Illinois House Floor Debate — April 26, 2018

"The House will be in order. We shall be led in prayer today by Abbott Austin Murphy who is with St. Procopius Abbey in Lisle. Abbott Murphy is the guest of Representative Breen. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off cell phones and rise for the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance. Abbott Murphy."

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"Roll Call for Attendance. Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record reflect the excused absences of Representatives Gabel and Hernandez."

"Mr. Reick, are you giving us the Republican list today?"

"Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 111 Members present; we do have a quorum. Mr. Harris is recognized." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. And a point of personal privilege as we get started, if I may?"

"You may, Sir." Harris, D.: "Thank you. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I'd like to put into the record today that Joliet Junior College in Joliet is one of only six… one of only six programs nationwide that received the National Association of Agriculture Educators Outstanding Postsecondary… Adult Agriculture Education Program. That's one of only six in the 10000124.docx 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 nation. The award was made in December of last year. So, congratulations to the folks at Joliet Junior College. Thank you."

Speaker Lang: "Thank you, Sir. Representative Hammond is recognized."

"Please proceed."

"Congratulations. House Resolution 951, Mr. Meier. Please proceed, Sir."

Speaker Lang: "Congratulations. Thank you, Mr. Meier. This Resolution has already been adopted. We're happy to have you here with us today. Mr. Ford is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to also congratulate the volleyball team because, as a father of a eighth-grade girl that plays volleyball, I know it is not easy. The volleyball teams… that's a tough sport. And I think that all of you will probably beat me in a heartbeat on the volleyball court. So, congratulations because it's not easy being a champion of a volleyball team. Thank you."

"Moving to some Second Reading Bills, Members, Second Reading Bills. House Bill 5757, Representative Bristow. Please read the Bill."

"This Bill will be held on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill… House Bill 5282, Representative Bristow. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Ladies and Gentlemen, we may be switching back and forth between Second and Third Reading- Bills. So, please pay attention for your Bills. House Bill 4412 on Third Reading, Representative Ammons. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Ammons."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 4412 is a effort to ensure diversity in senior management of the State University Retirement System. There were notes put on it that I wish to rule inapplicable. None of them have a fiscal impact and they've all been returned."

"Representative, this Bill's already on Third Reading."

"Oh, yes. Thank you. I'm sorry."

"So, this is not a concern."

"Thank you, Sir."

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"So, this initiative was designed to ensure diversity at the senior management level of the State University Retirement System. And I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes. That's…"

"That's correct. That's the system that I represent in the 103rd."

"That's correct."

"No. This Bill gives oversight. As the State Legislature, gives oversight and financial resources to the five public pension funds… the largest one certainly I'm looking at here… and requires that they do everything in their best interest to ensure diversity at all levels of representation in the State University Retirement System."

"He is not compensated. It is not germane to adding and ensuring that people of color are included, specifically 10000124.docx 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 African-Americans, in senior management of State University Retirement System."

"Mr. Wehrli."

"Sponsor yields."

"Well, the picture that I would see of the administration wouldn't be lacking diversity. It's a very basic premise. I can pull the data from all of our state agencies, as well as our pension funds, and tell you that diversity specifically for African-Americans is lacking across the board. This is specifically dealing with inclusion and wanting to make sure that whoever the trustees are, whether it's my husband or any other person, that they don't walk us back to 1950 and find ways to exclude African-Americans from all of these positions." 10000124.docx 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Certainly we can take it visually. We can take it demographically. We can ask them to do reporting, which I've not done."

"Excuse me? This is not about the board. This is actually about senior management."

"In committee, I believe they said eight or nine people."

"There… there are 10 people listed as senior management. What we measure success is progress from having similarly one person of color to maybe more than one person of color."

"It certainly would. I didn't give them a number to reach."

"Mr. Batinick."

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"I don't remember what his testimony was."

"I don't recall what his testimony is."

"There was one African-American executive director."

"Mr. Davis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Simply, to the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, if more effort was put into being diverse in a lot of these areas, legislation like this wouldn't be necessary. 10000124.docx 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 Now, what I've heard is that people trying to pin her down on what that number is. Is it one; is it two? What if it was half? Would you be okay with that? And the chances are you wouldn't be okay if we said half. You know, it should bear itself out some kind of way. But the reality is that, unfortunately, in a lot of different sectors… and we see it all over the State Capitol… it's unfortunate. We see it in staffs. We see it in agencies. We see it in departments. That's why we ask those questions because of what we don't see. So, as much as the directors and people who run all of these departments, if that part of their real desire in terms of running the agency was to make sure that it was diverse and that it was reflective of individuals throughout the entire state, again, legislation wouldn't be necessary. We wouldn't have to run Bills to make sure that we are being inclusive. It wouldn't be necessary. But unfortunately, when we don't see the effort to try to make those things happen, legislation follows. So, for those of you who don't like to see this kind of legislation, then let's work together on the front end to make sure that across the board that these kinds of initiatives are in place to make sure that we have fairness. When I say 'we', I'm talking about people of color, African-Americans. That there is fairness in all of these different agencies. And I think we've seen examples that, unfortunately, in this Capitol, particularly racism still exists. I'm told about a situation with a person in the Senate mailroom who used the 'n' word to refer to one of his colleagues just this past week. So, it exists. So, let's just 10000124.docx 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 be sensitive to our efforts to try to make sure that inclusion is paramount in what we do. Thank you."

"Representative Ammons to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you to all the speakers on this legislation. The intention is this. If it already exists, this would not be necessary. If it was already being implemented, it would not be a piece of legislation that I would work on. I am working on this because it is still, unfortunately in 2018, a very measurable… measurable demonstrable need. And therefore, this legislation is before you this morning. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members, please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 70 voting 'yes', 26 voting 'no', 5 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Mr. Martwick."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise on a point of personal privilege."

"Proceed, Sir."

"Thank you. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, if you are… find yourself with a little bit of free time today, I would encourage you to look up illinoistimes.com. There is a very fascinating article that involves the gentleman standing to my left here. Many of you might know him as our staffer on pensions, labor and gaming, Joe Miller. He was featured in the Illinois Times because he recently completed a 100-mile 10000124.docx 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 race. He completed that race in the course of 24 hours without stopping. And pretty amazing, the first 50 miles that he ran he ran it at 9 minute per mile pace, which I'm able to run a hundred miles it would just take me 4 or 5 years to complete it. He did it in 24 hours. Joe also recently won the Springfield Marathon and he finished third. So, there were 47 people that started this 100-mile race. I believe only 17 of them finished and Joe took third place. So, congratulate him. A warm round of applause for Joe Miller, our staffer."

"Congratulations, Joe. Thank you, Mr. Martwick. Mr. Olsen is recognized."

"Proceed, Sir."

"Thank you and welcome. We're glad you're with us today. Thank you, everyone. Ladies and Gentlemen, a couple of announcements from the Chair. First, the Bills that are on Short Debate I'm going to keep on Short Debate. Second, I'm 10000124.docx 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 going to be using the timer. We have a lot of Bills to go through and as you may remember, tomorrow's the deadline. So, to be fair to every Member, to get through as many Bills as we can, we're going to enforce those rules. And finally, every Bill on the Calendar on Second Reading has been read into the record. So, we can run your Bills from Second to Third and then pass them. So, please be available and aware when your Bill is up. The next Bill is House Bill 5104, Representative Ammons. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Ammons."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There is a House Floor Amendment that needs to be adopted on this Bill."

"So, do you wish to move this Bill back to Second Reading? I do not think your Amendment 3 is out of Rules yet. But I can moves this back to Second or keep it on Third, as you wish."

"I want to keep it on Third."

"Mr. Clerk, out of the record. House Bill 2063, Representative Bellock. Please read the Bill. It's on the Order of Second Reading."

"Representative Bellock."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill for a third time."

"Representative, please hold one second. The Chair recognizes Leader Currie for an announcement."

"Thank you. Please add Representative Turner to the excused absences list for the remainder of the day."

"Thank you. Representative Bellock on House Bill 2063."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all 10000124.docx 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members, please record yourselves. Harris, Hoffman. Winger. Please take the record. There are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5029… excuse me… House Bill 2040, Mr. Breen. House Bill 2040. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Mr. Breen."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Breen."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Carroll, Crespo, Feigenholtz, Moeller. Please take the record. There are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5029, Representative Bryant. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Bryant."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Davis. Please take the record. There are 109 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is 10000124.docx 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 hereby declared passed. House Bill 1338, Mr. Carroll. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Carroll."

"Yeah. This is a… this… this Bill basically is looking at the disposal of different medications and just hoping to make sure that we're safely disposing of things."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Carroll."

"Yeah. Just, again, we're looking at how different medications are disposed of. And making sure that it's done properly in a way of making sure the environment stays safe."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting's open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5177, Representative Kelly Burke. Please read the Bill." 10000124.docx 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Burke." Burke, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 5177 permits Chicago police retiree pension members or it… it allows… permits the Chicago police annuitant and… benefit fund to reconsider an application for service credit for certain of their members who took a leave of absence from the Chicago Police Department to work… to do investigative work for Cook County, the State of Illinois or the Federal Government. Again, it's not… does not guarantee any benefit, but provides these officers with an opportunity to have a rehearing that due to a quirk in statute does not allow them today. It's a limited group of people. I… again, it's supported by Lodge 7, Chicago FOP. And I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Breen."

"This Bill will be moved to the Order of Standard Debate. You have five minutes, Sir."

"Sponsor yields."

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"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Ives."

"Mr. Skillicorn, your time… the time to… has expired on this Bill. Representative Burke to close." Burke, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will just make a point that COGFA had requested the pension impact note from the fund some time ago. They've had plenty of time to answer if there was going to be an adverse impact and they have not. And we will double check my assertion about the employer-employee and if there is a discrepancy, it is certainly something that we can… the Sponsor can look at in the Senate. I appreciate the discussion and I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? DeLuca, Thapedi. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 77 voting 'yes', 30 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5558, Mr. Carroll. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Carroll."

"Yes. Thank you. This Bill just provides that every mental health and developmental facility post in public areas contact information for the Guardianship and Advocacy 10000124.docx 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 Commission. And the agency… and it's under Section one of the protection and advocacy for persons of the Developmental Disabilities Act."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Burke. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4685, Mr. Connor. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Connor."

"Yes. The second Amendment it… to this Bill took care of some liability and immunity issues that were requested by the Trial Lawyers Association. I'd ask that…"

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Connor."

"Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen of the chamber. In April 1997, I lost my younger brother, Matt Connor, to malignant melanoma. He did not catch it early enough. And as a result, 10000124.docx 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 it had reached Clark's stage III by the time he was diagnosed. This Bill asks that schools allow children to bring sunscreen and sun protective clothing to school without requiring a doctor's prescription. And my hope is, is that with this legislation in place, schools will not hesitate to allow children to protect themselves so no other family has to go through the loss of a child, and a brother, the way my family did. I'd ask for an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"That is correct."

"Yes."

"I would call it a no-brainer as well."

"Okay."

"Correct. That's it."

"Thank you." 10000124.docx 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Representative McDermed."

"Mr. Brady."

"Sponsor yields."

"Most of my communication was with SUNucate, who has run similar Bills here and the Society of Dermatological Surgeons. And it basically had to do with the idea that they were requiring prescriptions. I don't have numbers here in Illinois, but I do know other states. Some of the schools got skittish and were requiring prescriptions."

"For what reason, I don't truly understand."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Scherer. Please take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4887, Representative Cassidy. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Cassidy."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 4887 is an initiative of the Foster Care Alumni Association of America and is a very simple piece of legislation that… that puts into our statute the right of these youth who are in our care to, at the time of emancipation, receive… Mr. Speaker, it's really, really loud. To allow these youth in care, at the time of their emancipation, to receive all of their identity documentation, all of their medical history, all of the history of… of their time in our care so that they can begin their adult lives with everything they need and not have to spend time reconstructing those documents. I know of no opposition and I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"No, they are not. This is their current practice. And they support the idea of this being our… an ongoing practice."

"Which is what is seen as best practice. Yes, we are codifying that."

"No. That's simply among the menu of documents that might be associated with one of these youth. And if that… if that documents exists, they should have a copy of it."

"Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Burke. Kelly Burke. Please take the record. On this question, there are 109 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3909, Representative Conroy. Representative Conroy. Out of the record. House Bill 5599, Representative Conyears- Ervin. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Conyears-Ervin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the General Assembly. Parents with children need child care to work. The Child Care Assistance Program has allowed many working families, and single parents, to have affordable child care while they work to make ends meet. We should help parents who are working to provide for their families. This Bill does not expand income eligibility beyond the current statutory level of 185 percent. So this Bill will cost us no additional funds. What this Bill does is prevent in the future the devastation that occurred to the Child Care Assistance Program in July of 2015. I will answer any questions at this time."

"Mr. Breen."

"The Bill will be put on the Order of Standard Debate. Please proceed, Sir."

"I'm sorry. The Sponsor yields, Sir."

"Unless the Members of the General Assembly approves otherwise."

"So, back in 2015, Representative, the Governor cut child care assistance where nearly 50 thousand children across the State of Illinois, 25 thousand families lost child care assistance. In addition to that, we have small businesses, our day care providers that did, in fact, close because of that stand still."

"Neither one of those organizations have reached out to me."

"Good question, Representative. As I mentioned in the introduction, this is the current statutory level today, so there will be no additional cost."

"I don't have that information regarding the other states."

"So, in statute, they're still allowed to raise copayments, create waiting lists or take such other actions during a fiscal year as were necessary to ensure that the child care benefits paid under this Article do not exceed the amounts appropriated for those child care benefits."

"Mr. Halpin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. One of the things I think this Bill addresses… to the Bill, I'm sorry… is that there's an uncertainty among people that are eligible for this program now because they haven't had… because they've had this bad experience in the past where the Governor unilaterally makes this decision. We need to encourage people that are eligible for this program to participate in this program. We need to… we need to encourage providers that are providing these services to use this program. And right now, they're afraid 10000124.docx 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 that these kind of cuts can happen at any time. So, I strongly encourage support of this Bill."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 75 voting 'yes', 31 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Davis is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. May I have a brief point of personal privilege?"

"Of course, Sir."

"Thank you. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I'd like to welcome a group of women from the south suburbs. And they are the Democratic Women of the South Suburbs for their annual Lobby Day. This is their fifth year doing so. They're behind me in the gallery, if they would please stand. With them are Sheree Henry and Sheena Patton. And they also have students from Bloom High School, Bloom Trail High School, Homewood- Flossmoor High School, IIT, Perspective Math and Science Academy, Rich East High School, Rich Central High School and Thornton High School, all in the south suburbs. Please give them a great round of applause."

"Welcome. Thanks for joining us on the House Floor today. House Bill 4512, Representative Conyears-Ervin. Please read the Bill."

"Excuse me, Mr. Clerk. Out of the record. House Bill 4513, Representative Conyears-Ervin. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Conyears-Ervin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the General Assembly. House Bill 4513 is an opportunity to address the lack of jobs and unemployment that exists in certain communities or areas of poverty. By requiring construction companies who receive state contracts to allow 10 percent of the man hours to be performed on the construction project by individuals who will reside in areas of poverty. I will answer any questions at this time."

"Mr. Breen."

"Already on Standard Debate."

"Please proceed."

"Sponsor yields."

"Right now, Representative, that is not being tracked. So, we do not have that answer."

"It's not all these agencies. It's IDOT and Capital Development Board."

"If they work on state construction contracts, I guess so."

"Actually, that would be great, Representative, if those living in the poverty stricken areas would have access to prevailing wage. This intent of this legislation would mean those individuals would be able to actually rise out of poverty."

"So, actually, that was not one of the objections. And we believe that this will help to fix the problem of poverty."

"So, after this legislation is passed, we can work to provide that if you would like."

"I don't have it on me right here today, no. And actually, we're asking CMS to do that, which is a part of this legislation."

"And that research is a part of this legislation. That is what CMS will be providing."

"That is what the Bill states." 10000124.docx 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Mr. Wheeler." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Wheeler, K.: "Representative, how are you?"

"I'm good. Thank you." Wheeler, K.: "Good. Good. I have some questions for you. Looking through our analysis… excuse me the… there's a phrase in here about where practicable. Can you help me understand how that's going to be interpreted and what the definition of that is?"

"So, the reason that we have that in the legislation is because the agency will really need to define 'to the extent practical', so they will be able to defend 10000124.docx 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 their stance on the contract as they do now for any other goals they have." Wheeler, K.: "Okay. So, if I'm a contractor and I want to bid on a particular contract that is being offered by CDB or IDOT, right. Those are the two agencies you're trying to work with here?"

"Correct." Wheeler, K.: "Then I've got to be able to understand how I'm going to meet these guidelines and whether or not it's practical or not and how I'm going to navigate those waters with workers that I already have under my contract or I have the to pull out of labor hall or where am I going to get them? Help me understand how that would work from the contractor's perspective. How would I bid that?"

"So, just like any other legislation in the past, Representative, that's new, you have to work through it. The agency and the contractor will be able to build that relationship and be able to identify those parameters." Wheeler, K.: "Well, here's… here's my… here's my concern. When you're bidding on a contract, you don't get to have a relationship with IDOT or the management team or the consulting team. They give you a set of plans and you've got to figure out how you're going to accomplish what those plans dictate you're going to do in the time frame given. And whether you're going to use your own staff you currently have employed or you have to pull in other staff that will affect what your price is going to be and how you're actually going to do this job. So, understanding how this would impact that 10000124.docx 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 is going to be vital for contractors in the real world to understand how they actually try and be in compliance."

"So, first off, Representative, meeting goals is not new to contractors. Second of all, meeting goals should have nothing to do with the price as far as staffing goes for the contractor." Wheeler, K.: "I differ on that. Being a former contractor, having your own staff be able to do something you work with for years to understand their skillset, okay, versus people that you don't know and have to train and get acclimated to how they approach things, they're different. You cannot use the same team mindset 'cause you're bringing people in. And that's part of reality."

"I disagree with that, Representative." Wheeler, K.: "So, again… What's that?"

"I disagree with that." Wheeler, K.: "Well, I did that. And as I'm trying to figure out how this would work. I'm not… I'm not trying to put down the goal of what you're trying to accomplish. I'm trying to figure out how we can actually do it. So, I mean, there's other ways we…"

"And just like you've done that, Representative, and I respect that, I've worked with plenty of contractors in my prior employment so I understand as well. And I do disagree with you." Wheeler, K.: "Okay. Then you're effectively implying that any contractor can hire anyone to do the job, pay some same prevailing wage and the job's going to turn out the same either way. That's not…" 10000124.docx 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"That's your statement, not mine." Wheeler, K.: "What's that?"

"That's your statement, not mine. I'm not implying that." Wheeler, K.: "Okay. I'm implying… I'm trying to interpret what you just told me because I'm saying that if I can't use my own team I've got to hire a new team. Then, frankly, I can't accomplish the same thing the same way. That's just common sense. So, we'll see. I'm trying to understand how would a contractor interpret this in trying to and comply with what your goal is here. That's my question. And then what penalty would…"

"The goal is to… to provide opportunities for those that are in poverty stricken areas to be able to gain willful employment. That is the goal." Wheeler, K.: "I agree. I understand the goal. I'm talking about the legislation presented and how we achieve that through this. It seems like to me it's not quite ready for a contractor to be able to use what's in front of us to practicably put together. I just used the exemption word. That's why I was asking what that exemption means and how it's defined so that people would understand what they're really up against and they could actually try and comply with what you're doing. That's my… that's my question really. So to the Bill. I do laud the Sponsor's approach and the goal of putting people to work in poverty areas that need those opportunities. There are many efforts we tend to take that are bipartisan in how we accomplish those things. Yes, we need more success in those areas. Yes, we need to keep working 10000124.docx 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 together to do that. I intend to work with the Sponsor in future opportunities. Unfortunately, this particular version to me doesn't quite come together the way it needs to. Thank you."

"Mr. Riley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, there's been some… some statements made that I just want to clarify with you in terms of the intent of your Bill. One that was said was that a census tract is… was a very small area and, I guess, the inference was that there was a lot of information that's very difficult to get. Wouldn't you agree with me that a census tract is not that small? A census tract is about, roughly speaking, 4 thousand people."

"That is correct, Representative."

"And a census tract isn't even the smallest denomination in terms of a census area. We have census blocks, block phases and so forth. Isn't that correct?"

"That's correct."

"And the issue about poverty, which is really abject poverty, areas that have been at a particular poverty level for 30 years. I would hazard a guess to say that there are many places on the… on the west side of Chicago that at least in the last 30 years have been at that poverty level that you state."

"That is correct as well as many areas downstate Illinois." 10000124.docx 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"And frankly speaking, the ability to get this information just isn't that difficult. You're talking about CMS providing this information. And I'm sure that CMS has programs like ArcGIS and ArcInfo and you could actually go to American FactFinder, which is a census website, and probably get this information and put it in the form of a map. So, it would be that difficult for a state agency as large as CMS to get this information."

"That is correct."

"Isn't that correct?"

"That is correct."

"Thank you very much. To the Bill. This is a good Bill. It's a great start. But not only that is that we know that there are areas in this state, certainly in the City of Chicago, but as the Sponsor said all over the state that have been in abject poverty for a long period of time. But that's one of the things that narrowly tailor her legislation. This is a good Bill. And I hope you will join me on voting 'aye'."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, when contractors have contracts with the State of Illinois, this is… this is not anything new as far as goals are concerned. So, I guess that question would apply, what are contractors doing today if they have a female or minority goal? I mean, I don't know. And that person moves out of the State of Illinois, not able to work and they have to go find another possible female or minority. I just don't really see this being any different than any other goals contractors are able to meet."

"Correct."

"I'm speaking about the workforce."

"Okay."

"No. I'm speaking about the workforce when I'm talking about apprenticeship goals."

"So…"

"No. So, first of all, Representative, that is the intent of this legislation that the person that you hired is now able to come out of poverty. And we would hope that you will be able to find another individual, in your example, that will be able to fall within these guidelines."

"But also… but also understand…"

"Okay."

"Mr. Wehrli."

"Representative Wallace."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"So, because there's been so much discussion of hypotheticals and what would be considered outliers what exactly does your Bill require?"

"So, House Bill 4513 states that contractors that receive state contracts be able to allow 10 percent of the man hours to be performed by those that live in poverty stricken areas where 20 percent or more of the individuals had lived at or below 150 percent of the poverty level for the last 30 years."

"So, it is state contracts, not any random small business. You're asking small businesses that wish to do work, using the peoples' money, to implement this guideline." 10000124.docx 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"That is correct. This is legislation for the people of the State of Illinois."

"Thank you, Representative, for bringing this. To the Bill. The arguments, again, are not about what is actually in the legislation. The legislation says that if you wish to do work receiving taxpayer dollars that you should also be wishing to make the economy around that work stronger. Individuals who live in poverty are also taxpayers. They're actually more burdened by the taxes that we place in our regressive tax-based system in the State of Illinois. And we say on this Bill that we shouldn't have some intentional measures to make sure that they are lifted out of poverty. There was also the argument about small business versus big business, however, most of the businesses in the United States of America are small businesses. Most of the businesses in the U.S. are small businesses. And that means that then the small businesses also have a responsibility to make sure that we're not walking away from particular communities completely divesting from those communities impacting the over burdensome unemployment rate of African-Americans particularly African-American men. And this is one measure that is intentional about undoing the intentional forms of discrimination or the legacy of that discrimination that we see today. So, I ask that everyone vote in support of this particular measure. And I, again, thank Representative Conyears-Ervin for bringing forth the measure that is about putting individuals back to work. It is about trying to address the attitudes that we know we can't legislate, but we can certainly set a standard that says discriminatory 10000124.docx 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 attitudes and practices against individuals in poverty or individuals of particular racial or ethnic groups is not going to be tolerated if you're going to do business with the State of Illinois and if you're going to use the peoples' money. Thank you."

"Representative Conyears-Ervin to close."

"I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Kelly Burke. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 61 voting 'yes', 47 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5689, Mr. Costello. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Costello."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Floor Amendment 1 represents a compromise between the mining industry and labor. I ask for its adoption and makes it an agreed Bill."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Costello."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Bill codifies Federal Law for mining and it puts us on parity with all other states in the United States. I ask for an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Mr. Wheeler." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Wheeler, K.: "Representative, we had a pretty good discussion about this in committee with some testimony and other things that we got to… the goal here is an agreed Bill, which you think you have now. Is that correct?"

"It absolutely is. It's agreed between the mining industry and labor. And as I said, this Bill codifies what all other states in the United States do as far as mining safety." Wheeler, K.: "So, we're thinking of a miner safety Bill and making Illinois actually more competitive in some respects?"

"I would absolutely say so. It puts us in parity with our surrounding states." Wheeler, K.: "Excellent work, my friend. Vote 'yes'. Thank you."

"Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Burke. Stratton. Please take the record. On this question, there are 109 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having 10000124.docx 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1190, Leader Currie. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. Under current law, cities can operate combined water and sewer systems, but sanitary districts can't. And what this measure does is to say that a sanitary district may operate a single combined system. This comes to us from the south… South Stickney Sanitary District. Their concern is they have the same employees doing the work on both systems, but it makes for more paperwork, more red tape. And it seems to me that this would be a good solution to the problem. It doesn't require anybody to operate a combined system, but it makes it possible for by ordinance existing sanitary districts to do so. I'd be happy to answer your questions. I'd appreciate your 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 108 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 128, Mr. DeLuca. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. DeLuca."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Now, Amendment #2 is still in Rules. Is that correct?"

"Mr. Clerk."

"Okay. I move to adopt Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 128."

"A brief explanation, Sir."

"This is the Bill that would allow the state… it would allow the Village of Crestwood to use the property for private purposes as opposed to public purposes."

"Those in favor or the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Do you wish the Bill to go to Third Reading, Sir?"

"Yes. Move it to Third, please. Thank you."

"Third Reading. Do you wish the Bill called again? Do you wish it called…"

"Not at this time. Thank you."

"Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 5347, Mr. Evans. Out of the record. House Bill 5000, Mr. Frese. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill." 10000124.docx 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Mr. Frese."

"Representative Ammons."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Frese, can you explain again why we would bypass the process in this regard. What are you trying to do with this?"

"So, they would get the full… they would get the redacted copy of the report without having to submit a request for the redacted copy of the report?"

"All right. Thank you so much for clarifying that."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Evans. Harris. Stuart. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Returning to House Bill 128, Mr. DeLuca. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Mr. DeLuca."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, we had previously conveyed state property… State Police property to the Village of Crestwood to be used for public purposes. They now wish to use it for private purpose. And that's what this legislation authorizes them to do. The way it's worked out that any of the proceeds, after the expenses that Crestwood would incur, would be split with the State of Illinois, 50- 50. There will be another Amendment coming. The change will probably be made in the Senate that the 50 percent that would go to the… the 50 percent that would go to the state is now going to be directed to the Capital Development Board to be used for capital within the State Police. So, that will be the change that will be made in the Senate."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"That's correct. That would be part of the… the change."

"Yes. And the change that will be made in the Senate is it will be specific to the Capital Development Board."

"So, yes. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Davis. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 109 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4949, Representative Feigenholtz. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Feigenholtz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, House Bill 4949 is an initiative of the Illinois Behavioral Health Association designed to get unscrupulous actors out of Illinois. It amends the Consumer Protection Act. And I'm happy to answer any question."

"Mr. Breen."

"Standard Debate is approved. Continue, Sir." 10000124.docx 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Sponsor yields."

"Correct."

"Well, I…"

"Yes. The magic of geolocation on our computers allows companies who advertise to direct certain information to residents of the State of Illinois. And I also would like to mention, Representative Breen, that these are… this is a… a not… there's no opposition to this Bill. This is an industry that wants to define who they are and as you know, this is a national trend. Many states have enacted this and there are all kinds of disclaimers and disclosures on websites. And the industry supports that. So, I just want to be clear that this is a self-directed profession wanting to get unscrupulous actors out of substance abuse treatment that are predators, which is why they're putting them in this Act."

"For Illinois residents."

"I believe that it… what we're requiring…"

"Yes."

"Well, the print would be very small. It would be a small font, but you know, they would have to include it." 10000124.docx 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Yes."

"These are substance abuse treatment providers out of state, not Illinois licensed."

"Please answer the Gentleman's question?"

"I don't really know what the question was, Speaker. I… I think that Representative Breen is asking questions that 10000124.docx 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 are legitimate, but I believe I've already answered them. I think that this is a self… a self-guided… you know, I'm… no legislation we do here, Representative, is perfect. And we are here to remediate. This is an initiative of substance abuse providers and have… who have worked closely with the Attorney General's Office. I'm not sure what your concern is."

"Mr. Breen, your time has expired. Mr. Andersson is recognized."

"Mr. Demmer."

"Sponsor yields."

"Correct."

"Representative Demmer, if you read the Consumer Fraud and Deceptive Practice Act of this Bill, the Section… the first Section of the Bill… I'm not sure that the Attorney General's Office, who will ultimately be the arbiter of whether or not a practice… a business had… has created a 10000124.docx 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 deceptive act, is going to, you know, put handcuffs on a… on somebody who hasn't included a zip code."

"Mr. Wheeler." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Wheeler, K.: "Representative, I just want to clarify one thing. With respect to the language regarding the in (c) regarding any marketing, advertising, promotional or sales materials 10000124.docx 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 directed to Illinois residents. The intention is to use some kind of geolocation feature to know where they are, right?"

"Correct." Wheeler, K.: "So, it's not your legislative intent to say that it would be outside if you're outside… if an Illinois resident is outside of the State of Illinois, that you're trying… and make that a loophole situation. You're just trying to say that any Illinois resident wherever they… in the State of Illinois because we can't know if they're outside the State of Illinois. That's…"

"Correct. There's no way of knowing if… if somebody… if you're an Illinois resident outside of the state, and you're on the internet, you're not going to get this pop-up." Wheeler, K.: "Exactly. So, where it says… when it says directed to Illinois residents, we're not trying to make that distinction? We're trying to…"

"That's correct." Wheeler, K.: "That's my goal. Thank you very much."

"Representative Feigenholtz to close."

"Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen. I think that we've had many robust conversations about this. I appreciate the comments of Representative Demmer and he has… and the caucus has my commitment that we will continue to work on this. The effort is to really try and make sure that our families, who are in desperate need of substance abuse disorder, go to appropriate licensed providers and not get stuck in a web of predators. Please support the Bill."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? 10000124.docx 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. There are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4146, Representative Fine. Mc. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"And the Bill will be held on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 456… Excuse me. House Bill 5202. No. The Chair's in error. House Bill 4516, Representative Fine. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Fine."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This legislation would provide relief for families who have children that require hearing aids. What it does is it requires insurance… health insurance to cover one hearing aid per ear for every child under 36… under 18 years old every 36 months."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"Correct." 10000124.docx 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Yes. We were able to come to some agreements on what could be covered and what could not be covered."

"And working with the insurance industry, they looked at what… what other states do and this is how we came to this conclusion."

"Correct. This was… as if it's medically necessary, then it would be done."

"Thank you. I appreciate it."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Lilly. Please take the record. There are 108 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, 10000124.docx 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5202, Mr. Ford. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I move for the adoption of only Floor Amendment #2."

"Do you wish to withdraw Amendment 1, Sir?"

"Yes, Mr. Speaker."

"Mr. Clerk, Amendment 1 is withdrawn. Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Ford on Amendment 2."

"Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, Floor Amendment #2 becomes the Bill. And it will establish the creation of a Youth Budget Commission."

Speaker Lang: "Representative Ammons, do you rise on this Amendment? Please leave your light on. Mr. Breen, do you rise on this Amendment?"

"You are recognized."

"Yes."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 5202 creates the Youth Budget Commission with the purpose of creating a yearly analysis of a state budget across the six development goals that's stable, safe, healthy and educated, employable and connected that all youth need to build an exceptional life. The Youth Budget Commission will utilize the fiscal scan to advise the Governor, the General Assembly and the state agencies on a ways to improve, expand existing policy, services, programs, and opportunities for youth and young adults age 8 to 25. The Bill has been worked out. There's no opposition. I move for passage of House Bill 5202."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Crespo. Please take the record. There are 107 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Representative Ammons."

"Thank you, Mr. Chair. I rise on a point of personal privilege." 10000124.docx 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Proceed."

"Thank you. Behind me in the gallery, on the Democratic side, if the students would stand, from the University of Illinois who are in the gallery right now. We passed a Resolution that says the University of Illinois is one of the world's best research institutions in the nation. And today, is Research Institution Day and we want to acknowledge our students from the University of Illinois, who have a display in our Capitol today. And acknowledge them for their excellent work in research that they do, not just for our state but for the world and particularly for me in the 103rd District who has built a strong internship program with students of the University of Illinois. And I bring to you today our students that are visiting with us in the gallery from the University of Illinois. Welcome them… welcome them to their State Capitol."

"Welcome. Thank you for joining us today. We appreciate it. House Bill 5341, Representative Gordon-Booth. Out of the record. House Bill 1439, Representative Gordon- Booth. Out of the record. House Bill 5196, Representative Greenwood. Please read the Bill."

"Ms… Representative Greenwood."

"Am I speaking on the Floor Amendment? I'm sorry, Mr. Speaker."

"Floor Amendment #1." 10000124.docx 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Okay. Floor Amendment #1 made no changes to the underlying Bill. It simply reiterated the language."

"Those in favor of the Amendment… saved by Mr. Breen. Do you wish to speak, Sir?"

"Well, the Lady wants… she just moved 1."

"And we'll see what happens on 2."

"The Clerk is nodding his head, yes."

"Those in favor of Amendment 1 say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Greenwood."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment #2 changes the license renewal fee for paraprofessional educators from $50 to $25."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Greenwood."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the Assembly. House Bill 5196 deals with the license renewal fee for paraprofessional educators changing the current fee from $50 to $25. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Carroll. Connor. Feigenholtz. Moeller. Flowers. Please take the record. There 109 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4771, Representative Hammond. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Hammond."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Hammond." 10000124.docx 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Riley. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr… Leader Durkin is recognized."

"Go right ahead."

"Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Durkin. House Bill 5721, Representative Harper. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Harper."

"I move to adopt the Amendment which just makes some technical changes in the language to clear up opposition."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Breen, I apologize. I did not see your light. Did you have something you needed to say?"

"She said it was a technical Amendment, Sir." 10000124.docx 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"We'll find out. The Bill's on Third Reading. Mr. Clerk…"

"…please read the Bill."

"Representative Harper."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am pleased to present House Bill 5721 which simply makes changes to the CPS Facilities Planning by requiring more community input, more transparency and budget accountability. I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Breen."

"Of course."

"So the… no. The opposition that I was trying to clear up with the Amendment was with the charter schools and not with CPS. And I do understand that there still is some opposition from CPS, which the nature of the Bill, they're just going to oppose it anyway. And we are actually continuing to talk as the Bill goes through in the Senate and there may be some more changes in the Senate." 10000124.docx 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Sure."

"So, the Bill's specifics include simply that all schools be notified if there is a considered action. Meaning if there are going to be school closures in the community, it also asks that there be community hearings and even an input process on a CPS capital budget and building repair needs. And it also provides that CPS consider accommodating the special academic needs of schools to prevent utilization rates that may penalize strong academic programs that just have unique population needs."

"Representative Ives."

"Representative Wallace."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"So, this Bill is an initiative of a community-based organization?" 10000124.docx 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Yes, it is."

"And what was the emphasis of that organization coming together, Blocks Together, Chicago?"

"Well, the leader of that organization and myself are both mothers who live in a Englewood community who had six of our schools close without any input from us in a neighborhood that already suffers from a host of other negative things."

"And so, in Englewood, you said there were six schools that closed. I believe in Bronzeville there were… do you know how many schools closed in Bronzeville?"

"No, I'm not sure of that number, but they've also gone through a rash of school closings. And what's happening is the leadership of Chicago, because we don't have an elected school board, is choosing to go neighborhood by neighborhood and doing… and completing what we call racist school closings."

"I was going to… to get to that because this is happening in particular neighborhoods on the south and to some degree the west sides of Chicago."

"Only the south and west side of Chicago, Representative."

"So, in districts or… I'm sorry… in schools where the overwhelming number of students are black and Latino, those neighborhood schools are the schools that are being closed?"

"Yes. And CPS loves to use under enrollment as an excuse, but as we're seeing, they're closing schools in neighborhoods which population now… population is… is increasing very fast. And they're even closing level one fully enrolled schools where students are… have the highest level of academic 10000124.docx 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 achievement. The only thing that's different about these schools is that they're predominantly African-American."

"Okay. So, yeah, I was actually going to ask that because there were some discussion on the other side of the aisle about the school district being able to do what's best based upon a number of issues which might include an… an achievement and other things. But we're seeing that across the board there's really one factor, or maybe two actually, the race and ethnicity of the children who are at the school and the socioeconomic level of the community that those schools sit in. Would I be wrong in that assertion?"

"You're correct, Representative."

"Thank you, Representative, for indulging me. To the Bill. There's a lot of irony when the discussion becomes a discussion that can support Chicago Public Schools, which we just heard from the other side of the aisle. But it's extremely frustrating to know that we have children in the largest school district in the state who cannot walk to a neighborhood school because their neighborhood school has been ripped away from them without any input from the local individuals who live in that community and in that neighborhood. We know that schools are anchors to communities. When schools close, then we see other things start to close such as stores. They're economic drivers, our schools are. And it also then impacts what the real estate looks like in that particular area and before long you have a very destitute neighborhood and a very destitute area. And it is of my opinion that this happens because some individual, some families, some communities, are looked upon as 10000124.docx 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 expendable. And their voices are intentionally silenced. There's no such thing as silent people, but there is such a thing as peoples' voices being intentionally silenced and because of that intentional silencing, this legislation is necessary to amplify the voices of the women, the children, the parents of those communities that deserve to have a neighborhood school that these children can walk to. And it is for those reasons, and the underlying reason of the racism and the classism that has existed in this particular system of school closure, that everyone in this chamber should vote 'aye'."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Lady yield?"

"Lady yields."

"Representative, according to the analysis, it says that House Bill 5721 requires additional information regarding Chicago Public Schools. So, your analysis also states that it is already State Law. Currently, it is State Law that CPS is required to produce an educational facility master plan every five years. So, what you're doing is currently State Law already and you're adding to it."

"That is correct, Representative."

"Because when it was first done, the problems that we are experiencing now we did not have. So, you're adding to State Law and… and basically as a taxpayer, who fund the Chicago Public Schools, you should know about the dirty, filthy schools that our children are being forced to go to as a taxpayer. And… and you should know that. And… and you should 10000124.docx 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 know what the school board is doing to correct that. Am I right?"

"You're right."

"And is… is this Bill addressing some of those issues? Are you trying to address the access to transportation? Other school districts are still reimbursed for the transportation with the tax dollars from the State of Illinois, but for some reason the school districts on the south and west sides of the City of Chicago those parents are no longer reimbursed and neither is transportation reimbursement or transportation for these students. Our students are forced to walk in a so- called safe school zone. And there's nothing safe about it, not even the sign is safe because we've seen some of the signs shot up. Am I right about that?"

"You're correct."

"And so, as taxpayers of the City of Chicago and we have to send our children to these schools, we should have some input. They should respect the taxpayers of the State of Illinois. So, with that being said… to the Bill, Ladies and Gentlemen. This Bill is… this legislation is, quite frankly, already current law and my colleague… our colleague is adding to with an organization that have come together from the south and west side of the City of Chicago, and other parts of the City of Chicago, for what is best in the interest of our children, not what is best in the CEOs and the contracts of the Chicago Board of Education want to give to their friends and families. So, I'm asking you to respect what it is that we would like to have in our school districts the same way you want us to respect what it is that you know that is needed 10000124.docx 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 and important in your school district. And I would urge an 'aye' vote. And thank you, Representative, for this legislation."

"Mr. Andrade, the number of speakers in favor of the Bill has already been… we've already reached our limit, I'm sorry, unless you're speaking in opposition."

"Okay. I just have a concern with the language."

"You may ask your question. The Lady yields."

"I just… real quick. The Sponsor yield?"

"She yields."

"On this Bill, it just says create a request proposal for joint use of the school within intergovernmental rental or other outside entity rental. My concern is other outside entity rental. I just… I would really like to see when it goes over to the Senate that there be a description… a definition of outside rental entity because that could be for-profit. It could be… I just don't want a… I do not want our… our schools being opened up to the public and being who knows what that entity rental is. I just want it very clear that that's a very grave concern of mine."

"I understand your concern and that's something…"

"Thank you."

"…that we can further define in the Senate. Thank you, Representative."

"Representative Harper to close."

"This Bill is designed to have district leadership work with schools that have low enrollment and not wait until it's too late. I am hoping to continue to work with CPS to put the needs of our students first, but in the face of no elected 10000124.docx 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 school board in the City of Chicago, this is something that we have to do to protect our most vulnerable students and parents. I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members, please record yourselves. Yingling. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 79 voting 'yes', 28 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4096, Mr. Harris. Please read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. Mr. Harris, you have a Floor Amendment. We'll move the Bill back to Second Reading. Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, G.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Floor Amendment #1 becomes the Bill. It removes the opposition from the managed care organizations. It sets a sunset on the… on the Bill. I know there is still a concern from the Department of HFS, which we have agreed to discuss in the Senate. I would ask for your approval."

"Representative Bellock on the Amendment. She does not wish to speak. Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill." 10000124.docx 80  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Mr. Harris." Harris, G.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This issue addresses the preferred drug list in the Medicaid system as we move into managed care. It sets minimum floors for the preferred drug list. MCOs… the individual MCOs are free to add above that list as best suits their client's needs. We had… as I said, the Amendment addressed concerns of the MCOs. It removes their opposition. Director Norwood said this morning she had… still had some concerns. We've agreed to work on those in the Senate. I would ask for your support."

"Representative Bellock."

"Sponsor yields."

"The Bill is on Short Debate, but I'm going to give Mr. Demmer the remaining time that Representative Bellock didn't use." 10000124.docx 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Sponsor yields."

"Please complete your answer, Sir." 10000124.docx 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 Harris, G.: "That would not detract from what the state is currently getting."

"Mr. Demmer, your time has expired, but I'll let you complete your comment."

"Mr. Harris to close." Harris, G.: "Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen. I think this is important for our constituents to guarantee continuity of care and access to drugs, particularly for folks who have, you know, highly specialized diseases or behavioral health concerns, cancer, epilepsy, HIV, heart disease. I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 70 voting 'yes', 37 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1940, Mr. Hays. Mr. Hays. Please read the Bill." 10000124.docx 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Mr. Hays."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Hays."

"Mr. Wehrli."

"Sponsor yields." 10000124.docx 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Currie. Flowers. Jones. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 109 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4278, Representative Kifowit. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Kifowit."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 4278 provides for a comprehensive notice in our veterans homes to include infectious diseases that have a high mortality rate in the elder populations."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Harris, Hoffman. Please take the record. There are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4836, Representative Ives. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Ives on the Amendment."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Ives."

"Mr. Riley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Ives, I see that there's opposition from DHS. What… what's their opposition all about?" 10000124.docx 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Well, you know, there's a number of types of facilities."

"You know, there's the state facilities, IC/FDDs, CILAs and so forth. Would this be considered a CILA?"

"So, what… okay. Go ahead."

"Would DHS be… you know, still be responsible for oversight like they are over CILAs with this?"

"Okay."

"Thank you."

"Representative Willis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Jeanne, can you just clarify one thing on this. So, if you have a home that has three individuals in it but not… and this Bill passes… they would still be able to get those services. You're just saying that the home can expand the number of people that live in it up to… is it five? Is that what your Bill says?"

"Okay." 10000124.docx 88  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Right."

"I understand that."

"My question is I just want to make sure that we don't increase the home to be able to get the assistance. It won't matter. The lower…"

"…threshold can still always be there."

"It will never… so, it doesn't say they have to have…"

"…a higher number in order to qualify?"

"It just says that they have the option…"

"…if they feel they're able to handle more, they can take more in, correct?"

"I never thought I'd say this, Jeanne, but I really like your Bill and I support it. So good luck with it."

"Mr. Ford."

"Mr. Speaker, will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Jeanne Ives, now that you have my attention…"

"…I have a question for you. Does this Bill only serve DuPage County or Cook…"

"And there was no way you could get the… the department to support your Bill, the Department of Human Service?"

"And… and with the adoption of House Floor Amendment #2, if this Bill does not pass or become law, what happens to the… your… the clients?"

"So, they would not be able to bring private insurers in or Medicaid?"

"Okay."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Andrade."

"Mr. Speaker, will the Lady from Wheaton yield, please?"

"Lady yields."

"Representative, as I sit here and hear the Bill, I've always had a great relationship with you and this… I know your… this is your last term and I just wanted to… it wasn't a request personally. I thought I was hearing Greg Harris speak for a second there, if I close my eyes. So, I just wanted to say I stand in support of the Bill. And if you may, there's not many Bills I can join you as a chief co, but if… if you can put me on as a chief co on this Bill. I think this 10000124.docx 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 is a great addition to help the disabled. Thank you very much."

"Thank you."

"Representative Lilly. Lilly."

"Will the Sponsors yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Thank you. Representative, with this idea, is there an accreditation body that keeps the home up to standards and review so that the… the family member or the client is in a safe environment?"

"With that, what is DHS opposition, again? I'm sorry."

"Okay. I just asked the question 'cause it is…"

"…when you have CILAs, you have these accreditation bodies that just really kind of protect the child. But I'll… I'll wait to see what DHS real opposition is. Thank you."

"Representative Ammons."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Thank you. Can I clarify how the additional revenue would be used for this program, if this Bill is passed and signed into law?"

"Did I hear you say that this would allow us to get additional revenue for this program?"

"So, this doesn't do anything about increasing the base pay of the workers for the developmental services area of… for these families?"

"How… how many families are impacted by this Bill?"

"So, this Bill would impact a small group of people that will be paid basically in their own home for these services… of their family member. In essence, that's what this Bill would do."

Speaker Lang: "The Representative's time has expired. Representative, will you continue… complete your answer."

"Representative Ammons, your time has expired. Representative Flowers, we have completed our debate on this Bill. Representative Ives to close."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Harper. Mah. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 93 voting 'yes', 13 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5069, Representative Jesiel. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Bellock on the Amendment." 10000124.docx 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Jesiel."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. There are 109 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5309, Representative Lilly. Representative Lilly. Out of the record. House Bill 4927, Mr. Martwick. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Martwick." 10000124.docx 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 4927 requires the Chicago Public Schools to provide copies of teacher evaluations to the Chicago Teachers Union within 7 days after issuing the evaluations. This would put the Chicago Public Schools in line with other school districts who are… turnover teacher evaluations as part of the RIF reduction in force policy. I know of no opposition. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Breen is recognized."

"Sponsor yields."

"And I apologize, Representative. I… I looked at this yesterday and that wasn't there, but it's there, today, so."

"So, I can't honestly answer the second half of your question. The first half is, is the assertion that you make is correct. Any teacher can provide it voluntarily and you can do anything you want voluntarily. School districts outside of CPS have a uniform reduction in force policy. And so, as part of that reduction in force policy, those teacher evaluations and ratings are turned over to their unions as part of that process. CTU… or CPS has a different reduction 10000124.docx 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 in force system, but it does take the ratings into account for the order of dismissal. However, the… the notice for the layoff can come before…"

"Well, Representative, the evaluations are used as part of the reduction in force process, right. So, that is a labor issue, right? And so, the union would be representing the teachers that are being reduced."

"Please complete your remarks."

"Mr. Martwick to close."

"So, the rest of the teachers in the state their evaluations are turned over to their unions as part of the reduction in force process. That is part of the labor process so that the unions can represent the members that are being 10000124.docx 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 reduced. CPS is not required to turn those over before the reduction in force. This, by getting the evaluations to them timely, they can be used in conjunction with it. It just helps the union represent their members during these reduction policies, which is… that's what we're here for. That's what the… that's what the whole point of the… of a labor union is supposed to do is just stand up for their members. So, this just puts CPS on par with every other district in the state. It's something I've been trying to do with some other measures as well. So, I would respectfully ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Greenwood. Mayfield. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. There are 90 voting 'yes', 18 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Returning to Representative Lilly's Bill, House Bill 5309. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Lilly."

"Yes. I'm looking to adopt Floor Amendment #2."

"Brief explanation."

"Yes. We… it was some language cleanup and we added some definition to the word 'hospital'."

"Mr. Breen does not wish to speak. Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk." 10000124.docx 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Lilly."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. I'm… this Bill came to our Body from a revenue rally hosted in my district. And one of the constituents thought it was an idea that would help the budget line item for our great state. It prohibits the state agencies to grant bonuses and prohibits them to grant bonuses to employees and contractees."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"You are."

"Representative Wallace."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Thank you. Representative, was there any… what were some of the reasons that you felt necessary to bring this Bill forward? Was there any agency controversy that might've informed the need for this Bill?"

"When our constituents FOIA our information about our budget and how it is implemented and they look at the ticket of what we're spending in different departments and different agencies they question these millions of dollars that go to line items beyond what was budgeted and it was explained to be bonus structure. I'd just like to clarify, the departments can have bonus structure; they cannot use taxpayer dollars to implement the bonus. The taxpayer is indicated they can't afford to pay bonuses because we have no money to do so. The Governor has introduced a budget with $1 billion worth of cuts. The taxpayer is saying to the Representative we can't 10000124.docx 102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 afford bonuses, which… averages up to millions of dollars to the different departments within the state."

"Thank you. I seem to recall there was an issue with the Department of Children and Family Services around gift cards and investigations were… was that considered a bonus?"

"It would fall under that category, yes. And that was… there was questions about the implementation and the cost and the parity of that program."

"Thank you. To the Bill. Unlike this idea that this has some impact on the First Amendment right to free speech, or an individual's autonomy as to whether or not they want to join the union or other form of organized employee unit while they're working for the State of Illinois, I don't believe that that is the impetus. The impetus is the fact that we actually lost children on our watch, children died when investigators when… within the Department of Children and Family Services were competing for gift cards which were the carrot for closing out cases or for saying that certain things had been accomplished within a case. And as a result, our DCFS was embroiled in a large scandal last spring. We now have a different director, but we can't bring back those children who were impacted by this idea of racing to get some gift card or some bonus. I would encourage support for this Bill throughout the chamber. Please vote 'aye'."

"Mr. Davis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"I… I think in reference to the Floor Leader from the other side and his characterization of this particular Bill with 10000124.docx 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 regard to merit increases and things like that, is there a distinction to be made between a merit increase for an employee versus a bonus as you are thinking about it, Representative?"

"Thank you, Representative. The distinction is a merit increase is what you earn from your merit and your performance and your evaluation. A bonus would be on top of that merit that you have received."

"So, you're trying to… in this particular Bill, you're trying to limit or eliminate bonuses, correct?"

"I'm trying to eliminate a structure… a bonus structure that the taxpayer cannot afford."

"Okay. And relative to… how would I describe it… relative to costs that may be associated with this, what is your estimation about how much those bonuses may cost the State of Illinois?"

"Each department that we have here in the State of Illinois, millions are being attributed to performances that we're already paying for. So, it's millions across the state."

"Millions of dollars?"

"Yes."

"Particularly in… now, while I don't necessarily feel this way that the state is broke, as many people like to characterize it, but I know we've got some financial difficulties. So, in the midst of our financial difficulties, here's an opportunity to save the state millions of dollars that could then be reinvested in the state to do some of the necessary programming and… and other things that I think we'd like to do as a Body, correct?" 10000124.docx 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"That is correct."

"Okay. To the Bill. I appreciate the Representative bringing this forward. And I hope everyone can understand the intent. It's not an attack against state employees or nonunion state employees to prevent them from working hard or what have you and I think there are pay structures that come along with that. But again, as she's trying to… identify and define bonuses are something on top of that. And as much as we… and I'll say we even on this side of the aisle, but particularly on that side of the aisle… are always talking about how we should not be doing certain things with money. There's a lot of back and forth, but here is an effort to say, well, here are millions of dollars that could be put in place or put in other programs or do other things with or saved. I mean, right now, we are facing a $1.2 billion shortfall from the previous years when the Governor, instead of working with the Legislature, in the right way, decided that… he didn't want to pass a budget and wanted to spend that money anyway. So, now, we've got to figure out how to fill that hole some kind of way that he created. And so far there's no… how would I describe it… nothing coming from his office or his administration relative to trying to fix and fill that hole. So, I'm of the opinion, particularly in this case, if there's a way to save a few million dollars, then why are we not talking about ways to save a few million dollars? And if there's a need to better define what a bonus is versus a merit increase, then, fine, let's work with the Sponsor, move this Bill out, send it over to the Senate and continue to work on it so we can have the better definitions. It's just saying so 10000124.docx 105  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 this is an attack against nonunion state employees that we don't want them to work hard and ultimately achieve additional resources as a result of that hard work. I don't think that's what this is about. And I would encourage a 'yes' vote."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, what is real clear is from the idea of the revenue rally is we, the state, the people, can't afford to pay bonuses on top of salaries. What's happening within the departments is not a uniform process, not a monitored process, not a parity process with the bonus structure. So, I'm not sure if they can at this time or not. This particular Bill says the bonus structure can exist, but you can't use taxpayer dollars to do so."

"Well, when the people are saying we can't afford to pay bonuses, and salaries, and resign bonuses and all of those, I would call, expenses, it's difficult. We have no money. We have a budget that's cut $1.4 billion. We have to figure out 10000124.docx 106  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 how we can continue to meet the needs and the services that we're currently providing. And I understand your point, but the people are saying they cannot afford it."

"Representative Bryant."

"Sponsor yields."

"We haven't necessarily addressed that, but that is some of the reasons why this Bill is coming forth."

"Mr. Reick, for her remaining time."

"Sponsor yields."

"With those cost savings be not… not… that sounds private sector. Would those dollars be considered taxpayer dollars?"

"This piece of legislation brings forth bonus structure being dollars… taxpayer dollars being used in bonus structure. What you describe, and if it's private dollars, then it's… it's okay. But we're talking about taxpayer dollars not being used for the bonus structure."

"So, that's an example."

"No. I'm just… I am… I am answering your question based on what I'm understanding you're asking me. If it's private dollars, then they can have a bonus structure with the private dollars, yes."

"As I'm understanding university, those are endowments they have dollars by private entities supporting those and they… that's how they handle that particular structure."

"I don't understand."

"We have already had three people speak in favor of the Bill and three people in response. Representative Lilly to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. The people…"

"Turn on Representative Lilly. Thank you."

"Thank you, Speaker and the Body, and thank you for the questions. The people of Illinois cannot afford to pay bonuses on top the salaries. We do not have the dollars here in the state. The Governor introduced a $1.4 billion cut. We need to 10000124.docx 110  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 be able to pay the employees that are here what they are due. It is important that we can keep our services to the people afloat. The… the tax people have spoken. We cannot afford to pay bonuses. Please 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Evans. Flowers. Riley. Please take the record. There are 64 voting 'yes', 45 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5308, Representative Lilly. Want a second one? Out of the record. House Bill 4404, Representative McDermed. Please read the Bill."

"Representative McDermed."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Wallace. Please take the record. There are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4882, Representative Mayfield. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Mayfield." 10000124.docx 112  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Thank you so much. This Bill just makes a slight change to the Grow Your Own Program that allows them to use their existing funds for dual credit programs. There are no additional state funds that are being used in this program. It's just a allocation for their existing dollars."

"Mr. Hays."

"How does what work?"

"I cannot give you all the ins and outs of Grow Your Own. You'd have to call the director."

"You'd have to call the director for an A to Z on the program."

"I'm running the Bill for a very specific portion of the Bill… of the program, not the entire program. I'm not looking to make massive changes to the entire program. My… Grow Your Own is an education program that allows low-income students to obtain an educators license. So, what this Bill that I'm running allows them to do is to use some of their existing funds for dual credit courses. So, that when their students graduate, they will graduate high school with an associate level degree. They only do two years of college with Northeastern Illinois and then they're able to graduate and become teachers within a two-year versus a four-year university period because they will be taking two years of 10000124.docx 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 college courses while in high school. That is… so, my Bill just makes it simpler for them to do that."

"Yes."

"Correct."

"Well, those… if a student is enrolled in dual credit courses, all of their courses are then transferred into a college…"

"…into a four-year university. Right."

"And there are several… schools across the state that offer dual credit courses."

"Okay. Well, for the education program through Grow Your Own, there is a partnership with Northeastern Illinois University where they will take those dual credit hours that they earned while in high school, apply them toward an educator license and then after two years at Northeastern, they can become teachers."

"That is why there's a partnership with Northeastern Illinois to ensure that the credits that they are taking are transferrable. That is why you have to partner with a… a university that offers that same program because otherwise you're just taking courses for the heck of it and you need to take courses that are going to be able to directly transfer over."

"Northeastern."

"You need a bachelor's degree to become a teacher."

"When you graduate high school… on a dual credit course, you will have half of a requirement. So, you'll basically had graduated with an associate's degree. You then apply those credits that have already been pre-negotiated through Northeastern, so you knew which courses you needed to take in order to get the appropriate credit hours for your educator's license. So, you're not just taking any class. You're taking very specific classes for an educator's license that have already been predefined through the program."

"I guess, I'm not understanding."

"Please bring your remarks to a close, Sir."

"Please a brief answer. The Gentleman's time has expired."

"Okay. No, there is nothing different because you actually have to… the community college that you would have normally went to is actually the one that is certifying the classes. So, you're still getting your credit hours through your local community college. In my area, it will be the College of Lake County. That's our community college. So, all of our dual credit courses are registered through our community college. A fee is paid to the community college, so they're not losing any money. And then, the student just doesn't have to do those two years after high school. They can do them while they're in high school and then it just shortens the amount of time, the amount of student loans they have to take out, all of that to become a teacher. We're just trying to streamline that process so to get kids involved earlier into becoming teachers and finding a mechanism in which they can do that."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"I have not had any conversations with the Board of Education. The organizations themselves has done a lot of restructuring. So, I believe that they had to put a lot of controls into place based upon their conversations with the Board of Higher Ed…"

"…as far as how they were administering their programs, their grants, that type of thing."

"So, I believe that's in place already…"

"…outside of this Bill. This Bill has nothing to do with that."

"Okay. In defense of the program, I would just like to say that they did not have control over the funds. The money from the General Assembly did not go directly to this program. It went to the grantee. So, the grantees would apply. The money went to the state… to the Board of Education… the higher board… the Board of Higher Education. The money went into 10000124.docx 118  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 their pot. The grantees then applied to the Higher Board of Education. They did not apply to Grow Your Own, but Grow Your Own had to take the brunt of the mismanagement from those programs, even though they had no oversight over those particular programs. They did not control the money that went to them. So, I believe that was part of the conversation that you had brought up earlier when you said that the Higher Board of Education was having conversations with Grow Your Own. And it is my understanding that things have been put in place to address those concerns so that Grow Your Own would have more authorization over the programs even though they are not the dispensers of the money, the Board of Education is. And they really should have had some more checks and balances in place since they were administering the money."

"Well, they haven't done it now, which is part of the problem. And one of the things they're saying, they cannot put anything more restrictive then what's already there. I would just like to point out that for our education programs we have a 63 percent fail rate for… for our individuals who go through the complete four years of college to become a 10000124.docx 119  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 teacher and that is doing the traditional program. What Grow Your Own is trying to do is put something in place to ensure that when children graduate from college they will already have a majority of the skills that they need. They will not need to take remedial math. They will not need to take remedial English or have other assistance because they're going to be there on the frontend to ensure that these children have all the tools that they need to be successful going into the career. Sixty-three percent fail rate in a traditional program is not acceptable. It is totally unacceptable. Many of the students cannot pass the test. Grow Your Own is trying to put a program in place to ensure that the students can pass the test."

"Mr. Wehrli."

"Representative Greenwood."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to stand in support of this legislation and talk about specifically the East St. Louis School District 189 was a recipient of the Grow Your Own program. And as a result, we have produced approximately 10 teachers who are currently working for our school district. So, we find that the program works. And it is successful in providing a pipeline for teachers of color and minority teachers to represent the classrooms in which they serve. Also, Representative Mayfield, is there any opposition from IBHE?"

"There is absolutely no opposition from the Illinois Board of Higher Education. In fact, I'm not sure what's showing on your analysis, but Jamie Ray, from the board, has indicated that she meant to slip in support of the Bill not opposition. So, the former speaker's statement that IBHE should have been part of the conversation, that they had issues, is not accurate. There is no opposition from the board, especially from IBHE. This is a good Bill. It prepares students, and it saves money for both the students, the taxpayers and their families."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Representative Mayfield to close unless that was your close."

"I recommend a 'aye' vote. This is a really good thing we're doing."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Ammons. 10000124.docx 122  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 Crespo. Please take the record. There are 63 voting 'yes', 47 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Fine is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to introduce my two very special Pages of the day and their mom. This… I think most people know Shiva, my chief of staff, who is here today, and graced us with the presence of Ashkaan and Kiyan. So, keep them busy today. They're great kids from Glenview. So, please welcome them to the House Floor."

"Thanks for joining us. Good to see you. Thanks for coming today. House Bill 4742, Representative Mayfield. Representative Mayfield. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Mayfield."

"Okay. This Bill allows for third-party substitute teaching within our school districts. The second Amendment that we put in removed CTU and IFT opposition from the Bill. This Bill does not… school districts… I'm sorry. The genesis for this Bill is that we are… we really cannot find subs for some of our schools. So, what this Bill would do is that it would allow for third-party substitutes. So, that means that a… an employment agency, essentially, could go out and do the recruiting, do the background checks. They would pay for everything, essentially, find these teachers and then, only if the school district desired to use them, there is no mandate here, there's no pressure anywhere that says that you 10000124.docx 123  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 have to do this, then they will be allowed to use these teachers. I'll look for questions."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Mayfield, did you just explain the Bill?"

"I just explained it."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourself, Members. Guzzardi. Kifowit. Rita. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 90 voting 'yes', 9 voting 'no', 9 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4247, Mr. McSweeney. Out of the record. House Bill 5573, Mr. Mitchell. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Mitchell." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This is a clean-up Bill to the… following on the crime victim's rights Bill that we passed after the Amendment a couple of years ago. It's an agreed Bill as far as I understand. The Amendment that we adopted a few days ago 10000124.docx 124  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 removed the opposition of the State's Attorneys Association who were concerned about the order in which a support person would have to be called. So this basically does a couple of quick things. Creates two new rights for crime victims: the right to not have substantive issues heard or decided at status hearings, the right to have a support person present and eligible to testify at trial, a process for advocates to testify, and then also clarifies some definitions. I want to thank everyone in committee for their help and support. I want to thank Representative Cabello for his advocacy in helping with this. It's an initiative of the Attorney General. And I would welcome any questions."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields." Mitchell, C.: "Yes."

"Mr. Mitchell to close." Mitchell, C.: "I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Moylan. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. And the Majority Leader in the Chair."

"Representative Moeller, are you ready on House Bill 5164? Out of the record. Representative Moeller, are you ready on House Bill 5163? Out of the record. Representative Moylan, are you ready on House Bill 1620? Are you ready? Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Moylan."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the General Assembly. House Bill 1620 simply caps the amount the Tollway Authority can charge a vehicle with a small trailer. I met with the executive director. They were… are attempting to come up with another category. And I will… I plan on 10000124.docx 126  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 addressing that in the Senate. And I respectfully ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Moylan moves do pass on House Bill 1620. And on that, Representative Lilly."

"Point of personal privilege."

"Wait until the Bill is done and we'll get back to you."

"Yes, Ma'am."

"Representative Fortner."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Correct."

"Correct." 10000124.docx 127  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Right."

"Correct."

"Representative Moylan, do you need to close or shall we just go to the vote?"

"Yes. Just ask for an 'aye' vote, please."

"On House Bill 1620, all in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk, please take the record. On this Motion, there are 104 voting 'yes', 3 voting 'no', 3 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having 10000124.docx 128  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 reached the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Lang, are you ready on House Bill 1336 on Second Reading? Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Lang."

"Thank you, Mr… Madam Speaker. This Bill… Amendment becomes the Bill. If we could discuss it on Third Reading."

"All in favor say 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Lang."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. Some time ago we authorized private cars doing ambulance services in local communities. There are some such of those cars in my community. This Bill would say that if a private car was in an accident the car insurers cannot increase their insurance rates or cancel their policy solely… solely because the vehicle was involved in an accident while responding to a call as a volunteer EMS provider. I don't think there are any opponents to this. I don't recall any in committee. I would ask your support."

"Representative Lang moves do pass on House Bill 1336. All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all 10000124.docx 129  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 voted who wish? Clerk, please take the record. On this measure, there are 109 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Lang, are you also ready on House Bill 4873? Representative… please read the Bill."

"Representative Lang."

"Thank you. The Amendment… oh, we're on Third Reading. I'm sorry, Madam Speaker. When we passed the Payday Loan Reform Act some years ago, which was agreed with all the advocates, and all the parties, and the Attorney General at the table, it was required that there be verifiers. These are folks that make sure the proposed loan agreement is permissible under the Act. And it was allowed that they charge a fee. This simply increases that fee slightly because their costs have increased greatly. We're not making any changes in the Payday Loan Reform Act. We're not making any substantive changes that affect borrowers, just a small additional fee. Ask your support."

"Representative Lang moves do pass on House Bill 40… 4873. Seeing no discussion on that Motion, all in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk, please take the record. Representative Lang… on this measure, there are 48 voting 'yes', 57 voting 'no'. And Representative Lang moves for 10000124.docx 130  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 Postponed Consideration. Representative Phelps Finnie, are you ready with House Bill 5754? Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Finnie."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This Bill allows DOC… individuals who worked in DOC that have taught to then be eligible for principal endorsement. This was a part of the Code but was taken out in 2011. We're just asking that this Code be put back in."

Speaker Currie: "Is there any discussion? Seeing none, Representative Finnie moves do pass on House Bill 5754. All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk, please take the record. On this measure, there are 109 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this measure, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Meier, are you ready on House Bill 5440? Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Meier."

"Representative Meier moves passage of House Bill 5440. And seeing no discussion, all in favor vote 'aye'; 10000124.docx 131  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 opposed 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk, please take the record. On this measure, there are 108 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this… this Motion, having received… Bill, having received the appropriate Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Rita, are you ready on House Bill 4433? Representative Rita? Out of the record. Representative Scherer, are you ready on House Bill 4707? Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Scherer on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Madam Chairman. So, I have Amendment 3 and 4? So, I would like the adoption… do you want me to take them each separately?"

"Yeah, if you would."

"Take the adoption of Amendment 3."

"If you would."

"Okay."

Speaker Currie: "Representative Scherer moves do adopt on Amendment 3. All in favor say 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. And now, Clerk."

"Representative Scherer on Amendment #4." 10000124.docx 132  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Thank… thank you, Madam Chairwoman. Yes, I would like the adoption of Floor Amendment #4 to 4707 regarding a drug task force."

"…you to explain to the Body what the Amendment does."

"Each of these Amendments is just added a little bit more. I worked extensively with all the parties involved. And this one actually adds the pill manufacturers to the task force. And it adds the sentence that will be unique to the skills of the members."

"All in favor say 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments, Clerk?"

"Third Reading. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Scherer."

"Thank you, again, Madam Chairwoman. So, as I said earlier, this creates a drug task force. We worked extensively with opposition to get it to this point. And it is now a task force for prescription drugs only."

"Representative Scherer moves do pass on House Bill 4707. Representative Breen."

"She will."

"Yes, Representative, I have the Governor's task force report right here. And as you can see, it's a small document compared to the size of this problem. Mine is very narrow in its scope."

"It's just for prescription drugs only. We're talking about things like Hydrocodone and OxyContin."

"Representative Scherer to close."

"This was originally intended to take on the problems that we're facing right now with drug overdose. And I would appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Scherer moves do pass on House Bill 4707. All in favor… vote 'aye'; opposed 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have 10000124.docx 134  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 all voted who wish? Clerk, please take the record. On this measure, there are 103 voting 'yes', 3 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having achieved the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Continuing on the Order of Representative Scherer, we have House Bill 4710. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Scherer on Amendment 1."

"Thank you, Madam Chairwoman. I would like the adoption of Floor Amendment 1 to House Bill 4710. This requires a task force also dealing with student college credit card debt."

"All in favor… Oh, I'm sorry. Representative Ford, do you wish… Representative Wehrli, do you wish to speak on the Amendment? No. All right. All in favor of the Amendment say 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative… Representative Scherer."

"Thank you, again, Madam Chairwoman. So, this is a task force that includes a matrix of 15 things that we have studied extensively and got these findings from a report. We've changed the deadline to December 14. We've met at least six times on this. And we have come to this compromise trying to 10000124.docx 135  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 find out what kind of debt there is concerning credit cards and colleges. And I would appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Scherer moves for passage of House Bill 4710. And on that, Representative Breen."

"She will."

"Pardon me?"

"The intent of the Bill is to have some hard data on what is creating the problem with student college debt, when they come out of college, in regard specifically to credit cards."

"There's a Credit Card Act of 2000… I believe it's 2009 from the Federal Government. And we have been studying the research on that. And what we need to do is to take that research and narrow it to the State of Illinois and specifically to college-age students."

"Well, we don't have the data and that is exactly why we want the task force is so that we can get the answers to the data. The 15 matrix I feel very confident that there will be some of these things that could be answered like the percentage of Illinois students who carry balances on their credit cards all or most of the time or the total amount of credit extended to individuals between the age of 18 and 21. You know, there are 15 of them. The total number of credit cards issued to students with add-ons like debt protection. The number of students who pay their monthly bill solely through an online portal."

"No, there are not."

"There are banks, credit unions."

"Some banks issue credit cards in conjunction with like Visa or MasterCard."

"Representative, the report that I referred to a little earlier, from the Federal Government, explicitly said if we don't have the answers to these questions within our state, we need to find these answers. And as… as I said earlier, to some of the matrix, when I met with some of the opposition and asked for answers to some of those, I was given nothing, not that they couldn't or could, I was just given nothing. We probably met, oh, I don't know, eight or nine times and this is a compromise. And it is now an agreed Bill with the exception of IDFPR. And their job really is to collect the data."

"The community…"

"To the Bill."

"This Bill is on Standard Debate. I will employ the timer. Representative Wehrli."

"She will."

"The whole purpose of this is to figure out of these 15 matrix which we can collect the information on and which we cannot collect the information on. So, if this is one that they are not capable of finding the information on, I made it very clear yesterday that… that we understand that could be 10000124.docx 139  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 the case. I would just really like to have a better grip of this, to understand how we can help our college students. Don't you want to know that?"

"So, if the credit card companies that are issuing these are responsible business owners, then I would think that they would know this information. If they don't know this, they should start asking it because otherwise they're issuing credit cards to people who have no hope of paying the bill off. And this is exactly the… and I appreciate you asking this because this is exactly why I brought this Bill to the floor is because our students can get so overwhelmed in debt that many of them are coming out of college and they are drowning in debt. And a good example of that would be you come out of college, you have an excellent degree from one of our universities, and you've got… this is true life stories. I've had a constituent… that's how I know this… they go, they get a good job in Chicago at a suburb, in an excellent company. They get the job; they're ready to go to work; they 10000124.docx 140  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 can't take the job because they can't get an apartment. They can't get an apartment because they don't have a good credit score. They don't have a good credit score because of the exact things that I am so interested in finding out. I'm really surprised that you don't want to know and protect your students the same way I do."

Speaker Currie: "Representative Greg Harris to announce an addition to the excused list." Harris, G.: "Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'd like to… the record to reflect that Representative Zalewski is excused for the rest of the day."

"Thank you. Representative Reick, you're up next. The five minute timer will be on."

"He will."

"My focus right now is on student college credit card debt. I would very much be interested in looking into that next year because I, just like you, I have seen one too many college graduate come out and have their whole life a mess before they even get out of the starting gate because of this issue."

"Absolutely."

"That's why I agreed to many of the things that you've said. The banks will keep this as private information. We're not asking people's names or Social Security numbers. We're asking for a collection of statistics and data so that we understand what's causing the problem. I bet there's not a single Representative in this wonderful Assembly that hasn't known someone who has faced a terrible crisis in their life due to credit card debt specifically when they were in college and most vulnerable."

"In response to your earlier questions, I… I would say that the issue… the reason that I've narrowed it just to credit cards is because the rates that are being charged are so astronomical in some places that they are just… we're preying on our most vulnerable young people who are just fresh out of high school. I know that the Senator is carrying a Bill that follows along the same path, and is much broader in scope, which I imagine you would want to be supportive of that as well." 10000124.docx 143  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"I guess it's a reflection of what I said earlier. We're not asking… it's a slippery slope and we're being very careful. We don't want names. We don't want Social Security numbers, addresses. This is purely a statistical question that we're asking."

"I'm just curious. Do you feel there is no problem with college credit card debt?"

"Well, then, there's your answer right there that…"

"Would you… you've used up your time. Would you like to bring your remarks to a close, Representative? Representative Reick."

"Representative Scherer to close."

"Thank you. In closing, I would like to reiterate, again, that we had opposition. We worked extensively with our opposition. They have all pulled off their opposition, except for IDFPR. And I have reiterated to them that their job is to collect it from the banks, the credit unions, et cetera. I think everyone in this august Assembly will agree with me that someone in their family has had a problem with credit card debt or a relative, a niece, a nephew, a neighbor. And to just turn a blind eye to that is just not the reason that we come here to do the right thing. I would urge an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Representative Scherer moves do pass on House Bill 4710. All in favor vote 'yes'; opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk, please take the record. On this Motion, there are 62 voting 'aye', 42 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the appropriate Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Hoffman, we'll go back to you on House Bill 5175. Are you ready for it? All right. Clerk, please read the Bill." 10000124.docx 145  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Representative Hoffman."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Floor Amendment #1 becomes the Bill. And it would indicate beginning, July 1, 2019, school boards should… shall pay teachers, on a full-time basis, 40… no less than $40 thousand a year. I ask that we adopt this Amendment and move it to Third Reading for debate."

"All in favor of the Amendment say 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Hoffman."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Currently, we're facing an historic crisis of a shortage of teachers. Currently, close to 2 thousand full- time teaching positions remain unfilled. Also, a recent study indicates that in 2016 19 to 30 percent of early career teachers, 1 to 5 years of service, leave their profession within 5 years. Additionally, the U.S. Department of Education has reported that there was a 31 percent decrease… a 31 percent decrease in the number of students that have enrolled in teacher preparatory programs. We're facing a 10000124.docx 146  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 crisis of unprecedented proportion when it comes to making sure that the best and the brightest students, men and women, go into the teaching profession in Illinois. There is no greater profession, no more honorable profession than passing on knowledge to people and the students here in the State of Illinois. That is why I think it's time. It's time to… for the first time since 1980… for the first time since 1980, when a starting teacher's salary with a bachelor's degree was at $9 thousand minimum. That's still in state statute, passed in 1980. We've not adjusted that since then. This would simply say that we're going to honor our teachers. We're going to recruit teachers. We're going to make sure that we retain teachers for the good or our education system here in Illinois. And we're going to make the starting salaries $40 thousand. I ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"Representative Hoffman moves do pass on House Bill 5175. And on that, Representative Breen."

"Clerk."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"I never… I never committed to holding it. I did file the Amendment, but I've decided that a mandate is… a mandate of $40 thousand was needed in order to recruit and retain teachers."

"If you look at the… the average throughout the State of Illinois, it's 39 thousand, I believe, $300 is the average."

"Yes. Now, I will say this, Representative, is I'm not wedded to… to just one $40 thousand across the state amount. I would be… I would be willing to take a look at what the… what the people who are interested in… in this Bill to look at possible regions, if that makes more sense. But I'd like to move this Bill over to the Senate. Let's… let's set a mark that we in this General Assembly are going to try and address the shortage of teachers in Illinois and we're going to pay them a decent wage when they come out of school."

"This Bill is on Short Debate. So, that I will… although there are now five or six people who want to speak and I will let them do so. I will limit them to two minutes apiece. Representative Mayfield."

"Thank you so much. This Bill came out of my committee. And I just want to state that there was no mention by anyone there. This is an initiative of IEA, not the Sponsor, but IEA is the initiator of this Bill. At no time did School Management Alliance or any other entity offer a dollar amount other than the 40 thousand. I want to put that out there. I want to state that a student that graduates with a bachelor's 10000124.docx 149  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 degree under current law only makes $10 thousand. If you have a master's degree, it is $11 thousand. We pay janitors more than we are paying our teachers. We have a severe shortage of teachers across the state. There is no incentive for a student, who has tons of student loans, to take a position that at the most will pay them $11 thousand. That is totally unacceptable. We need to stop disrespecting our teachers. We need to pay them what they're worth. This is s job that is critical for our future and for our children. I am asking everyone in here to support this Bill, vote 'yes'. This is not a political Bill. This is about, you know, addressing our teacher shortage across the state. Thank you so much."

"Representative Keith Wheeler." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"She will." Wheeler, K.: "I think it's Jay Hoffman. I…"

"Gender off."

"Sorry. I was so used to seeing Scherer."

"Gender change."

"Yes. Representative Hoffman will respond to your questions." Wheeler, K.: "Very good. Well, thank you."

"It's… it's Hoffperson… Hoffperson." Wheeler, K.: "Oh, well played. Representative, tell me what other fields that we mandate in State Law to have minimum salaries?"

"I don't… I'm not aware of any. There may be some, but I don't know that we do." Wheeler, K.: "And in… I guess…"

"Let me just say this." 10000124.docx 150  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 Wheeler, K.: "Sure. Now, it's right."

"Let me just say this." Wheeler, K.: "I'm short on time, so go fast."

"This is not a new… no, you can go. I'm not trying to… I just want to make one point. This is not a new concept. In 1980, we mandated a minimum…" Wheeler, K.: "I agree. I'm just trying…"

"…salary." Wheeler, K.: "Yeah. I do understand where you're going with that. I guess my point, Jay, is that… that most school districts that I'm aware of are collectively bargained units that have negotiated a salary that starts and… and scales up and has steps and lanes and all kinds of things involved in it. And now we are just going to come in here as a State General Assembly, and we're going to, you know, reset the floor, if you will, and bring things up based on an arbitrary time line that we set based on a arbitrary number that… that I guess you set. And it to me doesn't make sense. So, let me just go to the Bill 'cause we're out of time. I appreciate where we're going to go with this. Ladies and Gentlemen, to the Bill. These school districts already have budgets planned. They already have preparations. They have hire… made hiring decisions, classroom staffing decisions. And here we come with, as soon as it takes place, on June 30, 2019, we're going to change a lot of that. We need more time to think this through. This does not deserve a 'yes' vote. Thank you."

Speaker Currie: "Further discussion? Brief discussion Representative Katie Stuart, the timer is on." 10000124.docx 151  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Thank you. I rise in support of this Bill. We did… I want to thank Chairwoman Rita Mayfield for having all of our subject matter hearings and discussions of the teacher shortage crisis that we're facing here in the State of Illinois. And this is how we fix that crisis. We actually respect our teachers and we actually respect the professionalism and the training that goes into becoming a teacher. We've had a lot of other things thrown at us, a lot of different changes. But actually, respecting the hard work that teachers do in their classroom every day and backing that up by paying them a salary that lets them actually move out of their parents' house by the time they maybe turn 30 and pay off their student loans they've had to incur. Let them pay for their master's degree that they want in order to… enhance their teaching. That's the way that we get teachers and we retain teachers. We… we need to vote in favor of this Bill."

"Representative Wehrli, the timer's on."

"Representative Hoffperson is happy to yield."

"Here's what I do know, that 39… the… the starting salary average statewide is $39,100. So, I guess you could take… that's the starting salary."

"I guess anything is possible, but the…"

"It would apply to all teachers throughout the… throughout the State of Illinois."

"Well, I…"

"I would just say this. Our… what we've done… here's what we've done to teachers. We have reduced the pension so that in 2023 over half of the teachers will be under Tier II. Now, you can debate that, but everyone knows Tier II is a failing system."

"Well, I… Is there a showing of hands among you? All right. We will move this to Standard Debate."

"Your… your request will be noted. Representative Barbara Wheeler." 10000124.docx 153  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 Wheeler, B.: "Thank you, Ms… Madam Speaker. To… may I ask a question of the Sponsor?"

"The Sponsor will yield." Wheeler, B.: "Thank you. Jay, do you not pay enough in property taxes?"

"Excuse me. I'm sorry. I didn't hear you." Wheeler, B.: "I said, do you not pay enough in property taxes?"

"Look, I voted probably 19 times for a property tax cap." Wheeler, B.: "Okay. So, I come from one of the highest property tax counties, not just in the state, but in the country. And I also am a former teacher and I… in my first year out of college, I made $13 thousand. So, I appreciate what you're trying to do and how you're respecting teachers. I really do. And when I worked for the public school, they were kind enough to pay for my master's degree, which I very much appreciated. And I got extra dollars for coaching volleyball, which was very appreciative… appreciate it. But Jay, when you do this, my District 155, the average teacher makes $90 thousand. It's a great school district; I'm very happy with it. And I'm not complaining, but I also, let me repeat, live in one of the highest taxing counties in the country. So, when you're asking for there to be the beginning level of $40 thousand for teachers, that is going to affect… the average starting for teachers now I think is about that. But that's not… the cost of living down in southern Illinois and central Illinois is nothing what it is up in northern Illinois and around the collar counties. Please do not do that across the board to the state. I'm not proud of the fact that McHenry and Lake County are the… some of the highest property taxing counties 10000124.docx 154  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 in the state. But it is because of the high cost of our teachers. So, please vote 'no'."

"Representative Hays, the timer will be on."

"I would… no, I'm not."

"Well, I would just say this, this isn't a new concept. In 1990… 1980, we set a floor of $9 thousand. We're… we're looking at over the time where it should be now it should be… I believe at $40 thousand."

"Are you finished, Representative? Representative Flowers, the timer will be on. Do you wish to speak, Representative? Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Madam Chairman. I just want to rise in support of the Gentleman's Bill. This is a fantastic piece of legislation. Our teachers are overworked, underpaid. And I would really encourage everyone to vote 'yes' on this legislation."

"Further discussion? Representative Carroll."

"Thank you. I stand in support of this Bill. As a former special education teacher, I understand the value of feeling appreciated by the school district that I work for. Let me tell you something. The other side of the aisle likes to talk 10000124.docx 155  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 about how we're losing people in the state, losing valuable people in the state. Well, let's make this the state where people want to come to teach and make sure that our children are taught the best in this country. So, Representative Hoffperson, or Hoffman, or whatever we're saying, thank you so much for putting this forward. Thank you so much for trying to show that our most important profession of educating our children will be appreciated. And this will allow us to attract the best talent in the State of Illinois to come teach our children. So, thank you."

"Representative Scherer."

"Thank you, Madam Chairwoman. I just have one comment to make and that is that I have spent five years now on this floor listening to people say that our children are our most important asset for our future, that education is the driver of our economic… economic situation. They are required to have a college education. Then they're encouraged to get a master's degree, and like several of us on this floor, working towards their doctorate degree. And yet, we pay for it out of our own pocket, in many cases. And yet, we're going to sit here and say that there are a million college jobs out there that pay better than a teacher and that you just can't figure out a way to pay them, but oh, we love you, and you mean everything to us, and let's pay you peanuts. Well, the old saying of you get what you pay for. I imagine if we compared this to a professional athlete and we started paying them $35 thousand a year, I imagine that they would go find a different career. So, I strongly urge an 'aye' vote. And you now have the opportunity to put your money where your mouth is." 10000124.docx 156  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Representative Batinick, the timer will be on."

"He will."

"Yeah. The statute was passed in 19… or began in 1980."

"Nine… 9 thousand."

"I have not."

"It's your numbers. I don't… I don't have them."

"The effective date is July 1, 2019."

"They won't be laid off."

"Representative Reick, the timer's on."

"Representative Butler."

"Representative David Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Madam Speaker. And to the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, the Gentlelady from the 96th District said it. She said this is a chance to put your money where your mouth is. Folks, it's not our money. It's the school district's money that we are spending here. And you know, the Lady from Lake County made a reference to her school district about the average salary in her district was like 90-plus thousand dollars. My high school district has that beat by probably 10 or 15 percent, a six-figure on average salary. So, this is not going to impact my school districts. My school districts, I guarantee you, pay at least this much. But for those school districts that don't pay this much, you're asking me to vote for a tax increase on those districts, because they're going to have to levy those property tax levies on… to get those dollars to pay this increased salary. You're asking me… doesn't impact my district… but you're asking me to put a burden on your districts… on your districts that I think is unfair. Do we really want to do that? All of us recognize the importance of education, all of us recognize our teachers are devoted individuals who do the very best they possibly can for… for our students and our children. We want to pay them as much as we possibly can, but we are forcing a burden… a 10000124.docx 160  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 financial burden on school districts that cannot afford this. And I just think that's unfair. I urge a 'no' vote."

"Representative Bristow."

"Thank you, Madam Chair. Representative Hoffman, can you tell me what the starting salary is for the State of Missouri or the Metro East in… on the Missouri border?"

"Yeah. The starting… the starting salary over in St. Louis school district is above the $40 thousand range."

"So, this would keep us competitive with our neighboring state?"

"Right. And as you know, we're losing some of the best and brightest to Missouri, and to the St. Louis area, and the St. Louis County, and St Louis city school districts because a couple things. First of all, the starting salary, but secondly, their pension in Missouri is not near as… as lax as our Tier II pension, which actually you lose money on if you're a beginning teacher."

"Thank you."

"Representative Willis, our last speaker."

"Thank you, Madam Chair. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He will."

"Mr. Hoffman, you were on the floor less than two hours ago. How many Bills did we pass because we have recognized that there's a teacher shortage in the state?"

"I… I apologize. I was in Bill review so."

"Okay."

"You could probably answer that."

"I think there were two at least that I'm aware of, if not more because we have seen… to the Bill. We have seen that 10000124.docx 161  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 there is a teacher shortage in the state, so we're looking at other ways that we can go about to make sure that we pay our teachers adequately, that we can make sure that all of our schools have the teachers there where we need them. We've had numerous, numerous speakers before me state that nobody denies that education is important and our children are important throughout the state. But in order to do that, in order to educate our children, we have to have good qualified teachers to do that. If we don't pay them adequately, they're not going to teach in the State of Illinois. We just heard from my colleague right across… right across the river in St. Louis, they're paying more than this. We need to keep our teachers here. St. Louis, that's right in this area. It's a shame that we're not paying teachers in this area that amount of money. This is not a get rich amount. Forty thousand dollars, yes, it's a workable wage. It is something that we can go and afford to keep our houses, we can live on our own, not have to live with our parents. I have a daughter that's a teacher. She lived with me for an extra five years 'til she was able to get out on her own. This is what we need to have in today's budget. Will it cost? I actually say it's not going to cost because we won't have as much teacher turnover. The teacher training will go down. We'll have teachers that are stabilized in there, we won't have to do as much recruiting because we'll have teachers that are there, happy and willing to teach our students. And they'll have some sense of stability in our school districts. This is what we need to see. This is what we need to do. I don't think it's an overreach by any means. And I would certainly urge everyone 10000124.docx 162  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 to support this Bill. Is it going to be a burden on some school districts? Maybe initially, but in the end it's going to do what we want. It's going to make sure we have teachers where we need them, that they do what they need to do, that we put stability in our system, and that we educate our students so that we have a new generation that can do the best for the State of Illinois, want to be part of our state, stay here in-state, and therefore, help our economy as we continue to go. Thank you so much for bringing forth this Bill, Mr… or should I say Hoffperson or should we just go with Jay? I guess Jay is much better, it's gender neutral. So, Jay, thank you so much for this Bill. And let's continue to work for it. Let's support our teachers wholeheartedly with an 'aye' vote. I urge the rest of this Body to continue and do that with me. Thank you so much."

"Jay to close."

"Well thank you, Madam Chairman. I just… I appreciate the debate and I appreciate the comments from the opponents. I just totally disagree. I read some statistics previously. Two thousand full-time teaching positions are unfilled. Nineteen to thirty percent, to the previous speaker's point, of early career teachers are leaving within the first five years. It'll be cheaper to keep people if you pay them. It'll be easier to recruit people, the best and the brightest to teach our children, if we pay them a decent wage. You shouldn't have to live in your parent's house for five more years so you can fulfill your passion of teaching young people. Let me give you three more statistics. If you have a degree in math or science, the average starting salary is 53 10000124.docx 163  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 thousand if you're in the noneducation field. Social sciences, 47 thousand if you're in the non education field. If you… if cross the United States of America, if you are a beginning teacher, you average $50,556. If you're in Illinois, you average only $39 thousand. This says let's pay teachers who make this their profession and want to help our young people, let's give them what they deserve. I think a $40 thousand salary is something that is reasonable. We just passed evidence-based funding, 350 million new dollars into our school districts. It was needed. And a good portion of that should go to recruiting and making sure we have the finest teachers in the United States of America. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Hoffman moves do pass on House Bill 5175. All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'no'. Voting is open and Representative Wehrli has requested a verification. Vote your own switch. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk, please take the record. On this Motion, there are 62 voting 'aye', 38 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And Representative Wehrli, do you persist in your request for a verification? He does. Clerk, please read the votes in the affirmative."

"Questions of the affirmative?"

"Representative Burke, Representative Dan Burke. Representative Dan Burke does not seem to be in the chamber."

"Clerk, removes… remove his name."

"She… Bristow. Representative Bristow. She waved her hand when… when you were reading the… the roll. Representative Bristow. Representative Bristow. You want to wait for her to come out? We can do that."

"There's Representative Bristow."

"Representative Guzzardi's in his spot."

"Representative Will Davis. Representative Davis. Representative Davis. Further questions?"

"Representative Williams."

"Well actually, you lost. So, on this measure, there are 61 voting 'aye', 38 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this measure, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Hoffman, you're on a roll. Do you want to do House Bill 5175? Oh, excuse me, just a minute. We need some information… pearls of wisdom from the Clerk, Clerk."

"And Representative Demmer, for what reason do you rise?"

Speaker Currie: "The record will so reflect. All right, Representative Hoffman, are you ready on House Bill 5197? Clerk, please read the… read the Bill."

"Representative Hoffman."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 517 (sic-5197) would require that the City of Chicago, just like the entire rest of the state, provide for a foreign fire insurance board. The foreign fire insurance board is made up of the chief, as well as six members who are elected. There is a fund that is automatically put into the… foreign fire insurance fund that is administered for the foreign fire insurance board… by the foreign fire insurance board. Every… once again, every… every fire district in the state has this. It is money that is being… that is put into these funds in order to get safety gear and other equipment for firefighters and the funding comes from the… an insurance company who is domiciled out of state that pay… that sells insurance within the state and within that jurisdiction. I think this is a matter of fundamental fairness. And I ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"Representative Hoffman has moved for passage of House Bill 5197. This Bill is on Short Debate. Representative Breen."

"He will."

"It actually goes into, I believe, it is utilized by the fire department, but the determination as to what is it… it is utilized for is made by, I believe, the City Council."

"Well, it's not necessarily union. The…"

"Well, down by me, we have a lot of volunteer fire departments and they would… they would control it."

"And they're not union, no."

"Representative Martwick."

"Thank you. To the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, the Foreign Fire Insurance Fund was designed… it is a tax on insurance policies, it is collected, but it's to be used for the improvement of fire protection districts. The City of Chicago is taking that and they're just basically offsetting the cost. They are not doing anything to actually improve the fire departments with this money. This is the same thing that 10000124.docx 168  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 you have in all of your communities. The City of Chicago has the right to have a board that can make decisions to help firefighters have… have good equipment, the right stuff so that they are safe amongst their… when they're performing their duties as firefighters. It's an important Bill. I strongly urge an 'aye' vote."

"Further discussion? Representative Willis."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield, please?"

"The Sponsor will yield."

"So, the… could you please explain one more time for the Body the purpose of the Foreign Fire Insurance Fund?"

"So, the fund is… is actually a… a payment that is made by foreign insurance companies. An insurance company, not from another country, but one that is domiciled in another state other than Illinois. And when they sell fire insurance, they have to pay a premium into this Foreign Fire Insurance Fund. And the fund is set aside to be utilized for things like equipment, whether it's safety equipment, turnout gear, things of that nature."

"So, it is clearly marked how the funds can be spent. They are to be spent for enhancements of equipment, whether it is personal gear or fire trucks or any other things that may come along with that. It is not to be spent for personnel, correct?"

"That's correct."

"Okay. To the Bill. What we're seeing right now is we want to see equity. We're hearing oftentimes that the City of Chicago gives carveouts. They have this that they do differently than everybody else. What we're saying now is 10000124.docx 169  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 they should not do it… be differently. They should do it the same way every other department. My home department of Addison Protection Fire District they have a foreign fire fund. They have a board that makes up that board… they decide what equipment is best to be put into that department. How to spend the money that they may get. We're saying that the City of Chicago should be doing the same. It is not a union run board. Am I correct with that, Representative?"

"The way… the way it works is that on each board there are seven members. One is the chief and six are elected by the district."

"Okay. And are… those are members of the department and they could be at any rank…"

"Bring your remarks to a close. Your time is up."

"Thank you."

"Representative Willis."

"I would just very… very much say that this is something that we want to see happen. It is much more important that we put this money where it is meant to be totally statewide to go and make sure we have the best equipment possible for our men and women in the fire departments, specifically the City of Chicago. I urge an 'aye'."

Speaker Currie: "Representative… Representative Hoffman to close."

"Thank you. Real briefly. What we're talking about here is just making the City of Chicago have the same setup, the same board, and the same ability to fund equipment for the safety of the men and women who serve and fight every day to keep us safe. I ask for an 'aye' vote." 10000124.docx 170  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Representative Hoffman moves passage of House Bill 5197. And on that, all in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk, please take the record. On this Motion, there are 98 voting 'yes', 7 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having achieved the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Fine, are we… are you ready for us to go back to House Bill 4146? Rules Report from the Clerk."

"Thank you. Would you please read House Bill 4146 on Second Reading?"

"Representative Fine."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This Bill is a consumer friendly piece of legislation that will help patients afford their medication."

"We have to leave this Bill on Second Reading unless you're able to waive…" 10000124.docx 171  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Oh."

"…to decide that the… the mandate note request is inapplicable."

"Thank you. I'd like to find the mandate note inapplicable."

"Representative Fine moves that the mandate note act… note is inapplicable. All in favor of her… No, no, no. I'm sorry. Representative Breen on the Motion. No, he doesn't want to speak on the…"

"All in favor of finding the note inapplicable vote 'yes'; opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk, take the record. On this measure, there are 61 voting 'aye', 44 voting 'no'. And the mandates act… note is inapplicable. Then, Mr. Clerk, Third Reading. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Fine."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This Bill is a consumer friendly piece of legislation that will help patients afford their medications. When someone signs up for their yearly insurance contract, sometimes they pick that policy because their medication is covered under that policy. However, during that contract year, although the insurance company can change the… 10000124.docx 172  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 the policy, the person who's on that plan cannot change. So, what this legislation says is if you are stable on your medication, you can stay on your medication at the original contracted price."

"Representative Fine has moved passage of House Bill 4146. And on that Motion, Representative Batinick."

"She indicates she will."

"No. When I originally called the Bill, I said I would bring it back but we pulled the transcript to ensure the fact that I said I'd try to bring back an Amendment, but I would not hold the Bill. And the goal is to continue working on it in the Senate."

"If you have enough people asking for it, we can. All right. This will move to Standard Debate."

"Yes."

"Representative Breen, five minutes."

"Representative Wehrli, five minutes."

"Yes."

"Yes. We've met a number of times and we're going to continue to meet."

"Well… what was wrong with the Amendment that died in committee? Is that…"

"I… what we want to ensure with the Amendment on this legislation that it is impacting the stable patient and that stable patient should be determined by the doctor. If the doctor feels that it's okay for the patient to switch their formulary and we want to make sure… we're not saying that they can't switch their formulary. They can change the formulary throughout the contract year. But for that patient who's stable on their medication… and we've all heard from friends and family members who have been stable on medication who go to pick up their… their medicine at the pharmacy and it went from $90 to 900 and now, they can no longer afford 10000124.docx 176  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 it. And if they need that medication… and let me tell you a little bit about the people who are in favor of this legislation. We're talking about the AIDS Foundation, Alliance for Patient Access, America Autoimmune, American Cancer Society, American Diabetes, American Liver, Arthritis Foundation. These are organizations that are looking out for the best interest of their patients. What happens when their medication is switched or when they don't get the medication they can need because they can no longer afford it, they end up in the hospital, they end up missing work. And the cost of that is far more expensive than allowing them to stay on their stable medication."

"Yes."

"Heather Steans."

"Yes."

"Absolutely."

"Representative Willis."

"Thank you, Madam Chair. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"She will."

"Representative, I actually happened to be subbing in committee when this was up for discussion. And I was very 10000124.docx 177  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 happy to be able to support the Bill. What you're stating… and let me ask you on this. You're saying that we want to protect people when they cannot change their insurance carrier throughout the year. That could change the way their regular medication would cost. Is that correct?"

"Right. We're trying to prevent the bait and switch. So, for example, when you rent your apartment for the year, you sign a contract and you have one contract price for every month throughout that year. Your landlord cannot come back to you and say, oh, you know it's July. I need more money. I'm going to raise it. They have to commit to that contract for the year. And that's exactly what we're saying in this legislation."

"So, we're basically saying that that contract for insurance that gives you what your monthly rate would be also should be applying to what the rate for that… that medication is, especially since we're dealing with patients that have chronic illnesses, most of them are where we're looking at. For example, my daughter who happens to be a Type I diabetic, you're saying what we pay for insulin this month should be the same cost that we pay through the entire year of that insurance policy?"

"Right. And also, in addition to that, we're not saying that you can't switch to a generic or you cannot switch to your other medication, if there's a cheaper medication on the market. But what we're saying is, let's let the doctor be the judge of what is best for their patient."

"Right. So, it should be totally by the doctor not by the pharmacy, not by the insurance company, so that they can go. 10000124.docx 178  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 To the Bill. This is a Bill that is long overdue. We have had the pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies pulling the string and making our health care decisions for us. That is not the way we should be in this. We need to make sure that the health care decisions are being made by our physicians and ourselves through education on that. I had a terrible problem with this that my own daughter who, like I said earlier, is a Type I diabetic, insulin costs continue to rise, rise, rise on it. But she cannot change her insurance carrier to a better… a better coverage during the year. She only has a very small window of time when she can do that. Why can't we make sure that this, again, happens with the prescription medications the same way? At that renewal time, they have a right to go and bring it up to the higher prices that is so that they can… your insurer or insure, I guess, it is… is the person that makes the decision not the insurance company. I urge everybody to take an 'aye' vote on this. I think the few things that need to be worked out on it can be worked out in the Senate. And this is a… definitely a good Bill. Thank you, Representative."

"Are we… this is on Standard Debate, so the timer is on at five minutes, but also the Rules call for three to speak in favor, three to speak against. Representative David Harris, you're up next. I believe we've had three opponents. Are you going to speak for the Bill?" Harris, D.: "I am."

"Please proceed." Harris, D.: "Thank you. A question of the Sponsor, if I may?"

"You may." 10000124.docx 179  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 Harris, D.: "Representative, when… when a formulary is prepared, how long does that normally last for?"

"That's really a good question." Harris, D.: "Well, thank you, that's why I asked."

"That's not something the consumers doesn't know 'cause most of these contracts are done without the consumer having any knowledge. So, when you sign up for your contract year, you don't know that three months down the line that formulary might change." Harris, D.: "Well, but most formularies… when you enter a plan, most formularies are negotiated on a yearly basis, are they not?"

"I believe some are yearly and some are even longer than that." Harris, D.: "Well, my point about… about a formulary changing after perhaps a year is that once you're locked into that formulary, if there were a change… when the formulary changes presumably in six months, if it's only a year plan, there really is a… and not a heavy burden because that… that company on the new formulary can put a new drug at a higher price…"

"Correct." Harris, D.: "…into the formulary, right? So, and it's just briefly to the Bill, Ladies and Gentlemen, and I recognize what some on my side of the aisle have said about it only… it doesn't impact ERISA plans and it impacts a smaller number of plans, but I'm not trying to crush businesses here in Illinois. I just don't think that this is an undue burden. It does protect consumers from a change in a formulary for a plan which they agreed to and… and for the business, that formulary is going 10000124.docx 180  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 to be recalculated at the next negotiation period and they're going to be able to change the drug or change the price at that point. So, I think a 'yes' vote is warranted on this Bill and hopefully, you will support it. Thank you."

"We've had three proponents, three opponents. So, now it's time for Representative Fine to close."

"Thank you, again, Madam Speaker. I would urge an 'aye' vote on this legislation. Again, I want to read some of the organizations that are working with me on this Bill. The National Psoriasis Foundation, Multiple Sclerosis, Mental Health America, the Illinois State Med Society, the Illinois Psychiatric Society. They understand the importance of somebody being able to stay on their medication at an affordable price. Like I said, this is for the stable patient. And I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Representative Fine moves do pass on House Bill 4146. All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk, please take the record. On this measure, there are 71 voting 'yes', 27 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having achieved the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Clerk, Committee Reports."

"Representative Olsen, are you ready on House Bill 54… no… 4191? Clerk, read the Bill." 10000124.docx 181  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Representative Olsen."

"Representative Olsen has moved do pass on House Bill 4191. And on that Motion, Representative Mylan… Moylan."

"Mr. Representative…"

"I'm sorry. That was… do you want to speak on the Amendment, Mr. Moylan?"

"No."

"No. And Mr. Davidsmeyer, do you want to wait and discuss the Bill on Third? All right. Representative Olsen moves do pass on Amendment 3 to House Bill 4191. All in favor say 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Olsen." 10000124.docx 182  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Representative Olsen moves do pass on House Bill 4191. This measure is on Short Debate. And under our Rules, that calls for one person… the proponent to make his opening, one person to stand in opposition for two minutes, and then the Sponsor to close. There are a lot of people seeking recognition. Is there an opponent among you? If there's not an opponent among you, then do you all feel a need to speak? Representative… oh, wait. Representative Davidsmeyer, were you an opponent? Representative Davidsmeyer, speak."

"He will answer your question." 10000124.docx 183  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Representative Moylan, I'm breaking the rules for you because you chose not to speak on the Amendment."

"Thank you very much. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative, I see that your proposed Bill covers dogs and cats. Would you consider an Amendment that would cover elephants or rhinoceros?"

"Yes. I think this Bill needs some work. Thank you."

"We've actually used up our numbers of proponents and opponents, but both Representative Lang and Feigenholtz had their lights on. Do you wish to speak? Representative Lang."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He will." 10000124.docx 186  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"I appreciate you indulging me, Madam Chairman. Where's Mr. Olsen? There's Mr. Olsen. So, I… why do you just limit this to dogs and cats?"

"Do you have any research showing these are the most likely animals? What if… this came out of DuPage. What if someone was parked in the Oak Brook Mall parking lot and they went in to get a latte. And their pet snake was in distress in their car. What about that?"

"Don't you think you ought to take it out of the record and fix that?"

"All right. You've said that twice now. Is that part of the script you're reading from, Representative?

"So… so, let me ask you this. And it was asked by a prior Legislator… and it was a good question, but I really didn't get the answer. How do you know that the dog or cat is in distress? Do they hold up a sign?"

"Do they wave? Do they paw at the window? How do you know they're in distress?" 10000124.docx 187  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"So, you are reading from a script. I see you doing that."

"Okay."

"And if they're wrong?"

"What if they break open the window, the dog jumps out, bites the person and runs away?"

"So, let's assume I'm in your district in Downers Grove at Gatto's, a wonderful restaurant and I…"

"It's not as good as others, but it's okay. And… and let's assume I’ve parked my car and my… my poodle's in the car."

"And I go in to have a piece of pizza at Gatto's and somebody walks by… let's say Mr. Harris, who I know is interested in this Bill, walks by… I used his name in debate in case he 10000124.docx 188  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 wants to speak… walks by and thinks your dog is in distress, breaks the window, the dog runs away. And you're… and I'm distressed. I've lost my poodle. I have no recourse against Mr. Harris because he thinks my dog's in distress?"

"So, Mr. Harris…"

"Representative Lang, you have used up more than the two minutes."

"Just… just one more second."

"So, if you could bring your remarks to a…"

"Well said, Madam Speaker. I'll get you back for that. So… so, he's supposed to wrestle the poodle to the ground and make sure he keeps it?"

"Last question. What if Mr. Harris is in distress? All right. Thank… you know what, you've done such a great job, I'll vote for your Bill."

"Okay. The Chair will now break the rules one more time and we'll hear very briefly from Representative Feigenholtz." 10000124.docx 189  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, for your gracious gift allowing me not to torture Representative Olsen like the two previous speakers and just say what a great job you have done on this Bill. This is a real problem and Legislators around the state, especially in the city, have gotten calls from people. I know I have. A former staffer, who will remain nameless, called me and said, didn't you just pass a Bill that allows me to… I'm in the Willis Tower parking lot. There's a dog in a car, it’s clearly in distress. Am I allowed to break the window? They called law enforcement. Nobody knew what people were allowed to do. This Bill will clarify that. He… the Sponsor has taken Amendments from interested parties. Everybody's in support of this except for some philosophical disagreements. So, I really encourage an 'aye' vote. Thank you, Representative Olsen."

"Representative Olsen to close."

"Representative Olsen has moved do pass on House Bill 4191. All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk, please take the record. On this measure, there are 78 voting 'aye', 27 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Parkhurst, are you ready on House Bill 4193? Clerk, please read the Bill." 10000124.docx 190  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Representative Parkhurst."

"Have you finished?"

"Oh, sorry, sorry. Please carry on."

"Representative Parkhurst has moved do pass on House Bill 40… 4193. And on that Motion, there is no discussion. All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk, please take the record. On this Motion, there are 109 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. We're going to go back and pick up some Bills that we earlier missed. Representative Dan Burke, are you ready on House Bill 1469? On House Bill 4701? Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Burke." 10000124.docx 191  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 Burke, D.: "If my… as we have indicated to Leadership, with respect to our priorities, I would prefer to call House Bill 4643. Is that an opportunity?"

"We will get to that, but we haven't got to it yet. It is…" Burke, D.: "I…"

"…it is not on the current list, so if you'd like to call the… 4701, this would be a good time to do it." Burke, D.: "That would be…"

"Would you like to?" Burke, D.: "That'll be fine."

"Okay." Burke, D.: "Thank you, Madam Speaker."

"I think the Clerk already read the Bill on Third Reading, so it's up to you." Burke, D.: "I actually thought that there was an Amendment to this."

"Clerk, is there an Amendment filed?"

"This Bill is on Short Debate. Representative Breen for two minutes."

"Standard Debate it is."

"Sponsor will."

"Representative Wehrli."

"He will."

"Representative Batinick has plenty of time on his own. Representative Batinick."

"Representative Burke to close." Burke, D.: "Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would encourage the Body to be considerate of this… the little tiny community not too far from Springfield and the few others in our state that would be affected. This is not a giveaway. This is not a gift. We are talking about supporting individuals that serve on police departments across the state that every day put themselves in the line of fire, jeopardize their life and safety on our behalf. It's not a gift. I would ask you to be fair. Please vote 'aye'."

"Representative Burke moves passage of House Bill 4701. All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The vote… the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? On this Motion… Clerk… Clerk, please take the record. On this Motion, 65 voting 'yes', 39 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having achieved the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Crespo, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Speaker. I just want the record to reflect that on House Bill 4146, of which I was a cosponsor, I should be recorded as voting 'yes'."

"The record will so reflect. Representative Long."

"The record will so reflect. Representative Keith Wheeler." 10000124.docx 198  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Madam Speaker. Please let the record reflect that Representative Bourne is excused for the rest of today."

"The record will so reflect. Representative Phillips, are you ready on House Bill 5466? Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Phillips on Amendment 1."

"Representative Phillips moves… moves do pass on Amendment 1 to House Bill 5466. All in favor say 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"We're taking the Bill out of the record. It was not… we were not expecting to call it at this time. Representative Spain, how about House Bill 5351? Yeah. Clerk, please read the Bill. And then, we'll recognize Representative Bellock."

"Representative Bellock."

"Representative Bellock moves passage of House Bill 5351. Seeing no one requesting recognition, all in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? On this measure, there are 105 voting 'aye', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having… received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Sente on House Bill 4790. Clerk, please read the Bill. Your Amendment was just adopted in the Rules Committee, so we… we can't hear the Bill yet. Representative Slaughter, 51… House Bill 5136. Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Slaughter on the Amendment."

"Floor Amendment… thank you. I'd like to adopt Floor Amendment #1."

"You want to adopt Amendment #1?"

"Can we… I've got some other Bills first can we… can we get to those first? Can we get to these other Bills first?"

"All right. You want to take this out of the record?"

"Yes."

"All right, Representative. At the request of the Sponsor, Representative Slaughter, House Bill 5136 is out of the record. How about House Bill 4741, Representative? Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Slaughter moves for adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 4741. Do you want to explain the Amendment?"

"Sure. Thank you, Madam Speaker. House Floor Amendment #2 makes a few changes to… to the Bill. On line 16, it replaces the number 30 with 7. On line 17, replaces the number 50 with 30. And then, on line 19, inserts the date of August 1, 2019." 10000124.docx 201  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"All in favor of the Amendment say 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Slaughter."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. HB4741 increases the number of visits our inmates get in the Illinois Department of Corrections from five visits per month to seven visits per month. This Bill is also requiring that the department keep and maintain the inmate's visitors list electronically. We worked with the department on this. With the Amendment, the department is supportive and is a proponent. These visits are important to both the inmates and the families. When we look at the best practices regarding prerelease programs, we see that these visits are instrumental to the rehabilitation of our offenders. And they often can enhance the effectiveness of these programs. I urge a 'yes' vote."

"Representative Slaughter moves do pass on House Bill 4741. Seeing no one seeking recognition, all in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk, please take the record. On this measure, there are 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having achieved the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. 10000124.docx 202  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 Representative Slaughter, are you interested in House Bill 5303? Clerk, read the Bill."

"Representative Slaughter on Amendment 1."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I move for House Floor Amendment #1. This Amendment is a gut and replace Amendment that becomes the Bill. The Amendment puts forth several changes in regards to how the Cook County Sheriff's Merit Board will operate and function."

"The Gentleman moves adoption of Amendment 1. All in favor say 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Slaughter."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. HB5303 is a Bill that will help address the Cook County Sheriff's Board… Board's massive backlog of cases. Currently, in regards to disciplinary matters, this board oversees the motions, suspensions, and terminations. What this Bill is doing is requiring that the board just be able to take up terminations and will shift the motions and suspensions over to the grievance process. There are also provisions in the 10000124.docx 203  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 Bill that allow the board to designate and utilize hearing officers to hear some of these cases. And it also puts forth a 90-day time period for the board to render its decision on these matters. There are no opponents. The Cook County Sheriff's Office as well as the Cook County Sheriff's Merit Board is in support. They support the framework of the Bill. I am hearing that there may be possible minor changes, if and when this Bill gets to the Senate. I urge a 'yes' vote."

"Representative Slaughter moves for passage of House Bill 5303. And on that question, Representative Breen."

"He will."

"Yes, it is. That's accurate, yes."

"Representative Slaughter moves do pass on House Bill 5303. All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk, please take the record. On the Motion, 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having achieved the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby 10000124.docx 204  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 declared passed. Representative Smith, are you ready on House Bill 5856? Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill."

"Representative Smith."

"Yes. House Bill 5856 amends the Toll Highway Act by exempting vehicles owned and operated by a Mass Transit District from paying tolls on the toll highway system. Under current law, the Suburban Bus Division, PACE of the RTA is allowed to ride the toll roads for free. In order to fulfill its services to its constituency, this Bill simply expands this program to all Mass Transit Districts."

"Representative Smith moves do pass on House Bill 5856. And on that question… the Bill is on Short Debate. Representative Breen for two minutes."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Actually, I have… we have an agreement with the tollway system, if and when this Bill makes it to the Senate. There 10000124.docx 205  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 will be an Amendment filed making some changes to this legislation."

"That is correct."

"That is correct."

"When the appropriate fare is paid."

"My vehicle doesn't go over the speed limit."

"Thank you."

"The Bill is on Short Debate, so we really are limited for the number of speakers. Representative Gordon- Booth."

"Does the Sponsor yield?"

"Yes."

"Yes."

"Representative, can you tell me where this Bill came from? What is the impetus of this legislation?"

"The River Valley Mass Transit Authority in Kankakee County. That's where this Bill originated." 10000124.docx 206  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"So, do you represent the… do you represent Kankakee County?"

"Portions of it, I do."

"Wow. So, how… how long is your district?"

"How long? How much time do we have? My district extends from the south side of Chicago into portions of Kankakee County."

"That's incredibly significant. You must be a mighty fine Legislator to be able represent the interest of not only the City of Chicago but also Kankakee County. Can you tell us how important this legislation is to that particular community that you represent?"

"That community… that will allow constituents of this community to have access to Midway Airport…"

"Nice."

"…which is vital to their survival and vacation time."

"To survival, vacation, as well as economic development. So, is this your first Bill?"

"Yes, it is."

"Welcome to the General Assembly. I ask that everyone vote 'aye'."

"Thank you."

"This Bill is on Short Debate. If there's anybody standing in opposition, among the many who wish to speak, let me know and we'll hear from you, otherwise we'll ask Representative Smith to close. Anybody in opposition? Representative Martwick."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He will." 10000124.docx 207  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"So, Representative Smith, this would allow Mass Transit to avoid having to pay tolls? Is that what that… did I understand that right?"

"Only busses carrying passengers."

"Okay. So, is there a minimum number of passengers required?"

"No, there is not."

"So, if I'm driving down to Springfield and I've got Guzzardi and Andrade in the car, does that qualify me then to skip paying tolls?"

"If you are driving a Mass Transit Authority bus, it does."

"Would… would it help if I had a stressed poodle and an elephant in the car?"

"As long as you have all of your windows intact."

"Nothing further."

"Representative Smith to close."

"Yes. Again, House Bill 5856 is intended for Mass Transit Authority vehicles to ride the tolls for free, as RTA PACE busses already do. I would encourage an 'aye' vote on this Bill. Thank you."

"Representative Smith moves do pass on House Bill 5856. And on that, all who are in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk, please take the record. On this measure, 103 voting 'yes', 4 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having achieved the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Clerk, please read House Bill 4790, Representative Sente." 10000124.docx 208  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Representative Sente."

"I'd like to adopt House Floor Amendment 4 to House Bill 4790. House Amendment 4 is a gut and replace Amendment that encourages the use of compost-amended soil. And it removes IDOT's opposition."

"I think you want to withdraw 3 and then we will propose 4?"

"I'm sorry. I couldn't hear back here what you read. Yes, I would like remove House Amendment 3."

Speaker Currie: "She withdraws Amendment 3. Clerk, next Amendment."

"Representative Sente."

"I'd like to adopt House Floor Amendment 4 to House 4790."

"Want to explain the Amendment or just adopt it and describe the Bill on Third Reading?"

"I would like to just describe the Bill on Third Reading, please."

"All right. All in favor of the Amendment say 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Third Reading. Clerk, read the Bill." 10000124.docx 209  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Representative Sente."

"Thank you. House Floor Amendment, as I mentioned, is a gut and replace Amendment. It does two things. It creates two pilot projects for IDOT where they're using compost-amended soil versus regular soil. After they go through those projects, they're to give us a report back to the General Assembly. And also ask all state agencies, except universities, to consider compost-amended soil when they have a landscape project. I'm happy to take any questions."

"This Bill is on Short Debate. Representative Breen for two minutes."

"He will."

"They did ask me last year to not move a similar Bill forward and they would do it on their own. And… and then, when it didn't happen, I refiled the Bill this year. I am aware that they have two projects in mine, and District 1, that will be moving forward."

"Is there opponents to this Bill who would like to speak? We have room for one opponent, otherwise Representative Sente to close. Representative Sente."

"’Aye’ vote. Thank you."

"Representative Sente moves do pass on House Bill 4790. All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk… Clerk, please take the record. On this measure, there are 107 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Katie Stuart, are you ready on House Bill 4129? Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Stuart."

"Thank you. This is simply a TIF extension for the Village of Caseyville that's in my district. All letters of support have been submitted. And there's no opposition."

"I don't see anyone seeking recognition. So, those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk, please take the record. On this measure, there are 97 voting 'yes', 6 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4495, Representative Thapedi. Out of the record. Representative Wallace, are you ready on House Bill 4964? Representative Wallace. House Bill 4964. Clerk, read the Bill." 10000124.docx 211  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Representative Wallace."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This is a Bill that will create remedies for foster children or actually, youth in care, who are hospitalized beyond medical necessity. I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Wallace moves do pass on House Bill 4964. And on that question, Representative Breen."

"She will."

"No, that is not the Bill. The Bill is it creates the opportunity for private action should they be in the hospital beyond medical necessity. We're actually saying that you can keep that child for… which I'm not very comfortable with this either… but 14 days beyond their medical need to be there. But on the 15th day, the state needs to figure out what is going on and it creates a private action."

"That is what they could do." 10000124.docx 212  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Yes."

"Yes, the… the former."

"I'm sorry? Was that a question?"

"They could retain an attorney. They could retain some other advocate. For historical context, in 2015, the State of Illinois created a… foster children's Bill of Rights. In 2017, I expanded upon that creation that I did in 2015 that says that individuals have the right to be in the least restrictive, most home-like setting. And we are talking about children who are there beyond…"

"…medical necessity."

"They are just simply…"

"…sitting in the hospital."

"They have a right to a private action."

"But it's a… the typical process of suing the State of Illinois is how they would get their money."

"The Bill doesn't allow for that. It didn't state that."

"That is the cost if no one places the children outside of the hospital once they should be medically be released from the hospital. So, that is not an automatic cost. That is the cost only if you continue to retain children. And that cost estimate is based upon the fact that, I believe, today there are 36 children who are in a psychiatric hospital and do not have the need to be there."

"AFSCME's opposition is that they believe that this is an issue that creates some tension for their workers. I believe that this is a particular issue that will push DCFS and DJJ to do better by providing their workers with the resources necessary to recruit adequate foster homes for children so that they may be discharged from the hospital."

"No. This is not premature release. This Bill does not even become an issue until 15 days, 2 weeks and 1 day, after they were supposed to be discharged from the hospital in the first place."

"It is the issue. Unfortunately, there are discussions and meetings that are actually held that are in reference to 'stuck children'… or, no. They're not even referred to as children. Those children are referred to as stuck kids, as if they are some burden on us because these children are youth in care and we have not done our job to find adequate placement for them."

"This Bill addresses the fact that children should be in the most appropriate setting and right now, that is not the case where we have over 30 children, right now, today, sitting in hospitals where they should not be. And when that happens, there are children who need psychiatric placement who can't be placed for the treatment that they need because we have children who are there beyond medical necessity."

"Representative Wheeler to add someone to the excused list." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Madam Speaker. Please excuse Representative Phillips for the rest of today." 10000124.docx 216  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Thank you, That's what the record will show. Representative Bellock, the Bill is on Short Debate. And Representative Turner in the Chair."

"Representative Wallace to close."

"Thank you. This Bill is about caring for the children that we say we could be better parents to than their own biological parents. This is about making sure that they have the most home-like setting and sitting as some eight-year- old child did this holiday season in a hospital, when there was no medical need for them to be there, is not the State of 10000124.docx 217  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 Illinois being the best parents that we can be to the youth in care. I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 4964 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 54 voting 'yes', 50 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having failed to reach the Constitutional Majority… Representative Wallace is recognized."

"Yes. I would like to Postponed Consideration. And I would like to invite every Member in this chamber to find the nearest child and adolescent psychiatric facility to them, find the nearest juvenile detention center to them and go and visit and talk to a child who had to spend a holiday or any other time in a facility they did not need to be in. And then, come back…"

"Mr. Clerk…"

"…and I will call this Bill again."

"Mr. Clerk, please move this Bill to the Order of Postponed Consideration. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 4595, Representative Fine. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the ball… Bill again." 10000124.docx 218  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Representative Fine."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill is identical to the Bill that we passed last Session that was vetoed by the Governor. And what it does is create a not-for-profit state worker's comp fund. Similar companies in other countries, including our neighbors in Missouri and Kentucky, have successfully implemented these companies and our legislation is modeled after these states. In all 27 states have state worker's comp funds or state charters worker's comp insurance companies created through a public-private partnership. This is an idea for another solution to the argument that our state companies are paying too much in worker's comp insurance. And I ask for your support."

"Chair recognizes Representative Breen."

"This Bill will be moved to the Order of Standard Debate."

"Representative Wheeler for five minutes." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor indicates that she will yield." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you. Representative, we discussed this in committee, I guess, a number of times now."

"Yep." Wheeler, K.: "In the last committee session we had, I don't have my figures in front of me, but you had mentioned a figure based on the $10 million investment the state would make that 10000124.docx 219  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 we would be able… how much insurance do we sell based on that downstroke?"

"Right. It would be a loan. It would not be an investment. It would be a $10 million loan. And the figure is $3 of insurance for every dollar of investment." Wheeler, K.: "So, is it $3 of insurance or $3 of premium?"

"Three dollars of premium for every dollar of investment." Wheeler, K.: "Okay. And what's the average profit margin of a… of a work comp insurance company?"

"Right now, that has gone up. It says… according to the Department of Insurance, insurance company profits are up about 30 percent since 2011. And this is since we passed the worker's comp insurance changes that are already in law in Illinois." Wheeler, K.: "I'm afraid that didn't answer the question because back in 2011 worker's comp insurance companies were not making a profit, they were losing money. So, I guess the question then becomes if this is a competitive marketplace, which of course you're asking for this to be, then that $30 million amount of premium you're going to write won't generate enough profit to be able to pay back the state within the time period allowed. That's pretty much simple math. So, this Bill can't work."

"I believe it can. The National Council on Compensation Insurance has recommended that since its recommendation last year insurance rates for our employers should go down another 10.9 percent in premiums for 2018. And since the 2011 benefit cuts, they've recommended a total decrease of 36.5 percent. 10000124.docx 220  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 And if you ask the employers in your district, I can guarantee you they've not seen that decrease." Wheeler, K.: "So, just to reiterate, with what your Bill does, if there's $30 million in premium you could write…"

"I'm sorry. Repeat yourself, please." Wheeler, K.: "If there's $30 million in premium that you could write, based on the $10 million… assuming no overhead…"

"Right." Wheeler, K.: "…and…"

"The first year out." Wheeler, K.: "Right."

"In just the beginning." Wheeler, K.: "Well, this is assuming all these things are… which are all magical, by the way… the idea that we could make that $2 million a year in 5 years to pay the $10 million back isn't going to happen. So, this really…"

"They… we've seen it be successful in other states and that's what we're modeling." Wheeler, K.: "Okay. I'm also trying to illustrate for the effect that if you have a $30 million stroke… revenue potential and your… and you can make 5 percent… let's be generous about this… with, again, no overhead… that's 1.5 million a year. In 5 years, you've only given back $7.5 million because you can't compound… you can't invest the money 'cause you have to give it back to the state. So, it's one of two things here. Either you're going to be a not-for-profit company, okay, that has no profit and can never pay the state back. Or we're going to be a for-profit company who still can't make enough money in 10000124.docx 221  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 that period of time to pay the state back. And again, these are numbers that are prove… assume zero overhead. So…"

"But do you have an issue with the payback time? We can amend the Bill to increase the payback time for 10 years versus 5." Wheeler, K.: "I'm just going back through. This is like the sixth time we've debated this. The numbers never really fleshed out until today on the floor, that part won't work. The fact that you're almost assuming that the 330 companies who already provide worker's compensation insurance in the State of Illinois which some would have to be colluding, which is the buzz word of the year, to be able to not lower their prices to be more competitive with each other and get more business. That's an assumption that's being made. And that's not going to be solved by a company that can only write $30 million of insurance a year anyway. So…"

"Well, the reasoning behind this Bill would be a not-for- profit. They… they wouldn't worry about making any money over what the… the employers are actually needing to make to…" Wheeler, K.: "Yeah. But… but a not-for-profit still has marketing overhead. They still have administrative overhead. They still have to pay the light bill, the rent. All those things are still part of a not-for-profit. It's not free. So, realistically…"

"Absolutely. But there's no profit margin over that. And all the other companies had those expenses plus the profit margin. And when you look at the premiums collected by insurance companies that actually is used to pay out benefits, in 2016 it was calculated at 54 percent was used to pay 10000124.docx 222  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 benefits and there was 46 percent, obviously, when you do the math that was not used." Wheeler, K.: "I understand there's other reasons for that by the way. It's not just like it's a one for one option they have to keep in with the reserves. I have to go to the Bill. Thank you for answering the question, Representative. Ladies and Gentlemen, we are back at this again. Somehow going to prove to the state that our State of Illinois can design and run a worker's compensation insurance company better than that 330 companies already doing it in our state. Yes, we have higher worker's compensation costs and it's certainly not because we don't have enough competition. It's because the regulations that we, in this Body, place on those companies that make things too expensive. Please vote 'no'."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Ives for five minutes."

Speaker Turner: "A verification has been requested by Representative Ives. Representative Willis, do you rise in support or opposition of this measure?"

"Support." 10000124.docx 225  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Please proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield, please?"

"The Sponsor indicates that she will yield."

"Representative, is it true that the State of Illinois did a very extensive rewrite of the Workman's Compensation laws just within the last few years or last decade?"

"Yes. In 2011, the benefit cuts including cutting medical fee payments by 30 percent, expanding the use of the American Medical Association guidelines for accessing permanent partial disability benefits, restricting personal… partial disability benefits wage differentials from the age of 67 or five years after an injury, and allowing employers to limit injured workers choice of medical providers. All this put in place was supposed to lower these costs."

"Correct. It was supposed to lower the costs. Have the costs been lowered…"

"Well…"

"…by private insurance companies?"

"Actually, no. Employers are paying about 14.5 percent more in insurance premiums than they were in 2011."

"But on the other side of that, we're also seeing that the claims have gone down throughout the state. So, the number of workman's comp claims have been reduced, but the private insurance companies continue to raise their rates. Is that correct?"

"That's correct. Actually, the average worker comp cost for medical treatment in Illinois are actually 23 percent lower than Indiana, 17.6 percent lower than Wisconsin, and 9.6 percent lower than Iowa." 10000124.docx 226  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Do we have insurance companies… workman's comp insurance companies in the State of Illinois going out of business?"

"None that I know of."

"No. They actually have a very high profit margin. Do we have CEOs of these companies getting bonuses and making a very wealthy paycheck at… yearly or quarterly, however you want to look at it?"

"I'm sorry. Can you repeat the question?"

"I said, do we have the CEOs of this workman's comp private insurance companies making a very wealthy paycheck?"

"I'm sure they do."

"Right. This is why we need to have this. To the Bill. This is something that really needs to come in. We have gone and put in what we figured were best practices. We worked with the industry a number of years ago to come up with stronger parameters 'cause they were crying foul that they were losing money. We did that. They increased their profit margins. They continue to increase their profit margins, but they continue also to reduce the benefits that they're giving to our workers. We are not doing a service to them. This is a… this is what is, in my opinion, probably the best way to do it. Let's put a non-profit company in there where they will be good. We'll make sure that we can save our money, but we can still do the service to our workers throughout the state. I commend you again, Representative, for another good Bill. And I urge this Body to vote 'aye'. Thank you."

"Representative Wehrli, do you rise in opposition to this? You're the third and final speaker on that… on opposition." 10000124.docx 227  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Sponsor will yield. Five minutes."

"Yep."

"Well, I thought it was a great idea otherwise I wouldn't be running it again."

"Unfortunately, it did."

"It got vetoed and we haven't seen anything to relieve worker's comp burden for our employers."

"What would you like to see changed?"

"Well, I…"

"After the fund is paid back, it's no longer the state. It's now…"

"Well, actually, it's not the taxpayers…"

"No. Every year all insurance companies pay into a particular fund and it's part of that fund that we're borrowing from."

"The fund had $28 million in it last year. This is a $10 million loan that would be repaid with interest."

"Ten million loan from the Worker's Compensation Commission Operations Fund."

"It's all insurance companies in the State of Illinois pay into it."

"Well, there's a difference between public and private. And I think, you know, if you look at universities as a business, I think you could look at that as quite a successful business because our universities were strangled for almost two years without getting any funding from the state and they have survived. I don't think most private businesses could go for two years without any funding and still survive." 10000124.docx 229  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Representative Reick is recognized."

"The Sponsor indicates that she will yield."

"The business plan would be created by the seven-member board of directors. And this board would be experts, who are in the field made up of insurance experts and actuarial experts, and based on what we've seen in other states."

"Representative Fine to close."

"Thank you. I disagree with those who are opposed to the Bill. I think this is a business friendly Bill. We all hear from our employers in our districts who are looking for a way to get relief from the growing amounts of money that they have to pay for worker's comp insurance. This is an opportunity. We've seen it work successfully in 27 other states and they're not states that are a liberal bastion. We 10000124.docx 231  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 have many republic states… Republican states that have put this into action. This is something that we should attempt to do here in Illinois. We would put a board together who would organize it. And we would be doing something to help relief for the financial bottom line of many of our employers. And I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Members, a verification has been requested by Representative Ives. Please be at your seat to vote your switch. The question is, 'Shall House Bill 4595 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 62 voting 'yes', 43 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present'… Representative Ives, would you like to persist with your verification? Mr. Clerk, please read the affirmative votes."

"Representative Ives."

"Representative Andrade's down front."

"Representative Costello's in the back."

"The Lady would like to withdraw her Motion. And a count of 62 voting 'yes', 43 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 4595, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4572, Representative Guzzardi. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." 10000124.docx 233  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Representative Guzzardi."

"Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Members. I rise to present House Bill 4572. This addresses a sort of surprising oversight in Illinois's Human Rights Act. At the moment, as we sit here, it is currently legal in most parts of the state to discriminate in small businesses and businesses with 15 or fewer employers. You can be fired, you can be demoted, you can be punished simply for being a woman, or a Muslim, or a Christian, or a veteran. And we seek to redress that… that flaw in our law. We want to expand the right and good protections of the Illinois Human Rights Act to cover businesses of all sizes. The City of Chicago, the county of Cook, and a number of other local communities around the State of Illinois already have human rights ordinances, local ordinances that cover businesses of all sizes. And we've seen in many of those communities thriving and flourishing small business environments. So, I don't think it would be fair to suggest that this is any sort of impediment to the growth of small business. We've also seen a number of other states including many of our neighbors that are here in the Midwest: Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, as well as states like from… excuse me… from Maine to Alaska, from North Dakota to Oklahoma. States across this union that provide the same kind of protection to all employees despite no matter the size of their employer. We believe this is an important stand for us to take as a Legislature that discrimination should be illegal no matter how many people work in your workplace, I ask for 10000124.docx 234  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 your 'aye' vote. And let's take a stand as a General Assembly against discrimination. Thank you."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Breen."

"This in on Short Debate."

"Seeing the requisite amount of hands this will be moved to Standard Debate."

"Representative Ives, do you rise in opposition to this measure? You're recognized for five minutes."

Speaker Turner: "Representative Flowers, do you rise in opposition?"

"Watch this."

"Please proceed, Leader."

"Representative Guzzardi, what is the purpose of this legislation?"

"The purpose of this legislation is to protect everyone in the State of Illinois from discrimination at the workplace."

"Did you say everyone in the State of Illinois?"

"I said everyone, Representative."

"Everyone in the State of Illinois needs to be protected. Well, I agree with you, Representative. And if one person… just one person in this state is discriminated against and that's one too doggone many. And if that… if this is what it takes… it this is what it takes so be it. And let me put business on notice. Don't come to the State of Illinois if you think you going to disrespect any of us. You may as well stay out because there will be a price to be paid. Look at the women, women that who are guilty of wanting to go to work every day just to take care of their families. They are being sexually harassed by people at Ford Motor Company. They are 10000124.docx 238  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 being abused, misused, but yet it is our tax dollars that's keeping that business in business. Not on my watch. And if there's anything that I can do about it, I will change that. So, I stand in support of your legislation, Sir. And I would urge everyone, who respects people, all people, to please join with me and send businesses a message that if you come here there's a protocol that you will respect my mother, my sister, my brother, my dog, and my cat, and any other thing that I may have. Thank you very much. And I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Wheeler, do you rise in opposition or support of this measure?" Wheeler, K.: "Opposition, Sir."

"Please proceed, Representative. You will be the final speaker in opposition." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor indicates that he will yield." Wheeler, K.: "Will, I always look forward to our discussions on the floor."

"As do I." Wheeler, K.: "So, Will, is the Human Rights Act the only mechanism that protects workers in the State of Illinois?"

"Protects workers in what sense, Representative? I wonder what you're… what you're driving at." Wheeler, K.: "From discrimination."

"Well, there's also the federal EEOC, which is sort of layered on top of the Illinois Human Rights Act. But again, bear in mind that the federal employment law also excludes businesses with fewer than 15, in most instances." 10000124.docx 239  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 Wheeler, K.: "Do you suppose there's a reason why they do that?"

"Well, I suppose that there's a reason that 36 other states around the country have instituted further protections beyond the Federal Law because I think they've seen that discrimination should be illegal regardless of the size of your business. While you're waiting, Representative, I just want to briefly say we've… there's been some discussion about business owners and small businesses not liking this. We had conversation in the Labor Committee. I presented a letter from 50 different small business owners in the City of Chicago who already comply with this statute because the City of Chicago has a local ordinance that covers them. And they said that… a report from them, they said that nondiscriminatory and inclusive business practices are good for our neighbors, good for our communities, and good for our businesses. We don't find it burdensome to comply with this law, in fact, it's easy. We just don't discriminate. This is business owners saying this not me, Representative." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you. You know, and I appreciate that. And I applaud all those business owners."

"They do." Wheeler, K.: "But I also don't… I don't know any business owners personally and I was once very involved in one. It has 11 thousand members in the state who've say wow we improved our profits, we extend our market share by discriminating. It's just… it's just unconscionable."

"I agree." Wheeler, K.: "The question that comes from this legislation…" 10000124.docx 240  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"It should have been… also be illegal. I believe the answer is absolutely it should be." Wheeler, K.: "…is are there protections in place for the smallest companies who don't have deep pockets to withstand a frivolous abuse in this? Unfortunately, a part of our real world, sometimes people take advantage of good intentions and they have to defend themselves. And that could be very expensive."

"I'm… I'm thrilled that you asked that question, Representative. I think it's a piece of one of the most important parts of this process, which is that the Department of Human Rights… when someone files a complaint against a business owner, the Department of Human Rights has a year to investigate that complaint. They perform an independent investigation. The business can choose to retain counsel or not during that investigation, but at the end of that investigation, the department issues a report to the Human Rights Commission saying whether the complaint had merit or not. So, the business owners are in fact shielded from frivolous complaints by the process itself. And… and to the point that the previous speaker from Wheaton said that these folks can already sue these employers, they… it's just unfortunately completely factually inaccurate, as I believe you know, Representative." Wheeler, K.: "Well, my point is that most business owners if you've got 5 or 10 employees, and you've spent your entire career trying to build something, and you're trying to protect that and there's a complaint…"

"Most business owners aren't discriminating." Wheeler, K.: "I agree. And so…" 10000124.docx 241  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"I agree totally and they will not be affected by this law in the slightest." Wheeler, K.: "So let's just put it on the record we're all for human rights. We're all for human rights."

"I think they're…" Wheeler, K.: "Understand then…"

"…we're about to put it on the record, Representative. We're going to have a vote on the board as to how we're for human rights or not. Folks who press that red button are going to demonstrate how they feel…" Wheeler, K.: "That's not fair…"

"…about human rights, Representative." Wheeler, K.: "…because there's some intended consequences and that's what I'm trying to put on the record with you is the fact that because as soon as a complaint occurs a smart business who's trying to protect their assets, to protect the resources behind that company and those jobs is going to retain counsel. There's automatically a cost built into it. That is an unfortunate reality of these kinds of situations. I don't know any way around that yet. I'd like to work with you to find that way around that. I understand this is a process we can choose or not choose to retain counsel, but this is such a complicated prospect for most people. Most small businesses don't have an HR director. They don't have a department of people that they can turn to in-house that's already built into cost structure and say, hey, this is how you should proceed. This was a mistake; this was not a mistake; defend this. This…" 10000124.docx 242  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"That's… that's right, they don't. And that's why when we created the Human Rights Act, we created this process, an extensive independent investigation that does not require the retention of outside counsel, at the end of which investigation…" Wheeler, K.: "Will…"

"…there's a report issued as to whether or not the claim had merit." Wheeler, K.: "I… I heard the process. I'm going to tell you…"

"So, I could imagine myself in the position of the small business owner saying I won't retain counsel until the report has been made." Wheeler, K.: "Wait, hold on."

"And if then there's a finding that my…" Wheeler, K.: "No, I'm running out of time here, so I apologize."

"Of course, please, Representative." Wheeler, K.: "My point is this. Worker's comp was designed the same way. We wouldn't have to necessarily have an attorney involved. This has evolved into that kind of a situation. I don't want to see that happen here in the same respect. Ladies and Gentlemen, to the Bill. I do applaud the Sponsor's intentions. I know he's a… he works hard and he's got a great idea in mind here. And he's right in the fact that most businesses don't discriminate. We're… this is an open door to problems we don't need. And unfortunately, I wish I could support the Bill. This time I can't."

"Representative Sente, do you rise in support of this measure?"

"Yes." 10000124.docx 243  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Please proceed."

"I would like to encourage someone to think of maybe this Bill in a different way. It… it disappoints me often when we think of the Democrats are not for business and business being probusiness is only maybe something that is partisan or something on the other side. Interestingly, I spent the last 29 years in a business that had 15 people, 15 to 20 people, and I thought about this piece of legislation a lot. We also talk about business owners as, you know, they're always bad and the employees are good and we kind of take the opposite side. But we know that there is… that's too simplistic. So, I would argue that small business owners, as… as the Bill's Sponsor said, want to do the right thing. Whether it's law or not, I do not consider this as a small business owner, which I still am today, as overly burdensome. I consider this something that I would do on my own and so, whether it's in law or not does not matter to me. I think… I actually did have a HR finance director, but as a small business owner if I didn't have the opportunity to have someone on staff, I would actually get that advice from someone that I would hire and consult, like I would hire my CPA, et cetera. So, I… I did give this careful thought. I commend you for bringing it forward. And I will be supporting the Bill and encourage others to."

"We've heard from three Members of the opposition and three Members in support. Representative Will Guzzardi to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you for the robust debate. I think that this Bill is very simple, Ladies and 10000124.docx 244  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 Gentlemen. Should it be legal to discriminate against women, against Christians, against Muslims, against seniors, against veterans? Should discrimination in this state be legal? Today, as we sit in this chamber, in many businesses across this state it is. That is a wrong that we should correct. No sort of boogeyman arguments about the potential impact on small business should deter us from correcting that wrong. The City of Chicago, the county of Cook already have this in statute and it's not driving small businesses out of those… those areas. Our neighboring states: Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, states all across this country already have this on the books. Blue states, red states and purple states. It is the right thing to do. It is a simple matter of basic human decency for people who, at this moment, have no legal protection. I believe this should be a bipartisan vote. I urge my friends and colleagues on both sides of the aisle to stand in support of this legislation. Thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 4572 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 64 voting 'yes', 37 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 4572, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 4643, Representative Burke. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Burke." Burke, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe that House Floor Amendment #1 would replace the original language of the Bill. And I ask for the Body's favorable consideration."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 4643. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read House Bill 4643."

"Leader Burke." Burke, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. On behalf of over 13 thousand physical therapists in our state, who each and every day work with our constituents… I would be shocked if I didn't believe that every one of you in this chamber doesn't have a physical therapist as a constituent… this Bill will offer this profession the opportunity of equal playing field with 44 other states in this country. Physical therapists will be considered first visits. They will be able to attend to their patients without doctor referral. It's fair. It's equitable. It's the right thing to do. And I would be happy to answer any questions." 10000124.docx 246  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Representative Breen, this Bill is on the Order of Short Debate. You are recognized."

"This Bill will be moved to the Order of Standard Debate. Representative Breen for five minutes."

"Representative Wheeler… Barbara Wheeler, are you rising in support or opposition of this measure?" Wheeler, B.: "I would have loved to have rise in support, but unfortunately, I rise in opposition because this is not what 10000124.docx 248  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 we were promised yesterday during committee. We all came to committee including the representatives for the chiropractors and the representative of the dentist. We had an agreement, Leader. I'm so disappointed. Rules met four times today. We still have tomorrow. I… I would love to be voting for this. I would encourage everyone on our side to be voting for this if you had done what you told us you were going to do. You promised us in good faith that yesterday in committee that these two Amendments were going to be on the floor, which they are not, and I… I'm… I will not believe you, once again, that we can't get this done by tomorrow. I don't want to see this in the Senate. I think we gave you in good faith the chance to pass Floor Amendment… or to get Floor Amendment here was 2 and 3, one for the chiropractors and one for the dentists. I promised them… I gave them my word that we would hold this until today when those Floor Amendments should have been passed. And I know… It's my understanding that Rules met four times today. We had plenty of time to get this prepared and done right. Will you please take this from the record and do this right and not expect the Senate to do this right. That was your promise to us yesterday. That's what I expect today." Burke, D.: "Mr. Speaker, are there Floor Amendments that are still in the Rules Committee?"

"Mr. Clerk."

"Yes, Sir." 10000124.docx 249  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 Burke, D.: "Representative Wheeler, you heard from representatives of both the chiropractic profession and the Dental Association. They have no concern. They trust me. I had said to this Body you have my word that these matters they're more technical than anything else." Wheeler, B.: "You gave me my… you gave me your word yesterday…" Burke, D.: "Absolutely… you…" Wheeler, B.: "…that it would be passed today on the floor and it will not…" Burke, D.: "I have no control over this process. I am just 1 of 118. I can't control this. I want to take care of over 13 thousand practitioners in this state…" Wheeler, B.: "I'm going to say…" Burke, D.: "…that have been denied the same opportunities that 44 other states have had for 20…" Wheeler, B.: "I don't… Why are you getting mad at me?" Burke, D.: "Because you are talking about my word." Wheeler, B.: "Leader… and I'm going to say Leader one more time…" Burke, D.: "You are challenging my integrity." Wheeler, B.: "I am. You told me yesterday…" Burke, D.: "How dare you?" Wheeler, B.: "…you told me yesterday this would be taken care of…" Burke, D.: "I thought it was going to be a very simple…" Wheeler, B.: "…and you are a Leader in the Democratic Party… in the Majority Party. So, Leader, I have a hard time believing that today, after Rules met four times, that you couldn't get your agreed Amendments out." 10000124.docx 250  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 Burke, D.: "All right. Let's… let's call a halt to this. You know me better than what you've just said." Wheeler, B.: "That's why I…" Burke, D.: "I will take this matter out of the record.” Wheeler, B.: Thank you.” Burke, D.: “And I would depend on this Democratic Majority to take care of the 13 thousand decent hardworking physical therapists in our state to give them the same opportunities that 44 other states have." Wheeler, B.: "I look forward to supporting that." Burke, D.: "Mr. Speaker, take this matter out of the record."

"Mr. Clerk, please take this Bill from the record. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 3479, Representative Feigenholtz. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Feigenholtz."

"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to rule the note inapplicable."

"Representative… Representative Feigenholtz moves to deem the fiscal note inapplicable. Representative Breen on that… on that Motion."

"The Sponsor will yield." 10000124.docx 251  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Mr. Breen, I don’t know if you heard about what happened in committee yesterday. And I feel that this issue should be moved to the Senate. There were many, many people who came to committee. Many southern Illinois and rural pharmacists who shared some pretty alarming legislation… information with us about what's going on with small business in this state when it comes to the main street pharmacist and independent pharmacists. So, I'd like to rule this inapplicable and…"

"It is my hope that this is not a expenditure to the taxpayers of the state as it currently is after what we heard in committee. It's… you could talk to some Members of your caucus. Many of them are cosponsors of this Bill because of the grave concern and the closing of doors because of what's been going on in rural parts of the state. Some people don't have access to pharmacists for 50 miles because of this legislation… I mean, because of the circumstances we're living under. So, I'd like to rule this inapplicable."

"Representative Feigenholtz moves to deem the fiscal note inapplicable. All voting… all in support vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 59 voting 'yes', 40 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', this measure, having received more 'yeas' than 'nays', the fiscal note is deemed inapplicable. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Feigenholtz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also would like for this note to be ruled inapplicable."

"Representative Feigenholtz moves that the state mandates note be deemed inapplicable. And on that Motion, Representative Breen is recognized."

"The Lady moves that the state mandates note be deemed inapplicable. All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 58 voting 'yes', 35… 39 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', this Motion, having 10000124.docx 253  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 received move 'yeas' than 'nays', carries. And the state mandates note is deemed inapplicable. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read House Bill 3479."

"Representative Feigenholtz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, again, rise on House Bill 3479 that amends the Illinois Public Aid Code. And the Bill actually, as drafted, talks… I mean, in Illinois we expanded Medicaid. And we, those of us who realized that we would have to go move people into managed care, never really contemplated that this… what is occurring with independent pharmacies across Illinois would come to fruition, which is independent pharmacies around this state are closing their doors. Yesterday, we had a gentleman, Owen Sullivan, who has been in business as an independent pharmacist, who shared information illuminating the disparities in the reimbursement rates. This is an issue of fairness. It's an issue of access. It was demonstrated to us that the system is rigged. And when we contemplated managed care, we did not intend to close and put independent pharmacists out of business. So, I'm prepared to answer any questions."

"This Bill is on the Order of Short Debate. Rep… Representative Breen is recognized."

"This… this Bill will be moved to Standard Debate." 10000124.docx 254  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Five minutes."

"Sponsor indicates that she will yield."

"Mr. Breen, the intent of this Bill is for all managed care and anyone who we entrust with the lives of Medicaid recipients in Illinois."

"We might need to do some clarification on that when this Bill moves over to the Senate."

"Thanks for the…"

"…recommendation, Representative."

"It is." 10000124.docx 255  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"You know, I would ask the Body, especially those Members of this Body who signed on to this Bill, who have heard from the pharmacists who are getting gouged, and who are getting letters from pharmacy benefit managers who are encouraging them to be bought out and literally, paying them less than acquisition costs. The dispensing fees are so significantly diminished I'm not even sure how some of these pharmacists are still keeping their doors open. Many testified yesterday that they are not that we move this Bill to the Senate for further consideration. And I would ask the Members on the other side of the aisle to join me, those especially who signed on as cosponsors, to help move this along so that we have a vehicle."

"So for… for purposes of legislative intent, I'm going to say that, as you said earlier when you were telling me about drafting Bills and how I should do that, that the intent is that it be managed… all managed care organizations."

"I'll let that slide because your wife's a Cubs fan." 10000124.docx 256  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"Chair recognizes Representative Scherer."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I stand in strong support of our small local businesses. This particular one being our pharmacists. I will take our Leader's word that this will come back for all of Illinois. And with that being said, I'm referring to the Lady from Wheaton who talked about Democrats are never probusiness. And yet, this is not my first Bill this season that has been blocked by Republicans and indeed, the Bill is a pro small business. So, perhaps, the issue isn't 10000124.docx 257  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 who's for the people, who's for the working people, the middle class, the poor? It's more, who's for corporate and who's for the people. That's the true question that was left out earlier. In my very own district, which we're standing and sitting in right now, three of my local pharmacists… let me give you an example. One went from being a business of a payroll of $450 thousand to now being a pharmacist that's on unemployment. And we are paying his unemployment, I might add. Another one had to go out of business and sell out to Walgreen's because they came in and bought him at fire price and wanted all of his customers. Another one is hanging by a very thin thread. That's why time is of the essence, Representative. I am pro small business, as are many people on this side of the aisle. And it's time that we quit saying things that are simply not true. Low reimbursement rates are running small locally owned pharmacists out of business. It hurts the low-income families that now have to travel great distances for their medication. How are they supposed to get there? The state is overpaying the PBMs because there's no oversight. And you know it and you will still stand there and vote against it. And it's time that for once we do the right thing because it's the right thing to do not because it's the easy thing. People are watching your vote on this Bill. And I urge you to vote with your constituents not the big corporations that are taking our country over. Thank you. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Demmer's recognized."

"Sponsor indicates that she will yield." 10000124.docx 258  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018

"I believe you're asking the same question as the previous Leader. And the answer is, is that we intend to fix this technical error so that it includes all managed care organizations and pharmacy benefit managers."

"That's what the current language says."

"The conversation, Representative Demmer, will likely include shifting the burden not to Medicaid and their providers, but perhaps to the current profit makers who are debilitating independent pharmacists and then sending out letters encouraging them to be bought out."

"So…"

"I'm not sure what you're asking?"

"The Bill also says that this is to establish, maintain, and provide a fair and reasonable reimbursement rate to pharmacy providers for services, which is not what's happening now."

"The pe… currently, the pharmacies know what the acquisition costs are, but there's no opportunity to negotiate. And I think that that is where the problem is."

"The… we have research charts and costs reports with all of that data that I'm happy to share with you."

"Well, actually, as this Bill moves forward and as the work group works on this, Representative Demmer, that is… you make a good point and it's something we should be addressing."

Speaker Turner: "Representative Halbrook, do you rise in opposition or support to this measure?"

"You'll be the final opposing speaker."

"The Sponsor indicates that she will yield."

"Yes, as previous speakers have asked, I believe two of them, as this Bill moves forward, it is our intention to amend it in the Senate and fix some of the technical aspects of it."

"That would be just a technical change. It should be all seven."

"Well, it is certainly… for legislative intent purposes because, Representative Halbrook, I'm sure that you want to vote with your small pharmacists that's why you co… you are a cosponsor of the Bill. You have my word that this is intended for every MCO. That is just a technical error. But I'm certain you don't want to put your businesses… your pharmacies out of business. Would that be correct?"

"You can decide what you want to do and what kind of message you want to send to your pharmacists, Sir."

"Representative Davidsmeyer, do you rise in opposition or support to this measure?"

"Please proceed. You'll be the final speaker in support."

"Representative Feigenholtz to close."

"Thank you for the robust debate on this very, very important piece of legislation. I respect the technical aspects that were… that were brought up just from some of the speakers. We are going to move this Bill forward because it has such a enormous effect on pharmacists around the state. And I'd appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 3479 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 87 voting 'yes', 16 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present', House Bill 3479, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Members, 10000124.docx 264  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 124th Legislative Day 4/26/2018 on page 37 of the Calendar, we have Motions in Writing. And Leader Currie moves Motions to Table House Bill 1471, House Bill 3522, House Bill 4791. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Motion… the Motion carries. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

"Leader Currie moves that the House adopt the Agreed Resolutions. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolutions are adopted. Mr. Clerk, Adjournment Resolution."

"Leader Currie moves that we adopt the Adjournment Resolution. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. Mr. Clerk, committee announcements."

"And now, allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk, Leader Currie moves that the House adjourn until Friday, April 27, 2018 at 9:00 a.m., Friday, April 27, 2018 at 9:00 a.m. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the House is adjourned."