The Senate Will please come to order. Will the Members be at thelr desks, and will our guests in the gallery please rise. Our prayer today will be given by Pastor Gaylord Buss, First United Methodist Church, Lincoln,' Illinois. Pastor Buss.
(Prayer by Pastor Gaylord Buss) PRESIDENT PHILIP: I I Reading of the Journal. Senator Butler. 1 SENATOR BUTLER : i ; Mr. President, I move that readlng and approval of the Journals of Tuesday, June 28thr and Wednesday, June 29th, in the year 1994, be postponed, pending arrival of the printed Journals.
Senator Butler moves to postpone the reading and the approval of the Journal, pending the arrival of the printed transcript. There belng no objections, so ordered. Senator Donahue, for what purpose do you rise?
Well, thank youy Mr. President. I would ask a1l the Members that are in their cffices and not on the Floor at this point, that there will be a Republican Caucus immediately. A Republican Caucus immediately in Pate Philip's...
All right. That -- that motion is always in order. It Would be the intent of the Chair to have a Republican Caucus for about an hcur. I think we will -- we will come back at 10 o 'clockr hopefully. So, the -- the Senate W111 stand in recess till l0 a .m . (SENATE STANDS IN RECESS) l STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 1994 (SENATE RECONVENES)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senate will come to order. Resolutions.
Senate Resolution 1687, offered by Senators Geo-Karis, Petka and others. And Senate Resolution 1688, offered by Senator Philip. One is congratulatory. The other is proclamatory.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Consent Calendar. May I have your attention for just a minute. We have three committees scheduled for 11 o 'clock, 11:15 and 11:15. Executive at 11 o 'clock. State Government at 11:15. Commerce and Tndustry at 11:15. So, we ui1l stand in recess until o'clock. (SENATE STANDS IN RECESS) (SENATE RECONVENES)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Committee Reports.
Senator Weaver, Chalr of the Committee on Rules, reports that the following Legislative Measures have been assigned to committees: Referred to the Committee on Agriculture and Conservation - Conferenee Committee Report l to Senate Bill 1267; referred tc the Committee on Transportation - Conference Committee Report to Senate <sic> Bill 31977 and Be Approved for Consideration - Senate Bill 766 <sic> and House Bill l2. 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30 , 1994 Senator Karpiel, Chair of *he Conlmiteee on Executive, reports Senate M endment 2 to House Bill -- or, 2444 Be Adcpted. Senator Butlerê Chair of the Committee on Commerce and Industry , reports Senate Bill 48lr the motion to concur With Hcuse M endments l and 4 Be Adcpted. And Senatcr Ralph Dunny Chair of the Ccmmittee on State Government Operations and Executive Appointments , reports Senate Bill 1832 , the motion to concur With House M endments le 3, 5 and 7 Be Adopted .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) It 's the intent of the Chair to move to the Secretary 's Desk Concurrence on page 9 of today 's Calendar. What purpose does Senator Hall arise?
To ask for a Democratic Caucus .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) That's always in order.
Okay .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER ) How lcng will you be, Senator Hall?
Well, let 's see . Have you been informed over there yet? He 's going to talk to you on the phone .
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR WEAVER) We have several nèn-concurrences that we 'd like to deal with very shortly to get these bills in a position for passage . Do you wish to withdraw your motion for a caucus at this point? A1l right. Then we '11 -- we '11 move on to page 9 of the Calendar . Senator Thomas Dunn on the Floor? Senator Robert Madigan? Senator Kenneth Hall, on 1672:/ Senator Hall, on Senate Bi11 1692 <sic> , on the Order of Non-concurrence. Mr. Secretary . 3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30r 1994
I move to non-concur With the Hcuse in the adoption of their ! Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 1672. Filed by Senator Hall. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) ' Senator Hall moves to non-concur in House Amendments No. 1. Senator Hallr do you wish to explain?
1672 - we have to do some clearing up, so We want to send it back over to the -- Representative Flynn, and he's -- 1et him know that we have non-concurred. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) i A11 right. Senator Hall moves to non-concur in House M endments No . 1 to Senate Bill 1672 . A1l those in favorr say Aye . Opposed , Nay . The Ayes have it. The motion carries , and the Secretary shall so inform the House. Senator Dklnn r on 1285 . Mr. Secreta ry .
I nove to non-concur With the House in the adoption of their Amendments 1, 4 and 5 tc Senate Bi11 1285. Filed by Senator TOm Dunn.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Dunn, do you wish to explain?
Yes . Thank you r Mr . President . One of these amendments was technically lncorreck. We're golng to send it back and hope Eo redo it . Another amendment needs to be added for Leadership in the Republican side over in the House that I 'm consenting to .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Dunn has moved to concur with *he House M endment No . l and 9 xtsic> on Senate Bill -- 1285 . Excuse me . We were doing the concurrence fi rst and then the non-coneurrence. Tou had asked 4 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30r 1994 for a split motion , Senator ...
I$d like to non-concur on all three if I may, Mr. President.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Dunn moves to non-concur on Senate <sic> M endments No . 1, 4 and 5 on Senate Bill 1285. A11 those in favor, say Aye . Opposed r Nay . The Ayes have it . The Secretary Will so inform the House . Senator Madigan . On the Order of Non-concurrence # Senate Bi11 1332r Mr. Secretary . Senator Madigan .
Thank you , Mr. President. I Would move to non-concur with House M endment No . 1 to Senate Bill 1332.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Madigan has moved to non-concur in Hcuse Amendment No . l to Senate Bill 1332. Those in favor Will say Aye. Opposed, Nay . The Ayes have lt. The mction carries , and the Secretary shall so inform the House. WLS-TV Channel 7r Chicagc, requests leave to film. Is there objection? Leave is granted. Senator Geo-Karisr on Senate Bill 1803 . Senator Geo-Karis .
Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senater T move to non-concur in Senate Bill 1803 , and I ask for a conference committee .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senatcr Geo-Karis moves to non-concur in House M endment No . 2 to Senate B(11 1832. A11 khose ln favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it . The motion carries , and the Secretary shall so inform the House . Excuse me , Senator Geo-Karis . I said 1832 , but it 's Senate Bill 1803 that we non-concurred in House M endment No . 2 . Senator Hall, do you wish to renew your motion for a Democrat Caucus?
5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 Yes, Mr. President.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) And hoW long Would you be, Senator Hall?
I think about an hour.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) A11 right; sir. The Senate Will then reconvene at 3:15. (SENATE STANDS IN RECESS) (SENATE RECONVENES)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) The Senate uill reconvene for the purpose of a Committee Report only. Mr. Secretary.
Senator Weaver, Chair of the Committee on Rules, reports that the following Legislative Measures have been assigned tc committees: Referred to the Committee on Insurance, Pensions and Licensed Activities - Conference Colmllittee Report l to Senate Bill 398 ; and referred to the Committee on Revenue - Conference Committee Report to Senate Bi11 1191 and Conference Committee Report l to Senate Bi11 1365 .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Fawell, for the purpose of an announcement.
Thank you very much . The Senate Transportation Committee Wi11 meet at 3 o 'clcck in Room 400 . We have one bill so far .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) The Senate will stand in recess until 3 :15 p .m . For what 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 purpose does Senator Woodyard arise?
Thank you, Mr. President. I've been instructed to anncunce that there will be a hearing of the Ag-conservation Committee in - - in Room 212 at 3 o 'clock. And I know that. may inconvenience some of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, but we only have cne conference committee report. I think it's pretty noncontroversial. So at this point in time, we're still staying ! with that schedule, at 3 o'clock in Room 212.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Are there further announcements? If not, the Senate will stand in recess until 3:15. (SENATE STANDS IN RECESS) (SENATE RECONVENES)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) If I might have your attention - commiktees are still meeting. We have a scheduled committee at 3:30 and one at 4. So, the Senate wi1l stand ln recess until the hour of 4:30. 1 (SENATE STANDS IN RECESS) (SENATE RECONVENES)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) . . . (microphone cutoff)... will reconvene. Committee Reports.
7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY ' REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 Senator Woodyard, Chair of the Committee on Agriculture and Conservationr reports Senate Bill 1267, the First Conference Committee Report Be Approved for Consideraticn. Senator Eawell, Chair of the Committee on Transportation, reports House Bill 3197: First Conference Committee Report Be Approved fcr Consideration. Senator Madigan, Chair cf the Conmittee on Insurancer Pensions and Llcensed Activities, reports Senate Bill 398, First Conference i Committee Report Be Approved for Ccnsideration. I 1 And Senator DeAngelis, Chair of the Committee on Revenue, reports Senate Bills 1191 and 1365, First Conference Committee Reportsr on bothy Be Approved for Consideration.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Messages from the House.
A Message from the House by Mr. Rossi, Clerk. Mr. President - T am directed to inform the Senate that I the House of Representatives has concurred with the Senate in the ! i passage of a bill of the following title, to wit: i i Senate Bill 1698, together with Anendments 2 and 4. j ( Passed the Houser as amended, June l4r 1994.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Resolutions.
Senate Resolution 1689, offered by Senator Berman. Senate Resolution 1690, by Senator Watson. Senator Shaw offers Senate Resolution 1691. Senate Resolution 1692, by Senator Shaw and a11 Members. Senate Resolution 1693, Senator Topinka. I ! Senate Resolution 1694, offered by Senator O'Malley. l ! Senator Raica offers Senate Resolution 1695. i : i Senate Resolution 1696, Senator Demuzio and a11 Membersr as is I 8 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30r 1994 Senate Resolution 1697. And Senate Resolution 1698, offered by Senator Klemm . They 're al1 congratulaeory and death resolutions, Mr. President.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Consent Calendar. Messages.
Message fron the President. Dear Mr. Secretary - Pursuant to the provisions of Senate Rule 210-e qsic> (2-10(e)) I am extendlng the deadline fcr final action on ehe following categories of billsy with specific bills enumerated under these categories, to January 10, 1995: Appropriations specifically House and ' Gcvernmental Operations specifically House Bill 2444. Dated June 30thr 1994, and signed by President Philip .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Demuzio, fcr what purpose do you rise?
Well, question on the motion on the -- whatever the President -- the Secretary just read in. Is this -- this is extending the deadlines on -- I'm sorry. I didn't catch the bill numbers. One Was House Bill l2. didn't catch the other.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Demuzio, what was read into the record was a Message to the Secretary from the President. was House Bill and House Bi1l 2444. Senator Demuzio.
I'm sorry, but doing What? We're -- are we extending the deadlines on those bills? Is that -- I meany...
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) That's correct.
. .m could you tell me what the date was? We don't have a copy 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 of this thin:.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Jones received a copy of it, Senator. We are extending the deadline for final action on the -- the tWo bills that were mentioned by the Secretary . Senator Demuzio.
What are we extending the deadlines to?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) January lothz 1995. Ladies and Gentlemenr is the intent of the Chair to now proceed to the Order of Secretary's Deskr Non-concurrence. If you turn to page 10 of tcday's Senate Calendar, to that order, the Chair shall take up these motions to refuse to recede from Senate amendments and request a conference committee be appcinted. Senator Butler, on House Bill 1635. Mr. Secretaryr please read the bill. Senator Butler, on the motion.
Mr. President, move to refuse to recede from Senate Amendments No. 2 and 3 on House Bill 1635 and request a conference committee.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senatcr Butler moves that the Senate refuse to recede from the adoption of Senate Amendments No. 2 and 3 to House Bill 1635 and that a conference eommittee be appointed. A11 those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have itr and the motion carries. And the Secretary shall so inform the House. you turn your Calendars to paqe 8 of today's Calendar to the Order Secretary 's Desk, Resolutionsr is the intent of the Chair to now proceed to that order. In the middle of page 8: Secretary'sy Desk Resolutions. Senate Resolution 1643. Senator Weaver. Senate -- Senator Weaver, do you wish your resolution to be considered? Mr. Secretary, read the resolution.
10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 Senate Resolution 1643, offered by Senator Weaver. No commiteee or Floor amendments, Mr. President.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Weaver. SENATOR WEAVER: ' Thank you, Mr. President. Senate Resolution 1643 does exactly what the Calendar states. As you know, there are plans to move the Air Force Reserve Units from O'Hare International Airport. All this resolution does is say to the City of Chicago and the Secretary of the Air Force to mcve these units to some Illinois-based airfield. There's no designation. It's just asking that We keep these jobs ln Illinois. And I would ask for the -- your favorable consideratian.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? If not, Senator Weaver moves the l 7 adoption of Senate Resolution 1643. Those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it, and the resolution is adopted. Senate Resolution 1644. Senator Madigan? Madam Secretary, read the resolution.
Senate Resolution 1644, offered by Senator Madigan. i There are no conmittee or Floor anendments reported. ! i PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) ! : Senator Madigan.
Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Senate Resolution 1644 requests the Illinois Economic and Fiscal Commission to study the feasibility and economic impact of allowing faculty and staff members at Illinois State universities and colleges the opportunity to elect to participate in either the I I State Universities Retirement System cr an optional retlrement 1 I I plan. The Commission then shall report its findings and 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislatlve Day June 30, 1994 recommendations to the Illinois General Assembly. This is a study - a study only. And this is a -- we did this, as everyone recallsy a couple years ago for the members of athletic departments at Illinois State universities. The purpose of this is to look at the feasibility, insofar as teachers who may not be at universities for a very long timer or long enough to 9et a : pension in the State University Retirement System, and this study E ( would be an aètempt to see if it ls feasible to give them an ; optional retirement plan. The University Retirement System is neutral on this study, and I would ask for its adoption.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? This motion will requtre a reeorded roll call vote . So, Senator Madigan mcves the adoption of Senate Resolution 1644. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed Will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have al1 I voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Take the record. On l I ! that questionr there are 58 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. ! And the resolution is adopted. House Joint Resolution 98. Senator ! : ! Jones. Senate Jolnt Resolution 152. Senator Shaw. Madam Secretary, read the resolution.
Senate Joint Resolution 152, offered by Senator Shaw. There are no committee or Floor amendments reported.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) I Senator Shaw. 1 ! SENATOR SHAW : ! I Thank you, Mr. President. Senate -- Senate Joint Resolution 152 is a -- is to create a speclal legislative committee that wculd look at -- at the crime problem in the inner city andz supposedly, around the State, if they choose to do so, to see what remedies that We could come up with to -- to combat the crime problem that we are now havlng in the lnner city and elsewhere in l 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 this State.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any discussion? Senator Demuzio.
Well, thank you, Mr. President. had my light on to talk on Senator Madigan's: I guessr you kncw, you chose to -- to ignore it. It's been on since then. Sor just turn it off.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator, your light was not on. Any further discusslon? Senator Karpiel.
Thank your Mr. President. Will the sponsor yield?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Sponsor indicates he will yield. Senator Karpiel.
On this Metropolitan Chicago Anti-crime Summit, are there any gang -- or, gang members? You knowr groups cf - you know the gangs?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Shaw.
No: Senator. There no gangs involved in this -- in the original working group, and there be none involved in thls one, as far as I'm concerned, unless they Want to testify. That's left up to the committee, if they want them to testlfy.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Karpiel.
Well, would you go throughr one more time -- I'm sorry, Senator, bu* would you go through exactly what the makeup of this working group that you 're proposing is made up of?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Leglslative Day June 30, 1994 Senatcr Shaw. SENATOR SHAW : ! These are housewives, business people, retired people -- persons, and just the -- basically the general citizenry of outstanding citizens that make up the -- the committee that originally dealt With this question.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Karpiel. I I
Well, every year the Metropolitan Chicago Anti-crime Summit is held. At that summit, are there gang members and gangs I i represented?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Shaw.
There was no :ang members participatlng in the sunmtit that kas ! held by this group. These were just general citizens from the various neighborhoods across the City. No member of any gang -- as a matter of fact, they were excluded, particularlyr from this worklngy inner-city committee. i
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Karpiel. SENATOR KARPIEL: l ! A11 right. Thank your Senator Shaw. One last question, and I ' : know we had this question in committee, as well. I'm really asklng these questions because Senator Dudycz has a real -- had some really -- real concerns in committee, and since he 's ln the i i Chair... In the -- the legislators that are on this group that you're forming, you -- you have that the senior members appcinted I I to the wcrking group shall call a meetin: within one week of being 1 ! an agenda. Is that correct? Is that still in the language? 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Shaw .
Yes, it is. PRESIDING OFF. ICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Karpiel.
I know I've asked thls in committee and never got it quite straight. By senior members, do you mean the oldest members on -- of all the legislators being appointed to it, or do you mean those with the most senlortty? And if -- if they are appointed and not the other members of the working group, how do they call a meeting within one week?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Shaw.
Seniority -- certainly Senatcr Hall wouldn't want to come from East St. Louis down there and, probablyr come up to work. We would hope that it would be somecne that's interested in lccklng -- and not that Senator Hall is not interested in looking into the problem, but the fact is that someone basically close around the area where we are dealing with this problem . And I Would hope that that would be the case.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any further discussion? If not, Senator Shaw, to close.
Thank you. I'd just ask for an Aye vote on the -- on Senate Joint Resolution 152.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Shaw moves the adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 152. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay . And the voting ls open. Have a1l voted who Wish? Have all voted who 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 Wish? Have all voted who Wish? Take the record. On that I question, there are 58 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present, and the resoluticn is adopted. CLTV News requests permission to videotape, and the Chicago Tribune requests permission to take still photographs. Leave is -- is leave granted? Leave is granted . Senate Jolnt Resolution 181. Senator Shadid. Madam Secretaryy read the resolution.
Senate Joint Resolution 181, offered by Senators Shadid and Hawklnson. There are no committee cr Floor amendments reported.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Shadid .
Mr. -- Mr. Chairman, the resolution is exactly what it says in the Calendar. It sets forth the explanationr arguments and ballct form prepared by the Joint Committee on the Amendment on Child Wltnesses regarding the proposed constitutional amendment to appear on the 1994 general election ballot.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? If not -- if not, Senator Shadid moves the adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 181. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have al1 voted Who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On that questicn, there are 58 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. And the resolution is adopted. . .. tmachine cutoffl...now go to the top of page 11, to the Order of Conference Committee Reports. On the top of page 11 is House Bill 1915. Madam Secretary, do you have a file on Conference Committee Report on Hcuse Bill 19157
Yes. First Conference Committee -- Seeond Conference 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 Committee Report on House Bi1l 1915. PRESIDING OFFICER ! : (SENATOR DUDYCZ) i Senator Demuzio.
Thank you very muchr Mr. President: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I will, in fact, be moving to concur -- or, to adopt the Second Conference Committee Repcrt on House Bill 1915, Whlch ncw is -- it has been represented to me as a compromise between the architects and the residential interior designers and the interior design coalition. Apparently there has been some controversy with respect to the duties and responsibilitles of those individuals and groups that I have just mentioned. It's my understanding now that thls is now a compromise. There is no opposition, and I would move for the adoption of the Conference Committee No. 2 to House Bill 1915.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? If not, Senator Demuzio moves -- the question isr shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 1915. Those in favor Will vcte Aye. Oppcsed will vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have a1l voted Who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who Wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 55 Ayes, no Nays: 3 voting Present. And the Senate does adopt Conference Committee Report No. 2 on House Bill 1915, and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 230. Senator Farley. Madam Secretary, read the conference committee report.
Eirst Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 230.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Farley.
17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 Thank ycu, Mr. President; Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I would move to concur With -- or, adopt Conference Committee I i Report No . l to Senate Bill 230. This conference commlttee report permits Commonwealth Edison to use a rider to pass along to consumers the federally required costs of decommissioning its nuclear power plants. Thls rider provides fcr the Commerce Commission to review and the raising or lowering of rates, depending upcn the actual costs of retiring these plants. The report specifies that the rider can be granted, and it must be brought before the Commission in the form of a public hearing. The report ls a direct result of negotiations between Commonwealth Edison, the Manufacturers ' Associaticn and the Citizens Utility Board. I would ask for ycur favorable vote on this conference committee report.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? Senator Mahar.
Thank your Mr. President and Members. I rise in support of the First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 230, and I want to ccmmend Senator Farley, the sponsor of the bill, for not rushing to judgment on the -- on consideration of the bill Which passed the House. What we have before us has involved conslderable negotiatlons on all the parties: as he has mentionedy and we have a far tlghter bill and one that protects the rights of the consumers, as he mentioned. There is a hearing process now at the beginning, which there never Was before. There's a reconciliation element. The Finkl's Decision, which many have considered would have been overturned by the previous -- previous bill is now out, and that -- that decision has now been protected. And we even have a -- a mandatory review pericd of this rider by the Illinois Commerce Commission. I believe this bill passed the House last night with 113 votes. There is no compelling reason ! 18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 not to support it, and I hope a11 the Members Will. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) I Any further discussion? Senator Welch. : i SENATOR WELCH: ' . I had a question of the sponsor. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Sponsor indicates he will yield. Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH: Senator Farley, will this raise utility rates for customers of Commonwealth Edison, and if sor how much w1ll it raise them? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Farley . SENATOR EARLEY: No, it wonlt. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH: Then -- then who is going to come up With the money? Is that coming from shareholders, or where -- where does the noney come from to put into this trust fund? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Farley. SENATOR FARLEY: Well, it's my understandlng that they already have to pay the decommissioning costs, so this just spells it out. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any further discussion? Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH: Wellr yesr they pay somer but Commonwea1th Edison has stated that the cost that they estimated to decommission a plant are too low. So they ra ised them to something like nine hundred and six million dollars for decommissioning Dresden - up frcm a 19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30: 1994 six-hundred-and-thirty-one-million-dollar amount. So, where is -- if there's no increase in rates, why do We need legislation? Because we passed a law about six years ago that says they have to put money in a separate trust fund. . PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Farley. ; SENATOR FARLEY: Well, it's my understanding that the rider does nct increase the rates; that the Conmission would be granting the rate increase. So this doesn 't, in my understanding, affect that. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH: Well, the utillty asks for the rate increase and the -- and the Commerce Ccmmission basically expedites the hearing on it, and then they, basically, pass it along. They took out the word ! ''automaticfl, but it's still going to be pretty much agreed to. Sc, in effect, what's gotng to happen is rates are going to gc up throughout the State cf Illinois. Sc, that seems to me to be what the bill does. It increases utility rates for Commonwealth Edison custcmers. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) 1 Any further discussion? Senator Palmer. i . SENATOR PALMER : Thank you, Mr. President. A questlon of the sponsor. PRESIDIKG OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Sponsor indicates he will yield . Senator Palmer. SENATOR PALMER : Senator Farley, what does this mean ln the analysis that deletes the provision that public utilities, so forth and so on, may invest part of their retained earnings to project -- projects j financed by the Illinois Affordable Housing Trust Fund? Could you l 1 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30r 1994 explain that, please?
PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Farley.
This doesn't affect any part of that. That Was existing language, and it's just part of the analysis. So it's part of the original blll.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Palmer.
So thls does not mean that this money is taken out of that fund?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Farley.
Na, it does not.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any further discussion? If not, Senator Farleyy to close.
Well, I would just urge a favorable vote on thisy Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlenen of the Senate.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) The question is, shall the Senate adopt Conference Committee Report Nc . 1 on Senate Bill 230. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Take the record. On thak question, there are 50 Ayesy 6 Nays, 1 voting Present, and the Senate does adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 230. And the billy having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. ...tmachine cutoffl...now the intent of the Chair to proceed to the Order of House Bills 3rd Reading. If you'll turn your Calendars to the top ; 21 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 of page 4 of today's regular Calendar, we wlll go to the Order of House Bills 3rd Reading. House Bill 2444. Senator Phillp, do you wish this bill returned to 2nd Reading for the purposes of an amendment? Senator Philip seeks leave cf the Bcdy to return House Bil1 2444 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendment. Hearing no objection: leave is granted. On the Order of 2nd Reading is House Bill 2444. Madam Secretary, are there any Floor amendments approved for consideration?
Amendment No. 2: offered by Senators Syverson, O 'Malley, Rauschenberger, Lauzen, Fitzgerald and Burzynski. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) 1 ! Senator Syverson. I I ! SENATOR SYVERSON: ! ; Thank you, Mr. President. Senate Amendment 2 is a good-government neasure, which stops the per diem in those years when the General Assembly has not passed a budget by the deadliner which would be June 30th. 1111 answer any questions. Otherwise, ask for a favorable vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any discussion? Senator Hall.
Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of -- of the Senate. The eternal question: What do you hope to gain by this?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Syverson.
Senator, at a time that we have passed pay raises, that we ean't meet a budget, a time when people are talking about term limitations, I think the last thing that we should be doing is telling the people of our district that we had a time frame to get our work done, and we did not get it done, so We dre going to ask 22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 youy the taxpayers, to pay us to be down here in overtime to get that work done. One of the things that We learned in school is you don't wait till the last minute to get your work done. We've learned that since we were little kids. Yet here, we wait till the last minuter we don't get our work done, and we expect the taxpayers to pay for it. I think this sends a clear signal to the taxpayers that we are going to carefully guard their dollars, and this would not be a good use of those dollars. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) I i E Senator Hall.
Well, I think it's -- it's time of futility that you're doing these things. I mean, that you don't, for one -- think that it's going to be passed by b0th Houses, do you?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is that a questionr Senator?
I asked that question.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Syverson.
I certalnly hope it'll be passed by both Houses. They certainly have to be responsible to the people of their districts. And if they don't pass it in their -- ln the other House, then they're going to have to respond to their people as of Why they felt it necessary to continue to receive pay past the deadline.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Hall.
Well, I reiterate what I tcld you in the committee meeting. This is terrible. In my thirty-cne years here, I've never seen a bill this bad, and so you know IIm going to be No. 23 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any further dlscussian? Senator Hendon. SENATOR HENDON: Thank you, Mr. President. Will the sponsor yield for a ' - I questlon? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Sponsor -- sponsor indicates he will yield. Senator Hendon. SENATOR HENDON: senator Syverscn, my good frlend, if your intent here is to get the Legislature to take scme action, why dldn 't you put this in a month ago? Because it seems to me that we 've been sitting around here for a month not dcing anything, and the per diem is -- has been being paid. So if your intent is to move us to action, then I think that your bill should say anytime When we don't get anything accompllshed, we shouldnft get the per diem . Nowr my question to you is: Why are you going to wait, at this hour herer to bring up thls clearly point-making-back-home amendment? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Syverson. SENATOR SYVERSON: First of all, Senator Hendon: I would be happy to cosponsor that bill With you, if you decide to send oner on days that we don't get anything done. This is not a new bill. This bill Was introduced last year, and -- and so it's been around for at least a year. And obviouslyr it's been something that's been introduced in the past. It's something that has come to light; that we had thought with the new Calendarr that we were going to be done in plenty enough time this year, and yet this year comes and it's business as usual, waiting till the last minute to get work done. The taxpayers are demanding more, and this is cur way - especially in light of what happened last week - for us to go back to the taxpayers and say that we are going to carefully guard your tax ! . 24 STATE OF ILLINOIS I 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION ' SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislatlve Day June 30, 1994 dollars. And in the future -- it may not help thls year, but maybe next year itdll help, and We'll -- we'll push our Leaders to get the job done sooner.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Hendon.
Will this also apply to the Governor? Because it's -- it's clear to me that the lack of leadership starts at the top. So if nothing is -- has gotten done, are you golng to cut off the Governor's salary as well? Because if -- I Want to make the - I point that everybody in this Chamber is not wealthy. There's some of us whc this is a1l we do, such as myself. I don't have a -- I'm not a lawyer; I don,t have a legal business on the side; z : i have no other business on the side. I just do the business of the people of ny district. So what youlre daing -- and -- and to a large degree, to some extent, it -- it's almost -- and I -- I Want : - - wellr let me couch it right, but it's almost putting thcse of us who are -- who are not wealthy in a position where we -- We will be forced to pass something like the Governor's crazy bcnd plan that would have bankrupted this State and cost the taxpayers of this State about four hundred million dollars when you add the - - the -- the taxes, the -- the fees on 1t: the fines and the interest. If we're under that kind of pressure, you will be actually forclng us to vote for some bad bills, because we can't ! afford to be down here protecting the interest of our people. So are you trying to change this Chamber lnto one that is only for people who are wealthy, who can afford to come down here and not get any kind of compensation?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) We now have seven additional speakers that wish to be recognized. Senator Syverson.
25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 Senator -- Senator Hendon, I think -- I think you know better, and you, being a good-government Senator, understand how many days that we were down here, we didn't get things done because We didn't push our Leaders. And so this is an opportunityy in future l years, that we need to be pushing our people to ge* things -- to . get things done. There's no reason why we have to go past that date. We had a Calendar that was agreed to by bcth parties. I'm sorry Madigan decided to go on vacation and decided to change the Calendars. Therefs no reason Why the taxpayers have to subsidize that change of Calendar. We could have been done here weeks ago, if we'd have done what the original Calendar was set to do.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Hendon.
Last week the Honorable Senator Raica; who sits on that side of the aisler myself and Senator Molaro attempted to get this Senate to hear the budget as a Committee of the Whole. I did not see you supporting that, nor did I see any of the other people whose names is on this bill supportin: that. So we had an opportunity last week to start dealing With this as a Committee of the Whole, and you did not support it. But just because some of ! i you ean afford to eome down here and not get the little per dlem you want to foree this down our throat and then force us to actian. I don't care if I have to stay here tlll December. If it takes that long to protect the taxpayers' money of this State, then we should do that. Let me say something about Mike Madigan. I'm nct necessarily a fan of his, but at least he shows leadership. At least Pate Philip shows leadershipr at least Emil Jones -- shows leadership . If you want to cut off somebody's salary for lack of leadership, then you cut off Governor Edgar's salaryr 'cause he's shown no leadership.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) 26 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH CENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 Any further diseussion? Senator Geo-Karis. SENATOR GEO-KARIS: I Mr. President and Ladles and Gentlemen of the Senate, don't talk to me about leadership. My President met With the Speaker of the House months ago, set up the Calendar, as Senator Syverson . said; he agreed to the Calendar. The next thing we know everything's been continued and continued over -- over there. And when you want to talk about what it costsr a 1ot of us are here where it's eosting us far more than you would ever realize: because we want to do a job and do it right. But wedre not going to be doing it right just to Waste the taxpayers' money and go on day after day collecting per diem when this Whole business shculd have been settled at least a month ago. And you knok it and I know it. When you want to talk that this is -- this is not helping the poor people, you 're wrong. We had a very good budget that would help the pcor people. So what happens? We're gcing to sit here day in, day out, get eighty-one dollars a day. For what? If we 're really responsible, we'll support this resolution and realize that we'd better finish our business and finlsh it tonight. If wedre golng to be here tomorrow and the next day, then the taxpayers should not have to pay for it. I think we're being more responstble: and I'm sick and tired of having you bash the Governor. He has shown great responsibility. He has tried to keep expenses down. This is something scne of you don't understand, and yet you want to bash him constantly. Well, you can bash a1l you like, but the people know better. And I?m telling you right now, this is a responsible thing to do. Let's cut off the money at the trough. Let's get our work done and get it done by tonight.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any further diseussion? Senator Jacobs.
I 27 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Perhaps if we would amend this and just make it -- beings the problem seems to be the other side of the rotunda, from what I hear - we amend that and make -- just make the House Members eligibler it'd probably pass out of here unanimously. But,.you know, what we're really talking about here isr to me -- and I'm sorry, Senator, I just -- I just am a little miffed, I guess, at why we would even want to do this. This is a process of controly and we a11 know that. Senator Raica, last Week you 'd start talking about let's take this process back. I agree. We have to take this process back. But at this time, it has nothtng to do with the process that we want; it's the process Wefre operating under. We, too, as legislators, as individuals, want to get the hell out of here, and we Want to get out of here tonlghtr but We also are being held hostage by vlrtue of the system, which doesn't allcw us to proceed. We have meetings upon meetings. Yesterday the Governor comes up and says we've got three hundred and eighty-some millicn dollars more. Well, that changes a 1ot of things. We have to have time to look at those dollars to find out if those dollars are truly there. Now, to say to a legislator - and many of us on this side of the aisle may not be quite as affluent as thcse on the other side of the atsle - and to ask a legislator to come doWn here and do his job and then to pay for their own expenses out of their own pocket when they too are being held hostage, makes -- makes veryy very little sense to me. I would agree wlth what Rickey Hendon said. If wefre aWare of thi: and if that helps us get our job done faster, and you want to change the date on this ta next yearr maybe that's what we should do. I think there's a lot of good procedures out here that we should be looking at. This one I don't think fills the bill. But there 's a lot of them that try to get our work done by April. There's a 1ot of them that try to get a budget done much earlier 28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Leglslative Day June 30r 1994 I than waiting till after the June 30th date. That is not : happening. We have to take this system back. Hopefully wefll be able to do that, but I think to -- to attempt to do this at this k late date ls a -- really a little bit foolhardy, Senator. And I think I know what your intentions are. I agree with your intentions, to get our work done. I don't think this will force us, because the Leaders still are going to control our destiny, and that's the problem with your motion. PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any further discussion? Senator Shaw. . !
Thank you, Mr. President. The -- will the sponsor yield?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Sponsor indicates he will yield. Senator Shaw.
Does -- you're taking -- you're saying - according to this amendment, you 're saying that the House Members will no longer get paid thelr per diem if the business is not finished by June 30th. Is that right?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Syverson.
Excuse ne. Can you repeat that? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) ' Senator Shaw.
In accordance With this -- Wikh this amendment, you 're saying that the Rouse and Senate Members will no longer get paid if they don't finish the people's business by June 30th. Is that right?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Syverson.
! 29 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30p 1994 No, that's -- that's not true. They'll -- they 'll no longer get thetr per diem . They'll continue to get their paycheck, and lt -- when I say the people's business, that means if the budget's passed and there's still other wcrk that needs to be done, their per diem would continue. It's just based on the budget.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Shaw.
The -- does that apply to the directors of various agencies as well?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Syverson.
No. Legislators.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDVCZ) Senator Shaw .
To the -- to the amendment. We passed -- and just for the benefit of the Membership here: we passed a -- a constitutional amendment back a feW Weeks agor moving the date from -- from June 30th to May 31st. Now: this is not a timely anendment. What do we do -- what do we do if we go over -- in accordance with the constitutional amendment and present law, What do we do if we pass May 31st7 Thls is a bad amendment here. And I'd like to -- I'd like for you to answer that.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Syverson.
Senator Shaw r if the apendment -- if the constitutional amendment passes -- this -- this bill is not predicated upon the constitutional amendment. If the eonstitutional amendment is passed in November, then we 'll readdress that next spring, and 30 STATE OP ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 obviously change that date to a June 1 date. I 1
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Shaw. !
Is -- is -- is this one of the bills that you extended the deadline on, until January 10th3
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Syverson.
Yes. PRESTDING OFFICERI (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Shaw.
Why wouldn't we just wait and hold this -- and hald this amendment?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Syverson.
I'd prefer that if they want to hold itr they can hold it over in the House. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) I Senator Shaw.
Let me ask you another question. And, long as you are concerned about the -- the -- the taxpayers of this State - and I - - I -- that's commendable of you. We voted a pay raise here a feW days ago. Are you going to accept that pay increase, or are you going to give it back? SENATOR SYVERSON) Senator...
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Syverson. 31 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30: 1994 SENATOR SYVERSON) Senator, that -- that pay raise does noE go into effect for us until January of 1997. So that dcesn't go into effect for myself.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Shaw. '
No . Wi11 you accept the -- the cost of living and the -- we get the cost of living July 1, which is -- starting -- beginnin: tomorrow. Will you accept that cr give it back? I know you vcted against it.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Syverson.
1'11 be more than happy to discuss my personal finances with you later.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Shaw. Any further discussion? Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you, Mr. President. You know, I cannot let another day pass with the Senator Hendon mathematics. Yesterday he demonstrated Ehat -- nothing plus nothing equals something, and nothing plus something equals nothinç. Let me give you an example. There was a bill here that would have brought somethlng into his district, and he was against it because it was bringing nothing, even though it was bringlng something. So insteadr he tried to demonstrate that by nat having it there, he Was going to get something. Well, today he's one better. He left a job in the City Council that paid more money, 'cause he thought with a lower salary and per diem, he would make more doun here. Okay? That -- that is the new math. And I would tell you that if you're goin: to be my advisor on any type of -- yeah, you sure aren't going to be my advisor, pal. But if you're going to be my advisor on any 32 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSTON SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30: 1994 mathematical situations, spare yourself. I don't need that kind of advice.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Rendon, state your point. SENATOR HENDON: ' ' I -- I -- the lntelligent and brilliant Senator Dehngelis just inferred that I cannot add. Well, I want him to know that I -- I can add very, very well. And I knew when I was coming here that I was going to be taktng a pay cut, and that's not why -- I'm not down here to make the money. I'm down here to serve ny constituents, and I will not be blaekmailed, or Whitemailed, or whatever you want to call it, and to be put into a position to where I have to vote for some junk because I can't afford to be down here, because I'm not as rich as he is.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any further discussion? Senator -- Senator Demuzio.
Welly thank you very much, Mr. President. I -- I would hope that while youlre in the Chairr that somehow or ather you night be able to get order over this debate. Apparently it has gone pretty wide and pretty -- pretty loose, but -- and I guess that's the Way - - that's your presiding style, apparently. I'd like to have a ruling from the Chairr if I might.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any further discussicn?
I'd like to have a ruling from the Chair, if I might. In fact, Mr. President, President Phillp did, in fact, give the Secretary of the Senate a letter a few minutes ago that was read that said that House Bill 2444 was exempt until January the 10th of 1995. I know Senaeor Shaw has alluded to that, but I would like to ask the sponsor a question, is -- is why were we extending ! 33 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 the deadline if, in factr the measure is before us at the moment?
PRESIDTNG OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Syverson. Senator Demuzio. Demuzio.
Whlle yousre getting the answer .to that one, perhaps I could ask you one. Perhaps a ruling from the Chair, perhaps. I mean, if in factr now that this has now been journalized, in factr this bill is noW waived until January the 10th of 1995. Is it -- can you cite the rule by which it is now before us?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Ies, Senator Demuzio. Senate Rule 2-10(e). Senator Demuzio.
Can you -- can you tell me what that rule states and their logic as to why this is happening?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Demuzio, Senate Rule 2-10(e) states, 'The President may schedule deadlines for any other actlon on any category of legislative measure as he or she deems appropriate.'' Is there any other discussion? Senator Demuzio.
Well, first of all, I -- I didn't get an answer from the -- from the sponsor about my particular questionr and I would now request that the sponsor answer Why, in facty we are -- Why We Waive the deadlines and now it's before us.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Syverson.
We have passed the deadline for the House Bill 3rd Readings, and that's why the date Was extended.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Demuzio.
I 34 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30r 1994 Well, if, in fact, this bill were called tomorrow , none Lf us who would be here would be able to get per dtem, if this were ta be in effect. Is that -- is that correct?
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Syverson. .
ff it passed both Chambers and signed by the Governor that quick, that would be correct. PRESIDING OFPICER) (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Demuzio.
Senator Dudycz, let me indicate to you that I'm not clear about this Rule 2-10, and I'd have a great deal of argument with your but T'm not going to enter into that discourse ncw. So, thank you very much.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any further discusslcn? Senator Palmer.
Thank you, Mr. President. Question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Sponsor indicates he will yield. Senator Palmer.
Senator Syverson, I'm trying to understand the logic of this amendnent. You are saying that after June 30thz if the General Assembly has failed to pass a State budget, legislators can no longer receive alloNancesy per diem and so forth. Now, reality says that we do go beyond that time, and that was when your side was in the Minority, and ncw our side. That's pclitical reallty. So, whc will wcrk on the budget after June 30th# and are you suggesting then that those of us who are not in Leadership, who are regular Members of the Body, sueh as you and I and many others, are no longer to participate in the process? Are We not 35 STATE OP ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislakive Day June 30z 1994 to be here? Will ue do this by teleconference? How will we conmunicate with each other and participate, Which is the reasan that my constituents sent me down here?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Syverson.
We have a certain amount of days that we have put intc place to do the business of our constituents down here. If we can't get those done by June 30th, then we should do one of tWo things. Let's stay home in May and put those extra days on in July, if that's What we want to do. We have a certain amount of daysr and it's our job to force our Leadership to sit downy maybe sooner, and get our work done in those days that We are gtven. Why do We have to Wait till after July every year to Work on a budget? This is going to force us to get our work done in the allotted days that we told our taxpayers that we Would get them done 1n.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Palmer.
Thank you, again. Senator Syversonz I know it's become very popular to use the business model as that by which a1l other bodies should operate. I would llke to know from you -- just give me some for instances in the State of Illinois of corporations or any business body that is so restricted in its ability to operate as you would restrict this Body, which is doing the people's bustness. Government is messy. 1* ls noE as clear-cut. And I'm not convinced that business is that clear-cut. So would you just give me an example, and are you willlng to apply this as well to other operations?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Syverson.
36 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30r 1994 In business there are lots of examples. When a contractor comes ln and gives a deadline of when he's going to get his Wcrk I done, he gets his Work done or he is penalized. We don't pay them ! extra because they didn't get their Work done in allotted time. It's very common sense.... PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR DUDYCZ) : Senator Palmer. i
Last remarks. Nonsensey Senator Syverson. If that Were the 5 case, we would not have so many businesses coming before us on so ! many commlttees; we Would not have so many municipalities ccming before us asking for a change in the way their business is done. ! It is not cut-and-dried. And I think that this is antidemocratic, quite frankly .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any further discussion? Senator Raica.
Thank you, Mr. President. With your permission, a question of the spcnsor, and then I'd like to rise on a point of perscnal privilege, if I might.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Spcnsor indicates he will yield. Senator Raica. ' I
Senator Syverson, I thtnk you mentioned during your explanation that if the Senate did reach a budget compromise prior : to June 30th, that we would be able to receive per diem after June 30th, so long as we did the budget and the -- the -- that type of paperwork. Sor in other words, are you saying we can be here till August, so long as the budget is done, and collect per diem? You a re .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Syverson. 37 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislatlve Day June 30: 1994
Thatts correct. PRESTDING OEFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) ! I Sezzbor Raica. @ i SENATOR RAICA: . ! Well then, sonehow I donft understand why thls is in to begin with. Because if youdre saylng our -- cur business should be done June 30th but it's okay to be here till September, so long as the budget is passed, we can collect all the per diem We want - I : think this is a little ridiculousr but it's -- I understand. Nowr on a point of personal privilege, if I nighty Mr. President. !
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) State your polnt. :
And I would like to address this to Senator Demuzior if I mightr but not inclusive cf Senator Demuzlo. Ever since the Republicans have been in the Majorityy there have been shots taken l at the Presldent and at the Chair. The person who happens to be in the chair nou is a good frlend of mine, just like any of the i other people that we would have on this side of the aisle that are in the Chair. I do not feel, as a Member of this Body, that anyone should be taking a cheap shot: whether it's for press purposes or for whatevers on someone's style ln the Chair. Ted I Lechowicz had a unique style when he was in the Chair thak a lot ! of people didn't really appreciate, but no one took a shot at Senator Lechowicz when he was in Ehe Chair. When John D 'Arco Was in the Chairhe had a uniquestyle - so did SenatorSavickasand 1 so did President Rock - but nobody took cheap shots at styles. l Now , I know it's late, but everyone here is elected by their constituency, and if we need to put building blocks here to show Minority-Majority, then maybe uefll explain how that works. But as it stands right now, this side of the aisle is the Majority, i 38 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 and we're hearing the same speeches that we did before. So I jusk feel that that was inappropriate to make, demeaning to the Chair: and Would hope that it uouldn't happen for the rest of this Sesslon. And I -- I'n not asking for an apology, but I think ' Senator Dudycz, along With everybody Who's in the Chair, Whether it had been a Republican or Democrat, has done the best possible job that they haver and I hope we don't need any more of that this year.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any further discussion? Senatcr Carroll.
Thank your Mr. President. Let me just eeho Senator Raica's remarks. And I think it would always be tnappropriate to comment on the Chair, and I am not going tor nor ask a question. Let me just comment on what's before us, however, and whatfs been said. The suggestion was we should have been ou* of here by the end of May. Ir for one, had hoped we would. After all, June's a wonderful month in this State, and under President Philip and with the approval of Speaker Madigan, at least we've had part of June to be back in our districts for the first time: at least in my history as a Member of the Illinois General Assembly. But think of what we wculd have had to do to have gotten out of here the end of May. Some may have llked it. 1, for one, didn 't. Obviously a 1ot of others didn 't. We wculd have had to, this year, take the State down a path of, fcr the first time ever, putting us into fiscal irresponsibility of long-term borrowin: to pay for operations - something we, and maybe many of you, did not want to do. But that was the choice presented to us in May; that I hope people believe - and I know everyone in this Chamber really believes deep down - the right choice was made not to start down a road, for ehe very first timew of borrowing for day-to-day operations - something we should never do. So now what do we do 39 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH ZENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 to comply with this Act? Governor said, up to a Week ago, borrow our way out of this problem, and that was the only budget emanating from the Second Floor and presented to this Chamber. Lo and behold - lo and behold - a mere twenty-four, twenty-five, - I twenty-six hours ago, magie appeared like the rabbit out of the ! hat, and the Governor found three hundred and eighty-eight million dollars. Found. A very prominent Republican asked me yesEerday as I was going up to one of the budget hearings, ''What does three ! hundred and eighty-eight million dollars look like when a Governor finds it magically one day? Is it in an envelope? Is it in a briefcase? Where is it?'' Now, the question is rhetcrical, but the question isr today 's the last day where we could act on a budget under this proposal: responsibly, according to the sponsor. Lo and behold, yesterdayr three hundred and eighty-etght million dollars...
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) I beg your pardon, senator carroll. Senator Philip, for what purpose do you rise?
Point of order. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) I State your point.
You know, speak -- speak to the subject. And I might remind Senator Carroll and everybody here, I can remember the City of Chicago bailout. A11 right. The Clty of Chicago bailout Was al1 right. Three hundred and eighty-six mlllion dollars, with no plan whatsoever. After two years, it goes down the drain. At least the Governor's plany after two years we start paying it off. You had no plan Whatsoever to pay it off, and you don't have one today. Now tell me What the difference is, Senator Carroll. It's a11 right for the City of Chicago schools, but it isn 't a11 right 40 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLZ REGULAR SESSION SSNATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 for the State of Illinois. Hogwash!
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Carroll. I SENATOR CARROLL) Thank you, Mr. President. I accept the point of orderr Mr. President. I don 't know What it meantr but 1'11 accept the point of order. Point is -- and that plan is now off the table, 'cause the Governor found money, and that's speaking to the point. Maglc money . No one knows khere it comes fromz but we get less than a day to find out if he's telling the truth . Well, you knowr We've done a 1ot of things this year on three strikes and ycu're out. It's a lifetime sentence then. That's the new theme of criminal law. Let's look at the record. Last year in July We passed hundreds of millions of dollars of taxes at the Governor's suggestion. We taxed cigaretkes. We taxed hospitals. We taxed nursing homes. Lo and behold: four months later he's off by seven hundred and sixty million dollars. Year before - year beforer three strikes. Why should we believe this in twenty-four hours?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Watson. Excuse me. Senator Carroll, excuse me. Pirst of all, the Associated Press is requesting leave to take photographs. If there's no objection, leave is granted. Senator Watsan, for What purpose dc you rise?
Well, thank you. I guess for a point of personal privilege.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) State your point.
I'm -- I'm sitting here, and I thought we were talking about House Bill 2444, but ncw a1l I hear is grandstanding from the other side of the aisle on an issue that has nothlng to do with this particular point of order. And I think we ought to go back 41 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 to the issue at hand and discuss the merits of this and not get off on some dialogue that he plays to the media and plays to the press, and that's a1l this is. We know it. We all s1t here and knov it. Ycu know it over there. We know it over here. That's 1 ' - p all .this is. So let's get back to the order of business and go ! to Senator Syverson's bill. l PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) ! I Senator Carroll. ! SENATOR CARROLL: I Thank you, Mr. President. The point of this resolution is ' . j getting a budget done by June 30. How, in good conscience, could fifty-nlne Members of the Senate, a hundred and eighteen Members I ë of the House, suddenlyr blindly accept numbers from an I i administration that has proven itself to flnd the numbers to be inaccurate, according to its own statements? How could we 1 blindly, ln twenty-four hours, accept those kind of numbers to balance a thirty-two-blllion-dollar budget? I say this year : proves that this resolution... !
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENAQOR DUDYCZ) I beg your pardon, Senator Carroll. Senator Carroll. Senator Fawell, for what purpose do yeu rise? SENATOR FAWELL: ' Mr. President, I think Senator Watson's point was well-taken. Having sat on the Appropriations Committee fcr approximately eight or ten yearsrfor the former speakerto getup and to say thakwe 1 have never borrowed before, when that particular person, While he i kas the head of the Appropriations Committee, constantly borrowed from the pensions, which is one of the reasons we are in this l problem, and very frankly, he borrowed from the pensions without I asking anybody if it kas okay and then stood up year after year after year and infcrmed us that, indeed, the budget Was balanced, uhen it was balanced on the backs of the people who we are trying f 42 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 to ncw take care of under the present budget, I think, is a little j blt, if not hypccrisy, certainly misinformation. I suggest that ! i we call for the questlon and vote up or down whether: indeedy we j would like to see House Bill 2444 passed or falled. !
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) I Senator Carroll. l SENATOR CARROLL: ! Thank you. Mr. President. I had been trying to close When you cut me offy but I do feel I must answer the point of personal 1 privllege, I guess it was called. T personally have never borrowed a dime from the Pension Fund. I don't borrow money. So I don't -- I haven't borrcwed from them or anyone else. I do I ' recall Governor Thompson often taking the money. Took it down to sixty pereent. I
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) ! Senator... SENATOR CARROLL: r ! I'm answerlng the point... !
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) SenatorCarroll,please--pleasekeep your remarks to the amendment. 1 ;
Okay. Well, I'm answering the point of personal privilege ! about the Penslon Fund. I put in the bill and the amendments to put back that money that the then Governor kept vetoing. To this point, thoughr and 1911 clcse. The polnt ls: If we are to be responsible, maybe this budget should have been done a long klme ago, but the magic money was just announced yesterday. To be responstble, you cannot - you cannct - in good conscience believe, blindlyr that that money is there. You've got to be able to question it, and you can 't put this budget together before midnight tonight whentheGovernorcomesupwithmagicmoneyout 1 43 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Leqislative Day June 30r 1994 of the rabbitts hat. And I suggest, therefore, the timeliness of i this is irresponsible. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) 2 Any further discussion? Senator Lapaille. I i . SENATOR LaPAILLE: j Yes. Will the Gentleman yield for a question? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) I Sponsor indicates he Will yield. Senator Lapaille. SENATOR LaPAILLE: ! Senator Syverson, uhen did -- when you did your research on . I this legislationr what -- uhat was the trend that made you decide that nok Was the time to move on this? Was there a certain : Session or year when this became a problem? I p PRESIDING OFFTCER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator -- Senator Syverson. SENATOR SYVERSON: : I think it's been a -- I think it's been a problem for a long time. We have a certain allotted amount of days that we have told the people we were going to get their work done. Now we come doWn ! herey we give ourselves pay raises: and we say, ''Wel1, we're not I golng to get our uork done. We're going to stay down here longer. l k So we want you to continue Eo pay us,'' when we canft pay our bills. Let's show some fiscal responsibility. Let's show the taxpayers that we are concerned about the dollars, and let's get ! the work done. I -- I don't understand why We can 't start work a week earlier and get the budget done. It shouldn't be that -- it shouldn't be that difflcult, to always Wait till the last minute. ! PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Lapaille. SENATOR LaPAILLE: Senator Syversonr I've done some research and I looked at the Legislative Research Unit's summary: and you can safely say that I 44 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislatlve Day June 30z 1994 for the last twenty years - starting, let's say, '70 to 1990 - the average adjournment has been July l - maybe early in the morning hours - or July 2. There was one exception, 1985 Was July 5th . Okay? And that's when the then Governor Thcmpson and the other . Leaders had an arrangement on Build Illinois, and it kas the House Minority Leader that really started Ehis whole marathon process of golng ineo overeime. Under those years of Governor Thompson, the average was July 1. I think we a11 remember about July 1. But then 1991 eame rolling around. Okay? We adjourned July 19th. Then last year came rolling around, under a new administration. We adjourned July 13th. So I Would submit that this is a recent development of going into marathon Sessions' because the past Governor for fourteen years wcrked with a Democratic House and a Democratic Senate. And we could have really caused overtlmes if we didn't have it our way a11 the time, but there was a person in that office that knew how to sit downr negotiate and be honest and know the process. Senator Syversons the buzz Word about belng a fiscal conservative, and let's save the taxpayerr is a1l well and goodr but you hesitated on the COLA increase. So for you to be a sponsor of this and say you're a taxpayer's friend and yet hesitate on that, I think you got khe wrong sponsor on this. Number two, ever since I graduated college I've been down here in Springfield and worked with House Members and Senate Members, and there are eertain things that you do that are self-inflicted wounds. This ls a self-inflicted wound on the process and a1l your colleagues. Because now the news will be, HTheyfre trying to stop per diemsl'' and you create problems that really aren't there. Because the average adjournment has been July 1, July 2, until a new administration came in in '91. And I think the Whole theme of this is, if you don't do it our way and we get out of here June 30 w1th this budget that we prepare, well then: we're going to punish you. Well, 1'11 tell you cne thing: Last year you tried to rough 45 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 us up, thought We Were goin: to be disjointed and disor:anized, i and we stood behind Senator Emil Jones and our leadership here. So take our per diem away, take our milk and cookies away - whatever you Want to do - but Wedre here to stay, and Wedre here behind our Leader. And this Democratic side, With or without a per diem, is going to put it to the Governor, and we 're going to make sure that we pass a good budget. And wedre not gcing to be playing folly of -- of self-inflicted wounds on the process. ' END OF TAPE TAPE 2
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Further discussion? Senator Carroll, for the second time.
.. amicrophone cutoffl...parliamentary inquiry - not to speak on this issue. T am reliably informed that Representative Dantels just announced in *he House that *he Senate was having a budget hearing on a Republican budget at 7 o 'clock this evenîng. Since we have not seen or heard anything about it, a question of the Chair as to whether Representative Daniels' comments Were aecurate. He made this as an anncuncenent on the House Flocr. PRESIDING OFFTCER; (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Maitland.
Thank you very much, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Senator Carroll, the Minority Leader was accurate tn that there Was going to be a budget hearing this eveningy and we are waiting patiently to -- to get *he paper together, to get the bill in 46 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30r 1994 proper form. And it appears now that we Will be shortly announcing a budget ccnference at about 7:30. So lt is -- it 1sr in fact: true: and we'll 1et you know just as soon as We know officially.
PRESIDING OEFICZR: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Carroll.
Thank your Mr. President. I just find it interesting that We get our information from announcements on the House Floor. Thank you.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Question havtng been noved previously, Senator -- Senator Jones.
Yeah. Thank you, Mr. President. I'd like to correctr for clarificaticn. He was talking about the House Minority Leader. But the Members on this side of the aisle Who Want to participate in the process do not get their messages from the Hcuse or from television in Chicago about a 7 o'clock budget hearing . Here We have a -- a bill before us to cut off per diemy and you talk about openness and fairness for the Membership. I think it's totally improper that an announcement would be made on the House Flccr, which you would have to have informed them of such. And we talk about the entire budgetary process. If we had followed the dictates, according to Senator Syverson, we would have ripped the taxpayers off in Illinols for more than tWo hundred million dollars, and you voted for that bond authorization. And if the admlnistration knew they had this -- thls three hundred and eighty-eight million dollarsr it was their right to tell us so. Sc you want to rip the taxpayers off. We save the taxpayers. But if you're going to talk about fairness and openness in the i process, and you 're talking about treating the Chair proper, you, ! 1 47 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 Mr. Chairman of Appropriation, I think you owe an apology to the Minority Spokesperson on this side. If you intended to do thatr I yououeusthecourtesyrtherespectrasaMem ber of this Chamber, 1 to say, ''We want to have a hearing at such tlmew'' rather than have my Clunterpart in the House nake such an announcement. You owe us an apology. PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Syverson, to close. Senator Maitlandr for what purpose do you rise? SENATOR MAITLAND: Thank you very muchr Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Senator Jones - and I want you to listen very carefully - We will meet the posting requirements for a hearing, and you will be notified that there will be a hearing, subject to our rules. I can't controlr in any way, shape or form , what goes on across the rotunda. That announcement was made some time ago. I -- I'm sorry that that happened. I'm sorry ycu learned about it the Way you did, but we are handling this just the way we are supposed tor according to our rules, and we shan't back away from that. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Syverson, to close. SENATOR SYVERSON: Thank your Mr. President. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Jones, for what purpose do you rise? SENATOR JONES: A point of personal privilege, and I don't want to interfere with... PRESIDENG OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) State your point. SENATOR JONES: ...my esteemed colleague. But that's why the process is 48 t STATE OF ILLINOIS I 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY ' REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT ( 138th Leglslative Day June 30, 1994 ! 1 delayed. It's delayed because -- I understand the rules. I understand the one-hour notice, but if you're seeing fit to notlfy your Republican colleagues in the House -- and that was no slipup E i that he made that announcement. And that's why we cannot rush to judgment. We cannot rush on a budget -- an amendment that we have not even seen. And there will be no public input at the budget hearings. And all of a sudden, this here magical dollars happened to be pulled out of a hat, and that's why, Senator Syversony that I'm golng to vote against your resolutionr or your bill, because it's impossible to do the job correct. You voted, Senator Syverson, to rip the taxpayers off far two hundred millicn dollars in borrowing - restructuring the bond and the interest that we'll have to pay - rushing to judgment. And then a11 of a sudden, in a little over twenty-four hours, we come up with a -- a maglc three hundred and eighty-eight million dollars. I think the people of our respective distrlcts expect us to come down here and do what is right. But had we had prcper notificatlon, proper input -- you want to run your budget. You've got the numbers. But you know and I know that it's nct going to Work that way. So let's quit playing games and have true democracy in this Chamber. But I didn't tell Lee Daniels that We're going to hold hearings at 7 o'clock. It must have came from your side of the aisle.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Syverson, to close.
Thank you. Again, wefre asking for a favorable vote. This is a good-government bill, at a time that welve given as a certain amount of days to get work done. We look at giving ourselves the pay raises. For those: if we're stuck here and there 's a problem with per diem y Senator Rauschenberger says everyone Ls Welcome to stay at his house, which should take care of that problem . But I ask for a favorable vote. I think this Will send a clear signal 49 ! 88T ST HAT GENO EF RAL ILL AI SN SO EM IS BLY 1 REGULAR SESSION 1 SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 to the people that we 're serious about getting our work done. Thank you.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) On Floor Amendment No. 2 to House Sill 2444, those in favor wilL vote Aye . Opposed Wikl vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. There are 41 Ayesr 17 Nays, none voting Present. And the amendment is adopted. Are there any further Floor amendments approved for consideration, Madam Secretary?
No further amendments reported.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) 3rd Reading . On the Order of 3rd Reading ls Senate Bill -- is House Bill 2444. Madam Secretary, read the bill.
House Bill 2444. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3Ed Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) WICS has requested permission to tape. If there is no objection, leave ts granted. Senator Syverson, to explain the bill. Senator Philip, for what purpose do you rise?
Mr. Presldent, I respectfully suggest, it's my bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Philip, to explain the bill.
As you know; the amendment is the bill now, and I think we 've certainly had adequate discussion on it. And 1et me just suggest this: Most of us feel that wedre down here too long; we Waste a 1ot of time. We have tried to give this Body a businesslike 50 1 ! STATE OF ILLINOIS I 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRAXSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30r 1994 l attitude and atmosphere, which is always a very difficult thing to do, particularly in an electlon year. And we have a lot cf showboats on both sides of the aisle, quite frankly. We have a very small amount of Members whc like to be down here, that enjoy that eighty-tbree dollars per diem a day. The attitude - and my . attltude, and quite frankly, the Speaker's attitude - is once yau take that per dtem awayr you take the incenttve away for people to waste time and stay down here longer than we should be. So I Would suggest we do the right thing; we pass it over to the Illinois House, 1et them adopt it and take that incentive away to waste taxpayers' money. So 1'11 ask for some favorable votes up there.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? Senatcr Welch.
I'd like to ask Senator Philip a question.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Philip -- sponsor indicates he Will yleld. Senator Welch.
Senator Philip, Senator Maitland just said that there's going ta be a budget hearing at 7 o 'clock. I would assume that's because we're going to pass the budget tonight. We're going to pass the budget on June 30th. We '11 have finished our business under this bill, buK yet the House will delay it for weeks, and because of the House, khe Senate Members will be penalized. Is that correct?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Philip.
You must realize that I'm not sure we're going to do lt at 7. We're waiting for the paperwork to be done. And let me refresh 51 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 your -- your memory. HoW many tines at 2 or 3 o'clock in the i I morning, did your people roll out a three-hundred-and-sixty-five- page conference committee report that had no public hearing; nobody knew What was in the damn thing, and they would cone over to my side of the aisle and sayr ''If you Want to stay for three or . four weeks, don't vote for it.'' And we held our nose and did it. j Everythlng we dve done thls Session has had an open public hearing. You know it and I know it. We're going to have a hearing at 7:30. Everybody knows what's in this budget. This budget was agreed to, ! quite frankly, by a 1ot of people on the other side of the aisle and a 1ot of people over in the Illinois Hcuse of Representatives. But we 're going to have a hearing. You 're going to have your opportunit l y. p
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Welch .
i Senator Philip, I think you got carried away there. I wasn't i criticizing the budget being held tonight. What I1m criticizing is the idea that this bill basically says that if you go ahead and hold your hearing, you do get your paperwork and you get bhe ; budget passed, then it's up to the House. Then the House cannot l I do anything until July 14th, like theydre saying on television. So what happens is, the Senate does their job, as usual, and the House ends up holding up everybody else. That's Nhat I'm saying. So, that's what doesn 't make sense. It should say if the Senate ! 1 I passes a budgetr the Senate gets their per dien and vice versa With the House. Maybe it should be amended tc say that. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) ! Senator Philip ; . !
Well, you know, I couldn 't agree Wkth you more, Senator Welch . Quite frankly, the House, in most cases, doesn't make a lot of 1 I 52 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Leglslative Day June 30, 1994 j : sense. You kncw, it's show time. It's an election year. Xou know, we 've got to do our funny thtngs. To the Speaker to call me and suggest they have to have a hearlng now, after last night at 10 or L1 o 'clock at nkght his -- his appointment to the budgeteers agreed to what the Governor's Office bad said on .the revenue, and thls morning they agreed to it. Then all of a sudden at 11 o'clock, they don't agree to lt. They say We have to have public hearings. We could have had public hearings this afternoon, or that Director of the Budget could have come up to their caucus, or done it today. They didn't want to do it then. They want to drag it out, draç it out, so everybody can haul out thetr list and have a11 their little gcodies on it. Wellr you know what? Welre not going to do that. We're going to be responsible in the Senate, for a change.
PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR DDDYCZ) Any further discussion? Senator Severns. Senator Jones.
Thank you, Mr. President. And I think we should clear the air as it relate to what is an agreement. I see in the balcony in there the Chief of Staff, Jim Reilly, who -- he and his alde, Mark Boozell, came in my office to see ne. And they came in and said, ''We got three hundred and eighty-eight mlllion dollars. We do not need to restructure the bonds.'' He dldn 't say we were saving taxpayers over two hundred million dollars. But he don't need to restructure the bonds, and we've got three hundred and eighty-eight million dollars. And we'd like to have the budget conferees neet. I informed them that I will look at this. I Will give it to our Appropriations Staff and see whether or not these figures are accurate. And so, I've talked with staff a11 evening and this morning, and no one on this side of the aisle agreed to no three hundred and eighty-eight million dollars. You keep talking about what happened in the House. I cannot speak for khe 53 I . STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 House. But there was no deal. There Was no deal in tbe fifteen ' or twenty minutes that 1 met wkth Jim Reilly , the Chief of Staff: and Mark Boozell. There Nas no deal on the budget as it relate to the conferees on this stde of the aisle. So I don't know why in the World you keep projecting that. It's coming from the Second Cloor that We reneged on a deal. No r we dtdn't renege on any deal. There never was one . And lf we had gone along With the proposed budget to rip off the taxpayers of Illinois -- then you should be ashamed of yourself. You should have said, ''Governor Edgar, you were wrong .'' But I haven't heard that from the other side of the aisle. We have not agreed to anything. So if the pracess is going to work, it's going to work for a1l fifty-nine Members of this Body - not a select few. My appropriation person was there, and she said there was no deal. So I don't know how in the world all of a sudden these agreements have came about that Members are supposed to have made. That is not the case. It didn't happen . You know it didn't happen. So why even have a budget hearfng when you yourselves do not know Whether or not the nonies are there? You want to rip off the children in education. All of a sudden, forty-five million dollars in gaming revenue. Are you going to take those gaming dollars and put it to education as the law calls for? We 'll see, when you hold your budget hearings. So let's qutt playkng games here. It's an election year. You know it and I know lt. But we did not make a deal. Let's make it crystal clear: No deal was made on this side of the aisle. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DDDXCZ) Any further discussion? Senator Maitland. SENATOR MAITLAND: Well, thank you, Mr. President, Members oc the Senate. Senator Jones, you weren't in that meeting last evening, and I don't know who gave you your information, but let me tell you sonething: Somewhere between the time that we left there last 54 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 i nisht and tonight, someone has given to you some information that's inaccurate or -- or something . I don't know what it is, nor do I know what the reasons. In fact, a 1ot of things has ! happened today that, frankly, I don't understand. But let me tell you sonething , sir: I chaired that conference commkttee, and the flrst thing we did last evening was ask the Governor's Officer the Bureau of the Budget, to explain the new revenue projections. Many of us had sat with them and talked with them and worked through these and had a pretty good feeling and understandingr but I Wanted to make sure, Senator Jones, that the conferees had a complete understanding of the Governor's new numbers. Your Members, our Menbers, othersr questloned the Bureau. And finally, when the questions were over, I said, ''Members, are you satisfied? Are there any other questions? Are there any disagreements?'' No one from the Minority Party in this Chamber or the Majcrity Party ' in the other side had any concerns. As a matter of fact, one Member fron the Majority Caacus on the other side of the rotunda, frankly said, ''I had my questions answered.'' We then proceeded to review - agency by agency - the Governor's new allocation of the money. It was not that different, frankly, from what we had passed out of here some weeks ago. And we went line item by line i item r and we had agreement: Senator Jones, from ycur Members. That means they didn't vcte against; they voted for. And when we had concluded several hours later, we were but twelve million E dollars apart - yes, Senator Jones, twelve million dollars apart - on the cuts and We felt that that could be worked out this norning. And We had agreed, generally, on the budget, kn the big ' scheme of thlngse except for a couple of items that Were going to be senk up to the four Leaders and the Governor this morning. And you know What one of those issues Was, Senator Jones? It Nas slightly over a forty-million-dollar add-on - add-on - that the Senate Democrats - the only caucus of the four - was wishing for. 55 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GEXERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30r 1994 We sald that will be dealt with by the four Leaders. We concluded Our Work in a harmonious Way. A11 of us, I thoughtr thought this I morning that things Would work out, and We Wculd leave this Chamber tonight With a budget cn the Governor's Desk. And a funny thing happened on the way to the vote: when the Speaker changed his mind and embarrassed a1l of us. And noW he's drawn you in too. Shame on him, shame on us, for making a mockery of the system . It is not unusual for a Governor and the Economic -- Economic Commission to make updated revenue predictions toward the end of adjournment. That's happened almost every year - Senator Carroll, you know that as well as I do - because things do change from January or February to June 25thr June 28th. Why didn't you question those numbers last night, Ladies and Gentlemen? You didn't. I would submit to you, thls is another ploy to play the televlsion camerasr and you're doing it quite Well. Let's get about the State's business.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any further discussion? Senator Severns.
Thank you, Mr. President. I feel that it is necessary to stand and attempt to correct, if not the recordy certainly a difference of opinlon as to what an agreement is. Since I do represent Senator Jones and the Democratic Caucus at the table, I feel it is necessary to correct specifically the lack of agreement on the numbers. Yesterday we were told, for the first time, that three hundred and eighty-eight million dollars Was found, and yet, as you know, Senator Maitland and other Members at the table, it was only a week agor or perhaps two, When the Bureau of the Budget was denying any of these higher revenue numbers by Ec and Fisc and -- and in addition to the new laundry list of revenue that they brought in yesterday afternoon. Specifically to Director Walters, I sald, ''Joanr I just hope your numbers have a truer record than 56 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT i l3Bth Legislatkve Day June 30r 1994 what the past numbers have beeno'' And she sald, ''Wel1, Senator, you knaW that we are never wrong on revenue; we're only Wrong on spending.' Let me just say that going back to December cf 991, we a11 remember when the Gcvernor called us back to open in January of '92 the budget that we thought We had.come to closure six months earlier, because he discovered a three-hundred-and-fifty-million-dollar hole. I don't know what it is about December and the holiday seascn, because on Friday afternoon at 2 o'clock this year - this last year - the Governor discovered a seven-hundred-and-fifty-million-dollar hole. There was no agreement to the nunbers last night. We ltstened for the flrst time, Senator Maitland, to the explanation. As you Wculd do in your own caucus, we certainly should have the opportunity ln ours, is to take the informatlon back that wedve receivedr to the table, dc our own homeworkr check and figure. Where does one find three hundred and eighty-eight million dollars, a11 of a sudden? Specifically to the forty-nillicn-dollar add-on, I think I should share with thls entire Chamber what you 're talking about. Wlthin the revenue increases that BOB said they identified, it included forty-five million dollars in new gaming revenue. We only need to go back to the gaming legislation to be reminded that, like the Lottery, this money is suppcsed to go to education. Senator Jones is the only one who has maintained at the table that the forty-five milllcn dollars in new revenue in gaming must go to education; we must stop the shell game. So to paint this as the Second Floor has, and has asked, apparently, al1 of you to do, an agreement upon the numbers is not only wrong, we ought not continue this -- thës game of disagreement. We ougbt to proceed as you would Want to proceed with three hundred and eighty-eight million dollars and hope that through *he budget-hearing process, we have a better track record demonstrated that these numbers are real than what has been demonstrated in the past. 57 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30: 1994 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) : Any further discussion? Senator Geo-Karis. I
Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, I move the previous question. .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) There's one final speaker. Senator Dlllard.
Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen cf the Senate. I rise in support of thls bill, as amended: for a couple of reasons. Importantlyz we've heard a 1ot about a lot of numbers have changed over the last twenty-four hours. Welly let's talk about the real numbers that have changed, and why we're here, why this bill is being ccnsidered, and what's going on as we slt here sort of in limbo in the last twenty-four hours of our scheduled Session. The numbers that have really changed over the last twenty-four hours appeared in the Chicago Trlbune today in a political poll which showed Governor Edgar substantially ahead of Mrs. Netsch, b(s opponent for governorship . What's happened in the last twenty-four hours - and what probably happened between lasb night and this morning - is that the Speaker of the House read that political opinion poll. Those are the numbers that he really cares about, not whether we found another hundred or two hundred or three hundred million dollarsr Whlch I would submit is a small percentage of the State budget. But the real numbers that are in question is that political poll which appeared this morning in the Chicago Tribune, and a declsion by Mike Madigan - a political animal - that he must bring this process to its knees. He must try to continue to embarrass Governor Edgar - unsuccessfullyy I might add. But those are the real numbers we're talking about - a poll which appeared in the Chicago Tribune today, Nhich led to a decision, I believer by House Democrats to say, ''Hey, that's Nhy I 58 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislatlve Day June 30, 1994 We 've got to stay here another day or two to punlsh Jim Edgar.'' But those are the real numbers we 're talking about. And why is this bill important? It's inpcrtant because it Will bring : I institutional pressure on a political animal like Mike Madlgan to adjourn this General Assembly on time .in June 30th. If you cut off our money, if you cut off our per diems, then certain Members of the Legislature will go to the Speaker and say, ''Hey, let's cut outtheshenanigans. Let'stalkabout the numbers that really count, whych are the budget numbers, not the political polling 1 i numbers.'' But in reality, what has happened here, and the numbers that have realty counted in the last twenty-four hours, is that poll whlch appeared in the Chicago Tribune, which unfortunately has been tied into our budget negotkations and the breaktng of a dealr ghich is apparently What happened in the last twenty-four hours. And I believe Senator Syverson's amendment on Senator Philip's bill is a way to bring institutional pressure upon ourselves, as the Legislature, to get on with the people's business and not worry about politlcal polls, but really carry on our business. And that's why I rise in support of this bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) WTTW-Television has requested permissicn to videotape the proceedings. Hearing no objectlon, leave is granted. President Philip, to close. !
E Igouldjustaskforafavorablerollcall. j
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) The question is, shall Hcuse Bill 2444 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed wi1l vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted whc wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record . On that question, tbere are 42 Ayesr 15 Nays, none voting Present. And House Bill 2444, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. E I 59 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 I We'11 now ço to Executive Session for the purpose of advise and consent. Mr. Secretaryr Committee Reports.
Senator Ralph Dunnr Chair of the Committee on State Gcvernment Operations and Executive Appointnents, to which Was referred the : Governor's Message of May 4th, 1994, reported the same back With the following recommendatlon that the Senate advise and consent to the following appointments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Dunn.
Thank you, Mr. President. I move the Senate resolve itself in Executive Session for the purpose of acting on the Governcr's appointments set forth in his Message of May the 4th. Mr. Presidenty with respect to the Governor's Message of that date: 1'11 read the salaried appcintments to which the Senate Committee on State Government Operations and Executlve Appcintments recommend the Senate do advise and ccnsent: To be the Director of Financial Institutions, effective May the 9th, 1994: for a term endlng January 16thr 1995, Frank Casillas of Downers Grove. Tc be the Inspector General within the Department of Mental Health for Developmental Disabilities, effectlve June the 1st, 1994, for a term ending June the 15th, 1998, Cathleen Dcmbrowskl of Springfield. To be a member of the Illinois Conmerce Conmission for a term ending January 18th, 1999, Richard Kolhauser of Springfield. And also Sakhawat -- SakhaWat Hussain, to be a -- to be a member of the Illinois Human Rights Commission for a term ending January 30th <sic> (20th)r 1997. He's frcm Frankfort. To be Chairman of the Illlnols State Labor Relations Board fot a term ending January 26th, 1998, Manny Haffman of Hazel Crest. i i 60 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislatlve Day June 30# 1994 To be a member of the Property Tax Appeal Board fcr a term ending January 18th, 1999, Charles Cain of Joliet. Mr. President, have read the salaried appointments. now seek leave to consider these appointments on a single roll call. Wl1l you put the question as required by our rules?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any discusslon? Senator Welch.
I have a question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Sponsor indicates he will yield. Senator Welch.
Senator Dunn, slnce today is June 30th and tomcrrow a cost-of-living increase goes into effect, if we approve these todayr do these individuals get a pay raise immedlately? They get appointed today and they get a pay raise tomorrcw. Ts that correct?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Dunn.
Whatever the 1aw allows is correct.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Welch.
That doesn 't answer my question. Do they get -- do they get appointed tonight and do they get a pay raise within the next six hours if we approve this tonight? That's my questlon.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Dunn.
Thank you. Senator Welchr these people have already been serving in their capacities. We have just concurred with the 61 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30# 1994 I Governor's appointments. So some of them have been working for at least a long whilez a11 of them since May the 4th: because this is 1 ; a Message of that date. So I think it's kind of a moot question. Thank you. j
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any further discussion? If not, the questicn isr does the Senate advise and consent to the nominations just made. Those in ! favor will vote Aye. OpposedwillvoteNay. Andthevoting is 1 open. Have al1 voted Who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11votedwhogish? Taketherecord. Onthatquestion,thereare j 57 Ayesr no Nays, none voting Present. A majority of the Senators elected concurring by record vote, the Senate does advise and consent to the nominations just made. Senator Dunn.
Thank you, Mr. President. With respect to the Governor's I Message of May the 4thy 1'11 read the unsalaried appointments to which the Senate Commlttee on State Government Operatlons and Executlve Appointments recommends the Senate do advise and consent: To be a member of the State Banking Board of Illinois for a term ending December 31st, 1995, Bernard Chauvel of Chicago . To be a member of the Children and Family Services Advisory Council for a term ending January 16th, 1995, James Gordon of Mount Vernon. To be members of the Children and Famtly Servtces Advlsory Council for terms ending January 20th, 1997: Howard Lee of Chicago; Timothy McDonald of Burr Ridge. To be Chairman of the Economic Development Board for a term ending November the 1st, 1994, Samuel Skinner of Chicago. To be a member of the Illinois Fiduciary Adviscry Committee for a term ending January the 1st, 1995, C. Matthew Smith of Jacksonville. i I 62 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 To be members of the Illlnois Fiduciary Advisory Committee for I terms ending January 1st, 1996, iatherine Blumenthal of Chicago; Glen Wilson of Rockford. To be members of the Illinois Fiduciary Advisory Ccmmittee for i - I terms ending January 1st, 1997: Judith Macior of Chicago; Dale : Sielaff of Peoria. To be a member af the Illinois -- or, the Havana Regional Port Distrlct Board for a term ending June the 30th, 1996, Murray Kent Johnscn of Havana. To be members of the Board of Trustees of the Historic Preservation Agency for terms ending January 15th, 1996, Julia <sic> (Ju1ie) Cellini af Sprtngfield; Pamela Daniels of Elmhurst; Sally Schanbacher of Springfteld. To be a member of the Illinols Job Training Coordinatinq Council for terms ending -- for a term ending July the 1st, 1995, David Carter of Fairfield . To be members of the Illinois Job Tralning Coordinating Council for terms ending July 1st, 1996: Brian Duffy of Springfield; John Foster-Bey of Chlcago; Jose Rodriguez of Chicago; James Schultz of Wilmette. To be members of the Joliet Regional Port District Board for a term ending June the 1st, 1997, Ronald Kevish of Crest Hil1. To be a member of the Kaskaskia Regional Port Dtstrlct for a ' ternendlngJunethe30th,1996,JamesWesbecherofEvansville. j Tobeamember of the Labor Management Cooperative <sic> j (Cooperation) Committee for a term endingJuly the1st,1995, 1 DanielFinkeofHerrin. 1 TobemembersoftheStateMandatesBoardofReviewfor terms 1 @ ending June the 30th, 1995, John Janicik cf Clarendon Hills; Carol , Sexton of Chicago. i I To be a member of the Illinois State Medical Disciplinary i I Board for a tern endtng January 11th, 1996, Otto Brosius cf i 63 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 I Decatur. I To be a member of the Illinois State Medical Disciplinary Board, effective June 1, 1994, for a term ending January l1, 1998, Lacy Cook of Oswego. To be members.of the Illinols State Medical Disciplinary Board for terms ending January 11th, 1998, Eloy Moscoso of Oak Brook; ' Vlrgll Wikoff of Champaign. To be members of the Surface Mining Advisory Council for a term ending August the lothy 1995, KirWan Heisner of Pinckneyville. To be members of the Surface Mining Advisory Board <sic> (Council) for terms ending August the 10th, 1996, Douglas Brockhaus of Carlinville and Cassandra Rodgers af Dixon. To be a member of the Illinols State Police Merit Board for a term ending March the 20th, year 2000, Arthur Smith of Glencoe. To be members of the Prairie State Fund Board of Directcrs <sic> for a term ending July lst, 1995, Steven Amundsen of Gurnee. To be a member of the Prairie State 2000 Fund Board of Directors for a term endinç July lstr 1996, Charles Smead of Chicago. To be a member of the Prairie State 2000 Pund Board of Directors for a term ending July the 1st, 1997, Rhonda Kodjayan of Chicago . To be Public Administrator and Public Guardian of Warren County for a term ending December the 1st, 1996, Raymond Cavanaugh of Monmouth. To be a Public Admtnistrator and Public Guardtan of Johnson County for a term ending December the 1st, 1996, William Elliott of Vienna. To be the Publlc Admtnistrator and Public Guardian for Pike County for a term ending December the 1st, 1997, John Borrowman of Pittsfield. 1 I 64 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Leglslative Day June 30, 1994 To be the Public Administrator and Public Guardian of Jasper County for a term ending Decenber lstr 1997: Patricia Burtch of Willow Hi11. To be the Public Adninistrator and Public Guardian of Effingham County for a term ending December 1, 1997, K. 2lck Keller of Effingham. To be the Public Administrator and Public Guardian cf Carroll County for a term ending December lsty 1997, John Lecomte of Savanna. To be members of the Advisory Council on Spinal Cord and Head Injuries for terms to be drawn by lots, Madelynne Brown -- Madelynne Brown, non-salaried; Tom Corpora cf Carbondale; Deborah Oughtcn of Springfield. To be a member of the Workers Compensatkon Advisory Board <sicl (Cauncil) for a term ending February 1st, 1998, Jay Dee Shattuck of Sprtngfield. To be the Public Administratcr and Public Guardian of Hardln County for a term ending December the 1st, 1997, Carman Littrell of Rosiclare. To be the Public Admlnistrator and Public Guardian of Rock Island County for a term ending December the lsty 1996, H . Ross <sic> (Moss) Meersman -- Meersman of Moltne. To be the Public Administrator and Public Guardian of Richland County for a term ending December the 1st, 1997, Jerry Miller of Olney. To be the Public Adninistrator and Public Guardian of Moultrie County for a term endinq December the 1st, 1997, Joseph Walker of Sullivan. To be the Public Administrator and Public Guardian of Vermilllon County for a term ending December the 1st: 1997, George Weller of Danville. To be the Public Guardian of Lasalle Ccunty for a term ending 65 STATE OE ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 December the 1st, 1997, Wayne Whitmore of Mendota. To be a member of the Quad Cities Regional Economic Development Authority for a term ending January 20th, 1997, Debra Toppert cf I Cordova. To be a member of the Southgest <sic> (Southwestern) Illinois Development Authority for a term ending January the 16th, 1995, John Fruit of Edwardsville. To be members of the Southwest Ksic> (Southwesbern) Illinois Development Authority for terms ending January the 20th, 1997, Theodore Prehn of Bethalto; Terry Schaefer of Belleville. Mr. Presidentr having read the unsalaried appointments, I now seek leave to consider these appolntments on one roll call, unless some Senator has an cbjecticn to these appointments. Mr. President, will you put the question as required by our rules? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) ' Is there any discussion? If not, the question is, does the ' Senate advise and consent to the nominations just made. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted Who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, *he Ayes are 54, no Nays, none vcting Present. And a majority of Senators elected concurring by record vote, the Senate does advise and consent to the nomknations just made. Committee Reports.
Senator Ralph Dunn, Chair of the Committee on State Government Operations and Executive Appointments, to Which was referred the Governor's Message of June 22nd, 1994, reported the same back with the recommendation that the Senate advise and consent to the i following appointments. FRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) : Senator Dunn.
I 66 STATE OF ILLTNOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 Thank you, Mr. President. I realize this is not very entertaining, but I wish the people in front of me Wculd show some order, please. Thank you, Mr. President. With respect to the Gcvernor's Message of June the 22nd, 1994, 1411 read the salaried appoi.ntments to which the Senate Committee on State Government Operaticns and Executive Appointments recommend that the Senate do advise and consent: To be the Director of the Department of Alcoholism and Substance Abuse for a term ending January 16th# 1995, Barbara Cimagllo of Chicago. %o be the Director of the Department of Children and Panily Services for a term ending January l6thz 1995, Jesse McDonald cf Sprtngfield. To be a Judge of the Court of Claims for a term endlng January 20th: 1997, David Epstein of Chlcago. To be a member of the Illinois Human Rights Commission for a term ending January 16th, 1995, Isiah Thomas of Calumet Park. To be a member of the Illinois International Port District Board for a term ending June the 1st, 1999, John Serpico of Lincolnwood. To be a member of the Illinois State Labor Relations Board for a term endtng January 23rd, 1995, Rabert Healey of Homewood . Mr. President, having read the salaried appointments, ncw seek leave to conslder these appcintments on one roll call, unless some Senator has an objection to the appointments. Mr. President, Will you put the question as required by our rules?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? If not, the question isr does the Senate advise and consent to the nominations just nade. Those favor will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have voted whc wish? Have a1l voted uho wish? Take the record. On that questicn, the Ayes 67 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day ' June 30r 1994 E are 58, none voting Nay, none voting Present. And a majority of Senators elected concurring by record vote, the Senate does advise and consent to the nominations just made. Illinois LaNmakers requests permissicn to photcgraph the proceedings. Hearing no objection, leave ts granted. Senator Dunn.
Thank you, Mr. President. With respect to the Governor's i Message of June the 22nd, 1994, I wl11 ask Senator Vice Chairman I ! Rauschenberger to read the unsalaried appolntments to which the j ! Senate Committee on State Government Operations and Executive . i Appointments recommend the Senate do advise and consent. 1'11 ! turn it over to Senator Rauschenberger. l i PRESIDING OFFICER I : (SENATOR DUDYCZ) 1 Senator Rauschenberger.
To be a member of the -- the Board of Agricultural Advisors for a term ending January 16th, 1995, Larry Skinner of Npwman; sponsor, Senator Woodyard. To be a member cf the State Banking Board cf Illinois for a term ending December 31st, 1997, Charles Waterman of Frankfort. To be a member of the East St. Louis Financial Advisory Authority for a term ending August 30thy 1995, James Mtles of Chicago. To be a member of the State Board of Education for a term ending January 16th, 1995, Lecnard Marshall of Peorla. To be a nember of the State Board of Educatlon fcr a term ending January 20th, 1997: Gretchen McDowell of Chicago. To be a member of the State Board of Educatlon for a term endlng January 18th, 1999, Lyle Neumann of Sherman. To be a member of the Electronic Fund Transfer Advisory ; Committee for a term ending December 3lstz 1997, Dane Cleven cf . Glenview. 68 STATE OP ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30: 1994 1 To be members of the Illinois Farm Development Authority Board j for terms ending January 16th, 1995, Bernard Donovan, Jr., of I Decatur; Robert Nickel of Concord. To be a nember of the Illinois Farm Development Authority . Board for a term ending January 15th, 1996, Gary Luth of Allerton. To be a member of the Illinois Farm Development Authority Board for a term ending January 20th, 1997, Carolyn Stone of Springfield. To be members of the Illinois Farm Development Authority Board for terms ending January 19th, 1998, Curtis Faber of Mendota, and 1. Leonard Gardner of Bloomington. To be a member of the Illinois Gamlng Board for a term ending January <sic> (Ju1y) 1st, 1997: Gayl Pyatt of Pinckneyville. To be members of the Illinois Hea1th Care Cost Cantainment Council for terms ending September 5th, 1996, Robert Burger of Wilmette; Frank Gramm of Libertyville; Lenore Janecek of Lincolnwood; Larry Lawler of Decatur; Jchanna Lund cf Rockford; Kenneth Morrissey of Naperville. To be a member of the Illinois Health Facilities Authcrity for a term ending June 30th, 1995, Roger Herrin of Harrisburg. To be a member of the Illinois -- tc be a member of the Hea1th Facilities Plannlng Board fcr a term ending June 30th, 1995, Fred Benjamin of Glencoe. To be a member of the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Board for a term ending June 30th, 1997, Louis Libert of Naperville . To be a member of the Illinois Healkh Facilities Planning Board for -- with an effectlve date of July 1st, 1994, for a tern ending June 30th, 1997, Pamela Melasky of Carbondale. To be a member of the Illincis Housing Developnent Authority for a term ending January 9th, 1995, Nick Striglos of Decatur. To be members of the Illinols Hea1th -- the Illinois 69 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislattve Day June 30, 1994 Comprehensive Hea1th Insurance Plan Board for terms ending July 1 1st, 1997, Robert Adler of Chicaço; Sharon Heaton of Graymont; Richard Kotz of Glencoe; Saul Morse of Springfield; Rabert Schaaf of Springfield. . To be members of the Illinois Job Training Coordinating Council for terms ending July 1st, 1996, Glenda Arnett of Godfrey; Shirley Brussell of Chicago; John Hudson of Springfield; Jeffrey Isaacson of Hoffman Estates; Mary Koenig of Chlcago; Robert Luther of Charleston; Charles Porter of Chicago; Pamela Schwartz of Olney; Jan Staggs of Springfield. To be members of the Kaskaskia Regional Port District Board for terms ending June 30th, 1997, Edwin Cockrell of New Athens; Robert Keller of Waterloo; Norman Rieso of Freeburg; Clyde Nrexker of Columbia. To be a menber of the Lottery Control Board for a term ending July 1st, 1996, Isobel Neal of Chicago . To be a member of the -- of the Medical Licenslng Board for a term ending January 8th, 1998, barry Patton of Morton. To be members of the Mount Carmel Reglonal Port District Board for terms ending June 30th, 1997, Charles Boss of Mount Carmel; Larry Hodgson of Mount Carmel; Gordon Kirkman of Mount Carmel; Kenneth Saxe of Mount Carmel. To be a member of the Prairie State 2000 Fund Board of Directors for a term ending July 1st, 1995: Steven Amundsen of Gurnee. 1 To be a member of the Prairie State 2000FundBoardof Directors for a term ending July 1st, 1996, Charles Smead of 1 Chicago. To be a member of the Prairie State 2000 Fund Bcard of Directors for a term ending July 1st, 1997, Rhonda Kodjayan of Chicago. To be Public Adninistrator and Publlc Guardian cf McDonough I I 70 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Leglslative Day June 30, 1994 County for a term ending December 5thz 1994, William Chadderdon of Bushnell. To be Public Administrator and Public Guardian of 3ond Ccunty fcr a term ending December 5th# 1994, Chester York of Greenville. To be Public Administrator and Public Guardian of Boone County for a term ending December lstz 1997: Bernard Bahling of Belvidere. To be Public Administrator and Public Guardian of Morgan County for a tern ending December 1st, 1997, Eddie Carpenter of Jacksonvllle. To be Public Administrator and Publlc Guardian Tazewell County for a term ending December 1st, 1997: Timothy Church of East Peoria. To be Public Administratcr and Public Guardian of Piatt County for a term endlng December lsk, 1997, Kelly Finet of Monticello . To be Public Administrator and Public Guardlan for Lee County for a term endlng December 1st, 1997, Lucille Henning of Dixon. To be Public Administrator and Public Guardian of Cass County for a term ending December 1st, 1997, Ross Houston of Arenzvllle. To be Public Administrator and Public Guardian of Monroe County for a term ending December 1st, 1997, John Huetsch af Waterloo. To be Public Administrator and Publlc Guardian of Douglas County for a term ending December 1st, 1997, Betty Jones of Arthur. To be Public Adninistrator and Public Guardian of Wabash Counky for a term ending December lsts 1997, Terry Kaid of Mount Carmel. To be Public Administrator and Publlc Guardian of Washington County for a term ending December 1st, 1997, Edward Kemper cf Nashville. To be Publlc Administrator and Public Guardlan of Marshall STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 County for a term ending December 1st, 1997, Donald Knuckey of Lacon. To be Public Administrator and Pubkic Guardian of Stark County for a term ending December 1st, 1997, John Leezer of Toulon. To be Public Administrator of Lasalle County for a term ending December lsty 1997, Robert Shafer of Mendota. To be members of the Illinois Racing Board for terms ending July 1st, the year 2000, Ralph Gonzalez of Jacksonville; Joseph Kindlon of Wheaton; Lorna Propes of Evanston. To be a member of the Rehabilitation Service Advisory Council for a term ending July lstr 1996, William Jones of Geneseo. To be members of the Southwest Regional Port District Board for terms ending June 30th, 1995, Joseph -- Joseph Mccaskilk of East St. Louis; Victor Wfcks of Edgemont. To be a member of the Southwest Regional Port Distrlct Board for a term ending June 30th, 1996, Harry Wilson of Centreville. To be a member of the Southwest Regional Port District Board for a term ending June 30th, 1997, Vernon Dennis of Fairview Heiqhts. To be members of the Advisory Council on Spinal Cord and Head Injuries for terms to be drawn by lot, James Kelly of Flossmoor; Patricia Law of Chatham . To be members of the Illinois Sports Facilities Authority for terms ending June 30th, 1997, Joel Herter of Elmhurst; Alexander Lerner of Glencoe. Mr. President, havin: read the unsalaried appointments, I noN seek leave to cansider these appolntments on a roll call. And, Mr. President, will you put the question as required by our rules?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) WAND-TV requests pernission to videotape the proceedings. Hearing no objection, leave is granted. Any discussion? The question is, does the Senate advise and consent to the nominations 72 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30: 1994 i just made. Those in favorr vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted Who i wish? Have all voted uho Wish? Take the record. On that I question, there are 58 Ayes, no Naysr none voting Present. And a majority of Senators elected concurring by record vote, the Senate I does advise and consent to the nominations just made. Senator ; Dunn. Senator Ralph Dunn.
Thank you, sir. I move that the Senate noW arise from Executive Session.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) You have heard the motion. Those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The motion carries. Messages from the Hcuse.
A Message frcm the House by Mr. Rossi, Clerk. Mr. President - I am directed to lnform the Senate that the House of Representatives has concurred With the Senate in the passage of a b111 of the following title, to wit: Senate Bill 948, wlth House Amendments l and 3. Passed the House, as amended, June 30th, 1994. We have a like Message on Senate Bill 542, together with House Amendment 3.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) If the Members w111 look on their desks, you Will find Supplemental Calendar No. ly which has been distributed. We Will be noW going to that order of business. We Will begin on Secretary's Desk, Concurrence, Senate Bills. On page 2 of the Supplemental Calendar No. l is the Order of Concurrence. Senate Bill481. MadamSecretaryyreadthebill. 1
I nove to concur with the House in the adoption of their Amendments 1 and 4 to Senate Bill 481. I I 73 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Leglslative Day June 30, 1994 Filed by Senator Butler. I i
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Butler.
Thank your Mr. President. I move that we concur With House Amendments 1 and 4 to Senate Bill 481. This is a matter that was agreed to by business and labor working togethery and it Was also working with the Department of Employment Securtty. They are primarily technical chanqesr and I would ask for your favarable vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any discussion? Senator Stern.
Will the Gentleman yield?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Sponsor indicates he will yield. Senator Stern.
I am rushing to read what this bill is about, Senator. Does -- does it have to -- anythlng to do with unemployment security belng -- the suspension of removing unemplcyment security costs from the salaries of summer camp counselors who can't collect it anyway?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Butler.
No, Senatcr, that was in the original bill, and it wag yanked off by Amendment No. 1.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Stern.
That's too bad. I'm sorry it's gone. I thought that was important language. ! I 74 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) I i Any further discussion? This is final actionr Ladies and I Gentlemen. If not, Senator Butler, to close.
I -- I agree with Senator Stern. I ask for a favorable vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) The question is, shall the Senate concur in House Amendments No. l and 4 to Senate 3i1l 481. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have a1l voted who Wlsh? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 57 Ayes, nc Nays, none voting Present. And the Senate does concur in House Amendments No. 1 and 4 to Senate Bl11 481, and the bill, having recelved the required constitutional majorlty: is declared passed. WCIA-TV requests permission to videotape the proceedlngs. Hearing no objecticn, leave ls granted. On the Order of Secretary's Desk, Concurrencer Senate Billsr Senate Bill 776. Senator Donahue. Madam Secretary .
I nove to non-concur with the House in the adoption of their Amendments 1 and 2 to Senate 3i1l 776. Filed by Senator Donahûe.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Donahue. SENATOR DONAHUEI Well, thank youv Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is a very old bill, as you can tell by (ts number, and I would just like to move to non-concur in House Amendments No. 1 and 2 to Senate Bill 776.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any discusslon? If not, Senator Donahue moves to non-concur in House Amendments No. l and 2 to Senate 3i11 776. A11 those in 1 75 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Leglslative Day June 30, 1994 favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. And the motion carries, and the Secretary sball so inform the House. On the Order of Supplemental Calendar No . 1, Secretary 's Desk, Concurrences we have Senate Bill 1832. Senator Watson. Madam Secretary. . I ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER: I I move to concur wlth the House in the adoption of their Amendments 1, 3, 5 and 7 to Senate Bill 1832. 1 Filed by Senator Watson.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Watson.
Yes. Thank -- thank you -- thank you, Mr. President. As this bill left the House, it was the Lieutenant Governor's Office of Voluntary Actlon and Advisory Council. We have changed that title to the Commission on Community Servicesr and the reason for that is to try to take advantage of a program being initiated by President Cllntonr called the National Community Service Trust Fund Act of 1993. In September of this yearr some dollars will be made avatlable to the states. We will have an opportunity to capture about three million dollars in federal funds. The House Amendments l through -- 1, 3, 5 and 7, of Which I move to concur, simply change the language by which the appolntments will be made. The Governor will appoint twenty-five bipartisan votlng members and fifteen biparbisan nonvoting members, of which twenty-five percent of the total membership Will come from the City of Chicago.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? Senator Cullerton.
Yes. Would the sponsor yleld?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) 76 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Leglslative Day June 30, 1994 Sponsor indicates he will yield. Senator Cullerton. I SENATOR CULLERTON: 1 Right now this is called the LLeutenant Governor's Office of VoluntaryActlcnAct--VoluntaryAction. Isthat correct? Rnd noW it's going to be called the Commission on Community Servlce . . 1 ' ' I guess the question is: Does the new Commisslon have any ' appointments by the -- or, is the Lieutenant Governor a member of the new Commission?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senatcr Watson.
I understand that the Lieutenant Governor (s the Cbairman: and then a1l the members will be appointed by the -- the Governor in the manner in Whlch I explained.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Cullerton.
And what is the effective date of this bill?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Watson.
Yes. The Lieutenant Governor has asked that thls go to conference, and one of the reasons was to put an immediate effective date ln it.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Cullerton.
So this bill is going togotoconferencecommitteeafter this, you expect. Is there some possibility that We might be abke 1 to possibly eliminate the Lieutenant Governor's Office with this conference committee? l PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) I 77 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Leglslative Day June 30, 1994 Senator Watson. SENATOR WATSON: i Well, you know how conference commlttees are, Senator. We can dojustmostanything. There'sbeensomesuggestions,asamatter 1 of fact, to that. But, no, I doubt if that will be an initiat.ive that Will be a part of this bill.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any further discussion? Senator Welch.
Yes. A question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Sponsor lndicates he wil1 yield. Senator Welch.
Senator Watson, did you say that the President is providing three miklion dollars for this new voluntary action committee? Is that what you said?
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Watson.
It's a federal program being initiated by President Clinton.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Welch.
Well, I'm glad to see youlre standing behind your President, Senator Watson. I think President Clinton is showing that he's doing a good job. He's sending money back here to Illinois, which is just what we want. I think that's a great idea.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any other discussion? If not, Senator Watson moves to concur in House Amendments No. lr 3, 5 and 7 to Senate Bill 1832. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have a1l voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who 78 I STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT ! 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 wish? Have a11 voted gho wish? Take the record . On that 1 questiony there are 57 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. And I the Senate does concur in House Amendments No. 1, 3, 5 and 7 to Senate Bill No. 1832. Senator Watson. ' . SENATOR WATSON: Yes. Thank ycu, Mr. President. Now I wish to non-concur in House Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bl1l 1832, to make some minor adjustments in a conference committee. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Watson moves to ncn-concur in House Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 1832. Is there any discussion? Senator Palmer. SENATOR PALMERS Thank you, Mr. President. A question of the sponsor. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Sponsor indicates he will yield. Senator Palmer. SENATOR PALMER : Senator Watson, why are you non-concurring on this? I'm just curious. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Watson. SENATOR WATSON: Some of the language that's in Amendment No . 2 has already gone to the Governorr for one thing. Some of the language in it we will concur with. There 's several things in there. The CMS - Central Management Service - language. Some of the language coming fram the Citizens' Council on Women's Issues. Those will be, hopefully, reinstated into *he -- into the bill and into the conference committee. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Palmer. SENATOR PALMER: Thisamendmentcrea*estheWomen'sBusinessOwnershipAct and j 79 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138*h Legislatfve Day June 30, 1994 ' I redoes the title of Minority and Female Business Enterprise Act and so forth. Now by rejecting this amendmentr are you suggesting that this will not go forward?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) SQZ26OV WZVSOZ. '
No -- no, not at all. What wefre doing is non-concurring with this to get it into conferencer to make some changes that the Lieutenant Governor has asked. And -- the provisions that you just mentloned there would be a part of our final report.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any further discussion? If not: Senator Watson moves to non-concur in House Amendment No . 2 to Senate Bill 1832. A1t those in favor, say Aye. Oppased, Nay. The Ayes have it. And the motion carries: and the Secretary shall so infcrm the House. We Will now go -- Senator Snith, for what purpose do you rise?
I'd llke to get a roll call vote on that ncn-concurrence: because I -- I -- may I say this to you: I -- I -- I want to see somethingy Senator Watson, that's really -- you say that they are not going to bother this. This is a good bill here -- amendmentr for the women, and you just slide -- slid that byr ycu kncwr for the non-concurrence and let it go by. But I think we should have a roll call on that.
PRESIDTNG OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Smith, We -- we are through with that order of bustness. We are now on House Bill 3197. We 're on Conference Committee Reports. You didn't have your light on# Senator. On the bottom of -- on the bottom of page 2 of Supplemental Calendar No . 1 is the Order of Conference Committee Reports. Madam Secretary, do you have a file on Conference Committee Report on House Bill 31977 : I 80 STATE OP ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION ' SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th tegislatlve Day June 30, 1994
First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3197. I
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Hawkinson. SENATOR HAWKINSON: . Thank your Mr. President. I move that the Senate approve the Conference Commlttee Report to House B111 3197. It does three thlngs. Originally, the bill, as it came to us from the. House, created a special license plate category for honorably discharged veterans. That provision is out of the bill. The bill now establishes a special license plate category fcr recipients of the Bronze Star. It changes the 1aw in regard to solicitation of contributions along a roadway in the following respects: It can stlll be done by municipal ordinance, but the munlcipal ordinance now shall provide where and under what circumstances the solicitation can take place, and it should take into account the orderly flow of trafflc. And finally, it -- it gives a six-month delay to a bill passed last year in the form of House B(l1 1792. That bill set up a permit systen When farm equipment more than twelve feet wide ës being transported from a retail farm equipment dealer. We need this delay in order to work out a problem ereated by the btll. I don't believe this blll has any opposition, and at the approprtate timey after questions, I would move for the adoptton of Conference Committee Report No. l tc House Bill 3197.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? If notr the question is, shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report No. l on House Bill 3197. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed Will vote Nay. And the votin: is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted Who wish? Take the record. 0n that question, the Ayes are 57r no -- none voting Nay, none voting Present. And the Senate does adopt the Conference Committee 1 81 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 I I Report on House Bill 3197: and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Conference Committee Report No. l to Senate Bl11 398. Madam Secretary, do you have a file on Conference Committee Report No. 1 to Senate Bill 398? .
First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 398.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Madigan.
Thank ycu, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Conference Committee Report No. l to Senate Bill 398 represents the agreed language between the Illincis Hospital Assoeiation and the Illinois State Medical Society regarding declsions by hospitals concernlng the nedical staff privileges or credentlaling. I want to point out that county hospltals are exempted from thls agreementy and it clarlfles that nothlng limits a hospltal's right to summarily suspendr if contlnued practlce presents an immediate danger to the public. Again, this is agreed language by the two affecked groups. I would be glad to answer any questions, and otherwise would ask for its adoption.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? Senator Stern.
Will the Gentleman yield?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Sponsor indicates he will yield. Senator Stern.
Since this is referred to as a sexually transmitted disease something or anotherr is there anything in there other than economic credentialing?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) 82 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 Senator Madigan.
Thank you, Mr. Presldent. Senator Stern, the conference committee report beccmes the billr and there is nothing else other than the credentialing language.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDXCZ) Senator Stern.
Is that What always happens in conference committees the substance disappears down the drain?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Madigan.
No . No, onky sometimes.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any further discussion? Senator Hawkinson.
Thank you, Mr. President. Will the sponsor yield for a question?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Spcnsor indicates he Will yield. Senator Hawkinson.
Senator, my questlon really is prospective. There's a great deal of debate going on about the Medicaid managed care proposal that we may or may not receive, and one of the more controversial provisions of that proposal deals With an Hany willing provider'' provision which some HMOs and hospktals feel may affect their right to credential physlcians, because it may require that they accept any -- any physiclan to staff. Does this agreed language in any way contemplate l'any willing provider'' language which nay or may not be in the -- the managed care proposal?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) 83 i STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 Senator Madlgan.
Thank you, Mr. President. Senator Hawkinsony I donlt believe this addresses the managed care language at all.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDXCZ) Any further discussion? If not, the questlon is, shall Senate -- shall the Senate adopt Conference Committee Report No. l to Senate Bill 398. Those in favor will vote Aye. Oppcsed Will vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 57, no Naysy 1 voting Present. And the Senate does adopt Conference Committee Report No. l on Senate Bill 398, and the bill, having received the required constitutional najority, is declared passed.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Lauzen, for what purpose do you rlse?
Thank you -- thank you, Madam. I'd like to change my last vote on the on that bill to a Yes.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) The record will so reflect. Senator Klemm, on Senate Bill 1191. Read the -- read the bill, Madam Secretary. No. Do you have on file a Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1191?
First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1191.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Klemm .
Well, thank you, Madam President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I move that we adopt Conference Committee Report No. l on Senate Bill 1191. What the conference commlttee report does is it recommends that we recede -- the House recedes from House 84 I STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 Amendment No. l and that We amend House Amendment No. l to include some provisions that we wanted to -- add Cook County to a provision of conservation rights. What we're trying to do is allow a reductton tn taxes for those that have put in property for conservation rights for the public benefit. And .we reduce the amount by twenty to twenty-five percent in counties that do classlficationy whlch ls Cook Countyy and we reduce the assessment from thirty-three-and-a-third to elght-and-one-third percent for those parcels that are put in perpetuity ln these easements. This is an attempt and an approach that has reached unanimous consent in allowing us to acquire some open space lands in our local governments, and yet give some tax relief for those that are going to be used for those purposes. It does have some safeguards - that the public benefît has six dlfferent criterlas that may meet in order to qualify - any of those six. The Department of Conservation is the one that makes the determination, and think it has reached the point where we've answered a11 the concerns of b0th the environmentallsts, the retailers and everyone else. So I do ask for your adoption and concurrence to Conference Committee Repart 1.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any dlscussion? Senator Palmer.
Thank your Madam Presldent. I just wanted to say that I support thLs bill. It Went through several lives before we all agreed to but I think the two parts of are importank and should be supported - the Motorola and also the open land Section. And I am pleased to support
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any further discussion? Any further discussion? Senator Klemm, to close. Okay. The question shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1191. Those 85 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have I a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record . On that questionr there are 58 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. The Senate does adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1191, and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Madam Secretary, do you have on file a Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 12677
Yes. First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1267.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Woodyard.
Thank you, Madam President and Members of the Senate. Senate Bill 1267 and the ccnference committee report on that contalns three or four provisions. As the b11l left the Senate and as We got the bill back, the underlying part of that dealt with a check-off referendum requested by the Illinois Beef Council and the Lamb and Wool Association. That language is still in the bill. We also concurred with a House Amendment No. 4 that dealt with language an leasing and bartering for the Illinois State Fair. That language is still in the canference committee report, and it's my understanding, the State Fair does need that language - certainly before the Illinois State Fair starts. The other provisions that were added in the conference committee report were -- some of these Were contained in Amendment No. 1. Part of that deals With the Illinois Farm Development Au*horlky, and tha*'s primarily just clean-up language for that Authority. The other provislon is the result of an agreement between the Illinols EPA, Department of Agriculture and the Illinois Fertilizer-chemical Association, dealing with potable water wells within certain setback lines within those chemical fertilizer dealer plants. And 86 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30r 1994 i although theEnvironmentalCouncildidexpress someconcern about 1 that language, they did not register cpposlticn to it: and at this time, I know of no oppcnents to this conference committee report and ask for a favorable vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any further discussion? Any discussicn? Seeing none, the question is, shall the Senate adopt Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1267. Those in favor wl1l vote Aye. Oppcsed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who Wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 58 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. The Senate does adcpt the Conference Committee Report cn Senate Bill 1267, and the billr having recelved the constitutional majority, is declared passed. Committee Reports.
Senator Weaver, Chalrman of the Committee on Rules, reports that the following Legislative Measures have been assigned to committees: Senate Amendment Nc. 1 to House Bill 12 and Senate Amendment No. 2 to House Blll 1882 referred to Appropriations Committee; Senate Joint Resolutlon 182 re-referred from Executlve Committee to Rules Committee; Conference Committee Report No. 1 to House Bill 602 referred to Insurance, Pensions and Licensed Activities Committee; Conference Committee Report No. 1 to Senate Bill 1726 referred to State Gcvernment Operaticns and Executive Appointments Committee; and Senate Jolnt Resolution l82 Se Approved for Consideration.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Resolutions.
Senate Resolution 1699, ofcered by Senator Shaw. Senate Resolution 1700 and Senate Resolutian 1701, a11 offered by Senator Shaw. I I 87 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 I They are all congratulatory. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) j I Consent Calendar.
And Senate Joint Resolution 182, offered by Senators Watson, Karpiel, Welch and Palmer. It is substantive.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Maitland, for what purpose do you seek recognition?
Thank you very much, Madam President and Members of the Senate. Pursuant to -- to our Senate Rules, and with respect to the amendments just read into the reccrd, I'm -- I'm hereby announcing that -- that Senate Amendment No. l to -- to Eouse Bill 12 and Senate Amendment No. 2 to House Bill 1882 will be posted for public.hearing at 8:15. The -- the hearing on the substantive natter wi.th respect to -- to thcse two bills will begin as announced earlierr at 7:30 in Room 212.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senakor Demuzio: for what purpose do you rise?
If I could ask the Senator for clarification. Senator Maitlandy you indicated two times, one 7:30 and one at 8:15. Maybe we a11 heard it wrong . What -- what time is the hearing?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Maitland.
Senator Demuzio, I thought I mentioned that, but perhaps I didnft. The hearing will convene at 7:30 in Room 212.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Demuzio.
88 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 ' I What happens at 8:157 You mentioned that one too... 1 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) I Senator Maitland. I i I SENATOR MAITLAND: ' . Well - oh, thank you. Xes, I did mention that. The two amendments that Will be hopefully adopted to those two bills will be posted for hearing pursuant to our rules at -- and will be heard at 8:15.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) On Supplemental Calendar No. 1 is Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1365. Madam Secretary, do you have cne on file for Senate 3i11 13657
Yes. First Ccnference Commkttee Report on Senate Bill 1365.
PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Maitland -- or, excuse me. Senator DeAngelis. Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: I am so grieved . I think I am unable to speak. Thank you, Madan Chairman. Senate Bill 1365 was and still is a Revenue Committee bill. The bill went over to the Houser as an agreed bill from here. The House put on several amendments. As a conference committee report, the amendments that we did not agree with were taken off, and one amendment was added on, and that amendment is the one that extends the allowable inventory period for aircraft and watercraft from twelve months to eighteen months. We have had a consensus on our committee on this. I wculd be -- urge the adoption of this conference committee report; howeverr if there are any questions, 1'11 be happy to answer them.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any discussion? Senator Berman.
89 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY i REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 Thank you, Madam President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the i Senate. I want to compliment Senator DeAngelis and Senator O'Malley and the other Members of the Senate Revenue Committee, our Minority Leader, Senator Palmer. And: Ladies and Gentlemen, I ' let me just point out to you that one of the elements in this bill is something that we have a11 been hit cver the head with, and here is our response. It is what we call the anti-shell game bill, and what this does ls to, for the first time in many years - ever since the passage of the Lottery and riverboat gambling and the income tax surcharge - this sets up a process Where the funds from those monies will, in factr add - add - to the funding for education. It won't be substituted by -- by 1t. It Won't be in one pocket and out the other. We hope that this sets a precedent that we can follow, for many years to come, for increasing education funding, as we have all been questioned about. And I want to compliment a11 of the Members of the committeer and solicit ycur Aye vote cn this very, very important bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Eurther discussion? Senator Palmer.
Thank you, Madam President. I tao wanted to thank the comnittee and commend a1l of us for the work done. If you just look at the proponents for this bill, you Will see the encrmous amount of work done to get the Taxpayers' Federation, three unions and a number of educatton organizations, as well as lllinois business people, on board for thls. That's just one indication of What was done. And Nhen you have time, I suggest that you take a look at our report: The Illinois Tax System. I'm hoping that this is the beginning of a process, and I thank the committee again. END OF TAPE I I 90 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 TAPE 3
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further dtscusston? Senator DeAngelis, to close. SENATOR DeANGELIS; In the spirit of love and cooperation, I urge your Aye vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) The question is, shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1395 -- 65 -- on Senate Bill 1365. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposedy Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Have al1 voted Who Wish? Take the record . On that question, there are 58 Ayes, no Nays and none voting Present. The Senate does adopt the Conference Commlttee Report on Senate Bill 1365, and the bill, having received a -- the constitutlonal najority, is declared passed. Senator Dunnr for what purpose do you rise?
Thank you, Madam President. I$d like to announce - and I hope the Members of the State Local -- State Government and Executive Appointments Committee will listen real closely - we 're going to have one Conrerence Committee Report No. 1 on Senate Bill 1726. We're going to hear this in Roon 400 at 8:20 this evening . Room 400 at 8:20 -- ln Room 400. Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1726. Thank you.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Committee of Local <sic> Government wilk meet kn Room 400 at 8:20. Thank youy Senator Dunn. State Gcvernment, in RooR 400. Senator Madigan, for what purpose do you rise?
Thank you, Madam President. Purpose of an announcement: that at 8:30 or lmmediately following the adjournment of the State 91 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30: 1994 Government Operations and Executive Appolntments Ccmmitteer the Senate Committee on Insurance, Pensions and Licensed Activities will meet Room 400 to consider Conference Commlttee Report No. to House Bill 602.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) .. . lmachine cutoffl.w.could have your attention. The Senate will stand at ease until the eall of the Chair, and we expect that to be around 9 o'clock. Senate stands at ease. (SENATE STANDS AT EASE) (SENATE RECONVENES)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senate Will come to order. Committee Reports.
Senator Maitland: Chair of the Committee on Appropriationsr reports Senate Amendment l to House Bill 12 Be Adopted, and Senate Amendment 2 to House Bill 1882 Be Adop*ed. Senator Madigan, Chair of the Committee on Insurance, Pensions and Licensed Activlties, reports House Bill 602, the First Conference Committee Report Be Approved for Consideration; And Senator Ralph Dunn, Chair of the Committee on State Government Operations and Executive Appointments, reports House Bill 1726, khe First Conference Committee Report Be Approved for Consideration.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Messages from the House.
Message from the House by Mr. Rossi, Clerk. 92 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 I Mr. President - I am directed to inform the Senake that I the Hcuse cf Representatlves has concurred with the Senate in the i passage of a bill of the following title, to git: Senate Bill 487, With House Amendments 1, 2 and 3. Passed the House, as amended, June 30th, 1994. . i We have a like Message cn Senate Bill 493, with House ( Amendments 1 and 4. I
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Resolutions. i
Senate Resolution 1702, offered by Senator Topinka. It's congratulatoryr as is Senate Joint Resolutlon 183: offered bg Senators Berman and Stern. They're both congratulatory, Madam President.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Consent Calendar.
Senate Jcint Resolution 184, offered by Senators Fawell, Weavery Berman and Jacobs. It's substantive.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) We will now proceed to the Order of Resolutlons Consent Calendar. With the leave of the Bodyz all those read in today will be added to the Consent Calendar. Mr. Secretary, have there been any objections filed to any resolution on the Consent Calendar?
No objections have been filed, Madam President.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any discussion? If not, the question is, shall the resolutions on the Consent Calendar be adopted. A11 those in favor, say Aye. Opposedr Nay. The Ayes have it. The motion I 93 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 carriesr and the resolutions are adopted. I will say to a11 those Members that are within hearing of my voice to please ccme to the Floor as soon as possible. Illinois Information Service has request permission to record. ...tmachine cutoffl...now proceed to Supplemental Calendar No. 2. On that Calendar is House Bill 602, on the Order of Conference Committee Reports. Mr. Secretary, do you have on file a Conference Committee Report on House Bill 6027 ...tmachine cutoffle..the record. On the Order of Conference Commlttee Reports on the Calendar Nc. 2 - second Calendar - is Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1726. Mr. Secretary, do you have on file a Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1726?
First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1726.
PRESTDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Geo-Karis.
Madam Fresident and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, Senate Bill 1726 contains -- the conference reportr contains the original bill language, which makes several changes to the Lottery Act, and it was passed 57 to zero from our House. It amends the Nursing Home Grant Assistance Act to require the Department...
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Excuse me, Senator Geo-Karls. Senator Demuzio.
We -- We don't have Conference Committee Report on 1726 on our desk, and -- well, you may have one over there; we don't have one . And secondly, I would like to inquire of the Chair: on page 32 of cur rules, it says no conference committee report may be considered by the Senate unless shall first have been reproduced and distributed on the Members' -- on the desks fcr at least one full Session day. And I'm curious and like to have a 94 STATE OP ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th tegislative Day June 30: 1994 ruling as to whether or not this isr in fact -- what time it was . put on our desk, and if this is a full Session day, and if it's I going to be distributed.
PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Geo-Raris. '
Madan President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, I move to suspend the provisions of Rule 7-l7(d) so that we -- the conference committee report may be heard.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Geo-Karis has moved to suspend 8-4(b). A11 those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have 1t, and the motion is adopted. Rckl call has been requested. Senator Cullerton.
Would the sponsor yield? Senator Geo-Karis, the...
Put me on. Thank you.
.. . the rule that you want to suspend, this is the rule that requires these conference committees be on the desks for one legislative day. Is that correct?
I believe so, sir.
Wekl, that's a new rule that we adopted when we -- a year -- a year and a half ago, and we heard a 1ot of talk about how importank it was to not have to vote on the last day on something that was just dumped on our -- on our desks. So why would you want to suspend the rule?
PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Geo-Karis.
I 95 STATE OF ILLINOIS I 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION ! SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30r 1994 Madam President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, thls conference -- thls bill had been -- the concurrence had been over here quite a While, but anyway, I renew my motion to suspend Rule 7-17(d) so this conference committee report may be heard. PRESTDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) . The motion has already been made, and it has been adopted. To the bill: Senate Bill 1726. Mr. Secretary, is there a Conference ' Report on file on Senate Bill 1726? i
First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1726.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Geo-Karis.
Madam President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, this conference committee has bipartisan support - yes, it does - and it contains the original bilk language, Whëch makes several changes to the Lottery Actr and it Was passed by this Senate by a vote of 57 to zero. It amends the Nurslng Home Grant Assistance Act to require the Department of Revenue to order that payments under the Act be mader subject to appropriation, for grants to persons who were eligible individuals in the fourth quarter of Piscal Year '93 but did not receive a grant for that quarter or the fourth quarter of Fiscal Year '92. This language was cleaned up from an earlier version - agreed language . It renames the Department of Lottery's main office building tn Springfield after the late Representative Zeke Giorgi. It provides for counties over five hundred thousand to use their motor fuel tax fund money to maintain and erect bicycle routes on county and State highways. It provides that bikeways may be constructed on private property with owners' consent for a minimum duration of twenty years, and counties over flve hundred thousand can regulate blkeways and can include railroad or utility corridors. This was formerly House 96 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 Bill 3814, Which had passed the House. This contains provisions of seven House bills - some Republican and scme Democrats. I urge favorable consideration of this conference committee report, and I stand ready to answer any and al1 of your questions.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any discusslon? Senator Cullerton.
Yes. I would just suggest that I was in the middle of a conversatlon, thought, with Senator Geo-Karis, asking questions. There was a request for a roll call on the motkon to suspend the rules. And even though it might be a bipartisan bill, I Would suggest that the Democrats vote Present, in llght cf the method by which we arrived at this debate.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any further discussion? Any further discussion? Seeing none, *he questlon is, shall the Senate adopt Conference Commlttee Report on Senate Bill 1726. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting ts open. Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who Wish? Have al1 voted who Wlsh? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 33 Ayes, Nay, 20 voting Present. The Senate does adopt Conference Commlttee Report on Senate Bill 1726, and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, declared passed. On the Supplemental Calendar No . 1 is House B11l 12. Senator Maitland, do you wish to return that bill to 2nd Reading for the purposes of amendment? Senator Maitland seeks leave of the Body to return House Bill 12 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purposes of an amendment. Hearing no cbjecticn, leave is granted. On the Order of 2nd Reading is House Bill Mr. Secretary: are there any Flocr amendments approved -- consideration?
STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION I SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30: 1994 i I 1 Amendment No. 1, offered by Senator Maitland. i
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Mr . - - Senator Maitland. 1 SENATOR MAITLAND: i Thank you very much, Madam Presidentr Members of the Senate. E Floor Amendment No. 1 to House Bill 12 does contain the entire i State budget. We just dealt with this issue in committee several j minutes ago. It is in the amountof15.5billiondollarsin j General Revenue, 17.7 billion in other funds, for a total of 33.2 billion dollars. I would move for the adoption.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any diseussion? Seeing none, Senator Maitland has moved the adoption of Senate Floor Amendment No. l to House Bill l2. A11 those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it, and the amendment is adopted. Are there any further Floor amendments approved for consideration?
No further amendments reported.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) 3rd 'Reading. Senator Smikh. On page 3 of today's Calendar is Senate -- or# is House Bill 1882. Senator Weavery do you Wish to have that bill returned to 2nd Reading for *he purpose of an amendment? Senator Weaver seeks leave of the Body to return House Bill 1882 to the Order of 2nd Readlng for the purposes of an amendment. Hearing no objectionr leave is granted. On the Order of 2nd Reading is House Bill 1882. Mr. Secretary, are Ehere any Floor amendments approved for consideration?
Amendment No. 2, offered by Senators Weaver and Maltland.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Weaver concedes to Senator Maitland, to explain the amendment. 98 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994
Madam President , I move for the adcption of Floor Amendment i No. 2 to House Bill 1882.
PRESIDINGOPFICER: (SENATORDONAHUE) Is there any discussion? Seeing none, Senator Maitland has 1 moved the adoption of Floor Amendment No. 2 to House Bi1l 1882. A11 those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it, and the amendment is adopted. Are there any further Floor amendments approved for consideration?
No further amendments reported, Madam President.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) 3rd Reading. On Supplemental Calendar No. 1 is House Bill 12, House Bills 3rd Reading. Mr. Secretary, read the bill.
House Bill l2. . (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Maitland.
Thank you very nuch, Madam Presldent, Members of *he Senate. House Bill -- House Bill l2, as amended, agaln, does contain the entire State budget. There really are -- are no secrets in this budget. This is a -- this is a budget that we have debated and discussed several times over the past feW weeks. It isr as I suggested earlier, in the amount of 33.2 billion dollars in the combination of General Revenue funds and -- and -- and other funds. Of particular importance here: It does fund education - elementary, secondary and higher education - at the Governor's original intrcduced level and does meet the -- the needs of the State for the next fiscal year. I Would -- wculd seek your ' 99 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 support. Would be happy to respond to any questionsy Madam j President.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any discussion? Senator Smith. ' SENATOR SMITH: . Thank you, Madam Chairman. I'd like to direct a question to the sponsorr please.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Indicates bedll yield, Senator Smith.
Thank you. I didn't get a chance to speak to you in -- in the committee, but on the page where you have notable items in the Republican budget, there are some cuts. And I Wanted to know Why you chose to cut prevention of substance abuse programs when these nonies, if used, would save you noney in the long run; namely, under DASA , for the expansion of prevention services to twenty underfunded communities throughout Illinois, which cane to a million dollars, and also the elimination of funds for gan: violence and substance abuse programs in Joliet, East St. Louis, Peoria, Dupage County, Cabrtni Green in Chicago, where I Eepresent, and Rockford. That's for two million dollars. And violence is everywhere. Gang substance is everywhere. It's all - - it's in the papers and everywhere, and I'd like to know, What was your -- the rationale in cutting these programs?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Maitland.
Thank you very much, Madam Presldent. Senator Smith, you may recall, we debated the gan: violence issue ln committee some weeks agor and We had originally taken out a11 but one of those sites and -- and chose to leave one as a pilot plan. In our discussions last evening in budget conference, in -- in an attempt to find I 100 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30y 1994 revenue, we -- we really locked carefully at new programs and chose to take, then, tbe entire three million dollars out of that plan .
PRESIDTNG OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Maitland.
I'm -- I'm -- I'm sorry, Senator Smith. The baser Senator; was not cut, and it is up the amount of the recommended COLA increase by the Governor. We -- that is maintained .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further -- Senator Smith.
Thank you. I thought that this Was one of the Governorls main initiatives, about crime and -- and dope and -- and -- and substance abuse and gangs, and here you are cutting it out? And these are areas here that is just swamped With with gangs and dope subqtance, and We need this.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SESATOR DONAHUE) Senator Maitland .
Thank you -- thank you, Madan President. Senator -- Senatorr you are correct. This is a -- this ls an area that the Gcvernor feels strongly about, and the reduetion that's before you tonight is one that was suggested by them last eveningy as we met in conference and -- and adjusted the budget somewhat from what We had passed earlier.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discusston? Senator Smith.
I merely want to say to the sponsor, you are encouraging gangs; you are encouraging the substance abuse by eliminatlng this part of the program. Xou need this more than you need... l01 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion?
Please. -- I prevail upon you to please think this cut, because -- or provide something for it# because ycu need it. It's vltally needed.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Severns.
Thank youe Madam Presidenez Members of the Senate. know that each and every one of us are very eager to be able to return to cur districts and adjourn. Franklyy I have a lot of spots around this State I would rakher be than Springfieldr but I thlnk as we try to debate the merits and disagreements within the budget, we must consider that just twenty-four -- a little over twenty-four hours ago, this side of the Chamber Was presented right cr wrong - was presented with a two-page -- two-page sheet from the Bureau of the Budget whor in their best estimate, said that the available resources for FY'95 had lncreased by three hundred and eighty-eight milllon dollars. Now some would say, HWhy are we still debating this? We had the hearing. We had the chance to meet wlth the Bureau of the Budget Director last night; don't we have our answers?'' And yet, as one who's enjoyed *he opportunity to be on the budget conference committee for many years, know it took us over three Weeks just to debate the Department of Conseryatlon. We hope, as much as anyoner that the numbers presented to us by the Bureau of the Budget are correctz but we remember too well just a year agor when Senator Jones and at the budget conference table in the Governor's Office, questioned, in a very aggressive way, the Medicaid liability a year ago. We were told then by the same people Who are telling us today that we have three hundred and eighty-eight million dollars l02 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 1994 more, that those numbers were good, only to find out six months in the budget - six months into the budget that we were seven hundred and slxty million dollars short. Two years earlier, thcse same people told us - we were slx months into the budget three hundred and fifty million dollars short. What we do here, as We a1l know, affects the lives of many people. I don 't think anyone could blame us we decided that a three hundred-and- eighty-eight-million-dollar difference should cause lengthier debate and more study. think, however, we 'd be at fault if with twenty-four hours or just a llttle more nctice of such a dramatic change in the projections, we'd just close our eyes with a hope and prayer that once again the people whodve been wrong are right this year. And that's why I belleve that we should not accept this budget. I think greater hearingsr more debate, more deliberatlon is necessary if we are going to do our job. Again, it took three Weeks to debate one agency: the Departnent of Conservation. It seems to me that we should spend more than twenty-four hours to consider the three hundred and eighty-eight million dollars that has just been put on the table. I would urge a No vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Carroll.
Why, thank your Madam President. First, I may ask a question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Indicates he'll yield, Senator Carroll.
Thank you. When We were in committee moments ago, had asked a question that you indicated you would get back to me on, and and rather than presume what the answer was, 1et me ask it again. When we, as the budgeteers, sat down and were working from a l03 STATE OF ELLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 composite list where a11 four caucuses had suggested to each other I what they were at least thinking about cutting from the Gcverncr's budget, as (ntroduced - not House Bills 6, 8 and 9, but rather introduction - and the four staffs and the Bureau compiled those into a sixteen-page chart and then yesterday the Bureau came back and had highlighted the ones they were accepting. The question I asked you in committee was, as we went -- oh, and amending that to sayy Jahn, as went through those, there were some af those highlighted by the Bureau that we conferees unanimously agreed shculd not be cut. Sc with those, We understood what: at least, the package the Bureau had was. Does thls bill, which I admit very openly, of eight hundred and sixty-one pages that Nas given -- was produced from Rules at about 7:20 - and we Went to a meeting at 7:30, so I have not read it in the ten minutes we had - dces this bill contain any add-ons - or, people from other than my district might call it pork - other than the ones that were tdentified of pork fcr Danville Armoryr Western Illinois University, College of Dupager which took money from the line that was for the Americans for Disabllities Act and instead gave it to these universities - those not being in the Governor's budget. What else, in this eight hundred and sixty-one pages that was not in the Governor's budget, has been added in these eighty hundred and sixty-four pages?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Maitland.
Senator, the -- the tuition increases far the Board of Regents is -- is one that would fall into the category, I think, that you suggest; although, that -- that was in Senate Bill 6, as we -- as we spoke. The tuition offset was there. Thcugh if you recall, We thought for a moment SIU, but they did not -- they chose not to go with their additional tuition increase. I think, Senatorr in al1 104 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislatlve Day June 30, 1994 sincerity, that -- that is a1l that We know of.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Carroll.
.. . tmicrophone cutcffl...that -- so that the only additions to the Governor's budget is tuition increases for the Board of Regents, College of Dupager Western Illinois University and Danville Armory, and I understand Quincy was in the original budget. Is that right?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senatcr Maitland.
Senator, you have been, I think -- and I -- and I -- scmewhat at a disadvantage because you have not been a part of al1 -- a11 the conference committees when we've discussed this. And -- and -- and so , the questkon you are asking ks with respect to the Governon's original introduced level. In committeer we were discussing House Bills 6, 8 and 9, so its -- we need to decipher out scme cf these things. For exampler the AFSCME one percent that we have discussed and the -- and the corresponding benefits, things like thatr were not there and Were in discussion, so I -- I frankly think the question you are asking 1s, is there any pork in this budget. And -- and -- and there simply are no add-cns, other than the ones that you have just suggested, and there is certainly no GRF add-onsr because those that were in the ariginal bills have been taken out as well.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Carroll.
Thank you, Madam President. It 's been reminded I should suggest it -- I mean, at least I discuss it as chicken. You can call it pork. The meat looks the same color either way, and then l05 STATE OF ILLINOIS ! 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 it's been suggested they may come home to roost. Speaking, then, to the budget itself, I echo the comments of Senator Severnsr that yesterday we found the maglc money to allow us to supposedly balance a budget of thirty-two billion dollars that tcok eight 1 hundred and sixty-one pages to print, for monies that we finally ' I had a hearlng on, to the credit of the chair of the committee and j the sponsor of the billr but that's really the first full and open I di I scussion, and still left some quest#ons, I felt, unanswered. I ; I am still concerned with the fact that if gaming is producing forty-five mllllon dollars, that should have been added to the Governor's elementary, secondary and higher education two-hundred-and-fifty-millicn-dollar increase that he announced in March, and it should ncw be two-ninety-five. There's people who disagree with that, but I think the public felt that when We added riverboat gaming, that that's where that monies should go - minor item. I am concerned if we are delaying payments to providers of medical services - health care benefits, pharmaciesr et al - to State enployees - something we desperately tried to get away from over the years, and it lccks to me ltke we're creeping back. Governor has suggested, according to the Director of the Sureau of the Budget, that we go to a thirty- to potentially forty-five-day paynent cycle again in paying the bills of State employees for doctors, dentists, hospitals, pharmacies, chiropractors, et cetera, in order to pay Medicaid bills to doctcrs, dentists: pharmacles, hospitals, chiropractors, et cetera. Trading one debt for another, to mer does not make a 1ot of sense. And whlle Economic and Flscal said it mlght be up to as much as fifty-five days, a1l we're doing is swapping debt. And debt is debt is debt. There's no catch-up if you're just adding to what we owe at the end of the day. Lot of other reasons, and 1111 keep -- I can hear the clicke so 1'11 keep my remarks very, veryr very brief, for me. It seems to me that this budget is based on very shifting sands. ! I 106 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30r 1994 We saw the numbers problems mentioned them earlier today When we tried to pass a budget last July and found the Bureau and the Governor's numbers to be off by seven hundred and sixty million. I'n truly scared that We're going to be there again, and the tax increase next year to pay for this budgetr with the known carryover in Medicaidr is going to exeeed two billion dollars. That's scary. I hope we can save money, and I would have proposed we go back and adopt some of these cuts that you recommended: we reconmended, House Republicans recommended, House Democratsr and use those savings those additional savings - based on solid foundation to pay our bills. And I Would urge opposition. Thank you, Madam President.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Hendon.
Thank you, Madam President. Well, here We are at the eleventh hour with an eleventh-hour budget that's nothing but smoke and mirrors. This is a hocus-pccus, out-of-focus budget. That's Nhat is. We look up -- and I just want to make sure everybcdy knows how appalling it is to get a document this large and get five minutes to read it and then come to the Flccrr have a little quick meeting on it and expect anybody to intelligently vote for this. Even the sponsor of the bill does'not kncw everything that's this budget. None of us know everything that's in it because We just got it, and I contend that it is not good government, it is not responsible government, for us to take the taxpayers' money and just spend lt willy-nilly, pie in the sky, hocus-pocus, hope it come out al1 rigbt. That is the wrong way to govern this State. We have a lot of people out there that are suffering. There are certain things in this budget that I do know are in here. And Senator Carroll tries to be nice about but there is pork in this budget. There is enough pork this budget to make 107 i STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 pork chops for Fourth of July for everybcdy around the State cf Illinois. That's hoW much pork is in this budget. And let's talk for a minute about what's not this budget. Programs for homeless youth - that's not in this budget: yet this Governor says he cares about the children. A11 we hear about is this tou:h cn crime tough on crime. But yet, what do you cut out? You cut out the money for drug, alcohol and substance abuse and to fight gangs. You sayr ''We1l# we don't have to worry about that now 'cause we'll take care of it later.'' Well, later is todayr my friends. Later right now . We have to deal with every young person that's out there in a gang or selling drugs, to the tune of twenty thousand dollars a year to incarcerate them. But yet: we take out this little three million dollars for Cabrini Green and Rockford and other areas where we have this problemy as if it's going to go away. Well, We have a Gcvernor who can make money appear and disappearr so maybe this Governor thinks he can make crlme appear and disappear. But I doubt it. I doubt if it's going to happen. So what's at the core of this? 1'11 tell you what's at the core of this: The problem we have here a failure of leadership . This ship is sailing without a captain. Governor Edgar is asleep at the wheel, my friends. He's shown no leadership, and that is why we're here at this late hour with this watch-me-pull-a-rabbit-out-of-my-hat budget; which is what he did. He took this here -- he took from one hand, put the other hand and said, 'fLook, everybodyy I found some money.'' Well, he dldn't find any moneyy my friends. Re just found some paper. And you know what you need to do with this budget? I got a trash can right here. You can just take this Governor's budgetr put the garbage, because that's exactly what it is. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACOBS: l08 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30r 1994 Thank you, Madam Presidentr Ladies and Gentlemen of the i Senate. You know, I think we've all been around here long enough I to understand the numbers, number one, but also I think wefve a11 been around long enougb to understand that a1l budgets are based . on estimates. And I'm not sure if the three hundred and eighty mlllion, or whatever it is that the Governor supposedly foundr is correct. I'm not sure if the two hundred and ninety million that Fiscal and Economic says that we have ls correct. And I'm not sure if the total dollars that ve expect in revenues are correct. Those are things that only time will tell. We may be right. We may be wrong. I want to get out of here as bad as everyone else. We want to have a budget so we can pay cur bills, which we have not done a very good job of aver the past few years. We a11 want to do that. But I guess my question to the sponsor would be - and maybe he Would be kind enough to answer it: Inasmuch as the House has already adjcurned - and don't get me wrong, because I don't pretend to say the House controls this or anything else - but are we not truly just fighting a battle, an exercise in futility? Because al1 we dre doing is making a show . A1l we're dolng -- and you probably have got the votes to pass this budget out of here tonight. But what's it going to do? It's going to lay there. The House is not going tc act upon it tonight. It's going to take an extraordinary majority. We are going to have to come back and fight this whole battle a11 over again. Sa, are we, in fact, just spinning our wheels again, which we have such a great tendency to do in this great Body? And are Ne really splitting hairs whenever we talk about whether it's three hundred and eighty million or whether it's two hundred? It might even be six hundred million. We really don't know. We really don 't know. And I think the ! ghole battle here on this side of the aisle versus the other side of the -- I would love to vote for this budget and get the hell out of here. I would love to do it. I think where the problem I 109 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30r 1994 lies, howevery is how those dollars are spent. And I dcn't think that we've really had the opportunity: whenever there is an additional three hundred and eighty millicn dollars that al1 of a sudden comes to light - probably is there - that we do not have . the opportunity to really skt down and decide, really , on a -- a conscientious effort, of how that three hundred and eighty million dollars should be spent. I do share one of the very common comments that are nade on this side of the aislep which is in regards to the riverboat gaming monies. There was another committee meeting tonight which, again, wants to take -- try to take riverboat gaming monies from education and give it elsewhere. And I just wonder if we ever stop to thinkr when we pass one bit of legislation, why we should not follow what we pass. And it bothers me a little b1t to think that we want to take money - forty-two million, if that's what the figure is - from riverboat gamblinge which is supposed to go to education, that we don't take that money and put it into education. I think that's a sin, and I think our problem really lies in the expenditure, Senator, in a11 -- in a1l candor, rather than the revenue estimate. I know many of the people on this side of the aisle want to argue the revenue estimate. I don't care. The money is going to be there. If it's notr we can have a supplemental. We do a1l these little games throughout the period of year. I just think that We need a little more time to -- to adjust to -- to the three hundred and eighty million dollars, and to make sure that it's being spent in the proper Way. So, I just wonder if We're not -- having an exercise in futillty here. Thank you very much. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Maitland. SENATOR MAITLAND: i Thank you very much, Madam President, Members of the Senate. ! I Senator Jacobs, I -- I appreciate very much your -- your commentr ll0 STATE OF ILLINOIS I 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 and 1et me -- let me respond. You knowr every Member cf this Body - al1 fifty-nine Members - are very proud to be in this Chamber. Whether it was under President Rock's leadership as President, or now President Philipr this Body, Republican and Demccrat alike, do the right thtng. We have our partësan differences, but this noW is the thlrd time, Ladies and Gentlemen, that we have passed a budget and sent it to the Illinois House - the third time. Keep in mind, the Illinois House -- the Illinois House has not voted one time this year on a budget - not once, not one item - the first time in the history of *he General Assembly that a Body has not voted on a budget before adjournment day. Shame cn them. Shame on them. Senator Jacobs, We have a right and an obligationy lt seems to mey to pass a budget over to the Hcuse and hope and pray that very soon they will come back and realize that we had to get about the State's business and pass a budget. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Jones. SENATOR JONES: Thank you: Madam President. And I am mindful of the fact of what Senator Ralca said, but I thlnk I've been in this Bcdy long enough to know when a Member asks another Member a question. And I don 't recall in the remarks made by Senator Jacobs that he asked Senator Maitland a questlon. So, is -- is it the procedure here, Madam Chairperson, for every Member on this side of the aisle to make a -- a speech that the spcnsor of this bill will jump up and rebut that statement? He was nob asked a question. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Jonesr he asked a question. Further discussien? Senator Colllns. SENATOR COLLINS: Thank you, Madam President and Members of the Senate. I have to admit that Senator Jacobs probably -- of al1 of the comments 111 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION ' SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30: 1994 that I've heard, had probably the most, I think, valuable ones to me - his comments - and probably the more real ones. This is really beneath all of the political posturing here. 1 hope that what will come out of this debate tonight, Senatorr is the recognition of how we got to Where we are, and also. recognition that We truly need to change the whole budgeting process, and even ! maybe take a look at how we actually -- and the kind of accountlng systems that we use tbat would allow us the flexlbility tc do the i i political manipulation -- fiscal manipulation that we do to the point that it's out of control, which does not really lend itself I to even the possibility of having a balanced budget. So that's why we come back every year, in the middle of the fiscal year, and we find ourselves without adequate revenue to respond to those obligations and contracts that we enter into as of June lst of flscal -- of each fiscal year. This has happened repeatedly over i the years since I've been here, and it's probably the fundamental reasons behind -- which I have not voted for the budgets, because the budget truly has never been balanced, to my knowledgep since I I've been here. But the reality of a11 of this is that we do have to take a serious look at what we 're daing here. This is a blatant example, probably more blatant this year, and probably at a tlme when this State is in some very -- has some very crltical fiscal problems and the absence of a real plan to get -- get . ourselves out of the fiscal mess that we've been in now for the past several years. This is really serious here, and let me give you a good example. Senator Carroll raised Ehe questlon. I had an opportunity to sit in on the Appropriation Commiktee. I was not allowed to ask questions this afternoon, although we were told i that the opportunity for a hearing down there on this budget -- that we could go down and there was gokng to be a hearing. I ; assumed khat the Senakors a1l could participate. Of course, I Nas not allowed to ask a question. But lt makes no sense to me to say k ! 112 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 that you can take out forty-five mlllion dollars from the enployees' group insurance - health lnsurance - at the same time We are not paytng bills on time, and then - and then - it would not impact upon the payment cycle. Sor Senator, I would like for you tc answer that question for me tonight. HoW many days will the payment cycles be delayed if, in fact, we take out *he forty-five nillion dollars that you said that we don't have to put Ln, we can save, from tbe employees' group insurance policies? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) i Senator Maitland.
The answer, accordlng to CMSr Senator, is none . ; PRESIDING OFFICER: (SEHATOR DONAHUE) I Senator Collins. i SENATOR COLLINSI ! j Senator, that makes no ccmmon sense. Now I know sameone once said - and this is a true example here - that common sense seldcm 1 prevails in the houses of government, and this is an example. It doesn't take a genius to kncw that if we are delayed now -- many State employees go to the doctor or take their families to the doctors, and they are rejected. I know for fact. I receive the calls in my office. It happens to me. My dentistsr my doctors are saying, ''We will notr'' because some of them are now six months behind. One of the hospitals in my -- my district now -- I received mail just now, talking about, support this plan, because they were already six mcnths behind on reimbursement. So you canit tell me that you can noW take out forty-five million and it does not lmpact upon Khe payment cycle. It also kmpacts upon the interest that we have to pay when those payments go overtime. So it does have future financial fiscal impact. And so it is that kind of taking the money from the education, from the Lottery i that's supposed to go in, putting it into another potr and that's j l 113 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 al1 we do. And so in the end, making an adjustments and revenue ! estimates on the basis of political expediencies - that makes no sense at all. And making these changes and shifts in line items without definitive information to justify or to validate there will, in fact, be no fiscal impact, makes no sense at all. And E soy you can 't tell me that. This is an example. I would hope that everybody will take this debate, if for no other purpose at all but to listen how ridiculous it is and give us time over the next couple of days to take a look at this budget. You go back tc the table, because that's what's going to happen to this budget tonight when it gets to the House. It's going no place. Hopefully we can do the right thing, and if there is any hope that we are going to ever get out cf the financlal mess that we are in tcdayr Wefre going to have to change the way we do business and >pend the taxpayers' dollars.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Karpiel.
Thank you, Madam President. I move the previous question.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Lapaille. i SENATOR LaPAILLE: Thank youz Madam President. Tc the bill: As Democrats, we probably should be voting for this plan, because this is a blueprint for defeat for this Governor. And all you have tc do is Eake a look at what he's copied. He's copied Reaganomics and Bushonomics to the Eee - to the kee. Four years in a row this I Governor is going to borrow funds to operate this State. His predecessor, in fourteen years, twice - twice he went to borrow money to operate this State. But last week he was told no by the Speaker and by our Minority Leader. Sa, What happens? When you j can't borrow, then you just lie. You cook the numbers, and that's I I 114 STATE OF ILLINOIS ' 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislatlve Day June 30# 1994 What happened yesterday. They couldn't barrow, then they saidz I ''Flne. We'11 just cook the numbers and we'll come up with about four hundred milllon dollarsr and we'll get out of herer because We've got to get those TV commercials on - those nice, warm r fuzzy TV commercials. And We den't Want the taxpayers of this State really knowing What's happening.'' But the taxpayers in 1992 listened, in the Presidential debate, to someone that was saying we have to do something about how we're financing government. And honestly: there's probably many Members on our side that Were a little worried when our candidate talked about What you have to do, and what you have to do to make tough decisions to get the budget back in order. And the people listenedr and he won. And under thts President, after the first three years in office, he 'll reduce rhe federal deflcit by forty percent. After fcur years, fifty-petcent reduction. But what happened under Reagan and Bush? The deftcit was nine hundred billion dollars. Now it's -- Nhen President Cllnton took over, 3.5 trillion dollars. But this Governor ls using the same game plan cf Reagan and Bushr is just make everybody feel real good and everything will be okay. Tonight this is a budget that's designed to get us out cf here/ to get us out of here so Lhose paid TM commercials can kick ln and everything will be okay until November. But let's take a look what will happen after November for either Jim Edgar or Dawn Netsch. We may have a z.z-billion-dollar deficit. I won't be here, but youdll a11 be sltting here. You'll a11 be sittlng here, looking at a z.z-billion-dollar deficit. This budget only contains nine months of funding for hospitals and nursing homes, and you're a1l going to sit here and have to wondery ''How We gcing to fill that holea'' In group insurance, tWo days agor We Were told that we needed fifty-eight million dollars fcr group insurance. Overnight, a1l we needed is -- we can cut forty-eight million. Whoop! It Was just a problem. We don't need 115 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 forty-elght million. Could you be that off ën group insurance? 1 So this is a budget that's designed to go along with Reaganomics I and Bushonomics. Quite frankly we should be supporting it, because what played out in 1992 will play out again in 1994. But We can't do that to the Illinois taxpayer, and this bill should be voted down.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Jones.
Thank your Madam President. Well, here we go again - the blind leading the blind. When we got the Budget Address from the Governor earlier this sprtngz he blindly told us he had to borrcw and refinance the bonds to pay off that l.8 -- 1.5 billion dollars in Medicaid debt. We on thls side of the aisle looked at it very carefully and said no. So you voted on that side of the aisle to rob the taxpayers of almost three hundred million dcllars in interest that you had to pay on those bcnds. And al1 of a sudden, the -- David Copperfield on the Second Floor yesterday said, ''Oops! We don't need that anymore.'' He blindly tells us We've got three hundred and eighty-eight million dollars. Againr when are -- when are you guys on the other side of the aisle going tc realize that you're being hoodwlnked, you're being tricked by ycur own Governor? I know you don't want to get caught tn thls posture of voting for something, only have to come back next week or the week after and change. If he was sincere about the budgetz if he Was sincere about the three hundred and eighty-eight million dollars that he's found, don 't you think he would have told us about this two or three weeks ago, rather than have it a11 of a sudden pop up? I listened to the debate on the isspe as it relate to the shell game and funding of education. It's a issue that bad bipartisan support. We passed legislation to say the gaming : dollars must go to education. But with al1 *he hypocrisy in this 1l6 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 bill, the fcrty-five million dollars, you're not putting that into educatlon. It should go on top of the -- of the supposedly a i I hundred and sixty million dollars for elementary and secondary, to make it two hundred and five million dollars, if we want to tell the people of Illinois the truth.. This is a terrible budget. Yau know and I knoW that we Will be back here next week going cver the same issues over and over again. If you talk about fairness and denocracy, not one Democratic amendment to this -- to this budget, when it was heard twc or three weeks ago, has been accepted. You know it and I know i*. But yet and still, you -- you talk about fairness and openly. If we Would have followed the dictates of your Leader on the other slde of the aisle and adjourned on May 30th, we would have tricked the taxpayers of Illknois by sinking three hundred million dollars of that money down a sinkhole. So let's -- let's be fair about this game. This -- this budget shculd be defeated. It should have open discussion and debater as there will be. And maybe -- naybe the three hundred and eighty-eight million dollars might be there. You don't know this. You 've been tricked once. Ycu should tell the Governor, ''You tricked us once; let's not fool us a second time.'' And vote No on thls budget.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Demuzio.
Well, thank you, Madam Chairman. I -- I shall attempt to be brief. And, Senator Maitland, let me first of a1l applaud you for the efforts that you are putting -- put forth here this evening because We have certainly come a long way. On May the 20th of this year in this Senate, there was a bond authorization bill that was defeated 32 to 27, and I know that there was a 1ot of apprehension on that side of the aisle, because it was a departure from previous practices of issuing bonds to pay for everyday debt. And I know a lot of you didn't want to do it over there. 1 know a ! I ! 117 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGPLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 lot of you didn't want to pass that program and not to start paying principal for two years and stretch out thcse bonds for thirty-some years, because may be another grandfather this evening, and that tittle lady may have to be around here to pay off that debt. And I'm glad that it didn't pass, and certainly glad that the Governor backed off of wauld applaud, however, the efforts Senator Jones and also Mike Madlgan, the Speaker, who indlcated that they too wculd not go along With this restructuring of current debt. Quite frankly, think that that would have been probabky the Worst vote that would have cast in my twenty years here, because would have started us along a path of some new innovative, creative mechanism of creating new State debt. But fortunately for us, we 're not -- welre not about that this evening. And quite frankly, even nentioned that to the Governor this last Friday night, when I had an opportunity to see him at the grand opening of the Olympics in Edwardsvtlle. Governor indicated to me, OWe11: gee, thls is a one-time shot.'' But the fact of the matter is that we Would look too much like Congress, and frankly, We on this side of the aisle, as Democrats who oppose borrowing, and you on that side of the aisle who were in favor of borrowing, it put us at sort of a little bit of an ideological flip-flop for some reason or another. But on May the 20th, that fortunately, in fact, did -- did not -- d1d not pass. So I think you've come a long way from the borrowing, and now Ne're -- with this, with a creatlve package of new numbers khat have popped up within the last tuenty-four hours. And I think that you owe to yourself and you owe to us to have the opportunity to really have a thorough discussion of a11 the issues that are pertinent to this budget, because we certainly want to be cooperative too. And tomorrow will certainly afford us the opportunity to have the opportunity to have a long-range look at a11 of the aspects of -- of this budget. And I am really sorry 118 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 I thatonMaythe20thralotofpeople inthisChamberhad to make 1 . that decision on whether or not to go along with bonding and -- or ; not. And I think if that's the future that we have to look far under the Edgar administrationy we probably need some neN leadership, because it's okay for the administration to bond debt for thirty years to let my grandchildren pay it off. I don't think that's the proper ccurse. I'm sorry you had to make that vote on May the 20th. Give us an opportunity tomorrow and over the weekend to take a look at this budget and work cooperatively with you, tnstead of looking at these cooked numbers. But, John, let me applaud ycu. We've come a long way. We're nct there yet, but we'll still -- we'll work cooperatively over the Weekend and lnto next week to see if we can't craft a budget that ue can al1 agree on.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Cullerton, Senator Denuzio was the last speaker. The question had been moved . Senator Maitland, to close.
Well, thank you very much: Madam President, Members of the Senate. Interesting debate this evening: and it's interesting tc listen to some of the Members talk about how this budget was -- was put together. This budget has been debated and discussed in committee, on the Floor, in conference committee, for now onto four months. Senator Hendon, I very seldom respcnd to your comments on the Floorr but I'm going to do that tonight. You held up a document and said that's the first time you have had a chance to look at anythlng that was in thaE budget. That budget, as we 've said tonight in the dialogue that Senator Carrcll and I had, it is practically identical to a budget that you have voted on several times this year. And it is an indictment of your very capable staff to suggest that work hadn 't been done, because your staff, which is a very fine staffz has worked extremely well with I ll9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislattve Day June 30, 1994 our staff, and everybody who cares, and wants to give lt the attentionr knows What's in this budget. So that is a baloney argument, and I'm sorry you made that comment tonight. It simply is not true. Senator Lapaille, history Was made on the Floor of this Chamber last fall when we entered into an agreement with the Chicago School System to help them out of a very difficult flnanclal situation. We granted up to four hundred and fifteen million dollars of bond sales to bcnd that school system out of their deficit. In two yearsy that money is all gone, but the debt service continues. And there's going to be another problem. And you 'll be back here, and you dre going to be asking us to help again. And we would llke very nuch to be able to do that. But to stand on this Floor tonight and to bang on the Governor for offering a plan, offering a plan that got us out of a very serious fiscal dilemma by simply delaying debt payment for tWc yearsy uhich would have paid off our providers, at the same time pass managed care and those two had to gc together: because it's al1 right to bond for operations debt if you address the cause that got you in that difficulty in the first place. But wasn't that you disltked the Governor's plan. It Was tbat you liked it too muchr because it Was fiscally sound, it Worked, it allowed us to get control of the Medlcaid expenditures. But aha ! was an election year. Let's stick it to the Governor, and stick it to the Governcr you have dcne. So we realkzed that. We say, ''Okay, it's a political year. They don't Nant to be statesmen. That's fine. Let's adjust it and work out the plan some other way.'' We knew, and think you knew, thak as we were moving koward the end of the fiscal year, the revenue situation was looking better. And indeed, when *he numbers were released yesterday - combination of additional revenue and decreased utilization, a cut in the budget, some debt restructuring we were able to free up substantial money to get part of that federal natch to help us pay some of our 120 L- . - - STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 back bills. That Was our second plan. When you didn't like the first plan of the Governor, we said, give us -- ''Tell us What you can do.'' Silence, because you didn't have an answer. You knew the Governor's plan was workable and the best, and you were embarrassed that you didn't think of it. Now we come With the second plan. Same thing happens again. We sat last night in conference for three hours and debated this budget. Your side of the aisle listened tc the numbers and agreed with them , and agreed with the cuts. We walked out of there last night thinking we had a deal. With a few more adjustments with the four Leaders, we Would have been out of here, with a budget that showed good grcwth for some very necessary services that I'm going to tell you about in a minute. But, ah, nc. The Great Master today changed his mind, because prcbably in a conversation Nith Dawn Netsch, ''Please don't do that; it'll hurt me just a bit mare.'' And so the Whole deal that was made this week, in a statesmanlike way, Was shoved down the tube. And now we've been at loggerheads all day long. Senator Jones. Senator Jonesr all those Democratic amendments that you say weren 't looked at? Let me tell you what we did. Where is Senator Jones? Senator Jones, Democratic amendments accepted - cuts - thirty-six. Probably more than We accepted of our own. Who ycu been listening to? Who have you been listening to? Thirty-six amendments. Shame on you. Let's talk about what this budget does and hoW hard we wcrked as Republicans and Denocrats together in a responsible Body . DCFS - 31.5 percent increase over FY'94. What an uncarlng - what an uncaring - budget. DPA - 18.2 percent increase. Corrections - 5.2 percent increase. Ohr yes, going to be interesting to watch the votes against those new priscn guards we put in, Great vote. Great vote. DORS 10.7 percent increase. DASA fifty-five-percent increase, Senator Smith. Fifty-five-percent increase cver FY'94. Aging eight percent. Elementary and secondary - up one hundred 12l STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGOLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 3G, 1994 sixty miklton dollars. Hkgher education - up eighty-seven millicn I dollars. What an uncaring budget. What an uncaring budget. I Ladies and Gentlemen, this Body has Norked responsibly, as Republicans and Democrats together. Let's -- let's be statesmen i - tonight The end of the fiscal year. . . Let ,s do What ,s right. 1 Let's pass yet the third budget over to the Hcuse and hope and pray sometime - sometime - they will be statesmen toc . I urge your support.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) The question is: shall House Bill 12 pass. Those in favcr will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. And the voting is open. Have a1l voted who wksh? Have all voted Who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 32 Ayesr 24 Nays and 3 voting Present. On -- House Bill l2r having received the required constltutional najority, is declared passed. Commlttee Reports.
Senator Weaver, Chair of the Committee on Rules, reports that the following Legislature Measures have been assigned to committees: Re-referred from the Executive Committee to the Rules Committee - Senate Joint Resolution 1847 referred to the Committee on Public Health and Welfare - Conference Committee Repcrt l to House Bilk 24247 and Be Approved for Consideration - Senate Joinb Resolution 184.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) .. . tmachine cutoffl...noment, waiting for another Supplemental Calendar. So if we could just be at ease for just a feN minutes. Don't go anywhere. Just a few minutes. Resolutions. o..lmachine cutoffl...could have your attention a minute. Right nowy Supplemental Calendar No. 3 is being distributed, and on that is Secretary's Desky Resolutions. They deal with the Senate joint resolutions regarding the information on the constitutional l22 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 amendments for the ballot in November. So, on Supplemental Calendar No. 3 is Senate Joint Resolution 182. Madam Secretary, read the resolution. ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Joint Resolution 182, offered by Senator Watson and others. No committee or Floor amendments reported. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Watson. SENATOR WATSON: Yes. Thank you. Madam President, as you can see on the Supplemental Calendar No . 3, Senate Joint Resolution No. 182, offered by myself: Senator Karpiel, Senator Welch and Palmer. We have met to discuss exactly what it says here. Sets forth the explanation, arguments and ballot for -- form prepared by the Joint Committee on the Amendment on Effectlve Dates regarding the proposed constitutional amendment to appear on the 1994 general election ballot. This is the blue ballot that -- material that's sent to a11 registered voters with an explanation of why the amendment should pass and an explanation against bhe amendment. We adopted language on b0th sides, and we have that before you now . This is the amendment dealing with the change of the effective date of legislation, which, in practicality, what it does is changes the adjournment date. Currently it's June 30th, midnight, which we Will experlence here in about one hour. We wculd like to see -- I guess I should qualify that. The amendment says we change it to May 31st. Even though cbviously most cf us Wculd like to see us adjourn May 31st, that's not what thls proposal is all about. This is just a blue ballot that will be sent to those people, explaining why this is a good idea and why, maybe, it isntt a good idea. So this is something we have to do. I know of no objection and ask for support of the Senate. l23 STATE OF ILLINOIS I 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY I REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any discussion? Any dëscussion? Seeing none, I Senator Watson moves the adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 182. Those in favor will vote Aye. Thcse opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open . Have a1L voted who wish? Have al1 voted Who I wish? Have a11 voted who wish? . Take the record. On that question, there are 58 Ayes, na Nays and none voting Present. The resolution is adopted. Senate Joint Resolution 184. Madam Secretaryr read the resolutlon. ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER: i Senate Joint Resolution 184, offered by Senator Fawell. There are no Floor or committee amendments. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) i Senator Fawell.
Thank you very much . This, too, is the arguments against the Illinois.constitution <sic> which would limit the term limitations -- would stop the term linitations -- constitutional amendment. It has been worked on by a bipartisan committee, and it has been signed off by most involved. And I would ask for your Aye vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any discussion? Any discussion? Seeing none, the questlon 1s, shall Senate Joint Resolution 184 pass. Thcse in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all . voted Who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted who Uish? Take the record. On that question, there are 55 Ayes, no Nays, 2 votlng Present. The resolution is adopted. Messages from the House.
A Message Crom the House by Mr. Rossi, Clerk. Mr. President - I am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has adopted the following joint 124 STATE 0F ILLINOIS I 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY j REGULAR SESSION ' SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 resolution, in the adoption of which I am -- I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senatey to wit: House Joint Resolution 172, sponsored by Senatcr Weaver. (Secretary reads HJR No. 172) j Adopted by the House, June 30thr 1994. '
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senatcr Weaver. i SENATOR WEAVER: i Thank you, Madam Presldent. I would move for the suspension of the rules for the immediate consideration and adoption of House Joint Resolution 172.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Weaver moves to suspend the rules for the purpose of the immediate consideration and adoption of House Joint -- Joint Resolution 172. Those ln favor will say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have itr and the rules are suspended. Senator Weaver has moved for the adoption of House Joint Resolutlon 172. Those in favor will say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have ltr and the resolution is adopted. Senator Philipr for What purpose do you rise?
Thank you, Madam President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Just to inform the Members exactly what this resolution lntends to do. And what this does is have us in perfunctory Sessions for those days mentioned. The Members, it's not necessary to be here, unless the Governor's Office and the four Leaders can come to some kind of a reasonable conclusion or the House of Representatkves acts on something that We may have to react to. So it would be the intent, like We did during the Chicagc school crisis, that when we have come to a reasonable conclusion, we will try to notify the Members as soan as pcssible, and certainly wlthin twenty-four hours. 125 STATE OF ILLINOIS ; 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislative Day June 30, 1994 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) I Senator Phllip.
Now that you've a11 digested that, I've got a real surprise for you. And I have been notified by the Governor -- lntends to. call a Special Session of the General Assembly tomcrrow, July 1st, 1 p.m ., to deal wkth the budget and Medicakd problems. The ' Governor intends to file that proclamation with the Secretary of I State tomorrow. So it would lcok like we will be back in Sesslon tomorrow . There will be a meeting of the Leadership in the Governor's Office at noon. We will come back here and be in Session at 1 o 'clock. Hopefully We'11 do the right thing for a change and solve those problems and adjourn this -- the General Assembly.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Jones, for what purpose do you rise?
Thank you, Mr. President. In response to the -- the proposed statement about the meeting in the Governor's Office, it's nice that I hear that message fron you, my colleague, Senator Phllip. I thought the Governor would have the courtesy to at least call me and say there would be a meeting in his office at noon. But thank you for telling me about lt.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Phllip . Senator Philip.
As soon as we adjourn, Madam Presidentr I suggest we have a Republlcan Caucus ln my office.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Hall, for what purpose do you seek recognition?
Thank you, Madam Presldent. I just want to get a l26 STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 138th Legislatlve Day June 30, 1994 I clarification on -- on what the President just said. Are we to be I i heretomorrowyet? 1 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) It is cur understanding that the Governor is -- is saying -- . as we speak, is calling for a Special Session tomorrow at 1 p.m. So, yes, you will need to be here at 1 p .m., Senator Hall. The regular Session of the General Assembly -- or the Senate Will recess -- or adjourn until Tuesday, July 5th. Senator Carroll, for what purpose do you rise? SENATOR CARROLL: Inquiry of the Chairs Madam President, if I might. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) State your point. SENATOR CARROLL: Having heard this from the President, has a Medicaid nanaged-care bill ever been introduced? Has the Governor's plan ever been put befcre either Chamber of the General Assembly? It's my understanding wefve been waiting for a draft for weeks, const#ntly told there Was one, and as of 11:15, Ne haven't seen it, as of June 30th. So I don't know how we could have actedr unless I missed scmething in Introduction of Bills. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Carrolly I believe we'll know about l o'clock tomorrcw. Senator Philip. SENATOR PHILIP: If there's no further businesg to come before the Senate, I suggest that we adjourn. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senate stands adjourned untll July 5th, Tuesday. 127 G * + REPORT: TIFLDAY STZTE OF ILLIMOIS 9:/11/0V PAGE:001 88TH GENERAL ASSEHBLY SENATE 16:42:23 j DAILY IRâNSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX JUME 30y 199: HB-0012 RECALLED PAGE 97 HB-0012 THIRD READING PAGE 99 HB-0012 OTHFR PAGE 9 H8-1635 REFDSE T0 RECEDE PâGE 10 H8-1882 RECALLED PAGE 98 HB-1915 CONFEBENCE PAGE 16 HB-2)k) RECALLED PAGE 22 HB-2RkR THIRD READING PAGE 50 HB-2RVR OTHER PAGE 9 H8-3197 CONFERENCE PAGE 80 SB-0230 CONFERENCE PAGE 17 58-0398 CONFERENCE PZGE 82 SB-0V81 CONCURRENCE PAGE 73 58-0776 MON-CONCURRENCE PAGE 75 SB-1191 CONFERENCE PAGE 8: 58-1267 CONFERENCE PAGE 86 58-1285 MON-CONCURRENCE PAGE R 58-1332 NON-CONCURRENCE PAGE 5 58-1365 CONFERENCE PAGZ 89 SB-1672 NON-CONCURRENCE PAGE 3 SB-1T26 CONFERENCE PAGE 9: SB-1803 NON-CONCURRENCE PAGE 5 58-1832 CONCURRENCE PAGE 16 58-1832 NON-CONCURRENCE PAGE 79 SR-16%3 âDOPTED PAGE 10 SR-16RR àDOPTED PAGE 11 5R-1687 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 2 E 5R-1688 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 2 5R-1689 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 8 SR-1690 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 8 SR-1691 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 8 5R-1692 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 8 5R-1693 RESOLUTICN OFFERED PAGE 8 SR-169R RESOLUTIOK OFFERED PâGZ 8 5R-1695 RESOLUTION OFFERED PZGE 8 5R-1696 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 8 SR-169T RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 8 5R-1698 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 9 5R-1699 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 87 SR-1700 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 87 SR-1701 RESOLUTION OFFERED PâGE 87 SR-1702 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 93 HJR-0172 ADOPTED PAGE 125 HJR-0172 RESOLUTION OFFERED PâGE 125 SJR-0152 ADOPTED PAGE 12 SJR-0181 ADOPTED PAGE 16 SJR-0182 ADOPTED PAGE 123 SJR-0182 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 88 SJR-0183 RESOLUTION OFFERED PàG; 93 SJR-0184 ADOPTED PAGE 12R SJR-018: RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 93 SUBJECT HATTER SENâTE TO ORDER-PRESIDENT PHILIP PAGE 1 PRAYER-PASTOR GAYLORD BUSS PAGE 1 JOURNZLS-POSTPONED PAGE 1 RECESS PRGE 1 SENATE RECONVENES PAGE 2 RECESS PAGE 2 SENATE RECONVENES PAGE 2 COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 2 RECESS PAGE 6 SEKATE RCCONVENES PâGE 6 > REPORT: TIFLDAY STATE 0F ILLINOIS 9M/11/0: PAGE: 002 88TH GENERZL ZSSEHBLY 16:)2:23 SENATE DAILY TRZNSCRIPTICN OF DEBâTE INDEX JDNE 30, 199: SUBJECT HATTER COMMITTEE REPORT P2GE RECESS PAGE SENATE RECONVENES PAGE COMHITTEE REPORTS PAGE HESSAGE FROH THE HOUSE PàGE HESSâGE FROM THE PRESIDENT-DEADLINE EXTENSIONS PAGE COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE EXECUTIVE SESSION-CGNSIDER APPOINTHENTS PAGE ARISE FROH EXECUTIVE SESSIOM PAGE MESSZGE FRCH THE HOUSE PAGE COHHITTEE HEPORT PZGE AT EASE PAGE SENATE RECONVENES PAGE COHHITTEE REPORTS PAGE HESSAGES FROM THE HOUSE PAGE RESOLUTIONS COKSENT CALENDAR-ADOPTED PAGE COHMITTEE REPORTS PAGE MESSAGE FROM THE HOUSE PAGE ADJODRNMENT PAGE