PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) The regular Session of the 89th General Assembly will come to order. Will the Members please be at their desksr and will our guests in the gallery please ri@e. Our prayer today will be glven by Pastor Mike Roberts of the First Baptisb Churchz Fairmount, Illinois. Pastor Roberts.
(Prayer by Pastor Mike Roberts)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) A1l -- all rise for the Pledge of Allegiance. Senator Sieben.
(Pledqe of Alleqiance, led by Senator Sieben)
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Reading of the Journal.
Senate Journals of Tuesday, March 21st7 Wednesdayr March 22nd) Thursday, March 22rd; and Friday, March 24thy 1955 -- 1995.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Geo-Karis.
Mr. President, I move that the Journals just read by the Secretary be approved, unless some Seaator has addltions or corrections to offer.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Geo-Raris moves to approve the Journals just read. There being no objection, it is so ordered. Committee Reporks.
Senator Rauschenberger, Chair of Ehe Committee On Approprtations, reports Senate Bills 483, 484, 485, 486, 490, 491, 499, 500, 501, 504, 505, 882, 883, 884, 885, 1050, 1051, 1106 and 1107 Do Pass; and Senate Bills 502, 503 and 1052 Do Passy as Amended. STATE 0F ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April 18, 1995 Senakor Dunn, Chair of Ehe Committee on Higher Education, reports Senate Bill 7l8 Do Pass, as Amended. And Senator Woodyard, Chair of the Committee on Agriculture and Conservation, reports Senate Bills 584 and Do Pass; Senate Bills 543, 623 and 854 Do Pass, as Amended; and Senate Amendment 2 to Senate Bill 448 Be Adopted.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) The AP requests permission to -- to photograph the fession, and -- as does WICS-TV. IG there leave? Leave ts granted . Messages from the House.
A Message from the House by Mr. McLennand, Clerk. President I am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has passed bills of the following tltles, in the passage of which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senate, to wit: House Bills 667: 765, 1156, 2245 and 907. Al1 passed the House on March 24th, 1995. A like Message on House Bills 497, 859, 965, 1731, 1733, 385, 955, 1654: 1730, 1732: 1794, 2326, 2439, 2470, 398 and 410. All passed the House, April 5th, 1995. A like Message on House Bills 318, 614, 760, 781, 878: 1473, 1706, 1707, 1708, 892, 1474, 1810, 2226, 2332, 2343 and 2465. Al1 passed the House, April 6th, 1995. And a like Message on House Bills 178, 300, 753, 1004, 1108, 1258, 1398, 1596, 1721, 1793, 1842 and 2038. All passed the House, Aprll 7th, 1995.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Messages.
Message from the Secretary of State. 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SZNATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April l8, 1995 To the Honorable Members of the Senate, 89th General Assembly have nominated and appcinted the followin: named person to the office enumerated below and respeckfully ask concurrence in and confirmation of this appointment by yqur Honorable Body. Respectfullyr George H. Ryan, secretary of State. To the Honorable Members of the Senate, 89th General Assembly have nominated and appcinted the following named person to khe office enumerated belov and respectfully ask concurrence in and confirmaElon of this appointment by your Honorable Body. Respectfully, George H. Ryan, Sefretary of State.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) House Bills lst Reading. SECRETARY HARRYJ House Bill 5, offered by Senators Shadid and Garcia . (Secretary reads title cf bill) House Bill 4l, by Senator Mahar. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill -- or, by Senator Parker. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 385, by Senator Maitland. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bi11 398, by Senators Butler and Woodyard . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 410, by Senator Dillard. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 447, by Senator Maitland. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 548, by Senators Cronin and del Valle. (Secretary reads title bill) House Bill 583, by Senator Karpiel. STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April 1995 (fecretary reads Eitle of bi11) Hcuse Bill 589, by Senator Cronin. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bi1l 652, genator Parker. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 667, by Senator Berman. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 668, by Senator Cronin. (Secretary reads tltle of bill) Hause Bill 753, by Senator Maitland . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 620 <sic> (820), by Senator Maitland. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 854, Senator Sieben. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senatcr Dillard offers House Bill 878. (Secretary reads title of bill) House B1ll 892, by Senator Hawkinson. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 913, by Senator Dudycz. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 939, Senator Peterson. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1004, by Senator Butler. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1116, by Senator Dillard. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1119, by Senator DeAngelis. (Secretary reads title of bill) Hcuse Bill 1132, by Senator Parker. (Secretary reads title of bill) Hcuse Bill 1156, by Senator Walsh. STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April 18, 1995 i (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bi1l 1267, Senator Donahue. ' (Secretary reads title of bill) 1 l House Bill 1596, by Senator Walsh. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bilk 1792, by Senator Cronin. I (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1793, by Senator Karpiel. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1833, Senator Parker. (Secretary reads title of bill) Hcuse Bill 1854, by Senator Weaver. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2227, Senator Parker. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2245, by Senator Dudycz. (Secretary reads title of bill) And House Bl1l 2453, by Senator Maitland. (Secretary reads title of bill) lst Reading of the bills.
FRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Wocdyard has a special guest he would like to intrcduce to the Senate. Senator Woodyard.
Thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. I have with me today a very special guest, and you ought to feel very safe in the Senate today because my guest happens to be -- my guest happens to be the Director of the U.S. Marshal Servicer under Presiden: Clinton's Administration. His name is Eduardo Gonzalez. I Won't go into a bio background. 1'11 let him tell you a little bit about himself. But we are very pleased to have him in -- in Springfield today. And I noticed when he Was 5 L .. STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislattve Day April 18, 1995 introdueing himself to a group of community college kids this morning, he introduced himself as Eddie. So, I eould also introduce him as Eddle Gonzalez, from Washington, D.C., whyy llke him to say a few Words to the Senate. Thanp your Eddie. Welcome to Springfield.
(Remarks by Director Eduardo Gonzalez)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) On page 2 of the Calendarr on the Order of Senate Bills on 2nd Readtng: we will start on page 2 at the top. Any Senator wishing to move their blll, we'll go right down the list. Communications.
A Message addressed tc the Secretary of the Senate, State Houser Springfield. Dear Mr. Secretary - this office is forwarding herewith a copy of the notice of vacancy created ln the Office of Senator in the General Assembly fcr the 57th Legislative Distrtct as a result cf the death of Kenneth Hall. Also enclosed is the Democratic Legislative Committee Certificate of Appointment effeetive Aprll l3, 1995, and the oath of office for James F. Clayborne, Jr., 900 Martindale Lane, Belleville, Illinois, who Was appointed tc fill the vacancy in the OffLce of Senator in the General Assembly for the 57th Legislative District. Yours truly, George H . Ryan, Secretary cf State.
PRESIDENG OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) For what purpose does Senator Watson arise?
Yes. Thank you? Mr. President. Just a polnt of personal privileger sir.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) State your point, sir.
6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April 18, 1995 I'd like to take this opportunity to introduce a group whc 's visiting bere today and has been here mcst of the day and will be here this afternoonr as a clvics government history class from St. Elmo High School, which is located in Fayette County and -- and the teacher, Connie Lowe, is here with him. And I'd like for i them to stand and be recognized. They're in the President's Gallery behind you, Mr. President. We'd like to welcome them to i Springfield.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Wikl our guests pkease rise and be welcomed by the Senate. For What purpose does Senator Jcnes arise?
Personal privilege, Mr. President. l
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) State your pointr sir.
I'd just like for the Body to welcome the new Member from the southern part of the State, ''The Land of Milk and Honey'', a fine attorney, Senator Clayborne, who has just been sworn in yesterday a new Member of thls Body. So I want you all to neet him. Senator Clayborne.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Pleased to have you join us, Senator. On page 2 at the top of the page, Senator Rlemm, on Senate Bill 62? Ou* of the record. Senator Dudycz: on 100? Out of the record. Senator Peterson, on 1337 Out of the record. 134? Out of the record. Senator Raica, on 137? Out of the record. Senator Mahar, on... Out of the record. Eenator Sleben, on 336? Out of the record. Senator Fawell, on 3617 Read the btll, Mr. Secretary. SECRETARY HARRY: i Senate Bill 361. ! 1 (Secretary reads title of b1ll) 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April l8, 1995 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee cr Floor amendments: Mr. President.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 3rd Reading. Senator Cronin, on 4747 Out of the record. Senator Klemm, on 441? Out of the record . Senator Petersonr on 4727 Out of the record. Senator Thomas Dunn. Senator Thomas Dunn, on 5067 Out the record . Senator Fawell, on 5397 Out of the record . Senator Maitlands on 616? Senator Thomas Dunn, on 664? Out of the record. Excuse me. Senator Hasaray on 6407 Read the bill, Mr. Secretary.
Senate Bill 640. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Rêading of the bill. No commlttee amendments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Have there been any Floor amendments approved for consideratëon?
No further amendments reported, Mr. President.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Reading . Senator Fitzgerald, on 6957 Read the billz Mr. Secretary.
Senate Bill 695. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Insurance, Penslons and Licensed Activities adopted Amendment No.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Have there been any Floor amendments approved for consideration?
No further amendments reported. 8 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33:d Legislative Day April 1995
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 3rd Readtng. Senator Shadid: on 700? Out of the record . Senator Woodyard, on 728? 0ut of the record. Senator Hawkinson, on 782? Out of the record. Senator Maltland, on 808? Out of the record. Senator Fltzgerald, on 8117 Read the bill, Mr. Seeretary. SECRETARY HARRYI Senate Bill 811. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Pubkic Health and Welfare adopted Amendnene No . 1.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Have there been any Floor amendments approved for consideration?
No further amendments reported.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 3rd Reading. Senator Raica? Senator Geo-Karis, on 830? Read the bill, Mr. Secretary.
Senate 9111 830. (Secretary reads tttle of bill) 2nd Readtng of the bill. No committee or Floor amendments: Mr. President.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 3rd Reading. We're awfully noisy today. Could we have just a little quiet? Senator O'Ma11ey? Senator Barkhausen, on 8647 Read the billr Mr. Secretary.
Senate :i1l 864. (Secretary reads title of bikk) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Commlttee on Judiciary adopted 9 7- STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY I REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT i 33rd Legislative Day April l8r 1995 i MendmentNa.1. 1 i PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Have there been any Floor amendments approved for l conskderaEion? ' 1 ' j SECRETARY HARRY: No further amendments reported. SECRETART HARRY: 3rd Readinç. Senator Severns, on 869? Read the bill, Mr. Secretary. SECRETARY HARRY: Senate Bill 869. (Secretary reads tltle of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. Nc committee or Floor amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 3rd Reading. Senator Klemm, on 9517 Out of the record. Senator Rauschenberger, on 991? Out of the record. Senator Fawell: 1026? Read the bill, Mr. Secretary. SECRETARY HARRY: Senate Bi1l 1026. (Secretary reads tltle of bill) 2nd Reading of the btll. No committee or Floor amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 3rd Reading. Senator Fawell; on 10487 Read the bill, Mr. Secretary. SECRETARY HARRY: Senate Bill 1048. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Public Health and Welfare adopted Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Have there been any Floor amendments approved for consideraticn? 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislattve Day April 1995
No further amendments reported.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (EENATOR WEAVER) 3rd Reading. 1084. Senatqr O 'Ma119y? Read the bill, Secretary.
Senate Bill 1084. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee or Floor amendments.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 3rd Reading. Senator Severns, on 1095? Read the bill, Mr. Secretary .
Senate Bill 1095. (Secretary reads tltle of bill) 2nd Reading of the blll. The Committee on Publlc Hea1th and Welfare adopted Amendment No. 1.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Have there been any Flocr amendments approved for consideration?
No further amendments reported.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 3rd Reading. Senator Petka? Senator Petka, on 11007 Out of the record. Senator Dillard, on 1129? Out of the record . Eenator Rea, on 1194? Read the blll, Mr. Secretary.
Senate Bill 1194. tsecretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readlng of the bill. No committee or Floor amendments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 3rd Reading. On page 5, Senate Bills 3rd Reading. For what 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legtslatlve Day April l8, 1995 purpose does Senator Demuzio arise?
Thank -- thank you, Mr. President. want the record to reflect that Senator Shqdid absent today on government business. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVERJ The record will so reflect. Senator Butler, on Senate Bill 2l? Do you wish to call the bill? Out of the record. Senator Maitland, on Senate 3ill 50? Read the bill, Mr. Secretary.
Senate Bill 50. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Maitland.
Thank you very muchr Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Senate Bill 50 is a bill that would provide that regional superintendents shall assume office on December lstr rather than on the first Monday in August following their election. When the bill was introduced, we made it -- it pertained to currently seated regional superintendents. This b11l was amended to affect the regional superintendents who would run in four years, so it affected those who run tn the year 2002. It makes good sense, we believe, since they are county officers, to to take office on the same tlme as other county officers do. I know of very little opposition to this; and I Would seek your support.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Is there discussion? If not, the question lsy shall Senate -- excuse me. Senator Berman.
Thank your Mr. President. A question of the sponsor. My 12 I STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd LegislaEtve Day April l8y 1995 analysis indicates that the Illinois Association of Regicnal Superfntendents was opposed to the bill. Is that still the case? PRESIDING OPFICER) (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Maitland. SENATOR MAITLAND: Senator Berman, they were opposed to the bill as introduced because it affected the currently seated superkntendents. I have not heard from them. Tbis was -- tbis was *he concern that they had. I amended it to affect those who would be running in four years, so when they were running, they would knaw what kind of a term of offtce they were runnin: for. No one, to my knowledge, has gotten back to me on this lssuez and I assume theyfve withdrawn their opposition, certainly on that issue. The other concern they had was the fact that -- that it. .tmicrophone malfunctionl... PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Demuzio oh! Sorry. Jenator Maitkand. SENATOR MAITLAND: One of the other concerns that they had Was they -- they talked about the audit, they talked about the transfer of money. They have nothing to do with that anymore at all, in any way, shape or form. So that isn't even an issue any longerr as I uaderstand tt, Senator Berman. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Denuzlo. SENATOR DEMUZLO ; Thank you, Mr. -- Madam President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I don't -- I don't know if anybody's listeninqr but the fact is# is that We're attempttng to changg the Eerm of office. And I know it's a difficult proposition for the Voters WhO vote Cor regional superintendents and then believe that they take 13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Leqislative Day April l8, 1995 office about or on the same day that everycne else takes office. We have, for I don It know how many years now, allowed for the 1 completion of the school year before the regional superintendent takes office. As I understand it now, the term of the regional superintendent will be terminated on December the lst of 1998. Let me ask you, Senatcr Maitland, first of all: Why -- what is your notion in -- in changing this, number one? And number two, how long has the current elected system of dates for regional superintendents been in effect?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Thlnk we ought to listen to the discussion. Senatcr Maitland.
Senator, I -- I apologize. I -- I don't know whether I totally understcod all of -- or heard all of your question. But - - but 1et me indicate to you that back years ago it made -- it made very good sense to have the regional superintendent, although he or she was a county -- even though he or she was a county officery to have their terms coincide with -- With the school year. Such ks not the case anymore because of -- of a number of things that reglonal superintendents do differently. This was brought to me by a regional superintendent Who indicated to me that a new regional superintendent has absolutely nothlng and nc input into the portion of their -- of thetr budget that is controlled by the county board and that since everything else now Works on a -- on a county year, rather than a schocl year, it makes better sense for those Eerms to expire with the other county officers. They truly are county officers, and I believe this is a - - is a logical change.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Just a secondr Senator... I will ask a1l unauthorized people off the Floor. Take your discussions off the Floor. Sit down in your seats, please, so We can listen to this discusslon? Further 14 STATE OF ILLiNOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April 18, 1995 ; l discussion? Senator Demuzio. SENATOR DEMUZIO: Well, I don't quarrel with the notion as to whak took place in I the pasty but. in the partlcular instance where my regional E j superintendent represents now four counties - three new counties - and lt just seems to me that kt's confusing enough as it is. And I'm saying this on a serlous note, John, I'm just asking. It's confusing enough as it is for the term to begln after the school year, but it seems to me that it's probably the -- the best policy because of the certlfication and other kinds of things that the regional superintendent would -- is required to do, at least those who do not have -- at least those who have more than one county. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Maitland. SENANOR KAITLAND: He's either goin: to have to turn his volume -- I -- I cannot hear him, Madam President. I really can't. I apologlze . PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR DONAHUE) Wefve got a dlscussion going on, a debate between two Senators, and neither one can hear the other one talk. Nowr Senator Demuzto, Would you mind restating your question? And I would ask that the Senators be in your seats, and listen. SENATOR DEMUZIO: I -- Senator Maktland, I understand in the past where the regional superintendent Was, in fact, considered as a county official. In my particular instance, Howeverr nowr I have a regkonal superkntendent who has just now garnered three additional, new counties. I know it's confusin: enough for the voters as it ls, with respect to the neN term of office beginning : 1 after the school year, but it seems to me like it makes much more : sense because the fact that at that pointy they would be -- since I i they 're going to be recertifying teachers and that notion, it i 15 ' l .. . I STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL AGGEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislatlve Day April l8, 1995 : seemed to me like it make more sense. But perhaps you could -- I you indlcate that they have no functions whatsoever to do? I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) 1 I senatoç Maitland. i SENATOR MAITLAND: No -- no, I didn 't -- I didn't say thatr but I don't think on - - on teacher certtfication, tbe anniversary date of the reglonal superlntendent, frankly, makes -- makes any difference at all. I would -- I would say, Senatory khe other -- the other argument that did -- that Was -- was made - it was a mild argument - was one of concern that -- that -- that a superintendent who is thinking about the possibility of running for office for that same position - in other words, a school superintendent - that it -- there would be probably a slight advantage to them for the anniversary date to stay the same, but ge thlnk that the change, since the responsfbilityes of the regional superintendent have changed so dramatically, makes more sense, and the budget aspect is an important one, we believe. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there further discussion? Further discussion? Senator Maltlandv to close, The question is, shall Senate Bill 50 pass. Thcse in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting ls cpen. Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a1L voted who wlsh? Take the record. On that question, there are 41 Ayes, 9 Nays, none voting Present. Senate Bill 50, havlng received the requtred constltutional majority, is declared passed. Senator Raica, on Senate Bill 64? Out of the record. Senator Rauschenberger, on Senate Bill 78? Senator Raica, cn Senate Bill 80. Senator Dillard, on Senate Bill 124? Senator Wccdyard, on 141? Senator Garcia, on Senate Bill 147. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. ACTING SECRETARYHAWKER: 1 l 16 . (, STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April l8, 1995 i 1 ! Senate Bill 147. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Readlng of the bill.
PRESIDJNG OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senatar Garcia.
Thank you, Madam President. Senate Bill l47 came out of the Judiciary Committee by -- it was passed by an 11 to 0 vote. The bill amends the Circuit Court Act and the Assockate Judges Act by requirlng circuët court and associate judges designated by the chief judge of each circuit to attend an annual seminar on family violence issues. The Administrative Office of the Illinois Courts will conduct or arrange for the -- conduct the annual seminar. The bill also repeals the Circuit Court Judges Travel Expense Act, an Act which currently serves no useful purpose.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any discussion? Any discusslon? Seeing nonez the question is, shall Senate Bill l47 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 51 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. Senate Bill 147, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senator Cullerton, on Senate Bi1l k6l. Senator Cullerton, cn 161. Senatcr Syverson, on 169? Senator Syverson. Senator Welch, on Senate Bill 177. Senator Rauschenberger, on Senate Bill 182. Do you wish to -- have thls -- returned to 2nd Reading for the purpases of amendment? Senator Rauschenberger seeks leave of the 3cdy to return Senate Bill l82 to Ehe Order of 2nd Reading for the purposes of an amendment. Hearing no objection, leave is granted. On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 182. Madam Secretaryr are there any Floor amendments approved for consideration? 17 ' ) STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislattve Day Aprtl l8, 1995 ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER: ' k Ploor Amendment No . 2, offered by Senator Rauschenberger. . PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) I I Senator Rauschenberger. ' ' j SENATOR RAgscHENBERGER : 1 This is a clarifytn: amendment, which aceepted input from both 1 the ICC, as well as the Citizens' Utility Board, in dealing with -- With the disclosure and the communtcatton -- aklowed in the ICC. This -- it represents ongoing negotiatlons. I'd appreciate its adoption.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any discussion? Seeing none, a11 those in -- oh! Senator Welch.
I have a questlon of the sponsor, (f he 'd yield for a question.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Indicates he 'll yteldr Senator Welch.
Senator Rauschenberger, this bill allows for parties to a case before the Illinols Commerce Commisslon to talk directly with a judge or a commissioner without advising the other party. Is that correct?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Rauschenberger.
I'm -- I'm advised -- I'lL -- naybe we can save this for 3rd Reading. I'm advised by staff that I spoke to soon. We have an AmendmentNo.3,which isa furtherclartfication,but the short 1 ansWer to your question, Senator Welch: is, yes. And I'd like to I take this out of the record. I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) j 18 ' - .- ' r - - -. - STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Lesislative Day Aprll l8# 1995 Ou* of the record. Senator Hasara, an Senate Bill 192? Senator Hasara, on 192? Out of the record . Senator Trotter, on Senate Bill 203? Read the bill, Madam Secretary. ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER; Senate Bl1l 203. (Secretary reads title of bl11) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SEHATOR DONAHUE) Senator Trotter.
Thank ycu very much, Madam Presldent. Senate Bill 203 is identical to Senate Bill 1546, which passed out of the Senate last year 58 to 0. This year in committeer it -- it also went out unanimousky. What (t essentially does is require the Department of Public Aid to include in its annual report about the Healthy Moms and Healthy Kids program: data on the immunization rate of children in the program and the 1cw birth rate <sic>, as compared to statewide rates. We amended it ta include that if, in fact, the -- Mediplan Plus Plan is passedr that We continue With that report ln regards to the federal government also giving information to us. PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any discussion? Any discussion? Seeing noney the question is, shall Senate Bill 203 pass. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Opposedv Nay. The vottng ts open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have a1t voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that questlon, there are 54 Ayesr no Naysy none voting Present. Senate Bill 203, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senator -- DeAngelis, on Senate Bill 204? Out of the record. Senator DeAngelisr cn Senate Bfl1 212. Read the Bill, Madam Secretary .
19 ' j STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April l8s 1995 I I senate Bill 212. j (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Readëng of the bill. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeKNGELIS: Thank youy Madam President. Senate Bi11 2l2 is a bill that we passed previously. When we passed the tax caps, inadvertently it was determined by Bond Council that the aggregate extension -- aggreqate extension could not include debt service for bonding. This bill restores that part that allows that amount to be constdered part of the aggregate extension. Let me point out to you: This bill does not allow a park district to exceed the caps. What it does do: It allows them to add their debt service as part of tbeir aggreqate extension. In addition, therels an amendment for the city colleges of Chicago which Will allcw them to somewhat diminish the loss from a bad investment that was made by one of their officers. And I guess that's pretty much it. So, like to have your favorable support on Senate Bill 212. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any discussion? Any discussion? Seeing none, the questton ls, shall Senate Bill 2l2 pass. Those in favor W111 vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record . On that question, there are 51 Ayes, 3 Nays, none votin: Present. Senate Bill 212, having receivgd *he requtred constitutional majorlty, ls declared passed. Senator Maitland, on 253. Senator Ralph Dunn, on Senate Bill 263? Read the bill, Madam Secretary. ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Bill 263. (Secretary reads title of bill) 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT i 33rd Legislative Day Aprll 18, 1995 j 3rd Reading of the bill. I j PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATORDONAHUE) 1 Senator Ralph Dunn. SENATOR R. DUNN: Thank you, Madam Presldent, Members of the Senate. This is a bill that allows employees of the universities who get credit noW - - who allow their -- children of employees waivers of tultion at the university where they work, this Would allow the waiver to be applled to any school in the system , or any school in the State that -- that goes along with the waiver. Senator Hasara is a cosponsor of the bill, and I think she also Would like to speak on it, please. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DOSAHUE) Is there any discussion? Senator Maitland. SENATOR MAITLAND: Thank you very much, Madam President, Members of the Senate. Senator Dunn, I -- I just -- I knew this blll was out here and got caught a little bit off guard. This is an attempt to -- to broaden the tuition waiver policy - the fifty-percent tuition waiver policy - that we now have in the State. Rlght now: as I understand 1t, within governing bodies, the students if they have a parent that works at one of those three universities or cne of those five universities, can -- can receive a tuition -- a fifty-percent tuition Waiver at one of the other universities. Is that correct? This... PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator -- Senator Maitland. Senator Dunn. SENATOR R . DUNN: That's correct. This Would broaden it. It wouldn't give them any more tuition waivers, but they could go to another school if -- if those schools participate in the program. And I understand that this is suppcrted by the Board of Higher Education and SIU, 21 (j ' STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April 1995 and the University of Illinoisr I thinky is also in support. And lt was tbe Board of Governors and Board of Regents. We have amended them out and put in the other schools that are in the system. Sc, this is a voluntary thing for the schccls, as I understand so that they have to do they participate in it.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Maitland .
Again, Senator, for clarlty: An individual must work at one of the universities for a period of seven years. After that period, the sibling <sic> is permitted to go tuition waiver free, plus fëfty percent, to any one of the other -- that university or any one of the other senior universitles in the State. Is that correct?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Dunn
That's correct.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Maitland.
Okay. I just would -- would remind the -- the Body andy Senator, I'm probably going to oppose the bill. I -- -- know we have to make a change. We have a number of individuals who work within the -- the governing boards that have been changed. They had a prablem With thetr siblings Ksicl who are noW going to another universityr and think we have to resolve that part of the issue. But really have a concern about expanding this tuition waiver policy to -- to any one of the other eleven universities in the State.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) 22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April 18, 1995 I Further dlscussion? Senator Hasara. ' i j
Thank you, Madam President. I rise in support of Senate Bill 263. One thlng I think it does is give a 1ot more flexibility to I . the children of university employees. If you think about it, right now it's very difficult for them to pass up the opportunity of the tuitlon waiver, so they're pretty much locked in to the university in which their parent works. So , as Senatcr Dunn said, I do not see thls requiring a 1ot mcre waivers. I see it giving the students of the employees more flexibility in the unlversity that they Would attend. I Would ask for a favorable roll call.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Welch.
Yes. I had a questlon of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Indlcates he'll yield, Senator Welch.
Senator Dunn, do you have any estimate in how much money thls Will cost, hoW much money Will be lost by the universities for the cost of these tuition waivers? ' I
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Dunn.
This ls -- this is being done noW in the universities with their own employees in their own schools, and this would just broaden it out. As far as I know, it Wouldn't bring any neW people lnto *he system; iE would just allow Ehem to qo to the school of their choice, if it happened to be of another school. I don't thknk there's any -- wakvers don 't really cost money.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Welch. 23 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April 18, 1995
Well, Senator Dunn, could understand an individual had hts parents teachtng at somewhere like Eastern Illinots University and the son or daughter wanted to go to a really good school like Southern Illinois University in Carbondale. can understand that. What I don't understand is why we're changing the policy that we passed several years ago. The purpose behind allawing these waivers, as I understood it# was that the parents Were at the same university; the studenE Was golng there; their parents lived in the same town; it was convenience; it was support of the university the parent taught at. This totally changes the philosophy behind these tuition walvers. This a benefit, to me, that probably should be negotlated in a -- in the next salary round for these professors or these employees of the universlties. To me, we're giving something away for nothing that we probably could use tc keep costs down at the unlversity. We are going to be losing tuition money, because if an individual decides to go to the University of Illinois instead of the universtty Where his parents teach, today they would have to pay tuition. Under your bill, they wontt. That's a loss of revenue to the Universlty of Illinois. So, it seems to me, this is not a good idea . This is something we can't afford at this time, with a1l of the colleges and universities asking for more money from Springfield. So think we should vote No.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Thomas Dunn.
Thank you, Madam President. A question of the sponsor, please.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Indicates hedll yield, Senator Dunn.
24 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Leqislative Day Aprtl 18, 1995 Senator Dunn, maybe I didn't hear the answer, but eould you tell us what the current cost of the waiver system is?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Dunn.
Thank you, Madam Prestdent. I don't know as there's any cost estimates made available. This Would not increase the cost of what they're dolng now, except it would be portable. It would allow a student Who's going to Northern Illlnois Unlversity, if his parents work there and he's going tuttion free. he could transfer that down Southern, he Was so of mind and it Was all right With his parents and school that participated. So, don't think there's any added cost to thts. It just makes the tuitlon waivers flextble so that they could go to the schools of their choice. Doesn't add anything to the cost.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Dunny are you concluded? Senator Demuzio.
Senator Dunny let me -- let me pose this question to you. As as saw something recently in a chart of the tuition waivers that have been granted to university -- as I understand it' both inskltutional, as well as statutory Walvers, were somewhere in excess of over a hundred million dollars from the previous year. I -- I asked somebody to get me that charE. I don't know what it is. But over a hundred million dollars in tuitlon Waivers, both mandated and legislated, and that includes legislative schalarships. Fifty percent - how much Would that add now to the tuition waivers of the institutions that you 're attempting to Eo do thls for today?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Dunn.
STATE OF ILLINOTS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April 18y 1995 Thank you, Mr. President. As far as I know, this wouldnlt add anything to 1t. It might transfer it fram Southern Illinois at Edwardsville to Carbondale cr to the Dniversity of Illinois. doesn't necessarily mean there'd more scholarships or more tuition waivers. And as I understand: the hundred milllon dollars includes athlettc scholarships, minorlty scholarships and all Lhe other scholarships. If also just as an aside, I think that our legislative scholarships add about four million dcllars to to that hundred million dollars. I'd ask for a favcrable roll call, if there isn't any other questions.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Further discusston? Senator Demuzio .
- - I must tell you, in all fairness, didn't hear hardly any of that because Ehere's too much racket in herey and I would...
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Dunn.
Thank youy Mr. President. Senator Demuaio, as far as I know, this wouldn't add any neW money. This would just allow the kids who are gotng to gc one school to transfer to another school without adding more money to As I understand they have a hundred millton dcllars in tuition waivers that our figure shows ineludes athletic scholarships, minority scholarships, and all the other or, tuition waivers that they give at Ehe different schools in the State. further understand that our legislative tuition waivers that we give add -- is about four nillion dollars in that hundred million dollarsy as I understand PRESIDING OFFICERJ (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Demuzlo.
26 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislattve Day April l8r 1995 I guess asking is, ue pass this piece of legislatton, how does differ from what the universities can do now , and secondly, how many addttional individuals and what the cost would be for tuition waivers under this bill? PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Dunn.
I thought -- I tried to make it plain, Senator Demuzio. There wouldn't be any added costs. There shouldn't be. This is people now who are going to school where their parents work. If they want and suieable to the schools, Whyz they can go to another school instead of the school that their parents work. wouldn't be any added cost that I can see to be added onto it. It just transfers the -- it makes these tuition Waivers portable or -- so they can go someplace else.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Purther discussion? Senator Burzynski. Senator Demuzio. sorry, Senator Burzynski.
Based on that illustration, are you -- are ycu suggesting that a student at Southern Illinois University -- sorry - a person who works for Southern Illinois Universlty ls entltled -- and is entitled to a tuition waiver currently can send their child to Ehe University of Illinols under a tuition waiver? Is that what thls bill does?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Dunn.
That's right, Senator Demuzio, if they meet the requirements of the school and the school will have them.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Purther discussion? Senator Burzynski. Senator Burzynskir at 27 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day Aprll l8, 1995 Senator Dunn's microphone.
Thank you. Just as a point of clarification. Senator Welch asked a question a few mlnutes ago relative to tuition waivels now, and what this bill is really trying to dc is to ensure the students who are participating in tuition waiver programs, say, for instance, at a Regents schcol -- a Board of Re:ents sehocl, now they currently can have a tuition walver from Northern to ISU to Sangamon State. And what this bill is trying to do is to allow for that continuity for those types of studenks that are ln a kind of a Catch 22 w1th the change the new governance system . Same way with the Board of Governors.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Further discussion? Senator Palmer.
Thank you, Mr. President. had a question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Indicates he will yield, Senator Palmer.
Senator Dunn, I just Want a point of clarification. Our analysis says Hemployees of the university''. Does that mean employeesr cr is it llmited to faculty? heard one of my colleagues talk about those who teach there. just want to make Su re .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Sena tor Dunn.
Thank you, Mr. President. This means a1l of the employees of Ehe unlverslty, whether theylre thq janitor or the maintenance people, or they 're the professors. would be a1l the students -- a11 children of the -- of faculty and staff.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) 28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April 18, 1995 Further discussion? Senator Jacobs.
Thank you, Mr. Presldent, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Would the sponsor yield for a question?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Indlcates he yleldr Senator Jacobs.
Senator, don't have a lot of qualms with what we're doing here, but 1et me just ask a question. Whenever this was first introduced and we first started givlng scholarships to -- to offsprings of -- of the employees at State universities, what was the intent of that, and does this change that intent, if you know the answer to the first question? Because it would seem to me if our lntent is just to ensure that a11 employees of universities get a college edueation, then I agree with your bill. the intent was, as a -- as a collective bargaining issue, to ensure that those sibllngs <sic> could go to school at the school of their -- where their parents Were teaching and/or working, then that's another issue. So, if you have an answer to that, I'd like to know.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Dunn.
Thank you, Mr. President. Senator Jacobs, as far as knok, this Was not a collective bargaininî item. This is a perk that the universities decided was a good thlng for eheir employees, and maybe you'd call that a perk. I'n sure it's a perk, but whether tt's collectively bargainedr I dcn't think it was. This is a -- presently universities now can go to children of -- of *he employees can go to their cwn school, but this would allow portability: They could go to some other schaol, they so desired and the sehool took them and they had an agreement with 29 STATE OF ELLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd LegislaEtve Day April 18: 1995 them. So, doesn't add anything other than allow Ehe kid thatds going to one school to -- to go to another school for part of his edueation.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Further discussion? Senator Jacobs.
guess my question then just reiterakes itself; that if that was the intent that we just want them to go to to a State university, uhy did we not include thak in the flrst place? And is thts truly a dramatic change, or is a minor change, in -- in your opinion?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Dunn.
I truthfully don't know why we didn't do the firsE place. We should have. This just straightens out What we should have done several years ago.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Further discussicn? Senator Weaver.
Well, thank you, Mr. Prestdent. I stand in support of this legislatlon, and 1'11 tell you why. Basically, nonacademic employees working for higher education throughout the State of Illinois make probably ten to fifteen, twenty percent less than the same category Working for the State of Illinois here ln Springfield. It is a fringe benefit to these employees: but the portability of this would allow these students to gc to institutions that theydre not -- that they dre parents don't teach in or work for various reasons. And I think obvious that each -- each inski*ution has a certain mission and these kids have different ideas about wbat they want to do. think it's fair, and I I.d hope everyone uill suppor: i*. 30 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April 18, 1995
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Further discussion? Senator Hendon.
Thank you, Mr. President. rise in support of khis blll. think it's a very gocd bill. Sometimes a student just needs to be at a different campus than the parent and the parent needs the child to spread their uings. So I'd ask for a favorable roll call for this bill. think it's a good blll, and I'd support the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Is there further discussion? Senator Dunn, to close.
Thank you, Mr. President. In closing, Want to thank everyone for the debate on it, and I hope that explained it right. And while I maybe didn't say it in my earlier debate: both AFSCME and the and the IFT and those other people connected with the -- With the unlons certainly support the bill. know that. Thank you, and I appreciate an an Aye vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) The question is, shall Senate Bill 263 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have a1l voted who Wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that questionr there are 43 Ayes: 9 Nays, no Members voting Present. Senate Bill 263, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Commiktee Reports.
Senator Weaver, Chairman of the Committee on Rulesy reports that the followtng Legislative Measures have been assigned committees: Senate Amendment No . 2 to Senate Bill 354 - referred to *he Ccmmittee on Commerce and Industry; Senate Amendment No. 2 to Senate 9i11 640 - referred to the Judiciary Committee; Senate 31 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April l8, 1995 Amendments 2 -- Senake Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 758, Senate Amendment No. to Senate Bill 816, and Senate Amendment No. to Senate Bill 1080 referred to the Public Health and Welfare Committee; Senate Amendment No . 2 to Senatq Bill 398, Senate Amendment No. to Senate Bill 504, Senate Amendment No. Eo Senate Bill 1204, Senate Amendment No. to Senate Bill 885 Be Approved for Consideration.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Ladies and Gentlemen, Senate Bill 283. Senator Hendon? Read the bill, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 283. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Readin: of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Hendon.
Thank you, Mr. President. This bill -- thts bill ls the tow zone sign bill and all lt dces is requires that the words Htow zone'' on a tow zone sign on private property be in colors -- bright colors so the people can read them at night. It's simply to let the people of the State of Illinois beware that they parking in an area of which their vehicle may be towed: and I ask for a favorable roll call.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) rs there discussion? Sena*or Fawell.
Senatcr Hendon has worked very hard on thls blll. think he's got in good shape now, and I would suggest that we al1 vote Aye.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Further discussion? Further discussion? Senator Hendon, do 32 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day Aprll 18, 1995 you Wish to close?
I just ask for a favorable roll call, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate Senator Fawell for her support.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) The question isr shall Senate Bill 283 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The votin: is open. Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Madam Seeretary. On that question, there are 51 Ayes, 1 Nayy no Members voting Present. Senate Bill 283: having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 284. Senator O'Malley. Read th9 billr Madam Secretary .
Senate Bill 284. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Readin: of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator O 'Malley.
Thank you -- thank your Mr. President. Senate Bill 284 amends the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District Act to annex certain territory in Matteson into the MWRD. For background, these types of bills are requested by the property owners in crder to obtain sewer service. Annexation of property to the MWRD must be done by legislation. This bill would annex approximakely one hundred and forty-five acres of land which is contiguous property to the MWRD . I'd appreciate your support.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Is there disaussion? Is there discussion? The question is, shall Senate Bill 284 pass. Thcse in favor Will vote Aye. Opposedy Nay. The votin: is open. Have all vo*ed who wish? Have 33 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April l8, 1995 a1l voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that question, there are 57 Ayesr no Nays, no Members voting Present. Senate Bill 284, having received the required conçtitutional majorlty, is declared passed. Senate Bill 327. Senator Dunn. Read the billr Madam Secretary .
Senate Bill 327. (Secretary reads tltle of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Dunn.
Thank you, Mr. President, Menbers of the Senate. Senate Bill 327 provides the framework for the use of coal combustlon kith by-products generated in Illinois. One of the things it requires, that the Department of Transportation to foster, wherever economically feasible, safe -- and safe, the use of coal combustion by-products road buildin: materials; design specifications for areas such as beds, backfills, fills, trenches and embankment. This b1l1 is brought to us by the by the Citizens' Councll on Energy Resources. Supported by the Coal Association, United Mine Workers and the Pollution Control Board . Be glad to answer any questions and urge an Aye vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Is there discusston? Is there discussion? The question is, shall Senate Bill 327 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The vottng is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that question, there are 56 Ayes, no Nays, no Members voting Present. Senate Bill 327, havlng received *he required constitutional majorityr is declared passed. Senate Bill 338. Senator de1 Valle. Read the bill, Madam Seeretary . 34 i STATE OF ILLINOES 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION ' SENATZ TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislatlve Day April 18, 1995 1 ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER: : I Senate Btll 338. I (Secrebary reads title of b11l) I E 3rd Reading of the bill. i PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator del Valle. SENATOR dEL VALLE: Thank you, Mr. Presldent. Senate Bill 338 creates a seven-member Supreme Court Commlssion on Court Interpreters to study interpreter use and need in court prcceedinqs. The Commlssion shall make a final report to the General Assembly by 1/1/97, and there is a sunset provision in the btll for the abolishment of the Commlsston by 5/31/97. The purpcse of the Commisslon ts to make recommendations to lmprove the quality of court interpreters and to increase the access for non-English speaklng persons to the court system. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Is there discussion? Is there discussion? The question is, shall Senate Btll 338 pass. Those in favor Will voke Aye. Opposedz vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the recordr Madam Secretary. On that question, there are 53 Ayes, 1 Nay, l Member voting Present. Senate Bill 338, having received the required constitutional majortty, is declared passed. Senate Bill 368. Senator DeAngelis. Senate Bil1 388. Senator DeAngelis. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Bill 388. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator DeAngelis. 35 : . - ' STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April 18, 1995 SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you, Mr. President. 388 is a product of the Audit Commisslon. It removes a redundancy in the reporting systems. It i was . amended to ensure that tn the even: that that redundancy that ' I we're removing, the other party that's responsible does not do it, We go back to the old system. 1 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Istherediscussion? Istherediscussion? The-- I'msorry. 1 Senator Demuzio. SENATOR DEMUZIO: Is -- ls there some reasan to fear that there wilk not be an Inspector General Ln Ehe -- in the next budget fcr Mental Health? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) SenatorDeAngelis. j SENATORDeANGELIS: j Senator Demuzio, that amendment wasputintotakecareof j some fears from your side . PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Is there further discussion? F' urther discussion? The 1 question is, shall Senate Bill 388 pass. Those in favor w1ll vote ; Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? I Have a1l vcted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the i record, 1 MadamSecretary. Onthatquestion:there are 56 -- 57 Ayes, no Naysr no Members voting Present. Senate Bilk 388, having 1 received the required constitutional majority, is deèlared passed. Genate Blll 398. Senator Madigan, do you wish this bill returned to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendment? l Senator Madigan seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 398 ; to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendment. I beg your pardon. Out of the record. Senate Bill 431. Senator ! Sieben. Senate Bill 432. Senator DeAngelis? Senate Bill 433. I E Senator Barkhausen. Senate Bill 457. Senator Geo-Karis? Read 1 36 STATE OP ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April 18z 1995 the billy Madam Secretary. ! ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER : I i Senate Bill 457. ' ' (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rdReadinqoithe btlt . . j !
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) SenatorGeo-Karis.
1 Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, this is a bill to Central Management Services. Currently, the delays in paperwcrk and processing make it difficult for the CMS and agencies to conform with the 1aw certlfylng that an employee's been properly appointed before payroll vouchers go out. Thls bill Wouldchangethe1awtoconform tocurrentpracticeof certifylng 1 af*er payroll goes outr and it also provides that -- a clean-up amendment in it for the Governor's new Executive Ordery which reorganizes some agencies into the Department of Natural Resources, and I ask for a favorable vote.
PRESIDINGOFFICER: (SENATORMAITLAND) Is there discussion? Is there discussion? The question is, 1 shall Senate Bill 457 pass. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting ls open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted Who Wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? Take the record, I Madam Secretary. On that question, there are 56 Ayes, no Nays, no I . Members voting Present. Senate Bilt 457, havlng recelved the requlred constltutlonal majority, is declared passed. Senator de1 Valle: for What purpose do you rise, sir? SENATOR dKL VALLE: Point of personal privilege, Mr. President. ' 1 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) l State your point, sir. j I SENATOR dEL VALLE: 37 ( ' STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April l8, 1995 In the galleryr we have representatives from the Darwin, Mozart, Auburnr Nixon and Funston schools. I want to welcome them to Springfield.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLASD) Wculd our guests in the gallery please rlse and be recogntzed by the Senate? Welcome to Springfield. Senate Bill Senate Bill 538. Senator Collins. Senator Collins on the Flocr? Senate B1ll 542. Senator Watson? Senate Bill 549. Senator Fawell. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 549. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Fawell.
Thank you very much. This amends the Board of Hlgher Ed Act so that the community colteges will have their own board, whkch they presently have, but it Will be autonomous and -- by transferring the duties of the IBH to the Community College System -- Bcard . 1* has been approved by the Association of Community College Presidents and the Association of Community College Trustees. 1'11 be glad to answer any questions.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Is there dlscussion? Is there discussion? the question is, shall Senate Bill 549 pass. Those in favor will voke Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted Who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record: Madam Secretary. On that question, there are 50 Ayes, no <s1c< (2) Nays, l Member voting Present. Senate Bill 549, having recelved the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bil1 574. Senator Mahar. Senate Bill 582. Senator 38 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April l8, 1995 i I Carroll. Readthebill,MadamSecretary. ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER: l ! Senate Bill 582. (Secretary reads title of bil1) 3rd Reading of the bill. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) ' Senator Carroll. SENATOR CARROLLI Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Genate Btlk 582, I believer corrects a defect in the Illinois Crime Victims' Compensation Ac*. One of the few mistakes I made was probably leaving this one particular subsection out when I drafted that law many years ago. What it covers is the situation where a person is kllled by a hit-and-run driver. The fanily would then be allowed to go in, if we have this signed into law, and get compensation, lf appropriate, under the Crlme Victims' Act, for their funeral expenses, et cetera . We do allow it now under current 1aw for things like driving While under the influence, and for some strange reason, there has been interpretatlon *ha: if it's a leaving-the-scene incident, then the family was not capable of recovering. I believe it was strictly an error on our part. This legislation would correct the error. I had this situation with a famlly in my district where the mother was killed in a hit-and-run accident - clearly a crimknal act, as determined by the police departments involved - and yet, they ' could not obtain funding under the Crime Vlctims' Act for the burial expenses. I would ask fcr a favorable roll call and answer any questions. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Is there discussion? Is there discussion? The question is, shall Senate Bill 582 pass. Those Ln favor will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have I 39 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day Aprll l8, 1995 ; ! a1l voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the recordr 1 . ! Madam Secretary. On that question, there are 57 Ayes, no Nays, no i Membersvoting Present. Senate Bill 582, having received the 1 required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 597. Senator Bowles. Senator Bowles, 5977 No. A1l right. Senate Bill 606. Senator Syverson? Read the billr Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 606. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Syverson.
Thank you, Mr. Presidene. Senate Bilk 606 is a -- is a bill requested by the Illinois Hea1th Facllitles Planning Board. It just makes technical changes. I know of no opposltion and would ask for a favorable roll call.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Is there discussion? Is there discusslon? The question isr shall Senate Bill 606 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, Hay. The votlng is open. Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voted Nho Wish? Take the Eecord, Madam Secretary? On that question, there are 56 Ayes, no Nays: no Members voting Present. Senate :i11 606, having received the required conskitutlonal majority, is declared passed. Eenate Bill 625. Senator O 'Malley. Senate Bill 626. Senator Mahar. Senator Mahar? 6267 Senate Btl1 629. fenator Mahar? Read the bill, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 629. (Secretary reads title of bill) 1 40 ) ' STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April l8, 1995 : 3rd Reading of the bill. I PRESIDINGOFFICER: (SENATORMAITLAND) 1 ' Senator Mahar. SENATOR MAHAR; Thank your Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Current -- currently, permtt applications for sanitary landfill operations are two years. This btll Would move that permittin: process to khree years, tf it's only for sanitary landfills. And the justlfication for thîs is that more knformation is requtted under the new Subtitle D regulations. In addëtion to thatr retaikers who have factlities where they store over five hundred tires on a site have to fill out paperwork for a tlre storage site. Thts would be applications such as Sears. By this that would -- that threshold would go from flve hundred to thirteen hundredr so they would not have to be included under the tire stcrage site application process.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Is there discussion? Senator Welch.
I have a question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) He indicates he w11l yield, Senator Welch.
Senator Mahar, we've had two years for a long time: as being the amount of time your perml: is good for, and now you want to extend it to three. Why should we extend it to three years? With two years, the -- there is sufficient time - if the company is willing to go ahead and expedite their geoloqical testing - there's enough time for the community to get together and support or oppose kt. By drawing it out to three years, it's gclng to be used to dampen down any opposlElon, IE would seem to me and try to let people forget that there Was a permtt even issued. Shat's the 41 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR FESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT a3rd ceqlslative Day April lg, 1995 i 1 reason? 1 PRESIDINGOFFICER: (SENATORMAITLAND) 1 SenatorMahar. 1 SENATOR MAHAR: . No , this is -- this is after the siting process. This is before a permit has been issued. And besides, we just passed the Subtitle D requirementsr I think, last year. i PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) j Furtherdiscussion? Furtherdiscussion? Senator Mahar, to 1 close. The question is, shall Senate Bill 629 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed , Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 ' voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who I wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that question, there are 50 Ayes, no <stc> (2) Nays, 3 Members voting Present. Senate 1 ; Bill 629, havin: received the required constitutional majority, is i declared passed. Earlier, Senator Mahar was called off the Floor. I I W1th leave of the Bodyy We Will return to Senate Bill 574. Read the bill, Madam Secrebary. ' j ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER: k Senate Bill 574. I I (Secretary reads title of bill) I ! 3rd Readin: of the bill. PRESIDING OFFICER I : (SENATOR MAITLAND) 1 . Senator Mahar. SENATOR MAHAR: Yes, thank youy Mr. President. Senator -- Senate Bill 574 adopts the provisions of the federal underground storage tank lender liability rule proposed by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. The bill is designed to make credit mcre available, thus aiding the fmplementation of tank upgrade requirements. The federal EPA has encouraged states Eo adopt this - - thesestatutoryprovisions.ThisbillpassedtheSenate Energy j 42 L- - - - - . ....-. - -... . ' STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SEGEION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day Aprtl l8, 1995 and Environment Committee unanimously and is supported by the i Community Bankersr *he Illinois Petroleum Marketers ' Association, 4 I the Illinois Petrcleum Council, and the Illlnois Bankers I
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Is there discussicn? Senator Watson. SENATOR WATSON; Thank you, Mr. President. There's nothing that concerns me more than when we get up and talk about underground tank legislation. There's no more overkill in this country than what welve done to the little guy out there who Was provldlng gasoline to the rural communlties of this State, When we -- When we -- not we, but Congress implemented the Onderground Tank Law. Howr I -- 1'm not sure where this is going, but if we dre spendin: more money or we're requiring more regulation or we 're giving the EPA more authority, then this is the wrong direction to head . And I'd like to ask the sponsor to respond to that concern.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) He indtcates he will yield: Senator Watson. Senator Mahar.
Thank you, Mr. President. No. This is just exactly the opposite of that. This will allow the lenders to provide more -- more capital to gas stations who wish to borrow the money, and under current law, it's very difficult for the bankers to engage in that. So, this -- the USEPA -- there's no regdlations involved here. This is a -- a common-sense approach, I thlnky to lènding to the little guy.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Further discussion? Senator Demuzio.
Senator Watson, you're absolutely right. We've got a1l these littlepeoplea11overthe State of Illinois who bought these 1 43 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day Aprll 18, 1995 1 filling stations, turned them lnto houses, got -- got out of the gas business. They're stuck wlth the tanks. They have the liability. They can't get out from underneath them anywhere, But ncw we're going to let out a1l of those financial institutions who lent money, wlth no liabllity? What are we dcing here? We ought to be -- we ought to be looking out for that little guy who 's in a small community who got stuck with a11 these tanks and who's now gcing bankrupt in order to have to figure out how he 's going to get them out of the ground, pay all the money, take all the -- make all the tests and get somethinç from the Department of EPA that says that they 're clean. Why -- if We ire gotng to let these guys outr why don't we let the little guy out tao? He 's the one who got stuck wlth the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Further discussion? Senator O'Danlel.
Thank your Mr. Presidentr Members of the Senate. I rise in support of this. I think the previous speaker is -- isn't totally informed of what this really does. Xou know, right now the little guy, if he's got a station or something, there's no way he can bcrrow a penny on -- on that properLy. Banks or anyone won 't loan him any money, because when he bought that station, he also bought the liabllity; that -- when the majors sold these stations to these little quys, they also sold the liabllity and the responsibility, and as a result of that, they -- they can't borrow a penny. And I Ehink this just helps them be able to borrow a little money to operate on. And I think it's somethin: -- a step in the right direction.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Further discussion? Further dlscussion? Senator Maharr to close. The question 1s, shall Senate Bill 574 pass. Those in favor wlll vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 44 . y . ' STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY 1 REGULAR SESSION . SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Leqlslative Day April l8r 1995 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that questlon, there are 39 Ayes, 6 Nays, 10 Members voting Present. Senate Bill 574, having recelved the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 645. Senator Raica. Senate Bill 650. Senator Watson. I'm -- I'm sorry, Senator Raica. Senate Bill 645. Senator Raica. Read the billr Madam Secretary . END OF TAPE TAPE 2 ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER: . .. 645. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Ralca. SENATOR RAICA: Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senate Bill 645 amends the Criminal Code and the Illinois Police Training Act by permitting retired peace officers, who meet certain conditions and have a valid FOID card and driver's license and who have completed a flrearms qualification and certificatlon training program , to obtain a concealed weapons identification from the Local Governmental Law Enforcement Officers' Training Board and, subsequently, carry concealed firearms on their possession or in Eheir vehicle. This was worked on by Senator Dudycz, Senator Shadld and the Illinois Pollce Trainlng Boardr ln cocperation with the Illinols State Police. And I just ask for 45 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April 18, 1995 everyone's suppcrt.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Is there discussion? Is there discussion? The -- Senator Demuzio.
Well, I think wedre moving a little fast here. May I inquire of the Senator, it may fairly well be proper for a retired person who has been in law enforcement for X numbers of years and meet the qualifications that you have indicated that they must meet under this bill in order to be eligible to carry a firearm , but ) can you indicate to me who is llable, who is responsibler in the event that there is some event: or wrongful act, or whatever? NOW, we require, as -- as remember, private detectives in thts State to have a milllon-dollar bond of some sort if they are carrying a concealed weapon, along with kheir lieensing criteria. But something goes haywire here, who -- who is responsible? Who ls liable?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Raica.
Thank you, Mr. President. Senator Demuzioz since thls individual is a retired police officer, and technically when he is retired, he is a just a civillan, the individual is responsible and not the local municipality that the tndividual came from .
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Demuzio. SENATOR DEMUZIO; Well then, wouldn't lt sound and make some sense then to have some requirenent in here also that requires them to post X numbers of dollars of insurance liabiltby in case they make Ehe Wrong decision, make ehe wrong move? mean, that person could be 46 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSTON SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April l8, 1995 retired on the minimum pension, for example, and make the wron: decision wlth respect ko thls what what's in this bill, and then the person to which the -- the event or the deed happens wouldn't have any reeourse Lo get any type of flnancial -- recourse. mean, -- you follow khat I'm saying? In other words, I just don't understand that we are allcwing these indlviduals, where we have private detectives to do the same thing, meet the same criteria, but we're not requiring them to have any type of liability insurance. -- I just -- just have some difficulty with this.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Further discussicn? Senatcr Mclaro.
Thank you, Mr. President. Will the sponsor yleld for a questlon?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Indicates he will yteldr Senatcr Molaro.
Is there an age limit in yaur bill? So, in other Words: if a retired police officer reaches a certain age, Will he be required to turn his gun 1n?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Raica.
Senator Molaror there is nc age restriction on this partlcular piece legislation. When Senator Shadid and Senator Dudycz, myself and the other governmental agencies metp it Was felt that because of the fact that they would own a FOID card, first, and secondly, that they have a current Illinois driver's license as you knowr the Secretary of State 's Office actually renews driver's llcenses quite often. If for some reason the individual lost driver's license, either because of medication or because of his 47 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April 18, 1995 eyesight, obviously he would not be able to carry a weapon. Secondly, the Illinois Police Training Board is -- are qualifying these individuals, or they Would receive a waiver in order to carry this concealed weapon. So that was the precaution measures that was put in, as far as age, 'cause was felt, exactly at what age do you put down that this individual would not be able to to have a weapon.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Molaro.
If the sponsor Would yield, 1'11 -- 1'11 ask two questions together, so we don't have to go back and forth. First one is# is there an age that you 're aware of -- mandatory age retirement for police officers? Second thing I would then ask 1s, are the -- are these retired police officers who dc request this gun and are given it, to be concealed, are they going to be given identificatlon or badges or stars to go along with them , or are they just going to keep the -- the -- the -- the weapcn? And the third thing is, on -- when they go for this training -- there's never a problem with training someone how to use a gun - as we al1 knowr too sadly, lt's very easy to learn how to shoot a gun. The biggest question when giving these people guns, or anybody else - and I know there's going to be some companion bill coming out in a couple of days is when to use it. Does this training continue to teach these officers, as society changes, 'cause they haven't been a pclice officer for ten or fifteen years, as to -- not how to use a gun 'cause that's easy to learn, but does have classes as to when to use a gun? And those are the three questions. Thank you.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Raica.
48 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April 18, 1995 Thank you, Mr. President. The first answer would probably be no. The second answer, as far as the weapons are ccncerned -- Was ehat regarding -- Welle 1et me answer the last one, as far -- the police officers are trained and they have their education and their skills and certified as police officers or as peace officers and are Very familiar with deadly force. Sor that particular case -- these are police offieers. We're not talking about someone who goes into a -- a gun store and now goes to a gun class and we're asking him to carry a concealed weapcn. Sor as far as I'm concerned, these are professional 1aw enforcement indtviduals who have been in law enforcement for 15 years. The answer to your second question, Senator Molaro, is that the Illinois Police Training Board has -- will be givlng these individuals waivers or a certiflcate showing that they have -- number one, have a FOID card; two, have a driver's license; and three, have successfully completed a qualifications class as determined by the Illinois Police Training Board. But I would like to remind Senator Molaro that, as far as the star is concerned, if an individual retires from -- for -- from a particular municipality or agency, nine times out of ten they're given a star. However, this does not say that they're peace officers. This merely says is that Ehey were peace officers and they're allowed to carry a concealed Weapon. So, as far as making arrests, the only arrest they'd be able to make is as a civilian and not that of a police officer.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Further discussion? Senator palmer.
Thank you, Mr. President. A question of the sponscr.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Indicates he yieldr Senator Palmer.
Senator Raica, my analysis says Ehat several other states 49 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April l8, 1995 allow the rettred officers tc carry ueapons and I wondered if you have any informatton about their experiences, especlally as far as safety, as far as a number of the questions that have been raised about why we should allow retired officers to carry guns?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Raica.
With the permission of the Chair, would like to answer Senator Palmer's first question. And as far as the rettred police officers, the reason whyr I'd like to divert to my colleague, Senator Dudycz. In -- in respect to your first questionr Senator Palmer, the states that currently have peace officers or retired peace officers that do carry weapons, none of them have revoked their law. However, I don't have any statistlcs on anything as far as if any of them have been involved in some type of altercation since they fve had the weapon approved by their -- by their legislative bodies. So that would be the ansWer to the flrst first question and -- and, Mr. President, T'd like to yield to my colleague, Senator Dudycz.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Further discussion? Senator Dudycz.
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. thank you, Mr. President. I have, in the past, reslsted this Eype of legislatlon because I because I1m not sure wasn't sure whether it was proper, for a time when we were trying to get early retirement for police officers: to allow them to carry weapons - we would be sendin: the wrong message out. Since then, have been approached by members of the ATF, the FBI and other law enforcement agenciesr b0th local and natlonal, have explained to me the situation and scne personal experiences that they have had in dealing With people they have imprisoned at times; that some of those -- at times, some of those 50 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April l8, 1995 people Who have been in prison have come out and have actually sought those police officers wlth weapons, have accosted them and at times have -- have flred a weapons at them . There is a real fear by the police officêr who retires that somg of the people, some of the hundreds, if not thousands, of people -- or one of the hundreds or thousands of people that may have arrested and placed in the penitentiary may be camëng aut there after hkm . Scme of the safeguards that have been worked out have remcved my objection and I'd like to briefly go -- explain some cf them. This -- for each one of these officers who is retired and seeks the permission to carry a weapon for -- for self-protection only. It has nothing to do with powers of arrest or or dealing with insurance. H1s liability, in ln that respect, would be as a personal citizen. The -- the use of the weapon would be only for his protection and that of his loved ones. The plus he would have to renew this -- this permission from the State once a year. In order for him to be qualified, he must have been a graduate of a police training institute or an academy who served at least 15 years as a sworn police officer full-time police officer - who was qualified to carry a firearm, and that includes a11 federal; State and local 1aw enforcement agencies. And he must be a retired police officer whose service Was honorably terminated through retirement or through disabilityy and not through a result of discipline or some other sort of discharge. And he also has to -- like Senator Raica said, he must be able he must possess a current FOID card and a driver's license. The driver's license being because in order to naintain a driver's license, you must have certain abilities and khat's to be able to drive a notor vehicle and to be able to see with your eyesightr and those provisions have been included. And also, finally, someone Who has completed a fireman -- a firearm qualification and certifica*ion course, which is required by the Local Governmental 5L STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April 18, 1995 Law Enforcement Officers' Training Boardr for -- for active officers withln the last monthy so the -- so the retired officer who -- who gets this permissicn must have received the training and. he must be recertified once every year. And I would just -- ; i with those provisionsy that has removed my objection to it.. And I I think that these officers, who -- Who -- who served the public and give many, many years of their lives protecting us, deserve the right to protect themselves from of the unsavory characters that may accost them ln the future, in their retirement days.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Ladies and Gentlemen, we're going to go until 2:30. This is a very important bill. Fcr some reason, the noise level here is very high today. Please, if you must carry on your ccnversations, talk closely to one another so that your voice doesn't carry. It's very difflcult for the speakers to hear. Senator Hendon.
Thank you -- thank your Mr. President. I -- I rise in strong support of this bill. Think it is a -- a good bill. There have been a number of police officers who came to me, and I talked to Senator Dudycz about this last year. And after they make an arrest and send someone away who deserves to be put away for twenty yearsr this person comes back after these officers. They come back and they -- they terrorize them, they -- they threaten them, they try to get them back. And if ycu 're out there putting away dope dealers and -- and armed robbers and murderers, then you should have the right, after you retire, to protect yourself. Someone mentioned the companion bill, similar bill that's comin: up. I'm goin: to vote for that one toor because we have a right, law-abiding citizensr to protect our lives. So do these police officersr and I urge -- urge an Aye vote. Many black officers also have come to me about harassment that they've received from other people after they have retired who didn't like the fact that 52 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April 18, 1995 they rose up throuqh the poliee ranks. So I urqe an Aye vote for this very good bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Further discussion? Senator Jacoès.
Thank your Mr. Presldent, Ladies and Gentlemen the Eenate. I -- would the sponsor yield for a question?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Indicates he W1l1 yieldr Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACOBS; I guess I'm recelving mixed signals here. We 're saying we're doing this because a police officer who makes arrests may have someone come after them in their retired years. But yet, at the same time, we're saying, however, that certain offlcers Who may have been disciplined for something that may not have anything to do with -- with use of firearms, does not have that same right to prctect himself or herself. That appears, to me, to -- to f1y in the face of the argument that we're tryinq to protect these pcllce officers for what they have done. And I'd just like to have some sort oe response of clarificatlon on that: because just appears to me -- appears to be contradictory.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Raica.
Thank ycu. Thank you, Mr. President. Senator Jacobs, the -- I Ehink the key word would not be Hdiscipllne'' this spectfic legislation; however, ''dischargei'. This is not saying that an individual who has been disciplined cannot carry a weapon when he 's retired in other words, lf an individual's been suspended for fkve days or ten days; however, if tbe individual's ccnduct led to a dtsmlssal or a firing or termination of that individualr it was felt by the professional law enforcement here this 53 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April l8, 1995 Chamber Senator Shadid, Senator Dudycz, the Illinois Police Training Board and the State Police - that we ought not allow a police offieer who, for lack of a better term, may have been discharged because of a felony, carry a weapon. So the safeguard was pu* in if this individual had left the pollce department on good terms, or retlredr or in some instances: a disability, those would be the provislons in which this indivîdual can earry a concealed weapon, and not an individual who was discharged or dismissed because of disciplinary action.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Jacobs.
still have a problem with discharge. There 's a 1ct of reasons that a police officer can be discharged, many of which would not really influence whetber tbat person has viclated any of the rules of carrylng a weapon. That person ts no less threatened than the person who may not have done what that officer did to be discharged. As an exampler there's a casez thinkr just up in the suburbs where an officer was caught in a police car having an affair with his girlfriend. That police officer was discharqed. Now, does that officer has any less risk of being attacked by someone he or she may have arrested? Or on the other hand, lf they -- -- if that is all they've done, does *hat disqualify them from betng able to carry weapon after they're retired, or after retlre, discharge, or whatever the case may be? get hunq up on the retkrement and the dlscharge lssue.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Was -- was that a questlon. Senator Jacobs? Was that a statement? Okay. Thank you. Further discussion? Purther discussion? Senator Raica, you wlsh to close, sir?
Thank you, Mr. President. Senator Dudycz just mentioned to 54 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY , REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day APr11 l8, 1995 me, Senate Bill 1129 will becoming before this Body, which would allow all citizens to carry a ccncealed Weapon thraughout the State of Illinoks. And, Senator Jacobsr that may answer your -- your question regarding police offlcers who have been terminated or discharged for discipllnary reasons. However, because this Body has always acted in the highest tradition as far as 1aw enforcement officers are concerned, it was felt better, by the sponsors, that we leave qthis in its pristine form ln allowing someone who is a retired police officer: in gcod standingsr and left the department in good standings, rather than an individual who left because of discipline reasons. This is an important blll to police cfficers retired and those going to be retired throughout the State of Illinois: and I wculd just ask for your support.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) The question is, shall Senate Bill 645 pass. Those ln favor will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that questicn, there are 43 Ayes, 8 Nays, no Members voting Present. Senate Bill 645, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 650. Senator Watson? Senator Garcia, for what purpose do you arise, sir?
Thank you, Mr. Presldent. 0n that last vote, I -- I -- pressing the Button, iE didn't regkster. I intended Eo Be recorded as voting Aye. Thank you.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) So notedz Senator Garcla . Senator -- Senate Bill 681. Senator Syverson. Senator Syverson? Senator Syverson? SenaEe Bill 689. Senator Raica . Read the bill, Madam Secretary.
55 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April 18, 1995 Senate Bill 689. (Secretary reads tltle of bil1) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Raica.
Thank you, Mr. President. Committee Amendment No. l becomes *he b111 and creates the position of divislon chief of dental health within the Department of Public Hea1th. requires the Department to select a licensed dentist to serve as the division chief. Basically, Mr. President and Members of the Senate, the 1aw is going to -- guessr is gcing to sunset or change, and there's a possibllity that a hygienist or some other indivldual may take charge of this position. And Was felt by *he denkists throughout the State that an individual -- one of their peers serve in this posltion, as it currently sets, and that's a1l this b111 does.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Is there discussion? Is there discussion? The question shall Senate Bill 689 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The votlng open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voted vho wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that question, there are 55 Ayesr no Nays, no Members voting Present. Senate Bill 689, having received the required constituticnal majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 703. Senator Tom Dunn. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.
Senate Bill 703. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Dunn. 56 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd LeglslaElve Day April 18, 1995 !
I SENATOR T. DUNN: Thank you, Mr. President. This bill Nould provide that if a business received a hlgh lmpact business investment credit or a real property tax abatement from a taxing district and then moved out of that area before the term of the agreement was ccmplete, that that company would have to pay back the investment tax credit back to the taxin: district. It passed ouE of Revenue 10 to ncthing. I urge an Aye vote. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Is there discussion? Is there discussion? The question is, shall Senate Bill 703 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted Who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the recordr Madam Secretary. On that question, there are 56 Ayes: no Nays, no Members voting Present. Senate Bill 703, having received the requlred constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 717. Senator Ralph Dunn. Read -- read the bill, Madam Secretary. ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER : Senate Bill 717. (Secretary reads tltle of btl1) 3rd Reading cf the bill. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Dunn. SENATOR R. DUNN: Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Senate Bill 763 would allow employees of the Department of Corrections Who leave -- leave -- Whoop . Excuse me. I'm -- wrong one -- don't want that one. 717. Out of the record. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Out of the record, Madam Secretary. Senate Bill 739. Senator Butler. Senate Bill 746. Senator Raica. Read the billy Madam Secretary. 57 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April l8, 1995 ' ;
senate Bill 746. I (Secretary reads tltle of bl1l) 3rd Reading of the bill. '
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Raica.
! Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senate Bill 746 amends the Department of Public Aid Act - - or Public Hea1th Act. It permits the Department of Public Health to isolate a person or quarantine a place to prevent the probable spread of a dangerously contagious or infectious disease, including the noncompliant tuberculosis patlent, until such tlme as the condition can be corrected or to -- danser to the public health eliminated. As you know, there's been a great rise in tuberculosis, and this was requested by health care professionals and supported throughout the State. And I just ask for your suppork.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Is there discussion? Is there discussion? The question is, shall Senate Bill 746 pass. Those in favor Will vote Aye. ' Opposed, Nay. The voting is cpen. Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that question, there are 56 Ayes, no Naysr n9 Members voting Present. Senate Bill 746: havlng received the required constiEutional majority, is declared passed. Senator Dudycz, for What purpose do you arise, sir?
Thank you, Mr. Fresident. Just checking the microphone, 'cause the other one was malfunctioning. Thank you.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Committee Reports. 58 . y . ' STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Legislative Day April l8, 1995
! Senator Butlery Chairman of the Committee on Commerce and ! Industry , reports Senate Bills numbered 620 and 793 Do Pass; and ! : Senate Bills numbered 320, 768, 777, 1205 and 1706 Do Passz as Amended. i
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Resolutions.
Senate Joint Resolution No. 40, offered by Senator Severns. It is substantive. Senate Resolution 43, offered by Senator Jones and all Members. Senate Resolution 44, offered by Senator -- Senator Hasara and a11 Members. Senate Resolution 45, offered by Senator Shaw and al1 Members. Senate Resolutlon 47, offered by Senator Weaver. And Senate Resolution 48, offered by Senator Weaver. Theydre a11 death resolutions.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Consent Calendar. House Bills lst Reading.
House Bill 23, offered by Senator Watson. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 153, offered by Senators Peterson and Thomas Dunn. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 610, offered by Senator Peterson. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bklt 1258, offered by Senator Sieben. (fecretary reads title of bill) And House Bill 2343, offered by Senator Woodyard. (Secretary reads title of bill) lst Reading of those House Bills. 59 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Leglslative Day April l8, 1995
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Rauschenberger, for what purpose do you arise, sir?
For purposes of an announcement.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MATTLAND) State your point.
The Senate Appropriations Commiktee will meet immediately upon adjournment of the Chamber. I would please urçe a1l Members, both Republicans and Democrats, to go immediately tc 212. A number of Members have commitments for 5 o'clock and 5:30, involving ceremonies. So we'd like to begin as -- as soon as possible. Thank you.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Cronin, for what purpose do you arise, sir?
For purposes of an announcement.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) State your announcement.
Thank you. The Senate Education Committee will meet at 3 p.m . - - 3 p.m ., rather than 2. Thank you.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Fawell, for what purpose do you arise?
Thank you very much. Por purposes of an announcement. The Transportation Committee Will meet immediately after adjournment in Room 400.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Thank ycu. Any further discussion? Any further business to come before the Senate? If notr Senator Weaver moves that the Senate stand adjourned until 12:30 p.ma, Wednesday, April 19th. 60 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 33rd Leglslative Day April l8r 1995 Senate is adjourned. 61 D REPQRT: TIFLDàY STATE OF ILLINOIS 96/09/11 PâGE: 001 89TH GEPERAL ZSSEHBLY 16:18:36 SENATE DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX APRIL 18, 1995 HB-0005 FIRST READIMG H8-0023 FIRST READING HB-0041 FIRST READING HB-0153 FIRST REâDING HB-0377 FIRST READING H8-0385 FIRST READING H8-0398 FIRST READING HB-0R10 FIRST READING HB-0VkT FIHST READING HB-0548 FiRST READING H8-0583 FIRST READING H8-0589 FIRST READING HB-0610 FIRST READIMG H8-0652 FIRST READIMG HB-066T FIRST REZDIVG HB-0663 FIRST REâDING HB-0T53 FIRST REâDING HB-0820 FIRST REZDING H8-0854 FIRST HEADING H8-0878 FIHST READING H8-0892 FIRSI REâDING HB-O913 FIRST REZDING H8-0939 FIRST READING HB-100y FIRST REâDING HB-1116 FIRST REâDING HB-1119 FTHST READING HB-1132 FIRST READING HB-1156 FIRST REàDIMG HB-1258 FIR8T REZDING H8-1267 FIRST READING H8-1596 FIRST REàDING HB-1T92 FIRST REâDING H8-1793 FIRST READING H8-1833 FIRST READING HB-185V FIRST REâDING H8-2227 FTRST PEADING H8-2245 FIHST READING H8-2343 FIRST REâDING H8-2453 FIPST PEZDING SB-0050 THIRD READIMG SB-OIRT THIRD REâDING 53-0182 RECALLED :8-0:82 QUT OF RECORD 58-0203 THIRD READING SB-0212 THIRD REâDIMG :a-0263 THIRD HEADING 58-0283 THIRD READING SB-028M THIRD READING 58-0327 TMIRD REZDING 58-0338 TH:PJ READING 58-0361 SECOND READING 58-0388 ?dfR9 REâDING SB-0k57 THIRD READIMG SB-05k9 THIRD READING 3B-05TB THIRD REâDING s8-0582 THIRD READING SB-0606 THIRD READIVG 58-0629 THIRD REâDING sB-06#0 3ECOMD READING s8-0645 THIRD READIMG 58-0689 THIRD READING 58-0695 SECOND REZDING SB-0703 THIRD REZDIMG SB-OTIT THIRD READING REPOHT: TIFLDâY STATE 0F ILLINOIS 96/09/11 PAGE: 002 89TH GEMERZL ZSSEMBLT 16:18:36 EENATE DâILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBZTE INDEX âPRIL 18, 1995 SB-OTIT OgT OF HECORD PâG; SB-O7)6 THIRD READING PAGE SB-0811 SECOND RDADING PAGE :8-0830 SECOND ReADiNG PZGE 3B-086k SECOND READING PAGE 58-0869 SECOMD HEADING PZGE SB-!026 SECOND READING PAGD SB-10)8 SECOND REâDING PAGE sB-1084 SECOVD READIMG PAGE 53-1095 SECOND READING PAGE SB-::94 SECOND READING PAGE SR-COM3 RESOLMTION OFFERED PAGE SR-00kk RESOLUTIQK OFFERED PZGE sR-00h5 HESOLUTIOM OFFERED PAGE SR-00k7 RESOLUTIOM OFFERED P2GE ::-00:8 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE SJR-OOMQ RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE S:BJECT HATTER SENâTE TO ORDER-SZïATOR UEZVER PAGE PRZYER-PASTOR HIKE ROBERTS PAGE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIâNCE PâGC JOUHNALS-APPROVED PâGE COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE HESSZGES FROH THE HOUSE PAGE MES52GE8 FROM THE SECRETZRY 0F STATZ PAGE INTHODUCTIQN 0F GUEST-SESATOR %OODYARD PâGE GDBST SPEâKER-DIRECTOR EDUARDG GONZALEZ PAGE HESSAGE FROH THE SBCRETâRY CF STZTE PAGE COHXITTEE REPOHTS PAGE COHMITTEE PEPOHTS PAGE ADJOORNHENT PAGE