The hour of twelve having arrived, the Senate Will please come to order. Will the Members be at their desks, and will our guests in the gallery please rise. Our prayer this afternoon by the Reverend Rudolph Shoultz, Union Baptist Church, Springfield, Illinois. Reverend.
(Prayer by the Reverend Rudolph Shoultz)
Thank you, Reverend. Reading of the Journal, Madam Secretary.
Senate Journal of Tuesday: May l4, 1991.
Senator Hall.
Thank you, Mr. President. I move that the Journal just read by the Secretary be approvedr unless sone Senator has additions or corrections to offer.
You 've heard the motion as placed by Senator Hall . Is there any discussion? If not, a1l in favor, indicate by saying Aye . All opposed . The Ayes have it. The motion carries : and it is so ordered . Senator Hall.
Mr. President , I move that reading and approval of the Journals of Wednesday, May 15; and Thursdayy May 16, in the year 1991, be postponed, pending arrival of the printed Journals.
You 've heard the motion as placed by Senator Hall . Is there any discussion? If not y al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye . Al1 opposed. The Ayes have lt. The motion carries# and it is so ordered . Resolutions . 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS j 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION I SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Resolution 389 offered by Senator Daley and a11 Members. It is a death resolution. And Senate Joint Resolution 56 offered by Senator Hawkinson. It's a designatory. PRESIDENT ROCK: Consent Calendar. Messages from the House. SECRETARY HAWKER : A Message from the House by Mr. O 'Brien, Clerk. Mr. President - I am direeted to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has passed bills of *he following titles, in the passage of which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senate, to wit: House Bills 2e 5, 121, l64, 237 . 242 . 257 , 262 , 293 , 298, 34l# 406, 426# 455, 493 : 516: 533 , 554# 572, 6l4, 628 , 687 , 734y 770, 772 , 780 , 785 -- pardon me, that 's 795, 859 , 899 , 9l0 , 93l# 942, 990# 1011, 1091, 1097 , 1109, 1134# 1166 , 1183, 1245, 1260# 1283 , 1302 , 1316, 1333, 1364 , 1405, 1408, 1429, 1488 # 1497 , ' 1551, 1572, 1608 # 1644, 1659 , 1684z 1699, 1700, 1804z 1842# 1850 , 1857, 1884 , 1892 # 1932y 1940, 2022 , 2042, 2056 # 2057y 2118, 2125, 2138, 2139, 2147 , 2148g 2174 , 2309, 2337, 2349, 2364 , 2385, 23 -- pardon me -- 92, 2422, 2443, 247lz 2531, 2579, 2633, 2643, (33, 41# 43, 56, 61# 62, 64, 73, 89, 92, 98# 99, 111, 115# 118, l26, l3l # 139 , l40# l50, 15l , 155, 165, l69 , 188z l9l, 192# 193, 197, l98 , 20l , 2l6 , 220 . 223, 233, 234, 240, 242 , 256e 265. 280, 283, 296 , 312 , 325, 384s 385, 388g 39l y 404g 422, 428 , 432o 433, 434, 444 , 462 , 495 , 496 , 502, 503, 52l , 527# 534 , 535 , 545# 562, 563# 564 , 567 , 587, 619, 625 , 627, 629# 630 y 631, 633, 635, 637 , 646# 678 g 679 , 680 , 68l , 689, 700, 703 , 706, 709 , 723 , 7 24 , 728. 729, 751, 763, 782# 79l# 792y 796, 799, 808 , 8l0# 811, 829, 835, 838, 843, 844, 845ê 846 , 864 872 , 874, 875 . 89l, 908, 909 , 923# 947, 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 963: 973, 1006, 1019, 1023, 1030, 1032, 1042, 1050, 1093, 1098, 1131, 1151: 1160, 1161, 1190, 1205, 1210, 1211, 1213, 1244, 1246, 1248, 1249, 1250, 1264, 1279, 1281, 1286, 1299, 1316, 1318: 1345, 1348: 1350, 1428: 1439, 1451). (Bi1ls inside parentheses read in error.) Passed the House, May l6, 1991. A Message from the House by Mr. OlBrienr Clerk. Mr. President I am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has passed bills of the following titles, in the passage of Which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senate, to wit: House Bills 178, 179, 478, 619, 847: 1188, 1216, 1243, 1244, 1286, 1352, 1487, 1805, 1852, 1908, 1956, 2458, 2524. Passed the Housey May 1991.
A11 right. With leave of the Body, we dll turn to Page 45 on the Calendar. Page 45 on the Calendar, to the Order of House Bills 1st Reading. House Biils 1st Reading, Madam Secretary.
House Bill ll8 offered by Senator Jones. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill l25 offered by Senator Rea. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 133 offered by Senator Cullerton. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill l43 offered by Senator Brookins. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 3l7 offered by Senator Thomas Dunn. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 391 offered by Senator Berman. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3 CN STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 House Bill 452 offered by Senators Leverenz and Friedland. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 466 offered by Senator Pawell. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 475 offered by Senator Topinka. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 495 offered by Senator Jones. (Secretary reads title of b11l) House Bill 706 offered by Senator Welch. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 739 offered by Senator Smith. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 838 offered by Senator Thomas Dunn. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 875 offered by Senator Severns. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 92l offered by Senator Hall. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 957 offered by Senator Lechowicz. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1000 offered by Senator Severns. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1199 offered by Senator Jacobs. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1285 offered by Senator Barkhausen. (Secretary reads tikle of bill) House Bill 1379 offered by Senator Karpiel. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1383 offered by Senator Cullerton. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1407 offered by Senator Jones. (Secretary reads title of bill) 4 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 House Bill 1440 offered by Senator Jones. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1462 offered by Senator Macdonald. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1483 offered by Senator Jones. (Secretary reads title of bi1l) House Bill 1556 offered by Senator Butler. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bil1 1764 offered by Senator Daley. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1813 offered by Senator J .J. Joyce. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1832 offered by Senator Etheredge. (Secretary reads title of bill) House B1ll 2040 offered by Senator Jones. (Secretary reads title of b111) House Bill 2100 offered by Senator Fawell. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2250 offered by Senator Joyce.' ' (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2281 offered by Senator Kelly. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2293 offered by Senator Jones. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2314 offered by Senator Hall. (secretary reads title of bi11) House Bill 2355 offered by Senator Luft. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2358 offered by Senator D'Arco. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2360 offered by Senator Cullerton. (Secretary reads title of bill) 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legkslatkve Day May 20, 1991 House Bill 2366 offered by Senator Demuzlo . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2374 offered by Senator Cullerton. (Secretary reads tltle of bill) House Bill 2378 offered by Senator Cullerton. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2380 offered by Senator Weaver. (Seeretary reads title of bill) House Bill 24 -- pardon me -- 2417 offered by Senator Jacobs. (Seeretary reads title of b1ll) House Bill 2423 offered by Senator Cullerton. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2466 offered by Senator Holmberg. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2589 offered by Senator Welch. (Secretary reads title of bill) And House Bill 43l offered by Senator Barkhausen. (Seeretary reads title of bill) lst Reading of the bills.
If I can have your attention, Ladies and Gentlemen, direct your attention to Pages 25 through 45 on the Calendar. You should have on your desk a computer printout that corresponds to those pages on the Calendarz listing a proposed Agreed Bill List No. 2 that Was put together through the cooperation of my office and senator Philip 's office. We would direct your attention to that list. That list will be voted on on Wednesday. As I'm sure everyone is aware, Friday is the deadline date to consider House - - Senate bills in the Senate, and I would encourage all of ycu to work diligently today, tomorrow, Wednesday and Thursday, because late Friday afternoon, it appears that the only ones left might be Senator Philip and 1. We are going to begin on Page 2 on the 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislatïve Day May 20, 1991 Calendar and qo through the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, with the exception of the appropriation bills. The appropriation - - both majority and minority tell me they are not quite ready to proceed with amendments. So those will be held until tomorrow or Wednesday. So we wlll qo through Senate Bills 2nd Reading, and then proceed immediately to Senate Bills 3rd Reading. If any of you have bills you wish to recall, please file the amendment and advise the Secretary so that they can be placed on a list, which list will be distributed, so that everybody can know what we're about here. We are going to begin on Page 2 on the Calendar; that is Senators Berman, Collinsy Berman, Berman, Kelly, Brookins, Dunn, Dunn, Joyeey Collins, Smith, Smith, Dunn, and we will continue straight on through. We will obviously again tomorrow be on 2nd Reading, but I'd encourage those of you who are in a position to move your bills to move them. You will find that Friday is going to come upon us rather quiekly. Senator Philip, for what purpose do you arise, sir?
Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Just to maybe start us out on the right foot today: like to Table Senate Bill 1242, which I am the main sponsor.
Page 13 on the Calendar, on tbe Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readinq. Senator Philip seeks leave to go to that Order for the purpose of Tabling. Leave is certainly granted. On the Order of senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1242. Senator Philip moves to Table Senate Bill 1242. A11 in favor of the Motion to Table, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The motion carries. Senate Bill 1242 ls Tabled. Senator O 'Daniel, for what purpose do you arise? Senator Widen, would you Tom Dunn. Senator O'Daniel.
7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20. 1991 Mr. President, I'd like leave would like leave of the Body to Table Senate Bill 516. It's on one of the proposed Agreed Bills Lists, so it will be one less.
Page 32 on the Calendar. Senator O 'Daniel seeks leave to go to the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading on the Agreed Bill List, Senate Bill 516. Senator O 'Daniel moves to Table Senate Bill 516. A11 in favor of the Motion to Table, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. Motion carries, and Senate Bill 516 is Tabled . Again, we're going to start on Pa:e 2 on the Calendar and go straight through the Calendar. We Will skip today, for the purpose of today, the appropriations bills, which are obviously listed in boldface type. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 2. Senator Berman. Senate Bill 3. Senator Collins. Read the bill, Madam Secreeary, please.
Senate Bill 3. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Elementary and Secondary Education offers Committee Amendment No. 1.
Senator Colllns, on Committee Amendment No.
Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. is really a clarifying amendment. was requested by the Board to clarify the oriqinal intent of the bill, and I Would move for its adoption.
Senator Collins has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 3. Diseussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Further amendments? 8 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
No further committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Floor?
No Eloor amendments.
3rd Reading. Senate Bill l0. Senator Berman. 11. Senate Bill 15. Senator Kelly. Senate Bill 22. Senator Brookins. Senate Bill Senator Tom Dunn. 42. Senator Dunn. 72. Senator Joyce. Read the bill, Madam Secretary: please.
Senate Bill 72. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Floor?
Senator J .E. Joyce offers Amendment No.
Senator Joyce, on Amendment No.
Thank you. Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Amendment No. to Senate Bill 72 raises the number of signatures required from a hundred to two thousand, consistent wieh the testimony of the committee here, and I move its adopbion at this tlme.
Senator Joyce has moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 72. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by sayin: Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Purther amendments?
STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 No further amendments.
3rd Reading. 83. Senator Collins. Read the billr Madam Secretary, please.
Senate Bill 83. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Revenue offers Committee Amendment No.
Senator Collins, on Committee Amendment No. 1.
Yes, thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Now, Committee Amendment No. clarifies the point in time in which veterans may delay their property tax payments, and when it will become due. I would move for its adoption.
Senator Collins has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senake Bill 83. Discussion? If not, all in favory indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted . Are there further amendments?
No further committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Floor?
No Floor amendments.
3rd Reading. 106. Senator Smith. 116. Senator Dunn. 144. Senator Rea. 145. Senator Rea. Read the bill, Madam Seeretary. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, top of Page Ladies and Gentlemen, is Senate Bill 145. Read the bill, please. 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATZ TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
Senate Bill 145. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readin: of the bill. No committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Floor?
No Floor amendments.
3rd Reading. 146. Senator Rea. Senator Dunn. 195. Senator Severns. 204. Senator Dunn. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, middle of Page 3: is Senate Bill 204. Read the bill, please.
Senate Bill 204. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Transportation offers Committee Amendment No. 1.
Senator Dunn, on Committee Amendment No.
Thank you, Mr. Presidene. I'd like to Table Committee Amendment No.
Senator Dunn has moved to Table Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 204. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor, indicate by saying Aye. opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted -- I mean, the amendment is Tabled. Further amendments?
No further committee amendments.
Amendments from the Floor? 11 STATE 0P ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX RECULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
Senator Thomas Dunn offers Amendment No . 2.
Senator Dunn, on Amendment No. 2.
Thank you, Mr. President. This Amendment provides for a payment schedule by an individual Wpo does not have automobile insurance and declares bankruptcy. This -- this amendment would provide that that individual would not be reinstated with his driver's license until he has paid certain amounts of money to the individual who was Wronqed. In other words' the person might be discharged in bankruptcy, but in order to qet his license, he has to make certaln paymentsp that are done on a percentage basisz to the wronged individual.
Senator Dunn has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 204. Diseussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have The amendyent's adopted. Purther amendments?
No further amendments.
3rd Reading. 214. Senator Cullerton. 226. Senator Smith. 230. Senator Daley. Read the bill, Madam Secretary: please. 230.
Senate Bi1l 230. (Secretary reads title of bi1l) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
Are there amendments from the --
Excuse me. Ifm sorry, Senator. The Committee on 12 STATE 0P ILLIHOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Transportation offers Committee Amendment No. 1.
Again, I'm going to ask the staff to please take the conferences, as besk they can, off the Floor. Senator Daley, on Committee Amendment No.
Thank youy Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. l would requkre a person to sign an affirmaeion that conforms xsic> that he or she will abide by the mandatory insuranee laws requiring liability insurance when those laws are applicable.
Senator Daley has moved the adoption of Comnittee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 230. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?
Senator Daley -- no further committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Ploor?
Senator Daley offers Committee -- offers Floor Amendment No. 2.
Senator Daley, on Amendment No.
Floor Amendment No. 2 Would increase the fees for reinstatement of licenses of the following: from sixty to a hundred twenty dollars for persons who have eompleted teses ehat showed an alcohol concentration of .l0 or more) from sixty to three-fifty fot persons who refuse or fail to complete a test -- or tests to determine the person's alcobol or drug concentration; 13 STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Leqislative Day May 20y 1991 from sixty to one-twenty for the first revocation of a DUT offense; from sixty to two-fifty for the second offense; from sixty to five hundred for the third. Thirty dollars of the fee shall be deposited into the Drunk and Driving Ksic> (Drunk and Drugqed Driving) Prevention Fund that is used by DASA to relmburse the DUI evaluatians and edueational proqrams lieensed by the Department. The rest of the fees will be deposited in the Violent Crime Victims' Assistance Pund.
Senator Daley has moved tbe adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 230. Discussion? Senator Schuneman.
Thank you, Mr. President. Question of the sponsor.
Sponsor indieates he will yleld, Senator Schuneman.
Senator, I'm a little out of date on this, but I heard on the previous amendment think you mentioned mandatory auto insurance. Could you tell us one more time what that did?
Senator --
What that amendment did?
Senator Daley.
It Would require affirmatlon that you do have insurance with the Secretary of -- with the Secretary of State. The Secretary of State -- is signed off on this amendment.
Senator Schuneman. SENATOR SCHUNEkAN: 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 8?th CENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Well, I understand that what we would now have in Illinois is a procedure whereby the -- the auto license application would inquire as to whether the motorist has insurance before he qets his llcense?
Senator Daley.
Yes, sir, that is correct.
Further discussion? If notg Senator -- Senator Brookinsa on Amendment No. 2.
Thank you. Would the sponsor yield for a question?
Sponsor kndicates he will ykeldy Senator Brookins. SENATOR BROOKINS) Senator, did I hear you say that you would Eake this person's driver's license even if he was not near the automobile when this offense -- is that this bill?
Senator Daley.
No, sir. It's another bill.
A11 right. Further discussion? not, Senator Daley basz moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 ko fenake Pill 230. Purthêr dkscussion? A11 kn favor: indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?
Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Daley.
15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Senator Daley, on Amendment %o. 3.
Amendment No. would increase the fee for restricted drivinq permits for DUI offenders frcm eight dollars to one hundred. It would make a neW one-hundred fee for the judicial driving permits for DUI offenders. And al1 fees would be paid to the Violent Crime Victims' Assistance Fund.
Senator Daley has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 230. Is there discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saylng Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Purther amendments?
Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Daley.
Senator Daley, on Amendment No. 4.
-- Amendment No. 4 would extend the length of time a driver's license is suspended from six months to nine months for refusal or failure to complete the test to determine the alcohol or drug conceneration in one's blood.
Senator Daley has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 230. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?
Amendment No. 5 offered by Senator Daley.
Senator Daley, on Amendment No.
Amendment No. 5 would allow the courts to make a condition of 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 supervision, if eonvicted of a DOI, for the payment to a public agency for the cost of emergeney response -- not to exceed five hundred.
Senator Daley has moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 230. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor: indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?
No fureher amendments.
3rd Reading. 259. Senator Ralph Dunn. Read the billw Madam Secretary, please.
Senate Bill 259. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on State Government Organization and Administraeion offers Committee Amendment No.
Senator Dunn, on Committee Amendment No.
Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. like to move to Table Committee Amendment No. 1. Itds technically incorrect, and we have an amendment that straishtens it out.
Al1 rtght. Senator Dunn has moved to Table Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senate B:ll 259. Discussion? If noty al1 in favor' indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. Th' e amendment's Tabled . Further amendments?
No furtber committee amendments.
STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Amendments from the Floor?
Senator Ralph Dunn offers Amendment No. 2.
Senator Dunn, on Amendment No. 2.
Thank your Mr. President. This is the same as the commiktee amendment exeept for a teehnical error that was straightened out. It addressed the problem that Central Management Services thought they might have: to make the bank only apply to catastrophic illness or injuries. I move its adoption.
Senator Dunn has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 259. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?
No further amêndments.
3rd Reading. 271. Senator de1 Valle. 294. Senator Macdonald. 299. Senator Daley. Fiscal note has been requested, Senator, on 2-9-9. A11 right. We again wl11 be skipping - passing over the appropriation bills today. So I turn your attention ko Page 7 on the Calendar. Page 7. Page on the Calendar, Ladies and Gentlemen, on the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading. 378. Senator Jacobs. 380. Senator Berman. 390. gena*or Heaver. Read the billz Madam Secretary, please. 3-9-0.
Senate Bill 390. (Seeretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No eommittee amendments.
18 STATE OF ILLINOTS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Any amendments from the Floor?
No Floor amendments.
3rd Reading. 399. Senator Newhouse. 405. Senator Severns. 424. Senator Berman. 443. Senator Cullerton. 478. Senator Dunn. Bottom of Page 7. 482. Senator Maitland. Top of Page 8. 484. Senator Severns. 485. Senator Sehaffer. 497. Senator Luft. 500. Senator Severns. Read the bill, Madam Secretary: please. Top of Page 8. Top of Page 8, Ladies and Gentlemen, on the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 500. Read the bill, please.
Senate Bi11 500. (Secretary reads title of bi11) 2nd Reading of *he bill. The Committee on Public Health: Welfare and Corrections offers Committee Amendment No. 1.
Senator Severns, on Committee Amendment No.
Thank you, Mr. Presidentr Members of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. l simply provided the funding mechanism through a hospital assessment plan for a two-year period. I know of no opposition. I Would urge its adoption.
Senator severns has moved the adoption of Committee Amendmen: No. l to Senate Bill 500. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?
No further committee amendments.
19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Are khere amendments from the Floor?
Senator Topinka offers Amendment No. 2.
Once again, I'm going to have to admonish the staff to please take the conferences off the Floor. Senator Topinka, on Amendment No. 2.
Xes, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate: Amendment No. 2 would remove the sunset provision from this bill so that it eould remain ongoing.
Senator Topinka has moved the adoption af Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 500. Discussion? Senator Severns.
Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 2, in my opinkon, is dilatory. The Hospital Association has said that they would remove their entire support from tbis bill that they have worked long and hard to arrive at. In short, the Hospital Association. after being paid late and low, has been generous enough to go back to their members to ask that they reimburse the State one-half of the profit that Would be garnered through the implementation of SB 500. They've said that they would assess their hospitals for a two-year period. I think it's a qenerous offer, and I think to remove that to make it a period forever would -- would be dilatory to the bill: and certainly to the intent.
All right. Senator Topinka has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2. Furtber discussion? Senator DeAnqelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you, Mr. President. As the hyphenated sponsor on this bill, I would think that the bill ought to be left in the form of 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 the people who Were good enough to advance a formula for which they would pay a substantial amount to relieve a serious medical crisis. And I Would suggest tbat it be left in the form that it was introduced by the people who wanted it that way, rather than an amendment Which I think Would essentially destroy the entire intent of the blll.
Further discussion? Senator Demuzio.
Well, thank you Mr. Thank you, Mr. President. just think there are a lot of people who aren't listening as to what's taking place here. And think Senator Severns is -- is absolutely correct that this amendment makes this bill perpetual: and obviously -- Ilm sorry. It sunsets it and, as T recall correctly, takes out the sunset provision; therefore, makes perpetually. I don't think that's what We want to do.
All right. Senator Topinka has moved the adoption of Amendment No. . Further discussion?' Senator Topinka, to close.
Yes, if I may: Mr. President, in response to some of the comments that have occurred. think, you know, we are grateful eo the Hospital Association for assessing their members and for coming to the assistance of the State in what is probably the worst financial crunch in the -- in the decade. However, once we become committed to this proqram, should their assessment be Withdrawn, the Department of Public Aid does note that the State now would become fully responsible for llke a two hundrqd million dollar hit. And I don't know that we necessarily know what the economics for the State are going to be at this time. We will be out there. We will be committed. It might leave us in some very difficult straits, and I would indeed move the amendment. STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20y 1991
Senator Topinka has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 500. Those in favor, indicate by sayinq Aye. Opposed Nay. In the opinion of the Chair: the Noes have it. Amendment fails. Further amendments?
Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Topinka.
Senator Topinka, on Amendment No. 3.
Yes, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, this would put a sunset on the entire reform program after two years. PRESIDENT ROCK) Senator Topinka has moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 500. Discussion? Senator Severns.
Thank you# Mr. President: Members of the Senate. For the last seven yearsy ke have underfunded the Medicaid Reimbursement Program. SB 500 is a Menuine attempt to overhaul that program as we know it, and I think to say at the outset that We're going to sunset it in two years is not the direetion that we want to move. It certainly Was intended to be a long-term approach. Certainly, if it has any difficulties durin: this two years, we will want to correct them. know of no difficulties today, and think would be wrons to kill it automatically in a two-year period. would urge a No vote on this amendment.
Further discussion? Senator Welch.
I have a question of the sponsor of the amendment.
22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 8?th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Sponsor indicates she will yield, Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH: Senator Topinka, under the bill, without the amendment, three years from now the State will be responsible for approximately a hundred and fifty million dollars exkra in fqnding for hospitals. Is that correct? PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Topinka. SENATOR TOPINKA: It's aetually tWo hundred and fifty million. That's according to the Department of Public Aid and the fiscal note. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Welch. Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH: So what we are doing - if we pass this bill without your amendment - is obligate the Legislature, beginning in the three years out, to spend an extra tWo hundred and fifty million dollars that ke probably won 't have, when this year wedre looking at cuttinq over a billion dollars out of the budget. Is that correct? PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Topinka. SENATOR TOPINEA: That is correct. This is, you know, trying to look forward as to Where We're going to be in the next two years. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH) Mr. President, Senator Severns has a good idea. Unfortunately, donlt think We should bind ourselves two years from now. I think in two years many of the Members will be here. Why don't we decide then whether to continue the program? In t<o 23 c, STATE OF TLLINOIS 87th CENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 years we 'll know what our economy looks like. We won't have a11 these clouds hanging over our head and guessing whether we have an extra two hundred and fifty million dollars. My guess is we kon 't have the money. So I would urge support of Senator Topinka's amendment.
Further discussion on the amendment? senator Hall.
Thank you. I rise opposed to this amendment. Senator Welch is absolutely correct. 1 would ask that We vote against this.
Purther dkscusskon? Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you: Mr. President. Just to reiterate. Thks is an idea that was floated by a responsible body in terms of dealing with the crises. think we ought to have thak bill voted on in tbe form that it was presented, rather than tinker with it so that it, in reality, could fail. Let's vote up or down the way is: but letfs quit messing around with You know, if you don't like the Mona Lisa, don't throw paint on it because you don't làke Italians.
Any further discussion? Senator Topinka, to close. I 'm sorry. Senator Schuneman.
Thank you, Mr. Presidenk. thlnk Ehere's some confusion on the Floor about this bill.
One of the reasons there is there's too many staff eonferences. Again, I'm going to admonish the staff to please take the conferences off the Floor so that the Membership can hear. We are down now beyond the noneontroversial bills. There Will indeed 24 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 be some controversial amendments, and the Members have a right to be heard. Senator Schuneman.
As I heard Senator Welchls statement, he Was speaking in support of the amendment. And then the later speaker indicated that he supported Senator Welch's position against the amendment. And I just simply think we ought to have another explanation by the sponsor of exactly What this amendment does and what the long-term effect might be so We can make an intelligent vote on it. PRESIDENT R0CK: Sponsor will, as always, have the opportunity to close. Further discussion? Senator Topinkaz to close.
Well, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, in summarizing this and think we really have to look awfully carefully - wedre laying off fourteen hundred people this year. We're already at a ninety-two-day payment cycle for our hospitals. We are not paying our bills. We're around seven hundred million in the hole. There is nothing out there now that allows for us to even anticipate What We're qoin: to be like financially two years hence. think Senator Severns Was very correct in her discussion last week when we took the vote on the five-percent cap and extension of the income tax. We have to keep that money in tow so that we can even begin to pay our bills. Now, without this amendment, khls bill going forward would commkt this State for a two-hundred-and-flfty-million-dollar hit. We just don't have it. We don't know Where it's coming fromz and unless you Wish to commit yourself to a tax increase, that's the only way this is going to fly. I Would ask for a roll call on this bill.
A11 rigbt. Senator Topinka has moved the adoption of 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRTPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 5û0. Those in favor of the amendment will vote Aye. Opposed to the amendment Will vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have al1 voted Who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted Who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the reeord. On that question, there are 18 Ayes, 35 Naysy and the amendment fails. Further amendments?
No further amendments.
3rd Reading . 510. Senator Madigan. Has the fiscal note request been complied with, Madam Secretary? Fiscal note has been - - A11 right. Those have to be filed. A1l right. Fiscal note has been eomplied with. Read the bill, Madam Secretaryy please.
Senate Bill 510. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Floor?
No Floor amendments.
3rd Reading. 520. Senator Macdonald. There has been a request, as you know, for a fiscal note. Okay. 544. Senator Maitland. 551. Senator Luft. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please. Middle of Page Ladies and Gentlemen, on the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 551. Read the bille please.
Senate Bill 551. (Secretary reads eitle of b1ll) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
26 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Any amendments from the Floor?
Senator Luft offers Amendment No. 1.
Senator Luft, on Amendment No. 1.
Thank -- Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 1 clarifies that savings banks have those powers permitted savings banks under the Federal Deposit Insurance Act. We're just making the State 1aW comply with what the federal 1aw already says.
Senator Luft has moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 551. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saylng Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?
Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Luft.
Senator Luft, on Amendment No. 2.
Thank you, Mr. President. This basically does the same thing, only it deals with finance companies. Federal savings and loans now participate in loans with finance companies. We're now allowing the Illinois Savings Bank Act to allow state charters the ability to participate in loans with finance companies. This amendmen: also increases from flve to fifteen percent of *he permissible, marketable investment securities of which a savings bank may invest its capital. It's technical in nature. The securities must be of lnvestment qrade: meanin: they are rated Within the four highest categorles established by a national bond rating. I would move for the adoption of Amendment No.
27 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Senator Luft has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 551. Diseussion? If not, al1 in favor, kndkcate by saying Aye. A11 oppcsed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?
Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Luft.
Senator Luftw on Amendment No. 3.
Thank you, Mr. President. This is another parity amendment with the Pederal Government. It permits a savings bank to convert its charter to a state-chartered savings and loan or to a federally-chartered savings and loan, and prescribes the procedures for such action.
Senator Luft has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 551. Diseussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes bave The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?
No further amendments.
3rd Reading. 586. senator Savickas. 588. Senator Raica. 591. Senator D'Arco. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please. 591, bottom of Page 8.
Senate Bill 591. (Secretary reads title of bil1) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Judiciary I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.
Senator D'Arco, on Committee Amendment No. 28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
Thank you, Mr. President. Committee Amendment No. 1 allows a trustee to receive Rule 12b-1 fees as renumeration Ksic> for services rendered to a mutual fund, and I move the adoption of the committee amendment.
Senator D'Arco has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 591. Discussion? not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?
No further committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Floor?
No Floor amendments.
3rd Reading. 595. Senator Raica. 601. Senator Raica. Read the bill, Madam Secretary: please. The fiscal note has been filed, the Chair is informed. Read the bill, please.
Senate Bill 601. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Public Health, Welfare and Corrections offers Committee Amendment No.
Senator Raica, on Committee Amendment No. 1.
Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. l becomes the bill, and it adds the provision to the EMS Act Which allows for counseling for health care workers who are exposed to the HIV vlrus while on the 29 STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 job. And I ask for favorable adoption.
Senator Raica has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 601. Discussion? Tf not, all in favore indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ages have The amendmentls adopted. Further amendments?
No further committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Ploor?
No Floor amendments.
3rd Reading. 671. Senator Joyce. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.
Senate Bi11 671. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Ploor?
No Floor amendments.
3rd Reading. 673. Senator Collins. 702. Senator Jones. 713. Senator Hawkinson. Wedre at the top of Page Ladies and Gentlemen. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is found Senate Bill 713. Read the bill, please. SECRETARY HAWKER; Senate Bill 713. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
Any amendments from the Floor?
Senator Hawkinson offers Amendment No. 1.
Senator Hawkinson, on Amendment No. 1.
Thank you, Mr. President. Senate Amendment No. strips the bill of its contents, makes it a shell bill for the purpose of trying to reach an agreement betWeen the construction industry and Capital Development Board and the Department of Transportation. Don 't want 1em to go forward on this b1ll with any substantive impact until theydve reached agreement. So I would ask for the adoption of this amendment.
Senator Hawkinson has moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 713. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. AlL opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?
No further amendments.
3rd Reading. 714. Senator de1 Valle. 716. Senator Marovitz. 720. Senator del Valle. 725. Senator Berman. 26. 27. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, middle of Paqe is Senate Bl11 727. Read the blll, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Floor? 31 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMSLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th begislative Day May 20, 1991 SECRETARY HAWKER: No Floor amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: 3rd Reading. 745. Senator Collins. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please. SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Bi1l 745. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. FRESIDENT ROCK: Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKER: No Floor amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: 3rd Readkng. 746. Senator Collins. 750. Senator Joyce. Jerome Joyee. 761. Senator Newhouse. 764. Senator Marovitz. 770. Senator Keats. 776. Senator Jones. Senator Keats? Bottom of Page Ladies and Gentlemen. Senate Bills on 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 770. Read the bill. SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Bill 770. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Exeeutive offers Committee Amendment No. 1. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Keats, on Committee Amendment No. 1. SENATOR KEATS: There is an amendment filed, both the eommittee amendment and the one on the Floor - wefre ignoring both. Wefre going ko ask to move the bill to 3rd# and We right noW have a final draft amendment being circulated that various people are looking at. And if everyone ks satisfied, We will pull it back from 3rd to 32 > ' STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 2nd. So there's no need to amend it. Just to say this bill is going nowhere until there is an agreed amendment. So we'll just save the paper.
Well, guess the question isz is the committee prepared to Table their amendment in the meantime?
0h. If there's any question, let's just move to Table the committee amendment. Don't Table it# then just go ahead and put it on. It simply made the bill nothing but an 800 number. We can leave on.
A11 right. Senator Keats maved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 770. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?
No further eommittee amendments.
Amendments from the Floor?
No Floor amendments.
3rd Reading. 776. Senator Jones. Top of Page 7-8-3. Senator Daley. 789. Senator Cullerton. 800. Read the bill, Madam Secrekary.
Senate Bill 800. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
Amendments from the Floor? 33 STATE OF ILLIYOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
No Floor amendments.
3rd Reading. 804. Senator Smith. 821. Senator Raica. 823. Senator Daley. 830. Senator Berman. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please. We're in the middle of Page l0. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 830.
Senate Bill 830. (Secretary reads title of b11l) 2nd Reading of the bill. Committee on Insuranee, Pensions and Licensed Activities offers Committee Amendment No. 1.
Senator Berman, on Committee Amendment No. 1.
Thank you. Committee Amendment No. l would provide for the exclusion of this condition if there has been a breast biopsy that demonstrates breast cancer. move the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1.
Senator Berman has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 830. Discussion? not, a1l in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?
No furtber commkttee amendments.
Any amendments from the Floor?
No Floor amendments.
3rd Reading. 833. Senator Jacobs. 863. Senator Savickas. 34 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legkslative Day May 20, 1991 865. Senator Philip. Read the billz Madam Secretary, please. Bottom of Page Ladies and Gentlemen, on the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 865. Read the bill, please. SECRETARX HAWKER: Senate Bill 865. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKER: No Floor amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: 3rd Reading. 886. Senator Smith. Top of Page l1. 8-8-9. Senator Holmberg. 893. Senator Ralph Dunn. Senator Dunn, for what purpose do you arise, sir? SENATOR R. DUNN: Mr. President, as principal sponsor of Senate Bill 893, would move to Table the bill. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Dunn has moved to Table Senate Bill 893. A11 in favor of the Motion to Tabler indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have The Motion carries. Senate Bill 893 is Tabled. 894. Senator Schaffer. Fiscal note has been requested. 905. Senator Marovitz. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please. SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Bill 905. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of khe bill. No commlttee amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKER: No Floor amendments. 35 k STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
3rd Reading. 915. Senator Marovitz. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.
Senate Bill 915. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readin: of the bill. No committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Floor?
No Floor amendments.
3rd Reading. 930. Senator Marovitz. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.
Senate Bill 930. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Floor?
Senator Marovitz offers Amendment No. PRESIDENT ROCKI Senator Marovitz, on Amendment No. 1.
Thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of Lhe Senate . The Amendment Would clarify that in an action brought within two years of a ehildts birthz tbe court can require either parent to bear the birth and delivery expenses or both parents in proportionate shares. The amendment also provides guidance to the court in the form of factors to be considered in determining responsibility for the expenses. Those factors include the need 36 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legîslative Day May 20p 1991 of the child and the ability of both parents to pay. And I would ask for adoption of the amendment.
Senator Marovitz has Roved the adoption of Amendment No . to Senate Bill 930. Disaussion? If not, a1l in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?
No further amendments.
3rd Reading. 933. Senator Marovitz. Read the bill: Madam Secretary, please.
Senate Bill 933. (Secretary reads title of b1ll) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Floor?
No Floor amendments.
3rd Readlng. 946. Senator Welch. 946. 948. Skipping again over the appropriation bills, Wedre at the top of Page 12, Ladies and Gentlemen. Top of Page 12. 961. Senator Jerome Joyce. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.
Senate Bill --
Top of Page l2, on the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 961. SECRETARY HAWKERJ Senate Bill 961. 37 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Floor?
No Floor amendments.
3rd Reading. 9-6-5. Senator Leverenz. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.
Senate Bill 965. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKER) No Floor amendments.
3rd Readinq. 976. Senator de1 Valle. 978. 989. Senator Jerome Joyce. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.
Senate Bi11 989. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Floor?
No Floor amendments.
3rd Reading. 993. Senator Dunn. 998. Senator Daley. Read the billy Madam Secreeary, please.
38 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Senate Bill 998. (Secretary reads title of bi11) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Ploor?
Senator Daley offers Amendment No. 1.
Senator Daleyz on Amendment No.
Thank youy Mr. Prestdent and Members of the Senate. Amendment No. l would amend the Liquor Control Act to provide that a petition to prohibik the sale of alcohol at a certain address must be accompanied by court records showing at least three convietions for criminal offenses occurring at or within fifty feet of the premise of that address in the two years preceding the date on which the petition is filed.
Senator Daley has moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 998. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor -- I'm sorry, Senator Rawkinson. SENATOR HAWEINSON; Thank you, Mr. Presldent. Will the sponsor yield for a question?
Sponsor indicates he will yield, Eenator Hawklnson.
Senator, my notes show that the original bill would have required six convictions. Why are you reducinq the number to three?
Senator Daley. 39 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
Basically, Senator, this was done in the House, and this is a problem that has occurred Within the City of Chicago. What we attempted to do Was to answer a problem that -- Judge Aspen had -- declared the previous bill unconstitutional, and this is tryin: to answer some of those concerns. We --
Senator Hawkinson.
Can al1 three of those convictions occur in the same incident, or the same evening?
Senator Daleg.
is not specified, Senatork
Senator Hawkinson.
I guess I don't understand why your original figure of six convictions isn't a more reasonable figure.
Al1 right. Senator Daley has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 9-9-8. Purther diseussion? If not, a1l in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?
No further amendments.
3rd Reading. 1002. Senator Carroll. 1038. Senator Smith. 1051. Senator Cullerton. 1067. Senator Rea. Senator Rea, there's been a request for a fiscal note on that bill. 1091. Senator Jacobs. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please. 40 ! I STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION ; SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20y 1991 SECRETARY HAWKER : Senate Bill 1091. (Secretary reads tltle of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 1 offered by Senator Jacobs. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Jacobs, on Amendment No. 1. SENATOR JACOBS: Thank youz Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This amendment is purely technical. It brings -- it actually becomes the bill and it brinqs the current amendment in so it tracks with the Iowa bill, as required by the Interstate Compact. PRESIDENT ROCX: Senator Jaeobs has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 1091. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER; No further amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: 3rd Reading. 1092. Senator D'Arco. 1104. Senator Karpiel. 1133. Senator Raica. There's been a request for a fiscal note that's just been filed. 1134. Top of Page 13. 1144. Senator Maitland. 1150. Senator Cullerton. 1167. Senator Fawell. Top of Page 13. 1212. Senator Raica. 1218. Senator Carroll. Read the bill, Madam Secretaryy please. 1-2-1-8. Middle of Page 13, Ladies and Gentlemen. 1-2-1-8. SECRETARY HAWKER : Senate Bill 1218. 41 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20y 1991 (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No commlttee amendments.
Any amendments from the Floor?
No Floor amendments.
3rd Reading. 1220. Senator Severns. 1231. Senator Marovitz. We're in the middle of Page 13. 1235. Senator Jacobs. 1239. Senator Philip . Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.
Senate Bill 1239. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Floor?
No Floor amendments.
3rd Reading. 1242 has been Tabled, Ladies and Gentlemen. 1243. Senator Weaver. Read the bill: Madam Secretary, please.
Senate Bill 1243. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Floor?
No Floor amendments.
3rd Reading. 1270. Senator Barkhausen. Read the billz please. 42 STATE 0P ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
Senate Bill 1270. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Floor?
No Floor amendments.
3rd Reading. 1272. Senator Barkhausen. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.
Senate Bill 1272. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Floor?
No Floor amendments.
3rd Reading . Top of Page l4, Ladies and Gentlemen. The top of Page 14. 14. 1274. Senator Watson. Top of Page 1282. Senator Phillp . 1284. Senator Geo-Karis. 1285. Senator Watson. 1291. Senator Hawkinson. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.
fenaEe Bl1l 1291. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
Any amendments from the Floor?
Senator Hawkinson offers Amendment No. 43 STATEOF ILLINOIS 1 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
Senator Hawkinson, on Amendment No. 1.
Thank you, Mr. President. The original bill deals With situations when a police officer may go before a judge to have the warrant executed without knockinq. This amendment simply protects existin: exemptions in the laW Which would occur if a policemands at the door and there's a fire in the premises or he hears gunshots or the like, and simply says that nothing in the bill would affect existing judicial decisions. And I would ask for its adoption.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hawkinson has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 1291. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Further amendments?
No further amendments. PRES' IDING OFFTCER: (SENATOR DEMUZTO) 3rd Reading. 1295. Senator Philip. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1295, Madam Secretary. Would you read the bill, please?
Senate Bill 1295. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readinq of the bill. No committee amendments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?
Senator Welch offers Amendment No. 1.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch. 44 1 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
Thank you, Mr. President. What this amendment does is amend Senator Philip's bill to add aluminum, steel and bimetal cans and corrugated cardboard to the materials that must be separated for collections. This would enable a city to offset the cost of a collection program because the markets for these products brings the higher price of any recycled produet. I would move foz adoption of Ploor Amendment No. 1.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch has moved the adoption of Amendment No. Is there discussion? Senator Philip.
Yes, I don't have any problem With that amendment. It's a11 rïght wïth me.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A1l right. Senator Weleh has moved the adoption of Amendment No . 1. Purther discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have Amendment No . is adopked. Further amendments?
Amendment No. offered by Senator Welch.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch.
Thank you, Mr. President. What hmendment No. Would do is amend the Solid Waste Plannin: and Recycling Act that each county is to come up with. It amends that by adding source reduction and variable waste disposal fees as components of a county waste management plan. The plan to implement souree reduction must be included in a county plan. The reason for this is that if counties are planning how to dispose of their garbage, I think they should be encouraged to reduce before it begins being 45 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20y 1991 producede by encouraging businesses in their area to reduce the amount that are produced. The source of pollution would, thereforey be reduced. There would be less garbage going to a landfill. The second part of the amendment varlable waste disposal fees - requires counties to evaluate the feasibility of disposal fees that encourage waste generators to participate in source reduction and recyclings. The fees may include variable rates on bags: on garbage cans or other types of variabilities. All of us have had the situation where -- where you have a city that charges everybody the same amount to throw away your garbage, but yet those down the street always seem to have about ten garbage bags out on the curb. What this says is, those who produce more garbage and fill up the landfill faster probably aren't doing any recycling or watching source reduction or other methods to decrease the amount of garbage going to landfill. Al1 this say is to the counties to look at the possibility of including a variable rate structure such as a per-bag charge in their waste management plan. would move for adoption of Ploor Amendment No. 2.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A11 riqht. Senator Welch has moved the adoption of Amendment No. Is there discussion? Discussion? If not, those in favor Will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 2 is adopted. Further amendments?
Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Welcb.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch.
I would withdraw Amendment No. 3, Mr. President.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A1l right. Senator Welch seeks leave to withdraw Amendment 46 STATE OF ILLINOTS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29:: Legislative Day May 20, 1991 No. 3. Amendment No. 3 is withdrawns Further amendments? l
No further amendments.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 1303. Senator Ralph Dunn. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readinq is Senate Bill -- 1fm sorry, 1303, Madam Secretary. Read the billz please. 1 I 1 SECRETARY HAWKER: I I ! Senate Bill 1303. (Seeretary reads tltle of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER 1 : (SENATOR DEMDZIO) J 1 Anyamendmentsfrom the Ploor? 1 1 SECRETARY HAWKER: 1 1 No Floor amendments I . 1 PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) I 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1315. Senator Philip. 1315? 1317. 1 I Senator Weaver. 0n the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is l I 1 Senate Bill 1317, Madam Secretary. I 1 SECRETARY HAWKER: ! 4 ! Senate Bill 1317. ! ! I (Seeretary reads title of bill) ! I 2nd Reading of the blll. No eommittee amendments. ' . ! PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) ' I I Any amendments from the Ploor? I I SECRETARY HAWKER: ' I 1 Senator Carroll offers Amendment No. 1. 1 I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 1 l I Senator Carroll on the Floor? Senator Weaver, Senator Carroll ! ! apparently has filed an amendment. Re's not on the Floor. Do ke I I I have -- A1l right, do We have leave to take ie out of the record? I I We can cone back to it. l right. Take it out l Senator Weaver. Al 1 I 47 I STATE o: ILLINOIS i 87:: cExskaL AsseMasv 1 ascurAa sssszox sexaTs TRaxscRzpT 29th Legislakive Day May 20, 1991 of the record. 1321. Senator Severns. 1328. Senator Luft. 1330. Senator Welch. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1-3-3-0: Madam Secretary: please. SECRETARY HAWKER : senate Bi11 1330. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKER: Senator Welch offers Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OPFTCER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH: Thank you, Mr. President. I Was requested in the Committee by the Minority Spokesman and the Chairman to add Uhis amendment. The original bill requires a father's social security number to be recorded on a birth certificate. The amendment says a mother's social security number must also be recorded on the birth cêrtificate. The purpose is to track down a nonpaying spouse for purposes of collectinq child support. I would ask -- move for adoption of Floor Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Al1 right. Senator Welch has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1330. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. Tbe Ayes have ik. Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: No further amendments. PRSSIDING OFFTCER: (SENATOR DEMUZTO) 3rd Reading. 1331. Senator Smith. 1337. Senator Collins. On *he Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readin: is Senate Bill 1337, Madam 48 N STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20e 1991 Secretary, please. SECRETANY HAWEER; Senate Bill 1337. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Senaeor Colllns. SENATOR COLLINS: Yes, thank youy Mr. -- Committee Amendment. Amendment No . 1 raises the limit from seventy-five percent to -- seventy-five cents to one dollar per minute and also from one dollar to five dollars per minute for a charge before ehe service message disclosure statement ls required. It replaces the criminal penalties with a Class A Misdemeanor, and it makes some clarifying language changes . And I Would move for its adoption. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Collins has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 1337. Discussion? If note those in favor will i l indicate by sayin: Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. l j i Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Further amendments? I I I SECRETARY HAWKER: i J Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Collins. ! I PRESIDTNG OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) J I I Senator collins. I I SSXAPOR COLLIKSI 5 . 1 Yes, the Amendment No. 2 elarifies the intent that the E Attorney General's Offtce is the -- enforcement agency, and I E would move for its adoption. PRESTDING OFFICER) (SENATOR DEMUZIO) ! i Senator Collins has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2. Is ! g' there discussion? If not: those in favor Will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 2 is 49 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 adopeed. Further amendments?
Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Collins.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Collins.
There 's only two amendments, so I don't -- that I know af.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Well, Senator Collins, we have three on file. You --
No further amendments.
Thank you.
PRESIDIXG QFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) No further aKendments. 3rd Reading. 1338. Senator Collins. On the Order of Senate Bills -- On the Order of Bottom of Page 14 is Senate Bill 1347, Madam Seeretary. Read the bill.
Senate Bill 1347. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readin: of the bill. No eommittee amendments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?
No Floor amendments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Top of Page l5. 1349. Fiscal note. 1352. Senator Holmberg. 1354. Senator Holmberg. 1361. Senator Joyce. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1-3-6-1, Madam Secretary. Read the bill.
Senate Bill 1361. 50 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Leqislative Day May 20, 1991 (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Agriculture and Conservation offers Pommlttee Amendment No. 1.
PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Joyce.
Thank you, Mr. President. I move to Table Committee Amendment No.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. Senator Joyce has moved to Table Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 1361. Those in favor Will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. l is Tabled. Further committee amendments?
No further committee amendments.
PRESIDINC OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Ploor?
Senator Jerome Joyce offers Amendment No. 2.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senakor Jerome Joyce.
Thank you, Mr. President. This amendment deletes everything in the bill and sets yearly requirements of the amount of ethanol to be eontained on the averaqe in qas sold by distributors in Illlnois. Beginning in 1992 - January, 1992 - twenty-five percent of the gasoline sold must contaln ethanol. The yearly requirements phase in the percentage of ethanol gradually till the year 2002, when all gasoline sold in the State must contain ethanol. I'd be happy to answer any questions.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Joyce has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2. Is 51 1 1 STATE OF ILLTNOIS ! 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY I REGULAR SESSION 1 SENATE TRANSCRIPT ' I l 29*b Legislative Day May 20, 1991 ehere discussion? If not: those in favor will indicate by sayin: Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have Amendment No. is adopted. Further amendments?
Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Severns.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Severns.
Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. This amendment simply creates a Commission on Alternative Motor Fuels to determine the amount of ethanol that can be expected to be produeed in the U.S. on a yearly basis, and to alter the percentage requirements if necessary. I Would urge its adoption.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATQR DEMUZIO) Senator Severns has moved the adoption of Amendment No. Is there discussion? Senator Woodyard.
Thank you, Mr. President: Members of the Senate. Question of the sponsor, please.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Indicates she Will yield. Senator Woodyard.
Senator Severns, I think this language might have been in the original bill that you introduced. What are the powers of this particular Commission that is being created, and where is it being created?
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Severns.
Thank you. Senator Woodyardy theydre strictly advisory. To make certain -- this actually came -- this language came from the Illinois Corn Growers' Association. was, in fact, a part of 52 l STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 the original bill that I had, but rather than have so many bills out there, we decided to roll this segment of the bill into Senator Joyce's billy with his permission. PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senatar Woodyard.
Well, is this created in the Department of Agriculture or Energy and Natural Resources, or is it a separate Commission? Is chaired by Treasurer Qulnn, or is it just totally separate?
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Severns.
Thank you, Senator Woodyard. It is outside of the Department of Agriculture, with the components being -- excuse me. Excuse me .
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZTO) All right. While we have a lu1l -- excuse me. Senator Severns.
The Director of ENR: EPA: DOA, the State Treasurer, and two publlc members appointed by the Governor.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Woodyard.
Well, but has no mandatory powers, only advisory, and it's supposed to -- Ilm no* sure 1 know what the purpose of it is, but I'm -- if it's not mandatory, I don't have a big problem with it, but I'm not so sure I want a Commission chaired by -- not chalred by, but with Treasurer Quinn on it, actually dictating usaqe and percentile and formulas on ethanol fuel. And I don'k think thatls your intent.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 53 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY RECULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Senator Severns.
ENR is the lead agency, with DOA obviously having terrific input. It's just one member and, in fact, eontrary to the information I was just given and provided to you, is not advisory.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A11 right. Further diseussion? Senator Severns has moved the adoptlon of Amendment No. 3. Those in favcr will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 3 is adopted. Further amendments?
No further amendments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senator Topinka, for what purpose do you arise?
Yes, Mr. President, a point of personal privilege. I'd like to call your attention to our baek galleries, where we have ninety-four members today of 'tbe Ameriean Aid Society of German Descendants, who were kind enough to put on a Wonderful show down in the rotunda today of folk singing and folk dancing with youngsters of varying ages. They hail from all over northern Illinois. Their clubhouse is in Senator Dudyczîs district. And if we could give them all a big Sprinqfield welcome here to the Senate.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Wî1l our guests in the qallery please rise? Welcome. Welcome to Springfield. 1363. Senator Joyce. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1-3-6-3, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 1363. (Secretary reads title of bill) 54 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?
No Floor amendments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1364. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1364, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 1364. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Ploor?
No Floor amendments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 1365. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading: Senate Bill 1365, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 1365. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from tbe Floor?
No Floor amendments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1390. Senator Barkhausen. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readinq is Senate Bill 1390, Madam Secretary.
55 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GEKERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Senate Bill 1390. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMOZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?
Excuse me. The Committee on Judiciary 11 offers Committee Amendment No.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. Senator Barkhausen, on Committee Amendment No. And, Molly -- Excuse mez Senator. WCIA has sought leave to videotape. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order -- Committee Amendment No. 1, Senator Barkhausen.
Mr. President and Members, Committee Amendment No. 1 is the bill. This deals wieh the extension of nonconsensual wiretaps to a range of serious felony offenses. It has a certain sunset date, which will be considerably shortened by the amendment to follow . And I ask for its adoption.
PRESTDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Barkhausen has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 1390. Is there discussion? Senator Marovitz.
I just haven't seen the amendment. Could you just tell me what the amendment does?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Could ke have some orderr please? Senator Reats, I eannot see the Gentleman behind you. Senator Barkhausen.
The committee amendment, Senator Marovitz, the bill deals with wiretaps, which I know you o#pose - but the committee 56 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Leqislative Day May 20# 1991 amendment had a sunset clause that we agreed to shorten and the shortening of the sunset comes in the following Ploor amendment.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Marovitz.
I know that. What is this amendment?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Barkhausen.
The amendment itself rewrote the bill, but itls basically the same bill ehat was in committee, but it bad a 1995 sunset date on PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Barkhausen has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. Those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. is adopted. Further commlttee amendments?
No further committee amendments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?
Senator Barkhausen offers Amendmenk No. 2.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZTO) Senator Barkhausen.
Mr. President and Members. This amendment implements -- would implement a September 2nd, 1993, sunset date. And I urge its adoption.
PRESTDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Barkhausen has moved the adoption of Amendment No . 2. Discussion? Senator Marovitz. STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
Is that the -- effectively the eighteen-month sunset that we agreed to in committee?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Barkhausen.
It's -- actually, Senatorz it's two months longer: because eighteen months would bring us from -- to July 1. So by takin: it to early September, we would give the Governor a chance to sign into law an extension of the sunset date.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Barkhausen has moved the adoption of Amendment No. Those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay . The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 2 is adopked. Furkher amendments?
No further amendments.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 1392.. Senator Welch. 1393. Senator Marovitz. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1393, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bi11 1393. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the blll. No committee amendments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?
No Floor amendments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 1403. Senator Joyce. 1409. Senator Berman. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, bottom of Page 15, is 58 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20w 1991 ! I senate Bill 1-4-0-9, Madam Secretary. 1 SECRETARY HAWKER: I Senate Bi11 1409. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?
Senator Berman offers Amendment No. 1.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Berman.
Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. l is a technical amendment offered by the Legislatlve Reference Bureau. I move its adoption.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Berman has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1409. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposedz Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. l is adopted. Furtber amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: ' No further amendments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 1424. Senator Raiea. 1434. 1435. Senator Marovitz. Page l6. 1437. Senator Welch. Senator Welche 1437? 1438. Senator Welch. On tbe Order of Senate Bllls 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1-4-3-8, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 1438. , (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Energy and Environment offers Committee Amendment No. 1. 1 59 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch.
Thank you, Mr. President. What this says - the amendment says - is that the Department of Public Health will defray the cost of annual medical checkups for anyone Wh9 worked on a Superfund site. We've been cleaning up Superfund sites in Illinois and cleaned up the land, but not the individuals, or helped them, and that's what this amendment is attemptin: to do. I would move adoption of Amendment No. 1.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1438. Is there discussion? Senator Collins.
Point of personal privileqe. In the gallery behind me we have visiting with us today the Webster School, and I would just like to have them to stand and be recognized by the Senate.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. If our guests in the gallery eould please rise. Welcome to Springfield. Senator Welch has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No . 1. Further discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. is adopted. Purther committee amendments?
No further commlttee amendments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?
No Floor amendments.
PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 1440. 1454. Senator Luft. 1459. Senator 60 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Marovitz. 1460. -- 1460. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1-4-6-0, Madam Secretary, please.
Senate Bill 1460. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?
No Floor amendments.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Readinq. 1461. 62. 65. 1472. Senator Smith. 1473. Senator Severns. Al1 riqht. Wefve effeckively gone through the list of 2nd Readings. We are now going to proceed to the Order of 3rd Reading on Page 16. Senator Roek? Page 16? A1l Eight. Senator Weaver, for what purpose do you arise?
I just Wonderedr Mr. President, on 1317, Whether Senator Carroll wanted to Withdraw the amendment or -- You said ke would ge* back to it. That's my only question.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A11 right. Leave was granted to get baek to it. On the Order -- I'm sorry. Senator Carroll, for what purpose do you arise? Senator Carroll.
Just to ask Senator Weaver if he could hold tha: bill. Welre still waiting for staff to get down on it.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Hold on just a moment. Senator -- if we eould bave some order and please take the staff conferences off the Floor. We 're attemptin: to have a discussion among the Members and wedre going right straight to 3rd Reading after this. Senator Carroll, you 61 l I I STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 l Want to repeat your question, please? j SENATOR CARROLL) Just ask Senator Weaver if he would mind holding it eill tomorrow. We haven't -- staff has not had a chance to get back to me on it. Thank you. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. The Gentleman indicates yes. A11 right. 3rd Reading. We're on Page 16, on the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 1. Senator Rock. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 1, Madam Secretary. Read the bill. END OF TAPE TAPE 2 SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Bill 1. (secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rock. . SENATOR ROCR: Thank you: Mr. President: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I dare say there is no one in this Chamber, and I think probably no one in this State, who doesn't reeognize the fact that eleckions across the country - and particularly here in Illinois - are too long and they cost too much. And while we are seeing the lengthening of campaigns and campaign rhetorlc and campaiqn financing, we are witnessing, unfortunately, almosk an inevitable consequence' and that is voter apathy. People are sick and tired 62 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 I of elections. And so what Senate Bill 1 addresses is, how do we change that? And Senate Bill 1 says for the 1994 election, let's change the primary date. By virtue of our Constitutional Convention, we took our Illinois constitutional officers off of the presidential election schedule. And so, in recognition of that fact, that it is an Illinois election' the 1994 primary would be held in September instead of March. Nowe I know that there are others who have proposed other dates. I thlnk We ought to: as a Body, make a statement in recognition of the fact that campaigns are too long and too costly. I call this ''Give the people a break'' bill: and I Would ask for your affirmative support. Por the 1994 election, the primary would be held in September and the general election in November. And for those who say there 's not time enough, 1et me recall two thinqsk one, Senate Bill 1000 passed out of bere last Session with a pretty healthy vote; and two, if you look at the mayoral election in Chicago, khe time sehedule is substantially less than the statewide election. And that's probably as important a political office, a governmenkal offiee, in the Skate of Illinois as is the Comptroller and the Treasurer and the others we're dealing with. I would ask for an affirmative vote on Senate Bill 1. I PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) I A11right. Diseussion? SenatorPhilip. 1 SENATORPHILIP: 1 Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Centlemen of the Senate. Senator Rock has finally beaten me up and twisted my arm. I'm coming around, believe it or not, to his way of thinking. I certainly would agree, I'm sick and tired of these long, drawn-out primaries, spending too much money, and I understand this is only 1 goin: to be for one primary. If it doesn't work, we can come back I I and change it. I think it's a qood idea, and I'd ask leave to be l I a hyphenated co-sponsor 1 . ! 63 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20# 1991
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) I don't know. It looks -- sounds No to me. All right. Senator Philip has sought leave to be added as a hyphenated co-sponsor. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. Purther discussion? Senator -- well, we have -- Senator Schaffer. You wish to be added tooz Senator? Senator Schaffer.
Mr. President, it is with fear and trepidation that rise to oppose b0th the President of the Senate and the Minority Leader on this blll. I still have some problems with this. still have some problems with hok it would be implemented. And I'm not sure that the billr as currently drafted, solves a1l those problems for elections, ehallenges, filin: dates, a1l the myriad of things that have to come to make a sm00th election. ean see that believe those things can be resolved. Obviously, other states have September primaries. My major concern, quite frankly, is that this kould cause the campaigns for the primaries to be run in August and July; and, frankly, that's a time when most people are not particularly interested in What those of us in elected office are doing. The kids are out of school) they're on vacation. And I think it Will minimize participation. Perhaps that's to an incumbent's advantage and maybe that's a reason to vote for the bill. I would respectfully submit that the vast majority - ninety. ninety-five percent of the money spent on political campaigns overall is spent in the final tWo weeks. Regardless of when you have the prlmary, it's *he final monEh that you buy the TV: that you do the direct malls. The exeended period of time doesn't that dramatically impact on the cost. I still have problems with it. would love to see our March primary moved into May, but I think that to have the eampaign the summere when everyone else is out thinking about Great America and the Dells and summer vacations: is not somekhing that will promote 64 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 democracy.
PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Woodyard, for what purpose do you arise?
Thank you, Mr. Prestdent and Members of the Senate. On a point of personal privilege, please.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) State your point.
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, we have with us today, in the gallery to the rearz Lake Crest School from Oakland, Illinois, With Donna Richardson and Mr. Bales as chaperones, and these kids paid their own Way to come over here and raised their own money to come over here to visit us in Springfield.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Welcome. Will our guests in the gallery please rise? Welcome. Purther discussion? Senator Geo-Karis.
Mr. President and Ladles and Gentlemen of the Senate, I respectfully disagree with Senator Schaffer. If people are going to be interested in elections, they're going to be interested Whether it's June: July, August and what have you. The rhetorle has absolutely been nauseous that so many people that goes on from March throuqh September, and I -- through November. And 1'11 tell you right now, am certainly in favor of Senator Rock's bill, and I'd like to be added on as a hyphenated eo-sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) You've heard the request. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. Add Senator Geo-Karis. Senator Welch.
Thank you, Mr. President. would like to address what Senator Schaffer said. Senator Schaffer said that campaigns 65 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 really don't start up with advertising until the last month, and that -- Senator, maybe in your race that's true. In my race, the last two races we started advertising eiqht times a day, beqinning in the middle of August and every week after that. We were sending out mailings beginninq in August. So, to say that -- to use your race as an example, really your race isnlt the one wedre looking at for need to chanqe the primary. It's races where you have tarqeted candidates that so much money is poured in that the primary would help. Hopefully it would reduce the amount of money being spent and reduce the time period for all those great advertisements to go out through the mail. So I would support the legislation.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Macdonald.
Thank you, Mr. President. T rise in strong support of Senate Bill 1. There is a precedent that has already proven to be very helpful and that was at the time that the Constitutional Convention delegates ran for election. That primary was in September and the election was in November, and it Was indeed very successful. And, although there Were those Who had announced their plans to run and had an opportunity over the summer to informally talk with various people, the actual dates were very helpful, and I think ik would be a great benefit to the candidates and the people of the State of Illinois We went to a September primary.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Al1 riqht. Further discussion? Senator Barkhausen.
Mr. President, I support this billz but I have a ques*ion of *he sponsor. PRESIDING OFFTCERJ (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 66 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Indicates he will yield. Senator Barkhausen.
Senator Rock, I think youfve been on to something here for some time and, as you mentioned, Wedve passed this before. What fear may -- may lead to a certain amount of public cynicism - almost perhaps as much as our overly long campaign season is that -- is that despite your obvious sincerity and our activity on this front in past Sessions and again this Session -- you know, we keep talking about doing something here but somehow we never come together with our friends in the House. Are the prospects for that happening tbis year any better than they dve been any other year?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Senator Rock.
Better than in the past, yes. Whetber it will ultimabely be successful remains to be seen: but I can say, without contradiction: better than ln ehe past.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further -- Senator Barkhausen.
What -- What obstaeles do you keep runninq into over there? mean, they have their own preference for some alternative date, or do they like our March primary?
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Senator Rock.
Well, I think it's fair to say that some are of the opinion, having been successfully elected and reelected: it ainft broke: why fix it; they like it the Way it Don't change anything, or otherwise I may have to change my way of doing things. And you'll recall, a 1ot of the rhetoric last Session: when we passed Senate 67 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 I Bill 1000 - tbat Was prior to a gubernatorial campaign - there Was some confusion as to where the gubernatorial candidates from both parties stood . There was some indication - because it happened early enough - there was some indication at least expressed publicly, that I kas somehow interested in the passage of that I I I bill to influence and help reelect Jim Thompson to the Office of Governor, as it being a proponent or a pro-incumbent bill. And on theotherhand,myfriend,SenatorPhilip,accusedmeofa1lkinds of things. So there was a llttle bik of political ambivalence out 1 1 I ehere. What I'm saying to you is that I think now webve just been through another statewide eampaign, and I think everybody recognizes they are too long and they cost too mueh money, and we are literally wearinq people out. Apd it seems to me that we are I I b 1 etter advised to concentrate our effort on increased voter I I participation. One of the ways youdre going to do that is to cut I I down the amount of time between the primary and the general. And 1 1 so, I think the bill speaks for itself. Further discussion? I I Senator Dudycz.
Thank you, Mr. President. As the Republican Spokesman on the Elections Committee, I note that Senator Schaffer has brought some I I valid points regardinq a September primary, specifically when ! I you're dealing with party matters, such as the selection of State I I party chairmen: the nomination of candidates for University of l 1 Illinois trustees, and the adoption of party platforms. But these I I problems are not insurmountable, and they can be Worked Out I I between now and then. We all aqree that the election cycke is too 1 j longy and I think the time has come for us to shorten it. And I I I I think we al1 should vote Aye on this. I I PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) I I All riqht. Further discussion? Senator Schuneman. I SENATORSCHUNZMAN: 1 I I 68 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20: 1991 Thank you, Mr. President. A question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Indicates he will yield. Senator Schuneman. SENATOR SCHUNEMAN; Senator Rock, I support What youlre doing here, but I notice that 1994 is not a presidential year. What is your solution as to how to deal with the presidential primary if -- if we should stay with this system?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rock.
Well, my solution for a presidential primary is something that I'm no* sure would meet with great favor around here. would choose or would suggest ehoosing delegates to the National Nominating Convention by party caueus and do away With the presidential beauty eontest.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Further discussion? If not, Senator Rockg do you wish to close? Senator Rock.
Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senate Bill lt seems to me, is something that we can a1l support. I will grant to Senator Schaffer and to others that the election authorities and the eounty elerks are not unanimous on this. It does, in fact, shorten the period of time within which they have to react to petition filingy and challenges, and objections and so forth. Those problems are in no way insurmountable. Eighteen other states have this kind of -- this -- this September date. Others are movlng. We aree think' one of tWo that has a primary in March and the only people that are a little goofier khan we are Iowa and NeW Hampshire in the early stages of the presidential. I just think we have asked of ehe 69 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 people too much for too long. Let's give the people a break and vote Aye on Senate Bill
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Question is, shall Senate Bill l pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposede Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Senator Geo-Earis. Have al1 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 52y the Nays are 4, voting Present. Senate Bill havins reeeived the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. l3. Senator Thomas Dunn. Severns. 25. 39. Senator Tom Dunn. Page 17. 57. Senator Rea. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading, top of Page is Senate Bill 57. Madam Secretary, please.
Senate Bill 57. (secretary reads tikle of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rea.
Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Senate Bill 57 amends the Coal Technology Development Assistance Act, and comes at a time that certainly is very needed with the clean air legislation that has been enacted at the federal level. And What this does, it -- it's based upon the utility tax, changes the one sixty-fourth to one thirty-second, put a cap on over the next three years, which is very critical to us in saving jobs and being able ko utilize Illinois coal in a clean fashion. I Would ask for your support. PRESIDENT R0CX: Al1 right. The Gentleman has moved the passage of Senate Bill 57. Discussion? Senator Maedonald. 70 STATE 0F ILLINOTS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
Thank you, Mr. President. Question of the sponsor. PRESTDENT ROCE; Sponsor indicates he Will yield. Senator Macdonald.
Yes, Senator Rea, why are you giving tax credits to Illinois Power?
Senator Rea.
Welt, actually, this is not just for Illinois Power. It's for other ueility companiese others than burn hiqh sulfur coal. And it's in terms of using the new technology: whether ie may be scrubbers or some other technology, and khat's where they get the tax credit. And this has been something that has been in operation for a good while here in the State of Illinois.
Further discussion? Senator Fawell.
Would the sponsor yield for a question? PRESIDENT ROCKJ Sponsor indicates he will yield, Senator Fawell.
Are you saying *1th this bill tbat if -- if someone if an electric company uses coal, that they Will get a tax credit for serubbers, installlng scrubbers and What have you? And the maintenance and all this other good stuff that they do down in Southern Illinois and *e don't do up in Northern Illinois?
Senator Rea.
They could if they use scrubbers. STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
Senator Pawekl.
Well, so in other words, aetually what you 're doing is you're giving a tax break to the -- to the power companies down in Southern Illinois, and those of us in Northern Illinois are goin: to end up having to pay two million dollars into the GRF because of this tax credit. And we're not those of us that have nuclear plants really don't benefit from this at all, do we?
Senator Rea.
This actually, thls has been in effect for several years, and actually, without the credit and bein: able to convert and use the clean technology, then it could cost the consumers much more than What it Will under this plan. So a11 we're doing is extending it - that's all.
Further discussion? Senator Watson.
Yes, thank you, Mr. President. rise in support of Senator Rea in his efforts here. Some concern about the impact that this might have on the General Revenue Fund - two million dollars. Let me just tell you what this may do, in faet, if we put six thousand coal miners in this State out of -- out of work. What Senator Rea is trying to do is provide an incentlve for some of the people in thls that utilize Illinois coal to continue to use it. And I think that's something that we should supportz because we do have some six thousand coal miners in our partieular area of the State that are going to be impacted if, in fact, the Clean Air Act has the devastating effect we think it may have on the coal industry here in Illinois. So I applaud Senator Rear and certainly support 72 STATE 0F TLLTNOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29:h Legislative Day May 20, 1991 his effort.
Further discussion? Senator Etheredge.
Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. As the preceding speaker just noted, and I want to underscore, is that this is a two-million-dollar hit on the General Revenue Fund. That is the amount of revenue that would be lost to the GRF With the passage of this bill.
Further discussion? Senator Donahue.
Thank you, Mr. President. also rise in support of this legislation, and since welre talking about our preceding speakers, to go back to what Senator Etheredge said and to Senator Watsony yes, it is a two-million-dollar hit, but I think the cost to General Revenue Without the development of these coal research monies would be a great deal more than two million dollars. And I rise in support.
Further discussion? Further discussion? If not, Senator Rea may close.
Thank youz Mr. President. Without this legislation, we could lose many jobs and could lose millions of dollars here in the Stake of Illinois. I would ask for the adopklon. PRESIDENT ROCKZ Question is, shall Senate Bill 57 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 40 Ayes, 15 Naysz none voting Present. Senate STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Bill 57, having received the required constitutional majority, ks declared passed. 58. Senator Rea. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.
Senate Bill 58. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
Senator Rea.
Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Senate Bill 58 provides, as many of you know, due to legislation earlier and at the federal and State level, that juvenile detention personnel cannot be housed in the adult centers. They've got to be separated. What this does, it provides a fund, the County Juvenile Detention Center Revolving Loan Fund, Which then would allow a county to finance up to a hundred percent of the total cost of conseructing a facility. Many parts of this Statee I think, the juvenile problem has increased and become intensified; and, as a result, I have had to travel a great distance just to take these kids to a facility. The cost has been prohibitive. And of course, many times, due to the cost and the manpower that's required, they are turned loose and back on the streets in a short period of time. This would help alleviate that problem . Al1 it does is set up the Fund for that type of funding, and the monies are not there now, but puts in place so Ehak if the money should come later on that we would have a mechanism there for -- to move with it. So I Would move ask for your support on this bill.
Discussion? Senator Fawell.
STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1992 Thank you very much. I'm the Minority Spokesman on Local Government and this bill came through that Committee. And it was pointed out tbat there are no funds in this Pund. And the anticipation is that there aren't going to be any funds because of the problems that we have in the State right now. What this bill does is it says that juvenile centers will be financed a hundred percent by the State for the county juvenile detention centers. Now -- right now, there's no money, and I suppose we can just go ahead and pass this bill and pray that no money gets in that Fund. But the day may eome when We may regret this, beeause this could be a terribly expensive bill in the future. To fund the juvenile centers with State funds from grants and loans and State appropriations and bonds, I think, is the wrong way to go. We don't finance county jails, and we shouldn't start financing juvenile detention centers. That is a county prerogative. There are other ways of doing it. They can join together - different counties and set up a detention home, and I think thatls the way they should qo.
Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Senator Jacobs.
Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I stand in strong support of this legislation. In regards to Senator Fawell's comment about the day may come when we may regret this leqislation I think that lf we don'E pass this bill, Wedre going to be re:rettin: it in the future, without a doubt, becausey to me, if we don't fund these juvenile centers -- detention centers, we're going to be throwing these people in with hardened eriminalse whether we believe it or not. And I think that's going to add to the problem rather than decrease the problem. think it's a cost-saving measure. h 87S tT hAT GENO EF RAL ILL AI SN SO EI MS REGDLAR SZSSION BLY SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20z 1991 PRESIDENT ROCK: ' ! Further discussion? Senator Schuneman. j i SENATOR SCHUNEMAN: II Thank you, Mr. President. Question of the sponsor. PRESIDENT ROCK: Sponsor indicakes he will yield. Senator Schuneman. SENATOR SCHUNEMAN: Senator, what good is the bill without any money? PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Rea. SENATOR REA: This puts it lneo position of permissive funding, up to a hundred percent, but the reason for it is that many of the judges came to me and 1aw enforcement officials, and they felk very strongly thak if we had the mechanism here, then over the next year we can work on Ways and means that We might be able to eome up with the funding for it. But this would help establish this as a priority in our minds, as well as in theirs. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Schuneman. SENATOR SCHUNEMAN : I Well, I don't Object to settino up prioriuies, and I don't l I I I know that this is a bad idea - just that: at this particular kime, I 1 1 to do it When there's no money therey seems to raise false hopes. I I I And it seems to me We ouqht to Wait until we know hoW itfs going I tO be funded before WP adoib ihis bill. l j I PRESIDENT ROCK: j i Further discussion? Senator Rea, you wish to close? I sEuhtoR RsA: 1 1 J , i. I ust in closing, we re not asking for any appropriat on l whatsoever. If we were asking for the appropriationy one of the things that you would be saying, 'Wel1, where is khe I I 7G STATE OF TLLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 autborization?'' This Would provide the authorization and then the next step would be as we go along to be looking towards the funding. I would ask for your Aye vote.
Question is, sball Senate Bill 58 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted kho wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 32 Ayes, 25 Nays, none voting Present. Senate Bill 58: having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. 66. Senator Woodyard. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, for a third time.
Senate Bill 66. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Woodyard.
Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Senate Bill 66 would exempt from permitting the requirements that Would be involved with that of the qarbage trucks or the haulers that pick up Waste from a qenerator and don't go directly to a landfill, but rather go to a recycling eenter first, and then reload the truck going to a landfill. Tt simply exempts that very narrow area of consideration on those people who would have to be permleted, and this would prevent them having to be and having to establish the tariffs which cannot be established anyway. It certainly is supported by the Illinois Commerce Commission, and the language was Worked out With them and the Solid Waste Association.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) 77 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Senator Welch.
I have a question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Proceed. Senator Welch.
Senator Woodyard, could you clarify the definition of waste in the bill? We want to make sure that it does not include nuclear waste, either high-level or low-level. Ts that the intent of your bill, not to include nuclear waste?
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Woodyard.
Certainly there is no intent in the blll that would deal with any waste like that at all.
PRESTDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Is there any further discussion? Senator Woodyard may close. The question is, shall Senate Bill 66 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted Who Wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? There are 54 voting Aye, none voting Nay. Take the record, Madam Secretary. 54 voting Aye, none votin: Nay, 3 voting Present. Senate Bill 66, receiving the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 71. Senator Joyce. Read the bill a third time, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKER) senake Bill 71. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Joyce.
78 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Thank you: Mr. President. Senate Bill 71 provides that bottled water shall be labeled and the label is sold in Illinois - and the label shall contain the date on which the water Was bottled, the source of the water, the mineral content, and the bottlin: company's name and address. The Department of Public Health indicates they are in support of this, and I Would just briefly like to read to you the cpmments frcm the Oversight Committee in the House of Representatives to the FDA calllng for stronger standards. On Page 17 of that report, it provides -- states as follows: that consumers are -- may be paying as much as three hundred to twelve hundred times more per gallon for bottled water than for tap water, because they believe it tastes better or it is safer or healtbier or is free of contaminants. As much as twenty-five percent of this bottled water beinq sold may, in fact, be tap water drawn from public drinking water systems -- treated tap water drawn from public drinking water systems. So, although some consumers may willingly pay for this additional treatment, others may be misled by terms and labels used on bottled water products; terms such as - on Page 18 of that report terms sueh as ''nursery water'' may imply a certain standard of quality that does, in fact. not exist. Label graphics may represent the water source as 'glacier, mountain lake or Waterfall/' when in fact the water comes from a public drinking system. The State of Connecticut, State of Texas and many other states are moving towards this. In committee: the point was raised that perhaps this is something best left to the Federal Government; and as a aceommodation to that feeling, we delayed the effective date of this legislation by one year to await and see what federal action may be forthcoming. With that in mind, I would be willing to answer any questions or ask the support of the Senate for Senate Bill 7l. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) 79 STATE OF ILLINOTS . 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legtslative Day May 20, 1991 Further discussion? Senator Kelly.
Thank you, Mr. President. Ild like to ask the sponsor a question.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYC2) He indicates he will --
Senator Joyce, this doesn't have anything to do with the bottled imported water that's comtng in from other couneries, which was in the national news that there was incidence af cancer-causing contaminants within that Water. This legislation Would have nothing to do With that specifically: but are there any byproducts of this legislation that would impact on that?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Joyce.
This legislation would require that kf the water is sold in Illinois and it's in a container in a gallon or larger - and many of those are in smaller containers - if it is in a container of a gallon or larger, it shall be labeled.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Further discussion? Senator Macdonald.
Thank you, Mr. President. I reluctantly rise in -- opposition to this bill because of my respeet for the sponsor. But I do think that We have to look at What We're doing here/ and I think that we are preempting the federal guldellnes that are under consideration at this particular point. This bill also talks about the souree of Water, rather than the purification of the water, and the source really isn'k -- isn't of that much importance. There should be further - if this bill is to go through there should be further concerns about purifying and 80 STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20# 1991 other matters which are taken care of,by the Federal Government. And I think that this Would certainly injure those companies in Illinois that are national companies that are well-regulated, and also would be a matter of probably destroying some jobs in Illinois. So, very reluctantly, I rise in opposition to this bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Curther discussion? Senator Schaffer.
rise in opposition to this bill without any reluctance at all. This is a case of massive overkill. Apparently, there Was a problem, and we are attempting legislatively to club it to death. Frankly, this type of regulation more correctly belongs at the federal level. Much of this bottled water is obviously interstate. If each of the fkfty states sets up their own standards, we will create a system of chaos in this country. might add this is a preeedent that could be used for corn, green beans, anything else produced in this State. It is rather vigorously opposedz as one might expeet, by the Retail Merchants' Association, the Water Quality Associationy the Illinois Manufacturers' Association, and I guess not surprisingly - Hknckley & Schmitt. What we would effectively do is move a thousand jobs out of this State. It just is a massive bit of overkill. If there is a problem , I honestly believe should be addressed at the federal levelz since most of this water is interstate. And if, in fact, we do have a role, would suggest ko you our role would be to require touqher standards on testing in Illinois plants to avoid problems. Once in a while, we really do get carrked away with overkilly and this is a good example of it.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Further discusslon? Senator Geo-Karis. 81 STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, in the Committee I voted for it# based on the hope that the sponsor would give it at least a two-year date of having to go into effect, because, as Senator Schaffer says, we have about a thousand jobs in Illinois thatfre going to be affected. There is -- there is absolutely, right nowy worked on by the Pederal Government to see what they can do and to increase the quality of the water. However, I do feel that Wedre going too fast on it, and therefore I reluctantly have to oppose it.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Al1 right. Further discussion? Senator Joyce, to close.
Thank you, Mr. President. Fact is, Senator Schaffery other states do have this. Connecticut has it. Texas has it. Ten other Legislatures are in the process of adopting this. We have provided for the likelihood that the Federal Government can act in this area within the next year. And the further fact is, notwithstanding your standard overkill, Hinckley-schmitt is not going to leave here. Bottled water is presently being sold in the State of Illinois by people who are simply taking from a tap and putting it in plastic containers and putting it on retailers' shelves. So I would, at this timez ask support of Senate Bill 71.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) All right. The question is, shall Senate Bill 71 pass. Those ln favor wll1 voee Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. The voEvnq ks open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Secretary. With that, there are 23 Ayes and 33 Nays, none voting Present. This -- Senate Bill 7l, not having received the required eonstitutional majority, is declared failed. Senate Bill 78. Senate Bill 90, Senator Davidson, is on a recall. Senate Bill 103. Senator Fawell. Read 82 STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 the bill, Mr. Secretary.
ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) Senate Bill 103. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Fawell.
Thank you very much, Mr. President. This is a pretty simple bill. A11 it is -- is -- allows the Illinois residents who own a farm, but who do not live on that farm y to be able to hunt pheasants without a pheasant stamp . And 1'11 be glad to answer any questions.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Is there any discussion? If not, the Senator Kelly. I'm Sorry.
Thank you: Mr. President. I'd like to ask the Senator a question. Senator Fawell?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) She indicates she Will yield.
Thank you. Senator Fawell, it does seem like a fairly simple concept to understand, but What I'd like to know, if somebody is on the property, Whomever - whether they're young or middle-aged or o1d - and the 1aw enforcement official or whoever else comes up to them, how do they know that it's their land?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Fawell.
This is already done by the Department of Conservation on some - - on some other hunting, I understand. For instance, on I 83 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 believe it's deer they can hunt so there is a way that the Department of Conservation will be able to tell.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Any further discussion? Senator Demuzio.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman -- I mean, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senator Fawell, if I may, I opposed this in committee and did -- as did a number of others, and I'm wondering if you could tell me precisely what Amendment No. 2 -- what effect that that has now, With respect to this bill?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Fawell.
Amendment No. 2 becomes the bill, and al1 it says is except that State pheasants stamps shall not be required for absentee landlords who reside elsewhere in this State, while hunting on their own property.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Is there further discussion? Senator Joyce.
ïes, thank you, Mr. President. 1, too, voted against this in committee, and I think it's -- we're going a little bit far here. When welre talking five dollars for a State pheasant stamp for a person who is an absentee landlord, that just -- that seems to me that it's just something that We a1l ought to be -- I don't know why it's being introduced. I realize a person came down who had a farm and he wanted to go huntinq pheasants and the pheasant stamp was too much for him. I think wefve a11 done enough in the agriculture community to do everything we could to kill off these birds with our practices in farming. And I just think that for five bucks, whether you own that farm or don't own it, or whether you live on it or anythinq else, that you just ought to be able to 84 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 afford that for the increased habitat to keep pheasants alive in the State of Illinois.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) All right. Purther discussion? Senator Watson.
Xes, thank you. Just a quick question. If I live in Missouri and I own property in Illinois, can I come into Illinois without a license and a pheasant stamp?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Fawell.
No. What we lre talking about are residents of the State of Illinois. By the way: the farmers that presently live on that farm already have this courtesy, Whether they are tenant farmers or whether they are owners of the farm .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Purther discussion? Senator O'Daniel.
Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. I rise in opposition to this bill. I know -- you know, my feeling is that the purpose of the pheasant stamp Was to kind of try to enhance their habitat and promote pheasants in Illinoisy and I just think it's not asking too much to ask absentee owners to buy the pheasant stamp.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR JOYCE) A11 riqht. Further discussion? If nok, Senator Fawell may close.
Thank you very much. You know, I think this is a fairly simple bill. As the -- the gentleman who happens to farm on weekends, and Who requested this bill, pointed out to me: number one, he was devoting three acres of his farm already to raising 85 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20# 1991 ! pheasants. He Went out and he bouqht the pheasant eggs. He put them on the farm, found out his tenant farmer could shoot them , but he couldndt, it seems, without a pheasant stamp. Actually, I guess it got down to the point where it was the principle of the thing. He also pointed out that he had a friend Who lived in a farm who farmed -- who lived in the nearby town, and the way the law is presently written, even that farmer would not be allowed to kill his pheasants. Now, T'm not a great hunter, and franklys I don't care if they go shoot the pheasants or not. It seems to me if I were goinq to raise pheasants to shoot, I could think of an easier way of doing it. But bottom line is, it is the principle of the thing. If, indeed, tenant farmers can shoot these pheasants, then it seems to me the guy that owns the farmz if he lives in the State of Illinois and is paying his taxes, ought to be able to go and shoot his own pheasants. And I ask for an Aye vote. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) The question is, shall Senate Bill l03 pass. Those in favor will voke Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. Voting is open. Have â1l voted Who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 30 Ayes and 24 Nays, l votin: Present. Senate Bill 103, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senator Demuzio. SENATOR DEMUZIO : I request a verification of those votinq in the affirmative. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) A11 riqht. Senator Demuzio has requested a verification. Will a11 those Senators be in their seats? The Secretary will read the affirmative votes. ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) The following voted in the affirmative: Alexander, 86 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Barkhausen, Brookins, Butler, Daley, Davidson, DeAngelis, Donahue, Dudycz, Ralph Dunn, Etheredge, Fawell, Friedland: Geo-Karis, Hawkinson, Holmbergy Hudsong Karpiel, Macdonald, Madigany Mahar: Maitlandz Philip, Raica: Rigney, Savickas, Schaffer, Schuneman, Topinka and Wocdyard.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Demuzioz do you question any of those present?
Senator Mahar.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Mahar is in the back of the Chamber.
Senator Davidson.
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Davidson? Senator Davidson is here.
Senator Dudycz.
PRESIDTNG OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Dudycz. Senator Dudycz is in -- on the phone.
See if Senator Savickas is in there too, will you? Senator Savickas.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) The roll call has been verified. Okay. There are 30 Ayes and 24 Nays. The bill is declared passed. Senate Bill 110. Senator Schaffer. Read Ehe bill, Mr. feeretary.
ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) Senate Bill 110. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Schaffer. 87 STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
Mr. President, Members of the Senate, this bill would simply extend the veterans' preferenee given to people for State employment to persons who have served in the Desert Storm military engagement. In fact, at the request of the Department of Central Management, we have simply extended that preference to those people serving during a period where a declaration of War has been passed by Conqress, or where there's been a presidential proclamation or presidential exeeutive order implemented. That's to cover the Grenada and the Panama situation. It would seem consistent with current State policy. We give the veteran preference to Vietnam veterans, World War Korea, et cetera. With the passaqe of this bill, wq've resolved that issue for some time.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Is there any discussion? Hearing no discussion, the question is# shall Senate Bill ll0 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted *ho wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Secretary. On that question, there are 55 Ayes, none voting Nay, none voting Present. Senate Bill 110, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 127. Senator Fawell. Read the bill, Mr. Secretary .
ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) Senate Bill 127. (Secretary reads tikle of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICZR: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Fawell.
Thank you very mueh. Now that I got my big bill passed for the Session -- this bill allows commuting students not to have to 88 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 qo through the immunization for mumps and measles for -- that our -- students at our local colleges and universities. There have been several discussions about this. Right now, the data says that eighteen- to thirty-four-year-olds -- there were a hundred and twenty-four people altogether in this State last year who got measles and mumps 1988 to 1990. The problem that we've got is, of course, a 1ot of these students are qraduate students, and when you've got qraduate students working and then having to get shots, it causes a11 kinds of problems. Thls has been requested by the Federation of Colleges, and I kould ask for an Aye vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Any discussion? Senator Topinka.
Yes, Mr..President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. reluctantly rise in opposition to this billz as I -- as continually have When we have sought to reduce the requirements for immunization in our colleges, universitiesy eommunity colleges and so on down the line. The Department of Public Healthw the Illinois State Medical Society, the American College Health Association, University of Illinois, Southern Illinois University a1l oppose this bill, and understand that when we start neutralizing these immuniaaeion policies, indeed we are allowinge you know, various communicable diseases to :et onto campus and cause grief. We in studying mumps outbreaks, which oceurred at three universities during recent years, it Was found that thirty percent of Ehose cases reported occurred in sEudents who did no* reside in dormitories. They came in from the outslde, brought in the mumps virus and, indeed, this 1ed to fourteen deaths. It is something that at this time should be strengthened and not weakened. And I think in terms of just a broad-scale issue of public healthw we should oppose this bill and keep our requirements as stringent as they are. 89 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Purther discussion? Senator Holmberg.
Thank you, Mr. President. I rise in opposition to khis bill. As Chairman of Higher Education, I've listened to the testimony. It seems to me that we should be strengthening immunization in this day and age, rather than Weakening it. For one -- one of the thinqs cited each time the bill comes before Committee is how few cases We have had of measles and mumps. That's because We require immunization. Let's not stop a good thing. Let's keep it up and do more of if we can.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOZCE) Further discussion? Senator Watson. Senator Watson.
Question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Indicates she will yield.
Why do we Want to do this? Yeah, why do We want to do this?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Fawell.
I think there's some misinformation going around. This is a report that I got from the Legislative Research Unit. It says, ''According to the Illinois Department of Public Health, tWo thousand sixty-nine people in Illinois contacted measles from September through the present. Of these: a hundred and seventy-two reported as college or university students.g' However, does no* -- they do not keep record of the number of college students who contacted mumps. And there were a hundred and twenty-four that contacted mumps in the State of Illinois. What we -- When we are talking about the people who died on the campus 90 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 because they contacted measles: What we are talking about is a college that has been .exempt from eitber this bkll or any billy because it's a Christian Science college. That's Where the problems lies. It was not in the regular campuses. Whether we pass this bill or whether we don't pass this bill, that college is still qoing to be exempt. The problem that Wedve gotz aceording eo the universieies and ehe colleges, khat we're talking about are graduate students, basically, who are commuting, trying to pick up their master's and their doctorate. A 1ot of them are working. A lot of them are family peopleg and to ask them to go through this is crazy.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Watson.
Thank you. I think you gave a good argument of why this bill should be defeated. Quite honestly, I last year think there was an attempt to -- made to exempt -- commuter students from these immunization requlrements. Xnd my son is recently a freshman at Bradley Universfty, and Bradley had over the last couple of years - has had an extreme number of measles cases there on campus. And I think that the immunization program, if from -- What you say is correct - that is on the decline think is an indication that the current system is working. And I think for us to head in a direction opposite of that would bey really, a wrong way to go at this particular time. I think that the system's workinq as it is, and this is what we should suppork, and I think to head this way would be wrong.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Further discussion? Senator Rock.
Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Maybe I can shed just a little bit of làght on this. This bill 91 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 passed the Senate last year with a pretty good vote count. You'll recall that some years ago, when we put into place the immunization program, what it says is, you, Mr. or Ms. Studenty may not register and attend class until you have proof of immunization. And the bill got to the Governor's desk and Governor Thompson took out all the community colleges - the community colleges on the basis that they Were literally commuter schools; that these people, the student profile of whom is roughly an average age of twenty-seven or twenty-eiqhty were probably vaccinated so far back they don't have the record, can't remember who their family doetor was, and to require them to go through another immunization on the basis that they were commuter students simply didn't make any sense. What we 're saying here and what we said last year - at least in the Senate We said it - Was that there are some sehools in Illinois that are commuter schools that have the same student profile as these students in the community colleges; namely, these kids are twenty-seven, twenty-eight, twenty-nine years old; they have literally lost or forgotten about their immunization records. And rather than deny them the opportunity to register and attend class at Depaul or Loyola or the big commuter schools, we are saying university can waive this. They don't have to Waive They can waive It's permissive. The whole purpose of the immunization program was to attack the problem with residential schools, where you have a closed campus setting. And you have a hundred and fifty or two hundred and fifty klds in a dorm , they want Eo make sure that everybody is immunized. That makes eminent qood sense. But when you're talking about a commuter school where you've got twenty thousand people coming from all over Metropolitan Chicago, a vast number of whom use public transportation - my goodness - if you can 't catch it on the CTA: you probably can't catch it anywhere. What we're saying is that to deny them the opportunity to register 92 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20# 1991 and attend class or to stop the sehool processing their application simply doesn't make any sense. think this bill makes sense, and I Would urge an Aye vote.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Further discussion? Senator Schaffer.
I Would have to join those urging caution on this billz as did unsuccessfully last year. I think there's a bi9 difference betkeen a community college which probably two-thirds of their student body are people who take one eourse, people sixty, seventyz eighty years old: and that is why they were taken oue of the original exemption. Any of the other type schools that still have full-time student bodies, thatîs apples and oranges from my point of view. The bottom line is that - I guess you can make an argument, if we weren't having a problem in this State, that maybe we could loosen up. But one only has to look back at the headlines of the last year to see that we 've had serious problems in our college campuses. If anythinge we should -- we should be tightening our requirements. I1m sorry this is an imposition on some of tbe paper shufflers at the universities, and I'm sorry if itls causing their eomputers a little extra work. But the bottom line is wedre talkin: about human lives here, and there is a real problem . This bill moves in the wrong direction.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Further discussion? Senator Pawell, to close. Senator Fawell.
Well, thank you very much, Mr. President: and think my co-sponsor pretty well summed up. This is a permissive bill. If indeed a college finds that it has a problem, certainly they can require that their commutin: students be immunized or eome in and prove that they have. The problem that We 've qot really is 93 STATE OF ILLINOTS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20# 1991 that a lot of the students that we're talking about who do commute are the ones that, for instance, go on weekends to college, full-time students technically, because they do go and get thelr master's on a weekend. They have to Work during the week. Prankly, mumps and measles are nothinq -- shots are nothing to be fooled around with with a grown man, and I just think this is a good idea. If there is a problem on the campus, the campus certainly can go ahead and require the shots. But I think, under the circumstances, we should pass this bill as the Pederation of Colleges have asked us to.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) All riqht. The question is, shall Senate Bill 127 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wisb? Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Secretary. On that, there are 37 Ayes, 19 Nays and none voting Present. Senate Bill 127: having received the constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 136. Senator Jones. Read the billy Mr. Secretary.
ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) Senate Bill 136. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOïCE) Senator Jones.
Yeah, thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Senate Bill l36 allow those thirty-five personnel to purchase up to ten years of credit for pension benefits between the years of 1974 and the present. What this law does is to take care of those persons who served in Vietnam who are currently certified employees. Current 1aW allows those employees between the years 94 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 1964 and -- 1965 and 1974 to purehase up to ten years of credit. Most of your Vietnam veterans did not enter the employment area as relate to University Retirement System until after 1974. So this bill kould take care of them and give them the same benefits as those *ho served in previous combat. And I ask for a favorable vote.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Is there any discussion? Senator Maitland.
Thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. I dare say there's not an issue that comes before many of us any more than this one does. And when you have as many public facilities as I do, you get calls from a 1ot of people concerned about this issue. I guess, Senator Jones, my concern is -- is obviously the cost to the Skate on this one. We are opening now an unlimited window, and it seems to me that we -- firse of all, we don't know hoW many people there are out there. I mean: we don't know that for sure, or what -- an exact cost. Do you have any estimate, or .has anyone given you an estimate of the cost?.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Jones.
Yes, the estimate annual cost is approximately eighty-seven thousand dollars per year.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR JOYCE) senator Maitland.
What does this do to the unfunded liabilities of the system?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Jones.
The accrued liability is approximately three hundred thousand 95 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 dollars a year. As I indieated to youy these current benefits are for persons who are not covered as those Who -- entered the employment before 1974. It's a cutoff after that period. So, the those Who served in Vietnam did not become employed until -- most of them didnît become employed until after 1974. So this would give them the same benefits as the other employees. Why they have the cutoff, I really don't know.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Maitland. Senator Maitland.
I'm wondering if -- if there's ever been qiven -- any thought been given to allowing them to buy into both -- Xou see, What happens is they eontribute their share, as I understand it, of the contribution. That's what they buy in with. And yet, when the benefits accrue to them -- whenever they accrue, they share in the benefits as thouqh the State had contributed to the same time. Is that is that correct?
PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Senator Jones.
Under current law, those persons Wbo were certified as employees between the years 1965 and 1974, a11 they have to pay is the employee's share, plus interest. What this does is extend to the present time -- take care of those persons who became employees after 1974, and they Will be given the same benefits. think it's time that we do for the Vietnam veterans what We are doing for all other veteransy and even the Desert Storm veterans -- ls allow them the same benefits as those employees who were employed prior to 1974.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Maitland.
96 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20g 1991 Well, yes, I understand that, Senator Jones, but I guess, aqain, my concern is that -- that khe additional cost here comes from the fact that they are only buying in the employee 's share, and that when the benefits eventually accrue to the person, when he or she becomes an annuitanty then they are sharing in the benefits as though they were -- the State had contributed during all of that period. And that's what allows for khe increase in the cost of the unaccrued liabilities.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Senator Jones.
Well, your argument, Senator Maitland, What you are saying in essence then: that if that person is currently employed and they were certified between 1965 and .74, if they served in the Rorean Conflict, it's al1 right for tbe State -- or the University Retirement System to pay that cost and let them share in it. But if they served in Vietnam and was employed after 1974, then you say it's wrong for them to do such. So# What this bill does is take away that discrimination and.give the Vietnam veterans their just due as all of the other veterans receive under this system.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Further discussion? Senator Madigan. SENATOR MADIGANJ Thank you, Mr. President. Question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) He indicates he'll yield.
Senator Jones, is it your intent on this bill ko leave this bill in its present form, or When we send it over to the House, if we do, are we qoing to further work on this -- bill? Or is this a vehicle, or just what are we dealing with here?
PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) 97 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Senator Jones.
This was originally one of the vehicle bills that were to go over, and -- it was passed out of the -- out of committee, but the merits of the issue should be dealt with. I don't know why it was not on the Agreed Bill List, but this is something that was not aqreed upon so, thereforez have to debate it on the Senate Floor.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Madigan.
A follow-up question then, Senator Jones. Why are we not why are we restrictinq this - which might be a qood idea - why are we restricting this just to the State university employees and not extending it to the downstate teachers, or the State employeesz for that matter?
PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Jones.
Dnder current 1aw in the Pension Code, as relate to the University Retirement System, this is -- this is there already. This is something that the University Retirement System brought to me to sponsor to take aWay the discrimlnation. Now , I have no problem with other State employees. I believe Senator Watson has a bill to do exactly What youdre talking about to a certain degree. Bue this deals -- this takes away discriminakione and the University Retirement System brought the bill to me to take care of the Vietnam veterans.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Further discussion? Senator Raica.
Thank youy Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the 98 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGOLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Senate. You know, al1 during Operation Desert Storm we heard Vietnam veterans saying hoW they Wished they would have had what these troops had when they eame home. When the Desert Storm kroops came home, they really felt sorry for everybody who served in Vietnam. And ezelybody's started feeling sorry for the Vietnam vets. Well, this bill here is tryin: to help out Vietnam vets, and I just can't believe there's some Members that have some problem with this bill. I think that we should a11 do the right thing and show these guys what we really thought of them for going out there and risking their lives for them. But we never asked them Why they were doing that. They Were met With picket llnes and everything else, never a kind word. think Senator Jones has -- thls is a step in the right direction. think the Vietnam vets deserve an Aye vote on Senate Bi11 136.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Further discussion? Senator Schuneman.
Thank you, Mr. President. Well, first of all, let's get one thing straight.. This bill does not only affect Vietnam vets. Tf it did, it might deserve a greater consideration by us. Two years ago, the Senate passed and the House passed and sent to the Governor the bill that decided how We were going to fund our pensions. Remember that? Senate Bill 95? Most of us voted for it. Since that time, our Governors, our Legislature have absolutely ignored that bill. Had We funded our pensions under that bill as we then said We would, up until the present tîme we would have spent three hundred and fifty million dollars for penskons that we haven't spent. We have not paid that obligatkon that Was due. %oW my problem with this kind of bill is that that this bill only affects the university system. If you pass the bill, expect soon that the downstate teachers are going to want it, the State employees are going to Want it, every one of 99 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 our systems are going to want this same benefit. And if that happens, wefre probably going to have an unaffordable price tag at a time when we are already failing to pay the cost of pensions. So this is another one of those instances Where the bill sounds good, and certainly you Want to help the Vietnam veterans, but this bill qoes beyond that. You do not have to serve in Vietnam in order to take advantage of this provision.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Further discussion? Senator Keats.
Question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) He indicates he'll yield.
Just to be sure, thls has a ten-year buy-in, not a tWo-year, a ten-year buy-in. Is that correct?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Jones.
Currently - and 1111 repeaE my statement, Senator Keats - currently under the University Retirement System Pension Code, any certified employee who enters serviee between the year 1965 and 1974 can purchase up to ten years of military service. That's current law. The University Retirement System has a -- they have many persons there nok who are Vietnam veterans who did not enter employment un*il afker that 1974 cutoff daEe. What Ehls would do is extend to them the same benefits as those other employees, who beeame employed prior to 1974.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Keats.
The answer to my question was yes. That's the problem with 100 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 the bill. We should have never done the ten years originally. Two or three years is reasonable. But ten years buy-in on something that is not identical -- I'm a military veteran myself. voted against the provision allowing the Legislature to vote -- to add military time. Two years you can defend. That's a draftee or volunteer. When you start getting ten years, the costs beeome unrealistie and we suddenly are making these universal pension funds instead of something based upon working in a specific area. Were limited to a two-year or three-year maxlmum period: think you'd find people much more sympathetic, and the fact that the previous code was overly generous is perhaps why our pension funds are the disaster they are today.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) A1l right. Thank you. Any further discussion? Senator Jones, close.
Yeah, thank you. And in response to that statement: Senator Keats, the University Retirement System , as well as Economic and Fiscal, estimate that the .average.participant will only request about three years of service. Even those persons who currently have three, it's been averaging out about only three years of credit. And really amazes me, really. And I echo the remarks of one of the previous speakers on this bill, Senator Raica. It amazes me that those persons who enjoy al1 the great benefits of this great society and great -- and State, but yet -- and still when it comes down to takinq care of those who - not at their own request, most of them - but those who gave of themselves to help defend this country, we sit up and question whether we should spend a mere eighty-seven thousand dollars a year to give them the benefits that they deserve. So the Vietnam veterans have been treated wronq by this country. A11 the University .Retirement System is attempting to do (s correvt the inequity that currently 101 I ! STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 1 i 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 exists under the Pension Code. And I ask for a favorable vote. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) All right. The question is, shall Senate Bill 136 pass. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay . The voting is open. Have al1 voted Who wish? Have a1l voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Secretary. On thatz there are 47 Ayes, 10 Nays, and none voting Present. And Senate Bill 136, havin: reeeived the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senator Cullerton. Senator Cullerton. Senate Bill 160. Senator Dunn. Senate Bill 170. Read the bill, Mr. Secretary. ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) Senate Bill 170. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Dunn. SENATOR T. DUNN: Thank you, Mr. President. This bill Would'provide that where a municipality has purchased a water system and that there are individuals Who are in the water system but outside of the municipality, they would pay the same rate as those persons within the municipality. Exempted are individuals Who voluntarily wish to pay a different rate for attachment. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Is there any discussion? Senator Geo-Karis. SENATOR GEO-KARIS: Would the sponsor yield for a question? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) He indicates helll yield. SENATOR GEO-KARIS: You're saying that the people outside the municipality should 102 STATE OP ILLTNOIS 87th CENERAL ASjEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 pay the same thing that the people within a municipality are paying? Is that correct?
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Dunn.
That's correct.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Geo-Earis.
Well, I don 't have the conflict anymorez beeause I'm not the mayor anymore, but let me tell you - a municipality tbat provides the water has a lot of expenses. And when you dre saying that the outside of the municipality should pay less, donlt think itfs fair. Therefore, I rise to speak against it, because I donft think it's fair to the municipalities supplying the water and their costs and uhat have you.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Any further discussion? Senator Jacobs. l
Yes, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Would the sponsor yield for a question? Senator Dunn, it appears, according -- at least to the analysis that I have: that says ''no more than,'' and you're saying that ''the same.'' Are we saying that you can 't charge less either?
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR JOYCE) Senator Dunn.
The intent of the bill is to make the charges equal.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR JOYCE) Senator Jacobs.
Well: I have a problem wkth it being equal because, kn some l03 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Leqislative Day May 20# 1991 cases: I personally think thak it should be more, and in other cases where you 're not paying for part of the infrastructure, it perhaps should be less. And I know that's the way it works in our area, pretty much. I know that Senator Holmberg has a question Which is going to take care of the second part, but I have some problems with the bill as I think it sits now.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Any further discussion? Senator Holmberg.
Thank youy Mr. President. To the sponsorz a question.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Indicates he dll yield.
My concerns Were the same as the previous two speakers in committee, but it was my understandingz Senator Dunn: that you were going to put an amendment on that Would -- so that it Would not apply to a11 municipalities under twenty-five thousand. Did you do that? And if so, could you explain it? PRESIDING OFFICER). (SENATOR JOYCE) Senator Dunn.
Senatory that was not my understanding. What I said I kould do was I would chanqe it so that it would not affect peaple who voluntarily wish to come into a system . In the instance that caused this bill to come into existence, there was a municipality that purchased a waEer sysEem. And in that water system were people who are non-village people and people who are village people. The rates charged the non-village people are, or were, a capital charge that the village people do not have to pay. So there's a discrimination there against the non-village resident water users. The individuals numbered some eight thousand people. They have not only no voice in electing the people that set the l04 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legkslative Day May 20, 1991 water ratesy but when the water system is paid for, they have paid for - paid a premium - and owe exactly nothing. They own nothing of the water system .
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Holmberg. Further discussion? Senator Butler.
Like to point out that ln many cases the connections, the interconnections between these communities are a very serious capital charqe. And I know in a case of my own community, we made a special deal with the recipient of the water for them to pay higher rates in order to amortize the cost of the extra equipment. And as I read this bill, that would not be possible. They eould not raise the rates to amortize any expense. Am I correct?
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Dunn indicates he'll yield. Senator Dunn.
Senator Butler, you're not correct. This Would not prevent an intergovernmental agreement between two agreeing municipalities, nor would it prevent a'volunteeruwho wished to come onto a system and pay more.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Butler.
So the deal would have to be made separately from the water rate. In other words, there would have to be some kind of a -- of a per-uniE charge of some klnd in order to amortize those costs. I'm concerned about the cost of the interconnection. IE can 't be free, or it shouldn't be free, anyways.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR JOYCE) Senator Dunn.
No. Senator Butler, I completely agree wlth you. It shouldn't l05 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 be free. But in this case, it's the reverse. Those individuals who are paying a premium never are allowed to own what they dve paid for by paying the premium . So this is the reverse of that. This does not prevent individuals who are, say, outside a municipality and wish the city sewer and water services and are willin: to pay a premium . This does not prevent those people. Nor does this prevent two villages who adjoin each other and wish to enter into an intergovernmental agreement from paying different rates. This only applies to involuntary people who come into a system. ''Involuntary'' is the key. In this case there were eight thousand involuntary people.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Butler? Any further discussion? Senator Dunn may close. Oops -- I'm sorry. Senator Dunn may close.
Thank you, Mr. President. Just to reiterate: this bill calls for equal rates, and what provides for is that people who have been disenfranchisedr who no lonqer have a right to set the rates of the elected representatives, will noW bave a voice in having a fairy equal rate.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) A11 right. With that, the question is, shall Senate Bill 170 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted kho wish? Have a11 voted who wlsh? Have a11 voted Who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Seerekary. On that questiong there are 23 Ayes, 24 Nays, 2 voking Present. END OP TAPE TAPE 3 l06 STATE OF TLLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Senate Bill 170, havin: not received the constitutional majority, is declared passed Ksic>. The sponsor asks that *he bill be put on Postponed Consideration. Senate Bill 173. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill, Mr. Secretary.
ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAPRY) Senate Bill 173. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Etheredge. Senator Etheredge.
Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This bill differentiates between an injury due to acts or negligence of a sponsor of an equine activity, and -- which would be the liability of the sponsor, and al1 other injuries which are the responsibility of the participant. It is legislatton which waé brought to me by the owners of several stables. And it is modeled after legislation from the State of Colorado . I would be happy to respond to any questions.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Berman.
Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I respectfully ri:e in opposition to Senate Bill 173. were a sponsor of a horse showz I Would bring forth this legislation too. The trouble is that it doesn't make any particular sense. The present status of the law requires anyone who has been lnjured as a result of any type of horse-related activity to prove that the person tbey are suing has been negligent. That's a tough burden, and many cases are thrown out of court, as they should be, STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Leqislative Day May 20, 1991 under existing law. Howeverz this bill gives an undue advantage, Where I don't believe it exists -- that ought to be given. We have not seen that there has been an undue amount of lawsuits, an undue amount of judqments, just because there are sponsors of horse shows. Every particular case ought to be decided on its own particular facts. That's What the judicial system is for. This bill seeks to have us intervene in that process and provide certain degree of immunity to sponsors of horse shows. It hasn't been justified in my opinion, and I urge a No vote.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Further discussion? Senator O'Daniel.
Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. rise in support of this legislation. This just deals like with saddle clubs and local horse shows where the people wouldn't have to be liable. It doesn't have anything to do w1th the thoroughbred racing industry or the seandardbred or anything like this. It's strictly for people that Want to hold little local shows that -- it relieves them of some.of the liability: and I think it's a good piece of leqislation, and should be passed.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SEHATOR J.J. JOYCE) A1l right, thank you. Any further discussion? Senator Etheredge may close.
Thank you very much, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the senate. -- I think whether there is undue advankagg here depends entirely upon where you sit or where you . In this case, there are instances where owners of horses, who have in the past sponsored shows, have determined that they can no longer afford to do that. They have to deny thelr friends and neighbors the opportunity to ride on their horses, because of the -- the -- their insuranee companies are telling them that they can no longer l08 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 do that. I think that this is a much-needed bill in order to protect the -- those folks Who ride horses on a reereational basis. I would urge your support.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) A11 right. The question is: shall Senate Bill 173 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? Take the record, Mr. Secretary. On that question, there are 36 Ayes, 16 Nays, none voting Present. Senate Bill 173, having recelved the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 176. Senator Severns. Senate Bill 182. Senator Demuzio. Read the bill, Mr. Secretary.
ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) Senate Bill 182. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Demuzio.
Thank you, Mr. President: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This bill does exactly What the Calendar indicates. It does create the Executive Branch Ethics Act. takes verbatim the language that was in the Executive Order that was issued by the previous Governor, and puts it into the Statute providing that there will, in fact, be a Executive Braneh Ethics Act that Would serve the Executive Branch so that there Would be any -- that there would be a Board that would be created - three members - to examine the gubernatorial appointments for possible conflicts of interest. I -- lt às a bill, again, that the Governor has yet to file an Exeeutive Order With respect to the ethies proqram wlth respect to his administration. This simply codifies that Executive Order from the previous administration, and I would ask l09 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 for your support.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Any discussion? Senator Schaffer.
T would just point out that the Governor's Office is operating under the o1d Exeeutive Order No. 3, and I don't really see any need for this additional legislation.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Any further discussion? Senator Demuzio may close.
Well, thank you, Mr. President. I certainly appreciate the comments as echoed by my counterpart on the other side of the aisle. It just seems to me that *e ought to put into Statute that whieh is by Executive Order, particularly when it pertains to the ethics of our -- of our employees of government, and it seems to me that this is a proper -- again in the area of ethics, which is, I thinkz going to be a bi: concern during the 1991 - '92 elections. It seems to me that this is someehin: that the Illinois General Assembly ought to address.itself to, and I wculd ask for your favorable support.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) The question is# shall Senate Bill 182 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the reeord, Mr. Secretary. On that question, the Ayes are 48, the Nays are 6, and 2 voting Present. Senate Bill -- 182: baving received the required constitutlonal majority, is declared passed.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR JOYCE) Senate Bill 200. Senator Marovitz. Senate Bill 203 is a recall. Senate Bill 2-2-2 is a recall. Senate Bill 232 is a recall. Senator -- 241. Senator Demuzio. Read the bill, Mr. l10 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Secretary.
ACTING SECRETKRY: (MR. EARRY) Senate Bill 241. (Secretary reads title gf bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Demuzio.
Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is a bill that we passed identical out of the last Session of the General Assembly out of this Body - 59 to 0. There was no language changes whatsoever. It simply provided for the -- a bond authorization for the various kater projects throughout the State of Illinois, and now there are some tWo hundred and sixty-five of those projects. This bill attempts to address itself to that problem by taking the surplus money out of the -- ehe use tax reform bill of Senator Netsch's of some two years ago, and uses those proeeeds to fund this proqram. had qome .discussions obviously with some of the other Members, and with some members of the administration. This bill obviously is is one that other people are aware of and are looking to. There probably Will be some additional negotiation long before the end of the Session. Again I say it is identical to what it was when it passed here this last Session 59 to 0, and I would ask for your favorable support.
PRESIDINC OPPICER: (SENATOR J.J. J0ïCE) Any discussion? Senator Woodyard.
Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. To the sponsor: I would like to be added as a co-sponsor to this leqislation. I Would urqe anybody south of 1-80 to be a co-sponsor of this bill. 111 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Any further discussion? Senator DeAngelis. Are you north of Route 80? SENATOR DeANGELISI I am half and half. My left leg is in your area and my right leg is north of 1-80. A question of the sponsor. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Question of the sponsor. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Indicates he will yield. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Senator Demuzio, how is this funded? How is this program funded? PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Demuzio. Hello. Senator Demuzio. SENATOR DEMDZIO : you will recallm Senator, when we created the sewer and water Build Illlnois Projects of two years ago: we took the -- the use tax that was going to be distributed in downstate to the various municipalities and we used that for the revenue source to fund those projects. has been discovered that there will be a surplus in that fund, and therefore eould afford ourselves the opportunity for an additlonal two-hundred-and-fifty-million-dollar bond authorization program for clean waeer projects, and I do have in my hand about two hundred and sixty-five, the latest from *he Environmental Protection Agency, and therefore we will use those proceeds in that surplus fund of the use tax as a means to pay off the bonds, and therefore seems to me that it is a prcgram that We have set up two years ago. We have the surplus available to us, and it seems to me that it is something that we can do this l12 ûl STATE OF ILLINOIS 8?th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 year, without an additional hit on the GRP.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Well -- thank you for the lengthy explanation. You indicated that al1 the communities are contributing part of their use tax into a fund, which is being ratcheted to provide either funds or bonds for this program. Well, my point is this. You are -- every community is contributing to thisz but you are makin: ineliqible those communities who have wait. You are making ineligible those communities who have investor utility eompanies. Or did you take that out?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Demuzio.
I didn't touch it at all. What -- what takes place with respect to the taxes that are collected that go into that fund -- we have afforded the -- the County of Cook the opportunity to use a11 that money - as I recall correctly .into their Mccormick Place Fund. This is only the non-chicago portion of the fund that we are talking about. Only that portion.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Well, I am not talking about Cook County. I am talking about areas outside of Cook County who have investor-owned utillty companies. For instance, I bave a town in my district called University Park, which does not have a public utllity, but an investor-owned utility. My understanding is they are ineligible for these funds. And yet they are paying -- theyfre contributing their share of the use tax.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) l13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legkslative Day May 20# 1991 Senator Demuzio.
If -- if you had raised that question last tiae, we would probably have been amenable to puttkng that provkslon in. I am still amenable to putting that provision in with respect to investor-owned, as ik goes through the legislative processz would be happy to entertain that amendment and assure that those communities participate.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOVCE) A1l riqht. Further discussion? Senator Macdonald.
Thank you, Mr. President. To clarify the position herez will say that this bill had a great deal of discussion in committee. The bill was also passed late in the Session last year and this bill went ou* of eommittee kith unanimous vote. So I stand in support of this particular piece of legislation.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Any further discussion? Senator Demuzio may close. The question isy shall Senate Bill 241 pass. Those in favor *i11 vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. Voting is open. Have all voted Who wish? Have all voeed Who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that question, there are 57 Ayes, none votin: Nay: and none voting Present. Senate Bill 241, having received the constitutional majoritye is declared passed. Senate Bill 248 is on a recall. Senate Bill 25? is on a recall. Senate Bill 267. Senator Schuneman. Senate Bill 269. Senator Jacobg. Senate Bill 270. senator Maitland. Senate Bill 270. Senator Maitland. Senate Bill 282. Senator Karpiel. Senator Karpiel. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 282. (Secretary reads title of bill) ll4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20# 1991 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Karplel.
Thank you, Mr. President. Senate Bill 282 allows the board of fire and police commissioners to give preferenee in hiring for the fire department positions to persons who are certified as paramedics. Under the Municipal Code 'now - presently -- non-home rule units of, you know, municipalitiesw rely on a loeal board of fire and police commissioners to administer the open competitive examinations for all entry-level police and fire department positions. And what the board does, ranks the candidates according to test scores and any preference points. Preference points at the present time are given for military service or previous pollce or fire training. They give five points on the exam for those cateqories. This bill simply adds that they will give five additional points - preference points - if the candidate has has taken a paramedic -- has a paramedic certlfieation. This is permissive; is not mandatory. ... tmachine eutoffl...
Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. When this was in committee, we raised some questions about the fairness of this. -- I think What we are tryinq to do makes sense. But it bothers me to think that that person who may have access to beeominq a paramedlc before he or she applies for that position, is going to fall with those who are a little more wealthy - I think it it strikes a little bit in this partkcular point, even at the -- the minoritkes who may be applying. know it's not the intent. We went over that very much -- so in committee -- it's not the -- tbe -- the intent. But I think this bill does, in fact, discriminate against those who ll5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legkskatkve Day May 20, 1991 are a little less affluent and may not have the opportunity to -- to get this training before they are hired, and I think this should be a duty of what is done after their hiring . And I I urge a No vote. . o. lmachine cutoffl...
Question of the sponsor, please. Senator Senator Karpiel, are we -- 1et me -- let me try and see What you are trying to do. I mean clarify what you are trying to do in my own mind. If tWo people came to be hired at the same time: and you are saying that the the person who had completed a course in paramedics - in addition to the other training - this is required training Would get an extra five points score on -- I mean added to their score, and that they would get employed before the person who didn't have this paramedic training?
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Karpiel.
Yes.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Senator Collins.
What -- what about those persons Who were already employed and wanted to move up? Would they havq also take precedence over a person who would like to move up in rank, being promoted, as well as hired?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Karpiel.
No Senator, this is just for neW hires.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Further questions? Senator Karpiel may close. Senator Raica. l16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 I'm sorry.
Thank you: Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I just want to clarify this bill a little bit. There was a 1ot of dkscussion kn commkttee. Orkginally kt was gokng to give paramedics ten points preference, but the committee suggested that they drop it down to five. A11 this says -- riqht now there is municipalities when they hire paramedic that have to pick up the cost of that individual, or they sign a waiver that says Wlthin a certain amount of ttme, they agree to become paramedies, wikh eighteen months or -- or twenty-six months - whatever it may be - and that municipality picks up the cost for that individual. What this does is someone who is currently a paramedic and who has gone through all the training already, that municlpality can pick up that individual and is permissive, it doesn't say tbat they have to. Currently, police officers and firefighters who go from one municlpality to another municipality are -- already :et the five points. This says it's okay for a paramedic, but you don 't have to give the paramedic the five points. It saves the municipality money in the long run. It it -- in some cases it -- right noW municipalities contract their paramedic services. This would probably enable them to have more paramedics than they have now, and I think this is a good ideay and I ask for an Aye vote.
PRESIDING GFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Thank you. Further discusslon? Senator Collins, I cut you off. Ilm sorry.
Senator, I have some, you know, reservations about this bkll, because there are many people seeking employment and qualified otherwise, who could: in faety be hired and be given While they are drawing a salary - be given the opportunity to take ll7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legkslatkve Day May 20, 1991 this paramedic course, and as you said - as your last speaker just said - and usually that expense is borne by the -- khe employer. Now there are many people who candt afford to go and pay for the course in paramedic before they go and get a job: because Lhey don't have a job. And I think this bill will strike in the face of minorities and those persons who are seeking to get employment and Who cannot afford and don't qualify for grants to take paramedic courses and other kinds of courses. So for that reason, I have some serious problems with it.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOVCE) Purther discussion? Senator Jones and then...
ïeah. Thank you, Mr. President. I recall thls bill was up in committee and I did have some questions as it relate to the ortginal entrance exam: and for the non-home rule units it would have a tendency to give those persons who had previous experience. Many of the non-home rule units ri:ht now have been sued in court as relate to their hiring practicesy and -- and as Senator Raica pointed out, paramedics may move from the City of Chicago and live out there to one of the suburbs and this will automatically give them preference over those persons who may even score much higher on the examination. And there may be -- and it seems to me it is an attempt to -- to prevent those persons who may be qualified for jobs in those -- units of government from getting the jobs. And on that original entrance exam itself, if you gonna qive those type of 'preference, then you are discriminating against those persons. This -- this is an exam whereby one need not have to know a1l the knowledge as such. They get khat training on the job. So therefore - and that's why those kypes of exams have been knocked out, but give this type of preferences means to skirt Ehose individuals who may be equally qualified ln those local units of qovernment, and I urge a No vote l18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 on this bill. PRESIDING OFFICERZ (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Raica.
Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I apologize for standin: -- arising a second time. To Senator Jones and Senator Collins: I'm going to attempt to show you why this is not discrimlnatory. Currently this is this does not include the City of Chieago. If I touch upon the City of Chicago for one second, if may. To be hired by the fire department in the City of Chicago you have to be a student from the Citywide College Program. In other words, if you Went to either Christ Hospital: Northwestern, Loyola, or any other hospital, any other hospital or daily college through a paramedic program, whether you are a minority or not a minorityr you would not receive preferential hiring. You have to be in citywide college to do that. That's one. Secondly, Senator Jones, how this would actually help minority hirings. Currently the private ambulance providers - Burns Ambulance, Capital#- lot of - your private ambulances - hire a lot of minorities. They have training already. If they kere to go to a municipality to take the exam, they would get the five points, whether they be minority or not. They would receive the five points. is permissive. So it would no* preclude them from getting the five points. It would enhance them getting the five points. To say that someone could be workinq on an ambulance and getklng money whlle they are going to school is almost incorrecty for the simple reason as the 1aw states, you can't Work as a paramedic unless you are a paramedlc. And a lot of these departments do not allow you to be hired unless you are a paramedic already. So this bill actuallyy in a roundabout wayy helps minorities, and I think it really does deserve your Aye vote. ll9 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20e 1991
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENKTOR J.J. JOYCE) Further discussion? Senator Daley.
Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. I rise in support of -- this bill, and basically, the Senator has complied did comply with the request of the committee. As she stated, it originally started out at ten points and she did bring it down to five, and I just Would like to point that out to our fellow Senators, and I rise in support of Senate Bill 282.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Further discussion? Senator Butler. SENATOR BUTLER ) Yes. I'd like to -- Mr. President, I'd like to point out one further thing. Remember that there are five pcints given if the applicant has studied tWo years in fire -- fire techniques. So this merely continues that bonus, if you please, for extra effort in getting a little more education. It is not anything new.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Thank you.. Further discussion? Senator Geo-Karis.
Briefly, Mr. Presidentz Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senatez the people who do :et eertified as paramedics to begin withy they have to take intensive trainingz and you need thatr reallyw when you are in the fkre department. I know. And having been the Mayor, I can tell you, our fire department just about every one of them is cerEified as a paramedic. And I'd urge favorable consideration of this bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOY/E) Further discussion? Senator Collins.
Yes. I -- I don't -- I don't mean to belabor this, but the -- the fact that this bill exempts Chicago or Cook County, still does l20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLI REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 not solve the problem, because we have pockets of minorities around this State, and they are growing -- increased numbers of minorities in Peoria and Decatur and of course: East St. Louis, and Belleville and those areas. No one here, basically, in most of those areas represent or speak for those people. And let me tell you something: you have been watching the papers -- the last couple of weeks: you will see some of the problems down in the Belleville area where they have never hired -- never have hired a minority in State Government, and that's ridiculous. And - - and this kind of bill would further complicate that process.
PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Pureher discussion? Senator Karpiel, to close.
Thank you, Mr. President. I will be very brief. I want to thank Senator Daley: Raica and Butler, Geo-Karis - all the proponents of this bill. Senator Collinsy -- it doesn't just exempt Chicago. It exempts al1 home rule units. It it's this is only for non-home rule municipalities. Because home rule unkts can develop tbeir own personnel procedures. Just to reiterate one more time: already in the Statute we give five points - preference points - to anyone that has completed two years of either fire techniques or police training: and we give five preference points for any veterans. This is just making one more cateqory giving five preference poines to someone who has already completed their paramedic training and is certified, and I ask for an Aye vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) The question is, shall Senate Bill 282 pass. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. Tbe voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Eave a11 voted Who uish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that question, there are 43 Ayes, 10 Nays, 2 voting Present. Senate Bi1l 282, having l2l STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 reeeived the required constitutional majorityy is declared passed. Senate Bill 293 is on a recall. Senate Bill 322. Senator DeAngelis. Senate Bill 330. Senator Marovitz. Senate Bill 375. Senator Weaver. Read the billz Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 3-7-5. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Weaver.
Thank you, Mr. Presàdent and Members of the Senate. Senate Bill 375 raises the General Obligation Authorization by one dollar. Try to answer any questions.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Any diseussion? Discussion? If not, Senator Weaver may close. The question is# shall Senate Bill 375 pass. Those voting in favor will vote Aye. OpposeGz vote Nay. The votin: is open. Have a1l voted who Wish? Have all voted Who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that question, there are 56 voting Aye, l voting Nay, none voting Present. Senate Bill 375, having received the constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bi1l 389. Senator Friedland. Has been -- Senate Bill 410. Senator Rea. Senate Bill 414. Senator Woodyard. Read the bill, Madam Seeretary.
senate B1ll 414. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Woodyard.
122 STATE OF TLLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Thank you, Mr. Pres'ident and Members of the Senate. This bill originated with a Youth in Government class in my home scbool district, and in a meeting in January with LRB and staff people, this bill was kind of put together, and it was adopted by the Vouth in Government group , statewide. And what it does is -- is prohibit a landfill's bein: constructed within a thousand feet of a school. Our intent was not to impact on higher education - that - - they had been amended out - and thatgs what the bill does. just says you can't put a landfill Within a thousand feet of a school.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Any discussion? Senator Keats.
Question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOY/E) Indicates he will yield.
Is this limited to landfills or does it include anything under the subtopie? 'Cause it's limited to landfills, it's fine, but you might have other subtopics that are there in the City of Chicago with very densely populated areas. guarantee the City of Chicago is in total violation of this ln several eases. Limited to landfills, I'm sure the City's okay, but other than that, you miqht have a problem.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) SenaEor Woodyard.
Well, my intent is to limit it to landfills, yes. But, wbat are you saying? What is your question? SENATOR XEATS) We are trying to check the terminology. And the point is -- if it might be -- to just take it out of the record a minute, l23 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 because you might have a real probLem with al1 of Cook County. You miqht want to take it out for a minute, just to make sure on that wording.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Further discussion? Senator Welch.
Thank you, Mr. President. What this bill is, it says you can't put a hazardous waste facility witbln a thousand feet of a school. Now is anybody for doing that? That's what Senator Keats raised as an objection. Is anybody for putting a landfill within a thousand feet of a school? I don't think so. Maybe one -- maybe one person. I would move -- I Would urge an Aye vote on this bàll.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Fureher discussion? Senator Jacobs. Senator Woodyard, to close.
Thank you, Mr. President. I Would also urge an Aye vote on this. If we do have problems with Senator Keats: I Will be glad to address those over in the House.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) The question is# shall Senate Bill 4l4 pass. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that questiony there are 57 Ayes, none votin: Nayg and 1 voting Present. Senate Bill 414, havinq received the constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 427. Senator Barkhausen. Read the btll, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 427. (Secretary reads title of bill) 124 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Leqislative Day May 20: 1991 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Barkhausen.
Mr. President and Members, Senate Bill 427, which passed out of committee with little debate and little opposition, amends the public contractor article of the Statutes and requires that any change orders be in writing and that any changes be germane to the original project or contract. be happy to answer your questions, and would otherwise urge a favorable roll call.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Is there any discussion? Any discussion? All right. The question is, shall Senate Bill 427 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who Wish? Have all voted Who wish? Have a11 voted Who Wish? Take the record. On that queseionz tbere are 56 Ayes, none voting Naye 2 voting Present. Senate Bill 427, having received the required constitutional majorkty, is declared passed.
441. Senator Cullerton. Madam Secretary, read the bill a third time, please.
Senate Bill 441. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
Senator Cullerton.
Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. This bill simply creates the Illinois Health Care Eund. The purpose of this bill is. to allow for this fund to receive some private funds. Those private funds then may be combined with any State funds to l25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 provide health care services for indigent persons. The moneys and the funds then can be combined, as I saidz With the State moneys to match federal moneys. So the goal was that we would be able to capture more federal funds as a result of setting up this fund. I'd be happy to answer any questionsz and know of no opposition.
Discussion on Senate Bill 4417 Senator Topinka.
Yes, Mr. President. A question of the sponsor, please.
Sponsor indieates he will yield, if he can hear. Senator Topinka.
Yes. We have about four bills out here now that kind of try to create funds, în terms of providing more health care dollars. HoW does your bill differ from those other bills, and kind of where do you intend to go With this, or do you intend to keep it much in the same form it's in now?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) ... tmachine cutoffl...cullerton. Senator Cullerton. Senator Cullerton. Senator Jacobs.
As far as I knowe the -- those other funds may be limited to certain counties. This is statewide. I think that as far as what happens to the bill, if it is to be changed at all, it would depend on what happens with the budgeE. But thlnk that if nothing happens to the bill, it still is a good idea, because it's just a simple concept that says if there are some private donations, that you can -- that hospitals can raise, they combine it With State moneys, they get more federal matching dollars. That's the purpose of it.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) l26 I STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION I SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACOBS: Well, thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Would the sponsor yield for a question, please? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Indicates he will. SENATOR JACOBS: Well, Senator Cullerton, I see this bill come out of committee 14 to 0, and as I read the bill, it amends bhe Medical Assistance Article. What do you know about the Medical Assistance Artiele? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCOI Senator Cullerton. SENATOR CULLERTON: As I was -- I was reading it over the weekend: and it is very involved. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All riqht. Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACOBS: Senator Cullerton, I understand that, and I know it's quite lnvolved, and I have been informed that the reason it got out of the committee was because of ycur vast knowledge of the Medical Assistance Article, and I just think it would be appropriate if you could as least share some of those thoughts with us as to what you may have portrayed to the committee in order to do such an excellent job in the committee, because it appears to me that you're fumblin: tbe ball a lltEle bit here on -- on this particular Floor debate. PRCSIDING QFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senaeor Fawell. SENATOR FAWELL: Senator Cullerton, the Way you are stumbling aroundy it seems like this is almost your first bill. Does this have anything to l27 i 7 ! STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 do with the County of Dupage? Are you planning on taking our hospitals over or somethin: with it?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A1l right. Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Well, I have a question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DIARCO) He indicates he Will yield. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Did the Speaker of the House say this amendment is okay that you put on this bill?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Cullerton.
Well, you never know What the House is golng to do with the Senate Bills, so I really don't know what they are going to do.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Al1 right. The question is, shall Senate Bill 441 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Opposedy Nay. The'voting is apen. Have all voted who Wished? Have all voted who wished? Have a11 voted who wished? you want to withdraw the bill, Senator? Have a11 voted Who wished? Have all voted who Wished? Have a11 voted who wished? Wished. Wished. ïes, they have. Take the reeord. On that question, there are 53 Ayes: l Nay, 2 voting Present, and Senate Bill 441, having received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 4-4-5. Senator Joyce. Read the billy Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 4-4-5. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Readin: of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) 128 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20s 1991 Senator Joyce.
Thank you, Mr. President. This amends the Horse Racing Act. What it does is put a thoroughbred breeder and a standardbred breeder on the board when the terms come up. be happy to respond to any questions.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any questions? Senator Madivan.
Thank you: Mr. President. Question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) He indicates hefll yield.
The intent of the bill, as I understand from committeez was to add professionalism and knowledge to the racing board. Is that correct, Senator?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senaeor Joyce.
Yes. That is correct.
What would be your opinion -- I believe currently that board members receive a hundred and fifty dollars per meetin: -- what would be your opinion if we were to increase that per diem or fee? Do you think that would add the professionalism to the board , in that would -- could attract more members or people that Would be more interested in spending tbeir time on this?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Joyce.
Well, I'm not sure What our per diem is. I think itîs ' seventy-five. But do you think that if we increased our per biem, 129 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESEION SENATE TKANSCRIPT 29th Legislatkve Day May 20, 1991 it would make us more professional? So -- yeah. I -- I don't know. suppose that -- that it could be argued that that would help.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) He indicates he will yield. SENATOR DeANGELIS: If I am not mistaken, the board is composed of members of -- a certain amount of members of one party and the other members of the other party. NoW by injectin: representation by specific interestsy how do you overcome the initial desire of the General Assembly to appoint people of the opposite party so it doesn't get stacked one way?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Joyce.
Wellw I I am sure that there are Republican thoroughbred people out there and Democratic thoroughbred as well as Demoerat and Republican standardbred, and am sure that that could be taken into consideration on these appointments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Well, that's prerlsely the point. I think that flies right in the face of what you are trying to do. ïou are either going to have to decide that this board is selected in the process that eurrently is, or *e are going to change the entire method, because you are not, in fact, going to get the most professional, if you have to take the political consideration. The other thingy l30 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislatkve Day May 20y 1991 don't believe that you benefit racing in general by putting people on with specific interests. Those people Will, in fact, take care of those interests, and tend - perhaps not to disreqard - but not to put the same emphasis on the whole racing picture, but rather deal with those issues that interest them.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senakor Weaver.
Question of the sponsor, Mr. President.
PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) He indicates he will yield.
Senator Joyce, Would this preclude these members from participatin: in racing after they are appointed to the board?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Joyce.
ïes, I believe it would.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Weaver.
Well then, having formerly been active in thoroughbred or harness racinq, standardbred, then their service on the board Would preclude them from racing in Illinois anyway. Is that right?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Joyce.
During their term.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Jones.
STATE 0P ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20y 1991 Ves. Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. I urge an Aye vote on this bill, simply because this is one of the many issues that's up as it relate to the racing industry in Illinois. The bill will eventually be dealt with With other bills dealing with similar subject. We passed this bill out of committee so that this issue could be addressed. Currently the appointees do -- do not really address the issues as they really relate to the horsemen as such, and this is the reason why this bill is in. And I urge an Aye voee on the bill, simply to 1et :et over to the House, so that we can address this bill when we deal with a11 the other racin: issues in Illinois, and I urge an Aye vote on Senate Bill 445.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DIARCQ) Al1 right. The question is, shall Senate Bill 4-4-5 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The votin: is open. Have a11 voted who wished? Have al1 voted who wished? Have al1 voted who wished? Have a1l voted who wished? Have al1 voted who wished? Take the reeord. On that question, there are 29 Ayes, N#ys, 2 votin: Present, and Senate Bill 4-4-5, having failed to receive the constitutional majority, is hereby declared failed. Postponed Consideration. Sponsor's asked for Postponed Consideration. Senate Bill 4-5-5. Senator Rea. Read the billy Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 4-5-5. (SecreEary reads title of bill) 3rd Readin: of the bill.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Rea.
Thank you, Mr. Presidentz Members of the Senate. The 1990 Clean Air Act, as we indicated earlier, can have a severe effeet 132 STATE 0F ILLIHOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 upon Illinois in terms of the loss of jobs and the use of Illinois coal. In fact, we eould lose twenty-two thousand jobs six ehousand here in Illinois, and an additional sixteen thousand jobs related to mining. Now ehe intent of this legislation is to promote the continued use of Illinois coal as a preferred fuel for electric generators. And a new Clean Air Act amendments place severe restrictions on utility plants' emissions as a result of high -- as a result of high sulfur coal. A switch to 1ow sulfur coal imported from other states may result in the loss of many jobs. Over skx thousand jobs here in Illtnois, plus the ones that are related. This bill would require the Illinois Commerce Commission to consider these economic consequences in approving a change from Illinois coal to low sulfur eoalv and of course the labor stats have shown that each mining job lost -- that there is an additional two or three other jobs that are lost. So this 7 . really compounds the neqative effect upon a coal switch. Basically, it insures the balanced Clean Air Act compliance decisions of the Illinois Commerce Commission, provides equitable tax treatment for new eoal cleaning technology, and broadens an existing State program to oversee eompllanee and to advise the Governor and General Assembly. This legislation has been worked on by the Illinois Coal Association, United Mine Workers, legkslators from coal-producing areas, and many other people. And as a result, have come up With this and feel that it is very important to the ongoing economy of the State of Illinois and the role that coal plays kn that. I would ask for your support. PRESIDING OFFICERZ (SENATOR D'ARCO) All riqht. Any dlscussion? Senator Severns.
Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. This bill is a good eompromise. In fact, as we work to try to keep and retain jobs throughout the State, this is a modest investment to 133 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legkslative Day May 20, 1991 retain many, many jobs. It's a compromise between labor and management. It is a good bill for Central and Southern Illinois, but I also believe it's an excellent bill for al1 of Illinois, and I would urge an Aye vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Al1 right. Senator Dunn. Ralph Dunn.
Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. 1, too, urge an Aye vote on 455 -- Senate Bill 455. This provides the least cost solution for burning of Illinois coal. The Commerce Commission would have to take in consideratkon the economic loss to the jobs kn Illinois when they allow utilities to switch. It also amends the Public Utilities Act and the Natural Resources Act, and lt allows the coal development board - of which am a member - to report to the Governor and the General Assembly regarding neW markets Eor Illinois coal and the etfect of the Clean Air Act. I'd urge an Aye vote too, please.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator O'Daniel.
Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. I rise in support of this legislation. If wefre concerned about the environment doing something about the environment and alsa developin: this abundance of natural resource we have here of energy, we need to -- and maintaininq the jobs that we have, we need Eo qet serious about doing sometblng abouk sulfur ln our coal, and I kould move ehe adoption of this bill.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Davidson.
Mr. President and Members of the Senate, I rise in support of this bill. Howard, if you don't shut up, I'm gonna sign your l34 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 death certificate, ''Accidental death on purpose.'' Senate Bill 455 does something that we have done for other industries already in Illinois: and it gives a industry that We have that is in dire straits. It gives an opportunity for us to keep not only these people employed, but it gives an opportunity for those employers of the retail businesses in the communities in which these people live an opportunity to stay in business and give their employees work. If this doesh't happen, we're not only going to lose income tax and sales tax and then when We have the added cost those individuals who will have to be taken care of under the unemployment and God hope not, back to public Welfarez et cetera. This is a qood bill. We are trying to come up With an answer. It has the support of the Illinois coal operators and the mine worker unions. -one of the few times that I have seen both of them together, and I Would appreciate an Aye vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Al1 right. The question is, shall Senate Bill 455 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wished? Have a1l voted who wished? Have al1 voted kho Wished? Take the record. On that question, there are 57 Ayesz no Nays, 1 votin: Present, and Senate Bill 455, having received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 456. Senator Jones. Senator Jones. Take them all out. 4-5-7. 4-5-8. Take them -- all of them. Take them a11 out. Senate Bill 468. Senator Collins. It's on the Recall List. Senate Bill 472. Senator Collins. No. 487. Senator scbaffer. Senate Bill 499. Senator Watson. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 499. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. 135 STATE OE ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Watson.
Yese thank you, Mr. President. Wben we passed the Sales Tax Reform Act of 1990, one of the impacts of that leglslation was to affect the enterprise zones throughout this State. I hope most of you have been contacted by the enterprise zones in your particular district. The Illinois Enterprise Zone Association is -- has really taken an initiative here in regard to this legislation. What this says is it will establish the local control back in -- in regard to the sales tax exemption for building materials, when a manufacturer or when -- quite honestly, when anyone comes into an enterprise zone district, riqht now, the -- the sales tax will be exempted. Whether you are a homeowner or Whether you are remodeling an apartment building or whatever it might be, the general public isn't aware of thls yet, but what we did with that Sales Tax Reform Act Was create a situation by Which everyone is eligible for this exemption. What we are trying to do here is 1et the enterprise zone administrator take care of''the program and allow for khatever sales tax deductions need to be made at the local level. I'd be glad to answer any questions, otherwise appreciate your support.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any questions? The question is, shall Senate Bill 4-9-9 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed: Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wished? Have al1 voted wbo wished? Have a11 voted Who kished? Take the record. On that questiony there are 49 Ayes, 1 Nay, none voting Present, and Senate Bill 4-9-9, having received the required constitutional majorityz is hereby declared passed. Senate Bk1l 504. Senatot Cullerton. Read the billy Madam Secretary.
l36 STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29:b Legislative Day May 20 , 1991 Senate Bill 504. (Secretary reads title of bt11) 3rd Readinq of the bill.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Cullerton.
Yes. Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. This bill -- it's pretty simple. We adopted an amendment from Senator Schaffer, I believez that adds conservation districts to the provisions of the bill. The bill would say that landfllls should not be found kn forest preserze districts and, now With the amendment, conservation districts. The bill was brought to my attention by some people out in the Dupage County area. There's a couple of landfills in forest preserves out there. The basic problem came about, think, in 1972, When the landfills were first proposed, it was suggested that they would beeome areas for ski hills and chalets and the like. And it turns out that those promises were broken, and now a1l we have in those forest preserve districts is a landfill. And so, the -- the bill ls pretty simple, in that regard; it just says that this is not the place to put them. And be happy to answer any questlons and appreciate your support.
PRESIDTNG OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A1l riqht. Senator Joyce.
Yes. Thank you, Mr. PresidenE. Question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) He indicates he'll yield.
Well, we have witnessed this in the past, Senator, here and I suppose in the House as Wellz but Where people come in with a certain area - forest preserve, park district, what have you - and 137 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20k 1991 say, well, you know, this should not be a landfill area - well, that's right; it shouldn't be. However, we see these places al1 get in this area that cannot possibly contain a landfill, and then We see the legislators from that area a1l this time are being great environmentalists. And then, once their area is so that they cannot possibly have a landfill anymore, then they become not quite so concerned, and then bhey become concerned about where this garbage is qoing to go. We have so much of it, and it is piling up on us. And we may have to loosen up the siting process or we may have to do this orz you know, perhaps We have this problem - we ought to push it downstate a little bit. And that's what concerns me. And my question to you is - I would certainly hope that you wouldn't be one of those folks that once an area gets so that you cannot possibly have a landfill in your area, then think that, you know, We do have a problem and We need to loosen up *he controls and site some of Ehese landfills downstaEe where it won't hurt these people down there, because there aren't very many of them . You wouldn't be one of those, would you, Senator?
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) I think I think that Was a question, Senator. A1l right. Senator Welch.
I had a question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) He indicates he'll yield.
Senator Cullerton, a few years ago we passed a laW that says that every county has to come up with a solid Waste management plan. Now, Dupage County has been working on this plan for several years. Now, at the last minute, after their plan is due, you're comin: in with a b1l1 telling them you're goin: to close 138 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Leqislative Day May 20, 1991 down tWo landfills in their county after they've -- yes, you are. You're telling them that you have to close down tWo landfills in their county, in their forest preserves, when they 've already drawn up a plan to determine what happens to their garbage. So: if youdre going to tell Dupage County they can't dump garbage in kheir two landfillsy where are they going to dump it?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Cullerton.
Yes, this is important. It's a point I probably should have made; I apologize for not making it. This talks about expansion of any current landfëll. So, it does not shut down the current landfills that are there. The landfills are permanent. They can be continued to be in use. Itfs expected to -- that that should qo for another two or three years. The purpose of this bill is only to say that -- that neW -- Iîm sorry -- that expansion is what would be prohibited.
PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Welch. . '
Well, from my reading of the iuburban papers, they have already planned to expand those landfills, and that's part of the Dupage County Waste management plan. So, with those landfills bein: full in one or twoz or three years, you have a choice. You are encouraging the building of more incinerators in the Chicagoland area, or you're going to ship it down to other landfills downstate. Now, Which is it goin: to be?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Cullerton.
Well, the bill says that there shall be no expansion of any landfills in a forest preserve district. Nowy I believe that this 139 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legkslatkve Day May 20, 1991 would apply currently to two forest preserves that now have landfills, and it would apply to any future plans to expand a landfill in a forest preserve district. And if it -- if it increases the need to be tougher on recycling, or if it increases the need to -- to have incinerators, whatever -- that -- that miqht be the result, but what Welre saying is that the people, especially the people in these areas that Were promised recreational facilities, that were lied to, that they should have - and theypre the ones thae have brou:ht the bill forward they should have the peace of mind to knoW theylre not going to have even more landfills in their forest preserved areas.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Welch.
Senator, al1 of us who have landfills in our area have been lied to. All of us were told they wouldn't leak: Senator. We kere a11 told they Wouldn't leak, so al1 of us have been lied to. But the choiee isndt to just stop that one landfill. What's Dupage County going to do with their garbage in-two years? Youdve got a great interest in Dupage County here. And you know, one of the arguments thatls often used against any of our environmental plans is that this is not part of a comprehensive solution. Well, this certainly is not a part of any comprehensive solution. It's an attempt to make one area of the State - Dupage County sacred, Where no garbage can be buried.
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR D'ARCO) A11 right. Senator Lechokicz.
Thank you, Mr. President. Will the sponsor yield to a question?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) He indicates he Will. 140 STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th CENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legkslatkve Day May 20, 1991
One, I'd like to know - has the county board reviewed this matter, and have you received this recommendation from the Dupage County Board? PRESIDING OPFICER: (SESATOR D'ARCO) Senator Cullerton.
No.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Lechowicz.
Then, Mr. President, -- my question is addressed to you. Under the home rule powers, hoW many votes does this bill require?
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DIARCO) Let's wait on a ruling. And, Senator Schaffer.
Well, before we get to ihatz then let me just address the bill, if I may.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All right. Address the bill.
I1m going to stand in opposition to this bill, because I don't believe that there has been proof that the County Board of Dupage County has done anything Wrong to the people of Dupage County in referenee to landfill operations. Therels no question that this area is probably one of khe most crltical areas. nexE to heal*h care, that's going to be addressing that's going to have to be addressed by this General Assembly. And Pae Welch Was absolutely correct. We asked for coordinated plans as far as the areas of putEing waste from a1l counties of this State. Dupage County, in their wisdomz adopted this program some years ago. There has been an extension in asking for an -- extension in time on one of the 141 STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20z 1991 landfills, to my knowledge. The reason for it -- there is not an alternative site that they have to use. Wedve also increased the tipping fees throughout this State this past year. I don't believe we should be picking on a county, whatever county it may be, on this important subject matter When you donft have an alternative site that they can use. would strongly recommend a No vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Al1 right. Senator LechoWicz, on your question - it requires thirty votes. There 's no express exemption for home rule in the bill: and it amends the Forest Preserve Act . Senator Hudson. SENATOR HDDSON; Thank you: Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I am rising in support of this bill. If there has been any one partieular subject over tbe past few months that I have received communication, letters and what-have-you on# it happens to be this one. The landfill in question here, one of them - Mallard Lake and Green Valley - Green Valley happens to be in my district. People are concerned - concerned mainly because there was an agreement entered into by the forest preserve district and others Waste Management: I quess, back in 1974. Nok, this is no Johnny-come-tately idea; 1974, and the agreement, Ladies and Gentlemen, at that time was that this landfill would be developed for recreational purposes and al1 those other good things. It happens to be part of a forest preserve district, and T would remind you that in Dupage County the forest preserve district members and the eounty board members are one and the same. Sow in most'cases, therefs very little discussion or disaqreement between the two entities on some of these thkngs. But the understanding was that in 1993 -- by 1993, the operation that -- they understood would be undertaken and completed by 1993. Well, this has dragged along and dragged along, and now what presumes -- what the -- 142 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 presumably what is going to happen is that this will -- this operation will be extended for I don't know how many more years, but a good number of more years beyond the agreement. So, the people involved around there feel that theydve been kind of in a way they've been kind of - what should We say? Yes, they dve been had. They thought they had an understanding, but they didn 't have an understanding, apparently. And they are somewhat resentful of this. They're not asking that it be shut down, but that it simply not be continued to be expanded into the next millennium. And I'm I happen to be with them. I think they have a case. I think their voiee needs to be heard, and somebody up in that area ought to speak in their half -- on their behalf and on their -- in their defense. So I would urge a vote for this bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Schaffer.
Mr. President, rise in strong support of the bill. Senator Cullerton was kind enough to allow me to put an amendment on this bill that also includes conservation districts. I feel I should add very quickly that no one in my area, to the best of my knowledge, has any thoughts of putting a landfill in a conservation district; however, times change and I think there is a garbage crisis coming. And when that crisis comes, I do not want my units of local government lookin: at landfills sited in conservation districts or forest preserves. It seems to me that bokh of those entities are creatures of the State, were created by the Senate and the House for very specific purposes - conservation of our natural resources and recreation. I do not believe those purposes are consistent with landfills; and, while there may be sites that are appropriate for landfills, I do not believe forest preserves and conservation dîstricts should be the vehicles for l43 STATE OE ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislatkve Day May 20 , 1991 acquiring and operating those sites. think it's a good bill; and I think it will be an interesting roll call.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Topinka.
Yes, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, 1, too, think it's a very, very good idea, and I commend Senator Cullerton for doing this. Howevere having a district that is both Cook and Dupage, I do have one question of the sponsor; that being, if indeed fifty percenb of Cook County garbage goes into that landfill, do you have some alternative means for taking care of that fifty percent Cook County garbage?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Cullerton.
I think the answer is that We've got to increase our efforts at recycling in Cook County. think, if anythinql these limitations of where you can put a landfill increases that #ressure.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A1l right. Senator Cullertonz to close. Senator Joyce.
Thank you, Mr. President. I'm sorry to rise for the second time, but something is baffling me about this bill. I see a11 of the Senators from Dupage County standing up and sayin: what a good idea Ehls is. How come youdre not Ehe sponsor of i*, one of you fellows over there?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All right. Senator -- Senator Cullertonz to close.
I would just ask for a favorable roll call.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) 144 STATE 0F ILLINOTS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 A11 right. The question is, shall Senate Bill 504 pass? Those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wished? Have ali voted who Wished? Have all voted who wished? Have a11 voted who Wished? Have a1l voted who wished? Take the record. On that question, there are 36 Ayes: 15 Nays, 3 voting Present. And Senate Bill 504, having received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 507 is on the Recall List. Senate Bill 524. Senator Dunn. Senator Dunn. Senate Bill 542. Senator Maitland. Senate Bill 565. Senator Butler. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 565. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Butler.
Thank you, Mr. President. Ten years ago the State Legislature passed the State-Mandates Law, and part of that law required the DCCA to provide a report every two years. Ten years later we have not received that report, and all this bill does is to place a date certain on that of October 1991. It asks merely that DCCA do what the State Legislature required it to do.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A11 right. Senator Jacobs.
Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Again, I have -- I have to rise on a bill that appears to me to be totally innocuous. Here is a piece of legislation that is being offered, appears that Senator Butler comes down here as the Mayor of almost twenty years and stands here noW and is gonna tell us that DCCA has been doing things wrong, when in fact, he's probably been 145 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislatkve Day May 20, 1991 on the dole from DCCA all of those years, taking whatever dollars he could find and running With those. So I don't really know why he would even think about sponsoring a bill of this particular maqnitude.
PRESIDING OFPICCR: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Dudycz.
Yes. Thank youy Mr. President. I have a questlon of the sponsor. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCOI He indicates he will not yield.
Senator Butler, my summary states that the State Mandates Act is amended to require that a report from DCCA on State Mandates reviewing all mandates enacted prior to January 1981, and remaining in effect of the time of the report would be filed as amended, before October lstz 1991. Is that correct?
Yes. Yes.
Well -- well, what happened during that ten-year perlod: Senator Butler?
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Butler.
Well, I ean speak, Mr. Dudycz, with qreat -- Senator Dudycz -- can speak with great authority on what happened in the last ninety days. But I èan't speak without any -- with no knowledge on What happened ten years ago.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: l46 STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEKBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislatkve Day May 20z 1991 A question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DIARCO) He indicates he 'll yield. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Is this bill a vehicle for the Regional Airport Authority?
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) A11 right. Senator Butler.
I -- I -- Mr. President, I thinkz tn answer to that, it would be over the dead bodies of a lot of people in this room.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Schaffer.
Mr. President, I understand this is a duplicate bill in the -- of one jdentical in the House: and therefore a total waste of time and the taxpayers' funds. If I read our analysis correctlyy it creates an unfunded liability of over forty-one million dollars and let's see the annual costs to local governments alone is a hundred and seven million dollars. 1 thknk we better think this one over very carefully. PRESIDING OFPICERI (SENATOR D'ARCO) Al1 right. Senator Butler, to elose.
Well, all I ean say if Senator Schaffer was correct, then we a1l better start saving our money. This is a very simple bill. I appreeiate a11 the support it's obvlously going to get. Thank you, Mr. President.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) The question is# shall Senate Bi11 5-6-5 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The votinq is open. Have a11 voted who wished? Have al1 voted who wished? Have a11 voted who Wished? To voke. Have a11 voted who wished? This is -- this is l47 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY RECULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislatkve Day May 20, 1991 not funny. A1l right. Have a11 voted who wished? Have al1 voted wbo wished? Have all voted who wished? Take the record. Yes. Yes. Yes. Senator Luft, for what purpose do you arise?
Thank you, Mr. President. If an error was made: havin: voted on the prevailing side, would move to reconsider the vote by Whkch Senate Bk11 565 failed.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) All right. Senator Luft has moved to reconsider ehe vote by which 5-6-5 failed. A1l in favor, say Aye. Nay. The Ayes have it. The vote is reconsidered. Now, the question isz shall Senate Bill 565 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted Who Wished? Have a1l voted Who wished? Have all voted who wished? Take the record. On that -- on that question, there are 54 Ayes: 1 Nay, none voting Present, and Senate Bill 565, havin: received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. Congratulationsz Senator Butler. Senate Bill 608. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.
senate Blll 608. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Etheredge.
Thank you very much, Ladies and Genttemen of the Senate. This bkll establishes the Podiatric Scholalship and Resideney Aet. It is patterned after the Pamily Medieal Practice Act and the Dental Practice hct. It is desiqned to encourage tbe offerkng of residencies for doctors of podiatric medieine and to further encourage them to practice in areas of the State where there is a 148 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th CENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative 9ay May 20, 1991 particular need for their services. I'd be happy to respond to any questions.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Any discussion? If not, the question :s# shall Senate Bill 608 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who Wished? Have all voted Who wished? Have al1 voted who wished? Take the record. On that question, there are 49 Ayes, 2 Nays, l voting Present, and Senate Bill 608: having received the required constitutional majority: is hereby declared passed. 617. Senator Joyce. 622. Senator Jacobs. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 622. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Jacobs.
Thank you, Mr. President. And inasmuch as I Was the 'start of both of the first bills, we don't need any retaliation. This bill does exactly what it says it excludes from the defynktkon of real property a boat or barge that is not resting on a permanent foundation. This bill was brought up mainly beeause of a -- a problem that exksts in my area, and it also is contrary to that is being looked at differently in other parts of the State, and it just makes ie consistent. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCUI Al1 right. Any discussion? Any discussion? If not, the question is, shall Senate Bill 622 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wished? Have al1 voted who wished? Have al1 voted who wished? Take the record. On that questionz there are 48 Ayes, 4 Nays, 149 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Leqkslatkve Day May 20y 1991 none voting Present, and Senate Bill 622, having received the required constitutional majority, is hereby deelared passed. Senate Bill 634. Senator Joyce. Senate Bill 641 is on *he Recall List. Senate Bill 644. Senator Topinka. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 644. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Topinka.
Yes. Mr. President: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, this particular bill would amend the Public Community College Acte the University of Illinois Act, the Regency Universities Acty Southern Illinois University Management Act and the Board of Governors Act. In other words, all of those qroups that control the operations of public universities. And it would prohibit the governing boards of public colleges and universities from barring United States Armed Forces training proqrams or organizations from their campuses, strlctly on the basis that those organizations are complying with federal law. And basically this addresses the question that comes ùut of Northern Illinois University, but it is copied through other universities throughout the State of Illinois even out of state - where there is a desire because of various groups who disagree with federal provision to eliminate ROTC programs on these campuses. I would like to point out that upwards of ewenty-five percent of ROTC now provides minority and womenfs scholarships plus fedetal Eunding to the State, and this bill would not preclude other forms of -- of a contract from -- it would not preclude universities from disengaging from other contractual means, but it Would preclude them from doing anything l50 STATE OF ILLINOIG 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 -- getting rid of ROTC in terms of strïetly being in eomplkance With federal law. That's it.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SZNATOR D'ARCO) A1l rigbt. Any discussion? If not, the questïon is, shall Senate Bill 644 pass. Those in favor: vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted Who Wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record.On that question, there are 51 Ayes: no Nays, 4 voting Present, and Senate Bill 644: having received the required constitutional majoriky, is hereby declared passed. 645 is on the Recall List. 651. 707. Senator Kelly. Read the read the bill, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 707. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Kelly.
Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Senate Bill 707 increases the General Obllgation Bond Authorization for capital facilities by twenty-five million, and authorizes the Department of Mental Hea1th and Developmental Disabilities to make capital qrants to community residential facilities for the mentally ill and developmentally disabled. The Senate bill was introduced at the request of *he Citizens Council on Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities. It would comply With the 1987 OBRA Act: and it's supported by the Allàance for the Mentally 111. I would request your support and...
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Al1 riqht. hny discussion? If not, tbe question is, shall Senate Bill 707 pass. Those in favorz vote Aye. Opposed: Nay. l51 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Leqislative Day May 20, 1991 The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wished? Have a1l voted who wished? Have a11 voted who Wished? Take the record. On that question, there are 53 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Presente and Senate Bill 707: having received the required constitutional majoràty, is hereby declared passed. 710. Senator Kelly. Senator Kelly. 710.
Thank you: Mr. President.
PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Al1 riqht. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 710. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR D'ARCO) Senator Kelly.
Thank you, Mr. President and a11 the Members of the Senate . Senate Bill 710 would add a neW paragraph to the State Statutes to provide a twenty-day paid leave of absenee for a year for teachers who are elected by the board of trustees for the Downstate Teachers Retirement System. The retirement system is required to reimburse the respective sahool distriets for the cost, so there is no cost to the local district. This bkll Would -- well, it should have been probably on the Agreed Bill List, it is supported by the Teachers Retirement System, the State Boatd of Education, and the IEA, and I request your support.
A11 right. Senator Kelly has moved the passage of Senate Bill 710. Discussion? If not, the question is, shall Senate Bill 7l0 pass. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Opposed: vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have al1 voted who l52 STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legîslatkve Day May 20y 1991 wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. 0n that question, there are 57 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. Senate Bill 710, having received the required constitutional majority: is declared passed. END OP TAPE TAPE 4
...tmachkne cutoffl...ll. Senator Kelly. Read the bkll, Madam Secretary, please.
Senate Bkll 711. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
Senator Kelly.
Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Can recekve the same vote I did on the last tWo bills? Mr. Prezkdent, Members of the Senate, Senate 3il1 7l1 is very similar to the Brady Bill, which is under deliberations in Washington. It provides a seven-day waiting period for those persons who wish to purchase handguns. The purpose of that legislation is to extend the cooling-off period and to allow additional time for individual background checks. Now we knoW that under the current system under the FOID card - there 's a thirty-day period which we do have a background cbeck, and whieh is not one of the privileses that is going on With the Washington legkslation. But the real fact is that there is additional time needed to check out backgroundsg to l53 l i STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY ! REGULAR sEssI0N SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29*h Legislative Day May 20, 1991 find out about the mental stability of these applicants, to review the matter closer. And what we have noW is a seventy-two hour wait. And this would require a one-week wait. And it would only apply to handguns. This doesn't apply to shotguns: to rifles, to assault weapons. Andy I don't have to tell you: in the last three yearsg therels been over fifty thousand people killed by handquns - by these triggers of handguns either being pulled or by accidental deaths. But fifty thousand people have died in the last three years. Now, in Washington, I'm not sure what's gonna go on. As you know: there 's been some changes takinq place - or tryinq to - in the Senate. And -- but I do know this - that Jim Brady would be very proud to know that we are trying to support legislation which he favors. I know President - former President Reaqan has even endorsed this concept. And I just think it's time that we should give a message to alloW for more understandin: and more protection from handguns in this State and in the nation. And I6d request your support. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Brookins. SENATOR BROOKINS: Will the sponsor yield for a question? PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) He indicates he will yield. SENATOR BROOKINS: Senator, how do you register a qun in the City of Chicago now? PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Kelly. SEHATOR KELLY : Wellz I'm not sure What you do in Chicago. But I know if you -- in order to qet a handgun anywhere in the State, you have to have an FOID card in order to -- to receive a -- in order to go in and purchase a weapony whether it's in Chicago or anywhere else àn 154 ' j STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legkslative Day May 20, 1991 the State. Now, what you do differently, thknk -- why don't you tell me, 'cause I think you probably know the answer to that better than I do. PRESIDING OPFICER; (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Brookins.
The answer is you can't register a gun in the Ckty of Chkcago at present. It's impossible, unless youire a -- a peace officer or police officer. So I'm asking, What good would this do, and who would this get afterv and who would this prevent from shooting who? Who goes into a store, purehase a gun, register it, and then comes out and shoots'someone with it? I'm sayin: to you that this will make criminals out of law-abiding citizens. That ts the poknt, because those folks that will register guns are the folks that abide by the 1aW. So it's unnecessary - this is totally unnecessary legislation for Illinois.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Purther diseussion? Senator Raica.
Thank you, Madam Tresident, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Will the sponsor yield for a question, pkease?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) He indicates he Will yield. Senator Kelly <sic> .
Senator Eelly, can you tell me what the three additional days are going to do, or what we hope to accomplish by those days?
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Kelly.
It's in response to that question - and thanks for raising it, because Senator Brookins asked a similar -- or at least made a similar statement that, you know, what qood is it going to do to 155 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 get an extra day or two. It might mean a 1ot to the lives - and would mean a lot to the lives - of individuals whose lives are taken. It gives a little longer coolinq-off period. I don't have to tell you that there are domestic quarrels. There are people that 9et mad at their neighbors. And there are others that want to aktack, because they lre a membeç of a gang and tbey want to get a hold of a :un to pay back that gang member. So there 's a lot of reasons why a little cooling-off period will save some lives.
PRESIDSNG OPFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Raica.
Senator Kelly, a11 this Would do would say that the gun shop owner or the dealer would hold that Weapon for an extra three days. Am I correct?
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Kelly.
Yes, you are, Senator. You are correct.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Raiea.
Senator Kelly, if an individual was arrested Who held a FOID card, and the FOID card was just renewed and it's good for five years, and the Department texoked the FOID eard, could that indivàdual go into a gun shopz after spending one year in jailp and purchase a keapoa?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Kelly.
Well, he would still have to comply with a11 the requirements of *he FOID Stakute. So that -- that requirement would still be in place. 156 I STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legkslative DaY May 20, 1991 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Raàca. SENATOR RAICA: Senator Kelly, my question was can that gentleman who has a POID card present that POID card in a place of business that sells guns, and purchase a weapon? PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLIHS) Senator Kelly. SENATOR KELLX: Well, I guess that's one reason -- another additional reason for this legislation, because it would make that possible. And by having an extra few days, it would allow for the -- in some eases, especially for the :un owner, the one thak owns khe shop , to contact a laW enforcement agency and say, ''What about this card? What about thks indkvidual?': I -- I think it gives a little extra time ko the shop owner to -- to make a determination on this applicant as well. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Raica. SENATOR RAICA: senator Kelly, it's my understandiag that that gun shop owner would do nothinq. He just Waits three days. So hoW is that eontacting the loeal gun enforcement people or 1aw enforcement? PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Kelly. SENATOR KELLY: Well, as it is nowz it's it's three days right now. What welre talking about is four days. What I'm saying, after the -- the khird day, let's say the fourth day or the fifth day, somebody comes in there and they act insane - and there 's a few people out there that are insane that have guns or Want guns that shop owner would have a couple of days to contact the law l57 STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 enforcement aqency to decide whether or not they're going to pull that POID card and to prevent that individual from purchasing that gun.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Raica.
Thank you, Madam President. To the billz please. Right now, if someone from out of state, Who is a dealert decided to come in the Sta*e of Illinois and sell a weapon to a dealer: he can sell that weapon to a dealer. That gun - the handgun that he sells to the gentleman in Illinois, whether it be a reputable owner or not. That gun that is sold in Illinois can be hot. There is no way for that 9un dealer, presently, to check to see if that weapon is hot or not. There have been guns sold by dealers in the State of Illinoisy who in good fakth, buy Weapons from outskde the State oc Illinois, Who have no knowledge Whether that weapon is hot or not, or has been stolen. Secondly, the ehree-day cooling-off period - the exampke tbat 1 just gave. If someone eommitted a crime and had a EOID card that Was that that has a five-year expiration, held that card, got out of prison, went into a :un dealer shop, he can still purchase a card, 'cause that dealer daes no check under this legislation. The three-day cooling-off period, if we want to call it that, would just punish, in my opinion, the innocent person who qoes and purchases a weapon within the -- within the State of Illinois. In addition: currenEly the FOTD card has -- needs no information except for the address of the individual. There's no social security number, there's no driver's license, and Ehere's no certificate of birth. Senator Kelly, I'm coming up with an amendment that Will help to give added protection to the people Within the State of Illinois. I do not think this is the Way to go, because this does not give any checks to the gun owners. the dealers Within the State of 158 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Leqislakîve Day May 20, 1991 Illinois. And the crimes that are being committed Within this State of Illinois are by people who have no FOID cards: not by people Nho have FOID cards. These are by gang members, and gang members cannot gek EOID cards. So I think that this is an invasion of privacy to people who have the right to own a weapon and who wish ko do it legally. And I would ask for a No vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Further discussion? Senator Dudycz.
Thank you, Madam President. Question of the sponsor, please.
PRESIDIHG OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) He indicakes he w1l1 yield.
Senator Kelly, assuming that your bill becomes 1aW and the Waitin: period is extended from the seventy-two hours to the seven-day period, who is to provide this background check?
PRESIDISG OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Kelly.
Well, the current 1aW eovers the FOID -- covers the background check. This seven days allows some extra time in case there's additional time needed. But We already have the background check under the FOID. What this does -- it gives a little extra time just in case there's additional facts that have to be reviewed by either the Department or by someone else . So it's -- it will just assis: in by increasing, it'll -- it'll help to cool it off and i*'1l give i: more time for a backqround check.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Dudycz.
Senator Kelly, the -- there is no magic in that number seven. Seventy-two hours, seven dayse I know that during my time on the 159 STATE 0P ILLIHOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Leqkslatkve Day May 20, 1991 Chicago Police Department, the record section was so behind on their -- inputting their reeords that many times it took more than seven days. took weeks to eheck backgrounds on certain lndividuals. So I donît think it'; Workable. Plus you're adding an extra burden onto law enforcement on the various police departments - requirin: them to come up with some sort of response within that seven-day period. As far as your staeement re:ardlng the crime of passion and the coolinq-off periodse when somebody is -- is engaged in a erime of passion and if there is a -- handgun on their side, yes, they will use it. And if there is no handgun, based upon my experience, Iîve seen them use knives, tables, or anything from the pietures off the walls to the kitchen sknk. If it's a crime of passton: they don't care what they use. If they wish to inflict bodily injury upon somebody, be it a handgun or anything else, they will inflice that bodlly lnjury. And finally, to answer Senator Brookins' question . He's correct. In Chicago, you eannot for at least the last ten years, you cannot Eegister a handgun. Yet in the last year alone, the Chicago Police Department confiscated approximately twenty thousand handguns. So the law isn't working. The ordinance isn't Working in Chicago. There's no reason to believe that this magic seven number is goinq to make it work in Illinois. And I thlnk that we should go about enforcing some of the laws that we have: ! rather than posing some of these restrictions on our law-abidin: citizens.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Further dkscusskon? Senator Kelly, to close .
Well, Senatoi Dudycz, if it's working so well, why is there so many homicides occurring right now? Ifd like to say that we dre not talking about the FOTD card. Wedre talking about a cooling-off period - a seven-day period. This is exactly what l60 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 theydre deïiberating in Washingeon. And I think Illinois ought to be one of the first stakes to 1et Washinqeon know that we are Strongly behind the Brady Bill. And I request your support.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) The question is, shall Senate Bill 711 pass. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wksh? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that question, there are 24 Ayes, 33 Nays, none votkng Present. Having failed to receive the constitutional majority, Senate Bill 7l1 is deelared -- the sponsor has requested Postponed Conskderation. Senate Bkll 3 -- 735. Senator Weleh. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 735. (Seeretary reads title of bikl) 3rd Readinq of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Welch.
Thank youy Madam President. What this bill kill do is amend the Public Utilities Act and create a new act concerning hydroelectric power. The bill will provide that electric utilities shall purchase electricity Etom public-owned hydroelectric producers at a wholesale rate. The purpose behind this bill is to provide a clean source of energy for the State of Illinois. We currently require that utilities purchase energy from kncknerators that burn qarbage . It seems only faàr to me and it seems a good public policy - to require that electricity be purchased at the same ratez from a clean source of energy that of hydroelectric power. This bill Will do something else, as well as create a source of energy for the State of Illinois. Approximately three hundred and forty million dollars will be 161 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY KEGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 invested within the State for the development of Illinois' hydroelectric potential. The vast majority of this investment will be contracted with Illinois firms. Sknce Illinois hydroelectric potential is made up of numerous smaller projeats, their development will have a definite economic impact in local areas throughout the State of Illinois. Local construction companies, equipment suppliers, laborers, concrete batch plants, electricians, carpenters - locally will a11 be used in the development of these projects. In addition, signifieant manufactured components would be needed which are presently manufactured by Illinois companies. Hydroelectric power plants use a variety of manufactured equipment, including electrical controls, wlring, valves, fittings, hydraulie devices: transmisskon equipment, rubber components, electrical fixtures and more. All of these are manufactured in the State of Illinois. This bill is both a jobs bill and an environment bill. would be glad to answer any questions.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Purtber discussion? If -- if not -- Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you, Madam President. I just have one question. How can we benefit our own consumers by adding capacityg on a noncompetitve basis, to an industry whose costs have risen because of overcapacity?
PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Weleh.
Senator, capacity is not always there to meet the needs on peak demand days. CommonWea1th Edison has often explained that during the summer months tbeir generatlon capacity ls at its maximum. The question, think: that shauld be posed, is whether we in the State want to create energy sources that are 162 SYATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCZIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 nonpolluting, that are more relfable than those we currently have. I think that hydroelectric power is something we should be developlng. It's a source of energy that we need. Power can be wheeled not just within Illinois but also outside the State of Illinois. And it's a source of enersy for which, basically, we just Went to War in the Persian Gulf to secure as Well.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Well: Senator, I have no problem with developing other sources of energy that don't pollute. But what I do have a problem with is doing that on the basis in which you put the burden on the exkstîn: power companies. If you Want to go out and develop hydroelectric powery be my guest. Love to have you do it. But don't pu* the burden on the back of the people tbat are in the business already, so that we, who are gonsumerse are going to end up paying far morey as we have in the past, because Welre going to pay for capacity that isn't needed. That -- that capacity that's being generated is not qoing to be sold on a competitive price. You are forcin: those very same people to buy that on a fixed price.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Further discussion? Senator Macdonald.
Yes/ Madam President. I rise in strong opposition to thts piece of legislation. SenaEor DeAngelis has explained very well why thàs ls not a good bill at this particular time. One more time, it will mandate that the existing utility payers will have to pay for this particular neW experiment as well. For many, many reasons: I just think that this is a very poor idea, and 1'm sure that there are probably other speakers who will want to also speak in opposition to this bill. But I think this is a bad way to qo l63 STATE OF ILLTNOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 at khis particular time. And I urge a No vote on this piece of legislation.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Maitland. Further discussion? Senator Davidson.
Madam President and Members of the Senate, I rise in support of this legislation. Now everybody talks about excess capacity and all that malarkey, but for some reason, utility companies already have plans either before or have made indications, they want the ICC, the Illinois Commerce Commission, to grant them permission to increase their capacity by several umpteen million watts by the year 2000, while they dre trying to tell us right now they 're sufficient. Another point in this bill Which you a1l supported, wbich I appreckated, Was an amendment that put on here last week that Will put additional money into the Clean Coal Technoloqy Fund that will allow the opportunity for more development, produce electricity from coal Illinois coal, and it will burn clean and meet the clean -- the Federal Clean Air Act. This ts a good b111. 1'd appreckate a Yes vote.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Purther discussion? Senator Geo-xaris.
Well, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate -- Madam President, I#m sorry. Let's not k1d ourselves. We dve got to look ahead for for more energy resources. And I think this would be a qood energy resource. And I -- T'm -- I speak favor of the billp and urge your support of ie. PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR COLLTNS) Senator Ralph Dunn.
Thank you, Madam President. I know the bill tried to make it look better by putting on a ten percent of the revenue collected l64 STATE 0P ILLINOIS 87th GESERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 will go to the Coal Technology Assistance Fund. But I think what the bill doesn't say is that we generate eleetricity uith hydroelectric, we don 't generake it With coal. We don't help our coal industry. We don't help an industry that's really troubled in Illinois. And I think it might be a good idea if we voted this bill down and vote No, and look at it further before we pass it. Thank you.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator J.J. Joyce.
Thank you, Madam Chairman. I -- Senator Dunn, Ilm a little bit surprksed to hear you say that. You knowy some of us from Central Illinois have voted for every coal bill that comes down the pike. So, if if youfre telling us that wefre supposed to you're supposed to just abandon us to take care of Illinois coal, I think youdre sadlg mistaken, And I would urge everybody from my part of Illinois - across the midsection and further north to vote for this bill, and -- and to take a look at some eoal bills the next time they come up.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Rigney.
Question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) He indicates he will yield. SENATOR RIGNEYI Can you tell me how many of these water-generating plants we have currently?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Welch.
At most, at this time, We have two or three . 165 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20: 1991
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Rigney.
HoW many did we have years ago, When this was at its peak?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Welch.
I'm not sure what you mean - when it was at its peak. What -- What do you mean?
Well 1 -- I see a 1ot of these facëltttes that are just: you know, theydve been given up. And I just wonder how many of those Were -- did we have at one time? I guess maybe I just simply make my point in saying, you know, we did have this technology at one time. We obviously abandoned it. It must not bave been too efficient or somethinq. And I just kind of wonder why wedre baek re-inventing the wheel at this time.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Weleh, Eo close.
Well, Senator Rigney, the reason We abandoned it was because a 1ot of people fell in love with nuclear power about fifteen years ago, and ke Went on that binge. What this bill is trying to do is to go back and ftnd a source of energy that is nonpollutins. As far as the cost, we dve hear a lot of hullabaloo about how mueh this is going to eost. Well. our estimates are -- i: wl11 cost money - a1l of fifteen cents a year - fifteen cents a year. Now, When -- Senator Davidson hit the nail on the head. CommonWealth Edison is looking to increase their capacity. So you can't argue on the one hand that we've got too mueh capacity and yet have Commonwea1th Edison eome in and say, ''We11, Wedve got to increase capacity.'' Those tWo arguments contradict each other, but yet 166 STATE 0P ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislatkve Day May 20# 1991 that's what's goinq on. This is a good bill. It's 9ot a 1ot of features of jobs. It helps the coal industry. And why the coal legislators are standing up aqainst this: I'd kind of like to know myself. We just -- we just voted a couple million dollars in subsidies to coal companies here. So maybe we should take another look at that if this bill doesn't pass. Because certainly, if we lre going to be savinq consumers' money, what's good for the goose here is good for the gander. So I think that we should, perhaps, revisit that issue as well. But -- but, setting that by the wayside, this bill, on lts own merits, is a qood bill, and it's something thak should be supported. And I would urge an Aye vote.
PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) The question is, shall Senate Bill 735 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted wbo wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? Have all voted Who Wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that question, tbere are 36 Ayes, 18 voting Nayz 1 votin: Present. Having received the constitutional majority, Senate Bill 735 is declared passed. Senate Bill 740. Senator Rea. Senate Bill 753 is on the Recall List. Senate Bill 756. Senator Brookins. Senate Bilk 757. Senator Ekheredge. Read the bill: Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 757. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of khe bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Etheredge.
Thank you very much, Madam President and Ladies and Gentlemen of *he Senate. This is the first of a series of four bills introduced at the request of the Illinois Aleoholism and Drug l67 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Leqislative Day May 20, 1991 Dependence Assoeiation. And what this bill does is this particular bill does -- is to further define what is meant by ''intervention services.'' would be happy to respond to any questions.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Further discussion? Discussion? If not, the question is, shall Senate Bill 757 pass. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted Who Wlsh? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that question, khere are 56 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. Having received the constitutional majority, Senate Bill 757 is declared passed. With leave, Wefll go back to 756. Senator Brookins didn't hear. So, on the Order of 3rd Reading, Senate Bill 756. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 756. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Readin: of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Brookins.
Thank you, Madam President. This bill creates a Homeless dsicl Prevention Pund, and serves as a depository for al1 monies appropriated under the Act and federal reimbursement qualkfication. And there's no oppositkon to it as I know of. And I ask for a Do Pass.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Diseussion? If not: the question isy shall Senate Bill 556 <slc> pass. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted kho Wish? Have a1l voted who Wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that question, there are 56 Ayes. none Nay no Nays, none 168 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMHLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRTPT 29th Legkslatkve Day May 20r 1991 voting Present. Havinq received a constitutional majority, Senate Bill 756 mean 756 is declared passed. Senate Bi11 758. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 758. (Seeretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Etheredge. SENATOR ETHEREDGEI Thank you, Madam President and Members. This bill would require the Department of Alcohol and Substance Abuse to coordinate, among a11 State agencies, a statewide comprehensive plan for the preventkon, intervention, and treatment of substance abuse. IId be happy to respond to any questions.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Any further discussion? If not: the question is, shall Senate Bill 758 pass. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary . On that question, there are 58 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. Having received'a constitutional majority, Senate Bill 758 is declared passed. Senate Bill 759. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.
senate Bk11 759. (Seeretary reads title of bill) 3rd Readlnq of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Etheredge.
Thank youe Madam President and and Members. This bill l69 STATE QF ILLINQIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legistative Day May 20, 1991 contains a redefinition of alcoholism in order to further clarify what that means, and also its impact on dependents within a family.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATYR COLLINS) . Discussion? If not: the question is, shall Senate Bill -- Senator Leverenz.
Would the sponsor yield to a couple of quick questions?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) He indicates he will yield.
Could you give us some examples of how this would expand the current law that we are serving people through the Department by?
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Etheredge.
It does not expand the -- the definition. It merely clarifies it. Senator.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Leverenz.
It oeems that it should now include the co-dependents. But it allows khem to redefine and expand: as I understand it. Idm readin: from the synopsis on Page 181.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Etheredge.
Well, Senator, it's -- my understanding is that what ehis bill does is to simply bring the Statutes up to date on what treatment professionals have agreed upon for -- for some years - that it is really not an expansion behind current practice.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) 170 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRTPT 29th Legkslative Day May 20, 1991 Senator Leverenz.
Wett then, would you nod your head if youdre going to call Senate Bill 760, which may have a -- an impact to the State of about a billion, eight hundred thousand?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Etheredge. Further discussion? If notz Senator Etheredge, to close.
I would ask for a favorable roll call.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) The question is/ shall Senate Bill 759 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that questiony there are Ayes, no Nays, none votinq Present. Having received a constitutional majority, Senate Bill 759 is declared passed. Senate Bill 760. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill. SECRETARX HAWKERI Senate Bill 760. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Etheredge.
Thank you very much. Madam Presldent and Members. WhaE Ehis bill does is to clarify those instances when the when treatment ean be refused to persons who are unable to pay. It was suqgested by one of my colleagues a few minutes ago that thete might be a very severe fiscal impaet in this bill. Actually the reverse is true. What this bill does is to recognize the need for treatment services to addicted persons, but it also recognizes that there is l71 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENEDAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSIOH SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 a limited amount of public funds available for these serviees. And khe bill assures thak providers will accept nonpaying patients if there's enough public funds to pay for the treatment.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) The question is, shall Senate Btll 760 pass. Discussion? Senator Leverenz.
And can you give us some idea of the cost or impact to local agencies that deliver the service, inasmuch as this mandates those agencies to do the work, even though we do not appropriate the money to them, as I understand it?
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Etheredge.
Exactly the opposite is true, Senator. Tbere is zero fiscal impaet.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATUR COLLINS) Senator Leverenz.
Can we get, from the Department, that statement? Because understand the Whole package is contingent on What we appropriate. And you are noW manèatinj that upon local agencies. So, wedll be over to get it. Thank you.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) The question is, shall Senate Bill 760 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open . Have al1 voted Who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that question, there are 54 Ayes, Nays, none ' voting Present. Havinq received a constitutional majority, Senate Bill 760 is declared passed. Senate Bill 790. Senator Cullerton. Senate Bi1l 795. Senator Cullerton. Senate 9il1 797. Senator Berman. Senate Bill 98 172 STATE OF ILLTNOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legkslative Day May 20, 1991 798 is on the Reeall List. Top of Page 22. Senate Bill 828. Senator Mahar. Senate -- Senate Bill 832 is on the Recall List . Senate Bill 836. Senator Jacobs. Senate Bill 868. Senator Pawell. Senate Bill 873. Senator Etheredge. Senate Bill 882. Senator Topinka. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 882. (Seeretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Topinka.
Yes. Madam Presidents Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, this particular bill would allow any suburban Cook County school district to withdraw from the jurisdiction of their respective kownship school trustees and treasurers. It is very -- well, it's not similar - it's exactly the same as what Senator Berman passed last year for the City of Evanston. And We are just basically expandin: on that.. We have checked in terms of what the committee asked in terms of if this bill should pass, would there be a logical listing of how to make this transition. And that, indeed, does track the Berman Bill. It is laW noW. And I Would ask for your favorable vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) The question is, shall Senate Bill 882 pass. Any discussion? senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: I reluctantly rise in opposition, because I do believe there's need to make some chanqes in the system. Howeverg khis one is rather radical, and either through some misunderstanding on my part or the sponsor's part: I felt some amendments were forthcoming. There is a bill coming over from the House khich l73 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislatkve Day May 20, 1991 will, in fact, make this job optional. But I think this is a wholesale destruction of a system which has had merit. Althou:h may have had some excesses, many of the smaller school distriets have benefited from this position. So would reluctantly rise in opposition to this.
PRESIDENT OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Further discussion? Senator Rock.
Thank you, Madam President: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I rise in opposition without any reluctance and pretty much Eor the same reason that Senator Dehngelks did . There is a - - this -- this subject has been long under discussion, and there is, I am told, a bill that either is here or is on the way here from the House that Will afford some orderly transition for these boards witb respeet to these trustees. This/ I suggestz is much too radical an approach. We did deal with this, Senator Berman, if you will reeall, with respect to Evanston . Representatkve Giglio has a bill that's on its way here, or perhaps is here already, that 1 understand some can ltve with. This one, I would suggest, *e may well be better advised to either vote No or let sit here on the Calendar. And I Would urge the sponsor to consider that.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator 'opknka, to close.
Yes, Madam President and Ladies and Genklemen of the Sena*e . My concern would be that if indeed we kent with the House bill and its rather interestin: provisions on how to set from Point A to Point B, which are rather complicated and really may be different than what is already in place already from the Berman bill of last Session affeeting the City of Evanston. The City of Evanston has already been on this program one yearr and eivilization has hardly 174 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Leqislative Day May 20# 1991 fallen. 6o it's not particularly a radieal concept at all. In fact, this does not make local schools pull out from their township school treasurers. just gives them the option for doin: so, if indeed they wish to do so. And certainly in the West suburban areas, also with ED-RED, The State Board of -- or the Illinois School Board Association. They're al1 in support of this particular option as well. would contend that the 1aw now eontends, or now putè forward, a -- a progression of how to make this process occur. It is working. Let's qo for PRESIDING OPFICER) (SENATOR COLLINS) The question is# shall Senate Bill 882 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposedg Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have a1l voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. Gn that questionz there are 22 Nays -- 22 Ayes, 25 Nays, 6 voting Present. Having failed to reeeive a constitukional majority, Senate Bill 828 <sic> is declared lost. 882. The sponsor is requesting Postponed Consideratlon. Senate Bill 895. Senator Woodyard. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 895. (Secrekary reads title of bill) 3rd Readin: of the bill.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Senator Woodyard.
Thank you, Madam Presidentz Members of the Senate. This is the Regulatory Retaliation Bi11 so-called because it would impose regulatory reporting on institutions out of state domiciled out of state - that are doing financial business in the State of Illinois. And it's in response to the fact that some of the states, particularly Indiana, are adopting franchise taxes STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20 , 1991 imposing taxes on Illinois financial institutions. And We have no other recourse other than to try to impose some kind of retaliation on them to get them, hopefully, to repeal their types of bills. I don't know tbat this bill is going to do that. But we would like to move it along and keep it alive and -- and continue some dialogue with particulary the State of Indiana, to see if we can't get some relief for our financial institutions on which those taxes are imposed.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR COLLINS) Further discussion? Senator Jacobs.
Thank you, Mr. -- Madam President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. 1, too: stand in support of this legislation. If -- if we're going to get our full day in court, this has got to continue on. And I think it stands to reason that it may not be everythlng we're looking for, but sure as heck is a nice equalizer. And I stand in support of the legislation.
Any further discussion? Furthet...discussion? Senator Woodyard, do you wish to close? Tbe question is, shall Senate Bill 895 pass. Thobe in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have all voted Who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Take the record. 0n that question, there are 56 Ayes: no Nays, none voting Present. Senate Bill 895, having reeeived the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Ladies and Gentlemeng Eenator Philip and I have determined we're going to be ouL of here by s1x o 'clock. So *e will, with leave oe the Bodyr stop now and go to the Order of Reeallb. A list of recalls has been distributed. would ask you to pay just particular attention to the amendments as they are offered. We will try to handle this as expeditiously as possible, with the hope that We will conclude our business by l76 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 six o'clock. We will start again tomorrow morning on the Order of 2nd Reading and then again Mo to 3rd Reading and take up , Senator Rigney, right where we left off, at Senate Bill 922. We Wil1 start tomorrow morning at nine o'clock in the morning, Ladies and Gentlemen. And I would encourage everybody to be prompt. There has been one change in the earlier-announced schedule, and that is at the request of the Appropriations Chairman and Minority Spokesman, We will not handle the appropriation bills until Wednesday morning. They are still conferring about amendments. The Governor has called for a meeting on Wednesday afternoon. So we will handle the appropriation bills - the Senate appropriation bills - on Wednesday morning, first thing. And then, of eourse, we have the Memorial Day observation and also the Agreed Bill Lkst. So'tomorrow We -- We Will start on Senate Bllls 2nd Reading and then move immediately to Senate Bills 3rd Reading and take up where we left off. In the meantime, wedre going to go to the Order of Recalls. Everybody has received, I hope, a recall sheee. Al1 right. Wefre still on the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading. We will, with leave of the Bodyz revert to Page '17. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 90. Senator Davidson seeks leave of that Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 90, Madam Secretary.
Amendment No. offered by Senator Davkdson.
Senator Davidson, on Amendment No.
Mr. President and Members of the Senate, Amendment No. l is an agreed-on amendment that came out of discussion at the hearing - at the eommittee hearing - on this bill and by the individual l77 STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 private bus company owners *ho furnish bus transportation. This is an agreed-on amendment between them, the regional superintendent's office, the State Board of Education and the State Police. I move the adoption of Amendment No. 1.
Senator Davidson has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 90. Discussion? Senator Demuzio.
Thank you, Mr. President.
A11 right. Ladies and Gentlemen, please. We -- We are attempting to aecommodate everyone. At the same time, would ask you please to pay attention. Senator Demuzio.
Well, thank you, Mr. President. Senator Davidsony did I hear you say that you are exempting out the private bus carriers from this fingerprinting bill?
Senator Davidson.
No. They Wanted a temporary driving permit issued while they waited for the report to come back. And that's what this does. lets the regional superintendent issue a school bus driver a temporary permit, on a probationary basis, while the -- the flngerprinting report comes back from b0th the State Police and/or the FBI.
Further discussion on Amendment No. 1? If not, all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?
Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Davidson. 178 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
Senator Davidson, on Amendment No. 2.
Mr. President# this amendment is a technical amendment that Enrolling and Engrossingîs found us from the Reference Bureau. And it changes -- puts in the word ''the'' before -- instead of the word ''such.'' I'd move the adoption of Amendment No.
Senator Davidson has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 90. Diseussion? If not, a1l in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposèd. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted . Further amendments?
No further amendments.
3rd Reading. Top of Page l8. On the Order of Senaee Bllls 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 203. Senator Schaffer seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to tbe Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading: Senate Bill 203, Madam Secretary.
Amendment No. offered by Senator Schaffer.
Senator Schaffer, on Amendment No. 2. SENATOR SCHAFFER; Mr. President, this amendment was requested by the Township Officials of Illinois, and it just would require the mail notice in the bill to be done by registered mail.
Senator Schaffer has.moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 203. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by l79 STATE OP ILLINOTS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Leqislative Day May 20, 1991 saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendmentds adopted. Further amendments?
No further amendments.
3rd Readinç. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Readings aqain on Page l8, is Senate Bill 222. Senator Topinka seeks leave of tbe Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Readin: for purposes of an amendmeht. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bklls 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 222, Madam Secretary.
Amendment No. l offered by Senator Topinka. PRESIDENT ROCK) Senator Topinka: on Amendment Ho. 1.
Yes, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, this amendment Would clarify that vehicles owned and operated by units of local qovernment are exempt from the requirements of the bill.
Senator Topinka has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 222. Discusslon? If not, a1l in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKERJ No further amendments.
3rd Readinq. Top of Page l8. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 232. Menator Neleh seeks leave of the Body to return that bill Eo the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave ls granted. On the l80 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading. Senate Bill 232: Madam Secretary.
Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Welch.
Senator Welch.
Thank you, Mr. President. The original bill created a Task Force on Environmental Laws. The reporting date in thpt bill Was June 30th, 1992. What this amendment does is change the reporting date to April 1, 19924, so that any recommendations of the Task Force could be enaeted into law. I would move the adoption of this amendment.
Senator Welch has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 232. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by sayin: Aye. All öpposed. The Ayes have 1t. The amendmentls adopted . Are there further amendments?
No further amendments.
3rd Reading. 2-4-8. Senator Berman. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading, Senate Bill 248. Senator Berman seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted . On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 248, Madam Secretary .
Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Berman.
Senator Berman.
18l STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20y 1991 Thank you: Mr. President. This amendment assures the confidenttality of the siblinqs that are included in khe bill, pursuant to my commitment to Senator Hawkinson. I move *he adoption of Amendment No. --
3.
3.
Senator Berman has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 248. Discussion? If not, all in favor: indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?
Amendment Ho. 4 offered by Senator Berman.
Senator Berman, on Amendment No. 4.
withdraw that ae this time.
Amendment's been kithdrawn, Madam Secretary. 257. A1l righk. With leave of tbe Body, Senator Dudycz Will handle that amendment for me. Leave has been sought to return Senate Bill 257 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendmenk. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 257. My understanding, Madam Secretaryr is we have to Table Committee Amendment No. l and offer No. 2 in its place. Senator Dudycz: having voted on the prevailing side' moves to reconsider the vote by which Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 257 was adopted. All in favor of the Motion to Reconsider: indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. %he Ayes have it. The vote's reconsidered. Senator Dudycz now moves to Table 182 STATE 01 ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX RZGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20# 1991 Committee Amendment No. to Senate Bill 257. A1l in favor of :he Motion to Table: indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's Tabled. Further amendments?
Amendment No. 2 offered by President Rock.
With leave of the Body, Senator Dudycz will handle it. Senator Dudycz.
Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 2 eorreces a technical error that kas in Amendment No. 1. ask a favorable vote.
Senator Dudycz has moved to adopt Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bi1l 257. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendmentls adopted. Are there further amendments?
No further amendments. PRESIDaNT ROCK: 3rd Reading. Senator Cullertonz on 293. Senator Cullerton. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading, middle of Page l8w is Senate Bi1l 293. Senator Cullerton seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Btlls 2nd Readin: is Senate Bill 293, Madam Secretary.
Amendment No. l offered by Senators Woodyard and Barkhausen.
Senator Woodyard yields to Senator Barkhausen. Senator Barkhausen. Senator Barkhausen. Why don't you move next door to Senator Weaverds. That -- that one's not used enough anyway . l83 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLV RECULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Senator Barkhausen.
Do a poor imitation of Senator Weaver here. I'm tempted to yield to Senator Cullerton. Senator Woodyard and I have our name on this amendment, and we know little about the bill. I'm not on *he eommittee. My understanding is that this amendment comes from the Secretary of State's Office and delays the effective date, or the compliance datee somewhat, for those who Would come under the jurisdiction of this law. It I've somehow misrepresented ehis bill or amendment, Senator Cullerton has an amendment to follow. PRESIDENT ROCKk Sponsor indicates he agrees. senator Barkhausen moves the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senaee Bill 293. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicate by sayin: Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have àt. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?
Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Cullerton.
Senator Cullerton, on Amendment No. 2.
Thank you, Mr. Pzesident. This amendment clarifies that the statement shall be only de 'llvered to individuals, not to financial institutions and related entlties. I move for its adoption.
Senator Cullertonds moved tbe adoption of Amendment No. 2 to senate Bill 293. Discussion? not, a11 ln favor, indicate by sayinq Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?
ko further amendments' .
3rd Reading. 460, the sponsor has indicated, does not wish to l84 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 recall at this time. 468. Bottom of Page l9. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 468. Senator Collins has - - requests leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 468, Madam Secretary.
Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Collins.
Senator Collins.
Thank you. This amendment merely adds to this task force the State Appellate Defender's Office: which they requested that they be included in the bill, and also addsz by inserting juvenile disposition after the word sentencing. And -- and the rest of is technical, and I would move for its adoption.
Senator Collins has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 468. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by Eaying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?
No further amendments.
3rd Reading. Bottom of Page 19, on the Order of Senake Bills 3rd Reading. Senate Bi11 49l -- 471. I beg your pardon. Senator Collins seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is qranted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 471, Madam Secretary.
Amendment No. offered by Senator Collins. 185 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GEHERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislakive Day May 20, 1991
Senator Collins, on Amendment No. 2.
ïes. This is a technical amendment discovered by Enrolling and Engrossing. And I would move for its adoption.
Senator Collins has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 471. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopked. Are there further amendments?
No further amendments.
3rd Reading. If I can direet your attention, Ladies and Gentlemen, to Page 32 on the Calendar. Of course: I'm sure youdre all aware that once a bill is on the Agreed Bill List and then amended, it eomes off thei Agreed Bill List. Senator Saviekas seeks leave of the Body, bottom of Page 32. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd.Reading, Senator Savickas seeks leave of'the .Bcdy to return Senate Blll 556 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 556, Madam Secretary.
Amendment No. 2 bffered by Senator Savickas.
Senator Savickas.
Xes. Mr. President, this amendment was drafted for the Real Estate Board and the Realtors: and basically allows property owners to enter into an agreement With a broker and enables the broker to file a lien that insures the broker to get his 186 STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 commission. Tbe bill, as amended, protects the Real Estate Board and the Realtors against the sale of the building or default. And with that, I think makes it the same bill that was in the House. And I Would move its adoption. PRESIDENT R0C#2 Senator Savickas has moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 5-5-6. Discussion? Senator Jones.
Yes. Thank you, Mr. President. Will the sponsor yield?
sponsor indicates he will yield, Senator Jones.
Senator Savickas, we'amended this bill in committee, and that was -- the amendment was an agreed-amendment with the Realtors' Assoctation and those persons also concerned. Now this is another amendment. Now this amendment that you have here - has the Realtors aqreed to this amendment, Icause it does make substantial changes. And staff has n6t had a chance to sive me the background on what's in this amendment, because it ehanqes the bill in many areas. so could you tell us about that or was this agreed to likewise?
Senator Savickas.
Xes, Mr. President. In my earlier remarks, I said that it Was - - this amendment Was put in at the request of tbe Real Estate Board and the Realtors. And further refines the language between the parties. Evidently, tbe Real Estate Board and the brokers had a few concerns about the language in the original amendment. They drafted this to refine khe language. And that Was the purpose of it.
187 STATE GF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Further discussion? Senator Hawkinson.
Thank you, Mr. President. Will the sponsor yield for a question?
Sponsor indicates he w1ll yleld, Senator Hawkinson.
Senator, is this still limited to commercial property? PRESIDENT ROCEI Senator Savickas. SENATOR SAVICKAS: As far as I know, it is.
Further discussion? Any further discussion? If not, Senator Savickas has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 556. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed: vote Nay. The voting is -- whoops. All in favor of the adoption of the amendment, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. ' Purther amendments?
No further aaendments.
3rd Reading. Page 33 on the Calendar. The bottom of Page 33. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Readlngg on the Agreed Bill Llst, is Senate Bill 621. Senator Madigan seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readingw Senate Bill 623, Madam Secretary.
Amendment No. l offered by Senator Madigan.
Senator Madigan, on Amendment No. 188 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SZSSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legkslative Day May 20, 1991
Thank you, Mr. President. Could I ask the Secrekary What the last two diqits of that amendment are?
Madam Secretary.
0-1.
Yeah. Okay.
Could I move to withdraw Amendment No. 1?
You may indeed. That amendment's withdrawn ak the request of the sponsor: Madam Secretary. Any amendmenks?
Amendment No. l offered by Senator Madigan.
Senator Madigan.
Thank youy Mr. President. Amendment No. narrows the seope of the blll and is agreed to by the interested parties involved. And I would move for its adoption.
Senator Madlqan's moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 623. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by sayin: Aye. A1l opposed. Tbe Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER; No furEher amendments.
3rd Reading. We revert now: Ladies and Gentlemen, to Page 20. Paqe 20 on the Calendar. At the bottom of Paqe 20, on the Order 189 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSCMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20# 1991 of Senaee Bills 3rd Readknq, is Senate Bill 641. Senator Watson seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave qranted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 641, Madam Secretary. SZCRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Watson. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Watson, on Amendment No. 2. SENATOR WATSOS; Thank you, Mr. Presldent. This now becomes the bill and tries to clarify the intent of the legislation which wedre allowing for marching band students to be exempted for -- from physical education for the first semester. What this says is that they have to be enrotled in band. receiving credit for a band proqram. I move for its adoption. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Watson has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to . Sqnate B&ll 641.. Discussion? If not, a11 in favory indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: No further amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: 3rd Reading. Bottom of Page 20. 0n the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is genaEe Bi11 645. Senator Ralph Dunn seeks leave of the Body eo return that bill to the Order of 2nd Readin: for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readinq is Senate Bill 645, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWXER: Amendment No . 1 offered by Senator Ralph Dunn. 190 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20# 1991
Senator Dunn. SENATOR R. DUNN ) Thank thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Qhis makes the bill apply to only one community. It Was a desire of the Elementary and Secondary Committee -- that I do that: and I inadvertently let the bill move to 3rd, so I returned it for this amendment. I move its adoption.
Senator Watson 's I mean Senator Dunn has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 840 -- 645. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Eurther amendments?
Amendment No. offered by Senator Ralph Dunn.
Senator Dunn.
Thank you.. This.gives the bill an immediate effeetive datez and I move its adoption.
Senator Dunn moves ehe adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 840 -- 645. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopeed. Purther amendments?
No further amendments. PRESIDENT ROCKI 3rd Reading. Middle of Page On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Readin: is Senate Bill 753 - 7-5-3. Senator Watson seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Readin: for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 753, Madam Secretary.
Amendment No. l offered by Senator Watson.
Senator Watson.
Thank you, Mr. President. This amendment was requested by the Illinois State Police. And it returns the ability of truck Weight inspectors to write citations for trucks which are overweight on their registration plates. The amendment's supported by the Department of Transportation, the Midwest Truckers and the Illinois Truckin: Association. move for its adoption.
Senator Watson has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 753. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposèd. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?
No further amendments.
3rd Readinq. Bottom of Page 21. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 798. Senator Berman seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is qranted. On *he Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 798, Madam Secretary.
Amendment No. offered by Senator Berman.
Senator Berman, on Amendment No. 1. l92 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day Aay 20. 1992
A1l that this amendment does is to correct, at the request of the Legislative Reference Bureau, to insert a period after the word ''act.'' I move the adoption of Amendment No. -- PRESIDEN; ROCK: 1.
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Senator Berman has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 798. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by sayin: Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?
No further amendments.
3rd Reading. 832. Senator Jacobs. At the top of Page 22, Ladies and Gentlemen. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 832. Senator Jacobs seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Readin: for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 832, Madam Secretary.
Amendment No. ofrerèd by Senator Jacobs.
EenaEor Jacobs, on Amendment No.
Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This amendment merely fulfills the request of Senator Watson ln committee to regionalize the changes that we made in Senate Bill 832. And thatfs al1 it döes.
l93 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 Senator Jacobs has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 832. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indieate by sayin: Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendmentfs adopted. Further amendmepts?
No further amendments.
3rd Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading, on the Agreed Bill List, Page 40 - 4-0 - Page 40 on the Calendar, is Senate Bill 1066. Senator Berman seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Readin: for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? On the -- leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1066, Madam Secretary . SECRETARY HAWKERI Amendment No. l offered by Senator Berman.
Senator Berman.
Thank you. This -- this amendment clarifies the intent of the bill as to the filing of the report. Provides for twenty-eight days after receipt of the report in the mail. Move the adoption of Amendment No.
Senator Berman has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to senate Bill 1066. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?
No further amendments.
3rd Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is 194 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20# 1991 Senate Bill 1119. Bottom of Page 23. Page 23# Ladies and Gentlemen. Senator Madàgan seeks leave of the Body to return 1119 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is qranted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1119, Madam Secretary.
Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Madigan.
Senator Madigan, on Amendment No. 2.
Thank you, Mr. Piesident. Amendment No. 2 is an amendment requested by Enrolling and Enqrossin: to correct a couple typographical errors. And I would move for its adoption.
Senator Madigan's moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 1119. Discussion? If not: all in favor: indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendmentls adopted. Are there further amendments?
No further amendments.
3rd Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 1125, on the Agreed Bill List. Page 41 -- Page on the Calendar. The top of Page 41 is Senate Bill 1125. Senator Brookins seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1125, Madam Secretary.
Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Brookins.
Senator Brookins, on Amendment No. 2. l95 STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY XEGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991
Mr. President, first I must Table Amendment No. So I have to have leave to Table Amendment No. 1, because it is flawed.
All right. Senator Brookins, having voted on the prevailing side, is moving to reconsider the vote by which Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1125 Was adopted. All in favor of the Motion to Reconsidery indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have The motion carries. The vote is reconsidered. Senator Brookin: now moves to Table Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senake Bill 1125. Discussion on the Motion to Table? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have Amendment No. l is Tabled. Further amendments, Madam Secretary?
Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Brookins.
Senator Brookins.
Amendment No. is the same as Amendment No. 1, only thing is it is technically eorreet. It was pointed out by the LRB that it was ineorreet. So I ask to adopt Amendment No. 2.
Senator Brookins has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 1125. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor: indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopked. Purtber amendmenEs?
No further amendments.
3rd Reading. Top of Page 24. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Readin: is Senate Bill 1200. Senator Severns seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Readin: for 196 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1200, Madam Secretary.
Amendment No. 1 offerèd by Senator Severns.
Senator Severns, on Amendment No. 1. SENATOR SEVERNS; Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Amendment No. l simply increases the percentage from a hundred and ten percent to a hundred and twenty-five percent.
Senator Severns moves the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 1200. Discussion? If noty al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopeed. Further amendments?
No further amendmepts.
3rd Reading. 1202, the Chair understands, has been withdrawn. 1408. Senator Berman. Middle of Page 25y Ladies and Gentlemen. On the Order of Senat% Bills 3rd Readin: is Senate Bill 1408. Eenator Berman seeks leave of khe Body to return that bill the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readinq, Senaee Bill 1408, Madam Seeretary.
Amendment No. l offered by Senator Berman. PRESIDENT R0CR: Senator Berman, on Amendment No.
Thank you, Mr. President. Thls is a Legislative Reference 197 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legkslative Day May 20, 1991 Bureau bill. Theydve asked that We adopt Amendment No. 1 and that this bill remain on 2nd Reading. So -- it deals With the Criminal Code Recodification. I move the amendment -- move Amendment No. on Senate Bill 1408.
Senat/r Berman has moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 1408. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendmehts?
No fuïther amendments.
All right. The bill will remain, at the request of the sponsor, on the Order of 2nd Reading, With the amendment adopted. Ladies and Gentlemen, that concludes the recalls. We have a number of housekeeping items. We have effectively finished our roll calls for today. Welve done a good day fs work. Tomorrow 's goinq to be even lonqer. We'll start at nine o'clock in the morning and we will continue through Senate Bkl1s'2nd and 3rd. Resolutions, Mr. Secretary.
ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) Senate Resolution 390 offered by Senator Jones. Senate Resolutioh 39l offered by Senator Maftland. Senate Resolution 392, by Senator Savickas. Senate Resolution 393, by Senator Savickas. As is Senate Resolution 394, 395, 396. Senate Resolution 397, by Senator Mahar. Senate Resolution 398, by Senator Watson. Senate Resolutioh 399 offered by Senator Geo-Karis. Knd Senate Resolution 400 offered by SenatoE Ralph Dunn. Theydre a11 congratulatory and death resolutions.
198 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 29th Legislative Day May 20: 1991 Consent Calendar. ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) Senate Resolution 40l offered by Senator Philip. : Senate Resolution 402 offered by Senator Woodyard. And Senate Resolution 403 offered by Senators Ralph Dunn, O'Daniel, Rea and Watson. They're a11 substantive. PRESIDENT ROCK: Executive. With leave of the Body, as long -- and I would again encourage the Membership, the House is due to go into E session at six o'tlock. That's why we're going to quit at six. But I'm sure some of the Members have asked the Senate to sponsor some of their House Bills. Please 1et the Secretary or the Assistant Secretary know. In the meantime, with leave of the Body, we'll move aqain to Page 45 on the Calendar. It just makes the clerical work upstairs easier. We '1l move to the Order of House Bills 1st Reading, Mr. Secretary. Rouse Bills lsto ACTING SECRETARY: (kR. HAKRY) : House Bill 98 offered by Senator Demuzio. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill l04 offered by Senator Rea. (secretary reads title of bill) senate Bill -- or House Bill 2l5 offered by Senator Demuzio. (secretary keads title of bill) J House Bill 266 offered by Senator Demuzio. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 738 offered by Senator Carroll. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1105 offered by Sena*or Luft. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1230, by Senator Jacobs. (Secretary reads title of bill) l99 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 29th Legislative Day May 20, 1991 House Bill 1303, by Senator Mahar. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1571, by Senator Hall. (Secretary reads title of bi11) House Bill 1797, by Senator Carroll. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2017 offered by Senators Smith and Jacobs. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2110 offered by Senator Thomas Dunn. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2206, by Senator Woodyard. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2410, by Senator D'Arco. (Secretary reads title of bill) And House Bill 2413 offered by Senator Topinka. (Secretary reads title of bill) 1st Readin: of the bills.
Is there any .fureher business? Further announcements to come before the Senate in its regular Session? If not, Senator Kelly moves that the Senate stand adjourned until nine o'clock on Tuesday, May 2l. Nine o 'clock tomorrow morningy Ladies and Gentlemen. I've asked everybody to be prompt. Nine o 'clock tomorrow morning. Have a good evening. Senate stands adjourned. 200 REPORTZ TIFLDAY STASE G9 ItLIQ0ïS 91/08/19 PAGEZ 0O1 87TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY 151#1:34 SEN/TE DAILY TRANSCRIPTION 0F ùEB/TE INDEX @AY 2ô* :991 FIRS: READING FIRST READfNG FIRST READING FIRST REAOING FIRST REAOING FIRST READING FIRST Rë;0l<G FIRST READING FIRST REAJING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIAST READING FIRST REAOING FIRST READING FIRST REAOING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIRST REAûING FIRST REAOING FIRST REAOING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIRSI READING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIRSI READING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIRSY READING FIRZT READING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIRST REAOING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIRST REAOING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIRST RFADING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIRST RfA9ING FIRST READING FIRST REAUING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIRST READING FIRST RE4DING FIRST READIRG FIRST READING FIRST REAOING THIR: READING SECOND READING 6 !! 1 . : REPORTZ TIFLDAY STATE OF ILLIROIS 91/08/:9 PAGE: O02 87TH GENERAL ASSE/IMLY 15:41:34 SENATE DgIL#TRANSCRIPTIONDF DEBATE IRDEX j 8AY 204 1991 THIRD READING THIRD READING THIRD READING THIRD READIRG SECLN: READING SECQND READING RECALLED THIRD READING THIRD READING THIRD READING THIRD REAOING SECOND READTNG THIRD READING THIRO READING THIRD REAOING RECALLEO SECQND READING QECALLED SEEeND REAOING RECALLED THIRO REAOING RECALLED RECALLEO SECDND READTNG THIRO REAOING RECALLED THIRD REAOING SECGND READING THIRD READIRG THIRD READING THIRD READING THIRD READING POSTPONEO CDNSIDERATION THIRO READING RECALLED RECALLED THIRD REAOING SECQND READING THIRD REAOING SfûotjD READING TABLED SECOND READING REUALLED THIRD REAöING SEZDND READING SECQND READING THIRD READING THiRD READING RECALLED RECALLED THIRD READING RECALLED SECOND READING THIRD READING THIRD READING THIRD READING PGSTPONFO.CONSJOERATION S6CDND READING SECDNO READING THIRO READfRG SECOND READING RECALLED THIRD READIàG THIRO READING .q. 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DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF àEBAIE INDEX i 8AY 2Ov 1991 I 1 I s8-9758 THIRD READING PAG: 169 sa-cz59 THlgo REAaING pAGg l69 5 076 38-2 70 T SH EC IR CN RA PDREED AD IN IG NG P/ AGE l7 32 t 58-G798 RECALLED PJGE 192 SB-0800 SECOND READING PAGE 53 58-0830 SECOND R6ADING P/GE 34 , 58-0832 RECALLED PAGE 193 58-0865 SECOND READING PAGE 35 53-0582 THIRD READIKG PAGE l73 58-0882 POSTPSNED EONSIDERATIOK PAGE 175 58-G893 TA3LE0 PAGE 35 58-0895 THIRD READING PAGE l75 38-0905 SEEON; READING P/GE 35 SB-09t5 SEECNO RFADING PAGE 36 58-0930 SECCND READING PAG: 36 58-0933 SECOND READIRG PAGE B1 S3-Q961 SECOND READING PAGE 37 53-0965 SECOND READING PAGE 38 33-0989 SECOND READING PAGE 38 :8-0998 SECUND READING PgG6 38 SB-t:&b REEALLED PAGE l9# SB-l091 SECCNO READING P4GE #0 SB-ktk9 RECALLED PAGE 19# SB-1125 RECALLED PAGE 195 SB-t20G RECALLED PAGE 196 5:-1218 SECOND READING PAG: #1 58-:239 SECUNZ READING PAG: :2 58- :212 TABLED PAGE 1 $3-1243 XECCND READING PAGE *? 58-1270 SEEOND READING PAGE *2 58-1272 G6COND READING PAGE #3 G3-1291 SECOND READING PAGE 43. s8-1295 SECJND READING PAGE %# 58-1303 SECCND READING P4GE #7 :8-1317 SECGàD READfNG PAGE *1 SB-1317 0:T 0F RECORD PAGE *7 SB- i330 SECOND READING PAGE 48 58-1337 SECCND READING PAGE #9 . SB-l3#7 SECOND READING PAGE 50 58-1361 S6C0&D READIKG PAGE 50 58-1363 SECCND READING PAGE 54 33-:36: SECOND READING PAGE 55 53-1365 SECCND REAOING PAG6 55 SB-t39Q SEESK: READIRG PAGE 55 58- 1393 SE20ND READING PAGE 58 SB- t#0B RECALLED PAGE 197 58-1409 SECCNO READING' PJGE 58 SB- t*38 SECCND READING PAGE 59 SB-t#60 SECGNO READING PAGE 61 SR-0 - 389R 0390 ESOLUTIOQ O RESOLUTION FFEREB OFFEREG PAGE PAGE 2 t98 SR-039t RESOLUTION QFFEREO PAGE k9ô 5R-8392 RESOLUTION OFFIRE: PAGE t98 5R-0393 REGCLUTION 0FFER6D PAGE L96 sR-039# RESOLUTION SFFERED PAGE 19: 5R-0395 RESCLUTIQN CFFERED PAGE t98 5R-0396 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 198 5R-0397 RESCLUTION OFFERED PAGE 198 3R-0398 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE ï98 5:-0399 RESCLUTION OFFEREP PAGE 198 ZR-O#DO RESOLUTION OFFERED PJGE l98 SR-040t RESCLUTICN OFFERED P/GE 199 St-0#02 RESOLUTION OFFjREP PAGE 199 - - - - .. - - -. . ei ' . l xt REPORT: TIFLDAY S:AT6 OF ILLINOIS 91/c6/:9 ' PAGEI 00# 87TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY 15::1:34 SENATE ' DAILY TRANSCRIPTICN OF OEBATE INOEX . XAY 20T 1991 SR-0#03 RESOLUTION OFFNRED PAGE t99 1 S2R-0056 RESCLUTION OFFEREO PAGE 2 i SUBJEET XAYTER I i SENATE TO OROER - PRESIOENT ROCK PAGE 1 PRAYER - REV. SHOULTl PAGE 1 i JGURNAL - APPROMED PAGE 1 JEURNALS - POSTPONE: PAGE 1 NESSAGE FROH T8E HQUSE PAG: 2 KESSAGE FROM TH6 HOUSE PAGE 3 ADJOURNMERT PAGE 2oc