Illinois House Floor Debate — April 25, 2018

"The House will be in order. We shall be led in prayer today by Lee Crawford, the pastor of the Cathedral of Praise Christian Center in Springfield. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting laptops, turn off cell phones, and rise for the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance. Pastor Crawford."

"Be led in the Pledge by Mr. Yingling."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record reflect that Representatives Gabel and Hernandez are excused today."

"Mr. Breen."

"Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 113 Members present and we do have a quorum. Mr. Breen is recognized."

"Thank you, Sir. Mr. Clerk, House Joint Resolution 105. Mr. Long is recognized."

"We'll take a moment of silence. Mr. Long moves for the adoption of the Resolution. Those in favor will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the Resolution is adopted. We thank the family for joining us today. Mr. Harris is recognized." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A point of personal privilege, if I may?"

"Proceed, Sir." Harris, D.: "Thank you very much. Very briefly, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I would like to put into the record today that a #1 for Illinois, as you're looking for something positive about Illinois. Illinois ranks first in the nation, #1 in the nation with $180 billion in processed food sales. Now most of those companies are located in the Chicago area, which contains one of the largest concentrations of food- 10000123.docx 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 related businesses in the world. Illinois, #1 in processed foods in the United States. Thank you."

"Thank you, Sir. We appreciate it. Ladies and Gentlemen, we’re going to begin with Third Reading Bills on the priority list. The first one is House Bill 5104, Representative Ammons. Please read the Bill. Apparently there is a Floor Amendment, Representative. Do you wish the Bill to be returned to Second Reading for an Amendment? Mr. Clerk, move the Bill to Second Reading and please read the Bill."

"Representative Ammons."

"Okay. Give me one second. I'm sorry. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Floor Amendment #2 is simply a technical cleanup. Something was removed for the Department of Juvenile Justice in the Bill that we did not want removed when it was… the House Floor Amendment 1 was drafted. So we want to just restore it and restore the language."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5599, Representative Conyears-Ervin. Representative Conyears-Ervin. Out of the record. House Bill 4888, Mr. Bennett. Mr. Bennett. Out of the record. House Bill 5054, Mr. Breen. Please read the Bill." 10000123.docx 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Mr. Breen."

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Sponsor yield, Speaker?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Breen, so do the Amendments make the opposition disappear?"

"Okay. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record 10000123.docx 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 yourselves, Members. Members, please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 105 voting 'yes', 3 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Representative Wehrli on a point of personal privilege."

"Happy birthday. House Bill 5770, Representative Conroy. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Conroy."

"Thank you, Speaker. House Bill 577 (sic-5770) addresses an issue in our schools. Currently we have, what I would consider, a crisis of mental health and the lack of help that our students are getting in our schools. I consider mental health to be the invisible disability. So all this Bill does is it requires schools to notify all parents that, if their child has a mental health diagnosis, they may be eligible for services through a 504 plan. And I'll take any questions."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"So, the concern was, initially the way the Bill was written, it said that they may be eligible for mental health services which we thought could be misleading. So we clarified it by saying that they may be eligible for support services if they have a mental health diagnosis. We just felt it was a cleaner language. So basically, it is a civil right and a mental health disability is covered under the ADA. So these are basically already in Federal Law, but our families don’t know about it. And I know you had been so very helpful with the PANDAS Bill that we passed last year. And that is a community of people that really need this support. So basically, this is just allowing our families to know that these resources and this type of support is there for their child, who is basically suffering from what I refer to as an invisible disability."

"Well, the interesting piece about that is that because it is a Federal Law, and it is a civil liberty, it's not any different than if you had an auditory processing disability or you had a speech issue or any of those types of things. The schools by Federal Law are required to… to provide those services, those supports, for that student."

"Yes. So our parents need to know that they have a right to these services. Currently families are not aware of that."

"Well, Representative, what I would say is that I think that this is a crisis that we are… we need to face in our state and in our country. And we need to put the supports there for these students, that I would say probably currently are not in existence."

"Representative Ives."

"Sponsor yields."

"It is not the school. So the diagnosis would come from a physician. And that would be… what this is doing is letting families know that if your student has a mental health diagnosis, they may be eligible for the support."

"It would be great if they did. Similar to other learning disabilities, but I don’t know that that’s currently being done. I think this is an issue that we're trying to address in terms of educating families that these types of supports are available for this disability."

"No. So the families are notified that if their student has a mental health diagnosis, you're letting the parents know they have the ability to ask for these services. And then it's treated the same way it would with any other disability. There’s no difference whether it's an auditory processing disability, whatever it might be, you sit down with your team and you figure out what the services are that are needed. If a parent wants to bring a physician into that meeting, it's their legal right to do that."

"Every… every family, yes, will be notified that they may be eligible if they have a mental health diagnosis."

"No. I have not designated how it's done. It simply requires that it is done."

"Mr. Carroll."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"I want to stand in support of this Bill. As a former special education teacher, and somebody who currently works with students that have challenges, I would like to say that this is a phenomenal Bill. That we’re having more clarification on what role a 504 plan will play with students. Sometimes we have a real challenge to actually understand that, so I applaud the Sponsor for putting forth such a great Bill that’s going to give us some clarity for what to do for people with mental health concerns. We like to talk about mental health a lot lately, and yet, we don’t seem to want to do something about it. This Bill offers us the opportunity to help at-risk students without having to have an IEP. So I want to thank the Sponsor for this great Bill. And hope she will put me on as a chief cosponsor. Thank you."

"Representative Wallace."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm just going to go directly to the Bill. I want to say I appreciate this piece of legislation. I know a young student who was not sure of what their rights would be after being diagnosed by their pediatrician with ADHD and… and I believe anxiety. The parents didn’t know that they had the opportunity to request some accommodations through the 501… or a 504 Section of our Education Code. So this is something that's very simple. It 10000123.docx 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 can be placed in a registration packet. It can be posted maybe in the nurse's office. It's just about informing the students and the parents that there is an opportunity based upon whatever their mental and behavioral health needs are to have an educational plan that will make those students successful. It's not something that will be cumbersome to the schools or to the school district. And I encourage an 'aye' vote. Thank you for bringing this forward."

"Representative Conroy to close."

"Thank you. I'd ask for a 'yes' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourself, Members. Representative Conroy, you want to vote for your Bill. Feigenholtz, Yingling. Please take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Costello is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege?"

"Proceed, Sir."

"I'd like the Body to help me recognize thirty-two 4-H members from across Illinois that are here with us today. If you guys would all stand up in the gallery. So they represent twenty-five different 4-H programs from across the state. There are nearly 200 thousand members in the State of Illinois. 4-H projects range from things such as animal science, aerospace, shooting sports, visual arts, nutrition, wellness, and environmental studies. These are the future 10000123.docx 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 leaders of our state. So we're very, very happy to have them here today. Thank you."

"Leader Durkin."

"Proceed, Sir."

"Welcome to all of you. Thank you very much. Mr. Sommer."

"Please proceed, Sir."

"Welcome. Thank you for joining us. Happy you're here. Mr. Demmer is recognized."

"You may proceed." 10000123.docx 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

Speaker Lang: "Thank you. Thanks for being with us today. Representative Fine is recognized. Is that your Page standing to your right… or to your left? Please proceed."

"You are so funny. No, it is my twin standing to my left. I would like to introduce today, there are two students from Northwestern University here both undergraduate and graduate students. They are in… their professional fields of interest and their interest include government and public service. And they are watching us today to find out how we work as a Legislature and what we do. So, if you could please say hello to Claire Bugos and Raymond Solórzano, who are standing up there to the right. Thank you for coming today."

Speaker Lang: "Glad you're here with us today. Thank you. Representative Moeller."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege?"

"Go right ahead."

"Thank you. I'm happy to welcome representatives from the Manufactured Home Owners Association of Illinois. If they could stand up. They’re in the gallery over near the Republican side of the chamber. They're here to talk to Legislators about issues effecting them. And Terry Nelson, their lobbyist and advocate, is here as well. So I just wanted to give them a warm Springfield welcome." 10000123.docx 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Welcome aboard. Thank you. Returning to the Calendar, House Bill 1471, Mr. Evans. Out of the record. How about 5598, Mr. Evans. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Evans."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and the great Members of this General Assembly. This is an initiative of the Farm Bureau. It's a clean-up initiative with regards to license plates. We’re not going to create a new license plate. We are just going to allow a registration card of a specific designation for specialty Ag vehicles to be exempt from some federal requirements and operate. I request your support."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"As a matter of fact I do. I knew you were going to ask that question. Down in Sauk Village, right at the end of my district. It goes right up the Cook/Will County line. I have a farm bureau… I see an actual farm there, yeah."

"Potentially, yeah. You've got… you’ve got to come over and visit the farm in my district."

"Thank you, Sir." 10000123.docx 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Mr. Costello."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And to the Bill. And even more so about its Sponsor. As the chair of Ag & Conservation, I can say that Marcus was on the Ag & Conservation Committee. He's really worked hard at trying to understand the diversity of the state and understanding that Ag is the #1 business of the State of Illinois, and that one in every four jobs in our state is in some way Ag-related. So Marcus, thank you for being involved and thank you for doing what you're doing to try and help the Farm Bureau and the people of the State of Illinois."

Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Arroyo, Carroll, Feigenholtz, Mayfield. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4368, Mr. Halbrook. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Halbrook."

"Those in favor vote of the Bill will 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. There are 109 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4724, Representative Phelps Finnie. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Phelps Finnie."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill is just a technical change for the… for fracturing tax exemption. It basically just shifts the responsibility from the first purchaser to the producer. Just a technical change. It does not change the amount of tax in any way that’s collected. Be happy to answer any questions."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Davis. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 100 voting 'yes', 11 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5752, Representative Phelps Finnie. Representative Phelps Finnie. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Phelps Finnie." 10000123.docx 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a Bill to establish an advisory council for broadband, to expand it throughout the state. As I've spoken in committee, we have even counties in southern Illinois that do not have any broadband. So, I have many cosponsors and no… no opponents to this Bill. I'd urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Thank you, Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, is this your second first Bill?"

"Yes, ma'am."

"How did you get by with the first one and not getting harassed? I don’t understand that."

"I don’t know. But I'm glad."

"You must have some pull in the back row. Actually, to the Sponsor and not necessarily to the Bill or what we're talking about. I wish you many years down here, young lady. You're am amazing Legislator and I hope this the beginning of a phenomenal career for you, my sister. I love you."

"Thank you very much."

"Mr. Yingling."

"Thank you, Chair. I just want the record reflect that I intended to vote 'no' on House Bill 4724."

"Thank you, Sir. Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes."

"Yes, Mr. Breen. They were in opposition in committee. You are correct. After I spoke with much passion, and explained to them my… our plight in southern Illinois of no broadband and what that means and that I had no intentions of this being a state funded broadband initiative. They removed their opposition."

"I don’t believe so. I don’t know."

"I didn’t… I didn’t hear you, I'm sorry."

"I… I'm sorry, I don’t know."

"Oh, well, they withdrew it in committee. So, I guess that… Was that good enough?"

"You could do that, Sir. Yes, Sir."

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"Thank you."

"Mr. Thapedi."

"Mr. Speaker, to the Bill. Representative Finnie came into committee. She did an outstanding job. The opposition was there. They had the opportunity to make their arguments. At the end of the committee, the opposition essentially folded. So, I would encourage all of the Members to vote 'aye' for this."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5675, Mr. Wehrli. Mr. Wehrli. Out of the record. House Bill 4433, Mr. Rita. Out of the record. House Bill… Excuse me. Senate Bill 351, Representative Wallace. Representative Wallace. Out of the record. House Bill 126, Representative Willis. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Willis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill is a companion Bill to a Bill that we passed last week. What this does is it allows of these six locals that are EMS only to now enter into the Illinois Public Labor Relations Act to be identified as 10000123.docx 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 members to be allowed in that. It is only for this Act only. And I would recommend adoption from it and be happy to take any questions."

"Mr. Breen."

"Thank you, Sir."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Correct."

"That is all it does. It allows these six small locals, which have a total of 60 members, to become recognized under the Illinois Public Labor Relations Act."

"Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 105 voting 'yes', 3 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3418, Representative Harper. Please read the Bill." 10000123.docx 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Representative Harper."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm pleased to present House Bill 3418 which would create urban ag areas in the State of Illinois. I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"Sure. House Bill 3418 creates urban ag areas in the State of Illinois."

"Sure. So like the ag areas program in the state, the urban ag areas program will be entirely voluntary for both local governments and farmers. And the Bill also identifies incentives that local governments may extend to farmers, such as reduced water rates, reduced utility fees, and property tax abatements. But the local governments have the flexibility to pick and choose from among those incentives as they see fit."

"There is no budget impact because… because these incentives are all conveyed by local government there are no state resources required to implement a new program. And again, it is voluntary. There are no tracking requirements as 10000123.docx 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 with our existing ag area programs, and there are also no state funded benefits."

"But they only have to make the rules and they don’t have to do anything else."

"So if the local government so choose to, they may provide property tax abatements."

"I'm sorry. Can you repeat the question?"

"Yes."

"It is exemption from municipal."

"I believe so, yes."

"So, I believe they would extend them to a case-by-case basis because each municipality creates the program and creates the rules around it. And so they would be seeing the applications of anyone who applied to this particular program and would be able to make their decisions on a case-by-case basis."

"Just municipalities."

"Yes."

"It's affecting…"

"It's amending the Illinois Municipal Code so anyone who falls under that is who it would apply to."

"I believe so, but I am checking that just to make sure."

"Of course. Yes, this applies to Chicago, totally."

"I'd like to remind you that this is, again… it's strictly voluntary and municipalities get to choose whether or not they want to extend these benefits and/or create these geographic areas of urban ag areas."

"Are you asking once you set it up… you saying that they won't be able to regulate the farming practices that take place inside of that area?"

"So, the board… there is a complete board that is designed to make all of those decisions. And an applicant who applies to the program would have to fall under whatever guidelines that municipality sets forth. And so I think that in that respect they do kind of have some… a little control over what types of activities can happen in those areas. And the Bill also defines what types of activities are allowed or considered… that will fall under urban ag activities."

"So, again, every municipality has to set up their own urban ag board, so to speak, where they stipulate these… where they stipulate what the qualifications are of an urban farmer. And with that, output production would be part of those stipulations that that municipality decides that those farmers have to abide by. And I think that that is getting to what."

"And I also wanted to say if they don’t follow through on the agreement, then the municipality can dissolve that area, that urban ag area, if they are not following those rules."

"Sure."

"We have been working on this legislation for over a year and I'm very happy to say that the Illinois Farm Bureau has helped us with the language on this, as well as the Illinois Department of Agriculture. And with that, we have removed all opposition because we have worked with them to… for… to get what you have before you today."

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"Correct."

"The City of Chicago is neutral."

"Yes."

"To be honest with you, Representative, the reason why I proposed this Bill is because we are already kind of doing this in Chicago. We have piloted urban ag areas in the city and now we want to codify it and also allow other municipalities across the state to do some of the same activities that we've been doing as well."

"To be honest with you, Representative, I couldn’t say. The main objections that we had were those that were brought forth from the Illinois Department of Ag and the Illinois Farm Bureau. And like I said, because I've been working very closely with them over the past year to make sure that this legislation is sound, I can't tell you the… any other 10000123.docx 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 opposition to this Bill. None have been brought to my attention or have come to me."

"Thank you."

"Representative Ives."

"Sponsor yields."

"So, you're asking me what a socially disadvantaged farmer is?"

"Does my Bill speak to socially disadvantaged farmers?"

"I do not believe that my Bill refers to socially disadvantaged farmers."

"Okay. But either way, I do have a definition for you. A socially disadvantaged farmer is a farmer who is part of a group whose members have been subjected to racial, ethnic, or gender prejudice because of their identity as members of a group without regard to that member’s personal qualities. And we define socially disadvantaged farmers… they could be female farmers, or farmers of color. And that is following the federal definition of the socially disadvantaged farmer."

"No. This Bill does not give preferential treatment to any farmers."

"There is no size restriction. And as an urban ag, we don’t necessarily go by plot size because some of our farms are vertical and happen inside of buildings, and so we have put no restrictions on plot size."

"If your city would… would deem you an urban farmer just because you’re growing food in your backyard, then I think you've got some problems with the people running your city. Because that’s not what this Bill would do."

"It would if the municipality who are creating the rules and the regulations around the program provide for that. And that’s why we give them total control over this process."

"Mr. Costello."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, so I know at the beginning of this process both the Department of Agriculture and the Farm Bureau had issues with this Bill. They were against it. And you've worked with them to get to a point to where they’re neutral on this Bill. So can you give me a little bit of history of working both with the Department of Agriculture and the Illinois Farm Bureau which are, to my knowledge, the premiere groups that represent farmers in the State of Illinois." 10000123.docx 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Sure. So as stated before, I have really been working hard, again, with the Illinois Department of Ag and the Illinois Farm Bureau. When I first proposed this Bill, the Illinois Farm Bureau was opposed to it. They thought that it would give certain benefits to certain farmers over other farmers and so we have overcome that. They also were concerned that they wanted it to only apply to statistical metropolitan areas throughout the state. And that's why we have now made sure it is only happening in municipal areas. And again, I'm very pleased with the way the Illinois Department of Ag has also been advising us on this Bill, especially in the role that they should or should not play. And so, again, we have been working very, very hard to remove opposition and make sure that this is a Bill that is good for everyone."

"Thank you. And as I stated earlier, agriculture is the #1 industry in the State of Illinois. One in four jobs in our state are some way, shape, or form related to agriculture. That doesn’t always mean corn, soybeans, wheat; it could be turf management. There are a number of things that occur in urban areas that have to do with agriculture. And I would also say the largest 4-H group in the State of Illinois is from Cook County. So those kids are working on agricultural projects all the time. I thank you for your work on this Bill. And I recommend an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Sponsor yields."

"I don’t think so. I think it's just property tax abatements to certain urban areas."

"I think that we can be assured that incentives will only be given to property that is being used by a qualified farmer to grow food. Not any other property, not any other developments will receive any tax benefits."

"Yes."

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"Mr. Riley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"And I really can't… you know other people have said… you really can't hear in here. So I didn’t even know you had acknowledged me. Representative Harper, this is a great Bill. But a lot of things have been said which have nothing to do with what you’re endeavoring to do with your Bill. I mean, it really doesn’t. If you're against it, be against it. But I mean, urban agriculture is something that really has been around for a while. I remember, it was about eight years ago I went to a symposium at UIC that talked about different techniques and actually zoning which would be able to incorporate these types of uses. And so I commend you for this… for this Bill. These urban agricultural zones, they would still be subject to zoning, the zoning regulations that exist in that particular municipality?"

"Yes."

"Okay. Yeah. Well, zoning makes an attempt to try to control land use, right? So that's where checks and balances exist right there by virtue of the zoning of that land. Something else, someone said something about the amount of land or the control of land. For the most part, these urban agricultural plots have taken place in abandoned lots in the City of Chicago primarily. Is that true?"

"I'm sorry, Representative. Can you repeat the question?"

"Okay. Most of the urban agricultural plots, haven’t they taken place in abandoned lots?" 10000123.docx 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Yes. In fact, the #1 reason… or one of the biggest reasons why we use urban agriculture is to put our vacant land back to productive use especially in communities that are food insecure or food deserts, shall I say. For example, in the City of Chicago, hundreds of thousands of people are living in food deserts that are on the south and west sides. In those same communities, we have tracts and tracts and even acres and acres of vacant land that’s just sitting there. And so now what people are doing is they're putting that land back to productive use, using it to produce healthy food for people in a food desert community who are dying every day from preventable diet-related diseases. And actually, reviving the local economy and bringing jobs to an area that is depressed and does not have them. So, yes."

"And there’s also community-based organizations and there have been compacts of groups which want to try to come in neighborhoods and be able to, you know, grow crops and teach, you know, the local students how to go about doing this. Doesn’t that exist?"

"Yes, it does. In fact, I spent four years working for an urban farm that does just that in the community. They educate residents on food and nutrition. They teach them how to garden, but the most importantly they are a source for jobs. Jobs built-in training for individuals with multiple barriers to employment. And so, what we've seen urban ag serve two or three different purposes in our community, Sir, by giving jobs, giving food, reviving the economics in the communities. So, yes, you are right." 10000123.docx 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"And I would guess that if you got in your car in your district office, and you drove a little bit south and a little bit to the west, you would run into one of the largest agricultural schools in this nation, the Chicago School of Agricultural Sciences. Isn't that true?"

"That is true. I'm scheduled to be there next week."

"To the Bill. This is a great Bill. There's just all kinds of information and research done on urban agriculture. As I say, University of Illinois at Chicago had a symposium a few years ago, and a matter of fact I think there are courses that you can take there in urban agriculture. Let's make this Bill what it is, which is a great Bill. There are numerous restaurants in the City of Chicago that buy their produce from these types of plots. It's a great Bill. Everybody should be behind this Bill if you're for agriculture in the State of Illinois. Thank you."

"Mr. Arroyo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could you move the previous question, please?"

"Gentleman moves for the previous question. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the previous question is put. Representative Harper to close."

"The Urban Agriculture Areas Bill will definitely help with food access, put our vacant land back to productive use. But also, help clean up our neighborhoods, relieve maintenance and it even produces economic returns for the community. I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? 10000123.docx 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 86 voting 'yes', 22 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Mr. Yingling."

"Thank you. A point of personal privilege, Speaker."

"Proceed, Sir."

"Thank you. I want to introduce some… two very special people in the gallery from my district from Round Lake. Michael and Jennifer Blum, who also serve as commissioners on the Round Lake Area Park District. So let's give them a big round of applause and welcome."

"Welcome aboard. Thank you for joining us today. Representative Hammond."

"You may proceed."

"Welcome. Thanks for joining. Enjoy your day here. Representative Phelps Finnie."

"Point of personal privilege?"

"Please proceed."

"I want to recognize Cody Sandusky. He's up here to the left… my left. Hi, Cody. Cody is a pharmacist in our area. He's also here representing the Illinois Pharmacy Association lobbying for some very important Bills that are 10000123.docx 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 coming up for pharmacies. And he is a dear friend of ours. And I will say this about Cody, one of the most intelligent people I've ever known, kind hearted and an unbelievable classic pianist. Good to have you here, Cody. Let's give him a welcome."

"Thanks for being here with us today. Members, we're going back to this order of call on Second Reading. House Bill 4412, Representative Ammons. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4701, Mr. Burke. Dan Burke. Out of the record. House Bill 4512, Representative Conyears-Ervin. Conyears-Ervin. Out of the record. House Bill 4516, Representative Fine. Representative Fine. Out of the record. House Bill 1593, Representative Harper. Please read the Bill. "

"Representative Harper."

"Pull it out of the record, please."

"Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 4193, Representative Parkhurst. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Parkhurst."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4236, Mr. Phillips. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Phillips."

"Briefly tell us what the Amendment does, Sir."

"Mr. Thapedi."

"Mr. Speaker, will the Sponsor yield, briefly?" 10000123.docx 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Phillips, just a little clarification about Floor Amendment #2. I know that you're working very hard on putting this deal together, but would you please clarify exactly what Floor Amendment #2 is doing with respect to the underlying Bill, how you've changed it? And the only reason why I ask that is that there seems to be some information going around, perhaps it's misinformation, perhaps its correct information, about what exactly you’re trying to accomplish. I don’t want you to go into too much detail, but I know you will debate this on Third Reading. But I just want to get some clarification about what Floor Amendment #2 actually does."

"Mr. Speaker, I'm having some difficulty in hearing."

"Mr. Thapedi, before you proceed. Ladies and Gentlemen. Ladies and Gentlemen. That's much better. Mr. Thapedi."

"That's very effective, Mr. Speaker, very effective. So, Representative Phillips, let's just make sure I understand correctly. So the goal of your Bill is to position Illinois to be able to generate power utilizing Illinois coal. In large part Illinois coal is not used in existing coal fire powered plants because of the high content of sulfur. So as a result, oftentimes we’re utilizing Wyoming coal and other coal from other resources and we're actually exporting our coal elsewhere. Is that accurate?"

"All right."

"All right. And you said one very, very important thing. And this is my last question on this issue with respect to Floor Amendment #2. Your Floor Amendment #2, along with the underlying Bill, has the presumption that you have already lined up investors that are going to make the investment to build this plant. Is that accurate?"

"Thank you, Sir." 10000123.docx 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Mr. Arroyo on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Mr. Chair. Representative, how much does this plant cost?"

"How much does this plant cost to build?"

"Who's paying for it?"

"Private investors. Is there any state dollars involved?"

"So, my understanding is that the taxpayers in my district are going to have to help pay for this plant… for this plant in Coles County. I don’t even know where Coles County is. And if that's the case, I don’t… I don’t… I wouldn’t want my taxpayer from my district have to pay for a coal plant in anybody else's district. So could you tell me who is going to pay for it? You said this is all private investors?"

"Thank you, Representative about… for telling me about how it's going to create the megawatts and how it’s going to be… what it's going to do. I'm more interested in who's going to pay for it and if my constituents rates are going to go up. Is ComEd going to have to raise their rates or Ameren? What… who… how is that going to happen? Are my people, in my district going to have to pay for your coal plant in your district?"

"I don’t want to… I don’t want to support anything that my constituents in my district are going to pay for somewhere down in Coles County, where I don’t even know where it's at. So I'm not going to vote for this if the rates are going to go up, if ComEd is not for it, if Ameren is not for it. You have a lot of people here to oppose this Bill."

"I haven’t got…" 10000123.docx 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Yes."

"But you keep going back… you keep going back to what it is. I want to I…"

"I want to go and talk about what it's going to do. Who's going to pay for this, if the rates are going to go up for ComEd and for the agencies…"

"So you're saying it’s not going to raise… it's not going to raise the rates?"

"Are you telling me it's not going to raise the rates?"

"Okay. I differ with you. But to the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, from what I understand, there's a lot of agencies that are not for this Bill because it's going to raise our rates. And the people from the City of Chicago and people from all over the state are going to have to pay for a coal plant somewhere in Coles County. That I don’t even know where Coles County is. I don’t know where nothing is west of 88. But I'm not going vote for this Bill. And I would ask all of 10000123.docx 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 the colleagues on this side of the aisle and anybody that's got a good conscious not to vote for this Bill. Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen."

"Mr. Cavaletto on the Amendment."

"Ladies and Gentlemen. Ladies and Gentlemen."

"Mr. Costello on the Amendment on Second Reading."

"Thank you… thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move the previous question."

"No need. No need. Mr. Phillips, do you wish to close on your Amendment on Second Reading."

"Go ahead, Sir."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. That was easy. Mr. Clerk."

"Please hold this Bill on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Hoffman is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would just like a point of personal privilege to recognize the Belleville West High School basketball team. Representative Greenwood and I are lucky enough to represent the area that is… makes up the Belleville West territory. They beat and won the state championship by holding off Chicago Whitney Young in overtime to win the championship. They have a record of 32 wins and 2 losses. Please give a warm Springfield welcome to Belleville West Maroons." 10000123.docx 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Welcome. Glad you're here with us today. Enjoy your day in Springfield. Representative Manley is recognized."

"Point of personal privilege, please?"

"Please proceed."

"I just want to say… want to introduce all of you to some really good friends of mine. They've taught me a lot about motorcycle safety and I… We have Will County ABATE in the gallery behind the Republican side. If you will just give them a warm Springfield welcome, thank them for their advocacy and for being so good to me. Thanks, guys."

"Good to see you. Thanks for being here. House Bill 5197, Mr. Hoffman. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4575, Mr. Hoffman. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4297, Representative Lilly. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Lilly." 10000123.docx 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'd like to adopt the Amendment on the Floor. It's some technical changes that we discussed related to posting the reports electronically."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk.”

"Please hold the Bill on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 5164, Representative Moeller. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Moeller."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment #2 is a gut and replace on House Bill 5164. It establishes a subcommittee of OASAC to discuss the streamlining and greater efficacy in signing seniors up for Medicaid. It also increases the reimbursement rate for Medicaid applications from $60 to $240."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Please hold the Bill on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 4404, Representative McDermed. McDermed. Please read the Bill."

"Representative McDermed."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5005, Mr. Wheeler. Keith Wheeler. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Wheeler." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment 1 is agreed language with AFSCME that will get us to… get this Bill 10000123.docx 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 through and then address further issues that may come up in November. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4888, Mr. Bennett. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Bennett."

"I had switched to a Third Reading Bill here, Members. We had been doing Seconds. So just for the heck of it, there being no debate on this Bill, those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Soto. Please take the record. There are 109 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Returning to Second Reading Bills. House Bill 1190, Leader Currie. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. Under current statutes municipalities may combine their water and sewer systems, but sanitary districts cannot. This just provides that sanitary districts have that same opportunity. And I'd be happy to answer your questions. I'd appreciate your 'aye' vote on the Amendment."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk. "

"Third Reading. House Bill 1443, Representative Willis. Representative Willis. Out of the record. House Bill 4650, Mr. Zalewski. Please read the Bill." 10000123.docx 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Mr. Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Floor Amendment #1 represents an agreement among all the stake acts… stakeholders. I ask for its adoption."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4701, Mr. Burke. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4516, Representative Fine. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Fine."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment 1 outlines what would and would not be covered for hearing aids for children under the age of 18." 10000123.docx 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4821, Representative Fine. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Fine."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Amendment just clarifies language in the legislation that says if you have stage 4 cancer, you do not have to go through the fail first program for a FDA medication to be prescribed for you."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House… Third Reading on the next order of priority. House Bill 2367, Mr. Ford. Please read the Bill. We'll return the Bill to Second Reading, Mr. Clerk and read the Bill."

"Mr. Ford on Amendment 5."

"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to Table Amendment 5."

"Amendment 5 is withdrawn. Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Ford on Amendment 7."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I move for the adoption of Floor Amendment #7. And it simply makes technical changes to the Bill. And it changes the time frame that a person can seek an expungement from four years to three years. And it also states that the petitioner has to wait until the end of their sentence before they can apply for an expungement. I move for adoption of Floor Amendment #7."

"The Clerk is recognized. Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, can you clarify the record, please?"

"Thank you. So those Amendments will be withdrawn. Those Motions that… those are Motions to Table, but those Amendments will be withdrawn. Third Reading, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 4495, Mr. Thapedi. 4495, Sir. Out of the record. House Bill 5293, Mr. Costello. Mr. Costello. Out of the record. House Bill 5212, Mr. Demmer. Please read the Bill." 10000123.docx 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Mr. Demmer."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Soto. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 109 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Returning to House Bill 5293, Mr. Costello. Please read the Bill. There is a Floor Amendment. Do you wish to adopt the Amendment and return it to Third, Sir? Mr. Clerk, please put the Bill on the Order of Second Reading and read the Amendment."

"Mr. Costello on the Amendment."

"Mr. Speaker, there are a couple of changes that have been made to this Bill… this Amendment. Reduces the number of seats that we’re asked on the board from two to one. It also would take incidental take to something that’s more in line with what the environmental council and a couple of other 10000123.docx 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 groups asked for. It's not agreed, but it's definitely a Bill that comes closer to what the 'asks' were from the opposition. I thank you. And I'd ask for the adoption of the Amendment.”

“Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5029, Mr. Meier. Please read the Bill. Please put the Bill on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Meier, do you want to adopt your Amendment or take it out of the record? Mr. Clerk, please put the Bill on the Order of Second Reading and read the Bill."

"Mr. Meier."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5793, Mr. Andrade. Please read the Bill." 10000123.docx 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Mr. Andrade."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 5793 creates an exemption in Illinois, two-party consent eavesdropping laws for doorbells or intercom devices installed in ones dwelling with their consent. This Bill addresses a situation that is growing every day in Illinois. There is a company called ring.com and what it does is when you come… for example, at someone's home and you ring the doorbell or once you come in within motion of the doorbell or their intercom system, that it starts to record. And I just feel that as a homeowner and we should have a right to protect our property. And so, I'm asking for an exemption on the eavesdropping law to make sure that residents of Illinois are protected and not sued."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"They're just fundamentally opposed to the idea. They just… they feel… that's all. They’re just fundamentally opposed. Just a philosophical difference."

"Yeah. They just stated even though it's your property, if you install the doorbell on your property, they feel that… No, here. This is just… they just told me they oppose it, but I don’t have specifics. I'm just talking on what I believe it 10000123.docx 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 is. It's just that even though they're walking onto my property or they come onto the motion, that I should have permission to record them. Currently, they're being recorded, you know, on video on most places, but I think though with the new technology there’s the ability to record sound, and that’s where the big difference comes in. And it's… you know, part of it is it’s saved on the cloud for… if something you come home and your packages are missing or somebody could use it, you know, to try and catch the person."

"Right. This is…"

“Correct.”

"Right. And I think the biggest thing is what… is some is one person's expectation of privacy once they're either on the public way or on someone's property. I think that's the biggest expectation. What is the expectation of privacy? And you know, most of these… well, they do. The company sends actually a notice for you to post on your window or your property to say, you know, you're being recorded. So that's already included in the package. It's growing every day. I mean, they just purchased… the company was just someone who 10000123.docx 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 was purchased, you know, by Amazon and will… it's just every house is installing these every day. Every day."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Mr. Drury."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

“Yes.”

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Andrade, where did this Bill come from?"

"From me. Because I installed it in my home."

"Okay. And so when it says that with the consent of the owner or lessee of the dwelling in which it's installed, the use of intercommunication device is allowed. Who do you consent to? Where do you provide your… someone who installs a nest doorbell. Who does he provide the consent to?"

"That's what I'm saying. I shouldn’t… I shouldn’t need your consent if you walk on my property."

"No. I'm talking about you though. It says with the consent of the owner. Who does the owner provide the consent to?"

"So, basically, that means that you can't come to my house without me knowing and installing that for me. So it has to be the owner of the property that installs it. It has to be the owner of the unit. It has to be the residential owner that installs, for example, the ring or the nest system. That's the language for that part, that it must come from one's self installation. It can't be installed by someone else without your consent." 10000123.docx 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Okay. So if it's presumed then that if you install it, that the owner has consented to all of the conversations that happen on that device being recorded?"

"Correct."

"Okay. And where are those recordings kept?"

"They're kept on the cloud. If you pay a service, you can pay monthly or a yearly service. They're paid on a… they're kept in a cloud."

"Okay. What if you install that doorbell as an owner, and you don’t want the recordings… don’t want those recordings to be kept?"

"Then you don’t pay for it."

"So, describe how that process works. I don’t have one of these doorbells."

"So the process works is they'll send you… you install the ring device. And it will tell you if you want to store these… if you want to store them, you have to create an account. Once you create an account, you have to pay for it. Either you pay monthly or you pay yearly. So that's the process. They will… they don’t keep it unless you pay for it."

"Okay. So when we go door to door campaigning and more and more of these doorbells have this. All of our campaign communications with people can now be recorded and kept and then played back."

"Yes."

"Okay, great."

"And so, I warned my workers that always assume that when you're walking into someone's property, you are being 10000123.docx 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 recorded by voice. And don’t walk up and say my God that's an ugly house because you will be recorded. The moment you are in motion, you will be recorded. So I think everyone here should be brought attention that eventually every house will have one of these."

"Why did you limit your Bill just to these doorbells? Why not just telephone communications?"

"I… it doesn’t just… it's the definition just doesn’t say doorbell. It says more of a recording telephone conversations is a separate issue. This doesn’t…"

"But why not include that? I mean people, you know, you're talking about expectations of privacy. Illinois is one of the only states that requires two-way consent."

"I think there's 12."

"So why not… if we're going to go this direction, why not just open it up and allow recordings of conversations in an office?"

"I'm doing baby steps. One at a time. One at a time. All I know is… I'm not an attorney. I'm not there. I'm just a homeowner that feels I have a right to protection. This Bill just comes from me. I actually called the RING council, General Consulate of California. She says we are… we don’t feel… she just said that we believe that you already have consent. I said I don’t think that's the way Illinois looks at it. And so, I just want to make sure to protect my residents and my neighbors and the rest of Illinois residents with the opportunity to make sure they're not sued. I just think… I think… I would rather have clarification in the law than let someone sue and then spend millions of dollars, which I don’t 10000123.docx 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 have a dollar even to defend myself and my residents don't, so I would rather make sure it's clear in the law now that the… you're not doing anything what’s that word, unscrupulous… suspiciously. We're not doing that. That's my biggest thing."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Thank you."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, I'm reminded of a law that we passed when video cameras first came out. And if my memory serves me correctly, during that time if you had an audio on your video camera outside, you had to turn it down so you could not listen to the conversations. So, I think that’s still the current law. And so, how would this Bill interact with that particular law?"

"That is… this Bill is a narrow, narrow exemption for the Eavesdropping Law. That would fall within there. For your right… right dwelling unit for your residential property."

"But my…"

"Currently and that is why… that is why this Bill is for to narrow that, to make a narrow exemption to what you're describing."

"Well, just can you, I don’t have one of those bells. You know, I know what you're talking about."

"I'll come over and show you. What happens is when someone rings the doorbell, it rings on my phone and I can 10000123.docx 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 answer it and I say get off my porch. I don’t want to talk to you."

"Fine.”

“But they don’t know they do.”

“But… but my point is they have to come on your property."

"Yes."

"To activate that sound."

"Yes. By pressing the button or by motion."

"Right. So the current law would still stand in regards to the videos without the ringing of the bell. If I have a… if I have a video surveillance I have to still turn the sound down as to not…"

"You mean mute it?"

"Pardon me?"

"Do you mean to mute the sound?"

"I need to mute the sound in order not to hear the conversations around me. But with your device, because there's an action that must be taken, you have to ring the bell or either come upon the property."

"So, you're describing more of a video camera that is not an intercom system. So, this is for intercom systems."

"Okay."

"These are… it’s strictly, strictly in the language it talks about intercom systems. It must be an intercom system which, right now, the A phones are there. They've existed for many, many years. It's an A phone system where you go and you press a button and there's video, currently. The difference is now with the… the biggest difference is before the only way that camera would turn on is if you pressed the doorbell. 10000123.docx 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 This now activates by motion. And the other difference is, is that this is stored… if you want to you can store it. On old intercom systems you're not… Actually, let me take that back. You can store video now on DVRs systems now. So, that doesn’t… I think the big difference now is that you are able and have the ability to buy motion and storage sound on the cloud. I think that's the biggest… biggest difference of this Bill."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Fortner."

"Sponsor yields."

"Correct."

"Correct."

"Correct."

"Yes. Thank you, Representative."

"Mr. Andrade to close."

"I respectfully request an 'aye' vote, Mr. Speaker."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. There are 109 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4284, Representative Chapa LaVia. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Thank you, Speaker. House Bill 4284, what it does it requires three of the nine board members of the State Board of Education to be represented by the education or educator community in the state. There's no opposition. I'll take any questions."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"Okay. So the current State Board of Education is comprised of eight members. They're a chairman of the members; two are from Cook County; two are from collar counties; two are from downstate counties, and three are from… at-large members. One which shall be the chairperson." 10000123.docx 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"So three of the board members would be from the education realm. One… let me see… one would be from Cook, one from the collar county and one from downstate counties for those three members."

"Well, these are the qualifications for those members: a citizen of the United States, resident of Illinois. Member shall benefit from… and I'm sorry. So, in that sense the School Management Alliance and the Illinois Association of School Administrators brought it to me because they saw a weakness that through their Vision 20/20 Initiative, according to that website, currently educators would… they were asking for us to allow current educators to serve on the state board. It provides professional expertise that would help guide implementation of the state initiatives and ensure that oversight and regulatory efforts positively impact student learning. So they wanted to make sure that those that are on the ground in the classrooms, administrators, of those sorts, even ROEs, were at the board to make sure that they're helping with the current board in making decisions on the ground."

"Right. So, Representative Breen, it's interesting you bring that up. So some of the members right now, like there is Ruth Cross, Lula Ford, Susie Morrison, Craig Lindvahl, and Kevin Settle. They’re all former educators. So we’re talking people that are actually in the throes of education in the state right now. So we're just hoping to get a little bit more of the voice of those that are dealing with issues within the school systems at the… at the board level."

"Right. Well, right now as it reads, current law, and so, I was reading it earlier just to give the rest of what the appointments look like currently. Citizen of the United States, resident of Illinois, members shall not benefit from funds provided by the State Board of Education to any institution of higher learning, public or private within Illinois. The member shall not be school trustee of a public or nonpublic college, university, or a technical institution within Illinois. And last but not least, no member shall be appointed for more than two-to four-year terms. And then, under the three members, the new members, to finish that… says further provides that of the educator community appointments no more than one member may be employed as a district superintendent, principal, school business official, or teacher. And that none may be employed by the same school district or school. To implement these changes this Bill makes other technical changes, that removes language prohibiting 10000123.docx 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 members of the State Board of Education from being members of a school board or employed or administratively connected with any school system."

"No, that's why I said in there, there are some other language that is put into that Bill to change that, the structure of that, allowing the three different new members from one upstate, one Cook, and then one collar county, and then one downstate member.”

“We changed the language that… House Bill 4284 also makes other technical changes that removes language prohibiting the members from the State Board of Education from being members of school boards, employees or administrative contact connected with any school district. So it removes that language within this Bill, too, the statute."

"Representative Chapa LaVia to close."

"Well, I really respect the last Leader also, but if… and your sense of, you know, prowess, if you will, in the field in which you discussed. But this Bill was brought to me by the educators of the State of Illinois that I fully trust. They wouldn’t come to us with a 20/20 plan that's made a lot of adjustments to the State of Illinois including, you know, our new funding formula that we just passed. I think it's important that we leave… we always are complaining that we're, you know, we're kind of jack of all trades here, but we're not expert in any. We're leaving this to the experts. And this is what I'm doing with this legislation putting it back where it belongs. And I request an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 88 voting 'yes', 19 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair 10000123.docx 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 recognizes Representative Bryant on a point of personal privilege."

"Welcome aboard. Thank you, Sir. Mr. DeLuca is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to recognize one of my mayors who is with us today. Mayor Terry Matthews from the Village of South Chicago Heights. Welcome to Springfield."

"Welcome, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Welch."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege?"

"Go right ahead."

"I'd like to welcome my Page to Springfield for the day. This is her second year of joining me as a Page. She’s a freshman at Kaneland High School. She's involved in the Model UN. And also her mom Mary Fields is up in the gallery. Let's please welcome Sadie Edgar to the House Floor to Page for the day. Please stop by and visit her and welcome her here. Thank you so much."

"Welcome to the House chamber. Thanks for joining us. Members, the House Democrats will have an immediate caucus in Room 114 for one hour, one hour. I do not believe the Republicans are caucusing. Is that correct? The Republicans will do whatever it is Republicans do. The Democrats will caucus immediately for one hour. The House will be in recess 'til the hour of 1:35." 10000123.docx 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"House will be back in order. Representative Currie in the Chair. We're going to proceed on Third Readings. And the next Bill is Representative Costello, if you're ready on House Bill 5293. Oops, we already passed it. House Bill 4689, Representative Crespo. Are you ready? Are you here? Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Crespo."

"Thank you, Speaker. House Bill 4689… yes… puts some perspective on this. In 2014, by statute, we created the Grant Accountability Transparency Act which established consistent federally compliant requirements for all grants, regardless of the source of funding. Pretty much, we need that. We apply federal requirements to state grants. It has been a great program. It has been nationally recognized. The Bill before you today, what it does, it repeals a sunset of the Grant Accountability Transparency Act and makes technical changes to various changes in Federal Law. I'd also like to thank our colleague, Patti Bellock, who was instrumental in passing this Bill in 2014. Happy to answer any questions."

"Representative Crespo has moved for passage of House Bill 4689. And on that question, Representative Breen."

"He will."

"Not that I'm aware of." 10000123.docx 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Actually this is a program that we put together under Governor Quinn and to Governor Rauner's credit, he's embraced the program and it's been a great program for the state."

"No further discussion. Representative Crespo moves passage of House Bill 4689. All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk, please take the record. On this measure, there are 108 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no'… I'm sorry… 2 voting 'present'… 0 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the appropriate Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Feigenholtz, are you ready with House Bill 2949? 4949. Clerk, please read the Bill. Representative, you want to bring this back to Second for purposes of an Amendment? No, she'd like you to read the Bill."

"Representative Feigenholtz."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Members of the House, we had a brief discussion about House Bill 4949. We put an Amendment on it that further clarified steps that would need to be taken on the Department of Human Services website. This Bill is designed to… you know, there are out-of-state brokers and scam artists who are taking advantage of residents in our state saying that they are licensed providers and costing vulnerable people a lot of heartache and expense. This is 10000123.docx 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 something that's happening around the country. We're seeing legislation like this in many states. I know that there were some Members across the aisle who will have questions and I am happy to answer them."

"Representative Feigenholtz moves passage of House Bill 4949. And on that Motion, Representative Breen."

"She will."

"I don't believe the Amendment has been adopted, Representative. The Amendment has not been adopted."

"That's my understanding."

"I thought we did the Amendment? I'm sorry, I thought we did the Amendment. Is it out of Rules?"

"It's on the floor. And I asked if you wanted to go back to Second Reading. So, do you want to…"

"I'm sorry. I do."

"Clerk, if you would put the Bill back on Second Reading so that the Amendment may be offered."

"Representative Feigenholtz."

"Thank you. I'm sorry about that confusion. This Amendment adds steps that… and other information that on the Internet that will be taken so that there's more information for people who are looking for providers of substance abuse treatment in Illinois. It will require them to disclose that they do not have an Illinois address, that they are not licensed in the State of Illinois. And it will direct them to a link at the Department of Human Services that shows them a list of Illinois-based licensed providers in our community.”

"On Amendment 1 to House Bill 4949, all in favor say 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Representative Ford, are you ready with… with House Bill 5508? Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Ford."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. When I think of this Bill, 5508, it reminds me of Mother Theresa. One of Mother Theresa's favorite texts in the Bible, which she often quoted to support her ministry to the poor is, Truly, I tell you. Whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did it for me. House Bill 5508 creates a new Act called the Access to Affordable, Permanent, and Supportive Housing and Services Act. Under House Bill 5508, local 10000123.docx 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 governments ‘may’… ‘may’ assist persons experiencing homelessness living in public spaces and provide assistance towards permanent supportive housing or affordable housing in the person's desired geographic location. With that, I'll take any questions from Members of this Body."

"Representative Ford moves passage of House Bill 5508. And on that Motion, is there any discussion? Seeing no one asking for an opportunity to speak… Oh, Representative Breen."

"He indicates he will."

"Everything is permissive in this Bill."

"Yes. I mean, if someone wants to ask for help they should be able to ask for help.” 10000123.docx 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

“That's why that's ‘shall’."

"A ‘shall’ not."

"You know, it's our goal to have a dialogue with that person that's considered homeless. And our goal is to try to connect them with housing, if possible."

“Well, they…”

"I don’t think they have to give them a housing unit in order to… that's right. I think you're right. You can't just tell them to leave the park without offering them some sort of shelter."

"If the person that's homeless actually wants help from the local government."

"I take… I'll let you decide whether you are speaking accurately or not."

"To the Bill."

"Further discussion? Representative Bellock."

"He indicates he will."

"Well, it's not a mandate that they ‘must’ find housing for the individual, but they must have a dialogue with the 10000123.docx 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 homeless person if the homeless person is in a public location and the local government is asking for them to move…"

"…from that public location. You can't just throw the homeless person out of the park without providing them with some form of shelter."

"So, here we are again with… I mean, I know I don’t always read things the way I'm supposed to read them.”

“Everything in this Bill says 'may'. And so they ‘may’."

"I'm not sure."

"They are not opposed. I know they are not opposed. And they did a physical impact study and this Bill has no impact on municipalities and it also has no impact on local governments. The impact study was done."

"No."

"There’s no opposition to my knowledge, but I think that you're right that IML is opposed."

"Right."

"Further discussion? Representative McDermed."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Well, I think that local governments have a responsibility to the people that they are governing over. And so if they don’t have someone to tend to the homeless population, then that's a poor local government."

"It… an impact study was done on this Bill and there's no impact for the state. And there’s no impact… financial impact for local governments because everything is permissive. I think that we have to make sure that we really look at the Bill closely and realize that this is permissive."

"That it's permissive, right?"

"Afford what?"

"Those exist in local governments and this does not speak to hiring any new staff or any new departments for the local governments."

"Well, I mean, I would like to hope that if people in their municipalities experience homeless populations that they have some form of support for people that’s homeless."

"Homeless people will probably be homeless in an area in which they are sleeping in public places. So, the goal is to make sure…"

"I don’t know just like you don’t."

"So we could pass the Bill…"

"I mean, I don’t know what to tell you. But all I can tell you is that you want to speak…" 10000123.docx 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"My Bill… but my Bill doesn’t speak about hypotheticals. My Bill speak about taking care of the homeless and making sure that…"

"Does… doesn't it being permissive mean anything to this Bill? What… what does it…"

"No, it provides rights for homeless people. I mean, if you… you don’t want to vote for the rights of the homeless people, I understand."

"Well, you know what could actually happen in those municipalities. They could leave the homeless person alone that's in the park and not throw them out. And then they don’t have to worry about them."

"Further discussion? Representative Wallace."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates he will."

"What is the title… the short title of this Bill?"

"The short title of the Bill creates a new Act called Access to Affordable, Permanent, and Supportive Housing and Services Act."

"Yes. And then in subsection 1 the short title is it this Bill ‘may’ be cited as the Access to Affordable Permanent Housing? Well…"

"Yes, it ‘may’."

"And then if you go a little further. If we go to, oh gosh, what Section is that? I'm sorry. The next ‘may’ in the Act is that Section 5 Housing Services and Supports. Does it 10000123.docx 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 suggest that the unit of local government ‘may’ do all of the following?"

"Exactly, it says 'may' in subsection 1 and 5."

"So this is not a Bill that is a mandate, is it?"

"Absolutely not."

"Does the word ‘shall’ appear at any point?"

"Yes, at one point."

"And what shall they do?"

"That they shall offer if they are deciding to kick them out of a public place, they ‘shall’ offer supportive programs."

"And it's your contention that there are departments throughout the state in a number of municipalities that are already providing these types of services?"

"It's my hope. And also, the DHS is in support because they’re going to compile a list and put on their website, as a result of this Bill, of supported programs for the homeless population."

"And are you aware that there are a number of federal grants that municipalities may apply for to get assistance with making sure that individuals who are homeless actually have some rights afforded to them?"

"Dr. Wallace, I think that that's our goal here is to make sure that local governments have the ability to have the conversation with the homeless population and begin to think more about providing homeless population with supportive housing or permanent housing."

"Thank you, Representative Ford. To the Bill."

"To the Bill." 10000123.docx 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"I do wish that as we have conversations around Bills in this chamber that we were really focused on what the Bill actually does. That we would focus on what the Bill language actually says. And that then we would weigh what our vote should be based upon fact and not hypothetical or not what we have assumed is what is in the language. The language is clear. It's a… not a very long Bill. It presents several opportunities that say that this is 'may' and we suggest, and we hope to create these rights for individuals who are extremely vulnerable. They're already homeless. They are susceptible to a number of other things whether it's physical injury, whether it's death. I mean, a number of issues. And I think that we should focus on what the Bill actually says. And when you read what this Bill actually says about what units of government ‘may’ provide and then should they decide to intervene with that person, it just gives a little clearer definition of the type of assessment that should occur so that referral and connection can happen. It's not suggesting that the city or municipality become the case managers of these individuals and fully provide every single thing from step a to step z. It's saying connect this individual or these families, because we have a number of homeless families on the streets throughout the State of Illinois, connect them with the services that can help them give stability… or get stability. So let's just be, you know, clear about what we're voting on. This is a good Bill. And I encourage an 'aye' vote." 10000123.docx 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Members, a lot of us have a lot to say on House Bill 5508, so I'm going to use the prerogative of the Chair to use the five-minute timer. Representative Keith Wheeler." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Madam Speaker. Inquiry of the Chair."

"Indeed." Wheeler, K.: "Does this Bill preempt Home Rule?"

"We'll check that out and get back to you." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you. And then finally should this Bill receive the requisite votes, I request a verification."

"We'll make note of that. Thank you very much." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you."

"Further discussion? Representative Fortner."

"Indicates he will."

"Well, certainly. Because it says access to affordable, permanent, and supportive housing services, which could be a shelter."

"Well, you know, that's a tough one to say. I would say that for some people it is."

"I think you’re reading everything properly."

"Do you want me to say it twice?"

"You're reading everything properly."

"I've already told you that you’re reading it accurately, properly. You're right."

"Well, it's still permissive, once again. It is a you ‘may’."

“So, it…”

"You know, I think that that's something that I can hear you and that's something that I'm willing to amend in the Senate."

"I appreciate that. I don’t like the Amendment. But I would gladly amend the Bill in the Senate if that gains your vote to say that a shelter can be offered instead of permanent housing as the ‘shall’." 10000123.docx 89  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Representative Jones. The five-minute timer will be on."

"Thank you, Madam Chair. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative Ford, there's been some debate about this Bill and some of the requirements. So, I only have five minutes. Let me go through this. There were fiscal notes filed on this Bill, correct?"

"Correct."

"And do you know the results of those fiscal notes?"

"The notes were returned for the state fiscal note and there would be no impact. And for the state mandated fiscal, there is no impact."

"Okay."

"It states that it would not require a unit of local government to establish, expand, or modify activities in such a way at all to deal with the issue."

"So the talk that this will impact local governments is… is it incorrect in your opinion?"

"You know, yes. It's very incorrect."

"Are you… had any discussions with the IML regarding this Bill?"

"No."

"Has the IML approached you at all regarding this Bill?" 10000123.docx 90  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"They've only approached Members to ask them to vote against it. I have not heard from anyone to work with me to try to make it more palatable for them to accept."

"And to your knowledge, IML doesn’t write statutes. They don’t write ordinances. They don’t apply for ordinances to local municipalities. They don’t do that, correct?"

"That's correct."

"And with them not approaching you, do you think that's a fair assessment of your Bill?"

"It's not."

"Are you aware that the… there are also homeless school children that go to local schools? Have you contacted any of the schools? Have they weighed in on your Bill?"

"Yes. There are… I'm aware, yes."

"What about the Chicago Coalition for the Homeless? Have you been in discussions with them regarding your Bill?"

"Chicago Coalition for the Homeless? Yes. They helped with the language of this Bill."

"Would it shock you that in 2017, that we had 32 thousand people… estimated 32 thousand people who are homeless?"

"It's shocking and it's inhumane."

"Okay. Now what would your Bill… since there's no fiscal impact on your Bill, do you feel like local municipalities since they collect taxes from the local residents that they have an obligation to consider this and put this in ordinance form and support this type of measure?"

"You know, I would think so."

"Okay. To the Bill."

"To the Bill." 10000123.docx 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"I pray to God that no one in this room ever becomes homeless. We have over 32 thousand… 38 thousand homeless people in our society. And for years, our society has treated homeless people like they're less than human. Representative Ford's Bill simply says it gives them the right to have something in their community, even if they're sleeping in their car, they’re in a local McDonald’s. The right to feel like they’re part of our society. I support this Bill and I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Ammons. Five-minute timer will be on."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Thank you. I'm listening to the debate, Representative, and I'm a… I just wanted to clarify what you are attempting to do with this piece of legislation."

"What I'm attempting to do with this legislation is simply create a new Act called Access to Affordable, Permanent, and Supportive Housing and Services Act."

"So under this legislation, how would that be done without resources from local community? Does that provide any kind of direction to local communities to make… meet this Act?"

"No."

"And so, have we seen… and I have experienced some things of homelessness in our community. Would this preclude municipalities from working with already existing organizations that address homelessness in those communities?" 10000123.docx 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Absolutely not. And that's what this is all about. Bringing the organizations together to help the homeless in those communities including the Department of Human Services will be working with local municipalities to provide information about resources that may be available."

"So, in that description, it’s to your intent to not make this a mandate but to bring this to the attention, certainly, of the Legislature and ultimately the local governments to put in steps and instruments to help the homeless in our state?"

"That's accurate."

"Thank you for responding to my questions. To the Bill."

"To the Bill."

"One of the most difficult things that people experience is people who live check to check can become homeless overnight. We've seen the growth of homeless children. In my district, we have a number of children who are registered as homeless that attend our school districts, whose families are struggling day to day just to simply find somewhere to live each night and get that child back to school. I think this is an important initiative and really should be a statement of principle of the State of Illinois that says we care about what happens to our citizens. And when they are at risk of becoming homeless, we want to make sure that the municipalities, where the direct service work can take place, can ensure that those families have resources to use and to prevent homelessness at every cost. And where it does exist, that we provide dignity for those who are struggling with 10000123.docx 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 homelessness. And I urge an 'aye' vote from the Members of this General Assembly."

"For the record, the parliamentarian assures that this is not a preemption of Home Rule, in response to Representative Wheeler's question. Representative Wheeler." Wheeler, K.: "I just want to clarify then that the vote total remains on 60 votes on this Bill then, correct?"

"It will require 60 votes." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you."

Speaker Currie: "Further discussion? Representative David… Davidsmeyer."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Yes. I'm sure your system tells you the same."

"Wherever those impact studies come from that you receive and I receive, I got it."

“So, the fiscal note…”

"…the Department of Human Services presented the impact study."

"I don’t know."

"I'll remember that question. That's a good question always, right?"

"Did they contact every municipality to ask each municipality…"

"Unless…"

"How can I say it?"

"Because the note told me."

"So you don’t believe… you don’t believe in the studies, because I notice you guys do them all the time."

"So, what if?"

"I mean, I think this comes down to one thing."

"We could talk about… we could talk about whatever you want to talk about. It's either you're for the Bill to help the homeless population, or you are against it."

"All right. Then… All right."

"Who owns the high school?" 10000123.docx 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Public entity, okay."

"I mean, why would you even say that a homeless person would pitch a tent at a football field? They could pitch a tent in front of your house. And that’s a private place right in their right of way."

"Have you ever seen that?"

"Right. It's just like… that answer…"

"What if. What if. What if. What if."

"What if."

"You can always find a way to make something not perfect. Look, you can argue all you want. I hear you. You can come up with many different…"

"Thank you." 10000123.docx 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"To the Bill."

"Do you want to bring your remarks to a close? You've exceeded your five minutes but go ahead."

"Representative Andrade."

"Will the Sponsor yield, Madam?"

"He indicates he will."

"I just… I'm reading the analysis here and it says that the belongings… no local government may dispose of a person's belongings in any manner. So that means, right now, they have to give notice. There's a… the City of Chicago… well, first of all, does this… does this preempt Home Rule?"

"No."

"So this Bill would affect the City of Chicago, then?"

"Yes."

"Okay. So if right now it's required that you have to post and then you can remove the belongings. So would this now eliminate that?"

"No."

"So you now you can… so why does it say no local may dispose of any person's belongings in any manner?" 10000123.docx 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Why does it say it?"

"Yeah. I'm just reading it and it says in any manner so."

"It's already statute. It's already in a statute in the City of Chicago right now and throughout, I believe, the state that you can't do it anyway. But you see it happening all the time."

"But they can do it as long as they post."

"I'm not sure."

"Here… I just…"

"But this protects so that they can't do it. There are a lot of vital…"

"But they should be able to do it as long as they give notice. They…"

"There are a lot of vital records that individuals have and if they just trash a person's belongings, vital records, that becomes even more of a problem for us as Representatives because we have to make sure that we figure out how we're going to get their IDs, birth certificates, and Social Security cards."

"I worked for an alderman's office for 20 years and we dealt with four or five different homeless camps in my… in the ward that I worked in. For 20 years, we've always… I've worked at offices and worked with them and tell them, listen, we're coming. We're posting. We’re going to clean up the area and then we're able to maintain. You know, we've always been… so does that mean if they build a home on the highway, IDOT can no longer clean the embankment of their home?" 10000123.docx 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Am I looking to my left or right. Where am I at? That's a hypothetical. I have never seen a homeless person go on the highway to tent…"

"Well, there's tons of them."

"I see it… I see it over by the… over by the 294 over by Maxwell Street."

"They're on the… they’re on the embankment."

"Yeah, they're on the embankment."

"So IDOT would not be able to clean that anymore?"

"I think that they cannot trash their things, their belongings, absolutely not. This Bill protects that."

"I just… I just am concerned that we're running into… we're putting into language that you can't work with them or that you're not able to clean the area."

"So I think that it's good that you bring up what can IDOT do? Because you're talking about the City of Chicago, and you're talking about IDOT that's connected with the State Department of Human Services. They should be in conjunction with the… all of the departments saying that we have a group of people here that need supportive services. We're going to go over there, let's help."

"Sure. Their… our precinct captain, was a commissioner of human services for the City of Chicago. And we used to go over there and work with them all the time. But there are just some people on Belmont and Kedzie, they just…"

"Don’t want to be moved."

"…don’t want to be moved. And we were fine with that. We worked with that. But they worked with us. We cleaned once a month. They knew that… that we’re coming and there was 10000123.docx 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 whatever was in excess was disposed of. You know, they were able to help them. We helped them pick up… take their stuff. I’m just… I don’t know if this ties the hands of the aldermen."

"It actually doesn’t, Representative. What it really does is asks the aldermen to support the homeless population. That's it. And try to get them connected. Especially in the City of Chicago, there’s a lot of support and help for people with homeless, the population."

"All right. I don’t agree with… I mean, right now we could remove and clean the stuff. I just think you just… now we have… we have…”

“That’s their problem.”

“…right now we have a gentleman that’s living on Kimball and Belmont. They took over the CVS and our wardship pro tem that goes in there and says… tells them, listen, we're going to come and clean next week. And just so I think this will prohibit them from even cleaning. So, all right, thank you."

"Representative Long."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Did you read the Bill?"

"Okay."

"All right."

"Read the Bill."

"I can't believe you're… I mean, this is about the homeless population. And we're worried about our comfort level while we have a homeless person needing some help. And you're worried about Michigan Avenue millionaires. People that shop all the time and you're not worried about the problem that we see before us. And that's a homeless person."

"Sounds like it."

"To the Bill."

"Representative Ford to close." 10000123.docx 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Madam Speaker, I've heard the flaws of the Bill and I will withdraw the Bill to continue to work on it."

"Representative Ford withdraws the Bill. Next up is Representative Fine on Representative Gabel's Bill, House Bill 2617. Representative Fine, you want to move… House Bill 2617. You want to send that Bill back to Second Reading? Clerk, please put the Bill on Second. Are there any Amendments?"

"Representative Fine."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This Amendment to the Bill and the Bill is about fertility coverage for cancer patients. It pretty much just says that… for male fertility, if it's not essential, it is not covered under this legislation. And this takes away the opposition."

"Representative Fine moves the passage of Floor Amendment 2 on House Bill 2617. All in favor say 'aye'… Oh, wait a minute. Excuse me. All in favor say 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Then I forgot to call on people who were waiting with points of personal information. Representative Mitchell, Bill Mitchell." 10000123.docx 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 Mitchell, B.: "Thank you, Madam Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"State your point." Mitchell, B.: "In the gallery I would like to introduce, if he stand up, Mr. Dan Caulkins. Who’s a constituent of mine over for the Decatur area. So, give them… you and I gave Dan a big welcome."

"Welcome indeed. Representative Hays, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"State your point."

"Welcome, Miss Illinois and congratulations. Representative Halpin."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. As you know, Members of the Assembly, today is… township officials of Illinois are in town. And I want to welcome them generally. But I also want to recognize some township officials from my district. I hope they’re still in the back upstairs. From Blackhawk Township, they are a model of responsible local township government as are many of your local townships in your own districts. And I just want to wish them a welcome to Springfield and I hope you take the time to speak with any officials in here from your districts. Thank you so much."

"Welcome. Representative Welter."

"State your point."

"Welcome indeed. Representative Bourne, for what reason do you rise?"

"The record will so reflect. Representative Jesiel."

"State your point."

"Welcome indeed. Representative Breen, for what reason do you rise?"

"State your point."

"Welcome. Back to the Calendar. Representative Guzzardi, are you ready with House Bill 5481? Clerk, please read the Bill." 10000123.docx 107  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Representative Guzzardi."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the Body. House Bill 5481 is a follow up on the evidence-based model that we based transforming the school funding reform. One of the components of that model was pertaining to class size. And we think it's important that we get data about how schools are complying with that model. So this Bill simply requires schools to report data to the State Board of Education about class size. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Guzzardi moves do pass on House Bill 5481. Is there any discussion? Seeing none… Are you… You're not showing up here. Did you punch your button? Representative Breen."

"It is not showing up at the podium."

"All right. And would you like… would you like to speak on this Bill?"

"Feel free."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Yeah. It's my understanding that those organizations have a sort of generic, blanket opposition to anything that might require them to report additional data."

"They do. And in fact over 300 school districts already report this data voluntarily. So they're already collecting and reporting this data, so it won't be any additional effort for them. But this is, you know, again we think class size is a really critical part of the evidence-based model. And so we just want to be able to know how school districts are doing in that area."

"Yeah. It also sets out some goals. It's important to know that these goals, first of all, are not in any way a mandate. They’re simply aspirational. And second of all, that they're less ambitious even in the goals that we laid out in the evidence-based model itself. So these are simply targets that we're suggesting the school districts consider meeting."

"No. As I just said, they’re in fact less ambitious than the evidence-based model. The evidence-based model again expects us to try to meet those over the course of 10 years. And also, I just do want to remind you that these numbers are a goal. They are based on data, but they are not in any way a requirement that our school districts meet these numbers."

"I believe the numbers in the EBM are 15 for the early grades."

"That's correct. That's correct."

"They didn't. Unfortunately, they… I'm frustrated to report that they didn’t offer me any language in this area. I think that we all on… you know, those groups as well, understand the importance of reducing class size. And all we want with this Bill is simply to know how districts are doing in that area. This is information again that over 300 school districts are already collecting. So it will require no 10000123.docx 110  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 additional work of any kind for those districts. And even the districts that aren't already collecting it, it's very minimal additional work for them."

"To the Bill."

"Representative Olsen."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Yes. That is correct."

"They’re not mandatory by any school year, Representative."

"That's correct."

"These are based on national research around best practices for class size."

"Because we think it's important that the Legislature encourage school districts to keep a close eye on this. Our districts… As the previous speaker said, and I think he's absolutely right, we just passed really important new legislation in this area. And one of the things that we're doing is giving districts more money based on… in an effort to get them to reduce their class sizes. But so I think the important thing that this Bill does, and the reason why we need it, is to see, well, are those districts using their money in that way and what has the result been? Are we seeing a diminishment in class size? And how is that affecting academic performance?"

"It's not collected by the state board. There's a tool called ED-360, I believe is the name of the tool. And it's a voluntary tool by which districts can report this information. And over 300 school districts already do this reporting, which leads me to believe that it's not going to require any additional work for those districts. But this is already being done voluntarily by a lot of the districts in our state.” 10000123.docx 112  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

“But we want to… I'm sorry just to finish the answer. We want to centralized database where all that information can exist for every school in every district."

"Thank you, Sir."

"Representative Scherer."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to… I see two young… three young people walking right up the main aisle and I think of them. And the teacher that taught right across the hall from me did her master's thesis on class size. And there’s research all over the place that the single most important factor in a child's success in life is based on class size. So I can't understand any reason why the more data and information we can find out on this, the better off we would be. I'm not saying that any certain school right now isn’t doing what they should do, but for the future we just want to make sure that they know, especially with the changes in our school funding, we want to make sure that the money is 10000123.docx 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 going to a small class size because that's what can truly make a difference. I strongly urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Guzzardi to close."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Thank you to the… my colleagues for the robust debate. Again, the reason for these goals not being mandatory is we wanted to be very careful about not imposing new mandates on our school district. I know that's been a subject of a lot of discussion in this chamber. Again, so this Bill does not impose a new mandate. It simply gives us a target for where we want to go and asks for some reporting to make sure we're moving toward those goals. I think we all agree that smaller class sizes will lead to benefits for our students. We want to make sure that our state is heading down the right track. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Guzzardi moves do pass on House Bill 5481 and on that, all who are in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk… Guzzardi, have you voted? Good job. Clerk, please take the record. On this measure, there are 65 voting 'aye', 45 voting 'no', 1 voting ‘present’. And this Bill, having received the appropriate Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Lang in the Chair."

"House Bill 5627, Mr. Bennett. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Bennett." 10000123.docx 114  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Representative Mayfield."

"Thank you so much. I just want to commend the Sponsor on this Bill. It is an absolutely fabulous Bill. A lot of work went into putting this Bill together. It is totally an agreed upon Bill. We had several subject matter hearings, several conference calls, we brought all of the stakeholders to the table, asked them what, you know, can they live with as far as this Bill. I'm just going to say this Bill is so good that Representative Bennett should be sitting on this side of the aisle. You know, it is truly a good Bill and I recommend everybody please vote 'yes'. This is a really good solution that will help us get some teachers in the classroom this fall. It is not a permanent solution to our problem. We're still working on more long-term issues for our teachers, 10000123.docx 116  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 but this is a really good step in the right direction. So please vote 'yes'."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. There are 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5690, Mr. Halpin. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Halpin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 5690 amends a law from back in 1909 involving a parcel of land in Kaskaskia Commons, which the Illinois Treasurer currently serves as the trustee. So what this Bill does, it would relieve the Treasurer's Office from this duty and transfer the parcel to the Kaskaskia Island Drainage and Levy District. It saves the Treasurer's Office time, which saves the state money. It passed unanimously through committee. I know of no opposition and would ask for a 'yes' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mayfield. Please take the record. On this question, there are 109 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4799, Representative Harper. Representative Harper. Please read the Bill." 10000123.docx 117  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Representative Harper."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm pleased to present House Bill 4799, which would create biking and walking education in the State of Illinois."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"I'm sorry can you repeat that for me, please?"

"Sure. It just simply adds biking and walking education to our current safety education curriculum. And… and it’s just a policy that school boards may adopt. It does not require creating or adding to existing curriculum."

"Sure. The Illinois Department of Transpiration crash data shows that five children are involved in crashes within a mile of school every day. And so what this Bill is doing is simply asking school boards to develop a policy, a plan to instruct students on bike and pedestrian safety as already included in the Illinois learning standards." 10000123.docx 118  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Our Floor Amendment removed all opposition to the Bill."

"No opposition whatsoever."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Pritchard."

"Sponsor yields."

"You're saying how will this Bill affect the finances of teachers?"

"We do not believe that this Bill will put any extra demands upon the school district because the board can choose to provide whatever they wish in lieu of this bike and pedestrian education. Something as simple as showing a video to the class or a special worksheet. It does not require any extra effort I think or money on the part of the teachers to be able to fulfill this requirement. And they can fill it as simply or as… as simply as they wish." 10000123.docx 119  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"I think that all… that any research suggests when people are more educated about an issue then that changes their behavior. And then the behavior that we're trying to affect here is the way kids… the way kids are unsafely biking and walking. And so we want them to have more education around that. And I think that if they do, it will lead to perhaps less crashes and less accidents involving children, right? Because again, our data shows that five children are involved in a crash within a mile of school every day. So whether these children, if they are biking to school, or whether they are walking to school, if we just put a little bit of extra attention on that subject in whatever way that each school board decides to, I think that will train the students on the proper, you know, the proper way to act when in traffic when biking and walking."

"Thank you."

"Thank you. I appreciate that."

"Mr. Riley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Harper, a few years ago we passed some legislation dealing with a concept called complete streets. You might not have been here. But a lot of municipalities in the design features of that municipality take in consideration that streets should be safe, accessible, so on and so forth. In many municipalities all over the country have taken that on. And part of that has to do with bike paths, biking, safe biking, safe pedestrian ways, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So providing for what you're trying to do I think is integral and apropos to the very kinds of ordinances regarding access and safety that municipalities have already come up with. So this is nothing controversial. Matter of fact, you're talking about the schools. The schools in fact have, you know, bike stands for the children coming, you know to school by way of… by way of bike. So I just don’t see anything that you're talking about being controversial, a mandate, new, or whatever else, whatever other, you know, euphemism we can come up with. I think it's integral to a community and community safety. So, I commend you on your Bill and I would ask that everybody to vote 'aye'."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Chapa LaVia. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. There are 96 voting 'yes', 13 voting 'no'. And this Bill, 10000123.docx 121  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Leader Durkin."

"You may proceed, Sir."

"Thank you, Leader. Mr. Demmer. Mr. Demmer."

"Proceed, Sir."

"Mr. Butler."

"Go right ahead."

"Mr. Spain."

"Proceed, Sir."

"Mr. Davis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, not to necessarily belabor the previous… one of the previous speakers, Representative Butler, about our effort last night, but I do want to personally thank all the Members that came out to either just 10000123.docx 127  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 show your support for the bowling event or participate in the bowling. And I really want to thank Representative Mayfield for her 100 that she bowled. Ladies and Gentlemen, give her a round of applause. She boasted about her 78 average and then she came with 100. I'm real proud of that. As well as Representative Jones who is saving his shirts for another event to come up at some point in the future. We appreciate that as well. But more importantly, obviously to Representative Butler for his efforts to galvanize us at this event in order to raise money. And as Leader Durkin talked about using some of these resources to support low-income children going to diabetes camp, as… let me just emphasize that. So if you know young people in your respective districts who are suffering from Type 1 diabetes, this camp is supposed to help, as he indicated… you know, let them have an opportunity to be amongst other children who are dealing with same types of illnesses and situations that they're in. But he also emphasized that this money would be used to help low- income children, children of color, children all throughout the state who are in those communities. So, again, if you know children in your districts, let's bring those names forward so the foundation can consider giving them the opportunity to participate in this camp. And then furthermore the resources that are raised here today, you know, we want to use them for diabetes education across the board so that includes Type 2 diabetes. Giving our communities an opportunity possibly through small grants and that's something that we have to talk about in terms of how we're going to utilize these resources, but maybe there are 10000123.docx 128  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 opportunities with regard to providing FQHCs or other entities in our district, community-based organizations who have the interest in providing more information about diabetes, whether it's Type 1 or Type 2, and giving them a little resource to help push some educational materials out in our district. So, again, the future of this foundation is very bright, Ladies and Gentlemen. And it will continue to be brighter as long as we continue to have events like that and you continue to support the foundations bowling event or anything else that we decide to do relative to raising money. But this is something for all of us to be able to take advantage of. And we encourage you to start putting thought into how we can utilize these resources to better educate our districts and our communities. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker."

"Mr. Jones."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise on a point of personal privilege."

"Go right ahead, Sir."

"My name was used twice incorrectly. Although the shirts on the back of our team was wrong, we were there for the right reason. We have… so let me stand to thank team Bad Ass that bowled last night; Representative Thapedi, Representative Mayfield, Representative Kifowit, Representative Mah, Superman, which we call Rick Colts from Ameren… am I forgetting anyone? And Representative… I think I mentioned Representative Kifowit. We are formerly lodging a complaint. We don’t feel that Representative… I won't say his name, but it's a Representative that looks like me. We don't feel that 10000123.docx 129  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 Representative… that Representative is duly awarded award for shirt that may have been two years ago. So we are lodging a complaint with the association ‘cause we don't feel that that award is proper. But I do… we had the best shirts. I do want to thank Representative Butler and Representative… Leader Durkin and Representative Davis. Many of you know that my brother died from Type 2 diabetes last year and it was… it was hard on me and my family. To look at my brother in the hospital bed, and some of the things that he went through, and the things that he told me in the hospital bed. This time last year, May 12 of 2017. So our shirts not only was a memory towards him, but I believe in this foundation. We were there for the right reason and I'm looking forward to being a part of the Diabetes Caucus Foundation for a long time to come. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Representative Williams."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"You may proceed."

"Excited to announce that tomorrow is the Environmental Lobby Day. Tonight there’s a reception at the Illinois Museum from 5:30 to 7:30 where you can see all the advocates for our environment. Thank you."

Speaker Lang: "Thank you, Representative. Representative Bellock."

"Proceed."

Speaker Lang: "Welcome. Thanks for joining us. Thank you, Representative. House Bill 4583, Mr. Halbrook."

"Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Halbrook."

"Mr. Andersson."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Rita, Chapa LaVia. Please take the record. There are 108 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5683, Mr. McAuliffe. Mr. McAuliffe. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. McAuliffe."

"Before we proceed, we're joined by two former Members of the House, Randy Ramey and Dennis Reboletti, up here on the Republican side. I'm not sure they really deserve applause. Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Rita. Please take the record. There are 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4340, Representative Wheeler. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Wheeler with a W." Wheeler, B.: "Thank you very much. House Bill 4340 expands where the human trafficking notification needs to be and it also changes enforcement to local law enforcement and regulating departments. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady’s Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. There are 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4658, Representative Manley. Please read the Bill. I understand you have a Floor Amendment, Representative. We will place this Bill on the Order of Second Reading and read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Manley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The House Floor Amendment 1… excuse me… removes the requirement of school boards to have the policy which identifies and addresses mental health issues. We worked with the School Management Alliance and removed their concerns with changing it with this Amendment."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4757, Representative Williams. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Williams."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill simply provides that the Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity can withhold 3 percent of funds from the Tourism Promotion Fund… excuse me, I have the wrong fund… from the Local Tourism Funds which go directly to communities rather than the 10 percent that was withheld this year. Thanks to an Amendment we did, this Bill is now agreed with the department. And I'm happy to answer any questions."

"Those in favor of the Lady’s Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Harper. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. There are 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2717, Mr. Welch. Please read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Welch."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 2717 is a Bill that I've been working on for a couple of years. We have tried to address most of the concerns of the opposition in the Bill. We were not able to address all of their concerns because we're at a point of just agreeing to disagree. House Bill 2717 is a Bill that actually helps local communities. Local 10000123.docx 134  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 governments around Illinois save taxpayer money by hiring outside professionals as lawyers, accountants and to help ensure our local tax dollars are collected properly. This Bill would give local governments an additional tool to make sure they are receiving the proper amounts of money from the Department of Revenue submitted by their local businesses. This Bill would make sure local governments can do this in a noncriminal manner. Taxpayer data will be handled more carefully and securely. Contingency arrangements will ensure that local municipalities won't have to pay a dime unless the consultants find revenue not being collected properly. I got involved in this legislation when all of the mayors and communities that I represent signed a letter asking that this be a tool that they be allowed to have. Also the West Central Municipal Conference, an organization that I am very active with, made up of most of my municipalities and then some, are large supporters of this Bill. So, too, are other local government COGs across the state. This is a tool that would help your local community, not hurt it. Issues of confidentiality are specifically addressed in the Bill and would make it better, under the Bill, then it is under current law. I would ask for support of House Bill 2717. I ask Members to vote 'yes'."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"Are there more opponents, you said?"

"There may be."

"There may be. There's…"

"…there's a lot of opponents to the Bill."

"Representative, let me… let me answer that question first by telling you what the situation is under current law. Under current Law the Department of Revenue is sending in the U.S. Mail a CD-ROM directed to mayor’s attention in the local municipalities. And as you know, many mayors are part-time, they have full-time jobs. And these CD-ROMs are sitting on their desk, anyone who goes in and out of their office have access to them. This Bill would stop that practice. We would go to a secure system where it would be encrypted on a website with secure passwords. The Bill specifically calls for confidentiality agreements to be entered into between the 10000123.docx 136  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 municipality and the third party consultants before they would be allowed access to this information. If this third party were to release this information accidentally, intentionally, they, not your local mayor, would be subject to possible prosecution for committing a misdemeanor. And they could also be fined up to $7500. I hope that answered your question."

"Ask me that question one more time."

"So if you go to page 5, I believe in the Bill there's information about the confidentiality agreement that must be entered into and that incidental or inadvertent disclosure of such information to an employee of a county or municipality or to a public official representing that county or municipality in the scope of his or her employment or representation would not be a criminal offense, if they sign that confidentiality agreement. And then the Bill goes on to talk about if they were to breach that confidentiality what the penalties would be for such breach."

"Well, I… I completely disagree with that statement, Representative, because the language clearly indicates that a written confidentiality agreement has to be entered into between the municipality and the third party and the Department of Revenue has to sign off on it. Under existing law, this confidential data is currently being put on a CD- ROM and placed in the mail and is sitting just openly on a desk for anyone to grab it and say, let, me check out and see what's on this this CD today."

"Well, I think if you read the language it's pretty clear that the third party is entering into an agreement with a specific municipality. If these third parties start using a specific municipality's information inappropriately, they 10000123.docx 138  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 would be subject to the breach of the confidentiality and subject to prosecution for committing a crime. They would also be subject to fines of up to $7,500. Under existing law, if someone were to obtain this information, you are right now telling our local mayors that they are the ones committing a crime. That's wrong. These are people who are trying to do the best for their communities under the circumstances that we make them deal with. This Bill actually improves the state of existing law."

"If you don't want to make our mayors criminals, Representative, you should support this Bill because…"

"Representative, I can't speak for that particular company. What I do do… what I'm doing here is speaking up for my communities that I represent. And all of my mayors have signed a letter saying they would like to have this tool available to them and if they were to use one of these companies, they would like to not be considered a criminal. And I'm saying this is good policy for us because our municipalities need to have the additional tools to help them do their jobs."

"This… the attention seems to be focused on a company."

"We need to be focused on giving our municipalities the tools that they need to do the jobs that they do for the residents that we all serve."

"Mr. Fortner."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A question of the Sponsor."

"Sponsor yields." Harris, D.: "Representative, in your opening remarks, did I hear you say that the Northwest Municipal Conference took a position on this Bill?"

"I'm not familiar with the Northwest Municipal Conference. I was speaking of the one in my area the West Central Municipal Conference." Harris, D.: "Okay."

"I also know of several other conferences do support it but not that specific one." Harris, D.: "Okay. The only reason I ask is because the Northwest Municipal Conference is my governmental group in the area. Ladies and Gentlemen, to the Bill, if I may. Every municipality wants to get its fair share of tax revenue, 10000123.docx 143  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 absolutely agree. And let's say you're a small municipality and the Department of Revenue sends you… sends the mayor of that municipality this disc with a whole of bunch of information and they don't really have the staff to go through all of that information. So it might make sense to have them contract with a third party to look at the information and there is a provision for the violation of confidentiality that that third party would be… would be held liable if they violated the confidentiality. So take my town, as an example, my village. There's a large home improvement big box store, Lowe's, that sits right on the border between Arlington Heights and Rolling Meadows. Now Arlington Heights wants to make sure that they get the tax revenue from that big box store. So it would be worthwhile, if they had any question, to have somebody look at that and make sure that that Lowe's is recorded in the district or the village boundary of Arlington Heights, makes sense. Okay. However, this Bill goes a big step forward… a big step forward and I think you need… you need to look at this because the language of the Bill specifically says, and bear with me here, the third party may verify the accuracy of the amount remitted to the municipality. So now we have gone a significant step further. We're not just verifying that that Lowe's in Arlington Heights is indeed in Arlington Heights, we are now giving that third party the ability to reach back into the Department of Revenue to determine whether or not the amounts remitted to that municipality are accurate. So they no longer become an organization or an entity that simply reviews and makes sure that the location is correct and that the money is being sent 10000123.docx 144  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 to the right municipality. Now they can reach into the Department of Revenue to say that the money that was sent is the accurate amount of money which means… which means they need sales data. They need to know how much… how many sales were generated at that… at that retail store. That is an enormous step beyond just simply verifying the location and the retail merchants have said and offered Amendments, we will give you the geographic information, to make sure you can verify the geographic information but again look at this very closely because it's a big, big step from just verifying that the retailer is at that location and the money from that retailer is going to that location. Now that third party has the ability, under this law, to verify the accuracy of the amount being sent. That means going back to the Internal Revenue Department and saying show me the sales data. That's proprietary data; they shouldn't have it. And that alone should be a reason to vote 'no' on the Bill. Thank you."

"Mr. Reick."

"Sponsor yields."

"Sure."

"That's correct."

"I believe that to be correct. Yes."

"It's a little loud in here, Representative. Can you repeat your question?"

"Well, it's the initial responsibility of the Department of Revenue. And what this Bill will allow, it will allow the third party to make sure the Department of Revenue is doing that correctly. We know the Department of Revenue makes mistakes. Several towns have already discovered this and have found hundreds of thousands of dollars of theirs sent to incorrect locations."

"If they have discovered that the municipality that has retained them has… that they're owed money, that it was sent to the wrong town… so, if in one of your cities the Home Depot their money was sent to the wrong one, the town that hired them discovered this, the third party would be entitled to whatever their contingency fee is on that amount."

"That's correct."

"Well… now, keep in mind, this information is being sent to municipalities."

"If a municipality hires one of these companies to go through the information that's being provided by the Department of Revenue and they discover discrepancies, the municipality would initiate the claim."

"It could be.”

"One more time, Representative. Ask me that question again."

"The Department of Revenue submits information to a municipality.”

“Those municipalities know how many businesses are in their towns. They know who should be paying sales taxes. These companies who have an expertise in this area they would go 10000123.docx 148  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 through that information and make sure businesses are paying what they’re supposed to be paying and that the towns are receiving their proper amounts."

"They would get the information from the Department of Revenue, yes."

"Yes."

"I think we put the proper protections in this Bill. I think we've also made a specific point to make sure that a third party uses the financial information in a correct way."

"Well, the language in the Bill specifically prohibits disclosure. If they do it, they can be charged with a misdemeanor criminal offense and charged with fines up to $7500."

"Not necessarily, no."

"Mr. Reick…"

"Mr. Reick, can you bring your remarks to a close, Sir."

"Mr. Wheeler." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Wheeler, K.: "Representative, I'm looking here and I'm trying to understand this from the small business perspective like I always do when we're on the floor together here. Is there a mechanism by which… that an entire return from a business could be turned over to the third party?"

"I am not aware of where tax returns are being turned over to a third party. We're talking about sales tax data…" Wheeler, K.: "Well, that's what I mean the sales tax return."

"and… the sales tax return. And you know, let's be clear here. If the Department of Revenue was doing its job, you wouldn't need these third party companies. If the Department of Revenue was getting this information right and not sending Hanover Park's sales tax receipts to Hanover, Illinois, which is 110 miles south of Hanover Park, we wouldn't need this type of Bill. If the City of Springfield didn't lose hundreds of thousands of dollars and the City of Joliet didn't lose hundreds of thousands of dollars because the Department of 10000123.docx 151  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 Revenue was not… is not doing their job correctly, we wouldn't need these companies. This Bill is needed because the Department of Revenue is not doing their job. And our towns deserve to get the moneys that are owed to them." Wheeler, K.: "Okay. I understand that…"

"That's what this Bill is all about." Wheeler, K.: "I understand what your concept is, Chris. I'm trying to get the idea of is there a possibility based on what you've written here where as an entire sales tax return could be turned over to a third party company?"

"I am… there's nothing in my Bill that allows a tax return to be turned over." Wheeler, K.: "Okay. I guess I'm confused by… when I looked at page 5 lines 9…"

"We're talking about tax receipts." Wheeler, K.: "Okay. But… page 5, 9 through 11 it refers to… to amounts municipalities verifying can the return… now I've lost my spot here. Yeah. Or they can get the entire return. That's the whole point of this process is trying to make sure, in my mind, that we're not turning more data over then we need to and that privacy of the company is still being respected."

"Representative, I think one of the things we really have to stress here, again, currently this information is on a CD- ROM, placed in the U.S. Mail, sent to these mayors and is just sitting there. This information would be in an encrypted system accessible via password, there's confidentiality agreements in place and the Bill specifically says that these 10000123.docx 152  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 companies cannot disclose that the information they receive to anyone else." Wheeler, K.: "Okay."

"Anything they receive would be protected via the confidentiality agreement." Wheeler, K.: "Okay.”

“If they violate that confidentiality agreement they can be charged with a crime." Wheeler, K.: "Then take me to page 4, lines 4 through 9, where it seems to undermine what you just said, Chris. I… there's a lot of back and forth in this with respect to it not being a crime there if it's inadvertent. Well, everything… no one willfully turns over data. It's always inadvertent."

"If you look at lines 1 through 3 on page 2, it ends… well, 2 through 3 as long as the information in any individual return is not disclosed." Wheeler, K.: "Right. Doesn't that negate what I'm referring to on page 4?"

"What's your question?" Wheeler, K.: "I said does that negate what I'm referring to on page 4 the paragraph notwithstanding the first paragraph of the Section the incidental disclosure will not be a criminal offense. Representative?"

"What… what’s your question?" Wheeler, K.: "I'm sorry. What was the answer?"

"What was your question?" Wheeler, K.: "I love this place. My question was does the paragraph on page 4 negate what's on page 2. We can come back 10000123.docx 153  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 to it if you'd like 'cause I guess that we're going to maybe disagree about how we read those things…"

"I don't believe they negate each other." Wheeler, K.: "…in tandem. Representative, this is a contingency based approach rather than a flat fee based approach, correct?"

"That's correct." Wheeler, K.: "I understand there are concerns at least from people I've talked to that if we have contingency fee approach there's going to be an incentive then for this company 'cause there's only one company we’re talking about so far… no other companies have come forward with this service for them to continue to peruse… or to pursue more and more ways to reap this money that actually ultimately put the burden on the business as a part of this process. And that's I guess this is we're upside down on this thing."

"I totally disagree with that because if the Department of Revenue is doing its job correctly they're going to put these companies out of business. You know…" Wheeler, K.: "Okay. Let's talk about that for a second."

"Let's be clear on what the problem is that the Department of Revenue is not doing its job correctly." Wheeler, K.: "So you're saying we’re going to have a competing process for the Department of Revenue that's going to solve the Department of Revenue's problem?"

"No. What I'm saying is we're going to have an extra set of eyes to review what the Department of Revenue is doing to make sure it's being done correctly." 10000123.docx 154  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 Wheeler, K.: "Okay. But a moment ago you just said that if the Department of Revenue did their job correctly we wouldn't need to do this."

"Correct." Wheeler, K.: "So, then we're doing this to solve the problem of the Department of Revenue."

"If they're remitting… if they're remitting the sales tax… taxes correctly, not sending one town’s dollars to another town, we wouldn't need these third party companies." Wheeler, K.: "You're assuming then that every third party business also makes zero mistakes. To the Bill… actually… yeah. To the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, as much as I enjoy working with the Sponsor on his different initiatives, this is one we haven't finished working on that will actually give, like I said, a frame of mind where really any of us I think should vote for it even in light of the fact that our municipalities may be asking for some of this relief. The problem is apparently, according to the Sponsor, has to do with Department of Revenue. We aren’t necessarily solving anything actually at the Department of Revenue in this Bill. So, I certainly request a 'no' vote. And Mr. Speaker, should this Bill receive the requisite number of votes, I request a verification. Thank you."

"Thank you, Sir. Your request is acknowledged. Mr. Harris is recognized." Harris, G.: "Mr. Speaker, I'd like the record reflect that Representative Stratton is excused for the rest of the day."

"Thank you, Sir. Representative McDermed."

"Sponsor yields."

"You know, I hate to admit it, but I do believe that there are some companies that aren't paying their taxes. And one of the things that can be discovered is what companies… what in your particular municipality may not be paying their taxes."

"All of my mayors and the mayors I've talked to said they're just trying to get what their towns are owed. They don't want to be cheated from their sales tax revenue."

"You know, which specific businesses are doing it, Representative, I don't know. But what we want to do to make sure is that we want companies to know that there is a process in place that the municipalities are going to get what they 10000123.docx 156  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 are owed. So hopefully everyone is acting properly and doing what they’re supposed to do and our municipalities receive the must needed revenue that they need to continue to operate and hire their police officers and firefighters and other things that they need to do to run their communities."

"Absolutely."

"No."

"That is my understanding. That is one of the things they would do."

"Yes. I mean, I completely view this as a supplement to DOR. I honestly believe that they're overworked and underpaid and you know, that… you know, they just don't have the staff to do everything that they need to do. A company like this would only help them make sure our municipalities get what they're owed."

"Representative Barbara Wheeler." Wheeler, B.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. There are an awful lot on this side that are against this Bill. I'm glad to hear the previous speaker speaking for the Bill. I just want to correct our analysis that has only opponents listed and no proponents. The local government champions House Bill 2717… Southern Illinois Mayors and… Association, Sutherland Chamber of Commerce, Will County Government League, Cook County, South Suburban Mayors and Managers, Lake County Municipal League, West Central Municipal Conference, Metro West Council of Governments, South West Conference of Mayors, McHenry County Council of Governor's… Government, and more than over 200 local communities and mayors we represent. So I think that's important. I don't know what the analysis says on the Democrat side, but on the Republican side they left off the opponents. I'm sure it wasn't on purpose, but I wanted to makes sure you knew that our local governments are in favor. This is permissive. Many of our governments do this without having to pay any third party organization, but to be able to do it, one of my mayors that was just out on the rail said we don't have the people to hire to find our money from the government. Wouldn't it be great if our department was able to accurately give us our money? Unfortunately, they don’t. We don't have the manpower to hire them. We need this to be available for our community. I am in favor of this Bill. Thank you." 10000123.docx 159  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker, and Members of the House. I rise in reluctant opposition. I know that the Sponsor's intentions are good and I understand why municipalities might think it makes sense, economic sense and other kinds of sense to hire contingency fee lawyers and auditors to help them with tax collections. But I can tell you that the concerns about confidentiality are real and earnest. The concern that what you end up with is multiple requests for changes to the Department of Revenue has led at least one state in the nation to change its mind and say we are not going to permit this any longer. So for confidentiality reasons, and because if you did this without out a contingency fee I think you might get a better result, I would join with the Department of Revenue, the Taxpayers Federation of Illinois, the Illinois CPA Society and all the other organizations including the Retail Merchants and the Manufacturers’ Association. Their data should not be available to people who will misuse it either by breaching confidentiality or in fact possibly by providing for unfair competition. So I would reluctantly urge a 'no' vote."

"Mr. Welch to close."

"Mr. Speaker, thank you very much. I appreciate the discussion we've had here today. I want to remind Members that many of our mayors are actually in town today for Illinois Municipal League Lobby Day. And under current law we are telling our mayors, who are elected to represent their towns, that they are criminals for trying to find money that is owed to their towns. We know the Department of Revenue is 10000123.docx 160  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 making mistakes. The City of Springfield found money that belonged to them that was sent to the county. The City of Joliet found hundreds of thousands of dollars that was incorrectly sent to other places. Department of Revenue sent Hanover Park's money to Hanover, Illinois, only 110 miles separate the two communities. This Bill empowers our local communities to do what's best for them. We talk about local control in this place all the time and it seems to me every single time I bring a Bill that gives local control, we have some that have problems with it. We need to give our villages the power to do what is right for them. That's what this Bill does. All of these mayors wouldn't be here asking us to support it if it didn't. How could we have a law on the books that makes it criminal for them to do their job? This Bill would shift that burden to the private company, if they violate the confidentiality agreement. This Bill would strengthen the law and would place blame on the third party company if they did something wrong, not our elected officials who are trying to do what is best for their villages. They're trying to hire that extra police officer. They're trying to hire that extra firefighter. They're trying to do the jobs that their local people elected them to do. The least we can do here is vote to support that effort. I would ask that you vote 'yes' on this Bill and join me in being a local government champion and vote 'yes' on House Bill 2717. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. As a reminder, Mr. Wheeler has asked for a verification of this vote, should it 10000123.docx 161  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 receive 60 votes. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 42 voting 'yes', 61 voting 'no'. And the Bill fails. Moving to Second Reading Bills, Members. House Bill 274, Representative Mussman. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Mussman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and Members of the committee. So this Amendment basically becomes the Bill. It creates a format under which pharmacists would be allowed to dispense contraception. I'm happy to answer any questions."

"Representative Bellock."

"Leave your light on. Put your light back on. I'll get back to you. Mr. Wheeler, are you rising on this Amendment?" Wheeler, K.: "No. We'll go to Third."

"Mr. Breen, are you rising on this Amendment? Those in favor of the Amendment will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Please hold the Bill on the Order of Second Reading. Representative Bellock is recognized."

"Please proceed."

"Thank you, Representative. Representative McCombie is recognized."

Speaker Lang: "Thank you, Representative. House Bill 4774, Representative Kifowit. Representative Kifowit. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Kifowit." 10000123.docx 163  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I ask for the adoption of Amendment #2. It's a technical change just to clean up a drafting error."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Kifowit."

"Again, this is Amendment #3. When we put in Amendment #2, there was a slight error from the clerk."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5211, Mr. Demmer. Mr. Demmer. Out of the record. House Bill 5440, Mr. Meier. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Meier."

"Mr. Clerk, the Amendment is withdrawn. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5263, Mr. Andersson. Mr. Andersson. Please read the Bill." 10000123.docx 164  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Third Reading. House Bill 4506, Mr. Breen. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 40… Excuse me, Mr. Clerk. Please put that Bill back on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 4332, Mr. Swanson. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Meier for his Amendment."

"Good. Tell us what it does now, Sir."

"Enough, Sir. Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Turner in the Chair." 10000123.docx 165  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"House Bill 5198, Representative Walsh. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Walsh."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House… Floor Amendment #2 is a gut and replace. It leaves the underlying language still there in the… it basically just tweaks the definitions of gasification pyrolysis. I'd move for its adoption."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 5198. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5832, Representative Stuart. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Stuart."

"So the Amendment is just to clarify that it only applies to public waterways and not private."

"Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 5832. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk." 10000123.docx 166  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Third Reading. Representative Arroyo, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed, Sir."

"I meant to vote 'yes' on House Bill 2717. So, it was a mistake on my part, but I really wanted to be a 'yes' vote on that."

"The Journal will reflect your request. House Bill 1664, Representative Conroy. Representative Conroy. Out of the record. House Bill 4420, Representative Davis. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5286, Representative Feigenholtz. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2376, Representative Flowers. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Mr. Clerk, please take this Bill out of the record. House Bill 4278, Representative Kifowit. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." 10000123.docx 167  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Representative Kifowit."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I ask for the adoption of House Amendment 1. It changes the definition of an infectious disease to a disease that has a high mortality rate."

"Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 4278. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4927, Representative Martwick. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5754, Representative Phelps Finnie. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4964, Representative Wallace. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Mr. Clerk, please hold this Bill on the Order of Second Reading. Representative Wallace."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would to Motion to rule the state mandates note inapplicable."

Speaker Turner: "On that Motion, Representative Breen is recognized."

"The Lady motions that the state mandates note be deemed inapplicable. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 60 voting 'yes', 48 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', the state mandates note will be deemed inapplicable. Motion carries. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 127, Representative Willis. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Willis."

"I'd like to adopt Amendment 1. This is the final part of that three part Bill that we were working on. This goes and puts those six locals in what is called the PSEBA, which is the Public Safety Employment Benefit Act. That is the only part it affects." 10000123.docx 169  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Lady moves for adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 127. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4873, Leader Lang. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. This Amendment changes the effective date of the Bill at the request of IDFPR."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 4873. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5110, Leader Lang. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Leader Lang."

"Thank you. This Amendment that comes from IDFPR and it adds certain licensures to the Bill." 10000123.docx 170  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 5110. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Clerk, please read House Bill 5111. Excuse me. Excuse me. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 5110. Please place this Bill on the Order of Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 5111. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Amendment, supported by the Illinois Board of Higher Education, creates a task force to study the… the new ways that we can encourage people to become behavioral health care specialists."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 5111. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

"Leader Currie moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 10000123.docx 171  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 123rd Legislative Day 4/25/2018 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolutions are adopted. Mr. Clerk, committee announcements."

"And now, allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk, Leader Currie moves that the House adjourn until Thursday April 26, 2018 at 11 a.m.; Thursday April 26, 2018 at 11 a.m. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the House is adjourned."