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Illinois House Floor Debate — November 14, 2018

100th General Assembly (2017-2018) · Legislative day 146
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Michael J. Madigan (D)

"The House shall come to order. The House shall come to order. The Members shall take their chairs. We shall be led in prayer today by Wayne Padget, the Assistant Doorkeeper. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off all cell phones, and rise for the invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance."

Wayne Padget

"Let us pray. Dear heavenly Father, let us thank You for all Your countless blessings and guide our eyes, oh Lord, to see not the fault of others but the goodness they have in their hearts. Father, we ask that You help guide us to the path that we should be on and help take away the burden of worry. And, Father, may we forever be dependent on You for wisdom, guidance, and direction. These things we ask in Your son's name, Amen."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"We shall be led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Representative Fortner."

Fortner - et al

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

Speaker Madigan: "Roll Call for Attendance. Representative Currie. Representative Currie."

Barbara Flynn Currie (D)

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record show that there are no excused absences among House Democrats today."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Mr. Wheeler." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Please let the record reflect that Representatives Phillips, Long, and Unes are excused today." 10000146.docx 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"The Clerk shall take the record. There being 112 people responding to the Attendance Roll Call there is a quorum present. Chair shall recognize Representative Gordon- Booth."

Jehan Gordon-Booth (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I could not be more proud of one of our fellow colleagues who, on last Tuesday, made history here in the State of Illinois as the first African American woman to ever serve as the Illinois Lieutenant Governor, Representative Stratton, Lieutenant Governor-Elect Juliana Stratton. She is going to make us all so incredibly proud… so incredibly proud in that capacity. She's a phenomenal woman and I cannot wait for her to officially be our Lieutenant Governor."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Representative Ives."

Jeanne M Ives (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for a point of personal privilege."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"State your point."

Jeanne M Ives (R)

"I'd like to commemorate the life of Meghan Liddy. She is a Wheatonite who died just a few weeks ago in Ghana where she became ill with malaria. She was age 25. And after having gone on mission trips there, found her calling serving the people of Africa. It is… was her second bought with malaria. She left behind two children that she was a foster parent for there and the family is raising funds to have her body returned at this time. Megan is somebody that all of Wheaton and Illinois should be very proud of. She served others and not herself. And we should always look to her example as how we need to serve each other. Thank you very much. "

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Representative Swanson." 10000146.docx 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Daniel Swanson (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"State your point."

Daniel Swanson (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. All of us in this room have had many titles. I've personally have had many titles of veteran, farmer, superintendent, and now State Representative, along with the many ranks that have been bestowed on me in the military. But today about 10:15 this morning, I started to wear the greatest title anyone can wear and that’s grandpa. My son had a baby girl and her name is Sadie Marie. So, thank you very much."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Representative Severin."

Dave Severin (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege, please."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"State your point."

Dave Severin (R)

"I'd like to welcome in the gallery this afternoon Emily Burke from Walker's Bluff. Her and her staff and friends are here to promote the Walker's Bluff Resort, which will bring… the expansion of that will bring jobs to Southern Illinois. Over 1250 construction jobs, over 800 permanent jobs, it will bring roads to Southern Illinois. And we're just excited about the tourism opportunities and the expansion of that Walker's Bluff. So I'd like to welcome her and her group this morning. If you would give a round of applause to Walker's Bluff. Thank you."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Representative Jimenez."

Sara Wojcicki Jimenez (R)

"Point of personal privilege, Mr. Speaker."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"State your point."

Sara Wojcicki Jimenez (R)

"I would like the members of the General Assembly to welcome my student advisory group who joins us here in the 10000146.docx 3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 gallery. If you guys could stand. These young people are now all seniors in high school in the various high schools here in Sangamon County and they advise me on issues that relate to them and their schools. And I just would like everyone to give them a warm welcome."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Representative Ammons."

Carol Ammons (D)

"I'm sorry, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"State your point."

Carol Ammons (D)

"On this Monday, Veteran's Day, my brother who served 20 years in the Marines lost his mom, my stepmother. She passed on Veteran's Day in East St. Louis. She was… he was the only son of my stepmother. He served 20 years in the Marines. He is certainly devastated at the loss of his mother, my stepmother. And I also want to acknowledge his 20 years in the Marines. For our country. I ask our Members to send words and prayers or condolences to him and to my family for our loss. And I will send to the Clerk where any cards, condolences can be sent. She lived her entire life in East St. Louis where we all grew up at. And she will truly be missed. She was a very kind woman. And I ask for a moment of silence for her."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Representative Wallace."

Litesa E. Wallace (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for a point of personal privilege."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"State your point."

Litesa E. Wallace (D)

"Thank you. I want to echo what Leader Gordon-Booth shared about our new Lieutenant Governor-Elect Juliana Stratton. It has been my absolute pleasure and honor to be your seatmate, sort of, in our row that we shall not name on 10000146.docx 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 public record. But thank you for all that you have done. I cannot wait to see how you exercise all that I know you are going to bring to that role. So, congratulations."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Representative Stratton."

Juliana Stratton (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"State your point."

Juliana Stratton (D)

"First, I want to thank Representative Leader Gordon- Booth as well as Representative Wallace for those for remarks of… congratulatory remarks and for all of the Members of the House for extending your heartfelt well wishes and congratulatory expressions as well. I look forward to working with all of you in the new capacity. I also want to… I invite all the Members of the House to welcome two friends and colleagues of mine from another capacity that I've worked very closely with who are visiting here today. I would ask Jasmine Hooks and Chris Shallow to please stand. And if we could all welcome them I'd appreciate it. Thank you."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Representative David Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you for the indulgence. Point of personal privilege, please."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"State your point." Harris, D.: "Just very briefly. My lovely wife is in the gallery today and I'd like if you would recognize her and give her a warm welcome from the Illinois House. And the second brief point I'd like to make, for those of you who go out every now and then on those acres of green and try to put a little white ball into a cup. I think we ought to recognize an event that took place over the summer where the distinguished colleague from the 80th Representative District, who represents these 10000146.docx 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 wonderful municipalities like Chicago Heights and Olympia Fields, managed to strike the ball but once and it went into the cup. And not only did he do it just for the very first time in his life, but it's actually for the second time in his life. And it's not very often he gets a hole-in-one. So, congratulations."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Representative Halbrook."

Brad Halbrook (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A point of personal privilege, please."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"State your point."

Brad Halbrook (R)

"Thank you. In the absence of my seatmate to my right, I would like to recognize a couple of his constituents that are here today from Mattoon, Illinois. Up to my right in the gallery is Nicholas Doty and Tanner Spears from Mattoon. Let's give them a warm Springfield welcome today. Thank you."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Representative Hammond."

Norine K. Hammond (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"State your point."

Norine K. Hammond (R)

"Behind me in the gallery, joining my husband, Leonard, is a young gentleman from Smithfield, Illinois, Peter Howiter who is here with us today to observe and has a great interest in government. So welcome, Peter."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Representative Ford."

La Shawn K. Ford (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I rise for a point of personal privilege. Recently Illinois and Chicago lost a strong leader Phillip Jackson, a community activist and former CHA leader, died at 68. Phil Jackson was the founder of the Black Star Project. And I have many memories of Phil Jackson teaching black boys how to become 10000146.docx 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 black men. And so I ask that we all here join in a moment of silence, as we remember the legacy that Phil Jackson left for all of us in Illinois. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Ford. Any further announcements? Mr. Clerk, Rules report."

Hollman

Committee report. Representative Barbara Flynn Currie, Chairperson from the Committee on Rules reports the following committee action taken on November 14, 2018: recommends be adopted, referred to the floor is Floor Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 129."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"All right, Ladies and Gentlemen, if I could have your attention. We're going to start on the Order of Total Vetoes, page 6 of the Calendar, and go right down the numbers. I would encourage every Sponsor to call their Motion when they're called because we may not get back to those who do not offer their Motions. So to begin there is House Bill 126, Representative Willis. Representative Willis."

Kathleen Willis (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to have a total override of this Veto. This Bill, when it was passed, was passed overwhelmingly by this area… of this Body. This Bill will… I have three of them that are similar so let me make sure… this Bill will give emergency medical providers in six different areas the same rights as our firefighters under the Public Labor Relations Act. And I urge all people to help me go for an override. Thank you. I will be willing to take any questions."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"The Lady has moved to override the Veto of the Governor. Is there any discussion? Representative Breen."

Peter Breen (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?" 10000146.docx 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Sponsor yields."

Peter Breen (R)

"And, Representative, I know… if you would help us to refresh our recollection as to the particular problem or the issue that was being addressed by your Bill in terms of the paramedics."

Kathleen Willis (D)

"So there are currently 58 full time paramedics employed by 6 different local governments. These paramedics do their daily work and they are full-time employees of these counties. And they… just because of the definition of firefighter, they do not come in to the rights under the Public Labor Relations Act and this would take care of that flaw in the statute right now."

Peter Breen (R)

"And then you had noted that there are six municipalities impacted by this Bill?"

Kathleen Willis (D)

"Yes, there are six local… that is in Brevard county, Union County, the Village of Morton, the cities of Troy, Highland, and Mascoutah. It actually effects only 58 employees."

Peter Breen (R)

"And then have any of those municipalities raised an objection to your Bill?"

Kathleen Willis (D)

"No, they have not."

Peter Breen (R)

"Thank you, Representative."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Representative Ives."

Jeanne M Ives (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. So, you'll probably hear me on this Bill and several others say the exact same thing. There is no flaw in statute. The way the system was set up was the way the system was set up. This is simply a benefit enhancement for public sector unions and you're putting a benefit on some of the worst funded pensions that 10000146.docx 8 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 the world has ever seen. The world. We have a $10 billion local pension problem and this just simply makes it worse. So, I actually encourage you to not override the Governor's Veto. He was right to veto it. The biggest problem we have in the State of Illinois is a pension problem. And anymore it's your pension, your job, or your home. You cannot have all three. And I'm not talking about state pensions, I'm talking about local pensions, which this is a factor in. The other thing that you should be cognizant of, is this perfectly shows you the control that Springfield has over local municipal governments. They had to come to Springfield to fix something that is paid for at the local level. This nonsense has to stop. It has to stop. You need 401Ks for all public sector employees going forward and this is a perfect example of why the Springfield Legislature has far too much control over what happens in local government. I urge you to use some common sense here, stop the benefit enhancement, and vote 'no' on the override. Thank you."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Representative Willis to close."

Kathleen Willis (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill, and the other two that I will be bringing forward today, have absolutely nothing to do with pensions. What it does is it expands the definition of firefighters to include EMS employees. This Bill specifically will allow the EMS to be worked under and negotiated under the Illinois Public Labors Act. It will allow them to be able to bargain without being allowed to strike and would not allow any interruption of EMS service. I urge an 'aye' for the override. Thank you." 10000146.docx 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 126 pass the Veto of the Governor notwithstanding?' This Motion requires 71 votes and is final action. Mr. Clerk, take the record. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 97 'aye', 15 'no'. The Motion, having received the required Three- fifths Majority, the Motion to Override prevails. And House Bill 126 is declared passed, notwithstanding the Veto of the Governor. House Bill 127, Representative Willis."

Kathleen Willis (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is similar to the previous mentioned Bill, but it goes into another section in statute. It goes under the Public Safety Employee Benefit Act. And this will expand and protect our EMS employees if they are catastrophically injured or killed in the line of duty. And this is something that we strongly need to do and to protect our EMS. Again, this Bill passed overwhelmingly the first time and I urge an override 'yes' vote. Again, I stress it does nothing to our pensions. Thank you."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"The Lady moves to override the Veto of the Governor. Is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 127 pass the Veto of the Governor notwithstanding?' This Motion requires 71 votes and is final action. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 98 people voting 'yes', 14 people voting 'no'. The Veto… the Motion, having received the required Three-fifths Majority, the Motion to Override prevails. And House Bill 127 is declared passed notwithstanding the Veto of the Governor. House Bill 1262, Representative Currie." 10000146.docx 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Barbara Flynn Currie (D)

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. This House voted unanimously for House Bill 1262 last spring. The point of the Bill is to say that if a waiver request from the school board could result in a property tax increase then that waiver request should come to this General Assembly. Without this Bill, it's possible that the State Board of Education could approve a waiver request that's going to raise your citizen's property taxes. And I think we all went on record unanimously to say we don't want to let that happen. This is a very limited Bill that only carves out three very specific situations in which a waiver request would come to this Body rather than be left with the State Board or with the smaller panel. I'm happy to answer your questions and I hope you will have a consistent response to this measure as you did last spring."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"The Lady moves to override the Veto of the Governor. Chair recognizes Mr. Breen."

Peter Breen (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Sponsor yields."

Peter Breen (R)

"Thank you. And, Representative, just to really reiterate and clarify, the Governor's Veto message was that he did not want to change the waiver process for these four items which have to do with setting in the statute the maximum local tax rates and then three revenue and interfund transfer provisions. But it's my understanding that we, in the General Assembly, said we don't think that there needs to be this power to raise taxes beyond the statutory limit and that when we dedicate funds to particular purposes that they should be dedicated to those purposes. Is that your recollection?" 10000146.docx 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Barbara Flynn Currie (D)

"That… very well put, exactly right."

Peter Breen (R)

"Fair enough. Okay, I intend to support the override. Thank you."

Barbara Flynn Currie (D)

"Thank you."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"The Lady has moved to override the Veto of the Governor. Those in favor of that Motion will vote 'aye', those opposed will vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. This Motion receives 112 'yes', 0 'no'. The Motion, having received the required Three-fifths Majority, the Motion to Override prevails. And House Bill 1262 is declared passed notwithstanding the Veto of the Governor. House Bill 20… House Bill 3792, Representative Lilly. Representative Lilly."

Camille Y. Lilly (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. I rise to override the Veto of House Bill 3792. It is a strong Bill that really equips our future, our youth for the workforce of America. If we do not spend resources and time in educating our young people about work ethics, work training, work careers we are missing the boat. This Bill is the essence of our economic engine here in the State of Illinois. Please override the Veto."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"The Lady moves to override the Veto of the Governor. The chair recognizes Mr. Breen."

Peter Breen (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Sponsor yields."

Peter Breen (R)

"And, Representative, this was something that was pretty heavily contested in the regular Session. Your Bill adds yet another mandate onto the… it's under the Postsecondary and Career Expectations Section of the… I believe it's under the 10000146.docx 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 Education Code. Could you explain a little more why there is a particular need for this mandate, which I also notice it's not attached with any funding to execute the mandate. What exactly is the purpose of your mandate?"

Camille Y. Lilly (D)

"Thank you, Representative. Firstly, the Bill passed with 70 votes and I think that was overwhelmingly necessary. Two, It's attached to an Act it's called the Postsecondary and Workforce Readiness Act that was introduced in 2016. We are now using their curriculum, their energies to make sure that beginning in sixth grade young people are preparing themselves for their lives. One of the things that are very, very interesting in many of our communityies parents are looking for their children to work as early as 14, 15, 16 and they have no idea of what work is. This particular programs give a reality for the young person and the family what is needed to work in the workforce here in Illinois and in our great country."

Peter Breen (R)

"And then why should this be taught in junior high school instead of having it be taught in high school? Why would we mandate that on local school districts?"

Barbara Flynn Currie (D)

"Young people start working in high school and actually earlier grades with volunteering, with internships. It is important that they understand what work ethic is to them and how it makes them prepared for their careers and their opportunities."

Peter Breen (R)

"To the Motion. Ladies and Gentlemen, it's… certainly every child should be assisted in making the transition to work. Whether that needs to be a burden on our grade school districts where we have grade school districts instead of 10000146.docx 13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 being a choice by a school district about when and how it's appropriate. This Bill would pretty much take that power out of their hands. And so, you know, I noticed in our analysis we've got a list of the various topics that we require courses of study on and those list of topics include Leaf Erickson Day, Irish Famine Study, which is a personal interest of mine, and some others but at the same time telling school districts how and when to make this instruction seems like just a step too far especially when we're not actually funding any of that instruction. So I would respectfully request a 'no' vote."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Mr. Skillicorn."

Allen Skillicorn (R)

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Sponsor yields."

Allen Skillicorn (R)

"Representative, is there anything in current law that prevents local school districts from having this type of training and educational services?"

Camille Y. Lilly (D)

"At this time, we have in place the Postsecondary Workforce Readiness Act that signed in 2016. And this is for certain grades. It is important that we're looking at starting our young people young… early in order to equip them for the future. We start entirely too late and this is reflected in our unemployment rates."

Allen Skillicorn (R)

"Is… again, is there anything in current law that prevents this being part of the curriculum?"

Camille Y. Lilly (D)

"Again, the Postsecondary Workforce Readiness Act was signed into law in 2016."

Allen Skillicorn (R)

"Thank you. To the Bill. I actually really enjoy the enthusiasm about alternative type of education, getting 10000146.docx 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 people real jobs, jobs that pay well, and getting our economy moving. Hundred percent support it. But this is still a local matter and mandates are a real thing, property taxes are too high. Anything we do that adds to property taxes we should be concerned about. These local districts can implement this themselves, they can do it more efficiently than a mandate from Springfield, and I urge a 'nay' vote."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"The Lady has moved to override the Veto of the Governor. The question is, 'Shall House Bill 3792 pass the Veto of the Governor notwithstanding?' This Motion requires 71 votes and is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 67 voting 'yes', 44 voting 'no', the Motion fails. House Bill 4282, Representative Kelly Burke." Burke, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to override the Governor's Total Veto of House Bill 4282. This is… the underlined measure is supported by the Illinois Municipal Conference, as well as, the DuPage Mayors and Managers Conference. I know of no opponents and I ask for your 'yes' vote to override."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"The Lady moves to override the Veto of the Governor. Mr. Breen."

Peter Breen (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Sponsor yields."

Peter Breen (R)

"And, Representative, if you would remind us the specific terms of your Bill, because this was… it looked like a partisan split in the regular Session on this particular measure. 10000146.docx 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 Burke, K.: "It was not a partisan split. There were three Republicans who voted on this on… in the underlying Bill and it passed the Senate 58 to 0. This is a Bill which sets forth an additional criteria when a property owner seeks to disconnect from a municipality… an additional criteria for the court to use in determining whether or not to grant the disconnection petition."

Peter Breen (R)

"And what is the additional criteria?" Burke, K.: "If the property is contained in an existing TIF district then they can't disconnect."

Peter Breen (R)

"So this would… for any property that's in TIF district they are barred from disconnecting that property. They would then… the municipality would then be barred from disconnecting?" Burke, K.: "The property owner would be disconnected… would be barred from disconnecting from the municipality during the life of the TIF district."

Peter Breen (R)

"Which could be 23 to 35 or so years, right?" Burke, K.: "Whatever the… Whatever the length of that particular district is."

Peter Breen (R)

"To the Motion. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is one of those in the flurry of Bills that we considered in regular Session that a municipality, if they wanted to restrict a piece of private property, could TIF it and then prevent them from disconnecting from the municipality. This is something that just seems like a step too far on a restriction of private property rights. And as much as I understand and respect the Sponsor and her intent in this, I don't see the reason to add this as another power of a municipality to be exercised 10000146.docx 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 through the TIF process to restrict the rights of private property owners to disconnect."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Mr. Skillicorn."

Allen Skillicorn (R)

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Sponsor yields."

Allen Skillicorn (R)

"Representative, is this a… directly to this Bill, what it's concerning. Is this a residential area?" Burke, K.: "It would pertain to whatever area is in the TIF district."

Allen Skillicorn (R)

"And I realize it's the 90 square acres, but I'm talking about specifically… it was drafted the concern this was at Chippewa Ventures." Burke, K.: "I'm unfamiliar with Chippewa."

Allen Skillicorn (R)

"Okay. To the Bill. It appears that in my analysis here, it has to do with specifically Chippewa Ventures, which is… appears to be a residential area. But my curiosity is that a TIF district prevents other taxing bodies, an example the school district, for not getting increment. So, if a residential area has children those children do not have any… their education's not paid for. You know, when there's no increment that means the school district goes along, does not get increment on the property for a residential area. It means that other people that live in the school district subsidized the education of the children who live there and it's not paid for. And then… further, I think that we do need significant TIF reforms. We have to address these issues and I would love to work with the Sponsor on this, but I don't think this is the right avenue. I urge a 'no' vote."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Mr. Andersson." 10000146.docx 17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Steven A. Andersson (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'll speak to the Bill. I remember the debate on this issue the last time. I understand the City of Chicago (unintelligible) desire, but this is a blanket statute. It affects the factors for disconnection. Understand, in my view, this is not a TIF debate. This is not about whether you like TIF's or dislike TIFs. This is a question of how we do disconnections from municipalities in Illinois. Right now there's a factor analysis. What the chord or what the statute requires is that you look through the underlying impact to the municipality in determining whether or not disconnection should be allowed. So they look at how the overall shape of the village will be left, whether there will be significant damage to the municipality's tax base, the valuations, whether their bond… bonding is impacted by it. And then the court takes all of that into effect, rolls it all into a ball, and makes a determination. And if this Bill added the TIF as one of those factors I would have no problem voting for it, in fact I suggested that. But the Bill has not been amended to reflect that. So now we have one factor, whether a TIF exists or not, that will kill a disconnection. That's not a good practice. It should be one of the factors, no problem with that, but as drafted it kills a disconnection without any other reasoning. As such, I recommend a 'no' vote. Thank you."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Representative Ives."

Jeanne M Ives (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. So the other part that people should be concerned about here, this is a property rights issue. So whether or not your property is assumed into a TIF is not always the property owner's determination. They 10000146.docx 18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 may be forced into a TIF against their will. So, in this case, it is just exactly the scenario that Representative Breen laid out. You could literally have municipalities overreach, put property into a TIF, and then further prevent that property owner from doing what he wants with his property. Now, our nation was built on capitalism and fundamental to that is property rights. This is certainly an overreach into property rights. And you cannot just do this, on a one-off basis, for one municipality who thinks that they're going to have a problem with this. And, in fact, I see the reverse happening. It's quite possible that the local governments, typically school districts which make up 70 percent of the property tax value, will actually see an enhancement in their revenue if they are… if this particular piece of property is disconnected and developed outside of a TIF. That could actually be a boon to the school districts. So I really urge a 'no' vote on this. It's a very technical Bill, it's something maybe some folks are unaware of, but to protect property rights a 'no' vote is appropriate. Thank you."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Representative Burke to close." Burke, K.: "This legislation is supported by both the IML and the DuPage County Mayors and Managers. It's a good Bill and I urge a 'yes' vote."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 4282 pass the Veto of the Governor notwithstanding?' This Motion requires 71 votes and is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 73 'ayes', 35 'no'. This Motion, having received the required 10000146.docx 19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 Three-fifths Majority, the Motion to Override prevails. And House Bill 4282 is declared passed notwithstanding the Veto of the Governor. House Bill 4280, Representative Hammond. Representative Hammond."

Norine K. Hammond (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A point of personal privilege."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"State your point."

Norine K. Hammond (R)

"In the gallery on the… behind the Democratic side of the aisle are a group of junior and senior students from Illini Central High School in Mason City together with their with their faculty members and some of them over here as well. And so, if we could give them a warm Springfield welcome."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"House Bill 4284, Representative Chapa LaVia."

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. I move to override the Governor's Veto on House Bill 4284. And what it did it required three of the nine board members of the State Board of Education who would be representative of the educators' community. I'll take any questions."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Mr. Breen."

Peter Breen (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Sponsor yields."

Peter Breen (R)

"And, Representative, is this done in any other state where we restrict the membership of the State Board of Education in this way?"

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"There's five other states that do this."

Peter Breen (R)

"Well, but there are… we know national… there's no national precedent for this sort of thing. And the members of the State Board of Education are already installed with the consent of the Senate. And so where is the driving need to restrict the Governor's appointment authority in this way?" 10000146.docx 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"Well this came through the educator's community. They're not present at the Board right now and it’s the Board of Education. Don't you think it would be very prudent for us to make sure that somebody that knows about education, that's certified in education, that has a pedagogy in education is able to sit at the table to make sure they are representing the entire State of Illinois as far as the teaching communities? I understand the Governor vetoed it, but that doesn't mean it's right."

Peter Breen (R)

"I think we…"

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"And it came out of here by 88 to 19."

Peter Breen (R)

"…I think we've shown very clearly today that we are not following a veto just because the Governor vetoed it. So we are acting quite independently today, Representative. The issue is whether this is a good long term plan for the people of the State of Illinois. We're going to have a new Governor in a couple… well a few weeks. So…"

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"Right."

Peter Breen (R)

"…that Governor would be restricted by your Bill as well. And…"

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"Well…"

Peter Breen (R)

"…we just don't… I don't see the point of doing this at tying the Executive branch's hands. To the Motion. Ladies and Gentlemen, I understand this was something that the Illinois Federation of Teachers and the Chicago Teachers Union and others wanted to see in terms of trying to change the composition of the State Board of Education. But there has not been any need identified for this and it's something that… I don’t know the intent on the original Bill, maybe it was 10000146.docx 21 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 meant to tie the hands of Governor Rauner. But certainly going forward, there is no reason to tie the hands of Governor Pritzker and every other Governor to come from this point forward. I would respectfully urge a 'no' vote."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Representative Wallace."

Litesa E. Wallace (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Sponsor yields."

Litesa E. Wallace (D)

"Thank you. I want to start by saying thank you very much for this particular piece of legislation given the fact that educators tend to be viewed as different or less than other professionals. Are you aware of other professional boards that allow for nonmembers of that profession to make major decisions about that profession?"

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"Okay let me… regurgitate that. So, do I know of any other boards that have to do with certain professions but that profession is not on that board; therefore their voice isn't heard? No, I don't."

Litesa E. Wallace (D)

"Right. And but… and typically when we are comp… compiling or making boards that are related to a particular profession we seek individuals from that profession because of they're expertise. Is that…"

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"Correct."

Litesa E. Wallace (D)

"All right. So to the Bill. We heard a lot about this notion of tying the Executive Branch's hand as it appoints for this particular board. But I think that we have to be clear about the fact that business people are not always educators; other professions are not always educators. And while we all do come through an educational system, it is those among us who have taken the great time and care to go 10000146.docx 22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 through school, become professionals at the bachelors, masters, doctoral levels at what it takes to educate the next generation. I believe that a three person presence on this particular board absolutely makes sense. And I would encourage everyone to think about their own respective professions outside of this chamber and ask to themselves would they be wanting to answer to or take recommendation from a group of individuals who have never performed the duties associated with that profession? I encourage an 'aye' vote on this override."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Representative Ives."

Jeanne M Ives (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Sponsor yields."

Jeanne M Ives (R)

"I remember when this House… this passed the House the first time and I just wanted to cover a couple more grounds. So is there anything in your Bill that basically says… I mean our analysis says it has to be a district superintendent, principal, school business official. So could… could that be the principal of St. Michael School in Wheaton?"

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"Yeah, well right now the way the Bill is written, Representative Ives, is that those three members one has to be from Cook, one has to be from a collar county, and one has to be from down state. But they have to be within the educators' community not the administrators or the superintendents."

Jeanne M Ives (R)

"Our analysis says it could be a principal or a district superintendent, correct?"

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"Let me…"

Jeanne M Ives (R)

"So could you be a private teacher and be on this board?" 10000146.docx 23 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"You're asking like a parochial school?"

Jeanne M Ives (R)

"Yes."

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"You're still a teacher. So, yes, you could have the possibility of being on this board."

Jeanne M Ives (R)

"You could be a principal of a private school?"

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"I'm sorry, I stand corrected from earlier it does say principal or superintendent. So I'm…"

Jeanne M Ives (R)

"Yes, it does. Okay, very good. So you could be in the… a private school. Wheaton Academy for example, Benet Academy you could…"

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"Right. And they receive state dollars now, right, with that new…"

Jeanne M Ives (R)

"Some do, some don't."

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"Right. So, yes, they could.

Jeanne M Ives (R)

"So they could be on this board as well?"

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"They could be if they're selected, Ma'am.

Jeanne M Ives (R)

"Okay great. I'm still opposed to the board but I wanted to know that for clarification. Thank you."

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"Thank you."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Representative Chapa LaVia to close."

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"Thank you, Speaker and thank you Members for the debate. It passed out of the House last time with 88 votes. I deeply request your support on this especially because the education community deserves a seat at the table. Thank you."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 4284 pass the Veto of the Governor notwithstanding?' The Motion requires 71 votes and is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 85 10000146.docx 24 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 people voting 'yes', 27 voting 'no'. This Motion, having received the required Three-fifths Majority, the Motion to Override prevails. And House Bill 4284 is declared passed notwithstanding the Veto of the Governor. House Bill 4645 Representative David Harris. Representative Will Davis."

William Davis (D)

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I move to override the Governor's Veto for House Bill 4645, which is the Bill to extend the sunset date for the CON process for the state. I'd be more than happy to answer any questions."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Mr. Breen."

Peter Breen (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Sponsor yields."

Peter Breen (R)

"Representative, would you just explain to the Body what your Bill does. As I understand it, it is just a straight 10 year extension of the Certificate of Need process in Illinois."

William Davis (D)

"That is correct."

Peter Breen (R)

"Okay. So, we're not fixing any of the problems, that all of us agree are in the current system, that has caused us so much trouble in our state?"

William Davis (D)

"Well, to my knowledge there haven't been any problems with the sale and process in recent time. There were some issues previously, but there haven't been any problems, at least since I've been working with the Health Facilities and Services Review Board with regard to any of their legislation."

Peter Breen (R)

"Right. I'm informed that our Certificate of Need process is one of the worst in the country, and I know there are other Members who probably can speak to it as well. It's certainly 10000146.docx 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 one of the most restrictive. It's hurting our ability to provide quality medical care to folks."

William Davis (D)

"Of course I would disagree with that. If anything, one of the great things that this process provides is to make sure that if a hospital decides that they want to build a new facility, and they're going to leave an underserved area, that it helps to guarantee that there is still services left in the underserved area where they want to, you know, relocate from for lack of a better way of putting it."

Peter Breen (R)

"And that's certainly a good goal but it's also supposed to protect innovation and help new people come in in places that… where you don't have the underservice issue. You have this issue of entrepreneurs and others want to start new facilities, and the Certificate of Need process in Illinois can be used to gravely harm those folks. And the problem is if we are going to sit here and just do a blanket 10 year extension without any sort of fix then why would we do that? You've got another year to go I think on this…"

William Davis (D)

"Well…"

Peter Breen (R)

"…before we have to make the extension."

William Davis (D)

"Well, I guess I would say that if there are Members who are interested in fixing, if you will, then to my knowledge nobody has introduced a piece of legislation. I know that the Illinois Hospital Association, which does support this Bill, is interested in doing some reform measures with regards to the CON process. My guess is that a Bill will be filed next Session in order to try to accomplish that, but in the meantime we have a process that's in place, that's working, 10000146.docx 26 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 projects are being approved, hospitals are being built, and we'd like to extend the sunset date of that process."

Peter Breen (R)

"And just to be clear, the sunset date currently is not until December 31 of 2019. So we don’t have to… nothing happens at the end of this year if we don't extend the sunset via a veto override, correct?"

William Davis (D)

"Correct."

Peter Breen (R)

"Okay. Thank you. To the Motion. Ladies and Gentleman, as you heard from the debate, we do have some reforms that need to be made. And the whole point of extending a sunset date before we've got the reforms in hand doesn't seem to make sense to me. I know there are a variety of folks who will speak to this issue, but as for me I will be voting 'no' on the Motion."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Mr. David Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Question of the Sponsor."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Sponsor yields." Harris, D.: "Thank you. Just to clarify once again, Representative, the current deadline for the Health Facilities Planning and Services Review Board is December 31 of 2019. Is there a reason why you feel that you have to do this now versus wait until the new General Assembly?"

William Davis (D)

"Well, I am advancing this Bill on behalf of the Health Facilities Board, which sought to go ahead and seek an extension of the Board." Harris, D.: "Okay."

William Davis (D)

"Could it wait to 2019? I won't say that but I don't think we are breaking any new ground here with issues that have a sunset date, And before we get to that sunset date there is 10000146.docx 27 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 an effort to try to push that sunset date out a little further." Harris, D.: "And any reason why it has to be a 10 year extension versus a 5 year extension or a shorter extension?"

William Davis (D)

"Well, I think… to some degree, even with regards to the previous Representative's questions, I think there's a need for certainty. And I think the 10 year date offers a higher level of certainty with regard to our process. And again, working with the Hospital Association, which I eluded to that does support this measure, they are very much interested in working to try to bring reforms to this process. Which if… for those that say that there are… I wouldn't say problems but like with anything over time there is always a need to possibly reform a process. And they want to work collaboratively to reform the process. I definitely want to work with them to do so. But I think with regard to what we have in place, the idea of looking at a longer sunset date also provides those systems an opportunity to plan out. It's my understanding that sometimes they plan out those moves upwards of three, four, five, six years ahead of time. So if we know that at least for the next 10 years we have a process in place, and I think that provides a greater level of certainty for those systems as they are looking at trends and looking at how the health care system is going to move forward, it gives them certainty of what's going to happen in Illinois at least for the next 10 years. Harris, D.: "Okay. And just three brief questions. Of the Certificate of Need applications that are submitted, what's the percentage that are approved, roughly?" 10000146.docx 28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

William Davis (D)

"I honestly don't know the answer to that question. I…" Harris, D.: "My… if you…"

William Davis (D)

"…I think…" Harris, D.: "If you… If you do some checking I think you will find that it's probably 98 and a half to 99 percent of the Certificate of Need applications are approved. I might be off slightly, but only slightly."

William Davis (D)

"Okay." Harris, D.: "Second… next question. If indeed a hospital or a health care provider wanted to cease services in an area, which is a legitimate concern folks need health care services, can't they do that now without going through the CON Board? It's my understanding that they can."

William Davis (D)

"Well, I know there are some types of exemptions. I don't know if… if they are going to reduce beds in one area or build another facility in another. I don't know if they can just do that without going through the CON… I don't know." Harris, D.: "Well and it's not just… it's not just…"

William Davis (D)

"It's not my understanding that they can because…" Harris, D.: "Okay. We may… we may have a different opinion…"

William Davis (D)

"We may." Harris, D.: "Lastly this… could this not be the last time we talk about this issue between you and me?"

William Davis (D)

"It is and it's certainly be a pleasure having this debate for the last several years." Harris, D.: "Thank you. Thank you. Ladies and Gentleman of the House, just very briefly. The Certificate of Need process, which is handled by the Health Facilities Planning and Services Review Board, quite frankly is nothing more than a 10000146.docx 29 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 bureaucratic hurdle that every health care provider has to get over if they want to do something. It is costly, again it is bureaucratic, and as… if you look at the records 98 and a half to 99 percent of the applications are approved. So, why do you need a body that's going to approve everything and extend it for another 10 years? And along those lines, anyone who is familiar with health care knows it is a very dynamic business and it's changing rapidly. Look at the merger we had recently between our largest health care provider, Advocate Health Care, with a system up in Wisconsin. And my point there is, you're setting in stone a bureaucratic process which is a hurdle that is costly in terms of personnel, costly in terms of legal services, costly on all those terms. You're setting in stone for another 10 years a… a bureaucratic obstruction to do something that no other business really has. So I encourage you to look at this. I encourage a 'no' vote on the override. It doesn't have to be done this year. We can come back next year. We can make changes to the… to the CON process that are beneficial both to the people of the State of Illinois as well as to those health care providers that are providing those services. And I would think… I urge you to think carefully before you cast your vote and I believe that the right vote is a 'no' vote. Thank you."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Mr. Wehrli."

Grant Wehrli (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Sponsor yields."

Grant Wehrli (R)

"Representative Davis, first let me start by saying thank you, you took some time to meet with me this morning to discuss this Bill and I appreciate your open door. Thank you 10000146.docx 30 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 for that. I was originally a 'no' on the underlying Bill but after our conversation, and you… I've heard it out here on the floor as well, that you are willing to work with the Illinois Hospital Association to address some of the concerns that may or may not exist anymore. I know in my district a couple of administrations ago it was an issue with Edward Hospital in Plainfield that there are some clean up things that we need to do. So thank you for the open door policy. I'm going to vote 'yes' to override this Veto and I look forward to working with you collaboratively to fix what we can going forward."

William Davis (D)

"Thank you."

Michael J. Madigan (D)

"Mr. Turner in the Chair."

Deanne M. Mazzochi (R)

"May I speak to the Bill? I'm sorry, to the Motion?"

Arthur Turner (D)

"Please go right ahead."

Deanne M. Mazzochi (R)

"Thank you. One thing that I would like to note is that in my district, which is populated by many medical facilities, women are still obligated to wait months to actually schedule a mammogram as part of their regular screening facilities. One of the reasons why they can't get their time and their screening quickly, which has negative health impacts, is because there's not enough time, there's not enough instruments, and there's not enough screeners available. If a local diagnostic facility wants to expand the number of screens available they can't do that without going through this bureaucratic process. This… we should end this, we should reform this in the next Assembly because women's health and other peoples' lives are at stake. Thank you."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Fortner." 10000146.docx 31 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Mike Fortner (R)

"Thank you, Speaker. I'd like to speak to the Motion and maybe expand a little on comments made by my colleague from Arlington Heights. I think that… well let me first go back. I was a relatively new legislator when we last went through the extension of this Act. Setting it for 10 years bringing us to an extension that would end at the end of next year. At that time I recall discussions and debates about the fact that there were aspects of the delivery of medical services that were changing. It is a dynamic field. We are seeing a lot of growth in the area of specialized outpatient type clinics, urgent care centers. How do they fit into this model that was often driven by larger more centralized facilities? Was it at all clear? And there was certainly discussion that we probably ought to be doing something about it. Well here we are a decade later, and I don't feel we've really addressed changes that have continued to be made, other types of specialized services, consolidations within the hospital industry probably beyond what many of us imagine were going to happen 10 years ago. These are all real substantial changes to how health care is delivered and using a board that I think really belongs in a past era of how we deliver health care. I'd like to see us really sit down, really say, How do we best deliver these services in the 21st century? Let's not just go right ahead and do an extension. Let's take the time and really look and see where health care is today and make sure we're delivering it in the best possible way for the people of Illinois. I urge a 'no' vote."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Demmer."

Tom Demmer (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"? 10000146.docx 32 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Arthur Turner (D)

"Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

Tom Demmer (R)

"Representative Davis, when this Bill originally came up this spring I spoke in opposition to the Bill and I voted 'no' on it at the time. Today I'm in a position to support your Motion for the override of the Veto, but I want to talk a little bit about why that's the case. As has been mentioned by a few different speakers through the course of this discussion, some people have brought up some suggestions that the Certificate of Need process, there might be somethings we could do to change it to make it more responsive to the conditions we find ourselves in. The Bill that you have extends the sunset of that but it doesn’t get to that second piece of issues. I just want to have a discussion between the two of us. Is this something we can work on in a bipartisan way over the next General Assembly?" Davis: "Well, the simple answer to your question is yes, but let me just add, again, if there has been a desire to bring forth reforms, nobody has ever spoke to me about it. So I think there has always been a willingness, if there was a need for reforms to have a dialogue about it. To my knowledge, no one has ever approached the agency about it, not myself. Again, I know the IHA, I guess based on their broad look across the country, sees how things can be improved here in Illinois. So I think there's always been a willingness, but we just haven’t gotten there yet. But next Session we will definitely get there."

Tom Demmer (R)

"Good. I appreciate that willingness. You know, one of the examples that I cited, and when we talked about this last spring, was right now we're in the middle of a Hospital 10000146.docx 33 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 Transformation Review Committee. As a partisan outgrowth of the Hospital Assessment Plan that we passed last year some hospitals find themselves in need of making some changes. We identified, during the negotiation of the Hospital Assessment Bill, that the Certificate of Need process would be sort of redundant or maybe would be an extra step that one or some of these hospitals. We want to alleviate them from having to take that step to make it easier for a hospital who has a desire to transform, to better serve their community, to be exempted from the Certificate of Need process so they could do so in a quick and efficient manner. As our discussions in the Hospital Transformation Committee have continued, I think it's important that we revisit that topic to make sure that perhaps not just hospitals who officially qualify for hospital transformation funding, who get a plan that's officially approved by the Department of Healthcare and Family Services or others. I see a need for many other facilities in Illinois to begin to change the types and scope of services that they offer to be better positioned for what happens in phase two or phase three of the program. So I think it's something we should look at to say as health care providers start to do some planning for how they can best serve their communities in the future. We don't want the state to hinder their ability to meet the needs of their community. We don't want to have an extra cost or another layer of bureaucracy that stands between them. So as we look at… you know, again I'm going to support the Motion to Override today to continue this program into the future. But I think it’s really important that for any program to be successful, we as 10000146.docx 34 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 legislators continue to review the parameters of the program, the functions, consider exemptions where appropriate, and try to look for reforms that will move us in the right direction. So I appreciate your willingness to continue to work on that. I'm certainly going to be paying close attention in the next year and working on a legislative option to provide greater flexibility, greater market access for people across the state to make sure that the health care needs of people in Illinois are met. I encourage a 'yes' vote today. And again, that's a change from where I was before but I think it is appropriate to strike a balance of extending the sunset on this Act while continuing to maintain an ongoing conversation about how things can get better. Thank you."

William Davis (D)

"Thank you."

Arthur Turner (D)

Speaker Turner: "Thank you. Chair recognizes Representative Riley."

Al Riley (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. The National Health Planning Act that created all of this and the Certificate of Need process was passed in, I think, the 93rd Congress. Ninety-third Congress that was forty-four or forty-five years ago. But what they thought about it that time then still applies now. One of the reasons why they came up with that piece of enabling legislation at the federal level was to engage in cost containment. And I think that still is true today. And we're talking about restricting people, restricting… no, no what we are trying to do is be fiscally responsible and fiscally conservative in terms of what different entities that want to do things in the hospital. CAT scanners or whatever the case may be… adding new types of 10000146.docx 35 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 facilities to a hospital there has to be that kind of oversight. And basically that's what this is all about. How can someone be against that? Now, frankly speaking, if you look at problems that have existed in the past something that no one ever talks about is the appointment process. It's extremely important to get the right people on these boards and I think that some of the problems that we've had in the past had nothing to do with methodology, had nothing to do with philosophy, it had to do with who was on those boards. So we really have to… if you are going to go back in history, we really have to look at what the true problems are. I think that this is a good thing to do to extend the sunset date and we can have a lot of other discussions about how we can make changes. But I think that the original intent of the federal legislation is still sound and I think that going forward, certainly, we should look at other concerns, but that’s the main concern that I think that we should look at. I'm supporting this Bill, vote 'aye'."

Arthur Turner (D)

Speaker Turner: "Seeing no further discussion, the Chair recognizes the Sponsor, Representative Davis, to close."

William Davis (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I certainly want to thank all the Members for their questions, their comments, their concerns. And if my word means anything to anyone in this chamber I can assure you that we will engage in a very robust and very thoughtful and meaningful conversation about what reforms for the CON process could and should look like. I certainly want to thank Representative Demmer, Representative Wehrli for his interest in making sure that we move that conversation forward. And who knows, maybe we might be able to entice 10000146.docx 36 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 Representative Harris to comeback in some way to help engage in this conversation and bring some thoughtful incite to it as well. So nevertheless I appreciate the comments that have been made and I ask for a 'yes' vote to override the Governor's Veto."

Arthur Turner (D)

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 4645 pass the Veto of the Governor notwithstanding?' This Motion requires 71 votes and this is final action. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 89 voting 'yes', 21 voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present', this Motion, having received the required Three-fifths Majority, the Motion to Override prevails. And House Bill 4645 is declared passed notwithstanding the Governor's Veto. House Bill 4657, Representative Manley."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to override the Governor's Total Veto of House Bill 4657. House Bill 4657 creates a task force to… to recommend a curriculum and assessment of guidelines to consider emotional intelligence for students K through 12."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Breen."

Peter Breen (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Arthur Turner (D)

"Sponsor indicates that she will yield."

Peter Breen (R)

"Thank you, and Representative, I supported your Bill the first time through, but I do want to ask… you know, the Governor did make an interesting point which is when are we going to stop creating task forces?"

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"I guess when we get everything figured out." 10000146.docx 37 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Peter Breen (R)

"And I guess there was another objection to it which was that apparently it was a bit vague about how the structure of the thing would be done. What is the structure of this particular task force?"

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Well if you would look on your analysis, the structure, it has different people that have different qualifications in the education field, the mental health field and they come together. It is at no cost to the taxpayers. I do see that they can file… members of the task force can file for reimbursement, but I've got to tell you the task force that I've been on most of the members, at least in my experience, rarely file for reimbursement. I think people that get asked to be on a task force for a particular reason do so because they believe in the subject matter that's being looked at. And this is the first time we've actually had one looking at emotional intelligence."

Peter Breen (R)

"Fair enough. Thank you, Representative."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Thank you."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Representative Ives is recognized."

Jeanne M Ives (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. The only task force I want now is a task force on task forces. Because we never… I'd like to have a consolidated list of every single task force that's been ran in the last decade and then I'd like to see every single report, how many extensions it's had, what legislation ever came out of it. So enough of this. I mean this is just another task force. Nobody's going to actually do anything about the problem here 'cause the problem resides in the home. Social emotional learning starts in the home. So 10000146.docx 38 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 why don't we start talking about a task force on parenting and families? Let's do that one instead."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Representative Andersson is recognized."

Steven A. Andersson (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'll speak to the Bill. Number one, this question of task forces. I never realized we were going to debate the value of task forces. I happened to have sat on a task force called the Criminal Assessment Task Force. That resulted in the largest rewrite that you all participated in passing this last spring. We completely redid how fines and fees are done in the State of Illinois, made a huge difference. It was a result of a bipartisan and bicameral task force that included the Judiciary and the Executive Branch. Made a big difference in our world. So number one, thank you for that. Task forces do matter. Number two, the underlying Bill here, the task force on social emotional learning, there could be nothing more important for us to look at. How our children are dealing with the ever challenging world that they're presented with that we did not have to grow up in is truly a challenge and we all know there's a mental health crisis out there. This helps address it please vote 'yes'."

Arthur Turner (D)

Speaker Turner: "Seeing no further discussion, the Chair recognizes the Sponsor, Representative Manley, to close."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Please vote 'yes'. Thank you everybody."

Arthur Turner (D)

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 4657 pass the Veto of the Governor notwithstanding?' The Motion requires 71 votes. This is final action. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye'; all opposed by voting 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all 10000146.docx 39 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this Motion there are 92 voting 'yes', 18 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. And the Motion, having received the required Three-fifths Majority, the override prevails. And House Bill 4657 is declared passed notwithstanding the Governor's Veto. House Bill 5221, Representative Willis."

Kathleen Willis (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is the final and the third one dealing with our paramedics getting the rights of firefighters. This has to do with the Public Employee Disability Act. It allows these small number of paramedics to get the same rights that firefighters would if they were injured on the job at… to do with workers compensation. It does not have anything to do with pensions. I urge an 'aye' vote on the override. Thank you."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Ives."

Jeanne M Ives (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. Yeah, this has everything to do with pensions just like the previous two Bills because anytime you add these folks to the collective bargaining units you're going to have enhanced pension obligations on the local level. It absolutely has everything to do with the pension crisis that we're experiencing. So it's completely disingenuous to disconnect the two of them. Whenever you add folks onto additional… units of government that have to comply with all these additional rules, and paramedics would now have these additional benefits as well, you're going to add to the cost for local government. Whether its pensions, whether it's being part of (unintelligible), it all adds to the cost and that goes directly to your property tax." 10000146.docx 40 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Arthur Turner (D)

"Representative Willis to close."

Kathleen Willis (D)

"I urge an 'aye' vote on the override please."

Arthur Turner (D)

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 5221 pass the Veto of the Government notwithstanding?' This Motion requires 71 votes. This is final action. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye'; all opposed by voting 'nay', the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this Motion there are 95 voting 'yes', 14 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. And this Motion, having received the required Three-fifths Majority, the override prevails. And House Bill 5221 is declared passed notwithstanding the Governor's Veto. Members, on page 8 of the Calendar under Amendatory Vetoes we have House Bill 4163, Representative Moeller. Out of the Record. House Bill 4515, Representative Swanson. Please proceed, Sir."

Daniel Swanson (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that House Bill 4515 do pass the Governor's specific recommendation for change notwithstanding. Illinois isn't ready for what's about to come. It's been stated that estimated cases of Lyme tick related diseases are 59,349 nationwide. An increase of 11 thousand over 2016. CDC also acknowledges that their estimate may be 10 times under estimated. So in fact, we're growing at a rate of 593,490 tick incidences a year. You may recall this Bill as the Lauryn Russell Lyme Disease Prevention and Protection Law. Lauryn Russell is a 12-year-old, now 13, young lady with Lyme disease from Mercer County Illinois. Lauryn, along with her mom Jennifer and many others, have worked tirelessly on this legislation. This Bill has basically two 10000146.docx 41 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 parts. The Governor's Amendatory Veto included part two only. Part one establishes a task force to develop education plans for doctors and awareness information for Illinois residents on prevention practices and techniques. Part two allows doctors to treat outside CDC protocols when treating Lyme patients. CDC protocols allow up to 21 days of prescribed antibiotics for disease that's normal life cycle is 28 days. Timing is extremely important when treating Lyme. Dr. Ying Zhang from John Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health spoke at the annual Lyme disease in the Era of Precision Medicine Conference on October 2 and 3, 2018. And based on years of study recommended tuberculosis treatment as a model for Lyme treatment, stating there are a lot of relevancies and similarities. Current treatment of tuberculosis is three different antibiotic therapies at one time for no less than 6 months to 12 months to attack all forms of the persistent bacteria. You may recall I mentioned CDC protocols are 21 days. What we're asking for in this legislation is to allow doctors to treat above and beyond the CDC protocols allowing a treatment plan that exceeds that 28 day life cycle. I ask for your support on House Bill 4515 along with all the other Lyme patients, Lyme people throughout Illinois. Thank you."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Davidsmeyer."

C.D. Davidsmeyer (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I want to commend the Sponsor of this Bill on all of his hard work. He brought forward a Bill that wasn't good with everybody. He worked hard with all sides and made sure there was something that was workable for the actual patients who are going 10000146.docx 42 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 through this disease. And I hope that everyone will step up and support this override. Thank you."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Skillicorn."

Allen Skillicorn (R)

"I rise in support of this Veto and specifically the patients of Lyme disease need antibiotics longer than 21 days. The Governor got this one wrong. Let's push this over the top and override this Veto."

Arthur Turner (D)

Speaker Turner: "Chair recognizes Representative Swanson to close."

Daniel Swanson (R)

"I just ask for your support. Thank you."

Arthur Turner (D)

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 4515 pass notwithstanding the Governor's specific recommendations for change?' This Motion requires 71 votes. This is final action. All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this Motion there… there have been… there are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. And this Motion, having received the required Three-fifths Majority, the override prevails. And House Bill 4515 is declared passed notwithstanding the Governor's recommendations for change. House Bill 4743, Representative Ford."

La Shawn K. Ford (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move… I Motion to Override the Governor's Amendatory Veto on House Bill 4743."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Representative Ford, a couple words about the Bill."

La Shawn K. Ford (D)

"A couple of words about the Amendment. I don't know why the Governor chose to Amendatory Veto the Bill that I 10000146.docx 43 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 sponsored. So I move that we override the Governor's Amendatory Veto for House Bill 4743."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Breen."

Peter Breen (R)

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

Arthur Turner (D)

"The sponsor indicates that he will yield."

Peter Breen (R)

"Thank you. And, Representative, the Amendatory Veto language appears to actually help your Bill to pass constitutional muster. Because your Bill, I believe, only specified African Americans. And of course Latinos and Asian Americans and others should also receive the same protection since our Constitution requires a color blind treatment of folks. And so the AV language actually would… really looks like it would give you what you wanted. So why would you persist with the language that you've got instead of just filing to accept the AV?"

La Shawn K. Ford (D)

"Well working with constituents that's what we do when we come down. This is what was given to me as a Legislator to carry. And if we accept the Governor's Amendatory Veto I think it waters down the language and it takes us back to ground zero."

Peter Breen (R)

"Well, in part of the problem is, Representative, your Bill specifically gave extra rights to folks based on being African American but did not help folks of all races who are being discriminated against because of their race…"

La Shawn K. Ford (D)

"Did you say… did you say that it gave extra rights?"

Peter Breen (R)

"It does in terms of the specific criteria's provided."

La Shawn K. Ford (D)

"I think… I think it provides protections."

Peter Breen (R)

"Right, that don't apply to those folks who are Latinos or who are Asian Americans or others. Part of the problem is, as 10000146.docx 44 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 I understand the U.S. Constitution, we can't discriminate between people based on their race. And so if you were to make an Amendment that actually applied to folks of any race who are being… you know, having that criteria used against them in their equal payment then folks I think would be much more apt to support your Bill. The problem is I don't see how your Bill even passed Constitutional muster. I think the Governor's AV language actually fixes this… the issue that you can't… you know, we don't advantage folks of one race over another in our structural laws. That's the question. Okay, well and again… I think I've kind of made my statement. So that's… thank you, Mr. Speaker."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Wallace."

Litesa E. Wallace (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Arthur Turner (D)

"The Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

Litesa E. Wallace (D)

"Thank you, Representative Ford, for this piece of legislation. You discussed this legislation was brought to you by a constituency group or it was an effort of residents in your district?"

La Shawn K. Ford (D)

"That's correct."

Litesa E. Wallace (D)

"But that it will hopefully help the nearly 13 percent of the Illinois state population that is African American?"

La Shawn K. Ford (D)

"That's right."

Litesa E. Wallace (D)

"And we just heard this idea that this provided special or additional rights. Could you help me understand what those special or additional rights might be?"

La Shawn K. Ford (D)

"Yeah, that was confusing to me. I understand that it provides protections against pay discrimination." 10000146.docx 45 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Litesa E. Wallace (D)

"So, to the Bill. We have talked about equal pay in this chamber for I don't know, since the day I got here, I know that much. And it seems that we just can't get past the notion that every single person's labor is indeed valuable. And we would choose to ignore the evidence that states that based upon race or gender, individuals are specifically discriminated against. The notion of color blindness is the biggest fallacy of the 21st century and we need to stop believing that that is even the case. If it were the case we would not have to bring certain pieces of legislation to this Body or other bodies to address the discrimination that is evident. We talk about equal pay from a perspective of gender often and we hear the statistic all the time that white women make about 77 cents for every dollar a white man makes. The stat that we don't typically hear is that black men make 77 cents for every dollar that white men make. We also don't here that black women make about 66 cents for every dollar that a white man makes. And we certainly don't hear that my Latina sisters make about 54 cents for every dollar that a white man makes. So I understand the point of the specificity of this particular Bill not necessarily addressing other racial or ethnic minorities. But this Bill also does nothing to prohibit anyone else in this chamber from introducing a Bill that is specific to those particular racial or ethnic minority groups. And we have a bunch of great new Representatives who I think just might help in that particular effort. So to this particular Bill, if we are going to say that we're color blind then let's at least make actions that are reparative and restorative to individuals and communities 10000146.docx 46 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 that have been marginalized long enough. And to that end I encourage an 'aye' vote to override the Governor's Amendatory Veto on this particular Bill."

Arthur Turner (D)

Speaker Turner: "Seeing no further discussion, the Chair recognizes the Sponsor, Representative Ford, to close."

La Shawn K. Ford (D)

"Thank you very much and I hope we all vote 'aye'."

Arthur Turner (D)

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 4743 pass notwithstanding the Governor's specific recommendations for change?' This Motion requires 71 votes and is final action. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 75 voting in 'favor', 17 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', this Motion, having received the required Three-fifths Majority, the Motion to Override prevails. And House Bill 4743 is declared passed notwithstanding the Governor's recommendations for change. House Bill 3418, Representative Harper."

Sonya M. Harper (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to Override the Amendatory Veto of House Bill 3418. This Bill allows municipalities to create urban agriculture zones to support sustainable agriculture and urban farming. I encourage an 'aye' vote."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Seeing no discussion, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 3418 pass notwithstanding the Governor's specific recommendations for change?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 84 voting in 'favor', 20 voting 'opposed', and 0 voting 10000146.docx 47 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 'present', this Motion, having received the required Three- fifths Majority, the Motion to Override prevails. And House Bill 3418 is declared passed notwithstanding the Governor's recommendations for change. House Bill 4771, Representative Hammond."

Norine K. Hammond (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to override the Governor's Amendatory Veto of House Bill 4771. I think that most everyone in this chamber, and certainly in the Senate chamber, understands the work that's go into approving the Medicaid applications for long term care. And I would certainly appreciate your support on overriding the Amendatory Veto."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Seeing no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Senate… shall House Bill 4771 pass notwithstanding the Governor's specific recommendations for change?' This is final action. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye'; all opposed by voting 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On account of 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', this Motion, having received the required Three-fifths Majority, the Motion to Override prevails. And House Bill 4771 is declared passed notwithstanding the Governor's recommendations for change. House Bill 5104, Representative Ammons."

Carol Ammons (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 5104 is access to health care Bill for the Illinois Department of Correction inmates. We worked for months with the Department of Correction to pass this Bill and get it into the form that it 10000146.docx 48 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 is in and it garnered 106 votes. I ask for an override of the Governor's Amendatory Veto on this Bill."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Representative Breen is recognized."

Peter Breen (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Arthur Turner (D)

"Sponsor indicates that she will yield."

Carol Ammons (D)

"I will yield."

Peter Breen (R)

"Thank you. And, Representative, if you would just help us to understand why the Governor issued the… his Amendatory Veto on this. It seemed like he had some concerns about the fiscal impact but I'm not sure exactly. What was your thought on that?"

Carol Ammons (D)

"I appreciate the question, Mr. Breen, because that question is at the center of why this Bill should be overridden by this Body. The Inmate Benefit Fund that commissary money that is charged to inmates go into the fund to cover expenses for the inmates. And so the Department of Correction is charging a copay for something that actually should be within the budget of the Department of Corrections which we worked with them to get this to this point. And so the Governor's override… his Amendatory Veto to reduce the amount as opposed to eliminate this very difficult hurdle for people to get access to medical care really should be overridden for that point."

Peter Breen (R)

"Fair enough. So the Governor had wanted instead of eliminating the copay for medical and dental he wanted to really reduce it. And so again, the reasons for the original Bill still remain and there's…"

Carol Ammons (D)

"Yes, Sir." 10000146.docx 49 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Peter Breen (R)

"…no reason to really… instead of adjusting the amount you're just wiping it off."

Carol Ammons (D)

"Correct."

Peter Breen (R)

"Fair enough, thank you."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Representative Bryant is recognized."

Terri Bryant (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. This was a Bill that was negotiated with DOC and DOJ and it actually would help to reduce the backlog of inmates waiting to see doctors and dentists. This is not a bad Bill and I would encourage a 'yes' vote on the override."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Representative Ammons close."

Carol Ammons (D)

"Thank you. I appreciate the comments prior to this closing. I appreciate an 'aye' vote on the Amendatory Veto override."

Arthur Turner (D)

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 5104 pass notwithstanding the Governor's specific recommendations for change?' This is final action. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye'; all opposed by voting 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 109 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', this Motion, having received the required Three-fifths Majority, the Motion to Override prevails. And House Bill 5104 is declared passed notwithstanding the Governor's recommendations for change. On page 7 of the Calendar we have House Bill 5342, under Total Vetoes, Representative Martwick. Out of the record. On page 2 of the Calendar we have House Bills under Second Reading. House Bill 166, Representative Zalewski." 10000146.docx 50 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Michael J. Zalewski (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 166 reflects language that… actually want to adopt the amendment."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Excuse… excuse me, Representative. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

Hollman

"House Bill 166, a Bill for an Act concerning public employee benefits. This Bill was read a second time on a previous day. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Zalewski, has been approved for consideration."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Representative Zalewski on Floor Amendment #1."

Michael J. Zalewski (D)

"Floor Amendment #1 becomes the Bill in chief which reflects the language without the Governor's Amendatory Veto language. I ask for its adoption."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 in House Bill 166. All in favor say 'aye'; opposed 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

Hollman

"No further Amendments. No Motions are filed."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 166."

Hollman

"House Bill 166, a Bill for an Act concerning public employee benefits. Third Reading of this House Bill.

Arthur Turner (D)

"Representative Zalewski."

Michael J. Zalewski (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 166 is reflective of language we did for the Municipal Retirement Fund of Chicago. The Governor had a challenge with a medical piece of requiring… doing a medical check every year. We've removed that piece and put the technical language that he was okay with in a separate vehicle, this is that vehicle. I ask for an 'aye' vote." 10000146.docx 51 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Arthur Turner (D)

"The Chair recognizes Representative Breen."

Peter Breen (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Arthur Turner (D)

"Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

Peter Breen (R)

"And, Representative, just so that the Body is clear, this was House Bill 4811 with the Governor's Amendatory Veto language added? That's what your Bill is now?"

Michael J. Zalewski (D)

"Correct. I'm not taking the Governor's Amendatory change, we're going to deal with that later on, but the rest of the Bill he was okay with."

Peter Breen (R)

"So, you've left out entirely the part that he had a challenge with?"

Michael J. Zalewski (D)

"Correct."

Peter Breen (R)

"Okay, so we're putting that off to another day then?"

Michael J. Zalewski (D)

"Correct."

Peter Breen (R)

"Fair enough. Is there any opposition to the Bill?"

Michael J. Zalewski (D)

"Not that I am aware of."

Peter Breen (R)

"Okay, and as I understand it's technical changes to Tier 2 that are required for a variety of reasons."

Michael J. Zalewski (D)

"Correct."

Peter Breen (R)

"Okay, thank you."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Representative Zalewski close."

Michael J. Zalewski (D)

"I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

Arthur Turner (D)

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 166 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 108 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 166, having received the Constitutional 10000146.docx 52 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5093, Representative Andrade. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

Hollman

"House Bill 5093, a Bill for an Act concerning government. This Bill was read for a second time previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Andrade, has been approved for consideration."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Representative Andrade on Floor Amendment #1."

Jaime M. Andrade Jr. (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to accept House Floor Amendment #1. And House Bill 5093 is a trailer Bill. It clarifies and identifies that the Executive Branch, Judicial Branch, and the Office of the Inspector General is separate from this Bill. I respectfully request an 'aye' vote."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Thank you. Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 5093. All those in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

Hollman

"No further Amendments. No Motions are filed."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 5093. Please read the Bill."

Hollman

"House Bill 5093, a Bill for an Act concerning government. Third Reading of this House Bill.

Arthur Turner (D)

"Representative Andrade."

Jaime M. Andrade Jr. (D)

"As previously stated, this is a trailer Bill to House Bill 5611 and it just clarifies the separations of power. I respectfully request an 'aye' vote."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Seeing no discussion, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 5093 pass?’ All those in favor vote ‘aye’; all opposed vote ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. 10000146.docx 53 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 Clerk, please take the record. On account of 110 voting ‘yes’, 0 voting ‘no’, and 0 voting ‘present’, House Bill 5093, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5769, Representative Conroy. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

Hollman

"House Bill 5769, a Bill for an Act concerning regulation. This Bill was read for a second time on a previous day. Floor Amendments 2 and 3 have been approved previously. No Floor Amendments. No Motions are filed."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read House Bill 5769 for a third time."

Hollman

"House Bill 5769, a Bill for an Act concerning regulation. Third Reading of this House Bill."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Representative Conroy is recognized."

Deb Conroy (D)

"Thank you, Speaker. This is a… this Bill develops a mandatory use of a uniform electronic prior authorization form for insurers and Medicaid managed care companies. This will allow for a barrier to care to be removed. This is a completely agreed upon Bill and this is something that many people have worked on for many years. And I ask for your 'aye' vote."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Breen."

Peter Breen (R)

"And I wondered with the status of the Bill I see multiple Amendments. Were those adopted previously or are they…"

Arthur Turner (D)

"Mr. Clerk."

Hollman

"Floor Amendments 2 and 3 we're approved and adopted previously."

Peter Breen (R)

"Thank you. And then will the Sponsor yield?"

Arthur Turner (D)

"The Sponsor indicates that she will yield." 10000146.docx 54 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Peter Breen (R)

"And, Representative, just so that we're clear, the current version of the Bill with Floor Amendments 2 and 3 adopted, have obviated all opposition. Is that correct?"

Deb Conroy (D)

"Yes, and actually 3 was just to add pharmacists to the Bill, 2 was a gut and replace."

Peter Breen (R)

"Fine. That's what we needed. Okay, thank you so much."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Representative Conroy to close."

Deb Conroy (D)

"I ask for your 'aye' vote."

Arthur Turner (D)

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 5769 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 5769, having received Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 7 of the Calendar under Total Vetoes we have House Bill 5175, offered by Representative Hoffman. Representative Hoffman"

Jay Hoffman (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 5175 is a local control initiative. It indicates that a local school board, if it denies or revokes a charter for a charter school, that it no longer could appeal it to the State Charter School Commission. I ask for a favorable Roll Call."

Arthur Turner (D)

"The Chair recognizes Representative Breen."

Peter Breen (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Motion. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is nothing more than a transparent attack on the charter schools of this state. It would essentially take away the powers of the Charter School Commission, which are to provide a check on a local school board that may need 10000146.docx 55 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 charters. But that local school board is against the concept… in whatever… whatever way doesn't want to see a charter school there, but the children of that district need a charter school. The Charter School Commission is there as the backstop, that we created, in order to ensure the quality education for every child in this state. So we would respectfully request that you vote 'no' on this override. And this is a transparent attempt to shutdown the good work of the charter schools of this state."

Arthur Turner (D)

"The Chair recognizes Representative Skillicorn."

Allen Skillicorn (R)

"Thank you. To the Bill. Historically, the Charter School Commission has not overridden local school boards. Historically, only a handful of these overrides have taken place. Historically most of them that have gotten to the Commission have been denied. I like checks and balances and I will be voting 'no' on this Bill."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Representative Hoffman to close."

Jay Hoffman (D)

"Yes, to the previous speakers let me just say this, you can't have it both ways. You can't one day say that you are for local school… local control of schools and the school board should have the autonomy to not be overseen from the state, and then vote against this Bill. You want it both ways. I would say to the previous speaker that one override is too many. I believe in local control, that's why I believe in this Bill. And I ask for favorable Roll Call." Speaker Turner: "The question is, 'Shall House Bill 5175 pass the Veto of the Governor notwithstanding?' This Motion requires 71 votes and this is final action. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye'; all opposed by voting 'nay'. The 10000146.docx 56 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 71 voting in 'favor', 34 voting 'no', and 2 voting 'present', the Motion, having received the required Three-fifths Majority, the Motion to Override prevails. And House Bill 5175 is declared passed notwithstanding the Governor's Veto. House Bill 5342, Representative Martwick. You may proceed, Sir."

Robert Martwick (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to override the Governor's Veto… Total Veto on House Bill 5342. 5342 allows a member of the Firemen's Annuity and Benefit Fund of Chicago to continue to participate in that fund instead of rolling in the Municipal Employees Annuity and Benefit Fund of Chicago's Elected City Officers Plan when that member becomes an elected official. So, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentleman of the House, there was… some prognostication on this Bill recently that mischaracterized it. What this Bill does is removes a barrier of service… a barrier to service an elected official for firefighters by allowing them to continue to accumulate pension funds where they have put a majority of their… spent a majority of their time working. This Bill passed with 71 votes, it's a good Bill. I ask for an 'aye' vote and happy to answer any questions."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Breen."

Peter Breen (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Motion. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is, as the Representative said, this is a repeat at which we had a vigorous debate on previously. The issue is that when you get elected to the City Council of the City of Chicago, that is a slightly less generous pension 10000146.docx 57 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 plan. The pension plans for firemen who… and firewomen, I guess firefighters, who put their lives on the line everyday is more generous because they are actually involved in the public safety. There is no argument that being a Chicago Alderman actually puts you in the line of danger in the same way that being a Chicago firefighter does. So there is no reason to allow this. I respectfully urge a 'no' vote."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Representative Ives is recognized."

Jeanne M Ives (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. Chicago firefighters, you should all stand opposed to this Bill. You have a man who was a firefighter, now an Alderman, now he's going to try to sneak into your pension system that is 20 percent funded. And the next downturn in the market you're hurting. Not to mention, it is the Chicago Firefighter Pension Fund that actually asked for an intercept of state funds because they hadn't been getting their full allotment. So now you've got an Alderman voting on a budget that basically didn't even fully fund your pensions. And so now you are asking the state to come in and intercept revenues, so you can put it into your pension fund 'cause that same Alderman didn't do his job as an Alderman and protect your pension fund. I mean, is anything more ridiculous? And you want to reward this? It's outrageous. The guy can either decide he wants to be a firefighter or he wants to be an Alderman. And when you make that choice you decide which pension fund you're going into. Now this is… the other thing that's really important for people to understand here. This is another one of those one off Bills, where you come to the state for one individual. We have 12.8 million people in this state, oh and it's declining 10000146.docx 58 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 by the way we are, you know, losing population every day. But here we're doing one Bill for one person and it's not the first time. We've… we do one off Bills on pensions every single year. Why? 'cause the state controls every bit of the pension system. This has got to stop. The most flexible system is a 401(k) style system. It's then you own it, then you have it, then you can move in and out of any job you want to in the future. This is the perfect example why we need to modernize our pension system, which the Federal Government did decades ago. I can't be more adamant about urging a 'no' vote and sending the message to people like the Alderman that, first of all, you screwed up funding pensions to begin with at the local level. And we're not going to let you come in and pretend that you're a firefighter now just to get an enhanced benefit. It's just nonsense. Stop stealing from the firefighters you pretend to protect."

Arthur Turner (D)

"The Chair recognizes Representative Skillicorn."

Allen Skillicorn (R)

"Thank you, Sir. To the Bill. This is a great Bill for one person at the expense of rank and fire… file firefighters. This benefits one person, yet it will deplete the pension fund for others. I stand with rank and file. This is not a great idea for them, this actually hurts them. If we want to change the way Chicago does their own pensions for their Alderman. Let's let Chicago change the way they do their pension fund. They… that's fine, they can control that. But there's no reason for us to step in and deplete the pension fund of rank and file firefighters for this one person. Thank you. I urge a 'no' vote."

Arthur Turner (D)

"The Chair recognizes Representative Willis." 10000146.docx 59 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Kathleen Willis (D)

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Arthur Turner (D)

"The Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

Kathleen Willis (D)

"Does the rank and file support this? Therefore does local too support this Bill?"

Robert Martwick (D)

"Yes, Representative Willis, the rank and file does. And I had an opportunity to listen to my colleagues from the Illinois Policy Institute, over there, talk about ridiculousness. Well there is nothing more ridiculous, in my mind, than telling someone who served 18 years as a firefighter that they are, somehow, some sort of fake or poser and that, somehow or another, they're not entitled to serve their city as an elected official. That's ridiculous. This Bill does not sweeten pensions. In fact, for every firefighter who serves, if they transfer their time back over, all the money has to follow the transfer. And if there is a difference, if there is a shortage in the firefighters account, it must be paid for out of their own pockets. So the idea that we're… you're standing with the rank and file is ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous. So don't speak when you don't know what you're talking about."

Kathleen Willis (D)

"Thank you very much. Also may I ask, the City of Chicago, they are neutral on this? Therefore basically they support it?"

Robert Martwick (D)

"Absolutely."

Kathleen Willis (D)

"Thank you very much. I urge the rest of this Body to vote 'aye' on this Bill."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative McAuliffe."

Michael P. McAuliffe (R)

"Thank you. This constituent lives in my district. He cannot go back to being a fireman, he's in a wheelchair. A 10000146.docx 60 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 couple of years ago he was in a different position and didn't support me. I support him and so do the fire people. Let's pass this Bill, he can't be a fireman again. And this also gives an opportunity for anyone that's a Chicago firefighter, if they want to choose to run for Alderman that they can do that. If they're on the job 12 or 15 years they wouldn’t have the opportunity because they wouldn’t be able to get a pension. So, it's not a crazy Bill, it's a good Bill. Vote 'yes'."

Arthur Turner (D)

Speaker Turner: "Seeing no further discussion, the Chair recognizes the Sponsor, Representative Martwick, to close."

Robert Martwick (D)

"Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen. If you care about protecting the taxpayer then the last thing you want to do is take someone who has served 18 years as a firefighter, 8 years as an Alderman and tell them that they only get a refund of their contributions. Without any Social Security they would probably burn through that refund in a few short years and then be left to come back to the state for public assistance. Hardly a good idea. Yet, when they've already contributed and served their city, and they are entitled, they've accumulated the years necessary to receive a pension. The least we can do, is create reciprocity so that they can live secure in their own retirement without coming back to… for public assistance. This is the right thing to do for this individual, for every firefighter who should seek public office. And it's the right thing to do for the taxpayer. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

Arthur Turner (D)

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 5342 pass the Veto of the Governor notwithstanding?' The Motion requires 71 10000146.docx 61 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 votes. This is final action. All in favor signify by voting 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On account of 80 voting in 'favor', 27 voting 'opposed', and 0 voting 'present', this Motion, having received the required Three- fifths Majority, the Motion to Override prevails. And House Bill 5342 is declared passed notwithstanding the Governor's Veto. On page 3 of the Calendar under House Bill on Third Reading we have House Bill 5698, Representative Welch. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

Hollman

"House Bill 5698, a Bill for an Act concerning local government. Third Reading of this House Bill."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Representative Welch."

Emanuel Chris Welch (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 5698 is a simple Bill that creates fairness in local elections. What it does is it provides that any imposition of term limits on local elected officials, including in those Home Rule municipalities, they will be affected prospectively not retrospectively. It would apply to those in the future. I would ask for an 'aye' vote on this Bill that has strong bipartisan support."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Breen."

Peter Breen (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Arthur Turner (D)

"Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

Peter Breen (R)

"And Representative, I think… was there some effort recently, as I understand it, to limit the Mayor of Chicago to two terms and that was going to be a retrospective initiative, as I understand it? So this would prohibit that sort of a thing?" 10000146.docx 62 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Emanuel Chris Welch (D)

"If this were to pass be… to pass that example would be appropriate, yes."

Peter Breen (R)

"Okay. To the Bill. Ladies and Gentleman, term limits is a good thing. Right now it's… you know they could do that at the local level. We wish that folks could do this by initiative at this state level, but we've not the allowed the people of this state this power. What this does is removes the ability of people… of the people of a village or a municipality to limit the terms of folks they've got serving. You could have somebody who'd served 20 years and then, you know the people of the village may have said, hey, you know it's time for these guys to, you know, move aside and let someone else take over. And they say, well it’s a three term limit or a two term limit and it's effective immediately. There's no reason why you shouldn't let folks in a village, on their own, do this. So, I don't see the reason for this Bill or why we would need to… to limit the power of folks in this way. This also… this limits term limits. So, why would we do that when everybody wants term limits? So, just respectively urge a 'no' vote."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Wehrli."

Grant Wehrli (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I stand in strong support of this Bill. It is unfair to elected officials to change the rules for time that they have previously served. When I was on the Naperville City Council we passed term limits at the municipal level and we did them in a prospective manner. We thought that best followed the constitution by not punishing someone ex post facto for time already served. Term limits are a good thing. They need to be implemented properly. 10000146.docx 63 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 This piece of legislation does this and I strongly urge an 'aye' vote."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Batinick."

Mark Batinick (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Arthur Turner (D)

"Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

Mark Batinick (R)

"Representative, I believe I heard a story where somebody tried to weaponize this to prevent a specific individual from running for mayor. Where a group of board members said we're going to pass an ordinance that said if you've been a… if you’ve been a just a trustee for a couple of terms than you are unable to run for mayor of a village. Is… that is that correct?"

Emanuel Chris Welch (D)

"That's correct. And I have personally known of at least two situations where that has occurred. And this Bill doesn't prohibit local governments from imposing term limits. What we're saying for fairness going forward, from the date that the referendum passes or the ordinance passes, it would apply in the future not in the past."

Mark Batinick (R)

"Now I will say, I'm reading my analysis here, it says, established by referendum ordinance or other means. I wish you would’ve left referendum out there. If the people of the village overall speak, I think that should’ve been fine. I do intend to support your Bill though. Because I believe what's happened in the past folks is, is you’ve had trustees who've tried to pass term limits not because they're for term limits but because their trying to find a way to limit one or two specific individuals from running for mayor of a town. So it's… it is weaponizing something that’s sold off as reform 10000146.docx 64 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 and that is wrong. So I do intend on supporting your Bill. Thank you."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Brady."

Dan Brady (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Arthur Turner (D)

"Sponsor will yield."

Dan Brady (R)

"Representative, explain to me one more time why we need this Bill?"

Emanuel Chris Welch (D)

"Well, I think we need it, number one for fairness. I think we need it for transparency, and I think all of us would agree we favor transparency over trickery. In many instances lately in local politics, you have people using the current process to eliminate people purely for political reasons. And what this Bill will do is it levels the playing field and says if you really, truly believe in term limits, then it will apply to everyone equally and fairly in the future. If that's what you want to do, pass something and it applies to everyone equally in the future. You're not going to attack one person retrospectively.

Dan Brady (R)

"And does the legislation still leave the decision in the hands of the voters?"

Emanuel Chris Welch (D)

"It does."

Dan Brady (R)

"Thank you."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Riley."

Al Riley (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Arthur Turner (D)

"Sponsor indicates they will yield."

Al Riley (D)

"I just want to know the genesis of this Bill. I saw that the Northwest Municipal Conference, which I guess was the only COG that registered opposition, was in opposition of the Bill. What was the… genesis?" 10000146.docx 65 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Emanuel Chris Welch (D)

"Well…"

Al Riley (D)

"Because I noticed also on the analysis, and that just might be purely by chance, but a lot of the communities that were listed as having term limits, and I know it's not exhausted…"

Arthur Turner (D)

Speaker Turner: "Excuse me, Representative. Excuse me Representative. I'm sorry to cut you off. Mr. Clerk, can you please take this Bill out of the record? Members, we're going to stand at recess to the call of the Chair and all Members are asked to evacuate the third and fourth floor of the building immediately, right now."

Hollman

"Attention Members of the House of Representatives. Attention Members of the House of Representatives. The House will reconvene in five minutes. The House will reconvene in five minutes. All Members should report to the House floor at this time. Thank you."

Arthur Turner (D)

"The House will come back to order. Members, we will go to page 3 of the Calendar under House Bills on Third Reading. We have House Bill 5698, offered by Representative Welch. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

Hollman

"House Bill 5698, a Bill for an Act concerning local government. This Bill… Third Reading of this House Bill."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Representative Welch."

Emanuel Chris Welch (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We'll try this again. I ask for approval of House Bill 5698."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative McDermed."

Margo McDermed (R)

"Okay. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Arthur Turner (D)

"Sponsor indicates that he will yield." 10000146.docx 66 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Margo McDermed (R)

"Representative, to what levels of elected officials does this apply?"

Emanuel Chris Welch (D)

"This is regarding municipal officials. It's specifically referenced in the Bill, Section 5, the Illinois Municipal Code is being amended."

Margo McDermed (R)

"Okay, I just wanted to make sure that I was reading that correctly. So it doesn't apply to county?"

Emanuel Chris Welch (D)

"It does not."

Margo McDermed (R)

"And it doesn’t apply to state people like us?"

Emanuel Chris Welch (D)

"It does not."

Margo McDermed (R)

"So, no constraints on us?"

Emanuel Chris Welch (D)

"No."

Margo McDermed (R)

"Okay."

Emanuel Chris Welch (D)

"That’s a different… That's a different Bill."

Margo McDermed (R)

"A different… you're going to bring another Bill?"

Emanuel Chris Welch (D)

"We can talk about it."

Margo McDermed (R)

"Let's."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Wehrli."

Grant Wehrli (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just had an inquiry of the Chair if our previous debate stood? And if it does I'll just stand on my previous entry into the record."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Thank you, Representative. Representative Welch to close."

Emanuel Chris Welch (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For fairness and transparency I would ask that we approve House Bill 5698."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Question is, 'Shall House Bill 5698 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record on a 10000146.docx 67 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 count of 99 voting in 'favor', 7 voting 'opposed', and 1 voting 'present', House Bill 5698, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 5 of the Calendar, under the Order of Concurrence. We have House Bill 5542, offered by Representative Batinick."

Mark Batinick (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We passed 5542 almost unanimously. It went over to the Senate and passed unanimously. They did… they did add a small Amendment to it. And basically what the Amendment did, is it excluded non for profits from the General Mortgage Code. So non for profits like Habitat for Humanity don't have to deal with the onerous regulations for the work that they do. I strongly urge an 'aye' vote."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Seeing no further debate, the question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 5542?' All in favor vote 'yes'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 108 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'opposed', and 0 voting 'present', the House concurs in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 5542. On page 10 of the Calendar, under the Order of Resolutions, we have House Joint Resolution 116, offered by Representative Lilly."

Camille Y. Lilly (D)

"Ladies and Gentleman of the General Assembly, I rise to ask for support of HRJ(sic-HJR)116 which is Kiddieland; something that's dear to many of our hearts across the state. It's a time where we remember family fun in the community and we are looking to name our road in our community after Kiddieland. I ask for your 'aye' vote." 10000146.docx 68 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Arthur Turner (D)

"Lady moves for the adoption of House Joint Resolution 116. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 108 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Joint Resolution 116, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Joint Resolution 118, Representative Spain."

Ryan Spain (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Bear with me for one second. House Joint Resolution 118 is a long overdue road dedication in my district on Route 116 from Roanoke to Metamora in honor of a Specialist Phillip Pannier, who was lost and killed in action in the service of Operation Iraqi Freedom. I ask for the adoption of the Resolution."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of House Joint Resolution 118. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Joint Resolution 118, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby… is adopted. House Joint Resolution 122, Representative Swanson. Out of the record. House Resolution 1050. Excuse me. Out of the record. House… Senate Joint Resolution #8, Representative Bennett."

Thomas M. Bennett (R)

"Sorry, Mr. Speaker. Senate Joint Resolution 8 has to do with a firefighter, a schoolman, basically who was killed on the way to the fire. And so we were asking for this Resolution on his behalf." 10000146.docx 69 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Arthur Turner (D)

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Senate Joint Resolution #8. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 110 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', Senate Joint Resolution 8, having received the Constitutional Majority, is adopted. Senate Joint Resolution #9, Representative Bennett."

Thomas M. Bennett (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Sorry. Senate Joint Resolution… SJR9 talks about Specialist Phillip Pannier who was born December 1987. And basically, we want to name a highway after him for his military career and his number of things he did to provide in the community. And I ask for an 'aye' vote please."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Senate Joint Resolution #9. All in favor for 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 110 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', Senate Joint Resolution 9, having received the Constitutional Majority, is adopted. Senate Joint Resolution 47. Representative Hammond."

Norine K. Hammond (R)

"Thank you… thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Joint Resolution 47, I'm honored to offer this with my colleague Representative Dan Swanson in memory of Reverend Jon Sibley. It would designate the East Main Underpass of the Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railroad tracks in Galesburg as the Reverend Jon A. Sibley Underpass. Reverend Sibley was an incredible part of the Galesburg community and certainly Knox County and 10000146.docx 70 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 served on a number of boards and also served as the chair of the Carl Sandburg Board, and the NAACP, as well as a member of the Galesburg Police and Fire Commission. And I'd be honored to have your support."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Lady moves for the adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 47. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 109 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', Senate Joint Resolution 47, having received the Constitutional Majority, is adopted. SJR 50, Representative Olsen."

David S. Olsen (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It's pretty loud there. This is an important Resolution. It declares domestic violence a public health priority for the State of Illinois. It urges the state to make available all necessary resources to combat the epidemic. This Resolution, I think, is a critical one because this is an important issue that affects communities from my own home town of Downers Grove, to Chicago, to down state communities. And I urge the Members to vote 'aye' and stand with the survivors and those who are seeking to make domestic violence no longer a reality in our state. Thank you."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 50. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 110 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', Senate Joint Resolution 50, 10000146.docx 71 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 having received the Constitutional Majority, is adopted. SJR 54, Representative Costello."

Jerry Costello II (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Joint Resolution 54 creates the Southwest Illinois Connector Task Force which studies the cost, feasibility, and environmental impact of a potential four lane divided highway that would run through Jackson, Monroe, Perry, and Randolph County. I know of no opposition. I ask for your 'aye' vote."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of SJR54. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of… 107 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', SJR54, having received the Constitutional Majority, is adopted. Senate Joint Resolution 56, Representative Brady."

Dan Brady (R)

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Joint Resolution 56 is in honor in memory of Sergeant Maddox Memorial Highway through my Legislative District in his honor of being killed in the line of service. And I ask for your 'yes' vote…"

Arthur Turner (D)

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 56. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 106 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', Senate Joint Resolution 56, having received the Constitutional Majority, is adopted. Senate Joint Resolution 58, Representative Davidsmeyer." 10000146.docx 72 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

C.D. Davidsmeyer (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Resolution would like to name 54 going through Pike County, the Lincoln Secretary's Trail. A couple of Lincoln's personal secretaries are actually from Pike County and I'd like to move for its passage.

Arthur Turner (D)

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 58. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 110 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', Senate Joint Resolution 58, having received the Constitutional Majority, is adopted. Senate Joint Resolution 62, Representative Evans. Representative Evans, is there an Amendment on this Resolution that you'd like to adopt?"

Marcus C. Evans Jr. (D)

"Yeah, it is still in Rules, Amendment 2?"

Arthur Turner (D)

"I think Floor Amendment #2 is ready to be adopted, if you'd like to move forward with it."

Marcus C. Evans Jr. (D)

"Yes, let's move forward. Yes, Sir. I'd like to adopt."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2 to Senate Joint Resolution 62. All in favor say 'aye', all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

Hollman

"No further Amendments."

Marcus C. Evans Jr. (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and the great Members of this Assembly. Senate Joint Resolution 62 creates a task force on long term sustainable infrastructure funding to study, analyze, and present its recommendation for the most viable and efficient infrastructure funding plan to be utilized by 10000146.docx 73 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 the State of Illinois. I think it's clear that we have not prioritized transportation in the State of Illinois and the time is now. Hopefully with this, with our new sight of seeing, that we need to prioritize transportation. And with this task force and all of the energy with the new administration it could be made clear that transportation funding must, and has to be a priority moving forward in 2019. This task force will be one part of that, I ask for your support."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 62. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 105 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', Senate Joint Resolution 62, having received the Constitutional Majority, is adopted. Senate Joint Resolution 63, Representative Winger."

Christine Winger (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move for the adoption of SJR63. It designates Illinois Route 59, as it travels between Lake Street and Patriot Drive, as Mahavir Swami Road."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Lady moves for the adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 63. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count 110 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present'. Senate Joint Resolution 63, having received the Constitutional Majority, is adopted. Senate Joint Resolution 65, Representative Bill Mitchell. 10000146.docx 74 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 Representative Mitchell, would you like to move forward with Senate Joint Resolution 65?" Mitchell, B.: "No. No."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Mr. Clerk, please take this out of the record. Members, we have an announcement. If you wish to override a veto on your Bill… on your House Bill, today may be the last day to do it. So if you haven't made your Motion already, you should make your Motion. Thank you. On page 8 of the Calendar, under Amendatory Vetoes, we have House Bill 4514, Representative Olsen."

David S. Olsen (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill is a common sense Bill that… that merely protects the titles of school counselors and ensures that they have title protection, similar to other professions. This Bill passed unanimously and I think there should be no controversy about it. And I ask for your support to override the Governor's Veto."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Seeing no debate, the question is… excuse me. Representative Chapa LaVia."

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"Thank you, Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Arthur Turner (D)

"Sponsor indicates they will yield."

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"Representative, why did the Governor veto it? Did he say?"

David S. Olsen (R)

"The Governor suggested that the Department of Employment Security conduct a study and issue a report to study the labor market, et cetera, et cetera. We believe this is unnecessary. I've worked with the school counselors and… they so strongly support this. That's where this Bill came from. They worked with Representative Pritchard, who is the original Sponsor of this Bill." 10000146.docx 75 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"Okay."

David S. Olsen (R)

"So, I think it makes sense that we take this action right now."

Linda Chapa LaVia (D)

"I do too. I hope we can all support to override the veto. Thank you."

David S. Olsen (R)

"Thank you, Representative."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Representative Olsen to close.

David S. Olsen (R)

"I ask for your support. Thank you."

Arthur Turner (D)

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 4514 pass notwithstanding the Governors specific recommendations for change?' This Motion requires 71 votes. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 107 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'opposed', and 0 voting 'present', the Motion having received the required Three-fifths Majority, the Motion to Override prevails. And House Bill 4514 is declared passed, notwithstanding the Governors recommendations to change… for change. On page 6 of the Calendar we have House Bill 4882. Representative Mayfield. Out of the record. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

Hollman

"Agreed Resolutions. House Resolution 1284, offered by Representative Unes. House Resolution 1286, offered by Representative Gabel. House Resolution 1287, offered by Representative Daniel Burke. And House Resolution 1288, offered by Representative Cavaletto."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Leader Currie moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. And 10000146.docx 76 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 the Resolutions are adopted. Mr. Clerk, Adjournment Resolution."

Hollman

Clerk Hollman: "House Joint Resolution #143, offered Representative Currie. Be it RESOLVED BY THE HOUSE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE ONE HUNDRETH GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, THE SENATE CONCURRING HEREIN, that when the two Houses adjourn on Thursday, November 15, 2018, the House of Representatives stands adjourned until Tuesday, November 27 2018, or to the call of the Speaker; and the Senate stands adjourned until Tuesday, November 27, 2018, or to the call of the President."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Leader Currie moves for the adoption of the Adjournment Resolution. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. Members, on page 6 of the Calendar, House Bill 4882, Representative Mayfield."

Rita Mayfield (D)

"Thank you so much. We debated this Bill quite extensively here in the chamber. It did pass with bipartisan support. I'm hoping that we can go ahead and override the Governor's Veto on this. This Bill just provides a means for students to obtain an educators license at no cost to them or their families. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Breen."

Peter Breen (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Arthur Turner (D)

"Sponsor indicates that she will yield."

Peter Breen (R)

"And Representative, I just wanted to refresh the recollection of the Body about your Bill, which I believe passed 63 to 47. What… the Governor issued his veto that the Grow Your Own Teacher Program should not be expanded." 10000146.docx 77 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Rita Mayfield (D)

"Well, no, what he stated was that there were other Bills out there to address teacher shortages and that he didn't feel that we needed another one. I disagree with that. We definitely need every Bill possible to… address the teacher shortages. The number is getting larger not smaller. This is just another Bill that will do that, and it will do at no additional cost to the state or to parents or students."

Peter Breen (R)

"And do you dispute The Chicago Tribune report from 2015 that Illinois had spent over $20 million on the program, but had not produced any more than 102 graduates and only 80 teachers in Illinois, so?"

Rita Mayfield (D)

"Right, and there were… there's… there some things that were going on with the… with the particular program. The program has been restructured. There's a lot of things that are going on with them and IBHE to turn over… I believe there's a Senate Bill that will allow them to administer their own funding. A lot of the issues had happened because they were not in charge of the grantees, the awardees of the money, so they had… they had an issue with oversite of the peoples by putting the funds, which this Bill does not do. This Bill just allows him to extend the program to high school students. What you're talking about is the Senate Bill that should be coming over, hopefully, the second week of veto, which deals with the administrative portion of it. This Bill just basically allows him to extend the program to high school students, juniors and seniors, so that we can start recruiting early for students to become educators at no cost to them or their parents. So I don't want to confuse the two Bills. There 10000146.docx 78 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 are two Bills out there. And this Bill just extends it to students."

Peter Breen (R)

"To the Motion. Ladies and Gentleman, we did not pass this Bill by very much. It was… we're talking about a program that has been just a huge waste of money over these past 12 years and there's nothing about this Bill that would make the program any less of a huge waste of money. As the Governor noted in his veto message, we've been embarking on an evidence based set of ideas on how to improve education at every level in the State of Illinois and this Bill does not… does not comport with that. This program does not comport with that."

Rita Mayfield (D)

"I disagree."

Peter Breen (R)

"And so for that reason, respectfully, ask for a 'no' vote."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Ives."

Jeanne M Ives (R)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. We actually, in the last budget, there was passed quite a few initiatives to address… funding at the higher education level. We've, as noted, we have had a number of other programs where we have giving teachers the ability where they don't have to pay fees for registration anymore where we are actually looking at giving them additional leeway in terms of instruction. And so we already have been very proactive in terms of growing our own teachers, it's just that this particular program has proven already to be ineffective. We don't… we don't need any more proof about how this program has not worked, and it has not worked. And in the meantime we have started initiatives to actually allow for people to get education in the State of Illinois at the higher education level much cheaper. So I… I 10000146.docx 79 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 really urge the Body to be cognizant of the fact that this particular program has been tried and failed. So let's go on with other initiatives that we have already passed as a Body instead. Thank you."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Representative Mayfield to close."

Rita Mayfield (D)

"For the record, I just want to clarify that this program is already in existence. There's no… it's already funded, so we're not asking for any additional funds. What this Bill will allow, essentially, is for junior and high school students to attend dual credit courses within their high schools throughout the state absolutely free. And then there's a partnership with Northeastern Illinois University where they will then go on to complete their educators licensure courses. Provided that they complete everything, they will graduate with a bachelor's degree absolutely free. This is already funded. The money is already there. We're not asking for anything additional. What we are trying to do is simply grow teachers in the State of Illinois, and for those of you that live in the southern part of the state, you know that finding a teacher is extremely difficult. We don't have white teachers, we don't have brown teachers, we don't have black teachers. We have… our number of teachers are decreasing drastically across the state. And when I hear this, when you go to your administrators and you're having to go out of state, out of the country, just to attract teachers when you can grow your own teachers right there in your own farm communities, when you can grow teachers on the south side of Chicago, when you can grow teachers in my district. We are in desperate need of Hispanic and bilingual teachers. We can 10000146.docx 80 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 grow them ourselves and it's already paid for. I strongly ask for an 'aye' vote. This is needed."

Arthur Turner (D)

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 4882 pass the Veto of the Governor notwithstanding?' The Motion requires 71 votes. All those in favor signifying by voting 'aye'; opposed by voting 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members, please record yourself. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 61 voting 'yes', 45 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', the Motion to Override fails. On page 8 of the Calendar, under Amendatory Vetoes, we have House Bill 5195, Representative Greenwood."

LaToya Greenwood (D)

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to make a Motion to override the Governor's Veto on House Bill 5195. And I'm asking for a 'yes' vote. The Bill is an opportunity to help ensure our children's safety on their way to and from school. This measure will allow school districts outside the City of Chicago to provide a safe passage by providing free transportation to students who live within a mile and a half of their learning institution in high crime areas or areas with a pattern of criminal activity. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Thank you, Representative. Leader Durkin is recognized."

Jim Durkin (R)

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

Arthur Turner (D)

"Sponsor indicates that she will yield."

Jim Durkin (R)

"Representative, could you explain exactly what the Governor's Amendatory Veto action?"

LaToya Greenwood (D)

"I believe he was asking that Chicago public schools be included in the legislation." 10000146.docx 81 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018

Jim Durkin (R)

"Were they originally not included?"

LaToya Greenwood (D)

"Correct."

Jim Durkin (R)

"Why would that be?"

LaToya Greenwood (D)

"Because… it was my impression that Chicago public schools have a similar program, The Safe Passage Program. And so this was modeled after that program, but it did not include Chicago public."

Jim Durkin (R)

"Well, I think it's should be comprehensive that the City of Chicago, which which we all know, has a significant crime problem in certain areas where these children… and I'm not sure if I can trust the Chicago public schools. Chicago students should be ones who should be the most protected and be availed to this legislation. I think it's wrong not to include Chicago. I'm absolutely dumbfounded why it wasn't included. If anybody needs this type of program, it is kids in the City of Chicago. So I'm going to encourage my Members to not support the Amendatory Veto. Go back to the drawing board, put Chicago back in, and we can do the right thing."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Leader Flowers."

Mary E. Flowers (D)

"To the Bill. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentleman of the House, I want to commend Representative Greenwood for her legislation. Because for years I have tried to put back into this system transportation reimbursement for all the state. But you know what? Some of my colleagues, even a few, the one that just finished speaking voted 'no'. And so I want to commend the Lady for taking care of her district. Your constituents sent you down here to take care of your district, and the City of Chicago, we have broad shoulders. And I'll be more than happy to reintroduce the Bill again. Transportation 10000146.docx 82 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 Reimbursement. It was started in 1985. It was working just fine, but then someone came up with Safe Passage, which is not safe, it's not safe at all. Quite frankly, the language is still on the books. The language is still on the books for transportation reimbursement for the City of Chicago. So quite frankly, I don't need Representative Greenwood's Bill. I just need the appropriation. So I hope my colleagues on the other side of the aisle would join me in the appropriation of making sure that the kids in the City of Chicago is going to be protected and be able to take transportation reimbursement. And their parents will be able to go to the principal's office and pick up those applications for reimbursement once again and they will get a little check in the mail. So to the Lady on House Bill 5195, I rise in support of your legislation and I truly support you for standing up for what your constituents want you to do. Thank you very much and I urge an 'aye' vote."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Mayfield."

Rita Mayfield (D)

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

Arthur Turner (D)

"Sponsor indicates that she will yield."

Rita Mayfield (D)

"Okay. Ms. Greenwood, it was already discussed that Chicago currently has their own program, correct?"

LaToya Greenwood (D)

"That's my understanding. Yes."

Rita Mayfield (D)

"Okay. And there was legislation that Chicago enacted that excluded everyone except for Chicago, correct?"

LaToya Greenwood (D)

"Yes."

Rita Mayfield (D)

"So what your Bill is basically doing is saying, okay, since Chicago already has their own legislation to provide 10000146.docx 83 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 transportation for safe routes, you would just like to supply to all of the rest of the state? Is that correct?"

LaToya Greenwood (D)

"Correct."

Rita Mayfield (D)

"Thank you so much. I recommend an 'aye' vote."

Arthur Turner (D)

"Representative Greenwood to close."

LaToya Greenwood (D)

"I ask for an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

Arthur Turner (D)

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 5195 pass notwithstanding the Governor's specific recommendations for change?' This Motion requires 71 votes. All in favor signify by voting 'aye'; all opposed by voting 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 82 voting in 'favor', 23 voting 'opposed', 0 voting 'present', this Motion, having received the required Three- fifths Majority, the Motion to Override prevails. And House Bill 5195 is declared passed notwithstanding the Governor's recommendations for change. Mr. Clerk, committee announcements."

Hollman

"The Public Utilities Committee will be meeting immediately after Session in Room 118. Public Utilities in Room 118."

Arthur Turner (D)

"And now, allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk, Leader Currie moves that the House stand adjourned until Thursday, November 15, 10 a.m. Thursday, November 15, 10 a.m. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, 'ayes' have it. And the House is adjourned."

Hollman

"House Perfunctory Session will come to order. Introduction and First Reading of House Bills. House Bill 5989, offered by Representative Ford, a Bill for an Act 10000146.docx 84 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 concerning public aid. House Bill 5990, offered by Representative Ford, a Bill for an Act concerning State government. First Reading of these House Bills. Committee Reports. Representative Welch, Chairperson from the Committee on Higher Education, reports the following committee action taken on November 14, 2018: recommends be adopted is House Resolution 1017. Representative Hoffman, Chairperson from the Committee on Labor & Commerce, reports the following committee action taken on November 14, 2018: do pass as amended Short Debate is Senate Bill 203; recommends be adopted is Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 1594. Representative Riley, Chairperson from the Committee on State Government Administration, reports the following committee action taken on November 14, 2018: recommends be adopted is Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 1167, Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 1168. Representative Zalewski, Chairperson from the Committee on Revenue & Finance, reports the following committee action taken on November 14, 2018: recommends be adopted is Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 1192, Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 1193. Representative Conroy, Chairperson from the Committee on Mental Health, reports the following committee action taken on November 14, 2018: do pass as amended Short Debate is Senate Bill 752. Representative Manley, Chairperson from the Committee on Elections & Campaign Finance, reports the following committee action taken on November 14, 2018: recommends be adopted is Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 982. Representative Chapa LaVia, Chairperson from the Committee on Veterans' Affairs, reports the following committee action taken on November 14, 2018: recommends be 10000146.docx 85 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 adopted is House Resolution 1117. Representative Daniel Burke, Chairperson on the Executive, reports the following committee action taken on November 14, 2018: do pass Short Debate is House Bill 5971; do pass as amended Short Debate as House Bill 1226, Senate Bill 1415, Senate Bill 2854, Senate Bill 3127; recommends be adopted is Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 130. Introduction of Resolutions. House Resolution 1285, offered by Representative Stratton, is referred to the Rules Committee. Second Reading of House Bills. House Bill 5971, a Bill for an Act concerning government. This Bill will be held on the Order of Second Reading. Second Reading of Senate Bills. Senate Bill 203, Bill for an Act concerning employment. Senate Bill 752, a Bill for an Act concerning government. Senate Bill 1226, a Bill for an Act concerning State government. Senate Bill 1415, a Bill for an Act concerning local government. Senate Bill 2854, a Bill for an Act concerning elections. Senate Bill 3127, a Bill for an Act concerning finance. Second Reading of these Senate Bills. These will be held on the Order of Second Reading. First Reading of Senate Bills. Senate Bill 21, offered by Representative Currie, a Bill for an Act concerning State government. Senate Bill 279, offered by Representative McCombie, a Bill for an Act concerning State government. Senate Bill 407, offered by Representative Costello, a Bill for an Act concerning government. Senate Bill 580, offered by Representative Welch, a Bill concerning civil law. First Reading of these Senate Bills. Committee Report. Representative Thapedi, Chairperson from the Committee on Public Utilities reports the following committee action taken 10000146.docx 86 STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 146th Legislative Day 11/14/2018 on November 14, 2018: do pass as amended Short Debate is Senate Bill 3051. Second Reading of Senate Bills. Senate Bill 3051, a Bill for an Act concerning regulation. This Bill would be… Second Reading of this Senate Bill. This Bill will be held on the Order of Second Reading. Introduction and First Reading of Senate Bills. Senate Bill 515, offered by Representative D’Amico, a Bill for an Act concerning transportation. First Reading of this Senate Bill. There being no further business, the House Perfunctory Session will stand adjourned." 10000146.docx 87