Illinois Senate Floor Debate — May 15, 1990

The hour of noon having arrived, the Senate will please come to order. Will the Members be at their desksz and will our guests in the gallery please rise. Our prayer this afternoon by Pastor Robert Hanson, Greenview United Church, Greenviewe Illinois, Reverend.

(Prayer given by Pastor Robert Hanson)

Thank you, Reverend. Reading of the Journal, Madam Secretary.

Senate Journals of Friday, May 4, and Tuesday, May 8: 1990.

Senator Hall.

Mr. President, I move that the Journals just read by the Secretary be approved, unless some Senator has additions or corrections to offer.

Youdve heard the motion as placed by Senator Hall. Is there any discussion? If not, a1l in favor, indicate by sayinq Aye . All opposed. The Ayes have it. The m/tion carrîes, and it is so ordered. Senator Hall.

Mr. Presidentz I move that reading and approval of the Journals of Wednesday, May 9th, and Thursday, May 10th, in the year 1990, be postponed: pending arrival of the printed Journals.

You've heard the motion as placed by Senator Hall. Is there any discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The motion carries, and it is so ordered. Messages from the House.  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRTPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990

A Message from the House by Mr. OîBrien, Clerk. Mr. President I'm directed to inforn the Senate that the House of Representatives has passed bills of the following titles, in the passage of which am instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senate, to wit: House Bills 893, 950, 951: 952, 953, 954, 1055, ' 1477, 1483, 1504, 1555 - pardon me, 1550, 1632, 1817, 1916: 2013, 2173, 2178, 2179, 2181, 2296, 2619, 2822, 2851, 2873, 2900, 2903, 2918, 2921: 2932, 2936, 2938: 2944, 2948, 2950, 2965, 2990, 20 -- pardon me# 3015, 3027, 3040, 3049, 3063, 3070, 3072, 3107, 3112, 3136, 3139, 3150, 3154, 3155, 3164, 3181, 3200, 3210, 3213, 3230: 3242, 3254, 3288, 3294, 3306, 3310, 3316, 3325, 3350, 3355, 3356, 3371, 3372, 3374: 3409, 3411, 3454, 3475, 3478, 3479, 3482, 3506, 3518, 3528, 3558, 3562, 3573, 3578, 3582, 3583, 3584, 3585, 3590, 3591, 3598, 3603, 3628: 3639, 3656, 3659, 3671, 3679, 3710, 3711, 3716, 3717: 3718, 3719, 3720, 3721, 3722, 3725, 3736, 3738 pardon me, that was 3739, 3743, 3749, 3799, 3815, 3817, 3828, 3829, 3830, 3831, 3834, 3842, 3847, 3852, 3856, 3857, 3859, 3874, 3882, 3897, 3918, 3932, 3934, 3949, 3953, 3955, 3971: 3980, 3986, 3994, 4035, 4037, 4038, 4046, 4049, 4058, 4068, 4071, 4080, 4081, 4082, 4085, 4114, 4117, 4118, 4119, 4140, 4151: 4169, 4192, 4202: 4203, 4204, 4271. Passed the Housep May 10, 1990. A Message from khe House by Mr. O'Brien, Clerk. Mr. President I am directed to inform Ehe Senate Ehat the House of RepreEentatives has passed bklls of the following titles, in the passage of which I'm instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senate, to wit: House Bills 2685, 2823, 2959, 3161, 3744, 3752 and 4148. Passed the House, May 1l, 1990.  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 A Message from the House by Mr . O 'Brien , Clerk . Mr . President - I 'm dlrected to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has passed bills of the following titles, in the passage of which I'm instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senate, to Wit: House Bills 39l, 759, 1681, 1859<sic> , 3075, 3085, 3158, 3299 , 3569, 3757 , 3789z 3864z 3870, 3959 and 4220 . Passed the House, May 14 , 1990. , Filed by John F. O'Brien. Clerk of the House.

All right. Those will be shown on the Order of House Bills lst Readinq . Messages from the House .

A Message from the House by Mr. O'Brien: Clerk. Mr . President - I am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has adopted the following joint resolution, in the adoption of Which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senate, to wit: House Joint Resolution l32 . It is a death resolution.

Consent Calendar.

A Message from the House by Mr . O 'Brien, Clerk. Mr. President - I am directed to inform the Senate that Ehe House of Representatlves has adopEed *he following joint resolution, in the adoption of which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senatez to wit : House Joint Resolution No . 1l4 And it is substantive.

Execukive . Resolutions . 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 :

Senate Resolution 1048 offered by Senator Kelly. SenateResolutlon1049offeredbySenatorHawkinson. l Senate Resolution 1050 offered by Senator Hawkinson. Senate Resolution 1051 offered by Senator Rea. Senate Resolution 1052 offered by Senator Dudycz. Senate Resolution 1053 offered by Senator Geo-Karis. and Senate Joint Resolution l72 offered by Senator Daley. They dre a1l congratulatory.

Consent Calendar. A11 right. With leave of the Body, we'll turn to Page 28 on the Calendar. Page 28, Ladies and Gentlemen. On the Order of House Bills 1st Reading. And I would again -- as I'm sure you're aware, we just read in another couple of hundred House bills that the House has seen fit to send over here. If any Member wishes to assume sponsorship, please 1et the Secretary or the Assistant Secretary know: so we can get them off the Calendar and into the Rules Committee. House Bills 1st Reading, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 1220 offered by Senator Welch. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2377 offered by Senator Jacobs. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2388 offered by Senator Jacobs. (GecreEary reads kitle of bill) ' House Bill 2389 offered by Senator Jacobs. (Secretary reads titte of bill) House Bill 2842 offered by Senator Welch. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 3055 offered by Senator Barkhausen. I (Secretary reads title of bi11) 1 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 House Bill 3074 offered by Senator Weaver. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 3180 offered by Senator Daley. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 3195 offered by Senator Vadalabene. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 3196 offered by Senator Vadalabene. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 3246 offered by Senator Brookins. (Secretary reads title of bl1l) House Bill 3248 offer:d by Senator Demuzio. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 3312 offered by Senator J.J. Joyce. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 3336 offered by Senators Donahue and Luft. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 3352 offered by Senator Demuzio. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 3383 offered by Senator Netsch. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 3424 offered by Senator Luft. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 3614 offered by Senator Smith. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bll1 3630 offered by Senator Maitland. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 3940 offered by Senators Demuzio and Maitland. (Secretary reads title of bill) lst Reading of the bills.

Rules Committee. Ladies and Gentlemen, if I can have your attention. WAND-TV has requested permission to shoot some 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 phoeographs from the gallery. Without objection, leave is granted. Resolutions.

Senate Resolution 1054 offered by Senator Ralph Dunn. Senate Resolution 1055 offered by Senator Jeremiah Joyce. Senate Resolution 1056 offered by Senator Jeremiah Joyce. Senate Resolution 1057 and 1058 offered by Senator Jeremiah Joyce. Theylre al1 congratulatory.

Consent Calendar.

Senate Resolution 1059 and 1060 offered by Senator Mahar. Senate - pardon me, senate Resolution 1060 is offered by Senators Mahar and Raica. They're both congratulatory.

Consent Calendar. Resolutions.

Senate Resolution 1061 through 1066 offered by Senator Zito. They are a11 congratulatory.

Consent Calendar. Al1 right. Ladies and Gentlemenz if I could have your attention. We will begin on the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readingy the bottom of Page 2, with Senator Watson's 1491, and continue throush 2nd Readlng. And then I'm sure uill get to the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading. And we will move through that Order, then we Will go to the Recall List that the Secretary's in the process of preparing. And then we have Motions to Discharge that certain Members have indicated they wish to pursue. My guess is We will be workin: until, roughly, five o'clock - somewhere around five o'clock. So with cooperation, we 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 could have an abbreviated week if we can get through it. I would also eall your attention to Page 18# to the proposed Agreed Bill List and ask you to take a look. Senator Philip and I have proposed ninety-nine bills to be included on the Agreed Bill List, subjeet to, obviously, the sponsor and other Members' wishes. Al1 right. We'll begin again. Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Ladies and Gentlemen. I would just call to your attention that Friday is the deadline for consideration of Senate Bills in the Senate. And so those Members who have bills that they wish to pursue: now is the hour. We will again get to 2nd Reading, obviously tomorrow. 1491. Senator Watson. Read the blll, Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 1491. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readin: of the bill.

1-4-9-1. That is correct. Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

3rd Reading. 1508. Senator de1 Valle. 1523. There's been a request for a fiscal note. Has a fiscal note been filed, Madam Secretary?

No.

1532. Senator Jones. 1535. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 1535. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GEHERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legkslative Day 8a# 1990 PRESIDENT ROCRJ Kny amendments from the Floor?

No Ploor amendments.

3rd Reading. 1536. Read the bill, Madam Seeretary.

Senate Bill 1536. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

3rd Reading. 1537. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 1537. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee anendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

3rd Reading. 1556. Senator Maitland. 155:. Senator Schuneman. Senator Philip, do you want to move that for Senator Schuneman? Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please. SECRETARY HAWEER; Senate Bill 1558. (Seeretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990

Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Karpiel offers Amendment No.

Senator Karplel, on Amendment No.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. addresses a11 the concerns that were brought up in tbe Senate Executive Committee. It states that the territory of the authority is changed to run congruent with the boundaries of the Prophetstown Park District. These boundaries were approved by a local referendum years ago. And theyfre the same as the Prophetstown Consolidated School District. It also changes -- it says that the membership of the Authority Board shall be composed of the five members of the Prophetstown Park District, and three members shall constitute a quorum. And the Section addressing the eminent domain is deleted.

A1l right. Senator Karpiel has moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 1558. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?

No further amendments. PRESIDENT ROCE) 3rd Readinq. Senator Barkhausen. 1575. l558<sic>. 1585. Senator Collinsz there 's been a request for a fiscal note. Has the note been filed? has not yet been filed. 1617. Senator Jacobs. 1629. Senator Fawell. 1641. Senator Karpiel. 1644. Senator Thomas Dunn. Huh? 1-6-4-1? The one you waved me off of? NoW we bre waving back on. Read the bill a second time, Madam Secretary. 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15: 1990

Senate Bill 1641. (Secretary reads title of bil1) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Local Government offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Karpiel, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Can I move to Table Committee Amendment No.

Al1 right. Senator Karpiel has moved to Table Committee Amendment No. Is there any discussion? If not: a1l in favor of the Motion to Table, indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. 1 is Tabled. Are there further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Are there amendments from the Floor?

Senator Philip offers Amendment No. 2.

Senator Philip, on Amendment No.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senate Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1641 just adds to the duties of the county auditor. Allows them to audit records malntained by outside vendors Who do business with the counky. Move khe adoption of Amendment No. 1 Ksicl.

A11 right. Senator Philîp's moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 1641. Discussion? If noty all in favor, 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 1644. Senator Dunn. Top of page -- you Want -- wish to call it now . 1647. Senator Etheredge. 1651. Request for a Ciscal note. A1l right. 1701. There's been a request for a fiscal note, Senator Rea. I'm told it has not yet been filed. 1704. Senator Jacobs. 1709. Senator Topinka. Read the bill, Madam Secretarye please.

Senate Bill 1709. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No commiktee amendments.

Amendments from the Floor?

Senator Topinka offers Amendmen: No.

Senator Topinka.

ïes, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendnent No. 1 dedicates ten percent of the money, or any other excess money left after the ordinary and contingency expenses are appropriated, of the nurses fund, whichever ls less: to the Department of Publie Hea1th for nursing scholarships for four years. It is apparently agreed to by all.

Senator Topinka has moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 1709. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment is  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 adopted . Are there further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. skipped 1653, Madam Secretary. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readingy top of Page 4: is Senate Bill 1653. Read the bille please. SECRETARY HAWKER) Senate Bill 1653. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Thomas Dunn offers Amendment No.

Senator Dunn: on Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Mr. President. This amendment, Which is With the consent of the Department of Corrections, mandates that they transmit to the Circuit Clerk each year the amount and an impact statement on the sentencing of an individual to the Department oc Corrections. What it means, in simple language, is that when the court considers sentencing an individual, the court shall make part of that sentencing a statement as to the cost to the taxpayers when ehat individual is sentenced. I urge a favorable vote on the amendment.

A11 right. Senator Dunn moves the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bi11 1653. Discussion? not, all in favor, indieate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990

No further amendments.

3rd Readinq. 1713. Senator Rigney, there's been a request for a fiscal note. 1732. Senator Welch. Also a request for a fiscal note. 1736. Senator Holmberg. 1752. Senator Maitland. 1754. Senator Savickas. 1760. Senator Dudycz. Read the billy Madam Secretary, please. SECRETARY HAWKER) Senate Bill 1760. (Seeretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

3rd Reading. 1761. Senator Joyce. Read the bill.

Senate Bi11...

I'm sorry. Hold Senator Dudycz, for what purpose do you arise?

Mr. President' there Was a Floor amendment filed.

Okay. With leave of the Body. we'11 go back to 1760.

Senator Dudycz offers Amendment No. 1.

Senator Dudycz.

STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 1990 Thank you, Mr. President. The Amendment No. 1 is being offered...

...put it on the board. Hold it, Senator Dudycz, will youy please? 1-7-6-0 on the board, please. All right. Senator Dudycz, on Amendment No.

Yes, Mr. President. Amendment Noa l is being offered at the suggestion of the State Board of Elections. What it does is it provides a mechanism for lotteries for ballot placement petitions are filed simultaneously in the Chicago and Springfield offices. And I know of no opposieion.

A11 riqht. Senator Dudyez has moved the adoption of Amendment No . l to Senate Bill 1760. Is there any discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendmentls adopted. Are there further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 1761. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 1761. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Ploor?

No Floor amendments.

3rd Reading. 1767. Senator Schaffer. Top of Page 5. 1768. Senator Joyce. Read the bill, Madam Seeretary, please. 14  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMDLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislaeive Day May 15y 1990

Senate Bill 1768. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No Committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

No Ploor amendments.

3rd Reading. 1776. Senator Joyce. 1778. Senator Raica. All right. With leave of the Body, Senator Holmberg skipped 1736. Middle of page 4, Madam Secretary. 1-7-3-6. Read the bill.

Senate Bi11 1736. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No eommittee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Holmberg offers Amendment No. 1.

Senator Holmberg, on Amendment No. 1.

A1l right. Thank you, Mr. President. This amendment changes the oriqinal bill. The original bill allowed for any retired physieians who wish to teach in wish to Work in a free medical clinic: to have their malpractice insurance picked up by the Department of Hea1th. This instead grants them immunity from liability, and is therefore more cost-effective. And it works under the Illinois law. It makes it a much better bill, and I recommend its adoption.

15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legkslative Day May l5, 1990 Al1 rkght. Senator Rolmberg ha: moved the adoption of Amendment No. à to Senate 1736. Discussion? If not: all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Are there further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Ifm told that the fiscal note on 1732 has been filed. 1732, Madam Secretary. Check for amendnents. 1-7-3-2. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, middle of Paqe 4. is Senate Bill 1732. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 1732. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Higher Education offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Welch, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Mr. President: thls bill extends from six months to eighteen months the amount of time of a veteran returning to the State of Illinois has ko apply for a scholarship. The original bill was at five yearse the amendment ehanged it to eighteen months. I uould move for adoption of the amendment.

Senator Welch has moved the adoptlon of Committee Amendment No. to Senate Bill 1732. Discussion? If not, all in favor: indicate by sayin; Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendmentls adopked. Are there further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

16  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15: 1990 Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Dudycz offers Amendment No. 2.

Senator Dudycz, on Amendment No. 2.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 2 simply states ehat no State college or university which accepts Illinois Veteran's Seholarships can ban ROTC programs.

All right. Senator Dudyez has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2. Discussion? Senator Welch.

This is an amendment that I would opposer Mr. President. What we're trying to do is help veterans who come baek ko -- I could have some attention over here... PRESIDENT RO0X: All right. IIm going to have to ask the staff to take their conferences off the Floor. And ask the Members to please be in their desks at their desks. Senator Dudyez has offered Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 1732. Senator Welch is objectins. Senator Welch.

Thank you. What we 're tryin: to do is get more scholarships for Illinois veterans. The bill will allow them to apply up to eighteen months after they come baek Eo Illinois, instead of six months. Senator Dudycz has filed an amendment that says that the only way an Illinois veteran can qet a scholarship is he attends a school where the sehool continues to offer ROTC, as understand the amendment. What's happening is many schools are having second thoushts about providing Reserve Officersf Trainin: Corps trainin: to individuals. Now, why a veteran, who has a 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY RECULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Leqislative Day 8a# 1990 scholarship, would want to go throuqh Reserve Officers' Training Corps, after bekng a veteran, is beyond me. And I think khat the amendment has somewhat of a good idea, but it shouldn't apply to this bill. It -- a veteran is going to get a scholarship. It's not really his concern, at that poknt, to go to a school that offers Reserve Offieers' Training Corps trainin: because he's not going to apply for So he doesn't need that training. And Senator Dudycz's anendment says that he can only go to a eollege that offers that training. Now khis doesn't make sense. Senator Dudycz's amendment might be better put on a different bill, bue to prohibit Illinois veterans from getting scholarships to schools that they want to go to, beeause they don't offer a program that the veteran isn't going to take - it doesn't make sense.

All right. Senator Dudycz has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2. Further dlseussion? If not, Senator Dudycz, to close.

Yes. Senator Weleh, you were referrinq to khe wrong amendment. The amendment that I had filed -- if you remember, last Pebruary the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a Defense Department ban on homosexuals in the military. And tWo days laterz khe faculty of Northern Illinois University recommended dropping the Army ROTC Courses from its currieulum beeause the ROTC had been following the Defense Department polkcy. And thks ROTC program at the University has had this particular ban and the Supreme Court reaffirmed its riqhty now the NIU policy makers have qiven khe ROTC program two years to ban its restrictions or face being kicked off eampus. And think that if a university aceepts Illinois Veteran's Scholarships: it should not exclude ROTC programs in its eurriculum. And T ask a roll calle and I seek your affirmative support.

18  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 All right. With leave of the Body. Apparently a couple of additional Members have indicated a desire to speak to this. And I can only hope that in fueure amendments, we'll be paying a little bit better atteneion. Senator Keats.

I apologize. My lioht was on earlier and I accidentally turned ie off. And that was my error and I apologize. I think it's important to remember that this is really an issue of academic freedom. Northern Illinois University is saying to the ROTC program, ''ïou are following the Defense Department rule. You are following the Supreme Court decision. But we 're still going to kick you off, because we don'k like you.l' Well that's interesting. And I admit there are times I'm tempted to do things like that, too. But the simple fact is, they are -- Northern Illinois University's faculty setup, by this aetion, is penalizing patriotie kids who like a military eareer and would like to have an opportunity ko serve in the milikary as an officer. In men and women - the proqram's open to both men and women - Army, Navy, Air Force - and both can join equally. They receive a stipend for doing it. It's a way to help finance their college education, and a way to serve their country. And for Northern Illinois University to try and remove ROTC from campus, When the ROTC program is simply following Pederal lawg verges upon being inane. I mean, it is more than academic freedom . Ie's whether Northern Illinois University says federal laW applies. These seholarships are one of the few ways we have to ge* a message sometimes to the heads of these universities. Northern, who 's normally been very reasonable and I9m no* up here to knock them - they 're a pretty school and theybve done a pretty good job but I'm not complaining. This is an issue where they have gone off on a tangent, and sometimes you have to brinq them up short before they get so far off that they are penalizing their students. And these 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 are students from everywhere in the State Who are simply attempting to serve their country and following the Department of Defense and the Supreme Court rules.

Further discussion? Senator Topinka.

Yes, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Just yesterday, having witnessed my son's commissionin: through an ROTC Program at the University of Illinois, and getting an educakion that he otherwise would not have been able to have gotten, as well as a whole bunch of young men and younq Women Who have not -- would not have been able to have gotten an education, who are turned out into some of the finest people that *e will produee from thts State. For Northern Illinois Universiky to attack that program at this time is not only bizarre and obscene, but personally resent And I can't understand what you fre trying to do, because you uould deny kids the ability to go to school at a time when it is ever so much harder to get scholarship money at the high cost of tuitions. And really have to stand stronqly in opposition: and I would ask everybody in this Chamber to do so. When, indeed, ROTC programs are following Federal 1aW and doin: so - you know to the best of their ability. Don't middle them . This is absolutely not fair.

Further discussion? Senator Kelly.

Thank you, Mr. President. A question of the sponsor.

The sponqor tndkcates he Wilt yield: Senator Kelly.

I 've heard the term Northern Illinois University used several times. Does this amendment apply exelusively to NIU, or does it 20  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislatkve Day May l5# 1990 apply to al1 the universities in the State of Illinois?

Senator Dudycz.

Senator Kellyy this applies to al1 universities. I'm bringin: Northern Illinois University as a case in poinkw because they are the ones that imposed a ban on ROTC tWo days after the Supreme Court made its ruling.

Senator Kelly.

Well, if that's the casey then I have to agree with Senator Welch. I think this is a bad idea, even though the sponsor is well-intended. I think that veterans - and Senator Dudycz has been certainly a leader in this issue - this would place a handicap on veterans, rather than assist them if they could only go to schools that have ROTC. And I don't know how it is now in ROTC. I think Senator Dudycz may wane to respond to this.

Senator Dudycz.

Senator Kelly, I think youdre referring to the amendment that Senator Welch was speaking on earlier, which is not the amendment which is before us. This amendment says that no State college or university which accepts Illinois Veteran's Scholarships can ban RoTc programs. He was referrinq to a differenk one.

All right. Further discussion? Senator Welch.

Thank you, Mr. President. This second amendment is really the same as the first, only reworded. What the amendment does is say that if youire a veteran, you can choose any school except NIU, 21  STATE OF ILLINQIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMELY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5e 1990 because in two years they are going -- they are talking about phasing out ROTC. But the problem is that these veterans won't use ROTC anyway. The veterans - this bill is brought to me by the veterans in the State of Illinois - and they are the ones who wanted the bill. And I don't think they've seen this amendment. And if they did, I'm sure they wouldn't support Because what Senator Dudycz is tryinq to do is restriet the riqhts of veterans in the State. And the way he -- you are Senator. You are restricting them from goin: to Northern Illinois University they eliminate ROTC. And you can't say otherwise, because thatls exactly what the amendment does. By prohibiting veterans from makinq a choice, not only are you prohibiting the students who remaân at the campuses that don't have ROTC from having Reserve Officers' Trainin: Corps programs, they also have no exposure to people who have been veterans. So you're going to end up, Senator, with a campus with no veterans and nobody in Reserve Officers' Training Corps. Absolutely no ties to the military or military history of this eountry. Senator, this is a bad amendnent. Xou've put on the wrong bill. Youlre aiming at the wrong goal here. you're punishing veterans for something they didn't do, that they have no control over, and you 're taklng away thetr rights. It's as simple as that. And we should oppose this amendment.

A11 right. Further discussion? Further discussion? Senator Dudycz, to close.

Thank you, Mr. President. Just briefly. Senator Welch, you're absolueely wrong. This does not put the heat on the veterans. puts it on the universities. No State -- any veteran, with this amendment, any veteran can apply to any State university. What this amendment Will do will tell the 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15s 1990 universities that if you except Veteran's Scholarships, then you should be able to have that ROTC program. Very simply put. This does not put any heat on the veterans. It :oes rlght on to the colleges. I think itls a good amendment, and I seek an affirmative vote from every Member here.

All ri:ht. Senator Dudycz has requested a roll call. The question is the adoption of Amendment No . 2 to Senate Bill 1732. Those in favor of the amendment will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted kho wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted Who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the reeord. On that question, there are 26 Ayes, 26 Nays, none voting Present. The amendment fails. Senator Dudycz, for What purpose do you arise, sir?

I1d like a verification of the negative roll call. PRESIDENT ROCEI That request is in order. A1l riqht. Senator Dudycz has requested a verifieation. Will the Members please be in their seats. Madam Secretary, read the negative roll call.

The following Members voted in the negative: Alexanderp Brookinsy Carroll, Collinsy Daley, D'Arcoz Demuzio, Fawell, Hall, Holmberg, Jacobs, Jones, J.E. Joyce, J.J. Joyce, Rellye Lechowicz, Luft: Netsch, O'Daniel, Rea, Severns, Smith, Vadalabene, Welch, Zito and Mr. President.

Senator Dudycz, do you question the presence of any Member? Senator Dudycz.

Senator Lechowicz.

23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENEQAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRTPT 89th Legislative Day May à5e 1990 Senator Lechowicz on the Floor? Senator Lechowicz on the Floor? Strike his name, Madam Secretary.

Senator Fawell.

Senator Fawell on the Floor? Senator PaWell on the Floor? Strike her names Madam Secretary .

Senator Jerome Joyce.

Senator Joyce on the Floor? Senator Joyce on the Floor? Strike his name, Madam Secretary.

Senator Jacobs.

Senator Jacobs on the Ploor? Senator Jacobs on the Floor? Strike his name, Madam Secretary. A11 right. On that question, ehere are -- khe roll has been verified. There are 26 Ayes -- and Senator Joyce has reappeared. Put him back on the roll call. 26 Ayes, 23 Nays, none voting Present. Amendment No. 2 is adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendmentz.

3rd Reading. Senator Zito, for what purpose to you arise, sir?

Yes. Thank youy Mr. President. A point of personal privilege. PRESIDENT R0CK: State your point.

Todayg in the Senate gallery, we're joined by some eighth 24  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 grade students that are participating in an lllinois History Day. They are from my district, Rhodes School. Their teacher is Judy Henry. I'd like for them to be recognized.

Will our :uests please stand and be recognized by the Senate. Welcome to Springfield. A11 right. The Chair has been informed that Senators Etberedge and Carroll and Maitland and Hall are ready to go on the appropriations, so we will begin. Top of Page 1783. And I would ask the Members Eo pay particular attention. There are a number of amendments proposed to a number of these bills. Senator Etheredge. 1783. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 1783. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No.

Thank youz Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Let me just -- as we've always done when we get to the amendment stage - a very, very brief description. In workins with Senator Hall, Maitland, Etheredqe, yourself and Senator Phillp, the Senate has suggested a balanced budqet approach to budqetinq thks year, recoqnizin: the fact that ehere are noe going to be tax increases, and recognizing the fact that we cannot leave bills unpaid for the next fiscal year. With those two items in mind, we proposed a plan that everyone in this Chamber is aware of, that will save four hundred sixty-three million dollars and balance the budget. In order to do so, We have asked for constraint from government -- from the administration, and have suggested a plan 25  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 that will reduce their budgets by the four hundred sixty-khree million, recognizing that if they have better ideas on how to do iky we welcome those suqgestions. At the same time, weêve asked our oWn Members to constrain from the appropriate distriet considerations that should go into a budgetary process, and to withhold those requests at thls time, until we can find a way to find some addktkonal monies to make sure that districts are appropriately represented in government spending. So wedve asked for constraint from qovernment and from ourselves as well. And with that in mind, on the FY'90 supplemental, I Would offer Committee Amendment No. 1, Which is additional funds requested by the administration, Federal and General Revenue, to finish off this fiscal year.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Discussion? Senator Etheredqe.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I rise in support of this committee amendment. And request that you qive it your favorable consideration. At the same time, I would like to take advantage of this opportunity to reiterate some of the cautionary Words that Senator Carroll has just given. We have here, in the Senate, on a bipartisan basis, w1th the help of the leadership on both sides of the aisle, developed what I feel is a responsible approach to the PY'91 budget. I think it is terribly important thae as We proceed to discuss and -- these appropriation bills, that we do resisk any temptations, at this time, to add amendments to these bills. They are now postured in a way which will enable us to reduce the budget by almost five hundred million dollars. It's terribly important that we continue to implement this program, and that we send over to the House What is truly the considered reflection -- the considered judgment bipartisan judgment - on our 26  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 appropriation bill.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Further discussion? Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. to Senate Bill 1783. Those in favor Will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. is adopted. Further committee amendments?

Committee Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. 2 ls the State Board of Education General Revenue Fund Transfer. I Would move it: adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SSNATOR DEMUZIO) Is there discussion? If not, Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 2 to Senake Bill 1783. Those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed: Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. 2 is adopted. Further committee amendments?

Commitkee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the request of the community eollege boards for their retirement. And I would move its adoption. PRESTDING OFFICERI (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Is there discussion? If not, Senator Carroll has moved khe adoption of Committee Amendment No. 3. Those in favor will  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislatkve Day May l5, 1990 indicate by saykng Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Commieeee Amendment No. is adopted. Further committee amendments?

Committee Amendment No. 4.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank your Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senake. Commitkee Amendment No. 4 was the request of the Student Assistance Commission, used -- formerly known as ehe Scholarship Commission, to allow transfer among GRP grant linesy and I would move kts adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Is there discussion? If not: Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 4. Those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. is adopted. Further committee amendments?

Committee Amendment No. 5.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senake. commiE*ee Amendmene No. 5 kould dgleke the tWo million dollars that was -- we pulled out of the Tax Incremental Financin: Fund and would have deposiEed in General Revenue, and gives it back to the tax incremental dtstricts that created would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Is there discussion? If not, Senator Carroll has moved the 28  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSKMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 adoption of Committee Amendment No. 5. Those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have Commlteee Amendment No. is adopted. Further committee amendments?

Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DCMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. Presidenk and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. 6 Would take from the Department of Nuclear Safety and reduce the monies available out of our W Punds that would have been spent in Wayne County. The board has said they don't want us. We don't want them. We shouldn't be spendin: the money, and 1 would move îts adoptkon.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DZMUZIO) Is there discussion? Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 6. If not, those in favor will indicate by sayin: Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. 6 is adopted. Further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SZNATOR DEMUZIO) Amendments from the Floor?

Senators Collins and Severns offer Amendment No. 7.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Collins on the Floor? A1l right. Senator Severns has requested that that amendment be Withdrawn. Amendment is withdrawn. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 7 offered by Senator Etheredge. 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This amendment will permit a transfer of l.2 million dollars anong various lines in the Supreme Court's appropriation bill. I move for its acceptanee.

PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Etheredge has moved the adoption of Amendment No. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 7 is adopted. Purther amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDINC OFFICZR: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. senate Bill 1784, Madam Secretary. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading.

Senate Bill 1784. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DCMUZIO) Senator Hall.

Thank you. Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senake. Senate Amendment No. 1 is the reduction eo the Governor's level and an additional six hundred and forty-five thousand dollar GRF reduction to implement the Senate's budget plan. I move for the adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 30  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15r 1990 1. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Commiktee Amendment No. l is adopted. Further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1785. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1-7-8-5: Madam Secretarye please.

Senate Bill 1785. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readinq of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senate Amendment No. l is the reduction to the Governor's level and an additional five thousand nine hundred and six GRF reduction to implement the Senate's budgets plan. I move for the adoption of ehis amendment. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor Will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. l is adopEed. Furkher eommittee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING QFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill -- beg your pardon. Further committee amendments?

31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT :9th Legislatlve Day May 15, 1990 No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Jacobs offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Jacobs. Senator Jacobs on the Floor? Senator Hall, are you familiar with this amendment? Senator Hall.

Sir, I Would not want to offer that amendment at this time.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENKTOR DEKUZIO) All right. Senator Rock.

Well, I'm opposed to the amendment, in any event. So: I just ask that we pull it. If Senator Weaver wants to bring the bill back at some point, that's up to him. Ifm diametrically opposed to this amendnent. So in an effort to move along, I'd ask that it be withdrawn.

PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All righe. You've heard the request. The amendment's withdrawn. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1786, Madam Secretaryz please.

Senate Bill 1786. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall. 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senate Amendment No. l is the reduction to the Governor's level and an additional five thousand nine hundred and six -- oh# I'm sorry: I'm on the wron: bill. Go to Senate Bill 1786. This is the reduction to the Governor's level, and an additional one thousand eiqht hundred and eiqhty-one dollars reduction to implement the Senate's budget plan. I move for the adoption of this anendment to Senate Bill 1786.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Is there discussion? Senator Hall has moved the adoption of Commitkee Amendment No. 1. If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have Committee Amendment No. l is adopted. Eurther committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Vadalabene offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Vadalabene.

Yes. Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Floor Amendment No. - would it be No. 2 or No. 17

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) No . 2.

Floor Amendment No. 2. This amendment increases the Eiscal '9l Ineome Fund appropriation by fifty-nine thousand one hundred dollars to reflect a three-year phase-in tuition increase ak SIU Dental and Law Schools. No undergraduate increases are proposed. 33  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day #ay 25r 1990 And I move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Vadalabene has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2.. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 2 is adopted. Purther amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Rea.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rea .

Thank you, Mr. President. This bill -- or this amendment appropriates ten thousand dollars to Southern Illinois University for coal research on the L-star Coal Combusters. This is a new technology that has tremendous potential in residential as well as commercial purposes. And with what's occurring, With the acid rain legislation, this certainly could be a tremendous value to the use of Illinois coal. I would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rea has moved the adoption of Senate Amendment No. 3. Is there discussion? Senator Maitland. SENATOR MAITLAND) Thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. This isy obviously, a raid although a small raid - on the General Revenue Fund. I think in the spirit of the bipartisan aqreement we have, I must rise in opposieion to Ploor Amendmen: No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? If not, Senator Rea may close.

I would simply ask for an Aye vote, and I feel that this is a very small amount and can be shifted around as far as the budqet 34  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5# 1990 as far as priority. And this is a high priority of should be for our State, with coal being a very important resource.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rea has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 3. All in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay . In the opinion of the Chair, the Noes have Further amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Hall.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall.

Thank youz Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. SIU-E presently maintains an East St. Louis Center at the SIU-E Dental Clinic, which provides for healeh care services. There's an area adjacent to the dental clinic where two nurse faculties both LPNS have seen clients since 1988. This activity currently takes place in an o1d hotel room where the facilities are greatly lacking - that is no running water or plunbing whatsoever. In 1989 SIU conducted inquiries about renovating this space for the purpose of establishinq a permanent nursin: clinic. This bill would provide funding for renovation of the faculty and its operation. SIU-E says they already possess adequate personnel to staff the facllity. But because of the situation that is going to confront us, as bad as I hate to see this, I#m not going to present this at this time. That's the policy Ehat we are followlng, so that applies to us a: Well as everybody else.

PRESIDING OEFICKR: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All riqht. Senakor Hall seeks leave to kithdraw the amendment. The amendment is Withdrawn. Further anendments?

No further amendments. 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5s 1990

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATUR DEMUZIG) 3rd Reading. 1787. Senator Davidson. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bi11 1-7-8-7, Madam Secrekary.

Senate Bill 1787. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OPFICSR: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall.

Thank you, Mr. President. Senate Amendment No. 1 is a reduction to the Governor's level, and an additional one thousand eight hundred dollars reduction to implement the Senate's budget plan. I move for the adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor ?ill indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have Committee Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Holmberg offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Holmberg.

A11 right. Thank you, Mr. President. This amendment ineludes five hundred thousand from the Capital Development Fund for reappropriation of an FY'90 Board of Regents appropriation for 36  STATE OF ILLINQIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 planning a buildin: for NIU in Rockford.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Is there discussion? If not, -- sorry. Senator Maitland.

Thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Juse to make sure that both sides of the aisle understand this. This is an amount that was left out of the reapprop bill, and would support Senator Holmberg's amendment.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Holmberg has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2. Is there further discussion? If not, those in favor will indlcate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have Amendment No . is adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDINQ OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 1788. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readin: is Senate Bill 1788: Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1788. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Centlemen of the Senate. This Amendment No. l i: the reduction to the Governor's level, and also an additional one thousand six hundred eighty-five thousand <sicllone thousand six hundred eighty-five) GRF reduction to implement the Senate's budqet plan. I move for the adoption of this amendment. 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor Will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No . is adopked. Further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 1789. Senator Etheredge. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate 3i1l 1-7-8-9, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bi1l 1789. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readinq of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senate Amendment No. is a reduceion eo Ehe Governor's levely and an additional two thousand one hundred seventy-two dollars less the GRE reduction to implement the Senate budgek plan. I move for the adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No . 1. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor Wi1l indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Anendment No. l is adopted. Further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor? 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legkslatkve Day May 25# 1990

No Floor amendmenes.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senator Topinkae for What purpose do you arise?

Yes. A point of personal privilege, Mr. President, and that is to acknowledge -- in the qallery on our right, behind us, I would acknowledge one of my constituents. She had the good sense to move into my district. And that's Melissa Watson-Walker: who also happens to be the sister of Senator Watson.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Will our quests in the gallery please rise? 1790. Senator Etheredge. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readinge Senate Bill 1-7-9-0, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1790. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readin: of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall.

Amendment No. is simply a reduction to the Governor's level. I move for the adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Is there discussion? EenaEor Hall has moved the adôptkon of Commtttee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1790. Those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed: Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. l is adopted. Further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments. 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 1791. Senator Severns. 0n the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1-7-9-1: Madam Secretary: please.

Senate Bill 1791. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is simply a reduction to the Governor's level, and an additional two million<sicltthousand) four hundred thirteen ln GRP reduction to implement the Senate budget plan. I move for tbe adoption of the amendment.

PRZSIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) senator Hall has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No . to Senate Bill 1791. Dtscussion? If not, those in favor w:ll indicate by sayin: Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. l is adopted. Further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bil1 1792. Senator Etheredge. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readinq, Madam Secretaryy 1792.

Senate Bill 1792. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1. 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT :9th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall. SENATOR HALL Thank you, Mr. President and Ladkes and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is simply a reduction to the Governor's level. I move for khe adoption of this amendment. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. to Senate Dill 1792. Discussion? If notz those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Anenoment No. 1 is adopted . Further committee amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: No further committee amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Ploor? SECRETARY HAWKER: No Floor amendments. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1793. Senator Weaver indicates that he wishes to have it called. 1793, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Bi1l 1793. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations offers Committee Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Woodyard, for what purpose do you arise? SENATOR WOODYARD: Thank you, Mr. President. On a point of personal privilege. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) State your point. 41 K  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMDLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990

In the gallery, to the rear, is a school from my district, from Palestine, Illinois, and I wish to welcome them to Springfield.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) If our guests in the gallery will please rise and be welcomed to Springfield. Senator Hall, on Committee Amendment No.

Thank yous Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 1793 is the reduction to the Governor's level. I move for the adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Is there discussion? Senator Hall has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. Those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed: Nay. The Ayes have it. ommittee Amendment No. is adopted. Purther committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESTDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Any amendments from the Ploor?

No Ploor amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1793. Senator Weaver. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1-7-9-4 I'm sorry. 1-7-9-4.

Senate Bill 1794. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readin: of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 Senator Hall. SENATOR HALL Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No. 1 is -- for Senate Bill 1794 is a reduction to the Governor's level, and an additional 9.5 reduction to implement the Senate budget plan. I move for the adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Is there discussion? Senator Hall has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. Those in favor Will indicate by saying Aye. Qpposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Further committee amendnents?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1795. Senator Watson on the Ploor? Senator Watson on the Floor? 0h, yeah, he's in the gallery. Senate Bill 1-7-9-5, Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 1795. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Commitkee on Appropriations offers Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senatey Senators in the gallery. Committee Amendment No. is khe quidelines amendment reducing some General Revenue Punds. would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll's moved the adoptkon of Committee Amendment 43  STATE OF TLLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY RECULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legkslatkve Day May l5# 1990 No . Is there discussion? If not: those in favor will indkcate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Purther committee amendments?

No further commkttee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1796, Madam Secrekary, on the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading.

Senate B1ll 1796. (Secretary reads title of btll) 2nd Readkng of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senakor Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. l is reduction and the reappropriation to the unexpended balance level of three hundred twenty-eàght thousand dollar savings, as well as makin: the guidelines in across-the-board reductions. I Would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. Is there diseussionz lf not, those kn favor will indkcate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Commiktee Amendment No. l is adopted. Further eommittee amendments?

44  STATZ 0F TLLINOIS 86kh GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15y 1990 No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate B1ll 1797. Senator Weaver. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readlng, 1797: Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1797. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No.

PRZSIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. 1 is the guidelines amendment. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SSNATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Comnittee Amendment No. 1. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. is adopted. Further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKER ; No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate 3i11 1798. Senator Philip. On the Order 45  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th CENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 of Senate Bklls 2nd Reading ks Senate Bi11 1-7-9-8, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1798. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations offers Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senake. Committee Amendment No. 1 deletes those programs that would have been created by a new tax or fee. Since those do not exist, ehe new Environmental Challenqe and other program grants have been eliminated by Committee Amendment No. 1. I Would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. Discussion? If not, those in favor will indieate by sayin: Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have Committee Amendment No. l is adopted. Purther committee amendments?

No further committee amendmenes.

PRESIDING QFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Jones offers Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Jones. Senator Jones on the Floor? Senator Jones on the Floor? Senator Carroll seeks leave to have that amendment withdrawn. Is leave granted? Leave is qranted. Further amendments? 46  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5y 1990

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senakor Welch.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch. All right. Senator Jones. Are you ready to proceed? Senator Welch.

Thank you, Mr. President. Ploor Amendment No. 2 deleees the Build Illinois Bond Fund appropriation of twenty-seven million dollars to the Capital Development Fund for the Board of Higher Educatlon for the purpose of constructing and equipping a multi-university center for graduate study and research. At a May 6th meeting this month, the Board of Higher Ed recommended funding thâs project' in spite of much opposition. When the Board of Hkqher Ed appeared before the Appropriation Committee, they had very few, if any, answers to questions posed by members of the committee. As usual, the Director is requested to follow up with information. The Director has yet to follow up with information. When asked how many students would attend the university: the Director had no answer, and still has no answer. However, *he Board of Higber Ed went ahead, on May 6th, and recommended, after the committee meeting, that this project proeeed. The problems with this project, basically, in my opiniony are number one: the feasibility of staffin: this center with visiting faculty is impossible, if not totally impossible. The idea that faculty will commute in from the Northern Illinois University, the U of circle campus, the U of I Champalgn, NorthwesEern Unlverslty, is obviously an attempt to :et this bill -- then later put on a permanent faculty. Studies that have been done by the Auditor General as well as the Western Suburban Regional Academic consortium, do not suggest an immediate need for a high-tech university. A few years back, many of you here remember, we put an enqineering school at Northern Illinois University. The major 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5r 1990 opposition to putting a engineering school at NIU Was that we didn't need it. There Weren't enough -- there was too many spaces for engineers in Illinois as it was. Everybody was complaining that that Was the major objection. We put it in anyway. And now, a11 of a sudden, a few years later, while NIU is building a building for its engineering school, the U of I comes up and says well, there's a lot more space than we originally thought, and n6W they want to put in a graduate degree program for engineering as well. There is not enough support in the State for engineering, by way of skudents wanting to go, to support this project. Iks -- the project had its origin with our bid to land the Superconducting Super Collider. Obviously, we didn't land it. Unfortunately, this program has achieved a life of its own, apart from the failure of Illinois to acquire the Superconducting Super Collider. The need for this project is questionable. At this moment, Illinois Institute of Technology is in the process of constructing a fifteen-million-dollar facility in Western Dupage County. The courses being taught there Would be duplicated by the facility the U of I wants to build. The IIT has offered to combine this facility with the U of I in a multi-universiky package. But the U of I has been recalcitrant in negotiatin: in favor of such a project. In addition, there is an estimate that the multi-university center will serve approximately eight thousand students. If it does, the year after this one, we're going to see Ehe U of I requesting that we start funding this universiky ak 1ts mainkenance level of between ten and fifeeen million dollars a year. In these Eimes, with tight budqets, you can bet that that money is 9oin9 to come directly out of every other university in the State of Illinois. There's not going to be an additional fifteen million dollars appropriated to a Higher Ed budget. There's going to be a budget. just like this year, and there's going to be fifteen million dollars less to appropriate to 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legkslatkve Day May 15, 1990 Illinois State, to Eastern Illinoise to Southern Illinois and every other State university. That's what the ultimate impact of this proposal is going to be. This center Was not among the original proposals by the U of I when they sent letters to every one of us as their six top priorities. Wasn't on the list. The planning grant that we proposed and approved last year has never been spent. Not one dollar. There has been no planning for this. The proposal has been on the back burner of the U of 1. They have nok shared the information with tbe Legislature as to why it's needed. And in fact, there is clearly no need for this project. This is going to be money spent in a year when we donît have the money. A lot of people think that bond funds isnlt - are not real money - theydre kind of funny money because you don't really have to pay for them this year. But even if that was true, there's twenty-seven million dollars that can go to community colleges around the State. Theylre only goinq to get forty-four one-hundredths of one percent per building money this year. There are other projects on the list that have not been funded. The U of I has two other buildings on the list of projects to be built one in Champaiqn-urbana and one at Chicago. So it's not like they're going to be denied the money. For that reason, I would urge support of this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Daley.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. stand in support of this amendment. And simply because of the cost factor. Basically: I believe it is twenty-seven million now in bond authorization this year. And next year I question it Would be -- whether or not it would come out of General Revenue Funds. And as stated before, in this year of tiqht economy, believe we must cut back. And Ifm sure: Senator Philip, eventually there 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15# 1990 Wil1 be a need out in your area, which youdre serving well. And for those reasons, I support this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discusEion? Senator Phklip.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Of courser oppose Senator Welch's amendment. And remind him it's not out of GRF. It's bond money. And it Won't all be spent in 1990. We all know that. And let me say this. It is a school for high techs, master's and doctor's degrees only. And ehis idea was conceived by the University of Illinois and for the business community along 88 -- Highway 88. There are a 1ot of high tech businesses there. And they want to be able to send people who are employed there, who only have a regular degree, over to the University of Illinois Eo finish and get their master's and doctor's degree. It's a good idea. We ought to do And incidentally, there isn't one governmental department in the State of Illinois, that isn't getting more money this year than they spent last year. Not one. Now there are some constitutional officers who are not taking as much money as they did last year, because they're running for election. But every governmental unit in the State of Illinois, will qet more money this year than Ehey did last year.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? If not, Senator Welch, do you wish to close? senator Welch.

Well, that's right. Every department and agency is getting more noney. But Wedre putting another chair at the table to pick up what little additional money there is next year. It's going to the U of I asking for another fifteen million for this multi-university system in Dupage County. Welle business has 50  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 apparently worked somewhat With the University of Illinois. It's odd that Motorola and Amoco are not -- are in opposition to these plans for the multi-university center. This is a duplication of a private university being built in the area. This would be a Waste of State money, in this tight year. You know, we got the argument ''It's only bond money.'' But: you know, those bonds have to be paid back. And it's paid back out of General Revenue. So I think it's a wise investment at this time to postpone spendin: money on this multi-university system. I would urge an Aye vote on this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2. Those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. In the opinion of the Chair: the Ayes have it. Senator Philip, for what purpose do you arise?

Thank you, Mr. President. I think I Would like to have a roll call, if you don't mind.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) You don't trust my judgement. Okay. Senator Welch has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The votin: is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? Have a1l voted who Wish? Take khe record. On that question, the Ayes are 32, the Nays are 22, none voting Present. Amendment No. 2 is adopted. Senator Ralph Dunn, for what purpose do you arise?

Personal privilege. I have an announcement.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Yes, sir.

In the gallery behknd me ts the eighth grade School District 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 49 from Nashville, Illinois, and their leader, Jan Middleton. And I'd like them to be welcomed.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) If our guests from Nashvllle will please rise and be recognized by the Senate. Senator Philip, for what purpose do you arise? Further amendments? Senator Philip? Purther amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Eelly.

PRESIDING QFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Kelly.

Thank youz Mr. President and Members of the Senate. This amendment would provide one hundred thousand dollars in bond funds grant to the Village of East Hazel Crest for a local sewer improvement. I don't ask for very mueh in the Senate, and we get a very small sliver of the State pie when it's distributed. And I request support for this appropriation.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Is there discussion? Senator Philip: for what purpose do you arise? Senator Philip.

Well, here we go again. Another add-on. It's always a little bit of money. And I suggest that the committee did a good job in the first placer and we ought to kill this. END OP TAPE TAPE 2

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Kellye you wish ko close? Al1 52  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89*h Legislative Day May 15, 1990 riqht. Senator Kelly has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 3. Those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. Opinion of the Chair, the Noes have it. And Amendment No. 3 fails. Further amendments?

Amendmenk No. 4 offered by Senator Woodyard.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Woodyard.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. This is another one of these add-ons, except the fact happens that this was added on in 1985, through the Build Illinois Program , and an appropriation was awarded to EPA on a remedial aetion on -- on a Danville cleanup situation. And now that ally finally, five years later, the engineering and -- and the designs and the agreements between EPA and the City of Danville have occurredz the money isnle there, and my only recourse is to be able to offer an amendment of two million dollars to try to replace khat money that EPA had spent earlier on this project.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Is there discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. While I'm very sympathetic to the need expressed by my -- my colleague, I must rise in opposition to this amendment, in light of the the Senate bipartisan aqreement in regard to Member add-on. So I Would ask for a No vote.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Woodyard, you wish to close? SenaEor Woodyard moves Ehe adoption of Amendmen: No. 4. Those in favor will indicate by sayinq Aye. Opposed, Nay. Opinion of the Chair, the Nays have Amendment No. 4 fails. Purther 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT :9th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 amendments?

No further anendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill -- 1799. Senator Topinka. Senator -- 1799. Is Senator Topknka on the Floor? Senator Philkp, do you wish to handle this for Senator Topinka? 1799. A11 right. With leave of the Body, Senate Bill 1799, handled by Senator Philip. Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1799. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. Presidentz Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. l is a guidelines and across-the-board reductions of the Bureau of the Budget of some hundred and twenty-seven thousand GRF, plus other funds. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. Is khere discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have i*. CommiEkeê Amendment No. l is adopted. Eurther comRittee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

54  STATE OF ILLTNOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1800. Senator Etheredge. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1800, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1800. (Seeretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OFPICERk (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank youg Mr. Presidentg Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. 1 does several things. First, reduces operations under the guidelines we've established as to no new programs and across-the-board, and it addition to that, it does add the kwenty-five million dollars of General Revenue Funds to fully fund the group insurance program so that bills will not have to be paid in the following fiscal year. I Would move its adoption.

Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 1800. Discussion? If not, all in favorz indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendmenks?

No further committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

Senators Severns and Collins offer Amendment No . 2. 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990

Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Floor Amendment No. 2 breaks out the tWo hundred and twenty-three thousand dollars GRF from ehe Annual Employee Benefik Review Program into a separate line item. I would move for its adoption.

All right. Senator Severns has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 1800. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicate by sayin: Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?

Anendment No. 3 offered by Senator Collins.

Senator Collins. Senator Collins requests that that be withdrawn. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 1801. Senator Schaffer. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 1801. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Commi*Eee on Appropriakiong I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Mr. President. Committee Amendment No. l is the guidelines amendment. It's a reduction of 56  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 some thirty thousand dollars. I would move its adoption.

A1l right. Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. to Senate Bill 1801. Discussion? not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

3rd Reading. 1802. Senator Schaffer. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 1802. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. is the guidelines amendment as previously defined. would move its adoption.

Senator Carroll's moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. to Senate Bill 1802. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15# 1990 No further committee amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKER: Senators Carroll and Vadalabene offer Amendment No. 2. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Carroll. SENATOR CARROLL: Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is a reallocation from science and technology grants to fund the annual dues to NIPC and SWMPC. I would move its adoption. PRESIDENT ROCK: All right. Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 1802. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Rea. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Rea, on Amendment No. 3. SENATOR REA: Thank you, Mr. President. This is not an add-ony this is strictly a reallocation of five thousand dollar grant to Roll Call 990, a veterans gatherinq which will be held at the Duouoin State Pairgrounds. This is held in July. It is needed -- they need the money to be able to pay those bills, and I would move for its adoption. PRESIDENT ROCK: A1l right. Senator Rea has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 1802. Discussion? Senator Etheredge. . SENATOR ETHEREDGE: 58  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I rise in opposition to this amendment. While it is true that this is simply an allocation of existing money, in effect it does reduce the total allocation so that other grant proposals that will be submitted later on will nok have the opportunity to compete for some of these dollars. I I think that in the interest, again, of opposing Member amendments, I would ask for you to defeat this one.

A11 riqht. Senator Rea has moved the adoption of Anendment No. 3. Do you wish to close, Senator Rea?

Xes, Mr. President. might just respond by saying that simply the only reason that I -- that this grant was not given this year, Was because it kas too late -- setting in, and the event is in July, so they need the moneys early. And I Would ask for your adoption.

All right. Senator Rea's moved the adoption of Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 1802. A1l in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The opinion of the Chair, the Noes have it. Amendment No. fails. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senators Severns and Jacobs.

Senator Severns, AmendmenE No. 4.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Floor Amendment No. 4 adds language clarifying that grants to labor management committees and the small business developnent centers are for existing centers and committees. I Would move its adoption. 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990

A1l right. Senator Severns has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 1802. Discussion? If not: all in favor, indicate by sayinq Aye. A11 ogposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?

Amendment No. 5 offered by Senator Brookins.

Senator -- pardon me, Senator Brookins. Senator Smith, for what purpose do you arise, ma'am?

I -- I stand of a point of personal privileqe, please. I see my Senator just entering the room, Senator Jones. But these young people Who are here for the history program today reign from his area, and they are the Marcus Garvey School out at a 109th Street.

Will our guests in the gallery please stand and be recognized. Welcome to Springfield. Senator Brookins, for what purpose do you arise, sir?

Thank you, Mr. President. I rise on a point of personal privilege.

State your point, please.

Thank you. We havê ak genaEor Ethel Alexander's desk, Alderman Bobby Rush, Committeeman of the Second District, and also First Congressional District Committeeman.

Alderman Rush, welcome to Springfield. Nice to see you.

left off half his title, he's also Deputy Committeeman of 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 Cook County Democratic Party.

All right. Amendment No. 5. Senator Brookins.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 5 asks for two hundred and thirEy-five thousand dollars to be added to the DCCA budqet to open up an operating trade office in Zaire, Africa . As we know, Zaire is the third largest country on the African continent. It won independence from Belgium in 1906, and continues to make efforts towards improving the economics under the leadership of President Mobutu. French is the national languaqe, and three quarters of the population is Christian. One of the world's largest rain forests covers the northern portion of this country, which is drained in the Congo River flowing through the Capital of Kasmir, before entering the Atlantic to the Port of Buta. A nation rich in natural resources, Zaire is the World's leading producer of copper and the leading producer of industrial diamonds. Given its rich natural resources, Zaire has unlimited investment potential for Illinois business.

All right. Senator Brookins has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 5 to -- I'm sorry. Senator Brookins. SENATOR BROOKINSI Thank you, Mro.president. Ae this time I wish to ask thak we would -- in light of our budget restrictions to withdraw this amendmenE. And we'll have...

A1l right. Senator Brookins asks leave to withdraw the amendment. The amendment is Withdrawn. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 5 offered by Senaeor Luft.

61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5# 1990 Senator Luft. Senator Luft, on Amendment No. 5.

Thank you -- thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 5 is an addition of one million dollars to a reappropriation - I want to emphasize ''reappropriation.'' There was a commitment made to this project of four and a half million dollars. It was in the reappropriation at three and a half million dollars, and therefore I'm trying to reflect the commitment of DCCA by increasinq by one million dollars.

All riqht. Senator Luft has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 5 to Senate Bill 1802. Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I rise in opposition to the amendment. I think everyone that has a civic center that they 're looking for funding that -- and is noW on that list, ought to pay attention to what this does. It does not it increases the total allocation to the Peoria Civic Center Authority. It does not increase the bottom line number of dollars. So it has the potential, if this is approved, to take money away from other -- monies that have been allocated to other civic center authorities. I would ask for your No vote on this amendment.

A1l right. Senator Luft has moved the adoption of Amendment No. Senator Luft, do you wish to close?

Thank you thank you, Mr. President. I hope that Senator Etheredge would further explain the situation of the funding for civic centers. We have appropriated a hundred and eight million dollars or thereabouts, and have bonding capacity for only about ninety. So there's going to be many civic centers that may not 62  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 :et their noney. The only thin: that I'm trying to do is to add the commitmenk that was made to my civic center by four -- not by four and a half million -- up to four and a half million dollars. My civlc center may never get the four and a half million dollars, and I'm fully aware of that, and I'm willing to accept the judgmenk of whomever's passin: on it. All I'm asking for is the commitment be met and I hope you Would help me with that commitment.

All riqhk. Senator Luft has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 5 to Senate Bill 1802. All in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed -- in the opinion of the Chairy the Noes have Amendment No. 5 - it fails. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 6 offered by Senator Brookins.

Senator Brookins, on Amendment No. .6. SENATOR Brookins: Thank you, Mr. President. This is a bill that asks for a million dollars that we passed last year, by thio Senate. But due to the budgek restraints and your good leadership, 1'11 withdraw this amendment.

Senakor Brookins has withdrawn -- asks leave to withdraw the amendment. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Senator Luft, for what purpose do you arise?

Senator Rock, I -- I was trying to get a roll call on my amendment. I usually don't ask for that, but I Was trykng to get 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 your attention to that and I would hope that if I have any other amendments that I lose, in my judgment, I would like to have a roll call.

Beg your pardon. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 1803. Senator Etheredqe. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1803. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Etheredge. Committee Amendment No. 1. Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Commietee Amendment No. l is the guidelines amendment elininating the program expansion and imposing the guidelines and across-the-board cuts. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. All in favor, indicaEe by saylng Aye. Opposed, Nay. The amendment is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Floor?

64  I ' STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89thLegislativeDay May15,1990 Senators Luft and Vadalabene offer Amendment No. 2. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Luft. Committee -- Floor Amendment No. 2. SENATOR LUFT: Thank you, Madam President. Senator -- this is not General Revenue Funds, by the way, and Senator Vadalabene and Ir for the last year, have been meeting on our various projects in our districts With the Department of Conservation. The Department of Conservation informs us that these two projects could be funded in '92 or '93. We hope that the money will be available in this year. We are told it could be, and therefore we'd like to include it in the budget - one and a half million dollars is from the Park and Conservation Pund Capital appropriation for the East Peoria Harbor and one million dollars for development of Senator Vadalabene's Martna in Alton. I would try to answer any questions, otherwise move for the adoption of the amendment. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Eurther discussion? Senator Carroll. SENATOR CARROLL: Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I reluctantly rise in opposition of this amendment, as Senator Etheredge has said with Members' amendments on his side, We had agreed to withhold any Membership spending at a time welre trying to cuk four hundred and sixty-three million dollars out of the budget. While this is a -- a fund created, it is monies that would be Members' amendments. At this time we don'k have it. As we move through the process, we hope to be able eo find a way to let those who should be allocating, Which I believe to be the Members, allocate, but at this timey we do not have the money, and I would urge opposition to the amendment. PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Luft. I 65  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Leqislative Day May l5, 1990

Close?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) To close, yes.

Thank you, Madam President. I can only add - and this is the second time that I've gokten up on this. If this is the way you want to do it, itfs fine With me. And I usually don't attempt to pursue Member amendmentsr in fact I left bills in committee with everybody else. But these amendments - the one that I had for the civic center and this amendment for Senator Vadalabene and 1, on this pointz in my view, and I have been told, have been agreed to by the agency, and there is a possibility of funding this within the agency. So that's a1l I can say. ïou do whatever you wish.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Luft has moved the adoption of Floor Amendment No. 2. All in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. Opinion of the Chair, the Nays have it. The amendment fails. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Vadalabene. PRESIDING OFFI/ER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Vadalabene.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. What ammndmenE ls ehis now?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Amendment No. 3.

Al1 right. Amendment No. 3 appropriakes one million dollars from the Capital Development Fund for the Department Conservation for the Alton Lake Heritage Parkway. And I move for 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 its adoptton.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Vadalabene moves the adoption of -- of Amendment No. 3. All in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. Opinion of the Chair, the Noes have it. The amendment failed. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Etheredge.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Madam President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate . This ks a technical amendment. lt corrects a drafting error in Committee Amendment No. 1. I move for 1ts adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Etheredge moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 4. A11 in favor, indicate by sayinq Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 6 offered by Senator Etheredge -- pardon me. Amendment No. 5 offered by Senator Etheredge.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Amendment No. 5. Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Madam President. This is a language change only. Ik has no monetary impact. What i* does ks Eo make a languaqe change to provide for the possible repeal of the ATV Act. I would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Etheredge moves the adoption of -- of Amendment No. 5. All in favor, indicate by saylng Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Any further amendments? 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990

Amendment No. 6 offered by Senator Etheredge.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Amendment No. 6, Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Madam President. What this amendment does is to make it possible for the Department of Conservation to spend four hundred thousand dollars in private funds, which they will be receiving through Ducks Unlimited. I would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Etheredge moves the adoption of Amendment No. 6. A11 in favory indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading: Senate Bill 1804. Senator Etheredge. 1804. Read the bill, Madam Secrekary.

Senate Bill 1804. (Secretary reads title of bk1l) 2nd Readin: of the bill. The Committee on AppropriaEions I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carrollz on Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Madam President. Committee Amendment No. l is the guidelines and across-the-board amendments. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Amendment No. 1. All in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 The amendment is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Ploor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. 0n the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1805. Senator Schaffer. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Genate Bkll 1BG5. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll, Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Madam President. Committee Amendment No. l is the elimination of the new programs and an application of the guidelines. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No . 1. Al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICZR: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any Floor amendments? SjCRETARY HAWKER: Senator Schaffer offers Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 Senator Schaffer, on Amendment No. 2.

Madam President, Members of the Senate. This is a technical amendment at the request of the Department that will not increase the Department's authority to incur new obligations. It's necessary to allow the Department of Employment Security to disburse funds after June 30th, 1990, to meet approximately 10. 1 mîllion in authorized obligations for this fiscal year.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Schaffer moves the adoption of Committee of Amendment No. 2. A11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1806. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1806. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No.

Why, thank you, Madam President. Committee Amendmen: No. l is a request from the Bureau of the Budget to add money for compukerized data base - some thirty thousand of speckal funds. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 1. Al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Any further amendments?

Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 2.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies -- Madam President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. 2 is the commission request to allow the operating expenses of the Attorney General 's action in pursuing environmental protection for travel and other expenses. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of -- of Committee Amendment No. 2. A11 in favorz indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any Floor amendments?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Readinq. On khe Order of 2nd Reading, Senake Bil1 1807. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1807. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSTON SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 Senator Carrollz on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Madam President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. l Would eliminate the Environmental Challenge Program and inasnuch as the revenue enhancer will not exist -- and applies the other guidelines, reducinq expansion, et cetera. I would move iks adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. All in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposede Nay. The Ayes have it, and the amendment is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRCSIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any Floor amendments?

No Ploor amendments.

PRDSIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1808. Senator Donahue. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1808. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readin: of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from *he Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1809. Senator Raiea. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

72 ! STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislakive Day May 15: 1990 ! Senate Bill 1809. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) At the request of the sponsor, he would like to withdraw -- hold the bill at this time. So we dll take it out of the record. On the Order of 2nd Readingz Senate Bi11 1810. Senator Topinka. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Bill 1810. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 1. SENATOR CARROLL: Thank you, Madam President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. 1 is the guldelines and across-the-board reductions of the Department. I would moves its adoption. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1810. Al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposedr Nay. The Ayes have it, and the amendment is adopted. Any furEher commit*ee amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: - No further committee amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKER: No Floor amendments. 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. Senator Berman.

Thank you -- thank you, Madam President. On a point of personal privilege. In the gallery to my left are some students and parents from St. Gertrude's School in Chicago. Amon: the parents is -- is Delores Flaherty. May We welcome you to the Illinois Senate.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Wi1l our guests please rise and be accepted by the Senate. On the Order of 3rd <sic> Readinq. Senate Bill 1811. Senator Topinka. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1811. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll, on CommikEee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Madam President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. is the guidelines and across-the-board reduction amendments, as explained before. would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SCNATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1811. A11 in favor, indicate by sayinq Aye. Opposed, 'ay. The Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Any further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Leqislative Day May l5, 1990 Any amendments froa the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 3rd Reading -- 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1812. Senator Karpiel. Read the bill.

Senate Bill 1812. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readin: of the bill. The Committee on Appropriaeions I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carrolly on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Madam Presldent and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senaee. Committee Amendment No. 1 is the guidelines and across-the-board reductions of the Industrial Commission: recognizinq that we did approve some new programs: and I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll moves the adoption the adoption of Committee Amendment No. to Senate Bill 1812. A11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have The amendment is adopted. Any further amendments?

No furEher committee amendmentg.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Ploor?

No Floor amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1813.  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 Senator Karpiel. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1813. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriation: I offers Commitkee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Madam President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. is the guidelines amendment eliminating some expansion and making the across-the-board reductions. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No . to Senate Bill 1813. All in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Ploor?

No Ploor amendments. PREEIDZNG OFFICERI (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On Ehe Order of 2nd Readlng, Eenate Bill 1814. Senator Schaffer. Read the bill, Madam Seeretary.

Senate Bi1l 1814. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of Ehe bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1. 76  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5e :990

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you again, Madam President. Committee Amendment No. 1 is the guidelines and across-the-board reductàons to the Local Labor Relations Board. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. to Senate Bill 1814. All in favory indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Any further committee amendments?

No further eommittee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKERJ No Floor amendments. PRESIDING OFFICERJ (SENATOR COLLIXS) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Readinq, Senate Bill 1815. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1815. (Secretary reads tltle of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINZ) Senator Carrolly on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Madam President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendmenk No. is the guidelines amendment eliminatin: the new initiative, and I would move its adopkion. PRESIDING OFFICERJ (SENATOR COLLINS)  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1815. A11 in favor: indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have The amendment is adopted. Any further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1816. Senator Maitland. Read the bill, Madam Secretary . SECRETARY HAWKERI Senate Bill 1816. (Secretary reads tttle of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLTNS) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1817. Senator Madigan. Read the bill, Madam Secretary .

Senate Bill 1817. (Secretary reads title of bi1l) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 Why: thank you, Madam President. Committee Amendment No. makes guideline and across-the-board reductlons in Military Affairs. I would move ies adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendmenk No. 1 to Senate Bill 1817. Al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Qpposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Any further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Ploor?

No Floor amendaents.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Readingz Senate Bill 1818. Senator Ekheredge. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1818. (Secrekary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriation I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll, Commiktee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Madam President and Ladies and Gentlemen Of the Senate. The Department of Nuclear Safety Committee Amendment No. l would be the guidelines and across-the-board reduction. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 1818. A11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. 79  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th LeçislatLve Day May l5, 1990 Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The amendment 1G adopted. Any further committee amendments?

Committee Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Committee Amendment No. 2, Senator Parroll.

Thank you, Madam President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. 2 would renove the Wayne County cost from the Low-Level Waste Program. A:ain, the Wayne County Board had said they donlt want it; therefore, we shouldn't be spending money, other than the money necessary to cap the wells that we have placed there. That money has been left in, but the money that would have qone in discretionary and other fundinq, we have removed. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll moves *he adoption of Committee Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 1818. A1l in favor: indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay . The Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Any further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from ehe Floor?

Senator Woodyard offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Woodyard, Amendment No. 3.

Thank you, Madam President and Members of the Senate. Well, this is certainly not an add-on amendmentp although it is certaànly a Member's amendment. What this amendment would do is 80 I STA'E 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 to remove five million dollars for land aequisition for a low-level radioactive waste storage site. And due to Senator Severns' amendment, this amendment applies to -- eo the Martinsville Site. My rationale for doin: this is rather twofold, and some would say thate yes, I may be slowin: down the process -- the siting process of a low-level radioactive waste storage site with this amendment, and I may be. I may very well be. But Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, I have a high degree of eoncern, particularly since this is the only site left in the State, and this may be the only recourse I have to try to slow down this entire process. TWo years agoz the Director of the Department of Nuclear Safety indicated to me that they needed a thousand acres of landz and they needed two-hundred and fifty acres for the vault area. Today, it's my understanding that that vault area has been increased from two-hundred and fifty acres to possibly five-hundred and fifty, to seven hundred and fifty acres, with a total acquisition of eighteen hundred acres, not one thousand acres. Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, does this mean that we are going to be taking out of compact radioactive waste? I think that's a possibility, and quite frankly, We have quite a number of -- of eonsulting contraces out there that are studying the transportation of tailings. NoW guees where those tailings are going to come from, folks? They're not goin: to come from my district. They're going to come from the Kerr McGee Site in Northern Illinois, and IIm -- I'm not so sure that I Want to be a part of any kind of land acquisition in doubling the size of that area. And so for a1l of those reasons - and I could go into nany more - I certainly would hope that you would join with me in -- in supporting this amendmentr which would reduce, by five million dollars, the land acquisition money. We certainly can la*er in the spring, if absolutely necessary. And this bill Will be in a conference committee. We can address it then. My I 81 I I 1 . :  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 preference would be to wait until afker Justice Simon's hearingsy and address this possibly in the Veto Session in November. Madam - President, I would request a roll call vote on this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Further discussion? Senator Karpiel.

Thank you, Madam Presîdent. I stand in opposition to this amendment for several reasons. First of all, We are going to have the Simon hearings, and there will be a decision forthcoming in the - I hope - near future on this site, and I donît think that We should take the money out of the budget now for the last remaining site that we have as a possibility for our compact in this Seate. It's something that we have to do, and I think taking the money out not only would be threatening to the entire process, but I think would send the wrong signal that We are no longer interested in meeting our obligation in finding a site for the low-level radioactive waste in this State. The comment that was made about Kerr McGee, which of course is in my dlstrict: I don't believe is valid. The site, even if we do provide for a low-level radioactive site in the State of Illinois, the site that is the kind of facility that is bein: -- that's anticipated being built will not accept low -- the thorium mill tailings. That's a different type of waste, and it Will not be accepted down in Martinsville. That's not what the money is for. The money in the budget for the -- for moving the mill tailinqs from the Kerr McGee siee in West Chicago is to move it out of State, or to help move it out of State if and when we get the Agreement State status that Wedre requesting from the NRC. I strongly urge you to vote against this amendment. I think it would be absolutely the wrong thing to do when we do have a mandate, and we do have a responsibilley to find a site for the low-level radioactive dump .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 82  STATE 0F TLLINOIS 86th CENERAL ASSEMBLY RECULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 Eurther discussion? Senator J. J. Joyce. SENKTOR J .J. JOYCE: Well, thank you, Madam President. I rise in support of khis amendment for several reasons. I think, first of all, the people in Martinsville have been put through a tremendous amount of consternation by the Department of Nuclear Safety. I believe it was very obvious that khe Department dekermined that the -- that Martinsville Was a safe site kell before the experts it hired - - provided them with technical confirmation. We 're still in khat Situation. Before this week is overp there's going to be a -- an amendment to change the way siting will occur. It will be taken out of the Department of Nuclear Safety's hands, as well should have been. We -- we created a conflict of interest when we made this legkslation the way it was. There's going to be a separate siting commission proposed, and in the meantime, no one says that this is the last site We're going to look into. Martinsville ls a site that is going to be looked at, certajnly. There could be other sites. This -- this committee who is going to select a site is goin: to look at other sites. Theyîre going to ask for reeords of khe Department of Nuclear Safety and -- and perhaps qo somewhere else. Now , I have seen two voucher: from the Comptroller's Offiee where the Department of Nuclear Safety, before the current Director now I want to specify that - before the current Director was -- was the Director of Nuelear Safety - Where they had taken options on land. Nowask, is that very fair? Here are these people being put through the trauma of sikin: a low-level nuclear waste faeility in their community. At least, the State of Illinois ought to have the courtesy to walt until the site is selected, before we go in and buy land in a community. That doesn't say, and it doesnft send a message to those folks that we're being very fair. We certainly are not bein: very fakr. And thks, 1 do not believe, halts the proeess in 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Leqislative Day May l5, 1990 any way, shape, or form . We have to site a facility. This ki1l not hurt our siting process. It won't slow ik down even, because we will be back here with a supplemental appropriationz probably lon: before this site is selecked. This committee of peopley probably three, that are going to be seleeting this site are going to have -- their term is going to be lonqer than the Governor's term, and so that -- that we have a lame duck Governor, and they wanted to get this site done before he got out of office. That won't be the case. These people will be appointed by the the Governor, with the advice and consent of the Senate. They can make that decision on down the road, even after this Governor is out of office. So we're not being constrained by any time limits; we 're not going to say that -- to the people in Martinsville, ''We have to hurry up and site this place, because ehe Governor is going to be out of office, and we don't know who's going to site the next one.'' Thak's not the case. When We pass this legislation, and I firmly believe we will. Everyone is in aqreement on how we should do this. So I think the people in Martinsville deserve the -- the fact that we leave them alone. At least in buyinq or going in there and takln: options on property until we have decided khat that eruly is the site, if indeed we do decide thaE is the site. So I would support this amendment. I think we owe it to the people in Martinsville.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Further discussion? Senator Schaffer.

I would agree with the prevlous speaker thaE we owe the people in Martinsville something; we oWe them consistency. Now the current law, Whâch we passed, and I voted for, set up a procedure which did, in fact, put the Department of Nuclear Safety àn a conflict of interest situation, in my opinion. I agree with that totally. But it was our ldea. It was our plan. We worked it out 84  STATE 0F ILLINQIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENAQE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislatlve Day May l5, 1990 together, both sides of the aisle. We did it. We have put the City Council of Martinsville in a posikion that no unit of local government probably ever wants to be -- be in. If we pass this amendment, wefre breaking our word ko them . We are breaking a commitment. We're casting doubt on the whole process, and if I were on the Clty Council of Martinsvilley I Would say, ''I've had enough I've had enough of this -- this hot-and -- hot-and-cold relationship with the State; don't need this kind of abuse.l' And not only that, whenever I heard any other community or county was looking at it, I1d send them a note, and tell them how they were treated - how one day they were for it, and the next day they were against We need consistency. If we blow this -- and so far the reports -- the engineerin: reports, which seem to have moved with the -- the speed of a glacier, have been very positive. And so far, there's local support there. We don't know when the final reports come out, whether it's going to be a go or a no-go. But by pulling the money out, welre saying in effect, HWe don't care whether the reports come in good; welre not going to put the money in.'' That's sending the wrong kind of message. If We fail here - let's not kid ourselves - it Will be three or four years before we get another site anywhere else, if we ever qet another sitey and the only way welll get another site is if we walk away from the concept of local approval and shove it down somebody's throak. So what you 're doing here, is setting the stage up for us passing a piece of legislation to shove a site down somebody's khroat who doesn't want it, and if wedre incapable of doing that, and the compact goes down the chute the Illinois Kentucky Compaet - the Feds Will move in and shove it down a1l of our khroats. donlt think any of us want to see that. We could end up with three sites in this State, on some crazy federal proqram. If I were in Senator Woodyard's seat, in his district, I would be putting this amendment on too. I suspect any one of us probably 85  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Leqislative Day May 15, 1990 would. We understand what kind of heat that the Senator from the district has to be taking in a situation like this, and I know he 's responding to his constituency. We came up With a procedure. It was our procedure. It Wasn't perfect; but so far it's working. We have some mechanisms to make work better, in the form of the Simon bearings. I don't think we need to walk awaye at this stage. think we need to put the money 1n, hold the hearings, if the reports come back positlvely and the hearings come back positively, and Justice Simon recommends this site as the procedure is outlined, we will have solved one of the major problems facin: this State. This is no time to Walk away.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Further discussion? Senator Jacobs.

Thank -- thank you, Madam Chairman, Ladies and Centlemen of the Senate. I find I find What We're doing here: I guess: tn opposition -- any opposition to this, a little ironie. Everybody's been standing here, and think every legislator: every Senator in this Floor has wanted to ask for more money, and because of budget restraints, we haven't done so. Here's a Senator who want? to give back five million dollars from his district: and I think We ought to listen to him.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLTNS) -- Senator Woodyard, to close.

Wellr thank you: Madam Presidenk. At leaqt I'm glad Welve some debate on this entire issue. Quite frankly, I've never understood Why -- why the State of Illinois happens to be ahead or out front on this entire issue. And I tend to aqree with Senator Joyce. I'm not sure that even removinq the dollars for the land aequisition will really slow down the process. 1, quite frankly, resent the fact that the Federal Congress saW fit to -- to impose 86  STATE OF ILLINQIS ' 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5# 1990 ! this matter of public policy of the compacts on usz and now the Federal Congress seems to be rather Eurninq eheir backs on -- on ' - - on all of us. But for a lot of the reasons mentioned certainly by the proponents and supporters of this amendment, I eertainly encourage your support for its favorable passaqe. And for those of you who oppose it, or -- or think that you would like to see one of these sites in your district, I would be glad to work with you, providing we're successfulz to see that we ean get this money in your district for a site -- for land acquisikion of a low-level radioactive site, and I don't think you 're going want that under any circumstances. For a1l those reasons, Madam President, I move for the adoption of Amendment No. 3.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Woodyard has requested a roll call. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting ls open. Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted Who wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that question, there are 25 Ayes, 18 Nays, none votin: Present. The amendment is adopted. Any further amendments?

No furkher amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SBNATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bill -- 2nd Reading, 1819. Senator Topinka. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill -- pardon me. Senate Bil1 1819. (secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank youy Madam President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the I 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Leqislative Day May l5z 1990 Senate. Committee Amendment No. l is the guidelines and across-the-board reduction amendment. I Would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. to Senate Bill 1819. Al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Any further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRSSIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Ploor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1820. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill, Mr. Secretary -- Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKER; Senate Bill 1820. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriaeions I offers Commiteee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senaeor Carrollw on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Madam President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Once again, Committee Amendment No. 1 is the guideline and across-the-board reduetions. A reduction of some twenty-three thousand five hundred of General Revenue Funds. I Would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 88  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 l to Senate Bill 1819 Isic>. A1l in favor, indicate by sayin: Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have The amendment is adopted . Any further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Ploor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1820. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill: Madam -- 1821. I'm sorry .

Senate Bill 1821. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1822. Senator Donahue. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bi1l 1822. (gecretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Commieeee on AppropriaEions I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

FRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you: Madam President. Ladies and Gentlemen of the 89  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5# 1990 Senate. Committee Amendment No. 1 is the guidellnes reductions. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill -- 1822. All in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Any further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bi11 1823. Senator Sehaffer. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1823. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carrolly on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Madam Presidentz Ladies and Gentlemen of the senate. This is a seventy-six khousand five hundred dollar General Revenue Fund savtnss by applyinq the guidelines and across-the-board reductions. I Would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l ko Senate Bill 1823. A11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. ehe Ayes have 1t. The amendment is adopted. Any 90  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1824. Senator Weaver. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bi11 1824. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll: on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Madam President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. As in the case of other departments, where there were no taxes that seemed to be movlng alonq to fund new initiatives, the -- Committee Amendment No. l would eliminate those initiatives. would also provide the quideline cuts and across-the-board reductions we had mentioned. And in addition, it would fund the Trooper Operations at forty percent out of Road Fund dollars, as had been the Shapiro amendment proposal back in the '70s. I Would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1824. A1l in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Any further committee amendments? 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Leqislative Day May l5: 1990

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1825. Senator Weaver. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1825. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readin: of the bill. No -- khe Committee on Appropriations offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRCSIDING OFFICER: (SENRTOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll: on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Madam Presidenk, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Though this is a new aqency, there were still some guidelines that we felt had to be applied and across-the-board reductions, including some expansion Within the assessment center. would move the adoption of Committee Amendment No. which Would make those reductions.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bi11 1825. All in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. And the amendment is adopted. Any fureher committee amendments?

No further committee amendnents.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Floor? 92  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15e 1990

No Floor amendments.

PRESTDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Readàng. On the Order of 2nd Readkngz Senate Bill 1826. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bil1 1826. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Commiktee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Committee Amendment No. 2. Senator Hall.

Thank you: Madam President and Ladies and Genklemen of the Senate. Amendment No. 1 for Senate Bill 1826 eliminates the new EDP initiatives and imposes guidelines across-the-board reduction in operation requests according to khe Senate appropriation. I move for the adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OFPIPER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Hall moves the adoption of Commkttee Amendment No . to Senate Bill 1826. A1l in favor: indicate by saylng Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it, and the amendment is adopted. Any further committee amendments?

No further commlttee amendments. PRESIDING OFPICERZ (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Kelly offers Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Kelly, on Amendment No. 2.

93  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSZMBLY REGULAR SESSTON SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Leglslatlve Day May l5, 1990 Mr. President, I'd like to withdraw that amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Kelly wiEhdraws the amendment. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Netsch .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Netsch, on Amendment No. 2.

Thank you, Madam President. The amendment does not add one dime to the appropriation. What it does is to provide in that Section which deals with residential and nonresidential grants, includin: services for homeless individuals the purpose is relatively simple. The Department acknowledges, as do al1 of us, that a significant portion of the homeless population are also substance abusers, and conversely that a number of substance abusers are among the homeless population, and that any of their programs should extend to that population as well. There really is no dispute abouk that. As a matter of principle, think this underscores and really highlights the fact that there is this dual function really, if you will, with respect to a number of those who Would otherwise be clients of the Department. would move khe adoption of Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Netsch moves the adoption of Amendmene No . 2. Any discussion? Senator Maitland.

Thank you very much, Madam President. The Senator is quiee correct. Really doesn't make any changes at all. The language is, quite frankly, superfluous. 0ur concern from thlg Side of the aisle: I think, is the faet that the issue is here before us now . We add khe language, and the next thing we know, next year we have 94  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15# 1990 a separate line item. We just think thatf: quite -- quite appropriate<sic>, and therefore we rise in opposition to the amendment.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Netsch. SENATOR NETSCH) Senator Maitland, I promise you I will noe try to make this a separate line item next year, because I Won 't be here next year to do it. think really does help to highlight a very important thinq, and I -- I would urge the adopeion of the amendment.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Netseh moves -- moves the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 1826. All in favorz indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes -- opinion of the Chair, the Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Any further Floor amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1827. Senator Maitland. Read the bill.

Senate Bill 1827. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLTNS) Senator Hall, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Madam Chairman and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No. eliminates the new initiativesz it reduces expansions, imposes guidelines across-khe-board reduction. I ask for the adoption of Amendaent No. 1. 95  STATE QF ILLINOIS 86th GENZRAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Hall moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. to Senate Bill 1827. All in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Any further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Ploor amendments. PRESIDING OEPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1827 <sic>. Senator Pawell. Read the bill, Madam Seeretary.

Senate Bi1l 1828. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Hall, on Committee Amendment No. 1. SENATOR HALLI Thank you, Madam President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No. l is the guidelines and across-khe-board reductions. I move for the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 1828.

PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Hall moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1828. A11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have And the amendmenk is adopted. Any further committee amendments?

96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION BENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from khe Floor?

No Ploor amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading: Senate Bill 1829. Senator Fawell. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWEERJ Senate Bill 1829. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Hall, on Committee Amendment No. 2 -- I mean, No. 1.

Thank you, Madam President. move for the adoption of Amendment No. It's the guidelines and aeross-the-boards reductions for Senate Bill 1829. I move for the adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Hall moves the adoption of Committee Anendment No. l to Senate Bil1 1829. A11 in favor: indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Any further committee amendments?

No further committee amendmenks.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legkslatkve Day May 15r 1990 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1830. Senator Fawell. Read the billt Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1830. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Hall, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Madam President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No. l is the guidelines and across-the-board reductions. I move for the adoption of Amendment No . l to Senate Bill 1830.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Hall moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1830. A11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have ite and the amendment is adopted. Any further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLING) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bi11 1831. Senator Fawell. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1831. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bkll. The Committee on Appropriatkons 11 98  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Hally on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Madam President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No. l eliminates the neW program and it reduces some programs -- some programs in Senate Bill 1831. I move for the adoption of the amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Hall moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No . to Senate Bâll 1831. All in favore indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it, and the amendment is adopked. Any further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senators Q'Daniel and Fawell offer Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLTNS) Senator O 'Daniel.

Thank -- thank you, Madam President and Members of the Senate. The effect of the amendment -- the Floor Amendnent No. l<sicb to Senate Bill 1831 is merely a fund transfer. What it really does - the amendment would reduce the equipment line in khe Rehabilitation Services Bureau by four hundred and fifty thousand dollars in the Federal Vocational Rehabilitation Pund, and this four hundred and fifey *housand dollars would be split equally between Dupage and Jefferson County, and I move khe adoption of Floor Amendment No. l<sic>.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 99  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5r 1990 Senator O'Daniel has moved the adoptioù of Floor Amendment No. l<sic>. Any discussion? A11 in favorz indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it, and the amendment is adopted. Any further Floor amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1832. Senator Donahue. Read the billz Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1832. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readin: of the bill. The Commitkee on Appropriations 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING QFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Hall, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Madam President. Amendment No. l phases the homes and eliminates new programs, and I would move for ehe adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Btl1 1832.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Hall moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. to Senate Bill 1832. All in favore indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it, and the amendment is adopeed. Any further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Ploor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 3rd Reading. On the Order of 3rdqsic> Reading, Senate Bill 1833. Senator Weaver. Read the billz Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1833. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readin: of the bill. The Committee on Appropriakions I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll, Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Madam President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. deletes the State agencies' category from increase. I Would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1833. All in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposedz Nay. The Ayes have it# and the amendment is adopted. Any further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 3rd Reading. On *he Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1850. Senator Senator On the Order of 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1862. Senator Topinka. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HA%KER: Senate Bill 1862. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No Committee amendments. 10l  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 8ith GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Topinka offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Topinka.

Yes, Madam President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, this amendment would become the bill and basically creates a Health Care Authority. It provides for its qovernance, and also would provide for a funding mechanisn.

Al1 right. Senator Topinka's moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate 3ill 1862. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?

No further amendments.

Amendments from the Floor? No. 3rd Reading. 1864. Senator Ralph Dunn. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 1864. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDENT ROCXJ Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Ralph Dunn offers Amendment No.

Senator Dunn, on Amendment No. 1.

102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15: 1990 Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. l was agreed to in committee and by the insurance companies, and it really makes the bill so that it provides that insurance companies or producers of insurance would make notice that they have insurance available. I'd move its adoption.

A11 right. Senator Dunn's moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 1864. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Purther amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 1867. Senator Mahar. Read the bill, Madam Seeretary, please.

Senate Bill 1867. (Secretary reads title of bi1l) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Mahar offers Amendment No. 1.

Senator Mahary on Amendment No.

Thank you: Mr. President and Members. Senate Floor Amendment No. l tightens the bill up, as suggesEed by khe Committee on Local Government, and I would move its adoption.

Senator Mahar moves the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 1867. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 1877. Senator Joyce. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 1877. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDENT ROCKI Any amendments from the Floor?

No Eloor amendments.

3rd Reading. 1897. Senator Ralph Dunn. 1922. Senator Carroll. Read the bill, please.

Senate Bi11 1922. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No commiteee amendments.

Any amendments from the Ploor?

No Floor amendments.

3rd Reading. 1923. Senator Carroll. Read the bill, please. SECRETARY HAWXER; Senate :ill 1923. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 Commiktee Amendment No. 1.

Al1 right. Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Why, thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. l is the 3.2 percent reduction in Ehe across-the-board reduction in the Comprehensive Hea1th Insurance Plan. would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. A11 in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have Committee Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Any further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments. PRESiDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any Floor amendments?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) 3rd Reading. 1926. Senator Carroll. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1926. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OFFICERJ (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you; Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. replaces a lost check for four 105  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 hundred and forty-six dollars, and attempted to replace Garrett Deakin as well. I Would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. Kll those kn favor: Bay Rye. Opposed, Nay. The hyes haze ita Committee -- Amendment No. l is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any Floor amendments?

Senator Carroll offers Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. As we've always done With the Court of Claims awards bills, as the awards are signed by the requisite nunber of judgesz we add those so that the people receiving awards could be paid. This would add those that have been signed. It's three hundred twenty-four thousand General Revenue, plus about four hundred and ninety thousand from other funds for newer awards that have been signed by the requisite number of judges. I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator carroll moves Ehe adoption of Floor Amendment No. 2. Any discussion? If not, a1l in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have Floor Amendment No. 2 is adopted. Any further Floor amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) l06  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRKNSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1929. Senator Hall. Read the bill, Madam Secretary .

Senake Bill 1929. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of *he bill. No committee amendmenEs.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any Floor amendments?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1930. Senator Hall. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bkll 1930. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any Floor amendments?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1932. Senator Carroll. Senator Carroll. 1932. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

genaEe Bill 1932. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any Floor amendments?

No Floor amendments. l07  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 i I PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR D'ARCO) i I 3rd Reading. Top of Page 10. Senate Bill 1933. Senator Carroll. Read the billg Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Bill 1933. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any Floor amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: No Floor amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DIARCO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bi11 1951. Senator Jones. Senator Jones on the Floor? Senate -- Senate Bill 1957. Senator Dunn. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKER : Senake Bill 1957. (Secretary reads tîtle of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any Floor amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Senator Thomas Dunn offers Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Jones. Senator Dunn. I'm sorry. EENATOR T. DUNN: Thank you, Mr. President. This amendment would require Ehat a CILA reimburse a taxin: district, as defined in the Revenue Act, for any real estate or real property tax revenue lost as a result of an exemption granted to that entity. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any discussion? If not, Senator Dunn moves the adoption of l08 N .. . ..  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislakive Day May l5, 1990 Floor Amendment No. Those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Floor Amendment No. l is adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Thomas Dunn.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Dunn.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. l has -- or - strike that -- Amendnent No. 2 has four components. The first is that in residences, four individuals would be the limit, unless local zoning allowed more individuals to live in a CILA, and the distance would be, in counties of under a half million, thirteen hundred and twenty feet. In those counties over a half a million, the limit would be up to eight in areas Where fifty percent of the housing is multi-unit. The fourth aspect of it is that the CILAS Would be required to comply With local zoning regulations on the Federal Fair Housing Act Amendments of 1988. And lastly, it's the intent of this legislation that CILAS be distributed equitably in cities, villages and/or counties.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All right.

This amendment is supported by the Department, by the way.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A1l right. Senator Dunn's moved the adoption of Floor Amendment No. 2. Any discussion? If note those in favory say Aye. Those opposed, say Nay. The Ayes have Amendment No. 2 is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) l09  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Leqislative Day May l5, 1990 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1977. Senator Barkhausen. Senator Barkhausen on the Floor? Senate Bill 1985. Senator Holmberg. Senator Holmberg on the Floor? Senator Holmberg. No. Senate Bill 1986. Senator Brookins. Senate Bill -- SenaEe Bill 2000. Senator Welch. Senate Bill 2001. How about 20122 Do you Want any of these? No, I'm just -- how about 2013? 2015? Sold! How about 20502 Senator Rock. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 2050. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Public Health: Welfare and Corrections offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Committee Amendment No. 1. Senator Rock.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. 1, you will recallr is that which Was recommended by khe Illinois Hospital Association. It sets up the supplemental payment percentage for level-one and level-two trauma centers - that percentage that they are to be paid, in addition to what they ordinarily get. This bill is, as you know, an attempt to provide for extra compensation for emergency and krauma care. There is no objection that I'm aware of to Ehe commiEkee amendment, and I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Rock has moved the adopEion of Committee Amendment No. 1. Any discussion? If not, those in favor, vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. Hold Sorry. Sorry. Senator Eeats.

Is -- is this a -- question of the sponsor.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) He indicates he will yield. 1l0  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5e 1990

Is this an add-on thatls agreed to or somethinq: and no one's told us it's an agreed-to add-on?

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Rock.

No, the entire bill - as you w1ll recall from the discussion in committee the entire bill is estimated to cost -- somewhere between forty-five and ninety million dollars. Amendment No. has nothing whatever to do with that. It Was really kind of a technical amendment. Amendment No. 2, which I will shortly offer at the Department's request, cuts down the amount otherwise available. But again, think Committee Amendment No. should be adopted.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any further discussion? If not, those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. In the opinion of the Chair, the Ayes have it. Amendment -- Committee Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any Floor amendments?

Senator Rock offers Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Rock.

Thank you, Mr. President. Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, and Senator Keats in particular, and Senator Topinka, I spent a good deal of Eime late last week With Director Kustra and some of her staff, and this is an amendment that is sugqested by the 11l  STAQE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 Department of Public Aid. It's an attempt on our part to -- to reduce, 1 guess, the liability or exposure of the Department in terms of supplemental payments to bokh emergency and trauma care patients, or on behalf of emergency and trauma care pakients. And what the Department has requested is that an energency medical condition, khe definition be the same as is contained in the Federal Social Security Act. Tbe idea bein: that wedre not goin: to pay extra for people who use an emergency room situation to receive an aspirin or something. It has to be a true medical emergency in order to receive this extra compensation. I think the amendment makes a 1ot of sense. Further, in addition to What the Department requested, I havey by virtue of Amendment No. 2, delayed the effective date of the entire bill, to July 1 of next year, so that there will not be any fiscal impact this fiscal year, recognizing that we simple don't have the forty-five million dollar price tag on this bill. With one exception - I have made the Section that's applicable to the obstetrical care - particularly in rural Illinois - I have made that effective January 1. The Department estimates that the total cost if it was a full year, it Would cost four million. This would reduce it to a half a year, and the cost would be roughly two million dollars. The Department, While they didn't say that the Bureau of the Budget would agree with it, I think we can al1 agree that tWo million dollars is not out of reach, and it -- to establish this principle in 1aw on behalf of obstetrical care - When we heard testimony that in forty counties ln downstate Illtnois, there is no OB care I think it's something We we have to address, and I recoqnize the fiseal situation, so I've delayed the effective date of that provision till January 1. I would move the adoption of Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCQ) Any discussion? Senator Watson. 1l2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86*h GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 SENATOR WATSON : I I Thank you, Mr. President. Question of the sponsor. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) i i Ee indicates he will yield.

I'd like an explanatione Senator: of what youdre actually d I oing for obstetric care in the rural hospitals. 'Cause it is a I problemz and I'd just appreciate knowing a little bit more about I it I . I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) I Senator Rock. I .

Welly 1:11 -- 1'11 have to take it out of the record and get 1 . back to you. j ! PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) I All riqht. Take it out of the record. Senate Bill -- he took I it out of *he record. senate Bill 2052. Senator Daley. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bil1 2052. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCOI AnyPlooramendments? 1

No rloor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) 3rdReading. SenatorJones,didyouWant leave to return to 1 -- no, you don't. Senate Bill 2075. Senator Mahar. Por What purpose do you rise, Senator Daley? SCNATOR DALEY) Amendment -- on Senate Bill 2052. No Floor amendment filed? 1 ll3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENEQAL ASSEMRLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TKANSCRIPT 89th Leqislative Day May l5# 1990

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATQR D'ARCO) No: there's no amendment. We'11 9et to it. Senator Mahar. senate Bill 2075. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 2075. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readinq of the bill. Qhe Comnittee on Public Health, Welfare and Corrections offers Committee Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OFPICER; (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Mahar. SENATOR MhNAD: Thank you, Mr. President and Members. Committee Amendment No. l moves proviskons concerning the Self-sufficiency Trust Fund and the Fund for the Developmentally Disabled lnto *he povers and duties Section of ehe Code. And I would move 1es adopelon.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any diseussion? If not, those in favor, say Aye. Opposede say Nay. The Ayes -- in the opinion of the Chair: the Ayes have Amendment no. l is adopted. Any further amendmenks?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING QFPICER: (SCNATOR D'ARCO) 3rd Reading. Any Ploor amendmenes?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) 3rd Readinq. Senate Bill 2076. Senator Mahar. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 2076. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Public Health: Welfare 114  STATE QF ILLINOIS 86th GENEDhL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATC TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislatkve Day May l5: 1990 and Corrections offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Mahar.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members. This amendment permits disclosure of records and communications in order to protect an individual who has been threatened by a patient where a therapist-patienk relationship exists. If thereds no queskions, I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Mahar moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. Any discussion? Those in favor -- if not, those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Any further committee amendments?

No further comniteee amendments.

PRESIDING QFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any Ploor amendments?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DIARCO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 2082. Senator Woodyard. Senate Bill 2086. Senator Topinka. Read the bill: Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 2086. (secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No conmittee àmendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any Floor amendments?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) ll5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May ;5e :990 3rd Reading. Senate Bkll 2û87. Senator Mahar. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 2087. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any Floor amendments?

Senator Mahar offers Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Mahar.

Thank you, Mr. Preskdent. Floor Kmendment No . 1 becomes the bill, and it includes in the original bill that portion that deals with requiring institutions of hiqher education to develop a reeycling program which would be -- they Would be Working with the Department of Energy and Environment and Central Management Services. The neW portion of this bill requires that other State agencies under the auspice of the Governor, as well as constitutional officers and the Illinois General Assembly, also become involved in -- in developing recycling programs. And if there are no questionsr I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A11 right. Any discussion? If not, a11 those in favor, say Aye. All ehose opposed, Nay. In the opinion of the Chair, the Ayes have it. Floor Amendment No. l is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR D'ARCO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 2088. Senator Watson. Read the 1l6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislatize Day May 15, 1990 bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 2088. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee -- pardon me. The Committee on Transportation offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Watson, on Committee Amendment No.

Yes. Thank you: Mr. President. Committee Amendment No. l allows two of khe three members of the Employee Board to come from the same division within khe Commission. Current 1aw requires that each member comes from a division -- different division. This'll just allow them to be from the same division. Move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A11 right. Senator -- Senator Watson moves for the adoption of Committee Amendment No. Is there any discussion? If not, all those in favor. say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Any Floor amendments?

No further committee anendments and no Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENAQOR D'ARCO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 2097. Senator Macdonald. Senator Macdonald. Xes?

Thank you, Mr. President... PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR DIARCO) Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 2097. (Secretary reads title of bill) 1l7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GCNENAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5z 1990 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Energy and Environment offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Macdonald.

Thank you, Mr. President. Senate -- Floor Amendment No . merely exempts residential property from undersEoraqe <sic> eanks that are addressed in this bill. I move for its passage. END OP TAPE TAPE 3

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Macdonald moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. Any discussion? If not, a1l those in favor, say Aye. All opposed, Nay. The Ayes -- in the opinion of the Chair, the Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. is adopted. Any further committee amendments?

Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Macdonaldw Committee Amendment No. 2.

I WiGh to Table Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A1l riqht. Senator Macdonald moves to Table Committee Amendment No. Al1 those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. And in the opinion of the Chair, the Ayes have it. Conmittee Amendment No. 2 is Tabled. Any further committee amendments?

l18  STATE OE ILLINQIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 No further committee Amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any Floor amendments?

Senator Macdonald offers Amendment No. 3.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Macdonald, on Floor Amendment No. 3.

Yes. This is the amendment that the other two were technical that were -- and this one is the one that eliminates residential property from under -- underground storage tanks.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Al1 riqht. Senator Macdonald moves to adopt Floor Amendment No. 3. Any discussion? If noty those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. In the opinion of the Chair, the Ayes have Eloor Amendmenk No. 3 is adopted. Any further Eloor amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 2101. Senator Maitland. Senate Bill 2115. Senator -- Senator Macdonald. 2116. Senator Schaffer. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 2116. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of *he bill. No eommlttee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any Eloor amendments?

Senator Netsch offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Schaffer, Floor Amendment -- Netsch, I am sorry. l19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5r 1990 Senator Netschz Floor Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Mr. President. Floor Amendment No. l is not a ''merely'' amendment. It would remove the tax amnesty portion of the bill from 2116. have thought about this tax amnesty question a lot since the Governor first proposed it, and I know it's tempting to attempt to develop some extra money, even if it is a one-kime money for mental health. I would saye first of all, that we suspect that the seventy-million-dollar eseimate is overstated, and that it would not be that much. I -- but the main point really is one of policy, and think there are two very important poliey reasons why this should not be done. One has to do with the tax policy as such. There were Many of us who had some reservations about the wisdom of tax amnesty initially: although we certainly became supporters of trying lt out oncey and I might say that included the then Director of Mental Health -- I am sorry, *he then Director of Revenue. It Worked once, in a sense, because we were able to increase the penalties, and we were able to get a lot of money that was in dispute primarily because of the unitary tax change. I don't think anyone would suggest that doinq an amnesty program again, only about six years after the firsk one *as done, is a good idea. What it suggests to many taxpayers is that we can sit back and not worry abouk paying some of our disputed tax obligations, at least, because we can expect that there will be another amnesty pro4ram coming along every five or six or seven years. That is not conducive to good enforcement. I am not aware of another state in thls country that has done an amnesty program this close to the first one, and it seems to me that we are Shooting ourselves in the foot if we do this. I think a second policy reason why this is not a good idea is that it is another one of our one-shot efforts to find money, to plug the fact that we do not have adequate resources. Sure' it's going 120  STAQE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY RECULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5# 1990 into the Mental Hea1th Funde which is somewhat separate from the general appropriation of the Department, but don't think that whatever it gets spent foE in that fund is not going to come back to the Legislature next in terms of we Want the money to be able to continue it, and probably with considerable juskification. So that we, again, are...are engaqing....

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Excuse me. Senator Netsch, excuse me. Could we have a liktle order, please? Thank you.

We are engaging once nore in smoke and mirrozs budgeting. We are hiding the true depth of our fiscal problems of the Seate of Illinois, and it seems to me that this is a very serious way in which to go about doing that. So for two reasons, we shouldn't be doing this as a matter of tax policy, and we shouldn't be doing it as a matter of fiscal poliey. I would hope that we would eliminate the amnesty program, and that is What the amendment proposes to do.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Netseh has moved the adoption of Floor Amendment No. 1. Is there any discussion? Senator Schaffer. Senator Schaffer.

Mr. President, Members of the Senate, this is, as the sponsor has indicated, a very serious amendment. It would take the amnesty part out of this bill, and basically turn into a relatively innocuous codifieation of a uniform fine system for our Department of Revenue. We a11 know that We are in a very tough budget year. We a1l know that there is virtually no support in this Chamber or the other Chamber for any as senator Carroll likes to call them Revenue enhaneers. This is# as Senator Netsch has correctly indicatedr a one-shot attempt to put seventy million dollars into the State Treasury. Past experience has l2l  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day Nay l5, 1990 taught us to take some of ehese estimates with a grain of salt, although I thought the Director of the Department of Revenue did a pretty admirable job committee of defending the seventy-million-dollar figuree and at least some of my doubts Were, at least in parte eliminated. The bottom line is that it is a very tight revenue year. would like to suggest to the Members of this Body that We keep the bill intact, send it to the House, and keep at least this option open. I don't know What will happen in the House. don't know what the Speaker's disposition to this idea will necessarily be, but I do know that all of us, in the final days of this legislative Session: will either have this bill or Will have the opportunity to cut seventy million dollars out of Mental Health or Education or the pension systems or some other area of interest. I Would like to see us at least advance the concept, keep the discussion alive, and maybe itdll be part of the mix at the end of the Session.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All right. Senator Netsch has moved the adoption of Floor Amendment No. Those in favory vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted Who Wished? Take the record. On that question, there are 8 Ayes, 33 Nays, none voting Presente and Floor Amendment No. fails. Any further Floor amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DIARCO) 3rd Readinq. 2168. Senator Jones. 2171. Tom Dunn. Senator Dunn. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bi11 2171. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readkng of the bill. No committee amendments. l22  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Dunn. Any Floor amendments?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) 3rd Reading. 2174. Senator Jones. Senator Jones. Nop 74. We passed 68. 2176. Senator J.E. Joyce. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 2176. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readlng of the bill. The Committee on Transporkation offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Joyce.

Thank you, Mr. Presidenk and Members of the Senate. I would ask leave of the Body that I be removed as the sponsor of Senate Bill 2176, and ehat Senator Howard Brookins be replaced as the sponsor on Senate Bill 2176. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SEXATOR D'ARCO) All right. Senator Joyce requests leave of the Body to be withdrawn as sponsor of Senate Bill 7176 <sic>. Hearing no objection: leave is granted. It is also -- he also requested that Senator Brookins be replaced in his stead. Leave is granted, hearin: no objection.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senate Bill 2176. Any committee amendments?

No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Floor amendments? l23  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5# 1990

Pardon me, I am sorry. There Was a Committee amendment. The Committee on Transportation had Committee Amendmene No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Brookins, on Committee Amendment No.

Thank you. Mr. President. Committee Amendment No. l depleees <sicb everything and inserts instead the same language as was in Senate Bill 1880 -- 1987. It reguires fees for special license plates Eo be adequate to cover the cost of law enföreement officials, and shall notify special plate insurance issued. In other words, we are setting up some rules and regulations concerning the licensing of speeial license plates, and of the license plates.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? If not, Senator Brookins moves for the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l ko Senate Bill 2176. Those in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have ity and the amendment's adopted. Any further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Floor amendments?

Senator Brookins offers Floor Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Sena*or Brookins, Amendment No. 2.

Thank you. To help With this bill, we were in contact with the Secretary of State, and he also gave us some directions, and we depleting <sic> the revision <sicl requiring special event plates to have non-repeating numbers. This brings it in l24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86*h GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 compliancep and with this ue have removed all opposition from the Secretary of State's Office.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? If not, Senator 3rookins moves for the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 2176. Those in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it, and Committee -- or the Amendment No. 2 is adopted. Purther Floor amendments?

No further Ploor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd Reading. On the top of Page l2. Top of Page on khe Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 2-l-9-û. Senator Marovitz. Out of Senate Bill 2-2-0-8. Senator Jones. Senator Jones. 2-2-0-8. On the Order of 2nd Reading is 2-2-1-3. Senake Bill 2-2-1-3. Senator D 'Arco. Out of the record. Senate Bill 2228. Senator Severns. Senator Severns. Read the bill, please' Madam Secretary .

Senate Bill 2228. (Secretary reads tttle of bill) 2nd Reading of the Bi11. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Floor amendments?

Senator Severns offers Amendment No. PRESIDING OFFICERZ (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Severns, Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. This amendment simply reskricts the deduction to businesses With less than seven and a half million dollars in gross sales for the taxable year. move its adoption. l25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Leqislative Day May 15, 1990

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Discussion? If noe: Senator Severns moves for the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 2228. Those in favor, signàfy by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have i*e and the amendment's adopted. Further Ploor amendments?

No further Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 3rd reading. On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 2231. Senator Welch. Read the bill please, Madam Seeretary.

Senate Bill 2231. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readinq of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING QFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Floor amendments?

No Floor amendments. Senator Welch offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Welch.

Thank you, Mr. President. Senate Ploor Amendment No. deletes everythin: in the original bill. What the amendment will do is take care of a situation which was brought to court by a defendant in a lawsuit in Lasalle County concernin: burning tires. What happened in that ease was that Ehe defendan: Wa: sued by the State, he attempted to bring in third party defendants, beinp those individuals who contributed the ttres and the other debris Ehat he dumped down the ravine next to his property. The Court said khe State law does't allow you to do that. ïou have to brin: a separate lawsuit against these defendants. What this amendment will do is to allow those defendants in suit brought under the l26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 Environmental Protection Ac* to bring in third party defendants into the case, and bring an action -- a counteraction agains: them. It further prohibits a person from reeovering any fines or civil penalties imposed upon him from the third party defendants. The court ruled that there had be a change in State law for us to attempt Eo clean up the Statute. The Statute was unclear, and the court ruled that since it didnft allow third party defendants ko be brought all in one lawsuit, as is the case in a11 other lawsuits, we needed to clarify the law. So I am offering this amendment, and I would move for adoption of the amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Hawkinson. SENATOR HAWRINSON) Thank you, Mr. President. Will the sponsor yield for a question?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Sponsor kndicates he Wil1 yield.

Senator, what prevents third party practice nowv since we have under our Civil Practice Act: as you know, a third party section that allows tbird parties brought in in many situations. What is it under current 1aw that prevents a third party from being brouqht in?

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Weleh.

The court ruled in the appellate -- the circuit eourt y believe, ruled that the Statute did not specifically allow the third party defendants to be brought in in the Statute that grants the cause of action; therefore, this took precedence over the Civil Practice Act, and the third parties could not be brought in . It was a proceeding -- basically, administrative proceedin: 127  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legkslatkve Day May l5, 1990 brought by the Environmental Protection Agency that Was later brought to the circuit court.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Hawkinson.

Does this ereate a neW cause of action or -- or as understood your original explanation, a cause of action already existed, but the -- the holdin: was they have to brin: a separate proceeding. So this does not create any new cause of action: only allows them to be combined in one proceeding?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Welch.

That's correct. It's an attempt to economize on judicial time, basically.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Eurther dkscussion? Senator Hawkinson.

The last sentence of the amendment that's now the bill provides that a person may not seek to recover any fines or civil penalties imposed on him under this Act from a third party defendant in an action. Would you explain that?

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Welch.

In the Statute now, we have some treble damage provlsions, and the idea is that an individual, as in this case, who owned a ravine, contracted with a local school to take the debris when they knocked down the school; put his yard. Contracted With a local dealer who took used tires; put those in his yard . Could not then recover on a treble-damage basis against the suppliers or the ori:inal generators of the waste put on his property. So in 128  STATE OF ILLTNOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5p 1990 effect, any damage the State might obtain against him, Which might be treble damages, hè could then not seek contribution at the same basis against the third party defendant.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Hawkinson.

What could he recover from the third party defendant?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Welch.

My understanding is he could recover actual cost to clean up. In the particular case we are talkin: about the fire burned for over nine months. The individual did not have the money to put out as he Was ordered to do by the circuit court. He simply threw up his hands and saidz 'lI can't afford thiso'' Then he tried to bring in the third party defendants. He was told by the court he couldn't do that, and the whole time the fire kept burninq.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Further discussion? If notz Senator Welch moves for the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 2231. Those in favor will signify by voting Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further Ploor amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR LDFT) 3rd Reading. On *he Order of 2nd Reading is fenaEe Bill 2237. Senator Savickas. Senator Savickas. On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 2239. Senator Savickas. Senator Savickas. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate B111 2249. Senator Savickas. Senate Bill 2253, on the Order of 2nd Reading. Senator Welch. Read -- out of the record. Senate Bill 2255. Senator Netsch. Out of the record. Senate Bill 2256. Senator Severns. 129  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMSLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15y 1990 Read the bill, please, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 22...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) 56.

Senate Bill 2256. (Secretary reads tiele of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LDFT) Floor amendments?

Senator Severns offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDINC OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Severns, on Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. This amendment simply establishes the Illinois Export Loan Guarantee Program to provide the authority with more export financing optionsy specifically geared toward the small- and medium-size businesses. I'd move its adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Dtscussion? Discussion? If not, Senator Severns moves for the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 2256. Those in favor will signify by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it, and the amendment's adopted. Further Floor amendments?

No further Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LUPT) 3rd Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 2267. Senator Marovitz. Read the bill, please, Madam Secretary. 130  STATE OP ILLINQIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5y 1990

Senate Bill 2267. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. Qhe Committee on Judiciary offers Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senakor Marovitze on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Okay . Thank you very much: Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Btll 2267 took out some languaqe about condoning violence agalnst a certain groupp and it was not intended to be in the bill. It was inadvertently put in the bill. And I Would ask for the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Discussion? If not, Senator Marovitz moves for the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 2267. Those in favor, signify by saying Aye. opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it, and the amendment's adopted. Purther committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Floor amendments?

senator Marovitz offers Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUPT) Senator Marovitz.

Amendment No. 2 is your ultimate technical amendment. It adds a comma, and I Would ask for adoption of Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OPPTCER: (SENATOR LUFT) l31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMZLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 Discussion? Discussion? If not, Senator Marovitz moves for the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 2267. Those in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it, and the amendment's adopted. Further Floor amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Keats.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Senator Keats.

Although the amendment really deals With only about removing four words' it is fairly controversialz and so I figure everyone should listen. This is a hate crimes bill. Abouk ninety percent of the bill really is an excellent piece of leqislation of which I would like to think most of us would support. What is included in the bill at the moment Would be for the first time addinq the term ''sexual orientation'' to State 1aW without any specific definition of what sexual orientation is. I'm not qoing to argue -- how you feel on the particular issue. The bill is not a gay rights issue. This is not an anti-gay rights amendment or anything like that, but what it says, for the first time, is sexual orientatlon will be added to the Statutes and then those crimes against a specific group khat is not a readily defined group will be reported, prosecuted, et cetera. I donît want to :et too heavily into that, 'cause that's beyond of the purview of the amendment. What the amendment does is take sexual orientation out of the bill. It still says under hate crkmes, race, crged, eolor, religious origin al1 of that is still àn. The only thing we ire removtn: is the term l'sexual orientationy'' because this laW would: for the first time -- or this bill would, for the first time: put that phrase in the Statute, and I'm not just not sure that that's a step We really want to do. I would appreciate your support for the amendment. l32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT :9th Legislatkxe Day May 15y '1990

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Discussion? Senator Berman.

Thank you, Mr. President. I rise in opposition to this amendment. There are many times that we pass bills with Words in them that are not exactly defined. Senator Keats, if you recall, in the think it was in the Judiciary Committee - we had a bill that flew out of committee that prohibited lewd exhibition. asked the sponsor what ''lewd exhibition''meant; he couldn 't define it, and in fact. the courts haven't been able to define i*. But we pass laws to prohibit lewd exbibktion. This amendment, in effect, would allow gay-bashing. Nowy we have seen it. We know what it is. We know who perpetrates ity and it belongs in this bill, just like any of the other obnoxious acts that this bill wishes to probibit and keep record of. I think that in defense of those people *ho ehoose a certain lifestyle and are beat up# attacked, harassed because of that lifestyle, which is not illegaly we ought not to adopt this amendment. And I Would urge a No vote.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LUFT) Further discussion? Senator D'Arco.

Thank you. Mr. President, I find it hard to understand what Senator Keats' objection is a11 about. In the first instance: he seems to be saying that we don't want to initiate a precedent in the law by including *he word ''sexual orientation.l' I think what he -- what he's saying is -- is that khe words themselves aren'h offensive, but because welve never used them in Ehe 1aw before, let's not set a precedent. Well, that argunent is totally absurd. It's not Ehe words that are importank; it's What they mean that 's important. And what they mean is that we will not allow persons to be ineimidaeed because of race, creed, color, religion or l33  STAQE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT $9th Legislative Day May l5y 1990 sexual orientation. Thatls so simple a concept. Senator Seats. Tbere's nothing offensive in that concept. We, as a Legislature, have a right to make a statement to the public that we are offended by people who intîmidate others for sexual orientation reasons. This is a offensive amendment to us# and we should defeat it.

Further dlscussion? Senator Dudycz .

Thank you, Mr. President. just have a question of tbe amendment's sponsor.

Sponsor indicates he will yieldr Senator Dudycz.

Senator Eeats: I've -- I've heard one of the previous speakers mention somethin: about gay-bashing and aboue homosexuality, and I'm just wondering. The way I look at the -- at your amendment, kt says nothing -- has notbing t6 do wîth homosexuality or gay-bashing. It says: 'lsexual orientationa '' Now could you please explain to the Body, what -- how do you define sexual orientation? PRCSIDEN; ROCK: Senator Keats.

There is no definition or explanation of sexual orientation in the bill in any way. PRESIDENT ROCEZ Senator Dudycz. All right. I'm sorry. Senator Dudyca. Okay. Senator Marovitz.

Thank you, Mr. President. Queltion for the sponsor of the amendment.

134  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15# 1990 Sponsor indicates he will yield, Senator Marovitz.

Senator Keats, inasmuch as your opposition, or your intent with the amendment, is to define what sexual orientation is, have on file an amendment - which I Would be willing to offer, you will withdraw yours defining sexual orientation as hekerosexuality, homosexualityw or bisexuality. Ilve shown that to you before, and that definition Would suit you as a specific definition, if you'll withdraw your amendment, I Will offer my amendment as an alternative.

Senator Keats.

I'd be willing to look at ik again out of khe record, but frankly, I am not convinced that that's what my objection is. appreciate hearing what my objections to the bill are, but so far, I haven'k heard anyone explain what mine are.

All right. Any further discussion? Senator Keats, do you wish ko close I'm sorry: Senator Marovitz.

I -- I was referring to your objection, Which you stated in -- in -- in opening your remarks to your amendment. Let me say this: last year, this Body passed this bill With the Words ''sexual orientation'' in àt, unanimously. And Senator Reats, you Were a supporter of that bill. As a well-informed, educated legislator: you voted on behalf of that bill. Does that mean that in 1989 it was okay to protect a parttcular group against discriminakion, but ln 1990 we no longer want to protect that group? I'm not sure if that's what you want, but that's want you're doing by this amendment, and I would urge opposition to this amendment and passage of this legislation ultimately. 135  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislaeive Day May l5, 1990

A11 right. Further discussion? If not, Senator Keats may close.

I appreciate that. In reference to the bill last year -- Was not identical, did not have ehe civil provisionse and at the time, the -- some of the provisions involved Were not carefully mentioned, if you remember. In fact, we could get the transcript, and it would be interesting to read the transcript - the explanation of that bill. It Was a a very short explanation: and I'd be glad to discuss that bill that is not identieal to this one, did not deal With the civil provisions. It was interestinq to hear some of the opposition to my amendment explaining what our Ehought pattern was, because that is not our ehouqht pattern. Anyone who says they are in favor of gay-bashing is not our kind of person. And I don't think there 's any reason whatsoever why we should say we are in favor of it. But the simple fact is there are criainal penalties today. If those actions would take place, there are criminal penalties in existence today to deal with that exact specific problem. It's not like somehoW We are removing these penalEies. Remembery this entire amendment deletes a grand total of four words. Sexual orientation is deleted twice. So please do not expand the amendment beyond what in reality is. Those are existin: criminal penalties. We have never had tbe term ''sexual orientation'' in our Statutes. There are certainly reasons to argue about how it should be defined or should not be defined: but more importantly, the question is, is that a category khae we wish to start to initiating into our standards as a separate cateqory that eventually will be listed on all the civil rights lists of what are specifically protected groups. I donet think that's a road we want to go down; I Would appreciate your support for the amendment. l36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Leqislative Day May l5y 1990 PRESIDENT ROCKZ All righta Question is the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 2267. Those in favor of the amendment will vote Aye. Opposed Will vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Rave all voked who wish? Have a1l voted Who Wish? Have a1l voted who Wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 29 Ayes, 21 Nays, none voting Present. Amendment No. 3 is adopted . Purther amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Marovitz.

Senator Marovitz, on Amendment No. 4.

Mr. President, I'd like to take this - bill out of the record. Can I do that? PRESIDENT ROCK) Sure.

Okay.

Take it out of the record. 2274. Piscal note has been requested, Senator Rea. 2291. Senator Brookins. Bottom of Page l2. Okay. 2304. Senator Marovitz. All right. Ladies and Gentlemen: we'll move now to the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading. This will be final action. Start in the middle of Page 15 on the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Readlng, with 1497. 1-4-9-7. Senator Lechowicz. 1501. Senator Netsch. 1510 is on *he Recall List. 1512. Senator Severns. Yes. Read the billr Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 1512. (Secretary reads title of bill) l37  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5: 1990 2nd Reading of the bill. Pardon me -- 3rd Reading of the bill.

Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Senate 3i1l 1512, sponsored by Senators Kelly, Brookins, Keats and myself, îs is the bill that removes the driver's license for students who drop out of school. Last year: this bill and similar bills were introduced, and there Were many concerns raised. This bill attempts to address those concerns, and we've done so by extending the definition to students who are not subjected to this bill that alternative education includes all of the alternative programs permitted by the State Board of Education, as written into the 1aw today. It also closes the loophole that allows students to produce a parental note describing a transfer of schools. It addresses the coneern where last year we had the exemptions go throuqh the Motor Vehicle Code. This year We have said that it should be addressed at the local level, specifically through the superintendent and the local school boards. Finally, to give this bill only a trkal test, welve added sunset language which uould require that this legislation, if passed and signed into law, to expire in five years. We believe that this gives it an ample opportunity ko see if it effectively works, and if it does not, I am certain the sponsors and I wil1 be the first Eo say it should not be reapproved. What this bill attempts to do is -- is provide one more tool to address *he growin: dropout rate. We don't prekend that it is the answer. We don't pretend Ehat it is a panacea. It is simply a tool to try to reverse the trend of dropout rates in this State, where now our dropout rate is growing fasker Ehan our effective ability to deal With it. It is a bill that is now supported by the State Board of Education: the Illinois Principals Associationg the Illinois Associaeion of l38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 School Boards, and the Illinois Education Association. 1.11 be happy to answer any questions. I would appreciate a favorable vote.

Is there any discussion? Any discussion? If not, the question is, shall Senate Bill 1512 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have al1 voted Who Wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 43 voting Aye, 10 votin: Nay, none voting Present. Senate Bill 1512, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senator Brookins, for what purpose do you arise? Okay. 1548. Senator Earpiel. 1593. senator Smith. 1612. Senator Daley. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 1612. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

Senator Daley.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Senate Bill 1612 would amend the child resistant seat. What the bill basically does it gives responsibility when transporting a child that :he parent of that child must give a chlld's seaE to that individual when -- in transporting them . If an individual is stopped, the individual driving that child is not responsible now., We also in committee amended the bill because of some objections from DCFS that -- we deleted the Word 'lmedical emergencyz'' and put in -- in cases of any emergency: a child would not have to be in a child resistant system. The problem was DCPS l39  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Leqislative Day May l5, 1990 said many times they qet a call in the middle of the night and they do not have these seats, and for that reason we put that amendment in. IId be happy to answer any questions.

Diseussion? Senator Watson.

Xes. Thank you, Mr. President. Question of the sponsor.

He indicates he will yield. Senator Watson.

yes. Thank you. Senator, What happens in a situation which get a phone call, and my neighbor asks me to pick up their son along wikh my son at school, and they happen to be under the age or preschool or whatever it might be, and they happen to be under the age of six, and I don't have a proper seat? What happens in that case?

Senator Daley.

I believe, Senator, the amendment sponsored by Senator Hawkinson Would -- address Would that, and it Would be -- give the parent the responsibility to give you that seat, so you Would not be liable.

Senator Watson.

So then if I am stopped: then the parent would be liable for that -- please address that if that is not the case.

Senator Daley.

would like to -- have Senator Hawkinson -- this was his l40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 amendment.

Al1 right. The Gentleman yields to Senator Hawkinson. Senator Hawkinson.

Thank you, Mr. President. Noy I had the same exact concerns that you 're addressing here, and the only way thak a grandparent or a neighbor or an aunt and an uncle is responsible is if khe parent or quardian has provided a seat and you are not using There is no liability placed on the parent or guardian, other than if they are in their own vehicle and they don't have a seat, but their fallure to do does not make them liable under this Statute nor yours. The officer's goin: to deal with the situation in the car at hand. If you don't have a seat, and you are not the parent or guardian, you're not -- you're not responsible.

All riqht. Purther discussion? Purther discussion? Senator Daley, you wish to close?

Just a favorable vote.

All right. The question is, shall Senate Bill 1612 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. And the voting is open. A11 voted who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Have all voted who Wish? All voted who wish? Take the record. 0n that question, there 48 Ayes, 5 Nays, none voting Present. Senate Bill 1612, having received the required constitutional majoritye is declared passed. 1614. A1l right. Top of Page 16, Ladies and Gentlemen. 1657. Senator Dunn. Senator Dunn. Top of Page l6z 1657. You Wish that ealled? A1l right. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.

14l  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Leglslative Day May l5, 1990 Senate Bill 1657. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Readtnq of the bill.

Senator Dunn.

Thank you, Mr. President. Senate Bill 1657 authorizes the public buildin: commission to designate areas lyin: within their county as qualified for munieipal projects. I move its adoption.

Discussion? Any discussion? If not, the queskion is, shall Senate Bill 1657 pass. Those in favor w1ll voke Aye. Opposed will vote Nay. And the votinq is open. Have all voted Who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted Who Wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 31 Ayes, 18 Nays, 4 votin: Present. Senate Bill 1657, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. 1741 and 1766 are on the Recall. Senator Geo-Karis, for what purpose do you arise?

Mr. President, that was Senate 8ill 1657. I meant to vote No: and I -- inadvertently I voted Yes. I Would like to be stated as votinq No on that.

Well, the record -- the transcript will so reflect. 1869. Senator DeAngelis. Xes. No. Maybe. Yes. Read the bill: Madam secretary, please.

Senate Bill 1869. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Readin: of the bill.

l42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86*h GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 Senator DeAngelis. SENATQR DeANGELIS: Thank you, Mr. President. Senate Bill 1869 creates in the County of Cook a Contracts Reviek Committee. This committee is composed of five members, three appointed by the Chicago commissioners of that board and tWo appointed by suburban commissioners. The duty of this board is to review and make recommendations to khe full board on those contracts of over twenty-five thousand dollars which currently are subject to a no-bid type situation. Be happy to answer any questions.

Discussion? Any discussion? If not, the question is, shall Senate Bill 1869 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted Who Wish? Al1 voted Who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 48 Ayes, 3 Naysy 2 votinq Present. Senate Bill 1869, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. 1870. Senator DeAngelis. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 1870. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you, Mr. Prestdent. senate Bill 1870, as amended, creates the hazardous waste storage fee. For those of you Who may not know, the Clean Illinois Punds Will be running out with this appropriation year, and there are no monies available or in the budget for next year. This bill sets up a system by Which a storage fee is charged eo create a twenty-four-million-dollar fund l43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMRLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIFT 89th Legislative Day May l5s 1990 to -- to be provided for various items, and 1111 describe those in just a minute, after I describe the bill. The bill creates a fee of three-eighths of one cent -- three-eighths of one cent per pound on hazardous chemicals stored at a site. The fee is assessed on a quarterly basis, based on the maximum amount of inventory at that particular time. Qhere is a minimum fee for those companies that don't store a lot, of a hundred and twenty-five dollars a quarter, and a maximum fee of twelve thousand five hundred dollars a quarter to those companies Who store quite a bit. There'll be twenty-four million dollars colleeted under this Pund, the proceeds of which are to be used in the following manner: fifteen million dollars will be allocaeed to the EPA for the cleanup of about eighty-nine sites, twenty-one of which si* in Cook County; five hundred thousand dollars will be qiven to the EPA for emergency response to ehings like spills and so forth; three million will be allocated to the EPA for a revolving loan fund for those businesses who know of pollution prevention devices khae are available, but cannot afford to pay for them; 1.87 million dollars will go to the EPA and ENR for various pollukion prevention activities; tWo million will be given to the Departmenk of Conservation for tree planting and habitat restoration; and a million and a half dollars will be available for the Department of Agriculture to oversee collection and disposal of unwanted pesticides. 1'11 be happy to answer any questions.

Discussion? Senator Raica.

Thank you, Mr. President. And a question of the sponsore please.

Mr. Sponsor. Indicates he w1ll yield, Senator Raica. 144  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990

Thank you, Mr. President. Senator DeAngelis, would hospital incinerators fall in this category?

Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: No# per se# only if there is a storage of hazardou: and toxic items -- nok waste, but chemieals on -- on the site.

Senator Raica.

Senator DeAngelis, you said that they would be -- the Eine or Whakever -- the fee would be put on them quarterly. So if someone Was storing say a couple of million pounds of this of -- on their premises, they would have to pay for the amount that they were storing at the time the inventory was taken, or at the time this quarterly inventory was being taken? In other words: if for some point at a time they have an astronomical amount, but at the time the inventory was taken: which are they going to be -- pay this fee for?

Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Senator Raicay going back to your first guestion. This is preproduction storaqe. It's not in khe waste cycle, cause there's a fee for disposing of those wastes later on downstream if you're trying to get rid of them. To answer your second question, those companies that use a lot Would probably not do any inventory at all, because khe max has been eapped at tWelve thousand Cive hundred dollars a quarter. So they would be ak the max regardless of what their inventory level would be.

145  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 I I A1l right. Further discussion? Further discussion? Senator I Macdonald. ' SENATOR MACDONALD: Thank you, Mr. President. I have a point of personal privilege: please. PRESIDENT ROCK: Sure. State your point. SENATOR MACDONALD: ' I would like to introduce to the Members of the Senate, the fifth grade class from Olive School in Arlington Heights and their parents and teachers. They're sitttng in the visitor's gallery to my lefk. PRESIDENT ROCK: Will our guests please rise and be recognized. Welcome to Springfield. All right. Discussion on Senate Bill 1870? Senator Hall. SENATOR HALL: Will the sponsor yield for a question? PRESIDENT ROCK: Sponsor indicates he will yieldz Senator Hall. SENATOR HALL: Who Will be the keepers of these funds that's collected? PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: The EPA. Well. it will come into *he General Revenue Pund and then be put into the -- the allocation for these purposes. PRESIDENT ROCK: Further discussion? Senator O'Daniel. SENATOR O'DANIEL: Thank you, Mr. President. I rise in support of this bill. I think you know this is a better approach than -- than many other 1 146  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GZNERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 pkeces of legislation I've been -- I've been seeing passed around. think this could be very beneficial to agriculture, as there 's a lot of pesticides and herbicides and stuff out there, and I think this is a way to locate those and possibly dispose of them.

Further discussion? Senator Woodyard.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Well, -- I rise to make the same point that Senator O'Daniel did. Andz Senator DeAngelis, I apologize; I didn't hear al1 of your opening remarks. But parkicularly to those of us involved in agriculturey do want you to know that -- that a11 of the pesticidesy herbicides: fuels, propane. qasoline, diesel, are exempt from these particular fees. And although I have asked for a list of those actually payin: this fee in my district, don't have that at this time, but certainly there is a great need in jgriculture. Part of this -- part of the monies generated by ehis particular fee would be used by the Department of Aqriculture for collection and disposal of -- of on -- of -- of farmers being able to bring in some of the old herbicides and pesticides. And so# thus, I also support the bill.

Further discussion? Senator Keats.

Question. Question.

Question of the sponsor? Sponsor indicates he will yield.

Two questions. One you raised a moment ago when Senator Hall asked who's the custodian of this money. You said it goes to General Revenue Fund. Should *e next year decide to do it for something different, can we or is this a designated fund that's l47  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 controlled? Or can we just play games With it like some other funds?

Senator Dehngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: In my -- thank you, Senator Keats; in my closing comments, I was going to correct it. There is a trust fund for this purpose.

Senator Keats.

Second question that was raised by some of our -- our Members from agricultural areas. I notice businesses Who use chemical substances will be taxed; farmers who use chemical substances won't be. Now, many of us are well aware We have a serious problem with groundWater and fertilizer problems from excessive fereilizing -- excessive use of ehemicals, pesticides, herbicides, et cetera, in agricultural areas. So what Wedre saying is a major source of water or groundwater pollution - a major problem - we're going to look the other wayy because the farmers don't want to pay for a problem theydre causing. Could I get an answer out of that?

Senator Dehngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS; I didn't hear the question.

I didn't either. Further dis' cussion? Senator JaeobG. Al1 right. Senator Keats.

1'11 ask again, then. If a business uses a chemical, they are taxed. If a farmer uses the identieal chemical, he's not. That sounds real fair.

l48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5r 1990 Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: I quess you want a response, but it's still not a question, Senator Keats. But let me just tell you, if that farmer used the same chemical that a business would, I don 't khink he'd be business. Because if he wants to pull sulfuric acid pour sulfuric acid on his field, be my guest, but I don't think he's goinq to qrow anything. This bill is designed -- and I've gotten calls from my own district of farmers who for a lonq time have stored peseicides: wholve had no way of getting rid of them. And if you ever have to get a bid or find out how much it costs to get rid of themz you'll find out ik's astronomical. This is a disincentive to -- to store, and an incentive to get rid of the ones that you have right now.

Senator Keaes.

I appreciate it. I'm sorry if you can't understand the question of what wedre calling double jeopardy. One group's treated one way; another qroup, another. I know we've done that quite a bit for the farm sector. Senator -- Senator, I don't mean to interrupt you: but I am talking to you, and I apologize for interruptinq. Okay? If you're going to differentiate, what I'm asking is on the herbicides, pesticides, ehemicals, that we're dealing with anyway, why are we still excluding these farm chemicals? That's whak I'm asking. Why ls onê pêrson expected to pay for the environmental damage they do, and another group is noE expected to pay for the envlronmental damaqe khey do? All of us know one of our major groundwater problems is the runoff of herbicides, pesticides, et cetera, from farm fields.

Senator DeAngelis. 149  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 SENATOR DeANGELIS: I -- I have no answer to that. I mean, the farmer's using ite he gets itg he pours it on the crop, and that's it; it's gone. I -- I mean I -- these other people are usin: it on a continuous basis in the manufacturing process.

Further discussion? Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACOBSJ Thank you, Mr. President. Just call for the previous queskion.

All right. Any further discussion? If not, Senator DeAngelis may close. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Welle roll call.

Question is, shall Senate Bill 1870 pass. Those in favor Wi11 voke Aye. Opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? A11 voted Who Wish? A1l voted who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 49 Ayes, 3 Nays, voting Present. Senate Bill 1870, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. 1881, 1905 and 1916 are on the Reeall List. 1955. Senator Jones. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bil1 1955. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

Senator Jones.

Yeah. Thank you, Mr. president and Members of the Senate. l50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5z 1990 Senate Bil1 1955 raises the level of reimbursement for pastoral care and, other social service programs in nursing homes. The percentile for per diem allowable support costs for nursinq home reimbursement purposes is increased from seventy-five percent to the eighty percent percentile. Currently, right now: the Department of Public Aid does not consider social service programs for those persons who are in our nurslng homes. This would this would put the nursing care for social service programs as a reimbursable item for those persons. And I ask for a favorable vote.

Discussion? Senator Topinka.

Xes. Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, some questions for the sponsor, I may. PRESIDENT ROC:: Sponsor indicates he will yield. Senator Topinka.

Now, khis 26.8 million dollars which youlr'e projectin: here in this reimbursement program, is thak over and above khe forty-eight million dollars in a rate increase which the nursing homes :ot last year for long-term care facilities? This is over and above?

Senator Jones.

The figure Ehat you used ls one that probably came from the Department, whieh consider totally incorreck. What we are talking about is approximately 5.5 million dollars or closer to more or less six million dollars. So I don'k know where the Department came up With that twenty-six million dollar figure the one that you are using - buk wbat this does is increase the amount that is reimbursable for those programs in the formula for 151  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5e 1990 per diem.

Senator Topinka.

But this -- regardless of Whether it's five nillion or 26.8 million - and I still hold onto my 26.8 million figure, and I can break it down for you if you fd like - this is over and above the forty-eight million dollars we agreed to and gave to nursing homes last year. So ehey have just -- they've already gotten an increase jusk last year, and now we are eoming back again at a time when we are cutting the budget two percent across the boardw and all of that. Is that right?

Senator Jones.

Well, a11 that rhetoric sounds good kf youdre trying to defeat the bill, but that is not -- that is totally inaecurate as we discussed this bill in committee, as far as those ikems that are not reimbursable, and that item as relate to pastoral care and other social service programs are currently not reimbursable, but yet and skill khey are mandaked that nursing homes give these discount services. So what this -- what ehis -- bill does is -- is see that those social service programs are in khe reimbursable item, and they are mandated that a nursing home must do for our elderly citizens.

Senator Topinka.

Well, since -- since these items are -- are not in the budget, and I think both sides have agreed that we are going to be doing some major cuts this year in lieu of any type of kax increases, what items do you feel sbould be cut in exchange for this in the l52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION EENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 IDPA budget? Because somewhere you are qoing to have to total ouk.

Senator Jones.

Wellv I am not on the Appropriation Committee and I am not talkin: about doing any cutting. But one of the things the only thing I said is thisr is that this bill take care of mandated services that should have been included in the budget. It should have been included, because nursing homes are mandated to to provide these services for our elderly citizens. So therefore, if it's not included, it sbould have been included, and all I am doing ls following the mandates as required by lawg and that's what this bill does.

Senator Topinka.

Now, to the bill, I may. There is just nothing in the Public Aid budget that Would accommodate a hit of this nature. I think We'd have to go back to existent programs to be able to accommodate a kwenty-six million dollar hit at this particular time. I -- I think that's awfully heavy to do. just donlt see how we could be expected to do this, and I just -- not that we Wouldn't Want to help, but geey We gave forty-eiqht million dollars to the nursing homes last year. think we should really and truly let Ehem sEay put for a douple of years here. And I would encourage that, you know, our Members certainly view this in thak light.

Further discussion? Senator Maitland.

Thank you very much, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. l53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5z 1990 Senator Jones, I an on the Appropriations Committee' and it's pain to al1 of us the way in which We had to cut back these budgets. have said publicly for years noW that this State one day is goin: to have to address the very serious underfunding of -- of Medicaid reimbursement here in this State hospitals: nursing homes: long-term care, you name it - we are painfully underfunding a1l those areas. Bu* the fact of the matter is, *e are in a position right now where we are cutting dollars out of the budget something that none of us like to do - and Senator Jones, I would I would say to you, I fear I fear perhaps you are not explaining the entirety of the -- the bill in its entirety, because there are a number of other things there that increase Ehis cose dramatically. Absolutely do. The noney is not there to fund the program. We shouldn't send the wron: signal, and therefore, I would urge defeat of the bill.

Further discussion? Any further discussion? Senator Jones may close.

Well, as always, you know my eolleagues on the other side of alsle would jump and try to raise a red flag. Howeverr all this bill does is simply this: increase the percentile for reimbursement for to the nursing homes, to take care of the social service programs that are mandated that a nursing home to qive to our elderly citizens, and the Department of Public Aid, when they threw ou* a erroneous figure of twenty-six million dollars, and it's nowhere near that. Ik is no more than six million dollarsr which should have been in the budgee. 1* should have been in the budget for these services that our mandated that nursin: homes must give to our elderly citizens. And I ask for a favorable voEe. PRESIDENT ROCE; 154  STATE OF ILLINUIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 Question is, shall Senate Bill 1955 pass. Those tn favor will vote Aye. Opposed Will vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 28 Ayes, 21 Nays, and 6 voting Present. Senate Bill 1955, having Sponsor requests that further consideration of Senate Bill 1955 be poseponed. Without objection, so ordered. 1965. Senator Berman. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 1965. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Readin: of the bill.

Senator Berman.

Thank you, Mr. President....

Youdve got the Wrong -- I am sorry. Madam Secretary, the board: please. 1-9-6-5. Senator Berman.

Thank your Mr. Presidenty Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. The purpose of this bill is to address one inequity that exists in our retirement laws. For the past number of years, federal and State 1aw has virtually abolished a1l mandatory retiremenk ages. The one glaring exception Eo that fairness rule is in the area of our judges, both appointed and elected, and this bill goes alon: with all of the otber age nondiscriminakion attempts, and abolishes the compulsory retirement a9e for judges. Be qlad to respond to your questions, and I solieit your Aye vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Is there discussion? Senator Fawell. 155  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990

Would the sponsor yield for a question?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Sponsor indicates he will yield. Senator Pawell.

Could you tell me why We originally put on this mandatory retiremenk age? I mean, who did it originally? Do you know?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Berman.

My guess is that it happened a long time before I Was here. I don't know, but I think that it probably was in keeping with a lot of mandatory retiremenk ages that were passed before our age of enlightenment.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? If not, Senakor Berman, you wish to close?

Roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DCMUZIO) Question is, shall Senate Bill 1965 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who Wish? Have all voted Who Wish? Have al1 voted Who Wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 34, the Nays are l6# none voting Present. senate Bill 1965. having recelved *he required constitutional najority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 1944 <sic>e Madam Secretary. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading, 1994.

Senate Bill 1994. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. l56  STATE 0F ILLINOTS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rock.

Thank you, Mr. President. Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, Senate Bill 1994 is an amendment to the Election Code, and would establish the date for the primary election only in the year 1994, that date to be the Tuesday folloking the second Monday in September, rather than as now, the third Tuesday in March. This would shorten the intervening time between the primary and the general election by twenty-five weeks -- from thirty-three down to eiqht weeks. I would like to call this bill ''Give the People a Break, Please'' bill. In order to -- in addition to shortening the election cycle, it's an attempt on my part to help reduce the cost ok eiectlon caapaigns. We have just come through, again, a lengthy and costly primary. We are now seein: candidates abound all over the plaee between now and November, and it simply turns people off, as well it should. This would only apply to the election held in 1994. is not a Presidential yearp and so we don't have to vorry about national nominating convention delegates, and ik would give us an aktempt, or would afford usw for instance, a pilot program to see if it's going to work. We've changed our primary date four kimes since 1910, and since 1969, *e have had this March prinary date, and the fact of the matter ise that elections are qetting more and more costly each year. So by establishing the Tuesday followinq the second Monday in September, we avoid any problem with the Labor Day weekend, we avoid any problem wikh the Jewish holy days, and I think it's an idea whose time has come. There are eiqhteen states currently - sixteen states, I beq pardon - that have a primary in September, so don't thànk the problems that can be brought up have been brought up by some of the county clerks. The fact is the majority of them that I spoke with are in favor of this, although their association 157  STATE OF IELINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBL7 REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5# 1990 has not taken a formal -- a formal viewpoint, but the fact is sixteen other states, includin: some of the largest ones, have a September primary. It does work: and I think it would be beneficial not only to -- to the candidates, but most certainly and most importantly, to the electorate. And would urge an Aye vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Discussion? Senator Dudycz.

Thank you, Mr. President. stand in support of this bill. As Senator Rock statedz it -- there was no recorded opposition in committee, and it does affect only one election. It's a qood pilot programp Although many of us vould like to have seen maybe a May or a June primary or possibly other datesr as President Rock stated in committee, nobody is going to be completely satisfied, but it is a good startz and let's see how this one works, and let's see if we can support it and have the House also.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Netsch.

Thank you, Mr. President. I also rise in strong support of the bill. My only reluctance at all is that I would like us to make a permanent commitment to a September primary, but Senator Rock is right that it's a -- a major step in the right direction, simply to get us started on that road. I Was going to remind Members of the Senate, that the Senate has on a number of occasions four that can recall in the last four years - voted for a September primary. So we have had a strong commitment on park of the Senate to this. Admittedly, when it geks over to the House it tends to kind of evaporate into thin airz but I think we ought to give the House one more chance to redeem itself by supporking what we have been saying for some time is the right way &58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 to go. If I might add one footnote, having been around the State a lot, I cannot tell you how many people in this State want us to ehange the primary. They do not like the long canpaign periods that they are subjected to now.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Schaffer.

Mr. President, Members of the Senate. I have always felt that the primary should be moved into May, but I have never been able to convinee nyself that the public was better served by a September primary. I look at the recount situation we have going in one leqislative district right now from the March primary, which is still, am told, two or three monkhs away from settlement, and konder how the devil we, you know: :et that to Work. It's my understanding that other than shortening the eanvass period: this bill does not address the myriad of laws affecting recounts and a11 the other problems related to changing the primary date. That Would create, I think, chaos for us in 1994. The other problem I have, quite frankly, is that while this does move the primary daee to right after Labor Day, when people are coming home from their vacations and school has started again: What it means is the whole campaign season is durin: the summer khen everybody's gone. And the participation in the primary elections is kind of sad right now. When we do it ak a time of year when people are least at home, you know -- I guess this is a ticket for incumbency forever, because since no one, you knoW, is home to find out what the challenqer is al1 about, suppose *he incumbents can continue to survive by even wider margins, but I don't think the public is better served by a campaign seasonz ''We had an electiony by the Way, only you weren't home when we had it .''

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) l59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY RECULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15e 1990 Eurther discussion? Senator Karpiel.

Thank you, Mr. President. A question of the sponsor.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Sponsor indicates he will yield. Senator Karpiel.

What would the date be that We Would have to file the petitions would have to be filed?

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rock.

It's essentially the same time for filing as we currently have, so it would be roughly late June that we Would be filing nominating petitions for a September primary. Yes.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Karpiel.

All right. I have one more question. If in fact We do change the primary to September, would it be at all possible, somehow - and I don't know how this goes together - but to change our Session dates to start earlier in the year, so that we then can be out earlier in the year?

Well, that's the question that Senator Philip and I and number of Members on my side have discussed at great lengths over the yearsy an6 kf you recall, as a matter of fact, Senators DeAngelis and Sangmeister - then Senator Sangmeister - sent ouk of here a resolution setting up a different time frame. Yeah, there is no question about àt. The problem With the primary is that with the March primary, *e are kind of stuck with this Leqislative season that we have, and as much as we might wish for May or Junez it's just a wish. You are never goinq to see the General Assembly of 160  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR,SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 Illinois move the primary into the heat of the Legislative battle. It's just simply not goin: to happen. So We are either going to be earlier or we're goinq to be later, and 1, franklyy opt for later, and yes, then, it seems to me we could prevail upon the Governor to deliver his budget address earlier, ko make his budget recommendations earlier. And yes, conceivably we could finish by Memorial Day or certainly by the middle of June, or at some point. So the long answer to your short question is yes. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? If not, Senator Rock may close. SENATOR ROCK: Thank you, Mr. President. I would just -- to respond to senator Schaffer, the bill does accommodate all those other datesr and does shorten the time frame including, I miqht say, the question of election contests, and having been in one myselfz I am very sensitive to that, and a11 thls really does is shorten the time span, and the fact of the matter is instead of taking two months because we have that kind of timez that case and any other election contest could well have been decided already. As you know, it's going to Wind up probably in the House of Representatives, in any event, but I think it's about time that we had to address -- now, constitutionally, how do we shorten the election cycle and how do we hold down the eost? It does not appear to me that we are ever going to afford public financing of election campaigns in this State. It does not appear to me that We are golng to be able Eo pu* any -- any constitutional lid or lîmit on spending, and so we are almost self-destructing. Every year the elections get more and more and more expensive. This is an attempt to bring it back to reality - to say we don't need a thirty-five- or forty-Week electkon perkod. For goodness sake, we elect a Mayor from Chicago in this amount of time, and khe Mayoral candidate was able to raise multimillions of dollars, and 161 I  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 the media was able to deliver the messages from the various candidates, and you can't certainly say that nobody was home to listen. think We -- we have beaten the electorate to the point where they are almost numb with elections, and if we can shorten the cycle, We ought to do it. And I urge an Aye vote.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMOZIO) Question is# shall Senate Bill 1994 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 52e the Nays are 3, l votin: Present. Senate Bill 1994, having received the required constitutional majoritye is declared passed. 1996. Senator O'Daniel. Senator Vadalabene, for what purpose do you arise?

Yes, Mr. President, I was in the telephone on 1965 when it passed. Had I been at my seat, I Would have voted Aye. I would like the reeord to reflect that request, and I thank you very much .

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMSZIO) All right. The record will so reflect. Senate Bill 1996, Madam Secretary . 6ECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Bill 1996. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator O 'Daniel.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Senate Bill 1996 amends the Build Illinois Bond Act, and what it really does is increases the Build Illinois Bond Authorization by six million 162  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislatkve Day May l5, 1990 dollarsy and permits refinaneing or retirement of bonds issued by home rule municipalities for wastewater treatment faeilities when the service for the bonds is provided by food and drug sales tax imposed by municipalities. applies only to bonds issued betkeen 1-1-87 and 1-1-90, and the -- thls really affects only the city of Mt. Vernon. Some years back, they Nere in trouble with their wastewater plant. There Was no funds available. They Were put on a restricted status, and they Were threatened with lawsuits by both EPA and the Attorney General. So they took it to the people and passed a bond -- passed a tax on food and drugs for three-quarters cent to retire these bonds. So then when we passed the sales tax reform bill, it pulled the rug out from under them, so they don't have any way now to retire those bonds, and I have spoken with EPA and they sakd, ''Well, they :hould have waited.'' But they waited until they got put on restricted status: and also got threatened with lawsuitsy and they couldn't attraet any industry. think they probabty would have had Magna, that's over at Nashville. Sinee they have went it alone and built their plant, they nok have General Tires expanding thetep to be one of the largest tire manufacturers in the world, a Walgreen midwest dkstribution eenter is locating there, but there is no way they can skand a hit like this. And it isn't something they done. Ik's the fact that they went it alone. The State came along with a sales tax reform and pulled the rug out from under them . And attempt to answer any questions. I have a pamphlet here that's full of documentation between *he city and the Attorney General and EPA and all.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All riqht. Further discussion? Senator Davidson.

Mr. President. Members of the Senate, I rise in support of thks bkll, cause kn committee I raksed the question that a couple 163  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMRLX REGULAR SESSION SENKTE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 other local governments had been involved in this, and I have since found out the local officials of those two municipalities were in error, in that does apply only to the City of Mt. Vernon, and I intend ko vote Aye on this.

PRSSIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Further dkscussion? Senator Netsch .

Tbank you, Mr. President. I also rise in support of the bill, and would like to underscore something that think Senator O'Daniel indicaked. met wlth the Mayor of Mt. Vernon at his request. The problem that arose for Mk. Vernon Was one that was not self-imposed; it was one that We really puk on them: and was a combination of thinqs. When we finally got around to adopting the wastewater treatment program, we structured it in a way that Mt. Vernon, Which had done what it was supposed to have done all along, which was to pass a bond issue for its wastewater problem, was simply excluded from that program. In the meantime, they had issued bonds pledgin: revenues from a hone tule sales tax, which included food and medieine in its base. We subsequently removed food and medicine from that base, effective about a year from nowz and they were left simply holdinq the bag. It was -- they were doing everythàng right as a responsible local unit ought to have done, and because we did change the rules for them in midstream, they Were really lefk in an untenable position. I think this is absolutely justified help for Mt. Vernon.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? If not, Senator O 'Daniel may close.

I Woul; just ask for an affirmative vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Question is, shall Senate Btll 1996 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 164 I STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. On tha: question, the Ayes are 51, the Nays are 3, none voting Present. Senate Bill 1996, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. 2020. Senator Marovitz. 2058. Senator Maitland. Bottom of Paqe 16 is Senate Bill 2058, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKER : Senate Bill 2058. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Maitland. SENATOR MAITLAND: Well, thank you very much, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Senate Bill 2058 provides the language needed to fund the Merit Recognition Scholarship Program for the years '87 and '88. You may recall we have provided funding for this program in 1986 and just for a small portion of 1987, and have once aqain, re-funded it in 1989. These two years are years Wherein We promised those indiviiuals these grants, and tben Were not able to deliver. I think this is reasonable legislation, and ve ought to pass it. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Discussion? If not, the question is, shall Senate Bill 2058 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed: Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 53: the Nays are none, none voting Present. And Senate Bill 2058, having received the required constituEional majority, is declared passed. Top of Paqe 2066. Senator Smith. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill l65  STATE 0F TLLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legkslatkve Day May l5, 1990 2066, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 2066. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Smith.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senate Bill 2066 is based on the NCSL report from the Committee on Family Hea1th Policy. The report found alcohol is America 's number one drug problem among our youth. With nearly five mkllion adolescents identified as problem drinkers, alcohol is a factor in nearly half of all of our accidental deaths, ineluding forty-two percent of al1 deaths from motor vehicles. This bill is based on one from California : the Youthful Drunk Drivers Visitation Program, and a person convicted of D.U.I. who is under twenty-one years of aqe may be ordered to participate in the Youthful Intoxieated Drivers' Program. The program shall consist of a supervised visitation to three different rehabilitation facilities. One is a rehabilitation facility; a facility that cares for alcoholics; and the coroner's office or morgue: to observe appropriake victims of accidents involving persons under the influence. The program will be administered through the probation office. Requires offender or the offender, guardian or parent ko bear all costs associated with the program , unless -- indigency is found -- is found. And I ask for your support in this bill. is sorely needed.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Is there a discussion? If not, the question 1s, sball Senate Bill 2066 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have all l66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15y 1990 voted who wish? Have all voted who Wish? o..tmachine cutoffl... Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 52, the Nays are 1, none voting Present. Senate Bill 2066, having reeeived the required constitutlonal majority, is declared passed. END 0F TAPE TAPE 4

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senate Bil1 2095. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bk11 2095. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you, Mr. President. Senate Bill 2095 is a vehicle bill to have at the time, or sometime in the future, an agreemenk, if possible, on the Health Care Summit that's been going on for quite some time in Cook County. Althouqh the summit chairs have issued a report, there is not enough consensus on what should be done, so I would urge that we just keep moving the process, and leave the bill in its form right now and move it forward. And 2096, the next one, is the Public Aid component of it, so I urge voting and wait and see.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) You want to vote, wait and see? SENATOR DeANGELIS: 167  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT :9th Legislative Day May l5# 1990 No. Wait and see. PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All riqht. Purther discussion? All right. Senate -- the question is, shall Senate Bill -- 2-0-9-5 pass. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The votinq is open. We're waiting. We're waiting. Have al1 voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who Wksh? Take tbe record. On that question, the Ayes are 48, the Nays are 2, none voting -- 2 voting Present. Senate Bill 2095, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 2096, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bil1 2096. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you, Mr. President. It's the same thing: except to house the Public Aid component of the Hea1th Care Summit.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Is there discussion? If not, the question 1s, shall Senate Bill 2096 pass? Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposedy Nay. The voting is open. Have all voked who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 48# the Nays are 1, 3 voting Present. Senate Bill 2096, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bi1l 2105. Senator Hawkinson. On Ehe Order of Sena*e Bills 3rd Readinq is Senate Bill 2105, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 2105. 168  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hawkinson.

Thank you, Mr. President. We've seen this bill before in the Senate. It changes the granting of immunity in Illinois from transactional immunity and criminal prosecutions to use immunity, whîch is the Pederal system . The Senate passed it in 1983, when it was sponsored by Senator Sangmeister: 42 to 1l. We passed it again sponsored by Senator Sangmeister in '85 by a vote of 36 to 7. It was a component, although it was somewhat controversial of Ehe Statewide Grand Jury bill that we had earlier, and it Was controversial at tbat time, not necessarily because of the switch from transactional immunity to use immunity, but whether the inclusion of it in the bill overstepped the Governor's Amendatory Veto plans. A brief descriptàon of transactional immunity is that it -- it is an immunity given to a witness defendant which completely absolves that witness defendant of any further prosecution. Use immunity says that a prosecutor may give immunity to a Witness for the use of his testimony, and that the Stake or the government may not make any use whatsoever of that testimony againsk that witness defendant in any further prosecution. Furthermore, anything that is gained or evidence that is indirectly tied to that testimony may also not be used in the prosecution of that Witness defendane. What's commonly happened in practice at the Federal level to protect the integrity of the system is that before use immunity is given, a prosecutor wi11 take khe evidence that he or she already has against the defendant and seal it, so that the prosecutor may prove that *he evidence was not gained by the use of that testimony. It was amended in -- in committee with an amendment by Senator Berman I l69 I STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 which would indicate that the use immunity testimony could not be I used unless the Skate had used al1 reasonable means ko otherwise ' j get the testimony. I'd be happy to try and answer any questions, and I would urge the Senate to approve Senate Bill 2105. 1 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Is there discussion? If not, the question isg shall Senate Bill 2105 pass? Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voking is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted Who wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 49, the Nays are 2, none voting Presenk. Senate Bill 2105, havin: received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. 2106 is on the Recall List. 2114. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 2114, Madam Secretary. ACTING SECRETARV: (MR. HAKRV): Senate Bill 2114. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Readinq of the bill. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Davidson. SENATOR DAVIDSON: Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Senate Bill 2114 is a bill that came from the Illinois State Police administration bill, has the support of the Criminal Justice Information Authority, Chicago Mayor's Office, Cook County State's Attorney. What it allows for is for fingerprinting of school bus drivers. Now there's some rumor golng around here yesterday or today, which was incorrect, trying to say this was a yearly cost for this fingerprintinq cost, and that's totally incorrect. I've checked, and they only got one time unless the person would be a new school bus drkver. If the person has been fingerprinted, has the school ! I bus license, and he is then convicted later on, it Will shoW up on I 170 L-- -- - - - - - - - - - - -  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL KSSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 the fingerprint. The regional superintendent, who renews this license annually each yearz ls automatically notified, therefore can deny this privilege. So whoever was spreading that rumor about it was a thirty-dollar cost each year is in error. Would appreciate your support. There is some - people who -- who donlt think this is a good idea only because they think it might apply somewhere else down the line. This is an address -- came about due to the problem that happened in the Cook County area, and I Would appreciate a favorable vote.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Purther discussion? If notz the question is, shall Senate Bill 2114 pass? Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voked Who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 27e the Nays are 17. Sponsor requests postponed consideration. It is a very good decision. Postponed consideration. Senate Bill 2128. Senator DeAngelis. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bil1 2128, Madam Secretary. ACTING SECRETARYI (MR. NAPRY) Senate Bill 2128. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Thank you, Mr. Secretary. Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you, Mr. President. Senate Bill 2128 -- Doc. Senate Bill 2128 tries to correct a problem that's occurred with a community in my district. Two years ago we changed the Tax Inerement Pinancing Distribution Pormula. The community in my diskrict, Park Forest, tWo years prior to that had issued bonds based on the old formular and they were caught with a small 17l  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 shortfall, whicb over a period of years could amount to quite a bit of money . What I am krying to do here is krying to get the State to live up to the obliqation that it incurred at the onset, when the town of Park Forese went ahead and issued these bonds, based on what was then the distribution of khe TIP proceeds. To my knowledqe, Park Forest is the only community confirmed that is affected by this bill.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) I'm sorry, Senator DeAngelis, had you concluded? Oh. Okay. Discussion? Senator Netsch.

Thank you, Mr. President. To some extent, Senator DeAngelis' City of Park Forest was caught in a similar web as Mount Vernon, not quite the same in the sense that Mount Vernon was sort of double whammied by things that We changed, or did here in the General Assembly. Park Forest did make a pledge based on a previous formula of the TIF distribution money, and then we changed thae distribution in midstream. Their -- their situation is perhaps not quite as heart-rending, but it certainly is one where they were caught by changes that We made, and it was not their own fault. The one point that I would like to make - and so think they do have a somewhat less compelling but nevertheless a case to be made for some help. The one thin: that is different is that even now, Senator DeAngelis, we don'k quite know whether there are other cities in this condition. In the case of the Mount Vernon bill, which Senator O'Daniel had. it Was designed so that it could apply to no one except Mount Vernon. There may be others in this situation, and we've asked *he Departmenk of Revenue to try to find out. They simply have not been able to identify that for us yet, so we may be opening a little bit more of a Pandora's box here than we were ln the previous bill. Nevertheless, it seems to me that -- that again, a city has been 172  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5: 1990 caught by something khat we changed, not by their own doing, and that at the very leastz we oughk to let this bill move alongy and if we have to make some adjuskment in it latery we will do it at that time.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Purther discussion? If not, Senator DeAngelis may close. The question is, shall Senake Bill 2128 pass. Those in Eavor will vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted Who wish? Take the record. On that questiony the Ayes are 54# the Nays are none, none voting Present. Senate Bill 2128, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 2141, Mr. Secretary, please.

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAQRY) Senate Bill 2141. (Secretary reads title of bill) It's the 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Madigan.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Senate Bi11 2141, as amended, represents an attempt to create a funding source for cleaning up the rivers and streams in Illinois. The concept here is to take one-half of the State Revenue that is to be derived from Riverboat Gambling and appropriaee that share to projeets khat serve the purpose of cleaning up the rivers and waterways. Legislation that we recently passed on riverboats is hoped to attract visitors to our rivers. To me it makes sense that while We are attractin: those visitors to the rivers, that We make an effort to elean up the waterways in Illinois. Now there may be some concern addressed as to -- that we may be perceptually l73 U ' N ! STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENEQAL ASSEKBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 taking money away from education. Let me address that by saying that I have talked to several people in the education community an; shared this bill and concept With them. And no one has voiced any opposition to this concept. In fact, am not aware of any outside opposition at all to this concept. With khat in mind, I'd be qlad to answec any questions, and would ask for support and passage of this bill. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A1l right. Discussion? Senator Holmberg. SENATOR HOLMBERG: I rise in opposition to this bill, and I hope everybody here in the Senate Chambers is payinq attention. Because it was, again, a year ago that we passed a bill for Riverboat Gambling and one of the bargaining chips was that the money Would go into the Education Assistance Fund. Haven't we heard that before? Now this is the first aktempt to take that money away. I think: When *e pass a bill, when it's been agreed to, when the package has been agreed to, it should remain in that forn. The 1aw hasn't even gone into effect yet, and we're already taking the money away. think we should leave it as it is, and vote this bill down. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACOBS: Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senator Madigan has a bill here - oh, my goodness Ehak whenever first heard about I thought well it made some sense, because when we first introduce Riverboat Gambling, if you remember, the money that was collected from -- from Riverboat Ganbling was to go back to the river from Whence it came. So there is some merit for this type of -- of discussion. However, Senator Holmberg is absolutely correct, and itls one of the l74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5: 1990 I reasons that I would probably be reluctant in opposing Ehis bill. j She is absolutely correct. It Was part of the political I h compromise that Was necessary to 9et this bill through. I Would ! like to see this type of ackivity Ehouqh pursued, and at a later I , point - 'cause I get concerned,asSenatorTopinkaandIboth 1 espoused Whenever the last Riverboat Gambling bill went through. We were concerned with sending the wrong image With the educational money, and being caught in the same trap that we were in outs -- zometimes eaught kn wkth kbe lottery taking care of education. But I -- I -- I think khat we would be in violation of our compromise - of course, wedve been in violation of a lot of compromises on this bill. But I stillr at this point, Senator, would reluctantly say no, that we should not -- qo ahead With this bill, but I'd like to see us continue to talk about it.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. Further discussion? Senakor Jerome Joyce .

Thank you, Mr. President. I rise in support of this. Kids like beautiful riversg too.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Berman.

Qhank you. I reluctantly stand in opposition to this. I don't think I have to remind anybody in this Chamber a11 of the heat that we have been drawing every since we passed khe Lottery, in krylng Eo explain Eha: one of our rationale for passing the Lottery was to improve the fundinq of education. Webve done that. eive hundred, six hundred million dollars a year has been added to the fundkng resourees for educatkon. Sure, it's out of one pocket into another, but it certainly has been a response to the I constituents that if wevre going to have qambling, the only reason I they'll allow us to do it is if it improves education. I'm not i 1 175  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5e 1990 saying that beautification of the rivers isn't a nice goal, isn't a nice project. Sure it is. 3ut it's not - as far as most of khe people in Illinois are concerned it's not as important as education. urge a No vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Geo-Karis.

Will the sponsor yield for a question?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) The sponsor indicates he Will yield. Senator Geo-Karis.

When the Riverboat Gambling bill was passed, I Was under the impression that al1 of the money would go to the Education Assistance Fund. Am I wrong or am I right?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Senator -- Senator Maitland.

No. The name is Madigan.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMQZIO) Senator Maitland -- I'm sorry -- Senator Madigan. I'm sorry. SENATOR GEO-KARISI Senator Madigan is better looking.

Thank you, Mr. Presidenk. That's mostly trueg Senator, wiEh the exception of the administrative costs that would be related to this.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Geo-Karis.

Then by your bill, are you proposing to pay fifky percent into this beautifying the rivers?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) l76  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 69th Legislative Day May l5y 1990 Senator Madiqan.

That's correct.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Geo-Karis.

Well, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, and I -- I'm very fond of Senator Madigan, and I think he's better looking than Senator Maitland. Anyway, but I -- I feel -- feel...

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) no you Want a roll call on that?

... the purpose that I supporked the Riverboat Gambling bill was for education, and I think if we wank to clean up khe rivers, we should go to the Department of Natural Resources, and also Conservation: and I reluctantly have to oppose this bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. Further discussion? Senator Jacobs, for a second time.

Thank you, Mr. President. apologize for riskng a second time. I just want to make something clear, Senator. Wheny you're talking about al1 the money going to the beautification of the rivers: you're talking about the State 's share, is that correct?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Madigan.

Yeah. That is correct. That's one-half. NoW one half of this would remain with the education, and one-half Would go, and we're only talking about the State's share. 177 I I STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GDNERAL AGSEMBLI REGULAR SESSION SCNATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? The Chair Would like to apologize to Senator Maitland. -- didn't mean to drag you into this controversy . Senator Madigan, you may close. SENATOR MADIGAN : Thank you, Mr. President. only wank to say that with regards to the Lottery and the education, we al1 know the process that we go through in this. And from time to time, when we talk about priorities here, education and some others are always maximized to their - best of our abiliky. We have neglected for several years a problem that we have on our ràvers and sereams, because things like that tend to get lost by people wikh greaker demands supposedly Ehan pollution and siltation control and having somekhing left for our children and their children. So with that in mind, again, a1l we're asking is to devote a little attention and let me say again thak I have talked With the people the education community, and they are not opposed to thks concept. With that in mind, would ask for a favorable roll call. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) The questlon is, shall Senate Bill 2141 paEs. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposedz Nay. The voting iE open. Have al1 voted Who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are l6, khe Nays are 39, none voEing Present. Senate Bill 2141, having failed to receive the required constitutjonal majority, is declared lost. 2143 is on the Callback LisE -- Recall List. 2144. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 2144, Mr. Secretary, please. ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NAQRX) Senate Bill 2144. (Seeretary reads kitle of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. 178  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Philip.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen' of the Senate. Senate Bill 2144 amends the Circuik Court Aet. It would provide three new circuit judges for the 18th District, which would be Dupage County, the 19th District, which would be Lake and McHenry County. Justification ks uhen the new census probably comes out, there'll probably be eight hundred thousand population in Dupage County and over six hundred and fifty khousand population in Lake and McHenry. Just to bring you up to date on the estimate case per judqe: in 1988 we had eight thousand seven hundred and fkfty-five, and that Would be fourteen hundred and fifty-nine cases per judqe. 1990 estimate is eleven thousand two seventy-five, and that would be eighteen hundred and seventy-nine per judge. So you can see - and that's just the law division alone, not the other one - so the caseload ks way up in Dupage County and in Lake and McHenry. I'd be happy to answer any questions, and ask for your favorable consideration.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Discussion? Senator Derman.

Question of the sponsor.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Sponsor indicates he will yield. Senator Berman.

Senator, I'm totatly in appreciation of the needs for more judges in these counkies. I guess my question to you is, in order to attract the best and most gualified, will you also support a judicial pay raise for these judqes?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Philip . 179 7- 1 i I STATE 0F ILLINOIS ! 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 1 89th Legislative Day May 15: 1990 ! SENATOR PHILIP: Welly you know, at the appropriate time Ifd be happy to do that, Senator. I'm not sure right before the November election is a very judicious time to do it. PRZSIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) - - Further discussion? If not, Senatot -- Senator Philip may close. SENATOR PHILIP: Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. As you know, we have a tremendous population explosion in the collar counties. The caseload is up per judge. Whether I like it or not, crime is coming our way, more traffic tickets, more of everything. And we -- we, quite franklyg we need more judges. Ask for your favorable consideration. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) The question is, shall Senate 3il1 2144 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted Who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 52z the Nays are none, none voting Present. Senate Bill 2144, having received the required eonstitutional majority. is declared passed. 2150. Senator Philip. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd -- 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 2150, Mr. Secretary. ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAQRY) Senake Bill 2150. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Readin: of the bill. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Philip . SENATOR PHILIP: Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senate Bill 2150, as amendedy basieally does two things. 180 r STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 It expands the area for testing to include a1l of Dupage, all of Cook, a11 of Kane, all of Lake, and a1l of Will. Secondly, it works out a sliding scale for when you test emissions. If it 's a brand new car, you wouldn't have to have it tested until after three years, then you 'd have to have it tested the next five years, and the nexk seven years, and then after thak, annually. This is -- amendment has been worked out with the Illinois EPA, and quite frankly, I think it's -- ik's a much better deal than having to have late model cars tested every year. Be happy to ask any questions, and ask for your favorable consideration. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Discussion? Senator Topinka. SENATOR TOPINKA : This is a great idea. I have one question. Would this now apply to those areas in Cook and Dupage Who are already under emissions kesting, so they could do tbe three-year on the sliding scale? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senakor Philip. SENATOR PHILIP: That is absolutely correct. Hopefully: it will do tWo things. You won't have to have your car tested as many times. And hopefully: there will be no more lines when you go in to test your Ca r. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Furkher discussion? If not, the question is, shall Senate Bill 2150 pass. Those in favor wkll vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted Who Wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Have all voted Who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. 0n that question, the Ayes are 43, khe Nays are 7, l voting Present. Senate Bill 2150, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Top of l8l q - STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 1 Page l8. 2157. On the ûrder of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is 1 Senate Bill 2157, Mr. Secretary. ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAKRY) Senate Bill 2157. (Secretary reads tktle of bill) 3rd Readinq of the bill. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Keats. SENATOR KEATS: Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Centlemen of Ehe Senate. The explanation in your Calendar is exactly vhat the bill does. It does make it easier for people to reqister to vote. It would be voluntary at the Secretary of State's Office. The Secretary of State is not in opposition to the bill. It really just -- gives everyone a better opportunity to reqister, in a format where people do go With some regularity, doesn't really mandate any additional costsz doesnlt say that they got to have x number of registrars. It says certain people have to be trained, cerkain ready, and that's all it would do. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Discussàon? If not, the question is, shall Senate Sill 2157 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voking is open. Have all voted who wish? Eave al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 56e the Nays are none, none voting Present. Senate Bill 2157. having received Ehe required constitutional majoritye is declared passed. Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bi11 2164, Mr. Secretary. ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAQRI) Senate Bill 2164. (Secretary reads title of bill) It's the 3rd Reading of kbe bill. 182 r I STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GEHERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Donahue. SENATOR DONAHUE: Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senate Bill 2164 makes a change in how we send or how We qive away khe fines that are drug-related. When you have a sinqle unit of government or a single-force laW enforcement agency involved in the drug bust, those fines would go to that unit of government, and it would be diskributed at -- eighty-seven and a half percent would go to that unit of governmenE. The other one would go to - what is it - Juvenile Drug Pund, and that's what this bill does. It's the way it is done in the City of Chicago. We feel it should be done that way for the rest of the State, and Would move for its adoption. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A11 right. Purther discussion? Senator Hawkinson. SENATOR HAWKINSON: Thank you, Mr. President. I rise in opposition to this bill. We have a complicated formula for how we divide these proceeds now, and it's in several different steps, but all of them except for the Cook County formula, which this one Would copy, recognizes that county government ought to get some of the proceeds from these drug fines. The county government pays for the eircuit clerks, the county government pays for the public defender, the county government pays part of the judges' salaries, the county government pays for the assistant State's atkorneyse and the Statels attorneys who prosecuke these cases. If the State Police are -- involved, we recognize tbat part of the money goes to the State Police and part of Ehe money goes to the counky qovernment. If several muniaipalities or the municipalities in the county, or the municipalities in the State Police are involved in makin: such an arrest, we recognize that part of the fine goes to those l83 I STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th LegLslatkve Day May l5, 1990 municipalities, part of the fine qoes to the counties. suggest if you check with your counties, if they are aWare of this bill, you'll find that this would be a drain on the county funds, whieh in turn would cause the counties to have to look elsewhere for the money. We've set up this scheme so that the counties can get a fair share to cover their cost of the prosecution, and I think to take a situation where we remove that and donft give the counties a fair share of the funds, youdre going to have property tax pressures to make up for these funds. I would suggest that - that we not -- we not change the formula in such a way to remove the county responsibility and the eounty share, and I would sugqest a No vote. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Hall. SENATOR HALL: Thank you: Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I agree with Senator Hawkinson. Here he just told you a1l the people there - this would be a terrible drain on counties downstate. And the State Police is already gettin: their share af it out of here. but it's a bad thkng, because many places that you'd have to have to raise taxes: and we have no way of carrying this on now. By the wayy I'd like to aEk the sponsor, who wants this changed? PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Donahue. SENATOR DONAHDE: Well, Mr. -- Senator Hall, it would -- the Ckty of Beardstown's Police Chief is the one who brouqht it to my attention, but your City Police Departments -- Municipal Police Departments across the State would be very in favor of this. And 1... PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) l84  STATE OF ILLTNOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15y 1990 Senator -- I'm sorry. Senaior Donahue.

... Sorry, sir. In your opening comments, when the State Police are involved, fifty percent of it goes to the county, and this bill does not change thaty sir.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall.

Wellg we have a lot of arrests in my county, and this would take - 1111 tell you - We ean ft stand to have another tax increase or to raise taxes down Where I am. So I think ikls a bad bill, and it should receive a No vote.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Jacobs.

Thank your Mr. President. You know, in -- in many of our counties, we gave them a quarter-cent sales Eax. You know, they have a lot of neW revenues that they have available to them . Municipalities in particular smaller municipalàties are tàed in by a tax rate thak is set by law, and I think this is something that we could and should live With, and I happen to be in favor of this piece -- particular piece of legislation, and ask for an Aye vote.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Purkher dkscussion? Senator Geo-Karîs.

Simply, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, may have a conflkct of interest on thls thing, but I am going to vote my conscience.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. Purther discussion? Senator Donahue may close.

185  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15# 1990 I Thank you, Mr. Chairman -- Mr. President. I would say that in closing, that when you have multiple units of government involved in a drug bustz the fines are divided amongst a11 the unitsr and even if the county law enforcement officers are not involved, they receive monies. This affects only When a sinqle law enforcement agency is -- involved, the money would go to them. I would say to you Ehat have -- municipalities in your diskricts, which we al1 do, khey support this issue; they're very much in favor of it. Alsog under this - the law today, we are distributing the monies to the counties under a de facto system. There is no formula in the 1aw that diskributes these monies to the counky. I think this is a good bill, and I ask for your support.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) The question is, shall Senate Bill 2164 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted wbo wish? Have al1 voted Who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 23, the Nays are 25, 2 voting Present. Senate Bill 2164, - sponsor requests postponed consideration, and it will be -- 2164 will be on postponed consideration. Senate Bill 2167. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 2167, Mr. Secretary. '

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) Senate Bill 2167. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Readlng of *he bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Jerome Joyce.

Thank you, Mr. President. It does exactly that. This Authority will consist of Kankakee and Will Counties. Eight -- there will be an eight-member board, four from Kankakee and four I 186  STATE OF ILLINOIS I 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY l E SREGULAR sEssloN ENATE TRANSCRIPT l 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 from Will. The four will -- from each couney will be appointed by the two county boards, and other than that, it's basic boiler -- plate legislation regarding airport authorities. I'd be happy to answer any questions. PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Discussion? If not, the question is, shall Senate Bill 2167 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have al1 voted Who Wish? Have al1 voted *ho wish? Take the record. On that question: the Ayes are 48z the Nays are 2, 1 voting Present. Senate Bill 2167, havinq received the required conskitutional majority: is declared passed. 2192. Senator Jones. 2194. Senakor DeAngelis. 0n the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 2194, Mr. Secretary. ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HhRRï) Senate Bill 2194. (Secretary reads kitle of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator DeAnqelis. . SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you, Mr. President. Senate Bill 2194 is a new Act, and it creates the Illinois Substance Abuse Treatment Program, as a program in which the Departmenk of Corrections will create a pilot program to deal with drug and alcohol abuse. We a11 know that many of the crimes khat are committed today are committed by people that are abusers, who are involved in drug and alcohol abuse. This bill would require that the Department set up this program under its own rules and regulations, a thirty-day program of highly structured activities. The emphasis of this program is that it Will be done on a peer counselor basks. In other Wordsz there will be inmates trained to admlnister this program. If we 187  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5e 1990 are, in fact, intent on reducing the rate of recldivism and reducing the inmates' proclivity for committing crimes once they :et out of prison, we ouqht to pass this pilot program, take a look at it and see how it works, and perhaps later on, even expand it a little. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Discussion? Senator Hall.

Will the sponsor yield for a question?

Sponsor indicates he will yield, Senator Hall.

What's the estimated cost of this, Senator?

Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Senator Hall, it would be very little at this timee 'cause ik's a pilot program , and the Department will determine to What extent they want to get into khis. But as time goes by, if you look at the bill real closely, khe program is basically administered by those inmates who've been through the program, Who through peer counseling are the ones that teach the other inmates on how to reduce their appetite, if you -- if it -- if I might call it that, for drugs and alcohol.

Purther discussion? Senator Watson.

Yes. Thank you. Question of the sponsor.

The sponsor indicates he will yield, Senator Watson.

It seems as thouqh, Senator, We have an agency the 188  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEKBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5# 1990 Department of Alcohol and Substance - Which should handle a ' I program sucb as this, and I donlt know that the Department of I Corrections has the personnel or the where Withal to really get I 1 involved. Why not get the Department of Alcohol and Substance Abuse involved? Have you talked to that parkicular agency, and What is their opinion on this particular bàll? PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Well, there is nothing in the bill, if you read Section 4, Senator Watson, that would preclude the Department from seeking that kind of help. This is a pilot proqram. It is one of its -- . of a kind, and if Corrections feels that that's where they ought to go in order to get the program going within their walls. This is an ln-prison program. It's not an out-program - in-prison prison program, and there's nothinq that would keep them from doing it. PRESIDENT ROCK: Further discusskon? Senator Davidson. SENATOR DAVIDSON: Well, just to respond to the question asked by Senator Watson. Most of you may be aware, but the DASA already has programs for State funds througb not-for-profit organizations throuqhout the Skate, which have programs qoin: with the Department of Corrections. And it's a very outstanding proqram, and it's already in exiskence by -- I know at least three different not-for-profit agencies, one in Springfield, one in the Chicago area, and I've forgotten where the other one is. But there is a program that is in place that is funded by DASA to help the inmates in the Department of Corrections. PRESIDENT ROCKI Purther discussion? Senator Collins. I l89  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990

Question of the sponsor, please?

Indicates khat he will yieldr Senator Collins.

Senator, will this program operate in conjunction with all of the -- I guess my problem with listening to this, you're talking about a new Act, but like Senator Davidson said, they are already programs provided for by outside agencies that go in, provide drug counseling and whatever. What prohibits the inmates now from doing peer counseling, if that's what youlre talking about?

Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Well, first of all, the programs that you dre talkinq about are not peer counseling programsz unless -- unless DASK wants to incarcerate itself, and then run the program . The faet is that -- pardon -- the fact is that this in an inmate-run program. And what prevents it from happening right now is that nobody's doing Nobody is mandating that it be done. Nobody 's got a program in-house that trains the inmates. And Senator Collins, I noticed youlre laughing, but I got to tell you, some of you may be familiar with the Snowflake and Snowball Programs, which basically are peer-driven, peer-counselinq, peer-administered programs that have been very, very successful in the treatment of drugs of drug abusers. PRESIDENT ROCKI Senator Collins.

Yes: Senator -- I -- I quess it is a little amusing. You know , I've done a 1ot of work in this area, but if you cane as you said, if the inmates in this program is going to Eeach okher 190  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMRLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5y 1990 ' I inmates to reduce their appetites for druqs and -- and alcoholr now 1'11 vote for this thing ten times, you know, but I just can't believe that's going to happen.

Al1 right. Further discussion? Senator DeAngelis, to close. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Well: if Senator Collins can vote for this ten times, I want to put her on my campaign staff, 'cause I've got bigqer things for you than just voting on this bill. I urge an Aye vote.

The guestion is, shall Senate Bill 2194 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed: vote Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question: there are 53 Ayes, 2 Nays, none voting Present. Senate Bill 2194, having received the zequired constitutional majority, is declared passed. 2277. Senator Rea. 2293. Senator Luft. 2307. Senator Alexander. Read the bill, Mr. Secretary, please.

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAKRY) Senate Bill 2307. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

Senator Alexander.

Thank youe Mr. president. Eenate Bi1l 2303 deals with the child pornography. And it Would include in its description, that the qenital parts of a child unclothed may not be photographed: or whatever they do wtth these -- pornographic situations, and it would include the pubic area, the buttocks, and the breast of a female child. I would ask that this Body approve this piece of leqislation. l91  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 TRESIDENT RUCKI Any discussion? Diseussion? If not the question is, shall Senate Bi11 2307 pass. Those. in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Take the record . On that question, there are 55 Ayes, no Nays, one voting Present. Senate Bill 2307, havin: received the required constitutional majority, is deelared passed. Al1 right. Ladies and Gentlemen, while we are still on the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Readingy the Secretary has distributed the Recall List. Certain Members have indicated they wish to have their bills recalled from 3rd to 2nd for purposes of an amendment. We will atkempt at this point to accommodate all of those, and then Senator Philip and I have have agreed that we will qo to the Order of Motions in Writing, if, indeed, the sponsors of those motions wish to pursue them . And that will then conclude our business for today. 1510. Senator Jones. 1741. Senator Jones. 1766. Senator Rustra . Top of Page l6, Ladies and Gentlemen, on the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Readinq is Senate Bill 1766. Senator Kustra seeks leave of this Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1766, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. offered by Senator Kustra.

Senator Kustra: on Amendment No. 1.

Thank youy Mr. President and Members of the Senate. This is the bill that allows teaeher insti*uee days, some of them anyway, to be used as parental institute days. The committee requested this bll1 to elarify just who would sign off on the use of these. 192  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 This -- this particular amendment requires that the school dkstrict's inservice advisory committee to approve using teacher institute days as parental institute days be used rather than having the local bargaining reptesentative of -- of the teachers sign off. 80th the teachers and the school boards have signed off on this amendment, and I would move for its adoption.

Senator Kustra's moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 1766. Discussion? If not/ al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Kustra.

Senator Kustra, on Amendment No. 2. SENATOR KUSTRA; Thank youz Mr. President. IId like to withdraw that amendment. PRESIDENT ROCK; A1l right. With leave of the Bodyz the amendment's Withdrawn. Are there further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 1881. Senator Smith seeks leave of the Body to return thaE bill ko the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted . On the Order of House Bills -- Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1881, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Smith.

l93  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 Senator Smkth.

Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. The amendment ...tinaudiblel...to Senate Sill 1881 merely is -- is a section of the bill pertaining to the Child Support Advisory Committee. Senate Amendment No. 1 Ksicl takes effect immediately, and the mammogram coverage for Medicaid recipientsg which from the original bill, will take effect 1/1/91. This amendment Was requested by the proponents of Senate Bill 1881. There is a difference in the dates.

All right. Senator Smith moves the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 1881. Discussion? If nok, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Senator Jones is With us. 1510. Madam Secretary. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading, middle of Page l5: is Senate Bill 1510. Senator Jones seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Readtng for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1510, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Jones.

Senator Jones.

Yeah . Thank your Mr. President and Kembers of the Senate. Amendment No. will - will require clinical social -- social l94  STATB 0F ILLINOIS 86th GBNERAL ASSEMBLV REGOLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5y 1990 Workers to zecommend that their patients confer wikh their primary care physician and shall notify that such primary care physicians of the services that are being provlded. And I move its adoption.

All right. Senator Jones has moved Ehe adoption of Amendment No. 2 ko Senate Bill 1510. Discussion? If notg all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No furthel amendments.

3rd Reading. Top of Page 16 is Senate Bill 1741. Senator Jones seeks leave of the Body ko return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave qranted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bïlls 2nd Readkng is Senate Bill 1741, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 6 offered by Senator Jones.

Senator Jones.

Veah. Thank youy Mr. President. Amendment No. 6 is merely a technical clean-up amendment, and I move its adoption.

Senator Jones has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 6 to Senate Bill 1741. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted . Are there further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Readinq. Senator Macdonald. Middle of Page l6r Senator l95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legkslatkve Day May l5# 1990 Macdonald, is Senate Bill 1905. Senator Macdonalde seeks leave of the Body to rekurn thak bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readinq is Senate Bill 1905: Madam Secretary .

Amendment No. 1 offered by Senator Macdonald.

Senator Macdonald, on Anendment No .

Yes. Mr. President, this amendment was recommended by Chapman and Cutler. And it deletes the language and replaces it With an additional requirement for alternate bonds, which are issued after January 1, 1991. So I move -- the passage of this amendment.

All right. Senator Macdonatd has moved the adoption of Amendmenk No. 1 to Senate Bill 1905. Is there any discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicake by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have kt. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 1916. Senator Rea seeks leave to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bll1 1916, Madam Secrekary.

Amendment No. 1 offered by Senator Fea.

Senator Reaz on Amendment No.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. l elimknates the l96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15: 1990 language prohibiting a unit of local qovernmenty including bome rule units, from contracting with a private contractor or vendor to manage a correetional faciliky. I would move for its adoption .

All right. Senator Rea has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1916. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Middle of Page 17. Senator Geo-Karis seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 2106 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. 0n the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 2106, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Severns.

Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Amendment No. 3 simply provides clarifying languaqe as it relates to supervision and the clerk fees. Would move for its adoption.

All right. Senator Severns has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 2106. Discussion? If not. a1l in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Further amendments? Further amendments?

No further amendments.

l97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENZRAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 3rd Reading. Senator Philip, 2143, seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading Eor purposes of an amendment. Is leave gtanted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 2143, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator DeAngelis.

Senator Dehngelis, on Amendment No. 2. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 2143 is, in fact, a property tax reduction amendment. It is essentially the same as 2225, but corrected for the problems that you thought the bill had, Senator Netsch. It essentially does the property kax reduction by lowering a permissive rate that education could level at its Educational Fund, twenty-flve cents for elementary, twenty-five cents for secondary, and fifty cents for unit districts the first year, and ten cents for units, and five cents for elementary and secondary each for the followin: four years, so that over a period of five years, we will have successfully moved the permlssive rates to almost fifty percent where it is# and started the State on its long journey of replacing property taxes With State-supported income. The income that replaces the money that education loses will come from the Local Government Distributive Fund. I have a document bere Which I Will circulate before 3rd Reading for the Economic and Fiscal CommiBsion that demons*raees wikhout -- demonskrates that it is revenue-neutral and thatz in fact, this can be acconplished. Be very happy to answer any questions.

All right. Senator DeAngelis has moved the adoption of Anendment No. Discussion? Senator Geo-Raris.

l98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May 15, 1990 Sponsor yield for a question?

Indicates he Will yield, Senator Geo-Karis.

Just in one brief sentence, what does your amendment do?

Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: It's a property tax reduction.

Further discussion? Senator Netsch.

Thank you, Mr. President. In the interest of full disclosure, Senator DeAngelis, you also ought to add that I think it is a permanent Income Tax increase. I have a question that -- first of all, there were several versions that were circulated today , and I Want to know because We have not had time to examine this whether I've 9ot the riqht one. Does it end up in 2l43NCcaam02? R11 right. If I might continue, then We -- we have not had a chance to analyze this yet, because you Were, in fact: circulating several versions today. I believe that - What it does represent is a permanent increase in the State Income Tax with property tax reductions, as you have indicated. As Ear as I'm concerned, you want to put the amendment on and we'll have a chance to look at it before 3rd Reading, We Will be voting on it one way or the other, and I think that would be appropriate. BuE we certainly do need an opportunity to see exactty what it does. This is not, it should be pointed out, a ''merelyf 'amendment. This is a major tax proposal, and it does involve the income tax as well as property taxes.

Further discussion? Senator Dudycz. l99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANGCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990

Yes. Thank you, Mr. President. I just heard a few statements that I -- woke me up. Question of the sponsor.

Indicates that he will yield, Senator Dudycz.

Senator, you said that this is a property tax reduction and Senator Netsch mentioned something about a - making an Income Tax permanent. Could you please clarify? Is this is a reduction, or is this an increase, or What does this thing do?

Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Well, if you will take the banner out of your navel for a minute on the tax accountability issue, I will explain to you that kt keeps the tax at where it is right now. Frankly: what the bill does do -- it says if this -- tax is extended, it will have to be used for property tax relief. But the tax is no larger than what it is right now. It is not an increase, Senator Netsch. This is a tax we are paying right now.

Senator Dudycz.

Please clarify that, Senator. Are you saying, if it's extended, or is this -- mandatin: it, and saying it will be exkended?

senator DeAnqelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: No, it'g -- that's correct. It's based on the extension. If the extension doesn 't go through, this doesn't go through.

200  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 Further discussion? Senator -- I'm sorry -- Senator Dudycz. 1 Okay. Senator Jacobs. ' I

I Well, just one question, Mr. President. Would the Senator I I yield? PRESIDENT ROC:: Indicates he will yield, Senator Jacobs.

Well, will this be -- be subject then to the extraordinary majority to -- to get this passed at this time, beings it's futuristic?

Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: There was no intent to require -- Oh, I'm sorry: I got you. No, it won 't be. Not yet. Sorry.

Further discussion? Senator Berman. Senator Berman.

Thank you, Kr. President. Question of the sponsor.

Indicates that he will yield, Senator Berman.

If - how do you coordinate khe amount of the money that is flowing from the municipality part of the Income Tax? How is that distribuEed to khe school districks?

Senakor DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Better than the property tax is, gcause it's one-twelfth per monkh over twelve months.

201  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Leqislative Day May 15# 1990 Senator Berman.

No, my -- well, I guess -- like, let me reverse this. Will -- do you have some -- information that can be distributed to a11 of us, so we see how this will Work before 3rd Reading? I mean: you know, as far as where the money will be coming from , because I will tell you, you're asking for a number of us that represent high-taxing school districts to take a very dangerous vote on this bill at this time. And I'm sure that you reeognize that as well as anyone else. I want to know what I'm voting on, and I1m sure that you're -- that everybody else wants to know. So, 1111 withdraw any further questions, but just hope that Wedve qot enough information before this is called on 3rd Reading, so we know what what will be presented. Thank you.

Al1 right. Purther discussion? Senator Netsch. SENATOR NETSCH I Well again, -- think itls very important: Senaeor DeAngelis, that *e have plenty of time before 3rd Readinq. You lre going to get a vote on your proposal eikher now or later. And it would make more sense, I suspect: later when We, at least, we lve had time to read what is in your proposal. I think it is similar to what you had introduced in committee, but again, we have not read :t. I would in -- in answer to Senator Dudycz, make it clear that while it is not an increase over our eemporary Income Tax increase, is a permanent three percent and 4.8 percent. So that in that sense, lt is a permanent increase in the State Income Tax with, we believe, concomitant reductions in property tax. That we will see only when wedve had time to examine khe content of the amendment.

A1l right. Question is the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to 202  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5# 1990 Senate Bill 2143. Further discussian? If notp all in favorz indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Ladies and Gentlemen, additional Motions to Discharge have been filed, the Secretary informs me. So perhaps: if the sponsors will agree, we can take them a11 tomorrow . I think everybody has had about enough for today. Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: I have leave from the sponsor to be named the chief sponsor of 2143.

I1m surprised it took him that long to get off it. A11 right. With leave of the Body, Senator Philip will be removed from that awesome responsibility, and Senator DeAngelis will be shown as the chief sponsor of 2-1-4-3. 1s there any ëurther business that anybody wishes ko transaet, or brin: to anybody 's attention? A11 riqht. Ladies and Gentlepen, let me just again remind you of the Agreed Bill proeedure and List. encourage you to go over the list as Senator Phillp and I have. Additionallye we will try to handle all the approprlation bills in a similar manner. They will also be listed as an Agreed Bill List. And so, if we can get skarted on time Eomorrow, we can conceivably eonclude our business on Thursday. If We can - if we can. We will Kry. Nine o 'clock tomorrow mornknq. Senator Philip.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I'd like the record to indicate that Senator Schuneman is# once againy home convalescinq from an operation. talked to 203  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GEHERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT :9th Legislative Day May l5y 1990 him today. He's feeling much stronger and much better.

Good . That's good news, and the record will so reflect. Oh yes, Senator Davidson has a resolution for -- has to be presented this evening. Resolutions, Madam it Will be nine o'clock tomorrow morning, Ladies and Gentlemen. Nine o'clock tomorrow morning, we will begin on the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading again, and then move to 3rd Readings. Resolutions, Madam Secretary.

Senate Resolutkon 1067 offered by Senator Davidson and all Members. Senate Resclution 1068 offered by Senator Hudson. Senate Resolution 1069: 1070, 1071 offered by Senator Savickas. Senate Resolution 1072 offered by Senator Topinka. Senate Resolution 1073 offered by Senator J.E. Joyce. Senate Resolution 1074 offered by Senator Demuzio: President Rock and others. Senate Joint Resolutlon 173 offered by Senator Woodyard. They're a11 congratulatory.

Consent Calendar. Senator Davidson, for what purpose do you arise, sir?

Mr. Presfdent, IId like to suspend the rules and adopt 1069<sic>(1067). Itfs congratulatory for the retiring Brigadier General, John Johnson. They want to present it to him and tonkght, and I'd like to have that done, if you donft mknd .

Senator Davidson has moved to suspend the rules for the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Resolution 1067, a 204  STATE OF ILLINOIS I 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY ' REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 89th Legislative Day May l5, 1990 ! conqratulatory resolution that has to be presented khis evening. All in favor of the Motion to Suspend, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The rules are suspended. Senator Davidson now moves the adoption of Senate Resolution 1067. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The resolution is adopted. Further resolutions, Madam Secretary? SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Joint Resolution l74 and Senate Joint Resolution 175. 80th offered by Senator Woodyard. They're both substantive. PRESIDENT ROCK: Executive. Al1 right. If there's no further business to come before the Senate, Senator Vadalabene moves that the Senate stand adjourned until Wednesday, May l6. Wednesday, tomorrow morning, at khe hour of nine o'clock. 9 a.m., Ladies and Gentlemen. 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