Illinois House Floor Debate — April 27, 2017

"The House will be in order. Members will be in their chairs. We shall be led in prayer today by Dr. Zachery Lee who's the Reverend at the Mount Paran Missionary Baptist Church in East St. Louis. Dr. Lee is the guest of Representative Greenwood. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off cell phones and rise for the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance. Dr. Lee."

"We shall be led in the Pledge by Representative Winger."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Mr. Andersson. Mr. Demmer. Who would like to give… Mr. Andersson."

"Thank you. Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record show that there are no excused absences among House Democrats today." 10000040.docx 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"In other words, we have a full House. Mr. Clerk, take the record. Ladies and Gentlemen, we have 118 Members answering the roll this morning. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

"Leader Currie moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Committee Reports."

"Mr. Brady is recognized."

"Proceed."

"Welcome to the Capitol. Thanks for being with us today. Ladies and Gentlemen, continuing Bills that are on the priority list. House Bill 7… on Second Reading, House Bill 795, Mr. Halpin. Please read the Bill." 10000040.docx 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Third Reading. House Bill 2525, Mr. Hoffman. Mr. Hoffman. Out of the record. House Bill 2622, Representative Fine. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Fine on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Amendment takes away some of the concerns of the opposition. It says that… it's with the state-based workers' comp fund. Independent insurance agencies can also sell those policies."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read House Bill 2622 on Third Reading."

"Representative Fine."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Over the past several years in this House we've been talking about different ways that we can prove workers' comp in the State of Illinois. We've talked about in the different ways what we've done with the Bill in 10000040.docx 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 2011. And then, a group of us decided let's see what other states are doing. And what we've found successful in 27 other states is a state-based workers' comp fund. So, what this legislation would do would be creating a not-for-profit workers' comp fund that could sell only workers' comp insurance in the State of Illinois."

"Mr. Andersson."

"Sponsor yields."

"What it would do is it would start out with a loan from the state of $10 million to be repaid within five years. And the state would currently only be responsible for putting together a board and eventually, everything would be moved over to the board and that loan would be repaid within five years."

"That is correct."

"The $10 million loan would come from the Workers' Compen… Workers' Compensation Commission Operations Fund. Currently, that fund has about $28 million in it. And soon, in the next four months, it will be receiving 28 million more."

"That's non-GRF." 10000040.docx 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"I'm sorry. Can you ask the question again?"

"Well, it's not really a prohibition. It's just making sure that the members of the board don't have financial interest."

"Or any conflicts of interest."

"No. Anybody can have a history of working on workers' comp, but you just can't currently have a conflict of interest or any financial interest in what the company would do."

"Correct. At the current time, correct."

"Representative Ives."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes, it would."

"Well, in 2011 we know that we passed workers' compensation insurance that was supposed to save our companies purchasing workers' comp up to 18 percent. And our businesses had said that they had not realized those savings. So, by establishing this fund and the success we've seen with other funds in other states, we'd be able to sell this insurance with little to no profit. And so, the savings would really be passed on to the businesses in the State of Illinois."

"So, this would not be owned by the state. This would be a startup and it would be a not-for-profit."

"Absolutely not. The loan would be made out of $10 million and would be paid back with interest. And the company would actually be owned by those who seek insurance from this workers based fund. It's based on what we saw in the Missouri model that has been extremely successful."

"There are about 300 that are licensed to sell, but most don't. And this would just give our employers another option."

"But the top 25 workers' comp providers in Illinois sell to about 40 percent of the market. And this is something that would help the businesses in the State of Illinois. My businesses in my district have told me they are tired of paying these inflated prices for those workers' comp 10000040.docx 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 insurance. So, this would just merely give them another option where they can purchase those plans."

"Those businesses all represent insurers. And if I could just do a little history of what we were supposed to see in 2011 when the legislation passed. Our medical fee payments were cut 30 percent; our… we expanded the use of the American Medical Association guidelines for assessing permanent and partial disability benefits; we restricted the PPD wage 10000040.docx 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 differential benefits to the latter age of 67 or five years after the injury. And we cut PPD for most carpal tunnel cases for 20 percent and reduced the basis upon which benefits are calculated by 7.5 percent. Ironically, when we presented this Bill in committee, the man who was representing the opponents of the legislation pretty much freely said that what's so wrong about the insurance industry making a profit? And what we're saying is they can continue to make that profit, but let's give our business owners another opportunity. Let's look at the success we've seen in other states and mirror that success here in Illinois."

"So, what we have seen our national insurance providers have said that based on the laws that were changed in Illinois, our businesses should be seeing a… at least an 18 percent decrease in the price they're paying for workers' comp insurance. The Illinois's average medical cost for workers' comp claims are absolutely plummeting including a drop of 15.3 percent in one year alone. So, even though those fees are going down, our employers are still seeing no relief. This would give them one more option to find that relief."

"Mr. Wheeler." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Wheeler, K.: "Good morning, Representative."

"Good morning." Wheeler, K.: "We talked about this in committee and I want to just briefly reiterate for the record what the purpose of this Bill is. Why we're creating one more company is going to make a difference from your perspective."

"By creating a not-for-profit company, this is a business- friendly piece of legislation. As the previous speaker just mentioned, we had a company merge and leave the state and go to Florida because of their workers' comp rate. Had this already been in place that may not have happened because they would have been able to save money on their workers' comp insurance." 10000040.docx 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 Wheeler, K.: "Representative, you tell us that there's a $10 million loan that's going to start this company up. What other investment will take place to grow this company?"

"From the state, the $10 million loan will be repaid within five years plus interest and that's what we’ve seen in the other states that have started this. And that is the only investment that will be paid back." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you. But my question has to do with how much other money’s going to be invested in this not-for-profit company that will allow it to actually insure these companies?"

"All… all the money that will come into the company after the 10 million will be coming from selling premiums. And the way it's currently setup is $1 in reserve equals $3 available in premium sales. So, if the company has $7 million in reserve left after they set up the company, it can sell up to $21 million in premiums." Wheeler, K.: "Okay. But $21 million in premium in the State of Illinois in this environment the exposure that we place on companies with our current workers' compensation laws means that you're not going to be able to cover very many companies for a very long time. And that's the reason I want to talk about… when we talked about this Bill in committee, taking us from 332 companies that offer workers' compensation insurance to 333 companies that offer workers' compensation insurance you're not going to impact the market well enough to have a… a true impact, the one you're actually, I think, trying to get at. Which is why… I understand your purpose of the Bill and I appreciate the intention, I don't think it's going to 10000040.docx 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 have the impact you want. In fact, I'm certain it's not going to have the impact you want because $10 million to start the company up, you're setting aside 3 million for start-up costs… that's not enough. You can't even get your message out with $3 million in a state this large. Secondly, the exposure is going to absorb what you're willing to cover is just going to wipe out the idea of having very many customers for a very long time. This is maybe well-intentioned from the perspective of being pro-business, but in reality, it's not going to do what you want it to do. You compare this to other states like Kentucky in committee. Is that correct?"

"Yes. It's been successful in 27 other states. And the state would not be responsible for any debt. After that $10 million loan is repaid, the state is out of it, financially, the state is out of it. That is our only responsibility with the upfront cost." Wheeler, K.: "Right. So, I understand the exposure to the state. I'm trying to say that you're trying to get this insurance company to serve lots of companies throughout the state so you can there have… thereby have competition that's currently… currently that's not occurring in your opinion, which is occurring in every other version of how I look at things from a business owner's perspective. This is not going to solve the problem. To the Bill. Other states like Kentucky may have started this with $7 million. We're at several times larger than Kentucky population wise and we're trying to start this with 10 million. Our workers' compensation costs are far outweigh what happens in Kentucky and yet, somehow, we're going to be able to make this work with a small amount of 10000040.docx 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 money. Secondly, the intention behind this Bill is because insurance company profits are what's keeping workers' compensation costs for employers high. If you took all the profit out of what workers' compensation companies make, you still would not make a dent in getting Illinois back down to the middle of the pack when it comes to workers' compensation costs. While it may be well-intentioned, this Bill will not work. I urge a 'no' vote."

"Mr. Reick."

"Sponsor yields."

"So, like I've mentioned earlier, you need $1 in reserve for every $3 in premium sales. So, we are starting our model with a $10 million loan and considering $3 million will go to all the start-up costs, so that will leave us $7 million to sell premiums and that would be $21 million in premium."

"So, our $10 million is based on what has been successful in other states. And right now, in 8 states that have state- based workers' comp fund, more than 50 percent of their workers' comp sales come from this not-for-profit type company."

"No. What we're saying is, we're giving consumers another option. You can… It's just like shopping at a store. You could shop at whatever store you want or you can shop at a store that has a lower price. People are probably going to stick… some businesses will stick with their current plan because the fact they like the people they work with."

"Other businesses are going to look for ways to save. This is one other option. And we have other Bills that are going to be coming up in these next couple days that are going to do other reforms to workers' comp insurance in order to save our businesses more money." 10000040.docx 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"I'd have to say I do disagree with you because the business model is based on 20 ever… 27 other states that have found success in this type of model."

"We're working on that and trying to mirror the Missouri model."

"We are not going to develop the business model. It is the board that is going to be appointed by the Governor that is going to develop this particular model. And what we would like to do is base it on the models that we have seen to be a success in these other states where they sell more than half of their workers' comp fund from this type of business."

"No, I'm not saying that. We can look and see what's in the other state, but I cannot tell this appointed board what to do. That is going to be up to them and they're going to be the ones who are more the experts."

"Representative Ammons."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?" 10000040.docx 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Sponsor yields."

"Thank you, Sir. Representative, I think I heard in debate just a few seconds ago that there are 27 other states…"

"That is correct."

"…that have this kind of model. Can you… can you give me just a little bit of background on how it operates in a couple of those that you may be aware of?"

"So… so, where we see these programs taking place are in states like Kentucky, Missouri, California, Colorado, Iowa, Hawaii, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana, Minnesota, et cetera, et cetera. And what they have found is by setting up this independent company, who is not necessarily worried about making a profit but worried about giving proper insurance to the businesses that need it in the State of Illinois because, we have to remember, companies are mandated to buy workers' comp insurance in the State of Illinois. So, we don't provide them with something at a reasonable price. That's when we see the problems start taking place."

"And so, is it your contention by establishing such a system in Illinois that you would… the board that's established to do this would, in essence, be able to provide lower cost workers' compensation insurance?"

"Absolutely. Because like I said, based on the changes that were made in 2011, our companies should be experiencing at least an 18 percent decrease in what they are paying out in workers' comp and they're not. And this is a way that we can ensure that they are seeing those savings."

"So, why aren't they experiencing it… the 18 percent under the current system that they say is working well?" 10000040.docx 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"That's a question you would have to ask the industry. But like I mentioned, when we were in committee, industry mentioned that they have made a profit."

"And so, my final question to this is, if this is… if this passes and this committee is set up, how is it formulated? Is it just something that we get to choose or who chooses who's going to run this… this nonprofit organization?"

"Right. We… In the Bill it outlines how the board of directors would be appointed by the Governor and the CEO and how the actuaries would be hired and that's… that's listed in detail in the legislation. So, really what we're doing is we're starting this up and then the experts are taking it from there."

"Thank you so much. To the Bill. I think this is a great opportunity for us to not only set up a system that exists in half of the country, but also to provide the true savings that businesses claim that they really, really need in order to hire more employees. And so, to build in a nonprofit system that looks without regard to board members personal gain, in that insurance company we want a system that will allow them to experience the true savings that should be available in worker's compensation insurance. And so, I appreciate you, Representative, for bringing this as a great solution to what has started as reforms in 2011 around workers' compensation, but this gives us another step forward in bringing down the cost of workers' compensation insurance. And I urge an 'aye' vote." 10000040.docx 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"We have seven speakers remaining on this Bill. Mr. Phillips is recognized."

"Sponsor yields."

"This does not prevent the company, once it's out of state hands, from taking a private loan to pay for its expenses in order for it to be forward. You're right. There are businesses that struggle in the beginning to get off their feet and get moving, but like I said, 27 other states have done this successfully and I think Illinois can jump on that bandwagon, make it 28 states. And really, the… a piece of legislation 10000040.docx 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 and an option that's pro-business because it would give businesses another option."

"That would be great. You could do it with the board when they are nominated by the Governor and then confirmed by the Senate. You could have your input on the board. As a business owner, I think what should irk you the most is insurers have grown in profit since 2011 by 15 percent and the amount the premiums they pay on claims is 50 percent. And so, as a business owner, I think you should talk to whoever's providing you with your workers' comp insurance to find out where are your savings."

"Mr. Demmer."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes."

"That's something that the board would have to discuss. But let me point out to you, as well, as I had mentioned the 10000040.docx 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 insurance companies have made quite a bit of a profit since the 2011 legislation has been put in. Because this is a not- for-profit, the actuarial rates would be similar in our company versus every other company. But because this company would not have to be concerned about making a profit that money would be saved by the businesses who are the consumers."

"I can't tell you what rates are going to do in the future."

"Well, cost of living adjustments, rates go up on everything every year. But does that mean, even if the rates go up, they're not going to be less than what the other insurance companies are providing? That is the goal of this legislation."

"Something I know that would actually reduce rates would be rate review so that our insurance companies have to abide by the rates that are considered a good adjustment."

"So, I think one of the benefits of this company is because of the fact that we're going to repay that loan within five years. It's no longer then the responsibility of the state. And then it would be in the marketplace for competition with the other companies. Like I said, we have seen success in 27 other states able to provide workers' comp insurance at lower 10000040.docx 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 rates because they're not-for-profit. And that's our goal to help our companies in the State of Illinois."

"Mr. Batinick."

"Sponsor yields."

"Right. Again, the $10 million would come from the Illinois Workers' Compensation Commission Operations Fund." 10000040.docx 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"There's about $28 million in the fund right now."

"Right, in about four months we'll have another 28 million coming in."

"You would have to sweep that fund that goes toward workers' comp insurance in order to use that money for the universities."

"Any company in the State of Illinois that's mandated to purchase workers' comp insurance."

"Well, I think once they see it up and working and they see how it's going to save their businesses money, it's going to change their mind." 10000040.docx 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Mr. Guzzardi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. Just to respond to a couple of comments from the other side. The Gentleman from Dixon talked about if we open this company might prices go up. It seems to me sort of antithetical to some core principles that the other side expounds quite frequently which is a competition in the open marketplace drives costs down. So, it's hard for me to see why you all would be opposed to adding an additional competitor to the open marketplace. It seems like based on free market principles that ought to drive costs down. So, it's hard for me to follow the line of argument that's suggested this might somehow make workers' compensation more expensive. And to my colleague from the 63rd District who suggested that the only not-for-profit grocery stores he ever heard of are in the Soviet Union, well, I invite you to come visit me in the people's republic of Logan Square where we have a cooperatively owned grocery store, the Dill Pickle Co-op. It's a nonprofit grocery store and the shelves are stocked just fine, I assure you. Thank you very much."

"Mr. Hoffman." 10000040.docx 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would just like to… if I could, I would just like to go through where we've been on this issue and where we're trying to go. Number 1) we had a Committee of the Whole hearing on the issue of workers' compensation. Number 2) we had subject matter hearings in front of the Labor Committee. Number 3) we passed a substantial Bill that would… would go a long way to reduce costs to employers last year that was a cumulative effort of everyone on this side of the aisle. In all of those efforts, while the people on the other side of the aisle continue to say they want to reduce the rates that employers pay and the premiums that employers pay, they've done nothing or put nothing forward that'll actually do that. You could talk all you want about primary cause standards or reducing the reimbursements to providers like hospitals and doctors or reducing the benefits of injured workers. All of that has been done or looked at in 2011. The testimony is clear. There should have been a 30 percent reduction in premiums as a result of cost reductions in our 2011 reforms. Why isn't there? Why isn't there? It's simple. It's simple, but you guys don't want to face it. You don't want to face the fact that insurance companies are taking these reduced costs and padding their pockets. Now, if that's not the case… if that is not the case… if that's not the case and it's truly a competitive market, why… what do you fear of House Bill 2622? Let them go into the market. Let's make sure there is a competitive market. Now, there's 27 other states that do this, 27 other states. They're liberal bastions such as Idaho; that's a liberal bastion. Kentucky, Louisiana, New Mexico, 10000040.docx 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 Texas, Utah, Oklahoma, South Carolina, all Republican-led states, every single one of them. Yet, they decided that they were going to make sure that the insurance market was competitive by having a state-run system that's going to compete in the marketplace. It's that simple. There is relatively no risk. There's certainly no risk to our General Fund and $10 million is coming out of a special fund that we've swept in the past. It's sitting there ready to do something good for employers in Illinois. We should have one goal and one goal only, that's reducing the cost of premiums that employers pay. That should be our goal. So, that we can make them competitive vis-à-vis Missouri, Iowa, Kentucky, Wisconsin, Indiana and other states. Those states have either prior approval of insurance rates or they have a state-run system that competes in the marketplace. Why can't you just say and be honest about it. You want to defend an insurance industry that has enhanced their profits as a result of cost reductions and benefit reductions that we passed in 2011. Serious, at least if you were honest about it we could… we could at least say, well, if you want to… if you want to… if you want to defend an insurance industry here in the State of Illinois that's raping the employers and not giving them competitive rates in Illinois and not passing on the cost savings that we should be passing on to consumers, that'd be one thing, but to hide behind… to hide behind the argument that this isn't going to work, when it's worked in 27 other states, that it's worked in Republican and Democratic states. The Representative has followed that model. She's put it up for a vote. And this Bill would do nothing more… nothing more 10000040.docx 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 than allow further competition in the marketplace and help reduce the cost to employers throughout Illinois. That's why you should be voting 'aye'."

"Representative Conroy."

"Thank you, Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, since 2011 we know that certain things have drastically changed in terms… in terms of workmen's compensation. One, we know that the awards have been drastically lowered, correct?"

"That's correct."

"We also know that the attorneys' fees have been capped at 20 percent, correct?"

"That's correct."

"So, this has been interesting for my family because my family has a personal experience with workmen's comp. And it was after the law was changed. In our situation, I had an experience where we spent a lot of time working with the workmen's comp attorney for an injury. We were explained… it was explained to us that the attorneys' fees had been capped at 20 percent and that the awards had been drastically lowered because so many had been taking advantage of the system. So, fast-forward another year and I find myself in office as a State Representative with a district that has a very large industrial area. So, I begin touring my district and all of the industrial companies that are there. And when I do, I find myself asking them about their workmen's compensation. I ask them about the changes to the law and if they have helped them at all. And what they've told me is that, yes, 10000040.docx 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 while the premium… what they are paying out has gone down. What the attorneys are receiving has gone down. Their premiums have not gone down. I continue to do so and as I continue to tour these businesses, now they are not only telling me they have not only not gone down, but many of them have gone up. I believe this Bill will create a savings for these businesses and we have done everything else we can possibly do. I believe the issue is that insurance companies are making way too much money and that is why we have so many in the business. I believe these other 27 states have shown that half of their companies have gone to the state… the state plan because they are seeing a savings. Thank you, Representative, for this. And would certainly encourage a 'yes' vote."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes. We have about 330 companies that are licensed to sell workers' comp insurance in Illinois, but most of them do not."

"I don't have the exact number in front of me, but I do know that the top 25 workers' comp providers in Illinois have about 40 percent of the market."

"Well, every company in the State of Illinois is mandated to have workers' comp insurance."

"So, any company of any size could purchase from this workers' comp not-for-profit."

"That $10 million would cover the first $21 million in premium."

"As we have said earlier, the Illinois Workers' Compensation Commission Operations Fund. It currently has $28 million in it and in four months, it will have an additional $28 million. And that's where the start-up money will be coming from."

"Well, the money is put there for the operation of the commission."

"And it… it comes from…"

"…it comes from companies that sell workers' comp insurance. I believe it's .01 per… it's… the fund is supported by a surcharge of 1.01 percent on all workers' comp insurance and premium sold in the year prior."

"Yes."

"Mmm mmm."

"It's a company."

"But their… their employees…"

"…their employees will pay taxes, but the company itself is not-for-profit."

"You know, what I don't understand with these arguments is the basis of this workers' comp insurance company is to save our businesses money. If our businesses save money on this workers' comp insurance, they could spend that money elsewhere. It could be an employee pay. It could be in 10000040.docx 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 something else. And this is how we're going to get more money into our economy and more money going towards taxes."

"This is on…"

"…this is only starting out with a $10 million loan from the state. Then what happens is the board is nominated by the Governor and confirmed by the Senate and then the state steps out. And then it's a not-for-profit company and the State of Illinois is not running the business."

"It's very explicit…"

"…in the terms and it's highlighted in the Bill. And I believe the term is four years."

"Right. We're going to get experienced people who know what they're doing on workers' comp to be appointed by the Governor, confirmed by the Senate, so we can see success in this company. There's nothing wrong with seeing a successful business thrive in the State of Illinois. And I think by having this in place it's going to help the other employers in our state." 10000040.docx 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"The tax doll… these… these are not tax dollars. This comes from the Workers' Compensation Commission Operations Fund that are paid for by the insurance company based on 1.01 percent of their premium."

"That fund will be paid back within five years."

"But that will be repaid…"

"It will be paid back with interest within five years."

"I don't think it's insane."

"We've seen it be successful elsewhere. If it's been so successful in 27 other states where they're selling more than half of their workers' comp premium and their businesses are happy with these companies, what is insane?"

"No, I have not, but I've learned quite about it these last three years while I've been researching this legislation." 10000040.docx 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"We passed some good legislation this year; however…"

"The state…"

"…the state is not running this insurance company."

"We are appointing experts to run these companies."

"But then the people on the board are going to be hiring employees and the employees are not going to be political appointees. They're…"

"…they're going to be actuaries." 10000040.docx 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"We are giving the opportunities for outside insurance agents to sell this policy to their customers as well. So, this is giving our independent insurance agents another opportunity of a product."

"Representative Fine to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This piece of legislation is a pro-business, pro-consumer piece of legislation. It is going to provide another opportunity for our companies to save money when it comes to purchasing workers' comp insurance. The reason state workers' comp companies are successful, the ones that we've seen in 27 other states, are because they focused 10000040.docx 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 heavily on safety, and they avoid accidents. They only carry one line of insurance which is workers' comp. And the company does not have a profit motive. So, in this one piece of legislation, not only are we going to resolve many of the issues when it comes to workers' comp insurance, but it's going to be business-friendly and worker-friendly at the same time. And I encourage your 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 67 voting 'yes', 51 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Turner in the Chair."

"House Bill 2461, Representative McAsey. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative McAsey."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 2461 requires that information that is currently collected and maintained by the State Board of Education regarding gifted education and instruction including programs and number of certified teachers be displayed on school report cards. We know that there's been a sharp decrease in the offering of the gifted programs. Over the last… from 20… 2003, 85 percent of schools had them; 2016 only 27 percent. And we know that minority and low-income students have been really disproportionately impacted by this. So, we're hoping to shed 10000040.docx 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 some light on this and make these gifted and academically advanced students more visible, ensure that our bright students don't fall through the cracks and have more information to allow policymakers to better do their jobs. I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Representative Andersson is recognized."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Thank you so much for that question. This is data that is already collected and maintained by the Illinois State Board of Education. So, the schools are already transmitting this to ISBE. All that we are saying is, hey, ISBE you've got it. Please put it in an area where it's visible to the public and to educators by including it on school report cards. There's no additional mandate. And ISBE, the agency, is neutral on the Bill. They did suggest a technical Amendment with regard to some definitions, which was put on this legislation."

"I do not believe so."

"Thank you."

"Representative McAsey to close." 10000040.docx 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 2461 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 116 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2461, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3150… 57, Representative Harper. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill. Mr. Clerk, please move this Bill back to the Order of Second Reading and read the Bill."

"Representative Harper."

"Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members. The… the Amendment changes and makes the Department of Public Health the primary agency on the Bill to track the food desert. It also removes opposition from the Department of Agriculture."

"Representative Harper moves that the House adopt Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 3157. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative DeLuca, for what reason do you seek recognition?" 10000040.docx 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Thank you, Speaker. I'll be brief. A point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed, Sir."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, I'd like to recognize a constituent who's here with us today. Please stand, Lisa. This is one of the finest people you'll ever meet. You may remember her from the Comcast Newsmakers. This is my good friend Lisa Aprati from the City of Chicago Heights. Good to see you, Lisa. Give her a warm welcome."

"Thank you. And welcome to your Capitol. Leader Bellock, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

Speaker Turner: "Thank you. And welcome to your Capitol. Representative McAuliffe, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Please proceed, Sir."

"Thank you. House Bill 3817, Representative… Out of the record. House Bill 2732, Representative Beiser. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Beiser."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a clean-up Bill at the request of the Illinois Emergency… or the Environmental Protection Agency. In 19… or in the 99th General Assembly, there was a Bill passed that tau… took away their ability to regulate biosolids. Biosolids can contain some sort of waste that they need to be able to regulate going forward. So, this is simply cleaning up a Bill from last year."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 2732 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 114 voting 'yes', 4 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2732, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3036, Representative Walsh. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Walsh."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 3036 amends the Counties Codes. It provides that by January 1, 2019, each county shall adopt and implement a predictable fee schedule that eliminates surcharges and other 10000040.docx 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 additional fees to record… to record standard documents with the county recorder. This is an initiative of the Illinois Land and Title Association and the Illinois Association of County Clerks and Recorders. And basically, it's making recording fees more predictable and uniform across the state to avoid consumer confusion and streamline the recording process for companies involved in the transaction and county officials recording the documents. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 3036 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 81 voting 'yes', 32 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3036, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, Committee Reports."

"Representative Gordon-Booth, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you so much, Mr. Speaker, for your indulgence. Gentlemen, if you could please rise so that all the Ladies and women of the House of Representatives can see you. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is the 5A State Championship 10000040.docx 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 High School Football Team from Peoria, Illinois, Peoria High School, the pride of the city. Please give them a resounding round of applause. These… these are some resilient, phenomenal young men that are truly the pride and joy of our city. They are resilient because they fought any number of obstacles. There was a young man from Peoria who, unfortunately, lost his life far too early, named Tommie Forest. And he was a Peoria High School football player who was simply playing video games with high school… with other high school football players before a football game and unfortunately, lost his life due to gun violence. And these young men played in his honor this year. And they were able to go all the way to the University of Illinois and play on that field and beat Vernon Hills High School in the 5A State Championship game. And we all know that you don't get resilient young men without phenomenal men and women in their life leading them. And so, I would like to give an extra special thanks to head coach Tim Thornton for always putting his all into these young men, not just during the football season, but during the off season, making sure that they're doing well and getting good grades and being phenomenal ambassadors of good will throughout the community. I also want to thank Coach Adam O'Neill, Jeff Roper, Coach Max, Coach Shaun McGinnes, Coach Mike Deg, Coach Jeff Bloom, Coach Montgomery, Coach Sean and Coach Montell Burton. This is clearly an ongoing effort for any of the city of us that have ever been involved with high school sports. I happen to be married to a high school coach, so I know the… the work that goes into this and it does not go unnoticed. And I just want 10000040.docx 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 you all to know that this team was led by two phenomenal young men by the name of Coran Taylor and Kendrick Green. And we want you to know that we believe in you. We want to continue to encourage you to aspire for bigger and greater heights and we love what you're doing. This is not the end; it's just the beginning. Congratulations and thank you for all that you do."

"Congratulations and welcome. Representative Williams, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Well, 1987 was a good year. I don't know what you guys were doing in 1987, but it's the year that Will Guzzardi was born, to this day, 30 years ago. Happy 30th birthday, Will."

"Happy birthday, Representative. Representative Bryant, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Please proceed."

"Congratulations and welcome to your Capitol. Representative Ammons, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is my greatest privilege… I'm smiling way too much… to introduce to this great Body my granddaughter Ashura and my daughters Tatiana and Andrea who 10000040.docx 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 came over to visit me this afternoon. Please welcome them to the great City of Springfield."

Speaker Turner: "Thank you and welcome to your Capitol. Representative D'Amico, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Please proceed."

"Thank you, Representative. Members, the House will recess until 12:45. Mr. Clerk, Committee Reports."

"Mr. Clerk, Adjournment Resolution."

"Leader Currie moves for the adoption of the Adjournment Resolution. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. The Chair recognizes Representative Andersson. For what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Representative. Representative Reick, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Please proceed, Sir."

"Thank you, Representative. Members, on Second Reading we have House Bill 2764, Representative Moylan. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Moylan."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I’d like to adopt… adopt Amendment #2."

"A sentence about the Amendment?"

"Yes. Right here. It amends House Bill 2764 by replacing everything after the enacting clause with the following. The Department of Natural Resources is amended by adding Section 21 as follows. Thank you."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 2764. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk." 10000040.docx 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 2764."

"Representative Moylan."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I'm presenting House Bill 2764. This legislation would direct the Department of Natural Resources and the Historic Preservation Agency to only sell products that are made right here in America and Illinois. This measure's a way to help highlight some of the businesses that manufacture goods throughout our wonderful state."

"Chair recognizes Representative Andersson."

"Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

"I have an exception for one facility."

"I have an exception for one facility."

"Said that at this facility it would be okay to have other items brought in from around the world because it is a world- class facility."

"Yes. I will get that in a second. Where's he at? World Shooting and World Complex."

"There were certain items that were coming from worldwide that were not being able to be made in America. And we felt that this Bill would be… at that facility would actually hurt that facility."

"No. And I… 'cause I believe that we can build American- made products with, you know, competition and good pricing right here in America and Illinois."

"Yes. Yes. And let me just give you a couple examples."

"So, we could build… make… we make fudge which we could sell. We make crockery which we could sell. We make Beer Nuts. And right here, Representative Wheeler's area, we make those great candy, that's right there, Skittles. So, I believe that our machines should have all great Illinois and American-made products so we can foster jobs right here and across the country. There's this great, well… great wave of nationalism to sell American-made products and put American people back to work. That's why I'm proposing this Bill. And I ask for an 'aye' vote. And I'm sure glad that I'll have all of your support." 10000040.docx 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Okay."

"Thank you very much."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Long."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Yes, I did."

"I'm familiar with it. I've been there numerous times, previously, not lately."

"No, I'm listening."

"Well, I think we should do everything we can to help Native Americans. And this Bill will help by promoting people to work and more Native Americans."

"Right. That's why we got DCEO and they are surely going to help."

"Chair recognizes Representative Butler."

"Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

"I've spoken to numerous people."

"I… I'm very interested in putting American people back to work and making American… productive and making our factories build American-made products right here." 10000040.docx 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Yes, Sir."

"That's actually exempt and I believe that Abraham Lincoln was born in Illinois and would be proud to know that Marty Moylan was born in America."

"Right. Thank you. But I believe he raised his family here in Illinois."

"I believe he raised his family here and went on to become the President of the States… State of Illinois."

"I think that we should do everything we can… everything we can to promote Illinois and American-made products."

"I think that we should do everything we can. There is a great groundswell of support. There's been Executive Orders signed that we got to promote American-made, Illinois-made products and let's put our country… let's put our state back to work."

"Well, we have great publishers right here in the country, right in the United States of America."

"They should be able to talk to one of our publishers."

"Right."

"Right."

"Right. And they sold." 10000040.docx 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"That's the facility that's in the southern part of the state."

"Yeah. I will…"

"I will get you, after this discussion is over…"

"Yes. I will present you that with you in a few minutes."

"Hang on a second. Yeah. It's called Sparta."

"Correct."

"Yes. It's in Jerry Costello's. Yep, that's it."

"Because it's $26 million in revenue. Plus, with this Bill, not only will that $26 million we could increase not only the people working here in the State of Illinois, but all across America. And as I go up and down Route 66, which you are a proud proponent, I want to buy America-made products and Illinois products. So, I can display that Route 66 sticker right in my window and say Marty Moylan has gone up and down this road and has purchased this icon of Abraham Lincoln made right here in the State of Illinois." 10000040.docx 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Yeah."

"Right."

"Chair recognizes Representative Ives."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Yeah." 10000040.docx 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"We would maybe consider that in the Senate, but I strongly remind you, let's buy American. And thank you, Representative, for your questions."

"Thank you."

"Representative Demmer is recognized."

"He indicates that he will."

"Yes."

"Yeah."

"With much… much discussion of looking over all the facilities, a $26 million revenue enhancement to one of our southern communities was enough for me to consider an exemption. Which your…"

"Yeah. Here's what I know. That the impact for us will be greater when we sell American-made, Illinois-made products." 10000040.docx 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Yeah."

"Right. Do you like Juicy Fruit gum, Doublemint gum, Skittles? That's made right at the yawk… Yorkville plant."

"I think, again, there's a great wave of nationalism that we should do everything we can to make sure…"

"…that we should… that we should do everything we can to put Illinois Americans…"

"…Illinois workers to work…"

"…do everything that we can to make our plants productive. Have you been to the Route… Route 66 in Lincoln and Pontiac where they have postcards made in America. Again, you know…"

"Well, I'm giving you a list."

"And it’s going to be larger." 10000040.docx 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

“I think…”

"No. We think they are great. We love our small businesses and we're going to make them great again. With my Bill…"

"…with my Bill let's make Illinois great again and with your help, I'm expecting every one of you to vote 'yes'…"

"…for a great America. This is nationalism. It's sweeping across the country. Thank you, thank you, thank you."

"Thank you, Representative Demmer. We love everyone."

"It's going to be a huge for Illinois."

"Representative Willis is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Representative, isn't your intent truly to be if we go to visit and let's use our wonderful Illinois Lincoln Mus… 10000040.docx 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 Museum and Library… if I go and pick up a souvenir from there, isn't it sort of tacky if I get something that touts the State of Illinois and on the bottom it says made in China?"

"Exactly… exactly right. And this is why my Bill is intended to correct that."

"Right. If we're spouting our State of Illinois, I think that we should certainly support it with making sure that we have goods and certainly souvenirs that are coming from our own state."

"Yep."

"Does this Bill prevent them though from having a special exhibit that may come in? Would that then be an exception to this Bill or not?"

"Correct. We have no problem with maybe a special exhibit. What I would like to have is a special exhibit of Skittles. I would like them to come in 'cause it's made right here in Illinois. Let's have a special exhibit. Of let's go to the store called P.R.O.U.D. Illinois. It's in Marketplace, 218 West Main in Pontiac, Illinois. You know what they sell there? They sa… they sell products made in Illinois. And that's in Representative Bennett's area. I've been there personally and bought everything there that they can sell at these stores."

"Representative, I'm very proud to have Snapple, Dr. Pepper Distributors right here in my district up in Northlake. I would certainly hope that we could have more Snapple and Dr. Pepper in many of our state agencies so that we can make sure that we help promote Buy Illinois. I think your Bill's a good Bill. I will strongly support it. I think you got on 10000040.docx 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 the right track. I think this is something that everybody should support as proud Illinoisans. Thank you."

"Representative McCombie is recognized."

"Representative Swanson is recognized."

"This legislation important to… to items that are mass- produced."

"This… this legislation is more set for items that are mass-produced."

"Yes."

"Numerous mass-produced items. As I said… as I mentioned earlier, we want our… we would like our businesses that are State of Illinois-owned businesses to sell Illinois and American-made products. What's so hard about putting American people to work and Illinois people to work and selling Illinois products? I'm going to go to the State Museum and I want to buy a statue of Lincoln made right here in Illinois. I want to buy one made right here in America. This Bill is huge for Illinois and America. I don't know what you don't understand. Thank you."

"I look forward to the king and queen of Sweden coming here and purchasing American and Illinois-made products. Thank you."

"If there is a specialty item that needs to be sold and could be sold, that will… we will correct that in the Senate, as I stated earlier."

"No. I'm not going to amend it today. I want to vote on it today. I would like to vote today. I want to see who's going to support American workers; who's going to support Illinois-made products. And if there's a change, it may be made or corrected in the Senate."

"Representative David Harris is recognized." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Question of the Sponsor?"

"The Sponsor will yield." Harris, D.: "Representative, your enthusiasm is so infectious I was almost tempted to vote for this Bill. But a couple of questions before I do that, if you… if you don't mind. You… you indicated that the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum would be covered by this Bill. Is that correct?"

"Correct. Well, actually, I like the first part of your question. You could stop right there." Harris, D.: "No. Is… is the… I'm sorry. I didn't hear you. Is the Museum here in Springfield, is that covered by this?"

"I didn't hear the second part. Excuse me?" Harris, D.: "Is the…"

"I heard you say…" Harris, D.: "…is the Abraham… is the Abraham Lincoln Library and Museum covered by this Bill?"

"Right. The way the statute is written they have their own Codes and they are not included." Harris, D.: "They are not included."

"Right." Harris, D.: "So, the previous… one of the previous speakers who asked the question about… about the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum and all of those folks who 10000040.docx 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 are going to be covered are… visiting the Museum, they're going to buy products which may not be made in the United States, that's a travesty. I think the Bill should be amended to include them. What about, as an example, what about the Illinois Military Museum, which is a… which is a great facility out there at Camp Lincoln but is not covered under the Department of… of Natural Resources. What do we do about them? Are they covered in this Bill?"

"Well, the… you just stated it wasn't covered by the Department of Natural Resources. Well, it wouldn't be covered." Harris, D.: "So, what is the largest… and one of the previous speakers made reference to this… what's the largest facility visited by the… by visitors that's under the auspices of the Department of Natural Resources?"

"I don't have that information." Harris, D.: "Well, it's the… it's Starved Rock State Park. And most… many people don't recognize that Starved Rock State Park has more than 2 million visitors a year, 2 million visitors a year. So, we're leaving out the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum, but we're putting in Starved Rock. And think of the impact there. Now, I'm with you. I want to buy America. Boy, I want to buy America, but why exclude the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum? Why not make this applicable to every single facility in the State of Illinois not just those under the Department of Natural Resources?"

"Thank you very much. And next year that may be my next Bill." 10000040.docx 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 Harris, D.: "I would not be surprised if that's… that's the case. And your enthusiasm is overwhelming. It just didn't convince me enough. And I have to recommend a 'no' vote."

"Okay."

Speaker Turner: "Representative Davidsmeyer is recognized. Representative Phillips is recognized."

"Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

"I'm going to read you something."

"Nice suit…"

"…nice suit. Add to that the tie."

"Drum roll, please."

"Made in U.S.A. since 1887 of imported products. Made at Hartmarx made in Des Plaines, Illinois, where 600 workers work paying taxes."

"One other thing. Just recently, I bought a pair of jeans made in Chicago, Illinois, from Dearborn Incorporated. Those are our American-made products that you can actually look for, find and buy." 10000040.docx 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Thank you."

"Thank you."

"Yes."

"Abraham Lincoln said something like this. I'm not going to say it exactly what he said. That was yesterday; today's today. So, I don't know."

"We should do everything we can to buy American-made and especially, Illinois-made."

"That's what I would say. Thanks, Reggie."

"Thank you."

"Representative Batinick is recognized."

"Representative Batinick has moved the previous question. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In 10000040.docx 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the previous question is moved. Representative Moylan to close."

"Well, I want to thank everybody because the conversations were very lively. And I really appreciate all the support. I know in your heart you're with me. And please, please, press green and you know why, because this is huge for the State of Illinois and the country. Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 2764 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 73 voting 'yes', 40 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', House Bill 2764, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 188, Representative Thapedi. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Thapedi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 188 is the Civil Litigation Reform Act. This Bill restructures Section 301 of the Illinois Code of Civil Procedure to ensure that justice is done to all defendants especially pro se defendants who are not properly served in litigation but still are hit with default judgements. The issue… this particular issue was overlooked in 1999 when we did away with special limited appearances. And at this point, Mr. Speaker, I want to make clear that these issues often happen in mortgage foreclosures actions and in lesser exposure litigation where judges are 10000040.docx 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 quick to find waiver of jurisdictional challenges by defendants. I've, personally, seen judges strip away rights and homes on this issue. This Bill allows an aggrieved defendant to first and foremost attack a default judgement. If he or she is successful in obtaining the relief from the default judgement, via 1301 motion or a 1401 petition, he or she may then lodge a jurisdictional challenge relating to the improper service if brought within 60 days of resolution of those two types of pleadings. Under current law, first moving to vacate the default judgement would waive the right to lodge the jurisdictional challenge because only a motion to extend the time to answer a life plead would be allowable in this scenario. This is an anomaly in the law. And this Bill actually cures that. In the event that an aggrieved defendant does not initially move for an extension of time to un… or answer, otherwise plead or relief from a judgement under 1301, 1401 or 1401.1, that defendant prospectively waives those objections and this is consistent with the Mitchell case that was decided by our own Supreme Court in 2014. I want to personally thank Chris Hurley and his plaintiff trial lawyers; Jim Covington and his ISBA lawyers; Mark Mifflin and his defense trial lawyers; Steve Olson with the lenders; Dave Manning with the Creditors Bar, with their swift work on this important issue. There are no opponents to this litigation that I'm aware of. The intent is for this Act to apply prospectively to cases that are filed immediately after an enactment. And they also, Mr. Speaker, that the legislative intent of this particular piece of legislation is to ensure that BAC Home Loans Servicing, LP v. Kim Mitchell, a 2014 10000040.docx 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 7-0 Supreme Court decision, is still good law. I'm available to answer any and all questions."

Speaker Turner: "Is there any discussion? Representative Andersson is recognized."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Yes."

"Yeah, yeah. That's exactly right, Steve. I mean, and that was the last Amendment that we did. The idea was initially… you'll recall that initially we look at the waiver being both prospective and retrospective. We look at the Mitchell case again, which again as I said, was a 7-0 Illinois Supreme Court decision that made clear that retrospective waiver would not be appropriate. That's why the Bill now is only prospective waiver in those… in those scenarios."

"All objections have been removed."

"Thank you."

"Representative Thapedi to close."

"I urge an 'aye' vote." 10000040.docx 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 188 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 113 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 188, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 189, Representative Thapedi. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Thapedi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 189 is the Condominium Owners Protection Act of 2017. This Bill is the omnibus condominium townhome Bill that revises and adds 10 Sections to the Illinois Condominium Property Act as well as the Common Interest Community Association Act. The issues in this Bill relate to accounting, surpluses, deficits, a combination of units, litigation, governance and the sales of the global property in general. This omnibus Bill was a collaborative effort led by attorney Jacob Meister for the homeowners who, I should note, have no representation down in Springfield; attorneys Pat Costello and Kris Kasten from management and attorney Gina Harrison from Speaker Madigan's legal staff, who's here with me today. The omnibus Bill, while revising and modifying 10 different Sections of the current law, meshes together the Bills and hard work from Representatives Fine, Cassidy, Andersson, Gabel, Williams, and Ives. What is missing, Mr. Speaker, from this omnibus Bill are revisions that would consolidate litigation between 10000040.docx 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 unit owners and their respective associations. The best place, in my opinion, to do that is the Forcible Entry and Detainer Act. But because we cannot reach an agreement on that issue or the issue raised by Representative Drury's Bill, which should be in this omnibus Bill, those will be left for another day. The litigation issue that we did agree upon is the issue of unit owner's access to records of the association. This portion was led by Representative Fine and clarifies that if not, overrules the First District Taggart decision. I'm available to answer any and all questions."

"Representative Andersson is recognized."

"Representative Thapedi to close."

"I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Question is, 'Shall House Bill 189 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 114 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', House Bill 189, having received the Constitutional Majority, is 10000040.docx 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 hereby declared passed. House Bill 2820, Representative Andersson. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Andersson."

"Representative Davis is recognized."

"Mr. Speaker, will the Spons… Well, you ask everybody else questions, so I thought I'd ask you some." 10000040.docx 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Okay."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will definitely yield."

"So, if I heard you correctly, you said that if it could be determined that a cooler will keep the temperature down."

"So, what type of cooler that… are you specifying what that cooler can be used? Can it be a Styrofoam cooler that somebody could keep beer in or are you talking about plastic Igloo coolers? And how do you determine whether or not it has the capability of keeping the temperature down?"

"So, are you suggesting that before you purchase a cooler you have to determine whether or not it has the ability to keep something at 41 degrees? But that also means that if even it's ice, that means you got to keep putting ice in it 'cause ice does melt in the summertime, temperatures could rise. So, again, I'm just trying to make sure I… and I appreciate what you're attempting to do in terms of regulating, you know, keeping food safe, but it just seems 10000040.docx 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 like there's still not enough parameters that exist with what you're suggesting that would keep food safe."

"So… so, then is the 41 degrees a standard being set by the FDA, by…"

"…whatever our regulatory body…"

"…is here at the state?"

"I'm sorry?"

"So, the Federal Law determines that who can they…"

"And is that across the board food? Is there distinctions between beef versus pork versus fish?"

"Well, again, I'm just making it a distinction…"

"…and you're right, certain vegetables, but I'm talking about in terms of meat and poultry."

"Is 41 degrees a standard that's works for all types of meat, poultry, pork, chicken, you know, venison…"

"…kangaroo, I mean, whatever anybody's selling…"

"…at a food market."

"Thank you very much, Representative."

"Appreciate it."

"Representative Mah is recognized."

"To the Bill. I'd like to say that this is a good Bill that removes bars to entry into participation into farmers’ markets. I have a number of small farmers’ markets in my district and they're always struggling to recruit more vendors. I think that with these new regulations that standardize the rules across the state I think that it would remove some of the barriers especially some places where there is a requirement for refrigeration and handwashing stations at every booth. I think that for small vendors that poses an 10000040.docx 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 issue. And so, I think this is a good Bill and I urge support for it."

"Representative Costello is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And to the Bill. I noticed on the Democratic analysis we don't have anything about the Farm Bureau. I reached out to them and the Illinois Farm Bureau is in support of this Bill."

"Representative Ammons is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Just for the clarification on the refrigeration requirement. So, if… an item has a different temperature requirement that you would only get from a grocery store, you're saying that this change would meet all of those requirements regardless to what the cold held item is?"

"And does this Bill address how the re… the compliance portion of this will work?"

"So, if there's no… as you have prepared for this Bill… and I've looked at this as you know… are there certain kind of performance requirements that the cooler must meet in order for it to be acceptable by a public health department?" 10000040.docx 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"But it does not preclude a county from allowing a vendor to continue to use standardized travel-size refrigeration unit, if they so chose?"

"Thank you very much."

"Representative Arroyo is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative Andersson, I stand in support of this farmers’ market Bill. But I got… there’s two questions. Everybody's talking about refrigeration…"

"…and stuff like that and different types of meat there's going to be in the refrigerant."

"A lot of people have questions about the refrigeration and the meat that's going to be kept in this refrigerator. Is this refrigerator American-made?"

"Okay. And do you have lion meat in that refrigerator?" 10000040.docx 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Thank you."

"I support your Bill."

"Representative Andersson to close."

"Question is, 'Shall House Bill 2820 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count 113 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2820, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3164, Representative Stratton. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Mr. Clerk, this Bill is on the Order of Second Reading."

"Representative Stratton." 10000040.docx 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"On House Amendment 2, the Amendment simply added an additional location for a license exemption. I ask for the adoption."

"Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 3164. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Stratton."

"All right. I stand… stood corrected on the prior. On House Floor Amendment 2, it does add an additional location for the license exemption."

"Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 3164. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read this Bill, 3164."

"Representative Stratton."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 3164 amends the Liquor Control Act and authorizes the issuance and renewal of a license to sell alcohol liquor at premises located within 100 feet of specific places of worship and/or schools within the City of Chicago. I do have support from all of the aldermen of each of these… where each of these 10000040.docx 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 premises are located as well as support from the places of worship and the schools. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Andersson is recognized."

"Sponsor will yield."

"So, it's my understanding that the… also as a new Member… that the…"

"Yes, it is. That the City of Chicago under these circumstances could authorize a liquor license for a business to be licensed; however, under the state statute it prohibits… it requires certain prohibitions on being able to have a place… an establishment selling liquor within 100 feet of a church or a school… or a place of worship, I should say, or a school."

"Each of the cases, I have the support of both the schools and the places of worship."

"They support the Bill as do the aldermen of each of those Wards."

"Thank you."

"Representative Stratton to close."

"I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 3164 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 79 voting 'yes', 37 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3164, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3293, Representative Scherer. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Scherer."

"Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This just removes all opposition and it's just a technicality changing the word 'buyer' to 'recipient'."

"Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 3293. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Scherer."

"Okay. So, what this Bill does is it takes school buses…" 10000040.docx 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Amendment #2, Representative."

"Oh, Amendment 2 is just a technicality with the word."

"Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 3293. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read House Bill 3293."

"Members, please bring the noise level down. Representative Scherer."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I'm presenting House Bill 3293 with two Floor Amendments. What this Bill does is… I had a constituent come to me about a school bus being painted yellow. And it's an extra layer of protection for sexual predators and pedophiles. So, the school bus has to be painted some other color than yellow. And I'd appreciate an 'aye' vote. Open to any questions, of course."

"Chair recognizes Representative David Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Question of the Sponsor?"

"Sponsor will yield." Harris, D.: "Representative, we talked about this and the question came up in committee and I just would like to put it into the record so that we're clear. If a school district sells the… the bus from… or transfers the bus from itself to another school district, as the recipient, that recipient school district is not required to paint the school bus that it is 10000040.docx 88  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 receiving. It can leave it as is. Is that fully your intention?"

"Yes. That's my full intention. And I'll say it so that it's in the record. My intention is for someone other than a school or a church. So, if one school purchases it or is given it from another school, they can keep it yellow, of course." Harris, D.: "I appreciate your clarification. And I recommend a 'yes' vote."

"Thank you."

"Representative Unes is recognized."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Yes. We've adopted Floor Amendment 1 and 2."

"Yes, I'm aware of that."

"Yes, I'm aware of that."

"And as we said in committee, the issue is if the bus is just parked somewhere, which is was in this case, the law doesn't care… clarify on that."

"And I don't think we can ever be too careful when it comes to sexual predators…"

"…and pedophiles."

"Representative Scherer to close."

"Yes. This just clarifies existing law. It doesn't, you know, draw flashing lights or anything. I would just like to request an 'aye' vote. I think it's for the good of the children in the State of Illinois."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 3293 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 78 voting 'yes', 37 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', House Bill 3293, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3449, Representative Williams. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Williams."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill is a Geolocation Privacy Protection Bill. We have a number of cosponsors on this item. House Amendment #2 removes the private right of action from the Bill and provides enforcement to be limited to the Attorney General and the state's attorney. So, I would ask to add the Amendment for further discussion and consideration."

"Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 3449. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read House Bill 3449."

"Out of the record. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 3449."

"Representative Williams."

"No, this is not my first Bill. Thank you. So, House Bill 3449 we've heard a lot about. And this Bill would provide that tech companies that have apps that track your location must notify you when your location is monitored and must require approval of the app user before we can proceed. Again, 10000040.docx 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 the big issue with this Bill was whether it utilizes a private right of action. And we've removed that limiting enforcement to the AG and to the state's attorney. So, I do want to let… say for the record, there are some items still to be added that we will be adding in the Senate. And those include exclusions for groups that are otherwise covered in other parts of the statute. For an example, I have an Amendment taking the cable providers out. So, there will be further Amendments. You will see this Bill again."

"Representative Andersson is recognized."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Well, there are opportunities to turn off some of the data lo… the data apps and the location seeking apps, but as it was illustrated in committee yesterday that's not always easy to do. One of our colleagues was having difficulty in the committee determining how exactly to do that. I think the problem with that is consumers aren't aware of which apps track their location and which apps don't. For example, everybody knows when they use Uber or Lyft their location needs to be tracked for virtue of the person picking them up, same with weather specific apps to your location. But there are other apps maybe an app… shopping app or apps, you know, calorie counting apps or exercise documenting apps. You know how many apps there are. I just downloaded Dropbox, for 10000040.docx 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 example, to do another item. Not sure if they're tracking my location, I wasn't asked. So, what we're doing is letting consumers know when an app is tracking where you are, how long you're there, where you're going. It's just something we think consumers need to know. It's very, very personal and private information."

"Again, this is enforceable through the Attorney General and the state's attorney through the Consumer Fraud Act. So, it is going to be something that they pursue like any other consumer fraud action, if there's a violation."

"My answer is, you’d have to know the specifics of the Consumer Fraud Act, but if you give me a moment, I can certainly do that."

"It's going to be monetary penalties probably injunctive relief just from my memory of working at the Attorney General's Office, but I can't tell you specifically what. It depends on the violation."

"I don't believe so."

"Well, it's you either have done what the Act requires or you haven't. For example, we do provide that their contracts can… this conversion provides that a contract that 10000040.docx 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 is pursuant to a location base app can be void if there's a violation. That issue actually came up in committee. And I'm going to take a look at that as it moves through the process to ensure that it's fair. For example, we don't want a consumer to have their private information released if there's a violation. So, we want to make sure it's a two-way street. So, violating the app is enforceable only again by the AG or the state's attorney."

"You know, you may remember President Trump came out with a lot of language regarding privacy recently and it was not proconsumer at all. So, since then, we've started to see a lot of activity on the state level to address privacy issues. I think it's been introduced in a couple other states: Nevada and there's an Eastern state that comes to mind. So…"

"I don't believe so."

"Representative Wheeler is recognized." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield." Wheeler, K.: "Representative, we had a good discussion last night in committee about this. I just want to put a few things on the record…"

"Sure." Wheeler, K.: "…while we discuss this. First of all, I'm a user of an Apple device for my cell phone. And Apple and Google represent about what… 99-plus percent of the entire mobile phone market right now. Do those companies already require a user to give permission to the device to use their location right now?"

"I think it's depends. I mean, you know there's… I don't even know how many apps are out there, hundreds of thousands, I'm sure… of apps. So, I think it depends on all the particular applications." Wheeler, K.: "Okay. But actually prior to the loading a single app on your phone, you have to give permission for the location service to be turned on broadly. So, you can turn them all off if the device…" 10000040.docx 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"I don't… I don't think that's the case. I have numerous apps on my phone I don't recall making that election." Wheeler, K.: "Oh, no, no, no. I thought when…"

"It would have to be an affirmative." Wheeler, K.: "…when you first turn the… when you… when they set up your device for the first time. One of the questions you get asked is, are you an enabling location services?"

"On some… on some apps. It's not required right now." Wheeler, K.: "Not on the apps. I'm talking about the actual device itself, the actual Apple IOS."

"Okay." Wheeler, K.: "If you… if you…"

"That's not covered in the Bill. We're talking about apps only in the Bill." Wheeler, K.: "No, I understand. I understand, but a user has already made a decision to turn the location services on or not before they even get to the part where they started loading apps. So, this… Part of, I think, what the Bill's trying to address does exist now, okay. I know you want to take it further. So, I'll just put on the record that some of things do exist currently in the App Store for Google. I'm not as familiar with it… with the Google… their play Store like I am with the Apple one."

"I don't know. I submit that the majority of people using the apps have no idea whether a particular app is tracking their location or not." Wheeler, K.: "I'm not disputing that part of it."

"Yeah." 10000040.docx 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 Wheeler, K.: "Okay. And I think that comes back to one of the points we talked about yesterday was educating users about what's being done with data, what can be done. When you put data out there of any variety, you are actually, you know, subject to and it goes somewhere else. And geolocation data is part of that concept, this overall issue. So, I appreciate you bringing the concept forward. The other one I'm thinking of is that… that when you start your phone for that first time you also have to give the permission for location service to be used as well. So, you turn it on and you have to give permission; there's two steps already in place on the Apple side of it. Now, that doesn't mean that this is all the concerns you have about geolocation data. I want people to be able to understand that… be aware that there are some elements that already are protecting users. So, they're not completely irrelevant. The apps… the question you're bringing about apps still has relevance because you don't always know. You can turn them on or off. That part is indisputable; that's part of the location settings, at least in the Apple version of it. So, again, I don't think this Bill is going to do all the things that you want it to do right now. So, I won't be supporting this Bill. I do reinforce my commitment to you, Representative Williams, that if you want to work on a Bill that would enhance user education and awareness of these things, I'm happy to work with you any time you'd like to."

"I just want to make a note to follow up. This Bill is very, very narrowly tailored only to address geolocation data only to you… only for application use. And I think what the point that we're getting to… perhaps we have a philosophical 10000040.docx 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 difference… and I made the point yesterday in committee, the Illinois Compiled Statutes are full of regulations on companies and organizations that probably would rather regulate themselves. I think that's what we're talking about here. The tech companies, some of whom are very responsible, others that are frankly not, many… if they want to regulate themselves. They want to establish their own privacy principles. They want to establish their own regulations. And I get that; however, I think what I'm hearing from residents of my community and otherwise and broadly… we're broadening the State of Illinois as they want the government to provide some protections as a non-interested party particularly with regard to what's happening on the federal level. And I said yesterday in committee, I think many of us would agree, we don't have a lot of confidence in our current administration, that they will be out in front fighting for our privacy protections. So, I don't think Americans trust the industry to regulate themselves, certainly don't trust the Federal Government, so we're looking at the state to protect privacy rights." Wheeler, K.: "Well, thank you for that response. I will say quickly to the Bill. I appreciate the Sponsor bringing this forward. And I look forward to working with her on future endeavors where we can really improve the user experience and that feeling of comfort that they know what's happening with their own data on their own device. Again, thank you for bringing it forward."

"Representative Williams to close." 10000040.docx 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Thank you so much for the debate and the discussion that's been ongoing. As I stated when I introduced the Bill, I will be coming back to the House for a couple of clean-up type items. However, I want to reiterate, I am very open and interested in hearing from the tech industry. We don't want to stifle development and innovation. We do want to find that right balance between protecting consumer privacy and still allowing robust development of the apps that make our life much more convenient. So, again, this is a work in progress. I'd appreciate your consideration and an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 3449 pass?' All in favor say 'aye'… vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 69 voting 'yes', 42 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', House Bill 3449, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Mitchell, for what reason do you seek recognition?" Mitchell, B.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed, Sir." Mitchell, B.: "Yeah. In the gallery on the Republican side, I would like Robbie Wester, Robbie, would you stand up? Robbie will turn 13, I believe, next month. And he's here with his mother, a good friend of mine, Carla. So, I wanted to give them a big Illinois House welcome. Thank you for coming." 10000040.docx 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

Speaker Turner: "Thank you and welcome to your Capitol. Representative Brady, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Please proceed, Sir."

Speaker Turner: "Thank you and welcome to your Capitol. Representative Bryant, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

Speaker Turner: "The record will reflect your request, Representative. House Bill 1970, Representative Brady. Out of the record. House Bill 1952, Representative Cabello. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Cabello."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 1952 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 113 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', House Bill 1952, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2577, Representative Soto. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Soto."

"Yes. Thank you, Speaker. House Bill 2577 extends the sunset Bill of the Marriage and Family Therapy…"

"Excuse me, Representative, on the Floor Amendment first. You did… you're giving me the details of Floor Amendment #3?" 10000040.docx 101  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Yes."

"Okay."

"Okay. House Bill 2577 extends the Marriage and Family Therapy Licensing Act for nine years, from January 1, 220… to 2027."

"Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #3 to House Bill 2577. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read that Bill a third time."

"Representative Soto."

"Okay. House Bill 2577 extends the sunset and Marriage and Family Therapy Licensing Act, first signed into law in 1991. Marriage and Family Therapy refers the evaluation and treatment of mental and emotional problems within the context of human relationships, marriage. House Bill 2577 extends the Marriage and Family Therapy Licensing Act for nine years to January 2027. House Bill 2577 is agreed Bi… is an agreed Bill between DFPR and the industry. And I ask for an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 2577 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 113 voting 'yes', 1 voting 10000040.docx 102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2577, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 459, Representative Ives. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Ives."

"Representative McDermed is reco… is recognized."

"Representative Mayfield is recognized."

"Thank you so much. I going to speak to the Bill and to the Sponsor. I chair the committee that this Bill came out of. And Representative Ives has worked very hard on this Bill. And I want to give her credit for that. We've had a lot of 10000040.docx 105  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 opposition on this particular Bill. Representative Ives, as you can see, we're on the third Amendment, has taken those criticisms into consideration and has amended her Bill to address a lot of the concerns that were brought forth. When the third Amendment, which is the one we're looking at now, came through committee on Tuesday not one person stood up in opposition to speak against the Bill. All of the… all the organizations that have called you, all of the superintendents that have been ringing your phones not one took the time to come down here or have their lobbyist speak against the Bill. And I really think that does a disservice for them to wait until the Bill passes out of committee and then try to kill it on the floor. They had an opportunity to speak against the Bill. Representative Ives has stated that she will continue to work on the Bill. There were additional concerns that came up after committee. And she gave me her commitment that in the Senate she would continue to work on the Bill. She's been very good about keeping her word. And I would just ask for an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Representative Jones is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative, I'd like to direct some questions going to legislative intent. You have part of your Bill reflects that it limits elementary or high school districts from issuing debt above 6.9 percent."

"So, if… Do you know of any school districts that have any of their EAV above 6.9 percent, say, 100 percent above the EAV or 800 percent above the EAV?"

"Are you aware?"

"So, another portion of your…"

"Thank you, Representative. There's another Section of your Bill that goes to if the Governor declares a disaster in the school districts."

"So, Amendment…"

"Okay. So, Representative, why in this Bill would you direct the State Board of Education, if there's an issue, to immediately place a school district above 6.9 percent on the financial watch…"

"Thank you, Representative."

"Leader Lang is recognized."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative, I understand that this Bill changes the definition of debt. Can you explain that to us?"

"So, did you say you had an exemption for tax anticipation warrants?"

"So, you recognize that the way your Bill is written today most schools would not be able to even issue tax anticipation warrants. Is that correct?"

"Well, wouldn't it be fair to say that under your Bill most schools, if you count everything under your new definition of debt, would not be able to have any additional debt at all?"

"Representative, I totally disagree with your assertion that this will not impact most school. It absolutely will impact most schools because most schools have debt and most schools have… you have to pay interest on that debt."

"I think you're changing the rules in the middle of the game. Let's… let's go back… let's go to one portion of your Bill that I find particularly disturbing and that relates to the issuance of short-term debt. So, what you've said here is that no school that's beyond their debt limit, even by referendum, can issue any… either long-term or short-term debt. Is that correct?"

"So, if a school is beyond their debt limit, under your Bill, if their boiler blows up and they needed a short-term loan of let's say $5 thousand to fix it, if they were that tight on expenses, they wouldn’t be able to do that, would they?"

"To the Bill. As the Representative indicated earlier, I had a Bill that's similar to this subject but doesn't do what this Bill does. My Bill said that if a school district needs a debt limit exemption for a long-term debt. In my… the case of my school, they were building a new school building and they went through referendum and they were… they had public hearings and they disclosed all the costs. And the people voted for it at a… at a referendum that they should be allowed to do it. This Bill goes way beyond that. And this is an important Bill for your school districts, Ladies and 10000040.docx 110  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 Gentlemen. Under this Bill, if your school district needs a short-term loan to fix an emergency problem, they will not be able to do it if they're beyond their debt limit. Now, we may not want them beyond their debt limit, but the fact remains that these schools have to run. If they have a leak in the roof, if the boiler blows up, if there's some emergent problem in the school and they're beyond their debt limit, then they would not be able to fix that roof, they would not be able to fix that boiler, they would not be able to deal with the emergency problem in their school. Additionally, we elect school board members so that we have local control. Now, in the City of Chicago they don't elect their school board members, but there's a wonderful Bill to accomplish that. But everywhere else in the state school board members are elected. Now, are we about the business of taking the power away from school boards? Why do we let them elect school boards if we don't give them the ability to fix problems in their own schools? Some people around here on this floor talk about local control until they have a Bill that says, well, I don't want local control on this thing. We have a responsibility to have a philosophy in this chamber that we are either for local control or not. So, if you want to be for local control, you can't be for this Bill. The Bill we already passed out of this chamber with a substantial number of votes protected local control and protected taxpayers by being open and transparent and have public hearings and do all of those things. This Bill takes the power from local school districts. This Bill takes away their ability to deal with emergencies. 10000040.docx 111  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 So, accordingly, this Bill is not well drafted; it's not even well intended. Please vote 'no'."

"Representative Ammons is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Sponsor. Just one quick question to the Sponsor of this Bill."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Thank you. So, if a school district is unable to issue tax anticipation warrants during the cycle of funding where either the state is slow or the tax roll is off-cycle, what would a school district do until that money comes through?"

"But if their limit… If they've already reached their limit, then what would the school district do in that case?"

"And what would they do like right now… what do they currently do right now, if they… if they have a… a financial issue they need to address?"

"I appreciate the Lady…"

"Representative, if I could just finish out…"

"…I'll just let you have the floor back…"

"…and others can answer questions."

"I just want to speak to the Bill, quickly. That under this Bill, without fixing what is an obvious gaping problem in this Bill, your school districts who absolutely have to have public meetings to talk about issuing tax anticipation warrants currently it is a public meeting held by your school board. So, if your school boards are having secret meetings 10000040.docx 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 that are not public so that the public knows what debt that they're issuing, that you actually have a different problem that this Bill does not address. And so, what I would ask our Members to do is to vote 'no' on this Bill because this Bill would make sure that your school districts cannot function or that they will have to raise property taxes even further in order to address the needs of the school district. And I'd ask for you all to vote 'no' on this Bill."

"Representative Moeller is recognized."

"Thank you, Speaker. To the Bill. It's my understanding that this… that this Bill, were it to pass, would prohibit school districts from actually saving taxpayers money. It would prohibit school districts from refinancing existing debt to achieve a lower interest rate and to spread out the payments and their debt burden in order to alleviate the tax burden on its citizens. It's contrary to good government. It's contrary to local control. And I strongly urge a 'no' vote."

"Representative Zalewski is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"Jeanne, my…"

"…my analysis says that a provision in this Amendment says that you… the Bill removes the school district's ability to exceed their debt limit. If the Governor declares a disaster within the…"

"…school district…" 10000040.docx 114  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"House Floor Amendment…"

"I… why… well, I want to clean the record. Just… so, sure, our analysis of House Floor Amendment #3, which is the one that was adopted, correct?"

"Says it removes the school district's ability to exceed their debt limit if the Governor declares a disaster within the school district or upon the Governor's approval for any other reason. Is that accurate?"

"I apologize."

"Okay."

"I apologize."

"I misread our analysis."

"This… Do you still have opponents to the Bill? All of them?"

"So, do you still have your… Are all of the opponents on the Bill still opponents?"

"Can you… can you ex… can you briefly explain their opposition?"

"What if… what if a school district finds itself in a position of being low on cash flow and having to take a short- term interest for the purposes of payroll? Under this Bill, would they be able to do that?"

"Who… who's your Senate Sponsor?"

"So, what hap… how are we going to be able to fix a…"

"…House Bill in the Senate with a hostile Senate Sponsor?"

"Jeanne, I appre… To the Bill. I appreciate your passion on this issue. You always give a rigorous evaluation of our Bills and I think you've been able to answer the Bills in a rigorous way on this. But with a hostile Senate Sponsor and a commitment to fixing it in the Senate, that creates a very difficult dynamic for, I think, our side of the aisle on this. So, unfortunately and respectfully, Mr. Speaker, I urge a 'no' vote."

"Representative Willis is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative… Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield." 10000040.docx 117  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"I'd like to read an e-mail that I got yesterday from the opp… number of opponents to this Bill. And hopefully, it will give some clarity. And while I did substitute into committee when the Amendment came through and I agree that many of these people were late to the table, I think we need to still take their concerns into check on this. So, let me go through some of the key points that they brought out. So, the amount of interest to be paid on bonds since the calculation of the debt limit which would be different from how debt is calculated in other states and how it is considered traditionally in Illinois as affirmed by the Illinois Supreme Court is a main concern. It also prohibits refinancing beyond the term of the original bonds and cannot exceed final maturity date or push out the payments… the payment of the debt service longer than two… 20 years even if its statutory exemption to the maximum 20 years has been granted or could be granted by the General Assembly also is prohibited. It prohibits of the issuance of new debt including the tax anticipation warrants of a district that exceeds beyond the debt limit. It also prohibits the issuance of capital appreciation bonds.”

"This Bill requires certain information to appear on the ballot questions for the voted bonds. It also requires certain information be given to the public regarding the amount of property taxes needed to pay for the bonds extendable against a median-sized home. These are challenging financial times in Illinois. Given the continued stalemate in Springfield over an official budget, significantly delayed mandated 10000040.docx 118  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 categorical payments to school districts and legislative proposals calling for a property tax freeze and changes to the educational funding formula, school districts need the ability to responsibly manage their own finances, possibly issue new debt beyond the state not resolved in the finance… the fiscal issue and as necessary relieve the tax burden on the community. This was a letter that was sent to me by the opponents and then he lists off the opponents to this Bill or this… certainly this final Amendment: the Chicago Public Schools, ED-RED, Illinois High School District Organizations, LEND, LUDA, SCOPE, the Illinois State School Management Alliance, IEA and IFT. That's a list of pretty much everybody that is in the education field. This came from three different superintendents in my district. Pretty much all of the districts in DuPage County are opposed to this Bill. You, as a Member of a Legislature in DuPage County, cannot ignore these superintendents. You have admitted that we need to do additional… you need to do additional work on this. I would urge you to pull it from the record, fix it, come back next Session and let's look at it better. Thank you."

"Representative Ives to close."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 459 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. With a count of 43 voting 'yes', 70 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 459, having failed to reach the Constitutional Majority, does not pass. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 1776, Representative Martwick. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Martwick." 10000040.docx 120  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 1776 is a Bill that would create an elected governing board for the City College system… the Community College system of the City of Chicago. This is a Bill that was run in the 99th General Assembly; then it was House Bill 4312. And that Bill passed out of this chamber 112 to 2. So, clearly it was a Bill that received broad bipartisan support. The Bill is unchanged. It is the exact same format. It passed out of here sort of later in May and it never got through the process in the Senate. So, we're bringing the Bill back. Again, this would create an elected representative school board for the Chi… Chicago City Colleges. Currently, that board is appointed by the mayor of the City of Chicago. This board… this Bill would create a board of governance that would cut the City of Chicago up exactly as the CPS Bill that I carried last year would do, cut it up into 20 unique districts and there would be a President of the board that would run at-large in the City of Chicago. Again, this is a Bill that was worked on bipartisan… in a bipartisan fashion. It received 112 votes last year. I ask for an 'aye' vote. Be happy to answer any questions."

"Representative Andersson is recognized."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Yes."

"Yes. So, their opposition was technical in nature. They believe that… that the… and again our legal staff, this is… disagrees with their analysis, but they believe that there needs to be a referendum in the City of Chicago in order to change the governing structure. Our legal staff believes that we can do it via legislation."

"All of them. All public universities and community colleges have elected governing boards."

"Except for the City Colleges."

"That's my hope, yes."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Martwick to close."

"I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor… Representative Lang in the Chair, Mr. Clerk. Thank you all. Pleasure… it's a pleasure to work with you. Those in favor of Mr. Martwick's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Meier, Spain. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 114 voting 'yes', 3 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby 10000040.docx 122  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 declared passed. House Bill 3817, Mr. Clerk. Representative Nekritz. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In April of 2016, the Juvenile Justice Commission issued a report entitled Burden for Life. The Juvenile Justice Commission is a federally mandated state advisory group to the Governor, the General Assembly and the Illinois Department of Human Services. They had three recommendations in their report. One was to enhance confidentiality protections for the juveniles involved in the criminal justice system. The second… the second recommendation was to increase access to expungement. And the third was to confirm that a juvenile adjudication is not a criminal conviction. House Bill 3817 implements the recommendations of the Juvenile Justice Commission. It didn't… it enhances the confidentiality protections by including municipal ordinance violations in the confidentiality protections and closing some loopholes that exist in current statute. It also require… allows for automatic expungement for a number of crimes provided that there has been no additional arrest or involvement with the criminal justice system by the juvenile. And it does confirm in a very clear statement that juvenile adjudications are not criminal convictions. Be happy to take your questions."

"Leader Durkin."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Chapa LaVia, Hurley, Rita. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 82 voting 'yes', 33 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 3539, Mr. Halpin. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Halpin on the Amendment."

"Yes. The Amendment, Floor Amendment #1, Mr. Speaker, amends the process by which a contract could be voided under the… under law, moves it to the CPL."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 3539, Mr. Halpin. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Halpin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. What House Bill 3539 does is create a program for contractors that do business with the 10000040.docx 125  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 state to certify that they are an equal pay employer. It provides for a four-year certificate at a small cost of $150 and it requires those employers to provide information to the state that they are governing under equal pay and they're treating their men and women employees the same way. I believe we have an obligation to the people of Illinois to make sure that our vendors and our contractors are meeting their federal and state duties to pay men and women equally for that equal work. And I would ask for a 'yes' vote. Happy to answer any questions."

"Mr. Andersson."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes. They apply for that certificate and they… they represent to the state that they meet the requirement for the Equal Pay Act."

"Once every four years."

"That's correct."

"They do have to provide proof and there is an audit procedure from the… from the state in order to try to verify that that is correct."

"Yes."

"Yes."

"Mr… Mr. Representative, that is at the discretion of the agency, their procurement officer."

"I… Yeah. On first read… My understanding is that the… the fiscal impact cannot be determined with certainty based on they're not sure how many… you know, how many people need them. Okay. So, according to the Department of Employment Security, the… I mean, the initial start cost for the program range from seven and a half million dollars to 11 million dollars."

"Eleven million."

"That the… they track number of employees, number of male employees, number of female employees, the wages paid, you know, on an equal basis."

"Well, you know, my intent is certainly not to require individual identification information. But they are required to provide on an individualized basis to… to demonstrate their payment on women equally."

"I believe that's correct, yes."

"Mr. Davis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, I certainly appreciate what you're attempting to do. One question that I do have, could you explain what the penalty provisions are with regard to this Bill?"

"As part of the penalty provisions you can have your equal pay certificate revoked under which you would not be able to bid on additional contracts with the state. Another potential penalty would be that an existing contract could be revoked or voided."

"Okay. When you say they are unable to bid on contracts with the state, is that for a specified period of time?" 10000040.docx 128  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"It is not. It's my intention that, you know, if at a certain point they could demonstrate that they are now following the equal pay regulations, that they would then be able to reapply. It's not my intent to be a permanent debarment."

"Well, I just wonder, unless there is some type of real hammer… and I appreciate what you're doing and I'm going to support it… if there's not a real hammer, I'm just wondering, you know, how easy someone can violate this and then get back into good standing with the state. So, I would strongly consider that as this moves to the Senate that you consider maybe not allowing participation on contracts for a specified period of time. If you're serious about wanting them to comply to make sure that equal pay is important not only just to get the certificate and whatever the audit procedures are, but if they violate it and maybe they violate it more than once or twice, you know, two or three times in a period of time that they then be barred from participating in contracts for a period of time. I have a Bill that's coming up, hopefully very soon in the next day or so, House Bill 2664 that speaks to violations with IDOT contractors that they will be barred from participation for a period of time if they fail to… to do some things. So, it is something that's reasonably acceptable, I think, at least on IDOT's side maybe on some of the other contractual obligations as well. So, I would strongly encourage you to consider it."

"And I certainly appreciate that feedback, Representative."

"Mr. Hays." 10000040.docx 129  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Sponsor yields."

"That is correct."

"That is correct. What we have seen over the past several years is even though we have these equal pay laws and regulations on the books women are still making 79 cents or even less if you're a woman of color and so, this is a way for the Illinois… for the State of Illinois to prioritize and reemphasize that if you're going to have the privilege of doing business with the state, then you've got to demonstrate that you are following those laws. We hold you to a higher standard, if you're going to be getting taxpayer money."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Sponsor yields."

"It's all… all companies that are seek to have a contract with the state. It's not restricted to any particular size."

"If you have, as a truck driver are… have bid on a project or bid on a grant that… with the State of Illinois…"

"…and as part of that application process you would have to demonstrate that you already have an equal pay certificate. That's correct."

"It'd be $150 for a four-year certificate, less than $40 a year."

"If they are doing business with the State of Illinois, they are covered and would be required to have that equal pay certificate."

"Yeah. And part of… part of that will depend on whether or not the… the contractor or the business entity is abiding by the Federal Law or the particular state regulation. He would need to provide enough… enough evidence that you're meeting your state and your federal obligation."

"Well, the first thing…"

"Sure. The first thing I would mention is that a lot of this data that is going to be required under this Bill is data that's already required to collect for the purposes of Federal Law. So, I mean, the information you're talking about is all information within the control of the company. As a Representative earlier said, this is already the law and they need to be providing this information or at least tracking this information anyway to make sure they're in compliance. This is not an additional burden other than that that 10000040.docx 132  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 information has to now be provided to the state in order to get the certificate."

"They…"

"It's not my intent to restrict it just to the folks working on that job. The intent is to make sure that the employer as a whole is following the state and federal equal pay laws."

"We're requesting enough information so that the employer can demonstrate that they're following the law and making sure they're paying men and women equally. It doesn't necessarily need to be on an individualized basis and… but they have to provide enough to demonstrate that they're paying men and women equally."

"We need to have whatever layers are required to make sure that people are following the law. You can have as many member or business regulations as you want. If those businesses aren't… if those regulations aren't being enforced, you know, they're worthless. What we need to do is make sure that we're making it a priority, if you want to do business with the State of Illinois and take taxpayer money that you are following those equal pay laws. That's really the bottom line for this Bill."

"Okay. So, a violation of this results in your… your revocation of the equal pay certificate. It's not a specific board debarment. If you, at a later time, would reapply for that equal pay certificate to demonstrate that you are meeting the obligations of the law, you would be reinstated under those circumstances."

"Yeah. That would… that would depend on the procurement officer. So, if you're in the middle of a contract and you're certificate gets revoked, the procurement officer has the 10000040.docx 134  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 dis… I think they have the discretion to… to reratify a contract or continue that going forward."

"It would be the Department of Employment Security."

"I mean, I think that's a silly question. I mean, they're working hard. We have plenty of state employees that are working hard so."

"Yeah."

"I’m sure the department has plenty of things to do on a… on a daily basis."

"Yeah."

"Excuse me. I'm sorry. I didn't hear the last part."

"I believe they are, yes."

"I can't… I can't promise that, but I… I believe the department is capable of executing this program." 10000040.docx 135  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Yes."

"The Department of Employment Security, I believe, is capable of executing this program. I believe the department has estimated these numbers based on another program currently in operation. It's a good program; we need to prioritize it."

"I'm afraid…"

"They can absolutely handle this work."

"We need… we do need to fund this program. It's a priority for me. It should be a priority for us."

"We're going to find the funding for this. It's my hope that we get a…"

"…a full year… it's my hope that we get a full-year budget. I hope that we continue to have discussions on that. And this is a program we need to prioritize."

"I… I disagree."

"Representative… Representative…"

"I disagree."

"I haven't used the timer on this Bill, but you've had the microphone for some time. Can you bring your remarks to a close, Sir?"

"Mr. Swanson."

"Sponsor yields."

"So, it's not a… it's not a matter of providing the specific payroll identifying information, but they would have to demonstrate on their employer-wide basis that they follow those laws. And I have no… I have no reason to believe that John Deere doesn't already follow those laws. They are a global company. They are a responsible employer. And I have no reason to think that otherwise."

"Yes. If they are a bidder, offerors, contractor, vendor or potential contractor as defined in the procurement Bill, yes."

"Mr. Harris." 10000040.docx 138  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A question of the Sponsor?"

"Sponsor yields." Harris, D.: "Representative, first thing I'll do is I'll come to your defense about the fact that we're not taking money away from social service agencies or individuals that may need it because the Department of Employment Security is a non-GRF agency. In other words, it relies on no GRF; however, it does rely on any number of fees. It relies on dollars which are used for unemployment benefits for individuals who are looking for a job. So, in that respect, if we use seven to eleven million dollars for… for… are being used for employment services, we're now taking that seven to eleven million dollars away from individuals who may need them for employment services. But I want to key in on a second on the audit provision of your Bill. It says the Department of Employment Security may audit the business compliance with this Act. So, it's not a… it's not a mandatory 'shall', but it is 'may'. And it says as part of an audit upon request. So, what triggers an audit?"

"Well, it says upon…" Harris, D.: "I mean, as an example…"

"So, it says a… Okay." Harris, D.: "…if I'm… if I'm an employee of… take any company… Caterpillar… if I'm an employee of Caterpillar and I say I don't think Caterpillar… let's say I'm a female employee… I don't think Caterpillar is paying me equitably in relation to the males. Do I then file a request with the Department of Employment Security for an audit?" 10000040.docx 139  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"I believe anyone can make a… make a complaint or request if they believe that there's a problem with the law. It'd be up to the department to decide whether or not that would actually trigger an audit or require that kind… that level of investigation." Harris, D.: "Okay. Just briefly then, Ladies and Gentlemen. One, the dollars that he's talking about or may be talking about here by way of seven to eleven million dollars would come out of funds which are used for individuals who are looking for employment because that's how the Department of Employment Security uses its dollars. They do not have GRF appropriations; however, I'm concerned about the audit provision of the Bill because if an individual can request an audit and if you look at what's required by the audit: name… excuse me… numbers of male employees, and female employees, average annual salaries, information on their performance, payments, benefits. It's fairly extensive. And you can take a company like Caterpillar that has… an individual employee says, well, we're not getting treated fairly or equa… or I mean, not being paid equitably. Then this could trigger an enormously complicated, time-consuming audit, which is nothing more than a business expense for those businesses located in the State of Illinois. I think we have to look at this very carefully. I'd like to clean it up and make it a better Bill. We passed the equal pay Bill yesterday, which is now hopefully going to become the law of the State of Illinois. But I think this one goes a bit too far. And I'd recommend a 'no' vote."

"Representative Wallace." 10000040.docx 140  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields. Ladies and Gentlemen, could we hold the noise down in the chamber, please?"

"Thank you. Representative Halpin, I think you've already explained this, but it has been pretty loud. The information that the companies would have to provide to the State of Illinois, it's already information that they have to gather for federal purposes, correct?"

"Yes, it is."

"But are we at any point now collecting that data as a state?"

"I… I'm not aware that we're act… we're collecting that data as a matter of course. But I do know they're required to keep that information. I can… I can check and get back to you though."

"Okay. And then, the other question I had was, do you know why companies choose to relocate or what are some of their reasons that they do relocate to states, since that seems to be a major issue in this debate?"

"I apologize. Could you repeat that?"

"What are some of the reasons that companies choose to go to a state? It seems like they constantly have discussed this idea that Illinois would be less competitive. But I was wondering if you knew a few of those reasons why they would come here and why they would see us as competitive?"

"Well, I would hope that they'd see Illinois and our trained workforce and they'd want to relocate here in order to make sure they have qualified employees. And I think that 10000040.docx 141  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 they'd also want to come here to, you know, because we have good infrastructure."

"Thank you. To the Bill. I want to thank the Sponsor for bringing this Bill forward. I believe it's a great companion to the Bill that we passed yesterday especially given the fact that yesterday's Bill removed the prohibition from employees to discuss information about salary. I think it's very, very important for us to be able to recognize the value in the work that is provided by all workers in the state whether they are male, female, trans or cis. I think that we also need to recognize the fact that the quality of life is extremely important for when companies make a decision to relocate. Part of that quality of life has a tie to the economic factors. Can you provide for yourself? Can you have a wonderful neighborhood to live in? And I think that women deserve that equally as their male counterparts do. Again, appreciate this particular measure being brought forward. I do encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Halpin to close. Mr. Halpin."

"Thank you. Thank you… Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This needs to be a priority for the state. We need to put our taxpayer money where our mouth is and encourage men and women to get… be paid equally. We need to remedy the rights… or the wrongs from the past. A lot of this information is already required on the federal level. And it's less than $40 per year for a business to get this equal pay certificate. I'd appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'ayes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who 10000040.docx 142  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Ford. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 67 voting 'yes', 49 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, Rules Report."

"Mr. Sims is recognized. For what reason do you rise, Sir?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed."

"In the gallery on the Democratic side of the aisle, we have some wonderful students visiting us from Iliana Christian High School. Under leadership of their teacher, Jeff White, they are here to learn about State Government and the process of government and this… this laboratory we call democracy. They are leaving Springfield and heading to Indiana… Indianapolis, to learn more about their system of government. So, I'd like you to welcome them to Springfield."

"Welcome to the House chamber. We're happy you're here. Representative Bryant is recognized. For what reason do you rise?"

"Please proceed."

"Thank you for being with us today. We appreciate it. Mr. Batinick, for what reason do you rise?"

"Proceed."

"And take a granola bar. Mr. DeLuca, for what reason do you rise, Sir?"

"Mr. Speaker, on House Bill 3817, 3817, I'd ask to be recorded as a 'yes'."

"The record will reflect your intention, Sir. Mr. Mitchell, for what reason do you rise?" Mitchell, C.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A point of personal privilege."

"Proceed." Mitchell, C.: "Members, one year and one day ago, I posted on Representative Kelly Cassidy's wall a very large selection of 10000040.docx 144  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 blondies, with the intention of her just making one recipe, but being Kelly, she decided to make all of them. This year Kelly has in front of her a very large baking book that you can come over and make a selection from and she will bake it sometime before the end of Session along, I believe, with Representative Avery Bourne. So, please come over. Oh, apparently, and Jen Walling is going to be helping as well. And it's her birthday today. So, please come over and select a sweet treat for the rest of Session. I'm very sure that we'll need it. Thank you."

"Thank you, Sir. House Bill 3785, Representative McDermed. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative McDermed."

"Mr. Andersson."

"Sponsor yields." 10000040.docx 145  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Flowers, Mah. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 102 voting 'yes', 13 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Members, please listen. In an effort to keep moving in the Calendar and get these Bills finished, we're putting… we're going back to the Short Debate rules which includes a two-minute timer. But the Short Debate rules also say one person on each side will debate. So, we're going to enforce that rule and we're not going to allow any extension of time. So, when the microphone turns you off, we move on. The next Bill is House Bill 3216, Representative Wallace. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill for a third time."

"Representative Wallace."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a Bill that puts some safeguards in place and puts the basic notion that we should not be doing third-party contracts that may or may not save us any money on to the record. I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Andersson for two minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"We do need to make sure that these contracts are in the best interest of the state. I do believe that it would be applicable to just about every contract."

"Well, right now, the… the department that is already handling that will continue to…"

"Well, they curr… they currently handle the procurement."

"Well, we do have some examples of just a few dollars being saved and yet, an outside entity was performing the work that perhaps the state workers could have performed. So, I would say that we need to be really looking at this notion of what is best for the state. Or we have instances where it really didn't save any money."

"Representative Wallace to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a good sense measure. And I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Davis, Drury, Martwick, Nekritz, Sente, Turner. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 64 voting 'yes', 52 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3061, Mr. Guzzardi. Please read the Bill." 10000040.docx 148  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Mr. Guzzardi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Pardon the delay. I rise today in support of House Bill 3061. It's a piece of legislation that would divest Illinois's pension funds from any company that takes a contract to build a border wall in Mexico pursuant to President Trump's Executive Order. This Bill is modeled on legislation that we passed in the 99th General Assembly pertaining to companies that boycott the State of Israel. That legislation passed by a vote of 102 to 0. So, the state has clearly… the Legislature has clearly set a bipartisan precedent that we are comfortable with forbidding certain transactions from our pension funds if, indeed, we feel those transactions are not in the public interest. So, with that, I urge an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"This Bill is on the Order of Short Debate. Mr. Andersson, do you rise in opposition? Mr. Andersson for two minutes."

"Yes, Sir."

"Yes, Sir." 10000040.docx 149  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Yeah. This Bill only refers to wall construction as indicated by the Executive Order of the President on January 25 of this year, so not existing construction."

"We certain…"

"Right. So, this Bill pertains specifically to the construction of the border wall as, I mean… you can read in the legislation… it's building the border wall as made to… as it's described in the Executive Order. The Executive Order describes building thousands of miles of new wall along the United States border."

"Mr. Guzzardi to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To refer to the previous speaker's point. In this Executive Order… I'm just going to read it for you… it says in accordance with existing law take appropriate steps to plan, design and build a physical border along the southern border. This is… this is precisely the language that we're referring to. And… and as you mentioned, it is indeed a symbolic gesture, but I think it's an important one. Today, you know, we celebrated the Holocaust Memorial Day. The United States, unfortunately, has a tragic history of turning away refugees at their time of need, sending them back home to conditions of extreme violence. There are many stories… I don't have the time to tell you now… but the short version is, we have refugee children, women escaping violence coming over our southern border seeking a welcoming home in this country. And I think erecting a giant barrier to those people sends a very wrong message. And I urge your support of this Bill. Thank you."

"Those in support of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Time to vote, Members. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 57 voting 'yes', 10000040.docx 151  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 57 voting 'no'. And the Gentleman asked for Postponed Consideration. House Bill 737, Mr. Meier. This Bill is on Short Debate. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Meier."

"Mr. Breen, do you stand on this Bill?"

"Well, let's finish this Bill first."

"Thank you. Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Cavaletto. Mr… Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Mr. Breen." 10000040.docx 152  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Sir, we will follow the rules. So, if Members think they want more than Short Debate, let… that Chair will acknowledge that. There's no problem with that."

"We'll get the rules out and…"

"…that seems to be in front of you, Sir."

"So, I'll assume you're reading it to me."

"Well, we'll clear it up for you shortly."

"Thank you. Mr. Ford is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I have the great pleasure and honor to introduce a person from the 8th District. He's down in Springfield because he got accepted at UIS and he will be going to UIS in the fall. And he's in the gallery today, very elated to be here. Prince Washington, 10000040.docx 153  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 will you stand. Stand Prince Washington. Welcome Prince Washington to the Univer… Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Good to have you here. Thank you. Mr. Breen. Mr. Breen, in answer to your inquiry. Seven Members can request Standard Debate, would leave the principal Sponsor with a five-minute presentation, debate by two additional proponents, three Members in response."

"That's correct, Sir…"

"…I believe."

"Just so you understand, Sir. The idea here is to move this along and not have 20 people debate a Bill where we're stalling for no reason. House Bill 3083, Representative Hernandez. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill. Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 3755, Mr. Drury. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Drury."

"Mr. Speaker, House Bill 3755 is what I refer to as the condo owner litigation parity Act. What this Bill does is it levels the playing field between homeowners and condo owners and the condominium associations. Under current Illinois law, the law's extremely unfair to condominium owners when they're in dispute with their condominium association. Specifically, if there's a dispute between the owner and the association, the association can fine the owner. The… the owner has a 10000040.docx 154  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 legitimate dispute the association says you now have to pay our attorney's fees, which can lead up to a hundred thousand dollars or more of attorney's fees. I actually have a case sitting right here where the fees were around a hundred fifty thousand dollars. Any homeowner in their right mind would say even if I'm right I'm forced to pay the hundred dollar fine, the two hundred dollar fine. What House Bill 3755 does is level the playing field. It allows a unit owner who's in a dispute with an association to attain his attorney's fees if he or she is successful in the litigation. There's been a lot of misinformation put out about this Bill about what it does and doesn't do. So, I just want to clarify. This Bill does not take away any rights from the condo associations. They can still, if they're successful, get their attorney's fees. So, if someone is in clear violation of the rules of the association, they can sue and get their attorney's fees just like they did today. What this does is it stops there being in so much litigation amongst neighbors. It requires them and will force them to come together and resolve the disputes without the lawyers involved and all the money that goes into that. I think, you know, the opponents of this Bill there's only… the opponents of the Bill is CAI. And it's important to know that they stand to lose a lot of money from the… they're the lawyers. And they're not going… there's not going to be as much litigation, so they're going to lose the money. So, if you're for homeowners, and there's a lot of them in all of our districts… if you're for the homeowners, you should be for this Bill. If you're against the lawyers just making money off of homeowners, you should be for this Bill. So, I 10000040.docx 155  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 appreciate and would ask for your 'aye' vote on House Bill 3755."

"This Bill is on the Order of Short Debate. Mr. Breen, do you stand in opposition?"

"Mr. Breen for two minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"That is not correct."

"The Bill simply allows for attorney's fees. A judge would have to decide whether or not those fees would be awarded just like it has to do today for the condo association."

"It's the same as it is for the condo right now whenever their attorney's fees are allowed in courts. The court has to… the fee petition has to be filed. I'm actually holding a fee petition right here from the condo association for a hundred fifty thousand dollars' worth of fees."

"I'm… I'm answering your question." 10000040.docx 156  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Hold on one second. I just want to answer your que…"

"I want to answer your…"

"Mr. Drury to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"This Bill's on Short Debate. Mr. Drury to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think it's disappointing that even during the Short Debate that we're going to have misinformation put out there. The fact is this Bill levels the playing field. Right now, attorney's fees are allowed for 10000040.docx 157  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 the associations. Attorney's fees are not allowed for the unit owner. This simply levels the playing field. I've met with the opponents of this Bill. I've told them I'm willing to work on it with them in the Senate. I've been willing to do that all along. But it's important, if we care about the unit owners and we care about them having equity in their homes, that the unit owners be able to have this. This does not add a mandatory fee. This fee would only happen if there's litigation and a party wins and then the court awards the fees, just like it does right now for the associations. This Bill has bipartisan support. I have support from city people who… who have lots of condominiums in their district. I've got support from suburban people. And I've talked with a number of you, have addressed your questions. And I'm willing to continue working on it. So, I ask that today that we stand up for the unit owners. We stand up for having honest debate and not misinformation and that we vote 'yes' on what is a very important Bill and a continuation of the hard work that Representative Thapedi has done and that we show the unit owners, and there's hundreds of thousands of them in the State of Illinois, that we care about them and that we want them to be able to live in their home and settle disputes amongst themselves without all the lawyers involved. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 60 voting 'yes', 49 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby 10000040.docx 158  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 declared passed. Chair recognizes Representative Feigenholtz. She does not wish to speak. House Bill 3044, Mr. Hoffman. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill. 3044. Bear with us. There's a glitch."

"Mr. Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 3044 deals with the… Amendment #1 deals with the issue of prevailing wage. It indicates the Department of Labor shall publish the prevailing wage rates no later than August 15."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Hoffman."

"I was just looking at the bor…"

"The… the LIS that we're looking at shows you as the Chief Sponsor. Are you the Chief Sponsor, Sir? Then…"

"I am the Chief Sponsor, yes."

"Then ignore the board and do your Bill."

"I'm just very compliant, Mr. Speaker. And when I see something like that, it makes me worry." 10000040.docx 159  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Don't worry."

"Okay."

"We've got you, Sir."

"Thank you."

"You don't see Mr. Wheeler complaining, do you?"

"No. I…"

"All right. Please proceed."

"On the other prevailing wage Bills he would be complaining. I can guarantee you that. Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 3044, I believe, has no opposition. What it indicates is that the Department of Labor would publish the prevailing wage rates by August 15. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Davis, Flowers. Please take the record. There are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3803, Representative Cassidy. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Cassidy."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and Members of the House. House Bill 3803 is a new and improved version of something that I brought last year. After hearing some concerns from folks from the other side of the aisle, we worked on new language. We simply ran out of runway. We didn't have time. What this Bill will do is clarify an existing law that create… that 10000040.docx 160  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 really results in simply a tripwire for folks who are returning from prison. The… the law as it's currently written permits someone to be arrested for association with a known street gang member. What that results in, in many of the communities that folks return to, is someone being arrested simply for being in the company of a member of their family. I've seen arrest reports where a man was being driven to work by his brother. The arresting officer actually wrote that he was being driven to work by his brother, a known gang member and so the guy was arrested. He lost his job. He lost all momentum towards rehabilitation. What this Bill will do is clarify that the person has to be in… involved in activities in furtherance of gang activity. So, that there is clarity and simply being in your neighborhood, simply being in your home, simply being in your community is not a crime. I'm grateful to the folks on the other side of the aisle who helped work on this language. And I ask for your support."

"This Bill is on the Order of Short Debate. Mr. Andersson, do you rise in opposition? The Gentleman indicates he does. Mr. Andersson for two minutes."

"Exactly. It does require that someone be on parole for that new offense, but it is not a… it is not simply a violation. I will say that… that of the 216 people who were arrested in 2016 in Cook County, who were charged with this… this offense, absolutely none of them, zero, of them actually had their parole violated. Their parole officers were 10000040.docx 161  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 notified and none of them chose to use this as a parole violation. These folks were then released at their first court date with a new charge, with a new case against them but no parole violation."

"That is absolutely true. And the reality remains, this is not a factor that parole officers choose to violate someone over, but that option remains."

"That's absolutely true."

"Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 67 voting 'yes', 48 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional 10000040.docx 162  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 136, Leader Currie. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie on Amendment."

"Thank you. This is an Amendment that would just made some technical clarifications in the Bill that establishes the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Museum and Library as a separate entity of State Government."

"Mr. Reick, do you stand to discuss the Amendment? No, you do not. Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. Another technical correction in the… in the underlying Bill. I'd appreciate your support."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. There's been a lot of discussion over the last several years over the proper status of the Abraham Lincoln Library and Presidential Museum. Currently, it is underneath… it is a… a part of the State Historic Preservation Agency. The Governor has proposed by Executive Order to make it a freestanding operation. And this Bill, actually introduced before the Governor's Executive Order, will do exactly that. The idea is that the Museum, a national treasure, the largest archive of Lincoln memorabilia in the world, really needs to be able to operate on its own. It should not be a small appendage to what is essentially a small agency. So, this Bill does exactly what the Governor's Executive Order suggests with one exception. The members of the Board of Trustees, all 11, would actually serve six-year rather than four-year terms. Under the Executive Order authority, the Governor was limited to saying four-year terms, but the Governor's Office is certainly content with what we propose to do here. I would be happy to answer your questions and would be grateful for your support for the Bill."

"Mr. Reick, do you stand in opposition to this Bill? No. Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, 113 voting 'yes', 3 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Now, the Chair 10000040.docx 164  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 recognizes Representative Reick. For what reason do you rise, Sir?"

"The record will reflect your intention. Mr. Welter, for what reason do you rise?"

"The record will reflect that intention. Mr. Long, for what reason do you rise?"

"The record will reflect your intention. Under the Order of Resolutions, Supplemental Calendar #1, House Resolution 353. Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. This is a Resolution saying that we approve of the… part of the Governor's Executive Order that would make the transfer of the Abraham Lincoln Library and Presidential Museum to its own freestanding agency rather than being part of the State Historic Library. So, I know of no opposition. I would appreciate your support for the Resolution, as you supported the Bill."

"Speaker Madigan to close."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I rise in support of the Resolution. But I also wish to speak to House Bill 136. Both the Resolution and the Bill go together and they're concerned with the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum. People from across the globe 10000040.docx 165  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 come to Springfield to experience and learn at the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum. It is one of Illinois's greatest resources. Today, the Library and Museum, are under the Historic Preservation Agency, the executive director and advisory board appointed by the Governor. The Bill and the Resolution makes the Library and the Museum its own independent agency. It replaces the current advisory board with a new governing board with the 11 positions appointed by the Governor, subject to Senate confirmation. Members will have knowledge in matters related to history, business administration, libraries and museums, historic preservation, cultural tourism and digital conservation. The current executive director Alan Lowe will continue to serve, but at the end of his tenure the board, rather than the Governor, will appoint the next executive director. Allowing the Museum and Library to thrive on its own is an idea that I have been advocating for quite some time. I introduced this idea and started working on legislation more than three years ago. The Governor spoke of the need to separate the Library and Museum during his first address to the General Assembly in 2015. This past March he issued an Executive Order 2017-1 which made the Library and Museum a standalone agency. I commend the Governor for issuing the Executive Order. I am happy that the Governor and I can agree on this issue. The Bill and the Resolution implements the Executive Order with some changes. Number 1) the Executive Order would establish four-year terms for members; whereas, the Bill would give them six-year terms. For the record, the Gubernatorial Executive Order cannot provide for terms of more than four 10000040.docx 166  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 years. The Governor's Office has agreed to establish longer terms through legislation. Number 2) the Bill allows the board to take necessary actions to transfer the Library and Museum to the federal office of Presidential Libraries under the National Archives. Again, the Governor has agreed to this change. I'm certain that the Library and Museum will become a better institution because of this legislation, the Resolution and the Executive Order. And I would recommend an 'aye' vote on the Resolution. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Those in favor of the Resolution will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 114 voting 'yes', 3 voting 'no'. And the Resolution is adopted. Mr. Butler is recognized."

"Proceed, Sir."

"House Bill 1914, Mr. Reis. Please read the Bill." 10000040.docx 167  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Mr. Reis."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 115 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2771, 2771, Mr. Mitchell. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Mr. Mitchell." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I come before this chamber today with the Healthy Workplace Act, also known as paid sick leave for the State of Illinois. This is an incredibly important economic issue and also one of fairness and acc… and access. Right now, more than 40 percent of all private sector workers in Illinois, which is more than 2.5 million people, have no right to paid sick leave. More than three-fourths of the lowest wage workers do not receive paid sick days; whereas, that number is less than 10000040.docx 168  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 20 percent for the top quintile. Let me explain a bit about what this Bill does on some of the concessions we made to business advocates. So, this Bill would provide five days of paid sick leave. It would occur at a… it would accrue at a rate, I should say, of 1 hour for every 40 hours worked. An employee would not be eligible to take that paid sick time until they've worked there for more than 180 days. That eliminates seasonal workers. Originally this Bill provided for 7 days; originally that accrual or that… the employee would have been eligible to start taking those at 120 days rather than 180 days. We made that concession for business. An increment can be as small as 4 hours; originally it was 2 hours, but to accommodate that being half of a retail shift, we also made that change. This is incredibly important issue whose time has come. I believe it is a bedrock principle of the State of Illinois that no worker should lose their job because of a sick kid or a snow day. This has already passed in Cook County and the City of Chicago. And my belief is if it's good enough for Cook County, it ought to be good enough for the rest of the state. I respectfully request an 'aye' vote and look forward to any questions."

"This Bill, Ladies and Gentlemen, is on the Order of Standard Debate. Mr. Wheeler is recognized." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You said you were on Standard Debate. Is that correct?"

"Standard Debate." Wheeler, K.: "Can I…"

"You can speak up to five minutes…" Wheeler, K.: "Five minutes." 10000040.docx 169  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"…if you really want to." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Sir."

"Thank you, Sir." Wheeler, K.: "Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you. Representative, we… I talked on this Bill in committee. I want to just hit some of the points that were made there. Can you explain that construction exemption that's in the Bill, very quickly?" Mitchell, C.: "I'm sorry. I'm having trouble hearing your question. Repeat it, Mr. Wheeler." Wheeler, K.: "There's a… there is a construction exemption in the Bill. Is that correct?" Mitchell, C.: "Yes, that's correct. So, that also exists in the City of Chicago and Cook County. And basically, that is because for the most part… similar also to park districts, school districts… those units are generally covered by collective bargaining agreements that have already sort of negotiated that. You'll note that there's also exemptions for… for other folks who have a benefit that is already sort of equal or greater, for example, paid time off. So, it's sort of holding consistent with that principle saying if someone is already doing something greater and that they ought to be remoted… rewarded as a high… as a high road employer." Wheeler, K.: "And just to be clear, for construction employees that are not union does this exemption apply to them as well?" Mitchell, C.: "I believe the answer to that question is yes." Wheeler, K.: "Okay. That's what you said in committee. I wanted to make sure we had that on the floor as well. There was a 10000040.docx 170  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 couple of different sparks to the language I wasn't clear on. So, for legislative purposes and intent, that is correct, correct?" Mitchell, C.: "That is correct, Sir." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you. And then, I have one question about the… the limit. How soon can a… Let me back up a second. How soon can an employee take advantage of paid sick leave under this Bill?" Mitchell, C.: "So, you have to… so, your… it begins to accrue the second that you start the job, Representative Wheeler, but you have to have worked for at least six months to take your first paid sick day." Wheeler, K.: "Okay. Thank you for that. And then… that is… Can you describe the fiscal impact of the Bill on the state itself?" Mitchell, C.: "I would have to check. I don't have a note. The Department of Labor usually does one. Let me look." Wheeler, K.: "Okay. Our analysis shows that an impact of $843 thousand." Mitchell, C.: "That's… that's the number I have, Representative. I just found it. That's correct." Wheeler, K.: "All right. Thank you. The limit on the number of sick days that can be accrued, is that set in statute?" Mitchell, C.: "Yes, it is. It's set at five days." Wheeler, K.: "At five days." Mitchell, C.: "Yes." Wheeler, K.: "Okay. But an employer can raise it higher if they so choose. Is that what I read?" 10000040.docx 171  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 Mitchell, C.: "They can. So, if an employer… For example, if an employer right now and there are a couple of these and it's actually giving us an opportunity to note… there are some employers who were concerned, hey, we give a more generous benefit. We want clarification to make sure that our benefit applies. Ameren is an example of this. There’ll be clarifying language in the Senate assuming it passes over. But right now, there are folks who are offering more generous benefits than five days. They are more than allowed to do that. This is a minimum standard to ensure that every worker in Illinois has at least five days of paid sick time over time." Wheeler, K.: "All right. Thank you, Representative. Are any of the business groups of your Amendment been removed from their opposition?" Mitchell, C.: "No. This… the business groups, and I thank them for working in good faith on this, have made this a better Bill. But because it remains a mandate, they remain opposed." Wheeler, K.: "Okay. Thank you. To the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, I do appreciate the Sponsor's good intentions and a willingness to work with business groups on this. However, this is just one more item that a small business is going to have a difficult time trying to accommodate because, frankly, they're… we are putting a lot of mandates on them recently in the state and then, the… the end of all things, the Federal Government was request a few, it becomes a difficult process to want to be a small business owner in this state. I believe the Department of Labor said they don't have a way to really track and manage this system as far as accommodating who is in compliance and who is not. While I, again, appreciate the 10000040.docx 172  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 Sponsor's approach, I don't think this is going to be a great Bill for small business. At this time, I'd urge you to vote 'no'. Thank you."

"Mr. Hays for up to five minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"Sponsor to close." Mitchell, C.: "Well, I want to thank everyone for the debate. And I want to thank our partners in the business community for continuing to help make this a better Bill. This is about making sure that someone in the State of Illinois simply does not lose their job because they had a sick kid, ensuring that folks who are our most vulnerable in our economy have a chance to live a halfway decent life and to make sure that our lower income workers who are least likely to have paid sick days will now have access. So, with that, I ask for 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Sente. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 66 voting 'yes', 51 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2453, Representative Stuart. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Stuart."

"Thank you. Today I'm presenting House Bill 2453, which changes the way revenue collected from sales tax is deposited into the Downstate Public Transportation Fund to help fund 10000040.docx 174  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 transit districts in 96 counties. People throughout the state depend on public transit to get to work, school, medical appointments. This Bill will ensure that transit districts will not have to drastically reduce services or even shutdown entirely. I'd appreciate a 'yes' vote."

"Mr. Andersson. This Bill's on Short Debate. Do you stand in opposition?"

"Mr. Andersson for two minutes."

"Yes."

"Excuse me?"

"Because we have transit districts downstate that are under threat of closing and we have people that can't get to school and jobs and medical appointments."

"This Bill is concerning transportation."

"I'm just… This… this Bill is just really asking for parity with the RTA, making sure that our transit districts get funded. I mean, I've got bipartisan sponsorship on this Bill 'cause we've got people in areas across the state that don't want to lose their public transportation."

"Do I see 7 hands? I see 7 hands. We'll move it… I see 70 hands. The Bill will be put on the Order of Standard Debate. You may complete your debate, Sir."

"Representative Ives."

"Representative Ives, have you completed your questions? Mr. Hoffman."

"Yes. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is very simple. And I don't believe what the… I think maybe there's just some misunderstanding what this does. Currently, under our current law, 3/32 of 80 percent of the net sales tax revenue generated by municipalities and counties within the boundaries of any given downstate transit districts. So, that's money that's collected within those districts gets put into a special fund. However, that money has… this just says that money will automatically… automatically be released to the local transit districts. It's their money. It's money we say they're supposed to get. And now, we're not going to wait on the inaction or action of us or anyone else before they get their money. That's all 10000040.docx 177  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 this does. It's not new money. It allows them to get the money that they… they have been statutorily allowed to get."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer is recognized, the third and final person under Standard Debate. Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"So, this… the Chair misspoke. The Gentleman was in favor of the Bill. Mr. Wehrli, do you rise in favor or su… or opposed to the Bill?"

"We can do that. Mr. Andersson for five minutes, the last speaker on the Bill."

"Those in favor of the Bill vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Cassidy, Chapa LaVia, Rita. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 102 voting 'yes', 12 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2810, Mr. Spain. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Spain."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Cassidy, Flowers, 10000040.docx 179  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 Sosnowski. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 607, Mr. Yingling. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Yingling."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Illinois has over 7 thousand units of local government, which has led to redundancies and inefficiencies which cost property taxpayers more every year. HB607 addresses this issue by empowering local officials to consolidate their township highway commissions with voter approval. HB607 specifically does a couple things: Number 1) it clarifies existing… existing statute that a township highway commission shall automatically consolidate if it has four centerline… centerline miles of road or less. It also clarifies… Excuse me. The main component of the Bill expands existing… existing State Law that currently applies only to Cook County to every county in the state. The law puts in place a mechanism for voters to consolidate the operations of their township highway commission. So, this is how it works: Number 1) the township board of trustees can place a question on the ballot as to whether the township highway commission should be consolidated into the township board of trustees. Number 2) a majority of voters must vote in favor of the question. Number 3) if approved by the highway… if approved, the highway commission shall be consolidated upon the completion of the highway commissioner's term in office or 10000040.docx 180  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 within 90 days after the election, whichever is later. And then finally, the township board of trustees then becomes responsible for all responsibilities, duties, obligations and tax levies formerly held by the highway commission. I'm happy to answer any questions."

"This Bill's on the Order of Short Debate. Mr. Riley, do you speak in opposition? He's your seatmate."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, in terms of incorporating all of the duties of the township of the road district, does the township also get that levy?"

"The answer is yes."

"What's really the difference between what we're doing right now and the fact that the township supervisor is the… the de facto treasurer of the road district? What would you really be gaining?"

"So, that would be based on a township by township basis. One of the things that we have to look at, at a statewide level, is as we start to look at ways to consolidate government we have to recognize that Illinois is very geographically diverse, so what might be good for one area of the state could actually be detrimental for another area of the state. So, by giving local control to each township to make a decision that's right for them, that would help alleviate any unintended consequences to other units of… to other areas of the state. So, depending on what a specific situation is for a specific township, they could potentially gain… and I would argue depending… they could gain a large 10000040.docx 181  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 efficiencies with the township board of trustees and the supervisor then having control over the highway levies."

"Can you just give me an example of those efficiencies."

"Sure. So, right now, under… under existing law, the township board of trustees does not have direct control over the tax levies. So, I will give you an example in my township. So, right now, in my township there's about 11 miles of road. There's no mechanism to consolidate that right now for the residents in my township. Right now, our highway tax levies are $2 million. So, the people that I represent are being taxed $2 million each year to maintain 11 miles of road. So, by consolidating the functions of the highway commission into the… into the functions of the township board, it provides for efficiency and it also provides for that township board then to enter into intergovernmental agreements with other neighboring townships, with potentially other governmental bodies or private contractors."

"But you see, couldn't the township… couldn't the existing road commissioner do those same kind of things?"

"Please bring your remarks to a close."

"Can you do those same kinds of things now in terms of entering into intergovernmental agreements?"

"It… it could, yeah."

"Mr. Yingling, you may close if you wish."

"Thank you. Our… our constituents are demanding that we take action to streamline government, eliminate inefficiencies and alleviate the ever-growing property tax burden that… that they have to bear. This is a commonsense measure that has already been working within Cook County. As 10000040.docx 182  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 we focus on government consolidation across the state, it is important to acknowledge that Illinois is very geographically diverse. A one size fits all model could be detrimental to certain areas of the state and therefore, we must focus on providing the tools to local government. This Bill provides local control for our constituents so they can make whatever decision is right for them. I would strongly encourage an 'aye' vote. And I would appreciate your support. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Sauer, Sims, Sommer, Turner, Unes, Wheeler. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 75 voting 'yes', 35… 34 voting 'no', 3 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 123, Mr. DeLuca. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. DeLuca."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, House Bill 123 creates the Indigenous Peoples Day in the State of Illinois on the last Monday in September of each year. This will not be a day off. There is no cost to the state. I'd like to thank Representative Rita Mayfield for her assistance on this. Thank you very much, Rita. And I ask for your 'yes' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all 10000040.docx 183  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members, Members, Members. Please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declass… declared passed. The Chair recognizes Mr. Harris. The Chair doesn't recognize Mr. Harris. Mr. Hoffman, 2525. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Earlier today we had the Bill that would provide for a not-for-profit workers' compensation insurance program that would allow individuals in… businesses to reduce their premiums. On House Bill 2525, this is the workers' compensation reform Bill that we had passed in the last General Assembly. This Bill, together with the previous Bill, I believe will go a long way in reducing the cost of workers' compensation to employers in Illinois. What does this Bill do? As you may remember, what this Bill would do is provide for a rate in premium review. For the first time in Illinois, we would join most other states in providing for review of workers' compensation insurance rates to make sure that they are adequate and not overly… overly being charged. It provides 10000040.docx 184  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 for safety and return to work incentives to employers. It would provide these incentives to help employers have safety and return to work programs. In addition, it would… it would take the issue of causation and it would, for the first time, do it statutorily put into Illinois law the issue of causation reflecting recent Supreme Court decisions. It… it would also codify the issue of traveling employees and court decisions in that regard. And it would provide employer relief in that it would provide relief if there is an employee who was injured by cumulative trauma and would allow employers to seek contributions or reimbursements for prior… from a prior employer. Finally, the last provision of the Bill would provide for a Workers' Compensation Premium Rates Task Force will be made up of business and labor representatives. And this is a result of the hearings that we had last year, the subject matters hearings we had as well as the Committee of the Whole. I ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"Mr. Andersson. This is… Bill is on Standard Debate, Ladies and Gentlemen. Mr… Mr. Andersson."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes."

"Well, I wouldn't say that." 10000040.docx 185  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"I wouldn't say that. So, for the first time, Illinois law is going to specifically define causation so that it's statutorily in the law, in the Illinois Revised Statutes as opposed to relying on one court de… from one court decision to the next. There would be a clear, bright standard that will ensure that pe… the employers and employees know what the law with regard to causation is."

"Again, I would disagree."

"Yes."

"Well, why don't you explain your concern?"

"Well, here's what I can tell you."

"Okay. I'm not an insurance expert, maybe you are. I'm not."

"And… but what I can tell you is Illinois… Illinois is surrounded by states that all have prior rate approval. Every 10000040.docx 186  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 time that we… we talk about the issue or hold this conversation, we talk about competitiveness for our employers and competitiveness in a workers' compensation system. These other states have prior rate review. Okay? What we are saying here is…"

"I apologize. I was talking to legal counsel."

"Yes…"

"…not premiums."

"Mr. Wheeler for up to five minutes." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you. Representative Hoffman, we're looking at a couple things here that have been covered. I want to make sure I understand them, the way your Bill intends. Looking at 10000040.docx 188  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 premium review for the first time, right? We're actually going to have the pre-file."

"Yeah. This… so, maybe what… what I can… what I can do is I can attempt to… maybe I haven't done a good job of laying out the way the Bill… the intent of the Bill and what it would actually do with regard to rate review. First of all, there would be rate reviews. So, the previous speaker was correct. There would be rate reviews. Then you do take a lost ratio into account and you then have a premium for an individual employer. See, under this Bill, a employer could… could contest that his premium is excessive as well. So, there'll be prior rate review, prior rate approval and then, there will be in place the ability of an employer to object to their premium." Wheeler, K.: "Okay. But in your… your conjecture is that this is going to lower premiums?"

"Yes. Yes. The objective is… is that in 2000… and I hate to sound like a broken record 'cause we've talked about this so long… but just to lay it out. 2011 we passed a significant workers' compensation reform package through the Illinois General Assembly. NCCI, which is the rating organization for insurance companies, has indicated there should be a 30… 30… over 30 percent cost reduction in the system… there has been a 30 percent cost reduction system… in the system since that time. What I'm told by employers in my area, and I think employers throughout the state, they have not seen a reduction in their premiums." Wheeler, K.: "I understand that. Then I agree that we haven't seen that reduction. There may be other factors in place 10000040.docx 189  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 beside the actual rate itself because the premium is not just the linear relationship with whatever the rate is expected… it’s going to be. There are more components to it. There's overhead; there's process… somethings that you actually want to have in place. We don't have a lot of time here, so I'll move on to… to just recover the… the idea that… that there are 332 companies that offer workers' compensation reform or workers' compensation insurance right now in this state, correct?"

"It's my understanding that there are 300 and some… I don't know if it's 32 or 33… 332 companies that are licensed to write in the state. I don't know if they're actually writing in the state." Wheeler, K.: "But they could if they chose to so. The reason I bring that up is because one of the things that came up in committee was that the compens… or the you… the savings weren't being passed along to the actual end users, the companies that purchase the workers' compensation insurance; therefore, the insurance companies must be holding back some of these savings. That was part of the discussion we had in committee. Is that…"

"Well, what I can tell you is what the previous speaker indicated. He used some data that was prior to the 2011 reform with regard to the profits of insurance companies. In 2011, the profits of the… of insurance companies truly were down. And I believe the profits were something like .3 percent, very low. Now, if you look at profits of some insurance companies that do workers' compensation insurance in Illinois, they're upwards of 15 percent." 10000040.docx 190  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 Wheeler, K.: "But… Okay. I mean, I'm going to real quick, Jay, 'cause I'm running low on time. The insurance companies, you know, I talked to said that their rates are about what Steve said, 2.78 percent profit. So, we're losing money back then before the reforms were put into place. Now, they're making some back. So, over a period of time you're going to average some better than another. My point is this. If you really believe that there is effectively collusion between 330 different companies about pricing in the market, really, we ought to go to the Attorney General of the United States and say this is an anti-trust problem 'cause that's what it would be. It's impossible to get that many companies to agree on something. Let me go to the Bill. My previous colleague on the… or the previous speaker on my side of the aisle talked about causation and codifying it. While I appreciate the Sponsor's intention to actually put it in statute, it's not going to change anything 'cause it's just codifying what we already have. This cannot be characterized as reform that will help business costs. It will not. It absolutely will not. We compare ourselves to other states that surround us. Their costs are lower, period, because their system costs less to run and less to the employer. Not all the systems are perfect. I don't want to be each one of those systems, but we can be more competitive with real workers' comp reform. I wish this… what this was; it is not. Please vote 'no'."

"Representative Ives."

"Three Members have spoken in opposition. Mr. Hoffman to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I just want to… just tell to… tell this to my friends on the other side of the aisle. This is truly, I believe, an honest, good faith attempt to try and reduce the amount of money that's coming out of employer's pockets here in Illinois and making sure that they are being treated fairly. People who commit fraud who are in… who say they're injured and are… who aren't, should not receive compensation. Insurers who commit fraud should not be in business. Employers who fraudulently don't have workers' compensation insurance and say they do should not be doing business in Illinois. What should happen here and this is a good faith attempt to have a multifaceted approach to go at prior rate review to make sure that the premiums are reduced to employers. To the previous speaker's comment, in 2010, prior to our reforms on workers' compensation, for every dollar that was spent on a premium and sent to an insurance company about 75 per… about 78 cents was sent back in claims… and paid in claims. Now, since the reform, the most recent Department of Insurance information indicates for every dollar spent around 50 cents is sent out in claims. So, to say that insurance companies aren't receiving as much and sending out less is simply wrong. Now, are they making a profit? I don't know. I can't tell because I can't see into their books. Are they paying the CEOs big bonuses? I don't know. Are they paying adjusters 10000040.docx 194  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 more money? I'm not sure. All I know is this. They are keeping more money than they have brought in, in a long, long time and it's all as a result of the hard work we did. So, if you look at the numbers, it's hard to say this isn't a reasonable approach. To look at other states, it's hard to say this isn't a reasonable approach. I understand. You talk about causation, you talk about traveling employees; you talk 'til your blue in the face about whether you believe that the size of awards for workers' compensation is reasonable. But the bottom line is this, if a person in Illinois is hurt at work and they're honestly hurt at work, we shouldn't have some red herrings so they and their family suffer. That's it. And if an employer is… can't pay the premium and they should be able to make sure that that premium is a result of a reduced amount that should be in place as a result of our taxes here in 2011. That's why I believe this is an honest, fair approach and will reduce premiums for employers all throughout Illinois while making sure that the legitimate injured workers are taken care of in a fair manner. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Andrade, Harris. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 66 voting 'yes' and 50 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3095, Mr. Stewart. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Stewart." 10000040.docx 195  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Guzzardi, Phillips. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3502, Representative Conroy. Representative Conroy. Please read the Bill. That's 3502, Representative Conroy. Let's get the right person giving the signals."

"Representative Conroy."

"Thank you, Speaker. This Bill creates an Advisory Council on Early Identification and Treatment of Mental Health Conditions. This Advisory Council within the Department of Public Health is… with the purpose of developing recommendations and an action plan to address the barriers to early and regular screenings and identification of mental health conditions in children, adolescents and young adults in Illinois."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Flowers, 10000040.docx 196  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 Greenwood, Hernandez, Williams. Greenwood. Please take the record. There are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 418, Mr. Wehrli. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Wehrli."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Drury, Hammond, Unes. Please take the record. There are 108 voting 'yes', 4 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3157, Representative Harper. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Harper."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm pleased to bring before the House, House Bill 3157 which would track food deserts in the State of Illinois. I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Do you complete your… your comments? Thank you. Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 114 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of Second Reading, House Bill 690, Representative Ammons. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Ammons."

"Thank you. I ask the committee… I mean, I'm sorry… I ask the full Body here to approve this House Amend… I mean, Floor Amendment that would provide for security and safety for workers as well as collect aggregate data in the State of Illinois for temporary workers."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill." 10000040.docx 198  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Representative Ammons."

"Thank you. House Bill 690 is entitled the Responsible Job Creations Act. This Bill is the first Amendment to it since about 10 years ago. The Bill is designed to protect about 840 thousand workers in the State of Illinois. And I am happy to answer any questions. This Bill moved as an agreed Bill. And I appreciate an 'aye' vote for this Bill."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Brady, Breen, McDermed, Riley, Spain. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 78 voting 'yes', 37 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of Second Reading, House Bill 313, Representative Feigenholtz. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Feigenholtz on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Amendment is agreed by all the key stakeholders. Twenty-five nursing organizations met over this two-year period and changed definitions that reflect the body of the Act in the Nurses Practice Act. I'm happy to answer any questions." 10000040.docx 199  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

Speaker Lang: "Representative Feigenholtz. Did you already explain the Bill?"

"I did."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Arroyo, Spain. Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3168, Representative Stratton. Please read the Bill. Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 2474, Mr. Demmer. Is Mr. Demmer on the floor? Out of the record. House Bill 2373, Representative Lilly. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Lilly."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the General Assembly. As you know, people with crime and criminal backgrounds are often routine denied opportunities for quality jobs, safe housing and education. House Bill 2373 will help Illinois families owl… overcome the barriers of 10000040.docx 200  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 criminal background and achieve successful, financial wealth. There's no opposition to this Bill. We have many advocates who worked along with law enforcement to make sure that we believe that the sealing process continues to work. SB2373 expands the number of criminal offenses that can be sealed under Illinois law."

"This Bill's on the Order of Short Debate. Mr. Durkin is recognized for two minutes."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Yingling. Please take the record. There are 80 voting 'yes', 34 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional 10000040.docx 201  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2802, Representative Mah. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Mah."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the General Assembly. This Bill… this is a Bill that requires covered employers, businesses with more than 25 full-time employees, to offer their employees the opportunity to set aside their own money in a pre-taxed basis in order to purchase transit passes. This would be through an already existing federal program set up for transit benefits savings that are pre-taxed. Employees can only access this program if it is offered by the employer. This Bill applies only within the RTA service area. And it offers exemptions for businesses within zip codes not covered by public transit. I'm happy to answer any questions."

"This Bill is on the Order of Standard Debate. Mr. Andersson is recognized."

"Sponsor yields."

"That is correct. It's permissive for the employees. The employees do not have to participate if they do not wish."

"That is correct. In fact, there are savings that employers can accrue as well because the FICA contribution would be less because it's a pre-taxed plan."

"That's correct. And the cost is minimal. Our research has shown that it… the cost for administration for each employee is 25 cents per month per employee which adds up to about $3 per year."

"Correct. The…"

"The RTA service area with exemptions for employers within that area in zip codes not served by public transit."

"Yes, that's correct. So, employers with 25 or more full- time employees."

"Thank you."

"Representative Ives."

"Sponsor yields."

"That is correct."

"But the… the Bill requires that the employee… the employer, rather, offer the program. If there are no employees that choose to participate, the cost is…"

"…minimal."

"Yes."

"But this… this program is similar to the health benefits savings plan…"

"…an employer… the employer offers any kind of benefits, this is something that is already offered through their…"

"…HR department and the cost is minimal."

"Yes."

"That's correct." 10000040.docx 204  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"So, the employer will actually save money from having to contribute less in FICA contributions. For an employer… an employee that makes $50 thousand a year, the employ… the employer would contribute about $120 less in FICA. So, in fact, it does represent savings for the employer as well as the employee."

"Mr. Olsen."

"Mr. Wheeler for 3 minutes and 48 seconds." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Wheeler, K.: "Representative, we talked about this in committee. I want to just put some things on the record for everybody. The… one of the things we talked about was the location issue. 10000040.docx 206  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 You know that I live on the edge of the RTA district. So, I want to make sure it's clear the way it stands. Is it the employer or the employee… Excuse me. Is it the employer or the employee's address that determines whether or not this person requires the offering?"

"If the employer is located within an area, a zip code, that is not served by public transit, then they are exempt. And in answer to an earlier point about the cost of setup, a third- party administrator is not necessary given that the RTA offers administration of this program at the cost of 25 cents per employee per month. So, it is a minimal cost…" Wheeler, K.: "I… I… Okay, I understand that. I'm short… short on time here. So, I would like to get a couple more things in with this, okay? Thank you for bringing that up. The… So, the location has to do with the employer not the employee. So, an employer could have… in DeKalb County was not RTA, just 'cause we have somebody lives in Aurora or east of there, they don't get involved in the program, correct…"

"Correct." Wheeler, K.: "…based on the Amendment? Thank you."

"If the employer's located outside of that area, yes." Wheeler, K.: "Okay. And then, we've got a fiscal impact here in our analysis that shows a pretty substantial amount of money. Do you have that in your analysis as well?"

"No. I… I think that the fiscal analysis that's provided is well out of line with our estimates because it is based on an estimate of an increase in ridership three times the current ridership, which is unrealistic. If the… if this policy increases transit ridership, a better estimate would be about 10000040.docx 207  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 10 percent. And that would bring down the fiscal impact well below what was listed in the report." Wheeler, K.: "Okay. But our impact shows an income of 128 to 183 million dollars annually. Even 10 percent of that would be up to $20 million, which is a substantial amount. So, please keep that in mind, people, when you vote on this Bill. The last thing I want to bring up, in fact, is government covered by this Bill or not?"

"Yes, it is." Wheeler, K.: "Are you sure about that?"

"That… that was… well, that was something that was discussed in committee. And I brought a number of Amendments to address the concerns that were brought up by committee. One of the concerns was whether government was included or not. I believe that we might have to add additional language to affirmatively include government and we can do that in the Senate version. But that's a… a minor change that we can make in the Senate version." Wheeler, K.: "Rep… Representative, did you look at… I'm running out of time here… Floor Amendment 2 seems to remove that. So, I don't believe that the way the Bill is drafted in Floor Amendment 2 that this actually does cover government employees any more. So, I wish we would address that as well. And finally, I just want to bring up the fact that if the gover… if an employer does not have a tax deferral program, so I understand they have to provide the transit pass, which is another element of small business. I'm going to go to the Bill 'cause I'm short on time. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is just another thing we're saying to business, you have to do 10000040.docx 208  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 this. This is a mandate, another mandate, mandate, mandate. When are we going to stop and look at how the businesses actually function in this state? While I applaud the Sponsor's intent, and the… I think the program’s actually a great idea. This is a mandate. We should vote 'no'."

"So, three people on the Republican side have spoken, but I'm not sure if they were all really in opposition. So, I'm going to indulge Mr. Batinick."

"Representative Mah to close."

"Well, first I'd like to dispute the claims that the fiscal impact is in the amount that's listed on the report. That's based on an estimate that would triple or quadruple the ridership of CTA, Metra and Pace. And our estimates instead are closer to the 10 percent increase. Now, this… while the opponents argue that this is a mandate and that we shouldn't… we shouldn't have a mandate, what I propose is that this is good public policy. It has minimal fiscal impact. And in this day and age when we have so many serious concerns about climate change and the environment and the human impact on 10000040.docx 209  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 the environment, this is something that we can do as… as public servants to have a positive impact on the environment using our ability to… to shape public policy. This is an environmental and green piece of legislation. It allows employees to save their own money. It supports mass transit. It increases ridership on public transit. And it is at a minimal cost to employers. The cost is perhaps offset by the increased ridership and used above the public transit infrastructure. So, I… I urge that we all support this Bill and promote environmental policies and positive behavior supporting our public pol… public mass transit infrastructure. Thank you very much."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Sims. Please take the record. There are 62 voting 'yes', 54 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, Rules Report."

"House Bill 2474, Mr. Demmer. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Demmer."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Please take the record. There are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of Second Reading, House Bill 3720, Representative Harper. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill for a third time."

"Representative Harper."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 3720 would simply change the way we calculate TIF surpluses to allow that surplus to be used for special education and wraparound services in Chicago Public Schools."

"This Bill is on Short Debate. Chair recognizes Mr. Andersson for two minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"I see plenty of hands. The Bill will be moved to the Order of Standard Debate. Please proceed."

"Can you repeat that, please, for me, please?"

"Yes."

"Yes, kind of. It's… it's very, very complicated."

"Most folks don't understand how it works."

"But I think I have a little bit of an understanding…"

"…as it relates to this Bill."

"Yes."

"Sure. Let me explain. Well, currently, TIF excludes anticipated redevelopment projects costs from the TIF surplus 10000040.docx 212  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 calculations. And so, as a result, some municipalities have chosen to accumulate excess TIF funds for anticipated redevelopment projects costs rather than distributing such funds to the taxing district."

"Well, sure. Let me explain to you the intent of this Bill. The intent of this Bill is to put money into our Chicago Public School system. As you know, or you may not know, we have experienced a lot of cuts this year. And the way that we currently calculate our TIF surplus makes it look like we don't actually have one when we do. And what it would do… what this Bill do specifically was that it would require municipalities to not exclude anticipated redevelopment project costs from the surplus calculation, which we know would increase the annual TIF surplus distribution."

"Mr. Harris for up to five minutes." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, Representative, just to be sure, this would make any excess funds in the TIFs and direct them to the Chicago Public School system, correct?"

"Yes, it would." Harris, D.: "And… and I understand what you're doing. And Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, let me tell you, I'm the first one to stand here and say that the City of Chicago has played games with its TIFs and how they move the money around and how they go from one to another and the like is… is perhaps questionable but… and the fact that there are I think 160 TIFs in the City of Chicago, virtually the entire… districts 10000040.docx 214  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 that aren't at all blighted are in a TIF. But the point is this. The… the use of the TIF moneys are beneficial for projects within… within the municipal boundaries. In this case, within Chicago. So, if you're taking all of that excess money out of the TIF… respective TIFs and giving it just to the city… the Chicago Public Schools, in effect you are limiting development… the development ideas that the TIFs were created for in areas where they really were needed. So, it's an extremely limiting factor and what happens if maybe a development is scheduled maybe two years down the road which they may need the money and you're taking all of tho… the excess funds out of that… excuse me… out of that TIF in one year? No question that the Chicago Public School system needs dollars. I understand that and would want to try to be as helpful as we possibly can, but to take all of those excess funds in all of those TIFs in the City of Chicago is an inappropriate approach because it limits development in the areas that really do need development, where these TIFs are located. So, I ask you to look very closely. I want to be sympathetic to what the Representative wants to do with getting money into the city… the city public schools, but at the same time she's harming potential neighborhood development simply to help the Chicago Public Schools. And I think that's an inappropriate approach and I urge a 'no' vote."

"Mr. Sosnowski."

"Sponsor yields." 10000040.docx 215  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"I'm sorry. Can you repeat the question, please?"

"I can't hear."

"You know, I'm not sure. But I really want to clarify what this Bill does not do. I also want to say that I am from an area… I'm from a neighborhood called Englewood, right, and we have TIFs there. So, I understand that TIFs are used to bring economic development in blighted area. I am not trying to do anything to hurt development in my area and to take away from our TIF. What this Bill does simply is just changes the definition of the anticipated redevelopment project costs. And the most importantly…"

"Go on. You're inter…"

"Seems to me you just interrupted the Lady while she was answering your question."

"Mr. Wehrli for 2:50."

"Representative Flowers, do you rise in support of the Bill?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I do."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you. First of all, Representative, thank you very much for bringing this legislation forward. And I want to ask would your district be considered, in regards to the definition of a TIF District, would your district qualify for that?"

"Many areas in my district qualify…"

"Okay."

"…for the TIF District. I do have many TIFs in my district. I live in one."

"So, tax increment financing is a special funding tool used by the City of Chicago to promote the public and private investment across the city. Is your district in the city?"

"Yes."

"Okay. Now, according to… under State Law, areas proposed for the TIF desig… designation must possess a numerous blight factor: the age, the Code violations, excessive vacancies, overcrowding of facilities, lack of ventilation like sanitary facilities, excessive waste, a dilapidated area. Is this what you're trying to address with some of the schools that's in your district?"

"Yes, Representative."

"According to the previous speakers, there have been some inappropriate use of the TIF funds and the 10000040.docx 218  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 inappropriateness is that it has not been going to the areas of the city which is really needed. And Englewood and west Englewood and other areas on the south and west side of the City of Chicago is one of the areas where the state definition of the use of the TIF funds would be appropriate. I would urge an 'aye' vote. And once again, Representative Harper, thank you very much for bringing this Bill forward, thinking about the children of the City of Chicago. Thank you."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, we've had three people speak in response and two people speak in favor. Representative Harper to close."

"Thank you. I just want to close by saying that thousands of students across Chicago… they come to school with significant needs including the need for a trauma informed service social services. This Bill creates a revenue stream for that… supervise those services. In addition to that, this provides increased transparency in the TIF program which is what we need which is what people who actually live in the TIF need more transparency on where our TIF dollars are going so that they're not going downtown to fund Grant Park. I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Conyears-Ervin, Jesiel. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 75 voting 'yes', 35… excuse me… 39 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 261, Representative Mussman. Please read the Bill." 10000040.docx 219  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Representative Mussman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. What this Bill serves to do is actually allow school districts a little more flexibility with how they use their transportation dollars regarding homeless students. Right now, we know that if a student is homeless under the McKinney-Vento Act they have to be transported from wherever it is they end up night to night which can be a huge expense. This gives the school district some flexibility if they can for a lesser cost use that money to assist that family with bills or finding another location within the district to be housed. Again, the highlights of the Bill are it has to cost less money and it has to be approved by both the family and the school district. I'm happy to answer any questions."

"Mr. Olsen. The Bill is on Short Debate. Mr. Olsen for two minutes."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 114 voting 'yes', 0 voting 10000040.docx 220  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3004, Mr. Riley. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Riley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 3004 essentially extends the RTA's short-term borrowing ability to 2020. We passed a Bill just like this a couple of years ago and it's going to sunset in 2018. This essentially gave the RTA an opportunity to increase their Working Cash Notes threshold of 100 million to 400 million dollars. So, we're just extending that two more years. I'll answer any questions you may have."

"This Bill is on the Order of Short Debate. Representative Ives for two minutes."

"I see plenty of hands. You are recognized under Standard Debate, Representative."

"That's not what it says."

"It can be sent… it can be identified by the Treasurer. The Comptroller can recoup the moneys that the Treasurer has invested… that the Treasurer has invested in the name of the people of the State of Illinois and they can get those moneys 10000040.docx 221  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 back in the rare case of the default, not the bondholders or anyone else."

"Where…"

"Representative Ives, ple… you know, we can have this debate. Please don't tell me what I said. First of all, I'm holding the language right here and nowhere in there does it say anything about bondholders. It says the Treasurer…"

"…may after giving notice to the authority, certify for the Controller the amount of the default at Working Cash Notes. In accordance with any applicable rules of the Controller, the Controller must deduct and remit to the Treasury the certified amount or a portion of those amounts and it lists out the proportions. So, it's… that's what this… what the language actually says. It's all it says and I did not intimate anything else when we had this debate in… in committee."

"That's not what the Bill is doing."

"Well, that is not what it's doing. That is not… Well… well, first of all… first of all, this is language… this kind of language about what are you going to do just in case there's a default, bond houses like this kind of language, number 1, but number 2, the chances… and statistically have something called a P value. The chances of the RTA or the CTA defaulting are, as we say, way at the tail for the distribution to the point where it's not going to happen. So, you're working on a false premise, Representative Ives."

"Because, as I say, that's standard language that's used all the time. If you floated a Bill, bond houses like to see that. And you can have that in there even though, as I already have said, a default has a… a very rare chance of happening. But that doesn't…"

"…preclude you from putting language in."

"Mr. Breen." 10000040.docx 224  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"There are no lights on, Sir."

"Mr. Riley to close."

"Thank you very much. But again, if you've read the language of the Bill, you see absolutely nothing… Now, it's really funny. We care about the poor. We've had Bills about the poor. Don't all of a sudden start caring about the poor when we've had all kinds of opportunities to make sure they service them. This Bill is pretty clear. It is to give a very important entity, the RTA, which you've done before, the ability to implement Working Cash Notes in a line of credit for their operation. The RTA's worth is about $158 billion. So, $158 billion, the chance of that entity going bankrupt is virtually nil, first of all. Second of all, the RTA has a AA bond rating. All we're trying to do is to help a very important entity that services 62 percent of this state. And they do it very well. Vote 'aye'."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Conyears-Ervin, Jones. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 60 voting 'yes', 56 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 795, Mr. Halpin. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Halpin." 10000040.docx 226  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 795 is a Bill that will require the state, when purchasing vehicles, to purchase vehicles that have a VIN number of either 1, 2, 4, or 5, meaning that they were manufactured primarily in the United States or Canada. I believe it's important. In a… in the spirit of several Bills that we've had here in the past couple days, that we encourage Illinois and American-made products. I believe the state has a duty to, as a buyer of vehicles, to prefer vehicles that are made in the United States and Canada under the… the labor standards and the environmental standards that we all operate under here in the United States. I believe we need to put our… again, our taxpayer money where our mouth is and support American and in this case, Canadian businesses."

"Mr. Andersson."

"The Bill is already on Standard Debate, Sir."

"Please proceed."

"That is correct, Representative."

"Sure." 10000040.docx 227  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Yes, Representative. So, the… the standard is based on the VIN number. The VIN number is determined under federal standards as to determine where that car is manufactured. It does not to need necessarily an American company, but it needs to be made here in the United States or Canada."

"It… it's country of origin or where it's assembled, which is the determinating factor in creating a VIN number."

"The country of origin designation is where the, under the federal standard, is the car is considered to be made. And that's why the VIN number… the first number of the VIN number indicates the… the country of origin."

"I believe that's a… that's a federal standard. Let me…"

"So, the federal is standard… is a way to determine the country of origin. I don't know all of the particular details that go into making that determination; however, I do know that it is represented by the VIN number."

"Could you repeat that, Representative?"

"Sure."

"Yeah… No. Country… country of origin is determined whether… a country of origin is the company that either completely manufactures the car or assembles the car. So, in your example, because it was assembled in Mexico, the country of origin is Mexico and will be designated as a… with a VIN number of 3, is my understanding."

"It would be excluded."

"Correct."

"Mr. Hays."

"Sponsor yields."

"I have not. And I should say, Representative, that I believe in this Bill. I hope it will go over to the Senate. I intend to try to pass it in the Senate. And I think it's good policy. So…"

"Representative, I can't control what anybody else in this chamber does. But it's my intent to pass this Bill, send it to the Senate, put it on the Governor's desk where I hope he will sign it in support of Illinois and American workers."

"I don't think that's relevant to this… to this Bill."

"It's not… I believe every…"

"I believe every country has the ability…"

"…as a purchaser…"

"Mr. Representative, I'm answering your question. I believe every country and every state in this union as a purchaser, as a buyer, has the ability to determine where they want to purchase their products from. If Australia decides that they want to make that choice, they can make that choice. I can tell you John Deere makes the best farm implements in the world and I believe that they will continue to sell those products. I can't control the… what Australia wants to do. If there's an Australian farm implement company that wants to compete with John Deere, they should have at it. But I'm more concerned about the residents here in Illinois and the United States. They're the people we're trying to protect with this Bill. I urge your support."

"Representative McDermed."

"It is…"

"Yes."

"It is… it is United States and Canada. Mexico is excluded."

"Sure."

"If we… if we had a term to describe United States and Canada, I would certainly use that. I believe North American- made is the best fit given what the goal that we're trying to accomplish."

"Repre… Representative… Representative, if it earned your support, I'm happy to change the titles of the vehicles to United States and Canada." 10000040.docx 232  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"I… I…"

"…I had a feeling that was the case, right?"

"I had a feeling that was the case."

"Mr. Butler."

"Sponsor yields."

"I drive a Ford Edge, 2013."

"I believe the Ford Fusion has a country of origin of Mexico, so the answer would be no. And I would also add that there is a comparable Ford C-MAX, which is made in the United States and a… at a fairly comparable price given the scope of the… of the Bill."

"I'm sorry. Could you repeat that for me?"

"I'm not excluding Ford Motor Company. Ford… Ford…" 10000040.docx 233  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"If I could answer your question, Representative?"

"To answer your question, Representative. This is not against any particular company. It's not against any… any particular Member of the Body that is purchasing a car. This is to emphasize that as a state we want to purchase cars that are built in here in the state… sorry… in the United States and Canada."

"Mr. Butler…"

"…the Sponsor removes the Bill from the record."

"Thank you, Rep…"

"Thank you."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"House Bill 3049, Mr. Fortner. Mr. Fortner. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Fortner."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 104 voting 'yes', 8 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3407, Mr. Sosnowski. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Sosnowski."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Sims. Please take the record. There are 114 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2987, Mr. Slaughter. Please read the Bill. Mr. Slaughter, you have a Floor Amendment. Please place the Bill back on the Order of Second Reading and Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Slaughter."

"Thank you… thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Amendment does two changes. It clarifies the definition of the youth that are in the custody of the Department of Juvenile Justice. The other thing that it did was remove a reporting requirement." 10000040.docx 236  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Slaughter."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. As we push forward as a state, nothing is more critical than assisting and supporting our most vulnerable at-risk residents. HB2987 creates an opportunity for our State Government to help our youth and young adults that have either been courted wrong, homeless, or part of our foster care system. This Bill is requiring that when a state agency has an opening for an internship or student worker position that those agencies solicit applications from the three agencies that manage and oversee those three at-risk populations. Those agencies are: the Department of Juvenile Justice, which oversees our court-involved and formerly incarcerated youth; DHS, which oversees our homeless youth and population; and then lastly, DCFS, which oversees our foster care population. For many years… many, many years both sides of the aisle have urged the private sector to give our vulnerable at-risk populations a chance and an opportunity to get their lives on track. HB2987 is asking our State Government to look internally and be that example. We shouldn't ask businesses to do anything that we aren't willing to do ourselves as a government. Let me be clear. This Bill is not creating a 10000040.docx 237  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 hiring preference. We are not asking agencies to hire these individuals. We are simply asking them to make the important effort to solicit applications. This Bill is not administratively burdensome. When the Bill was first introduced, there was a reporting requirement that some agencies had concern with. The reporting requirement was removed with House Amendment #2. This Bill is not asking for any agency to generate a report, a report back to a commission or a task force or the General Assembly or the Governor. A fiscal note was filed on this Bill. There is no significant fiscal impact. Let's show these vulnerable at-risk populations that we care about them and we believe in them. I urge a 'yes' vote."

"This Bill's on the Order of Short Debate. Chair recognizes Mr. Andersson for two minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"That's correct."

"What we're doing here is we're encouraging them by making them aware of applications for internships and student worker… and student worker positions."

"By soliciting their… their application." 10000040.docx 238  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"How do we identify them?"

"Sure. I mean, if it's the Department of Juvenile Jus…"

"All right. All right. I didn't know if you were paying attention. If it's the Department of Juvenile Justice, for example, that Af… the Aftercare Division will identify all those youths that are formerly incarcerated."

"So, if they're on the caseloads of the Aftercare workers. Let's go to DHS."

"If we're looking at the homeless population, we're looking at caseworkers that worked with our service provider that worked with the homeless population."

"Sure. And it could be an e-mail."

"It could be a phone call."

"Or…"

"…it could be a written letter that could be mailed. Sure."

"No, no. It doesn't. It doesn't."

"Those three agencies, yes."

"Yes."

"Not many. The HR department for each of those three agencies probably wouldn't…"

"Mr. Andersson, I'll let you just finish, please?"

"Well, I mean, I don't know their… the exact number of how many."

"However many may apply. I believe with DJJ we're not talking about a thous… thousands, maybe in regards to DCFS. But what we're doing is contacting the agencies. And then, the agencies will make those youth aware of the opportunity."

"Mr. Slaughter to close." 10000040.docx 240  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Ladies and Gentlemen, let's please understand how critical it is to help these vulnerable at-risk population. Getting an internship or student worker position can and often is the catalyst to begin the one… one's career. Instead of looking to others, let's create… creatively utilize our own resources, initiative and opportunity to address these at- risk populations. Thank you. I urge a 'yes' vote."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Gordon-Booth, Sente. Please take the record. On this question, there are 67 voting 'yes', 47 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 688, Mr. Zalewski. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Zalewski on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to adopt the Floor Amendment #1. It limits the ability to a certain time period of time. It makes other technical changes."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill." 10000040.docx 241  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Mr. Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill is an ability for a downstate service firefighter to enter the Chicago Fire Pension Fund. It al… it includes provisions that limits the window to a six-month window. And they can only transfer up to 10 years. In addition, the agreement we made with the city fund was that if the person wanted to transfer into service, the cost would be the service time in the downstate fund along with the tabulated portion of the unfunded liability from the downstate fund over to the Chicago fund. I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Andersson."

"Sponsor yields."

"I com… Steve, that's completely wrong."

"The unfunded liability portion of the Chicago Fire Fund will be accounted for when the person applies. They will have to be a calculation based on the… by the actuaries for the unfunded piece. That will be accounted for in the employer contribution when it's transferred over to the Chicago Fund."

"It's limited. It's very narrow. With it…"

"It's very narrow; it's limited."

"It's… it's minimal."

"Well, it's been a long day, Steve, but no, we haven't debated it."

"No, it's not reciprocal."

"Well, the reason we're doing it is because there's a… the… being deemed firefighters would say there's a limited amount of individuals, a small amount, that want to take advantage of this."

"So, there's no need… there's no influx of Chicago firefighters going to suburban departments; it's the other way around."

"Few… fewer than 10."

"Yes."

"Yes."

"Well… so, that's why we did the window. We don't want it to be a steady stream."

"If the… we limit the window and if it stays another five years, if there's another influx, I think that would be for this Body to consider. But for right now, we want to make this a very narrow targeted window."

"Representative Ives."

"Mr. Zalewski to close."

"I would simply say that the previous speaker is right. We do need a comprehensive solution. We had one in Senate Bill 777 that would have greatly increased the health of these funds. Otherwise, it's good public policy. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Wallace. Please take the record. There are 82 voting 'yes', 33 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 270, Representative Wallace. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Wallace."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and the Members of this Body. As the third… as the daughter of a 35-year veteran of the San Diego Police Department, I'm happy to bring to you House Bill 270 which is a Bill that is to hold more assurances for the public trust, provide for police accountability. And it simply states that if there's an officer involved in a sexual assault, he will be investigated by a unit other than the one that he currently works for."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? 10000040.docx 246  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3168, Mr. Jones. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Jones."

"…you… Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 3168, as amended, merely amends the Juvenile Court Act and Abused and Neglected Children Reporting Act to extend protections to delinquent youth and provides a report to the guardian ad litem. This Bill is the work… I want to commend Representative Stratton and those on the board for bringing this issue to the front. And I'm happy to answer any questions, but I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. There are 114 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3822, Mr. Evans. Mr. Evans. Please read the Bill. Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. Senate Bill 14, Leader Currie. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill." 10000040.docx 247  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. Without state action, the Municipal and Laborers' Pension Funds in the City of Chicago will be bankrupt in the next 10 years. In order to protect the retirement benefits of these city workers, and in order to protect Chicago taxpayers, I hope you will support Senate Bill 14. This measure moves the growth pension funds from the current multiplier decision about how they are funded to an actuarially appropriate funding mechanism. It will triple the contributions of the taxpayers of the City of Chicago. And in fact, the City Council has already approved changes to sewer and water rates that means that that money will be available. And after 5 years, the system will be on a… an actuarially sound basis. It's important to protect the workers and it's important to protect the taxpayers. If we do nothing, both funds will be bankrupt within the next 10 years. I'd be happy to answer your questions. And I'd appreciate your 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Andersson."

"The Bill is on Standard Debate, Sir."

"Sponsor yields."

"As you know, pensions are set by State Law. And State Law establishes a level of support from the city taxpayers that is not adequate to stave off bankruptcy in either of these funds."

"Well, sure. And we could also decide on our own that we're not going to fund anything for these workers, right? If what you're suggesting is accurate, then there's no reason to think that the pension requirements in state statute have any meaning whatsoever."

"In order to make it work, we have to change the statute. In addition, there are some benefit changes in this measure that have been agreed to between the city and the workers."

"But most important, these pensions are a function of creature of State Law and we, state lawmakers, have to change the law or these changes cannot happen."

"It would do two things. It would make this an actuarially based funding mechanism and it would, in fact, triple the contribution of the citizens of Chicago will make to these funds over the next 5 years." 10000040.docx 249  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"It… it certainly wouldn't fit under the structure of the current state statute. Besides this, as I say, there are things that are happening in this Bill that couldn't happen without state… state authorization."

"And in addition, I'm not at all convinced that the city could decide to spend more just as I think they couldn't decide to spend less. These pension funds were created by State Law. And I think that the State Law will govern."

"Well, if I… if I were a city taxpayer, I might bring a lawsuit, if the city and on its own hook decided to take more of my tax dollars to put into these funds."

"At that point, I believe, we will have… if you look at the charts. It would seem that we would know how much we are spending and we believe that between the contributions of the workers and the tripled amount coming in from the city, that we should not have any further dislocations in the funding formula." 10000040.docx 250  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Well, in fact, the way the ramp works is that there will be additional funds coming in from the city from the water and sewer tax already, as I say, approved by the City Council."

Speaker Turner: "Representative Breen is recognized, five minutes."

"Sponsor will yield."

"You're actually describing current law. And the actuarial tables I have seen suggest that at the point of which we get to the end of the ramp and we are on an actuarially appropriate funding mechanism, that there should not need to be additional tax increases in the City of Chicago. As I say, the city under this Bill will triple its contribution and the City Council has already approved measures that will make that funding mechanism possible."

"Representative Ives is next, but she can take her full time if she'd like."

"Representative Ives is recognized."

"Sponsor will yield."

"I believe we've seen the actuarial tables. And my understanding from the city is that their actuaries and the actuaries for the labor and municipal funds agree that this language… this statute, this Senate Bill 14, will make the funds, both funds, whole and we will not be looking at bankruptcy within the next 10 years."

"Thirty-two percent. So, we have a big problem here we need to solve it. In fact, what we're doing here…"

"…is helping the city solve its own problem."

"Members, a verification has been requested. Representative Christian Mitchell, do you rise in support of the Bill? Representative Christian Mitchell is recognized." Mitchell, C.: "So, I'll be very, very brief. I know that we're all very tired. There's been a lot of conversation about the policy of this Bill and I think everyone should just be honest. This is a policy that allows the City of Chicago to solve its own pension problem. It passed with bipartisan support earlier. It passed with bipartisan support earlier in the year and the only reason why anyone would be voting against this Bill, who voted for it on the other side of the aisle, is because the Governor's throwing a temper tantrum, as per usual, about his useless turnaround agenda and wants to leverage the kids in the City of Chicago and the taxpayers of the City of Chicago in order to gain political advantage. 10000040.docx 256  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 This is a very, you know, relatively simple Bill. It does relatively simple things allowing the City of Chicago to solve its own problems. The only reason why anyone would ever be voting against this is because the Governor is throwing a tantrum, which I think is one, unacceptable and two, indicative of his governing style. So, with that, if you don't mind, I'd love, if the Sponsor's willing to yield, I'd love to be able to ask a couple of questions."

"The Sponsor will yield." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you. Representative Currie, just… just to sort of emphasize the points that I've just gone over, could you run us briefly back through exactly what it is that this Bill does allowing the city to police its own pension system."

"In fact, this represents, I think, the best of local government. It might… reflects a… an agreement between the city and the members of the municipal and labor funds to make changes that will make the systems solvent. None of these people want in their retirement years to discover that there is not money to pay their pensions. Chicago taxpayers don't want that to happen either. What this Bill will do is enable the City Council to increase water and sewer fees in order to be able to expand the pool that will fund the system. The whole system will move to an actuarially required… a contribution level, which will stave off bankruptcy. In addition, there are changes in the benefit structure, not for any Tier I employee, not for any Tier II employee, but for Tier III employees to help sustain the system. It's a straightforward proposition. Actuarially it is sound. Without passage of this Bill, the funds will go bankrupt." 10000040.docx 257  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 Mitchell, C.: "And to be clear, right now, Leader Currie, the challenge was that right now the city can only make contributions based on property taxes. This Bill allows them to use funds, which I think they've already raised, to pay for these pensions. Is that correct?"

"I think we're already paying for the improvements in this Bill as… as taxpayers in the City of Chicago. But until we pass this Bill, the money cannot be spent." Mitchell, C.: "And right now, if the city fails to make… and according to this Bill, if the city fails to make its required contribution, the fund can certify the payment to the Comptroller. So, there is some potential for penalties if the city doesn't live up to…"

"Right." Mitchell, C.: "…what it's supposed to do. Is that correct?"

"And the… and the Comptroller intercept language is part of this proposal." Mitchell, C.: "Okay. So, it seems that this is a really good Bill that allows the city to just manage its own finances, to use its own local revenue to pay for its own public pensions. Is that correct?"

"That is absolutely correct. And beyond that, it reflects an agreement between the workers and the managers that this is the right way to go." Mitchell, C.: "And am I correct in saying I believe the Roll Call was 91 to 16. Am I correct in understanding that there were Republicans votes for this Bill…"

"Many." Mitchell, C.: "…when it passed in December?" 10000040.docx 258  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Many." Mitchell, C.: "Okay. All right. Well, I… look, I appreciate the answers that we've been given so far, but I do want to continue sort of looking at various aspects of the Bill. So, I'm looking at my analysis and it says that there are some benefit changes here for Tier I and Tier II members. Am I reading that correctly and if so, sort of what are those changes?"

"Sure. There are no benefit changes…" Mitchell, C.: "Yeah."

"…for Tier I members. For Tier II members there is the option of contributing more and taking an earlier retirement. For Tier III, that is hires… new hires… there will be… there will be changes in the contribution level. But they are not yet hired, so there's no… nothing… nothing that changes the benefit options for current employees of either of these funds." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you… And… and so, Representative, if you could help us, I think that there's been a lot of talk to them about just that the raw finances of this and a lot of sort of bluster from the other side about we need real comprehensive pension reform, even though the Supreme Court sort of tied our hands. What happens to the City of Chicago if they're not able to sort of bring their pension costs under control?"

"What happens is bankruptcy. In 2025 and in 2027, the actuaries tell us that these funds will be broke." 10000040.docx 259  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 Mitchell, C.: "And… and Representative, I… I tend to be a person who believes the City of Chicago is rather important for the economic growth…"

"Leader Durkin is recognized."

"Representative Willis is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield, please?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"Leader, what will happen if we do not do something to help in the City of Chicago with their current pension situation?"

"In 2025 and in 2027, both funds will have gone bankrupt. The effect of that will be that the retirees will no longer be able to collect their benefit checks. That to me would be a disaster. The city has promised these people that they will get a pension benefit. And if we do not make these changes today, there will be no money in the fund to sustain the deserving retired workers."

"So, we could be in a very similar situation that a few years ago the City of Detroit was in where many of their pensioneers went from having a full vested pension to getting less than 10 cents on the dollar."

"You're exactly right." 10000040.docx 261  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"And that would just be tragic for these strong, hardworking, mostly middle class, people in our state and in the City of Chicago."

"Accurate, you are."

"One of the other questions I have for you. You mentioned a Tier III employee. Can you please explain that to me? I am not familiar with that… what that is."

"These would be people who are not yet hired but could be hired after the effective date of the Bill. And the change here is that they will contribute more to the pension fund in order to help. Again, we're trying to make some parity. The taxpayers are contributing more. Tier III employers… employees would pay more into the system as well in… in exchange for an earlier retirement. And an option would be available under this Bill for the Tier II employees, that is anybody who was hired after January 1, 2011, until the effective date of the Bill. And those individuals would have the opportunity to pay more in order to take an earlier retirement."

"And we know that oftentimes by employees taking early retirement were able to save money because we're able to hire new employees to take those spots at a lower rate…"

"Exactly."

"…as we set in the new Article 7."

"This doesn't require anybody to do it, which is why we think this is totally constitutional, but it does give the Tier II employees that option."

"Which oftentimes we know from… historically, it's often a good option and many employees do take it because it allows 10000040.docx 262  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017 them to enjoy their retirement while they may have their health still in their… their best interest and stuff like that. One of the other questions, I know when I took office almost five years ago I was part of the group that was encouraged not to go into the GARS pension fund. And at the time, it was because we were very concerned about the pension and we were going to do some pension reform, which we did and I kept to that. But I also now, in retrospect, I look back at that and I realize that it actually had a reverse effect because by a number of my colleagues and myself included not going and contributing to GARS, we actually perpetuated the problem making it worse because the way our pension systems are set up is by new employees paying in, we're actually paying for the pension benefit of those that are retiring, correct?"

"Correct."

"And so, from five years ago where we were at about 30 percent, we are now down to 19 percent in GARS because of probably bad advice not to go into there at that time, but that's neither here or there. I think of… To the Bill. I think this shows that we are… the City of Chicago realizes that they are in a dilemma. They have to work through it. They have done this by increasing their property taxes, but they need our help and our assistance to be able to pay for their pensions to give stability to their employees. Without those employees available and being paid, we're having some issues. So, we're working on this to the best of our ability. And I would certainly urge an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Representative… Leader Currie to close." 10000040.docx 263  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. This is a very important solution to a very important problem. We've many other problems to solve, but if we don't solve this one, we are leaving good solid workers in the lurch and hurting the citizens of Chicago. I urge your 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 14 pass?' All in favor… Excuse me. Members, a verification has been requested by Representative Ives. All Members should be at their seats to vote their switch. The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 14 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. With 63 voting 'yes', 45 voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present'… Representative Ives, would you like to persist with your… Mr. Clerk, please call the votes in the affirmative."

"Mr. Clerk, please discontinue the verification. With 63 voting 'yes', 45 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present', Senate Bill 14, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2559, Representative Nekritz. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Nekritz." 10000040.docx 264  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is an initiative of the Illinois State Police. There have been instances where convicted criminals have sought to change their name in order to avoid some of the consequences from that and mainly the experience with the criminal was able to get a FOID card in violation of Illinois law. So, we have set up some standards here where when you go to change your name, if there is a criminal conviction in your background, notice has to be given to the state's attorney and… and the State Police have an opportunity to participate in that process as well."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 2559 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2559, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Stratton, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed, Representative."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just like all of the colleagues in the… all of my colleagues in the House to congratulate Representative Justin Slaughter who will be leaving tomorrow to get ready to get married… tonight."

"Congratulations, Representative. Representative Ford, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"A point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed, Sir." 10000040.docx 265  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 40th Legislative Day 4/27/2017

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I would like to not rain on the parade or Justin Slaughter, I want to congratulate him also. But we also have a new Member on the Democrat side that's taking photos… I think he's around here somewhere… John Berry. John Berry, will we all give him a big round of applause. He's been doing a great job. Thank you, John."

"Thank you. The Clerk… Mr. Clerk, Committee Reports."

"And now, allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk, Leader Currie moves that the House adjourn until Friday, April 28 at 9:30 a.m.; Friday, April 28, 9:30 a.m. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the House is adjourned."