... Members be at their desks, and wtll our guests in the gallery please rise. Prayer this afternoon by Father Hugh Cassidy, Blessed Sacrament Church, Springfield, Illinois. Pather. FATHER HUGH CASSIDY: I (Prayer by Father Hugh Cassidy) 1 PRESIDENT ROCK; I Thank youz Father. Reading of the Journal, Madam Secretary .
Senate Journal of Tuesday, December 1; Wednesday, Deeember 2: and Thursday, Deeember 3, 1992.
Senator Hall.
Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Mr. President, I move that the Journals just read by the Secretary be approved, unless some Senator has additions or correetions to offer.
You 've heard the motion as placed by Senator Hall. Is there any discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The motion carries, and it is so ordered. Message from the Secretary of State. )
To the Honorable President of the Senate: Sir - In compliance with provisions of the Constitution of Illinois, I am forwarding herewith the enclosed Senate bill that is returned by the Governor with specific recommendations for change. Senate Bill 186. Respectfully, George H . Ryan, Seeretary of State.
l STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 i That Message Will be placed on the -- on the Calendar, i Secretary 's Desk. Messages from the House.
A Message from the House by Mr. O'Brien, Clerk. j i Mr. President - I am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has refused to adopt the First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1803 and requests a Second Committee of Conference to consider the differences between the tWo Houses in regard to Amendment No. 1. Action taken by the House, December 2, 1992.
Senator Carroll Will move that the Senate accede to the request of the House for a second conference committee. A11 in favor of that motion, indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The motion carries, and the Senate does accede to the request of the House. Resolutions.
Senate Resolution 1671 offered by President Rock. Senate Resolution 1672 offered by Senator Severns. Senate Resolution 1673 offered by Senator Smith and a11 Members. Senate Resolution 1674 offered by Senator Leverenz. Senate Resolution 1675 offered by Senator -- Senators Berman, I Marovitz, Cullerton, President Rock and a1l Members. Senate Resolution 1676 offered by Senator Di Turi and a1l Mgmbers. Senate Resolution 1677 offered by Senator Di Turi and al1 Members. Senate Resolution 1678 offered by Senator O 'Daniel. Senate Resolution 1679 offered by Senator Jacobs. Senate Resolution 1680 offered by Senator Holmberg. ! SenateResolution1681offeredbySenatorJacobs. j 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 Senate Resolution 1682 offered by Senator Di Turi and a11 Members. Senate Resolutions 1683 and 1684 offered by Senator Di Turi and a1l Members. Senate Resolution 1685 offered by Senator Lechowicz, President Rock and all Members. Senate Resolution 1686 offered by Senator Lechowicz, Senator Topinka, President Rock and all Members. i I Senate Resolution 1687 offered by Senator Carroll. Senate Resolution 1688 offered by Senator Carroll and a11 Members. Senate Resolution 1689 offered by Senator Topinka. Senate Resolutions 1690, 1691, 1692, 1693, 1694, 1695, 1696 and 1697 offered by Senator Topinka. Senate Resolution 1698 (and 1699) offered by Senator Carroll i and a11 Members. Senate Resolutions 1700 through 1707 offered by Senator Philip and a11 Members. Senate Resolution -- pardon me, 1708 offered by Senator Rea. (Senate Resolution 1709 offered by Senator Rea.) ' Senate Resolution 1710 offered by Senator Rea . Senate Resolution 1711 offered by Senator Woodyard. ' Senate Resolution 1712 offered by Senator Woodyard . And Senate Resolution 1713 offered by Senator Woodyard. ' They are all congratulatory and death resolutions. (Resolutions within parentheses submitted, but inadvertently ! not read into record.)
Consent Calendar. Senator Weaver, do you wish to pursue your motion? Motions in Writing , Madam Secretary .
I move to discharge the Colnmittee on Executive from further 3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TM NSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 consideration of the House Joint Resolution 168y for the purpose of ilmnediate consideration. Offered by Senator Weaver.
Senator Weaver .
Thank youz Mr. President . House Jolnt Resolution l68 T 've talked to many of you about2 and it is in regard to the Board of Higher Education suggesting to institutions of higher education Statewide that they abandon certain eourses of instruction that their board of trustees have approved - they 've been approved by the Higher Board . In essence, What the Higher Board ls to do is to review these programs at each institution throughout thè years and make recommendations. So this is basically sayin:# stick with the ability that you 've been given by the Statutes to make recolnmendations to the board of trustees. If anyone has any question about this - I was looking for -- I tried to get a hold of the Chairman. I guess he's not on the Floor, but I have talked to Senator Demuzio, and everyone in -- who represents an institution of higher education, I believe, and they're co-sponsors .
Al1 right. The Gentleman has moved to discharge the Committee on Executive from further consideration of House Joint Resolution l68y and asks for its immediate consideration . Discussion on the motion? If not, all in favor of the Motlon to Dischargey indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it, and the motion carries . Senator Weaver , on House Joint Resolution 168.
Thank youw Mr. President. I explained the House joint resolution . If anyone has any questions , I '11 be happy to try to answer them. PRESTDENT ROCK J 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2z 1993 A11 right. The Gentleman has moved the adoption of House Joint Resolution 168. Is there any discussion? If not, all in favor, ! indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The motion -- the motion carries, and the resolution is adopted. Senator Smith, for What purpose do you rise? I
Mr. President, I was asking - did we get a -- each get a copy of that resolution on our desks?
I Will make sure that's done, yes. If I can have the attention of the Body, WCIA-TV and Illinois Public Radio have requested permission to shoot some videotape and to record the Session, respectively. And a photographer from Pioneer Press requests leave to take some photographs. Without objection, leave is granted. Resolutions.
Senate Resolution 1714 offered by Senator Demuzio and a1l Members. Senate Resolutions 1715 and 1716 offered by Senator Demuzio and al1 Members. And Senate Resolution 1717 offered by Senator Topinka. They are a11 congratulatory.
i Consent Calendar. Senator Geo-Karis, for what purpose do you I i rise?
Mr . President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate , there will be a Republican Caucus inlmediately in Senator James ''Pate'' Philip 's Office .
A1l right. That request is in order. Ladies and Gentlemen, if I can have your attention . There has been a request for a 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENEM L ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 Republican Caucus immediately in Senator Philip 's Office . The House has scheduled a memorial service for former Speaker Redmond at 2 o 'clock . Senator Philip and I, and I 'm sure all of you y have been invited to attend the service over in the House. We have -- based on our meeting this morning and prior meetings with the Governor : we have less than a dozen items to consider: some of which will be coming from the House . And so my suggestion is that we stand in recess until the hour of 3 o 'clock . Hopefully by that time , the paper will have been processed and we can -- we have , in lï ly judgment: less than a hour's work, once we get it a1l together. So we will stand in recess until the hour of 3 o'clock. The memorial service for Speaker Redmond is at 2 o 'clock in the House # and the Republicans will caueus immediately in Senator Philip 's Office . Senate will stand in recess until the hour of 3 o 'clock . (RECESS) (SENATE RECONVENES)
The hour of 3 having arrived, the Senate will please come to order. I would ask a11 the Members who are attending meetings or in their offices to please join us on the Floor. It is the Chair's intent, With concurrence by the House Leadership and the Senate Leadership, that ble Will be adjourning sine die at the elose of today's business. And so, those who wish to have matters eonsidered, I would encourage you to please join us on the Floor. There are a couple of conference committee reports at page 19 on the Calendar that Members have indicated they Wish to pursue . In addition to thatz the Secretary has distrlbuted a Supplemental 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSTON SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 Calendar Supplemental Calendar No. - reflecting late House action on Senate bills: and also containing Senator Maitland's Motion to Accept the Specific Recommendations of the Governor. We expect there probably will be at least one - maybe tWo - additional Supplemental Calendars, but we're going to try to handle our business with some dispatch. Messages from the House.
A Message from the House by Mr. O'Brien, Clerk. Mr. President - T am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has eoncurred with the Senate in the passage of a bill of the following title, to wit: Senate Bill 1045, together with House Amendments l and 2. Passed the House, as amended, January 12, 1993. have like Messages on Senate Bill 1641, together with House Amendment No. and Senate Bill 2177, together with House Amendments and 3.
Secretary 's Desk, Concurrence. Resolutions.
Senate Resolution 1718 offered by Senator Demuzio. (Secretary reads SR No. 1718)
Senator Demuzio.
Mr. President, Ladles and Gentlemen of the Senate, that is the resolution thatg in fact, appoints the committee to approve the final Journals. have a letter in front of me from Senator Vadalabene that is appointing the committees. would move its adoption. Move to suspend the rules for the immediate consideration and adoption.
7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 A11 right. The Gentleman has moved to suspend the rules for the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Resolution 1718. Discussion on the Motion to Suspend? If not, a11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The rules are suspended. Senator Demuzio now moves the adoption of Senate Resolution 1718. Diseussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have it, and the resolution is i adopted. Resolutions.
Senate Resolution 1719 offered by President Rock and a1l i Members. Senate Resolution 1920 Ksicl (1720) offered by Senator Donahue. Senate Resolution 1721 offered by Senator Ralph Dunn. Senate Resolution 1722 offered by Senator Ralph Dunn. Senate Resolution 1723 offered by Senator Ralph Dunn. And Senate Resolutions 1724 and 1725, both offered by Senator Topinka. They ire all congratulatory and death resolutions.
Consent Calendar. With leave of the Body, the State Journal-Register has asked permission to shoot some still photographs. Without objection, leave is granted. Committee Reports. SECRETARY HAWKER: k i Pursuant to Senate rule -- Senate Resolution 1718, the I i following Members are appointed as a Committee to approve the final Journals of the Senate of the 87th General Assembly : Senators Rockz Demuzio, Severns, Philip and Davidson. Very truly yours , Senator Sam Vadalabene , Chairman of the Committee on Colnmlttees .
8 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 A1l right. Wlcs-channel 20 and WAND-TV have both requested ! permission to videotape. Without objection, leave is granted. j Al1 right. Ladies and Gentlemen# if I can direct your attention ! to Supplemental Calendar No. 1. Senator Maitland, Specific Recommendations - do you wish to pursue that? On the Order of Supplemental Senate Calendar No. 1, there is a Motion in Writing with respect to Senate Bill 186. Madam Secretary, read the motion, please.
I move to accept the specific recommendations of the Governor as to Senate Bill 186, in manner and form as follows: Amendment to Senate Bill l86 in Acceptance of Governor's Recommendations Filed by Senator Maitland.
Senator Maitland.
Thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Senate Bill l86 was a Conference Committee Report that we passed out of here in December, and with respect to one of the components of *hat Conference Conmllttee Report, itz was a -- the issue was a ! matter of timing. And because of the lateness of the time in which we did it, We 've found that that -- that language Was not going to work . The Governor 's 0ffice and the Department of Revenue caught this mistake and therefore the Governor has made this suggestion . And I would *herefore, Mr. President g move that the Senate do accept the specific recommendations for change as suggested by the Governor .
A11 right. The Gentleman has moved to accept the specifie recommendations of the Governor as to Senate Bill 186 . Is there any discussion? If not, the question is# shall the Senate accept 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT l 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 ' 1 ! the specific recommendations of the Governor as to Senate Bill 186: in the manner and form just stated by Senator Maitland. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay. And the votin: is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? A11 voted who Wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 53 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. The specific recommendations of the Governor as to Senate Bill 186, having received the required constitutional majority vote of Senators elected, are declared accepted. ...tmachine cutoffl... Ladies and Gentlemen, if I can direct your attention to page 19 on the Calendar. Page 19 on the Calendar. We dve had a request from at least two Members to go to the Order of Conference Committee Reports with respect to Senate Bill 250 and With respect to Senate Bill 1345. Senator Watson, for what purpose do you arise, sir? SENATOR WATSON : Well, thank you, Mr. President. Point of personal privilegey please. PRESIDENT ROCK: State your point: please. SENATOR WATSON: Well, as the Membership knows, each year we have an annual tennis tournament, and this year we were belated in getting our trophies for the Winners of the particular tournament, but they just arrived yesterday. So I wanted to presene ehose eoday to ehe receiving Members on the Senate Floor. The Southwestern Illinois Industrial Association, which Bob Walters, a former Representative, is the executive director, hosts this tournament each year, and many Members participate and We always have a good time, and we appreciate Bob and hls group hosting that event for us. But this particular trophy's going to go to a retiring Member. one who has participated in the tournament: I believe, since its beginning, and one who has -- has won this trophy ! 10 % STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 several times before. And we're going to miss him in the tournament. We certainly welcome him to come back at any time in the future. He 's been an outstanding Member of this Body for many years, also a former Member of the House, Cal Schuneman. And I'd like to present Cal Schuneman With the trophy for winning the Legislative Tennis Tournament this year.
Senator Schuneman.
Well, thank you, Mr. President. This is certainly an honor and a most unexpected pleasure, especially in view of the fact that I think we lost every game in that tournament. So but the Legislative Tennis Tournament has always had rules that are not generally accepted, and this year I'm thankful for
Al1 right. Madam Secretaryy Members, if I can direct your attention again to page 19 on the Calendar. On the Order of Conference Committee Reports, Senator Berman has requested that we go to Senate Bill 250. Senator Cullerton has requested that we go to Senate Bill 1345. If any other Member has something they wish to pursue, please let the Chair know. On the Order of Conference Committee Reports, there's a Report with respect to Senate Bill 250, Madam Secretary.
Second Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 250.
Senator Berman.
Thank you -- thank youy Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senate Bill 250 has come to us as a result of a number of requests from communities in Chicago - and underline that this bill only applies to Chicago - where homeowners and 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 ! l ! residents of communities want to take legal action against unsafe i or dangerous buildings that happen to be adjacent or down the block from them. And What this blll does, in some small but important way, is to allow that kind of community activity to make I ! 1 the communitles more livable by allowing them to file lawsuits seeking the orders to compel owners to repair unsafe or dangerous buildings and to waive the filing fee requirements for those I lawsults. As I indiûated, it's lkmited to Chkcago only. Be glad to respond to any questions, and I solicit your Aye vote. l
Al1 right. The Gentleman has moved the adoption of the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 250. Is there any I l discussion? Senator Hawkinson.
Thank you, Mr. President. Will the sponsor yield for a I : question?
Sponsor indicates he will yield, Senator Hawkinson. ! .
Senatorg it seems like in one of our committees last spring we had a similar effort, if not directly this effort, and one question I recall at the time having over this procedure was if, perchance, a frivolous lawsuit or an harassing lawsuit Without i basis in fact is filed by one citizen against another owner of a building, and it turns out that the -- there is no nuisance to be abated, buE that Ehe owner of the building has Eo come in, pay attorneys and defend and so forth - does this bill, in any wayz remove the possibility of sanctions being filed against someone ! Who files that kind of harassing or frivolous complaint?
Senator Berman. SENATORBERMAN: 1 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2# 1993 The bill does not address that at all, and let me indicate that it's this sponsor's legislative intent that the sanctions that would exist for any improper, frivolousr nonmeritorious litigation would apply to this lawsuit, just like any other. All we're doing here is to allow the plaintiffs to get in the courthouse door a little easier. That's all.
Further discussion? If not, the questlon is, shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 250. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. And the voting is open. Al1 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? Take the record. On that questionr there are 54 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. The Senate does adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 250. And the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senator Cullerton, on 1345. Madam Secretary. On page 19 on the Calendar, Ladies and Gentlemen, at the bottom of the page, on *he Order of Conference Committee Reports, there 's a Report with respect to Senate Bill 1345. Madam Secretary.
Second Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1345.
Senator Cullerton.
Yes, thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. This Conference Committee Report passed the House, I believe, 91 to 3 last moneh when we were in Session, and we were unable to get to it at that time. What -- the legislation amends Section 19.6 of the Revenue Act, and it's meant to resolve an ambiguity regarding the taxation of municipal property which is leased to private entities. And what the b1ll does is to elarify that such property is subject to the leasehold taxe unless the lease expressly 13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2# 1993 provides that the property would be subject to regular real estate taxes. The situation arises where a municipality entered into a lease With a private entity, With the understanding that the entity would be taxed under leasehold of State, and the municipality had filed for an exemption from the -- the State. But they also threw ln the lease kind of a catchall phrase saying that the tenant shall be responsible for a11 taxes, and the Department of Revenue had interpreted that Section to negate the intent of the parties, that -- to be that the tenant would only be responsible for the leasehold taxes. So what this does is to clarify that the presumption is that the property is subject to the leasehold tax. If, however, the municipality wishes to state in the lease that the property is subject to regular real estate taxes, that certainly is their contractual right to do so. I thlnk it makes sense. I did run this provision by the assessor's office up in Cook County to make sure they had no objections. The City of Chicago has no objections. And as I indicated, it passed the House 91 to 3. It simply stands for the proposition that the municipally owned leaseholds should be taxed as leaseholds.
Al1 right. The Gentleman has maved the adoption of the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1345. Discussion? Senator Rigney.
I'd like to ask a couple of questlons of the sponsor.
Sponsor indicates he will yield, Senator Rigney.
Isn't it true that we've got over a milllon dollars riding on this particular issue, as things stand rlght now?
Senator Cullerton. I 14 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2# 1993 i I I SENATOR CULLERTON: 1 ! Well, if you're talking about the specific situation that prompted the bill, I don't know what the -- the amount of the taxes are. I can tell you this: that no taxes - no property taxes - were paid. The issue is in litigation. The municipality i thought that the leasehold taxes ought to be paid - not the full property taxes. And that is what the difference is. So there -- there still will -- I ean't imagine the difference between the l j leasehold tax and the real property taxes are a million dollars. That might be the total tax bill, but not the difference between the two .
Senator Cullerton. Oh, I'm sorry. Senator Rigney.
A11 I know here, based upon some material I've received on our side of the aisle, is that there's a substantial body of opposition to this, and unless something has changed, it appears that the Municipal League, the Township Officials and some others are opposed to this particular piece of legislation. And as you have stated, Mr. Sponsor, it does appear that this is in court and - - in Cook County, and can be decided that way, rather than to come in here on the last day of our Session with something that i has never come before our Revenue Committee. So Ifve got a 1ot of doubts as to whether we ought to be taking this kind of action this late in the Session.
Further discussion? Senator Macdonald.
Thank you, Mr. President. I rlse ln support of this bill. I Was the one that questioned this bill, and I think was one of the reasons that Senator Cullerton did not go through with this bill when we were here in December. Since that time, I have called and 15 I STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 I talked to Mayor Rotchford, who is ehe mayor of Prospect Heights. l I have talked tc the owners of the airport. I have not, as yet, been able to reaeh the mayor of Wheeling. But I think that this was inadvertently left out of the original contract, and that is wherein all the problem lay. This is a municipal airport. I don't believe that -- that property taxes should be charged in this way, and as far as I am concernedy I am supporting this particular piece of legislation for Palwaukee Airport in my district. PRESIDENT ROCK: I Further discussion? Senator Carroll. SENATOR CARROLL: Question of the sponsor. Thank you, Mr. President. A question was raised by the Water Reclamation District as to Whether or not these provisions might apply to their leasehold interests. Would you care to comment? PRESIDENT ROCK: j Senator Cullerton. SENATOR CULLERTON: Right. Yes, thank you, Senator. First of all, I did talk with representatives of the Water Reclamation District. Their first concern, quite frankly, was whether or not there were going to have to be any refunds, and this bill was, I believe, carefully drafted so that the bill would -- the retroactive provisions would 4 only apply to one situation, and that Was a situation Where no taxes were actually paid. So this would not bring about any refunds. And secondlyy this legislation amends Section 19.6 of the Revenue Act, which talks about the taxation of municipal-owned property. And so I believe it does not affect their leases. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Carroll. SENATOR CARROLL: 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY FEGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 ! Thank you , Mr. President. So. Senator Cullertone we can say, E for the record, that it is not the intent of this legislation to affect the leases of the Water Reclamation District of Greater ! Chicago. !
Senator cullerton. ! ;
That's correct. PRESIDENT ROCK ! : ! @ Further discussion? Senator Butler.
1, tooz rise in support of this bill. It is a very I ! site-specific billz in most respects. It corrects an error that , was in a contraet, and I think, in the final analysis, it really will apply only to this one specific incident. So I would urge this Body to vote Aye. :
Further discussion? Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you. I concur With What Senator Butler Said, also. I I ; think if any of us had a constituent that had a similar problem I such as this, we would want it addressed in the manner that this i i E is. I see no danger in voting for this bill.
Any further discussion? Further dlscussion? Senator Cullerton, you wish to close?
l Yes. Thank you, Mr. Presidentz Members of the Senate. I just wanted to emphasize that this is something which any city in the State of Illinois should be in favor of. This gives them the j option - continues to give them the option - to structure their E leases any way they want, Whether or not they want to have that 17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 property that they lease taxed as a leasehold tax or taxed as real ! property, but it does provide that the presumption would be a leasehold tax so that their original intent is not going to be i ! thwarted by some interpretation later on by the Department of Revenue. Soy for that reason, I think it's a good provision, and would ask for an Aye vote. I
Question is, shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1345. Those in favor Will vote Aye. 1 ! I Opposed: vote Nay. And the voting is open. A11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 49 Ayes, 2 Nays, l voting Present. The Senate does adopt the Conference ë Committee Report on Senate Bill 1345, and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. On Supplemental Senate Calendar No. 1, Madam Secretary, we fll move I ! to the Order of Secretary's Desk, Coneurrence. There are three Senate bills which the House today amended and sent back to us. ... tmachine cutoff)...45. 1641. Senator Cullerton. On the Order of Secretary's Desk, Concurrence, Supplemental Calendar No. 1, ; Senate Bill 1641, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKER: 1 ; i House Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 1641. !
Senator Cullerton.
Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. This Motion ! to Concur - and I would move to concur with the House amendments - the House amendment is identical to Senate Bill 1950, which passed the Senate 52 to 6. The Governor amendatorily vetoed that bill by d I simply adding an immediate effective date. I believe Senator Donahue was the sponsor of that bill. And the Senate accepted the 18 STATE 0P ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 amendatory veto. Unfortunately, in the House, the House sponsor failed to call the motion for a vote. So, as a result, the bill died. So a11 this is, is the same thing as Senate Bill 1950, which the Senate passed. It deals with -- one provision deals with the Lottery, which would prohibit Lottery sales agents from @ chargin: a fee to redeem a winning tickety Which was a practice that the Lottery was concerned about. It also makes some minor adjustments to the Raffles Act, the Pull Tabs and Jar Games Act and the Charitable Games Act. I know of no opposition, and I would move to concur with the House amendments. I ! ( PRESTDENT ROCK: The Gentleman has moved to concur with House Amendment No . 3 to Senate Bill 1641. Discussion? Senator Donahue. SENATOR DONAHUE: I I Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. 1 Very quickly, I concur in what the Senator has just said. This is -- was a snafu in the House. Wefve passed it over a couple of times. They just didnlt get it filed, and I Would move for its concu rrence . PRESIDENT ROCK: Further discussion? Further discussion? If not. the question is, shall the Senate concur in House Amendment No. 3 to Senate ! Bill 1641. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vcte Nay. And ! ! the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 53 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. The Senate does concur with House Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 1641, and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. 2177. Senator Welch. Madam Secretary, please. SECRETARY HAWKER: I 1 HouseAmendmentsland3toSenateBill2177. j 1 19 k .- STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993
Senator Welch.
Thank you, Mr. President. Senate Bill 2177 does not do what it says on the Supplemental Calendar. The bill really has nothing to do with the Pesticide Act. What the bill will do is create the Employee Commute Options Act. This is a result of the Federal Clean Air Act. Under the Federal Clean Air Act, the State of Illinois has been mandated to reduce urban air pollution from mobile sources by submitting a State implementation plan for an employee trip-reduction program. And the way the State of Illinois is going to do this is as follows: Since Chicago was designated by the Unlted States EPA as a severe nonattainment area for ozone, we have to file a State implementation plan. Due to delay in issuance of the federal guidelines, the complete State implementation plan submittal date was delayed in lieu of a committal State implementation plan. A commitment has been made by the State to comply with the U .S. EPA final rules: which have not been drawn up as of this date. The program is going to be administered by the Department of Transportation, not by the Department of -- Envlronmental Protection Agency. Currently, the law does not exist -- there does not exist in the law any funding mechanism for the implementation, but by 1aw the Department of Transportation is prohibited from using any road funds from -- for this program. This bill has been agreed to by the Environmental Protection Agency, the City of Chicago, the Department of Transporkakion and khe AFL-CTO, which had objected ko passing *he bill last month. The -- there is still some opposition from the Chicago Lung Association on the basis that it is inconsistent With the federal guidelines issued in December by the U.S. EPA , but there are still preliminary negotiations going one as far as definitions. The program is going to require employers With over 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION VENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 one hundred employees to comply in the reduction of their traffic coming to their business during the morning peak travel period , which is 6 a.m . to 10 a.m., by having employers of one hundred or more employees at a worksite implement a program to encourage multiple-employee vehicle occupancy. The program Will be implemented by each employer submitting a plan to the State Department of Transportation. The State Department of Transportation can approve or reject the plan. If they reject the plan, they give a notice to the employer. The employer can appeal, and then the decision can be appealed to a normal circuit court proceeding. If note the Department of Transportation can impose penalties or injunctive relief. We have some questions and answers that need to be read lnto the reeord for legislative intent. And I'd be glad to do that at this time. think that may explain the bill even further.
Al1 right. The Gentleman has moved that the Senate concur in House Amendments and to Senate Bill 2177. Discussion? Senator Macdonald.
Thank you, Mr. President. rise in support of these amendments. And I would like to say that while there may be some problems with this, in the time that We adjourned for our caucuses, I had numerous people approach me - different businesses to say that it was imperative for us to go forward with this particular piece of legislation at this time. So I thlnk, in the best intgresk for the demands of the Federal Government and what we are mandated to do, that this is the very best blll ehat we can come up with. If there are problems in the future, they will have to be worked out. But at this particular time, it is very important for us to go forward with this piece of legislation.
21 ; STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 Further discussion? Senator Watson. i ! SENATOR WATSON: Yes, thank you, Mr. President. The sponsor mentioned about *he orchestraeed question and answers, and T've got the questions, and I understand he has the answers. I'd like to deviate from this just a moment, Senator, and ask you a particular question about the impact that this has on what countles. I donlt believe you mentioned that, and I would like to know if Madison and St. j I Clair County are impacted in thisy because they do have ozone testing there of auto emissions in the metro-east area. Are they impacted? PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH: Senator Watson, my understanding is that the counties impacted are in the Chicagoland areay not in Madison or St. Clair Counties. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Watson. SENATOR WATSON: Yes, thank you, Senator. That's my understanding also. Now I will go ahead and proceed with the questions. Senator, for legislative purposes: may I ask a few questions? k PRESIDENT ROCK: : ! Gentleman indicates he will yield, Senator Watson. SENATOR WATSON: On page 2, Section 10: in the definition of ''average passenger occupancyl', the drafters use the term ''arriving''. Is that term ''arriving'' meant to be ''physically'' reaching the designation <sic> 5 at the Worksite? PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH : 22 i STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 No, it means that the employee is presenting himself or 1 herself for work that day. In other Words, to submit himself or herself for work under the jurisdiction of that worksite during the peak travel time. 1 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) : Senator Watson. SENATOR WATSON: Thank you. So, let me give you an example: Employer X in its ! g : compliance plan has offered telecommunicatin: xsicl for Y number of employees. Those employees are to ''arrive'î at the worksite between the hours of 6 a.m. to 10 a.m., which under the draft is the peak travel period -- under this particular draft is the peak I I 5 travel period. Are those employees to be calculated under the APO : definition even though they are working at home under this ' telecommunicating <sic> transportation demand strategy? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) I i Senator Welch. i SENATOR WELCH: Xes, those employees are presenting themselves for Work under an authorized transportation demand strategy for APO calculations. PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Watson. SENATOR WATSON: I On page 3, Section 10 of the amendment, which is now the bill, under the definition of 'lworksite' it states: Worksite means a i i ! building ar group of buildings located wiEhin an affected area which are kn actual physical contact or separated only by a private or public roadway or other private or public right-of-way, and which are owned, operated, or leased by the same employer or j by employers under a common control. Does thls definition E include, let's say, a McDonald's Corporation in Oak Brook, which has a multitude of buildings - in a cluster - if you would, 23 i I STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 separated by more than one private roadway, but clearly in an immediate area of each other as a possible one worksite?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch.
Yes, it is clearly the intent of the drafters and the General Assembly that it is McDonald 's option to include a11 of those buildings in that area as one worksite, or to separate each building and treat each building as an individual worksite: pursuant to this Act, or for that matter, to combine one or more buildings as one worksite and the remaining building or buildings as another worksite.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Watson.
What if a corporation has a cluster of buildings clearly in the immediate area of each other but separated by more than one public roadway and more than one private roadway?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch.
It is the intent of the drafters and the General Assembly that, at the option of the corporation, each building ean be treated under this Act as an individual worksite or as one worksite, or a group of buildings as one worksite.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Watson.
On page 4, Section 20, paragraph (d), it requires an affected employer to return a completed APO survey to the Department. Since an employer cannoe require eaeh employee to fill out a voluntary survey form, how are employees who do not inform the 24 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12# 1993 employer how he or she arrives at the worksite to be calculated by an affected employer?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch.
For purposes of calculating the APO under Section 20(d), the affected employer will treat those employees who do not complete the survey proportionate to the employees that did complete the survey. In other wordsy if an affected employer has seventy percent of its employees filling out the survey: and half of the employees drive by themselves to work, then the survey submitted to the Department will treat one-half of the remaining thirty percent of the employees who did not complete the internal corporate surveys as having driven to work by themselves. We are calling it ''drive alonel'.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Watson.
On page 5, Section 25, you set up a procedure for calculating the naverage vehicle occupancyl' for *he affected area . Do you have any ideas as to that potential AVO?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch.
Yes, in a letter from the Chicago Area Transportation Study Commissions to Secretary of Transportation Kirk Brown on November 25, 1992, the Executive Director stated - I quotel 'Q he Chicago AVO is 1.169, suburbs 1.1285 and overall for the region 1.1421, representing a 3.46 percent differential.''
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Watson.
25 I STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 On page 5, Section I beg your pardon. On page 5, Section 30, paragraph (b) <sic>, the draft states that an affected employer may elect to comply with the provisions of the Act by pareicipating and then to go on - does the word ''may'' in *he first line of that subseetion mean it's totally at the discretion of the affected employer? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH: Yes, it does. The Department cannot make an -- affected employer participate in a consolidated compliance plan. It's the sole discretion of the affected employer. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Watson. SENATOR WATSON: On page 7, Section 45, paragraph (a), it reads that each affected employer shall submit a compliance plan, and then it sets out a time frame. If the affected employer has shown that <sic> its ''renewal survey'' that has reached an APO of at least a hundred and twenty-five percent of the AVO and described in its renewal survey the transportation demand management strategies it will utilize in maintaining that AP0 - does the affected employer still have to file a f'renewal compliance plan'' under Section 45, also? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH: No. is the intent that the renewal survey will be treated just as the original survey description under Section 20(d). The affected employer will not have to file a renewal compliance plan. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Watson. 26 i STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 SENATOR WATSON: Lastly, I would like to discuss the intent of Section l3, paragraph (f) on page 8. That subsection is describing the maximum agqreqate total amount of fees to which an affected employer shall be subject. This bill states that the fee shall be no greater than ten thousand dollars for the initial filing of the survey and five thousand dollars for each subsequent biennial fili 1 n: for employees of five or more worksites. Let me give you a couple of examples - hypothetically. If the Hyatt Corporation has six hotels in the affected area, what is the maximum fee? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH: Under that scenarioz the Hyatt Corporation will pay ten thousand dollars for the initial fillng of the survey, and five thousand dollars for each subsequent filing of the survey. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Watson. SENATOR WATSON: What if it would be the Jewel Company with one hundred stores? PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) I Senator Welch. 1 SENATOR WELCH: The answer would be the same. They Would pay ten thousand dollars for the initial filing of the survey, and five thousand dollars for each subsequent filing of the survey. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Watson. SENATOR WATSON: HoW about Northwestern University With, let's say, ten worksites? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 27 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 Senator Welch. . SENATOR WELCH: j The answer would be the same. !
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Watson.
How about McDonald's With two hundred Worksites in an affected area? I
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch.
The answer Would be the same. I
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Watson.
Lastly, how about the City of Chicago and, let's say, one hundred worksites, Which include police precinctsy streets, sanitation sites? 0r for that mattery the County of Dupage, which I may have more than five worksites?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) I Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH: ! Each affected employer, whether it be the County of Dupage, Cook County, Northwestern Universityz the City of Chicago, McDonald 's, Edison, the Hyatt Corporation or even the United States Federal Government, or whatever, is completely capped at the maximum. Each affected employer will pay no greater than ten ! thousand dollars for the initial filing of the survey, and five thousand dollars for each subsequent biennial filings.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Watson. ! i SENATOR WATSON: I 1 I 28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 Thank youz Senator, for your cooperation.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Al1 right. Further discussion? Senator Palmer.
1 Thank youz Mr. President. A question of the sponsor. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) i Indicates he will yield. Senator Palmer.
Senator Welch, I'm looking at our analysis, and it indicates that there is opposition from the Chicago Lung Association, because it is their sense that this language is inconsistent with the federal guidelines issued in December by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Is there a reason that We have to pass this today? Will there be any consequences, if any, if we do not pass the bill today?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch.
Senator, my understanding -- that we are already tardy in passing this legislation, and currently the U.S. Government could impose sanctions upon the State, particularly wlthholding money from our transportation plan, should we not pass legislation to do this.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Palmer. Al1 right. Further discussion? Senator Fawell.
Thank you very much. Will the sponsor yield for a question?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Indicates he will yield. Senator Fawell.
Senator, are we talking about a two-zone bill here? I 29 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch.
No, Senator, just one zone.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Fawell.
Well, according to our analysis, it says here that -- provides for a one-zone plan on the condition that the difference between the reduction target, known as the 'average vehicle occupancydv under a one-zone is no greater than ten percent higher than the average vehicle occupancy under a two-zone plan. Should the difference be greater than ten percent and a two-zone plan be required, the City of Chicago would be designated as one zone and the remaining affected area suburban Cookz Dupage, Kane, Lake, McHenry, Will and portions of Grundy and Kendall - would be designated as a separate zone. Is that true or not true?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch.
Senator, what you said is true. The bill initially, though, provides for one zone, and it provides for a one-zone plan on the condition that the difference between the reduction target under a one-zone plan is no greater than ten percent hiqher than the AVO under a two-zone plan. So it's initially intended to be one zone.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Fawell.
Is there ever any way that a county such as Dupage, which has been in compliance now with the air emissions testing for the past three years and has had no violations whatsoever for the past three years, can ever get out from underneath this thing? Or are 30 i STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 We stuck forever with this? PRESIDING OEPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH: I think that under the Clean Air Act, the entire Chicagoland area is designated as a noncompliance area . And for that reason, a1l the counties in the Chicagoland area are grouped together ! . I They haven 't differentiated, I don't believee based on the borders : : of Cook County or the borders of the City of Chicago as to where the pollution is created. It is anticipated that -- and I believe that the purpose of including the metropolitan area is that I commuters begin in the suburban counties, travel along the l k highways through the City of Chicago, and the cars from the suburbs come into one major grouplng in the downtown area, which happens to be in Cook County. So if you include reduction of air pollution in the City of Chieago, in order to do that, you have to start out with where the cars come from, and the majority, or a 1 ! great number of cars, come from the suburban area. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Cullerton. i SENATOR CULLERTON: 4 Yes, thank you, Mr. President. Senator Welch, during your dialogue With Senator Watson, I had an opportunity to read the analysis, and I found it interesting - the issue of whether or not wedre in compliance right now, if we are under the gun, you know, I I with the Clean Air Act. It turns out that we were supposed to pass a State implementation plan by November 15th, but that the U.S. EPA did not even issue their final guidelines until December. And as a result of their guidelines, they delayed this submittal date, and they said that they want a commitment by the State to i ! comply with the final rules and a committal Staee implementation plan within twenty-four months after they promulgate their final 31 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 ! ! rules. So that, as a result, there really isn't a great need to rush into this proposal. And then further, the analysis indicates that the U.S. EPA admits that it erred in preliminarily approving proposed definitions of ''AVO'' and ''APOH and ''vehicle'' and that that, however, is included in this draft of this bill. And that's one of the reasons why the -- the Chicago Lung Association opposed the language -- that they said that the EPA eould end up looking at this proposaly saying that it watered down the original intent - - the intent of the original legislation, and that this might be rejected by the U.S. EPA, and the State would then fall further behind in its efforts to implement the Clean Air Act. So I wanted to give you an opportunity to address those concerns, because that appears to be a major objection to the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. Further discussion? Al1 right. If not, Senator Welch may close.
Well let me just say that definitions issued by the United States EPA - in response to Senator Cullerton's question - were admitted by the U.S. EPA to have been in error. They are correcting those, and we believe that they will be corrected aceording to the guidelines set forth in this legislation - it is my understanding. There was a deadline of November 15th the EPA imposed. However, the sanctions, I think, are going to come over road funds, not on environmental funds, coming to the State. So there's a difference between the two departments. The Federal Clean Air Act is somethinq that we have to comply with, and I know that the Chicago Lung Association is opposed to it. Howevery I do believe that the -- we have received support of the State EPA and -- and the AFL-CIO and some other groups. A number of the business groups support it. Since the Clean Air Act is -- is brand new in 1992, what welre looking at is a number of different 1 . 32 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 states tryin: to comply with that Clean Air Actz and every state is stuttering as they qo forward. What we hope here is to get this on the books, start the State in compliance, and I think it would be easier to amend the bill later, rather than hold it up and not have any bill on the books at all. I think that this is a step forward for the State of Illinois. It's an idea whose time ! I has come, and I think it's something that we should pass. And I would urge an Aye vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Question is, shall the Senate concur with House Amendments l and 3 to Senate Bill 2177. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed Will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. 0n that question, the Ayes are 37z the Nays are 9, none votinq Present. The Senate does concur with House Amendments l and 3 to Senate Bill 2177. And the bill: having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Messages from the House.
A Message from the House by Mr. O'Brien, Clerk. Mr. President - I am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has adopted the following joint resolution, in the adoption of which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senate, to wit: House Joint Resolution 169. It is a death resolution.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Consent Calendar.
A Message from the House by Mr. O'Brien, Clerk. Mr. President - I am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has concurred with the Senate in the 33 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislatkve Day January 12, 1993 passage of a bill of the following title, to wit: Senate Bill 2101, together with House Amendment No. 3. Passed the House, as amended, January 12, 1993. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Secretary's Desk. SECRETARY HAWKER: A Message from the House by Mr. O'Brien, Clerk. Mr. President - I am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has accepted the Governor's specific recommendations for change, which are attached, to a bill of the following title, in the adoption of which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senate, to wit: House Bill 3325. I am further instructed to deliver to you the objections of the Governor which are contained in the attached copy of his letter to the House of Representatives. Adopted by the House, January l2# 1993. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Thatdll al1 be on the next Supplemental. Resolutions. SECRETARX HAWKER: Senate Resolution 1726 offered by Senators Fawell, Karpiel, Philip, Topinka, Hudsony Mahar and Etheredge. And Senate Resolution 1727 offered by President Rock, Senator Philip and a11 Members. One is congratulatory and one is a death resolution. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Consent Calendar. SECRETARY HAWKER: And Senate Joint Resolution 196 offered by Senator Demuzio and a1l Members. It is congratulatory. 34 E STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENKTE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) i A11 right. Senator O 'Daniel moves the adoption of Senate Joint Resolution l96 -- moves to suspend the rules for immediate consideration and adoption. A11 in favor, indlcate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Rules are suspended . Senate Joint Resolution 196. All in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Senate Joint Resolution l96 - a congratulatory resolution - has been adopted. Just stand at ease for a moment. Wedll load the next Supplemental, momentarily. With ! leave of the Body, Supplemental Calendar No. 2 has been passed out. o.mtmachine cutoffl...Rock. Supplemental 2. All right. On the Order of Supplemental No. 2, Secretary's Desk, Concurrence, is Senate Bi11 2101. Senator Dart. Madam Secretary, please. Senate Bill 2101.
House Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 2101.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Dart.
Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Senate Bill 2101 is a bill which is similar to Senate Bill 250 l , which just ! passed, with a couple additional provisions. It has some provisions in there which deal solely With the City of Chicago, and it deals with the problems of the increasing number of abandoned houses that have been used by gangs for drug houses and the like. It deals With buildings that are an immediate hazard to the community, and it deals with expediting the process they can go throùgh for demolition. The bill itself is -- as I mentioned, I deals only with the City of Chicago. It is supported by the Chicago Realtors. It was supported by all the legislative leaders today, and it passed the House 96 to nothing. I could go on at length about this. I9d be available to answer any questions. But I 35 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 it's a very good bill, whlch is rather straightforward. It's i gotten unanimous support, and I ask for your support.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. Discussion? Senator Geo-Karis. Senator Geo-Karis. ;
Will the sponsor yield for a question?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Indicates he will yield. Senator Geo-Karis.
When this bill left the Senate, it related to raising the bid limits for khe City of Chicago from ten thousand to twenty-five thousand. Was that completely deleted and so forth?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Dart.
Been deleted. It's a11 gone.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Geo-Karis.
So all you're asking for then is the right to demolish the buildings and serve notice within a hundred and twenty days and go after them. Okay.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A1l right. Further discussion? Senator Smith.
Question to the sponsor, please.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) He indicates he will yield. Senator Smith.
Under the demolitions of these buildings, I have a case in point in my district. Lady had a building, and she had a brand 36 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 new back porch put on. And she was not notified that they Were I going to take her building down. What precautions are you taking i - measurements are you takinq - before you seek to tear these buildings down? Are you doing a thorough search to find out if i I anyone has those buildings are seeking tc renovate those buildings at all? 1
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Dart. SENATOR DART: I There's numerous notice provisions - particularly, there's three - in addition to the fact that these are buildings that have already gone through numerous notice provisions to the owners and i the like, and they have failed to respond to these. In addition to the ones that are already in the law, this adds three additional ones which would be a notice that would be placed on the doory publication and one other form of notice as well. There's plenty of notice given in this situation.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Smith.
Tbis lady has a case in court right now in Chicago, and she ; was repairing that building, and they tore the building down. And so my question to you is that - are you really going to -- are you I really, in doing -- tearing these buildings down, that you're going to investigate thoroughly...
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Dart. SENATOR SMITH: I .. . before doing such? Because I'd like to ask -- follow this ! : up With you personally. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) i Senator Dart. 37 BTATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993
Yes. There is going to be -- there 's going to be extensive notice procedures, and there'll be people investigating this at I length to make sure that there are -- nobody there. These are open and vacant buildings - no doors, no Windows on them - that are I vacant prior to it# and there's no one thatls been living in these buildings.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Smith. A1l right. Further discussion? Senator Dart I may close.
This is a very good bill that has been necessitated by a 1ot of the problems we've had with the vacant property throughout the City of Chicago. It's a good bill, and I'd ask for your support.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) The question is, shall the Senate concur with House Amendment 3 to Senate Bill 2101. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 53, the Nays are none, none voting Present. The Senate does concur With House Amendment 3 to Senate Bill 2101. And the blll, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Conference Committee Reports is House Bill 3188. Senator Jones. Madam Secretary, House Bill 3188, please.
First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3188.
PRESTDTNG OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Jones.
Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. The First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3188 is really a 38 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 i clean-up bill. It authorizes a real estate broker to employ both j buyer and agents and sellers -- agents in a single firm. It I clarifies the real estate license may be earned for a specific continuation education course only once during the renewal period, and it revises the grandfather exemption for the continuin: education provision Act. It is basically a clean-up bill, and I move that we adopt the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3188.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Is there discusslon? Senator Madigan.
Thank youy Mr. President. I would just like to point out to this side that I did not -- my signature does not appear on the Conference Committee Report, and while we were -- this Report was circulated and filed while We Were in caucus. And I have no problem with this language and would rise in support of the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3188.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A1l right. Is there further discussion? If not, the question is, shall the Senate adopt the First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3188. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have al1 voted Who Wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 53, the Nays are none, none voting Present. The Senate does adopt the First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3188. And the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. House Bill 1796. Senator Dunn. Senate Bill 1889. Senator Hall. Senator Hall. ...tmachine cutoffl...Dunn, do you wish to have this bill called? Senate Bill 1796, then, Madam Secretary.
First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1796. I 39 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 I l
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. Senator Dunn. !
Thank you, Mr. President. I yield to Senator Luft...the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Luft.
Thank you, Mr. President. The last time We were here in the fall there Was an agreement between the Governor's Office and the Legislative Bodies on TIF. Everybody Was on board . However, in the drafting of that Conference Committee Report, there were numerous errors that have been corrected - technical errors - in this Conference Committee Report, the biggest one of which - and the reason that We had to pass this noW - Was, in the earlier bill, it called for the distribution of the nine million dollars that was agreed upon for TIFs to be distributed by December 3l. Unfortunately, the Governor didn't sign the bill till after December 31. This allows now for a sixty-day from date of signing, which would be in the month of March, for the distribution of that nine million dollars to the various TIF districts. I'd attempt to answer any questions; otherwise, I'd move for the adoption of Conference Committee Report No. l to Senate Bill 1796.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Is there discussion? If not, ehe question is# shall the Senate adopt the First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1796. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 53, the Nays are none, none voting Present. The Senate does adopt the First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1796. And the bill, having received the required I 40 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bi11 1889. I I i Madam Secretary, please. I l SECRETARY HAWKER: i I Second Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1889. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 1 ! Senator Hall. !
Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. 1889 amends the Public Aid Code and regards noncompliance. Restores the ten-day noncooperation grace period for AFDC families who are otherwise eligible for aid abolished during the Spring Legislative Session in Senate Bill 1783. 1, at this time, will yield to the President, who will earry it from there.
PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rock.
Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I think the Senate will recall: because We debated this in the First Conference Committee Report back in December, and the subject matter of concern is the fact that there are some who are dropped off of the Public Aid rolls through no fault of their own. They might not have received a notice for a meeting that was scheduled by the Department. I'm sure everyone is painfully aware that some of the mail is pilfered in some of these areas, particularly Public Aid mailr and from time to time they just simply don't understand the instructions. And so What happens is, they are lopped off the rolls and then thirtyz or sixty, or ninety days later, they are reinstated, because they have not, in any way, become ineligible. The Department started -- at the bequest of the -- at the request of the General Assembly a couple of years ago, we negotiated for an entire Session with the Department and finally established that there would be granted to the recipient a ! 41 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 ten-day grace period. Last year, in our stampede to find additional cash, this was one of the elements that was considered ! because, obviously, if youdre lopping people off the rolls, your cash flow is enhanced. The cost of this bill, if you talk in terms of cost, is roughly four million dollars net to the State; ' however, that cose far, far exceeds the pain and suffering that we ' inflict needlessly on people when We drop them off the Aid to Dependent Children rolls. The Department is well aware of this. I'm not sure they have any serious objection. It was dropped out at -- almost, in my judgment, inadvertently by this Assembly. We i debated it in December, and there was an immediate effective date . i ( And Senator Maitland took me to task because of the cost involved. We have now established that it will be effective July l of this year. So there really isn't any fiscal impact for this fiscal year, but certainly there will be for next year. This problem Was brought to our attention by the Legal Aid Foundation, the Legal Assistance Foundation, who every day literally has to deal with 1 people who, for no fault of their own, have been summarily dropped from the Public Aid rolls. And I would ask your favorable consideration, and I would solicit an Aye vote. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 1 I I Is there discussion? If not, the question is# shall the i Senate adopt the Second Conference Committee Report on Senate Bi11 i 1889. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who Wish? Have a1l voted Who Wish? Have all voted Who Wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 45, the Nays are 5, none voting Present. I The Senate does adopt the Second Conference Committee Report on ! ! Senate Bi11 1889. And the bill, having received the required ! constitutional majority, is declared passed.
On Supplemental Calendar No. 2, on the Order of Motions in 42 : STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 Writing, there is a Motion in Writing to Accept the Governor's Specific Recommendations for Change with respect to House Bill 3325. Madam Secretary, please. SECRETARY HAWKER: I move to accept the specific recommendations of the Governor as to House Bill 3325, in manner and form as follows: Amendment to House Bill 3325 In Acceptance of Governor's Recommendations Piled by Senator Demuzio. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Demuzio. SENATOR DEMUZIO: Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. The -- House Bill 3325 -- when it left here, it created a neW program - the Young Farmer Guarantee Program - as part of the existing -- I'm sorry - it was separated from the existing Agribusiness Guarantee Program. The Governor didn't want to commit any additional financial resources to this new program. And so through the technical language: what he is doing is, he is makinq that new program - that Young Farmer Guarantee Program that we just did here a few weeks ago - part of the existing program. And therefore there isn't any additional liability for this program; that they could use Whatever resources that they have to fund or make do with b0th. I know of no opposition, and would ask for your support. PRESIDENT ROCK: A11 right. The Gentleman has moved that the Senate accept the specific recommendations of the Governor as to House Bill 3325. Is there any discussion? If not, the question is, shall the Senate accept the specific recommendations of the Governor as to House Bill 3325, in the manner and form just stated by Senator Demuzio. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposede vote Nay. And 43 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 the voting's open. Have al1 voted Who Wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 54 Ayes, no Naysz none voting Present. The specific recommendations of the Governor as to House Bill 3325, having received the required constitutional majority vote of Senators elected, are declared accepted. We are again awaiting a - - yet another Supplemental Calendary so I'd ask you to please be patient. Wefre moving the paper as fast as we get it. Messages from the House.
A Message from the House by Mr. O'Brlen, Clerk. Mr. President - I am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has concurred with the Senate in the passage of a bill of the following title, to wit: Senate Bill 1842, together with House Amendments l and 4. Passed the Housez as amended, January 12y 1993.
Secretary's Desk, Concurrence.
A Message from *he House by Mr. O 'Brien, Clerk. Mr. President - I am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has aceepted the Governor's specific recommendations for change, which are attached, to a bill of the following title, in the adoption of which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of khe Senate, Eo Wit: House Bill 3815. Adopted by the House, January l2y 1993.
Secretary 's Desk. All right. Ladies and Gentlemen, if I can direct your attention to Supplemental Calendar No. 3. I would also like to inform the Body that there will be a Supplemental 4, 44 STATE OF ILLINOIS I 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 which will contain those two Messages that were just read in from the House and two additional conference committee reports. And I there probably will be a Supplemental 5 With one or two remaining items. So my guess is we are yet an hour away from concluding our business. And it is still the intent of the Chair in both Houses to adjourn the 87th General Assembly sine diez so that tomorrow will be fully devoted to the beginning of the 88th Assembly. Supplemental Calendar No. 3, Madam Secretaryy on the Order of Conference Committee Reports, there 's a Report with respect to House Bi11 1918. Madam Secretaryr please.
First Conference Committee Report on House Bi11 1918.
Senator Jacobs.
Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 1918 amends the Low-Level Radioactive Waste Management Act to create a loW Waste - - Low-Level Radioactive Waske Task Group, consisting of the directors of the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Energy and Natural Resources, the Illinois Department of Nuclear Safety and four members designed <sic> by the Governor on a basis of their expertise. As you know, this bill will enable the State of Illinois to begin moving forward immediately to fulfill its responsibilities under federal 1aw to develop a low-level radioaeeive waste disposal facility. And of course, as you know, after the Martinsville site was rejected last fall, we didz in fact, fall behind in our responsibility of forming some sort of a siting commission, and we removed much of the o1d site selectkon process in that bill. And this Conference Committee ! Report has been reviewed by the Department and contains many of their recommendations. And the proposal just basically indicates 45 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2z 1993 that the task force will develop criteria for selection of a site of a facilkty. And I think those words pretty much spell out the l fact that this is a bill that will be continually evolving and continually having input of public information and -- and the ability to change what needs to be in this bill, but we do have to get started. In 1980 we were given the charge by the Federal Government to start moving. Every day the clock is ticking, the dollar amounts are increasing to continue to send our low-level waste to South Carolina and to Washington. And most of you have on your desk a couple of newspaper items in regards to the cost and hoW it continues to go up. And I think it's time that we make a move. This is a first step in that direction. I ask for your support, and be happy to try to answer any questions.
Is there any discussion? The Gentleman has moved the adoption of the Conference Committee. Discussion? Senator Macdonald.
Yes, Mr. President, thank you. I stand in support of this Conference Committee Report. The Department of Nuclear Energy has been on Illinois' case for some time now because We are no further than We have arrived at this particular point. This may not be the petfect vehicle, the perfect bill, to aceomplish everything I that you will want to accomplish in the future, but this certainly starts us in a positive direction. It will obviously take another couple of years before this entire problem has been resolved . But I certainly agree with Senator Jacobs that it is time for us to get going. And if there have to be fkne-tuntng adjustments made, I certainly trust the 88th General Assembly to accomplish that end. So I stand in support of this piece of legislation.
Further discussion? Senator Woodyard. I 46 STATE OF ILLINOIS i . 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT , i 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 END 0F TAPE 2 i I TAPE 2
Thank you Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Would the sponsor yield for a few questions?
Sponsor indicates he will yield, Senator Woodyard .
Senaeor Jacobs, it's my understanding that by changing eo this process, it would still take between three to four years to -- to actually do a siting. What is the urgency about bringin: this kind of -- piece of legislation to this Body at thls late hour?
Senator Jacobs.
I think -- T thlnk ehe question begs its own answer. because it is going to take three or four years that the imposition should start now. That we should start the procedure now and -- and it's - - I think itfs necessary now, Senator, mainly because we removed any siting process whenever we did 318, and I think that is the main reason why we need to get this thing going now; it's a starting base. And I understand some of your concerns that you have, and some of those concerns T'm sure will have to be worked on as we go down the pike on this bill. But I think your question is well put, but I -- I think that it clearly shoks that by your - - the -- the question itself means that we should start now. Wefve had since eighty - we dre under the gun - our costs are going up every day. Every day that we don't do something, the cost of transportation and delivery of this product gets greater and 47 ! STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 greater, and I think that's why we need to start now. PRESIDENT ROCK: I i Senator Woodyard. ! SENATOR WOODYARD: Well, thank you, Mr. President, and again, I hate to drag this Out, but doesn't -- isn't this a dramatic departure from the i siting process as we've known it in the past, and doesn't this k circumvent the approval of a unit of local government? Because in - - in this bill, you basically say that a farm owner, or a landowner can submit a tract of land for approval to this commission. So doesn't this really circumvent a unit of local government having to approve the site? ; ! PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACOBS: Well, first of all, Senator, you know, I -- I would probably I disagree and -- and tell you that the siting process for this particular type of -- of -- of project has been in shambles and probably needs a 1ot of repair. But -- but I think more candidly, that there is a -- a period in here where there is a open dialogue for public access of information and for public comment, that would appear also to those municipalities. Yes, there is a -- a -- a drastic department Ksic> - if you will - from the old standard, where the municipality and over the county made its decisions. ! ! That's been part of the failure process of this particular type 1 ! f i project. HoWever, there s still input, and in your scenario, yes, he could make that presentation, but they still would have to fulfill all of the qualifications that the task force would put forth. PRESIDENT ROCK: ' Senator Woodyard. SENATOR WOODYARD: 48 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 Thank you, Mr. President. Well -- well, again I thlnk the answer is a unit of local government that would oppose this siting. Although there is provisions for comment, the final decision would not have to have the approval of that unit of local government, and 1et me give you an example. I see nothing in this Conference Committee Report which would prevent and preclude the sitin: of this low-level radioactlve waste site at Martinsville. I don't think there is any in there; there's just no protection to do that. Another question: Do you have any idea who this quote quote defined contractor will be that the Department would be contracting with? Who is this going to be?
Senator Jacobs.
It's my understanding it would be Chem Nuc.
Senator Woodyard.
Well, it's my understanding that it would probably be Chem Nuclear. And -- and, Senator Jacobs, in the grants that are provided for that would be awarded by the Department to the ten -- ten sites, where's the money going to come from far those grants, and does anybody have any idea how much money youdre talking about granting to the possibility of up to ten site locations?
Senator Jacobs.
Senator, it's my understanding that the maximum fee or the maximum would be five hundred thousand dollars for each site, so that would - if my arithmetic is correct, that would be five million dollars. And it's my understanding that the -- the availability of dollars - and correct me if I'm wrong - to -- hold 49 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 on one second. Itds still a negotiated fee, as I understand it, with the utility, Senator.
Senator Woodyard.
Well , in other words, that is not set forth up to five hundred i j thousand within the Conference Committee Report, and it Would I I depend probably on appropriations or whatever fees are left over from the nuclear generating stations that created the i characterization funds. So -- because we repealed the collection of -- of those fees last -- last spring. And I guess maybe -- maybe a last question: Is it true that the Governor and the Governor's Office is neutral on this particular Conference Committee Report? PRESIDENT ROCE: ' Senator Jacobs.
Yes, Senator, it's my understanding that the Governor is neutral on this Report in response to -- to the other fees, so if you remember, in 318 those fees were -- were done away with, up through this year; in '92 through '96, however, those fees are still collectible. 1 PRESIDENT ROCK: 1 I I Senator Woodyard. ! I SENATOR WOODYARD: ! Well, thank you, Mr. President. Agaln, to the Membership of the Senate: I just strongly resent the Department and - and I certainly don't blame my good friend, Senator Jacobs, on this - but I do resent the Department brinqing forth this kind of legislation here when wedre ready to adjourn sine die before too awfully long. I guess I'm the only legislator in this Body that over the past four years have gone through the process and - - and I j 50 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 the anxiety and the emotional trauma that occurred in a tiny ! lkttle town down in my dfstrict called Martinsville. And if you think this piece of legislation could not put that same kind of -- I of emotional trauma into your districts, 1'11 guarantee you it's I ! highly likely that that will happen, and I certainly Would urge a 1 . No vote on this Conference Committee Report.
Any further discussion? Further discussion? Senator Jacobs, to close l . I
Thank you: Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen. I just really ask for a -- a Aye vote, but before I do# let me just say that -- that really, We should have learned from Martinsville, and I agree with my good friend, Senator Woodyard, but that site was eventually deemed to be flawed, but that process dragged out for five years, casting eighty-five million dollarsy so the old system didn lt work; we need to put a neW one into effect, and I ask for an Aye vote.
Question is, shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 1918. Those in favor will vote Aye. i Opposed, vote Nay, and the voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Have a1l voted Who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 30 Ayes, 21 Nays, 2 votin: Present. The Senate does adopt the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 1918, and the bill, having received the required constitutional majorityz is deelared passed. Senator Woodyard, for what purpose do you arise, sir?
Verifieation.
51 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GZNERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Leglslatlve Day January l2, 1993 I I I Gentleman has requested a verificatlon. That request is in ! i order. Senator Woodyard has requested a verification. Will the 4 Members please be in their seats. Madam Secretaryz please read ; j the affirmative roll.
The following Members voted in the affirmative: Barkhausen, Berman, Carroll, Collins, Cullerton, Dartr del Valle, Demuzio, Di Turi, Dunn -- Thomas Dunn, Garcia, Hally Holmberg, Jacobs, Jones, Joyce, Kelly, Lapaille, Lechowicz, Leverenz, Luft, Macdonald, Marovitz, Philips Rigney, Severns, Smithy Topinka, Welch and Mr. President.
Senator Woodyard, do you question the presence of any Member?
Yes, Mr. President. Senator Barkhausen.
On the Floor.
Okay . Senator Jones.
On the Floor.
Senator Marovitz.
On the Floor. No further questions? All right. The roll has been verified. On that question, there are 30 Ayes, 21 Nays, 2 voting Present. The Senate does adopt the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 1918, and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. A1l right. Ladies and Gentlemen, if I can direct your attention, the -- being passed out now is Supplemental Calendar No. 4. A11 right. Ladies and Gentlemen, if I can direct your attention to Senate 52 STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 Supplemental Calendar No. 4. This very well might be, could be, should be, the last calendar we will address. Immediately after Supplemental 4 we will go to the Order of Resolutions. We have a number of resolutions congratulating all of us Who are -- will not be returning for the 88th Assembly. We have a death resolution in memory of Speaker Redmond. The Chair wishes to inform the Membership that just a feW moments ago I was again advised that the Pension Bill may be -- still be in the Reference Bureau, if you can believe that, and so it does not seem that it will be timely received. We will begin on the top on Supplemental No. 4. 1842. House Bill 714. Senator Hawkinson. On the Order of Conference Committee Reports, there 's a report, Madam Secretaryy with respect to House Bill 714.
First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 714.
Senator Hawkinson.
Thank you, Mr. President. Move the adoption of the Conference Committee Report -- the First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 714, which is the Public Library District Act. It is a rewrite of the Public Library District Act. I reluctantly bring it i to the Body at this late date, because normally I think these I 1 things ought to go through the full committee process. I can tell l 1 you, however, that there appears to be no disagreement over this rewrite; most of it is technical. The parts that are substantive - and I will read through the list of these changes that you will find in your analysis - are codifications of the case 1aw that has been governing the public library acts, and they've been working on this. It comes through us -- through the Illinois Library ! Association, and I've been advised, has been signed off by a11 the ! 1 affected parties, including the Municipal League. It adds a i 53 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 comprehensive list of definitions, specifies addresses for notice, ' provkdes that every ordinance contain an effective date, clarifies the language regarding the intent of two libraries to merge, adds the offices of vice president and treasurer to the Library District Acty requires reporting a vacancy on the board, and when it is filled, to the county clerk and the State Librarian. It clarifies case 1aw regarding language concerning votes af absentees and abstentions; clarifies that the board hires the administrator and that the administrator hires staff; clarifies appropriate education of residents prior to referendum; clarifies audit requirements; clarifies hoW tax moneys are to be kept, transferred and expended; and permits the vacating of building and maintenance levies rather than to hold a referendum to vacate a levy. I'm advised it contains no new tax authority, and is basically a codification of the case law and a rewrite -- technical reWrite of the Public Library District Act. I'd be happy to try and answer your questions.
A1l right. The Gentleman has moved -- has moved the adoption of the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 714. Discussion? If not, the question -- question is, shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 714. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nayz and the voting is open. Al1 voted who Wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On that questionz there are 54 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. The Senate does adopt the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 714, and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senator Severns, on 3650. Madam Secretary, on the Order of Conference Committee Reports, there 's a report with respect to House Bill 3650, please.
54 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislatlve Day January 12, 1993 Pirst Conference Commlttee Report on House Bill 3650. I
Senator Severns.
Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. This Conference Committee Report simply reverses the Purchasing Act changes contained in Senate Bill 1783, that we passed out of the General Assembly last spring. It, coupled With the blue-ribbon committee that we passed earlier in the fall Veto Session, I think addresses the concerns that have been raised during the course of the summer, and would at least address the more immediate concern of raislng the threshold amount from five thousand dollars to twenty-five thousand dollars on no-bid contracts. I expeck that With the bipartisan blue-ribbon committee that is in the process of bein: appointed by the four leaders - and I know Senate President Rock has already appointed his - that we in the General Assembly will be able to produce a purchasing -- a Purchasing Act that is both responsible and one that we can get behind and support with the spring language. This simply puts us back to where we were prior to June 30th. Senator Topinka has joined me i ! n sponsorship, among others, and I would Welcome any questions and appreciate your support.
A11 right. The Lady has moved the adoption of the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3650. Discussion? Senator I Topinka.
Yes, and very briefly, Mr. President. Since we, I think inadvertently, took this out when we had that rather massive bill at the end of Session whlch cut the budget and made all sorts of ' changes, and I -- you know , it was done in the last five minutes i j of Session, if we don't put this back, really our ability for I 55 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 oversight is -- is -- is almost nil. And it's a very responsible thing to do, and if We could get this back into the 1aw - I think we've made those promises to the public, to the press, to providers, to everybody and a1l concerned - this would give us a . chance to deliver on that promise.
Further discussion? Senator Schaffer.
Well, I just wanted to point out that the Department of Central Management indicates that passage of this bill would -- I I and the repeal of the earlier bill, would incur a -- an expense of some four hundred and twenty-nine thousand dollars, and they argue - I think with eloquence - that -- let's give the blue-ribbon Committee a chance to work. If we go back to the status quoe 1 there 's going to be no incentive to change, and there will be no attempt to streamline. Sometimes you just have to go forward and We have to take a little heat, if the idea makes sense.
Further discussion? Senator Maitland.
Well: thank you very much, Mr. President, Members of the 1 Senate. I -- I agree with Senator Schaffer) I think we are ' overreacting here to some criticism from -- from some groupq and - - and some in the media who simply didn't understand what we are about here. This thing is much deeper than khat we see on the surface. And again T -- T echo whae Senator Schaffer has saidr There has been a blue-ribbon committee appointed to discuss Xnd consider and debate the entire Act - entire Act. Changing horses in the middle of the stream, Senator, you and I both know is going eo cost *he Staee money, and we ought not be about that. You are viewing this in a -- in a way that you believe is proper and just, that it is -- the State is being hurt by the eurrent language. 56 I STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 i That simply is not the case. Let's let the blue-ribbon committee move forward, and then react accordingly.
Further discussion? Senator Welch.
I had a question of the sponsor.
Sponsor indicates she will yield, Senator Welch.
Senator Severns, included in this Conference Committee Report is a provision that the public radio and television stations eligible for the Comptrollerls Grant Program include those authorized under a program test authority by the FCC . Could you tell me who wedre ineluding in this bill, and What that refers to?
Senator Severns.
Quite frankly, Senator, I don't have any idea where the language came from.
Senator Welch.
Well, I think that speaks volumes about this entire program, because we're spending - according to my analysis - over four million dollars a year on twenty-one public television and radio stations With a projeeted 4.3 million dollars available for the current fiscal year. Now we 've been looking around for nickels and dimes throughout our budget for the last tWo years, and, Senator Severns, you have been one who has looked probably harder than anybody, and I just wonder why we are making this four million dollars available for public TV and radio. This whole election this last year was about special interest groups, and 57 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 this seems to me to be a special interest group that has escaped our attention. Nobody Wants to talk about the public radio i stations, because we a1l live and die on free publiaity in this I , Chamber, and I think that we probably should know what this means, I I and I Would hope if anybody here knows what that refers to, they would let us know. Thank you.
Further discussion? Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS; 1 Thank you, Mr. President. Question of the sponsor.
Sponsor indicates she will yield: Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Has this Conference Committee Report been called in the House yet?
Senator Severns.
I'm not sure.
I Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: I Might I answer that for you? The answer is yes, and it i I i failed. So why are we doing this?
Senator Severns.
Senator, I simply -- I've been in -- on the Floor in this Senate and I've not been over to the House Chamber. I didn't know that they'd already acted on this Report. Are -- are you certain i I this was the numbere or was it another one that had difficulty r : earlier? 58 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 i PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: I am never certain ever of anything. But I think that maybe We ought to hold it till you find out whether they have or not, whether I'm right or you dre right. Okay? PRESIDENT ROCK: Further discussion? Senator Demuzio. SENATOR DEMUZIO : Senator DeAngelis, I have a transcript; you made the same speech in 1986. Let's hold the State Procurement Bill. This is 1992 -- 1993 - so I missed it by a feW days - you made the same speech in 1986. You -- you must have a -- must have a one-track mind there on what youtre going to say about this bill. The eime's overdue; we ought to pass it. PRESIDENT ROCK: Further discussion? Any further discussion? Senator Severns, you wish to close? SENATOR SEVERNS: Thank you, Mr. President. I've just been advised: Senator DeAngelis, that -- I know you dre right most of the time, but this has not yet been voted on in the House, so I don't know what's going to happen when it is. But in response just to some of the questions that were raised: The testimony that Director Schnorf gave our committee - the State Government and Organization Committee - last August Was the same figure thak -- Ehat was mentioned here today by Senator Schaffer and reiterated by Senator Maitland, and that was the four hundred and twenty-nine thousand figure. Quite frankly, with a1l the respect that I have for Director Schnorf, he did not back it up then; he hasnlt backed it up today. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the figure would change. The number that's been used repeatedly 59 : STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 since the beginning of this fiscal year could not be the same l j number today. The number that Senator Welch talked about is a l j number of concern. I don't know how this language was entered; I I ! I asked Senator Holmberg, and it was, frankly, a surprise to her as Well. What I do know is it's not GRF, and it's language that We passed out of this Senate Chamber, and frankly, was approved by the Governor, except that the bill in total was amendatorily vetoedy and now it's back in this bill. I think the important step that this Chamber took was earlier in the Veto Session when we approved the blue-ribbon committee. But a1l of us have been advised, time and again, by our own constituents and by vendors of this State, that the measures that we took in this Senate Bill 1783 last summer was not a step in the right direction. This bill attempts to correct that, and I would urge your support. PRESIDENT ROCK: Question isz shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3650. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay, and the voting's open. Have all voted Who wish? All voted Who wish? Al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Al1 voted Who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 25 Ayes, 18 Nays, 6 voting Present. The Conference Committee Report is not adopted, and the Secretary shall so inform the House. Senator DeAngelis, for what purpose do you arise, sir? SENATOR DeANGELIS: Just on a point of personal privilege to maintain my credibility . The bill failed on 2104. The very same bill. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Jones, on your Motion in Writing. Supplemental Calendar No. 4, Ladies and Gentlemen. There's a Motion in Writing to Accept Specific Recommendations for Change with respect to House Bill 3815. Madam Secretary, read the motion, please. l 60 I STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993
I move to accept the specific recommendations of the Governor as to House Bill 3815, in manner and form as follows: Amendment to House Bill 3815 in Acceptance of Governor's Recommendations Piled by Senator Jones.
Senator Jones.
Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. I accept the Governor's amendatory change on House Bill 3815: and What it doesr essentially, is this: it delete the requirement in the Animal Control Act for veterinarians to supervise the animal contzol wardens in the use of tranquilizer guns and equipment. And I accept this change because it does create a problem, and ask for a favorable vote on the amendatory veto.
All right. The Gentleman has moved acceptance of the specific recommendations of the Governor as to House Bill 3815. Discussion? Senator Fawell.
Thank you very much. Will the sponsor yield for a question?
Sponsor indicates he will yield, Senator Fawell.
Senator Jonesg there's been a lot of discussion in my area about this -- this particular bill, because of the fact that -- whether We inadvertently or by -- by purpose, eliminated a lot of the control that the wardens have over these animals. For instance, there is a question in -- about whether they will be allowed to carry any kind of -- of firearms. And before -- 1et me explain what the problem is: We have had several deers killed on I 61 i STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 our highways in -- in my area. These are animals that have nat been killed outright: but rather have been hit by a car and their 1 leg Will be broken or theydll be very badly injured. A warden is called out, and With this bill, he wll1 not be able to complete i d the kill, and allow that animal -- and the animal will have to continue suffering while the proper people come in with a gun to shoot him. I don't like Bambis being shot, but I think in some cases it's -- it's necessary. And my understanding is this is -- l this authority has been taken away from them now - that they'll not be able to carry any kind of firearms, even if they've had the I proper training. Is that true? I I PRESIDENT ROCK: i ! Senator Jones. SENATOR JONES: Way I read it# it only deals With the veterinarian's supervision of the warden, because what would happen then, in each incident, you would have to have a veterinarian on the scene to i supervise the warden. So it does not take away the warden doin: @ his job; it would take away the requirements statutorily for a veterinarian to be there for each particular incident, because it would totally disrupt the entire system, and it just could not I ! work. So I -- I -- that's the Way I read the amendatory veto, : and, you know, I see no problem with that. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Fawell. SENATOR FAWELL: i I'm sorry, Senator Jones. I'm talking about the original bill, uhich frankly, should have been killed right out to begin With. The original bill actually took a 1ot of -- of powers away from our -- our wardens, who are trying to do their job: who right I now have the authority, for instance, to go out and issue tickets if a dog is being abused, if horses are found starving. Let's 62 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 14Gth Legislatkve Day January l2, 1993 face it - by the time he goes and gets a police officer and brings him back, in effect, what's going to happen is the horses are going to be long gone, or the dog is going to be long gone. mean, you know, you're disrupting the whole system with this law. I understand the reason Why it was originally suggested; there was a problem of one warden down in Central Illinois that got a little bit carried awayy thought he was a real cop, but he has been fired, so I don't know why in the world we have to have this in the law. I -- truly think it's a bad idea. I understand there are some other things that are in the bill that are -- are good, but I wish you would just remove that whole section about the wardens out of there until we can get this thing straightened out, because a lot of wardens are very upset about this.
Further discussion? Senator Jones, you wish to close?
Yeah. Thank you, Mr. President. And I understand What you are saying, Senator Fawell; that portion had passed this Body as well as the other Chamber, and a:ain what this does is take away the -- the supervision as relate to the veterinarians. That is what we are addressing on the amendatory veto. If you Wish to do that on another piece of legislation next Session, I suggest that you attempt to do that. But al1 this does is take away the supervisory capacity as far as the veterinarians are concerned, and ask for a favorable vote on the Governor's amendatory veto on House Bill 3815.
The question is, shall the Senate accept the specific recommendations of the Governor as to House Bill 3815, in the manner and form just stated by Senator Jones. Those favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay, and the voting's open. A11 voted who wish? A11 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the 63 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 record. On that question, there are 53 Ayes, 1 Nay, none votin: Present. The specific recommendations of the Governor as to House Bill 3815, having received the required constitutional majority vote of Senators elected, are declared accepted. A11 right. We have a number of congratulatory resolutions, so I'd ask the Membership to bear with us. Resolutionsy Madam Secretary.
Senate Resolution 1728. Senate Resolution 1729. Senate Resolution 1730. Senate Resolution 1731. Senate Resolution 1732. Senate Resolution 1733. Senate Resolution 1734. Senate Resolution 1735, pardon me, through 1735 -- 34 were a11 Senator Rock and all Members. Senate Resolution 1735 Was Senator Philip and al1 Members. Senate Resolution 1736 offered by President Rock and a11 Members. Theydre al1 conqratulatory.
All right. Consent Calendar. Ladies and Gentlemen, we are awaiting the advent of Senate Supplemental Calendar No. 5, which will contain four or five additional conference committee reports that the Members involved in those reports have asked me to have preseneed to the Body, and we Will attempt to accommodate, as we always have. In the meantime, in the interest of timey We have a number of ccngratulatory and suggest Well-deserved - resolutions in favor of Members who indeed will not be wlth us. So I think this might be an appropriate time to go through those and adopt them, and afford the Members an opportunity - as a few have indicated, they wish the opportunity - to bid us in the 64 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 institution a fond farewell. Resolutions, Madam Secretary.
Senate Resolution 1679 offered by Senator Holmberg. Pardon me, offered by President Rock and all Members. (Secretary reads SR No. 1679)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Holmberg.
Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Body. Over a period of ten years I've watched as the number of women in the Illinois Senate grew from four to fourteen, as the first women were elected to leadershipz and as the first Democratic woman was nominated by her party and elected to Statewide office. Women do have more credibility in today's General Assembly - both as candidates who can win, and as service-oriented Legislators. My path was as easy in 1982 as others are finding it in 1992, because three very capable women had already served as the Senator from the 34th District: Ann Keegan, Vivian Hickey and Lynn Martin. If 1992 was the year of the woman, then the decade of the nineties Will be the decade of women in leadership. Their unique skills, honed in years of community service and managing a family, will transfer well to leadership. And their ability to lead democratically fits the Legislatures to which they have been elected. My role has been strengthened over ten years by the wonderful staff that has supported me a11 the way: Chuck Eckert, Pat McGuckin, Jenny Bramel, and my secretary, Debbie Chism , amongst many others. The cooperation of my Local Government and Higher Education Committee members and the minority spokespersons, Bev Fawell and Ralph Dunn, made my Chairmanships very rewarding. It is awe-inspiring to know that each vote we make affects eleven million Illinois citizens, and that we sit in the same Legislature where men like Abraham Lincoln once sat. Tt is rewarding to know 65 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 that even one simple bill we have authored will be affecting Illinois citizens for decades to come. It has been a great ten years, and a pleasure to serve With a11 of you in the Illinois Senate. (Applause by the Illinois Senate)
PRESIDING OEEICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. With leave of the Body -- the resolutions are on the Resolutions Consent Calendar, but Senator Jacobs moves to suspend the rules for the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Resolution 1680 <sic> (1679). A11 ln favor Will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have Resolution 1680 <sic> is adopted. Further resolutions, Madam Secretary.
Senate Resolution 1729 offered by President Rock and all Members. (Secretary reads SR No. 1729)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) With leave of the Body, when -- when we get to the adoption of this, we'll call his name three times and if he doesn't show up , we'll pass it. Senator Di Turi.
Thank you, Mr. President. I'd like to accept this on behalf. He couldn't be here for this award and this Oscar. He says thank you to everybody, and he wishes you Godspeed .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Marovitz on the Floor? Senator Marovitz on *he Floor? Senator Marovitz, do you Wish to grace us with a few words, or do you pass? Senator Marovitz.
I never passed before. Why should I now? Wellz I did hear them outside the Chamber and -- yeah. The last eighteen years in this place have been easily among the most enjoyable years of my 66 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 life. It's been an experience the likes of which -- I guess it's hard to describe. I think the President Will probably do a better job in a little while. But the opportunity to serve people and to :et things done and to put laws on the books that hopefully - if you do your job well - will positively affect the lives of future generations - there 's really no substitute for a feeling like that. I think the first bill that I passed when I got in the Legislature Was a bill to legalize the use of generic drugs, and even today I still get letters from people who thank me and say we are saving money on their prescription drug costs. The friends that you make in this place - there's no substitute for it. It's much like a college fraternity. The people that you Will remember al1 of your life, that you love, that you fought with, and then you went out and had a drink with. 1111 -- If11 miss that an awful lot. The faces and the ability to get things done and to be part of the process - there is no substitute for that. It's been probably the eighteen best years of my life. 1.11 be back here, because 1'11 miss the place, and 1'11 miss the faces, and Ifl1 miss the process. I've never been in the minority in eighteen years, and I guess I dan't envy some of the fellows and ladies on this side of the aisle. But it's your turn, on the other side of the aisle, and I'm sure you're going to have a 1ot of fun with it. In the end -- in the end, I hope that the people of the State of Illinois, regardless of politics, will be served and served properly, because that's what this is all about. And When you go to sleep at night, when you end your career, when you talk to your kids and your family, the faet that you got something done positive for your constituents and you could put laws on the books that Will make people's lives better, that's what it's al1 about. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to serve. (Applause by the Illinois Senate) PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 1 67 I STATE OF ILLINOIS i 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATZ TRANSCRIPT I 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 A1l right. Senator Rock has moved to suspend the rules for the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Resolution 1729. All in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Senator Rock noW moves the adoption of Senate Resolution 1729. All in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The resolution is adopted. Further resolutions, Mr. Secretary. ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HAQRY) Senate Resolukion 1700 offered by Senator Philip and all Members. (Secretary reads SR No. 1700) PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Davidson. SENATOR DAVIDSON: Mr. President and Members of this Senate, it's been joyful years, been some times that weren't so joyful and since only one of we three who are survivors of the 173, '74 majority will be back, I want to wish all of you Godspeed. It's been an enjoyable time. Before I go any farther, I want to pay tribute to my Wife, who 's in the gallery, who -- without her and my children's supporty I couldn't have been elected for twenty years. Shirley. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Shirley. (Applause by the Illinois Senate) SENATOR DAVIDSON: Then I want to say thank you to Prudie Mccreight Harden, who has been my secretary for twenty years and put up kith al1 you rascals who came in to harass me. But it's been fun; I've enjoyed it. I'm not going to go away; I'm not going to move out of Springfield. I've been in a11 fifty states, and there's no place better than God's eountry: and that's central Illinois. I look forward to working with you. You have any questions dealing with 68 L . STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 my profession, please call me; IIm always available. Thank you very, very much. (Applause by the Illinois Senate)
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Philip has moved to suspend the rules for the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Resolution 1700. Those in favor Will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The rules are suspended. Senator Philip noW moves the adoption of Senate Resolution 1700. Al1 in favor: indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The resolution is adopted . Further resolutions, Mr. Secretary.
ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) Senate Resolution 1703 offered by Senator Philip and all Members. (Secretary reads SR No. 1703)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hudson.
Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, on many occasions I have, as you have, been called upon to attend meetings of one kind or another, and perhaps you, as 1, have been called upon to to give the invocation or say a word of prayer before the meeting. Theylve even gotten to call me Chaplain Ray up where come from. But I never do that without thanklng the good Lord for the country that We live in. I think sometimes it's a tendency we Americans have to take our government and the things the blessings of freedom and llberty that we have in this country for -- for granted. And we forget sometimes that they came from the sacrifice, the bloodshed, and the hard work in the lives of those who preceded us. Now what I'm leading up to is how proud I have been - and I tell my constituents this - hoW proud I have been of the kind of government that our founders in this 69 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENCRAL ASSEMBLY ' REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I ! I 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 country devised, originated, for us. A government under Gods one nation under God, that has qiven us more liberty, more freedom, circumscribed in law than probably any other country on the face i of this earth, and a government that recognizes that its powers l and its control really is -- does come from the Lord himself, unalienable rights, as we call them, theyfre -- they dre God-given. So I have been, through these years, immensely proud of being able to be a part of such a form of government here in the State of Illinoisy and to serve the people that I have represented to the best of my ability. It's a rare privilege, and I have so much enjoyed knowing so many of you; al1 of you I have considered my friends. I think I have -- we have disagreed on many things, on b0th sides of the aisle herey but through that al1 has come a fondness and affection for you that I shall never forget. I consider you my friends and I will remember you always. I too want to say a word of praise for my dear, long-suffering, patient wifez sitting in the gallery tonight, as she has so many other evenings, wondering when we may get out of here, and probably the answer is HWhenever you decide to shut up, Rayz'' that's what she miqht tell me. But anyway: through twenty-two years, she has traveled about two hundred miles up and down Route 1-55 with me, ! and always the same question, ''When do'you feel you may be out this evening, Ray?'' and my answer is, ''I'm not sure; I don't know.'' But anyway, without her help: this couldn't have happened. Sitting there, Ifl1 ask her to stand. ...tApplause by the Illinois Senatel... And I think apart from that, I -- I can't -- there isn 't too much that I can say, except that I love you all. The good Lord has given me this opportunity; I shall cherish the memories of your friendship the rest of my days. And I guess 1'11 close by invoking some shades of memory from General Douglas MacArthur when he retired, but 1'11 simply paraphrase to say that: 01d Senators never die; they simply move away to California: or 70 STATE OF ILLINOTS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY I REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 : Florida, or Arizonay or in my case, even Downers Grove, Illinois. Thank you all, and God bless you. (Applause by the Illinois Senate)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A11 right. Senator Philip has moved to suspend the rules for the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Resolution 1703. A1l in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay . The Ayes have it. Senator Philip noW moves the adoption of Senate Resolution 1703. All those in favor will indicate by saying Aye . Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Senate Resolutipn 1703 is adopted. Purther resolutions, Madam Secretary.
Senate Resolution 1730 offered by President Rock and al1 Members. (Secretary reads SR No. 1730)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Kelly.
Thank you, Mr. President and fellow Senators, Madam Secretary. It's been a great experience for these twenty years in the Illinois House of Representatives and Senate, and a great privilege to the Kelly family to have had me serve this time, and I've enjoyed it immensely. My secretary, Lisa Sulcer, I thank her individually; the rest 1111 just have to say thank you and -- for tolerating me from time to time, and giving me constructive criticism , and especlally your friendship. And I too Would like to have you recognize my wife, Ethel, who has joined me in Springfield up in the galleryy if you'd please recognize her, and want to thank her for everything. (Applause by the Illinois Senate)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Ethel, please stand. E 71 STATE oF zLLzxozs i 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 l SENATOR KELLY: j But this -- this is a great process; it's one -- I mean, I've i learned immensely from -- from youz and it's just something 1111 i ! carry with me a long tlme. And anyway, Iîm going out on a high I i note; I feel very positive about myself and about the future of i this Body and of the General Assembly, so I Wish you Well. God bless a11 of you. Thanks for everything. j (A i pplause by the Illinois Senate) j i
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A11 right. Senator Rock has moved to suspend the rules for the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Resolution 1731. All in favorz indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. 1730. The Ayes have it. Senator Rock now moves the adoption of Senate Resolution 1730. A1l in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Senate Resolution 1730 is adopted. Further resolutionsr Madam Secretary.
Senate Resolution 1731 offered by President Rock and a1l Members. (Secretary reads SR No. 1731)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Janet Joyce.
I Want to thank you all. It's been a great experience for me - one that I could not have done without my spouse allowing me to do this. He was very smart in doing this. All of a sudden, a11 those years of long hours, of the pressures that you al1 know about -- they became very real to me. Sometimes just hearing it doesn't make it real, but I now know, and it's a good thing that I do - for the both of us. Mr. President, Philip Rock, we dll a1l miss, but I know that Senator Pate Philip Will have the compassion, he will do -- he will become the Phil Rock of the 72 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2v 1993 future - if that's something to look forward to, Pate. Thank you for a11 your courtesies. I've developed some very good friendships in this short amount of time on both sides of the aisle - and Senator Watson sakd I could come back and play ball next year. Thank you very much. (Applause by the Illinois Senate) PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Al1 right. Senator Rock has moved to suspend the rules for the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Resolution 1731. Those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The rules are suspended. Senator Rock noW moves the adoption of Senate Resolution 1731. All in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Senate Resolution 1731 is adopted. Madam Secretary, furtber resolutions. SECRETARY HAWKER: ... tmachine cutoffl.w.Resolution 1733 offered by President Rock and a11 Members. (Secretary reads SR No. 1733) PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Di Turi. SENATOR DI TURI: Thank youz Linda, Mr. President. First, I have to say thanks to President Rock. He said to me: ''Bobby, use common sense and care.'' And that's what I did. Under his guidance, if I had a problem, there Was not one time -- he'd always be there for me. He Eays, ''Just come in my office and lock the dooro'' And my seatmate, Vince: You've been always theçe for me too, and a friend. To a11 my colleagues: I care for you each and ane; you 're great. And I want to especially thank Barbara, my secretary, for being so kind and loving, and I do love you very much, and your family. I'd like to wish at this time, President - tomorrow - Pate Philip, many happiness, much success. And also Emil Jones, 73 k STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislatlve Day January l2, 1993 my dear friend - we always followed the chairman - much happiness, and it's not a matter of being the majority or the minority it's because I've seen on this board fifty-nine votes a lot -- a 1ot of good bills. So maybe less controversial bills we have and bills that we could a1l pass together as a Body, then the people of Illinois will be strong and they dll have good support. I want to thank each and one of you. And a message to Ms. Margaret, Collins and Bev: Bring my babies back next year; make sure I get the money . I love you all. (Applause by the Illinois Senate)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A11 right. Senator Rock has moved to suspend the rules for the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Resolution 1733. A11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay . The Ayes have it. Senator Rock now moves the adoption of Senate Resolution 1733. Those in favor will say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have Senate Resolution 1733 is adopted. Further resolutions, Mr. Secretary.
ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. NAPRY) Senate Resolution 1705 offered by Senator Philip and a11 Members. (Secretary reads SR No. 1705)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rigney.
Well, I think that's just great - what you said about me - and I think the last time that my record was evaluated was in the election in 1990, and that was done by my opponent. And frankly, I Wish he'd have had a copy of what you just read. Might have been a little easier. But -- flrst of all, I want to say that truly am going to miss a11 of you. The associations here truly have been Wonderful. And I also Want to say that I'm going to 74 STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Leglslative Day January 12, 1993 i miss participating in the issues of Illinois as a Member of the General Assembly. You know, I think there is something positive that has to be said for a form of government where a cattle-feeder-hog-farmer type of person like myself can put on a necktie and walk on to the Ploor of the Illinois State Senate, and be an equal partner in making the decisions for our State Government. May that type of government long exist. I also want to tell you that We're heading back to the farm now. I give you this one word of warning: Ifm going to be watching a11 of the things that are going to affect everything out there on the rural route, and hopefully youfre going to be doing everything right, and -- but expect to hear from me in -- in the event that you dondt. My wife, Margie, is in the balcony, and I just Want to say: You said that my absence here is going to be a loss for this Body and this is goins to be Margie's gain. And after twenty years, she deserves having me home a little bit more than what I've been in the -- in the recent twenty years. God bless a1l of you . I look forward to coming back and seeing you many times. (Applause by the Illlnois Senate)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Philip has moved khe suspension of the rules with respect to Senate Resolution 1705. Al1 those in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Senator Philip now moves the adoption of Senate Resolution 1705. A11 those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Senate Resolution 1705 is adopted. Mr. Secretary, more resolutions.
ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) Senate Resolution 1706 offered by Senator Philip and a11 I Members ; . i (Secretary reads SR No. 1706) i
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 75 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 Senator Schaffer.
Thank you, Mr. President and eolleagues. Itls been a very I rewarding twenty years for me. I recall when I got down here, I had Roger Sommer on one side of me and Jack Roe on the other, which probably should have sent me a message right then and there. And they both kidded that I'd still be around here twenty years from now; and they were right. They both had the good sense, or whatever, to bail out a little earlier. It's been a very rewardinq twenty years and I've been a very lucky man. I've had some excellent staff. I'd like to thank Brenda Jack, my current secretary, Leora Lash Harry and Sally Bustudik, who have been my secretaries down here. I1d like to thank Debbie Justus and Geri Davis, who have run my district office. I have kiddingly said - but there's a 1ot of truth in it - that for twenty years I've been a front man for two secretaries. And thereds a 1ot of truth in that, and those people have made this job possible. I'd like to also thank the staff, both past and present, b0th Republican and Democrat, without whose help I'm afraid we would have looked - at least I would have looked - much less professional. And I would like to thank my wife, MaryAnn, Who is in the back of the Chamberr for putting up with this madness, ...tApplause by the Illinois Senatel... although she - I think - understood the legislative part of what she was gettin: into. I have worked at a little bit of a handicap for lo, these last few yearsy knowing that she had a squawk box in her office and could hear every word I said, and that would be subject to some form of comment later in the day. Probably you noticed in the last few years I hadn't been talking quite as much, and that's why. I'm very proud of the twenty years I put in down here. You know it's become very fashionable to bash government and those of us who practice the art of politics - politicians - but my experience has been that the men and women I 76 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 ; ! haveservedwith,pastandpresent,representthevery finest of 1 : the people of the State of Illinois. And I am proud to have served with you, and I am proud to have served with the people that have gone before. Senator Rock, you have set a standard in this Senate as Senate President that I think will live long - long i after a11 of us are gone. And therefs no doubt in my mind that Senator Philip is up to the task of being Senator -- Senate President, and I have every confidence that his record will be as i distinguished as Senator Rockds. I have to admit, I - like I suspect many or most of the Members who are leaving - have regrets. Certainly this spring Session is going to be interestinq. Senator Rock Ksic> and Minority Leader Jones, I'm ! confident that you will accomplish a great deal. I1m also i confident that it Will be a very interesting timey and I hope not to be too far away from the scene, so at least I can observe it. I am going to stress losing weight and making money in the future. Big applause from the back of the room . And I'm going to stay active in politics; and one of the things I do not want to do is to slkde into political oblivion, such as Senator Netsch and k Senator Kustra have. So I plan on being activez at least as a committeeman, and going door to door - something meaningful. Sincerely, I leave this Body with more friends than I can imagine and more memories - happy memories - than 1'11 probably ever be able to categorize. It's been a great honor, and I won't be too far away, and I look forward to Working With you or at least conversing and talkinq about old times and times in the future I with each and every one of you. Thank you for your friendship. j (Applause by the Illinois Senate) ! END OF TAPE 77 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2z 1993 TAPE 3 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) i Senator Philip has moved to suspend the rules for the ' immediate consideration of Senate Resolution 1706. A1l in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The rules are suspended. Senator Philip now moves the adoption of ! Senate Resolution 1706. Those in favor will indicate by saying ! Aye. Is that all? Scares me. This thing -- may not pass. Al1 those in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The resolution is adopted. Senate Resolution 1706 is adopted. Mr. Secretary, please. ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) Senate Resolution 1707 offered by Senator Philip and al1 Members. (Secretary reads SR No. 1707) PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) ! Senator Schuneman. ! SENAToR SCHUNEMAN: i ! I Well, thank youg Mr. President, Members of the Senate. There are a couple of items I'd like to have added ta that list: I'm I also a notary public, and the winner of the Legislative Tennis I Tournament. Eighteen years is a long time, isn't it? I almost I feel as though I should apologize. I really didn't intend to stay I i this long, but it's been a great, sreat experience. When I first i I I thought I might run, I was given some advice by a very close l associate who told me ''Don't do itt'' But then she became my -- my best supporter, and has been with me a1l these years, and I certainly want to recognize my wife, Dorothy. ...tApplause by the Illinois Senatel... Now, in spite of the fact that her advice was probably correct, she's always been willing to go that extra mile : 78 1 ! STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 14Gth Legislatlve Day January l2, 1993 to -- and we drive a 1ot of miles in our big rural districts. She accompanied me on -- on many of those trips, and it was a great experkence. Not all af yau -- first of all, I guess should say that I've been a part of, and witness to, a number of people retirinq. But I've never seen such a mass exodus before. And so I guess it's hard to say anything new, because of the eloquence of so many who have gone before me. But I consider it a high honor to have served here, and in the House. learned, and received so much more than I ever could have contributedy and it's strange that when you leave, the people that you fought the hardest With, turn out to be some of those that you admire the most. And so consider you all my friend, and I wish for you only the best for the future. Thanks for being so kind and so understanding for me. 1'11 not return to harangue you about the bad underfunding of the pension systems any more. But I hope someone will assume that mantle, because lt really needs to -- *e need to be reminded of But go with -- with great satisfaction of having served in this -- in this Body, and I thank you for your many kindnesses. (Applause by the Illinois Senate)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Philip has moved to suspend the rules for the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Resolution 1707. All in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The rules are suspended. Senator Philip noW moves the adoption of Senate Resolution 1707. A11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Senate Resolution 1707 is adopted. Further Eesolutions, Mr. Secretary.
ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) Senate Resolution 1735 offered by Senator Philip and a11 Members. (Secretary reads SR No. 1735)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 79 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 Senator Macdonald.
Thank you, Mr. President. This twenty-year career of mine with you wonderful colleagues, both in the House and the Senate, have far exceeded my Wildest expectations. I Would like to tell you that along with the very serious business that we have conducted here, I have, most of all, enjoyed and will remember the good times and the fun that has happened in this Chamber, and also in the House of Representatives. Three incidents come to mind that as I was sittlng here thinking - that remember so vividly, and I'd like to share with you. 0ne night after Session - it had been a particularly fatiquing day - Dawn Netsch strode over to my desk. We had been friends at the Constitutional Convention, and she asked me -- she said, 'fvirginiap'' she said, ''have you been in the men 's room?'' And not wanting to sound like a feminist dropout, I said, ''Which one?'' So she proceeded to tell me that in the men 's room that -- did I realize that they had c10th hand towels, and that they had hand lotion, and that they had aspirin and Pepto-Bismol, and all of the comforts of life, while we had that miserable llttle two-holer, and that we and not only that, but we had sandpaper hand towels, and she was going to do something about it. And I agreed with her that I would back her up to the fullest, and as usual, our Wonderful friend, Sir Galahad Rock, came to the rescue, and before long -- we now have c10th hand towels, and Pepto-Bismol, and aspirin, and aloe cream soap - not that soggy stuff we used to put up with - so I have a recommendation to the obvious new President of the Senate and -- to keep on an even playing field of popularity, Patey would suggest that you tear out the phone booths and you put in sauna baths. I think that it would do great things to ease the tension at the end of Session. So in order to be equal with Senator Rock, maybe that's an addition you can make to the comfort of the 80 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12e 1993 Members. I also remember a particularly funny evening when we went on our rounds of all of the events that will -- I will miss at the time, and through the years I have thought, IfOh, one morel'' Could I take it? But one evening I went With Judy Topinka to the Old State Capitol to a very elegant candlelight reception. And to complete the atmosphere, they had veterans of one of our veterans' units here dressed in Civil War costumes. And so as we exited - having eaten every goodie in the place - Judy stopped at the top of the stairs, and she addressed the veterans. And she said, ''Sorry about the war, fellows. Any news from the front, and when can we expect to be over?'' So, Judy, don 't lose your sense of humor. You -- Bob Hope couldn't have done a better joby and they laughed, as laughed, and as everyone around her laughed . So humor is a very important thing in this Body, and I particularly remember one evening when we were having a disagreeable debate, and LeRoy Lemke God rest his soul jumped to his feet passionately and admonished al1 of us that we should remember that not al1 people were born with blonde eyes and blue hair. So those are some of the wonderful memories that I will take with me, and I Want to thank Pate Philip, Senator Rock, a11 of the staff people, a11 of my friends, my colleague, and particularly my good friend that entered the General Assembly with me - Adeline Geo-Karis. Al1 of you did not know - but I will now reveal - that we refer to each other as Arsenlc and O1d Lace, and of course, am Arsenic, and she's O1d Lace. But we have had many wonderful times through these twenty years togethery as have Dorls Karpiel and Bev Fawell - a11 of us - and I particularly, with my friends on the other side of the aisle, have enjoyed every minute of a11 of these years. I love you all very much, and may God be with you. And I have one admonition: and that is: Marty Butler, stay the course and watch your p's and q 's, because after noon tomorrow I will be your constituent. 81 ! STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 (Applause by the Illinois Senate) PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Geo-Karis. SENATOR GEO-KARIS: 1 ! Mr. President, there's a great man who's been very supportive ! E of Virginia all her life, and there's -- he's none other than her wonderful husband, who supports women in office - Alan Macdonald. He 's sitting rùght there. (Applause by the Illinois Senate) PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Alan. All right. Senator Philip has moved to suspend the rules for the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Resolution 1735. Those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The rules are suspended. ! ! Senator Philip noW moves the adoption of Senate Resolution 1735. A11 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Senate Resolution 1735 is adopted. Madam Secretary, further resolutions. SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Resolution 1734 offered by President Rock and a1l M ! embers. i (Secretary reads SR No. 1734) PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Dart. SENATOR DART: Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Much like my career here, this will be brlef. I've enjoyed every minute that I've been here. It's definitely going to be quite a change going across the hall. Unlike everybody else, I'm not leaving; I will be sticking around, hopefully, for a little while. Some of these terms - eighteen, twenty years - I don't know if 1.11 make ik quite that long, but I've enjoyed every minute here quite a bit. 82 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 I I 1 appreciate the friendships Ilve made; I'm sure 1111 be harassing I ! quite a feW of you to be sponsars over here wtth some of the ! i crazier legislation you may see. I1ve enjoyed it and I appreciate i the help youdve given me. It's going to pain me to death to watch you lose next year in the softball game. But nonethelessz I'm sure youlll try to carry on. Once again, thank you very much. (Applause by the Illinols Senate) PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) i Senator Rock has moved to suspend the rules for the immediate I i ! consideration of Senate Resolution 1734. All in favor, indicate i ' by sayin: Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The rules are suspended. Senator Rock now moves the adoption of Senate Resolution 1734. All in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The resolution is adopted. Madam ! 1 Secretary, have there been any objections filed to the Resolutions i c h onsent Calendar? : SECRETARY HAWKER : There have been no objections filed, Mr. President. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A1l right. Senator Hall moves the adoption of Resolutions l Consent Calendar. All in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The Resolutions Consent Calendar is adopted . We are waiting for Supplemental No. 5 to be down momentarily. Senator Carroll, for what purpose do you arise? Carroll. SENATOR CARROLL: Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. ; Just while we're in a brief lull' on a point of personal privilege. I think we have not formally welcomed our tWo newest Members to the Senate: Senator Gary Lapaille and Senator Jesus Garcia . We welcome both of you to the Senate, and wish you well i I n your long-term standing in this, the 87th General Assembly, i 83 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 from now till midnight, and then in the future Sessions to come. 1
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Welcome. 1 PRESIDENT ROCK: 1 A1l right. Ladies and Gentlemen, we have -- While We're ! , aWaiting the advent of Calendar 5, which will contain four or five items, we have on Calendar 4 Senate Bill 1842. It is on the Order of Secretary's Desk, Concurrence. There has been a request by the sponsor to return to that order of business. So I direct your I attention -- with leave of the Body, wedll move to Supplemental I j ! Calendar No. 4, on the Order of Seeretary's Desk, Concurrences for Senate Bill 1842. Madam Secretary, please.
House Amendments l and 4 Eo Senate Bill 1842.
Senator O'Daniel. I I i
Thank youz Mr. President, Members of the Senate. I move to concur with Amendment No. 1 and 4 to Senate Bill 1842. It passed out of the House this afternoon, 118 to nothing. And what it really does - it incorporates Amendment No. 1 into Amendment No. 4, and it appropriates three hundred thousand dollars for the Edwards County School District. Some six or eight years ago they built a neW faeility there, and ever since day one it's been a nightmare, with the roof leaking, and with condensation, and they now have the contractor and the architect picking up part of the i cost. Felt that since it Was mandated on the people - the o1d q units were condemned - that the State should also participate in funding this. And I Would move to concur with these amendments, or attempt to ansker any questions.
All right. The Gentleman has moved concurrence in House 1 84 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2z 1993 Amendments 1 and 4 to Senate Bill 1842. Is there any discussion? If not, the question is, shall the Senate concur in House Amendments and 4 to Senate Bill 1842. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. And the voting's open. Al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 48 Ayes, 2 Nays, none voting Present. The Senate does concur in House Amendments and 4 to Senate Bill 1842, and the bill, having received the required constitutional majorityz is declared passed. Ladies and Gentlemen, if I can direct your attention to page 20 - page 20 on the Regular Calendar - Senator Dart has requested leave of this Body to be shown as the chief sponsor of Senate Bill 2097. With leave of the Body, Senator Dart Will assume the sponsorship of Senate Bill 2097. Madam Secretaryz on the Order of Conference Committee Reports - page 20 on the Calendar - there's a report with respect to Senate Bill 2097.
First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 2097.
Senator Dart.
Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. The First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 2097 is a technical bill which was put forward by the Chicago Park District. It is a bill that we passed as Senate Bill 1521. It Went out of here 51 Eo noEhing . The House then puk a couple of amendments on it Ehat killed the bill. It is now back in this form. It passed the House today ll4 to 1. It basically deals With requirements of their -- posting their yearly schedules, and gives them a little more leeway in doing that. I'd move for the adoption of the First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 2097.
85 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87tREGULAR hGENERAL ASSEMBLY SESSION 1 SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 All right. The Gentleman has moved the adoption of the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 2097. Is there any discussion? If notr the question is, shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 2097. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have 1 a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted Who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 48 Ayes, 1 Nay, l voting Present. The Senate does adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 2097, and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Al1 right, Ladies and Gentlemen, Supplemental Calendar No. 5 is I I being distributed. I would ask the Members to please take a look. That's Senators del Vallez Karpiel, Jonesz and Jones. In the meantime -- Ladies and Gentlemen, while welre taking a look at Supplemental Calendar No . 5 - which will be the last order of business - we'll go, Madam Secretary, to the Order of Resolutions. Senator Demuzio. Resolutions, Madam Secretary.
Senate Joint Resolution 197 offered by Senator Demuzio. (Secretary reads SJR No. 197)
Senator Demuzio.
Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is a resolution - Senate Joint Resolution 197 - that upon the conclusion of our business today sometlmeg that when we both -- khe two Houses adjourn, that we will stand adjourned sine die. I would move to suspend the rules for the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 197.
Al1 right. The Gentleman has moved to suspend the rules for the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Joint ! 86 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY 1 REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2# 1993 Resolution 197. All in favor of the Motion to Suspend, indicate i by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it. The rules are suspended. Senator Demuzio now moves the adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 197, which will call for the 87th General Assembly to adjourn this evening - hopefully shortly - sine die. All in I favor, indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have it, and the resolution is adopted. Turning your attention, Ladies and Gentlemen, with leave of the Body, to Senate Supplemental Calendar No . 5, there is a Conference Committee Report With respect to ' House Bill 3663. Madam Secretaryr please. 1
First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3663.
Senator de1 Valle. l SENATOR dEL VALLE: l Thank you, Mr. President. I move the adoption of the First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3663. The language added by this Report corrects a technical error in Public Act 87-1208, that inadvertently impacted current leases as well as prospective leases. The original intent was to impact only i prospective leases. The language that is being altered originated i I I with the Realtors Assoclation, and they have signed off on the language in this Report. I move the adoption.
A11 riqht. The Gentleman has moved the adoption of the Conferenee Committee Report on House Bill 3663. Is there any discussion? If not, the question ks, shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3663. Those in favor ' will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. And the voting's open. All voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 53 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. The Senate does adopt the Conference 87 STATE ov ILLINoIs 87thGENERAL ASSEMBLY 1 REGULAR sEsslox l SENATE TRANSCRIPT 1 i 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 Committee Report on House Bill 3663, and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senator Karpiel, on 4037. Madam Secretary, please.
First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 4037. ' PRESIDENT ROCK: i i Senator Karpiel.
Thank your Mr. President. I have -- I believe there's a change of primary sponsors on that bill; it is now Senator Welch 's bill.
A1l right. With leave of the Bodyz Senator Welch will be shown as the chief sponsor. Senator Welch.
Thank your Mr. President. House Bill 4037 amends the Illinois Nuclear Safety Preparedness Act. What it does is it increases from -- it increases from two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to a half million dollars the maximum amount of Nuclear Safety Emergency Preparedness funds that the Department of Nuclear Safety can use to compensate local governments for expenses incurred in the implementation and maintenance of plans and programs established to deal With nuclear accidents. What we have are twelve nuclear power plants around the State of Illinois. There is currently a limit of a total of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars that the State can reimburse local governments for: should there be a need for reimbursement. What this bill says is that the cap will go up to five hundred thousand dollars. It does not appropriate any money to the local governments. It doesn 't require the State to appropriate any money to local governments; it merely raises the cap. It's -- permits us to give more money to local governments through the Department of Nuclear Safety. 88 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 I1d be glad to answer any questions. 1 '
( All right. The Gentleman has moved the adoption of the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 4037. Discussion? If not, the question is, shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 4037. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposedz vote Nay. And the voting's open. A11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have al1 voted Who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 51 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. The Senate does adopt the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 4037, and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. There is a Motion in Writinq, Senator Jones, concerning Senate Bi11 703. Madam Secretary, please read the motion.
I move to suspend the appropriate Senate rules in relation to Senate Bill 703: so that the bill may be considered by the Senate. Filed by Senator Jones.
Senator Jones.
Yeah, thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. I move to suspend the appropriate rules so that the Conference Committee Report can be held.
A11 right. The Gentleman has moved to suspend the rules. hny discussion? If not, al1 in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The rules are suspended. We dll move now to the Order of Conference Committee Reports. There's a Report with respect, Madam Secretary, to Senate Bill 703. Please. SECRETARY HAWKER) First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 703. 89 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993
Senator Jones.
Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. The First Conference Committee Report authorizes the chairman of the Industrial Commission to request from the Comptroller and Treasurer the transfer of 1.5 million dollars for -- for the Second Injury Fund. And the purpose of this ls so that they can give the cost of living increase for the disabled workers. The Commerce Commission, Labor is a11 on board. I know of no opposition, and I ask for a favorable vote on this Conference committee Report.
The Gentleman has moved the adoption of the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 703. Is there any discussion? If not, the question is, shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 703. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who Wish? Take the record. On that questlonz there are 51 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. The Senate does adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 703, and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. On the Order of Conference Committee Reports, Supplemental Senate Calendar No. 5, there's a Report With respect to Senate Bill 1650. Madam Secretary, please.
First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1650.
Senator Jones.
Thank you: Mr. President and Members of -- of the Senate. I 90 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 142th Legkslative Day January l2e 1993 This is the Omnibus Pension Bill. Ik is a bill that Members on both sides of the aisle, the Governor's Office, and also the other Chamber kn the -- across the Rotunda, have worked many, many hours on. What the bill does - 1'11 give you an overview of it it implement many of the federal changes to authorize retirement systems, at the request -- individual entitled to receive a refund. There are many, many -- many, many provisions in here as it relate to General Assembly Members. One provision as relate to the stipend for Senate Members, that theydll be able to -- to get the benefits of the stipend if bhey paid the employee as well as the employer's share of that. There are some provisions in here for the Downstate police, Downstate firefighters, Chicago police: Chicago firefighters, Illinois Municipal Leaguez the Chicago Municipal and Laborer, and What it does there is provide for early retirement incentives. This is the five-plus-five. There are many provisions in here and changes as it relate to the Cook County penskon systems. All these provisions have been agreed to by the various systems: the Chicago Park District, the Metropolitan Sanitary Districtr and many, many changes as it relate to the State Employees' Pension System , including the Governor's proposed five-and-five early retirement incentive for State Police. There are provisions in here as it relate to the State University System it's not a early retirement per year mean per se, but it does create a one-year window. That the declaration period from January 30, 1993 <sic>, that the universities will pay seven percent of salary contribuEions Ehat currently may be paid by the employees to avoid a discount. The Downstate teachers -- there is provisions in here for early retirement, the five-plus-five incentive for the Downstate teachers, and allows for the Chicago teachers to increase from fifteen million to twenty-five milkion the amount of the pension fund which may be used for a partial reimbursement of the 91 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 annuitant health care insurance. There are some provisions in here for judqes, and that is the overview of the Pension Bi1l. Yesterday, in Room 400, Members of both sides of the aisle in this Chamber as well as in the House: and the Governor's Office, a11 worked on this bill for seven marathon hours. The Governor's Office has signed off on a11 the provisions that is included herein, and this is the Omnibus Pension 3i11 for this Session, and I ask for a favorable vote on Senate Bill -- Senate Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1650.
The Gentleman has moved the adoption of the Conference Committee Report on Senate 3ill 1650. Discussion? Senator Schuneman.
Thank you, Mr. President. Just a feW minutes ago I promised not to harangue, so this is not a harangue. Okay? But I do Want to point out that I got the mail - just like you got the mail - from the teachers who want this benefit. Of course they want the benefit. I got the mail from school districts who are having a problem, and they Want the benefit. Of course they want some of them Want this to be done, because it Will help those superintendents in managing some districts. I heard from other districts who absolutely do not Want this. But there are a few things I want to point out that the proponentsy for the most part, have not pointed out: First of all is that there are a hundred and twenty-four thousand members of the Teachers' -- active members of the Teachers' Retirement System . So the idea that Iîve heard promoted around here is we 're going to help the teachers. Well, most of them z Ladies and Gentlemen, you're not going to help; most of them -- the effect of this bill will be to take money out of their -- of their fund. It Will go to support other teachers. Probably five, six or seven percent of the teachers who 92 STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION i SENATE TRANSCRIPT j ' 140th Legislative Day January 12: 1993 are covered are the ones that are going to get this benefit. So if you have some idea that youdre helping a11 the teachers, please don 't believe that, because lt isn't true. Apparently, the hit on the pension system will be somewhere between a hundred and E thirty-three million dollars - at the low end - and tWo hundred l million - or something like that - at the high endz depending upon ! how many people take advantage of this. Now you remember When We had the same idea promoted for State employees, there -- there were more people that took advantage of it than we really expected , i - that is, the high end took advantage of it - and it was much I more costly, as shown by studies that have been done by the Legkslative -- or by the Auditor General and others - much more ! costly than we Were told at the time. I suspect the same thing may happen if you pass this bill tonight. One other thing I want to point out - and I've been -- I've been warning for many years noW that wefre going in the wrong direction, in that welre taking money out of our pension funds by funding a11 these benefits, and Wedre not putting any money in there. But for the first time in history, this year the expenses of paying pensions out of the Teachers' Retirement System was greater than the income. Now if you know anything about pensionsz you know that we're reaching the point of no return. Once we go down that slippery slope, you folks that are left here are qoing to face up - have to face up - to the problem of how you raise the revenue to replace the money. So the game that we've been playing of raising benefits and not putting the money in is almost over. So much for the Teachers' Retirement System. In the case of the State Police, there are five hundred and sixty State police eligible for this program . The Stake polkce themselves estimate that two hundred and eighty-one of ehem will take advantage of it. NoW that's -- that's a utilization rate of fifty percent. So they expect that fifty percent of everybody that is eligible is going to take 93 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 ! advantage of it. There again, that money is going to ga to only those two hundred and eighty-one peoplez and the projected hit on the State Employees' Pension Fund is forty million dollars. Now, you know, if we have to pay this: this is real money. And the one j great thing about passing these bills and not putting any money in, is that we really don't have to pay for it; it's our kids that I have to pay for it. And that's wrong, and we shouldn't keep that up. Now sometime you lre qoing to have to stop ity and at the last moment of this General Assembly might be a good time to begin that ! - - that moral strengthening that we need to draw a line and sayp ''No. We aren't Moinq to do this anymore. This is When wedre going to stop.' Thank you. l
Further discussion? Senator Berman. SENATOR BERMAN: 1 j ! Thank you, Mr. President. Would the sponsor yield to -- for a question?
i Indicates he will yield, Senator Berman.
1 ( Thank you. I notice that the Chicago teachers are nok included within this four-and -- the five-and-five provision that is provided for Downstate teachers and for others. Could you explain to us why they are not included? ! i
Senakor Jlnes. '
Over the past several years, the General Assembly has had what ! we call an ''agreed-billff process. That agreed-blll process is one wherein a11 parties involved must agree before we would pass any mandates on them as relate to their pension system . :he Chicago I Teachers,theBoardofEducationrdidnotcome to an aqreement. j 94 STATE OP ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 And since they did not come to an agreement between those tWo parties, they are not included in the bill. That is the only reason they are not included.
Further discussion? Senator Madigan.
Thank you, Mr. President. rise in support of the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1650, and to throw out some figures that were given to us this afternoon by our fiscal arm - our fiscal gurus - the Economic and Piscal Commission. Let me point out to you first of a1l what they say on the early retirement for teachers would be at a thirty-percent utilization rate. That net increase in accrued liability would be 133.9 million dollars. I would ask you to keep that figure in mind. If there is a forty-pergent utilization rate, the net increase in accrued liability is 139.8 million dollars. I Would again ask you to keep that figure in mind. Let me also quote to you as far as what they say on the State Police early retirement - a portion of The net increase in accrued liability on that, according to their figures, is zero. Zero. Not forty million dollars - zero. Now, keeping in mind that 133.9 million dollars on a thirty-percent utilization and a forty-percent utilization figure of 139.8 million dollars, let me polnt out to you figures from the State Board of Education as to khat the estimated payroll cost savings would be for those districts Statewide that would be affected by early retirement: The estimated payroll cost savings at a thirty-percent utilization for those school districts is a hundred and forty-four million one hundred and eleven thousand three hundred and four dollars. That's almost ten million dollars savings there. At a forty-percent utilization rate, the estimated payroll cost savings - again prepared by the State Board of Education - is over -- well. it's exactly one hundred and 95 ( STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT i 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 ! 1 ninety-two million one hundred and forty-eight thousand four hundred and five dollars. NoW I ask you to stop and eompare those figures and those savinqs in comparison to the net increase in accrued liability. I would liken the situation and the problem that we have With education funding, to having tWo fires going on on your property - one in your kitchen and one in your garage. And you dve got a little water to throw on those two fires, and we've got the problem with properly funding education, properly E funding the school dlstricts, Welre short of money, we've :ot an opportunity to give the school districts a hundred-and-forty-four-million-dollar savings at thirty-percent utilization ratee and a hundred-and-ninety-two-million-dollar savings at a forty-percent utilization rate. Certainly to me that addresses the fire in the kitchen. Of course the fire in the garage is still burning. But that is a situation that we need to address; we've known we've had to address that situation for several years, and we certainly ought to do What we can for the school districts when we have the opportunity to do so. We have that opportunity to do so this evening, and I would ask you to support Senate Bill 1650.
Further discussion? Senator Welch.
. .. tmachine cutoffl...president, I'd like to rise on a point of personal privilege.
State your point, please.
President Rocky I'd just like to say that this is the final bill we dre going to hear for the 87th General Assembly, and apparently this will be the last time we hear you call for the vote and ask if all have voted who wish. And I just want to say 96 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRTPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 that you had an outstanding career here in the Senate. We've a1l admired you and your leadership, and we will miss you calling us to vote, calling for a11 who voted who wish, and calling the results of the bill. I think that a11 of us here have great admiration for you as Senate President. We hate to see this time pass. We don 't like to see you leaving the Senate, but as all things must pass, this must too. But I'm reminded, thinking over your career over the past many years here in the Senate, of something that William Shakespeare wrote in a play nHenry VH. And in that play, Henry V said, before the Battle of Agincourt -- he said: am not covetous of gold. I care not that other men doth feed upon my cost; it matters to me not that other men my garments wear. These outward thinqs dwell not in my desires: but, if ik be a sin to covet honour, then I am the most offending soul alive. And I think that's been the way you have treated us in the Senate, the way you have lived your political career, and I think all of us will miss you, and I just thought that this last bill should be marked by some statement by one of us here. Thank you. (Applause by the Illinois Senate)
Thank you. Ladies and Gentlemen, please. Thank you. The hour is late. I have been reliably informed that the House has, indeed, followed our examplez and they have adjourned. And so we will attempt to deal with this bill, and then we have two remaining resolutions, and hopefully wefll conclude shortly here. Further discussion? Senator Weaver.
Thank you, Mr. President. Wellz speaking to the Omnibus Bill. I would hope that in the future We deal With each and every one of these pension systems based on their own merit. There's many qood things in this bill, and there's some bad things. The accrued liability bothers me. 0ne example: was informed this week that 97 STATE OF ILLINOTS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY I REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 in the University SERS systemr khich covers a11 of higher education in the State of Illinols and their pension fund, for the first time in history theylre qoing to have to sell assets in order to pay benefits. They're going to have to sell assets to pay benefits. Now hoW long can we go down this road? All of higher education promoted the ten-and-thirty plan, which Was ! self-sustaining. It would pay for ikself. Por some reason, your committee threw that plan out and just opened up the window to the ' ! existing early retirement with a payment of the seven percent. So I don 't know how far we can continue. I don't intend to support I this bill, even though there are many good things in the bill. But we just can't continue to lump toqether the good and the bad and pass them out as public policy, When we're not willing to support the funding necessary to pay benefits in every pension system that we have an obligation to support. Thank you.
Further discussion? Senator Rauschenberger. ;
I'd like to thank the Chair for the recognition. And I'd like ! to thank this Body for its attention. Because of John -- Senator John Friedland's early retirement - I might add With no special incentives - Ilve been privileged to share your pain in this Veto : Session. As we looked to reduce funds for coke babies, as we thoughtfully argued the merits of twenty-five-cent raises for home I i health care workers, I've come to realize hok deeply all of you i careg and because we all care, I urge you to vote No on this bill and send these items over to consideration for the 88th General Assembly . The qood of this bill can be salvaged and carefully 1 considered in the next General Assembly at their leisure, using -- having hearinqs and thoughtfully considering the impact ko the I financial system. We need to send a message that this General Assembly Was not for sale to the special interests and the -- the 98 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 pension beneficiaries. As we say no to DCFS; as we say no to Corrections; as we say no to schoolchildren across the State of Illinois; as we encourage the increasing tuitions at our State colleges - how can we vote golden parachutes Eo the highest paid of our public servants? Will this be seen as Welfare for the well-to-do? Please, for the good of the State of Illinois, for the kids that are going to have to pay these pension liabilities, vote No, and let the 88th General Assembly deal with this.
Further discussion? Further discussion? Senator Jones may close.
Thank you: Mr. President. It has been pointed out al1 the good things in the bill by distinguished minority spokesperson who rose in support of this bill. He pointed out that many of the schools Downstate, those various districts would save millions of dollars. Many of those schools are in bad financial shape. We have an agreed-bill process. I -- I regret the Chicago teachers are not included, but during that process we meet with the systems, we meet with the labor unions, we meet with all parties concerned to fashion a bill that everyone can agree on. The Office of the Governor spent many, many hours, because he, too: indicated he Wanted to support a early retirement package, but he Wanted to have something that he could agree on. So those seven hours we spent in Room 400 were not hours put on just to try to increase the accrued liability as so many point out. One can always find fault with something, but by the same token, it's time that one come together and say, ''What can We do to help the people of the State of Illinois?'' This bill does that, and I ask for a favorable vote on Senate Bill 1650. The House has adjourned. The bill passed the House With 108 Yes votes. I ask for a affirmative vote. 99 STATE OF ILLIMOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993
Question is, shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1650. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay. And the voting 's open. Have a11 voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted Who wish? Take *he record. On that question, there are 37 Ayes, 8 Nays, 7 voting Present. The Senate does adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1650, and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Ladies and Gentlemenz we have only two resolutions remaining. I would ask you, please, for your patience. Of the tWo resolutions remainingy one is necessary, and one, in my judgment, is not. But Wedll deal wtth both of them. Resolutions, Madam Secretary.
Senate Resolution 1727 offered by President Rock: Senator Philip and al1 Members. (Secretary reads SR No. 1727)
Al1 right. Senator Philip and I would move to suspend the rules for the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Resolution 1727. A1l in favor of the Motion to Suspend, indicate by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes have it. The rules are suspended. Senator Philip and I now move the adoption of Senate Resolution 1727. A11 in favor, please rise. The resolution is adopted. Ladies and Gentlemen: one final resolution, over my stron: objection. Resolution.
Senate Joint Resolution l96 offered by Senator -- Senators i Demuzio, Philip and al1 Members. I (Secretary reads SJR No. 196)
l00 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY I REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 Senator Demuzio.
Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. There are a lot of others Words that could be used to describe Phil Rock that are not in that resolution. Simply a friendr helpfulr educated# trustworthy, gracious: pious, a family man, a leader, a person of honesty and integrity, a decent person. I Was struck recently by a publication that came out called the Journal of the State Legislative Leaders Foundation, the Leader, in which you are featured on the cover. ''Phi1 Rock To Retire: Illinois Statesman Reflects on his Legislative Career, his Leadership, and the State of the State Legislature.'' There are l two paragraphs in this article that T'd like to -- to read. 1 ''Throughout his career, Rock has received great and undying l support from his family and from his 1aw partners; in deciding to ; retirer he is committed to spendinq more time with hks family and I at his law office in Chicago. Rock and his wife, Sheila, live in Oak Park. They have four grown children: Kathleen, Meghan , i Colleenr Jay, and two grandchildren, Emily and Erwin <sic> (Erin). Leading the Illinois Senate has been an 'exhilarating experience ' for Rock and one that he would highly recommend to other I legislators. He has not suffered any disilluskons about government and has found a great sense of reward in enacting laws to benefit the people of Illinois. Especially those who could not help khemselves. When he retires, Rock would like to be i remembered forhislove ofthe institutkon, for his great respect 1 . for the legislative process and for his efforts to make government work for the people of Illinoisw'' Phit, you leave us a Ehining ! example to follow: a legacy thatls rich in tradition, of caring, and fairness. Philz I can't envision a moment Without you sitting in this chairz or watching you and observing you at the I Podium, or listening to you in debate, or even seeking your advice l01 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12z 1993 and counsel. Phil, we love you and Sheila and a1l your family for all you have given. I will truly miss you. Tbank you, Mr. President.
Will the Committee of Escort please join me at the Podium. And I would admonish the Members that the hour is late. Senator Dunn.
Thank you, Mr. President. This may be your last physical day here, but your memory is going to live for generations, think. When we emulate people, we look to them for their good qualities, and certainly we wouldn't have to look beyond you in our search . You dve never dwelt on -- on pettiness. You leave this a better Body than you foundr and we fre a better people for knowinq you. I finally figured out who you are - you're the fellow we studied in civics class in grade school. The people lose a champion of truth, justice and the American way. I guess the title fits. There isn 't any place that Sheila and the kids can't walk and be proud of who their Dad is. We thank you for your character and your leadership, your friendship. You truly have made a difference. You've touched people's lives. You fve set the standard for graciousness, fairness, being honorable. Phil, the pipes are calling. May the road rise up to meet you.
. .. tmachine cutoffl...the Committee please come up here and -- can't take this by myself. Youlve got to come up and help me. Further discussàon? Senator Lapaille, for the first time in this Chamber. Welcome. SENATOR LaPAILLE: Thank you: Mr. President. For the last year, at your many testimonials - and we know you dve had many testimonials - whenever I was called upon to speak, said how disappointed I would be l02 STATE OF ILLINOIS I 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 because I would not be able to serve under the leadership of Phil Rock. Last Week I was able to attain my goal, and even though it Was just one short day, I will truly cherish it. I stand to commend you, President Rock, for your leadership in the Senate and the Democratic Party of Illinois. As many of you know, Phil Rock Was the Democratic State Chairman from 1982 to 1984, and under Phil Rockz brought our party out of the Dark Ages in political campaigns here in Illinois. Upon my election to State Chairman in 1990, Phil Rock told me that being State Chairman of the Democratic Party of Illinois is something he recommended that you do once in your life, but only once. And after two Statewide elections, a National Democratic Convention, and now planning for a Presidenkial Inaugural in Washington, D.C., I'm beginning to concur with his recommendation. President Rock, the Democratic Party does not plan to let you go that easy. We'11 be calling upon you many times in the upcoming months and years. Phil, the Democratic Party of Illinois will miss your leadership in the Illinois Senate, but beyond that, all citizens - Democrats, Republicans and Independents - will sorely miss you as a statesman and advocate for all Illinoisans. Thank you very much.
Further discussion? And I would again admonish the Members that the hour is late. Senator Collins.
Thank you, Mr. President. And I really -- I told Phil some time ago that I dreaded the moment that this would happen. And I really didn't intend to get up and speak, but I move to do so, because I feel very close to Phil. We've had some good times and some bad times over the years, and I knew that I could not find the words, because I really believe that there are no words adequate enough to describe the leadership of a great giant. No tears are soberin: enough to fill the void within us of your l03 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SCNATE TRANSCRIPT I : 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 presence here, the kind of leadershipz and the kind of community and cooperative spirit that you instilled in a1l of us. A1l of us - - most of us who are serving here, who had the opportunity to serve under you, are truly blessed, and we most certainly will be better prepared to deal with the difficult times ahead, because we did serve under you. I'm grateful and lucky, because I still have Phil Rock as one of my constituency. And I will be there -- I1m sure that he will always be there when we need him. And, Phil, I will not allow you to retire from politics. I Will be there When I need you, beeause you make me feel that way. Youlre a great public servant and you will always be. Thank you for allowing me the privilege to serve under you.
Further discussion? Senator Geo-Karis. i SENATOR GEO-KARIS: 1 I Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senatee and : friends, family of Phil Rock. I had the pleasure of knowing your mother, and I know that she must be reflecting with great pride on your accomplishments. Al1 I can say is, Phil, you've been a Gentleman. You dve disagreed with us, but then you were never disagreeable. You did very well with my Minority Leader. You both Were Gentlemen with each other, and you got along so well. Al1 I can say is, Philg job well done, and youdre not going to get rid of us so easily. God bless you.
Further discussion? Senator Severns.
Mr. President, Members of the Senate. You have exemplified better than anyone I know, the words of John Buchan when he wrote that politics is still the qreatest and most honorable profession; khat public service is the crown of a career. To -- to paraphrase Yeats: Think where one's glory most begins and ends, and say our 104 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12y 1993 I glory is that we have such a friend. Godspeed, my friend . Godspeed, Mr. President and your family. PRESIDENT ROCK: Further discussion? Senator Marovitz. SENATOR MAROVITZ: Mr. President, I served under two leaders. I've been here I eighteen years, and Ilve only served under two leaders. First was : I the previous resolution, Speaker Bill Redmond. And you are my last. 0ne word describes both of you, and that one word is 'Ifair.'' The two fairest men I've ever met in public life. I'm sad that With the huge turnover we have in the Legislature, that i the many neW Members coming into the Senate Will not have the advantage of serving under a man who is truly the epitome of what - - of What a public official is a11 about. There are politicians and there are politicians. You, my friend, are a statesman. God bless you. PRESIDENT ROCK: Purther discussion? Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you, Mr. President. I have never had the opportunity to serve under anyone else other than you, Mr. President, but somehoW I do not feel deprived. As we grow older in life, we learn there are very few people that are unexpendable, but I want to tell you, you come awfully close to fitting that category. I came down to Springfield from a different world - one who had no political background or experience, with the feeling that those who Were ' here - because of a previous run-in I had had - didn't really care about the people as much as they should. You changed that feeling real quick, and I have to tell you, you -- as you leave this Chamberr you just don't leave, you end an era - an era that we will all miss. And me in particular. And I have to tell you, it's -- it's very fitting that you leave at this time, for one l05 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January 12, 1993 reason. And that is that there has been a change in the composition of this Bodyy and I can't think of anything more painful to have to have voted against you if you were here when that change occurred . So I want to tell you, I stand very proud to have served with you, and I think you have to look around this room that there are many others who share that feeling. And I want to wish you and your lovely family the very best. We shall never forget you, and I am sure you will not forget us. Thank you very much for...tmachine cutoffl...
Purther discussion? Senator Lechowicz.
Thank you, Mr. President. Sheila, the Rock family. First of all, I want to thank a1l of you for having the opportunitye and giving us the opportunity of sharing Phil Rock, and giving him to the people of Illinois in the capacity as a Member of this Senate, as well as the Senate President. I've had the opportunity of serving here now for twenty-four years - fourteen in the House and ten in the Senate. And I served under many superb Democratic leaderse and Republican leaders, but there is no question when it came down to Senator Phil Rock he is a cut above the leadership of both parties, not only in this State, but in this Nation. There is no question that when it comes down to excellenceg whether it's in the legislative task that he has before him, or bringing about coalitions in order to support very difficult programs, Phil Rock was in that leadership. Therels no question he came from the school of Jack Touhy and Art McGloon, because thatîs where we al1 came from. And Richard J. Daley. And there's no question we take pride in the fact that we 're part of the Cook County Central Committee, and we serve the people of Cook County in this State in a very responsible fashion. Phil Rock, this is a new beginningz and I want you to look at it this way - and I 106 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY ! REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2, 1993 I really mean this: The tributes that you received this past year are very well-deserved. The tributes that a1l of us have participated, we've shared with you because of the excellence and ' the leadership you provided this Body, but come home. Come to ' Cook County and rest assured an opportunity exists that all of us can participate in. I wish you well.
i Further discussion? Senator Jones.
Thank you, Mr. President. Phil, during my ten years as a ' Member of this Body, we became good friends, but more than that -- : even though during my tenure here with you as President, wedve had a Democratic majority. And I watched you over those years as you ! displayed your fairness, the rights of khe people of Illinois to I be heard' even though you may have disagreed with those persons. 1 . I hope that legacy continue in this Chamber - the Chamber Where the ideas of people from across the State of Illinois, even though ! we may differ, those ideas ean be heard and debated in this Chamber. You leave behind a legacy of fairness. A legaey that ! ! each of us in this Chamber is proud of. So I trust that that legacy will continue. You have set the example for leadership. I ! You leave -- leave behind biq footprints to fill. And itls been i my honor to serve and call you my friend.
Further discussion? Finally. Senator Philip. ,
Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, and my Mood friendz Phil Rock. I think, Phil, that you typify ! everything good in the legislative process. You knok, wedve I gotten to be friends over the years, and I think Senator Marovitz was absolutely correct when he said, if you would try to find one word to deseribe Senator Rock: fairness. Now , as you knowz I have I l07 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January l2e 1993 been in the Senate for eighteen years; I have been in the minority. want you to know that his door was always open. We talked before every Session. We'd try to work out those problems that in my judgment were best for the citizens of the State of Illinois. Can you imagine being President of the Senate for fourteen years? We probably, in the history of this State, Will never have another President -- Senate President that Will ever serve for that many years. You certainly have Eet a standard. Phil, I think one of the nicest compliments that have received was when Senator Joyce suggested that I might be as good a President as you have been for the fourteen years. take that as the highest compliment that you could ever pay me. And you know you have my respect, my admiration. And 1'11 tell you, I1m going to miss you, because you're a great Cub fan. And after the Session We used to sit around and have a few beers once in a while, and settle some of those very : very sensitive problems we've had. And I can remember Governor Thompson talking about you many, many times, and I if I remember correctly, he attended more of your fund-raisers than he did mine. But that didn't bother me at all, and he would always say to me, nGet a hold of Phil, come on over to the mansion, let's see if we can work out those problemsd'. And youdve always been a great guy, a great American. Sheila, welre going to give him back to you. Wedve had him for almost twenty years. We -- we have improved him , wedve mellowed him, but noW we're going to give him back to you. You know what? You ought to be very proud of your family, Phil. They certainly reflect well on you and Sheila. They're something to be extremely proud of. We're going to miss youz but I know that occasionally you're going to want to come back down here again and have a few beers with the guys, and give us some advice, and welre looking for that. Good luck and long life on your retirement. thpplause by the Illinois Senate) l08 I STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 140th Legislative Day January ;2, 1993 PRESIDENT ROCK: It does appear that a roll call Will be unneeessary: I assume. Let me first: before I say thank you - profoundly thank you - introduce to you my stalwarts: the speaker of my house: Sheila Rock. And We Were -- We were reminiscing the other night, as We Were packing the -- the office: that khen we first came down, We came down with three or four in diapers and a doq, and it was an awful trip. My son was in diapers, and noW I have tWo additional sons. Now I have three sons. I'd like to introduce my daughter, Kathleen, and her husband, Steve Snow; my daughter, Meghang and her husbande Todd Simmons; my daughter: Colleen Rock; and my son: who when we started was indeed at this Podium in diapers, Jay. There -- there really is -- is not a great deal I can say, or probably should say. I want to say thank you for all that you have done for me, with me# to me. I truly, as I'm sure you know, love this institution, this process and you people. I am proud to be numbered among youe and I thank you very, very much. God bless you. ...lhpplause by the Illinois Senatel... Senator Demuzio. SENATOR DEMUZTO: Mr. President, if there's no further business, I1d like to adjourn sine diew but before I do that. and if you'll follow some direction, please. If I could ask the Committee of Escort to gather in the rear of the Chamber, right now . Your family. And once you adjourn us -- hello. Once you adjourn us, then I'd like for Sheila and your family to escort you from the Chamber and for the Members of the Senate to form in behind you as a honor guard, because we have, I thinke one of the Shannon Rovers over there for your departure. So I Would move sine die. PRESIDENT ROCK: All right. The Gentleman has moved the adoption of ehe resolution. All in favor, indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The resolutionfs adopted. Ladies and 109 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 14Gth Legislative Day January l2, 1993 Gentlemen, the 87th General Assembly, pursuant to a proper motion, stands adjourned SINE DIE. 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FLEPOXCI TIFLDAY STATE GF ILLINOIS 93/07/09 PAGEz t)03 87TH GëihlERAL ASSEhlw.LY k1:26::8 SENATE DA ILY 1'R4,' 11;CR IPT I0N 0F DEBATE INDEX JANUARY 1993 SUBJECT NATTEPV , RERARKS i,Y SERATGR SCHUREf-IAN PAGE 73 RERARl(S tiY SENATt)P. MACD0NALD PAGE 80 REMARKS uY SENAT0R DA RT' PAGE 82 RESOLUTIO/G C05lSEIM'C CALENDAR AOOPTED PAGE 83 ftEIIARK S 3Y S ENA'roR DEII0ZI0 PZGE t0 1 RE'IARKS 3Y SERATCIR T* DUNA PAGE ttl2 REAIARIIS 3Y SE;1AT0R LAPA 1LLE PAGE l.0 2 REMARKS SY SENATOR C0 LL INS PAGE lO 3 RE'IARKS 15Y SENATOR GE0-KARIS PAGE 1.06 R EMARKS BY SERAT0R SEVë RNS PAGE lOh R EIIARKS BY SENATOR lqAR0 VITZ PAGE 10 5 R Er.1ARitS BY 3t'fNAT, 3R ()ëAi%GELI. S PAGE l0 5 R EMARIIS 3Y SENATDR Ld CHOWlCZ PAGE 1.0 6 REMARKS 3Y SENATOR JONES PAGE t0 1 REI4ARKS 3Y SENA.I'OR PH IL IP PAGE 1.07 R EMARKS B9 PRJS I0ENT ROE:I PAGE l09 AIIJOUP.N - SIIkEi 01E PAGE 1l0