Illinois Senate Floor Debate — May 22, 1991

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) The hour of nine o'clock having arrived, the Senate will come to order. Our Members will be at their desks. Our guests in the gallery will please rise. Our prayer this morning ks by the Reverend Cecil Renshaw, Rochester Firse Baptist Church, Rochester, Illinois.

(Prayer by the Reverend Cecil Renshaw)

PRESIDING OFFJCER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Readin: of the Journal. Senator Kelly.

Thank you, Mr. President. move khat the readinq and approval of the Journals of Wednesday, May 15th2 Thursday, May 16th7 Monday, May 20th7 and Tuesdayy May 21st, in the year 1991, be postponed, pending arrival of the printed Journals.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Kll right. Xoudve heard the motkon as -- as placed by Senator Kelly. A1l in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Motion earried; so ordered. Messages from the House. SECRETARY HAWKER I A Message from the House by Mr. O 'Brten, Clerk. Mr. President - I am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has passed bills of the following tiEles, in tbe passage of which am instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senaee, to wit: House Bills 472, 677, 678, 882, 1696, 1891, 2050, 2078 and 2510. Passed the House, May 2l, 1991.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A11 right. With leave of the Body, wehll go to the Order of House Bills lst Readinq. House Bills 1st Reading: Madam l n  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT ' 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 1 Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKER: House Bikl 2 offered by Senator Leuhowicz. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1l9 offered by Senator Kelly. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 60l offered by Senator Holmberg. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 687 offered by Senator Philip. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bà1l 772 offered by Senator Keats. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 796 offered by Senator Holmberg. ' (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1053 offered by Senatar Keats. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1188 offered by Senator Topinka. ' (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1270 offered by Senator O'Daniel. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1283 offered by Senator Smith. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1314 offered by Senator Alexander. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1340 offered by Senator Fawell. (Secretary reads tàtle of bill) House Bill 1353 offered by Senator Donahue. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1448 offered by Senator Schaffer. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1684 offered by Senator Rarpiel. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2 %  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 House Bill 1996 offered by Senator Karpiel. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2005 cffered by Senator Luft. (Secretary reads title of b11l) House Bill 2458 offered by Senator Smith. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2558 offered by Senator Smith. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2578 offered by Senator J.J. Joyce. Xsecretary reads tftle of bikl) And House Bill 2633 offered by President Rock and Senator Demuzio. (Secretary reads title of bill) ... tmachine cutofflo..Reading of the bills.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Kelly, for What purpose do you arise?

Mr. Prestdentg I would like to request leave to have Senate Bill of which am a principal sponsor, sent back to the Senate Judiciary 11 Committee for further study.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All riqht. On Page 2 of your Calendar, Senator Kelly has requested to re-refer Senate Bill 15 back to the Committee on -- Judiciary II, Senator Kelly? A11 right. Is leave granted? Leave is granted; so ordered. With leave of the Body, wefll go to the Order of Resolutions. Resolutions.

Senate Resolution 42l and 422 offered by Senator Dudycz. Theylre both congratulatory.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Consent Calendar. WAND-TV has requested permission to shoot videos. Is leave granted? Leave is granted; so ordered .  STATE 0F ILLIHOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 . .. tmachine cutoffl... Page 2, With leave of the Body, we will - on your Calendar - we will go to the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading. Senator Rock, do we start at the top or just the appropriation bills? Senator Rock.

Thank you, Mr. President. Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, we had earlier agreed to begin this morning with the Senate Bills on 2nd Reading - the appropriation bills - and I think if ue can get throuqh those with some dispatch, we have our Memorial Service at noon. So we will do the appropriation bills on 2nd Reading and then continue on with the rest of the bills on 2nd Reading, and then move right into 3rd.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 133. Senator Carroll. 133. Madam Secretary, Senate Bill 1-3-3.

Senate Bill 1-3-3. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 258. Senator Rock. On the Order of Senate -- 281. Senator Etheredge. On the Order -- Senator Etheredge, 2813 Page 3. 301. Senator Rock. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, top of Page 3, is Genate Bill 301, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 301. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 4  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 offers Committee Amendment No .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator -- Senator Hall.

Thank you? Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This amendment reduces it to the Governor's level. I move for the adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEAUZIO) Senator Hall has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No . 1. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor wikl indicate by saying Aye. Opposedz Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. l is adopted. Further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Holmberg offers Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Holmberg.

Thank you. Mr. President. Amendment No. 2 responds to the Governor's allocations giving IMSA a percent increase over Fiscal Year '9l in their travel line item, and this amendment merely reduces that request by a total of 23.1 thousand, and puts IMSA back in line with Fiscal Year levels.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Holmberg has moved the adoption of Amendment No . l Ksic> (2). Is there discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. must rise in opposition to this amendment, and I would like to 5  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GEHERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 remlnd everyone that part of the charge of the Academy is to work with teachers and school districts around the State of Illinois in order to assist them in their efforts to improve their programs of instruction in math and science and other -- other fields as well. believe it's absolutely critical that they be able to have this money in their travel budget so that they can provide that kind of leadership.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? If not, Senator Holmber: may close.

Thank you, Mr. President. May I say to Senator Etheredge: we did talk about this, and I did check into the things you asked me to validate, and I think you would be very supportive of this in its present form . This is merely dealing with out-of-state travel. They do not plan to increase their in-state travel for the pragrams youfre talking about this year. They realize what we are doing, and they will be able to do everythin: they need to do with -- With this cutback.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Holmberg has moved the adoption of Amendment No. <sic> (2) to Senate Bill 301. Those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. Senator Holmberg, do you request a roll call? Well, in the opinion of the Chair, the -- the Nays -- the Nays have All right. Further further amendments? Senator Holmberg? Al1 right. Senator Holmberg has requested a roll call. A11 riqht. Senator Holmberq moves the adoption of Amendment No. 1 xsic> (2) to Senate Bill 301. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Have a1l voted Who Wish? Take the record. On that -- that's M endment No 2. Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 20, the Nays are 32z none voting 6  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 Present. Amendment No. 2 fails. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. If I may, for purposes of speeding up the rest of the proeess, a few openinq comments, so that When we get into other amendments, we won 't have to repeat it. We will, in each of the budgets, by Committee action of Appropriations I and 11 by agreed amendment: be applying the type of Senate quidelines that we have in the past. Those would be your normal things that the Secate has always imposed upon State Government of keeping travel down to a minimum, phasing in long-term vacaneies: reducing vacant positions that have never been filled, making sure that equipment and similar type lines are kept to last year's level, particularly in these tight economic times. We believe that the Senate action Will save State Government approximately fifty million dollars when imposed upon all State agencies, both bills that originated in the Senate and bills that currently are in the House and will be coming over to the Senate. And that will approximate fifty - possibly a little bit more - in savings eo the taxpayers that we believe can be reallocated to some very needed programs. The -- Amendment No. 3 - Floor Amendment No. 3 - was an effort to try a slightly different approach to providing the funds necessary for what many of us believe are very essential serviees. Whether you accept the figure that the Governor has sought to reduce ongoing programs. as he says, by some five hundred million dollars, or the House's version of that list that says that ongoing programs that are - in many people's opinion - essential for the State, have been curtailed, reduced or not funded - to use the words of the 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Majority Leader to the tune of fifteen hundred million, which most of us would call a billion-five: but the House calls fifteen hundred million, or our list that show it probably to be about a billion two hundred million in services that are not being performed. Many of us believe that there is, within that grouping, a significant number that must be funded at some point in this process; that there are almost seven hundred million dollars in medical program reductions by the Governor, many of which are federally reimbursablee but more importantky, a1t of which are socially essential for the health and well-being of the citizens of Illinois. You know, the Constitution says that we are formed to provide for the public health, the public kelfare, and the public safety in this State, and many of us believe that tbe budget, as it now sits, does not meet that reason for which the people convened in Illinois to form a State. We had suggested a cash management plan. We still suggest a cash management plan vould work. And for those who had problems understanding it - for those kho had problems understanding it it is truly quite slmple. If you look at any homeowner, any person in ehis Seate whoz for some reason: was unable to pay the last couple months ' mortgage bill, *he last couple months' car paymentsy and a11 of a sudden find tbemselves with some past due bills that they must figure out how to pay from now and into the future. And if that person has a known income - a fixed-income person - and has shown the bank that they have cut their expenses enough to be loan-worthy, then the question is only if they have an income stream - in our case it happens to be twelve billion three hundred million and an expense line - of what happens to be eleven billion six hundred million - and we show that instead of doing without food for the next couple months, or without sending our kids to school for the next couple months, if instead of that, we went to a bank and we could prove our creditworthiness, and we 8  STATZ OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMZLY REGULAR SESSION SEKATE TRAKSCRIPT 3kst Legislatkve Day May 22, 1991 could spread out those payments over a period of time so that cur family couid still eat, that the kids coukd stkll go to school, and yet we could still fund our back bills by borrowing from a bank at five and a half percent instead of borrowing from vendors at twenty-four percent - that's What we have suqgested . I'd like the Governor to avail himself of If not, what do we do? Well, ehe only thing else we can do - one of a couple choices. We can cut a11 of State Government in General Revenue Funds by about five percent, including qrants - public aid, education, everythin: and produce about six hundred and thirty million dollars; or we can cut the administrative lines - ten percent, twenty percent, twenty-five percent - and produce about the like amount of money if we get up to the twenty-five percent.We have to determine what are the spending priorities of thls State and what are the people's priorities. I would suggeEt that this General Assembty. and the Senate particularly, has recoqnized that there will be in this Session no sacred pork. There is also not going to be any sacred cows. There are things that have to be funded and nothing will be Bo sacred as to be exempt from ckose scrutiny. We know that a ten-percent reduction in a1l the administrative lines will be sought -- thoughe of by the Office of the Governor as tryin: to dismantle State Government. That is not our intent. But there are items more important than salaries for a hundred and thirty-five thousand State employees; items like making sure there's a safety net out there for people with medical need or other needs, or work camps for youth offenders, and on and on and on. Most people in Illinois would probably think that's more important than maintaining an employment base of a bundred and thirty-five thousand people. I don't know the ansWer, but I dc know the Governor has invited us today to start discussing And in an effort to show that we are not attempting to be combative with the Governot, but ratber tc be cooperative, to Work 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GERERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22p 1991 our way through this financial morass that We are in, to live within cur means but provide for the essential servlces, I will at this time ask that Floor Amendment No. be Withdrawn. PRCSIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll has -- has requested Floor Amendment No. 3 ta be withdrawn. Is leave granted? Leave is -- granted. Amendment No. 3 is withdrakn. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 3 offered by Senators Fawell and Welch. PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZTO) Senator Fawell. SENATOR PAWELL: I -- I would like to kithdraw that amendment. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Good. Senator Fawell seeks eo -- leave to withdraw that amendment. Leave is granted. Amendment is Withdrawn. Senator further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No . 3 offered by Senator DeAngelis . PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you -- thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 3 is a transfer within that line from the Private Institution Grant to the Illinois School of Pharmacy -- the School of Pharmacy for the Chicaqo Osteopathic Hospttal, who wants to construct a neW school for a million one hundred and sevel thousand dollars. PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator DeAngelis has moved the adoption of Amendment No. Is there dlscussion? Senator Maitland. SENATOR MAITLAND: Thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. 10 k.  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 With a11 due respect to my good friend and and colleaguey Senator DeAngelis, this does amount to 1.7 million dollars in GRF . And I understand -- understand the need and the -- and the fact that it's a transfer, but it is something that we just ought not be about, and I would urge the rejection.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A11 right. Purther discussicn? Senator Rock.

Thank you, Mr. President. Question of the sponsor of the amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) L Sponsor indkcates he wilt yield. Senator Rock . SENATOR ROCKJ With this reallocation, from whom are you taking?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Dehngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: I believe it is parties unknown.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rock.

Well, I -- I would rise in strong opposition to this amendment. don't think that we ought to, within the purview of the Board of Hiqher Ed appropriation, start earmarking monies for one particular institution or university over another. That will, in my judgment -- if you take a look at the sixty-plus institutions -- private institutions of higher learnin: across this State, I'm sure each one of us has, either in his district or by disposition or by graduatton. an affinity for one over the other. We just ought not engage in this, and I would urge rejection of this amendment.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMQZIO) 11  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 Furtber discussion? If not, Senator DeAngelis may close. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Because of my great respect for the two Senators, one from our side and one from the other, I am going to withdraw this amendment. However, let me point out to the Body that I had taken a step previously with Senate Bill 1355: kn whkch *ad added money to the budget and withdrew that with the hopes of being considered, through this process, for the allocation of these monies for this project. So I would hope that the appropriation people and the President of the Senate and the Chairman of Appropy when the time comesy does something voluntarily that I had wished to impose upon this gody - a will that I am currently going to withdraw. Thank you. PRESIDTNG OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMVZIO) Al1 right. Senakor DeAngelis wlthdraks Amendment No. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWEER: No further amendments. PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Genate Bi1l 302. Senator Weaver. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 302: Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWXER; Senate Bill 302. (Secretary reads title of bkll) 2nd Reading of the bàll. The Committee on Appropriations offers Committee Amendment No . 1. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall. SENATOR HALL: Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, this amendment reduces the appropriation to the Governor's level. move for the adoption of this amendment. 12 kw  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th CENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 PRESIDING OFFIPER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. Is there discussion? If noe, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. is adopted. Molly Hall, With WCIA, has requested leave to videotape. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. Eurther committee amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: No further committee amendments. PR/SIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARX RAWKER: Senator Carrolls -- Senators Carroll and Hall offer Amendment No. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll. Senator Hall. SENATOR HALL: Thank -- thank you: Mr. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Oh! I'm sorry. Beg your pardon. Senator Carroll has sought to withdraw Amendment No. 2. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. Amendment is withdrawn. Further amendments? SECRETARX HAWKER: Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Hall. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SEKATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall. SENATOR HALLI I -- I withdraw that amendment. PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A1l rîght. Senator Hall seeks leave to Withdraw. A11 right. Amendment is withdrawn. Purther amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: 13 ' (  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th CENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Amendment Nc. 2 offered by the Kembers of Appropriations 11 Committee.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall.

I defer to Senator Maitland.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Maitland.

Thank you very much? Mr. President and Members of the Senate. M endment No. 2 to Senate Bill 302 is an agreed-to conmlittee aaendment - Maitland-Demuzio et a1. And it attempts to resolve the -- the funding concern we had for tbe cooperative extension matchin: grants. As you may reeall, there Was seven hundred and fifty thousand for makching grant: to the counties and another condition. two million dollars over a five-year program . We have agreed with -- in the committee that we would fund the matching rants in the amount of seven hundred and fi?ty thcusand dollars. This was an aqreement by the eommittee: and I would move the adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Maitland has moved the adoption of M endment No . 2. Is there discussion? If note those in favor Will indicate by saying Aye. Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. M endment No. 2 is adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 303. Senator Welch. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readin: is Senate Bill 303, Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 303. 14  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX RECULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readinq of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall.

I defer to Senator Welch.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch.

Thank you, Mr. President. What Committee Amendment No. does is the same as a11 of our other amendments, reducing the appropriation to the Governor's level. I'd be glad to answer any questkons.

PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor will indicaee by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have Committee Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Further committee amendments?

Commitkee Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Committee Amendment No. 2, Senator Senator Hall. SENATOR HALL) Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of Ehe Senate. I -- this reduces the appropràatlon to tbe no, this transfers a hundred and twelve thousand GRF from Reqents System's operation back to SSU. I move Eor the adoption of that amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall h>s moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 2. Is there discussion? If notz those in favor will indieate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22y 1991 No. 2's adopted . Further committee amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: No further committee amendments. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from khe Floor? SECRETARY HAWKER: Senators Carroll and Hall offer Amendment No. 3. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll seeks leave to of the Body to -- to withdraw Amendment No. 3. Is leave qranted? Leave is granted. Further amendments? , : SECRETARY HAWKER: No further amendments. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 304. Senator Ralph Dunn. Senator Dunn on the Floor? Al1 right. On the order of -- Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 304, Madam Secretary. Read the bill. SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Bill 304. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Approprtations 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall. SSNATOR HALL: Thank you, Mr. President. I -- this reduces the appropriation to the Governor's level. I move for the adoption of the amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall bps moved the adoptkon of Committee Amendment No . to Senate Bill 304. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENAT; TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 it. Committee Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Further committee amendments? SECRETAR: HAWKER: No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senators Carroll and Hall offer Amendment No.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Senator Carroll seeks leave of tbe Body to withdraw Amendment No. 2. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. Amendment No . is withdrawn. Eurther amendmentz? SECRETAR? HAWRERZ No further amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 305. Senator Carroll. On tbe Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readin: is Senate 3ill 305, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bi1l 305. (Seeretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readin: of the bill. The Committee on Appropriaeions offers Commtttee Ameadment No. 1. PRESIDING OPFICER) (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall.

It simply reduees the appropriatton to the Governor's level. I move for the adoptlon of the amendment.

PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 305. Is there discussion? If noty those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have Committee Amendment No. is adopted. Further committee 17  STATE OF TLLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSIQN SENATD TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Any amendments fron the Floor?

Senators Carroll and Hall offer Amendmenk No. 2.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll seeks leave of the Body to Withdraw Amendment No. 2.. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. Amendment No. is withdrawn. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Readinq. Senate Bill 306. On the Order of âenate Bitls 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 306. Madam Secretary: please.

Senate Bill 306. (Secretary reads title ot bill) 2nd Readinq of *he bill. The Committee on Appropriations offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRCSIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall.

Thank -- thank you, Mr. President. I -- this siRply reduces the appropriation to the Governor's level. I move for the adoption of the amendment.

PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 306. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. is adopted. Purther committee 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: I Committee Amendment No. 2. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) senator Hall. 1 SENATOR HALL: This is Demuzio's amendment, and so it -- it simply reduces personal service line to eliminate four new positions, reduces operations one point million across the board. I move for the adoption of the amendment. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator -- Senator Hall moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 2. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. 2's adopted. Further committee amendments? SECRETARV HAWKER : No further committee amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKER: Senators 6theredqe and Demuzio offer Amendment No. 2. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Etheredge. SECRETARY HAWKER: Pardon me. No. 3. Excuse me. . SENATOR ETHEREDGE: Thank you very much, Mr. President. Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This amendment adds back approximately six hundred thousand dollars that Was cut by -- the Committee Amendment No. 2. I move for its adoption. ' PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Senator Etheredge has moved the adoption of Axendment No. Is there discussion? If not, tbose in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendmene No. 3 is adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senators Carroll and Hall.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll seeks leave of the Body to withdraw Amendment No. 4. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. Amendment No. 4 is kithdrawn. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFTCER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 308. Senator Severns seeks leave of the Body -- Iîm sorry. Senate Bill 308, Madam Secretary. Read the bill.

Senate Bill 308. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Commtttee on Appropriations 11 offers Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall.

Thank you, Mr. President. This reduces the appropriation to the Governor's level. I move for the adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. to Senate Bk11 308. Discussion? If not, those in favor wikl indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. is adopted. Further committee amendments?

20  STATE GF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22z 1991 No further committee amendments.

PRESIDIRG OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Further -- further committee amendments? SECRETARY HA%KER: No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIQ) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senators Carroll and Hall offer Amendment No. 2. PRESIDING OFPICER; (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Senator Carroll seeks leave of the Body to withdraw Amendment No. 2. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. Amendment No. 2 is withdrawn. Further amendmentB?

No furkher amendments. Floor Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Etheredqe.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Etheredqe.

Thank you very much, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. There is no dollar change in this amendment. What it does is to transter 3.6 million dollars from various grant lines in order to - and this money is transferred to the credit hour grant line item - in order to maintain the appropriation level in for credit hour grants, at the same level as it is in this year's budget. I move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATQR DEMUZIO) Discussion? Senator Rea.

Question of the sponsor. Senator, I have four community college distràcts -- colleges in my district, and if you look at let's take just two of them for instance Rend Lake and 21  STATE OF ILLINQIS 87th GENERAL ASSCMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Soutbeastern now will that -- what Will happen as far as the revenue there? Will -- will there be an increase or a decrease or -- and if so, how mueh?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Etheredge.

Senator, IIm reading the list here with the help of my very able handler. I find that Rend Lake -- the base that I am going to be operating from now is -- is the level at which it exists right now, reduced With the appropriation reduced to the Governor's level. If this amendment, which am now proposing, were to be adopted, Rend Lake would reeeive a hundred and seventeen thousand dollars less than under the Gooernor's allocation. But the overall kncrease from last year is a quarter of a million dollars.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Senator Rea.

Wellv as I look over the -- the community colleges. and Would suggest that everybody look over whak changes would make in thekr areas, but kn mine, it's a negative impaet, and certainly would vote No on this amendment and would suggest that others do likewise.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Hawkinson.

Thank you, Mr. President. %i1l the sponsor yield for a question?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DDMDZIO) Sponsor indicates he Will yield. Senator Hakktnson.

Senator, as I'm looking over the sheet that was handed out 22  STATE 0F ILLINOIG 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 comparison of total grants - the bottom line under your amendment, for example, for the two community colleges in my area, Illinois Central would lose two hundred and thirty-one thousand under your amendment, and Carl Sandburg Would lose twenty-two thousand. Is that the -- the riqht figures under your amendment?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Etheredge.

overall in total grants, that's right.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hawkinson.

Then I would rise in opposition to thls amendment and request a roll eall.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further dïscusslon? Senator Hall.

Senator, I would like for you to tell -- there 's Belleville Area Colleqe in khere, who's in Senator Watsonds diatrict: Senator Vadalabene's district and my district. see you cutting a hundred and two thousand dollars out of that. Is that correct?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Etheredge.

That -- that is correct, Senator.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SEHATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Hall.

1'm opposed to this.

PRZSIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A1l right. Purther discussion? Senator Jacobs.

STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATZ TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Xes, I guess? Senatory if I understand this riqht, the bottom line of this is tbere's no increase or no decrease in the -- in the bottom line. Is that correct?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Etheredge.

Yes, Senator, that is exaetly correct.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Jacobs.

Then my question becomes, Senator, why are we doing this? mean, why are we taking away from some junior colleges and givin: to others? That doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me. And I'd, for one, like to know the rationale behind PRESIDING OFFICERJ (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Etheredge.

The purpose of the amendment is to maiùtain the credit hour grants at the same level next year as ehey are in this year's budqet. If we don't adopt this budget: there Will be a 3 . 6 million dollar reduction in that line item. And I just remind everyone, it is the credit hour grants that form the the backbone of the system that We use to distribute money to our State community colleges.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further dtscussion? Senator Vadalabene.

Yes, I'd like to ask Senator Etheredge a questkon.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Indicates he will yield. Senator Vadalabene.

What impact would this have an Lewis and Clark Communkty 24  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislatkve Day May 22, 1991 College in -- in Godfrey?

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Etheredge.

Lewls and Clark, Senator, would receive a five hundred and thirty-five thousand dollar increase over last year and a seven thousand seven hundred dollar increase over the Governor's level.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Vadalabene.

That's fine.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Schaffer.

Senator Etheredqe, I I believe you're trying to do something that makes sense. In essence What he's saying is, that this time of limited funds, we ought to emphasize saving the core curriculum and cut back on, if you wili, the frills. It seems ridiculous that Wefre going to stop funding math and science and English and keep fundinq basketweaving. That is not rational prioràty setting. I think that Senator Etheredge is on the right track.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? If not, Senator Etheredge may close.

I think the important thkng to emphasize here is that wkth the passaqe of Senate Bill 308, every eommunity college in the State of Illinois receives more money next year than they reeeived in this. That what we're trying to do here is to preserve the integrity of the fundins system that we have used since the colleges were formed in 1965, by maintaininq a level funding for the credit hour grant program. I would encouraqe an Aye vote. 25  STAT6 OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 3kst Legkslative Day May 22, 1991

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Etheredge has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2. Those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. 0h: I'm sorry. Senator Hawkinson had requested a roll call. I didn't see your light on, Senator. I know. Senator Etheredge has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 308. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted kho wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. 0n that question, the Ayes are 29? the Nays are 23# none voting Present. Atendment No. fails Ksic>. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) 3rd Reading. I'm sorry. Was adopted? All right. Was adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Al1 right. Senate -- further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. Senate Bill 310. Senator Weaver. Senator Weaver. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senaee Bill 310: Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 310. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the . bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Commkttee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 26  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Senator Hall.

Thank you: Mr. President. Thys reöuces the appropriatton to the Governor's level. I move for the adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Genator Hall has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. to Senate Bill 310. Is -- is there discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have kt. Commlttee Amendment No. l is adopted. Further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Ploor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 311. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readtng is Senate Bill 311, Aadaa Seeretary.

Senate Bill 311. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Approprëations 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall.

Thank you: Mr. President. This reduces the appropriation to the Governor's '92 level. I move for the adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No . l 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 eo Senate Bill 311. Is there discussion? Tf not: those in favor will indicate by saykng Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Further committee amendments?

Committee Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall.

Thank you. This reduces the personal services to twenty-seven thousand dollars by eliminating unneeded sick leave payouts. move for the adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A1l right. Senator Hakl has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have Committee Amendment No. 2 is adopted. Further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senators Carroll and Hall offer Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Senator Hall. Senator Carroll seeks leave of the Body to withdraw Amendment No. 3. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. Amendment No . is withdrawn. Purther amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 334. Senator Woodyard. On the 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th CENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 334, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 334. tsecretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Coamittee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFTCER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. l is the quidelknes amendment, as we had indicated earlier, and I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment Na. 1 to Senate Bill 334. Is there discussion? Senator Woodyard, you Want to -- a1l right. Those in favor will indicate by sayin: Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. l is adopted. Further committee amendments?

No further eommittee amendments. PRESTDING OFFTCERJ (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Carroll offers Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMOZIO) Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate . As a resulk of the committee testimony, it was indicated that an attorney who had been bired wkthout the knowledge of the Director -- she claimed that there was a search committee, but she had 29  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day MaY 1991 never met or interviewed the person before he showed up on the payroll, who had no knowledge at a1l of agricultural maeters. When our staff attempted to reach him --

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Pardon mee Senator Carroll. Ladies and Gentlemen , we have a long day today. cannot hear ebe Gentleman. Could we have some order? Senator Carroll.

It appears as if tbks qentleman resides kn Chicago: though operates in springfield, kith no knowledge of agrieulture at all, having been hired by someone over therez alehough the Director said she hired him, though she'd never met him, though there was a search committee, thouqb she never interviewed him . We found that a little bit confusing. We also found that the person's never here most of Mondays and most of Fridays, because he's flying in from Springfield from home in Cbicaqo and flying back. In addition to that, we're payin: weekly for his flights up and back, and paying for a livin: expense for him to live in Springfield while full time working in Springfield. So, this amendment merely seeks to reduce the level of fundinq to ehe amount of hours he's providing to the State, keeping him working, but reflecting that he's working a three-and-a-half-day workweek. And I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFTCER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Amendment No. 2. Is there discussion? Senator Maitland.

Thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. I rise in opposition to Amendment No. And let me indieate to the Body -- we've had this discussion in committee, and there are a lot of State employees that travel back and forth from Springfield to Chicago. And to call an individual at his or her 30  STATE OP ILLIKOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRKNSCRIPI 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 office and the -- and the person not being there, doesn't always mean they 're not Working on State on State business. I think the concern, Senator Carroll, about this is that, as you and both know, this ls an interim position. They are seekinq a full-time staff aetorney, and T I juse would remind ehe Body that that we have no knowledge - fàrst-band knowledge - that this person isn't working for the State five daysy possibly six days. And I think, since -- this is an interim position, this is an untimely amendment and ought to be defeated.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? If not, Senator Carroll may close.

Well, I hate to disagree with Senator Mattland, but of course I do. We do have knowledge, because we have vouchers. And the vouchers show When the person flies. And he's not here, and he's not there. He's in the air. And when he's ln the air, he 's not working for the State, plus we're paying an awful lot of money for a Springfield-based job not a Chicago-based job a Springfield-based job. They've rented him an apartment. We're paying him a per diem for living expenses here , and he's not here. We 've tried calling him several weeks on more than eight occasions: ten occasions, in the mornings on Monday . In faet, till about three/four in the afternoon. In the afternoons on Friday, starting at around eleven in the morning. Having looked at the travel vouchers and seeing rouqhly when the travel takes place. If he's going to Work three and half days a week, I have no problem with thae, kt that's satisfaceory to the Department. We just should not be paying for five days a week work When an employee is puttinq in three and a half days a week kork. And I Would urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Amendment No . 2 Those 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 in favor will indic4te by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 2 is adopted. Further -- Senator Maitland has requested a roll call. Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 334. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed/ Nay. The votin: is open. Have all voted Who wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Have all voted Who Wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question. the Ayes are 30, the Nays are 29# none voting Present. Amendment No . is adopted. Senator Maitlandy for what purpose do you rise?

Thank you, Mr. President. I'd like to verify the affirmative vote, sir.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Maitland has requested a verification of the people who -- or the Senators who voted in the afflrmative . If the Members will be in their seats. The Secretary w111 please read the names of the Members who voted in the affirmative.

The following Members voted in the affirmative: Alexander, Berman, Brookins, Carroll, Collins, Cullerton, Daley: D'Arco , de1 Valle, Demuzio, Thomas Dunn, Holmberg, Jacobs , Jones, J.E. Joyce, J.J . Joyce, Kelly, Lechowicz, Leverenz, Luft, Marovitz, Newhouse, O 'Daniel, Rea, Savickas, Severns, Smith, Vadalabene, Welch and Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Maitland: do you question the presence of any Member Who voted in the affirmative?

J.J . Joyce. PRESIDING OFFICER: . (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Is Senator --

32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GEHERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAZ SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 J -- okay, Jerome -- Jeremiah Joyce.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Jeremiah Joyce on the Floor? Senator Jeremiah Joyce on the Floor? Strike his name.

Senator Marovitz.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Marovitz is at my left.

Senator Alexander.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIQ) Senator Alexander on the Floor? Senator Alexander on t;e Floor? All right. Senator Alexander on the Floor? Strike her name .

Senator Daley.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Daley on the Floor? Senator Daley's at the back of the Chamber.

I see John. I see htm. -- Okay. Thank you. PRESIDISG OPFICER) (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A1l riqht. Senator Carroll has requested to verify those who voted in the negative. Madam Secretary, would you please call those Members' names?

The following Members voted in the neqative: Barkhausen, Butler, Davidson: DeAngelis, Donahue, Dudycz, Ralph Dunn, Etheredge, Fawell, Priedland, Geo-Karis, Hall, Hawkinson , Hudson, Karpiel, Keats, Maedonald, Madlgan, Mahar, Maitland, Philip, Raica, Rigney, Schaffer, Sehuneman, Topinka, Watson, Weaver and Woodyard. 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll, do you question the presence of any Member who voted in the negative?

Is -- yesy is Senator Barkhausen on the Floor?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Barkhausen on ehe Floor? He's on -- on the Democratic side.

Senator Davidson.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Davidson on the Floor? Senator Davidson on the Floor? Strike his name.

Senator Hall.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DZMDZIO) Senator Hall on the Floor? Senator Kenneth Hall on the Floor? Strike his name.

That's sufficient.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. On the verlfied roll call, the -- there are 28 voting Aye, 27 Nay, none voting Present. Anendment No. is adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments. Oh, excuse me. Senator Brookins offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZTO) Senator Brookins.

Thank you, Mr. President. This Would add five hundred and twenty-five thousand dollars from the Falr and Exposition Pund for 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 the purpose of creating a Chicago Agricultural Pair. I ask for the adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Brookins has moved the adopeion of Aaendment No. Is there discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladtes and Centlemen of the Senate. I -- I rise in -- in opposltion to this amendment. I have to believe that this is not the year to begin a new initiative up there, and I would ask that everyone cast a No .vote on this motion.

PRESIDINC OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Brookins may close. I'm sorry. Senator Carroll: I didn't see your light. Senator Carroll.

Thank you: Mr. President: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. As we had -- I'd forqotten to indicate, I quess, in my opening remarks, We would ask our Members also to withdraw these types of amendments: althouqh we recoqnize the import of them; that until we know wbat the revenue stream is and Where the money is going to be made available, I think it would look improper for the Sénate to be spendinq money that we know *e don't have. understand that Members would like to discuss theme and think that is appropriate, so that all the Membership knows naw what the important issues are as we are working throuqh the system. But then to ask the Members to do as I had done and others' and that - - then to withdrak the anendment. .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Brookins.

Tbank you. In deference to my Chairmany let me just say this and then we'll think about it. Let me just say that -- that, 35  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legkslative Day May 22, 1991 first of all, this is not funds coming from the General Revenue Pundsy as we a1l know; that it is coming from khere -- the horse races, et cetera, and therefore, it'd just be a transfer of funds thatds already in the system . Secondly, that I think that in the Chicago area and in the Cook County area, that we're due to get an opportunity to see what the downstaters are -- in agriculture and the fairs and everything. In other words, We kould be moving -- moving culture from downstate to the Chicago so that the young folks will understand at least where milk come from. You understand? Instead of -- my little boy for years thought milk came from the A & P. So kith that, and -- and since my Chairman has so kindly asked me ko withdrak this amendment, I Wi11 Withdraw this amendment. Thank you.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A11 right. Senator Brookins seeks leave to withdraw. Withdraw the amendment. Further amendments?

Amendment No. offered by Senators Carroll and Hall.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All riqht. Senator Carroll seeks leave to withdraw Amendment No. Is leave granted? Leave is granted? Amendment No. is Withdrawn. Further amendments?

Amendment No. offered by Senators Carroll and Hall.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll seeks leave to withdraw Amendment No . 3. Is leave granted? Leave is sranted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Carroll. PRESIDING OFFICER: . (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th CENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22: 1991 Thank ycu, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No. 3 would have been a reduetion in agriculture in the contractual amount, ànasmuch as they have told us they have rescinded the contract of their one contractual émployee. This would therefore remove the monies that would have been payinq him . However, I just received a eall. I have been asked to meet with the counsel of the Governor this afternoon. So with the understandinq, Senator Etheredge and Senator Woodyard, that they want to discuss tbat matter, 1111 wkthdraw this amendment at this time, and if nothing is resolved, then we'd ask ehat the bill be brouqht back tomorrow so that we can then either offer the amendment or something like it.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Al1 right. Senator Carroll seeks leave to Withdraw Amendment No. Leave is granted. Purther amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING GFFICER: (SENRTOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Readinq. Senate Bill 355. Senator Etheredge. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readinq -- sorry. Senate Bi11 335.

Senate Bill 335. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the blll. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. PRESIDING OFFTCER; (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Madigan. for what purpose do you arise?

Thank you, Mr. Presïdent. Poînt of personal privilege, àf may.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) State your point. 37  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

Thank you. Seated With us in the Presidene's Gallery this morning is a group from Beason Elementary Sehool Logan County, and their teacher, Jean Handlin. would appreciate them bein: Welcomed to the Genate Chambers.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A11 right. If our guests in the gallery will please rise and be recognized by the Senate. Welcome to Springfield. Senator Geo-Karis, fot what purpose do you arise?

Senator Demuzio, on a point of personal privllege.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) State your point.

Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, I have several of my constituents up in the President's Gallery. One is John J . Mccaughey - M-C-C-A-U-G-H-E-; - who is President of the Warren-Newport Credit Dnion, which is based in my district. The other one is Fritz Krause from the Johns-Manville Credit Union. And the third one is Reverend Norman Schneller from Zion. And I'd like you to help me qreet them. They're up there in the President's Gallery.

PRESIDING OEPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) If our guests in the gallery will please rise?

Senator Carroll: on Committee Amendment No.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of. the Senate. Committee Amendment No. l ts the quidelines amendment, as we previously described, and I would move its adoption.

Senator Carroll's moved the adoption of Commkttee Amendment 38  STATC OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22e 1991 No. l to Senate Bill 335. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indlcate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Purther amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Any amendments from tbe Floor?

Senator Carroll offers Amendment No . 2.

Senatcr Carroll, on Amendment No. 2.

Thank you: Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. It appears as if there may have been an accidental döuble adjustment, rather than double appropriation, in the budget, as submitted by the Governor. I have in my hands a memo from the -- from Joan Walteru, the Director of the Bureau ot the Budget, to Steve Selcke, the Legislative Coordinator, that indicates that apparently a hundred and eiqhty thousand dollars was eaken oue of the large institution grants line, which was to reduce those lines in order to fund the Humantties Council. However: the Humanities Council appears in anotàer budget in the Governor's Council on Health and Physical Fitness. So this would therefore restore to the last year's level the which apparently was the error inadvertently aade - we start at last year's level, the funding to the large institutions. The large institutions :ot last year about nine hundred ehousand dollars. So this errored reduction would have been about a twenty-percent reduction Statewîde. That clearly was not the intent of the Offiee of the Governor. So we woull move adoption.of Amendment No. 2.

Senator Carroll's moved the adoption of Amendment No . 2 to 39  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANGCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22: 1991 Senate Bill 335. Discussion? If not, al1 in favory indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Purther amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senators Carroll and Hall.

Gentleman seeks to Witbdraw that amendment. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Cullerton.

Withdraw. Purther amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 336. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill, Madam Secretaryz please.

Senate Bill 3-3-6 o..tmachine cutoffl...Bill 336. No committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Eloor?

Senator Jones offers Amendment No. 1.

Senator Jones on the Floor? Hithdraw the amendment. Further amendments?

Amendment No. l offered by Senator Welch.

Senator Welch. Withdraw the amendment. Purther amendments?

40  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Amendment No. l offered by Senator Thomas Dunn.

Senator Dunn.

Thank you, Mr. President. This is for six hundred and sixty-five thousand, and I propose to do it by takinq Howard Brookins' five hundred and twenty-five thousand for the Aqricultural Fair in Chicago. And for his children who don't know where milk eomes from, welll gladly give fem free tours.

Gentleman's movçd the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 336. Discussion? Senator Eeheredge.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I would -- in viek of the fact that other slmilar amendments have been withdrawn, I would respectfully request that the sponsor withdraw thi: anendment also.

Gentleman indicates he will withdraw the amendment. Further amendments?

Amendment No. l offered by Senaeor Xelly.

Senator Kelly.

Thank youe Mr. President and Members. I Will also withdraw. Iêm concerned about these three projects, but at the same time, understand the current sktuatkon, and I kithdraw.

hl1 right. Gentleman has withdrawn the amendment. Are there further amendments?

41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 No further amendments.

3rd Reading . Senator Etheredge. Read the billy Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 3-3-7. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the'senate. This would be the guidelines amendment of the Bureau of the Budget, and I would move its adoption.

Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 337. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Amendments from the Floor?

Senators Carroll and Hall offer Amendment No. 2.

Withdraw, please. eurther amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Before we get off that page, Senator Carroll 42  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATC TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22: 1991 seeks leave to go back to 258. 2-5-8, Madam Secretary. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 258. Read the bill, please.

Senate Bill 2-5-8. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Sen'ator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No . 1.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This would be a guidelines-type amendment, reallocating some monies for the county treasurersl traininç funds, et cetera, and I would move its adoption.

Senator Carroll's moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. to Senate Bill 258. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?

No further commiteee amendments.

Amendments from the Floor?

Senators Carroll and Hall offer Amendment No. 2.

Withdraw, please. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Top of Page 4. Senator Etheredqe. On Ehe Order 43  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legkslative Day May 22, 1991 of Senate Btlls 2nd Readinqy Senate Bill 338. Read the bill, please.

Senate Bill 3*3-8. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offqrs Comnittee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll: on Committee Amendment No. SENATOR CARROLL) Thank you: Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the guidelines amendment, and I kould move its adoption.

Senator Carroll's moved the adoptton of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 338. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor, indicate by sayinq Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further çommittee amendments.

Amendments from the Floor?

Senators Carroll and Hall offer Anendment No. 2.

Withdraw, please. Purther amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Readinq. 339. Senator Etheredge, On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Sill 339. Read the billg please.

Senate Bi11 3-3-9. 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATC TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Rea offers Aaendment No. 1.

Senator Rea.

Thank you, Mr. Preskdent. This -- this amendmènt is -- Would provide matching funds tq the Benton School Distriet, where there's mine subsidence and tbere's really a serious problem there. I realize the problems in the budget right noW. I'd just like to mention that I'd like to keep this in the -- in the process as the budgee moves alonq, and kedll withdraw the amendment for now. PRESIDENT ROC%: Gentleman seeks to -- has withdrawn *he amendment. Leave is qranted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. l offered by Senaeor Smith.

Senator SDith. Senator Smithy on Amendment No. 1.

Thank you. This amendment reallocates ten thousand dollars from *he New Salem State Historic Site Project to the Department of Corrections to purchase equipmeht at the Dwight Chapel and Visitors ' Center. And tbere is no dollar change whatsoever. PRSSIDENT ROCK; Senator Smith .has moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 339. Discussion? Senator Etheredqe.

45  STATE OP ILLIKOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY RECULAR SESSTON SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 Thank you very much, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I have been inf/rmed that a hundred thousand dollars has just been released for this project at DWight, and that they are free to purchase equipment With that sum of money. On that basis then, don't believe that this amendment is necessary , and I would respectfully ask that the Senator Withdraw it. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Smith. SENATOR SMITH: Thank you, Mr. President. And to my colleague on the other . side of the aisle: I : merely want to let you knok that they bad to furnish the chapel and these things were equipment to be Eurnkshing to the chapel. lhey need three thousand dollars Eor a word processor and printer; they need one thousand dollars for a printer; l.2 thousand for the chapel's sound system) four thousand dollars for an educational audio/visual package to provide parents education tr#ining. They need these things in the building. Now, the Governor's capital projects sent in a review commlttee recently approved release of a hundred thousand for ehe Capital Development Fund for the State's share of the construction of this chapel - the Visitors' Center at Dwight Correctional Center. Church Women Onited of Illinois have pledged four hundred and fifty thousand dollars, and so far raised four hundred and thirty-eiqht thousand toward the cost of the construction of the four-thousand-six-hundred-square-foot nondenominational Chapel and the Family Visitors' Center. This is a request to add to finish it up. They broke ground on May 6 - that's why I've got a cold today - on May 6 in Dwight. And this is to help them to flnlsh lt off. Thatts all. It's ten thousand dollars . It's beinq taken from the lo: cabin chimney at the Lincoln NeN Salem Historical Site from tWo hundred and twenty-five thousand, and we 're going to give them the two hundred and fifty fifteen 46  STATE OF ILLIXOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE IRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22r 1991 thousand General Revenue Punds, and reallocates ten tbousand dollars General Revenue Fund to the Department of Corrections for al1 costs associated with the acquisition and installation af furnishing and equiping the Chapel/visitors' Center at Dkkght Correctional Center. We need that money, and it's not going to hurt to finish that project off.

Further discussion on Amendment No. 1? Senator Schaffer .

Mr. President, I had an opportunity last fall to visit New Salem. New Salem, of course, was a WPA projeet built in the thirties, and despite: I think, a pretty decent maintenance program, those chimneys have become fire hazards. And we've already had two major fires out there. I think it's penny-wise and pound-foolish not to correct those fire hazards. We jeopardize State employees. We jeopardize some of the mkllion tourists that visit that very valuable tourist resource for the State. I don't fault the Senator's wish for ten thousand dollars, but they 've been waiting several years to get these chimneys back under repair, and unfortunately, it's kind of a lost art and I guess it's fairly expensive, but this is the safety of the people of the State of Illinois and our oWn Skate employees. I'd sugqest the Senator look somewhere else to -- for the ten thousand dollars, raeher than jeopardize the safety of people at Nek Salem.

Further dtscussion on Amendment No. 1? Senator Davidson.

Mr. President and Members of the Senate, I rise in opposition to this. Pretty well been stated by Senator Sehaffer, and also, if understood Senator Etheredge correctly, money had been released. I don't know hoW many of you have been to New Salem State Park, but the problem you have is thak the lining ks 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legkslative Day May 22, 1991 deteriorated in those chimneys, which are wooden on the outside. And as Senator Schaffer remarked, two of the fires, fortunately, were caught early and did not destroy the whole cabin. One of the chimneys that's in the worst state of repair is on the only original cabin that still stands amon: all those that have been restored. And I urge you to defeat this amendment. FRESIDENT ROCK2 Al1 riqht. Purther discussion on Amendment :o. 1? Senator Carroll: on Amendment No.

Yhank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Maybe, hopefully, to shed some light on the discussion. As we understand and I'm not saying we're correct this is just the information we've received to date, whieh is slightly different from what wedre hearing on the Floor - two things: oney that the amounts released were construction and not equipment. If ue're incorrect, and it included this equipment, then obviously the amendment would not have been needed or would not be needed now. But we understand the release of funds did not inelude this very miniscule amount of equipment that is essential for the chapel, which is why Senator Smith offered the amendment. If there is different information, I'm sure she would not have pursued it or Would not pursue it now if it's bein: funded through some other source. We also understand that the bidding process on New Salem had a built-in overrun factor - and we could be Wronq on that - of approximately ten percent, which would have been twenty-two thousand dollars, and that's why the *en thousand was a safe figure, because it does not appear that they would need to have overruns on that type of a project. That's why Senator Smith thought that since those funds would not be spent anyway and since, to the best of our knowledge, they were not included kithin the released amounts, that this Would complete a project that 48  STATE QP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIFT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 ! otherwise has been sitting idle, and get it over and done with. If the information we have is incorrect, weîd love to be enliqbtened so we wouldn't have to pursue it. Otherwise, I think we should be doinq this. PRESIDENT ROCX: Further discussion on Amendment No. 17 Senator Leverenz. SENATOR LEVERENZ: Thank you, Mr. President. I rise in support of the Lady's amendment. Surely, if you think in terms of rebuilding or buildlng a couple of chimneys: the tWo hundred and tWenty-five thousand dollars - reducing it to two hundred and fifteen thousand - I'm sure they can make a couple of chimneys with that, as well as probably reconstruct a few other things. The fact of the matter is, you cannot take tbe money out of construction lines for equipment, and therefore I would ask that you would go along with the Lady's amendment for the ten-thousand-dollar switch in funds. Thank you. PRESIDENT ROCK: Further dàseussion? Senator Smith, you may close. SENATOR SMITH: Thank you, Mr. Presidenk and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I am nok here appeallnq for myself. I'm appealinq for the women at Dwiqht who are tryinq to do -- have a better làfe. A lot of them are in there because of circumstances, and they have a warden there that is worthy of her hirey and she has certainly chanqed many lives. Ke are dealins with people today. That's ' what's wrong with our society eoday - we are so involved ln things. and we are forgettinq about people. These women are crying out there for a chanee, and you Want to stop it. And the next thing, al1 of .you Senators here - all of us here - have churchwomen in our districts. Those women went out - churchwomen - went out and -- and raised four hundred and forty some -- forty I 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSCMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22. 1991 thousand dollars to put that chapel there for tbose women. They forqot about self and thought in terms of those who maybe you are walking over in your districts. NoW I'm askin: you, please, out of the mintage Ksic> of my beart to please -- ten tbousand dollars is not going to break the New Salem -- building, neither is going to make it. But ten thousand dollars witl help to qive those women who are inmates out there a chance, and know that the State of Illinois is concerned about them. I'm not askinq for Margaret, but I'm asking for the State of Illinois people who are incarcerated in our institutions.

Senator Smith's moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 339. Purther diseussion? If not: all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have Tbe amendnentfs adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Rea.

Senator Rea, on Amendmenk No. 2.

Thank you, Mr. President. This is another projeet that having to do -- do With the hearing impaired - the special school in Southern Illinois khere there is a drastic need for roof replacement and heating and cooling system. Knowing the circumstances, wlthdraw the amendment at this time: but will be looking, hopefully. later one lf there's any possibilities as we move through the legislatlve process. PRESIDENT ROCK; Gentleman has kithdrawn the amendment. Are there further amendments?

Amendment No . 2 offered by Senator Vadalabene. G0  STATE Or ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22e 1991 PRESIDENT ROCXI Senator Vadalabene.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. The request of one million dollars could be used by the Department of Conservatkon fot tand acquisition and scenic easements to complete the parkway which Was which stretches from Alton to Pere Marquette and excludes Grafton. This is a very -- needed monies; but at this tkme, I will remove the amendment.

Centleman seeks leave to Withdraw the amendment. Leave is grantèd. Further amendments?

No futther amendments.

3rd Readinq. Qn the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bilk 340. Read the bille Maiam Secretary.

Senate Bill 340. (Secretary reads title of bà11) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriatlons I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll, on Amendment No.

Thank youe Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. l is your -- is a reappropriation projeets level to bring them down to the current level of funding: and I Would move âts adoptàon.

Senator Carroll has moved the adoptton of Amendment -- Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 340. Discussion? If 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 note al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Amendments from the Floor?

Senator Luft offers Amendment No. 2.

Senator Luft: on Amendment No. 2.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 2 deletes - deletes 2.2 million dollars of CDF reappropriation for a rehab building -- to rehab a building in Peoria.

Senator Luft's moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 340. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor: indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. Tbe Ayes have ït. The amendmentgs adopted. Are there further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Senator Geo-Karis, for What purpose do you arise?

Mr. President, a point of personal privilege. PRESIDENT ROCKI Staee your pointy please. SENATOR GEO-EARIS; Today we have a number of girl scouts here, and I'm privileged to have young Kattie - K-A-T-T-I-E - Tucker from Zion, Illinois, who is a Gold Award Girl Scoue, whlch means ehe equivalent of 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22r 1991 eagle scout of the boys. And I'd like you to -- to welcome Kattie here today, kho's going to be with us.

.Welcome to Springfield. Senator Raicay I see you have some help today. Would you like to introduce your administrative assistant?

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. A point of personal privilege, please.

State your point. SENATOR RAICA; With me tbis morning, and I hopefully most of the afternoon, I have a geneleman called Micah Mefford. He is from Virginiay Illinois, and he is a constituent of Senator Laura Xene Donahue. His parents are with us in the gallery. They are Mark and Chris Mefford. Micah is a very special child. He has a congenital heart disease, and he's just been accepted to the Make-A-Wish Foundation. His wish is to play golf with Michael Jordan. And what he dkd receive -- he is gokng to be ptcked up by limousine and be taken to a Cardinal game, which everyone here is probably really ecstatic with, and he's going to sit on the bench with the baseball players. So, everyone here, I'm -- I%m going to ask for a loud round of applause for a good friend, Micah Mefford.

Micah, welcome. Genator Donahue.

Thank you, Mr. President. On a point of personal prtvklege .

State your poànt.

I Will forgive Micah for his desire to be with a Cbieago 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22: 1991 politician, since he's my constituent, and he had wanted to be with Senator Raica tod#y. Andy Mieahe I would ask you a very special favor. Can I join in your game of qolf? You've got to have a foursome, and 1'd love to go wkth you. Take care.

Senator Hudson, were you seeklng recognition?

Thank you, Mr. President. Along the line of the Girl Scouts that are kith us todaye I have here -- down here a young lady from Montgomery, Illinois, by the name of Heather Pienkos, and I think she is busily engaged in her duties right now, but I want to introduce her anywayt She's here somewhere. I'm sorry. Would you nonetheless greet Heather Pienkos from Montgomery.

Heather, welcome to Springfield. A1l right. Top of Page 4 on the Calendar, on the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readin: is Senate Bi11 341. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bil1 341. (Seeretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment Ko. 1.

Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Mr. Presidentz Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the guidelines amendment, and I would move its adoption.

Discussion? Senator Carroll's moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. If there's no further discussion, a11 in favor, lndicate by sayin: Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted . Further amendments? 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legkslative Day May 22, 1991

No turther commkttee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Smith offers Amendment No. 2.

Senator Smith, on Amendment No. 2.

Thank you: Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This amendment merely reallocates seven thousahd dollars for a portrait of the late Senator Fred J. Smith, who served in this Legislature for thirty-six years. And I think that hls work is worthy to have a portrait of him in the halls of these -- of this -- of this building. And I a:k that you Would be kind enough to adopt this request. This is no dollar change. It's in a nine-million-dollar line. We can well afford And wedre merely just moving the money from a contractual line to a line of its own. Many of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle served with Senator Fred Smith, and I think you knew his Wortb. He was no put-on or no push-off. And he served these Chambers with honor and dignity. And he had as many friends on the other side of the aisle as he ha6 over on thks side of the aisle, and he was a Gentleman. And think in his honor, as bein: one who served thirty-six years in this building, in these Chambers, that this could be allowed him Ehis time. Geven thousand dollars ior a portrait.

Senator Smith's moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2. to Senate Bill 341. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have i*. The amendmentds adopted. Eurther amendments? 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senators Carroll and Rall. PRESIDENT ROCRI Wkthdraw, please. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 342. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Dill 342. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 342. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Commlttee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll, on Qommkttee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. 1 is the guidelïnes amendment, and I would move its adoption.

Senator Carroll's moved the adoptïon of Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 342. Discussion? If not; al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

hre there any amendments from the Ploor?

Senator Carroll offers Amendment No. 2.

56  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Senator Carroll, on Amendment No.

Thank you, Mr. lresident, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate . For several years there has been agreement to pay the legal fees on the Eastern -- on the Panhandle Eastern case over a period of years. At -- tbe first year I think we paid like a million three, and then it was two hundred and fifty thousand. Apparently last year, for some unknown reason, we goofed and did not include that funding. The budget: therefore, this time did not include it either. There is still approved -- significant bills out there approved by the agencies as to amount. The services had been performed. This would provkde for two hundred and fifty thousand against that unfunded liability, keeping the flow that apparently had been agreed to years aqo, and I would move adoption of Amendment No. 2.

Senator Carroll's moved the adoption of hmendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 342. Discusslon? Senator Etheredge.

Thank you: Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. rise in opposition to this amendment. I am informed by the Commerce Commission that thks is a case which is stilk being litigated; that we, in fact, do not know exactly what our obligations are qoing to be insofar as the leqal expenses are concerned. I'm also told that there is more than one laW firm that is involved within this suit, and that we should not just ptck out one taW firm and pay them some*hing and noe deal With the -- with the other firms that are involved in this. I'm also informed that in the past, when we have paid a portion of the -- the legal fees as they have accruedy that We have made those payments out of GRF, not out of PUF funds. So I think for all of those reasons, I would respectfully request that the sponsor  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22y 1991 withdraw this amendment. And, if not, I would ask for a No vote.

Al1 riqht. Further discussion on Amendmene No. 22 Senator Carroll, you wish to close?

Merely to say that over a period of years, the State had been funding this out. These services were basically performed, as I understand it, in the mid- to late-e8os. understand there is a firm still providing work. And if that's not compensated in the regular budget, that should be added on the same type of spread-out basis that this was. Apparently. this firm was to have, in their opinion, recéived some of the payment last year and some of the payment this year. That had been the understandinqs against the o1d bills that have been approved by the Commerce Commission. But aqain, our -- at least the Executive Branch and our error apparently did not honor that prior commitment of funding them over time. These are past due, guess, a couple yearse and were, you know, appropriately -- the firms were chosen by the Commerce Commission. That's khy I'm surprised by the opposàtion: if any, because -- I mean, theylre not our firms or anything else. These were Governor- and Commerce Commission-chosen firms who provided the work a couple of years agoe and I would move adoption of Amendment No. 2.

A1l riqht. Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Amendmenk No. 2 to Senate Bill 342. Those in favor of the amendment will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted Who Wish? Have a11 voted Who wtsh? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the reeord. On that question, there are 29 Ayes, 28 Nays: none voting Present. Amendment No. is adopted. Purther amendments?

58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 No further amendments.

3rd Reading. END OP TAPE TAPE 2

343. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading -- 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 343, Madam Secretary. Read the bill, please .

Senate Bill 343. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No commlttee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Marovitz offers Amendment No. 1.

Senator Marovitz, on Amendment No. Senator Marovitz .

Thank you very much, Mr. President. After consulting with staff and the chairman, think thts :: stïll in the process of negotiation, so I Withdraw this amendment.

Amendment's been wiehdrawn, Madam Secreeary. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

59  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 3rd Readinq. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading: Senate Bill 344. Read the bill. SECRETARY HAWKERI Senate Bill 344. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Why, thank you: Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the guidelines amendment. I would move its adoption.

Senaeor Carroll noves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bi1l 344. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indlcate by sayin: Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Eurtber amendments?

No further -- committee amendments.

Amendments from the Floor?

Senators Carroll and Hall offer Amendment No. PRESIDENT ROC#: Withdraw amendment, please. Purther amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 345. Senator Schaffer. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 345. Read the bill, please.

60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Senate Bill 345. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readinq of the b111. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll, on Comnittee Anendment No. 1.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This would be the guidelines amendment, and I would move its adoptiop.

Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. to Senate Bill 345. Discussion? If not: al1 in favor, lndicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

Senators Carroll and Hall ' offer Amendment No. 2.

Withdraw: please. Pu'rther amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 346. Senator Hawkinson. On the Order of ' Senate Bills 2nd Readinq is Senate Bill 346. Read the bill, please.

Senate Bill 346. (Secretary reads title of bill)  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22g 1991 2nd Readin: of the blll. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Avendment No. PRESIDENT ROCR) Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. is the guideline amendment. I would move its adoption.

Senator Carroll's moved the adoption of Commiteee Amendment No. to Senate Bill 346. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

Committee Amendment No. 2.

Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No.

Thank you: Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. These Were newly acquired federal funds that we adopted to the amendment to add those in committee. I would move its adoption.

Senator Carroll's moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. to Senate Bà11 346. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Ploor?

Senators Carroll and Hall offer Amendment No. 3. 62  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 PRESIDENT ROCKJ Withdraw. please. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKERI No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 347. Senator Schaffer. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readingz Senate Bk11 347. Read khe bkll.

Senate B&ll 347. ksecretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1. PRESIDENT ROCE) Senator Carroll: on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of ehe Senate. This will be the guidelines amendment, and would move its adoption. PRESIDENT ROCEI Senator Carroll moves the adoptton of Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 347. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have 1t. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Amendments from the Floot?

Senator Etheredge offers Amendment No. 2.

Senator Etheredge, on Amendment No. 2.

63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBL: REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Thank you very much, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This amendment adds back approximately seven hundred and forty thousand dollars that had been cut by Committee Amendment No . 1. We cut a llttle more deeply than We intended. move for its adoption.

Senator Etheredge moves the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 347. Discussion? If not, a11 kn favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Eurther amendments? SECRETAR? HAWKER: l No further amendments. PRESIDENT ROCHJ 3rd Reading. 348. Senator Weaver. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 348. Read the bill.

Senate Bkl1 3-4-8. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the guidelines amendment. would move its adoption.

Senator tarrotl moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 348. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor, indieate by sayinq Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further committee amendments. 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991

Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Rea offers Amendment No. 2.

Senator Rea, on Amendment No. 2.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. These coal projects have been identified as cutting-edqe technologies that can prdvide environmental compliance for utilities with continual utilization of Illinois coal. And the projects should be listed in Senate Bill 348 for the purpose of describing the expenditures of the Coal Development Bond Pund for current and upcoming ENR projects. Tbe individual clean coal project expenditures are not additional expenditures; but are a clarification of funds ko be used from the bond fund line item total. The remaining monies Will be used for onqoing projects. would move for adoption.

Senator Rea has moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 348. Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

Thank you, Mr. President: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I rise in opposition to the amendment. As has been pointed out: this -- there is no dollar change here. There is an -- an allocation to the various projects that bave been identified. And I think everyone agrees we want Eo do these projects. The problem that we are -- We are, howeverp creatin: a problem by making these project-by-project allocaeions. Because what's goin: to happen is We're going to find that one -- one of these projects is going to require a little bit more to -- to complete than has been allocated here. Another project is going to require a lkttle bit 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legkslative Day May 22, 1991 less: and then that -- wefre not going to be able to spend the money ehat is not used by that project' think what we're doing here is simply creating an unnecessary administrative problem, and I don't think that We really want to be about that kind of business. So I rise in opposieion to tbis aaendment.

Further discussion on Amendment No. 22 Senator Ralph Dunn.

Thank -- thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. I hate to disagree with my distinguished leader over here on this skde, but this is a -- we deem this - in the coal development business - as pretty important that these funds be allocated to their proper sources so that they can be released and be spent. Some of these have been voted on and passed out of the Coal Development Board as long as last March -- and a1l of them in Marchy and some of them over a year agoe and theydve been held up somewhere along the line, and ke wanted to break them out. So that -- it doesn 't change anything other than to allocate by line item what these projects are. I'd urge adoption of the amendment.

Further discussion? Senator Carroll. SENKTOR CARROLLI Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I rise also in support of the amendment. I think we want accountability in government. We've done it in other areas as well. These were projects to whlch *he funds Were committed. And there ls a process by which we can transfer funds if somebody's up and somebody's down at the end of the construction period. or .the rehab period, or the restoration period, just as we do everywbere else. But lf we want the public and ourselves to know where the money's being spent, it's always smarter to try and allocate. And would urge adoption of the amendment. 66  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 PRESIDENT ROCK: Further 'diseussion on Amendment No. 2? If not: Senator Rea to close. SENATOR REA: Thank you, Mr. President. Actually these projects are in the pipeline. These -- these figures are the ones that we've been dealing with, with the Department, tbrough the Coal Bondin: Pund. see no -- no problem With this whatsoever, and With the event of the Clean Air Act, it's more important - probably than ever - to identify, promote and commercialize various technologies that can ' be used in the near future - and I underlkne in the near future with a wide range of applications to a host of different types of utilities. I would move for adoption. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Rea has moved ehe adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 348. Further discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicate by sayinq Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have lt. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No . offered by Senator Brookins. PRESIDEHT ROCK: Senator Brookinsz on Amendment No. SENATOR BROOKINS: Thank you, Mr. President. This amendment adds 2. 9 million dollars -- wait -- kait -- wait -- 1'm sorry -- million. This is million for *he museums ln *he City of Chlcago and around the nation. And I just want my colleagues to know that our -- our museums are in bad shape, and they are about to close. But since my ehairman has asked me, and I know him to be a concerned guy. I withdrav this -- this anendaent. PRESIDENT ROCXI Amendment's been withdrawn. Further amendments? 67  STATE OF TLLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislatkve Day May 22 , 1991

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senators Carrotl and Hall.

Withdraw, please. Further amendments? SECRETARY HA#XER: No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Bottom of Page 4. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readinq, Senate Biïl 349. Senator Butler. Read the bill, please. SECRETARï HAWKER: Senate Bill 349. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No.

Senator Carroll, on Conmittee Amendment No. 1.

'hank you, Mr. President', Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the guideline amendment. I would move its adoptàon.

Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 349. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further eommittee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

Senators Carroll and Hall offer Amendment No. 2.

68  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th CENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22e 1991 Withdraw, please. Further amendments?

Ko further amendments.

3rd Reading. 350. Senator Philip. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readtng is Senate Bill 350. Read the bill, please.

Senate Bill 350. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No . 1.

Tbank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the constitutional officer type guideline amendment. I would move its adoption. PRESIDENT ROCK) Senator Carroll's moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senate 3i11 350. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by sayin: Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?

No further committee amendmenes.

Any amendments from the Ploor? SECRETARY HAWEZRZ Senator Etheredge offers Amendment %o. 2.

Senator Etheredge, on Amendment No. SENATOR ETHEREDGEt Thank you, Mr. Presidentp Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. 69  STATE OP TLLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 3tst Legislative Day May 22y 1991 There is no dollar change here. This is merely a technical correction. I'd move for its adoption. PRESIDENT ROCK; Senator Senator Etheredge has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 350. Discussion? If not: al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

Senators Carrotl and Halt offer Amendment No. 3.

Withdraw, please. Purther amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Bottom of Page On tbe Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 351. Read the bill.

Senate Bkll 351. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you: Mr. President: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the guidelines amendment. I would move its adoption.

Senator Carroll's moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No . l to Senate Bill 351. Discussion? If not, a1l kn favor. indicate by sayin: Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further anendments?

70  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legkslattve Day May 22, 1991 No further committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETAR? HAWRER: Senators Carroll and Hall offer Amendment No. 2.

Withdraw, please. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Top of Page 5. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 352. Read the bill.

Senate Bill 352. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendaent No.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the guidelines amendment. I Would move its adoption.

Senator Carroll's moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 352. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Aye: have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Ploor?

71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22: 1991 Senators Carroll and Hall offer Amendment :o. 2.

Withdraw, please. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Top of Page 5. On the Order of Senake Bills 2nd Readinq, Senate Bill 353. Senator Butler. Read the bill, please.

Senate Bill 353. (Secretary reads tltle of bill) 2nd Readlng of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll: on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank your Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This would add the Rural Bond gank, but in lump sum, which we'll correct later. I would move its adoptiona

Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No . 1 to Senate Bill 353. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Purther amendments?

No further commitkee amendmenes.

Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARX HAWEER; Senator Carroll offers Amendment No. 2.

Senator Carroll, on Amendment No. 2. 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991

Thank you, Mr. Presidentw Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This would noW take the Rural Bond Bank in line itemy and I would move its adoption.

Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 353. Discussion? If not: all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have kt. The amendmentls adopted. Purther amenbments?

Senators Carroll and Hall offer Anendment No.

Withdrawr please. Purther amendments?

No furtber amendments.

3rd Reading. 354. Senator DeAngelis. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 354. Read the bill, please.

Senate Bill 354. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you: Mr. Presidentz Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the guidelines amendment, and I would move its adoption.

Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 354. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor. lndicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's  i I STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 adopted. Further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

3rd Reading. 355. Senator Etheredge. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 355. Read the billy please.

. : Senate Bill 355. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriatlons I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senatoç Carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the quidelines amendment. I would move its adoption.

Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 355. Discussion? If not: all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Furtber amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Amendments from the Ploor?

No Floor amendments.

74  STATE OF ILLTNOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 3rd Readinq. 356. Senator Dunn. On ehe Order of Senaee Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 356. Read the billy please.

Senate Bill 356. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the quidelines amendment. I would move its adoption.

Senator Carroll moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No . 1 to Senate Bill 356. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Amendments from the Floor?

Senators Carroll and Hall offer Amendment No. 2.

Withdrawz please. Purther amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 357. Senator Etheredge. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 357. Read the bill, please.

Senate Bil1 357. 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSCMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readinq of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll, on Commlttee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the guidelknes amendment: and I would move its adoptton.

Senator Carroll's moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 357. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor, indicaee by sayin: Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendmene's adopted. Further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Amendments from tbe Floor?

Senators Carroll and Hall offer Amendment No. 2.

Senator -- withdrak, please. Purther amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Readinq. 358. Senator Donahue. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readinq is Senate Bill 358. Read the bill. please.

Senate Bill 358. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. ehe Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

76  STATD OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No.

Thank you, Mr. President: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This -- Committee Amendment No. l Would correct budgeting errors and provide the guidelines reductions. I would move its adoption.

Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 358. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendmenks?

No further committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Ploor?

Senators Carroll and Hall offer Amendment No. 2.

Withdraw, please. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 359. Senator Etheredge. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 359. Read the bill.

Senate Bill 359. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No . 1.

Senator Carroll: on Committee Amendment No .

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. 77  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 This is ehe guidelines amendment, and T would move its adoption. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Carroll moves the adoptlon of Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 359. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted . Further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Amendments from the Floor?

Senators Carroll and Hall offer Amendment No. 2.

Withdraw, please. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 360. Senator Etheredqe. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 360. Read the bill, please. SECRETAR; HAWEER: Senate Bill 360. tsecretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No . 1.

Thank you: Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen 0f the Senate. This is the guidelines amendment. I would move its adoption.

Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate 2i11 360. Discussion? If not, al1 in favorr 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSZMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 indicate by sayin: Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: No further committee amendments.

Amendments from the Ploor?

Senators Carroll and Hall offer Amendment No .

Withdraw, please. Further amendments?

No further amendlents.

3rd Reading. 361. Senator Etheredge. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 361. Read the bill.

Senate Bill 361. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll: on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the quidelines amendment, and I would move its adoption.

Senator Carrokl's moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 361. Discussion? If not e al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed . The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Purther amendments?

No further committee amendments. 79  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

Any amendments from the Ploor?

Senator Carroll offers Amendment No. 2.

Senator Carroll, on Amendment No. 2.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is a technical amendment to correct spelling errors. I would move its adoption. PRESIDENT R0CK: Senator Carroll's moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 361. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor, indic#te by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendmentfs adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Schaffer. PRESIDENT ROCKI Senator Schaffer, on Amendment No. 3. Withdrawe please. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senators Carroll and Hall.

Withdraw, please. Purther amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 362. Senator Woodyard. On the Order of senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 362. Read the bill, please.

Senate Bill 362. (Secretary reads title of bill) 80  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No . 1.

Thank you: Mr. President: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is a reduction amendment to brinq it down to one dollar to make it a vehicle bill. I would move its adoption.

Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No . to Senate Bill 362. Discusslon? If not, all in favory indàcéte by saying Aye. Al1 oppooed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopeed. Purtber amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Ploor?

No Ploor atendments.

3rd Reading. 363. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill: Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 363. (Secretary reads title of b11l) 2nd Reading of the bikl. No committee amendments. PRESIDENT R0CF: Any amendments Erom the Floot? SECRETARY HAWKER; No Ploor amendments.

3rd Reading. 364. Senator Watson. Read the bàllr please, 81  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Madam Secretary.

Senate Bi11 364. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Anendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll, on Comnittee Amendment No. 1.

Thank youg Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the guidelines amendment. I Would move its adoption.

Senator Carroll's moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. to Senate Bill 364. Discussion? If noty a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Purtber amendments?

Senator Carroll offers -- no further committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Carroll offers Amendment No. 2.

Senator Carroll: on Amendment No. 2.

Thank you, Mr. Presidente Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the annual allocation anendment. No dollar chanqe. And I Would move its adoption.

Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Amendment No . 2 to Senate Bill 364. Discussion? Senator Etheredge.

82  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22z 1991 Well, thank you, Mr. President, tadies and Gentlemen of the Senake. This ls a -- what wefre doing here is to allocate a portion of these dollars for various member -- member projects. don't think this is something that we ought to be doinq at -- at this time. I rise in opposition to thàs amendment.

All right. Senator Carroll has moved tbe adoptton of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 364. Further discussion? If not, a1l in favor, indkeate'by saying hye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senators Carroll and Hall. PREGIDENT ROCKI Senator -- withdraw, please. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 365. Senator %atson. Read the bill, Madam Secretaryy please.

Senate Bill 365. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No.

Senator Carrolle on Committee Amendment No .

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the guidelines amendment. I would move its adoption.

Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No . to Senate Bill 365. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor, 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Purther amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

No Ploor amendments.

3rd Reading. 366. Senator Maitland. Read the bill, please, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 366. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDENT R0CK: Any amendments from the Ploor?

Senator Maitland offers Amendment No. 1.

Senator Maitland, on Amendment No. 1.

Thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 367 is a technical amendment. move for the adoption.

3-6-6, Senator Maitland. Senator Maitlandls moved the adoption of Amepdment No. 1 to Senate Bill 366. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor beq your pardon. Senator Berman.

Let him reexplain the amendment.

84  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Senator Maitland.

I do, Mr. President: apologize. I Was on the wronq bill. It is not just a technical amendment; it does -- it's a reallocation within Aging's budget, and does partially restore the funding for home-delivered Reals, and 1 would move for the adoption.

All right. Senator -- discussion on Amendment No. to Senate Bill 3667 Senator Berman.

Thank you -- thank you, Mr. President. I stand in ôpposition ko the amendment. Let me explain to those who are concerned about this appropriation just why I stand in opposition. Senator Maitland is correct; seeks to reinstate some moneg - five hundred and fifty thousand dollars - for bome-deltvered meals. The problem with this amendment is that it funds home-delivered meals to the extent of half a million dollars, but takes that money from elder abuse proqrams and a deinstitutionalization program. This amehdment, or its the essence of this amendment, was offered in Appropriations 11 Comnittee. spoke against this amendment in the committee and We were able to defeat this amendment, because this side of the aisle in that committee did not want to be put into the positàon of takinq funds from a very important -- two very important proqrams, namely elder abuse prevention, and deinstitutionalization prevention. to prevent seniors from being put into nursing homes and other institutions, in order to fund Meals on Wheels. Meals on Wheels is important, but so are the other two programs. And I would suggest thae we defeat this amendment, and between noW and June 30th, Work to restructure our priorities so that elder abuse, deinstitutionalization and Meals on Wheels are maintained in the budget. I urge a No vote. 85  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX RECULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legkslative Day May 22, 1991 PRESIDENT ROCK: Al1 right. Purther discussion on Aaendment No. Senator Fawell. SENATOR FAWELL: Thank you very much' Mr. President and -- and Members of th e Assembly. You know, I have delivered these home-delivered M eaks on Wheels Proqram. I've actually gotten in my ear and deLivered some of these meals, and -- and they certainly are very important . But I think the Way that this amendment is drafted is certainly the Way to go. We have found monies tn this particular bud get. The W1C program, we have been told during the Appropriations Committee, was qoing to be twent y-five percent more by the through federal funds. I don't think we're hurting anythi ng to do this, and -- and I think we ought to be doing this e and -- and this is an important program and I think we ought to -- We qught to vote ror ehis amendment. PRESIDENT ROCK: Purther discussàon? Further discussion? Senator Maitland , you kish to close? SENATOR MAITLAND: Thank you, Mr. President. Only to respond to Senator B e rman . Wedre not really taking money aw ay from anyone. The Elder Abuse Proqran has a -- still has a 14. 6 increase over lést year . That's not too bad. Deinstitutionalization i s -- is a new initiative. We have no idea what it vill cost, nor does the Department . And this appears to us to be a a reasonable reallocation of money within this budget. I would further move for the adoption . PRESIDENT ROCR; Senator Maitland has moved *he adoption of Amendment No . to Senate Bill 366 . Those in favor will vote Aye . Opposed, vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 zoted who wish? Have a1l voted who Wish? H ave al1 voted Who 86  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 wish? Take the record. 0n that question, there are 28 Afes, 31 Nays, none' voting Present. The amendment fails. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Berman.

Senator Berman, on Amendment No. 2.

Thank you. This -- this is two -- 2 .7 million dollars to fund home-delivered meals and eommunity-based services. I'm going to withdraw the amendment, because I think wedve got to find the money. But I can speaking for many of my collea:ues, is our intention to find the money for these important human services. 1'11 withdraw this amendment at this time .

Senator Berman wishes to wikhdraw tbe amendment. Purther amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Brookins. PRESIDENT R0CK: Senator Brookins.

Here agaîn, Mr. President, this is for the -- Mr. President yes. Thks ks for the Department of Aqinq. And what we are asking for is 2.9 million dollars to -- community care program . Without this money, eiqhteen elderly people will qo without their community care. And I just think that -- this is just one that really don't want to withdraw. This is one that We really need. I can know -- I know that this is a beneficial service to peoplez not only in my community, but in the State of Illinois. But due to thev..linaudiblel...of the budget and -- and due the prevakling of my chairman on me, I have to withdraw this -- 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRKNSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 PRESIDENT ROCK: Amendment's been witbdrawn. Further amendnents? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 2 offered by Senators Carroll and Hall.

Withdraw . Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readingy Senate Bi11 367. Read the bill, please.

Senate Bi11 3-6-7. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Apprbprtations 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Hall, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Mr. President. This is a guideline amendmentz and I move for its adoption.

Senator Hall's moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 367. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by sayinq Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Purther amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Any amendmenes from the Floor?

Senator Maitland offers Amendment No. 2. 88  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBL; RECPLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

Senator Maitland, on Amendment No. 2.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. does correct drafting errors. It's technical. I move for the adoption.

Senator Maitland's moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 367. Discussion? If not, a11 in Eavor, kndtcate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 iffered by Senators Demuzlo and J.J. Joyce.

Senator Demuzio.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No. 3 is an attempt, by myself and Senator Joyce, to restore the money for the two youth camps in Corrections that are being -- that have been targeted for closure under this administration. What We have done is, we have taken the 3. 8 million dollars out of the central office of the Department of Corrections and reallocated that money to those tWo facilities for them to remain open at the '9l -- Fiscal Year ê9l level. Now for those of you that feel that perhaps the central office is a place Where this Will cause some harm, I know that -- for example, just in two lnstances -- that we have one new executive assistant in the Department of Corrections - more than we had the previous year. We have one more legislative liaison than we had the previous year. and I can go on. So out of a 26.4-mil1ion-dollar budget, it seems to me that this is a prudent and fiscally responsible thing for us to do# particularly when youlre talking about the overcrowding prison population in Illinois, where you 89  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLy REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day ' May 22, 1991 have twenty-eight thousand people occupying about eighteen thousand beds. These two facilities operate -- according to their audits are cost efficient. And we ought not to be utilizing and throwing these youth offenders in the -- in with the hard eore criminals in Illinois. And I would ask all of you to support this amendment to restore both of these youth camps, so that we can continue the fine operation that they have conducted in the -- in the -- in the previous years. PRESIDENT ROCX: Senaeor Demuzio has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 3 to . Senate Bill 367. Discussion? Senator Joyce. SENATOR J.J. JOYCE: Well, thank you, Mr. President. Not to belabor the Body with a similar speech as Senator Demuzio, but I couldn't agree more with that, and I would ask for the adoption of this amendment. PRESIDENT ROCK: Further discussion? Senator Watson. SENATOR WATSON: Xes. Thank you. Question of the sponsor. PRESIDENT ROC%: Indicates he Will yield? Senator Watson. SENATOR WATSON : Certainly share your concern about khe youth camps, but concerned quite heavily abput where you're taking this money from. Could you explain in more detail Where youfre 4oing to come up With 3.9 million dollars out of the central office? I mean, are you talktng about positions? And give us some idea what -- who these positions are, who they might be. Where's this money coming from? PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Demuzio. SENATOR DEMUZIO: 90 1 I  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22 1991 , We took out khe EDP. We took out ear allowances that that are not for transportin: prisoners and things of ehat nature, Senator Watson. Ves, the middle-management overhead. PRESIDENT ROCKC Further discussion? Senator Maitland. SENATOR MAITLAND: Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Welly 1, toor rise àn oppositàon to this -- this anendment. We had lengthy discussicns With the Director, and he indicated to us that the individuals from both of these facilities would be taken to Harrisburg and St. Charles, so we do have places for them. Webre not dumping them out on the streets at all. These are fine programs, but they 're very expensive programs on a per-individual basis. There's no question about that at all . And, Senator Demuzio, to eake an additional 3.9 million dollars out of central offkce just won't work, and we would strongly urge a defeat of this amendment.

All right. The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 3. Purther discussion? Senator Demuzio, to close. SENATOR DEMUZIO; Well, I -- I certainly appreciate the -- the comments. LeL me just sugqest to you that by the Department of Corrections' own auditors, it was inökcated that both of these facilities are two of the most cost-efficient facilities tbat We have in Illinoks that are functkoning under the Correettons banner. Let me also point out to you that these are not the hard core that we are attempting to put into maxlmum securlty-type priaons. These facilities operate programs -- matter of fact, ehis program is the only sex offender treatment proqram that's currently available in Illinois at such -- such a facility. And I think that we are in the process of renovatinq the dorms. We're proposing expenditures 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GEKERAL ASSEMBLX REGSLAR SESSION SSNATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqisàative Day May 22, 1991 -- the previous year for a new roof. Cost of elosing the facility would be more than lt would be to maàntain it and to keep it o pen and to keep these young people functioning in that -- in that faeility, and I kould hope thae all of my colleagues would v ote Aye on thls anendment. PRESIDENT ROCKt Question is the adoption of Amendnent No. 3 to Senate Bill 367. Those in favor of the ame ndment wtll vote Aye . Opposed, vote Nay. And *he votinq is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted Who Wish? Have a11 voted who wisb? Have al1 voted wh o Wish? Take the record. On tbat question, there are 31 A yes, 27 Nays, none votlng Present. Amendment No. 3 is adopted . Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Hall. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Hall, on Amendment No 4. SENATOR HALL: Thank you: Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This breaks out in a separate line the electronic detentton funds. hnd there's no dollar cbange , and this was requested by the Parole Officers' Association. I move for the adoption of this amendment.

Al1 right. Senator Hall's moved the adoption of Amendment No . 4 to Senate Bill 367. Discussion? If not , all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it . The amendment' s adopeed. Purther amendments?

Amendment No. 5 offered by Senators Carroll and Hall .

Withdraw, please. Further amendments?  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22: 1991 SECRETARY HAWKER: No further amendments. PRSSIDENT ROCK: 3rd Reading. On the Order of Senate sills 2nd Reading: bottom of Page 5, Senate Bill 368. Read the bill, please. SECRZTARY RAWKER : Senate Bill 368. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readinq of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 . offers Committee Amendment No. PRESIDENT ROCX : Senator Hall, on Committee Amendment No. 1. SENATOR HALL: Thank you, Mr. President. This is the guideline amendments, and I move for the adoption of it. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Hall has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 368. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: No further committee amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: Any amendments from tbe Floor? SECRETARY HAWKER : Senators Carroll and Hall offer Amendmen: No. 2. PRESIDENT ROCK: Withdraw, please. Further amendments? SECRETARX HAWKER: No further anendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: 3rd Reading. Top of Page 6. On the Order of Senate Bills 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legkslative Day May 22y 1991 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 369. Read the bill, please.

Senate Bill 369. (Seeretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No.

... tmachine cutoffl...carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 1. SENATOR CARROLL; Thank you. Mr. President, badies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the guidelines amendment, and I would move its adoption.

Senator Carroll has moved the adoption oi Commkttee Amendment No. to Senate 3il1 369. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicate by sayin: Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Ploor?

Senators Carroll and Hall offer Amendment No. 2.

Wkthdraw: please. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 370. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 370. (Secretary reads title of bill) 94  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANGCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

3rd Reading. 371. Senator Kaitlandw On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readinge Senate Bill Read the bill. SECRETARV HAWKERI Senate Bill 371. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Hatl: on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you: Mr. Preskdent, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No. l is the guidelines amendment, and I move for its adoption.

Senator Hall has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 371. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicate by sayin: Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Hall offers Amendmene No. 2.

Senator Ball, on Amendment No. 2. 95  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY RCGULAR SESSION SENATE TZANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

This is the AFSCME amendment and restores 5.9 million, and I move for its adoption.

Senator Hall has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 371. Discussion? Senator Maitland.

I -- thank you. Mr. President. rise in strong opposition to this -- thls amendment. This is obviously a majorw add-on and one that -- I believe we can use the money for better purposes. hnd I think a subsequent amendment will -- will demonstrate that. And E would urge defeat.

All right. Senator Hall has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 371. Further discussion? Senator Hall, you wish to close?

This is not an add-on. It's for personal serviaes, and we added that in -- in tbe eommittee. What it does: it forestalls the layoff of three hundre; and seventy field serviee employees. This is an important amendment, and I move -- it's not an add-on. It's a restoration of money that was cut in the committee. So I move for this adoption.

All right. Senator Hall's moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 371. Those in favor of the amendment Will vote Aye. Opposed. vote Nay. And *he voting is open. A11 voted Who wish? Have a11 voted who Wlsh? All voted who Wish? Have all voted who Wish? All voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 29 Ayes: 26 Nays, none voting Present. Amendment No. 2 is adopted. Further amendments?

96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator de1 Valle.

Senator de1 Valle. Senator de1 Valle: on Amendment No. 3. SENATOR dEL VALLE: Thank you: Mr. President. Amendment No. reallocates five hundred thousand dollars from the Medicaid Management Service Manaqement Systems to Food Stamp Outreach Services. This Would delay the implementation of the expansion of the Medicaid Management Systems by three months. It does not caneel it outg it delays the implementation.

A1l right. Senator deL Valle has moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 371. Diseussion? Senator Maitland.

Thank you, Mr. President. Just to rise in strong opposition to thks amendment. We don't support it. We think itds inappropriate at this time, and I would further -- well: we just oppose

All right. Senator de1 Valle has moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 371. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have all voted who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted Who Wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 31 Ayes, 28 Nays: none voting Present. Amendment No. 3 is adopted . Fureher amendments?

Amendnent No. 4 offered by Senators Carroll and Hall.

Wlthdraw, please. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER; Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Maitland. 97  STATE OB ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legkslatkve Day May 22 1991 , PRESIDENT ROCK : Senator Maitland. SENATOR MAITLAND: Thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. We had -- we had identifted Ewelve million dollars to fund at nearly seventy percent the DPI inïtiative. ûbviously, a couple o: the amendments that have gone on take direct services to those in need -- it takes money away from them and puts them in in jobs, and we regret that. I think that at a later time: we'll be able to make a better decision on that. But I -- *e Will persist in this -- this motion. We believe itîs -- it's a good one. It restores DFI -- it restores the Donative Punds Initiative to seventy percent. And, Mr. President, I request a roll call and also would like a verification, if it is a close vote. I haven't been able to qet your attention on previous -- on previous votes. Thank you, sir.

Rll right. The question is the adoption of Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 371. Discussion? Senator Carroll.

Qhank you: Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. While I am strongly supportive of the Donative Funds Initiative, I rise in opposition to this amendment for several reasons. One, When the Director of the Bureau of the Budqet - Director Walters Was before the Appropriations I Committee, she indicated they qoofed - that they should bave had àn the budge: ehe Donative Funds Initiative, that she understood that it was a problem, that she recognized that they made a mistake, and that this was important and it should be done, and that she would get back to us within a week or two of how they would reallocate the funds to contknue the Donative Funds Inktiative Proqrams - some of the best proqrams we happen to have in the State. Well, a week, or two , or 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 three went by, and tben we wrote to her and she said, ''I guess we goofed again, because we donît know what to do: and we don't know if we're going to doy'' even though she said she was going to do it. This does not provide for the Donative Funds Initiatives; it's only a portion of Obviously, it is not a reallocation, and we have Senate Bill 956 later on the Calendar ehat Will , in fact, fund the Donative Punds Initiative. And we believe that is the way it should be done. So I rise in opposition to this amendment, because if welre going to take care of the problem. let's do it, énd do it riqht.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Welch.

Thank you, Mr. President. I kould -- too, Would rise in opposition, and the reason being is that the Donative Funds Initiative is an initiative which actually the Governor should be supporting. One of the points that the Governor made this year in his inauqural address was that he was going to maximize matching funds from other qovernments. And What we have here is a program that will garner tkenty-five percent matching funds. So what we Would like to do is pass a bill further on down the Calendar that Will come up tbis morning, Senate Bill 956, ehak is a nineteen-million-dollar appropriation: which will allow for the match and continue these programs in a11 of our countkes. So I Would urqe -- the opposition to this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? If not, Senator Maitland may close.

Thank you very much, Mr. President. hope everybody's listeninq to what's going on here. In the first committee amendment we put on, we had found nearly eight million dollars. We agreed - Republicans and Democrats - on that. ïou a11 voted 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS h 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 for it. And then a subsequent amendment comes back and puts eight million dollars baek in -- six and a half million dollars back in. Just back in, like nothing. Money we had found to reallocate. We are trying very bard to find the money to fund, that is as high a level possible, some of these inktiatives. 0ur amendment does that. You know that and I know that. Your amendment that will follow -- or your bill that Will follow fully funds DFI at nineteen million dollars - money we don't have, because you put this money back in the Public Aid budget. That's wrong. That 's wrong. And 'everybody knows it. I strongly urge support of the amendment. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATO; DEMUZIO) All right. Senator Maitland has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 371. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wlsh? Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, the -- the Ayes are 28: the Nays are 3l, none voting Present. Amendmenk No. 4 fails. Senator Maitland. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWXER: No further amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Readinq. Senate Bill 372. Senator Maitland. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 3-7- 2, Madam Secretary. SECRETARV RAWRER: Senate Bill 3-7-2. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readin: of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendmenes from the Floor? SECRETARX HAWKER : 100  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Senator Maitland offers Amendment No . 1.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Maitland.

Thank you very much, Mr. -- Mr. President and Members of the - - of the Senate. This again is an amendment that reatloeates. And We We intend to reallocate money so that We can fully fund the -- medical qrants for hemophilias, chronic renal disease, organ transplants, assault prevention: Illinois Cancer Council. We think it is a fair allocation - one that ought to be supported by the Body, and I would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SESATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Maitland has moved tbe adoption of Amendment No. 1. Is there discussion? Senator Berman.

Thank you. This is similar to an amendment that was offered tn commkttee. We defeated there. The problem with the amendment aqain is that We're taking money from needed other human services, such as Families With a Future, and also providinq, in this amendment, add-on money to some other programs. We're also taking money from the WomenIs, Infants and Children's Program . We don't we shouldn't be put into the position at this stage, on this date, of taking money from these very, very necessary services and shufflinq money. I would also point out that this amendment really is misdirected, because it takes 3. 6 million dollars from a program that we :et l. 8 million dollar federal reimbursement from. That's throwin: our good tax dollars down the sewer and not even takkng advantage of the federal money that should be available. So I urqe a No vote on this amendment.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) All right. Further discussion? Senator Collins. Senator Holmberg. l01  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislakive Day May 22# 1991

Thank you, Mr. President. you know, why are you picking on women and children? When -- as you take a look at -- these a11 are concerned with women in pregnancy - at the time when they need to produce healthy offspring. Many of the problems that we :et further down the line, in this very amendment, are caused by not giving the right kind of health care early. Why borrow from a very, very good proqram to do another good deed? Instead, let's keep the money in this program that is primary care, and let's find the monef for the other programs from somewhere else.

PRESIDISG OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Fawell.

Thank you very much: Mr President. Senator, they are not tryinq to take money away from the women and the children. I will defend my colleagues over here. We were told in the Appropriation Committee, by the powers that be in this particular agency, that they do anticipate getting twenty-five percent more from the Federal Government for this proqram . Welre qoing to have so much milk and cheese and formula around in this State, We're going to be drowning in it: if we continue on thîs Way. Xou know, I think this is a good amendment I mean, I think this is -- this is a bad amendment, and think we ouqht to -- it's a good amendment, and I think we ought to afford it. 1'11 get it right yet. We ought to support it.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Al1 right. Is there further clarification? Further discussion? Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I rkse in opposition to this amendment. I think there are some things that have to be clarified. One, this doesy in fact, take 102  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 away money from Families With a Future - case management program that We had unbelievable discussions on last June. Exposes in Chicaqo that We Were not funding. Department -- the directors of khe deparements involved came down and met with each one of us. We had crisis summit meetings to make sure, in fact, that We -- that they - the Department - would seek federal reimbursement, which they had not been doing, and that we - the Legislature committed té funding that program at various levels for last year, this year: and next year, to make sure that the maximum amount that cap be adquired to case manage problem pregnancies to the children with a future, that we would, in fact, fund those at a level. We made a commitment. We have to honor that commitment . We cannot take money away from that commitment. The Department made a commitment that they would seek the federal reimbursement. And We're going to hold them to that. But to take the money away from that program that is so essential for future - the cocaine babies and a1l of those problems that otherwise would exist wlthout this program - is absolueely wrong. To also say that the Federal Government in its largess is'going to give us money for Women, Infant and Children -- now is not the time to say that, because the Director told use and testified: that they cannot be sure. So that if# in fact, this amendment's adopted, they will be taking people off of the program - make no mistake about it Women, Infant and Children Program. People Will have to be reduced from the program. There will be a stoppage of service untàl maybe next May, June, when, in fact, the Federal Government - if they do - give us the money. If We allocate federal funds that do not exist -- the Director has said that the program cannot be based on that - on unknown, at this time, funds - and would, in fact, reduce the caseload - somethin: else We absolutely cannot afford to do. There's no question that these other services need to be provided, but not at this expense. He'1l find other cuts to  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 i make sure the money is there. Not to take it away from the Women , Infant and'Children Program and the Children With a Future - - the Families With a Future, cocaine babies et al. I urqe defeat of this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIQ) Further discussion? If not, Senator Maitland may close.

Thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Case management. Senator Carroll , I stood side by side wtth you a year ago, and vwe increased this provram substantially. We are not cutting this proqram. We are simply allowing it to stay at FY'9l level. Women and children. Senator Holmberg -- Senator Holmberg, we 're not against women and children at all . This is a one-hundred-and-tifty-million-dollar program . We're taking 1.9 from General Revenue to put elsewhere. The program wf11 be fully funded. Congress - House and Senate - are committed to a fifteen-percent increase in the WIC program. The money's going to be there. We've taken money out of operations, so we can fund these programs. That's legitimate. The difference between this side of the aisle and that side of the aisle koday is, you want to use the Governor's budget as a base and add everything on top. Folks, we can't do that. The money isn't there. We have reallocated within this budget. It's the proper way to do it. It Won't hurt people, and will fully fund these programs, And I would move for the adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Maitland has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to senate Bill 372. Those in favor kill vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted Who Wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have al1 voted Who Wish? Take the record. 0n that question: the Ayes are 27, the Nays are 32, none voting Present. Amendment fails. Further amendments? 1û4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22: 1991

Amendment No . 2 offered by Senator Berman.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Berman. Senator Berman withdraWs. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Berman.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Berman -- seeks leave to Withdraw. Purther amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senators Carroll and Hall.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll seeks leave to kithdraw. Withdraw . Senate -- any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. -Senate Bill 373. Madam Secretary, read the bill.

Senate Bill 3-7-3. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING O'FICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemèn of the Senate. This is simply a guidelines amendment, and I move for the adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 105  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Senator Hall moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. is adopted. Further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OEEICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Ploor?

Senators Carroll and Hall offer Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senakor Carroll seeks leave to withdraw. Withdraw. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senate Bil1 374. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 374, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 3-7-4. (Secretary reads title of bilk) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator -- Senator Hall. Senator Hall.

Thank you, Mr. President. This is a guidelines amendment, and I move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hall moves the adoption of Amendnent No. -- Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 374. Discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by sayinq Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes l06  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SEHATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 have Committee Amendment No. l is adopted. Purther committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Thomas Dunn offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Thomas Dunn.

Thank you, Mr. President. This is in the amount of three bundred and sixty-eight thousand dollars. And this' makes reference to the amount of money to the Illinois Vietnam Veterans Leadership Program. To refresh your recollection, this is the money that Senator Dudycz and I went around to each individual Member and asked him or her to sign a letter asking the Governor to restore this money to this program, because it's put to work some eleven thousand five hundred veterans. And I might add that the -- this program - run by this organizatkon - is the only Statewide organization to put people to work. This is not a handout to veterans. This amount of money that has been expended in tbe past has been paid back to the State in the form of income tax by these veterans who now work. And I -- I realize that I'm violating the -- the Hgood ol' boy'' policy - so to speak - here that we withdraw these amendments, but there are just some thinss that -- some days you can't follow the rules, and today is one of them. I kould yield to Senator Dudycz, because he Was helpful on his side of the aisle. We achieved about a ninety-five percent siqnature rating on our letters, and I'd yield to Senator Dudycz .

A1l right. Senator Dunn's moved the adoption of Amendment No. l07  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY RECULAR SESSTON SENATC TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day #ay 22, 1991 Diseussion? Senator Dudycz.

Yes. Thank you, Mr. Preskdent. Just briefly , to add to Senator Dunn: since 1981 the Illinois Vietnam Veterans Leadership Program has been responsible for placinq in employment over eleven thousand five hundred Illinois veterans. And the return to the State in generated income tax revenue has far exceeded the qrant monies allocated to the Illinois Vietnam Veterans Leadership Program . Annually between thirteen and fifteen thousand service personnel are discharge; into the State of Illinois, and it's a good program. I think it deserves everybodyds affirmative vote.

Further discussion? Senator Maitland.

Thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. I -- I recognize the awkwardness of speakinq against this amendment at this particular point in time. As a fellow Marine: it is important to me too. But let me indicate that in the committee amendment, we did put back in this amount of money to the aqency, and they w:ll make the allocation to the various groups. I would suspect, Senator Dunn, that this particular group vould :et most of the money. I belàeve that. But I must rise in opposition. This is an add-on, in addition to the money that we've already put in, and therefore would urge its defeat.

Further discussion? Senator Dunn, Eo close.

Thank you, Mr. President. Well. with all due respect, Senator, I'm not necessarily a believer of What migbt or might not happen around here in the future, and today seems to be a prekty good day eo restore that money . We sit bere honorin: the veterans today, and we sit honoring the -- the troops of Desert Storm: and l08  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 rightfully so. But to refresh your memory to those people, the Vietnam area ' Was one where people fought for their country without their country's support. And we had, you know, body counts of two hundred and fifty: three hundred a week. Today 's a good day to restore khat money.

All riqht. Senator Dunnês moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 374. Further discussion? If not, a1l in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Purther amendments? SECRETAR: HAWKER: Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator J.J . Joyce.

Senator Joyce.

Thank you, Mr. President. At this time -- realize Would be extremely awkward to do this, and I would withdraw it and hope that ke can 9et back to it at -- at a more convenient time.

Amendment's been wkthdrawn. Purtber amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senators Carroll and Hall.

Withdraw, please. Further amendments?

No further amendments .

3rd Reading. Al1 right. Ladies and Gentlemen, we're going to stand at ease for a moment or tko while Senator Mitchler and Senator Sam bring in our honored guesks. I would ask those Members within the sound oe my voice to please join us on the Floor. It is an appropriate annual tradition in the Senate that 109  STATE 0F ILLINQIS 87th GENERAL ASSEKBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legkslatkve Day May 22, 1991 we take a few moments out from our busy schedule in honor of Memorial Day. Upon the conclusion of the service we will reconvene and begin with the Agreed Bill Ltst, and then revert baek to 2nd Reading to finish the appropriation bills and a11 oihers that the Members Wish to address. While the sound equipment ts being set up, I would ask the Members Within the sound of my voice to please join us on the Floor. I thank you all for your presence, and the Ch:ir will yield to Senatot Sam Vadalabene. Senator.

Thank you, Mr. President. Welcome, my fellow Amerieans. We will now start our Memorial Day Servicesz and I am goinq to yield to Senator Mitghler to be your Naster of Ceremonies for today's program.

Thank you, Senator Vadalabene, and welcome, my fellow Americans, to tbe Annual Senate Memorial Day Program. And before we start the formal portion of the program, I would like to introduce some of our honored quests. NoW please hold your applause until I :et the different groups lntroduced. Representing the Illinois National Guard, Major General Harold G. Holesinger - the Adjutant General. Please stand and remakn standing. Brigadier General Donald L. Ksic> (W.) Lynn - Assistant Adjutant General for the Army; Major General Harold R. Patton, Retired - Former Illlnois Adjutant General; Brigadier General Thomas W. Napolitan - Assistant Adjutant General for the Air; Captain John F. Ferguson, Dnited States Naval Reserve, who is the Naval Liaison for the Adjutant General; Colonel Paul G. Gebhardt Briqade Commander, Illinois Arny Guard; and Colonel Riehard McLane - Commander, 183rd Tactical Fiqhter Guard -- Group; Colonel Donald Kunzweiter Director of Public Affairs for the National Guard. Please give these fine gentlemen a round of 110  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 applause. Representing our retired military: Major General Richard H. Mills - United States District Judgey Springfield; Brigadier General Richard E. Northern - Superintendent, Illinois Veterans Home at Quincy. Please give these gentlemen a round of applause. Representinq our Illinois Department of Veterans Affairs: Colonel Robert J. Posharde U.S. Army, Retired - now the nek Director, Illinois Department of Veterans Affairs. We had Mr. John J. Houlihan, U.S. Marine Corps, World War II. He's Past Director of the Illinois Department of Veterans Affairs. He's the legislattve llaison for the Illinois State Treasurer, and he had a bill come up in the House and he asked to be exeuseö to 9et over there to do his duty. Mr. David V. Hardwick Past Director, Illinois Department Veterans Affairs, and currently the Deputy Director, Department Children and Family Services. And now representing our Illinois Veterans and their auxiliaries: the Illinois Department Commander Thomas Rizzo - the American Legion; Illinois Department Commander Raymond W . ''Burrhead'' Lamkin AMVETS; and representing the Vaughn Paralyzed Veterans James Lahr, seated over here in his chair; Mrs. Helen L. Malanoski Illinois Department Presidente American Legion Auxiliary; Mrs. Lorraine Hanson-Taylor - Illinois Department President, Veterans of Foreign Wars in the United States Auxiliary; Mrs. Rathryn J. Rutledge - Illinois Department President, Military Order of the Purple Heart; and Ray Schoden - Past National Commander, Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States; Vincent Sanzotta Department Adjutant, the American Legion, Department of Illinois. Please give them a hand. At this time I am proud to present aqain the Color Guard, Drummer and Bugler, representing the 114th Reqlment, Reactivated Illinois Volunteer Infantry, who kill parade the colors. Please stand, and salute. (Fresentation of the Colors)

l11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 Now it is a great pleasure to present and welcome home members of the 233rd Military Police Company: based at Sprinqfield, from the Illinois Army Rational Guardw and Members of the 183rd Fighter Tactical Group, based with the Illinois Air Guard here in Springfield. And theydre going to be led in by First Lieutenant Kevin Keen: who is a Police Officer in the Springfield Police Department. Mr. Doorkeeper, please enter the Desert Storm , Persian Gulf returnees. (Entrance of Veterans of Desert Shield/storm in the Persian Gulf)

Welcome home, and thanks for the victory. Please remain standing while Emily Andergan of Aurora: Illinois, leads in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United Statesz follbwed by the opening prayer by Senator Kenneth Hall, and the singin: of ''The Star Spangled Banner'' our National Anthem - by Karen Roberts of the First Presbyterian Church of Aurora. Emily.

(Emily Anderson leads the Pledge of Allegiance) SENATOR MITCHLERI Senator Hall.

(Opening Prayer by Senator Ha11) SENATOR MITCHLERZ Mrs. Karen Roberts, singing the National Anthem. ''THE STAR SPANGLED BANNER'' (Raren Roberts)

Please be seated. Thank you, Karen Roberts. Well done. Miss Erica Anderson of Aurora, Illinois, will now read General John W . John A. Loqan's General Order creaeing the Pirst Memorial Day. ll2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Erica Anderson.

lErica Anderson reads General John A. Logan's Order for the Fàrst Memorial Day)

Thank you, Erica Anderson. Senator Margaret Saith will noW introduce a special guest of honor for remarks. Senator Smith.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen that are present here toiay. I am honored at this time to present a constituent of the 12th Senatorial District of Chicago, Illinoisz in my district. Captain Ernest A. Griffin' Illinois Militia, is a descendent of Private Charles H. Griffin, of the Union Army durinq the Civil War. Private Griffin enlisted at Camp Douqlas in Chicago and served the 29th Regàmente of the U.S.C.T. Infantry, Company B, in the year 1864. Captain Ernest A . Griffin is the owner and operator of the Griffin Funeral Rome, khich is loeated at 3232 Soutb Martin Luther King Jr. Drive: Chicago, the site of the former Camp Douglas. During the Civil War, Camp Douglas was used to train Union Soldiers and later used as a Prisoner of War Camp for captured Confederate soldiers. Captain Ernest A. Griffin recently had constructed a memorial adjacent to the Griffin Funeral Home, whieh serves as a memorial to those who served in the military during the Civil War. Captain Griffin is active in community affairs in the City of Chicago and comes to Springfleld today to join in honorin: our Illinois Veterans in the Annual Senate Memorial Day Program. Accompanying him is his lovely wlfe, Alyce - will you please stand - and Dr. and Mrs. Solomon Binn IIIy Who is the Pastor of the St. Paul Church here in Springfield, Illinoks. I am pleased to present and introduce to all, Mr. Ernest A . Griffàn.

l13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGOLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 Thank you, Senator Smith, Ladies and Gentlemen, official representattves of the State of Illinois. Ik is indeed a privilege and a pleasure for me to stand in this hallowed spot this day and to share in the tribute to those men Who represented our country in the conflict between the States. Senator Smith 's remarks have alluded to the history of Camp Douglasy which unfortunately is a sad and long story. But we must bear in mind that those men - six thousand of them - who served as Confederate soldiers, who died on the site of Civil War Camp Douglas -- before they were Confederate soldiers, they were sons of God. is incumbent upon us to pay tribute to those men who shared, who gave their life blood in a cause they considered correct. All who share in eonflict are of the belief that God is on their side. Fortunately, our side was victorious. Today we are ''one nation under God. indivisible. with liberty and justice for all.' I am privileqed and pleased to be able to quote our loved and belate President Abraham Lincoln, when he qave those immortal words, ''With malice toward none.'' Today, yes, we fly the stars and stripes. We also f1y the stars and bars, but bearing in mind flaq etiquette, is just a little lower, but we do remember those men who gave kheir life. Many of those six thousand men Whose death occurred on the site of Civil War Camp Douglas wrote in eheir individual -- their personal diaries, their dyin: words, their Wishes for this country - the liberty that we a1l enjoy this day. Again, I thank you for the privileqe and the opportunity of sharlng in tbis Memorial Service to those men of b0th sldes. 1 invite all who have the opportunity to visit the site of the Heritage Memorial Wall: which our beloved and qreat friend, the retired Senator Robert Mitchler, helped dedicate one year ago: May 26 of 1990. He represented the State of Illinois and the Governor and the liaison division of the Veterans' Affairs of the State of Illinois. Again, I say it is a privilege and pleasure to share  STATE OP TLLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 this proqram and I thank my special host of this day, Senator Mitchler. END 0F TAPE TAPE 3 ''THE DNION POREVER'' (Buqler Steve Hall & Drummer Joseph Richiésa)

Thank you very Ruch, Captain Griffin. Erica Anderson will now read a poem. It's titled l'America's Best.'' This poem was read at a support group meeting held in Western Springs: Illinois. Now, for the benefit of those that Were not in the states and were deployed, while you were deployed, many support qroups formed in many of our towns, large and small, the communities. In other Words, they wanted to support the mothers, the fathers, the wives, the families, the husbands of those troops that were deployed. And Jan Rizzo of North Riversidee Illinois, composed this poem that Was read. When we heard it, we put it on a small card - it was a red card at that time - and We said, ''Happy Valentine's Day#* and we mailed thousands to the troopsz and sailors, and soldiers, marines, airmen, coastguardsnen over in Desert Storm and Desert Shield in the Persian Gulf. And then after Valentine's Day, we shifted to a gold 'card that said, ''Spring Holiday Greetings.'' And after the spring passed, we turned it into a blue card that has been distributed on your desks, and beneath it we are proud to say, ''Welcome Home. Thanks for the victory.f' So now we will have the reading of that poem by Erica Anderson.

l15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENCRAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 America's Best are not yet at home. They've been called to the Middle East Where they're shoking the World what freedom means and that tyranny must cease. American's Best left their families to fight for a greater eause, and their efforts in Baghdad and Kuwait deserve tbe world's applause. America prays tor America's Best. May God keep them in his tender eare. Amerkca's heart is missing a pieee. It's with America's Best over there. Yes, Aaeriea's Best are not yet at home; they have other œork to do. So, here's to you - America's Best; America's so proud of you! Welcome home. Thanks for the victory.

think that expresses the feeling of the people back home to those that were deployed. I would like to noW call to the President's Rostrum First Lieutenant Kevkn Keen. He's the Commanding Officer of the 233rd Military Police Companyy Illinois National Guard, and ask him for a few remarks on behalf of his men and women. who recently returned from the Persian Gulf Operation. Ftrst Lieutenant Kevin Keen.

Senator Rock and distinguished government leaders, General Holesinger and distinguished military leaders and friends, I am truly humbled to stand before you today as your invited guest alonq with my fellow 233rd Military Police Company Unit members. I wish to express to you tbe extreme feeling of prkde we have for bein: allowed to share this tlme with you and to occupy these Chambers with such respected leaders. All of us presenely enjoy a time when every American can stand up and be proud to simply boast of being an American. As a result of a united effort across the Nation, the soldier of today can boast of victortes Won presently; the soldter of yesterday can boast of victories of battles past; and the soldier of tomorrow can look ahead with assurance that his or her efforts will be supported by a grateful Natton. The l16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GERERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 cktizens of Amerkca can boast their unswerving allegiance to the eause and their support for both the soldier anG his leaders whose decisions shaped the outcome of this historical period in our history. And perhaps most noteworkhy is the right to boast by the members of the political community. The unity displayed in the politieal arena among world, national, state and community leaders is commendable. You put aside partisan views and jointly expended countless hours of dedicated effort to provide the many facets of support needed to ensure a favorable resolution to this erisis; a erisis we al'l - citizeny soldier and politician won colleetively. As a soldier: I thank the public for their support and told them that they could be proud of their efforts. As a citizen soldker, 1 wish ko convey that same feeling to eaeh'of you sktting before me and your peerl alike. Xou a11 can be proud of your efforts as well, and you can stand as tall as any soldker returning from the Gulf. The presence of we soldiers here today, by your invitation is a symbol of your appreciation and support of our accompllshments. On Tuesday, May 14thy as Commander of the troops, I was honored by the opportunity to address the eitizens outslde these walls and thank them for their support. Today y I have the even qreater honor to stand before you here Within these walls and be provided the opportunity to address you. With that, I ask thae on behalf of a11 the troops who returned home and those yet abroad: that you accept this citiaen soldier's sincere thanks for your Gedication to duty. God bless you all. ''EANPARE POR THC COMMON MAN'' (Copeland) ''MEE' MR. LINCOLN'I (A READING BY THE REVEREND RICHARD W. ANDERSON) My fellow Americans, I'm qlad to know that so many years after 117  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 my own day there still is a union of fellow Americans. I say that for the times in which we lived were so incredibly difficult; that I was not lonq sure that this Nation Would survive. almost hesitate to address you Americans here today, for your times and difficulties are very different from the ones that I faced. And yet, are we al1 not like that farmer who lost his Way on the western frontier? Night was coming on as well as a storm that peed upon his head, but he trudged on in the darkness, until finally a liqhtning bolt drove him to his knees. He Was not a prayerful mai, but he looked up at the heavens, and he said, f'Oh God, hear my prayer. Thou knowest it ks not often that 1 cry out to Thee. But if be possible, give us a little more light and a little less noise.'' I hope today that I offer you some of the light which helped me survive my very dark days. I pray that will be more than just noise. In my second inaugural address quoted the gaspel of Matthew, Chapter l8, Verse 7, where the Lord Jesus says, ''Woe to the world for a11 its evilé. Temptation to do wrong is inevitable, but Woe to the man Who does the tempting.'' Woe to the world for a1l its evils. I believe this man, Jesus, meant that every sin, as well as every virtuous deed, has its social consequence. Evil may be personal, but it is never private. In 1619: a Dutch ship landed at Jamestown and unloaded twenty slaves. We didn't think it to be an important matter at the time, and in the next two hundred years, not one American in ane hundred owned slaves. We thought a small thing. Bue then, E1i Whitney invented the cotton gin and that camel that had merely pushed his nose under the tent before, came in With his whole body. Slavery was not only tolerated: it was also thought to be a good thing, even among ministers in the name of Him who said, ''Do unto others as you Would have them do unto youv'' K Whole generation of holy men began advising white Christians from their pulpits to do to a whole race of people what they would have no ll8  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 3ls* Legislative Day May 22, 1991 man do to themselves. By 1860, five hundred thousand slaves Were owned by Methodist, Baptist and Episcopal ministers. To my way of thinking, they brought more shame upon God and His Church than did Satan when he tempted Jesus in the wilderness with a1l the kingdoms of the world. Satan was certainly no more false and far less hypocritical. They were blinded to their sin by their oWn selfish interests. It Was slavery that challenged us, but you have an equally dangerous threat at your doorstep. It wears the face of prejudice and unfairness. This was the challenge that was ours, but do' not underestimate the challenge which is yours. salute to you Desert Storm veterans here today and for the tyranny you suppressed in the Middle East. But lek us not be naive. The greatese danger to these Dnited States will be at our own hands. The greatest threat to America will not come from a Russia or from an Iraq. Even the most barbaric army under an Adolf Hitler or a Saddam Hussein is not as great a threat to these United States as that which will come at the hands of us as individuals and as a country. The Lord Jesus also said, ''Temptation to do wron: is inevitable.'' I wonder what he meant by that. I believe he meant that he bas us a11 hanging in the balance, and without Him we Will not succeed. I said to a friend before I was elected President, ''I know there i: a God: and he hates injustice and slavery. I can see the war coming, and I know that His hand is in it.'' I Wrote a letter, just this day: to a colleague in our Nation's capital. Think it very appropriate for this gathering. Listen to this excerpt: ''As a Nation, We began by declaring that all men are created equal, and now we read that all men are created equal except Negroes. Others would like to have it reade 'A1l men are created equal except Negroes, foreigners and Catholies.' And when it comes to this, should prefer immigrating to some other country where they make no pretense of loving liberty. To Russia, for instanee, Where despotism can be taken pure, Wàthout the base 119  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRTPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 alloy of hypocrisy.f' Also, my second inaugural address: ''Jesus said, 'Woe to khe man who does the tempting. ''' I believe by that he meant that there is a special place in hell for those Who hurt ehiloren and the helpless. But I believe also he meant there's a special place in Paradis: for those who would show ehose children a vision of a new future, and I want you to know that that is your responsibility, to see that that is fulfilled. In Edwardsville, in 1858, raised the question, what constitutes the bulwark of our own liberty? It is not our guns or armies. Our reliance is ih the love of liberty which God has planted in our bosoms - a liberty which is the heritaqe of a11 people in a1l lands. If, in any way, you trample on the ràghes of another, as some foreign powers are doing in this very hour, then you are plantkng the seeds of slavery at your own door. As I kould not be a slave, so I would not be any man's master. This expresses my idea of democracy. I understand that the Vice President of these United States, Dan Quayle, refused to play golf at a seqregated country club last year. I salute him. His example was the question at stake. And some of you are members ot organizations that have segregated membership policies, and I Would ask you to raise some questions about those policies. Now there's a pastor up in Aurora, Illinois, who likes to talk about faith genes, and by that he means those who got a qood start in this life spiritually. I think some of you Wonder if Abraham Lincoln was ever a Christian. Well: I'm here today to set the record straight on that subject. You see, back in 1809, ehere was a revival in Kentucky. Peter Cartwright was th: preacher. And a youn: man by the name of Tom Lincoln and a young lady by the name of Nancy Hanks got up and started danctng and skngànq. And I was the offsprinq of that relationship. It was on my mother's knee that I learned the Ten Commandments. When she 1ay dying: When I Was only nine years old, and she called me to her bedside and she 120  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leglslative Day May 22, 1991 said, ''Abraham, I'm going away and I shall not return. I kant you to be kind to your father and I want you to live by What I've taught you. Love God and keep his Commandmentso '' And I want you to know that anytime I was tempted to do evil, I could hear the very clear tones of my mother in my ear . ''I am the Lord, Thy God, who brought Thee out of the Land of Egypt: out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not bear false witness. Thou sbalt not kill. Thou shalt not steal. And after she passed away, my father married another fine Christian woman by tbe name of Sarah Bush Johnston Lincoln, and she took ne regularly to the Pigeon Creek Hardshell Baptist . L Church. Well, when I left this ciey to be Presidene of ehe United States, 1 asked the people to pray for me. Rnd I would have to tell you, I kas not a Christian when I left Springfield. And as difficult a: that Civil War was on this President, I must tell you the greatest personal tragedy I ever faced in my life was the loss of my little boy, Willie. This little boy was the apple of my eye. And I grieved terribly over his loss. My grief was so enormous that there were times when I would sit in my office on Thursdays and 1 would receive no one. An; one Thursday sat there a11 night with my head in hands between my knees in prayer. And when my eabinet came in the next morning, they heard me saying, ''My God, my God, 1et this cup pass me by. '' There kas a preacher in NeW York City, a rector at Trinity Church there: by the name of Doctor Prancis Vincent, kho knew of my grief. He was an acquainkance of my wife's, and he came ko me and he saide HMr. Lincoln, you must not grkeve ltke thks for little Wittie . '' He said, 'Little Willie is alive. He's in Paradise. He's with God. '' And I said to him, 'Sir, you mock me.' He said, 'No, Mr. President, it is the surest, most comforting docerine in our Scriptures. He is alive. Our God is not a God who is dead. He is alive.'' And I leapt up out of my seat and I threw my arms  I I STAT: OF ILLINOIS 87th CENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22: 199: around him and I hugged him, and ke wept together profusely. But I want you to know that nothing changed me more than going to Gettysburg. And you ucderstand that I gave what Was called ''The Perfect Address.'' But what you don't know is that I stood there, and I looked out over forty-three thousand white crosses of fallen soldiers, not unlike the ones we lost in the Persian Gulf. And it was there that I finally consecrated my life to this man, Jesus. And only had eighteen Ronths of close fellowshkp with him . I want you to know that the last bill that was signed into law at my inktiative was tbe mandate to put the words ''In God We Trust'' on our coins. And in my last cabinet meetinq, I said to my staff people, ''There will be no venqeance, no recrimination taken against the South, malice toward none, charity for a11. '$. I Was even raislng the issue of having a National Day of Thanksgivlng for this land, which you now enjoy. The war exhausted me. And the day in which I was shot, April l4, 1865, *e received news that the kar was over. Mary and I had not spent much time together, and she wanted me to go to a play that evening and see HOur American Cousin.'' And that same dayz a very well-known actor in our day by tbe name of John Wilkes 800th spent the afternoon sipping brandy in a local tavern. And as we sat in our Presidential box there in Ford's Theater, the soldier who was to have stood quard left his station and he went to a nearby tavern. And while we were sitting there in the Presidential box in an kntermisskon at the play, I turned to my wife and 1 said to hery ''Mary, some time soon we must qo to the Near East . '' And John Wilkes 800th opened the door of our Presidenkial box. I sasd, ''Mrs. Lincoln, we must qo to Bethlehem and see Where this Jesus was born, and we must walk in his hallowed steps at Bethany. '' Mr. 800th came behind me and pointed his derringer at the back of my head. I saidp l'Mary, we must go up to Jeru --'' Jerusalem . I never saw *he earthly Jerusalem, but I've been to the Heavenly l22  STATE OP ILLINOIS ' 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Jerusalem the very Paradise of God - and it's everything he promised us. So if you had any doubts about this sixteenth President being a Christian, hope I've allayed those doubts today. But more importantly, what are you? And how are you leading this State? You see, my friendsz we cannot eseape history. We will be remembered in spite of ourselves. We hold the power and bear the responsibility. In helping our neighbors to wholeness and freedom, we assure wholeness and freedom for ourselves. So shall we nobly save or meanly lose the last best hose of Earth. This I believe: and I remain - your obedient servant, Abraham Lincoln. ''BATTLE HXMN OF TEE REPUBLIC'' (Bugler Steve Hall & Drummer Joseph Richiusa)

Tbank you: Reverend Anderson. We Will now have a quartet composed of Karen Robertsp Tim Henaughan, Karol Kingsley and Reverend Richard Anderson, and they will now sinq ''America the Beautifule'' followed by the closing prayer by the President of our Illinois State Senate, Philip J. Rock, the soundinq of ''Taps'' and ehe Retiring of the Colors. ''America the Beautifulo'' ''AMERICA THE BEAUTIPUL'I (Quartet)

Senator Rock: With the closing prayer.

(Closin: Prayer by President Roek) ,,vwps'' 123  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 (Bugler Steve Hall and Drummer Joseph Richiusa)

Retire the Colors. And salute. (RETIRING OP THE COLORS) lcolor Guard, Buqler & Dtummer) (114th Regiment, Reactivated Illinois Volunteer Infantry)

... tmachine cutoffl.o.be seated. We are pleased today to have had some very special friends and guests of our program participants, and I#d like to recognize them at this time. And again: please hold your applause until they are a1l introduced. Mrs. Alyce Griffin, the wife of Ernest Griffin, who spoke to us representin: the Civil War. Alyce Griffin. Mrs. Jan Anderson, wife of Reverend Anderson. Pleased to present my wife, Helen. Please give these ladies a hand. We also have seated in the rear of the Senate Chambers representatives of Illknois veteransl organizations and their lady auxiliary units. Would you please rise and give them applause. And when Reverend Anderson announced in his church - the First Presbyterian Church of Aurora - that he had been ànvlted to speak to the Illinois State Senate, members of his church requested permksskon - I don't know why they have to have the permission - but they wanted permission to come down and come to the Senate and partake of this program. Seated in the gallery and in the rear are some thirty menbers of the Pirst Presbyterian Church of Aurora who have come to Springfield today to join us in this Annuat Senate Memorial Day Program. Pkease rise and be recognized by the Senate. appreciate tbe opportunity for helping my colleague of many years, Senator Vadalabene, in presenting this program to you. I now turn it back l24  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legkslative Day May 22# 1991 to Senator Vadalabene.

Thank you very much, Senator Mitchler. I know that Bob put in a hard -- a 1ot of hard work on this program. This is one of the fknest Memorial Day Services that I can remember. Let's give Bob Mitchler a round of applause. That concludes our program. There ill be a brief recess - a very brief recess - before I turn the gavel back to Senator Rock, so you can visit with your friends. Thank you. (RECESS) (SENATE RECONVENES)

The Senate wtll reconvene. While our guests are certainly most welcome to stay and exchange qreetings, would ask the Secretary to -- and turn the attention of the Membership to Page 18 on the Calendary on the Order of Senate Bills 3rd -- 3rd Reading. We will read the Agreed Senate Bill List No. 2 for a third time. Mr. Secretary.

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAPRV) Senate Bill 8. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 9. (Secretary reads titlè of bi11) Senate Bill l6. (Secretary reads title of bi11) Senate Bill 19.' (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill l25  STATE OF ILLINGIS 87th GENCRAL ASSEMBL: REGULAR SZSSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22e 1991 (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 45. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 55. (Secretary reads title of bi11) Senate Bill 60. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 63. (Secretary reads titte of bi11) Senate Bk1.l 6%. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 68. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 86. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 91. (Searetary reads kitle of bill) Senate Bill 94. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 101. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 102. (Seeretary reads title of bill) Senate Bi11 104. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 105. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bi1l 108. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 122. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 125. 126  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87*h GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st tegislative Day May 22. 1991 (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 152. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 154. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 158. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 162. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 177. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 181. tsecretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 185. (Secretary reads tikle ot bill) Senate Bill 186. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 187. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senake Bill 189. (Secretary reads tltle of bill) Senate Bill 196. (Seeretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 225. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 229. (Seeretary reads title of bil1) Senate Bi11 238. (Seeretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 246. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bi11 247. 127  N STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate. Bill 249. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 250. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 251. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bi11 253. (Secreeary reads eitle of bill) Senate Bill 262. (Secretary reads title of bill) Slnate Bil1 263. (Secretary reads title of bil1) Senate Bill 264. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bkl1 266. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bk1l 278. (Seeretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 298. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 307. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 317. (Secretary reads title of bill) senaee Bill 318. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 326. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 332. tsecretary reads title of bill) Senate Bi11 333. 128  STATE OP TLLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBL: REGZLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislakive DaY May 22y 1991 (Secretary reads title of bill) senate Bill 381. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 386. tsecretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 398. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 407. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 416. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 420. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 426. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 429. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 435. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 438. (Secretary reads title of b1ll) Senate Bill 442. (Secretary reads titte of bill) Senate Bill 446. (Secretary reads eitle of bill) Senate Bill 451. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 453. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 461. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 477. 129  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31se Legislative Day May 22, 1991 (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 488. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 490. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 505. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 506. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 511. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 523. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 529. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 531. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 536. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 539. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 541. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 543. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 548. (Seeretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 549. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 557. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 566. 130  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GEKERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SZSSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Da# May 22, 1991 (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 580. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 585. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 593. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 600. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 609. (Secretary reads title of bill) 'Senate Bill 616.' (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 621. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 626. (secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 628. (Secretary reads title of bill) Sezaee Bill 638. (secretary reads title of bill) Genate Btll 642. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 643. (Secretary reads title of bill) senate Bill 647. (Secretary reads title of bàll) Senate Bill 649. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 650. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 654. l31  STATE og zLszxozs 87th GENERAL ASSEMDL: REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legïslative Day May 22, 1991 (Seeretary reads title of b:ll) Senate Bill 658. (Secretary teads tktle of bill) Senate Bi11 659. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 660. (Secretary reads title ot bilt) Senate Sill 661. (Secretary reads tltle of bill) Senate Bill 667. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate 3ill 670. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 672. (Seeretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 686. tseeretary reads kitle of bill) senate Bill 692. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 693. (Secretary reads title of blll) Senate Bill 697. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bil1 699. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 705. (Secretary reads title of bitl) Senate Bill 715. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 717. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 721. 132  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY RCGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22. 1991 (Secretary reads title of b111) Senate Btll 741. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 744. (Secretary reads title of bklk) Senate Bill 771. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bàl1 779. (Secretary reads title of bttl) Senate Bi11 784. (Secretary reads title of bill) Sènate Bill 785. (Secretary reads title of b1ll) Senate Bill S05. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 806. (Secrekary reads title of bi11) Senate Bill 813. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 816. (Secretary reads tttle of bill) Senate B1l1 817. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 818. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 822. (Secretary reads tàtle of bàll) Senate Bill 825. (Secretary reads kitle of b1ll) Senate Bill 826. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 834.  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSSMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22y 1991 (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 837. (Secretary reads title of bill) senate Bill 841. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 847. (Secretary reads title of bi11) Senake :111 883. (Secretary reads title or bill) Senate Bill 885. lseeretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 904. (Secretary reads title of bitk) Senate Bi1l 907. (Secretary reads title of btlt) Senate Bill 910. (Secretary reads title of bt11) senate Bill 911. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 912. lsecretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 924. (Seeretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 927. (Secretary reads title of bi1l) Senate Bill 928. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill No. 945. (Secretary reads title of b1l1) Senate Bill 964. (Secretary reads title cf bill) Senate Bill 971 . 134  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TNANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 972. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 979. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 980. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 981. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 986. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 992. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 999. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1009. (Secretary reads tttle of bill) Senate Bill 1016. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senake Bill 1018. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1020. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1022. (Secretary reads title of bill) senate Bi11 1031. (Secretary reads ti*le of bill) Senate Bill 1032. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1037. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1039. 135  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 tsecretary reads title of billj senate Bill 1047. (secretary reads title of bill) senate Bill 1048. (Secretary reads title of bi1l) Senaee Bill 1054. (Seeretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1060. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1061. (Secretary reads title ot bill) Senate Bill 1071. fsecretary reads title of bill) Senate Sill 1073. (Secretary reads tiele of bill) Senate Bill 1076. (Secretary reads ettle of bill) Senate Bill 1078. (Secretary reads title of billj Senate Bill 1079. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1086. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate aill 1095. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1105. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate pill 1107. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate 3i11 1111. (Secretary reads title of bkl1) senate Bil1 1146. 136  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87*h GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGOLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRTPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1147. (Secretary reads tikle o' bill) Senate Bi11 1148. lsecretary reads title of bill) Senate Bil1 1169. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1171. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1172. (Secretary reads title of bilt) Senate Bi11 1186. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1189. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate 3i11 1191. (Secretary reads title of bil1) Senate Bill 1192. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1193. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1207. tsecretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1215. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1217. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1225 . (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1227. (Secretary reads tiele of bill) Senate Bill 1241.  STATE OF TLLINOTS 87tb GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1271. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1273. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1277. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1278. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1280. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1293. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1294. (Secretary reads title of b1ll) Senate Bill 1300. (Seeretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1306. (Secretary reads title of b1ll) Senate Bill 1309. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1313. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1319. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Sill 1320. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1322. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1323. (Secrdtary reads titàe ok bill) Senate Bill 1329. l38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TNANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1342. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1343. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1351. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1356. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bil.l 1358. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1370. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1374. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate B:l1 1378. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1380. (Secretary reads title of bill) senate Bill 1404. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1405. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1406. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senaee Bill 1407. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bàll 1410. (secretary reads title of bàll) Senate Bill 1421. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1423. l39  STATE OF ILLIHOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 (Secretary reads titke of bkkl) Senate Bill 1431. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1455, (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1470. (Secretary reads title of bill) And Senate Bill 1471. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bills.

The next roll call will be on flnal passage of the bills just read by the Secretary. Question is, shall this series of bills pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed Will vote Nay. And the voting is open. A1l voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 59 Ayesz no Nays, none voting Present. This series of bills, havinq received a constitutional majority by record vote, is declared passed. And the record vote for each bill passed shall be entered in the Journal. All right. Ladies and Gentlemen, We would again revert now to tbe Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading. We will finish the appropriation bills and then start at the top of Senate Bills 2nd Reading and go through that series of bills. And then we Will begin -- at the conclusàon of Senate Bills 2nd, We will begin on Senate Bills 3rd at the Eop, and try to go throuqh that Order of Business. If any Members have bills they wish to recall, please 1et the Secretary know so that they can be placed on the list. We'll try to get to a Recall List prior to the close of business today. It is the intent of the Chair, again, to work until approximately six o'clock. Resolutions. Let's do it. SECRETAR: HAWKERI 140  87S tT hAT GS ENO EF RAL ILL AI SN SO EI MS BLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22 , 1991 senate Resolution 423 offered by Senator Brookins. And Senate Resolution 424 offered by Senator Daley. They're both conqratulatory. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Brookins. SENATOR BROOKINS: Thank you, Mr. President. On Senate Resolution 423: may I have leave to have it -- heard immediately so it can be presented tomorrow? PRESIDENT ROCK: ' A1l riqht. The Gentleman has a congratulatory resolution. Heîs asked leave ko suspend #he rules for the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Resolution 423. Al1 in favor of the Motion to Suspend, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The rules are suspended. Senator Brookins now moves the adoption of Senate Resolution 423. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indkcate by saykng Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The resolution is adopted. The other resolution: Madam Secretary - 424 - will be placed on Ehe Consent Calendar. Al1 riqht. Senator Carroll, I think we left off with 409. All right. Ladies and Gentlemeny we're going to continue on with the appropriation bills, and then we will begin again on the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading on Page 2 and go riqht through that Order of Business. Aqain, if any Members have a bill on 3rd that they wish to recall, please afford the Secretary the courtesy of filing the amendment so they can get it on the list. On tbe Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 409, Madam Secretary. Read *he blll, please. SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Bill 409. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Appropriations I offers 14l i  I STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Committee Amendment No. 1. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment No. 1. SENATOR CARROLL: Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate . This was the addition of a signed Court of Claims award, and I would move its adoption. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment ' No. 1 to Senate Bill 409. Any discussion? If not, all in favor, ' indicate by sayinq Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: No further committee amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: Are there amendments from the Ploor? SECRETARY HAWKER: Senator Carroll offers Amendment No. 2. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Carroll, on Amendment No. 2. SENATOR CARROLL: Thank you, Mr. President: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No . 2 is similar to ones wegve had before where the Court has, in fact, sent us a communique, that but for the absence of an appropriation, they would have signed an award. This was approved by *he entire Court. It's one of Eheir advisory ones to us, and this was for the State of Illinois Center. I would move its adoption. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Carroll has moved the adoptkon of Anendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 409. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's 142  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offezed by Senator Carroll.

Senator Carroll.

Thank youz Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. We just received last Week - and both staffs have analyzed and found it to be correct - an additional grouping of awards of about eight hundred and fifty-one tbousand. In an effort to 9et these people paid as quick as practicablee I would move adoption of Amendment No. 3. PRESIDENT ROCKZ Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Amendment No . to Senate Bill 409. Discussion? Tf not, all in favor, indicate by sayin: Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 440. Senator Philip. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 440. lsecretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Commlttee on Appropriations I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll, on Committee Amendment Ro. 1.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the guidelines amendment, and I would move its adoption. 143  I STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GEXERAL ASSEMBLY AEGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

Senator. Carroll has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 440. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

Senators Carroll and -- Hall offer Comnittee Amendment pardon me -- Amendment No. 2.

Withdraw, please. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. If you turn to Page 8 on the Calendar, Senator Maitland, on 855. Read the bill. Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 855. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Ploor?

Senator Maitland offers Amendment No. 2 -- No . 1, pardon me.

Senator Maitland, on Amendment No.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Amendment No. l reduces the appropriation to one dollar. I would move for l44 I STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 the adoption. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Maitland's moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 855. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: No further amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: 3rd ReadinM. 953. Senator Carroll. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HKWKER: Senate Bill 953. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: Any amendments from the Ploor? SECRETARX HAWKER: No Floor amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: 3rd Reading. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 954. Read the bill, Madam Seeretary. SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Bill 958. PRESIDENT ROCK: 54. SECRETARY HAWKER: Pardon me# 954. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: Any amendments from the Floor? 145  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SBNATC TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22r 1991 SECRETARY HAWKER: No Floor amendmenks. PRESIDENT ROCV: 3rd Reading. On the Order of Senat e Bills 2nd Readin: is Senate Bill 955. Read the bill . please. SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Bill 955. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments . PRESIDENT ROCX: Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKER: No Floor amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: 3rd Readinq. On the Order of S enate Bills 2nd Reaöing ks Senate 3ill 956. Senator Hall. Read the bill, please. SECRETARX HAWKER : Senate Bill 956. (Secretary reads title of billj 2nd Readàng of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: Are there amendments from t* e Floor?

Excuse Re . Excuse me# Senator. Committee on Appropriations 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

senator Hall, on Conmittee Amendment No. i .

Thank you, Mr . President. 1,11 defer to my vkce chakrman Senator Welch . , PRESIDENT ROCK; Senator Welchy on Pommittee Amendment No . 146  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 I

Thank you, Mr. President. This is the amendment restoring the DFI Program - the Donated Punds Initiative. The level we have funded it at is 19.1 million dollars. The Donated Funds Initiative matches local money. Local money of twenty-five percent is matched against seventy-five percent the State puts up. This is a program that a1l of us have heard about from our local constituents. It serves thousands of people throughout the State. Earlier, before the veterans' ceremony, there was an amendment offered .by Senator Maitland that would have restored twelve millkon dollars. We asked many of you not to vote for that, in the hopes that this amendment and this bill would pass with 19.1 million, which is what has been requested by us. I'd be glad to answer any questions.

A11 right. Senator Welch has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 956. Discussion? Senator Maitland.

Thank -- thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. A question of the sponsor, if he'll yield.

Sponsor indicates he will yield, Senator Maitland.

ï I Would assume, Senator Welch, that you have found a revenue source to fund this now. I Wonder if you could identify that to us, please?

Senator Welch.

Senator Maitland, as you knoW, we have made some cuts today. We have made some restorations. We think that it's too early to 147  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLV RECULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 cut back on the Donated Funds Initiative before the end of June. As you know, there's going to be negotiations goin: on, and think we should send a message over to the House that the Senate wants to fund this at its maximum amount - 19. 1 million dollars. The fundin: is something we're going to continue to look for, but it doesn't make sense not to fund this appropriately before we send it over there. So I think that that is something that we Will use as a tatget to reach When We start talking about raiskng money. PRESIDENT ROCk: Further discussion? Senator Maitland.

Well, thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Senator Welch, you and I both know that -- that you put the money all back in that We had taken out, and you put in the personal services line item, so We -- it's not qoing to benefit anyone. And now you are asking, with no money, no revenue stream whatsoever, to put in nineteen million dollars into a very worthwhile program. Nobody's arguing thae. We want to work together to try to fund tbis program at the bighest possible level, but this is also the wronq siqnal to send. And the amendment ought to be rejected.

A1l right. Senator Welch has moved the adoption of Committee ï Amendment No. 1. Purther dkscussion? Senator Welch: do you Wish to close?

Mr. President: I'd just say that only six hundred thousand dollars of the 19.1 goes to administration, according to our fkgures, and the rest goes for proqrammatic local programs. would urge a favorable vote.

148  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 All right. Senator Welch has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 956. Roll call has been requested. Those in favor of the amendment Will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have all voted who Wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 34 Ayes, 20 Nays, none voting Present. Amendment No. l is adopted. Further amendments?

No furthei amendments.

3rd Reading. 958. Senator Hall. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 958. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readin: of the bill. No committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Ploor?

' Senator Berman offers Amendment No.

I'm going to have to break up the conference at Senator Brookins' desk, please. Senator Berman: on Amendment No. 1. t

Thank you, Mr. President. This adds six hundred and fifty thousand dollars for the urban edupation grants. I think many of us are familiar with this. This is the adopted child of Heidi Beiderman of the Large Unit Distrlct Association. It's directed for improved student outcomes. Senate Bill 725 is the substantive bill in there, and addresses ehe needs of children in their educational proqrams to improve student outcomes. solicit your l49  STATE OP ILLINOIS I 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY RZGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 Aye vote on Amendment Ho. 1.

Senator Berman has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bk1l 958. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Purther amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 959. Senator Hall. Read the bill: Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 959. (Secretary reads title ot bill) 3rd Readin: of the -- pardon me -- 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

3rd Reading. Top of Page l0, on the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, is Senate Bill 1341. Read the bill. Top of Page l0, Ladies and Gentlemen: on the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, is Senate Bill 1341. Read the bill, please.

Senate Bill 1341. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

Are there amendments from the Floor?

l50 !  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Senator Vadalabene offers Amendment No. 1.

Senator Sam, on Amendment No. 1.

Yes: thank you: Mr. President and Members of the Senate. I want you to be -- listen very carefully for this amendment. We contacted the Veterans' Affairs and we also contacted the Pentagon in regards to our POW in the Persian Gulf. We had one prisoner of war in the State of Illinois, but we -- they couldn't determine the amount of days that he was incarcerated. So this appropriation -- we've got a bill for fifty dollars a day while he was a POW in the Persian Gulf, and I -- PRESIDENT ROCK: ' Al1 right. Senator Vadalabene has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1341. Discussion? Senator Maitland.

Thank you very -- thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. God love you, Senator Sam. You're doin: an excellent thing here, and we a11 support you. And I support your position.

All right. Senator Sam has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1341. Further discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Readinq. Al1 right. Ladies and Gentlemen, We are going to begin again on Page 2 on the Calendar, on the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading. I would just admonish the Membership that l5l 1 i  STATE OF ILLINQIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMDLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Frlday is quickly approaching. If indeed you wish to move a bill from 2nd to 3rd, this appears to me# at least, to be the appropriate time. Senate Bill 2. Senator Berman. Senate Bill l5. Senator Kelly. I'm sorry. Senate Bill 15 has already been reeonmitted. Senate Bill 37. Senator Dunn. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 37. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading 6f the bill. The Committee on Executkve Appointments offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Dunn, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank youe Mr. President. I move to Table Amendment No. 1.

Gentleman has moved to Table Pommittee Amendment No. to Senate Bi11 37. Any discussion? lf not, a11 in favor of the Motion to Table: indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. l is Tabled. Further amendments?

No Eurther eommittee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Thomas Dunn offers Amendment No. 2.

Senator Dunn, on Amendment No. 2. SENATOR DUNN ) Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 2 the Floor Amendmene becomes the bill. This is the bill to provide one hundred dollars to veterans of the Persian Gulf. This bill ls l52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLA; SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 somewhat different than House Bill 2: in that House Bill 2' only affects fioe of the codes - the Civil Serviee Codes - and thls -- this bill addresses al1 of the codes and makes the changes that have been requested. Senate Bill 37 extends veterans' benefits throughout al1 of the Statutes. In House Bill there 's a peacetime preference that is not contained in Senate Bill 37. There is lanquaqe in House Bill 37 -- or in House Bill 2 from the Veterans' Assistance Commission that is not in my bill, which is Bill 37, and that's at the request of CIVIL, the organizations of veterans who I met with, and at their request, that languaqe is not in. This bill expands the term of a veteran. It extends veterans' employment preferences to disabled conflict veterans and their famklies, and it does numerous things like that. I have met with the Veterans' Protective Leaque, AMVETS, the VFW, the Disabled American Veterans, the Military Order of the Purple Hearte and the Illinois Associakion of County Veterans' Assistance Commission. They support this bill. PRESIDEN; ROCK: Senator Dunn 's moved the adoption of Amendnent No. 2 to Senate Bi11 37. Discusslon? If notg a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Thomas Dunn.

Senator Dunn, on Amendment No. 3. SENATOR DDNNI Thank you, Mr. President. That's a technical amendment. Move the adoptlon.

Senator Dunn moves the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 37. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor, àndicate by saying 153  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No furtber amendments. PkESIDENT ROCK: 3rd Reading. 116. Senator Dunn. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please. SECRETARX HA%KER: Senate Bill 116. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readtng of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK; Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Thomas Dunn offers Amendment No. 1.

Senator Dunn, on Amendment No.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. l changes soae of the language by deleting Department of State Poliee and substitutin: the Secretary of State. and also chançes this from a Class A Misdemeanor of a fine of a thousand dollars and up to a year in jail, to a Class B -- (mike malfunction)

Senator Dunn. There 'ô a message there. SENATOR T . DDNNZ I'm trying to be brief: Mr? President. To a Class B Misdemeanor without any jail time.

Senator Dunn's moved the adoption of Aaendment No . l to Senate Bill 116. Discussion? Senator Hawkinson. No. If not, all in favor, indicate by sayinq Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. 154  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSKMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22# 1991 The amendment's adopted. Furkher amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Readinq. END OF TAPE TAPE 4

144. Senakor Rea. 146. 147. 175. Senator Dunn. Read the bill. Madam Seeretary, please.

Senate Bill 175. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Judiciary I offers Committee Amendment No.

Senator Dunn, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank you, Mr. President. This represents about three years of work by the Illinois State Bar Associationfs section on administrative laW. It makes numerous requests at the request of the Secretary of Staee and Commonkealth Edison. I urge its adoption.

Senator Dunn moves the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 175. Dtseussion? If not, all in favor, àndicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. Tbe amendment's adopted. Further amendments? l55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

No furtber committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Thomas Dunn offers Amendment No. 2.

Senator Dunn, on Amendment No. 2.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 2 provides that agencies may specify when the rules will be effective upon filing, and also to allow the incorporation of State-recognized association publications. I urge its adoption.

Senator Dunn has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 175. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWEER; Genator Dunn offers Amendment No. 3.

Senator Dunn, on Amendment No. 3.

Mr. President: thank you. It's a technical amendment.

Senator Dunn moves the adopkion of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 175. Discussion? If noty al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Purther amendments?

No further amendments. PRESIDENT ROCXI l56  STATE OF ILLIKOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 3lse Legislative Day May 22, 1991 3rd Reading. 195. Senator Severns. 214. Senator Cullerton. Read the bill: Madam Secretary, please. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading. Wedre in the middle of Page 2, Ladies and Gentlemen. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readingz Senate Bill 214.

Senate Bill 214. (Secretary reads title of billj 2nd Reading of the bill. Tbe Committee on Local Government offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Cullerton, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Mr. President, I believe that amendment was Tabled yesterday.

It Was taken out or the record. Xou wish to Table ik?

Wish to Table that amendment. I'm sorry.

A11 riqht. Senator Cullerton moves to Table Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Sill 214. Discussion on the Motion to Table? If not. all in favor of that motion, indieate by saying Aye. All opposed. :he Ayes have it. The motion earries. Committee Amendment No. 1 is Tabled. Are there further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Are there amendments from the Floor?

Senator Pawell offer: Amendment No. 2.

157  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 Senator Fawell, on Amendment No. 2.

Thank you very much, Mr. President. This is a bill ehat oriqinally was talking about the Dupaqe Airport Authority . Wben I asked the sponsor of the bill why he was so concerned about the -- tbe Dupage Airpork, since he happens to live by the Lake, he told me it Was because we were State Senators, and therefore he was concerned about al1 the people in -- in the State of Illinois. Well, you know, if this is indeed true - and I'm sure that the the Gentlemand s truthful on tbis am offerinq Amendment No. Amendment No. 2 deletes everything after the enacting clauser and it sets up a regional airport authority with nine members appointed by ehe Governor. The the authority will oversee O'Haree Midwayy Miegs and Dupaqe Airport. and thatdll also determine the feasibility of whether We should have a third major airport and where it should be. I think if We are talking about airports and the noise and the pollution that are the results of such airports, I think we ouqht to go ahead and let's do the whole bit.

Senator Cullerton. Discussion on Amendment No. 2? If notr all in favor of the option, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed . The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Purther amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senatozs Butler and Leverenz.

Senator Butler.

Mr. Presidentz this amendment sets some reasonable standards for the alleviation of a little bit oc thé problem for some two hundred thousand people in the vicinity of O'Hare Airport. It asks that during certain nighttime hours that only the quieter 158  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY RECULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legkslatkve Day May 22# 1991 planes be used. It is not a serious imposition over the long run, but it will bring about a very, very needed alleviation in a small way of that serious problem out there, and I would ask that it be approved.

Senator Butler has moved the adoption of Amendment No . to Senate Bill 214. Discussion? Senator Jacobs.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Will the Senaeor yield for a question?

Indicates he will yield, Senator Jacobs.

Wasn't this -- this anendment was also put on in committee -- wasn 't it a separate bill and was defeated in committee?

Senator Butler. SENATOR BUTLERI Xes, it was. PRESIDENT ROCKZ Senator Jacobs. A1l right. A11 right. Senaeor Butler has moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 214. Further discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by sayinq Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes bave it. The amendment's adopted. Furtber amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Cullereon.

Senator Cullerton: on Amendment No.

ïes. Thank you, Mr. Presidene and Members of the Senate. This amendment addresses the Dupage County Airport Authority and 159  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22: 1991 its makeup. And what it basically does is say that there still Will be nine members; seven will come from Dupage, and the way that they'll be appointed will be that the President of the -- Chairman of the County Board Will make the appointments, but with the adviee and consent of the County Board before that appointment will be effective. We also say that two commissioners will -- that -- Will reside in Kane County. They Will be appointed by the Chairman of that County Board with the advice and consent of that County Board. And that -- as soon as this 1aw goes into effect, the Kane Couhty member will -- will take its place. And be happy to ansker any questions and move for its adoption.

Senator Cullerton has moved the adopkion of Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 214. Discussion? Senator Fawell.

Thank youy Mr. Chairman. I'm -- I'm surprised that the sponsor of the bill, who said he was so concerned about a11 the people in the State of Illinois, is not so coneerned about the people of his own city. This merely takes care of the people in Dupage County and Kane County, Senator Cullerton. It does not take care of the people around Miegs. Does not take care of the people around Midway. It does not'take care of the people around O 'Hare. It also does not say anythin: about anybody except for tbe people in Chicago setting up where a third atrport should be. think this is a bad amendment, and I would ask that a roll call be taken, and that we defeat this amendment.

A11 right. The question is the adoption of Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 214. Further discussion? Senator Cullerton, you Wish to close? Question is the adoption of Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 214. A roll call has been requested. Those in favor of the adoption of the amendment will vote Aye, and opposed will vote 160  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22y 1991 Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wisb? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 27 Ayes, 29 Nays, none voting Present. Amendment No. 4 fails. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading . 271. Senator del Valle. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, pléase.

Senate Bill 2-7-1. (Secretary reads title ok bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Transportation offers Committee Amendment No.

Senator del Valle, on Committee Amendment No. SENATOR dEL VALLE: Thank you, Mr. President. Committee Amendment No. 1 stripped the bill. I move the adopklon of Committee Amendment No.

Senator del Valle has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 271. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have The amendmentês adopted. Further amendments?

No further commlttee amendmenes.

Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator dek Valle offers Amendment No.

16l r N STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Senator de1 Valle, on hmendment No. 2. Senator dek Vakle. SENATOR dEL VALLE: Thank you, Mr. Presldent. Thls amendment was worked out with the Secretary of State's Office, and what it does is that -- it codifies the current practiee in issuinq driver's licenses to individuals participating in the Federal Amnesty Program. I move the adoption of Floor Amendment No. l Ksic>. PRESIDENT ROCE: Senator del Valle has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senaçe Bill 271. Discussion? If not: all in favore indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARX HAWKER : No further amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: 3rd Readtng. 294. Senator Maedonald. Read the bill: Madam Secretary, please. SECRETARV HAWKER : Senate B11l 2-9-4. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the btll. The Committee on Transportation offers Commietee Amendment No. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Macdonald, on Committee Amendment No . SENATOR MACDONALD: Yes. Mr. President, this Commtttee Amendment No. was merely a teehnical amendment from tbe Legislative Reference Bureau, eorrecting some errors that they had made àn the bàll. So that's al1 that does. I will say that I do have two amendments that I've been waiting for for some time, so I'm going to move this bill on to 3rd, and probably ask to have brought back to 2nd, hopefully tomorrow. l62  STATD 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 PRESIDENT R0CX: All riiht. Senator Macdonald has moved the Committee -- the adoption of Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bi11 294. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further commlttee amendments.

3rd Reading. Senator Vadalabene, for what purpose do you arise, sir?

On a point of personal privilege, Mr. President.

State your point, please.

Amy Robinson from Roxana, Illinoisl from my district, is on the Floor as a page today - one of our Girl Scouts.

Welcome. Couldn't be with a better Senator, either. 299. Senator Daley. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 2-9-9. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Commitkee on Higher Education offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Daley, on Committee Amendment No. 1.

Thank thank you, Mr. President. I wish to Table Committee Amendment No.

163  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legkslative Day May 22, 1991 Senator Daley moves to Table Committee Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 299. Discussion on the Motion to Table? If not, a11 ln favor of that motion, indicate by sayinq Aye. Al1 opposed . The Ayes have it. The motion carries , and Amendment No. is Tabled. Are there further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

Are there amendments from the Floor?

Senator Daley offers Amendment No. 2.

Senator Daley, on Amendment No . 2.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Amendment No. 2 becomes the bill. The effective date of this leqislation has been delayed to July 1, 1992. This legislation is worked with the cooperation of the Illinois Student Association and specific language in this amendment. And the program is designed to encourage the brightest of a1l State engineering students to attend college, as well as practice engineering in Illinois by completknq a teaching/working obligation commitment.

Senator Daley's moved the adoption ofAmendment No . 2 to Senate Bill 299. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendmentes adopted . Are there further amendments?

No further amendments. PRESIDENT ROC%: 3rd Reading. Middle of Page 3, Ladies and Gentlemen. Senator Etheredge . 309. Read the bkll: Madam Secretary, please. l64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GEKERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

Senate Bill 309. tsecretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Ploor?

Senator ztheredge offers Amendment No. 1. PRESIDENT ROCK; Senator Etheredge, on Kmendment No.

L Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the aommunity college rate bill, and what the amendmene does is to bring the credit hour rates down to the Governor's level. I moœe for ies adoptàon.

Senator Eeheredqe has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate 3i11 309. Diseussion? If not, a11 in favor: indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Readkng. I turn your attention, Ladies and Gentlemen, now to Page 6. We're on Page 6 on the Calendar. Having gone through the approprkatkon bklls, wedll be on Page 6. Senator Berman, on the middle of Page 6, on the Order of Senaee Bills 2nd Reading, is Senate Bill 380. Read the billz Madam Secretary, please.

Senate Bill 380. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Judiciary I offers 165  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Committee Amendment No . 1. PRESIDING OFFTCER; (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Berman. SENATOR BERMANI Thank you, Mr. President. Committee Amendment No. defines the details regarding tenancy by the entirety. I move the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question is, shall Amendment No. l be adopted. Al1 in favor, siqnify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No l's adopted. Any further eommittee amendments?

No further committee amendnents.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 34d Reading. Senate Bill 405. Senator Severns. please. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate B1ll 405. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on State Government Organization and Administration offers Committee Amendment No . 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Committee Amendment No. l simply deleted the references to Dwight Correctional Center, and also expanded the specific intent of CMS to kmplement rules. I know of no opposttion, and would urge its 166  STATE OP ILLIROIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBL: REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 adoption. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any diseussàon? The question is, shall Amendment No. be adopted. A11 in favor, siqnify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 1's adopted. Any further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from khe Floor? SECRETAFY HAWKER) Senators Philip and Weaver offer Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Philip.

Thank you, Mr. President: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. The net effect of this amendment would limit CMS'S kravel authority to the Executive Branch of Governor -- Government only. In other words, it takes the General Assembly out. We have our oWn at this point.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. I -- I hope everyone's payinq attention to this amendment, because would think that ie'd be one that you'd want to constder carefully. The Senate Bill 405, in fact, wl11 provide for a corporate travel desk in the State of Illinois, to be housed within CMS. What Senator Philip's amendment attempts to do is exempt the Legislature. I think given -- given al1 of the difficulties tbat that we know exist, and the simple fact that the bill already provides for needed exemptions: I think we need not write in a special exemption for the Leqislature into this bill. And I would 167  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 urqe oppositton to this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any further discussion? Senator Phillp, to close.

Thank 'you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. You know, there is a separation of powers. There is an Executive Branch of Governnent; 1et CMS do that. 1 don't have any objections to that Whatsoevery but We happen to be the Legislative Branch of Government, and of course, the four leaders sit on that. And -- and quite frankly, I don't think there's been any abuses in the General Assembly. If there is, I'm not -- certainly not aware of it.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The question is, shall Amendment No. 2 be adopted. Al1 in favor, signify by sayinq Aye. Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 2's adopted. Any further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER; Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Severns. PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Amendment No. 3 was requested by CMS and IDOT simply to -- ko exempt ehe aeronautics portion. I know of no objections. Would urge its adoption. PRESIDING OPPICERI (SENATUR LECHGWICZ) Any discusskon? senator Keaks.

Wedre exempting aeronautics from the travel guidelines? Is that -- excuse me a question of the sponsor.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Indicates shedll yield. Senator Xeats, please. And Will you 168  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislatkve Day May 22, 1991 repeat your question?

Are We exempting aeronautics from the Exeeutive Branch guàdelines on travel?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns.

No .

PRESIDINC OFPICER: (SXNATOR LECVOWICZ) Senator Keats. Any further discussion? Senator Severns, to close. The Lady moves the adoption oê Amendment No. 3. A1l in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 3's adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 482. Senakor Maitland. Fiseal note's been requested. Has it been filed? No. 434. Senator Severns. Read the bill. Madam Secretary.

Senate Bi11 4-8-4. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of tbe bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LCCHOWICZ) The Lady from Macon: Senator Severns.

lhank you, Mr. President, Kembers of the Senate. This amendment simply creates the Illinois European Community 1992 Trade Projeet within the Department of Commerce and Community Affaîrs, and establkshes the IEC '92 Pund. It repeals, as SenatGr DeAngelis' bill did yesterdayv the Export Council Act and the Export Development Act, and transfers all unexpended funds to the 169  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 IEC '92 Fund. I know of no opposition, and Would urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The question is, shall Amendment No. 1 be adopted. All in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. l's adopted. Any further amendments? SZCRETARY HAHKER) No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 485. Senator Schaffer. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. BECRETARY HAWEERJ Senate Bill 4-8-5. (Seeretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readinq of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Geptleman froR McHenryy Senator Scbaffer. Any Floor amendments?

Amendment No. l offered by Senator Schaffer. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Schaffer, Amendment No. 1. SENATOR SCHAFFER) Mr. Presidente this amendment addresses the concerns that were brought up in the committee: both by committee members and sugges*ea by the DepartmenE of Revenue.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any diseussion? Question is, shall Amendment No. l be adopted. Any -- a11 in favor, signify by sayinq Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. is adopted. Any further amendments? SECRETARY HA%XER: No further amendments. l70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATZ TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislatkve Day May 22, 1991

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 497. Senator Luft. Read the billy Madam Secretary . SECRETARY HAWRDRI Senaee Bill 4-9-7. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendmenks.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Luft offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Luft.

Thank you, Mr. President. Thls is a technicale clarifying amendment only.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The guestion is, shall Amendment No. be adopted. Al1 in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. l's adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFPIPER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 544. Senator Maitland. On top of Paqe 7 is Senate Bil1 586. Senator Savickas. Out of the record. 588. Senator Rakca. Read the bill. 0h. No, I?m sorry. Take it out of the record. 595. Senator Raica. 0ut of the record. 598. Senator Maitland. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 598. (Secretary reads kitle of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. 171  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87*: GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legtslative Day May 22, 1991

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Gentleman from McLean, Senator Maitland.

Mr. -- Mr. President, thank you very much. Just for the Body to know, this bill will be going to 3rd Reading today, but will be coming back on the first Recall List, as far -- as soon as We get the -- the amendment for it. There is some -- and Senator Jones is aware of this. So ue pledge to you, We'11 brkng the bill back for the amendment tomorrow .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Ign't there a committee amendment?

No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETAR: HAWKER : No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SZNATOR LEQHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 673. Senator Collins. 673. Out of the record. 714. Senator del Valle. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 714. tsecretary reads title of billj 2nd .Reading of the bill. The Committee on Judiciary I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator del Valle, Committee Amendment No. 1. SENATOR dEL VALLE: Thank you, Mr. President. I move to Table Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECEOWICZ) Any discussion? The Gentleman from Knox, Senator Hawkinson.  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991

Thank yöu, Mr. President. Question of the sponsor.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LZCHOWICZ) Indicates he'll yield.

Senator, by Tabling ehis amendment, youfre restoring the original bill, are you not?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator de1 Valle. SENATOR dEL VALLE: I have a Floor amendment that will follow.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (GENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Hawkinson.

Well, the only way it got out of committee was because you made it a shell. Has ehat been cleared with our side of the aisle - the Floor amendment?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator de1 Valle. SENATOR dEL VALCE: Well, the -- the amendment that -- the Ploor amendment that have is a result of the negotiations with a1l the interested parties. ïes.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Hawkinson. The Gentleman moves to Table Committee Amendment No. Hearing no objection -- a11 in favor, signify by sayinq Aye. Opposed. Committee Amendment No. l'a Tabled. Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator de1 Valle offers Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator del Valle. l?3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GCNERAL ASSEMBLy REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Senator dEL VâLLE: Yeah. Thank you, Mr. President. This is the negotiated amendment. It increases the amount an employee may be paid before any wages may be garnished. I move the adoption of Floor Amendment No. 1 <sic>. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Hawkinson. SENATOR HAWKINSON: Question of the 'Chair. Has this amendment been printed and ' distributed? PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LECHDWICZ) Miguel, why don't we take this out of the record? We'11 take it out of the record. We'll get back to it. You Want to cheek on that and see it's been printed and distributed, please? 726. Senator Berman. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Bill 726. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readinq of the bill. No commiktee amendments. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKERt Senator Berman offers Amendment No. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Berman. SENATOR BERMAN: Thank you. This is an amendment that has come to us from the pension funds. It is not -- does not address a11 the eoncerns. We fve talked with both sides of the aisle and the pension funds and the State Bar Association. We're qoin: to adopt this amendment, pass it over to the House: continue to Work With it until everyone is agreed as to its provisàons. So I move to adopt 174  STATZ 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Floor Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question is, shall Amendment No. be adopted. All in favorg signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. l's adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 746. Senator Collins. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. 746, Earlean. SECRETARY HAWKER ) L Senate Bill 7-4-6. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments ftom the Floor?

Senator Collins offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Collins.

Yes. Thank you, Mr. Presidene and -- and Members of the Senate. Amendment No. 1 does, in fact: make the bill better. However, we are still in the process of discussion. But what this amendment does at this point -- it takes out the Section that deals with the qraduated exemptions, and it deals with the property tax deduction Section, and attempts to graduate that in a sense. And it simply puts those people from zero to twenty-nine thousand ninety-nine -- nine hundred ninety-nine dollars, at two hundred -- two-hundred-percent deduction. Those from thirty to one hundred thousand dollars - a hundred and fifty deduction, and those over a hundred thousand will remain the same at 175  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSIO: SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 one-hundred-percent deduction. So I would move for its adoption. This amendment is sponsored by Senator Rigney and myself. I would just ask -- move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The question is, shall Amendment No. be adopted. A1l in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. l's adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 750. Senator Joyce. J.J. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKER ) Senate Bill 750. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Jerome Joyce offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Joyce.

Yes, thank you, Mr. President. This deletes everythinq and makes the bill a vehicle. The homebuilders and the Illinois State Historic Research Preservation people have been negotiating thise trying ko :eE together, and I I puess they have. So We're moving this over to the House and they can further work on there.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Gentleman -- any discussion? Senator Woodyard.

l76 : STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Yes, thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Senator Joyce: you said the home -- homebuilders and Historic Sites Preservation is -- when this bill was in committee, why a11 of our friends were either for it or against ity but -- PRESIDING OFPICER: (SCNATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Joyee. SENATOR WOODYARD: Okaye fine. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) It'p stridtly a vehicle bill now. SENATOR J .J. JOYCE: Well: that's what it's about. Theybre -- they're -- they're qoinq to work it out. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Joyce moves the adoption of Amendment No. 1. All in favor, signify by saying Aye. Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 1's adopted . Any further amendnents? SECRETARX HAWKER: No fureher amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECZOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 761. Senator Newhouse. Out of the % record. 764. Senator Marovitz. Marovttz. Out of the record. You want to read it? 764. Out of the record. 766. Senator Newhouse. Out of the record, at the request of the sponsor. 783. Senator Daley . Read the bill: Madam Secretary. SECRETARX HAWKER : Senate B11l 7-8-3. (Secretary reads tltle of bill) PRESIDING OFFICZR: (SENAQOR LECXOWICZ) Senator Daley. SZNATOR DRLEX: Mr. president and Members of the Senate, at this time I would 177 i ! . l  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 move to recommit this Senate Bill 783 to the Committee of Revenue for 'further consideration.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman has moved to recommit Senate Bi11 783 to the Revenue Committee. Hearing no objections, the bill is so committed. Please turn to Page 8 of the Calendar. Page 8 appears Senate Bill 789. Senatör Cullerton. Read the bill' Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 7-8-9. (Secretary reads tktle of bk11) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Judiciary I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Cullerton.

ïes. I'd -- I'd làke to Table the committee amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman moves to Table Committee Amendment No. 1. Any discussion? A11 those in favor, siqnify by saying Aye. Opposed. Committee Amendment No. l1s Tabled. Any further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from Ehe Floor?

Senator Cullerton offers Amendment No. 2. PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senaeor cullerton.

Mr. President: if I could ask the Secretary what the LRB l78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 number is. want to qo with the last amendment that's been filed.

0l.

I want -- I want to Table that amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) You just withdraw that one.

Withdraw Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Right. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Cullerton.

PRESIDIHG OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Want to give him the numbers?

Is this 02?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) ïeah. Give him the --

Thank -- thank you, Mr. President. This amendment reflects an agreement worked out between the Department, that initially had objectkons to the bill, and the Citizens Assembly, which came forward with the bill. It would require the Department of Children and Family Services to provide a written notice to the court of the specific arrangements for supervised visitation, and the projected monthly cost, Within sixty days after the court orders them to perform this -- this work. The Department then shall send to the court knformation relatkng to the cost incurred by the Department, if àt's appropriate, and if the Department doesn't do what they're ordered to by the court, the courk can, of l79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBL: REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 course, hold them in contempt of court. So this is an agreed amendment, and I would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question is, shall Amendment No. 2 be adopted. All those in favore signàfy by saying Aye. Aye . Opposed. Amendment No. 2's adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICDR: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 804. Senator Smith. Out of the record . 821. Senator Raica. Please read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 821. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendnents. PRESIDING 9FPICERI (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Raica offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senakor Raiea.

Thank you: Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senate Amendment :o. 1 to Senate Bill 821 is an agreed amendment betwêen the interested parties, and simply says that Public Aid shall attempt, if practical, to implement an ambulance reimbursemene program that mirrors the Medicare Ambulance Reimbursement Plan. This às stàll beinq worked ou* between parties: and we may need this for future amendments, and I just ask if we can move it to 3rd Readinq and :et it over to the House: so they can change ie: I'm sure. 180  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SCSSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22y 1991

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any diseussion? The question is, shall Amendment No. l be adopted. A11 in favor, signify by sayinq Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. l's adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 833. Senator Jacobs. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 833. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Gentleman from Roek Island: Senator Jacobs.

Just a:k for its -- for pass it on to 3rd. It's -- we're going to hold it on 3rd.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) I thoughE We had a -- Wasn't there a committee amendment? Floor amendment?

No.

No Floor amendment.

No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) My Calendar's marked krong. I'm Borry. 3rd Reading. 863. Senator Savickas. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bi11 863. l81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 889. Senator Holmberg. Out of the record. 948. Senator Welch. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. SECRETAFV HAWXERI Senaee Bill 948. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LCCHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Welch offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Welch.

Thank you, Mr. President. What this amendment does is address several concerns raised by opponents to the bill in the Environment Committee. Changes the recyclable definition to insure that the product is realistically - noe theoretically recyclable. The bill is a Environmental Labeling and Advertising Bill, which requires labels on products in the grocery seore to be truthful. It also mandates documentation of the amount of recycled material contained in a product that has a label as belng recycled. And the effeetive date is moved to January of 1993, becoming effective only if there is no national standard. I would move for adoption of the amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) l82  ! 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS i 87th GENERAL ASSZMBLX REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Any discussion? The Lady from Cook, Senator Topinka.

Just a point of personal privileqe, Mr. President. And that is on the Floor and kind of tokard the back of the -- of the Chamber is former State Representative Giddy Dyer, who certainly Was one of the first Ladies of the Legislature, and we are just pleased to Welcome her, and I would like all to do so.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Giddy, welcome back to Springfield. So good eo see you. Nok, is there any discussion on Amendment No. 17 The question is# shall Amendaent No. l be adopted. A1l in favor, siqnify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. l's adopeed. Any fureher amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER) No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LZCHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. On the bottom of Page 8. Senate Bill 1038. Senator Smith. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1038. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Ploor amendments.

PRESIDING OFEICZR: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Top of Page 9. Senate Bikl 1067. Senator Rea. Read the bill, Aadam Seeretary.

Senate Bill 1067. lsecretary reads title ot bk11) 183  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWTCZ) Any amendments from tbe Ploor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 1075. Senator Rock. Out of the record. 1092. Senator D'Arco. 1092, John. Out of the record. 1133. Senator Raica. Read Ehe bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1133. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments fron the Floor? SECRETAR: HAWKER: Senator Raica offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Raica. SENATOR RAICA; Thank you, Mr. Presidentr Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. What this amendmenk does is Rakes this bill a vehicle. We are in negotiattons betkeen the mobile home owners, the mobile trailer park owners and other interested parties. After three hours of deliberation, nothing was finalized, and all we Want to do is keep this alive in the House so we have something to move along if something does develop. I just ask for your support.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question is# shall Amendment No. be adopted. A11 in Eavor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Any further amendments?

184  STATE OF ILLIKOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day kay 22, 1991 No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Readinq. 1134. Senator Raica. Out of the record. 1136. Senator Raica. Out of the record. 1144. Senator Kaitland . 1144. Senator Maitland . 115G. Senator Culkerton. Read the billy Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1150. (Secrekarg reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendmenks.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments irom the Ploor?

Senator Cullerton offers Amendment No. la

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Cullerton.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. This anendment represents a compromise which was obtained by the Retail Merchants Association in coordinaeion with the public universities. It would allow for those public unâversities to sell goods when competin: private merchants do not or cannot stock goods needed by students for classroom activities. kould also allow them to lease university property if it is made available to private sector merchants. And finally, it exempts universities who offered credit ko students prior to 1980 from the prohlbitlon against such activity. I move for its adoptkon.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any dkscusskon? Senator Holmberg.

Thank you, Mr. President. A question of the sponsor. Senator Cullerton, it's my understanding that part of the university l85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 problems have been cleared up: but the problem with the Board of Regents in Horthern Illinois University still needs to be negotiated. Is this true?

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Cullerton.

You know, I didn't know that. I -- I thought that the amendment that was handed to me was the result of a negotiationg and I see there's an amendment here that accommodates the University of Illinois in Champaign, and 1 assumed tbat the others had signed off. But if -- if it's not your understanding is probably more recent than mine. Qhat the agreement -- everybody's agreed except Northern?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Holmberg.

That's correct. They seàll need time to -- to work out their section of the agreement.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Cullerton.

Well, I'd like to adopt the anendment, and then perhaps -- we have between today and tomorrow to see if we can reach further accommodation, and 1111 bring the bill back to 2nd Readinq, if I Can .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Is that agreeable? Any further discussion? The question is# shall Amendment No. l be adopted. A1l in favor, signify by saying Kye. Opposed. Amendment No. 1's adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments. 186  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GESERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

PRESIDTNG OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 1167. Senator Pawell. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1167. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No conmittee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LCCHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETA:Y HAWKER: Senator Fawell offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LCCHOWICZ) The Lady from Dupage: Senator Fawell.

rs Khat -- is that Berman-pawell?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LCCHOWICZ) Xou want to qive her the numbers on the amendment, please?

It ends in 0l.

I'm going to withdraw that amendment. think the -- the next one ts the one we want.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Lady Withdraws Amendment No. 1. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. l offered by Senators Berman and Fawell.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Berman.

Thank you, Mr. President/ Ladies and Gentlemen of the House Ksicl. This amendment, offered by myself and Senator Fawell, represents a -- an agreement between the Illinois Bankers and the 187  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSTON SENATE TRANSCRIPT 3ls* Legislative Day May 22e 1991 Retail Merchants. What it does is to address the coéts and proeedures when a bad check is bounced off of a retailer: and the cost incurred by the bank. Simply put, we raised the allowable

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Excuse me, Senator Berman. Ladies and Gentlemen, could We have your attention, please? Please continue, Senator Berman.

Thank you. Simply putz what we have done is increase the nonlitigated collection amount that a retailer may charge: from ten dollars to twenty-five dollars, and we impose a permissible charqe that the bank may charge to the retailer for depositing a bad check to the amount of seven dollars and ftfty cents. 80th of these charges are permissible, and I would be glad to respond to any questions, and move the adoption of Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The queseion is, shall Amendment No. l be adopted. All in favor, signify by saying Aye. Aye. Opposed. Amendmene No. l's adopted. Any further amendments? SECRETARV HAWKERJ No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1212. Raica. Senator Raica. Out of the record. 1231. Senator Marovitz. Out of the record. Senator Jacobs. 1235. Read the bill: Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1235. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Executive offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACOBS) 188 I i I  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 Thank you: Mr. President. Committee Amendment l strictly takes out wire sparklers and provides funds for the fire marshal, and ask for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The questlon 1s, shall Amendment No. 1 -- Committee Amendment No. 1 be adopted. Al1 in favor, signify by sayin: Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. l's adopted. Any further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Jacobs offers Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jacobl.

Thank you, Mr. President. Floor Amendment No. 2 removes the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts from the bill to where they now are prohibited from selling, and -- and makes the bill twenty-one years of age in order to sell the fireworks.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question is, shall Anendment No. be adopted. All in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendnent No. 2 is adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Jacobs.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATQR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jacobs.

Amendment No. 3 is technical. There was some misspelled words. 189  STATZ 0F ILLINOIS ' 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY RZCULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Gentleman noves the adoption of Amendment No. 3. A11 in favory signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 3 is adopted. Any further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Jacobs. PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATQR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jacobs. SSNATOR JACQBS: Amendment 'No. 4 - and the final amendment - strictly puts the ' Fireworks Regulation Act back in the bill, ae the request of the rire Marshal's office. PRESIDING OFIICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question is, shall Amendment No. 4 be adopted. All in favor, signify by sayinq Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 4 is adopted. Any further amendments? SECRETARV PAWXER: No further amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LZCROWICZ) 3rd Reading. 1237. Senator Etheredge. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. SECRETARV HAWKER : Senate Bill 1237. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readin: of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKER: Senator Etheredge offers Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATQR LECHOWICZ) Senator Etheredgee please. SENATOR ETHEREDGE: 190 ' 1 i 1  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Thank you very much, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is the amendment that was mentioned yesterday at the time when we were discussin: the -- ehe Motion to Diseharge thls bill from committee. It is a -- an amendment which brings this bill now into conformity with a similar bill, which is being carried by Representative Morrow over in the House. What it does is to establish a school attendance proqrams - a learn fair program, if you will - as three pilot projects around the State of Illinois. It -- it calls for a -- a sunset of this program after two years, unless it's extended by action of the General Assembly. It calls for periodic reports from the Department to t;e General Assembly on the progress that is being made, and I Would move for the adopkion of this amendment.

PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any dkscusskon? The question is: shall Amendment No. be adopted. All in favor, signify by sayinq Aye. Opposed. Amendnent No. 1 is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OPPICSR: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 1274. Senator Watson. Gut of the record. 1285. Senator Watson. Out of khe record. 1315. Senator Philip. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. SECRETAR? HAWRER I Senate Bill 1315. lsecretary reads tikle of bàll) 2nd Reading of the bill. No commtttee amendmenks. PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR LECHQWIQZ) Any amendments from the Floor? GECRETKRX HAWKERt Senator Carroll offers Amendment No. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWIQZJ l9l  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATC TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Senator Carrolle Amendment No. 1 on 1315. SENATOR CARROLL: Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This would chanqe ehe day from a Saturday to a Tuesday, and I would move its adoption. PRESIDING GFFICER: (SENATOR LZCHOWICZ) Any discusston? Question is, shakl Amendment No. l be adopted. A11 in favor, signify by saylng Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. l's adopted. Any further amendments?

No furtber amendnents.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 1321. Senator Severns. Out of the record. Also appearing on Page 9 is -- appears -- leave of the Body, wefll go to 1231. Senator Marovitz. Read the b11l, Madam Secretary. 1231.

Senate Bill 1231. tsecretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR LECBOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SCNATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. With leave of the Dody, ke'll go to -- to Senate 9ill 1092. Senator D 'Arco. Hearing no objections: Madam Secretary, please read 1092 - Senate Bill 1092.

Senate Bill 1092. lsecretary reads title of bi1l) 2nd Reading of the btll. The Committee on Judickary I offers 192  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 87th CENCRAL ASSEMBL: REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leglslative Day May 22e 1991 Committee Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator D lArco. SENATOR D 'ARCOJ Thank you. Mr. President. Amendaent No. l is the essence of the bill. And the bill sets out a procedure for the health eare needs of people that have a terminal conditione that are permanently unconscious, or -- or are in a vegetative state. It also sets out a procedure, of course, for people thât can make kheir own health care decisions that *- in other words, people that are conscious of what's going on and can decidé for themselves what is in the best interest of their health care needs. So the focus of the bill is primarily on those people that can't make a decision for themselves and someone else must make that decision.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Excuse me, Senator D'Arco. Can we break up the conferences, please? Can we break up the conferences, please? Please eontinue.

It sets out a procedure Whereby surrogates in a priority order determine, in consultaeion with the attending physiciane what is the appropriate health care decision for the patient. The surrogate can decide to maintain the present life-sustaining apparatus that's keeping the person alive. He can deeide to keep the person on food and hydration, artificial devices: or he can decide that ik may be appropriate to take thoee devices and remove them from the patient and 1et the patient die with dignity. That's what this bill is all about. I want to emphasize that the Catholic Conference of Illinois the Catholic Conference of Illinois - the Archbishop of Illinois - Arehbishop Bernardin -- I'm sorry - Cardinal Bernardin - is in favor of this bill. In l93  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 facte he endorses this bill. The Chicago Bar Association ehdorses this billo' The Illinois Hospital Association endorses this bill, and the Illinois Medical Society endorses this bill. None of the various groups that attend Eo the various interests involved are against this bill. They're all in favor of the bill. Ladies and Gentlemen: it is my opinion that Illinois, in thts legislation, will set a model bill -- model legislation for the rest of the country to emulate and follow in the future. This ks the most comprehensive legislation dealing With health care needs of people that qualify for this kind of treatment tn the State of Illinois. And I would ask for your favorable support.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Gentleman from Cook, Senator Raica. Raiea.

Thank you: Mr. President. A point of personal privileqe, please.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Please proceed.

Okay. I apoloiize to Senator D'Arco, but Senator Savickas and I have a group of seventy students from St. Turibtus Parish, who have come to Springfield to visit us: alonq with Mr. Baker and Miss Arrazmus: their their teachers. They are in the Democratic side of the gallery, and I wish that they can stand and be recoqnized by the General Assenbly. PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Will out guests please stand and be recognized? Welcome to Springfleld. Welcome to the Illinois Senate. Enjoy your day. Now, dkscussion on Amendment No. 1? The LaGy from Cook, Senator Topinka.

Yes, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the senate. 194  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legkslative Day May 22, 1991 would stand in support of Senator D 'Arco's amendment. Last year we had some difficulty in terms of tbe liability waiver. Other than that, we did receive suppore from this Chaaber to address this very serious problem which has affected many of the people of Illinois and people around the United States. We read story after story of hoW family members have had to go to court, have been yanked and pulled and tugged over these issues. Somewhere we have to set some kind of a standard and make a call. and al1 through the summer people who bave been involved in this issue have worked very hard to try and fïnd a -- fknd a -- a solution -- a painful solution, because it deals vith issues of life and death. Nobody particularly wants to address these issues, but for al1 lntents and purposes, those who are closest to the scene have Walked away and have left the Leqislature with making that decision. It is a hard one, and I know everybody has to look into their consciences and philosophize about how they feel about this. But for those people who don't have a living will, who don't have a durable poker of attorney, Who have become terminal, who can no longer come back, who -- who are not in the realn of the living any longer, they have no place to go. They float. hnd somewhere -- is it our right' indeed, to determine that they should hang endlessly in ehis limbow where they are neither dead or alive. but we think they are dead? To that ende I would ask you to really Weigh this particular amendment, because, again, it has had the support of some of the finest legal minds, medical minds, clerics. We've trked out best. I think this is the best that We can do in eerms of this issue from this Legislature from the for the benefit of the people of Illlnoise and I Would ask your support.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman fzom Cook: Senatof Karovitz.

Thank you -- thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of l95  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22e 1991 the Senate. I would just make a sugqestion to my colleagues rather than go to the merits of the bill. Wefve heard from the two sponsors of the legislation. This bill is a shell bill, as it ls right now, and we're voting on the bill here. Rather than go through an hour debate on 2nd Reading and another hour debate on 3rd Readin: to do exactly the same thinq, it would seem to make sense to move the bill to 3rd Reading and go through that same one-hour debate one tkme.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) It hasn 't affected any of your lights. Senator Hawkinson.

Thank you, Mr. ihairman. The preceding speaker indicated the hard work and lots of discussion and all the rest, but I don't think it's the best proeess available. This bill was 1et out as a shell bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Excuse me. Excuse me. For What purpose the Gentleman for Cook, Senator D'Arco, seek recognition?

Before we debate the bill - this is the amendment that adopts - - this is the shell. The second amendment is the Floor amendment. So let's just adopt this amendment, and then we can debate the Floor amendment, which is the -- is the essence of the bill. Okay?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Gentleman moves the adoptlon of Amendment No. All in favore signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment NO. 1'S adopted. Any further amendments?

No further committee amendnents.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor? 196  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLI REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

Senator D'Arco offers Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator D'Arco, Amendment No. 2. NoW wedre back on the debate. Senator Hawkinson.

Thank you, Mr. President. The committee let this out as a shell bill, and several of us on the committee - myself included volunteered and -- and, matter of fact, requested to be included in these negotiations, and this is the first that I've heard that you have an amendment. There's no such amendment on my desk, or an analysis thereof. In questioning the prior speaker, I'm told -- she kndkcated the only problem last year was the medycal Waiver. Well, that's simply not the case. We debated this last year. I had two very specific problems With last year's version, and I understand they may still be inherent in the -- in the Floor amendment, althouqh I don't have it. The first problem I had was that I didn't feel it was appropriate - and I think many Members of this Assembly didn't feel it was appropriate - to allow a quote 'ffriendd' to challenqe a family decision made in this area: and understand that we still have 'tfriend'' in the hierarcby, and that anyone in the hierarchy can challenge a decision that a -- that a family member may have nade in -- in this sense. And the other problem that I had was I -- We had two categories the irreversible coma and the imminent death - that I -- 1 think we need thls legislation for. But there was a third category ln last year's bill that many of us felt was -- was very nebulous and ambiguous, and -- and could be used arguably to extend to sktuatkons that ougbt not be covered by legislation of this type. And Senator Topinka advises that that third Seetion may still be in this -- in this bill, as well. So I -- I would suggest that we're not ready to adopt this as -- as final action, and at this 197  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION S2NAT2 TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22: 1991 point, should vote No on this amendment, o r should be withdrakn.

PRESIDING OFFICZR: (SENATOR LECXOWICZ) hny further dkscussion? Senator Rock. President Rock. Senator Rock.

Tbank you. Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. As Senator Hawkinson and others well know, debated ehis legislation at some length last year. I am satisfied that the améndmept is a -- is a qood effort. And al1 I'd sugqest is that kn the clostng hours -- this is not final action; this is the adoption of an amendment, as Senator Marovitz pointed out. I -- I ehink ehat we have literally been negotiating and discussing for about the past four weeks as to what should be in and should be out, and we've kalked about criminal and civil liability and the immunity therefrom, and and I just think that we ought to afford the sponsor the opportunity to put the bill in the shape in wish -- kn which he wkshes it# and then we can debate it with some fervor, Ifm sure.

PRESTDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any further discussion? Senator D 'Arco, to close.

Well: Senaeor Hawkinson is right about one thingy and I -- and I want to apologize to him publicly. I did indicate to him that he would be consulted in the deliberations on this bill: and his concern -- and, in fact, when we were discussing in dellheratton what we were qoing to do about particulars of the bill, I mentioned Senator Hawkinson's objections. Unfortunately, he was not included in those discussions. And tbat was an oversight on my part, and I apologize for that. feel -- I will address -- We can debate the bill on 3rG Reading: and it'll be an appropriate time to debate it, and right now I would move eo adopt Amendment 198  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBL: REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 No. Qsicl.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Questlon is, shall Amendment No. l be adopted. All in favor, -- 2 -- we adopted a conmittee amendment. Al1 in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 2's adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendmenks.

PRESIDINC OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Would you please turn to Page 10. Senate Bill 1328. Senator Luft. Read the bill, Madam Seeretary.

Senate Bill 1328. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Ploor? SECRETAR? HAWKER: Senator Donahue offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING QFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Donahue, Amendment No. 1.

Thank youe Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1328 ks attenpting to clarify homestead exemptions for mobile home industry. We had a situatàon in my distrket where they were eligible for a homestead exenptione the assessor would not allow it# although it was kn the law . and this simply elarifies that. It doesn't expand it. It doesn't do anything different than clartfy it. I would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Demuzio. Senator Joyce. 199  I STATE OF ILLINOIS I k 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR sEsszou 1 SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 SENA%OR J.E. JOYCE: Senator Donahue, witb a1I due respeet, I%m reliably informed that this does more than clarify, and that that -- this causes some -- some serious problems up in my part of the State. Would you explain in a little more detail exactly how this clarifies? PRESIDINC OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Donahue. SENATOR DONAHUE: Xeahy if youdll bear with me and let me read this. It says that any vehicle similar portable structure, used or so -- constructed as to permit it being used as a dwelling place for one or more persons, if -- if this structure ks resting whole -- PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Exeuse me, Senator Donahue. SENATOR DONAHDE: ïes. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) We're going to have to take this amendment out of the reeord. SENATOR DONAHUEk Wby? PRDSIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) We're goinq to :et right to it. It's -- kt's Risplaced in its order. SENATOR DONAHUE: Okay. A11 right. r just checkinq. PRESIDIHG OFFICERI (SESATOR LECHO:ICZ) And at the request of the Cierk. We Want to be in proper procedure here. SENATOR DONAHDE: A1l righ*. Okay. FRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) So let's get to the other amendment. Whose -- is that Mr. I 200 I I !  STàTE OF ILLINQIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSIUN SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 Rigney's amendment? Whose amendment is this? We will eonsider Mr. Rigney's amendment first: with leave of the Body. Hearing no objections, read the -- Mr. Riqney: on Amendment No. Floor Amendment No. Senator Luft.

I want to make -- thank you, Mr. President. want to make sure we know what We're doins on the amendments. Are you sure the first amendment is not a ver.y large amendment?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LZCHOWICZ) That's the one now.

: And that is my -- under my sponsorship or Senator Rigneyds?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Riqney's.

So my -- the one that I'm sponsoring is number -- ?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 4. It's a east of thousands on this great bill. Senator Rigney. Xou got. a copy of al1 the amendments, Diek? Senator Luft. Okay. Senator Rigney. Want to put Rigney on?

Okay. Mr. President, very simple amendment. This, once again, is the backdoor provision that we voted on yesterday. Just a little insurance here. Sometimes pieces of legislation from our side of the aisle don't do particularly Well in the Houser and I think kt's very important that this eventually be enaceed into legislation, and with my good colleague, Senator Luft, at the head of the bill, wedd just kind of like to have a little secondary insuranee.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Luft. Senator Luft. On the amendment.

201  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 0h, I'm sorry. I6m sorry.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Rigney moves the adoption of -- of Ploor Amendment No. All in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 1's adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Donahue. PRESIDING OFPICER) (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Donahue. Amendment No.

Thank you, Mr. President. As I Was saying earlier, all this bill -- or all this amendment doese is to clarify what is already existing in the law. is not attempting to expand it.. Ie is simply trying to say, ''This is the way it is, and these are the people that are eligible for homestead exemptions.''

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Joyce.

Well: agaln, I am -- I an told that this ks going to ereate a 1ot of confusion -- that you -- that there is one little problem in your area of the State that you are seeking to eorrect, but the metbod that you've chosen to deal wkth tbat problem ks going to create enormous confusion on the part of the assessors throughout the State. So I -- I am rising in opposition at this time to your amendment, Senator.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any further discussion? Senator Luft. SENATOR LUFT ) Thank you, Mr. President. I would only like to point out that the amendment may not be necessary, simply beeause a1l mobile homes already qualify for the homestead exempkion to the extent they are taxed as real property. 202  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th CENERAL ASSEMDLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senatar Donahue, to close.

Thank you, Mr. President. I would clarify that -- the previous speaker in saying that, no they're not. A1l mobile homep are not eligible unless they are attached to a permanent foundation, and that's what we're trying to clarify. And al1 we add kn this amendment is if any vehicle or slmilar portabke structure is considered real property for the purposes of this Act, th: homestead exemption applies. This is LRà's language. This is the Department of Revenue has signed off on it. It doesn't expand the lak, and I would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendmenk No. 2 be adopted. A11 in favor, siqnify by saying Aye. Opposed. Roll call's been requested. A11 those in favor, signify by voting Aye. A1l those opposede by votin: Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted kho Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the reeord. On this question, there are 29 Ayes, 26 Nays, 1 recorded as Present. And the amendment's adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Rigney.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Rigney, Amendment No. 3.

Mr. Prestdent, what this amendment does is simply give everyone - every homeowner the thirty-five-hundred-dollar homestead exemption. Realize now it's on the base year of 1977. We find that fourteen years later, virtually everyone is getting it anyhow. As I looked over the numbirs for the various counties, I noke that four counties have already implemented this, re:ardless of the fact that maybe they don't quite have the 203  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBL; REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 authority to do so. But very, very minimal impact - and it really isn 't worth the time of the tax officials to try to determine whether or not someone is entitled to the full thirty-five hundred dollars of exemption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question is, shall Amendment No. 3 be adopted. All in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 3's adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Luft.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Luft.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 4 contains four bills: Senate Bill -- 1373: which was Senator Rigney ls; 1056, Senator Newhouse; 801, Senator Luft; and -- 1112, Senator Karpiel. This is an agreed amendnent by Senator Rigney, and I believe a1l members of the committee. It's very lengthy. I Will try to be as brief as I can. The bill allows nonresident beneficiaries of trusts and estates to file composite returns. It excludes homeowners and polltical organizations for paynent of estimated taxes. Replaces references to specific service oceupations Wtth a reference to service occupations in general. It extends the eligibility for two-twelfth-year <sic> (two-and-a-half-year) redemption period, and deletes partial redemption of separate undivided interest in delinquent tax sales property, and for counties other than Cook; specifies a new form of assessment noted -- notice, and repeals abatement lanquage for Eagle Creek. I Would move for the adoption of Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 1328.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question is, shall Amendment No. 4 be 204  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMSLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legtslatkve Day May 22# 1991 adopted. A11 in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed . Amendment No. 4 is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 1338. Senator Collins. Read the blll, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1338. qsecretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Insurance, Pensions and Licensed Activities offers dommietee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SCNATOR LECSOWICZ) Senator Collins.

Yes, thank you. Thks is an agreed amendment. The committee agreed to let the bill out with the contention -- and to go along with the Department to make it five years where they should keep the record: rather than how the bill is currently drafted - it's ten years. And I would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question is, shall Committee Amendment No. be adopted. All in favore signify by sayinq Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 1's adopted. Any further committee amendments?

No fureher committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Collins.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Collins. Earleans you have a Floor amendment. 205  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION I SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 SENATOR COLLINS: There is no -- shouldn't be Amendment No. 2, and if it is, it should be Tabled. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Lady withdraws it. Xou got two of them down here, though . Senator Collins: you have two amendments here on this bill. Want to take it out of the record? SENATOR COLLINS: No. No. No. No. I -- I thought the amendment that I put on Was five years. If it's not, then we -- we need to -- Table khat ' amendment I just put on: and then we'll put this one on, because . : the agreement Was five years. So -- so, I would just like to Table Amendment No. -- Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SEHATOR LECHOWICZ) Having voted upon the prevailing side, the Lady moves to Table Amendment No. 1. Hearin: no objectiony Amendment No. 1 is Tabled. Any further commlttee amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: No further committee amendments. PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKER: Senator Collins offers Amendment No. 2. GENATOR COLLINS: ïes: thank you. NoW, Amendment No. 2 is the agreed amendment from the committeey and I would move for its adoption. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Which one is it? Give her a number. SENATOR COLLINS: LRB8706l64JSj. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHQWICZ) Okay. The Lady moves the adoption of the agreed amendment on 206 : 1 h  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Floor Amendment No. 2. A11 in favor, siqnify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 2's adopted. Any Curther amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Also appearing on Page 10 ls Senate Bill 1349. Senator Joyce . J.c. Read the bill, Kadam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1349. (Secretary reads Eitle of bill) 2nd Readin: of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Eloor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 1352. Senator Holmberg. Out of the record . 1354. Out of the record. 1392. Read the bill, Madam Secretary . Senator Welch. SECRETAR: HAWKER: Senate Bill 1392. (Secretaty reads title of bilk) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Agriculture and Conservation offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Welch.

I would move to Table Committee Amendment No . 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Gentleman moves to Table Committee Amendment No. Hearing no objections, Committee No. -- Amendment No. l is Tabled. Any further eommittee amendments? 207  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

No Eurther committee amendments.

PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) No Ploor amendments? Okay. 3rd Reading. 1408. Senator Berman. 1424. Senator Raica. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1424. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Comnittee on Judiciary offers Committee Amendment No.

PRZSIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Raica.

Thank you, Mr. President. I1d like to Table Committee Amendment No. lz lcause I have a Floor amendment that'll do the same as the committee amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any objections? Gentleman moves to Table Committee Amendment No. 1. All in favor, siqnify by saying Aye. Aye. Opposed. Committee Amendment No. 1's Tabled. Any Ploor amendments?

Committee Amendment -- I mean -- pardon me -- Floor Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Raica.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Raica.

Thank you, Mr. President. Eloor Amendment No. 2 -- it does What Committee Amendment No. did, plus kt makes changes eomin: 208  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBL: REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislatize Day May 22 1991 y from negotiations wlth the NRA. The NRA is actually neutral on this bill: but we worke; ozer the last two, three weeks to come up with some kind of compromise and -- and -- and it appears that everything is worked out for the best in this one. The amendment makes the changes requested in committee, and reworks some of the penalties. And 1 just ask for adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question isp shall Amendment No. 2 be adopted. All in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 2's adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Raica. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZJ Senator Raica.

Yes, str. Mr. President, I'd like to Table thks amendment. please.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SDNATOR LECHOWICZ) Gentleman withdraws Amendment No. 3. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Raica.

PRESIDING OPFIQER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Raica.

Thank you, Mr. President. What this Floor amendment does is it requîres, on the FOID card application, that the Social Security number and the driver's license number of the applicant be added, including all the other information that 's already requested. NRA is also neutral on this, and we%ve talked to them over the past three weeks, and -- and I think we're going okay on this. I just ask for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 209  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 Any discussion? Question is, shall Amendment No . 3 be adopted. A11 in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No . 3 is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 1434. Senator Vadalabene. Out of the record. 1435. Senator Marovitz. John, you going to handle Sam's bill? With leave of the Bodf, welll have Senator D'Arco handle Senator Vadalabene's bill. 1434. Senator Védalabene <sic>. what purpose you seek recognition?

No, Marovitz's bill.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) I'm sorry. All right. 1435. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1435. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readinq of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Marovitz offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator D'Arco.

Thank you. This is an aqreed amendment with the Hospital Association, and it simply provides that any health care facility must permit visitation by any person or persons desiqnated by a patient. That's the substance of the amendment. I move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 210  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Any discussion? Question is, shall Amendment No . be adopted. A11 those in favor, signify by sayinq Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. l's adopted. Any further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: No further amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 1437. Madam Secretary: read the bill. SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Bill 1437. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. . PRESIDING OFFICER: :(SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Gentleman from Lasallee Senator Welch. I'm sorry . Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Readinq. 1440. Is your amendments ready? 1454. Senator Luft. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1454. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Luft offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECBOWICZ) Senator Luft.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 1 is an amendment that was requested by the Department of Revenue. And the amendment 21l  STATE QF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCZIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 ; deletes authorization for munlcipalities eo use TIF - Tax Increment - generated by induserial TIFs, to make revolving loans h I up to the thirty percent of the cost of the project for existing ! TIF purposes, and it deleted the use- of up to ftfty percent of ehe I tax increment generated by a project for property tax rebates, or j ! to provide transportation. I'd ask for the adoption of Amendment ) No. 1 to Senate Bill 1454. I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) I Any dtscussion? Question is, shall Amendment No. 1 be ! adopted. A1l in favor, signify by sayin: Aye. Opposed. I I ' Amendment No. 1's adopted. Any further amendments? I SECRETARY HAWKER: I ! No further amendments. . t i PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 1465. Senator Dunn. Read thebill,Madam 1 Secretary. SECRETARX HAWKER : Senate Bill 1465. (Secretary reads tltle of bill) 2nd Readinq of the bill. No committee amendments. ) PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) ; Any amendments from the Floor? ' SECRETARYEAWKER: j Senator Thomas Dunn offers Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENKTOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Dunn. SENATOR T. DUNN: Thank you very much, Mr. President. This bill originates out of dealin: with short-term securities - those that are maturing underninemonths. Andwehadaninckdentinmyareawhereonthe l material that was -- distributed, it said on it that it was regulated by the Department of Finaneial Institutions of the State 212  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 of Illinois. As a result of that, individuals who used their pension monies and their own private monies lost approximately twenty-nine thousand dollars. This language would obviously be prohibited from being placed on -- on documents of this kind, and inserted therein would be that ''This instrument is neither guaranteed, nor is the issuance thereof requlated by any agency of the Department of the State of Illinois or the United States'' of America. I urge adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question is, shall Amendment No. be adopted. Al1 in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 1473. Senator Severns. Out of the record, at the request of the sponsor. Leave of the Body, please turn to Page 9. Senate Bill 1285. Are there any objections? Hearing none, Madam Secretary, please read Senate Sill 1285.

Senate Bill 1285. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Transportation offers Commkttee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Watson.

ïes. Thank you, Mr. President. I appreciate you going back to this Order of Business. I was off the Floor when the bill was called earlier. Amendment No. 1 - Committee Amendment - was agreed to by the -- the truckers qroups and the Illinois Department of Transportation, and it redefines agricultural 213  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 movements, and I would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The question is, shall Amendment No. be adopted. A1l in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Committee Amendment No. l is adopted. Any further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Would you please turn your Calendar -- I'm sorry, to Paqe 11 on the Calendar. Senate Bill A-l0, on Recall. A-1l is on Recall. A-22. Senator Brookins. END 0F TAPE TAPE 5

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bill 22. (Secretary reads title of btll) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) I'm sorry. What was that, Howard? Qut of the record, at the request of the sponsor. 25. Senator Severns. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. 214  STATE OF ILLTNOTS 87th CENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

Senake Bill 25. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Readin: of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. I rise in strong support of Senate Bill 25 - the Pamily Leave Act. is a bill that has been discussed, debated, and negotiated during the last few years, here in Illinois and across the nation. need not repeat a1l the arguments for the bill that have been provided, but I would like to discuss information that has surfaced since our last debate. In a decision that was different from what they earlier pronounced, the Small Business Administration just two months ago released a study that found that firms Were already accustomed to managing workersl leaves. They concluded, and I quote --

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Penny. Excuse me. Senator Severns. It was my error. And unfortunately: we should -- we should start at 3-3-0. That's Where we left off yesterday. And please take it out of the record at the present time. Take the bill out of the record. And please kurn to Page l2. Well, I quess thereds been some discussion with the President's Office: so We're qoing to start with the beginnin: of the Calendar today and that's what we're doing. So, we fll go back to Senate Bill 25. And read the -- the bill has been read. Senator Severns, excuse the interruption. Please proceed. Senator Severns, please.

Thank you: Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Again, to Senaee Bill 25. I kould like to inform the Body of some 215  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLR REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 information --

PZESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Excuse me. Excuse me, Senator Severns. Senator Philip, what purpose you seek recognition?

Thank thank you. Thank you, Mr. President. We left off yesterday at 330. Why aren't we going baek to 330 again? That's what we normally do. I'm just Wondering. Is there any reason that We bre -- Welre not going back to where We left off?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Well, to tell you the truth, it was my mistake. And I proceeded to call go down the Calendar from l0, then understand that that was -- that Was at the -- that's what Senator Rock wanted to have done to begin with. And we're just talking about a feu bills. So wedll proceed, if you don't mind. Senator Philip.

Xeah. It kould just seem to me - wefve always done it. don't know why welre qoing out of order. We -- you know, we're not the House of Representatives. And if there's any logical reason to do it -- nobody said anything to me. And I'm just saying that: you know: some of my Members have bills that are close to that 330, and they would: quite frankly, like to run them.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECSOWICZ) We ere all àn that same position; thereis no question about And it was my error. And I started off at 10 and then they weren't around, I just Went down the -- and she was the first one to be called. It's up to the Lady. Senator Severns.

Mr. President, the President asked that We begin here, and I I believe he's made the right decision. 2l6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SESATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day #ay 22, 1991 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Please proceed. Please proceed. Hant to explain your bill?

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. To Senate Bi11 25. The additional information that has surfaeed since we had the debate last year goes to the Small Bustness Administration, who concluded that the net cost to employers of placinq workers on leave is alkays substantially smaller than the eost of terminatinq an employee. That studyw reversing an earlier decision by SBA, was released two months ago. A survey of employers in four states with family leave laws, released just this week in fact. reported in the Tribune this morning - found that ninety-one percent reported laws were not difficult to implement. In. fact, they continued to say that their study countered the argument of business groups that family leave legislation would mandate a costly benefie, especially to smaller companies. A Washington think tank, in a report entitled ''Unnecessary Losses,'' estimated that the -- that absent family leave policies, that the annual earnings lost to workinq families in Illinois is thirty-eiqht million dollars, and the annual cost to taxpayers is 6. 6 million in income and medical assistance costs. Pinally: and very recently, tbe National Governors' Association Report on Global Competitiveness noted that fundamental changes in employment support must occur if we are to maintain a quality workforce to compete in a global economy. This information, I believe, helps remove some of the concerns Ehat have been assoclated wlth *he business community. It also makes the case even more compellin: for the need to implement a famàly leave policy. Family leave reduces not only the stress and breakdown of families, but removes the concern that an individual must make the decision between takinq care of a family member or potentially losing their job. I have voted on this bill each time that I've been in the 2l7  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 Senate When the question has been before us. Little did know thae my own personal experience would make me think about it a little more closely. It was last December that my family found out that my twin sister was diagnosed wtth a very serious illness and that ny family and I would jugsle our schedules to be with her and her family out in Llncolny Nebraska. While my parenes covered the first couple of months during December and January, I Was in Lincoln, Nebraska, for the bulk of the month of February. returned only two days - the two days that we were scheduled in Session - during that month. If I had had an ordinary job uith ordinary hours, there is some question as to whether or not, after taking the bulk of that month off, I would have any job at all. Even with that prospect, I have no doubt that I would still choose to be with my sister and her family. We in this Chamber, with our ability to dictate our own sehedules, do not have to make that choice, and neither should the families of Illinois. I believe that the merits are there. The case ls compelling: and the pluses far outweiqh any concerns. I would urge an Aye vote.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The Lady from Adams, Senator Donahue.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. We have debated this issue many, many times over the last few years and -- afraid the votes have always been the same: and it comes down to a partisan roll call for the most part. And it's very difficult for many of us on this, because of the speech just given by Senator Severns, and I think we a11 feel for that type of a situation. But We do have a business - an industry out there that we have to take care of and understand the problems that exist there. This i: a mandate for companies with fifty employees or more. It has a negative impact there on small businesses. It has -- another objection to this is that there is costs associated 218  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22e 1991 with the unemployment insurance - we 've had some discussion ' about that today ' - but there are. And I also believe that this issue should be reGolved on a federal level, because of the competitiveness between businesses throughout the states. There's one more situation that I thlnk I also feel that this sidesteps the collective barqaininq proeess that we have in our State, and I would suggest a No vote on Senate Bill 25.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Gentleman from Dupage, Senator Hudson.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I rise in opposition to this bill, as I have several times before, for one basic reason. and that is, it seems to me that once again we are saying to business or compelling business to change what, in many of our minds. should be discretionary benefits into entitlements. These entitlements subject to lawsuits and al1 of tbe rest that is involved when an employee feels he or she is mistreated because of what seems to be their entitlement under the law. And -- and I think that this is the route basically that this will set us on. And it would seem to me that it would be in the interest of -- better interest of business in Illinois if we let these businesses decide for themselves what they ean afford to do and what they cannot afford to do for their employees. And I'm of the firm belief that most employers, if they want to keep their employees, and Want to keep them working and keep them happy, are going to use good judgment without the State of Illinois saying to them, ''You must do this and you must do that: because that is our declsion in Springfield. Welre imposing this upon you.'' And T I just think that the time is going to have to come when we stop imposing mandates on our business here in Illinois as best we canz lest we lose what business we have here in Illinois. say nothing about attracting new business into the State, Which: in the long 219  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIFT 31st Legkslative Day May 22, 1991 runy is, thinke going to be to the benefit of our working men and women in this State. What they want are jobs: opportunities, expandin: plants, expandin: business. And I don't think that mandating - mandating - further mandates on business is going to be a step tn that direction. And I would urqe you to thlnk about it regardless of side of the aisle. Think about and let's give this thing some real consideration before we vote Yes on it. As a matter of fact, I urge you, my colleagues, to vote No.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (/ENATOR LZCHOWICZ) Lady from 'Dupage, Senator Pawell.

Thank you very much, Mr. President. And I assume everybody in this Assembly has -- has made up their mind in -- in reality, but I would like to speak to my fellow women legislators - remind them What I have said in the past. I have talked to our colleagues from the West who have had this bill or this laW in place, and they have told me that it does not work. What, in reality, happens às that the wonen who would fall underneath this law are 1et go so that the businesses can qet underneath that fifty-employee number. What I was advised by our colleagues from the State of Washington, at a conference that I attended, was that iE kndeed this 1aw ever approaches passaqe in the State of Illinois, the best thing I could do for my economic stability is to invest in every Kelly Girl operation that I could could possibly invest in. That's what happens. The women are let go. The women who have children are not hired. The Women Who have aged parents are not hired. And the businesses start relying upon part-time employees from from organizations like the Kelly Girls, because then they don't fall underneath this. I think thts is a bad idea. I think it's going to hurt women. I donft think this is going to do khat we think it's golnq to do, and I wish you would seriously take a look at this and vote No. 220  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEABLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislatkve Day May 22, 1991

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Gentleman from Cook, Senator Kelly. SENATOR KELLY) Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Senaeor Fawell and some of the other Senators, I hope you had an opportunity to read this article which was circulated by Senator Severns. It certainly counters the statements just made by the previous speaker. I am very proud to support this bill. This issue has been up before. I'm sure wedre well aware of what it's about. think it's very fittinq that it's beinq called on a day when we're memorializin: our veterans, which -- this bill is what America is a11 about. I was proud to learn that my good friend and respected Conqressman in Wasbàngton, Henry Hyde, supported this proposal in Washington. And anyway, it's family-oriented, and I thknk kt's in the best interest of the State, and it's obviously one that's already being done by most companies voluntarily anyway. Over ninety-one percent are listed in here that are -- are doinq one form or another of family leave right now. So I encourage you to support Senate Bill 25.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Gentleman from Rock Island, Senator Jacobs.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of tbe Senate. Every year, when this bill has come up, I'd stand in support of it, but it's -- it is reluctant support, because I do understand some of the problems Ehat exist in ehe -- in *he area of unemployment insurance, et cetera. that I think We have to -- to take care of. But I but I just want to say one thin: on kt, because the concept from the other side of the aisle seems to be that it's a bad idea. I think it's a great idea. And I think it's somethinq that we should continue on and continue to work for. I'm like a lot of the others - I would like to see some 22l  STATE QF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leglslative Day May 22, 1991 proviso tbat if they take this family leave, that they're not eligible for unemployment. But that's another issue , and that's -- so I -- rise in -- in support of this legislation. plan to vote for it.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Lady from Winnebago, Senator Holmberg.

I rise in strong support of the Family Leave B&ll. We in this Body have been concerned since last August with numerous pieces of legislation tö allow Illinois eitizens to take time off from work. Why? To participate in Desert Shield and Desert Stormo' And khis Week *e are still voting on legislation to recognize the sacrifices of those who spent those Many months akay from home. In fact, many of us in thts Body OE fifty-nkne wondere; what we gould do i: Senator Roqer Eeats' reserve unit Was called away for eight weeks ot more. How would we manage?

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LCCHOWICZ) Have a big party. Please proceed.

Our country has been recognized worldwide for being the first to respond to Kuwait's illness and imminent death; and our caring saved a nation. In stark contrast, the U.S. is recognized worldwide as the last industrialized nation to respond to the birth of a child, a serious illness or a death of its individual citizens the only country to deny famlly leave eo its citizens. Certaknly on this day of our most meantngful memorial ceremony, we can vote to create a country fit for our heroes to live in. We can vote to support just eight weeks of unpaid family leave. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZJ Gentleman from Cook, Senator Brooktns. SENATOR BROOKINS) Thank you . Would the sponsor yield for a question? 222  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Indicates she will. SENATOR BROOKINS) What -- what size -- she Will.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Yes.

Okay. You confused me.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Well: it's Senator Severns' bkll.

Ves. Oh. What size businesses are we talking about, Senator? PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECEOWICZJ Senator Severns.

Employers with fifty or more employees.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SZNATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Brookins.

Thank you.

PRESIDIHG OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Newhouse.

Thank youy Mr. President. Mr. President, I'm going eo vote for this bill, but I'd llke to :et into the record what my real position is. My real positton is that I represênt a constituency that is not employed. I represent a constituency that finds it extremely difficult to come into the mainstream of employment so khat, over time, they can raise fanilies. come from a constituency Where the family breakup is absolutely disastrous, where there is somehow what seems to be almost a conspiracy to prevent the kind of involvement in the economy that permits what 223  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22# 1991 naturally ought to happen, and that is male and female eome together and raise a family. Raising a family, as most of us knowe costs money, and it must come from somewhere. In communities with high unemployment rates, that is simply impossible. So that what we have is a situation that is a conundrum we need to address, and that is the failure of family structures, particularly in urban areas - not only in Illinois, but throuqhout this country - where the creation of female-headed households is endemic: and khere the costs to tbe public are simply staggering. The other side of the coin is the missing male part of that fankly. And we ftnd them more increasingly at Stateville and similar institutions. Who are they? Many of them are the kind of entrepreneurial talent that ought be in the mainstream of the economy of this State. Let me give you one example. When I visit Mccormick Place under construction and go into the parkinq 1ot khere the ears of the korkers are parked, I see license plates from Oklahoma, Nevada, West Virginia out of state. Most of the plates I see in that parking 1ot from Illinois carry suburban stickers. So Chicago tax money went to build Schaumburg Village and half a dozen other institutions. State Street never got a shot at it. It never turned over tn our community. And nowy @r. Fresident, WeVre seriously talkkng about importing labor from Europe for construction purposes. Nowy you tell me how that makes Eense. And I don't expect an answer to that. But this needs to be aired in this forum so that there is no misunderstanding of where our tax dollars are going and Why, and there's no misunderstandinq that khose who most need something in the nature of a family leave program will not participate in this. That's wrong. And you know who pays for it? Everybody. If my constituents want to know where their tax dollars are going, they're going into a system that prevents participation in the economy for a large number of people who could do very well as 224  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22e 1991 entrepreneurs in this economy. And let me tell you what's happening in my district and others. My young males are going to Stateville to :et their M.B.A.S, and they get them there and come back out and do very well, thank you. They reeurn from time to time. They get kilked often. But the Eacts of lkfe are wkth the kind of talent that they have, that's what they've found theylve had to do. One of my constituenks - a young person - has a national corporation, the likes of which would compare to any, With outlets in evéry eity in this country, with international ties, with a 'board of dtrectorsy kith an advancement system internally and with a pension plan. You qo to jail - he111 take care of your family. Those are bard faeks, Mr. President. And they're facts at some stage we need to deal with if Illinois is qoin: to have an economy that competes with the remainder of the states in these United States. And We're going backward. So this whole notion of how We go about economic development, this whole notion of how people participate in &te we discuss as if the ground is level and everything is fair. Well, 1et me tell you - for a great portion of my community, you can't talk family leave because there isn't any family. And the taxpayers are picking up the tab for what ouqht be done by a family head. Early on, Mr. President, my youngsters are convinced that khat We 're talkinq down here is nonsense; that they don't participate in it; that they won't participate in it; ehat they cannot participate in it, and that the eards are stacked against them. And: Mr. President, Ilm sorry to say. tbey are right. àt some point, We're going to have to come eo grips With *be real problem. Because What is happening now is# for example, the widow of the construction worker who made good money in the forties, had a good pension plan in the forties, in this nineties period of funny money is probably goin: to lose that bunqalow and maybe physically starve. Why? Because the taxes have qone up and up and up, and they continue to 225  ETATE 0P ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 climb, because we're keeping out of the eeonomy a large amount of talent and skill - an entrepreneurial instinct that ought be in. Mr. President, that's a long speech. More than I'd like to have given. I hope, though: it does begkn to make us open up our eyes to what the real issues are to some of us whose constituents do not partkcipate in the economy we talk so qllbly about dokn here.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Newhouse, would you kindly bràng your remarks to a close?

Closed. PRESIDING OFFICER: :(SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Thank you. The Gentleman from Cook, Senator Butler.

Thank you, Mr. President. I'd like to address somewhat the issue of the fifty employees -- or more, beeause I think there's some mist#ken notion that there ls an owner, boss and forty-nine people on some sort of a assembly line that can be interchanged . Let me gàve you an idea of a company I'm very familiar with, and try to understand what the missing one or two people from this force might mean to the entire eompany and to the well-being of al1 of the Workers. There are two people in data processing; in aecounting there are three; in sales there are two; in engineering there are two; and three foremen. Now, any one of those individuals is important to -- to the whole. And if theytre allowed to -- or -- or -- or if they demand to be left off for eight weeks, what happens to that company? What happens at data processing? What happens to accounting? Each one of those positions is interdependent. So we ean't look at this as -- fifey as some sort of an knterchangeable. :ou can'k move a salesman into the accounting department, for example. So we have to think very carefully of its effect on very small businesses. This is 226  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GCNERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 not General Motors, with ten thousand workers. This is a company that employs fifty-two people - every one of which is important.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Gentleman from Whiteside, Mr. -- Senator Schuneman.

Thank you, Mr. President. A question of the sponsor.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Indicates shedll yield.

Senator, -- I've heard the speeches and I -- I understand where they come from . I think the first thing that I want to say ls that most employers try to be constderate to employees who have ehe kind of problems that you described in your own life. And the problem resides in -- in the other part of the workforce that might somehow misuse thàs benefit that you seek to bestow upon them. My question is this: is there anythin: in thts bill that says, for example, the number -- that sets a limit on the number of people who may be on family leave at any one time in a company? I'm thinkin: of -- of the company that Senator Butler has just been speaking of. What if -- what if ten people decide at the same time they want family leave? Apparently, there's no way under the law that the employer could fail to keep a1l ten of those jobs open. Am I eorrect in that, or is there some kind of limit that is in the bill that would protect against a situation like that?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns. SENATOR SEVERNS; There is nothing in the bill to limit that. A1l of the studies that I mentioned earlier suggest that that policy has not been abused.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 227  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legkslative Day May 22, 1991 Senator Schuneman.

Thank you, Mr. President. Well it seems to me that thatês a valid concern. To mandate upon all the small employers and there are a 1ot of them with fifty or more throughout this State that simply couldn't stand to have several of their employees go on leave at one time. And if youlre drafting leqislation that is not intended to do serious harm to the economy of this Seate, it seems to me that you ought to consider that.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) President Rock.

Thank you: Mr. Presidenk, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. rise in# aqain, strong support of Senate Bill 25, and I think, unfortunately, this has the appearance at least of some kind of a partisan measure, and it eertainly should not be. The State of Illinois has afforded this kind of family responsibility leave to its own employees for a number of years. There has been no substantial damage that.I'm aware of to any agency or department of the State, recognizing: as I think we must - and I would point ouk to Senator Butler if you've got a company with fifty or fifty-two or fifty-three employees, and they are valued employees, the employee does not want to take this kind of a leave. This is a lMave that is in response to a responsibility that he or her he or she has. It just seems to Re -- khis -- this tssue *as been before us before, and it just seems to me that we have to strike that balance that we are called upon to do. There is no one of us, I dare say: on this Floor who wishes to impose mandates on either the Federal Government, the State Government: the business community, our constieuents, but the fact is We are charged with the formulation of public policy. And the policy in this Statey kt seems to me, ouqht to be pro-family. We ought to be dotng 228  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 everything possible to foster family life. We went through a Wbole host of appropriattons this morning - almost thïrteen l i billion dollars worth - and I daresay the thrust of most of those I social service budgets is to instill and protect and preserve the family. This leçislation will do that. And so We have to admit, yes - unfortunately, yes - we are mandating to a business community that's not unresponsive - many of the major corporations already do this - but what we are saying is, as a matter of public policy, it is more important that we ensure and protect family responsibility, and we will take the weight - we will take the heat - for another mandate. This is somethinq that ought not be partisan. This is somethin: that is in the best i/terest of the people of Illinois, and I would urge an Aye vote.

PRESIDING OPEICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Lady from Dupage, Senator Karpiel.

Well, thank you: Mr. President. I frankly wasn't going to 9et up and speak on this bill again: since I have been for the last several years, but Senator Rock and Senator Kelly and other Members of that side have said that buslness in this State is not unresponsive. The State of Illinois has this program and many businesses in this State has -- have this proqram. And yes: it would be desirable eo be an employee in a company that provided this proqram. But What we are sayinq here, Senator Rock, is that we are in the business of mandating programs, mandating thinqs on not only local governments, but business as Well. Ke're not talking about chlld labor laws here. Welre talking about something that should be done in a collectlve bargaining session, i that should be negotiated at the table. If you have a company -- 1 ) if you're working for -- if I were Working for a company and most 1 ' I j of the people that Were working for that small company Were my I I age, believe me, I would probably rather have good dental I ! 229  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 insurance mueh better than we provide our people here at the State - than I would this. And if it was a choice, I would prefer maybe other benefits - maybe a higher salary, maybe more vacation time, maybe a lot of things. But this is just pure and simple meddling in business in Illinois, and I think it's wrong. And think We should just mind our own business when it comes to things like that. Let this be done by the business community and the employees' unions and neqotiated at the table and not mandated by the State. And I urgé a No vote.

PRCSIDING OFFICER: (SENATQR LECHOWICZ) Senator Severns, to close.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. I realize this issue has been before us many times in the past. I believe lt will be before us until We recognize that as a Body we have continually promoted that fanilies must remain intact. I know of no policy that helps families remain intact better than the provisions outlined in SB 25. eor every day in Illinois, there are families forced to choose between accompanying one child to a dialysls in another comnunityp or feedinq another chlld; caring for a spouse at home or paying the spouse's medical bills; keeplng a dying parent at home where they can die with dignity or supporting their children. Thts policy is not for people like us who already enjoy the flexibility to determine our own schedules. It is for the vast majority of Illinois families who lack that ability and who are foreed to choose between their family and their job. For those countless families, I urge an Aye voee. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The question is, shall Senate ;ill 25 pass. Al1 in favor, vote Aye. Al1 opposed, vote Nay. The vottng is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? Please take the reeord. 230  1 STATE OP ILLINOIS REGULARSESSION 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY ) SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legistative Day May 22, 1991 On this question, there are 32 Ayes, 26 Nays, l recorded as Present. This bill, having received the constitutional majorityy is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 72. Senakor Joyce. J.E. Out of the record. 130. Senator Woodyard. That's on the Recall. l32 is on the Recall. 143. Senator Rea. Out of the record. l60's on the Recall. 200's on the Recall. 213. Senator Jones. Out of khe record. 226. Senator Smith. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

Senate Bi11 226. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the 7 . bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Smith.

Thank you. Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I am again appealing for not Margaret or for you - I'm appealinq for the constituency of the State of Illinois. Since the -- in liqht of the fact that tbe Covernor cut the general assistance grants, *eg the General Assembly, should stand up for those families who will be hurt by these cuts. This billz 226, amends the Public Aid Code to provide that all grants amounts shall be adjusted annually by the same percentaqe as the annual adjustment of Social Seeurity and Supplemental Seeurity Income benefits. This bàll, in 1993 - not now will give public aid recipients a 5.4 percent grant increase, an increase commensurate with the Social Securtty and Supplemental Security Income benefits, every year thereafter. Public aid recipients are already living far below the standard of need: and this bill will increase the public aid grants and allow public aid recipients to live more humanely. When you leave here, Sprinqfield, and go back into your communities or go on some of the maln streets, the City of Chlcago 231  STATE OP ILLINUIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 and in tbe suburbs, youtre going to find people sleepkng in boxes: some people are crying and since the the reeent announeement has just been announced about the cuts, people see no hope. know you're talking at me now and youdre not concerned, but tbese thinqs are a reality. People are suftering rïght now and they don 't know where they're going to go e what they're going to do. And I'm trying this bill, 226 - it's not goin: to become active until 1993. And so I$m asking you today to please consider this bill by qiving me a Yes vote on Senate Bill 226. is very important that we qive hope to the people of the State of Illinois; that they will know that the -- the Legislature here is in sympathy With their plight. Would you please give me a favorable vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Al1 right. We have a number of Members that kish to speak. Senator Donahue.

Well, thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I would urge people to kind of calm down a minute here and -- and look at what we're doing. Senate Bill 226 is a cost of living increase for our grants in the public aid or kelfare area. It sets it to the CPI in, as I understand it, January of 1993. Everybody in this room knows that the Gtate of Illinois is faeing a major budget crisis because of thinqs that happened a few years a:o that locked us into fukure funding down the road, funding that the -- the approprlations process Wouldn't have control over. It's a difficult time and it is not the time to be setting somethin: in concrete for future Leqislatures and fueure budgets down the road. We need to 1et a handle on spending right now and be able to eontrol it through the budgetary process . This is a bad proposal and something that would be very difficult to control. hnd 1 urge a No vote. 232  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22e 1991

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATQR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Collins. Could we break up the conferences? Senator Collins.

Yes, thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. I rise in strong support of Senate Bill 226. First of all, it does not require any -- put any strain on our budget at this time, as the sponsor said. And more importantly, it will take the whole public aid struggle, which has gone over the years: out of the political arena, and brinq about some reality to that whole proceps. The intention of the Public Aid Frogram in the first place was to provide temporary assistance eo families with dependent cbildren while we work with them to help them to get back on their feet to become self-sufficient. But every year in this Chamber it becomes a political football - that side of the aksle trying to see just How little they can provkde in assistance: and this side of the aisle, of course, constantly fighting that struggle because somebody somewhere have determined that we are social -- more social conscious than the Republieans and vice versa. It makes no sense. What Senator Smith has done was to have tied this whole thing to a cost of living adjustment; ehat it would be automatically adjusted and we don't have to fight every year to try to qet increases. And not every year. And of cour#e, we lose the battle every year. But at some point: if we want to free the taxpayers of the burden of those people on public aid: we have :ot to bite the bullet in a short-term method to provide adequate income so those people can: ln faet. go on and live decent lives and be motivated and encouraqed to go out and try and get them a job or to try and qet the training necessary so that they can become gainful employment. That's what this bill would do, and I think we ought to pass this bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 233  STATE QF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 Al1 right. Purther discussion? Senator Newhouse.

Thank you thank you -- thank you, Mr. President. First, Mr. President, I don't know if there's such a proeedure' but like to incorporate by reference everything I just said a moment ago, so that that doesn't have to be repeated. But let me sugçest to this Body - letfs forqet social purpose. Let's forget good will. Let's forget a11 those good things we talk about in our social conversations and in the Bible we read, and a1l the rest -- let's forget 'all that. Let's talk very practically about what we have before us. What we have before us is a constant underfundin: of what we like to think of as a social purpose that is going to move people from a level of poverty and nonpartieipation in the economy and in society, to a position where they do participate and where they are a part of a normal society and where We can have families. And out of families will grow communities. Well, let's stop kidding ourselves. The fact is that what the Senator ks proposing to us today is khat is a modest proposal - an absolutely modest one. It represents a minimum of what *e ought to do in order to begin the process of brinqing back -- people back into the economy. I'm not sure anyone is listening. I'm not sure the mànds haven't already been made up. Wefve been through much of this before, but it would be derelict on the part of the Senator from the 13th District to permit What I see about to happen, to happen without at least injecting those remarks into khe record. And for that, Mr. President, I thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Furtber discussion? Senator Karptel.

Thank you, Mr. President. would like to jusk sort of follow up on what Senator Newhouse has been sayinq. By -- by tying -- mean, I have a lot of points to make on this bill, but by tying, 234  STATD OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 you knowe the -- the -- our Public Aid budget and their amount that they get to a cost of living increase does nothing to help solve the problem. It does nothing to help get these people, help these people get off of welfare and lnto jobs. I bave always supported Senator Newhouse's attempts to get more minorities into the construction trades and into job opportunities. A program like thts does nothing but perpetuate -- qive these people hope, but it just perpetuates the same thing. We don't have any opportunity in a bill like this to help these people help themselves and 9et employment and get off the welfare rolls. A1l it does is perpetuate thinqs as they are now. In addition, from a Statewide perspecttve, What it does is it ties our hands. Whae's the budget process for if wefre qoing to say starting in 1993 we're goinq to do this and qet into one of these entitlement programs, which is What has broken tbe bank, the Pederal Government, and of the State Government? This is a bad idea. As much a I'd like to help the peoplee Senator Smith, this is a bad idea. Thls isn't helping them in the long run. It's hurting the State. And may I just say, starting With the Eirst year: it will be another 61.7-mi1lion-do1lar hit on the GRP: and we're in a hole now. I urge a No vote.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Further discussion? Senator Topinka.

Yes, MI. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the -- Senate. FirsE of atl, you know, We don't have 67.9 million dollars. I think everybody has been made aware that we are in the hole. We're tryinq to just thin out this budget as much as possible to cover as many social services as We can, to 9et peopley you know, into some shape and be able to bail them out and hold them together and do what ue can with so little money. So, Why -- we should insist at thts point to try and add 67.9 million back into 235  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 this whole concept is just outlandish. Furthermoree this - and this kind of dovetails into What Senator Karpiel said - it really and truly amounts to a -- a Muaranteed annual income. It's plantation politics. We are creating a dependent class that has absolutely no way to get off of public aàd. We are not helping people with this. We absolutely burt them in the long run. And it's so undignified. I appreciate what Senator Smith is trylng to do, but I think she's coming at this the wrong way. I do urge a No vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? If not, Senator Smith may close.

Thank you --

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Oh . I'm sorry . Senator DlAreo, for uhat --

Senator DeAnqelis Was blocking my view, but did you had my light on, though. Did you see my light on?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATQR DEMUZIQ) No. senator DeAngelis was not sitting on my machine here, no. Senator D'Arco.

Thank you. Mr. President, I rise in strong support of this b&ll. I don't -- I don't quite understand What the opponents are sayàng. It seems to me itfs always us and them. Ie's like there's two differenk planets on this Earth of ours. There's the planet of the Doris Karpiels. and then there's the planet of the poor people. And, like, they don't lïve with poor people. They don't know how poor people live. They don't knaw that poor people are erying to make it in this real world We live in, trying to survtve against the odds. I mean: if you live in Winnetka. there's no Way you can comprehend that. And I don't know Where Doris 236  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 lives, but I know Where I live, I see it every day - people asking me for jobs. We don't want to be on Welfare. We want to kork. We want to 9o to work, but We can't, because the economy 's bad and there's no jobs out there. And Fresident Bush is saying, ''Don't worry about 1t. The economy's qoing to get better.'' 5ue nobody knows when. That's why he's got this Ehyroid condition hels worried about. I mean, Ladies and Gentlemen, what are we asking for here? 63 million dollars. To take effect When? In 1993. If the economy's better? ke won't have to worry about it. It won't take effect then. We'1l be able to put people back to kork. Let's wake up and smell the roses.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATQR DEMUZIO) All right. Further discussion? Well, now we have everybcdy. Senator Hall.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I rise in support of this bill. You know, it's so strange that the conception -- the real money in public aid is not in Children and Family Service. A1l of you know that. It's in the health funds and nursing homes and places like that. But you know, it's strange - these rascals in S & L stole billions and billions of dollars and not a one of them -- a11 of them should be put in jail. We find money to take eare of those people. It's just hard to take care of people Who are suffering. And 1'11 tell you this: that it's not easy and, sure, like we're saying. But I just want to tell you that it's a misconception around here. People don't want to be on public aid. If -- if you can imagine. T'Me -- T bear lt a 1ot of times, say, ''Folks jus: stay on publie aid - they're tryinq to have a 1ot of children.'? And the real monies in public a&d is not in Chtldren and Eamily Services. So, weere intelligent people around here. We knoW What's happening. I urge a vote for this. 237  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22z 1991

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Purther diseussion? Senator Geo-Karis.

Well, Mr. President --

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) And We pll get back to those who voted -- who wish to speak a second time at the end. SENATOR GEO-KARISI I'm the first one.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Oh. Senator Karpiel, for what purpose do you arlse?

Well, I rise on a point of personal privilege. My name was mentioned in debate. And I would like to just inform everyone that I live in Carol Stream, whieh is a poorer sectlon of Dupage County. I do not live on Lake Shore Drive, nor do I represent the Gold Coast. I represent a whole lot of people who are barely making it, where both the -- both parents have to Work to make ends meet and they are living from paycheek to paycheck. And they're living in an area khere they want to live because it is low-crimey good schools, a nice place to llve, but believe me, it isn't cheap and it isn't easy. And for anyone to suqgest that I don't know khat it's like to be poor - theyfre r'ighk - I've never been poor. But you want to know something? I am probably one of the poorest legislators in this aody or the other Body, because I live on my salary and my salary alone. ànd it is not easy to do where I llve and payinq the taxes I pay and the cost of living I pay. So I rather resene the comments made that I don't know what it's like to be poor or that I only represent the Wealthy, because, Senator Ddhrco, that is not true. I represent Hanover Park : Glendale k Helghts, Carol Stream, and yesz some other wealthy suburbs. But my entire district is not wealthy. It is more 238  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSERBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 middle-class and some parts are lower-middle class, and they're having a tough time making it. And every time we raise things -- we spend money on things here and raise the taxese they're just bavin: a much more difficult time paying for it.

PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Further discussion? Senator Geo-Karls. SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, I think some of us do know what poor means, and ir we keep qoing on some of these bills. khe poor will be poorer, because we kon't have enough money to help them. And talk about people I echo the sentiments of Senator Karpiel, because I live in Zion, Illinois - distressed area. North Chicago is in my district - distressed area. Don't tell us we don't knok about poor people. But we've qot to have some common sense. And we're trying to restructure a budget so we can have some money to give to the poor people. And we dre not goin: to do it khen We keep doing things like these. And I eertainly, heartily agree With Senator Karpiel, and I oppose this bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further diGcussion? There's no other lights on except senator Smith. Senator Smith may close.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen. I did not come here for a discussion about personalities. I came here to speak eo you about people Who are on the outside of these Chambers - cannot get in here, but they have something to Gay to us all. When we go to these forums and hold these meetings - appropriation and welfare meetinss Mr. and Mrs. America ls talking ea us. Like one lady said at the Masonie Hospital - she saysz '#I want you to know that there'is some poor people in Dupaqe Countyl that everybody in Dupaqe County is not wealthye'' Xe are here to talk 239  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLï REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 about people who are trying to make it. Truee no one wants to be on welfare. Everyone has pride. They want to live and exert that pride. They want to go to sehool, but if they go to school, they have no one to take care of their children. So some of them touqh and try to take the children with them and then yee try to go to school so that they may have an education. We are talking about families - husbands, wives with children - who are seeking to try to make a livihg and a better way of life. D1d you not know that a family of 'three - a family of three are only survtving on. three hundred and sixty-five dollars a month? A family of three. And so. I'm asking you that the public aid assistance is living eodéy way below the poverty line. And we must qlve these people some hope; otherwise, we're not goin: to be able to walk streets out here. and you're not qoing to be able to live in your home. And we're not talking about tomorrow or 1992, wedre talking about Way in 1993. So I ask you out of the mintage Ksic> of my heart, for these people who cannot speak for themselves, that you show a bit of compassion and give an Aye vote. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMPZIO) Question is# shall Senate Bk1l 226 pass? Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted *ho wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted kho wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Last call. Take the record. On that question. the Ayes are 23e the Nays are 32, voting Present. Senate Bill 226, having failed to receive the required eonstitutional najority, ls declared lost. 243. Senator Thomas Dunn. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd peading is Senate Bill 243. Madam Secretary. I'm sorry. Senator D'Areo, for what purpose do you arise?

240  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Point of personal privilege, Mr. President. PRESIDING OPFICER; (SENATOR DEMUZIO) State your point.

If I offended Senator Karpiel, I -- I kould apologiae to her, because it was not my intent to offend her. And I'm -- I'm very sorry if I did. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Senator Karpiel.

Thank you very much. PRDSIDING OFPICER: 'ISENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. Senate Bill 226: Mr. Secretary. Read the bill. A11 riqht. Ilm sorry. 243, Mr. Secretary.

ACTING SECRETARK: (MR. HARRY) Senate Bill 243. (Secretary begins to read title of bill)

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Well -- hold it just a moment. Senator Smith, for what purpose do you arise?

I'm -- I1m asking, sir, is it possible I can put it on Postponed Consideration?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. The sponsor has requested Postponed Consideration on 226. Poskponed Consideration is granted. Senate Sill 243, Mr. secretary. Read the bill.

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) Senate Bill 243. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 241  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATC TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Senator Dunn.

Thank you, Mr. President. This bill would require a county chairman of a political party other than thae of the county board chairman or the county executive, to prepare and submit a list of qualified party members to the county clerk from which the appointment's nade by the county board chairman or county executive shall be made. It exempts Cook County.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Is there discussion? Senator DeAngelis. SENATQR DeANGELIS: Questkon of the sponsor.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Indicates he will yield. Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Senator Dunn, how many counties does this bill apply to?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Dunn.

Al1 except yours, Senator.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: No. I -- please qive me the correct answer. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) ? A11 rigbt. Senator Dunn. Senator DeAngelis. Ladies and Gentlemen, wedre going to be here all nighe. Wedre not going to :et out of here on Priday. Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: I asked *- I asked the sponsor a question, sir.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) The sponsor indicates he didn'e hear you. Senator DeAngelis. 242  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22: 1991 SENATOR DeANGELIS: How -- how many counties, this legislation were enacted, would apply to?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Dunn.

A11 except Cook.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator DeAnqelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Well: then 1et me ask another question. How many counties have county executives?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Dunn.

Senator, this applies to county ehairmen or county executives. Either/or.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: But only tn those cases in which there's a county executive.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Dunn.

It applies to counties that have a county executive and it applies to counties that have a county chairman -- county -- county board chairman.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator DeAngelis: SENATOR DeANGELIS: Well, I -- I think if you read this legislation, it would, in fact: apply only to Wi11 County. because the party opposiee of the 243  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 county executive - and Cook -- and Will County is the only one that has a county executive - kould then have to submit their appointments at the beginning of their term, which could be for four years, to that particular persone who would then make the choices that normally fall into the prerogative of either the county board ehairman or the county chairman. And I don't know where ln good public policy schools this philosophy ought to be followed. So I very vehemently oppose this piece of legislation.

PRESIDING OFFICZR: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Further diseussion? If there's no further discussion, Senator Dunn may elose. SENATOR T. DUNN ; Thank youy Mr. President. Not to belabor the point, S.enator, but you are in error. It does apply to a eounty board chairman or a county executive. I have the bill in front of me. I think if it did apply just to Wi1l Countyp you'd probably be against anyway, but it applies to the Whole State. And what it does is it cuts both Ways. It insures that the party in power selects true party members, and so does the minorlty party have a right to select true party members. And there's nothing wronq with that. I urqe an Aye vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Question is, shall Senate Bill 243 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question: the Ayes are 23, the Nays are 28, none votlng Present. Senate 9i1l 243, having failed to received the required constitutional majority: is declared lost. 269. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 269, Mr. Secretary.

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRX) Senate Bil1 269. 244  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIFT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) jenator Jacobs.

Thank you, Kr. Preskdent, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This bill, as amended, clartfies that the prepayment section of the Interest Act does not apply to the inGtillment loan rate, the Consumer Installment Loan Act and the Retail Installment Sales Ace. The prepayment section of the Interest Act affects mortgages on rpal estatep and under that clause, if you pay your mortgaqe off early, you don't owe any more interest. Class Action suits have been filed With that -- which allege this elause applies to the other Acts. This bill makes it clear that the prepayment provision of those Acts stand on their own. Be happy to answer any questions.

Senator Jacobs has moved the passaqe of Senate Bk11 269. Discussion? If not, the question is, sball Senate B111 269 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, voee Nay. And the voting is open. Have all voted Who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 55 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. Senate Bill 269, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senator Maitland. Top of Paqe l2, Ladies and Gentlemen, on the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading, Senate Bill 284. Senator Marovitz. 2-9-3. Senator Cullerton. Top of Page l2, Ladies and Gentlemen, on the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Readlng ls Senate Bill 293. Read the bill, please.

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) Senate Bill 293. (Seeretary zeads title of biI1) 245  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislatlve Day May 22, 1991 3rd Reading of the bill.

Senator Cullerton.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. This bill was on the Aqreed Lists but ke took it back for an amendment at the request of the Secretary of State 's Office. And with that amendment, theyfre in agreement. It would require that securities dealers provide to clients on an annual basis a specific disclosure dodument, which be known as the Illinois Investors' Bill of Rights. It would include information regarding securities regulators: dealers and salespersons: as well as the risk involved in securities transactlons and the resolution of disputes. The cost to the securittes dealers is minimal, because, as We said, they only have to do this annually. It's a -- a one-page document, and it could be mailed with any eonfirmation order or the opening of a new account. The Secretary of State would, by rule, specify the information to be contained. They could print it and the dealers could reimburse the Secretary of State's Office for the document. And as I indicated, the Secretary of State asked for an amendment ehat would, in effect, push back the effective date till nlne months after the effective date of the Act before they'd had to comply. And I agreed to that. And so I believe it's a very good bill and appreeiate your support.

Senator Cullerton has moved passaqe of Senate Bill 293. Discussion? Senator Keats.

Just a quick question. I did review the amendment. Do you have any idea what position the securities industry has taken on this bill?

246  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLK RECULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Senator Cullerton. Senator Cullerton.

Yes, I did ealk to one of the representatives. And one of the amendments that I adopted at their request dealt with -- limited it to -- not requirinq the Investors' Bill of Rights Document to go to institutional clients. It would only go to individuals Who trade. And in Committee, they dkdn't object after I agreed to that amendment. So I don't know if they have any opposition now. As I said: the cost ié absolutely minimal. Itls just one piece of paper. and they can mail it with their -- annually With their -- their regular confirmation orders.

Further discussion? Any further discussion? If not, the question ise shall Senate Bill 293 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted Who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Take the record. On that questton, there are 58 Ayesy no Nays, none voting Fresent. Senate Bill 293, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. With leave of the Body, we'll back up. Senator Marovitz has now Cound his file. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Readin: is senate Bi11 284. Mr. Secretary, read the bill, please.

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRT) Senate Bill 284. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Readin: of the bill.

Senator Marovitz.

Thank you very much, Mr. -- Mr. President and Members of the senate. senate Bill 284 makes clubs and institutions which have more ehan 400 members and provide regular meal service and receive 247  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TNANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 payments directly or indirectly from members, subject to the Human Rights Act. which prohibits discrimination based on race, color, religion, national origin, ancestry , age, sex: marital status, handkcap, et cetera. And that's a11 the bill doel, and I Would ask for a favorable roll call.

Senator Marovitz has moved passage of Senate Bill 284. Discussion? Senator Geo-Karis. SENATOR GEO-HARIS) Wil1 the sponsor yield for a question?

Sponsor indicatei he Will yield, Senator Geo-Karis. SENATOR GEO-XARISI Senator Marovitz, does your --

Indieates he Will yield.

Thank you. Does your bill exclude fraternal organizations like the Moose Club: Eagles and others?

Senator Marovitz.

Yes, it does, Senator Geo-Karis. They came in with an amendment which I agreed to and put on their amendment.

senator Geo-Karis.

And does àt exclude religious qroups: too?

Senator Marovitz.

Thank you. 248  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBL: REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

Xesv does.

Further discussion? Senator Fawell.

Question for the sponsor.

Sponsor indicates he kill yield. Senator Fawell. SENATOR FAWELL) Does your bill exclude I've got -- I've got a couple country clubs in my -- in'my district. Does it exclude them?

Senator Marovitz. SENATOR MAROVITZJ Depends on the size of the country club. If there are over four hundred members and provide regular meal service with dues-paying members, theylre not excluded. But my guess is that your country clubs are not -- would not be included.

Further discussion? Senator Jacobs. Jacobs. Jacobs.

Mr. -- Thank you, Mr. Presidentr Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senator Marovitz yield for a question?

Senator indicates he will yield: Senator Jacobs.

Senator, does thls also -- I know one of the concerns that was passed on to me by some of the people in my district was that khis also would affeet a rental out. So if you're a club, and you rent your club out to another qroup, are you then responsible for what that other group's actions are? PRESIDENT R0C#: 249  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Senator Marovitz.

No, kould not include them: because they -- they would nct be regular dues-payin: meùbers to the organization.

Eurther discussion? Senator Donahue.

Thank you: Mr. Presldent. Question of the sponsor.

He indicates he will yield, Senator Donahue.

Senator, does -- is a woman a minority under your definition in this legislation?

Senator Marovitz.

Minorities are not defined under this legislation at all. This is part of the Human Rights Act. So this doesn't change anything baving to do with minorities, whatsoever. +

Senator Donahue.

So, in essence -- clubs in my area prohibit women from being members. Their husbands can be and the Widow can be, but tf as a sinçle woman, would go to the eountry club, could not become a member. Would I be able to under your law?

Senator Narovitz.

If -- if the club falls within the purview of ehe law, then you would be able to.

250  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGDLAR SESSIQN SCNATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 Senator Donahue.

Thank you. One more question. Where did We come up with the number four hundred? Why four hundred?

Senator Marovitz.

That's a very good question. It's patterned after a New York law, whieh Was just found conskitutional by the Dnited States Supreme Courk.' And that's -- the number was four hundred in tbe New ïork laWy which was -- the Supreme Court granted certiorari and found it constitutional. So we just patterned after that, knowing that it would: in fact, be constitutional.

Furtber diseussion? Senator Savickas.

Yes, Mr. President. On the question of four hundred: there would be nothing to prohibit you then from lowering it either by amendment, or next year to come in and lower it to two hundred or two-ftfty, because the number is not the thin: that would make it constitutional, or is it?

Senator Marovitz.

It very well miqht. I don't know. I have no plans to come in and amend A11 know is EhaE the four hundred number Was found constitutàonal. I have no plans to come in and amendment.

Senator Savickas.

HoW how many clubs now in the State of Illinois fall under 251  STATE QF ILLIKOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 this four-hundred membership? How many clubs in Illinois?

Senator Marovitz.

I truly don't know.

Senator Savickas. SENATOR SAVICKASI Well, whak are we tryinq to get at? If there are no clubs with over the four hundred -- well: what clubs would be over four hundred that you know of# that welre trying to regulate here?

Senaeor Marovitz.

Wedre not -- this legislation

Senator Saviekas.

Is there a problem of gettinq into some clubs or orqanizations of over four hundred people? And iê there is# vould you please state who they are and What the problem is?

Senator Marovitz.

What I call tell you is that we had a witness come down from Chicago whose name was Mitch Ware, and I belleve he Was *he head of the State Police under Governor Ogilvie, and he teskified to the need of this legislation. This -- this legislation is not geared toward any one place in tbe State of Illinois. I can 't -- I don't know anybody that could kell you how many organizations or clubs are over four hundred. If you'd like to lower the number, I would accept that anendment. I mean, I you know, it's no magic 252  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GEXEZAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22: 1991 number. I Would be happy to aecept an amendment if you want to lower to -- to two hundred. I have no problem with that. Or we can amend it in the House if you -- if you'd like that commitment. 1 bave no problem with that whatsoever. Thls is not geared toward anybody in particular.

Senator Savickas.

Well, I quess my comment would be that ïf there is no problem, nobody knows of any problem and nobody knows that there is a problem. that someone said that there might be a problem in some club that doesnêt ekisk of over four hundred members, I just don't understand then the ne:d for this, since no one has' you know, issued a complaint about this.

Further discussion? Senator DeAnqelis. SENATOR DeANCELIS: Thank youe Mr. President. Because of a conflict, I'm goin: to be voting Present on thise but --

Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: But just for the record, Senator Marovitz, this bill Would apply to two clubs ln Illinois. Yes. Yes. Please, believe me. Now, let me just tell you what -- can I if I'm qoing to vote Present, can I still speak on the bill?

Any time I'm standing here, you can speak. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Okay . We -- we are in the process of resolvinq tbat particular issue. But let me just tell you What could happen as a conseguenee is that if you turn around and single out only two 253  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 clubs in the entire State for this kind of treatment, you migbt very well drive a11 minority forces in thae direction, therefore defeating tbe purpose of Wanting to successfully integrate minority populations into all clubs. 5o, Whereas it might appear to be a good act of public policy and I would concur with this because I am in favor of that kind of open admtssion - but I have to tell you this piece of legislation mi:ht: in fact: be counterproductive to that cause.

Further discussion? Senator Philip.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I have a question of the sponsor.

Sponsor indicates he Will yield, Senator Philip.

Am I to assume this only affects golf courses that have over four hundred membership?

Senator Marovitz.

Tbe bkll does not only affect or only apply to golf clubs. mean, some people are focusing in on golf clubs, but this does not apply only to golf clubs. But if youlre -- if you're asking me about golf elubs specifically, then it only applies to golf clubs With four hundred members or greater. Now, Senator DeAngelis and I - we had a discussion, and kf he -- kf he would kike to lower the number to Whatever he wants, I mean, one hundred, two hundred, Whatever Senator DeAngelis would like, I kill make that agreement that the amendnent will be put on in the House: and the bill w111 be not moved without it.

254  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislatkve Day May 22, 1991 Senator Philip .

What -- what you have just said at -- at any golf club over four hundred. Who else does it include? I mean, what other kind of elubs? I mean -- you knoW, and the interesting question is: what -- Why are We doing this? What -- what is the reason? mean, is there a problem in Illinois? Does anybody I know there was a problem in North Carolina. There must has been a problem in NeW Xork. Do we -- if we don't have a problem in Illinoi4, wh# are we trying to do this? I mean, I don't understand

Senator Marovitz.

Well, I guess it depends on your point of view as to whether you think there's a problem or not. If you think that -- that there aren't clubs in Illinois that discriminate on that basis, then guess you think there aren't a problem. 3ut I think, and we had testimony in committee, from Mitch Ware who is a former law enforcement officer in the Ogilvie administration, and the Deputy Chief of Police in the City of Chicago, that there is a 1ot of discrimination. Nowz if you want to lower the number to prevent that, I'm happy eo do that: Senator Philip, to any number that you like - to any number that you like. And I will make a commitment that we won't move the bill until it's lowered - WEatever number yöu WanE. But I -- bu* I do Ehink that we ouqht to make a very loud statement, instead of verbalizinq itz that we're not goin: to tolerate thks kind of dkscrkmination throughout the State aë Illinois. And if you want to make that statement, this is the way to make it. But if you want to continue the policy of discrimination, well, this is the time to make that Statement also. 255  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

Senator .philip.

Well, let me ask you this. That -- there happens to be a - not in my district - but a golf course that's all men. Now: I'm not sure if theylre over four hundred, quite frankly, and you know, there may be a golf course that's all women for all I know, but -- I mean, we have had no incidents - to my knowledge - of any problem at any kind of a club. I know there Was a problem in North Carolina. There is no problem here. If it isn't broke, why are we trying to fix it? Doesn't make any sense to me at alï.

Further discussion? Senator Barkhausen.

Question of the sponsor.

Sponsor indicates he will yield, Senator Barkhausen.

Sepator Marovitz, is -- is the reason you%re advocating this bill or the rationale for it that these clubs are public accommodations of some kind?

Senator Marovitz.

Under this bill, they Would be public accommodations, and so defined.

Senator Barkhausen.

Was not the rationale for tbe NeW Xork City or State ordinance that it was applying to -- to basically downtown clubs that were used primarily, if not exclusively: for business purposes? And 256 ( STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY SR EE NG AO TL EAR TRS AN ESS CR IO IN PT $ ' 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 isn't there a distinction between those kinds of facilities and maybe some of the clubs that would come under the jurisdiction of thks Actz PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Marovitz. SENATOR MAROVITZ: Yeah, but we have -- we have the exact same thing in this legislation which was added by amendment at the suggestion of the Committee. ''Receives 'payments for dues, fees, use of space, ... directly or indirectly from ... nonmembers for the furtherance of trade or businesse'' So, it's exactly the same as what youfve just described, Senator Barkhausen. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Barkhausen. SENATOR BARKHAUSEN : Would this or would this not apply to clubs that -- that did not allow tbeir facilities to be used for a business purpose or -- or that did not have members that -- whose memberships were reimbursed by their employers? PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Marovitz. SENATOR MAROVITZ: Would you repeat that question? PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Barkhausen. SENATOR BKRKHAUSEN: My -- my question is, does this only apply to clubs whose members might be eligible for reimbursement for their membership by their employers? PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Marovitz. SENATOR MAROVITZ: 257 I I  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 No.

Senator Barkhausen.

Mr. President, to the bill: you know, certainly there is -- there is an unfortunate amount of discrimination that still exists in our soaiety, and I think itfs, you know, practiced by aLL kinds of people and all kinds of qroups. But I I still think it's wise to make a dkstinction between facïlkties that are basically public in nature or those which are essentially used for business purposes, as opposed to those that are used for strictly social purposes. With règard to the latter, I think that we should use moral powers of persuasion of the kind that, say, Tom Watson exercised when he resigned from the Kansas City elub that -- that would not accept a renowned member of the Jewish community in Kansas City. But I certainly question whether, *1th regard to -- purely social facilitiesg We should brkng down the force of lak on these kinds od facilities. And I do not have a conflict, and urge a No vote.

Any further discuàsion? Further discussion? Senator Marovitz: to close.

Well, this legislation is about as straiqhtforward as you can -- as you can get. There -- Senator Philip mentions that -- do we have a problem. There was a three- or four-day series of artieles in the Tribune about dtscrlmlnation in clubs around the State of Illinois. So when we say there isn 't a problem, there Was a series of articles on this -- on this very subject. And I think if we want to make a statement about discrimination in these kknds of clubs, this is the way to make it. If the number is Wrong, 1'11 be happy to use Wbatever number that Senator Philip or 258  STATE 0F ILLINOIS I 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22z 1991 Senator DeAngelis would like to be the number. It's not aimed at any club. It's aimed at the issue of discrimination in these type of clubs. And I think the Legislature ought to make a loud statement that that's not the policy of the State of Illinois, and that's what this bill is all about. Solicit your Aye vote. PRESIDENT ROCK: Question is, shall Senate Bill 284 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted wbo Wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 26 Ayes, 20 Nays: and voting Present. Senate Bill 2-8-4, having failed to receive the required constitutional majority, is declared lost. 330 is.on the Recall List. 382. Senator Barkhausen. Read the bill, Mr. Secretary, please. ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) Senate Bill 382. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Barkhausen. SENATOR BARKHAUSEN: Mr. President and Members, Senate Bill 382 is designed to provide protection to employers who, at the request of an employee or at the request of a prospective employer of an ex-employee, provide information Wikh regard to that employee's work record while Working for the former employery such as the duration of employment and the documented work record of the employee while Working for that former employer. The bill was amended to provide that the employer shall document any information that's provided and that the employer, upon written request of the affected employee or former employeer shall provide a copy of any 259  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 information that's provided to a new prospective employer for -- for this former employee. The bill passed on the Agreed Bill List in commëttee. There may be some questions that have aris en since then, but this was a bill that passed in the Senate here last year. And Ifd be happy to answer your questions.

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tmachine cutoffl.a.Gentleman has moved passage of Senate . .o Bill 382. Discussion? If note the guestion isz shall Senate Bill 382 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed: vote Nay. And the votln: is open. A1l voted Who kish? Have al1 voted wbo wish? Have a1l voted who Wish? Rave al1 voted Who kish? Take the record. 0n that question, there are 40 Ayesg 8 Nays, 3 voting Present. Senate Bill 382, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed.. 3-8-3. Senator Barkhausen. Read the billv Mr. Secretary v please.

ACTING SECRETARX: (MR. HARRY) Senate Bill 383. (Secretary reads title oi billb 3rd Readin: of the billa

Senator Barkhausen.

Mr. President and Members, thls bitl ls similar in intent. It is designed to -- to encourage employees to make every effort to 260  STATE OF ILLINOIS i 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SCNATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leglslative Day May 22, 1991 utilize grievance procedures that are available to them through their employers before resortinq to the courts, where they have a dispute with an employer. The -- there -- it has been amended so that the time required -- or there's a time limit durinq which the ' employee would have to utilize his grievance procedure, whkch would be one year, before resorting to the courts. It also -- I emphasàze, lt exempts all grievances which might be satisfied by means of a Statutory remedyy such as the Illinois Human Riqhes Act or Title VII of the Civil Rights Act or the National Labor Relations Act. It is, like the last bill, deskgned to reduce litigation, while at the same time encouraging employees to -- to utilize the grievance procedures that are available to them. 1, again, urge your support and would be glad to -- to answer your guestions. PRESIDENT ROCKI Al1 right. The Gentleman has moved passage of Senate Bill 383. Discussion? Senatoi Cullerton. SENATOR CULLERTON: Would the sponsor yield? PRESIDENT ROCK: Sponsor indicates he Will yield, Senator Cullerton. SENATOR CULLERTQN: Senator Barkhausen, wouldn't this be more appropriate to be something that would be' subject to collective bargaining -- Whether or not you're going to tell somebody they can't -- when they can and cannot go Eo court? Why wouldn't khis be -- be neqotiated in their - in their unton agreement? PRESIDENT ROCK Senator Barkhausen. SENATOR BARKHAUSEN: Well, it is something, of course, that's already subject to collective barqaining, in the sense that insofar as the union 261  I ! STATE OF ILLINOIS 1 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLV j REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 provides a qrievance procedure - the collective bargaining agreement does - that's what would be resorted to under the terms of this bill, before the employee goes to court. And I think that's something that's already required under the terms af the National Labor Relations Act, Which has been interpreted in various court decisions to requite use of a grievance procedure before suit for unfair labor practice under the Nationak Labor Relations Act.

Senator Cullerton.

Well, I just think that whenever we -- we pass a bill that tells people they -- they -- when they canlt utilize the court system, that We should be -- be very wary. I think that if the unions want to negotiate something with their employers where they say, 'lListen, you, you can't qo to court unless you exhaust your remediesy'' and they aqree to that, that's fine. But this -- this bill says that -- tells somebody when they cannot go to court. For that reason, I think I should oppose it.

Further discussion? Senator Rea.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. I rise in opposition to this bill. I think there's some things that certainly needs to be pointed out, along with what Senator Cullerkon has already said, because this bill denies the individuals the right to seek court relief for work-related disputes or grievances. It's also -- the court relief is very expensive, and it -- it bears a great amount of risk. And of course, employers would -- would be able to delay relief for a long period of time - for one year - and be assured that no action should be taken against them , and even if the employment 262  j STATZ 0P ILLINOIS 87th GESERAL AssExBt,y . i REG UjAR ssXwV ssA SU Es SC Sj0 zN pv 1 31st Legislative Day May 22 , 199z conditions were intolerable at the time. So I think that one of the things that you need to -- you need to look at this v ery seriously. It's a -- it's a bad piece of legislation, and I certainly would encourage a No vote. PRESIDENT ROCK: Further discussion? Senator Hawkinson. SENATOR HAWKINSON: Thank your Mr. President. Witl the sponsor ykeld for a question? PRESIDENT ROCK: Sponsor indicateà he will yieldz Senator Hawkinson. ' SENATOR HAWKINSON: ë ' Senator Barkhausen, does this preclude anybody from -- from utilizing the courts or filinq suit? Or does it only say that they must utilize the existing grievanee procedure before they file suit? PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Barkhausen. ' SENATOR BARKHAUSEN: The latter. PRESIDENT ROCK : Further discussion? Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACOBSI Thank you: Mr. President. A question of the sponsor. PRESIDENT ROCK: Indkcakes he will yield, Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACOBS: As the bill states, it states that nothinq happens until the qrievance procedure has been exhausted. What happens if you don't have a qrievance procedure? PRESIDENT ROCK : ' Senator Barkhausen. 263 l  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22y 1991

Xou can go straight to court.

Senator Jacobs.

Are we not then qetting a mixed signal here? On one hand, We're letting them go straight to court. But on the other hand, we're saying, ''Vou 9ot to go through the grievance procedure'' -- which I understand. And I can appreciate the thouqht, but I think we're setting two different standards here. And for thae reason, I would have to oppose the bill. PRESIDENT R0CR: Kny further discusskon? Further discusskon? Senatoz Barkhausen, you Wish to close?

Just in closing, Mr. President, to note that I didn't, in explaining the bill, that this identical legislation had a 56 to nothing favorable vote here last year and narrowly got tied up in the House Labor Committee. I urge same support we gave this legislation last year.

The question is, shall Senate Bill 383 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, voee Nay. And the voting is open. Have al1 voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. Gn Ehat question, there are 26 Ayes, 28 Nays, none votinq Present. Senate Bil1 383. having failêd to receive the requàred constitutional majority, is declared lost. Senator Friedland. 3-8-9. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please. SECRETARV HAWRER ) Senate Bill 3-8-9. (Secretary reads title of bill) 264  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 3rd Readinq of the bill. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Friedland. SENATOR PRIEDLAND: Thank you very much, Mr. President, Ladtes and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senate 9il1 389 deals with -- in 1979 the Assembl y established a Mobile Home Landlord Tenant Rights Act. This Act established a framework that stabilized the relationship between the mobile home owners and the mobile home park owners. Now one of the key provisions of that Act was a Section that precluded a landlord from increasing the rent at the expiration of a lease, except by way of a formula expressly described in the lease. This was designed to protect tenants from unforeseen and arbitrary rent increases. In 1989 House Amendment 5 to then Senate Bill 1376 removed this important provision. This legislation would replace this. And it's requested by many of my constituents: especially those who reside in Willow Lakes Estates - a seniors-only mobile bome park, contatning six hundred and sixteen mobile homes and over eleven hundred voters. It had a rair hearing in Judiciary Committee. It passed 8 to 2. I put an amendment on that ehe Committee requested on the Eloor. And it's endorsed strongly by the AARP. And I'd be happy to respond to questions, and urge your favorable consideration.

Gentleman has moved passage of Senate Bill 3:9. Diseussion? Genator Deàngeliq. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Yeah. Thank you, Mr. President . Because of the heavy and extensive legislative agenda the curtent sponsor ks catrying , kould you mind taking this out of the record?

We should hold this one till Friday at one o'clock. Thatfll 265 I STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22g 1991 keep 'em here, huh? Further discussion? If not, the question is, shall Senate Bill 389 pass. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 48 Ayes, 1 Nay, none voting Present. Senate Bill 389, having received the required constitutional majorityy is declared passed. Senator Friedland has noW passed his entire package. 390. Senator Weaver. Read the bill, please, Madam Secretary. SECRETARX HAWKER: Senate Bi11 390. (Seeretary reads title of billj 3rd Reading of the bill. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Weaver. SENATOR WEAVER: Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Senate Bill 390 provides that no public library district may be organized to include territory within one and a half miles of the corporate limits of a municipality that currently maintains a local tax-supported library, except with the consent of the corporate authorities of that municipality. Try to answer any questions. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Weaver has moved passaqe of Senate Bill 390. Discussion? Senator Demuzio. SENATOR DEMUZIO: Well, thank you, Mr. President. Senator Weaver, was just handed a note that said 'that in committee, that the Library Association had opposed this bill, and the bill Was held on a tie vote at the first meeting, and the next meeting, it got out of committee by one vote, on the eonditkon that they would try to work out an agreement with the Library Association. My question, 266  STATE OE ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legkslative Day May 22, 1991 guess, would be, has an agreement been korked out with the Library Association?

Senator Weaver.

Thank you. Senator Demuzio, we met with the Library Association. They came in with an amendment that practically rewrote the whole Library Act. And before I Would bring that amendment to the Floor, I'd rather send it back to committee to -- to look at it. But I Will send that amendment over to the House with the bill, if it passes the Senate, and they can consider in committee over there. But, it was a rather -- an extensive amendment that they sought to solve many àore problems than exist. And I'm not that knowledgeable about library districts throughout the State, so I didn't try to put the amendment on here in the Senate.

Purther discussion? If not, *he question is, shall Senate Bill 390 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. And the votinq's open. Al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 52 Ayes: 1 Nay, 5 voting Present. Senate Bill 390, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. 393. Senator Dudycz. 399. Senator Newhouse. A11 right. Ladies and Gentlemen, it's approaching 5:15. I have -- ehe Secretary informs the Chalr that *he llse of recalls has been distributed. There are twenty-iive or so amendments on twenty-one or twenty-two bills. My suggestion is, with leave of the Body, we go to that order. And then, I am told, that there are a couple of amendments for Senate Bills on 2nd Reading that have just arrived from the Reference Bureauy that we Would -- the Members would like to have the opportunlty to address. So we will do the Recall 267  GTATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRAHSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22' 1991 List, and I Will go to 2nd Reading for the purpose of entertaining Members who have a -- an amendment that's just been delivered. I would beg your indulgence and ask you -- we'll try to get out of here, again, by six o'clock. But We have twenty-five amendments or so to go through here, so let's -- try to stay with us . A1l right. If I ran direct your attention. Allow me to direct your attention to Page 11 on the Calendar. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is found Senate Bill l0. Senator Berman seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes 'of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On tbe Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 10, Madam secretary.:

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Berman.

Senator Berman, on Amendment No. 2

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of khe Senate. Senatp Bill 10 and Senate Bill 11 deal with Chicago School Reform. Senate Bill 10 addresses the question of one person/one vote that was ruled unconstitutional by the Illinois Supreme Court last November. Amendment No. 2 is in response to a consensus of the Education Committee, where we felt that it would be better for ongoing discussions if, instead of just passing out a shell bill, that a bill that has been brought to khe attenti/n of the committee was, in fact, incorporated into this legislation. I Want to underline that this amendment does not necessarily represent a -- any concept that is chiseled in granite. We Want to put this out. We want the -- further discussion to be held, and hopefully: that al1 of the interested parties could reach a consensus. What this amendment does ks adopts the -- what ks called the three-vote model. It allows parents and community 268 I 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS j 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 people to vote for the parent and community nominees throuqh the use of a noncumulatkve three-vote process. The teachers under this amendment would be nominated by the staff of the school, as they had prevkously been, and the school board would have the option of reviewing the nominations by the staff, and the school board would nominate the teacher members of the local school councils. I'd be glad to respond to any questions? and move the adoption of Amendment No. 2. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Is there any discussion? Senator Karpiel. I'm sorry. SENATOR KARPIEL; Thank you, Mr. President. Pirst of all, can I make sure wedre talking about the right amendment? Does this one end GRV, because there was an incorrect one first filed? GRV, the last letters on the LRB number. Okay. Well, first of all, Mr. President and Members af the Senate, I Want to say that Senator Berman and I and other Members of the committee did decide that We Would put. this bill out, even though it is not in perfect form, and IIm sure a lot more work ts going to be done on the community level still working on an agreement. However, I did believe that, in our meeting, we decided to put on the model that was approved by and signed off by the Urban Lèague and the African-American Education Reform Institute and also S.O.N./S.O.C. This bill does differ from their recommendation. This bill says that -- or this amendment says that the parents and the community residents Will be eligible to casE their three votes for any parene or community resident. However, tbe teacher members of the council will not be elected. They will be voted on by only the teachers and the -- the staff employed at the attendance center. They dll be voted on -- they will vote for two members to be the teacher representatkves: but it will only be an advisory vote: and the actual -- instead of electing these two menbers, they will 269 ! !  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY RECDLAR SESSION SENATE TRAHSCRIPT 31st Legtslative Day May 22# 1991 actually be appointed by the Chicago Board of Edueation. I think the Chicago Board of Education has gotten us into some traubles already. And: very frankly, the teachers themselves , understand, do not Want this. They want to be elected like everyone else. There was a letter in the Chicaqo Tribune Tuesday, and was signed by tbe Teachers' Task Porce Citywide Coalition for School Reform, that says that this decision to have the two teacher members appointed by the Chicago Board of Education, was ratified, or was suggested, by the leadership of the Chicago Teachersf Union. And there is strong oppositkon by the rank and file of membership of the -- of the Teachers' Union. It goes on to say that the Teachers' Task Force Citywide Coalition for School Reform , Alliance for Better Chicago Schoolsy Parents United for Reasonable -- Responsible Education: and other reform groups, support the position that teacher representatives should be elected in the same way as community and parent representatives. They feel very strongly that being appointed would undermine the whole process. I see no one's too very interested in this, but I think it's certainly a departure from khat the Drban League, the African-American Education Group and S.O.N./S.O.C. recommended. And I would stand in opposition to this amendment.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SBNATOR J.J. JOXCE) Further discussion? Senator Jones.

Yes. Wil1 the sponsor yield?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Indicates he Will yield.

Senator aerman, I know we did have a meeting: and -- and I had asked staff for this amendment. just received kt. But after reviewlnq the amendment, there are thinqs incorporated in here that we did not even discuss or aqree to. Onder the three-vote 270  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 model concept, that Whole process is changed in this amehdment. And, you know, don't Want to be votinq for this like this. I Would like, if possible, that you take this out of the record and and put the amendment on that Was agreed to, 'cause you have things incorporated in here that were not agreed to in the meeting that we sat down and discussed.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Any further discussion? Senator del Valle. Did Senator Berman. I'm sorry.

Let me -- Senator Jones.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Jones.

Senator Jones, the amendment that ks presented to you -- so that you remember the discussion yesterday morning. We had discussed Whether we should pass out a vehicle that encourages continued discussion or whether there would be an amendment that addresses the three-vote model. This amendment addresses the three-vote model, with teachers being elected or -- nominated by the staff at the school. That's What you have here. If you don't like that, vote against it. That's my suggestion as to a basis for continuing discussions.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Jones.

Well, I -- agree. I sat in on that meettnq, and this was not part of the agreement. I would suggest very strongly to you that you either take this out of the record, and perhaps try to put the amendment on on the issues that we discussed. The three-vote model concept included teachers equally as Well. There was nothin: concerning about the appointment or advisory 271  STATE OP ILLINOIS 1 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY . Rscucaa ssssloN SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 commkttee. %e never dtscussed -- and this is drawn up altogether different. I have seen a copy of this. I asked the staff person to see this amendment earlier. I just got this amendment, 'cause I would have discussed this issue With you before we got to this point. But it was not given to me, and the other Members on this side, until just now. And I -- I -- what I urge you to do is just take it out of the record, or we vote the amendment down. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Berman. ' SENATOR BERMAN: Well, my problem is one of timing . I've tried to accommadate the Members of the committeé. This is khe recall on a date on which -- if we don't address recalls today, I don't know whether we're going to address recalls tomorrow, because that will depend upon whether Wefre here on Friday. Nok, that's my dilemma, and I want to move a bill. Now, we can move it any way you want. If there is a -- I think there's another amendment that has been filed. Vote this one down. Vote the other one up, and we'll move the bill out tomorrow. That's your alternative. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Al1 right. Further discussion? Senator del Valle. SENATOR dEL VALLE: ' Thank you, Mr. President. Senator Berman, I would suggest that we withdraw this amendment, and that we not act on any other amendments, and pass this bill out of the Senate as a vehicle bill, because. obvlously, there is confusion, and obviously, what wefre lookinq at riqht now is not what we aqreed to in committee . I did not see the final proposal of the qroups mentioned . But I am told by those who did see the final proposal that this amendment does not reflect What was in those proposals. And so I Would recommend that We move the bill out as a shell bill over to the House and take the time We need in order to come up with an 272 ' $ I 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRTPT 3lse Legislative Day May 22# 1991 agreed.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Senator Berman. SENATOR BERMAN) Senator de1 Valle and Senator Jones and others , let me sugqest. There is another amendment filed. Will be glad to withdraw this amendment if Senator Karpiel, who has filed this next amendment, withdraws that, and wetll -- wetll pass out a shell bill. That was my suggestion before the meeting yesterday morning. If you want to do that, that's fine with me. Senator Karpiel, wi11 you wkthdraw your aeendment? PRESIDING OPFICER: : (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Karpiel.

Well, Senator, I Would prefer to pass this bill out With some substantive languave on as we decidedy or we discussed, in our meetinq yesterday, because I feel that just sending it over to the House as a pure vehicle shows that We really have not reached any kind of consensus - that there is no plan out there, when, in fact, there is a plan out there. Now it might not be the perfect plan, and of course they'll the groups Will still be meeting, but we do have a plan that the Urban League has eigned off on - in fact, it was really their recommendation and the -- and S.O.N./S.O.C. has signed off on. And so I think it would be a good idea to pass it out in that form and then 1et the qroups continue meetinq. and perhaps we 'll chanqe it substantially or perhaps we'll leave it as it isy but at least it Will show that we're Qoing something - and not leave it just kn limbo, so to speak. So I Would not want to withdraw my amendment. My amendment is an amendment which reflects the Urban League proposat.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR JOYCE) 273  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIFT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 Senator Berman.

Question of the Chair. If we -- if we remove Senate Bill from consideration todayy may we have it on recall tomorrow and pass it on 3rd Reading tomorrow?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Yes. With intervening business, we could do that.

A1l right. With that leave, I'd ask that Senate Bill 10 be removed from the record. PRESIDING OFFICER: ' ISENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Take it from the record. A1l right. Senator Berman asks leave to return Senate Bill 11 to the Order of 2nd Reading jor the purpose of amendments. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. Madam Secretary.

hmendment No. 2 offered by Senator de1 Valle.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator de1 Valle. SENATOR dEL VALLE: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This amendment was agreed to in the meeting that was held. It requires each local school council of a school which provides bilingual education to create a Bilingual Advisory Committee as a standing committee. I move the adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OFPICEZ: (EENATOR J.J. JOVCE) Senator de1 Valle moves the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bïl1 ll. Is there any discussion? If not, al1 those in favor, say Aye. Al1 those opposed, say Nay. Amendment No . - - the Ayes have it. Aàendment No. to Senate Bk1l 11 ks adopted. Any further amendmenEs?

274  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEXBLY REGULAR SESSTON SCNATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Jones.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Jones.

Yeah, leave to withdrxw Amendment No. 3.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Leave is granted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Karpiel.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Karpiel.

Thank you, Mr. President. This amendment does somethinq that has -- many people feel -- has long been needed in the Chicago school system. It gives the principals control of their school. It gives them control of all personnel assigned to the school. At the present time, principals in the City of Chicago - and by the way, only in the City of Chicago can supervise only the educational operations? and now, with the new Chicaqo school reform, they are, by Statute, responsible for the development and implementation of a school improvement program which, as We have seen from numerous news articles, can also include the physical plant. So we're really putting them in a trick bag. This amendment says that the engineer in charge and the food service manager shall continue to be responsible for the orientation, training and direction of the enqineersg school malntenance assistants, custodian Workers, et cetera, but that they shall be accountable to and under the supervision and ultimate direction of the principal. The right to employ, 1et people, you know, :o , that type of thing, is not beinq chanqed by this amendment, and it does not violate any collective bargaining agreements. And I ask for an Aye vote. 275  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22y 1991

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator 'Karpiel moves for the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill Is there any discussion? If not, a1l those in favor, say Aye. All those -- oh# excuse me. Senator Berman. Excuse me. SENATOR BERMANJ Thank you, Mr. President. I think there is some debate on this. The Senate Commiktee on Elementary and Secondary Education held a hearing in April on the subject matter of Chicago school reform. And testimony was taken from both the from both a principal of a west side school who advocated this position that Senator Karpiel is presenting, and also there was testimony from Mr. Mccue of the operating engineers' union. Mr. Mccue 's testimony was that there is ongolng discussions between the operating engineers, the Chicago Board of Education, Superintendent Kimbrouqh and the princkpalsl to try to address this. I think that for us to act on this issue today is premature. Would point out and refresh everyone's recollection that the language that's in the Chicago School Reform Act today is lanquage that was negotiated between the principals and the operating engineers in the Speaker's Office two years ago. Now, I'm not -- I'm not standing here and sayin: that every school is operatin: as ideally as we would like it, as relates to the relationship between the principals and tbe operating engineers or the food service workers, but most schools that have good principals and responsive enqineers and food workers are dolng just fine. And 1, personally, am not ready on this date maybe before June 30th I miqht be - but on this date, I'm not ready to impose a -- a legislative mandate on language that Was negotiated between the parttes that are directly involved. And for that reason, I stand in opposition to this amendment today.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) 276  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Further discussion? Senator Cullerton. Further discussion , then? Senator Newhouse.

Thank you, Mr. President. I wonder if some of the previous speakers Would respond to a question? Am I to understand that at present We are talking about the principal actually runnin: the school, rather than the engineer? Is that what welre talking about?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senaeor Karpiel.

Yes, Senator Newhouse, Ehat%s what welre talking about.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Senator Newhouse.

Miracle of miracles! Am I understanding that there is some objection to that? Let me ask the Body a question. Is there anywhere else in the civilized korld that we send ehildren to school where the chief executive officer does not run the joint, where the chief executive officer has to go on bended knee and ask someone Who purportedly works under :im to open the doors? Is there any otber system in the civilized world where the people who teach our youngsters make less than the :uy who sweeps the floor? Not that that's not an honorable profession, but is there any other system in the civilized World that's run like that? If there is, a thlrd questlon: What in the world do we think these children see when they see this every day and we tell them that they ought to go to school to :et an education? I thknk the answer is obvious; that if that is the situation, then education is useless to them. And I think that we can account for much of the record of our youngsters leaving those institutions and going into lnseitueions where they can really learn how to make some 277  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 moneyy and that's on the streets. I Would sugqest to my fellow legislators that we need to make every effort to turn these institutions to the people that We charge with the responsibility and then undercut them by settinq up a system where they cannot act as executives, where the teachers do not have the incentive that they ouqht to have and the assurance that they are telling those youngsters they are supposed to teach, something about the real World. Wedre setting up a system instead that is teaching our youngsters that they cannot participate in the real economy, and that they must turn to an alternative, and that that alternative is anti-productive. And if our taxpayers Want to know Why their bills are ioing up,we are looking at a principal cost in a system that is not just ineffectkve, but simply cannot work. It hasn't worked in the last thirty years. And We keep coming back here talkinq about palliatkves. What we need to do is pull the string. Now, that's not going to make a lot of people happy. As a member of a union -- as a member of a union, I'm sick and tired of unions taking the collar for this. It isn't unions; it's some individuals who have set up a system that is very productive for them personally, very productive for a small number of peoplep and disastrous for the City of Chicago. When are We going to face up to that? That's the issue. Xear atter year after year We have watched the scholastic achievement of our children go down. And they come down here to Springfield and ask for more and mare money for failure. That's nuts. I know people in my district who are gending their chlldren Eo prlvaee insEikutlons who cannot afford it, who cannot afford it at all, who are making tremendous sacrifices because they understand if they don't sacrifice on this end, their children will pay for the sacrifice that we have made of them on the other end. Okay - long speeches ears go dead people are beaten to death. The facts of life are these: Principals don't run the schools; principals can 't run the 278 I STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22f 1991 schools. The teaehers, the most important kndividuals in the school system, make less money than people who have nothing like the same kind of qualifications, have not met the same standards for educationy have no incentive to do so, nor do our children. Come on. I1m losing my children. I am losinq my children hand over hand, and it hurts. It hurts. Itfs painful. But it also burts those of you who do not have that same interest, because your tax bills are goinq up. They're qoing up because these youngsters are not in the real economy. They 're goinq up because these youngsters are in aaother econon# that costs money: in security, àn jail costs, in courts you name it. Every year we come down and vote more and more money for a11 those services Which we ought not need. That's the issue, folks, and that's the dynamic. I don't know if there's any interest in doinq tbis. don't know if khere's any interest. I don't know if the interest deteriorates because basically we're talkin: a city problem and basically an inner-city problem. We're talkinq aboue people who can protect themselves the very least. Well, that ought to be focus. That ought to be the focus of What wefre doing here. I've been instructed to bring it to a close, and I do. I don't think there's any mistake -- any mistake about khere I stand. I don't think there's any mistake about where I think we ought to go. We need to make that system tespond, and the fkrst way to do it is cut off the dollars and put them Where they belong. They belong in the pockets of the teachers, tbey belong in the pockets of the princàpals, with the authority to run the instituEion. And in the absence of that, We ouqht not give that board one more nickel not one. PRESIDING OFPICERI (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Thank you. Purther discussion? Senator Alexander. SZNATOR ALEXANDER: Thank you, Mr. President. I stand in support of this 279  i STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislatkve Day May 22: 1991 amendment. Por the last number of years, your own colleague, Who nog ks a state officiat, the Honorable Dawn Clark Netsch, carried this bill tn this august Body. I carried it when I vas in the House to make the principal be kn charge of the entire school personnel. Many of you Who know the history behind this legkslatkon should give us a vote passing this amendment. The time for the principal to be in charge has far come. The idea of the school engineering - engineering body - telling the principal What to do and What they cannot do - when they are there to teach our children - has got to stop. I'm asking all of my colleagues to vpte and support this amendment. It is an amendment that is sorely needed for the City of Chicago schools.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Purther discussion? Senator Jones.

ïeah, thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. The Chairman of our Education Committee pointed out What had been agreed to in the Speaker's Office as relate to this particular issue. And thts ks lot the fkrst tkme this issue has been before this Body. And those who talk about school reform and talking about gkving the prihcipal a11 the authority and responsibility in doinq the job, didn't give that principal the authority ko -- if the classroom is cold and you feel a cold classroom is conducive to -c to learning for young children: then you would support this amendmenk. If the food is cold from the lunchroom and the principal has no authority to tell the manager to do their jobe then what are we -- what the heck are we talking about? Throuqhout the State of Illinois and particularly sehools downstate, you always holler how great your schools arez but the prineipal is in control. And I knoW -- I understand the operating engineers. They are opposed to being supervised by the principal. But we want the job done. If we're qoing to place the 280 i I  i STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 responsibylity on the shoulders of a person, give him the authority to do the job. That's what this amendment does. And I'm glad to see the Members on the other stde of the aisle fknakly see the light. Because this amendment kas here when Senaeor Dawn Netsch had it, and you al1 voted it down for some political reasons. But we are talking about the education of younq children. We Want them to have equal opportunities - a11 chkldren throughout the Skate of Illinois. But this restrictlon is only kn the City of Chicaqo. And those legislators who represent the City, I urge you to get behind this amendment. The amendment does not qo far enouqh. They should have not only the power to tell them what to do, but'they should also have the power to discipline the engineer, the food service staff, so that we can have a quality education in the Chàcaqo public school system. I dondt know What the debate is about, and I urqe an Aye vote on ehis amendment. PRESIDING OPFICER: ' ISENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Further discussion? Senator Pawell.

Thank you very much. Senator Jones, I cosponsored that bill everytkme it came up. Senator Berman, I served on the Education Committee for ten years and for ten yeazs we had prïncïpals coming down and asking time and time and time aqain to allow them to have the bill -- the building. So, how in the world you can say just one came down is beybnd mè. I think this is a qood amendment. I ask for the grevious question, and I ask for an Aye vote.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Further discussion? Senator Dudycz.

Thank you, Mr. President. You know, I'm trying to understand what we're dokng here. I have a question of -- of Senator Karpiel With -- 281 )  1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY SREGULAR SESSION ENATE TRANSCRIPT i 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) She indicates shedll yield. SENATOR DUDYCZ: Senator, you know, I'm trying to read this amendment, and according to my understandinq of it, the cooks, the engineers, the lunchroom attendants, khe porters, they will al1 be under the control of the principal. Is that correck? Everybody? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator garpiel. SENATOR KARPIEL: Yes, Senator. SENATOR DUDYCZ: So -- so then, Senator, will that principal be able to tell the cook what they are to cook, how they are to cook, at what temperature they are to cook? Are they to tell the janitors how they are to do their jobs, how-- when they are supposed to lock the doors, how they are supposed to keep the Windows open? Will they have that authority to really get into specifics? In a dispute between the operating engineer aad t*e principal, %k11 the principal be able to go over the operating -- the supervising engineer's head and say to his maintenance Workers and porters, ''Don 't listen to what he says. Do it, because I'm the boss. %ou got to do -- not just do what I say, but do it the way I say ita'' PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator garpiel. SENATOR KARPIEL: First of al1 to answer you: Senator Dudycz, the actual legislation says that the food servkce manager shall be responsible for the orientation: training and directkon of cooks, bakers, porters and lunchroom attendants who may receive their initial orders from the food service manaqer. but who nevertheless shall be accounEable to and under the supervision and ultimate ! 282 t  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 direction of the principal. Senator, 1et me say that in every other school distriet in the State of Illinois, this is law. And, believe it or not, I have never heard - of a1l the problems our school districts have - I never have heard that there has been a problem with the principal telling the cook what soup to make on what day.

PRESIDIHG OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Dudycz.

You know, you read itz and it still tells me that the -- khat principal will have the authority and can, and in many cases willy tell that cook, tell:that janitor how to do their job, and I think that if we pass that's exactly the conflict that we Will be facing, and we'11 be coming back here trying to amend this.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Further discussion? Senator Savickas.

If the sponsor would yield.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Indicates she'll yield.

I understand from the previous speakers and you're noddin: aqreement with their positions, so I quess the bottom line would be that once the principals take full control of the schools over, I guess, our food servers and the janitors and engineers, that then our children Will be able to read and write and leave these sehools with a proper education. Is this -- is this the întent of this bill, so that our children Will learn hoW to read and Write?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Karpiel.

The intent of the bill ks ta stop some of the abuses and the 283  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87*h GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 horrors that have been gokng on kn some of the ckty schools. Testimony was given in committee by one of the principaks that childten are trying to learn - in his school this is in unlvghted classrooms, where the temperatures were sometimes fifty degrees or over a hundred. They went to smelly washrooms with no runninq water, soap, towels or toilet paper. They got their food from a kitchen that could not pass Department of Health standards. Their trays and silverware kere washed in a hundred degree water instead of a hundred and nknety required. Rats and roaches infested the buildings. He says he is not exaggerating, and as principal of that buildkng, he could do notbing about àt. Xes, Senator Savickas, I think that this amendment Witl help the children learn, if they can be in a school that is clean.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SCNATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Savickas.

Well, obviously for the last twenty years, the product of our schools have obviously been through this. They haven't come out reading and writinq. So we have been lax, then, for twenty years; that now the principatsy if they eontrol their schools, our -- we w1ll not have to worry about remedial reading and writing. They will graduate from our schools learning how to read and Write. This Was our problem these past twenty years. Is this What you're tellinq me? PRESI9ING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Karpiel.

Part of the problem, yes, sir.

PRESIDING GFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) A11 right. Senator Rock.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the 284  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22y 1991 Senate. I rise in opposition to this amendment, and I would suggest that this is an issue that we have visited before and came down, in my judgment, on the correct side. Because the fact of the matter is we are dealin: with a system that is subject to collective bargaining and collective bargaininq agreements.And there are certain restrictions placed, by virtue of negotiated agreements, with respect to virtually a11 the players in the system - the dkstrict superkntendent and the general superintendent, the Eeachers' union. Does the principal have the right to fire .a teacher today? Well, ''should'' is one thing. Fact is -- my understanding is that they do not. The job of the prknckpal ks the ptogrammatkc job. It's the education of the kids. And wedve argued this at some length. And from time to time around here, we are confronted with the argument that we, who are ostensibly and notably pro-labor, attempt to enforce provkskons oz benefkts or somethkng that ought to be subject to collective bargaininq. Now We're seeing it in reverse. Now Wedre seeing, apparently, management saying: '' We1l, wait a minute. We can't bargain about this, so wedre qoing to impose it by law. '' It just seems to ne that we have been talking about and arquing about and are currently working with and through Chicago school reform for the past two years at least, probably four years. This is not a new subject, but it's one Ehat this Assembly has dealt with on three or four or Ekve occasions. And I'm not sure why We keep bringinq it up. My sugqestion is that we defeat Amendment No. 3. The bills kill -- *he Chlcago school reform reform is qoinq to eontlnue and allow the people to talke allow the qroups to talk, allov them to keep negottating. I think We have made tremendous strides forward. This I consider ko be a reqressive move, and I urge opposition to Amendment No. 3.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Purther discusskon? Senator Karpiel, to close. 285 I  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSZMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

Well: thank you, Mr. President. I'm really surprised to hear that. Senator Rock, in Oak Park and in everyplace else in the State they have this provision. It is not regressive. And when youdre talking about collective bargaining agreements, seems a feW bills a:o I was the one standing up saying things should be left to collective bargaining agreements, and I believe in them. And welre not taking them away under this amendment. The right to employ, discipline, discharge and lay off for cause shall be vested solely .with the Bo:rd of Education. But the operating engineers' union shall have the right in case of discùarqe, discipline or layoff, to avail themselves of existing aivil service laws and contractual agreements with the Board of Education. That has not been changed in the bill. Very frankly, I'd like to see it changed: but We're not going that far. Al1 We're sayinq is that the principal of a school should be able to run his school. We all know there are abuses. We a1l knoW there are several layers of bureaucracy Which has been one of the problems we've been tryin: to fight With Chicago school reform for years, as you said. strongly urge an Aye vote for this amendment, and I ask for a roll call vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Senator Karpiel moves'for the adoption of Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill ll. All khöse votin: in favor, vote Aye. All those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted Who wish? Have all voted Who Wish? Have al1 voted Who kish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that, there are 28 Ayes, 20 Nays: none vo*ing Present. Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 11 is adopted. 3rd ReadinM. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) 286  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22y 1991 3rd Reading. NoW if I could refer you to Page 11. Senate Bill 130. Senator Woodyard. Senator Woodyard asks leave to return to Senate Bill 130 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of amendment. ls leave granted? Leave is qranted. Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. l offered by Senator Woodyard.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Woodyard.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. The amendments - or the amendmeàt - on botb of these bills - 130 and 132 - are very similar. Senate Bill 130 deals with group day care homes. The amendment is the result of four hours of meetings betkeen the day care home providers and the Department of Child Family Services yesterday. An agreexent was reached between the agency and the providers. And so this amendment is a result of that. We Would still be increasing the number of children that a that a group day care home could have, but it deletes a11 of the age qrouping under those numbers. And it's my understanding that the agreement reached yesterday between those two parties Would allow the Department to . promulgate rules, which the providers aqreed to -- to take care of -- of that a:e grouping. And so I would urge adoption of the amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Koodyard moves Ehe adop*ion of Amendmen: No. to Senate Bill 130. Is there any discussion? Senator Holmberq.

Xes. Senator Woodyard, I'm curkous. Xou sakd there is an agreement reached, but that the numbers would still increase. I -- IIm always concerned when the number of children increase per person in charqe. Do you have the figures on that? 287  : i STATE 0P ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legkslative Day May 22, 1991

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senakor Woodyard.

No, I don't. And that's what would be -- and I'm not -- I don 't have the information on what those rules Would be. And due to a time constraint yesterday and this morning: I have no idea what those were. If -- in -- in the bill, as we introduced it, we had up to sixteen children in a qroup day care home, and it said four may be under fifteen months, two may be under - be between fifteen and twenty-nine months, six from thirty months to six years. A1l of that language has been removed by this amendment. : And that the age groupinqs will be promulgated by rule, it,s my understanding. But, yes, it does - as the original bill -- tbe tWo bills were originally introduced - it does allow for an additional four children to be taken care of in a day care home.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SCNATOR J.J. JOYCE) Further discussion? Senator Marovitz.

Forgive me if this was just mentioned, but I'm only talking about the youngest children. Is that under fifteen months? Is that the -- the designation - or eighteen months?

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Senator Woodyard.

That language has al1 been removed by this amendment. That's Where a 1ot of objection eame ko *he oriqinal bill, and 1: even myself. thought, ''Who on earth would Want to take care of four kids under fifteen months?'' And it's my understanding that the Department and the providers also agree wàth that.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOVCE) Further discussion? Senator Alexander.

288  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22: 1991 Thank you: Mr. President. To the Senator: Am I to understand that the objection raised by the Department of Family and Children Services is no longer there? That they -- that -- that the Department now has agreed with this amendment to accept the matter as it is?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Woodyard.

Yes.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Alexander.

May I ask one other question? Analysis says tbat çne - a singular - care person could care for twelve children. Is that still in the bill? 'Cause it's hard to care for one nowadays, lest knovn twelve.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCC) Senator Woodyard.

No. Itls my understahdkng that is not in the amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Senator Alexander.

Thank you. I did no* hear the Senatorls answer. I think he may have answered, but I didn't hear it.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Senator Woodyard.

In answer to your question - no, that's not in the amendment. We've deleted all of that language below. This only deals With the fact that we raised the number of children that can be in a day care home by four children. The Department then Will 289 j ' STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GBNERAL ASSEMBLY REGOLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 promulgate the rules on What those age groups and assistants Will be. And -- and the provkders agree With that. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Further discussion? Senator Alexander. SENATOR ALEXANDER: Thank youy 'cause my concern is the safety of the children rather than anything else that may need to be you can increase as much as long as they have the proper care persons there ko need to their needs. Thank you. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Any further discussion? Senator Woodyard, to close. SENATOR WOODYARD: Well, I think you a11 understand khat this is. As I say, it is an agreement between the Department, who had objections with the bill in its present form, and wlth the provkders and the -- and the agency both agreeing on -- on this amendment. I would like to proceed with itr and -- and the Department will be promulgating rules, and very definitely. Don't think the Department doesn't have the kids' safety uppermost in minds, and that wkll be taken care of by the rules process. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SSNATOR J.J. JOYCE) A11 riqht. Senator Woodyard moves the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 130. A1l those in favor, séy Aye. A11 those opposed, say No. In the opinion of the Chair, the Ayes have it. Amendment No. l to Senate Bill l30 is adopted. 3rd Reading. Senator Woodyard. Senate Bill 132. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWRER: Amendment No. l offered by Senator Woodyard. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOVCE) Senator #oodyar'd. SENATOR WOODYARD: 290  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Thank you, Mr. President: Members of the Senate. This 1 I amendment does a very similar thin: to -- that -- to the previous amendment, only it deals with the day care home, not the qroup day care home. It -- it raises the number of children by fourz but it deletes that language dealing with the a:e groupings. And the Department again will be promulgating rules on that a:e grouping and the safety and licensure procedures.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOVCE) Any discussion? If not, Senator Woodyard moves the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 132. A11 those in favor, say Aye. A1l those opposed, say Nay. Opinion of the Chair, the -- Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill l32 is adopted in the ... Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 160. Senator Cullerton. Senator Cullerton asks leave to return to -- return Senate Bill l60 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of amendments. Leave granted? Leave is granted. Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Cullerton.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOVCE) Senator Cullerton.

Xes. Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. President, because I sit next to you, I learned that the Farm Bureau was opposed to this bill. Until I would adopt this amendment, khich basically says that the Farmland Exemption Law - whatever that is - shall remain the same for Dupage County, even if this bill passes. So I -- I would move for ihe adoption of the bill to remove their opposition to the law. l i 29l  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOXCE) Al1 right. Senator Cullerton moves the adoption of is khere further -- okay. Discussion? Senator Fawell.

Mr. President, I don't believe I've seen this amendment. And I would hope that I Would have five Senators who Would distribute it with me. And until such time, We cannot adopt this. Are there five Senators who are wklling to raise their hand and adopt this with me?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) A11 right. Take it from the record. Okay. Wedll get back to it momentarily .

Senator Fawell, have you been delivered a copy yet? Do you wish copies of a1l the subsequent amendments? That's fine. A1l rkght. Wkth leave of the Bodyy while all these amendments are beinq copied and distributed, we'll move to the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readàng. Page 2 on the Calendar. 1 would ask the Members who have bills -- or amendments pending on Senate Bills 2nd Readin: to please be ready. Recalls will wait until Senator Fawell has copies of all the amendments. A11 right. On the Order of Senate B&11s 2nd Reading, KaGam Secretary, have any Member indicated they kish to pursue a bill on 2nd Reading? Senator de1 Valle, What's your bill number? Al1 right. Middle of Page 1 . On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 714. 7-1-4, Kadam Secretary. Read the bill, pleaGe.

Senate Bi1l 7-1-4. (secretary reads tàtle oe bill) 2nd Reading of th: bill. The Committee on Judiciary I offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

292  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Senator del Valle, on Conmittee Amendment No . 1. SENATOR dEL VKLLE: 'Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I Rove the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1.

Genkleman has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment :o . to Senate Bill 714. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further committee amendmentB.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR J.J. JOYCE) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator del Valle offers Amendment No. 2.

Senator de1 Valle, on Amendment No. 2. SENATOR dEL V/LLE: Thank youe Mr. President. Wedve cleared up the confusion. Amendment No. 2 is the bill. It increases the amount an employee may be paid before any wages may be garnished. And I move the adoption of Floor Amendment No. l Ksic>.

A11 right. Senator del Valle has moved tbe adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 714. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saykng Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have The amendmenk's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. The same order. Same page. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 720. 7-2-0. Madam 293  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Secretary, read the btlt, please.

Senate Bill 720. (Secretary teads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETAR% HAWKER: Senatox Ge1 zalle offers Amendment No. 1. PRàSIDEXT Rock: Senator de1 Valle: on Amendment No. 1. SENATOR dEL VALLE: Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. deletes provisions on ownership disclosure and community reinvestmenk and increases the cheek cashin: for public benefit checks from seventy- five aents to .9 percent of its face value. I move the adoption of Ploor Kmendment No. :.

senator de1 Valle has moved the adoption of Amendment Nc . to/ Senate Bill 720. Senator Collins, on this amendment.

0h, I'm sorry. No.

All right. Senator del Valle has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 720. Discussion? If not, a11 in favore indicate by' saying Aye. All opposed . The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Readinq. Senator Dunn, what's your bill number? Senator Collins, do you have a bill on 2nd Reading? Whatfs the number, 294  i STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT ! 31st Legislattve Day May 2z, l9pz please? SENATOR COLEINS: 673. PRESIDENT ROCK: A11 right. On Page 7 on the Calendar, on the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading/ is Senate Bill 673. Rea; the bill, Madam Secretary, please. SECRETARY HAWKER: ' Senate Bill 673. Xsecretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Judiciary 11 offers Committee Amendment No. 1. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Collinsy on Committee Amendment No. 1. SENATOR COLLINS: Committee Amendment No. 1 reduce the bill back ta a shell bill, because there. is a coalition of people of a1l who's involved, includàng the Cook County aoard's Office. It's trying to come up with an agreed amendment. It's my understanding, at z this point, that they are -- have almost resolved a11 of the problems, It's still a little -- some issues are unclear or unresolved by tbe County Board. But what I would làke to do was to go on and to move'khe shell to 3rd Reading. And hopefully, if they haven't agreed by the end of this Week, we'll pass it on to the House. So I would move for its adoption. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Collins has moved the adoption of Commlttee Amendment No . l to Senate Bill 673. Discusgion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes bave it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: So furtber committee amendments. 295 1 1  STATE OF ILLIXOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

Amendments from the Ploor?

No Floor amendments.

3rd Reading. Bottom of Page l0: on the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, is Senate Sill 1440. Read the bill, :adam Secretary.

Senate Bill 1440. ' tsecretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readlng of *he bill. No committee amepdments.

Are there amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKERZ Senator Thomas Dunn offets hmendment No. 1.

Senator Dunnz on Amendment No. 1.

Thank you: Mr. President. Senator DeAngelis is a hyphenatedz co-sponsor with me on this bill. And what this bill does is it replaces the education portion of your tax bill with an increase in the income tax to fund it. And it's done over a ten-year period. The local property taxes for education are decreased by ninety percent over that ten-year period, and the income taxes are increased over that same period. The income tax rate would increase from 3. to 4.1 for personal and on corporate from 4.8 to siX percent. It also presumes that all -- all the money Would go towards education. It also presumes that the income tax surcharge would become permanent. The homeowner's property tax relief deduction is chanqed so that the taxpayer, with an adjusted gross ineome between zero and eiqhty-nine -- nine hundred and ninety-nine thousand dollars qsic> ($89,9993, may deduct three 296  STATZ OP ILLINOIG 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRKNGCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 hundted an; fkfty percent of his real property taxes paid. There's no change in the deduction for taxpayers with an adjusted qross income over ninety thousand dollars, which is two hundred percent of the real property taxes paid. The bill lowers the rate that a local school board may levy annually on taxable property over a ten-year period from its current rate by nknety percent by the year 2001. Thfs bill creates the Property Tax Relief Fund. The Fund is to be distributed to school districts, and requires the county clerk L/ determine the amount of reduction in real property taxés as a result of this bill. The monthly dtsbursements wkll be made to the school dàstrkcts from the Property Tax Relief Pund, and it's a dollar for a dollar. And itds 9uaranteed that every dollar raised by the increase in revenue Will go towards education.

Senator Dunn's xoved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1440. Discussion? Senator Rigney.

Well, I hope everybody is kind of payinq attention on thisz one, because it's yrobably one of the more siqnificant pieces of legislation that we will deal with in this Session. I think maybe it borders on the basis of being a pretty good bill, but I'm not sure, when we get down to the fîne prlnty that theregs everything here that we might Want. Pirst of all, let me understand, Senator Dunn. Does this provide relief for al1 property taxpayers or just as homeowners?

Senator Dunn.

Your lkttle -- the reason I say this is your little handout indicated that ik affeets the individual taxpayer, and that cauld be the farmec or the shop owner. 297 ! . i i STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR sEssloN SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 PRESIDENT ROCE: Senator Dunn. SENATOR T. DUNN: It's residentkal. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Rigney . SENATOR RIGNEY: Now, ta pay for this and to make the whole thing work, you are raisinq khe tax upon individuals that -- raisinq the lncome tax upon individuals and upon corporations. 5o I rather suspect, the Way you answered the firsk question is, the corporations don't 9et anything out of this. Is that correet? PRESIDENT ROCK: . Senator Dunn. SENATOR T. DUNN: Strictly speaking, eorrect. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Rigney. SENATOR RIGNEY: z Well, I guess the time to debate this is when we actually 9et on 3rd Reading, which I assume k)ll be tomorrow. But does this thin: do anythàng to the surtax - make any assumptions about the surtax? PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Dunn . SENATOR T . DDNN: It does, Senator. It presumes that the surcharge wkll beeome permanent. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Rigney. SENATOR RIGNEV: Now wait a minute -- how did you ansWer that question again? 298 i  I j 87S tT hAT GENO EP RAL ILt AI SN So EI Ms BLY RscsshR sEssloN SENATE TRANSCRIPT i . 31st tegislative Day May 22, 1991 r 1 PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Dunn. SENATOR T. DUNN: It presumes and assumes that the surcharge will become permanent. PRBSIDENT ROCK: Senator Rigney. SENATOR RIGNEV: What about the distribution? PRESIDENT ROCk: Senator Dunn. SENATOR T. DUNN: It still uses the same formula for education. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Riqney. SENATOR RIGNEY; ' The same distribution for education. Apparenkly, you're doing something different then with the part that's going to cities and counties. Is that correct? What are you doing with that? / PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Dunn. SENATOR T. DDNN: Itgs a11 going to education. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Rigney. SENATOR RIGNEY: As I just statedy I guess the time to debate this is on 3rd Reading. But I'm pointing out that therels at least some problems that I think are inherent in this bill. PRESIDENT ROCX: Further discussion on Amendment No. 1? Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: 299  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANGCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Thank you, Mr. President. Senator Rigney : you are correct. This is a very siqnificant ame ndment. In the Whole time that I have been in this General Assembl y, I have heard it satd, eime and time again, We must, in fact, shift the burden of f unding education from a property tax- based system to an income tax- based system. This bill does ik. In fact, this bill does it in sp ades. It takes the permissive rate over a ten-year and brings it almost down to zero . hnö it does do àt with an income t ax increase, 'cause you can't tur: around and put six pounds of manure in a five-pound bag . You've got to come up witb the replacement revenues from someplace. And nobody's ever argued that you don't have to have an kncome tax to do it. So, what we have here :s, in fact, a first step -- a first step towatd a goal. Itls a giant step - giant step. There are a feW flaws in it , but we can correct those along the way. But I want to tell you , if the General Assenbly has';been serious about moving to that kind of system, and by the way, education does not lose a nickel in thi s process. And I don't want to hear any complaints from them at al1 about how they're getting screwed on the short end of the stick witb the money, 'cause the money is there. And we have, in fact , put our money where our mouth -- our m oney where our mouth is, because this bill does, in fact, raise the income tax . But I have to tell you, far too long -- far too long we in Illinois have been listenkng to our homeowners being burdened with these taxes . We have seen educational funding on an inequitable basàs . We now have a mechanism in place, with this amendment , to work out tbe school formula problèms, the inequity problems, the property tax problems. And let me point out t o some people vEo Ray think perhaps raisin: the i 'ncome tax might be a little unfair. Today -- today, there are people who are payïnq a lot of income tax , payknq a lot of property tax, and their school districts are gettk ng virtually nothing. This takes care Lf that problem as Well . T 300 l  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th CCNERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TNANSCRTPT 31st Legislative Day May 22r 1991 urge support for this amendment. PRESIDENT ROCK: A1l rtght. Senator Dunn's moved the adoption of Amendm ent No. l to Senate B1ll 1440. Discussion? Senator Sch uneman . SENATOR SCHUNEMAS: Thank you, Mr. President. A couple of questions of the SpDnsor. PRESIDENT ROCK: Indicates he'll yteld, Senator Sehunenan . SENATOR SCHUNSMANJ Senator, first of all, notice that the personal income tax under this proposal is inereased from the presenk tbree percent to 4.1. Now, according to the fi gures that -- that I have seen, in FY'9l, the indtvidual income t ax in this State raised four billion three hundred million doll ars. So, under thiô proposal, you dre going to raise anokher one billi on-something. I mean, it's a little over a billion dollars after it is fully implement ed. Now occurs to me that that's not nearty enough to make up for the loss of ninety percent of the property taxes that are -- that are going to be relieved. Could you respond to that con cern?

Senator Dunn .

Yes, Senator. I think you're making reference to -- to the whole grogram over ten years. I tbink individually : each yearg this does supply the money that we have said that it Will sug ply, to reduce, year by yeart the amount on your education po rtion of your tax bill.

Senakor Schuneman.

I understand we're qoinq to debate this question tomorrow , but 301  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRTPT 31st Legislative Day May 22 , 1991 thks -- this is a very sëgniftcant issue. We need to give some thouqht to this. Do you know -- can you tell me: Senatorz hoW much money is represented by the ninety percent of the real estate tax that this ultimately Would forgive? How much money does that represent this year?

Senator Dunn.

1'11 yield to Senator DeAngelis, if I may. PRESIDENT ROCk: Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Senator Schuneman, this only applies to the permissive rate, which is the rate that all sehool districts across the State can levy without referendum. The amount beyond that that sebools have chosen to raise their own taxes on remains intact. So the ninety percent you're talking about is on the permissive rate. SENATOR SCHUNEMAN: ' Wel1...

Senator Schuneman.

So the amounk of relief that would be received is not the total rea: estate property tax for the purpose of education. lt's only a portion of that tax. Okay. Okay. The other -- the other question, I guess, that -- Ehat comes lnto my mind is that ninety percent of the property taxes in some places in Illinois represent a huge portion of that school budgetr whereas in other parts of Illinois, it represents a lesser percentaqe of their budget. How do you -- ho* do you intend to dkstribute that money? Are you goinq to brinq everybody up to the high level of expenditures? Or are you going to 'bring everybody with a high -- those 302  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION ' ' SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 high-spendkng districts down? How do you plan to level that out?

Senator Dunn.

Senator DeAngelis will answer that one.

Senatoy Dehngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Senator Schuneman, this bill does not address that. But it does put in 'place a mechanism that permits a pretty good discussion on it. That is a problem that I think we Will have in perpetuity, but you can't do al1 of that in one bill. You can't.

Senator Schuneman.

Well, think I've raised -- raised the issues that I want to raise, Mr. President. And there are a 1ot of questions to be answered here. I'm not against the proposal necessarily, but think that We need to know a lot more before We vote on it tomorroW.

Further discussion? Senator Kelly.

Thank you, Mr. Fresident. I'd like to ask the sponsor a question.

Sponsor indicates he will yield, Senator Kelly.

Senator Dunn, what about the local governmentsv aside from education? What provisions or what is your legislative intent to 'cause they do receive a certain portion of local properey taxes. Will this have any impact at a11 on their current 303  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBL: REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 privileges to levy property taxes?

Senaeor Dunn. SENATOR % . DUNN : Local property taxes are -- are not affected, except for education. The others are left as is.

Further discussion? Senator Davidson.

Que#tion df the sponsor. PRESIDENT ROCK; Sponsor indicates he Wtll yield.

Senator Dunn, most of us are very concerned about lacal control by the local school board, which, in essence, has been in their hands, because the majority of the money in most cases eame from what Was raised by local property tax. Are you, in essencep by this bill, with ninety percent of the property tax being reduced and being replaced by a ninety percent increase in the income tax, are you, in essence, takin: control of the local school dlstrict away from that local elected sehool board?

Senator Dunn.

Well, it -- Doc, they still -- Senator, khey still have power to -- to put a referendum Eorward. They still have the elected school boards to -- to spend the money. No, I don't think we 're taking akay local control at all. As a matter of faet, one of the reasons we reduced it only to ninety percent Was to retain some loeal control on tbat money.

Senator Davidson. 304  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBL: REGULAR SESSION SENATC TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

Well, àenator Dunn, you and I b0th know that in government what drives it is the funding, and if we back here are going to control the funds by appropriation process, we, in essence, are going to control that loaal school board if theyfre only going to be -- control ten percent of their total expenses. I am not sure -- I'm sympathetic to the idea, but until I knok that the local school board are still going to have control of that district, and the fundinq for each one school diserict doesn't rely on however we may or may not feel that day as to what we appropriate to them . I'd like to have a clear-cut understandin: that -- that one, the money's qoing to flow right on through, like We do on the share of income tax to local government, and two, that the local school board won't be restricted on how they spend tbat money in relation to operatinq their district.

Further discussion? Further discussion? Senator Dunn, to close.

urge an Aye vote. It's a real oppoztunity...

The question is the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 1440. A11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Any other Member have a bill on 2nd Reading on the Calendar they wksh to move this evening? Senator Raica, goudll give us khe number, wedll be happy to -- 5-8-8. Top of Page 7, on the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, is Senate Bill 588. Read the bill. Madam Secretary. 305  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRKNSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991

Senate Bill 5-8-8. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

Any amendments from the Ploor?

Senator Raica offers Amendment No.

Senator Raica, on Amendment No. 1.

Thank you for allowin: me to call the bill: Mr. President. Floor Amendment No. just is merely a stylistic change and sets forth the intent in the operations mechanism of the -- of the bill. And I would just ask for its adoption.

Senator Raica's moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 588. Discussion? If not, a1l in favor, indlcate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendnents?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Any other Member have a bill on 2nd Readin: they wish to pursue? Wbat's the pleasure of the group? Do we go ahead with Recalls? We are qoin: to be here Friday, in any event. So, not to Worry. Page 11 on the Calendar, on the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading. Senator Cullereon seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 160 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave qranted? Leave is qranted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd, Senate Bill 160: Madam Secretary. 306  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 3kst Legislattve Day May 22, 1991 END OF TAPE TAPE 7

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Cullerton.

Senator Cullerton.

Thank you, Mr.' President, Members of the Senate. This amendment was offered at the suggestion of the Farm Bureau. It indicates that the classification by the county shall not include farmland and the equalized assessed value of farmland shall continue to be determined under Section 20e. I move for its adoption.

Senator Cullerton's moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 160. Discussion? If notz all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further anèndments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. On'the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 200. Senator Marovitz seeks leave of the Body Eo return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Sill 200, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. offered by Senator Marovitz. PRESIDENT ROCMJ 307  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 Senator Marovitz.

Thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. This amendment eliminates the Class C penalty for leavin: a gun nobody's injured, and exempts situations in whieh a minor uses a firearm in self-defense or in defense of anotber, and I'd ask for adoption.

Senator Marovitz bas moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 200. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A1l opp6sed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Further amèndments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Top of Page 12. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd is Senate Bill 330. Senator Marovitz seeks leave of the Body to return that bill Eo tbe Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leav: grahted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senaee Bills 2nd Readingy Senate Bill 330, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Marovitz.

Senator Marovitz.

Tbank you very muchg Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Amendment No. 2 replaces a1l the references to the Word ''perceived -- perceived sexual orientationp'' It deletes al1 references to citizenship, alkenage, linguistic background and disabklitkes. And that's al1 the amendment does. PRESIDENT ROC#: Senator Marovitz has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to 308  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th CESERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22g 1991 Senate Bill 330. Discussion? If not, all in favor , indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Keats.

Senator Keats. Withdraw the amendment. Purther amendments?

No further amendments. PRESIDENT ROCE) 3rd Reading. Senator Jones, on Page 13. Senate Bill 458. Senator Jones seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readin: is Senate Bill 458, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY EA%KER: Amendment No. l offered by Senator Jones.

Senator Jones, oh Amendment No.

Xeah. Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Amendment No. l divides the money equally between the Race Track Improvement Fund and the Race Track -- the Race Track Backstretch Improvement Pund, and I move i*s adopeion.

Senator Jones has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 458. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

309  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE IRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22F 1991 3rd Reading. Bottom of Page l3. Senator Macdonald. On the Order of Sehate Bills 3rd Reading, Senate Bill 520. Senatcr Macdonald seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is -- Senate Bill 520, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Macdonald.

Senator Macdonald, on Amendment No. 4.

Thank ycu, Mr. President. Amendment No. 4 deletes the entire Sectlon 20, related to movies and restricted viewinq, so there is no more any -- any Section on restricted viewing or the movie industry or any of the rest of it. And in -- in the -- Section 25, it says that 'fpublic inspection; instructional material. A11 instructional material used by a public school shall, upon request, be made available for public inspection before and during their use during the hours that the school is openo l' So thatl: a1l this amendment does, and I urge your acceptance of this amendment.

Senator Macdonald has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 520. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendmentls adopted . Further amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Middle of Page 14 is Senate Bill 688. On the Order of 3rd Reading. No. Senator Jones.

3l0  I STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GZNERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Yeah. Thank you, Mr. President. I -- leave to withdraw the amendment.

All right. Withdraw the amendment. Take it off the list. Page l6. Senator Schaffer. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 894. 8-9-4. Senator Schaffer seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading fcr purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 894, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 1 offered by Senator Eolmberg.

Senator Holmberq. SENATOR HOLMBERGJ This basically -- I've talked to Senator Schaffer about this, and -- requires the Department of Corrections to eskablish and operate azLateral and Vertical Steel Pile Cabinet Program in its correctional industries facility. And this Steel Cabinet Program - like the Furniture Manufacturing Program - Would be fiscally self-sufficient.

Senator Schaffer.

Just Wanted eo indicate that Senator Holmberg and I have talkedg and I -- I donlt think there will be a problem with the amendment, but if, in factv we have a major problem, I may want to get back to you, because I don't want to lose the Whole bill. But 1 think tbat would happen in the other Chamber, but seems like a worthy cause for a company that's located in the town I also partially represent.

31l  STAIE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 All right. Senator Holmberg's moved the adpption of Amendment No l to Senate Bill 894. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Fureher amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Schaffer. PRESIDENT RQCK: Senator Schaffer, on Amendment No. 2. ' SENATOR SCHAFFER: Mr. Presfdent, Amendment No. 2 comes from the Department cf Correction, and would provide that only persons committed to . è minlmum- or medium-security institutions would be allowed to participate in the basic program: khich is to encourage the Department to use some of our prisoners for recycling and garbaqe sitin: -- site sortinq programs. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Schaffer's moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 894. Discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicate by sayknq Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARX HAWKER: No further amendMents. PRESIDENT ROCK: 3rd Reading. Paqe l6. Senakor Brookins. On the Order of Senate Bills 3rd àeadinq is Senate Bill 1015. Senator Brookins seeks leave of the Body to return tbat bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1015, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 1 offered by Senators Carroll and President Rock. 312  STATE OP TLLINOIS 87*h GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Couple years back when We passed the :as tax: there had been some commitmenes made on mass transit qrants, that those would continue to be funded at a level of about thirty-nine million dollars. Governor has indicated there may be lack of General Revenue Funds. This would be permissive to say that they could use either General Revenue or Road Fund. The Road Fund kas the recipient of the :as tax, and I would move adoption of Amendment No. 1.

Senator Carroll has moved the adoption of Amendment.No. 1. Discussion? Senator Watson.

Yes. Thank you, kr. President. Question of the sponsor.

Sponsor indicate: he will yield.

Senator, how much money are we talkin: about here?

Senator Carroll.

Well, the Road Eund has four hundred seventy-six million three hundred thousand excess balance as of now. The amount of money that had been committed by the admlnistration and the city on the gas tax for Statewide use is something, as I said before, of 38.5 million dollars. Now this, of coursey does not say it has to come out of the Road Fund at all. Ik just allows an option to the administration as to which fund from year to year they would seek to use to pay this mandatory grant. PRESIDENT ROCK) 3l3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 8?th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Senator Watson.

Yes. Thank you. Well how will this be repaid? Is this going to be a -- a similar loan like we made last year to the State Police Pund that wi11 be repaid?

Senator Carroll.

No, itês not intended to be a loan. The lssue was mass transit is a Road Fund-related program or is a Road Fund-related program. We're not sayin: that it's qoing to be paid out of Road Fund this year either. Al1 wedre sayinq is that we have -- we have taken away the restriction on Road Fund that this mass transit - just like in federal terms, highway funds go towards mass transit grants - here we're saying that in the discretion of the Governor and his budget, it could be Road Pund: could be General Revenue, Whibhever they prefer.

Senator Watson.

Well this is a diversion, quite *- quite honestly. Another question of the sponsor. In your amendment it says ''surplus monies.'d Now from what I understand from the Department of Transportation is that the Road Pund money which you said was such a great balance is a11 allocated. It's all -- even though it's sitting in there. it is allocated for various road projects throughout this State, and so how do you define what Msurplus monies'' miqht be?

Senator Carroll. SENATOR CARROLL) don't try to define. Tbereforee the Legislative Reference 314  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Bureau drafted thks -- they drafted it to track -- 1'11 wait till Senator Watson can -- either way you want to do it. You want -- he could explain it probably just as well. It's the the Reference Bureau correctly drafted it this way, because it tracks existinq State law. ''Surplusy'' by State law: is defined as those amounts available in the Road Fund after you have paid al1 mandakory bond issues. Thatîs the funds we use to build highways and to do mass transit grants and anything else. It doesn't mean surplus because there's a 1ot of money in the fund, even though that's the :ame type of word. It is a Statutory definition of after the payment of debt serviee.

Purther discussion? Xenator Watson.

Well, a diversion is a diversion. And from What you said, Senatory from the beMinning of your remarks, is that I guess it Was in 1989 when *he gas tax package passed. The RTA was :iven around thirty-six million dollars - thirty-four million of believe which went to the CTA - for a reduced-fare program for the handicapped, elderly and students. And these were General Revenue Fund dollars, not Road Fund dollars that youdre asking for now. And as you mentioned, Senator, Governor Edgar has dropped this reduced-fare program from the budget simply because of the revenue picture that we -- we have now. But now, the CTA wants to come in and take money out of the Road Pund to replace this -- this -- these dollars, and what -- where's this money goinq to come from? It's qoin: to come from, prlmarily, road projects ln -- in many of our districts throuqhout this State and certainly in downstate Illinois, and I think that we should realize we still owe thirty-six million dollars from last year that we took out of the -- the Road Fund for the State Police. And just don't -- I just don't think we can kid ouiselves. I think that We all need to 3l5  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT ' j 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 realize that this is going to affect the Road Program, as We now know, and the effect w1ll be negatively felt in our districts . Wefre talkin: about over a five-year period a hundred and eighty-five million dollars. So I think the proper vote on this from anybody from outside the RTA - and especially CTA - region is No. And a roll call Would be suggested and would appreciate a roll call. PRESIDENT ROCK: Further discussion? Senator Donahue. SENATOR DONAHUE: Thank you: Mr. President I rise in opposition to this amendment as well, and would simply state that I find it amazing how We -- we indicate that there's four hundred and seventy-five million dollars in the Road Fund as if they're extra. Theyfre obligated dollars, and we all have projects - as Senator Watson was indicatinq - in our disericts, that those dollars are designated for. And I rise in opposition to this and Would reiterate the roll call request. PRESIDENT ROCK: Further discussion? Senator Rigney. SENATOR RIGNEX: Maybe it's a little late in the day to be into history, but as I recall reading back in - I think it was the l30s - When we established the Road Fund and the Motor Fuel Tax, it Was found to be constitutional by the court, because it was a user fee, related to the purpose of roads and road building and transpartation and so forth. And it seems ko me over the years we have souqht, in one way or another, to try to modify this and find all kinds of other uses for our Road Fund monies. And as I understand this, this is apparently about a thirty-five-million-dollar hit that will send some money away from the -- the original idea of road construction, and I just personally find that a little offensive, 316  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22# 1991 because -- at least in our part of the State - and think really anywhere in the State of Illinois - there's a very stronq need for even greater dolkars for highway construction . We just can't afford this type of shenanigans. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Purther discussion? Senator Woodyard. SENATOR WOODYARD: Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Wellv I also rise to oppose this -- this amendment. With the criticism that we reeeived a year aMo or so when we -- when we borrowed actually borrowed - thirty-six million dollars from ehe Road Fund ' to fund the State /olice, at least that borroking carried a repayment plan. And, Senator Carroll, a question to youy if you would yield? Well, Senator, with your response to -- to a repayment plan, I thought you kind of went around that. Is there anythin: in this amehdment that -- that does mandate or require the repaymqnt of these funds?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZTO) Senator Carroll.

Senator %oodyard, let me give you a little long of an answer on purpose. The -- as I'm sure the bistorkans, Senator Rigney, would recall, that these mass transit grants had been -- from year to year have been paid out of either Road Fund or General Revenue Fund, as submltted by the Governor's budqet from time to tàme. Over a period of years they were Road Fund; over a period of years they were General Revenue Fund. This is not a borrowing . A1l this says is, that t%is Fs -- can be - doesn't mean we are going to have to do it; it is not mandatory - that it can be a Road Fund paid-for grant or a General Revenue Fund paid-for grant. So it's not a borrowinq. If a Chief Executive decides it's a better use to use Road Funds any given year to save General Revenuee or if he 317 h  STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th REGE UN LE ARAL SEA SSS IE OM NBLY ) SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 decides it's a better use to use General Revenue any given year instead of Road Funds, it would allow the flexibility to use either, because these were agreed-to grants. Some years General Revenue is flush. Some years Road Funds are flush. We don't want to tie their hands either Way.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Woodyard.

Thank you, Mr. President. Well then, if this amendment is adopted and the bill is passed, then -- and the -- the grant comes out of the Road Fund, can you tell me what the impact is going to be on downstate road projects?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENKTOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll.

There -- the Road Fund would have less total dollars in it. There would be no direct -- I mean -- there Would be no direct impact until you knew the total picture. If the Governor decided that this was an appropriate use of Road Punds: I. would assume it would have no impact or he wouldn't so decide.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Woodyard.

Well, Mr. President and Members of the Senate, I -- I think We would see quite an impact and, as a matter of fact, I think We'd see a reduction and -- and a scrapplng of several downseate road projects, and I would urqe opposition to Ehe amendmenE.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All rtqht. Further discussion? Senator Rock.

Thank you, Mr. President: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. As long as We're talking history - Senator Rigney, in particular, 3l8  STATE 0P ILLINOIS I 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY # REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 the historian - as the sponsor of the six-cent gas tax increase, I was there and many of you were there. And the fact of the matter is, we made a deal. I know that sounds a little harsh in this Chamber, but the fact is, we made a deal. That's how I Wound up as the administration sponsor of an administration gas tax. And the deal was, as everybody painfully recakls, that there was not going to be any gas tax, unless there Was some accommodation for mass transportation. And the deal was struck and it was struck in writing. And now I hear we Want to reneqe. That was a five-year program. A five-year program that included, as a very minuscule part, a grant to mass transportation in Northern Illinois, that grant having to come out of General Revenue, because We dasn't ever look at the Road Fund, my goodness: What a terrible tbing . You know What the alternative to this is? This doesn't mandate anything. It just says to the Governor, 'If you Want to live . up to the aqreement that your predecessor made, here's an opportunity - tap the Road Fund - if you want to live up to your commitment that was made by the Chief Exeçutive of this State in exchange for the passage of a .six-cent gas tax, that al1 the beneficiaries over there weren't prepared to support.''They want the projects, but they donft want to pay the tax. The alkernative to this, I sugqest, and I even considered it, is to repeal that :as tax - to roll it back. Then we'll see what's in the Road Fund. Then we'll see how many projects are out there. We made a deal. Six cents increase on the gas tax; mass transportation as an integral part of this State 's economy is accommodated to a very small degree . h11 this says to the Governor is, ''Here, wedll give you another chance; please live up to your predecessor's agreement.'' I urge an Aye vote. ' PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. Further discussion? Senator Schaffer. SENATOR SCHAFFER : 3l9 I  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLV I RECOLAR sEssloN SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Mr. President and Members of the Senate, yes, in fact, Qe did make a deal, and President Rock is absolutely right, and part of that deal was -- I cbnsider thirty-some -- thirty to forty million dollars a more than minuscule amount of money, but a significant commitment of General Revenue Funds for mass transit. And Senator Rock is correct; ik's mf understanding that that money is not in this year's budget, and I think one could only say that that is at least fargetting. if not a total violation, of a commitment. But part of that quote, unquùte 'deal' Was that mass transit for this type of thing would stay out of the Road Pund. Clearly mass transit gets the bonding and the other things Ehrough the Department of Transportation that we've been most generous with over the years. The fear that I havev and I have -- I come from Northeastern Illinois - my area is served by mass transit. I have mellowed out on that over the years. I believe in the use of mass transit. I believe it's something Welll use even more in the future in my part of the world. But the bottom line is that many of us have had a fear - albeit perhaps, paranoid, you know - but just cause youdre paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to :et you. If we let that money-eating monster - the mass transit systems of Northeastern Illinois - into the Road Fund, there's serious question in my mind whether we will qet the snow plow ten years from now downstate. That -- that agency can eat money faster than anything I've ever seen, with the possible exception of our revered education system in the State. I think this is a miseake. I agree with Senator Rock; there was a deal. Obviously somebody has forgotten about that deal. But the answer isn't to go back on the other part of the deal, whlch was Ehat *he Road Funds would be used for highway construction. Senator Rock, I think we need to make sure the people on the 2nd Floor remember the deal, but let's not us go back on our part of what we committed to do. I . . 320 !  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENCRAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) All right. Purther discussion? If not, Senator Carroll may elose.

Welly I find it obviously a very interesting discussion. Somebody is working the Floor to say, ''Oh my# God, look at what this will do in your districts.'' Anybody bother to look last week or a couple weeks a9o at the spring repair program? Out of the blue: Deparement came up with thirty-one million dollars. NoW I donlt think 'they went to any Member and sald, g'Wegre going to do spring repair out of the Road Fund and look at the project youIre oing to lose.' Why, 'tàey said the opposite: 'There's -- nobody's going to lose a project, there's just another thirty-one million dollars we can spend.'' That's fine. We have written commitments that have to be met. A1l this is saying and the last time I read the Constitution, the power of the pen still resides on the 2nd Floor - all this is saying is, when, asz and if availab1e, here's an optio 'n. You Want to honor your com itmerit a Written commitmei nt - not with spending on programs that the :as tax was not part of the commitments for - new money, found money, instead of honoring written commitments, not touching any Road Programs, spending it any way you want, on other commitment. If you want to do it out of this Fund, it's an option. If you want to do out of General Revenue Fund, it's clearly an option. The decksion Will be made by the power of the pen when they sign the bill into law, as to how ik is funded. I would suggest this ks an appropriate option at a time wben they're trykng to throw the money outl better they honor the commitments, and I would urge support.

PRESIDING QFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Carroll's moved the adoption of Amendment No. Tbose in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. 321  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22y 1991 Oplnion of the Chair the the Nags have it. Amendment No. 1 is lost. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Readinq. Senate Bil1 1025. Senator Jones seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 1025 to the Order of 2nd Readkng for the purpose of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is qranted . On the Order of -- seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bàll 1025 to the Order of 2nd for -- for the purpose of an amendment. Is leave qranted? Leave is qranted . On the Order of Senate Bïlls 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1025, Madam Secretary .

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Jones.

Senator Jones, on Amendment No.

ïeah. Thank you, Mr. -- President. Amendment No. is an amendment that was worked out between the City of Chicago and the insurance industry, and it deletes reference to elements that rise war and so forth. And it deletes the requirement that aertification be filed with the insurer: and I move its adoption. PRESIDENT ROCKJ Senator Jones moves the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Sill 1025. Diseussion? If not, al1 in favor: indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have i*. %he amendment's adopted. Purther amendments?

No further amendment.

3rd Reading. With leave of the Bodyz wedll revert to 1017, so we get SénaEor Brookins off the podium. On the Order of Senate 322  STAIE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REOULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSQRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22, 1991 Bills 3rd Reading, Senate Bill 1017. Senator Brookins seeks leave of the Body to return that bkll to the Order of 2nG Reading for purposes of an am4ndment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Readinq: Senate Bill 1017, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Brookins.

Senator Brookins, on Amendment No. 2.

Thank you. Mr. Presldent. On Amendment No. 2, what We did was made an agreement with Public Health, and now they have given us a bill that they can live With and We can live With, and they.are in support of the amendkent how.

Senator :rookins mokes *he adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bi11 1017. Discussion? If not, a11 in favor, indtcate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have The amendmentls adopted. Purther amendments?

No further amendyents.

3rd Reading. Page l7. 1051. Senator Cullerton seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for ' purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted . On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1051, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Cullerton.

Senator Cullerton.

323  STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legïslative Day May 22, 1991 Thank you: Mr. Preeident and Members of the Senate. Rhis is a modification to an amendment that we passed yesterday at the request of the Realtor: and the Peoples Cas Company. We bave made these technical adjustments. I move for the adoption.

Senator Cullerton's moved the adoption of Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 1051. Discusslon? If nok, all in favor, indicate by sayin: Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Purkher amendments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Top of Page 17 is Senate Bill 10S3. Senator Cullerton seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for pùrposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading. Senate Bill 1053. Senator Cullerton.

Yes, Mr. President, I Wish to Table Amendment No. 2 to this bill. PRCSIDENT ROCK) A1l right. The Gentleman, havin: voted on the prevailinq side, is movin: to reconsider the vote by whkch Amendment No. was adopted: for khe purpose of Tabling. A1l in favor of the Moeion to Reconsider, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes bave it. The vote's reconsidered. Senator Cullerton now moves to Table Amendmenk No. to Senate Bill 1053. A11 in favor of the Motion to Table, indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed . The Ayes have lt. The moeion carries. Amendment No. 2 is Tabled. Purther amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Cullerton. 324  STATE OE ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SERATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Leqislative Day May 22# 1991

Senatoz.cullerton, on Amendment No. 4.

yes. Same subject matter. The same amendment to modify an amendment that we adopted yesterday at the request of Peoples Gas and the Realtors. Move for its adoption.

Senaeor Cullerton's moved the adoption of Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 1053. Discusoion? If not, a11 in favor: indicate by sayin: Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Further amendments?

No Eurther amendments.

3rd Reading. 1164. Senator Reats seeks leave of the Body to rekurn Senate Bill 1164 to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted . On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1164: Madam Secretary.

Amendment Ho. l offered by Senator Keats.

Senator Keats.

It's a one-word change. When they drafted it, they just put in Ehe wrong word. This puEs in the correct one. Thatls the only change to the bill. PRESIDENT ROCXI Senator Keats ha# moved the adoption of Amendment No. to Senate Bill 1164. Discussion? If not: all in favorv indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments? 325  STATE OF ILLINOIS E 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislaeive Day May 22, 1991

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. Middle af Page 17 is Senate Bill 1234. Senator Berman seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave ia granted. On tbe Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading: Senate Bill 1234, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 1 offered by Senator Berman.

Senator Berman.

Thank you. This amendmynt sets up tbe appointments to the Judicial Advisory Board created by this bill, so that there are equal number of Democrats and Republican members appointed. I move the adoption of Amendment No . 1.

Senakor Berman's moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 1234. Discussion? If not: all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further am>ndments?

No further amendments.

3rd Reading. 1282. Senator Philip séeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading, Senate Bill 1282, Madam Secretary.

Amendment No. 1 offered by Senator Philip.

326 I ! STATE op Isszxozs 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 Senator Philip. SENATOR PHILIP: Tbank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. worked out this akendment with Senator Jones. And what it does is grandfathers somebody in as of July 29th, 1986. PRESIDENT ROCKI Senator Philip moves the adoption of Amendment No. l to Senate Bkll 12:2. Dkscusskon? If not. al1 in favor: indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendmentîs adopeed. Fureher amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER : No further amendments. PRESIDENT ROCK: 3rd Readinq. 12b4. Senator Geo seeks Geo-Karis seeks leave of the Body to return that bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for purposes of an amendment. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Order of Senate Bills 2nd Reading: Senate Bill 1284, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY BAWKZR: Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Geo-Karis. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Geo-Karis. SENATOR GEO-KARIS: Mr. President, Ladies and Genttemen of khe Senate, I Would like to :able Amendtent No. So havkn: voted on the prevailing side, I move to reconsider the vote by which it was taken. PRESIDENT ROCK: All right. Senator Geo-Karisz having voted on the prevailing side, is movin: to reconsider the vote by WNic; Amenoment No. l to Senate Bill 1284 Was adopted, for the purpose of Tablinq. All in favor of the Motion Eo Reconsider, kndicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes' have it. The vote is reconsidered. Senator 2 327 r STATEOPILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLV ! REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day M ay 22, 1991 Geo-Karis now moves to Table Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 1284. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indàeate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes bave it. ;he amendmentls -- amendment is Tabled. The motion carries. The amendment's Tabled. Further amendments, Madam Secretary? SECRETARX HAWKER: Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Geo-Karis. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Geo-Karis. SENATOR CEO-EARIS: Mr. President, Ladies'and Gentlemen of the Senate, Ifm -- I'm asking that Amendment No. 2 be passed: because it clarifies the -- tbe intent of the bill, and I move for its passage. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Geo-Karis has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 1284. Discussion? If not, all in favor. indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARI HAWKER : No further amendments. FRESIDENT ROCKZ 3rd Reading. Bottom of Page 17. Senator Topinka seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 1297 to the Order of 2nd Readin: for purposes of an' amendment, Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On the Urder of Senate Bills 2nd Readingy Senate Bill 1297, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. l offered by Senator Topinka. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Topinka. SENKTOR TOPINKA : Yes, Mr. Presideàt and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senatep 328 i I I  I STATE OF ILLINOIS i 87th GENERAL ASSEKBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22, 1991 this indee; is what 1 wkll call the 3erman amendment, because I think Senator Berman really did help to make this a fine bill yesterday by his suggestions. We make it very clear that the expert witnesses herein Would be appointed by the court.

Senator Topinka has moved the adoption of Amendment Nc. l to Senate Bill 1297. Discussion? If not, all in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed'. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments? SECRETARY HAWRER) No further amendments.

3rd Reading. That appears to conclude the Recall List, Ladies and Gentlemqn. Anybody got anything on 2nd they wish to move today? We will be here on Priday morning, hopefully for a very brief time, bùt -- tomorrow morning at nine o'clock, Ladies and Gentlemen. Nine o'clock tomorrow morning. Too early for you? We'll try for nine. If I say 9:30, we won't 9et started till ten. If I say nine, wedll start at 9:30. Senator Butler and I are here every morning at quabter till nine, better believe it. A1l right. It will be nine o'clock tomorrow morning, Ladies and Gentlemen. We've just got a feW more pieces of paper to clear up here and run -- run the Special Session out, so -- have a gooà evening. Wedre just not quite an hour late. Committee Report.

Senators Demuzio and D'Arco, Co-chairmen of the Committee on the Assignment of Bills: reports the assiqnment of the following Rouse Bk11B to committee: Elementary and Secondary Edueation House Bills 98. 104, 215, 266: 572: 780 and 1230; Energy and Envkronment - Housè Bàlls -- pardon me, 69# 164, 293, 990, 1850, 2491 and 2643: Executive - House Bills 899, 1091, 1243, 1571, 2309 and 2385; Finance - House Bills 1488 and 2118; Insurance, Pensions 329 ' i  1 I STATE Oî ILLINOIS i 87th GENEQAL ASSKMBLY 1 REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 31st Legislative Day May 22# 1991 and Licensed Acttvities - House Bills 1487 and 1857: Judiciary I - House Bills .859, 2112 and 24107 Judiciary 11 - House Bills 1225, 1668 and 2206: Labor - House Bill 2017; Public Healthy Welfare and Corrections Housè Bills 1797 and 24132 Revenue - House Bills 298, 406, 516, 931, 1105, 1166, 1429: 2138 and 25792 State Government Orqanization and Administration ëouse Bills; 738, 1186 and 2422: and T'ansportation Rouse Bill 1497.

Further busineàs ko come before the Senate? An9 announcepents?. If not, Sènator -- yes: Idm sorty. Senator Philip.

Thank you, Mr. Preskdent, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I'd ask tbat the record would indicate that Senator Hudson left early this afternoon - his wife is going to be operated on tomorrow.

The record w1ll so reflect. Further business to come before the Senate? If not, Senator Berman moves the Senate stand adjourned unkàl -- Senator Geo-Karis.

Mr. êresident, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, I meant to say so earlier. 0ur latent good friend: retired Senator Peter Miller, passed away last niqht. The funeral is Saturday and the wake is tomorrow niqht at the Oaks I believe it's in Itasca from five to nine.

Thank you. No further business, Senator Berman moves the Senate stand adjourned till Thursday, May 23rd. 'hursday morninq - tomorrow morning -.nine o'clock. Nine o'clock sharp, Ladies and Genelemen. Have a good evening. 330  .-. .4 i RfPGR 1*z TIFLDAY STATE OF ILLINOIS 92/03/:0 PAGE: 001 67TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY 111:3123 SENATE DAILY TRANSCRIPTISN OF D6BàT6 INDEX HAY 22* 1991 H8-0002 FIRST RFADING H:-0tL9 FIRST READING H;-C60t FIRST READING HB-068T FIRST READJNG HB-0T72 FIRST READING H8-0796 FIRST READING HB- t053 FIRST READING HB- ll88 FIRST READIItG HB-l270 FIRST READING H8-:283 FIRST READING H:-131G FIRGT READING HB-l340 FIR3T READING 8:-1353 FIRST READING HB-1##8 FIRST kEADING HB-168* FIRST READING H8-1996 FIRST READING H8-2005 FIRST READING HB-2#58 FI:ST READING 98-2558 FIRST READING 88-25T8 FIRST READING H8-2633 FIRST READING S2-0Q0B THIRO READING sB-0009 THIRD REJDING SB-DOIO 0UT OF RECûRD SB-001t REEALLED 3B-:0l6 THIRD REAOING Sâ-0019 THIRD READING 58-0022 0UT QF RECORD 53-0025 THIRD READING SB-003t THIRO REAOING 58-0037 3ECSND READING SB-00#5 THIRD READING 38-0055 THIRO REAOING S6-0o60 THIRO READING 53-0063 THIRO REAOING 58-0065 THIRD READING SB-006B THIRO REAOIKG 58-0086 THIRD READING sB-009t THIRD R6ADING SB-0G9# THIRO REABING SB-0t0ï THIRD READING Sa-5l02 THIRD ROADING SB-010: THIRD READING 3B-0k05 THIRD READING S6-Ol08 THIRO READJNG SB-0116 SECOND READING 38-0:22 THIRD READING SB-0125 THIRD R6A0I&G SB-0t30 RECALLED SB-0l32 RECALLED 58-0:33 SEEOND READING 58-0152 THIRO READING 58-0154 T91RD READING S3-0lN8 THIRD READING SB-0160 RECALLED sB-0t6o 0Ur GF RECORD 5:-0162 THIRD READING 5:-0:75 SECONU READING 3B-Qt7Y THIRD READING S6-018l THIRD REZDING S:-0t35 THIRD READING SB-0t86 THIRD READING 53-0:87 THIRO READING :3-0189 THIRD READING  % . REPORTI TIFLDAY SrA FE 0F tLLINOJS 92/03/10 PAGEZ 002 8YTH GENERAL ASSEdBLY 111t3:23 SENATE OAILY TRANSERIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX 84Y 22v 1991 S:-Ok9& THIRD READING 39-0200 RECALLED ;B-02t# SEEOND READING 56-0225 THIRD READING 58-0226 THIRD READING 58-0229 THIRD READtNG :8-0238 THIRD READING 5:-0243 THIRO READING &B-O2*& THIRD READING $8-û2#7 THIRD READING :8-02:9 THIRD READING 58-0250 THIRD READING :8-0251 THIRD READING 58-:253 THIRD READING 58-0258 SECOND READING :3-0282 THIRD READING 58-0263 THIRD READING 53-026# THIRD READING 58-0266 THIRD READING 58-0269 THIRD READING SB-0271 SECOND READING 58-0278 THIRD READING SB-028# THIRO READING 38-0293 THIRD READING SB-029G SECOND READING 58-0298 THIRD READING :3-0299 J SECOND READING SB-030I SECOND READING 38-:302 SECSND READING SB-0303 SECOND READING SB-030# SECOND REAOING :8-0305 SECQND READING :8-0306 SECOND READING GB-0304 THIRD READING :8-5308 SECOND READING 53-û309 GECOND READING G3-0310 SFCOND READING SB-D31l SECONO READING ::-0317 THI99 READING SB-031B THIRD READING ::-0323 THIRD READING :8-0330 RECALLES G8-0332 T81R5 RfADING 58-0333 THIRD READING 5:-033: SEEOND READING s8-û335 SECOND READING :3-5336 SECOND READING 58-0337 SECOND READING :5-0338 S8E5ND READING 58-0339 SECOND READING :8-0340 XEC0&& READING SB-03#t SECOND READING 5:-0842 JECOND RSADING SB-03#3 SECOND REAOING G:-0344 SEEOND READING 38-0345 SECOND READING ::-0346 SEEOND RE4&1N& 3:-:347 SECGND READING s:-0348 SECOND READING 38-û379 SECQND READING 58-0350 S6C0&D RE4&ING $8-0351 SECOND READING sB-a352 SECOND RERDXNG 58-û353 SECOND READING  ! RE' àORT: TIFLOAV STATE 0F ILLJNGfS 92/53/10 I pAGEz uo3 87TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY 1.tI1.3z23 I SENATE DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 22* :99: SB-035# SECONO READING 58-0355 SECGND READING 58-:358 SECOND READING 58-0357 SECOND READING 58-0358 SECDNO READING 58-0359 SECONO READING 3B-03&: SEEOND READING SB-0361 SECOND READING 58-0362 GFCOND READING 58-0363 SECOND READING :8-0364 SECDND READING 53-0365 SEEOND READING 58-0366 SECORD READING 58-0367 SECOND READING 58-u368 SECONO READING 58-0369 SECOND READING SB-0370 GECOND REAOING SB-03TL SECOND READING 58-0372 GECOND READING 58-0373 SECOND READING SB-03T# SECOND READING SB-0380 SECOND READING SB-038l THIRD REAOING 58-0382 THIRD READING 53-:383 THIRD READING 58-0386 THIRD READING 38-0389 THIRD READING SB-0390 THIRD READING 58-0398 THIRD READING S3-0#05 SECDN: READING SB-0#07 THIRD REAOING G:-0409 SECOND READING SB-0*t6 THIRD READING 58-0420 THIRO REJDING SB-0&26 THIRD READIRG SB-0129 THIRD READING 58-0435 THIRD READING SB-O*38 THIR: READING SB-01#0 SECOND READING SB-0##2 THIRO READING SB-0*#6 TRIRD RFADING SB-oGst THIRD READING SB-Q#53 THIRD REAOING 58-:*58 RECALLED SB-:*st THIRD REA9ING SB-0#74 THIRD READING SB-0G8# SECOND REAOING 58-:485 SEEOND READING 58-0486 THIRD READING 53-0490 THIRD READING SB-0#97 SECOND READING 58-0505 THIRD REAOING SB-Os06 THIRD READING SB-05tt THIRD READING G8-0520 RECALLED 58-:523 THI4D REAOING s8-0529 THIRD READING SB-053t THIRD READING SB-O53& THTRD REZDING 58-0539 THIRD READING 58-0541 THIRD RE49ING 58-05:3 THIRD READING SB-05#8 THIRD READING SB-0$#9 THIRD READING  : REPORT: TIFLOAY GTATE OF ILLINOIS 92/03/10 PAGEZ 00# 8TrH GENERAL ASGEMBLY 11:13:23 SENATE DAIt# TRANSCRIPTION OF OEBATE INDEX IdAY 224 1991 58-0557 THIRD READING SB-05&& THIRD Rf49ING 58-Q580 THIRO READING 53*0585 THIRD READING 58-0588 SECOND READING 38-0593 THIRD READING 58-0598 SECOKD READING SB-O600 THIRD READING SB-O6O9 THIRD READING S5-061& THIRD READING SB-0621 THIRD READING 58-0626 THIRD READING :8-0628 THIRD READING SB-U838 THIR: READING Sô-0&*2 THIRD READING GB-06#3 THIRD READING SB-0647 THIRD READING SB-08#9 THIRD READING 58-0850 THIRB READING SB-065# THIRD READING SB-0ô58 THIRD READING &B-O&59 THIRD READING :8-0660 THIRD READING SB-066l THIRD READING SB-0&6T THIRD READING SB-0670 .THIRD READING ( :8-:672 THIRD REAOfNG 58-06:3 SECON: READIKG SB-0&88 THIRD REAOING 58-0692 THIRD READING 5:-0693 THIRD READING 53-0697 THIRD READING 53*0699 THIRD READING SB-0705 THIRD READING SB-0Tt# SECOND READING SB-D7l4 OUT 0F REEORD SB-0;15 THIRD READING SB-0717 THIRD REAOING SB-0;20 SECDND READjNG SB-072t THIRD READING 58*0726 SECOND READIRG SB-07&t THIRD REAOING 38*07:* THIRD READING 58-07#6 SEEOND READING 5:-0750 SECOND READING S8-D7;1 THIRD READING :8-0779 THIRD REAOING SB-0T8* THIRD READING 53-0785 THIRD READING $8-0789 SECOND READING SB-0805 THIRD READING S8-O806 THtRD READING SB-0813 THIZ: READING 38-9816 THIRD READING sB-08L7 THIRD READING 53-0818 THIRD READING GB-D:2t SECOND READING 58-0822 THIRO READING 58-0825 THIRD READING sB-G82& THIRD READING 58-0833 SECOND READING SB-Q83* THIRD READtNG 58-:837 THIRD READING SB*08#l THIRD READING )  + I REYpéayz TIFLDA: GTATE OF ILLINOI; 92/53/10 PAGE: c0s 87TH GENERAL ASSEXBLY 1::13:23 SENATE DAILY TRANGCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX I 8AY 22v 1991 58-0647 THIRD READING 58-0855 SECOND READING 58-:863 SECOND READING $8-0883 THIRD READING 53-0885 THIRD READING 58-089: RECALLED S3-090$ THIRD READING 53-0907 THIRD READING SB-09t0 THIR: REAOING 53-0911 THIRD READING 53-0912 THIRD READING 58-0924 THIRD READIRG 38-0927 THIRD RFADING SB-0926 THIRD READING SB-09#5 THIRD READING ZB-09#8 SECONO READING 53-0953 SECOND READING SB-u95# GECOND READING 53-0955 SECOND READING 58-0956 SECOND REAOING 53-0958 SECOND READING 5:-0959 SECOND READING SB-096* THIRD READING 53-0971 THIRD READING SB-097# THIRD READING 58-09T9 THIRD READING SB-0980 THIRD READING SB-0981 THIRD READING 53-0986 THIRD READING 53-0992 THIRD READING 58-0999 THIRD READING SB-1009 THIRD READING SB-l0l5 REEALLED SB-1016 THIRD READING SB-1017 RECALLED :B- t018 THIRD READING ZB-102O THIRD READING 58-1022 THIRD READING 58- 1025 RECALLED SB- t03l THIRD READING 53-1032 THIRD READING SB-1O37 THIRD READING SB-tQ38 SECOND READING SB-ln39 THIRD READING :B- l0#7 THIRD READING SB-10#8 THIRD READING SB- LQ5l RECALLED 58-1053 RECALLEO S;-105& THIRD READING SB-10&0 THIRD READING SB- lQ&t THIRD REA9ING 3:-1067 &ECOND READING 53-1:71 TRIRD REAOING SB-l0Y3 THIRD READING SB-1026 THIRD READING 3B-t078 THIRD READING SB-l079 THIRD READIRG SB-1086 THIRD READING SB-t092 SECOND READING Gb-tQ95 THIRD READING SB-1t05 YHIRD READING S3-1tû7 THIRD ZEAOING S8-111l THIRD READING SB- lt33 SEEOND READING /  + I q REPORTZ TIFLDAY GTATE OF ILLINOIS 92/03/10 PAGEI 00& 87r8 GFNERAL ASSERBLY :1:13:23 I :ENATE OAILY TRAN3CRIPTION 0E DEBATE INDEX 1 I4AY 22* 1991 SB-lt46 THIRO READING S:-11*7 THIRD READIRG SB-11#8 THIRD READING SB-115O SECOND RE/DJNG SB- t16* RECALLED SB- l16; SECOND READING SB-1l69 THIRD READING SB-1L7t THIRD READING SB-t172 THIRD READING SB-It86 THIRD READING SB-1t89 THIRD READING SB- LL9l THIRD REAOING 53-1:92 THtRD REAôING . $6-1193 THfRO REAOING 58-1207 THIRO READING SB-L2t5 THIRD READING S3-12l? THIRD READING 58- 1225 THIRO REAOING SB- 122T THIRD READING SB-123l &ECOND READRNG 5:-1234 RECALLED 58- 1235 SECOND REAOING 58-:237 SEEOND READING SB- L2#1 THIRD READIQG SB-12't THIRD READING SB-t273 THIRD READING S8-t2T7 THIRO READING . SB- t278 THIRD READING SB-l28Q THIRD READING 53-1282 RECALLED 53- :284 RECALLED 58-1285 SEZUND READING 53-129.3 THIRD READING 58-129* THIRD READING 53-129: RECALLED SB-1300 THIRD READING SB-l306 THIRD READING SB-t3O9 THIRD READING 53-1313 THIRD READING SB-13l5 SECGRD READING SB-t3l9 THIRD READING SB-t320 THIRD READING 55-1322 THIRD READING 58- 1323 THIRO READING 58-:32: SECOND READING 58-:329 THIRD READING 53-1338 SECON: READING 33-15#1 GECOND READING SB-13#2 THIRD REAOING SB-13#3 THIRD READING 58-13#9 SECOND READING S9-135t THIRD READING 58-1356 TéIRD ZfADING 58-:358 THIRD READING SB-t370 THIRD kEADING 53-137* THIRD REA9ING SB-l378 THIRD READING SB-1380 THIRD REAOING 38-1392 SEEQND READING SB-LGOA THIRD READING SB-1#05 THIRD READING SB-k*o6 THIRD READING SB- t40T THIRD READING SB-LAIQ THIRD READING 1 I 1  çG REy ' ORT: TIFLDAY STATE 0F ILLINOIS 92/:3/:0 PAGE: 00? 87TH GENERAL ASSENBLY 1::t3:23 SENATE DAILY TRANSERIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX *AY 22* 1991 SB- l#2t THIRD REAOING PAGE 139 SB-t#2'3 CHIRD READING PAGE 1.39 SB-1#2& SEEOND READING PAGE 20 8 SB-1#3t THIRD READING PAGE t# 0 SB-1G35 SECOND READING PAGE 2tO S3-t#3T SECOND REAOING PAGE 21.t . Sô-l##0 SECOND READING PAGE 296 33-1*5* SECOND REAOING PAGE 2l1 SB-1#55 THIRD READING PAGE 14.0 58-1*65 SEEOND READING PAGE 2l2 S5- 1*70 THIRD READING PAGE :*0 SB-t#Tt THIRD READING PAGE 1#0 SR-0#2l RESOLUTIGN OFFERED PAGE 3 SR-0#22 RESGLUTION OFFERED PAGE 3 SR-0*23 ADOPTED PAGE 1.4.t SR-0*e3 RESOLUTION OFF6RED PAGE ti t SR-0#2# RESOLUTJQN OFFERED PAGE t# 1. SUBJECT NATTER SENATE T0 ORDER SENATOR DEMUZIO PAGE 1. PRAYFR - REVERENO EECIL RENSHAR PAGE 1. JOURNALS - POSTPONED PAGE l YESSAGE FROM THE HOUSE PAGE MEMORIAL DA# SERVICE PAGE 109 RECESS PAGE 125 SENATE REEONVENES PAGE l25 . COMMITTEE REPORT: PAGE 329 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 330