ask for favorable consideration of this amendment.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Etheredge has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 5. Any discussion? Any discussion? If not, all those in favor, say Aye. All those opposed, say Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 5 is adopted. Any further amendments, Madam Secrekary? l64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 405. Senator Etheredge. Any committee amendmentsz Madam Secretary?

Senate Bill 405. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No. committee amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICDR: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any Floor amendments?

Senator Carroll offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Carroll. Amendment No.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No. l is because there has been a lack of information on a long-term plan for What's called khe Capitol Conplex. Therefs been a number bandied around of some one hundred fifty million dollars to be spent within what's now the Capitol Complex. This would be the first 14.6 million dollars for projects We know not about. And I say I'we,''meaning the General Assembly; or whae they will aecomplish at a time When there is significant discussion also of aequirinq okher properties in Springfield, in Chicaqo, and elsewhere in the State to aceommodate Staee employees where we are noW leasing those properties. There clearly has not been what is required, and that is a five-year plan and what it willy in fact, accomplish. We are advised that there are significant millions of dollars, for example, to build parklng ranps around here, significant millions of dollars to do things like planEing flowers and krees around here. All at a time 165  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 when we don't know what the totality of a11 is. Additionally: there are some unknown sites for locations that We have brought down to planning money. And I would move adoption of Amendment Xo. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Carroll has moved adoption of Amendment No. 1. Any discussion? Senator Keats.

I appreciate it, Mr. President, and I say to Senator Carroll, I khink there's a misunderstanding on your amendment. Two Members of the Democrat Leadership, Members -- two Republiean Members - I'm one - we sit on the Space Needs Commission. We've been meeting on this issue for a year and a half to two years. We've had public meetings. We've had private meetings. We've had drafts. Members of the Democrat Leadership are involved with that. I Would just say that I appreciate -- perhaps someone has forgotten to tell you, but we've been at this for years. This is not something new , and -- I don't know why you don lt have the information, but boy, I mean, it's reams and reams. I've got drawers full of thls stuff. Draft afker drafe. Year afker year. Thls is no secret. This is years old with leadershipy House, Senate, Republicane Democrat, myself and others. It -- this is not a a hidden item. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO): Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President. rise in stronq suppork of Floor Amendment No. There's not a one of us Who doesn't constantly talk about the need to put more money into education, more money into drug fightin: proqrams, more money into mental health and other vital needs areas. This is a place where we can do it. The reality is: with -- With the amount that is involved here, and the l66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Leqislakive Day May 24, 1989 debt service involved, we're talking about serious dollars. Serious dollars to landscaping, serious dollars to parking ramps, serious dollars to parking garages, and We can put it there; or we can put our money where our mouth has been. Vote for this amendment and have khe ehance to reallocate it to the vital needs of this State. I would urqe adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All right. Senator Etheredge.

Will the Senator yield?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) He indicates he will.

Senator: could you give me a bottom line as to what the effeet of your amendment would be?

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All right. Senator Carroll.

Yes. Thank youe Mr. President. Senator Etheredge, this is ten million dollars eight hundred thousand reduction, and would just suqgest, while I have the mikep to Senator Keats: this is not within the purview of the Space Needs Commission. So that We have not had knowledge of the totality of the plan. lt's my understanding that they are required, by law, to give a five-year-plan - and have not done so - to the General Assembly. Space Needs is a different issue than the Capitol Complex Plan.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Al1 right. Senator Etheredge.

Well. am getting information as to the content of of this from -- from two dàfferent directions. One of the questions have, is there planning money for a -- a new prison that is -- l67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENZRAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 that is removed via your amendment?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Carroll. SENATOR CARROLLI We -- no, that is not correct. Planning money is in there for a new women's medium security prison -- or minimum security prison.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All right. Senator Keats.

Just a correction: Senator Carroll. I appreciate it. It is not Space Needs itself, the membership of this commission was taken from Space Needss so has gone through Space Needs. It's public and private. We have private sector members, Republicans, Democratsz House, Senate, the whole works: Ehe Deputy Governor -- to -- again, private sector menbers; but the legislative Members came from Space Needs. Thakls why I brought up their role.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A11 right. Senator Carroll, to close.

Would seek adoption of Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator'carroll has moved the adoption of Amendment No. eo Senate Bill 405. Those in favor, vote Aye, say Aye -- those in favor, say Aye -- vote Aye. Those opposede vote Nay. The votin: is open. Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted Who wish? Have all voted Who Wished? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 30 Ayes, 27 Nays, none voeing Present, and Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Rea.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) l68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Senator Rea, Amendment No. 2.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment 3 or No. 2 rather, includes three projects which certainly ties into tourism economic development. One is a very historic -- oldest county fairgrounds in the State, which is historic, and also the historic preservation of a halfway house, which is a trail between Old Shawneetown and St. Louis, which is very historic. And a -- then a community building in a Village of Akin, and I would move for adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All right. Senator Etheredge.

Well, Senator, if I understand this amendment, We are, after listening to an impassioned -- plea for freeing up money for the war on drugs, and education, and a11 of these thinqs -- and here we turn around and we're puttin: money into Stake fairgrounds and thinqs like that. I -- I Would ask for a No vote on ehis amendmene and, at the appropriate time, a roll callz Mr. Presidene.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All right. Senator Rea, to elose.

Thank youz Mr. President. In fact only seventy-five thousand of thak is General Revenue and I -- let me point out to you khat this is economic developnent. I happen to be in a area where we do have double-digit unemployment, and this ties tight in to the overall tourism and economic development program.

PRESIDING OFFIPER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A11 right. Senator Rea's moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 405. A1l those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wished? Have al1 voted Who wish? Have all voted who wished? Take the reeord. On l69  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Leqislative Day May 24, 1989 that question, there are 29 -- 30 Ayesz 26 Nays, none voting Present, and Amendment No. is adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Kelly.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Kelly. Amendment No. 3.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Amendment No. 3 -- Floor Amendment No. 3 provides a one-million-dollar appropriation for school construction and improvements at the Lincoln Elementary School in Calumet City. This sehool hasw for many years now, been havin: great difficulties in passing referendums in any way. I would appreciate your support in allowinq this little school to :et this million dollars to do this gymnasium renovation.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A1l right. Any discusslon? Senator Maitland.

Senator. They -- they can't pass referendums: like the rest of us do, to build neW buildings, so we're goin: to come to the State. Is khere a particular need here? Is the building in bad repair? Is that what the problem is?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Kelly.

Yes, it is. It's in bad repair. It has been for many years and it's Just a -- an improvement that's been needed for many, many years, and -- they 've asked me to sponsor this appropriation, and I do it proudly.

PRESIDING UFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All riqht. Senator Maitland.

170  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legkslative Day May 24, 1989 Yes. Senator have you -- have they thought about Life Safety Bonds? Has that -- is that Window of opportunity been used?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator -- Senator Kelly.

I don't believe that I know that answer to that question. I don't know if they've gotken into it. They said they needed the help directly from the State, that they have not I don't know if theydve explored thak. I didn't ask them that questions and I can't answer that.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All right. Senator Maitland.

Senator: I Would suggest that perhaps We explore some other opporkunities, locally, before we come to the General Assembly and ask the General Assembly to -- to rebuild or remodel a building. You know, we have a mechanism in this State -- We have a mechanism -- we have a mechanism in this State to deal with somethin: like this and -- and throough the Capitol Assistance Act, and I would suggest, very strongly, that they -- they they go that route. There have been a nunber of buildings that -- Where there has been Seate assistance and that's the way we ought to do it; but not to cone and erode the State funds with special interest projects back home. This ought to be defeated.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (GENATOR D'ARCO) A1ï right. Senator Kelly moves the adoptkon of Amendment No. 3 ko Senate Bill 405. Al1 those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have all voted who wished? Have al1 -- take the record. On thak question, 31 votin: Aye, 25 Nay: none voting Present, and Amendment No. 3 is adopEed. Amendmene No. 4. Senator Welch. Senator Welch. Read the bill: Madam -- read the l71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENSRAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 amendment, Madam Secretary. SECRETARï HAWKER: Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Welch.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Welch.

Thank you, Mr. President. The list of Board of Hkgher Education priority projects Went to a certain level this year, and then shut off. The tWo projects that Were left out Were two projects that were extremely needed and valuable. 0ne was Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville, and one was at Kishwaukee College in my district. This amendment would add five million dollars to the budget to take care of those two projects. I Would move for adoption of Amendment --

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All right. Senator Welch moves for adoption of Amendment No. 5. Any discussion? If not, those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 5 is adopted. Was that 4? I'm -- strike that. Amendment No. 4 is adopted. Amendment No. Senator de1 Valle. Senator de1 Valle. Amendment No. 5. A11 right. Senator de1 Valle. Amendment No. 5, Madan Secretary. Turn On --

This amendment approprkates ten million from the School Construction Bond Fund to Chicago school districts for the construction of demountables. Each subdistricE will receive a hundred and twenty-five thousand to relieve overcrowding. I move for the adoption of this --

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Al1 righk. Senator del Valle has moved the adoption of Amendment No. Any discussion? Senator Etheredge.

172  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legkslative Day May 24, 1989 Well, Mr. President. In an effort to -- to be brief, I will rise in oppositkon to this amendment for some of the reasons that have been stated on some of the other -- the other school amendments that -- have been presented. Would request a No vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of Ehe Senate. To add to what Senator del Valle said, wWhen we created the School Construction Bond Funds, there was an allocation of how much Was for Chicago and how much was for downstate. There's ten million remaining in the Chicago account. Chicago schools have been experiencing overcrowding in some eighty different schools throughout the Ckty of Chkcago. In all -- kn a11 in all of their districts. Each of the subdistricts Would receive funds, because each school that is overcrowded: according to the Chicago Board of Education list, Would receive one demountable classroom from the State of Illinois. This is the newest form of construckion that has Worked extremely Well in providing an inexpensive form of adding to a school's population at that school, instead of going through building other schools in other areas. Each of our districts are affected, every Member of the General Assembly. And each school that Was overcrowded Was treated equally under this amendment. I would urqe its support. It is Chicago 's allocation of Cbicago's portion of khe funds. And this Would go a long Way towards starting a program that Chicago would have to add money to, wiehout question. If theydre going Eo solve the total problem. But everybody's schools are overcrowded: in each of our dlstricts, and each of them Would participate in this. And I would urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) l73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Al1 right. Senator Ekheredge.

Will the Senator yield?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) The sponsor of the amendment or Senator Carroll?

Senator Carroll, if I could.

PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Carroll. He indicates he will yield.

Senator, you spoke to the question of the formula before. May ask you, does the formula that has been put together for khe distribukion of this funds for these funds, does that formula include Chicago? PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senakor Carroll.

Yes. I assume -- I'm not sure exactly What youdre asking, but these are Chicaqo's overcrowded schools. From the Chicago portion of the Construction Bonds.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Maitland.

Well. Thank you: Mr. President. Just to go a bit further, Senator. Senator Carroll, we understand the distribution of the Construction Bonds. Our question isg as bappened in Senator Rea's district, you know, there's a formula we use that dekermines local amount and stake amount when we are building or remodeling. And we're simply asking you, are we just using this a1l on one project? Is there is there local assistance? And if -- are you accessing the formula?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DIARCO) 174  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86Eh GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENKTE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Senator Carroll. I

I don't think I can answer you quite the way youbre askîng the . I question because -- this is not a formula driven issue, as this is appropriated. Let me explain. Let me -- give me a moment. There are eighty schools throughout Chicago: Bateman, Henry, Hibbard, Volta, Armstrong, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. The list came from the Chicago Board of Ed. Each of these schools are overcrowded by either federal court criteria, or Board of Ed criteria, or something. It is our understanding, from dealing with the Chicago Board of Edz that they could not build a one school unit - demountablez one classroom. This provides funding for one classroom at each of these schools. The city Board of Ed would have to provide khe additional funding. They are generally built in three to six classroom modules, depending upon the amount of overcrowding. Three seems to be the smallest they can build. This, therefore, Would provide one third of the funds towards solving the problem of overcrowding at that specific school: by providing the funds for one of those three classrooms. They cannot build one alone. So, in the sense, it provides one third the funding of what's needed, by providing the equivalent of a classroom Eo each of the eighty schools that are overcrowded.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A11 right. Senator Maitland.

Well. Thank you, SenaEore for Ehat explanation. I -- I -- I assume that you are correct. 0ne other -- one other point that needed to be made here: itls my understanding that the State Superintendent must also approve this -- this expenditure. Has that been done?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All right. Senator Carroll. ' 175  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

I would just support Senator de1 Valle's motion and ask for a favorable -- Oh, I'm sorry --

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) No. Wait a minute -- wait a Rinute. Senator Maitland asked a question.

I'm sorry; didn't hear the question. I was asked something by somebody else. Could you repeat it? I apologize.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Would you repeat the question, Senator Maitland. SENKTUR KKITLANDZ If we access the acte has the State Superintendenk signed off on Ehis?

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Carroll.

I have no knowledge that he has signed off or not signed off, whatsoever.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All right. Senator Zito.

Question of the sponsor, Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) He indicates he will yield.

I -- I -- I'm a little confused, and more and more confused, as the conversation progresses. Is this new money -- ten million dollars, is this new money?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) I think we're all confused. Senator Carroll. SENATOR CARROLL: . I 176  STATE OE ILLINOIS 86*h GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 To add to the confusion, no# this is an existing bond authorization that had been allocated for City of Chicago school construction at the time created. And there was also an allocation for outside the Ckty of Chicaqo school construction. This would be the allocation within the school of -- the City of Chicago portion of existing bond authorization. Not new -- not a new program.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DIARCO) Senator Zito.

Can you tell me then, what the total portion of allocated funds are?

PRESIDING OFPTCER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Carroll.

To the best of my knowledgez Senator Zito, this would be the final allocation to Chicago. I don't know what the I'm not sure what youdre asking, I believe it was --

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Zito.

I -- I -- just to try to get some idea of the total allocakion. This isn't new money. I want to know too -- I guess my -- my question is two parts. Number one, What was the total allocakion of monies for the City of Chicago Schools? And number Ewoe whatls left for the suburban and downsEaEe disEricks? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCOI Senator nobody. Senator Carroll.

If I recall, it Was a two-to-one outside Chicago allocation. And I think it was two hundred million outsider and one hundred million inside, when created several years aqo. 177  i STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENZRAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Leqislative Day May 24, 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All righk. Senaeor del Valle has moved khe adopeion of Amendment No. 5 to Senate Bill 405. A11 those in favorr vote Aye. All opposed Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wished? Have al1 voted who wished? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 18z the Nays are 3l, none voting Present. And Senate -- Senate Amendment No. 5 fails. Any further amendments, Madam Secretary?

Amendment No. 6 offered by Senator Demuzio.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Demuzio.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No. 6 simply deletes the rehab for a district police office -- Skate police headquarters in my district. A few amendments down the road I kill add back the like amount of two seventy-three, but only to chanqe it to a planning of a construction for a State police facility and -- so this anendment deletes the rehab and, coming up# 1911 put it back in for planning and construction. So I would move adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any -- any discussion? If notz Senator Demuzio moves the adoption of Amendment No. 6 to Senate Bill 405. Al1 those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No . 6 is adopted. Any further amendments? Staff, staff. wherels staff?

Amendmene No. 7 offered by Senator O 'Daniel.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator O'Daniel. Amendment No. 7.

Thank you, Mr. Presidenk. Amendmgnt No. 7 appropriakes fifty l78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 thousand dollars for planning of a mine rescue station here in Central Illinois. The current appropriation of four hundred and sixty thousand dollars is for rehabilitation Work at a faeility that was built in 1910, and the Work kould cost about ninety dollars a square foot. And this Would give them a chance to -- to look around for maybe an alternative siqht, at the same kime usin: the facility theydre in.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A1l right. Any discussion? If not, Senator O'Daniel has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 7. A1l those in favor: say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have Amendment No. is adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 8 offered by Senator Rea.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Rea.

Thank you, Mr. President. This amendment adds one million five hundred and seven thousand in Capital Development Funds for the construction of the Southern Illinois Arts and Crafts Marketplace. The budget Which uas introduced by the Governor included four hundred thousand for the project. CDB'S technical service section has reviewed the proposed site, and there is a need for a total of 1.9-1-7. It also amends the appropriations language for the classroom addition at John A. Logan Community college, ko more accuraEely define Ehe scope of *he projecE. And this change: by the way, was requested by CDB: and there's no dollar change: as far as the community college.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge.

Thank your Mr. Presidentz Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. l79  STATE OF ILLINQIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989 -- rise in opposition to this amendment. I think that these projects, and by the way' there is money involved for the arts and crafts portion of -- of this amendment. I think this is -- these projects are desirable, but I would suggest that we vote No on this amendment and we can incorporate these into the budget at a later time. I -- just mention that these requests came to us at the eleventh hour this morninq, and we did not feel there was sufficient time to appropriately draft these, and qet them presented and incorporated into the process. I think that We, the Members of the General Assembly, are entitled to receive some advance notice from the second floor before we're asked to act on them. So I would ask for a No vote on this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Rea.

Thank you, Mr. President. In view of that: this project has received Statewide publicity; in fact, the Governor and I have meE, we met wikh *he press, wedve talked With the people throughout the State on this project, so it is commonly known, it's not a new one, although it will be an innovative one which will contribute much to tourism and economic development.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LDCSOWICZ) Question is, shall Senate Amendment No. 8 be adopted. Al1 in favor' vote Kye. A11 opposedz vote Nay. The voting ks open . Have al1 voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 30 Ayes, 27 Nays, and the amendment's adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 9 offered by Senator Demuzio.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Demuzio.

180  STATE OF ILLTNOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the wordage adding back the three hundred and seventy-three thousand I took out earlier for planning, rather that for rehab of a State police headquartersz and I would ask adoption of Amendment No. 9.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question is, shall Amendment No. 9 be adopted. All in favor, signify by saying Aye. Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 9's adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 10 offered by Senator Etheredge.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredgez on Amendment No. l0.

Thank you, Mr. President. I believe this is the amendment which inserts an enacting clause in this bill. There Was one inadvertently omitted. would ask for its favorable consideration.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Move the adoption of Amendment No. l0. All in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Anendment No. 2 ls adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. offered by Senator Etheredge.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Eenator Etheredge.

This is an amendment which adds eight hundred thousand dollars from the Capital Development Fund to -- in order to upgrade the parking loksy here in the Capitol Complex. would ask for its favorable consideration.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) l8l  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989 Any discussion? Senator Carroll.

Just to ask if, after Senator Etheredge's comments before about needs for war on drugs and all that, what is the eight hundred thousand dollars bein: spent for?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Parking lots. Senator Etheredge.

This is eight hundred thousand dollars, Senator, in order to improve the existing parking lots that we have here in the area.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

Senator Etheredge, do you have any idea wbo has requested this funding and -- and why was it not part of the Capitol Complex Plan and everything else? I mean, this sounds to me like something that we should be opposing.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge.

Thisy Senator, is part of the the plan for the development of the Capitol Complex that was discussed earlier.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendment No. 10 be -- what is this, 11 -- 11 be adopted. A11 those in favor, vote Aye. All opposed, vote Nay. The voting 's open. Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voked who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 29 Ayes, 29 Nays. The amendment's not adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 12 offered by Senator Donahue.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) l82  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24y 1989 Senator Donahue.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment 12 to Senate Bill 405 appropriates eight hundred and thirty-two thousand dollars -- eight hundred thirty-two thousand five hundred dollars to Spoon Spoon River College for two projects. One is to renovate the Macomb Center, that puEs Spoon River College in to the City of Macombg and three hundred and twenty-five thousand for roof -- roof replacement at the Clanton facility. Would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Would the Senator yield to a question?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Indicates she will.

Senator Donahue, is this on the priority list, and if so where? I thought that it already had been accommodated on all the other amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Donahue.

Well, itls been on the Board of -- Community College Board and khe Board of Higher Education. I don't think itls on their Eop ten priority list, no.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

Would you happen to know hoW far down that list it is? If it's on the list, and what we'd be skipping over to get to it? l83  I STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24z 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Donahue.

don't know specifically, Senator Carroll, though I do know that it's around fifteen.

PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. At this point then, I Would have to rise in opposition to this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall amendment be adopted. Al1 in favor, vote Aye. A11 opposed, vote Nay. The votingfs open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 29 -- 28 Ayes, 29 Nays. The amendment's not adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 13 offered by Senator Ralph Dunn.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Ralph Dunn. Amendment No.

Thank you, Mr. President. This is tWo and a half million from Capital Development Board for the startup, and the operation and construction of a dormitory building for work camps at Duouoin Pair. I'd urqe Ehe adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Carroll.

Yes. Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is two and a half million dollars for, also, something that Was not in the Governorls Wish list of Duouoin, for l84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 which we have funded a ton of money, at a ton of times, all the time, anytime, whenever the time comes. And here's an additional two and a half million dollars, Senator Dunn?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Ralph Dunn.

This is for a -- a construction design, and building of a work camp like they have here in Springfield, and it's been on the drawing board and been talked about for -- oh, several years. This is the first year that the Department of Corrections hasn't had a new prison on line in their budget. And this will be a hundred-bed work camp that would fill in as a minimum prison. I'd urge an adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

Well, I just think maybe if they really needed the space, they could use the mansion that's down there on the fair, instead of building another one. Itîs hardly ever used and this might be a better use for think itls an inappropriate use, and I think it better that the Governor turn over that mansion for this use: Which doesnît cost us any money; and I Would urge opposition.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Dunn, to close.

I appreciate that. The mansion is a fine place. I$d like to live khere myself, but -- but we need a place to put people who are opposed to Work camps and this Would be it. I urge an Aye vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The question is, shall Amendment No. 13 be adopted. A1l in favor, vote Aye. All opposed, vote Nay. Voting's open. Have a11 l85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 29 Ayes, 28 Nays, amendmentls adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 14 offered by Senator Madigan.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Hold -- hold kt. Xou Want a verification? Fkne. Proceed to verify the affirmative vote, please.

The following Members voted in the affirmative: Barkhausen, Davidson, DeAngelis, Donahue, Dudycz, Ralph Dunn, Etheredge, Fawell, Friedlandz Geo-Karis, Hawkinson, Hudson, Karpiel, Keats, Kustra, Macdonald, Madigan, Mahar, Maitland, Philip, Raica, Rea: Rkgney, Schaffer, Schuneman, Topinka, Watson, Weaver and Woodyard.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any questions of the affirmative votes: Senator Demuzio?

Senator Kustra on the Floor?

PRESIDING OPEICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) He's in his chair.

Senator Dudycz on the Floor?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) He's in his chair.

Eenator Eavickas on khe Floor?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman's in his chair.

Senator Raica on the Floor?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Savickas Wants to point out that he's voting in the l86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMSLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24y 1989 I. negative. We are verifying the affirmative. Is that right, I Frank? I'm sorry. Who was that? Vince, who else? Senator I Demuzio.

No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) On this question, there are 29 Ayes, 28 Nays, and the -- it's verified, and the amendment's adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 14 offered by Senator Madigan.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Madigan.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Last February the State Board of Education came into Heyworth, which is a small town in McLean County, and closed their grade school down, condemned it. As a result of thak condemnation, the grade school kids are presently having to attend school in the same buildinq with the high school students, which is not a healthy situation. This amendment, and this request, is for eiqht hundred and seventy-five thousand dollars from the Capital Development Board, to help Heyworth build a new grade school. END OF TAPE TAPE 5 The eight hundred and seventy-five thousand dollars represents twenty percent of the district's architect's costs, or estimated cost for construction, of four and a half Rillion dollars for this new grade school. And I would ask for its favorable consideration. i l87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSERBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24g 1989 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question is, shall Amendment No. 14 be adopted. A1l in favor, signify by saying Aye. A1l opposed. Amendment No. 14's adopted. Any further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 15 offered by Senator Raica. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Raica. SENATOR RAICA : Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This would -- adds l.2 million of -- to the GRF Fund for construction of a city hall and police headquarter building in Palos Hills. Theydve asked for it for at least the last three or four years, and haven't gotten it. I1m just trying to help them out. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question is, shall Amendment No. 15 be adopted. All in favor, signify by saying Aye. Aye. Opposed. Amendments No. l5's adopted. Any -- let's go, fellows. Senator Carroll. SENATOR CARROLL: Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Just to ask -- there fs been some questions on this sidez Senator Raica. Could you explain what it is, please? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Raica. SENATOR RAICA: It's 1.2 million dollars, Senator. I guess Palos has -- they've requested it for the past three yearsz in the General Assembly, for -- construcEion of -- PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Police and fire sEation. 188 l  I STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

I'm sorry, go -- Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Police and fire station: is that what it Was?

It's for a city hall slash police headquarters building in Palos Hills.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

This Would be Capital Punds.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Right.

Is that correct, Senator Raica?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Raica.

It's general funds -- General Revenue Funds.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

These are General Revenue Fundsz and not Capital Funds? Why Would we be doing capital construction in General Revenue Funds?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Eenator Raica.

It's our understanding that we don't think they could use the Capital -- or the Bonds in the Capital Development Pund.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

l89 d !  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 There are - - Senator Raica, in my understanding Was, When We ! ! had things like Build Illinois Funds and other non-GR -- ! non-GeneralRevenueFundedsources, Weg in fact, put in such ) 1 . things as civic centers, we put in such things as municipal and police stations, or at least tried to on various occasions. But I don 't recall ever doing it out of General Revenue Funds. They were always under one of the other bond funds sources because of the capital nature of them; and I recall in the past - I'm not sure it went all the way through the process - trying to assist some villages in their construction of similar type programs, buE through a capital type programy be it Build Illinois Bonds or some other bonds fund. And I would think that those funds would be the appropriate source for this type of funding, if any. Do you have any ldea why? I know it wasn't you, but somebody chose General Revenue, as opposed to one of those bond sources where we have always -- wherever we have done it, that's where wefve done it before.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Raica.

Senator, I guess it's just my understanding that there is no more room in the Build Illinois Fund for this money, and that's why it's got to come out the other way.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Kelly. SENATOR KELLYZ Thank you, Mr. President. I rise to support this amendment. I'm aware of a neighboring community of Palos is in the need for this project, and I solicit your support.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendment No. 15 be adopted. A1l in favor, - - signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 15 is adopted. 190  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 406, Senator Etheredge? Please read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 406. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readinq of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Carroll offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. ...I'm sorry. Floor Amendment No. l would reduce the spending down to the March 31st balance levels. This is one We always offer to bring khe level of the appropriation down to the spending level. This is a reappropriation. A11 other monies have already been spent, so we would only have to reappropriate the balance. I Would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Etheredge. Mr. EEheredge, please.

Will the Senator yield?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Indicates he will.

Senator, I have a.ooan amendment which will follow later that l91  ! STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 seeks to do theo.the same thinq, but I...I'm not sure that my figures will agree with yours. Can you give me what...give me an idea as to what the GRF reduction is, that you propose in your amendment?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

Yes. Thank you: Mr. President. Senator Etheredge, we are proposing a thirty-seven million seven hundred and thirteen thousand seven hundred dollar reduction in...in non-GRF funds and 2.725 in GRF. We were not aware that your amendment Would do that or any more current date. And this is the balance as We knew it to be.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge.

Our figures are not in precise agreement. Let me ask you another question, though. Does your amendment include the reappropriation for the Maine Township North High School renovation?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

Yes.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) EenaEor Ethêredge. ...(pause)... Etheredge.

Yes. Their...our amendment also includes some technical lanquage changes that were needed for projects in the Department of Milikary Affairs. Does that...does your amendment address khat concern as well?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 192  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT ( 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 I I think theirs reduces theirs to the March 31st spending level. Maybe that's the differential. In fact the Chair would advise that maybe the staffs could get together and come up with ; Ehe...approximate dollar totals that are pretty close. 1'11 be more than happy to share information with you if you 'd like. Senator Carrollr that was a question directed to you by Senator Etheredge. Yes. Any 'further discussion? Question is, shall Amendment No. 1 be adopted. Al1 in favor signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. l is adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAPRY) Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Luft.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Luft. Is Luft there? Amendment No. 2. This eliminates l60 No. Lasalle. Okay. Put your light on. Senator Luft.

Thank you, Mr. ...Thank you, Mr. ...Can you hear me?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) HoWie. Yeah. Howie. Senator Luft has the floor. Please proceed. Amendment No. 2.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 2 eliminates the unobliged expenditures for the Work that's going on in the 160 North Lasalle, at the former State of Illinois Buildin: in Chicago.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) senator Keats.

I rise in support of Senator Luft's amendment. We b0th have in identical amendments to do this and he just got called before mine. I want to support it and say this is a real serious problem with almost hundred percent cost overruns, let's stop it before it gets to be too bad. And that's What he is attempting to do. This 193  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislakive Day May 24, 1989 is...believe it or not, gang, this is a nonpartisan, bipartisan effort. And we would appreciate your support.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question is, shall Amendment No. 2 be adopted. A1l in favor signify by sayin: Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 2 is adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. RARRY) Amendment No. 3 offered by SenaEor Luft.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) You want to Withdraw that one, Senator Luft?

Withdraw that amendment, please.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) A11 right. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NAPRY) Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Etheredge.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge.

Mr. President, does khis..pis this the amendment that is the same as the first amendment...first floor amendment that we approved a few moments ago?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) LeE me look ak Amendment No. 1 and 3. Thanks. ...(long pausel... They look pretty close. Senator Etheredge.

Is the LRB number SRA8...

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) ... SRA86S0406GAJRAM01.

That's it...that's it. Mr. President, I would ask that...amendment be Tabled... l94  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) No, just withdrawn.

...or withdrawn...withdrawn.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Amendment No . 3 is withdrawn by Senator Etheredge. Further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARX: (MR. HANRY) Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Etheredge.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Come on. Give him a number. Read.o.read in the number, so he can know which...

ACTING SECRETARV: (MR. HARRV) SRA86S0406GABGAM01.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredqe. Excuse me.

Well, Senator, this is an amendment...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Please proceed.

... which adds ninety-three thousand fifty-nine dollars for three projects which Were initially thought would be finished in FY89...

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Okay.

.. . and now are going to extend...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question is, shall Amendment No. be adopted. Al1 those in favor signify by saying Aye...Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 3 is adopted. Any further amendments? Any further amendments? l95  i I STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TNANSCRIPT I I 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989 Let's go. ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NAPRY) .m . further amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading . Senate Bill 407. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill. ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HANRY) Senator Bill 407. (Secretary reads title of the bill) No committee amendments -- or 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor? ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HANRY) No Floor Amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Yes. There is. ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NAQRY) Amendment No. l offered by Senator Carroll. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll. Amendment No. 1. SENATOR CARROLL: Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. The amendment would delete the language that would make transfers from GRF to Ag Premium subject to total control of the Bureau of the Budget. I would move i*s adoption. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question is, shall Amendment No. l -- Senator Etheredge. SENATOR ETHEREDGE: Senator, could you explain to me what you 're doing here? This is the Ag Premium Fund. What is lt that you propose to -- what I l96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 change do you propose to make?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senakor Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senator Etheredge, as you know, when we do appropriations we appropriate to the Ag Premium Fund or from the General Revenue Fund to the Ag Premium Pund through the office of the Comptroller. NoW this deletes language that would have said it also had to qo throuqh the Bureau of the Budqet after it has passed, and been signed by the Governor. Once al1 that has happened, it should just be through the Comptroller like everything else. It shouldn't have to go back through BOB after itfs been there in the front and been there before the Governor signed and -- and khis would have taken it there a third time - a very useless act.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Etheredge.

The -- I'm -- I'm informed that the Comptroller did not want this in its -- in his budget. That's the reason this appropriation was introduced in this form. Has something -- something changed now that -- that Ilm not aware of?

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

No, Senator Etheredge, there may be some misinformation with al1 the other confusion going around. This is the way in which the Comptroller would prefer it, and the way it should be, because once we pass the law, the Governor has the option of takin: it through *he Bureau before he signs lt. So this is the way they would prefer it as well. And would continue to move the adoption. 197  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendment No. l be adopted. A11 in favor, vote -- signify by saying Aye. All opposed, voting No. Ayes have it. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAPRY) No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LCCHOWICZ) Im sorry. The amendment's adopted. Any further anendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HADRY) No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 408. Senator Schaffer. Read the bill.

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAQRY) Senate Bill 408. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of khe bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Berman, What purpose you seek recognition?

Thank you, Mr. President. Just for purpose of an announcement. The Senate Committee on Elementary and Secondary Education had scheduled a informational hearing in Room 400 for 6:00 p.m. tonight. Because of our schedule hereg thak meetin: is being cancelled until further order of -- further call of the Chair. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Thank you. Any Floor amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAKRX) Amendment No. 1 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll. l98  I STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 i SENATOR CARROLL: Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This would be a three thousand three hundred dollar reduction in order to try and save that half of the amount that the Bureau of the Budget Would've frozen, and I would move its adoption. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Etheredge. SENATOR ETHEREDGE: Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I -- I rise in opposition to this amendment. I Will have an amendment to follow, which will accomplish -- reductions in this -- the budget of this Commission. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question -- Senator Carroll to close. SENATOR CARROLL: l Thank you. Senator Etheredge, if you could -- if it is at a11 possible, can you identify what your reductions Would, in fact, accomplish that may be the samez or differenty of this and other Floor amendments? I know Ifm imposing upon, Mr. President, the normal process, but again, the confusion seems to reign. We were not, at least, aware of another amendment. That doesn't mean it's not around here somewhere, but we haven't seen it in the stacks thak had been handed out, 'cause we are attempting to do that interfacing to see if we are duplicating each other's efforts. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) For Ehree Ehousand dollars, kt's not worth aqqravation. You move the adoption? Al1 those in favor, signify by voting Aye. All opposed, by voting Nay. Voting is open. Have all voted Who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. On this questkon, there are 28 Nays -- 29 Nays: and the amendment's not adopted. Any further amendments? ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) 199  STATE OF ILLIXOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislakive Day May 24, 1989 Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Floor Amendment No. 2 simply freezes other operation lines to FY189 spendin: levels. It would total four thousand three hundred dollars -- GRP. I Would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge.

Well, Mr. President. once again, rise in opposition to this amendment. I do have a following amendment Which will accomplish the same thing, and a little more.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Schaffer. Lady moves the adoption of Amendment No. 2. A1l in favor, signify by saying Aye. Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 2 is adopted. Question is, shall Amendment No. 2 be adopted. Al1 in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. Voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. On this question, there are 29 Ayes, 28 Nays. The amendmentfs adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NANRY) Amendment No. --

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Verification has been requested. Call the affirmative voEes.

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAPRY) The following voted in the affirmative: Alexander, Berman, Brookins, Carroll, Collinsg DlArco, de1 Valle, Demuzio, Thomas Dunn, Hall, Holmberg, Jacobs, Jones, J.J. Joyce, Kelly, Lechowicz, Luft, Marovitz, Netsch, Newhouse: O'Daniel, Reaz Severns, Smith, Vadalabene: Welch, Zito and Mr. President. 200  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge.

Senator O'Daniel?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator O 'Daniel on the Floor? I don't see him. Remove him. Senator Etheredqe, Senator O'Daniel's in the back of the room.

Senator Collins.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Collins is in the aisle. We're all here, Forest. What else? The roll's verified. The amendment's adopted . Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARV: (MR. HAKRY) Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Etheredge.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge. Amendment No. Senator Etheredge.

Withdraw the amendmentz please.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Gentleman withdraws *he amendment. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAKQY) No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 409. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill.

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NAQRY) Senate Bill 409. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor? 201  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAQRY) Amendment No. 1 offered by Senator Carroll. l

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This would -- for tracking purposes: againy make the Commerce Commission into the nine divisions like it has been in all prior years. It has no dollar impact, but allows people who watch the spending process, know how the spending is, in fact, happening. These are the divisions theydve always operated under, and I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I rise in opposition to the amendment and I would, at the appropriate time, request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll, you Want to close?

Just that -- I don't see Why they don't want to know what's happening on -- in the varying divisions. This is the way it's always been. It -- it's sunlight and sunshine in the appropriations process. I Would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendment No. l be adopted. All in favor, vote Aye. All opposed, vote Nay. The voting's open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted Who Wish? Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 30 Ayes, 28 Nays, and the amendment's adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HANRY) 202  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislatkve Day May 24e 1989 Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is reduction of some fifty-one thousand dollars, to bring the entry level positions at entry level pay, and I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Once again, Mr. President. I rise in opposition to this amendment, and I would request a roll call.

PRBSIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendment No. 2 be adopted. A1l in favor, vote Aye. All opposed, vote Nay. Voting is open. Have all voted who Wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On this question, there are 30 Ayes, 28 Nays, amendment's adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HANRY) Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This would be *he productiviEy amendment of one percent. Half of that would ...tinaudiblel... Bureau: would've otherwise made them not spend, so that we can use it for the war on drugs and education, et cetera. I Would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question is: shall Amendment No. 3 be adopted. A1l in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. 203  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Leqislative Day May 24, 1989 Amendment No. 2's adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAKRY) Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns.

Thank youy Mr. President. would like to withdraw that amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Lady withdraws Amendment No. 4. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARV: (MR. HADRY) Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President. This amendment deletes unexplained excessive travel and contractual service increases. More specificallyz travel has been reduced to provide a ten-percent increase, rather than the thirty-percent increase that the commission is -- has required. Also the contractural line doubled, With no explanation, has been -- has been reduced. The total savings from this amendment is thirty-three thousand dollars. I would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Mr. President. I Would rise in opposition to this amendment, and would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns -- I'm sorry. Senator Jacobs, on the amendment.

204  I STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION l SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24e 1989 Thank you, Mr. President. I guess I'm qetting a little confused. I thoughk it was always the Republicans that were trying to vote for reductions, and this appears to be a nice big reductionz and I don't know how -- how come we always go on these roll calls, which the Republican Fund may not like. It's a rhetorical question, thatês all. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Weaver, to answer the question. No. SENATOR WEAVER: Thank you, Mr. President. Question of the sponsor of the amendment. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Indicates shedll yield. SENATOR WEAVER: Senator Severns, are these GRF Funds or PUF funds? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns. SENATOR SEVERNS: No, they are not GRF. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Weaver. SENATOR WEAVER: Where did this money come from? PRESIDING OPEICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns. SENATOR SEVERNS: From khe utility taxes. PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Weaver. SENATOR WEAVER: Are you worried aboub spending public utility Ronies to accomplish good regulation in the State of Illinois? 2B5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legîslative Day May 24, 1989

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns. Did you hear the question? Senator Severns.

I move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Lady moves for the adoption of Amendment No. 4. A11 in favor, siqnify by saying Aye. Roll call's been requested. All in favory vote Aye. All opposed, vote Nay. Voting's open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Clerk Will take the record. On this question, there are 29 Ayes, 28 Nays. Amendment's adopted. Senator Etheredge, what purpose you seek recognition? Amendment's adopted. Any further amendments?

Verification.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LCCHOWICZ) Any further amendments? Mr. -- Senator Etheredge. Your light was not on. I asked you, specifically: if there Was any question on the matter. Xou start -- and I Went to tbe other order of business, and then you proceeded to seek my attention. I think Was totally out of order, and I think I Was very fair about it# and we just had a roll call. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARX: (MR. NRQRY) Amendment No. 5 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of *he Senate. When we did have a hearing on this agency, several of the Members on both sides of the aisle were very concerned about the fact that this agency had developed their own police force; and those Members had strongly suggested - I repeat, from both sides 206  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 of the aisle - that their -- that police force be eliminated, and be put in the Department of State Police. This amendment is the first half of that process by eliminating it here, and then We will put it in the State Police when their budget comes over, as requested by Members from the other side of the aisle, in which We had concurred.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, I don't recall any such request ever coming from this side of the aisle. I mean, what We re talkin: about here is taking the monies which have been paid in by the transportation industry, into a fund to oversee the regulation of their industry. They -- this is one of the purposes for Which they pay these fees. They are the ones who have agreed to support the fee structure that we have now, in order to apply an appropriate level of regulation. I think it -- makes absolutely no sense at a11 to reduce this line item in the budget at all. would ask for a No vote on this, and I Would ask for a roll call at the appropriate -- when it is appropriate, Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SCNATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Hall.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. If you remember, on *he last year appropriation, this commission came in with the uniforms and all, so much stuff here, that we had to take that money out of them, and they Wanted to form kheir own police force. As a matter of fact, when the Illinois Commerce Commission is stopping trucks and they -- they have the State Police there, right there helping them, and they a1l were going to be trained at the Police Academy. So I think 207  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Senator Carroll is right in -- in his statement on this.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Schaffer.

Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, for years wedve tried the big -- to bring the big truck industry under control in this State. Maybe I've been here too long, and I see agendas Within agendasy but for one, want to see these trucks regulated and I - - I have to question What's going on here. It took us a long time to finally get some people out to crack down on these guys for safeky, and see they were obeying the laws. I just Wonder what 's going on here; and some of us may want to think about hoW welre voking. This may come back to haunt us.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senakor Weaver.

Question of the sponsor, Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Indicates he'll yield, sir.

Senator Carroll, were you aiming to transfer money from Commerce Commission to the Illinois State Police to nan these same duties -- to handle these same duties and also -- oh, go ahead and answer the first, please.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Thank you. Eenator carroll.

Yes.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Weaver.

Well: my only concern would be whether they 'd really be on the 208  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 highway, or whether they'd be desk jockeys. -- I have that concern, because you know, *e -- we suffer from lack of -- lack of State Policemen on the highways today, and I think if we had more presence on the highway, we'd have, probably, less accidents. So, it concerns ne to turn over this duty if itls necessary -- if itfs necessary to the State Police, not knowing that they -- whether or not they'd be in presence on the highway.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWTCZ) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President. I rise in stron: support of this amendment. I remember well the Appropriations Committee hearing Where this issue Was raised; and there Were Members on both sides of the aisle who Were quite surprised to hear that we had a police force within the ICC, at a time when wefre trying to find enough policemen and enouqh money to fight drugs on the streets, and to reduce the level of crime throughout this State. think constituents would well wonder why we're having a police force within the Illinois Commerce Commission. I support this amendment and urge every Member to support this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SEXATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll to I1m sorry. Senator Weaverg a second kime. Stan. Senator Carrollr to close.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. As was identified in committee by Senator Weaver and others, the Commerce Commission has no business trying to be a police force. These are not trained like policemen. They only get, at best, a quarter to half of the training of an Illinois State trooper. We want these troopers on the road. We want them to be police with police powers on the road. I think people are very shocked sometimes When they see al1 kinds of people: who have 209  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legkslatkve Day May 24, 1989 no training at all, or minimal training, carryinq weapons andy supposedly: performing police functions. Betker to have police do them. We do know that most of the Commerce Commission officers are not on the road; they're elsewhere. In the State Police, we can line item it so that it is for road use only, because that's where we want enforcement. Strong, trained, effective enforcement. These people should not be with guns. I agreed with those who saïd kt kn commkttee, and I think it would be appropriate to take it out of the Commerce Commission and put in the State Police, and specifically earmark it for road dutyy and I would ask for adoption of Amendment No. 5.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is -- is, shall Amendment :o. 5 be adopted. A11 in favor, vote Aye. A11 opposedr vote Nay. The votingfs open. Have all voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Clerk will Eake the record. On this question, there are 30 Ayes: 26 Nays, and the amendment's adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAQRY) No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 410. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill.

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NARRY) Senate Bill 410. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Readinq of the bîll. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Ploor?

ACTING SECRETARV: (MR. HAKQX) Amendment No. l offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll. 2l0  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th CENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Leglslative Day May 24, 1989 i SENATORCARROLL: i Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This would be that one-percent productivity factor. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Mr. President. I rise in opposition to this amendment, and I would request a roll call at the appropriate time.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SXNATOR LECHOWICZ) Queskion is, shall Amendment No. 1 be adopted. A11 in favor, vote Aye. A11 opposed, vote Nay. Votin: is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted Who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 29 Ayes, 29 Nays. The amendment is not adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NAPRY) Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senakor Severns.

Thank you -- thank you, Mr. Presldent. Floor Amendment No. 2 takes down the operating levels --

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECEOWICZ) Excuse me. Would you give the Lady your attention, please. Would you please give *he Lady your attention. Please proceed.

Thank you, Mr. President. Floor Amendment No. 2 reduces the operating line to FY,89 estimated expenditures. The five thousand seven hundred dollar reduction comes eighty percent from the contractual service line. I would move for its adoption. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) ! 2ll  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSTON SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Any dkscusskon? Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Mr. President. I rise in opposition to this amendment, and would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns, to close.

Once again, We're just trying to cut. We're trying to make priorities. If -- if we believe that we need to put more money into other vital need areas of Ehis State, I would urge adoption of this amendment, and the several others that will follow.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendment No. l be -- I'm sorry. Amendment No . be adopted. No. A1l in favorz vote Aye. All opposedy vote Nay. Voting's open. Have a1l voted Who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take tbe record. On this question, there are 30 Ayes, 28 Nays. The amendment's adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HANRY) No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 411. Senator Raica. Read the bill.

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAQRY) Senate Bill 411. (Secretary reads title of *he bill) 2nd Reading of khe bill. No committee amendmenks.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAQRX) Amendment No. l offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll. 2l2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This would eliminate 'a neW position in General Revenue Fundinq, to try and keep the number of employees of State government at the hundred and twenty thousand level. So that we could have some money for education and all those other programs. I would move its adopkion.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition to the amendment, and would request a roll call. PRESIDISG OFFICER; (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendment No. l be adopted. A11 in favor, vote Aye. All opposed, vote Nay. Voting's open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 29 Ayesp 28 Nays. Amendment's adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. WAQRV) Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Carroll. PRESIDISG OFFICERS (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senakor Carroll.

This would be, Mr. President and Members of the Senate, the productivity amendmenty aqainz in an effort to free up some money for *he needed service programs.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I Would ask for -- I rise in opposition to the amendment, and would ask for a roll call. PRESIDING OPFICER; (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 213  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24z 1989 Question is, shall Amendment No. 2 be adopted. All in favor, i vote Aye. Al1 opposed, vote Nay. Voting's open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted Who Wish? Clerk will take the record. On this questionz there are 29 Ayesg 29 Nays. The amendment's not adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HADRX) Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President. Ploor Amendment No. 3 simply does what wedve been trying to do, tighten our belt, hold spending in line with F7189 spending levels. It reduces GRF by twenty-seven thousand eight hundred dollars. I would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition to the amendment; would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns moves the adoption of Amendment No. 3. All in favor, vote Aye. All opposed, vote Nay. The votingls open. Have a11 voted who Wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Clerk Will take the record. On this question, there are 29 Ayes, 29 Nays. The amendment is not adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NRQRY) Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Etheredge.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge.

Thank youy Mr. President. This is a -- an amendment which reduces thirty-two hundred dollars in GRF in order to -- this 2l4  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 brings an automobile request into compliance With CMS guidelines. I Would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The question is, shall Amendment No. 4 be adopted. A1l in favor, signify by saying Aye. Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 4 is adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARX: (MR. NANRY) No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 412. Senator Weaver. Read the bill.

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NAPRY) Senate Bill 412. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAPRY) Amendment No. l offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll, please.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is a phase-in of the new employees, in order to free up some money. It's a modest phrase -- phase-in of some sixty-one thousand four hundred dollars. I Would move iEs adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Genator Etheredge .

Yes. I rise in opposition to the -- amendmentr and Would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 2l5  SQATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989 Question is, shall Amendment No. be adopted. A1l in favor: vote Aye. A11 opposed, vote Nay. Voting's open. Have a1l voted who kish? Have all voted who Wish? Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 29 Ayes: 29 Nays, and the amendment's not adopted . Any further amendments? Should be. Severns. Senator -- that's Amendment No. 2. Senator Severns.

ACTING SECRETARX: (MR. HAPRY) Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATQR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senake. Floor Amendment No. 2 simply provides a three-month phase-back of tWo long-term vacancies to the National Historic Survey, at a savings of nineteen thousand one hundred dollars GRF. I would urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge.

Xes. I rise in opposition to amendment, and Would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendment No. 2 be adopted. Senator Severns to close.

Senakor Etheredge and Members of the Senate. understand that -- that you Wish that your own amendments Would pass, and some have, but this is a reasonable request. These are tWo long-term vacancies. We have seventeen hundred and eighty-one new positions requested by the Governor. We're trying to scale back not only new positions, but also long-term vaeancies. NoW wedre not cutting out these long-term vacancies, wefre just simply 2l6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legkslative Day May 24g 1989 suggesting that we need to phase it back by three months. Now a1l of us in this Chamber have talked at length about Wanting to cut dollarsg to find the necessary dollars for vital needs. To find the necessary dollars for schools, for fighting drugs on the street, for fighting every kind of real challenge out there. This is a -- reasonable request, and I don't understand the opposition. would urge adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) ;he question is, shall Amendment No. 2 be adopted. A11 the good guys, vote Ayez and a1l bad guys, vote No. Voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? It looks like it's even. Have a11 voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. There are 29 Ayes and 29 Nays; we lre evenly divided. The amendment's not adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAKRY) Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of khe Senate. This is that one percent that would not be spent anyway, so that we can use it for the needed State programs that We have all talked about. would move its adoption. It's a hundred and eighty-four thousand four hundred dollars.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Leave for the last roll call. Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition to the -- to the amendment: and yes, I would give leave to the last roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Some -- objection over here, though. Question ise shall Amendment No. 3 be adopted. A11 those in favor, vote Aye. A11 2l7  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24. 1989 opposed, vote Nay. Voting is open. Have a1l voted who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Look at that. Take the record. On ehis question, there are 29 Ayes, 29 Nays. Amendment's not adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NAKRY) Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President. Floor Amendment No. again: is a responsible approach to try to scale back the dollars that we spend at the State level. Wefve freezing GRP operations at the 1ï'89 levels, but we're taken into account that not -- that in that, are funds that are needed, increases that are needed for the hazardous waste lab. Therefore, we didn't reduce it. This is a responsible neasure that freezes, at the FYI89 levels: the operational levels With a saving to GRF of two hundred and sixty-six thousand dollars two hundred dollars. I Would urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Sehaffer.

Mr. President, I -- I've like most Members -- in trying to keep track of these roll calls, and also going over the agreed list to make sure that everything is as I would like it to be, I eouldn't help but notice a whole slug of bills sponsored by one Member of the Senate in particular, not on this side of the aislee to give this agency more powers, more duties, to have them do Study after study after study. HoW are those bills consistent with this amendment? 1911 be kind of curious to see how that Member votes when he wants to dump a1l these additional duties on khat agency. Nok mentioning any names of anybody who may be at 2l8  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 ground zero.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Who are they? Senator Etheredge. h !

Thank you, Mr. President. I rise in opposition to the amendment, and would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns, to close.

I would just ask for a little bit more responsibility on -- on these amendments. That's what We're trying here. A reasonable responsible budget at FY189 levels. I would urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendment No. 4 be adopted. Al1 in favory vote Aye. Al1 opposed, vote Nay. Voting's open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Clerk will take the record . On this question, there are 28 Ayes, 29 Nays and Ehe amendment's not adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NADRY) Amendment No. 5 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

Thank youz Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This would insert a one percent turnover in hiring 1ag to this agency, and I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition to the amendment, and Would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 2l9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35*h Legislative Day May 24, 1989 1 Question is, shall Amendment No. 5 be adopted. All in favor, vote Aye. A1l opposed, vote Nay. Voting's open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have a1l voted Who Wish? Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 27 Ayes, 29 Nays. The amendmentls not ! i adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NAKQY) Amendment No. 6 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President. Floor Amendment No. 6 eliminates khree ghost employees currently funded by the department, but work for the Governor. These salaries for these positions will be funded in the Governor's budget. Welre just trying to provide more accountabllity. I would urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Etheredge.

I rise in opposition to the amendment, and Would request a roll call. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) i ' Question 1sz shall Amendment No. 6 be adopted. Senator Carroll, on the question.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I rise in support of Senator Severns' amendment, and I Ehink itls clear that we should know what this is al1 about. These are qhost payrollers. People that are -- the Governor has said should be on his budgetg and these are noW in the agencies. There are -- I guess, some thirty of them al1 over government: thirty-eight. They belong in the Office of the Governor, theysre working for the I Office of the Governor. They should be paid for by the Office of I 220  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 the Governor, and I think Ehat We should be moving them al1 into the Office of the Governor. These are, basically, the very higher end of the pay scale, and I would urqe that we brinq these ghosts back.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severnsy to close.

Is -- I would just urge adoption. I think everybody wants to be for accountablilîty and tbis amendment belps provkde that. I urge an -- Yes vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendment No. 6 be adopted. All in favor, vote Aye. All opposed, vote Nay. Voting's open. m..tmachine cutoffl... Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? We're at the magic number, 29 Ayes and 29 Naysz and the amendment's not adopted. Any further amendments? Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NADRY) Amendment No. 7 offered by Senators Rea and O'Daniel.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Rea.

Thank you, Mr. President. This just breaks out the funds in terms -- no increase, terms of rural home energy grant program -- to provide weatherization grants to small rural businessesy farms and social service agencies, and to an agriculture program. Move for adopeion.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Etheredqe.

Senator, we do -- there is an amendment -- I believe Senator Weaver will have an amendment which will do the things which you're seekin: to accomplish and several other things, as well. 22l  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24z 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Rea.

Maybe Senator, but we dve got the amendment right before us, and I'd say let's go with it and get her taken care of. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Gentleman moves the adoption of Amendment No. 7. A11 în favor, vote Aye. Al1 opposed, vote Nay. The voting's open. Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On this question: there are 29 -- 30 Ayes, 25 Nays and the amendment's adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAQRY) Amendment No. 8 offered by Senator Etheredge.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge. Any further amendments? Senator Etheredge, you interested in Amendnent No. 8?

Xes. Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This amendment is a reduction of ninety thousand dollars in GRF funding. It eliminates a fiscal F190 contract with the Illinois Export Council, and it also eliminates fifty thousand dollars for the study of siltation in various counties in the vicinity of Peoria Lake. This is the -- an appropriation thatls been around for quiEe a long time now, and we think that enough skudy has been conducted on Ehis subject.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) On that questkon, I believe the Gentleman from Tazewell would like to be recognized. Senator Luft.

Thank you, Mr. President. This not only affects my district, it always -- it also affects Senator Madigan's district: and I 222  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 believe Senator Hawkinson's district and, in fact: the study, if you would check into it, is not a study at all. It's demonstration projects that are ongoing in -- with small tributaries coming into the Illinois River, that are causin: siltation. Ik was our hope: when We created these fifty thousand dollar per year grants, that we would attempt to set forth demonstration projects Ehat after a couple three years would be used as a -- an example, for not only the State of Illinois, but hopefully, nationwide, on stopping siltation. And I would suggest that they reconsider their position on what we would like to think. It may be demonstrated a couple years from now that this isn't working, but right now, I think, would not be the opportune time to interrupt these demonstration studies.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Hawkinson.

Thank you, Mr. President. I also would agree that this has been mislabeled. This is not a study, but it is a project. It's a most serious problem in Peoria Lake, and I would also like to urge them to reconsider this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Madiqan.

Thank you, Mr. President. I would like to echo the words of the previous two speakers, and say that this is an important project on my side of *he Illinois River, and would -- request reconsideration of this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge, to close.

Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I have learned a great deal within the last minute or twog and I would 223  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legkslatkve Day May 24y 1989 like to withdraw this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Wise choice. Gentleman withdraws the amendment. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NADRY) Amendment No. 8 offered by Senator Weaver.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Weaver.

Thank you, Mr. President. This amendment would add fifty thousand dollars from the Hazardous Waste Research Pund to the Groundwater Protection Act appropriation. It decreases the Federal Energy Fund appropriation by four hundred and fifty thousand dollars: and increases the -- Petroleum -- Violation Fund appropriation by four hundred and fifty thousand dollars, adding a neW line. It also provides for tWo million eight hundred and fifty-five thousand nine hundred for program catch-up initiative

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Excuse me, Senator. Senators, can we have your atkention, please. This is a rather expensive amendment. SENATOR WEAVERJ It would also

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Please continue.

It would also add two million eight hundred and fifty-five thousand nine hundred for a program catch-up initiaeive at the State Geological Natural History and Water Survey. It'd also add a hundred thousand dollar grant to the Museum for Broadcast Communications, which has been a continuing commitment, and I'd move adoption. 224  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Weaver moves the adoption of Amendment No. 8. A11 in favor, vote Aye I'm sorry. Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Question of the sponsor, and it's aimed at finding out What this does, 'cause there is some feelinq, on this side, for some of khose areas, but there's also some confusion as to what this three million dollar General Revenue Fund add-on does. Is this pay raises for exisking employees? Is this neW people? What is it within the program, please?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Ladies and Gentlemenz the noise level here is getting rather loud, and I tried to brinq it to your attention a litkle bit earlier. We need to have a little courtesy for each other and the Membership to move this thing along. Senator Brookins, please. Senator Weaver, to respond.

Thank you: Mr. President. Senator Carroll, particularly what you're askinq about are the -- the scientific surveys. In the last feW years wedve had a head count drop at the Geological Survey of forty-one percent, the Water Survey, thirty-five percent, and the Natural History Survey by twenty-five percent. Head counts gone down that much over the -- over these years. Many of us have found that when we have complaints, in our area, for knveskiqations by water well testing, this and that. Does that answer your question? What wedre doin: is upqradinq the numbers, the head count, by two or three per department. Upgrading salaries. These people are about thirty percent behind their professional colleagues that in other State governments, and We're just trying to play catch-up over a period of about three years. 225  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24z 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

The question wasr Was this adding more people? Because thak's where it's really needed, in each of the survey areas, and *e would support the amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Weaver.

Yes. This is What it's doing. 80th head count and salary.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Does that answer your question, Senator Carroll? Senator Weaver, to close.

Appreciate a favorable roll call -- or adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is -- question is, shall Amendment No. 8 be adopted. All in favor, signify by sayin: Aye. Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 8's adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAQRY) No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHO%ICZ) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 413. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill, please.

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) senate Bill 413. (Secretary reads Eitle of the bill) 2nd Readin: of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NRNRY) Amendment No. 1 offered by Senator Severns. 226  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President. Floor Amendment No. l simply phases a vacancy that has been vacant since twelve of 988, and is a Field Examiner 1. The saving to GRF is six thousand three hundred dollars. I would urge its adoption.

PRESIDING QFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition to the -- to the amendment, and I Would request a roll call at the appropriate time, and would also poink out there appears to be a technical flaw in this amendment -- a draftin: error.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns, to close.

We are just trying to make certain that we donêt budqet dollars for -- for services that aren't performed. That's all wedre doing herew and for those that's the right thing to do# I would urge a ïes vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendment No. 1 be adopted. A11 in favor, vote Aye. A11 opposed: vote Nay. Voting's open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted Who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this question: there are 29 Ayese 28 Nays. The amendmen*'s adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NAQRY) Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

227  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24g 1989 Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the productivity amendmentg one percent to free up an amount that would not be spent otherwise, so that we can have some money for the needed services. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Etheredge.

I rise in opposition to the amendmente would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendment No. 2 be adopted. A11 tn favor, vote Aye. A11 opposed, vote Nay. Voting's open. Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Clerk Will take record. On this question, there are 29 Ayes, 29 Nays. The amendment's not adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAKRY) Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President. Floor Amendment No. 3 simply does what we've tried to do, and have succeeded in doingy in so many other amendments, and that's limiting the operational lines that the FY '89 estimated expenditure reduced in the FY'90 budqet by four thousand seven hundred dollars. I Would urge its adoption.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition to the amendment, and would request a roll call.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 228  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSBMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Question is, shall Amendment No. 3 be adopted. All in favor, vote Aye. A1l opposed, vote Nay. The voting's open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 30 Ayes, 28 Nays. The amendment's adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NAPRX) No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 414. At the request of the sponsor, and vith leave of the Body, we w1ll have Senator Etheredqe handle the bill. Hearin: no objections, Senator Etheredge. Please read the bill. 414. ACTING SECRETARY) (MR. NAPRX) Senate Bill 414. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendment from the Ploor?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NAKRY) Amendment No. l offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESTDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll, on the ghost.

Why, thank you, Mr. -- no not yet. This one reduces the merik comp from five pereent to four percent, like we did for everyone elser and I would move its adoption. PRESIDING OEFICER; (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Xes. I rise in opposition of the amendment, and would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 229  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 This is not a wise move. Senator Carroll, to close.

Ask for the adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendment No. l be adopted. All in favor, vote Aye. A11 opposed, vote Nay. Voting's open. Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this questiony there are 29 Ayes and 29 Nays. The amendment's not adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAKRY) Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Oh, wait a minute, before we get that. Ladies and Gentlemen, joining us on the Senate Floor this afternoon, is the fine State Treasurer of this great State, Jerry Cosentino. Let's give him a warm hand. Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Mr. Treasurery Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the one that Would bring into the Governor's office those who have been on outside payrolls, but work for the Office of the Governor. This would provide for honesty and openness in government. It would bring a1l of these thirty-eight employees and I can, and will list them, if that is the request - to bring them into the Office of the Governor, where they truly and appropriately belong, and I Would ask for favorable consideraEton of Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Keats.

Yeah. List these ghosts payrollers. If -- this stuff exists, tell us about it. You know, we used to beat -- beat the last Governor over that about his qhost payrollers. Who are these 230  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 people, so we knok whether this is accurate or not.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

In response to Senator Keats: Matt Ferguson, Gordon Fidler, Gwyn Morgan, Mary Ann Rohrback, Randy von Liski, Robert Rush, Charles Starky Marlys Black, Vicki Greenany Dee Hickey, Brekt Ivers, Julie Jokisch --

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Excuse me. Excuse me. Wait a minute. You writing them down, Senator Keats?

Doreen Anderson, Michelle Arnold, Gretchen Bonfert, Cheryl Bradley, Sheila Craig, Marsha Erixon, Jonathan Flaum , Judith Getzels, Debbie Kurtz, Carol Long, Maria Marioni, Robert Radmacher, Barbara Stewart, Curtis Coleman, Katherine Green, Marge Harvey, Juanita Hindman, Mary Ann Johnson, Jeanne Bradner, Diane Marks, Dorothy D'Antagnac, Mary Green, Ann Mccaber Terri Moreland, Phyllis Sintay, Judy Thorman and Melanie -- Whitter, and I apologize to any of them if I mispronounced their name.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWTCZ) I think they all exist, though. Senator Schaffer. Wait, I'm -- Roqer Keatsz are you through? Yeah. He's through.

Mr. President. Senator Carroll. Now that youdve named your people, where are ours?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) To respond to that, Senator Etheredge.

I rise in opposition to the amendment, and would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 23l  ! STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Senator Carroll.

Well, I understand on your list personal: Senator Schaffer, is about three hundred people; this was only about thirty-eight. These are the ones the Governor has buried al1 over. That's all we 've been able to find out so far, and I think they belong, appropriately, in his office. And I would move adoption of Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Gentleman moves the adoption of Amendment No. 2. A11 in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. All right. Noes have it. Any further amendments? Amendment lost. Roll call? Question is# shall Amendment No. 2 be adopted. All in favor, vote Aye. All opposed, vote Nay. Votlngîs open. Have al1 voted Who Wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Whoops. Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this questionz there are 29 Ayes and 29 Nays, and the anendment is not adopted. I Was right. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NAPRY) Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Leave for the last same roll call. Withdraw it -- okay. Any furkher amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAKRY) Amendnent No. 3 offered by Senator Etheredge. PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredqe.

Please withdraw that amendment, Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) It's Withdrawn. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAKRY) 232 I  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislatkve Day May 24, 1989 No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 415. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill.

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NAPRY) Senate Bill 415. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NAQRY) Amendment No. l offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President. This is the productivity amendment. Would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Etheredge.

rise in opposition, and would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The question ks, shall Senate Amendment No. be adopted. All in favor, vote Aye. A11 opposed, vote Nay. Voting's open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Clerk will take the record. on this question, there are 27 Ayes, 28 Nays. Amendment's not adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARX: (MR. HAKRX) Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns.

233  STATE OF ILLINOIS I 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24y 1989 Thank you, Mr. President. Therefs many of us who even E question if the taxpayers should be picking up the tab at all for this council, but if we arez I think we should at least do it at the operating level of F7189, and that's What this amendment does. I would urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge.

I rise in opposition to the amendment, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns, to close.

Just simply that this is a fair and reasonable request. We're trying to cut dollars from this side to be able to apply to the critical need areas of this State, and we would Welcome support from a1l areas of this Chamber.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) All right. I made an error. I didnft see Davidson's light. Senakor Davidson.

Well, Mr. President and Members of the Senate, I'd rise in opposition to her amendment, because the thing she's not aware of is, due to Ehe Legislative Audit Commission 's recommendakion, part of the expenses where this had been in the Department of Public HealEh in years past so we could krack thise and I have a furkher anendment on something due to this Legislative Audit Commission. I would urge you all to vote No. I ask her to withdraw it: because the increase is to cover the expense which the Legislative Audit -- Committee --

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Is this for a thousand dollars? Is this for a thousand? 234  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislatlve Day May 24, 1989 Senaeor, are you through? Senator Davidson, are you through? Okay. Senator Severns.

Yeah. Just let's go.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Okay. The question is, shall Amendment No. 2 be adopted. A1l those in favor, vote Aye. All opposed, vote Nay. Voting 's open. Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On this question, there are 29 Ayes and 28 Nays. Amendment's adopted. Any further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAARY) Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Davidson.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Davidson.

Mr. President and Members of the Senatea this is two hundred thousand dollars so that we start the 1990 games in accordance to khe recommendation of Legislative Audit Commission. In this we have to have up-front money, 'cause it runs around a hundred and eighty or some odd thousand, depending on what the bid is on the uniforms and shiresr which we have to buy for all the participants. This had been park of the recommendation from the Audit Commission, 'cause the prior years it had been an item in another budget -- and so they could buy them up front, which *e had to have, and this -- We went through this the first year the games were in existence: because we had to pay an excess premium by not ordering them early. So I move the adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jacobs.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the 235  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Senate. Will the sponsor yield for a question?

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Indicates he w1ll.

So# Senator, what wedre saying here is that we are going to add two hundred thousand dollars to a already crippled budget, and we're doing it for -- for uniforms? What -- basketball uniforms: football uniforms, track uniforms? What kind of uniforms are we talking about?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Davidson.

Those which we furnish for those individuals Who win in competition on the regional level that -- come to Champaign. This negotiation with the Bureau of the Budget and the Audit Commission and the -- excuse me, the Appropriations Chairman -- on by your State Representative Brunsvold, who Was the Vice Chairman during the time I Was recovering, and this Was a recommendation in Audit Commission. And what this amounts to is Ehat if wedre going to order the uniforms for the July 1990 games: it has to be put in this year's budget, because We have to order them in December of '89 to qet the best break on the prlce. Those of you in the -- up in the North West corner of this Statez the -- shirts and et cetera are done by the Jo Daviess Workshop, which is mentally handicapped people, but to be able eo do that, we have to pu* ie up front on the bid, and, as you know, under the Illinois law, you can't go out for a bid unless you have the money to pay for it. I'd appreciate a favorable vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jacobs.

I just Want to say -- I just think We should vote this down. 236  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

I just rise in opposition of spending two hundred thousand of General Revenue Funds for uniforms, and urge a No vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Zito.

I just Want to make -- I don't mean to belabor this and I haven't spoke in any of these appropriationsr Senator Davidson, but, you know, we have a group come down, Youth in Governmentz that has fifteen hundred of the brightest high school students in this State participate in a governmental program, and we don't fund them. We fund them less that a tenth of what youîre asking for uniforms. think this is a hypocrisy, and we should vote No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Davidson, to close.

Well, Ladies and Gentlemen, you're the ones who created the Prairie State games, you have funded it, eighty of your alumni were on the U .S. Olympic Team that particîpated in Seoul. This is what it's al1 about. It's for amateur athletes. Senator Carrollz I'm surprised that you rose in opposition to this, 'cause I was informed by Representative Brunsvold that he has spoken to you about this, and wby the Legislative Audit Commission -- this strictly came from khe -- Legislative Audit Commission. We'd be delighted to let it qo back the other way, but this is what they recommended so they can track the funds more accurately, and -- and I support it and I Would urqe al1 of you to vote Aye.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall the amendment be adopted. A11 in favor, vote Aye. Opposed: vote Nay. Voting's open. Have all voted who 237  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATZ TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Clerk will kake the record. On this question, there are 27 Ayes, 29 Nays, and the amendment is not adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 417. Senator Topinka. Read the bill. What purpose the Gentleman from Sangamon -- Senator Davidson seek recognition?

4l6 Was the next billz Mr. -- I mean, Mr. President, and I would appreciate you being called. This is Historic Preservation's annual budget.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Okay. It's my error. Senate Bill 416. Please correct the board.

Senate Bill 416. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWXER Z Senator Carroll offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This would -- this would delete the new position. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Kny discussion? Senator Ethereoge. 238  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989

Rise in opposition to the amendment, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendment No. 1 be adopted. Senator Davidson.

Sorry, Mr. President, but I had my light on. Senator Carroll, is this amendment the one that strikes out the neW positions for the guides down at Cahokia Mounds employment, and Bishop Hill?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Yes. Senator -- Senator Carroll.

No# it's the microfllm person.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) One person. Senator Davidson.

That person Was transfered from correctional -- I mean from contractual services, has been there all the time, youdre eliminating the job of a person who's been there all the time, and it was removed from contractual service and is on the personal -- transferred from contractual service to personal service line.

PRESIDING OFFIQER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of the amendment. A1l in favor, vote Aye. Al1 opposedz vote Nay. Voting's open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voed who Wish? Clerk will take the record. on this question, there are 29 Ayese 28 Nays. The amendment's adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

239  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Thank you. This is the amendment to free up money for education, the war on drugs and all that. It's the productivity amendment. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge.

I rise in opposition to the amendment, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECEOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendment No. 2 be adopted. Al1 in favor, vote Aye. All opposed, vote Nay. Voting ls open. Have all voted Who wish? Have al1 voted kho wish? Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 29 Ayes, 28 Nays. Amendment's adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 3 takes al1 operatin: lines back to FY 189 estimated expenditure levels, except for rent and utility increases. It Would provide a hundred and ninety-five thousand dollars to GRF, or more specifically, additional dollars for education. I would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question is, shall Amendment No. 3 be adopted. All in favor, signify by saying Aye. On the question I'm sorry. Senator Davidson.

Senator Severns, is this the one that removes those employees, that I just asked about previously, from Cahokia Mounds?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 240  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989 Senator Severns.

No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendment No. be adopted. A11 in favor, vote Aye. A1l opposed, vote Nay. Voting 's open. Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On this question, there are 27 Ayes, 26 Nays. Amendment's adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 4 elimlnates personal service lines from the Cahokla Mound and Bishop Hill Divisions, since those employees are -- funded in the Hiskoric Sights Division. It also deletes an obligated balance of the -- reappropriation for the Dana Thomas House furnishings, at a saving of one hundred and eighty-eight thousand seven hundred dollars to GRF.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Davidson.

Mr. President. I -- We would ask that we believe this amendment's technically incorrect 'cause ik doesn 't -- in nok correct form. I Would ask for a -- opinion from the Chair.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Can I see the amendment, please? Amendment's correct. Senator Davidson.

Mr. President. would ask for you and the Parliamentarian -- 24l  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 look at it againy because all it says, 'êdelete six, seven, eight, nine and tenf', doesn't have the words ''lines'' in it, which - is for this amendment to be technically correct, those words have to be in there. This -- khis amendment's in error.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Okay. ...tmachine cutoffl... The amendment's fine. Senator Davidson.

Well, that's your opinion. I rise in opposition, and at the right time 1,11 ask for a roll call vote. Senator Sam, this removes twelve employees out of Cahokia Mounds' line item. Also, I don't know who had Bishop Hill in their districty but this removes the employees that Will be the guides, and the employees to open those two facilities. I urge a No vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall the amendment be adopted. All in favor, vote Aye. A1l opposed, vote Nay. The voting's open. Have a11 voted who Wish? Now's the time to stand up. Have all voted Who wish? Clerk will take the record. On Ehis question, there are 29 Ayes, 27 Nays. The amendmentls adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 5 offered by Senator Davidson.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Davidson.

I'd like to withdraw that. With Ehe adoption of these okher amendments, it's incorrect.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman withdraws the amendment. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 5 offered by Senator Etheredge. 242  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge.

I would withdraw that amendment: Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Gentleman withdraws the amendment. Any further amendments?

No -- oh, pardon me. Amendment No. 5 offered by Senator Davidson.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Davidson.

1111 have to ask for the number, 'cause one of them we have to withdraw 'cause it's incorrect. Is that No. 27

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Why don't you read the the reference number, please. SECRETARY HAWKER; SRA86S04l6JJJRAM04.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Gentleman withdraws the amendment? Withdrawn. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 5 offered by Senator Davidson.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senakor Davidson. SENATOR DAVIDSON; Mr. President and Members of the Senate. This amendment is in order, and what does is# where, presently, have contractual service to rent the old State Journal-Register building, where the Historical Preservation Agenk is housed this removes it from the rent moneyz puts it -- there's been an offer to purchase this -- the owners of it have made a offer to the State for tWo hundred 243  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION ! . SENATE TRANSCRIPT ' 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 and fifty thousand dollars to purchase it. This -- currently the rent is seventy-nine thousand three hundred a year, so we have the option to buy it for two hundred thousand, plus the balance over to permanent improvements, approximately fifty thousand dollars. The savings in thls, over the years, would be substantial. I urge the adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President. Qgestion of the sponsor. We are buying the o1d State Journal-Register building: again talking about capital, and that which wedre doing in the -- the City of Springfield. Why are we, however, usin: General Revenue Funds for that purpose, as opposed to how we would normal acquire capital? END OF TAPE TAPE 6

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Genator Davkdson.

'Cause we're saving the rent funds out of General Revenue, at which wedre paying approximately seventy-nine thousand three hundred a year for, out of General Revenue, for the rent. This would take the purchase priceg and we have recovered the entire outlay in less than three yearsz rather than continue to pay the rent.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Luft. Senator Luft.

Thank you, Mr. President. I just have a question, alsoe on why 244 I i 2  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 wefre not -- am I to understand this is being purchased With t General Revenue monies? That's a question of the sponsor, I'm sorry. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) I Senator Davidson.

With the adoption of this amendment, yes, We would bey and the reason we're doing it that way ié because wedre presently paying the rent out of General Fund, and so the idea behind this Was - to save the overall over the years - is to take it out of General Revenue. The purchase that's been offered to us for two hundred thousand dollars, plus approximately fifty thousand owed on permanent improvement they did when the agency moved in.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Luft.

Thank youz Mr. President. I would suggest that we defeat this amendment, or else have it withdrawny and the Senator, if he so desires to purchase building, speak with the director of CMS. We passed legislation creatin: What is called C0Ps -- or -- last year, which is a mechanism of buying property for the State of 1 Illinois with bonds issued. It saves a 1ot of money, and if you would talk to him, I think youdre going to find that therels going to be a buy of property in the vicinity of this area in the new -- I near futureg and we should incorporate, perhaps, the buildin: that youdre Ealking about with COPs and save the General Revenue money.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll. Senator Davidson, to close.

Well. I urge you vote to adopt this because we 've already paid tWo years' rent. We already paid a hundred and sixty thousand dollars, in round figuresp on just renting this buildin: I 245  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 with nothing, and the idea behind this, to take it out of General Revenue. We will be saving General Revenue Funds over the years, and the reason to purchase With this, is that there would be no interest paid as if we go to certificate of participation, which would be under the CMS. This is a recommendation from the agency. I donlt have any handle one Way or the other, but this is a way they thought they could wind up saving money in the future out of General Revenue Fund. I urge the adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question isz shall Amendment No. 5 be adopted. All in favor, vote Aye. All opposed: vote Nay. Voting 's open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted Who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 28 Ayes, and 28 Nays, and the amendment's not adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 417. Senator Topinka. Read the bill.

Senate Bill 417. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Carroll offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is productivity factory that's all it does. It's a 246  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 seven thousand dollar six hundred -- seven thousand six hundred dollar reduction. I Would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge.

rise in opposition to the amendment, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendment No. l be adopted. A1l in favor, vote Aye. All opposed, vote Nay. Votingls open. Have all voted who wish? Clerkr take the record. On this question, there are 29 Ayes, 28 Nays. The amendmentls adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns.

Thank -- thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Floor Amendment No. 2 simply takes a11 GRF operating lines, other than personal services, to the PY'89 estimated expenditure levels, at a savings of seventeen thousand -- four hundred dollars. Would urqe its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge.

I rise in opposition to the amendment, Mr. Presidenk, and would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendment No. 2 be adopted. All in -- favor, vote Aye. All opposedy vote Nay. Voting 's open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 29 Ayes, 28 Nays and -- and the 247  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989 amendment's adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Etheredge.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members. This amendment makes a sixty-two thousand dollar reduction in GRF Punds. It reduces personal services and related lines and also -- contractual service lines of thirty-three hundred dollars. The total reduction is sixty-two thousand. I'd request a favorable consideration.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President. Parliamentary inquiry. I believe the amendment is technically incorrect -- because of the adoption of prior amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) We 'll look at the amendment, please. Let me look at the other amendment, too.

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) No . No. Let me look at the amendment. I need -- I need the other amendment as welly please. You talking about Severnsl amendment or yours, Howie? Both. Take care of that in Enrolling and Engrossing. Amendmentls fine. Read the amendnent, yeah. The question isr shall Amendment No. 3 be adopted. A1l in favor, signify by saying Aye. Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 3's adopted. Any further amendments?

248  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 418. Senator Topinka.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Read Ehe bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bi11 418. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Readinq of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Carroll offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the phase-in of the new employees. I Would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Amendment No. 1. Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition to the amendment: and Would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Al1 right. Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted Who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 29, the Nays are 28. Amendment No.l is adopted. Further amendments? 249  STATE OF ILLINOIS I 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Severns. SENATOR SEVERNS: I Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. This -- l amendment simply eliminates a long-term vacancy. It's the Correspondent 11 position: at twenty thousand nine hundred dollars. I would urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Severns has moved for the adoption of Amendment No. 1. Is there discussion? Senator -- if nok, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 2 is adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President. This is the productivity amendment to free up that unused money for other purposes. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Amendment No. 3. Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition to the amendment, and would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Etheredge has requested a roll call. Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Amendment No. 3. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who 250  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legkslative Day May 24g 1989 wish? Eave a11 voted Who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 29, the Nays are 28,* none voting Present. Amendment No. 3 is adopted. Purther amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Severns.

Thank youe Mr. President. Amendment No. 4 simply reduces all operating lines to the FY189 estimated expenditure levelse at a savings of sixty-three thousand one hundred dollars, all GRF. I would urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Discusyion? Senator Etheredge.

I rise in opposition to the amendment, would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Is there leave for the last one? A1l right. Senator Severns has moved for the adoption of -- of Amendment No. 4. Those in favor will indicate by voting Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted Who wish? Have al1 voted Who wish? Have a11 voted Who Wish? Have all voted Who Wish? Take the record. The -- on that questiony the Ayes are 29, the Nays are 28. Amendment No. 4 is adopted. Senator Etheredge request SENATOR ETHEREDGEZ request a verification of the affirmative.

PRESIDING OPEICER: (SENKTOR DEMUZIO) Al1 right. Senator Senator Etheredge has requested a verification - of the affirmatkve, Senator Etheredge? Secretary will -- read khose that voted in *he affirmative.

251  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 The following Members voted in the affirmative: Alexander, Berman, Brookins, Carroll, Collins, Daley, D'Arco, del Valle, Demuzio, Thomas Dunn, Hall, Holmberq, Jacobs, Jones, J.J. Joycez Kelly, Lechowiczr Luft, Marovitz, Netsch, Newhouse, O 'Danielp Rea, Severns, Smith, Vadalabene, Welchz Zito and Mr. PresidenE.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Etheredge, you question the presence of any Member that voted in the affirmative?

Yes. Senator Marovitz.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Marovitz on the Floor? Senator Marovitz is right in front of Senator Daley's desk.

Senator Jones?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Jones on the Floor? Senator Jones on the Floor? Senator Jones? Strike his name. Senator Jones is on the Floor; restore him. A11 right. On a verified roll call, the -- there are 29 Yeas, 28 Nays, none votinq Present. Amendment No. 4 is adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 420. Senator Karpiel. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is SenaEe Bill 4-2-0, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 420. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Any amendments from the Eloor? 252  I I ' I STATE op rLLlxors I 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35*h Legislakive Day May 24, 1989 SECRETARY HAWKER : Senator Severns offers Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Severns. SENATOR SEVERNS: Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Ploor Amendment No. 1 skmply elimknates funding for a long-term vacancy in the Arbitrators Division, at a total of fifty-nine thousand dollars. This position has been vacant for over a fiscal year, and that's why we're offering to eliminate it. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Severns has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1. Is there discussion? Senator Etheredge. SENATOR ETHEREDGB: Yes, Mr. President. rise in opposition to the amendment, and would request a roll call. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senakor Severns has moved the adoption of -- of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 420. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted Who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, Ehe Ayes are 29, the Nays are 29g none voting Present. Amendmenk the amendment fails. Further amendments; SCCRETARY HAWKER : Amendment No. 2 offered by fenator Carroll. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll. SENATOR CARROLL: Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is a productivity, one percent amendment, to free up Ehe money for educatlon and all. I would move its adoption. 253  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th LegkslaEùve Day May 24, 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Amendment No. 2. Is there discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All rlght. Senator Carroll has Moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 420. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The votinq is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 28, the Nays are 29, none voting Present. Amendment No. 2 fails. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Severns. PRESIDING OPFICERZ (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Families across this State have -- have to tighten their budgets during tough times. Welre trying to do that in the State of Illinois, at least on this side of the aisle, so that We can try to provide more dollars to those critical need areas of this Statez educational funding being the top of the list. This amendment simply reduces operation lines to levels of FY '89 estimated expenditures, at a savinqs of twenty-six thousand nine hundred dollars. I would urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. rise in opposition, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 254  STATE OE ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislatîve Day May 24, 1989 Senator Severns has moved the adoption of Amendment -- Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 420. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted Who wish? Have al1 voted Who wish? Have a1l voted Who wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 29, the Nays are 29# none voting Present. The amendment fails. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Etheredçe. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Mr. President. This is an amendment which reduces funding to the Industrial Commission, fifty-five thousand eight hundred and thirty-two dollars, and it accomplishes that by increasing the deduction for turnover and hiring 1ag to two percent. I Would request its favorable consideration.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

That's fine.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Etheredge has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 4. Those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 4ts adopted. Further amendments?

No furEher amendmenEs.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 421. Senator Etheredge. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bi11 421, Madam Secretary. Read the billy please.

Senate Bill 421. 255  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 2 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989 (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Carroll offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. We have a separate bill for the CHIP Board as a board itself. The Governor had initially included the funding wikhin the Department of Insurance. It appropriately, accordin: to a11 We have checked With, belongs as an appropriation to the Board, so it doesn't have to go throuqh the unusual process that would otherwise happen if it were still within the Department, since we created the Board, and this would eliminate it from the Department because it is covered in its own bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition to the amendment, and Would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senake Bill 421. Those in favor will voke Aye. Those opposedg Nay. The votin: is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted Who Wish? Have all voted Who Wish? Take the record . On that question, the Ayes are 29, the Nays are 28, none voting Present. Amendment No. l is adopted. Further amendments? -

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Carroll. 256  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This would phase in the neW employees, and I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll moves the adoption. Senator Etheredge. Discussion?

Yes. I rise in opposition, and would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 421. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay . The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted Who wish? Have a1l voted Who wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 29r the Nays are 29, none voting Present. Amendment No. 2 fails. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is a productivity amendment because of - again - of Ehe amounks of money Ehat Ehe Governorls Offlce, through *he Bureau of the Budget, actually freezes, and does not allow it to be spent for the War on drugs, education, mental health, children and family services, and I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 3. Discussion? Senator Etheredge. 257  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24g 1989

Xes. I rise in opposition, and would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 421. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted Who wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Take the record. 0n that question, the Ayes are 29, the Nays are 29r none voting Present. Amendment No. 3 fails. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Amendment No. 4 simply reduces lines to the FY'89 levels, with the exception of two items. 0ne is the contractual account, Which reflects increases in utilities, and the other is the travel account requesting the neW employees in that division for Insurance -- Examiners: at a savings of eighteen thousand eiqht hundred dollars. I would urge adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I would rise in opposition to the amendment, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Severns has moved the adoption of Amendment No . 4, Senate Bill 421. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On that 258  STATE OF ILLINOIS i 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION 1 I SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 question, the Ayes are 29, the Nays are 28, none voting Present. Amendment No. 4 is adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 5 offered by Senator Severns. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Severns. SENATOR SEVERNS: Thank you, Mr. President. This is an amendment that eliminates funding for two contracks. One is a contract for twenty-eight thousand dollars to maintain securiky for the department's deposits. It's been eliminated simply because the Treasurer's Office have told our staff that this service can be obtained, at no cost from them. The other is a six-thousand-dollar contract fron -- from an employee -- former employee who moved to New Yorkg and whose services the department thought -- was needed at a level of six thousand dollars to find another qualified minority employee. The total of these tWo contracts to be eliminated is thirty-four thousand dollars at a savings from -- primarily from GRF. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Discussion? Senator Etheredge. SENATOR ETHEREDGE: Yes. I rise in opposition to the anendment, and request a roll call. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Severns has moved khe -- Senator Severns, for what -- Senator Severns may close. SENATOR SEVERNS: Senator Etheredge, I'm not certain -- I'm not -- #ou knou, obviously you don't have to explain your opposition to this sider but I hope you heard the explanation on khe first part of the amendment. Where the Treasurer of this State has said that rather 259  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 than this department contracting for twenty-eight thousand dollars, spending twenty-eight thousand dollars needlessly, thak they could provide the services the taxpayers already pay for: at no cost. At no cost. So rather than spend this twenty-eight thousand dollars for a contract that is not needed, where khe services can be provided by the Treasurer at no cosk. That's *he intent of this amendment, and I don't know what the opposition Would be. I Would urge adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Severns moves the adoption of Amendment No. 5 to Senate Bill 421. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposedr Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have all voted Who wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 29, the Nays are 27, none votin: Present. Amendment No. 5 is adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 6 offered by Senator Etheredge.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Perhaps the -- perhaps the Treasurer, Jerry Consentino: might Want to stick around for awhile. Senator Severns. No, wait a minute. Senator Etheredge. Stiek around.

Thanks. Mr. Presidenk and Members, this amendment reduces funding to the Department of Insurance by seventy-one thousand ninety-eiqht dollars. Those are GRF dollars. -- these are personai services reductions Eo eliminake superior performance salary increases, reclassiflcatlons and three new AFACT positions: and travel is reduced to the FYI89 level. would ask for its favorable consideration.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 6. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor kill indicate by saying Aye. 260  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989 Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 6 is adopted. Further amendments? SECRETAR: HAWKER: No further amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill -- 422. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 422: Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 4-2-2. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the b111. No eommittee amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Ploor?

Senator Carroll offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DKMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This reduces the salary raises to the four-percent level. would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1. Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition. and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Keats.

These guys haven't done an ounce of work in ten years. Why do they have a budget at all?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 261  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35:* Legkslative Day May 24, 1989 Senator -- further discussion? In not: Senator Carroll may close.

Just I -- I -- in line With what Senator Keats said, I think we should be reducin: it, and I would move adopkion of Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) A1l right. Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Amendment No. Is there further -- those in favor will vote Aye. Those oppoged Will vote Nay. The voting's open. Have a1l voted who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Take the reeord. On that question, the Ayes are 28, the Nays are 24, one votin: Present. Amendment No. is adopted. Purther amendments?

Anendmen: No. 2 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll. SENATOR CARROLLI Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of *he Senate. This is a one-percenk productiviky amendment. I Would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Amendment No . 2. Is there discusslon? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition, and request a roll call, Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 422. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted kho wlsh? 262  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENBRAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Have a11 voted Who Wish? Have a11 voted Who Wish? 'ake the record. On that question, the Ayes are 29, the Nays are 28. Amendnent No. 2 is adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Amendment No. 3 simply reduces the non-personal services line to the FY189 estimated spendin: levels, at a savings of thirty-five thousand seven hundred dollars. I would urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Discussion? If not, Senator Severns has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 3. Those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 3 is adopted . Further amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Etheredge.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Etheredqe.

Yes. This is a reduction of ninety-three hundred dollars in GRF. It accomplishes that by cutting COLA increases to khree and a half percent. It reduces retirement accordingly. Reduces contractual servlces by four thousand, and that's about it, Mr. President. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Eeheredge has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 4. Discussion? Senator Carroll.

Only in that: I wonder if it's technically in order, because 263  S'ATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION ! SENATE TNANSCRIPT 35th Legislatîve Day May 24, 1989 of the adoption of the other amendments. We don 't mind the fact that you're reducing them , but we do think it's out of order.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) .a.tmachine cutoffl... Senator Btheredge. .a.tmachine cutoffl... A1l right. Senator Carroll.

If it's read as a further reduction, I support it, and I -- I'd believe it would. In which case Would Withdraw my opposition and support it.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATDR DEMUZIO) Well. That -- that way we won't have to do anything. Al1 right. Senator Etheredqe has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 4. Those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed: Nay . The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 4 is adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 423. Senakor Etheredge. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senake Bill 423, Madam Secretary. Read the bill.

Senate Bill 423. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of khe bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Any amendmenEs from *he Floor?

Senator Severns offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATQR LUFT) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. The -- 264  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRTPT 35th Leqislative Day May 24, 1989 the intent of this amendment is simply to reduce an overbudgeted COLA at the amount of seven thousand nine hundred dollars. I would urge its adoption. PRESIDING OFPICERJ (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

I rise in opposikion to the amendment, and would jusk point out ehae we lre talking about Dram Shop Fund money . The people whodve paid into the fund have requested thak it be spent in thls Way, so I Would request a No votey and a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Okay. Further discussion; If not, Senator Severnsg you wish ko close? Senator Severns.

Senator Etheredge, this does return to the Dram Shop Fund. So wedre not taking it or using it elsewhere. It is, as you know a GRF Feeder Fund, which will go back if -- if not al1 the dollars are used -- and it is simply is -- is a resulk of overbudgeting.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) All right. Senator Severns moves for the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 423. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who kish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. On that questionz the Ayes are 29: Nays 27 and none voting Present and the amendment is adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 2 simply freezes -- 265  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989 operational lines to FY,89 estimated expenditures, reducing the PY'90 budget by forty-two thousand nine hundred dollars. I would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition to the amendment, and would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns, to close.

Simply that we're just trying to save here, and in every budget as wesve already presented. I kould urge adoption of thks amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senaeor Severns moves the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 423. All those in favor will vote Aye. All those opposed vote Nay. The votin: is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voeed who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 29, Nays 29, none votin: Present, and the anendment fails. Any further amendnents?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Reading. On khe Order of 2nd Reading is Eenate Eill -- Senate Bill 424. Senator Schaffer. Read the bill, please, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 424. (Secreeary reads title of the bil1) 2nd Reading of the bill. No eommittee amendments. 266  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86*h GENERAL ASSEMRLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legkslative Day May 24, 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Schaffer. mean, any Ploor amendments?

Senator Carroll offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the one-percent productivity amendment. I Would move its adoption. It's a four-thousand-dollar savinqs.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge. S/NATOR ETHEREDGE: Yes. I rise in opposition, and would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll, to close. Senator Carroll moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment No. l t6 Senate Bill 424. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The votinq is open. Have a11 voted Who wish? Have all voted Who Wish? Have all voted wish? Take *he record, pleases Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 29z Nays 28: none voting Present. Amendmenk No. l to Senate Bill 424 is adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Ekheredge.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senakor Etheredge.

Yes. This amendment reduces funding in ehe amount of fifty-three hundred dollars GRP, by reducing the contractual services for court reporting.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Diseussion? If not, Senator Etheredge moves for 267 i STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 424. Those in favor wi1l signify by saying Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it and the amendmentls adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARX HAWKER: No furkher amendments. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) I 3rd Reading. At the top of Page 6, on the Order of Senate I I Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 425. Senator Raica. Read the I I bill, please, Madam Secretary. I SECRETARV HAWKER: Senate Bill 425. I (Secretary reads title of the bill) . 3rd Reading of the Bill. No committee amendments. I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) , Senator Raica. I'm sorry. Ploor amendments? I 1 SECRETARX HAWKER: I I Amendment No . I l offered by Senator Carroll. i PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) I I senakor carroll. SENATOR CARROLL: I 1 Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the ' ! Senate. This is a savinqs imposed by a one-percent productivity ! I factor. I would move its adoption. I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) j 1 Discussion? Senator Etheredge. SENATOR ETHEREDGEI Rise in oppositiony and request a roll call. PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Raica, you wish td close? A11 right. Senator Carroll moves for the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senaee Bill 425. I 1 Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting I 1 iS Open. Haveal1Voted WhoWish? Have allvotedWhowish? Have 1 I 268 g I k STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day . May 24, 1989 I all voeed who wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary . On that question, the Ayes are 30# Nays 27, none voting Present and Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 424 tsicl (425) is adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment :o. 2 offered by Senator Severns. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns. Amendment No. 2. SENATOR SEVERNS) Thank youe Mr. President and Members of the Senate. This amendment sinply freezes line items to FY/89 estimated expendituresz redueing the FY'90 budqet by eight thousand one hundred dollars. I Would urge its adoption. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Fawell. Discussion? Senator Etheredge. SENATOR ETHEREDGE: Yes. I rise in opposition, and Would request a roll call. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns, you wish to elose? SENATQR SEVERNS: Simply to say that Wefre just trylng to save. These are reasonable requests, these are fair requests and I -- itls hard to understand the opposition. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns moves for the adoption of Senate Bill -- I mean, Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 424 tsic> (425). Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed: vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted Who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary . On that question, the Ayes 29, Nays 28, none voting Presenty and Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 424 <sicy (425) is adopted. Further amendments? I 269  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 426. Senator Donahue. Read the bill, please, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bi1l 426. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Floor amendments?

Senator Severns offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns, on Amendment No.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This amendment simply eliminates funding for a long-term vacancy in the general office. This partlcular vacancy is a Mine Inspector at an annual salary of twenty-eight thousand two hundred dollars. This vacaney has been vacant since Pebruary of 1988. A fifteen-month vacancy. We also reduced the merit comp by five thousand to -- correct an overbudgeted amountw for a total of thirty-tbree thousand two hundred dollars. Reasonable requestz and I would urge its adoption. PRESIDINC OFFICER) (EENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. rise in opposition to the amendment. In part -- principally, because the vacancy to Which you allude, am reliably informed, has been filled. I would ask for a No vote, and would ask for a roll call. 270  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Further discussion? Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACOBS: Thank you, Mr. President. Senator Etheredge, you beat me to the punch. just wanted to rise in oppositione and request a roll call. PRESIDTNG OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator severns, to close. SENATOR SEVERNS: Senator Etheredge: at least based on the information that ke have, this has been vacant since February of 1988. And do you have any -- can you provide us any information, beeause wefre not opposed to the posltion, just the fact that it's been vacant for fifteen months. PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR LUFT) All right. Senator Severns moves the -- SENATOR SEVERNS: - - frankly, Mr. President, that's a question. -- z'é he's willing to answer PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Etheredge. SENATOR ETHEREDGE: Welll be happy to share the information we have With youz Senator. We have been told that the position has been filled . PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns. SENATOR SEVERNS: Just ln closing. we don't -- webve not been provided that information -- PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Severns moves SENATOR SEVERNS: 271 kv  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCAIPT 35:b Legislative Day May 24: 1989 -- and if it hasn't -- if it has been, we'll -- I'm certain welll agree to put back in, but at this polnt we have no information to suggest otherwise. I Would urge adoption.

PRESTDTNG OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns moves the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 426. A11 all thcse in favor Will vote Aye . Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted Who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Take the reeord, Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 29, Nays 30e none voting Present. The amendment fails. Further amendments?

Amendnent No. 2 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LOFT) Senator Carroll, on Amendment No. 2.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is to free up monies that would not otherwise be spent, to be used for the essential purposes. It's a productivity amendment. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SEKATOR LUPT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in oppositiony and would request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) senator Carroll, Eo close. All right. Senator -- Carroll moves for the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 426. Those in favor kill vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The votin: is open. Have al1 voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 28, the Nays are 21 <ske>(29), none voting Presenty and the Amendment fails. Further 272  STATE 0F TLLTNOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns. Amendment No. SENATOR SEVERNS; Thank you, Mr. Preskdent. Tbis amendment simply reduces a11 GRF operation lines to FYI89 estimated expenditures, at a savings of twenty thousand four hundred dollars. would urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. rise in opposition to the amendment, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Further diseussion? Senator Severns, to close.

Simply that -- that we urge adoptton.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) A1l right. Senator Severns moves for the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 426. All those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted Who wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 29, Nays 29, none votin: Present. The amendment fails. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Amendment No. 4. Senator Severns.

273 I STATE OF ILLINOIS I ; 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This amendment removes fifteen thousand dollars in a fund -- funding for a contract with a lobbying firm. This agency has a fifty-one thousand dollar paid full-time legislative liaison, and wepre just not certain why another contract or a contract for fifteen thousand dollars with a lobbytn: firm ts necessary. I would urge adoption of thls amendment. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge. Senator Etheredge. SENATOR ETHEREDGE: I rise in opposition to the amendment, and request a roll call. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Further discussion? Senator Severns to close. SENATOR SEVERNS: Simply that a fifty-one thousand dollar full-time legislative lobbyist within the department should be enough Without adding a eontract for flfteen thousand. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator -- Senator Severns moves for the adoption of Amendment No . 4 to Senate Bill 426. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Those opposed vote Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who Wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Have all voted who Wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. 0n that questionr the Ayes are 27e Nays 28# none voting Present. The amendment fails. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: No further amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Readlng. On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 427. Senator Etheredge. Senate Bill 427. Read the bill, pleases Madam Secretary. 274 I  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislatkve Day May 24, 1989

Senate Bill 427. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Readknq of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Etheredge. Oh. I'm sorry. ...lmaehine eutoffl... Amendments from the Ploor?

Senator Carroll offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladles and Gentlemen of the Senate. This amendment would eliminate the funding of the eourt reporters from the General Revenue Funds, and would add them back, in part: from other sources, so there Would not be General Revenue Fund drain. I would move adoption of Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Etheredqe.

yes. I rise in opposition, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Closing, Senator Carroll. Senator Carroll moves for the adoption of No. l to Senate Bill 427. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who Wish? Have a1l voeed who wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. On that queBtkon, the Ayes are 29, Nays -- the Ayes are 30y the Nays 28, none voting Present, and the amendment is adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 275  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day M ay 24, 1989 Senator Severns. Amendment No. SENATOR SEVERNS: Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Phis ' amendment simply reduees funding for a lonq- term vacancy in the Seientific Division to Step One Level. We're not eliminating it; wedre simply reducing the fundin: level to Step One. And We phased fn the position in at nine months, for a savings of ten thousand dollars eight -- ten thousand eight hundred dollars. I Would urge adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition to the amendmentz and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Further discussion? Senator Severns, you Wish to close?

Roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns moves the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 427. Those in favor will *- will vote Aye. Those who opposedz vote Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have a1l voted Who wish? Have a1l voted who Wish? Take the record, pleasey Madam Secretary. On that questiony the Ayes are 30, Nays 28, none voting Present, and the amendment is adopted . Further amendments?

Amendment No . 3 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns, on Amendment No. 3.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. This 276 ' STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24: 1989 amendment simply removes the amount overbudgeted for a four-percent merit comp increase, at a savings of six thousand six hundred dollars. I would urge its adoption. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Keats. SENATOR KEATS: After a few of my other comments. This is one agency; if you want to take the Judicial Inquiry Board and zero them outz 1'11 vote for it. These guys are so understaffed, their budget is down, they haven't gone up since the early '70s. I'm telling you that this is not realistic. I mean the last tWo amendments were really unfair to them . These guys deserve better treatment. This is probably the most productive agency We have. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Further discussion? Senator Etheredge. SENATOR ETHEREDGE: rise in opposition to the amendment, and request a roll call. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Purther -- further discussion? Senator Severns, to close. SENATOR SEVERNS: I would just like to say, what welre doing here is What Wefve done in every other agency. Wefre just bringing down the merit comp increase to this level. I Would urge its adoption. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator feverns moves for the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 427. Those kn favor Will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted Who Wksh? Have all vote who wish? Have all voted Who Wish? Take the record, -- Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 29, Nays 2S, none voting Present. The amendment is adopted. Purther amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: 277  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll. Amendment No. 4.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is that one-percent productivity factorz and I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. rise in opposition, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LDFT) Senator Carroll moves for the adoption of Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 427. Al1 those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The votlng is open. Have all voted Who wish? Have a11 voted Who Wish? Have al1 voted ?ho wish? Take the record, pleaser Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 28# Nays 29, none voting Present and the amendment fails. Purther amendments?

Amendment No. offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Severns. Amendment Ho. 5.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. This amendment simply reduces operational lines to levels of FY'89 estimated expenditures, at a savings of fourteen thousand six hundred dollars. I Would urge its adoption. Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. The ditto: I couldv Mr. President. I stand in opposition, and request a roll call. 278  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns, you Wish to close? A11 right. Senator Severns moves the adoption of Amendment No. 5 to Senate Bill 427. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who Wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the recordz please, Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 28, Nays 29, none voting Present, and the amendment fails. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 6 offered by Senator Etheredge.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Etheredge, on Amendment No. 6.

would like to withdraw that amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SEHATOR LUPT) Senator Etheredge asks to Withdraw Amendment No. 6, and that amendment shall be withdrawn. Purther amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICCR: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 428. Senator Karpiel. Read the bill, please, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 428. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No commlEtee amendmenEs.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Floor amendments?

Senator Carroll offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll. Amendment No. 1. 279  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This amendment Would leave in the three investigators, but eliminate the other neW positions that are -- particularly those that are General Revenue funded. I Would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

I rise in opposition, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Al1 right. Further discussion? If not, Senator Carroll moves for the adoptioa of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 428 . A11 those in favor will vote Aye. A11 those opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. On that questiony the Ayes are 21<sic>(29), the Nays 28, none votin: Present, and the amendment is adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Amendment No. 2. Senator Carroll.

Thank youy Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate thls would eliminate three of the long-term vacancies . I would move iEs adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) A11 riqht. Senator Carroll moves for the adoption of 280  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 428. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposedy vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted Who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record, pleasez Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 29, the Nays are 29, none voting Present. The amendment fails. Purther amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns, on Amendment No. 3.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. This amendment simply eliminates funding for three long-term vacanciesr at a savings of sixty-seven Ehousand tWo hundred dollars. I Would appreciate you favorable consideration on this amendment.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discusslan? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Further discussion? Further diseussion? Senator Severns, you wish to 'close?

Thank you, Mr.Preskdent. I would just urge a favorable roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Al1 right. Senator Severns moves for the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 428. A11 those in favor Will signify by saying Aye, I mean -- I'm sorry. All those in favor will vote Aye. All those opposed Will vote Nay. The voting is open. e..tmachine cutoffl... Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Have al1 voted who Wlsh? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 29y Nays 28l  STATE OF ILLINOIS ! 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24z 1989 28z none voting Present, and the amendment is adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWEER: Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Severns. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns. Amendment No. 4. SENATOR SEVERNS: Thank you , Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Amendment No. 4 reduces GRF operation lines to FY'89 estimated expenditure levels, at a savings of four -- four hundred and eight thousand dollarsz and I Would urge its adoption. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT): Discussion? Senator Etheredqe. SENATOR ETHEREDGE: Yes. I rise in opposition, and request a roll call. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns, to close. SENATOR SEVERNS: I Would simply urge a favorable roll call. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns moves for the adoption of Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 429<sic>(428). Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposedz vote Nay. The v'oting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have al1 voted Who wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 29, Nays 28, none voting Present. The amendment is adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment no. 5 offered by Senator Etheredge. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Etheredge. SENATOR ETHEREDGE: 282  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASfEMBLX REGULAR SESSION 1 SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Yes. I would like that amendment Withdrawn.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Etheredge asks that that amendment be withdrawn, 'and it shall be so withdrawn. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 429. Senator Madigan. Wish to proceed? Read the bill, please.

Senate Bill 429 --

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LDFT) I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Senator Severns.

We -- we have another amendment filed. ...tmachine cutoffl...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Karpiel, there was an amendment to 7 -- to Senate Bill 428 khat was stapled to another amendment. Senator Severns would like to proceed with that. I need you to ask leave to return that. Al1 right. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 429. Senator Madigan. Read the billy please, Madam Secretary.

Senate 3i1l 429. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESTDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Floof amendments?

Senator Severns offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns, on Amendment No. 1. 283  : STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. This amendment eliminates two vacancies, for a savings of thirty-seven thousand seven hundred dollars. I Would urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Further dkscusskon? Senator Severns, to close.

I would just say that these vacancies have been vacant for nearly a year: and it's a secretary and a correspondent. I think it's an effort to try to eut where We can: and f think this is a reasonable request. I Would urge your favorable consideration. PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR LUFT) All right. Senator Severns moves for the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 429. Those is favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The vottng is open . Have ak1 voted wbo wish? Have all voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. on that question, the Ayes are 29, Nays 28, none voting Present. rhe amendment is adopted and -- Senator Etheredge.

Well, thank you, Mr. President. I believe that there are some folks on the other side of the aisle that are not there. And don't want to be asking for a verification on a11 of these thinqs. Maybe if we simply had an understanding that the switches of absent persons not be voted, then I wouldn't have -- I would not ask for the verifieation.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LZFT) Am I to understand you fre not asking for a verification at 284 I STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24y 1989 this time? e..tmachine cutoffl... A1l right. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Severns. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns. Amendment No. 2. SENATOR SEVERNS; Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the -- the Senate. Amendment No. 2 simply eliminates funds budgeted for the pending desks audits, which I might say, have not been approved by CMS, at a savings of seven thousand two hundred dollars. Would urge favorable consideration. PRESIDING QPFICER: (SENATOR LDFT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge. SENATOR ETHEREDGE: Yes. I rise in oppcsition to the amendment, and request a roll call. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) All right. Senator Severns, you wish to close? Senator Severns moves for the adoption of Amendment No.2 to Senate Bill 429. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted kho Wish? Have a1l voted Who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. on that question, the Ayes are 29, Nays 28, none voting Presentr and the amendment ...lmachine cutoffl... the amendment is adopted. Senator Etheredge. SENATOR ETHEREDGE : request a verification of the affirmative roll call, please. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) All right. Senator Etheredqe. Ring the bell. Wait a minute. Senator Etheredge has requested a verification. A1l Senators in their seat, and the Secretary Will read the affirmative votes. SECRETARV HAWKER: 285  ! ; STATE oF ILLINoIs 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989 The following Members voted in the affirmative: Alexander, Bermany Brookins, Carroll, Collins, Daley, D'Arco, del Valle, Demuzio, Thomas Dunn, Hall, Holmberg, Jacobs, Jones, J.J. Joycep Kelly, Lechowicz, Luftz Marovitz, Netschy Newhouse, O tDaniel, Rea , Severns, Smith, Vadalabene, Welch, Zito and Mr. President. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Do you have any questions of the affirmative vote, Senator Etheredgeg SENATOR ETHEREDGE: Yes, I do, Mr. President. Senator J .J. Joyce. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LDFT) Senator J .J. Joyce. Senator Joyee. Is he in the Chambers. Remove his name, Madam Secretary. please. Further questions? SENATOR EQHEREDGE: Senator Marovitz? PRESIDINC OPPICER: (SENATOR LDFT) Senator Marovitz ln the Chambers? I'm afraid to Say, he's right behind me. Further questions? SENATOR ETHEREDGE: Senator -- Senator Netsch? PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Netsch. Senator Netseh is standing in the back. Further questions? That's it? Please add Senator Joyce to the roll. A1l right. The roll call has been verifiedr the Ayes are 29, the Nays 28, none voting Present, and the amendment is adopted . Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Carroll. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll: on Amendment No. 3. SENATOR CARROLL: 286  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION t SENATE TRANSCRIFT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the productivity amendment. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition, request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) All right. Senator Carroll moves for the adoption of Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 429. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted Who wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record? pkease, Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 29, Nays 28, none voting Present. The amendment is adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns. Amendment No. 4.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of *he Senate. This amendment simply freezes operational lines to FY'89 estimated expenditures, reducing the FY'90 budget by five thousand seven hundred dollars. It's a reasonable amendment, and I would urge your adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in oppositionz and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns. Any other discussion? Senator Severns, to close. 287  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislatlve Day May 24, 1989

Thank you, Mr. President. In FY'89 -- I could have the attention of the Members.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Could we have your attention, please.

In F7'89 there's not a single categorical that has been fully funded. While Wedre going through these steps today, and attempting to be serious about krying to save and make some reasonable requests, we cannot fully fund those categoricals without additional revenue. The requests that we have made are fair. The requests that we have made have not been partisan, because we 've made them across the board in every budget. The savings that We have offered on this side of the aisle today would fund fully the breakfast and lunch eategorical program. What we're attempting to do here is meet the csmmitment that a11 of us aqree upon. Welre not casually oEfering these amendments. We're not casually making decisions. We lre attempting to go about our business in a way that, I thlnk, the majority of us believe We should conduct these budgets. We're asking for bipartisan help and support on these amendments, and we believe that our requests are fair. I would urge adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) I have tWo Senators, and she was closing. Senator Schaffer.

A point of personal prlvilege. We might speed up the hearlngs here if we a11 remember the press is all over at the Gridiron Dinnery so posturing is useless. PRESIDING OPFICER) (SENATOR LUPT) All right. Senator Severns moves for the adoption of Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 429. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted Who kish? 288  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 29, Nays 28, none voting Present, and the amendment is adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 430. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill, please, Madam Seeretary.

Senate Blll 430. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LDFT) Floor amendments?

Senator Carroll offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll.

Thank youz Mr. President and Ladies and Genklemen of the Senate. This is the produetivity amendment. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Etheredge.

rise ln opposition, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll moves for the adoption of Amendmen: No. to Senate Bill 430. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted Who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Take the record, 289  h STATE OF ILLINOIS I 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY I REGULAR SZSSION ! SENATE TRANSCRIPT ! 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 please, Madam Secretary. On that questionz the Ayes are 29, Nays 28, none voeing Present. The amendment is adapted. Eurther amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns, on Amendment No. 2.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. This amendment simply reduees all operating lines, outside of personal services, to FY'89 levels, at a savings of five thouland four hundred dollars. I Would urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition, and request a roll eall.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LDFT) Any further discussion? Senator Severns, to close. Senator Severns moves for the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 430. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted Who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted Who Wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. On that question. the Ayes are 3l, the Nays 26e none voting Present. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Etheredge.

PRESTDING OFFTCER: (SENATOR LUFT) Amendment No. 3. Senator Etheredqe. SENATOR ETHEREDGEJ I Would ask that you please Withdraw it.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Etheredge wlthdraws Amendment No. 3. Further 290 I  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Reading. On the Order 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 431. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill: please, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 431. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No comnittee amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Floor amendments?

Senator Severns offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. I know that Senator Maitland expressed concern earlier With the Ag Premium Fund, and thls is an amendment that simply tries to make some savings there, by phasing in three current vacancies for three additional months, at a savings of thirty thousand four hundred dollars. I would urge adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Further discussion? Senator Severns, you wish to close? Senator Severns moves for the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 431. Those in favor uill vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted Who Wish? Have all 29l  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 voted Who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record, pleasey Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 30, the Nays are 26, none voting Present. The amendment is adopted. Further Floor amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Carroll. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll. Amendment No.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the productivity amendment, in order to provide some more funds for the Ag Premium: et al. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition. and request a roll call.

PRESTDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Carroll moves for the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senake Bill 431. Those in favor, vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who Wish? Have a1l voted who Wish? Have a11 voted Who Wlsh? Take the record. please, Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 21, Nays 28: none voting Present. The amendment's adopted. 29. The ïeas -- Ayes are 29y Nays 28, none voting Present, and the amendment's adopted. Further amendments.

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Severns. Amendment No. 3.

Thank youz Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Amendment No. 292  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 3 simply reduces nonpersonal service line items by fourteen thousand five hundred dollars, again to the Ag Premium Fund. I would urge its adoption?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Dkscussion? Senator Etheredge.

I rise in opposition and request a roll call. PRESIDING OFFICERJ (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns moves for the adoption of Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bi11 431. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted Who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. On that question: the Ayes are 30# the Nays are 27, none voting Present. The amendment is adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bll1 432. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill, please, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 432. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the blll. No committee amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR LUFT) Floor amendments? SECRETARY HAWKERI Senator Carroll offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll.

I Withdraw Amendment No. 293  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll would like to Withdraw Amendment No. Any further amendments?

Senator Severns offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President: Members of the Senate. Amendment No. l simply eliminates one long-term vacancyz for a savings of thirty-seven thousand eight hundred dollars, again to GRF. I would urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFTCER: (SENATOR LUFT) A11 right. Senator Severns moves for the -- adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 42. All those in favor Will vote Aye. Those opposed: vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted Who wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Have all voted who Wish? Take the record, pleasee Madam Seeretary. On that question, the Ayes are 29, Nays 28y none eoting Present. The amendment is adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll. Amendment No.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This would free up almost eight hundred thousand dollars of General Revenue by providing the produetivity amendment. 294  STATE 0F ILLINQIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Leqislative Day May 24y 1989 would move its adcption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Discusoion? Senator Etheredge. Senator Etheredqe. Discussion?

Yes. I rise in opposition, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFTCER: (SENATOR LUFT) A11 right. Senator Carroll moves for the adoption of Amendment No . 2 to Senate Bill 432. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted Who Wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Take the record, pleasez Madam Secretary. 0n that question, the Ayes 29, Nays 28w none voting Present, and the amendment's adopted. Purther amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator -- pardon me. Amendment No . 3 offered bg Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Amendment No. 3 simply reduces a1l GRF operational lines to the FX'89 estimated spending levels, at a savings of three hundred and twenty-five thousand six hundred dollars. Tbis is what welre doing in every other agency, or attempting to do. I Would urge adoption.

PRESIDING OFFTCER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Ethered:e. Discussion? Eenator Etheredge.

Yes. T rise in opposition, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Al1 right. Senator Severns moves for the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 432. those in favor will vote 295  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERZL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legkslative Day May 24# 1989 Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting ks open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have al1 voted who Wksh? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 29, Nays 27, none voting Present, and the amendment is adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns. SENATOR SEVERNS; Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No. 4 simply reduces by ninety-eight thousand two hundred dollars, to reduce three Governor's Office ghost employees at the Department of Revenue. And these three were attempted to be added back ln the Governor's SB 14 -- 414. would urge adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge. SENATOR ETHEREDGE) Yes. I rtse in opposition to the amendment, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Al1 right. Senator Severns has moved for the adoption of Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 432. A1l those in favor will signify by saying Aye. Those opposed -- I'm sorry. Al1 those in favor will vote Aye. A11 those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. .y.tmaehine cutoffl..yHave all voted Who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 29e the Nays are 29, none voeinq Present. The amendment fails. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 5 offered by Senator Etheredge. 296  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Etheredge. Amendment No. 5.

Please withdraw thê amendment.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Please withdraw Amendment No. 5, Madam Secretary. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 433. Senator Raica. Read the bill, please, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bi1l 433. (Seeretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No commlttee amendments.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Floor amendments?

Senator Carroll offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This Would break out tbe appropriation into the tradktkonal fkve dkviskons so we can track the spendînq. It makes no dollar impactg but allows us to observe wherein they are spending their money, and I would move iks adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition to the amendnent and request a roll 297 i STATE 0F ILLINOIS I 86th CENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legkslatkve Day May 24, 1989 call. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll moves for the adoption of Amendmene No. to Senate Bill 433. A11 those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who Wish? Have all voted Who wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 29, Nays 28F none voting Present: and the amendment is adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment :o. 2 offered by Senator Carroll. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll, on Amendment No. SENATOR CARROLL: Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This would eliminate unnecessary neW positions. I would move the adoption of Amendment No. 2. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATQR LUFT) A11 right. Discussion? Senator Etheredge. SENATOR ETHEREDGE: Xes. I rise in oppositionr and request a roll call. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Further discussion? Senator Keats. SENATOR KEATS: Howard, how can you have the nerve to take these out? You've :ot every position of the Fire Marshal now. Xou ought to be adding, not takin: them out. We ought ko be taking them out. Theydre a11 Democrats there. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll, to close. SENATOR CARROLL: If Senator Keats is adding his name as hyphenated co-sponsor 298  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 on the amendment, I Would Welcome it and urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll moves for the adoption of Amendment No . 2 to Senate Bi11 433. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Those opposedz vote Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who Wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who Wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 28, Nays 29# none voting Present. The amendment fails. SECRETARY HAWKER ; Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. Presidene and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the productivity amendment and I kould move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICZR: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll moves for the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 433. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted Who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? -- Take the record, please, Madam Eecretary. On that question, the Ayes are 29, Nays 29, none votinq Present. The amendment fails. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns.

299  STATE 0F ILLTNOIS 86th CENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. This anendment simply takes down operating line to FY '89 levels, at a oavings of a hundred seventy-one thousand six hundred dollars. This cut -- will eliminate requests for videos, extra printing: six new cars and office equipment, but it -- does leave the new lease, travel on a neW intern intaet. I would urge adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns moves for the adoption of Amendment No . 4 to Senate Bil1 43 -- 433. a1l those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. ...tmachine cutoffl...Have a11 voted Who wish? Have al1 voted Who wish? Have all voted Who wish? Take the record: Madam Secretary. 0n that question, the Ayes are 28, the Nays 29, none voting Present. The amendment fails. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading is# in the middle of the page' is Senate Bill 434. Senator Schaffer. Read the bill, please, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 434. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESTDING OFFICERJ (SENATOR LUPT) ...tmachine cutoffl... Senator Schaffer. ...tmachine cutoffl...

300  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENCRAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24# 1989 Senator Carroll offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen the Senate. This is the produetivity amendment ln order to free up some money for needed purposes. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Carroll moves for the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 434. A1l those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted Who Wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 29, the Nays are 29, none voting Present, and the amendment fails. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Severns, on Amendment No. 2.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members the Senate. This amendment simply freezes operation levels at the FY'89 level, allowing for rent and utility increases, saving fifteen thousand three hundred dollars to GRF. I would urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OEEICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition, and request a roll call. 301  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMZLY RECULAR SESSION SENATZ TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24e 1989

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns moves for the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 434. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. ..mlmachine cutoffl.o.Have all voted Who Wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Have a1l voted Who wish? Take the record, please, Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 32, Nays 26, none voting Present. The amendment is adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Etheredge.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUET) Senator Etheredgez on Amendment No. 3. SENATOR ETHEREDGEJ Please withdraw the amendment, Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFTCER: (SENATOR LUFT) Withdraw Amendment No . 3, Madam Secretary. Furkher amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LDFT) 3rd Reading . On the Order of 2nd Reading ls Senake Bill 435. Senator Watson. Read the bill, please, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKER) Senate Bi11 435. (Secretary reads title of the bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Floor amendments?

Senator Carroll offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll. 302  d STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. -- Subsequent to our committee hearing, department did provide us With a breakdown into the nine districts, and I would move adoption of Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition to the amendment, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Al1 right. Senator Carroll moves for the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 435. All those in favor Will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wisb? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 29, the Nays 28, none voting Present. The amendment is adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll. Amendment No. 2. Senator Carroll.

One moment. withdraw

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Carroll withdraws Amendment No. 2. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Severns.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns. Amendment No.

303  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEKBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Thank you, Mr. President: Members of the Senate. A11 -- We 're reducinq al1 vacancies to the entry level salaries -- and those funds wi1l be transferred to the Statewkde Construction Progzam . A total of fifty-five thousand five hundred dollars is .involved. I urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Yes. I rise in opposition to the amendment, and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Further discussion? Senator Kelly.

Mr. President. I'd like -- just want to know what time youdre planning on adjourning this evening? Whatls the --

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) That's not me -- that's not my deeision, Senator Kelly.

Well: Ifd appreciate if you'd find out and let us know.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LDFT) I will 1et you know When I find out. Senator Severns, you wish to close?

Thank you, Mr. President. In in reducing the level to entry-level positions on these vacaneies, welre providing more dollarg ko êvery Eownship road supervisor in Ehis Stake has complained about the need for more dollars for road funds, and bridges, and so on. Wedre trying to provide those supervisors more dollars, and this amendment would help do that. Would urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns moves for the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to 304  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 35th Legislative Day May 24, 1989 Senate Bill 435. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted Who wish? Have a11 voted Who Wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Take the record, please, Mr. Secretary. On that questiony the Ayes are 29# the Nays are 29, none voting Present. The amendment fails. Further amendments?

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Carroll.