Illinois Senate Floor Debate — November 4, 1993

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Resolutions .

Senate Resolution 912, offered by Senator Smith . It's a death resolution. And Senate Resolution 913, offered by Senator Smith . It 's congratulatory , Mr . President . I beg your pardon . They 're both death resolutions .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Consent Calendar . For what purpose does Senator Donahue arise? SENATOR DONAHUE : . Thank your Mr . President. I Would like to request a Republican Caucus in Senator Pate Philip 's Office ilnmediately .

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Republican Caucus in Senator Phillp 's Offlce. senator Demuzioy for what purpose do you arise? SENATOR DEMUZ10 : Mr. President, might We inquire as to how long the caucus would last # so that we might inform our Members?

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 I would hope that We could reconvene in about thirty minutes. The Senate will stand in recess. . ' (SENATE STANDS IN RECESS) (SENATE RECONVENES)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) We 're going to come to order in the Senate, and request that a11 Senators be in their seats. We'll stand at ease for a few minutes. Message from the House.

Message from the House by Mr. Rossi, Clerk. Mr. Presldent - I am directed to lnform the Senate that the House of Representatives has adopted the followin: joint resolutlon, in the adoption of which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senate, to wit: House Joint Resolution 88. Adopted by the House, November 4th, 1993.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Consent Calendar . Resoluticns , Mr . Secretary .

Senate Resolution 9l4 , offered by Senator Mahar . Senate Resolution 915, by Senatcr Demuzio . Senator Hasara offers Senate Resolution 9l6 . And Senate Resolution 917: by Senator Shaw.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Consent Calendar. The Chair is prepared to go to Conference Committee Reports on page 7 . Is Senator Collins here? Page 7 . On page 7 , We 're going to do Conference Com ittee Reports . House ' 3  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislatlve Day November 4, 1993 Bill 246. Senator Collins? Mr. Secretaryy do you have a file on i - - on file a conference Committee Report on House Bill 2467 SECRETARY HARRY: First conference committee Report on House Bl1l 246. . PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) The Chair recognizes Senator Collins. Senator Collins, on House Bill 246, Conference Committee Report. I SENATOR COLLINS: Thank you, Madam Preskdent and Members of the Senate. Just i hold on for a minute. I move for the adoption of the First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 246. As you'll recalle earlier in the Spring Session Ne passed an amendment dealing With the Probate Actr and it -- primarily addressed one Secticn of that I Act because what we were attempting to do at the time was several thinss: a) was to deal witb the -- the home alone problem, the : kids that were being left home alone; temporary guardians for ' those people who Were suffering fron terminal illness or ! incapacitated, so that they would have a right to choose someone to take care of their children. And the bill had no opposltion. I think it 's probably one of -- the only bill that had unanimous i j support and probably endorsed by every major organization, private and public, in this State. What this bill does, it makes that Act j applicable to a1l of the various other Acts that deals With -- in probate court, and it clarkfies some of the languages in that : i bill. So I wculd just mcve for its adoption. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) ! I Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Hearing none: Senator Collins, to close. ! SENATOR COLLINS: ; Just simply move for its adoption, and I appreciate an Aye vote . PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 The question is, shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on House B111 246. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? Take the record. 0n the question, those voting Aye are 58r those voting Nay are noner Present none. And this Senate does adopt the Conference Committee Report cn House Bill 246. And the blll, havkng recekved the required three-flfths majority, is declared passed. On page 7, House Bi11 299, on the Order of Conference Committee Reports. Mr. Secretary, do you have a flle -- on file a Conference Committee Report on House Bill 299?

First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 299 .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) The Chair recognizes Senator Mahar .

Thank you, Madam President. The First Conference Corrlmittee Report on House Bill No . 299 deals with -- the flrst part deals With Subtitle D language Which Wil1 alloN the IEPA to extend deadlines for compliance with the regulations until April the 8th, '94 for municipal landfills Which accept less than a hundred tons per day , or which accept flood Waste . This has already been approved by tbe -- the Federal EPA; however , they require that We include this in our Statute . Part number two deals with an issue in Senator Rauschenberger 's district : language regarding participation of solid waste disposal in the local siting process. This is agreed-to language. If there are questlons, I Nauld defer to Senator Rauschenberger. There 's also two other items that we included in a previous bill at the request of the Department of Agriculture, which is technical cleanup. I know of no objectionr and would ask t.hat we adcpt Conference Conunlttee Report No . 1 on House Bill 299 . 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Hearing none, Senator Mahar, to close. The questëon is, shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Repcrt on House Bill 299, w1th Amendments l -- Senate Amendment l qsic>: First Conference Committee Report. Those tn favor Will vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The votin: is open. The Ayes are 56 <sic> (57). There are no Nays, l voting Present. And the Senate does adopt the Conference Commlttee Report on House B(ll 299, With Amendment 1 tsic>. And the bill, having received the required three-fifths majority: is declared passed. On page 2 of the Calendar, we're going to House Bills 3rd Reading. House Bi11 795. Senator i Watson, do you wish this bill returned to 2nd Reading for purposes of amendment?

Yes, I would. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Watson seeks leave of the Body to return House Bill 795 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendment. Any objectlon? Hearing no objection, leave is granted. On the Order of 2nd Reading is House Bill 795. Mr. Secretary, are there I ! any Floor amendments approved for conslderation?

M endment No. l, offered by Senators Weaver and Hasara . 1

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Weaver .

Thank you , Madam President. Senate M endment No . 1 to House Bill 795 has to do with -- just to give you a little background: many of the schools in the State of Illinois that started school ! operations in August closed a few minutes or an hour early because of the heat. This Would allow those schools in this school year, 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 1993-94, to stlll qualify for State aid, even though they didn't live up to the letter of the law at the five hours of instructicn. So , that 's basically what it does . If anyone has a question , We had a hearing on this in the Education Conmlittee yesterdayr and I think we -- we tried to answer al1 the concerns that the Members of the Educatian Conmlittee had . So I'd be happy to answer any questions .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any discussion? Senator Berman.

Thank you , Madam President# Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I rise in support of Senator Weaver's motion. We had a very extensive hearing. I appreciate his courtesy and Senator Watson's courtesy in -- in holding the hearing on this subjectr and really what it boiled down to was that somebody failed to watch the clock, and children Would be hurt because of that oversight. whlch amounted to a few minutes. I think because it's only limited -- or limited only to this school year: I'm goinç to support it. I think there is questions that we should look at, and I think it's the intention of the committee to look atr for the future, and I stand in support of this.

PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Hasara .

Thank you , Madam President. I also rise in support of thls resolution <sic> . A cotlple of the affected districts are within Sangamon County, and I appreciate tbe ccoperation and support of the General Assembly . It -- some of the -- a couple of the schools adjourned like ten minutes before the deadline, slmply not reallzing what the length of time was under the Statute , and it seems ridiculous to punish them for an oversight that certainly was unintended . And I appreciake your support . 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislatlve Day Navenber 4, 1993

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discusslon? Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor, say Aye. Al1 opposed. The Ayes bave ity and the amendment is adopted. Are there any further amendments? i

No further amendments reported, Madam President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) 3rd Reading. Senator Watsonr on the Order of 3rd Reading, House Bill 795, as amended. Mr. Secretary, please read the bill.

House Bill 795. ; (Secretary reads title of bl11) ! 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Watson.

Yes, thank you, Madam Presldent. Thls ls the bill that was just discussed. Everyone seened to be in support. I'd ask for your favorable vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discusslon? Any further discussion? Hearing ! none, the question is, shall House Bill 795 pass. Those in favor E l Will vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted who Wlsh? Take the record, please. There are 58 voting Aye, ncne voting Nay, and none voting Present. And thls bill, having received the required three-fifths majority, is declared passed. On page 6, on the Order of Resolutions, Senate Resolution 905. Is this -- Senator, do you wish to have your resolution considered? Senator Watson? SENATOR WATSON: I Yes, ma'am. 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 : ' PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) 1 i Okay. Mr. Secretaryr read the resolution.

Senate Resolution 905, offered by Senators Watson and Philip.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Watson.

Yes. Thank you, Madam Chairman. This is a resolution that we have debated before on this Floor. It creates the Chicago School Turnaround Commlssion. The previous resolution Was adopted, and the Commlsslon has been meeting. In factr I think they've had about three meetings. But from what We understandr there Was a problem With some language that would have allowed the Mincrity Leader to appoint his own suggested Members. So what we're doing here is trying to clear that up. We have -- made a couple of changes, one of which is the number of people who would be appointed. The Presldent of the Senate has nine Members to appoint: and the Minority Leader of the Senate has six Members. And the Commission will meet and the Chairman will report its findings to the General Assembly by May 16th, 1994. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) I I Any further discusslon? Senator Jones.

Yes, thank you, Madam President. Would the sponsor yield?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) He indicates that he will.

Senator Watson, under the resolution that passed previously, and we repassed again, how many appointments did the President have, and how many did the Minority Leader have?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Watson. 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993

In the previous resolution, each had nine. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) l i Senator -- Senator Jones. SENATOR JONES: ' Then this is a -- a -- a decrease in the Minority Leader's appointment. Also, as I read this resolution, it also gives the power of the President to appoint the chairman and to do other l i 1 things. so, what I'm saying to -- so this is a -- not a bipartisan resolution, that had been -- or commission that was put together by Senator Rock. This is a partisan resolution designed solely to give the President a means to appoint and control a Commission on Turnaround, rather than have both parties involved i equally and both parties getting toqether to pick a chairman. Why ' this great departure from the previous resolution? Could you tell us that?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Watson.

Wellr I think under the previous resolutionr there Was a i 1 problen in getting a quorum present because of the fact that there i possibly wasn't the appointments made that -- that should have j been made. The idea here is to glve the -- the President -- he shall appoint the chairman of the Commission also, the President of the Senate, to give nine Members -- actually it would be -- ! ! eight Members Wogld create a quorum. And I think that Was the problem.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Jones.

Well, as you stated in your opening remarks, you said our side i ! - - and if you'll recall, I questioned you very intently on the I i 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Leglslative Day November 4: 1993 previous resolution as to the appointments. How What yau've done with this resolution is that you have reduced the number of i appointments by the Minority Leader. It is no* a bipartisan effort that you are attempting. It was equal appointments in the I previous resolutlon. And when I questioned you on the resolution . ! I - I believe it was in the spring of the year - I Wanted to make that perfectly clear for the record. Now, if the President of the Senate want a commission a1l by himself, then he should so state here. But if it's going to be a bipartisan issue, then you -- lt must be equal number of appointments. It must be nine Democrats and nine -- nine appointed by the Minority Leader, nine appointed 1 by the President. But ycu only have six here. So I mean, this -- I this attempt to have something that is completely controlled by ycur side of the aisle to look at a issue is not in the best interest of education. And I -- I know this is not what you had previously passed. So can you explain why the Minority Leader only has six and the President has nine?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Watson. I SENATOR WATSON: I j Well, that 's not unusual, that we Would set up a commission or i a committee, or any -- any functlon appointed by this particular I Body, by the Leaders, ln which the President or that Preslding Officer would have a greater number of individuals to appoint. That's not very -- that's not unusual at allr Senator. I recall that quite readily during the past Sessions.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) senator pazmer. senator Jones, have you rknisheda I SENATOR JONES: I Well, in speaking to the resolution, and since you were the 1 sponsor this past Session of the revised resolution that gave equal -- so you felt it should be done equally. NoW you're 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 attempting toz on a partisan basis: appoint a commission which l would be dictated by one person. So I urge the Members on this side of the aisle to vote against this, because it is not in the best interests of education in the Chicago public school system . PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) ' Further discussion? Senator Palner. SENATOR PALMER: i j Thank you, Madam President. I want to second what our Leader on this side has said about this so-called Chicago Schools Turnaround Commission. I have been opposed to thls from the outset, and it has been a blpartisan opposition, since I raised questions, even at the time that Senator Rock was President of the Senate. I have -- and particularly in light of the crisis that we have nog with Chicago schools, and the efforts that are going on in so many quarters, I still question why this Commission is @ i necessary, Why people cannot.work through the process that this I legislative Body already put into place, Which involves parentsr teachersy facultyr the community. I do not understand - and especially now that thts is not even bipartisan any nore - Why this is being done. It gives me great concernr and I Would hope that our side would vote No on this.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Hendon.

I Thank you, Madam President. Will the sponsor yield for a question? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) I He indicates that he will.

Senator Watson, you indicated that this Commission has met three or four times already. What -- what kype of business did they take care of in these three -- three or four meetings? 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) I Senator Watson. Senator Watscn.

I didn't hear the question. I'm sorry. Would you please repeat it? '

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Hendon, repeat ycur question, please.

My question 1sr you -- you stated that this Commission has met three or four times. I'm asking you, What -- What bustness did the Commission take -- take care cf during these three or four meetings that they've already had?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Watson.

Well, I know they have met several times. They had an organizational meeting, for one; then they're just taking up the business of the Commisslcn.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Hendon.

Thank you, Madam President. Can you explain to this illustrious Body what is the business of the Commission that they took up?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator -- Senator Watson.

In the resolution, on page 2, ''the Commission shall conslder and analyze methods to aid and assist Chicago school reform groups in effecting a turnaround of the Chicago Public School System.''

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Hendon. 1 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 I

What you did, you read from the resolution, but is that what they did? That's what they did, or you don't know what they did? Perhaps they didn't do anything, which is what I am suggesting. And I don't know about any of you, but I -- I Watched the results of the election the other day, and it was clear to me that the ; people are tired of -- of these duplicative commissions, of ' i wasting of the taxpayers' money. And I gould just suggest to you that this is another waste of the taxpayers' money, and I don't I believe that the people of this State are willing to allow you -- or any commission to be created which is duplicative in nature. That is slmply a waste of the taxpayers' money. And I believe that We a11 should get that message on both sides of the aisle, that waste of the taxpayers' money Ls -- is no longer acceptable. Also, Senator Watson, in -- in the original resolution, it said ! I that the Commisslon would reflectr based on the 1990 Census, the ethnic and racial makeup of the City of Chicago. Thatds no longer in khere either. So no -- not only did you strip the Minority Leader of -- of being on an equal basis, but you've also taken out that language that would make sure that the Commission was racially and eEhnically balanced. Why did you do that? Why did you take that out?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Watson. I i

Well, Senator, Iîm not quite sure. Quite frankly, I -- I really don't know . But I look at the list of people wha we have appointed, and I -- and I've got to tell you, there -- there are reformists Who are involved in the reforn process: and they are people whc are -- have a genuine concern about the public schools of Chicagc. And if you would look at this list, I think you would concur that these people have a sincere interest in trying to do 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 what's right. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Hendon. 1 I SENATOR HENDON: . Wellz I'm not going to belabor the pointy but I -- I -- I asked you, simply, why did you take that out of your legislatlon. Now a11 of us carry leglslationy and if it's your bill -- if it's your resolution, you should be able to tell me why you took out ; that important part of it. If you're real about about reform, if i 1 you 're real about -- about the Commission reflecting the racial and ethnic makeup of the City of Chicago, Why did you take it out? And I'd still like an answer to that -- to that question. .. . lmlcrophone cutoffl...by you or a staffer or our illustrious President, somebody took it out, and they had to have a reason to take it out. I'd hate to suggest that the reason to take it out was because you did not want a racially and ethnically balanced Commisslon; therefore, I have to simply ask the question so that I'd have some other -- something else to base it on. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Senator Watson. SENATOR WATSON: i 1 Well, it's the same answer as I gave previously. I'm not sure Why that Was taken out. I -- I just wish you'd look over the list of people who -- Who have been appointed, and -- and I think you'll flnd that the racial balance that you're concerned with has been -- has been addressed. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Hendon, your final remarks? Thank you. Any further 1 ' discussion? Any further dlscussion? Senator Watson, to close. I ' SENATOR WATSON : Well, thank you. Well, I hope that we would get unanimous support for this, because if you -- if you just know the people 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 that are involved here and the -- the sincere interest they have in seeing a true turnaround in the Chlcago public schools -- and anybody who doesn't think that there's not a problem, really isn 't I - - isn 't aWare Of -- Lf the situation. I mean, it's -- it's a sad indictment on the system in which only graduates about fifty -- less than fifty percent of the kids who enter as freshmen. These people are going to meet and come back to us and give us some ; basic recommendations for change, and that change is to create a i 1 better environment for the young people of Chicagoy the four hundred and eleven thousand young people who attend the Chicago public schools. I see nothing wrong with this. I see nothing threatenin: about this. And I think it's the right direction to E go. I would appreciate a support. i PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) I i I Senator Watson mcves the adoption of Senate Resolutlon 905. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Those opposed Will vate Nay. And the voting ls now open. Mr. Secretary, take the record. Have al1 voted who wished? Have -- already voted. There are 32 Aye votesr 24 Nay votesr 1 Presenty and this resolution is adopted. Wefre going to Supplemental Senate Calendar and -- No. 1, and on the i Secretary's Desk: there 's Resolution -- HJR 73. We bre going to pass it temporarllyy and we're going onto -- with leave of the i ! Body. Leave? Thank you. Leave of the Body to return. It's House Joint Resclution 95 -- I'm sorry. It's House Joint Resolution 85. Senator Syverson. Senator Syverson there? Mr. -- Madam Secretary, Will you please read the resolution.

i House Joint Resolution 85, offered by Senators Syverson and I ! Lapaille. 1 :

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Syverson.

I 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 Thank your Madam Chairman -- President. Very sinple resolution. As we knowr with the passing of Representative Zeke Giorgi, who was the Representative from the Rockford area for almost thirty yearsr there was a -- a move in the past by Representative Rotello to change the name of the building, and of course, Zeke would always say no, Which was typical of Zeke. Well, this ls an opportunity where we can -- we can change the name of the building wlthout him bein: able to object to it. Obviously, I had the privilege of Working with Zeke for -- for one year, previous to that as a businessman, however, as many times we called upon Zeke for -- for his help: and he was always there to Work With us. He Was obviously best known for his constituent services. And actuallyy having an office next to his for -- for this year and seeing hoW busy he -- he was, I think it's -- lt clearly is fitting that the -- We have an cpportunity to change the name of the building from the Rockford State of Illinois Building to the Zeke Giorgl Center. I know of no objection. This passed the House unaninously. I'm not sure if Senator Lapaille Wants to make a few comments on that. We just ask for a favorable vote for that.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Further dlscussion? Senator Lapaille. SENATOR LaPAILLE: Thank you, Madam Speaker...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Just a moment. It would be appreciated if We could have a little more attention. Thank you. Senator Lapaille. SENATOR LaPAILLE: Thank you, Madam President. I do jcin with Senator Syverson on this resolution honoring, I think, a true legislator's legislator. Zeke Giorgi -- I met him when I was approximately flfteen years o1d when I became associated with Speaker Madigan, i 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 and I can tell you, through those twenty-four years, Zeke Was a person cf impeccable honor, a person that could llght up a room when he came onto the House Floor or Senate Floor or into a meeting. He never took anything very, very seriously, and it Was good in .the legislative process not to think that a11 of this is for real and -- and to create enemies and divisions, and he brought that type of an approach where he was able to work in a bipartisan manner. And he's a person that I will be missing - I think we'll all be missing. And I think this is one of a snall token to show our appreciation for his great work and his great love for this process and his great frlendship to a11 of us. So I do join with Senator Syversonr am very honored to be a chief cosponsor with him on this resolution.

PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Further discussion? Senator Hall.

Thank your Madam President. I certainly rise in support of this. I served in the House some twenty-seven years ago When Zeke Giorgi was therer and as a matter of fact, he greeted me with open arms when I came there. This would be a great -- and want to congratulate a11 of us to say that we had the honor of naming this building the Zeke Giorgi thing. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Senator Syverson, to close.

I think this just gives us an opporEuniEy for -- for Zeke's children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren, and for the people of Rockford, to long remember that to be a great leader, you do not have to be a wealthy businessmanr a powerful politiclan, or even a college graduate. But if you have a love for people and a willingness to serve them, you can make a difference in your community. And I think this is a -- one small 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 step that we can take in that memory. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Jones, for what purpose do you rise?

' Yeah. Thank you, Madam President. I too rise in strcng support of this resolution. I first met Zeke when I served in the House back in 1973, and just thls past August, her my wife and his wife, we were on a trip together, and we visited the Holy Land . He indicated he always Wanted to get there. He Was a great legislator. He was a person that we al1 admired and respecty and, Madam Presidentr I -- I Would like to move to add all Members of this side of the aisle be added as cosponsors of this resolution.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Your request is in order. And we'll have -- We dll mcve the -- the adoption of the resolution is moved by Senator Syverson. And those in favor will say Aye. Those opposed Will say Nay. And please take a roll call, so that we can a11 be on it. Ring the bell. Clerk -- Madam Secretary, take the record . There are 58 Yeas, none voting No, none voting Present. And thls resolution is unanimously adopted. Senator Syverson, are you ready on Senate Joint Resolution 101? Madam Secretary, wculd you please read the resolution.

Senate Joint Resolution 101, offered by Senators Syverson, Burzynski and others.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Syverson.

Thank you: Madam President. This is a resolution that -- hopefully that we will not be using. We're dcing thls to pass this over tc the House only because the bill that -- that carries the amendment that I think will clean up the insurance adjusters' 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 bill is coming up later. But just to make sure there's no problemy We 're asking for your support for this resolution. i Baslcally, what it says is we're asking the Departnent of , Regulation not to enforce the neW language Which was Written thls . last year, because of some wording changes. What's happened isr independent insurance adjusters will basically be put out of buslness because of the way the wording of the new law was done. Again, that was not the intent of the Departnent of Regulation or ' the Department of Insurance, and -- a11 Wedre doing now is -- is asking then to use this until we can get the language cleared up . Again, I don't know of any objection. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further dlscussicn? Any further discussion? Senator Syverson, to close. SENATOR SYVERSON: Just a favorable vote. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Those -- Senator Syverson moves the adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 101. Those ln favor w111 say Aye. Those -- opposed Will say Nay . And the voking is now open. Have al1 voted Who wished? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that question, there are 58 Ayes, none voting Present, none voting Nay. And the resolution is adopted. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Earlier we asked leave of the Body to return to House Joint Resolution 73. Senator Dudycz. Read the resolutiony Madam Secretary. ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER: House Joint Resoluticn 73, offered by Senators Dudycz and Berman . PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Dudycz. 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993

Thank you, Madam President. Senate Joint -- House Joint Resolution 73 was brought to me by one of my House Members: Representative Ralph Capparellir himself a senior citizen. The purpose of the resolution is to have the General Assembly reaffirm the fact that senior citlzens are greatly affected by a11 leglslation submitked before the General Assembly and that We hope that the resolution Will keep seniors in the minds of Members in considering the merits of all legislation. Basically, that's What it does.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any discussion? Any discussion? Seeing noney Senator Dudycz moves the adoption of House Joint Resolutton 73. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting is cpen. Have a1l voted who Wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? Take the reccrd, Madam Secretary. On that resolutionr there are 58 Ayes, no Naysy and none voting Present. House Joint Resolution 73r having received the required votes, is adopted . On the Order of -- Secretary 's Desk, Concurrence, is Senate B11l 95. Madam Secretary.

House Amendments 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 to Senate Bill 95.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Wocdyard, to explain.

Thank you, Madam PresidenE. 1...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Excuse me, Senator Woodyard, just a second, please. Senator Cullerton, for what purpose do you rise?

Thank you, Madam President. We'd like to ask for a Democratic Caucus immediately. Itf11 take about a half hour in Sena*or 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 Jones' Office. We'd like to do it prior to this bill being called.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) That is always in order. Senator Cullertcn has requested a Democrat Caucus immediately in Senator Pate -- or Senator Jones' Office. How long do you think youdll be# Senator Cullerton? About a half an hour?

Yeah. The same half hour you took.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Okay. The Senate Will stand in recess till the hour of 2 o'clock. (SENATE STANDS IN RECESS) (SENATE RECONVENES)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) (machine cutoffl...senate will reconvene for the purposes of paperwork only: and the Senator -- and the Chair recognizes Senator Demuzio.

Thank you, Madam President. I understand that this is only for the purpose of reading ln the Rules Committee Report. I have talked to Senator Jones, and Senator Jones indicates that for that purpose only, wedre willing to go back into Session and then recess again for the caucus.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Committee Reports.

22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 Senator Weaver, Chair of the Commlttee on Rules, reports that the following Leglslative Measures have been assigned to I committees: referred to the Appropriations Committee - Senate Amendnent 1 to House Bill 26; and Be Approved for Consideration - House Bill 2082 and Conference Committee Report .2 to Senate Bill 498.

PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senate stands in recess till the hour -- Senator Maitland, for what purpose do you rise? SENATOR MATTLAND: 2 1 Thank your Madam Presidenty for the purpose of an l announcement. There wl11 be a -- an Appropriation Committee Reeting at 2:35 in Room 212.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senate stands in recess to the hour of 2. (SENATE STANDS IN RECESS) (FIRST SPECIAL SESSION RECONVENES) (See First Special Session Transcript) (SENATE RECONVENES)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) i Regular Session Will come to order. Mr. -- Introduction of ! i Bills. ! I

Senate Bill 1139: offered by Senator Hendon. i (Secretary reads title of bill) lst Reading of the bill. j 23  STATE 0E ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) . Committee Reports.

Senator Maitland, Chair of the Committee on Appropriations, reports Senate Amendment No . l to House Bill 26 Be Adopted.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Resolutions.

Senate Resolution 918, offered by Senator Severns and a11 Democrat Members. Senate Resolution 919, offered by Senator Weaver. They're both congratulatoryr Madam President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Consent Calendar.

.. . tmachine cutoffl...senate -- Senate Jolnt Resolution 103, offered by Senator Weaver. (Secretary reads SJR No. 103) PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Weaver.

Thank you, Madam President. I would ask for the suspension of the rules for the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 103. PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Weaver moves Eo suspend the rules for the purpose of the immediate consideration of -- adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 103. Those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The rules are suspended. Now Senator Weaver moves for the adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 103. Those in favor, say Aye. Opposedr Nay. The Ayes have it, and the resolution is adopted. Senator Mahar, for what purpose do you rlse? Senator 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 Mahar. Why don't you go to Senator Dudycz?

Thank you, Madam President. If this is the appropriate time, I'd like to seek leave of the Body to be shown as the chief sponsor of Senate Bill 1043, and it should ready therefore, ''Mahar-shaw''

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Mahar seeks leave of the Body to be added as a sponsor of Senate Bill 1003 <sic> (1043). Is leave granted? Leave is granted. On Senate -- Supplemental Calendar No . 1, under the Order of Secretary's Desk, Concurrence, is Senate Bill 95. Madam Secretary, read the bill.

House Amendments 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 to Senate Bill 95.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Woodyard.

Thank your Madam...tnicrophone malfunctionl...Members of the Senate. I would ask leave to take Senate Bill 95 out of the recordr With the provisian that we can get back to it ln just a short -- short while.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Leave is granted. Out of the reccrd. Senator Weaver, on Senate Bill 2327 Madam Secretary, read the bill, please.

House AmendmenE No. 3 to Senate Bill 232.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Weaver.

Thank you, Madam President. I would move to concur with House Amendment 3 to Senate Bill 232. This amendment amends the Financial Securities Development Act by changing Section 8 - 1 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 Amendments of governing agreements. The amendmentr amongst other things, requires financial lnstitutions to mall or deliver a clear and conspicuous written notice of a change in terms to the original agreement governing the revolving credit plan. It also requires the financial institutions to include an addressed postcard that the borrower may return to the financial institution objecting to a change in the terms. To avoid any possible inadvertent disclosures of the borrower's financial records, the intent of subparagraph (c)(5) is for the financial institution to include a response card that the borrower may return in an envelope, instead of on just a postcard. This amendment passed the House last week l03 to nothing. I don't know of any -- I know there are some concerns, but certainly there's no political concerns in Amendment No. 3. I would be happy to try to answer any question any Member has; otherwise, I Would move adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any discussion? Senator Lapaille. SENATOR LaPAILLE: Just to put this bill in perspective, for, as Senator Weaver said, it did come out of the House 103 to 0. Ellis Levln voted Yes for this bill. Jan Schakowsky, she voted Present. Sor she didn't even oppose it, but she voted Present. So Ellis Levin was a Yes vote on this bill, and you know Ellis is a consumer fighter, a Ralph Nader supporter. And if he could vote Yes, I think We could -- a11 could vote Yes.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) senator carroll.

Thank your Madam Presidentr Members of the Senate. Because of the explanatlons I had received of differing information, I rise to oppose the legislation, which originally I thought I Would be supporting. And let me explain the difference. It's my 26  1 I STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 understanding that the purpose of this bill will allow credit card issuers ta change the interest rate on items you have already bought and have been paying off on time - not to change the interest rate for something you buy next week, but to change the lnterest rate for something you may have bought last month or last year and have been paying off on contract over time at a set rate. I was led to believe that the only time they could raise the rate was if a consumer failed to pay their bill two bills in a rowz in other words, if for sixty days the credit card user stiffed the credit company, in which case they were going to raise the lnterest rate. I personally have nc problem with that at all. I think it's absolutely appropriate. That Was the information I received yesterday. I'm advised today by both staffs that that is not the case; that you could be paying for sonething you purchased cn a credlt card last year, paying it timely al1 the Way throughr and they declde now to raise that interest rate in the mlddle of your payment period. What are your choices? They will send you a postcard informing you of that. Now if that postcard is not -- is just being sent to you, first of all, how do you know that the consumer got it? Secondly, if it's a pastcard: the mailman and everyone else in the world now knows your credit card number. I don't think that's the brightest way to do it. And thenz if I understand it correctly, your choices are: you can send it in that you don't want them to do it, in which case they cancel your card; or, if you don't send it in, they ratse the interest rate on all that you have owed already, even though you have been timely paying it. That's not what was explained to me yesterday. Now that both staffs have explalned it to me, I think lt's a horrible idea.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Weaver.

27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY I REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 I senator carroll, I think you are incorrect. The -- the notice will be sent with your billing r in an envelope . It Won 't be exposed to the postman or anyone else who mlght go through your mail. And in sending it back , they will provide an envelope to be 1)ut in -- the postcard to be put in where you object to any raise. . I i And if you object to that ratse on extsting -- on existing loans, I they cannot raise the rate. It's not retroactive. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) ' Further discussion? Senator Rea.

Thank you, Madam President. I rise in support cf Senate Bill 232 because Illinois has fallen behind some of the other states, such as Delaware and South Dakotaz from attracting financial institutions that issue and process credit card businesses. And Senate Bill 232 deals with debt ratification and puts Illinois on an equal basis with both of these other statesr which are leading credit card states. And current Illinois 1aw creates a competitive disadvantage, and I feel that this is a bill that We should pass and would ask for your Aye vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Further discussion? Senator Tcm Dunn.

Thank you, Madam President. Well, Senator Carroll makes a distinction here about the fact that the credit card company can raise your rate in the interim period when you have an existing balance, as if that's something new. It is not new. Seventy percent of the credit cards that are issued in this country are issued from South Dakota, from Nevada and from Delaware, and in that seventy percent, those state laws permit exactly the sane thing. So we already have that aspect here in Illinois, because Illinois has seventy percent of their cards, roughly, from those stakes. The ckher issue that you should be concerned with is the 28  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY 1 REGULAR SESSION ' SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 ' fact about jobs, and this is having an impact on jobs, because the hottest credlt card today is the General Motors credit card. There are in Illinois three thousand people that Work on the General Motors credit card r strictly alone. Youdve seen other companies follow that. Ford Motor Company has followed itp Chrysler has followed it, so it's a hot card. We 're also talking about jobs in thisr and this is more jobs for Illinois. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) i Further discussion? Further discussion? Senator Weaverr to close. ' ! SENATOR WEAVER: I 1 Well, thank you, Madam President. I Would just move to concur in House Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 232 and request a favorable roll call. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) : This is final action. The question ls, shall the Senate concur in House Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bl11 232. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The votlng is open. Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? Have al1 voted Who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 31 Ayes, 22 Naysr and 1 voting Present. The ! I Senate does concur in House Amendment No. 1 <sic> (3) to Senate Bill 232, and the billy havlng received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. ...tmachine cutoffl...conference Committee Reports is Senate Bill 405. ! Senator Rea . Madam Secretary, read the bill. ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER : First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 405. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Rea. E SENATOR REA: i I Thank you, Madam President. Senate Bill 405, Conference 1 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH REGU EN LE ARAL SEA SSS IE OM NBLY 1 SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 ! Committee Report 1r amends the Vehicle Emissions Testing Chapter of the Vehicle Code to provide for upgrades and enhancements of j i the Vehicle Emissions and Inspection Program as required by the Clean Air Act, which was amended in 1990 at the federal level, which affected many of our State programs. Senate Bill 405 .Wi1l achieve a thirty-percent reduction of the pollutants from vehicles - forty-fcur tons per day over the current program in the Chicago area - and it will also achieve a six-percent reduction from vehicles - seven tons per -- over the current program in the metro-east area. There is some geographic expansion of the Program , Which is required by Congress: Which Will result ën a ! five-percent increaser which will include two -- tWo hundred and nineteen thousand vehicles in the number of vehicles in the Chicago area and a hundred-and-twenty-one-percent increase in the i I metro-east area. Therebll be eleven new testing stations that I will be constructed: eight in the Chicago area and three in the ; metro-east area. Eifteen million in federal funding has been committed for FY'94, FY'95 and '96 - a reimbursement-based fund to cover capital costs, and I mlght also point out that there are no additional motor fuel tax funds that will be used. A State implementation plan must be submitted to the USEPA after this legislation beccmes law for approval by November the 15th of this year. Land acquisitlon and construction must begin in order to comply with the Clean Air Act requirements. Sanctlons for failure to upgrade the program includes a loss of seven hundred and ten million in federal highway funds. I Would ask fcr an Aye vate on this, and also, if there's any questionsr b0th Senator Mahar and myself will be glad to respond.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any discussion? Any discussion? Senator Fawell.

Thank you very much. The hour is late and I know a lot of i 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 people really don't carer but I just Would like to point out a feW things. Number oner Chicago is not out of compliance this year. Last year they were out of compliance two hours tWo hours for the entire year. We have progressively made inroads upon any kind of pollution that is caused by the cars over the last several years since we have had this stupid bill in place. Naw we are going to expand into counkies that have never been out of compliance. Dupage has not been out of canpliance for over three years. Before that, we were out of compliance for a11 of half of an hour for the entire year. When I went to Washlngton a few years ago and asked them why they inslst that we have to do this, I was informed that it was because Milwaukee Was complaining . Milwaukee is complaining, and therefore, we must spend forty millicn dollars clean up air that right now ls at zero level as far as pollution is concerned. I was also informed Gary, Indiana, is conplaining . So we nust spend forty million dollars and have our people be subject to increased repair bills, up to four hundred and fifty dollars per vehicley if they cannot pass the emissions test and have to ask for a waiver. To ny knowledger -- our congressmen were not contacted. I have personally contacted Congressman Lipinski and Congressman Ewing, and they claim they know nothing about this bill. I presume this bill is going to fly. I would just like to remlnd my colleagues when they come around and ask -- our constituents ask why they have to spend four hundred and fifty dollars to repair their vehicle, may I suggest we put a banner over the enisslons testing station and say, ''Welcome to President Clinton's newest mandate.'' Thfs is a bad bill; we ought to defeat

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Further discussion? Senator Petka.

Thank you very much, Madam President, Members of the Senate. 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 There comes a time in the life of an elected official when We must say, ''Enough it enough.'' There can be no clearer tlme, in my opiniony than this bill. Senator Fawell has -- has put her finger on the hct button. There is no allegation that there is noncompliance in the areas which are now going to be.comin: under federal regulation and jurisdiction. A11 we have here is a simple case of some high-minded masters in Washington and their bureaucratic allies who have made a decision that when we send money to them through our taxes, that the only way that we're going to get our money back from them is lf We play according to rules that they set up that simply have no relationship - none whatsoever - to the quality of -- of our air. This is one of the worst examples that I can think of of a federal government that is blackjacking and extorting from its citizens compliance With rules which make no sense. A country and western singer sald...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Petka...

.. . ''You 've got to stand for somethlng, or youdll fall for anything.''

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Petka, hate to interrupe your for just a second, but I believe Senator Rea has somethlng to say . Senator Rea.

Madam President: I would like to take Senate Bill 405 out of the record.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Out of the record. With leave of the Body, Committee Reports.

Senator Weaver, Chairman of the Committee on Rules, reports that the following Legislative Measures have been assigned to committees: Referred to Executive Committee - Senate Amendment No.  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day Novenber 4, 1993 l to House Bill 2082) Be Approved for Consideration - motlcn to concur with House Amendment No. 7 to Senate Bill 95. Slgned by Senator Weaver, Chairman, the Committee on Assignment -- pardon me, on Rules. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) . On Supplemental Calendar No. 2 ls Senate Bill 498. Senakor Topinka? Madam Secretary, read the bill.

Second Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 498.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Topinka.

Yes. Madam President, and Ladles and Gentlemen of the Senate, Conference Commlttee No. 2 on Senate Bill 498 is probably best known and easiest -- explained on thls Floor by noting that this ls the National Guard employment security bill which indeed tries to make sure that our guardsmen - men and women - Who served so adnirably during the floods and durlng the problems that we have had here, are ensured that when they come home, their jobs will be there for them ; they will receive no harassment. Obviously, We don't want to make some -- such difficulty for them on this that people don't jotn the Guard, because much like firemen, we don't appreciate the National Guard until We are in trouble. And b0th the fire -- and paramedics, as well, as Senator Raica Would note. We just appreciate them all. And that's -- that is the biggest part of this bill. There are other parts of this bill Nhich would postpone the due dates and enacting -- and interest penalties for 1993. It's permissive on the part of counties to allow this to be done for those areas that would be hi* by the flood . It also -- we have included parts of Cook County that also suffered a -- a flood earlier in the year at -- that those Representatives and ! Senators who come out of Chicago duly called to our attention. I 33  STATE 0F ILLINOIS I 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY 1I REGULAR SESSION ! SENATE TRANSCRIPT ! 86th Legislative Day November 4 , 1993 ; That is included in here; so they are dealt with fairly. It has a number of other provisions. I would be happy to ansger other -- any other questicns, but I think everybody has fully signed off on it. Thls flew ll4 to 0 in the House. I'd like a similar roll 1 call here. I

PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Discussion? Senator Demuzio.

Rise in support, ask for your favorable ccnsideration, ask for a roll call.

PRESIDIHG OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHOE) Senator Topinkar to close? The questton isr shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 498. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who Wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted who gish? Take the record. On that question, there are 55 Ayes, no Nays and none voting Present. The Senate does adopt Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 498: and tbe bkllr having received the required three-flfths majority vote, ls declared passed. On your regular Calendar, page 2, House Bills 3rd Reading: is Senate Bill -- or House Bill 26. Senator Maitlandr do you Wish to have that bill returned to 2nd Readkng for the purposes of amendment? Senator Maitland seeks leave of the Body, return House Bll1 26 to the Order of 2nd Readkng for the purposes of an amendment. Hearing no objectionr leave is granted. On the Order of 2nd Reading is House Bill 26. Madam Secretary, are there any Ploor anendments approved for consideration?

Amendment No. 1, offered by Senator Malkland .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Maitland, to explain the amendment. SENATOR MAITLAND: I i 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislatlve Day November 4, 1993 Thank you very much, Madam President and Members of the Body. i If it be the will of the Body, we would just seek to adopt the amendment and -- and move the bill to 3rd Reading, and then We'11 debate the issue at that point, if that's al1 right with the Body.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Any discussion? Seeing none, Senator Maitland moves the adoptlon of Senate Amendment No. l to House Bill 26. A1l those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. We should have a vote on thls. I'm sorry. I'm reading -- al1 those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Take the record. On that questionr there are 56 Ayesr 1 Nayr none voting Present. The amendment is adopted. Are there any further Floor amendments?

No further amendments, Madam President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) 3rd Reading. NoW ... Senator Maitlandr on Hcuse Bill 26. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 26. (Secretary reads tltle of bill) 3rd Readlng of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Maitland.

Thank you very much, Madam President and Members of the Senate. House Bi11 26 does represent a scaled-down version of the supplemental appropriation bill, House Bill 4, that passed out of this Body several weeks ago. It essentially deals with only those areas that are essential to the operation of State government between now and January. We have taken al1 the other areas -- 35 I STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 ; other issues out of the bill. It does -- it does appropriate three hundred and twelve mllllon dollars -- three hundred and i twelve milllcn six hundred and forty-five thousand dollars in total funds, thirty million of which is General Revenue money. Most of this deals, againr with -- with the -- With the issue of ! I - - of flood relief. In addition to those areas which have already been talked about previously, we did retain the language that was asked for by the Secretary of State and the authorization of those funds; the additional nursing hone grant revenue; the DMH/DD transfer from Public Aid; the ISAC saving bond transfer; DPA child care money, to capture federal dollars; the ISBE capital transfer; the Deputy Auditor General money, and also and finally, to the family of our -- our departed friendy Zeke Giorgi, the appropriation -- Zeke Giorgi, the money necessary to -- to pay the family for what they have coming. And therefore, Madam President, I stand ready to answer any questions today that Members of the Body might have. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any discussion? Any discusslon? Senator Carroll. SENATOR CARROLL: Thank you, Madam President and Members of the Senate. I Will be brief; we 've been through this before. f am , as a individual Kember, and I believe speaking for our side of the aisle, uniquely supportive of the funds to replace the monies spent in flood relief. I think the State employees d1d a outstanding job and went well abcve and beyond the call of duty in a time of crisis, and obviously, there should be no impediment to them doing their normal course of work while they use the funds necessary to do flood relief. I have a concern still with the way in which the Governor and the Republican Party is trying to divide our State. I thlnk it's wrong. I think it's the wrong message to be sendin: to the three million people of Chicago, most lmportantly to the 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION I SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86*h Leglslative Day November 4, 1993 four hundred and eleven thousand students in the Chicago system , and mcst, most importantly to those seven or eighty thousand students who are lcoking tc graduate from either their elementary or high school program in Chlcago. Mount Morris has the same problem . There is a difference: The Governor has chosen - the Republican Leadership has chosen - to loan State noney to Mount ' Morris. The Governor has chosen - the Republican Leadership has I chosen - not even to allow chicago to help ltself. While they dre i willing to bail out Mount Mcrris, and that's a laudable purpose, they are not willing to allow self-help a:ainst the tax base in Chicago so that the Chicago kids could have the same comfort. We are not against Mount Morris. We are not against Carml, where now the Governor has declded to send the Superintendent of Educaticn down there to try and help that system. We are not against Chicago. Itds a shame that the other side of the aisle is not the same way.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Demuzio .

Thank you very much. In all due respect to Senator Carrcll, I've been around here long enough too, just a little shorter than you have, and I know that sometlmes you have to take the good with the bad. I think it's time that we finally get the flood relief money to the people who need it the mcst, and worry about the other problems when We get there. I am commltted to helping Chicago, and I think time has come, and this is the second kime. I hope we don 't revlsit this thing when we come back next week or the week after.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further dlscussion? Senator Hendon.

Thank you, Madam Chairman. And I -- I would ask my colleagues ! 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Leglslative Day November 4: 1993 to please give me a -- a little attention here, a little respecty since I didn't get any in the Appropriations Committee. I might add, I -- I kind of expected some in the Appropriations Committee, but I was not shocked that I didn't get any. But I do expect to get some in this Body . We have a sericus problemr and I Want to bring it to the attention of all the Members, and that is, either wedre golng to follcw the rules that we voted on, or we are not. Now, I am accusing the Chairman of the Appropriations Committee today with disrespecting, disregardin: and tramplin: on the -- my rights as a Member of the Appropriations Committee to call for a division of the question. I also am accusing the Chairman of Appropriations to allow his staffer, the one standing right there with hls head on his jaw, to disrespect or attempt to disrespect me, Senator Hendon, a Member of this august Body. NoW I might do a lot of things, but I don't disrespect anybody in this Chamber. Each and every one of us was duly elected by the people of our district, and I will certainly not allow any staffer: who is ncthing but a hired indlvidual, to disrespect -- anyone on my staff to disrespect any Senator. And this staffer was heard clearly by me saying to his -- the Chairman of Appropriations, ''Ahy just shut him down.'' Well, I'm gcing to let you know: my friends, nobody shuts me down - nobody. I am not going to accept it. Nowr I want to turn the Chairman of Appropriatlons' attention to our rules, 'cause obvlously etther he has not read them, or he simply does nct respect them. And I'm saying to each and every one of you, it is dangerous when We trample on the rules <sic> of any Member in this Body. Our rules, on page 1r Section 1-2, dlscusses that a11 committees are committees of this Senate, and therefore, are bound by the rules of this Senate. Section l-3 discusses the Senate belng ruled and governed by the Constitution of the State of Illinois. 1-4, al1 legislative natters, be they amendments and so on and so forth, has to come under the rules of 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION I SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 this committee . Nowy simply called for a division of the questton - a diviston of the question - whkch clearly , on page 28 of our rules, as well as in Robert's Rules of Order, is ln order. Page 28, Sectkon 7-14. And maybe you don't expect a young Senator from Chicago to know the rules, but I da. Maybe you expect ne to just be the typical -- what you think is a typkcal Chtcago legislator ln your idea, but am not. I know the rules; I read the rules; understand the rulesr and I expect you, Chairman Maitland, to respect the rules. Now: I called for a division of the questton. I asked Chairman Maitland, how could he rule tbat I do not get a division of the question. He could not state one Statute, not one sentence, nothing at all in the rules that satd that had no right to call for a division of the question. He just decided, in his own imperial way - I guess he figures hets the Shah of Iran or somethlng - that he was just going to say that just couldn't do it, based on nothing more than the fact that he wants to say I can 't do it. That is krong, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. is wrong. I can go on and on and on and on. Page 268 of Robert's Rules of Order, of which this Senate is governed when it applkes, says that I have a right to call for the division of a question when the -- when the issues at hand are not related. I do not believe that Mount Morris schools are related to the floods at all, nor do I believe that a number of other items in this bill are related to the flood . But our Chairman, our illustrious Chairman, decided on his own that he's just going to trample on my rights, and I'm just going to let him know, I could easily go -- said, ''Go to circuit courtv'' I could gc to circuit court, but if I go to circuit court, everything we voted on in Approp will be thrown back and this entire thing will be held in abeyanee. And you know that that is the truth. So I have just one question to you, Senator Maitland, and I'd appreciate it yousd turn your -- you would turn around and face me when I 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 ask you. END OF TAPE TAPE 2

Question: Do you have the rlght to trample on the rights of any Member of ycur committee?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Are you finished, Senator Hendon? Okay. Senator Hendon; youdre -- now ycu're recognized, so repeat your statement.

Are the rules of the -- is the Appropriations Committee governed by the Rules of the Senate of Illinois? Yes or no.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator DeAngelis. For What purpose dc you rise, Senator Hendon?

I was -- believe I had the Floor. asked a question, and I was waiting for the answer befcre I asked my final question. The -- the question is not rhetorical.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator DeAnqelis.

Wellz you can -- you can say rhetorical if you wish. say it's not.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator DeAngelis. Senator Hendon. Senator Hendon. Senator DeAngelis, for What purpose do you rise? 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislatlve Day November 4, 1993

In an attempt to answer the question, and would wish that the person who does not want me to speak would show me as much respect as he demands himself. The question to that the answer to that question isr you cannot divide a questicn a conference committee report.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Dudycz.

Well, Madam President: I just rise on a point of personal privilege.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) State ycur polnt.

You know, I understand Senator Hendon's frustrations, as a freshman Member of a Minority Party in the Senate. I -- too felt those frustrations a few years ago When I was a freshman legislator, and I'd just like to remind my colleague on the other side that this is the Illinois Senatey not the city councily Senator. And we do have some decorum herer and we do show respect for each other in -- ln this Body. And I would appreciate you to show as much respect for my colleague, as I am shcwlng you now, and as we show each other. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Jones.

Yes. Thank your Madam President. Just ln response to the statement made by the distinguished Chairman, Ehis is noE a conference committee report. We recognize that you cannot divide the question, as such. think the question at hand here is whether or nct in the committeer a Member asked that the question be divided, does that Member have the right to have a 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 separate vcte? We recognize what the rules say on conference committee report. But cn -- in -- in -- in the committee, when youlre dkscusstng a issue that is not a conference committee report, can such a question be -- be divided, if such? That is the issue at hand, and. then we can get on with the business of the Senate.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Demuzio.

On a point of personal privilege, 1et me -- 1et me just say that I -- I -- with respect tc the argument that we are having here, it seems to me that perhaps what we should have done in committee was to allow the motlon to separate the question, and on a partisan roll call, have it voted down. Ifm trying to recall, in my nineteen years, of the division of the question in the committee. think kt's one, perhaps, that we have gotten into koday, and perhaps somethlng we ought to look at, Senator Maitlandr from henceforth on, and not get ourselves a1l tied up into this particular debate cn this particular motion. Maybe there is some -- some room for us to discuss this at a later date. But it seems to me that it could have been handled with some dispatch by simply a partisan roll call. Nowr there might have been some other reason why you didn't want to address that that issue in committee, but maybe it's something that We ought to perhaps prevent in the future and take a look at. And by the time we come back here in Januaryy maybe we could -- we wouldn't have this kind af debate that's taking place on the Floor. And -- and - - I request that we just move on.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator DeAngelis, for a seccnd time.

Yes. I just wanted to state that stand corrected on the 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day Novenber 4, 1993 conference committee; however, this was a single amendment, as a conference committee would be, and ycu cannot divide the questlon on a sinçle amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Hendon, for a second time.

It was clear to me that this was not a conference commiteee report, that's number one. To my friend and -- and -- and good friend, Senator Dudycz, I nost certainly respect you and would never shcw any disrespect for you; however, when ny rights are trampled upon, as they were in the committee - all I asked for was a vote. If I had lost, I would have been through with But I am going to at least get a vote, Walterz and I have a right to stand up and demand that my rights be respected. Now, When my rights are disrespected, then -- then, hey, it's Katie barring the door. You hit me; I'm gcing to hit you back. The Chairman dlsrespected me; his staffer disrespected mer and that's -- and I am reacting accordingly.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Peterson.

I move the previous question.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Maitlandr to close.

Thank you very nuchr Madam President and Members of the Senate. House Bill 26 is lndeed a very important piece of legislation that needs to pass out of this Chamber today, and I -- I -- respeck most of the comments that were made on the other side on this issue. respectfully disaqree with my good friend, Senator Carroll, on this issue. think it is -- I think it is separate. Ves, the Governor had this in his -- in h1s 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 recommendation for Mount Morris, but indeed the Governor of this ! i State has worked very hard in advancing a progran to deal with the ! Chicago CriSeS. And indeed We Stil1 Continue to have solle I dlffiCkllties therey and I'11l Convinced With the leadership Lf Ehe $ ' j Governor, we're going to be able to resolve this issue. Let me just say in conclusion, Madam President, dlrected at my colleague I on the other side of the aisle with respect to disrespect in I commlttee...tmachine cutoffl... with respect to disrespect in the ! i conmittee, a motion was advanced by Senator Hendon to divide the i question. We. didn't know whether or not this was doable, whether l . ; ! it was proper. And I plead guilty if I didn't know exactly What j r the rules were on this issue. I said to Senator i ! Hendon, ''Senator, I will respect your notion. Let me ask you to , 1 E d withdraw the motion now. Let's put the committee at ease, and I ! will get back to you and reccgnize you after We have an answer.'' i l i We dld quite a bit of research. We wanted to treat Senator Hendon fair; we wanted to treat the rest of the Members of the committee fair. I talked with staff and other Membersr both Republican and Democrat. Cane to the conclusion that I would allow him to continue with his motion, but I would be prepared to rule the motion out of order, because I Was concerned and convinced that the question of division on thls issue is not permitted. I told him further that if I ruled the motion out af order, he had a right to appeal the Chair, at which time he became very disturbed, and I guess I understand that. There was dlscussion in the committee, and I asked hin on three occasionsr attempting to recognize him to make his motion. I never, ever denied h1m the opportunity to make the motion. That was his right, and every Member in that committee, Republlcan and Democrat alike, knew that I recognized hlm on three occasions, but he chose to sit back in his chair and refused to respond. I then asked, ''Any further discussionr ' There was none. And I then called for the motion 44 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4: 1993 that had been put by Senator Donahue, and the committee moved forward. regret that those things happened. And, Senator Demuzio, I think the point you make is a very good one. We handled it as best we could. I'm disappcinted at the reaction of my good friendr Senator Hendon. Madan President, I request a favcrable roll call on House Bill 26. PRESIDTNG OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) The question shall House Bill 26 pass. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who uish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, Ehere are 52 Ayes: Nay, and 3 voting Present. House Bi1l 26, having received the required three-fifths najority vcte, is declared passed. On Supplemental Calendar No. 1, under the Order of Secretary's Desky Concurrence, is Senate Bill 95. Senator Woodyard? Madam Secretary, read the bill. ACTING SECRETARY HAWMER : House Amendments 2, 3, 4, 6 and 7 to Senate Bill 95. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Woodyard. SENATOR WOODYARD: Thank -- thank you, Madam Presldent and Members of the Senate. Before proceeding with this bill, I uould like to ask leave of the Body there are two separate motions that have to be considered. And Would like leave of the Body to conslder both of those motions on the same roll call, because deals with *he same amendments. PRESTDING OFFTCER) (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Waodyard. SENATOR WOODYARD: Thank -- thank you, Madam President and Members of the Body. I withdraw my request for leave of -- of two -- of the two 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 separate motions considered in oner and so we dll -- we dll go With al1 of these amendments. Senate Bill 95# as I think you can see from its number, has been around for quite a long period of time. And just within the past few days, really, the House rather loaded this bill up with a lot of provisionsz most of Which., as far as I knoN: are -- are pretty noncontroversial. None of these are my amendmentsr and quite frankly, they even ended up killing my underlying bill. But...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Demuzio, for what purpose do you rise?

I I don't have any quarrel With what -- What We are doing, but don't we have to adopt Amendment No. 7, and then and then do 'em a11 at one time? We just...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) We are doing a1l of the amendments concurrences, and that is 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 and 7. No. Just a second, Senator Demuzio.

So, Madam President, lt's my understanding that we're going to concur W1th -- with a1l of the House Amendments lncluding No. even though it's not on the board. Is that correct?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) That is correct, Senator Demuzio.

That's what we Want to know.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Geo-Karis, for what purpose do you rise?

Madam -- Madam Chairman -- I see, there 's a second concurrence that can see here that does include No. I found another one that said it didn't; that's all.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION ' SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 Senator Woodyard.

Well, thank youy Madam President and Members of the -- of the Senate. Then I guess our first motion is a motion of concurrence on House Amendments 2, 3: 4, 5, 6, and then . I Will need to ' wikhdraw my motlon of nonconcurrence on 7, and we '11 concur with that later. Can I proceed with...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Woodyard. 1 SENATOR WOODYARD: l A11 right. I'm getting different signals back herer but it sounds like it's 2, 3, 4, 5, 6: 7 that we Will move to concur on. If I could proceed, Amendment No. 2 is what removed a11 of the existing language in the bill and -- and just added a -- a Section title in the Veterans' Administration Retrocession Act. Amendment No. 2 deals with a request of a printer down in Senator O 'Daniel's district. It's my understanding that this printer sends out-of-state mailers to another third party in the State of Illinois, before theydre sent ou* of State. This adds the provision that also the agent or seller would not have to pay sales tax on those inserts. If there are any questlons, I would allude to Senator O'Daniel on that. Amendment No. 4 is a transfer of parcels in Winnebago County, and also East Alton, and authorizes Arcola to transfer a section of an abandoned rail line . Part of that is ln Senator Syverson's district, part of it in -- in Senator Weaver's district. Senate Amendment No. 5 is -- it authorizes people in -- or the Kankakee County Board to lease I certain properties. It grants quick-take powers ko Bensenville for thelr Bensenville Flood Control Project. Grants quick-take authority to Arcola and Tuscola on a waterline. There are three separate districts invclved in that. Amendnent No . 6 Would allow Cook County Medical Center -- I'm sorry, the Medical Center 1 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY l REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 Commission in Chicago, to do quick-take powers in some area around Cook County Hospital. That's in Senator Hendon's distrlctz and, Senator Hendon, I am showlng you respect for putting this I amendment in. Amendment No. 7 was the one that we had some . I problems with -- some objection on. The first provision in Senate - - or in Amendment No. 7 deals with the retrocession by the United States Government to the State of Illinois on Chanute Air Base, and I think we need that provision very strongly. It also deals with concurrent jurisdiction over land near Pekin and Greenville that are used for federal prisons : and it authorizes a conveyance r by the State to Sheffieldy on a parcel of land. Those are the -- are the provisions that are in the six amendments, and I would move for concurrence of -- by the Senate of those amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further dlscussion? Senator Palmer.

Thank youy Madam President. A question of the sponsor.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Indicates he'll yield, Senator Palmer.

Senator Woodyard, I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you. I just wanted to make sure that the sunset is still in this, on Amendment 3.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Woodyard.

Thank you. And -- and: Senator Palmer, I failed Eo mention that, and I apologize, but, yes, the sunset provision ls in, and it sunsets January 1, 1997.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Raica. SENATOR RAICA: j 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Leglslative Day November 4, 1993 ! Thank you: Madam President. I Would like to know if I would be out of order if -- if I can ask Senator Petka to stand up and say a few words on this bill also.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Woodyard, to close, please. .

I just ask for a favorable roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) This is final action. The question is, shall the House Ksic> concur in House Amendments 2, 3, 4: 5, 6 and 7. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed Will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have a1l voted who Wish? Have a11 voted : ! who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 43 Ayes, 13 Nays, and 1 voting Present. The Senate does concur in House Amendments 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7. House Bill -- you just took my bill number away. Having recelved the required three-fifths majority, is declared passed. Resolutions. Resolutions Consent Calendar. With the leave of the Body, a1l those that have been read in today will be added to the Consent Calendar. Mr. Secretary, have there been any objections flled to any resolution on Consent Calendar?

No objections have been filedy Madam President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) If not, the question is, shall the resolutions on the Consent i i Calendar be adop*ed. A11 those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The motion carries, and the resolutions are adopted. Introduction of Bills.

Senate Bill 1140, offered by Senator Lapaille. (Secretazy reads title of bill) Senate Bill 1141, by Senator Lapaille. i 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 86th Legislative Day November 4, 1993 (Secretary reads tltle of bill) And Senate B1l1 1142, offered by Senator Welch. (Secretary reads title of bill) i i 1st Reading of the bills. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Messages from the House. ! i SECRETARY HARRY: I A Message from the House by Mr. Rossir Clerk. Mr. President - I am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has concurred with the Senate in the passage of a bill of the following title, to wit: ! Senate Bill 433 With House Amendments 1 , 2r 3, 4 and ! 5. We have like Messages on Senate Bill 684 with House Amendments 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 10, 11, 12 and 13; Senate Bill 881 Wlth House Amendments 1r 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, l0r ll; Senate Bill 1024 with House Amendments 2, 3, 4, 5, 10 and 1l; and Senate Bll1 1043 with House Amendnents 1, 2 and 3. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) If there's no further business to come before the Senatey Senator Topinka noves the Senate stand adjourned until Wednesday, January 12th, at the hour of 11:30 a.m. Senate stands adjourned. i ! : ! . 1 ! 50 N REPORT: TIFLDAY STATE OF ILLINOIS 94/11/02 PAGE: 001 88TH GENERAL ZSSEHBLY 09:5T:3k SENATE DâILX XBAHSCRIPIIQN OF DEBATE INDEX NOVEHBER 0V, 1993 . HB-0026 RECâLLED HB-0026 THIRD READINC HB-02R6 CONFERENCE HB-02j9 CONFERENCE .HB-0795 RECALLED H8-0795 THIRD READING SB-0095 CONCURRENCE - .SB-0095 OVT OF REOOED 58-0232 CONCURRENCE SB-0y05 0UT OF RECORD 58-0:98 CONFEHENCE SB-1043 OTHER SB-1139 FIRST READING SB-11y0 FIRST READING SB-11y1 FIRST REàDING SB-11M2 FIRST READING SR-0905 âDOPTED SR-0912 RESOLUTION OFFERED SH-0913 RESOLVTION OFFERED SR-091V RESOLUTION OFFERED SR-0915 RESOLUTION OFFERED 5R-0916 RESOLUTION OFFERED SR-091; RESOLUTION OFFERED SR-0918 RESOLUTION OFFERED SR-0919 RESOLDTION OFFERED HJR-O073 àDOPTED HJR-0080 RESOLUTION OFFERED HJR-0085 ZDCPTED HJR-008? RESOLUTION OFFERED HJR-0088 RESOLUTION OFFERED HJR-0089 RESOLUTION OFFERED SJR-0101 ADOPTED SJR-0103 ADOPTED SJR-0103 RESOLUTION OFFERED SUBJECT HATTER SENATE TO OHDER-SENRTOR VEAVER PZGE PRAYER-THE REVEREND D2N SEIBERT PAGE JOURNAL-POSTPONED PâGE MESSàGES FROM THE HOUSE PAGE COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE RECESS PZGE SENâTE RECOVVENES PZGE MESSAGE FROH THE HOUSE PAGE RECESS PAGE SENATE RECONVENES PAGE COMHITTEE REPORTS PAGE RECESS FOR SPECIAL SESSION PZGE 'SENATE RECONVEVES PZGE COMMITTEE REPORT PZGE COMMITTEE REPQRTS PAGE RESOLUTIONS CONSENT CâLEMDZR-ADOPTED PZGE MESSAGES FROM THE HOUSE PAGE ADJOURNMENT PAGE