The regular Session of the 88th General Assembly Will please come to order. Will the Members please be at their desksr and will our guests in the galleries please rlse. Our prayer today will be given by Reverend Rodney Schwartz, Little Flower Church: Springfield, Illinois. Reverend Schwartz.
(Prayer by the Reverend Rodney Schwartz)
Senator Butler, for what purpose do you rise?
Mr. President, I move that reading and approval of the Journal of Tuesday, March 29th, in the year 1994r be postponed, pending arrival of the printed Journal.
Senator Butler noves to postpone the reading and approval of the Journal, pending the arrival of the printed transcrlpts . There being no objectionr so ordered. Committee Reports.
Senator Fawell, Chair of the Conmtittee on Transportation, reports Senate Bills numbered 1159 and 1297 Do Pass; and Senate Bills 1730, 1733 and 1819 Do Pass , as M ended . Senator Raica , Chair of the Committee on Local Government and Elections r reports House Bill 474 Do Pass ; Senate Bills numbered 1263, 1302, 1330 r 1366, 1376 , 1427 , 1476 and 1701 Do Pass ; and Senate Bills numbered 1367, 1401 and 1491 Do Pass, as M ended . Senator Ralph Dunn , Chair of the Com ittee on State Government Operations and Executive Appcintments, reports Senate Bllls numbered 1182, 1715 and 1832 Do Pass, as M lended. (581456 Do Pass) (Bi11 within parentheses submitted in writing, but inadvertently not read into record) Senator Maitland , Chair of the Committee on Appropriations, l STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 99th Legislat ive Day March 30z 1994 reports Senate Bills numbered 1757 , 1766 and 1782 Do Pass . Senator Barkhausen, Chalr of the Committee on Financlal Institutions, reports Senate Bills nunbered 1229, 1397 and 1468 Do Pass; and Senate Bl11 1311 Do Pass y as M ended . Senator Mahar , Chair of the Conmlittee on Environment and Energy, reports Senate Bills numbered 1172, 1212# 1649 and 1721 Do Pass , as M ended . And Senator DeAngelis, Chalr of the Commlttee on Revenue r reports Senate Bills 1211 and 1510 Do Pass; and Senate Bills l4l, 1279 , 1336, 1509 and 1825 Do Pass , as M ended .
Senator Dunn , for what purpose do you rise?
Thank you -- thank you , Mr . Presldent. I 'd like to request an excused absence for last Friday 's Session . was With Senator Hawkinson at the Juvenile Task Force neeting that we 're trying to put some bills out on. So I 'd like to make that request for the record .
The record will so indicate. Resolutions .
Senate Resolution 1195, offered by Senator Dudycz, as ls Senate Resolution 1196 . Senate Resolution 1197, offered by Senators Demuzio and Barkhausen . Senate Resolution 1198, by Senator Jones. Senate Resolution 1199, by Senator Smith and a1l Members . Senate Resolutions 1200 and 1201 are offered by Senator Woodyard . They 're a11 congratulatory or death resolutions, Mr . President .
Consent Calendar . Senator Butler , for what purpose do you 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS ' 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 99th Legislative Day March 30, 1994 ; rise?
Mr. President, I ask leave for immedlate consideration and adoption of Senate Resolution 1190, Which is a congratulatory resolution.
Senator Butler moves to suspend the rules for the purpose of the immediate conslderation and adoption of Senate Resolution 1190. A11 those ln favor, signify by saying Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The rules are suspended. Now -- Senator Butler . on Senate Resolution 1190 .
I Would ask passage of Senate Resolution 1190, please .
Okay . Senator Butler moves for the adoption of Senate Resolution 1190. Those in favor, signify by saying Aye. Those opposed. Nay. The Ayes have lt. The resolution is adcpted. Yeah. With leave , I will 1et Senator Woodyard exhume the Chair to -- purpose of a introduction. Senator Woodyard .
Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Come on, girls. Cone on out here. Today we have with us in Springfield the girls ' basketball champlons in the State that represent the seventh and eighth grade . Ncw it 's pretty rare to even have a -- a State champion from -- cane over here to Springfield from my district. 3ut I'11 tell you, it is very unique Ehat we -- Ehat these girls -- the seventh graders won the State championship , and sa dld the eighth grade . They happen to be from -- from Crestwood School, which is -- in itself , is a very unusual school . It 's the only district -- unit district in the State cf Illinols that has no high school . It 's also in a locat ion in which it totally surrounds a special charter district : Paris, Illinois. And 3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 99th Legislative Day March 30, 1994 they're conslstently known - their school ls - as the ''Hole in the Doughnut''. But, from Crestwood, I would like to lntroduce *he coach, and she wil1... Come on, Glorla . Mccollum. Lori l Mccollum is our coach, and she's been in Springfield before with the team. And I presume that you're going to come back next year with another championship team, aren't ycu? Okay. Lori, would you introduce some of your team members here, and congratulations, again, to you.
(Remarks by Coach Lori Mccollum)
(Introduces sixth and seventh grade team members)
(Introduces eighth grade team members) SENATOR WOODYARD: ! Also representing the Crestwood School is my House colleague, Representative Mike Weaver. Mike.
(Remarks by Representative Mike Weaver)
May I have your attentionr please. I -- With leave, I'd like to go to 3rd Reading to pick up -- to pass two bills today. The first bill ls 1l91z which deals With a special tax break fcr Motorola we need to dor so that hopefully we'll keep Motarola in Illinois. And the second bill is a supplemental that the Governor needs - 1776. So Without objections, We'll now go to 3rd Readings. The bottom of page 5, Senate Bill 1191. Senator Klemm . Mr. Secretary, read the bill. '
Senate 3i11 1191. i (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. I 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS ' 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 99th Legislative Day March 30F 1994 i
Senator Jones, for what purpose do you rise?
Yeah. Thank you, Mr. President. I just Wanted to ask the sponsor a question after he presented the bill.
Okay. Thank you. Senator Klemm, to explain the bill. ,
Thank you' Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senate Bill 1191 is a proposal that will, I thinky bring up to date some of the tools that local government can use in the State of Illinois to try to ipspire industrial growth, commercial growthz in lllinois, creatkng jobs and some of the tmprovements of our assessed valuation in many of the districts. In 1984 we had passed a bill that created a -- an abatement program that local governments, on a permissive basis, could allow exemptions abating local taxes up to one milllon dollars over a ten-year period. This bl11 simply would raise that one million dollars to three million dollarsr bringing it -- bringing it in line With...
Could we please have sone order? Thank you. Senator Klemm.
.. . brinqing it in line with the more current trend of assessed valuations now . And 1.11 be delighted to answer any questions.
Senator Jones.
Yeah. Thank your Mr. President. W#l1 the sponsar yield?
l He indicates he will.
Yeah. Senator Klemmr under this legislation, is this just I I 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 99th Legislative Day March 30, 1994 restricted to one particular locale, or are the -- the -- will it apply statewide? PRESIDENT PHILIP: I Senator Klemm .
No, Senator Jones, it's statewide. It's used whether it's the inner city or downstate or Chicago or anyplace. It's for everybody ln Illinois.
Senator Jones.
Well then, so you -- you spoke about Motorola, but this can apply to any county, any entity across the State of Illinols. Where is DCCA on this piece of leglslation?
Senator Klemm .
No, I never nentioned any industrial company. There are a number of activities in the State of Illinois that are going on j presently. Obviously, if it's going to help a particular company or others, fine; that's What the intent is. DCCA is not opposing the bill. I've not even heard from them. It's current legislatlon. Wedre just changing the amounts. I
Senator Jones.
Well, I understand the implication as far as Motorola, but this is a open-end piece of legislatlon; so, thereforey what we k are doing is talking about tax breaks that could be applled to any locale. And without the State taking a pcsition, I think We ' should, as a Bodyr be more specific in this type of legislation and jus: not open it up -- open up a Pandora's box where any i I ! 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY I REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT i 99th Legislative Day March 30, 1994 1 I county across the State can -- can do this and without the State 1 even taking a particular posltlon as it relate to this. I would think that the Body would like to brlng industry in Illlnois. The state should be involved in attracting industry to create more '' ( jobs. But this is a open-end piece of legislationr and I think We ' i - - I would encourage the Members on this side of the aisle to look at this very carefully, because the State not taklng a pcsitlon and its open endr we could be setting up a sltuation whereby other entities, be it other counties, can do this. This is not for Motorola itself. This is a open-end piece of legtslation. I suggest we look at it very careful. PRESIDENT PHILIP: Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACOBS: Thank youy Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Will the spcnsor yield for a question? PRESIDENT PHILIP: Indicates he wttl. SENATOR JACOBS: Senator, as it purports here, it appears that the amendment -- or the bill amends the Property Tax Code to provide that a taxing distrëct may do certain things. Does this mean that the school district could abate three million, the clty abate three million, the property -- I mean, the county abate three million? Is -- ks it an -- aggregate to three nillion of a1l taxing districts? Or can each -- and the way I look at it, it means that each individual taxing district could abate up to three million dollars in taxatton. So cauld we have a duplication here of different taxing bodies, each giving a abatenent? PRESIDENT PHILIP: Senator Klemm . SENATOR KLEMM : 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 99th Legislative Day March 30, 1994 No, that's not -- that's not the case. The existing 1aW has not been changed from what we've said before. Tf you'll look in i the section 1, it does limit. That is the maximun amount. There 's a cap on the amount. There's a cap on the total number of years. I But let me make one thing clear for a11 the Members: This is not . a tax abatement of existing taxes that are being collected. This is something for addltkonat growth: a new facility or an expansion of a new facility. Please remember that if you've go* an empty lot cr an empty industrial site, there is really no taxes comin: kn off of that site. And if a local government entity - because this ls permissive - a school board or a city wlshes to give some abatement on the new taxes that would be coming in on that expansion, then they have every right to do it. Remember that every dollar spent on an industrial or a paycheck or a payroll usually gives ten dollars of -- of residual value in a community. So that's the reason many of these communities are looking at these taols to help them for economic development and growth. And this Will do it. We have not changed any existing 1aw to give you that protection that you Would ask for.
Senator Jacobs.
Thank you. Just one more clarification. But before I ask for the clarification, I -- I have a little bit of the same problem. I -- I happen to believe that -- that we should initiate as much economtc developnent as we can. I'm sorry to see that as a State we're not getting as involved ln some of these issues as I happen to think we should. But the clarification, just for -- for my purposes: The three million -- the change from one million to ! three million dollars that we're #n reference to, that is on tax paid, or is that on assessed valuation?
8 STATE OP ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 99th Legislative Day March 30, 1994 Senator Klemm. i
The current legislation and thls legislation would be on taxes paid. PRESIDENT PHILIP: ' Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you . I hope that this does not become a partisan issue, because the original bill that allowed this was, in fact, introduced and passed by a Democrat, and that was Senator Lechowicz. And what this bill essentially does is it updates it to now. This bill was passed -- this 1aw was passed about ten years ago, and it simply says, and I think if we 're ever going to give any type of rellef, 1et those people that are in the area make that determination . This is strictly permisslve . It 's an aggregate anount. And I got to tell you, if the locals feel like they ought not to do ity they gon 't do it. But if they feel that they should, they will. What's so Wrong With that? That's democracy 's finest action.
Senator Stern .
Will the Gentleman yleld for a question?
Indicates he will .
I just want to be sure I understand it, Senator. This ls the kind of legislation that could be used r perhaps , to seduce a company to settle in County X instead of Wisconsin , for instance . We will -- we, the county of whateverr will abate your tax to such and such an extent. Is that the manner in which such legislation would work? 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 99th Legislatlve Day March 30, 1994 PRESIDENT PHILIP: Senator Klemm. SENATOR KLEMM: Well, how it's Worktng currently is that a company that wishes to expand or go in a redevelopment area many times has tremendous costs of moving or building a facility. And you know those costs are skyrocketing every day and splraling as the costs go up. Because there is such an incentive in having community growth for reducing tax base for tax home payers, creating jobs, sales tax and the other receipts that come into the municipallties and counties, many of the neW construction applicants come before the local governnents and ask them under this law, ''Can you help us ' out?'' Could you help us out for a year, two years, or however long - no more than ten years. And they then decide. We have instances in the State, in your county and my county, where some taxing distrlcts sald, HNo: lt doesn 't benefit us; We won't grant any'', and they said, ''Fine'' while others have allowed to. So it's, again, a very permisslve thing that the elected bcardsr the elected officials, locallyr have that choice. It gives them a tool. We don't mandate anything to them, nor does thls bill change that. PRESIDENT PHILIP: Any further discussion? Any further discussion? If noty Senator ohr excuse me. Senator Geo-Karis. SENATOR GEO-KARIS: Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, I'n happy to tell you that Motorola relocated cne of its big plants in Lake County, Illinois, it -- hiring three thousand people. And I'm -- I'm delighted to see this bill here. And let me tell my friends in this Senate that Wisconsin has an industrial park, and they are giving a11 kinds of goodies to attract manufacturers to Wisconsin. I support this bill very strongly and ask for a 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 99th Legislative Day March 30, 1994 favorable vote.
Senator Palmer.
Thank you, Mr. Presldent. A question of the sponsor. '
Indicates he'll answer.
Senator Klemm, I just want to clarify that there -- there are some limitations to this, as to which kinds of companies qualify for the maximum aggregate. Are these prinarily companies that are coming in that are new to the area, that are -- relocating? Is that -- are those the primary candidates for this tax aggregate relief?
Senator Klemm .
Again, Senator Palmer, I'm not changing that at all, as you know. That's current law now. So I'm not even touching that. 3ut tbe interpretation of the existing 1aw now, whlch would remaln in the bill, is that new construction or additions, if you will - expansions - would be allowed on industrial and commercial. Yes.
Senator Palmer.
Thank you. So a1l ycu 're doingy in essence, is raising the anount from one nillion to three millton. Is that correct?
Senator Klenm. '
That is correct. I'm not changing any language, except raising the amount that had been established in 1984, We believe. i 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION ' SENATE TRANSCRIPT 99th Leglslative Day March 30e 1994 That's over a -- almost a decade ago - of trying to bring lt up to j what's, I think, a current trend. And I think the bill -- the merits of it certainly have proven itself effective. We're not i changing it, and I do support and thank you fcr your help. PRESIDENT PHILIP: . i Further discussion? If not, Senator Klemm, to -- ocp. I Senator Fawell.
Just one question. Is this -- will the sponsor yield for a question?
Sponsor indicates he will yield.
Is this -- this ls a permlssive bill, isn't it? You kncw r if I -- if this is a permisslve bill, and the -- and the tax bodies in a certain location don't gant to do lt, they donft have to. I don 't know even what the argument is. It seems to me if the local taxing districts want to give a break to the companiesr they ought to be allowed to. Theydre the ones that are going to have to either suffer or gain from it. I dcn't even understand why we're discussing the bill this long.
Senator Klemm.
I think, Ne ought to...tnicrophone cutoffl...forget tt.
Is that -- is tbat a question or a statement?
The -- it is permissive. It was permissive; it continues to I be permissive. And, again: Senator Fawell, this is not abating existing taxes. This is not abating real estate taxes that are i I I already on the rolls. This is not a lcss of revenues fcr a -- a 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT ' 99th Legislative Day March 30y 1994 I taxing distrlct. It is jusk that they would say that we will give you some relief for the new taxes that may be assessed on that new addition: which creates job opportunities. So it's nothing that I is -- somebody is giving away, and it is totally permissive. PRESIDENT PHILIP: ' Further discussion? If not, Senator Klemm, to close. SENATOR KLEMM : I just ask for ycur support. It's important for Illinols' development. And look for your Aye vote. i PRESIDENT PHILIP: Al1 right. The question is, shall Senate Bill 1191 pass. A11 those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have you a1l voted who Wlsh? Have you a11 voted Who wish? Take the record. The Ayes are 57, the Nays are 0, and nobody voting Present. Senate Bill 1191, having received the constitutional requirement, is declared passed . Now, on the -- in the middle of page 9, Senate Bill 1776. Read the bill. SECRETARY HARRY: Senate Bill 1776. lsecretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. PRESIDENT PHILIP: Senator Maitland. SENATOR MAITLAND: Thank you very -- thank you very much, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senate Bill 1776 is, once again, the fall supplemental appropriations bill that We have passed over to the House; this now being the third time. It is slightly different than it was previously. TWo or three special projects are not in -- in the legislation. There is a slight (ncrease in the General Revenue, whkch now stands at kwenty-eighE million thirty-nine thousand. The total of the bill presently is 13 : L- - . STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 99th Legislative Day March 1994 two hundred sixty-nine mtllion six hundred and twenty-nine dollars. would remind the Body, this deals primarily, to a great extent, on *he General Revenue side, twenty-five million of which is flood-related, and it is of -- of some import that we, this timer send it to the House and ask them tor as expeditiously as possible, pass the measure, because as you may recall, there is some fourteen million dollars here that affects State pclice salaries starttng on or about April l5. And so: it is kmportant that we move this wlth some dispatch. Mr. President, would -- would seek the -- would -- would respond to any questions anyone might haver otherwise would seek the Body ls support of Senate Bill 1776.
Further discussion? Further discussion? If not, the question is, shall Senate B#l1 1776 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those oppcsed, Nay. The voting is open. Have you a11 voted who wish? Have you a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On the question, there are 58 Ayesy no Naysy no voting Present. Senate Bill 1776: having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senator Dudycz.
Thank -- ehank you, Mr. President. I stand on a point of personal privilege. At the conclusion of tcday's Session, I am inviting the Members, thelr secretaries and staff, and other interested persons in the Capitol, to my office, in Room M1l4. In my office are two of my sisters who are displaying Ukrainian Easter eggs, and they will be having a demonstration on how Ukrainian Easter eggs are made. Also, there is my mother in my office. She has baked some Eastef bread, and a11 are invited to my office for some free samples.
Thank you. Senator Dudycz. Tf there's no further busipess to 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 99th Legislative Day March 30, 1994 come before the Senate, Senator Weaver mcves the Senate stand oh, excuse me. Senator Madiganr for what purpose do you rlse? Senator Madigan.
Thank you, Mr. President. As soon as We can get up therer as soon as practical, the Insurance Committee wi11 meet in Roon 400. We've only got four bills. It should not take us very long at all. So I would appreciate a little promptness so we can get that matter resolved. Thank you, Mr. Presldent.
Senator Jcnes.
Thank you, Mr. Presldent. I'd like to move to suspend the approprlate rules for the immediate consideration of a death resolution - Senate Resolution 1198.
Senator Jones moves to suspend the rule for the purpose of the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Resokutkon 1198. A11 those favorr signify by saying Aye. Those opposedr Nay. The Ayes have it. The rules are suspended . Nowr Senator Jones noves to adopt Senate Resolution 1198. Those in favorr signify by saying Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The motion -- the resolution is adopted. Resolutions.
Senate Resolution 1202, offered bg Senator Hendon. And Senate Resolution 1203, offered by Senator Shaw. They're b0th death resolutions, Mr. President.
Consent Calendar. Senator Karpielr for What purpose do you rtse?
Thank you, Mr. President. Just to announce that the Senate 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 99th Legislative Day March 30, 1994 Executive Committee will meet upon adjournment. I hope that a11 i conmittee Members wl1l be there promptly. Members that have ! bills, constitutional amendments and resolutions in that committee, please also be there. We will start immediately upon adjournment. We have sixty-one issues to -- to decide in committee today.
Any further business to come before the Senate? If notr Senator Weaver moves the Senate stands adjourned until 9 a.m.r Thursday, March 31st. 16 REPORT: TIFLDAY STATE 0F ILLINOIS 9M/11/03 PàGE: 001 88TH GENERAL ASSEHBLY 11:0V:29 SENATE DâILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX HARCH 30, 199: SB-1191 THIRD READIVG PAGE V SB-1776 THIRD READIKG PAGE 13 SR-1190 ADOPTED PZGE 3 SR- 1195 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 2 ! SR-1196 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 2 SR-119T RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 2 SR-1198 ADGPTED PAGE 15 ' SR-1198 RESOLUTIOM OFFERED PAGE 2 SR-1199 RESOLUTION OFFERED P2GE 2 SR-1200 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 2 SR-1201 RESOLUTION OFFERED PZGE 2 SR-1202 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 15 SR-1203 RESOLDTION OFFERED PAGE 15 SUBJECT HZTTER SENATE TO ORDER-PRESIDENT PHILIP PAGE 1 PRAYER-THE REVEREND RODNEY SCHHâRTZ PZGE 1 JOURNAL-POSTPONED PAGE 1 COMHITTEE REPORTS PâGE 1 GUESTS- SEN.KOODYARD IKTRODUCES CRESTHOOD SCHOOL PAGE 3 ADJOURNHENT PAGE 16 . -- . - -. - -.. . ' ' -.