The regular Session of the 90th General Assembly will please come to order. W ill the Members please be at their desks , and will our guests in the galleries please rise . Our p rayer today will be qiven by Senator Geo-Karis. Senator Geo-Karis .
(Prayer by Senator Adeline Jay Geo-Karis)
Will you please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance? Sendto r Sieben .
(Pledge of Allegiance, led by Senator Sieben)
Readlng of the Jou rnal .
Senate Journals of Friday , May 16th 7 Monday , May 19th : Tu'esday , May 20th , and Wednesday, May 21st, 1997 .
Senato r Butler.
Mr. Presidentr I mgve that the Jcurnals just read by the Secretary be approved , unless some Senator has additions or corrections to offer.
Senator Butler moves to approve the Journals just read. There being no objection, so ordered. Senator Butler.
Mr . Presidenty I move that reading and approval of the Journals of Thursday , May 22nd ; Friday , May 23rd 7 Tuesday , May 27th) and Wednesday , May 28th , ln the year 1997, be postponed , pending arrival of the printed Jou rnals .
STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29, 1997 Senator Butler moves to postpone the reading and the app roval of the Journals, pending the arrival of the printed transcrlpts . There being no objection, so ordered. Messages from the House.
A Message from the House by Mr. Rossi: Clerk . Mr. Prestdent am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has refused to recede from their Amendment No . l to a bill of the following title y to W it: Senate B ill 1129. I am further directed to inforn the Senate that the House of Representatives requests a First Comm ittee of Conferenee . We have like Messages on Senate Bill 1131 and Senate Bill 1132. All action taken by the House r May 27th# 1997 .
Without objectionr the Senate accedes to the request of the House for conference committees on th6se bills just read by tbe Secretary . Is leave granted? Leave granted .
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) . . . Burzynski, fcr what purp bcse do ycu rise, sir? I 'd like to ask all the Members of the Senate to come to the Floor and resume their seats , 'cause we 're .gc ing to get started . We will now go to the Executive Session fo r the purpose of advise and consent . M r.. Secretary , Committee Repcrts .
Senator Petka , Chair of the Committee on Executive Appointments , to which was referred tbe Governor 's Message of May 5th, 1997r reported the same back with a recommendation the Senate advise and eonsent to the following appointments .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Petka .
STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legisla tive Day May 29 , 1997 Thank you , Madam President . I move the Senate reso lve itself into Executive Session for the purpose of acting on the Governo r's appointments set forth in his Message of May 5th and May 21st.
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) Any discussion? You 've hea rd the motion . A 1l those in favor, say Aye . A11 opposed , say Nay . The motion 's carried and we are in Executive Session . Senator Petka .
Madam Presldentr with respect to the Govern6r's Message of May 5th # Will read the salaried appointments of the State Boa rd of Elections to which the Senate Comm ittee on Executlve Appolntments recommends tha t the Sena te do advise and eonsent : To be membe rs of the State Board of Elections for terms end ing June 30, 2001: Charles Du rham , of Chicago ; Dav id E . Murray , of Rock Falls; Wanda Rednourr of Duouoin; Elaine Roupas, of Palos Park . Madam President, having read ' the salaried appointments of the State Board of Elections from the Governor 's Message of May 5th r I now seek leave to consider these appointments on a roll call . And , Mr. Madam President, w ill you put the question as required by our rules?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) . . . question is , Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate , does the Senate advise and consent to the nominattons just made. Those in favor, vote Aye. Those opposed Will vo te Nay . The vo ting is open . Rave a11 voted who wished? Have a ll voted who wished? Have all voted who wished? Take the record . On that question , there are 58 vo ting Aye: none voting No , none voting Present. And the -- two-thirds majority of Senators elected concurring by record vo te , the Senate does advise and consent to the nominations just made. Senator Petka.
STATE OF ILL INOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 , 1997 Thank you , Madam Presldent . With respect to the Governcr 's Message of May 5th , I will read the salaried appointments to Which the Senate Comm ietee on Execuelve Appointments recommends eha t the Senate do advise and consent: To be the State Sanitary Dlstrict Observer for a term ending January 18th , 1999: Connie Petersr o f Arlington Heights . To be a member of the Illino is State Toll Highway Authority for a term ending May 1st, 1999: Paula S . Fasseas , of Chicago . Madam Presidentr having reaà the salarled appointments of May 5th , I noW seek leave to consider these appotntments on a roll call. And , Madam President , you put the question as required by our rules?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any discusslon? Any discusslon? Hearin: none , the question does the Senate advise and consent to the nomlnations just made . Those in favor, vote Aye . Those opposed W ill vote Nay . The vo ting is open. Have ' a ll voted who W ished? Have a1l voted who w ished? Have all voted who Wished? Take the record . On that question , there are vo ting Aye r none votlng Nay, none vctln: Present. A majority of Senators elected concurring by record vote, the Senate does advise and consent to the nominations just made . Senator Petka .
Thank you , Madam Presldent . With respect to the Governo r's Message o f May 5th r I will read the unsala ried appo intments to whlch the Senate Committee on Executive Appointments recommends that the senate do advise and consent : To be members of the Board of Aeronautical Advlso rs for terms ending Janua ry 18th , 1999 : Bernard A rmb ruster, o f Springfield ; Paul Beitler, of W innetka ; John Gold rlcky of Bloomington ; Ralph Hurwitz , of Sp rinçfield; David NewMyer, of Desoto ; Cha rles Priester , of Lake in the Hills ; Gerald Stephensr of Peoria ; Joseph 4 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 , 1997 Warner, of No rmal . To be members of the Board of Agrlcultural Advisors fo r terms ending January 18th, 1999) Donald Ahrens , of Shawneetown; James Hankes , of Ga lesburg ; Russell Koster, of Sterling ; Patricia Lawfer, of Stockton ; Geo rge Smith , of Keenes; Edward Whitaker, Sp ringfield ; Betty W iesey of Versailles; Robert Wood , o f Bowen . To be members of the Agricultural Export Advisory Committee for terms ending Janua ry 18th , 1999 : Jim Chingas , of St . Anne ; Richard Ligthart, of Lemont/ Lynn Myers' , of Roscoe; Thomas Pearcy, of Cla re; Matherine Reading r of Skokie ; Darrell Rich, of Chandlerville ; Linda Sahagian , of Oak Park; Paul Van Halteren, of Chicaqo; Georgè Willaredt, of Edwardsville; Heidi Wright: of Malta . To be members of the State Banking Board of Illino ts for a term endlng December 31st, 1998: Cary Cappa relli, of Chicago ; John Eck , of Wheaton ; Sond ra Healyy of W innetka . To be members of the Y tate Banking Board of Tllinois for terms end ing December 3lstr 2000 : Joy French Becker. of Jacksonville ; Dean Decker, of Geneseo ; Mark F ield , of Liberty . To be members ot the Children and Family Services Advlsory Counc il fo r terms end in: January 15, 2001: Barbara Cempura , of Belleville ; M icki Chulick , of DeKalb ; Susan Cook, of Ca rterville ; Herbert Holzman , of Highland Park ; Charlotte Mushow , .of Elmhurst; Ellen Yea rwood z of Des Plaines; Haro ld Ziebell, of Petersburg . To be a member of the East St. Louis Financ ia l Advisory Authority for a te rm ending August 30th, 1998 : James M ikes , af Chicago . To be a member of the East St . Louis Financial Adviso ry Authority for a term ending August 30th , 1999 : Jercme Jackson , of East St. Louis . To be members of the Illinois Economic Development Board for terms ending November 1st, 1998 : M iehael Birck, Hinsda le ; 5 STATE og ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 r 1997 Kevin Kelly , of Elgin; Earl Lazerson, o f Edwardsville; Ma rilyn Miglin r of Chicago ; Paul Oddo : of Mount Prospect; Serg io Pecorl, of Springfield ; Roger Roberson, of Champaign ; Sam Skinnere of Wlnnetka ; Bernard Spatz, of Chicaço ; Vicki Stewart, of Danville; Donald Tolva, of Oak Brook; Donald Turner, of Chicago ; David W illiams , of Chicago . To be members of the Illinois Electronic Data Processlng Adviso ry Conmlttee for a term ending December 31st , 1998 : John Yed inak , of Hinsdale . To be a member of the Illinois Electronlc Fund T ransfer Advisory Committee for a term end lng December 31st , 2000 : Melody Filarski, of Morton. To be members of the Employment Security Advlsory Boa rd fc r terms ending January 18th , 1999 : Sandra Bullar, of -- of Murphysbo rc ; James Helfrich , of Belleville; Donald Johnson, of Springfield ; Alots Kaczmarek, of Elmhurst; Dennis Whetstone : of Sprinçfield . To be members of the Illinois Health Care Cost Containment Council for terms end tng September 5th , 1999 : James Chao , of Naperville ; Frank Gramm , of Libertyville ; Lenore Janecek, of Chicago ; La rry Lawler, o f Decatur. To be a member of the State Board of Health for a term end ing November 1st, 1999 : Sharon Mum ford , of Metropolis. To be members of the Kaskaskia Regional Port District Board for terms ending June 30th , 1999: Robert Gottschanmer, of Fayetteville ; Richard Cuebert , of Modoc . To be members of the Adviso ry Board to the Depa rtment of Labo r for te rms ending Janua ry 18th , 1999 : James Bruner , of Jacksonville ; Bruce Carlson , cf Chicago ; Terry Fai relough , of Springf ield ; Br ian Hickey , of Chicago ; Delph ine Lytell , of Palos Hills ; Leona rd Mo rris , of Chicago ; W i11 iam No lan , of Chicago ; Steve Spano , of Westcheste r ; Dave Vite , of Woodstock ; Ante Vul ich # 6 l STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 , 1997 of Palos Hills ; Dennis Whekstone , of Spring field . To be members of the Labor-Management Cooperation Comm ittee for a term ending July lstz 1998 : Donald Johnson, of Sp ringfield . To be members of the Labor-Management Cooperation Comm ittee for terms ending July 1st , 1999 : Thomas Howard , of Countryside ; W illiam Schrader, of Riverton ; Michael Wood , of Marquette Heights . To be members of the Advisory Board of Livestock Comm issione rs for a -- terms ending January 18th , 1999 : Dave Bateman , of Elburn; Eldon Gould/ of Maple Park; Robert Griffin: of Mason City; James Niewold , of Loda . To be a member of the State Mandates Board of Review fo r a term ending June 30th, 1999: Barbara Lapianaz of Lincolnshire. To be a member of the Medical Licensing Board for a term end ing January 8th , 1998 : Dean Bordeaux, of Peoria . To be a member of the Advisory Board on Necropsy Se rvices to Coroners for a term ending January l8, 1999 : Julte M. Gummershelmer, o! -- of Columbia . To be members of the Advisory Board on Necropsy Services to Coroners for terms ending Janua ry l7 , 2000: Richard Ballinger, of Glendale Heights ; James Walker, of Carbondale . To be Public Adm inistrato r and Public Guardian of Calhoun County fo r a term end ing December 1st , 1997 : Rose Stumpf , of Ba tchtown , To be the Public Adm inlstrato r and Publie Guardian of Payette County for a term ending December lst r 1997: Beulah Brown, of Vandalia . To be the Public Admin istrator and Public Guardian of Adams County for a term end ing December 1999 : W illiam Mays , Jr., of Quincy. To be the Public Administrator and Public Guardian o f G rundy County for a te rm end ing December 6 , 1999 : Diane Jorstad , of Morris . STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 , 1997 To be the Public Administrator and Public Guardian of Rock Island County fo r a term ending December 6, 1999 : Moss Meersman: of Moline . To be the Public Administrator and Public Guardian of Union County for a term endlng December 6, 1999 : George Warren , of Anna . To be members of the Quad Cities Regional Economic Development Authority fc r a term end ing January 18, 1999: Thomas Getz, o f Moline ; Jennifer Rowe , of Rock Island . To be members of thé State Soil and Water Conservation Advisory Board for terms end ing Janua ry 15, 2001 : Donald Condit: of Putnam ; Leon Kohlmeier, of Waterloo . To be a member of the Advisory Council on Spinal Cord and Head . Injuries for a term ending June 30th, 1999: Mary Kay Griffin, of Sp ringfield . To be members of the Workers Compensation Advisory Board for terms ending January 19, 1998: G regory Ba ise r of Lemont; Donald Johnson, of' Sprlngfield ; Terrence Lynch : of Lansing ; Dennis Whetstone , of Springfield . Now , Madam President , having read the unsalaried appo intments, now seek leave to consider these appo intments on a single roll call. And , Madam Presidenty Will you please put the question as required by our rules?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any d iscusslon? Hea rin: none : the question is, does the Senate advise and consent to the nominations just made. Those in favo r, vote Aye . Those opposed , vo te Nay . The vo ting ls open. Have all voted who wished? Have all voted who wished? Have all voted who wished? Take the reeord. On that questions a majority of Senators elected concurring by record vote, the Senate does advise and consent to the nominations just made. Mr. Secretary.
Senator Petka , Cha ir of the Comm ittee on Executlve 8 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Leg islative Day May 29 , 1997 Appointments , to which was referred the Governor's Message of May 21st, 1997 , reported the same back With a recommendation the Senate advise and consent to the following appointments .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senato r Petka .
Thank you , Madam President. W ith respect to the Governor 's Message of May 21st , I will read the salaried appointments to Wh ich the Senate Comm iftee on Executive Appo intment recommends that the Senate do advise and consent : To be Inspector General of the Department of Children and Pamily Services for a term ending June 1st, 2001: Denise Kane, of Chicago . To be a member of the Illinois Human Rights Comm ission fo r a term ending January 2001: James Maloof, of Peoria . Madam Presidentr havlng read the salaried appointments of May 21st, hoW seek to consider these appointments on a roll call. And , Madam President , w ill you put the question as requlred by our rules?
FRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-XARIS) Any discussion? Senator Hendon .
Madam President, as ...
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Just a moment r Senato r Hendon . May We please have your undivlded attention? Thank you .
As allowed by our rules, as the Minority Spokesman on Executive Appointments, I move that we divlde the question between ehese two nominees and take them on a separate roll call.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Hendon r there must be five Members making this 9 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCR IPT 58th Legislatlve Day May 29 # 1997 request. Do you have four Members joining you? so, please identify those Members . Senato r, who?
Senators Carroll, Berman , Halvorson and Senato r Severns .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Carroll, Senator Berman, Senator Halvorson and Senator Severns . Is that correct?
Do I need more? And myself, of course.
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS ) And yourself, Senator Hendon . ...this time -- Senato r Hendon r ycur request is g ran*ed .
Thank you . PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) At this time r We will proceed to the O rder of the Inspector General of the Department of Children and Family Services , Denise Kane . The question is , does the Senate adv ise and consent to the nomination of Denise Kane just made. Those in favor, vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay . The vcting is open. Have a1l voted who wished? Have all voted who wished? Have al1 voted who wished? Take the reco rd . On that question , there are 57 voting Aye, none voting Nor none votlng Present. And a majorlty of Senato rs elected concurring by reco rd vote , the Senate dces advise and consent to the nomination just made. We will now consider the membe rship to the Illinois Human R tghts Comm ission, James A. Malocfr of Peoria. Any dtscussion? Any discussion? Senator Hendon .
Thank you, Madam President. I wculd like for the Body to just consider for a moment what we are about to do w ith Mr . Malocf . And let me say from the outset that I found h1m to be a very nice 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 , 1997 gentleman , a nice person. But a 1ot of controversy has a rlsen eo question his appolntment this particular position . Yesterday : Senator Carroll and voted Present in the committee , and I promised that would no t vote No against this nominee until I did further research . Sc T got on ehe phone and I made some calls to Peoria , Where Mr. Maloof is the former Mayor, for twelve years . Very well liked , highly respected . And I also began to get phone calls from a number of people in Peoria . And came up wtth a particula r picture of Mr. Maloof that was rathe r mixëd and disturbing . While everyone agreed that he was an excellent ambassador, a fine person r loves people , they also said maybe he loved a little bit too much , hugged and kissed a little b it toc much . And perhaps, sometlmes in his zest to show h is love , he may have placed his hands in some areas where women - most women - just did not want them to be. Now, if he was being nominated for M ines and Minerals or Nuclear Regulation or Gam ing or Economic bevelopment, fine, no problem , but this is the Commission on Human Rights . Mr . Maloo f Was charged with sexual harassment as Mayor of Peoria . He was also charged , along with the government of Peoria : with a number of discrim inaticn abuses . Now , in my phone calls , I - - it became clear to me that he 's not a racist . This is not the allegations about race kere -- just didn't buy into those. I said: ''No# I -- doesn't come over like that to mem'' So I just d iscarded those charges . I said , ''No , it 's no t a racist don 't that he 's a racist.'' But everybody , even his suppo rte rs , kept saying that he 's from another era r Ehat he 's a nice guy r but he 's from another era . And I 'm tryin: to figure outy is that the ho rse-and-buggy era? Is that before women had the right to vote?. What era is he from? And they say, ''Wellr he's from another culture .'' And in their culture , women are not seen as women are seen in America . Well, this is America . Mr . Maloc f also indicated in comm ittee that his fo rmer sec reta ry , who filed 11 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESS ION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 r 1997 cha rges against him , was now in suppo rt of his nomination. That ca rried a lot o f weigbt in the comm ittee . People sa id : Well, his secretary files sexual d iscrimination against him and then dropped it, or -- I mean -- welly she didn't drop it, it was settled , but now she ls supporting his nom ination , well : maybe he 's okay. He mislead the comm ittee . His former secre tary is noe supporting his nom inaticn to th ts Commission . Now , it's very important to understand what she was willing to do . He had a retirement party . She supported the retirement patty . She organized Because -- I guess she figured, wellz he's going to be gone , he can 't harm anybody . But when she looked at this sensitive position of a person who 's going to be hearing cases of sex dlscrlm ination and a:e discrtmination and civil rlgh es discrin ination and violaticns, she sald , ''No t that spo t.'' called -- spoke w ith the Governor 's people . I said , f'No t this pcsition'' Another position, yes, but not a position where you 're dealing With issues of which you just don't understand. He just doesn 't get 1t . As of this moment , he still dces not believe he dld anything wrong. Now hoW can you honestly and adjudicate cases like this that are going to come before hlm , if he was involved in a case like this and still believes he d id absolutely nothing w ronq? Let me close by saylng r the one th tng that rea lly put me over the top , saying that we had to stap this pa rticular appointment by our Honorable Governo r if we could and z Madam President , if I could . I -- I know late , but can ha rdly hear myself. PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) can hear you . SENATOR HENDON : That 's because you have such excellent hearing ... PRESIDJNG OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-XARIS) You 're right. 12 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Leg islative Day Mag 29y 1997
But, please , Ladies and Gentlemen , I think it -- it should be important to every Senator in this Chamber, what happens to women and how women are treated . If it 's note continue With your conversations, and 1.11 just talk a little louder. But made a comm itment wasn 't going to scream and holler, by your advice , Madam President: three yea rs ago , and I haven 't . don 't Want to do now . But this is important . We 're talking about a Woman 's right to be treated like a man , to be -- èa rn what a man makes. makes no sense at al1 tc put this gentleman in this very sensitive position. Something else , M r. Governo r, yes , but not thls . In conclusion, a young lady called me in support of Mr. Maloof. She spoke eloquently about him . But asked her one question . I said , ''What about the sexual discriminaticn cha rges?'' This is what made me clear that we had to stop h im . She said , and quote , ''Because of the fact that he was sued and came under ehese charges, he is betfer qualified, because he 's had the expe rience in handling these issues .'' think that is abso lutely outragecus. In other words, a convicted Ku Klux Klansman is up for the Civil R ights Comm ission , give it to him , because he knows a1l about hanging people .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) Further d iscussion? Senato r Shad id .
Thank you , Madam President. You know respect you , Senator Hendon, bu* really took lt personally when you wanted to compare Mr. Maloof to someone with the Ku Klux Klan . Now find that absolutely ridiculous and I resent I 've known M r. Maloo f for fifty-five years, and 1et me say to you tha t he is probably one of the most compassionate people that I've ever met, and I 've had d isagreements w ith Mr. Maloof on a lot issues , but not on the issue of does he care fo r people . He 's one of the most caring STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Le:isla tive Day May 29 , 1997 people in our comm unity , and h1s record reflects that . Fo r instance, al1 of his life he 's always went arcund hugg ing and kissln: ladies, When the cccasion arised, to congratulate them on whatever. And have not known of any people, espec ially child ren , who Will say to you that they fve been hugged too much . You know y in today 's society , it 's very difficult for us to show any compasslon , to hug a little child r 'cause you 're fea rful what 's go ing to happen to you , especlally you 're a male . I can tell you th' at Mr . Ma loof was very instrumental in getting the first black, A frican-Amerlcan , appointed to the -- be C iey Manager in the City of Peoria, of which that perscn still is the City Manager. And this was abouu six or elght mohehs ago. When Mr. Maloof , who ran for office three different times , Was running for the thlrd tlme , this lawsuit was in the Helght of its emo tions in the City of Peoria. It was a major issue in the maycral campaign. There were so many uomen walking around w1th a button tha t says , ''Hug me , Mayor . I want you to hug me , 'cause I love Well, this tells me something . He 's also the person Who orig inated, many years ago . alon: with Danny Thomas ' the St. Jude m idwest affiliatez Which I 'm sure you dre fam iliar with that it helpedz trea ted and eured many , many ch ildren W ith leukemia . He originated that in Peorla , and it 's p robably 'the largest affiliate ln this country . And I want to correct something : Neither myself or Mayor Maloof said that h is former secreta ry suppo rted his nominatton. Now , if -- and I talked to M r. Hendon . We 've talked to some people . NoW if we if th is was implied in any of our ' statements , that was not the intent . What was said Was she volunteered to chair his retirement party about five or six weeks ago . I did not say she suppo rted And by the way , in the mo rning paper, she was interviewed , and if you want to believe what the papers say - think scmetimes you want to believe what they say when it 's to your th tnking - she said that she had no 14 SQATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 , 1997 comment whatsoever on this appotntment. And I 'm not say ing that she supports in no way . In Peoria y I think there 's seventeen black ministers that are called the Ministerial Assoeiation . Every one of his elections , they have supported him fully and aggressively , because they believe him . So I think th is has something to say . You know , sometimes when you fre ln public life , and I'm sure you 're a1l aware of 1t, that the longer you stay , the mare baqgage you p ick up , and people will always remember When you stumble , ' but never the hund reds of times that you do right . Mr . ' Maloof is not proud of the fact that he waé cha rged in th is discrimination suit, but the details were never let out. was settled a year and a half, or a year aqo, and a lot of it -- and personally , would have liked to seen it go to tria l so that everybody would have the details . But the City decided to settle because the attorney fees Were becoming to great fo r 'em and they thought that they ought to cut their losses . And so no one Was either found guilty or not guilty and no onè knew who did what: and I thlnk it Was inappropriate . He is also -- he is also supported very strongly by the active Jewish community in our -- in our City. They support him extremely kell. 'Hels a well-liked person, and I 'm not saying that eve rybody likes him . don 't think everybody likes us, but we hope fifty-one percent o f 'em do when go vo te . But let me say to you , would app reciate yeu r support for him y because feel that he is a very compassëonate person and have faith in him that he Will do What 's right . Whatever the decision isy he 'll dc what he ftrmly believes in. He 's a God-fearing person , and I am go ing to support h im . I Wculd appreciate your suppo rt . Thank you . PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Further diseussion? Sena tor Severns . SENATOR SEVERNS : Thank you , Madam President, Members of the Senate . I rise to STATE 0F ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 , 1997 objeet to this appointment, not because Mayor Maloof has been a bad Mayor. As a former city counc il member in Decatur, I remember hearing good repo rts on the Mayo r. We 're not challenging how gcod of a public servant he was ; what we dre challeng ing is what I th ink Was best written in the Peo ria Journal Star this morning . I don 't : . know how many of you have had a chance to read the Peoria Journal Star, but I would like to quote just part of one paragraph. It says r ''The problem is that Maloof 's nomination comes less than a yea r after the City of Peorla settled a sexual discrim inatlon lawsuit that involved fifty city hall female employees . Maloof r as Mayorr was sued by his secretaryy who aecused him of subjecting her to unwanted hugs, kisses and comments about her anatomy .'' She . was no* alone . There were fifty female employees in the Ciey of Peoria that brought forward that suit : a su it that that Ctty settled fo r tWo m illion dollars . Whlle I would not question, certa ënly, the wo rds of my friend and colleague , Senato r Shadid r it would seem to me, as a forme r city council nembery that no city casually settles unless they thlnk there's reason to settle . This City settled , fo r two m illion dolla rs , a suit brought forward by flfty female employeesy settled less ehan a year ago . T think we have to ask ourselves what kind of messaqey what kind of signal are we sending, to put the very lndividual who has been subjected ' to a suit and that sult has been settled , on a small commlssion that judges a large issue - a thirteen-member commission that judges critical issues facin: countless human beings across this . State . I Would no t stand here and qua rrel, if we appointed Mr. Maloof to a comm ission that overlooked machine ry , land , m ines, minerals , whatever other comm ission appropriate that he m ight be ccnsidered for. But let 's not appoint him to a commission that will judge the very kind of suit that the City of Peoria has just settled: for two m illlon dollars, with fifty female city employees . It 's a W rong message to send to our constituents . 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCR IPT 58th Legislative Day May 29, 1997 Itfs a w rong message to send to the indivlduals who feel they have no other cho ice but to b rin: a cha rge before that commlssion.
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Further discussion? Senator Carroll .
Thank you , Madam President , Members of the Senate . tco , happen to have served on the comm ittee and listened to the b rief discussion - brief discussion comm ittee . And had and I have grea t'respect fo r my colleagues from Peoria , b0th of'whom are supportive of Mayor Maloof , and had a nice chance to meet with the Mayor and have some very good dlscussions with him . Also , I've heard from leadership of the Peoria Jewish community r who a re truly, as Senato r Shadid said , very suppo rtive . Having sa id al1 ehat, no< comes the howeve r. And the hovever is , unfortunately , and don 't blame anybody for this, the appa rent rules in the comm ittee d id not allow a real hearing on the issue . And it Was not rules just for this particular nomineer and maybe it's something we ought to , very seriously , do something about ; it 's a rule that also affected a nominee in the pasty vho , in that pa rttcular instance , the cha irman happened to have been personally against, and also d id not allow people whc were against the opportunity to testify . And that, I think , bo thered me the most . Because maybe if we had a full hearing , we 'd have a better understanding of the cha rges of that lieigation. As Senator Severns pointed out , of fifty employees ln Peoria settled fo r two million dollars just a year or so ago. There Were people in the room . Nobody made an issue out of it, because tha t committee people have not been allowed to file witness slips and g ive testimony . And I do believe if khat 's what the rules provide , and I don 't really think they do , the re should be a cla rity of tha t, that that 's the purpose of a comm ittee meeting . Mayo r Ma loof , I believe, is a ve ry wonderful person, but these a re the type of 17 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 r 1997 charges that one has to give second and pause . And as has been said, say to those who are the judges of cases of discrimination, a two-million-dollar settlement, by one of those judges, of charges of discrtmination by that judge, should give anyone pause if they were going to appear before that comm tssion . To those of us who have to apprcve those who Will be the judges, I am not pleased that we have the know ledçe With which to approve a person who , though only charged I admit it was not a conviction a two-million-dollar settlement fo r fifty people is a lot of money . And maybe , had we had a full hearing , these questions could have been fully answered . I think we have to ask the President of the Senate to make sure that that rule is changed forever. Committee hearings are for the public to come in and give testimony . didn 't happen , and again r no fault of the Cha ir; it d idn 't happen past hearings, either. Then, maybe we could decide more intelligently . W ith the limited informationy I cannot be supportive of a person who was charged W1th not only sexual d iscrim ination, but g lass ceiling , and for Whom his City pald two million dollars. unfortunate for him , because th ink he has proven himself to be a good mayor and Would be a gocd appo intee to many State boards, just not this one, with the information We have .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) Further discussion? Senato r Fawell.
Thank you very much r Madam Prestdent . You kncw r sometimes I think we -- we ge* a little too hung up on being politically correct around here . I do not know this gentleman, but I know a 1ot of -- of men like him , because that 's pretty much What my generation ts like . There was no looking down upon a man who who liked to hug and liked to kiss . In fact, frankly , a lot of us klnd of liked it. It 's gotten to the point noW where fathers are 18 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 r 1997 afraid to hu: their daughtersi.they lre afraid their going to be cha rged with sexually moleselng them . Fathers, for the first generatlon now , a re allowed to hug thelr sons , but not their daughters . Men a re no longer allowed to come up and hug us . kind of miss tha t: and there 's a lot of us tha t do . This gentleman had a secretary for thirty-five yea rs . Por thirty-flve years this woman put up with this behavior. For thirty-five years she worked for this gentleman and then was in charge of a retirement pa rty that tWo thcusand people came to honcr him . And she was in charge of it, and sent out the invitations, and then turned around and sa id , but he 's a bad guy . I'd like to know Who in the wo rld told him -- told her, somewhere along the line , that - - that for the last thirty-five yearsy she 's been workin: for somebody who 's been sexually ha rasstng he r. Maybe they should have told her thirty-five years aqo , and she could have found another job. You know, somebody actually is sexually harasslng somebody, 1 agree that persan is despicable. But for scmebody to go up and hug somebody or -- or say they -- they apprectate what she 's doing through touching her ln appropriate Ways, there's nothini wrong with that. Maybe if mcre people hugged each otherr We wouldn 't have the klnd of world z unfo rtuna tely , we do have . ' personally would like to see more parents hug thelr chlldren and more employe rs hug their emplcyees , as long as it 's confined to certain areas . And frankly , a seventy-seven-year-old man who 's hugging his secretary that he 's had for thirty-five years doesn ft seem to me is really inapp ropria te . Seventy-seven years , you know : don 't you guys wish tha t you could do that sevpnty-seven -- when you 're seventy-seven? think we ought to vote for the guy r let him have his last bit of glory , and forget this nonsense . PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Senator -- Sena tor Halvorson. SENATOR HALVORSON : 19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29, 1997 Thank you , Madam President. W ith all due respect , Senator Eawelk; I'm not sure that thts is about a hug or two . I think we enjoy a hug or two. I think this is about discrimination. This is about the other people Who possibly were not able to get jobs that they deserved. This is about equality, and really think that We need to take a second look at the faet that th is is a nice man, he could do a good jobr but tbere was any other number of plaees for him to be . think the p roblem is the fact that it ié th is appo intment to a human rights issue that he 'll have to be dealln: w ith . Thank you .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senato r Karpiel. ...Karp iel.
I move the previous question .
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Karpiel moves the previous question . There are four people left to be speaking. Thank you. benator Hendon, for a second time . SENATOR HENDON ) apologize for risin: a second time . be very brief . Ms . Brown Was his seeretary for five years , not thirty-five years : And T agree ke should hug and kiss our child ren a lot more , Senator Fawell, buk comments about women 's b reasts, that's unappropriate . didn 't want to bring that pa rt of it up , but now must, because there 's mo re touchy-feely , it 's comments, that women found inapp ropriate . In addition, in the discrtmination suit: was wage discrim ination . And in this Chamber, there 's not one o f you beauetful lady Senators who should make less money than me because I 'm a man or Senato r O 'Malley because he 's man . it's just not right. And none of you would want that to happen to youy so why would you subject the women khc will go before this commission to the same thing? It's just not fair. 20 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 r 1997 ' None of you would want to make less than a male Senator just because you bre female , and you should consider that in your vote . PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Further discussion? Sena tor Jacobs . SENATOR JACOBS: Thank you , Madam President, Lad ies and Gentlemen of the Senate . Many of our arguments are redundant , but -- and I had told Senato r Shadid I wasn 't going to speak on this issue , but I 'n hearing scme of these thi'ngs and it 's bothering me# not so much because of Maloof, but from our own comments about our own feelinqs . And , you know : we keep talking about hugs . This isn 't about hugs . A hug that is warranked , a hug that is wanted , a hug that ls received is fine . have fourteen grandchild ren, I hug I hug them all. But whenever that grandchild or that other person that I 'm hugging says, ''No ''# they say y ''I don 't want to be hugged r I don 't Want you touchy-feely with me'' that 's whenever you make the decision to stop . It appears in this case , to have , as -- as Senator Severns said, fifty women join on to a sutt, that logically -- and -- and in our own mlnd , we have to th ink tha t there 's a little smoke there and if there 's smoke , there 's got to be a little fire. And it just doesn't make a lot of sense to me to talk about hugs and kisses, because I think everyone enjoys to be hugged , loved , but thls lsn 't about hugs and love . This about unsolicited , unwarranted advancements that , unfortunately r as Senato r Carroll sa id , did no t go through the court process to be heard . think we should look at this in a logical sense. Forget the emotion of the issue and -- and look at it from the standpoint: Is this person fitted for the position Which he ls going to be nominated to ? And think tha t's really the issue . PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Last speaker, Senato r Shadid ... SENATOR SHADID : 21 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Leg islative Day May 29, 1997 Yes , 1 ...
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) . . . for a second time .
. . . stand up the second time, but I just wanted to make sure that everybody 's aware that : was go ing to clarify that thirty-five years of secretartal work. I believe Mayor Maloof hired her in his second term . So r he -- she was With him for five or six years as his secreta ry , and she 's been now elevated to a different positionr a much better paylng job. But, I'd like to clear up something that -- before everybody thinks that a1l fifty women were suing Mayor Maloof. He was not being sued by al1 fifty women. And it 's too bad , and I 'm no t a lawyer, but too bad that this didn 't go to trial, so everybody would have seen who exactly did what . But in many cases r in respcnse to Senator Severns, a city and When I was the sheriff, we would settle things out r because the cost got too high and the insurance company says , ''We11, this ls as far as We 're going . You 're on you 're oWn .'' And so that 's When they settle these cases out , and I 'm sure she 's well aware of tha t. This is wha t's impc rtant . I 'm not a lawyer, but the lawyer's fees became too big and the City took the easy way out , I feel , because most of the citizens, me included , wanted to hear exactly what took p lace and Who did wha t. So thank you very much .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) The question is , does the Senate advise and consent Eo the nomination just made. Those in favor, vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay . The voting is open . Have a11 voted Who Wished? Have a1l voted who wished? Have all voted Who Wished? Have al1 voted who w ished? Have all voted who Wished? Take the record . On the - - a majority of Senators... On that question: the Ayes are 29z the Nays are 23z the Presents are 3, 4 not voting. And a majority 22 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 , 1997 of Senators elected did not concur by reccrd vote for the nominatlon, and the -- the Senate rejects the nomination of Mr. Maloof for the Office of the Human Rights . Senator Petka .
May I ask for postponed consideration of that vote?
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) It 's in order. Postponed Consideration. Senator Petka . What is your pc int of o rder, Senato r Ca rroll?
Thank you -- thank you , Madam President. Just a po int of o rder. I 'm not aware that you can ask postponed consideration on a motion to -- to confirm an appointment or any other moiion. think you can only ask fo r yes , think you can only postpone a record vote on a p tece of leg islation, but on a mo tion I don 't think that can ever be postponed. You can just make another mo tion at another time . I think that...
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Let 's look into it and we 'll advise you in a m inute .
Thank you .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Carroll y We '1l go on to the other message 'and then we 'll come back to you . Senator Carroll . Senator Petka , do you have another nom ination?
Thank you r Madam President. W ith respect to the Governor 's Message of May 2ls* , will read the unsala ried appointments to which the Senate Comm ittee on Executive Appointments recommends that the Senate do advise and consent: To be a member of the Board of Aeronautical Advisors for a term endin: January l8, 1999 : James Loomis, of Rockford . To be a member of the Agrtcultural Export Adviso ry Comm ittee 23 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29, 1997 for a term end ing January l8 r 1999: William Yakey y of Stewa rdson. To be a member of the Bi-state Development Agency fo r a term endlng January l5 , 2001 : Michael Fausz , of Waterloo . To be a member of *he Central Midwest Interstate Low-Level Radioactive Waste Commission for a term ending January 18, 1999 : Thomas O rtciger, of Leland Grove . To be a member of the Chlldren and Family Services Advisory Counc il for terms ending January 15, 2001: Prances Ba rnes, o f Chicago; Linda Goforth , of Carbondale . To be members of the Illinois Community College Board for terms ending June 30th, 2003: Gwendolyn Laroche, 6f Chicago; Joseph Neely , of Metropolis; Mclly No rwood , of Carbondale ; Martha Olsson , of Peorla ; Delores Ray : of East St . Louis . To be members of the Illinois Econom ic Development Board for terms ending November 1st , 1998: Nancy Foster, of St . Charles ; Karen A . Ramos , of Tinley Park . To be a member of the Illinois Electronie Data Processing Advisory Committee fo r a term ending Deeember 31st , 1998 : Steven Schweizer y of Glen Carbon . To be a member of the Illinois Electronic Fund Transfer Advisory Committee fo r a term ending Decembe r 3lsty 2000 : John Fiore , of Wheaton . To be a member of the Illinois Ftduciary Advisory Committee for a term ending January 1st, 2001: Judy Macicr , of Chicago . To be a member of the Illinois Gaming Board for a term endlng July 1st, 2000 : Gayl Pyatt , of Pinckneyville . To be a member of the Illino is Health Care Cost Containment Council for a term ending September 5th , 1999 : Nancy Myna rd , of Chicago . To be a member of the Illinois Human Resource Investment Council for a term endin: July 1st , 1999: Dino Ptgoni, o f 24 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 , 1997 Norridge . To be a member of *he Advisory Board on Necropsy Serviees to Coroners fo r a term ending January 2000 : Renneth Toftoy , of Yorkville . To be a member of the Seate Board of Pharmaey for a term ending April lst 1999 : John Dik , of Western Springs. To be the Public Administrator and Public Guard ian o f Johnson County fo r a term end ing December 6 , 1999 : William Elliott, of Vlenna . To be a Public Adm inistrator and Public Guardian of Henry County for a term ending December 6, 1999 : Curtis Ford ' of Geneseo . To be the Public Adm inlstrator and Public Guardian of Jefferson County fo r a term end ing December 3rd # 2001 : Helen Thackrey, of Mt. Vernon. To be a member of the Southern Illinois Unive rsity Board of Trustees for a term end ing January 20# 2003: John Brewst'er, of Herrin; George Wilkins, of Charleston. To be a member of the Southwestern Illinois Development Authority for a term endtng January 1998: John Fruit, of Edwardsville . To be members of the Southwestern Illinois Development Authority fo r terms ending January 17, 2000 : Joseph Behnken, of O 'Fallon ; Mark Descha ine, of Belleville ; Theodo re Prehn , of Bethalto . To be a member o f the Advisory Counc il on Spinal Cord and Head Injuries for a term ending June 30thr 1998: Susan Scherl, of Chicago . To be members of the Illinois Student Assistance Comm ission for a term end tng June 30, 2003: J . Robert Barry of Evanston ; Kay Tokunaga s of North Barrlng ton . To be a member of the Waukegan Port District Boa rd for a term 25 STATE O F ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 , 1997 ending May 31st, 2003: Robert L . Collinsy of Mettawa . To be a member of the Board of Trustees of Western Tllincis University for a term ending January 15r 2001: J. Michael Houston, of Springfield. To be a member of the Will County Metropolitan Exposition and Aud itorium Authority Boa rd fo r a term ending December 1st, 2001 : Scott Ward , o f Wilm ington . Madam President, having read the unsalaried appointments of May 21st, I now seek leave to consider these appointments on a roll call . And, Madam President, w ill you put the questlon as required by our rules?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) Any further d iscussicn? Any discussion? Hea rtng none , the questlon , does the Senate advlse and consene to the nominations just made. Those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted Who wlshed? Have all voted who w ished? Have a11 voted Who w ished? Take the -- 'the -- the record . On that questlon , there are 56 voting Aye , none voting No, none voeing Present. A majority of Senators elected concurring by record vote , the Senate does advise and consent to the nominations just made. Senator Carroll, the Chair would like to respond to to your query . Although the Sena te Rules do pe rm it a motion for postponed consideration , the Chair prefers that a motion pursuant to Senate Rule l0-l(d) be made. This Rule provides for a motian to reconstder. ...for what purpose do you rise, sir?
Thank you . Just for cla rification. As I understand What you 're saying is you eanno t postpone consideration . I believe , by the uay , fo r purposes of the record that that would be violative of the Illinois Constitution in the Executive Article , A rticle V , dealing with the appotnting powers , Section 9 , by the Governor r 26 STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 , 1997 that it says that lf we do no t act within slxty days basically says that is deemed an appointment. The Senate has taken record vote action . If you allowed postponed consideration , ycu would be , in effect, allowing a defeating of the Constitution and its sixty-day requirement. Your ruling seemed to be that -- not on postponed consideration , but a separate type of motion and -- and that was not the motion that was made .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) didn 't make I did not make a ruling , Senato r Carroll, postponed conslderaticn . A l1 I said r if you recall correctly , Senato r Carro ll, I said , that the Rules do pe rm it a motion for postponed consideration , but the Chair prefers tha t a motion pursuant to Senate Rule l0-1(d) be made. This Rule provides for a motion to reconsider. Senator Carroll .
Thank you , Madam President. I 'm glad to hear the Chair's preference . That was not the motion that was made .
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Carroll.
Why , thank you , Madam Fresident. And I do recall our Rules saying that a motlon to reconslder has ' to be made by someone vo ting on the prevailing side . So , Senato r Petka , do believe , voted in favor, though no t on the board , so he would not have been the prevailing side , so that motfon would not be in order under Senate Rules . 16 would have to have been someone who would - - had voeed on the preva iling side .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Petka .
Madam President, the Gentleman 's point is well-taken . I withdraw that motion . 27 STATE OP ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 , 1997
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Motion 's withdrawn . Senator Petka .
Madam President , move that the Senate arise from Executlve Session .
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Petka moves to arise from the Executlve Session. You 've heard the motion . Those in favor , say Aye . Those opposed y Nay / The motion carries . Senator Demuzio , what purpose do you rise?
On a point of personal p rivilege .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) State your point : sir.
Madam President: Fred Snodgrass r Who is one of our doorkeepers, has his seventy-second birthday t/day, and there 's a cake in the -- in the -- in front of me , down there , on -- on the Democratic side . So I 'd like tc recognlze Fred Snodgrass on his seventy-second birthday: and lnvite you al1 to have a ptece of his cake . So , happy birthday to Fred , Whe rever you are . PRESIDING OFFICER ; (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Happy birthday to Fred Snodq rass, and many more . ...Donahue , fo r what purpose do you rise , ma 'am ?
Thank you , Madam President . Point of personal privllege . PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) State your po intr ma 'am . SENATOR DONAHUE : In the Republican side of the aisle ga llery is a group from Baldwin Intermediate School in Quincy, and I'd just llke them to welcome them -- bo Qulncy -- o r, to Sprinqfield and have them rlse 28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 , 1997 and be recognized .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) W ill you all rise? Thank you for coming to Springfield and -- and enjoy your stay. We. welcome you. ...O'Malley: for what purpose do you risez sir?
A -- a point of personal p rivilege , Madam President.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) State your point , Senato r.
I would like to have us a1l Welcome here today the eighth-grade class from the South Side Baptist School from Oak Lawn. They 're lmmed iately above the President in the galle ry . wish you 'd stand and ...
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Will our guests please rise? And welcome to the Senate . ...be at ease for a moment or two . Resolutions .
Senate Resolution 87 , offered by Senator Ca rroll. Itfs substantive, Madam President.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Are there -- have there any motlons been filed , Mr. Secretary?
Yes, Madam President. Senator Butler has filed a motion W ith respect to the advise and consent of a gubernatorial appointment . PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) The M r. Secretary , the Chair requests that this motion be prlnted on a Calendar. So ordered . Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate , the Senate will stand recess until the call of the Chair. 29 STATE O F ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCR IPT 58th Leg islative Day May 29 , 1997 (SENATE STANDS IN RECESS) (SENATE RECONVENES)
The Senate will please come eo o rder. We 've had some requests for people to film and tape today : Fox 32, WTHI-TV , WSIL-TV , Illinois Thoroughbred Repo rt . 'Is there leave? Leave is granted . If could have your attention, please . If we could have the Members come out of their offices and get up on the Ploor, we W ill proceed w ith business . The Senate will once again come to o rder . . We have another request to tape this proceedings, WICS . Is leave granted? Leave is granted . We will now go into Executive Session for the purpose of advlse and consent . M r. Secretary , Comm iteee Reports .
Senato r Petka , Chairperson of the Comm lttee on Executive Appo intments , to which Was referred the Governor 's Messaqe of May 21st, 1997 , reported the same back .
Senato r Petka . SENATOR PETKA ; Thank you , M r. President . I move the Senate resolve itself into Executive Session for the purpose of acting on the Gcvernor's Appointment set fo rth in hls Message of May 21st.
You 've heard the motion . All those in favor, signify by saying Aye . Thcse opposed , Nay . The Ayes have it. The motion has carried ; we are in Executive Session . Supplemental Calendar No . l has been distributed . Motions in Writing . M r. Secretary , read the motion . 30 STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 , 1997
Pursuant to Senate Rule 7-15, and having voted on the prevailing side, I move to reconsider the vote by which the nom ination of James A . Maloof, to be a member of the Illinois Human Rights Commission , fa iled . The motion filed by Senator Butler .
Senator Butler -- having voted on the p revailing side, Senato r Butler moves to reèonsider the vote by which the nomination has failed . All those in favor, signify by saying Aye . Those -- those in favor -- Sena tor Butler wan es eo say something . Sena tor Butler, go right ahead .
Mr. President, pursuant to Senate Ru le 7-15: and having voted on the prevailing side, move to reconsider the vote by which the nomination of James A . Maloof , to be member of the Illino is Human Rights Comm ission r failed .
All those in favor, signlfy by voting Aye. Those oppcsed, Nay. The voting is open. Have you a l1 vcted who w ish? Have yo'u all voted who wish? Take the record . There are 32 votes -- voting Aye , there are 20 votes Nay , l vo ting Present . The motion carrtes . Senator Petka .
Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate . W ith respect to the Governor's Message of May 21str would like to read the salaried appotntment to which the Senate Comm ittee on Executive Appointment recomm ends the Senate do advise and consent: To be a member of the Illinois Human Rights Comm ission for a term ending January l5, 2001 : James Maloof, of Peoria : Illinois.
31 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 y 1997 Any diseussion? Senator Jacobs .
M r. President , Lad ies and Gentlemen of the Senate , we 've been through this before. Not going to take a 1ot of time, but I just want to make sure our Members are awa re of what is happening here , that We are reconsidering the vote on Mr . Maloof and whether o r not he should be on the Human Relations (sicl (Rights) Commission, with the cha rges that have been filed against him . think we 've wen't through the ' debate sufficiently before and just want to renind our Members of what we 're voting on here .
Any further d iscussion? If not, the question is, does the Senate advise and consent to the nomination just made. Those in favor will vote Aye . Those opposed , Nay . The voting is open . Have you a11 voted who wlsh? Have you a1l voted Whc wish? Take the record . On the question, there are 32 Ayesr 21 Nays , none voting Present. The majority of the Senators elected concu'rring by the record vote, the Senate does advtse and consent to the nomination just made. Senator Petka. Senator Petka.
Thank -- thank you , Mr . President. I would move now that we arise from Executlve Sesslon .
You dve heard the motion . Those favo r, signify by saying Aye . Those opposed , Nay . The motion ca rries . Senato r del Valle , for what purpose do you rise? SENATOR dEL VALLE : Thank you , Mr . President. Point of personal privilege .
State your point . SENATOR dEL VALLE : We have visiting today the Funston School from Chicago . Like STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 , 1997 to Welclme them to Springfteld .
Will they please rlse and be recognized by the Senate? PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR MAITLAND) v . . Reports.
Senato r Weaverr Chair of the Comm ittee on Rules, reports the follow ing Legislative Measu res have been assigned : Referred to the Conmittee on 'Enviro nment and Energy - Conference Comm lttee Reports to Senate B ill 939 and House B ill 21647 to the Comm ittee on Execueive - House Joint Resolutions 20 and 24; ko the Committee on Insurance and Pensions Conference Committbe Report to Senate Bill 423: to the Comm ittee on Judiciary Conference Comm ittee Report to Senate Bill 408; ta the Commtttee on Public Hea1th and Welfare - Senate AmendRents l and 2 to House Bill 204 and Amendment 1 to House Bill 1707 7 and Be Approved for Consideratlon Conference Committee Reports to House Bills 460 and 1111 (sic).
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR MAITLAND) Resolutions .
Senate Resolution 88: offered by Senator Demuzio . It 's a death resolution : Mr . P resident.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Consent Calendar . ...Repo rts.
Mr. President, a correction to the Rules Report just read. Under the O rder of Be App roved for Consideration, should have read Conference Conmittee Reports to Senate Bill 460 and House Bill 1121.
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR MAITLAND) . . . Mo1a ro , for What purpcse do you arise , sir?
33 STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 r 1997 A point of personal privilege .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) State your point, sir.
Point of infc rmation . I mean, is -- is there a subcomm ittee meeting going on on the Republican side of the aisle o r is this an open meeting or a committee meeting? Because it is , we 'd like to take part ln this .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Sena tor Molaro .
I -- I 'm going to walk over there ncw r as a matter of fact.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) All right. think that would be ...
Find out what 's going on .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) . . . well-advised . Thank you . Lad ies and Gentlemen r yau have distrtbuted on your desk Supplemental Calendar No . 2. If you Will be you would return to your seats and come back to order, we will be qoing to that Order of Business momentarily. A1l right. On page of Supplemental Calendar 'No . 2r on the Order of Concurrence , Comm ittee Reports . Mr . Secretary , do you have on file a conference comm ittee report on House Bill 1121?
Yes, M r. Presldent. The First Conference Comm ittee Report on House Bill 1121.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Peterson .
Thank you, M r. President. Conference Committee 1 on House Bill 1121 contains two bills that we p reviously passed out but 34 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29, 1997 needed some technical changes. The first part of the bill, the original bill, had to do with unsold m ineral rights . There were some problems that the title companies exp ressed after the bill passed from the Senatey and they were addressed the Conference Committee Report . And the other part is the Auto Leasing , Occupation and Use Tax , which the Department of Revenue had some more concerns about and wanted clarification . This ls the language agreed to by the municipalities so there 's no shortfall in their revenues , and I ask fo r a positive vote on the concurrence motion .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Al1 right. Is there -- is there dlscussion? Is there discussion? If not, the question is , shall the Senate adop e the Conference Comm ittee Repo rt on House B ill 1121. Those in favor w ill vote Aye . Opposed , Nay . The voting is open . Have a1l vc ted who w ish? Have a1l voted Who wish? Have all voted Who Wish? Take the recordr Mr. Secretary. On that queskion, there are Ayes , no Nays, no Members voting Present . The Senate does adopt tbe Conference Comm ittee Report on House Bill 1121 . And the bill , having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Okay . On Supplemental Calendar No . 2 on the Order of Conference Committee Reports . Mr . Secretary , do you have on file a conference comm ittee report With respect to House Senate Bill 460?
Yes, Mr. President . The First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 460 .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Cullerton .
Thank you r Mr . Presidenty Membe rs of the Senate . This is an issue which we have debated in the past. I think that most people 35 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 , 1997 know what -- what does . -- the bill has two p rovlsions . One is to amend the Sectlon of the Crim inal Code that deals w ith p rovldlng for a trlal absentla and extends that to lnclude m isdemeanors . Right now lt only covers felonies . The second issue deals with the issue of elig ibility to run for office . A person who 's been convicted of a felony , right ncw , can run for offices like State Rep resentative , State Senator and statewide offtces , but they can 't run for municipal . What this bill says is that convicted felons cannot run for any office the State of Illinots. And does make an exception, however: if you have been elected . you have been a conviction -- have a felony conviction and you dve been elected , you can run for reelection , but reeleetion only . Be happy to answer any questions and ask fo r an Aye vote .
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR MAITLAND) Is there discussion? Senator Dudycz .
Thank you , Mr . President . I stand in support of Senate Bill 460, as amended . Senator Cullerton had acceded to the wishes of the Members of this Body and has made a -- a bill Whlch we had some concerns about, regarding felons runnin: for public officç, he has made -- he has addressed those concerns . So that anyone who is , from th is polnt forward , interested in runnlng fo r public office anywhere in the State a f Illinois cannot be a felon, let alone anyone who is currently serving in office would not be d isenfranchised , having been already elected by their voters . - - commend Senator Cullerton . would urge everyone to vote fo r this bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Is there further discussion? not r the -- Senator Berman .
Question of the sponsor? 36 STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 , 1997
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR MAITLAND) Indicates he will yteld , Senator Berman.
Senator Cullerton , if I g ive you th is hypothetical: would you explain to me the rationale behind this bill? When I was a young man - very r very young man - I was picked up with some drugs , and was convicted of a felony and put on five years ' p robation . Thirty years pass, and I have been an outstand ing cltizen in those thirty years, and I want to run for Senato r'for the State Senate from the near north side of Chicago . Why shouldn 't the voters of my district decide whether that felony should o r should not , by voting no, disqualify me, rath/r than this disqualifying me?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Cullerton .
Well, Senator, response , first of for Rinor d ru: possession , we have on the books what 's called 1410 proba tion, where -- or 1310 probation . You don 't get a eonviction . You -- you dre , effect , put on a period of like supervision and once your that period is over, you wouldn 't get a conviction . However r if you did get a felony convlction , the -- my advice to you , in order to be able to run for office , would be to get a pa rdon from the Gcvernor . Because if there is a pa rdon granted from the Governor: that conviction then would be Wiped out and you 'd be eligible to run .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Further discussion? If not: the question is , shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 460. Those in favor will vo te Aye . Opposed , Nay . The voting is open . Have a1l voted who wish? Have all voted Who w ish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Sec/etary. On that question, there are 48 Ayes, no -- 6 Nays r no Members voting Present . The Senate 37 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legisla tive Day May 29, 1997 does adopt the Conference Comm ittee Report on Senate Bill 460 . And the bill , havlng received the required constitutlonal majority, is declared passed. Senator Watson, for what purpose do you arise sir?
Yes. Thank you r M r. President . Point of personal p rivilege .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MATTLAND) State your point, sir .
Yes . We have a group he re from the St. Peter Lutheran School in my district, with their teacher, Mike Urban, and they 're in the President's Gallery. And 1. 'd appreciate it we Would welccme them and have them stand and be recognized by the Senate .
PRESIDTNG OFFTCER: (SENATOR MATTLAND) Would our guests in the gallery please rise and be recognized by the Senate? Welecme to Springfield . Senator Syverson, for what purpcse do you arise , sir?
Thank you , M r. President . We W ill be holdtng a Public Health Committee meeting in Room 400: Y t 4:45. 4145 tonight. We'11 be discussing amendments to House Bill 204 and House Bill 1708 -- 1707, excuse me , which is the welfare and child support bills.
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR MAITLAND) All right. Thank you . Senator Lauzen ' for what purpose do you a rise , sir?
Thank you, Mr . President. Inadvertently , pressed the wrong switch on Senate Bill 460, Conference Committee . I 'd like the record to record a %es vote .
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Lauzeny the record will -- will accurately reflect what your intent would have been. Senato r Klemm , for what purpose 38 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 , 1997 do you arise , sir?
COr pur#oses Of an announcement.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MATTLAND) State your announcement .
The Senate Executive Comm ittee has been recessed until a fte r We adjourn today. So, Members of the Senate Executive Committee, as soön as we adjourn, please eone to Room 212, and w 'e'll complète our business. Thank you .
PRESIDING OFPICER : (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Rlemm, just let me make one correction. 0ur intent is to -- to recess ae this point, instead of adjourn offlcially. So the Executive Comm ittee will be meeting after we recess , is that correct? Thank you . Ladles and Gentlemen, momentartly We are golng to recess , and the purpose of recessing rather than to adjourn will be to receive any paper that night ' be comlng over from -- from the House. Senato r Demuzio , for what purpose do you arise? SENATOR DEMUZIO J Yes , I 'd like to ask Senator Klemm a question , I m ight, wlth respect to the Executive Committee reconvenlng . The Rules Committee just approved, and was read into the recordr two additional resolutions to be referred to the Executive Comm ittee . I'm wcndering if we could waive the postin: requ irements and ask that they be heard th is afternoon and get those out of the way , it 's -- it 's with the Senator 's -- meets with the Senator 's app roval? PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Klenm .
Well, they do requ ire a slx-day posting notice and it has not 39 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCR IPT 58th Legislattve Day May 29 , 1997 been our policy to Waive the posting no tices . So , as -- a11 I know r that We do have resolutions tha t had been properly posted that we did not dispose of during our meeting earlier .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senator Demuzio .
Wellr Senatcr Klemm: you know as well as I do the adjournment date is Saturday , and anyone wculd know that by postlng that would mean next week . mean , it seems to ' me tha t these a re noncontroversial and as a result y by simply wa iving the rules , that -- it just seems to me it uould be fieeing and proper that we do it . I think one ts for the blind and another deals w ith regional superintendents , think , in the education area . So , just seems to me that maybe we ought to just do that.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Klemm , for what purpose do you rise?
For purpose of a motion . PRESIDING OPFICER) (SENATOR DONAHUE) State your motion .
Well I'd lkke to re-refery from the Executive Commlttee, House Jo fnt Resolution 20 and 24 back to the Senate Rules Comm ittee .
PRESIDING OPFICER : (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Klemm .
We found another p rocedure, so 1 '11 w tthd raw my motion . PRESIDfNG OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Weleh , for what purpose do you rise? SENATOR WELCH : Inquiry of the Chair, Madam President . PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) 40 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCR IPT 58th Leglslative Day May 29 , 1997 State you r inquiry .
The previous person sitting in your Chair said that we Would recess until we got some paperwork . Do you expect that We will be voting on anyth ing after the -- We come back in? Will there be any recorded votes, or is that it for the day?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Actually, Senator, We 've done this frequently , to where We leave the Chair opev in order t: receive paper from the House. It ls not our intention to have any votes . On the Order of Secretary 's Desk , Concu rrence , at the bottom of page 8, is Senate Bill 797. Senator Philip . M r. Secretary . Oh . Senator Philip .
Thank ycu , Madam President. I move the Senate nonconcur on Senate Bill -- excuse me , 797.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator -- Sénator Philip moves that the Senate ncnconcur in House Amendments l and 2 to Senate B ill 797 . A1l those ln favor , say Aye . Opposed , Nay . The Ayes have it, and the motion earrtes . If J could have your attention. As the Chair indicatedr we are awaiting paper from the House and we will -- it is our intent to recess till the call of the Chair. We have comm tttee meettngs to meet, and we w ill reconvene -- orr come back in the morning at 10 a .m . That 's the tlme that we 'll be back in -- in the Senate Cbapbers - 10 a .m . in the morning . The Senate stands in recess .
PRESIDING OFPICER : (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Rarp iel , for what purpose do you rise?
Before a11 the Members get out -- out of my -- out of hearing , and can 't hear me' I want to 1et you know that there is a Republican Caucus immediately in Senato r Philip 's Office . A Republican Caucus immediately . A l1 Members be there , please . 41 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 58th Legislative Day May 29 , 1997
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR MAITLAND) . . . K1emm , fo r What purpose do you arlse , sir?
Yes . Thank you ; Mr. President. Fo r purpcse of an announcement.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAJTLAND) State your announcement, Senator Klemm .
We have had' a change, againr in the Executive Commiétee meeting , because of the Caucus that the Republicans a re going to be holdlng . We w ill now meet at 9 a .m ., tomorrow , Friday . So that would be what? - May 30th . So , 9 a .m ., in Room 212, we kill complete our business , and that will allow everybcdy to finish over in the -- in the House . Okay .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) Senate Executive Comm ittee will meet tomorrow at 9 a .m . in Room 212 . Senate stands in recess to the call of ehe Chair'. (SENATE STANDS IN RECESS) (SENATE RECONVENES)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) . . . further business to ûome be fore the Senate? If nct , Senator Peterson moves the -- the Senate stand adjourned until a .m ., Friday, May 30th . 42 REPORT: TIFLDAY STATE OF ILLINOIS 98/07/01 PAGE: 001 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY 13:17:44 SENATE DAILY TRANSCRIPTIOK OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 29, 1997 HB-1121 CONFERENCE PAGE 3: SB-0460 CONFERENCE PAGE 35 SB-0:60 OTHER PAGE 38 58-0797 NON-CONCURRENCE PAGE k1 SR-0087 RESOLPTION OFFERED PAGE 29 5R-0088 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 33 HJR-0020 DISCUSSED PAGE 39 HJR-002) DISCUSSED PAGE 39 SEBJECT MATTER SENâTE T0 ORDER-PRESIDENT PHILIP PAGE PRAYER-SENATOR GEO-KARIS PAGE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIàNCE PAGE JOURNALS-APPROVED PâGE JOPRNALS-POSTPONED PAGE HESSAGES FROH THE HOUSE PAGE COHMITTEE REPORTS PAGE EXECUTIVE SESSION-APPOINTHENTS PAGE COHMITTEE REPORTS PAGE REHARKS CONCERNING J. HALOOF âPPOINTMENT PAGE ARISE FROM EXECPTIVE SESSION PAGE HOTION FILED REGARDING GUBERNATORIAL àPPOINTMENT PAGE SENATE STANDS IN RECESS PAGE SENATE RECONVENES PAGE COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE EXECUTIVE SESSION-CONSIDER MOTION PAGE ARISE FROH EXECPTIVE SESSION PAGE COMHITTEE REPORTS PAGE SENATE STANDS IN RECESS PAGE SENâTE RECONVENES PAGE ADJODRNMENT PAGE