Illinois House Floor Debate — April 20, 2018

"The House will be in order. The House will be in order. We shall be led in prayer today by Pastor Jessie Herring who is with Table of Life Ministries in Springfield. Pastor Herring is the guest of Representative Scherer. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off cell phones, and rise for the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance. Pastor Herring."

"Be led in the pledge by Representative Ammons."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Leader Currie." 10000120.docx 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record reflect the excused absences of Representatives D'Amico, Dan Burke, Feigenholtz, Gabel, Jones, and Zalewski."

"Mr. Demmer."

"Mr. Clerk, please take the record. We have 105 Members answering the roll and we do have a quorum. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

"Mr. Clerk, page 30 of the Calendar, Order of Resolutions: HJR74, Representative Jimenez. Mr. Clerk, read part of the Resolution."

"Representative Jimenez."

"Body will take a moment of silence. Those in favor of the Resolution will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution… Those in favor of the Resolution will vote 'yes'; opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 105 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the Resolution is adopted. To the family, thank you for joining with us today. Mr. Clerk, returning to the Agreed Resolutions. Leader Currie moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Moving back to priority order of Bills, Members, House Bill 4754, Representative Kelly Burke. Please read the Bill."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Lilly. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. There are 105 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4828, Representative Cassidy. Representative Cassidy. Out of the record. House Bill 5599, Representative Conyears-Ervin. Representative Conyears-Ervin. Out of the record. House Bill 4885, Representative Wallace handling for Representative Gabel. Out of the record. House Bill 4936, Mr. Demmer. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Demmer."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. There are 104 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, 10000120.docx 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5153, Mr. Davidsmeyer. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Mr. Guzzardi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, we have listed on our analysis that the AFL-CIO and AFSCME are opposed to this Bill. Can you explain their opposition?"

"Okay. It's your view that this particular issue is… you can work on it distinctly from the other issues that they're concerned about?"

"Okay."

"Okay. Thanks, Representative."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. There are 103 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3418, Representative Harper. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Harper."

"Out of the record."

"Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 4165, Mr. Harris. Mr. Harris. Mr. Greg Harris. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, G.: "Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen, Members of the House. For those of us who are worried about preserving the protections for our constituents in their private health care or their public health care, this is a very important Bill. This Bill would allow the state to protect our citizens from having, by action of Congress, their pre-existing condition 10000120.docx 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 protections rolled back or their ability to avail themselves of essential health benefits rolled back. As some of you know, in the Graham-Cassidy Bill and other Bills that are being considered in Congress, there are options for any state to file a waiver that would allow insurance companies, whether it's through your employer or a group plan or an individual plan to roll back pre-existing condition protections. So this would be going back to the bad old days to the worst old days, that our families worry about where suddenly, you know, if you had had cancer, if you'd had a sick child, you could be denied insurance or charged larger rates again simply by the fact that one of your family members had been ill. It would also allow insurance companies to drop essential health benefits from their plans and not even offer them. The most frequently discussed essential health benefits that insurance companies have talked about dropping are the most expensive ones: maternity care, behavioral health care, substance abuse treatment, and pharmaceutical benefits. And all of these could be waived by any state and those benefits dropped from both public and private insurance. It also would protect the State of Illinois from a waiver that would water down or eliminate protections for our Medicaid population. And the way the Bill functions is that in Illinois right now we are one of the few states where the Governor of the state, the chief executive, can file one of these federal waivers with no input or no approval from us in the Legislature. So, with stroke of the pen, whoever the Governor is, can file a waiver that would take away health care protections under Federal Law for Illinois residents. What this Bill does would be to 10000120.docx 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 require a Joint Resolution of the House and the Senate to approve the submission of one of these waivers any time a waiver submission would reduce, eliminate, or otherwise deteriorate health care protections that Illinois residents have. I think it's an important check and balance between the Legislative Body and the Executive Body. I would be happy to answer any questions and I would ask for a strong 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Bellock."

"Mr. Andersson."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Wheeler." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is just simply a mechanism where we can just prevent the Executive Branch from doing their job. You can't even start the waiver process without our permission unless, of course, we're expanding the cost of health care. Secondly, this is just another way to go straight to the heart and say, we are not going to really ever accept the idea of a work requirement as part of what we should expect from able-bodied people in this state who can contribute. Please vote 'no'. Thank you."

"Representative Fine."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Question for the Sponsor, please."

"Sponsor yields."

"If this legislation is not put in place then the Federal Government could take away the essential benefits that insurance plans sold on the… in the state, on the exchange, have to carry in the State of Illinois?" 10000120.docx 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 Harris, G.: "Representative, I'm having a hard time hearing you."

"With this legislation, we put a protection in place of the essential benefits that insurance plans sold on the exchange in the State of Illinois need to cover. Is that correct?" Harris, G.: "Well, yes, but it also protects those that are in employer plans. It protects those in individual plans or group plans. You know, the Federal Laws that are being considered would not only affect those in the exchange, but people would lose benefits like maternity care, prescription drugs, behavioral health, substance abuse, even in private plans. I mean, virtually every single Illinois person who has health insurance, public or private, is at risk of losing major parts of their coverage if one of these waivers should be filed."

"I have a big concern because in Illinois right now, we're working very hard on mental health parity to make sure that mental health is covered the same as physical health. And right now mental health and substance abuse disorders and behavioral health treatment, counselling and psychotherapy, are one of the essential benefits. Is that something that could be taken away and make it even more difficult to get those services?" Harris, G.: "Absolutely. They would not… insurance companies would not be required to offer them at all."

"I just want to go through a list of the services required under the Affordable Care Act as essential benefits, so people really realize what can be taken away without our knowing it: outpatient care; emergency room visits; hospital treatment for inpatient care; prenatal and postnatal care; mental health and substance abuse; prescription drugs; services and 10000120.docx 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 devices to help in recovery of an injury, disability, or chronic condition; lab tests; preventive services including counselling, screenings, and vaccinations; and pediatric services including dental and vision for children. How would families be able to afford these outside their insurance plans if they have to pay for insurance and pay for these services in addition? Thank you so much for bringing up this legislation. It's very important for the people in the State of Illinois."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

"Gentleman yields."

"Representative, I am trying to get clarity of what is the issue here because I am reading your analysis and it says that provide that the State of Illinois shall not submit a waiver to the Federal CMS that would result in more restrictive standards, more restrictive standards. And this Bill is specifically for people that's on Medicaid." Harris, G.: "This Bill is for people who are on Medicaid or people who are covered by private insurance, Representative. 'Cause if you look at Graham-Cassidy and the other Trumpcare Bills that are moving in Congress, each one of those Bills would allow these benefits to be taken away from people covered by both Medicaid and private insurance. So, you know, every single person in every one of our districts could be at risk from losing health care benefits under the plan they've had for many years through a private employer that they think their family should have and right now they're entitled to. And all this Bill does is saying that before Illinois signs 10000120.docx 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 up for that plan to start taking away maternity benefits, pharmacy, substance abuse treatment that the General Assembly should have a say. That's all this Bill does."

"And so, if I have a pre-existing condition, you're saying that this plan that I have… they could take that away from me. And so, I will be paying for the insurance because having insurance is still a requirement and I’ll have to be paying for something that's not helping me?" Harris, G.: "There are present provisions in these Federal Acts that would bring us back to the bad old days where if you had a preexisting condition or you had a child who had a pre- existing condition or your wife had had breast cancer, you know, whatever the case may be, yeah, you could be excluded from a coverage pool, forced into a high-risk pool, or have to pay exorbitant premiums far above and beyond what your neighbor, who did not have a pre-existing condition, is paying."

"And as a result, if this legislation is not passed, women can be discriminated against in regards to pregnancy and the birth of their child once the child is born." Harris, G.: "Yes."

"To the Bill, Ladies and Gentlemen. We're talking about people's lives here. We're talking about businesspeople making medical decisions. They're practicing medicine without a license to do so. We are paying insurance premiums like the same way we do on our cars in case something were to happen our vehicles would be fixed. With our health, in case something were to happen, we will have access to a doctor by way of an insurance company. The insurance company will be 10000120.docx 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 covering the expenses because oftentimes so many families have gone into bankruptcy, have lost their homes, lost their jobs, lost everything because of an illness. We should be trying to prevent that. Every day we pick up the newspaper, there's thousands of more people dying in this country because of opioids overdose. People trying to self-medicate. They are killing themselves because they lack… they lack access to care. I would really appreciate an 'aye' vote on this very important piece of legislation and if not, maybe we should look into sponsoring single payer for all, Representative, what do you think? Thank you."

"Mr. Batinick."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Harris to close." 10000120.docx 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 Harris, G.: "Well, Ladies and Gentlemen, thank you for the debate. To the… to the last speaker and some of those others who brought up work requirements as something that would not move forward under this legislation, that's one of the ones actually I don't worry about in this state because I've seen several quotes from Governor Rauner saying that this is not something that he intends to make application for. So, I don't think you will be seeing that come from the Executive Branch one way or the other because the Governor has said he thinks adding the work requirements are wrong. So that probably would not apply in this situation. But what this Bill does, Ladies and Gentlemen, is it asks us to do our jobs as Legislators. It asks us not to cede authority on one of the most important decisions that affects every single family in Illinois, which is whether or not they can have health care, what they are going to pay for their health care, and whether or not they can be turned down for services that they've come to expect for their kids, for substance abuse treatment, for mental health treatment. If you don't think that's our job to have an opinion on that, you know, this… this is what the Legislature is for, Ladies and Gentlemen. We are the voice of the people. We are sent… come… sent here to represent the interests and needs of people in our districts. And if you look at public opinion polling right now or if you go out and talk in your community, you'll see there is no topic that is more… high on the mind of every person and every family in Illinois and across America than fear for what's about to happen to their health care because of rising costs, because of increasing prior authorizations, step therapies, all the 10000120.docx 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 ways that have been used to, you know, limit and regulate health care. And it's got to make families' blood run cold to see that, you know, after all these years when they thought they were protected because someone in their family had a pre-existing condition that somehow they could not be discriminated against or their family denied health care, that we would be standing, you know, putting ourselves in a position to have helped those families protect their pre- existing condition exclusions and we, as Legislators, refused to do it and failed to do it. You know, I would not want to go home and have to explain to a family why suddenly they are uninsurable, where for the last several years they've had good insurance; it's protected them and protected their children under the pre-existing condition exclusion. I would hate to go home and give a speech about how we're doing so much in Illinois and caring so much about the opioid population, where because of our lack of action on this Bill, we have allowed the Federal Government to take away all funding for opioid treatment and prevention. Yeah, how do you do that? How do you go home and tell a mom that we've just voted to, you know, take ourselves out of having responsibility for the decision to take away maternity care or mental health treatment? How do you tell somebody who has cancer that, well, we had a chance to stop the Federal Government from eliminating pharmacy as a covered benefit and we as a Legislature punted. If that's what you want to do is punt on the health care of all the 12 million citizens of Illinois whether they're on Medicaid, whether they're on private insurance, you know, vote 'no' on this Bill. If you 10000120.docx 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 want to be on record as actually having stood with the families of Illinois, having stood against cuts to their health care, having protected people with pre-existing conditions, having fought for opioid treatment, fought for the health care for pregnant and parenting families, fought for more mental health treatment in your community, fought to keep pharmacy as a benefit, vote 'yes'. I urge everyone to vote 'yes' on this legislation. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Please record yourself, Members. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 59 voting 'yes', 44 voting 'no'. And the Gentleman asks for a Postponed Consideration. Thank you, Mr. Harris. House Bill 4288, Representative Hammond. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Hammond."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. There are 105 voting 'yes' 0 voting 'no'. 10000120.docx 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5148, Representative Kifowit. Out of the record. House Bill 4661, Mr. Martwick. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Martwick."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 4661 codifies current practice regarding ethics training for trustees of downstate police and fire pension systems. I know of no opposition. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in… Sorry. Mr. Breen is recognized."

"Sponsor yields."

"We are not. Representative, the ethics training that is currently required is spoken of two places in the current statutes. So the 8 hours of ethics training that is required is already covered in the 16 hours of annual training that they're required to undergo. And so, current practice is, is that they don't require them to take that additional 8 hours. This just codifies that."

"Thank you."

"Those in… once again, saved by Mr. Spain. You're recognized, Sir." 10000120.docx 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"So, I'll be completely honest with you, Representative. I don't know the specific manner in which they go about it. This only speaks to the requirements of the training. So in the current statute there are… the statute says that they must undergo 32 hours of training once they initially take their seat on the board as a trustee and then they have a requirement of 16 hours of annual training every year that they have to go through and 8 hours of that is ethics training. And then, in another part of the statute, it says that they must undergo 8 hours of ethics training. So this is just cleaning up that statute to say that the 8 hours of ethics training are covered by the 16 hours of annual retraining."

"Thank you. I look forward to working with you on that."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all 10000120.docx 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 104 voting 'yes' 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5544, Representative Moeller. Out of the record. House Bill 4469, Representative Stratton. Out of the record. House Bill 5778, Representative Stuart. Representative Stuart, running down the aisle. I guess that means you want your Bill called. Please… please read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Stuart."

"Sorry. So, House Bill 5778 will simply extend an existing tax credit for wages paid to qualified veterans. It will apply that tax credit to the spouse of the veteran as well. And I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"Can you say that again? I'm sorry. I couldn't hear you."

"Yeah. There was a… there was a technical Amendment that was able to fix that problem."

"It's… it’s up to 10 percent of wages with a cap of $1200."

"Exactly. Yup, for a business."

"All right. Sorry, it's my understanding that that Amendment needs to get out of Rules. So can I pull this and…"

"The Lady…"

"Thank you."

"…takes the Bill from the record. You wish to move this Bill back to the Order of Second Reading for the Amendment? Mr. Clerk, put the Bill on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 4965, Representative Wallace. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Wallace."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a Bill that continues the work that we've done over the last few years to bring stability to the child care assistance program in the State of Illinois. It is a Bill that will allow for 12-month eligibility to be granted rather than 6 month, which gives continuity to the family, gives continuity to the education 10000120.docx 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 of the child, who is enrolled in a program. And it also helps with the small businesses that are running these child care programs. I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"Absolutely."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes."

"So that's a…"

"Well, the…"

"…the eligibility is based upon their income. So under that scenario just because they're enrolled in school or not 10000120.docx 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 enrolled in school, if they are no longer… if they're not earning more money, they're still eligible in the program."

"You have to provide some… yeah, you have to provide proof of income to be part of this program. So, I mean, I don't know of very many people who are… I don't think I've ever heard of a case of a person who's not working or in school or both, who qualifies for the program."

"But that's it. Even if you were going into school in the fall, you still had to prove income to be qualified for the program."

"Absolutely."

"No. This is a 12-month eligibility consistent with the new federal rules."

"No, your eligibility…"

"…does not change. Your eligibility will be granted for 12 months. And as I stated in my opening statement, it gives stability to the child care providers…"

"…stability to the child…"

"The need…"

"…is for the child's continuity of education. That continues. That doesn't disappear."

"The small businesses that are… that this is part of their business budget that continues. That doesn't change. And with a 12-month eligibility, you still may earn a different job. You may enroll in the summer session. There are so many variables and moving parts. I can't say what a specific scenario would look like, but 12-month eligibility is consistent with the federal guidelines and brings stability."

"Well, why, if the Federal Government has already changed this standard?"

"The programs are also educational programs."

"I know that the… No…"

"…no, let… wait. Let me finish my statement…"

"…Representative Davidsmeyer, I will finish my statement."

"We have an erroneous belief that when we enroll children into child care programs, whether it's a home facility or a standalone facility… that the people who are providing these services are not also educators. They go through continuing education. They understand child development. They are structuring a day around learning. And that is what is going to be best for that child consistency and continuity in their early education process. We just had this discussion yesterday around attendance in early education programs." 10000120.docx 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"So…"

"I know that. I have two children now and each of them when they are within the care of a qualified child care provider, there is education… there is an educational component."

"I don't know of a child care…"

"…facility that just doesn't do anything that is educational with children."

"Everything that we do…"

"…everything that we do…"

"…with our children is educational. My seven month old is floating around here somewhere. He is receiving an educational experience right now, whether it's sensory, whether it is language, whether it is emotional, those are all parts of the educational process of a young, growing mind."

"We are."

"Absolutely."

"Absolutely."

"All right. So…"

"…have you… no, no."

"Okay. Have we… are there… is there any individuals in the chamber who have ever been unemployed in their adult life? Have you ever been unemployed in your adult life?"

"And when you were looking for work, if you had been a parent, where would your children need to be while you were looking for work?"

"Okay. And so, for people who have those, that's all great. Again, this is just a Bill to be consistent with the federal… the new federal standards. It will bring dollars to the state. And I don't think that anyone should vote against a Bill that makes us consistent with new federal recommendations and would bring back dollars to the state, especially since Illinois is a donor state in the tax process." 10000120.docx 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Thank you."

"Mr. Demmer."

"Sponsor yields."

"That is true. We haven’t been consistent."

"Yes."

"That's absolutely correct. Thank you."

"Representative Stratton."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, I note that this is amending the Illinois Public Aid Code Section 5… oh, I'm sorry, Section 9A-ll for child care. And under subsection (b) it provides that, at a minimum, the Illinois department shall cover the 10000120.docx 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 following categories of families, and I just want to make sure that this is correct. First of all, recipients of TANF…"

"Yes."

"…participating in work and training activities; secondly, families transitioning from TANF to work; thirdly, families at risk of becoming recipients of TANF; fourth, families with special needs as defined by rule; fifth, working families with very low income as defined by rule; and sixth, families that are not recipients of TANF and need child care assistance to participate in education and training activities. So, in reference to the prior inquiry, as to whether or not somebody who might be in school but then decides to not reenroll or is unemployed, this provision indicates that all of these categories would be covered for child care, correct?"

"Correct. Specifically, number three to your point. So families that would be at risk for being enrolled in the TANF program. So if they've dropped out of school, that puts them at risk, but what our hope is for them to have continuity with child care so that they can find gainful employment and find stability in their lives."

"And again, just to also clarify, when there's a disruption in child care, then that totally defeats the purpose of someone being able to find adequate employment or go back to school?"

"Absolutely. As you probably heard, when you are not employed, you should be working as hard during the day, as many hours during the day to seek employment so that you can 10000120.docx 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 gain employment. And children need to be some place safe while that happens."

"Thank you. To the Bill. I just pointed out that the… the Illinois Public Aid Code, the Sections 9A-11 regarding child care clearly sets forth the provisions of what needs to be… what needs to happen to qualify for child care. And I absolutely urge an 'aye' vote. That this is something that will help families all around our state who need child care assistance to be able to work, go to school, and to provide for their families. Thank you."

"Mr. Demmer for an announcement."

"Thank you, Sir. Mr. Batinick."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes. Can you imagine, I brought forth a child care Bill that will bring us money?"

"Thank you."

"Mr. Mitchell." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Mitchell, C.: "So I think the Gentleman from Dixon covered the fiscal impact fairly well, but I just wanted to ask a follow- 10000120.docx 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 up question after the line of questioning from the Gentleman from Jacksonville, I think misunderstands how child care works. Representative, are you aware of, sort of, plethora of families around the state whose… who… whose parents are gold and silver star child care providers who just happen to be looking for work in their spare time, 'cause I'm not?"

"No, I'm not aware of that." Mitchell, C.: "So, my understanding of child care is that it is not just parking your kid somewhere, but in fact it’s also an opportunity for this child, in a critical area of brain development at a critical time, to also get early childhood education that is not just good for keeping them out of the parents’ way who's seeking work, but for making sure that they are ready to go to school and become learners. Is that correct?"

"Absolutely." Mitchell, C.: "So, to the Bill. There seems to be this fundamental misunderstanding that child care is just some place you park your kid. And when you park your kid there, they're sitting there all day and maybe they learn something, maybe they don’t. But when they're no longer at work or they're no longer in school, well, you can just keep them at home and you can read them their ABCs. That's not how this works. There are really good child care programs that get people ahead, that allow kids especially poor kids, downstate or in the City of Chicago, to get a jump on their education. We shouldn't disrupt that for any reason, especially when we've got a positive fiscal impact. This deserves an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Ives." 10000120.docx 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Sponsor yields."

"It's been a combination of rulemaking and waiver requests."

"I don't believe there's anything in statute that states that."

"Can you restate that? I'm sorry."

"Yes, that's correct, but as was already stated, it wasn't a fiscal benefit to the state prior to now."

"They could, but as you also mentioned, the opposite could also happen. So I think codifying it and making it consistent with what the federal block grants will be moving forward that… well, that we hope will be moving forward…"

"…is important."

"I'm sorry. It's a little loud. So, you stated that we could…"

"Yes."

"That is always a possibility, yes."

"Representative Wallace to close." 10000120.docx 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Thank you. This is a Bill that is going to bring the stability that is necessary for small businesses in the State of Illinois that are overwhelmingly owned and operated by women and women of color. This is a Bill that will bring stability to families who are seeking child care and a safe place for their children to be as they pursue their goals, whether it's educational or occupational. And this is a Bill that will help consistency with the next generation and allowing them to be able to have the early childhood exposure to education that is necessary for their future. I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Burke. Please take the record. There are 100 voting 'yes', 4 voting 'no'… excuse me, Mr. Clerk. 103 voting… 101 voting 'yes', 3 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Leader Currie is recognized."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please add to the excused list on our side of the aisle, Representative Drury."

"Thank you, Representative. The Chair recognizes Mr. Rita."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I filed a Motion to reconsider the vote on House Bill 4508. I'd like to withdraw that Motion to reconsider the vote on House Bill 4508."

"For the record, the Gentleman withdraws his Motion to reconsider the vote by which House Bill 4508 passed. Thank you, Sir. House Bill 4855, Representative Wheeler. Please read the Bill." 10000120.docx 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Representative Wheeler." Wheeler, B.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to present House Bill 485, but before I do, I'd like to speak on behalf of the end of the of the alphabet caucus. Which includes: Unes, Wallace, Walsh, Wehrli, Welch, Welter, Wheeler, Wheeler, Williams, Willis, Winger, Yingling, and Zalewski. We would like you to at least consider starting at the end of the alphabet someday. Just a thought."

"For those of us in the middle of the alphabet, we couldn’t care less. Your…" Wheeler, B.: "So think about it."

"Please proceed on your Bill." Wheeler, B.: "Thank you. House Bill 4855 amends the FOID Act. It clarifies the definition of patient. It extends the time for ISP to make a determination on renewal and the current card will remain valid. It also provides, by rule for ISP, to suspend the card during an investigation. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill that she waited so long for will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Ammons, Guzzardi. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. There are 97 voting 'yes', 4 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Mr. DeLuca." 10000120.docx 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like the record to reflect I intended to vote 'yes' on House Bill 5153."

"The record will reflect your intention. House Bill 5477, Representative Winger. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Winger."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Arroyo, Williams, Yingling. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 104 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4828, Representative Cassidy. Out of the record. House Bill 5599, Representative Conyears-Ervin. Out of the record. House Bill 5741, Representative Cassidy for Representative Gabel. Please read 10000120.docx 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 the Bill. We understand there's a Floor Amendment, Representative. Mr. Clerk, please put the Bill back on the Order… wait, before you do that. Representative, you look like you're not sure and since this is Representative Gabel's Bill, do you want to take it out of the record and double- check?"

"No, I think it's okay. Yes, it is."

"Mr. Clerk, please put this on the Order of Second Reading and read the Bill."

"Representative Cassidy."

"So the Amendment simply allows that the report from the underlying Bill be submitted electronically. Given that this is an environmentally friendly piece of legislation, it seems appropriate that the report coming out of it should be as environmentally friendly as possible. So I ask that the Amendment be adopted."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. We're doing some Second Reading Bills now. House Bill 5251, Representative Fine. Please read the Bill." 10000120.docx 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Third Reading. House Bill 1439, Representative Gordon-Booth. Out of the record. House Bill 5196, Representative Greenwood. Out of the record. House Bill 5097, Representative Hernandez. Out of the record. House Bill 4687, Mr. Bennett. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4369, Mr. Sommer. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5104, Representative Ammons on the Order of Second Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Ammons on the Amendment."

"Thank you. The Amendment simply excludes commissary for Department of Correction inmates. We're going to come back and work on that later. So it… it removes that from the Bill and deals strictly with the inmate copay." 10000120.docx 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5611, Mr. Andrade. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Andrade on the Amendment. Mr. Andrade."

"Sorry, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, Amendment 4 cleans up a technical change and we're using the language that is already existing in the Bill to add a few other members."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4620, Representative Wheeler with a 'W'. Please read the Bill. It's 4920, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4415, Mr. Costello. Please read the Bill." 10000120.docx 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Third Reading. House Bill 4665. Representative Gabel's Bill, Representative Wallace to handle. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2617, Representative Gabel. Representative Fine to handle this one. Representative Fine. Out of the record. House Bill 4572, Mr. Guzzardi. Out of the record. House Bill 4234, Representative Harper. Out of the record. House Bill 5160. Please read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. Out of the record for the moment. House Bill 5784, Representative Manley. Representative Manley. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Manley. On your Amendment."

"Everybody's talking to me at once here. Sorry. Can you give me a minute, please? Sorry. Speaker, can I take that out of the record for now? Thank you."

"Out of the Record, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 5497, Mr. Martwick. Please read the Bill." 10000120.docx 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Mr. Martwick took this Bill over for Representative Lang. It was a wonderful Bill. Why don't you go ahead with the Amendment, Sir, if you know what it is?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Amendment 1 is a page and line Amendment that curtails the circumstances under which credit unions may disclose their member records to law enforcement."

"Those in favor of the Amendment will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4707, Representative Scherer. Out of the record. House Bill 4129, Representative Stuart. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2717, Mr. Welch. Mr. Welch. Out of the record. House Bill 4969, Representative Wallace. Please read the Bill."

"Bill will be held on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 4964, Representative Wallace. Please read the Bill."

"Please hold that Bill on the Order of Second Reading. Returning to Representative Manley on House Bill 5784. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Manley."

"Thank you, Speaker. House Floor Amendment #1 is a page and line Amendment that adds the requirement that the quarterly reports, required by the Department of Veterans' Affairs, be delivered electronically and that these reports also be available electronically at the request of any Member of the General Assembly."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Moving to some Third Reading now, Members. House Bill 4688, Representative Kelly Burke. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Burke." Burke, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 4688 is an agreed Bill with the Department of Financial and Professional Regulations and the nursing home administrators. We extended the sunset on their licensing Act last year. And then they spent some time coming up with some changes that the department and the administrators wanted for the Bill. So this reflects an agreement of those two parties. I know of no opposition and I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Leader Currie. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 104 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5257, Representative Bellock. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Bellock."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 104 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4568, Mr. Butler. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Butler."

"Mr. Hays."

"Sponsor yields." 10000120.docx 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Burke. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 102 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4954, Mr. Cavaletto. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Cavaletto."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Flowers. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 104 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby 10000120.docx 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 declared passed. House Bill 5795, Representative Chapa LaVia. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"What it does is it puts in guidelines, as far as truancy and percentage and how it equates. It's an agreed Bill as far as all these… the stakeholders. I'll take any questions."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 103 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4339, Mr. Connor. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Connor."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 4339 basically indicates that when a defendant in a child sex abuse case chooses to go pro se, he does not have the right to directly cross-examine the victim in the case. So it puts in place that a judge can assign another counsel to read the questions or the judge can read the questions to the child victim, directly himself. The only opposition comes from the Cook County Public Defender's Office, which is a constitutional argument. This is not a settled area of law. It is somewhat 10000120.docx 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 gray; however, there is no current Constitutional prohibition against this. So I'd ask for an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"Correct. So basically it indicates that they have the right to be present, in terms of the… it's a Confrontation Clause argument…"

"…and a Sixth Amendment argument. But basically, the Confrontation Clause argument has basically put more weight on the defendant being physically in the room with the witness, than with the defendant's ability to personally cross-examine the witness. And that's basically the way the case law has gone. The Cook County Public Defender's Office takes a different view. To me this is basically letting the judge run his own courtroom and letting him determine how a victim can be cross-examined, particularly a child victim. And the judge has to make a specific finding that the direct examination of the child victim by the defendant would be, basically, traumatic for the child victim." 10000120.docx 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"They will have to be physically present in the room. Unfortunately, our… the closed circuit statute in Illinois that permits child victims to testify over closed circuit specifically exempts pro se defendants. So this legislation is an attempt to close that loophole and make sure that defendants cannot retraumatize a child victim by the opportunity to cross-examine them directly in court."

"Thank you."

"Representative Ammons."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Just a question of… I believe there's probably some constitutional lawyers in this room. If the… the person is being cross-examined by the prosecution, would that exempt the prosecution from also cross-examining the child in the court proceeding?"

"So, no. The… what the court would have the option of doing is they would get basically the list of questions from the defendant and then either the judge would read those questions to the child victim or the defense… or a defense attorney, appointed by the judge for this particular purpose, would read those questions and conduct the cross- examination."

"Would that be in the open court proceeding?" 10000120.docx 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Correct."

"So the defense could question the child in the case?"

"Correct."

"But the accused who's representing himself pro se could not respond with questions? Can they respond to the judge with questions?"

"They can add questions. Yes, absolutely. They can keep providing questions and speak to their own… to the standby counsel during the course of the proceedings. They just can't address the child directly."

"So in this particular case, the prosecution or defense would not be addressing the child directly?"

"Correct."

"So, let me just make sure I'm clear on that. I'm reading it differently on the screen."

"Okay."

"In this particular kind of case, the prosecution nor the defense could cross-examine the child directly?"

"No. The defense would be examining the child, but not… in other words, the defendant cannot talk directly to the child."

"Okay."

"He would have to submit his questions, either to the judge, or to a standby counsel."

"So they could be submitted, they just cannot be done in the open process, directly?"

"He… he can't do it himself. If he molested…"

"Or she."

"…or she, excuse me, yes. Yes, basically." 10000120.docx 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Thank you very much."

"Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Fine, Wallace. Please take the record. There are 104 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3909, Representative Conroy. Out of the record. House Bill 4536, Mr. Crespo. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Crespo."

"Thank you, Speaker. House Bill 4536 is a request from one of my villages, Hanover Park, asking for a TIF extension from 2024 to 2036. I should add that all the taxing bodies have sent in letters to support of the extension."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 103 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5447, Leader Currie. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie. Leader Currie." 10000120.docx 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. This is the first revisory Bill of 2018 and I would like to say that I would be happy to answer all your questions, in reality I wouldn't. So I hope that you won't have any and I hope that you'll vote 'yes'."

"Those in favor of the Lady's honest plea will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 103 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4892, Mr. Davis. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Davis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members of the House, this is an effort of the Health Facilities and Services Review Board with regard to some specific changes to their Act. The Bill makes two substantive changes: one that deletes the requirement that at least one board member must attend a public hearing. And in part, the reason for that is because with scheduling of the board members so that they are doing what they're supposed to do, sometimes it's difficult to get board members to the meetings. So, there are other ways in which the public can engage… engage the board through written comments and they can also speak at the… at the hearings or the public meetings. And then, they can also then come to the actual board meetings and then address the entire board that attends the meetings. This also then deletes the requirement 10000120.docx 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 that staff must post a monthly report on the status of the application of the recommendations regarding the board rules. The rules requires a month… the current rules require a monthly report. What they are doing now, because of the advances in technology, is that the reports are actually now in real time. So they're actually showing up in real time versus the idea of waiting to then just post it on a monthly basis. And then there a number of technical clean-up changes as well with regard to their Act. And I'll be more than happy to answer any questions."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"Correct."

"Could you repeat the question?"

"Well, that… that's currently… I think that process is currently there. I don't think we're making any… I don't believe we're making any particular changes to that, but that's already a part of the Act. So that what a… a hospital, if they are going to be fined, what they can do instead of paying that fine to the board, then they can donate those dollars to a community-based organization working in that area. They can also help to provide services or any other items that they deem necessary. So the board can make those decisions currently in lieu of asking the hospital to pay a fine that they can then say, pay those dollars in ways such as that I just described."

"Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Halpin. Please take the record. There are 104 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5210, Mr. Demmer. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Demmer."

"Representative Mayfield."

"What are the status of the notes on this Bill?"

"Mr. Clerk."

"My understanding, Representative, is that your note request came after the Bill had already been moved to Third Reading. Representative Wallace is recognized."

"Yes. I would also like better clarification on the process of notes. I mean, I read the Rules book, but I'm just still interested especially since we just passed over one of my Bills that has a state mandate note when there's no state mandate involved in that Bill at all."

"Representative, notes have to be filed be… note requests need to be filed before the Bill moves to Third Reading."

"And so, then these are just ruled inapplicable…"

"They're…"

"…automatically?"

"…just… they're moot once the Bill…"

"They're moot."

"…moves to Third Reading."

"Thank you very much."

"Thank you. Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 100 voting 'yes', 1 voting 10000120.docx 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 'no', 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2376, Representative Flowers. Out of the record. Sorry, Mr. Clerk? Representative, do you have an Amendment? I'm told you have an Amendment. Do you wish to move the Bill back to Second and do your Amendment? Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill. Move the Bill back to Second and read the Bill."

"Representative Flowers."

"Amendment #5 makes technical changes…"

"Those in favor…"

"…in regards to the date."

"…of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"This Bill will be held on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 4205, Mr. Ford. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I move for the passage of 4205. It simply requires all public schools, including Chicago Public Schools, to connect at-risk students to either community-based or in school academic support. I move for the passage of 4205." 10000120.docx 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"I have no idea. My analysis lists nothing but proponents and only one opponent. I think that your analysis may be old. I did an Amendment and that should've removed opposition that you're concerned about."

"I think that we have to make sure that we're clear on the words in the Bill and it says 'connect' not provide. So they're not to provide it, but they're to connect them to the 10000120.docx 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 resources necessary to provide them the necessary support in the areas where they're struggling. So no new revenue for the school, just a real keen approach to taking care of at-risk students when we know that they're struggling. And so, the at-risk is listed as has failed two or more classes in the immediate school semester, has experienced a decline in his or her grade point average of more than two points on a 4.0 scale, chronically truant, has been suspended more than three times from school either in school or out of school, is homeless or at risk of becoming homeless, and a few others. So the key is when we know that students are at risk, we should do everything that we can to connect them to services in the school or in the community."

"And I… you know…"

"Well, then they…"

"Well, if they don't have it, then they can't provide it. But if they have it and if they want to do what's in the best interest of the child then they will provide them with the information. I mean, there are report card pickups where you have children that come for parent-teacher conference and you may have students that have chronic truancy, they may have failing grades. And we're saying at that point or at any point, the teacher or the school can say, your child is struggling in reading, math, or some other areas of life and we want to encourage you and connect your child to programs that we have at the school or a community-based organization that we have a relationship with."

"So, they… they're already tracking it. I think that what's unfair about this, Representative, is that you're making this into a complex issue when it's really simple and it's about helping students that we know are at-risk. I don't understand why the long debate over this issue of a at-risk student when we know they need help."

"No."

"No, no." 10000120.docx 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"In fact, you know what…"

"…teachers are mandated anyway to do what's at… in the best interest of the child. They are mandated reporters."

"I mean, the school could… they may know, but once again, that's just one of the items that if the school knew about it then that's more information that the school could use to help connect the child to support."

"Mr. Demmer." 10000120.docx 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Thank you, Sir. Mr. Pritchard."

"Sponsor yields."

"Well, I just know of one and that's the School Manage Alliance that's against the Bill. As I said, the opposition for the most part was reduced when the Amendment #1 was adopted."

"It removed the opposition that you may be…"

"…concerned about."

"Amendment #1… House Committee Amendment #1 clarified the mechanics of the Bill. That's it."

"Exactly."

"That's right."

"Well, I know that they slipped to the underlying Bill…”

“…but not into the Amendment, according to my analysis."

"It's my understanding that they slipped to the underlying Bill, 4205, and I don't have an opposition to House Committee Amendment #1."

"They… you know what, I think that it's simple. I don't know what more to say about this Bill in debate, but I'm asking that schools connect at-risk students to support in the school or from the community. I mean, that's it."

"That's…"

"It's… may include, but it is not limited to…"

"…anything."

“Mr. Hays. 10000120.docx 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Representative Willis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield, please?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, are you mandating that any school set up a new program that they don't already have?"

"No."

"Are you mandating that these students attend the advice that the counselor or teacher may give to the parent?"

"No." 10000120.docx 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Okay. So this is not a mandate. All you're saying is, we want to make sure that the students and their families are aware of programs that could assist them with a struggle that they're already having in the school?"

"Yes."

"I don't understand… to the Bill. I do not understand the opposition from the other side of the aisle. This is the least mandate, mandate… if you want to call it a mandate even… that I've ever seen. All we're doing is, we're advising families of resources that are already set up in the community to help our students that are struggling. We're not making… we're not saying you have to establish a program to help the student. We're saying, you are the professionals in the community, you know what's available out there, please share that information so that my students can get the help they need. We're not even saying that you have to make sure the student attends these programs. We're saying, we wanted to give you the best information possible. I urge everybody to vote for this. It is a good sense piece of legislation. Thank you, Representative, for bringing it forward."

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"My city was used in debate. Sorry, Chad. Hey, so listen. To the speaker. Will the speaker yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"So, what is your intent on this Bill, Representative Ford?"

"My intent is to make sure that parents and schools are connected and working in a partnership for the best interests of the child, the student." 10000120.docx 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Okay. And in all of our offices and I don't know about yours, Representative Ford, when a constituent calls me and asks me for services, I often would just give them a list of the services I put together for them and regardless of if it's education, if it's employment, et cetera. Do you do that in your office?"

"I do."

"Okay. So, what we're saying is in this, forgive me if I'm wrong, is if a student falls into this category that we're just providing the family with a list of services that they can go get. It's just a piece of paper or giving them a phone number, so they can contact that entity to help their child with the possibility of being educated and a taxpaying citizen one day."

"Exactly."

"All right. So, you know, this is very simple. I hope that we have some of your support on the other side of the aisle. There's no malice here. We're just trying to get the services to the kid. We're not saying that the school district has to go out of their way, but each of us have a list of resources that we can give these families. And sometimes they don't have that resource, okay. So, it’s… whether a piece of paper or just giving them that information for the counselor, or what have you, is connecting the services to the child. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Hammond."

"Sponsor yields." 10000120.docx 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"It's not a mandate for a new program."

"It's a requirement."

"Representative Bellock."

"Sponsor yields."

"All you have to do is connect people to information. Connect them to programs and resources that are available already."

"That's it."

"Those would be services that are already in the school. I mean, if a school does not have programs to support at-risk students then that is a problem, and they would have to start programs to support at-risk students."

"Well, if they don't have the programs at the school, it's good for the school to connect them to outside programs. Programs that the state provide funding for… or… or not…"

"…like Catholic charities…"

"…and other programs."

"Mr. Reick."

"Mr. Hays." 10000120.docx 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Mr. Davis."

"Thank… thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think I'll just speak to the Bill. So one of the previous speakers… you know, you're… we're making this statement about mandates and what that means. Now, as a Representative, when people call my office, I connect them with services all the time. Now if you don't do that then shame on your offices because that's what our constituents call… when they call, they're looking for something. And so, to turn the word ‘connect’, in this case, into a mandate, he's simply saying that, yeah, their job is to say, here are some services. Here are some opportunities for the young people that are at-risk. So I don't understand why, in this context, connect is all of a sudden a mandate, when presumably, connect is what we're supposed to do in our offices which means we provide our constituents with information and then they can choose whether to take advantage of the information, to go visit the services, or whatever the case may be. So, I don't know if it's a matter of the fact 10000120.docx 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 that it's at-risk kids and who these young people are in our communities and whether we don't care about them. I would like to think we care about at-risk kids. And I don't understand why when we're saying that trying to help at-risk kids should be something that our schools are supposed to be able to do that it is all of a sudden a problem for us. Please let's not turn this into one of those kinds of debates. Connecting children with services should be something that we want our schools to do, because again, if they're not in school then they're out roaming the streets. But I can guarantee you we'll want more money for police to take care of them when they're out roaming our streets. So instead of going in that direction, let's support the Gentleman's Bill to make sure that in school, where the children should be, where they belong, and if they need help that they're getting that help inside their respective schools. Thank you."

"Representative McCombie."

"Sponsor yields."

"Reached out to them?"

"I haven’t reached out to them. I'm waiting for advice. Nobody's called me to offer any Amendment." 10000120.docx 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"No. It's ready right now because they have no advice. That's why they haven’t reached out to me."

"I know."

"Representative, you debated the Bill so you cannot make that Motion. Mr. Andersson is recognized."

"Sponsor yields."

"School Management Alliance."

"I have no witness slips stating any opposition except the School Management Alliance."

"Before the Amendment."

"Well, you know, just like you and everyone over there, you're going by your analysis, I'm going by my analysis."

"That's right."

"They should."

"Mr. Ford to close."

"This is kind of confusing to me because it's a simple Bill trying to help at-risk students. We know that many times quiet students are at-risk students and we learn that they become dangerous students. And my goal here is to make sure that 10000120.docx 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 parents, schools, and students all connect so that when a student needs help, we can provide them the help. It's not requiring the public schools to create a new program. It's simply asking them to have a good relationship with the community, with the parent and the student, and provide the services to make the kid a successful person in life. So I move for the passage of House Bill 4205."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 54 voting 'yes', 44 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And the Gentleman moves for Postponed Consideration. House… Excuse me. The Chair recognizes Mr. Butler on a point of personal privilege."

"Mr. Davis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just wanted to follow up Representative Butler's comments, appreciate that. To encourage, even if you're not a bowler and just want to come out and support the effort, please feel free to do so. Maybe you might even have a little… some dollars left in your campaign account. You can feel free to make a donation to our… to our caucus and to the efforts that Representative Butler talked about. And if you are a bowler, like some of us are… well, maybe not me, but some of you are… maybe you'll have the opportunity to come out and throw a few balls down the lane, see how many gutter balls you can hit, you know. And that's okay; it's all in fun. Nobody will talk about you, at least not to your face, anyway. But please come out and join our effort next week if you can. Some of us are prepared even though there have been probably some friendly wagers, you know, put out there about whose team is going to win the bowling and/or the shirt contest part of it. I know Wayne has been practicing hard. What'd you tell me, what, 680 pins, you know, all in one game. How can you hit 680 pins in one game? Wow, that's fantastic. So, you know, he's going to have his team out there. Hopefully you'll join us next week. Thank you very much, Representative Butler, for you efforts."

"House Bill 4583, Mr. Halbrook. Please read the Bill." 10000120.docx 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Mr. Halbrook."

"Mr. Pritchard."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Davis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, so your Bill is about making sure that notices are posted for special meetings, correct?"

"On… the notices are just so… it's just requiring that notices be posted on a website?"

"So… so just, maybe you can just indulge me for a moment. I don't profess to be an expert about the Open Meetings Act, but what happens… what is supposed to happen when a community violates posting notices for any of their meetings, particularly special meeting?"

"What happens if a community violates posting for their meetings?" 10000120.docx 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"No… no, I'm trying to seek some information from you. So, can you tell me what happens if they fail to post meetings appropriately?"

"Thank you very much, Representative."

"Mr. Andersson."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Mayfield."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Thank you. Representative, I like your Bill. I think this is a great Bill. It's a great transparency Bill. Having served on the school board where we've throw… have meetings, Harry Carry and the public were not aware of a lot of those meetings. And we actually had a watchdog group that really monitored this because the meetings would not be posted anywhere visible. They would post them at 3:00 right outside on the door of the school administration building for a meeting for that same evening at 5. And that was not fair to the parents who were really wanting to know what was going on operationally and where their tax dollars are going. There's a lot of decisions that are made. I think this is a great Bill. I do have a question regarding the emergency meeting. Is it just the minutes from the emergency meeting that get posted, or does that also qualify for the 48-hour posting, simply because it's an emergency? I get the special meeting, absolutely, 100 percent."

"My question is about the emergency."

"Okay."

"Okay. 'Cause our analysis just says that they have to post the minutes from the emergency meeting. So if that's something you can just check, maybe work with your Senate Sponsor, I will definitely be supporting this Bill. And anyone that is for transparency should support this Bill as well. Thank you."

"Mr. Breen."

"Representative Williams."

"Thank you. To the Bill. I'd like to reiterate what Representative Andersson mentioned about the deletion of the 10000120.docx 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 provision about invalidating the contents of the meeting. I support, fully, efforts to put further teeth in the OMA and FOIA Acts. I'd love to work on further beefing those up. But in this case, I have an example that happened just last week, or two weeks ago, regarding a unit of local government which was mandated to hold a certain meeting every year and the website was down. So, the default was to put up a notice at… on their Facebook page, to put up the required notices at the place of meeting, et cetera, but sometimes it simply cannot be helped. And the problem you run into is our statutes often mandate certain meetings. Townships, for example, have to host a town meeting the second Tuesday in April. Every township is required to do that. If there's a problem and there's no way to put that on the website, it's unclear how the township would possibly comply. So I have to agree with Representative Andersson. We all agree about accessibility and providing information, but this is just like a practical issue, which I have seen happen as recently as two weeks ago. So, if there's any way to just address that component, I think it would be a much better piece of legislation and much more workable for units of local government."

"Mr. Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, could you just tell me exactly what House Bill 4583 does?"

"My analysis says that there is a requirement of all public… it is… what does requirement mean?"

"Could that be a mandate?"

"Do you…"

"…support mandates?"

"That's very good to have…"

"…on record that you're…"

"I'm very happy to know that you support mandates when it's most appropriate for you."

"And, in the last case, I'm… this is not personal. I just need to know how we're going to do business around here. We just tried to pass a Bill to connect students to services, it required it. And my picture of your vote said that you didn't want kids to be connected to… because it was mandate. But I'm going to tell you, I was going to vote for your mandate because sometimes mandates are good. And I think that we should learn from one another. The Bill will come back and you'll have another opportunity to support a good requirement. Can I get your commitment?"

"Thank you. I urge everyone to consider looking at his Bill to vote for his mandate." 10000120.docx 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Mr. Unes."

"Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 5167, Representative Hammond. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Hammond."

"Representative Ives, your light is on. Were you planning to speak on this Bill? Representative Ives, were you speaking on this Bill? The Lady does not wish to speak. Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 100 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Mr. Davidsmeyer on a point of personal privilege."

"Welcome to the House chamber. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. House Bill 4096, Mr. Harris. Out of the record. House Bill 4309, Representative Jimenez. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Jimenez."

"Representative Turner in the Chair. Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 4309 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all 10000120.docx 90  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 102 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. House Bill 4309, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Davidsmeyer, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Please proceed, Sir."

"Thank you and welcome to your Capitol. House Bill 5109, Leader Lang. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Leader Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, this Bill creates the community health care professional loan repayment program. We all know that we have trouble finding health care professionals, particularly in the area of mental health. This would create a loan repayment and grant program to help encourage people to get into this area. I know of no opposition and ask your support." 10000120.docx 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Chair recognizes Representative Breen."

"Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

"That is absolutely correct, Sir."

"As I recall, Sir, we worked with ISAC and the Amendment that's on the Bill, Amendment 2, was the Amendment we worked out with ISAC. I'm not certain they're opposed to the Bill."

"I think we do. I don't think I have that information in front of me, but in the past, I know we've had programs to try to encourage doctors, to try to encourage teachers on other… in parts of the state that have had difficulty attracting teachers. And so, as you know, we have definitely a shortage of health care professionals, particularly in the area of mental health. The goal here is to encourage them to 10000120.docx 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 take up these classes in the university and to fan around the state and help us create access to appropriate health care."

"The Bill specifies different categories. The grants could be up to 35 thousand a year for a psychiatrist, 15 thousand a year for an advanced practice registered nurse, 12 thousand for a psychologist, 6500 for a licensed clinical social worker, 2500 for a substance abuse professional. And this also requires that they commit to and work for at least 12 consecutive months in a community mental health center in an underserved, a rural, federally-designated mental health professional shortage area in Illinois. And so we've put the requirements on these folks and they do have to pay back the funds if they don't fulfill their responsibilities under these grant agreements."

"I couldn't have said it better myself, Sir."

"Leader Lang to close."

"Please vote 'aye'." 10000120.docx 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 5109 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 101 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. House Bill 5109, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk… Representative Davidsmeyer, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"This is your last one."

"Congratulations, Representative. Thank you. On the Order of Second Reading, we have House Bill 5160 offered by Leader Lang. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Leader Lang."

"Thank you… thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a technical agreed Amendment."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 5160. All in favor say 'aye'; all 10000120.docx 94  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4745, Representative McAuliffe. Out of the record. House Bill… Excuse me, I'm sorry. He's here. House Bill 4745. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

“Representative McAuliffe.”

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 4745 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 102 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. House Bill 4745, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4922, Representative Mah. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill. Mr. Clerk, can you please move House Bill 4922 back to the Order of Second Reading and read the Bill?"

"Representative Mah on Floor Amendment #1."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Floor Amendment 1 to House Bill 4922 simply makes some technical changes to the language and clarifies that we are referring to rebate cards in this Bill. And it also exempts card replacement fees from the ban on post-issuance fees on rebate cards."

"Representative Breen for a question on Floor Amendment #1."

"Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 4922. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5502, Representative McCombie. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative McCombie."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 5502 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please 10000120.docx 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 take the record. On a count of 99 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. House Bill 5502, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5596, Representative Moeller. Out of the record. House Bill 5745, Representative Mussman. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Mussman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 5745 simply creates parity between the Jury Commission Act and the Jury Act. Under one, a breastfeeding mother is excused from jury duty upon request. For the other, it's been common practice, but it's been somewhat erratically applied. And this is actually a request from a member of our own Legislative Research Bureau. So, we would appreciate the support of just getting this cleaned up."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 5745 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 102 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. House Bill 5745, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1671, Representative Sente. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Sente." 10000120.docx 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Thank you. This is a simple police dog Bill that came to me from my local chief of police. If a department gets a K-9 officer added to their department, they need to take care of that dog. That would include an annual medical exam, a rabies shot, and purchase of a heat sensoring device. It’s a bipartisan Bill. No one's against it. And I'm looking for a 'yes' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, "Shall House Bill 1671 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 102 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting present. House Bill 1671, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Wheeler, for what reason do you seek recognition?" Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Please excuse Representative Jesiel for the rest of today."

"Thank you, Representative. House Bill 5814, Representative McSweeney. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

“Representative McSweeney.”

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 5814 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 101 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. House Bill 5814, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5597, Representative Stratton. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

“Representative Stratton.

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Currently in Illinois, law enforcement officers that are charged with sexual assault can assert an affirmative defense of consent when the sexual conduct involves a person in custody. House Bill 5597 eliminates the option of employees of law enforcement agencies being able to claim such a defense and it provides that if charged with sexual assault, he or she cannot assert a defense that the act is consensual. There is no opposition to this Bill. We have broad-based support including the Illinois Chiefs of Police Association as well as the Illinois Sheriffs’ Association. We have bipartisan support with over 10000120.docx 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 80 Sponsors to the Bill. And I respectfully request an 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, "Shall House Bill 5597 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 100 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. House Bill 5597, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4268, Representative Thapedi. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Thapedi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 4268 is an initiative of the Illinois State Bar Association. It amends the Home Repair and Remodeling Act by requiring disclosure of the amount to be paid for a job, the identities of the contractors and the subcontractors, the price to be paid to those contractors and subcontractors as well as providing some insight into the Mechanics Lien Act. The Bill also makes clear that these disclosures are informational in nature. There is no opposition to the Bill as the language was fully negotiated by the Illinois State Bar Association, the lenders, and the home builders. I'm available to answer any and all questions."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 4268 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all 10000120.docx 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 98 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. House Bill 4268, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5636, Representative Meier. Mr. Clerk, please call the Bill."

"Representative Meier."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 5636 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 101 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. House Bill 5636, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5021, Representative Pritchard. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill.”

"Representative Pritchard."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 5021 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 101 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. House Bill 5021, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative McCombie, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"The Journal will reflect your request. Thank you, Representative. House Bill 4944, Representative Sauer. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Sauer."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 4944 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 84 voting 'yes', 14 voting 10000120.docx 102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 'no', 0 voting 'present'. House Bill 4944, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5692, Representative Walsh. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Walsh."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 5692 is an initiative of the Illinois Trappers Association. The Bill would eliminate the statewide limit on river otters, which is currently five, and establish them with the rest of the trapping that the DNR establishes area-specific limits by administrative rule based on the strength of the certain specie's population in any given area. And happy to answer any questions. Ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 5692 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members, please record yourself. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 72 voting 'yes', 25 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. House Bill 5692, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4232, Representative Severin. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Severin."

"On that, Leader Currie is recognized."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. I rise in strenuous opposition to the Bill. In 2018, we ought to be in the world of the digital activity, but the reality is that a lot of our local governments haven't quite got there yet. The Citizens' Advocacy Center did a survey of some randomly selected 756 public bodies, only 49 percent of them actually had a website. Now we have requirements about posting notices of various kinds of things on websites today, and yet most of our municipal local governments, not most of them, but many 10000120.docx 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 of them are not complying with current law. So I think that if we really care about people knowing what is happening, if we want them to be sure they understand what the statement of affairs is on an annual basis, I think it would be a mistake to take that out of publication until we get better compliance from school districts, from townships, from county governments across the board. So I appreciate the Gentleman's good intentions, but I don't think this is the right time for us to reverse course and say that the web will work."

"Representative McSweeney is recognized."

"Representative Breen is recognized."

"Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

"Representative Ford is recognized."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Sponsor, so I'm a little confused. And it appears that you might be a little confused too because you want to remove mandates, then you want to add mandates. So are you for mandates or against mandates?"

"You're against unfunded mandates?"

"So, it is confusing, isn't it?"

"I mean, mandates are confusing to you guys. Because I clearly had a Bill that just wanted to connect people, just like you're doing, and it didn't cost anything extra. So what I'm saying is, there must be some confusion about mandates. And your Bill right here speaks to confusion. Because you say you want to remove mandates and then in the same Bill, you add a mandate. Why didn’t you just remove the mandate? Then you would be consistent to your beliefs that we need to get rid of mandates. I urge a 'no' vote until the Republicans decide where they stand on mandates."

"Chair recognizes Representative Hays."

"Representative Ammons is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I truly appreciate the lively debate on this particular topic, but I just want to bring us back to the nuts and bolts of my support for this 10000120.docx 108  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 Bill. This Bill, not only does it save money for the school districts, it actually prevents them from having to run an actual ad of which that local body has to pay for. So it's a savings. And two, we've passed several Bills out of this chamber in the last few days that allow for the posting of critical information to be put on a website as opposed to running in a particular publication. I think this is a good Bill because most people actually get… if you look at the survey, most people have responded in this country that they get most of their news online. Most of what they get is online. And so this would be consistent with how people are utilizing technology today to get their critical information. School districts throughout our state have access to internet and websites. And so this would be a good move for those districts to not have to spend a few dollars that they could put into that after-school program and they connect at-risk youth if they were not putting it in an advertisement in the local newspaper. And so, I stand and rise in support of this legislation and encourage an 'aye' vote in support of the 21st century technology called the internet that you can get information on postings for your schools."

"Representative Keith Wheeler is recognized." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor indicates that he will yield." Wheeler, K.: "Representative, I'm looking at the language in the Bill. And I know you've referenced a couple times that the… the objective is to put this online…"

"Representative Sauer is recognized.”

"Representative Hurley is recognized."

"I yield my time to Representative Ford."

"Representative Ford is recognized."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

"So I've been advised over here by some Democrats that your Bill could actually cost school districts more money. Could you tell me about the digital divide in your community and if every family has a computer, a printer, and have the ability to print out the information that will now be placed on the website?"

"Uh oh. So libraries is going… is going to be impacted? They got to pay. All right. Go ahead."

"Impact on libraries. All right, go ahead."

"They don't." 10000120.docx 112  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Oh."

"From the superintendent?"

"And who would… who's going to pay for that? If they call the superintendent's office to request a copy, that's an impact that will cost the school district more money."

"I'm not trying, I'm just speaking the truth."

"Can we agree that that could cost the school districts more?"

"All right."

"That's it." 10000120.docx 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Representative…"

"…I want to tell you that you're absolutely right."

"And I don’t have an ax to grind or anything. I just think that this is a teachable moment and we can't be close-minded."

"And… and remember…"

"…we have to…"

"…and we… and we have to read the Bills as they are written."

"And we really have to make sure that we understand what's going to impact a school district and what's not. There was a Bill earlier that failed because people failed to read it properly. It's much like… well, it's not even like yours. Yours has a impact. The previous Bill had no impact, none. So I hope that you would join me after reading the Bill and ask me to call the Bill back because you're willing to vote for it because it doesn’t have an impact."

"Chair recognizes Representative Williams."

"To the Bill. I'm noticing today that we're considering numerous pieces of legislation that pertain to the utilization of the internet for all sorts of things. The Bill we're discussing right now, the prior Bill about OMA providing more and more information on websites, and I think that's great. It's a cost-saving measure and something we can all support. Of course it's only workable if we have a free and open internet accessible to all. Keep in mind that as of April 23, that all can change. Thank you."

"Chair recognizes Representative Butler."

"Chair recognizes Representative Ives."

"Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

"Chair recognizes Leader Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I find myself agreeing with the previous speaker."

"That's a first."

"I don't know how that happened. I think that was well said. And there are many school districts that simply aren't complying with today's law. There are many school districts that don't have complete websites. There are many school districts that don't post everything they're supposed to post. And there are many that are not even sophisticated enough to handle their websites properly. And while it's true that the Gentleman from Springfield is correct when he says that really no one reads these things in the newspaper, transparency still requires that we do that. So I oppose the Bill. And Mr. Speaker, should this reach the requisite number, I would request a verification."

"Representative Severin to close."

"Members, a verification has been requested by Leader Lang, so please be at your seat to vote your button. The question is, 'Shall House Bill 4232 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 29 voting 'yes', 65 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present'… Leader Lang, do you wish to proceed with your Motion? He withdraws his Motion. And on the…"

"Unlike some around here, who are not here today, who do verifications unnecessarily, I withdraw mine."

"Thank you, Leader. On a count of 29 voting 'yes', 65 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present'. House Bill 4232, having failed to receive the Constitutional Majority, does not pass. It’s failed. Representative Hurley, for what reason do you seek recognition?" 10000120.docx 119  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Mr. Speaker, could the record reflect that I intended to vote ‘no’ on House Bill 5692?"

"The record will reflect your request. House Bill 5267, Representative Williams. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Williams."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill is pretty simple. It makes very technical changes to what we know as the Crime Victims Compensation Act. This is an initiative of the Attorney General's Office which administers that Act. First, it helps to expedite crime victims' date of claims by requiring agencies to cooperate with the office of the AG. We've worked with law enforcement to get agreement on this piece. Second, it helps address fraud issues by clarifying that the counselors who provide services, which can be reimbursed under the Act, meet certain basic requirements and don't overcharge the state. And finally, it adds a few new crimes to the list of crimes that can be compensated and that includes revenge porn and posting of graphic or pornographic information. That's it, all agreed, and I'm happy to answer any questions."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 5267 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 94 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting present. House Bill 5267, having received the 10000120.docx 120  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Leader Currie, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"To add to the list of excused House Democrats today. Please add Representative Moeller."

Speaker Turner: "Thank you, Representative. Representative Demmer, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Representative. House Bill 4879, Representative Spain. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Spain."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 4879 pass? All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 95 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. House Bill 4879, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1042, Representative Stuart. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." 10000120.docx 121  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018

"Representative Stuart."

"Thank you. What… what this Bill will do will require that we put in place places for nursing mothers to have access for lactation, whether they need to feed or to pump: one location here in the Capitol Building, one location in the Stratton, and one location in the Howlett Building."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 1042 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 91 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no', 0 voting present. House Bill 1042, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4848, Representative Swanson. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

“Representative Swanson.”

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 4848 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 10000120.docx 122  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 120th Legislative Day 4/20/2018 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 97 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. House Bill 4848, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Olsen, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

Speaker Turner: "The Journal will reflect your request, Representative. House Bill 2354, Representative Willis. Out of the record. Members, an announcement. Monday, at 3 p.m. is the deadline for filing Amendments. Monday, 3 p.m. is the deadline for filing Amendments. And now, allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk, Leader Currie moves that the House adjourn until Monday, April 23, 2018 at 3 p.m.; Monday, April 23, 2018 at 3 p.m. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the House is adjourned."